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1 Sharmuta  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 11:17:34pm

Rest in Peace Senator Kennedy.

2 ArchangelMichael  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 11:18:06pm

I will say it again, because I fear too many will need to heed this advice: "If you can't say anything nice, don't say anything at all."

3 vbspurs  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 11:19:30pm

RIP Senator Kennedy. With deepest condolences to a reduced Kennedy family, now down to one of the original mythical nine.

4 Panhandler  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 11:22:24pm

re: #1 Sharmuta
Great idiocy over at 2 this PM. One of our exes said that you'd been banned, gone,booted, ---. Said he didn't see it personally but had seen it over at GCP, which has been off line for several months. Much chortling and ad hominim remarks for a while until equiibrium returned.
Da Blue One Reigns!

5 ~Fianna  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 11:22:36pm

re: #3 vbspurs

RIP Senator Kennedy. With deepest condolences to a reduced Kennedy family, now down to one of the original mythical nine.

Whatever anyone may personally think about Sen. Kennedy, it's the end of an era.

6 bosforus  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 11:22:40pm

QDEP

7 vbspurs  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 11:22:44pm

It's curious that both Jacqueline Kennedy and now Ted Kennedy, both held on to die during a Democratic Presidency -- Clinton and Obama. Thankfully, Ronald Reagan had the same luck with President Bush.

8 TheMatrix31  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 11:24:20pm

re: #7 vbspurs

It's curious that both Jacqueline Kennedy and now Ted Kennedy, both held on to die during a Democratic Presidency -- Clinton and Obama. Thankfully, Ronald Reagan had the same luck with President Bush.

I miss Ronald Reagan, and I was only born in 1987.

9 vbspurs  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 11:24:55pm

re: #8 TheMatrix31

I miss Ronald Reagan, and I was only born in 1987.

Quite simply, my hero.

10 MittDoesNotCompute  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 11:26:52pm

(Reposted in part from the previous thread)

While I disagreed with Ted Kennedy's politics and think that he'll have to answer to a higher power for Mary Jo Kopechne's death, I tear up every time I hear the eulogy he gave for Bobby, most especially the final part:

My brother need not be idealized, or enlarged in death beyond what he was in life; to be remembered simply as a good and decent man, who saw wrong and tried to right it, saw suffering and tried to heal it, saw war and tried to stop it.

Those of us who loved him and who take him to his rest today, pray that what he was to us and what he wished for others will some day come to pass for all the world.

As he said many times, in many parts of this nation, to those he touched and who sought to touch him:

"Some men see things as they are and say why.
I dream things that never were and say why not."

At this point in time, I think this part of Ted's eulogy to Bobby also applies to Ted himself. Whatever his faults and flaws, love him or hate him, Ted Kennedy's life in public service has been marked by his steadfast attempts to right the wrongs that he saw in American life and politics.

11 Panhandler  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 11:27:33pm

re: #8 TheMatrix31

Hopefully when you have reached my age you'll have added a few to the lexicon that I will never see. Our republic is consistant, we seem to have good ones arriveing in trying times.

12 TheMatrix31  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 11:29:35pm

re: #11 Panhandler

Hopefully when you have reached my age you'll have added a few to the lexicon that I will never see. Our republic is consistant, we seem to have good ones arriveing in trying times.

Hopefully we see one sooner rather than later.

13 vbspurs  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 11:29:57pm

re: #10 talon_262

At this point in time, I think this part of Ted's eulogy to Bobby also applies to Ted himself.

Ted Kennedy sure knew how to give an eulogy -- often pressed into that saddest of services, as he was. His words about his nephew, John Jr, "we dared to think that this John Kennedy would live to comb gray hair" will live in my mind forever.

14 lostlakehiker  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 11:30:49pm

The news coverage is being fair. They mention some of the things that have to be brought up in any balanced summary of the man's life.

I'll give him this; he actually believed in what he was working for, and he worked at it.

15 vbspurs  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 11:33:19pm

re: #14 lostlakehiker

I'll give him this; he actually believed in what he was working for, and he worked at it.

He wasn't a rabble-rouser, nor did he necessarily pit the classes against each other, to try to bring about his vision of America...he simply believed in a different course of action than most of us in LGF (it's safe to say), and was willing to fight for it.

16 [deleted]  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 11:34:10pm
17 vbspurs  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 11:35:09pm

re: #16 pat

With all due respect, I think you've said quite enough.

18 ArchangelMichael  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 11:36:04pm

Ok we have one ignore on post 2.

Do I hear 2...

19 Cygnus  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 11:36:44pm

re: #16 pat

Read post #2. 'Nuff said.

20 Sharmuta  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 11:37:59pm

The Kennedy family had more than their fair share of tragedies, and Edward was there for almost all of them. It takes a lot of heart to bear that much grief- a lot of inner strength. If there is nothing else admirable about the man for some people, perhaps they can reflect on that and find something of this icon to respect.

I hope he is Forgiven, and reunited with his family. May they all be at Peace.

21 eddiespaghetti  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 11:38:30pm

Again, RIP Ted, it is a sad ending to be struck with this disease. I am struck with the quickness of this disease and and how little can be done when diagnosed.

I dearly hope his funeral doesn't turn into a Wellstone episode. Trying not to be cynical, but there is a data point to be sure. Standing by...

22 SpaceJesus  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 11:38:34pm

the comments at foxnews about kennedy passing away make me want to wield sarah palin like a sledgehammer and beat every republican over the head with her.

23 Sharmuta  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 11:38:55pm

Hey, Spurs. Good to see you.

24 vbspurs  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 11:39:16pm

re: #23 Sharmuta

Sharmuta, a pleasure as ever! Hope you are well.

25 Sharmuta  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 11:39:20pm

re: #22 spacejesus

Hang on! Cato will help you!

26 JerusalemAsher  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 11:40:05pm

Speaking of Emo Phillips quotes:
I was pulled over in Massachusetts for reckless driving. When brought before the judge, I was asked if I knew what the punishment for drunk driving in that state was. I said, "I don't know... reelection to the Senate?"

27 Dancing along the light of day  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 11:41:01pm

re: #2 ArchangelMichael

I will say it again, because I fear too many will need to heed this advice: "If you can't say anything nice, don't say anything at all."

This is worth repeating.

28 Racer X  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 11:41:23pm

re: #22 spacejesus

the comments at foxnews about kennedy passing away make me want to wield sarah palin like a sledgehammer and beat every republican over the head with her.

Go look at Huffpo or KOS the day Tony Snow passed. There is stupid on the left and on the right.

29 Sharmuta  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 11:41:38pm

re: #27 Floral Giraffe

We should do it every 20 posts or so, maybe.

30 ArchangelMichael  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 11:41:42pm

Since I think we've had enough Latin for one evening, I'll throw a severely mangled curve-ball with this attempt:

Ted Kennedy, þeah Ic geþwærlæcde naht eow, rest inn frið.

/Hopefully any Old English scholars will cut me some slack.

31 MrPaulRevere  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 11:42:23pm

Best wishes to the Kennedy family. Some things do (or should) transcend politics.

32 Sharmuta  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 11:42:37pm

re: #24 vbspurs

I'm well- hope you start coming around more often!

33 ArchangelMichael  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 11:42:55pm

re: #28 Racer X

Go look at Huffpo or KOS the day Tony Snow passed. There is stupid on the left and on the right.

Yeah but there is supposed to be a different between adults and spoiled rotten children in the middle of an 8 year long temper tantrum.

34 MittDoesNotCompute  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 11:43:15pm

re: #8 TheMatrix31

I miss Ronald Reagan, and I was only born in 1987.

I was 11 when Challenger exploded...my first real memories of Reagan that I have and the stuff he was made of is his tribute to the astronauts that night from the Oval Office (his speech written by Peggy Noonan and quoting the poem High Flight):

"The crew of the space shuttle Challenger honored us by the manner in which they lived their lives. We will never forget them, nor the last time we saw them, this morning, as they prepared for their journey and waved goodbye and ``slipped the surly bonds of earth'' to ``touch the face of God.''"

35 vbspurs  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 11:43:19pm

re: #32 Sharmuta

I'm well- hope you start coming around more often!

Thanks! I've been meaning to, but funny thing is, as I grow older my time is no longer my own. I'll definitely try though. :)

36 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 11:45:27pm

re: #1 Sharmuta

Rest in Peace Senator Kennedy.

Wait, what?!?

37 BatGuano  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 11:46:05pm

re: #22 spacejesus

Nothing like violence to get your irrational feelings out of your system. Did you hear the kind words about Ted Kennedy from Nancy Reagan on Fox?

38 freetoken  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 11:46:30pm

re: #36 Slumbering Behemoth

Wait, what?!?

The 20th century is passing away.

39 vbspurs  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 11:46:30pm

re: #33 ArchangelMichael

Yeah but there is supposed to be a different between adults and spoiled rotten children in the middle of an 8 year long temper tantrum.

Case in point, the first comment left in The Times (UK) article on his passing:

"We love you Teddy. The Last Lion will never be forgotten!
All you baggers, birthers and bigots: We are ready for your fight!
In honor of Teddy, we willl work harder than ever!"

Sigh...

40 MittDoesNotCompute  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 11:46:34pm

re: #16 pat

Frankly, I always thought of Ted Kennedy as a dimwit. A cheater in college, as well in life. A philanderer, a coward, a cheat and a fool. He was a tool of the left because he could not think for himself. He was a philanderer because he married a woman smarter and more mature. I welcome his passage. I could say more, but it would be unbecoming.

Why did you have to be an asshole and drop a turd in this particular punchbowl? You can at least wait until he's in the ground before you unload both barrels on Ted Kennedy's legacy...

41 MittDoesNotCompute  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 11:47:07pm

re: #39 vbspurs

Case in point, the first comment left in The Times (UK) article on his passing:

"We love you Teddy. The Last Lion will never be forgotten!
All you baggers, birthers and bigots: We are ready for your fight!
In honor of Teddy, we willl work harder than ever!"

Sigh...

Oy vey...

42 [deleted]  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 11:47:34pm
43 [deleted]  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 11:47:48pm
44 Sharmuta  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 11:48:23pm

Kennedy death puts family dynasty in doubt

Senator Edward Kennedy's death marks the twilight of one of America's most fabled political families, with no heirs to the Kennedy name poised to emerge with the same mix of gravitas, ambition and celebrity.

Kennedy, 77, one of the most effective lawmakers in U.S. history and the brother of assassinated President John F. Kennedy, died late on Tuesday after battling brain cancer.

He died just weeks after his sister, Eunice Kennedy Shriver, who founded the Special Olympics and was a leading advocate for the mentally disabled.

"There seems to be no one there to pick up the torch," said Thomas Whalen, a professor of politics at Boston University.

Really- it's the end of an American Era.

45 vbspurs  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 11:48:31pm

re: #41 talon_262

Oy vey...

You know, Archangel Michael's injunction is not just for conservatives. It's for all people. It's just that some need remindin'.

46 TheMatrix31  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 11:49:55pm

Palin's FB on the passing of Kennedy

I would like to extend our sympathies to the Kennedy family as we hear word about the passing of Senator Ted Kennedy. He believed in our country and fought passionately for his convictions.

-Sarah Palin and family

47 vbspurs  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 11:50:32pm

Sarah is on the ball! Mind you, it's early yet in Alaska.

48 [deleted]  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 11:50:57pm
49 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 11:51:03pm

re: #38 freetoken

Obviously, I don't watch much television. This is news to me.

re: #2 ArchangelMichael

I will say it again, because I fear too many will need to heed this advice: "If you can't say anything nice, don't say anything at all."

My mouth will stay firmly shut. RIP.

50 Racer X  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 11:51:27pm
51 BatGuano  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 11:51:46pm

From the previous thread:

n 1979, my wife was 9 years old and her mother took her to San Francisco Air Port to meet Ted Kennedy when he was running against Jimmy Carter for the Democratic nomination.My (eventual) wife and her friend were standing behind a low wall. Two guys, in order to attract Ted's attention, lifted them up on the wall as Kennedy passed by.Ted Kennedy stopped and kissed both on the forehead. My wifes dad was a republican and stayed home.

52 Sharmuta  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 11:53:06pm

Pat- while you're entitled to your opinion, I must say, I don't think our host would approve of you expressing it here. Please- think of your host if nothing else.

53 SpaceJesus  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 11:54:15pm

re: #28 Racer X

Go look at Huffpo or KOS the day Tony Snow passed. There is stupid on the left and on the right.

oh ok that makes it ok then

54 vbspurs  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 11:54:29pm

re: #48 pat

Pat I will venture to remind you of Ben Bradlee's famous words at the passing of Richard Nixon (RICHARD NIXON):

"Everyone at the moment of their death, deserves a break from criticism"

55 BatGuano  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 11:54:40pm

re: #48 pat

I respect you Pat, but this can wait.

56 bosforus  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 11:54:40pm

re: #48 pat

These are all things that have been said before. I see no reason in saying them now.

57 Dancing along the light of day  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 11:55:06pm

I think Killgore was right in the last thread, when he said Stinky's going to be busy in the morning.

Stay classy, folks.

58 haakondahl  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 11:55:45pm

...

59 ArchangelMichael  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 11:55:51pm

re: #49 Slumbering Behemoth

Obviously, I don't watch much television. This is news to me.

re: #2 ArchangelMichael

My mouth will stay firmly shut. RIP.

Oh I have a whole litany of things to say, no doubt. I'm just waiting until a more appropriate time and that time is definitely not now.

60 ArchangelMichael  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 11:57:13pm

re: #58 haakondahl

I've had posts like that show up when I didn't click on anything but my browser went all screwy. Is that what happened to you?

61 haakondahl  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 11:58:04pm

...

62 Sharmuta  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 11:58:22pm

re: #54 vbspurs

Pat I will venture to remind you of Ben Bradlee's famous words at the passing of Richard Nixon (RICHARD NIXON):

"Everyone at the moment of their death, deserves a break from criticism"

And Charles has made it quite clear in the past he doesn't want LGF to look like a right-wing Kos or Huffpo. If you can't respect the dead, than at least respect your host.

63 Sharmuta  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 11:58:57pm

re: #58 haakondahl

re: #61 haakondahl

Is this your way of saying something nice or nothing at all?

64 BatGuano  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 11:59:10pm

re: #61 haakondahl

Haakendahl, what is it! :)

65 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 11:59:14pm

re: #54 vbspurs

"Everyone at the moment of their death, deserves a break from criticism"

Word. I don't have much nice to say about the man, so I kept my damn mouth shut on the thread here about him being diagnosed with cancer, and I will keep my damn mouth shut now, opening it only to say that I offer my condolences to his family.

66 Syrah  Tue, Aug 25, 2009 11:59:37pm

I think that we should all keep in mind that Ted thought he was working to make this a better world.

We can easily grant to the man his sincerity in his intent.

67 laZardo  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:00:03am

re: #54 vbspurs

Except for terrorists. Fuck them.

/Rest In Peace, Ted Kennedy.

//also, good afternoon

68 TheMatrix31  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:00:15am

re: #65 Slumbering Behemoth

Word. I don't have much nice to say about the man, so I kept my damn mouth shut on the thread here about him being diagnosed with cancer, and I will keep my damn mouth shut now, opening it only to say that I offer my condolences to his family.

Yep.

69 Sharmuta  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:00:34am

re: #2 ArchangelMichael

I will say it again, because I fear too many will need to heed this advice: "If you can't say anything nice, don't say anything at all."

70 vbspurs  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:00:49am

re: #62 Sharmuta

LGF to look like a right-wing Kos or Huffpo.

Thankfully, there is no danger of that. Opinionated, yes. But never confusing insults with argumentation.

71 SteveC  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:00:58am

How many jokes have been told about Senator Kennedy's close personal relationship with alcohol? More than I can count - and I've added a few to the total number myself.

But when you consider that the man has lost almost his entire family, some of them very violently, and has borne much more than his fair share of grief, it's not surprising that he drank.

I hope your friends and family were with you at the end... and that they still are.

72 vbspurs  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:02:11am

re: #67 laZardo

Except for terrorists.

I think there's an Adolf Hitler/Saddam Hussein Corollary somewhere.

73 Sharmuta  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:02:26am
74 laZardo  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:02:40am

re: #72 vbspurs

I think there's an Adolf Hitler/Saddam Hussein/Osama Bin Laden Corollary somewhere.

FTFY.

75 vbspurs  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:03:34am

re: #73 Sharmuta

Gotta love the bushy eyebrows (pun intended). ;)

76 BatGuano  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:04:22am

I remember when John Kennedy was assassinated. I remember when Robert Kennedy was assassinated. It is not easier because Ted Kennedy died of cancer.

77 Gus  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:04:42am

Some of us grow, expand our ideas, and find that our own idealism crosses paths with those we see as our political opponents. As a young teen when I supported Richard Nixon in junior high school to voting for Ted Kennedy during the Democratic presidential primary up until now 30 years later whereupon I find myself seeing the greater subtlety of American society and man.

RIP Senator Ted Kennedy

78 Sharmuta  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:04:57am

re: #71 SteveC

How many jokes have been told about Senator Kennedy's close personal relationship with alcohol? More than I can count - and I've added a few to the total number myself.

But when you consider that the man has lost almost his entire family, some of them very violently, and has borne much more than his fair share of grief, it's not surprising that he drank.

I hope your friends and family were with you at the end... and that they still are.

Uh- yeah. I've known others, and the burden of grief certainly can lead to substance abuse. He could have given in completely, but fought that too. For all my other issues with the man, his inner strength is what stands out for me tonight. That kind of grief isn't an easy cross to bear, but he did and better than most would have in his shoes.

79 eddiespaghetti  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:06:12am

re: #73 Sharmuta

Prolly for 'No Child'. Politics make strange bed fellows, I believe they say...

80 vbspurs  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:07:39am

re: #78 Sharmuta

That kind of grief isn't an easy cross to bear, but he did and better than most would have in his shoes.

For those of us who are Catholic, it's comforting to know that the Kennedys had the strongest of faiths, and if nothing else, they've left a wonderful legacy of overcoming tragedy in great part because of it (especially the late Rose Kennedy, who was the best of that bunch).

81 MrPaulRevere  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:07:58am

re: #66 Syrah

You are a real wordsmith; that's beautiful sentiment beautifully expressed.

82 vbspurs  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:11:33am

I may be back later in the day. Wishing Sharmuta and all my fellow Lizards, a very good night!

83 sngnsgt  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:12:10am

re: #73 Sharmuta

Nice pic, thanks.

84 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:13:07am

re: #66 Syrah

I think that we should all keep in mind that Ted thought he was working to make this a better world.

We can easily grant to the man his sincerity in his intent.

And his hard work, and years of service, too.

85 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:13:32am

On another note: Wobble iPhone App.

"Wobble is the first application to enable a user to move a woman's breasts without actually touching them".

Understanding the concept? EPIC FAIL!

86 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:13:59am

I flipped o ESPN to check some scores when I woke up and even they had the news on the crawl on the bottom of Senator Kennedy's death.

87 Soona'  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:14:54am

After reading many of the posts here, I think I'm going to take a shower and wash off all of the sticky artificial sweetning. G'nite all.

88 BatGuano  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:15:20am

re: #84 Floral Giraffe

Hi Floral. I agree.

89 laZardo  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:16:47am

I suspect this is going to be a particularly short Overnight Open Thread. >__>re: #87 Soona'

After reading many of the posts here, I think I'm going to take a shower and wash off all of the sticky artificial sweetning. G'nite all.

Happy Hump Day to you too!

/ braces

90 laZardo  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:17:08am

re: #89 laZardo

/reminds himself to clear out text body field next time

91 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:18:07am

re: #87 Soona'

Pay particular attention to washing your vagina, it would seem you have some sand in it.

92 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:18:37am

Has anyone lurked over to the Freepers for a peek at any comments?

93 Gus  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:18:58am

re: #92 Cannadian Club Akbar

Has anyone lurked over to the Freepers for a peek at any comments?

Stop reading my mind.

//

94 TheMatrix31  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:19:10am

re: #87 Soona'

After reading many of the posts here, I think I'm going to take a shower and wash off all of the sticky artificial sweetning. G'nite all.

I'm a perv. That's all.

95 BatGuano  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:19:30am

re: #91 Slumbering Behemoth

Don't you think that was rather crude? I was composing something more diplomatic.

96 freetoken  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:19:39am

Changing tenor...

I've signed up for a web-page intro class... if anything, it will finally put me on a schedule to actually make a web page. I've started a few times over the years, but without externally driven deadlines somehow it always got on the back burner.

Questions: Anyone out there use Yola? How about Wordpress?

97 BatGuano  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:22:02am

re: #94 TheMatrix31

You're 21 it's expected. On the other hand I'm not 21 and I have no excuse.

98 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:22:45am

re: #95 BatGuano

Don't you think that was rather crude?

Guilty as charged. At the very least, you won't see me using the ultra-lame "It was satire/sarcasm" excuse.

I was composing something more diplomatic.

By all means, don't let me stop you.

99 ~Fianna  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:23:13am

re: #96 freetoken

Changing tenor...

I've signed up for a web-page intro class... if anything, it will finally put me on a schedule to actually make a web page. I've started a few times over the years, but without externally driven deadlines somehow it always got on the back burner.

Questions: Anyone out there use Yola? How about Wordpress?

Wordpress has a lot of security issues. I've never heard of Yola.

What are you looking to do? Just a simple blog or something more feature-rich?

I've been working with Drupal in between working on the Java app from hell for work... It's probably more complicated than what you're looking for but it's a lot of fun to play with.

Joomla! has gotten some good reviews, and seems like a good compromise between learning-curve friendly and robust.

100 BatGuano  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:23:56am

re: #98 Slumbering Behemoth

Naw, You said it all. :)

101 ArchangelMichael  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:24:59am

re: #92 Cannadian Club Akbar

Has anyone lurked over to the Freepers for a peek at any comments?

No not those maniacs, but surprisingly the douches are being rather civil with a couple of exceptions.

102 TheMatrix31  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:25:03am

re: #97 BatGuano

You're 21 it's expected. On the other hand I'm not 21 and I have no excuse.

LOL.

103 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:25:26am

The only Twitter page worth following...

* Name: Justin
* Bio: I'm 28. I live with my 73-year-old dad. He is awesome. I just write down shit that he says

Shit My Dad Says

104 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:26:41am

It's time for me to go.
STAY CLASSY, Lizards.

105 BatGuano  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:27:48am

re: #104 Floral Giraffe

BY flowery thingy...next time.

106 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:28:21am

re: #103 Slumbering Behemoth

That is good stuff. Me gonna print that out.

107 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:30:53am

re: #106 Cannadian Club Akbar

My two favorites so far:

"The dog is an outside dog. You want an inside dog, you go get your own inside."

"The dog is not bored, it's a fucking dog. It's not like he's waiting for me to give him a fucking rubix cube. He's a god damned dog."

108 ~Fianna  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:32:03am

re: #107 Slumbering Behemoth

My two favorites so far:

I fear to think what the Tora dog would do with a rubix cube.

109 TheMatrix31  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:32:10am

Ugh...some asshole on the message board I help moderate made a "We Lost An American Hero" thread for Kennedy THIRTY SEVEN fucking times.

UGH. Time to clean this up.

110 freetoken  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:32:48am

re: #99 ~Fianna

Yola used to be known as Synthia-something or other. It's an easy to use web page authoring tool online (and hosting service if you want to pay.) However, iWeb is just as easy and may be more powerful.

I'm looking at making a general purpose website (with associated blog). Not too feature rich. Really don't want to get down into the weeds with Javascript, etc.

111 ArchangelMichael  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:33:15am

re: #109 TheMatrix31

Ugh...some asshole on the message board I help moderate made a "We Lost An American Hero" thread for Kennedy THIRTY SEVEN fucking times.

UGH. Time to clean this up.

"Thirty Seven! In a row?"

112 Sharmuta  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:33:38am

re: #103 Slumbering Behemoth

The only Twitter page worth following...

* Name: Justin
* Bio: I'm 28. I live with my 73-year-old dad. He is awesome. I just write down shit that he says

Shit My Dad Says

LMAO!

Why would i want to check a voicemail on my cell phone? People want to talk to me, call again. If i want to talk to you, I'll answer.

I love this man.

113 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:34:23am

re: #107 Slumbering Behemoth

"I didn't live to be 73 years old so I could eat kale. Don't fix me your breakfast and pretend you're fixing mine."

It's watering plants, Justin. You just take a God damned hose and you put it over the plant. You don't even pay rent, just do it. Shit."

114 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:34:29am

re: #109 TheMatrix31

That's spamming the board, and it should be a ban-able offense. Consult your fellow moderators.

115 TheMatrix31  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:34:37am

re: #111 ArchangelMichael

"Thirty Seven! In a row?"

Where's that quote from? lol

116 BatGuano  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:34:58am

My dad used to say to me, " you couldn't pour water out of a boot if the directions were on the heel."

117 Sharmuta  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:35:06am
"I didn't live to be 73 years old so I could eat kale. Don't fix me your breakfast and pretend you're fixing mine."

LMAO!

118 freetoken  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:35:59am

BTW, one of the clear problems with the Web is that there are more sites/blogs than there are people who want to read them. One thing this class I am taking aims to teach me is how to get noticed. (The guy teaching it claims he has had good success in this manner... to the point of making a six-figure income out of it the past couple of years.)

Of course, we all know the tried and true way of getting hits to our web pages - pimp them on the LGF spinoffs!

119 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:36:08am

re: #116 BatGuano

My dad used to say to me, " you couldn't pour water out of a boot if the directions were on the heel."

Funny, I couldn't hit water if I fell out of a boat.

120 TheMatrix31  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:36:48am

re: #114 Slumbering Behemoth

That's spamming the board, and it should be a ban-able offense. Consult your fellow moderators.

Oh, we already banned him. Just gotta clean up the mess. Delete threads and whatnot.

121 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:37:21am

re: #113 Cannadian Club Akbar

"I didn't live to be 73 years old so I could eat kale. Don't fix me your breakfast and pretend you're fixing mine."

Oh, that is my new favorite.

122 BatGuano  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:37:35am

re: #119 Cannadian Club Akbar

Are we related?

123 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:37:42am

I'd like to get Justin's dad and Yogi Berra together for drinks and just sit and record it.

124 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:39:19am

re: #122 BatGuano

Are we related?

Maybe. Your first name is Bat, mine was little.

125 ArchangelMichael  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:40:19am

re: #115 TheMatrix31

Where's that quote from? lol

You asked for it... Seriously NSFW...

126 yochanan  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:40:34am

re: #119 Cannadian Club Akbar

mine always said i would lose my head if it wasn't attached.

127 Sharmuta  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:41:40am

I might sign up for twitter now just for shitmydadsays.

128 Sharmuta  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:42:29am

"How the fuck should I know if it's still good? Eat it. You get sick, it wasn't good. You people, you think I got microscopic fucking eyes."

That's classic.

129 yochanan  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:42:48am

re: #125 ArchangelMichael

the next question did she spit or swallow/?

///

130 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:42:48am

re: #126 yochanan

mine always said i would lose my head if it wasn't attached.

When I did something stoopid, my dad would blame my mom's side of the family. (mom's side Polish, dad's side German)

131 eddiespaghetti  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:43:05am

re: #125 ArchangelMichael

Who is working right now anyway.

132 BatGuano  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:43:28am

re: #128 Sharmuta

Stop! I'm trying to stop laughing!

133 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:44:24am

re: #131 eddiespaghetti

Who is working right now anyway.

I think the question should be, "even if someone is working right now, are they actually working?"

134 yochanan  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:44:37am

re: #119 Cannadian Club Akbar

and mine said the same sort of thing you mean i got cousins?

135 ArchangelMichael  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:44:39am

re: #129 yochanan

the next question did she spit or swallow/?

///

Spit... that's what they talked about right before the clip began and why shes says "How do you think I knew that he..." before he cuts her off.

136 laZardo  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:44:41am
"They serve Jim Beam on airplanes. Tastes like piss. You wouldn't be able to tell the difference, because you drink shit. I don't."

8D

137 TheMatrix31  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:45:17am

re: #125 ArchangelMichael

You asked for it... Seriously NSFW...


LMFAO. I really need to watch that movie. Can't believe I've never seen it.

138 BatGuano  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:45:46am

My dad: When you were little, we thought you were a genius.What happened?

139 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:46:19am

This one, this beer, is for Justin, his pop, and his poor mother Joni (and the antics she must put up with).

Cheers!

140 ArchangelMichael  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:46:29am

re: #131 eddiespaghetti

Who is working right now anyway.

10 years ago I'd be working at this time. But that job consisted of walking around a data center once an hour and making sure nothing had an error msg on it's monitor. Then the other 45 minutes each hour involved me trying to find ways to stay awake.

141 yochanan  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:47:25am

re: #130 Cannadian Club Akbar

mine would blame his mothers side of the family as she was the only real american in the family as my mothers parents came from scotland and his father came from londonderry

142 ~Fianna  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:47:40am

re: #110 freetoken

Yola used to be known as Synthia-something or other. It's an easy to use web page authoring tool online (and hosting service if you want to pay.) However, iWeb is just as easy and may be more powerful.

I'm looking at making a general purpose website (with associated blog). Not too feature rich. Really don't want to get down into the weeds with Javascript, etc.

*nod* Wordpress or something similar is probably what you're looking for, then. There are a lot of cool plug-ins for WP. I was looking at it for one of the projects I'm working on, but since there's an e-commerce aspect to it, I was concerned about some of the security issues.

143 laZardo  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:48:12am

re: #138 BatGuano

A couple days ago they had the "Momsicles" on Pearls Before Swine. Ah, sweet regret. q;

144 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:48:20am

re: #134 yochanan

and mine said the same sort of thing you mean i got cousins?

True story...Years ago I was IM'd by someone. I had a cousin with her name, she had one with mine. I had an uncle with her dad's name and vise versa. Turned out to be just coincidence. Weird.

145 Soona'  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:49:32am

re: #123 Cannadian Club Akbar

I'd like to get Justin's dad and Yogi Berra together for drinks and just sit and record it.

It would be a one-sided conversation.

146 ~Fianna  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:50:05am

re: #140 ArchangelMichael

10 years ago I'd be working at this time. But that job consisted of walking around a data center once an hour and making sure nothing had an error msg on it's monitor. Then the other 45 minutes each hour involved me trying to find ways to stay awake.

What'd you do if there was an error message?

147 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:51:00am

re: #146 ~Fianna

What'd you do if there was an error message?

He'd call someone to fix it:)

148 TheMatrix31  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:51:59am

That "shitmydadsays" Twitter reminds me of the episode of Seinfeld where Jerry takes care of that old man...

"Hi, I'm from the agency."
"What agency, the CIA?!"

149 yochanan  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:52:00am

re: #144 Cannadian Club Akbar

well i once met someone on line in a jewish chat room who's grand father came from the same small town in scotland and had the same last name as my grand father, every one in that town with that last name were related. turns out her grand father and mine were brothers.

150 eddiespaghetti  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:52:08am

re: #140 ArchangelMichael

Then there is the whole time zone thing. I know some peeps are workin right now, and god bless them.

151 ArchangelMichael  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:52:20am

re: #146 ~Fianna

What'd you do if there was an error message?

Fix it, or call an engineer to come in and work on it if it wasn't something I could fix in 10 minutes or less.

152 ~Fianna  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:52:44am

re: #147 Cannadian Club Akbar

He'd call someone to fix it:)

That's another 5 minutes of staying awake, anyway. :)

Speaking of... it's about time for me to stop trying. Night Lizardia! Thanks for another day of pleasant distraction.

153 Sharmuta  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:53:43am

"You need to flush the toilet more than once...No, YOU, YOU specifically need to. You know what, use a different toilet. This is my toilet."

154 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:54:04am

re: #149 yochanan

That's cool right there. Disney was right, it is a small, small world.
(please, no one post that song)

155 ArchangelMichael  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:55:43am

re: #147 Cannadian Club Akbar

He'd call someone to fix it:)

If the place wasn't run into the ground and scuttled during the dot-com crash, I might still be there and I'd be the person being called when something was broken.

Now I'm that guy somewhere else.

156 freetoken  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:56:43am

re: #142 ~Fianna

Thanks. In the class we will be exploring a variety of tools... to find one that works for each one of us.

157 yochanan  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:56:59am

re: #154 Cannadian Club Akbar

we had always though that brother had gone to new zealand when my grand father went to canada and then chicago, turns out he went to australia were this person i met on line lived. very small world indeed

158 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:58:05am

re: #154 Cannadian Club Akbar

That's cool right there. Disney was right, it is a small, small world.
(please, no one post that song)

Too late.

159 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:58:11am

re: #155 ArchangelMichael

If the place wasn't run into the ground and scuttled during the dot-com crash, I might still be there and I'd be the person being called when something was broken.

Now I'm that guy somewhere else.

I used to date a hot girl and somewhere there was a single guy out there not dating her. Now, he has my job and I have his.

160 yochanan  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 12:58:18am

going back to the sack

161 Soona'  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:00:42am

re: #159 Cannadian Club Akbar

I used to date a hot girl and somewhere there was a single guy out there not dating her. Now, he has my job and I have his.

Okay. I'll bite. What happened to the hot girl?

162 BatGuano  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:00:51am

re: #158 Slumbering Behemoth

We've been Rick Rolled.

163 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:01:50am

re: #161 Soona'

Okay. I'll bite. What happened to the hot girl?

She married him, but now they are getting divorced because she found another guy to do his job:)

164 Soona'  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:03:10am

re: #163 Cannadian Club Akbar

She married him, but now they are getting divorced because she found another guy to do his job:)

Now that's karma! :)

165 TheMatrix31  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:06:01am
166 BatGuano  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:06:08am

Has littleoldlady been around recently?

167 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:06:36am

re: #164 Soona'

Now that's karma! :)

AND, our mutual friends at the time pinned the break up on me. It was sweet, sweet, exoneration.

168 Edouard  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:07:18am

Re Kennedy: Getting past, for the time being, my disagreements with him about politics, and getting past his deplorable episode in 1969:

He died of brain cancer, a dreadful way to go. But to peer into the inscrutible dark of imminent death, to be on the knife-edge of it, is potentially a profound thing, perhaps even life's deepest moment.

Now he has stepped beyond that knife-edge and passed on, and the rest of us have not seen it, not yet -- but perhaps we feel something of the depth of it. I think about GM Hopkins's sestet from his poem "No Worst, There Is None":

O the mind, mind has mountains; cliffs of fall
Frightful, sheer, no-man-fathomed. Hold them cheap
May who ne’er hung there. Nor does long our small
Durance deal with that steep or deep. Here! creep,
Wretch, under a comfort serves in a whirlwind: all
Life death does end and each day dies with sleep.

I wish for every woman and man, no matter who they are, a spiritually vast moment shortly before passing. Whether it is an epiphany of some kind or simply a relief, the depth of the moment can only be known by the person who is there experiencing it, the rest of us remain poor spectators. However much I deplored what he did or said in life, no doubt Kennedy was a lion of a man and I hope his last moment was vast and transformative for his soul.

169 ArchangelMichael  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:07:26am

re: #163 Cannadian Club Akbar

She married him, but now they are getting divorced because she found another guy to do his job:)

That same thing almost exactly happened to me too. I don't know that I'd say she was all that hot though. They didn't get divorced, just separated.

170 freetoken  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:08:39am

There have been some noticeable departures here lately... some have been voiced, others have gone quietly into the dark.

This song has been rolling around in my head all evening... here presented in the classic (and still the best) form:

171 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:09:46am

re: #169 ArchangelMichael

I haven't had alot of girlfriends, but when I do my friends call me a "fucking liar" because they don't think I can get a hottie. I date outside my numbers. Heh.

172 BatGuano  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:10:00am

re: #170 freetoken

Dylan was about 19 at the time.

173 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:10:43am

re: #166 BatGuano

Has littleoldlady been around recently?

Not that I've seen. I be worried. Any one got some info?

174 Soona'  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:11:54am

re: #169 ArchangelMichael

That same thing almost exactly happened to me too. I don't know that I'd say she was all that hot though. They didn't get divorced, just separated.

The really bad thing about seperation is that sometimes they come back. {shiver}

175 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:13:11am

re: #173 Slumbering Behemoth

Not that I've seen. I be worried. Any one got some info?

Talk to Sharm. I think she stays in touch with LoL. I think LoL was just taking some time off. Damn Fruit Cup Unionstm.

176 laZardo  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:13:41am

re: #175 Cannadian Club Akbar

Well, the fruitcup providers do have rights and it would be unfair to exploit them.

/ q:

177 Soona'  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:13:56am

re: #173 Slumbering Behemoth

Not that I've seen. I be worried. Any one got some info?

She didn't show up this last weekend either.

178 BatGuano  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:13:57am

re: #173 Slumbering Behemoth

sharmuta?

179 Sharmuta  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:16:05am

re: #178 BatGuano

All I know is she said she was taking a break.

180 Sharmuta  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:17:00am

littleoldlady assured me her and her family were otherwise fine.

181 BatGuano  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:17:29am

re: #179 Sharmuta

Thanks, Sharm. As long as it was planned.

182 BatGuano  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:18:14am

re: #180 Sharmuta

Again, thank you.

183 Soona'  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:18:23am

re: #180 Sharmuta

littleoldlady assured me her and her family were otherwise fine.

Good to hear. I was a little worried too.

184 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:18:44am

re: #179 Sharmuta

All I know is she said she was taking a break.

When my dad retired, he would go to the Moose Lodge 6 nights a week and have a couple beers. He didn't go one night and they called him to make sure everything was OK. I told him if he wasn't going to the Moose he needed to call in sick.

185 BatGuano  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:21:10am

Any news on gmsc? I really don't mean to pry, just concerned.

186 Sharmuta  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:22:20am

re: #170 freetoken

Yes- some melt down or flounce, others just fade away.

I wonder where Cattt is. And others. But sometimes folks just have something come up and they can't be here anymore, or maybe LGF isn't fun for them anymore. Who can say?

I've seen people come and go here, and it's not always easy.

187 BatGuano  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:25:39am

re: #186 Sharmuta

Tell me about it. In the short time I have been here I have seen too many disappear.

188 wahabicorridor  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:26:56am

re: #173 Slumbering Behemoth

Not that I've seen. I be worried. Any one got some info?

She's fine. She's taking a break to attend to some other things.

189 BatGuano  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:26:59am

re: #186 Sharmuta

Thanks for finding that.

190 Sharmuta  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:27:03am

For Cattt- where ever she may be. Love ya, Sister!

191 CapeCoddah  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:30:08am

Good Morning everyone... Missed you all, working my tail off, but heard the news on the radio when I woke up a few minutes ago and had to check in. For me, this is personal and I have really mixed feelings. I knew Sen. Kennedy personally. Liked him a lot as a neighbor growing up for many years, had a lot of issues with him as an elected official, but that is not for today. My deepest condolences to his family and friends. He was a kind man to meet on the street.

