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1 Daniel Ballard  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 5:21:44pm

LOL LOL!

2 Kragar  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 5:37:15pm

The bottom news feed is funny as shit

3 Sheila Broflovski  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 5:39:24pm

re: #2 Kragar

The bottom news feed is funny as shit

You have to watch it again, with the sound turned off.

4 Decatur Deb  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 5:41:00pm

The nubile young ChristianMingle above thinks I'm Christian and single. Wrong on at least one count.

5 Shiplord Kirel  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 5:41:21pm

Like Chitty-Chitty-Bang-Bang.

Odd facts about Chitty-Chitty-Bang-Bang:

The author of the book,Chitty-Chitty-Bang-Bang: the Magical Car, was none other than Ian Fleming of James Bond fame. The goofy movie was a very loose adaptation.

There was a REAL car called "Chitty-Bang-Bang" from which Fleming derived the title, actually several of them. They were built by Count Louis Zborowski in the early 1920s. They could not fly but not for lack of horsepower. The first one was propelled by a 23 liter Great War surplus Maybach airship engine. The count put the zepp engine onto a 1913 chain-drive Mercedes chassis, added some rudimentary body work, and went about frightening horses and every other living creature in his path. He also won some races with it. The crude machine would do about 120 mph, but it had buggy type brakes on the rear wheels only, it retained the chain drive, and it used a live axle suspension only slightly more advanced than that found on 19th century stagecoaches. Not for the faint of heart, nor perhaps the sound of mind.
3 more Chittys were built with various surplus aero-engines. Chitty 4, better known as the Higham Special or "Babs", still exists and is quite a story in and of itself.

6 Decatur Deb  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 5:44:38pm

re: #5 Shiplord Kirel

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

7 Kragar  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 5:44:40pm

re: #4 Decatur Deb

The nubile young ChristianMingle above thinks I'm Christian and single. Wrong on at least one count.

I've got Gold ads.

8 Decatur Deb  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 5:46:10pm

re: #7 Kragar

I've got Gold ads.

You haven't been defining the Catholic economy of salvation.

9 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 5:48:21pm

re: #7 Kragar

I've got Gold ads.

I've got cable. Cause I had to sign up for a new carrier today.

TAKE MY MONEY, NOW YOU PEOPLE.

10 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 5:49:17pm

Moving is extremely expensive. I'm dying. Labor on Sunday? Will you please take this 12 pack and my gas grill?

11 Kragar  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 5:49:27pm

re: #8 Decatur Deb

You haven't been defining the Catholic economy of salvation.

What can be greater than selling someone a product they can't return?

12 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 5:50:34pm

And her tweets, while usually great, are pissing me the fuck off.

thanks for listening.

13 Kragar  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 5:54:04pm

re: #12 Residence: Hopeandchangeistan 2012

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And her tweets, while usually great, are pissing me the fuck off.

thanks for listening.

To make you feel better, I'm posting a video of a turtle fucking a shoe.

14 Varek Raith  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 5:56:55pm

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

15 Killgore Trout  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 5:59:04pm

re: #12 Residence: Hopeandchangeistan 2012

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And her tweets, while usually great, are pissing me the fuck off.

thanks for listening.

Anthony Bourdain's twitter is a better follow

16 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 6:22:51pm

re: #15 Killgore Trout

Anthony Bourdain's twitter is a better follow

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I love Ruth.

17 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 6:26:07pm
18 Kragar  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 6:34:14pm

Oh, you just know this is going to turn out great.

Bradlee Dean Fires Back At Judge Who Ordered Him To Pay Rachel Maddow’s Legal Fees

Dean is seeking D.C. Superior Court Judge Joan Zeldon’s recusal from the case after, on June 25, she ruled that Dean must pay nearly $25,000 in legal fees.

“Judges are to enforce the law, not to defend lawbreakers and then award them money,” Dean said in a statement Tuesday. Dean sued MSNBC, Rachel Maddow and a Minnesota alternative publication last summer, claiming comments on his radio show about homosexuals were taken out of context. Alleging slander and false light, Dean sought damages in excess of $50 million.

In the notice filed on Monday, Dean’s lawyer, Larry Klayman — founder of Freedom Watch — claims that Zeldon showed bias and favoritism toward the defendants in the case. Klayman alleges that Zeldon made “snide and offensive comments” against him after he was unable to travel from Los Angeles to Washington, D.C. to appear in court. “Judge Zeldon mocked and ridiculed Plaintiffs and their counsel while, to the contrary, Judge Zeldon referred to Defendants’ counsel approvingly as ‘distinguished,’ stating in effect that Plaintiffs and their counsel are not.”

Dean, in the notice, goes so far as to say Judge Zeldon’s “bias” is evident in her “acting like a ‘woman scorned.’”

19 Killgore Trout  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 6:38:47pm

Top Romney Backer Taunts Andrea Mitchell Over Obama's 'Outsourcing' (video)

"You're struggling, Andrea," he said, laughing. "You're struggling."

I Can't vouch for his talking points but this is embarrassing. Truly laughable.

20 Sheila Broflovski  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 6:40:37pm

re: #19 Killgore Trout

Top Romney Backer Taunts Andrea Mitchell Over Obama's 'Outsourcing' (video)

I Can't vouch for his talking points but this is embarrassing. Truly laughable.

John Sununu. G-D what an insufferable, miserable little douchey douche.

21 Kragar  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 6:41:08pm

re: #19 Killgore Trout

Top Romney Backer Taunts Andrea Mitchell Over Obama's 'Outsourcing' (video)

I Can't vouch for his talking points but this is embarrassing. Truly laughable.

Someone wrote "act like dicks" into the campaign strategy as a joke but no one in the Romney camp caught it.

22 Killgore Trout  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 6:41:20pm

re: #20 Learned Mother of Zion

John Sununu. G-D what an insufferable, miserable little douchey douche.

Yet he comes out on top.

24 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 6:44:04pm

May I fucking repost?

25 Kronocide  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 6:45:08pm

Incoming Irrelevance Alert!

26 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 6:45:39pm

re: #22 Killgore Trout

Yet he comes out on top.

It's a good tactic. Few people watching MSNBC are going to vote for Romney, so simply slapping at their people if they stumble is smart politics: It shows Republican voters that Mitt Romney and his supporters do not fear the MSM and are prepared to take the fight to the media. People who say Mitchell was mistreated for the most part would not say that if it was Laura Ingram getting pounced on by an Obama supporter. Politics ain't beanbag.

27 Kragar  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 6:47:45pm

re: #25 Kronocide

Incoming Irrelevance Alert!

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Get back in your bunk Jayne

28 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 6:47:48pm

re: #25 Kronocide

Incoming Irrelevance Alert!

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He writes for the Breitbart site "Big Hollywood".

29 palomino  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 6:51:05pm

re: #19 Killgore Trout

Top Romney Backer Taunts Andrea Mitchell Over Obama's 'Outsourcing' (video)

I Can't vouch for his talking points but this is embarrassing. Truly laughable.

Sununu accuses Obama of class warfare...what a load of shit. The GOP has been vilifying the 50% who don't pay FEDERAL income tax for years now. They've sliced and diced the population into "makers vs. takers", "job creators vs. everyone else", etc.

As Warren Buffet, one of the most successful capitalists in our history, said not long ago, "Yes, there is class warfare in America. And my class is winning."

30 Kronocide  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 6:51:08pm

re: #28 Dark_Falcon

He writes for the Breitbart site "Big Hollywood".

What? He derps for Big Derp? That's what I thought.

31 Decatur Deb  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 6:51:53pm

re: #23 Kragar

GOP strategist Ed Rollins: GOP Needs To Be Less Old, Fat And White

I think their problems go deeper than Grecian Formula, Jenny Craig, and Man Tan.

32 palomino  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 6:54:05pm

re: #26 Dark_Falcon

It's a good tactic. Few people watching MSNBC are going to vote for Romney, so simply slapping at their people if they stumble is smart politics: It shows Republican voters that Mitt Romney and his supporters do not fear the MSM and are prepared to take the fight to the media. People who say Mitchell was mistreated for the most part would not say that if it was Laura Ingram getting pounced on by an Obama supporter. Politics ain't beanbag.

Well done, you're getting your talking points down pat just like a good little gop soldier. It doesn't matter that Romney has been on every side of every issue or that he has the soul of a cardboard box.

At least he's not whipping those uppity blacks into a frenzy like the race-baiter Holder, right?

33 palomino  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 6:56:33pm

re: #23 Kragar

GOP strategist Ed Rollins: GOP Needs To Be Less Old, Fat And White

Says the old fat white guy Rollins. I actually like him a lot more than most political strategists on either side...seems less angry and more honest, like Donna Brazile or Alex Castellanos, as boring as they may sometimes be.

Rollins seems to have some self-awareness, something the GOP sorely lacks. Disenfranchising voters, or even making the voting process more burdensome, is not gonna help the party with the groups that aren't old, fart, fat and white.

34 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 6:56:41pm

re: #32 palomino

If you think my analysis is in error, then point to the error. Otherwise step off.

35 kirkspencer  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 6:57:29pm

re: #29 palomino

Sununu accuses Obama of class warfare...what a load of shit. The GOP has been vilifying the 50% who don't pay FEDERAL income tax for years now. They've sliced and diced the population into "makers vs. takers", "job creators vs. everyone else", etc.

As Warren Buffet, one of the most successful capitalists in our history, said not long ago, "Yes, there is class warfare in America. And my class is winning."

All it takes to make 50% of the people start paying income taxes is to pay them enough to be taxed.

36 goddamnedfrank  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 6:58:37pm

re: #22 Killgore Trout

Yet he comes out on top.

Maybe, if you're into sucking off old condescending pricks. Squirt Squirt.

Here are two SEC filings from July 2000 and February 2001 in which Romney lists his “principal occupation” as “Managing Director of Bain Capital, Inc.”

Romney’s argument is that it doesn’t matter what he said on these SEC filings. Whatever they say, he really wasn’t at Bain anymore. But absent of any evidence, how is it that anyone can be expected to disregard what Mitt actually told the SEC at the time?

37 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 6:58:37pm

re: #33 palomino

Says the old fat white guy Rollins. I actually like him a lot more than most political strategists on either side...seems less angry and more honest, like Donna Brazile or Alex Castellanos, as boring as they may sometimes be.

Rollins seems to have some self-awareness, something the GOP sorely lacks. Disenfranchising voters, or even making the voting process more burdensome, is not gonna help the party with the groups that aren't old, fart, fat and white.

He does have an autobiography called "Bare Knuckles and Back Rooms" which details his life through early 1995. Its a good read.

38 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 7:01:12pm

re: #36 goddamnedfrank

Downding is not for being harsh, but for using the same sort of obscene sexual style of attack as the Stalkers use. You're not "Princess Natasha", "ISTE" or any other of that hateful crew. You're better than them, Frank, please talk like it.

39 palomino  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 7:01:36pm

re: #34 Dark_Falcon

If you think my analysis is in error, then point to the error. Otherwise step off.

Holder's not a race baiter, he's calling it what it is--an extra burden on voting meant to suppress turnout which invariably helps Republican candidates.

You're taking the traditional paranoid Limbaugh line that the MSM is completely against the GOP. It's shorthand for actually dealing with substance...you just play the "mean lefty MSM" card and you're done with discussing anything.

As far as telling me to "step off," didn't you just say "politics ain't beanbag." Does that axiom just apply to the rest of us? Physician, heal thyself.

40 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 7:03:12pm

re: #36 goddamnedfrank

Maybe, if you're into sucking off old condescending pricks. Squirt Squirt.

I just don't know, but the war hero/POW McCain sounds so much better than Romney. And we know where that ended.

41 palomino  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 7:03:35pm

re: #22 Killgore Trout

Yet he comes out on top.

On top of what? A pile of Rollins' old fat white guys?

Sununu may have gotten the better of that round, but if you watch him often, you realize he's a nearly unhinged screaming surrogate meant simply to fire up the hysterical RW base.

42 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 7:04:04pm

Ha! Frank, I was able to repost your deeply offending post!

43 goddamnedfrank  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 7:05:58pm

re: #35 kirkspencer

All it takes to make 50% of the people start paying income taxes is to pay them enough to be taxed.

This argument is wrong and it's important to point out why. When you say this you're actually couching the debate in terms that the GOP favors, that the poor don't pay their fair share of taxes, when in fact they do. The 50% of people who pay net zero income tax, meaning they get a total refund at the end of the year, includes many middle class and wealthy people who take advantage of deductions. The per child tax credit, first and second home mortgage payment deductions, student loan interest payments and capital gains losses all go into creating that 50% number and it's inaccurate to phrase it in terms of the poor simply not making enough. It's true that the poor don't make enough, but as long as there are large tax credit loopholes available to people making huge incomes it's important to recognize that the Ven diagram of the bottom 50% of tax payers will never come close to totally overlapping the bottom 50% of wage or income earners.

44 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 7:06:11pm

He has no clue how this looks.

45 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 7:06:41pm

re: #40 Residence: Hopeandchangeistan 2012

I just don't know, but the war hero/POW McCain sounds so much better than Romney. And we know where that ended.

Romney is what he is: He's not a battle leader like McCain, he's a resources and logistics man. McCain is a shooter, Romney is a paper-pusher. He is who he is. But to handle economic issues, we can do acceptably with a paper-pusher.

46 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 7:06:55pm

77K write off for an Olympian horse.

47 palomino  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 7:07:04pm

re: #35 kirkspencer

All it takes to make 50% of the people start paying income taxes is to pay them enough to be taxed.

It's something Republicans just don't get. Rich people aren't taxed because anyone hates them. Rich people are taxed because they have more money, and thus their contributions can make a dent in the deficit.

Taxing the working class and poor just won't raise anywhere near enough money. You can't squeeze blood out of a stone, and you can't raise much revenue from the bottom 50% of our nation that controls only 1.5% of our total wealth.

48 Killgore Trout  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 7:07:13pm

re: #26 Dark_Falcon

It's a good tactic. Few people watching MSNBC are going to vote for Romney, so simply slapping at their people if they stumble is smart politics: It shows Republican voters that Mitt Romney and his supporters do not fear the MSM and are prepared to take the fight to the media. People who say Mitchell was mistreated for the most part would not say that if it was Laura Ingram getting pounced on by an Obama supporter. Politics ain't beanbag.

I think she was just completely unprepared for the interview. My guess is she just thought she'd somehow come out on top and failed to anticipate the competing talking points. Big Fail.

49 Decatur Deb  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 7:07:14pm

re: #44 Residence: Hopeandchangeistan 2012

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He has no clue how this looks.

Fuck him and his dressage horse.

50 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 7:07:24pm

re: #45 Dark_Falcon

Romney is what he is: He's not a battle leader like McCain, he's a resources and logistics man. McCain is a shooter, Romney is a paper-pusher. He is who he is. But to handle economic issues, we can do acceptably with a paper-pusher.

ha. yah. He's got YOUR back!

51 Kragar  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 7:07:59pm

re: #50 Residence: Hopeandchangeistan 2012

ha. yah. He's got YOUR back!

