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1 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 11:37:27pm

What fresh hell thread is this?

2 windsagio  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 11:41:14pm

You guys done with the gunny talk yet? ;)

3 jordash1212  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 11:43:03pm

Now reading: Capital vol. 1, Karl Marx

4 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 11:51:22pm

re: #2 windsagio

Nope

5 Mr. Crankypants  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 12:19:41am

Anybody aside from me awake at this time of night...insomnia sucks!

6 Fenway_Nation  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 12:21:21am

re: #5 PT Barnum

Anybody aside from me awake at this time of night...insomnia sucks!

I'm awake now that you're bitching about your insomnia, dammit!

7 jordash1212  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 12:21:24am

re: #5 PT Barnum

It's only 00:21!

8 Mr. Crankypants  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 12:35:52am

re: #7 jordash1212

It's 2:30 am where I am..

9 Cato the Elder  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 12:42:17am

re: #8 PT Barnum

It's 2:30 am where I am..

Central Time, eh?

10 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 12:51:14am

Shhh, I hunting wabbit.

11 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 12:52:46am

I got 3 hours of sleep last night. Best 3 hours all week.

12 freetoken  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 12:55:30am
13 freetoken  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 12:56:03am

re: #10 Cannadian Club Akbar

Shhh, I hunting wabbit.

14 Fenway_Nation  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 12:58:08am

re: #11 Cannadian Club Akbar

I was in a celebratory mood for some reason last night.

15 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 1:00:57am

re: #14 Fenway_Nation

I was in a celebratory mood for some reason last night.

I was gonna make it an early night. Finished my day about 10, little snack and bed. Did one last check on the computer and saw the thread about the guy with the grenade launcher. Could barely eat, didn't make it to bed until 11:30.

16 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 1:01:53am

re: #12 freetoken

[Video]

Very cool, thanks.

17 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 1:09:43am

Just keep on spending...
[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

18 Fenway_Nation  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 1:11:07am

re: #17 Cannadian Club Akbar

Apparently 'draining the swamp' was alot more expensive than Pelosi anticipated.

19 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 1:15:46am

re: #18 Fenway_Nation

Apparently 'draining the swamp' was alot more expensive than Pelosi anticipated.

And I'm happy I get to pick up 2 checks from my last job later today. Difference is I have to make it last until I get another job.

20 SixDegrees  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 1:29:52am

re: #17 Cannadian Club Akbar

Just keep on spending...
[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

Ow. That's gonna hurt in the morning.

On the plus side, it provides the Dems with a handy excuse for jettisoning the current health care bill - they simply can't afford it. Look for them to blame the GOP for the deficit (I know, it's BS, but this is politics) and put forward a much smaller, more bi-partisan-friendly bill with limited scope, like insurance reform.

Meanwhile: rock, meet hard place. Consensus seems to be growing that Brown's victory was a backlash against Democrat incompetence, including massive overspending, so increasing the debt limit by such a dramatic amount is not going to be popular. But doing nothing, and going into default, would be much worse, and would plunge the world economy into chaos.

Should be an interesting couple of weeks.

21 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 1:35:57am

re: #20 SixDegrees

Makes me wonder if Brown will be vocal about the overspending to give himself a quick "gold star", striking while the iron is hot.

22 freetoken  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 1:39:03am
23 SixDegrees  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 1:39:23am

re: #21 Cannadian Club Akbar

Makes me wonder if Brown will be vocal about the overspending to give himself a quick "gold star", striking while the iron is hot.

No idea.

He certainly has made the left all pissy and irritable, though, without having done or said anything yet.

24 freetoken  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 1:41:27am

re: #23 SixDegrees

He certainly has made the left all pissy and irritable, though, without having done or said anything yet.

Don't know who you are including in "the left", but Brown certainly has said several things to make certain people uncomfortable. For instance, his comment about marriage.

25 TheMatrix31  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 1:43:49am

re: #24 freetoken

If that's all people are focusing on when there are MUCH more pressing issues like our financial future and present well-being, as well as a bunch of pieces of shit hell-bent on destroying us and our allies......then they're nuts.

26 SixDegrees  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 1:44:59am

re: #24 freetoken

Don't know who you are including in "the left", but Brown certainly has said several things to make certain people uncomfortable. For instance, his comment about marriage.

Odd, however, that no one has addressed that, or anything else said during the campaign.

And I was referring to his pronouncements following Coakley's concession.

27 SixDegrees  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 1:48:38am

re: #25 TheMatrix31

If that's all people are focusing on when there are MUCH more pressing issues like our financial future and present well-being, as well as a bunch of pieces of shit hell-bent on destroying us and our allies...then they're nuts.

I tend to agree. Brown comes nowhere even close to being my ideal candidate for anything. But often, voters are presented with a choice between two lousy candidates, and the decision isn't so much who they should vote for as who they should vote against. If I were a Massacussetts voter, Brown would definitely have been the lesser of the two not altogether pleasant choices.

Meanwhile, I'm loving the spin. Too bad we can't hook it up to a dynamo.

28 TheMatrix31  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 1:49:24am

re: #27 SixDegrees

As I said last night...."the spin is rooming".

29 SixDegrees  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 1:50:47am

re: #28 TheMatrix31

As I said last night..."the spin is rooming".

If my room is spinning clockwise and yours is spinning counterclockwise, will we both be sober if someone puts us in the same room?

30 Fenway_Nation  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 1:54:15am

re: #27 SixDegrees


Meanwhile, I'm loving the spin.

From the White House press room or from Teddy's grave?

31 TheMatrix31  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 1:54:50am

re: #29 SixDegrees

Sober?

32 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 1:56:10am

re: #31 TheMatrix31

I love Tool.

33 SixDegrees  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 1:56:14am

re: #30 Fenway_Nation

From the White House press room or from Teddy's grave?

It's all good.

34 TheMatrix31  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 1:58:34am

re: #32 Cannadian Club Akbar

For sure, bro.

35 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 2:01:34am

re: #34 TheMatrix31

Hey, is the rain bad where you are?

36 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 2:03:41am

Wanna party this weekend?
[Link: www.gasparillapiratefest.com...]

37 TheMatrix31  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 2:09:03am

re: #35 Cannadian Club Akbar

I think these storms have been overrated man, but thanks for asking. The rains come in like, 5 hour bursts and then they're done. Tomorrow's (later today?) storm should pack a bigger, longer punch. Or so they say.

Living up against a hillside, its always a worry. We had a mini-slide a few years ago.

38 steve  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 2:09:33am

re: #5 PT Barnum

Anybody aside from me awake at this time of night...insomnia sucks!

I am always awake at this time of the night! Sleeping is for sissies!

39 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 2:24:04am

Heard this guy the other morning. Interesting. Cancer researcher.
[Link: www.veselymd.com...]

40 srb1976  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 2:25:11am

Morning everyone!

41 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 2:28:55am

re: #40 srb1976

Morning everyone!

I'll say it. Morning!

42 Fenway_Nation  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 2:30:38am

re: #37 TheMatrix31
Way to tempt the weather gods, Matrix!

re: #40 srb1976
Morning!

43 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 2:33:12am

re: #42 Fenway_Nation

Are you saying Matrix will be blogging from a floating log tomorrow?
/

44 Fenway_Nation  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 2:34:20am

re: #43 Cannadian Club Akbar

Driftwood blogging?

45 TheMatrix31  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 2:35:54am

re: #43 Cannadian Club Akbar

If I am, then I won't be able to make it to the Sabres/Kings game :-/

46 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 2:37:09am

re: #45 TheMatrix31

If I am, then I won't be able to make it to the Sabres/Kings game :-/

You can listen to it on a coconut radio, ala Gilligan's Island.

47 srb1976  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 2:38:16am

re: #45 TheMatrix31

If I am, then I won't be able to make it to the Sabres/Kings game :-/

Good luck on not floating away!
We are not getting storms here, just steady rain....makes work much more interesting = )
(wet steel scrap in the furnace.....just the wake up call everyone needs) = )

48 TheMatrix31  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 2:38:29am

Of course, if I have Ginger or Mary-Ann....who cares about the game?

49 TheMatrix31  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 2:39:14am

re: #47 srb1976

People keep talking about lightning and thunder, but I haven't seen a flash yet! Just heard maybe two rumbles on Monday.

50 Steve  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 2:41:18am

re: #49 TheMatrix31

re: #47 srb1976

People keep talking about lightning and thunder, but I haven't seen a
flash yet! Just heard maybe two rumbles on Monday.

I have not seen a good lightning storm in years. The last on was in Colorado Springs in the early ninties. I totally enjoyed it.

51 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 2:41:39am

We're getting a Lego Land here in Florida. Make your plans now!!!

52 srb1976  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 2:44:43am

re: #51 Cannadian Club Akbar

We're getting a Lego Land here in Florida. Make your plans now!!!

That would be fun! Her Royal Stoutness is still a bit young, but the Little Man would love it! He's a big Lego fan anyway

53 TheMatrix31  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 2:44:52am

re: #50 Steve

The lightning storms get the chicks hot and bothered, so it's nice!

54 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 2:45:45am

re: #50 Steve

Years ago Tampa was the lightning capitol of the world. I think it is Brazil now.

55 Steve  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 2:47:47am

re: #53 TheMatrix31

re: #50 Steve

The lightning storms get the chicks hot and bothered, so it's nice!


Wouldn't know about that, or cannot remember. Been married 24 years.

56 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 2:49:33am

re: #55 Steve

Wouldn't know about that, or cannot remember. Been married 24 years.

Matrix isn't even 24 years old. Heh.

57 TheMatrix31  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 2:50:07am

re: #56 Cannadian Club Akbar

Way to put it in perspective for the guy, LOL.

58 Steve  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 2:50:34am

re: #56 Cannadian Club Akbar

re: #55 Steve

I hope he is not another mouth to feed;-)


Matrix isn't even 24 years old. Heh.

59 Steve  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 2:52:06am

Screwed that post up didn't I.

I have to leave for a bit. got to go check the equipment in my area and make sure that nothing is burning to the ground. Be back.

60 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 2:52:20am

re: #58 Steve

He's cheap to feed. Just throw him some hummus.

61 andres  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 2:53:58am

Two interesting links from yesterday:

Teacher With Bible Divides Ohio Town

Mr. Freshwater, an eighth-grade public school science teacher, is accused of burning a cross onto the arms of at least two students and teaching creationism, charges he says have been fabricated because he refused an order by his principal to remove a Bible from his desk.

Taxing Wall Street Down to Size

62 TheMatrix31  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 2:54:51am

re: #60 Cannadian Club Akbar

Cheers to THAT!

63 srb1976  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 2:59:14am

re: #60 Cannadian Club Akbar

He's cheap to feed. Just throw him some hummus.

ooh and some pita chips = )

64 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 3:00:18am

re: #62 TheMatrix31

Cheers to THAT!

re: #63 srb1976

ooh and some pita chips = )

Flour torts and refried beans.

65 TheMatrix31  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 3:04:47am

re: #64 Cannadian Club Akbar

I'll take that too. This diet sucks.

66 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 3:05:52am

re: #65 TheMatrix31

I'll take that too. This diet sucks.

Is this diet you speak of come from your trip to the doctor?

67 TheMatrix31  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 3:07:29am

re: #66 Cannadian Club Akbar

Eh...kinda. Doc said I need to start watching out a bit, blood sugar and stuff. Mostly, I'm starting it because I switch from medium to large undershirts. I figured enough is enough!

68 Darth Vader Gargoyle  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 3:10:09am

Morning Lizards. Lots of anger and angst in the previous threads, I had to go to bed instead.

Just wanted to stop in and say Hi.

Life intrudes, BBL

69 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 3:10:17am

re: #67 TheMatrix31

You can actually make tasty foods that are low in fat. Just experiment with spices and fresh veggies (jalapenos, cilantro, tomatos, etc)

70 Fenway_Nation  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 3:11:57am

re: #68 rwdflynavy

Hi and bye, rwdflynavy!

71 TheMatrix31  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 3:12:31am

re: #69 Cannadian Club Akbar

It's these late night cravings that are the problem :-/

Anyways, I'm going to head out. I might hit you up for some recipes later, CCA.

GN, dudes!