192 BatGuano  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:31:43am

re: #190 Sharmuta

Brings back memories.

193 Sharmuta  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:32:17am

re: #192 BatGuano

Brings back memories.

How about this one?

194 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:33:07am

re: #179 Sharmuta

re: #188 wahabicorridor

I get a bit of "headline burnout" from time to time, and need to take a break as well. As long as {LoL} is ok, I am happy.

195 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:33:14am

re: #193 Sharmuta

How about this one?



I love that song.

196 eddiespaghetti  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:36:12am

re: #193 Sharmuta

Memories, not nightmares.

197 BatGuano  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:36:39am

re: #193 Sharmuta

Yes, indeed.

198 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:37:33am

re: #185 BatGuano

re: #186 Sharmuta

Now y'all are making me bummed.

199 wahabicorridor  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:38:13am

re: #194 Slumbering Behemoth

re: #188 wahabicorridor

I get a bit of "headline burnout" from time to time, and need to take a break as well. As long as {LoL} is ok, I am happy.


She's fine and you take care of your good self, hear?

200 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:38:57am

An older, white haired man walked into a jewelry store one Friday evening with a beautiful young gal at his side.


He told the jeweler he was looking for a special ring for his girlfriend.The jeweler looked through his stock and brought out a $5,000 ring and showed it to him.


The old man said, "I don't think you understand, I want something very special.


"At that statement, the jeweler went to his special stock and brought another ring over. "Here's a stunning ring at only $40,000", the jeweler said.The young lady's eyes sparkled and her whole body trembled with excitement.


The old man seeing this said, "We'll take it."The jeweler asked how payment would be made and the old man stated, by check.


"I know you need to make sure my check is good, so I'll write it now and you can call the bank Monday to verify the funds and I'll pick the ring up Monday afternoon," he said.


Monday morning, a very teed-off jeweler phoned the old man.


"There's no money in that account."


"I know", said the old man, "but let me tell you about my weekend!"

201 ArchangelMichael  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:39:47am

re: #193 Sharmuta

How about this one?

Ah the 80s...

202 BatGuano  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:40:33am

re: #198 Slumbering Behemoth

Yes! A Monty Python reference has been missing.

203 laZardo  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:41:37am

...

204 BatGuano  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:42:03am

re: #198 Slumbering Behemoth

"Life's a piece of shit when you look at it."

205 laZardo  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:42:39am

re: #203 laZardo

Hmm. Thing didn't show right...

206 Sharmuta  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:42:52am

re: #201 ArchangelMichael

Ah the 80s...

You know it, Baybee

207 laZardo  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:45:15am

re: #206 Sharmuta

re: #201 ArchangelMichael

From the "related list," probably early 90s but it was hard to believe that this was...well...

208 haakondahl  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:46:00am

re: #159 Cannadian Club Akbar

I used to date a hot girl and somewhere there was a single guy out there not dating her. Now, he has my job and I have his.

"No matter how fine she is, somebody somewhere is sick of her crap."

209 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:47:03am

re: #208 haakondahl

"No matter how fine she is, somebody somewhere is sick of her crap."

I say the same thing, but with different words.

210 Sharmuta  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:47:56am

Who could forget this 80s classic?

211 CapeCoddah  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:49:26am

You all mad at me for something?

212 ArchangelMichael  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:49:41am

re: #206 Sharmuta

From the soundtrack of one of my favorite over the top coked out binge 80s movies. Between this and the Lost Boys I spent many years drooling over Jamie Gertz.

213 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:49:51am

re: #206 Sharmuta

Well, if we're going there...

/yeah, it's not '80s, but whatever...

214 haakondahl  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:49:59am

re: #154 Cannadian Club Akbar

That's cool right there. Disney was right, it is a small, small world.

Not when you're travelling with the Army. Then it's fucking enormous.

215 haakondahl  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:50:20am

re: #211 CapeCoddah

You all mad at me for something?

No. Just can't stand your accent.

216 Sharmuta  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:51:04am

re: #211 CapeCoddah

No! I was trying to find music for folks.

217 CapeCoddah  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:51:17am

LOL, well, there is that. And for the record, I take pains to pronounce my "R"s

218 CapeCoddah  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:51:36am

How are you, Sharm?

219 haakondahl  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:52:50am

re: #217 CapeCoddah

LOL, well, there is that. And for the record, I take pains to pronounce my "R"s

Your what?

220 laZardo  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:53:01am

re: #212 ArchangelMichael

From the soundtrack of one of my favorite over the top coked out binge 80s movies.

221 spiderx  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:53:07am

ted kennedy has died. RIP

222 Sharmuta  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:53:09am

re: #218 CapeCoddah

I'm doing alright. Many of us are thinking of the Kennedy family, and our thoughts are with your fair state today, who has lost a dedicated servant.

223 CapeCoddah  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:53:59am

My R's ...Been told I had the Boston accent.

224 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:54:06am

re: #217 CapeCoddah

LOL, well, there is that. And for the record, I take pains to pronounce my "R"s

And they say we in the south talk funny. Ya'll talk funny:)

225 ArchangelMichael  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:54:17am

re: #219 haakondahl

"I believe you would find that in the R section."
"No not in the 'Rs'."
"That's not what your mother said last night!"

226 Sharmuta  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:54:43am

This 80s hit goes out to Freetoken

/sorry- embed disabled

227 BatGuano  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:55:09am

re: #212 ArchangelMichael

I remember, a Simon and Garfunkel song.

228 ArchangelMichael  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:55:18am

re: #220 laZardo

I always forget that one isn't from the late 70s.

229 CapeCoddah  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:56:04am

re: #222 Sharmuta

I am thinking of them also, but, as I said, mixed feelings for me. The last thing done in his name threw this state into another unholy tailspin. What a mess.

230 theheat  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:56:54am

Anyone know if littleoldlady is still MIA? I stopped in for fruitcup, but I fear the fruitcup buffet may be closed for the evening.

231 CapeCoddah  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:57:01am

re: #224 Cannadian Club Akbar

And they say we in the south talk funny. Ya'll talk funny:)

you DO talk funny! But I love the different accents this country offers. Like wearing your address on your forehead.

232 restitutor orbis  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:57:30am

Wading through the Kos sewer, about 90% of the traffic is of a sad mourning nature, as it should be. The rest?
"Why couldn't it have been Bush"?
"Why couldn't it have been Cheney"?
"Lets try to ram healthcare through with (get this) Kennedy's name on it, then shame all who would oppose it so soon after his death!"

Sick, sick, sick, I couldn't imagine being so full of hate.

233 CapeCoddah  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:57:48am

re: #219 haakondahl

Your what?

C'mon, it is 5am here, I just woke up!! gimme a small break!! lol

234 haakondahl  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:58:08am

re: #223 CapeCoddah

My R's ...Been told I had the Boston accent.

Your what?

235 BatGuano  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:58:33am

Simon and Garnfukel.

236 CapeCoddah  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:58:45am

re: #225 ArchangelMichael

"I believe you would find that in the R section."
"No not in the 'Rs'."
"That's not what your mother said last night!"

That was REALLY bad.

237 Sharmuta  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:59:05am

re: #230 theheat

Still on a break.

238 eddiespaghetti  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:59:05am

re: #229 CapeCoddah

Are you referring to this?

239 Sharmuta  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:59:34am

More chicks rocking through the 80s

240 haakondahl  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:59:34am

re: #220 laZardo

[Video]

Good Lord. I wondered why you had linked to such a poorly done MIDI version of the sing. Then the singing started.

241 theheat  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 1:59:53am

re: #237 Sharmuta

Oh, the hunger pains. I might not make it.

242 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 2:00:58am

re: #241 theheat

Oh, the hunger pains. I might not make it.

I think it is "hunger pangs."

243 theheat  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 2:01:58am

re: #242 Cannadian Club Akbar

I think you're right. But my stomach hurts, so pains comes to mind. All I've had today was chocolate milk.

244 CapeCoddah  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 2:02:04am

re: #238 eddiespaghetti

Are you referring to this?

That's it, problem is he backed the change when they thought Kerry was gonna win the presidency. It was a cheaters move then, and same thing now. Gives one a tiny peek at just how corrupt and paid for this state is. It is unconscionable.

245 haakondahl  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 2:02:18am

re: #237 Sharmuta

Still on a break.

246 ArchangelMichael  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 2:02:54am

re: #239 Sharmuta

More chicks rocking through the 80s


[Video]

I think I embarrassed myself professing my elementary school crush on Belinda Carlisle here once already.

I think my favorite 'musical chick' of the 80s was actually her though:

247 BatGuano  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 2:03:21am

God night, all.

248 TheMatrix31  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 2:04:21am

re: #238 eddiespaghetti

Are you referring to this?

bleh

249 ArchangelMichael  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 2:04:26am

re: #236 CapeCoddah

That was REALLY bad.

Well I blame Darrel Hammond and Will Farrel for that one. It was a SNL Celebrity Jeopardy thing.

250 freetoken  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 2:04:43am

re: #226 Sharmuta

ども ありがとう

/the Vapors? I think I've probably heard them once...

// re: turning Japanese... don't think it is possible. What I discovered - you can take the boy out of the West, but you can't take the West out of the boy.

251 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 2:05:09am

re: #249 ArchangelMichael

Well I blame Darrel Hammond and Will Farrel for that one. It was a SNL Celebrity Jeopardy thing.

Suck it, Trebek!!

252 haakondahl  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 2:05:10am

re: #246 ArchangelMichael

I think I embarrassed myself professing my elementary school crush on Belinda Carlisle here once already.

I think my favorite 'musical chick' of the 80s was actually her though:


Dude. What's not to crush?

253 eddiespaghetti  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 2:05:49am

re: #244 CapeCoddah

All your points are valid, and the Globe seems to agree that it smacked of the worst sort of politics.

However, I'm honestly skeptical that he actually 'wrote' it, given the timing. Time will tell if someone sells a book about it.

254 ArchangelMichael  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 2:06:02am

re: #251 Cannadian Club Akbar

Suck it, Trebek!!

Let try the rapists for twenty!

255 haakondahl  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 2:06:15am

re: #250 freetoken

ども ありが&# x3068;う

/the Vapors? I think I've probably heard them once...

// re: turning Japanese... don't think it is possible. What I discovered - you can take the boy out of the West, but you can't take the West out of the boy.

Atomic updings, my round-eyed friend.

256 laZardo  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 2:06:39am

re: #250 freetoken

turning Japanese... don't think it is possible. What I discovered - you can take the boy out of the West, but you can't take the West out of the boy.

Two words: Animé Nerds.

/ :B

257 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 2:06:56am

re: #254 ArchangelMichael

Let try the rapists for twenty!

I (heart) boobs!

258 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 2:10:38am

re: #211 CapeCoddah

You all mad at me for something?

You ate my steak, wreaked my car, screwed my girlfriend, and hit on my mom. You told my psycho ex-girlfriend (the one that stabbed me, remember?) that I still loved her. That was a real dick move, and you're paying for my new stitches, jerk. She stabbed me again.

You kicked my dog, pissed in my sink, and hid a rotten fish somewhere in my house. Fuck, it stinks!

And you covered my linoleum floor with used wood paneling! The splinters still hurt.

But no, I'm not mad at you. At least I won't be if you replace that twelve pack of mine you drank up last thursday.

259 CapeCoddah  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 2:11:33am

The biggest problem with the Kennedy senate seat is this,, it has truly become a legacy passed from one kennedy to the next. JFK held the seat, and was elected president. At that time, the newly elected President asked the Massachusetts governor to appoint a family friend, Ben Smith to the senate seat for a little over a year, until Ted was old enough to buy er, run for it. Now, that is being done again to hold it for Joe Kennedy III,. Sorry, but these people DO NOT own that seat, and you would never know it.re: #253 eddiespaghetti

All your points are valid, and the Globe seems to agree that it smacked of the worst sort of politics.

However, I'm honestly skeptical that he actually 'wrote' it, given the timing. Time will tell if someone sells a book about it.

Eddie, obviously you have never lived in MAssachusetts. Nothing is done here politically by accident. This was planned the moment the Senator was diagnosed. Had the senator had the best interests of the people and the state in mind, one would think that he would have turned in his resignation, when diagnosed, five months in advance, which is what HIS new law called for special election wise to fill vacancies. Did he resign, no, how can you pass the seat on to your nephew when you do that. BTW, Joe Kennedy III, is hugo Chaves's buddy... Joe for Oil.

260 freetoken  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 2:11:53am

re: #256 laZardo

Oh... they want to be Japanese, in their minds.

Thing is... living there one would never ever confuse anime with real life. Real life is much harder. Anime is Japanese escapism.

261 CapeCoddah  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 2:12:35am

re: #258 Slumbering Behemoth

You ate my steak, wreaked my car, screwed my girlfriend, and hit on my mom. You told my psycho ex-girlfriend (the one that stabbed me, remember?) that I still loved her. That was a real dick move, and you're paying for my new stitches, jerk. She stabbed me again.

You kicked my dog, pissed in my sink, and hid a rotten fish somewhere in my house. Fuck, it stinks!

And you covered my linoleum floor with used wood paneling! The splinters still hurt.

But no, I'm not mad at you. At least I won't be if you replace that twelve pack of mine you drank up last thursday.

LOL, I HAVE been gone too long... it was not me!! Happily married straight woman here!! I swear!

262 Sharmuta  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 2:14:39am

Y'all ought to be thankful I don't display my deep passion for Donna Summer around you.

Oops. Spoke too soon.

263 CapeCoddah  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 2:14:39am

SB, sounds like you and my dad date the same women!

264 eddiespaghetti  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 2:16:00am

re: #260 freetoken

Prolly stating the obvious here, but 'turning japanese' has meanings beyond anime. Just sayin. And thats cool and all.

265 freetoken  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 2:16:07am

Of all the versions of Blowing in the Wind that are on Youtube, the Johnny Cash version has to be the weirdest (as a performance.) Musically though the Sam Cooke version is perhaps the most different.

/I wonder how much $ Dylan made from that song.

266 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 2:16:17am

re: #262 Sharmuta

I love Donna Summer. I am such a disco geek.

267 freetoken  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 2:17:19am

re: #264 eddiespaghetti

Oh yes... but la zardo mentioned the anime freaks...

268 Sharmuta  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 2:18:27am

This one is only slightly safe for work. You go, Donna.

269 wahabicorridor  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 2:18:33am

re: #259 CapeCoddah

I've been hearing for months that he wanted his wife, Vicki, to take his seat.

270 laZardo  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 2:19:46am

re: #264 eddiespaghetti

Prolly stating the obvious here, but 'turning japanese' has meanings beyond anime. Just sayin. And thats cool and all.

No sex, no drugs, no wine, no women, no fun, no sin, no you, no wonder it's dark...

/takes on a whole new meaning. 8D

271 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 2:19:49am

re: #263 CapeCoddah

SB, sounds like you and my dad date the same women!

Ha!

/:sigh:

272 eddiespaghetti  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 2:20:20am

re: #265 freetoken

Another version of 'blowin in the wind' for your bag of tricks.

273 Sharmuta  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 2:21:00am

I've been know to break out into this song

274 CapeCoddah  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 2:21:40am

re: #269 wahabicorridor

I've been hearing for months that he wanted his wife, Vicki, to take his seat.

One never knows in Massachusetts what is going to pop up. That was out there months ago, but of course denied. That seems to be what happens to political wives here when their husbands pass. Nikki Tsongas comes to mind, at the moment, currently serving as a US rep. Her husband died years ago of cancer and she ran for election a few years ago and won, just on the name. Whoever gets the seat, the plan was in place a long time ago.

275 Sharmuta  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 2:23:01am

re: #266 Cannadian Club Akbar

I love Donna Summer. I am such a disco geek.

Me too. Lady has pipes.

276 CapeCoddah  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 2:23:36am

re: #271 Slumbering Behemoth

Ha!

/:sigh:

Why do nice guys love crazy women?.. I keep asking dad, but he won't tell me!!

277 Sharmuta  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 2:25:08am

If we mix Donna Summer with the 80s we might get this:

278 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 2:25:15am

re: #276 CapeCoddah

Why do nice guys love crazy women?.. I keep asking dad, but he won't tell me!!

Nice guys love women, turns out ALL of them are crazy!!
/*ducks*

279 laZardo  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 2:25:49am

re: #273 Sharmuta

In-side out, and...round and round...

280 CapeCoddah  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 2:26:49am

re: #278 Cannadian Club Akbar

Nice guys love women, turns out ALL of them are crazy!!
/*ducks*

Calling me crazy??,,, throws ashtray!!

281 laZardo  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 2:27:55am

re: #280 CapeCoddah

But it feels so right, baby thinking of you keeps me up all night...

/whoops, wrong decade.

282 freetoken  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 2:28:11am

Since we are waxing nostalgic for the '60's...

I'll sign off with this classic:



The Baez version is the most famous, but the guys are less smarmy.

BTW, did you know who supposedly first recorded this song?

283 eddiespaghetti  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 2:28:54am

Out. Later ya'll.

284 Sharmuta  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 2:29:11am

Women are only crazy because we have to put up with men.

285 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 2:30:40am

re: #239 Sharmuta

More chicks rocking through the 80s


[Video]

There is a video out there, somewhere, of a rather young and inebriated Belinda Carlisle pontificating on the virtues of masturbation.

For the life of me, I can not find it on these interwebs.

286 wahabicorridor  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 2:31:35am

re: #285 Slumbering Behemoth

For the life of me, I can not find it on these interwebs.

There are times I am grateful for the small things...

287 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 2:31:55am

re: #285 Slumbering Behemoth

There is a video out there, somewhere, of a rather young and inebriated Belinda Carlisle pontificating on the virtues of masturbation.

For the life of me, I can not find it on these interwebs.

Was it a PSA?
/

288 CapeCoddah  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 2:33:19am

re: #284 Sharmuta

Women are only crazy because we have to put up with men.

OOH, good point. But, my dad finds doozies!

289 Sharmuta  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 2:35:53am

I promise that at no time in any Donna Summer induced frenzy I might fall into will I ever link MacArthur Park.

290 Sharmuta  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 2:36:13am

re: #289 Sharmuta

I promise that at no time in any Donna Summer induced frenzy I might fall into will I ever link MacArthur Park.

You're welcome.

291 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 2:36:42am

re: #289 Sharmuta

I promise that at no time in any Donna Summer induced frenzy I might fall into will I ever link MacArthur Park.

Why not? I love that song.

292 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 2:37:28am

re: #276 CapeCoddah

Why do nice guys love crazy women?.. I keep asking dad, but he won't tell me!!

Don't try to change the subject, Coddah! Why the hell were you hitting on my mom?
/

Why do nice guys like crazy women? Why do good girls like bad boys?

293 laZardo  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 2:37:31am

re: #289 Sharmuta

I promise that at no time in any Donna Summer induced frenzy I might fall into will I ever link MacArthur Park.

Okay.

294 wahabicorridor  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 2:40:39am

Thank goodness India gets it. Guess they won't be emitting any carbon traveling to Copenhagen.

Three cheers for Jairam Ramesh! India at last has an environment minister who is willing and able to denounce the hypocrisy and immorality of the West in twisting the arms of India and China to curb their carbon emissions. He is right to make it clear that India has no intention of signing the new ‘climate change’ treaty in Copenhagen in December, which would put curbs on the carbon emissions of the Third World. If they do not comply they are being threatened by the draft bill going through the US Congress to levy carbon tariffs on their exports.
[ ]
Nothing is more hypocritical and immoral than rich Westerners driving their gas-guzzling SUVs emoting about the threat to Spaceship Earth from the millions of Indians who want to drive Nanos. Whilst the salving of their consciences by buying carbon offsets (as Al Gore claims to do every time he jets around the world) is akin to the Papal indulgences sold by the Catholic Church, which allowed its richer adherents to assuage their guilt and ‘fornicate on clean sheets’. For Gore to have the lights on his mansion blazing throughout the night, and seek to restrict the emissions from Indian power stations, when most Indians don’t even have an electric light bulb, is deeply wicked.

295 CapeCoddah  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 2:41:00am

re: #292 Slumbering Behemoth

Don't try to change the subject, Coddah! Why the hell were you hitting on my mom?
/

Why do nice guys like crazy women? Why do good girls like bad boys?

lol, SB, that explains a lot, like why you date psychopaths!!

296 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 2:41:02am

They are still running Cash for Clunker ads on my radio. D'oh!

297 CapeCoddah  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 2:41:58am

re: #296 Cannadian Club Akbar

They are still running Cash for Clunker ads on my radio. D'oh!

Mine too... "Hurry, before it is too late!!"

298 wahabicorridor  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 2:42:33am

re: #296 Cannadian Club Akbar

They are still running Cash for Clunker ads on my radio. D'oh!

Did you catch that the rebate is taxable? Yep, go to register the car and you pay taxes on the full price.

S U C K E R S

299 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 2:44:26am

re: #298 wahabicorridor

Did you catch that the rebate is taxable? Yep, go to register the car and you pay taxes on the full price.

S U C K E R S

I want to see how all these dealerships are doing come October/November.

300 BignJames  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 2:44:39am

re: #282 freetoken

Pete Seegar?

301 Sharmuta  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 2:45:55am

re: #296 Cannadian Club Akbar

They are still running Cash for Clunker ads on my radio. D'oh!

On the radio?

302 Sharmuta  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 2:46:17am

re: #300 BignJames

Pete Seegar?

Are we playing the question game?

303 laZardo  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 2:46:38am

re: #301 Sharmuta

GMTA #273

304 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 2:47:00am

re: #301 Sharmuta

On the radio?

I didn't click on the video, but I know what's there!!:)

305 wahabicorridor  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 2:47:10am

re: #299 Cannadian Club Akbar

I want to see how all these dealerships are doing come October/November.

My guess is that their sales are going to be down. All this did was front-load everything - didn't do anything to increase sales overall.

306 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 2:49:04am

re: #295 CapeCoddah

lol, SB, that explains a lot, like why you date psychopaths!!

Um.. on a serious note... I don't, not anymore, not for a long time.
/I could play the bad boy, but that's no longer my style... I prefer simplicity, not drama.

307 laZardo  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 2:49:30am

Gotta head home from college. Bbl.

308 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 2:49:49am

re: #305 wahabicorridor

My guess is that their sales are going to be down. All this did was front-load everything - didn't do anything to increase sales overall.


And Zero said unemployment will hit 10% so I'm waiting to see a run on repos.

309 wahabicorridor  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 2:50:33am

re: #308 Cannadian Club Akbar

And Zero said unemployment will hit 10% so I'm waiting to see a run on repos.

Oh, good point, I hadn't thought of that one.

310 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 2:52:04am

re: #309 wahabicorridor

Oh, good point, I hadn't thought of that one.

Then a big sale on used cars that were repoed. This should work out just as planned.
///

311 BignJames  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 2:52:08am

re: #302 Sharmuta

Are we playing the question game?


Yeah, answer a question w/a question.

312 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 2:53:05am

re: #311 BignJames

Yeah, answer a question w/a question.

That wasn't a question now was it?

313 wahabicorridor  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 2:53:56am

A bit late catching this but worthwhile nonetheless.

Tv programme Nova and politician Geert Wilders will not be prosecuted for publishing controversial Danish cartoons which poke fun at Mohammed, the public prosecution department said on Tuesday.

The department said reproducing the 12 cartoons, which led to worldwide unrest when published in a Danish newspaper in 2006, is not punishable by law because they target Mohammed not Muslims in general.

The cartoons 'do not insult Muslims nor incite hatred', the department said in a statement.

However, the pro-Arab Arabische Europese Liga has been told it does face prosecution unless it removes a cartoon featuring two Jews inventing the holocaust.

That cartoon does 'insult Jews because of their race and/or religion' because it implies Jews themselves invented the idea that six million were killed during World War II, the department said.

It took them, what, three years to figure this out?

314 freetoken  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 2:54:50am

re: #300 BignJames

Well, yes, it is his song. However, I haven't found a copy of his initial recording of it (supposedly from 1961.) While the Trio I linked were the first to have had it as a hit, in 1962, supposedly they recorded it the year earlier. Dietrich sang it in 1962 also.

I guess my point being... it is a song strongly associated with the anti-Vietnam war movement, and Joan Baez in the late '60's, but it was not originally, or principally, about the Vietnam war, but just war in general.

315 Sharmuta  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 2:55:13am

re: #311 BignJames

Yeah, answer a question w/a question.

How do I do that?

316 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 2:55:54am

re: #315 Sharmuta

How do I do that?

You don't know?

317 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 2:56:22am

re: #315 Sharmuta

How do I do that?

This again?

318 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 2:57:00am

re: #317 Slumbering Behemoth

This again?

You got a better idea?

319 wahabicorridor  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 2:58:23am

off to get the papers - bbl

320 TheMatrix31  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 3:03:09am

re: #319 wahabicorridor

off to get the papers - bbl

You mean you're gonna go get the papers, get the papers?

321 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 3:03:17am

re: #318 Cannadian Club Akbar

Why? Oh lord, why?

Pfft! I got nuthin'. Later Lizards.

G'nite {LoL}, wherever you are...

322 CapeCoddah  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 3:07:21am

re: #306 Slumbering Behemoth

Um.. on a serious note... I don't, not anymore, not for a long time.
/I could play the bad boy, but that's no longer my style... I prefer simplicity, not drama.

Good for you.. I hope dad can do the same!

323 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 3:23:52am

I am applying for a job today with a company that is found in the Whole Food stores, but not part of Whole Foods themselves. I sure hope they are union free.
[Link: www.breitbart.com...]

324 srb1976  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 3:25:15am

Good morning!

325 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 3:25:57am

re: #324 srb1976

Good morning!

Says who?
/

326 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 3:28:02am

re: #324 srb1976

The room was really jumping until 20 minutes ago. Now, not so much.

327 srb1976  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 3:28:07am

re: #325 Cannadian Club Akbar

Says who?
/

= )
I got to sleep in an hour today, mandatory class starts later than work...that makes it a good morning!

328 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 3:29:24am

re: #327 srb1976

= )
I got to sleep in an hour today, mandatory class starts later than work...that makes it a good morning!

Certification of some kind or an MSDS class?

329 srb1976  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 3:30:18am

re: #328 Cannadian Club Akbar

Certification of some kind or an MSDS class?

forklift refresher

330 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 3:31:49am

re: #329 srb1976

forklift refresher

I have my fork lift license. The class put many people to sleep. We only watched videos.

331 srb1976  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 3:38:49am

re: #330 Cannadian Club Akbar

I have my fork lift license. The class put many people to sleep. We only watched videos.

Ours is an internal certification, refresher course every year and full course every three...video and a test today, probably over in an hour or two...but it doesn't start until MUCH later than I usually go to work = )

332 Soona'  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 3:39:48am

re: #330 Cannadian Club Akbar

I have my fork lift license. The class put many people to sleep. We only watched videos.

A dark room, the steady hum of the projector. The greatest sleep-aid invented by man.

333 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 3:39:58am

re: #331 srb1976

As long as you are getting paid for the whole day, goodie!!

334 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 3:40:50am

re: #332 Soona'

A dark room, the steady hum of the projector. The greatest sleep-aid invented by man.

Didn't Thomas Edison invent the projector?

335 Jim in Virginia  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 3:41:30am

Morniing all. What happened to our global warming induced hurricane season? Three simultaneous storms, then Pffft!

336 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 3:42:17am

re: #335 Jim in Virginia

Morniing all. What happened to our global warming induced hurricane season? Three simultaneous storms, then Pffft!

DENIER!!!

337 Jim in Virginia  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 3:42:37am

re: #332 Soona'

A dark room, the steady hum of the projector. The greatest sleep-aid invented by man.


Add powerpoint and it's like an IV of a sleep drug.

338 Soona'  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 3:43:08am

re: #335 Jim in Virginia

Morniing all. What happened to our global warming induced hurricane season? Three simultaneous storms, then Pffft!

It's Bush's fault. He took the hurricane machine with him.

339 srb1976  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 3:44:14am

re: #333 Cannadian Club Akbar

As long as you are getting paid for the whole day, goodie!!

well...i have to go and do real work after the class is over, but I'm already looking at having plenty of hours this week = ).

340 Jim in Virginia  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 3:45:57am

One of th ewonderful things about living in DC is that every couple of weeks the WaPo has a paid advertising insert from the Russian, Chinese or Qatari governement on what a keen place it is to do business, invest, or visit. Today it's "Russia Now". Lead article, "Russia's Black community," on the "little- known African- Russian community."

341 Soona'  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 3:46:52am

re: #337 Jim in Virginia

Add powerpoint and it's like an IV of a sleep drug.

Ahh, yes. Does it feel good? Oh yes, it does. Please put up some more financial statistics. That's better...zzz.

342 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 3:47:05am

re: #338 Soona'

It's Bush's fault. He took the hurricane machine with him.

There was a weatherman in Iowa who spouted off that Katrina was made using a machine invented by Tesla. ON THE AIR!!

343 Aisha  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 3:47:20am

Libera me, Domine, de morte aeterna, in die illa tremenda:
Quando caeli movendi sunt et terra.
Dum veneris judicare saeculum per ignem.
Tremens factus sum ego, et timeo, dum discussio venerit, atque ventura ira.
Quando caeli movendi sunt et terra.
Dies illa, dies irae, calamitatis et miseriae, dies magna et amara valde.
Dum veneris judicare saeculum per ignem.
Requiem aeternam dona eis, Domine: et lux perpetua luceat eis.

344 MandyManners  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 3:49:33am

re: #340 Jim in Virginia

One of th ewonderful things about living in DC is that every couple of weeks the WaPo has a paid advertising insert from the Russian, Chinese or Qatari governement on what a keen place it is to do business, invest, or visit. Today it's "Russia Now". Lead article, "Russia's Black community," on the "little- known African- Russian community."

Immigrants from the Patrice Lumumba era?

345 Soona'  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 3:49:56am

re: #342 Cannadian Club Akbar

There was a weatherman in Iowa who spouted off that Katrina was made using a machine invented by Tesla. ON THE AIR!!

But it's Iowa. Nothing unusual.

346 CapeCoddah  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 3:52:43am

re: #345 Soona'

But it's Iowa. Nothing unusual.

Sounds more like Massachusetts than Iowa!

347 srb1976  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 3:54:07am

For some reason, Spokes (our pug puppy) does not seem to enjoy having her eye cleaned out and treated 3 times a day...I can't imagine why...
She is also not a fan of the kid strength antibiotic syrup...

348 MandyManners  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 3:55:07am

re: #343 Aisha

AISHA!

349 MandyManners  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 3:56:28am

re: #343 Aisha

Libera me, Domine, de morte aeterna, in die illa tremenda:
Quando caeli movendi sunt et terra.
Dum veneris judicare saeculum per ignem.
Tremens factus sum ego, et timeo, dum discussio venerit, atque ventura ira.
Quando caeli movendi sunt et terra.
Dies illa, dies irae, calamitatis et miseriae, dies magna et amara valde.
Dum veneris judicare saeculum per ignem.
Requiem aeternam dona eis, Domine: et lux perpetua luceat eis.

Could you translate that to Pig Latin?

350 MandyManners  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 3:56:44am

re: #349 MandyManners

Could you translate that to Pig Latin?

Or, would that be haraam?

351 3 wood  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 4:01:15am

Condolences to the Kennedy family on the passing of Senator Kennedy. It's the end of an era in American politics.

352 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 4:04:20am

re: #351 3 wood

And the Dems will attach his name to a failure health bill and anyone who votes against it wll be mean spirited.

353 MandyManners  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 4:04:47am

Now that Ted is dead, who will take his seat?

354 CapeCoddah  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 4:04:53am

re: #351 3 wood

Condolences to the Kennedy family on the passing of Senator Kennedy. It's the end of an era in American politics.

Morning, 3wood, trust me, it is a far, far cry from the end of the Kennedy's in politics.

355 Jetpilot1101  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 4:04:54am

I was saddened to wake up this morning and hear of the passing of Senator Kennedy. My thoughts and prayers are with his family. Rest in peace Senator.

356 soxfan4life  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 4:05:46am

re: #351 3 wood

Should prove interesting to see what the Commonwealth does to fill his seat, as you couldn't possibly find a replacement for Teddy. So sad that they lost both him and his sister so close together.

357 3 wood  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 4:06:18am

The market futures are mixed before the open. Oil and gas show some weakness.

Oil and gas firms weaken in steady FTSE 100


LONDON (MarketWatch) -- Oil and gas firms weakened in a steady London share market on Wednesday, with Tullow Oil under pressure notably.

The losses came after light sweet crude futures tumbled in New York trading on Tuesday. Crude-oil futures were up 38 cents at $72.42 a barrel in electronic trading on Wednesday ahead of weekly inventory data. See full story.

358 Jetpilot1101  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 4:06:35am

re: #353 MandyManners

Now that Ted is dead, who will take his seat?

I believe there will be a special election held in MA and most likely a democrat will win. I'd bet that Delahunt throws his name in the ring.

359 CapeCoddah  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 4:06:44am

re: #353 MandyManners

Hey Mandy, it will most likely be Joe Kennedy III, Bobby's son. We have to wait and see how the corrupt Mass legislature will fill the seat. Ted's widow is also mentioned locally.

360 3 wood  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 4:07:19am

re: #352 Cannadian Club Akbar

And the Dems will attach his name to a failure health bill and anyone who votes against it wll be mean spirited.

Guaranteed. And racist.

361 3 wood  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 4:08:00am

re: #353 MandyManners

Now that Ted is dead, who will take his seat?

They've got to have a special election. Maybe Caroline will go for that one too?

362 Jim in Virginia  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 4:08:19am

re: #343 Aisha
Aisha honey, are you Catholic? Is that for Sen. Kennedy?

363 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 4:08:43am

What was the name of the Senator from Minnesota whose public memorial turned into a pep rally?

364 3 wood  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 4:10:05am

re: #354 CapeCoddah

Morning, 3wood, trust me, it is a far, far cry from the end of the Kennedy's in politics.

Sure, I was just thinking about my whole life has been influenced in some way by the 3 brothers, all of whom are now gone.

365 Soona'  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 4:10:37am

re: #353 MandyManners

Now that Ted is dead, who will take his seat?

They'll certainly figure out a way to put a dem there. If nothing else just to keep their 60 votes. The zero, pelosi, and reid will have a heavy hand in all of this.

366 soxfan4life  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 4:11:20am

re: #353 MandyManners

Now that Ted is dead, who will take his seat?

Due to the fact that the Dem heavy state legislature was scared to death that then Gov Mitt Romney might appoint a Republican to take John Kerry's seat had he won in 2004 they changed the law making a special election the law, and last week Teddy tried to rally support to change the law back so Gov Patrick could appoint a good party line toeing lib to help 0 get his healthcare reform passed. So there should be a special election in the Commonwealth soon.

367 3 wood  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 4:11:50am

re: #359 CapeCoddah

Hey Mandy, it will most likely be Joe Kennedy III, Bobby's son. We have to wait and see how the corrupt Mass legislature will fill the seat. Ted's widow is also mentioned locally.

Well, if they do it like Illinois it's up for sale.

368 MandyManners  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 4:12:27am

re: #358 Jetpilot1101

I believe there will be a special election held in MA and most likely a democrat will win. I'd bet that Delahunt throws his name in the ring.

re: #359 CapeCoddah

Hey Mandy, it will most likely be Joe Kennedy III, Bobby's son. We have to wait and see how the corrupt Mass legislature will fill the seat. Ted's widow is also mentioned locally.

I will refrain from commenting about Joe's wreckless driving that lead to the paralyzation of a woman.

369 soxfan4life  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 4:12:32am

re: #363 Cannadian Club Akbar

What was the name of the Senator from Minnesota whose public memorial turned into a pep rally?

Paul Wellstone

370 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 4:13:03am

re: #369 soxfan4life

Paul Wellstone

Thank you.

371 legalpad  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 4:13:26am

re: #349 MandyManners

Could you translate that to Pig Latin?

English ok?

Deliver me, O Lord, from death eternal on that fearful day,
when the heavens and the earth shall be moved,
when thou shalt come to judge the world by fire.

I am made to tremble, and I fear, till the judgment be upon us, and the coming wrath,when the heavens and the earth shall be moved.
That day, day of wrath, calamity, and misery, day of great and
exceeding bitterness, when thou shalt come to judge the world by fire.
Rest eternal grant unto them, O Lord: and let light perpetual shine upon them.

372 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 4:13:53am

re: #368 MandyManners

I will refrain from commenting about Joe's wreckless driving that lead to the paralyzation of a woman.

But,but, he was on a sleeping drug prescribed by a doctor.
/

373 soxfan4life  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 4:14:42am

re: #358 Jetpilot1101

I believe there will be a special election held in MA and most likely a democrat will win. I'd bet that Delahunt throws his name in the ring.

Could be worse, Barney Frank or Martha Coakley could be on the ballot.

374 Soona'  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 4:14:48am

re: #368 MandyManners

I will refrain from commenting about Joe's wreckless driving that lead to the paralyzation of a woman.

Yup. An end of an era. Thank you God.

375 MandyManners  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 4:14:58am

If my life ever gets boring and humdrum, I'll consider moving to Massachusetts.

re: #361 3 woodre: #365 Soona'

re: #366 soxfan4life

376 MandyManners  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 4:15:39am

re: #371 legalpad

English ok?

Deliver me, O Lord, from death eternal on that fearful day,
when the heavens and the earth shall be moved,
when thou shalt come to judge the world by fire.

I am made to tremble, and I fear, till the judgment be upon us, and the coming wrath,when the heavens and the earth shall be moved.
That day, day of wrath, calamity, and misery, day of great and
exceeding bitterness, when thou shalt come to judge the world by fire.
Rest eternal grant unto them, O Lord: and let light perpetual shine upon them.

Thank you.

377 justdanny  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 4:16:07am

R.I.P. Mary Jo Kopechne. July 26, 1940 – July 18, 1969

378 MandyManners  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 4:16:11am

re: #372 Cannadian Club Akbar

But,but, he was on a sleeping drug prescribed by a doctor.
/

Will his marriage ever be annulled?

379 CapeCoddah  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 4:16:22am

re: #368 MandyManners

I will refrain from commenting about Joe's wreckless driving that lead to the paralyzation of a woman.

I never have refrained from that. There is a lot more to Joe III than that story, also. As I had said earlier, I knew Sen. Kennedy personally, growing up as neighbors. I liked him personally, he was an awfully nice man to talk to. But, it is time for the Kennedy's to bow out of Massachusetts politics.

380 3 wood  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 4:16:48am

You have to be in the game to win:

Applying Roubini Wisdom to Stocks Means Missing Out


Aug. 26 (Bloomberg) -- Making money on the thinking of Nouriel Roubini isn’t what it used to be.

