Reports of sanity breaking out in the Republican National Committee have apparently been greatly exaggerated: RNC to re-invite Breitbart to fundraiser.
“I don’t know Andrew Breitbart’s schedule for after Labor Day, but he certainly will be invited,” RNC Communications Director Doug Heye said, reiterating that the event “has been postponed,” rather than canceled as CNN reported.
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Cineaste Mon, Aug 2, 2010 11:06:37am |
RNC caves to wingnuts, FTW!
RNC = Really Nationalist Cowards?
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tnguitarist Mon, Aug 2, 2010 11:07:19am |
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Obdicut Mon, Aug 2, 2010 11:08:31am |
What the fuck.
Just invite Alex Jones and Buchanan too, and finish the deal.
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What, me worry? Mon, Aug 2, 2010 11:09:20am |
“…but he certainly will be invited.”
Of course he will.
Be sure to bring your “The NAACP is Racist” sign, Andrew!
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Cineaste Mon, Aug 2, 2010 11:09:54am |
BTW - really nice infographic detailing Beck’s inside dealing with the Goldline scam:
[Link: www.ritholtz.com…]
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Gus Mon, Aug 2, 2010 11:10:19am |
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tnguitarist Mon, Aug 2, 2010 11:12:53am |
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tnguitarist Mon, Aug 2, 2010 11:15:09am |
re: #7 Cineaste
BTW - really nice infographic detailing Beck’s inside dealing with the Goldline scam:
[Link: www.ritholtz.com…]
With all of their pre-whining, they set themselves up as victims. That way, when someone comes out with something on them, it looks as if that person is “out to get them”.
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Cato the Elder Mon, Aug 2, 2010 11:15:26am |
So, so far from disinviting B-beard because he’s a shite-mouthed provocateur, they’ve rescheduled the the meet-up so he can get a bigger audience.
Nice.
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Fozzie Bear Mon, Aug 2, 2010 11:15:36am |
It’s not like this should surprise anyone.
The RNC must serve their base, and their base is a bunch of racist backward fucks from the stone age. In other words, middle Americans.
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Gus Mon, Aug 2, 2010 11:15:37am |
So now the RNC has to major race baiters on their hands: Rush Limbaugh and Andrew Breitbart.
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Cineaste Mon, Aug 2, 2010 11:16:00am |
re: #11 tnguitarist
With all of their pre-whining, they set themselves up as victims. That way, when someone comes out with something on them, it looks as if that person is “out to get them”.
I know… out to get them with *facts* and stuff… how cruel… /
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Lidane Mon, Aug 2, 2010 11:17:27am |
Nothing the RNC does surprises me anymore. Just…lol Republicans. That’s all I can come up with.
re: #15 Gus 802
So now the RNC has to major race baiters on their hands: Rush Limbaugh and Andrew Breitbart.
Racist master baiters? ;)
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darthstar Mon, Aug 2, 2010 11:18:45am |
As I said earlier, the biggest problem the RNC has right now is finding a comfortable way of hanging the albatross that is Breitbart around their necks.
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darthstar Mon, Aug 2, 2010 11:20:19am |
re: #14 Fozzie Bear
It’s not like this should surprise anyone.
The RNC must serve their base, and their base is a bunch of racist backward fucks from the stone age. In other words, middle Americans.
I don’t think I’d go so far as to call middle Americans ‘racist backward fucks’ but I do think that the racist backward fucks probably consider themselves representative of middle America - and therein lies the problem for the Republicans. Most people don’t like that association.
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SpaceJesus Mon, Aug 2, 2010 11:20:26am |
the republican party seriously has no leadership at this point. it is completely run by neo-fascist pundits from AM radio, the internet, and fox news
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Obdicut Mon, Aug 2, 2010 11:21:11am |
re: #20 SpaceJesus
And all of those who I thought had integrity have not stepped up to the plate.
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DaddyG Mon, Aug 2, 2010 11:21:12am |
If nothing else you think they would have learned from the Michael Moore appearance at the DNC?!
