Tea Party ‘Hero’ Arrested For Rape, Stolen Grenade Launcher Discovered

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A former Marine and current member of the Oathkeepers militia group, who was a featured speaker at the July 4th tea party in Oklahoma, has been arrested on suspicion of rape — and when his home was searched, police discovered a grenade launcher stolen from a California Army base: Domestic Terrorist In Texoma.

A Stephens County man is behind bars on a rape charge.

“We come home and those bastards want to talk about how we’re domestic terrorists and a threat to this country. It makes me so angry,” said Charles Dyer, who has been accused of committing rape.

Dyer has been charged with first degree rape. When police searched Dyer’s home for evidence on that charge, they found a grenade launcher that matched the description of one of three that were reportedly stolen from an Army post in California.

More incriminating evidence against Dyer has surfaced in a YouTube video. The video shows Dyer, a former U.S. Marine, talking proudly about domestic terrorism. “Join the military?”, said Dyer. “Depends on what you want to do with it. Me? Im going to use my training and become one of those domestic terrorists that you’re so afraid of from the DHS reports.”

The video of Dyer on YouTube shows him with some friends at a paintball facility in California. Dyer’s comments in the video are not only powerful but disturbing and show his contempt for authority.

“I’m certainly not going to be hiding from my command anymore. I’m not hiding from ATF. Not hiding from FBI. Any organization. If they want to come get me I’m not going to be afraid,” Dyer said. “Patriots we are not overpowered. If we united under one banner and fight for our children’s liberity and the constitution, our resolve is invincible to any standing army,” Dyer said.

Here’s video of Dyer speaking at the Oklahoma tea party, about his duty to uphold his “oath to the Constitution” and resist the federal government.

Youtube Video

UPDATE at 1/20/10 10:55:46 pm:

And here’s the video mentioned in the news story above, in which Dyer talks about using his military training “to become a domestic terrorist.”

Youtube Video

(Hat tip: pnw_pirate.)

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874 comments
1 Varek Raith  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 6:12:59pm

Gee wilikers, that DHS memo seems, I don't know, kinda...accurate?

2 reine.de.tout  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 6:13:30pm

re: #1 Varek Raith

Gee wilikers, that DHS memo seems, I don't know, kinda...accurate?

Sure does seem so.

3 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 6:13:32pm

The guy had an M-203? That's bad. Stealing military weapons can only be taken as a sign of preparation to use force against the government.

4 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 6:15:54pm

re: #1 Varek Raith

Gee wilikers, that DHS memo seems, I don't know, kinda...accurate?

Quite Concur.

5 brookly red  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 6:15:59pm

1 down... 29,999,999 to go.

6 Varek Raith  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 6:16:38pm

re: #5 brookly red

?

7 jamesfirecat  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 6:17:15pm

Lucy you gots some sploding to do!


Sorry the fact that it was a grenade launcher made me unable to help myself. Deeply glad that this guy got arrested before he had a chance to use that thing...

8 Racer X  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 6:17:16pm

"Hero" ?

9 jaunte  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 6:17:31pm

Scumbag.

An arrest on charges of rape of a child and forcible sodomy has led to a complaint being filed in United States District Court.

Charles Alan Dyer, 29, of Marlow, was arrested for the alleged rape and forcible sodomy of a child. During the investigation into the allegations, the Stephens County Sheriff’s Office obtained a warrant to collect DNA evidence. During the search the sheriff’s deputies noted several firearms and a device believed to be a Colt M-203, 40-millimeter grenade launcher, a complaint filed in the United States District Court of Western Oklahoma by Alcohol, Firearms and Tobacco Special Agent Brett Williams said

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10 brookly red  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 6:18:16pm

re: #6 Varek Raith

?

there are a lot of TPers...

11 SteveC  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 6:18:27pm

What in the flying hell?

Some of these morans are starting to really scare me.

12 Sheila Broflovski  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 6:18:41pm

That guy standing behind him holding the umbrella, looks like he wants to take the umbrella and shove it up dyer's ass.

13 Varek Raith  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 6:19:11pm

re: #10 brookly red

there are a lot of TPers...

OH, I'm slooowww, tonight. :)

14 jaunte  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 6:19:28pm

Note this from the previous link:

Deputies searched the National Crime Information Center database, according to the complaint, and found that the grenade launcher was one stolen from Fort Irwin, Calif., in 2006. The NCIC also indicated that there were two other grenade launchers stolen from Fort Irwin as they were being transported to Iraq.
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15 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 6:19:42pm

Hey, I got an idea! Let's all wave Tea Party revolution flags at Republican events! Brilliant!
/

16 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 6:20:10pm

re: #9 jaunte

Scumbag.

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[Link: www.duncanbanner.com...]

If he's a child rapist then he's in for a world of pain. Such men are hated in prison. They're frequently attacked and sometimes killed.

17 SteveC  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 6:20:13pm

re: #12 Alouette

That guy standing behind him holding the umbrella, looks like he wants to take the umbrella and shove it up dyer's ass.

That's probably a common feeling. Now if he were to shove it up Dyer's ass and then open it...

18 ryannon  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 6:20:30pm

re: #15 Killgore Trout

Hey, I got an idea! Let's all wave Tea Party revolution flags at Republican events! Brilliant!
/

I can haz umbrilla too?

19 LotharBot  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 6:20:48pm
"those bastards want to talk about how we’re domestic terrorists and a threat to this country."

Dude, you stole a GRENADE LAUNCHER. Yes, you are a threat to this country -- and to those of us who love it.

Everyone who agrees with him should get psychiatric before they end up doing something stupid. (He's already done some stupid things, and will hopefully get that help while he's in lockup.)

20 PhillyPretzel  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 6:21:00pm

re: #17 SteveC
OUCH

21 brookly red  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 6:21:26pm

re: #16 Dark_Falcon

If he's a child rapist then he's in for a world of pain. Such men are hated in prison. They're frequently attacked and sometimes killed.

the one Croakley wanted to let go has not been attacked... just sayin

22 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 6:21:27pm

"BUT BUT he was set up by BUREAUC HUSSEIN OSAMA n0BOMBa!!11" conspiracy theorists in 3...2....1.....

23 Racer X  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 6:21:28pm

re: #15 Killgore Trout

Hey, I got an idea! Let's all wave Tea Party revolution flags at Republican events! Brilliant!
/

Please tell me you're not going to attend a Tea Party and then start shooting up the place just to make a point.

24 Varek Raith  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 6:22:24pm

re: #23 Racer X

I don't know, that post just sounds way too harsh...

25 albusteve  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 6:23:14pm

re: #23 Racer X

Please tell me you're not going to attend a Tea Party and then start shooting up the place just to make a point.

I support KTs stealth trip into the dark that time...say what you want

26 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 6:23:17pm

Please remember that this "patriot" who's being applauded at a Tea Party for resisting the government stole that grenade launcher to be used against Americans. It pisses me off to no end that we still have people here making excuses for this. This is not going to end well.

27 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 6:24:14pm

I'm sure he only means all that metaphorically. He's just so angry about being painted as a domestic terrorist....

///The rape I can't quite think of a good excuse for right now. Or, probably, at any future time.

28 palomino  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 6:24:48pm

Read the last paragraph. This "hero/rapist (alleged)" talks about taking on a standing army, for Christ's sake.

Do you think he means North Korea, or maybe something closer to home?

There's wicked bad craziness in teabag land and it draws massive cheering crowds. Glad CJ points this stuff out, because we ignore it at our own peril.

29 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 6:24:56pm

re: #26 Killgore Trout

Please remember that this "patriot" who's being applauded at a Tea Party for resisting the government stole that grenade launcher to be used against Americans. It pisses me off to no end that we still have people here making excuses for this. This is not going to end well.

To be fair, Killgore, no one will be making excuses for this slimeball. He's a child rapist and even his Tea Party crowd will throw him under the bus like the garbage he is.

30 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 6:25:10pm

Besides! The Islamofascists are the real threat! We'd probably hardly miss the people this guy might manage to kill!

//OK, I'll shut up now. This sort of thing just makes me a little twitchy.

31 albusteve  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 6:25:15pm

re: #26 Killgore Trout

Please remember that this "patriot" who's being applauded at a Tea Party for resisting the government stole that grenade launcher to be used against Americans. It pisses me off to no end that we still have people here making excuses for this. This is not going to end well.

the fringe is getting frisky, but I have to believe they will harshly dealt with as time goes on

32 brookly red  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 6:25:43pm

re: #25 albusteve

I support KTs stealth trip into the dark that time...say what you want

... witnesses say the man shouted something about Ron Paul before discharging the weapon repeatedly into his own feet....

33 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 6:25:56pm

re: #23 Racer X
I seriously don't know what to say about that accusation. Go ahead and side with the child raping grenade launcher guy. I'm sure it'll work out fine for you.

34 recusancy  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 6:26:20pm

re: #29 Dark_Falcon

To be fair, Killgore, no one will be making excuses for this slimeball. He's a child rapist and even his Tea Party crowd will throw him under the bus like the garbage he is.

They'd be defending him if he didn't have the child rapist charge.

35 Kruk  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 6:26:33pm

re: #27 SanFranciscoZionist

I'm sure he only means all that metaphorically. He's just so angry about being painted as a domestic terrorist...

///The rape I can't quite think of a good excuse for right now. Or, probably, at any future time.

I never stop being amazed at the many and creative ways people do in fact justify rape, including the rape of a child. *spits*

36 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 6:27:06pm

re: #12 Alouette

That guy standing behind him holding the umbrella, looks like he wants to take the umbrella and shove it up dyer's ass.

Ya think? I think he's trying to look serious and patriotic. Or possibly constipated.

37 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 6:27:42pm

re: #15 Killgore Trout

Hey, I got an idea! Let's all wave Tea Party revolution flags at Republican events! Brilliant!
/

If you object, it just means you hate Republicans and lower taxes!

///OK, I can't stop.

38 Decatur Deb  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 6:27:49pm

re: #29 Dark_Falcon

To be fair, Killgore, no one will be making excuses for this slimeball. He's a child rapist and even his Tea Party crowd will throw him under the bus like the garbage he is.

Unless they build a myth that the charges and search are a setup.

39 Racer X  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 6:28:06pm

re: #33 Killgore Trout

I seriously don't know what to say about that accusation. Go ahead and side with the child raping grenade launcher guy. I'm sure it'll work out fine for you.

Please.

I'm not siding with this Dickhead at all. I made a snide remark. I apologize.

40 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 6:28:11pm

re: #16 Dark_Falcon

If he's a child rapist then he's in for a world of pain. Such men are hated in prison. They're frequently attacked and sometimes killed.

Even felons have standards. And they enforce them more rigorously than the outside world.

41 brookly red  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 6:28:50pm

re: #33 Killgore Trout

I seriously don't know what to say about that accusation. Go ahead and side with the child raping grenade launcher guy. I'm sure it'll work out fine for you.

Come on KT one lone nut does not a movement make... shall shall we discredit all Muslims cause one tried to blow up a plane on Christmas day?

Shall we?

42 Kruk  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 6:29:16pm

re: #38 Decatur Deb

Unless they build a myth that the charges and search are a setup.

And that the child involved was a willing agent of the Government. I was I was kidding.

43 albusteve  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 6:29:28pm

re: #34 recusancy

They'd be defending him if he didn't have the child rapist charge.

you really think the worst of Americans eh?...I think you are wrong, but if they did they would be a small minority...the country is not about to explode into revolution no matter what you think...bet me

44 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 6:29:35pm

re: #28 palomino

Read the last paragraph. This "hero/rapist (alleged)" talks about taking on a standing army, for Christ's sake.

Do you think he means North Korea, or maybe something closer to home?

There's wicked bad craziness in teabag land and it draws massive cheering crowds. Glad CJ points this stuff out, because we ignore it at our own peril.

I say we send him to North Korea and see how he does. As a test run.

45 Kruk  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 6:29:43pm

re: #42 Kruk

And that the child involved was a willing agent of the Government. I was I was kidding.

I wish I was kidding, rather

46 jamesfirecat  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 6:29:46pm

re: #40 SanFranciscoZionist

Even felons have standards. And they enforce them more rigorously than the outside world.

Huh almost seems like the fewer principles you have the more you take the remaining ones seriously.

No idea what that means outside this given context...

47 Racer X  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 6:29:58pm

re: #41 brookly red

Come on KT one lone nut does not a movement make... shall shall we discredit all Muslims cause one tried to blow up a plane on Christmas day?

Shall we?

Oh snap!

48 ryannon  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 6:30:37pm

re: #40 SanFranciscoZionist

Even felons have standards. And they enforce them more rigorously than the outside world.

Felons: the new moral minority.

49 jamesfirecat  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 6:31:11pm

re: #43 albusteve

you really think the worst of Americans eh?...I think you are wrong, but if they did they would be a small minority...the country is not about to explode into revolution no matter what you think...bet me

There were plenty of people who defended/supported Scott Roeder, and he actually got around to killing someone...

50 jaunte  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 6:31:17pm

re: #38 Decatur Deb

Unless they build a myth that the charges and search are a setup.

I'm sure the feds are even now busily programming a bunch of seven year old Mata Haris to go out and entrap susceptible Tea Partiers.

51 brookly red  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 6:31:54pm

re: #47 Racer X

brookly knows how to throw down.

52 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 6:32:04pm

re: #38 Decatur Deb

Unless they build a myth that the charges and search are a setup.

Wait for it. I mean, not here, thank God (well, mostly Charles). But wait for it.

53 jamesfirecat  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 6:32:06pm

re: #50 jaunte

I'm sure the feds are even now busily programming a bunch of seven year old Mata Haris to go out and entrap susceptible Tea Partiers.

I bet she wasn't even a young girl, I bet she was actually a midget!

54 albusteve  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 6:32:10pm

re: #49 jamesfirecat

There were plenty of people who defended/supported Scott Roeder, and he actually got around to killing someone...

how many is plenty?...more than were repulsed by the whole thing?

55 recusancy  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 6:32:19pm

re: #43 albusteve

I think the worst of the teabagging revolutionary wannabe's.

56 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 6:32:59pm

re: #41 brookly red

Come on KT one lone nut does not a movement make... shall shall we discredit all Muslims cause one tried to blow up a plane on Christmas day?

Shall we?

How many lone nuts make a movement? For now, let's focus on this one.

57 Decatur Deb  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 6:33:03pm

re: #45 Kruk

I wish I was kidding, rather

At some distance from the crime, the reality of the victim falls away. A similar movement in the Janet Reno years had no trouble justifying Koresh.

58 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 6:33:16pm

re: #38 Decatur Deb

Unless they build a myth that the charges and search are a setup.

If they do that, then the teabaggers will find themselves marginalized rather quickly and their ranks will shrink greatly. Child rape is a crime for which Americans have no tolerance. They will attack anyone credibly accused of it and will often attack their defenders as well. Some will advance conspiracy theories briefly but then it will be decided that "the movement is biggest than any one man" and he'll be under the bus.

59 albusteve  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 6:34:03pm

re: #56 SanFranciscoZionist

How many lone nuts make a movement? For now, let's focus on this one.

54% of voters chose Obama...anything is possible

60 brookly red  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 6:34:28pm

re: #56 SanFranciscoZionist

How many lone nuts make a movement? For now, let's focus on this one.

no I grow weary of the guilt by association game...

61 andres  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 6:34:36pm

re: #11 SteveC

What in the flying hell?

Some of these morans are starting to really scare me.

Even on the underground hell, this is disturbing. Unfortunately, this is the natural path for what's been happening. I've been fearing this for some time now, and this guy just gave me one more reason to be extra careful.

62 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 6:35:20pm

re: #58 Dark_Falcon

Child rape is a crime for which Americans have no tolerance.

Except for an alarming number of people who work in Hollywood, she muttered...

63 albusteve  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 6:35:34pm

re: #60 brookly red

no I grow weary of the guilt by association game...

so do I, but that conspiracy is snowballing out of control...what can you do?

64 jamesfirecat  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 6:35:39pm

re: #54 albusteve

how many is plenty?...more than were repulsed by the whole thing?

No but in my opinion "plenty" in this case for supporting someone who murdered an innocent man is "more than one" if you want I can dig up some proof in past LGF posts like this [Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

65 brookly red  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 6:35:59pm

re: #62 SanFranciscoZionist

Except for an alarming number of people who work in Hollywood, she muttered...

and an AG in Boston....

66 jaunte  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 6:36:10pm

I wonder where the other grenade launchers are now.

67 brookly red  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 6:36:34pm

re: #63 albusteve

so do I, but that conspiracy is snowballing out of control...what can you do?

man up?

68 Digital Display  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 6:36:54pm

Magic destroyed the Pacers tonight...98-109 jeez

69 albusteve  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 6:36:59pm

re: #64 jamesfirecat

No but in my opinion "plenty" in this case for supporting someone who murdered an innocent man is "more than one" if you want I can dig up some proof in past LGF posts like this [Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

don't bother yourself

70 Decatur Deb  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 6:37:09pm

re: #58 Dark_Falcon

If they do that, then the teabaggers will find themselves marginalized rather quickly and their ranks will shrink greatly. Child rape is a crime for which Americans have no tolerance. They will attack anyone credibly accused of it and will often attack their defenders as well. Some will advance conspiracy theories briefly but then it will be decided that "the movement is biggest than any one man" and he'll be under the bus.

I have no use for the TPs, but I see this guy as a few leaps farther into the crazy. Since the 3 M203s went missing in 2006, he either stumbled into one, or there is a pre-Obama radical thread in play.

71 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 6:37:44pm

re: #41 brookly red

Come on KT one lone nut does not a movement make...

Google: Oathkeeper Tea Party

Youtube: Oathkeeper Tea Party
They are very involved and accepted in the Tea Party movement. It gets tiresome to keep pointing this out.

72 SteveC  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 6:38:14pm

Illinois Insolvent?

As Illinois' fiscal crisis deepens, the word "bankruptcy" is creeping more and more into the public discourse.

"We would like all the stakeholders of Illinois to recognize how close the state is to bankruptcy or insolvency," says Laurence Msall, president of the Civic Federation, a fiscal watchdog in Chicago.

The page could load an ad page first. Just click "skip this ad" to advance to the story.

73 jamesfirecat  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 6:38:15pm

re: #66 jaunte

I wonder where the other grenade launchers are now.

Capone's glove compartment?

74 Racer X  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 6:38:30pm

Granted there are many idiots aligned with the Tea Party crowd. Some of the leaders are shady.

But I will say right here, right now, that the majority of the people who are attracted to the Tea Party movement are decent Americans concerned about the future of this nation. IMHO. They may be a bit naive about who they are aligned with, but that does not make them equal to the assholes.

I appreciate Charles and Killgore pointing out the derelicts in the Tea Party movement. I get peeved when it leads to "all Tea Partyers are scumbags" talk.

75 albusteve  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 6:38:50pm

re: #67 brookly red

man up?

don't know...alot of it I dismiss out of hand, it's so ridiculous...but then some of the shit sticks, depending on the effort put into it

76 RogueOne  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 6:39:44pm

re: #71 Killgore Trout

Child rapists are accepted members in good standing within the TP movement?

77 brookly red  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 6:39:57pm

re: #71 Killgore Trout

Google: Oathkeeper Tea Party

Youtube: Oathkeeper Tea Party
They are very involved and accepted in the Tea Party movement. It gets tiresome to keep pointing this out.

some people that are involved in organized crime are of Italian decent... wanna go there?

78 albusteve  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 6:40:04pm

re: #70 Decatur Deb

I have no use for the TPs, but I see this guy as a few leaps farther into the crazy. Since the 3 M203s went missing in 2006, he either stumbled into one, or there is a pre-Obama radical thread in play.

how much ammo does he have?...that's the question...otherwise the thing is useless

79 Kruk  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 6:40:45pm

re: #41 brookly red

Come on KT one lone nut does not a movement make... shall shall we discredit all Muslims cause one tried to blow up a plane on Christmas day?

Shall we?


How about this:

"The majority right-wingers are not domestic terrorism. However, the majority of politically motivated bombings and shootings in the United States (i.e domestic terrorism) have been committed by right-wingers. Until we can reliably tell which right-wingers are dangerous and which are not, or until the majority of right-wingers isolate and turn in the extremists amoung themselves, all right-wingers must be prepared to accept extra scrutiny and suspicion."

Hmmm. Sounds familiar somehow.

80 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 6:40:56pm

re: #66 jaunte

I wonder where the other grenade launchers are now.

Let's hope we don't find out the hard way.

81 SteveC  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 6:40:57pm

re: #53 jamesfirecat

I bet she wasn't even a young girl, I bet she was actually a midget!

The International Society of Government Employed Little People are out for blood now. You've discovered their secret!

82 Decatur Deb  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 6:41:00pm

re: #78 albusteve

how much ammo does he have?...that's the question...otherwise the thing is useless

Makes a nice bong.

83 recusancy  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 6:41:36pm

re: #77 brookly red

some people that are involved in organized crime are of Italian decent... wanna go there?

Italians don't accept them with open arms. You're stretching quite a bit to try to make a point.

84 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 6:41:44pm

Just two weeks ago Tea Party and Oathkeepers......

Armed Protest in New Mexcio

85 RogueOne  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 6:41:45pm

re: #80 Dark_Falcon

Let's hope we don't find out the hard way.

They're in the hands of the local Oklahoma sheriff. I'm not sure that makes me feel all that much safer.

86 ryannon  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 6:41:53pm

re: #74 Racer X

Granted there are many idiots aligned with the Tea Party crowd. Some of the leaders are shady.

But I will say right here, right now, that the majority of the people who are attracted to the Tea Party movement are decent Americans concerned about the future of this nation. IMHO. They may be a bit naive about who they are aligned with, but that does not make them equal to the assholes.

I appreciate Charles and Killgore pointing out the derelicts in the Tea Party movement. I get peeved when it leads to "all Tea Partyers are scumbags" talk.


The 20th-century historical precedents for these type of movements is not encouraging. Even if they attract their share decent people in their inception, they tend to end badly. Very badly.

87 albusteve  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 6:42:12pm

re: #82 Decatur Deb

Makes a nice bong.

that's about it...maybe a paperweight

88 keloyd  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 6:42:15pm

re: #62 SanFranciscoZionist

Except for an alarming number of people who work in Hollywood, she muttered...

This is why I wait a friend of mine wait, this random person I met and chatted with has no compunction at all about pinching movies from various websites or torrents. The way dozens of Hollywood big shots fell all over themselves defending whats-his-name in France was a bit shocking to someone who is not easily shocked. Any idea of the de facto age of consent in France? In practice, it's puberty from what I hear, though Wikipedia put it at 15 iirc. What the hell has he been up to these last 3 decades?

89 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 6:42:30pm

re: #78 albusteve

how much ammo does he have?...that's the question...otherwise the thing is useless

Ammo can be fabricated. The launcher is the hard part. Some rounds, like smoke and buckshot can be procured commercially.

90 brookly red  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 6:43:24pm

re: #79 Kruk

How about this:

"The majority right-wingers are not domestic terrorism. However, the majority of politically motivated bombings and shootings in the United States (i.e domestic terrorism) have been committed by right-wingers. Until we can reliably tell which right-wingers are dangerous and which are not, or until the majority of right-wingers isolate and turn in the extremists amoung themselves, all right-wingers must be prepared to accept extra scrutiny and suspicion."

Hmmm. Sounds familiar somehow.

sounds like profiling to me...

91 albusteve  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 6:43:39pm

re: #89 Dark_Falcon

Ammo can be fabricated. The launcher is the hard part. Some rounds, like smoke and buckshot can be procured commercially.

whatever...where's the ammo?

92 Racer X  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 6:44:06pm

re: #90 brookly red

sounds like profiling to me...

Imagine that.

93 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 6:44:10pm

re: #91 albusteve

whatever...where's the ammo?

I don't know.

94 jamesfirecat  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 6:44:14pm

re: #85 RogueOne

They're in the hands of the local Oklahoma sheriff. I'm not sure that makes me feel all that much safer.

Maybe he'll use it to fight vampires? Hell I think I've actually already seen trailers for that movie...

95 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 6:45:16pm

re: #78 albusteve

how much ammo does he have?...that's the question...otherwise the thing is useless

Well, that's all right then...

96 brookly red  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 6:45:23pm

re: #83 recusancy

Italians don't accept them with open arms. You're stretching quite a bit to try to make a point.

and so you say the tea party people openly accept this nut? I don't see them raising donations for his defense...

97 freetoken  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 6:45:33pm

There is an article on the DailyPaul forums about Dyer, dated the 17th.

Yes, you guessed it... in the comments:

wow
Submitted by rprevolutionist on Sun, 01/17/2010 - 22:35.
the person that posted that youtube was the guy that has judged everyone as wrong. I was not able to post a comment on youtube.
These are the self righteous people that can't see beyond their own shallow thoughts. The government programming is so embedded in their minds. The poster has already judged this man and found him guilty with no evidence. Our society is too dumbed down to make any logical decision.
Personally I will continue the fight through 2012, then I quit. Then I get off the grid and let the great fallen country of fools fall.


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I found this ...
Submitted by bdunn on Sun, 01/17/2010 - 22:03.
Here's a video discussing his arrest...not exactly in his behalf - also some bad language.
Info from the video claims it was for rape and molestation...they also found a grenade launcher in his home? He claims he was "framed". Who knows the truth at this point???


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Yeah... "who knows the truth"? Yeah, right.

98 Kruk  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 6:45:51pm

re: #90 brookly red

sounds like profiling to me...

Which exactly what many right-wingers scream for whenever someone with a dark skin or beard is involved in these sort of things. White male, not so much.

99 Decatur Deb  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 6:46:16pm

re: #89 Dark_Falcon

Ammo can be fabricated. The launcher is the hard part. Some rounds, like smoke and buckshot can be procured commercially.

40mm stuff is pretty hard to make, and very finicky (about a 10% malfunction rate at one time). It's fairly hard to steal HE in peacetime, but all bets are off in deployments.

100 albusteve  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 6:46:18pm

re: #93 Dark_Falcon

I don't know.

well if he doesn't have any, it sort of renders the whole thing useless...tough to overthrow the feds with no grenades....just another crackpot

101 brookly red  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 6:47:32pm

re: #98 Kruk

Which exactly what many right-wingers scream for whenever someone with a dark skin or beard is involved in these sort of things. White male, not so much.

so 2 wrong make a right huh?

102 albusteve  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 6:47:41pm

re: #95 SanFranciscoZionist

Well, that's all right then...

not hardly...it's a serious felony and he will be prosecuted non the less...as far as blowing something up, it's just not gonna happen

103 brainwizard73  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 6:47:45pm

re: #74 Racer X

Granted there are many idiots aligned with the Tea Party crowd. Some of the leaders are shady.

But I will say right here, right now, that the majority of the people who are attracted to the Tea Party movement are decent Americans concerned about the future of this nation. IMHO. They may be a bit naive about who they are aligned with, but that does not make them equal to the assholes.

I appreciate Charles and Killgore pointing out the derelicts in the Tea Party movement. I get peeved when it leads to "all Tea Partyers are scumbags" talk.

