Romney Campaign Releases Video Titled “Mitt Doesn’t Disdain the Poor,” Then Deletes It
So, this happened.
Tonight the Romney campaign released a video featuring Ann Romney, titled “Mitt Doesn’t Disdain the Poor.”
Then they deleted it.
So, this happened.
Tonight the Romney campaign released a video featuring Ann Romney, titled “Mitt Doesn’t Disdain the Poor.”
Then they deleted it.
4 | Kragar Tue, Sep 18, 2012 7:54:22pm |
5 | HappyWarrior Tue, Sep 18, 2012 7:55:00pm |
8 | Lidane Tue, Sep 18, 2012 7:56:06pm |
re: #2 HappyWarrior
Oh to be a fly on the wall.
Screw that. I want an invisibility cloak. You know that they're using Mitt's money for really expensive whiskey to wash down the heartburn medication.
I'd snag a few bottles on my way out the door. Heh.
10 | HappyWarrior Tue, Sep 18, 2012 7:56:48pm |
re: #8 Lidane
Screw that. I want an invisibility cloak. You know that they're using Mitt's money for really expensive whiskey to wash down the heartburn medication.
I'd snag a few bottles on my way out the door. Heh.
You're right. They probably got the really good Jameson that I can't afford.
11 | jaunte Tue, Sep 18, 2012 7:56:59pm |
How many junior campaign staffers have purchased better, smaller recording equipment this week?
12 | Kragar Tue, Sep 18, 2012 7:57:14pm |
What Mitt really needs is the right theme music to get his campaign to get back on track...
13 | makeitstop Tue, Sep 18, 2012 7:58:25pm |
They probably thought it would be a good idea, then the condescending Ann got in front of the camera.
Neither one of them have the vaguest idea of how to communicate without coming off as complete assholes.
16 | DisturbedEma Tue, Sep 18, 2012 8:00:54pm |
Clearly I am still bitter because one of my first thoughts was "oh, more tuna laments. . ."
17 | HappyWarrior Tue, Sep 18, 2012 8:02:02pm |
re: #13 makeitstop
They probably thought it would be a good idea, then the condescending Ann got in front of the camera.
Neither one of them have the vaguest idea of how to communicate without coming off as complete assholes.
She actually has that rare ability to make her husband look worse. "You people."
18 | Varek Raith Tue, Sep 18, 2012 8:02:17pm |
I'm Mitt Romney and I have no clue what the fuck I'm doing.
19 | Gus Tue, Sep 18, 2012 8:02:39pm |
A sneak preview of the President's visit to the @late_show, airing tonight at 11:35pm ET: OFA.BO/eMAzEJ— Barack Obama (@BarackObama) September 19, 2012
21 | Mocking Jay Tue, Sep 18, 2012 8:02:54pm |
re: #16 DisturbedEma
Clearly I am still bitter because one of my first thoughts was "oh, more tuna laments. . ."
Does being rich mean you no longer want to eat pasta or tuna fish?
22 | Mich-again Tue, Sep 18, 2012 8:02:58pm |
I watched the interview with Ann Romney. She is lying through her chicklets. I just lost all the respect I had for her.
Mitt was clearly bemoaning that he had no chance at getting the vote from those 47%. There was no hint that he was concerned about their future prospects. She is much more comfortable lying than Mitt.
23 | DisturbedEma Tue, Sep 18, 2012 8:03:10pm |
re: #17 HappyWarrior
Indeed, it IS surreal, he messes up, she is supposed to be some sort of clean up and she winds up making it worse, fire, meet gasoline. . .
24 | Kragar Tue, Sep 18, 2012 8:03:38pm |
re: #18 Varek Raith
I'm Mitt Romney and I have no clue what the fuck I'm doing.
I'm Mitt Romney and I'll bet you $10,000 I can make myself look even worse by the weekend.
26 | SpaceJesus Tue, Sep 18, 2012 8:04:15pm |
Ann is just deadpan throughout the whole thing, she hates this
27 | Mocking Jay Tue, Sep 18, 2012 8:04:51pm |
Or as the Romney camp refers to it, distraction.
Hottest ever water temps off East Coast all the way to bottom of ocean:mojo.ly/S3g02a @noaafishmedia
— Mother Jones (@MotherJones) September 19, 2012
28 | DisturbedEma Tue, Sep 18, 2012 8:05:01pm |
re: #21 Mocking Jay
No, I am STILL pissed about her story of her and Mitt's hard times, in which they had to eat tuna. Not they had no food, or had to make the tuna feed 8 people, just the fact that it was tuna. Irrational, I know but it just made me mad
29 | Varek Raith Tue, Sep 18, 2012 8:05:40pm |
re: #27 Mocking Jay
Or as the Romney camp refers to it, distraction.
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Gorebull warming!
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30 | JamesWI Tue, Sep 18, 2012 8:06:03pm |
re: #25 Gus
That's just the interview.
The interview was apparently the video they posted. The interview itself didn't really have anything noteworthy, but the fact that they actually titled the video "Mitt doesn't Disdain the Poor" is.
31 | HappyWarrior Tue, Sep 18, 2012 8:06:04pm |
re: #23 DisturbedEma
Indeed, it IS surreal, he messes up, she is supposed to be some sort of clean up and she winds up making it worse, fire, meet gasoline. . .
Really, I thought having never seen her speak that she could make Mitt look better but no she makes things worse because she's as patronizing as he is.
32 | Kragar Tue, Sep 18, 2012 8:06:15pm |
re: #27 Mocking Jay
Or as the Romney camp refers to it, distraction.
[Embedded content]
I welcome our new Canadian Fish Merchant overlords.
34 | DisturbedEma Tue, Sep 18, 2012 8:06:42pm |
re: #28 DisturbedEma
It reminded me of his "hey I'm unemployed too" crap
35 | elisabeth Tue, Sep 18, 2012 8:06:45pm |
re: #25 Gus
Oh, I thought they were the same thing. Too busy watching POTUS. :)
36 | Gus Tue, Sep 18, 2012 8:07:04pm |
re: #30 JamesWI
The interview was apparently the video they posted. The interview itself didn't really have anything noteworthy, but the fact that they actually titled the video "Mitt doesn't Disdain the Poor" is.
Now I'm cornfused.
38 | HappyWarrior Tue, Sep 18, 2012 8:07:20pm |
re: #34 DisturbedEma
It reminded me of his "hey I'm unemployed too" crap
That was his dumbest one ever. Yeah he's unemployed because he's been running for the same job since 2007 non stop pretty much.
39 | Varek Raith Tue, Sep 18, 2012 8:08:19pm |
40 | Kragar Tue, Sep 18, 2012 8:08:48pm |
re: #28 DisturbedEma
No, I am STILL pissed about her story of her and Mitt's hard times, in which they had to eat tuna. Not they had no food, or had to make the tuna feed 8 people, just the fact that it was tuna. Irrational, I know but it just made me mad
Hey! You call this slop? Real slop has got chunks in it! This is more like gruel! And this Château le Blanc '68 is supposed to be served slightly chilled! This is room temperature! What do you think we are, animals?
41 | b_sharp Tue, Sep 18, 2012 8:09:13pm |
It's the socialist lefty commie lefty MSMs fault because they published what Romney said instead of what Romney wants us to believe he meant to have said.
42 | The Ghost of a Flea Tue, Sep 18, 2012 8:10:28pm |
re: #41 Illustrated Inhibitions
It's the socialist lefty commie lefty MSMs fault because they published what Romney said instead of what Romney wants us to believe he meant to have said.
...retroactively.
43 | HappyWarrior Tue, Sep 18, 2012 8:10:32pm |
re: #41 Illustrated Inhibitions
It's the socialist lefty commie lefty MSMs fault because they published what Romney said instead of what Romney wants us to believe he meant to have said.
I think I remember seeing a quote by an athlete who complained that the reporters write what I say but not what I mean. This is Mitt's predicament heh.
44 | DisturbedEma Tue, Sep 18, 2012 8:10:55pm |
re: #39 Varek Raith
It buuuurns. . it freezes. . .holy shitballs what a jackwagon!
45 | b_sharp Tue, Sep 18, 2012 8:11:08pm |
re: #17 HappyWarrior
She actually has that rare ability to make her husband look worse. "You people."
She didn't actually say 'you people'.
46 | HappyWarrior Tue, Sep 18, 2012 8:12:22pm |
re: #45 Illustrated Inhibitions
She didn't actually say 'you people'.
Didn't she say that when asked about their taxes? I used the "you people" to mock that.
47 | JamesWI Tue, Sep 18, 2012 8:12:44pm |
re: #36 Gus
Now I'm cornfused.
The Romney campaign posted a video of that interview. They titled the video of the interview "Ann to FOX31: Mitt Doesn't Disdain the Poor." Someone finally realized that the title of the video is horrible and they took it down.
So I'm pretty sure the interview video that BuzzFeed has is the same thing, just that it's not from Romney's Youtube page.
In the interview, she doesn't actually say those words. The news guy asks something like "So it's not like Mitt disdains the poor, the elderly, etc." and Ann responds with something like "Oh no, of course not!"
So again, the content of the video itself had nothing objectionable (besides a bunch of spin and lying, of course). The real issue is the fact that Romney's campaign people were incompetent enough to post the video with that title.
48 | MikeTheModerateDemocrat Tue, Sep 18, 2012 8:12:46pm |
re: #38 HappyWarrior
That was his dumbest one ever. Yeah he's unemployed because he's been running for the same job since 2007 non stop pretty much.
Try 1994...
49 | DisturbedEma Tue, Sep 18, 2012 8:12:49pm |
re: #40 Kragar
AMEN- you must be living in my state of mind because I mentally imagined similar snide remarks from her about wine in my head. . .this hasn't been BREATHING long enough for me to drink :)
50 | Varek Raith Tue, Sep 18, 2012 8:12:49pm |
re: #45 Illustrated Inhibitions
She didn't actually say 'you people'.
What she said was, "ph'nglui mglw'nafh Cthulhu R'lyeh wgah'nagl fhtagn"
51 | Charles Johnson Tue, Sep 18, 2012 8:12:52pm |
re: #45 Illustrated Inhibitions
She didn't actually say 'you people'.
Yep, she sure did. Talking about Mitt's financial info - "we've given all you people need to know."
53 | HappyWarrior Tue, Sep 18, 2012 8:14:15pm |
re: #51 Charles Johnson
Yep, she sure did. Talking about Mitt's financial info - "we've given you people all you need to know."
Yeah that's what I was mocking when I used those words. I think she also used it in talking about the Puerto Ricans at the RNC.
54 | William Barnett-Lewis Tue, Sep 18, 2012 8:15:28pm |
re: #28 DisturbedEma
No, I am STILL pissed about her story of her and Mitt's hard times, in which they had to eat tuna. Not they had no food, or had to make the tuna feed 8 people, just the fact that it was tuna. Irrational, I know but it just made me mad
Hey, feed the house on a box of mac & cheese stretched with a can of tuna and some frozen peas. Been there, done that, know they never fucking did.
55 | DisturbedEma Tue, Sep 18, 2012 8:15:29pm |
re: #47 JamesWI
Ah, ok, so we can file this under mislabeled misfire? Trying to keep the files neat, which is hard as there is so much. . .
56 | b_sharp Tue, Sep 18, 2012 8:15:38pm |
re: #46 HappyWarrior
Didn't she say that when asked about their taxes? I used the "you people" to mock that.
I listened to the interview but didn't hear her say 'you'. I think people just ran with it without listening to the interview.
57 | HappyWarrior Tue, Sep 18, 2012 8:15:40pm |
58 | HappyWarrior Tue, Sep 18, 2012 8:16:31pm |
re: #56 Illustrated Inhibitions
I listened to the interview but didn't hear her say 'you'. I think people just ran with it without listening to the interview.
Politico disagrees
“We’ve given all you people need to know and understand about our financial situation and how we live our life,"
60 | DisturbedEma Tue, Sep 18, 2012 8:16:47pm |
re: #54 William Barnett-Lewis
Me too! Last year I got laid off and my husband got his hours cut and we have um, several kids, and Ramen also can be used with add ins and go far just saying:)
61 | jaunte Tue, Sep 18, 2012 8:16:48pm |
A Mood of Gloom Afflicts the Romney Campaign
Grim-faced aides acknowledged that it was an unusually dark moment, made worse by the self-inflicted, seemingly avoidable nature of the wound. In low-volume, out-of-the-way conversations, a few of them are now wondering whether victory is still possible and whether they are entering McCain-Palin ticket territory.
62 | HappyWarrior Tue, Sep 18, 2012 8:18:29pm |
re: #61 jaunte
I can't believe they seriously think they have something with the 1998 Obama clip. At the same time though, they want Mitt's business record to be completely off limits outside their praising of it of course.. They're idiots. Really.
63 | Gus Tue, Sep 18, 2012 8:19:02pm |
re: #47 JamesWI
The Romney campaign posted a video of that interview. They titled the video of the interview "Ann to FOX31: Mitt Doesn't Disdain the Poor." Someone finally realized that the title of the video is horrible and they took it down.
So I'm pretty sure the interview video that BuzzFeed has is the same thing, just that it's not from Romney's Youtube page.
In the interview, she doesn't actually say those words. The news guy asks something like "So it's not like Mitt disdains the poor, the elderly, etc." and Ann responds with something like "Oh no, of course not!"
So again, the content of the video itself had nothing objectionable (besides a bunch of spin and lying, of course). The real issue is the fact that Romney's campaign people were incompetent enough to post the video with that title.
Ah, OK. I see the problem! I thought I was looking for an ad and not an interview. Woops.
64 | makeitstop Tue, Sep 18, 2012 8:19:55pm |
re: #61 jaunte
A Mood of Gloom Afflicts the Romney Campaign
In low-volume, out-of-the-way conversations, a few of them are now wondering whether victory is still possible and whether they are entering McCain-Palin ticket territory.
This makes me happy. Arrogant conservative tears, how I enjoy thee.
65 | Kragar Tue, Sep 18, 2012 8:20:51pm |
re: #62 HappyWarrior
I can't believe they seriously think they have something with the 1998 Obama clip. At the same time though, they want Mitt's business record to be completely off limits. They're idiots. Really.
I like how the campaign that says Mitt's entire business record from the 90s is "off the table" wants to make a big deal about 1 speech of Obama's from back then.
66 | elisabeth Tue, Sep 18, 2012 8:20:53pm |
re: #62 HappyWarrior
Hell, we're not allowed to see Mitt's tax returns from 2008! And Mitt was pro-choice in 1998 so I'm sure sure the campaign wants to go there.
67 | jaunte Tue, Sep 18, 2012 8:20:57pm |
re: #62 HappyWarrior
Still, a flustered adviser, describing the mood, said that the campaign was turning into a vulgar, unprintable phrase.
"Hey, this campaign's turned into a vulgar, unprintable phrase.
Please don't quote me."
68 | b_sharp Tue, Sep 18, 2012 8:21:32pm |
I stand corrected. I listened to it again and I did hear the 'you people'.
My apologies.
69 | Kragar Tue, Sep 18, 2012 8:21:38pm |
re: #64 makeitstop
This makes me happy. Arrogant conservative tears, how I enjoy thee.
70 | makeitstop Tue, Sep 18, 2012 8:21:54pm |
re: #67 jaunte
"Hey, this campaign's turned into a vulgar, unprintable phrase.
Please don't quote me."
My money's on 'clusterfuck.'
71 | Targetpractice Tue, Sep 18, 2012 8:22:01pm |
re: #61 jaunte
And yet, if you listen to the wingnuts, they're already planning parties for Election Day. They're totally convinced they've got it in the bag, because they see it as impossible for Obama to win reelection.
72 | HappyWarrior Tue, Sep 18, 2012 8:22:16pm |
re: #65 Kragar
I like how the campaign that says Mitt's entire business record from the 90s is "off the table" wants to make a big deal about 1 speech of Obama's from back then.
I know, right? But this is the campaign that had no problem twisting Obama's words and defended it because "it works".
73 | DisturbedEma Tue, Sep 18, 2012 8:22:21pm |
re: #59 goddamnedfrank
Dafuq? "Corrective measures?" Women suffering under Obama? Women falling into poverty x2- I hear it one more time I'm gonna take a shot. . .just saying. . .
75 | Mocking Jay Tue, Sep 18, 2012 8:22:25pm |
A genuinely interesting story, full of shit I did not know.
What's Behind the EPA's New 4-Gallon Minimum Purchase Mandate? mojo.ly/RqwYI3
— Mother Jones (@MotherJones) September 19, 2012
76 | William Barnett-Lewis Tue, Sep 18, 2012 8:22:52pm |
re: #60 DisturbedEma
Me too! Last year I got laid off and my husband got his hours cut and we have um, several kids, and Ramen also can be used with add ins and go far just saying:)
50 lb bag of rice is really cheap & can be stretched further than anything else on this freaking planet. Navy or kidney beans for protein. Soup bones are a god send. If you want meat, you'd better know how to hunt.
Yeah, my grandmother's lessons from the Great Depression have helped me more than once.
78 | DisturbedEma Tue, Sep 18, 2012 8:23:32pm |
re: #76 William Barnett-Lewis
Yep- we made it through and yep we got better. . .
79 | HappyWarrior Tue, Sep 18, 2012 8:24:16pm |
re: #66 elisabeth
Hell, we're not allowed to see Mitt's tax returns from 2008! And Mitt was pro-choice in 1998 so I'm sure sure the campaign wants to go there.
Shit let's look at then candidate for Senate in 1994 Mitt Romney claiming he would never waver from his pro choice position and trying to position himself to the left on gay rights than Ted Kennedy. Really, this is such a pathetically run campaign.If Mitt didn't have wealthy friends and connections. He wouldn't have gotten out of the primary.
80 | Kragar Tue, Sep 18, 2012 8:26:17pm |
And somewhere, McCain is enjoying a Scotch and saying "Pick Romney instead of Palin? Right. Who's laughing now, you bastards?"
81 | makeitstop Tue, Sep 18, 2012 8:28:33pm |
Aides inside Mr. Romney’s Boston headquarters began highlighting a video of their own: a 1998 clip showing Barack Obama, then a state senator, saying that he wanted the government to facilitate the distribution of wealth.I'm thinking the Times reporter didn't actually watch the Obama video.
83 | simoom Tue, Sep 18, 2012 8:31:18pm |
After being blocked for a time, sounds like Pamela Geller will soon be plastering her bigoted ads all over the NY subway system:
[Link: www.nytimes.com...]
... New Yorkers will soon encounter another potentially inflammatory rendering of Islam: an advertisement in the transit system that reads, “In any war between the civilized man and the savage, support the civilized man.”
It concludes with the words, “Support Israel. Defeat Jihad,” wedged between two Stars of David.
After rejecting the ads initially, then losing a federal court ruling on First Amendment grounds, the Metropolitan Transportation Authority said on Tuesday that the ads were expected to appear next week at 10 subway stations.
84 | makeitstop Tue, Sep 18, 2012 8:31:20pm |
85 | b_sharp Tue, Sep 18, 2012 8:31:39pm |
re: #76 William Barnett-Lewis
50 lb bag of rice is really cheap & can be stretched further than anything else on this freaking planet. Navy or kidney beans for protein. Soup bones are a god send. If you want meat, you'd better know how to hunt.
Yeah, my grandmother's lessons from the Great Depression have helped me more than once.
Rice? I'd as soon eat cardboard.
86 | HappyWarrior Tue, Sep 18, 2012 8:32:15pm |
re: #81 makeitstop
Finally listened to that clip. Really, this is what Romney thinks is the smoking gun that will somehow make Mitt's asshole behavior be forgotten? Delusion sure is ripe.
87 | SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Sep 18, 2012 8:32:37pm |
re: #12 Kragar
What Mitt really needs is the right theme music to get his campaign to get back on track...
[Embedded content]
I was thinking of this:
88 | gwangung Tue, Sep 18, 2012 8:33:02pm |
re: #85 Illustrated Inhibitions
Rice? I'd as soon eat cardboard.
Asian folks make funny noises in your direction!
89 | Kragar Tue, Sep 18, 2012 8:33:03pm |
Jesus’ Wife Mentioned on Fourth-Century Papyrus Fragment
A scrap of papyrus dated to the fourth century has written on it in the ancient Coptic language, “Jesus said to them, my wife,” reopening the debate about whether Jesus was married, as some early Christians believed.
The words on the honey-colored fragment are the first to show Jesus referring to a wife, according to Karen King, a professor of divinity at Harvard Divinity School in Cambridge, Massachusetts, who presented the finding today at the International Congress of Coptic Studies in Rome. The writing in black ink is in the language of Egyptian Christians, on a fragment of about 1.5 by 3 inches (4 by 8 centimeters).
The fragment likely is authentic, based on the papyrus and handwriting, Roger Bagnall, director of the Institute for the Study of the Ancient World in New York said in a statement from Harvard. Early Christians didn’t agree about whether they should marry or remain celibate, and the earliest claim Jesus didn’t marry is from 200 A.D., King said.
“One of the things we do know is that very rarely in ancient literature was the marital status of men discussed,” King said in a conference call with reporters. “Silence in marital status is normal.”
Only women were identified in terms of family relationships, as someone’s sister, mother, or wife, King said. The question of whether Jesus married came up later when people wanted to use him as a model for their lives, she said.
90 | Kragar Tue, Sep 18, 2012 8:33:43pm |
91 | Killgore Trout Tue, Sep 18, 2012 8:34:14pm |
Brace yourselves, cartoons are coming
French leaders fret over new Mohammad cartoons
... the paper has planned another series of cartoons of Muhammad, including, according to Reuters, "nude caricatures." The paper is due to hit newsstands Wednesday.
...
Prime Minister Jean-Marc Ayrault issued a statement, which Reuters translated as saying: "In the current climate, the prime minister wishes to stress his disapproval of all excess and calls on everyone to behave responsibly."French newspaper Le Monde reports that Foreign Minister Laurent Fabius, on a visit to Cairo, condemned the cartoons, claiming to the French government is "against hostile provocations at this time."
The Interior Ministry has announced plans to beef up security around the offices of Charlie Hebdo as a precaution, according to Le Monde.
Dalil Boubakeur, the senior cleric at Paris's biggest mosque, told Agence France Presse he has appealed for France's Muslims to remain calm.
"It is with astonishment, sadness and concern that I have learned that this publication is risking increasing the current outrage across the Muslim world," he said. "I would appeal to them not to pour oil on the fire.
92 | Gus Tue, Sep 18, 2012 8:34:29pm |
Some people are born on third base. Romney was born on home plate. He's only heard reports of the other bases.— Roger Ebert (@ebertchicago) September 19, 2012
93 | Gus Tue, Sep 18, 2012 8:35:46pm |
[Crack]
And Roger hits one straight out of the park! It's a home run!
94 | Reverend Mother Ramallo Tue, Sep 18, 2012 8:36:04pm |
This is The Most inept campaign I have ever seen in my life.
Now I wanna see Mitt Romney's transcripts...
LOL!!!
95 | Shiplord Kirel Tue, Sep 18, 2012 8:36:50pm |
The arch robber baron John D. Rockefeller would at least go around giving people shiny new dimes.
This was more than two bucks in modern money. Do we see Romney or any other present-day plutocrats going around passing out two dollar bills?
My conclusion: The present generation of money grubbers is even more callous than their predecessors, and they steal more than Rockefeller, Vanderbilt, and Morgan could have imagined.
97 | Gus Tue, Sep 18, 2012 8:37:08pm |
re: #94 Reverend Mother Ramallo
This is The Most inept campaign I have ever seen in my life.
Now I wanna see Mitt Romney's transcripts...
LOL!!!
Yep. Horrible. Been watching politics since 1976.
98 | HappyWarrior Tue, Sep 18, 2012 8:37:09pm |
re: #92 Gus
[Embedded content]
Born with the shaving cream pie on his face, thinks he hit the walk off home run.
99 | darthstar Tue, Sep 18, 2012 8:37:30pm |
@liberalchik Yeah, we're on the same ticket, but I barely know the guy, I swear! #p2— Sean McCabe (@darthstar99) September 19, 2012
100 | Gus Tue, Sep 18, 2012 8:37:39pm |
re: #98 HappyWarrior
Born with the shaving cream pie on his face, thinks he hit the walk off home run.
His dad owns the shaving cream factory.
//
102 | prairiefire Tue, Sep 18, 2012 8:38:37pm |
re: #46 HappyWarrior
"That's all we are giving you people."
103 | Killgore Trout Tue, Sep 18, 2012 8:38:59pm |
Treading carefully in the garden tonight. Frogs everywhere. Much larger that previous years, very active.
104 | HappyWarrior Tue, Sep 18, 2012 8:40:04pm |
re: #99 darthstar
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Yeah, Ryan's probably concerned with saving his own congressional seat a bit more now.
105 | Lidane Tue, Sep 18, 2012 8:40:04pm |
re: #94 Reverend Mother Ramallo
This is The Most inept campaign I have ever seen in my life.
The tell-all books are going to be awesome. I can't wait.
106 | JamesWI Tue, Sep 18, 2012 8:40:05pm |
Colbert is talking about the video now. The thing is, his lines sound like they came word-for-word from the wingnut pundits.
107 | prairiefire Tue, Sep 18, 2012 8:40:06pm |
re: #103 Killgore Trout
Treading carefully in the garden tonight. Frogs everywhere. Much larger that previous years, very active.
They are your grandchildren! Three generations by now, I should think.
108 | Lidane Tue, Sep 18, 2012 8:41:14pm |
re: #106 JamesWI
Colbert is talking about the video now. The thing is, his lines sound like they came word-for-word from the wingnut pundits.
They probably did. Why mess with well written comedy?
109 | Kragar Tue, Sep 18, 2012 8:41:27pm |
re: #103 Killgore Trout
Treading carefully in the garden tonight. Frogs everywhere. Much larger that previous years, very active.
Beware...
110 | Gus Tue, Sep 18, 2012 8:41:47pm |
re: #103 Killgore Trout
Treading carefully in the garden tonight. Frogs everywhere. Much larger that previous years, very active.
Were you out there right meow?
111 | darthstar Tue, Sep 18, 2012 8:41:49pm |
Video is on buzzfeed. Ann's hair is more fucked up than Mitt's was last night.
112 | Shiplord Kirel Tue, Sep 18, 2012 8:42:16pm |
Romney and the wingnut minions claim, of course, that they are victims of biased media sharks.
If so, it's probably a good idea to avoid slitting your wrists when you go swimming with them.
113 | Gus Tue, Sep 18, 2012 8:43:45pm |
Politifact Totals: Obama True/False 46/27%* is.gd/jsWn1q VS Romney True/False 30/43%* is.gd/qfG545 *(half-true omitted)— Auriandra (@Auriandra) September 19, 2012
114 | Killgore Trout Tue, Sep 18, 2012 8:43:47pm |
re: #107 prairiefire
They are your grandchildren! Three generations by now, I should think.
Yeah, third generation. Pretty impressive.
116 | JamesWI Tue, Sep 18, 2012 8:43:59pm |
Colbert in a tux and tophat, giving the "elegantly stated" version of Romney's speech. Tossing shrimp at the "victims" who have the nerve to think they're "entitled to food."
117 | Mich-again Tue, Sep 18, 2012 8:44:42pm |
Mitt's mission, how to turn all of this into him being the real victim.
118 | aagcobb Tue, Sep 18, 2012 8:45:10pm |
re: #95 Shiplord Kirel
The arch robber baron John D. Rockefeller would at least go around giving people shiny new dimes.
This was more than two bucks in modern money. Do we see Romney or any other present-day plutocrats going around passing out two dollar bills?
My conclusion: The present generation of money grubbers is even more callous than their predecessors, and they steal more than Rockefeller, Vanderbilt, and Morgan could have imagined.
Yep, the 1% have been redistributing wealth to themselves for decades via globalization, union busting, and lobbying government for tax credits, rebates, corporate welfare, and lower tax rates on income and capital gains. So I agree with the President, why should wealth only be redistributed upward to the 1%?
119 | darthstar Tue, Sep 18, 2012 8:45:25pm |
re: #111 darthstar
Video is on buzzfeed. Ann's hair is more fucked up than Mitt's was last night.
Okay, I could only put up with about half of that interview. I'd rather listen to Pamela Geller.
120 | aagcobb Tue, Sep 18, 2012 8:46:32pm |
re: #4 Kragar
"WHO THE FUCK THOUGHT THIS WAS A GOOD IDEA?"
Is this video title not the Romney Campaign's "I am not a witch" moment?
121 | Shiplord Kirel Tue, Sep 18, 2012 8:47:09pm |
The modern GOP is a curious alliance of fundamentalist Christians, whose founder drove the corrupt money changers from the Temple, and big money corporate types, who ARE the corrupt money changers in the Temple.
122 | freetoken Tue, Sep 18, 2012 8:47:20pm |
With all the revelations and discussions about Romney, other media hogs just aren't getting the attention they desire, though they are trying. Such as creationist Ben Stein:
Ben Stein: Hillary Clinton ‘Responsible’ For Benghazi Deaths, Should Resign
123 | HappyWarrior Tue, Sep 18, 2012 8:48:55pm |
re: #122 freetoken
With all the revelations and discussions about Romney, other media hogs just aren't getting the attention they desire, though they are trying. Such as creationist Ben Stein:
Ben Stein: Hillary Clinton ‘Responsible’ For Benghazi Deaths, Should Resign
So, George Schultz should have resigned after the bombing of the barracks in Beirut, right, Ben? Or is that bullshit argument only reserved for Democratic SoS's?
125 | prairiefire Tue, Sep 18, 2012 8:52:09pm |
re: #111 darthstar
Video is on buzzfeed. Ann's hair is more fucked up than Mitt's was last night.
I can't believe how collectively jacked up their hair has been in the last 24 hours. Maybe their gays fled./
126 | Mich-again Tue, Sep 18, 2012 8:52:14pm |
re: #121 Shiplord Kirel
The modern GOP is a curious alliance of fundamentalist Christians, whose founder drove the corrupt money changers from the Temple, and big money corporate types, who ARE the corrupt money changers in the Temple.
Throwing the first stones, kicking dirt on their enemies, disowning the prodigal sons, demonizing the poor.. Not exactly the message from the New Testament.
127 | makeitstop Tue, Sep 18, 2012 8:53:32pm |
Cole's place has a guess the vulgar, unprintable phrase thread. This is my fave comment so far:
The campaign has turning into such a bloated, festering, fucking unholy abomination that the only people who are still interested in us are blind necrophiliacs who’ve lost their sense of smell.
They're a foul-mouthed bunch over there. I can't stop laughing.
128 | darthstar Tue, Sep 18, 2012 8:53:37pm |
re: #125 prairiefire
I can't believe how collectively jacked up their hair has been in the last 24 hours. Maybe their gays fled./
@tarkloon We're the Romney's and we don't approve this message about not disdaining the poor.Of course we disdain them-they're poor! #p2— Sean McCabe (@darthstar99) September 19, 2012
129 | Reverend Mother Ramallo Tue, Sep 18, 2012 8:53:39pm |
I hope he's paying his staffers better than he pays his maids, because I can't see any of them getting hired to run another campaign for anyone...evah!
re: #105 Lidane
I bet they've already started the rough drafts.