I guess muck rakers are just too useful a political tool (and I mean tool in the least flattering way) to let go.
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Cato the Elder Mon, Aug 2, 2010 11:21:32am |
re: #20 SpaceJesus
the republican party seriously has no leadership at this point. it is completely run by neo-fascist pundits from AM radio, the internet, and fox news
Let’s just drop the “neo”, shall we?
A fascist is a fascist is a fascist.
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darthstar Mon, Aug 2, 2010 11:21:44am |
If only Sarah Palin “had the cojones” to tell the GOP to divorce itself from teabaggers like Breitbart…oops…did I use a Spanish word?
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DaddyG Mon, Aug 2, 2010 11:23:03am |
re: #23 Cato the Elder
Let’s just drop the “neo”, shall we?
A fascist is a fascist is a fascist.
Yes but trditional facists had spiffier uniforms than todays minimalist skinhead look. /
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SpaceJesus Mon, Aug 2, 2010 11:24:17am |
re: #24 darthstar
If only Sarah Palin “had the cojones” to tell the GOP to divorce itself from teabaggers like Breitbart…oops…did I use a Spanish word?
if only sarah had the cojones to not quit her job halfway through her term as governor of alaska
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tnguitarist Mon, Aug 2, 2010 11:24:53am |
I know this isn’t exactly on topic, but has anyone seen this article about Sharron Angle? Watch the shorter video. I couldn’t believe she actually said what she did about the media. I know I shouldn’t be surprised. She is Palin without any filters…….and that’s saying something.
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DaddyG Mon, Aug 2, 2010 11:24:56am |
re: #26 SpaceJesus
if only sarah had the cojones to not quit her job halfway through her term as governor of alaska
She did but they froze and fell off. /
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darthstar Mon, Aug 2, 2010 11:24:57am |
re: #23 Cato the Elder
Let’s just drop the “neo”, shall we?
A fascist is a fascist is a fascist.
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SpaceJesus Mon, Aug 2, 2010 11:25:24am |
re: #25 DaddyG
Yes but trditional facists had spiffier uniforms than todays minimalist skinhead look. /
i agree, old school fascists were at least pretty sharp dressers and had some semblance of being organized and also had the ability to spell words correctly
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DaddyG Mon, Aug 2, 2010 11:26:46am |
re: #30 SpaceJesus
i agree, old school fascists were at least pretty sharp dressers and had some semblance of being organized and also had the ability to spell words correctly
Shiny turds!
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tradewind Mon, Aug 2, 2010 11:28:42am |
re: #22 DaddyG
They’ve postponed it once. There’s a lot of wiggle room between now and September.
These affairs are so fluid…expect a major rearrangement of the guest list for Rangel’s big birthday bash next week.
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Fozzie Bear Mon, Aug 2, 2010 11:28:48am |
The RNC wouldn’t exist in its current form were it not for a lot of people that repeatedly elect Republicans.
Hate on the RNC all you want, they represent about a third of Americans perfectly. The RNC isn’t the problem, it’s the symptom.
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Cato the Elder Mon, Aug 2, 2010 11:29:28am |
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Obdicut Mon, Aug 2, 2010 11:30:30am |
re: #33 Fozzie Bear
I disagree with ‘perfectly’, but you’re right. They have support.
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SpaceJesus Mon, Aug 2, 2010 11:30:39am |
re: #33 Fozzie Bear
The RNC wouldn’t exist in its current form were it not for a lot of people that repeatedly elect Republicans.
Hate on the RNC all you want, they represent about a third of Americans perfectly. The RNC isn’t the problem, it’s the symptom.
hitler also only got 32 percent of the vote. interesting how that demographic seems to stay the same throughout the ages.
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DaddyG Mon, Aug 2, 2010 11:31:34am |
I am completely soured on Breitbarts shennanigans but equating middle American with racist stonge age f***s is over the top. There are a lot of people in middle America that are watching their paychecks shrink, their government grow and their prospects sinking under debt who are sympatico with the Tea Party movement without being racist or backwards.