Bullseye. Criminals exist in every organization or movement. You can't paint all tea party folks any more than you could tar every lefty with the Black Panther movement or the Weather Underground in the 1960's.

104 ryannon  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 6:47:52pm

re: #100 albusteve

well if he doesn't have any, it sort of renders the whole thing useless...tough to overthrow the feds with no grenades...just another crackpot

Like Timothy McVeigh.

105 recusancy  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 6:48:11pm

re: #96 brookly red

and so you say the tea party people openly accept this nut? I don't see them raising donations for his defense...

Talking about Oath Keepers and 3 (4?) percenters (or whatever the hell they're called). Per KT's post that you replied to.

106 The Left  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 6:48:13pm

Shouldn't we be talking about Jeremiah Wright again? //

107 jamesfirecat  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 6:48:20pm

re: #96 brookly red

and so you say the tea party people openly accept this nut? I don't see them raising donations for his defense...

He's just been arrested lets give it a week and see what happens one way or another.

108 pnw_pirate  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 6:48:37pm

Was the original video that the article refers to removed and replaced with the one Charles linked to? At no point in this video were any of the quoted words from the article spoken.

109 BruceKelly  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 6:48:53pm

re: #48 ryannon

Felons: the new moral minority.

Bumpersticker?

110 albusteve  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 6:49:02pm

re: #104 ryannon

Like Timothy McVeigh.

yeah, another dismal failure

111 jamesfirecat  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 6:49:15pm

re: #104 ryannon

Like Timothy McVeigh.

Lord knows he never accomplished much...

112 SteveC  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 6:49:43pm

re: #85 RogueOne

They're in the hands of the local Oklahoma sheriff. I'm not sure that makes me feel all that much safer.

"Mike, you got any idea how you work this thang...." *Whoosh..... BOOM!*

"Well, there goes our pensions."

113 jaunte  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 6:49:50pm

Here's some more video of Dyer and friends running around in camo outside of San Diego, and explaining his worldview. "We create terrorists..."
[Link: www.youtube.com...]

114 albusteve  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 6:49:51pm

re: #106 iceweasel

Shouldn't we be talking about Jeremiah Wright again? //

that's been settled

115 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 6:49:55pm

re: #108 pnw_pirate

There are several videos posted by this lunatic. Check out the rest of the postings on his youtube channel.

116 brookly red  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 6:50:08pm

re: #107 jamesfirecat

He's just been arrested lets give it a week and see what happens one way or another.

no. How about we be here now & admit that a very broad brush is being used.

117 Mocking Jay  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 6:50:22pm

re: #115 Killgore Trout

There are several videos posted by this lunatic. Check out the rest of the postings on his youtube channel.

I don't wanna.

118 recusancy  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 6:51:10pm

re: #116 brookly red

no. How about we be here now & admit that a very broad brush is being used.

Are you a tea bagger?

119 The Left  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 6:51:12pm

Let's try to remember how this song goes...
Teabaggers? Just fine. Wacko flags at brown rallies? Meaningless! Homegrown would-be 'revolutionaries' with grenade launchers? No problem.

Che poster in one campaign office? -- OMG WHY DOES OBAMA HATE AMERICA!!

120 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 6:51:34pm

re: #106 iceweasel

Shouldn't we be talking about Jeremiah Wright again? //

Ice, I like you but please leave that on the last thread with the butthurt brainwizard.

121 Kruk  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 6:51:53pm

re: #101 brookly red

so 2 wrong make a right huh?

No, I'm pointing out the hypocrisy involved, which was my original statement was in quotation marks. If you took out "right-winger" and replaced it with "Muslim", you'd have exactly what the right-wingers who are squealing now about guilt by association are usually saying.

122 RogueOne  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 6:51:54pm

Looking for more videos on Dyer I ran across this:

He says 2 people he knows told him Dyer bragged about owning the launcher and that the sheriff is very confident of the child rape/forcible sodomy charges. He also claims the sheriff is a patriot himself. Then he wanders into something about blowing up the moon.....sounds legit.

123 brookly red  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 6:52:53pm

re: #118 recusancy

Are you a tea bagger?

No I am a conservative democrat. are you a hypocrite ?

124 Sheila Broflovski  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 6:53:01pm

re: #36 SanFranciscoZionist

Ya think? I think he's trying to look serious and patriotic. Or possibly constipated.

He looks really pissed off. Like he's thinking, "The fuck am I doing here, holding this umbrella over this honkey, like he da massa? The fuck do I care if he get soaking wet?"

125 recusancy  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 6:53:47pm

re: #123 brookly red

No I am a conservative democrat. are you a hypocrite ?

I treat all tea baggers with as much respect as you treat all code pinkers.

126 brainwizard73  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 6:54:52pm

re: #119 iceweasel

Don't forget WH deputies running around with little red Mao books.

127 jamesfirecat  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 6:55:07pm

re: #122 RogueOne

Looking for more videos on Dyer I ran across this:


[Video]He says 2 people he knows told him Dyer bragged about owning the launcher and that the sheriff is very confident of the child rape/forcible sodomy charges. He also claims the sheriff is a patriot himself. Then he wanders into something about blowing up the moon...sounds legit.

"Would you miss it? I've got nukes up the ying yang let me launch just one!"

Paraphrased from the second Austin Power's movie...

128 Racer X  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 6:55:07pm

Scott Brown wiped the floor with Martha Coakley. Nothing to see here, no worries.

Look! A Tea Bagger!

129 The Left  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 6:55:44pm

re: #120 Dark_Falcon

Ice, I like you but please leave that on the last thread with the butthurt brainwizard.

I'm pretty disgusted today by the amount of people here willing to excuse or minimise the extremist craziness we're seeing. Especially those (and there was much more than one) who really really want to hate on Obama, for anything. Even shit that was a tired talking point back in August 08.

Too many folks appear to don't care who they're affiliated with, just so long as it means a "republican" win. Or a slam at Obama.

This shit is tearing the country apart, DF. And I think I'm right to be worried, and angry about it.
I'm sticking to making silly jokes because I'm too disgusted and angry to do much else.

130 brookly red  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 6:56:12pm

re: #125 recusancy

I treat all tea baggers with as much respect as you treat all code pinkers.

I never accused code pinkers of violence or crimes against children... so tell me are all TPs violent extremists or is this an isolated case?

131 pnw_pirate  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 6:57:17pm

re: #115 Killgore Trout

There are several videos posted by this lunatic. Check out the rest of the postings on his youtube channel.

Just refreshed and saw that Charles edited the original post...I'm looking for the actual video now.

132 ryannon  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 6:57:22pm

re: #116 brookly red

no. How about we be here now & admit that a very broad brush is being used.

He's depraved on account of he's deprived.

133 freetoken  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 6:57:25pm

On the RonPaulForums site, a thread started by senior member "Merk" on 18th, whose message is:

There are serious questions about the legitimacy of this arrest. Oathkeepers need to rally, in uniform, to this man. This is a classic move by the PTB... pull the molester card for a warrant and then go fishing... I've been watching this guys tubez on the interwebz for awhile and this looks like a "shut-him-up-anyway-you-can" type deal to me.

[copied news story from the Duncan Banner]

Ah yes, the true believers over on the forum that bears Ron Paul's name...

134 jamesfirecat  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 6:58:13pm

re: #133 freetoken

On the RonPaulForums site, a thread started by senior member "Merk" on 18th, whose message is:

Ah yes, the true believers over on the forum that bears Ron Paul's name...

Yeah stuff like this is exactly what SHOULD NOT be happening in a sane political party.

135 brainwizard73  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 6:58:20pm

re: #125 recusancy

One small issue: There are something like 500 or so Code Pink folks...ok, maybe 1,000. Little smaller sample size than the admittedly thousands of people that attended these TP rallies all across the nation. When you have 100 nuts in a group of 500-1000 or so, its easier to characterize than when you have 100 nuts (fine, 600 nuts) in a group of (loosely) 100,000+.

Not saying unfair slams are always accurate, but the sample sizes are different.

136 palomino  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 6:58:21pm

re: #59 albusteve

54% of voters chose Obama...anything is possible

I get it, haha, Obama voters are nuts.

Except they don't have grenade launchers and don't support overthrowing the govt. just because they lost a presidential election.

137 brookly red  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 6:58:25pm

re: #132 ryannon

He's depraved on account of he's deprived.

so when you say "he" can I assume you mean 1 singular person?

138 Decatur Deb  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 6:58:39pm

re: #132 ryannon

He's depraved on account of he's deprived.

Might need more than a year in the pen,

139 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 6:59:37pm

re: #132 ryannon

He's depraved on account of he's deprived.

Very good, Officer Krupkey. ;)

140 brainwizard73  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 6:59:54pm

re: #120 Dark_Falcon

Dude, I didn't mention you know who on the last thread...save the ammo.

141 MandyManners  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:00:09pm

It wouldn't surprise me if a guy with a grenade launcher who calls for the overthrow of the government raped someone. He has boundary issues and problems with anger.

142 recusancy  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:00:26pm

re: #130 brookly red

I never accused code pinkers of violence or crimes against children... so tell me are all TPs violent extremists or is this an isolated case?

Nobody's accusing all tea baggers of that. You are thinking we're conflating this guy and all TPer's. We're not. We're conflating TPer's with ignorant fantasies of revolution.

143 brainwizard73  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:01:03pm

re: #128 Racer X

Right...hey, it's Officer Barbrady...

144 Racer X  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:02:00pm
145 albusteve  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:02:03pm

re: #136 palomino

I get it, haha, Obama voters are nuts.

Except they don't have grenade launchers and don't support overthrowing the govt. just because they lost a presidential election.


just pointing out that you never know what will happen...I doubt anyone wanting to overthrow the govt will get much support from the gen pop nomatter their political affiliation...these people have always been around and the fact that some are now being exposed does not raise their chance of success

146 freetoken  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:02:29pm

More on the RonPaulForums, a thread titled "July4Patriot Taken Down" [ugh], and I don't think I need to copy any more messages here... I've made the point, but just for those who think I am cherry picking - I am not, I'm just taking links as Google spits them out to me...

Anyway, the thread is of "true patriots" who are rallying to Dyer's defense with the usual conspiratorial nonsense.

147 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:02:29pm

re: #141 MandyManners

It wouldn't surprise me if a guy with a grenade launcher who calls for the overthrow of the government raped someone. He has boundary issues and problems with anger.

Good point Mandy.

148 recusancy  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:02:47pm

re: #135 brainwizard73

One small issue: There are something like 500 or so Code Pink folks...ok, maybe 1,000. Little smaller sample size than the admittedly thousands of people that attended these TP rallies all across the nation. When you have 100 nuts in a group of 500-1000 or so, its easier to characterize than when you have 100 nuts (fine, 600 nuts) in a group of (loosely) 100,000+.

Not saying unfair slams are always accurate, but the sample sizes are different.

So the right has more nuts. Or more people willing to hang out with nuts. Thank you for admitting that code pink is not a vast left wing organization but a tiny fringe group.

149 Decatur Deb  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:02:57pm

re: #122 RogueOne

Looking for more videos on Dyer I ran across this:


[Video]He says 2 people he knows told him Dyer bragged about owning the launcher and that the sheriff is very confident of the child rape/forcible sodomy charges. He also claims the sheriff is a patriot himself. Then he wanders into something about blowing up the moon...sounds legit.

His message is an attempt to pre-empt support for the suspect that seems to be growing on YouTube.

150 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:03:03pm

re: #88 keloyd

This is why I wait a friend of mine wait, this random person I met and chatted with has no compunction at all about pinching movies from various websites or torrents. The way dozens of Hollywood big shots fell all over themselves defending whats-his-name in France was a bit shocking to someone who is not easily shocked. Any idea of the de facto age of consent in France? In practice, it's puberty from what I hear, though Wikipedia put it at 15 iirc. What the hell has he been up to these last 3 decades?

I don't even want to know.

151 brookly red  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:03:16pm

re: #142 recusancy

Nobody's accusing all tea baggers of that. You are thinking we're conflating this guy and all TPer's. We're not. We're conflating TPer's with ignorant fantasies of revolution.

you don't believe that any more than I do... isolated case or not? yes or no?

152 BruceKelly  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:03:57pm

re: #89 Dark_Falcon

Ammo can be fabricated. The launcher is the hard part. Some rounds, like smoke and buckshot can be procured commercially.

Actually, I think it's the opposite. I won't go into details but a crude launcher can be built with three very simple items from your local Homedepot.

153 SteveC  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:04:10pm

re: #133 freetoken

On the RonPaulForums site, a thread started by senior member "Merk" on 18th, whose message is:

There are serious questions about the legitimacy of this arrest. Oathkeepers need to rally, in uniform, to this man. This is a classic move by the PTB... pull the molester card for a warrant and then go fishing... I've been watching this guys tubez on the interwebz for awhile and this looks like a "shut-him-up-anyway-you-can" type deal to me.

Ah yes, the true believers over on the forum that bears Ron Paul's name...

Our man Merk need to learn that more people take you seriously when you don't use your cute little Internet slang.

Being nuttier than a six acre peanut farm doesn't help, either.

154 RogueOne  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:05:06pm

re: #152 BruceKelly

Actually, I think it's the opposite. I won't go into details but a crude launcher can be built with three very simple items from your local Homedepot.

2 liter bottle and duct tape

155 albusteve  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:05:27pm

re: #152 BruceKelly

Actually, I think it's the opposite. I won't go into details but a crude launcher can be built with three very simple items from your local Homedepot.

yeah, we made them to shoot of fireworks back in the day...mortars are no secret

156 recusancy  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:05:37pm

re: #151 brookly red

you don't believe that any more than I do... isolated case or not? yes or no?

I think it's an isolated case of rape. But if you think that there aren't tea bagging nuts across America stock piling guns and ammo for their fantasy revolution you need to get out of Brooklyn and come into the heartland.

157 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:05:54pm

re: #153 SteveC

Our man Merk need to learn that more people take you seriously when you don't use your cute little Internet slang.

Being nuttier than a six acre peanut farm doesn't help, either.

Don't bring Jimmy Carter into this!

/

158 Kruk  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:05:55pm

re: #152 BruceKelly

Actually, I think it's the opposite. I won't go into details but a crude launcher can be built with three very simple items from your local Homedepot.

Sulphur, charcoal, and a whole bunch of rough diamonds?

(Bonus marks to anyone who gets that sad, sad joke.)

159 keloyd  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:05:57pm

As the son and grandson of Republicans, I am asking for trouble here. Re Jeremiah Wright, his 'God, damn America' comment is a ham-fisted way to say what many churches have preached for years - afflicting the comfortable, comforting the afflicted, etc. with rhetorical flourish.

My favorite hymn has more red meat in it than Wright said - G. K. Chesterton's Oh God of Earth And Altar. Hippies have softened its lyrics a bit, but it's full of hellfire and brimstone goodness like "smite us and save us all," "the walls of gold entomb us; the swords of scorn divide; take not thy thunder from us; but take away our pride..."

While I'm ranting, don't bleep "damn" when used correctly! Its just like how dog breeders can say "bitch" and Spanish speakers can say "negro" with impunity, but not so much the rest of us.

160 darthstar  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:07:02pm

Speaking of teabaggers, "Lord of the Flies" just started on Encore Drama (Dish 345).

161 brookly red  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:07:14pm

re: #156 recusancy

I think it's an isolated case of rape. But if you think that there aren't tea bagging nuts across America stock piling guns and ammo for their fantasy revolution you need to get out of Brooklyn and come into the heartland.

I will accept that.

162 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:07:35pm

re: #158 Kruk

Sulphur, charcoal, and a whole bunch of rough diamonds?

(Bonus marks to anyone who gets that sad, sad joke.)

Only works on slow moving Gorns however...

163 laZardo  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:07:37pm

re: #158 Kruk

Sulphur, charcoal, and a whole bunch of rough diamonds?

(Bonus marks to anyone who gets that sad, sad joke.)

MacGyverGruber?

164 brainwizard73  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:08:18pm

re: #148 recusancy

Hard to argue (or have a rational discussion) with logic like that.

165 Racer X  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:08:24pm

re: #156 recusancy

I think it's an isolated case of rape. But if you think that there aren't tea bagging nuts across America stock piling guns and ammo for their fantasy revolution you need to get out of Brooklyn and come into the heartland.

And all of those nutbags were there ten years ago. The Tea Party movement gave them something to glom on to. It is a anti-government movement that is on the right side of the political spectrum.

166 brookly red  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:08:53pm

re: #163 laZardo

MacGyverGruber?

sigh another trekie... & an old one to boot.

167 Kruk  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:09:08pm

re: #162 oaktree

Only works on slow moving Gorns however...

Hah! Well done, my brother in Geekdom.

168 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:09:24pm

re: #106 iceweasel

Shouldn't we be talking about Jeremiah Wright again? //

Oh my God, now he's got a grenade launcher too?

/

169 brainwizard73  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:09:42pm

re: #160 darthstar

Screw that...I would be "piggy".

170 recusancy  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:09:52pm

re: #165 Racer X

And all of those nutbags were there ten years ago. The Tea Party movement gave them something to glom on to. It is a anti-government movement that is on the right side of the political spectrum.

Yeah.

171 darthstar  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:10:02pm

re: #169 brainwizard73

Screw that...I would be "piggy".

Piggy dies.

172 BruceKelly  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:10:28pm

re: #154 RogueOne

2 liter bottle and duct tape

Same princple, stronger materials, throw in a ballpeen hammer, kiss your ballpeen hammer hand goodbye.

173 brookly red  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:10:37pm

re: #168 SanFranciscoZionist

Oh my God, now he's got a grenade launcher too?

/

why would you need a blooper when you can just damn a whole country :)

174 laZardo  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:10:38pm

re: #166 brookly red

sigh another trekie... & an old one to boot.



Hmm? I thought they meant...

175 Varek Raith  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:11:13pm

re: #168 SanFranciscoZionist

Oh my God, now he's got a grenade launcher too?

/

Big deal, I got a frikkin' Star Destroyer underground in my backyard.
/

176 recusancy  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:11:21pm

re: #165 Racer X

And all of those nutbags were there ten years ago. The Tea Party movement gave them something to glom on to. It is a anti-government movement that is on the right side of the political spectrum.

It's allowed the nuts to be main streamed. And it's good recruiting ground for them.

177 jamesfirecat  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:11:24pm

Going to be posting a bit spottily for a bit Leverage is on!

178 albusteve  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:11:27pm

re: #168 SanFranciscoZionist

Oh my God, now he's got a grenade launcher too?

/

yes, his mouth...his vitriol is as least as harmful to America as some guy with a grenade launcher and no grenades

179 brainwizard73  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:11:46pm

re: #171 darthstar

uh yeah

180 The Left  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:11:47pm

re: #168 SanFranciscoZionist

Oh my God, now he's got a grenade launcher too?

/

HA! Excellent!

That's probably already being posted as fact over on Freak Republic or somewhere...

181 SteveC  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:11:50pm

re: #157 Dark_Falcon

Don't bring Jimmy Carter into this!

/

I didn't! My next door neighbor (WW II Vet, twice wounded) grew peanuts to sell at his roadside stand. He was a gentleman in every sense of the word.

He showed me his Purple Heart - still in the presentation case, looked brand new. He said the Oak Leaf Cluster on the uniform tab meant that he had been wounded twice.

"Do you know what you got if you were wounded three times?" he asked me.

"A star?" I guessed.

He grinned that little grin. "Naw, they give you a little bullseye."

// PFC Tidwell set me up!

182 brookly red  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:12:02pm

re: #175 Varek Raith

Big deal, I got a frikkin' Star Destroyer underground in my backyard.
/

what does it cost to gas that up?

183 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:13:04pm

re: #175 Varek Raith

Big deal, I got a frikkin' Star Destroyer underground in my backyard.
/

But that would make you Yasan Isard. And her's was a Super Star Destroyer, the Lusankya.

/extreme Star Wars geekage

184 laZardo  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:13:10pm

re: #182 brookly red

what does it cost to gas that up?

It's a hybrid. Diesel/nuclear. :D

185 BruceKelly  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:13:23pm

re: #158 Kruk

Sulphur, charcoal, and a whole bunch of rough diamonds?

(Bonus marks to anyone who gets that sad, sad joke.)

No gets...

186 jamesfirecat  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:13:34pm

re: #158 Kruk

Sulphur, charcoal, and a whole bunch of rough diamonds?

(Bonus marks to anyone who gets that sad, sad joke.)

Star Trek, but only because I saw a Mythbusters episode about it...

187 Varek Raith  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:13:42pm

re: #182 brookly red

what does it cost to gas that up?

It runs on a I-a2b Solar Ionization Reactor, basically a mini-sun.
:)

188 brookly red  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:13:51pm

re: #184 laZardo

It's a hybrid. Diesel/nuclear. :D

oh, all show no go huh?

189 Kruk  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:14:00pm

re: #178 albusteve

yes, his mouth...his vitriol is as least as harmful to America as some guy with a grenade launcher and no grenades

Seriously? America's very Bill of Rights say something about being able to spout as much vitriol as you like? Rather close to the start of the document?

190 Obdicut  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:14:21pm

For any star wars geeks who haven't seen it:

[Link: www.st-v-sw.net...]

Star Wars vs. Star Trek technical assessment. Done with Real Science(C)!

191 albusteve  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:15:01pm

re: #189 Kruk

Seriously? America's very Bill of Rights say something about being able to spout as much vitriol as you like? Rather close to the start of the document?

so what?...I didn't say he is illegal with his hate

192 Charles Johnson  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:15:41pm

An example of the kind of email I'm getting from supporters of Scott Brown today:

Who told you that tea party supporters weren't supporting Brown?
Strawman much?

And speaking of teabagging, what do you like? You like a bear with
hairy testicles, a new fish with barely a hair on them? Dipped in
anything before you suck? Do you like to lick or suck first? Straight
to the shaft after that or are you a rim job type of guy?

193 Gus  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:15:55pm

I remember seeing this nut on Youtube last year. To call him a strange dude at this point would be an understatement.

194 darthstar  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:15:58pm

re: #179 brainwizard73

uh yeah

Well...okay then.

195 recusancy  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:16:36pm

re: #178 albusteve

yes, his mouth...his vitriol is as least as harmful to America as some guy with a grenade launcher and no grenades

You're about as vitriolic towards the government as Wright was. He wasn't saying god damned AmeriCANS he was saying god damn AmeriCA. He was going after the government. That's pretty much all you do here. Talk trash about the government.

196 darthstar  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:17:05pm

re: #192 Charles

An example of the kind of email I'm getting from supporters of Scott Brown today:

Well, the teabaggers are certainly well versed in the options available to them.

197 Kruk  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:17:12pm

re: #183 Dark_Falcon

But that would make you Yasan Isard. And her's was a Super Star Destroyer, the Lusankya.

/extreme Star Wars geekage

Isn't that spelt Ysanne?

/extreme geekage on many fronts

198 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:17:42pm

re: #192 Charles

An example of the kind of email I'm getting from supporters of Scott Brown today:

What is with these people calling you gay? Why do they obsess about gayness so much? I don't get it.

199 Obdicut  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:17:46pm

re: #190 Obdicut

And the far, far better:

[Link: www.theforce.net...]

Star wars technical commentaries.

200 William  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:17:58pm

This would have been front page news at the old LGF, not sure where it falls these days...

The Fort Hood Report: Why No Mention of Islam?


The U.S. military's just-released report into the Fort Hood shootings spends 86 pages detailing various slipups by Army officers but not once mentions Major Nidal Hasan by name or even discusses whether the killings may have had anything to do with the suspect's view of his Muslim faith.


And in Time magazine, no less!

201 jaunte  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:18:01pm

re: #192 Charles

They sure do love their descriptive paragraphs.

202 brookly red  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:18:10pm

re: #195 recusancy

You're about as vitriolic towards the government as Wright was. He wasn't saying god damned AmeriCANS he was saying god damn AmeriCA. He was going after the government. That's pretty much all you do here. Talk trash about the government.

is not our government of the people?

203 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:18:14pm

re: #197 Kruk

Isn't that spelt Ysanne?

/extreme geekage on many fronts

It is. I yield to the superior geek.

204 SteveC  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:18:31pm

re: #190 Obdicut

Done with Real Science(C)!

As a noted scientist it surprised me that the girl blinded me with science!

205 The Sanity Inspector  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:18:50pm

re: #62 SanFranciscoZionist

Except for an alarming number of people who work in Hollywood, she muttered...

They're "American", but they're not "American-American".

206 Sheila Broflovski  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:19:10pm

re: #192 Charles

An example of the kind of email I'm getting from supporters of Scott Brown today:

That guy sounds like he's an expert on the fine art of teabagging. Must have a whole bunch of experience, probably from the time he spent "on paid vacation"

207 The Left  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:19:17pm

re: #192 Charles

Oh my god.

208 Cato the Elder  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:19:20pm

re: #202 brookly red

is not our government of the people?

Rip van Winkle, is that you?

209 Obdicut  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:19:21pm

re: #198 Dark_Falcon

It's kind of like the guys who write descriptively about torture.

Anyone writing descriptively about gay sex who is not getting paid to do so is, well, interested in descriptions of gay sex. I don't know any other way to interpret it. I've never once had the urge to speculate in detail about gay sex. I think it may have something to do with my heterosexuality.

210 albusteve  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:19:39pm

re: #195 recusancy

You're about as vitriolic towards the government as Wright was. He wasn't saying god damned AmeriCANS he was saying god damn AmeriCA. He was going after the government. That's pretty much all you do here. Talk trash about the government.

LGF is my pulpit!...haha!...weak...do you think anybody is listening to me?....state senators?

211 Daniel Ballard  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:19:42pm

re: #141 MandyManners

Cut The FringeTM

When the guy on your side is the enemy...Sheesh.
But this time I refer not the the Republicans or the "right" or the conservatives. I aim directly at the Tea Party. This is your moment to renounce anyone who wants to use anything apart from money, persuasion and a vote to achieve your aims. Do that and you can claim to be mainstream, civilized. Fail to do that and you can fail with the terrorists, the skinheads, the haters.

212 brookly red  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:20:15pm

re: #208 Cato the Elder

Rip van Winkle, is that you?

yeah and I get pissy when someone wake me up ;)

213 brainwizard73  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:20:28pm

A desent of any thread into Star Trek/Star Wars realms should always be welcomed...at least as long as no one has anything else to stir up.

214 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:20:38pm

re: #185 BruceKelly

Star Trek

About 2 minutes in it cuts to towards the end of the episode where it all comes together. James T Kirk, domestic terrorist!

215 recusancy  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:20:47pm

re: #202 brookly red

is not our government of the people?

Yeah. Which is why it's annoying listening to the Right always talk like government is the worst thing in the world and then turn around and pretend to be patriotic and wrap themselves in the flag.

216 Kruk  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:21:03pm

re: #185 BruceKelly

No gets...

Classic Star Trek episode:

[Link: memory-alpha.org...]

217 BruceKelly  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:21:28pm

Screw the M203. He's a rapist. I believe rape, any rape, should be treated with the same severity as first degree murder, and yes, I support the death penalty.

