The terror attacks in Paris are casting a dark shadow over this debate, and will certainly be a topic of discussion. This debate will include Hillary Clinton, Bernie Sanders and Martin O’Malley; Jim Webb bailed out after the last one.
Note: You can watch live over the web at this page.
The questioneers look somewhat “normal.” Prove me wrong, tv!
That moment of silence was an exceedingly short moment. Unlike Borat asking for 10 minute silence for the Tishnik Massacre.
Bernie should have spent more time on the Paris Massacre and not launched immediately into GUILLOTINES FOR THE 1%
According to RWNJs, Hillary just won the debate by mentioning the word jihadist. Now let’s see if she can win it in reality.
Thing is, as I understand it, 8 people conducted the Paris operation. Eight. Stopping that kind of thing is about good intelligence and police work, not military action.
Bernie clearly did not want to talk about Paris much.
re: #9 Brian J.
According to RWNJs, Hillary just won the debate by mentioning the word jihadist. Now let’s see if she can win it in reality.
She didn’t say the “I” word
Looking forward to Hillary slamming it to Bernie by coming out as a Trotskyite.
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The more I see from Bernie the more I think where he would be most vulnerable would be FP not his economic views. It’s just not an issue that he’s done a lot of work on IMO.
OK, never mind the embedded video. CBS sucks.
re: #9 Brian J.
According to RWNJs, Hillary just won the debate by mentioning the word jihadist. Now let’s see if she can win it in reality.
For a nanosecond they forgot “Benghazi.”
I like Hillary’s stressing the importance of nonmilitary means and cooperation. BTW, that sure as hell ain’t no softball question.
Hillary’s answer much better than any a Republican would give.
re: #11 freetoken
Hillary is well schooled in American politics.
She attended American schools, at least according to her Stasi records.
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I disagree with the question’s premise - that terrorism is the #1 problem for the next President.
Hillary needs to keep making it very clear that as SecState, she was left playing the hand that W dealt for her. And the other Democrats need to do it, too.
re: #18 Brian J.
I like Hillary’s stressing the importance of nonmilitary means and cooperation. BTW, that sure as hell ain’t no softball question.
I like that too.
re: #21 freetoken
I disagree with the question’s premise - that terrorism is the #1 problem for the next President.
The candidates can’t say that though, not today
And already, the moderation in this debate is a league above that in the last GOP debate.
There’s a pretense here - that one can predict the future in detail.
re: #22 Brian J.
Hillary needs to keep making it very clear that as SecState, she was left playing the hand that W dealt for her. And the other Democrats need to do it, too.
Indeed.
“Our role in the world is to confront evil where it rises.” Is Martin O’Malley aware of the size of the check his mouth is writing?
O’Malley that is what Hillary said work with others.
Why isn’t the CBS debate just night vision footage of them in the Big Brother house?
— pourmecoffee (@pourmecoffee) November 15, 2015
I was going to propose some kind of drinking game for tonight’s debate, but the mere thought of levity at this time kinda turns my stomach.
My best hope is that they provide some kind of voice of sanity amidst all the reactionary, bloodthirsty screeching from the howler monkeys on the right wing, and that America, when it comes to its sense in a few months, remembers who the grownups are in the room.
Yeah, I know. As a people, we seem to have the long-term memory capacity of hummingbirds on crack. But a guy can hope, can’t he?
I’ll say that for Bernie. He’s sticking to his guns, so to speak. He’s actually got a reasonable explanation for why climate change is more important than terrorism, at least for people in the market for reasonable explanations.
Bernie… you are not making a great impression on me.
O’Malley gave credit to ISIS for bringing down that Russian airliner. Has that been established?
The invasion of Iraq led to the rise of ISIS, Al Qaeda was already up there
re: #31 Khal Wimpo
I was going to propose some kind of drinking game for tonight’s debate, but the mere thought of levity at this time kinda turns my stomach.
My best hope is that they provide some kind of voice of sanity amidst all the reactionary, bloodthirsty screeching from the howler monkeys on the right wing, and that America, when it comes to its sense in a few months, remembers who the grownups are in the room.
Yeah, I know. As a people, we seem to have the long-term memory capacity of hummingbirds on crack. But a guy can hope, can’t he?
Good in this case; the voters won’t remember this attack next November.
re: #35 The Vicious Babushka
The invasion of Iraq led to the rise of ISIS, Al Qaeda was already up there
Which was inspired by us sending troops to Saudi Arabia in the Gulf War.
re: #36 Big Beautiful Door
Good in this case; the voters won’t remember this attack next November.
Probably. Sigh. Unless somehow the RWNJs can find some rationale for hanging this one around Hilary’s neck. No doubt there are teams combing through the known identities of the attackers, desperately seeking to prove that they are some distant relative of Huma.
Ben being a doucheweasel, as usual==>
Any other impersonal weather patterns you’d like to blame, Democrats, for Muslim terrorists murdering people?
— Ben Shapiro (@benshapiro) November 15, 2015
@daveweigel It’s not a bogus argument; the Dept. of Defense has also warned about this.
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) November 15, 2015
What a stupid little shitgoblin
Yes, I’m sure climate change causes ISIS. Because it’s not like the f***ing desert has been hot for hundreds of thousands of years.
— Ben Shapiro (@benshapiro) November 15, 2015
We get it, Bernie, you voted against Iraq and she voted for it. MOVE ON!
re: #39 Khal Wimpo
Probably. Sigh. Unless somehow the RWNJs can find some rationale for hanging this one around Hilary’s neck. No doubt there are teams combing through the known identities of the attackers, desperately seeking to prove that they are some distant relative of Huma.
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Intelligent debate so far. Of course.
Most American’s have turned the channel to the Housewives.
re: #45 Stanley Sea Toujours
Intelligent debate so far. Of course.
Most American’s have turned the channel to the Housewives.
College football.
re: #40 The Vicious Babushka
Ben being a doucheweasel, as usual==>
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Wonder what he says to his Evangelical asshole friends who blame gay marriage for massacres. Oh wait. Go eat shit Ben.
I thought you said you had better things to do than live-tweet the debate, you stupid little fucker
Obama wants to send ISIS jobs. Bernie Sanders wants to send them air conditioning. Nobody wants to send them the business end of missiles.
— Ben Shapiro (@benshapiro) November 15, 2015
Hillary Clinton is currently demonstrating the problem with giving each candidate only 60 seconds to speak- distilling 1400 years of history into a soundbite leads only to bad policy.
Bernie, what if they say they don wanna put boots on the ground? Seriously.
Hillary says that it’s a complicated part of the world, and the problems are long standing. That won’t fit on a bumper sticker.
But this has also been predicted by studies commissioned by the Dept. of Defense. Sanders is absolutely right on this.
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) November 15, 2015
We already have an international coalition. We don’t have to put one together again.
Somewhere along the line, somebody needs to trace the history of this Islamic extremism to its roots back in the 70s, when Kissinger, in one of his fits of “realpolitik” looked around to counter what he & Nixon saw as the rising spectre of Soviet influence in the Middle East.
Who to counter the atheist Soviets? Hmmm. Bribing people like the Shah was expensive.
Atheiest, you say? Are there are any religious people running around Saudi Arabia we could hitch our wagon to?
The wahhabis? Really? And they hate the atheists? Cool. Let’s do dirty deals with them, then, and if they get out of hand later, we’ll deal with that after we have the Soviets contained.
Fast-forward 40 years. Hilarity ensues.
re: #43 Targetpractice
We get it, Bernie, you voted against Iraq and she voted for it. MOVE ON!
Unfortunately, that’s something I see his supporters love to harp on. She fucked up. Honestly, the question should be about what we can learn from the mistakes of Iraq rather than getting into a dick waving match about who was right then and who was wrong. If you’re still arguing Iraq was necessary than we got a problem but if we came to the conclusion it was a mistake at different points, that’s not a big isuse to me.
