Jon Stewart Scales Bullshit Mountain to Examine the Latest Wingnut Benghazi Fail

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Jon Stewart takes another grueling hike up Bullshit Mountain, for a closer look at the now utterly ridiculous right wing Benghazi conspiracy theories.

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1 Eclectic Cyborg  Thu, May 9, 2013 10:28:10am

The Big Benghazi Theory!! Ha, ha, I love it!

2 erik_t  Thu, May 9, 2013 10:36:16am

Needs more whiteboard. Any theory bugeared wild nonsense becomes instantly sensible and palatable if diagrammed on a whiteboard.

3 Bulworth  Thu, May 9, 2013 10:37:12am

Needz moar Beck Tearssss

4 FemNaziBitch  Thu, May 9, 2013 10:38:17am

Mother forced to pay $1,300 a month spousal support to ex-husband convicted of raping her daughter

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5 HappyWarrior  Thu, May 9, 2013 10:39:51am

re: #4 FemNaziBitch

Mother forced to pay $1,300 a month spousal support to ex-husband convicted of raping her daughter

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There’s no justice in that. That’s a travesty.

6 Vicious Babushka  Thu, May 9, 2013 10:40:47am

DERP

7 Charles Johnson  Thu, May 9, 2013 10:40:50am
8 Bulworth  Thu, May 9, 2013 10:41:06am

Daily message to Republicans:

We librools are really, really afraid scared of Ted Cruz.

Let’s make this go VIRAL!!

9 Awea  Thu, May 9, 2013 10:43:21am

Going to be a long 3 months with Stewart off for the summer. Granted most of the writers will still be there, just not sure if john Oliver can deliver it as well as Stewart.

10 Vicious Babushka  Thu, May 9, 2013 10:49:08am

SLACKERS!

11 Charles Johnson  Thu, May 9, 2013 10:50:16am

Some Republicans are just going to get even crazier, of course.

12 Vicious Babushka  Thu, May 9, 2013 10:51:07am

re: #11 Charles Johnson

Some Republicans are just going to get even crazier, of course.

What they call “The Truth” is what they want to hear, not what actually happened.

13 Eclectic Cyborg  Thu, May 9, 2013 10:51:56am

re: #6 Vicious Babushka

DERP

I am pretty sure that’s a mic he’s holding in his Av, but I always think it’s a cigar for some reason. I guess he just strikes me as a smug douchebag.

14 Charles Johnson  Thu, May 9, 2013 10:53:24am

re: #6 Vicious Babushka

Hoft’s commenters are the worst people on the Internet.

Maybe our Special Forces should be trained in the art of beheading.

Sure. That sounds like a great idea.

15 Backwoods_Sleuth  Thu, May 9, 2013 10:55:03am

re: #10 Vicious Babushka

“brown peeples…”

16 ProTARDISLiberal  Thu, May 9, 2013 10:57:37am

re: #12 Vicious Babushka

VB, I am having a bit of a personal issue here.

Can I talk to you by email/IM please?

17 Lidane  Thu, May 9, 2013 11:01:01am

re: #14 Charles Johnson

Because really, what could go wrong if images ever surfaced of the US military beheading people?

Bugfuck crazy morons.

18 Vicious Babushka  Thu, May 9, 2013 11:01:02am

re: #16 ProBosniaLiberal

VB, I am having a bit of a personal issue here.

Can I talk to you by email/IM please?

If you’re having a personal issue you need to have face time with someone.

19 Sol Berdinowitz  Thu, May 9, 2013 11:01:34am

I cannot disagree with many of the assertions made against Obama…but I can only add that that is how politicians off all stripes react and have always reacted to foreign policy crises: by putting their own political interests above America’s interests

20 Bulworth  Thu, May 9, 2013 11:03:19am

re: #12 Vicious Babushka

Of course, they already “know” what the Truth is, they just want it repeated and distorted to even greater heights to educate the rest of us.

21 Bulworth  Thu, May 9, 2013 11:04:16am

re: #11 Charles Johnson

I guess yesterday didn’t get it done for them.

22 lawhawk  Thu, May 9, 2013 11:04:48am

Congress, and the House GOP in particular are real good at grandstanding and holding hearings. They’re far less effective in actual governance.

It’s far easier to attempt to craft some crazy conspiracy open-ended theory that Obama did something wrong before/during/after Benghazi, than to deal with the underlying issues that undermined the safety of FSOs around the world - the GOP cutting funding to the State Department security budget.

It is far easier to bray to the GOP right wingers without a care for logic or reasoning like Rep. Jim Bridenstine did when you ignore that there have been more hearings on Benghazi than all of the hearings held following the multiple attacks against diplomatic facilities worldwide during President Bush’s term in office, despite there being more attacks, and more casualties from 2000 to 2008.

The hearings held yesterday were about grandstanding by Rep. Issa and other GOPers - not about getting at the facts. If it were about the facts, we’d be standing here talking about how to make sure that the diplomatic facilities are secured, how the Defense Department is adjusting its policies and procedures to respond quicker, and how State will fix its own institutional problems with rotating staffing at its missions in vulnerable areas (all of which the State Department covered in its own internal report - made publicly available no less).

23 FemNaziBitch  Thu, May 9, 2013 11:06:00am

What % of American’s give a shit about Benghazi?

24 Targetpractice  Thu, May 9, 2013 11:07:02am

We’ve had more hearings about Benghazi and perceived failure to anticipate it, prevent it, and address its aftermath than we did 9/11.

25 Sol Berdinowitz  Thu, May 9, 2013 11:07:08am

re: #8 Bulworth

Daily message to Republicans:

We librools are really, really afraid scared of Ted Cruz.

Let’s make this go VIRAL!!

Liberal nightmare: Ted Cruz vs Hillary at the presidential debates, and Ted talks about nothing but Benghazi Benghazi Benghazi Benghazi Benghazi Benghazi Benghazi Benghazi Benghazi Benghazi Benghazi Benghazi for three hours, with only occasinal breaks to remind us that Chuck Hagel is a terrorist sympathizer…

26 lawhawk  Thu, May 9, 2013 11:08:08am

re: #11 Charles Johnson

I wonder if he bothered to even read the State Department ARB report (either version).

27 Apeman  Thu, May 9, 2013 11:09:24am

re: #11 Charles Johnson

Once, just frickin’ once, I’d like to see my state do something not derpworthy.