218 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:21:45pm

re: #211 Rightwingconspirator

Cut The FringeTM

When the guy on your side is the enemy...Sheesh.
But this time I refer not the the Republicans or the "right" or the conservatives. I aim directly at the Tea Party. This is your moment to renounce anyone who wants to use anything apart from money, persuasion and a vote to achieve your aims. Do that and you can claim to be mainstream, civilized. Fail to do that and you can fail with the terrorists, the skinheads, the haters.

Good and honorable words, RWC. I pray they are heeded.

219 Kruk  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:22:26pm

re: #203 Dark_Falcon

It is. I yield to the superior geek.

Indeed. I am the King of Dorkopolis. :)

220 brookly red  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:22:28pm

re: #215 recusancy

Yeah. Which is why it's annoying listening to the Right always talk like government is the worst thing in the world and then turn around and pretend to be patriotic and wrap themselves in the flag.

good answer... it almost made me forget you were talking about Wright.

221 Gus  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:22:31pm

re: #192 Charles

An example of the kind of email I'm getting from supporters of Scott Brown today:

Somehow that reads like a bizarre violent sexual fantasy on the part of the "author."

222 albusteve  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:22:37pm

re: #215 recusancy

Yeah. Which is why it's annoying listening to the Right always talk like government is the worst thing in the world and then turn around and pretend to be patriotic and wrap themselves in the flag.

it must be a higher concept then...seems simple enough for me

223 keloyd  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:22:49pm

re: #217 BruceKelly

Vito Corleone, in the first scene, of the first movie, disagrees.

224 MandyManners  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:23:11pm

re: #217 BruceKelly

Screw the M203. He's a rapist. I believe rape, any rape, should be treated with the same severity as first degree murder, and yes, I support the death penalty.

He's been arrested for rape, not convicted.

225 Obdicut  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:23:32pm

re: #211 Rightwingconspirator

Given their origin, and the extent to which those whose interest is cynical already have penetrated the Tea Party-- I don't think there's a chance in hell of that. I think they'd have to create the Coffee Party: For when you really wake up.

226 BruceKelly  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:23:36pm

re: #214 oaktree

Star Trek


[Video]About 2 minutes in it cuts to towards the end of the episode where it all comes together. James T Kirk, domestic terrorist!

Ah yes! I remember that episode.

227 brookly red  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:24:15pm

re: #224 MandyManners

He's been arrested for rape, not convicted.

/but, but he is a tea bagger...

228 BruceKelly  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:24:20pm

re: #224 MandyManners

He's been arrested for rape, not convicted.

Point taken.

229 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:24:27pm

I know this stuff hurts a lot of people's feelings but it's only going to get worse. The MSM is actually going easy on the Tea parties and not making a big deal out of this guy's affiliation. These anti-government militias are very involved in the Tea Parties, it's very obvious and they are welcome and accepted. Imagine if this guy had actually used his grenade launcher to kill Americans. It's going to look very bad if an incident like that occurs and the political fallout of associating with these people is going to be very serious.

230 pnw_pirate  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:24:38pm

For anyone interested, here is the video that the article quotes:

Dyer talks about "training" with militia groups while playing paintball and airsoft and the "using my training to become a domestic terrorist" quote starts right around 2:49.

231 darthstar  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:25:33pm

re: #224 MandyManners

He's been arrested for rape, not convicted.

True...innocent until proven guilty. But the fact that he's also in possession of stolen military ordinance doesn't exactly support the "he's a great guy who could be innocent" defense.

232 palomino  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:25:48pm

An "armed revolution" to overthrow our own govt. just isn't part of the Left's vocabulary any more, hasn't been since the 60's.

After 2000 and 2004 liberals cried and moaned and wore "not my president" t-shirts. And that's about it.

What you're seeing on the far right is very different. There's a siege mentality that breeds talk of "armed revolt" against the ELECTED govt of our nation. And we're only ONE year into Obama's term.

233 brainwizard73  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:26:45pm

re: #192 Charles

I think you got something by mistake...isn't that an NSA intercept between Hugo Chavez and MA (Also known as Mr. Tehran excitement)?

234 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:26:48pm

When the Ron Paul Revolution ended, the Tea Parties began. Actually, the Paulians started the Tea Party protests a couple years before that, but I digress. The Tea Party is not now, nor has it been, a conservative movement. It's a Paul-bot movement.

These "random", "occasional" kooks are not operating in a vacuum. The Tea Party movement appeals to them, welcomes them, enables them, and gives them platforms from which to speak. And these kooks are neither random nor occasional. They are the movement, they run the movement, they organize the movement.

These kooks are not "the odd man out" in these Tea Parties, the rational conservatives are, and they are being suckered into the movement by a concerted effort to white-wash the ugliness that lies just beneath the surface.

235 Obdicut  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:26:54pm

re: #232 palomino

It makes me nostalgic for that wussiest of cries, "I'm moving to Canada".*

236 recusancy  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:27:15pm

re: #232 palomino

An "armed revolution" to overthrow our own govt. just isn't part of the Left's vocabulary any more, hasn't been since the 60's.

After 2000 and 2004 liberals cried and moaned and wore "not my president" t-shirts. And that's about it.

What you're seeing on the far right is very different. There's a siege mentality that breeds talk of "armed revolt" against the ELECTED govt of our nation. And we're only ONE year into Obama's term.

That's what boggles my mind. We're only exactly one year into his first term and it's already this crazy.

237 jamesfirecat  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:27:22pm

re: #197 Kruk

Isn't that spelt Ysanne?

/extreme geekage on many fronts

She has one red eye, one blue one...

238 The Sanity Inspector  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:27:25pm

re: #192 Charles

Yick. I'd have taken your word for it, that it was disgusting.

239 Varek Raith  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:28:09pm

I don't get these militia types. Do they seriously believe they stand a chance against the combined Armed Forces of the United States. Do they seriously believe that any significant portion of said Armed Forces would join them in a theoretical revolution?

240 Daniel Ballard  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:28:13pm

re: #218 Dark_Falcon

I have a sad prediction. They will not explicitly shed the militias, the wanna be Ruby Ridge heroes. Damn shame. There are good people caught up. Good fiscal conservatives. Honest religious folks. The sensible right needs those people.

241 BruceKelly  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:28:13pm

re: #224 MandyManners

He's been arrested for rape, not convicted.

Certain things get me a little hot under the collar and I jumped the gun.

242 Kruk  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:28:25pm

re: #213 brainwizard73

A desent of any thread into Star Trek/Star Wars realms should always be welcomed...at least as long as no one has anything else to stir up.

Aww, come on. Don't you miss the good old days on Usenet, when you could cross-post a thread to two different fandoms and enjoy the reasoned discussion that followed?

Oh my god. I *am* old. :)

243 albusteve  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:29:02pm

re: #229 Killgore Trout

I know this stuff hurts a lot of people's feelings but it's only going to get worse. The MSM is actually going easy on the Tea parties and not making a big deal out of this guy's affiliation. These anti-government militias are very involved in the Tea Parties, it's very obvious and they are welcome and accepted. Imagine if this guy had actually used his grenade launcher to kill Americans. It's going to look very bad if an incident like that occurs and the political fallout of associating with these people is going to be very serious.

I will agree on the one point...tea parties are here to stay..I don't feel threatened by the anarchy aspect nearly as much as the political part of it...people laugh, but I can easily see a Paulian and a Bircher running for the president...I just don't think it will be Palin...if Brown had support from the baggers, so be it...we can judge his record when the time comes

244 Daniel Ballard  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:29:11pm

re: #225 Obdicut

LOL. Great turn of phrase, lets both use that more shall we?

245 palomino  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:29:13pm

re: #236 recusancy

Imagine the response of these folks if they were on the losing end of an election like 2000.

246 CapeCoddah  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:29:39pm

Good evening everyone

247 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:29:42pm

re: #192 Charles

Why do these types always project their homo-erotic fantasies onto those they disagree with or dislike?

248 laZardo  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:30:14pm

re: #234 Slumbering Behemoth

When the Ron Paul Revolution ended, the Tea Parties began. Actually, the Paulians started the Tea Party protests a couple years before that, but I digress. The Tea Party is not now, nor has it been, a conservative movement. It's a Paul-bot movement.

These "random", "occasional" kooks are not operating in a vacuum. The Tea Party movement appeals to them, welcomes them, enables them, and gives them platforms from which to speak. And these kooks are neither random nor occasional. They are the movement, they run the movement, they organize the movement.

These kooks are not "the odd man out" in these Tea Parties, the rational conservatives are, and they are being suckered into the movement by a concerted effort to white-wash the ugliness that lies just beneath the surface.

Given the realignment of the "Overton Window" toward the right over the last 20 years I'm still convinced this tea party movement the true face of American conservatism, unleashed by the victory of a candidate that really is ruling toward the (actual) center.

249 andres  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:30:17pm

re: #90 brookly red

sounds like profiling to me...

Yep, quite correct. Any problem with it?

re: #101 brookly red

so 2 wrong make a right huh?

When done correctly, profiling is an good investigative tool.

When done incorrectly, it's problematic and useless.

250 prairiefire  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:30:19pm

re: #234 Slumbering Behemoth

What about Republican Dick Armey's involvement?

251 brookly red  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:30:25pm

...

252 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:30:32pm

re: #232 palomino

An "armed revolution" to overthrow our own govt. just isn't part of the Left's vocabulary any more, hasn't been since the 60's.

After 2000 and 2004 liberals cried and moaned and wore "not my president" t-shirts. And that's about it.

What you're seeing on the far right is very different. There's a siege mentality that breeds talk of "armed revolt" against the ELECTED govt of our nation. And we're only ONE year into Obama's term.

Yes, Indeed. It's entirely possible that things will get very bad. And if some teabagging radicals go nuts and murder people, the entire GOP will catch the blame.

253 albusteve  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:30:36pm

re: #232 palomino

An "armed revolution" to overthrow our own govt. just isn't part of the Left's vocabulary any more, hasn't been since the 60's.

After 2000 and 2004 liberals cried and moaned and wore "not my president" t-shirts. And that's about it.

What you're seeing on the far right is very different. There's a siege mentality that breeds talk of "armed revolt" against the ELECTED govt of our nation. And we're only ONE year into Obama's term.

no shit...imagine three years from now...the left better reign it in

254 reine.de.tout  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:30:55pm

re: #229 Killgore Trout

I know this stuff hurts a lot of people's feelings but it's only going to get worse. The MSM is actually going easy on the Tea parties and not making a big deal out of this guy's affiliation. These anti-government militias are very involved in the Tea Parties, it's very obvious and they are welcome and accepted. Imagine if this guy had actually used his grenade launcher to kill Americans. It's going to look very bad if an incident like that occurs and the political fallout of associating with these people is going to be very serious.

You predicted this early on.
And it is indeed looking as bad as you predicted it would get to be.

255 The Sanity Inspector  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:31:04pm

re: #200 William

This would have been front page news at the old LGF, not sure where it falls these days...

The Fort Hood Report: Why No Mention of Islam?

And in Time magazine, no less!

It fits in here just fine, thanks. Not so sure about you, with a comment like that.

256 recusancy  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:31:08pm

re: #245 palomino

Imagine the response of these folks if they were on the losing end of an election like 2000.

I was secretly hoping that McCain would win the pop vote and Obama would win the electoral just to see how they'd react. I'm glad that didn't happen cause shit would be out of control right now.

257 Decatur Deb  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:31:13pm

re: #239 Varek Raith

I don't get these militia types. Do they seriously believe they stand a chance against the combined Armed Forces of the United States. Do they seriously believe that any significant portion of said Armed Forces would join them in a theoretical revolution?

The Oathkeepers believe the military and law enforcement are ready to be co-opted. The 3-percenters emphasize that only a small portion of the colonists fought George III. That's how they feed their demons.

258 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:31:31pm

re: #239 Varek Raith

I don't get these militia types. Do they seriously believe they stand a chance against the combined Armed Forces of the United States. Do they seriously believe that any significant portion of said Armed Forces would join them in a theoretical revolution?

Sort of but not really. They do believe it on some level but when it comes down to really taking action most of them know that the best outcome they could realistically hope for is Waco or Ruby Ridge where they can hold out for a few days before getting killed. However, it only takes one person who's stupid or crazy enough and then things get ugly. A small group who convince themselves they can start a revolution could do a lot of damage.

259 brookly red  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:31:59pm

re: #253 albusteve

no shit...imagine three years from now...the left better reign it in

KT is bucking for director of homeland security...

260 Kruk  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:32:04pm

re: #239 Varek Raith

I don't get these militia types. Do they seriously believe they stand a chance against the combined Armed Forces of the United States. Do they seriously believe that any significant portion of said Armed Forces would join them in a theoretical revolution?

I think that's exactly what they believe. And the police, and the ordinary folk who are just waiting for the word to rise up....

261 recusancy  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:32:18pm

re: #253 albusteve

no shit...imagine three years from now...the left better reign it in

Is that a direct threat of violence?

262 The Left  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:32:57pm

re: #247 Slumbering Behemoth

Why do these types always project their homo-erotic fantasies onto those they disagree with or dislike?

Because they're raving homophobes who are simultaneously obsessed with, and fearful of, gay sex. So very fearful of it that they spend lots and lots of time dwelling on the mechanics of it. So hatefilled that the worst insult they can imagine delivering to a man is to call him 'gay' -- it's 'funny', see, because they're saying that man is like a woman.
They also hate women, naturally. They're probably so obsessed with penises because they don't have access to anyone's body but their own.

263 albusteve  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:33:03pm

re: #259 brookly red

KT is bucking for director of homeland security...

he'd probably have me arrested!

264 Varek Raith  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:33:05pm

re: #261 recusancy

Is that a direct threat of violence?

Steve's just a bit cranky tonight.

265 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:33:22pm

re: #246 CapeCoddah

Good evening everyone

Hi, CC. We were talking about the insanity of Tea Party crowd. Got any good ideas on how Senator Brown can hold them at arm's length?

266 Daniel Ballard  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:33:40pm

re: #232 palomino

"Aremd revolution" groups and domestic terror political leanings are cyclical. Or I should say counter cyclical. When Nixon was in with Vietnam we got Bill Ayers and left wing bombs going off. When Clinton was in we got Oklahoma city. Associating domestic terror with a certain point of view only works in the very short term perspective.

267 Obdicut  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:33:44pm

re: #244 Rightwingconspirator

Agreed. And I totally take your point, by the way: My fiancee's mother and stepdad, who are both wonderful, caring, loving, generous, environmentally concerned, good people, both went to Tea Party rallies. They don't believe in the Democrats ability to actually deliver on promises, they don't believe the GOP has a soul left. They joined the Tea Party movement really not as a desire to take over the GOP, but to reject the GOP.

They no longer have anything to do with them. As soon as they started asking for money and her mom offered to volunteer instead, and they said, "Nah, we want money", she figured it was not exactly the movement she was looking for.

268 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:33:47pm

re: #254 reine.de.tout

Let's just hope my worst case predictions don't come true.

269 Kruk  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:33:56pm

re: #237 jamesfirecat

She has one red eye, one blue one...

And a heart of ice. :) One of my favorite villians from the books. (Thrawn was good to start with, but I think Zahn got carried away with him.)

270 albusteve  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:34:09pm

re: #261 recusancy

Is that a direct threat of violence?

I'm generally non violent myself

271 brookly red  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:34:18pm

re: #263 albusteve

he'd probably have me arrested!

/hell he would probably frisk you him self :)

272 Decatur Deb  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:34:30pm

re: #250 prairiefire

What about Republican Dick Armey's involvement?

That's another trend. In a sense they steal the RP shtick for the moneyed interests. I still don't know how Chicago B of Trade reporter really fits.

273 Daniel Ballard  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:34:39pm

re: #267 Obdicut

Smart lady. And Thanks.

274 palomino  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:34:48pm

re: #253 albusteve

ahh, it's the left's fault? sounds kinda passive-aggressive to me.

what exactly should the left reign in?

275 prairiefire  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:34:51pm
276 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:35:02pm

re: #263 albusteve

he'd probably have me arrested!

Yeah but I'd treat you like Otis from the Andy Griffith show. I'll leave the door unlocked and you can come and go as you please.

277 jaunte  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:35:03pm

re: #247 Slumbering Behemoth

Why do these types always project their homo-erotic fantasies onto those they disagree with or dislike?

I think they're incompletely developed personalities.

Splitting creates instability in relationships, because one person can be viewed as either all good or all bad at different times, depending on whether he or she gratifies needs or frustrates them. This, and similar oscillations in the experience of the self, lead to chaotic and unstable relationship patterns, identity diffusion and mood swings.[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
278 albusteve  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:35:09pm

re: #264 Varek Raith

Steve's just a bit cranky tonight.

how so?...I have a big smile on my face and am enjoying the discourse

279 brookly red  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:35:19pm

re: #268 Killgore Trout

Let's just hope my worst case predictions don't come true.

so far you have a perfect record.

280 reine.de.tout  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:36:00pm

re: #225 Obdicut

Given their origin, and the extent to which those whose interest is cynical already have penetrated the Tea Party-- I don't think there's a chance in hell of that. I think they'd have to create the Coffee Party: For when you really wake up.

ROFL!
Favorited!
I could really go for a Coffee Party.

281 idioma  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:36:02pm

How is this different from the Taliban? I can't even tell anymore.

282 SteveC  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:36:05pm

re: #262 iceweasel

They're probably so obsessed with penises because they don't have access to anyone's body but their own.

So, if we can get these people laid they'll calm down? If that proves to be true, I'll foot the bill for a few of them!

283 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:36:15pm

re: #239 Varek Raith

I don't get these militia types. Do they seriously believe they stand a chance against the combined Armed Forces of the United States. Do they seriously believe that any significant portion of said Armed Forces would join them in a theoretical revolution?

Don't forget us regular citizens. I did not vote for Obama, but he was elected by the people of this nation. He occupies the oval office not by a coup of any sort, but by the same constitutional process that any POTUS can be elected.

If these militia types want to throw overthrow our legitimately elected gov't with some sort of violent, military coup, they will find themselves up against more than just the U.S. Armed Forces.

284 Varek Raith  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:36:17pm

re: #278 albusteve

how so?...I have a big smile on my face and am enjoying the discourse

Beat's me, I seem to have trouble reading your thoughts...
/damn, my ESP ain't what it should be.
:)

285 jamesfirecat  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:36:50pm

re: #217 BruceKelly

Screw the M203. He's a rapist. I believe rape, any rape, should be treated with the same severity as first degree murder, and yes, I support the death penalty.

Better idea, the castration penalty!

286 Escaped Hillbilly  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:36:51pm

What I noticed right off the bat, is the difference between the presentation to the group in the video Charles posted up front and the tv station's featured video. He's playing the crowd about right in the first, and let loose with the rhetoric, thinking he is safe, in the 2nd. Did he really think that stupid half mask would disguise him from anybody, let alone any criminal or intelligence agency? His presentation in the 1st video wasn't particularly stirring or smooth, sounded like the average hooah talk given by any 1SG or CDR. For the most part he got a luke warm response from a crowd that was obviously mostly in agreement with his position. I think as a revolutionary leader, he is no Che. Lucky for us.

287 reine.de.tout  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:37:04pm

re: #268 Killgore Trout

Let's just hope my worst case predictions don't come true.

Some of 'em seem to be getting close.
Scary.

288 brainwizard73  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:37:12pm

re: #281 idioma

How is this different from the Taliban? I can't even tell anymore.

When the TPers start beheading people for spitting on Bibles, we will be there. Until then...

289 Cato the Elder  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:37:13pm

re: #274 palomino

ahh, it's the left's fault? sounds kinda passive-aggressive to me.

what exactly should the left reign in?

For starters, the use of "reign" when people mean "rein".

290 avanti  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:38:11pm

Free 2010 Hooters calender online.

calender.

291 albusteve  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:38:15pm

re: #268 Killgore Trout

Let's just hope my worst case predictions don't come true.

maybe close, but close don't count...this right wing extremism is just picking up speed and as I've said before the 2010 elections will help sort out where it goes...stuff happens fast then goes away just as fast...we need to wait and see what kind of grip the baggers have on the gutless GOP

292 brookly red  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:38:25pm

re: #285 jamesfirecat

Better idea, the castration penalty!

you really do seem to have problems...

293 Varek Raith  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:38:43pm

re: #284 Varek Raith

Beat's me, I seem to have trouble reading your thoughts...
/damn, my ESP ain't what it should be.
:)

Dammit. Beat's should be Beats.

294 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:38:50pm

re: #248 laZardo

There may be some merit to that argument, but I do not accept it. These people are reactionaries, not conservatives.

295 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:38:57pm

re: #281 idioma

How is this different from the Taliban? I can't even tell anymore.

Most of them can read, and they don't yet stuff woman into fabric bags. More survivalist rather than Dominionist, those the two are related.

296 albusteve  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:39:01pm

re: #276 Killgore Trout

Yeah but I'd treat you like Otis from the Andy Griffith show. I'll leave the door unlocked and you can come and go as you please.

tanks bro...

297 reine.de.tout  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:39:36pm

re: #267 Obdicut

Agreed. And I totally take your point, by the way: My fiancee's mother and stepdad, who are both wonderful, caring, loving, generous, environmentally concerned, good people, both went to Tea Party rallies. They don't believe in the Democrats ability to actually deliver on promises, they don't believe the GOP has a soul left. They joined the Tea Party movement really not as a desire to take over the GOP, but to reject the GOP.

They no longer have anything to do with them. As soon as they started asking for money and her mom offered to volunteer instead, and they said, "Nah, we want money", she figured it was not exactly the movement she was looking for.

What it took for me was reading Killgore's incessant posts about the Tea Parties, which led me to take a close look at the local Tea Party organization.

298 freetoken  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:39:39pm

re: #289 Cato the Elder

For starters, the use of "reign" when people mean "rein".

Reign, reign, go away
Fall again another Dei...

299 MandyManners  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:39:53pm

re: #285 jamesfirecat

Better idea, the castration penalty!

Ever heard of cruel and unusual punishment? It's frowned on in the Constitution.

300 palomino  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:39:57pm

re: #289 Cato the Elder

For starters, the use of "reign" when people mean "rein".

most people don't even know the difference between their, there, and they're any more. and you're hung up on rein vs. reign?

301 reine.de.tout  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:40:27pm

re: #289 Cato the Elder

For starters, the use of "reign" when people mean "rein".

Or "reine".

302 brookly red  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:40:34pm

re: #299 MandyManners

Ever heard of cruel and unusual punishment? It's frowned on in the Constitution.

coming from you, madame?

303 jaunte  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:40:34pm

re: #300 palomino

It stays meignly in the pleign.

304 albusteve  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:40:35pm

re: #284 Varek Raith

Beat's me, I seem to have trouble reading your thoughts...
/damn, my ESP ain't what it should be.
:)

just scroll then

305 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:40:40pm

re: #250 prairiefire

What about Republican Dick Armey's involvement?

What about it?

306 BruceKelly  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:40:41pm

re: #276 Killgore Trout

Yeah but I'd treat you like Otis from the Andy Griffith show. I'll leave the door unlocked and you can come and go as you please.

But he's got to do the Dipsy Doodle. The dance AND song.

307 Obdicut  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:40:42pm

re: #297 reine.de.tout

LGF is a natural home of usefully obsessed people.

308 Cato the Elder  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:40:43pm

re: #300 palomino

most people don't even know the difference between their, there, and they're any more. and you're hung up on rein vs. reign?

I'm hung up on preserving what's left of the language.

309 jamesfirecat  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:40:55pm

re: #257 Decatur Deb

The Oathkeepers believe the military and law enforcement are ready to be co-opted. The 3-percenters emphasize that only a small portion of the colonists fought George III. That's how they feed their demons.

Of course they ignore how you can't fight a war against tanks and jets with AKs, at least not a conventional one...

310 MandyManners  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:41:00pm

re: #300 palomino

most people don't even know the difference between their, there, and they're any more. and you're hung up on rein vs. reign?

Most people?

311 Kruk  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:41:02pm

re: #289 Cato the Elder

For starters, the use of "reign" when people mean "rein".

And those who confuse "discrete" and "discreet". A local cinema that has in cinema dining promises that my food would be served discretely during the movie. I should hope so, those communal eating pots can be so messy.

312 MandyManners  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:41:24pm

re: #302 brookly red

coming from you, madame?

I'm not the DoJ.

313 Daniel Ballard  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:41:46pm

re: #225 Obdicut

re: #280 reine.de.tout

ROFL!
Favorited!
I could really go for a Coffee Party.

This is too good to miss. The new phrase here for indy should be "coffee party". Yes for when you wake up from the party hangover.

314 ryannon  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:42:01pm

re: #282 SteveC

So, if we can get these people laid they'll calm down? If that proves to be true, I'll foot the bill for a few of them!

Wouldn't change a thing: they're deprived on account of they're depraved.

315 The Sanity Inspector  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:42:07pm

re: #281 idioma

How is this different from the Taliban? I can't even tell anymore.



There's still some daylight between them.
The Taliban is more than just a new term of abuse for American right-wingers, you know.

316 brookly red  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:42:12pm

re: #312 MandyManners

I'm not the DoJ.

wait till I am in power...

317 captdiggs  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:42:18pm

re: #1 Varek Raith

Gee wilikers, that DHS memo seems, I don't know, kinda...accurate?

Really?
You have exactly ONE person with which to pin that on.
How many Islamists have been arrested for serious and credible threats and acts versus veterans?
Consider that a goodly number of those in Federal Law enforcement are veterans.
The DHS memo was an insult to all veterans and was such an embarrassment to the administration that Napolitano had to apologize.

The fact that there is ONE person that may fit with that "report" is more akin to a broken clock being correct twice a day.

318 Gus  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:42:20pm

Here you go.

American Resistance Radio - cached link. Supporters of Charles Dyer. They're calling him "the first POW of the 2nd American Revolution."

This site is run by the crazy Jim Stachowiak. Watch a video of him here: Graham town hall brings out the crazies [UPDATED]

319 reine.de.tout  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:42:27pm

re: #300 palomino

most people don't even know the difference between their, there, and they're any more. and you're hung up on rein vs. reign?

And don't even get him started on the proper use of apostrophes (apostrophe's?).

320 Varek Raith  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:42:33pm

re: #304 albusteve

just scroll then

I'm just yankin' your chain.

321 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:42:55pm

re: #299 MandyManners

Not to mention hard to reverse if there is ever a case where it later turns out to be a false conviction.

322 jaunte  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:42:55pm

re: #319 reine.de.tout

Or towing the lion.

323 prairiefire  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:42:56pm

re: #305 Slumbering Behemoth

His FreedomWorks organization claims to be the head of the Tea Party movement. He is a proud Republican and former House representative.

324 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:43:51pm

re: #189 Kruk

Seriously? America's very Bill of Rights say something about being able to spout as much vitriol as you like? Rather close to the start of the document?

Shortly after that, it says something about your right to keep and bear grenade launchers.

/

325 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:43:57pm

re: #308 Cato the Elder

I'm hung up on preserving what's left of the language.

