The Bob Cesca Podcast: Brave Sir Donald Ran Away

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Today’s program from our podcasting affiliate, The Bob Cesca Show:

Brave Sir Donald Ran Away — [Explicit Language] Trump storms off after tough questioning by a reporter; Trump and Obamagate; The White House is loaded with coronavirus; Tests for the White House but no tests for the rest of us; Putin’s COVID plan for Russia sounds eerily familiar; Disinformation on the march; Bad Takes on Joe Biden; What a second Trump term will look like; Biden in the polls; Buzz Burbank from Buzz Burbank News and Comment is here; With music by Jones and Self Animation; and more!

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Rightwingconspirator  May 12, 2020 • 4:22:33pm
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PhillyPretzel  May 12, 2020 • 4:25:48pm

re: #1 Rightwingconspirator

And our dear friend CL would all over the accusers like a rash.

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Rightwingconspirator  May 12, 2020 • 4:29:41pm

re: #2 PhillyPretzel

And our dear friend CL would all over the accusers like a rash.

To this day she shapes how I look at things. Peace Be Upon Her

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Targetpractice  May 12, 2020 • 4:30:49pm

re: #265 lawhawk

They did the same fucking thing about Michael Brown. And Tamir Rice. And Trayvon Martin. And every other person of color murdered by individuals or cops, no matter the situation (just walking, jogging, playing, etc.)

Living while black means ceding your rights when a white guy thinks you’re a threat.

Which is the entire point of the “he was no angel” bit: Painting things in a purely binary fashion (“criminal” v. “law-abiding citizen(s)”) in order to maintain “moral superiority” by declaring that if you side with the “criminal,” then you’re wanting to jail a “law-abiding citizen.”

It’s why I said the other day it would be a “letter v. spirit of the law” trial, as the prosecution will be arguing that nothing in the letter of the law allowed the McMichael’s to make a “citizen’s arrest” and thus Arbery was simply defending himself against a couple of armed yahoos, while the defense is gonna insist that Arbery’s past acts make any of his actions suspect and so the McMichael’s were just looking out for their neighbors in trying to stop him until the cops arrived.

The former will dismiss the video as unimportant as the McMichaels knew nothing about it, while the latter will hinge their entire defense on the idea that Arbery was “trespassing” and ran when he got caught or was “scoping the place out” with the intent to come back later to rob the place.

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PhillyPretzel  May 12, 2020 • 4:31:14pm

re: #3 Rightwingconspirator

The same. Between you and her I have learned quite a bit.

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KGxvi  May 12, 2020 • 4:33:29pm

From the last thread:

re: #272 A Mom Anon

I do not remember who said it, but the saying was something to the effect that these fucking rich assholes will not stop destroying the earth until the only thing they literally have left to eat is their actual money. A nice big bowl of cash with a nice vinaigrette. John Muir warned us about these fucks more than a century ago. They won’t stop until they are stopped. That is the only thing that will work.

I’ve been watching a lot of Star Wars lately, and it reminded me of something I used to think about when I was younger… if you were to live in the Star Wars universe, would you want to live on a planet like Courasant - which is basically one giant city? Or would you rather live on one of the other planets that is more earth-like? My opinion on that always changes - like I sort of love the idea of a giant city planet, but then you get into the different levels of the planet (in canon I believe the planet has been built out so much that the only “natural” formation left is the very peak of the planet’s highest mountain), and how different life is for those at the top…

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Rightwingconspirator  May 12, 2020 • 4:34:29pm

re: #5 PhillyPretzel

The same. Between you and her I have learned quite a bit.

Thank you. *blushes* Praise I can only hope I deserve.

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Targetpractice  May 12, 2020 • 4:41:19pm

Remember when the models said 60-80,000 deaths and Donny declared that an “achievement”? You should, it was only a month ago:

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Rightwingconspirator  May 12, 2020 • 4:49:34pm

Wow.
dailykos.com

BRADLEY MOSS: Yeah, I’m sitting here trying to figure out what exactly constitutional deprivation was there? What is the crime that people think, you know, Barack Obama and Joe Biden are going to be prosecuted under? To be clear—and this is using the words of President Trump and his lawyers for the last three years—any sitting president can get any classified information they want. According to Donald Trump, they can launch any investigation they want. They can tell the FBI to pursue only particular individuals. This is not me saying it. This is what Donald Trump’s been saying for three years.

This was their argument during the Mueller probe. This was their argument during the impeachment investigation. That the president has this kind of authority. So what did we find out? That Barack Obama was aware about intelligence intercepts on the Russian ambassador when he was talking with General Flynn? That there had just been an attack on our election a couple months earlier? We were still dealing with the fallout of Russian election interference in 2016. There was a concern about a counterintelligence prom with Michael Flynn, and they had a discussion.

I’m shocked. I can’t believe they had that conversation. What is the crime?

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A Mom Anon  May 12, 2020 • 4:52:09pm

re: #6 KGxvi

Integrity is what you do when no one is watching. Since the birth of corporations, those who run them and those who enable them have proven to infinity how they will not do the right things unless forced to. This is a huge reason we’re supposed to have a functional federal level government, to protect us from this shit. Now everyone is so bought and paid for that there are no effective laws with consequences, real consequences, for those stuffing their pockets with money gained from destroying whatever they want to.

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Belafon  May 12, 2020 • 4:53:28pm
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  May 12, 2020 • 4:55:13pm

Her got worked up watching a political show. Who wants to get it was Fox News?

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PhillyPretzel  May 12, 2020 • 4:56:02pm

re: #11 Belafon

Please excuse my language but Mitch has had his head up DT’s ass for so long he can’t hear anything.