28 Bubblehead II  Thu, May 9, 2013 11:09:31am

re: #10 Vicious Babushka

Related

Breast cancer victim asks job for schedule flexibility, gets fired

SEATTLE — Christina Dewey insists what happened to her should never happen to anyone. When she got sick from chemotherapy, she asked her boss for some flexibility in her work schedule.

A day later, she was fired.

29 iossarian  Thu, May 9, 2013 11:09:58am

re: #22 lawhawk

The main failing of the contemporary GOP is that they don’t accept that government actually works.

The whole point of a system of oversight is that you investigate problems, suggest corrections and solutions, and provide a guiding hand, but fundamentally you accept that the people working for the organization in question are essentially trying to do the right thing.

If you don’t accept this, then you have to run things yourself. But that’s not how the US system of government is set up. So the GOP is actually trying to govern in a way that is fundamentally at odds with the way in which the system is meant to work.

30 FemNaziBitch  Thu, May 9, 2013 11:10:04am

WOW

Thanks Elena: Egyptian TV Host Riham Said Removes Veil during Interview, Clashes with Guest Cleric Yousuf Badri

Youtube Video

on my fb

31 ProTARDISLiberal  Thu, May 9, 2013 11:10:59am

Oh dear:

32 Sol Berdinowitz  Thu, May 9, 2013 11:12:56am

re: #29 iossarian

The main failing of the contemporary GOP is that they don’t accept that government actually works.

The whole point of a system of oversight is that you investigate problems, suggest corrections and solutions, and provide a guiding hand, but fundamentally you accept that the people working for the organization in question are essentially trying to do the right thing.

If you don’t accept this, then you have to run things yourself. But that’s not how the US system of government is set up. So the GOP is actually trying to govern in a way that is fundamentally at odds with the way in which the system is meant to work.

Government should not exist at all. Where and when it does, it should operate flawlessly and more efficiently than the private sector ever has.

I recall Rush Limbauch talking about the budget surplus under Clinton, and saying that it was immoral for the government to be taking more money from us than it needed to operate…

33 Vicious Babushka  Thu, May 9, 2013 11:13:25am

So many JRRBZ in Texas some people can haz two or three!

34 Backwoods_Sleuth  Thu, May 9, 2013 11:14:35am

re: #33 Vicious Babushka

So many JRRBZ in Texas some people can haz two or three!

gruel for everyone!

35 Vicious Babushka  Thu, May 9, 2013 11:14:45am

DERP. They would have covered HEROD all day long.

36 lawhawk  Thu, May 9, 2013 11:15:19am

re: #32 Sol Berdinowitz

One of my colleagues is of the opinion that the TP/GOP are actually anarchists intent upon breaking government - and doing all that they can to show that the government cannot do anything it is supposed to do.

He’s got a point.

The TP/GOP isn’t about governance. It’s about obstructionism and starving government operations of necessary funding on critical items (and then pointing that government isn’t working/doesn’t work right as a justification to cut even further).

37 Bulworth  Thu, May 9, 2013 11:16:32am

re: #23 FemNaziBitch

I’d guess 27%, 29%, something in that range. Roughly the same percentage as think PBO was born in Kenya and who think that even now conservative Patriots are being rounded up for FEMA trailer camps.

38 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, May 9, 2013 11:16:42am
39 Bert's House of Beef and Obdicuts  Thu, May 9, 2013 11:17:33am

Argh. My back went out. I’m getting old. And I’ve got so much work I need to sit up for but right now I need to be as horizontal. This blows. Thanks Obama.

40 ProTARDISLiberal  Thu, May 9, 2013 11:17:40am

Hey, what powers do the President have over the Flag Officers? Can he dismiss them?

41 Targetpractice  Thu, May 9, 2013 11:17:53am

re: #36 lawhawk

One of my colleagues is of the opinion that the TP/GOP are actually anarchists intent upon breaking government - and doing all that they can to show that the government cannot do anything it is supposed to do.

He’s got a point.

The TP/GOP isn’t about governance. It’s about obstructionism and starving government operations of necessary funding on critical items (and then pointing that government isn’t working/doesn’t work right as a justification to cut even further).

“The Democrats are the party that says government will make you smarter, taller, richer, and remove the crabgrass on your lawn. The Republicans are the party that says government doesn’t work and then they get elected and prove it.”

42 Vicious Babushka  Thu, May 9, 2013 11:18:06am

re: #37 Bulworth

I’d guess 27%, 29%, something in that range. Roughly the same percentage as think PBO was born in Kenya and who think that even now conservative Patriots are being rounded up for FEMA trailer camps.

And who need THERR GUNZ to overthrow the TYRANNY!!11!!

43 Bulworth  Thu, May 9, 2013 11:18:18am

re: #35 Vicious Babushka

This doesn’t even make any sense. Nonetheless, these hypotheticals concerning events almost 2,000 years past are quite enlightening. Procede TGDN….

44 Decatur Deb  Thu, May 9, 2013 11:18:51am

re: #35 Vicious Babushka

DERP. They would have covered HEROD all day long.

Salome would have had all the ratings. “Dancing with the Satraps”

45 FemNaziBitch  Thu, May 9, 2013 11:19:23am

re: #39 Bert’s House of Beef and Obdicuts

Argh. My back went out. I’m getting old. And I’ve got so much work I need to sit up for but right now I need to be as horizontal. This blows. Thanks Obama.

((((((Obdi))))))

46 Charles Johnson  Thu, May 9, 2013 11:19:48am

re: #39 Bert’s House of Beef and Obdicuts

Argh. My back went out. I’m getting old. And I’ve got so much work I need to sit up for but right now I need to be as horizontal. This blows. Thanks Obama.

INPEACH!!

47 FemNaziBitch  Thu, May 9, 2013 11:21:02am

Why Benghazi Really Matters

YMMV

48 ProTARDISLiberal  Thu, May 9, 2013 11:21:56am

re: #47 FemNaziBitch

And that is why I don’t listen to them.

49 lawhawk  Thu, May 9, 2013 11:22:04am

re: #39 Bert’s House of Beef and Obdicuts

Argh. My back went out. I’m getting old. And I’ve got so much work I need to sit up for but right now I need to be as horizontal. This blows. Thanks Obama.

Taker!////

Feel better dude.