Way back...

52 Killgore Trout  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 7:08:25pm

re: #36 goddamnedfrank

Maybe, if you're into sucking off old condescending pricks. Squirt Squirt.

I'm unpersuaded by your homophobic insult and slightly grossed out by the jizz reference.

53 Killgore Trout  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 7:08:51pm

re: #52 Killgore Trout

I'm unpersuaded by your homophobic insult and slightly grossed out by the jizz reference.

Rotating title nomination.

54 palomino  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 7:09:33pm

re: #45 Dark_Falcon

Romney is what he is: He's not a battle leader like McCain, he's a resources and logistics man. McCain is a shooter, Romney is a paper-pusher. He is who he is. But to handle economic issues, we can do acceptably with a paper-pusher.

Other than more tax cuts and even more military spending, what paper-pushing abilities and plans does Romney have to fix a broken world economy?

Because that's what it will take to fix OUR economy.

55 Targetpractice  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 7:10:15pm

re: #45 Dark_Falcon

Romney is what he is: He's not a battle leader like McCain, he's a resources and logistics man. McCain is a shooter, Romney is a paper-pusher. He is who he is. But to handle economic issues, we can do acceptably with a paper-pusher.

As I recall, Obama's predecessor was quite the paper-pusher as well. And we're still living with the consequences of his approach to economic issues.

56 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 7:11:11pm

re: #54 palomino

Other than more tax cuts and even more military spending, what paper-pushing abilities and plans does Romney have to fix a broken world economy?

Because that's what it will take to fix OUR economy.

Neither Mitt Romney nor Barack Obama can fix the world economy. America cannot prevent slowdowns in China or keep Greece within the Euro.

57 kirkspencer  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 7:12:31pm

re: #43 goddamnedfrank

This argument is wrong and it's important to point out why. When you say this you're actually couching the debate in terms that the GOP favors, that the poor don't pay their fair share of taxes, when in fact they do. The 50% of people who pay net zero income tax, meaning they get a total refund at the end of the year, includes many middle class and wealthy people who take advantage of deductions. The per child tax credit, first and second mortgage payment deductions, student loan interest payments and capital gains losses all go into creating that 50% number and it's inaccurate to phrase it in terms of the poor simply not making enough. It's true that the poor don't make enough, but as long as there are huge tax credit loopholes available to people making huge incomes it's important to recognize that the Ven diagram of the bottom 50% of tax payers aren't will never come close to totally overlapping the bottom 50% of wage or income earners.

Your response is accurate and nuanced. It's also tl;dr.

The framing is that the poor could pay taxes, but don't. I'm countering the framing.

58 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 7:12:37pm

re: #55 Targetpractice

As I recall, Obama's predecessor was quite the paper-pusher as well. And we're still living with the consequences of his approach to economic issues.

We haven't had a literal shooter since George Bush the Elder, though Clinton and Reagan could fill that role politically at times.

59 palomino  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 7:12:44pm

re: #52 Killgore Trout

I'm unpersuaded by your homophobic insult and slightly grossed out by the jizz reference.

Oh, calm down. You've called half of us pro-rape and pro-stabbing, and now you're getting the vapors due to an off-color remark?

What a laughable load...keep shoveling.

60 Targetpractice  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 7:12:56pm

re: #56 Dark_Falcon

Neither Mitt Romney nor Barack Obama can fix the world economy. America cannot prevent slowdowns in China or keep Greece within the Euro.

So then, really, promises of economic prosperity are empty ones. It doesn't matter who's in office if China or Greece push the world economy off a cliff.

61 Decatur Deb  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 7:13:24pm

re: #58 Dark_Falcon

We haven't had a literal shooter since JFK, though Clinton and Reagan could fill that role politically at times.

Bush I.

62 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 7:14:53pm

re: #59 palomino

Oh, calm down. You've called half of us pro-rape and pro-stabbing, and now you're getting the vapors due to an off-color remark?

What a laughable load...keep shoveling.

he's on his period.

How's THAT!

63 palomino  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 7:15:04pm

re: #56 Dark_Falcon

Neither Mitt Romney nor Barack Obama can fix the world economy. America cannot prevent slowdowns in China or keep Greece within the Euro.

That's one of my points regarding criticism of Obama for not magically turning the economy around.

Now, could you answer the more pressing question: other than tax cuts and even more military spending, what's Mitt's plan and how do his legendary "paper pushing" skills enable him to do so much better?

64 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 7:15:31pm

re: #61 Decatur Deb

Bush I.

Indeed. My previous post has been amended as follows:

re: #58 Dark_Falcon

We haven't had a literal shooter since George Bush the Elder, though Clinton and Reagan could fill that role politically at times.

Thank you for the error catch.

65 Mich-again  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 7:15:40pm

re: #54 palomino

Other than more tax cuts and even more military spending, what paper-pushing abilities and plans does Romney have to fix a broken world economy?

Because that's what it will take to fix OUR economy.

The tax cuts idea won't work. Look at 2011, with the 100% bonus depreciation windfall for corporations. It worked just as planned and helped lead to record corporate profits for 2011. But all that didn't lead to a windfall of new jobs. There has to be an outlook for long term increasing demand before corporations will invest in expanding production.

66 palomino  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 7:16:45pm

re: #58 Dark_Falcon

We haven't had a literal shooter since JFK, though Clinton and Reagan could fill that role politically at times.

I think LBJ qualified as a shooter. And a profane hardass wheeler dealer.

67 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 7:17:12pm
68 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 7:18:11pm

re: #60 Targetpractice

So then, really, promises of economic prosperity are empty ones. It doesn't matter who's in office if China or Greece push the world economy off a cliff.

Having the right leader can help cushion the blows, but ultimately how well the US economy does is not just up to the US, and that's been true for more than a century.

69 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 7:19:00pm

Romney Haiku's = romniku

70 Ojoe  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 7:19:01pm

Rat rod, while we are on the subject of jalopies:

"If I shine this it will look terrible." (Comment from near the end of the video).

Ignore all the glitzy TV moronic stuff at the start. Enjoy!

71 Targetpractice  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 7:19:30pm

re: #68 Dark_Falcon

Having the right leader can help cushion the blows, but ultimately how well the US economy does is not just up to the US, and that's been true for more than a century.

So, what is it that makes you believe that Willard Romney is the "right leader"?

72 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 7:22:00pm

re: #71 Targetpractice

So, what is it that makes you believe that Willard Romney is the "right leader"?

I think he's more likely to have the right ideas than Obama.

But I'm going step back a bit now, because I sense I'm about to get gang-tackled if I keep going in the vein.

BBIAB

73 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 7:22:43pm

re: #71 Targetpractice

So, what is it that makes you believe that Willard Romney is the "right leader"?

Nobama. That is all.

Hilarious how Obama on paper is close to George I. But noooo. He's been created through the rw media conglomerate to be what they fear.

74 b_sharp  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 7:23:18pm

Shit
Piss
Fuck
C^&t
Cocksucker
Motherfucker
Tits


Tatertits.

75 Targetpractice  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 7:23:35pm

re: #72 Dark_Falcon

I think he's more likely to have the right ideas than Obama.

But I'm going step back a bit now, because I sense I'm about to get gang-tackled if I keep going in the vein.

BBIAB

Dark, as noted above, you stated that politics isn't beanbag. If you're afraid of getting ganged upon when you state your opinion, then perhaps you should stop and consider if your opinion is worth defending.

76 jamesfirecat  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 7:24:11pm

re: #72 Dark_Falcon

I think he's more likely to have the right ideas than Obama.

But I'm going step back a bit now, because I sense I'm about to get gang-tackled if I keep going in the vein.

BBIAB

Let me the first to grab a mouthful of your tail feathers as you take wing....

If you can't say anything more dramatic than "I think" without explaining why you think that... you are presenting a very weak case for your presidential candidate.

Is there anything Obama could do that would make you vote for him?

77 Dancing along the light of day  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 7:24:45pm

re: #74 b_sharp

SPANKINGS!

78 The Ghost of a Flea  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 7:25:00pm

re: #34 Dark_Falcon

If you think my analysis is in error, then point to the error. Otherwise step off.

Few people watching MSNBC are going to vote for Romney, so simply slapping at their people if they stumble is smart politics: It shows Republican voters that Mitt Romney and his supporters do not fear the MSM,

You know what shows absence of fear better? Not resorting to mockery. Also, having consistent answers to questions.

and are prepared to take the fight to the media.

Answering questions equals "a fight"?

Ain't nothing tough about ducking and decoying.

Characterizing the Mainstream Media is "the enemy" or "to be feared" is kind of a smoking gun in terms of mindset. Who's the "friendly" media, and what makes them "friendly"? And how does said "friendliness" sync with journalistic ethics.

*cough* tongue bath from Hannity

People who say Mitchell was mistreated for the most part would not say that if it was Laura Ingram getting pounced on by an Obama supporter.

Oh noes the hypothetical nonexistant Obammunists are just as bad and would totally be just as mean!! And you'd all applaud this fantasy situtation because I totes knows your every reaction!

Politics ain't beanbag.

If you can't face a tough interviewer without staging a diversion you're a wuss. And setting up a media bubble where you primarily interact with "friendly" right-wing bloggers media is pretty much the definition of I will only play beanbag. Having your minions shave heads sic people that question you is more like The Princess and The Pea

79 b_sharp  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 7:25:15pm

re: #77 Dancing along the light of day

SPANKINGS!

Finally.

80 palomino  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 7:25:29pm

re: #72 Dark_Falcon

I think he's more likely to have the right ideas than Obama.

But I'm going step back a bit now, because I sense I'm about to get gang-tackled if I keep going in the vein.

BBIAB

The right ideas? You sound as vague as Romney himself. Downding for lazy hollow vagueness.

One of the only intelligent things I've ever heard Rep. Louie Gohmert (R-TXistan) ever say was, "Everybody should like Mitt Romney because at one time or another he's probably been on your side of the issue." If Kerry was a flip flopper, what the hell is Romney?

81 Kragar  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 7:26:42pm

re: #74 b_sharp

Shit
Piss
Fuck
C^&t
Cocksucker
Motherfucker
Tits

Tatertits.

Of course if you really want to be offensive, you need to start a posse

(VERY NSFW)

82 Decatur Deb  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 7:28:31pm

re: #77 Dancing along the light of day

SPANKINGS!

Tonight's safeword is 'dressage'. Tell DF.

83 b_sharp  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 7:29:10pm

re: #82 Decatur Deb

Tonight's safeword is 'dressaage'. Tell DF.

Horseshit.

84 Ojoe  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 7:30:13pm

Rat rod slide show to funky harmonica. Enjoy.

85 SpaceJesus  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 7:32:01pm

re: #17 Residence: Hopeandchangeistan 2012

is it true the whole reason mormons started to be semi ok with black people is because of BYU sports?

86 goddamnedfrank  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 7:32:05pm

re: #52 Killgore Trout

I'm unpersuaded by your homophobic insult and slightly grossed out by the jizz reference.

Looks like you can dish it out, but can't take it. Oh well. Maybe I should have thrown in a passive aggressive sarc tag for you.

87 Ojoe  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 7:32:16pm

Obbligatory Towercam.

Good nigh tall.

88 Dancing along the light of day  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 7:33:06pm

re: #82 Decatur Deb

Tonight's safeword is 'dressage'. Tell DF.

OOOH, crops & boots!

89 Mich-again  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 7:33:27pm

re: #72 Dark_Falcon

I think he's more likely to have the right ideas than Obama.

I'm on the other end of that line of thinking. I'm not going to vote for him because he has presented no workable ideas for anything. And if he did they would have to be Tea Party approved.

90 The Ghost of a Flea  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 7:34:12pm

re: #80 palomino

The right ideas? You sound as vague as Romney himself.

Romney will have all the right ideas after they're inputted into his CPU by a coalition of lobbyists.

They will be recognizable as the right ideas because they'll have a certificate of authenticity that they are 100% Correct Ideas and bear no resemblance to what occurred between 2001 and 2008 because a wizard said so.

A Christian wizard.

91 Velvet Elvis  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 7:34:25pm

Are ya'll following this one on the right wing blogs?

Calls to Destroy Egypt’s Great Pyramids Begin

92 b_sharp  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 7:34:32pm

re: #77 Dancing along the light of day

SPANKINGS!

Yer makin' my trombone horny.

93 Decatur Deb  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 7:34:42pm

re: #88 Dancing along the light of day

OOOH, crops & boots!

Giraffe boots must cost a fortune.

94 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 7:36:03pm

re: #85 SpaceJesus

is it true the whole reason mormons started to be semi ok with black people is because of BYU sports?

Probably. Although I think that black HS player from Florida who gets the BYU scholarship has NO IDEA what he's in for.

95 Targetpractice  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 7:36:48pm

re: #89 Mich-again

I'm on the other end of that line of thinking. I'm not going to vote for him because he has presented no workable ideas for anything. And if he did they would have to be Tea Party approved.

The only hint, if one could liberally call it that, as to what his economic policies would be in office is his support of the "Ryan Plan," a budget that virtually enshrines "Fuck The Poor!" as the working philosophy of the government. Since going on the campaign trail last year, he's stumbled around from one blunder to another, from suggesting tax cuts that could potentially reduce his tax burden down to nothing to suggesting that the VA be converted to a voucher system.

And now that he's secured the nomination, his speeches boil down to "I'm Not Obama, but I can't tell you how, since you wouldn't vote for me if I did."

96 Dancing along the light of day  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 7:38:32pm

re: #93 Decatur Deb

Giraffe boots must cost a fortune.

But you do like them so....
;)

97 palomino  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 7:40:12pm

re: #90 The Ghost of a Flea

Romney will have all the right ideas after they're inputted into his CPU by a coalition of lobbyists.

They will be recognizable as the right ideas because they'll have a certificate of authenticity that they are 100% Correct Ideas and bear no resemblance to what occurred between 2001 and 2008 because a wizard said so.

A Christian wizard.

Prediction: if Romney gets in the WH, the TPers will rejoin the GOP fold and drop the talk of debt destroying our country and mortgaging our grandchildren's futures, blah blah.

Deficits are OK to the right as long as they are Republican deficits. From Reagan through Bush/Cheney, this has been the m.o. of the GOP.

98 b_sharp  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 7:41:11pm

Fer cryin' out loud, what do I have to do to get downdinged around here, become KT or D_F?

99 Ojoe  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 7:41:25pm

re: #91 Velvet Elvis

That would be hard to do, but since similar crazies also destroyed that giant carving of the Buddha, I would not be surprised that they want to knock over the pyramids.

100 Decatur Deb  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 7:42:29pm

re: #99 Ojoe

That would be hard to do, but since similar crazies also destroyed that giant carving of the Buddha, I would not be surprised that they want to knock over the pyramids.

They should start after prayers on Friday--by hand.

101 Ojoe  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 7:42:44pm

And now really good night, drove the Freightliner M2 fridge truck all day.