The New York University professor, who in 2006 foretold the worst financial unraveling since the Great Depression, has yet to say the economy is worth investing in again. “There is a big risk of a double-dip recession,” wrote Roubini, also known as Dr. Doom, in his column in the Financial Times this week.

Anyone attempting to apply Roubini’s wisdom to stocks may be forgiven for missing the biggest rally since the 1930s as the Standard & Poor’s 500 Index climbed 52 percent in six months. While Roubini said in March the advance was a “dead-cat bounce,” that it may “fizzle” in May and warned in July that the economy’s “not out of the woods,” the MSCI World Index was posting a 58 percent gain, the largest since it began in 1970.

True, but be cautious, this thing could still drop like a rock again.

381 MandyManners  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 4:16:58am

re: #374 Soona'

Yup. An end of an era. Thank you God.

Joe's still here.

382 MandyManners  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 4:17:59am

re: #379 CapeCoddah

I never have refrained from that. There is a lot more to Joe III than that story, also. As I had said earlier, I knew Sen. Kennedy personally, growing up as neighbors. I liked him personally, he was an awfully nice man to talk to. But, it is time for the Kennedy's to bow out of Massachusetts politics.

Interesting how Maria got the heck out of there. All the way to the opposite coast.

383 CapeCoddah  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 4:18:20am

re: #373 soxfan4life

Could be worse, Barney Frank or Martha Coakley could be on the ballot.

Coakley has been quietly setting the groundwork for a run at the seat since Kennedy was diagnosed

384 yesandno  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 4:18:25am

We can hope that his funeral will be dignified, unlike Wellstone's. And I do believe the family will see to that.

This is an end of an era. With him gone, possibly a repudiation of Dodd and of Reid, the Senate will begin to take on a much different character. I hope the people of Massachusetts will think a lot before they select a replacement. The person will never have the stature of Kennedy. But maybe they will not represent JUST the far left as everything else in the Democrat Party now does.

RIP Senator.

385 Soona'  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 4:18:46am

re: #381 MandyManners

Joe's still here.

Yeah. Damn!

386 CapeCoddah  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 4:18:52am

re: #378 MandyManners

Will his marriage ever be annulled?

Yes, which pissed the people right off, and is the reason he is not in politics today

387 Aisha  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 4:20:01am

Aisha is a Muslimah. Kufr Kennedy was a Catholic kufr, though. So Aisha will do the haraam thinkg and pray his way. What do you expect? A mourner's Kaddash? Supplications to Allah Taalaa? It's an old prayer for and in the name of the dead imploring G-d:

Deliver me, O Lord, from death eternal on that fearful day,
when the heavens and the earth shall be moved,
when thou shalt come to judge the world by fire.
I am made to tremble, and I fear, till the judgment be upon us, and the coming wrath,
when the heavens and the earth shall be moved.
That day, day of wrath, calamity, and misery, day of great and exceeding bitterness,
when thou shalt come to judge the world by fire.
Rest eternal grant unto them, O Lord: and let light perpetual shine upon them.

388 CapeCoddah  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 4:20:03am

re: #382 MandyManners

Interesting how Maria got the heck out of there. All the way to the opposite coast.

Sure is,,, her mom was a pistol, btw. Nice lady.

389 MandyManners  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 4:20:55am

If his name is attached to the health insurance bill, I hope some prominent Republicans and pundits bring up the fact that he had the best care anywhere, the kind of care that the average American does not get and surely will not get if the bill is shoved down our throats.

390 CapeCoddah  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 4:21:18am

Mandy, I meant to say yes, Joe Kennedy's marriage WAS annulled, years ago.

391 soxfan4life  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 4:21:20am

re: #383 CapeCoddah

Coakley has been quietly setting the groundwork for a run at the seat since Kennedy was diagnosed

She would be a disaster as US Senator. About the same as she is as State Attorney General. Hopefully whoever she is up against uses the awful job she did on the Big Dig settlement like a sledge hammer on her.

392 MandyManners  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 4:21:25am

re: #386 CapeCoddah

Yes, which pissed the people right off, and is the reason he is not in politics today

Wiki said that the Vatican overturned the annullment.

393 MandyManners  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 4:22:13am

Just one "l".

394 CapeCoddah  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 4:23:06am

re: #392 MandyManners

Wiki said that the Vatican overturned the annullment.

Not sure about that myself, could be true. The petition for annulment cost him his political career in Massachusetts, the governorship.

395 3 wood  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 4:23:26am

Sarkozy Threat to Shun Banks on Pay Draws U.S. Alarm

Aug. 26 (Bloomberg) -- French President Nicolas Sarkozy’s plan to shun bankers who don’t accept pay limits was met with alarm by analysts and investors in the U.S., where Citigroup Inc. and six other bailed-out companies are being grilled by the government on how they compensate top-paid executives.

“I find Sarkozy’s statements threatening,” said Bruce Foerster, president of South Beach Capital Markets in Miami and a former Lehman Brothers Holdings Inc. executive.

France won’t hire financial firms unless they apply rules agreed to by French bankers that include a three-year deferral on two-thirds of bonus payments, Sarkozy said yesterday. He aims to bring his proposals to the Group of 20 summit in Pittsburgh next month, which President Barack Obama is scheduled to attend.

Sarkozy is “coming to Pittsburgh and is going to be whispering in the ear of a president who has shown some willingness to listen to that kind of thinking,” Foerster said. “President Obama has made a lot of scathing comments about banks and bankers’ compensation.”

The demonizing of America will continue.

396 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 4:23:28am

re: #389 MandyManners

If his name is attached to the health insurance bill, I hope some prominent Republicans and pundits bring up the fact that he had the best care anywhere, the kind of care that the average American does not get and surely will not get if the bill is shoved down our throats.

I swear I heard a clip of Ted on the radio this morning saying all people should have the health care that those in DC have. I might have been hearing things.

397 CapeCoddah  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 4:25:05am

re: #391 soxfan4life

She would be a disaster as US Senator. About the same as she is as State Attorney General. Hopefully whoever she is up against uses the awful job she did on the Big Dig settlement like a sledge hammer on her.

Delahunt stole the seat he currently holds, also. Johnston actually won the seat.
I wish Mitt Romney had stayed and run for it, but he moved out of state. There is a state rep named Jeff Perry who would be awesome.

398 MandyManners  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 4:27:51am

re: #394 CapeCoddah

Not sure about that myself, could be true. The petition for annulment cost him his political career in Massachusetts, the governorship.

Wiki said that the initial grant was based on the grounds of "mental deficiency". Does that mean Kennedy said his wife was mentally retarded or crazy?

399 3 wood  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 4:27:55am

By the way, has any body seen any coverage by the MSM on Cindy Sheehan's protest of Obama in Martha's Vineyard? I've not seen a second.

Funny how that is.

400 soxfan4life  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 4:28:56am

re: #397 CapeCoddah

Delahunt stole the seat he currently holds, also. Johnston actually won the seat.
I wish Mitt Romney had stayed and run for it, but he moved out of state. There is a state rep named Jeff Perry who would be awesome.

By the time they have the special election I will be no longer on the voting rolls in MA, am in the midst of a move to TX.

401 MandyManners  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 4:29:11am

re: #396 Cannadian Club Akbar

I swear I heard a clip of Ted on the radio this morning saying all people should have the health care that those in DC have. I might have been hearing things.

He could say that but, he knew that was impossible and no where close to the kind of socialized care we'd get.

402 CapeCoddah  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 4:29:25am

re: #398 MandyManners

Wiki said that the initial grant was based on the grounds of "mental deficiency". Does that mean Kennedy said his wife was mentally retarded or crazy?

Had to have, as he was the petitioner. Makes you want to cosh him with a frying pan, huh? He wanted the annulment (after 4 kids) and cheating on his wife, to marry the girlfriend.

403 CapeCoddah  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 4:30:42am

re: #400 soxfan4life

By the time they have the special election I will be no longer on the voting rolls in MA, am in the midst of a move to TX.

There will not be a special election,, De Leo is now in favor of the governor making the appointment, so is Murray. They came out quietly yesterday. We are going to be screwed again.

404 MandyManners  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 4:31:01am

re: #399 3 wood

By the way, has any body seen any coverage by the MSM on Cindy Sheehan's protest of Obama in Martha's Vineyard? I've not seen a second.

Funny how that is.

No but, I've seen plenty of speculation that Chelsea Clinton will be married on M.V. this week, and I saw the coverage of the doggie parade to welcome First Dog Bo.

Priorities.

405 soxfan4life  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 4:31:25am

re: #402 CapeCoddah

And now he's in bed with Hugo Chavez, CITGO is the oil provider for Citizens Energy.

406 MandyManners  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 4:32:12am

re: #402 CapeCoddah

Had to have, as he was the petitioner. Makes you want to cosh him with a frying pan, huh? He wanted the annulment (after 4 kids) and cheating on his wife, to marry the girlfriend.

So in the eyes of the church, his present marriage does not exist since the Vatican overturned the annulment?

407 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 4:32:14am

Cable news line-up for the next 12 months.
1. Kennedy death, remembrance, funeral, restrospective.
2. Michael Jackson death and trial.
3. Another (eventual) dead blonde.

408 CapeCoddah  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 4:32:23am

re: #405 soxfan4life

And now he's in bed with Hugo Chavez, CITGO is the oil provider for Citizens Energy.

Joe III has been in bed with Chavez for years. And proud of it.

409 CapeCoddah  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 4:32:47am

re: #406 MandyManners

So in the eyes of the church, his present marriage does not exist since the Vatican overturned the annulment?

That would be correct.

410 CapeCoddah  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 4:33:42am

But, Mandy, you will notice that he has not been excommunicated, Impossible, but true.

411 soxfan4life  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 4:33:45am

re: #403 CapeCoddah

And coverage of the Democrat hypocrisy by the Boston Globe will be underwhelming or non existent. While I will miss alot of people here, I won't be sad to see MA in my rearview mirror.

412 Soona'  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 4:34:00am

re: #399 3 wood

By the way, has any body seen any coverage by the MSM on Cindy Sheehan's protest of Obama in Martha's Vineyard? I've not seen a second.

Funny how that is.

There's one thing about Cindy that I respect. She's consistant.

413 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 4:34:11am

re: #408 CapeCoddah

Joe III has been in bed with Chavez for years. And proud of it.

In Florida, the gas stations on the turnpike had Citco gas. Not no more.

414 3 wood  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 4:34:18am

US Postal Service Seeks 30,000 Job Cuts Via Buyouts

The U.S. Postal Service, the nation's second-largest employer, offered buyouts on Tuesday to quickly slash up to 30,000 jobs as it grapples with declining mail volume and embraces more automation.

The incentive for voluntary resignations and early retirements among a pool of veteran workers by the end of September is part of a drive to cut costs by $6 billion this fiscal year, the Postal Service said.

"This decision reflects our desire to provide a fair and equitable opportunity for some of our longest-serving employees," said Anthony Vegliante, chief human resources officer and executive vice president.

"It is important to the Postal Service that we take appropriate measures to address our current financial situation."

The majority of those offered $15,000 to leave as part of an agreement with unions -- up to 30,000 people -- work in mail processing facilities, officials said. The Postal Service hopes to save up to $500 million from the move.

415 MandyManners  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 4:34:41am

re: #405 soxfan4life

And now he's in bed with Hugo Chavez, CITGO is the oil provider for Citizens Energy.

Other than helping poor people with heating-fuel costs, what else does C.E. do? Did it lobby for Cap-and-Trade?

416 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 4:35:41am

re: #414 3 wood

US Postal Service Seeks 30,000 Job Cuts Via Buyouts

B-b-b-but... Unicorns! RAINBOWS!

/

417 MandyManners  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 4:35:57am

re: #409 CapeCoddah

That would be correct.

So, if he were to die before the annulment is granted, would the Catholic Church refuse to allow his new wife to be buried next to him in a church cemetery?

418 CapeCoddah  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 4:36:30am

re: #411 soxfan4life

And coverage of the Democrat hypocrisy by the Boston Globe will be underwhelming or non existent. While I will miss alot of people here, I won't be sad to see MA in my rearview mirror.

For me, I am bound to the place, here, I am hostage to the politics.re: #415 MandyManners

Other than helping poor people with heating-fuel costs, what else does C.E. do? Did it lobby for Cap-and-Trade?

LOL, Joe pays himself hundreds of thousands of dollars a year "Helping the poor". It is completely self serving. The poor pay for that oil, at a TINY discount.

419 3 wood  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 4:36:52am

re: #412 Soona'

There's one thing about Cindy that I respect. She's consistant.

Sure, and she has the right to protest. I just find it interesting that now, for some strange reason the MSM is not interested.

I notice the MSM has lost their fascination with the casualty count, too.

420 CapeCoddah  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 4:36:57am

re: #417 MandyManners

So, if he were to die before the annulment is granted, would the Catholic Church refuse to allow his new wife to be buried next to him in a church cemetery?

Yes.

421 CapeCoddah  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 4:37:29am

The church can refuse to bury him or his current wife on consecrated ground, also.

422 MandyManners  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 4:37:30am

re: #410 CapeCoddah

But, Mandy, you will notice that he has not been excommunicated, Impossible, but true.

I'm not Catholic so a lot of that church's doctrines confuse me.

423 Soona'  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 4:37:47am

re: #416 thedopefishlives

B-b-b-but... Unicorns! RAINBOWS!

/

They're in the mail. :)

424 Aisha  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 4:37:51am

Actually, Aisha is a big proponent of the theory that when someone dies, you pray for them, to show Allah ta'alla that you respect human life, no matter how wretched.

425 soxfan4life  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 4:37:56am

re: #415 MandyManners

Here is their homepage, seems they are into alot of things. Wind power being a big one so probably yes on cap and trade.


[Link: www.citizensenergy.com...]

426 3 wood  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 4:37:58am

re: #416 thedopefishlives

B-b-b-but... Unicorns! RAINBOWS!

I was told yesterday here that the economy has turned around, so it's all OK.

427 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 4:38:32am

re: #422 MandyManners

I'm not Catholic so a lot of that church's doctrines confuse me.

I went to a Catholic wedding one week...
/

428 CapeCoddah  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 4:38:42am

re: #422 MandyManners

I'm not Catholic so a lot of that church's doctrines confuse me.

I was catholic, and they confused me too, but I got it.

429 soxfan4life  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 4:39:14am

re: #426 3 wood

Was that IW or avanti who told you?

430 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 4:39:26am

re: #426 3 wood

I was told yesterday here that the economy has turned around, so it's all OK.

I keep coming back to the statement the CEO of my company made a couple of months back. To paraphrase: "The economy isn't getting worse as fast as it used to, so that must mean it's getting better."

431 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 4:39:35am

re: #426 3 wood

I was told yesterday here that the economy has turned around, so it's all OK.

They said the same thing on CBS this morning.

432 srb1976  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 4:39:45am

re: #427 Cannadian Club Akbar

I went to a Catholic wedding one week...
/

3 freakin' hours long!! unbelievable!
I once drove 16 hours to go to a catholic wedding...while pregnant...very long week!

433 [deleted]  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 4:40:21am
434 vxbush  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 4:40:40am

A quick hello before I have to get moving today.

Hello.

435 MandyManners  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 4:40:58am

re: #420 CapeCoddah

What made him think he could get away with that? The seemingly genetic hubris of the Kennedy men?

436 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 4:41:21am

re: #433 taxfreekiller

Xx, xxx, Xx, xxx!

I actually understood that.

437 3 wood  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 4:42:17am

Four Banks Dominate August Market in 'Dash for Trash'

In late August's quiet trading, four troubled financial companies have accounted for a big piece of total volume on the New York Stock Exchange, in what one analyst referred to as a "dash for trash."

Citigroup, Bank of America, Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae have dominated trading recently as each has more than doubled in price from 2009 lows.

On Monday and on Tuesday morning, the four accounted for more than 40 percent of composite volume on the NYSE.

You have a lot of free taxpayer money shoveled into those firms.

438 3 wood  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 4:42:38am

re: #429 soxfan4life

The car man.

439 MandyManners  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 4:42:58am

re: #425 soxfan4life

Here is their homepage, seems they are into alot of things. Wind power being a big one so probably yes on cap and trade.


[Link: www.citizensenergy.com...]

Was it Connecticut or Massachusetts where the big-wigs shut down the idea of windmills?

440 SasquatchOnSteroids  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 4:43:11am

Cash for Cons seems to be working.

441 [deleted]  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 4:43:11am
442 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 4:43:29am

re: #439 MandyManners

Was it Connecticut or Massachusetts where the big-wigs shut down the idea of windmills?

I thought it was Massachusetts. All the big-wigs didn't want their beautiful ocean view to be obstructed.

443 MandyManners  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 4:43:39am

re: #434 vxbush

A quick hello before I have to get moving today.

Hello.

Hello!

444 vxbush  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 4:44:37am

A word on Ted Kennedy:

I'll be honest. I never understood why this man was so lionized by the media. He had family connections, sure, but there are lots of siblings of Big Important People™ that we never see. It is only this family that has every single member presented as some great and tragic hero or heroine. Odd.

I wish the family much peace in the coming days as they lay Ted to rest. I get the feeling, however, that the people who are actually writing these biographies in the media are the editors, supervisors, and older newsmen in the field, as the newer reporters/talking heads don't seem to have as much knowledge about him as they do other folks.

445 MandyManners  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 4:44:44am

I'm having trouble typing. I suspect that my WPM is too high for this keyboard.

446 Soona'  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 4:45:11am

re: #437 3 wood

Four Banks Dominate August Market in 'Dash for Trash'


You have a lot of free taxpayer money shoveled into those firms.

It all sounds like marching orders from the WH. "Make the NYSE look good for awhile, anyway".

447 soxfan4life  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 4:45:14am

re: #439 MandyManners

Was it Connecticut or Massachusetts where the big-wigs shut down the idea of windmills?

MA it was off of the Cape and both Senators did their best to stop it. Alot of union construction guys would have gone back to work, and the unions will still will blindly support both Kerry and whoever the Dems put in Teddy's seat.

448 CapeCoddah  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 4:46:07am

re: #435 MandyManners

What made him think he could get away with that? The seemingly genetic hubris of the Kennedy men?

Yes. It was the mental deficiency claim that sunk him. He had no grounds whatsoever to ask for annulment. That HE was the cheat, left his wife and children, then tried to say SHE was mentally deficient, when it was said because it was the only reason he MIGHT be able to make stick, (since he abandoned the family, not her) really pissed everyone off. She was no where NEAR mentally deficient. He just said anything he had too to get the annulment, so he could marry the homewrecker in the church. The hypocrisy was too much, even for the moonbat libs in Massachusetts.

449 vxbush  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 4:46:28am

re: #445 MandyManners

I'm having trouble typing. I suspect that my WPM is too high for this keyboard.

Try smoke signals. Or Morse. Of course, I won't be able to understand...

450 CapeCoddah  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 4:46:58am

re: #439 MandyManners

Was it Connecticut or Massachusetts where the big-wigs shut down the idea of windmills?

Had to be CT, they are going to destroy Nantucket Sound any time now with the goddamned things.

451 soxfan4life  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 4:47:27am

re: #445 MandyManners

I'm having trouble typing. I suspect that my WPM is too high for this keyboard.


I will never suffer from that particular problem.

452 MandyManners  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 4:48:16am

re: #447 soxfan4life

MA it was off of the Cape and both Senators did their best to stop it. Alot of union construction guys would have gone back to work, and the unions will still will blindly support both Kerry and whoever the Dems put in Teddy's seat.

Someone has to be paying off the heads of the unions to keep on backing these idiots.

453 srb1976  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 4:48:30am

re: #445 MandyManners

I'm having trouble typing. I suspect that my WPM is too high for this keyboard.

I'm going to have to remember that! Makes a great excuse for not being able to type worth a damn some days = )

454 soxfan4life  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 4:49:31am

re: #452 MandyManners

Corruption between Democrats and Union Chiefs, who would have ever thought.///

455 3 wood  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 4:49:47am

Index Shows an Improvement in Home Prices

In a convincing sign that the worst housing slump of modern times is coming to an end, prices are starting to rise in nearly all of the nation’s large cities.

The trend, displayed in newly released data for June, is both pronounced and wide-ranging. It is affecting the high-priced coastal cities, with a 3.8 percent jump for the month in San Francisco and a 2.6 percent rise in Boston; the industrial Midwest, with Cleveland prices up 4.2 percent; and even the epicenter of the crash, the Sun Belt, with Phoenix homes up 1.1 percent. These numbers are not seasonally adjusted.

Eighteen of the 20 cities tracked by Standard & Poor’s Case-Shiller Home Price Index showed improvement in June, up from eight in May, four in April and only one in March.


Nice news to see, but proceed with caution. Keep in mind that the Fed has been shoveling money into the banks as fast as they can.

Let's see what happens to the demand for houses when the shoveling slows down.

456 BlackFedora  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 4:50:39am

re: #16 pat

If you actually welcome someone's passage... umm... you've written yourself in the "I'm an a**hole book" if you ask me. There are some things you just don't do and in my book one of them is being jubilant about somebody dying. That's simply cold and frankly a pathetic attempt seem more conservative than thou.

457 MandyManners  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 4:51:27am

re: #448 CapeCoddah

Yes. It was the mental deficiency claim that sunk him. He had no grounds whatsoever to ask for annulment. That HE was the cheat, left his wife and children, then tried to say SHE was mentally deficient, when it was said because it was the only reason he MIGHT be able to make stick, (since he abandoned the family, not her) really pissed everyone off. She was no where NEAR mentally deficient. He just said anything he had too to get the annulment, so he could marry the homewrecker in the church. The hypocrisy was too much, even for the moonbat libs in Massachusetts.

I wonder what their sons think of those dirty tricks.

Interesting that he earned the nickname "Dirty Joe" while still a minor. I reckon that was an appropriate one.

458 soxfan4life  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 4:52:06am

re: #455 3 wood

A 2.6% rise in Boston with almost double digit unemployment, and counting those who have come off the books after running out of benefits definitely over 10% seems a little fishy to me.

459 vxbush  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 4:52:10am

re: #457 MandyManners

I wonder what their sons think of those dirty tricks.

Interesting that he earned the nickname "Dirty Joe" while still a minor. I reckon that was an appropriate one.

The fact that the church went along bothers me a great deal more.

460 MandyManners  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 4:52:13am

re: #449 vxbush

Try smoke signals. Or Morse. Of course, I won't be able to understand...

I think it's the keyboard, the same one I spilled coffee on a while back.

461 MandyManners  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 4:53:21am

re: #459 vxbush

The fact that the church went along bothers me a great deal more.

From Wiki, the Vatican refused to go along with it and the annulment is void.

462 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 4:53:29am

re: #455 3 wood

Index Shows an Improvement in Home Prices


Nice news to see, but proceed with caution. Keep in mind that the Fed has been shoveling money into the banks as fast as they can.

Let's see what happens to the demand for houses when the shoveling slows down.

ARGH. And just when I'm on the edge of being able to buy a home, too. No offense, but this is the last thing I, as a new entry into the home buying market, wanted to see.

463 MandyManners  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 4:53:36am

Gotta' go pry The Kid outta' bed.

464 vxbush  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 4:53:44am

re: #460 MandyManners

I think it's the keyboard, the same one I spilled coffee on a while back.

Ah. May I recommend a new keyboard then? Unless it's a newer Dell model. Those seem to have a nice set up to mostly protect the electronic stuff within the keyboard should liquid accidently fall on it. Of course, if you pour a liter of water on it, it's not going to work anymore.

465 vxbush  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 4:54:08am

re: #461 MandyManners

From Wiki, the Vatican refused to go along with it and the annulment is void.

Ah. Thanks for the correction. I was worried there.

466 CapeCoddah  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 4:54:46am

re: #457 MandyManners

I wonder what their sons think of those dirty tricks.

Interesting that he earned the nickname "Dirty Joe" while still a minor. I reckon that was an appropriate one.

Not sure, you never see those kids. I know what I would think, and do as I was in a similar situation with my parents, only it was my mother. My mother fraudulently applied for and was given an annulment. Only accused my father of desertion, when SHE had left, divorced and forcibly kept him away. I have a pretty good idea of what Joe's son's think, that is if THEY have any moral fiber in them.

467 TheMatrix31  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 4:55:42am

Moving to Texas, eh SoxFan?

I'm so jealous of you.

468 Coracle  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 4:56:01am

re: #335 Jim in Virginia

Morniing all. What happened to our global warming induced hurricane season? Three simultaneous storms, then Pffft!

This season is predicted to be low-to-normal due to the effect of El Nino.

469 soxfan4life  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 4:57:41am

re: #467 TheMatrix31

Moving to Texas, eh SoxFan?

I'm so jealous of you.

Got to go where the work is. Can't say I will miss the winters in MA though.

470 soxfan4life  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 4:58:34am

re: #469 soxfan4life

Got to go where the work is. Can't say I will miss the winters in MA though.

Or the politics.

471 1SG(ret)  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 4:58:38am

I have a pretty good idea of what Joe's son's think, that is if THEY have any moral fiber in them. They are Kennedys, so that should clear up that question.

472 3 wood  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 4:58:46am

Heading out to work.

Speaking of which, it look's like I will soon be joining the army of the unemployed. My department is being eliminated in a budget consolidation move. Our Dept. Director got let go a couple weeks ago. I got "the phone call" yesterday to set an appointment with the management empty suits to hear them tell me how hard it is for them to do this and tell me what my severance benefits are. That meeting will happen on Monday (last day of the month and pay period, by some odd coincidence).

So, if you notice that I have very little patience for the shameless cheerleading and spinning by some around here about how Obama has supposedly "turned around" the economy, I hope you will understand.

Later.

473 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 4:58:55am

re: #469 soxfan4life

Got to go where the work is. Can't say I will miss the winters in MA though.

Didn't see snow 'til I was 30. They can keep it.

474 MandyManners  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 4:59:01am

re: #464 vxbush

Ah. May I recommend a new keyboard then? Unless it's a newer Dell model. Those seem to have a nice set up to mostly protect the electronic stuff within the keyboard should liquid accidently fall on it. Of course, if you pour a liter of water on it, it's not going to work anymore.

It's a COMPAQ/HP. The thing is, I'm accustomed to this thing and I'll hate to have to learn a new one.

Ah, bitch, piss, moan and grumble.

475 MandyManners  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 4:59:49am

re: #465 vxbush

Ah. Thanks for the correction. I was worried there.

He still has a chance to appeal.

476 CapeCoddah  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 5:00:04am

re: #470 soxfan4life

Or the politics.

I don't know how much longer I can take it here, but the thought of laving the home I have always loved so much terrifies me. I dont know how I could survive away from the Cape. It is a vital part of who I am.

477 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 5:00:49am

re: #474 MandyManners

It's a COMPAQ/HP. The thing is, I'm accustomed to this thing and I'll hate to have to learn a new one.

Ah, bitch, piss, moan and grumble.

Lately I've been favoring Logitech for my input peripherals. They're solid pieces and they can keep up with me (I'm an extremely fast typer and a twitch-gamer on the side).

478 soxfan4life  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 5:00:50am

re: #475 MandyManners

He still has a chance to appeal.

I don't think Joe is appealing to anyone.

479 MandyManners  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 5:01:00am

re: #466 CapeCoddah

Not sure, you never see those kids. I know what I would think, and do as I was in a similar situation with my parents, only it was my mother. My mother fraudulently applied for and was given an annulment. Only accused my father of desertion, when SHE had left, divorced and forcibly kept him away. I have a pretty good idea of what Joe's son's think, that is if THEY have any moral fiber in them.

Maybe the hubris will skip a generation.

480 SasquatchOnSteroids  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 5:01:05am

Farmers issue warning after fatal cow attacks

LONDON (Reuters) – The deaths of no fewer than four people after being trampled by cows in the past two months has prompted Britain's main farming union to issue a warning about the dangers of provoking the normally docile animals.

Cows can become aggressive and charge, especially when calves are present and walkers are accompanied by dogs, said the National Farmers Union (NFU).

The union and the Ramblers' Association both advise that walkers release dogs from their leads when passing through a field of cows.

Don't provoke the cows, don't feed the cows, and above all, do NOT tip the cows.

481 vxbush  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 5:01:10am

re: #472 3 wood

Heading out to work.

Speaking of which, it look's like I will soon be joining the army of the unemployed. My department is being eliminated in a budget consolidation move. Our Dept. Director got let go a couple weeks ago. I got "the phone call" yesterday to set an appointment with the management empty suits to hear them tell me how hard it is for them to do this and tell me what my severance benefits are. That meeting will happen on Monday (last day of the month and pay period, by some odd coincidence).

So, if you notice that I have very little patience for the shameless cheerleading and spinning by some around here about how Obama has supposedly "turned around" the economy, I hope you will understand.

Later.

Yikes. I'll try to email you later about this, when I get back home later this week.

482 vxbush  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 5:02:02am

re: #479 MandyManners

Maybe the hubris will skip a generation.

Wouldn't that be nice? How refreshing that would be!

483 MandyManners  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 5:02:07am

re: #477 thedopefishlives

Lately I've been favoring Logitech for my input peripherals. They're solid pieces and they can keep up with me (I'm an extremely fast typer and a twitch-gamer on the side).

What's a twitch-gamer?

484 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 5:02:35am

re: #483 MandyManners

What's a twitch-gamer?

Someone who plays twitch games; think first-person shooters and all those violent video games Jack Thompson warned us about.

485 Danny  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 5:02:36am

Bran flakes with banana and hot coffee. Mmmm.

486 MandyManners  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 5:02:42am

re: #478 soxfan4life

I don't think Joe is appealing to anyone.

He's not bad looking but, a pretty face cannot forever hide an ugly heart.

487 SasquatchOnSteroids  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 5:02:48am

re: #472 3 wood

I'm sorry to hear that, 3 wood, but seems like someone with your talents won't be unemployed long.
Best of luck to you.

488 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 5:02:50am

re: #483 MandyManners

What's a twitch-gamer?

It's for Meth heads.
/

489 CapeCoddah  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 5:02:51am

re: #475 MandyManners

He still has a chance to appeal.

Any appeal with this new Pope will absolutely fall on deaf ears. This guy is a law and order catholic.

490 Truck Monkey  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 5:03:04am

re: #472 3 wood

I always look forward to seeing your posts. I wish you all the best.

491 Joshua Cohen  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 5:03:58am

So we knew now who spend these $4.6 million on that graveside over Marylin? Rest in peace Kennedy! I am still fed up with funerals (was at one yesterday). So people please forgive me my sarcasm.

492 MandyManners  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 5:04:13am

re: #482 vxbush

Wouldn't that be nice? How refreshing that would be!

Was Maria's brother free from it or, was that the mentality that lead him to his final flight?

493 CapeCoddah  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 5:04:54am

re: #479 MandyManners

Maybe the hubris will skip a generation.

Don't hold your breath. The hubris is strong in that family. (No star wars jokes, Please)

494 vxbush  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 5:05:08am

Okay. Gotta go; a lot to do today.

495 MandyManners  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 5:06:26am

re: #484 thedopefishlives

Someone who plays twitch games; think first-person shooters and all those violent video games Jack Thompson warned us about.

Grand Theft Auto's genre?

496 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 5:06:54am

Morning everyone!

497 MandyManners  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 5:06:57am

re: #485 Danny

Bran flakes with banana and hot coffee. Mmmm.

Two fudge brownies and a cup of coffee.

498 MandyManners  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 5:07:20am

bbiab

499 CapeCoddah  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 5:08:24am

re: #492 MandyManners

Was Maria's brother free from it or, was that the mentality that lead him to his final flight?

re: #492 MandyManners

Was Maria's brother free from it or, was that the mentality that lead him to his final flight?

You mean Carolines brother, John Jr.?

500 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 5:09:07am

re: #495 MandyManners

Grand Theft Auto's genre?

Never actually played it or anything like it. The phrase was meant more as a joke, as Jack Thompson is somewhat of a git.

501 CapeCoddah  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 5:09:11am

FBV!!! HI!

502 BlueCanuck  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 5:09:27am

Good morning all. I see that Sen(D) Kennedy has died. That will be all I have to say on that. Other then I hope his passing was without too much pain.

503 SasquatchOnSteroids  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 5:09:52am

re: #494 vxbush

Okay. Gotta go; a lot to do today.

Same here. Gotta get to work so I can log back on while getting paid.
/sorta

504 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 5:10:09am

re: #16 pat

Nah... that was plenty un-becoming.

505 opnion  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 5:10:46am

RIP Senator Kennedy. He is the only of the four brothers to die of natural causes. Joe Jr. Jack & Bobby all died violent deaths.
This is the end of an era, the current Kenndys have not captured the imgination of the Nation or the MSM.

506 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 5:11:25am

Regarding Senator Kennedy, first RIP.

Second, I am glad that he did not live to see the America that he envisioned.

That is not a harsh statement, and I hope it is not read wrong.

507 soxfan4life  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 5:11:35am

re: #499 CapeCoddah

You mean Carolines brother, John Jr.?

I don't think John John ever had much of a chance, being in the public eye from such a young age. As much as his mother tried to shield him it just didn't seem to help. Hopefully he found the peace in death he was never allowed to enjoy in life.

508 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 5:12:14am

re: #507 soxfan4life

The only human, in history, born to a "President-Elect".

509 CapeCoddah  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 5:13:11am

re: #506 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Regarding Senator Kennedy, first RIP.

Second, I am glad that he did not live to see the America that he envisioned.

That is not a harsh statement, and I hope it is not read wrong.

Well stated.

510 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 5:15:02am

re: #506 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Regarding Senator Kennedy, first RIP.

Second, I am glad that he did not live to see the America that he envisioned.

That is not a harsh statement, and I hope it is not read wrong.

I just heard his remark about that on NPR and I thought the same thing. It's not harsh. He's dead, that doesn't mean you have to suddenly agree with him. I'm already tired of hearing his stupid voice. Is Jackson still dead?

511 CapeCoddah  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 5:15:35am

re: #505 opnion


"This is the end of an era, the current Kenndys have not captured the imgination of the Nation or the MSM.

Thank the good lord, profusely.

512 opnion  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 5:16:38am

re: #511 CapeCoddah

"This is the end of an era, the current Kenndys have not captured the imgination of the Nation or the MSM.

Thank the good lord, profusely.

Agreed.

513 MandyManners  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 5:18:12am

re: #499 CapeCoddah

You mean Carolines brother, John Jr.?

Yes. I have a hard time keeping up with all those Kennedys.

514 BlueCanuck  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 5:18:19am

re: #510 Walter L. Newton

*snicker* Was playing an online game the other night when the autopsy report came out. Came out with the line, "Breaking News: Michael Jackson is still dead". The forum was floored with laughter.

515 Beach Lover  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 5:18:58am

Morning, Lizards. Thought I would feel different about the death of Ted. Prayers for his family, cause he obviously was very much loved by them. That being said, I hope this doesnt turn into another Wellstone moment. The Democrat party needs to step it up and show some class with this one.
Question for those here from MA...
who is in line to run for his seat? And is there any chance it could be a seat lost for the Dems?

516 MandyManners  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 5:19:20am

re: #500 thedopefishlives

Never actually played it or anything like it. The phrase was meant more as a joke, as Jack Thompson is somewhat of a git.

I don't know him.

517 Cheesehead  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 5:20:01am

Five years ago this month my Mom was diagnosed with the same brain cancer that killed Sen. Kennedy, a malignant stage four Glioma. Thirty days later she died. The only merciful thing about this type of cancer is that the person doesn't linger long to suffer. My sincere condolences to the Kennedy family.

518 BlueCanuck  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 5:20:32am

Well, I see the racism card is being played again. Up here actually. Apparently the Canadian Feds are racist for not backing Khadr's return from Gitmo

OTTAWA - The Harper government is denying an accusation that its latest bid to avoid bringing former child soldier Omar Khadr home from a U.S. military prison smacks of racism.

Critics pounced Tuesday on news that the government will seek to appeal to the Supreme Court the latest court ruling ordering Ottawa to request Khadr's return from Guantanamo Bay.

"It doesn't surprise me," said Dennis Edney, one of Khadr's lawyers.

"The Harper government is a mean-spirited government that picks and chooses which Canadians it should help and represent. And Omar Khadr, being a person of colour, doesn't fit into that list.

"It's very clear that there are racial overtones in dealing with Omar Khadr and other Canadian citizens who have been in trouble abroad

[snip]

519 CapeCoddah  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 5:21:01am

re: #513 MandyManners

Yes. I have a hard time keeping up with all those Kennedys.

It was John Jr. who in his magazine called his uncles and cousins "poster boy's for bad behavior". Google the phrase.

520 soxfan4life  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 5:21:28am

re: #515 Beach Lover

Morning, Lizards. Thought I would feel different about the death of Ted. Prayers for his family, cause he obviously was very much loved by them. That being said, I hope this doesnt turn into another Wellstone moment. The Democrat party needs to step it up and show some class with this one.
Question for those here from MA...
who is in line to run for his seat? And is there any chance it could be a seat lost for the Dems?

Apparently the leadership of the state legislature is all in line to let the Gov appoint a replacement. So a good partyline toeing lib will sit there until the next election. And most likely beyond.

521 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 5:21:33am

re: #516 MandyManners

I don't know him.

I don't know him personally either, but he has a general disfavor with the gaming community as a whole because of his penchant for running around and suing the pants off of every gaming company in existence for "corrupting our children". While I don't disagree that games can be a bad influence on kids, that's the parents' job, not the gaming companys'.

522 MandyManners  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 5:22:25am

re: #506 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Regarding Senator Kennedy, first RIP.

Second, I am glad that he did not live to see the America that he envisioned.

That is not a harsh statement, and I hope it is not read wrong.

Would he have really seen it? The super-rich--especially those in politics--are not affected by a nation's slide into socialism.

523 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 5:22:46am

re: #518 BlueCanuck
Huh. I thought only Americans were racist?

524 MandyManners  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 5:23:03am

re: #519 CapeCoddah

It was John Jr. who in his magazine called his uncles and cousins "poster boy's for bad behavior". Google the phrase.

I loved George.

525 MandyManners  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 5:23:18am

Gotta' git.

526 opnion  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 5:23:47am

re: #518 BlueCanuck

Well, I see the racism card is being played again. Up here actually. Apparently the Canadian Feds are racist for not backing Khadr's return from Gitmo


[snip]


Gotta be racism. Just can't have anything to do with the fact that the kid is a terrorist,

527 CapeCoddah  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 5:24:59am

re: #519 CapeCoddah

It was John Jr. who in his magazine called his uncles and cousins "poster boy's for bad behavior". Google the phrase.

Correction, cousins, not uncles.

528 soxfan4life  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 5:24:59am

re: #523 Cannadian Club Akbar

Huh. I thought only Americans were racist?