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austin_blue  May 12, 2020 • 5:00:02pm

re: #13 PhillyPretzel

Please excuse my language but Mitch has had his head up DT’s ass for so long he can’t hear anything.

I hope to Dog he’s wearing a mask. I can’t imagine what it smells like up there.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  May 12, 2020 • 5:01:33pm
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Sherlock Hound  May 12, 2020 • 5:02:20pm

re: #6 KGxvi

From the last thread:

I’ve been watching a lot of Star Wars lately, and it reminded me of something I used to think about when I was younger… if you were to live in the Star Wars universe, would you want to live on a planet like Courasant - which is basically one giant city? Or would you rather live on one of the other planets that is more earth-like? My opinion on that always changes - like I sort of love the idea of a giant city planet, but then you get into the different levels of the planet (in canon I believe the planet has been built out so much that the only “natural” formation left is the very peak of the planet’s highest mountain), and how different life is for those at the top…

I’d probably live in Nar Shadda. If Coruscant is described as a planet-wide city, Nar Shadda is a planet-wide apartment complex! Tales of Jabba’s Palace has a story with Greedo’s family set on Nar Shadda.

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Barefoot Grin  May 12, 2020 • 5:02:29pm

Anyone else here regularly skim twitter but are not a member? It is SO FUCKING SHITTY NOW. I don’t know how, but no matter whose feed I click I get bound up into an MSNBC/Slate loop. I like Joy Reid, but I don’t want to read her twitter. She shows up about half the time, sometimes both of her feeds are suggested. If I plug in someone I like who has nothing to do with those groups it still comes back. Or if I put in someone like Adam Serwer or Jamil Smith, suddenly it’s “black twitter” only. Something is seriously wrong now. Enforced bubblement. If I signed up would it get better? Is this a way of making me go crazy so that I sign up? It used to be much more open.

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DodgerFan1988  May 12, 2020 • 5:08:29pm

Nothing of value was lost.

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Dread Pirate  May 12, 2020 • 5:10:35pm
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Charles Johnson  May 12, 2020 • 5:10:42pm

re: #17 Barefoot Grin

Anyone else here regularly skim twitter but are not a member? It is SO FUCKING SHITTY NOW. I don’t know how, but no matter whose feed I click I get bound up into an MSNBC/Slate loop. I like Joy Reid, but I don’t want to read her twitter. She shows up about half the time, sometimes both of her feeds are suggested. If I plug in someone I like who has nothing to do with those groups it still comes back. Or if I put in someone like Adam Serwer or Jamil Smith, suddenly it’s “black twitter” only. Something is seriously wrong now. Enforced bubblement. If I signed up would it get better? Is this a way of making me go crazy so that I sign up? It used to be much more open.

One of the main reasons I use TweetDeck instead of “official” Twitter is this - TweetDeck is still pretty free of this weird social experimentation stuff they’re doing. Timelines are chronological, not ordered by some algorithm’s bullshit idea of popularity or whatever.

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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 12, 2020 • 5:15:13pm
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Barefoot Grin  May 12, 2020 • 5:15:48pm

re: #18 DodgerFan1988

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Nothing of value was lost.

I don’t know. Having gone through incredible struggles to get employment in academia, I am sure that a lot was lost. It was probably a last outpost of rationality considering they had to suck it up to work at such an anti-intellectual institution.

I work at a non-tenure institution as well. I’m already trying to calculate how many part-time jobs I’ll have to take until I get the “entitlements” that the GOP is even now planning to strip from me. Ok, that was a bit dramatic, as my employer isn’t going to target us as LU did their Philosophy Dept. But if the economy goes a lot darker, who knows.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 12, 2020 • 5:16:55pm

re: #17 Barefoot Grin

Anyone else here regularly skim twitter but are not a member? It is SO FUCKING SHITTY NOW. I don’t know how, but no matter whose feed I click I get bound up into an MSNBC/Slate loop. I like Joy Reid, but I don’t want to read her twitter. She shows up about half the time, sometimes both of her feeds are suggested. If I plug in someone I like who has nothing to do with those groups it still comes back. Or if I put in someone like Adam Serwer or Jamil Smith, suddenly it’s “black twitter” only. Something is seriously wrong now. Enforced bubblement. If I signed up would it get better? Is this a way of making me go crazy so that I sign up? It used to be much more open.

I’m not on Twitter.

Shitty now? Where have you been? /s

I don’t normally pay any attention to the recommendations that Twitter offers. I might look at one occasionally, such as when a recommended person comes up from someone at LGF who is there.

I am interested in looking at the Twitter feeds of certain politicians and occasionally opposition politicians (such as my state governor and senator, US House rep and both US Senators). I also tend to look at veteran groups, or certain veterans like @Stonekettle or @VFW_Vet .

Sometimes funny or interesting hashtags.

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Barefoot Grin  May 12, 2020 • 5:17:18pm

re: #20 Charles Johnson

One of the main reasons I use TweetDeck instead of “official” Twitter is this - TweetDeck is still pretty free of this weird social experimentation stuff they’re doing. Timelines are chronological, not ordered by some algorithm’s bullshit idea of popularity or whatever.

So maybe I should sign up and use TweetDeck even if I don’t really want to participate?

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Barefoot Grin  May 12, 2020 • 5:19:20pm

re: #23 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

I’m not on Twitter.

Shitty now? Where have you been? /s

I don’t normally pay any attention to the recommendations that Twitter offers. I might look at one occasionally, such as when a recommended person comes up from someone at LGF who is there.

I am interested in looking at the Twitter feeds of certain politicians and occasionally opposition politicians (such as my state governor and senator, US House rep and both US Senators). I also tend to look at veteran groups, or certain veterans like @Stonekettle or @VFW_Vet .