102 MittDoesNotCompute  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 7:42:52pm

re: #74 b_sharp

Shit
Piss
Fuck
C^&t
Cocksucker
Motherfucker
Tits

Tatertits.

Betcha can't eat just one...

103 Varek Raith  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 7:44:05pm

re: #98 b_sharp

Fer cryin' out loud, what do I have to do to get downdinged around here, become KT or D_F?

;)

104 b_sharp  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 7:45:54pm

re: #103 Varek Raith

;)

Now we're cookin' with elephant dung.

105 goddamnedfrank  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 7:47:20pm

re: #85 SpaceJesus

is it true the whole reason mormons started to be semi ok with black people is because of BYU sports?

According to Wiki the sports boycotts were sporadic and picked up in the late sixties. In 1974 they settled a federal lawsuit filed by the NAACP regarding restrictions in LDS affiliated Boy Scout troop leadership positions. I'm sure the prospect of future lawsuit payouts loomed on the leadership's collective mind.

However the issue seems to have come to a head as a result of the LDS Church's international expansion:

The problem of determining priesthood eligibility in Brazil was thought to be nearly impossible due to the mixing of the races in that country. When the temple was announced, church leaders realized the difficulty of restricting persons with African descent from attending the temple in Brazil.

106 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 7:49:35pm

re: #91 Velvet Elvis

Are ya'll following this one on the right wing blogs?

Calls to Destroy Egypt’s Great Pyramids Begin

Fucking fear mongers.

107 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 7:51:51pm

re: #106 Residence: Hopeandchangeistan 2012

Fucking fear mongers.

I'm going to have to agree. Frontpagemag is a nuthouse these days, and what it reports cannot be accepted without independent verification.

108 b_sharp  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 7:52:07pm

If I get any more bored I'll become an asshole.

109 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 7:52:56pm

re: #108 b_sharp

If I get any more bored I'll become an asshole.

Come help me move!!!

110 Gus  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 7:53:38pm

re: #106 Residence: Hopeandchangeistan 2012

Fucking fear mongers.

Looks like Frontpage is expanding their horizons. First link.

111 The Ghost of a Flea  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 7:54:17pm

re: #98 b_sharp

Fer cryin' out loud, what do I have to do to get downdinged around here, become KT or D_F?

I gave you a downding. Bear it like a dueling scar.

(By which I mean contrived and largely meaningless)

112 dragonath  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 7:54:31pm

re: #69 Residence: Hopeandchangeistan 2012

Most of those entries sound like R.E.M song lyrics.

113 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 7:55:06pm

re: #110 Gus

Looks like Frontpage is expanding their horizons. First link.

So ridiculously SAD. Dad, please don't read this shit before my next visit. PLEASE.

114 Gus  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 8:01:47pm

Oh brother...

The 'God particle' and the atheists
by Dennis Prager

They found the “God particle.”

That was the headline in many of America’s news media. It turns out that the name actually derives from substituting “God-particle” for “goddamn particle,” the original name some scientists had given the elusive particle. But the media adopted the former nomenclature.

Why?

Because otherwise, the bulk of humanity would not pay attention. Physicists went nuts. And no one can blame them. For decades, they have searched for the particle that may explain why there is any mass in the universe. And $10 billion were spent on the machine that probably proved its existence.

It is therefore not meant in any disrespectful way to the enormous intellectual achievement of these scientists when I say that I identify with the mass of humanity that doesn’t really care about the existence of the Higgs boson.

Those scientists and science writers who have likened this discovery to the discovery of DNA are wrong. If significance means relevance to the human condition, the discovery of DNA merited a 10 out of 10, and the Higgs boson might merit a two.

This does not mean that the search was either a waste of time or money. Both the time and money invested were necessary because satiating human curiosity about the natural world is one of the noblest ambitions of the human race...

115 Gus  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 8:02:08pm

BRB Stupid Toyshiba is a little bloated.

116 Varek Raith  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 8:03:58pm

re: #114 Gus

Oh brother...

The 'God particle' and the atheists
by Dennis Prager

Derp.

117 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 8:04:15pm

I've been tired much of today, and its now hitting too hard for me to stay up. I'm going to go to bed early. Type to you all tomorrow.

118 dragonath  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 8:04:25pm

re: #114 Gus

Dennis Prager should celebrate by sticking his head inside a microwave

science

119 Varek Raith  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 8:07:26pm

re: #114 Gus

Oh brother...

The 'God particle' and the atheists
by Dennis Prager

Read it.
Arrogantly ignorant.

120 Gus  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 8:10:29pm

re: #118 Be Zorch, Daddio

Dennis Prager should celebrate by sticking his head inside a microwave

science

Apparently he celebrated a long time ago.

//

121 Gus  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 8:13:28pm

re: #119 Varek Raith

Read it.
Arrogantly ignorant.

But Dennis Prager know everything! He's like the conservative Buddha.

//

*Arrogantly ignorant seems to be an American tradition. Especially with these guys.

122 Gus  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 8:16:13pm

More Prager spittle:

But the atheist – scientist, philosophy professor, or your brother-in-law who sells insurance – who denies the consequences of atheism is as worthy of the same intellectual respect atheists have for those who believe in a 6,000-year-old universe.

Not only is science incapable of discovering why there is existence but scientists also confront the equally frustrating fact that the more they discover about the universe, the more they realize they do not know.

I happen to think that this was God’s built-in way of limiting man’s hubris and compelling humans to acknowledge His existence. Admittedly, however, this doesn’t always have these two effects on scientists and especially on those who believe that science will explain everything.

So, sincere congratulations to the physicists and other scientists who discovered the Higgs boson. We now think we have uncovered the force or the matter that gives us the 4 percent of the universe that we can observe (96 percent of the universe consists of “dark matter,” about which scientists know almost nothing).

Ironic as it may seem to many of these physicists, however, only if there is a God does their discovery matter. Otherwise, it is no more important than whether the Knicks beat the Celtics.

123 The Ghost of a Flea  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 8:18:51pm

re: #122 Gus

More Prager spittle:

I tried to read that, but my brain saved me by developing a learning disorder.

124 mr.fusion  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 8:20:44pm

Completely OT, but does anyone know why Drudge has only been black & white pictures the last day or so? I think it started yesterday but not sure about that

125 Gus  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 8:20:45pm

re: #123 The Ghost of a Flea

I tried to read that, but my brain saved me by developing a learning disorder.

Amazing isn't it? Keep in mind that the right wing takes Prager very seriously.

126 Our Precious Bodily Fluids  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 8:22:51pm

re: #122 Gus

Relevant:
Image: atheists.png

127 Gus  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 8:23:44pm

re: #126 Temporarily Embarrassed Millionaire

Relevant:
Image: atheists.png

Ha! Good one.

128 dragonath  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 8:24:56pm

re: #124 mr.fusion

I guess he's trying to make the world easier to look at for his audience.

129 goddamnedfrank  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 8:26:15pm

re: #124 mr.fusion

Completely OT, but does anyone know why Drudge has only been black & white pictures the last day or so? I think it started yesterday but not sure about that

Bandwidth costs started eating into his cocaine budget?

130 Varek Raith  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 8:27:36pm

re: #122 Gus

More Prager spittle:

What a neanderthal.

131 Gus  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 8:28:00pm

The Higgs boson has nothing to do with God. One can believe or not believe yet have an interest in the science whether as an amateur or physicist. It is also not meant to prove or disprove the existence of God. Yet at the same time people can see it is either. The important thing here isn't how we translate this science into laymans terms but the hard science it brings and the doors it will open to the physical universe. I find it very arrogant of Prager to make the superficial claim that this represents "life without meaning."

132 Varek Raith  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 8:28:19pm

We've only begun to scratch the surface of knowledge.

133 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 8:28:57pm

re: #124 mr.fusion

Completely OT, but does anyone know why Drudge has only been black & white pictures the last day or so? I think it started yesterday but not sure about that

End times?

134 Varek Raith  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 8:29:38pm

That's my philowhatsits thought of the year.
:P

135 Varek Raith  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 8:33:45pm

Prager would've declared aerodynamics useless because humans can't possibly fly.

Or jet propulsion. The sound barrier can't possibly be broken.

Or, holy shit how does he 'think' like this?!?!
:/

136 dragonath  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 8:34:18pm

Gotta love it when people take the same stance on theoretical physics as the Nazis did. Some people would rather debate the number of angels on a pin than learn the amount of electrons on an atom.

137 Varek Raith  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 8:37:30pm

My brain BSODed.

138 Gus  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 8:38:07pm

re: #137 Varek Raith

My brain BSODed.

My fault.

139 The Ghost of a Flea  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 8:39:13pm

re: #137 Varek Raith

My brain BSODed.

Never go full Flowers for Algernon.

140 Charles Johnson  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 8:39:37pm

The end is nigh:

141 Varek Raith  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 8:39:39pm
142 Gus  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 8:40:54pm

I find this interesting:

Not only is science incapable of discovering why there is existence but scientists also confront the equally frustrating fact that the more they discover about the universe, the more they realize they do not know.

It really depends on how you define "why." If you're talking about the existential "why" then you can't go to science for that except perhaps as a survival component of evolution. But there is no intrinsic "why" in science that is based on that such as poetry or literature. Science is like the most impartial journalists you can find adding no emotion into the hard sciences. There is also no emotion to math.

143 dragonath  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 8:42:41pm

Hey, Prager has company:

Higgs boson physicist shunned in Pakistan

In what is perhaps a sign of the growing Islamic extremism in the country, Pakistan's only Nobel laureate, who helped develop the theoretical framework that led to the apparent discovery of the subatomic "God particle" last week, is being largely scorned in his homeland because of his religious affiliation.

Adbus Salam, who died in 1996, was once hailed as a national hero for his pioneering work in physics and his contribution to Pakistan's nuclear programme. Now his name is stricken from school textbooks because he was a member of the Ahmadi sect that has been persecuted by the government and targeted by Taliban militants, who view them as heretics.

144 Gus  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 8:43:58pm

Frankly. I also find it more fascinating that humans even developed on this lonely blue planet. That is how powerful not in science alone but what almost spontaneous corroborating events, particles, stars and time can, well, create. From nothing we came. Yet here we are.

145 Varek Raith  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 8:43:59pm

re: #141 Varek Raith

Neat, it embedded.

146 Varek Raith  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 8:45:02pm

re: #144 Gus

Frankly. I also find it more fascinating that humans even developed on this lonely blue planet. That is how powerful not in science alone but what almost spontaneous corroborating events, particles, stars and time can, well, create. From nothing we came. Yet here we are.

The beginning is likely mind-boggling bizarre the like of which we will not understand.
Or pancakes.

147 Gus  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 8:45:38pm

re: #146 Varek Raith

The beginning is likely mind-boggling bizarre the like of which we will not understand.
Or pancakes.

Yep. Probably never.

148 Varek Raith  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 8:45:52pm

re: #146 Varek Raith

The beginning is likely mind-boggling bizarre the like of which we will not understand.
Or pancakes.

Though we may understand if we stick around long enough.

149 Varek Raith  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 8:46:27pm

re: #147 Gus

Yep. Probably never.

I don't like saying never but...
This time it may be true.

150 Kragar  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 8:47:07pm

re: #140 Charles Johnson

The end is nigh:

[Embedded content]

Christianity is not an excuse to be an asshole or to break the law.

151 The Ghost of a Flea  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 8:47:36pm

re: #140 Charles Johnson

The end is nigh:

Hold on...that's going down in Phoenix Arizona, and the dude is reporting to the Maricopa County Sheriff's Office?

Wingnut-on-wingnut oppression?

152 Kronocide  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 8:47:40pm

re: #122 Gus

More Prager spittle:

Wow, that was some serious high fallutin intellectual derp.

153 Varek Raith  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 8:47:59pm

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

Enough to make you go, "WTFASAURUS"

154 dragonath  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 8:51:10pm

I always liked Walt Kelly's stance on religion: it's better for the angels to keep an eye on YOU rather than the other way around.

155 Gus  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 8:52:40pm

re: #149 Varek Raith

I don't like saying never but...
This time it may be true.

I figure that's fine too. Best would be a theory as we have now. Time is the reason. We can look at fossils from 50,000 years ago. We can see star billions of years old whose light we can see which itself is another billion years old in that it took to travel. We can get some idea from those stars.

Anyway. With the Higgs boson certain "particles" can travel faster within this swamp of the Higgs field. My first thought was the future propulsion motors -- warp speed engines if you will.

156 Kronocide  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 8:53:04pm

re: #142 Gus

I find this interesting:

It really depends on how you define "why." If you're talking about the existential "why" then you can't go to science for that except perhaps as a survival component of evolution. But there is no intrinsic "why" in science that is based on that such as poetry or literature. Science is like the most impartial journalists you can find adding no emotion into the hard sciences. There is also no emotion to math.

Prager is basically doing his wordy best to elaborate on the O'Reilly Dictum: You can't explain that.

Since science cannot explain this or that, ha! Gotcha! God.

157 The Ghost of a Flea  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 8:54:29pm

re: #156 Kronocide

Prager is basically doing his wordy best to elaborate on the O'Reilly Dictum: You can't explain that.

Since science cannot explain this or that, ha! Gotcha! God.

Monotheistic God is an elaborate trick staged by Coyote and team of Henson-trained imagineers.

158 Varek Raith  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 8:54:30pm

re: #156 Kronocide

Prager is basically doing his wordy best to elaborate on the O'Reilly Dictum: You can't explain that.

Since science cannot explain this or that, ha! Gotcha! God FSM.

FTFY.

159 Gus  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 8:54:34pm

re: #156 Kronocide

Prager is basically doing his wordy best to elaborate on the O'Reilly Dictum: You can't explain that.

Since science cannot explain this or that, ha! Gotcha! God.

And the new axiom from Tea Party land.

Science today is primarily a liberal conspiracy.

First they discover the Higgs boson. Next they're taking your guns.

160 Kragar  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 8:55:49pm

More on this "Home Bible study"

The issue with Salman's case was a building in his backyard, which the City said he constructed without abiding by legal codes and safety standards. The building, reportedly used for weekly gatherings of about 30 to 40 people, has a pulpit and chairs. The building, located on his 1.5-acre property, is about 2,000 square feet and was previously labeled a "game room" by Salman but organized on the inside for worship services.

Fire and safety regulations are the tools of the Devil!

161 William Barnett-Lewis  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 8:55:58pm

re: #139 The Ghost of a Flea

Never go full Flowers for Algernon.

One of the really great stories. Going to have to find a copy and re-read at least the original short story.

162 Gus  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 8:56:54pm

re: #160 Kragar

More on this "Home Bible study"

Fire and safety regulations are the tools of the Devil!

Oops.

163 Gus  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 8:57:32pm

So THAT'S why he got arrested.

[Dennis the Menace voice.]

164 Varek Raith  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 8:57:33pm

re: #160 Kragar

More on this "Home Bible study"

Fire and safety regulations are the tools of the Devil!

Well shit.

165 Varek Raith  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 8:58:06pm

Probably ran afoul of zoning laws too.