72 srb1976  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 3:14:33am

My little town just got a Target store a few months ago.... I am learning to love their "Archer Farms" brand....mmmmm.....single origin coffee, yum!
(starting second cup)

73 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 3:17:02am

re: #72 srb1976

See if you can hunt down Tim Horton's coffee (won't be at Target). It's liquid crack.:)

74 srb1976  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 3:18:16am

re: #73 Cannadian Club Akbar

See if you can hunt down Tim Horton's coffee (won't be at Target). It's liquid crack.:)

I will have to see if I can...liquid crack? sounds great!

75 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 3:19:43am

re: #74 srb1976

It's a northern thing, mainly Canada. People up there stand in 3 feet of snow to get it. Not kidding.

76 MandyManners  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 3:23:31am

Brown is rumoured to be planning to auction his truck and donate the proceeds to Haiti.

77 srb1976  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 3:23:35am

re: #75 Cannadian Club Akbar

It's a northern thing, mainly Canada. People up there stand in 3 feet of snow to get it. Not kidding.

Wow...I guess we are too far south.....their website just tells me that there is nothing within 50 miles =)
And while people will line up at our local donut shop, no one goes to Krispy Kreme for the coffee = )
(I think Krispy Kreme donuts are made of crack though)

78 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 3:25:22am

re: #76 MandyManners

Good for him. Also, check out #20 and #21.

79 MandyManners  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 3:30:59am

re: #78 Cannadian Club Akbar

Good for him. Also, check out #20 and #21.

As you noted, this would be a wonderful opportunity for Brown to take up the cause of FisCon. He wasn't elected for social conservative issues.

80 MandyManners  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 3:31:25am

BTW, I read here yesterday that he got 70 per cent of the Independent vote. True?

81 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 3:33:45am

re: #80 MandyManners

BTW, I read here yesterday that he got 70 per cent of the Independent vote. True?

Not sure but look at this...
[Link: online.wsj.com...]

82 srb1976  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 3:33:56am

Well, back to the salt mines for me = )
had forgotten how long a 12 hour day was!
Later all!

83 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 3:35:04am

re: #82 srb1976

Well, back to the salt mines for me = )
had forgotten how long a 12 hour day was!
Later all!

It's only 5 hours if you have ever seen Office Space.:)

84 steve  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 3:37:21am

re: #60 Cannadian Club Akbar

He's cheap to feed. Just throw him some hummus.

He is out of luck. Already feeding 3. 20, 17 and 9. Plus the wife, the dog and me. Table scraps are out too.

85 MandyManners  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 3:37:37am

re: #81 Cannadian Club Akbar

Not sure but look at this...
[Link: online.wsj.com...]

I hope the GOP is paying attention to what's winning.

86 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 3:39:15am

re: #84 steve

If the kids are boys, we'll hold a fundraiser for ya!!
//

87 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 3:40:15am

re: #85 MandyManners

I hope the GOP is paying attention to what's winning.

Me thinks yes. They better not take November for granted, though.

88 MandyManners  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 3:41:31am

re: #87 Cannadian Club Akbar

Me thinks yes. They better not take November for granted, though.

I'm hoping it'll be fresh in their minds.

89 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 3:42:52am

re: #88 MandyManners

I'm hoping it'll be fresh in their minds.

It can be if we hound Steele. But I think they will look at the Brown campaign as a templete.

90 MandyManners  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 3:51:09am

re: #89 Cannadian Club Akbar

It can be if we hound Steele. But I think they will look at the Brown campaign as a templete.

They will if they have a lick of common sense.

91 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 3:55:00am

re: #90 MandyManners

They will if they have a lick of common sense.

There is an ad on the top of Drudge for the person running against Barney Frank. Good start there.

92 MandyManners  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 3:59:52am

re: #91 Cannadian Club Akbar

There is an ad on the top of Drudge for the person running against Barney Frank. Good start there.

That'd be a wonderful defeat.

93 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 4:02:02am

re: #92 MandyManners

That'd be a wonderful defeat.

Would also get him off the Housing Committee or whatever it's called.

94 bloodnok  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 4:05:19am

re: #91 Cannadian Club Akbar

There is an ad on the top of Drudge for the person running against Barney Frank. Good start there.

I can but hope, though that district was carved up to perfection ensuring a Democrat will always hold it (gerrymandered if you will -hey, both sides do it). His district contains Brookline, Fall River and New Bedford which ALWAYS go Democrat. Sadly, I think Frank will be safe.

95 MandyManners  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 4:06:41am

re: #93 Cannadian Club Akbar

Would also get him off the Housing Committee or whatever it's called.

The Committee on How to Extort Banks into Making Loans to People who Cannot Afford to Repay Them?

96 MandyManners  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 4:08:30am

re: #94 bloodnok

I can but hope, though that district was carved up to perfection ensuring a Democrat will always hold it (gerrymandered if you will -hey, both sides do it). His district contains Brookline, Fall River and New Bedford which ALWAYS go Democrat. Sadly, I think Frank will be safe.

Wasn't that true of Massachusetts before Tuesday?

97 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 4:08:57am

re: #94 bloodnok

I just saw the ad, don't know the situation. Thanks for the info. But whoever is running the ad sure is empowered.

98 MandyManners  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 4:10:06am

"We were so busy getting stuff done that we didn't speak to the American people about what their core values were."

Hey, BHO? How many speeches/pressers did you have this past year?

99 MandyManners  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 4:11:17am

re: #98 MandyManners

"We were so busy getting stuff done that we didn't speak to the American people about what their core values were."

Hey, BHO? How many speeches/pressers did you have this past year?

"We were so busy shoving our agenda down the American people's throats that we didn't tell them often enough what OUR values were."

100 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 4:11:25am

re: #98 MandyManners

"We were so busy getting stuff done that we didn't speak to the American people about what their core values were."

Hey, BHO? How many speeches/pressers did you have this past year?

[Link: www.cbsnews.com...]

101 bloodnok  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 4:13:31am

re: #96 MandyManners

Wasn't that true of Massachusetts before Tuesday?

On the map New Bedford and Fall River are the major population centers in his district and they are the spots of blue in a sea of red. Senate races take that out of the equation as the rest of the state has a say.

102 Taqyia2Me  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 4:14:09am

re: #98 MandyManners

"We were so busy getting stuff done that we didn't speak to the American people about what their core values were."

Hey, BHO? How many speeches/pressers did you have this past year?

Being a libdem means never having to admit reality exists.

103 RogueOne  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 4:21:21am

Morning folks. I was hoping Hoosier would be here. We're in the middle of a little ice storm just north of him, I wonder what it's like in Indy.

104 MandyManners  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 4:22:23am

re: #100 Cannadian Club Akbar

[Link: www.cbsnews.com...]

How much more would he have had to talk in order to get what he wanted? (Hint: none 'cause the more he talks, the more people figure out his game.)

105 MandyManners  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 4:22:55am

re: #101 bloodnok

On the map New Bedford and Fall River are the major population centers in his district and they are the spots of blue in a sea of red. Senate races take that out of the equation as the rest of the state has a say.

The Independents have no power?

106 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 4:23:27am

re: #103 RogueOne

Morning folks. I was hoping Hoosier would be here. We're in the middle of a little ice storm just north of him, I wonder what it's like in Indy.

My brother is in Indy right now, but he hasn't called.

107 MandyManners  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 4:23:35am

re: #102 Taqyia2Me

Being a libdem means never having to admit reality exists.

And, you can shriek "LOOK! A SQUIRREL! EIGHT YEARS".

108 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 4:24:06am

re: #104 MandyManners

How much more would he have had to talk in order to get what he wanted? (Hint: none 'cause the more he talks, the more people figure out his game.)

Let me be clear....

109 MandyManners  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 4:25:08am

re: #108 Cannadian Club Akbar

Let me be clear...

I've found that those who have to remind you that they're acting above-board are usually doing the opposite.

110 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 4:25:31am

"Obama backs insurance regulation".

That is the heading of an ad on Yahoo.

This Obama advertising angle really has me scratching my head.

111 MandyManners  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 4:26:11am

re: #103 RogueOne

Morning folks. I was hoping Hoosier would be here. We're in the middle of a little ice storm just north of him, I wonder what it's like in Indy.

Cold?

112 MandyManners  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 4:26:51am

re: #110 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

"Obama backs insurance regulation".

That is the heading of an ad on Yahoo.

This Obama advertising angle really has me scratching my head.

It's all over the Internet and television. I don't recall a president ever being this omnipresent.

113 RogueOne  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 4:27:02am

re: #106 Cannadian Club Akbar

My brother is in Indy right now, but he hasn't called.

It's supposed to be fairly good in Indy, the ice line is just north of there which is where I live.

114 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 4:27:12am

re: #110 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

SixDegrees and I were talking earlier on that very subject. Right around #20ish.

115 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 4:28:30am

re: #113 RogueOne

It's supposed to be fairly good in Indy, the ice line is just north of there which is where I live.

I guess it was starting to rain there yesterday. Not sure about the temp.

116 RogueOne  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 4:28:32am

re: #111 MandyManners

Cold?

right at 30. We usually get one or two decent ice storms a year. This one's minor really, it'll be fine once the temp rises in a couple hours.

117 MandyManners  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 4:28:55am

Edwards will admit he's the baby-daddy today.

118 MandyManners  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 4:30:13am

re: #116 RogueOne

right at 30. We usually get one or two decent ice storms a year. This one's minor really, it'll be fine once the temp rises in a couple hours.

We had those growing up in Tennessee. They could be utter nightmares, especiall for trees.

119 reine.de.tout  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 4:30:45am

re: #117 MandyManners

Edwards will admit he's the baby-daddy today.

Politician will admit what everybody else already knows?

120 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 4:31:04am

re: #118 MandyManners

We had those growing up in Tennessee. They could be utter nightmares, especiall for trees.

Good thing you're not a tree.
/

121 RogueOne  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 4:31:58am

re: #118 MandyManners

We had those growing up in Tennessee. They could be utter nightmares, especiall for trees.

We usually get one really good one a year where there's a inch of ice on everything. If it weren't for the havoc it plays on power lines I'd rather have the ice than the snow. Ice is prettier and I'm all about pretty stuff.//

122 MandyManners  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 4:32:53am

re: #119 reine.de.tout

Politician will admit what everybody else already knows?

Captain Obvious!

123 MandyManners  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 4:33:11am

re: #120 Cannadian Club Akbar

Good thing you're not a tree.
/

I'd be a willow.

124 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 4:33:54am

re: #122 MandyManners

Captain Obvious!

I bet there is extra southern accent at the presser. Any takers?

125 MandyManners  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 4:34:00am

re: #121 RogueOne

We usually get one really good one a year where there's a inch of ice on everything. If it weren't for the havoc it plays on power lines I'd rather have the ice than the snow. Ice is prettier and I'm all about pretty stuff.//

I never see power lines and the like In Colorado.

126 MandyManners  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 4:34:34am

re: #124 Cannadian Club Akbar

I bet there is extra southern accent at the presser. Any takers?

The Appalachian Trail Hiker apologized AGAIN yesterday.

127 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 4:35:58am

I'm sure Tim Kaine did a lot more for/to Virginia as Governor; but the only thing I know of that he did has been reversed by Governor McDonnell.

Governor McDonnell (who was inaugurated on the 16th and I didn't even know it) has re-opened the rest areas!

I can pee again!

128 MandyManners  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 4:36:06am

John Edwards said about his daughter "hopefully one day when she understands she will forgive me".

Guess what, asshole? It's not about her forgiving you!!! He's trying to weasel out of his responsibility years ahead of time.

129 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 4:36:20am

re: #126 MandyManners

The Appalachian Trail Hiker apologized AGAIN yesterday.

Did he bounce a child support check?

130 MandyManners  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 4:36:41am

re: #127 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I'm sure Tim Kaine did a lot more for/to Virginia as Governor; but the only thing I know of that he did has been reversed by Governor McDonnell.

Governor McDonnell (who was inaugurated on the 16th and I didn't even know it) has re-opened the rest areas!

I can pee again!

Good to hear.

131 RogueOne  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 4:36:45am

re: #127 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Why were they closed? lack of funds?

132 bloodnok  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 4:36:51am

re: #105 MandyManners

The Independents have no power?

Yeah, who knows what could happen? I hate to be a pessimist about this one because I (like many others) would like to see Frank lose that seat.