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Sometimes funny or interesting hashtags.

No, it used to be better and more free with more suggestions of people to follow.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 12, 2020 • 5:20:46pm

Yup, which is why they are so desperate to hide data and why I have no motivation whatsoever to leave my home unless necessary. I haven’t bought gasoline in six weeks.

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Charles Johnson  May 12, 2020 • 5:23:13pm

re: #24 Barefoot Grin

So maybe I should sign up and use TweetDeck even if I don’t really want to participate?

Might be worth it! I find it a lot easier to follow Twitter when I can set up multiple columns of content and fill them with what I want to see — people I follow, lists I create, or search results. It really works better for me.

For example, my TweetDeck window is now showing Notifications (when people reply, retweet, etc) in one column, my own tweets next to that, my direct messages next to that, my “A List” of people I follow for news and such, and fucking Donald Trump’s tweets in the last column because somebody has to keep an eye on that goon.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 12, 2020 • 5:29:49pm

re: #25 Barefoot Grin

No, it used to be better and more free with more suggestions of people to follow.

I’ll take your word for it, since I never paid attention to the recommendations (same with YouTube).

YouTube’s recommendations have always been crap. A number of videos have been made there showing how their algorithm of suggestions can lead a person seeking conservative content gradually more and more into fascistic content (the latter is aimed at gaining new converts to fascism). With such exposure, fascists and racists are making counter-videos to debunk the idea that they manipulate the YouTube algorithm (all YouTube content creators do; it’s why if you punch “atheist” into their search bar you get a whole bunch of Christian and Muslim videos aimed at converting atheists or condemning them to hell).

I try to stay away from Internet companies offering things they think I would like to see or read. I’ll stick to recommendations from friends (that includes on-line friends) or outlets I trust.

(8:05, Yannic Kilcher)

Auditing Radicalization Pathways on YouTube

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  May 12, 2020 • 5:34:08pm
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Patricia Kayden  May 12, 2020 • 5:34:37pm

Jerk

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Charles Johnson  May 12, 2020 • 5:37:10pm
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Jack Burton  May 12, 2020 • 5:37:23pm

re: #30 Patricia Kayden

Surround the plant with CHP and don’t let anyone out until they have been tested or 4 weeks passes.

Then put Musk in prison.

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gocart mozart  May 12, 2020 • 5:38:18pm
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Patricia Kayden  May 12, 2020 • 5:38:18pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 12, 2020 • 5:38:46pm

re: #30 Patricia Kayden

Jerk

Whoever’s insuring his plant’s property and liability seriously needs to consider cancelling his insurance for breach of contract (breaking the law).

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HRH Stanley Sea  May 12, 2020 • 5:38:52pm

OT but I’m reading Elton John’s autobiography “Me”

You of the age that know Elton well, this is a FANTASTIC read!!

Fantastic was intentional.

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Interesting Times  May 12, 2020 • 5:41:43pm

re: #1 Rightwingconspirator

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I’ve actually wondered if at least some of the pearl-clutching, fainting-couch freak-outs over wearing a mask were influenced by anti-Muslim bigotry. After all, they spent so long declaring that veils = oppression and there was no legit reason to ever wear a face covering, so…

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Dread Pirate  May 12, 2020 • 5:41:49pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 12, 2020 • 5:43:33pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 12, 2020 • 5:44:22pm
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Backwoods_Sleuth  May 12, 2020 • 5:44:50pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 12, 2020 • 5:48:03pm

re: #31 Charles Johnson

Correct. Propaganda, conspiracy theory, apologetics, or just plain lies do not go away by ignoring them.

Military and civilian intelligence do not ignore what an enemy is saying or doing: They analyse every scrap of communications so they can determine if they are true or false or somewhere in between.

Trump can’t be ignored. He’s the President (like it or not). When he speaks, tens of millions hang on his words; it’s imperative to listen to them (as distasteful as that is) to see if he is lying or telling the truth or something in between.

The same goes for the minor leagues of wingnut (and moonbat) blogs or ‘zines. Information which is simply ignored without addressing counterfactual statements will spread unchecked.

Sometimes mocking works fine though for a PRATT or anyone who quotes whale.to or writes something objectively insane.

My favourite response to “9/11 was an inside job!” and “jet fuel can’t melt steel beams” is snark. I once wrote a five-page takedown of the jet fuel claim on a Yahoo group which included research for everything from the design of the buildings and aircraft to looking up the burn temperatures of commercial jet fuel from petroleum companies. That didn’t do anything to dissuade the conspiracy theorist.

Now I just ask, “well how do you know? Do you really know what’s in the chemtrail tanks that commercial aircraft carry? No one knows what temperature that stuff burns at.”

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Chrysicat  May 12, 2020 • 5:49:55pm

IANAL, but did I interpret Trump’s and his attorneys’ statements correctly?

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 12, 2020 • 5:50:14pm

re: #40 Backwoods_Sleuth

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 12, 2020 • 5:56:10pm

re: #33 gocart mozart

Edwin Mix says, whilst I contemplate when he’s going to come over to my house to do that. /s

“Whilst” is a perfectly cromulent word.

I was accused once in a Disqus comment though “you write like you’re gay.” (I wasn’t aware Teh Geyh Agenda included a course on writing.)

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Belafon  May 12, 2020 • 5:56:47pm

Lawyer shuts down Fox News’ #Obamagate talking points in 60 seconds, leaving host speechless

Lawyer Bradley Moss was brought on to discuss the legal ramifications of a possible Obamagate. Asking what Mr. Moss thought of all the “transcripts, the notes we found the week before. Texts all kinds of things that now are raising a lot of questions from people about the Flynn prosecution and the Russia investigation.” Arming himself with every Trump law team argument over the past three years, Moss launched into a 60 second shutdown of every stupid conservative talking point on Obamagate.

