What Right Wing Racism?

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After bloggers began pointing them out, Minnesota Republican State Senate candidate Mike Parry deleted more than 40 racist and anti-gay comments from his Twitter feed: Senate candidate scrubs racist comments from Twitter.

Among the tweets erased by Parry was a May 27 comment about President Obama:

“read the exclusive on Mr O in Newsweek. He is a Power Hungry Arrogant Black Man.”

Another tweet read, “What’s with the Dems and Pedophiles?”

And another erroneously interpreted voting laws: “Only those serving overseas can vote absentee!”

At the Republican endorsement convention in Faribault, Parry said he wants “a senator that is not worried about being politically correct. Welfare is meant to be a safety net, not a hammock.”

More details here: It takes a worried man: SD 26 GOP Endorsee Mike Parry scrubs potentially offensive twitter posts - Bluestem Prairie.

(Hat tip: KT.)

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196 comments

Dark_Falcon Fri, Jan 1, 2010 1:11:55pm

Lovely. Sounds just the sort of man one would invite to one’s Tea Party.

/spits

Jimmah Fri, Jan 1, 2010 1:12:06pm

There is something rotten in the state of Minnesota.

iceweasel Fri, Jan 1, 2010 1:17:41pm

There’s absolutely no racism in the US, none. Especially not on the right.

Hey, look over there, it’s a nasty comment about Rush by a Kos commenter!

/obligatory wingnut deflection post.

freetoken Fri, Jan 1, 2010 1:18:13pm

I was just watching the New Years Bloggingheads edition and the supposed “trend of the decade” for the last 10 years was the increase in transparency that is happening to all people, especially those in the public.

The “electronic footprint” an individual now has is becoming important to that person’s life, in all spheres.

webevintage Fri, Jan 1, 2010 1:18:24pm

Why, oh why do pols think that you can just say anything on facebook and twitter and not have anyone notice?
Or that if you delete things that they actually go away?

(even though it is teh awesome that the inter-tubes have helped show how mean and nasty some of these folks actually are)

Dark_Falcon Fri, Jan 1, 2010 1:19:18pm

re: #2 Jimmah

There is something rotten in the state of Minnesota.

It’s probably something in the water of some of the lakes. Ugh, I just realized how close that sounds to the plot of some fifth-rate SyeFye Channel movie.

brookly red Fri, Jan 1, 2010 1:21:30pm

re: #2 Jimmah

There is something rotten in the state of Minnesota.

yeah, and just when I thought it was all covered the other day… sheesh.

SteveC Fri, Jan 1, 2010 1:23:17pm

re: #3 iceweasel

There’s absolutely no racism in the US, none. Especially not on the right.

Hey, look over there, it’s a nasty comment about Rush by a Kos commenter!

/obligatory wingnut deflection post.

Damn, Ice… I thought those bracelets were just fashion accessories (they match your eyes, my lady!) but you use them like Wonder Woman!

windsagio Fri, Jan 1, 2010 1:23:24pm

re: #3 iceweasel

I’m waiting for the obligatory ‘most of the votes against the Civil Rights Act were Democrats!!!!’

iceweasel Fri, Jan 1, 2010 1:24:07pm

re: #7 brookly red

yeah, and just when I thought it was all covered the other day… sheesh.

I can’t even keep up with it. Pawlenty, this, there’s seemingly no end to the tide of wingnut crap pumping out of that state. Weird.

SixDegrees Fri, Jan 1, 2010 1:25:14pm

Well, at least he took them down. In an earlier thread, the criticism was made that such comments are all too frequently left untouched, so I guess this is an improvement over that sort of neglect, if nothing else.

Better would have been had they not appeared in the first place. Which shouldn’t even have to be mentioned, but such mention is apparently necessary for some readers.

windsagio Fri, Jan 1, 2010 1:25:34pm

Actually I’m curious now, what is with the Dems and pedophiles?

Mark Pennington Fri, Jan 1, 2010 1:26:27pm

They’re just like that Energizer Bunny…just keeps going and going and going.

Locker Fri, Jan 1, 2010 1:26:29pm

re: #11 SixDegrees

Yea that’s similar to my thoughts. At least he took them down which to me shows some understanding that, while he may not thing they were wrong, they could affect his aspirations in some negative way.

iceweasel Fri, Jan 1, 2010 1:26:43pm

re: #9 windsagio

I’m waiting for the obligatory ‘most of the votes against the Civil Rights Act were Democrats!!!’

Ah yes. Haven’t seen that one yet today. Give it time.

re: #8 SteveC

Damn, Ice… I thought those bracelets were just fashion accessories (they match your eyes, my lady!) but you use them like Wonder Woman!

Updings for all superhero references! Especially when they’re female!

Charles Johnson Fri, Jan 1, 2010 1:26:49pm

re: #11 SixDegrees

Well, at least he took them down. In an earlier thread, the criticism was made that such comments are all too frequently left untouched, so I guess this is an improvement over that sort of neglect, if nothing else.

Better would have been had they not appeared in the first place. Which shouldn’t even have to be mentioned, but such mention is apparently necessary for some readers.

He took them down after he got caught.

And because he’s running for office.

There’s really not much to praise about the fact that he deleted his comments, when it’s pretty clear his motivation was not because he understood they were wrong, but because he wanted to hide them.

Locker Fri, Jan 1, 2010 1:27:40pm

re: #12 windsagio

Actually I’m curious now, what is with the Dems and pedophiles?

I think most Dems are on the “feed em to the wood chipper” side of things while most Repubs are on the “slow roast em over a spit” side of things. I’m sure we could come to a bipartisan solution.

iceweasel Fri, Jan 1, 2010 1:27:58pm

re: #12 windsagio

Actually I’m curious now, what is with the Dems and pedophiles?

Pedophile Republicans are identified as Dems on Fox News. That’s what. /

more seriously, this is an attempt by the wingnut to bring up the smears about Kevin jennings being peddled, I’d guess.

SixDegrees Fri, Jan 1, 2010 1:28:19pm

re: #16 Charles

He took them down after he got caught.

And because he’s running for office.

There’s really not much to praise about the fact that he deleted his comments, when it’s pretty clear his motivation was not because he understood they were wrong, but because he wanted to hide them.

Hence my second paragraph.

windsagio Fri, Jan 1, 2010 1:29:09pm

Also, forgive my ignorance, but am I right that these are all tweets that he posted?

Because if so, that makes it substantially different than the ‘moderation’ discussion that was going on about the HuffPo the other day.

Locker Fri, Jan 1, 2010 1:29:38pm

re: #20 windsagio

Yes I believe they were “his” tweets.

SteveC Fri, Jan 1, 2010 1:31:30pm

re: #15 iceweasel

Updings for all superhero references! Especially when they’re female!

You don’t have to have superpowers to be a heroine

windsagio Fri, Jan 1, 2010 1:31:43pm

re: #21 Locker

/feigned shock and outrage

Good lord! And he’s running for Senate?!

Vicious Babushka Fri, Jan 1, 2010 1:32:18pm

Later, lizards. I’ll see ya’ll tomorrow night!

Lidane Fri, Jan 1, 2010 1:33:55pm

re: #16 Charles

He took them down after he got caught.

And because he’s running for office.

There’s really not much to praise about the fact that he deleted his comments, when it’s pretty clear his motivation was not because he understood they were wrong, but because he wanted to hide them.

Exactly.

This isn’t someone feeling contrite for posting something he shouldn’t have and deleting his comments due to a sincere change of heart. It’s someone trying to cover his own ass and salvage his campaign after he revealed himself to be a bigot. That’s hardly praiseworthy.

Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Jan 1, 2010 1:34:03pm

Can I get a “hell yeah”?

Maybe some of that per hour wage will help pay for the incarceration.

iceweasel Fri, Jan 1, 2010 1:35:01pm

re: #20 windsagio

Also, forgive my ignorance, but am I right that these are all tweets that he posted?

Because if so, that makes it substantially different than the ‘moderation’ discussion that was going on about the HuffPo the other day.

Stuff only winds up in your twitter account either because 1) you wrote it, or 2) you thought it was important enough to repost what someone else said (retweet).
Barring someone hacking his account.

Hey, it says 140 characters per tweet, but you can get an account without having one.

NJDhockeyfan Fri, Jan 1, 2010 1:35:38pm

re: #23 windsagio

/feigned shock and outrage

Good lord! And he’s running for Senate?!

From the state that gave us Senator Al Franken, nothing surprises me anymore.

reine.de.tout Fri, Jan 1, 2010 1:36:13pm

re: #11 SixDegrees

Well, at least he took them down. In an earlier thread, the criticism was made that such comments are all too frequently left untouched, so I guess this is an improvement over that sort of neglect, if nothing else.

Better would have been had they not appeared in the first place. Which shouldn’t even have to be mentioned, but such mention is apparently necessary for some readers.

