1 | FemNaziBitch Tue, Nov 5, 2013 2:10:38pm |
2 | Eclectic Cyborg Tue, Nov 5, 2013 2:12:13pm |
I saw this at Target yesterday.
Such a fine example of “when movie franchises get mercilessly beaten into dust.”
3 | dog philosopher Tue, Nov 5, 2013 2:13:20pm |
Va. gov race seen as referendum on ObamaCare
i can only think that fox news is running this headline in order to get cooch voters out and to the polls
4 | Kragar Tue, Nov 5, 2013 2:17:33pm |
How many women need erectile dysfunction treatments or prostate exams?
5 | Mike Lamb Tue, Nov 5, 2013 2:17:46pm |
re: #3 dog philosopher
Va. gov race seen as referendum on ObamaCare
i can only think that fox news is running this headline in order to get cooch voters out and to the polls
If only there hadn’t been some other, larger election that could have acted as a referendum on the ACA! Why couldn’t we have had the good fortune of a national election where voters could have made a decision about the ACA?
6 | Mike Lamb Tue, Nov 5, 2013 2:18:53pm |
re: #4 Kragar
How many women need erectile dysfunction treatments or prostate exams?
And I wonder how the usage of ER rooms and their associated expenses plays out gender-wise and what those costs do to the risk pool…
7 | Bulworth Tue, Nov 5, 2013 2:19:02pm |
re: #1 FemNaziBitch
VICTORY! Senate Bill 10 (The Freedom to Marry) Passes in the Illinois House
Chalk up another victory for freedom orchestrated by the Tea Party and Koch Industries. Oh wait….
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8 | darthstar Tue, Nov 5, 2013 2:19:14pm |
Illinois passes gay marriage bill.
#IL4M - Marriage equality now in almost as many states as have embraced #Obamacare.— Sean McCabe (@darthstar99) November 5, 2013
9 | Bulworth Tue, Nov 5, 2013 2:19:51pm |
re: #5 Mike Lamb
Well if Cooch goes down to defeat, then this election will be nullified as a suitable test case for opposing Obamacare and another election example will be needed. /
10 | kirkspencer Tue, Nov 5, 2013 2:20:42pm |
re: #9 Bulworth
Well if Cooch goes down to defeat, then this election will be nullified as a suitable test case for opposing Obamacare and another election example will be needed. /
It cannot fail, it can only be failed. (sigh)
11 | klys Tue, Nov 5, 2013 2:21:41pm |
re: #4 Kragar
How many women need erectile dysfunction treatments or prostate exams?
I wish erectile dysfunction treatment was held to the same standards as contraception. Because where contraception does have uses other than enabling slutty sexytimes, I haven’t heard of another use for erectile dysfunction treatments.
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13 | Lidane Tue, Nov 5, 2013 2:24:36pm |
re: #4 Kragar
How many women need erectile dysfunction treatments or prostate exams?
Apparently a lot of them if my Spam inbox is anything to go by. Haha.
14 | Eclectic Cyborg Tue, Nov 5, 2013 2:25:01pm |
I’ll be very curious to see the results of the Alabama vote tonight. Not that I am particularly fond of either GOP guy but this will be a good test of establishment GOP vs. Tea Party GOP
15 | Eclectic Cyborg Tue, Nov 5, 2013 2:25:38pm |
re: #13 Lidane
Apparently a lot of them if my Spam inbox is anything to go by. Haha.
lol. Men must be pretty gullible. Most women don’t even like large penises.
16 | jaunte Tue, Nov 5, 2013 2:26:14pm |
Tommy Cristopher:
What Obamacare does is require people to purchase health insurance, and defines what health insurance is. A man who can never get pregnant is paying for health insurance, and the term health insurance now refers to something that covers maternity care, but also covers prostate screenings that women will never need. That’s just what health insurance is now, just as a car is now a thing that has seatbelts and airbags, and a jar of peanut butter is something that only has an average of 30 or less insect fragments per 100 grams. You can’t get a discount for peanut butter with more bugs in it, that’s just how it comes.
mediaite.com
Sorry, bug lovers.
17 | kirkspencer Tue, Nov 5, 2013 2:26:22pm |
re: #11 klys
I wish erectile dysfunction treatment was held to the same standards as contraception. Because where contraception does have uses other than enabling slutty sexytimes, I haven’t heard of another use for erectile dysfunction treatments.
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heh.
The Clis is used to treat some symptoms associated with enlarged prostrates. (It lets men pee.)
The key ingredient of Vgra is used to treat pulmonary hypertension (high blood pressure in the lungs).
Both are rare uses of the respective drugs.
18 | Mike Lamb Tue, Nov 5, 2013 2:26:27pm |
re: #9 Bulworth
Well if Cooch goes down to defeat, then this election will be nullified as a suitable test case for opposing Obamacare and another election example will be needed. /
Naturally. A more conservative candidate would have been needed. As well as additional vetting of Obama, which, of course, has not been done thus far.
19 | thedopefishlives Tue, Nov 5, 2013 2:26:27pm |
re: #15 Eclectic Cyborg
lol. Men must be pretty gullible. Most women don’t even like large penises.
Us men all know that’s just a lie started by a man who was feeling inadequate.///
20 | Kragar Tue, Nov 5, 2013 2:27:01pm |
re: #15 Eclectic Cyborg
lol. Men must be pretty gullible. Most women don’t even like large penises.
Which is why there is such a large market for 2-3 inch vibrators…
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21 | Jack Burton Tue, Nov 5, 2013 2:27:37pm |
re: #4 Kragar
How many women need erectile dysfunction treatments or prostate exams?
Same as the number of men needing pap smears and menopausal hormone therapy.
22 | klys Tue, Nov 5, 2013 2:29:21pm |
re: #17 kirkspencer
heh.
The Clis is used to treat some symptoms associated with enlarged prostrates. (It lets men pee.)
The key ingredient of Vgra is used to treat pulmonary hypertension (high blood pressure in the lungs).Both are rare uses of the respective drugs.
I don’t begrudge it, but the fact that nobody blinks an eye about erectile dysfunction drugs whereas it’s pulling teeth to have contraception covered and women having to jump through 47 hoops to prove that it is for a medical purpose (if the religious right gets their way) pisses me off.
23 | Charles Johnson Tue, Nov 5, 2013 2:29:21pm |
Dudebros showing their serious commitment to freedumb.
AN AMERICAN FLAG BURNING OUTSIDE THE WHITE HOUSE FOR THE #MILLIONMASKMARCH. @APBLAKE. pic.twitter.com/OjPTIKexJz— PzFeed Top News (@PzFeed) November 5, 2013
25 | Sol Berdinowitz Tue, Nov 5, 2013 2:29:44pm |
re: #17 kirkspencer
heh.
The Clis is used to treat some symptoms associated with enlarged prostrates. (It lets men pee.)
The key ingredient of Vgra is used to treat pulmonary hypertension (high blood pressure in the lungs).Both are rare uses of the respective drugs.
and birth control pills are also used for reducing cancer risk and treating certain skin ailments…
26 | Eclectic Cyborg Tue, Nov 5, 2013 2:30:53pm |
re: #20 Kragar
Which is why there is such a large market for 2-3 inch vibrators…
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Hey now, there’s a middle ground between large and small. Just because all men aren’t walking around with 9 inchers doesn’t mean they’re lacking either.
And actually my statement was based upon conversations with a number of women throughout my adult life. I have yet to encounter one that prefers a “larger” man.
27 | FemNaziBitch Tue, Nov 5, 2013 2:31:46pm |
re: #26 Eclectic Cyborg
Hey now, there’s a middle ground between large and small. Just because all men aren’t walking around with 9 inchers doesn’t mean they’re lacking either.
And actually my statement was based upon conversations with a number of women throughout my adult life. I have yet to encounter one that prefers a “larger” man.
technique will always beat size
28 | kirkspencer Tue, Nov 5, 2013 2:32:00pm |
29 | Kragar Tue, Nov 5, 2013 2:32:21pm |
Illinois Republican: Same-sex marriage debate should be about the Bible, not human rights
Illinois state Rep. Dwight Kay (R-Glen Carbon) on Tuesday complained that supporters of same-sex marriage frequently spoke about human rights but neglected the Biblical scriptures.
“The other thing I didn’t hear today was the fact that this nation was built on the scriptures,” he said on the House floor. “And then came the Constitution. Is that not right?”
“I think it is,” Kay continued. “Our Constitution has always looked to the scriptures for its guidance and its columns and its foundations and its leanings, its underpinnings. And, yet, I’ve heard nothing today about the scriptures. The only thing I have heard is about human rights.”
“So I guess we have walked away, we have backed away from our heritage in this nation, which we seem to do quite regularly for the expediency of what we wish to do in the moment,” he remarked. “And, ladies and gentlemen, that’s pride. That’s the belief you’re better than the very foundations of this nation which we find in the scriptures.”
Kay, go eat a bag of dicks.
30 | klys Tue, Nov 5, 2013 2:33:03pm |
re: #28 kirkspencer
I know, I agree, I was just responding to the “I know of no other use for erectile dysfunction medication” comment.
Banning any drug because one of the uses is icky is wrong.
Agreed. I’m just more drawing attention to the fact that drugs that enable slutty sexytimes are fine for men but EVIL for women.
31 | Justanotherhuman Tue, Nov 5, 2013 2:33:09pm |
re: #15 Eclectic Cyborg
lol. Men must be pretty gullible. Most women don’t even like large penises.
Yeah, it’s not women who have penis envy, it’s men.
Hey guys, we don’t want to get injured, you know, so stop thinking that bigger is better.
32 | Gus Tue, Nov 5, 2013 2:33:14pm |
re: #23 Charles Johnson
Dudebros showing their serious commitment to freedumb.
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Just stumbled upon an IRL poster for @BarrettBrownLOL near the White House. Weird. pic.twitter.com/eBhlgwrVWY— Andrew Blake (@apblake) November 5, 2013
33 | Dark_Falcon Tue, Nov 5, 2013 2:33:23pm |
You don’t have to like Jonah Goldberg to enjoy this tweet:
.@exjon This easily one of my favorite pictures of all time. It should spawn dissertations. http://t.co/xQzd9XcJCi
— Jonah Goldberg (@JonahNRO) November 5, 2013
34 | FemNaziBitch Tue, Nov 5, 2013 2:33:36pm |
re: #29 Kragar
Illinois Republican: Same-sex marriage debate should be about the Bible, not human rights
Kay, go eat a bag of dicks.
I’m sorry, did I miss the Headline that G-d wanted to marry Zeus and couldn’t because same sex marriage was illegal in Illinois?
WTF
35 | The Ghost of a Flea Tue, Nov 5, 2013 2:34:18pm |
re: #29 Kragar
Illinois Republican: Same-sex marriage debate should be about the Bible, not human rights
Kay, go eat a bag of dicks.
Funny how the Bible only comes into play when it’s about fucking.
Poor people? Nope.
Sympathy for the suffering? Nope.
Forgiveness of trespasses? Nope.
Fuck this guy.
Forgiveness of debts? Nope.
36 | Dark_Falcon Tue, Nov 5, 2013 2:34:44pm |
re: #23 Charles Johnson
Dudebros showing their serious commitment to freedumb.
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I can't think of a greater level of intellectual confusion than burning an American flag in front of the White House on Guy Fawkes Day.
— Chris Zeitz (@PrivateSnuffy) November 5, 2013
37 | thedopefishlives Tue, Nov 5, 2013 2:35:16pm |
re: #35 The Ghost of a Flea
Funny how the Bible only comes into play when it’s about fucking.
Poor people? Nope.
Sympathy for the suffering? Nope.
Forgiveness of trespasses? Nope.Fuck this guy.
Forgiveness of debts? Nope.
Selective Quotation Jesus approves.
38 | jaunte Tue, Nov 5, 2013 2:35:54pm |
#tcot RT @Politics_PR My fellow Americans, ask not what your country can do for you, ask what you can do for me pic.twitter.com/RAbuXEWK54
— Ray Hussein Obama (@CoronaRay) November 5, 2013
39 | Eclectic Cyborg Tue, Nov 5, 2013 2:35:56pm |
re: #27 FemNaziBitch
technique will always beat size
When I was in college a middle aged lady who hosted one of those “sex talk” cable shows visited our campus once. I remember her talking about how the vagina only has sensitivity for the first several inches so her advice to guys was: “There’s no use banging away on the door when nobody’s home!”
40 | Kragar Tue, Nov 5, 2013 2:36:02pm |
@PeterLaBarbera @RightWingWatch Arrogance of Evangelicals: Thinking the whole world should live by their rules.— Kragar (@Kragar_LGF) November 5, 2013
41 | Targetpractice Tue, Nov 5, 2013 2:36:18pm |
re: #29 Kragar
Illinois Republican: Same-sex marriage debate should be about the Bible, not human rights
Kay, go eat a bag of dicks.
Oh, how I long for the day when people who declare that the Constitution is based upon or draws from the Bible are looked at like the loons declaring that the moon landing was faked.
42 | FemNaziBitch Tue, Nov 5, 2013 2:36:22pm |
re: #35 The Ghost of a Flea
Funny how the Bible only comes into play when it’s about fucking.
Poor people? Nope.
Sympathy for the suffering? Nope.
Forgiveness of trespasses? Nope.Fuck this guy.
Forgiveness of debts? Nope.
Yeah, the Religious Whackos seem to have an obsession with it. Maybe THEY need the oppressive rules? IMHO, mental health treatment might just work better.
45 | The Ghost of a Flea Tue, Nov 5, 2013 2:37:12pm |
re: #33 Dark_Falcon
You don’t have to like Jonah Goldberg to enjoy this tweet:
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People that live in houses made of fake Hitler equivalencies shouldn’t throw rocks.
46 | Flying Squirrel Girl Tue, Nov 5, 2013 2:37:18pm |
re: #29 Kragar
Funny how they don’t bring up the scriptures that teach us how to treat slaves as an example, or the fact that it is no longer cool to treat women as chattel (well, sort of). Those are taught in the bible as well.
47 | FemNaziBitch Tue, Nov 5, 2013 2:37:20pm |
re: #39 Eclectic Cyborg
When I was in college a middle aged lady who hosted one of those “sex talk” cable shows visited our campus once. I remember her talking about how the vagina only has sensitivity for the first several inches so her advice to guys was: “There’s no use banging away on the door when nobody’s home!”
I’ve never understood the idea that a battering ram was a sexual turn-on.
48 | Dark_Falcon Tue, Nov 5, 2013 2:38:43pm |
re: #43 Gus
Don’t tread on me!!!!!!!!
Would some one please tell the couch commando that Halloween was last Thursday?
49 | Justanotherhuman Tue, Nov 5, 2013 2:39:04pm |
re: #47 FemNaziBitch
I’ve never understood the idea that a battering ram was a sexual turn-on.
Well, you know that a guy had to start calling it “banging”, too.
50 | thedopefishlives Tue, Nov 5, 2013 2:39:04pm |
re: #47 FemNaziBitch
I’ve never understood the idea that a battering ram was a sexual turn-on.
It’s a man-centric idea, naturally. It’s funny how many stupid ideas turn out to be that way.
51 | Targetpractice Tue, Nov 5, 2013 2:39:13pm |
re: #40 Kragar
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“Create”? Were marriages “created” when Loving v. Virginia ended the era of making interracial marriage illegal?
52 | klys Tue, Nov 5, 2013 2:39:25pm |
The OMG EVILS OF OBAMACARE derper from the overnight thread is plugging away again.
53 | Kragar Tue, Nov 5, 2013 2:39:44pm |
Ah, this old chestnut…
Jon, who’s a very good looking man walks into a singles bar, gets a drink and has a seat. During the course of the evening he tries to chat with every single woman who walks into the bar, with no luck.
Suddenly, Bob (who’s a really ugly man, and I mean R-E-A-L-L-Y ugly) walks into the bar. He sits at the bar, and within seconds he is surrounded by women. Very soon he walks out of the bar with the two of the most beautiful women you ever saw.
Disheartened by all this, Jon asks the barman, ‘Excuse me, but that really ugly man just came in here and left with those two stunning women - what’s his secret? He’s as ugly as sin and I’m everything a girl could want but have not been able to connect all night - What’s going on?’
‘Well,’ Said the Barman, ‘I don’t know how he does it, but he does the same thing every night. He walks in, orders a drink, and just sits there licking his eyebrows…’
54 | FemNaziBitch Tue, Nov 5, 2013 2:41:41pm |
re: #53 Kragar
You have a file for these things don’t you?
55 | The Ghost of a Flea Tue, Nov 5, 2013 2:42:18pm |
re: #46 Flying Squirrel Girl
Funny how they don’t bring up the scriptures that teach us how to treat slaves as an example, or the fact that it is no longer cool to treat women as chattel (well, sort of). Those are taught in the bible as well.
I think they’re aware—look at what’s been going on with the Christian patriarchy movement and several related phenomena. . It’s just that the chattel thing isn’t quite ready for its PR rollout.
56 | Kragar Tue, Nov 5, 2013 2:43:08pm |
re: #54 FemNaziBitch
You have a file for these things don’t you?
I do it all with keywords and mnemonics.
57 | Vicious Babushka Tue, Nov 5, 2013 2:43:17pm |
re: #11 klys
I wish erectile dysfunction treatment was held to the same standards as
contraceptionabortion. Because where contraception does have uses other than enabling slutty sexytimes, I haven’t heard of another use for erectile dysfunction treatments.///
FTFY
58 | Flying Squirrel Girl Tue, Nov 5, 2013 2:43:52pm |
re: #55 The Ghost of a Flea
Yes because of oppressive liberals, the only place they can talk freely about spanking their wives is at bible study.
59 | GeneJockey Tue, Nov 5, 2013 2:44:08pm |
re: #30 klys
Agreed. I’m just more drawing attention to the fact that drugs that enable slutty sexytimes are fine for men but EVIL for women.
Which is funny, if you think about it, since the guys are supposed to be having sex, and women aren’t supposed to be having sex, and guys are definitely not supposed to be having sex with each other, so who is it we guys are supposed to be poking?
60 | FemNaziBitch Tue, Nov 5, 2013 2:44:34pm |
You know last month, after nearly 10 years together, LGBT friends of mine got married.
My life hasn’t been affected one bit.
61 | klys Tue, Nov 5, 2013 2:44:40pm |
re: #59 GeneJockey
Which is funny, if you think about it, since the guys are supposed to be having sex, and women aren’t supposed to be having sex, and guys are definitely not supposed to be having sex with each other, so who is it we guys are supposed to be poking?
Sheep?
/runs
62 | FemNaziBitch Tue, Nov 5, 2013 2:44:58pm |
re: #59 GeneJockey
Which is funny, if you think about it, since the guys are supposed to be having sex, and women aren’t supposed to be having sex, and guys are definitely not supposed to be having sex with each other, so who is it we guys are supposed to be poking?
whores/non-human women.
63 | Targetpractice Tue, Nov 5, 2013 2:45:26pm |
64 | thedopefishlives Tue, Nov 5, 2013 2:45:49pm |
re: #61 klys
Sheep?
