1 Political Atheist  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 6:33:31pm

Wow. A meeting of two very good minds. Love it great choice.

2 Killgore Trout  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 6:34:12pm

He looks really god for 60. I never would have guessed.

3 reine.de.tout  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 6:35:00pm

re: #2 Killgore Trout

He looks really god for 60. I never would have guessed.

You will be surprised.
As you get older, the better the old folks look.
Heh.

4 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 6:36:04pm

Well at least Hitchens knows the importance of the US and UK armies in protecting their nations from the forces of Jihad.

I'm not going to see the vid for a good while. Between Whale Wars and Flashpoint my eyes are busy at the moment.

5 Obdicut  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 6:39:36pm

re: #2 Killgore Trout

He looks really god for 60. I never would have guessed.

Especially given his liquid diet.

6 Killgore Trout  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 6:39:45pm

Bravo!

7 studentpatriot  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 6:39:51pm

Thank you Charles for posting this, it was a great interview indeed.

8 Killgore Trout  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 6:40:12pm

re: #5 Obdicut

I'm 20 years behind him and look much worse.

9 Political Atheist  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 6:42:06pm

re: #2 Killgore Trout

He looks really god for 60. I never would have guessed.

Hah! Sorry but the typo of CH as god instead of good.... Beer spray!

10 Charles Johnson  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 6:42:15pm

I'm waiting for UPS to deliver my EyeTV HD. The HD cable box is set up and functioning. If I connect it to the old EyeTV 200 with S-Video it works fine; I can even see the HD channels that way, but not in HD of course.

Yep, I'm an early adopter of this one. HDTV on a 30-inch monitor. Bring it.

11 Killgore Trout  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 6:42:49pm

re: #3 reine.de.tout

You will be surprised.
As you get older, the better the old folks look.
Heh.

I'm also often shocked at some of the kids I see driving. They look like toddlers.

12 albusteve  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 6:44:28pm

re: #2 Killgore Trout

He looks really god for 60. I never would have guessed.

women can do that

13 Political Atheist  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 6:46:23pm

re: #11 Killgore Trout

I'm also often shocked at some of the kids I see driving. They look like toddlers.

Wait till you get pulled over by a highway patrolman or woman who appears to young to drive. Now that makes you feel older.

14 Cato the Elder  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 6:49:05pm

Reports of Hitchens's death have been greatly exaggerated.

15 albusteve  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 6:49:29pm

I don't pull over, I floor it...
it's common knowledge chicks can't drive

16 Cato the Elder  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 6:57:22pm

At least when Hitchens steals a title to pun on, it makes sense.

Unlike the unspeakable Michael Moore and "Fahrenheit 9/11". I'm still wondering WTF that means.

17 SteveMcG  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 6:59:43pm

re: #16 Cato the Elder
I wonder what title he turned to to choose Fahrenheit 9/11.

18 avanti  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 7:00:26pm

Wikileaks story is

interesting.


"Where in the world is Julian Assange?

Yesterday the Daily Beast's Phil Shenon reported that Pentagon investigators are frantically searching for Assange, the white-haired and willfully inscrutable founder of WikiLeaks, in the hopes of stopping him from exposing more than 200,000 classified diplomatic cables: "Pentagon investigators are trying to determine the whereabouts of the Australian-born founder of the secretive website WikiLeaks for fear that he may be about to publish a huge cache of classified State Department cables that, if made public, could do serious damage to national security, government officials tell The Daily Beast."

19 albusteve  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 7:03:38pm
20 Cato the Elder  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 7:08:01pm

re: #17 SteveMcG

I wonder what title he turned to to choose Fahrenheit 9/11.

Not a big Ray Bradbury fan, I take it.

Bradbury was pissed.

21 freetoken  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 7:09:55pm

re: #18 avanti

... he may be about to publish a huge cache of classified State Department cables that, if made public, could do serious damage to national security, government officials tell The Daily Beast."

That is a claim that I never know whether to believe or not, and it's something that can't be verified until after the fact.

22 Cato the Elder  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 7:09:56pm

re: #18 avanti

Wikileaks story is

interesting.

"Where in the world is Julian Assange?

Yesterday the Daily Beast's Phil Shenon reported that Pentagon investigators are frantically searching for Assange, the white-haired and willfully inscrutable founder of WikiLeaks, in the hopes of stopping him from exposing more than 200,000 classified diplomatic cables: "Pentagon investigators are trying to determine the whereabouts of the Australian-born founder of the secretive website WikiLeaks for fear that he may be about to publish a huge cache of classified State Department cables that, if made public, could do serious damage to national security, government officials tell The Daily Beast."

Great. Just great.

I am in favor of most exposés, but this guy is playing with lives here.

23 Reginald Perrin  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 7:10:39pm

Charles:
Readers outside the United States are not able the view Comedy Central videos on their website. Living in Canada I can view this video on our Canada's Comedy Network but had to use google to find the date it was first broadcast.
It might be a good idea to post the date for the convenience of foreign lizards.

24 Political Atheist  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 7:10:53pm

re: #22 Cato the Elder

Maybe our lives. "Our" as in if they spark some great outrage that gets violent...

25 Cato the Elder  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 7:11:23pm

re: #21 freetoken

That is a claim that I never know whether to believe or not, and it's something that can't be verified until after the fact.

And if "after the fact" gets Americans murdered?

26 freetoken  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 7:12:28pm

re: #25 Cato the Elder

And if "after the fact" gets Americans murdered?

Ergo, the conundrum.

27 albusteve  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 7:13:30pm

re: #26 freetoken

Ergo, the conundrum.

I like to think of it as conundrum solved

28 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 7:14:30pm

re: #22 Cato the Elder

Great. Just great.

I am in favor of most exposés, but this guy is playing with lives here.

Agreed. I seriously think that he should not be allowed to broadcast information that damaging. If needed his servers should be hacked and destroyed to prevent him form leaking the info. He should be stopped using any nonviolent means necessary, even if illegal.

29 sattv4u2  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 7:15:25pm

re: #14 Cato the Elder

Reports of Hitchens's death have been greatly exaggerated.

He got better!

30 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 7:16:14pm

re: #23 Reginald Perrin

LOL!
You gotta work for it!

31 freetoken  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 7:16:44pm

re: #27 albusteve

I like to think of it as conundrum solved

And of the endless parade of politicians and bureaucrats throughout the governments of the world who want to cover up embarrassing or illegal actions by using the "national security" (or similar) claim - do we give them all a pass?

32 albusteve  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 7:17:13pm

re: #28 Dark_Falcon

Agreed. I seriously think that he should not be allowed to broadcast information that damaging. If needed his servers should be hacked and destroyed to prevent him form leaking the info. He should be stopped using any nonviolent means necessary, even if illegal.

agreed...but I prefer legal violence, if it comes to that, rather than illegal non violence

33 Dr. Shalit  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 7:17:28pm

It took "Hitch" until he was about 51 to understand that his world had changed. Glad he did. He has been a voice of sanity ever since. I will be 59 this summer, and have followed the same path, more or less. Whatever the theory is, folks like "Hitch" - and myself - I would hope, want to believe in SOMETHING greater than themselves. When we were young, Marxism was an easy one. As we got older - Not So Much. I will end here to invite comments. -S-

34 sattv4u2  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 7:18:16pm

re: #2 Killgore Trout

He looks really god for 60. I never would have guessed.

I'll be 57 this year

I can pass for early 40's

35 albusteve  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 7:19:07pm

re: #31 freetoken

And of the endless parade of politicians and bureaucrats throughout the governments of the world who want to cover up embarrassing or illegal actions by using the "national security" (or similar) claim - do we give them all a pass?

no, build more prisons....half the population should be incarcerated any way

36 Reginald Perrin  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 7:19:59pm
Yesterday the Daily Beast's Phil Shenon reported that Pentagon investigators are frantically searching for Assange, the white-haired and willfully inscrutable founder of WikiLeaks, in the hopes of stopping him from exposing more than 200,000 classified diplomatic cables:

Maybe the pentagon investigators should have kept quiet about looking for him and used the googles instead. Assange was scheduled to be making a speech in Las Vegas tomorrow but he canceled his speech when he learned they were looking for him.

37 albusteve  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 7:20:01pm

re: #34 sattv4u2

I'll be 57 this year

I can pass for early 40's

get outa here you prune
I call bullshit!

38 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 7:20:03pm

re: #32 albusteve

agreed...but I prefer legal violence, if it comes to that, rather than illegal non violence

So do i, but it's not an option in this case. Killing or maiming him would make him into a martyr, and he'd be even more powerful.

39 Reginald Perrin  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 7:20:36pm

re: #30 Floral Giraffe

LOL!
You gotta work for it!

Beats begging for it.
*smack*

40 sattv4u2  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 7:21:20pm

re: #37 albusteve

get outa here you prune
I call bullshit!

Nope,, full head of hair,, no gray at all

I'm within 10 lbs of the weight I was in college (150 then, 157 now)

41 Dr. Shalit  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 7:21:36pm

re: #34 sattv4u2

I'll be 57 this year

I can pass for early 40's

satt -

My secretary will be 29 soon and has a 9 year old son. When all 3 of us are together, many have thought I was his dad. I am not! I got the program.

-S-

42 albusteve  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 7:21:58pm

re: #38 Dark_Falcon

So do i, but it's not an option in this case. Killing or maiming him would make him into a martyr, and he'd be even more powerful.

whatever, you bust him and he shoots at you, he likely will end up dead...so be it...you still have to stop him

43 Killgore Trout  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 7:22:46pm

While LGF is turning up real original stories and MSM forgeries Hot Air has a scoop of their own tonight....
Bill Kristol: Obama planning to join UN call for international probe of flotilla raid; Update: Corroboration?


Update: Just got an interesting e-mail from a trustworthy source and regular HA reader:

Sources of mine who are in positions to know confirmed that they’ve heard the same thing [as Kristol]. I suspect what’s going on here is a White House shot across the bow, a reminder to Bibi that things can get very nasty if he defies The One. Remember: the 10-month settlement freeze ends in September, right before the midterms, and Bibi plans on firing up the backhoes again. His coalition would fall apart if he didn’t, and he would look pathetic to boot. But in deference to the electoral prospects of his party, Obama doesn’t want to kick off another chapter in the Obama-Israel psychodrama right before the midterms. The Israelis know this and are keeping their powder dry for September. Obama is probably trying to warn them that he’d love nothing more than to let Susan Rice throw them unprotected into the UN arena.

