Bon Iver: Michicant
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Today’s insanity break is Bon Iver’s video for their terrific song “Michicant,” from one of my albums of the year, Bon Iver.
Youtube Video
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Charles Johnson Sun, Jan 1, 2012 6:00:44pm |
Here's an interview with Justin Vernon (Bon Iver's frontman):
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Charles Johnson Sun, Jan 1, 2012 6:11:39pm |
Is everyone just stunned into silence by the sheer beauty of this song, or is there a big argument going on in another thread?
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sattv4u2 Sun, Jan 1, 2012 6:16:15pm |
re: #4 b_sharp
Wow, Sergey, that's the first time I've seen you speechless.
1st thing I've ever agreed with him on!!!
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Charles Johnson Sun, Jan 1, 2012 6:19:13pm |
Just got spammed on Twitter by a bot named 'Wasty Tudanca.'
Almost clicked the link because the name was so cool.
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freetoken Sun, Jan 1, 2012 6:22:29pm |
On the video - I like scenes with dark green woody areas. Certainly a break from the desert shrub surroundings in this part of the country.
Which takes me in the direction of a lament - I've come across several stumps of freshly cut trees lately. For some reason taking down trees seems to be in fashion around here. As if we have too many trees.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Jan 1, 2012 6:25:43pm |
re: #7 Charles
Just got spammed on Twitter by a bot named 'Wasty Tudanca.'
Almost clicked the link because the name was so cool.
Let me guess, the Stalkers are at it again with their Twitter bots.
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sattv4u2 Sun, Jan 1, 2012 6:26:17pm |
re: #8 freetoken
On the video - I like scenes with dark green woody areas. Certainly a break from the desert shrub surroundings in this part of the country.
Which takes me in the direction of a lament - I've come across several stumps of freshly cut trees lately. For some reason taking down trees seems to be in fashion around here. As if we have too many trees.
Lots of reasons for taking down trees
I had one whose roots were pushing up the street in front of my house. I had another that had some sort of disease and if I didn't cut it down it could have spread to other trees in my yard. Had yet another that was hit by lighting and what remained of the tree could have fallen onto others
I have, however, planted more trees on my property than I have cut down in the last decade
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Interesting Times Sun, Jan 1, 2012 6:27:02pm |
re: #8 freetoken
Speaking of things worthy of lament, did you see this? A major news network finally got around to covering the melting permafrost timebomb.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Jan 1, 2012 6:30:06pm |
re: #12 Dark_Falcon
MSNBC is not a major network, not compared to FNC, nor even to CNN. Their ratings are tiny.
That doesn't mean the article is wrong, of course.
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Interesting Times Sun, Jan 1, 2012 6:30:10pm |
re: #12 Dark_Falcon
It was a segment on NBC Nightly News with Brian Williams, the highest-rated of the 6:30 evening newscasts.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Jan 1, 2012 6:30:56pm |
re: #14 publicityStunted
It was a segment on NBC Nightly News with Brian Williams, the highest-rated of the 6:30 evening newscasts.
Post withdrawn. I ask that the downding be withdrawn as well.
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Interesting Times Sun, Jan 1, 2012 6:38:24pm |
re: #15 Dark_Falcon
Post withdrawn.
Thanks :) All the NBC news videos appear on the MSNBC website, so don't let the URL alone trick you.
re: #8 freetoken
If you were able to watch the video, do you think that geoengineering trick the Russian geophysicist is trying could actually work? I found it really hard to believe it could be that simple - you often "lament" how mainstream news does a lousy job covering the complexities of science, so I'd like to know what invariably is being left out of this report.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Jan 1, 2012 6:39:12pm |
Bradshaw can move! That was a 29 yard run to get the Giants into Cowboys territory.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Jan 1, 2012 6:40:40pm |
re: #16 publicityStunted
Thanks :) All the NBC news videos appear on the MSNBC website, so don't let the URL alone trick you.
re: #8 freetoken
If you were able to watch the video, do you think that geoengineering trick the Russian geophysicist is trying could actually work? I found it really hard to believe it could be that simple - you often "lament" how mainstream news does a lousy job covering the complexities of science, so I'd like to know what invariably is being left out of this report.
Thanks for the info. I had not known about that quirk of NBC. And thanks for the ding reversal.
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Charles Johnson Sun, Jan 1, 2012 6:44:48pm |
This October 20 post by Gus is getting a LOT of play on Twitter:
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sun, Jan 1, 2012 6:45:53pm |
re: #19 Charles
Yeah, it's a good kind of a sleeper.
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Gus Sun, Jan 1, 2012 6:50:06pm |
re: #19 Charles
This October 20 post by Gus is getting a LOT of play on Twitter:
Did I set a record? People are probably wondering about the context which is about today's front page at the Huffington Post which amounted to nothing but misinformed fear mongering designed to make the president look bad and increase traffic.
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Killgore Trout Sun, Jan 1, 2012 6:54:46pm |
re: #19 Charles
This October 20 post by Gus is getting a LOT of play on Twitter:
heh. When I first looked this morning there were maybe 50 tweets. Nice!
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Gus Sun, Jan 1, 2012 6:54:57pm |
Interesting:
White Supremacist Is Held In Ordering Judge's Death
By JODI WILGOREN
Published: January 09, 2003
Glenn Greenwald, a lawyer for Mr. Hale, said the charges filed today might stem from a misinterpretation of a statement by his client on the Internet that ''we are in a state of war with Judge Lefkow.''
''They are probably trying to take things he said along the lines of political advocacy and turn it into a crime,'' Mr. Greenwald said. ''The F.B.I. may have interpreted this protected speech as a threat against a federal judge, but it's probably nothing more than some heated rhetoric.''
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sattv4u2 Sun, Jan 1, 2012 6:55:55pm |
And on that note, the long quiet drive home beckons
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Killgore Trout Sun, Jan 1, 2012 6:59:02pm |
re: #23 Gus 802
Interesting:
White Supremacist Is Held In Ordering Judge's Death
By JODI WILGOREN
Published: January 09, 2003
Very interesting. My first thought was it might just be a shared name but he is a lawyer.
Glenn Greenwald
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Jan 1, 2012 6:59:55pm |
re: #23 Gus 802
Interesting:
White Supremacist Is Held In Ordering Judge's Death
By JODI WILGOREN
Published: January 09, 2003
Hale was ultimately sent to prison for his misdeeds. Now, that does not in and of itself say something bad about Glen Greenwald, since defending a scumbag in court does not make you a scumbag. But it does provide a useful digging point.
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Gus Sun, Jan 1, 2012 7:01:22pm |
re: #26 Dark_Falcon
Hale was ultimately sent to prison for his misdeeds. Now, that does not in and of itself say something bad about Glen Greenwald, since defending a scumbag in court does not make you a scumbag. But it does provide a useful digging point.
Never pass up the opportunity to engage in good old fashioned muck raking. In this case it's actually true since Glenn Greenwald is in fact a slime bucket.
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Killgore Trout Sun, Jan 1, 2012 7:03:44pm |
Scumbag MSM...
Police release security video in LA car fires case
No link to video
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jaunte Sun, Jan 1, 2012 7:03:47pm |
re: #27 Gus 802
Family of judge targeted by hate group murdered
March 1, 2005 -- The husband and mother of a federal judge who was targeted for assassination by World Church of the Creator (WCOTC) chieftain Matthew Hale were murdered inside her Chicago home, two years after white supremacists publicized her home address and photos of her family on the internet.
U.S. District Court Judge Joan Humphrey Lefkow came home from work and discovered the bodies of her husband, Chicago attorney Michael F. Lefkow, 64, and her mother, 89-year-old Donna Grace Humphrey, around 6 p.m. Monday.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Jan 1, 2012 7:05:39pm |
re: #27 Gus 802
Never pass up the opportunity to engage in good old fashioned muck raking. In this case it's actually true since Glenn Greenwald is in fact a slime bucket.
I'm not up for muckraking. The muck would stain my pants, and I don't want to pay the cleaning bill.
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Gus Sun, Jan 1, 2012 7:06:55pm |
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The Ghost of a Flea Sun, Jan 1, 2012 7:14:54pm |
re: #31 Gus 802
Damn. What a monster. Really says a lot about Greenwald IMO.
He's a civil libertarian from Bizarro World.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sun, Jan 1, 2012 7:16:48pm |
re: #31 Gus 802
Even monsters have to have lawyers. And that's basically why lawyers are not well-liked.
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Gus Sun, Jan 1, 2012 7:17:59pm |
re: #33 Sergey Romanov
Even monsters have to have lawyers. And that's basically why lawyers are not well-liked.
Yep. There's also the Obama/Drones/Ron Paul/Salon/NDAA context here which adds more insult to injury.
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Killgore Trout Sun, Jan 1, 2012 7:19:11pm |
re: #33 Sergey Romanov
Even monsters have to have lawyers. And that's basically why lawyers are not well-liked.
There are lawyers and there are advocates. See Lynn Sewart
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sun, Jan 1, 2012 7:20:20pm |
re: #34 Gus 802
I'm sure Hale didn't like to be represented by an openly gay Jewish man ;)
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sun, Jan 1, 2012 7:22:45pm |
re: #35 Killgore Trout
Oh, I know. I'm also reminded of Saddam's lawyer, who was doing much more than his job - because he was apologizing for Saddam already after the execution.
For now I only see GG doing his job. But maybe you can find something indicating advocacy too.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Jan 1, 2012 7:27:13pm |
re: #37 Sergey Romanov
Oh, I know. I'm also reminded of Saddam's lawyer, who was doing much more than his job - because he was apologizing for Saddam already after the execution.
For now I only see GG doing his job. But maybe you can find something indicating advocacy too.
I think that Greenwald is a loony, but it is true there is no evidence he approved of those murders or aided Hale in criminal activity or terrorist activity.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sun, Jan 1, 2012 7:28:44pm |
re: #38 Dark_Falcon
I don't even blame OJ's lawyers for getting him off. I don't think they approved of the murder either.
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Gus Sun, Jan 1, 2012 7:32:02pm |
re: #39 Sergey Romanov
I don't even blame OJ's lawyers for getting him off. I don't think they approved of the murder either.
What about a moral question? What if I told you that in my spare time I defend neo-Nazis?
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Gus Sun, Jan 1, 2012 7:33:31pm |
re: #40 Gus 802
What about a moral question? What if I told you that in my spare time I defend neo-Nazis?
And what if while doing or having done that I also have a side job judging others like the president or saying that Hitchens "has blood on his hands"...
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sun, Jan 1, 2012 7:36:22pm |
re: #40 Gus 802
What about a moral question? What if I told you that in my spare time I defend neo-Nazis?
If you were a lawyer, and you didn't defend solely neo-Nazis, I don't know why anybody would have a problem with that. Lawyers do their job.
Next thing you know we condemn ACLU for that Skokie march.
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Killgore Trout Sun, Jan 1, 2012 7:37:15pm |
Franz Liebkind
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sun, Jan 1, 2012 7:41:03pm |
re: #40 Gus 802
Of course, there's the issue of 'mafia lawyers' and their ilk. But that's not the case here.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Jan 1, 2012 7:41:56pm |
re: #42 Sergey Romanov
If you were a lawyer, and you didn't defend solely neo-Nazis, I don't know why anybody would have a problem with that. Lawyers do their job.
Next thing you know we condemn ACLU for that Skokie march.
That wasn't the only Skokie march, either. There was a KKK march in Skokie in December of 2000. I know I've told that story before, including how an assistant manager at the store I was working at at the time was arrested and fired for punching on of the Klansmen,
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Jan 1, 2012 7:42:39pm |
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Killgore Trout Sun, Jan 1, 2012 7:43:18pm |
re: #46 Dark_Falcon
That's our Hitler!
"I don't care how big this deal is, I'm not wearing this armband!"
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Jan 1, 2012 7:45:13pm |
re: #47 Killgore Trout
"I don't care how big this deal is, I'm not wearing this armband!"
Liebkind:"You've made a fool of Hitler!"
Roger Debris and Assistant: "He didn't need our help!"
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alpuz Sun, Jan 1, 2012 7:46:48pm |
Great song. Justin Vernon is from my hometown stomping grounds. He came out of a High School music program that has produced some great jazz musicians. Geoff Keezer being probably the most well known. I was fortunate enough to grow up playing music with, and around many people who played for/with that public school jazz program. Hat's off to Justin.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Sun, Jan 1, 2012 8:06:41pm |
Where is everyone? It's like everyone's gone off to catch up on sleep or something.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sun, Jan 1, 2012 8:09:20pm |
re: #50 EmmmieG
Where is everyone? It's like everyone's gone off to catch up on sleep or something.
contemplating the mysteries of the universe (+hangovers)
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Gus Sun, Jan 1, 2012 8:11:59pm |
re: #51 Sergey Romanov
contemplating the mysteries of the universe (+hangovers)
Methinks someone is mad about the responses to the Pat Condell video. Maybe?
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sun, Jan 1, 2012 8:13:31pm |
re: #52 Gus 802
Methinks someone is mad about the responses to the Pat Condell video. Maybe?
TBH? This is the second strike already, and that someone could already gather his shit together.
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Gus Sun, Jan 1, 2012 8:14:25pm |
re: #53 Sergey Romanov
TBH? This is the second strike already, and that someone could already gather his shit together.
EI
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sun, Jan 1, 2012 8:14:53pm |
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Sun, Jan 1, 2012 8:15:22pm |
The argument was interesting, but I have no intention of watching the video (headache, not holiday related).
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Gus Sun, Jan 1, 2012 8:16:56pm |
re: #28 Killgore Trout
Scumbag MSM...
Police release security video in LA car fires case
No link to video
[Link: abclocal.go.com...]
Starts around 0:45.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Jan 1, 2012 8:17:29pm |
re: #50 EmmmieG
Where is everyone? It's like everyone's gone off to catch up on sleep or something.
I'm watching the Giants-Cowboys game.