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Radicchio ad Absurdum Mon, Aug 2, 2010 11:31:40am |
Frankly, I would rather he be invited so there is no question later about what the RNC represents. Embrace the man, embrace his message. Use as fodder for the Dems later on.
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Fozzie Bear Mon, Aug 2, 2010 11:33:01am |
re: #37 DaddyG
I am completely soured on Breitbarts shennanigans but equating middle American with racist stonge age f***s is over the top. There are a lot of people in middle America that are watching their paychecks shrink, their government grow and their prospects sinking under debt who are sympatico with the Tea Party movement without being racist or backwards.
And large majorities there keep voting for the GOP. I have no sympathy.
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SpaceJesus Mon, Aug 2, 2010 11:34:20am |
re: #37 DaddyG
those folks need to take a harder look at who they’re voting for and associating with then.
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tradewind Mon, Aug 2, 2010 11:34:29am |
re: #36 SpaceJesus
Comparing the RNC to hitler: ten pts.
How many more before you win enough for the official moonbat super-soaker?
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Obdicut Mon, Aug 2, 2010 11:34:47am |
re: #37 DaddyG
Well, they’re not sympatico with the Tea Party movement— because that movement doesn’t actually represent anything. They’re incoherent, and where they are coherent, they’re an astroturfed arch-conservative group.
They’re sympatico with the idea that the government has been failing them consistently for some time, which is true— but the Tea Party movement doesn’t actually represent any solution or even legitimate criticism to that fact.
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DaddyG Mon, Aug 2, 2010 11:36:27am |
re: #39 Fozzie Bear
And large majorities there keep voting for the GOP. I have no sympathy.
..and large majorities of city dwellers on both coasts vote Democratic consistently. That has nothing to do with their racism or lack therof.
Assuming that all R or D voters vote due to single racial or social issues is just ignorance of how fluid and complex party loyalty is. Are there racist turds that need to be disinvited from the party - yes! That does not justify overgeneralizations about the vast majority of US citizens or why they vote a particular way.
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SpaceJesus Mon, Aug 2, 2010 11:39:59am |
re: #43 DaddyG
but they’re still voting for people who have consistently shown that they are xenophobes, theocrats, and fanatics.
these good meaning folk need to inform themselves and find another party to vote for then. until then, they are merely empowering the worst party in the usa.
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rwdflynavy Mon, Aug 2, 2010 11:40:16am |
But… but… tu quoque!!!!
Dem0ncrat$ are just as bad!!!11!!
I got nothin…
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goddamnedfrank Mon, Aug 2, 2010 11:41:56am |
re: #37 DaddyG
I am completely soured on Breitbarts shennanigans but equating middle American with racist stonge age f***s is over the top. There are a lot of people in middle America that are watching their paychecks shrink, their government grow and their prospects sinking under debt who are sympatico with the Tea Party movement without being racist or backwards.
Right, those Tea Party simpatico people all coincidentally became acutely aware of and worried about these problems after the Black Democratic President took office.
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Aug 2, 2010 11:42:03am |
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DaddyG Mon, Aug 2, 2010 11:42:19am |
re: #42 Obdicut
Well, they’re not sympatico with the Tea Party movement— because that movement doesn’t actually represent anything. They’re incoherent, and where they are coherent, they’re an astroturfed arch-conservative group.
They’re sympatico with the idea that the government has been failing them consistently for some time, which is true— but the Tea Party movement doesn’t actually represent any solution or even legitimate criticism to that fact.
I would agree with that in the sense that a lot of people are looking for a place to hang their fiscal conservative hat and the Tea (Taxed Enough Already) Party movement is the movement that has a high enough profile to attract large numbers. There are certainly groups seeking to co-opt the message and power that comes with a constituency and they include bad people with bad agendas. As you said the movement is not quite coherent and time will tell if the heart and soul of the conservative movement will allow itself to be corrupted by racism and hate or if they will kick the bigots to the curb like the Democrats did towards the end of the civil rights movement.