An email from an anonymous blog reader on an already debunked outrageous outrage!
/Big News!

44 sattv4u2  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 7:23:16pm

re: #41 Dr. Shalit

satt -

My secretary will be 29 soon and has a 9 year old son. When all 3 of us are together, many have thought I was his dad. I am not! I got the program.

-S-

Yup ,, good genes

Mu mother is 85 this year and just starting to get some gray around the temples

3 out of 4 grandparents lived into their mid 90's

45 albusteve  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 7:23:19pm

re: #40 sattv4u2

Nope,, full head of hair,, no gray at all

I'm within 10 lbs of the weight I was in college (150 then, 157 now)

what a stud!....I wanna be like you!

46 Cato the Elder  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 7:24:07pm

re: #26 freetoken

Ergo, the conundrum.

Well, it may not be Assange who's to blame. Someone had to give him access to the cables.

However, if he publishes them without vetting them first, he takes responsibility.

I am not and never have been a free-speech/freedom-of-information absolutist.

47 albusteve  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 7:24:23pm

re: #44 sattv4u2

Yup ,, good genes

Mu mother is 85 this year and just starting to get some gray around the temples

3 out of 4 grandparents lived into their mid 90's

so you're no prune, more like a raisin...my bad

48 sattv4u2  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 7:24:30pm

re: #45 albusteve

what a stud!...I wanna be like you!

For just three payments of $29.99 and I'll send you the secret DVD!
/

49 Lidane  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 7:24:45pm

Even when I've disagreed with him, I've always liked Hitch. He's an interesting read. At the moment, I've got a stack of books by my bed that's ridiculous, so this will have to wait until it hits paperback for me.

Great interview, though.

50 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 7:25:17pm

re: #42 albusteve

whatever, you bust him and he shoots at you, he likely will end up dead...so be it...you still have to stop him

He won't do anything violent, he never has. "Killed while attempting escape" is not an option.

51 Dr. Shalit  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 7:25:19pm

re: #40 sattv4u2

Nope,, full head of hair,, no gray at all

I'm within 10 lbs of the weight I was in college (150 then, 157 now)

satt -

I am a bit bigger than in college. I am the size I was in High School. I was the guy with the Freshman "Minus 15, or more. -S-

52 Killgore Trout  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 7:25:34pm

re: #43 Killgore Trout

And dont even get me started on Hot Air's unconstitutional thread about violating the 14th amendment: Arizona governor to illegals: If your child is a U.S. citizen, take him back home with you

These people are so far off the map that Hubble can't see them.

53 avanti  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 7:25:59pm

AZ. governor gives mixed status immigrants a tough choice, go back with your legal citizen kids, or leave them. That's a tough choice for those that have been here many years and I don't have a easy answer.

54 Cato the Elder  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 7:26:11pm

re: #28 Dark_Falcon

Agreed. I seriously think that he should not be allowed to broadcast information that damaging. If needed his servers should be hacked and destroyed to prevent him form leaking the info. He should be stopped using any nonviolent means necessary, even if illegal.

Well, given that a lot of people here got their knickers twisty over the "illegal" hacking of the AGW emails, I'd have to say you're right.

And because he is illegally publishing classified information (there was nothing "classified" about the East Anglia emails), stomping on him by covert means would not cause me to weep.

55 avanti  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 7:27:35pm

re: #52 Killgore Trout

And dont even get me started on Hot Air's unconstitutional thread about violating the 14th amendment: Arizona governor to illegals: If your child is a U.S. citizen, take him back home with you

These people are so far off the map that Hubble can't see them.

GMTA

56 Lidane  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 7:27:52pm

re: #53 avanti

AZ. governor gives mixed status immigrants a tough choice, go back with your legal citizen kids, or leave them. That's a tough choice for those that have been here many years and I don't have a easy answer.

I *do* have an easy answer for the governor of Arizona, but it would get me banned here. =P

57 albusteve  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 7:28:01pm

re: #50 Dark_Falcon

He won't do anything violent, he never has. "Killed while attempting escape" is not an option.

if he escapes with an AK, it's an option
jus sayin...I'm no Froid

58 Political Atheist  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 7:28:23pm

re: #31 freetoken

Maybe we can have enough oversight we need not crash out classified documents to get them. Maybe?

59 Killgore Trout  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 7:28:47pm

re: #53 avanti

Yeah, I was just looking at that. It's one of those things that makes for a very complicated issue. However, the intent and wishes of those supporting the bill is to violate the 14th amendment. That ain't gonna happen. They are fucked in court and will wind up on the wrong side of history.

60 Dr. Shalit  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 7:29:52pm

re: #44 sattv4u2

Yup ,, good genes

Mu mother is 85 this year and just starting to get some gray around the temples

3 out of 4 grandparents lived into their mid 90's

satt -

I have had gray hairs since I was 17. More now than then, and altogether a color Isuzu used to call "Greyblonde" on their final in-house attempt at an SUV, the AXIOM - the one replaced by the "Ass-Ender" built by GM in Shreveport LA. -S-

61 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 7:30:57pm

re: #57 albusteve

if he escapes with an AK, it's an option
jus sayin...I'm no Froid

No one would believe that, Steve. I'm not squeamish about the use of force, but I don't approve of its use when the most likely outcome is that it will boomerang on use. Hack the computer, destroy the files. No bloodshed. That's the best solution.

62 SteveMcG  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 7:32:31pm

re: #61 Dark_Falcon

No one would believe that, Steve. I'm not squeamish about the use of force, but I don't approve of its use when the most likely outcome is that it will boomerang on use. Hack the computer, destroy the files. No bloodshed. That's the best solution.

Don't you think he backed them up?

63 Cato the Elder  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 7:32:57pm

re: #29 sattv4u2

He got better!

The whole newt thing was also blown out of proportion.

64 Dr. Shalit  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 7:33:13pm

re: #52 Killgore Trout

Killgore Trout -

Deportation of parents who take their child with them does NOT preclude the citizenship claim of the child upon majority. The 14th Amendment guarantees that. -S-

65 SteveMcG  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 7:33:18pm

How can he prove the files are authentic?

66 brainwizard73  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 7:34:57pm

re: #53 avanti

Since the kids still have thier status, they can come back later if they want to, but it is still a tough issue. Have to think kids are better off with mom and/or dad, even if they are in the "old country".

67 Cato the Elder  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 7:35:48pm

re: #65 SteveMcG

How can he prove the files are authentic?

It doesn't matter. If they cast a bad light on the US, they will be believed.

Because they are State Department cables, they will likely cast a bad light on a whole lotta other people, too.

Could be interesting.

[Cato buckles up]

68 brainwizard73  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 7:36:06pm

re: #64 Dr. Shalit

Killgore Trout -

Deportation of parents who take their child with them does NOT preclude the citizenship claim of the child upon majority. The 14th Amendment guarantees that. -S-

Bingo. 10-12 years from now there will be a boat load of kids turning 18 and moving back to Austin and San Fran...

69 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 7:36:57pm

re: #62 SteveMcG

Don't you think he backed them up?

He might have, but we need to try to destroy the copies we know of while still looking for the others. If he used online backup, it gets easier: Just let the backup companies know that any company that has dealings with Julian Assange and doesn't report him to DoD will never get another US government contract.

70 brainwizard73  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 7:38:59pm

re: #69 Dark_Falcon

Not to go too far off the deep end, but any company that deals with this material may be committing a federal felony, too.

71 Cato the Elder  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 7:39:12pm

Funny how Windsagio takes a powder when one of his atheist icons praises the military as "idealists".

72 SteveMcG  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 7:40:04pm

re: #69 Dark_Falcon

You're kind of hoping he makes it easy for us, but I doubt he would. Personally, I never liked online backup. Don't trust it. My daily backups are on flash drives and weeklys (weeklies?) on DVD's. If this guy has something spcial, he's gotta have a physical backup.

73 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 7:41:17pm

re: #39 Reginald Perrin

Beats begging for it.
*smack*

Please, Sir?
*smack*

74 sattv4u2  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 7:42:55pm

re: #71 Cato the Elder

Funny how Windsagio takes a powder when one of his atheist icons praises the military as "idealists".

just a coincidence, I'm sure !

75 SteveMcG  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 7:44:00pm

re: #71 Cato the Elder

Funny how Windsagio takes a powder when one of his atheist icons praises the military as "idealists".

Maybe it's the other way around. Or maybe, you never see both at the same time. Hmmm...

76 Dr. Shalit  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 7:44:29pm

re: #68 brainwizard73

Bingo. 10-12 years from now there will be a boat load of kids turning 18 and moving back to Austin and San Fran...

Yes -

AND - Under our Constitution and Laws as they stand, We Have No Choice in the Matter.
I am NO FOOL regarding this issue. I am willing to give the parents of these children resident alien status - NOT CITIZENSHIP AND THE VOTE, EVER! More or less - and less than more - they get the same treatment resident aliens get under the MEXICAN CONSTITUTION and LAWS which are far stricter than those of the USA. -S-

77 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 7:45:14pm

re: #73 Floral Giraffe

Please, Sir?
*smack*

Trying out the new paddle, I see. ;)

78 Cato the Elder  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 7:45:37pm

Where's Walter tonight?

I just started watching "Lost" on Netflix Instant.

There's a dog in the first scene and I want to make sure he makes it.

Also I didn't know there was a Hobbit on the island.

79 Reginald Perrin  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 7:46:29pm

re: #77 Dark_Falcon

Trying out the new paddle, I see. ;)

She likes the riding crop better than the paddle.
That's why I use the paddle.

80 sattv4u2  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 7:47:21pm

re: #78 Cato the Elder

Where's Walter tonight?

I just started watching "Lost" on Netflix Instant.

There's a dog in the first scene and I want to make sure he makes it.

Also I didn't know there was a Hobbit on the island.

he said something this morning (or maybe it was late last night) that he was tumbling rocks for jewelery that he;s sold or trying to sell, iirc

81 Cato the Elder  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 7:47:55pm

re: #79 Reginald Perrin

She likes the riding crop better than the paddle.
That's why I use the paddle.

Masochist: "Please hurt me!"

Sadist: "No."