130 | HappyWarrior Tue, Sep 18, 2012 8:54:55pm |
re: #129 Reverend Mother Ramallo
I hope he's paying his staffers better than he pays his maids, because I can't see any of them getting hired to run another campaign for anyone...evah!
I bet they've already started the rough drafts.
Probably trying to make themselves look as good as possible too. And I just know that Jay Roach who directed Game Change and Recount will want to tell this story too. So, honest question, who plays Mitt?
131 | Lidane Tue, Sep 18, 2012 8:54:58pm |
"said that the campaign was turning into a vulgar, unprintable phrase." Clusterfuck? Shit show?thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2012/09/18/a-m...— Matt Yglesias (@mattyglesias) September 19, 2012
132 | William Barnett-Lewis Tue, Sep 18, 2012 8:55:10pm |
re: #80 Kragar
And somewhere, McCain is enjoying a Scotch and saying "Pick Romney instead of Palin? Right. Who's laughing now, you bastards?"
Yep. "She kept the nut-jobs happy and wasn't as bad as this freak."
134 | Mich-again Tue, Sep 18, 2012 8:57:21pm |
re: #131 Lidane
Still, a flustered adviser, describing the mood, said that the campaign was turning into a vulgar, unprintable phrase.
Yes without a doubt, the word in question was clusterfuck.
135 | Lidane Tue, Sep 18, 2012 8:57:42pm |
re: #127 makeitstop
Cole's place has a guess the vulgar, unprintable phrase thread. This is my fave comment so far:
They're a foul-mouthed bunch over there. I can't stop laughing.
Balloon Juice is awesome. Cole used to be a wingnut back in the day but the Schiavo lunacy made him break with the right. It's been a glorious, foul-mouthed shift to the left ever since. I love that place.
136 | Reverend Mother Ramallo Tue, Sep 18, 2012 8:58:00pm |
re: #130 HappyWarrior
Probably trying to make themselves look as good as possible too. And I just know that Jay Roach who directed Game Change and Recount will want to tell this story too. So, honest question, who plays Mitt?
That's a good question...I don't know.
I'll have to think about that one.
137 | freetoken Tue, Sep 18, 2012 8:58:19pm |
Wonder if Romney will use his incredible foreign-policy-fu on this one:
U.S. Ambassador’s Vehicle Damaged During Protests in Beijing
Demonstrators in Beijing caused minor damage to the official vehicle of U.S. Ambassador Gary Locke yesterday as it was about to enter the embassy grounds, embassy spokesman Nolan Barkhouse said.
[...]
138 | The Ghost of a Flea Tue, Sep 18, 2012 8:58:22pm |
re: #121 Shiplord Kirel
The modern GOP is a curious alliance of fundamentalist Christians, whose founder drove the corrupt money changers from the Temple, and big money corporate types, who ARE the corrupt money changers in the Temple.
Jesus gives the minority report in wingnut Christianity.
From the archives: Rick Warren and The Purpose-Driven Lie
[On July 25, 2011] famed “Christian” pastor Rick Warren, wealthy author and megachurch leader, tweeted the following:
HALF of America pays NO taxes. Zero. So they’re happy for tax rates to be raised on the other half that DOES pay any taxes.
Stupid or evil? Both. That’s such an old lie, told so often by old liars and debunked so frequently that Warren can’t have believed it unless he had spent the previous three decades somewhere with no television, no radio, no newspapers and no Bibles.
The nasty lie he told was not a faux pas, or an innocent bit of misinformation.
First of all, he knew it was not true...He was bearing false witness. He was bearing witness that he knew to be false.But more importantly, it was malicious false witness. This was not a piece of data that he passed along mistakenly believing it to be true. This was a slander against poor people that no one would ever pass along unless they really didn’t like poor people. It sounded mean because it was mean.
It’s a vicious lie, contemptuous of the weak, haughty and detestable, arrogant, overfed and unconcerned. This was the sin of your sister Sodom: she and her daughters had pride, excess of food, and prosperous ease, but did not aid the poor and the needy.
139 | Mich-again Tue, Sep 18, 2012 8:59:05pm |
re: #131 Lidane
How about guessing this one..
Aides did little to hide their annoyance: on Monday night, a Romney aide cursed loudly as he tried to corral reporters into an impromptu news conference in Costa Mesa, Calif.
OK, here is my guess..
GD-it. I said over F-ing here you numbnuts.
140 | HappyWarrior Tue, Sep 18, 2012 8:59:31pm |
re: #136 Reverend Mother Ramallo
That's a good question...I don't know.
I'll have to think about that one.
Heh they asked him and Ann apparently who they think would play each other. Mitt misunderstood the question and said Gene Hackman for Ann. Quickly turned it into a Birdcage ref though.
141 | HappyWarrior Tue, Sep 18, 2012 9:00:29pm |
re: #139 Mich-again
How about guessing this one..
OK, here is my guess..
They're getting frustrated. Can you blame them?
142 | Targetpractice Tue, Sep 18, 2012 9:00:36pm |
re: #112 Shiplord Kirel
Romney and the wingnut minions claim, of course, that they are victims of biased media sharks.
If so, it's probably a good idea to avoid slitting your wrists when you go swimming with them.
I've noticed that campaigns that are deep shit usually are the first to start whining about how "unfair" the press is.
143 | freetoken Tue, Sep 18, 2012 9:01:24pm |
re: #138 The Ghost of a Flea
Many rich and "successful" people are nothing more than ignorant assholes, who have discovered that the average person is too stupid to analyze claims for themselves and thus simply tell people what they want to hear, for which the masses will gladly pay.
144 | HappyWarrior Tue, Sep 18, 2012 9:01:24pm |
re: #142 Targetpractice
I've noticed that campaigns that are deep shit usually are the first to start whining about how "unfair" the press is.
Yeah you saw that with McCain. They were convinced that the media was in the tank for Obama.
145 | Gus Tue, Sep 18, 2012 9:01:46pm |
LOL
"@gus_802: So after all of these years of seeing Romney we finally learn the truth. Mitt Romney's an asshole. #p2 #tlot" @jennajameson— Paul wilson (@6inches_of_joy) September 19, 2012
146 | Mich-again Tue, Sep 18, 2012 9:01:54pm |
I think when they make the Mitt for TV movie about Romney's campaign, they ought to get all the same people, but cast them in parts playing others. So Newt gets to play Mitt. Mitt gets to be Sarah Palin, Santorum is Ron Paul... Man that would be some funny shit, like those old Dean Martin celebrity roasts.
147 | Gus Tue, Sep 18, 2012 9:02:18pm |
I had Tweeted this.
So after all of these years of seeing Romney we finally learn the truth. Mitt Romney's an asshole. #p2 #tlot— Gus (@Gus_802) September 19, 2012
148 | HappyWarrior Tue, Sep 18, 2012 9:02:39pm |
re: #146 Mich-again
I think when they make the Mitt for TV movie about Romney's campaign, they ought to get all the same people, but cast them in parts playing others. So Newt gets to play Mitt. Mitt gets to be Sarah Palin, Santorum is Ron Paul... Man that would be some funny shit, like those old Dean Martin celebrity roasts.
Haha too bad none of them really have any sense of humor.
150 | makeitstop Tue, Sep 18, 2012 9:03:25pm |
re: #135 Lidane
Balloon Juice is awesome. Cole used to be a wingnut back in the day but the Schiavo lunacy made him break with the right. It's been a glorious, foul-mouthed shift to the left ever since. I love that place.
I actually used to hang out at BJ before I ended up here. Cole cracks me up. When he starts railing, it is a wonder to behold.
151 | Mich-again Tue, Sep 18, 2012 9:04:03pm |
re: #147 Gus
I think the kid that got a haircut from Mitt knew that 50 years ago.
152 | Lidane Tue, Sep 18, 2012 9:04:18pm |
The fundraiser tape is the most specific Romney has ever gotten about his policies and THEY ARE TERRIFYING. Also mostly based on lies.— Ana Marie Cox (@anamariecox) September 19, 2012
153 | prairiefire Tue, Sep 18, 2012 9:05:06pm |
re: #136 Reverend Mother Ramallo
The heavy browed dad from Modern Family, I think.
154 | Mich-again Tue, Sep 18, 2012 9:05:33pm |
What do you say to people who gave $50,000 for dinner and a show and you are the show? Mitt is like, beats the fuck outta me..
155 | SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Sep 18, 2012 9:05:41pm |
re: #130 HappyWarrior
Probably trying to make themselves look as good as possible too. And I just know that Jay Roach who directed Game Change and Recount will want to tell this story too. So, honest question, who plays Mitt?
Christopher Walken?
Or...don't laugh...Sean Penn?
156 | MittDoesNotCompute Tue, Sep 18, 2012 9:06:01pm |
re: #123 HappyWarrior
So, George Schultz should have resigned after the bombing of the barracks in Beirut, right, Ben? Or is that bullshit argument only reserved for Democratic SoS's?
We're talking about RWNJs here...what do you think?
/
157 | HappyWarrior Tue, Sep 18, 2012 9:06:04pm |
re: #153 prairiefire
The heavy browed dad from Modern Family, I think.
Whatever they do it will probably surprise me. Thought Ed Harris was a surprising choice for McCain, for example.
158 | freetoken Tue, Sep 18, 2012 9:06:56pm |
Many of the "base" upon which Romney is depending actually believe many of those silly claims that Romney repeats. They don't really care what the "smart" people believe about all of this.
Yes, some of the self identified "Republicans" are wringing their hands over Mitt's now several idiotic statements, but these types are in big cities and rub shoulders with those nasty elites, or are in the DC inner-circle and know the actual score.
159 | HappyWarrior Tue, Sep 18, 2012 9:08:53pm |
re: #155 SanFranciscoZionist
Christopher Walken?
Or...don't laugh...Sean Penn?
I think Walken's too creepy looking to play Mitt heh. Penn is younger but he is talented so maybe.
160 | MittDoesNotCompute Tue, Sep 18, 2012 9:08:59pm |
re: #124 Gus
For Austin Blue
FL EVIL41 B-52 NELLIS
Something very primal and bowel-shaking about the sound of a B-52 flying at you, then away from you.
161 | Gus Tue, Sep 18, 2012 9:09:40pm |
re: #160 Gert Fröbe
Something very primal and bowel-shaking about the sound of a B-52 flying at you, then away from you.
That's because it's the grim reaper.
162 | Targetpractice Tue, Sep 18, 2012 9:10:38pm |
re: #160 Gert Fröbe
Something very primal and bowel-shaking about the sound of a B-52 flying at you, then away from you.
For some reason, I think I'd take that over Super Hornets buzzing my house, one after the other, for hours at a time.
163 | freetoken Tue, Sep 18, 2012 9:10:46pm |
164 | Reverend Mother Ramallo Tue, Sep 18, 2012 9:11:57pm |
Well Bruce Campbell from Burn Notice sort of has the look, but I'm not sure if he could pull off a Mitt Romney. I've mostly seen him in B-movies.
Lots of wooden acting.
Then again...
165 | HappyWarrior Tue, Sep 18, 2012 9:12:04pm |
re: #163 freetoken
For example:
Hannity Says Video Of Romney's 47 Percent Remarks "In The End, Will Be Seen As A Godsend" For Romney
Of course, he probably also thinks the 1998 Obama tape will doom Obama and Mitt will rise like a phoenix.
166 | MittDoesNotCompute Tue, Sep 18, 2012 9:12:09pm |
re: #153 prairiefire
The heavy browed dad from Modern Family, I think.
I just don't think that Ed O'Neill (AKA Al Bundy from Married with Children) could do RMoney; O'Neill just oozes "Everyman" and RMoney doesn't have any of that at all.
167 | darthstar Tue, Sep 18, 2012 9:12:09pm |
re: #160 Gert Fröbe
Something very primal and bowel-shaking about the sound of a B-52 flying at you, then away from you.
I had the good fortune of being in the middle of returning a rental car at Heathrow airport once when the Concorde was still in service, and as I was signing in my car, the rental agent put on his ear protection and dropped into a crouch. I felt the roar before I heard it, then looked up to see the Concorde roaring past about 500 feet from me. The sound was, literally, deafening, as I watched the engine flame as it went away then turned to see this guy shouting at me and holding out my receipt. I saw his lips move, but I honestly couldn't hear a word he said. Pretty fucking awesome.
168 | MittDoesNotCompute Tue, Sep 18, 2012 9:12:32pm |
169 | Targetpractice Tue, Sep 18, 2012 9:13:19pm |
re: #163 freetoken
For example:
Hannity Says Video Of Romney's 47 Percent Remarks "In The End, Will Be Seen As A Godsend" For Romney
I'll take "Wingnuts In Complete And Total Denial" for $1000, Alex.
170 | HappyWarrior Tue, Sep 18, 2012 9:13:35pm |
re: #169 Targetpractice
I'll take "Wingnuts In Complete And Total Denial" for $1000, Alex.
Daily Double.
171 | Mich-again Tue, Sep 18, 2012 9:13:45pm |
172 | MittDoesNotCompute Tue, Sep 18, 2012 9:14:45pm |
re: #164 Reverend Mother Ramallo
Well Bruce Campbell from Burn Notice sort of has the look, but I'm not sure if he could pull off a Mitt Romney. I've mostly seen him in B-movies.
Lots of wooden acting.
Then again...
Campbell has the face, the hair, and the chops to do a mean RMoney, but he's gotten a bit heavy/jowly over the years (compare him in Burn Notice, then in Army of Darkness or any of the other Evil Dead films); he'd have to drop some pounds, but I think he'd be spot on.
173 | Lidane Tue, Sep 18, 2012 9:15:21pm |
re: #139 Mich-again
Personally, I keep waiting for someone at Romney HQ to lose it and channel their inner Ari Gold:
"You’re fired, and in case your ears are fucked, Get. The Fuck. Out! And the next person I see juggling, tap dancing, or baton twirling or doing any other circus-like tricks, will join him, all right? One-strike policy applies. Now get back to work! God damn that felt good."
That would be awesome, especially if it got caught on tape.
174 | Lidane Tue, Sep 18, 2012 9:16:44pm |
re: #150 makeitstop
I actually used to hang out at BJ before I ended up here. Cole cracks me up. When he starts railing, it is a wonder to behold.
Same here. I used to post there a long time ago and occasionally lurk here. Now it's the other way around, but I follow a lot of the BJ writers on Twitter so I don't miss anything. ABL is hilarious.
175 | Mich-again Tue, Sep 18, 2012 9:16:45pm |
re: #167 darthstar
I had the good fortune of being in the middle of returning a rental car at Heathrow airport once when the Concorde was still in service, and as I was signing in my car, the rental agent put on his ear protection and dropped into a crouch. I felt the roar before I heard it, then looked up to see the Concorde roaring past about 500 feet from me. The sound was, literally, deafening, as I watched the engine flame as it went away then turned to see this guy shouting at me and holding out my receipt. I saw his lips move, but I honestly couldn't hear a word he said. Pretty fucking awesome.
So one time way back I'm at my dad's business mowing the lawn on Telegraph near West Road and I hear this noise so loud it is drowning out the Briggs and Stratton motor and I'm like WTF is that and I look up and its a Concorde taking off from DTW rght over my head. way badass.
176 | prairiefire Tue, Sep 18, 2012 9:17:16pm |
re: #164 Reverend Mother Ramallo
He's too muscaly. And intelligent/sensitive.
177 | Targetpractice Tue, Sep 18, 2012 9:17:20pm |
re: #172 Gert Fröbe
Campbell has the face, the hair, and the chops to do a mean RMoney, but he's gotten a bit heavy/jowly over the years (compare him in Burn Notice, then in Army of Darkness or any of the other Evil Dead films); he'd have to drop some pounds, but I think he'd be spot on.
Speaking of The Bruce, did you hear they're rebooting the Evil Dead franchise?
178 | William Barnett-Lewis Tue, Sep 18, 2012 9:17:40pm |
re: #161 Gus
That's because it's the grim reaper.
No. It's Grim's older, bigger brother. The one who used to give you an Atomic Wedgie when he caught you giving his little brother shit.
(this was before Mandy got involved... :eek: )
179 | freetoken Tue, Sep 18, 2012 9:17:51pm |
re: #170 HappyWarrior
Daily Double.
No kidding:
Hannity Omits The "Food Stamp" Facts: Most Recipients Have Jobs, Or Are Seniors Or Children
180 | MittDoesNotCompute Tue, Sep 18, 2012 9:19:04pm |
re: #173 Lidane
Personally, I keep waiting for someone at Romney HQ to lose it and channel their inner Ari Gold:
That would be awesome, especially if it got caught on tape.
181 | HappyWarrior Tue, Sep 18, 2012 9:19:10pm |
re: #179 freetoken
No kidding:
Hannity Omits The "Food Stamp" Facts: Most Recipients Have Jobs, Or Are Seniors Or Children
Heh Hannity has never let facts get in the way of spreading bullshit.
182 | Targetpractice Tue, Sep 18, 2012 9:19:39pm |
re: #179 freetoken
No kidding:
Hannity Omits The "Food Stamp" Facts: Most Recipients Have Jobs, Or Are Seniors Or Children
Seriously, Hannity's just the most visible of the nutbars who are absolutely convinced that Willard will come out of this looking good because, in their minds, the 53% of "makers" will all decide they're tired of carrying the 47% of "takers" and all vote for Romney.
183 | Kragar Tue, Sep 18, 2012 9:20:25pm |
Is some one looking for an actor to play Mitt?
184 | freetoken Tue, Sep 18, 2012 9:20:54pm |
re: #181 HappyWarrior
Well, the leaked Romney video is turning out to be just the dog whistle the ugly-right hopes for:
Pat Buchanan: If Welfare Is Like "A Narcotic," "Obama Is A Drug Dealer Of Welfare"
185 | HappyWarrior Tue, Sep 18, 2012 9:21:26pm |
re: #183 Kragar
Is some one looking for an actor to play Mitt?
Wow I've never heard of that actor but looks wise yeah!
186 | sunnygal Tue, Sep 18, 2012 9:21:38pm |
re: #28 DisturbedEma
What I found ridiculous in her speech at the convention, trying to make her and Mitt appear to be "one of you" was her claim that they used the ironing board for a dining table. I thought, "sure, while they were waiting for their dining set to be delivered"
188 | HappyWarrior Tue, Sep 18, 2012 9:22:03pm |
re: #184 freetoken
Well, the leaked Romney video is turning out to be just the dog whistle the ugly-right hopes for:
Pat Buchanan: If Welfare Is Like "A Narcotic," "Obama Is A Drug Dealer Of Welfare"
Can always count on Pat Buchanan for ugly bullshit.
189 | MittDoesNotCompute Tue, Sep 18, 2012 9:22:32pm |
re: #177 Targetpractice
Speaking of The Bruce, did you hear they're rebooting the Evil Dead franchise?
God, no...
At least Campbell and Raimi are collaborating on it, even if Ash will be absent.
Still...
190 | Mich-again Tue, Sep 18, 2012 9:22:40pm |
re: #183 Kragar
Is some one looking for an actor to play Mitt?
Heck I would vote for that guy before Romney.
191 | Reverend Mother Ramallo Tue, Sep 18, 2012 9:22:57pm |
re: #176 prairiefire
He's too muscaly. And intelligent/sensitive.
All he'd have to do is turn off his brain, sputter lots of insincere/insensitive
platitudes, and smirk like he's got 'Tiger Blood' running through his veins, and he'll do fine.
192 | Targetpractice Tue, Sep 18, 2012 9:22:57pm |
re: #183 Kragar
Is some one looking for an actor to play Mitt?
Perfect. Not just the looks, but the dry as fuck, "I'm the God of this universe" delivery too. Though he can manage to look angry, so it might be a tough role for him to play.
193 | HappyWarrior Tue, Sep 18, 2012 9:25:07pm |
I was surprised by Harris being the choice for McCain because I thought Harris perhaps a little young and tall/thin for the role but he wasn't bad. They'll probably end up if they do this go with someone fairly well known because that's how you get the casual viewer drawn to watching things like this.
194 | Varek Raith Tue, Sep 18, 2012 9:26:36pm |
Hannity Says Video Of Romney's 47 Percent Remarks "In The End, Will Be Seen As A Godsend" For Romney
Sure... In the land of raining donuts.
195 | MittDoesNotCompute Tue, Sep 18, 2012 9:26:50pm |
re: #182 Targetpractice
Seriously, Hannity's just the most visible of the nutbars who are absolutely convinced that Willard will come out of this looking good because, in their minds, the 53% of "makers" will all decide they're tired of carrying the 47% of "takers" and all vote for Romney.
They're fucking high (or need to be)...
196 | MittDoesNotCompute Tue, Sep 18, 2012 9:29:18pm |
re: #194 Varek Raith
Hannity Says Video Of Romney's 47 Percent Remarks "In The End, Will Be Seen As A Godsend" For RomneySure... In the land of raining donuts.
Mmmm, donuts...
*drools*
197 | darthstar Tue, Sep 18, 2012 9:29:32pm |
Hey, it's almost 12:30am on the east coast.Shouldn't #Romney be holding another emergency presser right now? #p2 #romneyencore #fail— Sean McCabe (@darthstar99) September 19, 2012
198 | darthstar Tue, Sep 18, 2012 9:30:00pm |
re: #194 Varek Raith
Hannity Says Video Of Romney's 47 Percent Remarks "In The End, Will Be Seen As A Godsend" For RomneySure... In the land of raining donuts.
God send his campaign to hell.
199 | Mich-again Tue, Sep 18, 2012 9:30:07pm |
re: #182 Targetpractice
Didn't Sean Hannity sing Beauty School Dropout in Grease? /
200 | darthstar Tue, Sep 18, 2012 9:30:29pm |
re: #195 Gert Fröbe
They're fucking high (or need to be)...
Their biggest problem is that they don't get high.
201 | sagehen Tue, Sep 18, 2012 9:30:51pm |
202 | freetoken Tue, Sep 18, 2012 9:30:56pm |
re: #198 darthstar
God send his campaign to hell.
Well, it appears as if that video is giving Romney some credibility with the atavistic right, that he's one of "them".
203 | Targetpractice Tue, Sep 18, 2012 9:31:18pm |
re: #195 Gert Fröbe
They're fucking high (or need to be)...
Times I wish I was, just so half the shit they try to say made any sense. One just responded to my questioning him why, if Willard is such hot shit as a candidate, is he not walking away with this election. The response was that (paraphrase) Willard's right, the 47% are solidly in Obama's corner, and that's how it's gonna be until the government collapses.
I picked the wrong week to quit drinking.//
204 | Gus Tue, Sep 18, 2012 9:31:21pm |
re: #194 Varek Raith
Hannity Says Video Of Romney's 47 Percent Remarks "In The End, Will Be Seen As A Godsend" For RomneySure... In the land of raining donuts.
Oh no he's right. We should encourage them.
Mitt Romney doesn't care about half of America.
[Ominous music.]
"I'm Mitt Romney, and I approve this message."
Paul Ryan rebukes.
Film @ 11.
//
205 | Targetpractice Tue, Sep 18, 2012 9:32:07pm |
re: #201 sagehen
Gordon Gekko, of course.
Now there's a possibility, Michael Douglas as Mitt Romney. He'd just be playing Gordon Gekko all over again, so it wouldn't be really that much a stretch.
206 | darthstar Tue, Sep 18, 2012 9:32:48pm |
re: #203 Targetpractice
Might be fun to go to a Romney rally on shrooms.
207 | Reverend Mother Ramallo Tue, Sep 18, 2012 9:34:57pm |
Gekko had flair.
Romney is as exciting as boiled ice-burg lettuce.
208 | William Barnett-Lewis Tue, Sep 18, 2012 9:34:58pm |
re: #206 darthstar
Might be fun to go to a Romney rally on shrooms.
No, almost as easy to go paranoid as on LSD...
No, I won't talk about why I think that...
209 | sagehen Tue, Sep 18, 2012 9:35:26pm |
The SNL cold opening was pretty funny last Saturday, but it's even funnier today:
[Link: www.hulu.com...]
210 | Varek Raith Tue, Sep 18, 2012 9:37:43pm |
211 | Petero1818 Tue, Sep 18, 2012 9:38:25pm |
re: #163 freetoken
For example:
Hannity Says Video Of Romney's 47 Percent Remarks "In The End, Will Be Seen As A Godsend" For Romney
Living in the echo chamber has that effect. The reality is that this will be revived at the debate. I expect Obama to throw it right in his face. To make him either acknowledge that he he called minimum wage earners, retirees, and others that pay no federal income tax due to tax cuts they received under Republican administrations irresponsible and lazy or he will force Mitt to retreat and look weak in the moment and stupid for not doing it sooner.
212 | darthstar Tue, Sep 18, 2012 9:38:40pm |
re: #208 William Barnett-Lewis
No, almost as easy to go paranoid as on LSD...
No, I won't talk about why I think that...
I only got paranoid on mushrooms maybe a half-dozen times...the rest of my trips were mostly pleasant...but there was often that 15-30 minutes as they were kicking in that I wondered, Have I taken too much? Usually the answer was yes, but one I puked and drank another couple of beers and smoked a couple of bowls of good pot I was usually fine and the next four to six hours were quite enjoyable.
213 | William Barnett-Lewis Tue, Sep 18, 2012 9:38:59pm |
Gonna go OT for a moment here. I want to offer a toast to an absent friend tonight. See, today would have been my mother's 70th birthday.
Cheers!
214 | Shiplord Kirel Tue, Sep 18, 2012 9:39:00pm |
re: #160 Gert Fröbe
Something very primal and bowel-shaking about the sound of a B-52 flying at you, then away from you.
I was an eyewitness to several Arc Light strikes in Vietnam. There is really no describing it but the bowel shaking part is the literal truth.
215 | Pawn of the Oppressor Tue, Sep 18, 2012 9:39:05pm |
re: #75 Mocking Jay
A genuinely interesting story, full of shit I did not know.
[Embedded content]
Man, f that ethanol business... Growing food to power cars... Sick, stupid stuff, and it screws motorcyclists big-time, if true. My bike's tank is about four gallons *total*, typical fill-up is about two gallons for me... So if I try to be more efficient by commuting on my 50+mpg bike, I get kicked by the corn gas people?
I don't know how they think they can get away with this crap.
216 | freetoken Tue, Sep 18, 2012 9:39:32pm |
re: #211 Petero1818
Well, the Salem Communications outlets are really trumpeting Romney's "47%" statement, claiming not only it is true but that 76% of Americans polled agree with it!
217 | darthstar Tue, Sep 18, 2012 9:39:34pm |
re: #213 William Barnett-Lewis
Gonna go OT for a moment here. I want to offer a toast to an absent friend tonight. See, today would have been my mother's 70th birthday.
Cheers!
Cheers to your mom.
218 | jaunte Tue, Sep 18, 2012 9:40:03pm |
Michelle Malkin needs a calming drink. She's overdosing on vituperation.
“There are 47 percent of the people who will vote for the president no matter what,” Romney explained to an audience member who asked how the candidate was going to change the “we’ll take care of you” mentality of Obama voters. “All right, there are 47 percent who are with him, who are dependent upon government, who believe that they are victims, who believe the government has a responsibility to care for them, who believe that they are entitled to health care, to food, to housing, to you-name-it…And they will vote for this president no matter what.”
Romney went out to explain that this portion of voters was comprised of “people who pay no income tax…I’ll never convince them they should take personal responsibility and care for their lives.”
He’s talking, of course, about the Peggy the Moochers and Henrietta Hugheses of the world – savior-based Obama supporters for whom the cult of personality trumps all else. He’s talking about the Sandra Flukes and Julias of the world – Nanny State grievance-mongers who have been spoon-fed identity politics and victim Olympics from preschool through grad school and beyond. And he’s talking about the encrusted entitlement clientele who range from the Section 8 housing mob in Atlanta that caused a near-riot to the irresponsible debt-ridden homeowners who mortgaged themselves into oblivion and want their bailout now, now, now.
219 | Mich-again Tue, Sep 18, 2012 9:40:29pm |
Wading through RSM's blog is a hoot.
. How many of the purported Republicans and/or conservatives that have been pronouncing Romney a sure loser in the last three weeks are among those that, during the primaries, said the GOP had to nominate him because he was the only one who could win?
Of those, how many have close ties to Jeb Bush?
If Jeb ever wants to be President, Romney needs to lose this election.
As Stacy sometimes says, “I’m just askin’ . . .”
hardeharhar!!
220 | JamesWI Tue, Sep 18, 2012 9:41:00pm |
re: #216 freetoken
Well, the Salem Communications outlets are really trumpeting Romney's "47%" statement, claiming not only it is true but that 76% of Americans polled agree with it!
Haha, I think I saw a tweet with a number like that. It was based on a simple online poll featured on CNBC's website (Do you approve of Romney's statement? Yes or no?). Like the polls that always showed Ron Paul was going to crush everyone in every election.
222 | Gus Tue, Sep 18, 2012 9:41:14pm |
223 | HappyWarrior Tue, Sep 18, 2012 9:43:28pm |
re: #218 jaunte
Michelle Malkin needs a calming drink. She's overdosing on vituperation.
Delusion is a hell of a drug.
225 | freetoken Tue, Sep 18, 2012 9:44:43pm |
226 | jaunte Tue, Sep 18, 2012 9:45:56pm |
re: #223 HappyWarrior
Savior-based Nanny-State grievance-mongers spoon-fed identity-politic-victim Olympic-encrusted entitlement-hyphen-wasting-clientele!
227 | HappyWarrior Tue, Sep 18, 2012 9:45:59pm |
re: #225 freetoken
Yup. Townhall headline:
And then watch Townhall try to ignore and dismiss actual polls that have a high number(bet not that high) disagreeing with it.
228 | Targetpractice Tue, Sep 18, 2012 9:46:18pm |
re: #225 freetoken
Yup. Townhall headline:
Alright folks, let's pack it in. An online poll shows the majority of Americans agree with Romney's comment. Time to move on.
///
229 | JamesWI Tue, Sep 18, 2012 9:46:38pm |
re: #225 freetoken
Yup. Townhall headline:
No, the poll isn't scientific, but it is an indication of the media running with a narrative opposite of what the country actually believes...again.
Or it's a sign that wingnuts got the word out that there was a poll on CNBC and rushed to vote. But yeah, your option sounds much more likely....//
(Edit: That blockquote combination makes it look like I'm talking to freetoken when I say "your" .... obviously, I was talking to the Townhall talking-head.)
230 | Varek Raith Tue, Sep 18, 2012 9:47:15pm |
re: #228 Targetpractice
Alright folks, let's pack it in. An online poll shows the majority of Americans agree with Romney's comment. Time to move on.
///
That's what it was?
An online poll?
Well then, congratulation President for Life Ron Paul!
231 | darthstar Tue, Sep 18, 2012 9:47:30pm |
re: #225 freetoken
Yup. Townhall headline:
In 2000, I voted for Pat Buchanan on a CBS online poll 37,000 times in 25 minutes - moving him from 3% to 14%, while driving Bush from 33% down to 25% and Gore from 27% to 34%...then CBS blocked the IP subnet for the company where I was doing a training gig. When I got home that evening, the poll was off their web-site. I considered that a victory over stupid online polls that have no scientific merit.