SixDegrees - I think these were things he himself said … not things other people said that he is now getting rid of.

SixDegrees Fri, Jan 1, 2010 1:37:04pm

re: #26 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Can I get a “hell yeah”?

Maybe some of that per hour wage will help pay for the incarceration.

Totally works for me. It heartens me when I drive past prisoner work details around here, picking up trash alongside the freeways. And generally, they don’t get paid; it’s part of their restitution to do community service of some kind.

Of course, with the snow we get around here, it would only be a matter of time before one of them went into cardiac vapor lock on the job, and the state had a wrongful death claim on it’s hands.

reine.de.tout Fri, Jan 1, 2010 1:37:34pm

re: #22 SteveC

You don’t have to have superpowers to be a heroine

Super powers?
Somebody’s DNA got unwound?

windsagio Fri, Jan 1, 2010 1:38:18pm

re: #31 reine.de.tout

If I wish my superpower was dinging more than once so I could properly reward that comment :)

SixDegrees Fri, Jan 1, 2010 1:41:10pm

re: #29 reine.de.tout

Yes, I realize that.

There are three possibilities. I’ve already voted for the one I would have liked to see: such comments not appearing in the first place. Of the remaining two: the comments were made, but were subsequently removed, or were left up, I think the latter would be even worse than removing them, though.

I’m trying to overcome my normal curmudgeonly nature and look for the positive side of things. Today, anyway. It may not be a sustainable effort.

SteveC Fri, Jan 1, 2010 1:41:28pm

re: #32 windsagio

If I wish my superpower was dinging more than once so I could properly reward that comment :)

It was a good one, so I dinged him too! :)

SteveC Fri, Jan 1, 2010 1:42:50pm

re: #31 reine.de.tout

Super powers?
Somebody’s DNA got unwound?

Superpowers can come in handy!

Escaped Hillbilly Fri, Jan 1, 2010 1:42:57pm

I have to admit my ignorance. Can someone inform me. I don’t tweet or twitter…don’t think I’m going to start. Does a tweet post mean it comes from the person who is on the account? Or can it come from another person?

reine.de.tout Fri, Jan 1, 2010 1:44:25pm

re: #33 SixDegrees

Yes, I realize that.

There are three possibilities. I’ve already voted for the one I would have liked to see: such comments not appearing in the first place. Of the remaining two: the comments were made, but were subsequently removed, or were left up, I think the latter would be even worse than removing them, though.

I’m trying to overcome my normal curmudgeonly nature and look for the positive side of things. Today, anyway. It may not be a sustainable effort.

In this case, I’m not sure it’s worth even trying to make it a sustainable effort.

These aren’t things somebody posted, they are things the guy himself said. Utterly wrong-headed mindset, imo.

reine.de.tout Fri, Jan 1, 2010 1:44:51pm

re: #34 SteveC

It was a good one, so I dinged him too! :)

It was me you dinged, and I’m a “she” him.

kellygrrrl Fri, Jan 1, 2010 1:44:56pm

actually, I consider this a good sign … that any GOPer might possess the capacity to recognize poor taste and possibly feel some semblance of shame = improvement

Dark_Falcon Fri, Jan 1, 2010 1:45:24pm

re: #36 Escaped Hillbilly

I have to admit my ignorance. Can someone inform me. I don’t tweet or twitter…don’t think I’m going to start. Does a tweet post mean it comes from the person who is on the account? Or can it come from another person?

People with accounts can ‘retweet’ other people’s posts. I myself don’t use Twitter. My explanations and descriptions of things are fairly long-winded and don’t lend themselves to brevity unless I’m afraid of the conversation moving away from me.

Charles Johnson Fri, Jan 1, 2010 1:45:29pm

re: #36 Escaped Hillbilly

I have to admit my ignorance. Can someone inform me. I don’t tweet or twitter…don’t think I’m going to start. Does a tweet post mean it comes from the person who is on the account? Or can it come from another person?

These tweets came from Mike Parry — they were posted with his account. The only way they would come from someone else is if Parry had let someone else use his Twitter account, which is highly unlikely.

SixDegrees Fri, Jan 1, 2010 1:45:44pm

re: #37 reine.de.tout

In this case, I’m not sure it’s worth even trying to make it a sustainable effort.

These aren’t things somebody posted, they are things the guy himself said. Utterly wrong-headed mindset, imo.

Would it have been better if he had left them posted?

freetoken Fri, Jan 1, 2010 1:45:51pm

re: #36 Escaped Hillbilly

Twitterers tweet.

We read the tweets.

reine.de.tout Fri, Jan 1, 2010 1:46:48pm

re: #42 SixDegrees

Would it have been better if he had left them posted?

I don’t care what he did after the fact.
The fact that he posted these things to begin with are what I find bothersome.

freetoken Fri, Jan 1, 2010 1:47:32pm

Speaking of racists, I see that Malkin is running with the “czars” as the story of the year, in her Townhall post.

Of everything that happened in the world in 2009, she thinks her own hatred of Obama is the story of the year.

Now that is ego.

Kronocide Fri, Jan 1, 2010 1:48:20pm

thisstuff stas on d innernet 4 ions dude

Escaped Hillbilly Fri, Jan 1, 2010 1:48:33pm

re: #40 Dark_Falcon
Thanks, and thanks to Charles too. God I hate how out of date I’ve gotten.

SixDegrees Fri, Jan 1, 2010 1:48:46pm

re: #40 Dark_Falcon

People with accounts can ‘retweet’ other people’s posts. I myself don’t use Twitter. My explanations and descriptions of things are fairly long-winded and don’t lend themselves to brevity unless I’m afraid of the conversation moving away from me.

Not to hijack this topic, but during the Iranian protests there was a lot of talk about twitter “feeds” that I took to be sort of like open accounts anyone could post to, but provided a single account for subscribers to sign on to for reading. It sounds as though this understanding is wrong on my part, but clarification would be appreciated.

Dark_Falcon Fri, Jan 1, 2010 1:49:05pm

re: #39 kellygrrrl

actually, I consider this a good sign … that any GOPer might possess the capacity to recognize poor taste and possibly feel some semblance of shame = improvement

It’s not really shame. He’s not sorry he did it, he’s sorry because he got caught. So, Mr. Parry, go on and take a bow:

Youtube Video

reine.de.tout Fri, Jan 1, 2010 1:49:05pm

re: #39 kellygrrrl

actually, I consider this a good sign … that any GOPer might possess the capacity to recognize poor taste and possibly feel some semblance of shame = improvement

I’m a GOPer I’ve always had the capacity to recognize poor taste and feel shame. We do exist. Thanks for the broad brush.

(I’m really beginning to understand why Mandy uses the “go piss up a rope” phrase.)
/

SteveC Fri, Jan 1, 2010 1:49:24pm

re: #38 reine.de.tout

It was me you dinged, and I’m a “she” him.

D’OH! Here, get this Kryptonite away from me….

“Stupid is as stupid does, Ma’m.” - Forrest Gump.

SixDegrees Fri, Jan 1, 2010 1:50:23pm

re: #44 reine.de.tout

I don’t care what he did after the fact.
The fact that he posted these things to begin with are what I find bothersome.

Yes, that’s my feeling as well; see my first post.

Once they have been posted, though, my preference would be to see them removed rather than to see them remain.

Dark_Falcon Fri, Jan 1, 2010 1:50:33pm

re: #48 SixDegrees

Not to hijack this topic, but during the Iranian protests there was a lot of talk about twitter “feeds” that I took to be sort of like open accounts anyone could post to, but provided a single account for subscribers to sign on to for reading. It sounds as though this understanding is wrong on my part, but clarification would be appreciated.

Its possible multiple people were provided the login information for a Twitter account, allowing all of them to post on an account.

brookly red Fri, Jan 1, 2010 1:51:09pm

re: #48 SixDegrees

Not to hijack this topic, but during the Iranian protests there was a lot of talk about twitter “feeds” that I took to be sort of like open accounts anyone could post to, but provided a single account for subscribers to sign on to for reading. It sounds as though this understanding is wrong on my part, but clarification would be appreciated.

I seem to remember reading that the Iranians had found a way to block or jam tweets… could be wrong though.

Escaped Hillbilly Fri, Jan 1, 2010 1:51:39pm

re: #43 freetoken
I taught I tah a puddy tat. Phrases like this are part of why I’ve stayed away. That and what Dark Falcon said. I can’t express myself in so short a space. Even these posts sometimes get misconstrued due to their brevity. I don’t see anyone saying much intelligent in so short a space. I think they lend themselves to the kind of ignorant, off the cuff, unthought out crud we are seeing from this one. Hope it costs him a vote or two.

SteveC Fri, Jan 1, 2010 1:51:58pm

re: #53 Dark_Falcon

Its possible multiple people were provided the login information for a Twitter account, allowing all of them to post on an account.