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Gus Sun, Jan 1, 2012 8:22:27pm |
re: #58 Gus 802
[Link: abclocal.go.com...]
Starts around 0:45.
[Link: losangeles.cbslocal.com...]
0:20
Not much detail.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Jan 1, 2012 8:26:42pm |
From Eli Manning to Hakeem Nicks for a NYG touchdown! Giants lead 31-14.
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Gus Sun, Jan 1, 2012 8:27:33pm |
Woman Allegedly Accuses Man With Arabic Surname Of Terrorist Plane Threat After He Ends 4-Day Fling
LOS ANGELES (CBS) — A 45-year-old Temple City woman is accused of providing false information to an airline in order to take revenge on a male passenger with whom she had a four-day fling.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sun, Jan 1, 2012 8:32:19pm |
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Sun, Jan 1, 2012 8:33:26pm |
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sun, Jan 1, 2012 8:34:13pm |
re: #52 Gus 802
Methinks someone is mad about the responses to the Pat Condell video. Maybe?
Oh dear. :runs to look:
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sun, Jan 1, 2012 8:35:08pm |
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Gus Sun, Jan 1, 2012 8:35:11pm |
re: #68 Slumbering Behemoth
Oh dear. :runs to look:
Hard to tell by just looking. Kind of judging by intuition here with the logging in and out.
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Charles Johnson Sun, Jan 1, 2012 8:35:35pm |
Romney's Huffington Post connection:
Something The Huffington Post didn't mention when it published its exclusive interview with Mitt Romney last Thursday: AOL CEO Tim Armstrong gave $2,500 — the maximum campaign contribution — to Romney earlier this year, according to the Federal Election Commission. ThinkProgress's Judd Legum noted the contribution, first reported by Little Green Footballs, today on Twitter.
Gus's post made news!
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Jan 1, 2012 8:35:37pm |
re: #62 Gus 802
Woman Allegedly Accuses Man With Arabic Surname Of Terrorist Plane Threat After He Ends 4-Day Fling
Maybe she should call Pam Geller for a shoulder to cry on:
Federal law enforcement capitulates to Islam!!1 Obama's corrupt government decides to prosecute a Real American woman for revealing the treacherous heart of an Evvill Muslim!!!1
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sun, Jan 1, 2012 8:36:06pm |
re: #70 Gus 802
Hard to tell by just looking. Kind of judging by intuition here with the logging in and out.
I noticed, something nervous about that, yes? It was so the last time too.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sun, Jan 1, 2012 8:36:52pm |
congrats, Gus! *cheers*
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Jan 1, 2012 8:37:12pm |
re: #71 Charles
Romney's Huffington Post connection:
Gus's post made news!
Little Green Footballs: The blog so irrelevant its stories end up on Politico!
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CuriousLurker Sun, Jan 1, 2012 8:37:39pm |
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Gus Sun, Jan 1, 2012 8:38:22pm |
re: #71 Charles
Romney's Huffington Post connection:
Gus's post made news!
This is great. Something that I posted in October and made it this far and starting with a Tweet to Shoq which was soon picked up by Think Progress. Off it went and it now has over 1000 Tweets.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sun, Jan 1, 2012 8:38:25pm |
re: #67 EmmmieG
This is why we do not have flings with crazy womens.
Baaad idea.
You got a mouse in your pocket?
/:P
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sun, Jan 1, 2012 8:40:42pm |
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sun, Jan 1, 2012 8:41:35pm |
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Gus Sun, Jan 1, 2012 8:41:39pm |
Yeah. Of course "Tim Armstrong plays no editorial role". No chit. Doesn't matter though. It's a matter of appearances. The CEO is a Romney guy Arianna.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sun, Jan 1, 2012 8:41:51pm |
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Jan 1, 2012 8:42:07pm |
re: #82 Gus 802
My Obama-Check™ should arrive this week.
//
You Obamunist! You Peronist Progresssive!!1
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sun, Jan 1, 2012 8:43:40pm |
butterfly effect
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Gus Sun, Jan 1, 2012 8:45:35pm |
It's a free market result as well. Which means the money that Huffington Post makes is, in a way, going to finance the Romney campaign.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sun, Jan 1, 2012 8:45:38pm |
[Link: www.chicagotribune.com...]
Benjamin Colton Barnes is a "strong person of interest" in the shooting of park ranger Magaret Anderson at Mount Rainier on Sunday. He is suspected to be armed and at large in Mount Rainier National Park.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sun, Jan 1, 2012 8:47:09pm |
re: #91 Sergey Romanov
ptsd?
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sun, Jan 1, 2012 8:47:10pm |
re: #91 Sergey Romanov
I bet he has an islamic sounding name, too.
/old joke
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sun, Jan 1, 2012 8:51:39pm |
are these mortal sins on his neck?
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sun, Jan 1, 2012 8:52:36pm |
re: #94 Sergey Romanov
i see gluttony and envy, but mebbe i'm just "seeing things"?
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Interesting Times Sun, Jan 1, 2012 8:52:59pm |
re: #78 Gus 802
This is great. Something that I posted in October and made it this far and starting with a Tweet to Shoq which was soon picked up by Think Progress. Off it went and it now has over 1000 Tweets.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sun, Jan 1, 2012 8:53:01pm |
re: #95 Sergey Romanov
also, lust.
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Gus Sun, Jan 1, 2012 8:54:12pm |
Ah ha! Check this out Sergey:
Glenn Greenwald Unethically Taped Witnesses While Working for Matt Hale, White Supremacist.
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Decatur Deb Sun, Jan 1, 2012 8:54:15pm |
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Interesting Times Sun, Jan 1, 2012 8:54:59pm |
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Gus Sun, Jan 1, 2012 8:55:06pm |
re: #98 Gus 802
Ah ha! Check this out Sergey:
Glenn Greenwald Unethically Taped Witnesses While Working for Matt Hale, White Supremacist.
"The magistrate judge granted both motions, finding defense counsel's conduct unethical under two separate rules: Local Rule 83.58.4(a)(4), prohibiting "dishonesty, fraud, deceit or misrepresentation;" and Local Rule 83.54.4, stating "a lawyer shall not ... use methods of obtaining evidence that violate the legal rights of person.""ANDERSON v. HALE 159 F.Supp.2d 1116 (2001)
[Link: www.leagle.com...]
He also attempted to manipulate the witness statements, per the magistrate's findings of fact-
"A 52-page transcript of one conversation showed defendants' counsel steered the conversation by eliciting particular responses to detailed questions, leading to more detailed questions, to lure the witness into damning statements for later use." Anderson v. Hale, 202 F.R.D. 548 (N.D.Ill. 2001),
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Jan 1, 2012 8:56:02pm |
re: #100 publicityStunted
The hell? Is he trying to copycat this movie? o_O
Not as inventive. Just an asshole with a gun.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Jan 1, 2012 8:56:26pm |
re: #101 Gus 802
"The magistrate judge granted both motions, finding defense counsel's conduct unethical under two separate rules: Local Rule 83.58.4(a)(4), prohibiting "dishonesty, fraud, deceit or misrepresentation;" and Local Rule 83.54.4, stating "a lawyer shall not ... use methods of obtaining evidence that violate the legal rights of person.""ANDERSON v. HALE 159 F.Supp.2d 1116 (2001)
[Link: www.leagle.com...]
He also attempted to manipulate the witness statements, per the magistrate's findings of fact-
"A 52-page transcript of one conversation showed defendants' counsel steered the conversation by eliciting particular responses to detailed questions, leading to more detailed questions, to lure the witness into damning statements for later use." Anderson v. Hale, 202 F.R.D. 548 (N.D.Ill. 2001),
Why wasn't he disbarred?
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blueraven Sun, Jan 1, 2012 8:57:17pm |
re: #91 Sergey Romanov
[Link: www.chicagotribune.com...]
More here
Pierce County Sheriff's spokesman Ed Troyer said late Sunday afternoon Benjamin Colton Barnes, a 24-year-old believed to have survivalist skills, was a "strong person of interest" in the slaying of Margaret Anderson. A parks spokesman said Barnes was an Iraq war veteran. Authorities recovered his vehicle, which had weapons and body armor inside, Troyer said.
Barnes was also a suspect in the early Sunday morning shooting of four people at a house party in Skway, police said.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sun, Jan 1, 2012 8:58:13pm |
re: #98 Gus 802
Ah ha! Check this out Sergey:
Glenn Greenwald Unethically Taped Witnesses While Working for Matt Hale, White Supremacist.
bingo! that's what i call a good argument.
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Gus Sun, Jan 1, 2012 8:58:44pm |
re: #106 Sergey Romanov
bingo! that's what i call a good argument.
What's wrong with my two-word or one-finger argument?
//
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Sun, Jan 1, 2012 9:00:10pm |
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sun, Jan 1, 2012 9:00:32pm |
re: #93 Slumbering Behemoth
I bet he has an islamic sounding name, too.
/old joke
For those that may not get it...
The dudes name is right there in Sergey's post. Any way, a few years back, before all the creationists flounced, there was a news story here some dead dude found in a hotel room, died from the ricin that he was making.
Early on in the discussion thread, someone linked a new news report with the dead suspects name. I can't remember it, nor even pronounce it. It was clearly nordic in origin.
So like a good 60 to 80 comments later there were still people cracking off about how they bet the dude has and islamic or middle eastern sounding name, and I was all like "FFS, RTFA!!!"
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Gus Sun, Jan 1, 2012 9:01:52pm |
re: #106 Sergey Romanov
bingo! that's what i call a good argument.
1 GLENN E. GREENWALD 2689883 NEW YORK NY 1995 Suspended
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sun, Jan 1, 2012 9:03:36pm |
re: #110 Gus 802
Is that the same guy that got busted making a bunch of sock puppets on his own blog so it looked like more people agreed with him than actually did?
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Gus Sun, Jan 1, 2012 9:04:31pm |
re: #110 Gus 802
1 GLENN E. GREENWALD 2689883 NEW YORK NY 1995 Suspended
Year Admitted in NY: 1995
Appellate Division Department of Admission: 1
Law School: NYU
Registration Status: Suspended
Next Registration: Mar 2013
Same school, NYU.
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Gus Sun, Jan 1, 2012 9:04:50pm |
re: #111 Slumbering Behemoth
Is that the same guy that got busted making a bunch of sock puppets on his own blog so it looked like more people agreed with him than actually did?
Allegedly, yes.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Sun, Jan 1, 2012 9:04:55pm |
re: #111 Slumbering Behemoth
Is that the same guy that got busted making a bunch of sock puppets on his own blog so it looked like more people agreed with him than actually did?
With my luck, I'd try that and the sock puppets would eat all my snacks, call me a moron, and track mud into the place.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sun, Jan 1, 2012 9:05:34pm |
re: #114 EmmmieG
With my luck, I'd try that and the sock puppets would eat all my snacks, call me a moron, and track mud into the place.
rofl
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sun, Jan 1, 2012 9:07:35pm |
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Jan 1, 2012 9:08:36pm |
re: #112 Gus 802
Year Admitted in NY: 1995
Appellate Division Department of Admission: 1
Law School: NYU
Registration Status: Suspended
Next Registration: Mar 2013Same school, NYU.
His registration should be suspended. The man is an unethical douche.
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Gus Sun, Jan 1, 2012 9:11:53pm |
re: #117 Dark_Falcon
His registration should be suspended. The man is an unethical douche.
Yep. I'm kind of wondering why he's really in Brazil right now. He blames the gay marriage thing and civil rights and all that.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sun, Jan 1, 2012 9:13:44pm |
re: #118 Gus 802
Do you suspect something of the nature of illegal tourism?
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Gus Sun, Jan 1, 2012 9:14:19pm |
re: #119 Slumbering Behemoth
Do you suspect something of the nature of illegal tourism?
Nah. Was thinking financial. Maybe taxes. Probably nothing.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sun, Jan 1, 2012 9:15:11pm |
santorum surges
ugg
ppp poll for dec 31
Paul: 20 (24)
Romney: 19 (20)
Santorum: 18 (10)
Gingrich: 14 (13)
Perry: 10 (10)
Bachmann: 8 (11)
Huntsman: 4 (4)
Roemer: 2 (2)
Other: 4 (5)
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sun, Jan 1, 2012 9:16:07pm |
"roemer"? wazzat?
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sun, Jan 1, 2012 9:17:08pm |
dailykos pun:
Is Rick Santorum about to snag a
come from behind victory?
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Jan 1, 2012 9:18:11pm |
re: #118 Gus 802
Yep. I'm kind of wondering why he's really in Brazil right now. He blames the gay marriage thing and civil rights and all that.
"You'll find your happiness in Rio,
The beaches there a strewn with pearls!
The tropic breezes always blow there,
and so we here do the girls does Glen Greenwald's ethics!"
/Going back to our "Producers" theme from earlier, with a slight edit to smack that jackass Greenwald.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sun, Jan 1, 2012 9:21:22pm |
kossacks can be dumbasses on some issues, but they're smarter than sully or gg on paul:
[Link: www.dailykos.com...]
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sun, Jan 1, 2012 9:24:54pm |
re: #126 Sergey Romanov
You had me at "kossacks can be dumbasses".
;P
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Jan 1, 2012 9:25:21pm |
re: #126 Sergey Romanov
kossacks can be dumbasses on some issues, but they're smarter than sully or gg on paul:
[Link: www.dailykos.com...]
Being smarter than Glen Greenwald when it comes to Ron Paul is a pretty low bar. I don't have to be able to get your foot more than 6 inches off the ground to clear it.
But that does indeed put the Kos above the Paulbots, whose strategy for clearing the low bar is to dig a tunnel under it.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sun, Jan 1, 2012 9:26:44pm |
re: #128 Dark_Falcon
hehe.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sun, Jan 1, 2012 9:29:48pm |
what i saw in wearechange trutherist clips with paul and moore is at the very least the insistent pandering to the looniest loons - even more so in moore's case, since he outright repeats the truther memes. both of them should not be indignant if their rather poor record is questioned.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sun, Jan 1, 2012 9:30:14pm |
re: #128 Dark_Falcon
Being smarter than Glen Greenwald when it comes to Ron Paul is a pretty low bar. I don't have to be able to get your foot more than 6 inches off the ground to clear it.