Heating pad? IcyHot/Salonpas? Found either/both have helped. NSAIDs? /not a doctor, but I stayed at a Holiday Inn once

50 FemNaziBitch  Thu, May 9, 2013 11:23:22am

I Have to be productive for a while. Although, I feel like I’ve done a full day’s work just logging on to twitter.

Have a good one all!

51 Vicious Babushka  Thu, May 9, 2013 11:23:40am

re: #43 Bulworth

This doesn’t even make any sense. Nonetheless, these hypotheticals concerning events almost 2,000 years past are quite enlightening. Procede TGDN….

There was no such thing as informational media in those days. Elites like Herod would hire biographers to record their praises for posterity, and scribes would copy scripture which was already centuries old. There are no contemporary accounts of Jesus that we know of, even the brief mention found in Josephus is thought to have been inserted by medieval transcribers. Josephus was a hired biographer of the Herodians.

52 klys  Thu, May 9, 2013 11:23:58am

re: #47 FemNaziBitch

Why Benghazi Really Matters

YMMV

So wait: Republicans think government is horrible and should be small enough to strangle but are then getting pissy that we aren’t running other countries’ governments for them? Is that kind of the gist of it?

53 klys  Thu, May 9, 2013 11:25:31am

re: #51 Vicious Babushka

There was no such thing as informational media in those days. Elites like Herod would hire biographers to record their praises for posterity, and scribes would copy scripture which was already centuries old. There are no contemporary accounts of Jesus that we know of, even the brief mention found in Josephus is thought to have been inserted by medieval transcribers. Josephus was a hired biographer of the Herodians.

It’s a coverup!!!!! BENGHAZI!!!!1

54 HappyWarrior  Thu, May 9, 2013 11:25:45am

re: #52 klys

So wait: Republicans think government is horrible and should be small enough to strangle but are then getting pissy that we aren’t running other countries’ governments for them? Is that kind of the gist of it?

Brought to you by the same mindset that wants to drown government in the bath tub but forces party chairmen to resign if they think gays marrying is ok. Never ever underestimate the cognitive dissidence that is the essence of being a modern conservative Republican.

55 Vicious Babushka  Thu, May 9, 2013 11:25:55am

Anyone who tweets this “joke” is fucking demented. (Not embedding, click at your own risk)

56 Targetpractice  Thu, May 9, 2013 11:26:27am

re: #52 klys

So wait: Republicans think government is horrible and should be small enough to strangle but are then getting pissy that we aren’t running other countries’ governments for them? Is that kind of the gist of it?

Pretty much. Apparently Obama’s “failing” is that we’re not spending enough money. Odd to hear that from wingnuts, but there it is.

57 HappyWarrior  Thu, May 9, 2013 11:27:19am

re: #56 Targetpractice

Pretty much. Apparently Obama’s “failing” is that we’re not spending enough money. Odd to hear that from wingnuts, but there it is.

It’s even odder since they the Republican House of Representatives controls that and they voted down a bill that would have given more money for security on embassies and consulates.

58 klys  Thu, May 9, 2013 11:28:19am

re: #54 HappyWarrior

Brought to you by the same mindset that wants to drown government in the bath tub but forces party chairmen to resign if they think gays marrying is ok. Never ever underestimate the cognitive dissidence that is the essence of being a modern conservative Republican.

I’ve had a variety of conversations with friends over the past few weeks about how important internal consistency is to me in my beliefs, and my husband mentioned a book on the psychology of values in political aspects. I think it found that liberals valued consistency higher than conservatives, which were more focused on tribalism.

I need to find this book, clearly.

Also, apparently 16 hours of sleep has helped and hopefully this chicken noodle soup will stay down. First food in 36 hours…

59 darthstar  Thu, May 9, 2013 11:28:24am

Some CDs belong together.

Image: 270662_10151606973343024_1184483079_n.jpg

60 Lidane  Thu, May 9, 2013 11:28:31am

Bigots are weird:

61 klys  Thu, May 9, 2013 11:30:12am

re: #59 darthstar

Some CDs belong together.

Image: 270662_10151606973343024_1184483079_n.jpg

Heh.

On a tangentially related note: this is perhaps one of the best descriptors of depression I have read.

62 Lidane  Thu, May 9, 2013 11:30:21am

Who needs a Supremacy Clause?

63 Targetpractice  Thu, May 9, 2013 11:30:32am

re: #60 Lidane

Bigots are weird:

Neither can elderly couples or infertile couples. Are their marriages invalid as well?

64 klys  Thu, May 9, 2013 11:31:28am

re: #63 Targetpractice

Neither can elderly couples or infertile couples. Are their marriages invalid as well?

Or those of us who have taken steps not to produce offspring.

65 HappyWarrior  Thu, May 9, 2013 11:31:56am

re: #60 Lidane

Bigots are weird:

Yeah because elderly couples shouldn’t be able to get married and neither should infertile people. Real great logic there. Bigoted maroon.

66 Lidane  Thu, May 9, 2013 11:33:16am

This is one of the funniest, inadvertantly NSFW things I’ve ever seen:

bananabunker.com

67 Bubblehead II  Thu, May 9, 2013 11:33:31am

re: #55 Vicious Babushka

re: #55 Vicious Babushka

Looks like twitter (or someone else) took it down.

Sorry, that page doesn’t exist!
Thanks for noticing—we’re going to fix it up and have things back to normal soon.

68 HappyWarrior  Thu, May 9, 2013 11:33:31am

re: #58 klys

I’ve had a variety of conversations with friends over the past few weeks about how important internal consistency is to me in my beliefs, and my husband mentioned a book on the psychology of values in political aspects. I think it found that liberals valued consistency higher than conservatives, which were more focused on tribalism.

I need to find this book, clearly.

Also, apparently 16 hours of sleep has helped and hopefully this chicken noodle soup will stay down. First food in 36 hours…

I am not sure. I just think it’s funny that the people who bellyache the most about “big government” are the same people who think any defense cuts will cripple the military, want more money on prisons, and are okay with punishing marijuana users because remember the drug war escalated under Reagan. Oh and want policies that use the government to coddle big business.

69 FemNaziBitch  Thu, May 9, 2013 11:33:43am

Had to sign back on.

Just got this in my fb.

