Video, March 2011: Donald Trump Exploits the Birther Conspiracy Theory on Fox News

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Donald Trump says he doesn’t want to discuss this any more, but it’s time to start reminding the voting public how this raging bigot made his bones with the right wing — by pandering to the racist Birther movement.

There was a time when the US media were telling us the Birthers were no longer an issue in the right wing base, but I never bought it. I was looking at comment sections on right wing websites and seeing hundreds — thousands — of comments from people who were absolutely sold on the Birther delusion. And obviously Donald Trump was seeing the same thing, because he worked ceaselessly to exploit these deranged, degraded people, and he built a base of conspiracy-minded followers that have now elevated him to the Republican nomination for president of the United States.

Here’s Trump on the Bill O’Reilly show in March 2011, spewing the kind of Birther insanity that built his right wing support. To his credit, Bill O’Reilly tried to push back, but not even he could stand against this tide of bad craziness. And it’s poetic justice in a way, because Fox News and O’Reilly himself are largely responsible for creating the audience of right wing robots who were ready and willing to follow Donald Trump into his cesspool of conspiracy theories and racism.

(Note: this video was posted by a right wing Birther account, so after viewing it, you may want to visit your YouTube history and delete it, so YouTube doesn’t start filling up your suggested videos with similar insanity.)

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nines09  Jul 1, 2016 • 7:27:32pm

The GOP is the tree, Trump is the fruit. As natural as rain.

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freetoken  Jul 1, 2016 • 7:28:47pm
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Anymouse  Jul 1, 2016 • 7:30:40pm

re: #1 nines09

The GOP is the tree, Trump is the fruit. As natural as rain.

Derp goes in, racism comes out. Who can explain it? = Bill O’Reilly, maybe.

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teleskiguy  Jul 1, 2016 • 7:31:29pm

Why does The Donald’s™ hair look green?

Hmm…

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nines09  Jul 1, 2016 • 7:33:04pm

re: #3 Anymouse

Derp goes in, racism comes out. Who can explain it? = Bill O’Reilly, maybe.

Bill and Don on one TV screen. Uh, no.

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Donnie With The Good Hair (AKA Sophist)  Jul 1, 2016 • 7:35:29pm
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freetoken  Jul 1, 2016 • 7:37:29pm

It’s not hard to show that the hate-right is a large part of the reason for Drumpfskind winning the nomination.

The top (episodic) shows on cable TV, other than WWE, is O’Reilly, The Kelly File, and Hannity. Here for example are Thursday’s ratings:

showbuzzdaily.com

Birtherism is one of the hallmarks of the hate-right.

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Joe Bacon  Jul 1, 2016 • 7:38:10pm

Charles is telling the truth when it comes to Birthers. Just look at the latest documentation on Fogbow’s webpage and you’ll see these liars are just ecstatic about Trump!

OOPS! forgot to put the “the” in front on the URL!

thefogbow.com

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Anymouse  Jul 1, 2016 • 7:40:02pm

Uh oh, heavy thunderstorms moving into my town. That usually means my Internet service goes down, you lucky devils.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 1, 2016 • 7:40:35pm

There are tons more videos like this at YouTube.

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Anymouse  Jul 1, 2016 • 7:41:41pm

re: #8 Joe Bacon

Charles is telling the truth when it comes to Birthers. Just look at the latest documentation on fogbow.com and you’ll see these liars are just ecstatic about Trump!

Apparently I missed something looking at that Website.

Welcome to FogStar. I work with Sound, Color, Light and other bio- and subtle energies. I am a musician, mixed-media artist, audio, video and computer engineer, a researcher and writer, a designer and builder of sound therapy tables and other interesting devices, and a creator of specialized and customized CDs & DVDs for sound tables, self-development, and other uses. I also work with and create special frequency commutations for various uses like brainwave and body entrainments, relaxation and well-being.

From my studies of the Languages of Light, Color, Sound, Sacred Geometry, Physics, Mathematics, Symbols, and Intentions, I attempt to recreate and share some of the amazing things I see and learn about in my research and in my collaborations with other researchers in these areas and others like cymatics. I use music and/or analog frequencies and specific intentions to directly and indirectly influence my creations.

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MsJ  Jul 1, 2016 • 7:44:53pm

Don’t forget his joint effort with Arpiao and Donny’s adventures in Hawaii. Donny sent a PI to HI! He paid for it! He found the proof!! Which was then promptly released…never.

He is and has always been a lying blowhard asshat who is completely full of shit.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 1, 2016 • 7:50:56pm

re: #12 MsJ

Don’t forget his joint effort with Arpiao and Donny’s adventures in Hawaii. Donny sent a PI to HI! He paid for it! He found the proof!! Which was then promptly released…never.

He is and has always been a lying blowhard asshat who is completely full of shit.

I’m planning to do a series of these posts, and the Arpaio stuff will definitely be part of it.

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jaunte  Jul 1, 2016 • 7:51:20pm

Trump on the World Trade Center site: “…and now they’re building a mosque acrost it.”

USA Today “…9/11 had more Muslim victims (about 60 of nearly 3,000 killed) than terrorist hijackers…”
usatoday30.usatoday.com

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Stanley Sea  Jul 1, 2016 • 7:55:02pm

re: #13 Charles Johnson

I’m planning to do a series of these posts, and the Arpaio stuff will definitely be part of it.

Please do. This bullshit needs to be bullhorned.

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Stanley Sea  Jul 1, 2016 • 7:55:59pm

re: #14 jaunte

Trump on the World Trade Center site: “…and now they’re building a mosque acrost it.”

USA Today “…9/11 had more Muslim victims (about 60 of nearly 3,000 killed) than terrorist hijackers…”
usatoday30.usatoday.com

The Muslim comments from this clip show exactly his mindset.

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Joe Bacon  Jul 1, 2016 • 7:58:55pm

re: #11 Anymouse

OWTCH! SORRY!

I corrected the URL to thefogbow.com!

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Donnie With The Good Hair (AKA Sophist)  Jul 1, 2016 • 8:03:34pm

Saw me some flowers today:

Mariposa Lily
Larkspur
White Larkspur
One Clump of white Lupine…
…and a billion regular Lupin
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Anymouse  Jul 1, 2016 • 8:03:44pm

re: #17 Joe Bacon

Yikes. They seem to rank right down there with Free Republic (in that they are both rank).

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teleskiguy  Jul 1, 2016 • 8:04:59pm

TRUMP BEAST, PENCE MAN. MAKE GREAT! HURR HURR DERP! U. S. A. U. S. A. GOOD GREAT!

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Kragar  Jul 1, 2016 • 8:05:34pm
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Joe Bacon  Jul 1, 2016 • 8:08:13pm

re: #20 teleskiguy

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TRUMP BEAST, PENCE MAN. MAKE GREAT! HURR HURR DERP! U. S. A. U. S. A. GOOD GREAT!

Well, that proves Trump will pick The Newtster!

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teleskiguy  Jul 1, 2016 • 8:10:51pm
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Joe Bacon  Jul 1, 2016 • 8:11:13pm
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jaunte  Jul 1, 2016 • 8:15:23pm

She’s up to 13 now

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HappyWarrior  Jul 1, 2016 • 8:16:34pm

A reminder but Romney who now denounces Trump was happy to have Trump as a surrogate for him.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Jul 1, 2016 • 8:17:32pm

Maisie Williams is following what Capaldi did earlier.

Peter Capaldi a.k.a. Dr Who meets Syrian refugees in Jordan with UNHCR

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Anymouse  Jul 1, 2016 • 8:18:28pm

re: #17 Joe Bacon

OWTCH! SORRY!

I corrected the URL to thefogbow.com!

Perhaps we ought to send Mr. Trump or some of his supporters to the original Website you linked, Fogstar.

Between the supporters’ and Mr. Trump’s fascist wingnuttery and the utter moonbattery at Fogstar (“sacred geometry,” special frequency commutations for various uses like brainwave and body entrainments, relaxation and well-being, Light, Color, Sound, Physics, Mathematics, Symbols, and Intentions), they will all have an explosion of batshittery.

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jaunte  Jul 1, 2016 • 8:20:23pm
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TK-421  Jul 1, 2016 • 8:22:26pm

On this Fourth of July, are we still one nation?

I hadn’t seen her since 1961. I was ordering lunch in a West Allis restaurant after getting my oil changed down the street when she came up to my table. At first, I didn’t recognize this tallish woman with the graying hair — 55 years is a lot of water over the dam — but I remembered her as soon as she said her name. My classmate had been one of the pretty, popular girls in eighth grade, and some of that early charm was still evident.

She invited me to her table to meet her husband, who sat bemused as we traded memories over egg rolls and noodles. There were the obligatory nun stories — ours was a Catholic school — and sketchy updates on the few classmates we’d followed over the years: who had married well, who drank too much and, inevitably, who had died.

Then came the question. She knew from my newspaper columns and occasional interviews that I was no longer the Goldwater Republican I’d been in my teens. With a look of genuine puzzlement on her face, she asked, “Whatever happened?”

Author John Gurda is a local (Milwaukee) historian.

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Mattand  Jul 1, 2016 • 8:25:33pm
Donald Trump says he doesn’t want to discuss this any more, but it’s time to start reminding the voting public how this raging bigot made his bones with the right wing — by pandering to the racist Birther movement.

This is what so pissed me off about Stephen Colbert when he had the short-fingered vulgarian on the Late Show back in the fall. He addressed the birther issue straight at Trump’s face. Trump demurred, saying that he doesn’t talk about that anymore.

Colbert’s response? Basically “Oh, OK. That’s fine. Let’s move on.”

Not that Colbert is a journalist, and the Late Show is in theory a different show form the Colbert Report, but Stephen letting Drumpf slide on the birther thing was utter bullshit. It’s a perfect encapsulation of the mainstream media being complicit in putting Trump where he is.

In a normal universe, Trump would have been ignored within a month of his fucking clown show launching. Instead, he stands a real, scary chance of actually running this country.

I’d be remiss if I didn’t give a hearty “Fuck you” to the Republican party for deciding an ignorant silver spoon racist should lead their party.

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Donnie With The Good Hair (AKA Sophist)  Jul 1, 2016 • 8:26:11pm
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De Kolta Chair  Jul 1, 2016 • 8:26:16pm

Alas, Trump supporters are too dense to realize that this is an excellent teaching moment regarding the 1%er white guy hair weave.

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jaunte  Jul 1, 2016 • 8:28:00pm

re: #30 TK-421

On this Fourth of July, are we still one nation?

“…my classmate declared herself a true believer. He wanted, she explained, exactly what she wanted: a wall across the Mexican border, safeguards against terrorists and the return of American jobs from overseas.”

It may just be a mental separation between people who understand what building a wall between the US and Mexico would mean to our economy, and people who want to be comforted by a fantasy.

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MsJ  Jul 1, 2016 • 8:28:19pm

re: #13 Charles Johnson

I’m planning to do a series of these posts, and the Arpaio stuff will definitely be part of it.

Good. I find it offensive that the big guys, our useless media, never calls him on this stuff. Clintons emails all the damned time but the shit that spews from this blatant liars yaw they keep silent on.

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De Kolta Chair  Jul 1, 2016 • 8:32:02pm

re: #27 Ziggy_TARDIS

Maisie Williams is following what Capaldi did earlier.

Good people all.

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Anymouse  Jul 1, 2016 • 8:32:18pm

Wonkette on Jeh Johnson taking down Senator Ted Cruz in a hearing on those “three magic words” that will end terrorism by groups like Daesh forever.

Cruz held forth on the idea of some fellow alleging Homeland Security buried or expunged reports (by the tens of thousands) of the magic words “radical Islamic terror.”

