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1 Don Durito  Mon, Jul 25, 2011 11:53:53pm

That was one of the first 7" singles I ever picked up. Must have been about 9 or 10 at the time. Great song by a great band.

2 fire at night  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 1:26:09am

That background is a trip.

3 AK-47%  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 1:34:23am

white people trying to clap along like steve martin in "the jerk"...

4 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 2:04:08am

Morning Honcos. All five of ya...

5 AK-47%  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 2:07:17am

Just like the Spinners...

6 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 2:08:47am

I am having no problem with any site I try to visit, except AOL which is where I get most of my mail. Fuckers.

8 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 2:26:46am

Greetings Lizards!

Afternoon here in an internet cafe in Kuala Lumpur. Drinking fresh mango juice and eating curry noodles while I catch up on things.

:)

9 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 2:28:48am

re: #8 oaktree

Greetings Lizards!

Afternoon here in an internet cafe in Kuala Lumpur. Drinking fresh mango juice and eating curry noodles while I catch up on things.

:)

Taking a break from the revolution?
/

10 AK-47%  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 2:30:49am

Kuala Lumpur Gravy Part 1

Youtube Video
11 EdDantes  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 2:31:20am

re: #7 Cannadian Club Akbar

Absurd. Tampabay should review their facts or there is something very wrong in that jurisdiction.

12 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 2:32:56am

re: #11 EdDantes

Absurd. Tampabay should review their facts or there is something very wrong in that jurisdiction.

They may have missed a zero. The guy would have been actually charged with 2 things: DUI and refusing a breathalyzer/urine/blood test.

13 AK-47%  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 2:33:10am

re: #11 EdDantes

Absurd. Tampabay should review their facts or there is something very wrong in that jurisdiction.

Government interference in freedom of travel!

14 EdDantes  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 2:34:22am

re: #12 Cannadian Club Akbar

And how about child endangerment?

15 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 2:36:19am

re: #14 EdDantes

And how about child endangerment?

That too. And if they can find out where the damage to his car happened, add on "leaving the scene of an accident/w DUI".

16 EdDantes  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 2:37:49am

re: #13 ralphieboy

The government damn well better interfere in the freedom of travel of drucking funk (pardon my French)!

17 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 2:38:28am

re: #9 Cannadian Club Akbar

Taking a break from the revolution?
/

Preparing the backup bunker location for when the US Congress opts to default the debt and self-destruct the economy.

As a matter of fact three weeks without exposure to US politics has been the true vacation in a way.

Lots of page fodder from this trip from observations on food, wildlife, and simple cultural differences. This is essentially a secular Muslim nation that has its share of fanatics but generally is simply people working on getting by and making their country a better place.

18 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 2:38:34am

re: #16 EdDantes

The government damn well better interfere in the freedom of travel of drucking funk (pardon my French)!

But he was trying to take a nap!!

19 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 2:41:07am

re: #17 oaktree

Getting away from our politics is always a good thing. I've actually taken breaks because it has driven me insane. But I had to do it here. A bit harder to do, but possible.

20 EdDantes  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 2:41:53am

re: #18 Cannadian Club Akbar

Let the 11 year old take the wheel! Hell, I drove at 11 although it was a different era.

21 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 2:43:13am

re: #20 EdDantes

Let the 11 year old take the wheel! Hell, I drove at 11 although it was a different era.

Me as well. My dad actually let me drive on the main roads on late Saturday nights. And I was driving a 1968 Firebird with a 400 big block. Heh.

22 AK-47%  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 2:43:27am

re: #20 EdDantes

Let the 11 year old take the wheel! Hell, I drove at 11 although it was a different era.

why should the government know better than parents when our children are ready to drive our cars?

23 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 2:45:23am

re: #22 ralphieboy

I know 30-year-olds that should not be allowed to drive cars.

24 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 2:45:53am

re: #20 EdDantes

Let the 11 year old take the wheel! Hell, I drove at 11 although it was a different era.

Also, remember when a family could go into a restaurant and the parents could order a draft for an underage kid? I remember my friend and I going to see his dad at a local hangout and his dad ordering us beers. Wow. Try that shit now.

25 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 2:51:11am

re: #24 Cannadian Club Akbar

Also, remember when a family could go into a restaurant and the parents could order a draft for an underage kid? I remember my friend and I going to see his dad at a local hangout and his dad ordering us beers. Wow. Try that shit now.

Insurance and lawyers.

26 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 2:53:54am

re: #19 Cannadian Club Akbar

Getting away from our politics is always a good thing. I've actually taken breaks because it has driven me insane. But I had to do it here. A bit harder to do, but possible.

Some things are inescapable. They play Lady Gaga on the radio here - with the DJs talking in Malay.

(Though this is probably on the 2nd-3rd time I've been in a place with a radio playing music in the past two weeks.)

27 EdDantes  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 2:55:38am

re: #22 ralphieboy

They government should know better because of statistics. I learned on rural roads in Oregon in the sixties. My dad learned on rural roads in Oklahoma in the 30's. As I said different eras. Perhaps children should learn at an earlier age but in contemporary California it would be mayhem.

28 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 2:56:24am

re: #26 oaktree

I heard my first Lady Gaga song about a month ago. I don't listen to much music radio and the station I do listen to has a kick ass afternoon show that is limited on the music they play which is older rock. (not classic although it could be called that)

29 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 3:00:21am

re: #28 Cannadian Club Akbar

I heard my first Lady Gaga song about a month ago. I don't listen to much music radio and the station I do listen to has a kick ass afternoon show that is limited on the music they play which is older rock. (not classic although it could be called that)

I'm traveling with an iPod I bought specifically to deal with the airplane flights and dead time on the longer car drives (though I mainly have been playing navigator for my brother who is doing most of the driving.) I loaded about 36 hours of music and it is mainly 80s and 90s rock with a mix of jazz, classical, and some other music added on. When in doubt I put on old Genesis or Supertramp albums. :)

30 EdDantes  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 3:00:28am

re: #21 Cannadian Club Akbar

Me as well. My dad actually let me drive on the main roads on late Saturday nights. And I was driving a 1968 Firebird with a 400 big block. Heh.

The first thing I drove was a '54 five window Chevy pickup.

31 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 3:03:20am

re: #8 oaktree

Greetings Lizards!

Afternoon here in an internet cafe in Kuala Lumpur. Drinking fresh mango juice and eating curry noodles while I catch up on things.

:)

Mmm sounds good. What kind of noodles are used in Kuala Lumpur curry noodles?

32 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 3:04:15am

re: #29 oaktree

Genesis and Supertramp are the kinds of bands I forget I love. Then I'd hear a song on the radio and beat a path to the used CD store. (I'm not cool enough to have an iPod yet)

33 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 3:04:58am

re: #31 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Mmm sounds good. What kind of noodles are used in Kuala Lumpur curry noodles?

Flat rice noodles. Though I'm sure I could have gotten a different kind. My SiL is fond of curry laksa so I thought I'd have a bowl too.

34 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 3:05:38am

re: #30 EdDantes

The first thing I drove was a '54 five window Chevy pickup.

Five windows in a truck? Haven't seen that. But I learned how to drive a stick in an Econoline Flat Nose Ford truck, 3 speed on the column.

35 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 3:07:48am

re: #32 Cannadian Club Akbar

Genesis and Supertramp are the kinds of bands I forget I love. Then I'd hear a song on the radio and beat a path to the used CD store. (I'm not cool enough to have an iPod yet)

I love both of them. Supertramp was amazing. Would be good for High-Drama 80s Keyboard Clip of the Day.

36 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 3:07:53am

brb

37 EdDantes  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 3:12:20am

re: #34 Cannadian Club Akbar

Five windows in a truck? Haven't seen that. But I learned how to drive a stick in an Econoline Flat Nose Ford truck, 3 speed on the column.

Here's one. [Link: cgi.ebay.com...]

I learned to drive a three on the tree in my dad's 64 malibu.

38 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 3:13:49am

re: #32 Cannadian Club Akbar

Genesis and Supertramp are the kinds of bands I forget I love. Then I'd hear a song on the radio and beat a path to the used CD store. (I'm not cool enough to have an iPod yet)

I'm not an electronic device buff either - but broke down for this trip. I was forgetful of how I liked older Genesis (Gabriel stuff up through until Hackett left) until I started listening to Genesis play lists on YouTube.

And the Supertramp album was actually an automated suggestion from iTunes when I was selecting a few extra songs to fill out the CDs I had already downloaded.

39 AK-47%  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 3:14:59am

re: #32 Cannadian Club Akbar

Genesis and Supertramp are the kinds of bands I forget I love. (I'm not cool enough to have an iPod yet)

I lost interest in Genesis when they lost Peter Gabriel. Loved them up to that point.

40 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 3:15:50am

re: #35 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

I love both of them. Supertramp was amazing. Would be good for High-Drama 80s Keyboard Clip of the Day.

I put "Trick of the Tail" and "Crime of the Century" in their own playlist and just do a shuffle through both albums. :)

Did the same thing with three Metallica albums for when I want something to keep me awake.

41 EdDantes  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 3:16:22am

re: #39 ralphieboy

Same here. Gabriel was the best.

42 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 3:21:06am

re: #40 oaktree

I put "Trick of the Tail" and "Crime of the Century" in their own playlist and just do a shuffle through both albums. :)

Did the same thing with three Metallica albums for when I want something to keep me awake.

I had to travel Alligator Alley years ago. Effing boring. I would jam Anthrax to keep me awake.

43 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 3:21:07am

re: #39 ralphieboy

I lost interest in Genesis when they lost Peter Gabriel. Loved them up to that point.

I like Gabriel both with Genesis and solo, but my favorite Genesis album is actually "Trick of the Tail". Once they lost Hackett they essentially turned into the Phil Collins pop-song collection though there are songs in there I like (thus having a Genesis hits CD from that period.) Though I give Collins some credit for adjusting to where pop music was going at that time as the progressive rock era was ending. (And I miss it.)

44 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 3:22:48am

I just applied for a county job at a waste water plant. Answered "yes" to all the preliminary questions. Weird. Who knew taking Chemistry in high skool would work to my advantage years later.

45 AK-47%  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 3:26:28am

re: #43 oaktree


ToT was the last Genesis album I liked at all, probably because it still sounded like them with PG

46 sattv4u2  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 3:27:41am

re: #44 Cannadian Club Akbar

I just applied for a county job at a waste water plant. Answered "yes" to all the preliminary questions. Weird. Who knew taking Chemistry in high skool would work to my advantage years later.

taste tester?

47 AK-47%  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 3:27:42am

re: #44 Cannadian Club Akbar

I just applied for a county job at a waste water plant. Answered "yes" to all the preliminary questions. Weird. Who knew taking Chemistry in high skool would work to my advantage years later.

What were the questions? "Do you líke poop?" "Do you smoke?"

48 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 3:28:25am

Genesis played in St. Pete or Tampa many years ago. They quit playing after 3 songs. No refunds. I think the people trashed the arena.

49 Varek Raith  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 3:28:49am

re: #46 sattv4u2

taste tester?

Yum.

50 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 3:29:47am

re: #47 ralphieboy

What were the questions? "Do you líke poop?" "Do you smoke?"

Har.
Can you read a gauge.
Can you drive a forklift.
Can you work on heavy machinery.
Can you work on pumps.
Etc.

51 researchok  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 3:29:49am

Morning, all

52 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 3:30:57am

Have a good day folks. Need to roll out of here and meet folk for dinner. Will page about food at the very least when I get back to the States.

53 sattv4u2  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 3:31:30am

re: #50 Cannadian Club Akbar

Har.
Can you read a gauge.
Can you drive a forklift.
Can you work on heavy machinery.
Can you work on IN pumps.
Etc.

Good thing you have plenty of womens shoes!

54 AK-47%  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 3:31:58am

underwater baske weaving skills?

55 EdDantes  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 3:32:53am

Nite all.

56 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 3:33:03am

Everyone is SO funny this morning.

57 sattv4u2  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 3:33:31am

re: #54 ralphieboy

underwater baske weaving skills?

whats a baske? Is that anything like a basque???

58 Varek Raith  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 3:35:07am

re: #56 Cannadian Club Akbar

Everyone is SO funny this morning.

Pay as you go???

59 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 3:36:32am

re: #58 Varek Raith

Pay as you go???

Coin operated urinal???

60 Obdicut  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 3:37:07am

Olsonist posted an awesome article in an older thread:

[Link: essays.bearstrong.net...]

Some key paragraphs:


And this is what I mean by being out of touch, of remaining stuck in old models. The problem is not that Bawer believes that immigration poses serious challenges to Europe. I do. This attack does not remove those challenges. The problem is that a writer who lives in Norway during the worst terrorist attack of our history, an attack carried out by a Muslim hater who is at least somewhat in sync with Bawer’s own views, does not have the common sense, the decency, to shut up about Muslims even for the length of a single article.

Bawer has often written about the challenges of integrating immigrants into Europan society. I wonder how well he himself is integrated in Norwegian society today, or whether he, like the immigrants he criticize, considers it disdainfully, from a distance, enjoying its hospitality but standing aloof, alone.


That last part really got to me. A lot of the right-wingers have inherited that mantle of the radical left; they are so critical of society that they're basically placing themselves outside it, while reaping its benefits.

61 sattv4u2  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 3:39:26am

re: #59 Cannadian Club Akbar

Coin operated urinal???

Here I sit, brokenhearted

Paid a dime, and only farted

62 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 3:50:27am

Today is the 20th anniversary of Pee Wee Herman touching himself in a X rated theater in Sarasota. We got class!!!

63 AK-47%  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 3:53:32am

re: #62 Cannadian Club Akbar

Today is the 20th anniversary of Pee Wee Herman touching himself in a X rated theater in Sarasota. We got class!!!

That was the height of the Andy Kaufman style of edgy "is this guy for real?" style of humor.

64 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 3:54:27am

brb

65 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 4:19:44am

My friend has a kick ass fogger to beat back the mosquito hordes. Thing is fucking cool.

66 The Left  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 4:20:59am

re: #65 Cannadian Club Akbar

My friend has a kick ass fogger to beat back the mosquito hordes. Thing is fucking cool.

Sounds cool. When Jimmah was in nyc with me last spring he got mosquito bites that swelled up in an alarming fashion. His whole leg was swollen.

67 AK-47%  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 4:22:38am

re: #65 Cannadian Club Akbar

My friend has a kick ass fogger to beat back the mosquito hordes. Thing is fucking cool.

I remember as a kid in Gary, Indiana when the mosquito control trucks came by to fog up the neighborhood, we would run behind the truck in the cloud it was emitting...

68 sattv4u2  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 4:23:32am

re: #67 ralphieboy

I remember as a kid in Gary, Indiana when the mosquito control trucks came by to fog up the neighborhood, we would run behind the truck in the cloud it was emitting...

Ahh,,, the good old days

Nothing like a free gov't pesticide high!!

69 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 4:24:21am

re: #66 iceweasel

Sounds cool. When Jimmah was in nyc with me last spring he got mosquito bites that swelled up in an alarming fashion. His whole leg was swollen.

The southeast US has been hit by tiger mosquitos. You can call/email/whatever the skeeter control department, no use. They are really backed up. Plus, what they spray doesn't kill the little bastard's larvae. But it sounds like Benadryl is Jimmah's friend.:)

70 AK-47%  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 4:26:14am

re: #68 sattv4u2

Ahh,,, the good old days

Nothing like a free gov't pesticide high!!


My favorite chore as a kid was burning the trash: we tossed in anything that would burn, god knows what sort of PCBs, dioxins and sundry toxins we were setting free.

71 sattv4u2  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 4:27:56am

re: #70 ralphieboy

My favorite chore as a kid was burning the trash: we tossed in anything that would burn, god knows what sort of PCBs, dioxins and sundry toxins we were setting free.

Yeah

Much better to have that stuff taken to a land fill where it sits and seeps into the ground for the next 50 years !!

//

72 RogueOne  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 4:28:38am

re: #66 iceweasel

Sounds cool. When Jimmah was in nyc with me last spring he got mosquito bites that swelled up in an alarming fashion. His whole leg was swollen.

Is he allergic to mosquitos or are the US version extra-militant compared to Ireland? (You guys are in Ireland aren't you?)

73 RogueOne  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 4:29:03am

re: #67 ralphieboy

I remember as a kid in Gary, Indiana when the mosquito control trucks came by to fog up the neighborhood, we would run behind the truck in the cloud it was emitting...

Did the same growing up in Cincy

74 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 4:29:28am

re: #71 sattv4u2

Yeah

Much better to have that stuff taken to a land fill where it sits and seeps into the ground for the next 50 years !!

//

We turn our old land fills into golf courses here. One place I used to play had tons of broken glass in the sand trap on 16. Wanna guess where I always hit the ball?

75 sattv4u2  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 4:30:15am

re: #74 Cannadian Club Akbar

We turn our old land fills into golf courses here. One place I used to play had tons of broken glass in the sand trap on 16. Wanna guess where I always hit the ball?

in your golf shorts?

76 The Left  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 4:30:26am

re: #72 RogueOne

Is he allergic to mosquitos or are the US version extra-militant compared to Ireland? (You guys are in Ireland aren't you?)

Scotland. I think he just had no defense against new york mosquitos. We don't get mosquitos here, just flies and midges.