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Aug 2, 2010 11:43:31am |
re: #4 tnguitarist
A big, white tent?
I’m reminded of Molly Ivins’ report from an RNC gone by, where the religious right was struggling to take over the rest of the party. They were challenged in this by a representative who was serving mixed drinks with little parasols, which she explained, represented the big tent.
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SpaceJesus Mon, Aug 2, 2010 11:44:09am |
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Aug 2, 2010 11:45:03am |
re: #15 Gus 802
So now the RNC has to major race baiters on their hands: Rush Limbaugh and Andrew Breitbart.
And, I’m sure, many minor stars in the race-baiting firmament as well. This is no good.
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SpaceJesus Mon, Aug 2, 2010 11:45:14am |
re: #49 SanFranciscoZionist
and barry goldwater who is a icon of the modern right (just below reagan) was completely opposed to the theocrat slant the GOP was going towards
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DaddyG Mon, Aug 2, 2010 11:45:21am |
re: #50 SpaceJesus
oh. my. god. justin bieber’s illustrated memoirs is on its way!
[Link: www.avclub.com…]
oh joy
Now there is something I could get a good bigoted hatred going towards. Teeny Boppers!!
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Cato the Elder Mon, Aug 2, 2010 11:45:44am |
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Obdicut Mon, Aug 2, 2010 11:46:01am |
re: #48 DaddyG
I would agree with that in the sense that a lot of people are looking for a place to hang their fiscal conservative hat
I would disagree that those people are actually fiscal conservatives, though. mainly, they don’t approach an actual understanding of fiscal matters enough to approach a real policy position.
“Taxed Enough Already” is an inherently idiotic phrase.
There are certainly groups seeking to co-opt the message and power that comes with a constituency and they include bad people with bad agendas.
I have yet to see a Tea Party candidate or group that promotes a good agenda. Can you show me one?
As you said the movement is not quite coherent and time will tell if the heart and soul of the conservative movement will allow itself to be corrupted by racism and hate or if they will kick the bigots to the curb like the Democrats did towards the end of the civil rights movement.
Brietbart is a big star for the RNC. Alex Jones is embraced.
I think time has told.
What more do you need, exactly?
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Walter L. Newton Mon, Aug 2, 2010 11:46:19am |
re: #52 Cato the Elder
And the resident tuquoquist arrives!
Thank you… thank you… please… don’t stand up… your applause is enough… calm down now…
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Walter L. Newton Mon, Aug 2, 2010 11:47:05am |
re: #56 Obdicut
Brietbart is a big star for the RNC. Alex Jones is embraced.
I think time has told.
What more do you need, exactly?
Not the democrats, that’s for fucking damn sure.
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DaddyG Mon, Aug 2, 2010 11:47:09am |
re: #53 SpaceJesus
and barry goldwater who is a icon of the modern right (just below reagan) was completely opposed to the theocrat slant the GOP was going towards
I miss Barry Morris Goldwater.
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HoosierHoops Mon, Aug 2, 2010 11:47:22am |
I see little leadership qualities from both the Dems and GOP these days..
Back when we were a young Country of maybe 3 million people we Had Washington, Jefferson , Adams, Franklin… a long list of great men and great leaders…Today with over 300 million citizens can anyone name a great political leader? Anyone? The cupboard is so bare that we had to elect a Community organizer as the most powerful man on earth.. No slam on Obama but really it was between him and an old entrenched Senator that really needed to retire 10 years ago.
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Cato the Elder Mon, Aug 2, 2010 11:47:36am |
Andrew Breitbart, a walking, talking embarrassment to the entire GOP.
“Look, over there! Charlie Rangel!”
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Varek Raith Mon, Aug 2, 2010 11:48:01am |
re: #61 Cato the Elder
Andrew Breitbart, a walking, talking embarrassment to the entire GOP.
“Look, over there! Charlie Rangel!”
MAXINE WATERS!