But that does indeed put the Kos above the Paulbots, whose strategy for clearing the low bar is to dig a tunnel under it.
I'm sorry DF, but you are dead wrong. Six inches? Try lower. A zombie could shuffle over the GG-RP bar.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sun, Jan 1, 2012 9:32:32pm |
Stop lurking and come out her and kiss me, CL. I didn't get enough sharia from my Butterball turkey this xmas.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Jan 1, 2012 9:32:44pm |
re: #131 Gus 802
See if it floats. Bwahahahaha!
If the word is lighter than a duck, it will float. If not, your tweets will be turned against you and you will be transformed into a newt. But even then, in time you'll get better.
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Mich-again Sun, Jan 1, 2012 9:32:50pm |
Well the name of the song grabbed my attention, ha. so I give it a listen and loved it. Really nice, thanks Charles.
It took a few times reading the lyrics to kinda figure out what they're about. It hits home for me.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sun, Jan 1, 2012 9:35:43pm |
re: #135 Dark_Falcon
If the word is lighter than a duck, it will float. If not, your tweets will be turned against you and you will be transformed into a newt. But even then, in time you'll get better.
and then the aural sex!
//
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Gus Sun, Jan 1, 2012 9:35:45pm |
re: #135 Dark_Falcon
If the word is lighter than a duck, it will float. If not, your tweets will be turned against you and you will be transformed into a newt. But even then, in time you'll get better.
It's light. Always frame a rhetorical mortar in the form of a question.
//"Is this who you're talking about?"
//
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Jan 1, 2012 9:38:30pm |
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sun, Jan 1, 2012 9:39:55pm |
re: #137 Sergey Romanov
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sun, Jan 1, 2012 9:40:25pm |
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sun, Jan 1, 2012 9:42:56pm |
re: #141 Sergey Romanov
I am sooo questing for the Holy Grail tomorrow.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sun, Jan 1, 2012 9:44:21pm |
re: #142 Slumbering Behemoth
noti-noti
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sun, Jan 1, 2012 9:45:49pm |
"Look, let me go back in there and face the peril"
Too many years have passed since I watched that movie.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Jan 1, 2012 9:46:07pm |
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sun, Jan 1, 2012 9:46:58pm |
re: #145 Dark_Falcon
You say that like it's a bad thing.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Jan 1, 2012 9:47:14pm |
re: #144 Slumbering Behemoth
"Look, let me go back in there and face the peril"
Too many years have passed since I watched that movie.
"We'll not risk another frontal attack, that rabbit's dynamite!"
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Jan 1, 2012 9:47:43pm |
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Gus Sun, Jan 1, 2012 9:48:50pm |
This is funny. From that Politico story to my link:
AOL's been hemorrhaging money ever since it split off from Time Warner. My guess is that this was leaked to help force Armstrong out the door.
Of course, if he had donated to Obama instead of Romney, this would be a complete non-story.
Uh...NO!
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sun, Jan 1, 2012 9:49:01pm |
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Gus Sun, Jan 1, 2012 9:49:53pm |
And it's not a leak Sherlock! That's public information from the FEC. Duh-e!
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sun, Jan 1, 2012 9:49:56pm |
re: #149 Gus 802
This is funny. From that Politico story to my link:
Uh...NO!
now we know, Gus, now we know
muahahaha
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Gus Sun, Jan 1, 2012 9:53:01pm |
re: #152 Sergey Romanov
now we know, Gus, now we know
muahahaha
It's hilarious. Someone turns that information into a conspiracy within minutes. Yeah, I'm in cahoots with the people that want to take over Time-Warner. Uh huh. I leaked it back in October and sat here waiting for the right moment when AOL started "hemorrhaging money."
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sun, Jan 1, 2012 9:53:14pm |
conspiracists
sad bunch.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Jan 1, 2012 9:54:06pm |
re: #151 Gus 802
And it's not a leak Sherlock! That's public information from the FEC. Duh-e!
Another internet reporter who dreams of being Bob Woodward, only to trip over clearly stated facts and land an Epic Fail Faceplant.
| 156 |
Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sun, Jan 1, 2012 9:54:12pm |
re: #149 Gus 802
"If it were (R) instead of (D)".
"If it were (D) instead of (R)".
These crap hypotheticals get tiresome after a while.
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Gus Sun, Jan 1, 2012 9:55:14pm |
re: #155 Dark_Falcon
Another internet reporter who dreams of being Bob Woodward, only to trip over clearly stated facts and land an Epic Fail Faceplant.
Apparently he missed the "posted in October" part. Being an internet sleuth and all. ;)
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sun, Jan 1, 2012 9:55:48pm |
re: #157 Gus 802
Apparently he missed the posted in October part. Being an internet sleuth and all. ;)
"ur internetz r fakid"
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sun, Jan 1, 2012 9:56:53pm |
(if anyone wonders about capitalization, i'm on a tablet+lazy)
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sun, Jan 1, 2012 9:57:49pm |
re: #157 Gus 802
That's how devious you are. You can see into the future, and knew it would take this guy that long to catch on, thus finalizing your Time-Warner takeover victory.
/
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freetoken Sun, Jan 1, 2012 9:58:36pm |
I've just encountered some amazing price increases at Amazon.
Lately I've been buying my protein and fiber supplements from there. The protein I usually buy Amazon has raised their prices by about 60% since last month! The same product is available by other vendors through Amazon, but even their prices have gone up about 10%.
It's now cheaper to buy locally.
Serious food price inflation? In part, yes. But I suspect the popularity may have driven the price increase too.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sun, Jan 1, 2012 9:58:42pm |
re: #159 Sergey Romanov
(if anyone wonders about capitalization, i'm on a tablet+lazy)
In true internet fashion, I will not give a shit until you make a valid point that I can not refute.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sun, Jan 1, 2012 9:59:34pm |
hmm
[Link: lippard.blogspot.com...]
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Gus Sun, Jan 1, 2012 10:01:14pm |
re: #160 Slumbering Behemoth
That's how devious you are. You can see into the future, and knew it would take this guy that long to catch on, thus finalizing your Time-Warner takeover victory.
/
I wish I was in that position. Given that I would be demanding a pretty penny for those services. Say in the neighborhood of 100K/year. I'm open to suggestions. Otherwise, I was just thinking about how I used to loathe Arianna Huffington back when she was some kind of born-again wingnut married to her closeted gay Republican congressman/husband. I still think she's a bit of a fraud and ripped off a lot of her old contributors to the Huffington Post. Sold them out for what? Close to 300 million? Another windfall since the last time with her divorce settlement. That and knowing that Andrew Breitbart helped start HuffPo. It's all pretty weird.
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freetoken Sun, Jan 1, 2012 10:01:51pm |
Also up about 10% since I ordered a couple of months ago is my favorite chocolate:
[Link: www.amazon.com...]
I fear that a "recovered" economy could mean much higher prices for food and energy.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sun, Jan 1, 2012 10:01:51pm |
re: #163 Sergey Romanov
Wow. I guess they know their target markets. Wow.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sun, Jan 1, 2012 10:01:53pm |
"-" -> "+" = surabaya stew
;)
| 168 |
Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sun, Jan 1, 2012 10:02:57pm |
re: #164 Gus 802
It's an incestuous business, I guess.
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Gus Sun, Jan 1, 2012 10:02:58pm |
re: #163 Sergey Romanov
hmm
[Link: lippard.blogspot.com...]
Why in the world does that surprise people? Different geographic locations; different demographics or markets.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Jan 1, 2012 10:03:23pm |
re: #157 Gus 802
Apparently he missed the "posted in October" part. Being an internet sleuth and all. ;)
He was so eager to put on his "Discoverer of the New Watergate" hat on that he forgot the keep advice from the original Watergate: "Follow the money." Since there was no money (Gus hasn't been paid for this story), there logically should be no conspiracy. But he refused to let logic get between him and a scoop, and thus put his foot right into it.
Or did he? His conspiracy meme will likely spread faster than the truth. So the real question is: Will Politico issue a correction once they are advised of the facts, or will they try for an "OUTRAGEOUS OUTRAGE!!1" short-term traffic surge. I hope and expect that Politico will uphold its standards and do the former
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Gus Sun, Jan 1, 2012 10:04:25pm |
re: #170 Dark_Falcon
He was so eager to put on his "Discoverer of the New Watergate" hat on that he forgot the keep advice from the original Watergate: "Follow the money." Since there was no money (Gus hasn't been paid for this story), there logically should be no conspiracy. But he refused to let logic get between him and a scoop, and thus put his foot right into it.
Or did he? His conspiracy meme will likely spread faster than the truth. So the real question is: Will Politico issue a correction once they are advised of the facts, or will they try for an "OUTRAGEOUS OUTRAGE!!1" short-term traffic surge. I hope and expect that Politico will uphold its standards and do the former
Yeah. That hat was the first piece of evidence. The closer it gets to a Fedora the deeper the thinking gets.
//
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sun, Jan 1, 2012 10:04:37pm |
re: #169 Gus 802
I found it kind of surprising. But then again, I don't get out of CA much these days.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sun, Jan 1, 2012 10:04:40pm |
re: #169 Gus 802
Why in the world does that surprise people? Different geographic locations; different demographics or markets.
2 markets it seems - the US and the rest of the world ;)
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sun, Jan 1, 2012 10:06:13pm |
re: #174 Gus 802
Fuck you. I was young, and needed the money.
/wait, what?
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Jan 1, 2012 10:06:56pm |
re: #173 Sergey Romanov
2 markets it seems - the US and the rest of the world ;)
We aren't even close to the craziest market: you have to go to the Middle East to see a great market for truly insane "OUTRAGEOUS OUTRAGE!!1" stories.
| 177 |
Gus Sun, Jan 1, 2012 10:07:06pm |
re: #175 Slumbering Behemoth
Fuck you. I was young, and needed the money.
/wait, what?
Yeah I know. I used to own a felt hat and thought Colin Fletcher was God! :)
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Jan 1, 2012 10:08:57pm |
re: #171 Gus 802
Yeah. That hat was the first piece of evidence. The closer it gets to a Fedora the deeper the thinking gets.
//
Seriously, though: You should write Politico and let them know about the error in their story. Charles would likely help you, if asked.
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Gus Sun, Jan 1, 2012 10:09:35pm |
re: #178 Dark_Falcon
Seriously, though: You should write Politico and let them know about the error in their story. Charles would likely help you, if asked.
Oh that was just a comment.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sun, Jan 1, 2012 10:09:39pm |
re: #177 Gus 802
Heh. Could be worse. I used to own a felt hat, from Banana Republic no less, and thought Tony Iommi was god.
Man, I was such a dork.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Sun, Jan 1, 2012 10:10:09pm |
loool
| 182 |
Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sun, Jan 1, 2012 10:10:31pm |
re: #180 Slumbering Behemoth
Heh. Could be worse. I used to own a felt hat, from Banana Republic no less, and thought Tony Iommi was god.
Man, I was such a dork.
I also wore my grandpa's old trench coat.
| 183 |
Dark_Falcon Sun, Jan 1, 2012 10:11:39pm |
re: #179 Gus 802
Oh that was just a comment.
Sorry, but that wasn't clear from your post. Please excuse my error.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sun, Jan 1, 2012 10:11:57pm |
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Gus Sun, Jan 1, 2012 10:11:58pm |
re: #180 Slumbering Behemoth
Heh. Could be worse. I used to own a felt hat, from Banana Republic no less, and thought Tony Iommi was god.
Man, I was such a dork.
I saw Tomita once. I even went to hear Mike Farrell speak once. That was a little strange since he ended his presentation with "I love you all" kind of thing.
| 187 |
Dark_Falcon Sun, Jan 1, 2012 10:13:21pm |
re: #182 Slumbering Behemoth
I also wore my grandpa's old trench coat.
"Here's lookin' at you, kid."
I had to say it.
| 188 |
Gus Sun, Jan 1, 2012 10:13:30pm |
I left a portfolio once to illustrate a Colin Fletcher book. Some eccentric art agent in San Francisco.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sun, Jan 1, 2012 10:15:46pm |
re: #187 Dark_Falcon
The felt hat I had was more Indiana Jones than Rick Blaine, which made me an even bigger dork.
| 191 |
Gus Sun, Jan 1, 2012 10:16:56pm |
re: #190 Slumbering Behemoth
The felt hat I had was more Indiana Jones than Rick Blaine, which made me an even bigger dork.
Ah youth. I used to take myself too seriously once. We all slowly turn into our fathers.
| 192 |
Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sun, Jan 1, 2012 10:18:04pm |
re: #190 Slumbering Behemoth
The felt hat I had was more Indiana Jones than Rick Blaine, which made me an even bigger dork.
This was back in HS. Worse yet? There was another kid at school trying to copy my style, and it made me angry because I was proud of my "style".
Such. A. Dork.
| 194 |
Dark_Falcon Sun, Jan 1, 2012 10:20:00pm |
re: #190 Slumbering Behemoth
The felt hat I had was more Indiana Jones than Rick Blaine, which made me an even bigger dork.
A dorkiness retroactively increased with each Lucas/Spielberg edit. ;)
| 195 |
Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sun, Jan 1, 2012 10:20:28pm |
re: #191 Gus 802
Ah youth. I used to take myself too seriously once. We all slowly turn into our fathers.
Not me. Lets see here...
Never hit a woman? Check.
Never turned dead beat on child support? Check. (hell, I've never even had kids)
Never laid out a five year old for using too much toilet paper? Check.
Nope, not turning into my father. Thank Gravel.
| 196 |
freetoken Sun, Jan 1, 2012 10:21:17pm |
re: #193 Gus 802
Never got into Dr. Who though.