Wonkette notes that there was one report that was entirely buried though: the one on radical right-wing extremism and terrorism.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Jul 1, 2016 • 8:33:32pm

re: #36 De Kolta Chair

I actually talked to Capaldi about that, and asked how I could help.

He said to contact UNICEF.

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Donnie With The Good Hair (AKA Sophist)  Jul 1, 2016 • 8:34:16pm
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De Kolta Chair  Jul 1, 2016 • 8:34:57pm

re: #38 Ziggy_TARDIS

I actually talked to Capaldi about that, and asked how I could help.

He said to contact UNICEF.

Excellent advice. From “who” btw?

///

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teleskiguy  Jul 1, 2016 • 8:35:10pm

re: #39 Donnie With The Good Hair (AKA Sophist)

I could actually see The Donald™ selling this very sticker. Scary.

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jaunte  Jul 1, 2016 • 8:37:36pm

re: #39 Donnie With The Good Hair (AKA Sophist)

Ein Gingrich?

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Jul 1, 2016 • 8:39:01pm

Way to go, numbnuts. First Darwin Award Nominee of July 2016.

A German tourist died Wednesday at the ancient site of Machu Picchu, after he fell hundreds of feet from a cliff while posing for a photo. His body was recovered Thursday.

The BBC reports that 51-year-old Oliver Park ignored posted warnings and went into a restricted area close to a cliff. Officials say he tried to pose for a “jumping” photo, but as he was landing, fell off the cliff.

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De Kolta Chair  Jul 1, 2016 • 8:39:46pm

re: #42 jaunte

Ein Gingrich?

Die kleine Gingrich?

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majii  Jul 1, 2016 • 8:42:08pm

re: #43 Ziggy_TARDIS

I have never understood why people, when they go to a place they’re unfamiliar with, do not obey the posted signs. The signs aren’t posted just to take up space. Their intended purpose to keep visitors safe.

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teleskiguy  Jul 1, 2016 • 8:43:37pm

Hey, good news!

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jaunte  Jul 1, 2016 • 8:44:00pm


makeamericagreatagainpac.com

Trump PAC still excited about a Sept. 2015 poll.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jul 1, 2016 • 8:44:14pm

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We’ve gained exclusive access to a leaked plan that was put together by the Vote Leave campaign, the UKIP, and Nigel Farage. It includes detailed solutions for the following political and economic issues expected after the United Kingdom departs the European Union.

http://thebrexitplan.com/

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Anymouse  Jul 1, 2016 • 8:45:24pm

re: #46 teleskiguy

Been a bad week for the uteri inspectors and forced-birther “small government conservatives”: Texas, Florida, Indiana, Kentucky.

It’s almost as if they don’t understand how the constitution works.

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MsJ  Jul 1, 2016 • 8:46:30pm

re: #41 teleskiguy

I could actually see The Donald™ selling this very sticker. Scary.

Except his would be:

White People, White Nation, call me Dear Leader.

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teleskiguy  Jul 1, 2016 • 8:46:55pm

re: #49 Anymouse

It’s almost as if they don’t understand how the constitution works.

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Donnie With The Good Hair (AKA Sophist)  Jul 1, 2016 • 8:47:00pm
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Double Dumbass  Jul 1, 2016 • 8:47:22pm

Interesting. We’re getting a tornado warning on our TV for an area 100km northwest of us.

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MsJ  Jul 1, 2016 • 8:48:01pm

ISIS claims responsibility for deadly hostage takeover in Bangladesh

usatoday.com

*fixed

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jaunte  Jul 1, 2016 • 8:48:10pm

re: #53 Double Dumbass

That’s a big one.

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teleskiguy  Jul 1, 2016 • 8:48:56pm

re: #55 jaunte

That’s a big one.

Rated EF-11TY.

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Double Dumbass  Jul 1, 2016 • 8:51:11pm

re: #55 jaunte

That’s a big one.

It will likely be EF-0 or EF-1 but right now the danger is 100kms NW. The storm won’t reach here until after midnight when the likelihood is minimal.

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Charles Johnson  Jul 1, 2016 • 8:51:47pm
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majii  Jul 1, 2016 • 8:52:11pm

re: #51 teleskiguy

If she took U.S. history in high school, she slept through the class every day. if she doesn’t know how the year 1789 is associated with the Constitution being, as she thinks, “ratified.” As a retired U.S. history teacher, I’m embarrassed by what many Americans don’t know but should know. If she knew the Constitution received enough states’ votes in 1789 to be accepted as our governing document, she’d throw that sign to the ground, cover her face and walk away as fast as her legs would take her. What irks me most is that these people vote, and they’re raising children that they’re passing this ignorance on to.

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electrotek  Jul 1, 2016 • 8:53:14pm

And why are there some Middle Eastern peeps who would vote for Trump even after all this?

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Donnie With The Good Hair (AKA Sophist)  Jul 1, 2016 • 8:53:31pm

re: #51 teleskiguy

“Constition”?

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MsJ  Jul 1, 2016 • 8:54:13pm

re: #61 Donnie With The Good Hair (AKA Sophist)

“Constition”?

Moran!

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majii  Jul 1, 2016 • 8:54:35pm

re: #54 MsJ

We know who the article says is claiming responsibility, but we also know who the GOPers will say is responsible. He’s the guy they describe as being both the weakest and the strongest leader on the planet.

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MsJ  Jul 1, 2016 • 8:54:55pm

BTW, fixed #54 above.

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De Kolta Chair  Jul 1, 2016 • 8:55:41pm

Speaking of actors who advocate for refugees, Milana Vayntrub, known for her AT&T commercials, does a lot of good work in that sphere. She’s a Jewish refugee from the USSR — Uzbek to be precise, but was an Uzbek ever precise? Think about it. — and my sources in NYC’s Upright Citizens Brigade tell me she’s a wicked cool bundle o’ dynamite.

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William Lewis  Jul 1, 2016 • 8:56:16pm

re: #40 De Kolta Chair

< RIMSHOT >

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Anymouse  Jul 1, 2016 • 8:56:53pm

re: #59 majii

If she took U.S. history in high school, she slept through the class every day. if she doesn’t know how the year 1789 is associated with the Constitution being, as she thinks, “ratified.” As a retired U.S. history teacher, I’m embarrassed by what many Americans don’t know but should know. If she knew the Constitution received enough states’ votes in 1789 to be accepted as our governing document, she’d throw that sign to the ground, cover her face and walk away as fast as her legs would take her. What irks me most is that these people vote, and they’re raising children that they’re passing this ignorance on to.

I haven’t been to college at all and I grasp the concepts presented in the US Constitution.

I suspect right-wingers like Senator Cruz do too. They simply do not care.

They present some twisted idea of the Constitution to people who do not know better (like the woman in the photo), and those supporters accept it because they do not know any better.

It is a cynical and twisted way to pervert the law to attain power. Senator Cruz only cares about one thing: Senator Cruz.

The education system fails such voters, but in states like Texas or Kansas, that seems to be a feature, not a bug.

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electrotek  Jul 1, 2016 • 8:59:08pm

re: #65 De Kolta Chair

Speaking of actors who advocate for refugees, Milana Vayntrub, known for her AT&T commercials, does a lot of good work in that sphere. She’s a Jewish refugee from the USSR — Uzbek to be precise, but was an Uzbek ever precise? — and my sources in NYC’s Upright Citizens Brigade tell me she’s a wicked cool bundle o’ dynamite.

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She’s most likely an Ashkenazic Jew as opposed to a Bukharan one.

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teleskiguy  Jul 1, 2016 • 9:00:46pm

re: #59 majii

Anytime someone brings up the “Constitution” canard to my face, I ask them if they’ve actually read the goddamn thing. “Not the whole thing, just the important parts” is a popular response.

You morons! 4,543 words in the original document, including signatures. 7,591 words if you count all 27 amendments.

I ask them “So what’s the important part?” And they say 1st, 2nd amendment, etc. “Yeah, what about the rest of the document *before* the amendments, what do they say?” That’s usually when our conversation ends. I wouldn’t be the least bit surprised to hear that most self-described conservatives don’t even know that the constitution a.) divides our government into three branches, b.) only mentions religion twice; once to outlaw a religious test for office and twice when the first amendment was drafted which in effect separates church and state, and c.) like you said, was ratified in 1789, a full 13 years after the Declaration of Independence.

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teleskiguy  Jul 1, 2016 • 9:00:58pm

re: #61 Donnie With The Good Hair (AKA Sophist)

INORITE?!?

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De Kolta Chair  Jul 1, 2016 • 9:01:59pm

re: #68 electrotek

She’s most likely an Ashkenazic Jew as opposed to a Bukharan one.

You can tell all that from her cleavage?

Signed, Boris Johnson ////

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teleskiguy  Jul 1, 2016 • 9:02:17pm

re: #65 De Kolta Chair

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Dave In Austin  Jul 1, 2016 • 9:05:05pm

re: #65 De Kolta Chair

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Anymouse  Jul 1, 2016 • 9:08:55pm

re: #69 teleskiguy

I haven’t had someone bring up the “follow the Constitution” argument to me. (In this tiny little town, people know better than to bring up that argument with me.)

The only time at all I brought up the Constitution in the context of “follow it” was when I was elected to the village board in 2012. That conversation came up in the context of the state official oath requirement to swear “so help me God” in the state constitution.

I immediately brought it up with the county attorney (who would administer the oath), noting in the state statutes there was a disagreement with the state constitution in that the statutes allow one to make an affirmation of office instead of swearing an oath. He conferred with the state attorney general, who contacted us both and noted I was correct.

When the county attorney administered the oaths of office, it was the alternative affirmation of office language administered for me. (No one gave a hoot about it. When the local paper reported on three new trustees, they reported that two swore and one affirmed to uphold and defend the state and national constitutions, without saying it was me that gave the affirmation.)

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majii  Jul 1, 2016 • 9:09:20pm

re: #69 teleskiguy

I sometimes wish we had a federal law prohibiting any lawmaker in the U.S. from lying to citizens about the constitution and laws, but I don’t hold out much hope it’ll happen because I don’t think right-wing politicians in Congress would vote for it. They seem to enjoy lying about the constitution and laws to benefit themselves. Most of them are well-educated and know better, but they’re also so corrupt that they think nothing of lying to win elections. For example, the MSM has done a halfway decent job of exposing Trump as an habitual liar, but millions still plan to vote for him. Some, like David Barton, are hailing Trump as being “sent by God to lead the country,” which is a steaming, stinking pile of bull hockey. They know the man’s a liar, but they just don’t care. All they want is someone in the WH who is willing to do what they tell him to do. If i live to be 100, I’ll never forget Grover Norquist saying in 2012 that it doesn’t matter whether a GOPer in the WH knows anything about a subject/policy or not because his only job would be to sign right-wing legislation Congress sends to him. SMDH.

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teleskiguy  Jul 1, 2016 • 9:09:54pm

re: #73 Dave In Austin

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Anymouse  Jul 1, 2016 • 9:10:59pm

re: #76 teleskiguy

She can’t have me. My wife won’t give me up and I don’t want to be traded off anyway. /s

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De Kolta Chair  Jul 1, 2016 • 9:11:43pm

re: #72 teleskiguy

re: #73 Dave In Austin

I know when I’m licked. Toodles.

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William Lewis  Jul 1, 2016 • 9:12:01pm

re: #69 teleskiguy

I have a little paperback copy of the Constitution that I keep on me. It can be entertaining to say “Well, let’s just see what it really says then.” It was especially fun when I was a census taker and had people parroting the right wing lines of the day.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jul 1, 2016 • 9:13:48pm
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HappyWarrior  Jul 1, 2016 • 9:15:46pm

re: #80 Eric The Fruit Bat

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Never see anything like this from people like SMOTI or Trump. Gee I wonder why.