232 | Petero1818 Tue, Sep 18, 2012 9:49:20pm |
re: #231 darthstar
We should all be voting that we agree with Romney. Let these idiots run with it for a while longer.
233 | HappyWarrior Tue, Sep 18, 2012 9:49:27pm |
Online polls are about who gets to them first. Pretty laughable that Townhall is actually using that to rationalize Mitt's comments. Really as much as I think what Mitt said was shitty, I would be shocked if that same number disapproved of what he said. I expect over 50% to do so but 70%, yeah right.
234 | Pawn of the Oppressor Tue, Sep 18, 2012 9:49:34pm |
re: #194 Varek Raith
Hannity Says Video Of Romney's 47 Percent Remarks "In The End, Will Be Seen As A Godsend" For RomneySure... In the land of raining donuts.
There's that God guy again.
Pretty sure their god of choice told people to give away their stuff? Rich man, eye of a needle, something something?
Come on Mittsie, join us down here among the 47%...
235 | Targetpractice Tue, Sep 18, 2012 9:51:03pm |
re: #234 Pawn of the Oppressor
There's that God guy again.
Pretty sure their god of choice told people to give away their stuff? Rich man, eye of a needle, something something?
Come on Mittsie, join us down here among the 47%...
This is the same God who told most of this year's also-rans to run in the Republican primaries.
I'm pretty sure the guy's either a registered Democrat or just has a sick sense of humor.
236 | HappyWarrior Tue, Sep 18, 2012 9:51:12pm |
re: #230 Varek Raith
That's what it was?
An online poll?
Well then, congratulation Emperor Jesus President Savior for Life Ron Paul!
Fixed with respect :).
237 | JamesWI Tue, Sep 18, 2012 9:51:25pm |
re: #233 HappyWarrior
Online polls are about who gets to them first. Pretty laughable that Townhall is actually using that to rationalize Mitt's comments. Really as much as I think what Mitt said was shitty, I would be shocked if that same number disapproved of what he said. I expect over 50% to do so but 70%, yeah right.
Next they're going to judge how the story is being perceived by counting the "thumbs-up" and "thumbs-down" ratings in Yahoo comment sections. "We know it's not scientific, but obviously it clearly shows that people really do think this"
238 | Gus Tue, Sep 18, 2012 9:52:05pm |
re: #231 darthstar
In 2000, I voted for Pat Buchanan on a CBS online poll 37,000 times in 25 minutes - moving him from 3% to 14%, while driving Bush from 33% down to 25% and Gore from 27% to 34%...then CBS blocked the IP subnet for the company where I was doing a training gig. When I got home that evening, the poll was off their web-site. I considered that a victory over stupid online polls that have no scientific merit.
Fuck you man! Stop making me laugh.
//
239 | HappyWarrior Tue, Sep 18, 2012 9:52:40pm |
re: #237 JamesWI
Next they're going to judge how the story is being perceived by counting the "thumbs-up" and "thumbs-down" ratings in Yahoo comment sections. "We know it's not scientific, but obviously it clearly shows that people really do think this"
Or typing in "Obama sucks" gets more results than "Romney sucks." It's like the Ali G when he thought he could make a gazillion dollars with his ice cream glove.
240 | Gus Tue, Sep 18, 2012 9:53:20pm |
Complete Leaked @mittromney video, via @motherjones & @davidcorndc - NOW on C-SPAN c-span.org/Live-Video/C-S... #cspan2012— CSPAN (@cspan) September 19, 2012
241 | Kragar Tue, Sep 18, 2012 9:54:59pm |
re: #234 Pawn of the Oppressor
There's that God guy again.
Pretty sure their god of choice told people to give away their stuff? Rich man, eye of a needle, something something?
Come on Mittsie, join us down here among the 47%...
If Jesus were to show up, these turds would be too busy making "tase the dirty hippie" jokes to notice.
242 | HappyWarrior Tue, Sep 18, 2012 9:55:52pm |
re: #241 Kragar
If Jesus were to show up, these turds would be too busy making "tase the dirty hippie" jokes to notice.
"Shave that beard and cut that hair hippie!"
243 | William Barnett-Lewis Tue, Sep 18, 2012 9:56:03pm |
re: #235 Targetpractice
This is the same God who told most of this year's also-rans to run in the Republican primaries.
I'm pretty sure the guy's either a registered Democrat or just has a sick sense of humor.
"I don't want to start any blasphemous rumours
But I think that God's got a sick sense of humor
And when I die I expect to find Him laughing"
244 | Gus Tue, Sep 18, 2012 9:56:39pm |
I believe in a one state solution. Israelis and Palestinian living together in peace. But I know that dream won't come true.
245 | Reverend Mother Ramallo Tue, Sep 18, 2012 9:57:08pm |
re: #239 HappyWarrior
Or typing in "Obama sucks" gets more results than "Romney sucks." It's like the Ali G when he thought he could make a gazillion dollars with his ice cream glove.
Heh...
I remember when Ali G almost got punched in the face by Buzz Aldrin.
He kept calling him Buzz Lightyear.
247 | darthstar Tue, Sep 18, 2012 9:57:40pm |
re: #238 Gus
Fuck you man! Stop making me laugh.
//
Speaking of scientific polls...remember this one?
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]
248 | HappyWarrior Tue, Sep 18, 2012 9:57:50pm |
re: #245 Reverend Mother Ramallo
Heh...
I remember when Ali G almost got punched in the face by Buzz Aldrin.
He kept calling him Buzz Lightyear.
He also asked him if it was true that some people deny that there's a moon at all. By the way the ice cream glove episode also had Donald Trump in it. Brief appearance.
249 | Petero1818 Tue, Sep 18, 2012 9:58:10pm |
interesting piece here: [Link: www.theatlantic.com...]
250 | Gus Tue, Sep 18, 2012 9:58:37pm |
re: #247 darthstar
Speaking of scientific polls...remember this one?
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]
Heck no!
251 | darthstar Tue, Sep 18, 2012 9:58:40pm |
re: #238 Gus
Fuck you man! Stop making me laugh.
//
All I had to do was suppress images and do HTTP Posts with 25 virtual users. It was quite simple...and fun.
252 | Shiplord Kirel Tue, Sep 18, 2012 9:59:10pm |
re: #215 Pawn of the Oppressor
Man, f that ethanol business... Growing food to power cars... Sick, stupid stuff, and it screws motorcyclists big-time, if true. My bike's tank is about four gallons *total*, typical fill-up is about two gallons for me... So if I try to be more efficient by commuting on my 50+mpg bike, I get kicked by the corn gas people?
I don't know how they think they can get away with this crap.
NO FOOD FOR OIL!
253 | MittDoesNotCompute Tue, Sep 18, 2012 9:59:17pm |
re: #241 Kragar
If Jesus were to show up, these turds would be too busy making "tase the dirty hippie" jokes to notice.
Nah...since Jesus was most likely a dark-skinned Middle Eastern man (and not a blond-haired, blue-eyed white dude), they'd want to throw him into Gitmo for looking like a Muslim terrorist.
254 | Targetpractice Tue, Sep 18, 2012 10:00:12pm |
re: #247 darthstar
Speaking of scientific polls...remember this one?
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]
Totally biased! There's no choice for Ron Paul there!!!
///
255 | Pawn of the Oppressor Tue, Sep 18, 2012 10:00:22pm |
re: #241 Kragar
If Jesus were to show up, these turds would be too busy making "tase the dirty hippie" jokes to notice.
Now understanding that I'm an atheist and I don't believe a word of the supernatural business in the Christian Bible or any other... although I have been re-reading the New Testament lately***... If I'm going to imagine Jesus as the person described by the Gospels, most particularly Matthew and Mark, I'm pretty sure he'd have ended up on the receiving end of a police beat-down at the RNC, and the usual suspects would be tweeting about how he was asking for it because of what he was wearing.
I think Mitt and the GOP in general are the kind of people that J-man was generally philosophically hostile towards. Cloistered, rich, arrogant, and uncaring.
*** I'm so sick of these people walking around with crosses on their chest like it entitles them to my vote, I had to go back and re-read just to see what they claim to be endorsing. To me the Gospels seem to have multiple Jesus-es in them, each with a different personality and theme, but there's one in particular who I really, really don't believe would have approved of the Republican party in general...
257 | Targetpractice Tue, Sep 18, 2012 10:04:49pm |
re: #255 Pawn of the Oppressor
Now understanding that I'm an atheist and I don't believe a word of the supernatural business in the Christian Bible or any other... although I have been re-reading the New Testament lately... If I'm going to imagine Jesus as the person described by the Gospels, most particularly Matthew and Mark, I'm pretty sure he'd have ended up on the receiving end of a police beat-down at the RNC, and the usual suspects would be tweeting about how he was asking for it because of what he was wearing.
I think Mitt and the GOP in general are the kind of people that J-man was generally philosophically hostile towards. Cloistered, rich, arrogant, and uncaring.
"Liberal Activist Tries to Rush Stage at Republican Convention: Reported As Calling For 'Money-Changers' to Be Cast Out."
258 | palomino Tue, Sep 18, 2012 10:04:53pm |
If other recent presidents haven't succeeded in uniting Americans, how the hell will the Romney have a hope in hell of doing such a thing?
His remarks betray a contempt for people who he, wrongly in most cases, think have no personal responsibility. And he's lumped in the working poor, elderly, college students, even the working class that does pay fed taxes (payroll) into one giant group of leeches living off the hard work of people like himself. How does a guy who dismisses half the country claim the ability to represent all its people?
Scariest of all he still may win; he shouldn't of course, but if he can convince enough RW identity voters that he's "one of them," there's certainly still a shot.
259 | Pawn of the Oppressor Tue, Sep 18, 2012 10:07:23pm |
re: #257 Targetpractice
"Liberal Activist Tries to Rush Stage at Republican Convention: Reported As Calling For 'Money-Changers' to Be Cast Out."
"JEWISH LEFTIST DISRUPTS ROMNEY SPEECH: 'Jesus' seen meeting with tax officials before convention, may be Obama administration plant"
260 | Gus Tue, Sep 18, 2012 10:08:03pm |
Wait a minute. Romney says, "government should give it to them." Damn. He's all over the place. Romney's a freak.
261 | Petero1818 Tue, Sep 18, 2012 10:09:45pm |
re: #258 palomino
somehow yesterdays gallup have them one point apart. Not sure how that is possible.
262 | freetoken Tue, Sep 18, 2012 10:10:13pm |
re: #256 Gus
Damn. Romney's a shallow man.
Many of us were really turned off by him in 2008, and he's spent 4 years digging in even deeper into the "shallowness" pond.
264 | JamesWI Tue, Sep 18, 2012 10:11:08pm |
re: #249 Petero1818
interesting piece here: [Link: www.theatlantic.com...]
"Ramesh Ponnuru"??? With a name like that, he must not be 'Murican! Why would Romney listen to this foreign RINO?"
265 | Mocking Jay Tue, Sep 18, 2012 10:12:28pm |
re: #145 Gus
LOL
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I still don't understand how Jenna Jameson can support Mr. Anti-porn. It's like Gays for Santorum.
266 | Gus Tue, Sep 18, 2012 10:12:42pm |
re: #262 freetoken
Many of us were really turned off by him in 2008, and he's spent 4 years digging in even deeper into the "shallowness" pond.
These people are scum. Mitt Romney is a scumbag.
267 | Targetpractice Tue, Sep 18, 2012 10:12:58pm |
re: #259 Pawn of the Oppressor
"JEWISH LEFTIST DISRUPTS ROMNEY SPEECH: 'Jesus' seen meeting with tax officials before convention, may be Obama administration plant"
"Convention Disruptor Admitted 'Big Government' Supporter: Tells Listeners 'Render Unto Caesar That Which Is Caesar's.'"
268 | Gus Tue, Sep 18, 2012 10:13:00pm |
re: #265 Mocking Jay
I still don't understand how Jenna Jameson can support Mr. Anti-porn. It's like Gays for Santorum.
She's an idiot.
269 | HappyWarrior Tue, Sep 18, 2012 10:13:12pm |
re: #265 Mocking Jay
I still don't understand how Jenna Jameson can support Mr. Anti-porn. It's like Gays for Santorum.
$$$$ but yeah.
270 | prairiefire Tue, Sep 18, 2012 10:13:18pm |
271 | JamesWI Tue, Sep 18, 2012 10:13:54pm |
re: #261 Petero1818
somehow yesterdays gallup have them one point apart. Not sure how that is possible.
Because it's a (I believe) seven day tracking poll. Meaning the events of the previous day have little-to-nothing to do with the results of the next day's poll.
For example, right after the DNC, all the tracking polls were still showing a close Obama lead or a slight Romney lead. After a few days, the polls caught up to the convention.
In this case, the Gallup poll is showing the heat from Romney's Libya fuckup dying down in the day or two before the video came out.
272 | engineer cat Tue, Sep 18, 2012 10:15:16pm |
re: #5 HappyWarrior
I can't wait for the book and movie.
this will be sure to be one of the best selling inside the campaign books ever
remember how popular disaster movies used to be?
273 | MittDoesNotCompute Tue, Sep 18, 2012 10:16:27pm |
re: #272 engineer cat
this will be sure to be one of the best selling inside the campaign books ever
remember how popular disaster movies used to be?
Romney 2012
/I wonder if we can get George Kennedy
274 | Petero1818 Tue, Sep 18, 2012 10:17:15pm |
re: #271 JamesWI
Because it's a (I believe) seven day tracking poll. Meaning the events of the previous day have little-to-nothing to do with the results of the next day's poll.
For example, right after the DNC, all the tracking polls were still showing a close Obama lead or a slight Romney lead. After a few days, the polls caught up to the convention.
In this case, the Gallup poll is showing the heat from Romney's Libya fuckup dying down in the day or two before the video came out.
But the Egypt/Libya stuff should have shown up and I would have thought it would have also had an impact.
275 | Reverend Mother Ramallo Tue, Sep 18, 2012 10:17:25pm |
1)pays little or no taxes
2) takes no personal responsibility
3)cries victim for perceived injustice
Sounds an awful lot like Mitt to me.
276 | Lidane Tue, Sep 18, 2012 10:18:51pm |
re: #249 Petero1818
interesting piece here: [Link: www.theatlantic.com...]
Related:
My article from last fall on why Republicans are wrong about the 47%--and self-defeating too. nationalreview.com/articles/28326...— Ramesh Ponnuru (@RameshPonnuru) September 17, 2012
New @bloombergview column: "Dependency" isn't the reason Obama's ahead. bloomberg.com/news/2012-09-1...— Ramesh Ponnuru (@RameshPonnuru) September 17, 2012
Responding to a critic, I point out that Ds improved their vote share most among people who make 100K+ from 04 to 08. nationalreview.com/corner/322862/...— Ramesh Ponnuru (@RameshPonnuru) September 18, 2012
Once more on low-income voters and the "dependency" theory: nationalreview.com/corner/326316/...— Ramesh Ponnuru (@RameshPonnuru) September 18, 2012
277 | Targetpractice Tue, Sep 18, 2012 10:19:35pm |
re: #274 Petero1818
But the Egypt/Libya stuff should have shown up and I would have thought it would have also had an impact.
Very likely did. And let's be honest, as much as we liked how Obama and Clinton handled the whole crisis, there's a lot of folks in the electorate who saw differently. They may not have agreed with Willard, but that don't necessarily mean they thought Obama blameless.
278 | freetoken Tue, Sep 18, 2012 10:20:24pm |
279 | dragonath Tue, Sep 18, 2012 10:20:39pm |
"If somebody is dumb enough to ask me to go to political convention and say something, they're gonna have to take what they get."-- Clint Eastwood, quoted by TMZ, responding to criticisms of his speech at the Republican convention.
This is a weird campaign season.
280 | JamesWI Tue, Sep 18, 2012 10:21:27pm |
re: #274 Petero1818
But the Egypt/Libya stuff should have shown up and I would have thought it would have also had an impact.
It did. The convention bounce had basically every poll up around +5 to +7 range for Obama. Then it started to die down a bit and he lost a couple points. Then Romney stuck his foot in his mouth (Sept. 12th) and the polls jumped back up (except for Rasmussen, of course). Then the heat from his fuckup started to die down in the couple days before the video came out, so the polls dropped back down a couple points.
I'm guessing tomorrow will start to see a little bit of 47% creeping into the polls, but it will probably be Thursday, Friday, or Saturday before we can really see how big it was.
281 | engineer cat Tue, Sep 18, 2012 10:22:02pm |
how bad is it going to get in the last few weeks?
Romney Regrets Wording Of "Servant Class" Remark
Romney Says Praise For Hitler "Taken Out Of Context"
Romney Says Remarks Describing Obama As "Reptilian Invader" Merely A Figure Of Speech
283 | SanFranciscoZionist Tue, Sep 18, 2012 10:22:45pm |
re: #265 Mocking Jay
I still don't understand how Jenna Jameson can support Mr. Anti-porn. It's like Gays for Santorum.
My husband is pretty sure she's trolling him.
284 | Petero1818 Tue, Sep 18, 2012 10:24:44pm |
re: #276 Lidane
Related:
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Dude may want to switch parties. As Santorum pointed out there really is no place in the GOP for "smart" folks.
285 | darthstar Tue, Sep 18, 2012 10:26:42pm |
#MoneyBooBoo - fucking priceless.
"RT @tbogg: Someone on my blog just referred to Mitt Romney as Money Boo Boo. I got nothin' that'll top that. #MoneyBooBoo #47percent— Phil Davis (@PhilDavisNYC) September 18, 2012
286 | darthstar Tue, Sep 18, 2012 10:27:10pm |
287 | darthstar Tue, Sep 18, 2012 10:28:01pm |
The tears RT @frucheman: RT @azureghost: "Oh, so you want healthcare...?" Condescending #Mitt: twitpic.com/aw4dqt #MoneyBooBoo— Solo(@_SoloDovePR) September 19, 2012
288 | Kragar Tue, Sep 18, 2012 10:29:32pm |
289 | Reverend Mother Ramallo Tue, Sep 18, 2012 10:31:22pm |
re: #284 Petero1818
Dude may want to switch parties. As Santorum pointed out there really is no place in the GOP for "smart" folks.
Santorum says GOP constituents are dumb...
Money Boo Boo (that's a keeper) says Dems are moochers...
Those two sure know how to show the voters respect.
//
290 | dragonath Tue, Sep 18, 2012 10:35:53pm |
Love how establishment Republicans are trying to walk back the cultural shame tactics that crawled their way to the top of the conversation. It's like trying to attract bees to muriatic acid.
291 | Reverend Mother Ramallo Tue, Sep 18, 2012 10:36:04pm |
Well.
Busy day getting out the vote tomorrow so have a good night everyone.
292 | engineer cat Tue, Sep 18, 2012 10:36:25pm |
re: #274 Petero1818
But the Egypt/Libya stuff should have shown up and I would have thought it would have also had an impact.
gallup had obama down by a point for a week before the republican convention. they've been giving obama a low margin all along
293 | Targetpractice Tue, Sep 18, 2012 10:39:28pm |
re: #290 dragonath
Love how establishment Republicans are trying to walk back the cultural shame tactics that crawled their way to the top of the conversation. It's like trying to attract bees to muriatic acid.
Meanwhile, the wingnuts are screaming bloody murder at such attempts to walk-back and declaring that the GOP should be pushing this shit, not running away from it.
294 | austin_blue Tue, Sep 18, 2012 10:40:23pm |
re: #160 Gert Fröbe
Something very primal and bowel-shaking about the sound of a B-52 flying at you, then away from you.
Couldn't see the Reg # on it, but I flew a bunch of H-models and may have had time in that plane. But that was just a go-around.
Wait until you see one, gear and flaps up at 500' and coming at you at 480 knots when the bomb doors open...
I have become death, the destroyer of worlds.
Oh, and Mittenz is a complete putz.
296 | engineer cat Tue, Sep 18, 2012 10:44:05pm |
latest romney campaign tactic: "democrats voting for romney"
the text of these resemble comments of concern trolls, from which they were probably cribbed
297 | Big Joe Tue, Sep 18, 2012 10:44:43pm |
re: #241 Kragar
If Jesus were to show up, these turds would be too busy making "tase the dirty hippie" jokes to notice.
Oh, speaking of tase the dirty hippie, have you seen tase the soverign citizen? Warning, long video, you can click ahead through it till 3:00 minutes.
298 | Targetpractice Tue, Sep 18, 2012 10:44:52pm |
299 | freetoken Tue, Sep 18, 2012 10:46:48pm |
Alpha Natural closing 8 coal mines in the East
Coal producer Alpha Natural Resources said Tuesday it was cutting production by 16 million tons and eliminating 1,200 jobs companywide, laying off 400 workers immediately by closing mines in Virginia, West Virginia and Pennsylvania.
[...]
Company spokesman Ted Pile said most of the displaced workers may eventually be rehired, either assigned to new jobs in other locations or replacing outside contractors. Only 150 workers in West Virginia and three in Pennsylvania will not have any other employment opportunities with the company, he said.
[...]
Crutchfield said the shutdowns and layoffs are a necessary part of ensuring Alpha survives in what has become a difficult U.S. market, where coal companies face a dual challenge: Power plants are shifting to cheap, abundant natural gas, while companies like his face "a regulatory environment that's aggressively aimed at constraining the use of coal."
[...]
Politicians -- mostly Republican -- across the coalfields were quick to pounce on the announcement as further evidence that President Barack Obama's administration is waging a "war on coal" through new air-pollution standards, but many U.S. power companies have long planned to close or convert some of their aging, inefficient coal-fired plants.
"A group of government bureaucrats have decided the coal industry isn't something that they like, so they're going to try to force it out of business," said U.S. Rep. Morgan Griffith, R-Va. "This is appalling, and it must stop."
It's things like this that can still lead to Romney winning. Ultimately, Romney's indifference to the masses isn't as important as figuring out how to channel the frustrations of the masses to vote for a completely fictitious entity.
300 | Kragar Tue, Sep 18, 2012 10:47:22pm |
Romney Apologizes To Nation's 150 Million 'Starving, Filthy Beggars'
Saying that he deeply regretted his choice of words at a private $50,000-a-plate fundraising function in May—during which he argued “[his] job is not to worry” about the lower-earning half of the nation’s populace—Romney personally appealed to the country’s “dirt-caked garbage pickers and toothless street urchins” for forgiveness.
“First and foremost, I would like to offer a heartfelt apology to all the whores, junkies, bums, and grime-covered derelicts out there who make up nearly half our nation,” a visibly contrite and solemn Romney said outside a campaign stop at a local high school. “Let me assure you that I in no way meant to offend any of the putrid-smelling, barefoot masses out there. My campaign is not about dividing this nation, but about bringing all sides together—the rich, elegant members of the upper class, as well as the 47 percent who are covered in flies and eat directly from back-alley dumpsters.”
“I am fully committed to building a better future for every American,” Romney continued, “and that means ensuring all 150 million grease-and-urine-soaked members of our society get a fair shake.”
The Romney campaign reportedly scrambled into damage-control mode after the video leaked Monday, issuing a statement late last night stating that the intended target of Romney’s remarks was ingrained big-government largesse, not the “hordes of uneducated, loathsome scum who unfortunately populate this country.”
301 | freetoken Tue, Sep 18, 2012 10:48:35pm |
302 | Kragar Tue, Sep 18, 2012 10:49:35pm |
Romney Campaign Sends In Champion Of The Poor Paul Ryan For Damage Control
According to sources, Romney’s advisers have dispatched the modern-day Robin Hood to speak to voters in the most economically downtrodden regions of the country, where thousands of working-class Americans are already lining up outside the venues of Ryan’s upcoming rallies to don T-shirts and wave handmade signs in support of the selfless guardian of the poverty-stricken.
“Paul Ryan sticks up for us when no one else will, everyone knows that,” said 49-year-old unemployed construction worker Vernon Fletcher, calling Ryan a true beacon of hope for the nation’s impoverished. “He’s in it to the last round, fighting tooth and nail for every struggling, blue-collar man and woman in America. He’s done it time and time again, and he’s done it again today.”
“Obviously, I have my reservations about Romney, especially after he basically labeled me as a government-dependent freeloader,” Fletcher continued. “But Paul Ryan—that guy definitely has our back.”
Across the country, millions of the nation’s poorest citizens were reportedly elated at the sight of the celebrated scourge of privilege and greed emerging to once more take up their cause, inspiring the needy with his words of comfort and support and his famously common touch.
303 | MittDoesNotCompute Tue, Sep 18, 2012 10:57:47pm |
re: #294 austin_blue
Couldn't see the Reg # on it, but I flew a bunch of H-models and may have had time in that plane. But that was just a go-around.
Wait until you see one, gear and flaps up at 500' and coming at you at 480 knots when the bomb doors open...
I have become death, the destroyer of worlds.Oh, and Mittenz is a complete putz.
Wassup, Major Kong?
///
304 | Targetpractice Tue, Sep 18, 2012 10:58:38pm |
re: #299 freetoken
Alpha Natural closing 8 coal mines in the East
It's things like this that can still lead to Romney winning. Ultimately, Romney's indifference to the masses isn't as important as figuring out how to channel the frustrations of the masses to vote for a completely fictitious entity.
Thing is, I'm okay with a "war on coal." The sooner we get off it, the sooner we start making a big step towards tackling AGW.
305 | JamesWI Tue, Sep 18, 2012 11:07:04pm |
Good comment I just saw in the comment sections on an Atlantic story:
Why is it that when a rich person like Romney pays few or no taxes, conservatives defend him as simply using the tax laws to his advantage? Remember, he got a deduction for his wife's horse.....
But when poor people pay few or no taxes through deductions for things like
children or medical care, they are called free loaders?
306 | freetoken Tue, Sep 18, 2012 11:08:06pm |
re: #305 JamesWI
Because rich people are supposed to be rich because God is rewarding them.
So there.
307 | Shiplord Kirel Tue, Sep 18, 2012 11:15:36pm |
re: #300 Kragar
Romney Apologizes To Nation's 150 Million 'Starving, Filthy Beggars'
That is one of the funniest things Onion has ever produced, which is saying a lot. “'Snaggle-toothed street people' and 'hell-spawned savages'” was my favorite. Like any really funny satire there is a strong element of truth in it. Many wingnuts and money grubbers only see someone to whom they can feel superior, rather than someone who wasn't so fortunate.
I've worked hard all my life and I am said to have a certain degree of innate talent, but I never forget that dumb luck and government programs like the GI Bill have been big factors in my success.
308 | Shiplord Kirel Tue, Sep 18, 2012 11:23:52pm |
If you'll excuse me for mentioning the robber-baron car that resides in my garage, I think I know how to make a point about government programs. I am going to find out if I can get "GI BILL" vanity plates for my Rolls-Royce. The term itself is undoubtedly taken but a combination with a 2 digit number should be available. Some nitwit would probably take it to mean that my name is Bill, but at least some will get it.
309 | Kragar Tue, Sep 18, 2012 11:24:48pm |
French Mag to Publish Cartoons of Prophet Mohammed
The magazine "Charlie Hebdo" has confirmed that it will publish the cartoons, but has not revealed what they will depict. French newspaper "Le Monde" reports that some of the cartoons show the prophet in "particularly explicit poses," without providing any further detail.
The move comes as Muslims are still simmering after riots in Egypt, Libya, Tunisia and nearly 20 other countries over the move "Innocence of Muslims." U.S. Ambassador Christopher Stevens and three other Americans died during an attack on the U.S. consulate in Benghazi, Libya.
French government ministers have criticized the magazine's decision and police in Paris have stepped up security around its offices.
311 | austin_blue Tue, Sep 18, 2012 11:31:11pm |
312 | Shiplord Kirel Tue, Sep 18, 2012 11:36:37pm |
314 | Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You Wed, Sep 19, 2012 12:10:07am |
The best job in the world?
(A very clever way to do a male breast cancer awareness spot)
315 | Kragar Wed, Sep 19, 2012 12:11:33am |
re: #314 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You
The best job in the world?
[Embedded content]
(A very clever way to do a male breast cancer awareness spot)
That guy is funny as hell on IT Crowd.
317 | darthstar Wed, Sep 19, 2012 12:27:15am |
Really enjoying Obama's interview on the Late Show with David Letterman. Such a calm speaker, and Dave's asked more hardball questions than Mitt Romney has faced in the last year.
318 | Targetpractice Wed, Sep 19, 2012 12:37:34am |
Another poll the wingnuts will no doubt accuse of being inaccurate:
Poll: Obama job approval rising, race still tight
WASHINGTON (AP) — Americans are feeling markedly better about the country's future and about Barack Obama's job performance, but the president's re-election race against Republican Mitt Romney remains a neck-and-neck proposition as Election Day creeps ever closer, according to a new Associated Press-GfK poll.
Buoyed by good mojo coming out of last month's national political conventions, Obama's approval rating is back above 50 percent for the first time since May, and the share of Americans who think the country is moving in the right direction is at its highest level since just after the death of Osama bin Laden in May 2011.
Romney, his campaign knocked off-stride in recent weeks, has lost his pre-convention edge on the top issue of the campaign — the economy.
But, like with most good news, it's tempered with a dose of reality:
The poll results vividly underscore the importance that turnout will play in determining the victor in Campaign 2012: Among all adults, Obama has a commanding lead, favored by 52 percent of Americans to just 37 percent for Romney. Yet among those most likely to vote, the race is drum tight.
Obama is supported by 47 percent of likely voters and Romney by 46 percent, promising an all-out fight to the finish by the two campaigns to gin up enthusiasm among core supporters and dominate get-out-the-vote operations. That's an area where Obama claimed a strong advantage in 2008 and Republicans reigned four years earlier.
It can't be emphasized enough, this election's gonna come down to which side can motivate enough people to the polls and that's why, if you can, get out there and beat the bushes to get anybody you know who's even on the fence about voting this year to the voting booth.
320 | Decatur Deb Wed, Sep 19, 2012 12:43:52am |
re: #318 Targetpractice
Scheduling our second GOTV foray into Florida. Gray-haired old commies have a few advantages.
321 | Kragar Wed, Sep 19, 2012 1:17:29am |
Romney Campaign Borrowed $20 Million
Before the Republican National Convention, Mitt Romney was the Republican nominee in all but name. By law, however, he could only spend primary donations until he officially became nominee. To increase cash flow during the interregnum, the Romney campaign borrowed $20 million.
“We realized that we could collateralize this debt with $20 million of general-election funds that were already sitting in our bank account,” a senior Romney aide says, speaking exclusively with National Review Online.
“This is permitted by Federal Election Commission rules,” the aide explains. “In the past, the FEC has specifically contemplated candidates putting up their public financing payments as collateral.” Since Romney is not taking public funds, his finance team found another option.
323 | Decatur Deb Wed, Sep 19, 2012 1:22:46am |
re: #321 Kragar
In Romney's world, moving money from one pocket to another is called "productive work".
324 | researchok Wed, Sep 19, 2012 1:25:54am |
re: #310 freetoken
This stuff really grows on you.
It's just...different in Japanese.
I recall you once said when you don't understand the lyrics, you focus more on the music.
Absolutely true.