/runs
The Australians say the New Zealanders are screwing the sheep. The Kiwis say the Aussies are screwing the sheep. Myself, I think it’s the sheep that are the whores.
65 | FemNaziBitch Tue, Nov 5, 2013 2:46:15pm |
re: #64 thedopefishlives
The Australians say the New Zealanders are screwing the sheep. The Kiwis say the Aussies are screwing the sheep. Myself, I think it’s the sheep that are the whores.
They ask for it?
66 | klys Tue, Nov 5, 2013 2:46:27pm |
re: #64 thedopefishlives
The Australians say the New Zealanders are screwing the sheep. The Kiwis say the Aussies are screwing the sheep. Myself, I think it’s the sheep that are the whores.
Scots wear kilts because sheep can hear a zipper from a mile away!
(In Scotland, this is then applied to folks from Glasgow.)
67 | Dark_Falcon Tue, Nov 5, 2013 2:46:39pm |
re: #52 klys
The OMG EVILS OF OBAMACARE derper from the overnight thread is plugging away again.
That’s a Dead Thread Rat Troll. Those used to be common on LGF, but they’re rare now.
68 | goddamnedfrank Tue, Nov 5, 2013 2:47:52pm |
re: #33 Dark_Falcon
You don’t have to like Jonah Goldberg to enjoy this tweet:
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It’s more like an icon of nebulous anti-government angst. The pictures speaks much more to the need for strong regulatory oversight than either most conservative free market zealots or anonymous dudebros would care to admit.
69 | GeneJockey Tue, Nov 5, 2013 2:47:54pm |
re: #62 FemNaziBitch
whores/non-human women.
“What? I could never ask my wife to do THAT! She’s the Mother Of My Children!”
70 | Kragar Tue, Nov 5, 2013 2:48:03pm |
One night, a man and his lady friend were about to enter his apartment, Before he can unlock the door she stops him. “Wait a minute, I can tell how a man makes love by how he unlocks his door. If a guy shoves his key in the lock, and opens the door hard, then that means he is a rough lover. If a man fumbles around and can’t seem to find the hole, then that means he is inexperienced.”
So the guy licks the lock.
71 | FemNaziBitch Tue, Nov 5, 2013 2:48:59pm |
re: #69 GeneJockey
“What? I could never ask my wife to do THAT! She’s the Mother Of My Children!”
That freaking pedestal again. Women are either above or below the status of men. NEVER on the same level.
I wish I could just blow-up that pedestal.
72 | Backwoods_Sleuth Tue, Nov 5, 2013 2:49:10pm |
After exit polls showing he was losing, insiders say Ken Cuccinelli plans to blame witches for his defeat.
— Top Conservative Cat (@TeaPartyCat) November 5, 2013
73 | Dark_Falcon Tue, Nov 5, 2013 2:49:28pm |
re: #68 goddamnedfrank
It’s more like an icon of nebulous anti-government angst. The pictures speaks as much more to the need for strong regulatory oversight than either most conservative free market zealots or anonymous dudebros would care to admit.
Please feel free to expand on this point if you wish.
74 | FemNaziBitch Tue, Nov 5, 2013 2:49:41pm |
75 | Gus Tue, Nov 5, 2013 2:49:49pm |
Skies over UK silent, although it's Guy Fawkes Night, & fireworks are traditional- strict blackout still in force. pic.twitter.com/R0hYv04ttu— WW2 Tweets from 1941 (@RealTimeWWII) November 5, 2013
76 | AlexRogan Tue, Nov 5, 2013 2:49:54pm |
77 | thedopefishlives Tue, Nov 5, 2013 2:50:02pm |
re: #71 FemNaziBitch
That freaking pedestal again. Women are either above or below the status of men. NEVER on the same level.
I wish I could just blow-up that pedestal.
You, me, and every other decent self-respecting individual. The conservative Christian community makes a big deal out of putting women on this pedestal, but to be honest, many of them are so sexually repressed they’re practically in Narnia.
78 | Kragar Tue, Nov 5, 2013 2:50:25pm |
Who would have though Cuccinelli would end up dragging down the guy who think Yoga pants are the mark of Satan?— LOLGOP (@LOLGOP) November 5, 2013
79 | GeneJockey Tue, Nov 5, 2013 2:51:16pm |
re: #64 thedopefishlives
The Australians say the New Zealanders are screwing the sheep. The Kiwis say the Aussies are screwing the sheep. Myself, I think it’s the sheep that are the whores.
An Aussie Scientist friend of mine, who works in Reproductive Endocrinology, was introducing a Kiwi friend’s talk at a conference, with the usual rundown of his CV. He said, “And at this point in his career, he confirmed certain suspicions about New Zealanders by deciding to study Ovine Reproduction.”
80 | Backwoods_Sleuth Tue, Nov 5, 2013 2:51:23pm |
POLL: Majority of Canadians say they would still rather keep Rob Ford than take Ted Cruz back http://t.co/OhphwO7TyI pic.twitter.com/eYO2YTOFb9
— The Daily Edge (@TheDailyEdge) November 5, 2013
81 | klys Tue, Nov 5, 2013 2:51:40pm |
re: #67 Dark_Falcon
That’s a Dead Thread Rat Troll. Those used to be common on LGF, but they’re rare now.
I can’t believe someone actually typed with a straight face something about being forced to pay for these things they don’t need in driving up the cost of health insurance.
83 | FemNaziBitch Tue, Nov 5, 2013 2:53:38pm |
84 | Justanotherhuman Tue, Nov 5, 2013 2:54:22pm |
What kind of idiot pulls a stunt like this? I’m not buying his excuse, not when there are billions of plastic bags around he could have put that crap in, or he could have borrowed another bag.
Student Who Prompted CCSU Lockdown Is Arrested On More Charges
Surveillance Photos Show Realistic-Looking Halloween Costume
NEW BRITAIN — A student who caused alarm by walking through Central Connecticut State University Monday while wearing a Halloween costume was arrested on additional charges Tuesday, a school spokesman said.
“David Kyem was charged with first-degree criminal trespassing after he was seen on campus at about 1:14 p.m. Tuesday, according to a press release from CCSU police. He had been warned not to return to campus until he had met with staff in the university’s office of Student Conduct, the release states.
(snip)
“Central police charged Kyem Monday night with breach of peace and released him after he posted $1,000 bail. After Tuesday’s arrest he was released on a promise to appear. Kyem is scheduled to appear in Superior Court on Nov. 14, for both charges. Kyem is the son of Central geography Professor Peter Kyem.”
86 | Kragar Tue, Nov 5, 2013 2:54:49pm |
This time last year, Team Romney was trying to figure out why ORCA wasn’t working.
87 | thedopefishlives Tue, Nov 5, 2013 2:55:24pm |
re: #86 Kragar
This time last year, Team Romney was trying to figure out why ORCA wasn’t working.
And herer the Republicans were crying about Obamacare websites not working. They apparently have no knowledge of computer systems whatsoever.
89 | FemNaziBitch Tue, Nov 5, 2013 2:57:02pm |
90 | Dark_Falcon Tue, Nov 5, 2013 2:57:11pm |
re: #81 klys
I can’t believe someone actually typed with a straight face something about being forced to pay for these things they don’t need in driving up the cost of health insurance.
I think I don’t understand how health insurance works, because I didn’t understand what he said wrong, other than the part about pre-existing conditions. I’d wager he is wrong, but for some reason I’m not getting it. Could someone help me?
91 | GeneJockey Tue, Nov 5, 2013 2:57:20pm |
re: #86 Kragar
This time last year, Team Romney was trying to figure out why ORCA wasn’t working.
I just flashed on the scene in MIB2, where they’re trying to De-Neuralize K, and all the lights go out, and there’s silence, except to for Jake Jeebs:
“Hmm.”
92 | klys Tue, Nov 5, 2013 2:57:34pm |
re: #89 FemNaziBitch
You can have a prostate or a uterus —choose.
You can have a brain or a penis: choose.
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(no offense is meant to our beloved male lizards. It just had to be done.)
93 | Varek Raith Tue, Nov 5, 2013 2:58:05pm |
94 | goddamnedfrank Tue, Nov 5, 2013 2:58:17pm |
re: #73 Dark_Falcon
Please feel free to expand on this point if you wish.
OSHA Technical Manual (OTM)
Section VIII: Chapter 2
The level of worker protection on display in that Chinese sweatshop is absolutely appalling, and it’s exactly what the Republicans who attack OSHA, environmental health and worker safety standards as crippling business would make legal here. Hate to think what a cross section of those guy’s lung tissues looks like. Then there’s the VOC’s being emitted directly outside, no place that treats worker safety so cavalierly gives a shit about the pollution they’re releasing into the nearby countryside.
95 | FemNaziBitch Tue, Nov 5, 2013 2:58:24pm |
re: #92 klys
You can have a brain or a penis: choose.
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(no offense is meant to our beloved male lizards. It just had to be done.)
When men who have to dress for work complain about wearing tie:
You can wear a tie every day or have a period once a month.
96 | Kragar Tue, Nov 5, 2013 2:58:31pm |
re: #92 klys
You can have a brain or a penis: choose.
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(no offense is meant to our beloved male lizards. It just had to be done.)
No, you can have both. You just only have enough blood to use one at a time.
97 | kirkspencer Tue, Nov 5, 2013 2:59:41pm |
re: #81 klys
I can’t believe someone actually typed with a straight face something about being forced to pay for these things they don’t need in driving up the cost of health insurance.
Of course he did. He claims to be an employer and on the NY Stock Exchange. And everybody knows the insurance documentation is clear in identifying what is and is not covered, in such fashion you don’t have to be a medical expert to understand the inter-connecting issues. //
Actually, I’m going to assume for a moment that he does indeed employ people on the NY Exchange. That means he’s not only wealthy but employs people who are wealthy. And the simple fact is there’s a narrow slice of people for whom insurance is going to be more expensive for the same thing they had before. The buzzword was ‘gold-plated’ insurance and it was identified as a poison pill at the time it was inserted.
So if the person’s being honest (instead of pure troll) he’s using personal anecdote as universal truth - something that sadly happens a lot.
Doesn’t make it better. Just makes me willing to avoid roasting to well-done.
98 | Dark_Falcon Tue, Nov 5, 2013 3:00:21pm |
re: #94 goddamnedfrank
OSHA Technical Manual (OTM)
Section VIII: Chapter 2The level of worker protection on display in that Chinese sweatshop is absolutely appalling, and it’s exactly what the Republicans who attack OSHA, environmental health and worker safety standards as crippling business would make legal here. Hate to think what a cross section of those guy’s lung tissues looks like. Then there’s the VOC’s being emitted directly outside, no place that treats worker safety so cavalierly gives a shit about the pollution they’re releasing into the nearby countryside.
Thank you, your point is well made. VOC = Volatile Organic Compounds, correct?
99 | FemNaziBitch Tue, Nov 5, 2013 3:00:45pm |
Ok, psychologist/sociologists wannbe’s out there. Which is more afraid,
1-a man sitting in a room full of only other men
2-a woman sitting in a room full of only men
?
100 | Varek Raith Tue, Nov 5, 2013 3:00:55pm |
LOL
Youtube Video
101 | AlexRogan Tue, Nov 5, 2013 3:00:56pm |
re: #96 Kragar
No, you can have both. You just only have enough blood to use one at a time.
Unfortunately, for many men, the little head’s gonna override the big head.
102 | GeneJockey Tue, Nov 5, 2013 3:01:41pm |
re: #81 klys
I can’t believe someone actually typed with a straight face something about being forced to pay for these things they don’t need in driving up the cost of health insurance.
It’s apparently all the rage. Goopers and Libertarians are suddenly discovering that most people don’t actually need everything that their insurance covers. Usually, they shut up when you point that most people don’t “need” car insurance or life insurance or homeowners’ insurance, by that definition.
Honest to god, they remind me of a guy I used to work with who didn’t have car insurance, who told me, when I asked what he planned to do if he got into an accident, “I don’t plan to get into an accident.”
To this day, I still don’t know if he was joking. His usual deadpan wasn’t that good.
103 | Dark_Falcon Tue, Nov 5, 2013 3:02:11pm |
re: #99 FemNaziBitch
Ok, psychologist/sociologists wannbe’s out there. Which is more afraid,
1-a man sitting in a room full of only other men
2-a woman sitting in a room full of only men?
Knowing nothing else, I’d say the woman.
104 | Kragar Tue, Nov 5, 2013 3:02:46pm |
105 | Dark_Falcon Tue, Nov 5, 2013 3:03:54pm |
re: #97 kirkspencer
Of course he did. He claims to be an employer and on the NY Stock Exchange. And everybody knows the insurance documentation is clear in identifying what is and is not covered, in such fashion you don’t have to be a medical expert to understand the inter-connecting issues. //
Actually, I’m going to assume for a moment that he does indeed employ people on the NY Exchange. That means he’s not only wealthy but employs people who are wealthy. And the simple fact is there’s a narrow slice of people for whom insurance is going to be more expensive for the same thing they had before. The buzzword was ‘gold-plated’ insurance and it was identified as a poison pill at the time it was inserted.
So if the person’s being honest (instead of pure troll) he’s using personal anecdote as universal truth - something that sadly happens a lot.
Doesn’t make it better. Just makes me willing to avoid roasting to well-done.
Trolls have to be well-done, in order to ensure that any Bad Craziness bacteria they are carrying die.
106 | klys Tue, Nov 5, 2013 3:04:32pm |
re: #90 Dark_Falcon
I think I don’t understand how health insurance works, because I didn’t understand what he said wrong, other than the part about pre-existing conditions. I’d wager he is wrong, but for some reason I’d not getting it. Could someone help me?
The key line would be:
If there is one good thing to come out of this obamacare sticker shock news, perhaps many people who never considered it before will realize how ridiculous it is to be forced to buy something you don’t need. That isn’t how you incentivize the industry to control costs.
Of course, you are very likely to need some form of health care at some point in your life. And you have very little control over when that will happen or what form it will take. As has frequently been said, most young people without insurance are one bus accident away from bankruptcy.
But hey, let’s let society as a whole pay the costs in the form of worse outcomes and more expensive care all around, while being totally ok with denying people coverage based on pre-existing conditions (hope he never hires any new employees, I guess?) and throwing them off the insurance when they cost too much.
107 | Justanotherhuman Tue, Nov 5, 2013 3:04:36pm |
108 | GeneJockey Tue, Nov 5, 2013 3:06:05pm |
re: #99 FemNaziBitch
Ok, psychologist/sociologists wannbe’s out there. Which is more afraid,
1-a man sitting in a room full of only other men
2-a woman sitting in a room full of only men?
Perhaps a better question would be, all else being equal, who has more reason to be afraid?
Then there’s looking at the question the other way - who has more reason to be afraid:
1. A woman alone in a room full of men?
2. A man alone in a room full of woman?
109 | Dark_Falcon Tue, Nov 5, 2013 3:06:40pm |
re: #106 klys
The key line would be:
Of course, you are very likely to need some form of health care at some point in your life. And you have very little control over when that will happen or what form it will take. As has frequently been said, most young people without insurance are one bus accident away from bankruptcy.
But hey, let’s let society as a whole pay the costs in the form of worse outcomes and more expensive care all around, while being totally ok with denying people coverage based on pre-existing conditions (hope he never hires any new employees, I guess?) and throwing them off the insurance when they cost too much.
That helps a good deal. Thank you.
110 | Varek Raith Tue, Nov 5, 2013 3:07:42pm |
111 | wrenchwench Tue, Nov 5, 2013 3:08:23pm |
‘Craziest’ is not the word I would use. Maybe ‘absolutely most horrible, except for the guy that almost died in jail without ever being booked’ (which was also in southern NM).
The craziest Drug War story you’ll read all day http://t.co/zGMtpdeypJ via @dangillmor— Damien Cave (@damiencave) November 5, 2013
112 | goddamnedfrank Tue, Nov 5, 2013 3:08:32pm |
re: #98 Dark_Falcon
Thank you, your point is well made. VOC = Volatile Organic Compounds, correct?
Yep, the pigments in paint are carried by a solvent, and I very much doubt that the people making Guy Fawkes masks are using water base. Dudebros don’t want their masks running in the rain. When the paint dries the solvent doesn’t just magically disappear, if it’s VOC based it has to be captured in giant charcoal hvac filters and disposed of properly or it just floats outside where it causes all kinds of environmental problems.
113 | AlexRogan Tue, Nov 5, 2013 3:08:47pm |
re: #105 Dark_Falcon
Trolls have to be well-done, in order to ensure that any Bad Craziness bacteria they are carrying die.
It’s not bacteria that causes Bad Craziness, it’s a prion disease, like “mad cow disease” and CJD.
/
114 | klys Tue, Nov 5, 2013 3:09:10pm |
re: #109 Dark_Falcon
That helps a good deal. Thank you.
I think this is one of the key reasons why health insurance is such a different beast than things like homeowners insurance or even car insurance. Everyone is likely to use it at some point. Therefore, everyone should contribute as they are able.
This is also why I favor single payer. However, since we got a market based solution, things like the individual mandate are necessary in order to allow reforms like no pre-existing conditions and no throwing people off at the lifetime cap.
115 | Gus Tue, Nov 5, 2013 3:09:36pm |
re: #99 FemNaziBitch
Ok, psychologist/sociologists wannbe’s out there. Which is more afraid,
1-a man sitting in a room full of only other men
2-a woman sitting in a room full of only men?
I don’t know. Maybe a black woman sitting in a room full of only white women from Salon.
116 | GeneJockey Tue, Nov 5, 2013 3:09:42pm |
re: #113 AlexRogan
It’s not bacteria that causes Bad Craziness, it’s a prion disease, like “mad cow disease” and CJD.
/
“Dust off and nuke the site from orbit. It’s the only way to be sure.”
117 | Kragar Tue, Nov 5, 2013 3:10:03pm |
What happens when one of Colbert’s writers makes a script which goes thru TV and movie reviews, replaces the names with shows and staff from Fox News, then tweets them?
This: twitter.com
Poopy fun for the tots, but Mike Huckabee deserves better #PraiseFOX— Real Human Praise (@RealHumanPraise) November 5, 2013
— Real Human Praise (@RealHumanPraise) November 5, 2013
The horror completely sells this network and the script gives them some fun moments to work with, even with its imperfections. #PraiseFOX— Real Human Praise (@RealHumanPraise) November 5, 2013
118 | kirkspencer Tue, Nov 5, 2013 3:10:26pm |
re: #90 Dark_Falcon
I think I don’t understand how health insurance works, because I didn’t understand what he said wrong, other than the part about pre-existing conditions. I’d wager he is wrong, but for some reason I’d not getting it. Could someone help me?
The problem is in part the way insurance works. You’re getting insurance to help you pay for medical expenses. You are not predicting what those expenses will be, neither cause nor procedure. You and a host of other people are putting money in a pool. Some will need more, some will need less - this year. If the insurance company set up the pool correctly then everyone’s benefits will be paid, the insurance company can pay admin and other expenses, and there’s a little profit at the end.
The only things you can identify to have removed are those that are listed. Those items are listed because the listing is required by law to guarantee they’re covered or because they’re covered at non-standard rates.