77 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 4:31:32am

re: #76 iceweasel

Scotland. I think he just had no defense against new york mosquitos. We don't get mosquitos here, just flies and midges.

New York Skeeters would be a great name for a band.

78 RogueOne  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 4:32:22am

re: #76 iceweasel

Scotland. I think he just had no defense against new york mosquitos. We don't get mosquitos here, just flies and midges.

Makes sense. Keep him out of the south. The last time I was running around the woods in Mississippi there were mosquitoes as big as birds.

79 AK-47%  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 4:32:34am

re: #71 sattv4u2

Yeah

Much better to have that stuff taken to a land fill where it sits and seeps into the ground for the next 50 years !!

//

I remember asking my dad where all the smoke from the factory chimneys went, he said they just got taken up into the air and dissipated.

But he was of the generation that gave no thought to such things, smoking chimeys were a good thing, they meant employment and prosperity.

I recall seeing an old German social studies textbook from the mid 60's, there was a photo of a chemical plant on the cover and you could see that they had airbrushed the smoke coming from them to make it look more attractive.

80 The Left  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 4:34:23am

re: #77 Cannadian Club Akbar

New York Skeeters would be a great name for a band.

Brilliant!
Maybe the women's roller hockey team at Coney Island will take it. ;)

Last year at this time I was in a sublet in Coney Island-- the mosquito problem there is HUGE.

81 The Left  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 4:36:53am

Britons are Drinking Less Beer Because Cocaine Is So Cheap

The Telegraph today reports that beer sales in Britain have dropped 9.8 percent between April and June of this year, and the same time last year. That's the biggest dip in sales in 14 years. So, why are beer sales plummeting? The paper assigns blame to the outrageous taxes imposed on brewers, a 35.4 percent rise in duties since March 2008, but it failed to include another factor — cocaine has never been cheaper!

82 RogueOne  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 4:36:53am

re: #80 iceweasel

Brilliant!
Maybe the women's roller hockey team at Coney Island will take it. ;)

Last year at this time I was in a sublet in Coney Island-- the mosquito problem there is HUGE.

river cities get them bad:

Missouri River towns face mosquito flood
[Link: www.kansas.com...]

83 RogueOne  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 4:37:41am

re: #81 iceweasel

Britons are Drinking Less Beer Because Cocaine Is So Cheap

That's a pretty big leap of logic....beer is a gateway drug to cocaine?

84 darthstar  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 4:37:55am

Mornin' sludge.

85 darthstar  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 4:38:23am

re: #81 iceweasel

Britons are Drinking Less Beer Because Cocaine Is So Cheap

I always drank more when I did coke.

86 RogueOne  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 4:38:32am

Figures. Wonderboy and the demon child show up just as I'm about to leave....

87 darthstar  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 4:38:54am

re: #86 RogueOne

Figures. Wonderboy and the demon child show up just as I'm about to leave...

I'm here too. :)

88 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 4:38:55am

re: #85 darthstar

I always drank more when I did coke.

I always did coke when I drank to much.

89 The Left  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 4:39:05am

re: #86 RogueOne

Figures. Wonderboy and the demon child show up just as I'm about to leave...

Am I the demon child? Can I be?

90 sattv4u2  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 4:39:42am

re: #83 RogueOne

That's a pretty big leap of logic...beer CASH is a gateway drug to cocaine?

91 The Left  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 4:40:27am

re: #83 RogueOne

That's a pretty big leap of logic...beer is a gateway drug to cocaine?

Nah, gawker just points out that the price of cocaine has gone way down and that usage is up. I recall some story a couple of years ago about the Thames and the amount of coke circulating through it.

92 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 4:42:54am

re: #91 iceweasel

I saw Taboo on NatGeo about coke. They covered a guy who would have coke parties in England. Everyone was fine but bolted when the coke ran out. My thought was that the guy had an eight ball stashed in the house. I would have at least.

93 RogueOne  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 4:43:00am

re: #91 iceweasel

Nah, gawker just points out that the price of cocaine has gone way down and that usage is up. I recall some story a couple of years ago about the Thames and the amount of coke circulating through it.

I seem to remember a study years ago about how many dollar bills were contaminated with coke. I never liked the stuff. I am a massive coca-cola addict though. You never have to suck **** in the park to scratch up enough money to buy a soda though.

94 darthstar  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 4:43:05am

I have to say, I really don't miss the days of thinking it was cool to go wipe off the top of a toilet to chop out a couple of lines.

95 RogueOne  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 4:43:29am

re: #92 Cannadian Club Akbar

I saw Taboo on NatGeo about coke. They covered a guy who would have coke parties in England. Everyone was fine but bolted when the coke ran out. My thought was that the guy had an eight ball stashed in the house. I would have at least.

Proper Planning Prevents Poor Performance.

96 The Left  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 4:45:40am

I'm somewhat amazed by how many people here have coke experience. I only tried it twice when I was a teenager and it really didn't do anything for me. My heart felt like it would leap out of my chest but that's about it.

If I were ever to have a drug problem it would be heroin. I've never done it but I've been given morphine-ish stuff while in hospital and damn, I can see how that's addictive.

97 RogueOne  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 4:45:54am

Isn't coke basically just a weak version of meth? If you want speed, go straight to the source.

98 The Left  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 4:47:23am

Internet deprivation feels 'like having [a] hand chopped off,' study says

In the newest research to show that we have all become so Internet dependent that we may as well be robots, a study reported that 53 percent of us feel upset when denied access to the Internet and 40 percent feel lonely if we are unable to go online.

The researchers quizzed 1,000 British participants about how they felt after going 24 hours without any access to Internet technology, the Daily Mail reported.

One person surveyed said that being deprived of the internet was “like having my hand chopped off.” Others said it was akin to giving up drinking and smoking. Many of them experienced feelings of sadness or loneliness even if denied online access for a short time.

Is it scary that their descriptions don’t sound all that bizarre?

The survey, carried out by consumer research firm Intersperience, comes after a study this year by University of Maryland scientists that determined that many of us suffer withdrawal symptoms when we go without our gadgets, and research this year by Columbia University psychologists that found that the use of the Google search engine is rewiring our brains.

99 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 4:47:53am

re: #97 RogueOne

Isn't coke basically just a weak version of meth? If you want speed, go straight to the source.

There was coke way before meth, IIRC. Meth is more of a chemical experiment where coke, while processed with chemicals, is a natural plant.

100 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 4:49:02am

re: #96 iceweasel

Heroin? Well, it's good to shoot for the stars.
///

101 darthstar  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 4:49:38am

re: #97 RogueOne

Isn't coke basically just a weak version of meth? If you want speed, go straight to the source.

Meth is scary shit. You just don't come down from that stuff for days. I made the mistake of treating it like coke...twice. Both times I didn't sleep for 3 to 4 days.

Coke metabolizes much faster. You just want to keep bumping yourself back up when you do it, which is why it's such an expensive habit.

102 RogueOne  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 4:49:53am

re: #96 iceweasel

I'm somewhat amazed by how many people here have coke experience. I only tried it twice when I was a teenager and it really didn't do anything for me. My heart felt like it would leap out of my chest but that's about it.

If I were ever to have a drug problem it would be heroin. I've never done it but I've been given morphine-ish stuff while in hospital and damn, I can see how that's addictive.

oxycontin addiction (hillbilly heroin) is a fairly big problem around here. I tried it once, to see what all the hype was about, and hated it. Sat on the couch staring at the wall for 12 hours too screwed up to move. HATED it.

103 AK-47%  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 4:49:59am

re: #97 RogueOne

Isn't coke basically just a weak version of meth? If you want speed, go straight to the source.

I worked with some guys at a graphics agency in Frankfurt who would sit up all night snorting away and cranking out projects. I was responsible for the day shift, as they never showed up before 4pm.

I came in one morning at 8am to find the place a total mess, the courier waiting to collect the CD that they had burned, and the fellows to baked to find it under the piles of papers, pizza boxes and sundry crap all over their desks...they missed the deadline and had all kinds of grief over it.

104 The Left  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 4:49:59am

re: #100 Cannadian Club Akbar

Heroin? Well, it's good to shoot for the stars.
///

Well, there's a reason why I would stay far, far away from it. :)

105 darthstar  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 4:50:40am

re: #98 iceweasel

Internet deprivation feels 'like having [a] hand chopped off,' study says

I can give up the internet any time I want. I just woke up at 4:30 today because I went to bed early...that's all...really.

106 The Left  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 4:51:03am

re: #102 RogueOne

oxycontin addiction (hillbilly heroin) is a fairly big problem around here. I tried it once, to see what all the hype was about, and hated it. Sat on the couch staring at the wall for 12 hours too screwed up to move. HATED it.

Sounds awful!

107 AK-47%  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 4:51:11am

re: #102 RogueOne

oxycontin addiction (hillbilly heroin) is a fairly big problem around here. I tried it once, to see what all the hype was about, and hated it. Sat on the couch staring at the wall for 12 hours too screwed up to move. HATED it.


Had a similar experience with methadone once. But I remember really enjoying codeine when I had it prescribed for a bout of pleurisy.

108 kirkspencer  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 4:52:09am

re: #97 RogueOne

Isn't coke basically just a weak version of meth? If you want speed, go straight to the source.

Coke is a short hard burn, meth is a longer, lower burn.

Shots of bourbon vs bottles of beer for clumsy analogue.

109 RogueOne  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 4:52:19am

re: #101 darthstar

Meth is scary shit. You just don't come down from that stuff for days. I made the mistake of treating it like coke...twice. Both times I didn't sleep for 3 to 4 days.

Coke metabolizes much faster. You just want to keep bumping yourself back up when you do it, which is why it's such an expensive habit.

I moved out west for a couple years a little more than a decade ago. No one around here, other than bikers and truckers, used meth but everyone out there did. Meth was easier to find than weed. I tried it a few times, and liked it, so I stopped playing with it.

110 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 4:53:35am

GO OLD GUY!!!

111 RogueOne  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 4:55:12am

re: #107 ralphieboy

Had a similar experience with methadone once. But I remember really enjoying codeine when I had it prescribed for a bout of pleurisy.

I can't stand pain pills, most of them make me sick. I like weed because I can control the dosage much better than pills or alcohol. I don't want it to come across like I'm a pot head. I bought a 1/2 oz almost 2 months ago and still have some left.

112 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 4:55:19am

re: #108 kirkspencer

Coke is a short hard burn, meth is a longer, lower burn.

Shots of bourbon vs bottles of beer for clumsy analogue.

I consider booze a alcohol concentrate.

113 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 4:55:52am

re: #111 RogueOne

I can't stand pain pills, most of them make me sick. I like weed because I can control the dosage much better than pills or alcohol. I don't want it to come across like I'm a pot head. I bought a 1/2 oz almost 2 months ago and still have some left.

Then roll one ya fuckin' bogart!
/

114 darthstar  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 4:56:21am

re: #110 Cannadian Club Akbar

GO OLD GUY!!!

West Virginia State Police continue to look for an older model Chevy S-10 riddled by shotgun blasts.


Boy, talk about trying to find a needle in a haystack.

115 The Left  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 4:56:25am

Dead Guy Wakes Up in Morgue

116 RogueOne  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 4:56:55am

re: #113 Cannadian Club Akbar

Then roll one ya fuckin' bogart!
/

Can't, work to do. Speaking of which I gotta run. Enjoy the day folks!

117 AK-47%  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 4:57:35am

re: #116 RogueOne

Can't, work to do. Speaking of which I gotta run. Enjoy the day folks!

Just leave it on the coffee table next to the brownies...

118 darthstar  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 4:57:43am

re: #113 Cannadian Club Akbar

Then roll one ya fuckin' bogart!
/

We have procedures here...please obey the house rules.

119 Shropshire_Slasher  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 4:58:53am

re: #47 ralphieboy
Do you know whats gross?! Watching the local turd herder suck out the blue lagoon (porta-potty) eating a sammich.

URP

120 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 4:59:44am

re: #119 Shropshire_Slasher

Do you know whats gross?! Watching the local turd herder suck out the blue lagoon (porta-potty) eating a sammich.

URP

It's funny because it's true.

121 dell*nix  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 5:00:13am

Just an interesting Leonard Cohen song. Seems fitting somehow.

Youtube Video
122 The Left  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 5:00:57am

re: #121 dell*nix

Just an interesting Leonard Cohen song. Seems fitting somehow.

[Video]

Auto-upding for Leonard Cohen.

123 kirkspencer  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 5:01:54am

re: #120 Cannadian Club Akbar

It's funny because it's true.

Iron stomach test. Finish plate of sausage and eggs while awakened roommates suffer for night of excess drinking.

124 AK-47%  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 5:04:35am

re: #123 kirkspencer

Iron stomach test. Finish plate of sausage and eggs while awakened roommates suffer for night of excess drinking.

Especially if the eggs are a bit on the runny side...

126 kirkspencer  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 5:12:53am

re: #124 ralphieboy

Especially if the eggs are a bit on the runny side...

now remember the test isn't of your roommates. it's yours - you must consume against the tide.

If you can manage, however, you can bring the victims to the edge for years just by reminiscing a bit.

127 Decatur Deb  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 5:15:56am

re: #110 Cannadian Club Akbar

GO OLD GUY!!!

Story is a home-defense fail. Didn't repel anything. Good spirit, though.

128 sattv4u2  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 5:18:04am

re: #127 Decatur Deb

Story is a home-defense fail. Didn't repel anything. Good spirit, though.

Not a total fail

I'll wager there are three pairs of underwear that are now unusable!

129 Varek Raith  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 5:20:17am

BP Announces ‘Disappointing’ Profits Of $5.6 Billion

Man, I wish I could earn 5.6 billion so that I can know disappointment!

130 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 5:21:47am

[Link: www.huffingtonpost.com...]

I'll pinch hit for RogueOne. Dude had 4 ribs broke and a punctured lung. And then the charges were dropped.

131 Decatur Deb  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 5:22:10am

re: #128 sattv4u2

Not a total fail

I'll wager there are three pairs of underwear that are now unusable!

A big dog somewhere in the mix might have improved the outcome.

132 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 5:23:05am

re: #127 Decatur Deb

Story is a home-defense fail. Didn't repel anything. Good spirit, though.

Well, he gets points since he was tied up and pretty much turning it into a Hollywood script.

133 Decatur Deb  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 5:24:08am

re: #132 Cannadian Club Akbar

Well, he gets points since he was tied up and pretty much turning it into a Hollywood script.

'Natural Born Killers' or 'Dukes of Hazzard'?

134 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 5:25:49am

re: #133 Decatur Deb

'Natural Born Killers' or 'Dukes of Hazzard'?

"My Name is Earl".:)

135 Decatur Deb  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 5:26:16am

re: #134 Cannadian Club Akbar

"My Name is Earl".:)

Needs moar blonde.

136 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 5:35:28am

Morning Lizardim. Looks like another round of summer thunderstorms is about to plow over the wild north country. Of course. Just when I was ready to head out and start on the yard work.

137 sattv4u2  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 5:36:23am

re: #136 thedopefishlives

Morning Lizardim. Looks like another round of summer thunderstorms is about to plow over the wild north country. Of course. Just when I was ready to head out and start on the yard work.

Do it anyway!

Live on the edge

Make sure you carry a metal rake with you

138 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 5:39:47am

re: #137 sattv4u2

Do it anyway!

Live on the edge

Make sure you carry a metal rake with you

Or a helmet. This would work considering where he lives.
Image: AD254.jpg

139 sattv4u2  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 5:40:16am

re: #138 Cannadian Club Akbar

Or a helmet. This would work considering where he lives.
Image: AD254.jpg

shocking!

140 Lidane  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 5:42:46am

re: #136 thedopefishlives

Looks like another round of summer thunderstorms is about to plow over the wild north country. Of course. Just when I was ready to head out and start on the yard work.

Send those storms this way. According to the weather guy on TV this morning, Austin is entering its sixth straight week of 100+ degree heat, and we're something like 10 inches behind schedule on rain for this time of year.

Summer thunderstorms would be a good thing here.

141 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 5:44:14am

re: #138 Cannadian Club Akbar

Or a helmet. This would work considering where he lives.
Image: AD254.jpg

One wonders if those Capital One commercials were shot using Minnesota natives./

142 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 5:44:18am

I've never been married, but I think this would sum up the conversation.

Youtube Video
143 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 5:44:48am

re: #140 Lidane

Send those storms this way. According to the weather guy on TV this morning, Austin is entering its sixth straight week of 100+ degree heat, and we're something like 10 inches behind schedule on rain for this time of year.

Summer thunderstorms would be a good thing here.

Believe me, if I could, I would. Unfortunately, my unlicensed copy of the George W. Bush Weather Control Device is not functioning right now.

144 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 5:45:38am

re: #143 thedopefishlives

Believe me, if I could, I would. Unfortunately, my unlicensed copy of the George W. Bush Weather Control Device is not functioning right now.

Call Jesse Ventura for the password.
/

145 sattv4u2  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 5:46:56am

re: #142 Cannadian Club Akbar

I've never been married, but I think this would sum up the conversation.

[Video]

Good start

Boy already has a tattoo,,barefoot with jean shorts, looks like they live in a double wide ,,,

What could possibly go wrong!?!?

146 sattv4u2  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 5:48:07am

re: #141 thedopefishlives

One wonders if those Capital One commercials were shot using Minnesota natives./

You Betchya!