325 | terraincognita Wed, Sep 19, 2012 2:15:51am |
The social malady that inhabits Romney's spirit has been elucidated upon over two thousand years ago by Horace, Roman poet in Sermones
Why do you look so sharp on others' ills,
Malignant man, yet overlook your own?
328 | AK-47% Wed, Sep 19, 2012 3:33:37am |
Alaska to Pay Residents Smallest Oil Trust Dividend since 2005
Excellent! Let's start getting them weaned off of government dependency!!!
329 | Varek Raith Wed, Sep 19, 2012 3:47:14am |
If somebody is dumb enough to ask me to go to political convention and say something, they're gonna have to take what they get.
- Clint Eastwood.
Trollololol much?
XD
330 | Shropshire_Slasher Wed, Sep 19, 2012 3:58:18am |
Three wet pussies
[Link: www.timesunion.com...]
The one on the left I think is a gremlin.
332 | sagehen Wed, Sep 19, 2012 4:10:49am |
re: #330 Tommy's cone of shame
Three wet pussies
[Link: www.timesunion.com...]
The one on the left I think is a gremlin.
How low must the crime rate be in that town for "kittens abandoned, left on sidewalk in laundry basket" to be considered newsworthy?
333 | Cannadian Club Akbar Wed, Sep 19, 2012 4:12:26am |
Florida Farmhand Busted For Lewd Donkey Show
[Link: www.thesmokinggun.com...]
Just look at the smile on this guys face.
334 | Varek Raith Wed, Sep 19, 2012 4:16:01am |
re: #333 Cannadian Club Akbar
Florida Farmhand Busted For Lewd Donkey Show
[Link: www.thesmokinggun.com...]Just look at the smile on this guys face.
No, no.
Just. No.
335 | AK-47% Wed, Sep 19, 2012 4:18:53am |
re: #333 Cannadian Club Akbar
Florida Farmhand Busted For Lewd Donkey Show
[Link: www.thesmokinggun.com...]Just look at the smile on this guys face.
Proof of what gay marriage can lead to!
336 | Cannadian Club Akbar Wed, Sep 19, 2012 4:19:55am |
337 | AK-47% Wed, Sep 19, 2012 4:21:25am |
Well, I can also state that I haven't had sex in a donkey's....
338 | BongCrodny Wed, Sep 19, 2012 4:22:38am |
re: #333 Cannadian Club Akbar
Florida Farmhand Busted For Lewd Donkey Show
[Link: www.thesmokinggun.com...]Just look at the smile on this guys face.
If we're gonna be honest here, that donkey looks pretty happy, too.
339 | Cannadian Club Akbar Wed, Sep 19, 2012 4:22:49am |
What could possibly go wrong?
[Link: abcnews.go.com...]
340 | Cannadian Club Akbar Wed, Sep 19, 2012 4:24:02am |
re: #338 BongCrodny
If we're gonna be honest here, that donkey looks pretty happy, too.
I thought that putting the black out stripe over the donkey's eyes was a nice touch.
341 | BongCrodny Wed, Sep 19, 2012 4:26:02am |
re: #333 Cannadian Club Akbar
Florida Farmhand Busted For Lewd Donkey Show
[Link: www.thesmokinggun.com...]Just look at the smile on this guys face.
...and I had to give some serious thought to whether I even dared to upding you for this.
342 | Our Precious Bodily Fluids Wed, Sep 19, 2012 4:29:00am |
re: #333 Cannadian Club Akbar
Florida Farmhand Busted For Lewd Donkey Show
[Link: www.thesmokinggun.com...]Just look at the smile on this guys face.
Before I even clicked the link, I assumed it would be a story out of Florida. Sure enough...
343 | BongCrodny Wed, Sep 19, 2012 4:31:16am |
re: #302 Kragar
Romney Campaign Sends In Champion Of The Poor Paul Ryan For Damage Control
That's like sending in the Marines to break up a fight among sailors.
344 | Cannadian Club Akbar Wed, Sep 19, 2012 4:35:24am |
re: #339 Cannadian Club Akbar
What could possibly go wrong?
[Link: abcnews.go.com...]
France to close embassies in fear of cartoon backlash
France announced Wednesday it will close 20 embassies across the Muslim world on Friday after French weekly Charlie Hebdo published cartoons of the Prophet Mohammed naked, amid growing unrest over an anti-Islamic film that has left dozens dead.
[Link: www.france24.com...]
345 | BongCrodny Wed, Sep 19, 2012 4:36:12am |
re: #261 Petero1818
somehow yesterdays gallup have them one point apart. Not sure how that is possible.
That's kind of scaring me a bit, too. It seems to take non-stop fuck-ups by Romney to keep Obama in the lead.
346 | AK-47% Wed, Sep 19, 2012 4:47:35am |
re: #339 Cannadian Club Akbar
What could possibly go wrong?
[Link: abcnews.go.com...]
again - we are dealing with politically and socially backwards parts of the world in which the uneducated massess assume that anything published, broadcast or distributed must have the government's approval.
and in which the educated masses know better but are happy to use the situation to stir up the masses.
but regardless of the consequences, we cannot start curtailing freedom of speech just because it might be used as a means for educated cynics to rile up uneducated fundamentalists...
347 | Kronocide Wed, Sep 19, 2012 4:55:20am |
re: #346 Expand Your Ground
again - we are dealing with politically and socially backwards parts of the world in which the uneducated massess assume that anything published, broadcast or distributed must have the government's approval.
and in which the educated masses know better but are happy to use the situation to stir up the masses.
but regardless of the consequences, we cannot start curtailing freedom of speech just because it might be used as a means for educated cynics to rile up uneducated fundamentalists...
You mean like right wing media does to the backwards uneducated masses in the US?
On the way home last night, AM radio (John Batchelor show), Victor Davis Hansen was basically going full metal wingnut: US looks weak, Obama blames Bush, we should not apologize for shit and plant 3 aircraft carrier groups in the ME.
348 | AK-47% Wed, Sep 19, 2012 5:06:20am |
re: #347 Kronocide
You mean like right wing media does to the backwards uneducated masses in the US?
On the way home last night, AM radio (John Batchelor show), Victor Davis Hansen was basically going full metal wingnut: US looks weak, Obama blames Bush, we should not apologize for shit and plant 3 aircraft carrier groups in the ME.
the main difference being that the undereducated masses in the USA have not risen up in arms (yet).
349 | Kronocide Wed, Sep 19, 2012 5:07:21am |
The irony is astounding. Wingnuts make Religion of Peace jokes about Muslims getting outraged over a cartoon, but themselves are played just as easily as said outraged Muslims.
350 | Decatur Deb Wed, Sep 19, 2012 5:16:42am |
re: #333 Cannadian Club Akbar
Florida Farmhand Busted For Lewd Donkey Show
[Link: www.thesmokinggun.com...]Just look at the smile on this guys face.
Props to the report for protecting the donkey's privacy.
351 | Kronocide Wed, Sep 19, 2012 5:18:40am |
Nothing like a good campaign of false equivalence to cover for Romney.
Let’s face it: neither candidate in this race can be trusted to deliver a good unscripted pitch for their tax plan.
Back in July, while he was making the case for higher taxes on small businesses, President Obama famously told a rally in Roanoke, Virginia, “If you’ve got a business — you didn’t build that. Somebody else made that happen.”
Now Romney has his own tax related gaffe. In a video secretly recorded at a fundraiser in May, and just released Monday, Romney said:
They're desperate.
352 | Cannadian Club Akbar Wed, Sep 19, 2012 5:21:13am |
Prosecutors: Chef Told Police He Cooked Wife
In a taped interviewed played in court Tuesday, a Southern California chef on trial for allegedly killing his wife told police he slow cooked her body then dumped it out as kitchen waste.
[Link: www.nbclosangeles.com...]
I slow cook pork.
353 | Kronocide Wed, Sep 19, 2012 5:24:48am |
Romney campaign's most recent press release:
48 days remain until Election Day. As the choice voters face comes into greater focus, the different visions that Mitt Romney and Barack Obama have for America are becoming more sharply defined.
Mitt Romney’s vision for America is an opportunity society, where free people and free enterprise thrive and success is admired and emulated, not attacked. President Obama’s vision for America is a government-centered society, where government grows bigger and more active, occupying more of our everyday lives.
In a newly-unearthed set of remarks, we can hear Barack Obama in his own words advocating for government as a means to redistribute wealth:
“[T]he trick is figuring out how do we structure government systems that pool resources and hence facilitate some redistribution because I actually believe in redistribution, at least at a certain level to make sure everybody’s got a shot.”
Mitt Romney has a very different idea. He knows that we need to foster growth and create wealth, not redistribute wealth, if our economy is to grow the way it has in the past.
Nothing like a faux controversy to help make the case for leadership.
355 | AK-47% Wed, Sep 19, 2012 5:29:04am |
re: #353 Kronocide
Just because Obama has not confiscated and redistributed wealth during his first term is no indication he won't set about it with a vengeance during his second. Ditto goes for guns and ammo...
356 | dragonath Wed, Sep 19, 2012 5:29:23am |
[Link: www.washingtonpost.com...]
“Some believe that government should take from some to give to the others. I think the president makes it clear in the tape that was released today that that’s what he believes. I think that’s an entirely foreign concept."
The president is a ...cough... foreign communist!
357 | AK-47% Wed, Sep 19, 2012 5:32:37am |
Even with the limited quote Romney gives, we hear Obama's reasoning: "to make sure everybody's got a shot", this is not entitlement, it is just ensuring equality of opportunity.
It is quite a stretch to call that "encouraging dependency".
358 | Decatur Deb Wed, Sep 19, 2012 5:32:54am |
re: #354 Cannadian Club Akbar
Thanks--I've got a buddy who gets one email of one word (Aarrgghhh) each year.
359 | Obdicut Wed, Sep 19, 2012 5:34:22am |
re: #356 dragonath
It's such a weird statement. It's basically a declaration of anarchy. I can't believe the GOP has actually become this, the completely anti-government party.
Yes, they should take from me and give it to others. I live a comfortable life. I can pay taxes so that soldiers coming back from war lame can have prosthetics, so that a blind kid can get special education that'll help them in this world, so that poverty-stricken kids can be fed.
That's what society is, that's what civilization is, and I cannot for the life of me figure out what the GOP actually stands for if it doesn't believe that we're all in this together. It really seems like nothing more than anarchy.
361 | Decatur Deb Wed, Sep 19, 2012 5:39:38am |
re: #359 Obdicut
It's such a weird statement. It's basically a declaration of anarchy. I can't believe the GOP has actually become this, the completely anti-government party.
Yes, they should take from me and give it to others. I live a comfortable life. I can pay taxes so that soldiers coming back from war lame can have prosthetics, so that a blind kid can get special education that'll help them in this world, so that poverty-stricken kids can be fed.
That's what society is, that's what civilization is, and I cannot for the life of me figure out what the GOP actually stands for if it doesn't believe that we're all in this together. It really seems like nothing more than anarchy.
"...government isn't the solution to our problem, government is the problem."
--Some dead refrigerator salesman
362 | Obdicut Wed, Sep 19, 2012 5:40:11am |
re: #360 Varek Raith
Avast, ye scurvy dogs!
Pirates did not actually talk that way.
Image: 3929901468_b01941352a.jpg
(If you want to do a real pirate accent, try a Welsh one.)
363 | Cannadian Club Akbar Wed, Sep 19, 2012 5:40:14am |
re: #359 Obdicut
How to Be an Anarchist
[Link: www.wikihow.com...]
364 | AK-47% Wed, Sep 19, 2012 5:40:35am |
re: #359 Obdicut
It's such a weird statement. It's basically a declaration of anarchy. I can't believe the GOP has actually become this, the completely anti-government party.
They seem to have their head stuck in some Jeffersonaian time bubble in which we are all gentlemen farmers who have carved their homesteads out of the wilderness, who are fully self-supporting and self-reliant and who enter into contracts only in our self-interest and not out of need or compulsion.
Except that was an abstract ideal even back in Jefferson's time.
365 | Sheila Broflovski Wed, Sep 19, 2012 5:41:15am |
re: #354 Cannadian Club Akbar
There was some guy who used to post here, who thought every day was "Talk Like A Pirate Day!"
It got to be irritating after a while. You just wanted to keelhaul the scurvy dog.
366 | AK-47% Wed, Sep 19, 2012 5:42:08am |
re: #360 Varek Raith
Avast, ye scurvy dogs!
I have heard that Pirate speak is a product of Hollywood: a character actor in early pirate films made it his trademark and it became in industry standard.
I assume the films were rated Arrrrrrrrrrrgh.
367 | Obdicut Wed, Sep 19, 2012 5:42:38am |
re: #363 Cannadian Club Akbar
Yeah. You'll see in there lots of language about being anti-statist, about fighting the government for freedom, about rejecting the authority of the state. It really meshes very closely with the recent GOP rhetoric. We've even seen disturbing signs like the GOP guy in Ohio who at first tried to defy the courts when he was ordered to extend voting hours in Democratic as well as GOP areas of the state. He got brought to heel, but it was pretty fucking shocking that he thought he could just ignore the courts in the first place.
It's getting bad.
368 | Kronocide Wed, Sep 19, 2012 5:43:29am |
TELLING ! --Audio of President Obama in 1998 - "I actually believe in redistribution"youtube.com/watch?v=ge3aGJ...— Reince Priebus (@Reince) September 18, 2012
369 | AK-47% Wed, Sep 19, 2012 5:43:49am |
re: #367 Obdicut
Count on a massive surge in the "sovereign citizen" movement after Obama is re-elected.
370 | Obdicut Wed, Sep 19, 2012 5:43:53am |
re: #365 Sheila Brovlofski
Gadewch i ni fynd a suddo llongau y Saesneg ac yn dwyn eu trysor!
371 | Varek Raith Wed, Sep 19, 2012 5:43:58am |
372 | Varek Raith Wed, Sep 19, 2012 5:45:07am |
re: #370 Obdicut
Gadewch i ni fynd a suddo llongau y Saesneg ac yn dwyn eu trysor!
Sounds good to me.
375 | Decatur Deb Wed, Sep 19, 2012 5:48:56am |
re: #363 Cannadian Club Akbar
How to Be an Anarchist
[Link: www.wikihow.com...]
Header comment is just flat-out romanticized bullshit:
"Anarchist societies throughout history - including most indigenous societies. Compared to hierarchical authoritarian societies they typically were and are much more stable and afford their members dramatically higher standards of living."
Ten minutes after they find their shaman, 'indigenous' societies select their rabbit boss and war chief.
(Not that a touch of anarchy isn't a nice antidote to uptight pricks.)
376 | Obdicut Wed, Sep 19, 2012 5:50:02am |
re: #373 Varek Raith
Basically, you speak with small pebbles in your mouth while simultaneously playing the flute.
377 | Obdicut Wed, Sep 19, 2012 5:51:36am |
re: #375 Decatur Deb
They also praise the Amish for being anarchists-- deciding to totally ignore the heavy theocratic element, for some reason. Amish are only allowed to marry other Amish; that's not very anarchist.
378 | Decatur Deb Wed, Sep 19, 2012 5:52:28am |
re: #376 Obdicut
Basically, you speak with small pebbles in your mouth while simultaneously playing the flute.
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379 | iossarian Wed, Sep 19, 2012 5:52:36am |
re: #377 Obdicut
They also praise the Amish for being anarchists-- deciding to totally ignore the heavy theocratic element, for some reason. Amish are only allowed to marry other Amish; that's not very anarchist.
Yeah, but the beards, man. The beards.
380 | Varek Raith Wed, Sep 19, 2012 5:53:23am |
re: #376 Obdicut
Basically, you speak with small pebbles in your mouth while simultaneously playing the flute.
[Embedded content]
I'd have to take a nap after a short convo....
381 | AK-47% Wed, Sep 19, 2012 5:54:10am |
re: #379 iossarian
Yeah, but the beards, man. The beards.
and you gotta admire people who still live off the grid...
382 | Cannadian Club Akbar Wed, Sep 19, 2012 5:54:16am |
My favorite FB pic that has made its rounds is the one where someone spray painted "spread anarchy" on a fence and someone painted a line through it and sprayed "don't tell me what to do". Prolly a fake but still funny.
383 | iossarian Wed, Sep 19, 2012 5:54:18am |
Ann Romney looks as if she hasn't slept for a week in that video.
People are mocking the "Mitt doesn't disdain the poor" line, but my guess is that "I'm having fun on this campaign trail" is the biggest lie of the segment.
384 | iossarian Wed, Sep 19, 2012 5:55:14am |
Brilliant. I'm listening to the video now. "Mitt doesn't need to do this for a job."
It's as if she actually can't go 30 seconds without reminding herself how rich they are.
385 | Cannadian Club Akbar Wed, Sep 19, 2012 5:55:54am |
re: #381 Expand Your Ground
and you gotta admire people who still live off the grid...
I heard an interview from 1999 with this author.
[Link: www.amazon.com...]
386 | iossarian Wed, Sep 19, 2012 5:57:49am |
Mitt once spent time with a friend's child who was dying of cancer!
And the kicker? He didn't even bill them for his time.
387 | AK-47% Wed, Sep 19, 2012 5:57:49am |
If you want to see what anarchy looked like in the Middle Ages, come to the Rhine River in Germany: each one of those robber baron castles was a law unto himself, even the Kaiser had to pay a toll to pass them.
Until the Kaiser finally cracked down and had them beheaded. Why was he punishing success?
389 | ReamWorks SKG Wed, Sep 19, 2012 6:00:49am |
If *I* were lucky enough to be a member of the 47%, I'd describe it the same way Romney does. I'd say "I pay all the Federal Income Taxes the law requires of me."
How can you fault anyone for following the law to the letter?
390 | Decatur Deb Wed, Sep 19, 2012 6:02:00am |
re: #389 ReamWorks SKG
If *I* were lucky enough to be a member of the 47%, I'd describe it the same way Romney does. I'd say "I pay all the Federal Income Taxes the law requires of me."
How can you fault anyone for following the law to the letter?
Paying every dime keeps you out of the Big House--it doesn't get you into the White House.
391 | Cannadian Club Akbar Wed, Sep 19, 2012 6:02:48am |
re: #389 ReamWorks SKG
If *I* were lucky enough to be a member of the 47%, I'd describe it the same way Romney does. I'd say "I pay all the Federal Income Taxes the law requires of me."
How can you fault anyone for following the law to the letter?
And then tell everyone about the loopholes used.
392 | ReamWorks SKG Wed, Sep 19, 2012 6:03:10am |
394 | iossarian Wed, Sep 19, 2012 6:07:24am |
re: #393 Expand Your Ground
live, fast, and die early...
Har har.
(or should that be, "arrr, arrr"?)
395 | Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Wed, Sep 19, 2012 6:15:26am |
Morning Lizardim from the cold and rainy wild north country. Temperatures have taken a distinct dip to the south on the mercury, and I'm honestly loving it - fall is a wonderful season, and the prelude to winter, to boot. I found myself honestly wondering, on the drive in to work, what absolute insanity Mitt came up with to try to cover for his latest series of disastrous gaffes. I was not disappointed. How are things among the Lizardim this morning?
396 | Obdicut Wed, Sep 19, 2012 6:17:13am |
re: #395 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too
Homemade bacon, egg, and habanero on croissant sandwich. Blue Bottle coffee. All is good.
397 | HAL2010 Wed, Sep 19, 2012 6:20:14am |
This will be my reaction on November the sixth, watching Mittens concession speech:
Graceful, I am not.
398 | Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Wed, Sep 19, 2012 6:22:46am |
re: #396 Obdicut
Homemade bacon, egg, and habanero on croissant sandwich. Blue Bottle coffee. All is good.
My token female team member brought in bacon, egg, and cheese cupcakes. I may grab a cup of hot tea to keep me awake; I'm starting to rely on that more over my usual Cherry Pepsi/Mountain Dew, trying to cut back on the empty sugary calories.
399 | Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Wed, Sep 19, 2012 6:25:11am |
Bleh. Recovering from an allergy/sinus attack. Basically did two things yesterday between 1am and 5pm; fed the cat, and slept. Boils down to your body telling you to remain in a prone and vegetative state.
Latter qualifies me to be a GOP voter I think, assuming I put FOX News on.
:p
400 | Obdicut Wed, Sep 19, 2012 6:25:32am |
re: #398 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too
I was never into soda. I actually have almost no sweet tooth, but I love spicy and salty stuff. I have to restrain myself while cooking or I create a cloud of atomized fried Cayenne that will render the apartment uninhabitable for anyone but me.
401 | HAL2010 Wed, Sep 19, 2012 6:27:19am |
re: #395 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too
Well, it's afternoon. But apart from that, not too shabby. Writing a small essay on changing nature of international negotiations.
Thought I might go for a run sooner rather than later. About 15 degrees and sunny. Can't complain.
402 | Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Wed, Sep 19, 2012 6:28:24am |
re: #400 Obdicut
I was never into soda. I actually have almost no sweet tooth, but I love spicy and salty stuff. I have to restrain myself while cooking or I create a cloud of atomized fried Cayenne that will render the apartment uninhabitable for anyone but me.
I love all things sweet. I am basically a sugar addict. When it comes to grilling, I prefer a mix of sweet and salt; I grew up with all my barbecue coming with sweet barbecue sauces on it. My wife has been steadily involving me in the world of spicy food, and I do enjoy a good curry, but I am afraid I will never be one of those maniacs that downs jalapeno peppers or grinds a little habanero on his pizza.
403 | BongCrodny Wed, Sep 19, 2012 6:29:40am |
404 | HAL2010 Wed, Sep 19, 2012 6:34:07am |
re: #402 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too
I love all things sweet. I am basically a sugar addict. When it comes to grilling, I prefer a mix of sweet and salt; I grew up with all my barbecue coming with sweet barbecue sauces on it. My wife has been steadily involving me in the world of spicy food, and I do enjoy a good curry, but I am afraid I will never be one of those maniacs that downs jalapeno peppers or grinds a little habanero on his pizza.
Trust me, you will. The more spicy food you eat, the more you want. Sugar addiction? PFFF
You should see a man in the depth of a Jalfreizi binge.
405 | Sheila Broflovski Wed, Sep 19, 2012 6:34:23am |
re: #392 ReamWorks SKG
Today is the Fast of Gedalia!
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
Have a good fast, everyone.
Is it OK if I take my pain meds?
406 | Cannadian Club Akbar Wed, Sep 19, 2012 6:35:56am |
407 | Sheila Broflovski Wed, Sep 19, 2012 6:36:44am |
re: #392 ReamWorks SKG
Today is the Fast of Gedalia!
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
Have a good fast, everyone.
A fast day is actually not a bad idea after the two days of nonstop eating we just went through.
408 | Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Wed, Sep 19, 2012 6:36:54am |
re: #402 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too
I love all things sweet. I am basically a sugar addict. When it comes to grilling, I prefer a mix of sweet and salt; I grew up with all my barbecue coming with sweet barbecue sauces on it. My wife has been steadily involving me in the world of spicy food, and I do enjoy a good curry, but I am afraid I will never be one of those maniacs that downs jalapeno peppers or grinds a little habanero on his pizza.
Spicy and sweet actually is a really nice combo. Looked at the ingredient list for a spicy sauce I use and the primary two (before the chile peppers) are raisins and orange juice. This stuff (and jalapeno jelly) both make really good glazing ingredients for something like salmon or meatloaf.
I also have a few jars of fruit and habanero jelly I picked up in Ft Worth a few years ago. I've been using that (or straight out jalapeno jelly) to make those sugar cookies with the spot of jam in the middle. Hits the sweet tooth -- and then the peppers kick in! >:D
409 | Obdicut Wed, Sep 19, 2012 6:37:37am |
re: #408 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste
I like jalapeno lollipops.
410 | Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Wed, Sep 19, 2012 6:39:17am |
re: #408 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste
Spicy and sweet actually is a really nice combo. Looked at the ingredient list for a spicy sauce I use and the primary two (before the chile peppers) are raisins and orange juice. This stuff (and jalapeno jelly) both make really good glazing ingredients for something like salmon or meatloaf.
I also have a few jars of fruit and habanero jelly I picked up in Ft Worth a few years ago. I've been using that (or straight out jalapeno jelly) to make those sugar cookies with the spot of jam in the middle. Hits the sweet tooth -- and then the peppers kick in! >:D
I made a homemade raspberry chile sauce that worked out really well. I reduced it just a little bit too much and so it came out a little more gummy than I'd like, leaving the meat a little dry. Lessons for next time.
411 | Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Wed, Sep 19, 2012 6:39:46am |
re: #409 Obdicut
I like jalapeno lollipops.
Now *that* would be an interesting ingredient to toss at an episode of "Chopped".
412 | Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Wed, Sep 19, 2012 6:40:40am |
re: #410 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too
I made a homemade raspberry chile sauce that worked out really well. I reduced it just a little bit too much and so it came out a little more gummy than I'd like, leaving the meat a little dry. Lessons for next time.
That would have probably been ideal for the cookies - you want it a little gummy for that.
413 | makeitstop Wed, Sep 19, 2012 6:40:53am |
My wife makes chocolate cupcakes with chipotle pepper. Yummy.
414 | Cannadian Club Akbar Wed, Sep 19, 2012 6:41:04am |
re: #411 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste
Now *that* would be an interesting ingredient to toss at an episode of "Chopped".
Pulverize it and sprinkle it on veggies.
415 | Obdicut Wed, Sep 19, 2012 6:41:33am |
re: #405 Sheila Brovlofski
Happy new year, by the way. Expecting any new grandchildren this year?
416 | Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Wed, Sep 19, 2012 6:41:35am |
re: #414 Cannadian Club Akbar
Pulverize it and sprinkle it on veggies.
Probably. Or break them up, melt them down, and use as a glaze.
417 | Cannadian Club Akbar Wed, Sep 19, 2012 6:42:06am |
re: #415 Obdicut
Happy new year, by the way. Expecting any new grandchildren this year?
Any minute now, I'm sure.
/
418 | Obdicut Wed, Sep 19, 2012 6:42:12am |
re: #413 makeitstop
My wife makes chocolate cupcakes with chipotle pepper. Yummy.
The first time I had spicy Mexican hot chocolate it was a revelation to me. So damn good.
Also, salty caramel ice cream, especially from the By-Rite in San Francisco.
419 | Sheila Broflovski Wed, Sep 19, 2012 6:43:46am |
re: #415 Obdicut
Happy new year, by the way. Expecting any new grandchildren this year?
My daughter is expecting (her 8th).
She's on adolescent medicine rotation now. Tells me that she spends all her time passing out contraceptives to teenagers. She could sneak some for herself, but I'm not sayin' nuthin'.
420 | HAL2010 Wed, Sep 19, 2012 6:44:00am |
Me and my friend once made a chilli con carne at his place, sat down to eat, and discovered to our dismay that we had ran out of tabasco.
"Don't worry", he said, "I've got something similar from the US" (he regularly visits). He came down with a bottle, and I sprayed it on like it was tabasco.
Took one bite of my food, stood right up, and started screaming. I ran to the kitchen, back to the living room, back to the kitchen. Still screaming.
I then proceeded to down about two pints of milk, and was sweating profusely.
My friend looked at me at this point thinking I was crazy, and took a big bite of his food. Same reaction. I would have laughed but I was too exhausted.
We then actually looked at the bottle. It was something called New Jersey Death Sauce, and came with a huge warning label. 750 times stronger than a Jalapeno.
I will never forget that day.
421 | kirkspencer Wed, Sep 19, 2012 6:45:00am |
re: #409 Obdicut
I like jalapeno lollipops.
Fudge -- real, old-fashioned fudge -- with cayenne powder added. I make it two ways. One, for everyone else, has 1/8 teaspoon added. Nobody detects the burn, but everyone notes how, well, chocolate the fudge is. (capsaicin opens tastebuds, as do salt and cloves.) The other batch gets a tablespoon or two. I'm not fond of kicking it up to OMG THE BURN levels, but I like the warmth.
I'll also bring to your attention the friend who made what he called 'frozen flame margaritas'. Standard frozen margaritas, really, except he used his habanero tequila. Basically, capsaicin is alcohol soluble. Put some habaneros in your bottle of tequila and let them masticate for a day. Pull out the (now fairly bland) pulp, and drink with caution. The heat against the ice made for a great effect.
422 | Cannadian Club Akbar Wed, Sep 19, 2012 6:45:19am |
re: #420 HAL2010
Me and my friend once made a chilli con carne at his place, sat down to eat, and discovered to our dismay that we had ran out of tabasco.
"Don't worry", he said, "I've got something similar from the US" (he regularly visits). He came down with a bottle, and I sprayed it on like it was tabasco.Took one bite of my food, stood right up, and started screaming. I ran to the kitchen, back to the living room, back to the kitchen. Still screaming.
I then proceeded to down about two pints of milk, and was sweating profusely.
My friend looked at me at this point thinking I was crazy, and took a big bite of his food. Same reaction. I would have laughed but I was too exhausted.We then actually looked at the bottle. It was something called New Jersey Death Sauce, and came with a huge warning label. 750 times stronger than a Jalapeno.
I will never forget that day.
Or the next day.
423 | Kronocide Wed, Sep 19, 2012 6:45:38am |
Looks like the gatekeepers in #ObamaMedia have decided to ignore Obama's redistribution comments. These people are shameless. #GoToHell— Jim Hoft (@gatewaypundit) September 19, 2012
Redistribution is a bad bad word. Even though it really isn't.
Shiny New Dog Whistle.
424 | Sheila Broflovski Wed, Sep 19, 2012 6:46:52am |
re: #423 Kronocide
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Redistribution is a bad bad word. Even though it really isn't.
Shiny New Dog Whistle.
Romney did more redistribution during his tenure at Bain than Obama ever did during his whole entire life.
425 | Cannadian Club Akbar Wed, Sep 19, 2012 6:48:18am |
re: #421 kirkspencer
Nigella Lawson, a TV chef I used to watch (and actually was the fist I saw to use a "busy" camera on her show) would put peppers in her vodka for her bloody marys.
426 | Gus Wed, Sep 19, 2012 6:48:45am |
re: #423 Kronocide
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Redistribution is a bad bad word. Even though it really isn't.
Shiny New Dog Whistle.
Go to hell! LOL
427 | Gus Wed, Sep 19, 2012 6:50:16am |
Berkely hosts first "Bisexual Pride Day." What's next? "Pedophile Pride Day?" "Bestiality Pride Day?" newsmax.com/America/Bisexu...— Bryan Fischer (@BryanJFischer) September 19, 2012
428 | makeitstop Wed, Sep 19, 2012 6:51:00am |
429 | Gretchen G.Tiger Wed, Sep 19, 2012 6:52:05am |
I only say "you people" to the dogs.
As in "All you people want is food and you never clean-up your toys"
In their case, I consider it appropriate.
How is the morning going for you Lizards?
430 | Cannadian Club Akbar Wed, Sep 19, 2012 6:52:13am |
re: #427 Gus
I found the leader for Bestiality Day. re: #333 Cannadian Club Akbar
Florida Farmhand Busted For Lewd Donkey Show
[Link: www.thesmokinggun.com...]Just look at the smile on this guys face.