133 MandyManners  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 4:37:11am

re: #129 Cannadian Club Akbar

Did he bounce a child support check?

I doubt his STBX would be forgiving of that. Fucking weasel.

134 MandyManners  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 4:37:38am

re: #132 bloodnok

Yeah, who knows what could happen? I hate to be a pessimist about this one because I (like many others) would like to see Frank lose that seat.

What are the chances?

135 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 4:38:35am

re: #127 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I'm sure Tim Kaine did a lot more for/to Virginia as Governor; but the only thing I know of that he did has been reversed by Governor McDonnell.

Governor McDonnell (who was inaugurated on the 16th and I didn't even know it) has re-opened the rest areas!

I can pee again!

How long have you been holding it??

136 MandyManners  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 4:39:23am

re: #135 Cannadian Club Akbar

How long have you been holding it??

Man, that's one helluva' Pee-Pee Dance.

137 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 4:40:18am

re: #131 RogueOne

Why were they closed? lack of funds?

Yeah. Those things are expensive to run. So, Gov Kaine closed down 19 of them. In Virginia they are nice, clean, well lit, and busy.

Officials estimate it could cost as much as $7.5 million to operate them next year.

138 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 4:41:13am

re: #137 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Yeah. Those things are expensive to run. So, Gov Kaine closed down 19 of them. In Virginia they are nice, clean, well lit, and busy.

Officials estimate it could cost as much as $7.5 million to operate them next year.

You can pee at my house for a cool $1.5 mil.

139 MandyManners  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 4:41:47am

re: #137 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Yeah. Those things are expensive to run. So, Gov Kaine closed down 19 of them. In Virginia they are nice, clean, well lit, and busy.

Officials estimate it could cost as much as $7.5 million to operate them next year.

Why so much?! Gold-plated toilets?

140 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 4:41:50am

re: #135 Cannadian Club Akbar

I'm guessing the happiest folks out there right now are the road crew guys. Urine bombs are a problem out there. Guys driving the mowers, litter crews, etc.

One word... Ewww.

141 MandyManners  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 4:42:28am

re: #140 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I'm guessing the happiest folks out there right now are the road crew guys. Urine bombs are a problem out there. Guys driving the mowers, litter crews, etc.

One word... Ewww.

I hate to ask but, what's a urine bomb?

142 RogueOne  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 4:43:07am

re: #137 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Yeah. Those things are expensive to run. So, Gov Kaine closed down 19 of them. In Virginia they are nice, clean, well lit, and busy.

Officials estimate it could cost as much as $7.5 million to operate them next year.

Holy crap. You guys have 5-star rest stops. Around here there may be one employee per spot, everything is automated.

143 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 4:43:55am

re: #141 MandyManners

Trucker pees in a Gatorade bottle; caps it; throws it out the window. It doesn't break. Guy comes along on a riding lawnmower... like an PP-IED.

144 RogueOne  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 4:44:33am

I'm going to try to make it to my shop. Wish me luck.

145 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 4:45:46am

re: #143 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Trucker pees in a Gatorade bottle; caps it; throws it out the window. It doesn't break. Guy comes along on a riding lawnmower... like an PP-IED.

You guys need coffee restrictions for them.//

146 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 4:46:13am

re: #143 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Trucker pees in a Gatorade bottle; caps it; throws it out the window. It doesn't break. Guy comes along on a riding lawnmower... like an PP-IED.

It's a problem nationwide.

147 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 4:47:57am
148 MandyManners  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 4:48:06am

Kwame Kilpatrick lost his job as Detroit's mayor and his freedom, in part, for telling lies.

A judge on Wednesday called Kilpatrick deceitful and self-serving while ordering him to come up with more than $300,000 for restitution to the city within 90 days or possibly face a return to jail.

"We are here because you committed perjury," Wayne County Circuit Court Judge David Groner told Kilpatrick. "You pled guilty and you agreed to pay $1 million in restitution, but you have not been responsible in paying it. You have not been credible in this courtroom and you, again, have not been honest to the city of Detroit."

SNIP

Perjury charges related to a text-messaging sex scandal and 2007 whistle-blowers' trial led to his 2008 guilty plea to obstruction of justice and no contest plea to assault.

SNIP

After his Feb. 3, 2009 release, Kilpatrick was hired as an account executive for Covisint, a Texas subsidiary of Detroit-based Compuware. Groner then set monthly restitution payments at $6,000.

It was Kilpatrick's desire to pay smaller amounts that prompted prosecutors to delve into his finances. They accused Kilpatrick of hiding assets by moving large sums from bank accounts bearing his name to those under his wife's name, and wanted Groner to order him to pay a $225,000 lump sum.

"The court finds the defendant's conduct in this matter reprehensible," the judge said. "The defendant had not only continued to flout the orders of this court, but has continued his disregard and contempt for the people of the city of Detroit."

SNIP

Within 30 days, Kilpatrick has to pay $19,500, which represents 30 percent of two gifts paid to his wife and their three sons; $36,142 in moving expenses paid by the Kilpatrick Civic Fund; and $23,369 from his tax refund.

He has 90 days to fork over $240,000 in loans from four business executives. Groner also ordered him to continue making monthly payments totaling 30 percent of his income.

SNIP

But prosecutors also detailed lavish spending after Kilpatrick's time as mayor. They say he and his wife, Carlita, moved into a mansion in an affluent Dallas suburb and drive luxury sport utility vehicles. Bank records show big money was spent at restaurants and golf courses. One $595 payment was made at a Gucci store.

SNIP

149 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 4:49:16am

re: #147 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Think I'm kidding?

At least they had pics. GAK!

150 MandyManners  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 4:49:38am

re: #143 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Trucker pees in a Gatorade bottle; caps it; throws it out the window. It doesn't break. Guy comes along on a riding lawnmower... like an PP-IED.

Oh, that's just awful. Why not keep the bottle and toss it into the trash at the next stop?

151 MandyManners  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 4:50:13am

re: #144 RogueOne

I'm going to try to make it to my shop. Wish me luck.

The brake is not your friend.

152 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 4:50:34am

re: #150 MandyManners

Oh, that's just awful. Why not keep the bottle and toss it into the trash at the next stop?

I don't really know. That's what I do.

153 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 4:52:35am

I just got my first "Scott Brown" email.

Note to self... Don't donate money to campaigns online. Mail them a check.

What did I get for the $50.00 I sent to McCain? 500 emails.

154 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 4:53:24am

re: #149 Cannadian Club Akbar

Yeah, kinda hitched in my throat when I saw that. That's why I shared with you.

155 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 4:53:28am

re: #153 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I just got my first "Scott Brown" email.

Note to self... Don't donate money to campaigns online. Mail them a check.

What did I get for the $50.00 I sent to McCain? 500 emails.

Always use money orders.

156 jdog29  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 4:54:32am

Some of Scott Brown's supporters are vile human beings.

Some of President Obama's supporters are vile human beings.

What to do what to do? //

157 MandyManners  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 4:55:12am

re: #152 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I don't really know. That's what I do.

Laziness is what it is.

158 jdog29  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 4:56:21am

re: #157 MandyManners

Laziness is what it is.

It's environmental terrorism.

159 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 4:56:33am

re: #156 jdog29

Some of Scott Brown's supporters are vile human beings.

Some of President Obama's supporters are vile human beings.

What to do what to do? //

Stick with LGF.

160 MandyManners  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 4:59:21am

The Pentagon announced Wednesday that it would send a second Marine unit to Haiti to support what has become an expanding relief effort for the Defense Department, deepening the American military’s role there.

About 4,000 marines and sailors from the 24th Marine Expeditionary Unit, Camp Lejeune, N.C., who were scheduled to leave for Afghanistan this week, will instead steam to Haiti to support humanitarian relief operations. The unit will still continue on to the Arabian Sea for its scheduled deployment in the coming weeks.

But the decision to re-route the Marines points up the depth of the need for humanitarian assistance in Haiti, which experienced a severe aftershock Wednesday. It also presents the Pentagon with a delicate balancing act, since the already-overstretched US military can ill afford to get mired in a security-and-stabilization mission.

The US must do as much as it can while taking care not to create a false expectation, says Tony Cordesman, an analyst at the Center for Strategic and International Studies, a think tank in Washington.

“There are strong reasons not to deploy US forces to Haiti because if you do, you get a mission of dependency,” says Mr. Cordesman. “We have to be very, very careful about our rhetoric; amidst a crisis, you want to assure people we will do what we can, but we cannot do what we can’t.”

SNIP

161 MandyManners  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 4:59:39am

re: #158 jdog29

It's environmental terrorism.

I wouldn't go that far.

162 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 5:00:20am

re: #161 MandyManners

I wouldn't go that far.

The plastic bottles are the problem, me think.

163 MandyManners  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 5:01:12am

re: #162 Cannadian Club Akbar

The plastic bottles are the problem, me think.

Well, urine is a bio-hazard.

164 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 5:01:40am

Heh. Bowling with the Sopranos.

VINELAND, NJ — Police have charged three people in connection with the fire that destroyed Loyle Lanes bowling alley in Vineland last week, including the owner of a rival bowling alley.

165 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 5:02:08am

re: #163 MandyManners

Well, urine is a bio-hazard.

Then don't go in my back yard.

166 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 5:03:47am

Peter La Fleur: Patches?... are you sure that this is completely necessary?
Patches O'Houlihan: Necessary? Is it necessary for me to drink my own urine?
Peter La Fleur: Probably not.
Patches O'Houlihan: No, but I do it anyway because it's sterile and I like the taste.

-Dodgeball: A True Underdog Story

167 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 5:05:00am

re: #165 Cannadian Club Akbar

Then don't go in my back yard.

I meant don't travel in my backyard. Oops!!

168 MandyManners  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 5:10:37am

re: #165 Cannadian Club Akbar

Then don't go in my back yard.

You don't have a deck?

169 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 5:11:55am

re: #168 MandyManners

You don't have a deck?

What am I rich? Gotta pole barn, though.

170 MandyManners  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 5:13:32am

re: #169 Cannadian Club Akbar

What am I rich? Gotta pole barn, though.

You have a barn for your poles?

171 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 5:14:00am

re: #170 MandyManners

You have a barn for your poles?

Wow. What an idea to wake up to.

172 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 5:14:28am

Senator George Lemuix R-FL is on my radio. He filled in after Mel Martinez and the guy is nails.

173 MandyManners  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 5:15:44am

re: #171 thedopefishlives

Wow. What an idea to wake up to.

Glad to be of service!

174 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 5:15:46am

re: #171 thedopefishlives

Wow. What an idea to wake up to.

Guess you missed the 20 or so post about urine.

175 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 5:16:11am

re: #174 Cannadian Club Akbar

Guess you missed the 20 or so post about urine.

Was just in the process of catching up. I think I'll pass.

176 MandyManners  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 5:16:54am

re: #175 thedopefishlives

Was just in the process of catching up. I think I'll pass.

*snicker*

177 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 5:17:06am

re: #176 MandyManners

*snicker*

Hey, the pun thread's gotta start somewhere.

178 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 5:18:27am

Did anyone else just have the screen flash?

179 RogueOne  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 5:19:24am

Made it easily, piece of cake. They decided to close the schools though on my way in so maybe they think it's going to get worse.

180 RogueOne  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 5:19:56am

re: #178 Cannadian Club Akbar

Did anyone else just have the screen flash?

You blacking out on us?

181 MandyManners  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 5:20:20am

re: #177 thedopefishlives

Hey, the pun thread's gotta start somewhere.

I doubt this one will go.

182 MandyManners  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 5:20:31am

Gotta' git.

183 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 5:20:40am

re: #180 RogueOne

You blacking out on us?

I lose 1 laptop and I am branded for life.

184 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 5:20:55am

re: #181 MandyManners

I doubt this one will go.

Meh, it'll be relieving.

185 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 5:21:43am

If you guys start a pun thread, urine trouble.

186 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 5:22:07am

re: #179 RogueOne

Made it easily, piece of cake. They decided to close the schools though on my way in so maybe they think it's going to get worse.

Yeah, I can see you guys are getting hammered down there. It's supposed to do something up here this weekend; looks like ice is in the forecast so far. Yay fun.

187 prairiefire  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 5:22:20am

re: #72 srb1976

Morning. Target's Archer Farms brand Italian Soda is really good.