166 The Ghost of a Flea  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 8:58:07pm

re: #160 Kragar

More on this "Home Bible study"

Fire and safety regulations are the tools of the Devil!

Martyred by fire and safety regulations doesn't have the same resonant ring to it.

167 Gus  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 8:58:48pm

There was some other guy trying to do this Christian rite on a boat somewhere around here. Turns out he was arrested. Not for the rite but for trying to attack one of the cops.

168 Kragar  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 8:58:57pm

re: #165 Varek Raith

Probably ran afoul of zoning laws too.

Yup, thats exactly what he got charged with.

169 Gus  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 8:59:24pm

Man arrested for handing out bibles in Times Square.

Turns out he was naked.

//

170 Varek Raith  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 8:59:53pm

Wish I had a 2000 square foot game room....

171 Kronocide  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 9:01:20pm

re: #168 Kragar

Yup, thats exactly what he got charged with.

No, he got arrested for holding a Bible study because he's Christian and BIGGOVERMENT. It's illegal in JanBrewerdom, as reported by Brian Fischer.

Imagine if this happened in San Francisco.

172 Kronocide  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 9:02:03pm

re: #170 Varek Raith

Wish I had a 2000 square foot game room...

Twice as big as my house. But I bet I got a much better sound system than they do! LOL

173 Varek Raith  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 9:02:57pm

So if it were a Mosque in the backyard....
...
..
.

174 Gus  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 9:03:02pm

re: #172 Kronocide

Twice as big as my house. But I bet I got a much better sound system than they do! LOL

Only way to play 38 Special.

//

175 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 9:03:31pm

g'night peeps

176 Gus  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 9:04:01pm

re: #173 Varek Raith

So if it were a Mosque in the backyard...
...
..
.

Sharia!!!!!!

177 Kragar  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 9:05:13pm

I'm building a Skull Throne in my back patio...

178 Gretchen G.Tiger  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 9:05:18pm

I thought this was adorable. THEN, I saw the Pandas on A Slide.

OMG! I whannnnnt 3 or 4.

How has your day been?

179 Kronocide  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 9:06:27pm

I love HomoSharia. Gotta make a bumpersticker.

180 Gretchen G.Tiger  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 9:06:30pm

re: #160 Kragar

More on this "Home Bible study"

Fire and safety regulations are the tools of the Devil!

I posted a Pages about this a week or so ago. Guy was not doing bible study. He has crazy youtube preaching videos and shit. I wouldn't want him as my neighbor.

181 Varek Raith  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 9:07:01pm

re: #177 Kragar

I'm building a Skull Throne in my back patio...

Got a permit for that???

182 Gretchen G.Tiger  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 9:07:55pm

re: #153 Varek Raith

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

Enough to make you go, "WTFASAURUS"

My mathmatical understanding stopped at Geometry.

183 Gus  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 9:08:32pm

re: #181 Varek Raith

Got a permit for that???

...

Democrats. God damn it. Planning department, zoning, bureaucrats, community developments, women and black studies, damn whatever all the hell. Why!!!!111ty

184 Kragar  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 9:08:48pm

re: #181 Varek Raith

Got a permit for that???

STOP REPRESSING ME!

185 Gretchen G.Tiger  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 9:09:49pm

re: #181 Varek Raith

Got a permit for that???

Only if it's small enough to fit into a *shhh* (vagina).

186 Gus  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 9:10:25pm

re: #184 Kragar

STOP REPRESSING ME!

...

Permits is only fer Muzlims. Don't you watch Michelle Malkin?

187 Gretchen G.Tiger  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 9:10:55pm
188 freetoken  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 9:12:31pm

Official: DNA ties '04 NYC death to Occupy protest

A law enforcement official says a DNA match has linked crime scene evidence from a New York City drama student's unsolved 2004 death to a chain collected after a protest that claimed affiliation with Occupy Wall Street this spring.

[...]

AHA!!

189 freetoken  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 9:13:26pm

It seems we have a new mp3 player.

190 Gretchen G.Tiger  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 9:14:05pm

A Complete God?

I didn't know there were incomplete Gods. Should I be using a big or little "g" with this God?

Actually, I think Tom Cruise is way past his "sell by" date and should STFU.

191 Gus  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 9:17:23pm

re: #188 freetoken

Official: DNA ties '04 NYC death to Occupy protest

AHA!!

[Embedded content]

Dun, dun, dun, dun.

I Renounce whatever it is that they did!

//

192 MittDoesNotCompute  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 9:17:25pm

re: #160 Kragar

More on this "Home Bible study"

Fire and safety regulations are the tools of the Devil!

Nah, Salman is just a tool, because earthly laws apparently don't apply to him and his "flock".

193 Gus  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 9:18:56pm

I Renounce!! whatever alleged call for the destruction of Egypt's pyramids although yet unproven and having nothing to do with the Muslim Brotherhood OK but whatever.

194 Gretchen G.Tiger  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 9:19:14pm

Limiting the time we spend sitting to just three hours a day could add an extra two years to our life expectancy, scientists calculate.

The intertoobs are shortening our lives!!! --I think it's an Algorelibrulsorosmarxistconsipracy.

WHAT SHALL WE DO???????

buy gold?

195 Gus  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 9:20:37pm

re: #194 ggt

Limiting the time we spend sitting to just three hours a day could add an extra two years to our life expectancy, scientists calculate.

The intertoobs are shortening our lives!!! --I think it's an Algorelibrulsorosmarxistconsipracy.

WHAT SHALL WE DO???

buy gold?

I do limit my time. Or at least I started to. I had to take a break before from the craziness. Not here.

196 Gretchen G.Tiger  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 9:21:04pm

re: #188 freetoken

Official: DNA ties '04 NYC death to Occupy protest

AHA!!

[Embedded content]

[Link: t3.gstatic.com...]
???

197 Gretchen G.Tiger  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 9:21:30pm

re: #195 Gus

I do limit my time. Or at least I started to. I had to take a break before from the craziness. Not here.

You may have extended decades to your life.

198 Gretchen G.Tiger  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 9:24:15pm

re: #195 Gus

I do limit my time. Or at least I started to. I had to take a break before from the craziness. Not here.

AT least here, you get your daily does of sarcasm and sarcasm.

199 Gus  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 9:24:45pm

re: #198 ggt

AT least here, you get your daily does of sarcasm and sarcasm.

Yep. To which I contribute.

200 The Ghost of a Flea  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 9:25:16pm

re: #194 ggt

buy gold?

BOMB IRAN.

201 Gus  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 9:25:17pm
202 Gretchen G.Tiger  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 9:26:21pm
Preverts

, merriment and mirth

all in one place!

203 Kragar  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 9:26:54pm

re: #202 ggt

, merriment and mirth

all in one place!

204 Varek Raith  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 9:28:07pm

re: #194 ggt

Limiting the time we spend sitting to just three hours a day could add an extra two years to our life expectancy, scientists calculate.

The intertoobs are shortening our lives!!! --I think it's an Algorelibrulsorosmarxistconsipracy.

WHAT SHALL WE DO???

buy gold?

Heh.

This would have more to do with the fact that the people who sit around all day are less likely to exercise. It's not a fact of A (sitting) causing B (health problems) it's more to do with the link between C (lack of excercise) and A, and C and A. It's a separate factor, and to say that A causes B is just plain wrong

205 Gus  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 9:29:42pm
206 Gretchen G.Tiger  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 9:30:31pm

re: #204 Varek Raith

Heh.

correlation does not mean causation?

207 Ming  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 9:30:42pm

This is so sad... [Link: www.nydailynews.com...] ... some fundamentalists in Arizona buried a kitten alive. The kitten was rescued, but later died. Apparently these people are affiliated with some Mormon polygamist group?

Sorry for the hellacious images, but this shows that you don't have to go halfway around the world to see pure evil. There's plenty of it right here in the American West.

208 Gretchen G.Tiger  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 9:32:25pm

re: #205 Gus

[Embedded content]

Water is the source of all life?

NONONONONONONO

God is the source of all life, none of that science heresy here!

209 Gretchen G.Tiger  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 9:34:22pm

re: #203 Kragar

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I think the term from Gus's video "preverts" is a great line. Seems like it could gain some mileage with Lizards.

210 Dancing along the light of day  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 9:38:48pm

re: #203 Kragar

[Embedded content]

Some things, I am afraid to click on ...

211 darthstar  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 9:38:49pm

The twitter is being mean to Mitt...I like it.

#ThingsRomneyShouldntSayToTheNAACP

212 Gretchen G.Tiger  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 9:40:28pm

So the anti-vaxers and raw milk and anti-fluoridated water people are right?

It's a Prevertalgorelibrulmarxistconspiracy?

I thought it was better living thru science.

and ponies.

now Kragar can post his video.

213 Gus  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 9:41:03pm

re: #211 darthstar

The twitter is being mean to Mitt...I like it.

#ThingsRomneyShouldntSayToTheNAACP

Oh jeez.

214 darthstar  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 9:42:10pm

Okay...Job interview tomorrow...need to rest up...just dropped by to see what people were saying. First company gave me a verbal offer today...not bad, but I think they can do better...so I'm going into tomorrow with a bird in the pocket, so to speak...

215 darthstar  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 9:42:49pm

re: #213 Gus

Oh jeez.

Some funny shit there...and it's in the top 5 trending.

216 Gretchen G.Tiger  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 9:43:11pm

re: #214 darthstar

Okay...Job interview tomorrow...need to rest up...just dropped by to see what people were saying. First company gave me a verbal offer today...not bad, but I think they can do better...so I'm going into tomorrow with a bird in the pocket, so to speak...

birds will shit in your pocket

but, good luck!

217 darthstar  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 9:43:37pm
218 Gus  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 9:43:44pm

re: #215 darthstar

Some funny shit there...and it's in the top 5 trending.

I know.

219 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 9:43:59pm

re: #4 Decatur Deb

The nubile young ChristianMingle above thinks I'm Christian and single. Wrong on at least one count.

Apparently Christian Mingle is used not only as a dating site, but as a sort of Christian Facebook. I learned this when one of the left-wing evangelical sites I occasionally read had a hot conversation going about it. Someone (male) had tried to 'smile' at a friend on Christian Mingle and been told he could only smile at people of the opposite sex. They were discussing the implications of this.

220 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 9:44:34pm

re: #7 Kragar

I've got Gold ads.

I've got "Stop The Obamacare Tax!"

These people really aren't tracking me very well.

221 darthstar  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 9:44:50pm

Okay...the I love Detroit one is making me laugh too hard to type...bed time for me...but I'll be linking that tag for a few days.

222 Gretchen G.Tiger  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 9:45:26pm

re: #220 SanFranciscoZionist

I've got "Stop The Obamacare Tax!"

These people really aren't tracking me very well.

I think it's a short in the wiring.

223 darthstar  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 9:45:34pm

re: #220 SanFranciscoZionist

I've got "Stop The Obamacare Tax!"

These people really aren't tracking me very well.

Obama cares.
Romney doesn't.

224 Gus  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 9:47:49pm

My experience has been that most people are not like internet people.

225 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 9:48:07pm

re: #91 Velvet Elvis

Are ya'll following this one on the right wing blogs?

Calls to Destroy Egypt’s Great Pyramids Begin

We were talking about it earlier. The general consensus is that they won't do it no matter how cool the Saudi guy thinks it would be.

226 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 9:48:59pm

re: #99 Ojoe

That would be hard to do, but since similar crazies also destroyed that giant carving of the Buddha, I would not be surprised that they want to knock over the pyramids.

Egypt ain't Afghanistan. Also, Egypt eats off those things. Also, the Great Pyramid: harder to take down than a couple of very large statues.

227 dragonath  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 9:49:12pm

re: #208 ggt

NONONONONONONO

228 Gus  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 9:49:55pm

re: #225 SanFranciscoZionist

We were talking about it earlier. The general consensus is that they won't do it no matter how cool the Saudi guy thinks it would be.

Yep. Polonium. Cyanide. Cows. GM. And BLM drones.

229 Gus  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 9:52:03pm
230 Gus  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 9:53:15pm
231 Dancing along the light of day  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 10:02:01pm

re: #230 Gus

Vroom.

232 Gretchen G.Tiger  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 10:02:06pm

re: #223 darthstar

Obama cares.
Romney doesn't.

oooh, that sounds like a t-shirt!

233 Gus  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 10:02:30pm

re: #231 Dancing along the light of day

Vroom.

Always.

234 Gretchen G.Tiger  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 10:03:54pm

re: #227 Be Zorch, Daddio

[Embedded content]

I love that show. They did a great skit on "I can't believe it's not butter" a long time ago. I was brilliant.

235 Gus  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 10:05:58pm
236 Gretchen G.Tiger  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 10:11:33pm

Have a great eveing all!

237 b_sharp  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 10:22:06pm

OK, I'm over my assholishness.

Floral, my apologies for using you as a foil to my shithead jokes.

Theoretical physics is far more important to us than most people understand. Without it, the computers we use everyday would not be possible, GPS would always be wrong, mass satellites would not exist, superconductors would be relegated to fiction, and the Bellagio fountains would be a dribble.

238 Dancing along the light of day  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 10:24:56pm

re: #237 b_sharp

Meh.

239 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 10:26:03pm

Why is this Onion video giving me flashbacks of the "Bioshock Infinite" game trailers, maybe because I can picture Ron living up there in the clouds in a completely dysfunctional White American distopia?

240 b_sharp  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 10:28:20pm

re: #226 SanFranciscoZionist

Egypt ain't Afghanistan. Also, Egypt eats off those things. Also, the Great Pyramid: harder to take down than a couple of very large statues.

Nah, I can take it down with a couple of chopsticks held in my mouth.

241 b_sharp  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 10:29:50pm

re: #238 Dancing along the light of day

Meh.

I'm sad you won't accept my apology.

bye.

242 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 10:31:03pm

re: #235 Gus

Johnny Cash - 'Hurt"

[Embedded content]

I have always liked Johnny's version better than the original N.I.N. one, the video is much more poignant and emotionally relevant to the song too.

243 The Ghost of a Flea  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 10:34:13pm

Pledging Virginity to Dad: A New Doc Explores the World of 'Purity Balls'

Alright. I'm now completely creeped out. Goodnight.

244 William Barnett-Lewis  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 10:36:32pm

re: #242 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You

I have always liked Johnny's version better than the original N.I.N. one, the video is much more poignant and emotionally relevant to the song too.

It feels wrong in a way to say it, but really it has to do with the fact that Mr. Cash was a far better artist than Mr. Reznor. I firmly believe that just about everyone has one great song hiding inside themselves and, in the case of one hit wonders, it gets out. That said, there are other real artists who can write and interpret dozens of truly great moments.

In this case, Mr. Cash interprets Mr. Reznor's only great moment. IMO & all that.