82 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 7:48:35pm

Mr. Hitchens is clearly a brilliant thinker with a very firm grasp of logic and reason. He makes many very good, clearly articulated points here. However he is an atheist, and that makes him de facto wrong about everything offers an opinion on.
///

83 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 7:48:40pm

re: #76 Dr. Shalit

Yes -

AND - Under our Constitution and Laws as they stand, We Have No Choice in the Matter.
I am NO FOOL regarding this issue. I am willing to give the parents of these children resident alien status - NOT CITIZENSHIP AND THE VOTE, EVER! More or less - and less than more - they get the same treatment resident aliens get under the MEXICAN CONSTITUTION and LAWS which are far stricter than those of the USA. -S-

That sounds fair. The child was born here and is a citizen, since it's the child's choice where he or she is born. I don't want to break up families, but we should keep the benefits to the parents to a minimum. Your proposal is an excellent way to do that.

84 SteveMcG  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 7:49:31pm

I know too well,
I'm underneath your spell
Ad darling if you smell
Something burning it's my heart - hic, excuse me!

85 KDS1  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 7:49:39pm

Thanks for a great clip. It was worth it to wait to the end. Just to hear some honesty for once.

86 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 7:50:41pm

re: #71 Cato the Elder

Funny how Windsagio takes a powder when one of his atheist icons praises the military as "idealists".

I don't think Windsagio is an atheist. Did I miss a comment where he claimed such?

87 NJDhockeyfan  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 7:51:10pm

Evening lizards!

88 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 7:51:25pm

re: #77 Dark_Falcon

Trying out the new paddle, I see. ;)

Yes, it's lovely.
Would you like a turn?

89 Varek Raith  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 7:51:40pm

re: #86 Slumbering Behemoth

I don't think Windsagio is an atheist. Did I miss a comment where he claimed such?

He's not.

90 SteveMcG  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 7:53:32pm

I guess I'm sort of a functional atheist. I believe in God, but I don't think anybody could tell the diff.

91 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 7:54:01pm

re: #89 Varek Raith

Yeah, I seem to remember him being in the "Bald is a hair color" camp. Am I mistaken?

92 Cato the Elder  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 7:54:24pm

re: #80 sattv4u2

he said something this morning (or maybe it was late last night) that he was tumbling rocks for jewelery that he;s sold or trying to sell, iirc

I am honored to own a Walter production - one of his "totem ties". A little leather double strap with eight stones, finished with silver wire on the top end and an amber bead on the bottom. Stones are jade alternating with graded blood quartz. The leather straps tie nicely to my Swiss Army knife's lanyard loop.

93 Varek Raith  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 7:55:37pm

re: #91 Slumbering Behemoth

Yeah, I seem to remember him being in the "Bald is a hair color" camp. Am I mistaken?

You're not mistaken.

94 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 7:55:41pm

re: #92 Cato the Elder

I've only seen photos of his work, but it is quite impressive. Dude's got skills.

95 Cato the Elder  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 7:55:47pm

re: #86 Slumbering Behemoth

I don't think Windsagio is an atheist. Did I miss a comment where he claimed such?

You may be right. He's too wishy-washy to be an atheist.

96 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 7:56:16pm

re: #88 Floral Giraffe

Yes, it's lovely.
Would you like a turn?

Nah, I can't get through a turn right now due to coughing fits.

97 sattv4u2  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 7:56:24pm

re: #92 Cato the Elder

I am honored to own a Walter production - one of his "totem ties". A little leather double strap with eight stones, finished with silver wire on the top end and an amber bead on the bottom. Stones are jade alternating with graded blood quartz. The leather straps tie nicely to my Swiss Army knife's lanyard loop.

Neat!

He was kind enough to send my son a precious stone

98 SteveMcG  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 7:56:30pm

re: #95 Cato the Elder

You may be right. He's too wishy-washy to be an atheist.

If you're wishy-washy, doesn't that make you agnostic?

99 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 7:57:21pm

re: #96 Dark_Falcon

Nah, I can't get through a turn right now due to coughing fits.

Boo. Aren't you feeling better? I'm sorry you are still not well.
Feel better!

100 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 7:57:23pm

re: #28 Dark_Falcon

Agreed. I seriously think that he should not be allowed to broadcast information that damaging. If needed his servers should be hacked and destroyed to prevent him form leaking the info. He should be stopped using any nonviolent means necessary, even if illegal.

it's not that easy ;-)

101 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 7:57:28pm

re: #93 Varek Raith

Ah, you seem to be on top of the proper info. With that in mind, can you help me figure out wtf is wrong with my car. Damnit!

102 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 7:57:54pm

re: #95 Cato the Elder

You may be right. He's too wishy-washy to be an atheist.

he's actually Protestant, as he's said many many times

103 SteveMcG  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 7:58:16pm

re: #101 Slumbering Behemoth

Ah, you seem to be on top of the proper info. With that in mind, can you help me figure out wtf is wrong with my car. Damnit!

Call Click and CLack.

104 Varek Raith  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 7:58:25pm

re: #101 Slumbering Behemoth

Ah, you seem to be on top of the proper info. With that in mind, can you help me figure out wtf is wrong with my car. Damnit!

Hit it with a wrench or something.

105 Political Atheist  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 7:58:32pm

ODS or not?

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

106 Cato the Elder  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 7:58:34pm

re: #102 WindUpBird

he's actually Protestant, as he's said many many times

Next best thing to an atheist in my Catholic book.

107 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 7:58:54pm

re: #106 Cato the Elder

Next best thing to an atheist in my Catholic book.

okay?

108 Joo-LiZ  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 7:58:59pm

re: #16 Cato the Elder

At least when Hitchens steals a title to pun on, it makes sense.

Unlike the unspeakable Michael Moore and "Fahrenheit 9/11". I'm still wondering WTF that means.

Do you actually not know what it's from?

Fahrenheit 451, the temperature at which books burn, Ray Bradbury book on the dangers of censorship.

109 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 7:59:05pm

re: #98 SteveMcG

If you're wishy-washy, doesn't that make you agnostic?

I wouldn't claim to know.
/

110 Killgore Trout  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 7:59:21pm

re: #64 Dr. Shalit

Killgore Trout -

Deportation of parents who take their child with them does NOT preclude the citizenship claim of the child upon majority. The 14th Amendment guarantees that. -S-

The comments at Hot Air (And probably most "conservative" sites) reveal the motivation to violate the Constitution....


Birthright citizenship does need to end.

Enoxo on June 11, 2010 at 9:36 PM


............


I got to agree… it’s birthright citizenship, not parenthood citizenship….

ninjapirate on June 11, 2010 at 9:38 PM


........


Get deported! And take the kids with you!!!

too harsh?……

get over it! And Go!!!

Vntnrse on June 11, 2010 at 9:41 PM


These are not people concerned with the Constitution ramifications of the law. They want brown people out. They are probably not going to win.

111 Cato the Elder  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 7:59:53pm

re: #108 Joo-LiZ

Do you actually not know what it's from?

Fahrenheit 451, the temperature at which books burn, Ray Bradbury book on the dangers of censorship.

Yes. I read that book when I was twelve.

Moore's ripoff of the title still makes no fucking sense.

112 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 8:00:10pm

re: #106 Cato the Elder

This is why Protestants can't have nice things.

113 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 8:00:13pm

re: #101 Slumbering Behemoth

Ah, you seem to be on top of the proper info. With that in mind, can you help me figure out wtf is wrong with my car. Damnit!

What kind of car. What's the problem?
Evening Honcos.

114 Varek Raith  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 8:00:44pm

re: #112 Slumbering Behemoth

This is why Protestants can't have nice things.

Because of Cato?
Bad Cato, bad.

115 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 8:00:58pm

re: #104 Varek Raith

Hit it with a wrench or something.

I am looking for an auto mechanic's solution to the problem, not an engineer's.

116 Varek Raith  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 8:01:36pm

re: #115 Slumbering Behemoth

I am looking for an auto mechanic's solution to the problem, not an engineer's.

Ah, then reverse the polarity of the phased inducer array.

117 SteveMcG  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 8:01:51pm

re: #115 Slumbering Behemoth

I am looking for an auto mechanic's solution to the problem, not an engineer's.

Well in that case, how much you got?

118 Racer X  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 8:02:49pm
119 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 8:03:36pm

re: #113 Cannadian Club Akbar

Honda. Intermittent stalls and non-starts. I've already ruled out the fuel filter.

120 sattv4u2  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 8:03:47pm

re: #110 Killgore Trout

These are not people concerned with the Constitution ramifications of the law. They want brown people THAT ARE HERE ILLEGALLY out. They are probably not going to win.

ftfy ,, but you knew that ,, didn't you!

121 SteveMcG  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 8:03:55pm

re: #118 Racer X

Image: pZOlG.jpg

I'd rather trust dumb luck.

122 researchok  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 8:03:57pm

re: #111 Cato the Elder

Yes. I read that book when I was twelve.

Moore's ripoff of the title still makes no fucking sense.

It makes perfect sense.

451 is the number of dozens of donuts he consumes in a year.

123 Killgore Trout  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 8:04:05pm

Support the 1st amendment selectively, the second amendment blindly, ignore the 14th, pick and chose. Cafeteria Catholics Americans.

124 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 8:04:08pm

re: #119 Slumbering Behemoth

Honda. Intermittent stalls and non-starts. I've already ruled out the fuel filter.

Fuel injected?

125 Ojoe  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 8:04:37pm

Tonight's Towercam sunset. Soft; and the clouds are too low to flow through the gap. San Gabriel Mountains if California, Pacific time zone.

"Paradise is all around us and we do not understand."

— Thomas Merton, the guy in the avatar there.

126 sattv4u2  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 8:04:41pm

re: #101 Slumbering Behemoth

Ah, you seem to be on top of the proper info. With that in mind, can you help me figure out wtf is wrong with my car. Damnit!

Check the nut behind the wheel!!
//

127 Varek Raith  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 8:04:55pm

re: #121 SteveMcG

I'd rather trust dumb luck.

There's no such thing as luck.
:P

128 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 8:05:14pm

re: #119 Slumbering Behemoth

Honda. Intermittent stalls and non-starts. I've already ruled out the fuel filter.

Mass air flow sensor, maybe? I seem to remember similar issues with my old 240DL and it was the mass air flow sensor.

129 Ojoe  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 8:05:44pm

re: #123 Killgore Trout

Good thing Prohibition cancels itself out.

130 SteveMcG  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 8:05:56pm

re: #127 Varek Raith

There's no such thing as luck.
:P

Even reason has its limits.