BRADLEY MOSS: Yeah, I’m sitting here trying to figure out what exactly constitutional deprivation was there? What is the crime that people think, you know, Barack Obama and Joe Biden are going to be prosecuted under? To be clear—and this is using the words of President Trump and his lawyers for the last three years—any sitting president can get any classified information they want. According to Donald Trump, they can launch any investigation they want. They can tell the FBI to pursue only particular individuals. This is not me saying it. This is what Donald Trump’s been saying for three years.

This was their argument during the Mueller probe. This was their argument during the impeachment investigation. That the president has this kind of authority. So what did we find out? That Barack Obama was aware about intelligence intercepts on the Russian ambassador when he was talking with General Flynn? That there had just been an attack on our election a couple months earlier? We were still dealing with the fallout of Russian election interference in 2016. There was a concern about a counterintelligence prom with Michael Flynn, and they had a discussion.

I’m shocked. I can’t believe they had that conversation. What is the crime?

After that, Fox went to commercial.

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teleskiguy  May 12, 2020 • 5:57:32pm

Wildfire in Utah.

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Belafon  May 12, 2020 • 5:57:40pm

re: #45 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Edwin Mix says, whilst I contemplate when he’s going to come over to my house to do that. /s

“Whilst” is a perfectly cromulent word.

I was accused once in a Disqus comment though “you write like you’re gay.” (I wasn’t aware Teh Geyh Agenda included a course on writing.)

Stop using complete sentences, all the time.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 12, 2020 • 6:06:18pm

LOL

Piss Nazi Joey Salads is trending on Twitter under “Food”

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Dread Pirate  May 12, 2020 • 6:08:03pm
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teleskiguy  May 12, 2020 • 6:08:56pm

Fucker Tarlson seems to be advocating for having elections for… scientists and doctors?

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Patricia Kayden  May 12, 2020 • 6:11:10pm
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Charles Johnson  May 12, 2020 • 6:11:13pm
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The Pie Overlord!  May 12, 2020 • 6:13:08pm

Pineapple on pizza

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Decatur Deb  May 12, 2020 • 6:15:35pm

re: #35 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Whoever’s insuring his plant’s property and liability seriously needs to consider cancelling his insurance for breach of contract (breaking the law).

They most likely don’t provide their own power and water. Cut the mains.

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Jack Burton  May 12, 2020 • 6:17:45pm

re: #54 The Pie Overlord!

Salty/Savory and sweet food being combined.

Kettle Corn is evil incarnate.

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Patricia Kayden  May 12, 2020 • 6:18:58pm
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Chrysicat  May 12, 2020 • 6:19:27pm

re: #51 teleskiguy

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Fucker Tarlson seems to be advocating for having elections for… scientists and doctors?

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Decatur Deb  May 12, 2020 • 6:22:33pm

As an example of the delayed weekend effect on CV19 data management, Alabama reported about triple its average number of deaths today. Hope to hell that’s a reporting artifact.

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bratwurst  May 12, 2020 • 6:23:29pm
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plansbandc  May 12, 2020 • 6:24:02pm

re: #54 The Pie Overlord!

NO raisins. Do not EVER put a raisin in anything if you expect me to eat it. They’re the instant food ruiner.

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retired cynic  May 12, 2020 • 6:25:43pm

re: #61 plansbandc

NO raisins. Do not EVER put a raisin in anything if you expect me to eat it. They’re the instant food ruiner.

But I LOVE raisins! They are an especial delight cooked in a dinner dish, when that touch of sweetness pops in your mouth!

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I Would Prefer Not To  May 12, 2020 • 6:27:33pm

re: #30 Patricia Kayden

Jerk

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Who the fuck is buying a Telsa now? I want I really expensive electric car when gas is cheap. Fuck him.

My guess is that his board is going to slap him down sooner rather than latter, but who the fuc knows.

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jaunte  May 12, 2020 • 6:27:57pm
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plansbandc  May 12, 2020 • 6:28:04pm

re: #62 retired cynic

They’re OK on their own. But I can stand them in anything.

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lawhawk  May 12, 2020 • 6:28:11pm

re: #26 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Yup, which is why they are so desperate to hide data and why I have no motivation whatsoever to leave my home unless necessary. I haven’t bought gasoline in six weeks.

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We’re working on gallons used per month instead of miles per gallon. And this isn’t going to return to normal anytime soon.

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lawhawk  May 12, 2020 • 6:29:30pm

re: #61 plansbandc

Used to hate rasins, until we found a rasin challah, and then realized that it wasn’t so bad.

That’s the only use for those things - they are best suited being crushed, fermented, and consumed in an aqueous solution.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  May 12, 2020 • 6:30:37pm

re: #64 jaunte

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Right, Fucker, and who elected Eisenhower to be in charge on D-Day? Wouldn’t the voters have picked Patton? He deserved a chance is all I’m saying. ///

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jaunte  May 12, 2020 • 6:31:30pm

re: #66 lawhawk

We’re working on gallons used per month instead of miles per gallon. And this isn’t going to return to normal anytime soon.

I was just on a group call with some co-workers; everyone is noticing their productivity has gone way up during the self-enforced at home time because of the absence of a commute and lack of random interruptions while working. We might never go back to the office.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  May 12, 2020 • 6:31:42pm

Could a lawyer explain this please?

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Hecuba's daughter  May 12, 2020 • 6:32:36pm

re: #59 Decatur Deb

As an example of the delayed weekend effect on CV19 data management, Alabama reported about triple its average number of deaths today. Hope to hell that’s a reporting artifact.