245 freetoken  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 10:37:30pm

re: #243 The Ghost of a Flea

Filmmaker Mirjam von Arx follows the Colorado Springs-based Wilson family whose patriarch, Randy, invented purity balls. Von Arx focuses on one daughter in particular, Jordyn. (The Wilsons have five daughter and two sons.) Jordyn is college-aged but not in college. “I want to be a wife and a mother,” she says. “I would hate to go off and spend thousands of dollars on an education that I wouldn’t use.” She’s also the only one of the older three sisters who isn’t married—a fact that dominates her thoughts, given she believes the most important role she could have is that of a wife. There are often shots of Jordyn wistfully looking off into the distance, watching her married sisters’ wedding videos or staring at her doted-on sister Khrystian who plays guitar and always has perfectly coiffed hair.

Colorado Springs - it figures.

246 freetoken  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 10:42:20pm

re: #243 The Ghost of a Flea

Trailer:

247 Big Joe  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 10:43:14pm

When I was a teen I was doing all I could to lose my purity balls.

248 freetoken  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 10:45:54pm
249 freetoken  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 10:47:28pm

And for those who do German:

250 Kragar  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 10:48:14pm

re: #243 The Ghost of a Flea

Pledging Virginity to Dad: A New Doc Explores the World of 'Purity Balls'

Alright. I'm now completely creeped out. Goodnight.

There is only one logical response to this.

251 freetoken  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 10:55:54pm
252 freetoken  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 11:01:44pm

US state sentences mentally retarded man to death

An African American man diagnosed with mental retardation will be executed on July 18 for killing a fellow prisoner, his lawyer said.

253 freetoken  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 11:06:37pm

And finally, WND continues its daily run of racist hate-fishing articles:

Judge to black perps: What are you doing with your lives?


They used to run these type of things only once in a while, but I guess they are so happy at the turn out in the comments that they now have these stories slotted to run continually.


Here's one of the comments:

Kanaranzi
As I've always said, and it's true... "You can take the savage out of Africa, but you can't take the savage out of the African!" You can't civilize the black african, no matter how many generations it takes to try.
2 hours ago 2 Likes

Yes, WND is Stormfront now.

254 Digital Display  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 11:09:07pm

The All-Star game pretty much sucked tonight..I love All-Star games.
I've been doing all kinds of emails and plans and stuff and I look up on the Big Screen HD Samsung and there are 2 bears fucking on Animal Planet..
Winston! Where the hell is the remote? There are Bears fucking on my TV!
Dude..I'm still eating Italian leftovers..What can I say about the blacken Chicken Alfredo pasta? Genius Hoopster..Just genius..
Shut up Winston..Where is the remote? Oh Wait..Now it's cute little furry creatures..Cool...
You could throw a couple more garlic chicken strips this way..Dude..I'm staring at you..I will not remove my gaze until you bend to my will..
More Chicken Winston?
Drop it and just move away..Slowly...
//

255 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 11:11:02pm

Waiting, waiting, waiting...

So my ophthalmologist was concerned about a "growth" on my upper right eyelid (actually between my eyelashes) when I went in to update my eyeglass prescription and sent me to a dermatologist. The Dermatologist took all of about a minute to look at it and told me that it is cancerous (most likely, probably) based on appearance and apparent rate of growth only. So he referred me to a surgical specialist who has now taken a very tiny biopsy sample of it to test and will also attempt to remove it if it turns out to indeed be cancerous.

Sigh...in the meantime I am scaring the crap out of myself by reading all the web junk about all the various forms of cancer (3) it could be and about the possible surgical methods and outcomes of it's removal. I don't think I am going to be getting much sleep until I hear the biopsy results and what the proposed plan of action is...the idea of someone cutting up my eyelid is rather scary for some strange reason.

...meanwhile, still waiting. :(

256 Kragar  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 11:12:17pm

re: #254 Digital Display

The All-Star game pretty much sucked tonight..I love All-Star games.
I've been doing all kinds of emails and plans and stuff and I look up on the Big Screen HD Samsung and there are 2 bears fucking on Animal Planet..
Winston! Where the hell is the remote? There are Bears fucking on my TV!
Dude..I'm still eating Italian leftovers..What can I say about the blacken Chicken Alfredo pasta? Genius Hoopster..Just genius..
Shut up Winston..Where is the remote? Oh Wait..Now it's cute little furry creatures..Cool...
You could throw a couple more garlic chicken strips this way..Dude..I'm staring at you..I will not remove my gaze until you bend to my will..
More Chicken Winston?
Drop it and just move away..Slowly...
//

257 freetoken  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 11:15:07pm

re: #255 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You

If it is a tumor, let's hope that it is an easily treatable (and not uncommon) Lipoma.

258 freetoken  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 11:53:41pm

Rachmaninoff Concerto No. 2 in C Minor, with the composer at the piano and Stokowski conducting the Philadelphia Orchestra, 1929:


259 CriticalDragon1177  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 11:55:16pm

Charles Johnson,

Probably not the most accurate portrayal of how Ron Paul thinks, but he really isn't the brightest bulb in the box on a lot of things. He maybe right about a few things through, but even those things, with only one or two exceptions, I'm not sure of.

260 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You  Tue, Jul 10, 2012 11:57:59pm

Another book I had to give up on after reading only the first 70 pages or so, the supposed Merv Griffin biography "A Life in the Closet" by infamous Hollywood smear artist Darwin Porter.

Good thing Merv is dead and can't sue him for libel isn't it?

Some of the stuff he starts out telling is somewhat plausible but I found myself disinterested in the name dropping of every male star that Merv had supposedly blown or slept with. By page fifty or so the writer completely leaves the realm of non-fiction and starts "quoting" multi-paragraph conversations between Merv and other Hollywood stars (who are also conveniently dead) verbatim as if he had been there with a tape recorder running.

I thought maybe I would get some insight into Merv's character and background or how he worked his way up from a nobody to a media mogul worth billions. Nope, just a "blow-by-blow" (excuse the pun) supposed record of every time Merv ever engaged in a Homosexual sex act (at least as long as his partner is famous enough to mention too) in his entire life.

Actually it seems that 95% of the supposedly "factual" material in this book is all "sourced" by one man who was Merv's long time friend...
1. I wonder how much he got paid?
2. With friends like that who needs enemies?

This is what I get for trying to read all the books my Aunt passes on to my after she is done with them, hah, and she claims she doesn't like/never reads fiction! :p

261 goddamnedfrank  Wed, Jul 11, 2012 12:05:30am

Fascinating:

Attractive Hyon Song-wol, who used to front the Bochonbo Electronic Music Band, enjoyed chart success with hits including Excellent Horse-Like Lady, Footsteps of Soldiers, I Love Pyongyang, She is a Discharged Soldier and We are Troops of the Party.

According to South Korean intelligence the pair became romantically involved a decade ago after Kim Jong-un returned from an elite private school in the Swiss city of Berne.

But his father Kim Jong-il, who died in December last year, reportedly ordered him to end the relationship.

A South Korean intelligence official told the JoonAng Daily newspaper in Seoul: 'The two have known each other since they were in their teens and rumours about the two having an affair have been circulating among Pyongyang's top elite.'

The singer, whose popularity peaked around 2005, is believed to have been married to an officer in the North Korean Army with whom she had a baby.

1.) I love the phrase "Excellent Horse-Like Lady" and plan to say it a lot, often in contextually meaningless situations.

2.) I believe I have heard this story before.

Legend said that Octavian fell immediately in love with her, despite the fact that he was still married to Scribonia.[6] Octavian divorced Scribonia in 39 BC, on the very day that she gave birth to his daughter Julia the Elder.[7] Seemingly around that time, when Livia was six months pregnant, Tiberius Claudius Nero was persuaded or forced by Octavian to divorce Livia. On 14 January, the child was born. Octavian and Livia married on January 17, waiving the traditional waiting period. Tiberius Claudius Nero was present at the wedding, giving her in marriage "just as a father would."

262 goddamnedfrank  Wed, Jul 11, 2012 12:07:07am

Double post. Deleted.

263 ReamWorks SKG  Wed, Jul 11, 2012 12:18:37am

Greetings from Stockholm! Just landed.

Fortunately, I don't have to put the bed in the hotel room together with an allen wrench.

I'll post some photos as soon as I get my bearings. Everyone here looks like Abba.

264 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You  Wed, Jul 11, 2012 12:33:02am

re: #263 ReamWorks SKG

Greetings from Stockholm! Just landed.

...Everyone here looks like Abba.

Could be worse, if they all looked like "The Scorpions" no one would ever even get off the planes....

265 ReamWorks SKG  Wed, Jul 11, 2012 12:37:27am

Photo from hotel window:

Now it's time to go out and explore! I want some meatballs

Image: -1.jpg

266 freetoken  Wed, Jul 11, 2012 12:54:57am

re: #265 ReamWorks SKG

linky no worky

267 researchok  Wed, Jul 11, 2012 12:58:09am

Morning, all

268 freetoken  Wed, Jul 11, 2012 1:52:52am
269 researchok  Wed, Jul 11, 2012 1:57:57am

I'm still taking in the Rachmaninoff....

Just what I needed after a crazy yesterday

270 researchok  Wed, Jul 11, 2012 2:04:37am

re: #258 freetoken

Perfect.

The word is overused a lot, but in this case, absolutely accurate.

Great recording.

TY

271 researchok  Wed, Jul 11, 2012 2:09:02am

re: #268 freetoken

Timeless.

As good today as it was back then.

272 engineer cat  Wed, Jul 11, 2012 2:13:54am

re: #268 freetoken

[Embedded content]

i forget if i told you this story before:

when i heard this song back in the 60s when i was a teenager, i actually went looking for the words of the prophets written on the subway walls

273 freetoken  Wed, Jul 11, 2012 3:37:26am
274 freetoken  Wed, Jul 11, 2012 4:17:56am

Coal is King, all over the world:

Coal-Starved Power Utilities To Get Freight Link Succor

[...]

The capacity of railways to carry coal will rise to 400 million tons a year from 50 million tons, Saxena said.

[...]

275 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Wed, Jul 11, 2012 5:35:55am

Morning Lizardim from the warm and sunny wild north country. Tomorrow at this time, I'll be hammer down and throttle up on my way out of the North Star State back to fish country for a well-earned vacation. Or at least, I think I've earned it; my boss would probably disagree. What's new on the front lines of the war on derp?

276 Shropshire_Slasher  Wed, Jul 11, 2012 5:48:06am

Everybody loves a list.
[Link: www.timesunion.com...]
Top 20 TV moments.

277 Decatur Deb  Wed, Jul 11, 2012 5:53:39am

re: #255 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You

Waiting, waiting, waiting...

So my ophthalmologist was concerned about a "growth" on my upper right eyelid (actually between my eyelashes) when I went in to update my eyeglass prescription and sent me to a dermatologist. The Dermatologist took all of about a minute to look at it and told me that it is cancerous (most likely, probably) based on appearance and apparent rate of growth only. So he referred me to a surgical specialist who has now taken a very tiny biopsy sample of it to test and will also attempt to remove it if it turns out to indeed be cancerous.

Sigh...in the meantime I am scaring the crap out of myself by reading all the web junk about all the various forms of cancer (3) it could be and about the possible surgical methods and outcomes of it's removal. I don't think I am going to be getting much sleep until I hear the biopsy results and what the proposed plan of action is...the idea of someone cutting up my eyelid is rather scary for some strange reason.

...meanwhile, still waiting. :(

Good luck with the outcome. When this is over, go rent the '60s movie Cleo from 5 to 7.

278 Shropshire_Slasher  Wed, Jul 11, 2012 6:00:08am

I have discovered Chobani yogurt.
mmmmmmmmmmmgood!

279 GunstarGreen  Wed, Jul 11, 2012 6:01:09am

Picking up a comment from freetoken in the previous thread...

Hehe... The Salem Communications propaganda site known as HotAir struggles to deal with this James Earl Jones interview clip:

[Embedded content]

HotWingnuts just can't take the Jones' statments - it's as if their brains just can't get what J.E.J. is saying.

From the article (emphasis mine):

Is there anyone among the principals of the original “Star Wars” cast who isn’t completely in the bag for the left? Lucas: Check. Carrie Fisher: Check. Harrison Ford: Check. Mark Hamill: Check. Now this guy. I’m almost afraid to ask how the stuntmen who played the robots are voting. If I find out that R2-D2 supports single-payer, my DVDs are going straight into the trash.

Holy cow, that's some weapons-grade derp.

280 darthstar  Wed, Jul 11, 2012 6:02:13am

Mornin' everyone...Looks like #ThingsRomneyShouldSayToNAACP is still trending...

281 darthstar  Wed, Jul 11, 2012 6:05:04am
282 Gretchen G.Tiger  Wed, Jul 11, 2012 6:12:33am

It's morning.

283 darthstar  Wed, Jul 11, 2012 6:15:04am

re: #282 ggt

It's morning.

It's a good morning.

284 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jul 11, 2012 6:17:18am

More tenuous claims about Romney’s Bain Capital record

Time and again, we’ve dinged campaigns when they’ve blamed Romney for Bain-related outsourcing and layoffs that didn’t happen under his watch. We’ve allowed some leeway when these groups attack the candidate for his tenure as chief executive, because that’s largely “fair game for scrutiny of his record as a business executive,” as we said in a previous column.

Still, this Priorities USA ad goes too far. Only a relatively small portion of the supposed 14,000 layoffs could have occurred during Romney’s time with Bain, and it’s impossible to know how much blame to pin on the former executive for the remaining losses. Furthermore, the ad misleadingly suggests that Romney himself collected $92 million in profits from bankrupt companies, but all the Bain partners would have shared that money.

Priorities USA earns three Pinocchios for its latest attack on GOP challenger’s Bain record. The claims are only slightly less tenuous than Romney’s boast of creating 100,000 jobs.

285 darthstar  Wed, Jul 11, 2012 6:18:24am

Yeah...I can see where it would take six writers to come up with that.

Image: 564104_10151020820294723_1069335666_n.jpg

286 Gretchen G.Tiger  Wed, Jul 11, 2012 6:18:40am

re: #243 The Ghost of a Flea

Pledging Virginity to Dad: A New Doc Explores the World of 'Purity Balls'

Alright. I'm now completely creeped out. Goodnight.

Yeah, because a female's vagina is owned by the man in her life. First her father, who sells it to her husband.

didn't you know?

287 Gretchen G.Tiger  Wed, Jul 11, 2012 6:19:50am

re: #283 darthstar

It's a good morning.

uuh

288 darthstar  Wed, Jul 11, 2012 6:20:15am

re: #284 Killgore Trout

More tenuous claims about Romney’s Bain Capital record

The Bain story is hurting Mitt Romney. He might as well run on his record as governor.

289 Decatur Deb  Wed, Jul 11, 2012 6:20:19am

re: #284 Killgore Trout

More tenuous claims about Romney’s Bain Capital record

Bogus scoring. It's not basketball, and the player's game tally doesn't stop when the whistle blows.

290 Bulworth  Wed, Jul 11, 2012 6:20:47am

Back to the Gold standard! End the Fed! US out of the UN!

291 darthstar  Wed, Jul 11, 2012 6:48:35am
292 iossarian  Wed, Jul 11, 2012 6:51:36am

re: #289 Decatur Deb

Bogus scoring. It's not basketball, and the player's game tally doesn't stop when the whistle blows.