These people would make some interesting tweets…

Stan the Demanded Plan Fri, Jan 1, 2010 1:52:39pm

“read the exclusive on Mr O in Newsweek. He is a Power Hungry Arrogant Black Man.”

I hope this guy has no chance. This is crazy talk.

SixDegrees Fri, Jan 1, 2010 1:52:47pm

re: #53 Dark_Falcon

Its possible multiple people were provided the login information for a Twitter account, allowing all of them to post on an account.

I see. That would more or less match the descriptions I read during the protests.

iceweasel Fri, Jan 1, 2010 1:54:14pm

re: #45 freetoken

Speaking of racists, I see that Malkin is running with the “czars” as the story of the year, in her Townhall post.

Of everything that happened in the world in 2009, she thinks her own hatred of Obama is the story of the year.

Now that is ego.

It certainly wasn’t for lack of ~~braying~~ trying on her part.

Escaped Hillbilly Fri, Jan 1, 2010 1:54:31pm

re: #56 SteveC
They wouldn’t waste the time. The Riddler one the other hand…

SixDegrees Fri, Jan 1, 2010 1:54:42pm

re: #56 SteveC

These people would make some interesting tweets…

Who’s the blond on the far right? I think I recognize everybody else.

Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Jan 1, 2010 1:55:22pm

speaking of twitter and things inter-nutty…

LOL is used all too frequently. For example from my facebook page this afternoon…

WOOOHOOO WEST VA. GOT ANOTHER TOUCHDOWN LOL WTG

oh well wtg fla…boy that was a great game…both teams played outstanding lol….good way to start out the year…

Why in the hell did this person type “LOL”?

reine.de.tout Fri, Jan 1, 2010 1:55:28pm

re: #48 SixDegrees

Not to hijack this topic, but during the Iranian protests there was a lot of talk about twitter “feeds” that I took to be sort of like open accounts anyone could post to, but provided a single account for subscribers to sign on to for reading. It sounds as though this understanding is wrong on my part, but clarification would be appreciated.

People tweeting about a particular topic will use tags - for instance, the most recent Iran tags worth watching were #ashura and/or #iranelection.

Anyhow - you can get onto something like tweetdeck or tweetgrid, and enter those tags so that you get ONLY tweets on that topic.

With tweetgrid.com, I’m not sure that you have to have your own twitter account - I think you may be able to get to tweetgrid and use it to watch what’s being tweeted.

Girth Fri, Jan 1, 2010 1:56:28pm

re: #43 freetoken

Twitterers tweet.

We read the tweets.

[Link: www.cleeseblog.com…]

iceweasel Fri, Jan 1, 2010 1:56:33pm

re: #53 Dark_Falcon

Its possible multiple people were provided the login information for a Twitter account, allowing all of them to post on an account.

Yes,— for example, Jimmah and I have a single twitter account and share the login. But if that had happened, you know he immediately would have said so, and that it was some staffer who would be fired for it.
There’s no doubt it was him. (he?).

Dark_Falcon Fri, Jan 1, 2010 1:57:34pm

re: #60 Escaped Hillbilly

They wouldn’t waste the time. The Riddler one the other hand…

His riddles would fit. And they’d drive some other people to distraction.

Ojoe Fri, Jan 1, 2010 1:59:59pm

Twitter Twitter
Bo Bitter
Banana Fanna
Fo Fitter
Me My Mo
Omitter
Twitter.

Twitter, creature of the modern attention span.

Escaped Hillbilly Fri, Jan 1, 2010 2:00:03pm

re: #66 Dark_Falcon
Holy Twit Bat Man!

brookly red Fri, Jan 1, 2010 2:01:06pm

re: #65 iceweasel

Yes,— for example, Jimmah and I have a single twitter account and share the login. But if that had happened, you know he immediately would have said so, and that it was some staffer who would be fired for it.
There’s no doubt it was him. (he?).

/meanwhile back in Minnesota as the staffers gather to choose straws…

SteveC Fri, Jan 1, 2010 2:01:12pm

re: #61 SixDegrees

Who’s the blond on the far right? I think I recognize everybody else.

I’m pretty sure that’s Black Canary

Charles Johnson Fri, Jan 1, 2010 2:01:13pm

Idiotblogger Gateway Pundit (Jim Hoft) is giddy with praise for the Bulgarian media, because they picked up on his disgusting smears of Obama’s education minister Kevin Jennings:

[Link: gatewaypundit.firstthings.com…]

Hoft thinks the American media are deliberately ignoring the story, to cover for President Obama. It apparently doesn’t even enter his consciousness that the reason US media are ignoring him is because his source for everything he’s been posting is a vicious anti-gay hate group, Mass Resistance, with absolutely no credibility.

So instead he praises the “courageous” Bulgarian media.

I almost can’t believe how creepy and weird the right wing blogosphere is getting.

Dark_Falcon Fri, Jan 1, 2010 2:01:42pm

re: #67 Ojoe

Twitter Twitter
Bo Bitter
Banana Fanna
Fo Fitter
Me My Mo
Omitter
Twitter.

Twitter, creature of the modern attention span.

ADD plays a role in it, no doubt about it.

SixDegrees Fri, Jan 1, 2010 2:01:55pm

re: #63 reine.de.tout

People tweeting about a particular topic will use tags - for instance, the most recent Iran tags worth watching were #ashura and/or #iranelection.

Anyhow - you can get onto something like tweetdeck or tweetgrid, and enter those tags so that you get ONLY tweets on that topic.

With tweetgrid.com, I’m not sure that you have to have your own twitter account - I think you may be able to get to tweetgrid and use it to watch what’s being tweeted.

I see. And those tags just get added spontaneously, I assume. Interesting.

Well, sort of interesting. I have to admit, I just don’t see the point or value of Twitter. It was kinda neat during the Iranian protests because the authorities didn’t figure out how to shut it down until it was too late, but they seem to have wised up this time around and quickly blocked the service.

tradewind Fri, Jan 1, 2010 2:02:39pm

re: #3 iceweasel
The thing is, you wouldn’t have to ’ look over there’ at Kos….. almost every post re Limbaugh’s hospitalization at any site that purporting to be ’ moderate ‘, much less liberal, was full of ’ Please die already and make my year’ comments.
Just saying.

SixDegrees Fri, Jan 1, 2010 2:03:37pm

re: #70 SteveC

I’m pretty sure that’s Black Canary

Damn. I don’t know how I missed her while growing up.

iceweasel Fri, Jan 1, 2010 2:03:53pm

You can search topics on twitter without having an account.
[Link: twitter.com…]

You can keep an eye on whatever hashtag you’re interested in that way.

BTW, anyone watching the spread of racism on the right should keep an eye on the #tcot tag. It stands for Top Conservatives on Twitter, and the amount of racist garbage pouring through it is something to behold. (anyone at all can use the tcot tag, but these aren’t lefties infiltrating the list).

reine.de.tout Fri, Jan 1, 2010 2:06:21pm

re: #73 SixDegrees

I see. And those tags just get added spontaneously, I assume. Interesting.

Well, sort of interesting. I have to admit, I just don’t see the point or value of Twitter. It was kinda neat during the Iranian protests because the authorities didn’t figure out how to shut it down until it was too late, but they seem to have wised up this time around and quickly blocked the service.

I had a twitter account for a long time, and never ever used it. The only time I found it interesting and useful was during the Iran protests. And of course now, I retweet most of LGF’s posts. Although frankly, the only people “following” me are those who regularly send me tweets calling me a “brainless idiot for being Charles’ stooge” or things along those lines.

Jimmah Fri, Jan 1, 2010 2:06:43pm

re: #50 reine.de.tout

I’m a GOPer I’ve always had the capacity to recognize poor taste and feel shame. We do exist. Thanks for the broad brush.

(I’m really beginning to understand why Mandy uses the “go piss up a rope” phrase.)
/

Sure - for example, if someone were to post with an avatar of say, a kid pissing on the word “Allah” - that capacity to recognize poor taste and feel shame would kick right in./

SteveC Fri, Jan 1, 2010 2:07:05pm

re: #75 SixDegrees

Damn. I don’t know how I missed her while growing up.

When Alex Ross draws, it looks like a photograph. He’s that good!

iceweasel Fri, Jan 1, 2010 2:07:32pm

re: #74 tradewind

The thing is, you wouldn’t have to ’ look over there’ at Kos… almost every post re Limbaugh’s hospitalization at any site that purporting to be ’ moderate ‘, much less liberal, was full of ’ Please die already and make my year’ comments.
Just saying.

And here I thought getting the obligatory deflection post in at #3 would mean that it would be at least 100 comments before someone tried to turn the topic into “Hey, look over there at what some lefties are doing! Can we? Please?”

Just sayin.

SteveC Fri, Jan 1, 2010 2:07:47pm

BBL!