I and I thank you for that. Most people don't appreciate the usefulness of language. Being able to have more than one way to say something can be very helpful.

326 albusteve  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:44:21pm

re: #320 Varek Raith

I'm just yankin' your chain.

I don't have a chain...or legs, or even a torso...remember Ed Head sitting on the sidewalk?

327 Barflytom  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:44:24pm

re: #229 Killgore Trout

I know this stuff hurts a lot of people's feelings but it's only going to get worse. The MSM is actually going easy on the Tea parties and not making a big deal out of this guy's affiliation. These anti-government militias are very involved in the Tea Parties, it's very obvious and they are welcome and accepted. Imagine if this guy had actually used his grenade launcher to kill Americans. It's going to look very bad if an incident like that occurs and the political fallout of associating with these people is going to be very serious.

Indeed. Perhaps just a tiny bit more care about vetting who they get for speakers would help.
The militia types have been around for years though, and I'm still inclined to think (hope) that practically all of them are just talk, and not actually lunatic enough to start using the 25,000 rounds they have stored in the closet.

328 MandyManners  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:44:28pm

re: #316 brookly red

wait till I am in power...

*cackle*

329 Varek Raith  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:44:33pm

re: #317 captdiggs

Oy, you're really gonna re-hash the DHS memo???

330 Kronocide  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:44:35pm

Has 'Drinking The Tea' been locked into LGF Lexicon now? It should be.

331 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:44:42pm

re: #309 jamesfirecat

Of course they ignore how you can't fight a war against tanks and jets with AKs, at least not a conventional one...

WOLVERINES!

332 Cato the Elder  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:44:44pm

re: #317 captdiggs

The DHS memo was an insult to all veterans [...]

What a crock.

333 The Sanity Inspector  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:44:45pm

re: #308 Cato the Elder

I'm hung up on preserving what's left of the language.

Irregardless, most people could care less.

/// ducks

334 Decatur Deb  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:44:53pm

re: #309 jamesfirecat

Of course they ignore how you can't fight a war against tanks and jets with AKs, at least not a conventional one...

They imagine the military will bring their own ordnance. (At least a basic load.)

335 albusteve  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:45:13pm

re: #325 Dark_Falcon

I and I thank you for that. Most people don't appreciate the usefulness of language. Being able to have more than one way to say something can be very helpful.



especially for left wingers

336 brookly red  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:45:16pm

re: #321 oaktree

Not to mention hard to reverse if there is ever a case where it later turns out to be a false conviction.

/what false conviction didn't you hear he supports, you know, tea parties...

337 Varek Raith  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:45:28pm

re: #326 albusteve

I don't have a chain...or legs, or even a torso...remember Ed Head sitting on the sidewalk?

Heh! Got me there.
:)

338 MandyManners  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:45:29pm

re: #318 Gus 802

Here you go.

American Resistance Radio - cached link. Supporters of Charles Dyer. They're calling him "the first POW of the 2nd American Revolution."

This site is run by the crazy Jim Stachowiak. Watch a video of him here: Graham town hall brings out the crazies [UPDATED]

I'd like to have their tin-foil business.

339 reine.de.tout  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:45:30pm

re: #322 jaunte

Or towing the lion.

Or "tact" when they mean to say "tack".
Or, "pack" when they mean to say "pact".

That last one - there's a Michael Jackson song where he sings about "making a pact", only he very clearly says "make a pack", and it drives me nuts.

340 Kruk  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:45:32pm

re: #321 oaktree

Not to mention hard to reverse if there is ever a case where it later turns out to be a false conviction.

Yes, but that argument doesn't really hold up in a country that has the death penalty. Besides, most countries that "castrate" sex offenders use chemical castration. That doesn't have the same problem, and it's an idea I could get behind.

341 MandyManners  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:45:42pm

re: #320 Varek Raith

I'm just yankin' your chain.

In bed.

342 Gus  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:45:46pm

re: #333 The Sanity Inspector

Irregardless, most people could care less.

/// ducks

Irregardless! Noone should use that word!

//

343 Escaped Hillbilly  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:45:49pm

re: #317 captdiggs

Have to disagree, that memo said they (the baddees) were trying to get their hands on us vets (the gooddees). Not trying to say we were more susceptible than others to their brand of madness. I can say, the KKK was very actively recruiting around Fort Drum a couple years ago, couple of my guys were invited to an after church meeting that turned out to be very interesting, and a little scary.

344 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:45:54pm

re: #300 palomino

most people don't even know the difference between their, there, and they're any more. and you're hung up on rein vs. reign?

Have you not met our resident pedant? He's a cranky old cuss, and he'll improve your writing skills even if it kills you.

345 MandyManners  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:46:02pm

re: #321 oaktree

Not to mention hard to reverse if there is ever a case where it later turns out to be a false conviction.

Ooops.

346 Cato the Elder  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:46:39pm

re: #339 reine.de.tout

Or "tact" when they mean to say "tack".
Or, "pack" when they mean to say "pact".

That last one - there's a Michael Jackson song where he sings about "making a pact", only he very clearly says "make a pack", and it drives me nuts.

It's a mute point.

347 reine.de.tout  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:47:06pm

re: #346 Cato the Elder

It's a mute point.

*shudder*
MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOT

348 laZardo  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:47:08pm

re: #331 Dark_Falcon

WOLVERINES!

/figures why the online mode of this game is so chock-full of 12-year-old Klansmen wannabes.

349 MandyManners  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:47:23pm

re: #333 The Sanity Inspector

Irregardless, most people could care less.

/// ducks

*whack whack whack*

350 Varek Raith  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:47:29pm

re: #346 Cato the Elder

It's a mute point.

What are you talking about their, exactly?

351 albusteve  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:47:51pm

re: #337 Varek Raith

Heh! Got me there.
:)

High Times cartoon

352 MandyManners  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:47:58pm

re: #340 Kruk

Yes, but that argument doesn't really hold up in a country that has the death penalty. Besides, most countries that "castrate" sex offenders use chemical castration. That doesn't have the same problem, and it's an idea I could get behind.

You don't need an erect penis in order to rape.

353 reine.de.tout  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:48:11pm

re: #350 Varek Raith

What are you talking about their, exactly?

He's not.
It's mute.

354 laZardo  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:48:11pm

re: #349 MandyManners

*whack whack whack*

Don't misunderestimate the power of Bushisms!

355 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:48:13pm

re: #323 prairiefire

The TP movement has many heads. Most are ugly.

356 Cato the Elder  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:48:27pm

re: #350 Varek Raith

What are you talking about their, exactly?

They're is no their there.

357 brookly red  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:48:41pm

re: #352 MandyManners

You don't need an erect penis in order to rape.

/but I find it helps...

358 Decatur Deb  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:48:45pm

re: #324 SanFranciscoZionist

Shortly after that, it says something about your right to keep and bear grenade launchers.

/

It doesn't say you can't have an M203, or a backpack nuke, if you can get one.
There are people out there in militia-land who will say that.

359 idioma  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:48:46pm

Terrorism is terrorism, a cross, crescent, horseshoe, rainbow, or red balloon makes little difference when you get buried under the rubble of a building. The DHS better keep it's eyes inward to this behavior or we'll have a lot of Timmy McVeigh "success stories" to recount to our children.

What world are we building from this free country of ours?

360 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:48:48pm

re: #317 captdiggs

Plenty more examples here. It pointless to continue denying it but I suppose you will anyways.

361 MandyManners  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:48:51pm

re: #354 laZardo

Don't misunderestimate the power of Bushisms!

Got a link?

362 Varek Raith  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:49:05pm

re: #356 Cato the Elder

They're is no their there.

Yes, they're is.
:)

363 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:49:31pm

re: #235 Obdicut

It makes me nostalgic for that wussiest of cries, "I'm moving to Canada".*

Someone I knew finally moved to Canada. It wasn't because of Bush, however, although he'd been threatening that for years.

364 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:49:38pm

re: #318 Gus 802

"the first POW of the 2nd American Revolution."


Where's my flag?

365 CapeCoddah  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:50:04pm

re: #265 Dark_Falcon

Yes, I can send the information relating to the tea parties management to his campaign manager and ask that he take a close look. I will send him an e-mail.
I looked a bit at the last thread. It saddens me that some folks do not understand that the average American who considers themselves a tea partier is painted with the same brush as say Buchannan or the gentleman/ noted in this thread.
For example, holding signs at the polls yesterday with me was an 89 year old man. He is a veteran of the battle of the bulge, a true American hero. He had a Lipton tea bag stapled onto his shirt pocket flap.
Should I have accused this man of being what Buchannan is? No. He is an ordinary guy protesting an overreaching government. Protesting the administrations hell bent for leather path to bankrupting this nation. He put his life on the line so that all of us, most of whom did not even exist yet, could remain free.
The average citizen has no idea who is at the top. They do not have the information Charles provides the few of us with, and I can guarantee they have never thought to look, because to them, it is simply a day to show up, excersise the right to assemble and protest what they wish to protest. Pretty American, all in all. I cannot blame the behavior of the management on the little guys, that is hidden from the individual members. Brown is not a radical. He is a man of the law, a soldier, and a good person. He has been Senator elect for 24 hours now, and to suggest he is some kind of radical because someone passed out a box of flags to supporters headed in to celebrate something we worked so hard to achieve, should not suggest he is a radical. It is extremely unfair to paint him as such when no one outside of Massachusetts the slightest clue who he is yet, simply because of a few photos of a flag.

366 Gus  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:50:14pm

re: #364 Killgore Trout

Where's my flag?

;) Jeff McQueen has some available.

367 MandyManners  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:50:14pm

re: #357 brookly red

Whoa.

368 recusancy  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:50:14pm

re: #361 MandyManners

Got a link?

369 Kruk  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:50:21pm

re: #346 Cato the Elder

It's a mute point.

I'd insult your character for that, but that would be argumentum ad homonym.

370 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:50:27pm

re: #326 albusteve

I remember the Head Detective...

371 palomino  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:50:36pm

re: #310 MandyManners

Most people?

Would you say from reading posts that most people have a grasp of the "3 there's"? (not here, of course--LGF readers are a cut above--but everywhere else)

Spelling, punctuation, grammar, etc. -- these are all collateral damage from IM, tweeting, texting, etc.

372 Gus  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:50:58pm

re: #356 Cato the Elder

They're is no their there.

That is something we should all bare in mind.

373 laZardo  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:51:03pm

re: #361 MandyManners

Got a link?

The About.com Bushisms Archive

374 idioma  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:51:10pm

re: #371 palomino

Would you say from reading posts that most people have a grasp of the "3 there's"? (not here, of course--LGF readers are a cut above--but everywhere else)

Spelling, punctuation, grammar, etc. -- these are all collateral damage from IM, tweeting, texting, etc.

Medic!

375 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:51:22pm

re: #239 Varek Raith

I don't get these militia types. Do they seriously believe they stand a chance against the combined Armed Forces of the United States. Do they seriously believe that any significant portion of said Armed Forces would join them in a theoretical revolution?

For most of them it's idle fantasy, same as the lefty one where we magically have a perfected Communism sweep the globe. For some of them it's a little nastier than that. And yes, some of them imagine the Armed Forces are with them.

376 brookly red  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:51:33pm

re: #367 MandyManners

Whoa.

snark, just snark...

377 Racer X  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:51:47pm

re: #365 CapeCoddah

Well said.

Thank you.

378 jamesfirecat  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:52:04pm

re: #292 brookly red

you really do seem to have problems...

Hey I was only half being serrious, and I was only half serious because there's some proof that it works...

[Link: serendip.brynmawr.edu...]

379 CapeCoddah  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:52:16pm

Charles, if you have info you would like included in the e-mail I will send, please contact me with it. We can compose it together if you wish. I am not as educated on the tea party as you are, and may miss something important.

380 laZardo  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:52:18pm

re: #371 palomino

Would you say from reading posts that most people have a grasp of the "3 there's"? (not here, of course--LGF readers are a cut above--but everywhere else)

Spelling, punctuation, grammar, etc. -- these are all collateral damage from IM, tweeting, texting, etc.

And Lolcats. The Caturday Revolution is trying to bring down our glorious language institutions.

381 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:52:20pm

re: #245 palomino

Imagine the response of these folks if they were on the losing end of an election like 2000.

Wheeee!

382 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:52:31pm

re: #357 brookly red

I'd advise that you use a self imposed a seven second delay before making any jokes in the future. That one makes you look very bad, and not in a good way.

383 idioma  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:53:04pm

OT: has anyone else noticed a voting puppet named "Keli"?

384 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:53:17pm

re: #365 CapeCoddah

Yes, I can send the information relating to the tea parties management to his campaign manager and ask that he take a close look. I will send him an e-mail.
I looked a bit at the last thread. It saddens me that some folks do not understand that the average American who considers themselves a tea partier is painted with the same brush as say Buchannan or the gentleman/ noted in this thread.
For example, holding signs at the polls yesterday with me was an 89 year old man. He is a veteran of the battle of the bulge, a true American hero. He had a Lipton tea bag stapled onto his shirt pocket flap.
Should I have accused this man of being what Buchannan is? No. He is an ordinary guy protesting an overreaching government. Protesting the administrations hell bent for leather path to bankrupting this nation. He put his life on the line so that all of us, most of whom did not even exist yet, could remain free.
The average citizen has no idea who is at the top. They do not have the information Charles provides the few of us with, and I can guarantee they have never thought to look, because to them, it is simply a day to show up, excersise the right to assemble and protest what they wish to protest. Pretty American, all in all. I cannot blame the behavior of the management on the little guys, that is hidden from the individual members. Brown is not a radical. He is a man of the law, a soldier, and a good person. He has been Senator elect for 24 hours now, and to suggest he is some kind of radical because someone passed out a box of flags to supporters headed in to celebrate something we worked so hard to achieve, should not suggest he is a radical. It is extremely unfair to paint him as such when no one outside of Massachusetts the slightest clue who he is yet, simply because of a few photos of a flag.

Entirely Concur, and thank you for sending the info to his staff. He needs to be careful about embracing these people. I'm sure he will exercise that care, since he has a good head on his shoulders.

385 Racer X  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:53:17pm

Health Alert:

Gonorrhea Lectim

The Center for Disease Control has issued a warning about a new virulent strain of Sexually Transmitted Disease. The disease is contracted through dangerous and high-risk behavior. The disease is called Gonorrhea Lectim.. and pronounced "gonna re-elect-em."

Many victims contracted it in 2008, after having been screwed for the past two years. Naturalists and epidemiologists are amazed at how this destructive this disease has become since it is easily cured.......... by voting out all incumbents!

NOW GET BUSY AND STAMP OUT THIS DREADFUL DISEASE !!!!

386 brookly red  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:53:18pm

re: #382 Slumbering Behemoth

I'd advise that you use a self imposed a seven second delay before making any jokes in the future. That one makes you look very bad, and not in a good way.

noted and logged.

387 Mad Al-Jaffee  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:53:31pm

re: #346 Cato the Elder

It's a mute point.

For all intensive purposes, your right.

388 BruceKelly  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:53:49pm

re: #329 Varek Raith

Oy, you're really gonna re-hash the DHS memo???

Actually you hashed it up as the first comment on this thread I think.

389 laZardo  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:53:51pm

re: #355 Slumbering Behemoth

The TP movement has many heads. Most are ugly bungholes.

/fix'd.

390 captdiggs  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:54:03pm

re: #329 Varek Raith

Oy, you're really gonna re-hash the DHS memo???

You stated that it was correct.
Yet there is ONE person you can point to to make that statement. No conspiracy, no multiple person involvment in some terror plot. A lone nut.

To top it off, and possibly because of the DHS being off target, we have complete screwups on protecting from someone with explosives in their underwear, and of course a mass killing in the name of Islam at Fort Hood, that is a tragedy of political correctness.
Just today, the testimony at the capitol on the attempted Christmas day plane bombing exposed that the bomber was interrogated ONLY for a criminal prosecution and NOT for terrorist links and information concerning ongoing threats.

Downding all you want.

391 Mad Al-Jaffee  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:54:08pm
392 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:54:36pm

re: #365 CapeCoddah

I was looking for you earlier.

393 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:54:44pm

re: #390 captdiggs

Downding all you want.


Ok

394 idioma  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:54:45pm

re: #198 Dark_Falcon

What is with these people calling you gay? Why do they obsess about gayness so much? I don't get it.

Right wing homophobia is well documented. It's expected to be at the extremes. Just like rabid anti-military sentiments are consistently found on the fringe of the left.

395 jaunte  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:54:52pm

re: #383 idioma

I saw the nic go by recently. Maybe it's just a new lurker.

396 Irenicum  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:54:56pm

re: #333 The Sanity Inspector

You stole the non-word right out of my obsessive little head!

397 Varek Raith  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:54:57pm

re: #388 BruceKelly

Actually you hashed it up as the first comment on this thread I think.

True, what I meant was the 'DHS memo smeared all verterans' when it didn't meme.

398 Cato the Elder  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:55:00pm

re: #387 Mad Al-Jaffee

For all intensive purposes, your right.

Be sure to point that out to the powers to be when they come to take my dictionaries away...

399 freetoken  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:55:14pm

re: #390 captdiggs


Downding all you want.

Ok, glad to be of service.

Would you like a wake-up call with that?

400 The Sanity Inspector  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:55:21pm

re: #359 idioma

Terrorism is terrorism, a cross, crescent, horseshoe, rainbow, or red balloon makes little difference when you get buried under the rubble of a building. The DHS better keep it's eyes inward to this behavior or we'll have a lot of Timmy McVeigh "success stories" to recount to our children.

What world are we building from this free country of ours?

Our law enforcement in this country can walk and chew gum at the same time. I don't doubt that they can deal with (alleged) scum like this while also dealing with the much more ominous threat of The Jihad.

Well, actually I do doubt that latter bit, given how they were surprised by the Ft. Hood shooter and the undie bomber. But at least I know they're on the lookout.

One good thing: there's no multi-culti political correctness to stop people from bird-dogging dangerous and/or loathesome types in the Tea Party movement.

401 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:55:22pm

re: #281 idioma

How is this different from the Taliban? I can't even tell anymore.

Only one guy has a grenade launcher, and he's under arrest. That's for starters!

402 Kronocide  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:55:22pm

Somebody got their butthole touched.

403 jamesfirecat  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:55:45pm

re: #352 MandyManners

You don't need an erect penis in order to rape.

The idea is that cutting down on the testosterone in their bodies reduces the desire to have sex.

404 BruceKelly  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:55:49pm

re: #357 brookly red

/but I find it helps...

Some things just aren't funny.

405 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:55:54pm

Is there a place under a jail for anyone who owns a stolen grenade launcher?

406 Cato the Elder  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:56:16pm

re: #390 captdiggs

Downding all you want.

Thanks for the invite.

407 Kronocide  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:56:48pm

"Yeah baby, I got a big grenade launcher back at my mom's house. Wanna see it?"

408 Varek Raith  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:56:48pm

re: #398 Cato the Elder

Be sure to point that out to the powers to be when they come to take my dictionaries away...

That just begs the question...

409 idioma  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:56:59pm

re: #401 SanFranciscoZionist

Only one guy has a grenade launcher, and he's under arrest. That's for starters!

The report said three grenade launchers were missing. so I'll sleep a little lighter with that knowledge.

410 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:57:00pm

re: #383 idioma

OT: has anyone else noticed a voting puppet named "Keli"?

I doubt its a puppet. With things so active these past couple days, dinging is a bit more like what it used to be, with some people mostly lurking and dinging. That's most likely all it is.

411 Escaped Hillbilly  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:57:24pm

re: #401 SanFranciscoZionist

Only one guy has a grenade launcher, and he's under arrest. That's for starters!

Except apparently there are 2 more out there.

412 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:57:38pm

re: #317 captdiggs

Really?
You have exactly ONE person with which to pin that on.
How many Islamists have been arrested for serious and credible threats and acts versus veterans?
Consider that a goodly number of those in Federal Law enforcement are veterans.
The DHS memo was an insult to all veterans and was such an embarrassment to the administration that Napolitano had to apologize.

The fact that there is ONE person that may fit with that "report" is more akin to a broken clock being correct twice a day.

Each time it happens, we hear again that there is only one.

Don't talk nonsense.

413 albusteve  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:57:47pm

re: #402 BigPapa

Somebody got their butthole touched.

must have been a liberal...they like that sort of thing...anf if someones gonna go off on dingasm, please include me...I love downdings, I thrive on them

414 Racer X  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:57:47pm

re: #402 BigPapa

Somebody got their butthole touched.

Link?

NO! I'm kidding!

415 idioma  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:58:07pm

re: #413 albusteve

must have been a liberal...they like that sort of thing...anf if someones gonna go off on dingasm, please include me...I love downdings, I thrive on them

You are a bigot.

416 BruceKelly  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:58:34pm

re: #397 Varek Raith

Got it.

417 reine.de.tout  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:58:37pm

re: #408 Varek Raith

That just begs the question...

OK, a former poster here used to try to explain that one, and I never got it.
There is a correct way to use that phrase, but most people use in incorrectly, apparently.

What's the deal? Can you explain it in a way I'll understand it?

418 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:58:41pm

re: #386 brookly red

Not trying to jump your shit or anything, just trying to be helpful.

419 brookly red  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:58:47pm

re: #411 Escaped Hillbilly

Except apparently there are 2 more out there.

people or launchers?

420 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:59:00pm

re: #407 BigPapa

"Yeah baby, I got a big grenade launcher back at my mom's house. Wanna see it?"

"So, is that an M-203 or are you just glad to see me?"

/Sorry, I couldn't resist.

421 Daniel Ballard  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:59:00pm

re: #383 idioma

Downs?

422 brookly red  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:59:13pm

re: #418 Slumbering Behemoth

Not trying to jump your shit or anything, just trying to be helpful.

all good.

423 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:59:28pm

Whoa... Newsweek is not exactly a far right wing anti-agw publication, but they don't have anything nice to say about Copenhagen... for a matter of fact, they call it a failure...

The verdict on Copenhagen is in: guilty of failure. Every serious study of commitments made at the environmental summit shows it will fall short of its goal to cut carbon emissions sharply enough to hold off a 2-degree-Celsius rise in global temperatures. After the conference, the United Nations Environment Program found that the world had locked in less than half of the greenhouse-gas reductions needed to provide a 50-50 chance of preventing the temperature increase by 2050. A second study by MIT, Ventana Systems, and the U.S.-based Sustainability Institute calculated that Copenhagen's proposals will likely leave the world 3.9 degrees warmer by 2100. A third report from Germany's Potsdam Institute found that even if every Copenhagen proposal is fully funded, average global temperatures will be 3.2 degrees higher by century's end.

[Link: blog.newsweek.com...]

424 Varek Raith  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:59:36pm

re: #417 reine.de.tout

OK, a former poster here used to try to explain that one, and I never got it.
There is a correct way to use that phrase, but most people use in incorrectly, apparently.

What's the deal? Can you explain it in a way I'll understand it?

Here you go.
:)

425 Kronocide  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 7:59:38pm

re: #413 albusteve

No, it was somebody's DHS butthole that got touched.

This is for Racer, a classic:

426 The Sanity Inspector  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:00:07pm

re: #383 idioma

OT: has anyone else noticed a voting puppet named "Keli"?

Yes. I've gotten a few updings from it. Why do you say it's a puppet, rather than a lurker?

427 idioma  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:00:25pm

re: #421 Rightwingconspirator

There was a pattern of ups and downs that was suspiciously consistent, but I'm not pointing fingers because it's possibly a lurker, just something I thought Charles might want to look into. IPs tell most.

428 albusteve  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:00:25pm

re: #412 SanFranciscoZionist

Each time it happens, we hear again that there is only one.

Don't talk nonsense.

the likelihood that you get blown to bits parking you car at work is much greater than whatever this boob can do...good grief, how paranoid can you get?

429 Daniel Ballard  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:00:33pm

re: #423 Walter L. Newton

As Jon Stewart seemed to say, also hardly a hard right winger.

430 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:01:29pm

re: #423 Walter L. Newton

Why? Because it was a failure?

Someone other than me is defining "failure".

431 albusteve  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:01:33pm

re: #415 idioma

You are a bigot.

so are you...and your momma wears combat boots!

432 Escaped Hillbilly  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:01:33pm

re: #419 brookly red

people or launchers?

Dunno. Launchers, definitely. Did he have the others and sell them? Did 2 other guys also steal lauchers? Here's a crazy question...what the heck is that unit doing leaving grenade launchers where they could be stolen? No unit I have ever served in kept them outside a locked arms room except when issued for use. Would really like to hear the backstory on that one.

433 andres  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:01:38pm

re: #159 keloyd

While I'm ranting, don't bleep "damn" when used correctly! Its just like how dog breeders can say "bitch" and Spanish speakers can say "negro" with impunity, but not so much the rest of us.

I downding you for this atrocious snide.

The word "negro" in Spanish, depending on context, the country of origin, and the tone, takes a lot of meaning, including as a couple's endearment talk. On rare occasions it is equivalent to the N-word.

If you are not familiar with what you are about to say, just shut up and don't say it.

434 Varek Raith  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:01:48pm

re: #428 albusteve

the likelihood that you get blown to bits parking you car at work is much greater than whatever this boob can do...good grief, how paranoid can you get?

You do realize, of course, that this also could apply to terrorism, yes?

435 Altermite  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:02:02pm

Hug and make up, y'all.re: #417 reine.de.tout

OK, a former poster here used to try to explain that one, and I never got it.
There is a correct way to use that phrase, but most people use in incorrectly, apparently.

What's the deal? Can you explain it in a way I'll understand it?

If I'm not mistaken, that isn't the way to use it, but is the way most people use it.

(as I understand it)Its a fallacy where you assume something is true while building up to your proof.

He's using it to mean "that brings up the question..."

436 idioma  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:02:10pm

re: #428 albusteve

the likelihood that you get blown to bits parking you car at work is much greater than whatever this boob can do...good grief, how paranoid can you get?

What me worry?

Oh yeah, that.

437 reine.de.tout  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:02:22pm

re: #424 Varek Raith

Here you go.
:)

OK.
Well, I've got it for the moment.
But I will have forgotten it by tomorrow morning.
Except I will remember that "begs the question" does not mean "raises the question".

438 CapeCoddah  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:02:30pm

re: #392 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Saw that.

439 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:02:34pm

re: #430 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Why? Because it was a failure?

Someone other than me is defining "failure".

I've been told it wasn't a failure. Newsweek says it is. I guess it all depends on ones agenda, facts don't matter.

440 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:02:46pm

re: #407 BigPapa

I thought the line was "Say hello to my little friend".

/

441 idioma  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:02:54pm

re: #431 albusteve

It's a little early to be trolling.

442 BruceKelly  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:02:59pm

re: #426 The Sanity Inspector

Yes. I've gotten a few updings from it. Why do you say it's a puppet, rather than a lurker?

Downdings?