The problem with cutting and removing and tweaking is that it reduces the number of contributors to the pool. The overall result of reducing the pool membership is that each individual has to pay more because SOMEONE might (will) have a major expense - and the benefits and expenses have to be met. (In the eyes of the company the profit has to be met as well, but that’s a separate argument.)
“I don’t need it, so I want a separate pool that doesn’t cover these things” is in the end more expensive for everyone in both smaller pools.
119 | Backwoods_Sleuth Tue, Nov 5, 2013 3:11:20pm |
re: #102 GeneJockey
Honest to god, they remind me of a guy I used to work with who didn’t have car insurance, who told me, when I asked what he planned to do if he got into an accident, “I don’t plan to get into an accident.”
To this day, I still don’t know if he was joking. His usual deadpan wasn’t that good.
I know people here in Kentucky who don’t have car insurance because “it’s cheaper to pay the fine ($500, usually knocked down to $250 in court) then actually buy the insurance.”
Funny thing is, I paid about that annually for three pickup trucks. Now that I have only two pickups (gave the third one to my niece a couple of weeks ago) the annual premium is less than $400. And that includes the required coverage that I have to pay in Kentucky for uninsured drivers.
120 | Gus Tue, Nov 5, 2013 3:11:48pm |
Actually. If under normal circumstances you find yourself afraid in situations like this you might want to consider therapy.
121 | Dark_Falcon Tue, Nov 5, 2013 3:12:16pm |
re: #118 kirkspencer
The problem is in part the way insurance works. You’re getting insurance to help you pay for medical expenses. You are not predicting what those expenses will be, neither cause nor procedure. You and a host of other people are putting money in a pool. Some will need more, some will need less - this year. If the insurance company set up the pool correctly then everyone’s benefits will be paid, the insurance company can pay admin and other expenses, and there’s a little profit at the end.
The only things you can identify to have removed are those that are listed. Those items are listed because the listing is required by law to guarantee they’re covered or because they’re covered at non-standard rates.
The problem with cutting and removing and tweaking is that it reduces the number of contributors to the pool. The overall result of reducing the pool membership is that each individual has to pay more because SOMEONE might (will) have a major expense - and the benefits and expenses have to be met. (In the eyes of the company the profit has to be met as well, but that’s a separate argument.)
“I don’t need it, so I want a separate pool that doesn’t cover these things” is in the end more expensive for everyone in both smaller pools.
Thank you for that as well.
122 | goddamnedfrank Tue, Nov 5, 2013 3:12:20pm |
re: #114 klys
I think this is one of the key reasons why health insurance is such a different beast than things like homeowners insurance or even car insurance. Everyone is likely to use it at some point. Therefore, everyone should contribute as they are able.
This is also why I favor single payer. However, since we got a market based solution, things like the individual mandate are necessary in order to allow reforms like no pre-existing conditions and no throwing people off at the lifetime cap.
Good middlemen provide a service and increase the value of the product. I have yet to figure out what it is that private insurance companies do that improves healthcare. Certain things like basic utilities and healthcare should pretty much always be run by the government.
123 | Gus Tue, Nov 5, 2013 3:12:36pm |
.@LeftonPost you have to see this —> @TheWeightSaint: Tell me a bedtime story! pic.twitter.com/yx6o56Y6Kw— Andie the Obamanista (@andie_walsh) November 5, 2013
124 | Gus Tue, Nov 5, 2013 3:15:54pm |
Ha!
60 Minutes “Rathergate” Investigator Recalls “Lessons” Learned As Benghazi Report Uproars Grow http://t.co/YRQHlcsIc2— Joe Strupp (@JoeStrupp) November 5, 2013
125 | Dark_Falcon Tue, Nov 5, 2013 3:18:44pm |
126 | FemNaziBitch Tue, Nov 5, 2013 3:19:55pm |
I’ve come to understand that men are very afraid of other men —and that this deeply affects society.
A woman alone in a room full of other men has little to fear, actually, because they will be fighting each other to get to her. She has more to fear from being in a room with just one man. As I understand it.
Men, on the other hand, risk much violence if they don’t show only the societal accepted manly behavior.
127 | thedopefishlives Tue, Nov 5, 2013 3:21:16pm |
re: #126 FemNaziBitch
Which is why I was bullied and abused in public school. I’m not “normal” by any stretch of the imagination. The other guys perceived my differences as weakness and pounced on them.
128 | FemNaziBitch Tue, Nov 5, 2013 3:21:36pm |
re: #122 goddamnedfrank
Good middlemen provide a service and increase the value of the product. I have yet to figure out what it is that private insurance companies do that improves healthcare. Certain things like basic utilities and healthcare should pretty much always be run by the government.
Making sure forms are correctly filled-out and needed coverage is applied for certainly makes the insurance agent’s services worth while. Having worked in such office, I really fear for people who don’t use the services of an agent.
Not that it seems to matter with group-health policies —probably more for life, home and auto.
129 | FemNaziBitch Tue, Nov 5, 2013 3:23:04pm |
re: #120 Gus
Actually. If under normal circumstances you find yourself afraid in situations like this you might want to consider therapy.
I think many men fear every situation. I don’t get it entirely yet. There seems to be some underlying male code that is basically the “elephant in the living room”. Homophobia and what not.
130 | FemNaziBitch Tue, Nov 5, 2013 3:23:55pm |
re: #119 Backwoods_Sleuth
I know people here in Kentucky who don’t have car insurance because “it’s cheaper to pay the fine ($500, usually knocked down to $250 in court) then actually buy the insurance.”
Funny thing is, I paid about that annually for three pickup trucks. Now that I have only two pickups (gave the third one to my niece a couple of weeks ago) the annual premium is less than $400. And that includes the required coverage that I have to pay in Kentucky for uninsured drivers.
Cheaper unless you are found at fault in an accident that includes bodily unjury of the other person or death. Then you are in bad, bad shape.
131 | darthstar Tue, Nov 5, 2013 3:24:50pm |
re: #23 Charles Johnson
Dudebros showing their serious commitment to freedumb.
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Rand Paul’s supporters, I presume?
132 | GeneJockey Tue, Nov 5, 2013 3:25:28pm |
re: #114 klys
I think this is one of the key reasons why health insurance is such a different beast than things like homeowners insurance or even car insurance. Everyone is likely to use it at some point. Therefore, everyone should contribute as they are able.
This is also why I favor single payer. However, since we got a market based solution, things like the individual mandate are necessary in order to allow reforms like no pre-existing conditions and no throwing people off at the lifetime cap.
I As I’ve grown older, and had several experiences which demonstrated how many of the conditions that cost tons of money to treat are pretty much random events, I’ve come to believe that the quality of the healthcare one receives should not be primarily a function of one’s income.
The desire of those on the Right to have much of life be a punishment or reward for behavior runs very deep. When you bring up healthcare costs, they will talk about overweight people getting diabetes and heart disease; about Gays getting HIV; about smokers getting lung cancer - it’s always a judgement for some failure, and they shouldn’t have to pay for it. But that’s not how a lot of diseases work. Even obesity is not simply a function of laziness and gluttony, and susceptibility to obesity-related disease isn’t a simple function of weight, either. Most cancers seem to be primarily bad luck, either in your choice of parents, or just a roll of the somatic DNA replication dice.
So, how can one defend the view that those afflicted with diseases they didn’t cause are not our concern?
133 | darthstar Tue, Nov 5, 2013 3:25:46pm |
@BJHare @pinkbunny70 if they can spell it… pic.twitter.com/Cb9vM4XgYb— Robert Ropars (@robertropars) November 5, 2013
134 | klys Tue, Nov 5, 2013 3:27:04pm |
re: #132 GeneJockey
I think it goes right back to the myopic world view where if it doesn’t affect them or fit into their set of experiences in the world, it is automatically invalid and therefore should not be considered by instead disparaged and mocked.
135 | jaunte Tue, Nov 5, 2013 3:27:13pm |
re: #131 darthstar
As Rand Paul said,
“It does not take a majority to prevail… but rather an irate, tireless minority, keen on setting brushfires of freedom in the minds of men.”
Oh wait. That was Sam Adams.
136 | FemNaziBitch Tue, Nov 5, 2013 3:27:20pm |
re: #127 thedopefishlives
Which is why I was bullied and abused in public school. I’m not “normal” by any stretch of the imagination. The other guys perceived my differences as weakness and pounced on them.
Yeah, it seems to be basic male stuff I’ll never totally understand because I don’t have brothers.
137 | FemNaziBitch Tue, Nov 5, 2013 3:27:43pm |
re: #134 klys
I think it goes right back to the myopic world view where if it doesn’t affect them or fit into their set of experiences in the world, it is automatically invalid and therefore should not be considered by instead disparaged and mocked.
Lack of Imagination.
138 | darthstar Tue, Nov 5, 2013 3:29:19pm |
“I write tweets” —Rand Paul not plagiarizing Edward Snowden— Sean McCabe (@darthstar99) November 5, 2013
139 | FemNaziBitch Tue, Nov 5, 2013 3:29:44pm |
140 | thedopefishlives Tue, Nov 5, 2013 3:29:53pm |
re: #136 FemNaziBitch
Yeah, it seems to be basic male stuff I’ll never totally understand because I don’t have brothers.
Neither did I, maybe that’s my problem.
141 | Gus Tue, Nov 5, 2013 3:30:15pm |
re: #129 FemNaziBitch
I think many men fear every situation. I don’t get it entirely yet. There seems to be some underlying male code that is basically the “elephant in the living room”. Homophobia and what not.
I don’t know. Depends on current status and the situation. Today I shuffle into a room with my watch cap and sweat pants; neck beard and all. Don’t really think about who’s there as long as it’s not some nutcase (male or female). Last time it was at Denver general waiting and before that the DMV. At the DMV two men pulled up next to me in the parking lot and the driver told his friend to “get the door for the brother (me).”
142 | FemNaziBitch Tue, Nov 5, 2013 3:30:36pm |
re: #140 thedopefishlives
Neither did I, maybe that’s my problem.
Not your problem, everyone elses!
((thedopefishlives))))
143 | FemNaziBitch Tue, Nov 5, 2013 3:31:03pm |
re: #141 Gus
I don’t know. Depends on current status and the situation. Today I shuffle into a room with my watch cap and sweat pants; neck beard and all. Don’t really think about who’s there as long as it’s not some nutcase (male or female). Last time it was at Denver general waiting and before that the DMV. At the DMV two men pulled up next to me in the parking lot and the driver told his friend to “get the door for the brother (me).”
perhaps such impuses mellow with age.
144 | Gus Tue, Nov 5, 2013 3:31:26pm |
But this is Denver. When I drove through Bakersfield. Well. That was weird. I wasn’t afraid per se but more like “I have to get out of this fucked up redneck town full of angry fuckers quick.”
145 | dog philosopher Tue, Nov 5, 2013 3:31:53pm |
there is a lot of misinformation being propagated out there about insurance companies suffering hardships because of the necessity of insuring people with pre-existing conditions, complete with assertions that the whole enterprise will go down in flames if droves of healthy young people fail to sign up
you would think that the health insurance industry was barely making a profit
in fact of course insuring a person with pre-existing conditions does not automatically lead to an insurance company taking a loss - every policy is a carefully calibrated gamble, which is much more likely to lead to more income for the company rather than a payout, especially in the short term
health insurance company profits are typically estimated at an overall average of about 3.3% per policy, with the overwhelming majority of policies being employer based family policies costing about $200-300/m. multiply that by the estimated number of covered families in the united states, and you’ll get a good estimate of overall net profit for the industry. even if all persons with pre-existing conditions sign up, and very few of these healthy young persons who don’t already have insurance, it will have some impact on the overall profit margin, but hardly enough to eliminate it
and then there is re-insurance, not a very well known aspect of the insurance industry
re-insurance is required by law for most forms of insurance. re-insurance is a policy taken out on a group of regular insurance policies. if the payout on the group of policies exceeds a certain amount during some period of time, the re-insurance policy can be cashed in
basically, re-insurance is insurance against losing too much money
so, if in fact it turned out that some group of policies taken out by people with pre-existing conditions turned out to be a bad gamble, and the insurance company lost a zillion dollars on it in some given year, they would cash in their re-insurance policy on it, and the loss would be amortized by being re-distributed throughout the industry
because, you see, re-insurance companies take out their own re-re-insurance policies, and so on ad infinitum
146 | Kragar Tue, Nov 5, 2013 3:32:33pm |
BREAKING: Illinois legalized gay marriage; entire state engulfed in flames as Satan celebrates his victory by marrying a dog.— Top Conservative Cat (@TeaPartyCat) November 5, 2013
147 | Justanotherhuman Tue, Nov 5, 2013 3:33:14pm |
It seems to me that the very first paragraph in the linked article is wrong in its premise. And BTW, Glenn, corporations can indeed put you in jail by going through the legal system, which you should know, being a hotshot lawyer and all. I actually did that once years ago when an individual wouldn’t pay a bill he owed for a car and I had him jailed. It’s called “executing a judgment”, that judgment having gone through the legal system and the debt still being ignored by the individual. I didn’t want to, but the law firm was working for the company. Happens all the time.
The “huge difference” between government & corporate surveillance http://t.co/3As46CiD2L— Glenn Greenwald (@ggreenwald) November 5, 2013
I don’t think the govt actually monitors my bank acct, either. They would have to get a warrant to do that.
Trying to compare a public entity (the “govt”) to a for profit one (“corp”) is such a false analogy I can’t believe Fung even made it. But any argument in a storm, eh, dudebro?
148 | Gus Tue, Nov 5, 2013 3:33:50pm |
149 | FemNaziBitch Tue, Nov 5, 2013 3:33:51pm |
re: #144 Gus
But this is Denver. When I drove through Bakersfield. Well. That was weird. I wasn’t afraid per se but more like “I have to get out of this fucked up redneck town full of angry fuckers quick.”
Yeah, I don’t think it is male per se, but cultural, perhaps even biological to some degree —hormone levels, brain wiring.
I think it affects our politics as well. One group assumes all men are this way and we have to devise laws to control them, and the other says that all men are this way and can live as rational human beings.
150 | FemNaziBitch Tue, Nov 5, 2013 3:34:22pm |
re: #145 dog philosopher
there is a lot of misinformation being propagated out there about insurance companies suffering hardships because of the necessity of insuring people with pre-existing conditions, complete with assertions that the whole enterprise will go down in flames if droves of healthy young people fail to sign up
you would think that the health insurance industry was barely making a profit
in fact of course insuring a person with pre-existing conditions does not automatically lead to an insurance company taking a loss - every policy is a carefully calibrated gamble, which is much more likely to lead to more income for the company rather than a payout, especially in the short term
health insurance company profits are typically estimated at an overall average of about 3.3% per policy, with the overwhelming majority of policies being employer based family policies costing about $200-300/m. multiply that by the estimated number of covered families in the united states, and you’ll get a good estimate of overall net profit for the industry. even if all persons with pre-existing conditions sign up, and very few of these healthy young persons who don’t already have insurance, it will have some impact on the overall profit margin, but hardly enough to eliminate it
and then there is re-insurance, not a very well known aspect of the insurance industry
re-insurance is required by law for most forms of insurance. re-insurance is a policy taken out on a group of regular insurance policies. if the payout on the group of policies exceeds a certain amount during some period of time, the re-insurance policy can be cashed in
basically, re-insurance is insurance against losing too much money
so, if in fact it turned out that some group of policies taken out by people with pre-existing conditions turned out to be a bad gamble, and the insurance company lost a zillion dollars on it in some given year, they would cash in their re-insurance policy on it, and the loss would be amortized by being re-distributed throughout the industry
because, you see, re-insurance companies take out their own re-re-insurance policies, and so on ad infinitum
I think by the time a person is 40 or 50, everyone has some pre-existing condition. At the very least knee pain.
151 | FemNaziBitch Tue, Nov 5, 2013 3:34:58pm |
152 | GeneJockey Tue, Nov 5, 2013 3:35:12pm |
re: #134 klys
I think it goes right back to the myopic world view where if it doesn’t affect them or fit into their set of experiences in the world, it is automatically invalid and therefore should not be considered by instead disparaged and mocked.
Yeah. I ran into walls in discussions with Conservatives, even relatively intelligent ones, when it came to the possibility that others have different lives. For example, if you say “What about all the people who don’t make enough to afford health insurance?”, they’ll tell you those people should get better jobs.
If you ask, “Are there jobs with health insurance for every last one of the workers who don’t have it now?” they’ll tell you about A JOB that is going begging.
If you point out that half the jobs in America pay less than median wage, they’ll STILL tell you those below the median should get better jobs.
It’s aggressively nonsensical.
153 | FemNaziBitch Tue, Nov 5, 2013 3:36:04pm |
re: #152 GeneJockey
I run into that as well. Everything is a moral issue.
154 | Gus Tue, Nov 5, 2013 3:36:29pm |
re: #151 FemNaziBitch
I’ve become so much more empathetic since the pain set in.
It’s because one becomes busy with their own pain. “Ouch my leg is killing me today” rather than worrying about putting my hand on my waist a certain way. :D
155 | FemNaziBitch Tue, Nov 5, 2013 3:37:55pm |
re: #153 FemNaziBitch
I run into that as well. Everything is a moral issue.
Then the same Conservative will explain why lower paying jobs are so much more available than higher paying jobs. Basic economics, the higher the price, in theory, the rarer the item.
I really have violent-type impulses at this point. I want to just bang my head against the wall.
156 | HappyWarrior Tue, Nov 5, 2013 3:38:03pm |
Heard about Illinois. That’s welcome news.
157 | b_sharp Tue, Nov 5, 2013 3:38:54pm |
re: #15 Eclectic Cyborg
lol. Men must be pretty gullible. Most women don’t even like large penises.
Is that what you’ve been told?
158 | sagehen Tue, Nov 5, 2013 3:40:14pm |
re: #6 Mike Lamb
And I wonder how the usage of ER rooms and their associated expenses plays out gender-wise and what those costs do to the risk pool…
The single most common reason for women’s usage of emergency rooms is… (drumroll)… domestic abuse. The single most common reason for women’s non-emergency medical needs is… (another drumroll)… regarding pregnancy (having one, trying to avoid one, or trying to get one).
So no, I don’t feel men are getting robbed by having to share the financial cost.
(men’s most common health risk and expense — for middle age and above it’s heart disease, for younger men it’s car wrecks).
159 | HappyWarrior Tue, Nov 5, 2013 3:40:47pm |
re: #152 GeneJockey
Yeah. I ran into walls in discussions with Conservatives, even relatively intelligent ones, when it came to the possibility that others have different lives. For example, if you say “What about all the people who don’t make enough to afford health insurance?”, they’ll tell you those people should get better jobs.
If you ask, “Are there jobs with health insurance for every last one of the workers who don’t have it now?” they’ll tell you about A JOB that is going begging.
If you point out that half the jobs in America pay less than median wage, they’ll STILL tell you those below the median should get better jobs.
It’s aggressively nonsensical.