2014:
“The impacts of climate change may cause instability in other countries by impairing access to food and water, damaging infrastructure, spreading disease, uprooting and displacing large numbers of people, compelling mass migration, interrupting commercial activity, or restricting electricity availability,” the Pentagon writes. “These developments could undermine already-fragile governments that are unable to respond effectively or challenge currently-stable governments, as well as increasing competition and tension between countries vying for limited resources. These gaps in governance can create an avenue for extremist ideologies and conditions that foster terrorism.”
newsweek.com
re: #48 The Vicious Babushka
I thought you said you had better things to do than live-tweet the debate, you stupid little fucker
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And Ben’s evangelical friends want to evangelize them.
re: #58 The Vicious Babushka
Hillary has the foreign policy chops
One would hope, after being SoS for years.
re: #51 Charles Johnson
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Yep, that’s what shitheads like Shapiro who are mocking him for this don’t want to see becaues they have their heads up their assholes. I’ll also point out that these are the same guys that are awfully silent when Evangelicals blame secularism and gays for violent attacks.
re: #43 Targetpractice
We get it, Bernie, you voted against Iraq and she voted for it. MOVE ON!
Hell I’m a lifelong Dem and at the time I backed going into Iraq I got caught up in all the rhetoric, but a year or so later I changed my mind. I can’t blame Hillary for doing the same thing I did.
Conservaties mocking Bernie Sanders for linking climate change to terrorism might want to read this: https://t.co/uDUXDUe5ON
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) November 15, 2015
“Is the world too dangerous a place for a governor with no foreign policy experience?”
As opposed to a surgeon, a failed CEO, a partially failed CEO…
re: #61 Tigger2
Hell I’m a lifelong Dem and at the time I backed going into Iraq I got caught up in all the rhetoric, but a year or so later I changed my mind. I can’t Blame Hillary for doing the same thing.
I was against it however as I said a lot of good people made that mistake.
re: #58 The Vicious Babushka
Hillary has the foreign policy chops
I’ve got the pork chops, she’s got the pie
She ain’t no angel and neither am I
— Bob Dylan, “Thunder on the Mountain”
;-)
O’Malley making the case that we’re bad at nation building.
That’s correct.
re: #65 GlutenFreeJesus
O’Malley. Wow. He’s nailing this.
I like him quite a bit honestly. He’s got some warts but he’s also got some things I really like too.
Fuck, we’re going to go to war in Syria, aren’t we? We’re gonna send kids in there to get chewed up. Goddamit. #DemDebate
— Patton Oswalt (@pattonoswalt) November 15, 2015
re: #67 freetoken
O’Malley making the case that we’re bad at nation building.
That’s correct.
Hillary Clinton devastates her campaign by pointing out that- gasp- plans don’t always work!
Marco Rubio gets the smackdown he deserves. The CBS moderator desperately wants her to say she’s at war with Islam, but she isn’t that fucking stupid.
Conservatives are going to jump all over Hillary’s ‘Radical Islam’ response.
Good GOD, this moderator is getting on my nerves with his disdain for understanding adversaries and having empathy with one’s enemies.
Bernie’s guys did a hell of a job making sure that foreign policy wasn’t brought up here at this debate.
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Isn’t this the sort of moderation that the GOP started whining about just two debates ago? Think the DNC is gonna pout and declare they won’t do any more debates with CBS after tonight?
Ooof, can’t be good for Bernie when O’Malley has a higher percentage of people talking about him on Twitter at the moment. I realize its such a small metric, but that’s still a bit of a doozy.
+++ To both Sanders and Clinton for making it clear that this isn’t about Islam but about using religion as a weapon.
— Amanda Marcotte (@AmandaMarcotte) November 15, 2015
re: #74 Brian J.
Good GOD, this moderator is getting on my nerves with his disdain for understanding adversaries and having empathy with one’s enemies.
This moderator is an idiot. Not to put too fine a point on it.
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) November 15, 2015
I don’t think Hillary is wearing a wig. If she is, that’s a damn good wig. I want that wig.
Bernie’s being irrelevant and inaccurate about nuclear weapons. I’m starting to see why his staffers were so dismayed at the format change.
re: #85 The Vicious Babushka
I don’t think Hillary is wearing a wig. If she is, that’s a damn good wig. I want that wig.
We’ll all be forced to wear a wig like that when she becomes POTUS.
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re: #73 teleskiguy
Conservatives are going to jump all over Hillary’s ‘Radical Islam’ response.
Called it.
Wow. @HillaryClinton refuses to acknowledge fight radical Islam #DemDebate
— Sean Spicer (@seanspicer) November 15, 2015
re: #85 The Vicious Babushka
I don’t think Hillary is wearing a wig. If she is, that’s a damn good wig. I want that wig.
Shit, all it takes is an in-house hairdresser.
Notice how the moderator pivots straight to “refugees” from saying terrorism.
This is slick and quite wrong.
“Let me ask you a question from Twitter.”
Let me get my barf bag.
Yes, we are at war with radical Islamic terrorism. #DemDebate
— Jeb Bush (@JebBush) November 15, 2015
re: #94 teleskiguy
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Jeb, when we need more American civilians killed, we’ll call your family. Don’t wait up.
re: #94 teleskiguy
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and he can’t even get that wingnut softball right by adding the word terrorism on the end.
Right wing journalism exists in an alternate universe where climate change is a “hoax,” and 98% of the world’s scientists are evil liars.
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) November 15, 2015
You know O’Malley wants to whip out his banjo and sing “The Minstrel Boy.”
I dares ya to, Martin me boy.
re: #90 teleskiguy
Called it.
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@seanspicer @HillaryClinton No she didn’t she said we should fight the Terrorist using Islam as a cover. You to stupid to see that.
— jim (@jlcoffeecup) November 15, 2015
Again, notice how easy it was to link “refugees” to the murders in Paris.
One of the candidates should have called the moderator on this
re: #100 The Vicious Babushka
Hillary is winning this one.
Hillary is in her comfort zone with foreign policy questions. Pleae enjoy this photo of the Brisco brothers pic.twitter.com/hXeBtv6xIY
— pourmecoffee (@pourmecoffee) November 15, 2015
And hate ad runs during the commercial break.
re: #104 teleskiguy
I believe the one of the left still works with WWE.
re: #104 teleskiguy
And those are bodies pre PEDs.
Yes but Dickerson repeated the GOP talking point that “If you don’t call it what it is then how can you fight it.” https://t.co/2lfcud9GgX
— Keith Boykin (@keithboykin) November 15, 2015
Corrupt snake-handling preacher sez wut?
You’re all grown up now. You can do it. Three words. Ten syllables. Say it with me: “Radical Islamic terrorism.” #DemDebate
— Gov. Mike Huckabee (@GovMikeHuckabee) November 15, 2015
Honestly, asking about using the words “radical islam” is like doing an attack ad for the GOP.
— Michael Cohen (@speechboy71) November 15, 2015
re: #111 jaunte
CBS is in this for the ratings. Nothing less.
Bernie Sanders will go to the mat for the middle class, like The Rockers pic.twitter.com/ez4jARw1Ha
— pourmecoffee (@pourmecoffee) November 15, 2015
re: #42 The Vicious Babushka
Wow he has no idea how ignorant he is.
re: #101 De Kolta Chair
You know O’Malley wants to whip out his banjo and sing “The Minstrel Boy.”
I dares ya to, Martin me boy.
re: #113 teleskiguy
Those bodies are via PEDs. Off the PED they lost muscle.
I guess that they can’t say that a lot of infrastructure investment by borrowing more money, but its true.
Nice line there from Sanders- not as socialist as Eisenhower. He’s doing better now that they’ve returned to his economic sweet spot.
re: #110 teleskiguy
Corrupt snake-handling preacher sez wut?
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Can you say it with me “Terrorist using Islam as a cover” Terrorist kill more Muslims then anyone else.
re: #118 Big Beautiful Door
I guess that they can’t say that a lot of infrastructure investment by borrowing more money, but its true.
They should. Justin Trudeau said it, won a majority, and is now more popular than hockey in Canada.
re: #122 Brian J.
They should. Justin Trudeau said it, won a majority, and is now more popular than hockey in Canada.
Yes, but he’s dreamy./
Bernie: I’m not as much of a socialist as Dwight D. Eisenhower.
Actually, Hillary, the ACA is a right wing idea modified by a Democratic congress.
Truman would have been more for national health care.