131 Racer X  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 8:06:08pm

Difference Between, Grandfathers and Grandmothers

This is funny even if you are not a grandparent. Have you ever wondered what the difference between Grandmothers and Grandfathers is? Well here it is:

Every Sunday morning my friend would take his 7-year old granddaughter out for a drive for some bonding time. One particular Sunday however, he had a bad cold and really didn't feel like being up at all. Luckily, his wife came to the rescue and said that she would take their granddaughter out.

When they returned, the little girl anxiously ran upstairs to see her Grandfather.

'Well, did you enjoy your ride with grandma?'

'Oh yes, Popa' the girl replied, 'and do you know what? We didn't see a single idiot, dumb bastard, dip shit, jack ass, or horse's ass anywhere we went today!'

Almost brings a tear to your eye, doesn't it?

132 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 8:06:24pm

re: #108 Joo-LiZ

Do you actually not know what it's from?

Fahrenheit 451, the temperature at which books burn, Ray Bradbury book on the dangers of censorship.

I think he know where it's from, he just doesn't know what it's supposed to mean as the title of the documentary.

In my student teaching semester I gave a final test on Fahrenheit 451. It was an open-book test. I threw in two 'relax' questions at the beginning of the test.

1. What is the name of the author of Fahrenheit 451?

2. At what temperature do books burn?

Both pieces of information are readily available on the cover of the paperback of this novel, which we had been reading in class for six weeks.

Over half the class could not manage to answer both of these questions correctly.

I'm kind of glad I didn't go right into teaching out of college. At twenty-two, this might have killed me. At thirty, I drank a bottle of chardonnay, and wondered what I had gotten myself into.

133 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 8:06:33pm

re: #124 Cannadian Club Akbar

Fuel injected?

How old would a Honda have to be to not be FI? :D

134 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 8:06:34pm

SB, you can also take it to pep boys and ask them to put their computer on it. They're usually good about that.

135 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 8:06:55pm

re: #117 SteveMcG

Well in that case, how much you got?

I got a fair amount of tools, a dwindling level of patience, one or two sore knuckles, and little to no money.

re: #118 Racer X

Image: pZOlG.jpg

I am not sure what message that motorist is trying to convey. Perhaps if they were a little more blunt and straight forward it might come through more clearly.

136 SteveMcG  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 8:07:16pm

re: #119 Slumbering Behemoth

Honda. Intermittent stalls and non-starts. I've already ruled out the fuel filter.

What's the condition of the ignition wires. They often get ignored now that cars don't need tune-ups.

137 tradewind  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 8:07:30pm

re: #2 Killgore Trout
Bet there's a grotesque portrait tucked away in some dusty attic...../

138 Joo-LiZ  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 8:08:21pm

re: #132 SanFranciscoZionist

I think he know where it's from, he just doesn't know what it's supposed to mean as the title of the documentary.

In my student teaching semester I gave a final test on Fahrenheit 451. It was an open-book test. I threw in two 'relax' questions at the beginning of the test.

1. What is the name of the author of Fahrenheit 451?

2. At what temperature do books burn?

Both pieces of information are readily available on the cover of the paperback of this novel, which we had been reading in class for six weeks.

Over half the class could not manage to answer both of these questions correctly.

I'm kind of glad I didn't go right into teaching out of college. At twenty-two, this might have killed me. At thirty, I drank a bottle of chardonnay, and wondered what I had gotten myself into.

That's a pretty depressing story.

I think Moore's logic was this:
Fahrenheit 451 = dystopian novel.
Fahrenheit 9/11 = America is Moore's dystopia.

I'm still not quite sure why he isn't in Cuba.

139 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 8:08:22pm

re: #124 Cannadian Club Akbar

Yes sir.

140 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 8:08:53pm

re: #132 SanFranciscoZionist

I do enjoy all of your posts!

141 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 8:09:18pm

re: #123 Killgore Trout

How are the tadpoles?
Surviving?

142 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 8:09:42pm

re: #140 Floral Giraffe

I do enjoy all of your posts!

BTW, I have a job for the fall everyone! Rejoice!

143 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 8:09:44pm

re: #139 Slumbering Behemoth

Yes sir.

Me thinking injectors. When a sensor goes, you're fucked. But like I said, take it to pep boys or napa, or a reasonable garage.

144 Varek Raith  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 8:09:55pm

re: #140 Floral Giraffe

I do enjoy all of your posts!

Image: giraffe01.jpg

145 Joo-LiZ  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 8:10:06pm

re: #140 Floral Giraffe

I do enjoy all of your posts!

Me too!

146 sattv4u2  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 8:10:18pm

re: #138 Joo-LiZ

That's a pretty depressing story.

I think Moore's logic was this:
Fahrenheit 451 = dystopian novel.
Fahrenheit 9/11 = America is Moore's dystopia.

I'm still not quite sure why he isn't in Cuba.

he wants to keep his own stuff!

147 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 8:11:25pm

re: #142 SanFranciscoZionist

BTW, I have a job for the fall everyone! Rejoice!


Who's awesome?

148 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 8:11:26pm

re: #142 SanFranciscoZionist

BTW, I have a job for the fall everyone! Rejoice!

CONGRATULATIONS!
I hope it is a GOOD job.
(And one that will let you post a lot!)

149 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 8:11:35pm

re: #134 Cannadian Club Akbar

SB, you can also take it to pep boys and ask them to put their computer on it. They're usually good about that.

I'd be all over that, if only the bitch would reliably start and not stall. :(

150 Joo-LiZ  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 8:12:00pm

re: #142 SanFranciscoZionist

BTW, I have a job for the fall everyone! Rejoice!

Mazel Tov!

151 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 8:12:27pm

re: #144 Varek Raith

I'm not quite sure how to take that one...
*smack*

152 Ojoe  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 8:12:36pm

re: #16 Cato the Elder

Unlike the unspeakable Michael Moore and "Fahrenheit 9/11". I'm still wondering WTF that means.

It means a cold temperature: 9˚÷ 11˚, or .8181˚ F.

A good temperature for ice cream.

153 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 8:13:07pm

re: #149 Slumbering Behemoth

I'd be all over that, if only the bitch would reliably start and not stall. :(

Check your local Craig's List for a mobile mechanic. Make sure he has a computer for diagnostics. Should be able to get a good answer reasonably priced.

154 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 8:14:02pm

re: #136 SteveMcG

What's the condition of the ignition wires. They often get ignored now that cars don't need tune-ups.

Those are good. The next thing I plan on doing is checking fuel pressure, once I get a loaner gauge for the local auto parts store.

re: #128 WindUpBird

Mass air flow sensor, maybe? I seem to remember similar issues with my old 240DL and it was the mass air flow sensor.

Noted, and thanks. I'll try testing that tomorrow.

155 Varek Raith  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 8:14:05pm

re: #151 Floral Giraffe

I'm not quite sure how to take that one...
*smack*

;)

156 Charles Johnson  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 8:14:53pm

EyeTV HD rocks. With just a little bit of monkeying around, I now have all my HD channels being displayed on my Apple monitor, recordable, time-shiftable, etc.

Excellent video. Only complaint -- I wish the EyeTV HD box had an optical audio input for surround sound. But the HD video signal is beautiful on my 30" monitor.

157 Ojoe  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 8:14:56pm

re: #153 Cannadian Club Akbar

O for the era of plugs, points and condensers.

And wind wings.

And floor mounted dimmer switches.

and two part tail gates on station wagons.

and radios with a knob connected to a variable condenser.

158 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 8:14:57pm

SB, is it throwing any codes?

159 tradewind  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 8:15:13pm

re: #152 Ojoe
That was a typo. It's actually
'Fear'nhype 9-11'.

160 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 8:15:43pm

re: #157 Ojoe

I changed a carb on a 1968 Camaro at a red light once.

161 Joo-LiZ  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 8:15:48pm

re: #156 Charles

EyeTV HD rocks. With just a little bit of monkeying around, I now have all my HD channels being displayed on my Apple monitor, recordable, time-shiftable, etc.

Excellent video. Only complaint -- I wish the EyeTV HD box had an optical audio input for surround sound. But the HD video signal is beautiful on my 30" monitor.

Now you're just showing off!!!

/ *Jealous*

162 tradewind  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 8:16:12pm

re: #156 Charles
Can you plug that in to a regular HD set.... say, a 50-incher?

163 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 8:16:18pm

re: #123 Killgore Trout

Support the 1st amendment selectively, the second amendment blindly, ignore the 14th, pick and chose. Cafeteria Catholics Americans.

re: #132 SanFranciscoZionist

I think he know where it's from, he just doesn't know what it's supposed to mean as the title of the documentary.

In my student teaching semester I gave a final test on Fahrenheit 451. It was an open-book test. I threw in two 'relax' questions at the beginning of the test.

1. What is the name of the author of Fahrenheit 451?

2. At what temperature do books burn?

Both pieces of information are readily available on the cover of the paperback of this novel, which we had been reading in class for six weeks.

Over half the class could not manage to answer both of these questions correctly.

I'm kind of glad I didn't go right into teaching out of college. At twenty-two, this might have killed me. At thirty, I drank a bottle of chardonnay, and wondered what I had gotten myself into.

Geeze, what a bunch of buffoons. I'd like to say that things went better for my teachers when I was in school. but I'd be lying. When the English class I was in read Heart of Darkness, almost all the questions and thinking responses were from only 5 people out of more than 20 students. I was one of the five and actually was allowed to try to move things forward at times when the teacher had to step out. That was never fun. since some goofballs always decided they wanted to talk about something non-class related. God love you, SFZ, I don't know how you put up with morons like that for years on end.

164 SteveMcG  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 8:16:37pm

re: #157 Ojoe

I miss the little triangular vent on the front door.

165 Ojoe  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 8:16:50pm

If you go back far enough, cars had spark advance levers on the steering wheel.

Lights were gas & would not run the battery down.

The starter was your arm, if you were too tired to drive, the car wouldn't start, the first safety interlock.

166 Ojoe  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 8:17:42pm

re: #160 Cannadian Club Akbar

I would clean out the idle jet on my Fiat 850 at a red light.

167 Ojoe  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 8:18:12pm

re: #164 SteveMcG

Yes, that's the wind wing. I miss them terribly.

168 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 8:18:47pm

re: #167 Ojoe

Yes, that's the wind wing. I miss them terribly.

Very important in Florida during a rainstorm.

169 SteveMcG  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 8:19:37pm

re: #167 Ojoe

I had a car that burned oil, but if I ran the heater, I guess it gave a little extra cooling and it didn't burn too much. I ran the heater year round and that wind wing was invaluable.