SixDegrees Fri, Jan 1, 2010 2:08:06pm

re: #76 iceweasel

You can search topics on twitter without having an account.
[Link: twitter.com…]

You can keep an eye on whatever hashtag you’re interested in that way.

BTW, anyone watching the spread of racism on the right should keep an eye on the #tcot tag. It stands for Top Conservatives on Twitter, and the amount of racist garbage pouring through it is something to behold. (anyone at all can use the tcot tag, but these aren’t lefties infiltrating the list).

How does one distinguish between a leftie infiltrator and a rightie true believer? Is there a tag for that or something?

I sort of remember, during the first round of Iranian protests last year, that government forces turned to posting false tweets when they were unable to shut down the cell networks. Is there some mechanism that allowed protesters to detect these as bogus?

Girth Fri, Jan 1, 2010 2:08:10pm

The Mike Leach/Texas Tech story is going to get very interesting…

[Link: www.nytimes.com…]

The way Craig James got ESPN to run with this was a little fishy to me.

Dark_Falcon Fri, Jan 1, 2010 2:08:18pm

re: #74 tradewind

The thing is, you wouldn’t have to ’ look over there’ at Kos… almost every post re Limbaugh’s hospitalization at any site that purporting to be ’ moderate ‘, much less liberal, was full of ’ Please die already and make my year’ comments.
Just saying.

True. We were talking about that on Wednesday. The main difference between the responsible sites and the irresponsible sites is that the responsible ones delete comments like that and ban people who post them repeatedly. Some sites decline to do that because they want to maximize their traffic and banning crazies causes them to go elsewhere to get their freak on. Shortsighted, but true.

jaunte Fri, Jan 1, 2010 2:09:50pm

re: #71 Charles

I almost can’t believe how creepy and weird the right wing blogosphere is getting.

They do have Pat Buchanan to keep up with, and that’s a pretty low mark.

Dark_Falcon Fri, Jan 1, 2010 2:10:07pm

re: #82 SixDegrees

How does one distinguish between a leftie infiltrator and a rightie true believer? Is there a tag for that or something?

I sort of remember, during the first round of Iranian protests last year, that government forces turned to posting false tweets when they were unable to shut down the cell networks. Is there some mechanism that allowed protesters to detect these as bogus?

You have to try to sort it out yourself, I’m afraid.

reine.de.tout Fri, Jan 1, 2010 2:10:29pm

re: #82 SixDegrees

How does one distinguish between a leftie infiltrator and a rightie true believer? Is there a tag for that or something?

I sort of remember, during the first round of Iranian protests last year, that government forces turned to posting false tweets when they were unable to shut down the cell networks. Is there some mechanism that allowed protesters to detect these as bogus?

No mechanism that I know of - but the protestors were very quickly able to figure out which twitter accounts were gov’t accounts, and they sent out warnings not to trust things sent out by this or that account.

SixDegrees Fri, Jan 1, 2010 2:11:03pm

re: #86 Dark_Falcon

You have to try to sort it out yourself, I’m afraid.

I see. Thanks.

iceweasel Fri, Jan 1, 2010 2:11:21pm

re: #82 SixDegrees

How does one distinguish between a leftie infiltrator and a rightie true believer? Is there a tag for that or something?

You can take a look at the person’s actual twitter account and see what else they are tweeting, who they are following and who is following them.
It’s possible for someone to set up a dummy account and use it solely for impersonation purposes, but it would require a lot of work and effort (you’d have to ‘stay in character’ and use it several times a day)— it’s not like the old trolling strategy of leaving a single blog comment (or even several).

reine.de.tout Fri, Jan 1, 2010 2:11:28pm

re: #78 Jimmah

Sure - for example, if someone were to post with an avatar of say, a kid pissing on the word “Allah” - that capacity to recognize poor taste and feel shame would kick right in./

You talking about Mandy or me?
Just curious.

Jimmah Fri, Jan 1, 2010 2:14:01pm

re: #82 SixDegrees

How does one distinguish between a leftie infiltrator and a rightie true believer? Is there a tag for that or something?

I sort of remember, during the first round of Iranian protests last year, that government forces turned to posting false tweets when they were unable to shut down the cell networks. Is there some mechanism that allowed protesters to detect these as bogus?

Maybe all the right wing blogs like Hot Air, Ace of Spades etc are absolutely heaving with leftie infiltrators. Yes, maybe that’s what’s happening! ///

freetoken Fri, Jan 1, 2010 2:14:56pm

re: #71 Charles

“JesusLand” is the land of hate…

Makes one cringe.

sattv4u2 Fri, Jan 1, 2010 2:15:14pm

re: #90 reine.de.tout

You talking about Mandy or me?
Just curious.

To your #50 and this one,

“Broad Brushing Never Means You Have To Say You’re Sorry”

Dark_Falcon Fri, Jan 1, 2010 2:16:05pm

re: #91 Jimmah

Maybe all the right wing blogs like Hot Air, Ace of Spades etc are absolutely heaving with leftie infiltrators. Yes, maybe that’s what’s happening! ///

Jimmah, he asked an honest question. I don’t think its intent was to obscure the hate the loonies put out, but rather he wanted to know how to find the truth.

Firstinla Fri, Jan 1, 2010 2:16:25pm

Happy New Year to all. I hope 2010 brings everyone all the things they wish for (and I hope there are no conflicting wishes!). Celebrating my birthday today and watching my nephew play in the Rose Bowl.

SixDegrees Fri, Jan 1, 2010 2:16:37pm

re: #84 Dark_Falcon

True. We were talking about that on Wednesday. The main difference between the responsible sites and the irresponsible sites is that the responsible ones delete comments like that and ban people who post them repeatedly. Some sites decline to do that because they want to maximize their traffic and banning crazies causes them to go elsewhere to get their freak on. Shortsighted, but true.

Depends on what your goals are, I guess. If all you want to do is churn a lot of page refreshes, encouraging or just allowing the most rabid OCD kooks to run rampant will get you there in a hurry, and might even marginally boost your ad revenues.

Ultimately, though, even the most braindead ad placement software is going to notice that all of your 5000 hits per day are coming from 5 IP addresses, though.

sattv4u2 Fri, Jan 1, 2010 2:17:04pm

re: #94 Dark_Falcon

ditto

Thats how I read SIX’s question ,and I was really hoping for an answer, as I wanted to know also

Jimmah Fri, Jan 1, 2010 2:17:24pm

re: #90 reine.de.tout

You talking about Mandy or me?
Just curious.

Both, I guess. My point is that (as the thread topic also illustrates) sometimes GOP’ers clearly need a little help in recognising poor taste and feeling shame.

Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Jan 1, 2010 2:18:59pm

re: #83 Girth

Sounds like vendetta shit to me.

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SixDegrees Fri, Jan 1, 2010 2:19:37pm

re: #94 Dark_Falcon

Jimmah, he asked an honest question. I don’t think its intent was to obscure the hate the loonies put out, but rather he wanted to know how to find the truth.

Thanks. I don’t know jack about twitter, so most of the response here have been educational and useful.

Whatever my intent may be, I try to make sure it’s crystal clear.

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iceweasel Fri, Jan 1, 2010 2:19:54pm

re: #87 reine.de.tout

No mechanism that I know of - but the protestors were very quickly able to figure out which twitter accounts were gov’t accounts, and they sent out warnings not to trust things sent out by this or that account.

The way they did it was by examining the rest of the social network that the twitter account was linked to, as I explained above. If you’re part of the network, it’s progressively more difficult for people to fool you (or those also connected to you).

The analogy would be with setting up a really convincing fake Facebook account. You’d check into all the people they’re connected with if you thought something was fishy. Eventually you’d be able to tell, but only because of where you yourself are in the social network.

A real-world analogy would be meeting someone who pretends to work in your industry. They might have enough superficial knowledge to ‘pass’ in casual conversation, but given enough time you’d be able to know something was up.

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Jimmah Fri, Jan 1, 2010 2:20:50pm

re: #100 SixDegrees

Thanks. I don’t know jack about twitter, so most of the response here have been educational and useful.

Whatever my intent may be, I try to make sure it’s crystal clear.

Fair enough.

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sattv4u2 Fri, Jan 1, 2010 2:20:53pm

re: #99 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Sounds like vendetta shit to me.

Leach was on a show this a.m. Stated that Daddy James hounded the coaching staff more than all other parents combined

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reine.de.tout Fri, Jan 1, 2010 2:21:00pm

re: #98 Jimmah

Both, I guess. My point is that (as the thread topic also illustrates) sometimes GOP’ers clearly need a little help in recognising poor taste and feeling shame.

Ah.
Like, for instance, wedding videos of cats.
Yes. Very good taste.
/

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tradewind Fri, Jan 1, 2010 2:21:21pm

re: #92 freetoken
So does that phrasing.