443 brookly red  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:03:10pm

re: #432 Escaped Hillbilly

Dunno. Launchers, definitely. Did he have the others and sell them? Did 2 other guys also steal lauchers? Here's a crazy question...what the heck is that unit doing leaving grenade launchers where they could be stolen? No unit I have ever served in kept them outside a locked arms room except when issued for use. Would really like to hear the backstory on that one.

seems that a lot of stuff is turning up in Mexico...

444 Kruk  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:03:12pm

re: #424 Varek Raith

Here you go.
:)

Something I've always wondered. Is a question like "Have you stopped beating your wife yet?" (when there is no evidence that the person is beating his wife) also a form of begging the question?

445 captdiggs  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:03:21pm

re: #412 SanFranciscoZionist

Each time it happens, we hear again that there is only one.

Don't talk nonsense.

Care to recount all the right wing extremist plots associated with the "tea party" that have been uncovered with suspects arrested?
Even in this case, there has so far been no mention of some vast plot.

There's a lot of left wing hysteria here.
Sometimes I think it's just the mirror image of Glen Beck's hysteria.

446 Mad Al-Jaffee  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:03:25pm

re: #425 BigPapa

Mr. Show upding!

447 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:03:36pm

re: #402 BigPapa

???

In the context of this topic, that doesn't really sound like a good comment to make.

448 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:03:36pm

re: #411 Escaped Hillbilly

Except apparently there are 2 more out there.

Well, heck.

449 laZardo  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:04:04pm

Lunch, BBL.

450 Racer X  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:04:28pm
451 Irenicum  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:04:43pm

Looking at tonight's thread reminds me that I think I picked the wrong day to quit smoking!

452 Altermite  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:05:08pm

...and that first bit found its way in from an IM program.

453 Varek Raith  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:05:28pm

re: #444 Kruk

Something I've always wondered. Is a question like "Have you stopped beating your wife yet?" (when there is no evidence that the person is beating his wife) also a form of begging the question?

I'm pretty sure that would be the 'loaded question' fallacy.

454 albusteve  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:05:35pm

re: #441 idioma

It's a little early to be trolling.

fuck you moron...I don't give a shit what goes on in that pea brain of yours, besides the entertainment value

455 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:05:52pm

re: #445 captdiggs

Nice, now you're comparing Lizards to Glen Beck, simply because you disagree with them.

GAZE

456 Daniel Ballard  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:05:57pm

re: #451 Irenicum

Hang in there! Using the patch?

457 prairiefire  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:06:01pm

I think it's really commendable that this site and the posters on it are having this discussion. The conservatives were really excited about Brown's win last night. It would be very easy to just turn away from the computer and revel in victory.
Congrats to capecoddah for last night's win and for fully addressing this situation tonight. She worked really hard on a campaign and for ideals she believes in.

458 freetoken  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:06:12pm

re: #423 Walter L. Newton

Whoa... Newsweek is not exactly a far right wing anti-agw publication, but they don't have anything nice to say about Copenhagen...

Why are you presupposing that a non-"right wing anti-agw publication" would not call COP 15 a "failure".

Clearly COP 15 did not achieve the results the (majority of the) parties had hoped when in Bali they prepared for it. Using that criteria, of course COP 15 was a failure.

However, there are very many ways to analyze the current world wide political struggles to deal with AGW (as well as a host of sustainability issues), and those who believe that a carbon tax/fee is a better approach might take heart that cap and trade is declining in political desirability.

Of course, whether or not any meaningful solution can be found to avoid a climate disaster by man's hand is another is another whole point of contention... just ask Cato the Doomer.

459 Cato the Elder  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:06:14pm

re: #417 reine.de.tout

OK, a former poster here used to try to explain that one, and I never got it.
There is a correct way to use that phrase, but most people use in incorrectly, apparently.

What's the deal? Can you explain it in a way I'll understand it?

Simple: "to beg the question" means to assume the truth of a proposition without proving it. For example, "Pit bullls are dangerous because they're unpredictable." Pit bulls may be dangerous, but you can't just state that they're unpredictable. You have to demonstrate that to be a fact.

The common misusage could be avoided if people would just say "that raises the question.

460 idioma  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:06:15pm

re: #454 albusteve

Classy!

461 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:06:27pm

re: #428 albusteve

the likelihood that you get blown to bits parking you car at work is much greater than whatever this boob can do...good grief, how paranoid can you get?

Paranoid? I'm in favor of law enforcement, that's all. I realize you think it's a waste of hard-earned money.

462 Kronocide  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:06:35pm

re: #447 Slumbering Behemoth

???

In the context of this topic, that doesn't really sound like a good comment to make.

Uh.. I guess you're right in that the original topic is about a Tea Drinker under arrest for rape. But I made the comment about somebody being irked about the DHS memo being right, so that's what I commented about, see my Mr Show link.

An uncouth eruption at worst, sorry.

463 albusteve  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:06:38pm

re: #443 brookly red

seems that a lot of stuff is turning up in Mexico...

money talks and the cartels have plenty of it

464 The Left  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:06:50pm

re: #417 reine.de.tout

OK, a former poster here used to try to explain that one, and I never got it.
There is a correct way to use that phrase, but most people use in incorrectly, apparently.

What's the deal? Can you explain it in a way I'll understand it?

Yes. Begging the question is a logical fallacy in which you assume your conclusion in one of the premises. So for example, if I said
1. Obama hates America
2. Obama is a Commie
and 'concluded', "therefore, Obama hates America", I just begged the question-- I begged the question of whether or not Obama hates America by assuming he does from the get-go.

Most people use it colloquially to mean something like "the question needs to be asked". That's technically an incorrect usage, but it's so prevalent now that you'll see it used in that way far more than you will the correct usage, the one which points to the logical fallacy.
Also known as petito princippi

465 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:07:04pm

re: #403 jamesfirecat

The idea is that cutting down on the testosterone in their bodies reduces the desire to have sex.

Here is the problem: A serial rapist's/molester's activities do not stem solely from a desire to have sex, but from a desire to dominate, brutalize and torture. They can continue to do so without testosterone or testicles. Some of them weren't even born with testicles.

466 albusteve  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:07:27pm

re: #460 idioma

Classy!

calling me a troll is very classy!...you want a cookie nitwit?

467 prairiefire  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:07:29pm

re: #451 Irenicum

Good luck with that. The nic patch really helped me.

468 Cato the Elder  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:07:32pm

re: #423 Walter L. Newton

Whoa... Newsweek is not exactly a far right wing anti-agw publication, but they don't have anything nice to say about Copenhagen... for a matter of fact, they call it a failure...

[Link: blog.newsweek.com...]

Imagine my surprise.

469 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:07:43pm

Haven't seen this mentioned.

Charles? Whatever change you made is wonderful for following the thread up. Now if we follow five, ten or three comments up, we only have to close one window now.

Anybody noticed that? Time to say thanks!

Thanks Charles!

470 Mad Al-Jaffee  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:07:48pm

re: #459 Cato the Elder

[Link: www.theonion.com...]

471 Irenicum  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:08:18pm

re: #456 Rightwingconspirator

Actually, I've never smoked. Just using a classic Airplane line in light of tonight's flaming.

472 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:08:44pm

re: #462 BigPapa

Also not trying to jump your shit either, just trying to be helpful.

473 albusteve  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:08:59pm

re: #461 SanFranciscoZionist

Paranoid? I'm in favor of law enforcement, that's all. I realize you think it's a waste of hard-earned money.

how's that?...you seem confused...if you go back up thread you will see I have all the confidence that LE will manage these problems....tora tora tora dude

474 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:09:04pm

re: #471 Irenicum

And you used it well.

475 idioma  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:09:10pm

re: #465 Slumbering Behemoth

Here is the problem: A serial rapist's/molester's activities do not stem solely from a desire to have sex, but from a desire to dominate, brutalize and torture. They can continue to do so without testosterone or testicles. Some of them weren't even born with testicles.

Generally speaking of great apes, testosterone is the drug of aggression. Without it you can typically condition an individual to be relatively passive regardless of gender.

476 Varek Raith  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:09:33pm

re: #460 idioma

Why are you baiting albusteve?

477 Shiplord Kirel  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:09:53pm

I was going to dive into the Fever Swamp to check their reaction (if any) to this but Free Republic seems to be down (502 proxy error).
I know how disappointed you all are.

478 BruceKelly  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:09:54pm

re: #467 prairiefire

Good luck with that. The nic patch really helped me.

I tried the gum. It worked great. I can't stand gum anymore.

479 jamesfirecat  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:09:56pm

re: #465 Slumbering Behemoth

Here is the problem: A serial rapist's/molester's activities do not stem solely from a desire to have sex, but from a desire to dominate, brutalize and torture. They can continue to do so without testosterone or testicles. Some of them weren't even born with testicles.

I'm not saying its a perfect way to do it, but like I said there have been studies [Link: serendip.brynmawr.edu...] that show its possible that chemical castration helps cut down on the rate of recidivism among those people.

[Link: serendip.brynmawr.edu...]

I'm not saying its a perfect cure, I'm saying that its an option that people should be able to choose if they think that it will help them control themselves.

I'm not trying to argue that we should actually chemically castrate people against their will....

480 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:10:07pm

re: #476 Varek Raith

Sometimes people do that. Never really understood it.

481 idioma  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:10:26pm

I am not. He baited me with a silly personal attack. I called him out for trolling. I will not defend an illogical position of baseless attacks of character.

482 The Sanity Inspector  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:10:30pm
483 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:10:34pm

re: #478 BruceKelly

That's comedy.

484 Irenicum  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:11:57pm

re: #474 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Thank you!

485 reine.de.tout  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:12:08pm

re: #459 Cato the Elder

Simple: "to beg the question" means to assume the truth of a proposition without proving it. For example, "Pit bullls are dangerous because they're unpredictable." Pit bulls may be dangerous, but you can't just state that they're unpredictable. You have to demonstrate that to be a fact.

The common misusage could be avoided if people would just say "that raises the question.

OK.
Now - please bear with me.

If I said:
Pit bulls are unpredictable - for instance, they may appear to be friendly and then suddenly attack, unprovoked. This unpredictability is one reason why pit bulls are dangerous.

Would THAT also be "begging the question", or have I sufficiently explained the unpredictability?

486 CapeCoddah  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:12:22pm

re: #457 prairiefire

Aw,,,shucks...

487 Lidane  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:12:28pm

re: #339 reine.de.tout

Or "tact" when they mean to say "tack".
Or, "pack" when they mean to say "pact".

Or saying their interest was "peaked" instead of "piqued".

488 albusteve  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:12:29pm

re: #476 Varek Raith

Why are you baiting albusteve?

they just like it...it's an ego thing

489 Spare O'Lake  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:13:00pm
490 reine.de.tout  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:13:01pm

re: #469 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Haven't seen this mentioned.

Charles? Whatever change you made is wonderful for following the thread up. Now if we follow five, ten or three comments up, we only have to close one window now.

Anybody noticed that? Time to say thanks!

Thanks Charles!

I noticed. I like it too. I just have to remember to use the "go back" button if I want to see the previous comment. But it's much better, imo.

491 Escaped Hillbilly  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:13:20pm

re: #459 Cato the Elder

Hah, too true. I had a service school instructor who consistently misused words in an attempt to sound more educated than he was. He was pretty knowledgeable about his subject matter but made himself sound stupid. It would be better to use a five cent word correctly.
When he pointed to a slide and said, "If you would just follow this allegory, you'll pass the test." We had a hard time believing him.

492 Varek Raith  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:13:53pm

re: #481 idioma

I am not. He baited me with a silly personal attack. I called him out for trolling. I will not defend an illogical position of baseless attacks of character.

Then perhaps you should not engage in such attacks, yourself?

493 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:13:56pm

re: #475 idioma

Testosterone serves many purposes, and is a lot more than just a "drug of aggression". Don't go into 167 IQ territory with this.

494 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:13:59pm

re: #468 Cato the Elder

Imagine my surprise.

Yea... FREETOKEN seemed surprised too. You see, I've been told right here on LGF that Copenhagen was not a failure, over and over by a number of Lizards very concerned about climate change. I was just surprised that any source (except right wing bias sources) would have come out and simply called it a failure.

My surprise.

495 albusteve  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:14:06pm

re: #489 Spare O'Lake

Good Evening LGF.
Is everybody happy?

[Video]

cool...I yam

496 idioma  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:14:37pm

re: #492 Varek Raith

You mean when I called him a bigot?

497 CapeCoddah  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:14:50pm

re: #481 idioma

Oh, for christ sake, everyone grow the hell up. My granddaughter wont get into stupid arguments like that and she is not 4yet.

498 Cato the Elder  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:14:51pm

re: #487 Lidane

Or saying their interest was "peaked" instead of "piqued".

Or "he perked up his ears" instead of "pricked". Or "she was chomping at the bit" instead of "champing".

499 Irenicum  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:14:52pm

re: #489 Spare O'Lake

Absolutely fabulous!

500 The Sanity Inspector  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:14:56pm

re: #487 Lidane

Or saying their interest was "peaked" instead of "piqued".

Or...*shudder*...when someone confuses "discrete" and "discreet".

501 Escaped Hillbilly  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:14:58pm

re: #463 albusteve

The Mexican authorities are finally giving them a run for it though. They (cops) deserve a lot more support from us than they get.

502 albusteve  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:15:39pm

re: #496 idioma

You mean when I called him a bigot?

how am I a bigot?

503 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:15:48pm

re: #458 freetoken

Why are you presupposing that a non-"right wing anti-agw publication" would not call COP 15 a "failure".

Clearly COP 15 did not achieve the results the (majority of the) parties had hoped when in Bali they prepared for it. Using that criteria, of course COP 15 was a failure.

However, there are very many ways to analyze the current world wide political struggles to deal with AGW (as well as a host of sustainability issues), and those who believe that a carbon tax/fee is a better approach might take heart that cap and trade is declining in political desirability.

Of course, whether or not any meaningful solution can be found to avoid a climate disaster by man's hand is another is another whole point of contention... just ask Cato the Doomer.

I've been told by a lot of people that it wasn't a failure. I'm confused. But it doesn't matter, you're happy with the outcome it seems.

Sort of like going down with the ship, huh?

504 idioma  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:16:19pm

re: #493 Slumbering Behemoth

well of course it does a lot more! hormones are very complex chemicals that the best science still merely scratches the surface of. This fact does not change the well documented evidence regarding the effects of increased testosterone levels in apes.

And what's with the IQ remark?

505 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:16:38pm

re: #479 jamesfirecat

I'm not trying to argue that we should actually chemically castrate people against their will...

I hope you don't think I believed you were. I was simply addressing a flaw in the argument for castration of serial rapist's/molester's. I did not mean to imply you were in favor of such action.

506 brookly red  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:16:44pm

re: #502 albusteve

how am I a bigot?

/that's easy, you reject liberal thinking.

507 mich-again  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:16:58pm

re: #500 The Sanity Inspector

Or...*shudder*...when someone confuses "discrete" and "discreet".


It seems about every day I see someone mix up loose and lose. Geesh.

508 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:17:11pm

re: #504 idioma

Talking above my head, anyway.

509 Daniel Ballard  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:17:23pm

re: #498 Cato the Elder

You guys are going to make me find a thesaurus add on for my browsers huh?

510 Mad Al-Jaffee  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:17:28pm

re: #489 Spare O'Lake

Good Evening LGF.
Is everybody happy?

[Video]

I am.

511 Cato the Elder  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:17:32pm

re: #485 reine.de.tout

OK.
Now - please bear with me.

If I said:
Pit bulls are unpredictable - for instance, they may appear to be friendly and then suddenly attack, unprovoked. This unpredictability is one reason why pit bulls are dangerous.

Would THAT also be "begging the question", or have I sufficiently explained the unpredictability?

Simply saying they're unpredictable does not make it so. Have you ever met a friendly pit bull who suddenly attacked you? Have you got studies to show this happens more with pit bulls than other dogs?

512 jamesfirecat  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:17:37pm

re: #505 Slumbering Behemoth

I hope you don't think I believed you were. I was simply addressing a flaw in the argument for castration of serial rapist's/molester's. I did not mean to imply you were in favor of such action.

Its okay I didn't think you were suggesting I was I just wanted to cover all my bases.

After all I know there are female serial rapists out there....

513 albusteve  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:17:59pm

re: #501 Escaped Hillbilly

The Mexican authorities are finally giving them a run for it though. They (cops) deserve a lot more support from us than they get.

no kidding...it is very close to anarchy down there...not the flag waving trumped up sort people here are afraid of...the real deal, thousands are dying and the vast majority are innocent of any crime

514 idioma  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:18:05pm

re: #502 albusteve

Your comments about the left were heavily laced with homophobia. I stand by my statement.

515 Decatur Deb  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:18:07pm

Wearing down in CST zone. 'Nite, all.

516 Spare O'Lake  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:18:12pm

re: #495 albusteve

cool...I yam

Excellent, me too.

517 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:18:15pm

re: #498 Cato the Elder

Or "he perked up his ears" instead of "pricked". Or "she was chomping at the bit" instead of "champing".

Wow. That's ironic.

(runs away laughing)

518 BruceKelly  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:18:53pm

re: #483 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

That's comedy.

Thank you. I'm here every week.

519 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:18:54pm

re: #501 Escaped Hillbilly

The Mexican authorities are finally giving them a run for it though. They (cops) deserve a lot more support from us than they get.

We have to be pretty careful about how we support them. Too much of the Mexican public will still instinctively turn on any perceived as "Yankee Imperialism". So we often support too little, rather than too much to prevent a PR backlash.

520 prairiefire  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:19:05pm

re: #515 Decatur Deb

Wearing down in CST zone. 'Nite, all.

Me, too. Night.

521 Irenicum  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:19:39pm

re: #518 BruceKelly

Have the chicken, we're here till Thursday!

522 idioma  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:19:41pm

re: #519 Dark_Falcon

We have to be pretty careful about how we support them. Too much of the Mexican public will still instinctively turn on any perceived as "Yankee Imperialism". So we often support too little, rather than too much to prevent a PR backlash.

Quite Concur!

523 albusteve  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:19:47pm

re: #506 brookly red

/that's easy, you reject liberal thinking.

what a boob...at least back up an accusation like that...just because I wanna nuke the Grand Canyon doesn't count, does it?

524 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:19:59pm

re: #511 Cato the Elder

My dog (he sleeps with us) sometimes has "night terrors" and attacks us.

Rocky is 4 years old and 5 1/2 pounds of thunder.

525 mich-again  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:20:00pm

re: #511 Cato the Elder

Have you got studies to show this happens more with pit bulls than other dogs?

Well, other dogs might get snippy as often, but they don't tend to rip limbs off when they do.

526 brookly red  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:20:02pm

re: #506 brookly red

/that's easy, you reject liberal thinking.

oh and I was gonna say homophobic too, but some one already went there...

527 idioma  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:20:41pm

re: #524 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

My dog (he sleeps with us) sometimes has "night terrors" and attacks us.

Rocky is 4 years old and 5 1/2 pounds of thunder.

*Spit Take!*

528 albusteve  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:20:49pm

re: #514 idioma

Your comments about the left were heavily laced with homophobia. I stand by my statement.

I'm a homo myself...explain

529 The Sanity Inspector  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:20:54pm

re: #510 Mad Al-Jaffee

I am.


[Video]

Me too.

530 Varek Raith  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:21:31pm

re: #523 albusteve

what a boob...at least back up an accusation like that...just because I wanna nuke the Grand Canyon doesn't count, does it?

Huh, I'd figure you'd wanna nuke a forest, or some such...
/What did the Grand Canyon ever do to you?!
//

531 reine.de.tout  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:21:37pm

re: #511 Cato the Elder

Simply saying they're unpredictable does not make it so. Have you ever met a friendly pit bull who suddenly attacked you? Have you got studies to show this happens more with pit bulls than other dogs?

OK.
Got it. The description of actions causing me to come to a conclusion of unpredictability are not sufficient. I have to point to actual demonstrations or studies.

Thank you!

532 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:21:38pm

re: #528 albusteve

Totally un pc... But made me laugh. So... DING!

533 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:21:44pm

re: #504 idioma

A former commenter asshole here bragged about having an I.Q. of 167, and would go on long tirades about how evil testosterone (and by extension, all men) truly is.

534 brookly red  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:22:06pm

re: #528 albusteve

I'm a homo myself...explain

/your not a liberal... you must hate your self.

535 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:22:38pm

re: #522 idioma

Quite Concur!

I am assuming that you are saying that to agree with me and not to mock me, correct?

536 Escaped Hillbilly  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:22:38pm

re: #519 Dark_Falcon

We have to be pretty careful about how we support them. Too much of the Mexican public will still instinctively turn on any perceived as "Yankee Imperialism". So we often support too little, rather than too much to prevent a PR backlash.

As we are beginning to see in the Haiti earthquake assistance area? Too right, just enough, not enough, too much...you can't win sometimes.

537 idioma  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:22:56pm

#413re: #533 Slumbering Behemoth

That is absurd. Aggression can be mitigated. A chemical cannot be directly linked to evil. It's an idea far and away from any science.

538 albusteve  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:22:58pm

re: #530 Varek Raith

Huh, I'd figure you'd wanna nuke a forest, or some such...
/What did the Grand Canyon ever do to you?!
//

it's taking up space better used for interment camps...plenty of water, far away from the hub bub

539 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:23:01pm

re: #527 idioma

*Spit Take!*

We're a very rare family. Our dog viciously attacks us? We giggle.

540 idioma  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:24:03pm

re: #528 albusteve

I'm a homo myself...explain

Comment #413


Somebody got their butthole touched.

must have been a liberal...they like that sort of thing...

Your orientation adds no merit to this generalization.

541 albusteve  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:24:07pm

re: #532 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Totally un pc... But made me laugh. So... DING!

I'm talking Sapien...wtf is going on?

542 Cato the Elder  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:24:16pm

re: #525 mich-again

Well, other dogs might get snippy as often, but they don't tend to rip limbs off when they do.

I was using it as an example of the logical fallacy called "begging the question". But Iceweasel's explanation was clearer.

On the subject of real dogs, though, my 40-pound Jindo recently mixed it up with a neighbor's pit bull. It came out a draw.

The pit bull gets a lot of bad press but it's mostly urban legend. It's not the breed, it's the way the dog is trained.

543 brookly red  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:25:09pm

re: #485 reine.de.tout

OK.
Now - please bear with me.

If I said:
Pit bulls are unpredictable - for instance, they may appear to be friendly and then suddenly attack, unprovoked. This unpredictability is one reason why pit bulls are dangerous.

Would THAT also be "begging the question", or have I sufficiently explained the unpredictability?

I have raised many a pit bull & I respectfully disagree.

544 Escaped Hillbilly  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:25:10pm

re: #530 Varek Raith

Huh, I'd figure you'd wanna nuke a forest, or some such...
/What did the Grand Canyon ever do to you?!
//

Kinda pointless too. I't's already a big hole. (Thought I'd add to the dead meme just to keep it alive.//)

545 idioma  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:25:18pm

re: #535 Dark_Falcon

I agree with you from time to time. We come from opposing perspectives, but we can share observations. I mean nothing of malice by this remark. I can agree with a statement even if the source often conflicts.

546 BruceKelly  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:25:22pm

re: #319 reine.de.tout

And don't even get him started on the proper use of apostrophes (apostrophe's?).

I hate the terms, "at this point in time" when you could just say "now" or, and this one really gets me, "utilize" instead of "use."

errr...

547 laZardo  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:25:28pm

re: #501 Escaped Hillbilly

The Mexican authorities are finally giving them a run for it though. They (cops) deserve a lot more support from us than they get.

Like Denzel Washington.

/Man on Fire was a cool movie. :D

548 albusteve  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:26:30pm

re: #540 idioma

Your orientation adds no merit to this generalization.

'touching butthole' comments hardly deserve a serious reply...I'm no bigot, but you might be a twit...God will decide that, not me

549 idioma  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:26:48pm

re: #547 laZardo

Was that the movie with the ass-bomb and a NIN soundtrack?

550 reine.de.tout  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:27:00pm

re: #543 brookly red

I have raised many a pit bull & I respectfully disagree.

It's an example.
I've known pit bulls.

551 idioma  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:27:09pm

re: #548 albusteve

'touching butthole' comments hardly deserve a serious reply...I'm no bigot, but you might be a twit...God will decide that, not me

Which god?

552 Varek Raith  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:27:11pm

re: #540 idioma

Your orientation adds no merit to this generalization.

I think you're misreading his comment.

553 Mad Al-Jaffee  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:27:20pm

re: #529 The Sanity Inspector

So's Jack.

554 Cato the Elder  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:27:37pm

re: #546 BruceKelly

I hate the terms, "at this point in time" when you could just say "now" or, and this one really gets me, "utilize" instead of "use."

errr...

I can't even stand the phrase "the fact that..." anymore. It's begging the question in three words.

555 BruceKelly  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:27:47pm

re: #521 Irenicum

Have the chicken, we're here till Thursday!

Hedwig?

556 The Sanity Inspector  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:28:12pm

re: #546 BruceKelly

I hate the terms, "at this point in time" when you could just say "now" or, and this one really gets me, "utilize" instead of "use."

errr...

And how many poor innocent nouns over the past recent decades have been brutalized into service as verbs?

557 Mad Al-Jaffee  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:28:22pm

re: #530 Varek Raith

Huh, I'd figure you'd wanna nuke a forest, or some such...
/
//

Or blow up the moon.

558 brookly red  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:28:23pm

re: #550 reine.de.tout

It's an example.
I've known pit bulls.

they are so cute when you rub their bellies & they growl....

559 Irenicum  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:28:26pm

re: #511 Cato the Elder

I assume there have been studies done regarding the breeding of various pet breeds by their respective breeding organizations. Terrier "Pit" Bulls have been bred by many in order to fight, so they do seem to be more prone to "snapping" than other breeds. But nonetheless I've know Pit Bull owners who treat their pets humanely and the dogs have acted fine. Once again, just like humans, its a combination of nature and nurture playing into the equation. It's not an either or, it's a both and.

560 Varek Raith  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:28:39pm

re: #554 Cato the Elder

I can't even stand the phrase "the fact that..." anymore. It's begging the question in three words.

Anyone using 'irregardless' drives me bonkers.

561 albusteve  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:28:41pm

re: #551 idioma

Which god?

yours, I don't have one...why don't you just be a good guy and apologize for calling me a bigot?...then all will be cool again

562 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:28:48pm

re: #536 Escaped Hillbilly

As we are beginning to see in the Haiti earthquake assistance area? Too right, just enough, not enough, too much...you can't win sometimes.

Sometimes people are determined to attack you to satisfy their own emotions, regardless of the facts. I saw that first back in grade school, and it got worse in high school, and then disappeared in college. But I see it again here and on other blogs. Those sorts of attacks are what trolling is all about. So if anyone wonders why I always side with Charles when he gets attacked like that, one of the reasons is I've experienced what people do to him, and I cann't stand seeing a good man attacked.

563 mich-again  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:29:04pm

re: #542 Cato the Elder

The pit bull gets a lot of bad press but it's mostly urban legend. It's not the breed, it's the way the dog is trained.