Guy put penny stocks in his 401k and now they're worth $100M, tax-free.

But he wasn't involved with Bain at all! It was just a lucky break!

What a farce.

293 darthstar  Wed, Jul 11, 2012 6:53:31am

Well, it's a good thing none of the major media networks bought into that 83% of Doctors quitting bullshit...oh, wait.

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294 darthstar  Wed, Jul 11, 2012 6:58:37am
295 Gretchen G.Tiger  Wed, Jul 11, 2012 7:01:10am

re: #293 darthstar

Well, it's a good thing none of the major media networks bought into that 83% of Doctors quitting bullshit...oh, wait.

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It's still one of the best paying jobs out there --after a gazillion years of schooling and accompanying student loans . . .

83%?? really?

Oh wait, I forgot, FOX news Drones don't think.

296 Mattand  Wed, Jul 11, 2012 7:04:20am

re: #295 ggt

It's still one of the best paying jobs out there --after a gazillion years of schooling and accompanying student loans . . .

83%?? really?

Fox News is trying CPR this bullshit poll because they know the GOP is ultimately going to be hurt by the SCOTUS Obamacare ruling.

But then again, that's what a propaganda organization is supposed to do.

297 Eventual Carrion  Wed, Jul 11, 2012 7:04:35am

re: #36 goddamnedfrank

Maybe, if you're into sucking off old condescending pricks. Squirt Squirt.

He was making money somewhere, If he wants to maintain that is wasn't from Bain then he needs to come clean on where that money came from. Was he selling drugs or guns? Is he trying to launder money? Seems his least felonious admission is just to admit he was still working for and profiting from Bain.

298 Gretchen G.Tiger  Wed, Jul 11, 2012 7:05:52am

bbl

299 Mattand  Wed, Jul 11, 2012 7:09:32am

Way OT: a Facebook acquaintance made the claim that about 5000 Chevy Volts were returned to GM. I decided to needle him and see if he can produce the evidence to back up his claims.

Anyone hear of this before? There is a GM buy back plan for the Volt, but can't find any hard numbers. The closest I can find is a NPR report claiming a few dozen took up GM on the program.

I fully expect him to dodge the question and start complaining about other stuff involving the Volt. Should be interesting.

300 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jul 11, 2012 7:13:16am

re: #299 Mattand

Way OT: a Facebook acquaintance made the claim that about 5000 Chevy Volts were returned to GM. I decided to needle him and see if he can produce the evidence to back up his claims.

Anyone hear of this before? There is a GM buy back plan for the Volt, but can't find any hard numbers. The closest I can find is a NPR report claiming a few dozen took up GM on the program.

I fully expect him to dodge the question and start complaining about other stuff involving the Volt. Should be interesting.

Probably a reference to this: GM to call back 8,000 Chevy Volts

301 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jul 11, 2012 7:14:34am

There's a bogus MoveOn email making the rounds: MoveOn gets its facts wrong on Florida's voter purge

302 CuriousLurker  Wed, Jul 11, 2012 7:19:46am

re: #301 Killgore Trout

I have to get busy with work, but I wanted to drop this off for you first, heh:

303 HappyWarrior  Wed, Jul 11, 2012 7:24:43am

re: #293 darthstar

Well, it's a good thing none of the major media networks bought into that 83% of Doctors quitting bullshit...oh, wait.

Image: 181129_10150905694141167_1563875758_n.jpg

Fox News, we distort, you decide.

304 Decatur Deb  Wed, Jul 11, 2012 7:24:48am

re: #300 Killgore Trout

Probably a reference to this: GM to call back 8,000 Chevy Volts

Probably, but that's a recall for upgrade of a deficient part, not a buy-back. The art of email propaganda is to forward crap that is .08 true.

305 Mattand  Wed, Jul 11, 2012 7:25:21am

re: #300 Killgore Trout

Probably a reference to this: GM to call back 8,000 Chevy Volts

Appreciate it. I saw that earlier. This guy is specifically talking about a buyback.

Supposedly there was a GM commercial during the All-Star Game, in which they made some sort of customer satisfaction guarantee. If he meant "recall", he used very poor wording.

306 iossarian  Wed, Jul 11, 2012 7:26:04am

re: #305 Mattand

Appreciate it. I saw that earlier. This guy is specifically talking about a buyback.

Supposedly there was a GM commercial during the All-Star Game, in which they made some sort of customer satisfaction guarantee. If he meant "recall", he used very poor wording.

I wonder how politifact would have rated it.

307 Shropshire_Slasher  Wed, Jul 11, 2012 7:26:39am

Dammit, I am busier than a one legged man in an ass kicking contest.

308 HappyWarrior  Wed, Jul 11, 2012 7:26:53am

re: #286 ggt

Yeah, because a female's vagina is owned by the man in her life. First her father, who sells it to her husband.

didn't you know?

They had a segment on them on that Nat Geo show, Taboo on Sunday night. Real creepy stuff honestly especially with the fact that this purity stuff is for girls only. Yeah no gender double standards there.

309 lawhawk  Wed, Jul 11, 2012 7:27:09am

re: #299 Mattand

I'd call BS on that. That would amount to more than a 1/3 of all Volts sold thus far. It's far more likely that it's a distortion of the request that Volt owners check older Volts to see if they need to have the battery compartment strengthened - not necessary on the newer Volts since they've already had the modifications made at the factory.

There's been no buy-back program announced or expected, and it seems that most Volt owners are satisfied with their purchases.

310 Mattand  Wed, Jul 11, 2012 7:28:07am

re: #306 iossarian

I wonder how politifact would have rated it.

"We at Politifact found that almost no Volt owners took up GM on the offer. Therefore, we rate the story that nearly 5k Volts were returned as Mostly True."

311 Sheila Broflovski  Wed, Jul 11, 2012 7:28:21am

re: #308 HappyWarrior

They had a segment on them on that Nat Geo show, Taboo on Sunday night. Real creepy stuff honestly especially with the fact that this purity stuff is for girls only. Yeah no gender double standards there.

So then who are the guys supposed to be impure with? Each other? And yet these people are big homophobes, so go figure.

312 Decatur Deb  Wed, Jul 11, 2012 7:29:43am

re: #311 Learned Mother of Zion

So then who are the guys supposed to be impure with? Each other? And yet these people are big homophobes, so go figure.

There is an explanation from the golden age of the double standard: "The Theory of the High-Speed Whore".

313 Mattand  Wed, Jul 11, 2012 7:32:26am

re: #309 lawhawk

I'd call BS on that. That would amount to more than a 1/3 of all Volts sold thus far. It's far more likely that it's a distortion of the request that Volt owners check older Volts to see if they need to have the battery compartment strengthened - not necessary on the newer Volts since they've already had the modifications made at the factory.

There's been no buy-back program announced or expected, and it seems that most Volt owners are satisfied with their purchases.

GM did institute a buy back program around December, after the battery fire scare. There doesn't seem to be any info as to how may people actually took them up on the program.

You're right about the numbers. GM sold something like 7000 Volts last year; a 5K return would have been huge news.

I'm expecting this guy to start repeating Rush's spew about the Volt and avoid the question.

314 lawhawk  Wed, Jul 11, 2012 7:33:35am

BTW, expect this story to make the rounds today. Back in 2004, there was a murder of a Juilliard co-ed, Sarah Fox, that has gone unsolved. Now, the NYPD has announced that DNA taken from the crime scene is a match for DNA found on a chain used in an OWS-linked protest to lock open gates at a NYC subway station earlier this year.

Officials have linked forensic evidence from the 2004 murder scene of a 21-year-old Juilliard student to the scene of a recent Occupy Wall Street subway protest, NBC 4 New York has learned.

DNA evidence from the scene of Sarah Fox's murder in Inwood Hill Park eight years ago has been connected to DNA from a chain left in a subway station by Occupy protesters in March, NBC 4 New York first reported Tuesday.

Fox was found nude and strangled in the park in May 2004, days after she disappeared during a daytime jog. Investigators recovered her pink CD player in the woods just yards from her body.

Sources said Tuesday the DNA found on the CD player matches DNA found on a chain left by Occupy Wall Street protesters at the Beverly Road subway station in East Flatbush on March 28, 2012.

The link between the two crimes opens up any number of possibilities:
1) someone from OWS was involved in the murder (the option the anti-OWS will latch onto);
2) someone involved in making, transporting, or selling the chain (think manufacturer, someone working at a store where the items were bought, etc.) was the murderer; or
3) someone unrelated to OWS touched the chains after OWS chained open the gates and was involved in the murder.

Unless they capture the person, there's no way to know for sure, but it's an important break in the murder case.

315 Decatur Deb  Wed, Jul 11, 2012 7:33:40am

Bit of Austrailian advertiser genius via Gawker. Steve Martin fans will recognize the text from the supernatural weather billboard in LA Story.

[Link: gawker.com...]

316 HappyWarrior  Wed, Jul 11, 2012 7:40:03am

re: #311 Learned Mother of Zion

So then who are the guys supposed to be impure with? Each other? And yet these people are big homophobes, so go figure.

Heh good point. I have no idea really having not been brought up in an environment like that.

317 Mattand  Wed, Jul 11, 2012 7:40:59am

re: #312 Decatur Deb

There is an explanation from the golden age of the double standard: "The Theory of the High-Speed Whore".

I understand that Satan gave her a rocket pack fueled by the tears Baby Jesus cries when women embrace their sexuality and enjoy a good snog.

318 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jul 11, 2012 7:41:24am

re: #314 lawhawk

BTW, expect this story to make the rounds today. Back in 2004, there was a murder of a Juilliard co-ed, Sarah Fox, that has gone unsolved. Now, the NYPD has announced that DNA taken from the crime scene is a match for DNA found on a chain used in an OWS-linked protest to lock open gates at a NYC subway station earlier this year.

The link between the two crimes opens up any number of possibilities:
1) someone from OWS was involved in the murder (the option the anti-OWS will latch onto);
2) someone involved in making, transporting, or selling the chain (think manufacturer, someone working at a store where the items were bought, etc.) was the murderer; or
3) someone unrelated to OWS touched the chains after OWS chained open the gates and was involved in the murder.

Unless they capture the person, there's no way to know for sure, but it's an important break in the murder case.

Wow. That's a strange one. As I recall the dummies filmed themselves chaining open the gates so it should be easier to identify them.

319 iossarian  Wed, Jul 11, 2012 7:42:07am

re: #311 Learned Mother of Zion

So then who are the guys supposed to be impure with? Each other? And yet these people are big homophobes, so go figure.

Lower-status women, any resulting offspring of which will subsequently be repudiated.

320 Decatur Deb  Wed, Jul 11, 2012 7:51:09am

Off to mow between storms--BBL

321 Eventual Carrion  Wed, Jul 11, 2012 7:53:32am

re: #156 Kronocide

Prager is basically doing his wordy best to elaborate on the O'Reilly Dictum: You can't explain that.

Since science cannot explain this or that, ha! Gotcha! God.

Like a lighter to a neanderthal.

323 Sheila Broflovski  Wed, Jul 11, 2012 8:05:07am
324 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jul 11, 2012 8:06:33am

re: #323 Learned Mother of Zion

Latuff?

That was my first thought too. Nope, it was some Iranian guy.

325 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Wed, Jul 11, 2012 8:08:36am

I am taking bets on whether or not Rmoney begins singing "Who let the dogs out" at the NAACP, or, in an attempt to play up how much he loves "black music" a rousing rendition of Swing Low, Sweet Chariot, maybe even Jimmy Crack Corn...

326 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Wed, Jul 11, 2012 8:09:49am

and....it was worse:

I believe that if you understood who I truly am in my heart, and if it were possible to fully communicate what I believe is in the real, enduring best interest of African American families, you would vote for me for president.

327 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Wed, Jul 11, 2012 8:11:05am

now he derides "Obamacare" and got booed for it. Bet he gets kudos on the right for "telling it like it is" to those uneducated black folk.

328 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jul 11, 2012 8:14:39am

re: #325 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

I am taking bets on whether or not Rmoney begins singing "Who let the dogs out" at the NAACP, or, in an attempt to play up how much he loves "black music" a rousing rendition of Swing Low, Sweet Chariot, maybe even Jimmy Crack Corn...

I read some excerpts earlier. Seemed mostly about the economy and school choice programs.

329 iossarian  Wed, Jul 11, 2012 8:15:06am

re: #327 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

now he derides "Obamacare" and got booed for it. Bet he gets kudos on the right for "telling it like it is" to those uneducated black folk.

Seriously? He called it "Obamacare"? At the NAACP?

What a dick.

330 iossarian  Wed, Jul 11, 2012 8:16:47am

The reason black people don't vote for Romney is that they don't understand his insights into how they can truly be better off under Republicans.

Gotcha.

331 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jul 11, 2012 8:17:34am

Romney draws boos from NAACP when he dings Obama

But Romney was greeted with boos from attendees at the NAACP's annual meeting Wednesday in Houston when he pledged to repeal "Obamacare." That's the name Republicans have given the health care overhaul that was passed by Democrats and recently upheld by the U.S. Supreme Court.

Romney said he wouldn't be running for president if he didn't think he could do a better job than Obama, the nation's first black president.

But Romney is unlikely to win the black vote. Some 95 percent of black voters backed Obama in 2008.

Romney was heckled at another point in the speech when he criticized Obama.

332 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jul 11, 2012 8:19:36am

Romney Booed at NAACP For Claiming He'll Make THings Better For Blacks Than Obama Will


Not really booed. Laughed at.
333 HappyWarrior  Wed, Jul 11, 2012 8:19:36am

Does Mitt Romney ever not come across as a smug asshole? Honest question.

334 Sheila Broflovski  Wed, Jul 11, 2012 8:19:55am

re: #324 Killgore Trout

That was my first thought too. Nope, it was some Iranian guy.

I'll bet Latuff is pissed.

335 HappyWarrior  Wed, Jul 11, 2012 8:20:04am

re: #332 Killgore Trout

Romney Booed at NAACP For Claiming He'll Make THings Better For Blacks Than Obama Will

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Not really booed. Laughed at.

As he should be. I'd laugh at him if I were there too.

336 iossarian  Wed, Jul 11, 2012 8:20:29am

re: #333 HappyWarrior

Does Mitt Romney ever not come across as a smug asshole? Honest question.

Sometimes he comes across as an arrogant buffoon.

337 HappyWarrior  Wed, Jul 11, 2012 8:21:48am

re: #336 iossarian

Sometimes he comes across as an arrogant buffoon.

Heh touche.

338 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jul 11, 2012 8:21:51am

now this is booing
Mitt Romney Booed At NAACP Convention After Calling For End To Obamacare

It doesn't seem the crowd was objecting to the Obamacare term. The reaction would have probably been the same if he called it healthcare reform.

339 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jul 11, 2012 8:23:03am

re: #335 HappyWarrior

As he should be. I'd laugh at him if I were there too.

I think he took it well. I suspect he anticipated that reaction.