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Dark_Falcon Fri, Jan 1, 2010 2:21:55pm

re: #96 SixDegrees

Depends on what your goals are, I guess. If all you want to do is churn a lot of page refreshes, encouraging or just allowing the most rabid OCD kooks to run rampant will get you there in a hurry, and might even marginally boost your ad revenues.

Ultimately, though, even the most braindead ad placement software is going to notice that all of your 5000 hits per day are coming from 5 IP addresses, though.

That’s why its shortsighted. Ultimately, crazies drive off the sane people with their hate and rage. That’s why the Huffington Post has been working to clean out the loonies who post comments hoping people die. They want the sort of money stature that only respectability can bring, and that means removing nut-jobs.

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tradewind Fri, Jan 1, 2010 2:22:56pm

re: #89 iceweasel
Not if they protect their tweets.

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Gus Fri, Jan 1, 2010 2:23:27pm

re: #71 Charles

Idiotblogger Gateway Pundit (Jim Hoft) is giddy with praise for the Bulgarian media, because they picked up on his disgusting smears of Obama’s education minister Kevin Jennings:

[Link: gatewaypundit.firstthings.com…]

Hoft thinks the American media are deliberately ignoring the story, to cover for President Obama. It apparently doesn’t even enter his consciousness that the reason US media are ignoring him is because his source for everything he’s been posting is a vicious anti-gay hate group, Mass Resistance, with absolutely no credibility.

So instead he praises the “courageous” Bulgarian media.

I almost can’t believe how creepy and weird the right wing blogosphere is getting.

Yes at a website with the same name of the author, Ivan Stamenov. Let’s have a look at some other aritcle titles on the website IvanStamenov:

Decade of despotism - by Alex Jones, Steve Watson and Paul Watson

Third World War in the prophecies of Alois Irlmayer - Extract from Kremanskoto prophecy of Mitar Tarabich

Carbon eugenics: genocide over their environment is genocide

Chilling: Document of the UN describes the objectives of the new global religion

Across the Russian archives: Aliens fall for oceans

Entente in Copenhagen establish the structure of global government

If you click on the last link you can see the Illuminati symbol. The site is basically a conspiracy site replete with prophecies, NWO paranoia, and other pathological concerns.

Lastly have a look at the article In anticipation of the hundredth monkey for the ultimate in paranoia at the website that Jim Holt and Gateway Pundit have given a warm welcome.

It doesn’t get any more bizarre than this.

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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Jan 1, 2010 2:23:43pm

re: #78 Jimmah

recognize poor taste

Poor taste? Like bringing up someone who isn’t here?

Nothing personal, Jimmah. I don’t think that it is fair to do that.

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Girth Fri, Jan 1, 2010 2:24:04pm

re: #99 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Sounds like vendetta shit to me.

I think ESPN and Craig James might have a rather large legal problem.

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iceweasel Fri, Jan 1, 2010 2:24:09pm

re: #84 Dark_Falcon

True. We were talking about that on Wednesday. The main difference between the responsible sites and the irresponsible sites is that the responsible ones delete comments like that and ban people who post them repeatedly. Some sites decline to do that because they want to maximize their traffic and banning crazies causes them to go elsewhere to get their freak on. Shortsighted, but true.

Some sites are lazy and don’t moderate for that reason. And some are actively encouraging and fostering what’s happening in their comments— Malkin and Breitbart, for example.

That’s teh real reason they never retract their errors. They know their audience isn’t actually interested in facts or reality. They want the red meat of raw emotions (hateful and prejudicial emotions, mostly). And breitbart and malkin are delighted to provide it.

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Charles Johnson Fri, Jan 1, 2010 2:24:26pm

re: #108 Gus 802

Whoa.

OK, I was wavering on whether to post about this, but that settles it.

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reine.de.tout Fri, Jan 1, 2010 2:24:31pm

re: #109 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Poor taste? Like bringing up someone who isn’t here?

Nothing personal, Jimmah. I don’t think that it is fair to do that.

FBV - I’m here, and he was talking about me too.
So - perfectly fair.

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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Jan 1, 2010 2:24:54pm

re: #103 sattv4u2

Leach was on a show this a.m. Stated that Daddy James hounded the coaching staff more than all other parents combined

I saw that too. And, Leach had documentation.

Uh. Oh.

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Jimmah Fri, Jan 1, 2010 2:25:01pm

re: #104 reine.de.tout

Ah.
Like, for instance, wedding videos of cats.
Yes. Very good taste.
/

CATS? Expressing affection the way God created them to? OMG! How awful. Why that’s every bit as bad as sectarian bigotry isn’t it? Simply must downding that wedding video, eh!

Seriously.

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SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Jan 1, 2010 2:25:23pm

re: #42 SixDegrees

Would it have been better if he had left them posted?

Dunno. If they were comments from supporters and he scrubbed them, it would indicate that he was taking note of appearances.

Given that they’re his own comments,I don’t know if that’s enough.

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Jimmah Fri, Jan 1, 2010 2:25:57pm

re: #109 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Poor taste? Like bringing up someone who isn’t here?

Nothing personal, Jimmah. I don’t think that it is fair to do that.

1) I didn’t bring her up.

2) I checked before posting - she’s here.

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SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Jan 1, 2010 2:25:57pm

re: #43 freetoken

Twitterers tweet.

We read the tweets.

And Stephen Colbert admits to having twatted.

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tradewind Fri, Jan 1, 2010 2:25:57pm

re: #91 Jimmah
It’s a safe bet that the most popular blogs on both sides of the spectrum have visitors who are not in agreement with their hosts’ agendas.

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SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Jan 1, 2010 2:26:36pm

re: #45 freetoken

Speaking of racists, I see that Malkin is running with the “czars” as the story of the year, in her Townhall post.

Of everything that happened in the world in 2009, she thinks her own hatred of Obama is the story of the year.

Now that is ego.

The czars aren’t a story, per se. They’re an administrative decision.

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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Jan 1, 2010 2:26:54pm

re: #113 reine.de.tout

Should’ve left the avatar out then.

Charles banned someone once who was viciously attacking a Lizard who wasn’t here.

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Gus Fri, Jan 1, 2010 2:27:00pm

re: #112 Charles

Whoa.

OK, I was wavering on whether to post about this, but that settles it.

Here’s more! Check out what Jim Holt’s buddy said here. Second paragraph. Totally anti-American Alex Jones paranois. I think it was written by the same Ivan Stamenov.

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iceweasel Fri, Jan 1, 2010 2:27:04pm

re: #107 tradewind

Not if they protect their tweets.

Yes, but that somewhat defeats the purpose of the service.
It’s interesting to see how all of this social networking etc shakes out. Who would have imagined all the applications twitter has had, such as in iran? I didn’t.

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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Jan 1, 2010 2:27:18pm

re: #117 Jimmah

Okay.

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reine.de.tout Fri, Jan 1, 2010 2:27:23pm

re: #115 Jimmah

CATS? Expressing affection the way God created them to? OMG! How awful. Why that’s every bit as bad as sectarian bigotry isn’t it? Simply must downding that wedding video, eh!

Seriously.

I never downdinged the video.

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SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Jan 1, 2010 2:27:37pm

re: #57 Stanley Sea

“read the exclusive on Mr O in Newsweek. He is a Power Hungry Arrogant Black Man.”

I hope this guy has no chance. This is crazy talk.

That, by me, is enough to eliminate this guy from any serious consideration.

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iceweasel Fri, Jan 1, 2010 2:29:18pm

re: #125 reine.de.tout

I never downdinged the video.

Appreciated.

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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Jan 1, 2010 2:29:21pm

re: #117 Jimmah

Then I’ll leave it alone. Just because someone’s name shows up under “show users” it only means they are logged in.

Happy New Year, Jimmah!

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SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Jan 1, 2010 2:29:27pm

re: #72 Dark_Falcon

ADD plays a role in it, no doubt about it.

One of our coaches signed up for Twitter accounts for a bunch of sports stars. He had fun for a week or two, announcing that Shaq was eating a burger, or whatever. Then he got bored and took himself off the lists.

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Jimmah Fri, Jan 1, 2010 2:31:00pm

re: #125 reine.de.tout

I never downdinged the video.

I know you didn’t - the wedding video was actually in the top ten comments. Clearly it wasn’t considered in poor taste by the vast majority of lizards. Only one person downdinged it, IIRC.

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iceweasel Fri, Jan 1, 2010 2:31:06pm

re: #127 iceweasel

Appreciated.

PS: but you can’t have it both ways. Don’t expect kudos for not downdinging a wedding video (!!!) and to get to call it in poor taste later when you’re losing an argument.
Well, you can, but it will be pointed out.