188 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 5:24:00am

re: #186 thedopefishlives

Yeah, I can see you guys are getting hammered down there. It's supposed to do something up here this weekend; looks like ice is in the forecast so far. Yay fun.

It's gonna be 75 today.

189 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 5:27:15am

re: #188 Cannadian Club Akbar

It's gonna be 75 today.

What an A**hole.

190 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 5:28:10am

re: #188 Cannadian Club Akbar

It's gonna be 75 today.

It was 27 degrees when I woke up to go to work. And believe it or not, I thought it was warm.

191 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 5:28:19am

re: #189 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

What an A**hole.

I know. Can you believe that guy?

192 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 5:29:09am

re: #190 thedopefishlives

It was 27 degrees when I woke up to go to work. And believe it or not, I thought it was warm.

It was a dry cold.

193 Doubleview  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 5:30:11am

I know the Tea Partiers get a lot of flak on this site, but there is a fundamental erosion of liberty occurring in this country. The Index of Economic Freedom no longer lists the US as "Free", but rather "Mostly Free".
[Link: www.heritage.org...]

The Tea Party has its extremists, but to think that everyone identifying with the Party's concerns about the increasing loss of liberty in this country is a kook misses the underlying concern that drove Scott Brown to victory.

194 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 5:45:18am

re: #193 Doubleview

The original thought of the tea parties was a good thing. Kooks took over the parties.

195 RogueOne  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 5:45:38am

re: #80 MandyManners

BTW, I read here yesterday that he got 70 per cent of the Independent vote. True?

I think you got that number from one of my posts and I kinda pulled it out of my ass. If the polls are correct that he won independents by 40 pts then it would have to be somewhere right at 70% This politico story says 64%, well within my margin of error./

[Link: www.politico.com...]

196 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 5:47:13am

re: #193 Doubleview

If it weren't for the fact that a lot of the most sincere nutjobbiest nutjobs are in the teaparty leadership, I think they'd get a more of a pass.

I am able to express my discontent without associating with people who have stolen grenade launchers in their basements.

197 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 5:47:25am

Hebrew National hot dog and cheetos. Breakfast of Champions.

198 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 5:47:53am

re: #197 Cannadian Club Akbar

Hebrew National hot dog and cheetos. Breakfast of Champions.

Eh, I treated myself to McDonald's this morning. It's gonna be a long day.

199 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 5:47:54am

re: #195 RogueOne

My margin of error is much larger than that.

200 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 5:48:51am

re: #196 Fat Bastard Vegetarian


I am able to express my discontent without associating with people who have stolen grenade launchers in their basements.

I saw that article when I logged on this morning, and I thought to myself, "Who in their right mind -- oh wait. They're not in their right mind." Seems to apply to a lot of teabaggers.

201 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 5:49:33am

Morning Lizards!

If you are driving in the Chicagoland area, be careful, lots of ice out there.

How are you-all this a.m.?

202 Mad Al-Jaffee  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 5:50:34am

Morning Lizards. Happy Thursday.

203 Mad Al-Jaffee  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 5:51:10am

re: #197 Cannadian Club Akbar

Hebrew National hot dog and cheetos. Breakfast of Champions.

Make sure you have some Little Chocolate Donuts with that.

204 RogueOne  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 5:51:16am

I had heard people mention Beck doesn't like Brown but since I don't pay attention to him I didn't know what he had said:

[Link: www.politico.com...]


Conservative talk show host Glenn Beck slammed Brown’s acceptance speech on his show Wednesday – specifically for broadcasting on national television that his two daughters are currently “available.” Beck appeared to compare Brown to Gary Condit, the former Democratic congressman who some suspected was involved in the disappearance of his mistress and congressional intern Chandra Levy, who was found dead.

“I want a chastity belt on this man,” Beck said. “I want his every move watched in Washington. I don't trust this guy. This one could end with a dead intern.”

What in the hell is wrong with that man? good lord, "batshit crazy" doesn't do him justice.

205 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 5:51:36am

re: #202 Mad Al-Jaffee

Morning Lizards. Happy Thursday.

Thursday means Fringe is on tonight!!

206 CapeCoddah  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 5:52:12am

Good Morning everyone... Howie Carr has an article this morning that explains why we have a serious problem with Massachusetts health care system, and the reason we do NOT want it foisted on the rest of you.
It is descending into a rationing hell, because costs cannot be controlled.

207 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 5:52:32am

re: #203 Mad Al-Jaffee

Make sure you have some Little Chocolate Donuts with that.

Actually, I have some Entenmans.:)

208 Mad Al-Jaffee  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 5:53:11am

re: #205 Cannadian Club Akbar

Thursday means Fringe is on tonight!!

And Parks & Recreation, The Office and 30 Rock. I have to tape them all while I'm at rehearsal. First one the band's had since October.

209 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 5:53:34am

Bye, y'all. See ya this afternoon!

210 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 5:53:57am

re: #204 RogueOne

I had heard people mention Beck doesn't like Brown but since I don't pay attention to him I didn't know what he had said:

[Link: www.politico.com...]


What in the hell is wrong with that man? good lord, "batshit crazy" doesn't do him justice.

What a horrible thing to say.

211 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 5:54:10am

re: #204 RogueOne


What in the hell is wrong with that man? good lord, "batshit crazy" doesn't do him justice.

If we knew the answer to that, Rogue, we'd all be billionaires.

212 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 5:54:17am

re: #207 Cannadian Club Akbar

Actually, I have some Entenmans.:)

mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm!

213 CapeCoddah  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 5:54:45am

re: #204 RogueOne

Tell you what folks, we should concentrate as a nation on a grassroots effort complaining to the networks and getting the clinically insane...Beck, Olbermann etc... the hell off the airwaves.

214 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 5:55:10am

re: #211 thedopefishlives

If we knew the answer to that, Rogue, we'd all be billionaires.

I think there is probably a diagnosis code in the DSM for him. . . .

215 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 5:55:12am

re: #208 Mad Al-Jaffee

Good for you!!

216 reine.de.tout  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 5:55:58am

re: #179 RogueOne

Made it easily, piece of cake. They decided to close the schools though on my way in so maybe they think it's going to get worse.

Glad you made it thru OK

217 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 5:56:31am

re: #61 andres

The Panda's Thumb (pandasthumb.org) web-site has had a contributor following the Freshwater case who lives in/near Mt Vernon and has been attending the hearings.

A lot more details than a single newspaper article, and the author also links to coverage in the local papers.

218 RogueOne  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 5:56:54am

re: #216 reine.de.tout

It's really not all that bad out there as long as you're on the main roads. Temps should be just high enough to keep it from freezing too much today.

219 reine.de.tout  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 5:56:57am

re: #188 Cannadian Club Akbar

It's gonna be 75 today.

That's what it was here yesterday, and is predicted for today.
In fact it looks like we have a full week of temps in upper 60's to mid 70's predicted.

220 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 5:58:04am

re: #219 reine.de.tout

That's what it was here yesterday, and is predicted for today.
In fact it looks like we have a full week of temps in upper 60's to mid 70's predicted.

Look out, people will hate you for saying that. Or they just hate me.
//

221 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 5:58:32am

Good morning folks. Sunny so far today in Philly (but then it always is...)

Tea and biscuits this morning. The latter left-overs from last night's dinner. Those that are left after the senior cat overlord demanded his share.

222 Mad Al-Jaffee  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 5:58:49am

re: #215 Cannadian Club Akbar

Good for you!!

Thanks. Rehearsal's always good (and important), but getting there is a hassle. What should be a 40-45 minute drive to Baltimore usually takes over an hour.

223 Mad Al-Jaffee  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 6:01:38am

re: #221 oaktree

Good morning folks. Sunny so far today in Philly (but then it always is...)

I love that show.

224 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 6:02:01am

re: #222 Mad Al-Jaffee

Thanks. Rehearsal's always good (and important), but getting there is a hassle. What should be a 40-45 minute drive to Baltimore usually takes over an hour.

I have a friend moving to Bmore soon. He tried to get me to go.

225 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 6:03:38am

so, what is everyone reading?

226 Mad Al-Jaffee  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 6:05:36am

re: #225 ggt

so, what is everyone reading?

I just read your latest post.

227 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 6:06:20am

re: #226 Mad Al-Jaffee

I just read your latest post.

I skipped it. Shhhh.
//

228 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 6:06:46am

re: #226 Mad Al-Jaffee

I just read your latest post.

smarty-pants! Indulge my bibliophile needs. . . .

229 Mad Al-Jaffee  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 6:06:47am

re: #224 Cannadian Club Akbar

I have a friend moving to Bmore soon. He tried to get me to go.

It's a great city, and not as scary as depicted on The Wire.

230 Obdicut  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 6:07:30am

re: #225 ggt

I'm reading a biography of Oppenheimer, the title of which I forget. I'm getting annoyed with Gladwell's overconclusive style in Blink, and i'm also thoroughly enjoying a collection of Tom Waits's lyrics.

And LGF, of course.

231 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 6:07:47am

re: #229 Mad Al-Jaffee

It's a great city, and not as scary as depicted on The Wire.

Don't know what the wire is, but I know Ace of Cakes.

232 Mad Al-Jaffee  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 6:07:58am

re: #228 ggt

smarty-pants! Indulge my bibliophile needs. . . .

No Beast So Fierce by Edward Bunker. And Oxford American's 11th annual Southern Music issue.

233 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 6:08:53am

re: #225 ggt

Still working my way through Pratchett's Discworld books. Just finished _Feet of Clay_ last night.

George McDonald Fraser's _Pyrates_ is on-deck. Also have some military history books on the to-read pile. World War 2, Pacific Theatre stuff.

234 Obdicut  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 6:09:16am

re: #228 ggt

Ah. Here's my semi-obscure but great- book short-list, by the way:

The Master and Margarita, by Mikahil Bulgakov.
Darwin's Dangerous Idea, by Daniel Dennett
Sewer, Gas, Electric, by Matt Ruff
More Pricks than Kicks, by Samuel Beckett

235 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 6:10:02am

re: #228 ggt

smarty-pants! Indulge my bibliophile needs. . . .

Actually, right now, I'm in between books. I haven't really seen anything down at the Barnes & Noble that caught my eye lately.

236 Mad Al-Jaffee  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 6:10:15am

re: #231 Cannadian Club Akbar

Don't know what the wire is, but I know Ace of Cakes.

It's only the best police/crime show ever made, but much more than that. It's really more about Baltimore than anything else. Get the first season from Netflix and start watching!

237 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 6:11:11am

re: #233 oaktree

Still working my way through Pratchett's Discworld books. Just finished _Feet of Clay_ last night.

George McDonald Fraser's _Pyrates_ is on-deck. Also have some military history books on the to-read pile. World War 2, Pacific Theatre stuff.

I read one Pratchett a long time ago. I was so wierd, I haven't tried to read him again. All I remember is that there was a couch stuck in the stairwell. I should try again. My tolerance for wierd has increased quite a bit since.

238 Mad Al-Jaffee  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 6:12:12am

I got Michael Connelly's The Concrete Blonde to read when I'm done with Bunker. I'm slowly working my way through all of his Harry Bosch books.

239 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 6:12:32am

I never learned to read!!
Waynes World

240 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 6:12:35am

re: #232 Mad Al-Jaffee

No Beast So Fierce by Edward Bunker. And Oxford American's 11th annual Southern Music issue.

The Bunker books sound so real. I think I'd better stick to wierd fiction. The world seems more tolerable that way.

241 Obdicut  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 6:13:14am

re: #237 ggt

That was Adams, with the couch stuck in the stairwell-- Dirk Gentley's Holistic Detective Agency.

Pratchett is similar, but markedly different. More romping good times, and more agonizing personal choices, too.

Pratchett's style changes a bit from his first to his most recent, as well.

242 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 6:14:00am

I just finished A Company of Liars by Karen Maitland. It was good--but better read around Halloween.

I can't recommend enough: The City and the City by China Miellville.

243 Mad Al-Jaffee  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 6:14:44am

re: #240 ggt

The Bunker books sound so real. I think I'd better stick to wierd fiction. The world seems more tolerable that way.

He reminds me a little of Bukowski, if Bukowski was an ex-con. Maybe it's the LA settings.