340 Sheila Broflovski  Wed, Jul 11, 2012 8:23:35am

@MexicanMitt Romney's live-tweeting Mitt's #NAACP speech.
[Link: twitter.com...]

341 iossarian  Wed, Jul 11, 2012 8:25:22am

re: #338 Killgore Trout

now this is booing
Mitt Romney Booed At NAACP Convention After Calling For End To Obamacare

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It doesn't seem the crowd was objecting to the Obamacare term. The reaction would have probably been the same if he called it healthcare reform.

I disagree. Yes he would have been booed, but to call it "Obamacare" in that context is particularly insensitive.

Sheesh. Does the guy have no respect for other people's feelings at all?

342 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Wed, Jul 11, 2012 8:28:06am

re: #341 iossarian

Feelings do not compute. I mean look at the video of his reaction to the booing. He looks like a roomba trying to figure out where to go next after hitting a wall.

343 HappyWarrior  Wed, Jul 11, 2012 8:28:58am

re: #339 Killgore Trout

I think he took it well. I suspect he anticipated that reaction.

Well anger hasn't ever been his problem. The truth though.....

344 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jul 11, 2012 8:29:22am

re: #341 iossarian

I disagree. Yes he would have been booed, but to call it "Obamacare" in that context is particularly insensitive.

Sheesh. Does the guy have no respect for other people's feelings at all?

I would have advised him to avoid the term but I don't think he was out of line. I don't think the crowd's reaction was out of line either. The problem with terms like Obamacare is they immediately broadcast a whole set of ideas and the speaker is immediately placed in an ideological box. It's unpersuasive and people who might otherwise be open to listening just tune out.

345 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jul 11, 2012 8:30:35am

re: #342 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

Feelings do not compute. I mean look at the video of his reaction to the booing. He looks like a roomba trying to figure out where to go next after hitting a wall.

My roomba heads straight into the bathroom and locks itself in. Does it every time.

346 wrenchwench  Wed, Jul 11, 2012 8:30:41am

re: #341 iossarian

I disagree. Yes he would have been booed, but to call it "Obamacare" in that context is particularly insensitive.

Sheesh. Does the guy have no respect for other people's feelings at all?

I thought the White House was embracing that name?

347 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Wed, Jul 11, 2012 8:31:48am
348 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Wed, Jul 11, 2012 8:32:43am

re: #345 Killgore Trout

My roomba heads straight into the bathroom and locks itself in. Does it every time.

I bet Romney wished he could do the same. I did read one horror story in which the family dog crapped on the floor and the roomba hit it and, well, it was a really shitty day at that house.

349 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jul 11, 2012 8:33:26am

re: #346 wrenchwench

I thought the White House was embracing that name?

I thought of that too but it's different. Kind of like when wingnuts embraced the tea bagger label. They still take offense when opponents call them tea baggers.

350 iossarian  Wed, Jul 11, 2012 8:35:31am

re: #346 wrenchwench

I thought the White House was embracing that name?

I don't know, maybe they are.

I just think that for Romney to stand up there and make a direct attack on Obama, not just calling out his signature achievement so far but to personalize it in that way, is extremely insensitive.

I don't know what the context of his speech was meant to be, but what is he trying to gain here? He had the choice between a) being a dick and b) trying to rise above politics and demonstrate that he can reach out to people who don't share his point of view.

The fact that he chose a) tells you a lot about the kind of politician he is.

351 darthstar  Wed, Jul 11, 2012 8:35:39am

Now we know why Mitt and the GOP don't want black people to vote in November...

[Link: mediacast.realgravity.com...]

352 GunstarGreen  Wed, Jul 11, 2012 8:37:56am

re: #344 Killgore Trout

I would have advised him to avoid the term but I don't think he was out of line. I don't think the crowd's reaction was out of line either. The problem with terms like Obamacare is they immediately broadcast a whole set of ideas and the speaker is immediately placed in an ideological box. It's unpersuasive and people who might otherwise be open to listening just tune out.

Has a lot to do with the fact that "Obamacare", like any other [politician name][legislation shorthand] portmanteau, is a term specifically designed to short-circuit any discussion of the topic. The legislation has an actual name (the Affordable Care Act), and even if the name is undesirable because of the various games legislators play with their legislation naming, it has a reference number for its documentation in the house/senate, all of which address it on its own merits as a piece of legislation. "Obamacare" may as well just be shortened to "Obama", because that's the point of calling it that -- to cause anyone that doesn't like Obama to immediately dismiss it because Obama is involved, without even considering the actual content of the legislation.

Anybody who uses such terminology is not to be listened to, because even before they have begun the discussion they have already been dishonest with the other party (or parties) in the discussion.

353 HappyWarrior  Wed, Jul 11, 2012 8:44:11am

Calling it "Obamacare" really doesn't offend me honestly but it does as KT pointed out make the person sound unpersuasive and partisan. Romney's problem is that he signed legislation very similar to what we know today as ACA. His other problem is that the USSC found ACA constitutional and that many parts of the bill are popular. It sends a funny message that ACA needs repealed yet at the same time hearing Romney say they want to keep a lot of it. It's almost as Mitt is arguing "Let's repeal this and re-implement much of it so I can have my name on it." The GOP may have won the short term battle on this, e.g. taking back the House in 2010 but they messed up when they hedged their bets on USSC finding it unconstitutional and making Romney their standard bearer.And even if the Republicans get the Senate and Romney becomes president. There's no reason to think the Dems won't fight the repeal as hard as the Republicans have fought for the repeal. Most Americans want to move on from this debate.

354 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Wed, Jul 11, 2012 9:00:25am

re: #312 Decatur Deb

There is an explanation from the golden age of the double standard: "The Theory of the High-Speed Whore".

The whole "Disposable Female" thing really chaps my hide.

Seriously.

A woman who can be used for sexual experiences, and then...what? She's just supposed to go away and die? What about her future, her dreams, her life?

If it's okay for a boy to experiment sexually, then it should be okay for girls, or not, in the reverse. Not okay for girls, not okay for boys.

355 Mattand  Wed, Jul 11, 2012 9:01:14am

re: #342 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

Feelings do not compute. I mean look at the video of his reaction to the booing. He looks like a roomba trying to figure out where to go next after hitting a wall.

I'm so reposting this later. Will give you full attirbution.

356 iossarian  Wed, Jul 11, 2012 9:02:28am

re: #354 Mostly sane, most of the time.

Some people are still stuck in the 10th century, with its feudal rights (and rites).

357 sattv4u2  Wed, Jul 11, 2012 9:10:26am

re: #346 wrenchwench

I thought the White House was embracing that name?

I hear the talking heads call it that daily, and I'm not talking about broadcasters, I'm talking about their guests on the shows both R and D

358 Decatur Deb  Wed, Jul 11, 2012 9:29:15am

re: #354 Mostly sane, most of the time.

The whole "Disposable Female" thing really chaps my hide.

Seriously.

A woman who can be used for sexual experiences, and then...what? She's just supposed to go away and die? What about her future, her dreams, her life?

If it's okay for a boy to experiment sexually, then it should be okay for girls, or not, in the reverse. Not okay for girls, not okay for boys.

You would have liked our nuns--they were single-standard all the way.

359 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Jul 11, 2012 9:29:51am

Good morning lizards!

360 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Wed, Jul 11, 2012 9:30:24am

re: #358 Decatur Deb

You would have liked our nuns--they were single-standard all the way.

Hmm. I would bet that at least in later years, those rulers had both metric and the English system on them. That's a double standard, right?

361 sattv4u2  Wed, Jul 11, 2012 9:32:03am

re: #360 Mostly sane, most of the time.

Hmm. I would bet that at least in later years, those rulers had both metric and the English system on them. That's a double standard, right?

I'll check my knuckles. I still have the impressions on them!

362 lawhawk  Wed, Jul 11, 2012 9:36:29am

I think this bears repeating:

Only in America could a Democratic president pass Mitt Romney’s health plan and fund it partly through John McCain’s best idea from the last campaign (taxing some employer provided plans) and be branded a “socialist.”

As they say, read it all.

363 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Jul 11, 2012 9:42:12am

A day in the life of a Comcast technician

Heh.

364 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jul 11, 2012 9:47:41am

‘Breivik’s mentors’ in European Parliament

Inside the room was a collection of anti-Islam extremists, including some referred to as ‘mentors’ of Anders Breivik, the mass killer currently on trial for 77 murders, including Ned May, founder of the ‘Gates Of Vienna’ website, cited by Breivik 86 times in his manifesto and Elisabeth Sabaditsch-Wolff who also received the approval of the Norwegian killer and was fined by an Austrian court in February for “denigration of religious beliefs of a legally recognized religion.”

One keynote speaker described how "The pansy left are auditioning to be the Muslim's prison bitch" and said the mainstream media represented "a threat to life and liberty."

The same speaker stated: "A society which becomes more Muslim becomes less everything else."

Also present was Stephen Yaxley-Lennon, who uses the name of a football hooligan Tommy Robinson as a pseudonym. Yaxley-Lennon, best known as leader of the English Defence League, was speaking as Deputy Leader of the British Freedom Party, whose leader couldn't make the gathering. The party is believed to have less than 200 paying members.

Another attendee keeps an updated webpage of the writings of Peder Jensen, better known as Fjordman, whose belief that Muslims were secretly planning to take over Europe inspired Breivik, who quoted him 111 times in his manifesto.

365 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Jul 11, 2012 9:47:57am

WOW...this is interesting...

DNA from Sarah Fox Murder Scene Linked to Chain Used in Occupy Wall Street Protest

Officials have linked forensic evidence from the 2004 murder scene of a 21-year-old Juilliard student to the scene of a recent Occupy Wall Street subway protest, NBC 4 New York has learned.

DNA evidence from the scene of Sarah Fox's murder in Inwood Hill Park eight years ago has been connected to DNA from a chain left in a subway station by Occupy protesters in March, NBC 4 New York first reported Tuesday.

Fox was found nude and strangled in the park in May 2004, days after she disappeared during a daytime jog. Investigators recovered her pink CD player in the woods just yards from her body.

Sources said Tuesday the DNA found on the CD player matches DNA found on a chain left by Occupy Wall Street protesters at the Beverly Road subway station in East Flatbush on March 28, 2012.

366 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Wed, Jul 11, 2012 9:49:58am

re: #365 NJDhockeyfan

Interesting, but will it lead to an arrest?

367 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jul 11, 2012 9:50:42am

Syria’s Ambassador to Iraq Reported to Defect

Syria's ambassador to Iraq was reported to have defected on Wednesday, which if confirmed would be the second prominent defection from President Bashar al-Assad's government in less than a week.

368 Kragar  Wed, Jul 11, 2012 10:06:44am
369 HappyWarrior  Wed, Jul 11, 2012 10:08:47am

re: #368 Kragar

Fischer: Gays are Driven by a 'Dark, Venomous, Demonic Hatred'

I see Mr. Fischer is talking about himself again whilst talking about gays.

370 lawhawk  Wed, Jul 11, 2012 10:09:39am

re: #366 Mostly sane, most of the time.

I discussed this above.

371 Lidane  Wed, Jul 11, 2012 10:21:15am

re: #368 Kragar

Fischer: Gays are Driven by a 'Dark, Venomous, Demonic Hatred'

Demons? LOL. They'd have to exist first before they could influence anyone.

Also, the only hate I see is coming from Fishcer and his ilk.

372 Kragar  Wed, Jul 11, 2012 10:27:33am

re: #371 Lidane

Demons? LOL. They'd have to exist first before they could influence anyone.

Also, the only hate I see is coming from Fishcer and his ilk.

FAERIES ANGELS ARE REAL!

373 Sheila Broflovski  Wed, Jul 11, 2012 10:33:47am

Speaking of Teh Derp

374 Lidane  Wed, Jul 11, 2012 10:34:41am

Speaking of religion:

Melinda Gates challenges Vatican by vowing to improve contraception

The billionaire philanthropist Melinda Gates, a practising Catholic, has thrown down the gauntlet to the Vatican and vowed to dedicate the rest of her life to improving access to contraception across the globe.

Gates, who with her husband, Bill, the founder of Microsoft, is one of the world's biggest players on development issues, predicted that women in Africa and Asia would soon be "voting with their feet", as women in the west have done, and would ignore the church's ban on artificial birth control.

Gates, who was a speaker at the London Summit on Family Planning organised by her foundation in conjunction with the UK government and the United Nations Population Fund (UNFPA), said that since she announced her new direction a few weeks ago she had been inundated with messages of support from Catholic women, including nuns.

"A church is made up of its members, and one of the things this campaign might do is help women speak out. I've had thousands of women come on to websites and say" 'I'm a Catholic, but I believe in contraception.' It's going to be women voting with their feet."

Gates said that in the west the bishops said one thing, but ordinary Catholics did another. "In my country 82% of Catholics say contraception is morally acceptable. So let the women in Africa decide. The choice is up to them."

375 Lidane  Wed, Jul 11, 2012 10:35:16am

re: #373 Learned Mother of Zion

How does she get through the day with that kind of withering ignorance?

376 Kragar  Wed, Jul 11, 2012 10:35:20am

re: #373 Learned Mother of Zion

Speaking of Teh Derp

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Waiting on CNN to hire reputable journalists.

377 wrenchwench  Wed, Jul 11, 2012 10:35:55am

re: #364 Killgore Trout

‘Breivik’s mentors’ in European Parliament

From GoV, an excerpt from Ned May's speech there:

[...]

I experienced a sense of déja vu during those ghastly few weeks after the massacre in Norway, but it was several months before I understood what had prompted it. Hunkering down and taking enemy fire simply for speaking out against the Islamization of Europe — when had that happened before?

The answer, of course, is that the sense of similarity was prompted by what occurred right here in this auditorium at the European Parliament almost five years ago. The participants in the 2007 conference had no idea that they were about to become victims of a carefully coordinated series of left-wing attacks prepared well in advance of the event.

Most of those who attended that year’s conference will remember the aftermath, when a series of slurs orchestrated by the then-popular blogger Charles Johnson caused so many of us to duck for cover. We were subjected to the same sort of mud-slinging that is even now aimed at us — we were “neo-Nazis”, “fascists”, “haters”, “racists”, “xenophobes”, and on and on and on. You all know the litany.

[...]

378 Mattand  Wed, Jul 11, 2012 10:37:04am

re: #374 Lidane

Speaking of religion:

Melinda Gates challenges Vatican by vowing to improve contraception

I spy with my litte eye an ex-communication hitting the Seattle metro area real soon.

Seriously, though, good for her.

379 HappyWarrior  Wed, Jul 11, 2012 10:37:22am

re: #377 wrenchwench

From GoV, an excerpt from Ned May's speech there:

Poor widdle fascist bastards can't catch a break. How dare Charles expose them for exactly what they are.

380 HappyWarrior  Wed, Jul 11, 2012 10:38:03am

re: #374 Lidane

Speaking of religion:

Melinda Gates challenges Vatican by vowing to improve contraception

Awesome. Good for her.

381 Lidane  Wed, Jul 11, 2012 10:38:11am

re: #378 Mattand

I spy with my litte eye an ex-communication hitting the Seattle metro area real soon.