Why are we getting another commercial break with flashbacks to fifteen minutes ago?
Of course. Because CBS SUX.
Carly will outsource all the terrorism!
We need a President who will see and speak and act on the truth…Hillary Clinton will not call this Islamic terrorism. I will.
— Carly Fiorina (@CarlyFiorina) November 15, 2015
They’re all over it like flies on shit.
We need a President who will see and speak and act on the truth…Hillary Clinton will not call this Islamic terrorism. I will.
— Carly Fiorina (@CarlyFiorina) November 15, 2015
Maybe I should go heat up a burrito in the microwave… I doubt we are going to see much more happen in this show.
11 seconds! Alouette, we do this more often than not!
:-D
re: #133 teleskiguy
Hillary Clinton will not call this Islamic terrorism. I will.
Carly’s just panderiffic.
re: #120 Poligeek
Gawd, I miss Bobby Heenan and Gorilla Monsoon.
Oh, stop it with the Twitter analysis you twits! Twitter doesn’t represent your average voter!
re: #131 The Vicious Babushka
Carly will outsource all the terrorism!
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You probably would but you also backed a fake video as real but that doesn’t make either one true.
Immigrant Bashing Carnival Barker
Meh
re: #142 Big Beautiful Door
O’Malley telling truth
Be nice if someone would generalize and point out what a waste of time it has been to “negotiate” with Republicans. On anything.
Our symbol is the statue of liberty, not a barbed wire fence. Great line
“Immigrant-bashing carnival barker Donald Trump.”
Right on!
re: #139 KGxvi
Gawd, I miss Bobby Heenan and Gorilla Monsoon.
Fabulous FreebirdsRBS
re: #139 KGxvi
You and me both.. I play old clips of them for my other half all the time to show her how great they were. Also the old Dibiase “Everybody Has A Price” intro clips because honestly, they were hilarious. Paying the pool guy to clear out the public pool so he can swim alone.. offering the little kid $100 to dribble a ball 10 times only to have Virgil kick it out on the 9th dribble. Vince McMahon is REALLY good at making heels look like, well, heels.
re: #121 Tigger2
Can you say it with me “Terrorist using Islam as a cover” Terrorist kill more Muslims then anyone else.
Islam is not just a cover, though. It is a repugnant and Medieval interpretation of Islam that provides motivation for change and an explanation for an unjust and inequitable world. The terrorists are not just window shopping for a cover. They are shopping for meaning and a lens to see and interpret the world, including the rise of liberal Western democracies and the failure of the former Caliphate in the Ottoman Empire.
Ultra orthodoxy has been the go to explanation in all of the Abrahamic faiths for people who feel victimized by globalization, mass media and (this cannot be over emphasized) lack of respect.
The lack of a central interpretive authority in Islam makes this sort of thing easy to grow, since adherents to Daesh can just as easily call everyone else apostate (and they do) when other Muslims say that Daesh is insane and evil.
re: #141 Tigger2
You probably would but you also backed a fake video as real that doesn’t make either one true.
There is no video more horrible than this one:
re: #135 freetoken
Maybe I should go heat up a burrito in the microwave… I doubt we are going to see much more happen in this show.
Good of O’Malley to introduce some facts about immigration numbers.
re: #135 freetoken
Maybe I should go heat up a burrito in the microwave… I doubt we are going to see much more happen in this show.
Leave the tinfoil on the burrito and you’ll really enjoy the show.
“Fact check me. Check me hard. Research me deep. Goddamit, pull my hair and vet the FUCK out of me.” #DemDebate
— Patton Oswalt (@pattonoswalt) November 15, 2015
Dammit, Bernie! You were doing so well until you called U6 the “real” unemployment rate. Now we’ll never hear the end of it.
re: #159 Brian J.
Dammit, Bernie! You were doing so well until you called U6 the “real” unemployment rate. Now we’ll never hear the end of it.
U6 does give useful info. And its nearly back down to the prerecession average of 8.9%.
re: #149 Poligeek
You and me both.. I play old clips of them for my other half all the time to show her how great they were. Also the old Dibiase “Everybody Has A Price” intro clips because honestly, they were hilarious. Paying the pool guy to clear out the public pool so he can swim alone.. offering the little kid $100 to dribble a ball 10 times only to have Virgil kick it out on the 9th dribble. Vince McMahon is REALLY good at making heels look like, well, heels.
Vince may be an asshole and a dick, like his buddy Trump, but he knows two things very, very well: his audience and how to market to them in order to extract as much money as possible from them.
So how’s the debate going? Boyfriend has an NBA game on and we just finished dinner.
re: #160 Big Beautiful Door
U6 does give useful info. And its nearly back down to the prerecession average of 8.9%.
The problem I have is that for the next year, every Republican and “mainstream” journalist is gonna be yelping that “even the Democrats claim the real unemployment rate is 10 percent when it was below 5 under Bush!”
re: #162 Lidane
So how’s the debate going? Boyfriend has an NBA game on and we just finished dinner.
As usual, good substance, unlike GOP debates
“Needz moar huge total bullshit.” — Donald Trump’s intern
re: #163 Brian J.
The problem I have is that for the next year, every Republican and “mainstream” journalist is gonna be yelping that “even the Democrats claim the real unemployment rate is 10 percent when it was below 5 under Bush!”
Meaning they will lie, which they were going to do anyway
re: #165 De Kolta Chair
“Needz moar huge total bullshit.” — Donald Trump
Here’s yet another ad break. Will that be close enough?
re: #148 Reality Based Steve
There’s talk they may make the WWE “Hall of Fame” this year. Mostly because Wrestlemania is in Dallas and they were based in Texas. Plus Stone Cold Steve Austin is apparently threatening to no show Wrestlemania if they’re not inducted. The problem is, they were rather racist - like they wore Southern Cross face paint in a big match in Chicago.
re: #149 Poligeek
When they want to do it, they can be damn good at that stuff. But I do think it’s a combination of the bookers and the wrestler that make it work. Because they’ve had a ton of failures too.
I don’t really care for O’Malley he seems kind of smug to me.
O’Malley went for the Wall Street connection with Hillary. “That’s not fair,” she replied.
@MagnificoIX Wrong. I’ve always been an advocate for science, and in fact this was a major reason for my public break with the right.
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) November 15, 2015
Good lord…. they are having more commercial breaks than the old late nite movie on the UHF channels on a saturday night.
RBS
re: #170 Tigger2
I don’t really care for O’Malley he seems kind of smug to me.
He won’t be the nominee, but at least he isn’t setting his hair on fire for attention like GOP nominees do.
re: #167 Brian J.
Here’s yet another ad break. Will that be close enough?
“Selling things, that’s how we roll, bizotches.” — President Dwight D. Eisenhower, “Operation Wetback”
I really like them all.
Such a huge difference from the lightweight social conservative bullshit.
The House will stay Republican in 2016. Even if by some weird way Bernie Sanders wins the election, he will not be able to pass any of his proposed legislation. Any. Of. It.
re: #174 Stanley Sea Toujours
I like him!
It’s probable just me, we had a mayor like him once and I couldn’t stand him.
re: #176 De Kolta Chair
“Selling things, that’s how we roll, bizocthes.” — President Dwight D. Eisenhower, “Project Wetback”
I think I’ve mentioned before that my father never cared for Ike, because of his unwillingness to call out Taillgunner Joe. Of course, this is a retrospective opinion, as my dad was 10 and living in another country when Ike left office.
OT, I went to see Specter last night. it plays like they took an Austin Powers script and played it straight.
Hillary is pointing out how many Wall Streeters want her taken down. Of course, she can’t very well point out the story behind the name of Citizens United (Not Timid) on network television.
Hillary Clinton just praised a real, actual, universally well-regarded economist for being an expert on the minimum wage.
— Daniel Drezner (@dandrezner) November 15, 2015
Professor Krueger served as Chairman of President Barack Obama’s Council of Economic Advisers and a Member of his Cabinet from November 2011 to August 2013. He also served as Assistant Secretary for Economic Policy and Chief Economist of the U.S. Department of the Treasury in 2009-10, and as Chief Economist at the U.S. Department of Labor in 1994-95. krueger.princeton.edu
re: #181 Big Beautiful Door
OT, I went to see Specter last night. it plays like they took an Austin Powers script and played it straight.