It would make sense that deaths from Friday through Sunday night might not have a final report until Tuesday; it wouldn’t be surprising if there is typically a day lag on cause of death.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 12, 2020 • 6:32:50pm

The Nebraska Panhandle reports in with the 5:30 PM MDT report.

pphd.org

Confirmed cases: 76 (+1, age group 10-19, +1 Scott’s Bluff County)
Recovered: 47
Deaths: 0
Largest age group: 10-19

The overwhelming majority of cases are by close contact of family members or work places. Fifteen were either travel-related or community spread.

If such numbers are similar in other areas, the covidiot protestors are going to be spreading like wildfire amongst their own families.

Our tax dollars at work: Since the Blue Angels and Thunderbirds did not come to Nebraska to waste money on pointless jingoism support healthcare workers, Governor Ricketts comes to the rescue.

A KC-135R Stratotanker from the 155th Air Refueling Wing in Lincoln will fly over 15 hospitals from Scottsbluff to Omaha on Wednesday.

The flyover will begin at Regional West Medical Center in Scottsbluff at 11:32 a.m. MDT.

(more)
starherald.com

Hey, hospital and clinic workers are short on staff and supplies, but here’s an air refueling tanker for you.

They’ll be flying near or over my house on the leg between Scottsbluff and North Platte. I won’t be arsed to look.

Meanwhile, in the statewide update from 5:00 PM CDT:
nebraska.maps.arcgis.com

Total cases: 8,692 (+120)
Deaths: 103 (+3)

The three counties with the most cases are in order Douglas (Omaha), Dakota (South Sioux City), and Hall (Grand Island).

The deaths in those counties are different. Hall has the most (primarily meat packing plant spread) with 35, Douglas is second (airport, largest city) with 23, and Dakota is third (primarily meat packing plant spread) with 8.

Across the line from me in Wyoming, the state Department of Health notes new cases are “concerning” via the so-called dashboard button.
health.wyo.gov

Total cases: 675 (+1)
A massive surge in new tests today: 2,994 (yesterday: 1)
Hospitalised 67: (+1)
Deaths: 7 (no change)

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Decatur Deb  May 12, 2020 • 6:34:54pm

re: #69 jaunte

I was just on a group call with some co-workers; everyone is noticing their productivity has gone way up during the self-enforced at home time because of the absence of a commute and lack of random interruptions while working. We might never go back to the office.

Son’s USAF contract IT lab scattered because the host city was hit hard. WAH has worked so well they were given a stand-down day for delivering early.

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  May 12, 2020 • 6:36:52pm

Had gas delivered to the farm yesterday. $1.35/gallon ( minus tax rebate for farm use, so it’s really about $1.15). It’s $1.39 in town.

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Decatur Deb  May 12, 2020 • 6:37:36pm

re: #71 Hecuba’s daughter

It would make sense that deaths from Friday through Sunday night might not have a final report until Tuesday; it wouldn’t be surprising if there is typically a day lag on cause of death.

There is a repeating sawtooth pattern. Sat-Mon tend to go soft, Tuesday catches up. (US as a whole)

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HRH Stanley Sea  May 12, 2020 • 6:40:35pm

re: #17 Barefoot Grin

Anyone else here regularly skim twitter but are not a member? It is SO FUCKING SHITTY NOW. I don’t know how, but no matter whose feed I click I get bound up into an MSNBC/Slate loop. I like Joy Reid, but I don’t want to read her twitter. She shows up about half the time, sometimes both of her feeds are suggested. If I plug in someone I like who has nothing to do with those groups it still comes back. Or if I put in someone like Adam Serwer or Jamil Smith, suddenly it’s “black twitter” only. Something is seriously wrong now. Enforced bubblement. If I signed up would it get better? Is this a way of making me go crazy so that I sign up? It used to be much more open.

Sign up. Choose who you want to follow. It flows from there.

I love Twitter. So many great tweets posted by LGFers.

BUT
I only see the bad tweets here, posted by LGFers.

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I am that guy  May 12, 2020 • 6:40:42pm

Remember this? Lasted about 2 minutes.


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Patricia Kayden  May 12, 2020 • 6:42:27pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 12, 2020 • 6:43:22pm

re: #77 Omar Comin’ Yo

Remember this? Lasted about 2 minutes.

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I didn’t get one. Apparently that doesn’t apply to my town. /s

Tang the Conqueror needs his name on everything, doesn’t he?

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jaunte  May 12, 2020 • 6:44:14pm

re: #78 Patricia Kayden

Helmets and camouflage: enforced cowardice, WWII style.

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Decatur Deb  May 12, 2020 • 6:45:58pm

re: #78 Patricia Kayden

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HRH Stanley Sea  May 12, 2020 • 6:46:28pm

re: #21 Backwoods_Sleuth

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See?

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 12, 2020 • 6:46:56pm

re: #78 Patricia Kayden

She’s responding to the editor of First Things magazine, which Wikipedia describes as

an ecumenical and conservative religious journal aimed at “advanc[ing] a religiously informed public philosophy for the ordering of society”

He’s getting dragged in the comments by other Christians.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 12, 2020 • 6:49:19pm

re: #78 Patricia Kayden

(photograph)

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  May 12, 2020 • 6:50:57pm

Another insurgent mastermind removed from circulation.

Ohio man arrested for plot to kidnap police and stockpile their weapons for an ‘uprising’

On Tuesday, the FBI announced the arrest of Christian Stanley Ferguson, a 20-year-old man in Cleveland, Ohio, on charges that he concocted an elaborate plan to kidnap law enforcement officers, stockpile their weapons, and build up an arsenal to “start an uprising.”