148 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 5:50:29am

Party like an animal!!

149 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 5:52:59am

They've got the biggest balls of them all!

150 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 5:54:57am

re: #149 thedopefishlives

That bus stop is a bitch to navigate.
/

151 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 5:58:45am

re: #150 Cannadian Club Akbar

That bus stop is a bitch to navigate.
/

Yeah, totally gotta watch out for those bomb crater holes that open up right in front of you on a blackout night.

152 sattv4u2  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 6:03:55am

re: #150 Cannadian Club Akbar

That bus stop is a bitch to navigate.
/

Looks like the potholes I used to have to negotiate along Alford Street between Everett and Charlestown Mass during the winter/spring!

153 Gretchen G.Tiger  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 6:08:13am

Hey all!

How is the day going?

154 sattv4u2  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 6:08:38am

re: #153 ggt

Hey all!

How is the day going?

ticking right along

155 Gretchen G.Tiger  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 6:12:36am

looks like Chicagoland isn't to get the storms until tomorrow.

OMG, I slept wrong or something--have the worst headache.

156 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 6:13:19am

re: #153 ggt

Hey all!

How is the day going?

It is going. That's more than I could say for yesterday.

157 reine.de.tout  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 6:14:22am

Good morning, honcos!

Spent yesterday moving daughter into her new digs. Much appreciation to the Mexican maintenance workers on a break who volunteered to help us move the heavy stuff out of the truck and up the stairs. I don't know how we would have done it otherwise. We have a few things to finish up today, then I can start putting my own house back in order - my daughter has a tendency to spread out so that all available space is used up. That said - I already miss her like crazy, and she's only 15 minutes away!

158 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 6:14:55am

re: #155 ggt

looks like Chicagoland isn't to get the storms until tomorrow.

OMG, I slept wrong or something--have the worst headache.

Beer? Wine? Booze? Beer/wine/booze mixed together?
/

159 Decatur Deb  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 6:17:58am

re: #157 reine.de.tout

Good morning, honcos!

Spent yesterday moving daughter into her new digs. Much appreciation to the Mexican maintenance workers on a break who volunteered to help us move the heavy stuff out of the truck and up the stairs. I don't know how we would have done it otherwise. We have a few things to finish up today, then I can start putting my own house back in order - my daughter has a tendency to spread out so that all available space is used up. That said - I already miss her like crazy, and she's only 15 minutes away!

Freshman year: Too Far!!
Sophomore year: Just Right.
Junior year: Too Close?
Senior Year: Moving stuff back by Christmas.

160 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 6:18:43am

re: #157 reine.de.tout

She'll be back for food, laundry day, cash, fixmycar.

161 sattv4u2  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 6:20:26am

re: #160 Cannadian Club Akbar

She'll be back for CASh food, CASH laundry day, cash, fixmycar. CASH


and cash

162 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 6:23:17am

re: #161 sattv4u2

and cash

If I were you, I'd have your son save the receipts from the food he buys when he leaves and itemize your taxes.

163 Gretchen G.Tiger  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 6:24:24am

re: #158 Cannadian Club Akbar

Beer? Wine? Booze? Beer/wine/booze mixed together?
/

No, just dinner. Pasta, got home, tired from the heat, and went to lay down for a while at about 8 and woke-up this morning about 7. Bizarre, I had to figure-out what day it was when I woke-up.

I took some allergy meds, hopefully that will take care of the headache.

164 garhighway  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 6:26:28am

Morning, all.

Here is a remarkable bit of law enforcement weirdness:

[Link: www.nytimes.com...]

Summary: A police impersonator is accused of rape by his ex-gf, so he frames her for a series of armed robberies.

Sample:

Soon after Seemona Sumasar started dating Jerry Ramrattan, she had an inkling that something might be wrong.

He said he was a police detective, but never seemed to go to work. He seemed obsessed with “C.S.I.,” “Law & Order” and other television police dramas.

About a year after he moved into her house in Queens, their relationship soured. One day, he cornered her, taped her mouth and raped her, she said. Mr. Ramrattan was arrested.

But he soon took his revenge, the authorities said. Drawing on his knowledge of police procedure, gleaned from his time as an informer for law enforcement, he accomplished what prosecutors in New York called one of the most elaborate framing plots that they had ever seen.

165 sattv4u2  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 6:26:58am

re: #163 ggt

I took some allergy meds, hopefully that will take care of the headache.

I stopped reading CCA's post which did it for me!!

//

166 darthstar  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 6:27:07am

re: #158 Cannadian Club Akbar

Beer? Wine? Booze? Beer/wine/booze mixed together?
/

It's nice to know I can go back to sleep for an hour and not miss anything.

167 Gretchen G.Tiger  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 6:27:15am

Curious Lurker posted a great Page about Multi-culturalism.

Anyone remember the "Legal" link posted about it --i can't remember if it was Standford or what. I'd like to re-read it and perhaps add it to the posts on Curious Lurker's Page.

168 Gretchen G.Tiger  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 6:28:58am

Still on my first cuppa --maybe it will also help the headache. I went almost 12 hours without coffee -could be the cause.

:)

169 Gretchen G.Tiger  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 6:30:06am

Remember Herbie?

He still has a fan club.

170 Gretchen G.Tiger  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 6:31:24am

complete with instructions on how to build your own Herbie.

171 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 6:31:34am

re: #169 ggt

Remember Herbie?

He still has a fan club.

I was thinking of Herbie the Dentist from Rudolf the Red Nosed Reindeer.

172 garhighway  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 6:32:33am

One more NYT clip, this from Joe Nocera. Wells fargo got a slap on the wrist for its subprime misbehavior, and he's pissed about it:

[Link: www.nytimes.com...]

Sample:

Yet, for anyone still hoping for justice in the wake of the financial crisis, the news was hardly encouraging. First, the Fed did not force Wells Fargo to admit guilt — and even let the company issue a press release blaming its wrongdoing on a “relatively small group.” The $85 million fine was a joke; in just the last quarter, Wells Fargo’s revenues exceeded $20 billion. And compensating borrowers isn’t going to hurt much either. By my calculation, it won’t top $20 million.

Most upsetting of all, the settlement raises the question that just won’t go away: Why can’t the federal government prosecute financial wrongdoers?

173 reine.de.tout  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 6:32:42am

re: #167 ggt

Curious Lurker posted a great Page about Multi-culturalism.

Anyone remember the "Legal" link posted about it --i can't remember if it was Standford or what. I'd like to re-read it and perhaps add it to the posts on Curious Lurker's Page.

It was jaunte who posted that link, day before yesterday, I think. Search for his comments and you should find it.

174 sattv4u2  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 6:35:56am

re: #170 ggt

complete with instructions on how to build your own Herbie.

thats what you kids are calling it nowadays?

It does roll off the tongue nicely

"President Clinton has admitted he received a Herbie from an intern ,,,"

175 Gretchen G.Tiger  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 6:41:54am

re: #174 sattv4u2

thats what you kids are calling it nowadays?

It does roll off the tongue nicely

"President Clinton has admitted he received a Herbie from an intern ,,,"

I think you are right about that.

:)

176 garhighway  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 6:42:07am

Showing that he isn't as dumb as he seems, Herman Cain canceled his upcoming appearance on The Colbert Report. That's a shame: it would have been epic.

[Link: tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com...]

177 darthstar  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 6:43:12am

re: #174 sattv4u2


"President Clinton has admitted he received a Herbie from an intern ,,,"

because he could.

178 Killgore Trout  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 6:43:45am

Jihad watch....

I have no proof that Breivik is a secret Muslim convert, Marxist operative, or deep-cover agent of some European security service. It may be that Breivik is one of those people who can compartmentalize reality, who can read sane and prudent arguments against the radical transformation of a continent and its culture with one part of his brain, and with the other cook up a murder fantasy that will make his mark in history. Perhaps he is, like the Unabomber, a failed intellectual who is driven by resentment and vainglory to force the people of the world to read his neglected “masterpiece” by underlining his words in blood. We might not know until 30 years from now, when the Eurabian Union springs him from jail and gives him a medal.


Idiots.

179 Gretchen G.Tiger  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 6:46:21am

re: #173 reine.de.tout

It was jaunte who posted that link, day before yesterday, I think. Search for his comments and you should find it.

Yes, thank you. I found it. The link is from Stanford.

180 Daniel Ballard  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 6:46:29am

So we all remember the Chilean miner rescue? It's going to be made into a feature film. By the maker of The Black Swan. I'm thinking he better bring in the Harry Potter movie crew. They know how to make a movie interesting even when everyone already knows the ending.

181 Daniel Ballard  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 6:46:42am

re: #180 Rightwingconspirator

So we all remember the Chilean miner rescue? It's going to be made into a feature film. By the maker of The Black Swan. I'm thinking he better bring in the Harry Potter movie crew. They know how to make a movie interesting even when everyone already knows the ending.

Miner Miracle?

182 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 6:47:31am

re: #181 Rightwingconspirator

Miner Miracle?

*WHACK!*

183 Gretchen G.Tiger  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 6:48:10am

re: #178 Killgore Trout

Jihad watch...


Idiots.

"He can't be a rwnj, he just can't be. There fore he must be a secret mooslim."

The mental gymastics astounds.

184 darthstar  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 6:48:48am

re: #178 Killgore Trout

Jihad watch...


Idiots.


Sorry, suckers...you're joined at the hip with Brievik...forever.

185 sattv4u2  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 6:49:11am

re: #180 Rightwingconspirator

So we all remember the Chilean miner rescue? It's going to be made into a feature film. By the maker of The Black Swan. I'm thinking he better bring in the Harry Potter movie crew. They know how to make a movie interesting even when everyone already knows the ending.

Nah ,, it'll be an underground production!

186 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 6:49:31am

re: #180 Rightwingconspirator

I'm shocked it took this long. I figured they'd start shooting the film before the rescue took place.

187 Gretchen G.Tiger  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 6:52:46am

The fear that the Whacko Jihadi's will win an take over the planet is just a little, well, stupid. The whole planet submitting to Extreme Sharia? We can't even get the whole planet to eat their vegetables.

We can't get the young people in even one State to use contraception consistently.

While it is a big concern, so is Whacko Christian Theocracy, so is Energy, so is, so is, so is . . . . .

188 kirkspencer  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 6:52:50am

re: #184 darthstar

Sorry, suckers...you're joined at the hip with Brievik...forever.

Or at least so long as "those who tolerate and allow muslims within our borders must be converted or removed" is part of their objective.

189 McSpiff  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 6:55:57am

re: #187 ggt

Yep. Its up there with the Super Seekrit Jewish Cabal running the world. This manifesto might as well be the Protocols of Zion.

190 Gretchen G.Tiger  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 6:56:46am

I think the question is more like:

Why are people choosing fundamentalism?

The world is changing very, very fast. People who can't keep-up or are other wise confused can find a certain sanity in the basics of their faith. It is comforting and for the most part good for families.

It's the intolerance of other ways of living that isn't good. The idea that everyone must be converted that comes with "some" versions of fundamentalism.

EVERYONE DOESN'T HAVE TO BELIEVE THE SAME THING OR LIVE THE SAME WAY.

The only thing EVERYONE must do (besides stay black and die) is FOLLOW THE LAW.

191 Daniel Ballard  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 6:57:50am

re: #186 Cannadian Club Akbar

In a way they did. Lots of video was shot, lots in HD I'd guess especially after the international news teams got there. I think Hollywood accounting better not screw these guys like they have in some famous instances.

192 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 6:57:56am

re: #189 McSpiff

Yep. Its up there with the Super Seekrit Jewish Cabal running the world. This manifesto might as well be the Protocols of Zion.

According to AJ's site, Oslodouche is a Freemason Super Zionist. not kidding.

193 Gretchen G.Tiger  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 6:59:17am

re: #189 McSpiff

Yep. Its up there with the Super Seekrit Jewish Cabal running the world. This manifesto might as well be the Protocols of Zion.

If I've read my history correctly, countries that accept the Jews seem to be better off in many ways than those that don't.

Perhaps it's proof of the benefits of multiculturalism.

194 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 7:00:00am

re: #191 Rightwingconspirator

I was taught the minute you see some tragedy with a happy ending you get on a plane and try to secure the rights to the story. Although this is a bit more tricky.

195 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 7:00:25am

re: #193 ggt

If I've read my history correctly, countries that accept the Jews seem to be better off in many ways than those that don't.

Perhaps it's proof of the benefits of multiculturalism.

But multiculturalism is a failure, didn't you get the memo?

/Channeling the discussion from a couple of days ago
///

196 Gretchen G.Tiger  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 7:01:03am

re: #195 thedopefishlives

But multiculturalism is a failure, didn't you get the memo?

/Channeling the discussion from a couple of days ago
///

I got it and decided to recycle it.

197 AK-47%  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 7:01:24am

re: #190 ggt

The only thing EVERYONE must do (besides stay black and die) is FOLLOW THE LAW.

It is the old "you are free to excercise your freedoms to the extent that you do not restrict or endanger the rights of others" riff

198 Gretchen G.Tiger  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 7:02:25am

re: #197 ralphieboy

It is the old "you are free to excercise your freedoms to the extent that you do not restrict or endanger the rights of others" riff

"Homosexuality is bad and should be illegal, but I can have my rent boys, it's none of your business." meme?

199 AK-47%  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 7:03:23am

re: #193 ggt

If I've read my history correctly, countries that accept the Jews seem to be better off in many ways than those that don't.

Perhaps it's proof of the benefits of multiculturalism.

Experience has show that nations that f*ck with the Jews get their butts kicked. Divine retribution? Jewish-Masonic cabal? Who knows. But mess with them at your own peril.

200 AK-47%  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 7:04:00am

re: #198 ggt

"Homosexuality is bad and should be illegal, but I can have my rent boys, it's none of your business." meme?

They were discussing scripture.

201 McSpiff  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 7:04:51am

re: #193 ggt

If I've read my history correctly, countries that accept the Jews seem to be better off in many ways than those that don't.

Perhaps it's proof of the benefits of multiculturalism.

Jews certainly, but there's a few other groups that stand out in my mind too. My city wouldn't be the same without Persians, Lebanese or Polish either.

202 Gretchen G.Tiger  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 7:04:52am

re: #200 ralphieboy

They were discussing scripture.

ah!

Song of Soloman?

203 Gretchen G.Tiger  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 7:05:46am

re: #201 McSpiff

Jews certainly, but there's a few other groups that stand out in my mind too. My city wouldn't be the same without Persians, Lebanese or Polish either.

Lebanese food!

OMG, we have the best Lebanese restaurant down the road (well about 10 miles).

204 darthstar  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 7:05:53am

It's too bad they don't make some kind of device that has a needle floating above a magnet that can tell you which way is north and which way is south...

Death Valley Ranger Charlie Callagan says Cooper is not the only visitor who's relied on GPS and been seriously lost. It happens a couple times a year now.

205 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 7:07:29am

re: #204 darthstar

It's too bad they don't make some kind of device that has a needle floating above a magnet that can tell you which way is north and which way is south...

You can float a leaf in water with a needle on it and do the same thing.

206 Gretchen G.Tiger  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 7:08:51am

re: #204 darthstar

It's too bad they don't make some kind of device that has a needle floating above a magnet that can tell you which way is north and which way is south...

I freakin' hate the GPS. Give me a map and a compass and I'm good to go.

207 AK-47%  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 7:11:52am

re: #202 ggt

ah!

Song of Soloman?


Song of Sodomy

208 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 7:14:47am

re: #204 darthstar

It's too bad they don't make some kind of device that has a needle floating above a magnet that can tell you which way is north and which way is south...

Learning to read a map is probably the most valuable skill my dad ever taught me. I have a GPS, but I never use it - I rely on my truck's built-in compass and Google Maps to get me where I'm going. If that fails, I have a city atlas in the glovebox.

209 Gretchen G.Tiger  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 7:15:05am

Anyone read this?

210 Killgore Trout  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 7:15:23am

EDL denies links to Norwegian gunman Anders Breivik (video)

211 Gretchen G.Tiger  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 7:17:02am

re: #208 thedopefishlives

Learning to read a map is probably the most valuable skill my dad ever taught me. I have a GPS, but I never use it - I rely on my truck's built-in compass and Google Maps to get me where I'm going. If that fails, I have a city atlas in the glovebox.

I have the 5-county Rand McNally somewhere in my car. My car is really my xtra closet. I've lived here long enough that I rarely need it anymore and I can usually figure out which way is North now.

My new to me car doesn't have the built-in compass, so I bought one and promptly ruined it by placing in the wrong place on the dash. Something messed-up the magnet.

212 Killgore Trout  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 7:18:27am

Norway killer: English Defence League leader 'never met Anders Behring Breivik'

Breivik wrote of having strong links with the EDL, saying he had met its leaders and had 600 EDL members as Facebook friends.

Mr Hobson said in an online posting that: “He had about 150 EDL on his list … bar one or two doubt the rest of us ever met him, altho [sic] he did come over for one of our demo [sic] in 2010 … but what he did was wrong. RIP to all who died as a result of his actions.”

Another senior member of the EDL, who spoke to The Daily Telegraph on condition of anonymity, said he understood Breivik had met EDL leaders when he came to Britain to hear Wilders speak in London last year.