I remember these kids when they were young. They are my friend’s niece and nephew. I haven’t seen them in a long time. Tanya suffered from Bi-Polar disorder and her family was very supportive, yet she couldn’t take it. The family has been working to help others:

Youtube Video

Please share.

70 Vicious Babushka  Thu, May 9, 2013 11:35:34am

re: #67 Bubblehead II

re: #55 Vicious Babushka

Looks like twitter (or someone else) took it down.

Sorry, that page doesn’t exist!
Thanks for noticing—we’re going to fix it up and have things back to normal soon.

I’m glad they did that.

71 klys  Thu, May 9, 2013 11:35:58am

re: #68 HappyWarrior

I am not sure. I just think it’s funny that the people who bellyache the most about “big government” are the same people who think any defense cuts will cripple the military, want more money on prisons, and are okay with punishing marijuana users because remember the drug war escalated under Reagan.

Part of what makes that funny, though, is the fact that it’s not consistent and they seem unable to reconcile that. It doesn’t seem to matter to them that it’s not.

Whereas it is funny to us because we can see the inconsistency.

I can at least respect the (real) libertarians for being consistent, even if I think their view of society and the role government is supposed to play is flawed. Conservatives are just …nuts.

72 erik_t  Thu, May 9, 2013 11:37:56am

re: #60 Lidane

Bigots are weird:

@DocMomMN Same-sex couples cannot mate; therefore their relationship cannot be called a “marriage” or a “union.” #mnleg #mnmarriage

Just fucking watch.

Kisses! :)

73 Lidane  Thu, May 9, 2013 11:38:24am

POTUS is on mah TV speaking to a local high school.

74 HappyWarrior  Thu, May 9, 2013 11:38:34am

re: #71 klys

Part of what makes that funny, though, is the fact that it’s not consistent and they seem unable to reconcile that. It doesn’t seem to matter to them that it’s not.

Whereas it is funny to us because we can see the inconsistency.

I can at least respect the (real) libertarians for being consistent, even if I think their view of society and the role government is supposed to play is flawed. Conservatives are just …nuts.

Gotcha. Totally agree. That’s true about the libertarians. The funny thing about libertarians for me is they make me feel like a total pragmatist on the issues. Most libertarians I’ve known seem idealistic to a fault but I do respect their consistency on government. My only problem with many of them is they’ve let Ron Paul who should not be called a libertarian become the face of libertarianism.

75 FemNaziBitch  Thu, May 9, 2013 11:38:55am

It’s being tweeted by Rainn Wilson

76 lawhawk  Thu, May 9, 2013 11:42:39am

Priorities.

If you think your state’s highest paid public employee is the head of a public agency, or the state’s governor, you’d be wrong.

In all likelihood, the highest paid public employee is a coach at one of the state’s public universities.

77 HappyWarrior  Thu, May 9, 2013 11:44:38am

re: #76 lawhawk

Priorities.

If you think your state’s highest paid public employee is the head of a public agency, or the state’s governor, you’d be wrong.

In all likelihood, the highest paid public employee is a coach at one of the state’s public universities.

This is the same stuff that leads to people like Snooki and The Situation making more money than teachers, doctors, etc. It’s why while I like a lot of Capitalism on paper haev problems with its modern implementation.

78 Backwoods_Sleuth  Thu, May 9, 2013 11:45:00am

re: #65 HappyWarrior

Yeah because elderly couples shouldn’t be able to get married and neither should infertile people. Real great logic there. Bigoted maroon.

Sex isn’t supposed to be fun! Procreation ONLY!!11!!

79 Vicious Babushka  Thu, May 9, 2013 11:45:00am

DERP

80 Vicious Babushka  Thu, May 9, 2013 11:45:54am

Bryan’s idea of “Religious Liberty” is to deny it to gays and Muslims.

81 FemNaziBitch  Thu, May 9, 2013 11:46:08am

re: #78 Backwoods_Sleuth

Unless you are a rich, land-owning white man.

82 Lidane  Thu, May 9, 2013 11:46:51am

re: #79 Vicious Babushka

Funny. They’ve existed side by side for a long time.

83 Bulworth  Thu, May 9, 2013 11:47:46am
Atrios: I’d love to be able to explain Benghazi to you all, but other than it has something to do with an Arkansas land deal gone bad I really have no idea.
84 iossarian  Thu, May 9, 2013 11:48:06am

re: #76 lawhawk

Ha. Do not get me started on the hypocrisy of a system under which (mostly low-income black) students can’t get paid for playing ball, but which shovels truckloads of cash to (mostly wealthy white) coaches, athletic directors and sports executives.

85 Lidane  Thu, May 9, 2013 11:48:20am

Ooh. POTUS just mentioned using Executive Orders on jobs.

Cue the ‘splodey heads.

86 Targetpractice  Thu, May 9, 2013 11:48:36am

re: #79 Vicious Babushka

DERP

Bryan, religious liberty does not mean you can be an asshole and bigot in public and not be called upon it or treated like a pariah.

87 HappyWarrior  Thu, May 9, 2013 11:48:41am

re: #82 Lidane

Funny. They’ve existed side by side for a long time.

and will continue to do so. And as VB said, his idea of religious liberty is denying religious liberty to others whether that person be Gay, Muslim, or just about anyone who doesn’t fit his idea of a Christian. Funny how his screeds are always about denying people rights rather than the charity and love of Christianity. He’s no Christian. He’s a hateful asshole.

88 Bulworth  Thu, May 9, 2013 11:49:08am

re: #79 Vicious Babushka

Hey, Bryan, any idea what that Saudi National is up to these days?

89 Vicious Babushka  Thu, May 9, 2013 11:49:08am

HOW MANY PEOPLE DO YOU KNOW WHO HAVE A JOB THAT WAS CREATED BY OBAMA!!111


*raises hand*

90 Backwoods_Sleuth  Thu, May 9, 2013 11:49:34am

re: #81 FemNaziBitch

Unless you are a rich, land-owning white man.

or Rushbo with a pocket full of Viagra headed to the Dominican Republic…

91 HappyWarrior  Thu, May 9, 2013 11:49:52am

re: #86 Targetpractice

Bryan, religious liberty does not mean you can be an asshole and bigot in public and not be called upon it or treated like a pariah.

He seems to think religious liberty means we’re supposed to just accept and do whatever conservative Christians like him want to do. No, you fascist fuck, it doesn’t work that way and it has never worked that way in this country. He needs to set up his own theocracy or build a time machine and find one in the past because he’s not going to find it here.