“According to a criminal complaint filed today, Ferguson was identified after engaging in several violent and extremist postings made on the cross-platform communication application Discord,” said the FBI press release. “Over several weeks, Ferguson discussed his desire to call police to report a false crime was in progress to prompt a response by law enforcement. Specifically, he expressed an interest in a response by federal law enforcement because he believed they had better quality firearms and body armor to steal. He made statements about tactical options for killing multiple targets and the disposal of their bodies. He reaffirmed his plan to ambush law enforcement, kill them, rob them of their weapons, and start an uprising.”

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  May 12, 2020 • 6:51:49pm

re: #77 Omar Comin’ Yo

Remember this? Lasted about 2 minutes.

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I have a letter from the IRS sitting on my table.
I refuse to open it.
I’m sure it’s a “PRAISE ME” letter from Trump.
Considering writing on it “Return to sender. Unsolicited correspondence” and tossing it in the mailbox for pickup

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Jack Burton  May 12, 2020 • 6:55:12pm

re: #83 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Is that clown confusing actually WW1 and WW2?

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Joe Bacon 🌹  May 12, 2020 • 6:55:35pm

JJ on the case!

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  May 12, 2020 • 6:55:52pm

re: #83 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

She’s responding to the editor of First Things magazine, which Wikipedia describes as

He’s getting dragged in the comments by other Christians.

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Holy shit is he getting dragged. 😂😂😂

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Joe Bacon 🌹  May 12, 2020 • 6:58:41pm

re: #89 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Holy shit is he getting dragged. 😂😂😂

Deservedly so. What an arrogant ass!

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I Would Prefer Not To  May 12, 2020 • 7:02:30pm

I can’t deal with the hate and stupidity anymore. I’m logging off. See you folks latter.

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jaunte  May 12, 2020 • 7:02:42pm
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Barefoot Grin  May 12, 2020 • 7:03:06pm

re: #76 HRH Stanley Sea

Sign up. Choose who you want to follow. It flows from there.

I love Twitter. So many great tweets posted by LGFers.

BUT
I only see the bad tweets here, posted by LGFers.

Thanks to you and Charles Johnson for the advice. I’ll look into it. I have to be careful because I tend to spout off and don’t want to jeopardize my job.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  May 12, 2020 • 7:04:34pm

re: #88 Joe Bacon 🌹

JJ on the case!

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Different case. This idiot is in Michigan.

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I am that guy  May 12, 2020 • 7:06:26pm

re: #93 Barefoot Grin

You can do as many do and post no personal information. No personal pictures. No location tags. You can be a dog. A cat. A rock.

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The Pie Overlord!  May 12, 2020 • 7:06:49pm

re: #61 plansbandc

NO raisins. Do not EVER put a raisin in anything if you expect me to eat it. They’re the instant food ruiner.

You don’t get any of my cinnamon buns.

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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  May 12, 2020 • 7:09:41pm

re: #96 The Pie Overlord!

You don’t get any of my cinnamon buns.

I will take theirs

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Belafon  May 12, 2020 • 7:10:17pm

re: #78 Patricia Kayden

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 12, 2020 • 7:10:38pm

re: #87 Jack Burton

Is that clown confusing actually WW1 and WW2?

No, he’s responding to the Trumpian visit with World War Two veterans. His claim is “masks are enforced cowardice” and they weren’t cowards.

There was no pandemic in WW2. There was one in WW1 though, so lots of WW1 pictures of troop formations are going up, showing them in facemasks to combat the flu pandemic at the time.

First Things is allegedly run by Roman Catholics to be “ecumenical” with other faiths, but is hard-line conservative politically.

There are a number of Christians in that thread saying the same thing about First Things that former New York Times subscribers say about that paper’s nuclear takes: I’m glad I unsubscribed or I’m doing so now, including from a couple priests.

The overwhelming majority of the dragging is coming from Christians.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 12, 2020 • 7:11:49pm

re: #61 plansbandc

NO raisins. Do not EVER put a raisin in anything if you expect me to eat it. They’re the instant food ruiner.

Raisins: The pineapple of potato salad.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  May 12, 2020 • 7:12:13pm

re: #94 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Different case. This idiot is in Michigan.

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Yes it is a different case. Today JJ hit the jackpot or should I say crack-pot!

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jaunte  May 12, 2020 • 7:12:53pm

Just what we need in a pandemic, literal expressions of toxic masculinity.

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The Pie Overlord!  May 12, 2020 • 7:15:45pm

WTF is wrong with these people (Republicans, & I use the word “people” with great generosity)

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jeffreyw  May 12, 2020 • 7:15:50pm

Carrot Cake with Fucking Raisins

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teleskiguy  May 12, 2020 • 7:15:54pm

One of conservatism’s core tenets is being an arrogant asshole.

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The Pie Overlord!  May 12, 2020 • 7:16:35pm

re: #104 jeffreyw

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Those look like hazelnuts to me.

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jeffreyw  May 12, 2020 • 7:19:00pm

re: #106 The Pie Overlord!

Those look like hazelnuts to me.

They’re incognito.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  May 12, 2020 • 7:19:08pm

re: #100 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Raisins: The pineapple of potato salad.

Grandma’s Rice Pudding with Raisins!

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Chrysicat  May 12, 2020 • 7:19:29pm

I don’t have to wait for the music thread to post this, do I?

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jaunte  May 12, 2020 • 7:21:28pm

re: #105 teleskiguy

He didn’t manage to work ‘uppity’ in there, but it’s in there.

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Chrysicat  May 12, 2020 • 7:21:28pm

re: #100 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Raisins: The pineapple of potato salad.

There are people who put raisins in potato salad?

Then again, ours rarely even uses yellow mustard, instead relying on mayo and on pickle and onion flavours leaching into it from the chopped onion and pickle.