Oh its not just training. Respectable breeders will breed out aggressiveness. (Their tactics may not sound very nice though..) But not all people breeding Staffordshire Terriers or Pit Bulls are respectable. I think you can train aggressiveness, but I'm not so sure you can untrain it.

564 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:29:38pm

Goodnight Knuckleheads.

565 The Sanity Inspector  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:29:53pm

re: #553 Mad Al-Jaffee

So's Jack.


[Video]

And for those who aren't happy...

566 CapeCoddah  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:30:15pm

Night FBV,, careful of that beast...

567 Varek Raith  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:30:26pm

re: #564 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Goodnight Knuckleheads.

Good night, Hugh Manatee!
:)

568 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:30:27pm

re: #562 Dark_Falcon

Infinity ding.

569 reine.de.tout  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:30:29pm

re: #546 BruceKelly

I hate the terms, "at this point in time" when you could just say "now" or, and this one really gets me, "utilize" instead of "use."

errr...

"simplistic" instead of "simple".
There are tons of them.
I think some people think they sound smarter when they use the more complicated phrase or word. But they don't.

570 Cato the Elder  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:31:10pm

re: #564 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Goodnight Knuckleheads.

Same to you, numbnuts!

I'm going to watch "Kill Bill 1" for the first time and hope it unharshes my buzz.

571 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:31:19pm

re: #545 idioma

I agree with you from time to time. We come from opposing perspectives, but we can share observations. I mean nothing of malice by this remark. I can agree with a statement even if the source often conflicts.

Thank you for that. I agree with that sentiment entirely.

572 laZardo  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:31:34pm

re: #549 idioma

Was that the movie with the ass-bomb and a NIN soundtrack?

"I WISH, I WISH YOU HAD MORE TIME."

/yep, that one.

573 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:31:38pm

re: #564 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Knuckleheads? Forget you, man. Forget you.
:cries in his beer:

G'nite you lovable Bastard.

574 Varek Raith  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:31:41pm

re: #570 Cato the Elder

Same to you, numbnuts!

I'm going to watch "Kill Bill 1" for the first time and hope it unharshes my buzz.

There's a plant for that...

575 idioma  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:31:43pm

re: #561 albusteve

I'm an atheist buddy. You're barking up the wrong tree. But if you were wrong about me, I believe I could be wrong about you, and I am willing to apologize.

576 albusteve  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:31:47pm

re: #569 reine.de.tout

"simplistic" instead of "simple".
There are tons of them.
I think some people think they sound smarter when they use the more complicated phrase or word. But they don't.

simplicity is the ultimate sophistication

577 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:31:55pm

re: #569 reine.de.tout

myself.

I hate it when people say "myself" improperly.

Self-indulgent bullshit.

"Allow myself to introduce... myself"
-Austin Powers.

Oh, I said goodnight.

578 idioma  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:32:15pm

re: #572 laZardo

Classic!

579 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:32:31pm

re: #570 Cato the Elder

Ever seen Fist of the Northstar?

580 Daniel Ballard  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:33:06pm

re: #550 reine.de.tout

O/T
Looking at NOLA weather radar- Wow. We are getting a lot less than that and we have burn area evacuations.

581 Kruk  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:33:08pm

re: #560 Varek Raith

Anyone using 'irregardless' drives me bonkers.

That's because you misunderestimate its value.

582 albusteve  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:33:09pm

re: #575 idioma

I'm an atheist buddy. You're barking up the wrong tree. But if you were wrong about me, I believe I could be wrong about you, and I am willing to apologize.

well?

583 laZardo  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:33:12pm

re: #570 Cato the Elder

Same to you, numbnuts!

I'm going to watch "Kill Bill 1" for the first time and hope it unharshes my buzz.

Buzz THAT. O:

584 Cato the Elder  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:33:19pm

re: #579 Slumbering Behemoth

Ever seen Fist of the Northstar?

Nuh-uh...

585 idioma  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:33:35pm

re: #579 Slumbering Behemoth

Ever seen Fist of the Northstar?

That's one intense animation. and perhaps the best unintentional comedy of the 20th century.

586 idioma  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:34:19pm

re: #582 albusteve

If I am mistaken about you, then I owe you an apology. Sorry I considered you a bigot.

587 mich-again  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:34:27pm

re: #576 albusteve

simplicity is the ultimate sophistication


Ingenuity is very chic these days.

588 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:34:34pm

re: #562 Dark_Falcon

Sometimes people are determined to attack you to satisfy their own emotions, regardless of the facts. I saw that first back in grade school, and it got worse in high school, and then disappeared in college. But I see it again here and on other blogs. Those sorts of attacks are what trolling is all about. So if anyone wonders why I always side with Charles when he gets attacked like that, one of the reasons is I've experienced what people do to him, and I cann't stand seeing a good man attacked.

And to elaborate on what you are saying, that is the precise reason I get disgusted when people take JOY in beating up on these idiots who attack Charles or even us.

I don't take any joy in beating up on these idiots, or fighting with them. It needs to be done, but it's sick to get pleasure out of it. It just like that grade school and high school sort of sick enjoyment.

No, I find whacking trolls fun, necessary but not something to enjoy. Enjoying it is sick.

589 The Sanity Inspector  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:35:07pm

re: #587 mich-again

Ingenuity is very chic these days.

Ooh, ooh: ingenuous /= ingenious

590 CapeCoddah  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:35:38pm

re: #582 albusteve

Steve, he s offering an apology, don't be a child and slap at it. That is not who you want to be, my friend.

591 Mad Al-Jaffee  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:35:45pm

re: #565 The Sanity Inspector

I'm feeling all right.

592 Kruk  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:35:49pm

Another pet peeve: "I could care less".

593 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:36:13pm

re: #588 Walter L. Newton

And to elaborate on what you are saying, that is the precise reason I get disgusted when people take JOY in beating up on these idiots who attack Charles or even us.

I don't take any joy in beating up on these idiots, or fighting with them. It needs to be done, but it's sick to get pleasure out of it. It just like that grade school and high school sort of sick enjoyment.

No, I find whacking trolls fun, necessary but not something to enjoy. Enjoying it is sick.

No, I don't find whacking trolls fun,...

594 Gus  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:36:19pm

re: #592 Kruk

Another pet peeve: "I could care less".

"At the end of the day."

595 mich-again  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:36:19pm

re: #589 The Sanity Inspector

Ooh, ooh: ingenuous /= ingenious

Purify + T = Putrify.

596 The Sanity Inspector  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:36:29pm

re: #591 Mad Al-Jaffee

I'm feeling all right.


[Video]

A good one to bow out on. 'Night all.

597 The Left  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:36:33pm

re: #590 CapeCoddah

Steve, he s offering an apology, don't be a child and slap at it. That is not who you want to be, my friend.

Upding. Idioma is a she, IIRC.

598 Obdicut  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:36:37pm

re: #589 The Sanity Inspector

Then there's the complete clusterfuck of 'sympathy' and 'empathy'. I hear them used incorrectly as often as I hear them used correctly.

599 Varek Raith  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:36:49pm

idioma & albusteve, Happy Hippy Drum Circle, 15 minutes!
/

600 laZardo  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:37:22pm

re: #588 Walter L. Newton

No, I find whacking trolls fun, necessary but not something to enjoy. Enjoying it is sick.

I agree. Raw troll can cause some horrific food poisoning. Properly grilled though, they're quite tasty.

601 mich-again  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:37:31pm

My peeve is the misuse of extrapolate and interpolate. Geesh.

602 albusteve  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:37:35pm

re: #586 idioma

If I am mistaken about you, then I owe you an apology. Sorry I considered you a bigot.

thanks...I'm not

603 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:37:43pm

re: #584 Cato the Elder

An oldish Japanese cartoon. Kill Bill uses a premise similar to that used in Fist of the Northstar, the premise being that the average human body contains at least 350 gallons of blood, and said blood comes out in large volumes of high pressure jets when you so much as prick the skin with a needle.

604 Varek Raith  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:37:51pm

re: #601 mich-again

My peeve is the misuse of extrapolate and interpolate. Geesh.

affect and effect.

605 reine.de.tout  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:38:19pm

re: #580 Rightwingconspirator

O/T
Looking at NOLA weather radar- Wow. We are getting a lot less than that and we have burn area evacuations.

Burn area evacuations?

606 idioma  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:38:27pm

re: #592 Kruk

Another pet peeve: "I could care less".

Shouldn't it be "I couldn't care less"? That is to say that you could care less implies that you care?

607 The Left  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:38:28pm

re: #604 Varek Raith

affect and effect.

Imply and infer. *shudder*

608 laZardo  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:38:32pm

re: #603 Slumbering Behemoth

An oldish Japanese cartoon. Kill Bill uses a premise similar to that used in Fist of the Northstar, the premise being that the average human body contains at least 350 gallons of blood, and said blood comes out in large volumes of high pressure jets when you so much as prick the skin with a needle.

If you haven't seen it, then you are already dead.

609 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:38:33pm

re: #600 laZardo

I agree. Raw troll can cause some horrific food poisoning. Properly grilled though, they're quite tasty.

Sorry, I mistyped and corrected myself above. I don't find troll whacking fun, necessary but I get no enjoyment from it, and I think it is a sick personality that does. Ok?

610 Irenicum  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:39:09pm

I wonder why certain threads seem to bring out the anger quotient more than others? I mean, this was a tea party thread. (heh!) It seem that certain topics bring out the emotions more than others. Interesting.

We now return to our regularly scheduled grammar programming.

611 idioma  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:39:11pm

re: #599 Varek Raith

You just made me laugh at work!

612 Spare O'Lake  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:40:05pm

re: #543 brookly red

I have raised many a pit bull & I respectfully disagree.

Have you ever left your own child or grandchild alone in a room with your own well-trained pit bull terrier?

613 albusteve  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:40:09pm

my pet peeve...
they roll a joint and it's a toothpick

614 Escaped Hillbilly  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:40:23pm

re: #598 Obdicut

Then there's the complete clusterfuck of 'sympathy' and 'empathy'. I hear them used incorrectly as often as I hear them used correctly.


That is political correctness run amok. "Sympathy' got a bad rap starting about 20 years ago when the handicapped and "underpriveledged" started complaining that they didn't need anybody's "sympathy". "Empathy" became a stand in word of convenience despite (or maybe because) not being an actual synonym.

615 Varek Raith  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:40:26pm

re: #603 Slumbering Behemoth

An oldish Japanese cartoon. Kill Bill uses a premise similar to that used in Fist of the Northstar, the premise being that the average human body contains at least 350 gallons of blood, and said blood comes out in large volumes of high pressure jets when you so much as prick the skin with a needle.

Laws of Anime.

18 Law of Hemoglobin Capacity

The human body contains over 12 gallons of blood, sometimes more, under high pressure.

616 Irenicum  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:40:31pm

re: #613 albusteve

That's no spliff!

617 Mad Al-Jaffee  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:41:02pm

re: #583 laZardo

618 Cato the Elder  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:41:06pm

re: #594 Gus 802

"At the end of the day."

"It's all good." I hate that more than anything.

619 Irenicum  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:41:07pm

re: #613 albusteve

I'll show you a spliff!

620 Interesting Times  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:41:18pm

re: #604 Varek Raith

affect and effect.

What affects you has an effect on your life, so be to sure to effect changes that improve your overall affect :)

621 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:41:48pm

re: #618 Cato the Elder

"It's all good." I hate that more than anything.

That ironic, so do I!

622 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:41:52pm

re: #609 Walter L. Newton

Some folks enjoy giving a verbal smackdown to fools or abusive idiots. I don't think that makes them sick.

623 albusteve  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:41:54pm

re: #616 Irenicum

That's no spliff!

really...in Jamaica they toss away a roach that's 20 toothpicks big...wth?

624 Mad Al-Jaffee  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:42:31pm

re: #604 Varek Raith

affect and effect.

Loose and lose.

625 brainwizard73  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:42:53pm

Shoot, I was accussed of being a troll for just being a bit conservative...lots of accusations being flung.

626 Gus  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:43:09pm

re: #618 Cato the Elder

"It's all good." I hate that more than anything.

I used that the other night. Odd because I don't speak that way on a day to day basis.

"You know what I'm saying?"

That's another one.

627 Cato the Elder  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:43:11pm

re: #595 mich-again

Purify + T = Putrify.

In German "modern" (pr. mo-DERN) = up-to-date, while "modern" (pr. MO-dern) = to rot.

628 albusteve  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:43:31pm

the Verbage Police our out tonght...

629 CapeCoddah  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:43:31pm

re: #618 Cato the Elder

"It's all good." I hate that more than anything.

When someone is asked a question and the answer starts with.."I mean" and every three words, they repeat, "I mean".
Same with "Like"

Like, I'm not sure what governor, like, means. Like, can you, like, tell me?

630 Escaped Hillbilly  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:43:39pm

re: #618 Cato the Elder

"It's all good." I hate that more than anything.


Worse than my bad?

631 mich-again  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:43:46pm

re: #613 albusteve
Winner, winner P.R. pinner.

632 Varek Raith  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:44:41pm

fell and feel
So many times have I seen those messed up...

633 laZardo  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:44:59pm

re: #628 albusteve

the Verbage Police our out tonght...

Grammar Nazis!

/Godwin's law, check.

634 mich-again  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:45:01pm

re: #628 albusteve

the Verbage Police our out tonght...

You misspelled verbiage.

635 Gus  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:45:03pm

re: #627 Cato the Elder

In German "modern" (pr. mo-DERN) = up-to-date, while "modern" (pr. MO-dern) = to rot.

Mo-der-en

/

636 albusteve  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:45:16pm

re: #631 mich-again

Winner, winner P.R. pinner.

not from Michigan, obviously

637 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:45:43pm

re: #622 Slumbering Behemoth

Some folks enjoy giving a verbal smackdown to fools or abusive idiots. I don't think that makes them sick.

Well, I do. It pathological behavior. It's like making fun of the handicap.

638 albusteve  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:45:57pm

re: #634 mich-again

You misspelled verbiage.

shit...I'm dumed

639 brainwizard73  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:46:24pm

How about "I will borrow you my snowshovel"?

640 Gus  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:46:51pm

re: #637 Walter L. Newton

Well, I do. It pathological behavior. It's like making fun of the handicap.

What? You don't like horse racing?

/

641 Cato the Elder  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:47:11pm

I like words that are anagrams of each other yet mean opposite things.

united
untied

is one example.

642 Irenicum  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:47:20pm

I admit to being a bit of a grammar nazi. Irregardless still gives me the shakes. That word just ain't a word! Also, mispronounced words really get me going. My favorite has always been calliope, which during a parade was pronounced as kaleOpe instead of being pronounced as calEYEopE as it should be. The announcer said it over and over again throughout the parade. Aargh!

643 Varek Raith  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:47:42pm

re: #640 Gus 802

What? You don't like horse racing?

/

Or golf?
/

644 Irenicum  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:48:00pm

re: #641 Cato the Elder

Dyslexics of the world untie!

645 Gus  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:48:02pm

re: #643 Varek Raith

Or golf?
/

That was my other option.

646 Interesting Times  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:48:08pm

"Your" and "You're" is the one that bugs me. I didn't even realize it was such a common mistake until I started using the Internet and saw it practically everywhere - even on business websites!

647 Varek Raith  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:49:02pm

re: #646 publicityStunted

"Your" and "You're" is the one that bugs me. I didn't even realize it was such a common mistake until I started using the Internet and saw it practically everywhere - even on business websites!

Twitter. End of days...

648 Cato the Elder  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:49:14pm

re: #644 Irenicum

Dyslexics of the world untie!

I once knew a dyslexic agnostic insomniac.

He was up all night wondering if there really was a dog.

649 CapeCoddah  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:49:31pm

re: #642 Irenicum

Me and you... drive me nuts.
I just had to look at my kids and they would restate.. uh, you and I.

650 laZardo  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:49:37pm

re: #641 Cato the Elder

I like words that are anagrams of each other yet mean opposite things.

united
untied

is one example.

And yet shoemow we can raed wdros qiute wlel if olny the fsirt and lsat ltreets are in odrer.

651 generalsparky  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:50:04pm

re: #641 Cato the Elder

Like Santa and Satan?

652 albusteve  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:50:12pm

well, if we are not gonna discuss Islamofascism, I'm out like Sonny Liston

653 Varek Raith  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:51:12pm

re: #652 albusteve

well, if we are not gonna discuss Islamofascism, I'm out like Sonny Liston

Night, don't let the trees bark!
...wait, what?
:)

654 Cato the Elder  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:51:15pm

re: #649 CapeCoddah

Me and you... drive me nuts.
I just had to look at my kids and they would restate.. uh, you and I.

Even worse, though, is the hypercorrection, when people say "the boss has invited my wife and I to dinner."

At least "me and you" is colloquial.

655 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:51:18pm

"Wanted: Liberal Rape Victim"
by John Stacey McCain
via The American Spectator

[Link: spectator.org...]


Google all you want.
Somebody needs to see a doctor.

656 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:51:44pm

re: #605 reine.de.tout

I'm 25 miles or more from the burn areas, we have had 2 inches of rain on Monday, 1 inch on Tuesday, and 2 inches today. The ground is saturated.
That's pretty close to our annual rainfall, in 3 days.

[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

657 Cato the Elder  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:52:07pm

re: #651 generalsparky

Like Santa and Satan?

Exactly.

Although I'm not really sure they're opposites, now you mention it.

658 Gus  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:52:26pm

re: #655 negativ

"Wanted: Liberal Rape Victim"
by John Stacey McCain
via The American Spectator

[Link: spectator.org...]

Google all you want.
Somebody needs to see a doctor.

Robert Stacey McCain.

Yes, he's nuts.

659 brainwizard73  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:52:41pm

re: #646 publicityStunted

Totally snobby, but do you think less of a person who butchers grammar when they should attempt to be proper? (as opposed to blog posts that are sometimes subject to sticky keys and bad connections)?

660 BruceKelly  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:53:05pm

re: #628 albusteve

the Verbage Police our out tonght...

Just having fun. I never correct. I lower my opinion and let them suffer the inevitable consequences.

Oh, did you mean verbiage? :)

661 Irenicum  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:53:22pm

Here's a required reading for all of ya! The Evasion English Dictionary by Maggie Balistrari. Hysterically funny and linguistically incredibly insightful!

662 Varek Raith  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:53:40pm

I have this tendency to add too many commas.

663 idioma  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:53:41pm

re: #655 negativ

Shudder.

664 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:54:00pm

re: #615 Varek Raith

They need a Second Law of Differentiated Gravitation to describe this phenomenon.

665 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:54:59pm

re: #655 negativ

"Wanted: Liberal Rape Victim"
by John Stacey McCain
via The American Spectator

[Link: spectator.org...]

Google all you want.
Somebody needs to see a doctor.

Fuck Robert Stacy McCain and the swaybacked mule he rode in on.

666 BruceKelly  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:55:05pm

re: #638 albusteve

shit...I'm dumed

First laugh out loud line of the night for me.

667 Obdicut  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:55:14pm

re: #652 albusteve

There is a wonderful, beautiful column by Murray Kempton about the Liston-Ali fight. It's astonishing in the brilliance of his writing.

If anyone here has never read any Kempton, check him out. Good friend of
William F. Buckley, Jr., despite being quite opposite in politics.

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

668 Spare O'Lake  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:56:32pm

re: #662 Varek Raith

I have this tendency to add too many commas.

Be, careful, you, could, lapse, into, a, comma.
,,,

669 reine.de.tout  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:56:49pm

re: #642 Irenicum

I admit to being a bit of a grammar nazi. Irregardless still gives me the shakes. That word just ain't a word! Also, mispronounced words really get me going. My favorite has always been calliope, which during a parade was pronounced as kaleOpe instead of being pronounced as calEYEopE as it should be. The announcer said it over and over again throughout the parade. Aargh!

If you ever hear a national news report where the name of a Louisiana parish or city is mentioned, it's just about 100% guaranteed it will be mispronounced.

670 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:56:57pm

re: #637 Walter L. Newton

Pathological? I completely disagree.

671 The Left  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:59:23pm

re: #655 negativ

"Wanted: Liberal Rape Victim"
by John Stacey McCain
via The American Spectator

[Link: spectator.org...]

Google all you want.
Somebody needs to see a doctor.

Oh hell.
You know if they ever did get a female rape victim to be a public advocate like that, the wingnuts would make her life a living hell. Just imagine Michelle Malkin. She'll stake out her house and report on the kitchen countertops and bedroom furniture.

672 Irenicum  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 8:59:34pm

re: #662 Varek Raith

Really? I, never, really, noticed!

673 Irenicum  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 9:00:44pm

re: #668 Spare O'Lake

Groan!

674 Gus  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 9:01:14pm

re: #671 iceweasel

Oh hell.
You know if they ever did get a female rape victim to be a public advocate like that, the wingnuts would make her life a living hell. Just imagine Michelle Malkin. She'll stake out her house and report on the kitchen countertops and bedroom furniture.

We could put Dan Riehl on textiles and window treatments.

//

675 reine.de.tout  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 9:01:24pm

re: #656 Floral Giraffe

I'm 25 miles or more from the burn areas, we have had 2 inches of rain on Monday, 1 inch on Tuesday, and 2 inches today. The ground is saturated.
That's pretty close to our annual rainfall, in 3 days.

[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

Good grief!
We have an annual average of about 65 inches of rainfall.

676 Varek Raith  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 9:01:29pm

re: #673 Irenicum

Groan!

Groin!

...Dammit!

Groan!

677 Interesting Times  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 9:01:50pm

re: #659 brainwizard73

Totally snobby, but do you think less of a person who butchers grammar when they should attempt to be proper? (as opposed to blog posts that are sometimes subject to sticky keys and bad connections)?

I would expect a corporate website to adhere to a higher standard, yes. Not sure what the rest of your question is getting at (i.e. the "totally snobby" part).

678 Irenicum  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 9:02:11pm

re: #669 reine.de.tout

Since I love French Canadian beers, I'm used to hearing them mispronounced. It's almost la fin du monde!

679 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 9:02:43pm

re: #671 iceweasel

Oh hell.
You know if they ever did get a female rape victim to be a public advocate like that, the wingnuts would make her life a living hell. Just imagine Michelle Malkin. She'll stake out her house and report on the kitchen countertops and bedroom furniture.

If Malkin does that, she should be arrested for harassment and possibly incitement. I could make a good case for a crackdown of those sorts of stakeouts based on the murder of George Tiller.

680 idioma  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 9:03:02pm

re: #665 Dark_Falcon

Fuck Robert Stacy McCain and the swaybacked mule he rode in on.

I'm more concerned with those that follow him personally, but I like the canvas you paint.

681 reine.de.tout  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 9:03:34pm

OK, I'm about to go to sleep.
Just for the heck of it, since we're talking language:

Enjoy the story of Ladle Rat Rotten Hut.

682 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 9:03:40pm

re: #665 Dark_Falcon

Fuck Robert Stacy McCain and the swaybacked mule he rode in on.

I guess we're gonna have to draw straws for that, 'cuz I sure as hell ain't volunteering!

683 laZardo  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 9:03:43pm

re: #665 Dark_Falcon

Fuck Robert Stacy McCain and the swaybacked mule he rode in on.

Twice, with a rusty rake.

684 Lidane  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 9:04:07pm

re: #662 Varek Raith

I have this tendency to add too many commas.

And I have a tendency to overwrite my sentences, ramnbling on and on and on when a much shorter turn of phrase could probably work, but hey, that's just the way I am. ;)

685 freetoken  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 9:04:56pm

Wordpress - thousands of themes, and none of them do exactly what I want...

I guess I'm going into the PHP business. Yuck.

686 Varek Raith  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 9:05:11pm

I must say, I'm disappointed in these meds. They're totally harshing my cynicism...
:P

687 wee fury  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 9:05:39pm

This song is just six words long

688 Irenicum  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 9:06:14pm

Maudite, now I wish I had some la fin du monde! Heading off to some much needed sleep. Nite all!

689 The Left  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 9:07:44pm

re: #679 Dark_Falcon

If Malkin does that, she should be arrested for harassment and possibly incitement. I could make a good case for a crackdown of those sorts of stakeouts based on the murder of George Tiller.

Malkin did do that to a 12 year old boy who'd been in a severe accident who appeared as an advocate for S-CHIP. She staked out their house, reported back on the granite countertops, talked to their neighbours, and dug through all the family's finances and businesses (and school choices) all as an effort to 'prove' the family didn't really need (or deserve, was the subtext) S-CHIP.

His name was Graeme Frost. It was disgusting.
A liberal rape victim who was speaking out for WH (or DCCC) efforts on legislation for sex crimes, or the like? She absolutely would dig through that woman's sexual history to 'prove' she wasn't a 'real' rape victim. And even if Malkin didn't lead that charge, the flying monkeys of the wingnutsphere absolutely would.
You can bank on it.

690 BruceKelly  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 9:07:45pm

I'll never forget the first time I used the word "hyperbole." It was thirty years ago. Some memories never go away.

691 Bagua  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 9:08:36pm

re: #628 albusteve

the Verbage Police our out tonght...

I'm not sure that word means what you think it does.

692 Gus  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 9:09:40pm

re: #689 iceweasel

Malkin did do that to a 12 year old boy who'd been in a severe accident who appeared as an advocate for S-CHIP. She staked out their house, reported back on the granite countertops, talked to their neighbours, and dug through all the family's finances and businesses (and school choices) all as an effort to 'prove' the family didn't really need (or deserve, was the subtext) S-CHIP.

His name was Graeme Frost. It was disgusting.
A liberal rape victim who was speaking out for WH (or DCCC) efforts on legislation for sex crimes, or the like? She absolutely would dig through that woman's sexual history to 'prove' she wasn't a 'real' rape victim. And even if Malkin didn't lead that charge, the flying monkeys of the wingnutsphere absolutely would.
You can bank on it.

Which can be found right here.

693 Interesting Times  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 9:10:11pm

One typo that's as dangerous as it is easy to make is writing "not" when you actually meant "now". Just think of the nightmare-scenario misunderstandings...

694 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 9:10:27pm

re: #690 BruceKelly

Lemme guess, it came out sounding something like "hyper-bowl"?

695 brainwizard73  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 9:12:15pm

re: #677 publicityStunted

"My bad"...I meant to preface my remark with the snobby comment as a tacit admission that it might sound snobby.

No offense intended. Sorry.

696 palomino  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 9:12:16pm

re: #476 Varek Raith

Why are you baiting albusteve?

they mistakenly think he's rational

697 BruceKelly  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 9:12:19pm

re: #694 Slumbering Behemoth

Lemme guess, it came out sounding something like "hyper-bowl"?

Yep. Pretty damn embarrassing.

698 Kruk  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 9:12:29pm

re: #606 idioma

Shouldn't it be "I couldn't care less"? That is to say that you could care less implies that you care?

Heh. That's exacly what I mean. People say "I could care less" when they should be saying "I couldn't care less."

699 laZardo  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 9:12:30pm

re: #694 Slumbering Behemoth

Lemme guess, it came out sounding something like "hyper-bowl"?