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Aug 2, 2010 11:48:31am |
re: #37 DaddyG
I am completely soured on Breitbarts shennanigans but equating middle American with racist stonge age f***s is over the top. There are a lot of people in middle America that are watching their paychecks shrink, their government grow and their prospects sinking under debt who are sympatico with the Tea Party movement without being racist or backwards.
I updinged that for the sake of supporting Middle America, but if they think the Tea Party is going to solve any of their problems, they may want to reconsider.
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Cato the Elder Mon, Aug 2, 2010 11:49:33am |
re: #62 Varek Raith
MAXINE WATERS!
Nobody seems to note the difference: Rangel and Waters are members of Congress and to get rid of them we need either an election or due process, whichever comes first.
To rid itself of Breitbart, the GOP merely has to say “so long, asshole!”
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Aug 2, 2010 11:49:38am |
re: #41 tradewind
Comparing the RNC to hitler: ten pts.
How many more before you win enough for the official moonbat super-soaker?
I don’t know, but you’re five points toward the wingnut version for cleverly slipping in Rangel above.
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Obdicut Mon, Aug 2, 2010 11:50:10am |
re: #58 Walter L. Newton
Not the democrats, that’s for fucking damn sure.
That makes no sense in the context of what I was talking about, actually.
But thanks for joining in.
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Aug 2, 2010 11:50:16am |
re: #46 goddamnedfrank
Right, those Tea Party simpatico people all coincidentally became acutely aware of and worried about these problems after the Black Democratic President took office.
That’s my sticking point.
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DaddyG Mon, Aug 2, 2010 11:50:22am |
If the DNC took care of Rangel when they should have he wouldn’t be news today. Maxine Waters is… well… Maxine Waters.
I’m not impressed with ANY US Senator or Representative that uses their office for personal advantage.
Remember it was Nancy Pelosi who promised to drain the swamp and no party or caucus should be too eager to protest when the stink starts to float to the surface.
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Aug 2, 2010 11:50:57am |
re: #50 SpaceJesus
oh. my. god. justin bieber’s illustrated memoirs is on its way!
[Link: www.avclub.com…]
oh joy
He’s ten years old. How can he have ‘memoirs’?
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deranged cat Mon, Aug 2, 2010 11:51:32am |
re: #27 tnguitarist
oh man, you are 100% right. she is ridiculous. (though i give her props for speaking her mind, even if she is 100% wrong)
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Aug 2, 2010 11:51:41am |
re: #53 SpaceJesus
and barry goldwater who is a icon of the modern right (just below reagan) was completely opposed to the theocrat slant the GOP was going towards
I don’t know who gets to be the ‘modern right’ these days, but my sense is that most of these folks don’t know who the hell Goldwater was.
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Radicchio ad Absurdum Mon, Aug 2, 2010 11:52:14am |
re: #50 SpaceJesus
oh. my. god. justin bieber’s illustrated memoirs is on its way!
[Link: www.avclub.com…]
oh joy
Memoir? Illustrated? With his best stick figures? I await with bated breath his musings on life post K4. Isn’t that kid like 10 years old?
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Walter L. Newton Mon, Aug 2, 2010 11:52:19am |
re: #65 SanFranciscoZionist
I don’t know, but you’re five points toward the wingnut version for cleverly slipping in Rangel above.
There is talk that it’s a racial issue, that blacks are being targeted in these allegations…
“The question of whether black lawmakers are now being singled out for scrutiny has been simmering throughout the 111th Congress, with the Office of Congressional Ethics a focal point of the concerns. At one point earlier this year, all eight lawmakers under formal investigation by the House ethics committee, including Rangel and Waters, were black Democrats. All those investigations originated with the OCE, which can make recommendations — but takes no final actions — on such cases.”
[Link: www.politico.com…]
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Aug 2, 2010 11:52:55am |
re: #64 Cato the Elder
Nobody seems to note the difference: Rangel and Waters are members of Congress and to get rid of them we need either an election or due process, whichever comes first.
To rid itself of Breitbart, the GOP merely has to say “so long, asshole!”