244 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 6:14:59am

re: #241 Obdicut

That was Adams, with the couch stuck in the stairwell-- Dirk Gentley's Holistic Detective Agency.

Pratchett is similar, but markedly different. More romping good times, and more agonizing personal choices, too.

Pratchett's style changes a bit from his first to his most recent, as well.

Ah, I then shall try Pratchett.

245 Mad Al-Jaffee  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 6:16:05am

re: #239 Cannadian Club Akbar

I never learned to read!!
Waynes World

"Is it a crime to be illiterate?!"

"Is it a crime to bet on sporting events?!"

-Krusty the Klown

246 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 6:16:44am

re: #243 Mad Al-Jaffee

He reminds me a little of Bukowski, if Bukowski was an ex-con. Maybe it's the LA settings.

I read Always Outnumbered, Always Outgunned by Walter Mosely--similar concept --ex-con trying to make it. I loved his Easy Rawlin's series and some of his other stuff, but this was hard to take. Again, too much reality.

247 Mad Al-Jaffee  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 6:17:31am

re: #246 ggt

I read Always Outnumbered, Always Outgunned by Walter Mosely--similar concept --ex-con trying to make it. I loved his Easy Rawlin's series and some of his other stuff, but this was hard to take. Again, too much reality.

I haven't read Mosely, but I plan to.

You definitely wouldn't like Bunker's autobiography.

248 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 6:18:46am

I had a cop read to me the other day. Not sure who Miranda is, though.
/OK, I'll stop.

249 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 6:19:06am

re: #247 Mad Al-Jaffee

I haven't read Mosely, but I plan to.

You definitely wouldn't like Bunker's autobiography.

Mosely's characters are great! and the Mysteries are well done. Very talented writer.

250 Gretchen G.Tiger  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 6:19:31am

Gotta go,

Have a great morning all and don't slide on the ice.

251 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 6:20:02am

re: #237 ggt

Couch stuck in a stairwell sounds like a bit in one of Douglas Adam's Dirk Gently detective novels. Always remember it since I saw a very similar situation trying to move a sofa into an apartment helping a friend move.

Not sure what to recommend as a starter for Pratchett. The early Discworld books introduce most of the characters, but aren't quite as good as I'm finding the later ones (they just don't finish well.) Of the "sequences" I think the Night Watch and Death groups are the most entertaining. The former starts with _Guards! Guards!_ and has some cute bits.

I find Pratchett "amusing". Clever stuff and I chuckle now and then. Occasionally an outright guffaw. But there is a bit of depth in it as he deals with issues under a layer of humor. For instance, _Feet of Clay_ centers around the use of golems, which are arguably simply magical mechanisms that obey programming and orders. If some of them act like they have will/wants beyond their programming, how should it be dealt with? (Could be taken as a analogy for the development of true AI.)

I'm hoping to find the Fraser book amusing. I have enjoyed his "Flashman" books a great deal.

252 Mad Al-Jaffee  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 6:20:18am

re: #248 Cannadian Club Akbar

I had a cop read to me the other day. Not sure who Miranda is, though.
/OK, I'll stop.

Isn't she the chick with the fruit on her head?

253 Daniel Ballard  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 6:20:51am

re: #234 Obdicut

After the grammar a thon last night-For today I have "The Highly Selective Thesaurus For The Extrordinarily Literate".

Eugene Ehrlich
Heh.

254 reine.de.tout  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 6:20:53am

Evacuations are being recommended in California due to the potential for life-threatening mudslides, but some people refuse to go.

I am willing to bet at least some of those folks are ones who yelled the loudest about the stupidity of refusal to evacuate when Katrina flooded NOLA.

255 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 6:21:51am

re: #252 Mad Al-Jaffee

Isn't she the chick with the fruit on her head?

The cop shoulda just pulled out a banana for a visual aid.
/Last one

256 reine.de.tout  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 6:21:56am

re: #253 Rightwingconspirator

After the grammar a thon last night-For today I have "The Highly Selective Thesaurus For The Extrordinarily Literate".

Eugene Ehrlich
Heh.

You can learn all sorts of things here at LGF.
Almost as effective as going to college.

257 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 6:22:50am

re: #256 reine.de.tout

In certain ways more.

258 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 6:22:56am

re: #254 reine.de.tout

I asked Matrix about the situation this morning. He said nothing big where he was.

259 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 6:24:13am

re: #258 Cannadian Club Akbar

I asked Matrix about the situation this morning. He said nothing big where he was.

If he says the situation is "fluid" I take it that would be a cause for alarm?

260 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 6:25:28am

re: #259 oaktree

If he says the situation is "fluid" I take it that would be a cause for alarm?

I told him he was gonna be blogging from a piece of driftwood.

261 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 6:26:10am

re: #260 Cannadian Club Akbar

Are there big enough trees there for that? Or would he be using a bundle of brush?

262 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 6:27:06am

re: #261 oaktree

Are there big enough trees there for that? Or would he be using a bundle of brush?

True. They just left fire season.

263 Daniel Ballard  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 6:29:03am

re: #254 reine.de.tout

You are right about that.

264 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 6:30:11am

re: #254 reine.de.tout

Evacuations are being recommended in California due to the potential for life-threatening mudslides, but some people refuse to go.

I am willing to bet at least some of those folks are ones who yelled the loudest about the stupidity of refusal to evacuate when Katrina flooded NOLA.

It's always different when you're looking at someone else's stupid decision as opposed to your own.

265 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 6:34:40am

re: #264 thedopefishlives

If you're below sea level and a CAT 3 is on the way, you get out.

266 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 6:35:13am

re: #265 Cannadian Club Akbar

Wait, I mis read you. Sorry.

267 MandyManners  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 6:36:20am

re: #238 Mad Al-Jaffee

I got Michael Connelly's The Concrete Blonde to read when I'm done with Bunker. I'm slowly working my way through all of his Harry Bosch books.

Oh, I love Connelly.

268 Mad Al-Jaffee  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 6:36:57am

re: #267 MandyManners

Oh, I love Connelly.

in bed?

269 MandyManners  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 6:38:05am

I'm still cracking up over BHO's assertion that the same thought process that brought Brown to office brought him to office.

Does anyone else remember the "Me-Too" episode over that bracelet during the campaign?

270 MandyManners  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 6:39:17am

re: #269 MandyManners

I'm still cracking up over BHO's assertion that the same thought process that brought Brown to office brought him to office.

Does anyone else remember the "Me-Too" episode over that bracelet during the campaign?

I had the video on YouTube saved but, it's been yanked.

271 MandyManners  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 6:39:40am

re: #268 Mad Al-Jaffee

in bed?

Where else?

272 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 6:40:57am

bbl

273 Mad Al-Jaffee  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 6:41:00am

re: #271 MandyManners

Where else?

Couch, shower, woods, backseat of a car, etc. ;)

274 Daniel Ballard  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 6:44:07am

re: #264 thedopefishlives

When I look at weather radar. it's really good and national. Kudos intellicast. So I look at the "big" storm and then I scroll over to NOLA last night and that storm must be 10x as big. It blows through with barely a mention there. LA really has no idea what rain storms can be.

275 MandyManners  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 6:45:17am

re: #273 Mad Al-Jaffee

Couch, shower, woods, backseat of a car, etc. ;)

Dining room table.

276 CapeCoddah  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 6:46:19am

re: #269 MandyManners

I'm still cracking up over BHO's assertion that the same thought process that brought Brown to office brought him to office.

Does anyone else remember the "Me-Too" episode over that bracelet during the campaign?

Brown did get into office the same way Mandy, but, what the president does not get, is that it was a vote AGAINST his policies. Not to mention the need to clean up the absolute filth in this states government.
Here is an article by Marjorie Eagan, a Boston Herald columnist, a staunch democrat, who was a rabid Coakley supporter, although her support was solely because Martha was female. Her column this morning supports every argument I made about why the voters of this state came out in record numbers and made a drastic change.
A vote for change.

277 Spare O'Lake  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 6:46:44am

Is Obama making room under the bus for a big whack of left-of-centre Dems?
Because I think he's going to need lots of room under there after he executes his anticipated veer to the right on domestic policy.
Good Morning LGF.

278 Daniel Ballard  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 6:48:18am

re: #256 reine.de.tout

It just occurred that LGF is little like an inverse college. It's kinda like a room with 10 Professors, and 1 student. For each of us.

279 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 6:48:31am

re: #277 Spare O'Lake

Is Obama making room under the bus for a big whack of left-of-centre Dems?
Because I think he's going to need lots of room under there after he executes his anticipated veer to the right on domestic policy.
Good Morning LGF.

He's already alienated a lot of the rabid Left because he hasn't actioned withdrawal from Iraq/Afghanistan, the immediate closure of Guantanamo Bay, revocation of the Patriot Act, etc. Honestly, it appears that he's not so far left as he led us all to believe, though he is obviously a proponent of big government spending.

280 MandyManners  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 6:51:20am

re: #276 CapeCoddah

Brown did get into office the same way Mandy, but, what the president does not get, is that it was a vote AGAINST his policies. Not to mention the need to clean up the absolute filth in this states government.
Here is an article by Marjorie Eagan, a Boston Herald columnist, a staunch democrat, who was a rabid Coakley supporter, although her support was solely because Martha was female. Her column this morning supports every argument I made about why the voters of this state came out in record numbers and made a drastic change.
A vote for change.

I left that bit out.

281 MandyManners  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 6:52:03am

re: #276 CapeCoddah

Linky no worky.

(BTW, it's great to see you back.)

282 Daniel Ballard  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 6:52:53am

re: #279 thedopefishlives

He's already alienated a lot of the rabid Left because he hasn't actioned withdrawal from Iraq/Afghanistan, the immediate closure of Guantanamo Bay, revocation of the Patriot Act, etc. Honestly, it appears that he's not so far left as he led us all to believe, though he is obviously a proponent of big government spending.

As his own history led me to believe. Chicago. Rev Wright. The Board with Ayers. Senate actions. But like Pres. Clinton, reality moves your politics. Look how 9/11 moved politics. I said to my left wing pals-"You are going to be very pleased. Congratulations". Uh FAIL on my part.

283 Ericus58  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 6:54:01am

re: #269 MandyManners

I'm still cracking up over BHO's assertion that the same thought process that brought Brown to office brought him to office.

There seems to be a concerted effort on the part of Democratic operatives to frame this setback they've experienced in this term.

284 Spare O'Lake  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 6:54:28am

re: #279 thedopefishlives

He's already alienated a lot of the rabid Left because he hasn't actioned withdrawal from Iraq/Afghanistan, the immediate closure of Guantanamo Bay, revocation of the Patriot Act, etc. Honestly, it appears that he's not so far left as he led us all to believe, though he is obviously a proponent of big government spending.

I've always maintained that he will say or do almost ANYTHING which he believes will enhance his own political power.
Some call it being politically savvy...others call it being unprincipled.

285 MandyManners  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 6:54:48am

re: #277 Spare O'Lake

Is Obama making room under the bus for a big whack of left-of-centre Dems?
Because I think he's going to need lots of room under there after he executes his anticipated veer to the right on domestic policy.
Good Morning LGF.

As I noted in No. 98, I heard him say this morning, "We were so busy getting stuff done that we didn't speak to the American people about what their core values were."

I don't think that he's gonna' boot the moonbats. I think he's still gonna' try to force his agenda down our throats.

286 MandyManners  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 6:55:38am

re: #279 thedopefishlives

He's already alienated a lot of the rabid Left because he hasn't actioned withdrawal from Iraq/Afghanistan, the immediate closure of Guantanamo Bay, revocation of the Patriot Act, etc. Honestly, it appears that he's not so far left as he led us all to believe, though he is obviously a proponent of big government spending.

I have a bridge to sell you.

287 Mad Al-Jaffee  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 6:56:09am

re: #281 MandyManners

Linky no worky.

(BTW, it's great to see you back.)

I got it to work by taking the extra "http" off.

288 MandyManners  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 6:56:43am

re: #283 Ericus58

There seems to be a concerted effort on the part of Democratic operatives to frame this setback they've experienced in this term.

Blame Bush. Jump on the Me-Too Wagon.

289 darthstar  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 6:56:58am

Mornin' folks. Looks like Cindy McCain has decided hanging around making John look good isn't enough. Good for her.