I saw it last weekend. I’ll just say that it’s a long movie that feels like a long movie.
RBS
This debate is for those few hardy Democratic party member Iowans who will wander out some cold winter night to sit in a small room.
Supposedly.
But I’m not sure this debate so far is really speaking to the concerns of the local populace. Sure, they are at a college and the college crowd will cheer for this or that.
I suspect most Iowans, even Democrats (and I know a few), simply want to feel safe at home and believe they will have a job tomorrow.
Wow he is such a stupid fucker==>
Why stop at a $15/hr minimum wage? Reach for the stars guys! How about $50, $100, $200+ an hour?! #DemDebate
— Gov. Mike Huckabee (@GovMikeHuckabee) November 15, 2015
re: #186 The Vicious Babushka
Wow he is such a stupid fucker==>
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If its bad, why not make people pay in order to work? Huh, huh?
re: #186 The Vicious Babushka
He’s making the argument of someone who resents paying anything at all for labor.
re: #186 The Vicious Babushka
So then, he’s in favor of more welfare/food stamp benefits, then?
re: #186 The Vicious Babushka
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@GovMikeHuckabee How about you piss off. Jesus wouldn’t like you slighting the poor.
— jim (@jlcoffeecup) November 15, 2015
re: #190 KGxvi
So then, he’s in favor of more welfare/food stamp benefits, then?
Are there no prisons? Are there no work houses?
A new Glass-Steagall can’t pass Congress
re: #180 Brian J.
I think I’ve mentioned before that my father never cared for Ike, because of his unwillingness to call out Taillgunner Joe. Of course, this is a retrospective opinion, as my dad was 10 and living in another country when Ike left office.
Like my old man (two years a Marine in the Korean Conflict, 25 years an Air Force NCO) always said about Ike — during WWII, a genius; during his presidency, not so bright.
re: #41 Charles Johnson
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Droughts led farmers to Damascus to seek relief. Anti-Assad groups seized on this. Climate change indeed had a role to play.
Bernie is better at mud wrestling than O’Malley.
re: #186 The Vicious Babushka
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By that measure, Huck, why have a minimum wage at all? If a business wants to pay its employees in company pay chits, why shouldn’t it be able to?
What, no ad break for the subject change?
Gun time. Hillary doing a fine job of putting the costs of our gun addiction to the public. No need to castigate Bernie at length (again).
re: #199 Targetpractice
By that measure, Huck, why have a minimum wage at all? If a business wants to pay its employees in company pay chits, why shouldn’t it be able to?
Huck would probably agree
re: #199 Targetpractice
By that measure, Huck, why have a minimum wage at all? If a business wants to pay its employees in company pay chits, why shouldn’t it be able to?
re: #190 KGxvi
So then, he’s in favor of more welfare/food stamp benefits, then?
Jesus loved the poor.
Huckabee wants there to be more poor.
Ergo, Huckabee loves Jesus.
Sorry, best I can come up with.
re: #195 De Kolta Chair
Like my old man (two years as a Marine in the Korean Conflict, 25 years an Air Force NCO) always said about Ike — during WWII, a genius; during his presidency, not so bright.
Still, Ike did and said some things right (the interstate highway system, the transition of the NACA into NASA, his comments on the military-industrial complex, etc.)
The Democrats don’t realize or recognize how afraid the #ParisAttacks have made the country. We are not the same country today. #DemDebate
— Frank Luntz (@FrankLuntz) November 15, 2015
Because fear mongers won’t talk about fact more Americans die from gunshots every 48 hours … that’s real threat. https://t.co/zcPhaCjD7s
— Col. Morris Davis (@ColMorrisDavis) November 15, 2015
Americans with … less education more likely to say guns protect more education more likely to say guns endanger pic.twitter.com/ZnBXXp9ZEj
— Conrad Hackett (@conradhackett) November 15, 2015
re: #204 TedStriker
He also overthrew Iran (Operation TPAJAX)
re: #206 FormerDirtDart
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Speak for yourself, Frankie. Here we laissez les bon temps rouler as we’ll demonstrate on Saturday!
Dear God, I hope we do…
re: #204 TedStriker
Still, Ike did and said some things right (the interstate highway system, the military-industrial complex, the transition of the NACA into NASA, etc.)
Reagan did some good things with a Democratic Congress as well. ;-)
re: #210 Eric The Fruit Bat
He also overthrew Iran (Operation TPAJAX)
This is true.
That said, give me the name of a President that didn’t have a major fuckup and/or a moment of national shame during their term(s) (hint: they’re exceedingly few and far between).
re: #206 FormerDirtDart
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@FrankLuntz Then you are letting the Terrorist win. You are more likely to be killed by a crazy person with a gun then an Terrorist.
— jim (@jlcoffeecup) November 15, 2015
re: #212 Aunty Entity Dragon
I meant in the debate hall.
I’m not sure if the debate hall represents the actual Democratic grunts who will turn out in the dark winter night in Iowa.
Holy crap, reading snarky tweets live at candidates? I’m a strong no on that as well.
— David Roberts (@drvox) November 15, 2015
re: #186 The Vicious Babushka
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Goddamn you’re an idiot Mike. Here’s an idea. How about you get off your ass and work one of those jobs and tell me that they don’t deserve to be paid a fair wage you pathetic asshole.
I reiterate my thought from earlier that, if the GOP faced as hostile a moderation team as the DNC is tonight, they’d have flipped their fucking lids.
re: #220 teleskiguy
My feeling is that this debate “moderation” isn’t that much better than the GOP debates.
Oh Jeez, O’Malley. We know how to find yer fuggin website.
You really wanna hear scary? This is scary
I had a nightmare where Footloose was rebooted as many times as Spiderman.
— Michael J Nelson (@michaeljnelson) November 14, 2015
re: #222 Targetpractice
I reiterate my thought from earlier that, if the GOP faced as hostile a moderation team as the DNC is tonight, they’d have flipped their fucking lids.
They did flip their lids and then they started working the refs. Like a Geico commercial…it’s what they do.
Twittersourced questions. How much are the moderators being paid?
re: #110 teleskiguy
Corrupt snake-handling preacher sez wut?
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When it comes to ol HUCK SINN I have four words to say to that ass!
“Wayne Dumond Maurice Clemmons”…
re: #223 freetoken
My feeling is that this debate “moderation” isn’t that much better than the GOP debates.
Reading live tweets from randos is, um, suboptimal moderation. In the way that screen doors on submarines are suboptimal ship design.
Why is CBS showing me a countdown clock with 10 millisecond units??
re: #220 teleskiguy
that could be fun in a GOP debate
That one guy moderating I don’t know his name but I don’t like his Sunday show all I see him do is suck up to the Republicans most of the time.
re: #229 Joe Bacon
When it comes to ol HUCK SINN I have four words to say to that ass!
“Wayne Dumond Maurice Clemmons”…
But they told me they were good Christians. //
re: #231 freetoken
Why is CBS showing me a countdown clock with 10 millisecond units??
Because NORAD is about to nuke CBS for being incompetent dumbasses in holding this debate. You are seeing time to MIRV arrival.
re: #233 Tigger2
That one guy moderating I don’t know his name but I don’t like his Sunday show all I see him do is suck up to the Republicans most of the time.
Toad err Todd?
re: #232 KGxvi
that could be fun in a GOP debate
I’d love to see those whiny, safe-space-loving dilettantes reacting to one of your tweets.
I wonder if CBS knows that if my local gravitational field is different than at Drake university then my time experience is different?
re: #221 HappyWarrior
Goddamn you’re an idiot Mike. Here’s an idea. How about you get off your ass and work one of those jobs and tell me that they don’t deserve to be paid a fair wage you pathetic asshole.
And his Great Tax Plan for a 30% sales tax. When asked if this won’t stifle economic activity he just said HURR HURR NOTHING WILL STOP AMERICANS FROM SPENDING MONEY!!!!
One thing that will stop people from spending money is NOT HAVING MONEY you shitnozzle.