For all their claims to understand economics better than liberals, I think it is often conservatives who don’t understand economics. After all these guys back the party that thinks we keep on spending and spending on defense while at the same giving tax cuts to the wealthiest part of the population or in some cases outright abolishing income tax period is sound economic theory. I love how though speaking of moral issues, it’s a moral issue to deny gay couples marriage rights but we’re not under any obligation so poor kids won’t starve or receive a quality education. It’s always the so-con issues that they talk about these value voters conventions and I’ll tell you why. IT’s not about values to them. It’s about controlling people.
160 | Eclectic Cyborg Tue, Nov 5, 2013 3:42:45pm |
I am now convinced Peter Coyote narrates every documentary in the entire Western Hemisphere.
161 | klys Tue, Nov 5, 2013 3:43:14pm |
re: #158 sagehen
The single most common reason for women’s usage of emergency rooms is… (drumroll)… domestic abuse. The single most common reason for women’s non-emergency medical needs is… (another drumroll)… regarding pregnancy (having one, trying to avoid one, or trying to get one).
So no, I don’t feel men are getting robbed by having to share the financial cost.
(men’s most common health risk and expense — for middle age and above it’s heart disease, for younger men it’s car wrecks).
Pfft, don’t you know, women are supposed to bear the entire physical and financial burden of pregnancy and children.
But remember, we should be available to provide the man with sex any time he wants, and we shouldn’t be doing anything to prevent the aforementioned pregnancy.
//////
162 | FemNaziBitch Tue, Nov 5, 2013 3:43:30pm |
re: #159 HappyWarrior
For all their claims to understand economics better than liberals, I think it is often conservatives who don’t understand economics. After all these guys back the party that thinks we keep on spending and spending on defense while at the same giving tax cuts to the wealthiest part of the population or in some cases outright abolishing income tax period is sound economic theory. I love how though speaking of moral issues, it’s a moral issue to deny gay couples marriage rights but we’re not under any obligation so poor kids won’t starve or receive a quality education. It’s always the so-con issues that they talk about these value voters conventions and I’ll tell you why. IT’s not about values to them. It’s about controlling people.
Petit Bourgeoisie understand the only economics that keep their feudal lords prosperous enough to need their services.
163 | GeneJockey Tue, Nov 5, 2013 3:43:34pm |
re: #153 FemNaziBitch
I run into that as well. Everything is a moral issue.
It’s what’s so seductive about the religion of the Free Market. Belief that you’re rewarded or punished according to how hard you work etc. allows the believer to ignore the reality of privilege, not to mention its opposite as it affects those who DON’T end up well off.
The belief of all these middle class, middle aged white guys, who lucked into the best time to grow up a middle class white guy, is that they EARNED everything they have. I was talking about being fortunate, and one guy said he wasn’t fortunate AT ALL! He’d done it all himself!
But of course, it turned out his parents had paid for his college, and loaned him money for law school, and of course he had been fortunate enough to graduate into a world full of well-paying jobs for new graduates, not to mention having gone to a high school that taught him well enough to get into the school, AND that his parents had good jobs and valued education.
No, it was all him.
164 | Kragar Tue, Nov 5, 2013 3:44:07pm |
After 30+ years of tax cuts for the rich, trickle down economics and destroying unions, you would think the free market would be providing high paying jobs with a shorter work week to all Americans.
Funny how that hasn’t happened.
165 | FemNaziBitch Tue, Nov 5, 2013 3:45:12pm |
re: #163 GeneJockey
It’s what’s so seductive about the religion of the Free Market. Belief that you’re rewarded or punished according to how hard you work etc. allows the believer to ignore the reality of privilege, not to mention its opposite as it affects those who DON’T end up well off.
The belief of all these middle class, middle aged white guys, who lucked into the best time to grow up a middle class white guy, is that they EARNED everything they have. I was talking about being fortunate, and one guy said he wasn’t fortunate AT ALL! He’d done it all himself!
But of course, it turned out his parents had paid for his college, and loaned him money for law school, and of course he had been fortunate enough to graduate into a world full of well-paying jobs for new graduates, not to mention having gone to a high school that taught him well enough to get into the school, AND that his parents had good jobs and valued education.
No, it was all him.
The very people who will tell you to read I Pencil, no less.
166 | Killgore Trout Tue, Nov 5, 2013 3:45:53pm |
re: #124 Gus
Ha!
[Embedded content]
Yeah, it’s an important reminder for me. As much as I’ve changed over the years, many things are still the same.
167 | Eclectic Cyborg Tue, Nov 5, 2013 3:46:19pm |
The funny thing is women tend to live a fair bit longer than men and be healthier in their older age.
168 | klys Tue, Nov 5, 2013 3:46:53pm |
So it turns out that (a*(ab|ba)*a*)|b and (a*(aba|ba)*a*b?)|b are very, very different and only one will reject all strings with “bb” as a substring.
Fortunately I figured this out before I have to hand in the homework.
169 | FemNaziBitch Tue, Nov 5, 2013 3:47:10pm |
Dogs have been vocally petitioning for dinner since 4pm. Dinner time is 6. I think I’m worn down.
bbl
170 | Kragar Tue, Nov 5, 2013 3:47:12pm |
@emilylouize What would the British know about Guy Fawkes? Oh wait…— Kragar (@Kragar_LGF) November 5, 2013
171 | Killgore Trout Tue, Nov 5, 2013 3:47:50pm |
Any brits online? I wonder how the Brits feel about people praising Guy Fawkes on Bonfire Night which is a celebration of his execution.
172 | thedopefishlives Tue, Nov 5, 2013 3:47:52pm |
re: #168 klys
So it turns out that (a*(ab|ba)*a*)|b and (a*(aba|ba)*a*b?)|b are very, very different and only one will reject all strings with “bb” as a substring.
Fortunately I figured this out before I have to hand in the homework.
Ah, regular expressions. The quantum physics of the Computer Science universe. They’re the glue that holds everything together, and yet utterly incomprehensible.
173 | Justanotherhuman Tue, Nov 5, 2013 3:48:56pm |
Portlandia!
Raw video: Police get in scuffle with Million Mask marchers
Could anyone tell what was going on? The cops threw their bicycles down in the street…
174 | b_sharp Tue, Nov 5, 2013 3:49:24pm |
re: #77 thedopefishlives
You, me, and every other decent self-respecting individual. The conservative Christian community makes a big deal out of putting women on this pedestal, but to be honest, many of them are so sexually repressed they’re practically in Narnia.
They put women in a hole but call it a pedestal.
175 | klys Tue, Nov 5, 2013 3:49:33pm |
re: #172 thedopefishlives
Ah, regular expressions. The quantum physics of the Computer Science universe. They’re the glue that holds everything together, and yet utterly incomprehensible.
Next up: writing a regular expression for the walk with a dog on a leash of length 2 where you both have to end up in the same place.
My current favorite is “strangle the dog with the leash and call it done.”
176 | Mentis Fugit Tue, Nov 5, 2013 3:51:12pm |
re: #79 GeneJockey
An Aussie Scientist friend of mine, who works in Reproductive Endocrinology, was introducing a Kiwi friend’s talk at a conference, with the usual rundown of his CV. He said, “And at this point in his career, he confirmed certain suspicions about New Zealanders by deciding to study Ovine Reproduction.”
All I know is, it’s the Royal Australian Navy that uses the phrase, “Abandon sheep!”
Accent humour doesn’t travel to well, I fear.
177 | Kragar Tue, Nov 5, 2013 3:51:52pm |
re: #171 Killgore Trout
Any brits online? I wonder how the Brits feel about people praising Guy Fawkes on Bonfire Night which is a celebration of his execution.
The girl I was talking to was wondering why the BBC was calling the million moron march a Guy Fawkes protest.
178 | thedopefishlives Tue, Nov 5, 2013 3:51:55pm |
re: #175 klys
Next up: writing a regular expression for the walk with a dog on a leash of length 2 where you both have to end up in the same place.
My current favorite is “strangle the dog with the leash and call it done.”
When writing regular expressions, the first question you should ask is, “Do I really need a regex to solve this problem?” The answer is always no; it’s just a rhetorical device to get you to slow down and think about what the HELL kind of destruction you’re about to unleash upon the world.
179 | wrenchwench Tue, Nov 5, 2013 3:52:18pm |
180 | GeneJockey Tue, Nov 5, 2013 3:52:19pm |
re: #164 Kragar
After 30+ years of tax cuts for the rich, trickle down economics and destroying unions, you would think the free market would be providing high paying jobs with a shorter work week to all Americans.
Funny how that hasn’t happened.
Conservative Economics is like Creation Science. It starts from a conclusion and looks for evidence that supports it. Counterevidence is ignored. Failure of hypotheses to make accurate predictions is ignored. BEING FUCKING WRONG, REPEATEDLY is ignored.
This is how you can have folks like Larry Kudlow, who said in 2008, “Dude, where’s my recession” just before the bottom fell out of the economy, then predicted rampant inflation and hugely rising interest rates that have not materialized for FIVE GODDAM YEARS not only not being pointed at and ridiculed, but actually still having a paying gig talking about the economy.
181 | b_sharp Tue, Nov 5, 2013 3:52:30pm |
re: #89 FemNaziBitch
You can have a prostate or a uterus —choose.
I already have a prostate so I’ll pick a uterus/vagina pair.
182 | klys Tue, Nov 5, 2013 3:53:08pm |
re: #178 thedopefishlives
When writing regular expressions, the first question you should ask is, “Do I really need a regex to solve this problem?” The answer is always no; it’s just a rhetorical device to get you to slow down and think about what the HELL kind of destruction you’re about to unleash upon the world.
Unfortunately, the answer to that question here is: yes, because the problem requires that I write the answer as a regex.
At least they helpfully provide a nice online testing and submission tool. I have the test strings entered and it will update dynamically to show me if it will accept or reject them.
183 | Killgore Trout Tue, Nov 5, 2013 3:53:44pm |
re: #177 Kragar
The girl I was talking to was wondering why the BBC was calling the million moron march a Guy Fawkes protest.
lol
185 | Varek Raith Tue, Nov 5, 2013 3:55:30pm |
re: #171 Killgore Trout
Any brits online? I wonder how the Brits feel about people praising Guy Fawkes on Bonfire Night which is a celebration of his execution.
Same way I do.
By facepalming.
186 | thedopefishlives Tue, Nov 5, 2013 3:55:33pm |
re: #182 klys
Unfortunately, the answer to that question here is: yes, because the problem requires that I write the answer as a regex.
At least they helpfully provide a nice online testing and submission tool. I have the test strings entered and it will update dynamically to show me if it will accept or reject them.
I’ve found regular expressions incredibly useful in my day job, but mainly thanks to Visual Studio’s search-and-replace function that enables regexes. It lets me do finer-tuned search and replace than the default functionality, which is handy when the business requires a complete database table/column schema naming convention reversion but you don’t want to touch the actual class objects, only the queries.
187 | Gus Tue, Nov 5, 2013 3:55:54pm |
99-year-old photographer looks back http://t.co/VtJE88B3Jp Video by @FancyBethany— LA Times Photography (@latimesphotos) November 5, 2013
re: #184 Varek Raith
Rofl.
Called it!
It appears that @60Minutes got their Benghazi story much like Dan Rather's throbbing memo. @Green_Footballs— Gus (@Gus_802) November 1, 2013
188 | Varek Raith Tue, Nov 5, 2013 3:56:14pm |
Clearly lessons weren’t learned since they done fucked up again.
189 | klys Tue, Nov 5, 2013 3:56:48pm |
re: #186 thedopefishlives
They do seem fun.
I’m just tired of this problem set. And I have to start the next one too because I’d like to have it done by tomorrow evening. And packing. And laundry. And the dishwasher. And computer prep.
190 | Varek Raith Tue, Nov 5, 2013 3:57:34pm |
re: #189 klys
They do seem fun.
I’m just tired of this problem set. And I have to start the next one too because I’d like to have it done by tomorrow evening. And packing. And laundry. And the dishwasher. And computer prep.
Write a python script.
Problem solved.
/
191 | thedopefishlives Tue, Nov 5, 2013 3:57:55pm |
re: #189 klys
They do seem fun.
I’m just tired of this problem set. And I have to start the next one too because I’d like to have it done by tomorrow evening. And packing. And laundry. And the dishwasher. And computer prep.
It’s incredibly satisfying to write one that actually does something useful and get it right. That feeling of horror when an end user calls in with a bug and you trace it back to that incomprehensible regex and wonder where all your matches went, though, is also second to none.
192 | thedopefishlives Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:01:01pm |
Now wait just a cotton-pickin’ second here. What is this WHITE FLUFFY STUFF laying on my deck?!
193 | Kragar Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:02:57pm |
re: #190 Varek Raith
Write a python script.
Problem solved.
/
OK, he have a diner filled with Vikings, and we talk about spam.
194 | b_sharp Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:04:07pm |
re: #192 thedopefishlives
Now wait just a cotton-pickin’ second here. What is this WHITE FLUFFY STUFF laying on my deck?!
Dog hair.
195 | Kragar Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:04:22pm |
CNN Exit Polls: McAulliffe 50%, Cuccinelli 43%, Sarvis 7% (via @SamFeistCNN)— Judd Legum (@JuddLegum) November 6, 2013
196 | thedopefishlives Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:05:02pm |
197 | austin_blue Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:05:18pm |
re: #192 thedopefishlives
Now wait just a cotton-pickin’ second here. What is this WHITE FLUFFY STUFF laying on my deck?!
Angel dandruff?
Volcanic ash?
Cottonwood seeds?
198 | klys Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:05:34pm |
re: #192 thedopefishlives
Now wait just a cotton-pickin’ second here. What is this WHITE FLUFFY STUFF laying on my deck?!
Send it to me. I will do a thorough scientific inspection and report back to you.
199 | Kragar Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:06:02pm |
200 | Justanotherhuman Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:06:21pm |
201 | Mike Lamb Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:07:02pm |
re: #158 sagehen
The single most common reason for women’s usage of emergency rooms is… (drumroll)… domestic abuse. The single most common reason for women’s non-emergency medical needs is… (another drumroll)… regarding pregnancy (having one, trying to avoid one, or trying to get one).
So no, I don’t feel men are getting robbed by having to share the financial cost.
(men’s most common health risk and expense — for middle age and above it’s heart disease, for younger men it’s car wrecks).
My point was only that I would speculate that men use ER’s on a far more regular basis than woman—i.e. men use it almost as primary care—very, very expensive primary care. Women in the risk pool are subsidizing those costs. Or stated otherwise, the argument that women use health care services more therefore they should have to pay more probably isn’t borne out by the evidence or the discrepancy isn’t as large as the sensationalist Fox Snooze discussion would have it seem.
202 | thedopefishlives Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:07:10pm |
re: #197 austin_blue
Angel dandruff?
Volcanic ash?
Cottonwood seeds?
Ugh, cottonwood seeds. I had two of those bloody trees in my yard when I lived in the lakeside cabin. I hated those things, the seeds got all over my truck and were thoroughly annoying.
203 | b_sharp Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:07:18pm |
re: #196 thedopefishlives
No, hair of the dog is for something else entirely.
I use it for everything.
204 | GeneJockey Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:07:18pm |
re: #192 thedopefishlives
Now wait just a cotton-pickin’ second here. What is this WHITE FLUFFY STUFF laying on my deck?!
At my house, it would be an indicator that the male Greyhound had gotten into the bathroom trash - again! - and shredded a bunch of kleenex.
205 | GeneJockey Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:08:54pm |
re: #200 Justanotherhuman
Meringue? Whipped cream?
“…Wintrex, a substance that looks more like snow on film than actual snow.”
206 | Backwoods_Sleuth Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:09:03pm |
re: #130 FemNaziBitch
Cheaper unless you are found at fault in an accident that includes bodily unjury of the other person or death. Then you are in bad, bad shape.
Depends on who you are related to here….
/not kidding…
207 | austin_blue Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:09:17pm |
re: #202 thedopefishlives
Ugh, cottonwood seeds. I had two of those bloody trees in my yard when I lived in the lakeside cabin. I hated those things, the seeds got all over my truck and were thoroughly annoying.
They are prolific. And trust me, don’t light a clump of them on fire when they cover the yard.
208 | GeneJockey Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:09:20pm |
209 | thedopefishlives Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:09:38pm |
re: #207 austin_blue
They are prolific. And trust me, don’t light a clump of them on fire when they cover the yard.
I never thought to try, but now that I think about that, that must be highly entertaining. Also dangerous.
210 | Lidane Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:10:06pm |
211 | klys Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:10:27pm |
re: #207 austin_blue
They are prolific. And trust me, don’t light a clump of them on fire when they cover the yard.
I sense the voice of experience here.
212 | austin_blue Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:11:22pm |
re: #209 thedopefishlives
I never thought to try, but now that I think about that, that must be highly entertaining. Also dangerous.
Boy, howdy. They burn like flash paper.
213 | sagehen Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:12:17pm |
re: #192 thedopefishlives
Now wait just a cotton-pickin’ second here. What is this WHITE FLUFFY STUFF laying on my deck?!
Asbestos.
RUN!!!
214 | klys Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:12:42pm |
re: #212 austin_blue
Boy, howdy. They burn like flash paper.
I am reminded of the Mythbusters sawdust/coffee creamer cannon episode.
Oh man, good times. Surface area can make a HUGE difference in rate of combustion…
215 | Backwoods_Sleuth Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:13:15pm |
re: #140 thedopefishlives
Neither did I, maybe that’s my problem.
I have one brother…
I think Aunty Entity Dragon and I have the same brother.
sigh…
217 | b_sharp Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:13:29pm |
re: #214 klys
I am reminded of the Mythbusters sawdust/coffee creamer cannon episode.
Oh man, good times. Surface area can make a HUGE difference in rate of combustion…
That’s why I stay away from open fires.
218 | thedopefishlives Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:13:50pm |
re: #214 klys
I am reminded of the Mythbusters sawdust/coffee creamer cannon episode.
Oh man, good times. Surface area can make a HUGE difference in rate of combustion…
I remember playing that clip for a Truther who tried to contend, “Jet fuel can’t explode at sea level, therefore inside jobbity job.” He didn’t have much to say after that.
220 | klys Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:14:36pm |
re: #218 thedopefishlives
I remember playing that clip for a Truther who tried to contend, “Jet fuel can’t explode at sea level, therefore inside jobbity job.” He didn’t have much to say after that.
I won’t lie, that is one of my favorite episodes of all time.
221 | thedopefishlives Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:15:02pm |
re: #220 klys
I won’t lie, that is one of my favorite episodes of all time.
Anything that involves the Mythbusters blowing things up is one of my favorite episodes of all time. So, like, 95% of them.
222 | austin_blue Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:15:29pm |
re: #211 klys
I sense the voice of experience here.
That would be me, dancing in the back yard like a monkey on barbwire.
223 | Vicious Babushka Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:15:50pm |
re: #216 Gus
Man jumps from helicopter…
Man dies after falling hundreds of feet from helicopter flying near Newport Beach, police say http://t.co/N2peuD8xWs— NBC Los Angeles (@NBCLA) November 6, 2013
224 | Backwoods_Sleuth Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:15:56pm |
re: #150 FemNaziBitch
I think by the time a person is 40 or 50, everyone has some pre-existing condition. At the very least knee pain.
A woman has a pre-existing condition since puberty.
Just sayin’….
225 | Killgore Trout Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:16:07pm |
It’s kind of like an arms race, only different
Female cardinals: Could the Pope be about to humiliate the Church of England?