Only Americans who are Republican. No good liberal while supporting Affirmitive Action or racial quotas and every other policy like that could ever be accused of being a racist.

529 Beach Lover  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 5:25:13am

re: #520 soxfan4life
I thought Kennedy himself was responsible with changing the law in 2004 because if Kerry won then Romney would appoint his replacement. Now they have tried to reverse it in recent days, but heard that a special election must be held in a few months to get his replacement.
No appointment.

530 laZardo  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 5:25:24am

Back.

Debating on the NHS with a British IMer friend of mine from way back. Fun times.

531 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 5:25:50am

re: #522 MandyManners

Would he have really seen it? The super-rich--especially those in politics--are not affected by a nation's slide into socialism.

Yep. He would have made sure that he had "Lord of the Manor" status to watch his little esnes.

532 soxfan4life  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 5:27:33am

re: #529 Beach Lover

I thought Kennedy himself was responsible with changing the law in 2004 because if Kerry won then Romney would appoint his replacement. Now they have tried to reverse it in recent days, but heard that a special election must be held in a few months to get his replacement.
No appointment.

Both Speaker DeLeo and Senate President Murray are in favor of letting Gov Patrick appoint a replacement, so laws or the will of the populace will take a back seat to politics and maintaining the Democrat 60 seat majority.

533 CapeCoddah  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 5:28:52am

re: #529 Beach Lover

I thought Kennedy himself was responsible with changing the law in 2004 because if Kerry won then Romney would appoint his replacement. Now they have tried to reverse it in recent days, but heard that a special election must be held in a few months to get his replacement.
No appointment.

He was, and it was a letter written by Kennedy to the governor a short time ago asking to change it back. Pure corruption and gerrymandering of the law to suit the needs and ensure the continuity of the corrupt Massachusetts political machine. ALL democrats, without a single exception.

534 FrogMarch  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 5:28:59am

Good morning!

535 CapeCoddah  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 5:29:34am

re: #532 soxfan4life

Both Speaker DeLeo and Senate President Murray are in favor of letting Gov Patrick appoint a replacement, so laws or the will of the populace will take a back seat to politics and maintaining the Democrat 60 seat majority.

Exactly.

536 Danny  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 5:30:24am

re: #534 FrogMarch

Mornin'

537 BlueCanuck  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 5:30:35am

re: #523 Cannadian Club Akbar

re: #526 opnion

Heh, digging through the comments left by other yahoo subscribers. So far there are far more in agreement with leaving him there to face charges then bringing him back to Canada. The Khadr family is notorious here in Toronto. Welfare immigrants that play the pity and racism card often. Doesn't matter that the father and son were involved in Afghanistan. The trouble is that some media outlets give them a microphone to spew their false charges against the west.

538 Beach Lover  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 5:30:57am

The other side issue, with his death, the Senate Dems no longer have the filibuster proof majority. Just in case they had visions of ramming this health care bill through on straight party line vote. Now, its either Schummers way with simple majority or it is done until the seat is filled (providing it's another Dem that wins the seat).
Obama has reason to be sad on many levels today.

539 1SG(ret)  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 5:31:07am

I'm sure his last minutes on this earth were more pleasant than those of Mary Jo's. Judgement day!

Work calls!

540 CapeCoddah  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 5:31:17am

re: #534 FrogMarch

Good morning!

good morning!

541 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 5:31:35am

re: #532 soxfan4life

Both Speaker DeLeo and Senate President Murray are in favor of letting Gov Patrick appoint a replacement, so laws or the will of the populace will take a back seat to politics and maintaining the Democrat 60 seat majority.

So... Romney's out of the question?
/

542 CapeCoddah  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 5:31:53am

re: #541 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

So... Romney's out of the question?
/

LOL

543 soxfan4life  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 5:32:16am

re: #535 CapeCoddah

How soon until DeLeo follows his predecessors into the big house.

544 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 5:32:32am

re: #534 FrogMarch

Good morning!

Morning... 52 up here this morning. How's the valley?

545 WinstonChurchill  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 5:32:38am

As a politician, Tedward was a despicable, below the belt street fighter who wanted nothing more than the destruction of capitalism and democracy as we know it.

As a person- well, rest in peace.

546 opnion  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 5:32:59am

I hope that this speculation is not in bad taste, but my guess is that the Obama Administration will exploit the death of Senator Kennedy for political reasons.
I will bet that we will here that passing healtcare reform is a gift to the Senator & he wanted a public option.

547 Beach Lover  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 5:33:27am

re: #532 soxfan4life

Both Speaker DeLeo and Senate President Murray are in favor of letting Gov Patrick appoint a replacement, so laws or the will of the populace will take a back seat to politics and maintaining the Democrat 60 seat majority.

amazing.

548 CapeCoddah  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 5:33:29am

Not real sure I would want Romney either, but He would be the lesser of evils. Don't forget, Romney forced all of Mass residents to buy health care insurance. I still have not done it, and will be damned if the government will force me too.

549 soxfan4life  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 5:33:36am

re: #541 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

So... Romney's out of the question?
/

Isn't he living in NV so he can run against Harry Reid?

550 Danny  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 5:34:08am

re: #546 opnion

That's a given (I don't consider the observation disrespectful, either).

551 CapeCoddah  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 5:34:35am

re: #543 soxfan4life

How soon until DeLeo follows his predecessors into the big house.

Well, he is a Massachusetts speaker of the house, should not be long. What are we up to now, 4 in a row convicted felon speakers?

552 laZardo  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 5:34:42am

re: #548 CapeCoddah

I thought Romney was Utah-an.

553 opnion  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 5:35:10am

re: #537 BlueCanuck

re: #526 opnion

Heh, digging through the comments left by other yahoo subscribers. So far there are far more in agreement with leaving him there to face charges then bringing him back to Canada. The Khadr family is notorious here in Toronto. Welfare immigrants that play the pity and racism card often. Doesn't matter that the father and son were involved in Afghanistan. The trouble is that some media outlets give them a microphone to spew their false charges against the west.

THe Media loves to guiltthe populace.

554 CapeCoddah  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 5:35:11am

re: #546 opnion

I hope that this speculation is not in bad taste, but my guess is that the Obama Administration will exploit the death of Senator Kennedy for political reasons.
I will bet that we will here that passing healtcare reform is a gift to the Senator & he wanted a public option.

Ya think??

555 soxfan4life  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 5:35:15am

re: #548 CapeCoddah

Not real sure I would want Romney either, but He would be the lesser of evils. Don't forget, Romney forced all of Mass residents to buy health care insurance. I still have not done it, and will be damned if the government will force me too.

Romney had no choice and worked out the best deal he could with the state legislature. Sure he took the credit for it in hopes of propping up a Presidential campaign, but the legislature was going to pass one regardless.

556 opnion  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 5:35:58am

re: #550 Danny

That's a given (I don't consider the observation disrespectful, either).

Thanks

557 soxfan4life  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 5:36:11am

re: #551 CapeCoddah

Wouldn't want to break tradition now would we?

558 FrogMarch  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 5:36:35am

re: #544 Walter L. Newton

Morning... 52 up here this morning. How's the valley?

Feels like somewhere in the 50s. The house is nice and cool after a night of open windows.

559 wahabicorridor  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 5:36:43am

re: #545 WinstonChurchill

As a politician, Tedward was a despicable, below the belt street fighter who wanted nothing more than the destruction of capitalism and democracy as we know it.

As a person- well, rest in peace.

I don't like his political philosophy either. But I'll tell you something you may not know about him. My first husband was from the northeast Pennsylvania coal country. That area of the stae has a lot of families who immigrated from what became Soviet-ruled countries. Many of them tried to get families out from behind the Iron Curtain. Their congressman at the time was a man named Dan Flood. They always went to Flood for help. Who did Flood go to?

Ted Kennedy. Between the two of them, they rescued literally hundreds of people from Soviet Communism.

560 CapeCoddah  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 5:36:55am

re: #552 laZardo

I thought Romney was Utah-an.

He was Massachusetts Governor,, gotta live here to do that. He was native Utah. He moved out of Mass a couple of years ago.

561 opnion  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 5:37:10am

re: #554 CapeCoddah

Ya think??

I think that the explotation of this death will get shameless.

562 Spider Mensch  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 5:37:36am

I wonder if anyone will put a bottle of Chivas Regal in the box with teddy..I had heard somewhere that was his drink of choice..

563 CapeCoddah  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 5:37:38am

re: #555 soxfan4life

Romney had no choice and worked out the best deal he could with the state legislature. Sure he took the credit for it in hopes of propping up a Presidential campaign, but the legislature was going to pass one regardless.

Got that, but I wish he had not pt his name on it.

564 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 5:37:40am

re: #559 wahabicorridor

Cool story. Thanks.

565 _RememberTonyC  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 5:38:27am

I grew up in Massachusetts and voted for Senator Kennedy in my younger days. In spite of his flaws and mistakes, he was always loved by the people in Massachusetts. Much of that had to do with the fact that his two older brothers died in the most tragic of ways. I think he benefitted from a "halo effect" due to the sorrow over the assassination of JFK and RFK. I am sorry to hear of his passing.

566 CapeCoddah  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 5:38:37am

re: #557 soxfan4life

Wouldn't want to break tradition now would we?

Lord, that is one tradition I would love to see abandoned.

567 BlueCanuck  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 5:38:46am

re: #553 opnion

THe Media loves to guiltthe populace.

Oh, they are trying in this instance. Fortunately it's not working too well for the left. One of our news stations did an "expose" on the family here. The cries of outrage was wonderous. Most people believe in Khadr's guilt and don't want him here. All we have to do is hope that the next government doesn't bring him back.

Best part is that the cries of racist are going against the Conservative government. Most people have forgotten that the Liberals refused to have any thing to do with the case first. Of course the Liberals always get a pass for some reason.

568 soxfan4life  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 5:39:18am

re: #563 CapeCoddah

Got that, but I wish he had not pt his name on it.

That is one quirk in MA I never understood. They vote strictly Democrat until it comes time to put a Gov in office.

569 WinstonChurchill  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 5:39:26am

re: #559 wahabicorridor

I don't like his political philosophy either. But I'll tell you something you may not know about him. My first husband was from the northeast Pennsylvania coal country. That area of the stae has a lot of families who immigrated from what became Soviet-ruled countries. Many of them tried to get families out from behind the Iron Curtain. Their congressman at the time was a man named Dan Flood. They always went to Flood for help. Who did Flood go to?

Ted Kennedy. Between the two of them, they rescued literally hundreds of people from Soviet Communism.

See wahabi? You've given me a reason to mourn him! God bless ya!

570 BlueCanuck  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 5:41:00am

re: #569 WinstonChurchill

No matter what his habits or philosophy was, at least he has done some good in this world. I think that almost makes up for most of his past sins.

571 soxfan4life  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 5:41:13am

re: #569 WinstonChurchill

See wahabi? You've given me a reason to mourn him! God bless ya!

Given today's politicians I'd take a Senate full of people who stood as strongly behind their convictions as Teddy did.

572 opnion  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 5:41:15am

re: #567 BlueCanuck

Oh, they are trying in this instance. Fortunately it's not working too well for the left. One of our news stations did an "expose" on the family here. The cries of outrage was wonderous. Most people believe in Khadr's guilt and don't want him here. All we have to do is hope that the next government doesn't bring him back.

Best part is that the cries of racist are going against the Conservative government. Most people have forgotten that the Liberals refused to have any thing to do with the case first. Of course the Liberals always get a pass for some reason.

I have always thought that the race card is played when the debate is lost. In many ways the term is the last refuge of a scoundrel.

573 KernelPanic  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 5:41:29am

re: #554 CapeCoddah

Ya think??

I spent a few minutes thinking this way as well when I heard the news (I'm a MA resident). However, I don't think it will play out that way. Teddy is in the same league as Pelosi and Hillary when it comes to raising the ire of the republican base. Any attempt to use Kennedy as an icon for pushing healthcare reform will cause more backlash than its worth. Just my $.02 though.

574 CapeCoddah  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 5:41:46am

re: #568 soxfan4life

That is one quirk in MA I never understood. They vote strictly Democrat until it comes time to put a Gov in office.

Most of the time. They fell asleep at the switch last election. But, then, there really was no candidate on either side, last time, and we ended up with cadillac.

575 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 5:42:22am

re: #571 soxfan4life

Given today's politicians I'd take a Senate full of people who stood as strongly behind their convictions as Teddy did.

You know, this is a point I wish was made more often. Like him or hate him, at least Ted Kennedy was someone where you KNEW where he stood.

576 soxfan4life  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 5:42:57am

re: #574 CapeCoddah

Most of the time. They fell asleep at the switch last election. But, then, there really was no candidate on either side, last time, and we ended up with cadillac.

Do you think Cadillac will get reelected?

577 Spenser (with an S)  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 5:43:43am

re: #560 CapeCoddah

re: #552 laZardo

I thought Romney was Utah-an.

He was Massachusetts Governor,, gotta live here to do that. He was native Utah. He moved out of Mass a couple of years ago.

Morning, both of you. Romney is a Mormon, but he was born here in MI. His dad was our gov in the 60's and ran for President too.

578 CapeCoddah  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 5:45:22am

re: #573 KernelPanic

I spent a few minutes thinking this way as well when I heard the news (I'm a MA resident). However, I don't think it will play out that way. Teddy is in the same league as Pelosi and Hillary when it comes to raising the ire of the republican base. Any attempt to use Kennedy as an icon for pushing healthcare reform will cause more backlash than its worth. Just my $.02 though.

Teddy is the brother of two beloved, assassinated men. He survived politically on that for almost half a century. Believe me, this drum will be beaten long and loud.
The democrats will shamelessly wring every drop of press they can get out of this. Ted would want it that way, he was one of them, and that was how he worked also. Ted never shied away from using his brothers when it suited his needs.

579 CapeCoddah  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 5:46:24am

re: #576 soxfan4life

Do you think Cadillac will get reelected?

Cadillac cold not get elected to dog catcher again. Even the Dems are pissed at him.

580 CapeCoddah  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 5:47:17am

re: #577 Spenser (with an S)

Morning, both of you. Romney is a Mormon, but he was born here in MI. His dad was our gov in the 60's and ran for President too.

yep, you are right.

581 WinstonChurchill  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 5:48:32am

Compare LGF's discussions of Tedward's passing to the Koskids (or any lefty-nut site) discussion when Ronald Reagan died. If there is anything that shows the higher character of our side, its that!

582 keithgabryelski  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 5:49:37am

Farewell Teddy.

583 soxfan4life  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 5:49:44am

re: #579 CapeCoddah

Cadillac cold not get elected to dog catcher again. Even the Dems are pissed at him.

But if Cahill throws his hat in the ring he could split the vote enough to allow Deval a 2nd term. Remember Dianne Wilkerson got alot of votes and Sal Dimasi got reelected despite being indicted on corruption charges. That D next to his name is like a giant Superman cape.

584 Killian Bundy  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 5:50:17am

Secretary of State Hillary Clinton hunting digs for Libyan dictator Moammar Khadafy for UN visit

Hillary Clinton likes to remind people, including her husband, that she's the secretary of state, but her role has now expanded to became the hotel booking agent for screwy Libyan dictator Moammar Khadafy.

The State Department was desperately trying to avoid an international incident by finding Khadafy a place in the city so he doesn't put down stakes, literally, by pitching a tent in Englewood, N.J.

"We are involved in discussions" on the Khadafy dilemma, said State Department spokesman Ian Kelly.

"We, of course, are sensitive to the concerns" of whoever might have to share the neighborhood with Khadafy, Kelly said, adding, "No decision has been made ... regarding where he will stay."

/what's the problem, don't they have any landfills in New Jersey?

585 BlueCanuck  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 5:50:43am

re: #581 WinstonChurchill

That's because we have proper restraint. I am sure that some of us are biting their tongues and using restraint with the keyboards.

586 laZardo  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 5:51:22am

re: #581 WinstonChurchill

Compare LGF's discussions of Tedward's passing to the Koskids (or any lefty-nut site) discussion when Ronald Reagan died. If there is anything that shows the higher character of our side, its that!

I live in the Philippines, and Ronald Reagan's support of the dictator (and said dictator's opulent wife) that drove this country into the ground did not exactly make me one of those that really mourned him, mind.

587 BlueCanuck  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 5:51:37am

re: #584 Killian Bundy

Secretary of State Hillary Clinton hunting digs for Libyan dictator Moammar Khadafy for UN visit


/what's the problem, don't they have any landfills in New Jersey?

Even seagulls have standards...

588 _RememberTonyC  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 5:52:03am

Although everyone assumes that the people of Massachusetts will vote for a Democrat in the special election to replace Ted Kennedy, imagine what it would mean if even the people in Mass were annoyed enough about the Obama plans to elect a Republican in order to deny the POTUS his filibuster proof senate majority? If the people in Mass did elect a Republican to replace Kennedy, it would send shockwaves through the country and be a real wakeup call for the President and his far left minions.

589 CapeCoddah  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 5:52:21am

re: #583 soxfan4life

But if Cahill throws his hat in the ring he could split the vote enough to allow Deval a 2nd term. Remember Dianne Wilkerson got alot of votes and Sal Dimasi got reelected despite being indicted on corruption charges. That D next to his name is like a giant Superman cape.

Nah, decent republican challenger in Charlie Baker, and Christy Mihos, who is a client of mine. Christy ran a horrid campaign last time, but he would actually make a fine governor.

590 Spenser (with an S)  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 5:52:42am

re: #581 WinstonChurchill

Yep, even if some admin there had said "Listen, people. The whole world will be watching how we react to this today so, for one day only, please keep a lid on the mean & crazy!"... It wouldn't have worked.

591 Danny  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 5:53:00am

re: #584 Killian Bundy

Secretary of State Hillary Clinton hunting digs for Libyan dictator Moammar Khadafy for UN visit

/what's the problem, don't they have any landfills in New Jersey?

Well, she does have her Travelgate associates to help her.

592 soxfan4life  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 5:53:20am

re: #581 WinstonChurchill

I really think we need to quit being on sides and try being Americans. The crooks in office love all this back and forth bickering as it allows them to rob us blind because we are too busy pointing fingers and taking sides against our fellow Americans.

593 WinstonChurchill  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 5:53:38am

re: #586 laZardo

Yeah. Him and every other US president up to him unfortunately.

594 reloadingisnotahobby  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 5:54:45am

I very seldom agreed with T.K. but wish we(Conservatives) had
someone of his tenacity and drive on our side of the isle!
He provided some rather humerous moments in his career also
and will be sorely missed on the floor !
RIP Teddy Kennedy!
I'll be getting call to lower all my flags from the Govoners office!
It's allways a sobering task...

595 soxfan4life  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 5:55:45am

re: #589 CapeCoddah

Nah, decent republican challenger in Charlie Baker, and Christy Mihos, who is a client of mine. Christy ran a horrid campaign last time, but he would actually make a fine governor.

I would like to see Christy win the office. He sure shook things up when he was at the turnpike authority.

596 lurking faith  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 5:55:50am

re: #552 laZardo

I thought Romney was Utah-an.

Mormons live all over the country, you know.

Romney was born in Michigan, where his father was governor.

597 laZardo  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 5:56:35am

re: #596 lurking faith

He did help turn the Salt Lake City Winter Olympics finances around IIRC.

598 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 5:57:53am

(thread quote) When I was ten, my family moved to Downer’s Grove, Illinois. When I was twelve, I found them. — Emo Philips

I can hear his first words after they disappeared ... a plantive scream ... "THEY ARGONNE!"

Did he search Orland and sea? Did he trek across Des Plaines?
He was probably Loopy before it was over.

Betcha it was a downer for his family, 'cause they couldn't Hyde anymore.

/*Berwyn* into a foxhole, to escape Lizard wrath

599 Ojoe  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 5:58:38am

R.I.P. Mr. Kennedy.

At least you lived out your full life.

***

Now I am going to try and ignore, out of respect, the media circus I know is coming.

600 CapeCoddah  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 5:58:45am

re: #595 soxfan4life

I would like to see Christy win the office. He sure shook things up when he was at the turnpike authority.

Christy is the best guy for the job, but made himself look like a bumbling idiot last time. I hope he does it right this time, we need a man of his intelligence and honesty. Christy has a chain of convenience stores, and gas stations on the Cape. When Chavez pulled his crap a few years ago, Christy dumped the CITGO brand and went with a US supplier. He said he was going to, then did it, within weeks. Cost him a fortune to dump the contracts, too.

601 reloadingisnotahobby  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 5:59:05am

re: #597 laZardo

re: #598 pre-Boomer Marine brat

He did a great job on the Olympic mess/scandal...
I said scandal because that's what allot of it amounted to...

602 reloadingisnotahobby  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 6:00:20am

re: #598 pre-Boomer Marine brat

You woke up on the right side this morning eh?

603 CapeCoddah  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 6:00:52am

re: #599 Ojoe

R.I.P. Mr. Kennedy.

At least you lived out your full life.

***

Now I am going to try and ignore, out of respect, the media circus I know is coming.

Hubby and I gave out TV's to our daughters. We have a tiny one hidden in the kitchen, that we never turn on anymore. I will not see the media circus, but, instead shall be forced to live it, here, unless I dont go into Hyannis for a week, which is impossible.

604 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 6:01:23am

re: #602 reloadingisnotahobby

You woke up on the right side this morning eh?

*maniacal cackling*

605 soxfan4life  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 6:02:18am

On another note here is our stimulus money at work. 4,000 prisoners getting a $250 dollar check because they collect Social Security.


[Link: www.bostonherald.com...]

606 lurking faith  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 6:02:38am

re: #597 laZardo

You're correct; he ran that.
But I think he has spent most of his adult life in Massachussetts. He ran for governor right after the Olympics.

607 CapeCoddah  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 6:03:18am

re: #606 lurking faith

You're correct; he ran that.
But I think he has spent most of his adult life in Massachussetts. He ran for governor right after the Olympics.

Governor Romney raised his family in Massachusetts.

608 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 6:03:20am

re: #599 Ojoe

R.I.P. Mr. Kennedy.

At least you lived out your full life.

***

Now I am going to try and ignore, out of respect, the media circus ghoul performance I know is coming.

fify ...and it won't simply be of media creation.

609 BlueCanuck  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 6:04:45am

re: #604 pre-Boomer Marine brat

*maniacal cackling*

Batten down the hatches, reel in the sheets. It looks like we will be in for a big pun storm today folks.

/scrambles to find a portable thesaurus...

610 lincolntf  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 6:05:53am

re: #588 _RememberTonyC

Morning all.

You're right about that, Tony C., it would be a huge deal if a Republican won. I'll settle for any non-Kennedy, regardless of Party.
We've got to get rid of these hereditary seats. It's gone beyond a nostalgic affectation and become a real hindrance to the representative system.

611 Kenneth  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 6:05:57am

Oh goody! ///

Barack Obama on brink of deal for Middle East peace talks

• US to adopt much tougher line over Iran's nuclear ambitions
• Israel to freeze construction of settlements on West Bank
• France and Russia offer to host Middle East peace conference

Details of the breakthrough deal will be hammered out tomorrow in London, where the Israeli prime minister, Binyamin Netanyahu, is due to hold talks with the US special envoy, George Mitchell. Netanyahu met Gordon Brown today in Downing Street, where the two discussed both settlements and the Iranian nuclear programme.

Although the negotiations are being held in private, they have reached such an advanced stage that both France and Russia have approached the US offering to host a peace conference.

Obama has penciled in the announcement of his breakthrough for either a meeting of world leaders at the UN general assembly in New York in the week beginning 23 September or the G20 summit in Pittsburgh on 24-25 September.

The president, who plans to make his announcement flanked by Netanyahu and the Palestinian leader, Mahmoud Abbas – plus the leaders of as many Arab states as he can muster – hopes that a final peace agreement can be negotiated within two years, a timetable viewed as unrealistic by Middle East analysts.

Unrealistic? No shit.

612 Killian Bundy  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 6:05:59am

Obama to comment on Kennedy's death within the hour.

/ten bucks says he uses the statement to put in a gratuitous pitch for health care reform, as in "we must pass it for Teddy", a.k.a. the "Wellstone effect"

613 Spenser (with an S)  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 6:06:14am

re: #609 BlueCanuck

/scrambles to find a portable thesaurus

What's another word for thesaurus?

/not mine, but I don't know whose

614 reloadingisnotahobby  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 6:06:14am

re: #609 BlueCanuck

Thesaurus???
They been extinct for...Eons.

615 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 6:06:18am

re: #609 BlueCanuck

Batten down the hatches, reel in the sheets. It looks like we will be in for a big pun storm today folks.

/scrambles to find a portable thesaurus...

Ya' want O'Hare of the dog that bit me?

616 lurking faith  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 6:06:59am

So, I log in to the net, and see that Ted Kennedy has died.

Do I read the story? Do I turn on the tv? Do I go get the newspaper? No, I come straight here.

{lgf}

RIP, Senator. My sympathies to the family.

617 KenJen  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 6:07:32am

re: #610 lincolntf

Morning all.

You're right about that, Tony C., it would be a huge deal if a Republican won. I'll settle for any non-Kennedy, regardless of Party.
We've got to get rid of these hereditary seats. It's gone beyond a nostalgic affectation and become a real hindrance to the representative system.

Yep. And 47 years in the Senate is way to long IMHO. Term limits would be nice.

618 reloadingisnotahobby  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 6:07:33am

re: #614 reloadingisnotahobby

Thesaurus???
They been extinct for...Eons.

And even if they weren't...Their ...like...HUGE DUDE!!

619 CapeCoddah  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 6:08:08am

re: #616 lurking faith

So, I log in to the net, and see that Ted Kennedy has died.

Do I read the story? Do I turn on the tv? Do I go get the newspaper? No, I come straight here.

{lgf}

RIP, Senator. My sympathies to the family.

It's what I did, at 4am, when I heard it on the radio.

620 UncleRancher  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 6:08:34am

re: #619 CapeCoddah

It's what I did, at 4am, when I heard it on the radio.

Me too.

621 BlueCanuck  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 6:09:01am

re: #618 reloadingisnotahobby

And even if they weren't...Their ...like...HUGE DUDE!!

I am going to need a bigger gun...

622 _RememberTonyC  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 6:09:15am

re: #612 Killian Bundy

Obama to comment on Kennedy's death within the hour.

/ten bucks says he uses the statement to put in a gratuitous pitch for health care reform, as in "we must pass it for Teddy", a.k.a. the "Wellstone effect"


Not sure if you were being sarcastic or not, but I believe Obama is smarter than that. Maybe at his funeral he will go there, but not this morning. That is, unless the POTUS is far more cynical than I dreamed.

623 Desert Dog  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 6:09:42am

RIP Ted Kennedy.

I will follow the advise at the top of this thread and not say anything at all.

624 reloadingisnotahobby  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 6:09:53am

re: #621 BlueCanuck
I got your back...;-)

625 BlueCanuck  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 6:10:27am

re: #616 lurking faith

I get to work, log into my personal e-mail, then log into LGF. Found out in my news feed and checked here to see if it had been posted. Looks like we are going to have to start building some new icons.

626 Desert Dog  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 6:10:38am

re: #622 _RememberTonyC

Not sure if you were being sarcastic or not, but I believe Obama is smarter than that. Maybe at his funeral he will go there, but not this morning. That is, unless the POTUS is far more cynical than I dreamed.

Maybe not at the funeral, but you can bet the farm they will use his death for that purpose.

627 _RememberTonyC  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 6:11:31am

re: #610 lincolntf

Morning all.

You're right about that, Tony C., it would be a huge deal if a Republican won. I'll settle for any non-Kennedy, regardless of Party.
We've got to get rid of these hereditary seats. It's gone beyond a nostalgic affectation and become a real hindrance to the representative system.


Like I said, this could be a real "moment" in American politics. Or it could be more of the same. The people in Massachusetts have a real chance to alter the course of contemporary American history.

628 CapeCoddah  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 6:12:07am

re: #622 _RememberTonyC

Not sure if you were being sarcastic or not, but I believe Obama is smarter than that. Maybe at his funeral he will go there, but not this morning. That is, unless the POTUS is far more cynical than I dreamed.

You are in for a shocker, then.

629 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 6:12:38am

I know I'll get malled for this, but ... five bucks to the Lizard who comes up with a really good "Schaumburg" pun.

630 Killian Bundy  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 6:12:51am

re: #622 _RememberTonyC

Not sure if you were being sarcastic or not, but I believe Obama is smarter than that. Maybe at his funeral he will go there, but not this morning. That is, unless the POTUS is far more cynical than I dreamed.

We'll see.

/remember, this is a man who sees nothing wrong with saying "all wee wee'd up" at a public event, in front of a camera

631 lurking faith  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 6:13:14am

re: #622 _RememberTonyC

Not sure if you were being sarcastic or not, but I believe Obama is smarter than that. Maybe at his funeral he will go there, but not this morning. That is, unless the POTUS is far more cynical than I dreamed.


If he gets good advice, he won't go there - yet.
But I have become convinced that it is not possible to overestimate our current POTUS's cynicism.

632 Kenneth  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 6:13:25am

Busted! ...Dem Headquarters Vandalized By SEIU Activist!!... Dems Blamed GOP

The Colorado Democratic Headquarters in Denver was vandalized this morning. Eleven windows at the headquarters on Santa Fe Drive were shattered early this morning in a vandalism spree.

The Dems blamed the vandalism on the health care rhetoric.

But, later in the day authorities arrested a 24 year-old Maurice Schwenkler on suspicion of smashing 11 windows at Colorado Democratic Party headquarters. Shwenkler tried to conceal his identity while allegedly committing the crime, according to police descriptions.

But, the People's Press Collective did some investigating and found this on Shwenkler: Schwenkler received a $500 payment by SEIU-related front-group Colorado Citizen Coalition

633 CapeCoddah  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 6:14:06am

Have a good day, everyone... hubby wants to read the newspapers online!!

634 _RememberTonyC  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 6:14:17am

re: #628 CapeCoddah

You are in for a shocker, then.

CC ... I would not be shocked, but I would be repulsed

635 laZardo  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 6:14:41am

re: #632 Kenneth

INSAHD JAWB!

/as alex jones would say :B

636 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 6:14:46am

re: #628 CapeCoddah

You are in for a shocker, then.

Obama already made a vague reference to health care...

"U.S. President Barack Obama: For five decades, virtually every major piece of legislation to advance the civil rights, health and economic well being of the American people bore his name and resulted from his efforts."

[Link: www.cnn.com...]

There'll be more to come.

637 reloadingisnotahobby  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 6:14:55am

re: #633 CapeCoddah
Tell him to take one off a nieghbors driveway...

638 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 6:15:21am

re: #620 UncleRancher

Me too.

Me three. Heard it when the clock radio kicked on at 6:00am, from SeeBS radio news.

639 Kenneth  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 6:15:25am

Making a Bad Situation Worse

Our new column for Pajamas Media looks at Leon Panetta's leadership at the CIA. A few months back, we described him as the wrong man for the wrong job at the wrong time, and sure enough, Panetta is proving us right. At a moment when the spy agency needs exceptional leadership to minimize damage from politically-motivated investigations, Mr. Panetta is actually making things worse, by creating a tempest over a non-scandal.

Under ordinary circumstances, we'd call for Panetta's resignation, but his potential replacements would be far worse. One name making the rounds is Massachusetts Senator John F. Kerry, who served in Vietnam.

Kerry as CIA Director? God help us.

Somebody better warn TFK before he reads this!

640 Desert Dog  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 6:15:31am

Enough of this, lets talk about things that are truly important to society:

Beer prices about to get frothy

641 MikeAlv77  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 6:15:38am

Little rant...

Woke up yesterday to find that the dog had thrown up all over the family room. After Mrs. MikeAlv spends 2 hours cleaning up and after getting back from work and steam cleaning the carpet we get the stains up. The Mrs. checks the dog food she just feed the dog. It expired 2 YEARS AGO and she just bought it. It wasn't pretty when she called the store. (Glad it wasn't me on the other end of that phone...) She is stopping by today to do more damage in person.

Dog is doing better and is now on a bland diet of chicken and rice.

Warning to all - check the dates on your dog food and other staples. It was a local feed store that we won't be going back to...

642 _RememberTonyC  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 6:15:50am

re: #630 Killian Bundy

We'll see.

/remember, this is a man who sees nothing wrong with saying "all wee wee'd up" at a public event, in front of a camera

Nothing would shock me, but I think the American people would be very turned off by any such attempt just hours after the Senator's death.

643 Beach Lover  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 6:15:58am

re: #629 pre-Boomer Marine brat

I know I'll get malled for this, but ... five bucks to the Lizard who comes up with a really good "Schaumburg" pun.


"Would you like schamburger and fries with that shake?"

644 reloadingisnotahobby  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 6:17:19am

re: #640 Desert Dog

Damn...Now THAT brings a tear to my eyes!!

645 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 6:17:21am

re: #636 Walter L. Newton

Obama already made a vague reference to health care...

"U.S. President Barack Obama: For five decades, virtually every major piece of legislation to advance the civil rights, health and economic well being of the American people bore his name and resulted from his efforts."

[Link: www.cnn.com...]

There'll be more to come.

You know they're going to re-double their efforts to ram this through, for Kennedy.

646 soxfan4life  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 6:17:21am

re: #639 Kenneth

John Kerry the one man who would make the CIA miss Leon Pannetta

647 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 6:17:58am

re: #639 Kenneth

Making a Bad Situation Worse

Somebody better warn TFK before he reads this!

He's on the tractor, mowing.

648 midwestgak  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 6:18:03am

Morning Lizards. Anything uplifting to talk about?

649 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 6:18:17am

re: #643 Beach Lover

"Would you like schamburger and fries with that shake?"

For schaum! Burgering it up like that!

650 Desert Dog  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 6:18:29am

re: #639 Kenneth

Making a Bad Situation Worse

Somebody better warn TFK before he reads this!

John F-ing Kerry? Wow...I doubt he would give up his Senate seat for that. He's now the senior Senator from Mass. Having him run the CIA would probably end Intelligence Gathering as we know it.

651 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 6:18:37am

re: #648 midwestgak

Morning Lizards. Anything uplifting to talk about?

I'm sure there's plenty of things to talk about, but it's hump day and it's not 10:00 yet so I can't think of any of them.

652 Killian Bundy  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 6:18:45am

re: #642 _RememberTonyC

Nothing would shock me, but I think the American people would be very turned off by any such attempt just hours after the Senator's death.

Watch a tape of the Wellstone funeral again.

/they just can't help themselves

653 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 6:19:08am

Kerry served in Vietnam? Who knew?

654 Kenneth  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 6:19:11am

The Reagan-Obama Debate

Perfect.

655 reloadingisnotahobby  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 6:19:43am

re: #649 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Go back to bed!!!

656 Spenser (with an S)  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 6:19:57am

re: #647 Ward Cleaver

Somebody better warn TFK before he reads this!

He's on the tractor, mowing.

You can see him? What's he look like?

/

657 reloadingisnotahobby  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 6:19:59am

re: #655 reloadingisnotahobby

Go back to bed!!!

Just teasin ya!LOL

658 Panhandler  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 6:20:01am

re: #648 midwestgak

Morning Lizards. Anything uplifting to talk about?

Your new bra?

659 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 6:20:30am

Rest in peace, Mary Jo Kopechne.

/my only comment upon the subject

660 Kenneth  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 6:20:36am

re: #650 Desert Dog

John F-ing Kerry? Wow...I doubt he would give up his Senate seat for that. He's now the senior Senator from Mass. Having him run the CIA would probably end Intelligence Gathering as we know it.

But he has a Magic Hat! We wouldn't need agents or analysts anymore. All John Effin Kerry would need to do is to look into his Magic Hat, and poof! He knows what to do.

661 _RememberTonyC  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 6:20:49am

re: #652 Killian Bundy

Watch a tape of the Wellstone funeral again.

/they just can't help themselves

true dat

662 Killian Bundy  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 6:20:55am
Kerry as CIA Director?

/what, Putin's not available

663 soxfan4life  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 6:20:56am

re: #650 Desert Dog

John F-ing Kerry? Wow...I doubt he would give up his Senate seat for that. He's now the senior Senator from Mass. Having him run the CIA would probably end Intelligence Gathering as we know it.

John Kerry and intelligence 2 things that are just not meant to go together.

664 Desert Dog  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 6:21:12am

re: #660 Kenneth

But he has a Magic Hat! We wouldn't need agents or analysts anymore. All John Effin Kerry would need to do is to look into his Magic Hat, and poof! He knows what to do.

Well, that least that would make him take his head out of his a**

665 BlueCanuck  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 6:21:17am

re: #650 Desert Dog

Something like what happened during the Clinton era? Most dems seem to forget about the most important element of Intelligence gathering. HUMINT will often pick up something before ELINT. Besides most modern terrorists have gone off the net for transfers of information between cells.

666 BlueCanuck  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 6:22:15am

re: #664 Desert Dog

Well, that least that would make him take his head out of his a**

Where do you think he keeps his magic hat?

667 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 6:22:20am

re: #655 reloadingisnotahobby

Go back to bed!!!

Thank you!
/may I use that as a justification?

668 Kenneth  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 6:22:25am

re: #664 Desert Dog

Well, that least that would make him take his head out of his a**

Oh no, his Magic Hat works better in the dark.

669 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 6:22:40am

re: #648 midwestgak

Morning Lizards. Anything uplifting to talk about?

National Guard troops returning from Iraq got a hero's welcome in my town (Wylie, TX) yesterday. And I forgot all about it. :-( I was mowing last night, and heard sirens, then lots of horns honking. Stupid me, I thought I was an accident somewhere, and emergency vehicles were trying to get through traffic. Only when I watched the local news at 10, and saw the story, did I remember that there was a parade downtown.

670 soxfan4life  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 6:22:51am

re: #662 Killian Bundy

/what, Putin's not available

I think there might be a tax problem there.///

671 Dahveed  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 6:23:57am

Condolences to the Kennedy family.

672 UncleRancher  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 6:24:11am

re: #649 pre-Boomer Marine brat

For schaum! Burgering it up like that!

One gold star.

673 Mad Al-Jaffee  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 6:24:25am

I'm still mourning Les Paul. That's all I have to say right now.

674 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 6:25:08am

re: #650 Desert Dog

John F-ing Kerry? Wow...I doubt he would give up his Senate seat for that. He's now the senior Senator from Mass. Having him run the CIA would probably end Intelligence Gathering as we know it.

Whoa... you used the word "intelligence" and "Kerry" in the same paragraph and I blew 16 pixels on my monitor.

Stop that.

675 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 6:25:10am

re: #665 BlueCanuck

Something like what happened during the Clinton era? Most dems seem to forget about the most important element of Intelligence gathering. HUMINT will often pick up something before ELINT. Besides most modern terrorists have gone off the net for transfers of information between cells.