170 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 8:19:47pm

re: #143 Cannadian Club Akbar

Me thinking injectors. When a sensor goes, you're fucked. But like I said, take it to pep boys or napa, or a reasonable garage.

Meh, I've replaced sensors on other cars before. It's the "figuring out which ones to test" part that trips up a novice like me.

re: #153 Cannadian Club Akbar

Check your local Craig's List for a mobile mechanic. Make sure he has a computer for diagnostics. Should be able to get a good answer reasonably priced.

I replaced a half-axle and CV joint assembly a little while ago for the first time, a project that I would normally be greatly afraid of doing for fucking it up. My point? I don't even have the money/income to pay a reasonably priced mechanic for anything. Kinda on my own here.

Thank you for the advice, though.

171 Charles Johnson  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 8:20:16pm

re: #162 tradewind

Can you plug that in to a regular HD set... say, a 50-incher?

I can export videos to Apple TV and watch them on my 47" HDTV.

172 Ojoe  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 8:20:29pm

re: #168 Cannadian Club Akbar

Very important in Florida during a rainstorm.

Now if you want a little bit of air, it blows across the top of your head and gives you a headache.

173 Reginald Perrin  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 8:20:38pm

re: #157 Ojoe

O for the era of plugs, points and condensers.

And wind wings.

And floor mounted dimmer switches.

and two part tail gates on station wagons.

and radios with a knob connected to a variable condenser.

Back seats that were big enough to make looking for a dark secluded spot to park worthwhile.

174 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 8:21:11pm

re: #170 Slumbering Behemoth

Also, check the web for people who have your kind of car. Worked for my friend. Good luck!!

175 SteveMcG  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 8:21:50pm

re: #173 Reginald Perrin

Back seats that were big enough to make looking for a dark secluded spot to park worthwhile.

Geez, we are gettin' old. How'd we forget that?

176 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 8:22:13pm

re: #173 Reginald Perrin

Back seats that were big enough to make looking for a dark secluded spot to park worthwhile.

And you could fit 8 bodies in the trunk if you cut them up right.
///

178 Cato the Elder  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 8:23:13pm

re: #98 SteveMcG

If you're wishy-washy, doesn't that make you agnostic?

Just an agno-stick.

179 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 8:24:47pm

re: #158 Cannadian Club Akbar

SB, is it throwing any codes?

I tried that, and the result was that the check engine light stayed on for a bit only once. I can't tell if that is flashing a code, or just the normal way it works.

According to what I've find on the internet, a single, long flash would mean a "10", which is the Intake Air Temp. sensor. However that tests within proper voltage and resistance specs.

180 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 8:26:10pm

re: #179 Slumbering Behemoth

I tried that, and the result was that the check engine light stayed on for a bit only once. I can't tell if that is flashing a code, or just the normal way it works.

According to what I've find on the internet, a single, long flash would mean a "10", which is the Intake Air Temp. sensor. However that tests within proper voltage and resistance specs.

Sounds like WUB was right. Start there if it isn't to much.

181 avanti  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 8:26:14pm

re: #156 Charles

EyeTV HD rocks. With just a little bit of monkeying around, I now have all my HD channels being displayed on my Apple monitor, recordable, time-shiftable, etc.

Excellent video. Only complaint -- I wish the EyeTV HD box had an optical audio input for surround sound. But the HD video signal is beautiful on my 30" monitor.

I have a Slingbox, and I love it. It allows me access my DVR/satellite on any computer, anywhere I have the net. I even watch in my car when a friend is driving. I love my magic gadgets.

182 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 8:28:08pm

re: #174 Cannadian Club Akbar

Also, check the web for people who have your kind of car. Worked for my friend. Good luck!!

I've done that. It's hit and miss sometimes with interweb searches. But I have turned up a long list of things it could be. It's getting spark, so I am thinking fuel.

I'm gonna test fuel pressure next. Another first for me.

183 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 8:29:04pm

re: #182 Slumbering Behemoth

I've done that. It's hit and miss sometimes with interweb searches. But I have turned up a long list of things it could be. It's getting spark, so I am thinking fuel.

I'm gonna test fuel pressure next. Another first for me.

Now I'm thinking fuel pump.

184 Racer X  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 8:30:44pm

Charles, ever since I upgraded to Safari 5 a few days ago I have been getting errors on LGF. I get a message saying I am logged out; dings indicators go grey. I reload the page and I'm back in.

Just me?

185 William Barnett-Lewis  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 8:30:53pm

re: #138 Joo-LiZ

That's a pretty depressing story.

I think Moore's logic was this:
Fahrenheit 451 = dystopian novel.
Fahrenheit 9/11 = America is Moore's dystopia.

I'm still not quite sure why he isn't in Cuba.

Because, in his own way, he does still believe in America? I don't agree with him much, and I expect you do even less so, but he does have a rather mid-western utopian streak to him. Being a leftie I've seen lots like him & most are worse. You may disagree with him but he honestly believes that what he wants is a better America. Not a Cuba. Take that as you will.

William

186 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 8:32:24pm

re: #183 Cannadian Club Akbar

Now I'm thinking fuel pump.

I take that back.

187 reine.de.tout  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 8:32:32pm

re: #184 Racer X

Charles, ever since I upgraded to Safari 5 a few days ago I have been getting errors on LGF. I get a message saying I am logged out; dings indicators go grey. I reload the page and I'm back in.

Just me?

I don't get a message, but I my indicators disappear or go gray, and i do the same thing - I have to reload and I'm back in bizness.

188 tradewind  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 8:33:01pm

re: #184 Racer X
Not LGF per se, but my macbook's running a tad off and doing some strange things since I did the safari update, too. Grr.

189 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 8:33:37pm

re: #173 Reginald Perrin

Back seats that were big enough to make looking for a dark secluded spot to park worthwhile.

Sounds like my kind of fun!

190 reine.de.tout  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 8:34:27pm

re: #189 Floral Giraffe

Sounds like my kind of fun!

I remember those days.

191 Varek Raith  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 8:34:49pm

re: #190 reine.de.tout

I remember those days.

!
.
.
.
.
/

192 tradewind  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 8:35:12pm

re: #185 wlewisiii
Any space that Michael Moore inhabits becomes dystopic.

193 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 8:35:15pm

re: #183 Cannadian Club Akbar

Now I'm thinking fuel pump.

Could be. I suppose I'll find out when I test the fuel pressure.

But enough about my car troubles, how about some comedy?

Ralph Macchio's "Wax On, Fuck Off". *Language Warning*

Thanks to everyone for their input on my car problems, BTW.

194 William Barnett-Lewis  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 8:35:50pm

re: #184 Racer X

Charles, ever since I upgraded to Safari 5 a few days ago I have been getting errors on LGF. I get a message saying I am logged out; dings indicators go grey. I reload the page and I'm back in.

Just me?

I've been having those issues in Firefox (3.5.9 currently) for months on my macbook.

William

195 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 8:36:17pm

re: #186 Cannadian Club Akbar

I take that back.

Oh crap. Why?

196 Gus  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 8:36:55pm

re: #186 Cannadian Club Akbar

I take that back.

Does this happen under certain temperatures?

197 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 8:37:34pm

re: #190 reine.de.tout

Hope you are well?
Kindest regards.
Running off to bed, now.

198 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 8:38:21pm

re: #192 tradewind

Any space that Michael Moore inhabits becomes dystopic.

Well that much asshole does tend to make things pretty bad.

199 reine.de.tout  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 8:40:32pm

re: #197 Floral Giraffe

Hope you are well?
Kindest regards.
Running off to bed, now.

Yes! Doing well, thanks, and job situation for the Roi is secure.
Yay!

200 reine.de.tout  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 8:41:18pm

re: #191 Varek Raith

!
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.
.
/

Lawdamercy, you're gonna have to tell me what all of that is supposed to mean!

201 tradewind  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 8:41:39pm

Even POTUS is not immune
To the horror that is Autotune...

202 Ojoe  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 8:41:54pm
203 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 8:42:40pm

re: #199 reine.de.tout

Yes! Doing well, thanks, and job situation for the Roi is secure.
Yay!

Good news! Glad to hear it!
*smooch*

204 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 8:43:44pm

re: #195 Slumbering Behemoth

Oh crap. Why?

I would think it would just go. Test your pressure. Fuck. I got the blue screen of death, then I fired it back up and was right here?!!!? Worm hole?

205 Gus  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 8:45:19pm

re: #86 Slumbering Behemoth

I don't think Windsagio is an atheist. Did I miss a comment where he claimed such?

Nope. He's not.

206 reine.de.tout  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 8:45:47pm

re: #204 Cannadian Club Akbar

I would think it would just go. Test your pressure. Fuck. I got the blue screen of death, then I fired it back up and was right here?!!!? Worm hole?

If you're using firefox, that would happen to me sometimes too.
I think it has something to do with bookmarks or favorites. But I could never figure how to get it to go away, without closing and reopening firefox.
So I switched.

207 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 8:47:09pm

re: #206 reine.de.tout

I am on FF but never had this happen. Wait, am I in a alternate universe? Like on Fringe? (my favorite show)

208 Gus  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 8:47:16pm

re: #119 Slumbering Behemoth

Honda. Intermittent stalls and non-starts. I've already ruled out the fuel filter.

Hey. Does this happen under different weather conditions? Warm? Cold?

209 Racer X  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 8:48:56pm
210 tradewind  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 8:49:12pm

re: #207 Cannadian Club Akbar
I gave up on Fringe last year.... has it gotten good again?

211 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 8:49:22pm

re: #196 Gus 802

Does this happen under certain temperatures?

That's the thing that has me perplexed. Here's the chain of events:

Last week I started the car and let it idle for 10-15 mins., then drove about two blocks when it stalled, and would not start again. This is at normal operating temp., neither cold nor overheating.

Walk back the next day, check wires and dist. cap, all fine. Still won't start. Get it towed home.

Sits for a few days, then I replace the fuel filter. It starts fine, I shut it off. Ten minutes later I drive it to two locations, shut it off, starts fine at both locations, normal operating temp. It then stalls again, and won't start. I give it about three hours, it starts fine and I barely get it into my garage before it stalls again after traveling only a few blocks. Now it refuses to start again.

Coolant level is fine, no overheating.

212 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 8:49:35pm

re: #210 tradewind

I gave up on Fringe last year... has it gotten good again?