“I spoke to him a few times on Facebook and he is extremely intelligent and articulate and very affable,” said the source. “He is someone who can project himself very well and I presume there would be those within the EDL who would be quite taken by that. It’s like Hitler, people said he was hypnotic. This guy had the same sort of effect.”

The source said Breivik began making friend requests with EDL members on Facebook in 2009 and knew “three or four” people in the group.

213 Gus  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 7:19:17am

re: #178 Killgore Trout

Jihad watch...

Idiots.

Eurabian Union? Yes, I see, Robert Spencer is spreading paranoid red meat for his equally paranoid readership. The next day after he plays coy on NBC Nightly News. Now wait? Is that Robert Spencer or is that him hiding behind the "pen name" mask of "Roland Shirk." Perhaps another idiot savant such as the white supremacist Fjordman. See JihadWatch Calls for Unconstitutional Reforms to Ghettoize Muslims, Sparks Genocidal Rage Among Readers.

If the influx is stopped in the next few years, and Western societies overcome the self-gelding political correctness and hysterical scrupulosity that drives them to hold their own societies to an inhuman standard of Kantian selflessness–while endlessly indulging the sins of newcomers–it’s possible that we will keep our freedoms intact without a major violent confrontation. For that to happen, we’d need to slam shut our borders, cut welfare programs that allow recent immigrants to breed irresponsibly on the taxpayers’ dime, rigorously enforce laws suppressing sedition, infiltrate and expose terror networks already in our midst, and push back hard against attempts to force an alien religion into our cultural mainstream.

We’d essentially have to reduce Islamic enclaves to the condition of the Basques–midsized, deeply disgruntled minorities treasuring claims against our territory, without the power to do much more than disrupt the peace, and occasionally murder some policemen. (Of course, the Basques have old, and in some ways legitimate grievances, since they really were here first–while the Muslims have none–but that’s not really the issue.)

Neo-fascists like Spencer, "Shirk", and Geller are about as un-American as you can get. They remain only six degrees away from Breivik and will no doubt foster another monster like Breivik in our time.

214 Gus  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 7:22:53am

In other news...

What Would Joe Sixpack Do?
What it works out to, on average, is this: Joe Sixpack has an income to debt ratio of about 650%.

Joe Sixpack has all kinds of great ideas for running the country.

Maybe we could apply those ideas to Joe’s household, after all turnabout is fair play, right?

For example, the first thing old Joe Sixpack should do is take a vow to never raise his income level. Ever. $46K per year and not a penny more, swear to Jesus. No matter what.

He should start referring to his unemployed wife as a “lazy socialist parasite.” When the kids ask for allowances, Joe can explain how that kind of “redistribution of wealth” is anti-American.

Fifty-six percent of the household budget would be spent on guns.

Instead of cutting back on cable or cell phones or eating out six nights a week or those jet skis or, god forbid, buying a few less guns each month, Joe decides to cut his grandmother’s medical coverage.

At least one member of the family goes to bed hungry every night, while the rest are overweight and throw food away.

Joe’s daughter gets raped one night, and he explains how it’s her fault for looking like a tart, the resulting unwanted pregnancy is God’s will and besides motherhood will build character. Oh, by the way, get out, because Joe sure as hell isn’t paying for that baby. Oh and by the way, have fun with the cervical cancer since, in addition to the whole rape thing God wanted you to have, he was also apparently against the HPV vaccine. None of which has anything whatsoever to do with balancing the household’s budget, but Joe feels that arguing about it, along with condemning other members of the family to hell, is important.

Read the whole thing.

215 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 7:23:44am

re: #207 ralphieboy

Song of Sodomy

This one?

Youtube Video
216 Killgore Trout  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 7:23:49am

re: #213 Gus 802

This is so frustrating because it was so easy to see this coming. Geert, Dewinter, Sweden Dems, EDL. It was all so obvious. Even now they're still in denial about who they're associated with and what they've become. They just can't see it.

217 Gretchen G.Tiger  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 7:24:15am

It is so hard for me to understand this "European" point of view. As an American, I don't have 4000+ of cultural history tied to a certain location on the globe.

American's have 200+ years of everyone's culture.

There are certain cultures that only survive in the US. Someone told me once that what we consider "traditional Irish Food" isn't served in Ireland. I wonder what else we have that other's longer have.

218 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 7:24:49am

re: #210 Killgore Trout

EDL denies links to Norwegian gunman Anders Breivik (video)

They're in the spotlight and that is good.

219 lawhawk  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 7:30:39am

re: #212 Killgore Trout

He didn't meet with the EDL, except for all those he did meet with.

Heh.

220 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 7:31:03am

re: #219 lawhawk

He didn't meet with the EDL, except for all those he did meet with.

Heh.

It depends on what the meaning of "is" is.

221 AK-47%  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 7:31:20am

re: #219 lawhawk

He didn't meet with the EDL, except for all those he did meet with.

Heh.


Isolated incidents, and they only talked about professional sports and the weather.

223 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 7:34:22am

re: #222 Killgore Trout

Beck: If We Can't Use Hitler Analogies In "Logical Conversation," "We Are Going To Be A Society Of Gas Chambers"

Wow. Someone turned his crazy knob to 11. We can't use Hitler analogies because, umm, _nothing is as bad as Hitler._

224 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 7:34:38am

re: #222 Killgore Trout

We can use Hitler analogies responsibly. But when Beck calls the murdered kids members of Hitlerjugend, he is no better than Goebbels.

225 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 7:35:14am

re: #223 thedopefishlives

_nothing is as bad as Hitler._


That's quite an exaggeration.

226 Gus  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 7:35:25am

re: #222 Killgore Trout

Beck: If We Can't Use Hitler Analogies In "Logical Conversation," "We Are Going To Be A Society Of Gas Chambers"

LOL Too funny. It never stops. Beck goes from one whacked out illogical conclusion to another. The ignorant leader of an ignorant revanchist population in America.

227 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 7:36:57am

re: #225 Sergey Romanov

That's quite an exaggeration.

It's not as big an exaggeration as you might think. Hitler is, effectively, the Big Bad of the modern era. Even though there are more murderous dictators out there - Stalin, for one - Hitler is the very face of pure unadulterated evil. If you're going to compare someone or something to Hitler, you're effectively saying it is the be-all, end-all of evil incarnate. That's a big stretch for most.

228 Gretchen G.Tiger  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 7:36:59am

Beck

gah!

I thought this guy's show was cancelled.

229 Gus  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 7:39:17am

Glenn Beck doing his best Lyndon LaRouche imitation.

230 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 7:39:32am

re: #227 thedopefishlives

> there are more murderous dictators

Exactly. Therefore the statement "nothing is as bad as Hitler" is incorrect.

Moreover, yes, there can be responsible comparison to Hitler, to Nazis and whatnot - namely, to their ideology as well as to their early stages, before they started killing people, but had already said and wrote enough to understand that is what one expect from them.

231 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 7:42:10am

re: #230 Sergey Romanov

I'm not disagreeing that we can't responsibly use the analogies, but I think we can all agree that the Nazi card is vastly overplayed these days and that one should exercise a fair bit of caution before Godwin'ing a discussion. Sure, it can be legitimate sometimes, but my point is that those times are (or should be) very, very rare.

232 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 7:42:11am

re: #230 Sergey Romanov

I.e. when Putin's youth movements like "Nashi" are called Putinjugend (as they are called by many in Russia) I can only agree and repeat such designation. Even though they killed no one.

233 Gretchen G.Tiger  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 7:42:31am

Lawyer says ABB is insane.

Legally or Medically?

234 Killgore Trout  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 7:43:14am

Pat Buchanan: "Breivik May Be Right"

As for a climactic conflict between a once-Christian West and an Islamic world that is growing in numbers and advancing inexorably into Europe for the third time in 14 centuries, on this one, Breivik may be right.

Published at WND, and even more mainstream conservative sites like Townhall....
A Fire Bell in the Night for Norway
Comments.....
Earth to Norway: Run the Islamic Jihad out of town before its too late.

Earth to US: Run the Islamic Jihad out of town before its too late.
.....
That is the real fire bell in Europe. Yes Islam is a problem, but it is socilaism that is causing most of the murders.
....
EVICT 'BELIEVERS' IN ISLAM FROM ALL OF EUROPE

That's the final and fair solution which prevents another "Breivic" incident.

Invite 'believers' to depart Europe and return to their nations in the Middle East where they can practice their anti-Christ belief system that poses as religion until Armageddon ends their centuries long charade.

235 Gretchen G.Tiger  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 7:44:16am

same link as #233.

He said his client believed that he was in a war and that he would be vindicated in 60 years' time.

A medical evaluation would be carried out to establish his psychiatric condition, Mr Lippestad added.

He said Mr Breivik had told him he was part of an anti-Islam network that had two cells in Norway and several more abroad.

Mr Lippestad also said that his client had used "some kind of drugs" before the crime.

236 kirkspencer  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 7:44:18am

re: #233 ggt

Lawyer says ABB is insane.

Legally or Medically?

When a defense attorney says that of his client, especially before testing, I'm just a wee bit skeptical.

237 Winny Spencer  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 7:45:01am

re: #233 ggt

Lawyer says ABB is insane.

Legally or Medically?

He's a lawyer. What does he know about anything.

238 Gretchen G.Tiger  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 7:46:44am

Well, I think we all agree that he is "not right in the head", but to whether he is technically "insane" is another matter.

I wonder what the legal requirements are in Norway.

239 Gus  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 7:47:20am

re: #234 Killgore Trout

May be right? Oh come on Mr. Buchanan. Be brave! Say what you really feel. That you think Breivik is 100 percent correct.

The truth is laid bare. Breivik is their mouthpiece.

240 Gretchen G.Tiger  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 7:47:49am

is "jello" a word in Scrabble?

241 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 7:48:52am

re: #239 Gus 802

Gotta collect all the statements some time. "Serious political thinker", "I agree with him", "maybe he was right", "his analysis is correct"... They secretly admire him.

242 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 7:50:31am

re: #241 Sergey Romanov

Gotta collect all the statements some time. "Serious political thinker", "I agree with him", "maybe he was right", "his analysis is correct"... They secretly admire him.

OK, scratch "secretly".

243 Gretchen G.Tiger  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 7:52:25am

re: #235 ggt

same link as #233.

"some kind of drug"

I have a hard time thinking he would pollute his perfect Aryan body with a drug.

I have some idea of what he should have been prescribed LONG before this incident.

244 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 7:53:16am

re: #243 ggt

At the very least he was taking steroids (as he writes). Maybe something else too, but I didn't pay attention.

245 Gretchen G.Tiger  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 7:53:43am

re: #244 Sergey Romanov

At the very least he was taking steroids (as he writes). Maybe something else too, but I didn't pay attention.

ah, I missed that.

246 lawhawk  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 7:54:03am

re: #233 ggt

A defense lawyer is going to do what he can to reduce his client's potential criminal liabilities - and that means suggesting that his client is insane or otherwise should have charges adjusted to reflect his mental capacity. I'd expect his team to request mental capacity hearings or its Norwegian equivalent, or to raise it at trial, though I don't think it will be ultimately successful.

From what I've read, this isn't the work of an insane individual; he clearly understands good and evil. It's that he sees his actions as ultimately good - protecting Norway from the "other" even though it means murdering dozens of defenseless kids and luring them to their death by wearing a police uniform.

247 kirkspencer  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 7:55:15am

I admit to a degree of amusement reading the Brievik Anthology (my name for it given how much is other people's writings).

The amusement comes from the way various authors tie themselves in knots over Jews.

The core message is: We must remove the great enemy from our nations. Islam must stopped at our borders but the great enemy is those who allow it in; multiculturists, liberals, non-christians, and feminists. (The last is always something about the feminisation of males makes them unable to resist -- they create the multiculturists and liberals.)

The Jewish issue occurs in the third element, the non-Christians. The usual solution is to claim Judeo-Christian culture is not multi-cultural, and the Jews are implied as part of the Christians -- except for the multiculturists and liberals and feminists. In other words, the usual solution is to say there are "good" and "bad" jews. (History rhymes, doncha know.)

248 Gus  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 7:55:19am

re: #241 Sergey Romanov

Gotta collect all the statements some time. "Serious political thinker", "I agree with him", "maybe he was right", "his analysis is correct"... They secretly admire him.

Breivik speaks their language. He was a student of their twisted anti-Jihad propaganda. They'll suggest that "he was right" and finish with essentially "it's too bad he killed people" -- is their a psychotherapist in the house? Meanwhile, Glenn Beck, a spiritual leader of the Republican Party, dismisses the dead children at Utoya as being just like "Hitler Nazi youth."

249 Gretchen G.Tiger  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 7:55:25am

re: #246 lawhawk

A defense lawyer is going to do what he can to reduce his client's potential criminal liabilities - and that means suggesting that his client is insane or otherwise should have charges adjusted to reflect his mental capacity. I'd expect his team to request mental capacity hearings or its Norwegian equivalent, or to raise it at trial, though I don't think it will be ultimately successful.

From what I've read, this isn't the work of an insane individual; he clearly understands good and evil. It's that he sees his actions as ultimately good - protecting Norway from the "other" even though it means murdering dozens of defenseless kids and luring them to their death by wearing a police uniform.

Who is paying this lawyer?

250 Kronocide  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 7:55:46am

And how many Muslims did Breivik kill?

251 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 7:56:02am

[imaginary moonbat]"Osama was a terrorist, of course. (Unless it was a false flag operation.) But his analysis of the decadent American society is correct."[/imaginary moonbat]

Imagine the reaction.

252 Gus  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 7:58:07am

re: #251 Sergey Romanov

[imaginary moonbat]"Osama was a terrorist, of course. (Unless it was a false flag operation.) But his analysis of the decadent American society is correct."[/imaginary moonbat]

Imagine the reaction.

Or that the 9/11 hijackers were "wrong" but their "motivation were correct". "Sooner or later there will be some blowback." But we can include Ron and Rand Paul into that mix.

253 Lidane  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 7:59:43am

re: #234 Killgore Trout

Pat Buchanan: "Breivik May Be Right"

Published at WND, and even more mainstream conservative sites like Townhall...

A Fire Bell in the Night for Norway

More proof that Crazy Uncle Pat is a fascist and always has been.

Garbage like this has been all over the right-wing blogosphere for the last ten years, especially after Obama got elected. It's not a surprise that it influenced Breivik. The only surprise is that it took so long for a disgruntled white guy to actually do what the howler monkeys on the right have been talking about for the last decade.

254 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 8:00:19am

re: #252 Gus 802

Or better yet, all those people were little Eichmanns so it's not a big deal.

Oh, wait. It happened. The guy was ostracized and some time later sacked for plagiarism.

255 Killgore Trout  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 8:01:30am

More support from townhall readers....

This may be the first loud call to European Social Democrats to stop the Muslim invasion of Europe and to preserve the Western culture, from being destroyed by the 14th century barbarism. Remember our resolve to defeat Nazism some 70 years ago? The brave Norwegian maritime marines and the Resistance fighters brought a shining glory to the country and people of Norway. What has recently become of Norwegians? Enough to mention their vicious anti-Semitism; their Nobels given to frauds like Gore, Obama and Krugman.
Breivik is obviously a murderer but by shooting Norway's future Socialists he meant to stop the process of degradation in his native country. His method is wrong but his stand is probably right.


....

Pat Buchanon... excellent column especially your final paragraph

"As for a climactic conflict between a once-Christian West and an Islamic world that is growing in numbers and advancing inexorably into Europe for the third time in 14 centuries, on this one, Breivik may be right".

Though a murderous fanatic.. on this one issue.. the ill of intent invasion of Europe by Islamics.. Breivik may be and likely is correct.

256 Gus  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 8:01:54am

re: #247 kirkspencer

I admit to a degree of amusement reading the Brievik Anthology (my name for it given how much is other people's writings).

The amusement comes from the way various authors tie themselves in knots over Jews.

The core message is: We must remove the great enemy from our nations. Islam must stopped at our borders but the great enemy is those who allow it in; multiculturists, liberals, non-christians, and feminists. (The last is always something about the feminisation of males makes them unable to resist -- they create the multiculturists and liberals.)

The Jewish issue occurs in the third element, the non-Christians. The usual solution is to claim Judeo-Christian culture is not multi-cultural, and the Jews are implied as part of the Christians -- except for the multiculturists and liberals and feminists. In other words, the usual solution is to say there are "good" and "bad" jews. (History rhymes, doncha know.)

The manifest for the "anti-Jihadist boxcar" is growing larger. It is very much like "at first they came for the Jews". Or in this case it is Muslims first. Next they've added liberals, leftists, multiculturalists, feminists, AGW proponents, etc. It is the old far-right at work once again. It's not just about Muslims -- as we've seen.

257 Killgore Trout  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 8:02:29am

re: #253 Lidane

More proof that Crazy Uncle Pat is a fascist and always has been.

Garbage like this has been all over the right-wing blogosphere for the last ten years, especially after Obama got elected. It's not a surprise that it influenced Breivik. The only surprise is that it took so long for a disgruntled white guy to actually do what the howler monkeys on the right have been talking about for the last decade.

I guess I'm a little surprised that they're now openly supporting the killer.

258 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 8:02:43am

Beck is Ward Churchill without a degree.

259 Lidane  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 8:03:22am

re: #255 Killgore Trout

More support from townhall readers...


...