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jaunte  Jul 1, 2016 • 9:16:09pm

re: #75 majii

You many have seen this, but I’ll post it again:

Any time the Oregon militants record a video testimonial — and they do that a lot — they’re conspicuously displaying a pocket Constitution.

That’s inspired some obvious jokes about whether they should pull out those Constitutions out of their pockets once in awhile and read them — but that actually misses the point.

The militants do read those pocket Constitutions, but they’re also reading fraudulent interpretations scribbled in the margins, so to speak, by a communist-hating conspiracy theorist promoted by Glenn Beck, reported the Los Angeles Times.
rawstory.com

Oregon armed protesters invoke the Constitution — annotated by a conspiracy theorist

“…Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people,” it quotes John Adams in an addendum. “It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.”

Constitutional scholars say some quotations are either deliberate alterations or taken out of context. The Adams quote, taken in its entirety from a 1798 letter to the Militia of Massachusetts, is an instruction to abide by morality, and seems to use “religion” in place of good deeds and words.

Other quotations center on the need for people to take power for themselves, and not let government lay too heavy a hand on their affairs.”

latimes.com

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teleskiguy  Jul 1, 2016 • 9:17:17pm

Poor Rosemary (right). Joe crippled her for life because she had a mental illness that these days we treat with medication and therapy.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 1, 2016 • 9:18:47pm

re: #83 teleskiguy

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Poor Rosemary (right). Joe crippled her for life because she had a mental illness that these days we treat with medication and therapy.

Yeah it’s a very sad story. I am someone who admires the Kennedy brothers but I don’t think much of Joe Kennedy, Sr at all.

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Anymouse  Jul 1, 2016 • 9:18:48pm

re: #78 De Kolta Chair

The GOP might do better running H.R. Pufnstuf for President.

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De Kolta Chair  Jul 1, 2016 • 9:19:32pm
Separated at dearth?
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jaunte  Jul 1, 2016 • 9:22:50pm


The completed Koneprusia trilobite after over 50 hours of work under microscope using air scribes and air abrasives to carefully remove the limestone.

This is cool. Also a good model for the next Alien movie.

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majii  Jul 1, 2016 • 9:25:19pm

re: #82 jaunte

I read that some school districts had to stop using corrupted versions of the Constitution, thanks to the Freedom From Religion Foundation. W. Cleon Skousen was one of the first Christianists to begin peddling alternative versions of the Constitution. He’s dead and gone now, but he did a lot of damage to this country while he lived by promoting his far right beliefs and having them gain purchase in mainstream society. He and Ayn Rand still have a lot of influence in the GOP.

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Anymouse  Jul 1, 2016 • 9:27:00pm

re: #88 majii

I read that some school districts had to stop using corrupted versions of the Constitution, thanks to the Freedom From Religion Foundation. W. Cleon Skousen was one of the first Christianists to begin peddling alternative versions of the Constitution. He’s dead and gone now, but he did a lot of damage to this country while he lived by promoting his far right beliefs and having them gain purchase in mainstream society. He and Ayn Rand still have a lot of influence in the GOP.

According to the LA Times article, Florida bought it for Civics classes. (The fellow who created it sold it for only a few cents, making it attractive to states that have had education budget cuts.) Florida apologised when it was brought to the state’s attention what was actually in the little book.

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retired cynic  Jul 1, 2016 • 9:27:55pm

re: #87 jaunte

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The completed Koneprusia trilobite after over 50 hours of work under microscope using air scribes and air abrasives to carefully remove the limestone.

This is cool. Also a good model for the next Alien movie.

Oh, wow, oh, wow! I loved one comment: “A trilobyte! How much storage is that in, like, mb? Ok, I show myself out now.”

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electrotek  Jul 1, 2016 • 9:29:04pm
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majii  Jul 1, 2016 • 9:29:15pm

re: #86 De Kolta Chair

Whenever I see Rupert Murdoch, I think of Jerry Hall marrying him. How does someone go from Mick Jagger to Rupert Murdoch? Just wondering.

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teleskiguy  Jul 1, 2016 • 9:31:28pm

re: #92 majii

Whenever I see Rupert Murdoch, I think of Jerry Hall marrying him. How does someone go from Mick Jagger to Rupert Murdoch? Just wondering.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 1, 2016 • 9:31:45pm

re: #80 Eric The Fruit Bat

Fucking Eh!

(See what I did there? :p)

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jaunte  Jul 1, 2016 • 9:32:17pm

re: #93 teleskiguy

That’s How Strong My Love Is

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freetoken  Jul 1, 2016 • 9:32:51pm

Queen of the snowbillies speaketh:

Republican opponents of Trump are ‘RATs’, ‘all bad’ — Sarah Palin

“That gang, they call themselves Never hashtag, whatever: I just call ‘em Republicans Against Trump, or RAT for short,” Palin told the Western Conservative Summit in Denver, serving as warmup act when Trump was an hour late.

“They want to take their (Denver) Nuggets ball and stay home instead of voting, because their guy didn’t win this time around. I shouldn’t call them thumb suckers. They’re not all bad. I’m kidding. They are.”

Palin went on to lay down a marker for Republicans: You are with us, meaning Trump, or against us.

[…]

The SeattlePI staff isn’t pulling punches:

The speech was reminiscent of racist characterizations that nativists in 19th century America used to describe Irish, Italian, Polish, Slovak and Croatian immigrants arriving to seek a new life at this country’s shores.

At least a few news organizations are not willing to sugar-coat the ugliness of the Drumpfsepoche.

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majii  Jul 1, 2016 • 9:33:58pm

re: #93 teleskiguy

I don’t see how Jerry Hall can stand to have him touch her. I figured money had to have played a significant role in her agreeing to marry him. I like money, too, but I also have some principles I live by that I don’t violate for anyone/reason.

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freetoken  Jul 1, 2016 • 9:34:55pm

re: #97 majii

You’re assuming they actually get physically intimate…

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Anymouse  Jul 1, 2016 • 9:35:33pm

re: #96 freetoken

Sarah Palin should know by now you never go full Sarah Palin.

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jaunte  Jul 1, 2016 • 9:36:01pm

re: #96 freetoken

BARRATRUMPA

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MsJ  Jul 1, 2016 • 9:36:30pm

re: #92 majii

Whenever I see Rupert Murdoch, I think of Jerry Hall marrying him. How does someone go from Mick Jagger to Rupert Murdoch? Just wondering.

The pic of them together was gross. He looks like her grandfather.

How creepy is she? That’s my question. There’s got to be something wrong with her. We already know what’s wrong with him.

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majii  Jul 1, 2016 • 9:37:28pm

re: #96 freetoken

If anyone can get nasty, it’s Palin. A few years ago, I never thought I’d see GOPers attacking other GOPers, but it’s happening today in living color. One good thing I see in these GOP on GOP attacks is that they’re finally getting a taste of what they’ve dishing out to others who don’t agree with them. Looks like some of the chickens are definitely coming home to roost.

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majii  Jul 1, 2016 • 9:39:01pm

re: #98 freetoken

I think Old Rupert would go there with the help of Viagra.

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Dave In Austin  Jul 1, 2016 • 9:39:15pm

re: #101 MsJ

The pic of them together was gross. He looks like her grandfather.

How creepy is she? That’s my question. There’s got to be something wrong with her. We already know what’s wrong with him.

She’s no spring chicken herself. She’s 59. Mick must have been gone to much. Is Murdoch’s ex still seeing Vladimir? What’s the deal with that??

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freetoken  Jul 1, 2016 • 9:40:18pm

re: #101 MsJ

How creepy is she? That’s my question. There’s got to be something wrong with her. We already know what’s wrong with him.

It’s not my place to judge her… but I will point out that her previous husband is far from an ideal spouse (and they were married even if not recognized by the UK gov’t.)

Hall comes from the rarified world of super-modelling, centerfolds and magazine fronts.

So her choices in relationships are probably highly skewed towards factors we normal folk do not normally use.

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MsJ  Jul 1, 2016 • 9:41:07pm

re: #104 Dave In Austin

She’s no spring chicken herself. She’s 59. Mick must have been gone to much. Is Murdoch’s ex still seeing Vladimir? What’s the deal with that??

I know. But she looks good and he’s a crumpled pig of a man who looks 107.

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MsJ  Jul 1, 2016 • 9:42:16pm

re: #105 freetoken

It’s not my place to judge her… but I will point out that her previous husband is far from an ideal spouse (and they were married even if not recognized by the UK gov’t.)

Hall comes from the rarified world of super-modelling, centerfolds and magazine fronts.

So her choices in relationships are probably highly skewed towards factors we normal folk do not normally use.

Well, there’s THAT. You’re right of course. Completely.

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freetoken  Jul 1, 2016 • 9:42:35pm

re: #106 MsJ

I know. But she looks good and he’s a crumpled pig of a man who looks 107.

Who’s worth billions…

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No Depression  Jul 1, 2016 • 9:43:03pm

re: #93 teleskiguy

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Guessing she’s not a fan of this song:

The Beatles - Can’t Buy Me Love

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freetoken  Jul 1, 2016 • 9:44:29pm

We everyday folk fall in love.

The elite 1% of 1% fall into prenuptials.

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Grunthos the Flatulent  Jul 1, 2016 • 9:44:41pm

re: #92 majii

Whenever I see Rupert Murdoch, I think of Jerry Hall marrying him. How does someone go from Mick Jagger to Rupert Murdoch? Just wondering.

I am at a lo$$ to under$tand her rea$on$ al$o.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 1, 2016 • 9:44:54pm

Age aside, Murdoch is also a bigoted dick.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jul 1, 2016 • 9:45:44pm

re: #98 freetoken

Like Mr. and Mrs. Alan Greenspan?

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MsJ  Jul 1, 2016 • 9:47:12pm

More on Bangladesh.

washingtonpost.com

Don’t read the comments. Just sayin’.

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Grunthos the Flatulent  Jul 1, 2016 • 9:48:11pm

re: #28 Anymouse

Perhaps we ought to send Mr. Trump or some of his supporters to the original Website you linked, Fogstar.

I’d rather send him to The Frogstar

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majii  Jul 1, 2016 • 9:49:30pm

re: #112 HappyWarrior

He wants to be a kingmaker, alright. He backed Abbott in Australia and claimed that Abbott was “just what the country needed.” When Abbott won, Murdoch was on Twitter letting everyone know he played a role in getting him elected. A few years later when Abbott was forced out after serving a little over two years in office, I checked Twitter. Murdoch said nothing about it. It seems that Abbott wasn’t what Australia needed after all.

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electrotek  Jul 1, 2016 • 9:49:41pm

re: #114 MsJ

More on Bangladesh.

washingtonpost.com

Don’t read the comments. Just sayin’.

There’s only 4 comments in that link.

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MsJ  Jul 1, 2016 • 9:50:58pm

re: #117 electrotek

There’s only 4 comments in that link.

And they’re all nuts.

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jaunte  Jul 1, 2016 • 9:52:16pm

re: #118 MsJ

Four people who didn’t know where Bangladesh was before this week.

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Anymouse  Jul 1, 2016 • 9:56:38pm

I love the commentators over at Wonkette; sadly, my quickness of wit is not sufficient to compete over there:

Let’s see now, 215M eligible voters, 15M voted for Trump, carry the Gohmert…….yep, start the coronation.

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jaunte  Jul 1, 2016 • 10:04:33pm

re: #112 HappyWarrior

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freetoken  Jul 1, 2016 • 10:07:21pm

In light of this week’s discussion about Sen. Warren, today’s post over at The Root offers a perspective on a similar matter:

A DNA Test Says I’m Part Black. How Do I Embrace That?

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freetoken  Jul 1, 2016 • 10:10:40pm

re: #121 jaunte

Why wait a 100 years? Contemporary histories will always be closer to the source than one written a century later.