It was always assumed that the Church of England would blaze a trail for the Catholics in terms of roles for women, but as speculation mounts that the Pope may appoint the first female cardinal, Cathy Newman urges Anglicans to seize the day.
226 | GeneJockey Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:16:30pm |
re: #201 Mike Lamb
My point was only that I would speculate that men use ER’s on a far more regular basis than woman—i.e. men use it almost as primary care—very, very expensive primary care. Women in the risk pool are subsidizing those costs. Or stated otherwise, the argument that women use health care services more therefore they should have to pay more probably isn’t borne out by the evidence or the discrepancy isn’t as large as the sensationalist Fox Snooze discussion would have it seem.
The only study I could find says women use the ER more than men do. That was a 1991 study. I was surprised not to find anything more recent, even in Related Articles.
EDIT - found several newer studies. They say more women use the ER than man. Not by a lot, but consistently.
227 | klys Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:16:30pm |
re: #221 thedopefishlives
Anything that involves the Mythbusters blowing things up is one of my favorite episodes of all time. So, like, 95% of them.
Have you gotten the chance to see their live stage show? Well worth it if they are in your area.
I have phone photos from the front row somewhere… (I am that dork.)
228 | thedopefishlives Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:16:35pm |
re: #221 thedopefishlives
On a more serious related note, my dad used to work in the processed food industry. He had a co-worker who was in a wheat processing plant when a flour dust explosion occurred. It drove a piece of debris through a thick glass window in the control room, narrowly missing spearing someone in the head.
229 | thedopefishlives Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:17:15pm |
re: #227 klys
Have you gotten the chance to see their live stage show? Well worth it if they are in your area.
I have phone photos from the front row somewhere… (I am that dork.)
I have not, but meeting Jamie and Adam is most definitely on my bucket list.
230 | klys Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:17:59pm |
re: #228 thedopefishlives
On a more serious related note, my dad used to work in the processed food industry. He had a co-worker who was in a wheat processing plant when a flour dust explosion occurred. It drove a piece of debris through a thick glass window in the control room, narrowly missing spearing someone in the head.
Grain silos, too. Folks who work in those will frequently have special tools which are less prone to causing sparks. (I believe these were the same tools we had for working near the magnet, since they were non-magnetic.)
231 | austin_blue Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:18:49pm |
re: #225 Killgore Trout
It’s kind of like an arms race, only different
Female cardinals: Could the Pope be about to humiliate the Church of England?
Huh. Can you be elevated to the College w/out being ordained?
This isn’t like Nero and his horse, after all. This is the RCC.
(Disclaimer: I’m a retired mackerel snapper.)
232 | calochortus Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:20:49pm |
re: #231 austin_blue
Huh. Can you be elevated to the College w/out being ordained?
This isn’t like Nero and his horse, after all. This is the RCC.
(Disclaimer: I’m a retired mackerel snapper.)
Apparently you can-at least theoretically.
233 | Decatur Deb Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:20:58pm |
re: #230 klys
Grain silos, too. Folks who work in those will frequently have special tools which are less prone to causing sparks. (I believe these were the same tools we had for working near the magnet, since they were non-magnetic.)
Berylium-Copper. I still have a screwdriver that was used in Class I explosives areas. Won’t spark, but can cause toxic wounds, and cancer if grinding fines are inhaled.
234 | Decatur Deb Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:21:42pm |
re: #232 calochortus
Apparently you can-at least theoretically.
Yes—but you can’t be Pope (Bishop of Rome).
235 | GeneJockey Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:22:00pm |
re: #221 thedopefishlives
Anything that involves the Mythbusters blowing things up is one of my favorite episodes of all time. So, like, 95% of them.
I love the slo-mo videos, where you can see the distortion from the shockwave spreading from a really big explosion, like the dump truck full of C4.
236 | klys Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:22:29pm |
re: #233 Decatur Deb
Berylium-Copper. I still have a screwdriver that was used in Class I explosives areas. Won’t spark, but can cause toxic wounds, and cancer if grinding fines are inhaled.
Given my salary as a grad student, I would have opted for watching my fingers and toes and breathing instead of accidentally getting a screwdriver stuck to the 600MHz.
237 | calochortus Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:22:41pm |
re: #234 Decatur Deb
Yes—but you can’t be Pope (Bishop of Rome).
It might be interesting if you could…
238 | Lidane Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:23:13pm |
re: #225 Killgore Trout
It’s kind of like an arms race, only different
Female cardinals: Could the Pope be about to humiliate the Church of England?
You’re delusional if you think that’s going to happen. For all his outreach, Pope Francis isn’t that much of a liberal. Case in point:
Pope Francis Excommunicates Priest Who Backed Women’s Ordination and Gays
239 | Killgore Trout Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:23:24pm |
re: #231 austin_blue
Huh. Can you be elevated to the College w/out being ordained?
This isn’t like Nero and his horse, after all. This is the RCC.
(Disclaimer: I’m a retired mackerel snapper.)
I don’t get it either, I looked around for the source of the rumor or an explanation of hot this might work but didn’t find much. Maybe it’s a trial balloon testing reaction or something. But I suppose if he can manage to get a female cardinal then female priests would be a foregone conclusion.
240 | thedopefishlives Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:23:51pm |
re: #235 GeneJockey
I love the slo-mo videos, where you can see the distortion from the shockwave spreading from a really big explosion, like the dump truck full of C4.
One of my favorite slo-mo shots is the RPG fired through the tin trailer. A lot of people don’t realize how directional shaped charges really are.
241 | klys Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:24:05pm |
re: #235 GeneJockey
I love the slo-mo videos, where you can see the distortion from the shockwave spreading from a really big explosion, like the dump truck full of C4.
Actually, the dump truck is one of the few they don’t have high speed video for, because it failed.
On the fusing metal (final iteration of compact-compact) episode (first appearance of the rocket sled!) they have a beautiful shockwave caught on high speed, though, where you can see the shadow of the shockwave on the ground as it advances.
/Mythbusters trivia
242 | ObserverArt Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:24:23pm |
re: #35 The Ghost of a Flea
Funny how the Bible only comes into play when it’s about fucking.
Poor people? Nope.
Sympathy for the suffering? Nope.
Forgiveness of trespasses? Nope.Fuck this guy.
Forgiveness of debts? Nope.
Ah, the ol’ pocket Jesus. You whip him out when needed, and keep him stowed away when you want to ignore him. 1-2-3 Easy Christianity.
243 | Killgore Trout Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:24:24pm |
re: #232 calochortus
Apparently you can-at least theoretically.
ah, thanks. Just what I was looking for. Interesting possibility.
244 | Decatur Deb Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:25:45pm |
re: #239 Killgore Trout
I don’t get it either, I looked around for the source of the rumor or an explanation of hot this might work but didn’t find much. Maybe it’s a trial balloon testing reaction or something. But I suppose if he can manage to get a female cardinal then female priests would be a foregone conclusion.
Reads as a backhand to the Anglicans. There was a very good Inspector Morse that revolved about women priests and…Murder.
245 | Backwoods_Sleuth Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:25:52pm |
re: #192 thedopefishlives
Now wait just a cotton-pickin’ second here. What is this WHITE FLUFFY STUFF laying on my deck?!
time to fire up the blower!
246 | thedopefishlives Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:26:15pm |
re: #245 Backwoods_Sleuth
time to fire up the blower!
I fueled, oiled, and aired it all up yesterday. It’s go time.
247 | GeneJockey Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:26:28pm |
re: #241 klys
Actually, the dump truck is one of the few they don’t have high speed video for, because it failed.
On the fusing metal (final iteration of compact-compact) episode (first appearance of the rocket sled!) they have a beautiful shockwave caught on high speed, though, where you can see the shadow of the shockwave on the ground as it advances.
/Mythbusters trivia
Oh, yeah? Well I met Tory and Grant at Imbert and Smithers in San Carlos, and even got to shake Tory’s hand and completely mess up my compliment by telling him we watched every THURSDAY, even though Mythbusters was on on WEDNESDAY. So there!
////////////////////
248 | austin_blue Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:26:49pm |
re: #232 calochortus
Apparently you can-at least theoretically.
Well, theoretically, that lottery ticket I bought means I’m a millionaire, but I doubt if it’ll get me a bank loan.
249 | klys Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:27:28pm |
re: #247 GeneJockey
Oh, yeah? Well I met Tory and Grant at Imbert and Smithers in San Carlos, and even got to shake Tory’s hand and completely mess up my compliment by telling him we watched every THURSDAY, even though Mythbusters was on on WEDNESDAY. So there!
////////////////////
You are one up on me. :)
I haven’t gotten to meet any of them in person. Just watch the episodes over and over and over again for background noise.
250 | Decatur Deb Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:28:28pm |
re: #247 GeneJockey
Oh, yeah? Well I met Tory and Grant at Imbert and Smithers in San Carlos, and even got to shake Tory’s hand and completely mess up my compliment by telling him we watched every THURSDAY, even though Mythbusters was on on WEDNESDAY. So there!
////////////////////
I (and 200,000 others) were part of their seismic experiment at the Stewart/Colbert Sanity rally. We jumped in ‘unison’.
251 | Backwoods_Sleuth Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:28:52pm |
re: #246 thedopefishlives
I fueled, oiled, and aired it all up yesterday. It’s go time.
I knew that…you go!
252 | calochortus Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:29:33pm |
The Freepers haz a sad over the likely outcome of the VA gubernatorial race.
The RATs made this election about birth control and abortion. They used the same playbook used in Missouri and Indiana last year …
Hmmm, there might be a clue in there somewhere…
And
As sickening as it sounds but women love abortion..I will never understand it but its true..women love to murder their unborn babies..when you have women in Texas cheering “Hail Satan” for Wendy Davis, it pretty much defines who they are
I’m sorry I missed my opportunity to get pregnant just so I could go get an abortion when I was of childbearing age. Damn.
/
253 | GeneJockey Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:29:45pm |
re: #249 klys
You are one up on me. :)
I haven’t gotten to meet any of them in person. Just watch the episodes over and over and over again for background noise.
It was entirely by chance. I can’t even remember what it was I went there for. It took me a moment to figure out what was going on, because for some reason my mind didn’t tell me at first that these were the guys I saw on TV all the time. It’s not like they look any different in real life.
254 | Kragar Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:30:38pm |
Meanwhile, in Drudge-land pic.twitter.com/tRBhyj1Gzf— Judd Legum (@JuddLegum) November 6, 2013
255 | AlexRogan Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:31:01pm |
re: #218 thedopefishlives
I remember playing that clip for a Truther who tried to contend, “Jet fuel can’t explode at sea level, therefore inside jobbity job.” He didn’t have much to say after that.
Best thing to know about most flammable liquids: liquid burns, vapor explodes.
256 | Decatur Deb Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:31:20pm |
re: #252 calochortus
The Freepers haz a sad over the likely outcome of the VA gubernatorial race.
Hmmm, there might be a clue in there somewhere…
AndI’m sorry I missed my opportunity to get pregnant just so I could go get an abortion when I was of childbearing age. Damn.
/
(Gathers his liberal lachrymatory, heads for Feep.)
257 | calochortus Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:31:22pm |
258 | Backwoods_Sleuth Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:31:35pm |
re: #171 Killgore Trout
Any brits online? I wonder how the Brits feel about people praising Guy Fawkes on Bonfire Night which is a celebration of his execution.
ummm…it’s cold, we haz adult beverages, let’s build a huge freakin’ bonfire!
Disclaimer: I have actually been in Britain for Guy Fawkes night bonfire festivities…and strangely, I do remember it…but those cheesy masks were not part of the celebrations.
259 | Targetpractice Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:31:43pm |
260 | Varek Raith Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:32:57pm |
Election results so far.
nbcwashington.com
261 | GeneJockey Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:33:43pm |
re: #257 calochortus
*less than one percent of the vote.
HEY!! HOW DID CUCCINELLI LOSE!?!? HE STARTED OUT WITH 52.85 OF THE VOTE, BUT THEN THEY CHANGED IT!!! ACORN!!!!
262 | thedopefishlives Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:33:46pm |
I don’t want to trust too much to exit polling. Let’s see how the results start rolling in.
263 | GeneJockey Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:34:10pm |
re: #259 Targetpractice
Well, it’s over, might as well start drinking now.
///
Guess I picked the wrong week to give up sniffing glue.
264 | Vicious Babushka Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:34:50pm |
265 | ObserverArt Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:34:57pm |
re: #50 thedopefishlives
It’s a man-centric idea, naturally. It’s funny how many stupid ideas turn out to be that way.
Blame bad old 70s ‘n’ 80s porn movies. There is nothing subtle in any of ‘em. Subtle doesn’t come across, no action…and they are moving pictures, so ‘banging’ translates as you can see it. And since that is where many guys learned anything or were told form others how it was done, it becomes the way. Same with the sound track…
266 | thedopefishlives Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:36:05pm |
re: #265 ObserverArt
Blame bad old 70s ‘n’ 80s porn movies. There is nothing subtle in any of ‘em. Subtle doesn’t come across, no action…and they are moving pictures, so ‘banging’ translates as you can see it. And since that is where many guys learned anything or were told form others how it was done, it becomes the way. Same with the sound track…
Fun fact I learned from Cracked: Pornography is not exactly pleasurable for the partners involved. Poses and actions are chosen specifically to look hot on camera, not because they’re that good as actual sex moves.
267 | Eclectic Cyborg Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:36:10pm |
re: #265 ObserverArt
Blame bad old 70s ‘n’ 80s porn movies. There is nothing subtle in any of ‘em. Subtle doesn’t come across, no action…and they are moving pictures, so ‘banging’ translates as you can see it. And since that is where many guys learned anything or were told form others how it was done, it becomes the way. Same with the sound track…
Bomp chicka bomp bomp
268 | Vicious Babushka Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:36:25pm |
As I pointed out on election night '12. Rural counties always report 1st (easy to count) & then liberal large cities & counties come last— Jeff Gauvin (@JeffersonObama) November 6, 2013
269 | Targetpractice Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:36:50pm |
270 | austin_blue Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:37:08pm |
re: #255 AlexRogan
Best thing to know about most flammable liquids: liquid burns, vapor explodes.
And jet fuel (either diesel or napthalene based), goes from liquid -> vapor at between 85 to 93 degrees, based on humidity and pressure. At 8o degrees, you can throw lit matches into a pail of diesel all day and waste matches.
The exception is a high-speed impact that atomizes the fuel like…oh, wait.
271 | Eclectic Cyborg Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:37:12pm |
Anyone have a link to the Alabama results?
272 | GeneJockey Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:37:12pm |
re: #266 thedopefishlives
Fun fact I learned from Cracked: Pornography is not exactly pleasurable for the partners involved. Poses and actions are chosen specifically to look hot on camera, not because they’re that good as actual sex moves.
Wait, you mean women DON’T like having one foot on the floor and the other way, way up on a desk or something?
//
273 | calochortus Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:37:26pm |
re: #262 thedopefishlives
I don’t want to trust too much to exit polling. Let’s see how the results start rolling in.
Always a wise choice.
274 | Eclectic Cyborg Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:38:42pm |
re: #266 thedopefishlives
Fun fact I learned from Cracked: Pornography is not exactly pleasurable for the partners involved. Poses and actions are chosen specifically to look hot on camera, not because they’re that good as actual sex moves.
There’s a book my wife gave me shortly after we got married called “She comes first”. As you might guess, it’s about pleasing your lady. One of the big, big points the book makes is that the first rule to properly pleasuring your lady is to completely forget EVERYTHING you’ve seen in porn.
275 | Kragar Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:38:43pm |
re: #266 thedopefishlives
Fun fact I learned from Cracked: Pornography is not exactly pleasurable for the partners involved. Poses and actions are chosen specifically to look hot on camera, not because they’re that good as actual sex moves.
Fun fact: Some of the funniest bloopers you will ever see in your life come from pornos.
Girl in 6” high heels: “WHO THE FUCK WAXED THESE GOD DAMN FLOORS?”
276 | calochortus Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:38:44pm |
re: #272 GeneJockey
Wait, you mean women DON’T like having one foot on the floor and the other way, way up on a desk or something?
//
Who said this wasn’t an educational website?
277 | Backwoods_Sleuth Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:39:08pm |
re: #272 GeneJockey
Wait, you mean women DON’T like having one foot on the floor and the other way, way up on a
deskkitchen stove/sink or something?
//
FIFY
278 | HappyWarrior Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:39:43pm |
re: #269 Targetpractice
Lightly populated counties sounding off first for Cucci. Shocker.///
Yeah no one saw that one coming.
279 | ObserverArt Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:40:26pm |
re: #60 FemNaziBitch
You know last month, after nearly 10 years together, LGBT friends of mine got married.
My life hasn’t been affected one bit.
I beg to differ!
You would never have gotten to write that and know it is a good thing. A positive effect.
280 | HappyWarrior Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:41:43pm |
re: #252 calochortus
The Freepers haz a sad over the likely outcome of the VA gubernatorial race.
Hmmm, there might be a clue in there somewhere…
AndI’m sorry I missed my opportunity to get pregnant just so I could go get an abortion when I was of childbearing age. Damn.
/
And that’s not the TP’s fault at all.//
281 | Decatur Deb Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:42:00pm |
282 | austin_blue Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:42:22pm |
re: #279 ObserverArt
I beg to differ!
You would never have gotten to write that and know it is a good thing. A positive effect.
Updinged and QFT.
Damn good point.
283 | Kragar Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:43:15pm |
Another classic:
“YOU LIKE THAT?! YOU LIKE THAT?!”
“Steve, you’re fucking a pillow.”
“… Oh.”
284 | calochortus Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:43:47pm |
re: #280 HappyWarrior
And that’s not the TP’s fault at all.//
Only in that they weren’t paying enough attention and have a candidate who isn’t conservative enough.
285 | Eclectic Cyborg Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:45:21pm |
re: #281 Decatur Deb
Yes. Things suck here.
Do you mind sharing? Google seems to be letting me down tonight.
286 | Dr Lizardo Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:45:24pm |
re: #265 ObserverArt
Blame bad old 70s ‘n’ 80s porn movies. There is nothing subtle in any of ‘em. Subtle doesn’t come across, no action…and they are moving pictures, so ‘banging’ translates as you can see it. And since that is where many guys learned anything or were told form others how it was done, it becomes the way. Same with the sound track…
Ah, the “Golden Age of Porn”.
Now I’ll have to watch “Boogie Nights” again.
287 | William Barnett-Lewis Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:45:27pm |
Hey, DF? You want to read this post at a photo web site I frequent…
288 | Kragar Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:45:48pm |
@LOLGOP This is a cause I can really get behind.— Kragar (@Kragar_LGF) November 6, 2013
289 | Decatur Deb Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:46:24pm |
re: #285 Eclectic Cyborg
Do you mind sharing? Google seems to be letting me down tonight.
Oh.. You mean the election? Polls aren’t closed yet.
290 | Targetpractice Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:46:33pm |
Quick everybody, look surprised:
Gubernatorial Race Too Close To Call As Polls Close In Virginia
Polls in Virginia have closed, but NBC News and CNN both say the gubernatorial race between Democrat Terry McAuliffe and Republican state Attorney General Ken Cuccinelli is still too close to call.