Yes.

213 Gus  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 8:49:37pm

What in the world? A Greene and Greene house in LA going for $775,000.

[Link: www.latimes.com...]

I'm surprised it's still for sale.

214 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 8:50:24pm

re: #211 Slumbering Behemoth

Bad gas.

215 reine.de.tout  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 8:50:59pm

re: #211 Slumbering Behemoth

That's the thing that has me perplexed. Here's the chain of events:

Last week I started the car and let it idle for 10-15 mins., then drove about two blocks when it stalled, and would not start again. This is at normal operating temp., neither cold nor overheating.

Walk back the next day, check wires and dist. cap, all fine. Still won't start. Get it towed home.

Sits for a few days, then I replace the fuel filter. It starts fine, I shut it off. Ten minutes later I drive it to two locations, shut it off, starts fine at both locations, normal operating temp. It then stalls again, and won't start. I give it about three hours, it starts fine and I barely get it into my garage before it stalls again after traveling only a few blocks. Now it refuses to start again.

Coolant level is fine, no overheating.

Have you taken it in to a mechanic?

216 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 8:52:02pm

SB. Drain the tank. Put gas in glass jar. Look at the color.

217 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 8:53:25pm

re: #209 Racer X

Who's On First: The Lost Version (NSFW Uncensored cut)


[Video]Totally NSFW.

This has to be my all time favorite remakes of the "Who's On First" bit. Hilarious.

218 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 8:55:45pm

re: #214 Cannadian Club Akbar

First of all, that's being a bit personal, don't you think? Second of all, I can't conceive of how my digestive processes could possibly affect my car's performance.
/

219 Racer X  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 8:56:07pm

re: #211 Slumbering Behemoth

I had a car do the exact same thing once - sounds like a clogged fuel filter. I had scissors and a piece of copper tubing with me. Cut out the in-line fuel filter and placed a piece of copper tubing in as a splice. Worked good enough to get me to a auto parts store.

220 freetoken  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 8:56:12pm

re: #184 Racer X

Charles, ever since I upgraded to Safari 5 a few days ago I have been getting errors on LGF. I get a message saying I am logged out; dings indicators go grey. I reload the page and I'm back in.

Just me?

I get those problems from time to time with Safari 4.0.5 .

221 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 8:56:38pm

re: #215 reine.de.tout

Have you taken it in to a mechanic?

Can't afford that. :(

This is gonna have to be 100% DIY.

222 Gus  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 8:56:39pm

re: #211 Slumbering Behemoth

That's the thing that has me perplexed. Here's the chain of events:

Last week I started the car and let it idle for 10-15 mins., then drove about two blocks when it stalled, and would not start again. This is at normal operating temp., neither cold nor overheating.

Walk back the next day, check wires and dist. cap, all fine. Still won't start. Get it towed home.

Sits for a few days, then I replace the fuel filter. It starts fine, I shut it off. Ten minutes later I drive it to two locations, shut it off, starts fine at both locations, normal operating temp. It then stalls again, and won't start. I give it about three hours, it starts fine and I barely get it into my garage before it stalls again after traveling only a few blocks. Now it refuses to start again.

Coolant level is fine, no overheating.

Jeez. You know it could only be a stab in the dark from here. Has it been hotter where you live lately?

223 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 8:56:46pm

re: #219 Racer X

Fuel filter is ruled out.

224 Racer X  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 8:57:23pm

re: #221 Slumbering Behemoth


I know you replaced the fuel filter already - is it possible there is more debris somewhere in the line?

225 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 8:58:19pm

re: #224 Racer X

I know you replaced the fuel filter already - is it possible there is more debris somewhere in the line?

That's one of the reasons I said drain the tank.

226 Gus  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 8:58:55pm

re: #221 Slumbering Behemoth

Can't afford that. :(

This is gonna have to be 100% DIY.

OK. Try the coolant temperature sensor. ECT

227 tradewind  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 8:58:55pm

re: #213 Gus 802
The real estate mantra: Location, Location, Location. It's in West Adams. A little rough.

228 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 8:59:21pm

re: #225 Cannadian Club Akbar

That's one of the reasons I said drain the tank.

Put pressured air in the line leading from the tank and push the crap thought.

229 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 9:00:53pm

re: #227 tradewind

The real estate mantra: Location, Location, Location. It's in West Adams. A little rough.

That plus the fall of real estate prices in general these last two years.

230 Racer X  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 9:01:11pm

I think I know why the refs backed off on the foul calls against Boston last night.

Paul Pierce Punches Referee in the face + Slow Motion + HD

231 Gus  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 9:01:17pm

re: #227 tradewind

The real estate mantra: Location, Location, Location. It's in West Adams. A little rough.

Ah. A Greene and Greene house is a treasure.

232 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 9:02:06pm

re: #229 Dark_Falcon

That plus the fall of real estate prices in general these last two years.

And then there is this.

234 tradewind  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 9:03:11pm

re: #229 Dark_Falcon
Scrolling through the article, the answer becomes even more clear. Because of the house's historical status, new owners can't pick their own paint colors even for the interior, and must leave this sink intact: So much for your kitchen rehab..../
Image: 54232664.jpg

235 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 9:04:39pm

re: #222 Gus 802

Jeez. You know it could only be a stab in the dark from here. Has it been hotter where you live lately?

No, it's only been in the mid 80s here lately, which is unseasonably cool for this area at this time of year.

P.S., I just wanna say how awesome and helpful the Lizard community is. If you've seen any of the more bizarre "Yahoo Answers" results, you'd know that asking strangers for advice on the interwebs is basically an open invitation to be trolled or mocked. Not so with folks here.

Great bunch of people y'all are. We can argue like drunken bastards with each other when it comes to subjects like politics or religion, but when it comes to helping folks out with advice, most of use here get non-partisan and helpful real quick.

Makes me both proud and humbled to be a member here.

236 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 9:05:49pm

re: #235 Slumbering Behemoth

No, it's only been in the mid 80s here lately, which is unseasonably cool for this area at this time of year.

P.S., I just wanna say how awesome and helpful the Lizard community is. If you've seen any of the more bizarre "Yahoo Answers" results, you'd know that asking strangers for advice on the interwebs is basically an open invitation to be trolled or mocked. Not so with folks here.

Great bunch of people y'all are. We can argue like drunken bastards with each other when it comes to subjects like politics or religion, but when it comes to helping folks out with advice, most of use here get non-partisan and helpful real quick.

Makes me both proud and humbled to be a member here.

Fuck you!!
///someone had to say it!!

237 prairiefire  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 9:06:23pm

So, who has read Hitch's new biography yet?

238 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 9:07:11pm

re: #234 tradewind

Scrolling through the article, the answer becomes even more clear. Because of the house's historical status, new owners can't pick their own paint colors even for the interior, and must leave this sink intact: So much for your kitchen rehab.../
Image: 54232664.jpg

Geeze but that's strict. Chicago generally allows some repairs and replacements, I guess LA has different rules.

239 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 9:07:14pm

re: #237 prairiefire

So, who has read Hitch's new biography yet?

I thought you were gonna. Aw, geez.
/

240 prairiefire  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 9:07:52pm

re: #233 Ojoe

The clouds over LA start to light up from all the lights on the ground below them. Towercam.

Back tomorrow.

We had the twinkly lights of LA a couple of nights ago.

241 jc717  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 9:08:05pm

Little known fact, but Hitchens loves dirty limericks and has hundreds, maybe thousands memorized. I sat in on an interview that some friends did with him a few years ago, and he spent the final 5 minutes telling dirty limericks.

242 prairiefire  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 9:08:40pm

I just want to know if he really had gay sex in college.

243 tradewind  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 9:09:10pm

re: #231 Gus 802
I understand the architectural significance, but there's a lot of bagggage with that house. Also, Craftsman isn't for everyone.
Maybe after the article has been seen, it'll sell quickly.

244 Gus  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 9:09:22pm

re: #235 Slumbering Behemoth

No, it's only been in the mid 80s here lately, which is unseasonably cool for this area at this time of year.

P.S., I just wanna say how awesome and helpful the Lizard community is. If you've seen any of the more bizarre "Yahoo Answers" results, you'd know that asking strangers for advice on the interwebs is basically an open invitation to be trolled or mocked. Not so with folks here.

Great bunch of people y'all are. We can argue like drunken bastards with each other when it comes to subjects like politics or religion, but when it comes to helping folks out with advice, most of use here get non-partisan and helpful real quick.

Makes me both proud and humbled to be a member here.

:)

You might want to try one of the car forums. More specifically like one that gets a lot of street racers. Try this site:

[Link: www.hondacarforum.com...]

245 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 9:09:24pm

re: #242 prairiefire

I just want to know if he really had gay sex in college.

For educational reasons, or for fantasy material?

;)

246 Racer X  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 9:09:38pm

re: #242 prairiefire

I just want to know if he really had gay sex in college.

Why?

247 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 9:10:04pm

re: #245 SanFranciscoZionist

For educational reasons, or for fantasy material?

;)

I thought it was an elective. My bad.

248 tradewind  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 9:10:10pm

re: #241 jc717
Why am I not surprised...../

249 sattv4u2  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 9:10:11pm

re: #245 SanFranciscoZionist

For educational reasons, or for fantasy material?

;)

neither

for a grade !!

//

250 Gus  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 9:11:01pm

re: #243 tradewind

I understand the architectural significance, but there's a lot of bagggage with that house. Also, Craftsman isn't for everyone.
Maybe after the article has been seen, it'll sell quickly.

Yeah. Someone with a lot of extra cash might pick it up. Kind of unusual that they won't allow you to replace the sink.

251 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 9:11:12pm

re: #244 Gus 802

Thanks bro, will do.

252 Cato the Elder  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 9:11:35pm

Comfortably numb.

Dedicated to all the hate-excusing assholes, right and left, wherever they may be.

The Torah says that evil entered the world not because of Adam and Eve, but because of the groundless hatred for which Cain slew Abel.

Groundless. Hatred.

Is hatred ever grounded?

No.

But if groundless hatred comes at your ass with tooth and nail and RPG and AK-47 and suicide bomb and SCUD missile, you are justified in defending yourself and yours against it, jusqu'au bout.

I think Israel does that, day after day. And yes, in my mind, Israel = the Jews.

253 Racer X  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 9:12:27pm

re: #251 Slumbering Behemoth

Click and Clack Brothers may be able to help you out. I'm looking around to see if any useful tips.