Damn skippy. He is no one. I’m not sure why the RNC is treating him like he’s someone, but it is not becoming.
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SpaceJesus Mon, Aug 2, 2010 11:53:21am |
re: #71 SanFranciscoZionist
I don’t know who gets to be the ‘modern right’ these days, but my sense is that most of these folks don’t know who the hell Goldwater was.
really? most conservatives i know bullshit endlessly about how we need reagan and goldwater back to save ‘merca
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Aug 2, 2010 11:53:54am |
re: #68 DaddyG
If the DNC took care of Rangel when they should have he wouldn’t be news today. Maxine Waters is… well… Maxine Waters.
I’m not impressed with ANY US Senator or Representative that uses their office for personal advantage.
Remember it was Nancy Pelosi who promised to drain the swamp and no party or caucus should be too eager to protest when the stink starts to float to the surface.
Well, the swamp appears to be getting drained. Or at least, subpoenaed.
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goddamnedfrank Mon, Aug 2, 2010 11:54:49am |
re: #17 Lidane
Racist master baiters? ;)
Masterhaters.
“I found the unedited Sherrod video very difficult to masterhate to.”
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Aug 2, 2010 11:54:57am |
re: #73 Walter L. Newton
There is talk that it’s a racial issue, that blacks are being targeted in these allegations…
“The question of whether black lawmakers are now being singled out for scrutiny has been simmering throughout the 111th Congress, with the Office of Congressional Ethics a focal point of the concerns. At one point earlier this year, all eight lawmakers under formal investigation by the House ethics committee, including Rangel and Waters, were black Democrats. All those investigations originated with the OCE, which can make recommendations — but takes no final actions — on such cases.”
[Link: www.politico.com…]
That was inevitable, I’m afraid.
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Walter L. Newton Mon, Aug 2, 2010 11:55:43am |
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zora Mon, Aug 2, 2010 11:55:53am |
re: #60 HoosierHoops
I see little leadership qualities from both the Dems and GOP these days..
Back when we were a young Country of maybe 3 million people we Had Washington, Jefferson , Adams, Franklin… a long list of great men and great leaders…Today with over 300 million citizens can anyone name a great political leader? Anyone? The cupboard is so bare that we had to elect a Community organizer as the most powerful man on earth.. No slam on Obama but really it was between him and an old entrenched Senator that really needed to retire 10 years ago.
we elected a senator, not a community organizer. although that was one of his earlier jobs and doesn’t deserve to be mocked, imo. you make it sound like we picked someone from the local acorn office.
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albusteve Mon, Aug 2, 2010 11:57:16am |
the feds are filthy…some bad juju in the air, festering and putrid…
and the GOP is possessed by demons
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Walter L. Newton Mon, Aug 2, 2010 11:58:08am |
re: #80 zora
we elected a senator, not a community organizer. although that was one of his earlier jobs and doesn’t deserve to be mocked, imo. you make it sound like we picked someone from the local acorn office.
Up ding for speaking the truth… without even realizing it.
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HoosierHoops Mon, Aug 2, 2010 11:58:37am |
re: #80 zora
we elected a senator, not a community organizer. although that was one of his earlier jobs and doesn’t deserve to be mocked, imo. you make it sound like we picked someone from the local acorn office.
Ok a rookie politician..And I wasn’t Mocking Obama..I was making an observation on the lack of great leaders in Modern America…
I voted for Obama…
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Fozzie Bear Mon, Aug 2, 2010 11:58:43am |
re: #68 DaddyG
If the DNC took care of Rangel when they should have he wouldn’t be news today. Maxine Waters is… well… Maxine Waters.
I’m not impressed with ANY US Senator or Representative that uses their office for personal advantage.
Remember it was Nancy Pelosi who promised to drain the swamp and no party or caucus should be too eager to protest when the stink starts to float to the surface.
Rangel is being investigated by the majority party, of which he is a member. Are you suggesting that the DNC isn’t dealing with Rangel?
I notice you used a direct invocation of a recent John Boehner quote.