The history of what we call the “media” in the late 20th and early 21st century will show that the old fashioned “yellow journalism” found rebirth in a new form of public misdirection.

Murdoch is just another brighter-than-average man who found out that he could get rich by working the less-bright marks.

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 1, 2016 • 10:18:45pm

re: #113 Eric The Fruit Bat

Like Mr. and Mrs. Alan Greenspan?

You rang?

Nothing in here but a couple of elephant skin rugs…
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retired cynic  Jul 1, 2016 • 10:24:15pm

I know no one here is making fun of me (and it has nothing to do with Murdoch and Hall) but I married a man several decades my senior when I was in my twenties. We’ve been married nearly 45 years now, and we look pretty saggy and wrinkled. (I’m saggy, he’s wrinkled.) And I still love to hug him, bless his heart!

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teleskiguy  Jul 1, 2016 • 10:28:13pm

re: #125 retired cynic

I know no one here is making fun of me (and it has nothing to do with Murdoch and Hall) but I married a man several decades my senior when I was in my twenties. We’ve been married nearly 45 years now, and we look pretty saggy and wrinkled. (I’m saggy, he’s wrinkled.) And I still love to hug him, bless his heart!

See freetoken’s #110.

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retired cynic  Jul 1, 2016 • 10:29:05pm

re: #126 teleskiguy

See freetoken’s #110.

I know. They didn’t do pre-nups in our area of the boonies, way back then!

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majii  Jul 1, 2016 • 10:31:06pm

re: #125 retired cynic

I think some of us are more repulsed not so much by Murdoch’s age as we are by his attitude and the way he uses his money to take advantage of others. When I see him, I have a bad taste in my mouth because I know he thinks he can do whatever he wants to because he has more money than most of us. Another reason I don’t like him is because he has done tremendous damage to our society and government via Fox News because he’s using it to dispense lies, conspiracy theories, and propaganda—-all things which are useful in promoting divisiveness in any nation.

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retired cynic  Jul 1, 2016 • 10:33:28pm

re: #128 majii

Oh, my goodness! I wasn’t defending Murdoch from ANYthing! He is repulsive from the inside all the way out.

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majii  Jul 1, 2016 • 10:34:51pm

re: #129 retired cynic

I didn’t think you were. I was sharing how I feel about him.

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MsJ  Jul 1, 2016 • 10:35:18pm

re: #125 retired cynic

I know no one here is making fun of me (and it has nothing to do with Murdoch and Hall) but I married a man several decades my senior when I was in my twenties. We’ve been married nearly 45 years now, and we look pretty saggy and wrinkled. (I’m saggy, he’s wrinkled.) And I still love to hug him, bless his heart!

Love is love. What I think all of us are doing is making crude comments about anyone who could love Murdoch. It has nothing to do with her or them…it’s how anyone on this planet could love - or be with - a black hearted POS like old Rup.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 1, 2016 • 10:37:25pm

re: #125 retired cynic

I know no one here is making fun of me (and it has nothing to do with Murdoch and Hall) but I married a man several decades my senior when I was in my twenties. We’ve been married nearly 45 years now, and we look pretty saggy and wrinkled. (I’m saggy, he’s wrinkled.) And I still love to hug him, bless his heart!

My father’s parents were nearly 30 years apart in age. They were married almost 40 years. So, I make it a point not to scoff at May-September matches, though my daughter had a conniption when I told her I was dating someone 25 years younger than me. Now, I just don’t tell her such details.

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teleskiguy  Jul 1, 2016 • 10:45:13pm

I love this picture. I’ve been up there (Teocalli Mountain) but I don’t have a photo of Mt. Crested Butte like this. All that rocky terrain in the upper left part of the photo? When it’s completely buried in snow it’s the most fun you can have with your clothes on whilst skiing.

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retired cynic  Jul 1, 2016 • 10:46:25pm

re: #132 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

My father’s parents were nearly 30 years apart in age. They were married almost 40 years. So, I make it a point not to scoff at May-September matches, though my daughter had a conniption when I told her I was dating someone 25 years younger than me. Now, I just don’t tell her such details.

As I said, it’s not the outside, but the inside!

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teleskiguy  Jul 1, 2016 • 10:47:16pm

re: #133 teleskiguy

Hell, *all* the really rocky shit you see on Mt. Crested Butte ski area I’ve at least attempted, save a few hundred foot cliffs.

I miss skiing at Crested Butte. That place is rad as fuck if you’re a good skier/snowboarder. As long as it snows.

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retired cynic  Jul 1, 2016 • 10:49:50pm

re: #135 teleskiguy

I prefer to look at the pretty photos, thank you!

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 1, 2016 • 10:50:20pm

re: #65 De Kolta Chair

Speaking of actors who advocate for refugees, Milana Vayntrub, known for her AT&T commercials, does a lot of good work in that sphere. She’s a Jewish refugee from the USSR — Uzbek to be precise, but was an Uzbek ever precise? Think about it. — and my sources in NYC’s Upright Citizens Brigade tell me she’s a wicked cool bundle o’ dynamite.

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Wow! I knew the lady in the AT&T commercials was a babe, but born in Tashkent? That’s as big a surprise as Carmen Lopez being an Albanian born in Tiranë.

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MsJ  Jul 1, 2016 • 10:57:45pm
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teleskiguy  Jul 1, 2016 • 10:59:23pm

re: #136 retired cynic

A sample of names of certain pitches on Mt. Crested Butte. They’re all real names, and listed on a map.

-Dead Bob’s Chute
-Body Bag Glades
-Staircase
-Disgusting Trees
-Dead End (I’ve stood on top of Dead End on my skis twice, probably never again)

I’ve skied all those and can point them out on that picture I shared above. I like Magic Carpet and Fredo’s to High Life better than all those.

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William Lewis  Jul 1, 2016 • 11:01:31pm

re: #132 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

My father’s parents were nearly 30 years apart in age. They were married almost 40 years. So, I make it a point not to scoff at May-September matches, though my daughter had a conniption when I told her I was dating someone 25 years younger than me. Now, I just don’t tell her such details.

You give me hope ;)

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 1, 2016 • 11:09:42pm

re: #140 William Lewis

You give me hope ;)

Yeah, well the lady in question moved to Beijing and eventually found another fella, so it didn’t quite work out the way I wanted. :D

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goddamnedfrank  Jul 1, 2016 • 11:31:32pm

I’m so goddamned tired of this man’s entitled fuckfaced ignorant dumbshittery.

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MsJ  Jul 1, 2016 • 11:45:51pm

Sigh.

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Anymouse  Jul 1, 2016 • 11:48:26pm

re: #140 William Lewis

You give me hope ;)

I suspect my wife and I won’t be married as long - we married in 2007 (I was 47, she was 45). To be married as long would strain credulity on our expected life spans. In point of fact, in 1974 I became the oldest male in my biological family upon the death of my uncle (when I was fourteen he was run over by a train while riding a horse home from the bar drunk - there are some interesting stories in my family about the stupid things men do); now I am the second-oldest person, after my mother.

(I became second-oldest on the death of my maternal grandmother in 2005)

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GlutenFreeJesus  Jul 2, 2016 • 12:18:30am
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Nyet  Jul 2, 2016 • 12:49:56am

Just learned that the bank account in Berlin where the money stolen from the murdered Jews was being transferred had a number 1488.

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Single-handed sailor  Jul 2, 2016 • 1:04:30am

re: #146 Nyet

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CuriousLurker  Jul 2, 2016 • 1:20:15am

Trivia Drive-by: You know those box cutters that have the blades you can snap off when they get dull? They were invented by the founder of Olfa Corporation and his younger brother based on a childhood memory about a chocolate bar.

Snap-off blade

Founder Yoshio Okada and his younger brother Saburo worked for printing companies where they cut paper with razor blades, but the blades quickly became unusable as their edges wore out. The brothers invented blades with scored lines which could be snapped to reveal sharp unused sections of blade. This idea came to them when they recalled how a chocolate bar given to them by an American soldier in childhood had also broken off in sections.

These snap-off blades and their associated handles are now made by many manufacturers in two standard sizes (9 and 18mm). […]

en.wikipedia.org

That is all. ;-)

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MadMs  Jul 2, 2016 • 1:47:43am

Ok, I’m just going to dive right in. I’ve lurked here for the past year, so I do know some of your names.

I’m a misplaced NY LIer living in Madison, Dane County, WI. Yes, land of Walker.

I bring local micro brews, lol, even if I don’t drink beer. (ducks)

Since I grew up on LI, Suffolk county, I truly know a good pizza, and it does NOT have pineapple and ham on the MF.

I now await getting picked on as a noob.

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William Lewis  Jul 2, 2016 • 1:53:17am

re: #146 Nyet

Just learned that the bank account in Berlin where the money stolen from the murdered Jews was being transferred had a number 1488.

That is one of those do you laugh or cry moments… Probably both.

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Nyet  Jul 2, 2016 • 1:57:25am

re: #149 MadMs

Hi there and welcome! Usually not a lot of activity at this hour so don’t forget to pop up later with the intro ;)

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MadMs  Jul 2, 2016 • 2:01:46am

Yeah, I realize its late. I’m a tad shy.

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Grunthos the Flatulent  Jul 2, 2016 • 2:09:28am

re: #152 MadMs

Yeah, I realize its late. I’m a tad shy.

Remember, we span time zones.

Also, there is the middle path: pineapple is fine on pizza, but only with ham. Any other permutation is an abomination. So there.

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MadMs  Jul 2, 2016 • 2:15:33am

re: #153 Grunthos the Flatulent

I actually don’t recognize you. It must be a big difference in time zne for you?

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Nyet  Jul 2, 2016 • 2:16:20am

re: #153 Grunthos the Flatulent

Your next comment is 666. Hail Stan!

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William Lewis  Jul 2, 2016 • 2:16:41am

re: #152 MadMs

Or early :) I used to live on Marquette, just off of East Wash. Where in Madison are you?

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MadMs  Jul 2, 2016 • 2:19:46am

re: #156 William Lewisre: #156 William Lewis

Westport, near Gov Nelson State Park.

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Grunthos the Flatulent  Jul 2, 2016 • 2:22:43am

re: #154 MadMs

I actually don’t recognize you. It must be a big difference in time zne for you?

Not surprising. Keeping the lights on in the Antipodes.

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William Lewis  Jul 2, 2016 • 2:24:13am

re: #157 MadMs

Westport, near Gov Nelson State Park.

Ooh, big money :) Or not quite up to Bishops Bay?

More seriously, pretty country out that way. Always liked the beach there.

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MadMs  Jul 2, 2016 • 2:27:29am

re: #159 William Lewis

Close to Bishop Bay, over-hyped. No, I’m in a faraway neighborhood most people don’t know about.

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MadMs  Jul 2, 2016 • 2:30:39am

re: #159 William Lewis

We love it. The beach at the state park truly sucks, we haven’t been there in years. I really like Devil Lake, south shore for a swim. Take the ferry for fun.

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Alyosha  Jul 2, 2016 • 2:32:53am

Election results coming in down here. Fingers crossed for a Labor party win, however unlikely.

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William Lewis  Jul 2, 2016 • 2:33:46am

I’ll light a candle for you all.

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Alyosha  Jul 2, 2016 • 2:37:36am

Cory Bernardi is a Geert Wilders fan. Nuff said.

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Alyosha  Jul 2, 2016 • 2:39:56am
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Alyosha  Jul 2, 2016 • 2:52:20am
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Alyosha  Jul 2, 2016 • 2:53:40am

Johnny Depp’s woes continue…

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 2, 2016 • 3:22:31am

So it begins
Neutral start is rolling…

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freetoken  Jul 2, 2016 • 3:29:09am

May be too inside for some:

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Nyet  Jul 2, 2016 • 3:58:03am
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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 2, 2016 • 4:08:42am

re: #149 MadMs

Ok, I’m just going to dive right in. I’ve lurked here for the past year, so I do know some of your names.