292 | HappyWarrior Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:47:21pm |
Michael Steele’s a revisionist liar. Claiming they never attacked Obama as a person when he was RNC chair. I am glad he called Preibus however as a hypocritical douche.
293 | Vicious Babushka Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:47:50pm |
294 | Mike Lamb Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:48:40pm |
re: #226 GeneJockey
The only study I could find says women use the ER more than men do. That was a 1991 study. I was surprised not to find anything more recent, even in Related Articles.
EDIT - found several newer studies. They say more women use the ER than man. Not by a lot, but consistently.
That’s really surprising to me.
295 | Vicious Babushka Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:48:50pm |
In every election, conservative rural counties with small amount of voters report first. The numbers will swing in 30-40 minutes. #VAGOV— Jeff Gauvin (@JeffersonObama) November 6, 2013
296 | HappyWarrior Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:52:44pm |
297 | HappyWarrior Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:56:09pm |
I hope McAuliffe wins with over 50% of the vote so we won’t have to hear the likely excuse that Sarvis took votes away from Cucci. I believe that he did take away more from Cucci than McAuliffe but that does ignore that there were plenty of Democratic protest votes for Sarvis too.
298 | calochortus Tue, Nov 5, 2013 4:59:40pm |
The Freepers are turning to prayer, so liberals may as well give up. Of course, they’re also claiming there will be voter fraud, so maybe prayer won’t be enough against the forces of evil.
Interestingly, a few people are pointing out that conservative policies aren’t popular, but of course this only means ‘those people’ shouldn’t be voting.
299 | HappyWarrior Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:00:46pm |
re: #298 calochortus
The Freepers are turning to prayer, so liberals may as well give up. Of course, they’re also claiming there will be voter fraud, so maybe prayer won’t be enough against the forces of evil.
Interestingly, a few people are pointing out that conservative policies aren’t popular, but of course this only means ‘those people’ shouldn’t be voting.
Of course, voter fraud. Funny how that’s a problem in Virginia where Republicans have more control on the local leevl but not New Jersey where Dems do but yet the Republicans are winning the more blue Jersey and Democrats teh more historically red Republican.
300 | Backwoods_Sleuth Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:02:26pm |
re: #294 Mike Lamb
That’s really surprising to me.
Could be that women are more often victims of domestic abuse.
Also to consider, women as primary caregivers are more likely to bring their children to the ER.
And I really hate to generalize, but it’s been my experience that men won’t go to the ER unless they are dying (or think they are). But most of my experience is with farmers who, if a finger gets severed during harvest/haying, will keep working until the work is done, all the while saying “it’s just a scratch…”
301 | Backwoods_Sleuth Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:05:19pm |
re: #298 calochortus
The Freepers are turning to prayer, so liberals may as well give up. Of course, they’re also claiming there will be voter fraud, so maybe prayer won’t be enough against the forces of evil.
Interestingly, a few people are pointing out that conservative policies aren’t popular, but of course this only means ‘those people’ shouldn’t be voting.
Prayer worked out so well for them in 2012…
302 | calochortus Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:05:35pm |
re: #299 HappyWarrior
Of course, voter fraud. Funny how that’s a problem in Virginia where Republicans have more control on the local leevl but not New Jersey where Dems do but yet the Republicans are winning the more blue Jersey and Democrats teh more historically red Republican.
Yeah, I know-I think the significant part is that some folks seem to realize that theirs is not actually the majority position, especially on social issues. Not that they think they are wrong, but they aren’t blaming rampant fraud for the results.
303 | Skip Intro Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:06:15pm |
Hmm. Nearly a third of the votes are in and cooch is winning pretty big. The nutjob running for Lt. Gov. is in a much tighter race.
304 | blueraven Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:06:20pm |
re: #294 Mike Lamb
That’s really surprising to me.
I wouldn’t doubt that the difference is pregnancy related.
305 | Varek Raith Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:06:48pm |
re: #303 Skip Intro
Hmm. Nearly a third of the votes are in and cooch is winning pretty big. The nutjob running for Lt. Gov. is in a much tighter race.
Notice something?
;)
306 | Dark_Falcon Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:07:05pm |
re: #300 Backwoods_Sleuth
Could be that women are more often victims of domestic abuse.
Also to consider, women as primary caregivers are more likely to bring their children to the ER.
And I really hate to generalize, but it’s been my experience that men won’t go to the ER unless they are dying (or think they are). But most of my experience is with farmers who, if a finger gets severed during harvest/haying, will keep working until the work is done, all the while saying “it’s just a scratch…”
It’s not just you. Men in general are much less willing to seek medical help, fearing to be seen as unmanly.
307 | HappyWarrior Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:07:07pm |
re: #303 Skip Intro
Hmm. Nearly a third of the votes are in and cooch is winning pretty big. The nutjob running for Lt. Gov. is in a much tighter race.
Look where’ they’re coming from.
nytimes.com
309 | calochortus Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:08:16pm |
re: #304 blueraven
I wouldn’t doubt that the difference is pregnancy related.
Plus, in addition to going in for routine stuff, women usually have to make a separate appointment for pap smears, mammograms, and what not.
310 | Skip Intro Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:08:47pm |
re: #307 HappyWarrior
Look where’ they’re coming from.
nytimes.com
Sorry, I don’t know Virginia at all.
311 | austin_blue Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:08:50pm |
re: #294 Mike Lamb
That’s really surprising to me.
Men don’t go to see a doctor until something is broken, falling off, or pumping a lot of blood. We don’t generally get bladder infections, beat up, or pelvic exams. Women are much more prone to debilitating migraines. Guys suck it up, often to their detriment. Women don’t. They are smarter than we are.
312 | Varek Raith Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:08:59pm |
re: #307 HappyWarrior
Look where’ they’re coming from.
nytimes.com
The same during the 2012 race. Romney was ahead for a long time and then bam! NoVa and Norfolk city started results started coming in.
313 | HappyWarrior Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:09:39pm |
re: #310 Skip Intro
Sorry, I don’t know Virginia at all.
Sorry. These are the more small and rural counties. Fairfax County, Arlington County, Alexandria, Richmond, and the Southeast hasn’t come out yet.
314 | Varek Raith Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:09:40pm |
re: #310 Skip Intro
Sorry, I don’t know Virginia at all.
Ok.
The majority of precincts reported so far are Republican.
315 | ObserverArt Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:09:58pm |
re: #112 goddamnedfrank
Yep, the pigments in paint are carried by a solvent, and I very much doubt that the people making Guy Fawkes masks are using water base. Dudebros don’t want their masks running in the rain. When the paint dries the solvent doesn’t just magically disappear, if it’s VOC based it has to be captured in giant charcoal hvac filters and disposed of properly or it just floats outside where it causes all kinds of environmental problems.
Frank, just wanted to point out, some auto body shops in America will be soon or are already using water based acrylic enamels. Low pressure application, runs together for a nice wet-blended finish, etc. and when dry is as tough and water proof as enamel as we knew it.
And in that same line, I have a century old house I am s-l-o-w-l-y restoring and the new 25-year latex exterior paint, while hard to work with, is some tough stuff. Last year I did an area, and then discovered I had an area to re-repair and needed to strip the paint that had only dried a few days earlier and it was a bitch to scrape, sand or heat gun it off. It doesn’t chalk, is hard to scratch, etc.
Better living through chemistry.
316 | HappyWarrior Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:09:59pm |
re: #312 Varek Raith
The same during the 2012 race. Romney was ahead for a long time and then bam! NoVa and Norfolk city started results started coming in.
Yep, it’s been like this ever since I started following politics.
317 | Varek Raith Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:11:05pm |
What’s really troubling for Ken is the numbers Sarvis has so far.
Ouch.
318 | HappyWarrior Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:11:22pm |
I hope Obensham loses too. He’s just as right wing as Cucci and Jackson are. Just not as nasty a person.
319 | Skip Intro Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:12:01pm |
re: #313 HappyWarrior
Sorry. These are the more small and rural counties. Fairfax County, Arlington County, Alexandria, Richmond, and the Southeast hasn’t come out yet.
How come Southampton isn’t connected to Northampton?
320 | HappyWarrior Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:12:29pm |
321 | jaunte Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:12:42pm |
“The homosexual movement is a cancer attacking vital organs of faith, family & military -repositories of traditional values”#EWJackson #VOTE
— Caitlin Bancroft (@CaitBanc) November 5, 2013
Crackpot freakshow liar douchecanoe #EWJackson has lost in Virginia. Heh.
— JoeMyGod (@JoeMyGod) November 6, 2013
322 | Targetpractice Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:12:44pm |
Sarvis’ take is down 3 points since l checked at 20% reporting, but that’s still far ahead of where the “unskewed” crowd said he’d be before the whole thing ended. He’s gotta lose another 5% and all of that going to Cucci in order to beat the pre-election polls.
323 | lawhawk Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:12:45pm |
Well, with 0% reporting, everyone's called NJ for .@GovChristie. Congrats Gov! Next up? .@deBlasioNYC to win by huge margin in NYC.— lawhawk (@lawhawk) November 6, 2013
324 | Varek Raith Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:13:14pm |
325 | HappyWarrior Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:13:16pm |
re: #321 jaunte
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And this is why E.W Jackson will never be elected to anything ever.
326 | jaunte Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:14:07pm |
re: #325 HappyWarrior
He might have a shot at the Texas State Board of Education.
327 | Varek Raith Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:14:49pm |
re: #326 jaunte
He might have a shot at the Texas State Board of Education.
I dunno, the man is fantastic at pissing off everyone.
328 | HappyWarrior Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:15:27pm |
re: #326 jaunte
He might have a shot at the Texas State Board of Education.
I don’t know. He may be too nuts for David Barton even. Not sure if //.
329 | Backwoods_Sleuth Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:15:41pm |
good one Joanne!
RT @nickprice91 $50 to the Virginia newspaper that uses “Ken Cuccinelli Goes Down” as a headline #VAGov
— MsJoanne (@MsJoanne) November 6, 2013
330 | lawhawk Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:16:01pm |
And Illinois is about to legalize SSM. There’s some technicalities that have to be addressed by the legislature over effective dates, but Gov. Quinn indicated he’d sign it.
It’s a wave. A wave that keeps growing across the country, and the GOP isn’t liking this one bit as their social agenda is showing signs of necrosis. So, they’re pushing back, and they’re doing it on the one area they think they have advantages - abortion and womens’ rights.
332 | wrenchwench Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:18:11pm |
re: #330 lawhawk
And Illinois is about to legalize SSM. There’s some technicalities that have to be addressed by the legislature over effective dates, but Gov. Quinn indicated he’d sign it.
It’s a wave. A wave that keeps growing across the country, and the GOP isn’t liking this one bit as their social agenda is showing signs of necrosis. So, they’re pushing back, and they’re doing it on the one area they think they have advantages - abortion and womens’ rights.
Which is another indication they have no idea what ‘demographics’ are. Only 10-12% of the population is gay, but 51% are female.
Maybe they think demographics are for Democrats. Which I guess they are, now.
334 | HappyWarrior Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:19:27pm |
re: #331 Varek Raith
Sarvis at 7% with 36% in.
I predicted he’d get 8. I think more closer to 6-6.5% by the end of the night. I thought it was pretty telling that Luap Nor endorsed Cucci and not Sarvice but then again I am actually not shocked given I know Luap Nor is on board with the so-con agenda as seen by his endorsements of Baldwin for president in 2008 and now Cucci for governor.
335 | Varek Raith Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:21:21pm |
Virginia 2012 election results. Some perspective.
Image: Virginia_Presidential_Election_Results_by_County_2012.png
336 | ObserverArt Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:23:20pm |
re: #129 FemNaziBitch
I think many men fear every situation. I don’t get it entirely yet. There seems to be some underlying male code that is basically the “elephant in the living room”. Homophobia and what not.
I think it is a combination of fear of being seen as too sensitive, admitting being afraid and appearances of being a man, whatever that happens to be at the time, especially if their is a group-think-look going on.
And that also seems to figure into how some women seem to want the bad-boy-manly-man and even accept his bad behavior if he happens to abuse them.
Shit be real complicated. I know one thing, this type of conversation makes people of both sexes uneasy if it gets down into the nitty-gritty and starts going into directions or corners people don’t want to admit about themselves.
And there is the real problem, many people just never sit down and figure themselves out as it likely scares them if the get too deep. The proverbial keeping your emotions bottled up.
337 | jamesfirecat Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:23:22pm |
re: #335 Varek Raith
Virginia 2012 election results. Some perspective.
Image: Virginia_Presidential_Election_Results_by_County_2012.png
So you’re saying it’s not time to panic yet?
338 | Varek Raith Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:23:46pm |
339 | Varek Raith Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:24:07pm |
340 | dog philosopher Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:25:01pm |
341 | GeneJockey Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:25:48pm |
I keep making the mistake of checking the liveblog thread at Dkos. There’s always panic as the rural precincts report in deeply red, every goddam time. Not good for my blood pressure!
342 | jaunte Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:26:24pm |
re: #341 GeneJockey
People forget how many people live in the cities.
343 | Varek Raith Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:26:37pm |
344 | lawhawk Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:26:43pm |
Cuccinelli staffer: “It’s not looking great” http://t.co/EpEvDnrLP8 #VAGov— Washington Post (@washingtonpost) November 6, 2013
Cuccinelli 50.3%, McAuliffe 42.5%, Sarvis 7.2% with 38.7% reporting for Va. governor race http://t.co/9Q5XkKnlgb #VAGov
— POLITICO (@politico) November 6, 2013
The areas already tallied were the GOP strongholds. Democrat strongholds have yet to report, which means it’s looking bad for Cuccinelli.
345 | calochortus Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:27:02pm |
re: #342 jaunte
People forget how many people live in the cities.
I thought it was acreage that got to vote?
/
346 | dog philosopher Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:27:10pm |
347 | Skip Intro Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:27:14pm |
Meanwhile, in the race for the comeback of the year, there are no results in yet for the Schuylkill County Sheriff election.
348 | HappyWarrior Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:27:19pm |
re: #344 lawhawk
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The areas already tallied were the GOP strongholds. Democrat strongholds have yet to report, which means it’s looking bad for Cuccinelli.
Giggity.
350 | Skip Intro Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:28:27pm |
re: #344 lawhawk
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The areas already tallied were the GOP strongholds. Democrat strongholds have yet to report, which means it’s looking bad for Cuccinelli.
Do they really have to count the Democratic strongholds?
351 | HappyWarrior Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:28:57pm |
re: #349 jaunte
Look at how red this map is!!!
I’ve actually seen RWNJs try to argue that the fact they win smaller counties means they’ better represent the state. Uh no guys.
352 | missliberties Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:28:59pm |
This is making me crazy. Cooch can’t win. No NO NO. And yes I am panicing.
As I recall Virginia was a late call for Obama, because the D counties get voted last?
353 | GeneJockey Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:29:08pm |
re: #342 jaunte
People forget how many people live in the cities.
That’s because they’re not the REAL Americans.
354 | jaunte Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:29:10pm |
Is being too drunk to remember smoking crack an explanation you would accept from your mayor? #AC360 8pm
— Anderson Cooper (@andersoncooper) November 6, 2013
355 | Varek Raith Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:29:11pm |
Basically, most of the Dem enclaves in Va haven’t had their numbers reported yet. And if they did, it’s a small amount.
356 | HappyWarrior Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:29:23pm |
re: #352 missliberties
This is making me crazy. Cooch can’t win. No NO NO. And yes I am panicing.
As I recall Virginia was a late call for Obama, because the D counties get voted last?
Don’t panic.
357 | ObserverArt Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:30:07pm |
re: #157 b_sharp
Is that what you’ve been told?
Do the female members use the term ‘measure up?’
/////
Damn this thread is flying…I’ll never catch up!
: )
358 | HappyWarrior Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:30:26pm |
re: #353 GeneJockey
That’s because they’re not the REAL Americans.
Which is hilarious given that America has been a predominately urban nation since 1900 I believe. When I hear people bitch about the cities and more liberal suburbs, I hear someone who can’t deal with the fact that America’s not the lily white Protestant country it once was.
359 | Varek Raith Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:30:27pm |
360 | Vicious Babushka Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:30:53pm |
361 | HappyWarrior Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:31:10pm |
re: #359 Varek Raith
QFT.
Trust us Not Real Virginians.
;)
Heh, I’m really interested in seeing how the delegate race turns out here. Costello-Daniel ran a great race. Very positive.
362 | GeneJockey Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:31:35pm |
Sometimes, even experienced election watchers mistake the percent ot precincts reporting for the percent of votes counted. So people might thing 30% of the votes are in when it’s 30% of precincts.
363 | Mentis Fugit Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:31:58pm |
re: #341 GeneJockey
I keep making the mistake of checking the liveblog thread at Dkos. There’s always panic as the rural precincts report in deeply red, every goddam time. Not good for my blood pressure!
By the same token, as urban results come in and the pendulum swings from red to blue, freeps start howling about voter fraud, no?
364 | lawhawk Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:32:13pm |
re: #354 jaunte
When that fails, always try “Bitch set me up!” Or, “I’m Rick James, Bitch.” Both have worked out pretty good in the long term. /
365 | calochortus Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:32:21pm |
I’ve seen it seriously suggested that the urban areas report later than the rural counties because the liberals hold back the vote totals until they know how many votes they need to fake to win.
366 | HappyWarrior Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:32:45pm |
re: #363 Mentis Fugit
By the same token, as urban results come in and the pendulum swings from red to blue, freeps start howling about voter fraud, no?
Of course because voter fraud only happens in cities.//
367 | calochortus Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:33:21pm |
re: #366 HappyWarrior
Well, only liberals engage in voter fraud so…
/
368 | Targetpractice Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:33:21pm |
We all know how it goes, if Cucci wins by less than 1%, it’s a “mandate” and a referendum on the ACA and a stunning loss for Democrats. If McAuliffe wins by 5% or better, there’s no “mandate,” this doesn’t really count as a referendum, and Democrats totally cheated to win.
369 | Vicious Babushka Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:33:35pm |
re: #365 calochortus
I’ve seen it seriously suggested that the urban areas report later than the rural counties because the liberals hold back the vote totals until they know how many votes they need to fake to win.
Does anyone really believe Obama's Chicago-vote-fraud machine will allow a #Cuccinelli win? Let's pray the #Cooch lead counters the fraud!— Matt Barber (@jmattbarber) November 6, 2013
372 | jamesfirecat Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:33:41pm |
re: #346 dog philosopher
I used to have a horrible habit of sucking on the index finger of my left hand up through high school, what finally broke it was when I/my folks convinced me the most recent time I got sick was due to me doing it so I stopped doing it.
This is also why I am now super cautious about eating pizza that has not been either in a refrigerator or under a heat lamp for any major length of time.
373 | jaunte Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:34:35pm |
re: #369 Vicious Babushka
Obama’s Chicago-vote-fraud machine reaches all the way to Virginia!!!
374 | HappyWarrior Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:34:47pm |
re: #369 Vicious Babushka
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I guess the CHicago machine isn’t working in New Jersey.
375 | Varek Raith Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:35:02pm |
re: #361 HappyWarrior
Heh, I’m really interested in seeing how the delegate race turns out here. Costello-Daniel ran a great race. Very positive.
At least Miller here isn’t running unopposed.