Seriously, though, good for her.

Given the contraception use rate among Catholics in this country, the Vatican might as well just excommunicate damn near everyone.

382 Kragar  Wed, Jul 11, 2012 10:38:56am

re: #378 Mattand

I spy with my litte eye an ex-communication hitting the Seattle metro area real soon.

Seriously, though, good for her.

Microsoft excommunicating the Vatican would be much more fun and actually have a real world effect.

383 GunstarGreen  Wed, Jul 11, 2012 10:40:50am

re: #368 Kragar

Speaking of crazypants Fischer, did we ever find out what was so offensive about that Home Depot restroom sign?

384 Sheila Broflovski  Wed, Jul 11, 2012 10:41:40am
385 wrenchwench  Wed, Jul 11, 2012 10:43:29am

re: #379 HappyWarrior

Poor widdle fascist bastards can't catch a break. How dare Charles expose them for exactly what they are.

His Irrelevantness in action:

To state it plainly: we are being induced to turn upon one another and denounce our colleagues in the vain hope of escaping the label of “racist” or “fascist”.

This sort of fratricidal conflict occurred after the attacks by Charles Johnson in the wake of the 2007 conference, and it occurred to an even greater extent after Breivik. To preserve their reputations or careers, Islam-critics were pressured to repudiate other Islam-critics on whom the label “fascist” had stuck. Prominent writers felt it necessary to “distance themselves” from Breivik — even though the murderous psychopath had nothing whatsoever to do with them or what they stood for.

This is how the enemy aims to conquer us — by dividing us one from another. By making us take stands against each other instead of against the oppressive ideology that plans to destroy us. By making us fearful and avoidant of those who should be our closest friends and allies.

386 HappyWarrior  Wed, Jul 11, 2012 10:45:27am

re: #384 Learned Mother of Zion

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But he;s not racist but rather the most clever satirist this country has ever had. Seriously if Republicans want to know why minority voters don't like or trust them, then maybe they should stop kissing this prick's fat racist ass.

387 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Jul 11, 2012 10:46:02am

Are you shitting me?

GOP unnerved by Democrats' candid camera techniques

Politicians recognize they give up a degree of privacy when they run for office.

But Democrats are testing the outer limits of that understanding with a practice that raises questions about when campaign tracking becomes something more like stalking.

While most serious campaigns on both sides use campaign trackers — staffers whose job is to record on video every public appearance and statement by an opponent — House Democrats are taking it to another level. They’re now recording video of the homes of GOP congressmen and candidates and posting the raw footage on the Internet for all to see.

That ratcheting up of the video surveillance game is unnerving Republicans who insist that even by political standards, it’s a gross invasion of privacy. Worse, they say, it creates a safety risk for members of Congress and their families at a time when they are already on edge after a deranged gunman shot former Arizona Democratic Rep. Gabrielle Giffords 18 months ago.

Wisconsin GOP Rep. Reid Ribble, who said he’s also been followed by a cameraman when shopping for groceries, said the home videos cross a line.

“I feel it’s totally inappropriate,” said Ribble, a freshman facing a competitive race for reelection. “It was disturbing to me that they would put that online. I don’t understand any political benefit that can be achieved with that.”

In Ribble’s case, a clip of his northeastern Wisconsin home appeared online June 18. The soundless video — which lasts 38 seconds — is taken from a car sitting just outside the house. The shot pans across the large home, showing it from several different angles.

DeaNa Ribble, the congressman’s wife, said it is deeply unsettling.

“I’m more creeped out about this than Reid is, just because I’m home more,” she said. “If they so much as put a foot on private property, I will be the first person to call the police.”

Republicans whose homes have been videotaped say they understand that politics is a contact sport and that every public utterance they make is fair game. But, they argue, filming a home — and posting actual addresses — ought to be off-limits, if only out of respect for their families and neighbors.

This is dangerous and uncalled for. Fucking assholes.

388 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jul 11, 2012 10:46:18am

re: #377 wrenchwench

From GoV, an excerpt from Ned May's speech there:

At first I was skeptical that it was the same event. It was indeed held at the EU Parliment. Here's the schedule of events PDF

389 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jul 11, 2012 10:47:05am

re: #388 Killgore Trout

At first I was skeptical that it was the same event. It was indeed held at the EU Parliment. Here's the schedule of events PDF

No sign of Spencer or Geller.

390 Lidane  Wed, Jul 11, 2012 10:47:40am

re: #387 NJDhockeyfan

Better to post raw video than O'Keefe/Breitbart style edited hatchet jobs.

391 lawhawk  Wed, Jul 11, 2012 10:48:18am

Pro Palestinian group is running ads on Metro North train stops that show maps of Israel but none of the context. Jewish groups have outright called the ads anti-Semitic or refused to comment because they're so inflammatory. The pro-Palestinian group says that if the "facts" are inflammatory, then they are.

The maps show a pre 1948 Palestine; the 1948 Green Line, 1967, and their take on Palestinian controlled territories.

Problems with the maps are not insignificant.

Palestinians and Arabs refused to accept a partition plan, and therefore sought to destroy Israel. Israel managed to hold on to its portions of the partition plan territories and then some - Jordan and Egypt captured the rest (no mention of that in the map).

No mention that Israel was again threatened with imminent destruction in 1967, when it captured Gaza/Sinai/West Bank from Egypt and Jordan.

No mention again that under the Oslo Agreements, Israel would negotiate future borders with Palestinians in exchange for recognition of Israel, its right to exist, right to be a Jewish homeland. That meant that not everything that is rendered in the map of Palestine was Palestinian (and that further ignores that there were many a Palestinian Jew who lived in the region in pre-1948 (recall pogrom in 1928 in Hebron among others and longstanding Jewish settlements throughout the region that date back hundreds and thousands of years).

Further note that Palestinians have repeatedly refused to offer up any kind of counter proposal to any of the deals put on the table by Israel - either with Arafat or Abbas. Their reaction to Israel's offers have ranged from indifference to outright hostilities (intifada 2).

No mention that the Palestinian refugee population is categorized in a way that no other refugee population has ever been treated by the UN - allowing a refugee population to grow in perpetuity and not confined to any specific class (or where the Arab countries in which the Palestinian refugees settled have refused to allow those refugees to become citizens of those countries - they are stateless and utilized as propaganda for their regimes' purposes).

392 Aye Pod  Wed, Jul 11, 2012 10:49:34am

re: #131 Gus

The Higgs boson has nothing to do with God. One can believe or not believe yet have an interest in the science whether as an amateur or physicist. It is also not meant to prove or disprove the existence of God. Yet at the same time people can see it is either. The important thing here isn't how we translate this science into laymans terms but the hard science it brings and the doors it will open to the physical universe. I find it very arrogant of Prager to make the superficial claim that this represents "life without meaning."

The fact that life, including all our thoughts, ideas, emotions, loves and dreams arises naturally within a purely physical universe that itself arises naturally from nothing confers upon these things a kind of robustness that no miracle-creating God could ever hope to bestow.

But for some reason we still have to listen to idiots like Prager droning on about how everything is meaningless unless there's a cosmic David Copperfield at the centre of it all (don't ask where he came from). And he thinks atheists are he ones with the superficial view.

393 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Jul 11, 2012 10:51:26am

re: #390 Lidane

Better to post raw video than O'Keefe/Breitbart style edited hatchet jobs.

Better to do neither. Someone could be seriously harmed or worse from this.

394 wrenchwench  Wed, Jul 11, 2012 10:51:57am

re: #389 Killgore Trout

No sign of Spencer or Geller.

But Mark Steyn was there. Looks like they used the facilities of the European Parliament, and try to pass that off as speaking to the Parliament. The controversy in your original link is that using the facilities is bad enough.

395 GunstarGreen  Wed, Jul 11, 2012 10:52:20am

re: #387 NJDhockeyfan

Are you shitting me?

GOP unnerved by Democrats' candid camera techniques

This is dangerous and uncalled for. Fucking assholes.

Congress likes to vote themselves the power to spy on my home with no warrant or legal precedent, let's see how they like the same.

Maybe it'll get them to reconsider their legislative decisions.

396 wrenchwench  Wed, Jul 11, 2012 10:53:45am

re: #389 Killgore Trout

No sign of Spencer or Geller.

And Takuan Seiyo is commenting at GoV.

397 Gus  Wed, Jul 11, 2012 10:55:33am

re: #394 wrenchwench

But Mark Steyn was there. Looks like they used the facilities of the European Parliament, and try to pass that off as speaking to the Parliament. The controversy in your original link is that using the facilities is bad enough.

But I thought Mark Steyn was a moderate?

//

398 William Barnett-Lewis  Wed, Jul 11, 2012 10:56:25am

re: #378 Mattand

I spy with my litte eye an ex-communication hitting the Seattle metro area real soon.

Seriously, though, good for her.

If the do, they'd be welcome in the Episcopal Church. We've got a few "entertainments" of our own but at least no Rome. And hey, we're making progress:

[Link: www.npr.org...]

We should just say marriage is a lifelong commitment between two baptized adults and be done with it, but this is at least progress.

399 Decatur Deb  Wed, Jul 11, 2012 10:56:39am

re: #393 NJDhockeyfan

Better to do neither. Someone could be seriously harmed or worse from this.

Anyone who wants to know who owns your, my, or our congressperson's house has only to contact the courthouse. It's public record.

400 Gus  Wed, Jul 11, 2012 10:59:07am

OMG! OMG! OMG! OMG! OMG! OMG!

401 wrenchwench  Wed, Jul 11, 2012 10:59:57am

re: #397 Gus

But I thought Mark Steyn was a moderate?

//

He subs for Rush, so he's mainstream. But "mainstream" no longer means 'moderate' by any means.

402 Eventual Carrion  Wed, Jul 11, 2012 11:17:16am

re: #393 NJDhockeyfan

Better to do neither. Someone could be seriously harmed or worse from this.

From a camera?

403 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Jul 11, 2012 11:18:29am

re: #399 Decatur Deb

Anyone who wants to know who owns your, my, or our congressperson's house has only to contact the courthouse. It's public record.

If someone who's address and house is now on YouTube gets attacked at their home by some nut in the near future I doubt it will be because the nut went to the courthouse to look up their address.

404 Decatur Deb  Wed, Jul 11, 2012 11:20:51am

re: #403 NJDhockeyfan

If someone who's address and house is now on YouTube gets attacked at their home by some nut in the near future I doubt it will be because the nut went to the courthouse to look up their address.

The last nut who tried to gun down a congresswoman did it at a shopping center, and she was a Democrat.

405 Eventual Carrion  Wed, Jul 11, 2012 11:22:51am

re: #403 NJDhockeyfan

If someone who's address and house is now on YouTube gets attacked at their home by some nut in the near future I doubt it will be because the nut went to the courthouse to look up their address.

True, usually it is a nut job like Michelle Malkin that gives the name, address, phone number and such of kids she disagrees with.

406 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Jul 11, 2012 11:23:57am

re: #404 Decatur Deb

The last nut who tried to gun down a congresswoman did it at a shopping center, and she was a Democrat.

I know. Posting videos of other members of Congress' houses and addresses isn't very smart seeing that crazy people may take advantage of that.

407 gwangung  Wed, Jul 11, 2012 11:26:49am

re: #406 NJDhockeyfan

I know. Posting videos of other members of Congress' houses and addresses isn't very smart seeing that crazy people may take advantage of that.

A) There may be other ways to handle this; and

B) Publically available information. What part of that don't you understand?

408 iossarian  Wed, Jul 11, 2012 11:26:53am

re: #406 NJDhockeyfan

I know. Posting videos of other members of Congress' houses and addresses isn't very smart seeing that crazy people may take advantage of that.

Well, the GOP loves to make it super-easy for anyone to buy a gun, something that "crazy people may take advantage of". But somehow that's just freedom'n'stuff.

Whereas revealing that Republican politicians live in massive fuck-off mansions and are never around in the districts they supposedly call "home" is EVIL AND WRONG.

409 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Jul 11, 2012 11:36:45am

re: #407 gwangung

re: #408 iossarian

I bet you guys would feel the same way if some wingnut did the same thing with videos of some Democrat's massive fuck-off mansions.

//

410 iossarian  Wed, Jul 11, 2012 11:40:18am

re: #409 NJDhockeyfan

re: #408 iossarian

I bet you guys would feel the same way if some wingnut did the same thing with videos of some Democrat's massive fuck-off mansions.

//

Since Republicans actually have a track record of violent assault in the past few years, that would be more of a concern.

But to be honest, I'm really just laughing at your obvious inconsistency and desperate need to throw mud at Democrats to make yourself feel better about the shit shower you're preparing to vote for in the fall.

411 gwangung  Wed, Jul 11, 2012 11:56:48am

re: #409 NJDhockeyfan

re: #408 iossarian

I bet you guys would feel the same way if some wingnut did the same thing with videos of some Democrat's massive fuck-off mansions.

//

Short memory, or IOKIYAR?

Multiple instances of actual violence occurring in the past.

412 NJDhockeyfan  Wed, Jul 11, 2012 12:13:10pm

re: #410 iossarian

Since Republicans actually have a track record of violent assault in the past few years, that would be more of a concern.

Like this?

"I’m proud to be here with people who understand that it’s more than just sending an email to get you going. Every once and awhile you need to get out on the streets and get a little bloody when necessary".
~ Rep. Mike Capuano (D-Ma.)

or this?

"Yeah, Im glad the president passed health care. Yeah. Funky ass, racist-ass Republicans hate that, dont you? Jean Schmitt, when you got hit by that car, you shouldve broke your back, bitch. And Boehner, motherfuckerthat Mitch McConnell. All you racist fucking Republicans. Why dont you just change your party name to racist? Cuz if one of those fucking Tea baggers had spit on me, Id have shot all them in the fucking face with my fucking 9 millimeter. Fuck all you racist motherfuckers."
~message left on Rep. Jean Schmidt's (R-Ohio)voicemail

or maybe this?

A horde of masked figures stormed the restaurant in a single-file line, wielding bats, claw hammers and metal batons — their presence announced when one shouted, “‘Hey, bitches, the ARA is going to f--- up this place.’ ”

With that, the shrouded thugs went on a rampage, clubbing diners at The Ashford House restaurant on May 19 in Tinley Park. They did not discriminate as to the targets of their violence, even pushing an 80-year-old woman to the ground, according to an eyewitness who’s a former Chicago police officer.

“Although the terrorist assault lasted only about a minute, it was the longest minute of my life,” the eyewitness said.

I see what you mean.
//

413 palomino  Wed, Jul 11, 2012 4:15:30pm

re: #412 NJDhockeyfan

Like this?

or this?

or maybe this?

I see what you mean.
//

You seem intellectually incapable of dealing with the substance of others' comments. You do nothing more than cut and paste, lacking even the originality or thought of the typical "your side does it too" knee-jerk reactionary. In short, as a commenter, you're useless.

414 Kronocide  Wed, Jul 11, 2012 5:11:56pm

Balance Fairy idiocy.


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