Or like when Carter appointed Stansfield Turner, and he gutted our HUMINT capability, instead relying on ELINT and SIGINT.

676 lincolntf  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 6:25:24am

If prominent hippy-dippy Vietnam War protester John Kerry were to become the Director of the CIA, it would break some cosmic irony rule.
Not sure if the Universe will allow it.

677 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 6:26:06am

re: #676 lincolntf

If prominent hippy-dippy Vietnam War protester John Kerry were to become the Director of the CIA, it would break some cosmic irony rule.
Not sure if the Universe will allow it.

It's the end of the world!

/

678 Desert Dog  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 6:26:55am

re: #675 Ward Cleaver

Or like when Carter appointed Stansfield Turner, and he gutted our HUMINT capability, instead relying on ELINT and SIGINT.

That paid off really well, didn't it? Unfortunately, it paid off for our enemies.

679 Killian Bundy  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 6:27:38am

re: #676 lincolntf

If prominent hippy-dippy Vietnam War protester John Kerry were to become the Director of the CIA, it would break some cosmic irony rule.
Not sure if the Universe will allow it.

/well, it'd certainly be more proof positive that Obama really is intent on tearing down this country

680 laZardo  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 6:27:52am

re: #676 lincolntf

If prominent hippy-dippy Vietnam War protester John Kerry were to become the Director of the CIA, it would break some cosmic irony rule.
Not sure if the Universe will allow it.

It'd be in accordance with Murphy's Law.

681 Desert Dog  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 6:28:23am

re: #654 Kenneth

The Reagan-Obama Debate


Perfect.

Awesome, Kenneth. One leader, one wind bag

682 soxfan4life  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 6:29:27am

re: #676 lincolntf

If prominent hippy-dippy Vietnam War protester John Kerry were to become the Director of the CIA, it would break some cosmic irony rule.
Not sure if the Universe will allow it.

The new slogan at CIA would be " Don't you know who I am?". And they would put philly cheesesteaks with swiss cheese on the lunch menu.

683 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 6:31:01am

re: #654 Kenneth

The Reagan-Obama Debate


Perfect.

Oh...

Let me say again, I am glad Senator Kennedy did not live to see his vision of America.

684 Kenneth  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 6:31:11am

Well, well, well... isn't this interesting!

On MOnday, Toronto newspapers were full of shocking stories about a young man who was apparently abducted at gun point from his car. His tearful parents gave a message, from the steps of their mosque, about what a good boy their son was, etc, blah, blah, blah. The told us how their son was a devout Muslim and had never been in trouble with the law.

Then on Tuesday, it was reported that the young man in question, Furqan Muhammad-Haroon, had been arrested a few weeks ago in connection with a box full of hard drives and other computer equipment allegedly stolen form his employer, IBM.

And now this...

Toronto police charge man reported abducted
Furqan Muhammad-Haroon was on his way to Dubai

A Toronto man who disappeared mysteriously in a reported abduction on Aug. 22 has been found and is now charged with public mischief.

Toronto police said Tuesday evening they located Furqan Muhammad-Haroon, 22, in St. Catharines, Ont. He is due to appear Wednesday at 10 a.m. ET in a Toronto court.

Muhammad-Haroon called a friend at about 3:30 p.m. ET on Aug. 22 while driving a green Mazda MPV near Midwest Road and Midland Avenue in Scarborough to say he was being followed.

Police had initially said three men, one with a gun, forced Muhammad-Haroon's car off the road. But no one had reported seeing anything unusual near the intersection at the time of the abduction.

Police said they now cannot corroborate the earlier account.

"We have no evidence to suggest that took place," said Toronto police spokeswoman Const. Wendy Drummond Tuesday. The case is no longer being treated as an abduction.

The Saturday call to his friend was the last time anyone heard from the University of Toronto electrical engineering student.

Muhammad-Haroon was on his way to the airport to take a trip overseas and had withdrawn about $2,000 from a bank account.

What a surprise. Funny how his purported "devoutness" failed to educate him on the immorality of theft, lying, obstruction of justice, and public mischief.

685 Desert Dog  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 6:31:17am

re: #682 soxfan4life

The new slogan at CIA would be " Don't you know who I am?". And they would put philly cheesesteaks with swiss cheese on the lunch menu.

Well, all the people currently at the CIA would be in jail for committing crimes against poor terrorists. You know, after the purges newly installed Director Kerry would initiate the second he got in.

686 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 6:31:23am

re: #682 soxfan4life

The new slogan at CIA would be " Don't you know who I am?". And they would put philly cheesesteaks with swiss cheese on the lunch menu.

Can I git one of them there huntin' licence?

687 Kenneth  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 6:32:04am

re: #674 Walter L. Newton

It's such a bad idea, it must be a sure thing.

688 yesandno  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 6:32:18am

re: #472 3 wood

Heading out to work.

Speaking of which, it look's like I will soon be joining the army of the unemployed. My department is being eliminated in a budget consolidation move. Our Dept. Director got let go a couple weeks ago. I got "the phone call" yesterday to set an appointment with the management empty suits to hear them tell me how hard it is for them to do this and tell me what my severance benefits are. That meeting will happen on Monday (last day of the month and pay period, by some odd coincidence).

So, if you notice that I have very little patience for the shameless cheerleading and spinning by some around here about how Obama has supposedly "turned around" the economy, I hope you will understand.

Later.

Without a doubt, it is more then understandable.

Here is hoping that a new job will be around the corner. Someone of your skills should be very employable.

689 soxfan4life  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 6:32:33am

re: #681 Desert Dog

Awesome, Kenneth. One leader, one wind bag

More like one leader, one douchebag.

690 doppelganglander  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 6:33:22am

re: #641 MikeAlv77

Little rant...

Woke up yesterday to find that the dog had thrown up all over the family room. After Mrs. MikeAlv spends 2 hours cleaning up and after getting back from work and steam cleaning the carpet we get the stains up. The Mrs. checks the dog food she just feed the dog. It expired 2 YEARS AGO and she just bought it. It wasn't pretty when she called the store. (Glad it wasn't me on the other end of that phone...) She is stopping by today to do more damage in person.

Dog is doing better and is now on a bland diet of chicken and rice.

Warning to all - check the dates on your dog food and other staples. It was a local feed store that we won't be going back to...

I'm so sorry about your dog and hope he's doing better. We had a similar experience, only it was Christmas and the turkey I bought on the 23rd had expired on the 18th or thereabouts. I did not discover this until I was putting the turkey in the oven on Christmas morning. We were forced to have Christmas dinner at the only open restaurant in town (a diner, it was pretty decent actually). At least it makes a good story.

691 Desert Dog  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 6:33:29am

re: #684 Kenneth

Well, well, well... isn't this interesting!

On MOnday, Toronto newspapers were full of shocking stories about a young man who was apparently abducted at gun point from his car. His tearful parents gave a message, from the steps of their mosque, about what a good boy their son was, etc, blah, blah, blah. The told us how their son was a devout Muslim and had never been in trouble with the law.

Then on Tuesday, it was reported that the young man in question, Furqan Muhammad-Haroon, had been arrested a few weeks ago in connection with a box full of hard drives and other computer equipment allegedly stolen form his employer, IBM.

And now this...

Toronto police charge man reported abducted
Furqan Muhammad-Haroon was on his way to Dubai

What a surprise. Funny how his purported "devoutness" failed to educate him on the immorality of theft, lying, obstruction of justice, and public mischief.

What you talking about, Willis. Those are noble actions of a devout follower when dealing with kaffirs and infidels.

692 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 6:33:30am

re: #686 Cannadian Club Akbar

Can I git one of them there huntin' licence?

I remember back when that happened, Rush played that audio clip for what seemed like a solid hour. I kept thinking of just how stupid he would look in any hunting-type place.

693 FrogMarch  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 6:33:54am

re: #645 Ward Cleaver

You know they're going to re-double their efforts to ram this through, for Kennedy.

The pro- Democrat health care TV ads here in CO are rhetorically heinous. The Democrats are promising to "let us keep___..." (fill in the blank about any aspect of our personal health care) Oh thank you, dear leaders.! *I fall on the ground and grovel at your feet.*

694 Kenneth  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 6:34:27am

re: #689 soxfan4life

More like one leader, one douchebag.

One leader and one Commissar.

695 midwestgak  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 6:35:16am

re: #654 Kenneth

9 trillions updings, Kenneth. "We are five days away from fundamentally transforming the United States of American." Haunting. Happening.

Government run by Bi-czar-os.

696 Desert Dog  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 6:35:21am

Got to get the family unit moving. See you all later.

697 reloadingisnotahobby  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 6:35:48am

re: #663 soxfan4life

How long would it take for that dimwit catsup to the Inteligence
Agency!
pre-Bommer started it mom!!

698 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 6:35:57am

re: #684 Kenneth

He was abducted? That's a Dubaious claim if I ever saw one!

699 Spenser (with an S)  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 6:36:38am

re: #688 yesandno

your skills should be very employable.

Wow, I wasn't here for that. My under-employed ass is very nervous in a world where 3wood is unemployed. He'll pick up something fast.

700 FrogMarch  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 6:37:00am

re: #650 Desert Dog

John F-ing Kerry? Wow...I doubt he would give up his Senate seat for that. He's now the senior Senator from Mass. Having him run the CIA would probably end Intelligence Gathering as we know it.

John Kerry - the most useful of useful idiots? oy.
I hope he brings his magic hat.

701 Mad Al-Jaffee  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 6:37:47am

re: #650 Desert Dog

I wouldn't be surprised if 0 appointed John Walker Lindh for the job.

702 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 6:37:54am

Going to Cirque De Soleil "Kooza" tonight in downtown Denver. Wee.

703 Baier  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 6:37:57am

Here's hoping there are no bridges on the way home from Kennedy's wake.

704 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 6:38:35am

Has anyone posted the pic of Kerry at NASA in the bunny outfit?

705 Spenser (with an S)  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 6:38:37am

re: #698 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Then on Tuesday, it was reported that the young man in question, Furqan Muhammad-Haroon, had been arrested a few weeks ago in connection with a box full of hard drives and other computer equipment allegedly stolen form his employer, IBM.



He was abducted? That's a Dubaious claim if I ever saw one!

These Furquan kids!

706 FrogMarch  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 6:39:09am

re: #702 Walter L. Newton

Going to Cirque De Soleil "Kooza" tonight in downtown Denver. Wee.

Nice. That should be fun.

707 Kenneth  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 6:39:24am

re: #702 Walter L. Newton

I've seen them perform, & they are well worth it. Very entertaining.

Have fun!

708 soxfan4life  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 6:39:55am

re: #693 FrogMarch

The pro- Democrat health care TV ads here in CO are rhetorically heinous. The Democrats are promising to "let us keep___..." (fill in the blank about any aspect of our personal health care) Oh thank you, dear leaders.! *I fall on the ground and grovel at your feet.*

How about that disabled vet on Fox news the other day. He said the same thing at a town hall meeting. Thanks for letting me keep my health insurance, and proceeded to rip his rep a new asshole.

709 Mad Al-Jaffee  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 6:40:18am

re: #702 Walter L. Newton

Going to Cirque De Soleil "Kooza" tonight in downtown Denver. Wee.

Just "Wee"? Not wee-wee?

710 opnion  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 6:41:03am

re: #701 Mad Al-Jaffee

I wouldn't be surprised if 0 appointed John Walker Lindh for the job.

Nah, Bill Ayers appointed him to a foundation, he owes him a favor.

711 Baier  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 6:41:16am

re: #517 Cheesehead

Five years ago this month my Mom was diagnosed with the same brain cancer that killed Sen. Kennedy, a malignant stage four Glioma. Thirty days later she died. The only merciful thing about this type of cancer is that the person doesn't linger long to suffer. My sincere condolences to the Kennedy family.

My condolences to the Kopechne family, who never saw justice after there 28 year old daughter was left to die in a river by drunken Ted Kennedy.

712 laZardo  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 6:41:23am

re: #709 Mad Al-Jaffee

Wee wee, le Cirque du Soleil.

/pardon my English

713 soxfan4life  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 6:42:20am

re: #710 opnion

Nah, Bill Ayers appointed him to a foundation, he owes him a favor.


Probably waiting for the next SCOTUS seat to open up.

714 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 6:42:53am

re: #712 laZardo

Wee wee, le Cirque du Soleil.

/pardon my English

I think you're Luzon it.

/sorry, couldn't resist the pun ... :D

715 reine.de.tout  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 6:42:54am

re: #702 Walter L. Newton

Going to Cirque De Soleil "Kooza" tonight in downtown Denver. Wee.

A Cirque du Soleil performance I saw in New Orleans a few years ago was stunningly awesome.

There was a point in the performance where the acrobat failed to make a particular stunt. The others in that particular group surrounded him and did some sort of act where they beat on the floor in time to the music that was playing, until he could collect himself and get prepared to re-try the stunt. It was so beautifully and artfully done, most of the audience didn't even realize there had been a mistake - the only reason I knew was that I had seen a taped version of this performance. Incredibe professionalism, I thought, to have an act prepared to "cover it up and retry it" when a mistake is made.

716 Kenneth  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 6:43:00am

Obama targets the CIA, not the enemy

This week, President Obama made two incredibly dangerous and arrogant decisions involving the war on terror, or as his administration prefers to call it, the "global contingency operation" to prevent "man-made disasters."

First, his administration announced the creation of a new, special interrogation unit to carry out the questioning of terrorist suspects that would be under the direct supervision of the White House. And second, he has authorized Attorney General Eric H. Holder Jr. to appoint a special prosecutor to investigate whether CIA officers violated the law in applying some of the enhanced interrogation techniques on high-value al Qaeda detainees.

Both moves will catapult us back prior to Sept. 10, 2001, when our intelligence officers were denied the resources and latitude to destroy the enemy before it had the chance to destroy us.

Heaven help us.

717 razorbacker  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 6:43:31am

re: #692 thedopefishlives

I remember back when that happened, Rush played that audio clip for what seemed like a solid hour. I kept thinking of just how stupid he would look in any hunting-type place.

You can't always rely on appearances alone.

A weedy-looking little fellow once demonstrated that one can skin, clean, and cut up a deer with a single-edged razor blade. Well, he did need help getting through the sternum, but other than that he did fine.

Turned out he earned his living as a surgeon, but still.

718 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 6:43:35am

re: #707 Kenneth

I've seen them perform, & they are well worth it. Very entertaining.

Have fun!

I think I have seen all but one of their Grand Chapiteau shows of the last 20 years. It's one of those events that is really worth spending the ungodly amount of money they want for a ticket.

I haven't split for a major priced ticket for anything in the last 3 years, so this will be a treat.

And most importantly, my girlfriend and the young one are going with me and they have never seen a Cirque performance. That's the real magic of this evening.

719 Mad Al-Jaffee  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 6:44:13am

re: #713 soxfan4life

Probably waiting for the next SCOTUS seat to open up.

No, that will go to Lynne Stewart.

720 Kenneth  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 6:44:19am

(cont'd)

The creation of an interrogations unit to be supervised directly by the White House is a breathtaking power grab by Mr. Obama, who has already demonstrated his penchant for expanding executive control by appointing three dozen issue-specific "czars" who are accountable to no one but him. Mr. Obama now aims to run terrorist interrogations right from the Oval Office.

When President Richard Nixon consolidated national security decision-making in the White House, his liberal critics went bananas, accusing him of trying to end-run Congress. Similar charges were made against President George W. Bush, with his opponents going even further, claiming he was a war criminal for trying to fight a shadowy enemy with the secrecy required for success.

Can you imagine the outrage if Bush had done this?

721 FrogMarch  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 6:44:34am

re: #708 soxfan4life

How about that disabled vet on Fox news the other day. He said the same thing at a town hall meeting. Thanks for letting me keep my health insurance, and proceeded to rip his rep a new asshole.

re: #711 Baier

My condolences to the Kopechne family, who never saw justice after there 28 year old daughter was left to die in a river by drunken Ted Kennedy.

Vehicular manslaughter (D) = senate seat for life.
RIP.

722 opnion  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 6:44:36am

re: #713 soxfan4life

Probably waiting for the next SCOTUS seat to open up.

I think that it is targeted for his wife Bernadine Dohrn. She is even crazier & more vicious than Ayers.

723 realwest  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 6:44:53am

Good morning all y'all - from a pleasant (67 degrees going up to 90 degrees) bright and sunny Charlotte!
Mom and I are doing fine today, I hope y'all are doing as well.

724 Kenneth  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 6:45:53am

re: #718 Walter L. Newton

And most importantly, my girlfriend and the young one are going with me and they have never seen a Cirque performance. That's the real magic of this evening.

Great! The youngster will be enthralled. Watching his/her face will be even better than the show itself. Enjoy!

725 soxfan4life  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 6:45:57am

re: #723 realwest

Glad to hear it. All is well here in Central MA

726 FrogMarch  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 6:46:10am

re: #708 soxfan4life

How about that disabled vet on Fox news the other day. He said the same thing at a town hall meeting. Thanks for letting me keep my health insurance, and proceeded to rip his rep a new asshole.

oops-
I think I saw him. Is it this guy?

727 MrSilverDragon  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 6:46:50am

Good morning everyone!

I remember meeting Emo Philips years ago at a comedy club in DC. I stayed after the show to get an autograph, and he signed it "Good luck with your new skull." It's floating around in my house somewhere.

728 BlueCanuck  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 6:47:09am

re: #718 Walter L. Newton

They used to have a t.v. show up here on CBC. Very well done. I keep missing out on seeing them whenever they are here in Toronto. I have two problems either the time and no money, or money and no time. Eventually I will see them.

729 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 6:47:32am

re: #718 Walter L. Newton

The tickets are pricey, but hell, there have to be a hundred people to pull one of those shows off.

730 Mad Al-Jaffee  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 6:47:33am

Today's a beautiful day and I'm inside, at work. I should be out fishing with my brother and our nephew (who has been very excited about getting on and driving "the motorboat!" again.)

There's no justice! Who should I sue?

731 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 6:47:41am

re: #727 MrSilverDragon

Good morning everyone!

I remember meeting Emo Philips years ago at a comedy club in DC. I stayed after the show to get an autograph, and he signed it "Good luck with your new skull." It's floating around in my house somewhere.

The skull?

732 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 6:47:56am

re: #715 reine.de.tout

A Cirque du Soleil performance I saw in New Orleans a few years ago was stunningly awesome.

There was a point in the performance where the acrobat failed to make a particular stunt. The others in that particular group surrounded him and did some sort of act where they beat on the floor in time to the music that was playing, until he could collect himself and get prepared to re-try the stunt. It was so beautifully and artfully done, most of the audience didn't even realize there had been a mistake - the only reason I knew was that I had seen a taped version of this performance. Incredibe professionalism, I thought, to have an act prepared to "cover it up and retry it" when a mistake is made.

Take it from someone who has spent 40 years in my spare time doing live performance, you have your "outs." Nothing about circus is left to chance, really nothing about live performance is left for chance (most of the time).

Cirque De Soleil is about as perfect as you can get, for production values, some of the most excellent performers, amazing live music and the most high tech tent that you will ever see.

For me, it's like walking into a live fantasy, like walking into the LOTR or a Harry Potter story. It really is the closest thing to real magic.

733 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 6:48:01am

re: #716 Kenneth

Obama targets the CIA, not the enemy

Heaven help us.

0bama is throwing the moonbats a bone, since he's let them down by not immediately surrendering in Iraq and Afghanistan. I've heard that it's likely that no one will be prosecuted, but that they'll go through these investigations anyway, as a show.

734 reine.de.tout  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 6:48:09am

re: #711 Baier

My condolences to the Kopechne family, who never saw justice after there 28 year old daughter was left to die in a river by drunken Ted Kennedy.

Ongoing condolences to the Kopechne family.

Now the Kennedy family was never my cup o' tea, but I hope they all rest in peace.

Furthermore - I would just like to say this - we do not know, cannot know, what sort of repentence and penance Kennedy ever did for the Kopechne incident. It would not necessarily have played out in public.

735 razorbacker  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 6:49:00am

re: #641 MikeAlv77

Little rant...
Warning to all - check the dates on your dog food and other staples. It was a local feed store that we won't be going back to...

Poor stock rotation.

Counts for people food, too.

Almost makes you wonder about that fabled sense of smell. You'd of thought the dog would have sniffed and declined. But still, we discussing an animal who says hello by sniffing your butt.

736 soxfan4life  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 6:49:04am

re: #726 FrogMarch

oops-
I think I saw him. Is it this guy?

That's the one. Hopefully these assholes in power get the gist that most Americans are fed up with the whole lot of them.

737 opnion  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 6:49:09am

re: #720 Kenneth

Obama is acting according to his nature. He does not seem very fond of the U.S as is. His first inclination seems to be to blame America even if it flies in the face of the facts.
This move with Holder is really going to demoralise the CIA & other intellegence agencies.

738 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 6:49:09am

re: #724 Kenneth

Great! The youngster will be enthralled. Watching his/her face will be even better than the show itself. Enjoy!

You got my point.

739 laZardo  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 6:49:34am

re: #733 Ward Cleaver

The seething hordes will not be quenched until Cheney gets sentenced for war crimes.

/...eth.

740 MrSilverDragon  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 6:49:38am

re: #731 pre-Boomer Marine brat

The skull?

The new skull!

741 Kenneth  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 6:49:42am

Obama vs. the CIA
Targeting intelligence undermines national security


Mr. Holder's approach promises to publicly humiliate the agency and tarnish the Bush legacy, with no discernible benefit for national security. This is naked politics hiding behind the robe of justice.
742 _RememberTonyC  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 6:50:02am

re: #723 realwest

Good morning all y'all - from a pleasant (67 degrees going up to 90 degrees) bright and sunny Charlotte!
Mom and I are doing fine today, I hope y'all are doing as well.


Mornin' realwest ... so far, so good.

743 realwest  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 6:50:05am

re: #716 Kenneth
Good morning Kenneth - another excellent comment, but you need to take it with the proverbial grain of salt; it was , after all, written in part by a Fox News contributor!
/

744 reine.de.tout  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 6:50:13am

re: #732 Walter L. Newton

Take it from someone who has spent 40 years in my spare time doing live performance, you have your "outs." Nothing about circus is left to chance, really nothing about live performance is left for chance (most of the time).

Cirque De Soleil is about as perfect as you can get, for production values, some of the most excellent performers, amazing live music and the most high tech tent that you will ever see.

For me, it's like walking into a live fantasy, like walking into the LOTR or a Harry Potter story. It really is the closest thing to real magic.

Walter - considering the stunts they do - I was not in any way dismissing the Cirque. It is indeed amazing, like you said, a live fantasy, the closest thing to real magic. Just incredible, and as pert' near to perfect a performance of this sort can get.

745 midwestgak  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 6:50:23am

re: #723 realwest

Good morning all y'all - from a pleasant (67 degrees going up to 90 degrees) bright and sunny Charlotte!
Mom and I are doing fine today, I hope y'all are doing as well.

Morning {real}. It's a great day for a friendly thread.

746 soxfan4life  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 6:50:23am

re: #741 Kenneth

If it targets National Security than 0 must be all for it.

747 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 6:50:58am

re: #734 reine.de.tout

Ongoing condolences to the Kopechne family.

Now the Kennedy family was never my cup o' tea, but I hope they all rest in peace.

Furthermore - I would just like to say this - we do not know, cannot know, what sort of repentence and penance Kennedy ever did for the Kopechne incident. It would not necessarily have played out in public.

True. We don't know what Kennedy told his priest when he received the anointing of the sick, or the last rites. He could have expressed contrition for a lot of things.

748 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 6:51:32am

re: #739 laZardo

The seething hordes will not be quenched until Cheney gets sentenced for war crimes.

/...eth.

Sarc-eth? I like it.

749 opnion  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 6:51:37am

re: #708 soxfan4life

How about that disabled vet on Fox news the other day. He said the same thing at a town hall meeting. Thanks for letting me keep my health insurance, and proceeded to rip his rep a new asshole.


If this ex-marine gets much more exposure the Left will start to smear him, ala Joe the Plumber.
He is very articulate a clear thinker. I hope that he runs against his own congressman.

750 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 6:51:40am

re: #727 MrSilverDragon

I love Emo. Paraphrased...

"My parents always told me, no matter what happens... never, ever go through the basement door. One day, they weren't home, so I went through the basement door. I saw the most wondrous things...

I saw the sun, and trees, and grass..."

751 realwest  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 6:51:45am

re: #725 soxfan4life
Thankew and glad to hear your news!!

752 Spenser (with an S)  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 6:51:47am

Had a little info meeting last night about our Christian School system here. Two years ago, we were $17M in debt. Last night, it was confirmed that, thanks to thousands of donors including a couple of "holy crap!" donations, we are debt free with a plan to never let that happen again. Feels very freeing since we've got 4 kids just coming up through the system.

753 reine.de.tout  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 6:52:23am

re: #747 Ward Cleaver

True. We don't know what Kennedy told his priest when he received the anointing of the sick, or the last rites. He could have expressed contrition for a lot of things.

Or what he told his priest at any time before that.
Just sayin'

754 JamesTKirk  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 6:52:36am

re: #734 reine.de.tout

Furthermore - I would just like to say this - we do not know, cannot know, what sort of repentence and penance Kennedy ever did for the Kopechne incident. It would not necessarily have played out in public.

I'm willing to bet that if I drowned someone, on the other hand, I wouldn't have been allowed to merely make my own penance in private. I'd be repenting in a jail cell somewhere.

I'm not here to speak ill of the dead, or gloat, or anything like that; but on the other hand, I have no intention of lavishing any undeserved praise on him either.

755 soxfan4life  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 6:52:52am

re: #751 realwest

Next week I will be able to say all is well in Central TX.

756 MikeAlv77  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 6:52:59am

re: #735 razorbacker

Poor stock rotation.

Counts for people food, too.

Almost makes you wonder about that fabled sense of smell. You'd of thought the dog would have sniffed and declined. But still, we discussing an animal who says hello by sniffing your butt.

The odd part was the dog didn;t eat all her food for a day and we thought it didn't like it... guess she didn't. now we know to check the expire date. It smelled the same since I sniffed it. smelled like dog food. Looked fine too. Vet said it was probably the expired food

757 razorbacker  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 6:53:22am

re: #748 Ward Cleaver

Sarc-eth? I like it.

The need for the sarcastic font is great.

758 quickjustice  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 6:53:24am

As I blogged elsewhere about Teddy Kennedy:

"De mortuis nil nisi bonum." (Of the dead, nothing but good should be spoken.) In his congressional career, Kennedy was a lion of the left, a champion of the extreme left-wing of the U.S. Democratic Party. He also was extremely skilled at brokering compromises with his GOP counterparts, including President Bush and John McCain. "No Child Left Behind", while a failure as legislation, nonetheless is a tribute to Kennedy's ability to cut deals with, and to outsmart, Republicans.

Of more strategic interest is the ongoing dynastic struggle for control of the Democratic Party between the Kennedys and the Clintons. The latest round had gone to the Kennedys with the election of Illinois Democratic U.S. Senator Barack Obama as President of the United States. The Kennedys hand-picked Obama as their candidate early, and Teddy Kennedy led the charge to unseat the Clintons, and to reassert Kennedy control of the Democratic Party.

The election of Barack Obama to the Presidency was, in a profound sense, the final tribute to the staying power, guile, and smarts of the Kennedy clan within the Democratic Party, and to Teddy Kennedy himself. Before he is anything else, President Obama is a Kennedy man."

759 JamesTKirk  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 6:53:26am

re: #732 Walter L. Newton

Take it from someone who has spent 40 years in my spare time doing live performance, you have your "outs." Nothing about circus is left to chance, really nothing about live performance is left for chance (most of the time).

Cirque De Soleil is about as perfect as you can get, for production values, some of the most excellent performers, amazing live music and the most high tech tent that you will ever see.

For me, it's like walking into a live fantasy, like walking into the LOTR or a Harry Potter story. It really is the closest thing to real magic.

I've seen Cirque, and I've seen Penn & Teller. I'll take the later for entertainment and magic.

760 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 6:53:57am

re: #755 soxfan4life

Next week I will be able to say all is well in Central TX.

It's going to start raining?

761 reine.de.tout  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 6:54:31am

re: #754 JamesTKirk

I'm willing to bet that if I drowned someone, on the other hand, I wouldn't have been allowed to merely make my own penance in private. I'd be repenting in a jail cell somewhere.

I'm not here to speak ill of the dead, or gloat, or anything like that; but on the other hand, I have no intention of lavishing any undeserved praise on him either.

I agree, you or I would have been repenting in jail, for certain.
My intention was not to lavish praise.
It was simply to point out that speculation as to the state of Kennedy's soul is not proper.

762 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 6:54:45am

"Don't wear fur. Did you know a single fur coat takes fourteen trees just for the protest signs?"

- Emo Phillips.

763 realwest  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 6:54:54am

re: #732 Walter L. Newton
Good morning Walter - they ought to pay you to write reviews of their shows - I've had the thrill of watching 'em twice (two entirely different shows) and can only second your feelings about them.
Damn, they are GREAT!
How are you doing today?

764 lawhawk  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 6:54:59am

re: #759 JamesTKirk

I've seen Cirque, and I've seen Penn & Teller. I'll take the later for entertainment and magic.

I've seen both as well - and even got Penn & Teller autographs. They're quite the entertainers, but Cirque can be absolutely breathtaking in some of the stuff they do. I haven't seen their more recent shows or their Vegas acts, but some of their newest routines are amazing.

765 soxfan4life  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 6:55:36am

re: #760 Ward Cleaver

It's going to start raining?

I will be seeing MA in my rearview mirror this weekend, work takes me to Fort Hood Texas.

766 midwestgak  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 6:56:09am

re: #760 Ward Cleaver

It's going to start raining?

Ane the temperature will be in the low 80s?

767 opnion  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 6:56:10am

re: #741 Kenneth

Obama vs. the CIA
Targeting intelligence undermines national security

Obama had better be careful. I am not rumor mongering, but BHO was known to disappear from the Senate Building in Springfield, IL. most afternoons at about 1pm.
Could be completely innocent, but if not, do ya think that the CIA could find out?

768 Baier  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 6:56:43am

re: #734 reine.de.tout

Ongoing condolences to the Kopechne family.

Now the Kennedy family was never my cup o' tea, but I hope they all rest in peace.

Furthermore - I would just like to say this - we do not know, cannot know, what sort of repentence and penance Kennedy ever did for the Kopechne incident. It would not necessarily have played out in public.

It must have been horrible for him. I don't know he managed to have the inner strength to run for office.

769 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 6:56:53am

re: #761 reine.de.tout

I agree, you or I would have been repenting in jail, for certain.
My intention was not to lavish praise.
It was simply to point out that speculation as to the state of Kennedy's soul is not proper.

Exactly. Did the Kopechnes ever file a wrongful death suit? And if not, why not?

770 realwest  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 6:57:13am

re: #742 _RememberTonyC

Mornin' realwest ... so far, so good.

Morning back atcha! I guess that's all any of us have a right to expect: so far, so good!

771 soxfan4life  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 6:57:46am

re: #767 opnion

Obama had better be careful. I am not rumor mongering, but BHO was known to disappear from the Senate Building in Springfield, IL. most afternoons at about 1pm.
Could be completely innocent, but if not, do ya think that the CIA could find out?

Should we be watching for an endless filing of lawsuits as that seems to be 0's primary mode of eliminating threats?

772 Occasional Reader  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 6:57:51am

Let me just say that I'm already sick of the phrase "lion of the Senate", and can cheerfully go the rest of the day without hearing it.

RIP Ted Kennedy.

773 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 6:58:17am

re: #765 soxfan4life

I will be seeing MA in my rearview mirror this weekend, work takes me to Fort Hood Texas.

Way cool. Sadly, the weather's not way cool there. They're under an "extraordinary" drought, the worst severity.

774 razorbacker  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 6:58:21am

re: #756 MikeAlv77

The odd part was the dog didn;t eat all her food for a day and we thought it didn't like it... guess she didn't. now we know to check the expire date. It smelled the same since I sniffed it. smelled like dog food. Looked fine too. Vet said it was probably the expired food

This is a big 'if', and only count in stores that are serviced by dedicated vendors and that have enough stockers doing their jobs.

In well-run retail outlets the freshest merchandise is at the back of the shelf. The product is rotated by pulling old merchandise to the front and stocking new merchandise to the rear.

775 realwest  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 6:58:59am

re: #745 midwestgak

Morning {real}. It's a great day for a friendly thread.


Good morning {gak} and I couldn't agree with you more.
How are y'all doing this morning?

776 soxfan4life  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:00:22am

re: #773 Ward Cleaver

Way cool. Sadly, the weather's not way cool there. They're under an "extraordinary" drought, the worst severity.

I was there for 7 years thanks to the US Army. Seems more like home to me than MA does now despite spending the first 27 years of my life here. Am looking forward to spending the winter in TX as the Army always seemed to want to send me somewhere overseas in the winter.

777 reine.de.tout  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:00:28am

re: #769 Ward Cleaver

Exactly. Did the Kopechnes ever file a wrongful death suit? And if not, why not?

Sort of always wondered that, myself.

778 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:00:35am

Wow, only two deleted comments so far, both from pat.

What's the over-under on the first meltdown?

779 KenJen  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:00:43am
780 lurking faith  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:00:59am

re: #749 opnion

If this ex-marine gets much more exposure the Left will start to smear him, ala Joe the Plumber.
He is very articulate a clear thinker. I hope that he runs against his own congressman.

Marine, not ex-marine.

781 realwest  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:01:28am

re: #755 soxfan4life

Next week I will be able to say all is well in Central TX.


Whoa, really? Whereabouts in Central Texas? And is it job change or just a job relocation or what?

782 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:01:29am

re: #759 JamesTKirk

I've seen Cirque, and I've seen Penn & Teller. I'll take the later for entertainment and magic.

I was using the word "magic" in the wonderful way, not referring to the art of stage magic.

And please, as a life long performing magician myself, where as Penn and Teller are very entertaining, they are in no way "magical" in the way I was using the term.

They are comedy magicians and are not shooting for the amazement factor. In the business, we call them "the bad boys of magic." That's for a reason, and it's not meant as a slam, but it aptly describes their style.

783 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:01:52am

re: #778 Ward Cleaver

Was a shame those comments were able to stand as long as they did. They were despicable.

784 soxfan4life  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:02:04am

re: #780 lurking faith

Marine, not ex-marine.

An ex-marine means he has passed away.

785 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:02:31am

re: #744 reine.de.tout

I understood what you were saying, I wasn't correcting you. Sorry if you thought that.

786 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:02:44am

re: #776 soxfan4life

I was there for 7 years thanks to the US Army. Seems more like home to me than MA does now despite spending the first 27 years of my life here. Am looking forward to spending the winter in TX as the Army always seemed to want to send me somewhere overseas in the winter.

My brother killed a rattlesnake while doing some field training there years ago. The thing scared the shit of a female lieutenant.

787 Occasional Reader  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:02:56am

re: #752 Spenser (with an S)

Had a little info meeting last night about our Christian School system here. Two years ago, we were $17M in debt. Last night, it was confirmed that, thanks to thousands of donors including a couple of "holy crap!" donations, we are debt free with a plan to never let that happen again. Feels very freeing since we've got 4 kids just coming up through the system.

Without a Federal bailout?! That's unpossible!

788 soxfan4life  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:02:57am

re: #781 realwest

Whoa, really? Whereabouts in Central Texas? And is it job change or just a job relocation or what?

Job change, life change. Government contract at Fort Hood.

789 Lincolntf  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:03:14am

I highly recommend the book Senatorial Privilege to anyone who hasn't read it (or like me, hasn't read it for a long time). Not for it's literary merit per se, but because it gives you a good timeline of the accident and subsequent events, really shows what the Kennedy world was like at the time, discusses and debunks various rumors, speculation, etc.


The book

790 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:03:18am

re: #784 soxfan4life

An ex-marine means he has passed away.

Except in the case of Murtha.

791 Mad Al-Jaffee  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:03:32am

re: #782 Walter L. Newton

I see P&T as very talented, very funny, very intelligent guys who in their act deconstruct magic (or as GOB Bluth would say "illusions") in a very entertaining way. I've only see parts of their act on tv. I love the P&T Bullshit! show.

792 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:03:43am

re: #788 soxfan4life

Job change, life change. Government contract at Fort Hood.

"Texas. It's a whole nuther country!"
Tourism board, a few years back.

793 laZardo  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:03:54am

re: #787 Occasional Reader

They probably enlisted the help of the Evangelical Right that helped keep Bush popular among the mindless masses for the last 8 years.

/ q:

794 reine.de.tout  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:03:58am

re: #785 Walter L. Newton

I understood what you were saying, I wasn't correcting you. Sorry if you thought that.

:-)

795 soxfan4life  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:04:06am

re: #790 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Except in the case of Murtha.

I'm sure there are more than a few Marines willing to take care of that exception.

796 Darth Vader Gargoyle  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:04:12am

RIP Senator Kennedy.

797 opnion  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:04:55am

re: #771 soxfan4life

Should we be watching for an endless filing of lawsuits as that seems to be 0's primary mode of eliminating threats?

The CIA would not be responsible for the leaked info, as far as anyone would know.
It would probably come form some overseas 'Source"
Beside there may be nothing there, literally the guy could have been taking naps.

798 razorbacker  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:05:06am

re: #780 lurking faith

Marine, not ex-marine.

There are ex-marines. Murtha comes to mind. I've heard that President Obamas former pastor served in the Corps.

The old saw about 'once a Marine, always a Marine' makes for good PR, though.

799 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:05:10am

re: #791 Mad Al-Jaffee

I see P&T as very talented, very funny, very intelligent guys who in their act deconstruct magic (or as GOB Bluth would say "illusions") in a very entertaining way. I've only see parts of their act on tv. I love the P&T Bullshit! show.

I agree, but they are not magical as in the same sense I was using the word.

800 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:05:20am

re: #792 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

"Texas. It's a whole nuther country!"
Tourism board, a few years back.

And the Hill Country (where Killeen is) is beautiful; at least, parts of it.

801 Occasional Reader  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:05:41am

re: #758 quickjustice

"De mortuis nil nisi bonum." (Of the dead, nothing but good should be spoken.)

Well, then... three cheers for Hitler!

//

802 reine.de.tout  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:05:56am

re: #792 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

"Texas. It's a whole nuther country!"
Tourism board, a few years back.

The tourism board got it right.
I think there are many people who do not realize just how effin huge Texas is.

803 midwestgak  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:06:02am

re: #773 Ward Cleaver

Way cool. Sadly, the weather's not way cool there. They're under an "extraordinary" drought, the worst severity.

TX corn crops and drought
Cattle and crop loss - TX drought

And yet we turn corn into fuel. When will the energy czar (I assume there will be one if there isn't one already) stop biofuel production?