431 | Mr. Crankypants Wed, Sep 19, 2012 6:52:18am |
re: #424 Sheila Brovlofski
Romney did more redistribution during his tenure at Bain than Obama ever did during his whole entire life.
it's only redistribution when going from the rich to the poor. The other way round is the natural order of things.
//
432 | BongCrodny Wed, Sep 19, 2012 6:52:18am |
re: #383 iossarian
Ann Romney looks as if she hasn't slept for a week in that video.
People are mocking the "Mitt doesn't disdain the poor" line, but my guess is that "I'm having fun on this campaign trail" is the biggest lie of the segment.
re: #427 Gus
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I think Carlos Romero's already on that one.
433 | Mr. Crankypants Wed, Sep 19, 2012 6:54:04am |
re: #430 Cannadian Club Akbar
I found the leader for Bestiality Day. re: #333 Cannadian Club Akbar
Farmer Wilson walks over to Farmer Jones' place and says
"Jones, I got me a problem and I gotta to go to court - I need a lawyer, do you know any?" Farmer Jones replies, "yeah, I know a couple of those guys. One is a hell of a trial lawyer, great guy but expensive as hell; the other, not so great, but the guy sure knows how to pick a jury and he's a lot cheaper." Wilson thanks his buddy and moves on thinking to himself, well I don't have a lot of money so I guess I know what I have to do.
Wilson's day in court finally comes and the first witness called to the stand is his neighbor Mrs. Smith. Mrs. Smith is sworn in and the prosecuter asks her, "Mrs. Smith, would you please tell the court what you saw on the day in question. "Why yes I can", she says, "I was doing my dishes, looking out my window over the sink when I saw Farmer Wilson come out from behind his barn and grab one of his goats". Yes mam, and then what did you see? "Well after he grabbed that goat he proceeded to drop his pants and fornicate with that there goat!" Is that all mam? "Well no, after it seemed like he had his way with that goat, the goat turned around and proceeded to lick his pecker clean!"
It was at this point of the testimony that one man on the jury turns to another man on the jury and says "you know, a good goat will do that"..
434 | Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Wed, Sep 19, 2012 6:54:28am |
re: #421 kirkspencer
Fudge -- real, old-fashioned fudge -- with cayenne powder added. I make it two ways. One, for everyone else, has 1/8 teaspoon added. Nobody detects the burn, but everyone notes how, well, chocolate the fudge is. (capsaicin opens tastebuds, as do salt and cloves.) The other batch gets a tablespoon or two. I'm not fond of kicking it up to OMG THE BURN levels, but I like the warmth.
I'll also bring to your attention the friend who made what he called 'frozen flame margaritas'. Standard frozen margaritas, really, except he used his habanero tequila. Basically, capsaicin is alcohol soluble. Put some habaneros in your bottle of tequila and let them masticate for a day. Pull out the (now fairly bland) pulp, and drink with caution. The heat against the ice made for a great effect.
I will pass that one on to my friend the chilehead. He also makes hot sauce and other pepper products. Luckily he is not a fan of "death sauce", but prefers flavor with heat.
He and his mother-in-law both make apple pie with hot peppers/sauce added. I tried it once - an interesting kick, but in my opinion detracts from a good apple pie. (If the goal is sweet and apple-y taste, the heat detracts.) I think in his case he wasn't using a good variety of apple for the pie, in which case adding heat would improve it.
435 | Gus Wed, Sep 19, 2012 6:55:12am |
re: #428 makeitstop
Moron Pride Day, in Fischer's honor.
Interesting to note what he always has his mind on. The man never stops thinking about sex.
436 | Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Wed, Sep 19, 2012 6:56:40am |
re: #435 Gus
Interesting to note what he always has his mind on. The man never stop thinking about sex.
Not only that, he never stops thinking about "perverted" sex. The mind shudders to think about what kind of kinky fetishes he might be into.
437 | Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Wed, Sep 19, 2012 6:56:57am |
And on that note, off for the day. See you later, alligators.
438 | Mr. Crankypants Wed, Sep 19, 2012 6:57:14am |
re: #434 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste
I will pass that one on to my friend the chilehead. He also makes hot sauce and other pepper products. Luckily he is not a fan of "death sauce", but prefers flavor with heat.
He and his mother-in-law both make apple pie with hot peppers/sauce added. I tried it once - an interesting kick, but in my opinion detracts from a good apple pie. (If the goal is sweet and apple-y taste, the heat detracts.) I think in his case he wasn't using a good variety of apple for the pie, in which case adding heat would improve it.
Cinnamon works better for heat. Taco Johns makes a thing called an Apple Grande which is a crispy flour tortilla with cinnamon sugar and apple pie filling. They used to put Red Hot candies on top which I thought made it even better, but not everyone liked it apparently.
439 | Gus Wed, Sep 19, 2012 6:57:40am |
re: #437 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too
And on that note, off for the day. See you later, alligators.
After a while, crocodile.
440 | makeitstop Wed, Sep 19, 2012 6:57:53am |
re: #435 Gus
Interesting to note what he always has his mind on. The man never stop thinking about sex.
Yeah, and he seems especially pre-occupied with the 'non-traditional' types of sex, ifyaknowwhatimsayin.
441 | Cannadian Club Akbar Wed, Sep 19, 2012 6:58:35am |
re: #433 PT Barnum
Farmer Green's chicken lays an egg on Farmer Brown land. They figure out a way to decide who gets the egg. They decide to kick each other in the nads until one gives up. Farmer Green goes first, gets a running start and kicks Farmer Brown in the nuts as hard as he can. Farmer Brown rolls around on the ground for about 10 minutes, finally get up and says "OK. My turn". Farmer Green says, "Na, keep the egg". :)
442 | Mr. Crankypants Wed, Sep 19, 2012 6:58:37am |
re: #440 makeitstop
Yeah, and he seems especially pre-occupied with the 'non-traditional' types of sex, ifyaknowwhatimsayin.
When it comes to projection, the religious right does it in Cinerama.
443 | kirkspencer Wed, Sep 19, 2012 6:58:41am |
re: #434 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste
I will pass that one on to my friend the chilehead. He also makes hot sauce and other pepper products. Luckily he is not a fan of "death sauce", but prefers flavor with heat.
He and his mother-in-law both make apple pie with hot peppers/sauce added. I tried it once - an interesting kick, but in my opinion detracts from a good apple pie. (If the goal is sweet and apple-y taste, the heat detracts.) I think in his case he wasn't using a good variety of apple for the pie, in which case adding heat would improve it.
As I said, capsaicin opens taste buds, and you don't really need enough to feel the burn to get the effect. I use this - and the same of cloves - a lot these days since one of the people in the house is on a low-sodium diet. For four or more servings keeping the cayenne between 1/8 and 1/16 teaspoon and about half that amount in cloves seems to bring out the flavors the lowered salt quantity missed.
446 | Gretchen G.Tiger Wed, Sep 19, 2012 7:00:19am |
Welsh and food are the topics of the morning?
447 | Cannadian Club Akbar Wed, Sep 19, 2012 7:02:21am |
re: #446 ggt
Welsh and food are the topics of the morning?
Combine the two.
[Link: allrecipes.com...]
448 | Gretchen G.Tiger Wed, Sep 19, 2012 7:02:36am |
re: #435 Gus
Interesting to note what he always has his mind on. The man never stops thinking about sex.
I think "the lady doth protest too much" is a line that comes to mind.
449 | Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Wed, Sep 19, 2012 7:03:24am |
re: #438 PT Barnum
Cinnamon works better for heat. Taco Johns makes a thing called an Apple Grande which is a crispy flour tortilla with cinnamon sugar and apple pie filling. They used to put Red Hot candies on top which I thought made it even better, but not everyone liked it apparently.
For apple pie I like a little bit of spicing (cinnamon, all-spice, etc.) to put a bit of edge on it. Some fresh lemon juice and zest as well. Key pretty much for a good pie is choosing the right apple(s) and having a good crust.
I also have a sour cream apple pie recipe that is a nice change of pace. Open top glazed with a cinnamon/butter/sugar mix. I found that it works real well as a dessert following a spicy main course like blackened fish, etc.
450 | Gretchen G.Tiger Wed, Sep 19, 2012 7:03:58am |
451 | Gus Wed, Sep 19, 2012 7:04:02am |
Trickle down economics. Let the wealth go to the top earners and corporations. Then have them REDISTRIBUTE the wealth down the food chain.
452 | Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Wed, Sep 19, 2012 7:05:48am |
re: #451 Gus
Trickle down economics. Let the wealth go to the top earners and corporations. Then have them REDISTRIBUTE the wealth down the food chain.
The term you are looking for is "largesse". Redistribution sounds like a requirement. You should simply be happy and *VERY GRATEFUL* that they gave you anything in exchange for your loyal servitude to the proper order of things.
Hmm, I get it now. They're trying to emulate cats.
453 | Mr. Crankypants Wed, Sep 19, 2012 7:06:35am |
re: #451 Gus
Trickle down economics. Let the wealth go to the top earners and corporations. Then have them REDISTRIBUTE the wealth down the food chain.
That trickle you feel is liquidity, but not the money kind.
454 | kirkspencer Wed, Sep 19, 2012 7:09:22am |
re: #451 Gus
Trickle down economics. Let the wealth go to the top earners and corporations. Then have them REDISTRIBUTE the wealth down the food chain.
Yeah. I keep asking myself how well that worked in earlier times. It should have made everyone wealthy in feudal eras, for example.
455 | BongCrodny Wed, Sep 19, 2012 7:11:56am |
Apropos of nothing, next week DC is releasing part 1 of "The Dark Knight Returns," its latest animated movie.
Although we won't see the goodness until part 2 in 2013, Michael Emerson is voicing The Joker.
That could be...fun.
456 | Dark_Falcon Wed, Sep 19, 2012 7:12:30am |
re: #8 Lidane
Screw that. I want an invisibility cloak. You know that they're using Mitt's money for really expensive whiskey to wash down the heartburn medication.
I'd snag a few bottles on my way out the door. Heh.
No, because if you had an invisibility cloak we'd have to change your nic to 'Harry Potter'.
/
457 | Dark_Falcon Wed, Sep 19, 2012 7:13:33am |
re: #455 BongCrodny
Apropos of nothing, next week DC is releasing part 1 of "The Dark Knight Returns," its latest animated movie.
Although we won't see the goodness until part 2 in 2013, Michael Emerson is voicing The Joker.
That could be...fun.
If its anything like the graphic novel, it has the potential to be very good.
459 | Kronocide Wed, Sep 19, 2012 7:15:28am |
On Redistribution and Robin Hood;
I've had the Robin Hood analogy dropped about taxation, as in 'liberals want to rob from the rich to give to the poor.' Seems like a seriously flawed analogy, or a tacit acknowledgement of support for an elite upper class with power delegated by wealth.
The Sheriff of Nottingham enforced high taxation on the underclass with little benefit. Robin Hood stole from the Sheriff and returned it to the poor.
So is Obama Robin Hood? Because it gets pretty screwy thinking this analogy through, especially since Obama is supposed to be the bad guy in this analogy. Does that make the Sheriff of Nottingham the good guy?
460 | Gus Wed, Sep 19, 2012 7:15:46am |
re: #454 kirkspencer
Yeah. I keep asking myself how well that worked in earlier times. It should have made everyone wealthy in feudal eras, for example.
Essentially we're looking at who holds the power on wealth and income. People like Romney want that power to be held by a small group of people and not the majority of Americans. No matter how you look at it they are the ones in power and it's not a democratic system. The rich distribute the wealth in America.
461 | Gus Wed, Sep 19, 2012 7:16:21am |
VIDEO: Mitt Romney talks about getting government money in 2002 youtube.com/watch?feature=... @bashirlive @chucktodd @wolfblitzer @cnn @edshow— PragmaticObotsUnite (@PragObots) September 19, 2012
463 | Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Wed, Sep 19, 2012 7:17:53am |
re: #459 Kronocide
On Redistribution and Robin Hood;
I've had the Robin Hood analogy dropped about taxation, as in 'liberals want to rob from the rich to give to the poor.' Seems like a seriously flawed analogy, or a tacit acknowledgement of support for an elite upper class with power delegated by wealth.
The Sheriff of Nottingham enforced high taxation on the underclass with little benefit. Robin Hood stole from the Sheriff and returned it to the poor.
So is Obama Robin Hood? Because it gets pretty screwy thinking this analogy through, especially since Obama is supposed to be the bad guy in this analogy. Does that make the Sheriff of Nottingham the good guy?
Those stories also have a major sub-text of Norman nobility vs Saxon underclass going on. I wonder what parallel that leads to in the modern comparison...
465 | BongCrodny Wed, Sep 19, 2012 7:19:25am |
re: #457 Dark_Falcon
If its anything like the graphic novel, it has the potential to be very good.
The animation will be limited, which will drop the overall effect down a notch or two -- but several of DC's animated movies have featured really good stories and, unlike Marvel's animated movies, DC's have traditionally featured top-notch voice talent.
I'm optimistic. DKR is probably my fourth favorite comic series/graphic novel, behind only Preacher, Watchmen and Planetary.
466 | Dark_Falcon Wed, Sep 19, 2012 7:19:35am |
re: #459 Kronocide
On Redistribution and Robin Hood;
I've had the Robin Hood analogy dropped about taxation, as in 'liberals want to rob from the rich to give to the poor.' Seems like a seriously flawed analogy, or a tacit acknowledgement of support for an elite upper class with power delegated by wealth.
The Sheriff of Nottingham enforced high taxation on the underclass with little benefit. Robin Hood stole from the Sheriff and returned it to the poor.
So is Obama Robin Hood? Because it gets pretty screwy thinking this analogy through, especially since Obama is supposed to be the bad guy in this analogy. Does that make the Sheriff of Nottingham the good guy?
Yes, he would be the good guy because he represents the established order. It's not a good analogy, as you said. Prince (later King) John was more the Englishman than Richard the Lionhearted ever was. In real life, Richard only spent about 6 months total in England and could not speak English. For the most part he lived in France and spoke French.
467 | Petero1818 Wed, Sep 19, 2012 7:20:21am |
re: #464 darthstar
I hadn't noticed the "steal Y'obama" icon on your name. I like it.
468 | Gretchen G.Tiger Wed, Sep 19, 2012 7:20:35am |
So, did anyone post the video upthread. It seems to have been pulled from Charles's link.
469 | Decatur Deb Wed, Sep 19, 2012 7:21:40am |
re: #466 Dark_Falcon
Yes, he would be the good guy because he represents the established order. It's not a good analogy, as you said. Prince (later King) John was more the Englishman than Richard the Lionhearted ever was. In real life, Richard only spent about 6 months total in England and could not speak English. For the most part he lived in France and spoke French.
I want to see his longform Patent of Nobility.!!1!
470 | Eventual Carrion Wed, Sep 19, 2012 7:21:51am |
re: #333 Cannadian Club Akbar
Florida Farmhand Busted For Lewd Donkey Show
[Link: www.thesmokinggun.com...]Just look at the smile on this guys face.
You'd smile too if you just had a little ass!
471 | BongCrodny Wed, Sep 19, 2012 7:23:08am |
"Hi, I'm Mitt Romney. I know you guys don't like me, so here's my wife."
472 | Dark_Falcon Wed, Sep 19, 2012 7:24:08am |
473 | Petero1818 Wed, Sep 19, 2012 7:24:48am |
I can't remember ever seeing a campaign built on a foundation of lies and misrepresentations like the current campaign being run by Mitt. Its crazy. The only 2 things the base has latched onto is "you didn't build that" and the "redistribution" meme both of which are complete lies that are undone by watching the sentences that preceded them. In an election cycle where the economy is as tough as it is, I would have thought the appeal to independents could have been at least competitive had it been based in reality. Instead, Mitt continues to have to shore up the base with idiocy. How can he possibly poll as well as he does?
474 | Lidane Wed, Sep 19, 2012 7:26:28am |
The way Barack Obama is handling his job as president: Approve 56% / Disapprove 40% (AP-GfK Poll, 9/13-17) bit.ly/nqS8a0— PollingReport.com (@pollreport) September 19, 2012
475 | makeitstop Wed, Sep 19, 2012 7:26:47am |
re: #473 Petero1818
I can't remember ever seeing a campaign built on a foundation of lies and misrepresentations like the current campaign being run by Mitt. Its crazy. The only 2 things the base has latched onto is "you didn't build that" and the "redistribution" meme both of which are complete lies that are undone by watching the sentences that preceded them. In an election cycle where the economy is as tough as it is, I would have thought the appeal to independents could have been at least competitive had it been based in reality. Instead, Mitt continues to have to shore up the base with idiocy. How can he possibly poll as well as he does?
I blame the media, working the poor MBF to death.
If it weren't for false equivalency, Mittens would be in single digits right now.
476 | MittDoesNotCompute Wed, Sep 19, 2012 7:27:34am |
re: #473 Petero1818
I can't remember ever seeing a campaign built on a foundation of lies and misrepresentations like the current campaign being run by Mitt. Its crazy. The only 2 things the base has latched onto is "you didn't build that" and the "redistribution" meme both of which are complete lies that are undone by watching the sentences that preceded them. In an election cycle where the economy is as tough as it is, I would have thought the appeal to independents could have been at least competitive had it been based in reality. Instead, Mitt continues to have to shore up the base with idiocy. How can he possibly poll as well as he does?
It's not about facts and logic, it's all about feelings.
/what the Republicans used to say about Democrats
477 | Sheila Broflovski Wed, Sep 19, 2012 7:27:38am |
re: #449 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste
For apple pie I like a little bit of spicing (cinnamon, all-spice, etc.) to put a bit of edge on it. Some fresh lemon juice and zest as well. Key pretty much for a good pie is choosing the right apple(s) and having a good crust.
I also have a sour cream apple pie recipe that is a nice change of pace. Open top glazed with a cinnamon/butter/sugar mix. I found that it works real well as a dessert following a spicy main course like blackened fish, etc.
What's the best kind of apple to use for a pie filling? I made a strudel on Sunday that used a combination of Gala and Granny Smith.
478 | darthstar Wed, Sep 19, 2012 7:28:24am |
re: #467 Petero1818
I hadn't noticed the "steal Y'obama" icon on your name. I like it.
Thanks...I call it 'steal your hope'...because that's what Obama's done to Romney.
479 | Dark_Falcon Wed, Sep 19, 2012 7:28:25am |
re: #469 Decatur Deb
Turns out to not have mattered, since he had no children. As for John, he was a poor king as was his son Henry III. But Henry III's son was King Edward I, who combined skill in war with being authentically English. He was also a ruthless man who earned his hostile portrayal in "Braveheart", but his reign was the boost England needed after three domestically weak kings in a row.
480 | Gretchen G.Tiger Wed, Sep 19, 2012 7:28:59am |
re: #477 Sheila Brovlofski
What's the best kind of apple to use for a pie filling? I made a strudel on Sunday that used a combination of Gala and Granny Smith.
The kind the local bakery uses! ;)
481 | darthstar Wed, Sep 19, 2012 7:29:31am |
re: #471 BongCrodny
"Hi, I'm Mitt Romney. I know you guys don't like me, so here's my wife."
She's no more likable than he is. She sneers at the camera and is just as condescending.
482 | Petero1818 Wed, Sep 19, 2012 7:29:45am |
re: #478 darthstar
Thanks...I call it 'steal your hope'...because that's what Obama's done to Romney.
Back in the day that would have made you a good buck in the lot selling shirts of it.
483 | NJDhockeyfan Wed, Sep 19, 2012 7:30:04am |
re: #470 Eventual Carrion
You'd smile too if you just had a little ass!
Carlos Romero, 31, was collared yesterday and charged with misdemeanor sexual activity with an animal.
They put a collar on that guy?
484 | Gus Wed, Sep 19, 2012 7:30:27am |
The Romney Video and the Right's Quixotic Quest for the "Real Obama"
—By Adam Serwer
Mitt Romney's massive parasitic moocher class encompassing nearly half of the American public does not exist. Many of you have probably already seen the stories (and the video) that are shaking up the Romney campaign. My MoJo colleague David Corn reported yesterday that Romney had told a group of wealthy donors at a May fundraiser—held by private equity manager (and sex-party enthusiast) Marc Leder—that 47 percent of Americans are "dependent upon government, who believe that they are victims, who believe the government has a responsibility to care for them," and who, of course, "pay no income tax." (He said other things too, in the second installment.)
485 | Dark_Falcon Wed, Sep 19, 2012 7:30:35am |
re: #474 Lidane
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That one's an outlier. No way Obama goes from 2% approve over disapprove to 16%.
486 | BongCrodny Wed, Sep 19, 2012 7:30:49am |
re: #474 Lidane
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The way Barack Obama is handling his job as president: Approve 56% / Disapprove 40% (AP-GfK Poll, 9/13-17)
Do you suppose that bump is a result of the job Obama is doing, or just that he looks good in comparison to you-know-who.
487 | kirkspencer Wed, Sep 19, 2012 7:31:14am |
re: #473 Petero1818
I can't remember ever seeing a campaign built on a foundation of lies and misrepresentations like the current campaign being run by Mitt. Its crazy. The only 2 things the base has latched onto is "you didn't build that" and the "redistribution" meme both of which are complete lies that are undone by watching the sentences that preceded them. In an election cycle where the economy is as tough as it is, I would have thought the appeal to independents could have been at least competitive had it been based in reality. Instead, Mitt continues to have to shore up the base with idiocy. How can he possibly poll as well as he does?
Several reasons, the two largest of which are:
The sheriff is a n*, er, is black;
My team, right or wrong (aka yellow dog).
If the Republican party shatters (which if it happens I think won't be till after the 2016 elections) it'll form two competing splinters each claiming to be the "real" GOP - neither will want to join the 'other team' because of the two prior issues.
As a btw, I'm generally skeptical that the GOP will shatter. Simple reason is the way the rules, and more importantly the money, are rigged to go to the top two parties at this time. Split the GOP and suddenly they're on a par with some other third parties all competing for that number two slot. One of the largest examples here is the question of who pays for the primary election ballots. If you're Dem or Rep many costs are eaten by the states. (How much depends on the state's rules.) If you're the Libertarian or Constitution or Green or other third party you do your own ballots.
488 | Lidane Wed, Sep 19, 2012 7:31:41am |
NC GOP candidate tells debate crowd: I'm no Mitt Romney! talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/2012/... #winning— Josh Marshall (@joshtpm) September 19, 2012
489 | Lidane Wed, Sep 19, 2012 7:33:03am |
re: #486 BongCrodny
Do you suppose that bump is a result of the job Obama is doing, or just that he looks good in comparison to you-know-who.
No idea. I'm wondering that myself.
490 | darthstar Wed, Sep 19, 2012 7:33:12am |
re: #477 Sheila Brovlofski
What's the best kind of apple to use for a pie filling? I made a strudel on Sunday that used a combination of Gala and Granny Smith.
I like to use a firm, tart apple in my pies - like an Arkansas Black. But the best thing to do is practice, practice, practice until you find the one you like. Fujis are good, Gravensteins make excellent pies (maybe better than the Arkansas, which are so good to eat by themselves)...yeah, try the Gravensteins next time. Once you toss a couple of handfuls of brown sugar, a dump of cinnamon and some butter into it(those are my official measures by the way), it's all good.
491 | Gus Wed, Sep 19, 2012 7:33:16am |
Mitt Romney's Palin-esque ignorance of Middle East politics, by @davidwearing ow.ly/dPwoz— New Statesman (@NewStatesman) September 19, 2012
492 | Gretchen G.Tiger Wed, Sep 19, 2012 7:33:21am |
going to try to wake-up.
have a great day all!
493 | Petero1818 Wed, Sep 19, 2012 7:33:53am |
re: #487 kirkspencer
Several reasons, the two largest of which are:
The sheriff is a n*, er, is black;
My team, right or wrong (aka yellow dog).If the Republican party shatters (which if it happens I think won't be till after the 2016 elections) it'll form two competing splinters each claiming to be the "real" GOP - neither will want to join the 'other team' because of the two prior issues.
As a btw, I'm generally skeptical that the GOP will shatter. Simple reason is the way the rules, and more importantly the money, are rigged to go to the top two parties at this time. Split the GOP and suddenly they're on a par with some other third parties all competing for that number two slot. One of the largest examples here is the question of who pays for the primary election ballots. If you're Dem or Rep many costs are eaten by the states. (How much depends on the state's rules.) If you're the Libertarian or Constitution or Green or other third party you do your own ballots.
I agree, it won't splinter. But the 2016 ticket will be decidedly wingnut. I think a Santorum / Palin ticket will emerge or a Palin / Santorum. Either way they will get their candidates on the ticket to see if they can do better than the establishment guy. Mitt was the establishment's last hope for at least 2 cycles I think.
494 | Lidane Wed, Sep 19, 2012 7:34:11am |
NC GOP candidate tells debate crowd: I'm no Mitt Romney! talkingpointsmemo.com/archives/2012/... #winning— Josh Marshall (@joshtpm) September 19, 2012
495 | lawhawk Wed, Sep 19, 2012 7:35:48am |
re: #477 Sheila Brovlofski
Empires are pretty good baking apples; the Mrs. made an apple walnut cake, and we used a couple different varieties including Empires, Jonathans, and Jonagolds. All were picked from the tree, so they were as fresh as you can possibly imagine. Other possibilities here.
We've got so many apples, that I made a batch of apple ginger soup - so easy to make too. You can use vegetable or chicken stock/broth as a base, and then put in the cut apples (everything but the cores) fresh minced ginger to taste, let simmer, and then blend - (an immersion blender works best).
496 | Dark_Falcon Wed, Sep 19, 2012 7:37:01am |
re: #491 Gus
Downding for the wretched pro-Palestinian propaganda. Mitt Romney does indeed understand that situation better than that joker.
497 | darthstar Wed, Sep 19, 2012 7:37:49am |
re: #485 Dark_Falcon
That one's an outlier. No way Obama goes from 2% approve over disapprove to 16%.
If it makes you feel better, 4% didn't respond or were undecided. But yes, once people settle into an opinion (when it was 44% approve 46% disapprove there were 10% undecideds) the gaps begin to show.
As Cap'n Clinton would say, "It's Arrrithmatic, ye parrot-loving swine."
498 | lawhawk Wed, Sep 19, 2012 7:38:14am |
re: #484 Gus
You know who makes up a significant percentage of the 47% that Mitt thinks are moochers? Senior citizens who are on fixed incomes, who paid a lifetime of taxes (payroll, income, and other state and local taxes). And even others within the 47% who he claims paid no income tax still paid payroll taxes and state and local taxes. They aren't exactly freeloaders. Far from it. Many actually end up paying a greater percentage of their income than Mitt did in his reported income tax returns.
499 | Gus Wed, Sep 19, 2012 7:39:13am |
re: #496 Dark_Falcon
Downding for the wretched pro-Palestinian propaganda. Mitt Romney does indeed understand that situation better than that joker.
Yes. Being "pro-Palestinian" should be against the law! Outrage!
[Faints.]
500 | Petero1818 Wed, Sep 19, 2012 7:40:56am |
re: #496 Dark_Falcon
Downding for the wretched pro-Palestinian propaganda. Mitt Romney does indeed understand that situation better than that joker.
Not sure its worth a down ding. I agree the article was somewhat lopsided, but no more than most favoring Israel.
501 | darthstar Wed, Sep 19, 2012 7:41:14am |
re: #491 Gus
Mitt Romney's Palin-esque ignorance of Middle East politics, by @davidwearing ow.ly/dPwoz— New Statesman (@NewStatesman) September 19, 2012
Palin-esque ignorance. Brutal, but true. Judging from the down-ding, DF didn't see Rachel eviscerate Romney on his ignorance of what a dirty bomb requires when he was boasting about how Iran could attack the United States with one in that Boca Raton fundraiser video.
502 | Gus Wed, Sep 19, 2012 7:42:12am |
Here. Have another one DF.
great perspective from @muslimmatters : The Embassy Attacks: Hyperbole, Hypocrisy and Hujarat shar.es/uySGz via— Mustafa S. Dill (PR) (@MuslimNewMedia) September 19, 2012
503 | Petero1818 Wed, Sep 19, 2012 7:42:44am |
re: #501 darthstar
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Palin-esque ignorance. Brutal, but true. Judging from the down-ding, DF didn't see Rachel eviscerate Romney on his ignorance of what a dirty bomb requires when he was boasting about how Iran could attack the United States with one in that Boca Raton fundraiser video.
To be fair I think DF was reacting to the characterization of Israeli occupation and the debatable positioning of Hamas acceptance of the Saudi Plan found in the article.
504 | Dark_Falcon Wed, Sep 19, 2012 7:42:53am |
re: #499 Gus
Yes. Being "pro-Palestinian" should be against the law! Outrage!
[Faints.]
Gus 802 stars in Confessions of an LGF Drama Queen. Playing ever day at the Little Green Footballs Theater! [smiles]
505 | Lidane Wed, Sep 19, 2012 7:43:24am |
And it begins:
Ann Romney: Mitt was taken out of context! tpm.ly/NC98XI— Talking Points Memo (@TPM) September 19, 2012
506 | darthstar Wed, Sep 19, 2012 7:43:49am |
If you, like me, want to listen to Ann Romney say, "I love you wo-men!" on an endless loop, it's here: bit.ly/Rtn34v (h/t @evanmc_s)— Sara Libby (@SaraLibby) September 19, 2012
507 | Mocking Jay Wed, Sep 19, 2012 7:44:12am |
re: #505 Lidane
And it begins:
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So they're going to use the "out of context" argument? They didn't build that!
508 | NJDhockeyfan Wed, Sep 19, 2012 7:44:16am |
#Libya'n lady puts flowers on the gates of USA consulate in #Benghazi last Monday. (from FB) twitter.com/2011feb17/stat...— HAMID ???? (@2011feb17) September 19, 2012
509 | Lidane Wed, Sep 19, 2012 7:44:41am |
Why is Romney spending so much time fundraising instead of campaigning? "It's too late to do rallies," one donor says. realclearpolitics.com/articles/2012/...— McKay Coppins (@mckaycoppins) September 19, 2012
510 | darthstar Wed, Sep 19, 2012 7:45:00am |
re: #503 Petero1818
To be fair I think DF was reacting to the characterization of Israeli occupation and the debatable positioning of Hamas acceptance of the Saudi Plan found in the article.
I thought he was downdinging the tweet, which mentions two GOP standard bearers together.
511 | Gus Wed, Sep 19, 2012 7:45:08am |
Bush (Rice) made a big deal about the settlements too. Seriously. This is nothing new. Only in recent years have the Republicans taken a hard line approach that is in fact a harder line than Bibi takes.
512 | darthstar Wed, Sep 19, 2012 7:46:22am |
re: #511 Gus
Bush (Rice) made a big deal about the settlements too. Seriously. This is nothing new. Only in recent years have the Republicans taken a hard line approach that is in fact a harder line than Bibi takes.
Well, we did have a white president back then.
513 | lawhawk Wed, Sep 19, 2012 7:46:31am |
re: #509 Lidane
Why? Well, there's $11 million reasons - the campaign had to go borrow money to cover costs between the end of the primaries and the end of the convention because of campaign finance rules.