Some years it just wasn't very good. I remember watching it on PBS when Pertwee was the Doctor. He and his successor were my two favorite actors for the part, but the current one is pretty good too.
Until the rebirth of the series in 2005 the writing was strongly geared towards the young. The new production greatly modernized the show - it's hard to compare to the older versions.
| 197 |
Dark_Falcon Sun, Jan 1, 2012 10:21:46pm |
re: #195 Slumbering Behemoth
Not me. Lets see here...
Never hit a woman? Check.
Never turned dead beat on child support? Check. (hell, I've never even had kids)
Never laid out a five year old for using too much toilet paper? Check.Nope, not turning into my father. Thank Gravel.
Sorry you had to live through that, SB.
| 198 |
Kragar Sun, Jan 1, 2012 10:21:51pm |
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sun, Jan 1, 2012 10:23:08pm |
re: #193 Gus 802
Never got into Dr. Who though.
Dear Gravel, I had nearly forgot. I also wore a really long scarf during the winter that a friend of mine dubbed the Dr. Who scarf.
When you get that time machine working, let me know. I want to go back in time, kick my teenage ass, and illustrate to him exactly why he wasn't getting laid back then.
| 200 |
Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sun, Jan 1, 2012 10:24:15pm |
re: #197 Dark_Falcon
It's whatever, bro. I never got molested or anything like that, so I count myself lucky. There are more people than you know who can't say the same.
| 202 |
Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Sun, Jan 1, 2012 10:27:44pm |
re: #201 Gus 802
So wait, are they bias targeting muslims for the crimes, or are muslims being targeted by biased crimes?
| 203 |
Gus Sun, Jan 1, 2012 10:28:40pm |
Four Attacks in Queens With Homemade Firebombs
A wave of arson attacks spread across eastern Queens on Sunday night, and the police said the firebombings were being investigated as bias crimes — with Muslims as the targets.
No one was hurt in the four attacks, in which homemade firebombs were apparently used. In three of the four attacks, the police said, Molotov cocktails were made with Starbucks bottles.
The first attack occurred just before 8 p.m. at a bodega at 179-40 Hillside Avenue.
Ten minutes later, another crude firebomb was thrown, this time at a private home at 146-62 107th Avenue, and the house caught fire.
Half an hour after that, an Islamic center at 89-89 Van Wyck Expressway was the target. The last attack occurred at a house at 88-20 170th Street, the police said...
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Gus Sun, Jan 1, 2012 10:35:38pm |
re: #202 Slumbering Behemoth
So wait, are they bias targeting muslims for the crimes, or are muslims being targeted by biased crimes?
Some nut driving around Queens targeting Muslims.
| 206 |
Kragar Sun, Jan 1, 2012 10:35:50pm |
re: #203 Gus 802
Starbucks bottles? What happened to the good ole days of empty Jack Daniels bottles?
| 207 |
Gus Sun, Jan 1, 2012 10:43:01pm |
re: #206 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Starbucks bottles? What happened to the good ole days of empty Jack Daniels bottles?
I'm so tired of the hate. Everywhere.
| 208 |
Gus Sun, Jan 1, 2012 10:52:03pm |
I killed the thread. I wish I didn't have this Superman complex.
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The Ghost of a Flea Sun, Jan 1, 2012 10:54:52pm |
re: #199 Slumbering Behemoth
Dear Gravel, I had nearly forgot. I also wore a really long scarf during the winter that a friend of mine dubbed the Dr. Who scarf.
When you get that time machine working, let me know. I want to go back in time, kick my teenage ass, and illustrate to him exactly why he wasn't getting laid back then.
I think predestination paradox dictates I need a ride in that time machine. Otherwise it makes no sense how my teenage self managed to dress (voluntarily) like the Tenth and Eleventh Doctors...eighteen someodd years ago.
| 211 |
Capt. Kuhn Sun, Jan 1, 2012 10:55:22pm |
I'm just lurking trying to get a feel for this place. Happy New Years Day.
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Jan 1, 2012 10:56:29pm |
re: #206 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Starbucks bottles? What happened to the good ole days of empty Jack Daniels bottles?
Bottles of Jack cost too much these days:
Damn taxes! Government traitors make 'em so high a Real American can't hardly buy the supplies needed to put the [bigoted word]s in their place!
/
On a serious note, this sort of attack does remind me of some the attacks the KKK used to mount. The attack on the mosque reminds me of what I've read about Birmingham, AL back in the Bad Old Days.
| 213 |
The Ghost of a Flea Sun, Jan 1, 2012 10:56:32pm |
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Kragar Sun, Jan 1, 2012 11:01:27pm |
re: #209 BigPapa
I'm here playing the Strong Silent Overlord. Carry on.
Hiding from the wife here. She wants to have words with me after I watched Airplane and Young Frankenstein with the kids.
| 216 |
The Ghost of a Flea Sun, Jan 1, 2012 11:03:35pm |
re: #215 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Hiding from the wife here. She wants to have words with me after I watched Airplane and Young Frankenstein with the kids.
...because you want your children to have good taste and a discerning sense of humor?
[Night, all.]
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Kragar Sun, Jan 1, 2012 11:04:45pm |
re: #216 The Ghost of a Flea
...because you want your children to have good taste and a discerning sense of humor?
[Night, all.]
Because one keeps saying "BLUCHER!" and the other keeps whinnying like a horse and its driving her nuts.
| 219 |
Kragar Sun, Jan 1, 2012 11:09:52pm |
re: #218 BigPapa
Is she afraid they might learn Jive?
Worse. Whenever my wife tells my 8 year old anything, she gets this:
"Clean up that mess."
"Looks like I picked the wrong week to stop cleaning up."
| 220 |
JAFO Sun, Jan 1, 2012 11:19:27pm |
Happy New Year with Steven Tyler, Alice Cooper and Weird Al.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Mon, Jan 2, 2012 1:18:37am |
re: #222 freetoken
what is this?
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freetoken Mon, Jan 2, 2012 1:22:09am |
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Obdicut Mon, Jan 2, 2012 2:24:58am |
A nice slice of bizarreness: one of the mourners at Kim's memorial was wearing a Yankees hat.
[Link: espn.go.com...]
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Kragar Mon, Jan 2, 2012 2:33:56am |
Bachmann hides from OWS protestors
Things got a little crazier than usual yesterday at Michele Bachmann's campaign HQ in Iowa. A few dozen people associated with Occupy Iowa turned up to protest outside her offices, and, unwilling to face them, Bachmann did the political equivalent of hiding under the bed.
Because anything she doesn't like must automatically be the work of Barack Obama's socialist devil army, Bachmann gave her theory on where the protesters came from:
The people outside are President Obama's re-election advance team. That's what you're seeing outside. What they recognize is that I'm the greatest threat to Barack Obama's re-election and I intend to be.
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RogueOne Mon, Jan 2, 2012 4:27:32am |
Salon War Room:
The biggest 2012 political red herrings
[Link: www.salon.com...]
Five stories that will receive a ton of attention in the coming year – even though they won’t amount to anything
1. The Hillary/Biden switch
2. Chris Christie, GOP running mate
3. The Donald might run as an independent!
4. The unmotivated conservative base
5. Obama’s gay marriage admission
| 229 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Jan 2, 2012 4:30:58am |
re: #227 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
She had zero reason to go out and face them too.
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Obdicut Mon, Jan 2, 2012 4:34:03am |
re: #229 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
They're Americans and she's running for president. When confronted with Joe the Plumber, Obama didn't run away, shirk, or give a pablum answer. He engaged with him substantively.
| 231 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Jan 2, 2012 4:37:25am |
re: #230 Obdicut
Joe wasn't standing outside of the President's office banging on the door and being arrested either.
It wasn't, "Mr. Obama? There's a guy out here who wants to yell and scream at you. Can you work that into your schedule?"
Apples and oranges.
| 232 |
Obdicut Mon, Jan 2, 2012 4:39:34am |
re: #231 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Joe wasn't standing outside of the President's office banging on the door and being arrested either.
It wasn't, "Mr. Obama? There's a guy out here who wants to yell and scream at you. Can you work that into your schedule?"
Sure. And I'm not saying she should have debated them. She could have just walked past them.
Maybe she's started believing all the hype about how they're all violent and stuff.
Here, here's a better comparison of people who are a thousand times braver and more fit than Bachmann for the office of the presidency:
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Sol Berdinowitz Mon, Jan 2, 2012 4:40:22am |
We also must get away from any line of thinking that posits OWS as a "left-wing" counterpoint to the TP.
There are similarities and dissimilarities, but very little in the way of "parallel structures" on opposite sides of the political spectrum.
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Obdicut Mon, Jan 2, 2012 4:41:21am |
re: #233 ralphieboy
OWS is the 'left-wing' counterpart to the GOP. Except OWS is less extreme.
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rwdflynavy Mon, Jan 2, 2012 4:46:20am |
re: #230 Obdicut
They're Americans and she's running for president. When confronted with Joe the Plumber, Obama didn't run away, shirk, or give a pablum answer. He engaged with him substantively.
Spread the wealth around isn't pablum?
//
Also, Good Morning Honcos! Happy New Year!
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Jan 2, 2012 4:46:57am |
re: #232 Obdicut
Whoa! Whoa! Whoa!
I didn't say that Bachmann was brave or fit for the office of the Presidency!
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Obdicut Mon, Jan 2, 2012 4:49:41am |
re: #236 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I'm not saying you did. I'm saying that when you said she has zero reason to go out and face them, I disagree. Well, she didn't have to go out-- she had to go in, she was coming back, but otherwise, the reason to walk past them into her own office is because it's just protesters. Zero US presidents have been assassinated by protesters, or even shot at by them. A shoe was thrown.
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Obdicut Mon, Jan 2, 2012 4:53:24am |
re: #235 rwdflynavy
If his response was 'spread the wealth around', and then smiled and walked off, you'd have a point. But it wasn't, so you don't-- I guess that's what the sarc tags were for. "spread the wealth" was the meme picked up on by the media because it was a soundbite they could trivialize.
And yes, we do have to 'spread the wealth around'. Or rather, when the wealth becomes more and more concentrated in a smaller and smaller segment of society, it is a gigantic problem for our nation. How to solve that is a highly debatable issue. That it's a problem really isn't, or, I've never seen anyone make any sort of coherent argument as to why it's not a problem.
For more of my thoughts on the subject, I point you to here:
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]
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Varek Raith Mon, Jan 2, 2012 4:53:45am |
Four Attacks in Queens With Homemade Firebombs
A wave of arson attacks spread across eastern Queens on Sunday night, and the police said the firebombings were being investigated as bias crimes — with Muslims as the targets.
No one was hurt in the four attacks, in which homemade firebombs were apparently used. In three of the four attacks, the police said, Molotov cocktails were made with Starbucks bottles.The first attack occurred just before 8 p.m. at a bodega at 179-40 Hillside Avenue.
Ten minutes later, another crude firebomb was thrown, this time at a private home at 146-62 107th Avenue, and the house caught fire.
Half an hour after that, an Islamic center at 89-89 Van Wyck Expressway was the target. The last attack occurred at a house at 88-20 170th Street, the police said.
The Islamic center, the Imam Al-Khoei Foundation, houses one of the most prominent Shiite mosques in New York. According to its Web site it offers funeral services, counseling and free SAT classes. It lists branches in several cities, including Montreal and Islamabad, Pakistan. Calls to the foundation were not returned Sunday night.
The firebomb, made with a glass Starbucks bottle, was thrown at the door of the center, possibly from a van as it drove it by, the police said. The door was blackened, but the building did not catch fire.
A similar weapon was found at the bodega, the site of the first attack, according to the police. The bomb might have been thrown from inside the store, because the counter sustained some damage, the police said.
It was the second attack, on 107th Avenue, police and fire officials said, that caused the most damage.
Shortly after 8 p.m., someone called 911, saying that a Molotov cocktail had been thrown at their home. The house caught fire, and it took more than 60 firefighters about 40 minutes to bring it under control.
In the fourth attack, two bottles were thrown at the house on 170th Street. A spokesman for the Fire Department said that the person who called 911 said they saw a vehicle drive by as the bottles were hurled toward their home. But the flames quickly fizzled.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Jan 2, 2012 4:55:44am |
re: #238 Obdicut
I see what you're saying and don't disagree. I just don't see the up-side to talking to one of these protester types. If she was outside and needed to go to her office, she certainly should have walked by them ignoring them, but I also wouldn't have a problem with her going in the back entrance.
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Obdicut Mon, Jan 2, 2012 4:56:46am |
re: #241 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Of all the things about her, this is one of the least important. But it does fit a bizarre pattern of her literally hiding.
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rwdflynavy Mon, Jan 2, 2012 4:56:58am |
re: #239 Obdicut
If his response was 'spread the wealth around', and then smiled and walked off, you'd have a point. But it wasn't, so you don't-- I guess that's what the sarc tags were for. "spread the wealth" was the meme picked up on by the media because it was a soundbite they could trivialize.
And yes, we do have to 'spread the wealth around'. Or rather, when the wealth becomes more and more concentrated in a smaller and smaller segment of society, it is a gigantic problem for our nation. How to solve that is a highly debatable issue. That it's a problem really isn't, or, I've never seen anyone make any sort of coherent argument as to why it's not a problem.
For more of my thoughts on the subject, I point you to here:
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]
Thanks for recognizing the sarc tags.
//
You make a more compelling case than Obama did.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Jan 2, 2012 4:57:23am |
OT... the Cowboys have cut my heart out again.
I may ignore the NFL next year.
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Obdicut Mon, Jan 2, 2012 4:58:13am |
re: #243 rwdflynavy
Actually, Obama put it very well, I think, for an off-the-cuff remark when he didn't have time to edit his text. Here is what he said:
"Well," said Obama, "here’s a way of thinking about it. How long have been a plumber?"
Wurzelbacher said 15 years.