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tradewind Fri, Jan 1, 2010 2:31:28pm

re: #120 SanFranciscoZionist
That’s right. Maybe what the story is is not so much ’ the czars’, but the idea of the increasing degree of non-vetted, non-scrutinized **bureaucrats with power in this administration.
**Then again, some of them have backstories leading to scrutiny after the fact, and that’s another story.

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Gus Fri, Jan 1, 2010 2:31:55pm

Gateway Pundit/Jim Holt links to anti-American website.

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tradewind Fri, Jan 1, 2010 2:32:35pm

re: #128 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
When you leave the site but don’t click ’ log off ’ ( I never do that), it still shows you as online?

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SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Jan 1, 2010 2:33:08pm

re: #128 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Then I’ll leave it alone. Just because someone’s name shows up under “show users” it only means they are logged in.

Happy New Year, Jimmah!

I leave myself logged in on my home computer for as long as the machine lets me.

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Jimmah Fri, Jan 1, 2010 2:33:52pm

re: #128 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Then I’ll leave it alone. Just because someone’s name shows up under “show users” it only means they are logged in.

Happy New Year, Jimmah!

Cheers. I have now been awake for 34 hours btw and celebrated new year twice. Hooray for caffeine, jet lag and transatlantic travel!

Happy new year to you too!

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Randall Gross Fri, Jan 1, 2010 2:34:19pm

For your PM listening pleasure:

Reign of Kindo

Youtube Video

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Gus Fri, Jan 1, 2010 2:34:20pm

Gateway Pundit/Jim Holt links to anti-American website.

Fixed link. Click on the link and quickly scroll down to see the imagery.

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Dark_Falcon Fri, Jan 1, 2010 2:34:42pm

re: #130 Jimmah

I know you didn’t - the wedding video was actually in the top ten comments. Clearly it wasn’t considered in poor taste by the vast majority of lizards. Only one person downdinged it, IIRC.

I didn’t see it until now. I didn’t much care for it, but it wasn’t over the line or anything. So I did not upding nor downding it. Downdings are for when you do something wrong and you and ice clearly didn’t.

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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Jan 1, 2010 2:34:54pm

re: #117 Jimmah

1) I didn’t bring her up.

2) I checked before posting - she’s here.

Sorry Jimmah. I jumped the gun. Didn’t see the full context.

It was going on the other day. I’m not LGF police, but I do try to butt in for civility’s sake. But I mistakenly thought this was one of those times.

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iceweasel Fri, Jan 1, 2010 2:35:07pm

re: #132 tradewind

That’s right. Maybe what the story is is not so much ’ the czars’, but the idea of the increasing degree of non-vetted, non-scrutinized **bureaucrats with power in this administration.
**Then again, some of them have backstories leading to scrutiny after the fact, and that’s another story.

Um, the real story is that the proliferation of czars began under Bush, not this administration.

BTW, most of the people called ‘czars’ were actually vetted and subject to Senate confirmation.

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reine.de.tout Fri, Jan 1, 2010 2:35:23pm

re: #131 iceweasel

PS: but you can’t have it both ways. Don’t expect kudos for not downdinging a wedding video (!!!) and to get to call it in poor taste later when you’re losing an argument.
Well, you can, but it will be pointed out.

Heh.
Are you trying to say the video was in excellent taste?

It really wasn’t.
Funny perhaps LOL
But not in good taste.

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tradewind Fri, Jan 1, 2010 2:35:27pm

re: #123 iceweasel
I know. I don’t use it in the regular way, I guess… I do protect my tweets, ( since there are hardly ever any, no biggie), and I don’t use it so much to tweet as to read/scan sites quickly that I otherwise would not have time to keep up with. I just do not get the ’ what are you doing? ’ feature…. do I care that Joe Blow had pasta with clam sauce for dinner? Even a famous Joe Blow? Er, nope.

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SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Jan 1, 2010 2:36:08pm

re: #132 tradewind

That’s right. Maybe what the story is is not so much ’ the czars’, but the idea of the increasing degree of non-vetted, non-scrutinized **bureaucrats with power in this administration.
**Then again, some of them have backstories leading to scrutiny after the fact, and that’s another story.

That’s a fair story, as well. Except that:

1. None of these people gave a damn when the Bush administration was appointing czars.

2. The ‘czars’ thing was blown up into a giant, hysterical talking point, and people were led to believe that the post was unique to the Obama administration.

Seriously. If someone wants to write a reasonable, historically founded argument as to why Obama needs fewers czars, I will read it with interest. Malkin and her ilk are just throwing random mud and then insisting that it sticks.

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reine.de.tout Fri, Jan 1, 2010 2:36:57pm

re: #131 iceweasel

PS: but you can’t have it both ways. Don’t expect kudos for not downdinging a wedding video (!!!) and to get to call it in poor taste later when you’re losing an argument.
Well, you can, but it will be pointed out.

And, I neither expect or desire kudos for anything.

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tradewind Fri, Jan 1, 2010 2:37:28pm

re: #141 iceweasel
Yeah, I knew that was coming. That’s why I said the story was not so much the czars, it’s the way this administration has used them. ….mainly to get buddies into government offices who would never pass a confirmation of any kind, and in many cases, not even a security check.

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sattv4u2 Fri, Jan 1, 2010 2:37:32pm

NONVIDEOTROVESY

Didn’t see the “cat” video

Don’t intend to see the “cat” video

Even if I did see the “cat” video
wouldn’t up or downding the “cat” video

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sattv4u2 Fri, Jan 1, 2010 2:39:51pm

re: #141 iceweasel

Um, the real story is that the proliferation of czars began under Bush, not this administration.

I thought it was taboo to mention someone in the past doing sumfim making it right/ wrong that someone now does it!?!?!

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com…]

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iceweasel Fri, Jan 1, 2010 2:41:14pm

re: #142 reine.de.tout

Heh.
Are you trying to say the video was in excellent taste?

It really wasn’t.
Funny perhaps LOL
But not in good taste.

No, reine, you are the one not only trying, but actually saying, that you found it in poor taste.

Oddly, not when it was posted. Most likely for the same reason the lone downdinger waited and snuck back to downding it later— because downdinging it at the time, or criticising it as in poor taste at the time, would have seemed petty, vindictive, and begrudging of other people’s happiness.

That’s what I find to be in poor taste. YMMV.

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SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Jan 1, 2010 2:42:19pm

re: #146 tradewind

Yeah, I knew that was coming. That’s why I said the story was not so much the czars, it’s the way this administration has used them. …mainly to get buddies into government offices who would never pass a confirmation of any kind, and in many cases, not even a security check.

And if someone can demonstrate sensibly that this is either a specific problem to the Obama administration, or an ongoing multi-administration problem that should be addressed, I would be interested in reading their work.

Malkin has demonstrated to my satisfaction during this last year that she’s not interested in truth, good government, or anything except partisan sniping and twisting. She doesn’t give a damn, she just hates Obama.

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SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Jan 1, 2010 2:42:35pm

re: #147 sattv4u2

NONVIDEOTROVESY

Didn’t see the “cat” video

Don’t intend to see the “cat” video

Even if I did see the “cat” video
wouldn’t up or downding the “cat” video

I’m with ya, brother!

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SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Jan 1, 2010 2:43:02pm

re: #149 iceweasel

No, reine, you are the one not only trying, but actually saying, that you found it in poor taste.

Oddly, not when it was posted. Most likely for the same reason the lone downdinger waited and snuck back to downding it later— because downdinging it at the time, or criticising it as in poor taste at the time, would have seemed petty, vindictive, and begrudging of other people’s happiness.

That’s what I find to be in poor taste. YMMV.

OH GOD, IT’S NEW YEARS! LET’S TALK ABOUT OUR RESOLUTIONS!

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Jimmah Fri, Jan 1, 2010 2:44:06pm

re: #142 reine.de.tout

Heh.
Are you trying to say the video was in excellent taste?

It really wasn’t.
Funny perhaps LOL
But not in good taste.

There’s a world of difference between something that is perhaps a little ‘risque’ and something that is in poor taste.

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iceweasel Fri, Jan 1, 2010 2:44:21pm

re: #143 tradewind

I know. I don’t use it in the regular way, I guess… I do protect my tweets, ( since there are hardly ever any, no biggie), and I don’t use it so much to tweet as to read/scan sites quickly that I otherwise would not have time to keep up with. I just do not get the ’ what are you doing? ’ feature… do I care that Joe Blow had pasta with clam sauce for dinner? Even a famous Joe Blow? Er, nope.

That’s probably why I never thought it would be useful in any way. All these people using it to update us on what they’re having for dinner or what their dog just did. I loathed it when it came out and thought it was completely worthless.
I still think it’s pretty worthless unless you’re a blogger, in the media, politics or following a specific industry topic. These are more like professional uses of it, I guess, rather than personal.