I’m a misplaced NY LIer living in Madison, Dane County, WI. Yes, land of Walker.

I bring local micro brews, lol, even if I don’t drink beer. (ducks)

Since I grew up on LI, Suffolk county, I truly know a good pizza, and it does NOT have pineapple and ham on the MF.

I now await getting picked on as a noob.

Hey there! I grew on the Island, too! Click the box to reveal where.

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Teukka  Jul 2, 2016 • 4:10:00am

<vent>
GAH. I’m engaged in a comment war with one of those right-wing nut-jobs that believe that Fascism and Nazism were pure left-wing ideologies based on socialism, while truth is that both use what is most convenient and efficient at the moment, arise anywhere on the political spectrum, then go hard right once their power is secure.
To make an analogy, he sees the conman use the names of corporations like Google or Microsoft, and assumes Google or Microsoft are complicit in the conmans con. But the truth is, the corporate names are just tools of the conman.
And Fascism and Nazism are exactly that, cons. Cons to allow a clique to come to power and hold onto it as long as possible. And their followers are just marks.
</vent>

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 2, 2016 • 4:13:40am

It’s raining heavily here right now, second big rainfall in the last 6 hours. Watch your news reports for mudslides and flooding in southern China.

I live on top of a big hill, on the 4th floor. So, don’t worry about me.

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Ming5000  Jul 2, 2016 • 4:25:38am

re: #69 teleskiguy

Anytime someone brings up the “Constitution” canard to my face, I ask them if they’ve actually read the goddamn thing. “Not the whole thing, just the important parts” is a popular response.

You morons! 4,543 words in the original document, including signatures. 7,591 words if you count all 27 amendments.

I have never read the Constitution. Doing so now. Good reminder!

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lawhawk  Jul 2, 2016 • 4:43:46am

re: #20 teleskiguy

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 2, 2016 • 4:50:30am

re: #175 lawhawk

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Are there any Finnish or Hawaiian or Thai, etc., politicians with 17-syllable names? Their chances look good now.

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lawhawk  Jul 2, 2016 • 4:55:31am

Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. After a pretty eventful Friday night weather-wise, this morning has turned out to be absolutely gorgeous, and it should be like this all weekend.

Trump mirrors those around him. He gravitates towards conspiracy theories, whether it’s Birtherism or other stuff his friend Alex Jones throws his way. When you read/hear only conspiracies, that’s all you see. And his supporters have fully bought into this garbage.

He’s giving them exactly what they want to hear.

Fox, Infowars, Drudge, SMOTI. All of them are fact-free zones that pander to GOP core voters and their insecurities.

It’s why all of a sudden we’re concerned about MS-13 again? Or that Sharia law is taking over the nation, or that Obama is a secret Muslim who has no problem killing AQ, IS, or other terror groups with UAV and airstrikes (that’s all just for show).

It’s why tax policy is a conspiracy - if you know this one trick, you can solve the national debt and pay no tax.

Throw in autocratic tendencies and the need to reassert white male dominance in a nation that has seen moves towards equal rights and protections for all groups, and you can understand the GOP strategy. They need to keep certain issues active, or else their entire movement falls apart.

It’s why they keep trying to overturn Roe saying that making abortion illegal will eliminate all abortions, all while saying that gun laws can’t stop the daily carnage. It’s the cognitive dissonance that is an essential element to the GOP mindset.

Decades of spewing irrational hate, fear, and fact-free nonsense takes a toll.

And that toll is Trump.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 2, 2016 • 4:57:36am

re: #174 Ming5000

I have never read the Constitution. Doing so now. Good reminder!

Speaking of Constitutions…
Get an unannotated copy (no added BS interpretations)
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Can also buy in lots of 25 with free shipping

Or, you can order from the US GPO for $1.50:
1. Declaration of Independence and Constitution of the United States printed for the U.S. Department of Homeland Security, U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services
2. Constitution of the United States and the Declaration of Independence printed for the US House of Representatives (BACKORDERED)

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lawhawk  Jul 2, 2016 • 4:59:05am

As on cue…

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Dave In Austin  Jul 2, 2016 • 5:20:51am

re: #179 lawhawk

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As on cue…

Looks like there is some sort of auto “Delete Your Account” function out there that is flooding every tweet he puts out.

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lawhawk  Jul 2, 2016 • 5:22:10am

re: #180 Dave In Austin

He needs to delete his campaign and impact on society, but that’s not to be.

It’ll be up to everyone else to do that for him.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 2, 2016 • 5:26:32am

Public Assistance | Board Game | BoardGameGeek

A politically-motivated roll-and-move type game where players move around the board in two different tracks: “working person’s rut” and “able-bodied welfare recipient’s promenade.” The goal of the game is to have the most money after a pre-determined number of circuits around the board have been achieved. The spaces on the board contain various instructions on where to move your piece or how much money to receive or pay out. Players also collect “welfare benefit” and “working person’s burden” cards as they progress around the board. The situations presented in the game ridicule the American welfare system and are very “politically incorrect”.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 2, 2016 • 5:34:57am

Speaking of politically incorrect …

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Teukka  Jul 2, 2016 • 5:36:16am

re: #183 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Speaking of politically incorrect …

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What next? Going to pay his respects to Timothy McVeigh?

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Nyet  Jul 2, 2016 • 5:37:17am

re: #183 wheat-dogghazi-mailgate

Branch Davidians sure managed to overthrow the tyranny with their guns.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Jul 2, 2016 • 5:59:34am

re: #185 Nyet

Branch Davidians sure managed to overthrow the tyranny with their guns.

They were just quietly exercising their religious freedom and the tyrannical government came along and attacked them for no reason…

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Dave In Austin  Jul 2, 2016 • 5:59:59am

re: #185 Nyet

Branch Davidians sure managed to overthrow the tyranny with their guns.

Not to mention the child abuse that was taking place there.

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Teukka  Jul 2, 2016 • 6:00:51am

re: #187 Dave In Austin

Not to mention the child abuse that was taking place there.

Child sexual abuse.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 2, 2016 • 6:00:55am

I wonder if Rage Furby is veering into sov cit territory now.

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Nyet  Jul 2, 2016 • 6:02:40am

re: #188 Teukka

Suffer[,] little children…

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MsJ  Jul 2, 2016 • 6:35:55am

re: #167 Alyosha

From that article, and why Rupert Murdoch is such a danger:

This evening a sign was stuck to Mr Windsor’s campaign office door which read, “No access to News Limited Media”.

When asked by the ABC’s Leigh Sales why he would post such a sign on his door, he replied he did not want News Corp there and that his team “pay the rent” for the building.

Earlier this week The Australian newspaper published an article alleging that Mr Windsor had bullied and whipped school mates at an agricultural high school in north-west New South Wales.

Mr Windsor said at the time he would not respond to the “gutter journalism in The Australian” and he has referred the article to his legal advisers.

I know nothing about this losing politician but I know I don’t want some newspaper hack, who after that bit in England shouldn’t be allowed to own any media outlets, deciding who should and should not be elected. Especially Murdoch.

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wheat-dogghazi-mailgate  Jul 2, 2016 • 6:47:45am

re: #191 MsJ

From that article, and why Rupert Murdoch is such a danger:

I know nothing about this losing politician but I know I don’t want some newspaper hack, who after that bit in England shouldn’t be allowed to own any media outlets, deciding who should and should not be elected. Especially Murdoch.

When I see Jonathan Pryce playing the power-hungry religious leader of Game of Thrones [now out of the picture], I think of him playing a power-hungry media mogul in Tomorrow Never Dies. His latter role was a not very subtle reference to Rupert Murdoch.

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Nyet  Jul 2, 2016 • 6:50:30am
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jaunte  Jul 2, 2016 • 6:53:36am

re: #182 FormerDirtDart

I’d like to see the Wingnut Welfare version.

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Alyosha  Jul 2, 2016 • 6:54:46am

Rabid right-wing hack and Abbott-backer, Andrew Bolt is already calling for Turnbull to resign so my mouth runneth over with imaginary popcorn.

Which would mean:

The idea that society at large should permit marriage equality (as in Ireland) through a plebiscite is pretty offensive.
Plus, the joy at seeing the conservatives squirming to form a minority government is almost as good as seeing the left win outright.

Still not a given, of course, but I can dream.

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Skip Intro  Jul 2, 2016 • 6:55:48am

So this morning I read that the far right Austrian Freedom Party (formed by former Nazis) gets a do over presidential election because their candidate came so close to winning.

These are dark days in Europe and the world.

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CriticalDragon1177  Jul 2, 2016 • 6:56:41am

First amendment champion” Bryan Fischer thinks that Bill doesn’t want his wife to be president because it would cramp his lifestyle and thus trying to get her thrown in jail

Yeah, never mind that it didn’t ruin his life style when he was president, and being president would be much harder than your wife being president.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 2, 2016 • 7:01:10am

re: #97 majii

I don’t see how Jerry Hall can stand to have him touch her. I figured money had to have played a significant role in her agreeing to marry him. I like money, too, but I also have some principles I live by that I don’t violate for anyone/reason.

Well sure, but we’re talking billions here. None of us can say for sure what we would do if offered a billion dollars. Anna Nicole Smith married a corpse. In box because it can’t be unseen.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 2, 2016 • 7:01:24am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 2, 2016 • 7:03:19am

re: #46 teleskiguy

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 2, 2016 • 7:04:01am

re: #198 Big Beautiful Door

Well sure, but we’re talking billions here. None of us can say for sure what we would do if offered a billion dollars. Anna Nicole Smith married a corpse. In box because it can’t be unseen.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 2, 2016 • 7:06:02am

This should be good…

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Alyosha  Jul 2, 2016 • 7:07:17am

And like herpes…

Just another racist, red-mopped buffoon.

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CriticalDragon1177  Jul 2, 2016 • 7:07:36am

All things must come to an end.

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Dr Lizardo  Jul 2, 2016 • 7:08:12am

Sigh…….it looks like another Andrea Yates-type case, a family annihilator, this time in Memphis, TN.

A mother has been held after four babies were found stabbed to death in a gated apartment complex.

Officers said they were “shocked to the core” after discovering the tragic tots at a home in a quiet neighbourhood in Memphis.

While officials have not yet released names or ages of the mother or the victims, they have described the children as “babies.”

They took the mother into custody after finding the children’s bodies just after 12.50pm yesterday.

mirror.co.uk

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Decatur Deb  Jul 2, 2016 • 7:09:49am

Son2 relays a reddit comment on 1%er labor stress:

Bill Gates wakes up one morning, goes downstairs and is shocked to see his two polish housekeepers are nowhere to be seen.

He yells for his wife “Honey, where the hell have the maids gone?”

“Oh, Steve Jobs knocked on the door this morning” Replied his wife. “He offered both the house keepers twice what you’re paying them to come and work for him, they couldn’t pass the offer up!”

Furious, Bill slams his fists down on the table “Fucking Jobs!” he screams “Coming over here and taking our immigrants!”

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CriticalDragon1177  Jul 2, 2016 • 7:10:04am
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CriticalDragon1177  Jul 2, 2016 • 7:12:41am

This is America! Even our cakes have to be patriotic!

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 2, 2016 • 7:13:03am

At the very end of the article:

But for all of his fascination with the president’s birth certificate, Mr. Trump apparently never dispatched investigators or made much of an effort to find the documents.

Dr. Alvin Onaka, the Hawaii state registrar who handled queries about Mr. Obama, said recently through a spokeswoman that he had no evidence or recollection of Mr. Trump or any of his representatives ever requesting the records from the Hawaii State Department of Health.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 2, 2016 • 7:14:12am

re: #199 Backwoods_Sleuth

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MsJ  Jul 2, 2016 • 7:14:27am

re: #194 jaunte

I’d like to see the Wingnut Welfare version.