Mitt Romney’s presidential campaign borrowed $20 million in the month of August to pay for its expenses before he could begin tapping general election dollars and is now $11 million in debt, a senior campaign official confirmed late Tuesday.
Romney’s campaign finance filings, due to be released on Wednesday, will show the campaign with $15 million in debt, the official said, although the debt currently stands at $11 million.
The National Review Online first reported news of the campaign’s debt Tuesday night.
Although Romney has raised hundreds of millions of dollars in general election funds, his campaign could not legally tap those funds until after he officially was nominated at the Republican National Convention.
514 | Mocking Jay Wed, Sep 19, 2012 7:46:44am |
re: #511 Gus
Bush (Rice) made a big deal about the settlements too. Seriously. This is nothing new. Only in recent years have the Republicans taken a hard line approach that is in fact a hard line than Bibi takes.
Their problem is that they cannot share any opinion that Obama has. Seriously, whatever Obama thinks, the real answer must be further to the right.
515 | Dark_Falcon Wed, Sep 19, 2012 7:47:16am |
re: #503 Petero1818
To be fair I think DF was reacting to the characterization of Israeli occupation and the debatable positioning of Hamas acceptance of the Saudi Plan found in the article.
Exactly. I did take the time to read the way the article simply took the position of the Palestinians on the question of settlements, to the extent of calling said settlement "colonization". It struck me as a one-sided piece and gave the Palestinians a good bit more credit than I think proper.
So based on that, I maintain my view that Mitt Romney has a better understanding of the situation in Israel/West Bank-Gaza than does David Wearing.
516 | NJDhockeyfan Wed, Sep 19, 2012 7:48:15am |
This should throw more gasoline on the fire.
French magazine ridicules prophet Mohammad with cartoons reut.rs/RsB8z2— Reuters Top News (@Reuters) September 19, 2012
517 | darthstar Wed, Sep 19, 2012 7:48:42am |
re: #515 Dark_Falcon
So based on that, I maintain my view that Mitt Romney has a better understanding of the situation in Israel/West Bank-Gaza than does David Wearing.
I'm sure he'll do great against David Wearing in the debates.
518 | Gus Wed, Sep 19, 2012 7:48:47am |
re: #515 Dark_Falcon
Exactly. I did take the time to read the way the article simply took the position of the Palestinians on the question of settlements, to the extent of calling said settlement "colonization". It struck me as a one-sided piece and gave the Palestinians a good bit more credit than I think proper.
So based on that, I maintain my view that Mitt Romney has a better understanding of the situation in Israel/West Bank-Gaza than does David Wearing.
I thought you liked colonialism. What do you think the settlements are anyway? Phasing of a condominium development?
519 | darthstar Wed, Sep 19, 2012 7:48:57am |
re: #516 NJDhockeyfan
This should throw more gasoline on the fire.
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You can only hope.
520 | Cannadian Club Akbar Wed, Sep 19, 2012 7:49:02am |
521 | kirkspencer Wed, Sep 19, 2012 7:49:33am |
re: #503 Petero1818
To be fair I think DF was reacting to the characterization of Israeli occupation and the debatable positioning of Hamas acceptance of the Saudi Plan found in the article.
By his own admission he's had a habit of downdinging without reading. I'm not going to downding without knowing for certain, but at the same time I'm not going to make assumptions that it's for the content and defend him.
522 | NJDhockeyfan Wed, Sep 19, 2012 7:49:44am |
523 | Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Wed, Sep 19, 2012 7:49:58am |
re: #477 Sheila Brovlofski
What's the best kind of apple to use for a pie filling? I made a strudel on Sunday that used a combination of Gala and Granny Smith.
A lot depends on what you're trying to achieve. Macintosh have nice flavor, but also break down easily - so if you want lots of juice they are good to use. Granny Smith are tarter and hold very firm. (My "best" apple pie recipe actually recommends a mix of Granny Smith and Macintosh - firmness with some lovely gooey juice mixed in.) Gala are pretty good cooking apples as well from what I hear.
Worst thing is using "eating" apples like Red Delicious or Gold Delicious for cooking something like pie. Very little flavor and not a very good texture as well - they cook out with a "mealy" texture. :p
524 | Petero1818 Wed, Sep 19, 2012 7:50:03am |
re: #505 Lidane
And it begins:
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Which would make sense if Conservatives hadn't been debating this part of the platform for the last 12 months. The context is clear. The statement is clear. The problem Mittens has here is that they deliberately lie about who they are referring to. If they want to talk about the 1 %? of the population that probably takes advantage of govt benefits and lacks the motivation to do anything about it, I am ok with that. Let's talk about those people. Not sure if its 1%, .1%, .01% but lets agree they are freeloaders and freeriders. What does that have to do with this election. Nothing. Instead the GOP and Mittens made the decision to vastly grow that class of people with lies and tie them to the larger group of people that pay no Federal income tax. You can't have it both ways. Its either an inconsequential group (truth) or its 47%. You seem to want to get a rise out of the base with the 47. Live by the sword....
525 | darthstar Wed, Sep 19, 2012 7:50:17am |
Ha!
Men with jackhammers are tearing up my porch today. Sadly none of that is a euphemism.— Theresa Romain (@TheresaRomain) September 19, 2012
526 | Dark_Falcon Wed, Sep 19, 2012 7:51:20am |
re: #521 kirkspencer
By his own admission he's had a habit of downdinging without reading. I'm not going to downding without knowing for certain, but at the same time I'm not going to make assumptions that it's for the content and defend him.
I did read the all of the article save its last paragraph before posting.
527 | Petero1818 Wed, Sep 19, 2012 7:51:53am |
re: #515 Dark_Falcon
Exactly. I did take the time to read the way the article simply took the position of the Palestinians on the question of settlements, to the extent of calling said settlement "colonization". It struck me as a one-sided piece and gave the Palestinians a good bit more credit than I think proper.
So based on that, I maintain my view that Mitt Romney has a better understanding of the situation in Israel/West Bank-Gaza than does David Wearing.
I would still argue that its author was likely a hell of a lot better informed than Mitt given his career, notwithstanding his obvious agenda and opinions.
528 | darthstar Wed, Sep 19, 2012 7:52:46am |
re: #522 NJDhockeyfan
Why would I hope for that?
Because you obviously love this shit. You can find links to Iran/Israel/Lebanon/Libya - pick a Middle East clusterfuck in process or threatening to happen - faster than anyone I've seen on the internets.
529 | Petero1818 Wed, Sep 19, 2012 7:53:02am |
re: #518 Gus
I thought you liked colonialism. What do you think the settlements are anyway? Phasing of a condominium development?
Are the two mutually exclusive?
530 | Gus Wed, Sep 19, 2012 7:53:31am |
IV. Work with others to Defuse Regional Conflicts
President Bush
Berlin, Germany
May 23, 2002
...Israel also has a large stake in the success of a democratic Palestine. Permanent occupation threatens Israel’s identity and democracy. So the United States continues to challenge Israeli leaders to take concrete steps to support the emergence of a viable, credible Palestinian state. As there is progress towards security, Israel forces need to withdraw fully to positions they held prior to September 28, 2000. And consistent with the recommendations of the Mitchell Committee, Israeli settlement activity in the occupied territories must stop. As violence subsides, freedom of movement should be restored, permitting innocent Palestinians to resume work and normal life. The United States can play a crucial role but, ultimately, lasting peace can only come when Israelis and Palestinians resolve the issues and end the conflict between them...
531 | darthstar Wed, Sep 19, 2012 7:53:32am |
Shit...running late...slept in after staying up to watch Obama on Letterman. Good interview, by the way. See you all later.
533 | Lidane Wed, Sep 19, 2012 7:54:38am |
Donors to Romney: Why aren't you more likable? tpm.ly/S4Xele— Talking Points Memo (@TPM) September 19, 2012
Simple answer: They haven't installed his empathy or likability chips yet.
534 | Dark_Falcon Wed, Sep 19, 2012 7:54:39am |
re: #516 NJDhockeyfan
This should throw more gasoline on the fire.
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I actually think this a decent reply to those demanding that others not say things they don't like. The message these cartoons send to protesting Islamists is "Fuck You, we'll print what we want!".
535 | kirkspencer Wed, Sep 19, 2012 7:55:17am |
re: #515 Dark_Falcon
Exactly. I did take the time to read the way the article simply took the position of the Palestinians on the question of settlements, to the extent of calling said settlement "colonization". It struck me as a one-sided piece and gave the Palestinians a good bit more credit than I think proper.
So based on that, I maintain my view that Mitt Romney has a better understanding of the situation in Israel/West Bank-Gaza than does David Wearing.
why not call it colonization?
See, I've said before that I think the whole settlement issue is the biggest stain Israel had. Israel says it's set aside areas with the intent of making them a separate state at some indefinable period down the road. Then some religious radicals move into what is supposed to be the other nation, force the existing residents out at gunpoint (killing some). The residents who resist effectively or who get friends and allies to return are countered by the Israeli government's forces.
It is, bluntly, a slow motion method of eliminating the other state through colonization and extension. It's an old process, and we are as guilty as any other nation (see Georgia and the Cherokees for one example). It doesn't change what it is, however, and it's the height of hypocrisy to say it isn't really what's going on.
536 | lawhawk Wed, Sep 19, 2012 7:56:10am |
re: #515 Dark_Falcon
I'll point out that the Obama Administration hasn't cut loan guarantees or reduced actual military assistance to Israel even as the Israeli government approves housing in disputed areas of the West Bank. The Administration has increased military assistance, and that includes missile defense systems.
Prior administrations used settlements as reason to withhold loan guarantees - which aren't even layouts of funds - only a guarantee should Israel not be able to repay (something Israel has never reneged upon).
Changing military exercises isn't the same as cutting aid or actual military readiness for the Israeli military.
At the same time, everyone needs to understand that settlements aren't the reasons for a lack of a peace deal. Hamas doesn't recognize Israel's right to exist and as long as they hold that position, there can't be peace.
Israel's repeatedly shown itself capable of handing over territory, forcibly removing Israelis from settlements and housing (Gaza and Sinai). Israeli courts have repeatedly ruled against illegal settlements and the Israeli government has shuttered such illegal settlements. There is a rule of law, but when Hamas is part of the Palestinian government and they don't recognize Israel's right to exist, there's no one on the other side of the table with whom to make a peace deal. Any peace deal between the parties will involve land transfers - to try and create contiguous and defensible borders, and that is a difficult but not impossible task. Even the Obama Administration recognizes this, which is why no one is forcing the sides to work on a deal.
That isn't to say that there aren't likely backchannel negotiations between Fatah and Israel over how to coordinate security and work on a framework deal advancing Oslo. But those talks aren't going to result in a deal unless and until Hamas recognizes that they can't eliminate Israel and that their position is futile - endless war helps no one but the Hamas leaders maintain their position.
537 | Dark_Falcon Wed, Sep 19, 2012 7:57:04am |
re: #527 Petero1818
I would still argue that its author was likely a hell of a lot better informed than Mitt given his career, notwithstanding his obvious agenda and opinions.
Just because you know a bunch of facts does not mean you understand the situation. Understanding can be impaired by faulty ideology or by a too-strong desire to be "even-handed".
538 | AK-47% Wed, Sep 19, 2012 8:00:17am |
re: #427 Gus
Bryan Fischer: Berkely hosts first "Bisexual Pride Day." What's next? "Pedophile Pride Day?" "Bestiality Pride Day?"
How about "Republican Congressmen Caught Soliciting Gay Sex in Public Places Day"?
539 | Gus Wed, Sep 19, 2012 8:03:34am |
Pirates!
Aye, there be a pirate in me collection: s.si.edu/dOLG0 U.S. Army Air Corps 6th Composite Group Insignia. #talklikeapirate— SmithsonianAirSpace (@airandspace) September 19, 2012
540 | Killgore Trout Wed, Sep 19, 2012 8:04:05am |
re: #516 NJDhockeyfan
This should throw more gasoline on the fire.
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Maybe but it usually takes a while for clerics to properly manufacture the outrage. Give it a couple weeks. I don't expect much of a reaction from the Muslim world. I'm starting to see more debate in the West about what's allowable free speech. Of course most (if not all) major media outlets in the West will voluntarily censor themselves over the cartoons but there will still be voices that legal remedies are needed.
541 | NJDhockeyfan Wed, Sep 19, 2012 8:05:29am |
re: #528 darthstar
Because you obviously love this shit. You can find links to Iran/Israel/Lebanon/Libya - pick a Middle East clusterfuck in process or threatening to happen - faster than anyone I've seen on the internets.
It's news. You obviously don't give a shit about what goes on outside the US but I do. Everything that happens over there affects what goes on over here. Pay attention.
542 | Interesting Times Wed, Sep 19, 2012 8:05:40am |
re: #505 Lidane
And it begins:
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When someone releases the *entire* *uncut* video, pretty hard to whine about being taken "out of context".— CC (@canadiancynic) September 19, 2012
543 | lawhawk Wed, Sep 19, 2012 8:06:04am |
re: #539 Gus
Aye ye matey! Even our Navy flies the Jolly Roger.
544 | Gus Wed, Sep 19, 2012 8:08:45am |
I can't get over how a former US Ambassador 2 the UN is now a #Mitt Policy adviser AND a speaker 4 a #SPLC ID'ed hate group, #Geller's #SIOA— KatieAnnieOakly (@KatieAnnieOakly) September 19, 2012
545 | Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Wed, Sep 19, 2012 8:09:07am |
re: #541 NJDhockeyfan
It's news. You obviously don't give a shit about what goes on outside the US but I do. Everything that happens over there affects what goes on over here. Pay attention.
Passive aggressive broad brush bullshit.
You cherrypick your stories. And you're allowed to do so. And someone else is allowed to critique you on your selection bias and methods.
546 | NJDhockeyfan Wed, Sep 19, 2012 8:09:40am |
re: #545 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste
Passive aggressive broad brush bullshit.
You cherrypick your stories. And you're allowed to do so. And someone else is allowed to critique you on your selection bias and methods.
Bullshit.
/Derp
547 | Gus Wed, Sep 19, 2012 8:09:45am |
Pam Geller -> SIOA -> John Bolton -> Mitt Romney
The hate group connection.
548 | Cannadian Club Akbar Wed, Sep 19, 2012 8:14:31am |
No mention of the new cartoons.
[Link: www.businessweek.com...]
549 | Dark_Falcon Wed, Sep 19, 2012 8:16:17am |
re: #548 Cannadian Club Akbar
No mention of the new cartoons.
[Link: www.businessweek.com...]
Still an act of terrorism motivated by hated of Jews. Whatever its perpetrators claim as their reason for doing it, they're still asshole terrorists who should receive long prison terms.
550 | Kronocide Wed, Sep 19, 2012 8:17:19am |
re: #545 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste
Passive aggressive broad brush bullshit.
You cherrypick your stories. And you're allowed to do so. And someone else is allowed to critique you on your selection bias and methods.
You're being polite. I'd rather call it like it is and call it agenda driven posting.
551 | Cannadian Club Akbar Wed, Sep 19, 2012 8:17:21am |
re: #549 Dark_Falcon
Still an act of terrorism motivated by hated of Jews. Whatever its perpetrators claim as their reason for doing it, they're still asshole terrorists who should receive long prison terms.
Agree.
552 | NJDhockeyfan Wed, Sep 19, 2012 8:18:13am |
Later gators. Got a date for lunch....my wife :)
553 | Kronocide Wed, Sep 19, 2012 8:18:41am |
re: #546 NJDhockeyfan
Bullshit.
/Derp
You're the derp. A couple of hours a day of agenda driven derp.
554 | Killgore Trout Wed, Sep 19, 2012 8:19:10am |
555 | Mocking Jay Wed, Sep 19, 2012 8:20:41am |
At least someone's doing well in this economy. Hey, we should be cutting their taxes. Only then will they create jobs...
Richest 400 Americans' net worth jumps 13% to $1.7 trillion reut.rs/T45sRT
— Lauren Young (@LaurenYoung) September 19, 2012
556 | Petero1818 Wed, Sep 19, 2012 8:21:39am |
re: #537 Dark_Falcon
Just because you know a bunch of facts does not mean you understand the situation. Understanding can be impaired by faulty ideology or by a too-strong desire to be "even-handed".
"understanding" is a little too subjective for my liking in this context.
557 | Gus Wed, Sep 19, 2012 8:21:47am |
re: #555 Mocking Jay
At least someone's doing well in this economy. Hey, we should be cutting their taxes. Only then will they create jobs...
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Those poor people! How they suffer in their wealth!
//
558 | bratwurst Wed, Sep 19, 2012 8:23:16am |
Pat Buchanan calls Obama "a drug dealer of welfare." I guess that would make Pat a crystal meth lab of racism.— Frank Conniff (@FrankConniff) September 19, 2012
559 | Mocking Jay Wed, Sep 19, 2012 8:24:44am |
560 | Lidane Wed, Sep 19, 2012 8:25:32am |
They're really going with this nonsense:
Romney op-ed: Obama "fosters government dependency" tpm.ly/S4Yy7L— Talking Points Memo (@TPM) September 19, 2012
561 | Mocking Jay Wed, Sep 19, 2012 8:26:13am |
re: #560 Lidane
They're really going with this nonsense:
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This is the fight the far-right wants to have.
562 | makeitstop Wed, Sep 19, 2012 8:27:09am |
re: #561 Mocking Jay
This is the fight the far-right wants to have.
I hope they shout it from the rooftops. Wingnuts will cheer, Independents will recoil.
563 | Dark_Falcon Wed, Sep 19, 2012 8:27:59am |
re: #558 bratwurst
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Leave it to Pukecannon to take a conservative position to an illogical conclusion then express that conclusion in a racist way.
/spits
564 | Gus Wed, Sep 19, 2012 8:28:39am |
Hilarious. The wingnuts are trying to make a big deal about the missing two minutes.
Yeah, that's the part where Romney explains that he's "in character" and just making jokes. //
566 | Dark_Falcon Wed, Sep 19, 2012 8:30:13am |
re: #565 Obdicut
What's your opinion of Donald Trump?
He's an ass who uses eminent domain wrongly to take the property of others.
567 | Petero1818 Wed, Sep 19, 2012 8:30:37am |
re: #562 makeitstop
I hope they shout it from the rooftops. Wingnuts will cheer, Independents will recoil.
Its interesting. I do wonder what their internal polling is showing here. Could they be that wrong? 2 things possibly going on:
1. That their internal polling on the base is so dismal that they need to go off the deep end to shore it up.
2. That this aspect of the platform is polling well with independents.
I just don't see the second, but the first is awfully shortsighted.
568 | Mocking Jay Wed, Sep 19, 2012 8:30:38am |
re: #564 Gus
Hilarious. The wingnuts are trying to make a big deal about the missing two minutes.
Yeah, that's the part where Romney explains that he's "in character" and just making jokes. //
"And now let us begin our performance of 'Glengarry Glen Ross' as interpreted by Ayn Rand..."
569 | Lidane Wed, Sep 19, 2012 8:30:47am |
re: #561 Mocking Jay
This is the fight the far-right wants to have.
Good. I hope Obama and Biden keeps pointing out that college students, senior citizens, the working poor, and soldiers are all part of Mitt Romney's lazy, shiftless 47%.
570 | Lidane Wed, Sep 19, 2012 8:31:45am |
re: #564 Gus
Hilarious. The wingnuts are trying to make a big deal about the missing two minutes.
Yeah, that's the part where Romney explains that he's "in character" and just making jokes. //
Is this the part where I draw parallels to Watergate? Weren't there gaps in those tapes as well?
571 | Sheila Broflovski Wed, Sep 19, 2012 8:31:47am |
DERP OF THE DAY
Obama the "president for everyone." Tell that to 20,000 Delphi workers: Obama took away pensions. shar.es/uyijB— Bryan Fischer (@BryanJFischer) September 19, 2012
LIAR. Government had NOTHING to do with internal GM business decision.
572 | Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Wed, Sep 19, 2012 8:32:19am |
re: #569 Lidane
Good. I hope Obama and Biden keeps pointing out that college students, senior citizens, the working poor, and soldiers are all part of Mitt Romney's lazy, shiftless 47%.
Of course they're lazy and shiftless. Look at all the complaining they are doing about such a simple task as getting proper ID in order to vote!
/// :p
573 | Obdicut Wed, Sep 19, 2012 8:32:53am |
re: #566 Dark_Falcon
He's an ass who uses eminent domain wrongly to take the property of others.
Why do you think Mitt Romney relies on his advice and counsel, and endorses him in such a public way? Isn't it a little embarrassing to have that going on?
574 | Gus Wed, Sep 19, 2012 8:33:36am |
re: #570 Lidane
Is this the part where I draw parallels to Watergate? Weren't there gaps in those tapes as well?
Maybe. It'll be a shiny object for the Twitchy idiots.
575 | Interesting Times Wed, Sep 19, 2012 8:33:37am |
re: #564 Gus
Hilarious. The wingnuts are trying to make a big deal about the missing two minutes.
If Mitt sings in those missing 2 minutes, @davidcorndc please spare us— Craig Crawford (@craig_crawford) September 19, 2012
576 | wrenchwench Wed, Sep 19, 2012 8:35:06am |
re: #558 bratwurst
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His sister, Bay Buchanan was unleashed by the Romney campaign yesterday and the day before to defend Romney from himself.
577 | bratwurst Wed, Sep 19, 2012 8:35:34am |
re: #569 Lidane
Good. I hope Obama and Biden keeps pointing out that college students, senior citizens, the working poor, and soldiers are all part of Mitt Romney's lazy, shiftless 47%.
Be fair, he didn't say people like college students, senior citizens and the working poor who don't pay income tax are lazy and shiftless...he said they don't take personal responsibility and care for their lives!
578 | Lidane Wed, Sep 19, 2012 8:35:34am |
For when you're trying to find the right cheese to go with Mitt's whine:
579 | Gus Wed, Sep 19, 2012 8:35:35am |
#missing2min: youtu.be/dQw4w9WgXcQ— Gus (@Gus_802) September 19, 2012
580 | Petero1818 Wed, Sep 19, 2012 8:35:48am |
re: #575 Interesting Times
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Before anything else happens, Mitt needs to tell us what he alleges transpired in the other 2 minutes. Lets play this out.
581 | Gus Wed, Sep 19, 2012 8:36:19am |
David Brooks, shorter: Mitt, Did $100,000,000 trust fund to your sons teach a culture of dependency? Did they work hard? Pay taxes on that?— Eaglewoman? (@EAGLEjme) September 19, 2012
582 | AK-47% Wed, Sep 19, 2012 8:36:27am |
re: #571 Sheila Brovlofski
DERP OF THE DAY
Obama the "president for everyone." Tell that to 20,000 Delphi workers: Obama took away pensions
LIAR. Government had NOTHING to do with internal GM business decision.
It is said that if you save someone's life, you are responsible for them for the rest of their days. Obama saved GM, therefore, heis responsible for thier pensions...
583 | Killgore Trout Wed, Sep 19, 2012 8:36:29am |
Tunisian ruling party green-lights protests against French cartoons
Tunisia's ruling party said on Wednesday that Muslims have "the right to protest" against the publication in France of cartoons mocking the Prophet Mohammed as long as they do so peacefully.
"Ennahda backs the right of Muslims to protest and calls on the use of peaceful and civilized means," the Islamist party that leads the governing coalition in Tunis said in a statement.
It branded French weekly Charlie Hebdo's publication of cartoons of Mohammed, one portraying him naked, as "a new attack against the Prophet."
It said the caricatures, which came hot on the heels of a US-produced low-budget movie that mocks Islam, were an attempt to "derail the Arab Spring and push it into conflict with the West."
It said that was a "trap" that the Arab world should "not fall into."
584 | Gus Wed, Sep 19, 2012 8:37:13am |
How can a fucking rich asshole that was born with a silver spoon in his mouth talk about a culture of dependency?
Fuck you Mitt!
:)
585 | Dark_Falcon Wed, Sep 19, 2012 8:37:39am |
586 | Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Wed, Sep 19, 2012 8:37:55am |
re: #575 Interesting Times
My bet is that his face slipped off. Like Yul Brynner's in _Westworld_.
587 | bratwurst Wed, Sep 19, 2012 8:38:43am |
Why does Romney keep demanding that more video be released? Does the final minute have him saying "Just kidding, guys"?— daveweigel (@daveweigel) September 19, 2012
588 | Lidane Wed, Sep 19, 2012 8:39:07am |
GOP Congressional candidate says Mideast turmoil is because of "girly men" in the White House thkpr.gs/PTnhQo— ThinkProgress (@thinkprogress) September 19, 2012
589 | Interesting Times Wed, Sep 19, 2012 8:39:09am |
re: #586 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste
My bet is that his face slipped off. Like Yul Brynner's in _Westworld_.
I'm thinking such a thing would look more like this.
590 | Dark_Falcon Wed, Sep 19, 2012 8:40:11am |
re: #582 Expand Your Ground
It is said that if you save someone's life, you are responsible for them for the rest of their days. Obama saved GM, therefore, heis responsible for thier pensions...
There is also the fact that the Federal Government still has a sizable stake in GM, so it can be argued that they should have used it if they really believed in pensions.
591 | Gus Wed, Sep 19, 2012 8:40:18am |
So to recap...
How can a fucking rich asshole that was born with a silver spoon in his mouth talk about a culture of dependency?
Fuck you Mitt!
:)
592 | Killgore Trout Wed, Sep 19, 2012 8:40:33am |
Al-Azhar slams French Mohammed cartoons
Sunni Islam's highest authority on Wednesday condemned a French weekly's publication of cartoons of a naked Prophet Mohammed, with the region still reeling from an anti-Islam film that sparked deadly protests.
Al-Azhar expressed "its and all Muslims' utmost rejection of the insistence of a French publication in printing caricatures offensive to Islam and its Prophet, the prophet of humanity," Grand Imam Ahmed al-Tayyeb said in a statement.
He said that such acts "that fuel hatred in the name of freedom are completely rejected... Freedom should stop (where it affects) other people's freedoms," in a statement carried by the official MENA news agency.
....
On Saturday, Tayyeb had called for an international ban on all formes of attacks against Islam after the airing the film "Innocence of Muslims."He underlined "the need for an international resolution (banning) any attack on Muslim religious symbols," in a statement addressed to UN Secretary General Ban Ki-moon.
The resolution should "criminalise attacks on Islamic symbols and on those of other religions, after the violence against those who provoked challenges to world peace and international security," said Tayyeb.
593 | lawhawk Wed, Sep 19, 2012 8:40:43am |
re: #583 Killgore Trout
Green lights peaceful protests.
Ennahda backs the right of Muslims to protest and calls on the use of peaceful and civilized means," the Islamist party that leads the governing coalition in Tunis said in a statement.
He's right that if they riot and cause mayhem and damage, let alone injuries and deaths, it plays right into the anti-Muslim groups' sentiments - the whole clash of civilizations bit.
To me, it's fine that they okay peaceful protests to criticize the free speech acts of private actors in France (or elsewhere). That too is free speech. It's when there are those who incite others to violence over the exercise of speech by others (using blasphemy as an excuse) that it crosses the line. Those responsible for inciting people to violence must be held accountable for their actions.
594 | Dark_Falcon Wed, Sep 19, 2012 8:41:29am |
re: #589 Interesting Times
I'm thinking such a thing would look more like this.
No, thats what happens where you take the mask off of one of us.
///
595 | Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Wed, Sep 19, 2012 8:42:13am |
re: #588 Lidane
More evidence of the widespread need for better education regarding science and logic. But then again we all know that politics and demagoguery requires none of that - and in fact are poison to the latter.
596 | Gus Wed, Sep 19, 2012 8:43:17am |
RONALD REAGAN: Championed the #EITC, which allowed millions of working poor to pay no federal income tax. #47percent yfrog.com/ocafwboj— CAP Action: Congress (@CAPcongress) September 19, 2012
597 | Gus Wed, Sep 19, 2012 8:44:13am |
Forensic tests show George Zimmerman's was the only DNA identified on the grip of the gun used to kill Trayvon Martin. abcactionnews.com/dpp/news/state...— ABC Action News (@abcactionnews) September 19, 2012
598 | Killgore Trout Wed, Sep 19, 2012 8:44:13am |
re: #593 lawhawk
Green lights peaceful protests.
He's right that if they riot and cause mayhem and damage, let alone injuries and deaths, it plays right into the anti-Muslim groups' sentiments - the whole clash of civilizations bit.
To me, it's fine that they okay peaceful protests to criticize the free speech acts of private actors in France (or elsewhere). That too is free speech. It's when there are those who incite others to violence over the exercise of speech by others (using blasphemy as an excuse) that it crosses the line. Those responsible for inciting people to violence must be held accountable for their actions.
The Muslim Bros and the new Islamist government in Tunis are playing both sides. Calling for these protests then, as the ruling government, having to shut them down when they get out of hand. They know the protests aren't going to be peaceful. They are destabilizing their own countries and falling into the very trap that they claim they're avoiding.
599 | AK-47% Wed, Sep 19, 2012 8:44:58am |
Even the partial quote that Romney cites indicates that Obama wants to redistribute (government resources, not private ones) to allow everyone a chance to succeed.
that is a far cry from encouraging dependency, and something that is often forgotten by the rabid free-marketers out there: the Free market is not some abstract ideological notion, it is a human institution.
It is one that depends on a functioning physical, legal and regulatory infrastructure, and one that depends on an educated, healthy and qualified workforce.
And those are the very sort of things that the Free Market does not concern itself with, just as Mitt cannot bring himself to be concerned with the 47%
600 | Dark_Falcon Wed, Sep 19, 2012 8:45:06am |
re: #592 Killgore Trout
A proper reply follows:
TO: Grand Imam Ahmed al-Tayyeb
RE: Your demand for law that would "criminalise attacks on Islamic symbols and on those of other religions".
NUTS!
- The United States of America
601 | Lidane Wed, Sep 19, 2012 8:46:10am |
Hey guys! We shouldn't worry about all the turmoil in the ME. That's just God getting your attention:
Televangelist Jim Bakker said God wants to "get your attention" by allowing more attacks, turmoil bit.ly/RwDhV1— Right Wing Watch (@RightWingWatch) September 19, 2012
602 | Dark_Falcon Wed, Sep 19, 2012 8:47:01am |
re: #597 Gus
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Useful, though not definitive. Thank you for posting that info, Gus.
604 | AK-47% Wed, Sep 19, 2012 8:49:02am |
re: #603 Cannadian Club Akbar
Jim Bakker is still relevant?
says a lot about the state of modern American Christian evangelism
605 | Dark_Falcon Wed, Sep 19, 2012 8:49:04am |
re: #601 Lidane
Hey guys! We shouldn't worry about all the turmoil in the ME. That's just God getting your attention:
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Jim Baker and Fred Phelps: Together at Last. Because I cannot see a difference in substance between the two of them here.
606 | Gus Wed, Sep 19, 2012 8:49:28am |
Because printing cartoons ridiculing the Prophet Mohamed, right now, is the responsible thing to do.
//
607 | Page 3 in the Binder of Women Wed, Sep 19, 2012 8:50:41am |
re: #580 Petero1818
Before anything else happens, Mitt needs to tell us what he alleges transpired in the other 2 minutes. Lets play this out.