92 Backwoods_Sleuth  Thu, May 9, 2013 11:50:03am

re: #82 Lidane

Funny. They’ve existed side by side for a long time.

and IN CHURCH!

93 HappyWarrior  Thu, May 9, 2013 11:51:18am

I’ve always contended that with the religions that do bless gay marriages that if you ban gay marriage, you’re violating religious freedom. Of course, to Bryan these pro gay churches aren’t real Christians because only real Christians subscribe to his Ayn Rand economic worldview and his authoritarian social worldview.

94 Bulworth  Thu, May 9, 2013 11:55:44am

re: #79 Vicious Babushka

DERP

Really? In that case, since you’re such a miserable as$hole, Bryan, your group loses. We like teh gays more.

/

95 wrenchwench  Thu, May 9, 2013 11:57:09am

re: #87 HappyWarrior

and will continue to do so. And as VB said, his idea of religious liberty is denying religious liberty to others whether that person be Gay, Muslim, or just about anyone who doesn’t fit his idea of a Christian. Funny how his screeds are always about denying people rights rather than the charity and love of Christianity. He’s no Christian. He’s a hateful asshole.

Whatever would po$$e$$ a man to be $uch an a$$hole…?

96 Bulworth  Thu, May 9, 2013 11:57:44am

re: #79 Vicious Babushka

DERP

“You can have my gun when you pry from my cold, dead fingers.”

OK, man, whatever….

97 Vicious Babushka  Thu, May 9, 2013 11:58:04am

re: #95 wrenchwench

Whatever would po$$e$$ a man to be $uch an a$$hole…?

I think he would be a hateful asshole for free. The $$$ is just icing on the cake.

98 HappyWarrior  Thu, May 9, 2013 11:59:08am

re: #95 wrenchwench

Whatever would po$$e$$ a man to be $uch an a$$hole…?

Ha, yeah true, it’s just funny seeing how he’s always on Twitter whining about how the country isn’t Christian enough and I’ve never seen him engage in one of the biggest tenets of Christianity and that’s charity and love of others. Of course, you could say that about the religious right as a whole but Fischer’s whole thing seems to be “I’m pissed off that Muslims and Gays have the same rights as I do under the law and that means I’m being persecuted.”

99 JeffFX  Thu, May 9, 2013 12:03:29pm

re: #79 Vicious Babushka

Makes perfect sense if you mistake far right religious tyranny for religious liberty. Brian isn’t. big on liberty for people who aren’t.him.

100 William Barnett-Lewis  Thu, May 9, 2013 12:06:10pm

re: #98 HappyWarrior

Ha, yeah true, it’s just funny seeing how he’s always on Twitter whining about how the country isn’t Christian enough and I’ve never seen him engage in one of the biggest tenets of Christianity and that’s charity and love of others. Of course, you could say that about the religious right as a whole but Fischer’s whole thing seems to be “I’m pissed off that Muslims and Gays have the same rights as I do under the law and that means I’m being persecuted.”

I think he’s a satanist trying to make christians look bad.

///

As if we didn’t do a good enough job of it… :eek:

101 darthstar  Thu, May 9, 2013 12:08:04pm

Went out to dinner with the missus last night…French place…good food, but suddenly I felt like a burger (which they don’t have). My solution? Steak tartare and a salad…I like my burgers rare anyway.

102 Vicious Babushka  Thu, May 9, 2013 12:12:00pm

The Cleveland story seems to have captured the wingnuts’ imaginations. What was the worst thing that happened? The victims were FORCED TO HAVE ABORTIONS.

the kidnapper was a DEMOCRAT.

103 A Mom Anon  Thu, May 9, 2013 12:14:42pm

re: #102 Vicious Babushka

They all need to drink a steaming cup of STFU. Every 15 minutes. Forever.

104 darthstar  Thu, May 9, 2013 12:15:56pm

re: #102 Vicious Babushka

The news coverage has been nothing short of horror porn. Waiting for this story to go away.

105 bratwurst  Thu, May 9, 2013 12:16:17pm

re: #102 Vicious Babushka

The Cleveland story seems to have captured the wingnuts’ imaginations. What was the worst thing that happened? The victims were FORCED TO HAVE ABORTIONS.

Rush Limbaugh is spinning it in a way I don’t even want to discuss, it’s too obnoxious. In general, I am absolutely sickened by the coverage…especially on CNN. Yes, it is a big story and people want information. That doesn’t mean an anchor has to repeat the most shocking and disgusting details every 10 minutes with a rueful shake of the head.

106 Sol Berdinowitz  Thu, May 9, 2013 12:16:21pm

Passive-aggressive religious fundamentalists at work again:

Public school cancels graduation rather than remove prayer from ceremony

107 lawhawk  Thu, May 9, 2013 12:16:58pm

re: #102 Vicious Babushka

108 erik_t  Thu, May 9, 2013 12:17:37pm

re: #104 darthstar

The news coverage has been nothing short of horror porn. Waiting for this story to go away.

Offhand, I can’t think of more disgusting coverage of anything, ever. Dead serious. Even BBC got in on it. Absolutely shameful.

109 Sol Berdinowitz  Thu, May 9, 2013 12:17:52pm

re: #105 bratwurst

That doesn’t mean an anchor has to repeat the most shocking and disgusting details every 10 minutes with a rueful shake of the head.

If there weren’t enough people luridly lapping up every detail, there would be no announcers going out of their was to meet the demand.

110 lawhawk  Thu, May 9, 2013 12:18:12pm

re: #106 Sol Berdinowitz

Cthulhu will annoint them properly for their achievements in skullduggery.

111 Lidane  Thu, May 9, 2013 12:18:19pm

re: #106 Sol Berdinowitz

Passive-aggressive religious fundamentalists at work again:

Public school cancels graduation rather than remove prayer from ceremony

And it’s not in Texas? I’m impressed.

112 lawhawk  Thu, May 9, 2013 12:20:10pm

re: #104 darthstar

The news coverage has been nothing short of horror porn. Waiting for this story to go away.