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teleskiguy  May 12, 2020 • 7:21:54pm

Hey, some pushback to the #FireFauci madness.

That’s… something.

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stpaulbear  May 12, 2020 • 7:23:07pm

re: #62 retired cynic

But I LOVE raisins! They are an especial delight cooked in a dinner dish, when that touch of sweetness pops in your mouth!

One of the treats we had when I was a kid was called ants on a log - a celery stalk with peanut butter on it and raisins on the peanut butter. I’ve been making it again as a lock-down treat.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 12, 2020 • 7:23:31pm
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FormerDirtDart 🍕🐀 No Capt'n😷Trips  May 12, 2020 • 7:23:45pm

re: #61 plansbandc

NO raisins. Do not EVER put a raisin in anything if you expect me to eat it. They’re the instant food ruiner.

re: #100 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Raisins: The pineapple of potato salad.

I don’t have any food pictures, so…

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 12, 2020 • 7:26:02pm

re: #112 teleskiguy

Hey, some pushback to the #FireFauci madness.

That’s… something.

Oops. Liz Cheney is not singing from the conservative hymnal. She’s getting attacked by conservatives on the thread for being insufficiently reverent to the conservative catechism.

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Barefoot Grin  May 12, 2020 • 7:26:42pm

re: #104 jeffreyw

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Oh for christ’s sake, is that coconut?

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Patricia Kayden  May 12, 2020 • 7:27:50pm

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Joe Bacon 🌹  May 12, 2020 • 7:28:13pm

re: #111 Chrysicat

There are people who put raisins in potato salad?

Then again, ours rarely even uses yellow mustard, instead relying on mayo and on pickle and onion flavours leaching into it from the chopped onion and pickle.

Mom’s potato salad was a whole day thing. She’d first take a whole bunch of celery, trim the leaves, crack the stems and slice them thin. Then Mom would julienne a couple carrots. Next would be a half dozen eggs boiled. Mom shelled the eggs and then sliced them real thin. Mom would next boil 2 pounds of sliced potatoes, drain then put them in a big salad bowl adding the eggs, carrots and celery.

Mom would use dry Coleman’s mustard and whip up mayonnaise from scratch then pour the dressing on the veggies.

Mom wasn’t finished. She next thin sliced green olives with pimentos and then chop green onions on top of the salad. Finish touch—dusted with real Hungarian paprika and poppy seeds.

If I only had a picture of Mom’s masterpiece…

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  May 12, 2020 • 7:29:49pm

You know what’s next, don’t you? Pineapple pizza with raisins.

Actually, since I relented on fruitcake, I might as well go full turncoat and endorse pineapple pizza too.

My grandmother used to make raisin pie, sort of like traditional mincemeat but without the extra giblets. My grandfather called it bug pie. It was pretty good.

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Barefoot Grin  May 12, 2020 • 7:31:08pm

“Almond Joy’s got nuts; Mounds don’t”—ok, setting aside the latent gendering, they BOTH HAVE FUCKING COCONUT IN THEM. “Hey, you have a choice of pineapple and non-pineapple pizza, but they both contain arsenic.”

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Jay C  May 12, 2020 • 7:31:10pm

re: #112 teleskiguy

Hey, some pushback to the #FireFauci madness.

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That’s… something.

*Something* to be sure- I notice the only GOPers even bothering to look like they’re not lip-fastened on Trump’s ass have been Liz and Mitt: I guess among the few who have enough of a secure power base in the Party to not have to worry about blowback from the goobers…

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Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel  May 12, 2020 • 7:32:00pm

My aunt made an amazing concoction from Coca-Cola, jello, plums, and pineapple, usually with nuts. It was too sweet for me by the time I was 9 years old.

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Barefoot Grin  May 12, 2020 • 7:33:10pm

re: #123 Shiplord Kirel, Friend of Moose and Squirrel

My aunt made an amazing concoction from Coca-Cola, jello, plums, and pineapple, usually with nuts. It was too sweet for me by the time I was 9 years old.

There was a time before acid when people didn’t need acid.

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Joe Bacon 🌹  May 12, 2020 • 7:33:45pm

Memories of Mom’s food…she made incredible lasagna almost a dozen layers thick and it smelled so seductive!

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jeffreyw  May 12, 2020 • 7:34:54pm

re: #117 Barefoot Grin

Oh for christ’s sake, is that coconut?

Coconut. Toasted coconut. The finest toasted flake.

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gocart mozart  May 12, 2020 • 7:35:42pm

The Big Lebowski - I hate the fuckin’ Eagles

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Barefoot Grin  May 12, 2020 • 7:36:46pm

re: #126 jeffreyw

Coconut. Toasted coconut. The finest toasted flake.

and old lace.

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plansbandc  May 12, 2020 • 7:37:10pm

re: #96 The Pie Overlord!

I don’t like nuts on cinnamon rolls/buns either. I’m a cinnamon bun/roll absolutest. :D

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plansbandc  May 12, 2020 • 7:38:52pm

re: #108 Joe Bacon 🌹

That’s a double whammy. Pudding with raisins. BRRRR

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  May 12, 2020 • 7:39:12pm

re: #127 gocart mozart

so what is the greatest AMERICAN rock band of all time?-

The Comets???

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jeffreyw  May 12, 2020 • 7:40:10pm

re: #128 Barefoot Grin

and old lace.

The lace is a doily under the cake. We are gentle, educated folk.

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plansbandc  May 12, 2020 • 7:40:16pm

re: #113 stpaulbear

Yeah, that was big with my Girl Scout troop.