Obama says, “Over the last 15 years, when you weren’t making 250, you would have been given a tax cut from me, so you’d actually have more money, which means you would have saved more, which means you would have gotten to the point where you could build your small business quicker than under the current tax code. So there are two ways of looking at it – I mean one way of looking at it is, now that you’ve become more successful through hard work – you don’t want to be taxed as much.”
“Exactly," Wurzelbacher said.
Obama continued, “But another way of looking at it is 95% of folks who are making less than 250, they may be working hard too, but they’re being taxed at a higher rate than they would be under mine. So what I’m doing is, put yourself back 10 years ago when you were only making whatever, 60 or 70. Under my tax plan you would be keeping more of your paycheck, you’d be paying lower taxes, which means you would have saved…Now look, nobody likes high taxes."
"No," said Wurzelbacher.
"Of course not," said Obama. "But what’s happened is that we end up – we’ve cut taxes a lot for folks like me who make a lot more than 250. We haven’t given a break to folks who make less, and as a consequence, the average wage and income for ordinary folks, the vast majority of Americans, has actually gone down over the last eight years. So all I want to do is – I’ve got a tax cut. The only thing that changes, is I’m gonna cut taxes a little bit more for the folks who are most in need and for the 5% of the folks who are doing very well – even though they’ve been working hard and I appreciate that – I just want to make sure they’re paying a little bit more in order to pay for those other tax cuts. Now, I respect the disagreement. I just want you to be clear – it’s not that I want to punish your success – I just want to make sure that everybody who is behind you – that they’ve got a chance at success too.”
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Decatur Deb Mon, Jan 2, 2012 4:58:31am |
re: #244 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
OT... the Cowboys have cut my heart out again.
I may ignore the NFL next year.
Occupy Rugby.
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Obdicut Mon, Jan 2, 2012 4:58:55am |
re: #244 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
The 49ers are good again, but the owners are still scuzzballs and I'm worried that they'll suddenly collapse.
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RogueOne Mon, Jan 2, 2012 5:00:55am |
Person detained in L.A. arson attacks
[Link: www.cbsnews.com...]
LOS ANGELES - Twelve more suspected arson fires broke out early Monday in the Los Angeles area, and a "person of interest" was taken into custody for questioning in connection with the dozens of suspicious car fires that have hit city since last week.
The developments came a day after police distributed DVDs featuring footage of a man between 20 and 30 years old with a receding hairline and a shoulder-length ponytail. He was seen on grainy surveillance video Saturday after emerging on foot from inside an underground parking structure on Hollywood Boulevard where a car fire was reported.
Fire department spokesman Capt. Jaime Moore said it was too soon to say whether the "person of interest" was the man seen on the video footage. "It's still too early to say whether or not this person has any direct correlation to the fires," Moore said.
No arrests had been made.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Jan 2, 2012 5:01:01am |
re: #247 Obdicut
I like watching Harbaugh coach.
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rwdflynavy Mon, Jan 2, 2012 5:01:44am |
re: #248 RogueOne
Figures. A dude with a ponytail!
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rwdflynavy Mon, Jan 2, 2012 5:02:26am |
re: #247 Obdicut
The 49ers are good again, but the owners are still scuzzballs and I'm worried that they'll suddenly collapse.
I think it is in the owner's manual. They have to be scuzzballs.
//
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RogueOne Mon, Jan 2, 2012 5:02:48am |
re: #247 Obdicut
The 49ers are good again, but the owners are still scuzzballs and I'm worried that they'll suddenly collapse.
They have a good dose of mid-western football values in Jim Harbaugh, that's all they need. With the colts sucking ass for the 1st pick this year the only team I've had to root for is the Niners.
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rwdflynavy Mon, Jan 2, 2012 5:03:11am |
re: #245 Obdicut
Actually, Obama put it very well, I think, for an off-the-cuff remark when he didn't have time to edit his text. Here is what he said:
I like your post better.
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Decatur Deb Mon, Jan 2, 2012 5:03:14am |
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Obdicut Mon, Jan 2, 2012 5:03:31am |
re: #249 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I like watching Harbaugh coach.
Seifert was so fun to watch. Montana would make an eighty-yard drive with three first downs, Rice would grab the tail end of a pass with one hand in the end zone, and Seifert would frown very slightly.
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Obdicut Mon, Jan 2, 2012 5:04:06am |
re: #253 rwdflynavy
I like your post better.
Great. I'll let Obama know to vacate the office and I'll start moving my stuff in tomorrow. I can't do it today, I've got work to do.
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RogueOne Mon, Jan 2, 2012 5:04:17am |
re: #250 rwdflynavy
Figures. A dude with a ponytail!
//
White male between 20-35, 5'8 - 6'2", receding hairline and a ponytail...that narrows it down to ~3M people in CA.
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rwdflynavy Mon, Jan 2, 2012 5:05:07am |
re: #256 Obdicut
Great. I'll let Obama know to vacate the office and I'll start moving my stuff in tomorrow. I can't do it today, I've got work to do.
Priorities Man!
//
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rwdflynavy Mon, Jan 2, 2012 5:05:36am |
re: #256 Obdicut
Great. I'll let Obama know to vacate the office and I'll start moving my stuff in tomorrow. I can't do it today, I've got work to do.
I'd like to be considered for sarcasm Czar please.
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Decatur Deb Mon, Jan 2, 2012 5:08:18am |
re: #259 rwdflynavy
I'd like to be considered for sarcasm Czar please.
You'll need a kindergarten recess appointment.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Jan 2, 2012 5:08:30am |
re: #247 Obdicut
The 49ers are good again, but the owners are still scuzzballs and I'm worried that they'll suddenly collapse.
From Jed York's Wiki
On October 11, 2010, with the 49ers off to a disappointing 0-5 start, Jed York wrote to ESPN's Adam Schefter that the 49ers would win their division and make the playoffs. This proclamation led ESPN Columnist David Fleming to refer to York as "kooky" and "goofy" and to note that York "backs up such bold declarations with a long list of qualifications starting with (1) his lifelong love of the 49ers, (2) his prestigious high school baseball career and (3) the fact that his godfather is Eddie DeBartolo."
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rwdflynavy Mon, Jan 2, 2012 5:08:52am |
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Varek Raith Mon, Jan 2, 2012 5:09:33am |
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Obdicut Mon, Jan 2, 2012 5:10:07am |
re: #259 rwdflynavy
I'd like to be considered for sarcasm Czar please.
sure.
Did you know the President can decorate the White House with anything he wants from the National museums? Including the Smithsonian.
Why hasn't any president really taken advantage of this? You could have the Apollo 11 module in the Oval Office. You could sit on it like a techno-throne.
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rwdflynavy Mon, Jan 2, 2012 5:10:13am |
re: #264 Varek Raith
Undead serious.
Speaking of...I am taking a break from the timesink that is Skyrim. Pure awesomeness!!
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Decatur Deb Mon, Jan 2, 2012 5:10:18am |
re: #263 rwdflynavy
Wait...are you being sarcastic?
Don't worry, I'm shooting for the Boob Pun Oversight Committee.
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Varek Raith Mon, Jan 2, 2012 5:11:19am |
re: #267 Decatur Deb
Don't worry, I'm shooting for the Boob Pun Oversight Committee.
Press Secretary?
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Decatur Deb Mon, Jan 2, 2012 5:13:07am |
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Obdicut Mon, Jan 2, 2012 5:13:29am |
The National Zoo is available to the President, too. I think Obama would be doing better with the public if at every appearance he had Red Pandas hanging off his podium.
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kirkspencer Mon, Jan 2, 2012 5:13:42am |
re: #239 Obdicut
If his response was 'spread the wealth around', and then smiled and walked off, you'd have a point. But it wasn't, so you don't-- I guess that's what the sarc tags were for. "spread the wealth" was the meme picked up on by the media because it was a soundbite they could trivialize.
And yes, we do have to 'spread the wealth around'. Or rather, when the wealth becomes more and more concentrated in a smaller and smaller segment of society, it is a gigantic problem for our nation. How to solve that is a highly debatable issue. That it's a problem really isn't, or, I've never seen anyone make any sort of coherent argument as to why it's not a problem.
For more of my thoughts on the subject, I point you to here:
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]
I know it was last thread, but a two cent addition to your excellent remark.
In simple, increasing income/wealth disparity shrinks the money supply and thus feeds Keynes' paradox of thrift.
The wealthier you are, the more of your income gets put into "savings": property, capital investments, money accounts, etc. Give a thousand dollars to someone at the poverty level and it's all going to get spent within a couple of weeks. Give a thousand dollars to a millionaire and they're probably not going to purchase an extra thousand dollars of goods and services.
A secondary event is that the economic pool separates as income and wealth separate. That is instead of being one national economy with one gdp it becomes two such. More and more of the money that remains moving stays within two separate 'pools'. An indicator that is beginning to show up is when one segment (differentiated by wealth) has a strong and growing economy while the other segment suffers a recession or even a depression. A later indicator will be a dichotomous inflation. Goods that are peculiar to one class or the other inflate at rates relative to the conditions of that class. Goods that are mutually desirable tend to be influenced more by the wealthy's economic conditions.
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rwdflynavy Mon, Jan 2, 2012 5:14:31am |
re: #270 Obdicut
The National Zoo is available to the President, too. I think Obama would be doing better with the public if at every appearance he had Red Pandas hanging off his podium.
If he showed up riding a tiger liger at press conferences...well, that would be bad ass!!!
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Jan 2, 2012 5:14:45am |
re: #265 Obdicut
sure.
Did you know the President can decorate the White House with anything he wants from the National museums? Including the Smithsonian
The restrooms are down on the right... pass the wooly mammoth; the Men's Room door is a hatch from the Arizona and is under the left wing of the Spirit of St. Louis.
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Decatur Deb Mon, Jan 2, 2012 5:16:22am |
re: #270 Obdicut
The National Zoo is available to the President, too. I think Obama would be doing better with the public if at every appearance he had Red Pandas hanging off his podium.
Like to see his procession into the State of the Union by National Park Service Interns with honey badgers on chains.
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Varek Raith Mon, Jan 2, 2012 5:16:33am |
re: #265 Obdicut
sure.
Did you know the President can decorate the White House with anything he wants from the National museums? Including the Smithsonian.
Why hasn't any president really taken advantage of this? You could have the Apollo 11 module in the Oval Office. You could sit on it like a techno-throne.
I'm so putting Trex in the main lobby.
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rwdflynavy Mon, Jan 2, 2012 5:17:14am |
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Jan 2, 2012 5:17:26am |
re: #271 kirkspencer
Give a thousand dollars to someone at the poverty level and it's all going to get spent within a couple of weeks.
Who ends up with the thousand dollars?
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Obdicut Mon, Jan 2, 2012 5:18:12am |
re: #271 kirkspencer
Goods that are peculiar to one class or the other inflate at rates relative to the conditions of that class. Goods that are mutually desirable tend to be influenced more by the wealthy's economic conditions.
Excellently put. That's exactly what I was trying to get at with Japan and available land.
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Varek Raith Mon, Jan 2, 2012 5:19:49am |
re: #276 rwdflynavy
No room, I just dropped an SR-71 there.
Well, I'm sure we'll find a place for it.
And the ME-262.
And the Enterprise.
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Decatur Deb Mon, Jan 2, 2012 5:20:26am |
re: #279 Varek Raith
Well, I'm sure we'll find a place for it.
And the ME-262.
And the Enterprise.
Shuttle or CVN?
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rwdflynavy Mon, Jan 2, 2012 5:20:35am |
re: #279 Varek Raith
Well, I'm sure we'll find a place for it.
And the ME-262.
And the Enterprise.
Which one? Starship, spaceshuttle CVN or sailing ship?
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Varek Raith Mon, Jan 2, 2012 5:20:46am |
Does the Intrepid itself count as a museum object?
I'd like that airlifted to the Mall.
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Varek Raith Mon, Jan 2, 2012 5:20:56am |
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Decatur Deb Mon, Jan 2, 2012 5:23:59am |
Pres Ron Paul's yacht, the Free Enterprise.
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Varek Raith Mon, Jan 2, 2012 5:24:05am |
Official: 4 Ohio fluid-injection wells cannot open in wake of quake
(CNN) -- State leaders have ordered that four fluid-injection wells in eastern Ohio will be "indefinitely" prohibited from opening in the aftermath of heightened seismic activity in the area, an official said.
Ohio Department of Natural Resources Director James Zehringer had announced on Friday that one such well -- which injects "fluid deep underground into porous rock formations, such as sandstone or limestone, or into or below the shallow soil layer," the U.S. Environmental Protection Agency explains -- was closed after a series of small earthquakes in and around Youngstown.
Then on Saturday, a magnitude 4.0 earthquake struck that released at least 40 times more energy than any of the previous 10 or more tremors that had rattled the region in 2011.
Andy Ware, deputy director of Ohio's natural resources department, told CNN on Sunday that Zehringer and Gov. John Kasich subsequently ordered that four nearby injection well projects will not open in the coming weeks, as had previously been planned. They 'll be inoperational until a determination is made in an investigation of a possible link between the earthquakes and the fluid-injection wells, he added.
"They will (not open) until we are satisfied that the process can be safely resumed," said Ware.
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rwdflynavy Mon, Jan 2, 2012 5:25:21am |
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Obdicut Mon, Jan 2, 2012 5:25:40am |
re: #277 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Who ends up with the thousand dollars?
Lots of other people who are likely to spend it quickly. Waitresses and pawn shop guys and taxi cab drivers, who likewise spend it quickly.
Money is not money if it's static. A hundred bucks sitting on a shelf does no good. Money is only money if it has velocity, if it's being spent and respent.
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Decatur Deb Mon, Jan 2, 2012 5:26:24am |
re: #288 Obdicut
Lots of other people who are likely to spend it quickly. Waitresses and pawn shop guys and taxi cab drivers, who likewise spend it quickly.
Money is not money if it's static. A hundred bucks sitting on a shelf does no good. Money is only money if it has velocity, if it's being spent and respent.
Then my wife is the National Savior.