He high fived a Hispanic waiter. All good!
608 | Cannadian Club Akbar Wed, Sep 19, 2012 8:51:01am |
re: #606 Gus
Because printing cartoons ridiculing the Prophet Mohamed, right now, is the responsible thing to do.
//
The only way they can make it better is to have a cartoon of a pig eating a Koran.
/
609 | Killgore Trout Wed, Sep 19, 2012 8:51:16am |
re: #606 Gus
Because printing cartoons ridiculing the Prophet Mohamed, right now, is the responsible thing to do.
//
It's a dangerous thing to do. It was dangerous a few years ago, it's dangerous today, and it'll be dangerous years from now. The timing doesn't make much difference.
610 | Gus Wed, Sep 19, 2012 8:51:57am |
re: #609 Killgore Trout
It's a dangerous thing to do. It was dangerous a few years ago, it's dangerous today, and it'll be dangerous years from now. The timing doesn't make much difference.
Of course it makes a difference.
611 | Gus Wed, Sep 19, 2012 8:52:35am |
France to Shut Embassies Over Muhammad Cartoons
The French government said on Wednesday it would close French embassies and schools in some 20 countries on Friday, a holy day in the Muslim world, for fear of reprisals after satirical weekly Charlie Hebdo published cartoons of the Prophet Muhammad.
"Is it relevant and intelligent in this environment to add fuel to the fire? The answer is no," Foreign Minister Laurent Fabius told France Info radio. "I'm very worried ... and when I saw this I immediately issued instructions for special security precautions to be taken in all the countries where it could be a problem."
Issues of the magazine hit newsstands on Wednesday with the front cover showing an Orthodox Jew pushing a figure in a wheelchair wearing a turban. There were several caricatures of the Prophet on the inside pages, including some of him naked...
612 | Dark_Falcon Wed, Sep 19, 2012 8:52:58am |
re: #606 Gus
Because printing cartoons ridiculing the Prophet Mohamed, right now, is the responsible thing to do.
//
No, now's a good time. It's a good way to push back against the rioter's veto.
613 | Petero1818 Wed, Sep 19, 2012 8:54:36am |
Well Faux News is doing its part today.
Headline:
'Redistribution' vs. 'Victims': Dueling Quotes Shake Up White House Race
If they find success with this outright lie and fabrication I will puke. By the way, I read the article. It did not even mention the fact that the redistribution quote was with respect to government resources.
614 | Gus Wed, Sep 19, 2012 8:54:53am |
re: #612 Dark_Falcon
No, now's a good time. It's a good way to push back against the rioter's veto.
Idealism over common sense. This will not change anything and only make matters worse.
615 | blueraven Wed, Sep 19, 2012 8:55:28am |
re: #612 Dark_Falcon
No, now's a good time. It's a good way to push back against the rioter's veto.
It's a good time to sit back and watch innocent people get killed.
616 | Gus Wed, Sep 19, 2012 8:56:16am |
Issues of the magazine hit newsstands on Wednesday with the front cover showing an Orthodox Jew pushing a figure in a wheelchair wearing a turban.
617 | Dark_Falcon Wed, Sep 19, 2012 8:56:48am |
re: #614 Gus
Idealism over common sense. This will not change anything and only make matters worse.
Let them hate and attack. If they do it in France, it lets police crack down and jail the worst of the haters. And the violence will remind those who might otherwise forget of the continuing threat radical Islam poses.
619 | Petero1818 Wed, Sep 19, 2012 8:57:38am |
re: #612 Dark_Falcon
No, now's a good time. It's a good way to push back against the rioter's veto.
For some reason I think of George Zimmerman saying to himself, now is a good time to follow that kid with a hoodie. Its a good way to puch back against crime in our neighborhood.
620 | Killgore Trout Wed, Sep 19, 2012 8:58:01am |
Silence infidel!
Pakistan activists target controversial French magazine's website in prophet row
Pakistani hackers claim they were responsible for bringing down a French magazine website after it published nude cartoons of the Prophet Mohammed.
Website still down.
624 | Dark_Falcon Wed, Sep 19, 2012 9:01:21am |
re: #619 Petero1818
For some reason I think of George Zimmerman saying to himself, now is a good time to follow that kid with a hoodie. Its a good way to puch back against crime in our neighborhood.
The problem with that analogy is that by Zimmerman's own account Trayvon Martin had taken no aggressive action prior to that point, while the Islamists have indeed already acted aggressively.
625 | Gus Wed, Sep 19, 2012 9:01:39am |
Notice how the defense is slowing down. I wonder why that would be?
626 | Lidane Wed, Sep 19, 2012 9:01:55am |
I need a cigarette after reading this Peggy Noonan piece just eviscerating Romney: blogs.wsj.com/peggynoonan/20...— Markos Moulitsas (@markos) September 19, 2012
627 | wrenchwench Wed, Sep 19, 2012 9:02:50am |
re: #624 Dark_Falcon
The problem with that analogy is that by Zimmerman's own account Trayvon Martin had taken no aggressive action prior to that point, while the Islamists have indeed already acted aggressively.
The problem with that is it's like saying some black kid somewhere looked threatening so might as well incite more of them to remind people what a threat they are.
628 | lawhawk Wed, Sep 19, 2012 9:03:00am |
re: #625 Gus
They're running out of money. They've got to conserve it until trial.
629 | Mocking Jay Wed, Sep 19, 2012 9:03:26am |
The GOPs senate polls continue to be awful. Trend much clearer there than in presidential race.
— Nate Silver (@fivethirtyeight) September 19, 2012
630 | Gus Wed, Sep 19, 2012 9:03:38am |
re: #628 lawhawk
They're running out of money. They've got to conserve it until trial.
I was talking about people defending the cartoon. :)
631 | Killgore Trout Wed, Sep 19, 2012 9:04:33am |
re: #621 Gus
Here's the context...
Prophet Mohammed cartoons: editor of French magazine Charlie Hebdo defends publishing images amid criticism
The front page cartoon had the wheelchair-bound figure saying "You must not mock" under the headline "Untouchable 2", a reference to a hugely popular French movie about a paralysed rich white man and his black assistant. Inside pages had cartoons whose captions mentioned the Prophet and several caricatures of the Prophet showed him naked.
...
At Charlie Hebdo's offices, where police had been on guard since the early hours of the morning, the editor defended the publication saying he regularly lampooned all forms of extremism.
"One gets the impression it's okay for Charlie Hebdo to criticise the Catholic extreme right. But one isn't allowed to poke fun at Muslim fundamentalists. It's clearly a new rule that we will have to take note of. But we won't respect it," the editor, Charb, told reporters who had been waiting outside since before daybreak. Charb does not use a family name.
632 | Mocking Jay Wed, Sep 19, 2012 9:04:40am |
Op-Ed by @mittromney | Now That My Campaign Is Over, I'd Like To Talk To You All About The Church Of Latter-Day Saints onion.com/PA8fgg
— The Onion (@TheOnion) September 19, 2012
633 | Dark_Falcon Wed, Sep 19, 2012 9:05:49am |
re: #627 wrenchwench
The problem with that is it's like saying some black kid somewhere looked threatening so might as well incite more of them to remind people what a threat they are.
Ah, but again we come back to the fact that we're talking about how Trayvon Martin looked, not about how he in fact acted prior to Zimmerman getting out of his truck.
Whereas with the Islamists they have already acted violently and leveled unreasonable demands at us.
634 | Petero1818 Wed, Sep 19, 2012 9:06:05am |
re: #624 Dark_Falcon
The problem with that analogy is that by Zimmerman's own account Trayvon Martin had taken no aggressive action prior to that point, while the Islamists have indeed already acted aggressively.
I am well aware that it is not a perfect analogy. However, one needs to take care not to unduly inflame in a particular circumstance because of the law of unintended consequences. Zimmerman did not need to do what he did and both paid a price. There is no need to inflame here. We all know that rioting in response to religious defamation is wrong. Why escalate. We know what will happen. The rioting will intensify and tens if not hundreds will die. What is the point unless the goal is to sacrifice innocent life to focus more attention on the idiotic actions of zealots.
635 | Gus Wed, Sep 19, 2012 9:06:24am |
re: #631 Killgore Trout
Here's the context...
Prophet Mohammed cartoons: editor of French magazine Charlie Hebdo defends publishing images amid criticism...
Is "untouchable" an anti-Jewish meme? I have to Google this.
636 | GunstarGreen Wed, Sep 19, 2012 9:06:59am |
re: #617 Dark_Falcon
Let them hate and attack. If they do it in France, it lets police crack down and jail the worst of the haters. And the violence will remind those who might otherwise forget of the continuing threat radical Islam poses.
Did anybody ever get a read on what religion the Colorado theater attacker followed? Or that guy that shot up the Unitarian church? Or the one that murdered George Tiller?
638 | Sheila Broflovski Wed, Sep 19, 2012 9:08:15am |
re: #621 Gus
What am I missing? A random Jew is doing something kind for a random disabled Muslim. I don't see where the Muslim is THE Mohammed or that the Jew is THE Moses or THE King David or THE Lubavitcher Rebbe.
639 | Gus Wed, Sep 19, 2012 9:08:53am |
re: #638 Sheila Brovlofski
What am I missing? A random Jew is doing something kind for a random disabled Muslim. I don't see where the Muslim is THE Mohammed or that the Jew is THE Moses or THE King David or THE Lubavitcher Rebbe.
I don't either.
640 | lawhawk Wed, Sep 19, 2012 9:09:45am |
re: #630 Gus
Oh, I thought you were commenting on the Zimmerman trial news following the ABC report about the DNA on the gun grip.
641 | Dark_Falcon Wed, Sep 19, 2012 9:10:21am |
re: #636 GunstarGreen
Did anybody ever get a read on what religion the Colorado theater attacker followed? Or that guy that shot up the Unitarian church? Or the one that murdered George Tiller?
What are you saying? I don't see how that is at all relevant.
642 | Petero1818 Wed, Sep 19, 2012 9:10:54am |
re: #638 Sheila Brovlofski
What am I missing? A random Jew is doing something kind for a random disabled Muslim. I don't see where the Muslim is THE Mohammed or that the Jew is THE Moses or THE King David or THE Lubavitcher Rebbe.
I think, and I may be mistaken, that they are putting Jews and Muslims together as groups that try to stifle free speech. I think it is a jab at Muslims for the Riots, and Jews for attempting to paint any criticism of Israel as anti semitism.
643 | blueraven Wed, Sep 19, 2012 9:11:03am |
re: #637 Gus
I have no problem with this really. But now? It's fucking dumb.
I wish instead, the magazine had commented on the ridiculous response by protestors over the anti-muslim film.
This is a time for ridicule, but this seems like a dare more than anything else.
644 | Lidane Wed, Sep 19, 2012 9:12:00am |
Wow. Peggy Noonan really does let Mitt have it:
As for those workers who don’t pay any income taxes, they pay payroll taxes—Social Security and Medicare. They want to rise in the world and make more money. They’d like to file a 1040 because that will mean they got a raise or a better job.
They too are potential Romney voters, because they’re suffering under the no-growth economy.
So: Romney’s theory of the case is all wrong. His understanding of the political topography is wrong.
And his tone is fatalistic. I can’t win these guys who will only vote their economic interests, but I can win these guys who will vote their economic interests, plus some guys in the middle, whoever they are.
That’s too small and pinched and narrow. That’s not how Republicans emerge victorious—”I can’t win these guys.” You have to have more respect than that, and more affection, you don’t write anyone off, you invite everyone in. Reagan in 1984 used to put out his hand: “Come too, come walk with me.” Come join, come help, whatever is happening in your life.
You know what Romney sounded like? Like a kid new to politics who thinks he got the inside lowdown on how it works from some operative. But those old operatives, they never know how it works. They knew how it worked for one cycle back in the day.
They’re jockeys who rode Seabiscuit and thought they won a race.
645 | AK-47% Wed, Sep 19, 2012 9:12:02am |
re: #612 Dark_Falcon
No, now's a good time. It's a good way to push back against the rioter's veto.
These people will at some point have to learn that in dealing with the West at least, they have to accept the separation of church and state, along with our notions of freedom of speech and artistic freedom.
The state cannot intervene to forbid such speech. It does not have to approve of it or support it in any way. That notion is foreign to them, they are used to living in countries where the state approves everything that is broadcast, published or otherwise released.
And if they want us to recognize and respect their new "democracies", then they had better learn to deal with ours.
646 | Sheila Broflovski Wed, Sep 19, 2012 9:12:45am |
re: #642 Petero1818
I think, and I may be mistaken, that they are putting Jews and Muslims together as groups that try to stifle free speech. I think it is a jab at Muslims for the Riots, and Jews for attempting to paint any criticism of Israel as anti semitism.
I didn't see any photos of Jews rioting. Usually when Jews riot, they attack innocent unsuspecting garbage dumpsters.
647 | lawhawk Wed, Sep 19, 2012 9:16:25am |
re: #639 Gus
It's not the cover art, it is the cartoons inside the edition that are much more risque and likely to offend Muslims.
At the same time, Untouchables 2 seems to be an imagined sequel to a French film. Summary via IMDB:
A rich quadriplegic, living in a mansion in Paris, requires a live-in carer. A young offender turns up for an interview, but he is not really looking to get the job. However, to his surprise, he is hired. The two men then develop a close friendship.
Sort of an opposites attract/different worlds collide in a positive fashion but one that is likely to offend.
648 | Petero1818 Wed, Sep 19, 2012 9:16:28am |
re: #646 Sheila Brovlofski
I didn't see any photos of Jews rioting. Usually when Jews riot, they attack innocent unsuspecting garbage dumpsters.
Not sure what you are saying. I did not say Jews were rioting. My point is that there is a school of thought prevalent in Europe and in pockets in North America that has grown weary of the ADL and Jews generally complaining that attacks on Israel are anti-semitic. There would be many in France (LE PEn) that view Muslims and Jews in a similar way. They are both "L'etranger" they don't belong, and apparently feel that they are not free to criticize them, make fun of them, and legislate against them.
649 | Killgore Trout Wed, Sep 19, 2012 9:16:32am |
re: #635 Gus
Is "untouchable" an anti-Jewish meme? I have to Google this.
It's a reference to a very popular French movie
The Intouchables
Sort of like Driving Miss Daisy. Has nothing to do with antisemitism
650 | makeitstop Wed, Sep 19, 2012 9:16:52am |
re: #644 Lidane
Wow. Peggy Noonan really does let Mitt have it:
If you're a Republican and you've lost Noonan, you're most likely looking at an unprecedented ass-whupping.
652 | GunstarGreen Wed, Sep 19, 2012 9:18:06am |
re: #641 Dark_Falcon
What are you saying? I don't see how that is at all relevant.
What I'm saying is that for all this "reminding people of the threat of Radical Islam" talk, there sure are a lot of cases of domestic terrorism that are perpetrated by non-Muslims. Recent cases, often involving multiple deaths/injuries. Yet I never hear anyone talking about "reminding people of the threat of Radical X".
I mean, I haven't even gotten into the Sikh temple attack, the repeated firebombing of that one mosque...
653 | Mocking Jay Wed, Sep 19, 2012 9:19:30am |
Now trending, for some effing reason... #WhoIsGaryJohnson
654 | Amory Blaine Wed, Sep 19, 2012 9:20:47am |
Channeling Nazi Germany, nasty fuck Mary Matalin says this:
"There are makers and takers, there are producers and there are parasites," she said. "Americans can distinguish between those who have produced and paid in through no fault of their own and because of Obama's horrible polcies who cannot get a job or are underemployed. That's what the campaign is about."
655 | Dark_Falcon Wed, Sep 19, 2012 9:21:04am |
re: #652 GunstarGreen
What I'm saying is that for all this "reminding people of the threat of Radical Islam" talk, there sure are a lot of cases of domestic terrorism that are perpetrated by non-Muslims. Recent cases, often involving multiple deaths/injuries. Yet I never hear anyone talking about "reminding people of the threat of Radical X".
I mean, I haven't even gotten into the Sikh temple attack, the repeated firebombing of that one mosque...
Yet Charles surely used the murder of Dr. Tiller as a warning of the threat posed by anti-abortion evangelical radicals, and the entire legitimate political spectrum used the attack on the Sikh temple as a warning of the threat still posed by neo-Nazis.
656 | makeitstop Wed, Sep 19, 2012 9:21:17am |
re: #653 Mocking Jay
Now trending, for some effing reason... #WhoIsGaryJohnson
HA! Maybe growing numbers of Republicans are putting on the life jackets and about to take the Glibertarian plunge, so to speak?
657 | Mocking Jay Wed, Sep 19, 2012 9:21:55am |
re: #654 Amory Blaine
Channeling Nazi Germany, nasty fuck Mary Matalin says this:
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Eh. This is a no-Godwin zone. Seriously, you could've just said she's gone Galt and been just as funny and, as a bonus, more accurate.
658 | Mocking Jay Wed, Sep 19, 2012 9:22:17am |
re: #656 makeitstop
HA! Maybe growing numbers of Republicans are putting on the life jackets and about to take the Glibertarian plunge, so to speak?
lol
What have you got to lose?!
659 | Dark_Falcon Wed, Sep 19, 2012 9:22:21am |
re: #654 Amory Blaine
Channeling Nazi Germany, nasty fuck Mary Matalin says this:
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Downding for a Godwin's Law violation.
660 | HappyWarrior Wed, Sep 19, 2012 9:22:33am |
[Link: firstread.nbcnews.com...]
“The point we’re trying to make here is under the Obama economy, government dependency is up and economic stagnation is up, and what we’re trying to achieve is getting people off of government dependency and back to a job that pays well and gets them onto a path of prosperity.”
From a guy whose made his career in government, that's rich. Really, get back to me when your party stops using the same government to coddle businesses.
661 | kirkspencer Wed, Sep 19, 2012 9:22:44am |
re: #653 Mocking Jay
Now trending, for some effing reason... #WhoIsGaryJohnson
Gary Johnson is going to be the excuse the Republicans use for losing certain states and hence the election. In other words the claim will be he'll be for Romney v Obama what Perot was for Bush v Clinton or Nader was for Gore v Bush. "If it hadn't been for that strong third party turnout..."
662 | blueraven Wed, Sep 19, 2012 9:23:41am |
663 | HappyWarrior Wed, Sep 19, 2012 9:23:49am |
re: #654 Amory Blaine
Channeling Nazi Germany, nasty fuck Mary Matalin says this:
[Embedded content]
Wow, parasites. Really, that's a really fucked up way of looking at your fellow Americans, Matalin.
664 | Amory Blaine Wed, Sep 19, 2012 9:24:02am |
Going "Galt" is a fantasy in a novel. This is real life.
665 | Gus Wed, Sep 19, 2012 9:25:01am |
re: #659 Dark_Falcon
Downding for a Godwin's Law violation.
Free speech! //
Yeah, I'm not into the Godwins myself.
666 | Mocking Jay Wed, Sep 19, 2012 9:25:52am |
re: #664 Amory Blaine
Going "Galt" is a fantasy in a novel. This is real life.
Let me know when she starts executing Jews and Gypsies, okay?
667 | Gus Wed, Sep 19, 2012 9:25:57am |
Interesting the contrasts between the free speech of Mohamed cartoons and the free speech of Godwin.
668 | Amory Blaine Wed, Sep 19, 2012 9:26:08am |
I can count one one hand my Godwin violations. This is appropriate.
669 | Petero1818 Wed, Sep 19, 2012 9:26:45am |
re: #660 HappyWarrior
Tax cuts are really good. Paying more tax than you are required by law is idiotic. People who make so little that they have tax cuts so that they can eat, are freeloaders.
670 | Gus Wed, Sep 19, 2012 9:26:49am |
IOW. Comparing people to Nazis is prohibited yet ridiculing Mohamed and a culture is OK.
671 | blueraven Wed, Sep 19, 2012 9:27:16am |
re: #664 Amory Blaine
Going "Galt" is a fantasy in a novel. This is real life.
It also represents Objectivism, which is real and would have been totally appropriate.
672 | Mocking Jay Wed, Sep 19, 2012 9:27:51am |
So, sadly, Gary Johnson has fallen off the top ten. BUT! We now have this: #missing2min
673 | Dark_Falcon Wed, Sep 19, 2012 9:28:45am |
re: #670 Gus
IOW. Comparing people to Nazis is prohibited yet ridiculing Mohamed and a culture is OK.
Downdings are not prohibition. They are a simply let people know I don't like something.
674 | lawhawk Wed, Sep 19, 2012 9:29:04am |
re: #661 kirkspencer
Had Gore held NH in 2000, FL would have been a footnote since Gore would have gotten to 270+ without FL. /just sayin'
I don't think this election is going to be that close (as in 2000). I think it's going to be much closer to the 2008 turnout and result and the GOP wont be able to blame the loss on a 3d party candidate either.
If the election is close and the GOP still loses, they will look to blame a 3d party challenger because it takes the heat off their massive failures as it avoids the need for introspection over how divisive their policies truly are.
675 | Mocking Jay Wed, Sep 19, 2012 9:29:57am |
#missing2min Wait, wait, wait...check this out. *dial's phone* Hello? Is this Barack? Yes, I'm looking for Mike Hunt?
— Riddle Me This.... (@EgoAenigma) September 19, 2012
676 | wrenchwench Wed, Sep 19, 2012 9:30:14am |
re: #661 kirkspencer
Gary Johnson is going to be the excuse the Republicans use for losing certain states and hence the election. In other words the claim will be he'll be for Romney v Obama what Perot was for Bush v Clinton or Nader was for Gore v Bush. "If it hadn't been for that strong third party turnout..."
I love the headlines in New Mexico where they say "Johnson Hurts Romney..." Gee, maybe he needs to see a urologist or something.
677 | HappyWarrior Wed, Sep 19, 2012 9:30:14am |
re: #674 lawhawk
Had Gore held NH in 2000, FL would have been a footnote since Gore would have gotten to 270+ without FL. /just sayin'
I don't think this election is going to be that close (as in 2000). I think it's going to be much closer to the 2008 turnout and result and the GOP wont be able to blame the loss on a 3d party candidate either.
If the election is close and the GOP still loses, they will look to blame a 3d party challenger because it takes the heat off their massive failures as it avoids the need for introspection over how divisive their policies truly are.
Well introspection is what they badly need at this point win or lose honestly.
678 | lawhawk Wed, Sep 19, 2012 9:31:02am |
re: #675 Mocking Jay
Sorry, but the missing two minutes is the conversation that Mitt had with Jets coach Rex Ryan on how to unleash the Tebow/wildcat - fixing the Jets offense to the point that they will be the most potent offensive machine in football history. /
679 | bratwurst Wed, Sep 19, 2012 9:31:20am |
re: #673 Dark_Falcon
Downdings are not prohibition. They are a simply let people know I don't like something.
But you are cool with what Mary Matalin said as long as it helps Mitt win I presume?
680 | blueraven Wed, Sep 19, 2012 9:32:28am |
re: #679 bratwurst
But you are cool with what Mary Matalin said as long as it helps Mitt win I presume?
Come on..he didn't say that!
681 | Killgore Trout Wed, Sep 19, 2012 9:33:21am |
re: #667 Gus
Interesting the contrasts between the free speech of Mohamed cartoons and the free speech of Godwin.
Yes, it is interesting. Nobody wants to pass laws preventing you from calling people Nazis, Nobody will kill you for calling people Nazis, Embassies around the world don't shut down when you call people Nazis, Nobody is claiming you shouldn't call people Nazis today because a cleric in a foreign country says so. The interesting differences are countless.
682 | danarchy Wed, Sep 19, 2012 9:34:19am |
re: #614 Gus
Idealism over common sense. This will not change anything and only make matters worse.
Part of me agrees with this and part of me thinks if they are going to get that worked up over cartoons, fuck em.
Maybe if it became common place and people weren't so terrified to do it that it wasn't such a big deal when someone did the rage would burn out and eventually they will just roll their eyes and get on with their day like the rest of us(to paraphrase the onion) I mean you can only riot so much before you have to get back to the business of living right.
Of course then you think how many people have to die for that to happen and is that cost worth it. Tough question.
683 | Dark_Falcon Wed, Sep 19, 2012 9:34:44am |
I've often posted pages about the National Republican Trust (which is not actually part of the GOP) and its founder Scott Wheeler. Well now ole Scott is supporting Michele Bachmann in her Congressional campaign. His latest DERP is the following ad that he's trying to raise funds to buy airtime for:
684 | Gus Wed, Sep 19, 2012 9:35:02am |
re: #681 Killgore Trout
Yes, it is interesting. Nobody wants to pass laws preventing you from calling people Nazis, Nobody will kill you for calling people Nazis, Embassies around the world don't shut down when you call people Nazis, Nobody is claiming you shouldn't call people Nazis today because a cleric in a foreign country says so. The interesting differences are countless.
I knew that would come up. Right, people won't riot because you call them Nazis unlike THOSE people. Doesn't help.
685 | Amory Blaine Wed, Sep 19, 2012 9:35:28am |
Calling Americans parasites is fair game now thanks to the GOP. Income's not the right height.
686 | Gus Wed, Sep 19, 2012 9:35:36am |
re: #682 danarchy
Part of me agrees with this and part of me thinks if they are going to get that worked up over cartoons, fuck em.
Maybe if it became common place and people weren't so terrified to do it that it wasn't such a big deal when someone did the rage would burn out and eventually they will just roll their eyes and get on with their day like the rest of us(to paraphrase the onion) I mean you can only riot so much before you have to get back to the business of living right.
Of course then you think how many people have to die for that to happen and is that cost worth it. Tough question.
Then expect a lot of people to die in the mean time.
687 | blueraven Wed, Sep 19, 2012 9:36:00am |
re: #681 Killgore Trout
Yes, it is interesting. Nobody wants to pass laws preventing you from calling people Nazis, Nobody will kill you for calling people Nazis, Embassies around the world don't shut down when you call people Nazis, Nobody is claiming you shouldn't call people Nazis today because a cleric in a foreign country says so. The interesting differences are countless.
Yes, Godwin's law is a common sense one.
Maybe there should be a common sense law that says one should not gratuitously attack other religions just because you can.
688 | AK-47% Wed, Sep 19, 2012 9:37:00am |
re: #687 blueraven
Yes, Godwin's law is a common sense one.
Maybe there should be a common sense law that says one should not gratuitously attack other religions just because you can.
Maybe there should be a law that prohibits you from violently attacking people who criticize your religion, too...
689 | Killgore Trout Wed, Sep 19, 2012 9:37:18am |
re: #682 danarchy
Part of me agrees with this and part of me thinks if they are going to get that worked up over cartoons, fuck em.
Maybe if it became common place and people weren't so terrified to do it that it wasn't such a big deal when someone did the rage would burn out and eventually they will just roll their eyes and get on with their day like the rest of us(to paraphrase the onion) I mean you can only riot so much before you have to get back to the business of living right.
Of course then you think how many people have to die for that to happen and is that cost worth it. Tough question.
It is a tough question and not one to be taken lightly. I do tend to think that accommodating the religious sensibilities of violent extremists only perpetuates the problem. Any hint of fear or self censorship only emboldens them.
690 | kirkspencer Wed, Sep 19, 2012 9:37:26am |
re: #674 lawhawk
Had Gore held NH in 2000, FL would have been a footnote since Gore would have gotten to 270+ without FL. /just sayin'
I don't think this election is going to be that close (as in 2000). I think it's going to be much closer to the 2008 turnout and result and the GOP wont be able to blame the loss on a 3d party candidate either.
If the election is close and the GOP still loses, they will look to blame a 3d party challenger because it takes the heat off their massive failures as it avoids the need for introspection over how divisive their policies truly are.
Doesn't matter whether it's close or not, some will use Gary Johnson as their excuse. Not alone, of course -- we'll hear about voter fraud/stolen elections (the recent court decisions about voter ID) and how Romney wasn't really a conservative and many other excuses. But he'll be one of the common excuses.
Oh, yeah, another prediction. I think this year is the peak GOP vote as proportion of voters. We've been seeing an uptick in populations that don't vote GOP (non-white, young, etc.) and I think they'll cross the threshold of majority between now and 2016. I'm guessing the year it'll be obvious will be the year Castro runs for governor of Texas, which will probably be 2014.
691 | blueraven Wed, Sep 19, 2012 9:37:43am |
re: #688 47 turn it up to 11
Maybe there should be a law that prohibits you from violently attacking people who criticize your religion, too...
There are real laws for that.
692 | Mocking Jay Wed, Sep 19, 2012 9:37:43am |
SHOCKING NEW VIDEO OFFERS DEFINITIVE PROOF THAT OBAMA FAVORS REDISTRIBUTION: slate.com/blogs/moneybox…
— Matt Yglesias (@mattyglesias) September 19, 2012
693 | Sheila Broflovski Wed, Sep 19, 2012 9:38:59am |
DERPTY DERP
Obama shamelessly buying votes. Since gutting work requirement, 2x as many able-bodied now on food stamps. bit.ly/NBOSFt#.UFnyYO...— Bryan Fischer (@BryanJFischer) September 19, 2012
694 | AK-47% Wed, Sep 19, 2012 9:39:27am |
re: #682 danarchy
Part of me agrees with this and part of me thinks if they are going to get that worked up over cartoons, fuck em.
Repeat: if these people want us to respect and support their new "democracies", then they need to start getting used to the way we do democracy in the west: separation of church and state, freedom of speech and artistic expression.
If they are trying to achieve democracy without respecting the latter, they are not going to get very far.
695 | Sheila Broflovski Wed, Sep 19, 2012 9:40:07am |
Does Derpshit Bryan Fischer believe that people actually WANT to be on food stamps instead of having a decent job?
696 | Kragar Wed, Sep 19, 2012 9:40:23am |
Rick Scott Paid Absentee Ballot Broker $5,000 For ‘Contract Labor’
In the name of election integrity, Florida governor Rick Scott (R) has aggressively pursued voter purges, restricted voter registration drives and reduced early voting hours. However, his campaign finance reports reveal Scott’s 2010 campaign paid $5,000 to an accused absentee ballot broker for unspecified “contract labor.”
Before the 2011 municipal elections, 74-year-old Hialeh resident Emelina Llanes was accused of being a boletera, or someone who ostensibly helps voters deliver their ballots, but often tries to influence or bribe voters as they fill them out. Llanes, who worked for Mayor Carlos Hernandez at the time, visited elderly members of the community to talk to them about politics and delivered dozens of ballots.
Though records show Scott hired her for his gubernatorial campaign, her work for him remains unclear. Ballot brokering is one of the few methods of voter fraud that is in fact a problem in Miami-Dade County; other boleteros have been charged with forging signatures and taking advantage of senile voters. The Miami Herald’s report on boleteros may provide some insight into Scott’s payment:
“The ‘boleteros’ hover on the edge of the letter and spirit of the law,” said Christian Ulvert, a top state Democratic campaign consultant who has run races in Little Havana and Miami Beach.“These boleteros in Miami Dade have become like some political consultants,” Ulvert added. “You don’t want them working for you. But you don’t want them working against you. So some candidates figure you just have to pay them.”