The last Doctor Who episode was the strangest ever. I am still trying to figure it out. Going to have to watch it a few times.
re: #150 Aunty Entity Dragon
It’s worse than that.
Because the Islamic World in the Medieval Era was far ahead of where it is now. Heck, as recently as the Grant Administration, it was was leaps ahead of now.
I actually think Dickerson is doing a good job. Yes, he has asked some questions that might as well be from the GOP…but the candidates are handling them very well. Score. Can’t be described as a Dem Love Fest!
Also…Hillary is kicking ass.
re: #243 jaunte
The man has always been nasty. His sons lynched a dog, and he helped them avoid any punishment.
re: #228 jaunte
Twittersourced questions. How much are the moderators being paid?
If it’s some intern who has to wade through endless tcot derp in order to dredge up network-TV-acceptable questions, they aren’t being paid enough.
Sanders is engaging in Green Lantern Leadership will change that wishful thinking.
re: #238 Brian J.
I’m not on twitter, but if I was, they wouldn’t be able to use any of my tweets, unless they did something like this:
Bernie Sanders believes in the Green Lantern theory of Presidential campaigning. Evidence in favor of the hypothesis that he’s not really out there to win. And Howard Dean, from his state, is evidence of the folly of leaning on the young for the bulk of your support.
And here comes Bernie’s blather to the WSJ about those damn emails. Followed by the pretzels no doubt.
Listening to Bernie with my eyes closed. I picture George Steinbrenner on Seinfeld. :D
re: #241 The Vicious Babushka
And his Great Tax Plan for a 30% sales tax. When asked if this won’t stifle economic activity he just said HURR HURR NOTHING WILL STOP AMERICANS FROM SPENDING MONEY!!!!
One thing that will stop people from spending money is NOT HAVING MONEY you shitnozzle.
No kidding. His sales tax would greatly discourage consumption. Huckabee is a moron pure and simple.
re: #250 GlutenFreeJesus
Listening to Bernie with my eyes closed. I picture George Steinbrenner on Seinfeld. :D
It’s funny because Steinbrenner IRL wasn’t from New York at all.
re: #245 The War TARDIS
The man has always been nasty. His sons lynched a dog, and he helped them avoid any punishment.
Yep and he has the nerve to question the parenting skills of President and Mrs. Obama. He’s also a pedophila apologist.
@GovMikeHuckabee Why don’t you just admit that the real God you worship is Ayn Rand?
— josephebacon (@josephebacon) November 15, 2015
Take of it what you will.
“@jcooper75: #DemDebate this debate stinks. CBS News, major fail. @realDonaldTrump”
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) November 15, 2015
re: #242 The War TARDIS
Ok, now I’m looking forward to Doctor Who showing up on my feed tonight/tomorrow morning. This isn’t the “Doctor only” episode, is it?
Hillary Clinton making a passionate plea for unity. The hall is loving it.
re: #256 teleskiguy
Take of it what you will.
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You know Donald, it’s funny when Statler and Waldorf do this because they’re actually funny and witty, you meanwhile are about as fun and witty as the shits I take after having too much Taco Bell.
re: #245 The War TARDIS
The man has always been nasty. His sons lynched a dog, and he helped them avoid any punishment.
But he is folksy and plays guitar with Ted Nugent and he believes in redemption stories that comfort me and reinforce my cultural assumptions!
re: #261 Aunty Entity Dragon
But he is folksy and plays guitar with Ted Nugent and he believes in redemption stories that comfort me and reinforce my cultural assumptions!
He’s friends with Chuck Norris, Chuck Norris~
re: #257 KGxvi
No. It is the Found Footage one.
This episode may be the beginning of the end for Clara.
Next week is definitely the start of her departure.
Either her or the Doctor are the hybrid that was mentioned at the beginning of the season.
50/50 each way.
I liked how O’Malley slurred his words and said “Amerijuana”
These candidates have to start questioning the questions.
Not only does that often work in these “debates”, but in this case of “race relations” there is so much implied that may be wrong that the candidates really need to deconstruct the moderator’s presumptions.
re: #256 teleskiguy
Take of it what you will.
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@realDonaldTrump @jcooper75 @realDonaldTrump Your comment is as much of a joke as the Republican debate was.
— jim (@jlcoffeecup) November 15, 2015
re: #266 De Kolta Chair
I liked how O’Malley slurred his words and said “Amerijuana”
That’ll be the biggest national brand when Congress finally legalizes it.
re: #256 teleskiguy
@realDonaldTrump @jcooper75 they are actually addressing issues, and not waving their genitals around. Can’t wait 4 u 2 disappear next year.
— efuseakay (@efuseakay) November 15, 2015
re: #264 The War TARDIS
The Doctor is a hybrid? Is that a reference to the TV movie with 8?
ETA: also, let’s be honest, as long as MOFFAT!! (shakes fist) is involved, anyone can be the hybrid until it’s actually shown who the hybrid is.
@CarlyFiorina Yes and you’ll also outsource the job to Putin and then stiff him on the reimbursement!
— josephebacon (@josephebacon) November 15, 2015
re: #270 GlutenFreeJesus
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He won’t disappear but at least we’ll know he’ll never be president.
re: #271 KGxvi
Way back in the story line many Doctors ago, it was revealed that is father was a Time Lord. Implied was that his mother may not have been.
re: #273 HappyWarrior
He will be so mad that he lost a competition he will go into exile.
re: #274 freetoken
yeah, I think that was in the TV movie that was meant as a relaunch in the 90s with the Eighth Doctor
Hillary being asked about the activism at Missouri. Again, one minute isn’t really enough time to describe the world of protest in any depth, but she’s doing well. Hard to miss the number of shooting victims whose families she’s met with.
re: #275 GlutenFreeJesus
He will be so mad that he lost a competition he will go into exile.
I hope like hell you’re right. I’ve always hated this fuckwad.
The Islamic Terrorism/Radical Islam thing is all conservatives are going to talk about for the next news cycle or two.
Why won’t President Obama use the term Islamic Terrorism? Isn’t it now, after all of this time and so much death, about time!
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) November 15, 2015
re: #279 teleskiguy
The Islamic Terrorism/Radical Islam thing is all conservatives are going to talk about for the next news cycle or two.
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re: #279 teleskiguy
The Islamic Terrorism/Radical Islam thing is all conservatives are going to talk about for the next news cycle or two.
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Has it actually been established that any Islamic entity was behind the murders in Paris, or is The Donald still talking out of The Ass?
Really stupid wingnuts are obsessed with words and that shit. Meanwhile President Obama has a much better actual record on terrorism than Jeb’s brother.
re: #279 teleskiguy
The Islamic Terrorism/Radical Islam thing is all conservatives are going to talk about for the next news cycle or two.
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re: #282 HappyWarrior
Words are Magickal, as I keep asserting.
re: #279 teleskiguy
As far as they know, all they have to do is loudly condemn Islamic Terrorism, then go clear brush while someone else figures it out.
re: #271 KGxvi
I am not sure if the Doctor, or Clara is the hybrid.
It could go either way.
We do know know that Gallifrey comes back for the finale, and the Doctor has become unmoored for it as well.
Ashildr, the Judoon, and Rigsy from Flatline return for this one.
re: #274 freetoken
That was actually made non-canon.
I don’t think they mean literally. The Doctor has been told before that he would be a Good Dalek by Daleks.
And Clara has become like the Doctor in her own right. She has become like a Time Lady.
Honestly, I don’t know which direction this will go down.
thank you Bernie #DemDebate pic.twitter.com/XqPfh8aZdJ
— Ernie Monies (@crushingbort) November 15, 2015
this is getting ugly fast #DemDebate pic.twitter.com/CMHWYEPALE
— Ernie Monies (@crushingbort) November 15, 2015
re: #279 teleskiguy
The Islamic Terrorism/Radical Islam thing is all conservatives are going to talk about for the next news cycle or two.
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I would like to see better context about this issue since no one ever seems to be clear that Islam is a major religion outside of the Middle East as well. Indonesia, Malaysia, Philippines, etc. plus countries in Sub-Sahara Africa as well.
re: #286 The War TARDIS
ah, good to know. I get episodes on iTunes, so I have to wait until usually midnight on the west coast. So I may not get to watch it until tomorrow morning. I suppose I could go back and watch the earlier episodes from this season. But then again, I’ve also started with the Star Wars rewatch I mentioned in the last thread. So much TV to watch.