Note that these people are agreeing with a mass murderer that slaughtered dozens of children just because his "manifesto" spoke their political language.

They're not pissed at him for what he did. They're not even pissed that he aimed his gun at kids, because those kids were at a liberal camp. If he'd bombed a mosque in the process they'd love him even more.

260 Lidane  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 8:04:32am

re: #257 Killgore Trout

I guess I'm a little surprised that they're now openly supporting the killer.

I'm not. They supported the asshole here in Austin who flew his plane into the IRS building. They supported the ideas that influenced McVeigh, but not his actions.

This is nothing new. The howler monkeys on the right have been like this for ages.

261 Kronocide  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 8:05:32am

The logical pretzel of '...stop Islam before there are more Breiviks' is profoundly stupid. If I interpret some comments correctly, this meme is being formed now, before the bodies are all in the ground.

262 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 8:06:10am

re: #257 Killgore Trout

I guess I'm a little surprised that they're now openly supporting the killer.

That makes two of us. I mean, we all expected his political manifesto to resonate with them; but for them to openly applaud his murderous actions? That takes a depraved mind on a scale that I can't even comprehend.

263 Gus  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 8:06:18am

Andrew Breivik is the far-right's new hero.

264 Gus  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 8:06:29am

Or Anders.

265 Lidane  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 8:06:42am

re: #261 BigPapa

The logical pretzel of '...stop Islam before there are more Breiviks' is profoundly stupid.

But don't you see? If there were no Muslims, he wouldn't have shot up and killed dozens of kids at a liberal camp.

It makes total sense if you're batshit insane.

///

266 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 8:07:01am

re: #264 Gus 802

Or Anders.

Well, he did call himself "Andrew Bervick".

267 Gretchen G.Tiger  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 8:07:18am

Some children go out into the world and say, "Wow, cool!

Some go out into the world and say, "This is scary".

Others go out into the world and say, "Ok, fine, whatever."

I think I can just about tell you which grew-up and became rwnjs.

268 Killgore Trout  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 8:07:58am

re: #261 BigPapa

The logical pretzel of '...stop Islam before there are more Breiviks' is profoundly stupid. If I interpret some comments correctly, this meme is being formed now, before the bodies are all in the ground.

It's another indication that they've become almost identical to the radical islamists. "Stop offending the prophet or there'll be more terrorism" or "Don't call us violent or we'll blow up stuff", etc

269 Gretchen G.Tiger  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 8:08:23am

re: #238 ggt

Well, I think we all agree that he is "not right in the head", but to whether he is technically "insane" is another matter.

I wonder what the legal requirements are in Norway.

I am having no luck googling this. Any ideas?

270 Gretchen G.Tiger  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 8:10:16am

re: #268 Killgore Trout

It's another indication that they've become almost identical to the radical islamists. "Stop offending the prophet or there'll be more terrorism" or "Don't call us violent or we'll blow up stuff", etc

Whacko is as Whacko does.

271 sattv4u2  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 8:10:54am

re: #269 ggt

I am having no luck googling this. Any ideas?

I once had an idea

But it died of loneliness!

272 Kronocide  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 8:11:02am

Today's selection of Is It Satire?

From the Foundation of Human Understanding. Enjoy!

273 Gretchen G.Tiger  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 8:13:41am

re: #272 BigPapa

Today's selection of Is It Satire?

From the Foundation of Human Understanding. Enjoy!

I don't know, I couldn't get thru the first paragraph. Too mucy illiteration.

274 kirkspencer  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 8:14:25am

Sociopathy (now called anti-socialism) is a personality disorder, not a cognitive insanity.

Knowing right and wrong and choosing to do wrong invalidates the defense in the US. I do not know if Brievik's 'horrific but necessary' statements will be taken as knowing it was wrong or not -- again, IF that applies in Norway.

275 Interesting Times  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 8:15:26am

re: #272 BigPapa

Today's selection of Is It Satire?

From the Foundation of Human Understanding. Enjoy!

At the very bottom of the page, in tiny, tiny print:

Copyright 2011 FHU - FHU is a Church and 501(c)(3) Religious Organization

I call real. Fred Phelps Lite. 99% sure these idiots are also Bryan Fischer fans.

276 Killgore Trout  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 8:15:37am

re: #272 BigPapa

Today's selection of Is It Satire?

From the Foundation of Human Understanding. Enjoy!

I don't think so at all. We were just talking about how the counter-Jihad movement has become just as ugly as the radical Islamists. On a personal level I knew a girl once who was obsessed with positivity. But she was always angry at people and complained bitterly about how negative other people were. It happens.

277 Gretchen G.Tiger  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 8:18:52am
Today's selection of Is It Satire?

From the Foundation of Human Understanding. Enjoy!

I have a lot to say to my cowardly fellow-Americans. This country will not go out with a bang, but with a whimper. If you look at the history of America, the recent history, the last thirty years, you will see that the attempt to demoralize America has been purposefully and carefully planned

re: #272 BigPapa

ghosts of Gramsci?

Ok, I tried to read further than the first paragraph.

278 Gus  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 8:21:19am

This is enough to make any normal person's head spin.re: #272 BigPapa

Today's selection of Is It Satire?

From the Foundation of Human Understanding. Enjoy!

Roy Masters - Cult concerns

Some Christian teachers have warned that Masters' version of Christianity deviates from mainstream Christian doctrine, into the territory of New Age thought. Masters added a "statement of faith" to the Foundation web site in an attempt to address these concerns. In a 1992 open letter, he said he was a former Jew who founded a ministry that some unfairly viewed as New Age because of "often mean-spirited media coverage."

Some of Masters' enthusiasts relocated to southern Oregon in the 1980s, after Masters and the Foundation moved there. Masters had encouraged listeners of his radio show to relocate out of large cities to escape what he said was the inevitable collapse of a sick society.

279 Kronocide  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 8:26:24am

I found it almost comic that somebody would post a screed about 'You become what you hate' and goes on about 'sick liberals.'

Not Satire gets the win. And yes, Bryan Fischer fan if not a competitor.

280 Gus  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 8:26:39am

The Masters of WorldNetDaily

WorldNetDaily has been notoriously close-mouthed about its behind-the-scenes operations. Editor and CEO Joseph Farah clammed up when ConWebWatch asked him questions about where WND's start-up money came from.

But there's one connection WND has never spoken of: its links with an evangelist, meditation advocate and talk-radio mogul named Roy Masters.

Masters leads an organization called the Foundation of Human Understanding. FHU was officially recognized as a church by the Internal Revenue Service after a long fight in the 1980s; the IRS originally recognized the group as a religious organization (which must file annual IRS reports) but not a church (which doesn't), but the Tax Court overruled that decision after the FHU appealed it.

Masters and his FHU has been accused of cult-like tendencies over the years; his followers have been called "Roybots." Masters moved his operations to Grants Pass, Oregon, in 1982 -- followed by 2,000 of his supporters, who proceeded to attempt to take over the town; that prompted a boycott of Masters-related businesses by some local residents. A July 1992 episode of Geraldo Rivera's TV show featured a former FHU member who said of the group: "The role of women is to be very submissive, quiet, never questioning, not thinking, no decisions." The ex-wife of one of Roy Masters' sons denounced Masters on a 1999 TV show, citing a "long history of Masters' denigration of women."

Read it all.

281 Gus  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 8:32:39am

News Talk 1300 KKOL Boosts Signal to 50,000 Watts
Increased Coverage Will Reach 3.5 Million

SEATTLE -- Dec. 13, 2006--News Talk 1300 KOL general manager Joe Gonzalez, a Salem Communications' (NASDAQ:SALM) station, announced today a signal boost to 50,000 watts for the station transmitter at its new Port of Tacoma site. The amplified signal gives one of Seattle-Tacoma's oldest stations access to a significantly wider audience for its conservative news and opinion programming. The new signal increases KOL's coverage by 2 million to more than 3.5 million area listeners.

News Talk 1300 KOL offers news and commentary from a host of key thinkers on the national landscape of politics and culture. KOL's weekday line-up includes:

* Laura Ingraham - 6 - 9 a.m.
* Dennis Prager - 9 a.m. - noon
* Jerry Doyle - noon - 3 p.m.
* Hugh Hewitt - 3 - 6 p.m.
* Mike Gallagher - 6 - 9 p.m.
* Michael Reagan - 9 p.m. - midnight
* Roy Masters - midnight - 2 a.m.
* Bill Bennett - 3 - 6 a.m.

282 Gretchen G.Tiger  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 8:35:03am

re: #280 Gus 802

The Masters of WorldNetDaily

"In 1984, according to a Nexis search, Masters issued a press release declaring that there is no such thing as mental illness; rather, "t's all a matter of demon possession." The release added: "He proved his point, he says, in front of television cameras for a Cable News Network (CNN) documentary. He passed a wooden cross over the audience, and, he says, all the fiends came popping out, screaming and growling like animals. Masters adds that the CNN reporter almost went into shock."

hahahahahaha
More likely the CNN was speechless because he was having a hard time not laughing.

283 Killgore Trout  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 8:35:36am

Well, no sign of even a fake forced apology from Beck for calling the victims Hitler Youth. I'm kind of surprised. I thought this might even get him fired but he's not even going to backtrack. Oh, well.

284 Gretchen G.Tiger  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 8:37:24am

re: #255 Killgore Trout

More support from townhall readers...


...

"As for a climactic conflict between a once-Christian West and an Islamic world that is growing in numbers and advancing inexorably into Europe for the third time in 14 centuries, on this one, Breivik may be right".

A once-Christian West?

What does that mean? We are all Pagans?

285 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 8:38:05am

A thankfully once-Christian West.

286 Lidane  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 8:38:29am

re: #283 Killgore Trout

Well, no sign of even a fake forced apology from Beck for calling the victims Hitler Youth. I'm kind of surprised. I thought this might even get him fired but he's not even going to backtrack. Oh, well.

Please. He's doubled down on that idiocy:

Beck: If We Can't Use Hitler Analogies In "Logical Conversation," "We Are Going To Be A Society Of Gas Chambers"

287 Gretchen G.Tiger  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 8:40:01am

re: #285 Sergey Romanov

A thankfully once-Christian West.

Not having forced Religion means less money in Uncle Pat's pocket.

288 Lidane  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 8:40:58am

re: #284 ggt

A once-Christian West?

What does that mean? We are all Pagans?

Want to know why we're not Christian anymore? Those pesky wimmenz think they're equal! The brown people think they've got rights! We tolerate other religions and don't kill them! Gays are allowed to live!

We've betrayed God. We're not Christian anymore.

///

289 Gretchen G.Tiger  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 8:41:06am

From my email.

Global Gag Rule must be on the agenda again.

290 Gretchen G.Tiger  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 8:41:56am

re: #288 Lidane

///

Dogs and Cats living in the same household!

291 Gus  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 8:42:54am

re: #284 ggt

"As for a climactic conflict between a once-Christian West and an Islamic world that is growing in numbers and advancing inexorably into Europe for the third time in 14 centuries, on this one, Breivik may be right".

A once-Christian West?

What does that mean? We are all Pagans?

re: #284 ggt

"As for a climactic conflict between a once-Christian West and an Islamic world that is growing in numbers and advancing inexorably into Europe for the third time in 14 centuries, on this one, Breivik may be right".

A once-Christian West?

What does that mean? We are all Pagans?

That's hilarious. The West remains by and large Christian. The Western Hemisphere itself is majority Christian. Once again we're dealing with delusional paranoids.

292 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 8:43:04am

re: #268 Killgore Trout

It's another indication that they've become almost identical to the radical islamists. "Stop offending the prophet or there'll be more terrorism" or "Don't call us violent or we'll blow up stuff", etc

And the net result is that it becomes just that much harder to express legitimate criticism of Islamic fundamentalists without being lumped in with them.


I mean honestly:

“He was standing just by the water, using his rifle, just taking his time, aiming and shooting,” Ms. Andreassen said. “It was a slaughter of young children."

For more than an hour, the gunman stalked the forests and steep, rocky shores of the island. There were no bridges to provide escape. Time was on his side.

The young people desperately silenced their cellphones and stripped off colorful clothing. But the shooter was methodical. After killing several people on one part of the island, he went to the other, and, dressed in his police uniform, calmly convinced the children huddled there that he meant to save them. When they emerged into the open, he fired again and again.

What kind of depraved lunatic supports that?

293 Gus  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 8:44:46am

Muslim Demographics - Snopes

Claim: Statistics demonstrate that "Islam will overwhelm Christendom unless Christians recognize the demographic realities and begin reproducing again."

Status: Mostly False

The video of course is popular with the anti-Jihadist cult.

294 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 8:46:09am

re: #293 Gus 802

Mostly false means slightly true. That means that the evil Muslims are going to outbreed us and take our wimminz and enslave us all! SHOCK! OUTRAGE! ...Damn, my bullshit detector exploded!

295 Gretchen G.Tiger  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 8:46:32am

re: #291 Gus 802

re: #284 ggt

That's hilarious. The West remains by and large Christian. The Western Hemisphere itself is majority Christian. Once again we're dealing with delusional paranoids.

All Hail, the Mighty Oak!

Those who gather today under her branches feel the cool breeze, breathe the clean air she provides and stand on the firm ground her deep, deep roots make for us.

Hail to thee, Mighty Oak!

296 Gus  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 8:47:05am

Major Religions of the World Ranked by Number of Adherents

Christianity: 2.1 billion
Islam: 1.5 billion
Secular/Nonreligious/Agnostic/Atheist: 1.1 billion
Hinduism: 900 million
Chinese traditional religion: 394 million
Buddhism: 376 million
primal-indigenous: 300 million
African Traditional & Diasporic: 100 million
Sikhism: 23 million
Juche: 19 million
Spiritism: 15 million
Judaism: 14 million
Baha'i: 7 million
Jainism: 4.2 million
Shinto: 4 million
Cao Dai: 4 million
Zoroastrianism: 2.6 million
Tenrikyo: 2 million
Neo-Paganism: 1 million
Unitarian-Universalism: 800 thousand
Rastafarianism: 600 thousand
Scientology: 500 thousand

297 Gretchen G.Tiger  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 8:47:49am

re: #293 Gus 802

Muslim Demographics - Snopes

Claim: Statistics demonstrate that "Islam will overwhelm Christendom unless Christians recognize the demographic realities and begin reproducing again."

Status: Mostly False

The video of course is popular with the anti-Jihadist cult.

Only until we start interbreeding --then the labels won't apply.

the HORROR, no clean and dried labels!

How will we survive?

298 Mocking Jay  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 8:48:06am

re: #286 Lidane

Please. He's doubled down on that idiocy:

Beck: If We Can't Use Hitler Analogies In "Logical Conversation," "We Are Going To Be A Society Of Gas Chambers"

Now that's the crazy man I remember.

299 kirkspencer  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 8:48:36am

re: #291 Gus 802

re: #284 ggt

That's hilarious. The West remains by and large Christian. The Western Hemisphere itself is majority Christian. Once again we're dealing with delusional paranoids.

There are more Christians in the world than members of any other nation.

Evangelicals, however, will tell you that not all who claim to be Christians are truly Christian. They tend to ignore Mark 9:40.

300 Gretchen G.Tiger  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 8:49:24am

re: #296 Gus 802

Major Religions of the World Ranked by Number of Adherents

Christianity: 2.1 billion
Islam: 1.5 billion
Secular/Nonreligious/Agnostic/Atheist: 1.1 billion
Hinduism: 900 million
Chinese traditional religion: 394 million
Buddhism: 376 million
primal-indigenous: 300 million
African Traditional & Diasporic: 100 million
Sikhism: 23 million
Juche: 19 million
Spiritism: 15 million
Judaism: 14 million
Baha'i: 7 million
Jainism: 4.2 million
Shinto: 4 million
Cao Dai: 4 million
Zoroastrianism: 2.6 million
Tenrikyo: 2 million
Neo-Paganism: 1 million
Unitarian-Universalism: 800 thousand
Rastafarianism: 600 thousand
Scientology: 500 thousand

I had NO idea!

301 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 8:49:29am

re: #296 Gus 802

Image: 24xkxnk.jpg

302 Gus  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 8:50:17am

re: #301 negativ

Image: 24xkxnk.jpg

We're all gonna die! We're all gonna die! We're all gonna die!

//

303 Gretchen G.Tiger  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 8:50:51am

re: #301 negativ

Image: 24xkxnk.jpg

"Our children aren't going to church! They are having sex! Some are deluded by the multiculturalists into thinking they are homosexual.

Damn, my coffers are getting a bit empty."

--Uncle Pat

304 Gus  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 8:51:45am

re: #296 Gus 802

Major Religions of the World Ranked by Number of Adherents

Christianity: 2.1 billion
Islam: 1.5 billion
Secular/Nonreligious/Agnostic/Atheist: 1.1 billion
Hinduism: 900 million
Chinese traditional religion: 394 million
Buddhism: 376 million
primal-indigenous: 300 million
African Traditional & Diasporic: 100 million
Sikhism: 23 million
Juche: 19 million
Spiritism: 15 million
Judaism: 14 million
Baha'i: 7 million
Jainism: 4.2 million
Shinto: 4 million
Cao Dai: 4 million
Zoroastrianism: 2.6 million
Tenrikyo: 2 million
Neo-Paganism: 1 million
Unitarian-Universalism: 800 thousand
Rastafarianism: 600 thousand
Scientology: 500 thousand

This would mean the Muslim population would have to expand to the size of something close to the population of two USAs. Or about 600,000,000. Then you would have to conclude, in order to remain paranoid, that those Muslims would be non-Westernized. It's pathetic.