254 Varek Raith  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 9:12:54pm

re: #200 reine.de.tout

Lawdamercy, you're gonna have to tell me what all of that is supposed to mean!

Nothing NSFW, I assure you.

255 tradewind  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 9:13:19pm

re: #238 Dark_Falcon
That's probably a safe bet./
O/T: Just saw that another CA town is contemplating bankruptcy. How the heck does that work? ' The town's broke, just deal? '.... do they shut down all the city services?

256 prairiefire  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 9:13:22pm

re: #246 Racer X

Why?

I think it adds a dimension to someone who decides to do that. Could it really be as intrinsic a part of English school boy life?
I will admit it is speculation outside the quality of his intelligence.

257 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 9:13:30pm

re: #242 prairiefire

I just want to know if he really had gay sex in college.

Meh. All sex is "teh ghey". Just look at any given person's "Oh" face. (That one is Safe For Work).

258 tradewind  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 9:15:06pm

re: #250 Gus 802
And kind of Draconian.
I'm all for preserving the historic aspects of buildings, but this seems extreme. I'm sure they let them upgrade the electrical system to code, etc. What's the difference?

259 Racer X  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 9:15:20pm

re: #257 Slumbering Behemoth

Check this out.

260 Gus  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 9:15:36pm

re: #257 Slumbering Behemoth

Meh. All sex is "teh ghey". Just look at any given person's "Oh" face. (That one is Safe For Work).

Hey, it's "Captain Nixon."

261 tradewind  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 9:15:40pm

re: #253 Racer X
I was about to suggest Car Talk./

262 Racer X  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 9:15:59pm

re: #256 prairiefire

His sex life is none of my business.

263 prairiefire  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 9:16:54pm

re: #199 reine.de.tout

Yes! Doing well, thanks, and job situation for the Roi is secure.
Yay!

Very good news, La Reine.

264 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 9:16:55pm

re: #259 Racer X

Check this out.

Hey all. I just wanted to post that I found the issue, and repaired in myself.

The solution would seem like a fuel-pump relay...though there was no 'chugging'. In looking up what relays we could purchase to try, we found that there is no fuel-pump relay. However, there is a MAIN relay...which governs the fuel-pump AND the injectors. Hence, why when my car would stall...the engine would just suddenly be off. No power to the fuel-pump or the injection system...no run.

So...if you have a Honda Civic 1998 doing this whole stalling while driving with no chugging (e.g. engine just shuts off), consider checking the MAIN RELAY. The part was around $50 at O'Reilly's. I pulled the glove-box and the dash side panel, and replaced the relay myself.

Car runs like a charm now.

265 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 9:17:18pm

re: #255 tradewind

That's probably a safe bet./
O/T: Just saw that another CA town is contemplating bankruptcy. How the heck does that work? ' The town's broke, just deal? '... do they shut down all the city services?

No, towns have special part of the bankruptcy code called Chapter 9. Basically, California towns are contemplating bankruptcy as a way to get out of union contracts and pension obligations they can no longer afford.

266 sattv4u2  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 9:17:35pm

re: #255 tradewind

That's probably a safe bet./
O/T: Just saw that another CA town is contemplating bankruptcy. How the heck does that work? ' The town's broke, just deal? '... do they shut down all the city services?

Similar to a businesses chapter 13 bankruptcy
Means that the citys creditors can't harass them for the monies owed and the city has time to covert assets into cash and / or raise funds to pay off creditors

267 Four More Tears  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 9:18:27pm

re: #260 Gus 802

Hey, it's "Captain Nixon."

One of my favorite characters in BoB.

"Quit looking at me like that!"

268 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 9:19:33pm

re: #259 Racer X

re: #264 Cannadian Club Akbar

From Racer X link.

269 reine.de.tout  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 9:20:02pm
270 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 9:20:16pm

re: #253 Racer X

Click and Clack Brothers may be able to help you out. I'm looking around to see if any useful tips.

Someone else mentioned that upthread. I assumed it was some kind of inside/cultural joke I was not hip too. Thanks for the link.

Oh, and don't spend your time searching the web on my account, I can do that myself, and have done quite a bit already. I just figured I might get some different feedback from the machine head Lizards here.

271 Gus  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 9:20:19pm

re: #267 JasonA

One of my favorite characters in BoB.

"Quit looking at me like that!"

I know. After watching the series over and over again everytime I see Ron Livingston I want him to be Lewis Nixon.

Where's my Vat 69!

272 Mich-again  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 9:20:48pm

Speaking of "remodeling" we have a neighbor whom moved into the sub a few houses down from us last year. He removed all of the very nice landscaping that was already there (bushes, ground cover, ornamental trees..) and replaced every bit of it with hundreds of rose bushes of all colors. That wasn't enough room for his rose collection so there are about 50 more pots filling up half the driveway too. It looks so redneckish. Just dreadful. No neighborhood association here, so its anything goes. Dude, the Rose Bowl called, they want the float back. Oh sorry, thats your lawn.

Oh well. I know if I was the guy next door to him trying to sell his house right now I wouldn't be amused.

273 Four More Tears  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 9:21:46pm

re: #271 Gus 802

I know. After watching the series over and over again everytime I see Ron Livingston I want him to be Lewis Nixon.

Where's my Vat 69!

I loved the friendship between him and Winters. It felt real.

274 Gus  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 9:23:06pm

re: #273 JasonA

I loved the friendship between him and Winters. It felt real.

Band of Brothers Nixon & Winters Tribute

275 Cato the Elder  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 9:23:31pm

Tristram Shandy, Gentleman, says, the purpose of disputation is either to convince or to silence.

In the case of idiots, I am much in favor of the latter course.

276 tradewind  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 9:24:46pm

re: #237 prairiefire
Drink, Snark, Schmooze./

277 Racer X  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 9:25:01pm

re: #270 Slumbering Behemoth

Someone else mentioned that upthread. I assumed it was some kind of inside/cultural joke I was not hip too. Thanks for the link.

Oh, and don't spend your time searching the web on my account, I can do that myself, and have done quite a bit already. I just figured I might get some different feedback from the machine head Lizards here.

I used to listen to car talk every Saturday when I worked weekends. Those guys are the best. Check out some of their on-line shows.

278 tradewind  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 9:25:45pm

re: #265 Dark_Falcon
Ahh...the Hindsight Act./

279 Varek Raith  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 9:26:19pm

My silliness has made me tired.
Night!
:)

280 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 9:27:29pm

re: #257 Slumbering Behemoth

Meh. All sex is "teh ghey". Just look at any given person's "Oh" face. (That one is Safe For Work).

Heh, that Mr. Relm even has a Obama v. The Fly mix.

281 Four More Tears  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 9:28:04pm

re: #274 Gus 802

Okay, the Lord of the Rings music isn't working for me here. Nice video though.

I think bonding like that is what was missing from The Pacific. BoB had these two, Guarniere and Toye, Sam and Frodo... (oops).

282 Gus  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 9:28:58pm

re: #281 JasonA

Okay, the Lord of the Rings music isn't working for me here. Nice video though.

I think bonding like that is what was missing from The Pacific. BoB had these two, Guarniere and Toye, Sam and Frodo... (oops).

Yeah. I never saw Lord of the Rings so it didn't have any effect on me.

283 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 9:29:15pm

re: #264 Cannadian Club Akbar

I've seen a lot of that on the interwebs as well. Maybe I'll pull that sucker out and test it before I do the fuel pressure test.

You Lizards rule.

284 Bagua  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 9:30:25pm

re: #272 Mich-again

Speaking of "remodeling" we have a neighbor whom moved into the sub a few houses down from us last year. He removed all of the very nice landscaping that was already there (bushes, ground cover, ornamental trees..) and replaced every bit of it with hundreds of rose bushes of all colors. That wasn't enough room for his rose collection so there are about 50 more pots filling up half the driveway too. It looks so redneckish. Just dreadful. No neighborhood association here, so its anything goes. Dude, the Rose Bowl called, they want the float back. Oh sorry, thats your lawn.

Oh well. I know if I was the guy next door to him trying to sell his house right now I wouldn't be amused.

I never promised you a rose garden.

285 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 9:31:24pm

re: #284 Bagua

I never promised you a rose garden.

Which reminds me...

[Link: newton.acrossthebow.com...]

286 Racer X  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 9:31:27pm

re: #283 Slumbering Behemoth

I've seen a lot of that on the interwebs as well. Maybe I'll pull that sucker out and test it before I do the fuel pressure test.

You Lizards rule.

Sounds like the fuel pump is on the back. You may be able to take the fuel line off and have someone turn the ignition over a few times while checking to see how much fuel pumps out of the line (run it into a clean glass jar). Good luck!

287 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 9:31:34pm

re: #283 Slumbering Behemoth

Racer X posted it. I just found what I saw as credible. Blame him!!
//nice job Racer X. I have a good feeling about this.

288 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 9:31:37pm

re: #278 tradewind

Ahh...the Hindsight Act./

In that it works the same way as a personal or business bankruptcy. The town is admitting its in over its head and the court appoints a trustee who is allowed to make changes to put the town's finances on an even keel. In cases of towns or counties, this does indeed involve the canceling of union and pension contracts. Another reason this approach is used is that by having the trustee make the changes, the local officials avoid a direct confrontation with the unions.

289 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 9:32:23pm

re: #288 Dark_Falcon

As an aside... did you find a job yet?

290 tradewind  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 9:32:33pm

re: #272 Mich-again
Could be worse.
Could be the House of a Hundred Cats.
Neighbors finally called the cops.
Happy ending, though... Cat Person moved to the country, the house was sold to a fabulous designer who gutted it and rebuilt.

291 Mich-again  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 9:33:04pm

re: #270 Slumbering Behemoth
First law of troubleshooting: The more difficult the problem seems, the simpler its solution will be. Not that it makes you feel any better to hear that.

292 Racer X  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 9:33:05pm

re: #287 Cannadian Club Akbar

Racer X posted it. I just found what I saw as credible. Blame him!!
//nice job Racer X. I have a good feeling about this.

Yea me too - that was the closest thing to what SB was describing. I hate to see a Lizard have to walk down to the store for more beer.

293 Cannadian Club Akbar  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 9:34:56pm

Good job by all tonight. Go Team!! I'm out.:) (love this place)

294 Four More Tears  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 9:39:09pm

re: #293 Cannadian Club Akbar

Good job by all tonight. Go Team!! I'm out.:) (love this place)

Yeah, we did!