Easy peasy:

Complain about government; cash Social Security check.

Vote for the Rightest person who cuts your Social Security. Blame Libtards!

Complain about government; go to Medicare Doctor.

Fight Sharia law, vote for a Christian theocrat.

You get the idea.

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No Country For Old Haters  Jul 2, 2016 • 7:14:43am

re: #179 lawhawk

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As on cue…

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jeffreyw  Jul 2, 2016 • 7:26:04am

Imgur

Good morning already? And no damn “sleeping together” jokes, not in the mood.

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jaunte  Jul 2, 2016 • 7:30:36am

re: #210 FormerDirtDart

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Nyet  Jul 2, 2016 • 7:42:07am

It’s the prolly same as with that infamous tweet: someone at some neo-Nazi forum made the image, Trump’s supporters tweeted it out, Trump took the image from the supporters. He never learns.

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jaunte  Jul 2, 2016 • 7:42:31am

This could make TrumpWall a bit costlier.

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Nyet  Jul 2, 2016 • 7:48:47am

Fuck Bernie.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 2, 2016 • 7:54:05am

re: #207 CriticalDragon1177

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How brave of them to come out against segregation in the year 2016./

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sagehen  Jul 2, 2016 • 7:59:01am

re: #218 Big Beautiful Door

How brave of them to come out against segregation in the year 2016./

Southern Baptists were so much braver; they declared in 1995 that they realized now that scripture does not, in fact, require segregation. “We’ve been reading it wrong; so sorry, our bad.”

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 2, 2016 • 7:59:34am

re: #216 jaunte

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This could make TrumpWall a bit costlier.

I guess he’ll have to dust off Walker’s plan for the northern wall.

And Canada will pay for it!

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calochortus  Jul 2, 2016 • 8:00:47am

re: #217 Nyet

Fuck Bernie.

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I wonder why major food producers don’t just slap a label on everything saying that it could contain GMO ingredients.
Quick, inexpensive, complies with the law while rendering it completely ineffective.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 2, 2016 • 8:02:24am

1st stage of Tour de France closing on finish at Utah Beach.
Remembering my time there.
As the sun rose we ran down along to top of the German defensive positions, then returned running along the waterline.

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Smith25's Liberal Thighs  Jul 2, 2016 • 8:03:16am

re: #217 Nyet

Fuck Bernie.

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Did someone take away his seedless grapes again?

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William Lewis  Jul 2, 2016 • 8:04:31am

re: #218 Big Beautiful Door

How brave of them to come out against segregation in the year 2016./

Sunday morning (aka Christian church services) remains the most segregated time in America. Only with rare occasions (Grace Episcopal in Madison is fairly diverse by church standards but still was mostly white when I was there.) churches are as closely divided by race and ethnicity as they are by denominational lines. Growing up there was a Norwegian Lutheran Church next door to a German Lutheran Church (the Swedish one was just down the block) and you’d better go to the right one. We were pretty homogeneous racially yet we still segregated ourselves. The Catholics in a way were worse with one church for most Immigrants and another for the Irish and another for the Germans…

(I’m reminded that we didn’t have enough blacks for the KKK to hate on them in the 20’s up here in northern Wisconsin so they abused the Catholics, especially Polish Catholics, instead.)

So if they follow up their mea culpa with actual repentance (ie turning the other way) and work to fight that segregation in all it’s forms? Well, then, yes it will be a big thing because they will be doing what the Christian message says they should be doing according to Galatians 3:28.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 2, 2016 • 8:07:40am
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Romantic Heretic  Jul 2, 2016 • 8:10:27am

re: #80 Eric The Fruit Bat

I’m very proud of my country for its reaction to that crisis.

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Teukka  Jul 2, 2016 • 8:11:46am

re: #207 CriticalDragon1177

This quote, allegedly on how to detect abolisionists in the confederates midst is literaly timeless

The liberal delights to talk about making God relevant to our day and his idea of making the Gospel relevant is finding in it the proper social messages for the issues of the day. Thus the liberal minister will be frequently found leading racial demonstrations … In general, then, the liberal supports radical political, social, and economic progress, and he will join the chorus that conservatives are dangerous extremists.

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Romantic Heretic  Jul 2, 2016 • 8:13:05am

re: #83 teleskiguy

Few people mention that Joe Kennedy was looking forward with great anticipation for Britain to lose the Battle of Britain, Operation Sealion to succeed and jackboots on Whitehall.

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Nyet  Jul 2, 2016 • 8:13:21am

→ Bernie uses anti-GMO rhetoric →
↑                                                            ↓
←        GMO can solve hunger       ←

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Romantic Heretic  Jul 2, 2016 • 8:14:57am

re: #87 jaunte

Wow! I say again, Wow!

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Romantic Heretic  Jul 2, 2016 • 8:16:44am

re: #93 teleskiguy

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Now thinking of the joke with the punchline, “Oh we’ve already determined that. Now we’re just haggling over the price.”

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Teukka  Jul 2, 2016 • 8:19:27am

OT, I know. I know, source is a little so-so, but…
Kremlin admits Snowden is a Russian agent

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 2, 2016 • 8:24:26am

too late, Donald. Everyone has already seen your Star of David version…

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HappyWarrior  Jul 2, 2016 • 8:24:35am

re: #229 Nyet

→ Bernie uses anti-GMO rhetoric →
↑                                                            ↓
←        GMO can solve hunger       ←

That’s why I don’t like the anti-GMO movement.

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BeachDem  Jul 2, 2016 • 8:24:45am

re: #202 Backwoods_Sleuth

This should be good…

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Shouldn’t a presidential candidate be, ya know, putting a campaign staff/ground game together instead of worrying/obsessing about who is going to speak at the damn convention? Oh wait, it’s Trump. Never mind.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 2, 2016 • 8:24:59am

re: #233 Backwoods_Sleuth

too late, Donald. Everyone has already seen your Star of David version…

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Internet is forever Donald.

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Nyet  Jul 2, 2016 • 8:25:59am

re: #232 Teukka

OT, I know. I know, source is a little so-so, but…
Kremlin admits Snowden is a Russian agent

A speculation on the part of a Russian deputy (“I think he shared”) does not equal an admission of the Kremlin.

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Romantic Heretic  Jul 2, 2016 • 8:26:02am

re: #149 MadMs

Ok, I’m just going to dive right in. I’ve lurked here for the past year, so I do know some of your names.

I’m a misplaced NY LIer living in Madison, Dane County, WI. Yes, land of Walker.

I bring local micro brews, lol, even if I don’t drink beer. (ducks)

Since I grew up on LI, Suffolk county, I truly know a good pizza, and it does NOT have pineapple and ham on the MF.

I now await getting picked on as a noob.

Welcome hatchling. I never pick on noobs. We were all noobs once.

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Ziggy_TARDIS  Jul 2, 2016 • 8:28:10am

I had this realization for a while but wanted to share it.

The Jedis from Star Wars greatly resemble the Janissaries from the real-life Ottoman Empire.

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Smith25's Liberal Thighs  Jul 2, 2016 • 8:28:56am
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Alephnaught  Jul 2, 2016 • 8:30:58am

Was at Edinburgh Pride today.

Instagram

Happy Edinburgh Pride! #photo #iphoneography

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HappyWarrior  Jul 2, 2016 • 8:31:11am

re: #240 Smith25’s Liberal Thighs

100+ Nobel Laureates on GMO’s and GreenPeace

Yeah, I saw that. I trust the Laureates just a wee bit more than someone who read Anti-GMO bs and wants to spread what they heard to everyone in their email list.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 2, 2016 • 8:31:37am

re: #241 Alephnaught

Was at Edinburgh Pride today.

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Slainte Edinburgh.

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Nyet  Jul 2, 2016 • 8:33:13am

An interesting way misinformation works.
A guy says he thinks Snowden shared intelligence because security services have their ways.
An NPR person omits the “I think” part.
A loony right-wing professor who can’t keep his dick in his pants turns it into an admission on the Kremlin’s (??!!) part.
It is then reposted by Ukrainian sites etc. as a fact.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 2, 2016 • 8:34:44am

re: #244 Nyet

An interesting way misinformation works.
A guy says he thinks Snowden shared intelligence because security services have their ways.
An NPR person omits the “I think” part.
A loony right-wing professor who can’t keep his dick in his pants turns it into an admission on the Kremlin’s (??!!) part.
It is then reposted by Ukrainian sites etc. as a fact.

That shows the process of how misinformation can easily be spread.

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Belafon  Jul 2, 2016 • 8:36:37am

re: #172 Teukka

The Democratic Republic of North Korea.

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mmmirele  Jul 2, 2016 • 8:37:43am

re: #13 Charles Johnson

I’m planning to do a series of these posts, and the Arpaio stuff will definitely be part of it.

When you do Arpaio, can you take a side excursion into Dennis L. Montgomery? Holy crap, first the guy snookered the Pentagon into thinking Al Jazeera was using video steganography to communicate with Al Qaeda. And even after THAT was exposed by Playboy (yep, I read it on their website), Arpaio got snookered a few years later by Montgomery, who claimed he could show there was a conspiracy between the Department of Justice and Judge G. Murray Snow.

Here’s more on Montgomery, but it only scratches the surface: en.wikipedia.org The denizens of thefogbow.com have been keeping up with Montgomery’s antics, particularly in the Arpaio trial and Montgomery’s separate defamation case against Washington Post journalist James Risen.

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Nyet  Jul 2, 2016 • 8:38:48am

re: #245 HappyWarrior

Funny part is, Snowden may as well be a Kremlin agent, but Schindler’s lazy, sloppy, inept “interpretation” may be used against the idea after it’s exposed as wishful thinking.

Maybe Schindler is secretly working for Putin to discredit the Putin critics? //

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Teukka  Jul 2, 2016 • 8:40:49am

re: #237 Nyet

A speculation on the part of a Russian deputy (“I think he shared”) does not equal an admission of the Kremlin.

Hence my disclaimer, which should cause intelligent people to have some salt handy. :P

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Nyet  Jul 2, 2016 • 8:48:45am

Also: Schindler seems to pride himself on his knowledge of Russian.
In the NPR interview, on which he relied, Klintsevich’s words were mistranslated (by omission), but the audio version includes the Russian part, which Schindler should have listened to without relying on third parties.
And this guy taught NatSec Affairs?

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 2, 2016 • 8:52:41am

Don’t read the replies…

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Nyet  Jul 2, 2016 • 8:54:16am

re: #233 Backwoods_Sleuth

Posting the same pic, just edited, indicates that it wasn’t a random fan meme.
It was apparently made by the campaign. They don’t need to steal from Stormfront anymore…

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HappyWarrior  Jul 2, 2016 • 8:54:18am

re: #248 Nyet

Funny part is, Snowden may as well be a Kremlin agent, but Schindler’s lazy, sloppy, inept “interpretation” may be used against the idea after it’s exposed as wishful thinking.

Maybe Schindler is secretly working for Putin to discredit the Putin critics? //

Right, a wait and see attitude is a good one to have here.

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 2, 2016 • 8:57:17am

Wasn’t this a scheduled meeting?
I mean, hasn’t HA Goodman been ranting about this very meeting for days?

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Blind Frog Belly White  Jul 2, 2016 • 8:58:20am

re: #251 FormerDirtDart

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Don’t read the replies…

Let me guess - Jooze are the REAL antisemites!

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 2, 2016 • 8:59:44am

To late Donald…

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nines09  Jul 2, 2016 • 9:02:12am

re: #256 FormerDirtDart

To late Donald…

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Juice.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 2, 2016 • 9:03:24am

I know, Maher, but…

Bill Maher rubs California’s prosperity in the GOP’s face: ‘Scoreboard, b*tches!’