305 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 8:52:50am

Wait, since when is Juche a world religion?

[Link: www.globalsecurity.org...]

306 Gretchen G.Tiger  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 8:53:48am

re: #305 negativ

Wait, since when is Juche a world religion?

[Link: www.globalsecurity.org...]

Is that code for Sovereign Citizen?

307 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 8:53:55am

re: #304 Gus 802

But Alex Jones said Illuminati invented a new kind of a Moslem, one that reproduces by division!!1! They'll swamp us11!!

308 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 8:54:18am

re: #305 negativ

Yeah, my eyebrows were also raised.

309 Gus  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 8:55:47am

Or, as the crazies would think. If you ban abortion AmericaFuck Yeah! could take up the slack of those 600,000,000 by allowing the robust "creation" of good Christian Americans! Let's see. 1 million abortions per year. So that would take, not accounting for normal population growth, 600 years. That's the ticket. We could call it the "600 Year Plan." Hmm, there's something really Bronze Age about this.

310 Lidane  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 8:56:06am

re: #306 ggt

Is that code for Sovereign Citizen?

Seems to be code for "Kim Jong Il's Religion Making Him a God", but I could be wrong.

311 Gretchen G.Tiger  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 8:56:30am

Tenrikyo is the largest current religion to have a female foundress.

312 Gus  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 8:57:05am

re: #305 negativ

Wait, since when is Juche a world religion?

[Link: www.globalsecurity.org...]

All praise Kim Jong-il!

313 Gretchen G.Tiger  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 8:57:24am

re: #309 Gus 802

Or, as the crazies would think. If you ban abortion AmericaFuck Yeah! could take up the slack of those 600,000,000 by allowing the robust "creation" of good Christian Americans! Let's see. 1 million abortions per year. So that would take, not accounting for normal population growth, 600 years. That's the ticket. We could call it the "600 Year Plan." Hmm, there's something really Bronze Age about this.

DON'T GET ME STARTED!

314 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 8:58:16am

re: #313 ggt

*starts ggt*

315 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 8:58:33am

re: #314 Sergey Romanov

*starts ggt*

Get a room, you two.

316 Gretchen G.Tiger  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 8:59:26am

re: #299 kirkspencer

There are more Christians in the world than members of any other nation.

Evangelicals, however, will tell you that not all who claim to be Christians are truly Christian. They tend to ignore Mark 9:40.

We Catholics laugh at the idea.

And I'm not even a good Catholic.

Be part of a religion that is 2000 years old or more for a while. Gives you a different perspective.

317 lawhawk  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 9:00:27am

re: #316 ggt

Get back to me when your religion hits 3,000+ years old. /

318 blueraven  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 9:01:10am

Apologies if this has already been posted, but Anderson Cooper did actually, finally, show a clip that calls out Pamela Geller and Robert Spencer and their hate filled blogs...the mentions come at about the 3:30 mark.

[Link: ac360.blogs.cnn.com...]

319 Gretchen G.Tiger  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 9:01:13am

re: #313 ggt

DON'T GET ME STARTED!

It's more like 600,000 gazillion babies not being born means less people to manipulate into giving Uncle Pat their money.

Less people he and his kind can tell how to live, how to vote, who to hate.

It's about money and power, not Jesus or love or Christianity.

320 laZardo  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 9:01:17am

re: #316 ggt

Religion is religion is religion. The older the crustier.

321 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 9:01:32am

re: #318 blueraven

Thanks, didn't see.

322 Gretchen G.Tiger  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 9:07:35am

re: #318 blueraven

Apologies if this has already been posted, but Anderson Cooper did actually, finally, show a clip that calls out Pamela Geller and Robert Spencer and their hate filled blogs...the mentions come at about the 3:30 mark.

[Link: ac360.blogs.cnn.com...]

I like Anderson Cooper.

323 Gretchen G.Tiger  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 9:08:59am

re: #320 laZardo

Religion is religion is religion. The older the crustier.

I don't know laZardo.

I see so much shit in the RC church, it makes me instantly skeptical about most of the crap I hear coming out of the Whacko Christian's mouths.

Their adherants seem naive.

324 wrenchwench  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 9:09:25am

Re: The video at the top.

What a spectacular performance. One of the best I've seen. Thanks for finding and posting that.

325 Gretchen G.Tiger  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 9:09:57am

re: #317 lawhawk

Get back to me when your religion hits 3,000+ years old. /

I tried to include you too!

2000 years old or more for a while.

326 Gus  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 9:11:42am

Stalin killed close to 60 million people. WWII caused the deaths of nearly 50,000,000 around the world including the murder of approximately 6 million* Jews -- and perpetrated by adherents of Martin Luther. Millions were murdered in Cambodia, East Timor, etc. Yet, "Muslim" hijackers kill 3,000 Americans and that means "it's the end of the world!" and that eventually the world will be "taken over" by Muslims.

327 laZardo  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 9:13:03am

re: #323 ggt

It's still all based on the same 2000-ish year old verse.

328 Gretchen G.Tiger  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 9:13:23am

I'm still confused about ABB's finances. Somewhere it said he had a net work of $78K. Was that a USD translation?

How long is that going to pay for legal fees in Norway?

329 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 9:13:38am

re: #326 Gus 802

Stalin killed close to 60 million people.

I know this number flies around, but no, not close. Even the black book of Communism says 20 mln. /hist.nerd

330 Lidane  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 9:14:05am

re: #326 Gus 802

Stalin killed close to 60 million people. WWII caused the deaths of nearly 50,000,000 around the world including the murder of approximately 6 million* Jews -- and perpetrated by adherents of Martin Luther. Millions were murdered in Cambodia, East Timor, etc. Yet, "Muslim" hijackers kill 3,000 Americans and that means "it's the end of the world!" and that eventually the world will be "taken over" by Muslims.

Because all those deaths happened in other countries and to other people.

We've been fairly isolated from that level of mass death, except maybe during the self-inflicted wound of the Civil War. Other countries have seen our hysteria over the last ten years and they simply don't get it.

331 Gus  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 9:14:06am

re: #329 Sergey Romanov

I know this number flies around, but no, not close. Even the black book of Communism says 20 mln. /hist.nerd

OK. 20 million still works.

332 Gretchen G.Tiger  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 9:14:47am

re: #330 Lidane

Because all those deaths happened in other countries and to other people.

We've been fairly isolated from that level of mass death, except maybe during the self-inflicted wound of the Civil War. Other countries have seen our hysteria over the last ten years and they simply don't get it.

I think Norway might get it now.

:(

333 Gretchen G.Tiger  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 9:15:03am

re: #328 ggt

I'm still confused about ABB's finances. Somewhere it said he had a net work of $78K. Was that a USD translation?

How long is that going to pay for legal fees in Norway?

net worth

334 Lidane  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 9:17:34am

re: #332 ggt

I think Norway might get it now.

:(

Except that their current problem was a homegrown nutjob that paid attention to our homegrown nutjobs ranting about Islam and brown people.

Norway wasn't immune to WW2:

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

335 Gus  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 9:19:58am

re: #330 Lidane

Because all those deaths happened in other countries and to other people.

We've been fairly isolated from that level of mass death, except maybe during the self-inflicted wound of the Civil War. Other countries have seen our hysteria over the last ten years and they simply don't get it.

There's a serious lack of balance and perspective here. Yes, what happened on 9/11 was evil and unveiled a serious gap in security within these United States. Yes, there is an inherent danger in Jihadism, Al Qaeda, and other terrorist groups. However, those dangers have been heavily distorted and inflated almost to the point of exceeding our Cold War fear of the Russians -- who had a power and might that could have, along with the USA -- destroyed the Earth in on nuclear exchange. Even the dangers of Iran, when compared with what we faced during the Cold War -- pale in comparison. Yet, we are led to believe that Iran, along with North Korea, will lead to the destruction of mankind. This is simply not the case. We've cornered ourselves into an atmosphere of fear and paranoia that do not match or equate our previous historical challenges.

336 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 9:22:21am

Afternoon lizards!

Looks like Hamas is running out of money...

Hamas also faces financial crunch, hasn't paid salaries

Hamas also seems to be facing a financial crisis and, like the Palestinian Authority, has not been able to pay full salaries to its civil servants in the Gaza Strip.

Hamas legislator Yahya Musa called on the Hamas government to “be frank with the people and tell them the truth about the financial situation.”

Musa expressed concern over the Hamas government’s failure to pay full salaries to its employees for the last few months.

“If there’s a financial crisis, then the government should say so,” Musa said. “And if there isn’t a crisis, the government should quickly pay full salaries to all its workers.”

Sources in the Gaza Strip said that because of the financial crisis, the Hamas government has in recent months paid only half salaries to its employees.

Perhaps if they stopped purchasing guns, ammo, rockets, and explosives to kill Jews they might be able to pay their citizens.

337 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 9:23:01am

My TV just said congress critter David Wu (D-Oregon) is resigning.

338 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 9:23:39am

re: #337 Cannadian Club Akbar

What is it with politicians and their dicks and fetishes?

339 Lidane  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 9:24:18am

re: #335 Gus 802

We've cornered ourselves into an atmosphere of fear and paranoia that do not match or equate our previous historical challenges.

A lot of people have been saying that for the last ten years. During the Bush years, saying it got you a single response:

Why do you hate America?

The right lost their collective shit on 9/11 and they've been whipping themselves into a frenzy these past ten years. It's no surprise that Breivik was inspired by them.

340 Shropshire_Slasher  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 9:24:58am

re: #337 Cannadian Club Akbar
oh bother

341 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 9:25:49am

re: #337 Cannadian Club Akbar

My TV just said congress critter David Wu (D-Oregon) is resigning.

It is true.

Rep. David Wu resigns

342 Lidane  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 9:29:33am

@DavidShuster on Twitter:

Harry Reid did not file cloture on his plan yesterday...means the vote on his plan will come AFTER Boehner. Last man standing strategy.

Even if boehner passes House on Wed., deal will be killed immediately in Senate... leaving Reid plan or a US default, and jamming GOP.

Looks like things are going to get interesting for Sir John of Orange and the GOP.

343 Gus  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 9:30:26am

re: #339 Lidane

A lot of people have been saying that for the last ten years. During the Bush years, saying it got you a single response:

The right lost their collective shit on 9/11 and they've been whipping themselves into a frenzy these past ten years. It's no surprise that Breivik was inspired by them.

"Further, the process of transformation, even if it brings revolutionary change, is likely to be a long one, absent some catastrophic and catalyzing event––like a new Pearl Harbor" -- PNAC

After 9/11 we were lead to believe that it was another Pearl Harbor. I would say not. Again, it wasn't something to ignore but the historical, military, and strategic parallels are missing. The only similarity being in that it played a role in galvanizing America. Al Qaeda is not anything close militarily to the Imperial Japanese Army and Navy. Al Qaeda cannot invade most of China, North Korea, and a number of South Pacific Islands as the Japanese did during WWII. There is no, or hardly any, equivalence between Pearl Harbor and 9/11 other than on a psychological level.

344 Winny Spencer  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 9:31:31am

re: #342 Lidane

@DavidShuster on Twitter:

Looks like things are going to get interesting for Sir John of Orange and the GOP.

I think he might even shed some tears before this is over.

345 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 9:32:43am

re: #341 NJDhockeyfan

It is true.

Rep. David Wu resigns

Na na na na, na na na na, hey hey, good bye!

(For those who don't know, this is my congressman, and I want him gone. Silly me, I want to be represented by someone who doesn't have more issues than the periodical room of the library.)

346 blueraven  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 9:37:30am

re: #343 Gus 802

"Further, the process of transformation, even if it brings revolutionary change, is likely to be a long one, absent some catastrophic and catalyzing event––like a new Pearl Harbor" -- PNAC

After 9/11 we were lead to believe that it was another Pearl Harbor. I would say not. Again, it wasn't something to ignore but the historical, military, and strategic parallels are missing. The only similarity being in that it played a role in galvanizing America. Al Qaeda is not anything close militarily to the Imperial Japanese Army and Navy. Al Qaeda cannot invade most of China, North Korea, and a number of South Pacific Islands as the Japanese did during WWII. There is no, or hardly any, equivalence between Pearl Harbor and 9/11 other than on a psychological level.

After 9/11 I was all on board for some revenge. But I have always believed in the old adage "vengance is a dish best served cold". I thought the approach was wrong. That we should have spent more time gathering intel, sent in special ops and then wait...for just the right moment.Instead we telegraphed, spent huge amounts of money and they knew exactly what was coming.

Then when we did have a bit of momentum, we diverted to Iraq!

347 Gus  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 9:38:34am

@daveweigel
DC press surveys wreckage from Wu scandal, says "Huh, weird," goes back to covering debt

348 Lidane  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 9:38:38am

re: #344 Winny Spencer

I think he might even shed some tears before this is over.

Especially after Cantor makes a play for the Speaker position.

349 blueraven  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 9:39:10am

re: #341 NJDhockeyfan

It is true.

Rep. David Wu resigns

Good riddance!

350 Sheila Broflovski  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 9:40:42am

re: #330 Lidane

Because all those deaths happened in other countries and to other people.

We've been fairly isolated from that level of mass death, except maybe during the self-inflicted wound of the Civil War. Other countries have seen our hysteria over the last ten years and they simply don't get it.

Even the Civil War did not include mass civilian casualties.

351 Lidane  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 9:40:48am

re: #347 Gus 802

@daveweigel
DC press surveys wreckage from Wu scandal, says "Huh, weird," goes back to covering debt

Potential economic catastrophe > another asshole caught in a sex scandal. Wu's resignation is no big loss. Good riddance to bad rubbish.

For once, the media isn't letting a sex scandal distract them from the real story.

352 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 9:42:26am

re: #351 Lidane

Potential economic catastrophe > another asshole caught in a sex scandal. Wu's resignation is no big loss. Good riddance to bad rubbish.

For once, the media isn't letting a sex scandal distract them from the real story.

A fact for which I am eternally grateful. Even though this will probably be the only time they do ignore the stupid to focus on the relevant, it's a start.

353 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 9:42:53am

re: #346 blueraven

As a Russian saying goes, "Now I'll investigate everything carefully and will punish just anyone."

354 Gretchen G.Tiger  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 9:43:59am

re: #335 Gus 802

There's a serious lack of balance and perspective here. Yes, what happened on 9/11 was evil and unveiled a serious gap in security within these United States. Yes, there is an inherent danger in Jihadism, Al Qaeda, and other terrorist groups. However, those dangers have been heavily distorted and inflated almost to the point of exceeding our Cold War fear of the Russians -- who had a power and might that could have, along with the USA -- destroyed the Earth in on nuclear exchange. Even the dangers of Iran, when compared with what we faced during the Cold War -- pale in comparison. Yet, we are led to believe that Iran, along with North Korea, will lead to the destruction of mankind. This is simply not the case. We've cornered ourselves into an atmosphere of fear and paranoia that do not match or equate our previous historical challenges.

Agreed, the initial fear, that there would be more major attacks has not come true. Partially because The Whackos are not that organized and I'd like to give credit to Homeland Security. For as messed-up as they are, there are good people in law enforcement doing very good work in counter-terrorism. It is a real threat.

Terrorism not having a national identity can't be compared to WWII or the threat of Cold War Communism. It's a different animal we didn't know how to fight and that put the permanently paranoid and the soccer moms on high alert.

Now, after 10 years with no major second attack, they can't see the problem is now: themselves. Citizens and Governments are doing the work they should be (maybe not as well or the way everyone would like) and we need to focus on JOBS now.

Not the second (or first) coming of Christ and Biblical prophecies.

355 AK-47%  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 9:45:24am

re: #350 Alouette

Even the Civil War did not include mass civilian casualties.

There were, but for the most part they were "collateral damage", not targeted victims.

356 kirkspencer  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 9:45:37am

re: #346 blueraven

After 9/11 I was all on board for some revenge. But I have always believed in the old adage "vengance is a dish best served cold". I thought the approach was wrong. That we should have spent more time gathering intel, sent in special ops and then wait...for just the right moment.Instead we telegraphed, spent huge amounts of money and they knew exactly what was coming.

Then when we did have a bit of momentum, we diverted to Iraq!

See, I've never been on board for revenge. The end is never the end, but merely a step on the way to the next end.

357 darthstar  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 9:46:30am

re: #342 Lidane

@DavidShuster on Twitter:

Looks like things are going to get interesting for Sir John of Orange and the GOP.

Boehner should know better than to play hard-ball with the big boys. Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi know Senate and House procedure better than anyone. It makes me feel good knowing that they can take full advantage of that knowledge.

359 Gretchen G.Tiger  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 9:46:59am

re: #356 kirkspencer

See, I've never been on board for revenge. The end is never the end, but merely a step on the way to the next end.

Revenge keeps a person in a permanent state of negativity, anger and hatred.

I can't see how that is a good thing.

360 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 9:47:23am

re: #358 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Did he specify whether that was Belial or Beelzebub?

361 Gretchen G.Tiger  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 9:47:39am

re: #358 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Renew America spokesman: “There is little doubt that the entire gay and lesbian community is guided by a powerful demon spirit who is subordinate to Satan.”