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plansbandc  May 12, 2020 • 7:42:03pm

re: #125 Joe Bacon 🌹

I’m going to make some lasagna one of these days soon.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 12, 2020 • 7:43:06pm

re: #122 Jay C

*Something* to be sure- I notice the only GOPers even bothering to look like they’re not lip-fastened on Trump’s ass have been Liz and Mitt: I guess among the few who have enough of a secure power base in the Party to not have to worry about blowback from the goobers…

And neither of them will tag Trump on Twitter because they are afraid of him too. (As such, liberals will helpfully tag Trump for Cheney and Romney.)

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jeffreyw  May 12, 2020 • 7:43:18pm

re: #131 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

The Comets???

Humble Pie

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 12, 2020 • 7:43:19pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 12, 2020 • 7:44:09pm

re: #128 Barefoot Grin

and old lace.

I can provide the arsenic out of my kitchen tap.

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Barefoot Grin  May 12, 2020 • 7:45:08pm

re: #125 Joe Bacon 🌹

Memories of Mom’s food…she made incredible lasagna almost a dozen layers thick and it smelled so seductive!

I don’t remember the details, but my parents got a vertical freezer from some friends with the idea that they would by big cuts of meat for cheap during the financial issues of the mid to late 70s. Anyway, that didn’t happen, but every year we had a family reunion on my great-aunt’s farm with about 120 in attendance. My mom would prepare something like 10-12 lasagnas and put them in the freezer before we went. These were heated for the Sunday after-church last picnic meal. I think you can actually read about my family’s reunions and our scholarship fund in the NYT.

bANoHuIn7alObDhPy3WoWw0NHhyR6yZhDkjdxQ2kLMVhb+eiVugaiH1Pyw8UimfDwE0Su7rlOpB4g+NUeXmfMaZwXq2n0TLNpaclLF/axVwdGDdOs0KnDT6GOASmaMy18YAvxXs1XfpKVS3JWZ97CqujS4Crgpx0g6LD+QWA42TBW4zt9tFryg==

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teleskiguy  May 12, 2020 • 7:47:21pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 12, 2020 • 7:48:11pm

Trump’s “transition into greatness” tweet has been turned into a Website (by liberals).

Caution for LOL

transitionintogreatness.com

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Joe Bacon 🌹  May 12, 2020 • 7:49:42pm

re: #139 Barefoot Grin

I don’t remember the details, but my parents got a vertical freezer from some friends with the idea that they would by big cuts of meat for cheap during the financial issues of the mid to late 70s. Anyway, that didn’t happen, but every year we had a family reunion on my great-aunt’s farm with about 120 in attendance. My mom would prepare something like 10-12 lasagnas and put them in the freezer before we went. These were heated for the Sunday after-church last picnic meal. I think you can actually read about my family’s reunions and our scholarship fund in the NYT.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 12, 2020 • 7:53:09pm

It’s refreshing to see a “GOP in disarray” article. I’m sure whoever hit their head on a rock will be replaced immediately.

GOP split on whether to back Fauci’s or Trump’s assessment on reopening economy (CNN)

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  May 12, 2020 • 7:55:48pm

re: #137 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Good for them. Fucking Republicans.

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Patricia Kayden  May 12, 2020 • 8:01:54pm
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mmmirele  May 12, 2020 • 8:02:54pm

re: #61 plansbandc

NO raisins. Do not EVER put a raisin in anything if you expect me to eat it. They’re the instant food ruiner.

Oh my. I buy raisins by the two pound bag. That’s how much I love them. I would really like some rice with raisins in it right now, but I haven’t been able to find rice.

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FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  May 12, 2020 • 8:02:55pm

re: #145 Patricia Kayden

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Because the AR-15 is not really intended for self-protection?
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KingKenrod  May 12, 2020 • 8:03:16pm

re: #127 gocart mozart

REM - longevity + influential + commercial + artistic, success all around.

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Patricia Kayden  May 12, 2020 • 8:04:17pm
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 12, 2020 • 8:08:57pm

I found this to be a good article in The Paris Review (a magazine of fiction, poetry, and essays).

Fuck the Bread. The Bread Is Over. (Sarah Orah Mark, who writes a column on fairy tales and motherhood)

She applied for a university job in February. The interview process took three days, being introduced to people she’d never meet again and facilities she’d never use, because right at that time the epidemic swept across the country, and the job offer was withdrawn.

What does it mean to be worth something? Or worth enough? Or worthless? What does it mean to earn a living? What does it mean to be hired? What does it mean to be let go?

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Chrysicat  May 12, 2020 • 8:10:56pm

re: #141 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Trump’s “transition into greatness” tweet has been turned into a Website (by liberals).

Caution for LOL

transitionintogreatness.com

I’m honestly shocked that there aren’t 20 different transperson memes on that website rather than just sobering statistics.

Then again, maybe you have to be trans to immediately think that way when you hear “transition into” anything.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  May 12, 2020 • 8:12:47pm

re: #151 Chrysicat

I’m honestly shocked that there aren’t 20 different transperson memes on that website rather than just sobering statistics.

Then again, maybe you have to be trans to immediately think that way when you hear “transition into” anything.

I wonder if they take suggestions. The contact for the page is right at the top, so if you have some memes you could send them along to the owner.

rel123@verizon.net

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sagehen  May 12, 2020 • 9:11:53pm

re: #127 gocart mozart

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The E Street Band.

Velvet Underground.

Big Brother and the Holding Company.

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austin_blue  May 12, 2020 • 10:00:04pm

re: #84 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

(photograph)

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Why the fuck were they onto their way to *France* from the West Coat of America after the war had ended? Just curious.

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Jebediah, RBG  May 12, 2020 • 10:08:33pm

re: #153 sagehen

The E Street Band.

Velvet Underground.

Big Brother and the Holding Company.

13th Floor Elevators
The Kay-Settes


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