[Link: noh8campaign.com...]

290 MandyManners  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 6:57:13am

re: #287 Mad Al-Jaffee

I got it to work by taking the extra "http" off.

Hold on.

291 cliffster  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 6:57:13am

re: #282 Rightwingconspirator

As his own history led me to believe. Chicago. Rev Wright. The Board with Ayers. Senate actions. But like Pres. Clinton, reality moves your politics. Look how 9/11 moved politics. I said to my left wing pals-"You are going to be very pleased. Congratulations". Uh FAIL on my part.

There's a difference between what one believes and what one knows they can do. The changes Obama would like to see will never get through; he understands that he can only make incremental changes in the direction he'd like to see things go.

292 cliffster  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 6:58:09am

re: #291 cliffster

Oh yeah, and good morning all.

293 RogueOne  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 6:58:53am

Gotta bolt, cya later folks. Enjoy your day.

294 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 6:59:09am

re: #284 Spare O'Lake

I've always maintained that he will say or do almost ANYTHING which he believes will enhance his own political power.
Some call it being politically savvy...others call it being unprincipled.

Of course he will, that's how all good politicians work. If they didn't, they'd never get elected - but then again, we'd also get a heckuva lot more stuff done in this country.

295 Daniel Ballard  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 6:59:14am

OTW

296 gearhead  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 6:59:14am
An important scientific innovation...

Is this the Hugo Chavez thread?

297 MandyManners  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 6:59:51am

re: #287 Mad Al-Jaffee

I got it to work by taking the extra "http" off.

Thanks!

298 MandyManners  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 7:00:47am

re: #276 CapeCoddah

A lot of the complaints can be distilled down to the abuse of power of unions.

299 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 7:01:01am

re: #286 MandyManners

I have a bridge to sell you.

You may think me naive, but I still maintain that his exposure to reality upon assuming office tempered his far-left tendencies. Political idealism just doesn't work when you're faced with the complex domestic and foreign policy situation that is the American Presidency.

300 MandyManners  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 7:02:21am

re: #296 gearhead

Is this the Hugo Chavez thread?

Spanish newspaper ABC quotes Chavez as saying that the U.S. navy launched a weapon capable of inducing a powerful earthquake off the shore of Haiti. He adds that this time it was only a drill and the final target is ... destroying and taking over Iran.

No, fuckwad. YOU'RE NEXT.

301 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 7:03:29am

re: #300 MandyManners


No, fuckwad. YOU'RE NEXT.

Especially now that he's on to our game. We can't have him running around exposing our super-sekrit world-breaking naval weapons platforms.

302 MandyManners  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 7:03:32am

re: #299 thedopefishlives

You may think me naive, but I still maintain that his exposure to reality upon assuming office tempered his far-left tendencies. Political idealism just doesn't work when you're faced with the complex domestic and foreign policy situation that is the American Presidency.

Look at his appointees, and not just the ones who needed Senate confirmation. He has inserted extreme far-left people in roles necessary to bring about radical change.

When a man tells me who he is, I believe him.

303 simoom  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 7:03:42am

Explosives found at home of alleged Virginia gunman

Appomattox, Va. - A bomb squad discovered a multitude of explosives Wednesday at the home of a man accused of slaying eight people, and crews were detonating the devices as details about the suspected gunman came to light.
...
By Wednesday afternoon, bomb squads had detonated seven explosives. The blasting was expected to continue today.
...
Authorities remained tight-lipped on most details, including any possible motive. Investigators would say only that he knew his victims. Late Wednesday, authorities said the dead were four adults, three teenagers and a 4-year-old.
...
Police were alerted to the blood bath when they found the wounded man, who died on the way to the hospital. Sheriff's deputies discovered seven more bodies -- three inside the house and four just outside.
...
"This is a horrific tragedy," state police spokeswoman Corinne Geller said. "It's definitely one of the worst mass killings in Virginia."
304 MandyManners  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 7:04:01am

re: #301 thedopefishlives

Especially now that he's on to our game. We can't have him running around exposing our super-sekrit world-breaking naval weapons platforms.

*cackle*

305 Mad Al-Jaffee  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 7:04:32am

re: #300 MandyManners

Spanish newspaper ABC quotes Chavez as saying that the U.S. navy launched a weapon capable of inducing a powerful earthquake off the shore of Haiti. He adds that this time it was only a drill and the final target is ... destroying and taking over Iran.

No, fuckwad. YOU'RE NEXT.

We'll threaten to destroy Iran with an earthquake unless they give us, evil pause, One Million Dollars!

306 gearhead  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 7:06:06am

re: #301 thedopefishlives

Especially now that he's on to our game. We can't have him running around exposing our super-sekrit world-breaking naval weapons platforms.

"No, Meester Bond, I expect you to die..."

307 MandyManners  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 7:06:29am

re: #303 simoom

Explosives found at home of alleged Virginia gunman

David Anderson, co-owner of the Sunshine Market grocery store in Lynchburg, where Speight sometimes provided security, said that Speight was worried that his sister and brother-in-law wanted to kick him out of the house.

Well, guess what, asshole? You're going to THE BIG HOUSE now. They won't kick you out of there.

308 CapeCoddah  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 7:06:35am

Sorry for the bad link, try this one.

309 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 7:07:06am

re: #302 MandyManners

Look at his appointees, and not just the ones who needed Senate confirmation. He has inserted extreme far-left people in roles necessary to bring about radical change.

When a man tells me who he is, I believe him.

I didn't say his far-left tendencies went away altogether. I said they were tempered. He may want to do a whole lot of radical things, but the reality of the job has brought the realization that there's some things he shouldn't do - at least, not immediately. I mean, he did push the whole universal health care thing, so he's obviously a bit left of center.

310 CapeCoddah  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 7:08:21am

Dont know why the link will not work, so here is the article...

By Margery Eagan
Thursday, January 21, 2010 - Updated 4h ago
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OK, I’m looking for an upside.

Maybe I’m reaching, but here’s one: I heard from dozens of people yesterday who said they couldn’t vote for Martha Coakley because they’re disgusted with Democrats on Beacon Hill. Me, too.

I heard complaints about everything from the higher sales tax to three disgraced speakers and three disgraced state senators in a row while legislators dilly-dallied about ousting them (a judge finally put Anthony Galluccio in jail).

Some cited legislators who took a 5-percent pay raise while their constituents lost jobs and homes. Others complained about union abuses and double-dipping abuses.

Particularly enraging: Lawrence Mayor William Lantigua, who’s raking in $100,000 as mayor and $61,440 as a state rep, and socking away two government pensions.

Are his fellow Democrats ever going to broom this guy, these voters wondered, or will he just keep stealing forever?

“I was very impressed with Martha Coakley, but I had a real hard time voting for a Democrat,” said John Soldano of Medford, a food services manager. “Things don’t change or improve, everything from senior driving (the Legislature refuses to test dangerous elderly drivers) to allowing the UMass president to get a big raise.”

He was referring to a Herald story about University of Massachusetts President Jack Wilson’s recent 15 percent pay hike, bringing his salary to a staggering $546,000, even as the school raises student fees amid hard times.

Said Soldano: “How can they not stand up when things have gotten worse and worse?”

“Voters are unhappy with the way Massachusetts Democrats treat them. The blatant disregard, the corruption,” said Shelley Hachman of Billerica, a mother of three who works in retail. “The heads of unions are as bad as politicians,” she said, going on about no-show jobs, early retirements, sweetheart deals and state workers holding signs for Coakley.

“My husband and I met in the military. I’ve lived all over. Texas, Michigan, Ohio. . . . I’ve never seen a state so shoddily run.”

Does Deval Patrick get credit for cracking down on pension abuses and police details? Not much, she said, especially since flaggers make almost as much as police.

“Beacon Hill has to understand they contributed to Brown’s victory by creating this anti-government atmosphere,” said Democratic strategist Dan Payne.

No kidding. Symbols matter. Stealing from taxpayers matters. As for the conventional wisdom that few voters pay attention - a lot of them did on Tuesday.

And look what happened.

311 Spare O'Lake  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 7:11:00am

re: #285 MandyManners

As I noted in No. 98, I heard him say this morning, "We were so busy getting stuff done that we didn't speak to the American people about what their core values were."

I don't think that he's gonna' boot the moonbats. I think he's still gonna' try to force his agenda down our throats.

You actually believe him to be more principled than I do.
I really believe that his sole agenda is to promote his own image and power.
I still believe, as I did during the campaign, that by the time he's finished he could easily be somewhere to the right of Attila the Hun if that's what he thinks it will take for him to be politically popular.

312 MandyManners  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 7:11:11am

re: #309 thedopefishlives

I didn't say his far-left tendencies went away altogether. I said they were tempered. He may want to do a whole lot of radical things, but the reality of the job has brought the realization that there's some things he shouldn't do - at least, not immediately. I mean, he did push the whole universal health care thing, so he's obviously a bit left of center.

I still maintain he is a Socialist if not a Communist.

313 MandyManners  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 7:11:53am

re: #312 MandyManners

I still maintain he is a Socialist if not a Communist.

Or, as they're now called, "Progressives". "Progs" for short.

314 cliffster  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 7:12:10am

re: #301 thedopefishlives

Especially now that he's on to our game. We can't have him running around exposing our super-sekrit world-breaking naval weapons platforms.

Plate tectonics? Mere child's play. Bwa ha ha ha!

315 Mad Al-Jaffee  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 7:13:01am

re: #314 cliffster

Plate tectonics? Mere child's play. Bwa ha ha ha!

Reminds me of the bumper sticker: Stop Continental Drift!

316 cliffster  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 7:14:28am

re: #315 Mad Al-Jaffee

Reminds me of the bumper sticker: Stop Continental Drift!

If I had seen that bumper sticker, I would have crashed into a tree laughing.

317 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 7:14:48am

re: #312 MandyManners

I still maintain he is a Socialist if not a Communist.

I think I'd draw the line at Communist, although the thuggish practices of the Chicago Machine would probably be a good comparison. I think he's equal parts heavy-hitting liberal and political opportunist; he has ideas for what he wants to accomplish, but he's also balancing that against the political numbers game, pushing the envelope as far as he can without breaking something.

318 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 7:15:34am

re: #315 Mad Al-Jaffee

Reminds me of the bumper sticker: Stop Continental Drift!

I think I would've drifted my Continental right into his rear bumper.

319 badger1970  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 7:15:39am

re: #313 MandyManners

No wonder some people dislike prog rock (Rush, APP, ELP(&P), Yes) //

320 sattv4u2  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 7:15:45am

re: #311 Spare O'Lake

by the time he's finished he could easily be somewhere to the right of Attila the Hun if that's what he thinks it will take for him to be politically popular.
Disagree
Unlike Clinton, who COULD see the shifting tides in American attitudes towards policy and bent with them, I beleive Obama really Really REALLY beleives he "knows" whats best for "us" and the country and will stay the course. He ignored the results in Virginia and New Jersey, and even though he's saying the right things about Massachusetts he couched it by blaming the result on the anger from the past 8 years

321 MandyManners  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 7:16:13am

re: #311 Spare O'Lake

You actually believe him to be more principled than I do.
I really believe that his sole agenda is to promote his own image and power.
I still believe, as I did during the campaign, that by the time he's finished he could easily be somewhere to the right of Attila the Hun if that's what he thinks it will take for him to be politically popular.

It's been a while since I posted this.

322 Mad Al-Jaffee  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 7:16:20am

I'm reading and enjoying the comments on that Boston Herald op ed.

323 MandyManners  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 7:16:48am

Gotta' reboot.

324 Sheila Broflovski  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 7:16:56am

Can anyone tell me what's the situation in LA in the Sunset/Mulholland area, around Beverly Glen?

325 Capitalist Tool  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 7:17:10am

re: #320 sattv4u2
Of course, it's Bush's fault.
Even Howard Dean knows that.

326 sattv4u2  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 7:18:31am

re: #325 Capitalist Tool

Of course, it's Bush's fault.
Even Howard Dean knows that.

Didn't Screamer Deaner come out yesterday and blame it on the "fact" that the dems weren't left ENOUGH!?!?

327 Capitalist Tool  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 7:19:36am

re: #312 MandyManners

I still maintain he is a Socialist if not a Communist.

He doesn't need to be a Communist.
He's packed his staff with enough Communists that he can just let them carry the torch.