Live your own life and leave other people alone.

WTF?

362 darthstar  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 9:47:45am

re: #358 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Renew America spokesman: “There is little doubt that the entire gay and lesbian community is guided by a powerful demon spirit who is subordinate to Satan.”

Actually, there's plenty of doubt.

363 darthstar  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 9:48:24am

re: #360 Sergey Romanov

Did he specify whether that was Belial or Beelzebub?

Mephistopheles was getting his legs waxed and was unavailable for comment.

364 Killgore Trout  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 9:48:42am

Pot farms in California forest raided, dozens arrested

Nearly 80 people have been arrested in the largest marijuana-eradication law enforcement operation in California history, several local reports say. About 292,000 plants have been discovered, Justice Department spokeswoman Michelle Gregory told the Santa Rosa Press-Democrat.

Raids involving local, state and federal authorities have been going on for days in the Mendocino National Forest in remote, mountainous areas in Glenn, Colusa, Tehama, Mendocino, Lake and Trinity counties, according to the Tehama County Daily News.

Officials are beginning the massive cleanup of the sites, which have suffered environmental damage, the Daily News and Press-Democrat report.

The idea for the operation reportedly came after a public meeting in Covelo in north Mendocino County in 2010. Residents said that armed people had confronted them in and around the forest. Hikers and ranchers also said they had been shot at when they mistakenly walked into areas where marijuana was being grown, the Press-Democrat reports.

365 Gus  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 9:48:48am

re: #358 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Renew America spokesman: “There is little doubt that the entire gay and lesbian community is guided by a powerful demon spirit who is subordinate to Satan.”

What's a demon spirit? Can anyone find me a peer reviewed scientific study of demon spirits?

366 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 9:49:15am

re: #361 ggt

Live your own life and leave other people alone.

WTF?

No, no, religious nutjobs simply aren't content to leave well enough alone. They are the ultimate embodiment of a nanny state.

367 Gus  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 9:50:12am

Oh wait I know! Demon spirits are actually made up bullshit that doesn't really exist. Why even the existence of Santa Claus is more plausible.

368 Gretchen G.Tiger  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 9:50:20am

re: #364 Killgore Trout

Pot farms in California forest raided, dozens arrested

Wasn't it rumored that the growers were (eek) Mexican Gangs? Or better put: Organized Crime. Not the happy-go-lucky pothead grower?

369 Gretchen G.Tiger  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 9:50:39am

re: #366 thedopefishlives

No, no, religious nutjobs simply aren't content to leave well enough alone. They are the ultimate embodiment of a nanny state evil.

370 AK-47%  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 9:50:42am

re: #364 Killgore Trout


If it were legal, they would not have to have armed people defending it and threatening passers-by...

371 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 9:51:01am

re: #367 Gus 802

Slippery slope there. Next thing you will deny God!

/

372 Gretchen G.Tiger  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 9:51:26am

re: #370 ralphieboy

If it were legal, they would not have to have armed people defending it and threatening passers-by...

No, if you were planting illegally on government land --then profit is probably your big motive. You would defend it.

373 AK-47%  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 9:51:40am

re: #368 ggt

Wasn't it rumored that the growers were (eek) Mexican Gangs? Or better put: Organized Crime. Not the happy-go-lucky pothead grower?


Once again, legalize and keep it out of the hands of organized crime

374 Gus  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 9:51:57am

re: #358 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Renew America spokesman: “There is little doubt that the entire gay and lesbian community is guided by a powerful demon spirit who is subordinate to Satan.”

Hey, that's basically a Tea Party group if I remember correctly. Sort of like a "spiritual" site for Teabaggers. That statement sounds like something you would hear from the Madrasas of Pakistan.

375 Gretchen G.Tiger  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 9:53:19am

re: #373 ralphieboy

Once again, legalize and keep it out of the hands of organized crime

and into the hands of Corporate America.

Growing on Government land pisses me off.

376 Gus  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 9:53:24am

Demon spirits have taken over the halls of congress!!

Ooga booga glom necka tooka wanna beega dooga!

//

377 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 9:53:30am

re: #372 ggt

No, if you were planting illegally on government land --then profit is probably your big motive. You would defend it.

you plant weed on gubment property because some states will seize the property the weed is grown on.

378 Killgore Trout  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 9:53:55am

re: #368 ggt

Wasn't it rumored that the growers were (eek) Mexican Gangs? Or better put: Organized Crime. Not the happy-go-lucky pothead grower?

Maybe, it might be American drug gangs too. They were shooting at people who stumbled on their farms.

379 Gretchen G.Tiger  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 9:54:07am

re: #376 Gus 802

Demon spirits have taken over the halls of congress!!

Ooga booga glom necka tooka wanna beega dooga!

//

haboob!

380 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 9:54:18am

re: #376 Gus 802

Demon spirits have taken over the halls of congress!!

Ooga booga glom necka tooka wanna beega dooga!

//

You deny demons, yet you were obviously overtaken by one.

Wait. That's tongues. Nevermind.

381 AK-47%  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 9:54:50am

re: #374 Gus 802

Hey, that's basically a Tea Party group if I remember correctly. Sort of like a "spiritual" site for Teabaggers. That statement sounds like something you would hear from the Madrasas of Pakistan.

The "Clash of Civilizations" is not between Christianity and Islam, it is between elightenmnet and fundamentalism, wherever they are mainfest and in whichever religion.

Fundamentalism seems to have gained the upper hand in the Muslim world, but it also has a grip on Christianity, as we can hear from our friends here.

382 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 9:54:54am

re: #379 ggt

haboob!

Halal falafel loofah!

383 Gretchen G.Tiger  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 9:54:58am

re: #377 Cannadian Club Akbar

you plant weed on gubment property because some states will seize the property the weed is grown on.

But, I thought you could grow legally in California . . .--no?

384 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 9:56:01am

re: #383 ggt

But, I thought you could grow legally in California . . .--no?

I honestly don't know. I'm 3000 miles away from there.:)

385 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 9:56:08am

re: #382 Sergey Romanov

Halal falafel loofah!

/ I apologize for the mental image of Bill O'Reilly that must have caused. /

387 Gus  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 9:56:46am

re: #385 Sergey Romanov

/ I apologize for the mental image of Bill O'Reilly that must have caused. /

I just started thinking about sponges.

//

388 AK-47%  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 9:57:09am

re: #375 ggt

and into the hands of Corporate America.

I realized that as soon as I sent off the post, but at least theoretically, we have some control over legally registered corporations.

And at least as of yet, the marijuana lobby does not have the influence of, say, the tobacco or pharmaceutical lobby.

389 Gretchen G.Tiger  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 9:57:14am

Emerald Triangle

390 Gus  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 9:57:18am

re: #386 Lidane

Gee, this sounds reasonable:

Sen. Mike Lee (R-UT): I Want America’s ‘House To Come Down’ Unless Congress Votes To Rewrite Constitution

Rewrite Constitution? What fer? People want to know. ;)

392 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 9:58:09am

re: #387 Gus 802

I just started thinking about sponges.

//

That brings us back to demons: Sponge Bob is obviously gay. He must be the demon you're looking for.

393 Lidane  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 9:58:47am

re: #391 Killgore Trout

Pat Robertson Responds To Norway Terrorism With Attack On Islam (video)

What, no attacks on gays, lesbians, and pagans while he's at it? Pat's slipping in his old age.

394 Gus  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 9:58:53am

re: #391 Killgore Trout

Pat Robertson Responds To Norway Terrorism With Attack On Islam (video)

Takana wanna dille dooba digga dona de.

//

395 Gus  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 9:59:10am

Oh God. These people are crazy.

396 Kragar  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 9:59:26am

re: #393 Lidane

What, no attacks on gays, lesbians, and pagans while he's at it? Pat's slipping in his old age.

I'm sure he's building up to it.

398 Gretchen G.Tiger  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 9:59:56am

ahahahah

Puppy got up on the chair, got a little stuffed Lion I got for the kid a long time ago off a shelf and is now barking at it because it roars like a real lion when he bites into it.

Ah, the little things in life. . . .

399 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 10:00:45am

re: #395 Gus 802

Oh God. These people are crazy.

I would like to file a bug report.

400 Kragar  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 10:00:58am

re: #395 Gus 802

Oh God. These people are crazy.

What makes you say that?
/

401 Killgore Trout  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 10:01:30am

re: #389 ggt

Emerald Triangle

heh. I thought that was about my neighborhood. I know 8-9 people within a block of me that grow pot. Those are only the ones I know personally, there are certainly more. Almost everybody here does it.

402 Gus  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 10:01:36am

re: #400 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

What makes you say that?
/

Oh. Nothing. Just an observation.

//

403 AK-47%  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 10:01:53am

re: #391 Killgore Trout

It has been pointed out that Islamist terror has killed more Muslims than Christians: Brevik is a twisted mirror of that sad reality.

404 Gretchen G.Tiger  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 10:01:56am

Frontline: The Pot Republic

405 Gus  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 10:02:05am

Crazy people are crazy! And they're on TV and the intertoobs!

406 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 10:02:14am

Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse: Tinky Winky, Sponge Bob, Bert and Ernie.

Pat Robertson, save us!

407 Gretchen G.Tiger  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 10:02:34am

re: #406 Sergey Romanov

Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse: Tinky Winky, Sponge Bob, Bert and Ernie.

Pat Robertson, save us!

You forgot the Teletubbies.

408 AK-47%  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 10:03:22am

re: #406 Sergey Romanov

Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse: Tinky Winky, Sponge Bob, Bert and Ernie.

Pat Robertson, save us!


And what about our hero Khrjuschka, the anti-Jihadist piglet from Russian children's TV?

409 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 10:03:25am

re: #407 ggt

Wait, they already kicked Tinky Winky out? They're like Boy Scouts or something?

410 Kragar  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 10:03:31am

re: #402 Gus 802

Oh. Nothing. Just an observation.

//

When the World Eaters can look at you and say "Guys, you need to tone it down some", you know you've got some problems.

/geek reference

411 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 10:03:54am

re: #408 ralphieboy

Khryusha akshully. :P

412 Gus  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 10:04:25am

re: #407 ggt

You forgot the Teletubbies.

What about Barney the Dinosaur? Is he gay?

//

413 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 10:04:58am

re: #412 Gus 802

What about Barney the Dinosaur? Is he gay?

//

Dinosaur bones were planted by Satan to confuse the faithful, so yes.

414 Gretchen G.Tiger  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 10:05:34am

re: #404 ggt

Frontline: The Pot Republic

This has been aired a couple of years ago, I can't find a link to the whole show. I watched it and posted it then.

I can't navigate the intertoobs as well as I used to.

415 Gretchen G.Tiger  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 10:06:04am

re: #412 Gus 802

What about Barney the Dinosaur? Is he gay?

//

Well, I know some who would call him that.

416 zora  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 10:06:04am

re: #234 Killgore Trout

yes, because what we really need right now is a response from the klan.

417 Killgore Trout  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 10:06:41am

re: #404 ggt

Frontline: The Pot Republic

Yeah, I looked into the legal pot scene here in Portland a while back. It doesn't work and looks like a quick way to end up in jail. Of the growers I know here only one of them has a card.

418 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 10:07:33am

re: #415 ggt

Well, I know some who would call him that.


Do you what a gay dinosaur is named? (I don't wanna say it. Don't wanna get banned)

419 lawhawk  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 10:08:26am

re: #335 Gus 802

There's a serious lack of balance and perspective here. Yes, what happened on 9/11 was evil and unveiled a serious gap in security within these United States. Yes, there is an inherent danger in Jihadism, Al Qaeda, and other terrorist groups. However, those dangers have been heavily distorted and inflated almost to the point of exceeding our Cold War fear of the Russians -- who had a power and might that could have, along with the USA -- destroyed the Earth in on nuclear exchange. Even the dangers of Iran, when compared with what we faced during the Cold War -- pale in comparison. Yet, we are led to believe that Iran, along with North Korea, will lead to the destruction of mankind. This is simply not the case. We've cornered ourselves into an atmosphere of fear and paranoia that do not match or equate our previous historical challenges.

I'd disagree with the italicized section, if only because Iran and North Korea aren't acting as typical rational actors, and with their access and development of nuclear weapons (and in Iran's case, striving to achieve same), their inflamed rhetoric and leadership may actually utilize such weapons against the US or our interests in the affected regions or within range of their missiles.

In Russia we had a rational actor that held to MAD. The same can't necessarily be said of the Iranians, who throw in a religious component that necessitates such a calamity to bring about end-time prophesies (the hidden 12th Mahdi). North Korea may be utilizing nukes as a bargaining chip to extract concessions (nuclear blackmail), but their intentions to engage in proliferation means that the North Koreans may send weapons to those who have no restraint in their use.

Moreover, the Islamic terror groups have directly attacked the US on a number of occasions, while the Russians (Soviets) utilized proxies to hit at US forces. So, in that respect, the threat feels much more imminent even though the comparative military capabilities of the Islamic terror groups like AQ are absolutely dwarfed by the Russian (Soviet) military. That the likes of AQ is more than willing to go after purely civilian targets than just military targets adds to the fear factor, even though during the Cold War - both the US and USSR targeted each others cities multiple times over as part of the MAD doctrine.

420 Lidane  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 10:09:09am

re: #407 ggt

You forgot the Teletubbies.

Tinky Winky was in the Teletubbies, IIRC. He was the one that the whackaloons called gay.

421 Obdicut  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 10:10:00am

re: #419 lawhawk

We came very close to actually going to nuclear war with the Soviets on multiple occasions.

That was worse.

422 Cannadian Club Akbar  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 10:10:28am

bbiab

423 Gretchen G.Tiger  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 10:11:21am

re: #420 Lidane

Tinky Winky was in the Teletubbies, IIRC. He was the one that the whackaloons called gay.

ah!

Never actually watched it myself.

424 lawhawk  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 10:11:26am

re: #421 Obdicut

Yes, multiple times - both as part of a crisis (Cuban missile crisis), and by accident (radar signals show attacks but turn out to be birds, etc.).

425 Gretchen G.Tiger  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 10:12:03am

re: #414 ggt

This has been aired a couple of years ago, I can't find a link to the whole show. I watched it and posted it then.

I can't navigate the intertoobs as well as I used to.

No luck navigating the pages--somewhere in there are posts by me: ggt about the PBS special and current (at that time) situation in California.

426 lawhawk  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 10:12:20am

Rep. David Wu resigns in latest sex scandal to hit the House.

Wu's hometown newspaper, the Oregonian, reported that a California woman had called Wu's office in Portland and reported an unwanted sexual encounter with him. The paper also reported that Wu told senior aides the sexual encounter was consensual.

The newspaper said the woman decided not to press charges because there were no witnesses and it would have been her word against Wu's.

Democratic primary challengers immediately called for Wu's resignation.

"It has been the greatest privilege of my life to be a United States Congressman," Wu said in his resignation announcement. "Rare is the nation in which an immigrant child can become a national political figure. I thank God and my parents for the privilege of being an American."

429 Gretchen G.Tiger  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 10:15:23am

re: #427 Killgore Trout

"Fat Police?" Fox's War On Nutrition Continues With Outrage Over McDonald's Fruit, "Cultur[al]" Defense Of Mac And Cheese

The only way I could get my kid to eat vegetables was to mix them in with mac and cheese.

In our house it was Mac n' Cheese n' Peas

430 Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 10:17:21am

For those who haven't seen Teletubbies, a short recap:

Youtube Video

//

431 wrenchwench  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 10:17:55am

re: #60 Obdicut

Olsonist posted an awesome article in an older thread:

[Link: essays.bearstrong.net...]

Some key paragraphs:

And this is what I mean by being out of touch, of remaining stuck in old models. The problem is not that Bawer believes that immigration poses serious challenges to Europe. I do. This attack does not remove those challenges. The problem is that a writer who lives in Norway during the worst terrorist attack of our history, an attack carried out by a Muslim hater who is at least somewhat in sync with Bawer’s own views, does not have the common sense, the decency, to shut up about Muslims even for the length of a single article.

Bawer has often written about the challenges of integrating immigrants into Europan society. I wonder how well he himself is integrated in Norwegian society today, or whether he, like the immigrants he criticize, considers it disdainfully, from a distance, enjoying its hospitality but standing aloof, alone.


That last part really got to me. A lot of the right-wingers have inherited that mantle of the radical left; they are so critical of society that they're basically placing themselves outside it, while reaping its benefits.

It was oslogin, and it was a good read. My favorite points:

So here’s the first test for right-wing critics of immigration and Islam. The test is: Are you able to do this, fairly? Are you prepared to either acknowledge the implicit violence in ideas you sympathize with, or forgive it in ideas you despise?

[...]

The problem is that a writer who lives in Norway during the worst terrorist attack of our history, an attack carried out by a Muslim hater who is at least somewhat in sync with Bawer’s own views, does not have the common sense, the decency, to shut up about Muslims even for the length of a single article.

[Though it turns out Bawer now lives in New York, see the update, ed.]

Those points apply to more than Bawer. They apply to Gaffney, Geller, Spencer, Buchanan, Beck, Chessler, and I'm sure we can add to the list over the next days.

Somebody should Page that article.

432 Killgore Trout  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 10:18:59am

re: #429 ggt

The only way I could get my kid to eat vegetables was to mix them in with mac and cheese.