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SteveC Fri, Jan 1, 2010 2:44:43pm

re: #152 SanFranciscoZionist

OH GOD, IT’S NEW YEARS! LET’S TALK ABOUT OUR RESOLUTIONS!

Lose a little weight.

Write my autobiography.

Find a good woman.

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Girth Fri, Jan 1, 2010 2:44:51pm

re: #152 SanFranciscoZionist

OH GOD, IT’S NEW YEARS! LET’S TALK ABOUT OUR RESOLUTIONS!

I’m getting back to my playing weight.

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iceweasel Fri, Jan 1, 2010 2:44:52pm

re: #152 SanFranciscoZionist

OH GOD, IT’S NEW YEARS! LET’S TALK ABOUT OUR RESOLUTIONS!

I have a few. :-)

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sattv4u2 Fri, Jan 1, 2010 2:45:03pm

re: #149 iceweasel

Seems like a strange demarcation line

Find the video funny, upding it, you’re OKAY
Find the video not funny, don’t downding it,, NOT OKAY
Find the video not funny, downding it, ALSO NOT OKAY

Upding something in the NOW ,,, OKAY?
Upding something later,,,,,, OKAY?
Downding something in the now,,,, OKAY?
Downding the same thing later,,, NOT OKAY!?!?!

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tradewind Fri, Jan 1, 2010 2:46:21pm

re: #150 SanFranciscoZionist
Really, I don’t think there’s such a problem with ’ czars’, per se. It’s rather that several of these folks have turned out to be problematic, to the point of having to leave.
Not a czar, but the clock is ticking on Big Sis, I hope.
hey hey ho ho, Napolitano’s gotta go

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Escaped Hillbilly Fri, Jan 1, 2010 2:46:21pm

re: #141 iceweasel
Well, the first czars were appointed in the 1st Bush’s term with drug and education czars (both titles held be the same guy at different time, cause, you know, he did such a great job.) But they proliferated over the next 4 presidential terms. The problem as I see it, and saw it then, is that once someone introduces such a concept, it gains a life of its own. There will be more. You can’t turn back the clock. More’s the pity.

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reine.de.tout Fri, Jan 1, 2010 2:46:34pm

re: #149 iceweasel

No, reine, you are the one not only trying, but actually saying, that you found it in poor taste.

Oddly, not when it was posted. Most likely for the same reason the lone downdinger waited and snuck back to downding it later— because downdinging it at the time, or criticising it as in poor taste at the time, would have seemed petty, vindictive, and begrudging of other people’s happiness.

That’s what I find to be in poor taste. YMMV.

Yes it was in poor taste. Funny, but not at all in any sort of good taste whatsoever.

Why didn’t I say something when it was posted?
I don’t know. Just didn’t. Wasn’t paying that much attention. What … I have to say things when you think it’s appropriate or the topic is forever off the table? What? That makes no sense.

The video was funny, AND in poor taste.

We all suffer from poor taste at times; it is not limited to GOPers in the public arena, or here.

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Jimmah Fri, Jan 1, 2010 2:46:39pm

2009 - A Race Odyssey

This is a cross post by Edmund Standing

For much of 2009, we have been honoured to have regular contributions in the Harry’s Place comments section from BNP Legal Director comedian Lee John Barnes. So, for all his numerous fans, I bring you the best of Lee Barnes, 2009:

January:

LJB brings us his first poetic masterpiece of the year, in which he writes of ‘the resistance’ and their struggle against the ‘Zionist entity’. An anonymous commenter, sadly lacking the depth of understanding necessary to appreciate the genius of LJB, states: ‘I’m surprsied [sic] and saddened to read this poem Lee’. For shame!

LJB confirms that he does indeed visit the neo-Nazi Stormfront forum.

‘NASA shits bricks over Gary McKinnon Case’, writes LJB, returning to a favourite topic of his: the truth about the UFO cover-up!

February:

LJB explains the significance of the Wicker Man and how ‘its image is firmly rooted in the collective unconscious of our folk’:

The lulz at the expense of BNP buffoon John Lee Barnes continues…

[Link: www.hurryupharry.org…]

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sattv4u2 Fri, Jan 1, 2010 2:46:58pm

re: #156 Girth

I’m getting back to my playing weight.

Me too ((I used to play SUMO Wrestling!!)
//

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SteveC Fri, Jan 1, 2010 2:47:13pm

re: #158 sattv4u2

Seems like a strange demarcation line

Find the video funny, upding it, you’re OKAY
Find the video not funny, don’t downding it,, NOT OKAY
Find the video not funny, downding it, ALSO NOT OKAY

Where does “Avoids all videos because internet connection still uses dial-up.” fit?

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SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Jan 1, 2010 2:48:03pm

re: #154 iceweasel

That’s probably why I never thought it would be useful in any way. All these people using it to update us on what they’re having for dinner or what their dog just did. I loathed it when it came out and thought it was completely worthless.
I still think it’s pretty worthless unless you’re a blogger, in the media, politics or following a specific industry topic. These are more like professional uses of it, I guess, rather than personal.

The Iranian protestors seemed to find good use for it. Everything else just seems pointless. Then again, I can barely stand Facebook, which I am now on. I joined because it was the only way to stay in touch with a number of friends, but it really does not interest me.

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SixDegrees Fri, Jan 1, 2010 2:48:23pm

So, the wife bought me the Les Halles Cookbook by Anthony Bourdain for Christmas, and I am enjoying the hell out of it. I doubt that I’ll ever make many of the recipes - they’re developed from the perspective of a professional chef, someone who spends three days making a veal demi-glace for use as a sauce, but they’re enjoyable reading sheerly for their value as food porn. My favorite so far is Tournedos Rossini, which consists of filet mignon, sauteed in butter and served with a thick slice of foie gras, also sauteed in butter, with the aforementioned veal demi-glace and Madeira mixed, reduced by half with truffles and poured over all.

I need a bypass just thinking about it.

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sattv4u2 Fri, Jan 1, 2010 2:48:45pm

re: #164 SteveC

Where does “Avoids all videos because internet connection still uses dial-up.” fit?

you DO know it’s 2010, not 1980, right !?!?!?!?!

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tradewind Fri, Jan 1, 2010 2:48:50pm

re: #154 iceweasel
I used to feel that way too, and then during … I think it was the Iran protests, I figured out that if I followed certain twitter accounts associated with sites I had some interest in but no time to read extensively, I could get the gist of their opinion/news in a concise and quick way.

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SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Jan 1, 2010 2:48:58pm

re: #155 SteveC

Lose a little weight.

Write my autobiography.

Find a good woman.

Those sound good.

I’m going to try to lose a little weight, or at least muscle up a little, sell my novel, and keep the house tidier.

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iceweasel Fri, Jan 1, 2010 2:49:16pm

re: #150 SanFranciscoZionist

re: #146 tradewind

That Steve Benen article I linked over at American prospect about the Bush czars does a good job IMO of pointing out potential issues with the czar system. But no one on the right wants to talk about the real potential problems, because they all involve waiting— waiting to see if adding this extra administrative layer turns out to increase efficiency or decrease it.

But that’s something that requires waiting and then genuine reasoned analysis, and gets in the way of the ‘just add water’ BLARG OBAMA HATE OBAMA MY GAWD ITS FULL OF CZARS instant freakout recipe.

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Jimmah Fri, Jan 1, 2010 2:50:19pm

re: #158 sattv4u2

Seems like a strange demarcation line

Find the video funny, upding it, you’re OKAY
Find the video not funny, don’t downding it,, NOT OKAY
Find the video not funny, downding it, ALSO NOT OKAY

Upding something in the NOW ,,, OKAY?
Upding something later,,, OKAY?
Downding something in the now,,, OKAY?
Downding the same thing later,,, NOT OKAY!?!?!

My god, you’re boring.

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reine.de.tout Fri, Jan 1, 2010 2:51:00pm

re: #152 SanFranciscoZionist

OH GOD, IT’S NEW YEARS! LET’S TALK ABOUT OUR RESOLUTIONS!

Well, OK.

I make a resolution:
Iceweasel and Jimmah “win” all “arguments” or discussions with me.
I lose.

What exactly anyone wins or loses is sort of beyond me, but it the win/loss thing seems to be an issue.

I found the video funny, but tasteless.

I’m moving to the next thread.

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iceweasel Fri, Jan 1, 2010 2:51:17pm

re: #158 sattv4u2

Seems like a strange demarcation line

What I find strange is your apparent inability to figure out that I won’t be answering you until you have something intelligent to contribute, preferably on politics rather than your own little attempts to stir shit.

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SteveC Fri, Jan 1, 2010 2:51:48pm

re: #166 SixDegrees

So, the wife bought me the Les Halles Cookbook by Anthony Bourdain for Christmas, and I am enjoying the hell out of it.

My mom *loves* church cookbooks. I just find one on eBay that looks interesting, usually pay less than $5 for it (with S/H!), retain the GOOD SON title for a bit longer…. AND usually enjoy the fruits of her labor!