Disagree with Hillary here. If you means test any benefit…the elites will always characterize it is a hand out to moochers and the Kochs will pay politicians to kill it. If the Trump kids get grants to go to school in order for my kids to get grants…fine. I’m okay with that.
“The revolution never came.” Hear that, Mr. Sanders?
re: #288 Feline Fearless Leader
I would like to see better context about this issue since no one ever seems to be clear that Islam is a major religion outside of the Middle East as well. Indonesia, Malaysia, Philippines, etc. plus countries in Sub-Sahara Africa as well.
Bosnia and Albania too. A lot of Americans wrongfully see Muslim and Arab as interchangeable.Oh and don’t forget about Western China as well.
Sanders can see Canada from his front porch!
— David Roberts (@drvox) November 15, 2015
Bernie, there’s your vaunted health care plan crumbling. Medicare for All means putting it in the hands of state governments. Bobby Jindal in charge of my health care? Just kill me now.
Matrin O’Malley is fucking HAMLET compared to Clown Trump
Hillary and Sanders are not doing well, but what is the failed former Mayor of Baltimore doing on that stage? O’Malley is a clown.
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) November 15, 2015
I want to see this machine breaking down if the alternative is another ad break.
re: #292 Brian J.
“The revolution never came.” Hear that, Mr. Sanders?
The only time we ever came close was in the 1930’s. A progressive social revolution has never come close since.
Wow. Much Classy. Very leadership. So President.
Hillary and Sanders are not doing well, but what is the failed former Mayor of Baltimore doing on that stage? O’Malley is a clown.
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) November 15, 2015
re: #300 teleskiguy
Wow. Much Classy. Very leadership. So President.
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re: #288 Feline Fearless Leader
I would like to see better context about this issue since no one ever seems to be clear that Islam is a major religion outside of the Middle East as well. Indonesia, Malaysia, Philippines, etc. plus countries in Sub-Sahara Africa as well.
Also, “lower” Thailand, Pakistan and the Central Asian states — including far western China.
re: #296 The Vicious Babushka
Matrin O’Malley is fucking HAMLET compared to Clown Trump
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It’s going to be so funny when he loses and throws the most epic temper tantrum of all time.
Not to knock Senator Sanders, but as a longtime Willy Brandt-inspired democratic socialist, I’d like to hear a lot more about democratic socialism from Bernie tonight. Dude, you’re on national television — Preach it, brother man!
10 seconds! Aaargh!
I’m like Jerry when he goes “Newman!” whenever that happens.
Edit: I’m looking at it, it was way more than 10 seconds. Math is hard.
re: #303 HappyWarrior
It’s going to be so funny when he loses and throws the most epic temper tantrum of all time.
It will be the Greatest of all the Great temper tantrums.
re: #303 HappyWarrior
It’s going to be so funny when he loses and throws the most epic temper tantrum of all time.
The pressure’s already getting to him, as evidenced by his 95-minute rant this week. And if you’re lucky, Trumpy Dumpy, you’ve got just under a year of this to go!
Apparently, the next episode will have a huge shock, that will continue into the following 2 episodes.
And Heaven Sent may include a monster from the Sarah Jane adventures. The Veil. It is mentioned as being in the episode.
Does this mean we might find out what has happened to Sarah Jane Smith?
re: #302 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate
Also, “lower” Thailand, Pakistan and the Central Asian states — including far western China.
Yep.
re: #305 De Kolta Chair
They’re in Iowa.
And even the Democrats in Iowa have guns (I know from personal experience.)
So Bernie might fit in ok there, but I don’t expect him to go off on lectures about Socialism.
re: #271 KGxvi
The Doctor is a hybrid? Is that a reference to the TV movie with 8?
ETA: also, let’s be honest, as long as MOFFAT!! (shakes fist) is involved, anyone can be the hybrid until it’s actually shown who the hybrid is.
And when we find out who, we’ll find clues in nearly every episode.
re: #308 Tigger2
It will be the Greatest of all Great temper tantrums.
It will be buuuuuuuge and Mexico will pay for it!
re: #306 Aunty Entity Dragon
Every time I see that actor doing the Farmer’s commercials, I think of him in this…
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The most well deserved Oscar ever.
re: #300 teleskiguy
Wow. Much Classy. Very leadership. So President.
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Thinnest of all potential President skins.
re: #313 Belafon
And when we find out who, we’ll find clues in nearly every episode.
See, that’s the thing about last season’s bit reveal…I saw through it in the first episode of the season.
I never cared for this job interview question, about how you handled a crisis.
re: #312 freetoken
They’re in Iowa.
And even the Democrats in Iowa have guns (I know from personal experience.)
So Bernie might fit in ok there, but I don’t expect him to go off on lectures about Socialism.
I’m no ideologue, but that’s sorta sad, really.
re: #313 Belafon
One other thing.
Moffat has said that Clara no longer thinks of the Earth as her home anymore.
She has run away from home, to see the universe.
Does that sound like someone else in the show?
re: #320 De Kolta Chair
I’m no ideologue, but that’s sorta sad, really.
This is America.
We’re Capitalists.
We love guns.
That’s the short of it.
re: #321 The War TARDIS
Well, she did enter the Doctor’s timeline, so all bets are kind of off with her.
Wow. CBS ran an ad from the far right anti-immigration group Numbers USA during the Democratic debate. What. The Fuck.
— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) November 15, 2015
As the old white Protestant hegemony fades we will see American politics change.
Over decades.
Well then O’Malley that makes me pick Hillary because she has had experience with all you said.
@pattonoswalt @CBS coming over now with my bag of peyote
— Matt Oswalt (@puddinstrip) November 15, 2015
re: #315 De Kolta Chair
The most well deserved Oscar ever.
I could damned hear the molecules of air heating up and frying in his hands every time he motioned for the band to stop in practice. My God, that man has presence on stage.
THIS FUCKSTICK==>
.@HillaryClinton takes credit for Bin Laden but won’t accept responsibility for Benghazi. #DemDebate
— Gov. Mike Huckabee (@GovMikeHuckabee) November 15, 2015
re: #326 freetoken
we’ve had an amazing ability to make people who weren’t “white” in one decade into “whites” in the next couple.
Nice for Sanders to demonstrate that he really does understand how the legislative process works. For once, he turned a bad question to his advantage.
Martin, we knowthat you have a damn website, and the only reason you’re not “polarizing” is that no one cares what the hell you do.
Hillary won the “what did you do in a crisis?” question
O’Malley: I was governor. Bernie: I passed VA legislation. Hillary: BIN LADEN: ICED. Not quite a fair question.
— Liberal Librarian (@Lib_Librarian) November 15, 2015
re: #331 KGxvi
Well, we got rid of the “mulatto” category anyway.
Moderators didn’t broach the subject of climate change at all.
Hillary once again had this debate won before she set foot on stage, and once again refused to be content with playing it safe.
@GovMikeHuckabee @HillaryClinton Just like Mike Huckabee won’t accept responsibility for Wayne Dumond and Maurice Clemmons!
— josephebacon (@josephebacon) November 15, 2015
re: #330 The Vicious Babushka
THIS FUCKSTICK==>
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HURR HURR I WAS POOR SO ALL OF YOU MOOCHERS HAS TO BE POORS FOREVER!!!!!
Artificially increasing min wage passes cost to consumer. Grew up poor w a single mom. Was grateful for lower prices. That would disappear.
— Dana Loesch (@DLoesch) November 15, 2015
re: #335 teleskiguy
Moderators didn’t broach the subject of climate change at all.
Not a hot button issue in Iowa.
Hot items in Iowa:
price of corn and pork bellies;
taxes;
health care costs.
Bernie, I feel for you, and I have word from my sources that Vermont still loves ya, but you didn’t have a good night. And that’s 3 for 3 on websites.
re: #334 freetoken
I was thinking more of the way we viewed Italians and the Irish. And even to a certain extent zee Germans.