In our house it was Mac n' Cheese n' Peas

Heh. Good idea. When I was growing up overseas we often had to eat whatever showed up at the table. Not knowing local languages meant ordering meals was a shot in the dark. I quickly learned to eat whatever showed up or go hungry.

433 Gus  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 10:19:16am

re: #419 lawhawk

I'd disagree with the italicized section, if only because Iran and North Korea aren't acting as typical rational actors, and with their access and development of nuclear weapons (and in Iran's case, striving to achieve same), their inflamed rhetoric and leadership may actually utilize such weapons against the US or our interests in the affected regions or within range of their missiles.

In Russia we had a rational actor that held to MAD. The same can't necessarily be said of the Iranians, who throw in a religious component that necessitates such a calamity to bring about end-time prophesies (the hidden 12th Mahdi). North Korea may be utilizing nukes as a bargaining chip to extract concessions (nuclear blackmail), but their intentions to engage in proliferation means that the North Koreans may send weapons to those who have no restraint in their use.

Moreover, the Islamic terror groups have directly attacked the US on a number of occasions, while the Russians (Soviets) utilized proxies to hit at US forces. So, in that respect, the threat feels much more imminent even though the comparative military capabilities of the Islamic terror groups like AQ are absolutely dwarfed by the Russian (Soviet) military. That the likes of AQ is more than willing to go after purely civilian targets than just military targets adds to the fear factor, even though during the Cold War - both the US and USSR targeted each others cities multiple times over as part of the MAD doctrine.

North Korea is a creation of the People's Republic of China and the Soviet Union. The Soviet Union did indeed throw equally heated rhetoric towards the USA throughout the Cold War. Soviet and Chinese Communism was front and center and causing headaches all across the world in Vietnam, Koreas, Timor, South and Central America, Cuba, Hungary, East Germany, and so on. There were even what once could call "cells" of Communist within our soil. The armies numbered millions and the technology was advanced including all of the ICBMs, Migs, tanks, chemical and biological warfare, etc.

Millions of people died during that time including the civilian deaths in Vietnam and Cambodia. It wasn't a matter of when they would have attacked -- they were already attacking and financing what would consider rogue states. Sure, MAD prevented a catastrophe but we did in fact come close to a nuclear exchange on at least two occasions. Spy aircraft were frequently shot down by the Russian during this time and 100s of American servicemen died in this endeavor alone.

There is nothing that can convince me that what happened during the Cold War comes even close to the threat of Al Qaeda and their 100,000 or so rag tag membership. They're capable of attaining high technology weapons such as a suit case nuke but that's still a "known unknown" an remains to come to fruition. We are effectively fighting a 19th Century enemy. Again, it's a real threat and a dangerous one. But it's not even close to the threats we've faced in our recent past.

434 Gretchen G.Tiger  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 10:22:06am

re: #433 Gus 802

North Korea is a creation of the People's Republic of China and the Soviet Union. The Soviet Union did indeed throw equally heated rhetoric towards the USA throughout the Cold War. Soviet and Chinese Communism was front and center and causing headaches all across the world in Vietnam, Koreas, Timor, South and Central America, Cuba, Hungary, East Germany, and so on. There were even what once could call "cells" of Communist within our soil. The armies numbered millions and the technology was advanced including all of the ICBMs, Migs, tanks, chemical and biological warfare, etc.

Millions of people died during that time including the civilian deaths in Vietnam and Cambodia. It wasn't a matter of when they would have attacked -- they were already attacking and financing what would consider rogue states. Sure, MAD prevented a catastrophe but we did in fact come close to a nuclear exchange on at least two occasions. Spy aircraft were frequently shot down by the Russian during this time and 100s of American servicemen died in this endeavor alone.

There is nothing that can convince me that what happened during the Cold War comes even close to the threat of Al Qaeda and their 100,000 or so rag tag membership. They're capable of attaining high technology weapons such as a suit case nuke but that's still a "known unknown" an remains to come to fruition. We are effectively fighting a 19th Century enemy. Again, it's a real threat and a dangerous one. But it's not even close to the threats we've faced in our recent past.

It's the unknown unknown that drives the permanently paranoid out of their minds. There is no secret handshake or symbol or membership card.

435 Gretchen G.Tiger  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 10:22:46am

re: #432 Killgore Trout

Heh. Good idea. When I was growing up overseas we often had to eat whatever showed up at the table. Not knowing local languages meant ordering meals was a shot in the dark. I quickly learned to eat whatever showed up or go hungry.

I would have gone hungry. Picky eater. Drove my mother crazy.

436 wrenchwench  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 10:24:18am

re: #432 Killgore Trout

Heh. Good idea. When I was growing up overseas we often had to eat whatever showed up at the table. Not knowing local languages meant ordering meals was a shot in the dark. I quickly learned to eat whatever showed up or go hungry.

My favorite mystery ordering experience was when the Italian waiter imitated a bunny rabbit. For some reason, I was thinking he meant lamb, until it showed up at the table. It was good, and I think the only time I've eaten bunny.

438 Lidane  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 10:26:04am

re: #435 ggt

I would have gone hungry. Picky eater. Drove my mother crazy.

I was picky in the sense that I HATED when she made liver & onions and she couldn't force the issue. I was also annoying about side dishes. If I didn't want it I didn't want it.

I'm still that way, too. Just because you cooked it doesn't mean I'm obligated to eat it. And I'm only going to take what I want and none of what I don't. Heh.

439 Lidane  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 10:27:59am

re: #432 Killgore Trout

Not knowing local languages meant ordering meals was a shot in the dark. I quickly learned to eat whatever showed up or go hungry.

That happened to me in Europe. Mom and I were at a French cafe and the waiter didn't speak English or Spanish. A total misreading of the menu ended up with me having a plate of steak tartare. Given how expensive it was, and the fact that I didn't want to be rude, I ended up eating it anyway.

440 garhighway  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 10:30:21am

re: #437 ggt

Utah Sen. Mike Lee: Pass balanced budget amendment or I won't vote to raise debt ceiling

Reminds me of this:

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441 Sheila Broflovski  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 10:31:36am

re: #435 ggt

I would have gone hungry. Picky eater. Drove my mother crazy.

Zedushka is such a picky eater that he refuses to taste any food that reminds him of something his mother forced him to eat.

I never forced my kids to eat something they didn't like. There was always peanut butter, or cheerios if they didn't want what was on the table. Another thing I did was teach each one of my kids how to perpare his/her favorite meal.

442 Killgore Trout  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 10:35:43am

re: #436 wrenchwench

My favorite mystery ordering experience was when the Italian waiter imitated a bunny rabbit. For some reason, I was thinking he meant lamb, until it showed up at the table. It was good, and I think the only time I've eaten bunny.

In Cairo ordered some sort of stew. When it arrive at the table we examined it, appeared to be rabbit. When we were done eating my dad arranged the leftover bones into what appeared to be a partial cat skeleton. It was delicious.

443 Killgore Trout  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 10:38:02am

re: #441 Alouette

Another thing I did was teach each one of my kids how to perpare his/her favorite meal.

I think that's very important. All this talk of making McDonald's more healthy, banning sodas, etc isn't really the problem. It's processed food in general. If people started cooking again instead of microwave meals and restaurants we'd all be a lot healthier.

444 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 10:38:11am

re: #435 ggt

I would have gone hungry. Picky eater. Drove my mother crazy.

I've always been a picky eater, but since starting to date the Mrs. Fish, I've actually been branching out a little bit. It shocked the living daylights out of my mother the first time we sat down to a table and I put some salad in a bowl, dressed it, and ate it.

445 Gus  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 10:38:11am

re: #442 Killgore Trout

In Cairo ordered some sort of stew. When it arrive at the table we examined it, appeared to be rabbit. When we were done eating my dad arranged the leftover bones into what appeared to be a partial cat skeleton. It was delicious.

OMG! Killgore at Buttons the cat!

//

446 Gus  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 10:38:27am

re: #445 Gus 802

OMG! Killgore ATE Buttons the cat!

//

Oops.

447 sagehen  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 10:39:15am

re: #427 Killgore Trout

"Fat Police?" Fox's War On Nutrition Continues With Outrage Over McDonald's Fruit, "Cultur[al]" Defense Of Mac And Cheese

When I stopped in Duane Reade the other day, it made me happy that right at the checkout counter was a huge basket of oranges and apples and bananas, for the same price as a candy bar. It was nice to have a healthy option right in my face for an impulse buy.

448 garhighway  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 10:41:15am

re: #447 sagehen

When I stopped in Duane Reade the other day, it made me happy that right at the checkout counter was a huge basket of oranges and apples and bananas, for the same price as a candy bar. It was nice to have a healthy option right in my face for an impulse buy.

There's a new Duane Reade on Wall St near the NYSE. It is the Taj Mahal of drug stores. It's unbelievable.

449 Semper Fi  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 10:45:57am

re: #441 Alouette

Another thing I did was teach each one of my kids how to perpare his/her favorite meal.


What a nice thoughtful idea.

450 Gretchen G.Tiger  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 10:48:18am

re: #443 Killgore Trout

I think that's very important. All this talk of making McDonald's more healthy, banning sodas, etc isn't really the problem. It's processed food in general. If people started cooking again instead of microwave meals and restaurants we'd all be a lot healthier.

Yeah, but cooking is work.

to me anyway.

451 Gretchen G.Tiger  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 10:50:16am

re: #436 wrenchwench

My favorite mystery ordering experience was when the Italian waiter imitated a bunny rabbit. For some reason, I was thinking he meant lamb, until it showed up at the table. It was good, and I think the only time I've eaten bunny.

hassenpfeffer!

452 Killgore Trout  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 10:51:24am

re: #450 ggt

Yeah, but cooking is work.

to me anyway.

I like cooking but I hate cleaning. I don't cook from scratch every night. Just once or twice a week. Enough for 3-4 days with enough leftover to put a couple portions in the freezer. That reminds me that most people probably eat something different for dinner every night. I think that's another part of the problem. That would be a lot of cooking.

453 darthstar  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 10:51:39am

re: #412 Gus 802

What about Barney the Dinosaur? Is he gay?

//

No, but his boyfriend is.

454 Olsonist  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 10:54:50am

re: #419 lawhawk

I'd disagree with the italicized section, if only because Iran and North Korea aren't acting as typical rational actors, and with their access and development of nuclear weapons (and in Iran's case, striving to achieve same), their inflamed rhetoric and leadership may actually utilize such weapons against the US or our interests in the affected regions or within range of their missiles.

Lawhawk, given our history with Iran, are you assuming that the United States has been a rational actor?

455 allegro  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 10:55:34am

re: #452 Killgore Trout

I like cooking but I hate cleaning. I don't cook from scratch every night. Just once or twice a week. Enough for 3-4 days with enough leftover to put a couple portions in the freezer. That reminds me that most people probably eat something different for dinner every night. I think that's another part of the problem. That would be a lot of cooking.

During my married years, about once a month I would spend a day cooking stuff like marinara sauce, meatloaf, stuffed peppers, black bean chili, breakfast burritos and anything else that would freeze well. It was fun blasting the music and playing with food all day. Always had something home cooked in the freezer for days I didn't feel like cooking.

456 Gretchen G.Tiger  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 10:58:15am

re: #455 allegro

During my married years, about once a month I would spend a day cooking stuff like marinara sauce, meatloaf, stuffed peppers, black bean chili, breakfast burritos and anything else that would freeze well. It was fun blasting the music and playing with food all day. Always had something home cooked in the freezer for days I didn't feel like cooking.

that really sounds like work.

I'm lucky to live in a metropolitan area where good food is easy to get carry-out.

No McD's for me.

457 Kragar  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 10:59:19am

Liberty Counsel spokesman: Liberalism Is The "Hatred For God"


While Barber tried to explain that he was only referring to liberal beliefs rather than liberals themselves, he went on to say that “their hearts are hardened, their hearts are blackened, and frankly I just feel sorry for them.”
458 Lidane  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 10:59:44am

re: #443 Killgore Trout

I think that's very important. All this talk of making McDonald's more healthy, banning sodas, etc isn't really the problem. It's processed food in general. If people started cooking again instead of microwave meals and restaurants we'd all be a lot healthier.

Ironically, one of the benefits of being a poor grad student has been an improvement in my eating habits. With my internship schedule, I'm on a semi-regular schedule for when I eat, I bring my lunch to work daily, and the lack of funds means that I go grocery shopping for the healthiest foods I can afford and I cook at home.

I also have all but eliminated fast foods apart from the occasional trip to Subway or some other sandwich shop. Fast food is expensive and I'd rather spend the same money on better food to cook with.

That's not to say I'm a saint. I'm still tremendously addicted to coffee and I drink a diet soda at lunch. And I still have a sweet tooth. I'm just trying to make better choices out of need instead of blowing it all on burgers and fries.

459 allegro  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 11:00:24am

re: #456 ggt

that really sounds like work.

Naw, it was very fun. I enjoy cooking for someone who enjoys eating good food, like my late husband did. Cooking is a wonderful creative outlet.

Picky eaters make me lose interest real quick though. They take the fun right out of it.

460 Gretchen G.Tiger  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 11:00:49am

re: #458 Lidane

Ironically, one of the benefits of being a poor grad student has been an improvement in my eating habits. With my internship schedule, I'm on a semi-regular schedule for when I eat, I bring my lunch to work daily, and the lack of funds means that I go grocery shopping for the healthiest foods I can afford and I cook at home.

I also have all but eliminated fast foods apart from the occasional trip to Subway or some other sandwich shop. Fast food is expensive and I'd rather spend the same money on better food to cook with.

That's not to say I'm a saint. I'm still tremendously addicted to coffee and I drink a diet soda at lunch. And I still have a sweet tooth. I'm just trying to make better choices out of need instead of blowing it all on burgers and fries.

The salad bar at the grocery store is cheap and good! I've even gone in a bought a single banana and a single yogurt. I could get the plastic spoon at the deli.

461 allegro  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 11:03:07am

re: #460 ggt

The salad bar at the grocery store is cheap and good! I've even gone in a bought a single banana and a single yogurt. I could get the plastic spoon at the deli.

Grocery store salad bars rock. I haven't seen one in years around here though.

462 allegro  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 11:05:13am

re: #457 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Liberty Counsel spokesman: Liberalism Is The "Hatred For God"

While Barber tried to explain that he was only referring to liberal beliefs rather than liberals themselves, he went on to say that “their hearts are hardened, their hearts are blackened, and frankly I just feel sorry for them.”

And up is down, black is white... he can keep his damn pity. He needs it more than us black-hearted liberals.

463 Lidane  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 11:06:53am

re: #460 ggt

The salad bar at the grocery store is cheap and good! I've even gone in a bought a single banana and a single yogurt. I could get the plastic spoon at the deli.

Those Greek yogurts with the granola are a godsend. One of those and a banana or orange is a typical breakfast. Salads, healthy soups, or portioned sandwich/pretzel/trail mix combos end up as lunch. Or I bring leftovers of whatever pasta dish we cooked at home the night before.

You know what else is surprisingly good? These. They run around $2 a pop. I buy a few when I go to the store and bring them in once a week, just because I love Chinese food and miss being able to get takeout all the time.

464 Gretchen G.Tiger  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 11:08:02am

re: #463 Lidane

Those Greek yogurts with the granola are a godsend. One of those and a banana or orange is a typical breakfast. Salads, healthy soups, or portioned sandwich/pretzel/trail mix combos end up as lunch. Or I bring leftovers of whatever pasta dish we cooked at home the night before.

You know what else is surprisingly good? These. They run around $2 a pop. I buy a few when I go to the store and bring them in once a week, just because I love Chinese food and miss being able to get takeout all the time.

eh, reminds me Ramen Noodles.

NEVER AGAIN!

465 allegro  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 11:09:30am

re: #463 Lidane

You know what else is surprisingly good? These. They run around $2 a pop. I buy a few when I go to the store and bring them in once a week, just because I love Chinese food and miss being able to get takeout all the time.

I LOVE those! Especially the pork pot stickers. Got a couple of packages of those just this morning along with some General Tso's chicken. yum.

466 Lidane  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 11:09:40am

re: #464 ggt

eh, reminds me Ramen Noodles.

NEVER AGAIN!

I hate Ramen. Waaay too salty. And they aren't filling at all. The Tai Pei meals are basically a plate full of fried rice, some kind of meat, and whatever sauce they've paired it with. They're not bad.

467 William of Orange  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 12:35:00pm

Wilders reacts to this massacre.

After several days of silence, PVV party leader Geert Wilders said in a statement that has nothing but revulsion about this heinous crime. I feel sick that he has referencing to him and his party. According to Wilders the manifest he's written shows here we're dealing with a mad man.

"The PVV nor me are responsible for this lone twisted idiot that has misused the peace loving anti-Islam ideals in this violent way, even though other people see it that way. We are democrats from head to toe."

"The Partij voor de Vrijheid has never and called to use violence and never will. We believe in the strength and wisdom of the voter. Not in bombs and guns. We fight in a democratic and peaceful Way against further Islamification of our society. Keeping society free and safe is out only goal."

According to Wilders this is a slap in the face of the worldwide anti-Islam movement that this crime was committed by this psychopath.

468 William of Orange  Tue, Jul 26, 2011 12:35:39pm

Oops, wrong topic. I'll move it.


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