697 | Dark_Falcon Wed, Sep 19, 2012 9:40:45am |
re: #694 47 turn it up to 11
Repeat: if these people want us to respect and support their new "democracies", then they need to start getting used to the way we do democracy in the west: separation of church and state, freedom of speech and artistic expression.
If they are trying to achieve democracy without respecting the latter, they are not going to get very far.
Democracy should not mean "tyranny of the majority".
698 | kirkspencer Wed, Sep 19, 2012 9:41:13am |
re: #695 Sheila Brovlofski
Does Derpshit Bryan Fischer believe that people actually WANT to be on food stamps instead of having a decent job?
Does he realize what the requirements are, besides the so-called work requirement, to be on food stamps?
699 | blueraven Wed, Sep 19, 2012 9:41:22am |
re: #695 Sheila Brovlofski
Does Derpshit Bryan Fischer believe that people actually WANT to be on food stamps instead of having a decent job?
Yes, he does.
700 | Sheila Broflovski Wed, Sep 19, 2012 9:42:30am |
ZOMG NEW OUTRAGEOUS OUTRAGE:
Jay-Z and Beyonce had $800 bottles of champagne stacked up at their Dem fundraiser!1!ty
701 | Gus Wed, Sep 19, 2012 9:43:26am |
re: #694 47 turn it up to 11
Repeat: if these people want us to respect and support their new "democracies", then they need to start getting used to the way we do democracy in the west: separation of church and state, freedom of speech and artistic expression.
If they are trying to achieve democracy without respecting the latter, they are not going to get very far.
You mean like Poland? Or would that be like our second largest ally in the Middle East, Saudi Arabia. No protests there. Like that?
702 | HappyWarrior Wed, Sep 19, 2012 9:43:44am |
re: #700 Sheila Brovlofski
ZOMG NEW OUTRAGEOUS OUTRAGE:
Jay-Z and Beyonce had $800 bottles of champagne stacked up at their Dem fundraiser!1!ty
I'm surprised they haven't freaked out over Jay-Z hosting a fundraiser for POTUS considering how they flipped their shit when he invited that rappper, Common to a WH function.
703 | Sheila Broflovski Wed, Sep 19, 2012 9:44:02am |
re: #698 kirkspencer
Does he realize what the requirements are, besides the so-called work requirement, to be on food stamps?
Maybe he doesn't realize that a lot of people on food stamps also work full time. (Wal-Mart, Staples, Target, KFC, etc.)
704 | Mocking Jay Wed, Sep 19, 2012 9:44:58am |
Ouch.
Daily Kos: Mitt Romney's dad was on welfare dailykos.com/story/2012/09/… via @dailykos hahahahahaha
— DL Hughley (@RealDlHughley) September 19, 2012
705 | HappyWarrior Wed, Sep 19, 2012 9:45:00am |
It's easier just to lie which is Fischer's sole job at this point.
706 | Mocking Jay Wed, Sep 19, 2012 9:45:37am |
re: #700 Sheila Brovlofski
ZOMG NEW OUTRAGEOUS OUTRAGE:
Jay-Z and Beyonce had $800 bottles of champagne stacked up at their Dem fundraiser!1!ty
WHY DO THE RIGHT WING PUNDITS HATE SUCCESS?!?!?
707 | AK-47% Wed, Sep 19, 2012 9:46:03am |
re: #701 Gus
You mean like Poland? Or would that be like our second largest ally in the Middle East, Saudi Arabia. No protests there. Like that?
Saudi Arabia is a stinking feudal monarchy. Our dependency on their natural resources forces us to just shut up and acquiesce to however they wish to run their country.
And if a "democracy" ever starts to gain traction there, we will be stuck between an Iraq and a much harder place.
708 | Dark_Falcon Wed, Sep 19, 2012 9:46:14am |
re: #703 Sheila Brovlofski
Maybe he doesn't realize that a lot of people on food stamps also work full time. (Wal-Mart, Staples, Target, KFC, etc.)
Bryan Fischer just doesn't care about the facts. If he tramples them, them to him he's just Lying For Jesus.
709 | HappyWarrior Wed, Sep 19, 2012 9:46:19am |
710 | lawhawk Wed, Sep 19, 2012 9:46:51am |
Parasites can be industrious, and yet detrimental. Kinda like billionaires that hoard money and wealth beyond anyone's wildest dreams but seek policies that allow them to expand and extend their wealth at the expense of everyone else - including the poor and middle class. /ows
711 | Mocking Jay Wed, Sep 19, 2012 9:47:40am |
What the hell is wrong with this party?
GOP filibusters vets jobs bill they mostly wrote. Is it the jobs you don't like? or the vets? It's mostly a GOP bill! Astonishing.
— Rachel Maddow MSNBC (@maddow) September 19, 2012
713 | GunstarGreen Wed, Sep 19, 2012 9:48:11am |
re: #695 Sheila Brovlofski
Does Derpshit Bryan Fischer believe that people actually WANT to be on food stamps instead of having a decent job?
Yes. To avaricious people, it is inconceivable that anyone could be getting something for free to assist them in continuing to exist, but be willing to give that free thing up in exchange for a life that doesn't suck as much. They are also incapable of conceiving of a person that lives off of so little that foodstamps are a necessary thing to prevent starvation.
This is also where the oft-cited "Half the country doesn't even pay income tax!" outrage comes from. They cannot wrap their heads around the idea that that doesn't mean that half the country evades taxes somehow, but rather that half the country makes so little that there is nothing to tax.
714 | blueraven Wed, Sep 19, 2012 9:48:22am |
re: #707 47 turn it up to 11
Saudi Arabia is a stinking feudal monarchy. Our dependency on their natural resources forces us to just shut up and acquiesce to however they wish to run their country.
And if a "democracy" ever starts to gain traction there, we will be stuck between an Iraq and a much harder place.
Democracy is good when it favors us, otherwise not so much.
716 | Gus Wed, Sep 19, 2012 9:50:57am |
The Embassy Attacks: Hyperbole, Hypocrisy and Hujarat
There is perhaps no other area of the world that can dominate a string of news cycles like the Middle East. Getting the world's attention, it seems, is the easy part. Getting it for the right reasons? That's another story.
After the positive and hopeful coverage of last year's popular uprisings, there was cause to believe that perhaps the tide had shifted, that no longer would coverage of the region hinge on violence and anti-American discord. Syria, however, thoroughly undid this hope in the first instance, with this past week's events dismantling the latter optimism.
So here we are again. The brief epoch of peaceful Muslims of all stripes seeking freedom has degenerated back to archetypal scenes of angry Muslim mobs.
How did this happen?
Much about the embassy attacks and the film that spawned them remains unclear. From the outset, however, familiar themes were apparent...
719 | Kragar Wed, Sep 19, 2012 9:52:48am |
Reid: Romney May Be One Of The 47 Percent
Thousands of families making more than $1 million pay nothing in federal income taxes each year.
Is Mitt Romney among them?
We’ll never know, since he refuses to release tax returns from the years before he was running for president.
But from the one return we have seen, we know Mitt Romney pays a lower tax rate than middle class families thanks to Swiss bank accounts and Cayman Island tax shelters.
And we can only imagine what new secrets would be revealed if he showed the American people a dozen years of tax returns, like his father did.
720 | Dark_Falcon Wed, Sep 19, 2012 9:52:59am |
Folks, I'm expecting an important phone call so I need to log off for a short time. Back after I'm done.
721 | Shropshire_Slasher Wed, Sep 19, 2012 9:53:10am |
Old lizards never die, they just smell that way.
/
723 | kirkspencer Wed, Sep 19, 2012 9:53:30am |
re: #703 Sheila Brovlofski
Maybe he doesn't realize that a lot of people on food stamps also work full time. (Wal-Mart, Staples, Target, KFC, etc.)
This is the 2012 pay chart for the US military.
This is the requirements chart (specifically income) for food stamp eligibility.
Notice that an E5 who is married and has two children is eligible for food stamps if he's been in for less than four years - and at four years he exceeds the qualification by $65 per month. Add a third child and the sergeant has to be in for over eight years to be no longer eligible.
725 | engineer cat Wed, Sep 19, 2012 9:56:55am |
you can see that fucked news thinks mitt's in trouble over these remarks since their top headline today is full on magic balance fairy
'Redistribution' vs. 'Victims': Dueling Quotes Shake Up White House Race
riiiight...
726 | Kragar Wed, Sep 19, 2012 9:57:02am |
Surrogate Unable To Detail Romney’s Spending Cuts: ‘Every Item’ Has To Be Cut
Virginia governor and Mitt Romney surrogate Bob McDonnell (R) appeared on CNN’s Starting Point on Wednesday morning to tout the GOP presidential candidate’s “detailed plan of five items that he can get done that will get people back to work.” But pressed on the details of Romney’s proposal, McDonnell demurred, repeatedly refusing to explain which programs Romney would cut to meet his goal of slashing $500 billion per year within four years after he takes office.
“I think what you need is courage and honesty with the people and say, listen, everybody that’s getting — every item in the — in the budget has got to be cut some,” McDonnell declared, “including defense.”
Will the defense cuts come before or after the trillion dollars Romney promised to push into defense spending?
/
727 | Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Wed, Sep 19, 2012 9:57:23am |
re: #629 Mocking Jay
Media not as interested in portraying the Senate races as a neck-and-neck horse race a factor?
728 | Mocking Jay Wed, Sep 19, 2012 9:58:07am |
re: #720 Dark_Falcon
Folks, I'm expecting an important phone call so I need to log off for a short time. Back after I'm done.
Whoa. Dial-up flashback...
729 | Amory Blaine Wed, Sep 19, 2012 9:58:16am |
So if you're X*Mart, not only do you benefit by paying your employees so little they are on food stamps, you put taxpayers money in your pocket when the employees spend their food stamps in the store.
730 | HappyWarrior Wed, Sep 19, 2012 9:59:24am |
re: #726 Kragar
Surrogate Unable To Detail Romney’s Spending Cuts: ‘Every Item’ Has To Be Cut
Will the defense cuts come before or after the trillion dollars Romney promised to push into defense spending?
/
Wait, McDonnell's saying defense needs to be considered to be cut yet they're running ads here in Virginia for both Romney and Allen accusing Obama and Kaine of supporting defense cuts that will in their words ruin Virginia jobs. Anyhow, McDonnell's another bullshit artist. Runs as a moderate and then goes all so-con on choice once in office.
732 | Kragar Wed, Sep 19, 2012 9:59:45am |
re: #728 Mocking Jay
Whoa. Dial-up flashback...
That moment of sheer terror when the phone rings and you realize you're about to get kicked off your internet connection.
733 | Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance Wed, Sep 19, 2012 9:59:45am |
the #missing2min hashtag is cracking me up.
734 | dragonfire1981 Wed, Sep 19, 2012 9:59:50am |
re: #721 Tommy's cone of shame
Old lizards never die, they just smell that way.
/
Old man look at my life,
I'm a lot like you were.
Old man look at my life,
I'm a lot like you were.
Old man look at my life,
Twenty four
And there's so much more
Live alone in a paradise
That makes me think of two.
Love lost, such a cost,
Give me things
That don't get lost.
Like a coin that won't get tossed
Rolling home to you.
735 | Mocking Jay Wed, Sep 19, 2012 9:59:50am |
re: #727 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste
Media not as interested in portraying the Senate races as a neck-and-neck horse race a factor?
Well, that's Nate Silver. The talking heads will interpret the polls as they see fit.
736 | AK-47% Wed, Sep 19, 2012 10:00:21am |
re: #713 GunstarGreen
Yes. To avaricious people, it is inconceivable that anyone could be getting something for free to assist them in continuing to exist, but be willing to give that free thing up in exchange for a life that doesn't suck as much. They are also incapable of conceiving of a person that lives off of so little that foodstamps are a necessary thing to prevent starvation.
Not sure how much of it is malicious avarice and how much is just an antiquated mindset that self-respecting people do not accept handouts of any kind. That is still prevalent in the older generation of Americans.
738 | blueraven Wed, Sep 19, 2012 10:01:14am |
Jesse Jackson secures release of 2 American prisoners on death row in Gambia
[Link: www.suntimes.com...]
739 | makeitstop Wed, Sep 19, 2012 10:01:42am |
re: #719 Kragar
My (screen) name is makeitstop, and I approve this message.
I knew Reid would get back to the tax returns eventually.
740 | Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Wed, Sep 19, 2012 10:02:00am |
re: #685 Amory Blaine
Calling Americans parasites is fair game now thanks to the GOP. Income's not the right height.
Laying the ground work for getting voting rights for vultures.
741 | Mocking Jay Wed, Sep 19, 2012 10:03:32am |
iOS 6 is up and ready for download, for those of you into that Apple thing.
742 | lawhawk Wed, Sep 19, 2012 10:06:37am |
Chick fil-A says it's going to stop funding anti-gay groups.
Chick-fil-A has agreed to stop funding groups with anti-same-sex marriage stances, according to a statement released Wednesday by LGBT advocacy group The Civil Rights Agenda.
Chicago Alderman Joe Moreno, who had blocked the fast-food chain from opening stores in Chicago because of its anti-gay views, likewise announced he would now let Chick-fil-A open up new outlets after he received a letter this morning from the company stating that they would cease donating to the groups.
Chick-fil-A's lead spokesperson on the issue, Steve Robinson, was said to be “on vacation for the week” when his office was reached by phone, and requests for comment were directed to a general voicemail box. Civil Rights Agenda (CRA) and Moreno's office also did not respond to emailed requests.
Chick-fil-A directed news outlets to statements the company had previously posted on Facebook declaring the company did not have discriminatory policies. However, when pressed by reporters, the chain did not deny this morning's reports.
744 | AK-47% Wed, Sep 19, 2012 10:09:11am |
re: #742 lawhawk
Chick fil-A says it's going to stop funding anti-gay groups.
Don't think Chick-Fil-A has any subsidiaries in the Middle east...
745 | dragonath Wed, Sep 19, 2012 10:09:27am |
You know things are getting desperate, when you see stories like this from the Wall Street Journal:
From the newspaper that brought you the term Lucky Duckies™
746 | Lidane Wed, Sep 19, 2012 10:09:38am |
747 | Obdicut Wed, Sep 19, 2012 10:10:00am |
The thing about the Romney fundarising tape is how relaxed he seems. Most of the time when he's talking or doing a media thing or whatever, he's very stiff, he's very in control. This tape is the only time I've seen him where he seems comfortable, and it's while he's comfortable that he's saying his most extreme and stupid stuff.
That's a big part of it: the Romney campaign kept telling us there was a relaxed, human, jovial Romney, and now we've seen it, and he's relaxed and jovial while dismissing half of America as lazy assholes.
748 | makeitstop Wed, Sep 19, 2012 10:11:19am |
re: #747 Obdicut
The thing about the Romney fundarising tape is how relaxed he seems. Most of the time when he's talking or doing a media thing or whatever, he's very stiff, he's very in control. This tape is the only time I've seen him where he seems comfortable, and it's while he's comfortable that he's saying his most extreme and stupid stuff.
That's a big part of it: the Romney campaign kept telling us there was a relaxed, human, jovial Romney, and now we've seen it, and he's relaxed and jovial while dismissing half of America as lazy assholes.
He's completely relaxed in front of a crowd that paid $50K a head to listen to him.
749 | Mocking Jay Wed, Sep 19, 2012 10:12:05am |
No Evidence Trayvon Touched Gun thebea.st/PTIyt4 #cheatsheet
— The Daily Beast (@thedailybeast) September 19, 2012
750 | HappyWarrior Wed, Sep 19, 2012 10:12:37am |
re: #747 Obdicut
The thing about the Romney fundarising tape is how relaxed he seems. Most of the time when he's talking or doing a media thing or whatever, he's very stiff, he's very in control. This tape is the only time I've seen him where he seems comfortable, and it's while he's comfortable that he's saying his most extreme and stupid stuff.
That's a big part of it: the Romney campaign kept telling us there was a relaxed, human, jovial Romney, and now we've seen it, and he's relaxed and jovial while dismissing half of America as lazy assholes.
That's a real good point.
751 | Amory Blaine Wed, Sep 19, 2012 10:18:46am |
Um...@paulryanvp opens up VA event: "What a day, what a week...we're going to get this thing fixed by Nov. 6."— Lis Smith (@Lis_Smith) September 19, 2012
752 | blueraven Wed, Sep 19, 2012 10:20:11am |
re: #747 Obdicut
The thing about the Romney fundarising tape is how relaxed he seems. Most of the time when he's talking or doing a media thing or whatever, he's very stiff, he's very in control. This tape is the only time I've seen him where he seems comfortable, and it's while he's comfortable that he's saying his most extreme and stupid stuff.
That's a big part of it: the Romney campaign kept telling us there was a relaxed, human, jovial Romney, and now we've seen it, and he's relaxed and jovial while dismissing half of America as lazy assholes.
Yes, Romney seems very comfortable around white rich people, and this observation got one reporter fired from politico.
753 | wrenchwench Wed, Sep 19, 2012 10:21:19am |
re: #747 Obdicut
The thing about the Romney fundarising tape is how relaxed he seems. Most of the time when he's talking or doing a media thing or whatever, he's very stiff, he's very in control. This tape is the only time I've seen him where he seems comfortable, and it's while he's comfortable that he's saying his most extreme and stupid stuff.
That's a big part of it: the Romney campaign kept telling us there was a relaxed, human, jovial Romney, and now we've seen it, and he's relaxed and jovial while dismissing half of America as lazy assholes.
One quote that needs more play is, "We hang around with fellow Republicans..."
754 | Lidane Wed, Sep 19, 2012 10:21:27am |
Because all of these men believed in the same exact things:
Jerry Boykin Explains How Progressives Are Like Hitler, Stalin, Lenin and Marx bit.ly/Up9HFf— Right Wing Watch (@RightWingWatch) September 19, 2012
756 | lawhawk Wed, Sep 19, 2012 10:25:07am |
re: #751 Amory Blaine
What are they going to do? Upgrade Mitt's software to version 3.0? Reboot to an older software version since the current version is unstable and the beta test revealed serious inconsistencies? /
757 | Killgore Trout Wed, Sep 19, 2012 10:26:13am |
About that two state solution....
Palestinian leadership considers withdrawing from the Oslo accords
President Mahmoud Abbas is considering cancelling the 1993 Oslo accords, and related economic agreements, according to media reports. The issue was discussed at a meeting of the Palestinian leadership at the weekend, the reports said.
The issue has been raised against the backdrop of renewed warnings that a two state solution to the conflict may no longer be possible.
In a speech to be delivered on Thursday, Britain's former foreign secretary David Miliband will say: "For the first time in a long time there is no 'peace process'. Not even the pretence of one."
He will urge world leaders not to forget the cause of a Palestinian state, despite attention being focussed on "the convulsions in the Arab world". Rejecting the US presidential candidate Mitt Romney's comments about the impossibility of a two-state solution, Miliband will add: "Now is not the time to say that the problem is unsolvable."
758 | Mr. Crankypants Wed, Sep 19, 2012 10:26:17am |
re: #756 lawhawk
What are they going to do? Upgrade Mitt's software to version 3.0? Reboot to an older software version since the current version is unstable and the beta test revealed serious inconsistencies? /
Based on what they're doing so far?
Double Down on Derp
759 | Gus Wed, Sep 19, 2012 10:26:49am |
re: #757 Killgore Trout
About that two state solution....
Palestinian leadership considers withdrawing from the Oslo accords
Yeah. I was thinking about that. I bet a lot of Lizards like you really agree with Mitt Romney on foreign policy.
760 | AK-47% Wed, Sep 19, 2012 10:27:05am |
re: #754 Lidane
Because all of these men believed in the same exact things:
Jerry Boykin Explains How Progressives Are Like Hitler, Stalin, Lenin and Marx
"Progressive" used to have a very positive ring to it. Who is against progress?
But there has been a meme, predating Glenn Beck but made popular by him that tries to equate the "progressive" elements of Stalinism, Naziism, Maoism, etc. with the modern concept of "progressive".
761 | Gus Wed, Sep 19, 2012 10:27:46am |
Muslim derangement levels are getting a little high. Already had one comment deleted.
764 | Lidane Wed, Sep 19, 2012 10:28:17am |
The. Polls. Have. Stopped. Making. Any. Sense.— Nate Silver (@fivethirtyeight) September 19, 2012
765 | Dark_Falcon Wed, Sep 19, 2012 10:28:30am |
re: #728 Mocking Jay
Whoa. Dial-up flashback...
No, but I needed to give that call my full attention. This is a rather engrossing place, after all.
766 | Dark_Falcon Wed, Sep 19, 2012 10:29:49am |
re: #754 Lidane
Because all of these men believed in the same exact things:
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Whatever else can be said about him, Donald Rumsfeld was right when he bid Jerry Boykin "Adieu".
767 | blueraven Wed, Sep 19, 2012 10:30:07am |
re: #757 Killgore Trout
About that two state solution....
Palestinian leadership considers withdrawing from the Oslo accords
President Mahmoud Abbas is considering cancelling the 1993 Oslo accords, and related economic agreements, according to media reports.
what media reports?
768 | Gus Wed, Sep 19, 2012 10:30:50am |
Manipulate Iraq to get at Iran.
Create Saddam Hussein.
Allow Iraq to invade Kuwait.
Drive Iraqis out of Kuwait.
Invade Iraq.
Invade Afghanistan.
Support Bahrain
Support Saudi Arabia.
NYPD surveillance of Muslims.
Threaten to "bomb Iran daily.
All involving Muslims and that's just the short list.
Why are they mad at us?
769 | Mr. Crankypants Wed, Sep 19, 2012 10:31:12am |
re: #767 blueraven
President Mahmoud Abbas is considering cancelling the 1993 Oslo accords, and related economic agreements, according to media reports.
what media reports?
The ones that some people say are out there.
What people? Jerry in Accounting.
770 | Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Wed, Sep 19, 2012 10:31:37am |
Any word on how Mitt's appearance on Univision's forum went? I presume that he presented himself as Latino-friendly. But does that really resonate well when he is the candidate of a party that for all intents and purposes is anything but that currently?
771 | abolitionist Wed, Sep 19, 2012 10:31:49am |
re: #743 Gus
Separation of church and state...
I'll see your wet hole in the desert, and raise you a cemetery: Image: arlington.jpg
Lost Black City Buried Beneath Graves Of Arlington Cemetery
772 | Gus Wed, Sep 19, 2012 10:33:15am |
re: #771 abolitionist
I'll see your wet hole in the desert, and raise you a cemetery: Image: arlington.jpg
Lost Black City Buried Beneath Graves Of Arlington Cemetery
U.S. Rifle Scopes In Iraq And Afghanistan Feature Bible Verse Citations
773 | Lidane Wed, Sep 19, 2012 10:33:36am |
The GOP freakout, in headlines, with links, and growing maddowblog.msnbc.com/_news/2012/09/...— Maddow Blog (@MaddowBlog) September 19, 2012
774 | wrenchwench Wed, Sep 19, 2012 10:34:01am |
re: #767 blueraven
President Mahmoud Abbas is considering cancelling the 1993 Oslo accords, and related economic agreements, according to media reports.
what media reports?
Gotta keep up with the dead thread troll commentary.
775 | Gus Wed, Sep 19, 2012 10:34:53am |
re: #771 abolitionist
I'll see your wet hole in the desert, and raise you a cemetery: Image: arlington.jpg
Lost Black City Buried Beneath Graves Of Arlington Cemetery
They see us as a Christian nation just as much as we see them as Muslim nations. So when they think of the Iraq War, one in which 100,000 Iraqis were killed, they see that as an act of a Christian nation. I don't make the rules.
776 | Killgore Trout Wed, Sep 19, 2012 10:35:03am |
re: #767 blueraven
President Mahmoud Abbas is considering cancelling the 1993 Oslo accords, and related economic agreements, according to media reports.
what media reports?
Ones like these
Palestinians may cancel Oslo Accords with Israel, says top negotiator
Saeb Erekat says Israel has sabotaged all attempts to revive the peace process, forcing the Palestinian Authority to consider withdrawing from the 1993 agreements.
There are plenty more if you google. It's nothing new. The PA has been floating the idea over the past year or so.
777 | Amory Blaine Wed, Sep 19, 2012 10:35:05am |
Ryan Criticizes Romney Comments At Private Fundraiser: ‘Obviously Inarticulate’
In an interview this evening with NBC Reno, Vice Presidential nominee Paul Ryan was critical of comments Romney made at a private fundraiser in May, dismissing 47% of American as people who can will never “take personal resonsibility and care for their lives.”
Ryan said Romney’s remarks were “obviously inarticulate.” Asked if he thought Mitt Romney regreted his comments, Ryan responded “I think he would have said it differently, that’s for sure.”
778 | Killgore Trout Wed, Sep 19, 2012 10:37:47am |
Abbas moots cancelling Oslo Accords: PLO official
President Mahmud Abbas proposed cancelling the Oslo Accords with Israel at a weekend meeting of the Palestinian leadership, a senior member of the Palestine Liberation Organisation (PLO) told AFP on Tuesday.
PLO Executive Committee member Wassel Abu Yusef said Abbas raised the idea of "cancelling the Oslo agreement as well as the associated economic and security arrangements," at the meeting on Saturday and Sunday.
Abu Yusef said that "members of the Palestinian leadership had mixed opinions on the issue, and it was decided to postpone any decision until their next meeting," due to be held after Abbas's return from the UN General Assembly later this month.
779 | Amory Blaine Wed, Sep 19, 2012 10:38:06am |
re: #756 lawhawk
What are they going to do? Upgrade Mitt's software to version 3.0? Reboot to an older software version since the current version is unstable and the beta test revealed serious inconsistencies? /
RomneyBot beta 0.9 Cuddly Edition
780 | William Barnett-Lewis Wed, Sep 19, 2012 10:38:07am |
Heh. So are congress critters eligible to file for unemployment when they get the boot from their constituents?
781 | Jolo5309 Wed, Sep 19, 2012 10:38:12am |
re: #190 Mich-again
Heck I would vote for that guy before Romney.
Well you can when Canada takes over what is left of the US...
782 | Lidane Wed, Sep 19, 2012 10:38:30am |
Dean Heller just became the latest Repub in a tight race to distance himself from Romney. Just told me he has "very different world view"— Dana Bash (@DanaBashCNN) September 19, 2012
heller said his father was an automechanic, and he thinks "one of the responsiblities of the federal government is a safety net"— Dana Bash (@DanaBashCNN) September 19, 2012
783 | Gus Wed, Sep 19, 2012 10:38:55am |
That's funny. I could have sworn that right wingers hate the Oslo Accords.
785 | abolitionist Wed, Sep 19, 2012 10:39:56am |
re: #772 Gus
U.S. Rifle Scopes In Iraq And Afghanistan Feature Bible Verse Citations
I acknowledge that's deplorable. The military chaplains' support for some servicepersons' customs is something I consider as support for those sevicepersons; establishment of any particular religion, not so much.
786 | Lidane Wed, Sep 19, 2012 10:40:11am |
re: #783 Gus
That's funny. I could have sworn that right wingers hate the Oslo Accords.
That was before Mitt Romney fucked his campaign over.
787 | Mr. Crankypants Wed, Sep 19, 2012 10:40:43am |
re: #780 William Barnett-Lewis
Heh. So are congress critters eligible to file for unemployment when they get the boot from their constituents?
People who need to be looking for work IMHO
Bachmann
Gohmert
West
Cantor
King (Steve or Peter)
790 | Gus Wed, Sep 19, 2012 10:42:42am |
re: #785 abolitionist
I acknowledge that's deplorable. The military chaplains' support for some servicepersons' customs is something I consider as support for those sevicepersons; establishment of any particular religion, not so much.
That's because Christianity is entrenched in our culture. We just don't see it as easily because we're used to it. It's there. It's there every time every since politician ends his or her speech with "God bless America."
792 | Lidane Wed, Sep 19, 2012 10:43:09am |
"The welfare of the weakest and the welfare of the most powerful are inseparably bound together," - Calvin Coolidge. ow.ly/dPFIA— AmericanConservative (@amconmag) September 19, 2012
794 | abolitionist Wed, Sep 19, 2012 10:45:26am |
re: #790 Gus
That's because Christianity is entrenched in our culture. We just don't see it as easily because we're used to it. It's there. It's there every time every since politician ends his or her speech with "God bless America."
Yeah, I cringe a little at that too.
795 | HappyWarrior Wed, Sep 19, 2012 10:50:44am |
re: #792 Lidane
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Heh really when you're being made look like a snobbish dick by Calvin Coolidge's words, you're doing something wrong.
796 | Stormageddon, Dark Lord of All Wed, Sep 19, 2012 11:02:15am |
re: #656 makeitstop
HA! Maybe growing numbers of Republicans are putting on the life jackets and about to take the Glibertarian plunge, so to speak?
Boo Hiss! as a long time libertarian (hell, i identified as libertarian in jr high), I have to say the term Glibertarian really irks me. First, no political system is going to be perfect in a pure form. I wouldn't want a purely Democrat, Republican, Libertarian, or Statist government. The problem isn't with Libertarian per se, it's more the purists of any party that cause the biggest problem.
I'm all for people who want smaller government as a general philosophy, but I also don't want people to take it to the extreme and think Libertarianism is all about no government. (though there is a chunk of Libertarians who want that very thing, I call them anarchists though)
Government isn't dangerous by itself, a Corporation isn't dangerous by itself, Religion isn't dangerous by itself. Those entities become dangerous when one co-opts or takes control of the other. A Corporation controlling Government and making laws to benefit itself is dangerous. A religion using the government to make laws to further the cause is dangerous.
797 | MittDoesNotCompute Wed, Sep 19, 2012 11:07:46am |
re: #663 HappyWarrior
Wow, parasites. Really, that's a really fucked up way of looking at your fellow Americans, Matalin.
That's because Matalin and her fellow RWNJs don't see those of us who aren't like them as Real 'Murricans, so we can be dismissed and dehumanized.
798 | Obdicut Wed, Sep 19, 2012 11:09:54am |
re: #796 Stormageddon, Dark Lord of All
I think Glibertarian is a useful phrase, if used carefully. I use it to mean "A libertarian who hasn't actually tangled with any of the problematic bits that libertarian ideology leads to, but hand-waves aside all problems with fantasies of perfect information and a perfectly rational public."
799 | Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance Wed, Sep 19, 2012 11:58:05am |
re: #747 Obdicut
I thought the same thing.
800 | Patricia Kayden Wed, Sep 19, 2012 2:38:04pm |
"Mitt Doesn't Disdain the Poor"
What a heartwarming title. Makes me feel fuzzy.
It's amazing how out of touch his campaign has become. All that's left is the debates.
801 | freekurdistan Wed, Sep 19, 2012 8:39:37pm |
she is a total liar. the comments are not "out of context". the entire video was made available by mother jones.
romney does not talk about helping "the 47%" out of poverty or mention anything about helping "women". it's pathetic pandering on ann's part. does she think people won't watch the video?
i will admit that the video may be "misinterpreted" since it's difficult to interpret just what this idiot was trying to say. my best interpretation is: the 47% of americans who pay zero or net-neutral income tax are completely dependent on government and will never take personal responsibility and care for their lives and therefore will vote for the president no matter what.