We don’t need your damn final thoughts, SeeBeeEss. Or commercials for debates three months from now.
re: #339 The Vicious Babushka
HURR HURR I WAS POOR SO ALL OF YOU MOOCHERS HAS TO BE POORS FOREVER!!!!!
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Yes, Dana I am sure your mother loved being paid like shit. And economists have showed that lie about prices repeatedly.
re: #330 The Vicious Babushka
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Give it up fool the majority of Americas aren’t buying that anymore.
I stumbled upon this article while visiting France24’s English site.
How to verify photos and videos on social media networks.
observers.france24.com
Most of here are pretty good at catching the fakes, but you can refer purveyors of fake images to the linked page and hope they can learn something.
Police Investigating After Twitter User Threatens Dearborn In Wake Of Paris… https://t.co/ZJHd91TB3j #detroit pic.twitter.com/jFsKkL8rPB
— Detroit News Now (@detroitnewsnow) November 15, 2015
Senator Sanders’ campaign is the wake-up call that Secretary Clinton’s campaign needed, and she’s handling it quite well. She’s no fool/she’s been to school.
re: #347 The Vicious Babushka
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As I said when we found that tweet earlier today, Hamtramck should be asking what they need to do to get more attention.
Bernie is the result of many decades of New Englanders doing education for everyone and on the whole being responsible.
But in some parts of the country the only thing that matters is Je$u$ and whats on the smorgasbord at the local casino.
I know that makes me sound like some urban liberal snob, and maybe I am one, but you can’t force people to buy what they don’t want.
Major Garrett? Like I’d trust anyone who took the Murdoch shilling.
“My website, no my website, no mine” - shorter closing statements
— Lucia Graves (@lucia_graves) November 15, 2015
re: #347 The Vicious Babushka
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Hopefully the idiot who tweeted that asinine remark will get nailed to the wall for being so stupid!
re: #339 The Vicious Babushka
@DLoesch Dana, like me, you grew up when minimum wage bought more than now. Prices have gone up without a matching wage increase.
— Lonnie Mask (@LonnieMask) November 15, 2015
re: #334 freetoken
Well, we got rid of the “mulatto” category anyway.
Only officially. There are some (UpChuck, to name one example) who feel the term is perfectly fine to use in public discourse.
re: #356 The War TARDIS
Life in Prison, no parole.
I am done with Conservative Monsters.
Amen. Throw away the key on that CENSORED!
Of course CBS cares about Twitter hits - that’s a type of rating used by the ratings companies.
Anna Kendrick had a thought on O’Malley. A really mean one.
O’Malley sounds like he’s selling jewelry on the home shopping network. #DemDebate
— Anna Kendrick (@AnnaKendrick47) November 15, 2015
For the record, I didn’t watch the debate, but based on the comments here, I think we should agree, as a nation, to have Jim Ross moderate all future presidential debates, maybe get Jerry Lawler and/or Mike Tennay to also help ask questions?
I think Bernie fucked up by not having BLS statistics at his fingertips during the Miminum Wage questions. For Christ’s sake this is supposed to be his area of expertise!
Raising #MinimumWage DOES NOT CAUSE job loss! #tcot #UniteBlue #DemDebate #FeelTheBern https://t.co/jBouTE39qa
— The Vicious Babushka (@viciousbabushka) November 15, 2015
re: #362 HappyWarrior
eh, economics, like rocket science and physics, requires math… so close enough.
@DLoesch Somebody lives in a LAISSEZ FAIRYLAND!
— josephebacon (@josephebacon) November 15, 2015
re: #339 The Vicious Babushka
HURR HURR I WAS POOR SO ALL OF YOU MOOCHERS HAS TO BE POORS FOREVER!!!!!
Price *were* lower back when Dana was a child. So were wages. There’s this thing called inflation, Dana.
re: #363 The Vicious Babushka
I think Bernie fucked up by not having BLS statistics at his fingertips during the Miminum Wage questions. For Christ’s sake this is supposed to be his area of expertise!
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Yeah he needs to do more to nip this in the butt.
re: #354 Joe Bacon
Hopefully the idiot who tweeted that asinine remark will get nailed to the wall for being so stupid!
Lethal Twitterejection like Chuck.
re: #368 HappyWarrior
That was good.
And I’m Rolling on the floor laughing my ass off because she RETWEETED IT!
re: #351 freetoken
I’ve always lived in the Twin Cities proper and I know a lot of folks from Iowa. When you say that one of the three things they care about is ‘pork bellies’, you do come off as an urban snob. You don’t help your arguments at all by implying that people from Iowa are hicks.
re: #369 The Vicious Babushka
She closed her account.
If Twitter found the right person, she is a member in the military. Her career should be over.
Damnit Bernie
Wow, Bernie Sanders just admitted that the real unemployment rate is 10% (it is actually over 20%) and for African American youth - 51%.
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) November 15, 2015
Lots of pearl clutching tonight.
LIBRULZ REFUSE TO SAY WE’RE AT WAR WITH RADICAL ISLAM! ELEVENTY!
Really? This shit still? Does it really matter that much to the nutters?
re: #373 The Vicious Babushka
Damnit Bernie
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Another good debate. Glad I’m a Dem and have something to be proud of.
re: #371 stpaulbear
I’ve always lived in the Twin Cities proper and I know a lot of folks from Iowa. When you say that one of the three things they care about is ‘pork bellies’, you do come off as an urban snob. You don’t help your arguments at all by implying that people from Iowa are hicks.
My daughter and her husband live in Cedar Rapids, and a girlfriend in college was from Coralville, where her parents taught at U Iowa. So, I know Iowans are not all hicks.
Then again, there is the Buttercow as supporting evidence.
re: #373 The Vicious Babushka
Damnit Bernie
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Okay this is going to come off bad but I don’t care about high youth unemployment. I think kids need to be focused primarily on their education. If they can get a job, that’s great but it’s not a bad thing if a teenager is not working in my opinion.
re: #372 The War TARDIS
She closed her account.
If Twitter found the right person, she is a member in the military. Her career should be over.
Oh Jesus.
re: #373 The Vicious Babushka
Damnit Bernie
Wow, Bernie Sanders just admitted that the real unemployment rate is 10% (it is actually over 20%) and for African American youth - 51%.
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) November 15, 2015
But The Donald has been saying unemployment is actually 40-50%. When you can’t believe The Donald who can you believe???
re: #378 HappyWarrior
Okay this is going to come off bad but I don’t care about high youth unemployment. I think kids need to be focused primarily on their education. If they can get a job, that’s great but it’s not a bad thing if a teenager is not working in my opinion.
The wingnuts get their YOOGE unemployment statistics by counting every teenager from 16-18, stay-at-home moms and retired people.
93 Million unemployed? Sure, if u count high school students, disabled & retired people over 60 #tcot #UniteBlue pic.twitter.com/3AArZuGh9O
— The Vicious Babushka (@viciousbabushka) November 13, 2015
Missouri 20, BYU 16. Hardly the biggest game of the day, but I’m glad to see guys who did the right thing rewarded, however modestly.
Pot v. Kettle
Syria’s Assad blames France for Paris terror attacks
14 November 2015 - 20H45
Syria’s Assad blames France as Arab world condemns Paris attacks
france24.com
BEIRUT (AFP) - Syrian President Bashar al-Assad sought to exploit the Paris attacks for political gain Friday, calling on France to change policies that he says have contributed to the “spread of terrorism”.
Across the Middle East, most Arab governments expressed shock and anger at the gun and bomb assault that left at least 128 people dead.
The Islamic State group, a jihadist organisation that has declared a self-styled “caliphate” across parts of Iraq and Syria, said it carried out the attacks.
In a meeting with a delegation of French lawmakers in Damascus the day after the attack, Assad said France’s “mistaken policies… have contributed to the spread of terrorism”.
Of all the unmitigated gall.
re: #383 Brian J.
Not to mention the people who did the wrong thing get smacked.
BYU is officially affiliated with the central, organized, LDS Church. Which recently banned any child with gay parents from being baptized.
re: #371 stpaulbear
I have many relatives back there.
My point is that agriculture is the major industry of the state and really what drives their entire economy. The inability of all 3 of the candidates tonight to acknowledge the local issues I think is telling. All 3 candidates sounded to me like they are just playing to their bases none of which really are in Iowa.