376 | wrenchwench Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:35:19pm |
Never forget http://t.co/h2gApoPKps— Tx Freedom Network (@TFN) November 6, 2013
377 | HappyWarrior Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:35:28pm |
378 | Varek Raith Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:36:04pm |
379 | Skip Intro Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:36:13pm |
re: #373 jaunte
Obama’s Chicago-vote-fraud machine reaches all the way to Virginia!!!
Well, why not? They’ve been working since before he was born to put him in the White House, after all.
380 | HappyWarrior Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:36:27pm |
381 | missliberties Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:36:52pm |
re: #337 jamesfirecat
Thank You. I hate election nights when races *seem* this close. !!!! Arrggh. Just the tought of Cooch winning makes me ill.
Crazy how Christie cruised to a win. But remember he spent a cool mil, making sure that Cory Booker, won early so he wouldn’t be anywhere on the ticket with Christie!
Christie’s big secret is he is having fun. He loves politics. Not too many other pols seem to enjoy it like he does. Especially these days.
382 | Gus Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:37:03pm |
Ken Cuccinelli 525,181 48.7%
Terry McAuliffe 476,319 44.2%
Robert Sarvis 76,101 7.1%
53% reporting
383 | GeneJockey Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:37:04pm |
re: #358 HappyWarrior
Which is hilarious given that America has been a predominately urban nation since 1900 I believe. When I hear people bitch about the cities and more liberal suburbs, I hear someone who can’t deal with the fact that America’s not the lily white Protestant country it once was.
There’s a scene at the end of “Armageddon”, after Bruce Willis blows up the asteroid and saves all our bacon. They show people in different countries, then they cut to America. America they portray as a group of white kids in a really rural town, with an orange-crate-and-red-wagon Space Shuttle, with a faded poster of JFK in the background.
I saw that and I thought, that really, really is what so many people think America is - all small towns full of white people and little Mom and Pop stores and maybe a factory, but the owner lives in town and his kid goes to the local high school.
384 | Targetpractice Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:37:17pm |
McAuliffe’s gaining ground and Sarvis’ portion of the vote hasn’t shrunk below 5%. Yeah, if I were Cucci’s election team, I’d be seriously sweating right now.
385 | Gus Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:38:30pm |
Ken Cuccinelli 594,873 48.0%
Terry McAuliffe 556,575 44.9%
Robert Sarvis 86,985 7.0%
59% reporting
386 | teleskiguy Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:38:37pm |
Key to Virginia is going to be winning more votes than the other candidate once all the particular counties are aggregated.— Matt Yglesias (@mattyglesias) November 6, 2013
387 | HappyWarrior Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:38:50pm |
re: #381 missliberties
Thank You. I hate election nights when races *seem* this close. !!!! Arrggh. Just the tought of Cooch winning makes me ill.
Crazy how Christie cruised to a win. But remember he spent a cool mil, making sure that Cory Booker, won early so he wouldn’t be anywhere on the ticket with Christie!
Christie’s big secret is he is having fun. He loves politics. Not too many other pols seem to enjoy it like he does. Especially these days.
I think Christie only is smart enough not to be a so-con first. He’s as socially conservative as your average Republican- anti-choice, anti-marriage equality, etc but he doesn’t really run on that. I expect that this will be what sinks him when he runs for president. The so-cons will accuse him of not doing enough to limit choice and letting gay marriage go off without a fight. But I agree, he likes the hustle and bustle of politics.
388 | Varek Raith Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:39:04pm |
389 | ObserverArt Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:41:03pm |
re: #267 Eclectic Cyborg
Bomp chicka bomp bomp
Sly and the Family Stone!
I wonder where Sly and Larry Graham got those beats and words.
390 | Varek Raith Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:41:27pm |
Sarvis needs to go less than 5, probably 4 for Kenny to have a snowball’s chance in hell at winning.
391 | Gus Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:41:32pm |
Ken Cuccinelli 630,083 48.0%
Terry McAuliffe 590,668 45.0%
Robert Sarvis 92,729 7.1%
62% reporting
392 | HappyWarrior Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:41:34pm |
re: #383 GeneJockey
There’s a scene at the end of “Armageddon”, after Bruce Willis blows up the asteroid and saves all our bacon. They show people in different countries, then they cut to America. America they portray as a group of white kids in a really rural town, with an orange-crate-and-red-wagon Space Shuttle, with a faded poster of JFK in the background.
I saw that and I thought, that really, really is what so many people think America is - all small towns full of white people and little Mom and Pop stores and maybe a factory, but the owner lives in town and his kid goes to the local high school.
Yep. I think you’re right. What I’ve observed since I moved to the more exburbs is that people know each more out here than in the burbs. When we did my kid brother’s basketball drafted, he ended up knowing most of the kids we picked up. Meanwhile when I was growing up in Fairfax County, I was lucky if I knew a couple of people. I don’t have a problem with small town America but the difference is I realize that small-town values especially socially conservative small town values aren’t always right and furthermore that there’s no shame in living in an urban area.
393 | Varek Raith Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:42:20pm |
re: #390 Varek Raith
Sarvis needs to go less than 5, probably 4 for Kenny to have a snowball’s chance in hell at winning.
Lol, I must remember not to use greater than or less than signs.
XD
394 | jaunte Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:43:55pm |
Disappointing news from Washington: pic.twitter.com/IyIC5cYMuB
— Ellen Wernecke (@neithernor) November 5, 2013
395 | Varek Raith Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:44:01pm |
Fairfax City, No votes counted.
Yeah, Ken’s screwed.
396 | ObserverArt Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:44:11pm |
397 | Targetpractice Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:44:46pm |
398 | HappyWarrior Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:45:27pm |
re: #395 Varek Raith
Fairfax City, No voted counted.
Yeah, Ken’s screwed.
Hahaha then it will be his and my alma mater that will due him in and IIRC his district when he was in the state senate was Fairfax as well.
399 | jamesfirecat Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:45:54pm |
re: #395 Varek Raith
Fairfax City, No voted counted.
Yeah, Ken’s screwed.
What is Fairfax City like the the most liberal part of Virginia?
400 | jaunte Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:46:50pm |
BREAKING: Women’s health champion @RalphNortham is the projected winner in the Virginia Lt. Governor’s race! pic.twitter.com/GfdNqdsRS8
— Planned Parenthood (@PPact) November 6, 2013
401 | Targetpractice Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:47:04pm |
re: #399 jamesfirecat
What is Fairfax City like the the most liberal part of Virginia?
Pretty much. The joke wingnuts like to make is that everything north of Fairfax is “Lower D.C.”
402 | jamesfirecat Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:47:08pm |
re: #397 Targetpractice
Must have run out of plutonium.
/(geek moment)
He’s got plenty of it, but he can’t get his solar powered car to reach 88 miles per hour…
403 | HappyWarrior Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:47:10pm |
re: #399 jamesfirecat
What is Fairfax City like the the most liberal part of Virginia?
GMU. I know some people who I went to school with who worked their asses off on the McAuliffe campaign. Not sure if they still have the precinct on campus that we fought for though.
404 | jamesfirecat Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:48:20pm |
re: #401 Targetpractice
Pretty much. The joke wingnuts like to make is that everything north of Fairfax is “Lower D.C.”
I don’t get it, unless they’re arguing that part of Virginia votes as liberally as Maryland does…
405 | HappyWarrior Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:48:25pm |
re: #400 jaunte
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Yay. Bye Reverend Jackson. Go compare Planned Parenthood to the KKK somewhere else you homophobic fuckwad. I really wanted the Dems to nominate the Indian-American dude but if we get Herring in at AG, Terry should he win will have two Virginia state senators who understand how our state works helping him.
406 | Varek Raith Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:48:38pm |
re: #401 Targetpractice
Pretty much. The joke wingnuts like to make is that everything north of Fairfax is “Lower D.C.”
And that’s spreading into Prince William and Loudoun counties.
407 | teleskiguy Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:49:36pm |
Hey Charles, election results are getting pretty fluid. Maybe an Election Day Open Thread?
408 | HappyWarrior Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:50:15pm |
re: #406 Varek Raith
And that’s spreading into Prince William and Loudoun counties.
Yeah we may have a pick up in the state House of Delegates here. Some TP nut challenged and beat a long sitting Republican. A lady on the Berryville town council got the Dem nonination and has run a very savvy campaign. Should also mention that these counties have gone to Obama both times.
410 | Targetpractice Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:51:57pm |
re: #404 jamesfirecat
I don’t get it, unless they’re arguing that part of Virginia votes as liberally as Maryland does…
Virginia conservatives like to believe that VA is slowly being encroached upon by the liberal enclave that is Washington D.C., as more and more folks settle in NoVa while working for the “big government.” Thus, in their minds, NoVa is not “Real Virginia.”
411 | jaunte Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:52:39pm |
Henrico County is 94% done, McA won by 13.5—better than Obama's 11.8 pt victory. More evidence of big McA suburban margins.
— Nate Cohn (@Nate_Cohn) November 6, 2013
412 | Amory Blaine Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:53:33pm |
If one needs a colonoscopy, squeeze your buttocks suspiciously.
413 | Vicious Babushka Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:53:59pm |
how chris christie won re-election, in one tweet. pic.twitter.com/5tqPPUrr7U— Oliver Willis (@owillis) November 6, 2013
414 | jamesfirecat Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:54:08pm |
re: #410 Targetpractice
Virginia conservatives like to believe that VA is slowly being encroached upon by the liberal enclave that is Washington D.C., as more and more folks settle in NoVa while working for the “big government.” Thus, in their minds, NoVa is not “Real Virginia.”
Damn it why does DC get all the blame we here in Maryland are proud members of a reliably blue state where reliably tiny rural areas get the CRUSHED at the polls by larger urban ones, why don’t we get any credit for “corrupting” Virginia?
415 | jaunte Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:54:13pm |
#LibCrib Breaking: President Obama tells New Jersey residents, ” If you like your governor, you can keep him!” #SorryHadTo
— Russ Hayden (@CribBoss) November 6, 2013
416 | The Ghost of a Flea Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:54:17pm |
re: #410 Targetpractice
Virginia conservatives like to believe that VA is slowly being encroached upon by the liberal enclave that is Washington D.C., as more and more folks settle in NoVa while working for the “big government.” Thus, in their minds, NoVa is not “Real Virginia.”
So “as above, so below”?
417 | HappyWarrior Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:55:03pm |
re: #410 Targetpractice
Virginia conservatives like to believe that VA is slowly being encroached upon by the liberal enclave that is Washington D.C., as more and more folks settle in NoVa while working for the “big government.” Thus, in their minds, NoVa is not “Real Virginia.”
They also have the wrong perception that NOVA residents are liberals. Now I am a liberal. I make no bones about that but our representation in Congress is moderate. Jim Moran and Gerry Connolly are both moderate Democrats. And even as recently as 2010, Gerry had to fight off a TP wacko to hold his seat. If the Republicans adapted more moderate positions, they could win here. I mean it needs to be said but Bill Clinton never won Fairfax County. Yeah demographics are different now than they were then and he would surely win now but the fact of the matter is NOVA voters aren’t the fiery leftists that the rural GOP convince themselves we are.
419 | HappyWarrior Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:55:42pm |
re: #414 jamesfirecat
Damn it why does DC get all the credit we here in Maryland are proud members of a reliably blue state where reliably tiny rural areas get the CRUSHED at the polls by larger urban ones, why don’t we get any credit for “corrupting” Virginia?
Not enough crab cakes!
421 | wrenchwench Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:56:03pm |
re: #412 Amory Blaine
If one needs a colonoscopy, squeeze your buttocks suspiciously.
That guy is being charged for those ‘medical services’. A collection agency is after him. I hope at least they checked for polyps while they were there.
422 | Vicious Babushka Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:56:13pm |
BUTTHURT
Problem is #Cuccinelli must win by at least 7% to get within the margin of Democrat fraud #VAGov— Matt Barber (@jmattbarber) November 6, 2013
423 | HappyWarrior Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:56:31pm |
Varek, TP. How’s AG looking? I actually like Herring the most of all the Dems that ran.
424 | Varek Raith Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:56:34pm |
re: #414 jamesfirecat
Damn it why does DC get all the credit we here in Maryland are proud members of a reliably blue state where reliably tiny rural areas get the CRUSHED at the polls by larger urban ones, why don’t we get any credit for “corrupting” Virginia?
Because you all drive too slow.
425 | Vicious Babushka Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:57:01pm |
“@rsmccain: Why Democrat precincts take longer to report results: Have to be careful when you're counting tombstones and vacant lots.”— Matt Barber (@jmattbarber) November 6, 2013
426 | Varek Raith Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:57:04pm |
re: #423 HappyWarrior
Varek, TP. How’s AG looking? I actually like Herring the most of all the Dems that ran.
I’m not so confident of a D win on that one, sadly.
427 | HappyWarrior Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:57:29pm |
re: #422 Vicious Babushka
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Yeah it’s fraud. Funny how that “fraud” didn’t help Barbara Buono in New Jersey, a state that actually has a history of fraud. Maybe you should find some proof of “fraud” Matt other than just crying that your loser who wants to criminalize giving head is going down fast.
428 | Vicious Babushka Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:57:36pm |
For those peering into Fairfax County results, Dem districts are Lee (20% reporting), Mason (29%) & Providence (15%) http://t.co/JgKFz9B9Pr— Michael McDonald (@ElectProject) November 6, 2013
429 | Varek Raith Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:57:50pm |
re: #425 Vicious Babushka
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Couldn’t possibly be because we have a shit ton more people.
Nope!
430 | HappyWarrior Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:57:53pm |
re: #425 Vicious Babushka
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Yeah it can’t possibly be that they have more people. Fucktards.
432 | Targetpractice Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:58:37pm |
Heh…
2. If Virginia Beach Glows Blue
The state’s largest city once was a reliable GOP stonghold. Jim Gilmore came out of Virgnia Beach with a 17,000-vote margin in 1997. The GOP margin was cut by half four years later and, in 2005, Democrat Tim Kaine carried Virginia Beach. The city returned to form four years ago to give hometown Republican Bob McDonnell a 27,000-vote margin.
Returns VPAP will Track: 8 precincts where Kaine did 52% or better in 2005 and McDonnell won by more than 60% four years later.
8:46 PM - 7 of 8 bellwether precincts from Va. Beach are in. (kaine won in ‘05; mcdonnell won in ‘09) McAuliffe carried 5 of 7.
433 | Backwoods_Sleuth Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:58:46pm |
re: #383 GeneJockey
There’s a scene at the end of “Armageddon”, after Bruce Willis blows up the asteroid and saves all our bacon. They show people in different countries, then they cut to America. America they portray as a group of white kids in a really rural town, with an orange-crate-and-red-wagon Space Shuttle, with a faded poster of JFK in the background.
I saw that and I thought, that really, really is what so many people think America is - all small towns full of white people and little Mom and Pop stores and maybe a factory, but the owner lives in town and his kid goes to the local high school.
I always thought that scene of the kids with the space shuttle/JFK poster was in Spain or Italy or somewhere Mediterranean.
Goes to show how perceptions differ.
435 | Amory Blaine Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:59:12pm |
re: #421 wrenchwench
That guy is being charged for those ‘medical services’. A collection agency is after him. I hope at least they checked for polyps while they were there.
I’ll bet if he asked about the health of his colon the doctors would have told him they couldn’t advise him as their licenses would in jeopardy.
436 | teleskiguy Tue, Nov 5, 2013 5:59:29pm |
re: #422 Vicious Babushka
Hey, look what that neo-confederate racist asshole has to say!
Why Democrat precincts take longer to report results: Have to be careful when you're counting tombstones and vacant lots.— Robert Stacy McCain (@rsmccain) November 6, 2013
439 | jaunte Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:00:45pm |
440 | Backwoods_Sleuth Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:00:52pm |
re: #412 Amory Blaine
If one needs a colonoscopy, squeeze your buttocks suspiciously.
in New Mexico…while blowing a stop sign at WalMart…
441 | Varek Raith Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:01:07pm |
And sure enough, the calls of fraud.
Sorry wingnuts, cities take longer to count.
442 | teleskiguy Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:01:25pm |
More than half of Norfolk, Hampton, Prince William, Fairfax still out. That Cuccinelli lead has an expiration date. #VAGov— daveweigel (@daveweigel) November 6, 2013
443 | Varek Raith Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:01:51pm |
444 | Belafon Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:02:03pm |
re: #425 Vicious Babushka
Do Republican districts know the vote totals before the election?
445 | HappyWarrior Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:02:04pm |
446 | teleskiguy Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:02:19pm |
re: #425 Vicious Babushka
Ah, beat me to it! The internet can be so fast sometimes.
447 | Targetpractice Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:02:31pm |
re: #442 teleskiguy
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Think of this moment like the top of the roller coaster, that feeling as the momentum slowly falls away, but just before the plunge.
448 | Varek Raith Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:02:44pm |
449 | HappyWarrior Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:03:19pm |
Obensham up by 4. I think Herring can turn it. Obensham I think will be doomed by being tied to Cucci and Jackson and if he ever runs for state office again, he’ll try to distance himself from them even more.
450 | Targetpractice Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:03:34pm |
re: #448 Varek Raith
It’s 2012 all over again for the right.
7pm “We got this in the bag!”
9pm “Okay, so it’s not as big a lead as it was, but we can still pull it off.”
11pm “HOW THE FUCK DID WE LOSE?!”
451 | lawhawk Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:03:43pm |
re: #441 Varek Raith
Places with lots of precincts and people take longer. When you’ve got counties/areas that have scant numbers of people, it’s quicker to tally results and verify them.
Urban areas take longer, and that doesn’t signify anything.
But that Cucci’s numbers are what they are without the urban areas reporting, and it’s not looking good for him at all.
And that’s a good thing.
452 | Varek Raith Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:03:48pm |
Kenneth T. Cuccinelli II Rep. 813,397 47.2%
Terry McAuliffe Dem. 790,594 45.9
Robert Sarvis Lib. 118,459 6.9
453 | teleskiguy Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:03:56pm |
Now Sarvis is an “Obama Plant” to these bozos! There’s not enough popcorn in the world…
Obama plant #Sarvis may serve his intend purpose: give #VAGov race to #McAuliffe. #Libertarians, useful idiot much?— Matt Barber (@jmattbarber) November 6, 2013
454 | Targetpractice Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:04:21pm |
re: #453 teleskiguy
Now Sarvis is an “Obama Plant” to these bozos! There’s not enough popcorn in the world…
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And the cannibalization begins.
455 | jaunte Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:04:22pm |
RT @nytimes: Breaking News: Bill De Blasio Elected Mayor of New York http://t.co/50r3xYfPk0
— Sam Stein (@samsteinhp) November 6, 2013
456 | Varek Raith Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:04:40pm |
re: #453 teleskiguy
Now Sarvis is an “Obama Plant” to these bozos! There’s not enough popcorn in the world…
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Rofl.
457 | Amory Blaine Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:04:51pm |
Virginia GOP will throw libertarian under the bus. Rinse, recycle, repeat.
458 | jaunte Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:05:05pm |
All Texas statewide propositions have passed, Texas @AP calls. #txlege #txelex Voters approve $2B for Texas water fund.
— ChrisTomlinson (@cltomlinson) November 6, 2013
459 | Varek Raith Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:05:31pm |
re: #454 Targetpractice
And the cannibalization begins.
Well, Kenny wasn’t conservative enough for them so they needed a third party candidate!