You hear of Hyperbowl 2012? Biggest sporting event in the galaxy, man! Nibiru Raiders versus Planet X-Treme! The Mayans took all the first-class seats though...

700 Escaped Hillbilly  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 9:12:43pm

Actually found on this page:

“Please volunteer to help in the race for my father’s seat”


Its too easy.

701 Varek Raith  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 9:12:51pm

re: #693 publicityStunted

One typo that's as dangerous as it is easy to make is writing "not" when you actually meant "now". Just think of the nightmare-scenario misunderstandings...

I think I know now what you mean.
/;)

702 Soap_Man  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 9:13:19pm

When I read this post, this is how I felt.

(I've been looking for an excuse to post that video.)

703 Varek Raith  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 9:14:32pm

I'm out for the night!
My posts are starting to not make sense...:)

704 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 9:15:12pm

re: #689 iceweasel

Malkin did do that to a 12 year old boy who'd been in a severe accident who appeared as an advocate for S-CHIP. She staked out their house, reported back on the granite countertops, talked to their neighbours, and dug through all the family's finances and businesses (and school choices) all as an effort to 'prove' the family didn't really need (or deserve, was the subtext) S-CHIP.

His name was Graeme Frost. It was disgusting.
A liberal rape victim who was speaking out for WH (or DCCC) efforts on legislation for sex crimes, or the like? She absolutely would dig through that woman's sexual history to 'prove' she wasn't a 'real' rape victim. And even if Malkin didn't lead that charge, the flying monkeys of the wingnutsphere absolutely would.
You can bank on it.

My fear is that they would not stop at harassment. Many of the nuts who show up with Malkin for things like that have a serious butthurt about "modern women" (if you will allow me the phrase). I'm worried that some wingnut or Dominionist might decide to "teach her to keep her place". If all Malkin was doing was ranting on the air, then that is protected speech but when you stake out someone's property and report where it is, a case could be made that you are inciting crazies to do something bad.

705 Escaped Hillbilly  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 9:15:19pm

oops
re: #700 Escaped Hillbilly

Actually found on this page:

Its too easy.

re: #692 Gus 802

Which can be found right here.

706 Daniel Ballard  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 9:15:35pm

re: #605 reine.de.tout

Sorry missed your reply=
The mountains north of LA are the burn areas, where 3 or 4 storms in a row has caused evacuations from hillside homes.

707 RadicalModerate  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 9:16:24pm

Looks like Mr. Dyer has a page over on ResistNet.
Creepy face chamo-wearing photo bonus!

Link is cached from the Google - I'm not giving that site any hits.

Charles Dyer's Page

708 BruceKelly  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 9:17:04pm

'night all.

709 Escaped Hillbilly  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 9:17:06pm

Obviously from my last post, itis waaay past my bedtime. Night all.

710 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 9:17:43pm

re: #697 BruceKelly

When I read that word in print, that's how it sounded in my head. Lucky for me I heard it spoken aloud before I tried to speak it myself.

Same with "biopic". I always read it as "by-opic" until I heard it aloud.

When I was still learning to read (NO! It was NOT just last week!) I read "woman" and though it was pronounce "Woah-Man". Or "Woe-Man, take your pick.

711 Daniel Ballard  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 9:17:53pm

re: #656 Floral Giraffe

Weather discussion says today's rain was a small precursor for tomorrows front coming through, & more "cyclonic".
[Link: www.wrh.noaa.gov...]

712 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 9:18:34pm

LGF is getting a good amount of traffic for this post. Nothing viral yet but looks like a possible Farklanche in the works.

713 keloyd  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 9:18:41pm

re: #433 andres
You dinged me down, then disagreed, then made the same point I did, if I understand you.

My point was that Wright was not cussing. There is a non-profane, non-politically charged use for "damn", "bitch", and "negro", as I stated above.

The Spanish word "negro," when speaking Spanish, is not remotely politically incorrect as I understand from my high school understanding of the language. It is no more politically edgy than 'azul' or 'verde' (blue and green for those of you who don't live in Texas). I brought this up to defend that minister Wright's use fo the word 'damn' in a way that was not a cuss word, but Fox News delights in bleeping it out. I went on to point out how White churches say the same thing with different words and no one is offended.

"Damn" is not a profanity if used in church in its literal sense. Dog breeders also aren't cussing when they discuss their 'bitches'.

/too far past my bedtime to pick a fight

714 ryannon  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 9:19:43pm

re: #618 Cato the Elder

"It's all good." I hate that more than anything.

Chill out, dude. Give it a rest.

/

715 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 9:19:47pm

re: #711 Rightwingconspirator

I had to go out, but cancelled the afternoon appointments.
Around 3, I had 0.5 inches of rain in 5 minutes.
I only WISH my shower delivered that volume of water!
Hope you are safe!

716 Obdicut  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 9:19:59pm

re: #707 RadicalModerate

God damn, but following those militia pages is trippy. What a weird world.

717 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 9:21:10pm

re: #712 Killgore Trout

In the interests of learning, how do you see that?
*waves*
Hi Killgore!

718 freetoken  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 9:21:20pm

re: #711 Rightwingconspirator

Yeah, rained all afternoon here. No where as intense as yesterday, but very consistent. Rain totals are adding up... the desert should be very colorful in a couple of months.

719 Surabaya Stew  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 9:21:57pm

re: #689 iceweasel

Malkin did do that to a 12 year old boy who'd been in a severe accident who appeared as an advocate for S-CHIP. She staked out their house, reported back on the granite countertops, talked to their neighbours, and dug through all the family's finances and businesses (and school choices) all as an effort to 'prove' the family didn't really need (or deserve, was the subtext) S-CHIP.

Malkin sure got lots of wingnut mileage out of those "granite" kitchen counters. Trouble was, they were actually made of concrete! Facts can be so inconvenient if they don't fit ones pre-conceived narrative....

720 Soap_Man  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 9:22:12pm

re: #718 freetoken

Yeah, rained all afternoon here. No where as intense as yesterday, but very consistent. Rain totals are adding up... the desert should be very colorful in a couple of months.

You're lucky. We have had freezing rain all night. Not fun to drive in.

721 Daniel Ballard  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 9:22:19pm

re: #715 Floral Giraffe

Thanks
Dragon_Lady and I are fine, the pool is to the brim. Time to drain some back out. Got friends and family uphill though.

722 The Left  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 9:23:03pm

re: #704 Dark_Falcon

My fear is that they would not stop at harassment. Many of the nuts who show up with Malkin for things like that have a serious butthurt about "modern women" (if you will allow me the phrase). I'm worried that some wingnut or Dominionist might decide to "teach her to keep her place". If all Malkin was doing was ranting on the air, then that is protected speech but when you stake out someone's property and report where it is, a case could be made that you are inciting crazies to do something bad.

You're right to have that fear. I can't remember if the Frosts themselves received death threats, but Malkin has a long history of posting individuals' addresses, emails, and phone numbers, and encouraging her nuts to harass those people.
People have received death threats before because of Malkin. And yeah, I can get the links and so on for that.
With the current political climate, most especially the insanity on the wingnut right, any woman who wanted to be an advocate and come out as a rape victim in anything associated with the WH or the DCCC or 'teh Obama agenda' would have to be concerned about her physical safety.
And yes, the freaks at hotair do hate 'modern women'. Just like they hate teh ghey.
These are some of the many reasons why I'm glad we have the running feature on HotAir comments. Malkin needs to be called out and held responsible-- as do her other co-bloggers. Someone is going to get killed.

723 Daniel Ballard  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 9:23:05pm

re: #718 freetoken

Poppie reserve run with the Canon. Yes!

724 ryannon  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 9:24:22pm

re: #654 Cato the Elder

Even worse, though, is the hypercorrection, when people say "the boss has invited my wife and I to dinner."

At least "me and you" is colloquial.

"My wife and me"? Me and my wife? "I and me wife"?

I prefer the hypercorrect version.

725 Bagua  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 9:25:11pm

So what are we chatting about on this glorious day of Hope and Change?

726 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 9:26:04pm

re: #723 Rightwingconspirator

Anza Borrego desert in March!

727 keloyd  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 9:26:25pm

we were chatting about yo mama
:P

728 laZardo  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 9:26:34pm

re: #725 Bagua

So what are we chatting about on this glorious day of Hope and Change?

Racists saying/doing the Darndest things.

729 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 9:26:53pm

re: #725 Bagua

We're chatting about a new study that shows Reese Witherspoon causes gout.

730 idioma  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 9:26:54pm

re: #727 keloyd

Snap!

731 Daniel Ballard  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 9:27:38pm

re: #724 ryannon

Heh. The grammar police are the one kind I will floor it and run from. :)

732 Gus  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 9:27:45pm

re: #707 RadicalModerate

Looks like Mr. Dyer has a page over on ResistNet.
Creepy face chamo-wearing photo bonus!

Link is cached from the Google - I'm not giving that site any hits.

Charles Dyer's Page

Gets even creepier in the Patriotmovement Photobucket gallery with images that you can see here, here, and here.

733 Daniel Ballard  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 9:28:58pm

re: #726 Floral Giraffe

Zactly. I will be there. Last yeas it sucked. The road approaching had better poppies than the reserve. It was a great year for foxtails though. Yuck.

734 Bagua  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 9:29:24pm

re: #729 Slumbering Behemoth

We're chatting about a new study that shows Reese Witherspoon causes gout.

I'm willing to take that risk. She looks intelligent.

735 Daniel Ballard  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 9:29:42pm

re: #733 Rightwingconspirator

Too tired to type well. Off to bed.

In Bed

736 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 9:30:01pm

re: #733 Rightwingconspirator

Don't forget your needle nose pliers!
That cholla does jump!

737 Spare O'Lake  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 9:30:41pm

Joan was quizzical, studied pataphysical science in the home,

738 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 9:31:25pm

re: #717 Floral Giraffe

In the interests of learning, how do you see that?
*waves*
Hi Killgore!

The referrers page is available on the left sidebar under "tools and info"

739 Soap_Man  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 9:32:45pm

re: #728 laZardo

Racists saying/doing the Darndest things.

I've never really seen anything like that. I knew it was out there but...

Can someone enlighten me.. What the hell is a "Fundie Index"?

740 Cato the Elder  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 9:32:55pm

re: #724 ryannon

"My wife and me"? Me and my wife? "I and me wife"?

I prefer the hypercorrect version.

"Hypercorrect" actually means incorrect. It's when you say something wrong because you're bending over backwards to avoid another mistake that you think you might be committing if you said the thing correctly. The noun is "hypercorrection".

It is absolutely incorrect to say "dad called and wants you and I to come over for breakfast."

It's "you and me". If it was just me he wanted, I wouldn't say "he wants I to come to breakfast."

"The boss has invited my wife and I to dinner" is worse than saying "hey, dude, let's you and me go bowling tonight." By a long chalk.

Got it?

741 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 9:34:27pm

re: #738 Killgore Trout

Thank you. I have looked at that, but am not sure how to read it. Can the # of referrers be sorted? Or do you just have to read the whole page?

742 laZardo  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 9:35:01pm

re: #739 Soap_Man

I've never really seen anything like that. I knew it was out there but...

Can someone enlighten me.. What the hell is a "Fundie Index"?

That's their 'rating system' on that site. Sorta like the "thumbs up/thumbs down" on PunditKitchen, FailBlog, etc.

743 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 9:35:43pm

Linked in the spin-offs, a website of photos from Tea Party protests that are less then flattering.

Look At This Fucking Teabagger.

744 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 9:36:04pm

re: #740 Cato the Elder

Happy New Year, Cato.
I missed you, but hope you have had a terrific start to your 2010!

745 keloyd  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 9:36:19pm

re: #732 Gus 802

I don't want to sound like a hater, but could someone with firearms expertise look at the gun that patriot is pointing at the camera? It looks so small and dainty, like a 22. Or a pellet gun. Or maybe it's just me. My family has been in Texas since the War Between The States ended, not in our favor, and we had to hurry up and be somewhere else.

Bonus points - my parents have retired to a place in New Mexico, where per capita gun ownership is more than 1 gun per person, for every man, woman, and child, God bless em.

...still laughing at the dainty doily fufu gun...

746 Bagua  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 9:36:30pm

Heh, msnbc says Obama was 'chastened' by the Democratic Senate loss. Interesting choice of words for the new Boston Massacre.


WASHINGTON - Chastened by the Democratic Senate loss in the state of Massachusetts, President Barack Obama and congressional allies signaled Wednesday they will try to scale back his sweeping health care overhaul in an effort to at least keep parts of it alive.

I like this tidbit...

The 60-vote Senate Democratic majority is needed...

How sad to be in need. Better not to focus on what one cannot have. Time to pay attention to things we all agree need attention instead of trying to railroad half the nation.

Obama Chastened by the Democratic Senate Loss

747 Soap_Man  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 9:37:18pm

re: #742 laZardo

That's their 'rating system' on that site. Sorta like the "thumbs up/thumbs down" on PunditKitchen, FailBlog, etc.

So, the higher the number the more likely they are to need professional therapy?

Got it. Thanks.

748 Gus  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 9:37:27pm

re: #745 keloyd

I don't want to sound like a hater, but could someone with firearms expertise look at the gun that patriot is pointing at the camera? It looks so small and dainty, like a 22. Or a pellet gun. Or maybe it's just me. My family has been in Texas since the War Between The States ended, not in our favor, and we had to hurry up and be somewhere else.

Bonus points - my parents have retired to a place in New Mexico, where per capita gun ownership is more than 1 gun per person, for every man, woman, and child, God bless em.

...still laughing at the dainty doily fufu gun...

Oh, I didn't look at the caliber. Just the overall feel of the images.

749 Spare O'Lake  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 9:37:42pm

re: #737 Spare O'Lake

Joan was quizzical, studied pataphysical science in the home,

Late nights all alone with a test tube, Jo-o-o-oan.

750 keloyd  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 9:39:40pm

The overall feel of those pics is disconcerting, true, but that specific firearm contradicts the macho thing he was going for, imho.

751 laZardo  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 9:41:08pm

re: #747 Soap_Man

So, the higher the number the more likely they are to need professional therapy?

Got it. Thanks.

It can also be considered a measurement of how thick the padding should be on their cells. :D

752 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 9:41:28pm

re: #743 Slumbering Behemoth

Linked in the spin-offs, a website of photos from Tea Party protests that are less then flattering.

Look At This Fucking Teabagger.

I'll upding you, but not that site. It has a nasty leftist slant and it attacks signs that are well within bounds. Not a good place, since the lefty nasty is strong there.

753 laZardo  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 9:41:53pm

re: #743 Slumbering Behemoth

Linked in the spin-offs, a website of photos from Tea Party protests that are less then flattering.

Look At This Fucking Teabagger.

I love that "Angry Mob" shirt. Eerily appropriate AND funny.

754 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 9:41:55pm

re: #750 keloyd

That firearm will kill a person just as well as a larger one, and I think that is point he was going for.

755 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 9:42:28pm

re: #741 Floral Giraffe

It's sorted by time so the most recent referrals are listed first. You have to refresh to see the more recent clicks. The number in the middle is how many clicks come from each link.

756 Spare O'Lake  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 9:43:25pm

re: #749 Spare O'Lake

Late nights all alone with a test tube, Jo-o-o-oan.

Maxwell Edison majoring in medicine calls her on the phone,
"Can I take you out to the pictures, Jo-o-o-oan?"

757 LHC996Rider  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 9:44:14pm

If the warrant was written to look for evidence of rape, the grenade launcher would not be admissible for the rape charge... unless he..well... you know.

It may be considered fruits of the search and used for other charges. Only time will tell.

Im just sayin...

758 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 9:44:32pm

re: #743 Slumbering Behemoth

Linked in the spin-offs, a website of photos from Tea Party protests that are less then flattering.

Look At This Fucking Teabagger.

Gave it a plus. damn funny site.

759 Gus  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 9:46:25pm

This might be good for a further backgrounder on the patriot/militia cult movements. Documentary at VBS TV. In this first part of a series of 10 you'll see Charles Dyer.

2nd Revolutionary War - Episode 1 of 10
Jul 2, 2009

The Department of Homeland Security classifies them as potential “domestic terrorists”; they prefer to be called patriots. As the economic crisis deepens, a growing movement of Americans is rejecting the two-party system and the mainstream media. They believe a violent revolution is imminent, and they’re getting ready for it now.

VBS correspondent Ryan Duffy crosses the country to meet the people on the front lines of the struggle. They include Alex Jones, a radio talk show host in Austin, Texas who is waking people up to the dangers of the corporate globalists — and has seen traffic on his websites increase dramatically in recent months. We also meet Sgt. Charles Dyer, a U.S. Marine stationed at Camp Pendleton who has taken an oath to disobey unconstitutional orders and take up arms against the government if it becomes tyrannical — and is training a citizen militia to do the same. Traveling from tea parties in Texas to “Oath Keeper” rallies in Massachusetts, VBS investigates whether the country is actually on the verge of the 2nd Revolutionary War.

760 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 9:46:26pm

re: #752 Dark_Falcon

I just happened upon it, finding this pic linked elsewhere, attributed to LATFTB.

761 laZardo  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 9:46:32pm

re: #752 Dark_Falcon

I suspect that guy on the bicycle holding the "Brownest thing on the block" cardboard sign is trolling. Or "protest-bombing".

/not familiar with protest terminology

762 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 9:46:52pm

re: #746 Bagua

Heh, msnbc says Obama was 'chastened' by the Democratic Senate loss. Interesting choice of words for the new Boston Massacre.

How sad to be in need. Better not to focus on what one cannot have. Time to pay attention to things we all agree need attention instead of trying to railroad half the nation.

Obama Chastened by the Democratic Senate Loss

I agree with you. But it looks like Obama is being encouraged to actually hype his banking tax and use it as class warfare. To borrow from Fenway_Nation, Not Another Stupid Leftist Idea. The good news is that if Obama tries that, I predict that Republicans will effectively counter it. Opposing taxes is an issue that unites all Republicans, from RINOs to wingnuts. It will be very easy to hammer Obama for the idea of raising taxes in a recession. So if he wants to try using taxes for class warfare, I say "Bring It On!"

763 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 9:47:40pm

re: #746 Bagua

I caught some of MSNBC's cyclonic spinning this afternoon between shifts. Under most cicumstances, I pretty much find that station and their so-called 'personalities' grating, but the sheer spinning and random-excuse generator that were the guests rotating through on the Chrissy Show was hilarious in its own little way.

764 The Left  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 9:47:47pm

re: #752 Dark_Falcon

I'll upding you, but not that site. It has a nasty leftist slant and it attacks signs that are well within bounds. Not a good place, since the lefty nasty is strong there.

I'm not seeing the lefty nasty there. Looks like the photos are presented without comment, for the most part, except some purely innocuous info about where they were taken? Maybe I haven't looked at enough of it yet.
Obviously it's from someone who hates the teabaggers, but so what?

765 Cato the Elder  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 9:49:54pm

Despite (or because) of his being an alleged rapist, when I look at the various photos of this guy, I can't help feeling that for all the rabid rhetoric he's really more of a poser than anything else.

Or, to piss him off more in case he ever reads this, he's a poseur. That's right, tough guy, you earned a French epithet.

Not that he and his kind pose no threat. I'm just sayin', this particular witless twerp reminds me of some kid posing as Luke Skywalker in front of the mirror in his mom's bathroom.

Just the type to turn rapist, in fact. What sane woman would have consensual sex with such a loser?

766 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 9:49:54pm

re: #760 Slumbering Behemoth

I just happened upon it, finding this pic linked elsewhere, attributed to LATFTB.

Not all little old ladies are nice. That one sure isn't. And her little "Oh No, Mexicans!" act will only cost the GOP votes. Tasteless, dishonest, and stupid: another Wingnut Trifecta.

767 The Left  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 9:49:55pm

re: #761 laZardo

I suspect that guy on the bicycle holding the "Brownest thing on the block" cardboard sign is trolling. Or "protest-bombing".

/not familiar with protest terminology

Yeah, like this guy-- my favourite protest-protest pic so far. (or whatever we should call it)

768 keloyd  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 9:49:56pm

Slumbering Behemoth, #754
If that's a 22 and want to kill me, you need to be reeeallly close, or aim for the eye socket, or hope I didnt drink enough milk and don't have a too thick skull, or shoot me a whole lot of times while i am asleep.

Otherwise, I will be laughing at you and questioning your manhood for the several minutes it take for me to die slowly.

OH OH OH I just remembered - there was a good gangster movie where some fool brought a 22 to kill Vin Diesel's character - just made him mad - Find Me Guilty, iirc. The gunman was his drug addict cousin, and the choice of 22 indicated he didn't REALLY want to kill him.

769 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 9:50:29pm

re: #764 iceweasel

I'm not seeing the lefty nasty there. Looks like the photos are presented without comment, for the most part, except some purely innocuous info about where they were taken? Maybe I haven't looked at enough of it yet.
Obviously it's from someone who hates the teabaggers, but so what?

Good point.

770 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 9:50:42pm

re: #762 Dark_Falcon

Automatic upding for borrowing from me!

771 Soap_Man  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 9:51:03pm

re: #764 iceweasel

I'm not seeing the lefty nasty there. Looks like the photos are presented without comment, for the most part, except some purely innocuous info about where they were taken? Maybe I haven't looked at enough of it yet.
Obviously it's from someone who hates the teabaggers, but so what?

re: #752 Dark_Falcon

I'll upding you, but not that site. It has a nasty leftist slant and it attacks signs that are well within bounds. Not a good place, since the lefty nasty is strong there.

Yeah, there's many signs that I might consider silly, but aren't really out of line.

My favorite is "I don't want to press 'one' for English." My God, how fucking inconvenient.

772 Gus  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 9:51:43pm

re: #759 Gus 802

Correction. That's just one part. The rest are unrelated.

773 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 9:52:42pm

re: #767 iceweasel

How is Jimmah's arm/shoulder healing?
And your Visa, is it moving along?
*waves*
Hi Iceweasel!

774 The Left  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 9:53:32pm

re: #769 Dark_Falcon

Good point.

Well, there might be lefty nasty there-- I haven't looked at the whole site yet by any means. It reminds me of this one in a way:

Obama is Literally Hitler!

h/t Jimmah, a few months ago. :-)

775 Soap_Man  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 9:53:51pm

re: #767 iceweasel

Yeah, like this guy-- my favourite protest-protest pic so far. (or whatever we should call it)

He should bring back AD. Might boost his approvals.

776 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 9:55:38pm

re: #775 Soap_Man

He should bring back AD. Might boost his approvals.

It was a good show. I'm just glad that Jason Bateman was able to use it launch his movie career. He's a good actor and one of few child actors to successfully transition.

777 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 9:56:37pm

re: #768 keloyd

Don't take lessons on ballistics from movies, and definitely don't bet your life on them.

778 The Left  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 9:57:03pm

re: #773 Floral Giraffe

How is Jimmah's arm/shoulder healing?
And your Visa, is it moving along?
*waves*
Hi Iceweasel!

hey FG! Thanks for asking!
Jimmah's arm is healing but he's going to need massive physio for the torn rotator cuff. :(
Visa is moving (we're still assembling what we need. Like notarised affadavits from friends and family attesting to our relationship, etc. It's a lot of stuff.)
We're currently working on a new Jimmah-Ice production, "How Wingnuts See the World". That's what we're doing right now in between me intermittently posting here. :)

How are you?

779 BruceKelly  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 9:57:42pm

re: #754 Slumbering Behemoth

That firearm will kill a person just as well as a larger one, and I think that is point he was going for.

Small (.22) caliber weapons don't make much noise if you use a subsonic round.

780 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 9:59:50pm

re: #779 BruceKelly

Small (.22) caliber weapons don't make much noise if you use a subsonic round.

Correct. Subsonic ammo is good for quiet killing. The best subsonic round is the .45 ACP, though that does require a silencer.

781 Spare O'Lake  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 10:01:04pm

re: #756 Spare O'Lake

Maxwell Edison majoring in medicine calls her on the phone,
"Can I take you out to the pictures, Jo-o-o-oan?"

But as she's getting ready to go a knock comes at the door...
Bang bang, Maxwell's silver hammer came down upon her head,
Clang clang, Maxwell's silver hammer made sure that she was dead.

782 Cato the Elder  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 10:02:51pm

re: #768 keloyd

Slumbering Behemoth, #754
If that's a 22 and want to kill me, you need to be reeeallly close, or aim for the eye socket, or hope I didnt drink enough milk and don't have a too thick skull, or shoot me a whole lot of times while i am asleep.

Otherwise, I will be laughing at you and questioning your manhood for the several minutes it take for me to die slowly.

OH OH OH I just remembered - there was a good gangster movie where some fool brought a 22 to kill Vin Diesel's character - just made him mad - Find Me Guilty, iirc. The gunman was his drug addict cousin, and the choice of 22 indicated he didn't REALLY want to kill him.

OK, in general you're right - except that the Beretta .22 pocket pistol "Bobcat" with hollow points has long been a favorite of highly skilled assassins from Mossad and elsewhere. I have the Taurus knockoff. Step up behind the target, one shot to the head, and those fragments will rattle around for five seconds like peas in a garbage can before they come to rest. Guaranteed Hamas refried brains. No chance of survival.

The .22 should not just be laughed at. That idiot in "Into the Wild" killed a moose with one. He just didn't know how to keep the meat, so he starved to death.

783 Soap_Man  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 10:04:17pm

It seems like there is a lot of gun knowledge on LGF. I've never owned one. In fact I've never fired one either. I feel a little left out. :)

784 The Left  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 10:04:20pm

re: #780 Dark_Falcon

Correct. Subsonic ammo is good for quiet killing. The best subsonic round is the .45 ACP, though that does require a silencer.

re: #781 Spare O'Lake

But as she's getting ready to go a knock comes at the door...
Bang bang, Maxwell's silver hammer came down upon her head,
Clang clang, Maxwell's silver hammer made sure that she was dead.

Yikes, this is feeling a little weird in here tonight...
(just teasing you both)

785 BruceKelly  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 10:04:33pm

re: #780 Dark_Falcon

Correct. Subsonic ammo is good for quiet killing. The best subsonic round is the .45 ACP, though that does require a silencer.

But silencers are illegal, and you can get a .22 and subsonic ammo at any good, country Sears.

786 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 10:04:41pm

re: #778 iceweasel

Soggy. We don't do rain well, here in the desert of Lala Land!
Glad to hear Jimmah's healing. You're in charge of making SURE he does all the physiotherapy he needs to do to FIX the rotator cuff injury.
Yes, Jimmah, ALL of it!
Hang in there, Ice, it'll get done.

787 The Left  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 10:07:39pm

re: #786 Floral Giraffe

Thanks FG! Yes, I'm being a bit of a nag about the exercises. And I warned him in advance that I would be. I think he secretly likes it though.

He just said to tell you hello and thank you very much for thinking of us. *waves at FG* (Jimmah by proxy there, me too)
Hope you hold up in the rain!

788 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 10:08:36pm

G'nite Lizards. Catch y'all later. Try and sleep well.

789 Bagua  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 10:08:49pm

Change is in the air already.