Benghazi!!!!!TY JodiArias… now on suicide watch…. 11TY! /

IMPEACH OBAMA WATCH!!!!TY

We now return to your regularly scheduled broadcast. /

113 darthstar  Thu, May 9, 2013 12:20:47pm

re: #105 bratwurst

Rush Limbaugh is spinning it in a way I don’t even want to discuss, it’s too obnoxious. In general, I am absolutely sickened by the coverage…especially on CNN. Yes, it is a big story and people want information. That doesn’t mean an anchor has to repeat the most shocking and disgusting details every 10 minutes with a rueful shake of the head.

Repeat details? They’re fantasizing about how terrible it was for the victims and hypothesizing about how they were ‘mentally as well as physically shackled’…and that’s a direct quote from some asshole expert on MSNBC.

114 Sol Berdinowitz  Thu, May 9, 2013 12:20:49pm

re: #111 Lidane

And it’s not in Texas? I’m impressed.

Arkansas is the very buckle of the Bible Belt.

And, not coincidentally, the state that gave us Bill Clinton.

This dichotomy shold not be overlooked: these people need God and morality writ big in public life, without it, they would all start to revert to the drinkinest, fighinest, gamblinest, cussinest whoremongers on the face of God’s Green Earth…

115 bratwurst  Thu, May 9, 2013 12:21:04pm

re: #109 Sol Berdinowitz

If there weren’t enough people luridly lapping up every detail, there would be no announcers going out of their was to meet the demand.

But it is also a chicken and egg thing. The new management of CNN has absolutely blown a chance to show they are at least a millimeter above others in their treatment of this story. Instead, they are bound and determined to prove they can be just as tasteless as anyone.

116 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, May 9, 2013 12:21:35pm

re: #105 bratwurst

Rush Limbaugh is spinning it in a way I don’t even want to discuss, it’s too obnoxious. In general, I am absolutely sickened by the coverage…especially on CNN. Yes, it is a big story and people want information. That doesn’t mean an anchor has to repeat the most shocking and disgusting details every 10 minutes with a rueful shake of the head.

They have to run with it now. This isn’t going to be any sort of show trial since they’re betting he will plead guilty and get sent up without any additional time from them to spin it into an on-going circus and freak show.

117 A Mom Anon  Thu, May 9, 2013 12:21:47pm

re: #107 lawhawk

Do any states have a voter party registry anymore? GA doesn’t. I’m from Ohio and I don’t remember that(though I was in my 20’s when I left back in the 80s so the memory may not be accurate) when I first started voting.

And seriously, wingnuts, if all that bugs you about this is the “abortion” angle(this wasn’t abortion,btw, this was being kicked and punched in the abdomen along with starvation), maybe someone needs to look in your damned basement, you freaking morons. Jesus.

118 darthstar  Thu, May 9, 2013 12:21:59pm

re: #112 lawhawk
JodiArias… now on suicide watch….

119 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, May 9, 2013 12:23:10pm

re: #106 Sol Berdinowitz

Passive-aggressive religious fundamentalists at work again:

Public school cancels graduation rather than remove prayer from ceremony

I hope the parents paid for it instead of the school district too.

120 ProTARDISLiberal  Thu, May 9, 2013 12:24:29pm

Hooray!

121 ProTARDISLiberal  Thu, May 9, 2013 12:26:00pm

re: #114 Sol Berdinowitz

And for 6th Grade graduation too.

Though, to be fair, that is probably the pinnacle of learning down there in the Ozarks.

122 Lidane  Thu, May 9, 2013 12:29:14pm

re: #117 A Mom Anon

Do any states have a voter party registry anymore? GA doesn’t. I’m from Ohio and I don’t remember that(though I was in my 20’s when I left back in the 80s so the memory may not be accurate) when I first started voting.

Texas doesn’t have it either.

The only time party affiliation ever enters the picture is if someone votes in a party primary. At that point, your voter card is stamped with the party name and you’re prevented from voting in any other party primary until your voter registration renews.

123 Backwoods_Sleuth  Thu, May 9, 2013 12:32:36pm

re: #114 Sol Berdinowitz

Arkansas is the very buckle of the Bible Belt.

And, not coincidentally, the state that gave us Bill Clinton.

Also, not coincidentally, the state that gave us Mike Huckabee.

124 Sol Berdinowitz  Thu, May 9, 2013 12:33:22pm

re: #115 bratwurst

But it is also a chicken and egg thing. The new management of CNN has absolutely blown a chance to show they are at least a millimeter above others in their treatment of this story. Instead, they are bound and determined to prove they can be just as tasteless as anyone.

I see that supply follows demand. I stopped getting my news from TV media ages ago. Granted, the TV switched on in the den/living room is the default setting in most American households, but there is nothing that requires it to be so other than our sense of habit.

125 Bubblehead II  Thu, May 9, 2013 12:33:52pm

re: #122 Lidane

Texas doesn’t have it either.

The only time party affiliation ever enters the picture is if someone votes in a party primary. At that point, your voter card is stamped with the party name and you’re prevented from voting in any other party primary until your voter registration renews.

Hell, here in Idaho we don’t even have voter registration cards (yet) as it was only this year that you had to declare your affiliation to vote in the Republican primary as they went to a closed system. Democrats on the other hand basically said we don’t care, just come and vote.

126 A Mom Anon  Thu, May 9, 2013 12:37:14pm

re: #122 Lidane

So in other words, unless Ohio stamps the card, and the morons have actually seen said card, they’re full of shit. Which means all systems are normal in Outer Wingnuttia.

127 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, May 9, 2013 12:41:57pm

re: #126 A Mom Anon

So in other words, unless Ohio stamps the card, and the morons have actually seen said card, they’re full of shit. Which means all systems are normal in Outer Wingnuttia.

The Outer Wingnuttia System is nothing but highly eccentric orbits. And the asteroid belts are particularly dangerous to navigate.

128 Interesting Times  Thu, May 9, 2013 12:43:30pm

re: #108 erik_t

Offhand, I can’t think of more disgusting coverage of anything, ever. Dead serious. Even BBC got in on it. Absolutely shameful.

I haven’t seen that sort of coverage myself; I’ve mostly been following the case on CBC (Canadian) news, which so far has seemed more or less respectful and stuck to the facts:

cbc.ca

129 ProTARDISLiberal  Thu, May 9, 2013 12:50:26pm

Testing to see if the changes went through right.

re: #106 Sol Berdinowitz

These parents are clearly morons. They think Freedom is a zero-sum thing.