328 sattv4u2  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 7:21:42am

re: #327 Capitalist Tool

He doesn't need to be a Communist.
He's packed his staff with enough Communists that he can just let them carry the torch hammer and sickle!.

ftfy
//

329 cliffster  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 7:22:05am

re: #321 MandyManners

It's been a while since I posted this.

Never gets old

330 Capitalist Tool  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 7:22:50am

re: #326 sattv4u2
On Tuesday night after it was clear that Brown was the winner, Howard Dean, on the Rachel Maddow show, explaining Coakley's loss, said (paraphrase) "It's nobody's fault, really, well... It's George W. Bush's fault..."

331 badger1970  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 7:23:23am

re: #327 Capitalist Tool

It's the advisers that tend to drive policy.

332 Spare O'Lake  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 7:23:44am

re: #320 sattv4u2

re: #321 MandyManners

"But the string's already broken and he doesn't really care
It keeps changin' fast and it don't last for long"
- John Denver

333 Capitalist Tool  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 7:24:33am

re: #331 badger1970

It's the advisers that tend to drive policy.


You get the gold star

334 Ericus58  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 7:32:43am

As the deck chairs on the S.S. Hopeychange get rearrainged, what course will be charted for the near future?

"Damn the torpedoes, full steam ahead"?

"A bit of a Nor'estener is blowin', head for the nearest port"?

"Has anyone seen a chart??"?

335 badger1970  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 7:34:10am

re: #334 Ericus58

Der fliegende Holländer, *queue Wagner's score*

336 cliffster  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 7:34:30am

So much for campaign finance reform

[Link: hosted.ap.org...]

337 albusteve  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 7:35:44am

During that same period of time, murders in the District fell by an astounding 25 percent, dropping from 186 to 140. The city only started allowing its citizens to own handguns for defense again in late 2008.

[Link: washingtontimes.com...]

told ya so...

338 Mad Al-Jaffee  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 7:37:45am
339 sattv4u2  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 7:38:50am

re: #334 Ericus58

As the deck chairs on the S.S. Hopeychange get rearrainged, what course will be charted for the near future?

"Damn the torpedoes, full steam ahead"?

"A bit of a Nor'estener is blowin', head for the nearest port"?

"Has anyone seen a chart??"?

ANSWER

"The torpedoes are aimed at the failures of the past administration, FULL SPEED AHEAD!"

340 laZardo  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 7:39:38am

Evening guys.

Whatever happened to Mitt Romney anyway?

341 cliffster  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 7:40:25am

Why does my dentist think I want an email newsletter from him?

342 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 7:42:45am

re: #341 cliffster

Why does my dentist think I want an email newsletter from him?

He's just giving you something to chew on.

343 sattv4u2  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 7:43:32am

re: #340 laZardo

Evening guys.

Whatever happened to Mitt Romney anyway?

Whaddaya mean?

From sources I have in Boston, lots of Brown stratergists were Romney backers from 2008
Romney has/is also been doing a full schedule of political rounds in places like Iowa and New Hampshire etc

344 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 7:43:42am

re: #341 cliffster

Why does my dentist think I want an email newsletter from him?

He's just filling you in.

345 Mad Al-Jaffee  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 7:43:44am

re: #342 Cannadian Club Akbar

He's just giving you something to chew on.

Maybe he wants you to brush up on his practice.

346 Mad Al-Jaffee  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 7:44:19am

re: #344 EmmmieG

He's just filling you in.

Looks like this thread is being pun drilled into the ground.

347 albusteve  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 7:44:44am

The Labor Department said Thursday that initial claims for unemployment insurance rose by 36,000 to a seasonally adjusted 482,000. Wall Street economists expected a small drop, according to Thomson Reuters.

Read more: [Link: www.sfgate.com...]

more jobs lost as the economy 'recovers'....and the real numbers are always higher than the Labor Depts estimates...every time

348 MrSilverDragon  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 7:45:04am

Good morning, stalwart lizard masses!
Let's go out and kick some... bad habits!

Seriously, folks.... hope you've gotten a great start to your day!

349 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 7:45:08am

re: #346 Mad Al-Jaffee

Looks like this thread is being pun drilled into the ground.

I'll cap it off.

350 Mad Al-Jaffee  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 7:45:33am

re: #349 Cannadian Club Akbar

I'll cap it off.

I found a dental newsletter on the floor. I'd like to know what it was doing there.

351 albusteve  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 7:45:40am

re: #346 Mad Al-Jaffee

Looks like this thread is being pun drilled into the ground.

brace yourself

352 jaunte  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 7:45:46am

re: #345 Mad Al-Jaffee

There is a molar to his story.

353 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 7:46:22am

This pun thread might be my crowning achievement for the week.

354 laZardo  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 7:46:43am

re: #343 sattv4u2

Whaddaya mean?

From sources I have in Boston, lots of Brown stratergists were Romney backers from 2008
Romney has/is also been doing a full schedule of political rounds in places like Iowa and New Hampshire etc

Just wanna know if he's drank the Tea is all.

355 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 7:46:53am

re: #352 jaunte

There is a molar to his story.

Wonder if the newsletter had a story about his canine.

356 jaunte  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 7:47:24am

re: #355 Cannadian Club Akbar

The wags here are incisive this morning.

357 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 7:47:39am

re: #353 EmmmieG

This pun thread might be my crowning achievement for the week.

You are full of wisdom.

358 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 7:47:46am

re: #356 jaunte

The wags here are incisive this morning.

Very biting comments, I agree.

359 laZardo  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 7:48:14am

re: #353 EmmmieG

This pun thread might be my crowning achievement for the week.

Not a crown, a pearly white tiara!

360 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 7:48:33am

SPIT!!

361 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 7:49:21am

re: #360 Cannadian Club Akbar

SPIT!!

Sorry, I ran out.
/

362 MandyManners  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 7:50:02am

re: #327 Capitalist Tool

He doesn't need to be a Communist.
He's packed his staff with enough Communists that he can just let them carry the torch.

Someone who believes in Capitalism wouldn't pack the agencies with Communists.

363 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 7:50:21am

I think we've managed to get to the root of the problem here. Lots of decay.

364 MandyManners  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 7:51:04am

re: #358 EmmmieG

Very biting comments, I agree.

Do we need to brace for more puns?

365 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 7:51:38am

re: #363 EmmmieG

I think we've managed to get to the root of the problem here. Lots of decay.

But we are building bridges.

366 MrSilverDragon  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 7:51:58am

re: #363 EmmmieG

I think we've managed to get to the root of the problem here. Lots of decay.

I hope we don't drill this thread into the ground, because I think pun threads are a gas...

367 cliffster  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 7:52:01am

re: #364 MandyManners

Do we need to brace for more puns?

You gassed it.

368 Mad Al-Jaffee  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 7:52:15am

re: #364 MandyManners

Do we need to brace for more puns?

You may have to root around for some more.

369 laZardo  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 7:52:16am

re: #365 Cannadian Club Akbar

But we are building bridges.

And making roots for canals.

370 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 7:52:22am

Did the newsletter advocate to bicuspid while it was cheap and Glenn Beck recommended?

371 Mad Al-Jaffee  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 7:53:01am

re: #369 laZardo

And making roots for canals.

Ether you are or you aren't.

372 vxbush  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 7:53:24am

I think you should all be packing for the bad puns.

373 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 7:54:01am

re: #371 Mad Al-Jaffee

Ether you are or you aren't.

Kinda scraping the bottom there.

374 cliffster  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 7:54:27am

re: #372 vxbush

I think you should all be packing for the bad puns.

Oh pun wide!

375 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 7:54:56am

SULCA BRUSH!!!
Ran out again.

376 albusteve  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 7:55:15am

The Lies of Obama
The accumulated weight of Obama’s deceit is overwhelming:

man, they do pile up...and people wonder where ODS comes from?

[Link: frontpagemag.com...]

377 Mad Al-Jaffee  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 7:55:16am

re: #374 cliffster

Oh pun wide!

These puns have really impacted me.

378 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 7:55:37am

Hope you paid your bill on the floss.

"Better spend an extra hundred or two on your son's braces, than leave it him in your will."

379 MrSilverDragon  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 7:56:06am

re: #374 cliffster

Oh pun wide!

Oh, that's just rongeurs. Very, very rongeurs.

380 Mad Al-Jaffee  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 7:56:59am

re: #379 MrSilverDragon

Oh, that's just rongeurs. Very, very rongeurs.

Picky

381 MandyManners  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 7:57:03am

re: #367 cliffster

You gassed it.

I'm laughing.

382 Mad Al-Jaffee  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 7:58:31am

Gotta go run an errand. I'll gum back later.

383 MandyManners  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 7:59:11am

re: #368 Mad Al-Jaffee

You may have to root around for some more.

I hope I'll have some goods one to pick from.

384 MandyManners  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 7:59:44am

re: #372 vxbush

I think you should all be packing for the bad puns.

You don't cotton to dental puns?

385 MandyManners  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 7:59:54am

re: #374 cliffster

Oh pun wide!

YOU WIN!

386 Capitalist Tool  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 7:59:56am

re: #362 MandyManners

Someone who believes in Capitalism wouldn't pack the agencies with Communists.


You make my case

387 MandyManners  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 8:00:44am

re: #382 Mad Al-Jaffee

Gotta go run an errand. I'll gum back later.

Chew don't say?

388 laZardo  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 8:00:58am

re: #385 MandyManners

Someone give him a plaque!

389 MandyManners  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 8:01:04am

re: #386 Capitalist Tool

You make my case

Is that what you kids call it nowadays?

390 vxbush  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 8:01:07am

re: #384 MandyManners

You don't cotton to dental puns?

Oh, I just think they're getting long in the tooth.

391 MandyManners  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 8:01:19am

re: #388 laZardo

Someone give him a plaque!

YOU WIN!

392 MandyManners  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 8:01:40am

re: #390 vxbush

Oh, I just think they're getting long in the tooth.

Eye know what you mean.

393 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 8:01:55am

Honestly... the bias in the media is so fucking evident that I wonder if these reporters even realize how transparent they are...

WASHINGTON (AP) -- The number of newly-laid off workers seeking jobless benefits unexpectedly rose last week, as the economy recovers at a slow and uneven pace.

Layoffs have slowed and the economy began to grow in last year's third quarter, but companies are reluctant to hire new workers. The unemployment rate is 10 percent and many economists expect it to increase in the coming months.

The Labor Department said Thursday that initial claims for unemployment insurance rose by 36,000 to a seasonally adjusted 482,000. Wall Street economists expected a small drop, according to Thomson Reuters.

Since when has down, down, down been called slow and uneven. Is that sort of like a plane crashing and the pilot comes on the intercom... "Well folks, we are going to hit the ground, but it will be a slow and uneven descent."

See ya on the ground!

394 Ben Hur  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 8:02:33am

Is it safe?

395 generalsparky  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 8:02:37am

re: #376 albusteve

Great article! It's nice to see his lies in a list and know that my feelings on President Obama are not completely irrational.

396 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 8:03:09am

re: #394 Ben Hur

Is it safe?

yes

397 MandyManners  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 8:03:09am

re: #393 Walter L. Newton

Honestly... the bias in the media is so fucking evident that I wonder if these reporters even realize how transparent they are...

Since when has down, down, down been called slow and uneven. Is that sort of like a plane crashing and the pilot comes on the intercom... "Well folks, we are going to hit the ground, but it will be a slow and uneven descent."

See ya on the ground!

Did you see Chrissy's melt-down from Brown's election?

398 MandyManners  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 8:03:27am

re: #394 Ben Hur

Is it safe?

Hi, Gandalf!

399 generalsparky  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 8:04:04am

re: #397 MandyManners

Did you see Chrissy's melt-down from Brown's election?

I heard about it from my parents. Kind of made me wish I had cable so I could have seen it.

400 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 8:04:37am

And this is going to chaff some folks... mainly leftists...

The U.S. Supreme Court on Thursday struck down key provisions of some of the central laws governing how the nation's political campaigns are financed just ahead of the pivotal 2010 midterm congressional primaries and election season.

By a 5-4 vote, the court ruled that corporations may spend freely to support or oppose candidates for president and Congress, overturning a 20-year-old decision that barred such contributions.