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Sol Berdinowitz Mon, Jan 2, 2012 5:31:05am |
which is one reason we are seeing record profits and record unemployment.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Jan 2, 2012 5:32:00am |
re: #288 Obdicut
But where does the money end up? We all know it's gonna stop somewhere.
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Achilles Tang Mon, Jan 2, 2012 5:33:02am |
re: #288 Obdicut
Money is not money if it's static. A hundred bucks sitting on a shelf does no good. Money is only money if it has velocity, if it's being spent and respent.
Yes, according to basic economic models, but money on the shelf, or in the bank, or under the bed does have a significant effect on people's behavior when it is called savings, and I think there is a spot for it in the models too.
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Decatur Deb Mon, Jan 2, 2012 5:33:08am |
re: #291 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
But where does the money end up? We all know it's gonna stop somewhere.
Swimming pools full of gold coins.
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Achilles Tang Mon, Jan 2, 2012 5:33:32am |
re: #291 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
But where does the money end up? We all know it's gonna stop somewhere.
With the president?
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kirkspencer Mon, Jan 2, 2012 5:33:48am |
re: #277 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Who ends up with the thousand dollars?
Generally it tends to recirculate. There are several economic models for that. Plus there are some studies that try to track it (using sampled processes).
Here's a simplistic comparison. Assume two classes, P(oor) and R(ich). Assume P saves zero, and when he spends 100% goes to R. Assume R saves (S) 50%, 25% goes to P, 25% goes to R. We're giving $1,000 (available, we'll call this A) and what we want to measure is total money movement (M).
First version, R gets 1000. A becomes 500, 250 to R, 250 to P. M is 500.
Second iteration, A becomes 375. R sends 125 to S, 62.5 to R, 62.5 to P. P sends 250 to R. 375 is added to M which is now 875. Two iterations is enough.
Second version, P gets 1000. A remains 1000, and 1000 goes to R. M is now 1000.
Second iteration looks like the first iteration of the first version leaving us with an M of 1500.
Reality vs the model includes the facts that there are more than two groups, and that a portion of P's expenditures would go back to the P. These complexities do not change what the model demonstrates: give it to the poor and more money moves through the system over any given time segment.
The model incidentally shows that a mechanism to strip money from S and send it back to P increases money circulation.
Money in savings stagnates. It must move to generate a healthy economy. (balance point: too much movement is bad in its own way. However it's a far less common problem)
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Obdicut Mon, Jan 2, 2012 5:34:15am |
re: #291 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
But where does the money end up? We all know it's gonna stop somewhere.
No, it doesn't. There are large permanent structures that some of it will wind up in-- say, a house-- but other than that, a cheese sandwich can become a tennis lesson can become a toy for your kids can become a guy doing some brushwork. It never has to stop.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Jan 2, 2012 5:42:57am |
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Jan 2, 2012 5:44:30am |
re: #296 Obdicut
So, if there's not a guy at the top getting all the money and hoarding it? What is the problem?
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Obdicut Mon, Jan 2, 2012 5:44:57am |
re: #299 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
So, if there's not a guy at the top getting all the money and hoarding it? What is the problem?
I'm sorry, I don't really understand your question. There are guys who are hoarding it. That's the problem.
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Flounder Mon, Jan 2, 2012 5:55:00am |
We should take Russell Brand's money, he sure as hell doesn't deserve it:
[Link: www.dailymail.co.uk...]
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Obdicut Mon, Jan 2, 2012 5:58:38am |
re: #301 Shropshire_Slasher
He's pretty damn funny. He seems uncomfortable in his own skin, though.
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darthstar Mon, Jan 2, 2012 5:59:53am |
re: #301 Shropshire_Slasher
We should take Russell Brand's money, he sure as hell doesn't deserve it:
[Link: www.dailymail.co.uk...]
They've only been married a year. They could split whatever they both earned in the last 14 months, but he's not entitled to half of her net worth if he didn't help her acquire it.
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Achilles Tang Mon, Jan 2, 2012 6:02:52am |
re: #295 kirkspencer
Money in savings stagnates. It must move to generate a healthy economy. (balance point: too much movement is bad in its own way. However it's a far less common problem)
I'm no economist, but I'm sure a certain level of savings is very important, otherwise one is living day to day, so to speak, and that is very unstable.
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Obdicut Mon, Jan 2, 2012 6:05:35am |
re: #304 Naso Tang
I'm no economist, but I'm sure a certain level of savings is very important, otherwise one is living day to day, so to speak, and that is very unstable.
Sure. Though the level you need is greatly lowered when you have things like universal health insurance to take away the terror of unexpected economic disasters.
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Obdicut Mon, Jan 2, 2012 6:20:35am |
My wife just sent me this.
[Link: well.blogs.nytimes.com...]
I make her coffee every morning.
I think I'm doing okay.
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Varek Raith Mon, Jan 2, 2012 6:32:15am |
re: #306 Obdicut
My wife just sent me this.
[Link: well.blogs.nytimes.com...]
I make her coffee every morning.
I think I'm doing okay.
DIVE! DIVE! DIVE!
/
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Jan 2, 2012 6:50:46am |
re: #306 Obdicut
I've learned that short of abuse and neglect? Folks make their own happiness; they decide whether to be content with their mate or not.
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Killgore Trout Mon, Jan 2, 2012 6:54:18am |
Massive manhunt after ranger slain at Rainier
Is that a shotgun with a huge banana clip?
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Obdicut Mon, Jan 2, 2012 6:57:26am |
re: #309 Killgore Trout
What a fucking punk. Goddamn. I love Rainier, and a ranger there once helped me walk two miles after I twisted my ankle.
I hope the psycho little asshole doesn't get a chance to shoot anyone else before they get him.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Jan 2, 2012 6:58:20am |
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NJDhockeyfan Mon, Jan 2, 2012 7:04:55am |
Good morning lizards! I hope everyone had a great safe New Years celebration.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Jan 2, 2012 7:05:05am |
re: #311 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
There's no way to just arrest a motherfucker who poses like that?
//
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NJDhockeyfan Mon, Jan 2, 2012 7:08:54am |
re: #313 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I just got some news from my slow high speed internet company IBEC BPL...they are shutting down this month. Looks like I'm going back to dial up.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Jan 2, 2012 7:11:39am |
re: #315 NJDhockeyfan
G...o...o...d... M...o...r...n...i...n...g... F...o...l...k...s...!... H...o...w...'...s... e...v...e...r...y...o...n...e... d...o...i...n...g... t...h...i...s... m...o...r...n...i...n....g....?...
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Jan 2, 2012 7:12:13am |
re: #315 NJDhockeyfan
On the bright side? They let you know.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Mon, Jan 2, 2012 7:15:22am |
re: #316 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
G...o...o...d... M...o...r...n...i...n...g... F...o...l...k...s...!... H...o...w...'...s... e...v...e...r...y...o...n...e... d...o...i...n...g... t...h...i...s... m...o...r...n...i...n...g...?...
already better thank you
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sattv4u2 Mon, Jan 2, 2012 7:16:08am |
re: #316 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
G...o...o...d... M...o...r...n...i...n...g... F...o...l...k...s...!... H...o...w...'...s... e...v...e...r...y...o...n...e... d...o...i...n...g... t...h...i...s... m...o...r...n...i...n...g...?...
Whats with thew faux Morse code??
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NJDhockeyfan Mon, Jan 2, 2012 7:16:36am |
re: #317 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
On the bright side? They let you know.
True. We have fiber optic cables being buried around the county and supposedly have high speed internet available by March or April. I'll believe it when I see it.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Mon, Jan 2, 2012 7:16:47am |
re: #319 sattv4u2
Whats with thew faux Morse code??
if u read between the lines it spells 'hangover'
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Varek Raith Mon, Jan 2, 2012 7:18:51am |
re: #321 Sergey Romanov
if u read between the lines it spells 'hangover'
WHAT?
I CAN'T HEAR YOU!
SPEAK UP!!!!
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Mon, Jan 2, 2012 7:19:26am |
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Jan 2, 2012 7:19:33am |
re: #320 NJDhockeyfan
Ike Godsey probably knows of a local provider.
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NJDhockeyfan Mon, Jan 2, 2012 7:22:31am |
re: #324 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Ike Godsey's store probably know's of a local provider.
Since my house is in a dead zone, wireless internet service is out of the question for me. My only other choices are satellite internet or dial up. I'll stick with dial up until the fiber optic internet arrives.
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Varek Raith Mon, Jan 2, 2012 7:23:21am |
re: #325 NJDhockeyfan
Since my house is in a dead zone, wireless internet service is out of the question for me. My only other choices are satellite internet or dial up. I'll stick with dial up until the fiber optic internet arrives.
Say hi to Bear Grylls when you see him!
/
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NJDhockeyfan Mon, Jan 2, 2012 7:23:29am |
Ike Godsey does have two cups and a string though. I might stop by on my way home.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Jan 2, 2012 7:23:42am |
re: #325 NJDhockeyfan
Since my house is in a dead zone, wireless internet service is out of the question for me. My only other choices are satellite internet or dial up. I'll stick with dial up until the fiber optic internet arrives.
Every time I fix a grammatical fuck-up on a post, someone goes and quotes it. Dammit.
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sattv4u2 Mon, Jan 2, 2012 7:24:46am |
re: #328 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Every time I fix a grammatical fuck-up on a post, someone goes and quotes it. Dammit.
And we haven't even gotten to the math portion of the studies yet!!
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Jan 2, 2012 7:25:49am |
re: #329 sattv4u2
I was told there would be no math.
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NJDhockeyfan Mon, Jan 2, 2012 7:26:32am |
I went to IBEC's website and here's what's left of it.
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Kronocide Mon, Jan 2, 2012 7:42:46am |
re: #311 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
There's no way to just arrest a motherfucker who poses like that?
//
That sad fact is some miscreants will think he's a hero and make a poster of that. Sick sick sick.
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sattv4u2 Mon, Jan 2, 2012 7:43:55am |
re: #332 BigPapa
That sad fact is some miscreants will think he's a hero and make a poster of that. Sick sick sick.
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NJDhockeyfan Mon, Jan 2, 2012 7:45:55am |
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NJDhockeyfan Mon, Jan 2, 2012 7:49:01am |
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Jan 2, 2012 7:49:48am |
Watching the opening to "Goldeneye" on On Demand... my favorite "Bond Movie" stunt of all. Bond (Brosnan) jumps off a cliff on a motorcycle and skydives to catch up to a plunging plane which he pulls out of a dive and flies away with the exploding mountain behind him as a backdrop.
It could happen!
/
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sattv4u2 Mon, Jan 2, 2012 7:49:51am |
re: #336 NJDhockeyfan
The requested content cannot be loaded.
Please try again later.
Maybe you're internet provider has already shut you down !!!
//
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NJDhockeyfan Mon, Jan 2, 2012 7:50:47am |
re: #338 sattv4u2
The requested content cannot be loaded.
Please try again later.Maybe you're internet provider has already shut you down !!!
//
LOL.. Second attempt.
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sattv4u2 Mon, Jan 2, 2012 7:51:10am |
re: #337 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Watching the opening to "Goldeneye" on On Demand... my favorite "Bond Movie" stunt of all. Bond (Brosnan) jumps off a cliff on a motorcycle and skydives to catch up to a plunging plane which he pulls out of a dive and flies away with the exploding mountain behind him as a backdrop.
It could happen!
/
heh ,, must be "Bond Day"
Never Say Never is on EPIX 1 right now
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Jan 2, 2012 7:52:11am |
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Kronocide Mon, Jan 2, 2012 7:52:12am |
Murderous gunman on the loose = Che = Occupy Wall Street.
Got it.
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sattv4u2 Mon, Jan 2, 2012 7:52:32am |
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sattv4u2 Mon, Jan 2, 2012 7:53:40am |
re: #343 BigPapa
Murderous gunman on the loose = Che = Occupy Wall Street.
Got it.
Obviously, you didn't!
YOUR comment about some miscreants will think he's a hero and make a poster of that. = Che
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Jan 2, 2012 7:53:50am |
re: #343 BigPapa
In Che's defense. He does look pretty cool on a t-shirt.
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Kronocide Mon, Jan 2, 2012 7:54:23am |
re: #342 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I think he's comparing misguided hero worship.
Probably. But it's a pretty sloppy comparison likely driven by other intents.
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sattv4u2 Mon, Jan 2, 2012 7:55:04am |
re: #339 BigPapa
You just compared that guy to Che?
Yeah ,, I shouldn't have done that
Che executed MANY more people!
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Decatur Deb Mon, Jan 2, 2012 7:55:22am |
re: #335 NJDhockeyfan
Not here. Maybe Alabama where they are located.
They're citing last Spring's tornado damage. We're clear and 46f here w/12 mph winds. Just put the skin on my hoop 'greenhouse' against tonight's 25f.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Jan 2, 2012 7:55:33am |
re: #347 BigPapa
Probably. But it's a pretty sloppy comparison likely driven by other intents.
Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.
No reason to get your outrage in an outrage.
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Obdicut Mon, Jan 2, 2012 7:55:34am |
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sattv4u2 Mon, Jan 2, 2012 7:55:56am |
re: #347 BigPapa
Probably. But it's a pretty sloppy comparison likely driven by other intents.
wrong
BBZZZZT
But Johnny, we do have some nice parting gifts ,, a home version of the game!!
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Mon, Jan 2, 2012 7:56:29am |
re: #347 BigPapa
Probably. But it's a pretty sloppy comparison likely driven by other intents.
Well, yeah. I mean, I could also point out Reagan tees in rw crowds.
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Obdicut Mon, Jan 2, 2012 7:56:40am |
We also have Andrew Jackson's face on our money, and he was a genocidal fuckhead.
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Killgore Trout Mon, Jan 2, 2012 7:56:51am |
re: #346 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
In Che's defense. He does look pretty cool on a t-shirt.
This would be better....