130 ProTARDISLiberal  Thu, May 9, 2013 12:50:55pm

re: #129 ProBosniaLiberal

Now I need to find a new pic. Hold on.

131 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, May 9, 2013 12:51:31pm

Yikes!

132 darthstar  Thu, May 9, 2013 12:52:00pm

Heh…Alan Colmes got Bryan Fischer where it hurts.

“Alan, I am not going to talk about that,” Fischer laughed. “Alan, I’m not going to go there! Give it a rest!”

“It’s a simple yes or no question,” Colmes observed.

“We’re not going to talk about that,” Fischer insisted.

“Because maybe if you’ve been able to overcome your gay impulses and you’ve been successful in doing it, you could be a model for other people you’d like to see act the same way,” Colmes pressed.

133 Joanne  Thu, May 9, 2013 12:53:07pm

re: #79 Vicious Babushka

DERP

My old, white, and on very rare occasion, racist dad (89 in 2001, just shy of 90, God rest his soul), would have said, in his most eloquent way: if faggots wanna get married, who gives a shit?

(Did I mention eloquent? YMMV :-)

(He never used the N word, but once or twice his comments made me go…WHAT??)

134 EPR-radar  Thu, May 9, 2013 12:53:39pm

re: #19 Sol Berdinowitz

I cannot disagree with many of the assertions made against Obama…but I can only add that that is how politicians off all stripes react and have always reacted to foreign policy crises: by putting their own political interests above America’s interests

I have to call BS on this. The Democratic Party reaction to 9/11 was not political theater in the House, with hearings being called by senior Democrats to explore troofer fantasies in the Congressional Record.

The reaction to the attack on Pearl Harbor did not feature this kind of nuttiness by senior Republicans in Congress either.

However, if another Pearl Harbor attack were to occur tomorrow, then yes, I do believe the House Republicans would put party above country. They have fallen that far.

135 Joanne  Thu, May 9, 2013 12:55:58pm

re: #85 Lidane

Ooh. POTUS just mentioned using Executive Orders on jobs.

Cue the ‘splodey heads.

Oh! I love ‘splodey heads at sunset. I think Monet and Van Gogh captured them perfectly.

136 Romantic Heretic  Thu, May 9, 2013 12:56:19pm

re: #87 HappyWarrior

and will continue to do so. And as VB said, his idea of religious liberty is denying religious liberty to others whether that person be Gay, Muslim, or just about anyone who doesn’t fit his idea of a Christian. Funny how his screeds are always about denying people rights rather than the charity and love of Christianity. He’s no Christian. He’s a hateful asshole.

To me it shows that when people like Mr. Fischer and other wingnuts talk about ‘liberty’ they’re really talking about power. Power for them to shape the world to their liking no matter who gets hurt.

They’re allowed. It’s a free country. I just wish they’d be honest about it.

137 Sol Berdinowitz  Thu, May 9, 2013 12:56:29pm

re: #134 EPR-radar

I have to call BS on this. The Democratic Party reaction to 9/11 was not political theater in the House, with hearings being called by senior Democrats to explore troofer fantasies in the Congressional Record.

The reaction to the attack on Pearl Harbor did not feature this kind of nuttiness by senior Republican in Congress either.

However, if another Pearl Harbor attack were to occur tomorrow, then yes, I do believe the House Republicans would put party above country. They have fallen that far.

Lemme clarify: I can agree with some of their assertions, but not to the extent of comparing it to Watergate or warranting an endless stream of hearings.

138 Sol Berdinowitz  Thu, May 9, 2013 12:57:08pm

re: #129 ProTARDISLiberal

Testing to see if the changes went through right.

These parents are clearly morons. They think Freedom is a zero-sum thing.

They had to make themselves victims so they could whine and get some sympathetic coverage from Fox.

139 ProTARDISLiberal  Thu, May 9, 2013 12:57:52pm

re: #138 Sol Berdinowitz

And they have the gall to us whiners and crybabies.

140 ProTARDISLiberal  Thu, May 9, 2013 12:58:08pm

WOOHOO!! Success!

141 A Mom Anon  Thu, May 9, 2013 1:02:28pm

And now, for something completely different….Link

It’s from a couple of years ago, but it’s kinda awesome.

142 Kragar  Thu, May 9, 2013 1:06:18pm

DC Police put armed protest organizers on notice

143 erik_t  Thu, May 9, 2013 1:07:56pm

Gay marriage bill passes Minnesota state house 75-59. Essentially assured passage in the Senate, and the governor has pledged his signature.

#12, come on down!

144 darthstar  Thu, May 9, 2013 1:08:49pm

mmm…cats and sushi

Image: nekozusi1.jpg

145 ProTARDISLiberal  Thu, May 9, 2013 1:09:01pm

re: #143 erik_t

Illinois is #13 then.

146 Bulworth  Thu, May 9, 2013 1:10:01pm

re: #143 erik_t

Damn. Minnesota had to beat back an antigay marriage amendment just last year. Quick turnaround.

147 Joanne  Thu, May 9, 2013 1:10:38pm

re: #113 darthstar

Repeat details? They’re fantasizing about how terrible it was for the victims and hypothesizing about how they were ‘mentally as well as physically shackled’…and that’s a direct quote from some asshole expert on MSNBC.

I heard that van Zant ex-FBI profiler (dumbass) talking about the supposed Naked-Woman-on-a-Leash lead, and he went through the psychopathy of that act, and what drives someone to do it, and then said the police fell down on the job, for if he had been on the job, brave FBI agent that he was, he’d have kicked that door down, by golly!

No mention that some people consensually do that BDSM stuff with leash and collars or that there were no grounds to bust the door in.

Look, I hope this guy spends a very long time taking every remaining breath in prison, but that kind of talk serves no one. No one at all, save his appearances on the TV machine.

148 erik_t  Thu, May 9, 2013 1:10:46pm

re: #146 Bulworth

Damn. Minnesota had to beat back an antigay marriage amendment just last year. Quick turnaround.

As I recall, Minnesotans voted that one down pretty damned hard.

149 darthstar  Thu, May 9, 2013 1:12:20pm

re: #143 erik_t

Gay marriage bill passes Minnesota state house 75-59. Essentially assured passage in the Senate, and the governor has pledged his signature.

#12, come on down!

Michele Bachmann will have to keep a closer eye on her husband now.