Obama to name deficit panel: AP President Barack Obama is poised to name a special commission to come up with a plan to curb the spiraling deficit, top Democrats said Tuesday evening.

The bipartisan 18-member panel would be asked to report a deficit reduction plan after the November elections...

Yep, be a little bipartisan and stop the wild spending Mr Obama.

790 keloyd  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 10:08:58pm

Exactly - Slumbering B and BruceKelly, that gun is unsuitable in every way to be used in a menacing photograph. It's like those pics of teenagers modifying a Geo Metro, then posing in front of it with all its ground effects and loud exhaust. It will get you where you need to go, but psychologically, it doesn't work. The 22 has its place - good for killin and good for getting rid of various small rodents on the farm. Good for teaching kids gun safety. I'm guessing it was that kid's 12th birthday present, and it's his only gun, and so when he tries to look tough, that is all he could manage.

..and the noise is half the point. At the range (the only place I have ever fired a weapon) the other people there respect you more. The guy running the range will be in a good mood as he sells you much more pricey ammo. If I ever had to deal with some intruder in my home, I would prefer to scare him away rather than kill him, so I want the biggest sound I can get.

791 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 10:08:58pm

re: #785 BruceKelly

But silencers are illegal, and you can get a .22 and subsonic ammo at any good, country Sears.

They're illegal in my state, sad to sad. In some states they're allowed, though they must be registered. In Washington state, there's a firm that makes modernized De Lisle silent carbines. It's a .45 fired from a modified Lee-Enfield bolt-action. Very quiet, and undetectable more than 20 yards away. It was developed and used first during WWII.

792 Cato the Elder  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 10:09:14pm

Ooh, subsonic ammo. Also known as "Zimmerpatronen" - room cartridges - in German. In the .22 version it's basically a round with no charge - just the primer. You can literally shoot them at a target in the basement and the wife upstairs will think you're hammering nails. But deadly at close range.

I used to hunt pigeons and rats in the city with them. No one ever noticed a thing.

793 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 10:09:22pm

re: #785 BruceKelly

Improvise- got a two liter plastic bottle of soda? Fill it maybe a tenth of the way up w/water [making sure none goes down the barrel] and Viola! Improv silencer good for maybe 3 or 4 rounds before the bottom's completely gone.

/so long as the weapon isn't a revolver.....

794 RadicalModerate  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 10:10:55pm

Just got this tidbit from one of my RSS feeds:

Sarah Palin to campaign for Bachmann in her run for 3rd term

I don't know if any building in the state of Minnesota will be able to contain the nuttery.

795 Cato the Elder  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 10:11:16pm

re: #790 keloyd

Can you tell me which picture you're referring to? I must have missed the link.

796 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 10:11:25pm

re: #793 Fenway_Nation

Improvise- got a two liter plastic bottle of soda? Fill it maybe a tenth of the way up w/water [making sure none goes down the barrel] and Viola! Improv silencer good for maybe 3 or 4 rounds before the bottom's completely gone.

/so long as the weapon isn't a revolver...

Do be advised though that that is highly illegal. The penalty for manufacturing an unregistered silencer is 5-10 years in federal prison, usually with no parole.

797 BruceKelly  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 10:11:40pm

re: #784 iceweasel

You're right. I'm kinda creepin' my own-self out.

798 Dancing along the light of day  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 10:11:45pm

re: #787 iceweasel

He's smart enough to know, that unless he makes an effort NOW to get back to the pre-injury strength, he'll never get there!
You just nag right along, Mrs. Ice! Hee Hee. I do hope this makes you buy some winter shoes with crampons, or whatever those ice thingys are called.

799 KingKenrod  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 10:13:01pm

re: #794 RadicalModerate

Just got this tidbit from one of my RSS feeds:

Sarah Palin to campaign for Bachmann in her run for 3rd term

I don't know if any building in the state of Minnesota will be able to contain the nuttery.

John McCain wants some of that tea party flavor as well.

800 laZardo  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 10:14:37pm

re: #794 RadicalModerate

Politics in Minnesota, there's your problem.

/don't care what party you're in, that's what I call a nut-state.

801 Soap_Man  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 10:15:47pm

Well, I'm out of my depth here. Not to mention that it is bedtime.

But this reminds me of an episode of the West Wing. The White House Communications Director, Toby, goes skeet shooting with the Israeli Defense Minister. The Israeli asks Toby if he has ever gone shooting before. Toby, acting all cocky, brags that he was born and raised in Brooklyn. On the first shot, the kickback knocks him on his ass.

I always imagined that would be how it would play out for me in that situation, just substitute Brooklyn for Chicago.

Goodnight everyone.

802 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 10:15:47pm

re: #799 KingKenrod

John McCain wants some of that tea party flavor as well.

He feels he needs it. Palin campaigning for him probably will deflate his primary challenger, since the TP crowd worships her. It's good politics, but i don't like it.

803 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 10:15:56pm

re: #796 Dark_Falcon


Yeah....forgot the requisite 'The Feds Frown on this sort of thing....' disclaimer.

/The Feds usually frown on this sort of thing....

804 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 10:16:02pm

re: #655 negativ

"Wanted: Liberal Rape Victim"
by John Stacey McCain
via The American Spectator

[Link: spectator.org...]


Google all you want.
Somebody needs to see a doctor.

Obviously, this trend of big government shamelessly glorifying the victims of crime must end. I guess.

805 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 10:17:40pm

re: #801 Soap_Man

Fare thee well, homo spaien of the Irish Spring persuasion!

806 The Left  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 10:18:34pm

re: #797 BruceKelly

You're right. I'm kinda creepin' my own-self out.

No criticism implied whatsoever! It's kind of cute to watch the boys gather to talk about their guns. I love geekery in all its forms, even though I'm not equipped to be a geek about guns.

807 Gus  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 10:18:50pm

re: #804 SanFranciscoZionist

Obviously, this trend of big government shamelessly glorifying the victims of crime must end. I guess.

Just noticed that that was from the campaign. Dated 9-29-08. Same rules still apply: RSM is a nut-burger.

808 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 10:19:00pm

re: #803 Fenway_Nation

Yeah...forgot the requisite 'The Feds Frown on this sort of thing...' disclaimer.

/The Feds usually frown on this sort of thing...

Thank you. I wasn't trying to rag on you, but when federal law is involved, disclaimers are needed. But the idea is sound and smart from a technical point of view.

809 Cato the Elder  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 10:19:20pm

re: #805 Fenway_Nation

Fare thee well, homo spaien of the Irish Spring persuasion!

"Sapien" is not the singular of "sapiens", because "sapiens" is not a plural at all.

810 BruceKelly  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 10:20:10pm

re: #790 keloyd

snip..
If I ever had to deal with some intruder in my home, I would prefer to scare him away rather than kill him, so I want the biggest sound I can get.

I've always liked the sound of loading a round into the chamber of a 12 guage pump action shotgun. Slap it hard enough and you probably won't even have to fire it.

811 keloyd  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 10:21:25pm

re: #795 Cato the Elder

Several pics are linked in #732. This is the one we are assuming is a 22, but I have very little gun expertise. link

For the record, I respect 22's when they're the right tool for the job. Jack rabbits? ok! sneaking up behind someone with subsonic bullets like that comment up above? ok sounds good. , looking menacing in a 'patriot' photo? not so much.

812 BruceKelly  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 10:23:06pm

re: #806 iceweasel

Absolutely none taken.

813 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 10:23:40pm

re: #710 Slumbering Behemoth

When I read that word in print, that's how it sounded in my head. Lucky for me I heard it spoken aloud before I tried to speak it myself.

Same with "biopic". I always read it as "by-opic" until I heard it aloud.

When I was still learning to read (NO! It was NOT just last week!) I read "woman" and though it was pronounce "Woah-Man". Or "Woe-Man, take your pick.

One of the first books I read as a child was a kids' adaptation of "The Three Musketeers". It introduced me to the word 'wound', which I had not previously encountered, and it was some time before I could be persuaded that it wasn't pronounced as in 'we wound up fighting the Cardinal's guards again'.

814 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 10:23:43pm

re: #809 Cato the Elder

Wow....I'm impressed that you went right for that and overlooked the fact that I spelled 'sapien' wrong in the first place.
No.
Really.

815 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 10:24:43pm

re: #710 Slumbering Behemoth

When I read that word in print, that's how it sounded in my head. Lucky for me I heard it spoken aloud before I tried to speak it myself.

Same with "biopic". I always read it as "by-opic" until I heard it aloud.

When I was still learning to read (NO! It was NOT just last week!) I read "woman" and though it was pronounce "Woah-Man". Or "Woe-Man, take your pick.

"She was a thief!
You got to believe!
She stole my heart and my CAT."

816 Bagua  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 10:24:55pm

re: #782 Cato the Elder

OK, in general you're right - except that the Beretta .22 pocket pistol "Bobcat" with hollow points has long been a favorite of highly skilled assassins from Mossad and elsewhere.

No, the Beretta 21 Bobcat was not even produced by the time the Mossad had made the Beretta 70 and the functionally identical 71 famous. Also carried and used by the Israeli Sky Marshals over a decade before the Bobcat was born.

The Beretta 70/71 has a 3.5" barrel, the little Bobcat has a 2.4" barrel and the Taurus PT-22 knockoff you have has a 2.75" barrel.

Size matters with pistols.

817 Cato the Elder  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 10:25:12pm

re: #811 keloyd

Several pics are linked in #732. This is the one we are assuming is a 22, but I have very little gun expertise. link

For the record, I respect 22's when they're the right tool for the job. Jack rabbits? ok! sneaking up behind someone with subsonic bullets like that comment up above? ok sounds good. , looking menacing in a 'patriot' photo? not so much.

Oh, quite concur. Dude is, as I said above, a poser. A potentially dangerous one, and probably a sick-fuck rapist, too, but if you look at that pic, it's all about frontin'.

818 Cato the Elder  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 10:25:48pm

re: #814 Fenway_Nation

Wow...I'm impressed that you went right for that and overlooked the fact that I spelled 'sapien' wrong in the first place.
No.
Really.

I try not to be too picky.

819 The Left  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 10:26:53pm

re: #813 SanFranciscoZionist

One of the first books I read as a child was a kids' adaptation of "The Three Musketeers". It introduced me to the word 'wound', which I had not previously encountered, and it was some time before I could be persuaded that it wasn't pronounced as in 'we wound up fighting the Cardinal's guards again'.

Reminds me of this old bit from overheard in new york: beeyotch and biotech:

Dumb teen: Hey, look at this! It says "Train for jobs in biotch."
Smarter teen: Fool! That word is biotech. Why you gotta be ignorant all your life?

820 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 10:27:50pm

re: #816 Bagua

No, the Beretta 21 Bobcat was not even produced by the time the Mossad had made the Beretta 70 and the functionally identical 71 famous. Also carried and used by the Israeli Sky Marshals over a decade before the Bobcat was born.

The Beretta 70/71 has a 3.5" barrel, the little Bobcat has a 2.4" barrel and the Taurus PT-22 knockoff you have has a 2.75" barrel.

Size matters with pistols.

Do they still use .22s? I know that Air Marshals in the US use .40 weapons with frangible ammo.

821 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 10:27:58pm

re: #810 BruceKelly

I've always liked the sound of loading a round into the chamber of a 12 guage pump action shotgun. Slap it hard enough and you probably won't even have to fire it.

I've been told that depending on who you're up against, one of two reactions are likely to occur. Either the intended reaction (OMG! I'm up against somebody with a scattergun!) OR your potential adversary could be a pretty experienced brawler and might actually be thinking 'Just occured to this dumbass to rack a round in the chamber? This will be too easy!'

822 Cato the Elder  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 10:28:19pm

re: #816 Bagua

No, the Beretta 21 Bobcat was not even produced by the time the Mossad had made the Beretta 70 and the functionally identical 71 famous. Also carried and used by the Israeli Sky Marshals over a decade before the Bobcat was born.

The Beretta 70/71 has a 3.5" barrel, the little Bobcat has a 2.4" barrel and the Taurus PT-22 knockoff you have has a 2.75" barrel.

Size matters with pistols.

I stand corrected.

In the case of pocket pistols, if used as intended, the shorter the better.

823 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 10:28:38pm

re: #739 Soap_Man

I've never really seen anything like that. I knew it was out there but...

Can someone enlighten me.. What the hell is a "Fundie Index"?

The original list on that site was "Fundies Say The Darndest Things". Each post gets a 'Fundie Index' number based, I think, on the number of people to "WTF" it. I haven't totally worked out the system.

824 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 10:30:20pm

re: #820 Dark_Falcon

Do they still use .22s? I know that Air Marshals in the US use .40 weapons with frangible ammo.

The Glaser safety slug? Or have they improved on that?

825 keloyd  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 10:32:48pm

Cato-
I just looked up who you are on Wikipedia - so that was your great grandson who got wacked on Rome on HBO by Augustus Caesar. I forgot there were 2 of you. If I remember enough latin to make out your comment - congruo plene!

826 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 10:33:07pm

re: #824 Fenway_Nation

The Glaser safety slug? Or have they improved on that?

I think they are Glasers. Not sure about the model of weapon, but I think they're SiG-Sauers.

827 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 10:33:20pm

re: #771 Soap_Man

Yeah, there's many signs that I might consider silly, but aren't really out of line.

My favorite is "I don't want to press 'one' for English." My God, how fucking inconvenient.

It's also very rare. Normally the little voice offers you a button to press for Spanish, and if you don't press that button, it goes on happily in English at you.

828 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 10:34:27pm

re: #774 iceweasel

Well, there might be lefty nasty there-- I haven't looked at the whole site yet by any means. It reminds me of this one in a way:

Obama is Literally Hitler!

h/t Jimmah, a few months ago. :-)

"Nancy Pelosi is literally Mussolini. We shall refer to her as Pelosolini."

829 keloyd  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 10:37:08pm

I find it ironic the people complaining about Spanish also complain about any restriction to the free market.

If I had a business and Spanish staff and phone menus added to shareholder value, I'd be one Spanish speaking sombitch. It contradicts capitalism to NOT speak Spanish in many times and places. Do they want government regs to force English only rules on businesses? Which party wants the government to solve our problems? I forget.

830 Pawn of the Oppressor  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 10:37:28pm

Well, as a gun-toting non-government-liking person myself, I'm sensitive about media pieces which huff and puff about people's gun collections. But in this case...

- CHARGED with FIRST-DEGREE rape. Not accused, or alleged in the news, but CHARGED.
- Grenade launcher confirmed as unregistered, with charges pending.

Off to jail with ye, crazy person.

831 BruceKelly  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 10:37:32pm

re: #821 Fenway_Nation

I've been told that depending on who you're up against, one of two reactions are likely to occur. Either the intended reaction (OMG! I'm up against somebody with a scattergun!) OR your potential adversary could be a pretty experienced brawler and might actually be thinking 'Just occured to this dumbass to rack a round in the chamber? This will be too easy!'

You're right, and the longer the barrel the easier it is to have it taken away from you - but night crawling burglars are rarely experienced brawlers.

832 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 10:38:50pm

re: #826 Dark_Falcon

As much as I dig firearms, I've been out of the loop for quite awhile. I remember the Marlin Camp Carbine sort of fondly....and a few years I didn't really pay attention to the latest developments in the industry and I kinda felt a little like Rip Van Winkle when I was trying to catch up.

/"Smith and Wesson makes AR-15s, 1911A1s and PPKs now? Jesus- do they still make any of their own products!?"

833 Cato the Elder  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 10:40:12pm

re: #832 Fenway_Nation

My friend is in the process of buying a PPK as a gift for his uncle. Can't wait to see that thing.

834 Gus  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 10:40:40pm

re: #823 SanFranciscoZionist

The original list on that site was "Fundies Say The Darndest Things". Each post gets a 'Fundie Index' number based, I think, on the number of people to "WTF" it. I haven't totally worked out the system.

That site is a trip. He's the latest from Creep Republic:

[Uganda introduces a law giving gays the death penalty]

I’d like to get a copy of the bill and introduce it here...

Maddog55, Free Republic 45 Comments [1/19/2010 2:35:53 AM]
Fundie Index: 34

835 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 10:43:14pm

I have no idea why my husband thought I needed to see this. But now I am inflicting it on all of you.

836 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 10:45:21pm

re: #833 Cato the Elder

I never got that Red Ryder Ruger Mini14 for Christmas.

/pout

837 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 10:47:17pm

re: #835 SanFranciscoZionist

Pink does a surprisingly nice version.....

838 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 10:48:07pm

re: #834 Gus 802

Well, I'd point out to the fundie that it was his shithead leadership that got that bill introduced in the first place. Great job guys, you got a jackass back-bencher to introduce a vile bill that has won Uganda infamy. Now please go Fuck Off!

839 Bagua  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 10:49:39pm

re: #826 Dark_Falcon

I think they are Glasers. Not sure about the model of weapon, but I think they're SiG-Sauers.

Last I read the US Sky-Marshalls were using the SIG P-229 in 357 firing an ordinary 125-grain hollow point traveling at about 1,350 fps. The idea is to kill the terrorist quickly and make each shot count.

840 BruceKelly  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 10:50:18pm

re: #835 SanFranciscoZionist

I have no idea why my husband thought I needed to see this. But now I am inflicting it on all of you.

That bastard. I'll inflict it on my wife first thing tomorrow morning. Very funny.

841 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 10:50:30pm

re: #832 Fenway_Nation

As much as I dig firearms, I've been out of the loop for quite awhile. I remember the Marlin Camp Carbine sort of fondly...and a few years I didn't really pay attention to the latest developments in the industry and I kinda felt a little like Rip Van Winkle when I was trying to catch up.

/"Smith and Wesson makes AR-15s, 1911A1s and PPKs now? Jesus- do they still make any of their own products!?"

I think they still make their .45 ACP revolver. You need half-moon clips to quickly reload, but its a good weapon.

842 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 10:50:35pm

re: #834 Gus 802

My favorite remains the man who wants to go back in time and kill the Buddha.

843 Gus  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 10:51:27pm

re: #842 SanFranciscoZionist

My favorite remains the man who wants to go back in time and kill the Buddha.

Good thing I wasn't drinking when I read that. What for?

844 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 10:52:49pm

re: #839 Bagua

Last I read the US Sky-Marshalls were using the SIG P-229 in 357 firing an ordinary 125-grain hollow point traveling at about 1,350 fps. The idea is to kill the terrorist quickly and make each shot count.

Cool, I hadn't heard that. At least I was right about the manufacturer. .357 SiG is a deadly round in hollowpoint and an airplane is one of the few places you can be sure your target is unarmored.

845 Gus  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 10:53:19pm

re: #842 SanFranciscoZionist

My favorite remains the man who wants to go back in time and kill the Buddha.

This one?

I wish God would send me back in time so that I could drown Buddha in the Genghis River. It'd be worth it, because it would prevent him from misleading so many people into atheism.

MessianicServant, Fstdt 72 Comments [12/19/2009 11:48:09 PM]
Fundie Index: 99

846 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 10:56:19pm

re: #845 Gus 802

Yes. The Genghis River was a nice touch.

847 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 10:56:38pm

re: #845 Gus 802

Bad, Murderous, Sick. That one will get a surprise when he dies. God doesn't like people who walk around immersed in a desire to kill. Law Enforcement, however, should keep a close eye on such a person, since they are the people liable to commit hate crimes.

848 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 10:57:11pm

re: #841 Dark_Falcon

Can I get anything in 10mm or .41AE?/////

Shit....I'm so out of the loop, they introduced new calibers when I wasn't paying attention (.357SIG and .45GAP). Are those even worth any consideration, or should I go with the 'old' standby of 9mm. .38, .40, or .45ACP?

849 Bagua  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 10:58:11pm

re: #833 Cato the Elder

My friend is in the process of buying a PPK as a gift for his uncle. Can't wait to see that thing.

I have a pre-ban Walther PPK 7.65 made in WG. This of course being the model and calibre issued to Mr. Bond.

850 tradewind  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 11:00:34pm

Sounds like the crazy grenade-launching rapist was not so much of a tea party-er, but more a militia extremist using a tea party forum to spew.

851 Gus  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 11:00:40pm

Night folks.

852 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 11:01:09pm

re: #848 Fenway_Nation

Can I get anything in 10mm or .41AE?///

Shit...I'm so out of the loop, they introduced new calibers when I wasn't paying attention (.357SIG and .45GAP). Are those even worth any consideration, or should I go with the 'old' standby of 9mm. .38, .40, or .45ACP?

The .45 GAP is good, if Glocks are your thing. It depends on what you want to do. If you seek a concealed carry weapon, I'd still gravitate to one of the small .45 ACP models. Those give you heavy striking power in a small package.

853 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 11:03:36pm

re: #849 Bagua

I have a pre-ban Walther PPK 7.65 made in WG. This of course being the model and calibre issued to Mr. Bond.

The PPK is a good weapon, but its use is declining as 9mm subcompacts enter the market. Even in Europe, users tend to prefer the larger round, which is more useful for taking down a crazed jihadi.

854 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 11:09:24pm

Things seem to be winding down, so I'm going to head to bed. Goodnight, all.

855 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 11:09:38pm

The Ukulele Orchestra of Great Britain - Life on Mars

Namaste, y'all

856 tradewind  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 11:11:04pm

re: #842 SanFranciscoZionist
What a jerk. Everyone knows you're supposed to rub his tummy for luck, not kill him!//

857 tradewind  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 11:12:36pm

re: #855 Killgore Trout
Thanks, KT, nice.
..... but now I miss Life On Mars.

858 Bagua  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 11:14:18pm

re: #844 Dark_Falcon

Cool, I hadn't heard that. At least I was right about the manufacturer. .357 SiG is a deadly round in hollowpoint and an airplane is one of the few places you can be sure your target is unarmored.

Those 'Gold Dot' rounds pack quite a punch, and yes, in general preferences have migrated to the more powerful rounds.

I am a bit of a heretic in the gun community as I favour the Beretta 21 Bobcat just like the wise Cato, but in 25 ACP. This for 'personal protection' as opposed to 'law enforcement'.

The point being law enforcement means pursuing and engaging targets at somewhat longer distances, whereas self defence almost always occurs at a very close distance. I am much more likely to have my little gun handy and ready at a close distance. I'll get the first 3 or 4 shots in before a more sensibly sized pistol has left the holster as my hand is in my pocket and I don't have to draw down.

859 BruceKelly  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 11:19:16pm

re: #857 tradewind

Here's one for you, by Seu Jorge, from the the Bill Murray movie "The Life Aquatic."

860 Fenway_Nation  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 11:20:19pm

re: #854 Dark_Falcon

Night!

861 tradewind  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 11:24:12pm

re: #854 Dark_Falcon
Goodnight, Johnboy.
Night, Mary Ellen.........

862 Bagua  Wed, Jan 20, 2010 11:34:32pm


.44 Pistol


- RLB

Stay safe.

863 BlackFedora  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 12:11:28am

I can hear it now... the accusation that these are "trumped up charges" is going to start flying fast and furious. I swear... I really regret the day George H. W. Bush said the phrase "new world order" because these people went absolutely insane but then again even if he hadn't said it they still would've gone insane but it drives me nuts because they don't think about the context that Mr. Bush 41 was saying that in and that the phrase "new world order" really all depends on context. Honestly I haven't heard a context where its really scared me.

Honestly there are a lot of mentally unstable folks listening to Alex Jones, Jeff Rense, Jesse Ventura and others and when they go on a rampage I definitely know who I'm blaming.

864 Cato the Elder  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 12:30:24am

re: #863 BlackFedora

I can hear it now... the accusation that these are "trumped up charges" is going to start flying fast and furious. I swear... I really regret the day George H. W. Bush said the phrase "new world order" because these people went absolutely insane but then again even if he hadn't said it they still would've gone insane but it drives me nuts because they don't think about the context that Mr. Bush 41 was saying that in and that the phrase "new world order" really all depends on context. Honestly I haven't heard a context where its really scared me.

Honestly there are a lot of mentally unstable folks listening to Alex Jones, Jeff Rense, Jesse Ventura and others and when they go on a rampage I definitely know who I'm blaming.

It would have happened without Daddy Bush. Every greasy dollar bill in your pocket says "novus ordo saeclorum" = "the new order of the ages" (that is, the sublunary world). Put that together with the eye on the pyramid and other Masonic claptrap and you have all the seed you'll ever need for conspiracy theories from here to the End of Days.

865 ryannon  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 2:19:15am

re: #740 Cato the Elder

"Hypercorrect" actually means incorrect. It's when you say something wrong because you're bending over backwards to avoid another mistake that you think you might be committing if you said the thing correctly. The noun is "hypercorrection".

It is absolutely incorrect to say "dad called and wants you and I to come over for breakfast."

It's "you and me". If it was just me he wanted, I wouldn't say "he wants I to come to breakfast."

"The boss has invited my wife and I to dinner" is worse than saying "hey, dude, let's you and me go bowling tonight." By a long chalk.

Got it?

Yes sir. And thank you.

(Begins episode of bi-polar depression).

866 Cato the Elder  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 2:23:52am

re: #865 ryannon

Well, heck, there's no reason for that, now. Be well. You and me go way back.

867 huggy77  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 9:01:30am

re: #59 albusteve
lol - i like it...

when i put something like this out i often wonder how many down dings i will get... i have to set my ceiling at 11!

868 huggy77  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 9:10:33am

re: #136 palomino

At least one of them has if bill ayers still allowed to vote... i mean if we are going to play the association game.

869 Bulldoglover100  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 9:18:43am

re: #850 tradewind

Sounds like the crazy grenade-launching rapist was not so much of a tea party-er, but more a militia extremist using a tea party forum to spew.

The men in Tea Parties, for the most part, seem to be men who have been waiting their whole life for a reason to carry their guns and pant about protection. Sad really that in this day and age they somehow missed being educated.

870 Sacred Plants  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 9:51:35am

Mind-boggling how much insanity the Tea Party can accumulate and as a movement still be less insane than the stimulus.

871 MittDoesNotCompute  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 6:56:11pm

re: #198 Dark_Falcon

What is with these people calling you gay? Why do they obsess about gayness so much? I don't get it.

Because to the wacko right-wing fringe that comprises a chunk of the TP/RP brigades, calling someone gay is a righteous slur, given to those they feel worthy of that old-time religious retribution from the OT (see Sodom and Gomorrah).

/am I off base?

872 MittDoesNotCompute  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 7:08:46pm

re: #445 captdiggs

Care to recount all the right wing extremist plots associated with the "tea party" that have been uncovered with suspects arrested?
Even in this case, there has so far been no mention of some vast plot.

There's a lot of left wing hysteria here.
Sometimes I think it's just the mirror image of Glen Beck's hysteria.

F**k off, chump...

873 funky chicken  Thu, Jan 21, 2010 7:51:46pm

re: #38 Decatur Deb

Unless they build a myth that the charges and search are a setup.

Eh, unlikely that many folks will do that. Law enforcement agencies are pretty respected here in Oklahoma.

874 jordash1212  Fri, Jan 22, 2010 1:00:42am

Kooks with guns... goes to jail.


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