[Link: www.npr.org...]

Yep, the conservative movement is loosing any impact in this country.

401 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 8:04:54am

re: #397 MandyManners

Did you see Chrissy's melt-down from Brown's election?

Crissy who?

402 Ben Hur  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 8:04:59am

Gen. Honoré: Evacuate most vulnerable Haitians

CNN: Previously, you've mentioned "adapt and overcome." How difficult is it to achieve this in Haiti?

Honoré: You need the U.S. military. One airfield? Let's build two more. We adapt and overcome. USAID said, we have one airfield, how are we going to use it? They don't look at possibilities of building another one.

Building another airfield is something that should have been considered the first day. You can take a road and create another airfield. We have a capability to airdrop teams in with equipment to create airfields.

USAID said airdrops are unsafe, and it's disorderly to do airdrops. They were concerned that some would get food and others wouldn't. They started to drop five days after event -- the first drop of MREs (meals ready to eat).

CNN: So why did the U.S. wait before starting to drop supplies?

Honoré: If you don't have enough trucks, the optimal system is to use helicopters. But we don't have enough on the ground to get the job done. Ospreys, Marine planes, we have not seen them in use. There are some in Afghanistan, but not many there.

They fly like a plane, land like a helicopter and can also carry a lot of cargo. They can lift things and set them down. We spent 20 years developing that aircraft.

We don't have enough helicopters -- between the Coast Guard and the military, there are 60 helicopters in use now. Four days after Katrina, there were 200 helicopters flying in.

I don't know if the flow of supplies can keep up with demand, unless we evacuate the injured, elderly, pregnant women, babies, and the disabled. Hospitals will be overflowing with people who have injuries, there will be infections that will need treatment.

It is wishful thinking to add more hospitals. We need to think how these airplanes can leave with patients to the U.S. and other countries to be distributed to hospitals to stabilize them.

I am hoping that the State Department and the White House will start pushing for a U.N. resolution to start an evacuation plan for Haiti. It will need billions of dollars to sustain its people and to start its recovery.

CNN: How did the Israelis immediately set up a working hospital?

Honoré: Our military is fully deployed in Iraq and Afghanistan. The president didn't sign mobilization of reserves until Sunday. We are making right decisions, but making them too slowly to have an immediate impact on the ground. We decided [Tuesday] to open another airfield, they should have done that days ago.

Uh-oh.

403 MandyManners  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 8:06:06am

re: #399 generalsparky

I heard about it from my parents. Kind of made me wish I had cable so I could have seen it.

To borrow a word from the Progs, he had a serious case of "butt-hurt".

404 Cannadian Club Akbar  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 8:06:32am

re: #402 Ben Hur

I heard we're getting 200K new friends.

405 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 8:06:39am

re: #397 MandyManners

Did you see Chrissy's melt-down from Brown's election?

No, is there a link?

406 albusteve  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 8:07:22am

re: #395 generalsparky

Great article! It's nice to see his lies in a list and know that my feelings on President Obama are not completely irrational.

the next time you're accused of ODS, or shades of racism or whatever else some liberal trumps up for your dislike for BO, show them this list....watch them squirm

407 MandyManners  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 8:07:24am

re: #400 Walter L. Newton

And this is going to chaff some folks... mainly leftists...

[Link: www.npr.org...]

Yep, the conservative movement is loosing any impact in this country.

Excellent. Thanks for the link.

408 MandyManners  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 8:07:33am

re: #401 Cannadian Club Akbar

Crissy who?

Matthews.

409 MandyManners  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 8:08:52am

re: #402 Ben Hur

Gen. Honoré: Evacuate most vulnerable Haitians

Uh-oh.

I posted a link above about a unit of Marines expeditionary forces being diverted to Haiti instead of Afghanistan.

410 Daniel Ballard  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 8:09:29am

re: #310 CapeCoddah

That has the ring of truth to it.

411 albusteve  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 8:09:35am

re: #402 Ben Hur

Gen. Honoré: Evacuate most vulnerable Haitians

Uh-oh.

I suggested this the day it hit...get the women and children out of there no matter how hard or where they go...quit fucking around and just do it

412 generalsparky  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 8:09:53am

re: #403 MandyManners

To borrow a word from the Progs, he had a serious case of "butt-hurt".

My dad said he had to eventually turn it off because Chrissy was having such a hissy.

Love the Progs BTW. I hadn't heard that term until you started using it. Heck of a lot shorter than typing Progressives ;-)

413 badger1970  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 8:10:49am

re: #404 Cannadian Club Akbar

Can they play football? Ever since Katrina, a couple of high schools in central Texas became powerhouses.

On a more serious note, I'm assuming that once they taste the good life compared to the hell from whence they came, repatriation is out of the question?

414 MandyManners  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 8:11:11am

re: #409 MandyManners

The Pentagon announced Wednesday that it would send a second Marine unit to Haiti to support what has become an expanding relief effort for the Defense Department, deepening the American military’s role there.

About 4,000 marines and sailors from the 24th Marine Expeditionary Unit, Camp Lejeune, N.C., who were scheduled to leave for Afghanistan this week, will instead steam to Haiti to support humanitarian relief operations. The unit will still continue on to the Arabian Sea for its scheduled deployment in the coming weeks.

But the decision to re-route the Marines points up the depth of the need for humanitarian assistance in Haiti, which experienced a severe aftershock Wednesday. It also presents the Pentagon with a delicate balancing act, since the already-overstretched US military can ill afford to get mired in a security-and-stabilization mission.

The US must do as much as it can while taking care not to create a false expectation, says Tony Cordesman, an analyst at the Center for Strategic and International Studies, a think tank in Washington.

“There are strong reasons not to deploy US forces to Haiti because if you do, you get a mission of dependency,” says Mr. Cordesman. “We have to be very, very careful about our rhetoric; amidst a crisis, you want to assure people we will do what we can, but we cannot do what we can’t.”


SNIP

415 cliffster  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 8:11:40am

re: #393 Walter L. Newton

Honestly... the bias in the media is so fucking evident that I wonder if these reporters even realize how transparent they are...

In a word: Nope.

416 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 8:11:40am

re: #402 Ben Hur

Gen. Honoré: Evacuate most vulnerable Haitians

Ok, these cheap shots on Obama are worthless. Fist off, he's not George Bush, if he was, then this article could have some validity. Second, Obama is not a conservative if he was, then this article could have some validity. And thirdly, Obama is doing everthing he can, in the most transparent possible way, if he had a "R" after his name then this article could have some validity.

Straw man.

417 MandyManners  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 8:11:45am

re: #405 Walter L. Newton

No, is there a link?

I've not seen it on the Internet. Maybe MSNBC has one. Lemme' look.

418 generalsparky  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 8:11:57am

re: #406 albusteve

the next time you're accused of ODS, or shades of racism or whatever else some liberal trumps up for your dislike for BO, show them this list...watch them squirm

Saving it to my favorites.

419 MandyManners  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 8:12:54am

re: #412 generalsparky

My dad said he had to eventually turn it off because Chrissy was having such a hissy.

Love the Progs BTW. I hadn't heard that term until you started using it. Heck of a lot shorter than typing Progressives ;-)

Reminds me of Trogs as in Troglodytes.

420 Walter L. Newton  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 8:13:07am

re: #406 albusteve

Just a heads up, I'm not sure if Charles likes links to Front Page Magazine.

421 Darth Vader Gargoyle  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 8:13:18am

re: #337 albusteve

During that same period of time, murders in the District fell by an astounding 25 percent, dropping from 186 to 140. The city only started allowing its citizens to own handguns for defense again in late 2008.

[Link: washingtontimes.com...]

told ya so...

Nothing gives criminals pause like the thought of armed citizenry.

422 _RememberTonyC  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 8:15:27am

Howdy Honcos ....

Is Massachusetts a racist state filled with redneck teabaggers because it elected a Republican who has issues with the agenda the POTUS is pushing?

Just askin'

423 albusteve  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 8:15:41am

A day after their embarrassing loss in Massachusetts, splintered Democrats pledged to refocus their attention on jobs and the economy, and to draw sharper contrasts with Republicans, as they scramble to find a strategy to quell the populist anger that threatens the party's standing in the November elections.

crazy donks, running around in circles now....maybe they should explain the Stimulus failure first

[Link: www.washingtonpost.com...]

424 generalsparky  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 8:16:40am

re: #419 MandyManners

Reminds me of Trogs as in Troglodytes.

You are terrible Mandy! Wanna be my new BFF?

;-)

425 MandyManners  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 8:17:19am

re: #405 Walter L. Newton

No, is there a link?

There are others.


426 MandyManners  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 8:17:43am

re: #424 generalsparky

You are terrible Mandy! Wanna be my new BFF?

;-)

That'd be nice!

427 Capitalist Tool  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 8:17:43am

re: #421 rwdflynavy

Nothing gives criminals pause like the thought of armed citizenry.


Tyrants prefer unarmed peasants

428 subsailor68  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 8:18:17am

Morning all! I have to admit I get a kick out of General Honore. I loved his comment to a reporter in New Orleans who asked an inane question and didn't want to let it go. The general finally said, "Son, you're stuck on stupid."

And when he and his guys showed up, there seemed to be some concern on the part of the gangs and looters for some reason.

General, can you tell us what you did to quell the looting?

Hell, son, I don't know. All I did was show up, light a cigar, and say "Hi fellas, wanna play?"

429 albusteve  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 8:19:04am

re: #420 Walter L. Newton

Just a heads up, I'm not sure if Charles likes links to Front Page Magazine.

I have no clue

430 Capitalist Tool  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 8:19:34am

re: #397 MandyManners

Did you see Chrissy's melt-down from Brown's election?


Actually saw the Matthews poutfest

431 laZardo  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 8:19:34am

Headin to bed. Nighty.

432 generalsparky  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 8:19:51am

re: #422 _RememberTonyC

Howdy Honcos ...

Is Massachusetts a racist state filled with redneck teabaggers because it elected a Republican who has issues with the agenda the POTUS is pushing?

Just askin'

I am pretty sure I read that the completely sane and always rational Keith Olbermann said something similar.

433 Capitalist Tool  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 8:20:35am

re: #422 _RememberTonyC

Howdy Honcos ...

Is Massachusetts a racist state filled with redneck teabaggers because it elected a Republican who has issues with the agenda the POTUS is pushing?

Just askin'


Sure.
That 'splains it

434 MandyManners  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 8:21:12am

re: #430 Capitalist Tool

Actually saw the Matthews poutfest

No. 425?

I saw another clip that showed him in a shirt (brown?) slouching in a chair with a look as if his dog just got hit by a tractor-trailer.

435 Donna Ballard  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 8:22:00am

Good Morning and Happy Thursday everyone!

436 liberandos  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 8:22:26am

Let's get back to the days when we talked (wrote) about what a scum bag John Edwards is, and how the MSM covered for him.

Aaah, the good ole days....

437 MandyManners  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 8:27:46am

re: #436 liberandos

Let's get back to the days when we talked (wrote) about what a scum bag John Edwards is, and how the MSM covered for him.

Aaah, the good ole days...

I wish he'd go away.

438 Mad Al-Jaffee  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 8:28:44am

re: #437 MandyManners

I wish he'd go away.

I wish he had been chosen for Obama's veep choice!

439 lawhawk  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 8:30:49am

re: #402 Ben Hur

Gen. Honore is behind the facts on the ground. The US has already opened a second runway just outside the city to expand relief, and they're working with the DR to expand their capabilities as well. And the US keeps sending more ships to provide relief.

That's not to say that there haven't been problems, but in a country where infrastructure is lacking to begin with, and what little infrastructure was there was damaged, the obstacles to overcome are tremendous.

440 lawhawk  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 8:32:05am

re: #437 MandyManners

He can't go away fast enough - admitting what everyone already knew - that Rielle's kid was his. It gives more credence to the Game Change book sections that dealt with the Edwards' family dysfunction.

441 The Sanity Inspector  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 8:38:55am

Turkey's first gay honor killing: man travels 900 km to shoot his gay activist son.

442 Obdicut  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 9:03:43am

re: #441 The Sanity Inspector

Soon to be given a parade in his honor in Nigeria.

443 Sacred Plants  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 9:50:46am

Not to mention that rogue innovations make their way by gradually killing proponents and opponents alike.


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