So yes, I’m a snob, but at least I know what really drives the daily lives of Iowans. But it is hard to speak to the local issues when there are many more Democratic delegates up for grabs in Florida or California or Maryland.
None of the candidates tonight said anything that addresses directly the small business people known as farmers (such as free trade, which at least gets brought up in the GOP debate).
Currently Iowa has very low unemployment, high graduation rates, relatively low crime rates. So the favorite topics of Democratic politicians in large urban areas aren’t really going to be such hot topic, save for maybe health care costs (which were talked about tonight.)
So yes, I’ve become an urban snob in my old age, but I started out life in the middle of fly-over country and I think I can be confident in saying that there is a real gap between the average voter in rural America and the 3 candidates we saw tonight.
re: #382 The Vicious Babushka
The wingnuts get their YOOGE unemployment statistics by counting every teenager from 16-18, stay-at-home moms and retired people.
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Yeah most high school kids aren’t unemployed. And frankly this notion that we need a lower minimum wage so companies can still higher teen workers is crap too. Teens need income too. In fact, I’d say many teens who are working a job are doing so to help their family’s situation out.
re: #385 The War TARDIS
Not to mention the people who did the wrong thing get smacked.
BYU is officially affiliated with the central, organized, LDS Church. Which recently banned any child with gay parents from being baptized.
And I’m absolutely AMAZED about this!
re: #388 Joe Bacon
And I’m absolutely AMAZED about this!
Yeah I heard about that. Great to see that.
re: #10 Big Beautiful Door
Thing is, as I understand it, 8 people conducted the Paris operation. Eight. Stopping that kind of thing is about good intelligence and police work, not military action.
If I was Hollande I’d have the head of DGSI on the carpet for gross incompetence. I’d also be speaking to the Minister of Justice about possible prosecution for said incompetence.
re: #387 HappyWarrior
Yeah most high school kids aren’t unemployed. And frankly this notion that we need a lower minimum wage so companies can still higher teen workers is crap too. Teens need income too. In fact, I’d say many teens who are working a job are doing so to help their family’s situation out.
Or saving for college.
re: #391 Belafon
Or saving for college.
Exactly. Using teen workers as an excuse and make no mistake it is just that an excuse to pay your workers shitty wage is a load of shit.
re: #390 Romantic Heretic
If I was Hollande I’d have the head of DGSI on the carpet for gross incompetence. I’d also be speaking to the Minister of Justice about possible prosecution for said incompetence.
Our intel guys didn’t get any wind of it either. I heard tonight that terrorists have found new online networking tools that are unbreakable and shred messages after a certain amount of time to make them unrecoverable. If intel agencies don’t have the keys from the networking and online meeting sites, we will not be able to get warnings the way we did with AQ ‘chatter’.
re: #386 freetoken
I’m the reverse case: raised in metro New York and then moved to fly-over land after college. I agree with your summation. The three Dems are all urban-oriented, where their voting base is for the most part. But to capture the hearts and minds of the rural voters, they’re going to have to admit the rural voters are there and address their concerns. Sarah Palin was a nasty, vindictive candidate, but her remarks about “real America” resonated with people who view urban Democrats as snooty, ivory-tower types who consider country folks as ignorant rubes and hicks. Whoever wins the nomination is going to have to dispel those feelings somehow, because the GOP winner is for sure going to pull a Palin and tell those rural voters the Democrat hates them.
re: #383 Brian J.
Missouri 20, BYU 16. Hardly the biggest game of the day, but I’m glad to see guys who did the right thing rewarded, however modestly.
Add to that my alma mater the Arizona Wildcats stomping the Utah Utes tonight, it’s been a good night all around for freedom, and for party schools in general. ;-)
Remember All Saturday night debates are an invitation to tweet wrestling tag team photos; have a pleasant evening pic.twitter.com/G3uCvvVcGg
— pourmecoffee (@pourmecoffee) November 15, 2015
Well, that was bizarre.
I just had a spider drop a line from the top shelf of my desk down, right in front of the monitor. No sooner than it got to the desk level, it turned around and went right back up the line again.
I suspect it’s planning an assault.
RBS
re: #396 teleskiguy
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The only “big time” wrestler I’ve ever met. ‘Handsome’ Harley Race. Sat next to him on a flight one time, he had fingers that looked like polish sausages, and his forehead was just a mass of scar tissue.
Very polite and soft spoken individual however.
STUPIDEST MEME OF THE DAY==>
PARIS WILL HAPPEN TO US UNLESS WE #arrestobama NOW! @realDonaldTrump pic.twitter.com/affyfVOoGk
— Gary Forbes (@gqforbes) November 14, 2015
re: #397 Reality Based Steve
Well, that was bizarre.
I just had a spider drop a line from the top shelf of my desk down, right in front of the monitor. No sooner than it got to the desk level, it turned around and went right back up the line again.
I suspect it’s planning an assault.
RBS
Dry run…
re: #399 The Vicious Babushka
@gqforbes @realDonaldTrump I’m trying to figure out how 5% unemployment, killing bin Laden, doubling the Stock Market is destroying the US.
— Lonnie Mask (@LonnieMask) November 15, 2015
There was another disaster in France today. Accident this time.
On 14 November 2015, a TGV train derailed in Eckwersheim, Alsace, France, during pre-opening testing on the second phase of the LGV Est high-speed rail line. At least ten people were killed after the train derailed, caught fire and plunged into the Marne-Rhine Canal.[1][2] Another 32 people were injured, 12 of them in a serious condition, and a further five remain unaccounted for.
10 were killed.
re: #394 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate
I’m the reverse case: raised in metro New York and then moved to fly-over land after college. I agree with your summation. The three Dems are all urban-oriented, where their voting base is for the most part. But to capture the hearts and minds of the rural voters, they’re going to have to admit the rural voters are there and address their concerns. Sarah Palin was a nasty, vindictive candidate, but her remarks about “real America” resonated with people who view urban Democrats as snooty, ivory-tower types who consider country folks as ignorant rubes and hicks. Whoever wins the nomination is going to have to dispel those feelings somehow, because the GOP winner is for sure going to pull a Palin and tell those rural voters the Democrat hates them.
Fuck ‘em. They don’t think people on welfare should be allowed to vote—well, I don’t think states on welfare should be allowed to vote. The urban areas they despise so much are where the money’s coming from to support their “culture of dependency”, and they want to kill the goose that laid the golden egg? Fuck them, I say.
re: #398 Reality Based Steve
The only “big time” wrestler I’ve ever met. ‘Handsome’ Harley Race. Sat next to him on a flight one time, he had fingers that looked like polish sausages, and his forehead was just a mass of scar tissue.
Very polite and soft spoken individual however.
I bent the elbow one night in a Springfield, Mass., club with Captain Lou Albano at an NRBQ show. 30 years later I’m still busting a gut. Lou was a funny, funny guy, and totally sweet.
re: #393 Aunty Entity Dragon
Our intel guys didn’t get any wind of it either. I heard tonight that terrorists have found new online networking tools that are unbreakable and shred messages after a certain amount of time to make them unrecoverable. If intel agencies don’t have the keys from the networking and online meeting sites, we will not be able to get warnings the way we did with AQ ‘chatter’.
Or, the Paris terrorists might have simply bypassed the Internet altogether, and done their planning the old-fashioned way: face-to-face over a back table in some cafe. Eight guys sounds like a “big” cell, but it doesn’t seem too hard got them to slip under the radar. Probably fairly easy, actually, but I’m sure the PTB don’t want to advertise the fact…
re: #216 TedStriker
This is true.
That said, give me the name of a President that didn’t have a major fuckup and/or a moment of national shame during their term(s) (hint: they’re exceedingly few and far between).
William Henry Harrison!!
He proposed and passed ZERO bad legislation. He signed ZERO bad executive orders. He appointed ZERO bad judges or bad cabinet members. He made ZERO bad commander-in-chief military decisions.
re: #250 GlutenFreeJesus
Listening to Bernie with my eyes closed. I picture George Steinbrenner on Seinfeld. :D
A friend of mine says he sounds like Jackie Mason.
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