“I expect, and the American people expect, the highest ethical standards from their members of Congress,” Boehner said, sitting alongside McConnell on Fox News. “Nancy Pelosi said four years ago that it was time to drain the swamp. I can’t believe it’s taken some two years to investigate the Charlie Rangel case. But the fact is she has not kept her promise. The swamp is alive and well.”
From here. Talking points abound.
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DaddyG Mon, Aug 2, 2010 11:58:51am |
re: #46 goddamnedfrank
Right, those Tea Party simpatico people all coincidentally became acutely aware of and worried about these problems after the Black Democratic President took office.
I’ve been mulling this for a few minutes to try to give a fair response.
There are plenty of racist or plain ignorant conspiracy freaks who are against President Obama for all the wrong reasons. I agree with you on that point. That doesn’t mean there aren’t people in middle America (somewhere between Canton Ohio and Las Vegas Nevada) that aren’t struggling to find a political identity that supports their positive values. The Democratic party isn’t going to attract them on single social issues or by expanding the role of government (arguably even during a crisis that may require more government intenrvention).
In order to get traditional conservatives to abandon tranditional party ties you have to offer something positive - not just trash a characture of their beliefs. And most midwestern farmers or construction workers are not thinking about the color of the guy in the whitehouse. They are thinking that they are up to their ears in debt and in danger of never working again.
Elitist diatribes against the unwashed masses will not attract more people to any political party.
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Obdicut Mon, Aug 2, 2010 12:00:36pm |
re: #82 Walter L. Newton
Up ding for speaking the truth… without even realizing it.
Except that’s not the truth. No matter how much you want it to be.
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DaddyG Mon, Aug 2, 2010 12:00:52pm |
re: #75 SpaceJesus
really? most conservatives i know bullshit endlessly about how we need reagan and goldwater back to save ‘merca
The zombie Reagan vote.
I would like a live politician to pick up on some of the core principles that Goldwater stood for. How about that?
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albusteve Mon, Aug 2, 2010 12:01:22pm |
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Fozzie Bear Mon, Aug 2, 2010 12:01:40pm |
re: #82 Walter L. Newton
Up ding for speaking the truth… without even realizing it.
Oh Jesus here come the deranged conspiracy theories.
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Obdicut Mon, Aug 2, 2010 12:02:53pm |
re: #87 DaddyG
Goldwater, unfortunately, voted against the Civil Rights Act.
I don’t think Goldwater values are exactly what we need from the right, right now. Late-period-Buckley values, perhaps.
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SpaceJesus Mon, Aug 2, 2010 12:02:59pm |
re: #87 DaddyG
The zombie Reagan vote.
I would like a live politician to pick up on some of the core principles that Goldwater stood for. How about that?
i could respect the gop a lot more if they ran people like goldwater again
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SpaceJesus Mon, Aug 2, 2010 12:03:23pm |
re: #91 Obdicut
oops, forgot about that one. welp. nevermind then.
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goddamnedfrank Mon, Aug 2, 2010 12:04:22pm |
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DaddyG Mon, Aug 2, 2010 12:04:51pm |
re: #84 Fozzie Bear
I was using Nancy Pelosi’s talking point plus the fact that Rangle was caught with his hand in the cookie jar several years ago on the Carribbian Condo deal. My memory isn’t so bad I need a pundit to remind me of events that are older than two weeks.
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Fozzie Bear Mon, Aug 2, 2010 12:04:53pm |
re: #87 DaddyG
The zombie Reagan vote.
I would like a live politician to pick up on some of the core principles that Goldwater stood for. How about that?
That would be fucking horrible. Goldwater was an unrepentant racist scumbag.
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Obdicut Mon, Aug 2, 2010 12:05:29pm |
re: #93 SpaceJesus
oops, forgot about that one. welp. nevermind then.
His opposition to it was ‘principled’— he honestly did feel it was unconstitutional.
His work later in life on behalf of gays was very inspiring.
So perhaps late-period Goldwater.