/Got this figured out!

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tradewind Fri, Jan 1, 2010 2:52:06pm

re: #166 SixDegrees
Open question for any foodies here: I just used one teensy little dried pepper from an unknown origin plant from my garden that is so freaking hot it only took a half of one to infuse much heat into an entire huge pot of blackeyed peas, and I don’t know what it is. Not a habanero, not a scotch bonnet, not a tabasco… it is little bitty and red, and if you try to eat one with the seeds, really, you can’t. And I love hot hot. Any ideas? I have a ginormous amount of them and would love to know what to call ‘em.

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Jimmah Fri, Jan 1, 2010 2:54:00pm

re: #161 reine.de.tout

Yes it was in poor taste. Funny, but not at all in any sort of good taste whatsoever.

Why didn’t I say something when it was posted?
I don’t know. Just didn’t. Wasn’t paying that much attention. What … I have to say things when you think it’s appropriate or the topic is forever off the table? What? That makes no sense.

The video was funny, AND in poor taste.

We all suffer from poor taste at times; it is not limited to GOPers in the public arena, or here.

No not in poor taste - just a little risque. We’re adults here, right? You were trying to draw an equivalence between our wedding video and an instance of sectarian bigotry. Stop digging please.

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sattv4u2 Fri, Jan 1, 2010 2:55:33pm

re: #173 iceweasel

What I find strange is your apparent inability to figure out that I won’t be answering you until you have something intelligent to contribute, preferably on politics rather than your own little attempts to stir shit.

Sucks when you’re own “rules” aren’t adhered to by ,, welll YOU!!

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SteveC Fri, Jan 1, 2010 2:56:18pm

re: #167 sattv4u2

you DO know it’s 2010, not 1980, right !?!?!?!?!

Tell it to the Internet Provider! I live in a very rural area and we are at the bottom of the improvements list, it seems.

My laptop takes 30 min to download a vid from youtube, but when I travel, it takes seconds!!!!

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sattv4u2 Fri, Jan 1, 2010 2:56:33pm

re: #171 Jimmah

My god, you’re boring.

Thanks. Not all of us can be,,, risque!!!

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Girth Fri, Jan 1, 2010 2:57:06pm

re: #156 Girth

I’m getting back to my playing weight.

re: #163 sattv4u2

Me too ((I used to play SUMO Wrestling!!)
//

My playing weight was 245. There’s more than a little truth to the username.

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SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Jan 1, 2010 2:57:27pm

re: #175 tradewind

Open question for any foodies here: I just used one teensy little dried pepper from an unknown origin plant from my garden that is so freaking hot it only took a half of one to infuse much heat into an entire huge pot of blackeyed peas, and I don’t know what it is. Not a habanero, not a scotch bonnet, not a tabasco… it is little bitty and red, and if you try to eat one with the seeds, really, you can’t. And I love hot hot. Any ideas? I have a ginormous amount of them and would love to know what to call ‘em.

I don’t know. There are some online ‘visual guides’ to peppers. Could it be a Thai chile pepper? Or cayenne?

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sattv4u2 Fri, Jan 1, 2010 2:58:02pm

re: #180 Girth

My playing weight was 245. There’s more than a little truth to the username.

Hahahaha!

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SixDegrees Fri, Jan 1, 2010 2:59:45pm

re: #175 tradewind

Open question for any foodies here: I just used one teensy little dried pepper from an unknown origin plant from my garden that is so freaking hot it only took a half of one to infuse much heat into an entire huge pot of blackeyed peas, and I don’t know what it is. Not a habanero, not a scotch bonnet, not a tabasco… it is little bitty and red, and if you try to eat one with the seeds, really, you can’t. And I love hot hot. Any ideas? I have a ginormous amount of them and would love to know what to call ‘em.

Maybe one of these?

Very hard to say, really. Peppers are extremely variable, both in appearance and heat. As a rough rule, small == hot. Could also be a Thai pepper, maybe.

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sattv4u2 Fri, Jan 1, 2010 3:00:30pm

re: #175 tradewind

[Link: www.hotpepperseeds.com…]

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Jimmah Fri, Jan 1, 2010 3:02:26pm

Well much as I’d like to…

Youtube Video

I guess it really is bedtime for me, finally. Night all!

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sattv4u2 Fri, Jan 1, 2010 3:02:28pm

re: #175 tradewind

re: #183 SixDegrees

Wish I had the video handy (I’m at work and it’s at home on the DVR) but that guy from the Food Network, Adam (!!?last name) on Man Versus Food did a show I taped about the different peppers as he was doing a hot wing challenge

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tradewind Fri, Jan 1, 2010 3:09:28pm

re: #183 SixDegrees

re: #184 sattv4u2
Thanks both of you…. not round, looks more like the shape of a thai pepper but really… much hotter. I’ll look more in that site.

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tradewind Fri, Jan 1, 2010 3:12:56pm

re: #184 sattv4u2
Update: Wow! Just goes to show you a lizard can get you any answer…
It’s a zimbabwe bird pepper… spot on. I would never ever have figured it out, thanks!!

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sattv4u2 Fri, Jan 1, 2010 3:15:02pm

re: #188 tradewind

Update: Wow! Just goes to show you a lizard can get you any answer…
It’s a zimbabwe bird pepper… spot on. I would never ever have figured it out, thanks!!

NOT TO SELF ,,,
NEVER order Zimbabwe Bird !!!

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Sinistershade Fri, Jan 1, 2010 3:15:21pm

re: #141 iceweasel

Um, the real story is that the proliferation of czars began under Bush, not this administration.

I don’t now whether there is any value at this point to mentioning that the idea of “czars” (presidential aides with primary responsibility for a particular policy area) goes back much further than even the GW Bush administration. I particularly remember the “energy czars” of the ’70s, though, as you point out, the idea really took off in the ’00s.

I wonder whether the issue would have been much less useful for demagoguery had the term “czar,” with its Russian (albeit not Soviet) connotations, not been the word involved.

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abolitionist Fri, Jan 1, 2010 3:20:19pm

OT: re: #175 tradewind

Try [Link: www.dogpile.com…]
Select the images tab
and type in pepper
Might recognize yours among the pics.

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Eclectic Infidel Fri, Jan 1, 2010 3:20:52pm

re: #155 SteveC

Lose a little weight.

Write my autobiography.

Find a good woman.

My list is similar, except I want to do volunteer work rather than than write an autobiography.

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Girth Fri, Jan 1, 2010 3:23:39pm

re: #190 Sinistershade

I don’t now whether there is any value at this point to mentioning that the idea of “czars” (presidential aides with primary responsibility for a particular policy area) goes back much further than even the GW Bush administration. I particularly remember the “energy czars” of the ’70s, though, as you point out, the idea really took off in the ’00s.

I wonder whether the issue would have been much less useful for demagoguery had the term “czar,” with its Russian (albeit not Soviet) connotations, not been the word involved.

I saw Glenn Beck draw that ‘czar’ to Soviet Russia link once. Total facepalm.

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Sinistershade Fri, Jan 1, 2010 3:32:18pm

re: #193 Girth

Doonesbury did some particularly great satire with the energy czar in the ’70s … people jockeying to get an audience with him and kissing his ring and so on. I don’t recall any concern over nefarious plots to enslave the American people, though./

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iceweasel Fri, Jan 1, 2010 4:04:11pm

re: #190 Sinistershade

I don’t now whether there is any value at this point to mentioning that the idea of “czars” (presidential aides with primary responsibility for a particular policy area) goes back much further than even the GW Bush administration. I particularly remember the “energy czars” of the ’70s, though, as you point out, the idea really took off in the ’00s.

I wonder whether the issue would have been much less useful for demagoguery had the term “czar,” with its Russian (albeit not Soviet) connotations, not been the word involved.

Absolutely, excellent points. I’ve gotten burned out on the czar issue after posting the history of it several times over the summer— now I just cut to the chase, relink that Benen article and point out that under Bush we saw a massive expansion of czars— 1 or 2 more than Obama has IIRC — including a ‘domestic policy czar’ a Katrina czar, and a birdflu czar. None of the usual wingnut suspects (Malkin, Rush) complained then, naturally.

And I bet you’re correct about the term being useful to the demogogues because of its vague Russian connotations. It isn’t coincidental that most of the people promoting the czar mythology insist that all these people aren’t subject to confirmation, when a quick review of the facts would show them otherwise. The facts would get in their way of insisting that Holdren the science czar wants to sterilize us through the drinking water, etc.

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William Barnett-Lewis Fri, Jan 1, 2010 6:24:48pm

re: #161 reine.de.tout

We all suffer from poor taste at times; it is not limited to GOPers in the public arena, or here.

Updinged for this. We’d all do well to remember this. I know I need to…

William

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