“After Arnold [Schwarzenegger] left office, we eliminated what scientists would call variables — in this case, the Republicans,” he explained. “Democrats from governor on down control every office and voting body in this state. So we can really study what happens when liberal policies are tried unimpeded. And the only thing I have to say to Republicans about that is: scoreboard, b*tches.”

….

“When he took office, [Brownback] said, ‘We’ve got a different way and it works.’ — and by ‘works,’ he meant it works the night shift at Del Taco,” Maher said, adding, “The band Kansas has more money.”

Bill Maher Brags to the GOP That Liberal Ideas Are Winning Out ‘Scoreboard, Bitches!’ July 1 2016

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nines09  Jul 2, 2016 • 9:04:41am
Make America Like Italy Circa 1925
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BeachDem  Jul 2, 2016 • 9:05:13am

re: #254 FormerDirtDart

Wasn’t this a scheduled meeting?
I mean, hasn’t HA Goodman been ranting about this very meeting for days?

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And why would Secret Service vehicle at Hillary’s house raise any suspicion about anything anyway?

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 2, 2016 • 9:06:45am

re: #259 nines09

The resemblance to Trump is disturbing.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 2, 2016 • 9:08:18am

Also, who wants to bet the Trump campaign tries to explain away the Star of David as a “Sherrifs badge”?

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FormerDirtDart  Jul 2, 2016 • 9:08:21am

Reminder to anyone in the NYC area.
Tonight is The Mets Fireworks Night at Citi Field.
it will be after the game is over, and the game starts at 7PM so I wouldn’t expect it before 10PM.
Many free vantage points in the area. And, if you take the 7 Train out to the area, display should be viewable from a number of the platforms along the line.

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Stanley Sea  Jul 2, 2016 • 9:09:40am

re: #262 Eclectic Cyborg

Also, who wants to bet the Trump campaign tries to explain away the Star of David as a “Sherrifs badge”?

Already saw some idiot on twitter claim that.

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 2, 2016 • 9:11:04am

re: #259 nines09

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Nyet  Jul 2, 2016 • 9:12:16am

re: #262 Eclectic Cyborg

He can promote swastika and his fans will say it’s just a Buddhist symbol.

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Nyet  Jul 2, 2016 • 9:13:24am

re: #265 Big Beautiful Door

This meme needs a third villain: Mantrid.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 2, 2016 • 9:13:39am

re: #265 Big Beautiful Door

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I’m no admirer of Il Duce, but he was Albert Einstein and St. Francis of Assisi rolled up into a big fuzzy ball compared to Ill Douche.

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lawhawk  Jul 2, 2016 • 9:18:34am

Trump officially operates from the KKK wing of the GOP. Suck it establishment GOP.

You own this - all the bigotry and hate you’ve cultivated carefully over the past 40 years is now in full bloom. Can’t hide it anymore.

And it is absolutely unforgiveable.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 2, 2016 • 9:19:24am
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FormerDirtDart  Jul 2, 2016 • 9:21:02am

Of course, Trump fans will also claim it’s all a “biased, lying, terrible, liberal MSM” smearing Donny with a fake story…

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 2, 2016 • 9:24:00am

re: #271 FormerDirtDart

Of course, Trump fans will also claim it’s all a “biased, lying, terrible, liberal MSM” smearing Donny with a fake story…

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Notice that he added #AmericaFirst to the replacement tweet.

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Barefoot Grin  Jul 2, 2016 • 9:25:12am

re: #224 William Lewis

Sunday morning (aka Christian church services) remains the most segregated time in America. Only with rare occasions (Grace Episcopal in Madison is fairly diverse by church standards but still was mostly white when I was there.) churches are as closely divided by race and ethnicity as they are by denominational lines. Growing up there was a Norwegian Lutheran Church next door to a German Lutheran Church (the Swedish one was just down the block) and you’d better go to the right one. We were pretty homogeneous racially yet we still segregated ourselves. The Catholics in a way were worse with one church for most Immigrants and another for the Irish and another for the Germans…

(I’m reminded that we didn’t have enough blacks for the KKK to hate on them in the 20’s up here in northern Wisconsin so they abused the Catholics, especially Polish Catholics, instead.)

So if they follow up their mea culpa with actual repentance (ie turning the other way) and work to fight that segregation in all it’s forms? Well, then, yes it will be a big thing because they will be doing what the Christian message says they should be doing according to Galatians 3:28.

This was very true for me growing up in a northern Presby church. Ironically, my generation—a bunch of pot smokers in the 1970s—got very religious, didn’t like the liberal trends and split the congregation. My parents’ generation saw their church losing members, but they have saved the church in some ways by inviting immigrants from Asia and Africa. The last time I visited I was impressed to see such a diverse congregation

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mmmirele  Jul 2, 2016 • 9:26:13am

I don’t know if this got posted yesterday, but I’m putting it here anyway because Trump is still keeping up with the anti-Muslim rhetoric.

Oh, and by the way, Donald Trump doesn’t “unwittingly” wade into this stuff, he jumps into it with gusto.

Donald Trump Says He’ll Consider Replacing Hijab-Wearing TSA Agents With Veterans

Donald Trump unwittingly waded once again into familiar territory Thursday: controversy, stemming from comments involving the Muslim faith.

During a question-and-answer session following a trade policy-themed town hall event in Manchester, New Hampshire, audience member Cathie Chevalier asked, “Why aren’t we putting our military retirees on that border or in TSA? Get rid of all these hibi-jabis they wear at TSA?”

Chevalier, the past state president of the New Hampshire Ladies Auxiliary Veterans of Foreign Wars, was referring to a hijab, the headscarf some Muslim women wear.

“I understand,” the presumptive Republican presidential nominee responded.

Chevalier continued, “I’ve seen them myself. We need the veterans back in there to take it. They fought for this country and defended it, they’ll still do it.”

Trump seemed to affirm the idea, telling her he would consider her suggestion.

abcnews.go.com
(it autostarts, sorry)

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 2, 2016 • 9:26:17am

re: #270 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Did I mention my son-in-law is a Jew? I love him; he never pays retail!

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blueraven  Jul 2, 2016 • 9:29:19am
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ObserverArt  Jul 2, 2016 • 9:30:23am

re: #259 nines09

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Seeing this images makes me wonder when Trump is going to start wearing a military type uniform and either a full peaked dress uniform cap/hat or a helmet like Benito.

Maybe some brush epaulets and a slew of medals and bars to really class it up.

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lawhawk  Jul 2, 2016 • 9:30:56am

If anyone thinks that Trump is a friend of Jews or Israel, this should put it to rest once and for all. He’s thrown his lot in with the bigot brigade and he can’t be trusted.

No one should trust him.

No one.

The only thing he seems to be consistent on is bigotry and hate. Xenophobia and nativism.

Strip away everything, and that’s all Trump has - the bigotry and hate.

Thanks GOP for 40 years of indoctrinating people to buy into this.
Thanks Fox News for spreading the know-nothing economic and social policies of a party whose entire identity is tied to rolling back equal rights and protections for others.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 2, 2016 • 9:31:30am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 2, 2016 • 9:33:29am
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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 2, 2016 • 9:34:51am

Yep, must be July 4th weekend.

My neighbor is blaring Lee Greenwood…

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jaunte  Jul 2, 2016 • 9:36:25am

re: #270 Backwoods_Sleuth

$94 soup.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 2, 2016 • 9:37:51am

re: #281 Eclectic Cyborg

Yep, must be July 4th weekend.

My neighbor is blaring Lee Greenwood…

I’m waiting for the Cincinnati people who purchased the farm down the road to show up and start their usual blowing up stuff.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 2, 2016 • 9:39:38am
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jaunte  Jul 2, 2016 • 9:40:02am
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nines09  Jul 2, 2016 • 9:40:17am

re: #277 ObserverArt

Seeing this images makes me wonder when Trump is going to start wearing a military type uniform and either a full peaked dress uniform cap/hat or a helmet like Benito.

Maybe some brush epaulets and a slew of medals and bars to really class it up.

He has his. Today’s Generals wear business suits. With a red ball cap to show solidarity with the common man. His big ass red tie and his big ass specially tailored suit to better present his big ass for kissing. He is a fascist. For real.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 2, 2016 • 9:40:23am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 2, 2016 • 9:42:07am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 2, 2016 • 9:42:59am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 2, 2016 • 9:43:42am
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HappyWarrior  Jul 2, 2016 • 9:45:06am

re: #284 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I like the one where the so called outsider multi millionaire bribed the AGs investigating him.

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blueraven  Jul 2, 2016 • 9:47:26am

re: #288 Backwoods_Sleuth

Journalism!

Gah. I am glad to see this thing coming to an end. It has taken way too long.
Hope it is all over before convention. Make Hillary the official nominee and beat the crap out of Orange man.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 2, 2016 • 9:49:19am

re: #289 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I see that by going under and then well outside the most intense part of Jupiter’s radiation belt on a polar, very eccentric orbit, Juno’s controllers hope to hold its exposure down to 20,000,000 rads for its 18-month mission.

Remember John Lithgow hanging in just a space suit in orbit around Io in 2010? Galileo determined at the orbit of Io, you’d get a median-lethal dose of radiation every 20 seconds.

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No Country For Old Haters  Jul 2, 2016 • 9:50:38am

re: #288 Backwoods_Sleuth

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 2, 2016 • 9:53:29am

Lawyer in Led Zeppelin-Spirit trial suspended for ‘serious misconduct’ in earlier case

The lawyer who failed to persuade a Los Angeles jury in June that Led Zeppelin stole the introduction of “Stairway to Heaven” from an earlier song by L.A. rock band Spirit has been suspended from practicing law. He was cited for “serious misconduct” and violating rules of professional conduct during a previous case.

Francis Malofiy was suspended for three months and one day after a federal appeals court this week upheld last year’s suspension by a panel of U.S. district judges in Pennsylvania.

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blueraven  Jul 2, 2016 • 9:56:48am

Preach it!

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HappyWarrior  Jul 2, 2016 • 10:03:20am

re: #296 blueraven

Preach it!

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*Sigh* BFD

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 2, 2016 • 10:05:40am

Town Relents, Reinstates Cat’s Library Job
Browser will remain among the stacks in Fort Worth suburb

Browser the cat sits among a group of children in the city’s public library in White Settlement, Texas. (John L. Mone)
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Barefoot Grin  Jul 2, 2016 • 10:07:56am

re: #290 Backwoods_Sleuth

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My alma mater…. A sad day for many from Japan to Georgia.

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blueraven  Jul 2, 2016 • 10:10:08am

re: #297 HappyWarrior

*Sigh* BFD

This was so obvious. But some wanted to maker her out as so dumb and cold that she needed an emotional cue from the teleprompter.

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Timothy Watson  Jul 2, 2016 • 10:17:33am
Williams’ final report focused on supporters of Bernie Sanders who say they plan to vote for Donald Trump in the general election against Sanders’ Democratic primary opponent, Hillary Clinton.

“I don’t get it,” Williams says. “How do you go from a left-wing progressive like Bernie to a man who worships money only slightly less than he worships himself? … They are literally the opposite people.”

Williams offered this analogy to try and understand the voters’ mindset: “Last weekend I wanted to go to this new restaurant, but my friends wanted to go to this old restaurant, and I got outvoted. So instead of eating with them at this old restaurant, I went into an alley and I sat down, and I ate a pile of dog s—-.”

tvguide.com

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HappyWarrior  Jul 2, 2016 • 10:22:21am

re: #300 blueraven

This was so obvious. But some wanted to maker her out as so dumb and cold that she needed an emotional cue from the teleprompter.