What did we do?

Did we score a goal in a World Cup match, because I hear that's really hard...

295 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 9:39:10pm

re: #289 Walter L. Newton

As an aside... did you find a job yet?

Still looking. Got a very promising retail lead this week that turned into a phone interview today. I'll know by next Thursday if it will lead to an in-person interview. I also have at least one in-person interview already lined up for next week and another one the week after. I've gotten offers, but I'm still looking for a good offer.

296 Four More Tears  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 9:40:07pm

re: #295 Dark_Falcon

Best of luck bro. I'm in the same boat. I have an interview on Monday that I hope goes well for a proofreading job.

297 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 9:40:30pm

re: #291 Mich-again

First law of troubleshooting: The more difficult the problem seems, the simpler its solution will be. Not that it makes you feel any better to hear that.

It doesn't, but there is much truth to that. I started with the fuel filter, which seemed the simplest solution to me. No go.

298 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 9:42:00pm

re: #293 Cannadian Club Akbar

Good job by all tonight. Go Team!! I'm out.:) (love this place)

Thanks for your advice bro. Same goes for everyone else here who weighed in. You guys/gals are awesome.

299 prairiefire  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 9:42:25pm

re: #92 Cato the Elder

Oooo, blood quartz.

300 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 9:45:06pm

Can I just say this: I miss the comprehensiveness and ease of use of the Chilton line of auto manuals. Haynes is for shit! I can't even find anything in the TOC nor index relating to the Main Relay.

301 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 9:46:04pm

re: #299 prairiefire

Oooo, blood quartz.

I think Cato means carnelian and turquoise... his "totem tie" I gave him had alternating carnelian and turquoise beads... I don't work with jade at all.

302 prairiefire  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 9:47:16pm

Hitchen's article on Mother Teresa in Vanity Fair magazine was one of the first outside criticisms of a Catholic charity figurehead.

303 Gus  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 9:47:52pm

re: #301 Walter L. Newton

I think Cato means carnelian and turquoise... his "totem tie" I gave him had alternating carnelian and turquoise beads... I don't work with jade at all.

You have your heater working? Going to hit 49 here tonight and 45 tomorrow night.

304 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 9:48:47pm

re: #303 Gus 802

You have your heater working? Going to hit 49 here tonight and 45 tomorrow night.

Bleah. It's still 68 where I am, and the sun's gone down.

305 Gus  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 9:49:45pm

re: #304 SanFranciscoZionist

Bleah. It's still 68 where I am, and the sun's gone down.

Warm day over there?

306 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 9:50:34pm

re: #304 SanFranciscoZionist

Bleah. It's still 68 where I am, and the sun's gone down.

It's 74 where I am at. I would prefer 68.

307 Mich-again  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 9:51:05pm

re: #297 Slumbering Behemoth

Actually, no gas in the tank would be the simplest possibility. (kind of like in the case of a TV that won't work, "uh, is it plugged in?")

But if its turning over and its sparking, it pretty much has to do with fuel delivery.

308 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 9:51:57pm

re: #304 SanFranciscoZionist

Bleah. It's still 68 where I am, and the sun's gone down.

It was in the high 80's today here, and sticky humid as well. A brutal day to be outside.

309 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 9:52:17pm

re: #305 Gus 802

Warm day over there?

It was. I napped a lot.

310 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 9:53:30pm

re: #303 Gus 802

You have your heater working? Going to hit 49 here tonight and 45 tomorrow night.

It's 48 already in Conifer... should be in the 30's before morning.

311 Four More Tears  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 9:53:48pm

re: #309 SanFranciscoZionist

It was. I napped a lot.

Are you still on the job hunt too, or have you had some luck?

312 prairiefire  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 9:54:23pm

re: #309 SanFranciscoZionist

It was. I napped a lot.


Hi! My boy now has 32 more Silly Bands than my daughter. She is spitting nails.

313 Gus  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 9:55:15pm

re: #310 Walter L. Newton

It's 48 already in Conifer... should be in the 30's before morning.

Had a tornado warning this afternoon. Didn't see anything. It's only June so this isn't really unusual.

314 Walter L. Newton  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 9:55:43pm

re: #313 Gus 802

Had a tornado warning this afternoon. Didn't see anything. It's only June so this isn't really unusual.

Par for the course.

315 Gus  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 10:00:48pm

re: #309 SanFranciscoZionist

It was. I napped a lot.

If it gets really hot you're going to have to start listening to Hank Williams, drink beer, and hang out on the veranda all night long.

/

316 Cato the Elder  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 10:00:56pm

re: #301 Walter L. Newton

I think Cato means carnelian and turquoise... his "totem tie" I gave him had alternating carnelian and turquoise beads... I don't work with jade at all.

See how fuckin' ignorant I am about some things?

Anyway, the totem tie is treasured and walks with me every day, through ice and fire.

And just so I know - having only now started out to watch "Lost" on Netflix - does the doggie come out OK?

317 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 10:04:13pm

re: #311 JasonA

Are you still on the job hunt too, or have you had some luck?

I got something! Something nice!!

318 tradewind  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 10:05:24pm

re: #316 Cato the Elder
I'm jealous of anyone who is just now starting to watch Lost. Do you really want to know about the Lab's well-being?... because I don't want to spoil anything for you.

319 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 10:05:42pm

re: #312 prairiefire

Hi! My boy now has 32 more Silly Bands than my daughter. She is spitting nails.

Oh dear.

320 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 10:06:33pm

re: #315 Gus 802

If it gets really hot you're going to have to start listening to Hank Williams, drink beer, and hang out on the veranda all night long.

/

I'd do that, except my husband hates country music passionately (this seems to have something to do with his mother and Patsy Cline, don't ask), and we don't have a veranda. We do have a deck, which might work in a pinch.

321 Cato the Elder  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 10:08:52pm

Another little tidbit from "Tristram Shandy":

"When a proposition can be taken in two senses——'tis a law in disputation, That the respondent may reply to which of the two he pleases, or finds most convenient to him..."

The which verily saith, that when I, Cato, see a double meaning in someone's argument, I may safely recur to the one that makes my opponent in debate most ridiculous.

Amen. Sit, sit. Amen.

322 William Barnett-Lewis  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 10:09:02pm

Way OT: However, to those who pushed me towards "This is My God" by Herman Wouk, I picked it up from the library today. It's teaching this christian a heck of a lot already about I want to learn about.

Thank you,

William

323 tradewind  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 10:10:20pm

re: #320 SanFranciscoZionist

my husband hates country music passionately (this seems to have something to do with his mother and Patsy Cline


That's crazy./

324 William Barnett-Lewis  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 10:13:48pm

re: #323 tradewind

That's crazy./

Updinged for the punishment.

William

325 Nimed  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 10:16:51pm

re: #258 tradewind

And kind of Draconian.

They will never rule Krynn!

326 tradewind  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 10:19:03pm

re: #324 wlewisiii
I just realized that someone who really hates country music may not appreciate the reference. Note to SFZ.... not questioning sanity of your DH.

327 tradewind  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 10:22:38pm

re: #316 Cato the Elder
Re the dog:
Rest assured that he's completely okay.

328 William Barnett-Lewis  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 10:23:43pm

G'night all. Gotta crash hard right now.

William

329 SanFranciscoZionist  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 10:25:28pm

re: #323 tradewind

That's crazy./

I know, but he just falls to pieces when he hears it.

330 Gus  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 10:26:51pm

re: #329 SanFranciscoZionist

I know, but he just falls to pieces when he hears it.

That might leave him walkin' after midnight to cool off.

331 tradewind  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 10:34:49pm

re: #329 SanFranciscoZionist
Well, some people just can't appreciate the nuance./
It is sometimes difficult to keep up with all the cowboys who are so unlucky that when they stumble out drunk in the rain to pick up their Mamas who're being released from prison, they're hit by a damned ole train......

332 ryannon  Fri, Jun 11, 2010 11:28:42pm

re: #317 SanFranciscoZionist

I got something! Something nice!!

Good for you!

333 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Sat, Jun 12, 2010 12:13:52am

Sorry, got caught up in a convo with the neighbor. Anyhow, I would just like to thank all the super helpful Lizards for their advice tonight. That's not the kind of decent treatment you can expect just anywhere on the intertoobs.

Thank you all, big time, and I apologize if my car troubles have dominated too much of this thread.

G'nite all.

334 ClaudeMonet  Sat, Jun 12, 2010 12:50:34am

re: #84 SteveMcG

I know too well,
I'm underneath your spell
Ad darling if you smell
Something burning it's my heart - hic, excuse me!

I ache for the touch of your lips, dear
But much more for the touch of your whips, dear
You can raise welts
Like nobody else
As we dance to the Masochism Tango...

great song, always gets a strange reaction at karaoke

re: #138 Joo-LiZ

That's a pretty depressing story.

I think Moore's logic was this:
Fahrenheit 451 = dystopian novel.
Fahrenheit 9/11 = America is Moore's dystopia.

I'm still not quite sure why he isn't in Cuba.

1. He couldn't get enough to food for that morbidly obese body;
2. He can make much more money here (remember, he hates capitalism when someone other than him is making the money);
3. There's not nearly as much attention paid to expatriates compared to stay-at-home America-denouncers; and
4. The Cuban government wouldn't put up with his bullshit.

re: #331 tradewind

Well, some people just can't appreciate the nuance./
It is sometimes difficult to keep up with all the cowboys who are so unlucky that when they stumble out drunk in the rain to pick up their Mamas who're being released from prison, they're hit by a damned ole train...

Great song ("You Never Even Called Me By My Name"), but there's nothing in it about his dog or an unfaithful ex-wife.

335 RogueOne  Sat, Jun 12, 2010 4:33:33am

I'm a big hitchens fan so I forced myself to watch the interview he did earlier this week with Chris Matthews. Watching this you can't help but notice how much better Jon Stewart does interviewing people on a comedy show than a life long politico does on a cable news channel.

336 avanti  Sat, Jun 12, 2010 7:55:45am

A recycled e-mail from 2007 is making the rounds on right wing blogs about illegal aliens as we speak. Snoop's just got it this time and is researching it for accuracy if anyone wants to help. I know much of it is BS, i.e. the stuff about S.S. benefits and them making the equivalent of $20-$30/ hour in benefits and more.

Here's the cached link from 2007 of the story that Snoop's is fact checking on it's second go round:

Teacher e-mail.


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