150 Bulworth  Thu, May 9, 2013 1:12:52pm

re: #148 erik_t

But teh gay marriage has lost everywhere its been…oh wait.

151 Kragar  Thu, May 9, 2013 1:15:02pm

re: #150 Bulworth

But teh gay marriage has lost everywhere its been…oh wait.

And that is why we need a strong Federal law banning gay marriage, but if its legal federally, then States Rights mean a state can vote not to allow them.

HOORAY FOR CONSERVATISM!!!
///

152 blueraven  Thu, May 9, 2013 1:18:45pm

re: #107 lawhawk

He is a “Dark Skinned Individual”. Of course he is a Democrat!! //

Seriously, to quote Hillary Clinton. What possible difference, at this point, does it make? The man is a psychopath. Who really gives a shit what his politics are, if, in fact, he had any?

153 Bulworth  Thu, May 9, 2013 1:20:09pm

Just thinking of all that’s happened since the birth of the Tea Party and its cries for Freedom, Liberty, Less Governmentand Don’t Tread On Me! Turns out that when a party yammers on about Freedom all the time, some people are going to start thinking that maybe that Freedom belongs to Them, too. To the Teabag Party, of course, Freedom means no healthcare for Slackers (themselves excluded). Teh gay isn’t the Freedom they mean. And while the TP hasn’t succeeded in getting the ACA overturned (God knows the House and its 50-odd roll call votes on the subject has tried), atheistic secular humanistic sharia law loving radical islamacists have picked up the baton of Freedom and are hitting the TP and its GOPNRA host over the head with it.

Amen to that.

154 lawhawk  Thu, May 9, 2013 1:22:51pm

re: #152 blueraven

The real issue - and it’s one that the Cleveland Plain Dealer and other local media outlets need to focus on, is how the local police have repeatedly failed the community in tracking down these missing persons reports and allowing serial killers and kidnappers (the current case) to roam freely for as long as they have - even with police interaction over the years.

155 Lidane  Thu, May 9, 2013 1:23:25pm

re: #143 erik_t

Gay marriage bill passes Minnesota state house 75-59. Essentially assured passage in the Senate, and the governor has pledged his signature.

#12, come on down!

156 Kragar  Thu, May 9, 2013 1:25:12pm

William ‘Bib’ Bibbiani 1941-2013

Community mourns loss of straight-talking former school board member

157 Bulworth  Thu, May 9, 2013 1:26:14pm

re: #155 Lidane

I thought PBO already brought tyranny. Do we have to wait for all 50 states to approve SSM before we get tyranny? What kind of sh$t is that?

//

158 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, May 9, 2013 1:27:33pm
159 leftynyc  Thu, May 9, 2013 1:29:32pm

re: #158 NJDhockeyfan

I understand he was charged with kidnapping and rape - do either of those carry the death penalty in OH or is he going to charge him with something else?

160 darthstar  Thu, May 9, 2013 1:30:11pm

Another radical Islamist stopped…Buford “Bucky” Rogers, of Minnesota (where teh ghey marriage will start happening…coincidence? I think not!)

avirip.com

Pipe bombs and Molotov cocktails(a SOVIET CONNEXION!!TSARNAEV!!!BENGHAZI!)

161 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce  Thu, May 9, 2013 1:31:32pm

re: #155 Lidane

That sounds like a plot element in a [hilarious] John Waters movie. Gay tyrants coming to power in a coup and forcing sheltered suburban ‘family-oriented’ types into slavery.

162 Kragar  Thu, May 9, 2013 1:31:43pm

re: #159 leftynyc

I understand he was charged with kidnapping and rape - do either of those carry the death penalty in OH or is he going to charge him with something else?

Supposedly getting the girls pregnant at least 5 times, then starving them and beating them in the stomachs till they miscarried.

163 wrenchwench  Thu, May 9, 2013 1:55:43pm

re: #156 Kragar

What a great man. What a loss.

{Kragar}

“Bib had some great stories,”

I wouldn’t mind reading more of them.

164 Kragar  Thu, May 9, 2013 2:00:34pm

re: #163 wrenchwench

What a great man. What a loss.

{Kragar}

I wouldn’t mind reading more of them.

My Dad’s favorite joke, written by him:

A man trekked into the Australian outback, got lost, and passed out from exhaustion and thirst. He woke up in a nunnery. “Where am I?” he asked the Mother Superior. “You are with the Sisters of Mercy,” she said. “Could I have something to drink?” he asked. She handed him a mug, and he sipped it. “Delicious! What is this?” “Tea,” she replied.” He sips again. “I’ve never had anything like it. What’s it made from?” “From the hide of koala,” she said.

Confused, but thirsty, he chugged the drink only to start coughing. At the bottom of the mug were huge tufts of koala fur. “Sister,” he begged, spitting out all the hair. “Why…?!”

“Because,” the Mother Superior told him, “The koala tea of Mercy is not strained.”

165 wrenchwench  Thu, May 9, 2013 2:08:17pm

re: #164 Kragar

My Dad’s favorite joke, written by him:

GOL

(Groaned…)

Now I see where you get it from, or is your mother funny too?

166 Kragar  Thu, May 9, 2013 2:11:08pm

re: #165 wrenchwench

GOL

(Groaned…)

Now I see where you get it from, or is your mother funny too?

She’s got a sense of humor but can never remember a joke.

167 wrenchwench  Thu, May 9, 2013 2:13:30pm

re: #166 Kragar

She’s got a sense of humor but can never remember a joke.

That sounds like the ideal couple. She’d never get tired of the same jokes.

168 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi  Thu, May 9, 2013 2:32:35pm

re: #117 A Mom Anon

Do any states have a voter party registry anymore? GA doesn’t. I’m from Ohio and I don’t remember that(though I was in my 20’s when I left back in the 80s so the memory may not be accurate) when I first started voting.

And seriously, wingnuts, if all that bugs you about this is the “abortion” angle(this wasn’t abortion,btw, this was being kicked and punched in the abdomen along with starvation), maybe someone needs to look in your damned basement, you freaking morons. Jesus.

You can register in Mass. as a Democrat, a Republican, or “Unenrolled” (i.e., Independent). Unenrolled voters get to choose which party’s primary they vote in on any given primary election day.

You may also be able to choose some other affiliation; I don’t remember.

169 JeffFX  Thu, May 9, 2013 3:34:55pm

re: #79 Vicious Babushka


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