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Context is a bitch I guess.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 2, 2016 • 10:23:20am

re: #301 Timothy Watson

tvguide.com

Absolutely, I don’t get at all. I know Trump and Sanders have some overlap on trade but to go to Trump from Bernie is a real headscratcher.

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No Country For Old Haters  Jul 2, 2016 • 10:26:01am

re: #303 HappyWarrior

The only way it makes any sense is that some people just want a man to be in charge.

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Romantic Heretic  Jul 2, 2016 • 10:27:12am

re: #303 HappyWarrior

Both are promising a revolution, and power to those who are on the winning side when the killing is done.

Remember Mussolini was a famous and influential Marxist before he created Fascism.

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wrenchwench  Jul 2, 2016 • 10:28:27am

[…]

Despite the overwhelming scientific evidence in favor of the safety of modern agriculture, Clif Bar isn’t backing down. The company’s website contains anti-genetic engineering propaganda: “GMOs are simply the latest Band-Aid on a broken system — a faulty tool in the conventional, chemically dependent farming system.”

The multibillion-dollar organic food industry devotes massive resources to perpetuating the myth that 19th century farming methods make food healthier and better for the environment because it has to persuade consumers to spend on average an extra 50%, or more, for its products. Better to be guided by the facts instead of fears promulgated by self-interested food activists.

‘Scuse me while I go yank the Clif bars off the shelf.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 2, 2016 • 10:28:38am

re: #300 blueraven

This was so obvious. But some wanted to maker her out as so dumb and cold that she needed an emotional cue from the teleprompter.

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Just moments after she said “sigh” it was on Trump’s twitter TL that she read it from the teleprompter.

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ObserverArt  Jul 2, 2016 • 10:33:30am

re: #304 No Country For Old Haters

The only way it makes any sense is that some people just want a man to be in charge.

Or, are some of the Berners still thinking that a Trump presidency would so piss off the whole country the next election will be all for a complete left/progressive Shangri-La that will forever change this country to a socialist type government and we will never see money-grubbing conservatives in power again?

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 2, 2016 • 10:36:03am

re: #308 ObserverArt

Or, are some of the Berners still thinking that a Trump presidency would so piss off the whole country the next election will be all for a complete left/progressive Shangri-La that will forever change this country to a socialist type government and we will never see money-grubbing conservatives in power again?

“heighten the contradictions”

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 2, 2016 • 10:37:49am
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wrenchwench  Jul 2, 2016 • 10:39:54am

So the only unexpired Clif product I have out there is Clif Shot Energy Gel in the Double Expresso flavor. 100 mg of caffeine each. If I yank them off the shelf, as always it will be me who eats them all. If I start posting really fast with lots of typos, tell me to lay off the gel.

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Eric The Fruit Bat  Jul 2, 2016 • 10:44:46am

Wonder if John Menard is putting any money behind Hair Furor’s campaign after he fucked over Ivanka?

A bold and confusing stand for a multibillion-dollar company! The statement raises quite a few questions, as well: Will Menards only build this store if a Republican is elected? Or are they holding out for a specific candidate? There’s another relevant twist here, also: in 2013, Melania Trump, the wife of you-know-who, sued and then filed a $50 million arbitration suit against Menards owner John Menard after a deal that she had struck with one of his companies to produce a line of skin care products fell through. That dispute may have had something to do with this:

So… would Menards be ready to start building again in the event of a Donald Trump presidency? Or might they prefer Ted Cruz? I called Jessie O’Mara yesterday to ask. She asked me to email her my questions, which I did. No word yet, but we’ll update this post if we get any clarity.

It is worth noting that just this week the NLRB said that Menards violated labor laws by forcing employees to agree to mandatory arbitration, and retaliating against union activity, after it was reported last December that the company had forced managers to sign contracts that severely docked their pay if employees organized a union. The company is mired in a period of bad PR, of its own making. The last thing Menards needs is to have the dickens scared out of it any further!

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wrenchwench  Jul 2, 2016 • 10:55:01am
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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 2, 2016 • 11:03:42am

To mark the 100th anniversary of that ride, BMW and the Indian motorcycle company are sponsoring a three-week motorcycle adventure for women that kicks off Sunday in Brooklyn and will closely follow the original route to California.

It will be much easier than it was in 1916, when many roads were still dirt. The Lincoln Highway, which the sisters followed, was cobbled together in 1913 and went from New York City’s Times Square to San Francisco, but it simply connected local roads.

“They were literally riding on the very same horse trails that farmers used, and out West were covered wagon trails, unimproved, unmarked, unsigned,” said William M. Murphy, who retraced their route and wrote a book about it.

Daring to be great was part of the Van Buren sisters’ upbringing. Their mom died when they were young, and their dad raised them to be independent, athletic and strong.

The Van Burens flew airplanes, knew how to box, rode horses and raced them, ice skated, and even took part in an annual motorcycle race from New York to Poughkeepsie on New Year’s Eve.

At just over 5 feet tall and weighing under 120 pounds, the sisters (Augusta was 32 and Adeline 27 in 1916) were nevertheless tough. They had to be to attempt such a feat, aboard a pair of Indian Powerplus motorcycles, heavy, powerful machines capable of reaching 60 mph but with no front brake.

Dressed in leathers, the Van Burens encountered prejudice, getting arrested several times for wearing men’s clothes. They confronted obstacles at seemingly every turn, including rainstorms, floods and snowstorms. They battled mud for two weeks, were rescued by miners after getting stuck at a remote mining camp in Colorado, and nearly ran out of water in the desert near Great Salt Lake.

The rest of the story is great.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 2, 2016 • 11:05:02am
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HappyWarrior  Jul 2, 2016 • 11:07:07am

re: #315 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Yep it worked as intended.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 2, 2016 • 11:07:23am

re: #305 Romantic Heretic

Both are promising a revolution, and power to those who are on the winning side when the killing is done.

Remember Mussolini was a famous and influential Marxist before he created Fascism.

Fair points.

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ObserverArt  Jul 2, 2016 • 11:07:36am

Please let this be the last stage in this too-long drawn out drama.

Hey…is it a good sign that she got to come back home after the interrogation? I mean the way Hugh Hewitt makes all this sound she should have been arrested on the spot, tried and then taken out back for the hanging?

NY Times - F.B.I. Interviews Hillary Clinton Over Private Email Server

F.B.I. Interviews Hillary Clinton Over Private Email Server

The F.B.I. interviewed Hillary Clinton on Saturday morning for its investigation into whether she or her aides broke the law by setting up a private email server for her use as secretary of state, her campaign said.

“Secretary Clinton gave a voluntary interview this morning about her email arrangements while she was secretary,” Nick Merrill, a campaign spokesman, said in a statement. “She is pleased to have had the opportunity to assist the Department of Justice in bringing this review to a conclusion.”

The campaign declined to elaborate on the substance of the interview, which lasted about three and a half hours at F.B.I. Headquarters in Washington. Shortly afterward, two black S.U.V.s were seen returning to Mrs. Clinton’s house in the capital.

- - CUT - - more at link, but it is just a review of previous stories

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 2, 2016 • 11:08:58am
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HappyWarrior  Jul 2, 2016 • 11:10:10am

re: #319 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Yet Obama is the most Anti-Israel and Anti-Semitic president. Riiiiiiiiiight.

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allegro  Jul 2, 2016 • 11:12:10am

re: #307 Backwoods_Sleuth

Another Clinton error! Mistakes like this will put Trump in the WH! How could she be so stupid to not see this coming?!

/////just adding this to the list

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HappyWarrior  Jul 2, 2016 • 11:13:38am

re: #321 allegro

Another Clinton error! Mistakes like this will put Trump in the WH! How could she be so stupid to not see this coming?!

/////just adding this to the list

Reagan, Kennedy, and Lincoln never sighed, once. //

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Big Beautiful Door  Jul 2, 2016 • 11:14:21am

re: #320 HappyWarrior

Yet Obama is the most Anti-Israel and Anti-Semitic president. Riiiiiiiiiight.

I wonder if Bibi is getting nervous about backing the GOP? Trump also thinks Saudi Arabia getting nukes is fine.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  Jul 2, 2016 • 11:14:34am
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HappyWarrior  Jul 2, 2016 • 11:16:23am

re: #323 Big Beautiful Door

I wonder if Bibi is getting nervous about backing the GOP? Trump also thinks Saudi Arabia getting nukes is fine.

He should be.

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ObserverArt  Jul 2, 2016 • 11:30:58am

re: #323 Big Beautiful Door

I wonder if Bibi is getting nervous about backing the GOP? Trump also thinks Saudi Arabia getting nukes is fine.

He deserves to be sweating it for coming here to the US and interfering with our Government business by addressing congress regarding Iraq which was nothing more than a Tom Cotton/GOP stunt.

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Eclectic Cyborg  Jul 2, 2016 • 11:31:40am

re: #325 HappyWarrior

Let me tell you about bombs - I love bombs by the way, they can get pretty interesting - but the thing about bombs is they go off, they cause messes. They get real messy. Honestly I think most countries should have bombs and I’ll tell you why - it’s really a basic thing actually - if everyone has bombs then no one wants to bomb anyone. You know because if you bomb someone they’ll just bomb you back, then you bomb them back and so on and there’s mess after mess after mess. That’s why everyone should have bombs. Bombs are a great idea, they help keep things clean.

//

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HappyWarrior  Jul 2, 2016 • 11:32:55am

re: #327 Eclectic Cyborg

Let me tell you about bombs - I love bombs by the way, they can get pretty interesting - but the thing about bombs is they go off, they cause messes. They get real messy. Honestly I think most countries should have bombs and I’ll tell you why - it’s really a basic thing actually - if everyone has bombs then no one wants to bomb anyone. You know because if you bomb someone they’ll just bomb you back, then you bomb them back and so on and there’s mess after mess after mess. That’s why everyone should have bombs. Bombs are a great idea, they help keep things clean.

//

YOU’RE GOING TO GET USED TO BOMBS.

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 2, 2016 • 11:36:53am

re: #327 Eclectic Cyborg

Let me tell you about bombs - I love bombs by the way, they can get pretty interesting - but the thing about bombs is they go off, they cause messes. They get real messy. Honestly I think most countries should have bombs and I’ll tell you why - it’s really a basic thing actually - if everyone has bombs then no one wants to bomb anyone. You know because if you bomb someone they’ll just bomb you back, then you bomb them back and so on and there’s mess after mess after mess. That’s why everyone should have bombs. Bombs are a great idea, they help keep things clean.

//

Mutual Assured Destruction in a nutshell.

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SoundGuy 2016  Jul 2, 2016 • 11:37:05am

re: #319 Backwoods_Sleuth

Wow.

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HappyWarrior  Jul 2, 2016 • 11:37:47am

re: #330 SoundGuy 2016

Wow.

I wish I could be surprised but I’m not.

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SoundGuy 2016  Jul 2, 2016 • 11:38:26am

A right wing radio crank I used to listen to loved to say ‘An armed society is a polite society.’ Said with absolute conviction.

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SoundGuy 2016  Jul 2, 2016 • 11:41:00am

So if everybody has anthrax, nobody will get anthrax. Because we’d all die. And nobody wants to die, right?

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The Very Reverend Battleaxe of Knowledge  Jul 2, 2016 • 11:44:30am

re: #332 SoundGuy 2016

A right wing radio crank I used to listen to loved to say ‘An armed society is a polite society.’ Said with absolute conviction.

People seem to miss that without a code duello, it’s not an armed “society”, it’s just a bunch of armed goobers killing each other. The former is what Heinlein meant in the original formulation—see Beyond This Horizon. I’m not saying it would work in the modern world (and remember that was 1939), but an armed society doesn’t embrace “Second Amendment Solutions” for its problems.

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CuriousLurker  Jul 2, 2016 • 12:12:15pm

re: #319 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Thanks—just blocked around 50 accounts based on the responses to that.


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