Morans.
460 | Backwoods_Sleuth Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:05:52pm |
461 | Decatur Deb Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:06:12pm |
re: #457 Amory Blaine
Virginia GOP will throw libertarian under the bus. Rinse, recycle, repeat.
The sweetness is that Ron and Ran were the conductors.
462 | Targetpractice Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:06:19pm |
The VPAP site seems to be having problems. Hasn’t been an update in over 20 minutes.
464 | HappyWarrior Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:06:27pm |
re: #453 teleskiguy
Now Sarvis is an “Obama Plant” to these bozos! There’s not enough popcorn in the world…
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He ran for state senate as a Republican here in the primary two years ago in a district held by the Democratic leader there. If he’s a plant. He’s a terrible one. Barber just can’t stand the fact that Virginia rejects Cucci and his agenda.
465 | lawhawk Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:06:37pm |
gap down to 23k now so fairfax should do it for McAuliffe.he's stil due to gain more than 30K votes there http://t.co/yd5repiYeZ— Jon Ward (@jonward11) November 6, 2013
467 | Skip Intro Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:07:10pm |
It’s beginning to look like the golden touch of the Wasilla Warblegarbler has failed again.
468 | HappyWarrior Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:07:24pm |
re: #463 Varek Raith
Bolling could’ve won, but noooo~.
XD
Bolling is going to do an “I told you so” in 2017 or 18 if he wants to run against Kaine.
469 | Targetpractice Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:08:33pm |
re: #463 Varek Raith
Bolling could’ve won, but noooo~.
XD
Could have, and probably would have if they hadn’t changed how the party primary worked. Considering how badly Cucci got outspent, it’s no wonder that Bolling decided against a third party run.
470 | Feline Fearless Leader Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:08:50pm |
re: #383 GeneJockey
There’s a scene at the end of “Armageddon”, after Bruce Willis blows up the asteroid and saves all our bacon. They show people in different countries, then they cut to America. America they portray as a group of white kids in a really rural town, with an orange-crate-and-red-wagon Space Shuttle, with a faded poster of JFK in the background.
I saw that and I thought, that really, really is what so many people think America is - all small towns full of white people and little Mom and Pop stores and maybe a factory, but the owner lives in town and his kid goes to the local high school.
Until the factory suddenly blows up and flattens the high school located right next to the factory. But that only happens in Texas.
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471 | Varek Raith Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:09:10pm |
It’s not enough to nominate nice, yet conservative candidates who could win.
No, they gotta nominate raging asshole conservatives who lose.
472 | Amory Blaine Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:09:18pm |
re: #464 HappyWarrior
He ran for state senate as a Republican here in the primary two years ago in a district held by the Democratic leader there. If he’s a plant. He’s a terrible one. Barber just can’t stand the fact that Virginia rejects Cucci and his agenda.
The margin isn’t high enough. The CW will be that 7% or whatever of voters thought Cucc wasn’t conservative enough.
474 | HappyWarrior Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:10:15pm |
re: #472 Amory Blaine
The margin isn’t high enough. The CW will be that 7% or whatever of voters thought Cucc wasn’t conservative enough.
Which is laughable considering that Sarvis is very pro gay marriage. Even brought up that his own marriage would have been illegal here.
476 | Bubblehead II Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:10:45pm |
re: #467 Skip Intro
It’s beginning to look like the golden touch of the Wasilla Warblegarbler has failed again.
Don’t you mean that the kiss of death from Caribou Barbie has once agin worked its magic?
Or did you just forget your sarc tags?
477 | Amory Blaine Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:11:02pm |
re: #473 Decatur Deb
Candy corn seeds must freeze out in nature, so sure.
478 | HappyWarrior Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:11:16pm |
re: #475 Varek Raith
Norfolk 36% reporting, Fairfax City 0%.
I said it earlier but I love that Fairfax City and thus GMU coming in will be what makes Ken fall behind for good. GMU’s his alma mater.
479 | ObserverArt Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:11:25pm |
re: #467 Skip Intro
It’s beginning to look like the golden touch of the Wasilla Warblegarbler has failed again.
Sometime they are going to figure out she is more a cast iron boat anchor than any bird.
480 | Decatur Deb Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:12:34pm |
re: #477 Amory Blaine
Candy corn seeds must freeze out in nature, so sure.
Gotta get this crap off my desk.
481 | jaunte Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:12:38pm |
High percentage of men in Virginia vote against legalized blow jobs #VAGOV
— Lizz Winstead (@lizzwinstead) November 6, 2013
Seems odd.
482 | HappyWarrior Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:13:08pm |
Chuck Todd ignores that Deeds was unappealing to most of us here in NOVA.
483 | Varek Raith Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:13:17pm |
My dad voted for Sarvis, Northam and Obenshain.
Weird, but it’s a start.
484 | HappyWarrior Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:13:23pm |
485 | Decatur Deb Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:13:31pm |
486 | Political Atheist Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:13:33pm |
Music break for the evening?
This is dedicated to Dragon Lady. The lyrics are exactly what things have been like, and how we apply a little attitude to cope.
487 | Targetpractice Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:13:43pm |
Calling Sarvis the “spoiler” is comical, as it seems they really believe that all those votes would have gone to Cucci otherwise. None to McAuliffe, none just staying home, all would have gone exclusively to Cucci.
488 | Varek Raith Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:13:46pm |
re: #482 HappyWarrior
Chuck Todd ignores that Deeds was unappealing to most of us here in NOVA.
Chuck Todd is a moran.
489 | Varek Raith Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:14:15pm |
re: #487 Targetpractice
Calling Sarvis the “spoiler” is comical, as it seems they really believe that all those votes would have gone to Cucci otherwise. None to McAuliffe, none just staying home, all would have gone exclusively to Cucci.
Shhh… Don’t spoil the fun.
490 | jamesfirecat Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:14:46pm |
492 | Bubblehead II Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:14:59pm |
493 | Varek Raith Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:15:06pm |
Todd has no understanding of Virginia politics.
This is my shocked face.
494 | HappyWarrior Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:15:46pm |
re: #488 Varek Raith
Chuck Todd is a moran.
Yeah, he’s right that McDonnell ran a good campaign but he totally ignores how bad a campaign Deeds did.
495 | klys Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:15:58pm |
Gouda, salami, grapes, crackers, a rum and coke…
…and a lecture on context free languages. Sigh. Save me, Lizards.
496 | The Ghost of a Flea Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:17:40pm |
re: #481 jaunte
Seems odd.
Lots of white guys banking on sodomy laws being applied with the same diligence and even-handedness as drug laws.
497 | Targetpractice Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:18:06pm |
And like that, Cucci and McAuliffe are within a percentage point of each other.
Mine is an evil laugh!
498 | Kragar Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:18:19pm |
@jmattbarber Your tears are so yummy.— Kragar (@Kragar_LGF) November 6, 2013
499 | Decatur Deb Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:18:49pm |
re: #496 The Ghost of a Flea
Lots of white guys banking on sodomy laws being applied with the same diligence and even-handedness as drug laws.
Lot of Norfolk sailors. Also against rum and the lash.
500 | Varek Raith Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:19:39pm |
re: #499 Decatur Deb
Lot of Norfolk sailors. Also against rum and the lash.
Norfolk - 66% to Terry so far.
501 | Decatur Deb Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:20:14pm |
502 | HappyWarrior Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:20:41pm |
503 | Varek Raith Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:20:46pm |
504 | Varek Raith Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:21:10pm |
505 | HappyWarrior Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:21:40pm |
506 | Varek Raith Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:21:44pm |
re: #504 Varek Raith
Government Shutdown, I’d wager.
That’s another thing wingnuts fail to take in to account as to why Kenny is going to lose.
508 | AlexRogan Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:22:26pm |
Cucci’s down to a half-percent lead (less than 9000 votes) with almost 80% reporting.
509 | HappyWarrior Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:22:28pm |
re: #506 Varek Raith
That’s another thing wingnuts fail to take in to account as to why Kenny is going to lose.
Well they’ll take that into account and then bitch about “government leeches.” Yeah how dare we make our livelihood serving our country.
510 | jaunte Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:23:00pm |
Based on results in #VAgov and early Amd66 returns in Colo., safe to say Obamacare meltdown hurting Democrats. #COpolitics
— Eli Stokols (@EliStokols) November 6, 2013
Right up until McAuliffe takes it.
511 | Varek Raith Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:23:16pm |
re: #508 AlexRogan
Cucci’s down to a half-percent lead (less than 9000 votes) with almost 80% reporting.
With the rest being in Terry’s favor.
512 | Targetpractice Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:23:28pm |
So it looks like we’re going to have a Dem Gov, Dem LtGov, and a Repub AG. Should be rather…interesting.
513 | HappyWarrior Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:23:29pm |
re: #510 jaunte
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Right up until McAuliffe takes it.
Hahaha. Do these guys not look at maps at all?
514 | Varek Raith Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:23:36pm |
515 | Feline Fearless Leader Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:24:31pm |
re: #513 HappyWarrior
Hahaha. Do these guys not look at maps at all?
Only to claim that Democrat voting areas match up with gun violence statistics.
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516 | missliberties Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:24:32pm |
re: #510 jaunte
The race being this close of a nail biter is a surprise to everyone. Why were the polls so wrong?
518 | AlexRogan Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:24:46pm |
re: #221 thedopefishlives
Anything that involves the Mythbusters blowing things up is one of my favorite episodes of all time. So, like, 95% of them.
The drinking episodes are funny too; I LOL’ed when Grant and Tory did their beer vs. liquor test and Grant spewed on-camera.
Kari’s reaction to the smell in the shop immediately afterwards was pure gold.
519 | Varek Raith Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:25:10pm |
All of Ken’s problems were self inflicted.
Deal with it, wingnuts.
520 | jaunte Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:25:17pm |
re: #516 missliberties
Takes longer to count the areas with more voters, and that’s where the D vote is.
521 | ObserverArt Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:25:30pm |
Question. If a majority of states or even a set number of states legalize same sex marriage, does it ever tip to making that a national law just by there being a majority?
I know I may be thinking of the process to amend the Constitution…but was just wondering?
522 | HappyWarrior Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:25:32pm |
re: #512 Targetpractice
So it looks like we’re going to have a Dem Gov, Dem LtGov, and a Repub AG. Should be rather…interesting.
I still hold out hope that Herring can pull it out but I think Obensham will at least be socially moderate. I guarantee that he’s got his ambitions on higher office. But in a way, him winning shows how stupid the people who think there’s fraud are. I don’t trust Obensham at all. He reminds me of McDonnell. Acts like he’s more moderate than he really is.
523 | GeneJockey Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:25:43pm |
0.03%
EDIT: That’s Cooch’s lead as of 6:25 PST
524 | HappyWarrior Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:26:53pm |
Hahaha Rand Paul got really pissy with the NYT. If it will make people leave me teh hell alone. You know what Truman said Rand? He said if you can’t stand the heat. Stay the hell out of the kitchen.
525 | Targetpractice Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:27:36pm |
So when does Karl Rove march across the room and start throwing a shit fit?
527 | Varek Raith Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:28:14pm |
Looking like Norfolk will be last to fully report.
528 | Kragar Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:28:30pm |
@rsmccain Because more people live in cities than shithole back wood villages.— Kragar (@Kragar_LGF) November 6, 2013
529 | AlexRogan Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:28:39pm |
530 | Skip Intro Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:28:46pm |
re: #524 HappyWarrior
“Washington Times ends Sen. Rand Paul column amid plagiarism allegations”
Chuckle.
531 | HappyWarrior Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:28:50pm |
re: #527 Varek Raith
Looking like Norfolk will be last to fully report.
I like the idea of a military area doing the Republicans in here.
532 | Targetpractice Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:28:53pm |
2. If Loudoun County Turns RedNo candidate since Mark Warner in 2001 has won a statewide election without carrying Loudoun County, an ex-urb behemoth with 210,000 registered voters. Loudoun has full-on politics this year - all House seats are contested and most are targeted. Democrats have a local guy - Mark Herring — running on the statewide ticket. Loudoun is a real test of party ground game this year.
Returns VPAP will track: Seven precincts where McDonnell won 55% or better in 2009 and Obama won 52-55% in 2012. If these precincts go solidly red, Republicans might be able to breath easier.
9:20 P.M. — 6 OF 8 PRECINCTS TRACKED REPORTING. MCAULIFFE CARRIED ALL 6.
533 | HappyWarrior Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:29:21pm |
re: #530 Skip Intro
“Washington Times ends Sen. Rand Paul column amid plagiarism allegations”
Chuckle.
Haw-Haw!
534 | Stanley Sea Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:29:30pm |
Gorgeous! RT @NewsBreaker: Meet the De Blasios, New York City's new first family: http://t.co/xmwGOyjTnu - @NYMag pic.twitter.com/Whk99Vj5L5
— Smarty Pants (@Smartypants60) November 6, 2013
535 | GeneJockey Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:29:36pm |
re: #530 Skip Intro
“Washington Times ends Sen. Rand Paul column amid plagiarism allegations”
Chuckle.
“Even the Conservative Washington Times…..”
536 | jaunte Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:29:53pm |
No question if Sarvis wasn't in race probably would have been called for Cuccinelli by now. #VAGov
— Jason Newton (@newtonian64) November 6, 2013
Lol.
537 | Varek Raith Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:30:01pm |
538 | HappyWarrior Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:30:05pm |
re: #532 Targetpractice
Wow if Terry won my precinct, Ken’s in deep trouble. We’re in western Loudoun here near the Clarke County border.
539 | Varek Raith Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:30:24pm |
540 | Belafon Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:31:14pm |
re: #521 ObserverArt
This would only apply in possibly influencing the Supreme Court. There is no “26 states recognize same sex marriage so it’s now legal everywhere.” And the way our current SCOTUS is, they would only use it if it allowed them to restrict rights.
541 | HappyWarrior Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:31:26pm |
re: #536 jaunte
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Lol.
Yeah races should be totally limtied to two people. I love how Sarvis is being called a Dem plant. He ran for the Republican nomination two years ago to run against the then Democratic majority leader in the state senate but I guess facts are lost on the wingnut morons. I voted for Sarvis. You couldn’t pay me to vote Cucci.
542 | jaunte Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:31:36pm |
how many times are we going to let #dems steal elections?NOW? #vagov #sarvis before: #irs #benghazi pushed back, #obamacare lies @foxnews
— I'm No Chump (@JohnFict) November 6, 2013
He’s no chump, I tell you!
543 | jaunte Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:32:32pm |
Don't blame Sarvis. Blame Alinsky RT @amylutz4: Thanks, Sarvis. #VAGov
— Linda Champney (@lindawmn) November 6, 2013
That guy sure gets around.
544 | Varek Raith Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:32:58pm |
Lol.
I’m amused by all the wingnut tears.
Your candidate sucked. Well…he wanted to make that illegal.
So…
Nevermind.
545 | Varek Raith Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:33:53pm |
And it ain’t like Terry was a stellar candidate, hells no.
Lol.
546 | ObserverArt Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:34:13pm |
re: #535 GeneJockey
“Even the Conservative Washington Times…..”
Frees up some of that time!
I posted in one of the earlier threads a bit of that fits here again.
But, if anyone hears him say anything about Obama lying and deceiving people about keeping their health plans…he should be and most likely will be slammed by the press and hopefully by the voters of Kentucky and everyone else. He just took away any moral high ground and put himself in a patch of quicksand or wet clay mud.
He is going to find out the last few weeks have not been good for him.
Good for us though.
547 | dog philosopher Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:34:22pm |
548 | HappyWarrior Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:34:22pm |
I mean it’s not the fact that Cuccinelli is a fringe nutjob. Don’t most of these people claim they’re not Republicans but really “libertarians” anyhow. I won’t lie. I voted for Sarvis in part to shove that to them.That these so called libertarians are just Republicans who are too embarrassed to admit it.
549 | BongCrodny Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:34:43pm |
re: #530 Skip Intro
“Washington Times ends Sen. Rand Paul column amid plagiarism allegations”
Chuckle.
When you’ve lost the Moonies…
550 | Bubblehead II Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:35:16pm |
re: #521 ObserverArt
Question. If a majority of states or even a set number of states legalize same sex marriage, does it ever tip to making that a national law just by there being a majority?
I know I may be thinking of the process to amend the Constitution…but was just wondering?
Personally, I think if 26+ States recognize SSM as valid, the SCOTUS will have no choice but to make it a National law without ammeding the Constitution.
But that is just my opinion.
551 | HappyWarrior Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:35:25pm |
re: #545 Varek Raith
And it ain’t like Terry was a stellar candidate, hells no.
Lol.
Seriously they had the perfect opportunity to sweep all three parts of the ticekt again and they blew it the second they forced Bolling out for Cucci and the stupid nominating convention nominated Jackson. They have only themselves to blame.
552 | ObserverArt Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:36:09pm |
re: #540 Belafon
This would only apply in possibly influencing the Supreme Court. There is no “26 states recognize same sex marriage so it’s now legal everywhere.” And the way our current SCOTUS is, they would only use it if it allowed them to restrict rights.
Thanks for that.
554 | Varek Raith Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:36:42pm |
re: #551 HappyWarrior
Seriously they had the perfect opportunity to sweep all three parts of the ticekt again and they blew it the second they forced Bolling out for Cucci and the stupid nominating convention nominated Jackson. They have only themselves to blame.
This shouldn’t have been even close.
Good one, GOP.
555 | BongCrodny Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:39:28pm |
re: #541 HappyWarrior
Yeah races should be totally limtied to two people. I love how Sarvis is being called a Dem plant. He ran for the Republican nomination two years ago to run against the then Democratic majority leader in the state senate but I guess facts are lost on the wingnut morons. I voted for Sarvis. You couldn’t pay me to vote Cucci.
It works the same on both sides.
Up here the Democrat, Mike Michaud, has a commanding lead over the unpopular incumbent governor, Paul LePage, in a two-man race,
However, Eliot Cutler is running again, and with him in the race, Michaud and LePage are running neck-and-neck.
Cutler’s not a libertarian, but it just further shows what can happen when a third party candidate has an impact on the election.
557 | BongCrodny Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:42:19pm |
AP’s got 91% in, and McAuliffe is ahead by 5,000.
558 | sagehen Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:42:40pm |
re: #460 Backwoods_Sleuth
Didn’t polls just close in NYC about 5 minutes ago?
The last polling, a few days ago, had DeBlasio ahead of Lhota 68-24. So even if every single undecided broke for Lhota, and 1/4 of DeBlasio’s support switched sides, he’d still win.
When the campaign called to ask me to volunteer for GOTV, they said “we’re hoping to get over 70%, we think that will provide a bigger mandate not just here but for liberal policies in other states as well, please can you come help?”
559 | Mentis Fugit Tue, Nov 5, 2013 6:53:22pm |
560 | HappyWarrior Tue, Nov 5, 2013 7:08:02pm |
re: #555 BongCrodny
It works the same on both sides.
Up here the Democrat, Mike Michaud, has a commanding lead over the unpopular incumbent governor, Paul LePage, in a two-man race,
However, Eliot Cutler is running again, and with him in the race, Michaud and LePage are running neck-and-neck.
Cutler’s not a libertarian, but it just further shows what can happen when a third party candidate has an impact on the election.
Not denying he had an impact. Just saying that claiming that Sarvis is a Democratic plant is absurd.