Image: che-soldiers.jpg
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Jan 2, 2012 7:57:33am |
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sattv4u2 Mon, Jan 2, 2012 7:58:07am |
re: #355 Killgore Trout
This would be better...
Image: che-soldiers.jpg
The guy on the far right ,,, gun aimed at the lifeless body,,,
"flinch, Beeyotch!"
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Kronocide Mon, Jan 2, 2012 7:58:19am |
re: #345 sattv4u2
Obviously, you didn't!
YOUR comment about some miscreants will think he's a hero and make a poster of that. = Che
I got it. I said something about 'miscreants/hero/poster' and you instantly go Che. And then it goes to OWS within a few seconds.
No really, I understand.
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NJDhockeyfan Mon, Jan 2, 2012 7:58:26am |
re: #348 sattv4u2
Yeah ,, I shouldn't have done that
Che executed MANY more people!
He was just a freedom fighter, man!
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Gus Mon, Jan 2, 2012 7:58:32am |
Never cease to take the opportunity to read something into something that really isn't there.
//
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Gus Mon, Jan 2, 2012 7:59:49am |
re: #356 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Che-panzee?
Oh I see. Making fun out of pansies are we? Homophobe!
//
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sattv4u2 Mon, Jan 2, 2012 8:00:07am |
re: #360 Gus 802
Never cease to take the opportunity to read something into something that really isn't there.
//
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NJDhockeyfan Mon, Jan 2, 2012 8:00:12am |
Che in a tent.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Mon, Jan 2, 2012 8:00:19am |
Che wasn't a freedom fighter. Mujahedeen were the freedom fighters. Contras were the freedom fighters (esp. against those pesky nuns).
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Gus Mon, Jan 2, 2012 8:00:48am |
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NJDhockeyfan Mon, Jan 2, 2012 8:01:26am |
re: #364 Sergey Romanov
Che wasn't a freedom fighter. Mujahedeen were the freedom fighters. Contras were the freedom fighters (esp. against those pesky nuns).
Here they are invading Normandy.
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Kronocide Mon, Jan 2, 2012 8:01:27am |
re: #350 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar.
No reason to get your outrage in an outrage.
No really, I'm not outraged. Disappointed maybe, but not outraged.
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sattv4u2 Mon, Jan 2, 2012 8:02:07am |
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jaunte Mon, Jan 2, 2012 8:02:48am |
re: #354 Obdicut
We also have Andrew Jackson's face on our money, and he was a genocidal fuckhead.
Also t-shirted:
[Link: www.zazzle.com...]
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Obdicut Mon, Jan 2, 2012 8:03:05am |
re: #364 Sergey Romanov
Reagan said the guys who became the Taliban were like our founding fathers. I think he may have been slightly inaccurate in that assessment.
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NJDhockeyfan Mon, Jan 2, 2012 8:05:20am |
re: #365 Gus 802
Che-in-the-Box?
Where can I find one of those?
On your grocery store's breakfast isle!
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Gus Mon, Jan 2, 2012 8:06:05am |
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Mon, Jan 2, 2012 8:06:07am |
That Iran-Contra affair? Heroic, I say.
Sell arms to Islamists? Check.
Dabble in drug trafficking? Check.
Use money to support Latin American Einsatzgruppen? Check.
Wear Reagan's face proudly, supporters. True hero, unlike that Che.
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NJDhockeyfan Mon, Jan 2, 2012 8:10:16am |
re: #379 Gus 802
Cheese!
Che Cake!
Image: 26865_354471214063_576054063_3755714_4545972_n-gallery.jpg
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BishopX Mon, Jan 2, 2012 8:10:45am |
re: #383 Gus 802
Knock it off you guys before a take a Hatchet to ya!
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Gus Mon, Jan 2, 2012 8:11:30am |
re: #385 BishopX
Knock it off you guys before a take a Hatchet to ya!
The puns will continue until morale improves!
//
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Mon, Jan 2, 2012 8:13:18am |
[Link: www.scrabblefinder.com...]
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Mon, Jan 2, 2012 8:14:27am |
even better
[Link: www.morewords.com...]
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sattv4u2 Mon, Jan 2, 2012 8:14:48am |
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Mon, Jan 2, 2012 8:15:22am |
re: #393 sattv4u2
at least i win the internets
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sattv4u2 Mon, Jan 2, 2012 8:17:02am |
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NJDhockeyfan Mon, Jan 2, 2012 8:21:28am |
Occupy Rose Parade Leader has Checkered Past
The Tournament of Roses Parade expects an addition this year, Occupy Rose Parade. The parade is a New Year's day tradition in Pasadena, California, starting in 1890. Every year, millions of people tune in to watch the parade, and hundreds of thousands flock to see the spectacle in person. According to the LA Times, security will be "beefed up" to accommodate the group, which promises not to disrupt the traditional parade.
The Occupy Rose Parade will have a post-parade float, which consists of "a giant octopus to represent Wall Street's stranglehold on the economy and the political system," according to organizer Peter Thottam, along with protesters carrying signs. A website dedicated to the event suggests messages for signs, as well as information about the "phases" of the protest.
40-year-old Thottam, a California attorney, is no stranger to activism or the law. A known 9/11 Truther, Thottam has also had bad luck in the investment business, as his family claims that he "burned through" $800,000 from their trust, according to the Pasadena Star News. He was arrested for shoplifting on at least three occasions and convicted in 2004. In a story called, "When Cops are Thugs," the Village Voice describes Thottam's arrest for shoplifting in 2003 in Mexico and placed in a prison cell with 13 others until a friend could bail him out. The 2004 conviction resulted in a temporary suspension of his California license. He has also been fired from at least two positions, according to the Daily Kos.
Thottam does not necessarily represent Occupy's 99%, as he has clearly benefited from his education and additionally, has a substantial amount of money to burn.
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sattv4u2 Mon, Jan 2, 2012 8:25:22am |
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Kronocide Mon, Jan 2, 2012 8:28:26am |
re: #406 sattv4u2
Or as it's called in the Ozarks ,,, LUNCH!
Or as it's called on LGF, OUTRAGE WANTING SYNDROME!
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Killgore Trout Mon, Jan 2, 2012 8:29:22am |
re: #401 NJDhockeyfan
his family claims that he "burned through" $800,000 from their trust
He sounds like the kind of guy who has answers to our economic troubles.
/
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sattv4u2 Mon, Jan 2, 2012 8:30:33am |
re: #412 Killgore Trout
He sounds like the kind of guy who has answers to our economic troubles.
/
A known 9/11 Truther
Maybe he can be Luap Nors right hand man!!
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jaunte Mon, Jan 2, 2012 8:31:26am |
his family claims that he "burned through" $800,000 from their trust
Cashflows
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Gus Mon, Jan 2, 2012 8:32:44am |
re: #412 Killgore Trout
He sounds like the kind of guy who has answers to our economic troubles.
/
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Gus Mon, Jan 2, 2012 8:33:19am |
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Mon, Jan 2, 2012 8:33:21am |
re: #415 Gus 802
sheeple!//
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Gus Mon, Jan 2, 2012 8:33:54am |
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Mon, Jan 2, 2012 8:35:20am |
re: #416 Gus 802
Do make note of the "Masonic Moon - By The Elders Of Zion" video he has there.
oh
my
that's a little masterpiece
surely a parody?
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Gus Mon, Jan 2, 2012 8:35:23am |
Holy smokes that was easy. Here's another thing (amongst many) at this guys NWO page:
Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion
- World Conquest Through World Zionist (Read Zionist) Government. The Zionist's attempt to blame the New World Order on the Jews -
- Biblebelievers.org -
(From: February 9, 2005)
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Gus Mon, Jan 2, 2012 8:36:14am |
re: #420 Sergey Romanov
oh
mythat's a litle masterpiece
surely a parody?
Nope. It's real. That's his website.
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Gus Mon, Jan 2, 2012 8:36:38am |
re: #420 Sergey Romanov
oh
mythat's a litle masterpiece
surely a parody?
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Mon, Jan 2, 2012 8:37:26am |
re: #422 Gus 802
i was writing about the clip.
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NJDhockeyfan Mon, Jan 2, 2012 8:37:33am |
re: #418 Gus 802
Occupy Rose Parade fail! Check out his NWO link.
One of his links:
Congressman Ron Paul on Guns, Money, and the New World Order
- by Erik Fortman -
(From: February 29, 2004)
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Gus Mon, Jan 2, 2012 8:37:35am |
re: #423 Gus 802
More here:
California Bar Journal Discipline Summaries
Summaries from the California Bar Journal are based on discipline orders but are not the official records. Not all discipline actions have associated CBJ summaries. Copies of official attorney discipline records are available upon request.
October 31, 2008
PETER L. THOTTAM [#206882], 37, of Los Angeles Thottam was convicted in 2004 of petty theft, a misdemeanor involving moral turpitude.
After practicing law for several years, Thottam enrolled in an MBA program at UC Irvine. He decided to transfer after a year and tried to return his textbooks, worth hundreds of dollars, to the Irvine bookstore for full price. When the bookstore refused, Thottam became upset and took two other books, worth $71 from the store.
At the time, he was under a great deal of stress because his mother had had one leg amputated for gangrene but refused to allow doctors to remove the other diseased leg. She died a few weeks later of septicemia, gangrene of the lower extremities. Thottam admitted taking the books and told police about the stress he was under.
He failed to appear in court for the criminal matter and a bench warrant was issued. He ultimately pleaded guilty to misdemeanor petty theft but did not report the conviction to the State Bar.
In mitigation, he cooperated with the bar’s investigation and was under extreme stress. He received some mitigation for doing thousands of hours of volunteer work in support of various community and public policy causes.
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Gus Mon, Jan 2, 2012 8:38:05am |
re: #424 Sergey Romanov
i was writing about the clip.
Ah. Well that's "for real" as well.
Crazies. This guy is a whack job.
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sattv4u2 Mon, Jan 2, 2012 8:38:42am |
re: #427 Gus 802
Ah. Well that's "for real" as well.
Crazies. This guy is a whack job.
AND ,, someones lawyer!!!
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Jan 2, 2012 8:39:09am |
re: #374 Obdicut
Reagan said the guys who became the Taliban were like our founding fathers. I think he may have been slightly inaccurate in that assessment.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Mon, Jan 2, 2012 8:39:36am |
seems i was right - seems like a tongue in cheek band.
[Link: www.soundclick.com...]
(obviously, our guy peter takes it seriously)
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NJDhockeyfan Mon, Jan 2, 2012 8:42:03am |
Oh my...
The zIONIST Declaration of War on Nazi Germany
The Economic Boycott of 1933- "Thus, if truth be told, it was the worldwide Zionist leadership - not the Third Reich - that effectively fired the first shot in the Second World War. Prominent New York attorney Samuel Untermyer (above right) was one of the leading agitators in the war against Germany, describing the Zionist campaign as nothing less than a "holy war." -
- The Barnes Review, Jan/Feb 2001 pp. 41-45 -
(From: Saturday, December 29, 2007)
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Gus Mon, Jan 2, 2012 8:42:15am |
re: #431 jaunte
He's almost up there with Timecube guy.
Sure is some weird chit. I wonder if 10 years from now he'll try and disassociate himself from that garbage sort of like Ron Paul and his newsletters.
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sattv4u2 Mon, Jan 2, 2012 8:42:58am |
Pretty good College Football lineup today
The Rose and Fiesta Bowls in particular should be fun to watch
| 435 |
jaunte Mon, Jan 2, 2012 8:43:09am |
re: #433 Gus 802
So far his career trajectory doesn't look very promising.
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sattv4u2 Mon, Jan 2, 2012 8:43:59am |
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Gus Mon, Jan 2, 2012 8:44:25am |
re: #435 jaunte
So far his career trajectory doesn't look very promising.
Official page:
Occupy The Rose Parade!
Submitted by OLA Web Team on Mon, 12/26/2011 - 6:02pm
Description:
Dear Occupy Supporter:
In accordance with their long history of allowing protest, Rose Parade and Pasadena officials have authorized the Occupy the Rose Parade movement to march at the end of the parade, after all the floats have passed and the phalanx of police cars moves through, but while the crowd is still in place. The tea party won't be on hand and Occupy activists said this was a disappointment. Organizer Pete Thottam said "We consider them our brothers and sisters in arms in our fight to take back control of our country. Occupy activists are training at least 40 volunteers, outfitted in brightly colored vests, to talk to marchers and urge them to remain calm."
Continues.
More here: "pete thottam" site:occupylosangeles.org
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Mon, Jan 2, 2012 8:45:58am |
re: #438 Gus 802
does nobody google these days?
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Jan 2, 2012 8:46:06am |
re: #438 Gus 802
On second thought, let's not go to the parade. 'Tis a silly place.
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sattv4u2 Mon, Jan 2, 2012 8:46:39am |
re: #438 Gus 802
Rose Parade and Pasadena officials have authorized the Occupy the Rose Parade movement to march at the end of the parade, after all the floats have passed and the phalanx of police cars moves through so we can step in all the horseshit
I love a parade!!
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jaunte Mon, Jan 2, 2012 8:46:47am |
re: #438 Gus 802
Sounds like each marcher might have their own chaperone.
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Gus Mon, Jan 2, 2012 8:46:58am |
re: #440 Sergey Romanov
does nobody google these days?
Apparently not. Otherwise this might be tacit approval? In the vein of "yeah we don't agree with him on everything but he's got a right...like it's COOL man.!
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Mon, Jan 2, 2012 8:47:55am |
re: #444 Gus 802
Apparently not. Otherwise this might be tacit approval? In the vein of "yeah we don't agree with him on everything but he's got a right...like it's COOL man.!
oh and btw, the octopus idea was funky from the start. now it clicks.
| 446 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Jan 2, 2012 8:48:28am |
re: #444 Gus 802
Gus? I was MIA for a few days. Has your OWS position changed?
This isn't the type of stuff I would have seen from you a few weeks ago.
| 447 |
jaunte Mon, Jan 2, 2012 8:48:50am |
Hackers plan space satellites to combat censorship
Computer hackers plan to take the internet beyond the reach of censors by putting their own communication satellites into orbit.