804 Yashmak  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:06:07am

Politics just won't be the same without him. . .
RIP Sen. Kennedy.

805 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:06:18am

(anonymous reply)
I'm not going to go on record by updinging that comment ... still ...

806 realwest  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:06:19am

re: #758 quickjustice
Good morning quickjustice!
"The election of Barack Obama to the Presidency was, in a profound sense, the final tribute to the staying power, guile, and smarts of the Kennedy clan within the Democratic Party, and to Teddy Kennedy himself."
I too shall speak no evil nor make any snide references to Ted Kennedy's life, but it wouldn't surprise me AT ALL if Ted Kennedy (RIP) were to have made a video presentation for Obama, pleading with the Nation to vote for Health Care Reform. And that Obama will play it the first or second day that Congress returns from their vacation.

807 Digital Display  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:06:25am

Good Morning Lizards! Hope everyone is well.. It's shaping up to be another beautiful day in Indiana.

808 _RememberTonyC  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:06:36am

re: #772 Occasional Reader

Let me just say that I'm already sick of the phrase "lion of the Senate", and can cheerfully go the rest of the day without hearing it.

RIP Ted Kennedy.


Quintin McHale was the "Lion of the Pacific."

809 Occasional Reader  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:06:39am

re: #790 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Except in the case of Murtha.

Lee Harvey Oswald also attained "ex-Marine" status during his lifetime, IMO.

810 FrogMarch  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:06:41am

re: #736 soxfan4life

That's the one. Hopefully these assholes in power get the gist that most Americans are fed up with the whole lot of them.

That's real HOPE.

811 quickjustice  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:07:11am

re: #734 reine.de.tout

There likely was a financial settlement with the Kopechne family, but never any real reconciliation:

From [Link: www.nytimes.com...] (written in 1989, twenty years after the death of Mary Jo Kopechne):

"In a recent interview with The Vineyard Gazette, Leslie Leland, the foreman of the grand jury that investigated the [Chappaquiddick] accident, said the panel was pressured by a judge and a prosecutor not to pursue the case.

''I think that we were manipulated,'' Mr. Leland said, ''and I think that we were blocked from doing our job, and if you want to use the word cover-up, then O.K., that's what it was.''

Ms. Kopechne's parents also spoke up recently, in the July issue of Ladies' Home Journal. ''He was worried about himself, not about Mary Jo,'' said Joseph Kopechne. Gwen Kopechne insisted, ''Somebody's hiding something.'"'

812 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:07:43am

re: #802 reine.de.tout

The tourism board got it right.
I think there are many people who do not realize just how effin huge Texas is.

I lived there for 15 years. It's big, really big, as big and bigger than most Western European countries.

813 laZardo  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:07:57am

re: #798 razorbacker

There are ex-marines. Murtha comes to mind. I've heard that President Obamas former pastor served in the Corps.

The old saw about 'once a Marine, always a Marine' makes for good PR, though.

Reverend Wright enlisted as a Marine but later moved to the Navy. He trained as a cardiopulmonary technician and was part of the team that operated on Lyndon Johnson in 1966.

/for the record.

814 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:08:05am

Mr. Kennedy: I may not have agreed with you on political matters, but I am certainly glad you died of natural causes at an old age. May your family be comforted.

815 midwestgak  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:08:39am

re: #775 realwest

Good morning {gak} and I couldn't agree with you more.
How are y'all doing this morning?

Enjoying a slice of buttered wheat toast and a cup of coffee with real cream.

816 jcm  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:09:00am

Statement from President Barack Obama on the death Tuesday of Sen. Edward Kennedy:

Michelle and I were heartbroken to learn this morning of the death of our dear friend, Senator Ted Kennedy.

For five decades, virtually every major piece of legislation to advance the civil rights, health and economic well-being of the American people bore his name and resulted from his efforts.

I valued his wise counsel in the Senate, where, regardless of the swirl of events, he always had time for a new colleague. I cherished his confidence and momentous support in my race for the presidency. And even as he waged a valiant struggle with a mortal illness, I've profited as president from his encouragement and wisdom.

An important chapter in our history has come to an end. Our country has lost a great leader, who picked up the torch of his fallen brothers and became the greatest United States Senator of our time.

And the Kennedy family has lost their patriarch, a tower of strength and support through good times and bad.

Our hearts and prayers go out to them today — to his wonderful wife, Vicki, his children Ted Jr., Patrick and Kara, his grandchildren and his extended family.

817 laZardo  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:09:04am

re: #807 HoosierHoops

Good Morning Lizards! Hope everyone is well.. It's shaping up to be another beautiful day in Indiana.

Morning HH, scalding day this morning but hopefully it should rain later...

818 Spenser (with an S)  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:09:36am

re: #787 Occasional Reader

re: #752 Spenser (with an S)

Had a little info meeting last night about our Christian School system here. Two years ago, we were $17M in debt. Last night, it was confirmed that, thanks to thousands of donors including a couple of "holy crap!" donations, we are debt free with a plan to never let that happen again. Feels very freeing since we've got 4 kids just coming up through the system.

Without a Federal bailout?! That's unpossible!

You'd think so, wouldn't you? We've had a lot of challenges due to the fact that it's an urban system and so many families have moved to the suburbs over the last couple decades. And yes, we're evangelicals, but my kids know the earth is not 8,000 years old from me and their science teachers.

819 Digital Display  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:10:17am

re: #817 laZardo

Morning HH, scalding day this morning but hopefully it should rain later...

Good Morning Lazardo.. How is school going these days?

820 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:10:44am

re: #812 Walter L. Newton

I lived there for 15 years. It's big, really big, as big and bigger than most Western European countries.

France 260,558 sq miles
Texas 268,820 sq miles

821 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:11:36am

re: #820 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

France 260,558 sq miles
Texas 268,820 sq miles

France has better bread though.

822 opnion  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:11:42am

re: #780 lurking faith

Marine, not ex-marine.

Hey there is no disrespect I am a Marine (ex-Marine) whatever

823 _RememberTonyC  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:11:46am

re: #808 _RememberTonyC

Quintin McHale was the "Lion of the Pacific."

No Ernest Borgnine fans here?

824 fish  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:11:50am

I awoke to the News of Ted Kennedy's passing. While I disagreed whole heartedly with most of his positions, I admired the passion he fought for what he believed was right. I wish we could find someone on our side of the aisle with the same strength of their convictions.

RIP

825 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:12:06am

re: #820 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Texas 268,820 sq miles
France 260,558 sq miles
Spain 195,364

826 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:12:27am

re: #821 Walter L. Newton

France has better bread though.

The Euro is better than the Dollar?

827 quickjustice  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:12:46am

re: #801 Occasional Reader

So you've identified the exception, genius! Now what?

828 reine.de.tout  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:13:04am

Chart of the area of all states plus DC.

829 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:13:07am

re: #826 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

The Euro is better than the Dollar?

In all taste tests, yes!

830 realwest  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:13:23am

re: #788 soxfan4life
Ft. Hood, eh? Well I wish you the best of luck and won't make any prying comments about the "Life Change" bit either!

831 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:13:39am

re: #821 Walter L. Newton

France has better bread though.

Better than Mrs. Baird's?

///

/they're owned by a mexican co. now

832 _RememberTonyC  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:13:41am

re: #825 Fat Bastard Vegetarian


Israel 8,473 sq mi

833 Occasional Reader  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:13:53am

Radio oddity of the day: Heard a story on NPR this morning that led with something like, "a fight between black and white students at a Virginia high school is generating controversy."

The "fight" was between six black students (at least one of whom was on the football team)... and two white students, one of whom suffered a fractured vertabra.

Does that sound like a "fight" to you? If the numbers had been reversed, do you think NPR would have called it a "fight"?

834 Digital Display  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:13:57am

re: #820 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

France 260,558 sq miles
Texas 268,820 sq miles

Three Texans in a bar bragging how rich they are..
first one says I got 10000 acres and 5 thousand head of cattle
second one says he has 20000 acres and 10 thousand head of cattle
Third one says that ain't nuthing..I got 37 acres!
37 Acres the other 2 yelled out! Where?
Downtown Dallas

835 Occasional Reader  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:14:18am

re: #821 Walter L. Newton

France has better bread though.

True, but Texas has better gun laws.

836 Dar ul Harb  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:14:35am

re: #711 Baier

Two thoughts on the passing of Sen. Ted Kennedy.

In 1980, even he could see that Jimmy Carter was a lousy President, and challenged him in the primary. President Reagan won in a landslide. May some other Democrat have similar political courage with respect to President Obama.

And our remembrances as well for the late Ms. Kopechne, but for whose death Ted Kennedy might have succeeded in his quest for the Presidency.

R.I.P.

837 realwest  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:14:43am

re: #790 pre-Boomer Marine brat Yes, he is known round here as John Fucking Murtha, Ex-Marine.

838 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:14:45am

re: #823 _RememberTonyC

No Ernest Borgnine fans here?

He makes a great Mermaid Man on Spongebob Squarepants.

839 razorbacker  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:14:47am

That's me for today, folks.

I'll say naught against the newly departed.

I'll just note that an examination of Mr. Kennedy's sponsored legislation might give one pause. Especially if one considers the promised results before implementation with the actual results after implementation.

The actual results of immigration reform back in the '60s vs what was promised?

840 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:14:48am

re: #835 Occasional Reader

True, but Texas has better gun laws.

Quite Concur.

841 jcm  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:14:48am

re: #812 Walter L. Newton

I lived there for 15 years. It's big, really big, as big and bigger than most Western European countries.

Texas rancher is visiting a New England farmer. The Texan asks "How much land do you have?" New Englander responds, "120 acres". The Texas can't resist, "Why my spread is so big, I can get in my truck at dawn and start driving, and by sundown still be on my land!?

New Englander looks at the Texan and says, "Ayup, had a truck like that once too."

842 gregb  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:15:05am

re: #8 TheMatrix31

I miss Ronald Reagan, and I was only born in 1987.

Lol. You didn't get to experience his glory years.

843 quickjustice  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:15:11am

re: #823 _RememberTonyC

Showing your age-- and so am I! Borgnine was a distinguished veteran of WWII, IIRC.

844 Occasional Reader  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:15:14am

re: #827 quickjustice

So you've identified the exception, genius! Now what?

Someone piss in your coffee this morning? Geez.

845 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:15:46am

re: #834 HoosierHoops

Three Texans in a bar bragging how rich they are..
first one says I got 10000 acres and 5 thousand head of cattle
second one says he has 20000 acres and 10 thousand head of cattle
Third one says that ain't nuthing..I got 37 acres!
37 Acres the other 2 yelled out! Where?
Downtown Dallas

That gets a hearty laugh form this native Dallasite.

846 laZardo  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:15:56am

re: #819 HoosierHoops

It's okay. Got a little plaque for being a Deans Lister all last year, but being the homely nerd I'm more than a little envious over my little brother who's actually getting regular gigs with his band.

re: #823 _RememberTonyC

I saw the Tom Arnold one, does that count?

847 windhorse  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:16:00am

what Teddy Kennedy got away with in life was just wrong... a travesty of justice...

no RIP from me.

848 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:16:07am

re: #802 reine.de.tout

The tourism board got it right.
I think there are many people who do not realize just how effin huge Texas is.

Texas rancher meets West Virginia farmer...
Tex, "So, how big's your spread?"
WV, "Oh, I got me about 70 acres."
Tex, "Son? I can get into my truck and drive for a full day and not be halfway across my land."
WV, "Yeah. Had me a truck like that once."

849 lurking faith  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:16:46am

re: #798 razorbacker

There are ex-marines. Murtha comes to mind. I've heard that President Obamas former pastor served in the Corps.

The old saw about 'once a Marine, always a Marine' makes for good PR, though.

I don't disagree - but in the particular instance he mentioned, I'm sticking with "still a Marine."

850 lawhawk  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:16:46am

I don't think anyone can say for sure what Kennedy thought of his actions re: Chappaquiddick, but they definitely meant the end of his Presidential aspirations. G-d will be the final arbiter on the matter, and he will have to face judgment on his actions.

In the meantime, the Senate lost a fixture and icon for the left. He was the prime backer of President Obama, and it was his assistance that helped secure his election in 2008.

It is the end of an era in American politics, and few people have stood on the national stage as long as Kennedy had, particularly given his family history - and that two of his brothers were assassinated.

My thoughts and prayers go out to his family and friends.

851 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:17:36am

re: #831 Ward Cleaver

Better than Mrs. Baird's?

///

/they're owned by a mexican co. now

Yes. Bread is a passion with the French. If on any given morning you can't find fresh bread for sale, some where with in walking distance, then you are not in France. I was once staying at an artist retreat in a small town in Eastern France, St. Vallerin. They had about 50 residents, one pay phone booth and not even a small store for supplies. But they did have a bakery that opened for two hours each morning and supplied the basic bread needs for the day.

Most fresh French bread only lasts about a day before it goes hard, because it's, well, fresh and lacks all the chemical junk.

852 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:17:45am

re: #841 jcm

What are the chances?

853 jcm  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:17:48am

re: #841 jcm

re: #848 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

This room is only big enough for one of us!

//;-P

854 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:18:02am

My final thoughts on the Passing of Senator Ted Kennedy:

He was always liberal.
He was often wrong.
But he was never a coward, and he was never a fake.

Courage and integrity are not all that common And Edward Kennedy had them both. RIP

855 _RememberTonyC  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:18:25am

re: #838 Ward Cleaver

He makes a great Mermaid Man on Spongebob Squarepants.

The man is versatile! But every time I heard the term "The Lion of the Senate," I think of the McHale's Navy episode where the guys on ther PT 73 are trying to help McHale (Borgnine) get a promotion, so they write a song about how he's the "Lion of the Pacific."

856 jcm  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:18:43am

re: #852 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

What are the chances?

The selection of none offensive Texas humor is limited?

857 quickjustice  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:18:52am

re: #844 Occasional Reader

Yeah, you.

858 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:19:01am

re: #835 Occasional Reader

True, but Texas has better gun laws.

This probably will not surprise you, but out of the big cities, I've seen lots of guns in peoples houses and businesses.

859 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:19:06am

re: #853 jcm

re: #848 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

This room is only big enough for one of us!

//;-P

Texas Rancher/West Virginia Farmer...

Tex, "How many head of cattle you got?"
WV, "I got me 32 cows".
Tex, "And, what are their names?"

860 Digital Display  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:19:21am

re: #851 Walter L. Newton

Yes. Bread is a passion with the French. If on any given morning you can't find fresh bread for sale, some where with in walking distance, then you are not in France. I was once staying at an artist retreat in a small town in Eastern France, St. Vallerin. They had about 50 residents, one pay phone booth and not even a small store for supplies. But they did have a bakery that opened for two hours each morning and supplied the basic bread needs for the day.

Most fresh French bread only lasts about a day before it goes hard, because it's, well, fresh and lacks all the chemical junk.

I think the bread in the Netherlands is wonderful.. Warm and fresh with real country butter...

861 laZardo  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:19:43am

re: #838 Ward Cleaver

He makes a great Mermaid Man on Spongebob Squarepants.

"EEEVILLL!"

862 _RememberTonyC  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:20:12am

re: #846 laZardo

It's okay. Got a little plaque for being a Deans Lister all last year, but being the homely nerd I'm more than a little envious over my little brother who's actually getting regular gigs with his band.

re: #823 _RememberTonyC

I saw the Tom Arnold one, does that count?

LOL ... you get half a point for that. Tom Arnold is no Ernest Borgnine!

863 jcm  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:20:13am

re: #859 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Texas Rancher/West Virginia Farmer...

Tex, "How many head of cattle you got?"
WV, "I got me 32 cows".
Tex, "And, what are their names?"

A guide was showing Niagara-Falls to a man from Texas and said; I’ll bet you don’t have anything like this in Texas.

The Texan said; nope, but in Texas we have plumbers who can fix it.

864 razorbacker  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:21:22am

re: #849 lurking faith

I don't disagree - but in the particular instance he mentioned, I'm sticking with "still a Marine."

One of my many prejudices is for Marines. In an argument between Marines and non-Marines I instinctively take the Marine side, all else equal.

Goes all the way back to when Marines were volunteers, and others were drafted.

Now they're all volunteers, but old habits die hard.

865 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:21:28am

Drive by posting which will cause me to have to duck...

When I lived in Texas, they never asked if you wanted your meal super-sized, they asked if you wanted it Texas-sized.

I was always tempted to say: "That's not big enough. Can you double the Texas size, and we'll call it Alaska sized?"

Didn't want to risk the mob.

866 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:21:35am

re: #845 Ward Cleaver

native Dallasite.

Is that what you're Collin yourself?
I see you were Wylie enough to move to the suburbs.

/oh shit ... what if he comes to get me?!?!

867 Occasional Reader  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:21:36am

re: #857 quickjustice

Yeah, you.

[yawn] whatever.

868 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:21:52am

re: #832 _RememberTonyC

Israel 8,473 sq mi

Rhode Island 1,545 sq mi.

869 Mad Al-Jaffee  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:22:47am

re: #829 Walter L. Newton

In all taste tests, yes!

Probably has more fiber too.

870 Digital Display  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:22:53am

re: #863 jcm

A guide was showing Niagara-Falls to a man from Texas and said; I’ll bet you don’t have anything like this in Texas.

The Texan said; nope, but in Texas we have plumbers who can fix it.

A Texan and a Kentuckian were in a bar ( notice all my jokes start out in a bar) The guy from Kentucky was Bragging that they had so much gold in Ft. Knox they could build a fence 6 foot high all the way around Texas.
The Texan leans back and thinks for a minute.. Ok he says..Go ahead and build the fence..If we like it we'll buy it!

871 realwest  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:23:04am

re: #816 jcm
Good morning jcm! Uh,

Michelle and I were heartbroken to learn this morning of the death of our dear friend, Senator Ted Kennedy.
For five decades, virtually every major piece of legislation to advance the civil rights, health and economic well-being of the American people bore his name and resulted from his efforts.
I valued his wise counsel in the Senate, where, regardless of the swirl of events, he always had time for a new colleague. I cherished his confidence and momentous support in my race for the presidency. And even as he waged a valiant struggle with a mortal illness, I've profited as president from his encouragement and wisdom.

An important chapter in our history has come to an end. Our country has lost a great leader, who picked up the torch of his fallen brothers and became the greatest United States Senator of our time.

And the Kennedy family has lost their patriarch, a tower of strength and support through good times and bad.

Our hearts and prayers go out to them today — to his wonderful wife, Vicki, his children Ted Jr., Patrick and Kara, his grandchildren and his extended family.


Just thought I'd fix that quote for the historical record, not to say anything bad about Ted Kennedy (RIP) but to sorta underscore Obama's soaring rhetoric.

872 quickjustice  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:23:05am

re: #858 Walter L. Newton

In Miami, everyone has a gun in their car. The cops arrested a burglar in Palm Beach County (an hour north of Miami) breaking into a house. When interrogated, he said he'd moved his business up to Palm Beach, because in Miami, "They all got guns. I could get killed."

873 gregb  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:23:27am

re: #62 Sharmuta

And Charles has made it quite clear in the past he doesn't want LGF to look like a right-wing Kos or Huffpo. If you can't respect the dead, than at least respect your host.

Maybe he'll make the Sunday prayer thread. Or at least his family.

874 Occasional Reader  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:23:48am

re: #827 quickjustice

So you've identified the exception, genius! Now what?

And by the way... so Hitler is "the" only exception to that silly aphorism? Really?

875 _RememberTonyC  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:24:16am

re: #868 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Rhode Island 1,545 sq mi.

Washington, DC 68.25 square miles

876 Mad Al-Jaffee  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:25:04am

re: #846 laZardo

I like the new avatar!

877 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:25:24am

re: #875 _RememberTonyC

Washington, DC 68.25 square miles

State of Vatican City...0.17 sq mi

878 laZardo  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:25:37am

re: #872 quickjustice

In Miami, everyone has a gun in their car. The cops arrested a burglar in Palm Beach County (an hour north of Miami) breaking into a house. When interrogated, he said he'd moved his business up to Palm Beach, because in Miami, "They all got guns. I could get killed."

And that...

[sunglasses]

...is very good for our business.

879 Dar ul Harb  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:25:46am

re: #769 Ward Cleaver

Exactly. Did the Kopechnes ever file a wrongful death suit? And if not, why not?

Not sure if there was such a tort back then. As I recall, at common law, any legal claims a person had died with them, so I think it's only since laws have been passed to permit a victim's family to sue on their behalf that there's been any tort called "wrongful death."

(Other attorneys out there can correct me on the details.)

880 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:25:54am

Since Maisey the Parrot moved up to the Secret Mountain Lair with me, I assumed she has been eating twice as much food. We positioned her cage on a stand in a little alcove, which is surrounded on three sides with natural plank wall siding. She has a towel over one end (near her seed bowl) to protect from breezes and a 40 watt light to add a little warmth when needed.

I would fill her seed bowl and two days later, it was almost empty, yet there was little evidence in the bottom of the cage that she was throwing it out.

This morning I noticed something. On top of the towel, little droppings.

Ha, evidently a mouse (yes, it's the mountain, the country, we have them) has been raiding the seed bowl during the night by climbing up on the natural wood walls and snagging the towel and getting into the bowl.

Towel now gone.

881 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:26:01am

re: #871 realwest

Good morning jcm! Uh,


Just thought I'd fix that quote for the historical record, not to say anything bad about Ted Kennedy (RIP) but to sorta underscore Obama's soaring rhetoric.

Works for me. Good morning, RW.

882 Occasional Reader  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:26:18am

re: #851 Walter L. Newton

Yes. Bread is a passion with the French. If on any given morning you can't find fresh bread for sale, some where with in walking distance, then you are not in France. I was once staying at an artist retreat in a small town in Eastern France, St. Vallerin. They had about 50 residents, one pay phone booth and not even a small store for supplies. But they did have a bakery that opened for two hours each morning and supplied the basic bread needs for the day.

Most fresh French bread only lasts about a day before it goes hard, because it's, well, fresh and lacks all the chemical junk.

We're tardy on the bread thing in this country, that's true, but I think we're getting around to it. There are now a reasonable number of places here in DC where you can get excellent, fresh bread.

We used to make sucky wine, but figured out how to make excellent wine. Ditto with beer. We're coming around on chocolate. We'll get the bread part figured out.

883 _RememberTonyC  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:26:36am

re: #877 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

State of Vatican City...0.17 sq mi

UNCLE

884 quickjustice  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:26:40am

re: #874 Occasional Reader

I'm happy to let you have the last word . . . and the last word . . . and the last word . . . Just keep going, like the energizer bunny.

885 jcm  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:27:18am

I smell a rat...

Light rail's passenger counting system not working

A technical glitch is hindering Sound Transit's ability to count riders on the month-old Link light rail line.

Sound Transit spokesman Geoff Patrick said Tuesday the system began malfunctioning in the last few weeks and shouldn't affect the accuracy of previous reports on ridership numbers.

Through Aug. 14, weekday boardings averaged 14,784 on the 14-mile line between downtown's Westlake Center and Tukwila, according to Sound Transit. That shows a gradual increase from the last two weeks of July, when weekday ridership averaged about 12,357 boardings. The light rail line opened July 18.



Is Anyone Riding Seattle Link Light Rail? Not Today

Courtesy of T. England. Taken today during morning rushour (or what should have been). [Image of empty train]

15,000 riders, 7500 each way, 23 morning runs into Seattle. 7500 or 325 per train.
That is friends pure utter crapola.

886 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:27:32am

re: #866 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Is that what you're Collin yourself?
I see you were Wylie enough to move to the suburbs.

/oh shit ... what if he comes to get me?!?!

Yes, Dallas is pretty screwed up these days. The city council is a farce, the school district board keeps stepping in it, and the county offices have been almost completely taken over by Dems in the last few years. Dallas, and Dallas County, is turning bluer and bluer.

887 redstateredneck  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:27:34am

re: #880 Walter L. Newton

Haha! I had a loose hamster in the house that lived on dog food all one winter. Found it's stash in a box in the closet under the stairs months later.

888 laZardo  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:28:14am

re: #876 Mad Al-Jaffee

Thanks. Got lucky on 4chan with this one.

889 quickjustice  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:28:15am

re: #769 Ward Cleaver

No. The Kennedys settled with them before a lawsuit was necessary.

890 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:28:16am

re: #778 Ward Cleaver

Wow, only two deleted comments so far, both from pat.

I'm a proud Lizard this morning. 884 comments on this auspicious morning... 2 deleted. Same person.

Yay, Classy!

891 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:28:27am

re: #882 Occasional Reader

We're tardy on the bread thing in this country, that's true, but I think we're getting around to it. There are now a reasonable number of places here in DC where you can get excellent, fresh bread.

We used to make sucky wine, but figured out how to make excellent wine. Ditto with beer. We're coming around on chocolate. We'll get the bread part figured out.

Now if we could just get the American Poodle thing worked out?

892 Occasional Reader  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:28:28am

re: #884 quickjustice

I'm happy to let you have the last word . . . and the last word . . . and the last word . . . Just keep going, like the energizer bunny.

What exactly is wrong with you this morning? I made a joke about an aphorism you posted... complete with sarc tags, in case there was any doubt!... and you respond like a thin-skinned jerk. What gives?

893 _RememberTonyC  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:28:43am

Biden is speaking now ... maybe he'll say something stupid ...

894 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:29:32am

re: #878 laZardo

And that...

[sunglasses]

...is very good for our business.

Not just your business...

895 Mad Al-Jaffee  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:29:42am

re: #882 Occasional Reader

Bread: Get yourself a cast iron dutch oven and try this recipe:

[Link: www.nytimes.com...]

896 quickjustice  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:29:46am

re: #892 Occasional Reader

. . . and the last word.

897 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:29:48am

re: #885 jcm

I smell a rat...

Light rail's passenger counting system not working

15,000 riders, 7500 each way, 23 morning runs into Seattle. 7500 or 325 per train.
That is friends pure utter crapola.

But hey, it makes the liberals feel good about themselves. And in the end, isn't that what matters?

/must i?

898 turn  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:29:57am

re: #880 Walter L. Newton

I hate mieces to pieces. Good morning walter, is it starting to cool off there?

899 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:30:11am

re: #889 quickjustice

No. The Kennedys settled with them before a lawsuit was necessary.

Okay. Thanks.

900 Occasional Reader  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:30:25am

re: #895 Mad Al-Jaffee

Bread: Get yourself a cast iron dutch oven and try this recipe:

[Link: www.nytimes.com...]

Or, just walk down the street to Firehook Bakery. (I'm lazy.)

901 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:30:32am

re: #890 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I'm a proud Lizard this morning. 884 comments on this auspicious morning... 2 deleted. Same person.

Yay, Classy!

Come on folks, you're not trying hard enough :)

902 Johnnyreb  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:31:08am

re: #887 redstateredneck

Haha! I had a loose hamster in the house that lived on dog food all one winter. Found it's stash in a box in the closet under the stairs months later.


We had the same happen once way back. Nice little pile of dog food stored up. His demise was I caught him going to get water late one night when I turned the light on. He couldn't stock pile that.

903 Baier  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:31:35am

re: #836 Dar ul Harb

And our remembrances as well for the late Ms. Kopechne, but for whose death killing Ted Kennedy caused might have succeeded in his quest for the Presidency.


Fixed it.

904 Occasional Reader  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:32:03am

re: #896 quickjustice

. . . and the last word.

Two things:

1) I repeat the question: What is wrong with you this morning?

2) Do you see the unintentional irony in repeatedly posting "oh, you have to have the last word, don't you"?

905 Mad Al-Jaffee  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:32:12am

re: #900 Occasional Reader

There's a farmer's market very close to me every Sunday morning, and an excellent baker is always there. I occasionaly buy a baguette, and maybe another loaf from them when I go. Great stuff, but overpriced and it goes stale in a couple of days (as Walter posted, no preservatives.)

906 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:32:14am

re: #898 turn

I hate mieces to pieces. Good morning walter, is it starting to cool off there?

Yes, it started about June 31st. We've had nights in the 40's over the summer and a week ago yesterday, an evening thunder shower with rain mixed with snow.

It's 52 degrees right now.

907 turn  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:32:17am

re: #882 Occasional Reader

There is a Russian run bakery right down the street here in Sac that bakes the best bread. Moring OR, what's up with QJ?

908 realwest  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:32:48am

re: #834 HoosierHoops
Hey Hoops! Hope you're doing well today! As long as we're telling Texas jokes, a NY Lawyer (who shall remain unidentified) went to Texas to conclude a deal.
Afterwards, to celebrate, the host lawyer took the NY Lawyer to what he called a typical Texas Bar.
They walked in and the bar was a least 1/4 mile long!
He ordered a martini and the bartender brought him one in a large, crystal cut vase - the NY lawyer said "holy shit that's the biggest martini I've even seen!" The Texas lawyer said well hell son, we do everything BIG down here in Texas. Well the NY lawyer managed to drink it all, but then had to go to the bathroom and the barkeep pointed waaay down the end of the bar and said second door on the left is the men's room; first door on the left is our swimming pool!"
So the NY Lawyer staggers gamely down the length of the bar, turns into the first doorway and falls into the swimming pool! He looks up, see's the lifeguard and sputters "NO, NO - DON'T FLUSH!"
LOL!

909 BlueCanuck  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:33:05am

re: #893 _RememberTonyC

Biden is speaking now ... maybe he'll say something stupid ...

Has he said anything intelligent?

910 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:33:16am

re: #865 EmmmieG

Drive by posting which will cause me to have to duck...

When I lived in Texas, they never asked if you wanted your meal super-sized, they asked if you wanted it Texas-sized.

I was always tempted to say: "That's not big enough. Can you double the Texas size, and we'll call it Alaska sized?"

Didn't want to risk the mob.

It'll be Alaska sized before it is thawed, but it will be mostly ice.

911 Occasional Reader  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:33:43am

re: #903 Baier

Fixed it.


Uh, no.

Let's be clear; Ted Kennedy did not "kill" or "murder" Kopechne, okay? What he actually did - a cowardly act of pure self-interest - was bad enough. No need to hyperbolize.

912 jcm  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:34:18am

re: #909 BlueCanuck

Has he said anything intelligent?

Ever?

913 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:34:27am

re: #910 Kosh's Shadow

It'll be Alaska sized before it is thawed, but it will be mostly ice.

We in Texas used to say about Alaska, "We don't count the 90% that's frozen wasteland".

914 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:35:04am

re: #911 Occasional Reader

Uh, no.

Let's be clear; Ted Kennedy did not "kill" or "murder" Kopechne, okay? What he actually did - a cowardly act of pure self-interest - was bad enough. No need to hyperbolize.

Agreed.

915 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:35:07am

re: #886 Ward Cleaver

Yes, Dallas is pretty screwed up these days. The city council is a farce, the school district board keeps stepping in it, and the county offices have been almost completely taken over by Dems in the last few years. Dallas, and Dallas County, is turning bluer and bluer.

heh ... I've ignored local politics since I moved back here in '96. I got an eyefull of DISD and John Wiley Price, vomited, and crawled into my cave.

If I set a clock radio to take a Wednesday nap, the awakening is traumatic. (My radios are glued to WRR. Go figure.)

916 Occasional Reader  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:35:27am

re: #905 Mad Al-Jaffee

There's a farmer's market very close to me every Sunday morning, and an excellent baker is always there. I occasionaly buy a baguette, and maybe another loaf from them when I go. Great stuff, but overpriced and it goes stale in a couple of days (as Walter posted, no preservatives.)

I also find the bread at Wholefoods (now Certified Libertian-Safe!) to be quite good. And yes, it's completely stale within two days, and yes, I agree with you and Walter that it's SUPPOSED to!

917 turn  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:35:51am

re: #906 Walter L. Newton

Yes, it started about June 31st. We've had nights in the 40's over the summer and a week ago yesterday, an evening thunder shower with rain mixed with snow.

It's 52 degrees right now.

It's actually getting hotter here, 101 by Friday. What elevation are you at again?

918 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:36:09am

re: #887 redstateredneck

Haha! I had a loose hamster in the house that lived on dog food all one winter. Found it's stash in a box in the closet under the stairs months later.

Back in the days when I had a stash, if you know what I mean, I had a mouse get into it. Funny, after that, twinkies, chips, etc kept disappearing by the bagful ///

919 realwest  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:36:39am

re: #850 lawhawk
Good morning lawhawk and Very Well Said.

920 jcm  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:36:58am

re: #916 Occasional Reader

I also find the bread at Wholefoods (now Certified Libertian-Safe!) to be quite good. And yes, it's completely stale within two days, and yes, I agree with you and Walter that it's SUPPOSED to!

It just means there not using enough preservatives!

///

921 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:37:13am

re: #915 pre-Boomer Marine brat

heh ... I've ignored local politics since I moved back here in '96. I got an eyefull of DISD and John Wiley Price, vomited, and crawled into my cave.

If I set a clock radio to take a Wednesday nap, the awakening is traumatic. (My radios are glued to WRR. Go figure.)

WRR, the first radio station in Texas. About the only smart thing the city council has done in recent years is holding onto WRR.

922 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:37:46am

re: #918 Kosh's Shadow

Back in the days when I had a stash, if you know what I mean, I had a mouse get into it. Funny, after that, twinkies, chips, etc kept disappearing by the bagful ///

Not sure if I know what you mean. What is "stash?"
/

923 Digital Display  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:37:57am

re: #916 Occasional Reader

I also find the bread at Wholefoods (now Certified Libertian-Safe!) to be quite good. And yes, it's completely stale within two days, and yes, I agree with you and Walter that it's SUPPOSED to!

Warm fresh bread.. I'm getting really hungry here OR!
I got a meeting during lunch...

924 laZardo  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:38:15am

re: #910 Kosh's Shadow

Delivered by helicopter up until recently.

/braces

925 _RememberTonyC  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:38:29am

re: #909 BlueCanuck

Has he said anything intelligent?

he is genuinely moved in his words about Kennedy. Very genuine, very real.

926 turn  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:38:31am

re: #908 realwest

LOL Morning real, how is the day treating you and mom?

927 Occasional Reader  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:38:36am

re: #922 Cannadian Club Akbar

Not sure if I know what you mean. What is "stash?"
/

I'm pretty sure it's a brand of tea. How terrible that a mouse got into Kosh's tea!

/

928 BlueCanuck  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:38:53am

And the plot thickens. Russia admits mystery ship may have had suspect cargo.

Still a lot of speculation going on too.

929 jcm  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:39:12am

re: #922 Cannadian Club Akbar

Not sure if I know what you mean. What is "stash?"
/

Tea silly...

// ;-P

930 Occasional Reader  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:39:19am

re: #923 HoosierHoops

Warm fresh bread.. I'm getting really hungry here OR!
I got a meeting during lunch...

Stroll into the meeting with a baguette under your arm. Perhaps wear a beret, too.

931 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:39:34am

re: #925 _RememberTonyC

he is genuinely moved in his words about Kennedy. Very genuine, very real.

I expect they were quite close, being Dems, and New Englanders.

932 albusteve  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:40:07am

Susan Collins and Olympia Snowe and U.S. Rep. Michael Michaud were no shows.

[Link: www.bangordailynews.com...]

933 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:40:19am

re: #930 Occasional Reader

Stroll into the meeting with a baguette under your arm. Perhaps wear a beret, too.

And get your ass kicked (at least in some places).

/it's a mime! get him!

934 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:41:02am

re: #921 Ward Cleaver

WRR, the first radio station in Texas. About the only smart thing the city council has done in recent years is holding onto WRR.

Yes. It is a blessing!

/and they even run a comedy show on Wednesdays !

935 Occasional Reader  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:41:04am

re: #933 Ward Cleaver

And get your ass kicked (at least in some places).

Depends on what color beret you wear...

936 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:41:22am

re: #932 albusteve

Susan Collins and Olympia Snowe and U.S. Rep. Michael Michaud were no shows.

[Link: www.bangordailynews.com...]

I don't know about Michaud, but those two dingbats probably couldn't find the place.

937 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:41:24am

re: #933 Ward Cleaver

And get your ass kicked (at least in some places).

/it's a mime! get him!

Shakes the Clown?

938 Baier  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:41:35am

re: #911 Occasional Reader

Uh, no.

Let's be clear; Ted Kennedy did not "kill" or "murder" Kopechne, okay? What he actually did - a cowardly act of pure self-interest - was bad enough. No need to hyperbolize.

You're right. Kennedy accidentally got shit faced before driving his car off the bridge. He's not a killer./

939 calcajun  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:42:02am

I have a question--and I'm sure this will be more pertinent as the day progresses. It is fitting that we all mourn the loss of Ted Kennedy and offer support and prayers to his family during this time, how do we respond to others on the other side of the aisle who might seek to use his passing as fodder for their own agenda? How do we answer without being drawn into the trap of maligning the dead at this time?

940 redstateredneck  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:42:07am

re: #902 Johnnyreb

We had the same happen once way back. Nice little pile of dog food stored up. His demise was I caught him going to get water late one night when I turned the light on. He couldn't stock pile that.

The demise of ours was he happened to be crossing the blades of the attic fan just as it was switched on. Took a couple of days to find the source of the foul odor at the top of the stairs!

941 Digital Display  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:42:19am

re: #935 Occasional Reader

Depends on what color beret you wear...


Should I go with the rasberry? It makes my eyes pop!
/ducks

942 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:42:27am

re: #932 albusteve

Susan Collins and Olympia Snowe and U.S. Rep. Michael Michaud were no shows.

[Link: www.bangordailynews.com...]

Nice piece of political cowardice on their part.

943 BlueCanuck  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:42:35am

re: #933 Ward Cleaver

And get your ass kicked (at least in some places).

/it's a mime! get him!

A mime is a terrible thing to waste.

944 _RememberTonyC  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:42:37am

re: #931 Ward Cleaver

I expect they were quite close, being Dems, and New Englanders.

Biden just idolized Kennedy. That is apparent in his words

945 realwest  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:43:02am

re: #881 Dark_Falcon
Good morning my friend, how are you doing today?

946 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:43:05am

re: #934 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Yes. It is a blessing!

/and they even run a comedy show on Wednesdays !

I'm a long-time listener, but I finally had to switch my clock radio over to KRLD, because it can't pull in WRR's signal.

947 laZardo  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:43:06am

re: #928 BlueCanuck

Every time I get the news on that situation I keep thinking of...

948 Mad Al-Jaffee  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:43:32am

re: #916 Occasional Reader

I have found really good bread at Costco. I think it's from LaBrea Bakery, in California. They probably get the loaves shipped frozen then bake them in-store. Sometimes they're still warm when they're on the shelf.

949 Occasional Reader  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:43:35am

re: #921 Ward Cleaver

WRR, the first radio station in Texas.

Great news!