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Fozzie Bear Mon, Aug 2, 2010 12:05:30pm |
re: #95 DaddyG
I was using Nancy Pelosi’s talking point plus the fact that Rangle was caught with his hand in the cookie jar several years ago on the Carribbian Condo deal. My memory isn’t so bad I need a pundit to remind me of events that are older than two weeks.
You do realize that he is being investigated by the DNC, under rules recently proposed an enacted by the DNC, don’t you?
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Fozzie Bear Mon, Aug 2, 2010 12:05:57pm |
re: #96 Fozzie Bear
That would be fucking horrible. Goldwater was an unrepentant racist scumbag.
Ok, a repentant one.
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DaddyG Mon, Aug 2, 2010 12:06:08pm |
re: #91 Obdicut
Goldwater, unfortunately, voted against the Civil Rights Act.
I don’t think Goldwater values are exactly what we need from the right, right now. Late-period-Buckley values, perhaps.
Fair enough. Dioganes is still looking for an honest man. Hopefully not in Washington DC.
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SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Aug 2, 2010 12:06:09pm |
re: #85 DaddyG
Elitist diatribes against the unwashed masses will not attract more people to any political party.
Unfortunately, screaming diatribes against the eeeeeelitists and the rest of the scum of society apparently WILL.
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DaddyG Mon, Aug 2, 2010 12:07:14pm |
re: #96 Fozzie Bear
That would be fucking horrible. Goldwater was an unrepentant racist scumbag.
Obdicut educated me about the civil rights act. Thanks.
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Gus Mon, Aug 2, 2010 12:07:28pm |
OT - Mitch Miller passed away. He was 99 years old.
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Varek Raith Mon, Aug 2, 2010 12:07:39pm |
re: #101 SanFranciscoZionist
Unfortunately, screaming diatribes against the eeelitists and the rest of the scum of society apparently WILL.
The average American ain’t the brightest bulb on the tree.
/ELITIST.
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HoosierHoops Mon, Aug 2, 2010 12:08:34pm |
re: #92 SpaceJesus
i could respect the gop a lot more if they ran people like goldwater again
Before my time..But all I’ve ever heard about Goldwater was he was the ultimate hard Core rightwinger….Didn’t he want to Nuke Russian once? I dunno..Just what I heard
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SpaceJesus Mon, Aug 2, 2010 12:08:43pm |
re: #97 Obdicut
His opposition to it was ‘principled’— he honestly did feel it was unconstitutional.
His work later in life on behalf of gays was very inspiring.
So perhaps late-period Goldwater.
the old ron and rand paul excuse. hmmm
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DaddyG Mon, Aug 2, 2010 12:08:52pm |
re: #101 SanFranciscoZionist
Unfortunately, screaming diatribes against the eeelitists and the rest of the scum of society apparently WILL.
Nah! I don’t think there will be much success with that either. Honestly - the approval rating of congress being within the margin of error of the unemployment rate will get more traction than any negative campaigns or protests. Even the ones with b-side country western music stars attending.
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albusteve Mon, Aug 2, 2010 12:10:04pm |
re: #96 Fozzie Bear
That would be fucking horrible. Goldwater was an unrepentant racist scumbag.
wrong…nice try tho
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Our Precious Bodily Fluids Mon, Aug 2, 2010 12:15:40pm |
A bit late, but appropriate:
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Decatur Deb Mon, Aug 2, 2010 12:16:43pm |
,Babyjacking another thread. Daughter is getting nicer drugs and still taking her time about things. The baby heartbeat is on a monitor speaker, sounds like “Alien” meets “The Telltale Heart”. (Rate is 140/min, about the tone and tempo of a Maytag washer.)
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Feline Fearless Leader Mon, Aug 2, 2010 1:00:08pm |
re: #71 SanFranciscoZionist
I don’t know who gets to be the ‘modern right’ these days, but my sense is that most of these folks don’t know who the hell Goldwater was.
Baldrick: I know. It’s like Ironwater or Bronzewater, except it’s made with Gold…
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