The scheme was outlined at the Chaos Communication Congress in Berlin.
The project's organisers said the Hackerspace Global Grid will also involve developing a grid of ground stations to track and communicate with the satellites.
Longer term they hope to help put an amateur astronaut on the moon.
Hackers still seeking volunteers to run the finance committee.
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Gus Mon, Jan 2, 2012 8:50:03am |
re: #446 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Gus? I was MIA for a few days. Has your OWS position changed?
This isn't the type of stuff I would have seen from you a few weeks ago.
Yes. And I hope this provides a hint as to why. These idiots at Occupy LA with Pete Thottam. Finkelstein at Occupy Boston. Too much to list here.
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NJDhockeyfan Mon, Jan 2, 2012 8:51:12am |
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Gus Mon, Jan 2, 2012 8:51:48am |
re: #447 jaunte
Hackers plan space satellites to combat censorship
Hackers still seeking volunteers to run the finance committee.
I'm sure it wouldn't take more than 1 hour to find a lot of crazy shit with these guys either. Sounds like a prime example of one satellite to shoot down.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Jan 2, 2012 8:51:59am |
re: #448 Gus 802
I've moved so many of my positions over the past couple of years I can't count them.
It ain't flip-flopping if we're evolving.
| 452 |
sattv4u2 Mon, Jan 2, 2012 8:53:17am |
re: #451 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I've moved so many of my positions over the past couple of years I can't count them.
It ain't flip-flopping if we're evolving.
These are yours, I assume!
| 453 |
Gus Mon, Jan 2, 2012 8:54:56am |
Can trains be hacked? - Die Technik der ...
pastebin.com...
Dec 26, 2011 – [Link: events.ccc.de......]
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sattv4u2 Mon, Jan 2, 2012 8:55:36am |
re: #453 Gus 802
Can trains be hacked? - Die Technik der ...
pastebin.com...
Dec 26, 2011 – [Link: events.ccc.de...]
burp
Server not found
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Mon, Jan 2, 2012 8:55:39am |
the only thanks to pete-t: those elders of zion are a hoot :)
they've distilled decades of conspirology into their texts.
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sattv4u2 Mon, Jan 2, 2012 8:56:29am |
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Gus Mon, Jan 2, 2012 8:57:13am |
Crypto talk at 28C3: Implementation of MITM Attack on HDCP-Secured Links, Day 3, 18:30, Saal 1
| 461 |
Gus Mon, Jan 2, 2012 8:58:40am |
From their website:
Some of the many topics we want to hear more about
- Cloud security
- Mobile Hacking and Telecommunications Security
- Privacy
- Net Neutrality and Censorship
- Copyright
- Exploitation Techniques
- Video Game Culture and Art
- Cryptography and Cryptoanalysis
- Reverse Engineering
- Forensics and Anti-Forensics
- Web Security
- Electronic Music and Literature
- Retrocomputing
- Economical Systems – think about collapsing financial markets and anonymous money transfers
- Constructivist Epistemology
- Artificial Intelligence and Robotics – machine learning, humanoid robots, RoboCup, autonomous cars
- Transportation Hacking – with electronics and bus systems
- Studies about Social Networks – e.g. how different networks are being used
- The Long Tail – crowdsourcing, crowdcasting, crowdfunding, peer to peer
- Media and Internet Technologies in education
- Cyberspace identities and gender issues
- Law Enforcement Activities and Active Countersurveillance
- Revolutions
- Hacktivism
- Handling Transparency in Governmental Affairs
- Micropayment and electronic currencies
- Transportation hacking – with electronics and bus systems
- Cooking and Baking with Club-Mate
- Fun with large datasets and visualizing data
- Social Justice on the Internet
- Media and Internet Technologies in Education
- Conspiracy Theories
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Gus Mon, Jan 2, 2012 8:59:58am |
Hacking. Activism. How to hack a train? Conspiracy theories? Exploitation techniques? Gee I feel comfortable already. All warm and fuzzy...
Transportation Hacking – with electronics and bus systems?
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Mon, Jan 2, 2012 9:00:17am |
re: #460 Gus 802
Crypto talk at 28C3: Implementation of MITM Attack on HDCP-Secured Links, Day 3, 18:30, Saal 1
who you were talking to right now?!
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Gus Mon, Jan 2, 2012 9:01:04am |
re: #463 Sergey Romanov
who you were talking to right now?!
///
Buzz Aldrin!
Starts of course in #447. Another group of potentially dangerous freaks.
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sattv4u2 Mon, Jan 2, 2012 9:01:13am |
re: #459 yitzy
Hey! I went to grad school in Michigan! Go Blue! B-)
Michigan doesn't play today (they play tomorrow)
Michigan State plays today
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sattv4u2 Mon, Jan 2, 2012 9:03:12am |
re: #462 Gus 802
Hacking. Activism. How to hack a train? Conspiracy theories? Exploitation techniques? Gee I feel comfortable already. All warm and fuzzy...
Transportation Hacking – with electronics and bus systems?
It's okay
After they do that, they'll have cookies!!
Cooking and Baking with Club-Mate
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Killgore Trout Mon, Jan 2, 2012 9:03:49am |
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Gus Mon, Jan 2, 2012 9:04:21am |
re: #467 Killgore Trout
The video about the Zionists owning the moon is a hoot!
Yeah. A real piece of work ain't he?
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sattv4u2 Mon, Jan 2, 2012 9:04:52am |
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Gus Mon, Jan 2, 2012 9:05:21am |
re: #466 sattv4u2
It's okay
After they do that, they'll have cookies!!
Cooking and Baking with Club-Mate
Maybe it's a mix-up in translation. Who knows. I doubt it though. My spidey-sense is on high.
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NJDhockeyfan Mon, Jan 2, 2012 9:05:26am |
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Killgore Trout Mon, Jan 2, 2012 9:07:09am |
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Killgore Trout Mon, Jan 2, 2012 9:07:54am |
OWS is leaderless so the leaders can't be insane maniacs!
/Win!
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sattv4u2 Mon, Jan 2, 2012 9:08:59am |
Morons
Four Attacks in Queens With Homemade Firebombs
[Link: www.nytimes.com...]
A wave of arson attacks spread across eastern Queens on Sunday night, and the police said the firebombings were being investigated as bias crimes — with Muslims as the targets
In three of the four attacks, the police said, Molotov cocktails were made with Starbucks bottles.
Sophisticated bastards!
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Gus Mon, Jan 2, 2012 9:09:07am |
re: #475 Killgore Trout
OWS is leaderless so the leaders can't be insane maniacs!
/Win!
Leaderless groups have an easy out to never take responsibility for their actions. We don't have a leader therefore he doesn't speak for us! Then how the hell is that even a movement? It's like a ship without a captain.
| 478 |
Gus Mon, Jan 2, 2012 9:09:47am |
It's a car! But there's no driver.
It's not our fault the car crashed into a group of pedestrians. There's no driver!
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Gus Mon, Jan 2, 2012 9:10:52am |
It's like Ron Paul's newletters weren't written by Ron Paul. Right? It was a collective and they didn't speak for me! But, but...
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sattv4u2 Mon, Jan 2, 2012 9:12:06am |
re: #477 Gus 802
Leaderless groups have an easy out to never take responsibility for their actions. We don't have a leader therefore he doesn't speak for us! Then how the hell is that even a movement? It's like a ship without a captain.
No leaders
All followers
recipe for success!~!
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Mon, Jan 2, 2012 9:12:45am |
re: #479 Gus 802
are you responsible for crazies of ows during your support phase?
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NJDhockeyfan Mon, Jan 2, 2012 9:14:01am |
Some 800 Occupy Wall Street protesters began the new year by trying to retake Zuccotti Park last night, starting a massive clash with police in which one officer was stabbed in the hand with a pair of scissors.
A suspect was arrested in the 11:30 p.m. incident, according to a law enforcement source.
Hundreds in the crowd of occupiers then surrounded the ambulance as it tried to leave with the wounded officer, the source said.
The officer, who was not identified, was taken to Bellevue Hospital in stable condition.
Just one person stabbed the cop.
Just one group surrounded the ambulance to keep it from leaving.
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jaunte Mon, Jan 2, 2012 9:14:23am |
re: #480 sattv4u2
Everyone is their own leader and follower in one; it's a Multiply Organized Body.
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Gus Mon, Jan 2, 2012 9:15:56am |
re: #481 Sergey Romanov
are you responsible for crazies of ows during your support phase?
If one expects any semblance of order, logic, rationality, etc. And most important at least a semblance to normalcy. Fringe movements of course can never speak for the masses. And it's once again proving that they do not speak for the 99% but a small segment of American society. Which is fine itself and they have their 1st Amendment right to do so as long as they obey common law. However, I never expect them to find any popular support. So yes, if you want any movement to take hold it's always a good idea to take responsibility for the crazies -- typically by driving the bus over them which is a common practice in politics.
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Gus Mon, Jan 2, 2012 9:18:43am |
re: #483 jaunte
Everyone is their own leader and follower in one; it's a Multiply Organized Body.
Yes, yes. It's an organism! Let it flow! Come. Join us!
Errrrr, no.
| 486 |
dragonath Mon, Jan 2, 2012 9:21:49am |
re: #461 Gus 802
Cooking and Baking with Club-Mate
[Link: www.hackpittsburgh.org...]
open source lawl
Wouldn't it just be easier to buy a pack of Jolt Cola or something?
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Mon, Jan 2, 2012 9:22:26am |
re: #484 Gus 802
i don't expect anything good from the decaying remnants of the ows corpse, of course, so throwing select crazies under the bus is not really an option at this point - the ows is mostly chaff now. of course, this is now, and that was then.
i'm sure when you were a supporter, it was a legitimate support of a more or less legitimate movement. and when there were crazies, they weren't representative of the whole. arguing otherwise is possible, of course, but then all those who supported ows and don't now should take their share of the blame.
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Gus Mon, Jan 2, 2012 9:24:26am |
re: #487 Sergey Romanov
i don't expect anything good from the decaying remnants of the ows corpse, of course, so throwing select crazies under the bus is not really an option at this point - the ows is mostly chaff now. of course, this is now, and that was then.
i'm sure when you were a supporter, it was a legitimate support of a more or less legitimate movement. and when there were crazies, they weren't representative of the whole. arguing otherwise is possible, of course, but then all those who supported ows and don't now should take their share of the blame.
I can accept that. :)
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sattv4u2 Mon, Jan 2, 2012 9:25:15am |
Just in case anyone cares
IHOP makes a GREAT Mushroom/ Spinach omelet
((just had my leftover piece from when the family went there the other night))
| 490 |
b_sharp Mon, Jan 2, 2012 9:27:16am |
re: #489 sattv4u2
Just in case anyone cares
IHOP makes a GREAT Mushroom/ Spinach omelet
((just had my leftover piece from when the family went there the other night))
Dumpster diving again?
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sattv4u2 Mon, Jan 2, 2012 9:28:22am |
| 493 |
Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Mon, Jan 2, 2012 9:31:42am |
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Jan 2, 2012 9:33:11am |
re: #489 sattv4u2
Just in case anyone cares
IHOP makes a GREAT Mushroom/ Spinach omelet
((just had my leftover piece from when the family went there the other night))
The best thing about a garden omelet? They're almost impossible to fuck up.
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sattv4u2 Mon, Jan 2, 2012 9:33:20am |
| 497 |
Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Mon, Jan 2, 2012 9:33:23am |
*under the masonic moooon*
*whistles*
| 498 |
Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Mon, Jan 2, 2012 9:33:54am |
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Gus Mon, Jan 2, 2012 9:34:12am |
re: #497 Sergey Romanov
*under the masonic mooon*
*whistles*
Sure was some crazy buckets there. Whew.
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sattv4u2 Mon, Jan 2, 2012 9:34:22am |
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Gus Mon, Jan 2, 2012 9:34:58am |
re: #498 Sergey Romanov
we'll debate this too.
I don't think so! Why do you always do this?
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Mon, Jan 2, 2012 9:35:15am |
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Mon, Jan 2, 2012 9:35:35am |
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sattv4u2 Mon, Jan 2, 2012 9:35:38am |
re: #495 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
The best thing about a garden omelet? They're almost impossible to fuck up.
I actually thought of you for a moment when I was ordering it the othre night
((how sad is MY life that when I'm out dining with my wife and son,, I thought about YOU!!))
| 511 |
Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Mon, Jan 2, 2012 9:37:40am |
damn you stabby fingers
| 514 |
Gus Mon, Jan 2, 2012 9:38:18am |
The hashtag tyranny is upon us! Down with the Bush-Obama-Drone-Industrial-Complex!
//
| 515 |
NJDhockeyfan Mon, Jan 2, 2012 9:38:52am |
re: #514 Gus 802
The hashtag tyranny is upon us! Down with the Bush-Obama-Drone-Industrial-Complex!
//
Ron Paul 2012!
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Mon, Jan 2, 2012 9:39:28am |
John Peter 2013!
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NJDhockeyfan Mon, Jan 2, 2012 9:41:19am |
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sattv4u2 Mon, Jan 2, 2012 9:41:36am |
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b_sharp Mon, Jan 2, 2012 9:42:25am |
re: #519 NJDhockeyfan
To you have to rob Peter to pay Paul?
I saw that as: "you have to rub Peter to pay Paul"
| 523 |
Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Mon, Jan 2, 2012 9:42:44am |
mary had a little paul
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Mon, Jan 2, 2012 9:45:42am |
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kirkspencer Mon, Jan 2, 2012 10:44:31am |
re: #304 Naso Tang
I'm no economist, but I'm sure a certain level of savings is very important, otherwise one is living day to day, so to speak, and that is very unstable.
Sorry to be so late getting back to this, but this is Keynes' paradox of thrift.
Savings is good for individuals. Savings is not good for the society in which the individual operates - the economy.
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