//

950 BlueCanuck  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:44:02am

re: #947 laZardo

No youtube at work. What's the clip from again?

951 calcajun  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:44:18am

re: #925 _RememberTonyC

he is genuinely moved in his words about Kennedy. Very genuine, very real.

Biden has a bad habit of shooting from the hip and just speaking his mind. Sometimes it fails him. Now, he sounds very genuine. I still don't trust a word that leaves his lips.

952 Sheila Broflovski  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:44:28am

re: #923 HoosierHoops

Warm fresh bread.. I'm getting really hungry here OR!
I got a meeting during lunch...

Whenever I want some warm fresh bread...I bake it!

953 redstateredneck  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:44:28am

re: #918 Kosh's Shadow

Back in the days when I had a stash, if you know what I mean, I had a mouse get into it. Funny, after that, twinkies, chips, etc kept disappearing by the bagful ///

I'm picturing Pixie & Dixie watching the tube and chowing down on the munchies!

954 Occasional Reader  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:44:45am

re: #948 Mad Al-Jaffee

I think it's from LaBrea Bakery, in California.

Thanks, but I prefer low-tar bread.

955 calcajun  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:45:16am

re: #938 Baier

Guys-- not today, OK. Not even in jest. Thanks.

956 Mad Al-Jaffee  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:45:32am

re: #927 Occasional Reader

I'm pretty sure it's a brand of tea. How terrible that a mouse got into Kosh's tea!

/

A special tea that's made from a weed.

957 laZardo  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:45:44am

re: #950 BlueCanuck

Call of Duty 4. The first mission, where the SAS raid a ship carrying what they find is a nuclear device headed toward a hostile nation.

Later on the "news reports" mention a "search called off for a missing freighter."

958 calcajun  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:46:24am

re: #948 Mad Al-Jaffee

I have found really good bread at Costco. I think it's from LaBrea Bakery, in California. They probably get the loaves shipped frozen then bake them in-store. Sometimes they're still warm when they're on the shelf.

Here in San Diego, the Costco gets rye bread from DZ Akins-- a great local deli and bakery.

959 albusteve  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:46:40am

borrowers, lenders, and the feds...the three stooges of the housing business


[Link: www.azcentral.com...]

960 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:46:45am

re: #945 realwest

Good morning my friend, how are you doing today?

I'm well. I'm starting my preparation for a big board game on Saturday. I'm assembling one of the miniatures I'm bringing to the game today. Tomorrow after work I'll start painting it and another one that I'm bringing. It takes about 2.5 hours total to prepare 1 mini for a game.

961 Mad Al-Jaffee  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:47:13am

re: #939 calcajun

I have a question--and I'm sure this will be more pertinent as the day progresses. It is fitting that we all mourn the loss of Ted Kennedy and offer support and prayers to his family during this time, how do we respond to others on the other side of the aisle who might seek to use his passing as fodder for their own agenda? How do we answer without being drawn into the trap of maligning the dead at this time?

Start a conspiracy theory that 0 and the Dems gave him brain cancer so they could use his death to pass health care reform!

962 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:47:16am

re: #949 Occasional Reader

Great news!

//

Their former AM station (it's now KTCK 1310, "The Ticket"), started broadcasting in 1920, and was the second commercial radio station in the US, behind KDKA in Pittsburgh.

963 teardrop  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:47:28am

My first post! (brand new hatchling). This is an open thread, right? So, I have a question- Regarding the "Healthcare" bills, and especially the way the way congress wants to mandate that we purchase it ourselves, Can they do that? What will they use to justify requiring everyone to spend their own AFTER TAX money to buy it? Is that Constitutional? This seems to be a very thorny question.

964 Occasional Reader  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:48:05am

re: #957 laZardo

The first mission, where the SAS raid a ship

Those Swedish stewardesses really kick ass!

965 calcajun  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:48:23am

re: #961 Mad Al-Jaffee

Oh, like the canard about the how the GOP kept Chris Reeve from walking. OK, I can see that.

966 Mad Al-Jaffee  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:48:39am

re: #953 redstateredneck

I'm picturing Pixie & Dixie watching the tube and chowing down on the munchies!

I'm thinking of the old Freak Brothers strip where a mouse decided to try that white powder Fat Freddy is always putting up his nose.

967 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:48:45am

re: #954 Occasional Reader

Thanks, but I prefer low-tar bread.

But its taste is "dino-mite"!

/a bit of dinosaur humor

968 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:48:50am

re: #961 Mad Al-Jaffee

Start a conspiracy theory that 0 and the Dems gave him brain cancer so they could use his death to pass health care reform!

Alex Jones, is that you?

///

969 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:49:01am

re: #922 Cannadian Club Akbar

Not sure if I know what you mean. What is "stash?"
/

Something Cheech and Chong might have.
Note this was many years ago.

970 midwestgak  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:49:11am

re: #963 teardrop


Welcome teardrop. Why did you chose you nic?

971 Kenneth  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:49:13am

re: #930 Occasional Reader

Stroll into the meeting with a baguette under your arm. Perhaps wear a beret, too.

Accordion music playing from your iPhone...

972 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:49:30am

re: #968 Dark_Falcon

Alex Jones, is that you?

///

Busted!

973 reine.de.tout  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:49:41am

re: #940 redstateredneck

The demise of ours was he happened to be crossing the blades of the attic fan just as it was switched on. Took a couple of days to find the source of the foul odor at the top of the stairs!

ew!
I had a rat one winter who tried to make a home in my nice, warm car, right near the heater element. He got stuck, and died. I went out to the car one day, turned the heater on and about passed out.

It took the dealer 4 days and a complete ripping out of my dashboard to find and get rid of the varmint.

974 lawhawk  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:50:50am

Oh, this is rich:

IRS denies taxpayer the Geithner's Turbo Tax defense.

Petitioners were not permitted to bury their heads in the sand and ignore their obligation to ensure that their tax return accurately reflected their income for 2006. In the end, reliance on tax return preparation software does not excuse petitioners’ failure to review their 2006 tax return.
975 Digital Display  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:50:56am

re: #963 teardrop

My first post! (brand new hatchling). This is an open thread, right? So, I have a question- Regarding the "Healthcare" bills, and especially the way the way congress wants to mandate that we purchase it ourselves, Can they do that? What will they use to justify requiring everyone to spend their own AFTER TAX money to buy it? Is that Constitutional? This seems to be a very thorny question.


Welcome to LGF!
The Gov't forces me to buy car insurance...I'm pretty sure if this passes they can force whoever to buy whatever..
In the Netherlands they take out healthcare of your unemployment insurance..It's an automatic deduction

976 danshelb  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:50:59am

RIP Ted
Thoughts and prayers are with your family.

977 Cannadian Club Akbar  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:51:05am

re: #970 midwestgak

Welcome teardrop. Why did you chose you nic?


Because you made him/her/it cry!
/

978 SurferDoc  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:51:09am

re: #963 teardrop

My first post! (brand new hatchling). This is an open thread, right? So, I have a question- Regarding the "Healthcare" bills, and especially the way the way congress wants to mandate that we purchase it ourselves, Can they do that? What will they use to justify requiring everyone to spend their own AFTER TAX money to buy it? Is that Constitutional? This seems to be a very thorny question.

Welcome, teardrop! Great post and great questions!

979 [deleted]  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:51:14am
980 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:51:18am

re: #963 teardrop

My first post! (brand new hatchling). This is an open thread, right? So, I have a question- Regarding the "Healthcare" bills, and especially the way the way congress wants to mandate that we purchase it ourselves, Can they do that? What will they use to justify requiring everyone to spend their own AFTER TAX money to buy it? Is that Constitutional? This seems to be a very thorny question.

Welcome teardrop! As to your question, it's not clear if the Constitution will allow it. The Supreme Court has been narrowing application of the commerce clause so it is possible that they might rule such a mandate unconstitutional. I hope we don't have to find out.

981 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:51:28am

re: #946 Ward Cleaver

I'm a long-time listener, but I finally had to switch my clock radio over to KRLD, because it can't pull in WRR's signal.

Yeah, I'm near the Galleria, and the piss-ant antennas in mine have trouble with it at times. If I lived in a house (instead of an apartment), I'd put up an outside antenna.

982 realwest  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:51:30am

re: #926 turn
Hey turn, we're doing ok, thanks. How's about yourself?

983 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:51:47am

re: #973 reine.de.tout

ew!
I had a rat one winter who tried to make a home in my nice, warm car, right near the heater element. He got stuck, and died. I went out to the car one day, turned the heater on and about passed out.

It took the dealer 4 days and a complete ripping out of my dashboard to find and get rid of the varmint.

A friend of ours down in the Hill Country (outside of New Braunfels) had a mouse die in the A/C ductwork of her car, just before we went down to visit. Fragrant.

984 eschew_obfuscation  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:52:03am

re: #963 teardrop

My first post! (brand new hatchling). This is an open thread, right? So, I have a question- Regarding the "Healthcare" bills, and especially the way the way congress wants to mandate that we purchase it ourselves, Can they do that? What will they use to justify requiring everyone to spend their own AFTER TAX money to buy it? Is that Constitutional? This seems to be a very thorny question.

Welcome!

I saw a segment on Fox News last nite where this was discussed. It seems to involve the commerce clause of article 1 of the constitution. There appears to be a real legal question about whether or not delivery of medical care should be considered 'interestate commerce' and therefore subject to the commerce clause. The commerce clause allows the federal government to regulate commerce between states.

I suspect this would have to be litigated if it were to become law before we'll know the answer concerning its legality.

985 calcajun  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:52:09am

re: #973 reine.de.tout

ew!
I had a rat one winter who tried to make a home in my nice, warm car, right near the heater element. He got stuck, and died. I went out to the car one day, turned the heater on and about passed out.

It took the dealer 4 days and a complete ripping out of my dashboard to find and get rid of the varmint.

My neighbor as a kid ask me (as her Mr. Fix-it while her hubby was at sea) to investigate a foul odor in her kitchen. A rat had crawled into her electric oven and had become a conductor-so to speak. Rotten roasted rat is a pretty foul odor.

986 laZardo  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:52:55am

re: #963 teardrop

My first post! (brand new hatchling). This is an open thread, right? So, I have a question- Regarding the "Healthcare" bills, and especially the way the way congress wants to mandate that we purchase it ourselves, Can they do that? What will they use to justify requiring everyone to spend their own AFTER TAX money to buy it? Is that Constitutional? This seems to be a very thorny question.

MMMOOOBBBYYY!

/welcome aboard. :D

987 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:53:12am

re: #933 Ward Cleaver

And get your ass kicked (at least in some places).

/it's a mime! get him!

Well, there was a scene in an obscure movie, The Monitors, that involves a food fight with a baguette. IIRC, Sherry Jackson, playing "Mona", was involved. (And she wore a very short dress in that movie.)

988 turn  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:53:21am

re: #963 teardrop

O'Reilly was discussing the constitutionality of it with Weil and Kelly last night. Kelly said it wasn't and Weil said it was which isn't too surprising. Welcome.

989 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:53:27am

re: #954 Occasional Reader

Thanks, but I prefer low-tar bread.

Yeah. The other's the Pits!

990 Mad Al-Jaffee  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:53:48am

Are we supposed to initiate hatchlings? Make them buy us a round? What's the ritual?

991 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:54:29am

I don't go to other blogs, (Deux, Storm, Shrugs, etc) what's going on in the more hateful (as I've noticed) part of the world?

Anybody go to those places?

992 eschew_obfuscation  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:54:46am

re: #975 HoosierHoops

Welcome to LGF!
The Gov't forces me to buy car insurance...I'm pretty sure if this passes they can force whoever to buy whatever..
In the Netherlands they take out healthcare of your unemployment insurance..It's an automatic deduction

That's state regulation. Federal regulation of commerce would have to involve 'interstate commerce' in order to be considered constitutional.

993 Mad Al-Jaffee  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:54:55am

re: #989 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Yeah. The other's the Pits!

They'll all probably end up extinct.

994 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:55:05am

re: #953 redstateredneck

I'm picturing Pixie & Dixie watching the tube and chowing down on the munchies!

And then, Trixie catches them because they're so slow.
"Oh, wow, look at the cat"
"Cat?"

995 Occasional Reader  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:55:41am

re: #984 eschew_obfuscation

There appears to be a real legal question about whether or not delivery of medical care should be considered 'interestate commerce' and therefore subject to the commerce clause.

The Commerce Clause long ago became The Thing That Ate Federalism. This was done out of good intentions (civil rights), but nonetheless, the Framers would scratch their heads at our current interpretation of the Commerce Clause.

996 MandyManners  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:55:55am

re: #973 reine.de.tout

ew!
I had a rat one winter who tried to make a home in my nice, warm car, right near the heater element. He got stuck, and died. I went out to the car one day, turned the heater on and about passed out.

It took the dealer 4 days and a complete ripping out of my dashboard to find and get rid of the varmint.

Reminds me of those little scented pine trees some people hang from their rearview mirrors. Well, not quite.

997 reine.de.tout  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:56:04am

re: #975 HoosierHoops

Welcome to LGF!
The Gov't forces me to buy car insurance...I'm pretty sure if this passes they can force whoever to buy whatever..
In the Netherlands they take out healthcare of your unemployment insurance..It's an automatic deduction

HH - The government requires you to have car insurance for the privilege of driving your car. There is no "right" to drive on the public streets. And, you get to choose who you buy the insurance from, don't you?

To require people to buy health insurance would be like saying you must have this for the privilege of living. I thought "life" was a "right" in this country, not a privilege.

998 turn  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:56:08am

re: #982 realwest

Hey turn, we're doing ok, thanks. How's about yourself?

I'm fine, the family is doing well. turnspawn2 starts his senior year today. I told him yesterday this is your last day of summer vacation ever. He said "I know". dang these kids are growing up on me!

999 BlueCanuck  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:56:08am

re: #990 Mad Al-Jaffee

Usually it's buy around, but it's not beer o'clock yet. I will take a large cappuccino though.

/bar-buffet is over there → → → teardrop, get busy. ;)

1000 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:56:41am

re: #961 Mad Al-Jaffee

Start a conspiracy theory that 0 and the Dems gave him brain cancer so they could use his death to pass health care reform!

Well, how long before we hear that we have to pass the health care takeover because Kennedy wanted it, to honor his memory?
Even though if he had the kind of care we'll get with it, he would have died months ago.

1001 Mad Al-Jaffee  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:57:08am

re: #991 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I don't go to other blogs, (Deux, Storm, Shrugs, etc) what's going on in the more hateful (as I've noticed) part of the world?

Anybody go to those places?

Michelle Malkin urged restraint, saying something like now is not the time for criticism. Haven't read any replies.

Schlussel, I think, refuses to mourn.

Frontpage has a link to "The Real Ted Kennedy."

The most interesting thing I read today was on Wonkette. One poster, who calls herself liberal, liked Kennedy's politics, but hated him for the drowning incident.

1002 reine.de.tout  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:57:09am

re: #996 MandyManners

Reminds me of those little scented pine trees some people hang from their rearview mirrors. Well, not quite.

I coulda used one of those scented pine trees at the time.

1003 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:57:10am

re: #963 teardrop

My first post! (brand new hatchling). This is an open thread, right? So, I have a question- Regarding the "Healthcare" bills, and especially the way the way congress wants to mandate that we purchase it ourselves, Can they do that? What will they use to justify requiring everyone to spend their own AFTER TAX money to buy it? Is that Constitutional? This seems to be a very thorny question.

Welcome.

IIRC, Charles posted a thread w/ a link to a column regarding that issue.
Go to the front page and look back over the past week or so.
(Top of the page, on the bar, is a link for backwards scrolling)

1004 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:57:33am

re: #987 Kosh's Shadow

Well, there was a scene in an obscure movie, The Monitors, that involves a food fight with a baguette. IIRC, Sherry Jackson, playing "Mona", was involved. (And she wore a very short dress in that movie.)

Oh, Sherry Jackson, from the Danny Thomas show. Wow. Susan Oliver was hot, too.

1005 MandyManners  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:57:47am

re: #974 lawhawk

Oh, this is rich:

IRS denies taxpayer the Geithner's Turbo Tax defense.

Okay for me, not for thee.

1006 albusteve  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:57:54am

here it comes...BO to to rescue!

[Link: newsbusters.org...]

1007 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:58:11am

re: #995 Occasional Reader

The Commerce Clause long ago became The Thing That Ate Federalism. This was done out of good intentions (civil rights), but nonetheless, the Framers would scratch their heads at our current interpretation of the Commerce Clause.

I think that a small part of of that is that so much of what we buy is shipped between states. When the nation was founded, the majority of commerce was local. Industrialization changed that, and the importance of the Commerce Clause changed with it.

1008 Mad Al-Jaffee  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:58:25am

re: #996 MandyManners

Reminds me of those little scented pine trees some people hang from their rearview mirrors. Well, not quite.

"Find one in every car. You'll see."

-Miller, Repo Man

1009 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:58:31am

re: #1005 MandyManners

Okay for me, not for thee.

Turbo Tax ate my tax return!

1010 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:58:33am

re: #977 Cannadian Club Akbar

Because you made him/her/it cry!
/

A child asked me, "Why is it raining?"
I said, "Because God is crying."
The child asked me, "Why is God crying?"
I said, "Probably because of something you did."

-Deep Thoughts with Jack Handy

1011 Occasional Reader  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:58:38am

re: #979 buzzsawmonkey

Thanks.

I also know that bananas like the climate of the very, very tropical Equator. So you should never put bananas... in your refriger-ator! No no no no!

1012 MandyManners  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:58:53am

re: #997 reine.de.tout

HH - The government requires you to have car insurance for the privilege of driving your car. There is no "right" to drive on the public streets. And, you get to choose who you buy the insurance from, don't you?

To require people to buy health insurance would be like saying you must have this for the privilege of living. I thought "life" was a "right" in this country, not a privilege.

DING.

1013 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:58:57am

re: #1008 Mad Al-Jaffee

"Find one in every car. You'll see."

-Miller, Repo Man

One of my favorite movies.

/holy sheep shit!

1014 realwest  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:58:58am

re: #932 albusteve
Good morning to you. I'm not surprised that Snowe didn't attend the event, but am surprised that Collins and the Congressman didn't, they are both up for re-election this year.

1015 eschew_obfuscation  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:59:24am

re: #995 Occasional Reader

The Commerce Clause long ago became The Thing That Ate Federalism. This was done out of good intentions (civil rights), but nonetheless, the Framers would scratch their heads at our current interpretation of the Commerce Clause.

heh... no doubt ... I suspect they'd be scratching their heads about a lot of things. Thanks for the elucidation!

1016 jcm  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 7:59:43am

When our health care is as good as Canada's were will we go to get care?

Canadians visit U.S. to get health care / Deal lets many go to Michigan hospitals

Hospitals in border cities, including Detroit, are forging lucrative arrangements with Canadian health agencies to provide care not widely available across the border.

Agreements between Detroit hospitals and the Ontario Ministry of Health and Long-Term Care for heart, imaging tests, bariatric and other services provide access to some services not immediately available in the province, said ministry spokesman David Jensen.

The agreements show how a country with a national care system — a proposal not part of the health care changes under discussion in Congress — copes with demand for care with U.S. partnerships, rather than building new facilities.

1017 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:00:04am

re: #1015 eschew_obfuscation

heh... no doubt ... I suspect they'd be scratching their heads about a lot of things. Thanks for the elucidation!

They'd be pulling their hair out.

1018 turn  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:00:05am

re: #983 Ward Cleaver

A friend of ours down in the Hill Country (outside of New Braunfels) had a mouse die in the A/C ductwork of her car, just before we went down to visit. Fragrant.

I coulld tell you my rat in the attic story but I would probably fall way behind on the thread. It ends with me up on the patio overhang practically puking and dangling a dead rat by the tail yelling at the turnwife to bring a garbagfe can. Then, woosh - splat! I ended up with the skin of it's tail in my fingers.

1019 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:00:31am

re: #1016 jcm

When our health care is as good as Canada's were will we go to get care?

Canadians visit U.S. to get health care / Deal lets many go to Michigan hospitals

Mexico.

/only half kidding

1020 albusteve  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:00:36am

re: #1011 Occasional Reader

Thanks.

I also know that bananas like the climate of the very, very tropical Equator. So you should never put bananas... in your refriger-ator! No no no no!

my bananas are sub-tropical and grow like crazy...

1021 MandyManners  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:00:38am

re: #1002 reine.de.tout

I coulda used one of those scented pine trees at the time.

Maybe a real, live one.

Not to be nosey but, how much did the dealership charge you?

1022 laZardo  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:00:58am

re: #1016 jcm

When our health care is as good as Canada's were will we go to get care?

Canadians visit U.S. to get health care / Deal lets many go to Michigan hospitals

I can get Vermont but...DETROIT!?

1023 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:00:58am

re: #1018 turn

I coulld tell you my rat in the attic story but I would probably fall way behind on the thread. It ends with me up on the patio overhang practically puking and dangling a dead rat by the tail yelling at the turnwife to bring a garbagfe can. Then, woosh - splat! I ended up with the skin of it's tail in my fingers.

Ewww!

1024 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:01:24am

re: #1022 laZardo

I can get Vermont but...DETROIT!?

What, are they all gunshot victims?

1025 BlueCanuck  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:01:48am

re: #1003 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Welcome.

IIRC, Charles posted a thread w/ a link to a column regarding that issue.
Go to the front page and look back over the past week or so.
(Top of the page, on the bar, is a link for backwards scrolling)

Here's the link to the question topic with KeithG's links as well.

1026 reine.de.tout  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:01:51am

re: #1021 MandyManners

Maybe a real, live one.

Not to be nosey but, how much did the dealership charge you?

I believe it was close to $1000.
I had an "extended warrranty" that covered it.

1027 MandyManners  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:01:54am

re: #1008 Mad Al-Jaffee

"Find one in every car. You'll see."

-Miller, Repo Man

Rats are standard?

1028 albusteve  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:01:55am

re: #1014 realwest

Good morning to you. I'm not surprised that Snowe didn't attend the event, but am surprised that Collins and the Congressman didn't, they are both up for re-election this year.

you just have to hope that voters make them pay for being shunned...makes it interesting...it's the key to the whole process

1029 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:02:17am

re: #979 buzzsawmonkey

As far as bread being "supposed to" go stale within two days...well, no.

Breadboxes are supposed to keep enough moisture near the bread to slow the process of going stale to four or even five days; that is why a good breadbox usually has an unfinished wooden panel backing the door of the box (since wood holds moisture, it works like a humidor to keep the bread moist), and airholes so that enough circulation occurs to discourage rapid growth of mold.

The other thing that keeps non-preservatived bread fresh is waxed paper bags. Waxed paper used to be the standard for breadbags when you bought bread at a bakery, but have now all but vanished. The waxed bag would keep the bread moist and fresh, typically, for three or four days, without making the crust go soggy, which is what usually happens in a plastic bag.

Ordinary paper bags do not hold enough moisture to keep bread fresh. Plastic bags hold too much, and do not permit air circulation; they make the crust go soft quickly and make the bread mold quickly.

Some people approximate the effect of a waxed paper bag by keeping bread in a plain paper bag that is enclosed by a plastic bag. It's not quite as good, but it's better than either of the current options--plastic or plain paper--by themselves.

Leave it to you to ruin my quaint story about eastern France and bread :)
/

1030 realwest  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:02:20am

re: #939 calcajun
Well y'all might want to see my #806 about that. Otherwise I'd advise to not engage them.

1031 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:02:30am

jcm, maybe they should call Sound Transit Unsound Transit.

/just had to get that in

1032 MandyManners  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:02:33am

re: #1009 Ward Cleaver

Turbo Tax ate my tax return!

FCBBHO ate my freedom.

1033 Digital Display  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:02:43am

re: #997 reine.de.tout

HH - The government requires you to have car insurance for the privilege of driving your car. There is no "right" to drive on the public streets. And, you get to choose who you buy the insurance from, don't you?

To require people to buy health insurance would be like saying you must have this for the privilege of living. I thought "life" was a "right" in this country, not a privilege.


See why nobody wants me on the debate team?
Good points.. Hope you are well today..

1034 reloadingisnotahobby  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:03:08am

re: #1024 Ward Cleaver

Ward,
You no damn well there are no gun shot victims in Canada!!
They fixed that problem!!
///

1035 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:03:15am

re: #1032 MandyManners

FCBBHO ate my freedom.

I had a freedom. But he eated it.

1036 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:03:44am

re: #1034 reloadingisnotahobby

Ward,
You no damn well there are no gun shot victims in Canada!!
They fixed that problem!!
///

Hey, but the hospitals in Detroit know how to treat them.

1037 [deleted]  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:03:46am
1038 reine.de.tout  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:03:53am

re: #985 calcajun

My neighbor as a kid ask me (as her Mr. Fix-it while her hubby was at sea) to investigate a foul odor in her kitchen. A rat had crawled into her electric oven and had become a conductor-so to speak. Rotten roasted rat is a pretty foul odor.

Yes it is, as I found out when I turned on the heater in my car.
I could not imagine what it was.

1039 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:04:07am

re: #1004 Ward Cleaver

Oh, Sherry Jackson, from the Danny Thomas show. Wow. Susan Oliver was hot, too.

Yes, she was. I liked the movie, but not everyone likes the subtle but weird humor of the movie. And it seems to be unavailable except for rental.

1040 reloadingisnotahobby  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:04:33am

re: #1036 Ward Cleaver

It's about all they do!!

1041 Spenser (with an S)  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:04:52am

re: #1022 laZardo

re: #1016 jcm

When our health care is as good as Canada's were will we go to get care?

Canadians visit U.S. to get health care / Deal lets many go to Michigan hospitals

I can get Vermont but...DETROIT!?

Yes, Detroit is messed up, but they have some amazing hospitals. Nearby is one of the best in the world, U of M. It's kind of funny, Cleveland Clinic in downtown Cleveland, Johns Hopkins in downtown Baltimore.

1042 realwest  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:05:05am

re: #960 Dark_Falcon
Uh, what is a Big Board game?

1043 MandyManners  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:05:09am

re: #1026 reine.de.tout

I believe it was close to $1000.
I had an "extended warrranty" that covered it.

I thought warranties covered mechanical problems, not rodents.

1044 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:05:27am

re: #1039 Kosh's Shadow

Yes, she was. I liked the movie, but not everyone likes the subtle but weird humor of the movie. And it seems to be unavailable except for rental.

I noticed there's no DVD link on IMDb.

1045 redstateredneck  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:05:33am

re: #1002 reine.de.tout

I coulda used one of those scented pine trees at the time.

Industrial strength.

1046 BlueCanuck  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:06:03am

re: #1022 laZardo

I can get Vermont but...DETROIT!?

Detroit is right across from Windsor, so it makes sense. It's about a four hour car ride at the limit from Toronto. Faster by air ambulance. I don't know why they didn't choose Buffalo, since it's a bit closer then that.

1047 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:06:08am

re: #1013 Ward Cleaver

One of my favorite movies.

/holy sheep shit!

I heard that for Repo Man, no company would supply items "for promotional consideration" except for the Evergreen Auto Freshener company. So everything else is generic "Food" "Drink", etc, while the air fresheners are all over the movie.

1048 Mad Al-Jaffee  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:06:18am

re: #1041 Spenser (with an S)

Yes, Detroit is messed up, but they have some amazing hospitals.

I bet they have some top-notch trauma surgeons, very experienced with gunshot wounds.

1049 solomonpanting  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:06:28am

re: #1043 MandyManners

I thought warranties covered mechanical problems, not rodents.

Some warranties may cover road dents.

1050 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:06:36am

re: #1047 Kosh's Shadow

I heard that for Repo Man, no company would supply items "for promotional consideration" except for the Evergreen Auto Freshener company. So everything else is generic "Food" "Drink", etc, while the air fresheners are all over the movie.

"BEER".

1051 CommonCents  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:06:44am

re: #1018 turn

I coulld tell you my rat in the attic story but I would probably fall way behind on the thread. It ends with me up on the patio overhang practically puking and dangling a dead rat by the tail yelling at the turnwife to bring a garbagfe can. Then, woosh - splat! I ended up with the skin of it's tail in my fingers.

Well, it's getting close to lunch time here. Thanks for the appetizers.
/

1052 BlueCanuck  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:07:02am

re: #1036 Ward Cleaver

Hey, but the hospitals in Detroit know how to treat them.

Actually, our hospitals here in Toronto have gotten real good treating gun shot victims.

/yeah, we have gun control, all are gang related.

1053 ctrlL  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:07:22am

re: #847 windhorse

what Teddy Kennedy got away with in life was just wrong... a travesty of justice...

no RIP from me.

Agreed ... I am a life-long Massachusettts resident who deplores the damage the man has done to this country through his Liberal policies. He exploited the memories of his father, mother, brothers and sister to enlarge and heighten his own pedestal. He became arrogant and drunk with his own power (or was it scotch?). IMHO, he stayed too long at the dance.

Comparing the unaddressed legal and moral issues that surround this man and the entire Kennedy family with the fact that the Department of Justice is now encouraging the threat of prosecuting members of the CIA for acting to keep us safe is sickening.
/rant mode off

1054 redstateredneck  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:07:27am

re: #1018 turn

I coulld tell you my rat in the attic story but I would probably fall way behind on the thread. It ends with me up on the patio overhang practically puking and dangling a dead rat by the tail yelling at the turnwife to bring a garbagfe can. Then, woosh - splat! I ended up with the skin of it's tail in my fingers.

mrhightechredneck is in the auto parts/autobody biz so he brought home a paint respirator for the rat removal from the attic ceiling fan.

1055 badger1970  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:07:34am

I'll heed the above advice, mums the word but for a a little story this morning. On KMFA, (Music and Fine Arts, not Kiss my...) out of Austin announced the passing and saying in a dead-pan monotone, quote "..Democrats and Republicans will be mourning him." Just reading the thread quote without knowing the originator gives a complete new meaning to it. At first I thought it was a boy who became distant from his family and at age 12, became to love them. Then after the coffee kicked in, I saw it was an Emo Phillips joke. har har I saw "The Watchmen" for the first time last night, movie was a bit disturbing, in which I can't exactly put my finger on. So I went to a movie rental store to rent, "The Twelve Chairs", a movie I remember watching when I was 6, upstairs in Waupun's public library and wondering what the hell was in that movie to hold the attention of an obnoxious 6-yo. As a matter of fact, same the original "Producers" and "The Russians are Coming, the Russians are Coming", what did I see in those moves during that summer?

1056 Digital Display  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:07:38am

re: #1037 buzzsawmonkey

I didn't scroll far enough up the thread to see it. I started at the bottom and worked my way up, figuring that eventually I'd make good.


Waving at Buzzsaw while he travels up the thread and I go down it..

1057 reine.de.tout  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:07:42am

re: #1033 HoosierHoops

See why nobody wants me on the debate team?
Good points.. Hope you are well today..

{HH}
Yes, I am doing well, thank you!

Unfortunately, chores await me - I hate when chores eat into my LGF time!

Plus, daughter is home sick, and the school wants me to take her to the doctor to see if it's the h1n1 flu, then call them back. Her fever is not really high; I think she just has a cold, PLUS if it is the flu, how smart is it to take that child out and spread germs in the doctor's office?

I'm going to wait a day, see how it goes.

1058 reloadingisnotahobby  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:07:42am

re: #1036 Ward Cleaver
In nursing school my mother said she got to treat a shotgun
victim in 1941...Said it was very ugly ...no doubt!!

1059 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:07:47am

re: #963 teardrop

My first post! (brand new hatchling). This is an open thread, right? So, I have a question- Regarding the "Healthcare" bills, and especially the way the way congress wants to mandate that we purchase it ourselves, Can they do that? What will they use to justify requiring everyone to spend their own AFTER TAX money to buy it? Is that Constitutional? This seems to be a very thorny question.

re: #1025 BlueCanuck

Here's the link to the question topic with KeithG's links as well.

Teardrop ... see the link in BlueCanuck's comment.

1060 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:07:49am

re: #1042 realwest

Uh, what is a Big Board game?

It's my gaming group's monthly game of Battletech. Larger games can have between 14 to 22 people. They are important social events for me, and so I always make sure to do my best preparing items for them.

1061 laZardo  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:07:53am

re: #1046 BlueCanuck

Well, that makes sense.

On a lighter note...being a gamer makes me snicker at the initials for the Greater Toronto Area. q;

re: #1041 Spenser (with an S)

Maybe the victims (and perps?) provide valuable practice and experience for the medical teams, putting it bluntly.

1062 Occasional Reader  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:08:10am

re: #1046 BlueCanuck

It's about a four hour car ride at the limit from Toronto. Faster by air ambulance. I don't know why they didn't choose Buffalo,

Uh... like, hellloo? Cars and "air ambulances" are MUCH faster than buffalo.

1063 SixDegrees  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:08:47am

re: #1016 jcm

When our health care is as good as Canada's were will we go to get care?

Canadians visit U.S. to get health care / Deal lets many go to Michigan hospitals

What's really disturbing about this story is that Ontario is often criticized by other Canadian provinces for hogging so many national resources to itself, leaving other provinces high and dry when it comes to things like medical services. Ontario, then, is as good as it gets in Canada - yet they're shipping their patients abroad for care.

1064 reine.de.tout  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:08:57am

re: #1043 MandyManners

I thought warranties covered mechanical problems, not rodents.

I did too, Mandy, I was surprised that this was covered. But it was.

1065 turn  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:09:25am

rut ro - spinning wheels

1066 reine.de.tout  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:09:45am

re: #1065 turn

rut ro - spinning wheels

me too

1067 realwest  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:10:00am

re: #1000 Kosh's Shadow
Ah yep- kindly see my #806!

1068 Occasional Reader  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:10:21am

re: #1046 BlueCanuck

It's about a four hour car ride at the limit from Toronto. Faster by air ambulance. I don't know why they didn't choose Buffalo,

Uh... like, helllooo? Cars and "air ambulances" are MUCH faster than buffalo.

1069 midwestgak  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:10:32am

re: #1038 reine.de.tout

Yes it is, as I found out when I turned on the heater in my car.
I could not imagine what it was.

Morning {reine}. One winter I turned on my heater (1971 Ford Maverick) and not only did the passenger floor board get soaked, water vapor steamed up the entire inside of the car. No critter in this story, but it was scary. Turns out the heater coil died. lol

1070 turn  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:11:05am

re: #1066 reine.de.tout

me too

had to refresh. Morning reine

1071 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:11:38am

The Ted Kennedy death might but Boston TV stations in a quandary. If some other news happens, like some new development in the Michael Jackson death or nuclear war, should they break into their Ted Kennedy coverage to cover it?

1072 reine.de.tout  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:11:40am

re: #1069 midwestgak

Morning {reine}. One winter I turned on my heater (1971 Ford Maverick) and not only did the passenger floor board get soaked, water vapor steamed up the entire inside of the car. No critter in this story, but it was scary. Turns out the heater coil died. lol

I hate it when something goes wrong with my car. Just hate it.

1073 Occasional Reader  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:11:47am

Sorry for the double post. The first attempt hung up, crashed, I assumed was lost. In fact, this thread is becoming untenable, at least with IE7. Goddamn frustrating... so, bye for now.

1074 reine.de.tout  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:11:51am

re: #1070 turn

had to refresh. Morning reine

Mornin' Turn!

1075 DrNaughty  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:12:24am

re: #1073 Occasional Reader

Sorry for the double post. The first attempt hung up, crashed, I assumed was lost. In fact, this thread is becoming untenable, at least with IE7. Goddamn frustrating... so, bye for now.

Download Firefox

1076 redstateredneck  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:12:27am

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1077 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:12:36am

re: #1069 midwestgak

Morning {reine}. One winter I turned on my heater (1971 Ford Maverick) and not only did the passenger floor board get soaked, water vapor steamed up the entire inside of the car. No critter in this story, but it was scary. Turns out the heater coil died. lol

Yuck. My dad had a 1980s-ish vintage Toyota snub-nose minivan that we drove until the doors fell off (quite literally, but that's another story). One day, we were getting ready for a trip when Dad smelled something mighty suspicious in the van. Now, one should understand that this thing had a weird arrangement where the engine was underneath the driver's seat. So he pops the seat up, and... Lo and behold, a mouse nest, built of housing insulation, nestled deep in the engine compartment.

1078 MandyManners  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:13:12am
1079 J.S.  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:13:35am

I think President Obama gave a pretty lackluster statement on the death of Senator Kennedy...(Wolf Blitzer is now interviewing the former peanut farmer -- from his location, not in Plains, Georgia, but Ramallah. His new-found home -- yukking it up with terrorists...figures).

1080 Occasional Reader  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:13:56am

re: #1075 DrNaughty

Download Firefox

I can't at work. Firewalls.

Anyway; later.

1081 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:14:08am

re: #1075 DrNaughty

Download Firefox

Firefox has the same spinning wheel problem; I had to reload a few minutes ago.

1082 DrNaughty  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:14:11am

re: #1079 J.S.

I think President Obama gave a pretty lackluster statement on the death of Senator Kennedy...(Wolf Blitzer is now interviewing the former peanut farmer -- from his location, not in Plains, Georgia, but Ramallah. His new-found home -- yukking it up with terrorists...figures).

Most of us in Georgia disowned Carter years ago

1083 turn  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:14:11am

re: #1051 CommonCents

Well, it's getting close to lunch time here. Thanks for the appetizers.
/

It died in the soffet above the piano in my family room. I tore the piano apart thinking that horrible smell was coming from inside the piano. This went on for several days and the smell got so bad I finally realized it was coming from the attic. Man was that smell bad.

1084 eschew_obfuscation  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:14:57am

re: #1075 DrNaughty

Download Firefox

I think he usually posts from a work computer where he doesn't have administrator privileges.

1085 BlueCanuck  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:15:03am

re: #1061 laZardo

Here's my gaming hangout. :)

1086 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:15:09am

re: #1082 DrNaughty

Most of us in Georgia disowned Carter years ago

Too bad the rest of the country can't.

1087 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:15:15am

re: #1080 Occasional Reader

I can't at work. Firewalls.

Anyway; later.

You'll have to download it at home and put it on a USB key, then take it to work and install it. Maybe that will work (assuming your system isn't locked down).

1088 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:15:33am

re: #1081 Kosh's Shadow

Firefox has the same spinning wheel problem; I had to reload a few minutes ago.

Yeah, it was slow for a minute there.

1089 turn  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:15:56am

re: #1054 redstateredneck

mrhightechredneck is in the auto parts/autobody biz so he brought home a paint respirator for the rat removal from the attic ceiling fan.

I wish I would have had one of those, man I was gaggin so hard I could barely see through the tears.

1090 Ward Cleaver  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:16:02am

re: #1084 eschew_obfuscation

I think he usually posts from a work computer where he doesn't have administrator privileges.

No admin rights? Bummer.

1091 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:16:40am

re: #1080 Occasional Reader

I can't at work. Firewalls.

Anyway; later.

You're trapped between four walls?
You should get out more.

1092 victor_yugo  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:16:44am

Current headline on al-AP:

Obama mourns Kennedy, greatest senator of our time

No quote marks.

Plagiarists!

*puke*

1093 MandyManners  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:17:04am

UNCLE!

1094 Dar ul Harb  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:17:13am

re: #995 Occasional Reader

The Commerce Clause long ago became The Thing That Ate Federalism. This was done out of good intentions (civil rights), but nonetheless, the Framers would scratch their heads at our current interpretation of the Commerce Clause.

As i understand it, the commerce clause was basically there to restrain the states from imposing tariffs or other protectionist measures on each other's goods, back in the day when they considered themselves essentially little countries.

If it can be stretched so far as to compel individual Americans as to what goods and services they must buy, we'll soon all be driving GM "green" cars, I suspect.

1095 DrNaughty  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:17:21am

re: #1090 Ward Cleaver

No admin rights? Bummer.

I remember when PCs were simple in the 1980s

1096 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:18:22am

re: #1095 DrNaughty

I remember when PCs were simple in the 1980s

Yep, there wasn't much that could go wrong with that cassette tape storage device.

1097 DrNaughty  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:19:49am

re: #1096 Walter L. Newton

Yep, there wasn't much that could go wrong with that cassette tape storage device.

I went through grad school with my department's Osborne two diskette drive "portable". Both masters and PhD. Word Star and dbaseII was all I needed, also Visicalc

1098 eschew_obfuscation  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:20:06am

re: #1090 Ward Cleaver

No admin rights? Bummer.

I don't have admin privileges on my work machine either. The funny thing is that what bothers me the most about it is that I can't get to the system calendar to check dates.

1099 midwestgak  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:20:10am

re: #1095 DrNaughty

I remember when PCs were simple in the 1980s

You're kidding right? The user would have to type a string command perfectly to copy a file, for example.

1100 turn  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:20:23am

bbl, what OR said

1101 Danny  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:20:38am

WTH, we're still on last night's open thread?? Charles musta stayed up all night playing with Logic Studio or something.

1102 itellu3times  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:20:47am

re: #1073 Occasional Reader

Sorry for the double post. The first attempt hung up, crashed, I assumed was lost. In fact, this thread is becoming untenable, at least with IE7. Goddamn frustrating... so, bye for now.

Yes, IE7 choked on threads over about 700 messages, and that was before Charles put in some new features last week. Now, who knows.

IE6 would work on longer threads, but slowly, until those changes, and after would not work at all on the LGF front page.

So, I finally downloaded Firefox, and its a completely different animal. LGF hasn't worked this well for me since - well, just about forever, since it went Ajax.

I'm told Chrome is also vastly superior to Internet Exploder, though optimized a bit differently. And I have zero hands-on experience with Exploder 8, but have not heard that it seriously competes with Firefox and Chrome.

I've seen Firefox get funky a couple of times this morning (on other sites), it's not flawless - and the support forum is a bit scary. But for LGF, if you haven't tried it - try it!

Or maybe Charles can customize a version, support his own browser - FireLizard!

1103 Ben Hur  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:20:52am

Via Honest Reporting:

Video aired on Israeli Channel 2 News.

Hamas executing captured Jund Ansar Allah fighters in a mosque courtyard.

[Link: www.mako.co.il...]

1104 DrNaughty  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:20:53am

re: #1099 midwestgak

You're kidding right? The user would have to type a string command perfectly to copy a file, for example.

Yup.. just like the UNIX systems I use currently...

1105 itellu3times  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:21:34am

re: #1102 itellu3times

(of course OR won't even see this message oh well)

1106 DrNaughty  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:21:58am

re: #1102 itellu3times

Yes, IE7 choked on threads over about 700 messages, and that was before Charles put in some new features last week. Now, who knows.

IE6 would work on longer threads, but slowly, until those changes, and after would not work at all on the LGF front page.

So, I finally downloaded Firefox, and its a completely different animal. LGF hasn't worked this well for me since - well, just about forever, since it went Ajax.

I'm told Chrome is also vastly superior to Internet Exploder, though optimized a bit differently. And I have zero hands-on experience with Exploder 8, but have not heard that it seriously competes with Firefox and Chrome.

I've seen Firefox get funky a couple of times this morning (on other sites), it's not flawless - and the support forum is a bit scary. But for LGF, if you haven't tried it - try it!

Or maybe Charles can customize a version, support his own browser - FireLizard!

I trust Google even less than I trust Microsoft...

1107 [deleted]  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:22:09am
1108 jcm  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:22:09am

re: #1096 Walter L. Newton

Yep, there wasn't much that could go wrong with that cassette tape storage device.

No, not much!
;-)

1109 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:22:12am

re: #1096 Walter L. Newton

Yep, there wasn't much that could go wrong with that cassette tape storage device.

Not on the Commodore Pet, where the cassette recorder (a $20 recorder mechanism with a custom circuit board) would deteriorate over about a year, to where what it wrote wasn't readable. Then they wanted $90 for a new cassette system (which probably cost them $10).
After it wiped out everything I wrote for it, I got pretty upset with the company.

1110 calcajun  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:22:38am

re: #1064 reine.de.tout

Could have been worse. A neighbor here in San Diego had a rat get under the hood and gnaw on the car's belts and hoses. He found out how bad when he was on the road. Not fun.

1111 victor_yugo  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:22:46am

re: #1104 DrNaughty

Yup.. just like the UNIX systems I use currently...

Right. "cp existingfile newfile" is just so cryptic.

1112 itellu3times  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:23:12am

re: #1099 midwestgak

You're kidding right? The user would have to type a string command perfectly to copy a file, for example.

the horror ...

1113 DrNaughty  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:23:12am

re: #1111 victor_yugo

Right. "cp existingfile newfile" is just so cryptic.

awk is much more enjoyable :)

1114 calcajun  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:23:19am

re: #1107 buzzsawmonkey

Teste-ing the waters with a pun thread?

1115 jcm  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:23:21am

re: #1104 DrNaughty

Yup.. just like the UNIX systems I use currently...

Lots of UNIX and DOS based testers where I work. I often remote into them.

Then I just have to keep my friggin' / and straight!

1116 laZardo  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:24:07am

re: #1103 Ben Hur

Via Honest Reporting:

Video aired on Israeli Channel 2 News.

Hamas executing captured Jund Ansar Allah fighters in a mosque courtyard.

[Link: www.mako.co.il...]

There ain't room in this hellhole for two sets of crazies.

1117 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:24:24am

re: #1111 victor_yugo

Right. "cp existingfile newfile" is just so cryptic.

Or if you want to type a file "dog" you would
cat dog

But grep works much better at finding files than Microsoft's search utilities. Sometimes I use cygwin just for that. (Microsoft hides files they don't want you to find)

1118 victor_yugo  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:24:30am

re: #1113 DrNaughty

awk is much more enjoyable :)

Or "dd".

Which, in some circumstances, can be a real time-saver.

1119 [deleted]  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:24:36am
1120 jcm  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:24:37am

re: #1112 itellu3times

the horror ...

Its biased against those of us with fat finger disease!

1121 Sheila Broflovski  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:25:14am

re: #1103 Ben Hur

Via Honest Reporting:

Video aired on Israeli Channel 2 News.

Hamas executing captured Jund Ansar Allah fighters in a mosque courtyard.

[Link: www.mako.co.il...]

Where's Human Rights Watch? Nowhere to be seen.

1122 realwest  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:25:18am

re: #1102 itellu3times
Well I'm using IE 7 cause IE8 was just a funky user interface; Firefox has been oversold - I don't have any problems with other sites, but I've noticed that when I go to post a comment, that will hang if other folks are also trying to post a comment as well.
Methinks I'll try Chrome cause I have heard good things about it, but I still think there's something too technolgically advanced about LGF for most browsers used in PC's, anyway.

1123 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:25:26am

re: #1113 DrNaughty

awk is much more enjoyable :)

Aho, you're right.
(Couldn't get Weinberger and Kernighan into the pun.)

1124 calcajun  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:25:37am

re: #1119 buzzsawmonkey

No, just glans-ing around.

Well, there's a vas defferens between those two concepts. Be careful.

1125 victor_yugo  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:25:40am

re: #1120 jcm

Its biased against those of us with fat finger disease!

Or under-endowed keyboards.

1126 jcm  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:25:41am

re: #1119 buzzsawmonkey

No, just glans-ing around.

We better head off this pun thread.

1127 itellu3times  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:25:46am

re: #1106 DrNaughty

I trust Google even less than I trust Microsoft...

for me, too close to call!

but Firefox is open source mozilla, seems very well behaved, installs in mere seconds.

I'm pretty curmudgeonly about the whole open source thing, but so far, very happy with firefox.

1128 Ben Hur  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:25:56am
Just for the record, the "feud" did not break out over "whether or not the anti-Muslims should join forces with European neo-fascists." It broke out over a couple of weblinks. No one was or is saying that anti-jihadists (which is not the same thing as "anti-Muslims") should join forces with European neo-fascists. The question was whether one could find wanting Johnson's "proof" that certain groups were actually neo-fascist without in turn being defamed as a neo-fascist and racist by Johnson. The answer turned out to be no. But the issue here was never whether anyone should ally with genuine European neo-fascists. Of course no one should.

At Jihad Watch.

Whatevah.

BBL

1129 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:26:32am

re: #1118 victor_yugo

Or "dd".

Which, in some circumstances, can be a real time-saver.

I guess you don't mean the OS/360 JCL DD statement, which made awk look clear.
For those who remember the days of cards.

1130 reine.de.tout  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:26:39am

re: #1126 jcm

We better head off this pun thread.

It's amazing how quickly and spontaneously these pun threads start.

1131 Kenneth  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:26:56am

re: #1103 Ben Hur

my, what quaint cultural practices they have!

1132 victor_yugo  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:27:01am

re: #1123 Kosh's Shadow

Aho, you're right.
(Couldn't get Weinberger and Kernighan into the pun.)

Aho, there you go Kernighan about your puns.

Have a port weinberger and be quiet.

1133 Buck  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:27:09am

re: #1102 itellu3times

I'm told Chrome is also vastly superior to Internet Exploder, though optimized a bit differently.

I like chrome... mostly because I use gmail and some other google web based apps.

1134 calcajun  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:27:28am

re: #1130 reine.de.tout

It's amazing how quickly and spontaneously these pun threads start.

Usually, it's a nocturnal event.

1135 DrNaughty  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:28:21am

re: #1127 itellu3times

for me, too close to call!

but Firefox is open source mozilla, seems very well behaved, installs in mere seconds.

I'm pretty curmudgeonly about the whole open source thing, but so far, very happy with firefox.

The last company I worked for (mostly engineers) used Thunderbird for email Now that I work for mega company, that has Microsoft Office, I've gotten used to Outlook and as long as I don't have to pay for it, it seems to do a decent job for email and meeting/calendar management

1136 BlueCanuck  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:28:23am

re: #1126 jcm

We better head off this pun thread.

Or just give it the shaft?

1137 redstateredneck  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:29:03am

re: #1130 reine.de.tout

It's amazing how quickly and spontaneously these pun threads start.

Sometimes prematurely.

1138 realwest  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:29:07am

Well y'all it's been grand, but I gotta go do some chores now.
I hope you all have a great day and that I get to see you all down the road.

1139 DrNaughty  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:29:11am

re: #1129 Kosh's Shadow

I guess you don't mean the OS/360 JCL DD statement, which made awk look clear.
For those who remember the days of cards.

or paper tape TTY terminals.. :)

1140 laZardo  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:29:20am

re: #1138 realwest

Cheers, man.

1141 laZardo  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:29:36am

re: #1136 BlueCanuck

re: #1137 redstateredneck

And on that note, Happy Hump Day!

1142 BlueCanuck  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:30:00am

re: #1137 redstateredneck

Sometimes prematurely.

If they last longer then four hours we may be in trouble.

1143 itellu3times  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:30:23am

re: #1139 DrNaughty

I guess you don't mean the OS/360 JCL DD statement, which made awk look clear.
For those who remember the days of cards.

or paper tape TTY terminals.. :)

been there, done that, got the chad.

1144 yma o hyd  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:30:32am

Hiya, Lizard Nation!

I hope all is well in Lizardia!

Here we have rain - gales - rain, and my PC seems to be wobbly ...

1145 itellu3times  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:30:51am

re: #1142 BlueCanuck

If they last longer then four hours we may be in trouble.

consult a philologist.

1146 CommonCents  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:30:52am

re: #1103 Ben Hur

Via Honest Reporting:

Video aired on Israeli Channel 2 News.

Hamas executing captured Jund Ansar Allah fighters in a mosque courtyard.

[Link: www.mako.co.il...]

What would Scotland do!?

1147 redstateredneck  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:30:54am

re: #1141 laZardo

re: #1137 redstateredneck

And on that note, Happy Hump Day!

Is your new avatar one of your own drawings?

1148 calcajun  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:30:57am

re: #1136 BlueCanuck

Or just give it the shaft?

We better change the thrust of this thread. Once these pun threads get their own rhythm going...well, you know.

1149 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:31:04am

re: #1135 DrNaughty

The last company I worked for (mostly engineers) used Thunderbird for email Now that I work for mega company, that has Microsoft Office, I've gotten used to Outlook and as long as I don't have to pay for it, it seems to do a decent job for email and meeting/calendar management

Thunderbird is the only supported email client I've found that still allows you to view the source of a message without opening it first.
Of course, if you are suspicious of the email, opening it isn't a good idea; it might exploit a security hole in the email client, so it negates the value of looking at the source of a message - figuring out if it is legit without running the risk of it breaking in to your system.
So I use Thunderbird on my personal systems. It has the added advantage of running on Windows, Mac, and Linux, so I can use the same email program.

1150 Buck  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:31:16am

re: #1103 Ben Hur

Via Honest Reporting:

Video aired on Israeli Channel 2 News.

Hamas executing captured Jund Ansar Allah fighters in a mosque courtyard.

[Link: www.mako.co.il...]

Wow... isn't that like illegal? I am sure Human Rights groups will start sending human shields to Gaza to stop this from happening.

///

1151 DrNaughty  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:31:31am

re: #1129 Kosh's Shadow

I guess you don't mean the OS/360 JCL DD statement, which made awk look clear.
For those who remember the days of cards.

I have a FORTRAN compiler on this laptop that I write and run programs in a cmd window. Notepad works just fine to create 80 col card images one line at a time

1152 calcajun  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:31:37am

The salt mines beckon.

Later

1153 reine.de.tout  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:32:13am

re: #1142 BlueCanuck

If they last longer then four hours we may be in trouble.

You'll have to see a doctor.

1154 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:32:21am

re: #1139 DrNaughty

or paper tape TTY terminals.. :)

I remember those, (ASR-33's. 10 characters per second), and cards. I got good at unjamming the 029 keypunch, changing ribbons, emptying the chad box, etc.
And unjamming the card readers.

1155 Mad Al-Jaffee  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:32:45am

re: #1126 jcm

We better head off this pun thread.

Be fore that, we should skin it.

1156 wahabicorridor  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:33:04am

re: #1128 Ben Hur

At Jihad Watch.

Whatevah.

BBL

Yeah, well a lot of us were here for the whole thing. Jihad Watch is lying.

Again.

1157 itellu3times  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:33:09am

re: #1149 Kosh's Shadow

Thunderbird is the only supported email client I've found that still allows you to view the source of a message without opening it first.

Can do so with Outlook and Outlook Express if you turn off the automagic preview, then right-click the message and say view source. Which is just what I do. Could be a lot better, tho.

1158 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:33:56am

re: #1151 DrNaughty

I have a FORTRAN compiler on this laptop that I write and run programs in a cmd window. Notepad works just fine to create 80 col card images one line at a time

Do you do that for fun, or are you a masochist? :)

1159 Buck  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:34:00am

re: #1151 DrNaughty

I have a FORTRAN compiler on this laptop that I write and run programs in a cmd window. Notepad works just fine to create 80 col card images one line at a time

Well, I might be a bit older than you, I remember writing software on cards, and later a small magnet on a huge disk... touch the disk for a 1, blank for 0...

/just kidding... it actually is funny in a room full of geeks but it might need the hand movements.

1160 laZardo  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:34:03am

re: #1147 redstateredneck

Unfortunately not.

This one is, though.

1161 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:34:14am

re: #1151 DrNaughty

I have a FORTRAN compiler on this laptop that I write and run programs in a cmd window. Notepad works just fine to create 80 col card images one line at a time

Yes. I remember, though, using an editor on an IBM 3270 terminal (actually a clone) that had an interesting feature. Lines were fixed 80 columns, and if you wanted to insert text in an existing line, you had to press a function key to delete the blanks at the end of the line first.
And people think Windows is bad.

1162 DrNaughty  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:34:19am

re: #1154 Kosh's Shadow

I remember those, (ASR-33's. 10 characters per second), and cards. I got good at unjamming the 029 keypunch, changing ribbons, emptying the chad box, etc.
And unjamming the card readers.

hehe

I remember programming the 029 keypunch with an 80 col card that you would wrap around the cylinder to speed up the card punching of data cards

that went under the data DD * card :)

1163 victor_yugo  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:34:28am

re: #1154 Kosh's Shadow

I remember those, (ASR-33's. 10 characters per second), and cards. I got good at unjamming the 029 keypunch, changing ribbons, emptying the chad box, etc.
And unjamming the card readers.

The original "bit bucket."

1164 yma o hyd  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:34:35am

re: #1156 wahabicorridor

Yeah, well a lot of us were here for the whole thing. Jihad Watch is lying.

Again.

Not even going there to check it out, I'm not ...

Hiya, {wahabicorridor}!

1165 DrNaughty  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:35:17am

re: #1161 Kosh's Shadow

Yes. I remember, though, using an editor on an IBM 3270 terminal (actually a clone) that had an interesting feature. Lines were fixed 80 columns, and if you wanted to insert text in an existing line, you had to press a function key to delete the blanks at the end of the line first.
And people think Windows is bad.

ISPF for PC most likey. Wish I could find a copy of it.

1166 eschew_obfuscation  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:35:53am

re: #1149 Kosh's Shadow

Thunderbird is the only supported email client I've found that still allows you to view the source of a message without opening it first.
Of course, if you are suspicious of the email, opening it isn't a good idea; it might exploit a security hole in the email client, so it negates the value of looking at the source of a message - figuring out if it is legit without running the risk of it breaking in to your system.
So I use Thunderbird on my personal systems. It has the added advantage of running on Windows, Mac, and Linux, so I can use the same email program.

I've never understood this 'viewing email without opening it' thing.

Doesn't the client have to open it to preview it? Isn't 'opening' a file just creating a buffer for it and reading data from it into the buffer?

1167 victor_yugo  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:36:24am

//GO.SYSIN DD *, DOODAH, DOODAH

1168 DrNaughty  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:37:01am

re: #1167 victor_yugo

//GO.SYSIN DD *, DOODAH, DOODAH

Flashback to 1985

1169 itellu3times  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:37:28am

re: #1166 eschew_obfuscation

I've never understood this 'viewing email without opening it' thing.

Doesn't the client have to open it to preview it? Isn't 'opening' a file just creating a buffer for it and reading data from it into the buffer?

Turn off the preview.

Open it in notepad mode, don't render the html, don't open links that go to nasty viruses.

1170 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:37:30am

re: #1157 itellu3times

Can do so with Outlook and Outlook Express if you turn off the automagic preview, then right-click the message and say view source. Which is just what I do. Could be a lot better, tho.

I believe Outlook requires you to have opened the message first. Note they have hidden view source; you have to know the keyboard shortcut, as it is no longer in a menu.
Outlook Express still lets you view source, but you have to right click, select properties, pick the right tab, and click View Source. And Outlook Express is no longer supported. Microsoft Mail is the free email client, and it doesn't let you view source without opening the message first.

1171 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:37:37am

re: #1165 DrNaughty

ISPF for PC most likey. Wish I could find a copy of it.

I use to have it for the PC, used it mostly for Clipper (dbase) applications that I was coding. It was a port down from main frame. I considered it the best programming editor for a PC available at the time.

1172 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:37:49am

re: #1163 victor_yugo

The original "bit bucket."

Some might say your analogy donut holes up.

1173 itellu3times  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:38:13am

re: #1168 DrNaughty

Flashback to 1985

1975
1965?

1174 victor_yugo  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:38:17am

re: #1168 DrNaughty

In 1985, I was pondering the subtleties of ED B0 on the Zilog Z-80.

(That's the LDIR instruction, roughly equivalent to memcpy() in C.)

1175 yma o hyd  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:38:20am

Lizards who share their habitat with one or more house wolves might be interested in this:

Richard Dawkins: the truth dogs reveal about evolution:

From that link:
'The way in which wolves adapted to the environment to turn into dogs reveals another insight into evolution'

There's also a nice accompanying piccie!

1176 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:38:22am

re: #1162 DrNaughty

hehe

I remember programming the 029 keypunch with an 80 col card that you would wrap around the cylinder to speed up the card punching of data cards

that went under the data DD * card :)

I did a little of that, when I wrote assembler programs for the 1130.

1177 redstateredneck  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:38:23am

re: #1160 laZardo

Unfortunately not.

This one is, though.

Kewl!

1178 laZardo  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:38:41am

re: #1168 DrNaughty

Flashback to 1985

1179 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:39:01am

re: #1165 DrNaughty

ISPF for PC most likey. Wish I could find a copy of it.

This was before the PC on a real terminal. We shared the one in the office between 2 people.

1180 eschew_obfuscation  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:40:04am

re: #1169 itellu3times

Turn off the preview.

Open it in notepad mode, don't render the html, don't open links that go to nasty viruses.

Ahhh... HTML email... of course. Thanks.

1181 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:40:23am

re: #1165 DrNaughty

ISPF for PC most likey. Wish I could find a copy of it.

Looky, still available

SPFPC

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

Wow, I almost had an orgasm when I saw that panel.

1182 96RoadKing  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:40:32am

re: #1161 Kosh's Shadow

Yes. I remember, though, using an editor on an IBM 3270 terminal (actually a clone) that had an interesting feature. Lines were fixed 80 columns, and if you wanted to insert text in an existing line, you had to press a function key to delete the blanks at the end of the line first.
And people think Windows is bad.

Anybody remember having to pull cords and plugging them in at different locations? Didn't do it myself, but worked with the guys that told me of 'the old days'.

1183 itellu3times  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:40:47am

re: #1170 Kosh's Shadow

I believe Outlook requires you to have opened the message first. Note they have hidden view source; you have to know the keyboard shortcut, as it is no longer in a menu.
Outlook Express still lets you view source, but you have to right click, select properties, pick the right tab, and click View Source. And Outlook Express is no longer supported. Microsoft Mail is the free email client, and it doesn't let you view source without opening the message first.

Really? That's a deal-killer for me.

Still using Outlook Express at home.

Was using Outlook at the office (finished gig now, don't have it here), thought it could still do the trick.

I should be buying a new PC to run Windows 7 in the next month or three, time to upgrade all this Office 2000 stuff to whatever. Ugh.

1184 victor_yugo  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:40:49am

re: #1179 Kosh's Shadow

This was before the PC on a real terminal. We shared the one in the office between 2 people.

When my uncle did accounting for a Big Multinational, he had three terminals in his cubicle: one logged in local, one logged in on the other coast, and one logged in overseas.

1185 DrNaughty  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:41:55am

re: #1173 itellu3times

1975
1965?

My exposure to the world of JCL, MVS, and Sysem370 systems pretty much ended in 1985 when I left grad school. On my wall in a frame is the first //JOB card I keypunched in 1978 along with the green flowcharting template I bought for the first WATFIV (FORTRAN) programming class I took

I also remember this hot tall blonde in my class that I dated and introduced me to the term "Maneater"...

1186 acwgusa  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:42:13am

re: #1115 jcm

Lots of UNIX and DOS based testers where I work. I often remote into them.

Then I just have to keep my friggin' / and straight!

Whoops, did I type RM * into the wrong window again?

1187 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:42:41am

re: #1166 eschew_obfuscation

I've never understood this 'viewing email without opening it' thing.

Doesn't the client have to open it to preview it? Isn't 'opening' a file just creating a buffer for it and reading data from it into the buffer?

Opening an email with rich text (html) requires parsing the html, and that includes getting links (most clients block this but they aren't 100% successful), decoding other parts of the message, etc. A plain text email is no problem, but is safe except for user error (such as contacting the person in Nigeria who sent you the email)

Looking at the source shows you the html and the raw data. If I can't read it (uuencoded text), it is spam. If it consists of all links to some random web site, with maybe some random text, it is spam.
If it has an actual message, I can read it.
That's how I found a virus postcard.exe. I viewed the source, saw it contained an executable, and deleted it without opening. Actually, I sent it to my antivirus vendor first because it missed it.

1188 laZardo  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:42:48am

re: #1185 DrNaughty

I also remember this hot tall blonde in my class that I dated and introduced me to the term "Maneater"...

Whoa, here she comes...

1189 kansas  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:43:01am

Got this today:
Dear Michael,

With the passing of Senator Ted Kennedy, a family lost its patriarch, the U.S. Senate lost its most gifted legislator, and America lost an unparalleled leader.

Senator Ted Kennedy was elected in Massachusetts, but to millions of Americans he was our Senator. A tenacious fighter for working men and women who share the belief that America is the greatest country in the world. His passion and purpose were dedicated to righting wrongs and ensuring that our better days are ahead.

Senator Kennedy said that 'health care is the fight of his life.' Today, we pick up the torch and recommit ourselves to health insurance reform.

Our thoughts and prayers are with Senator Kennedy's wife, children - including our friend and colleague Patrick, his family, his friends, and his constituents.

1190 itellu3times  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:43:08am

re: #1182 96RoadKing

Anybody remember having to pull cords and plugging them in at different locations? Didn't do it myself, but worked with the guys that told me of 'the old days'.

They still had the old unit record equipment in the rooms where I first learned programming, but they'd pretty much stopped teaching it anymore, so no, I never actually had to do any, that's pretty much exactly when and where I came in.

1191 DrNaughty  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:43:09am

re: #1181 Walter L. Newton

Looky, still available

SPFPC

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

Wow, I almost had an orgasm when I saw that panel.

yup that's the one

1192 victor_yugo  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:43:27am

re: #1185 DrNaughty

I also remember this hot tall blonde in my class that I dated and introduced me to the term "Maneater"...

She bought you a Hall & Oates album?

1193 laZardo  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:43:51am

re: #1189 kansas

Got this today:
Dear Michael,

With the passing of Senator Ted Kennedy, a family lost its patriarch, the U.S. Senate lost its most gifted legislator, and America lost an unparalleled leader.

Senator Ted Kennedy was elected in Massachusetts, but to millions of Americans he was our Senator. A tenacious fighter for working men and women who share the belief that America is the greatest country in the world. His passion and purpose were dedicated to righting wrongs and ensuring that our better days are ahead.

Senator Kennedy said that 'health care is the fight of his life.' Today, we pick up the torch and recommit ourselves to health insurance reform.

Our thoughts and prayers are with Senator Kennedy's wife, children - including our friend and colleague Patrick, his family, his friends, and his constituents.

IT BEGINS.

1194 victor_yugo  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:44:47am

re: #1193 laZardo

IT BEGINS.

He had no qualms about politicizing others' grief. You expected different?

1195 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:44:58am

re: #1189 kansas

That was fast.

1196 96RoadKing  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:45:15am

re: #1193 laZardo

IT BEGINS.


Why am I getting premonitions of Wellstone Funeral flashbacks?

1197 DrNaughty  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:45:50am

re: #1192 victor_yugo

She bought you a Hall & Oates album?

lol.. Last I heard she went home to NJ and married the king of cable TV.. probably has the Porche 911 she kept telling me she wanted...

1198 AuntAcid  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:46:06am

re: #412 Soona'

There's one thing about Cindy that I respect. She's consistant.

like herpes...

1199 victor_yugo  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:46:08am

The Yahoo news feeder is having a tough time staying current. Twice this morning I've seen headline sets from last week.

1200 [deleted]  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:46:09am
1201 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:46:33am

re: #1191 DrNaughty

yup that's the one

Like I said above, I used the PC version back in the 80's (pricey I remember) to write Dbase, Clipper and Foxpro code. You could also tell SPFPC the compiler you were using, so it would call your compiler just like the main frame version.

I think the first main frame version I used was on a hp2000.

1202 laZardo  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:46:52am

re: #1200 buzzsawmonkey

re: #1192 victor_yugo

See #1188.

1203 jcm  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:47:17am

re: #1189 kansas

Byrd: Rename health care bill for Kennedy

In his honor and as a tribute to his commitment to his ideals, let us stop the shouting and name calling and have a civilized debate on health care reform which I hope, when legislation has been signed into law, will bear his name for his commitment to insuring the health of every American.
1204 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:47:48am

re: #1182 96RoadKing

Anybody remember having to pull cords and plugging them in at different locations? Didn't do it myself, but worked with the guys that told me of 'the old days'.

I never had to do that, but I saw such patch panels, and have old manuals that talk about them to some extent. (I got manuals for the IBM 704, 705, 7040, 7090 machines when they were being discarded. The 704 and 705 are tube machines; the 7040 and 7090 are early discrete transistor machines)
And I had a summer job at a company that used one of the old (even then) IBM tabulating machines, that was programmed by plugboard. The person who ran it said it took 7 runs with different plugboards to do payroll.

1205 kansas  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:48:27am

re: #1195 thedopefishlives

That was fast.

I thought so, and inappropriate. By the way, have I outed myself as a Democrat who is far right?

1206 Kenneth  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:49:22am

Pakistani Imam shows off a holy relic: Muhammad's holy snot.

Watch and be amazed!

1207 [deleted]  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:49:28am
1208 Kenneth  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:49:51am

re: #1192 victor_yugo

She bought you a Hall & Oates album?

She must have thought he was gay, I guess.

1209 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:50:18am

re: #1185 DrNaughty

My exposure to the world of JCL, MVS, and Sysem370 systems pretty much ended in 1985 when I left grad school. On my wall in a frame is the first //JOB card I keypunched in 1978 along with the green flowcharting template I bought for the first WATFIV (FORTRAN) programming class I took

I also remember this hot tall blonde in my class that I dated and introduced me to the term "Maneater"...

When I was in college, there was a female student operator, Karen.
A common thing for guys to do was to request a tape (DECtape) to be put on a drive. This was done with the Mount command. (TOPS-10)
Typically, if she were there, they would assign the tape drive the logical name Karen, so they could
mount karen

I think some people who tried it found themselves logged out.

Ah yes, (to use a professor's expression) the days of wooden computers and iron programmers.

1210 victor_yugo  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:50:27am

re: #1203 jcm

Byrd: Rename health care bill for Kennedy

Sure, and the next health funds allocation can be called "Byrd's Sheets For Hospitals, Not Heads Bill."

Will that man ever crawl back under his rock?

1211 Desert Dog  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:51:15am

re: #1203 jcm

Byrd: Rename health care bill for Kennedy

Bush gets the Sewage Treatment Plant, Kennedy gets National Healthcare. We live in an odd world.

1212 [deleted]  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:51:32am
1213 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:51:33am
1214 acwgusa  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:51:38am

re: #1203 jcm

Byrd: Rename health care bill for Kennedy

The Bridge over Troubled Health Care Waters Kennedy Act of 2009.

1215 eschew_obfuscation  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:52:17am

re: #1213 pre-Boomer Marine brat

*barf*

*peristaltic chain reaction*

1216 96RoadKing  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:52:25am

re: #1204 Kosh's Shadow

I never had to do that, but I saw such patch panels, and have old manuals that talk about them to some extent. (I got manuals for the IBM 704, 705, 7040, 7090 machines when they were being discarded. The 704 and 705 are tube machines; the 7040 and 7090 are early discrete transistor machines)
And I had a summer job at a company that used one of the old (even then) IBM tabulating machines, that was programmed by plugboard. The person who ran it said it took 7 runs with different plugboards to do payroll.

The first ones I worked with used tubes & transistors, with disposable data entry tapes. There was one metalic ribbon used to reboot the beasts when they overheated and shut down (far to frequent an event back then). We ran an airconditioning blower directly on the damn things (temperature coming out of the AC was at 50 degrees - temperature coming out of the computer's exhaust was 105 degress).

1217 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:52:42am

re: #1214 acwgusa

The Bridge over Troubled Health Care Waters Kennedy Act of 2009.

Will the bill get renamed if it gets sunk?

1218 acwgusa  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:53:30am

re: #1217 Kosh's Shadow

Will the bill get renamed if it gets sunk?

Then it would be:

The Hope Floats, Buicks Don't Health Care Act of 2009.

/winces.

1219 AuntAcid  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:53:56am

re: #1203 jcm

Byrd: Rename health care bill for Kennedy

gov't health care would have pulled the plug 15 months ago, given him pain pills and sent him home.

1220 victor_yugo  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:54:06am

re: #1216 96RoadKing

During the heyday of the KL-10, CompuServe (IIRC) had one. They had no heating bill in the winter, but a hellacious cooling bill in the summer.

1221 eschew_obfuscation  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:54:07am

re: #1216 96RoadKing

The first ones I worked with used tubes & transistors, with disposable data entry tapes. There was one metalic ribbon used to reboot the beasts when they overheated and shut down (far to frequent an event back then). We ran an airconditioning blower directly on the damn things (temperature coming out of the AC was at 50 degrees - temperature coming out of the computer's exhaust was 105 degress).

The first mainframe I worked on just had a bunch of beads on some wires in a wooden frame. ... and I walked up hill, in the snow, both ways, to the computer center.

1222 DrNaughty  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:54:31am

re: #1216 96RoadKing

The first ones I worked with used tubes & transistors, with disposable data entry tapes. There was one metalic ribbon used to reboot the beasts when they overheated and shut down (far to frequent an event back then). We ran an airconditioning blower directly on the damn things (temperature coming out of the AC was at 50 degrees - temperature coming out of the computer's exhaust was 105 degress).

The good old days when our system used to be down for a few days at a time and we had to record all of our transactions "post post" for sevral days than when the system came up a team of us would be in the computer room to catch the system up before the terminals in the offices were brought back up...

Those were the days my friend.. we thought they'd never end...

1223 Kenneth  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:54:58am

Medical advice on Libyan bomber 'in doubt'

Guess what? The doctor who said Megrahi "has only weeks to live" wasn't an oncologist, and may have been working for the Libyan gov't.

Why am I not surprised?

1224 redstateredneck  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:55:22am

re: #1189 kansas

Got this today:
Dear Michael,

With the passing of Senator Ted Kennedy, a family lost its patriarch, the U.S. Senate lost its most gifted legislator, and America lost an unparalleled leader.

Senator Ted Kennedy was elected in Massachusetts, but to millions of Americans he was our Senator. A tenacious fighter for working men and women who share the belief that America is the greatest country in the world. His passion and purpose were dedicated to righting wrongs and ensuring that our better days are ahead.

Senator Kennedy said that 'health care is the fight of his life.' Today, we pick up the torch and recommit ourselves to health insurance reform.

Our thoughts and prayers are with Senator Kennedy's wife, children - including our friend and colleague Patrick, his family, his friends, and his constituents.

They had that one all ready to go. Just waiting on him to die to hit the send button.
Disgusting.

1225 [deleted]  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:56:26am
1226 DrNaughty  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:56:31am

re: #1223 Kenneth

Medical advice on Libyan bomber 'in doubt'

Guess what? The doctor who said Megrahi "has only weeks to live" wasn't an oncologist, and may have been working for the Libyan gov't.

Why am I not surprised?

He'll be dying of cancer 10 years from now

1227 acwgusa  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:58:06am

re: #1226 DrNaughty

He'll be dying of cancer 10 years from now

He should be dying of lead poisoning, the murdering bastard.

1228 96RoadKing  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:58:38am

re: #1221 eschew_obfuscation

The first mainframe I worked on just had a bunch of beads on some wires in a wooden frame. ... and I walked up hill, in the snow, both ways, to the computer center.

You lucky bastard! We used to dream of working on a wooden frame in a computer center!

1229 LGoPs  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 8:59:27am

re: #1205 kansas

I thought so, and inappropriate. By the way, have I outed myself as a Democrat who is far right?

No problem with that in my book Kansas. It's what's in your heart and your head that counts, not the label. And I like the way you think.

1230 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 9:01:54am

bbl

1231 Wendya  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 9:08:58am

re: #1223 Kenneth

Medical advice on Libyan bomber 'in doubt'

Guess what? The doctor who said Megrahi "has only weeks to live" wasn't an oncologist, and may have been working for the Libyan gov't.

Why am I not surprised?

Well, isn't that special.

3 months under the NHS, which has the lowest survival rates for prostate cancer of any developed nation, could well translate into much more time with better medical care. I imagine Gaddafi was flying in specialists before the ink dried on the release.

1232 Kenneth  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 9:10:55am

Krauthammer questions the timing:

Well, it is a hell of a coincidence, isn't it? The administration is in a deep health-care debate, a national debate, and every hour that passes, support for [Obama's] plans are diminishing and his own popularity is tanking... All of a sudden, this issue explodes on a Monday.

Friday, the administration — at 5 o’clock, after hours — releases a $2 trillion error in estimates of deficits, and on a bright Monday, you get this re-litigation of the Bush administration all of a sudden exploding upon us.

Look, I'm not a conspiracy theorist, but I'm not a child. It's not a coincidence.

And secondly, you get the president pretending he is against all this and that it is Holder, the attorney general, whose initiative all of this is about, as if Holder isn't an employee and under the direction of the administration.

So, the president is the good cop who is magnanimous, who really wants to look ahead as the messianic visionary he is — and Holder is the bad guy. Obama knows exactly what is happening and this serves his purposes wonderfully.

1233 razorbacker  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 9:20:43am

Neighbor girl came up last weekend and wanted to know if I could fix her daddy's old bolt-action .22 rifle. Shells wouldn't reliably cycle.

I said 'Yeah, there ain't much there to go wrong; I can prolly fix that for 'ya.'

Sure enough, it looked to have been uncleaned since several years before her daddy passed (sad face, look down in remembrance for a second) so I cleaned it and adjusted a spring on it and it worked as designed.

Girl was glad, and offered payment, but I know that times is hard on her place lately, so I said 'Nah, I cain't take money for some little piddling thing like that. We'll settle up some other time.'

Went out this morning to fill up the hummingbird feeders and tripped over a sack of Cherokee Purple heritage tomatoes.

I came out way ahead on that deal.

1234 Buck  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 9:30:16am

re: #1232 Kenneth

Wag the dog.

1235 Kosh's Shadow  Wed, Aug 26, 2009 9:33:29am

re: #1234 Buck

Wag the dog.

Keep Monica out of this.


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