Video: Trump Prison Fears Mount as Judge Says He’ll Be Treated Like Any ‘Criminal Defendant’

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Blunt warnings for defendant Trump from Judge Chutkan in the election interference trial, as the first hearing in Jack Smith’s case was held today.

Chutkan warning she won’t allow a “circus atmosphere” and that Trump will be treated like any “criminal defendant.” MSNBC Chief Legal Correspondent Ari Melber breaks down the judge’s warnings and the ruling on the protective order limiting Trump’s ability to speak about the case and “sensitive” evidence. 

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1
PhillyPretzel ✅  Aug 11, 2023 • 5:17:49pm

Good. DT needs to learn that what he says can hurt him.

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Nerdy Fish  Aug 11, 2023 • 5:18:58pm

re: #1 PhillyPretzel ✅

Good. DT needs to learn that what he says can hurt him.

When they say, “Anything you say can and will be used in a court of law,” they mean anything.

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Charles Johnson  Aug 11, 2023 • 5:20:32pm

Judge Chutkan seems like she understands what kind of motherfucker she’s dealing with.

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Teukka  Aug 11, 2023 • 5:22:08pm

Anymouse, thanks for the following:

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Nerdy Fish  Aug 11, 2023 • 5:26:52pm

re: #3 Charles Johnson

Judge Chutkan seems like she understands what kind of motherfucker she’s dealing with.

Unlike Loose Cannon down in Florida, Judge Chutkan is a qualified federal judge who has been around a long time. She knows exactly who and what she’s got on her docket. She has a reputation as being an efficient judge who runs a tight ship.

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I Would Prefer Not To  Aug 11, 2023 • 5:29:32pm

I have a blue sky invite for any lizards that have been living in a cave the last few days.

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darthstar  Aug 11, 2023 • 5:41:28pm

re: #3 Charles Johnson

Judge Chutkan seems like she understands what kind of motherfucker she’s dealing with.

She does and she isn’t going to let politics interfere with the criminal defendant’s trial.

Cannon can delay all she wants…but precedent has been set.

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silverdolphin  Aug 11, 2023 • 5:42:39pm

re: #5 Nerdy Fish

Unlike Loose Cannon down in Florida, Judge Chutkan is a qualified federal judge who has been around a long time. She knows exactly who and what she’s got on her docket. She has a reputation as being an efficient judge who runs a tight ship.

History is going to compare these two judges in really interesting ways, I expect. I do not expect Cannon to come off well.

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Nerdy Fish  Aug 11, 2023 • 5:42:55pm

re: #7 darthstar

She does and she isn’t going to let politics interfere with the criminal defendant’s trial.

Cannon can delay all she wants…but precedent has been set.

I’m wondering how much the simultaneous court proceedings might push on Loose Cannon to straighten up and fly right. If people start drawing comparisons between the two courtrooms, one wonders if she has any sense of dignity and professionalism that might be stung by the results.

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Backwoods Sleuth  Aug 11, 2023 • 5:48:07pm

JFC

Mastodon

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Backwoods Sleuth  Aug 11, 2023 • 5:50:02pm

Mastodon

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Backwoods Sleuth  Aug 11, 2023 • 5:51:10pm

Mastodon

niterz, lizardz!

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Charles Johnson  Aug 11, 2023 • 5:51:11pm

re: #9 Nerdy Fish

I’m wondering how much the simultaneous court proceedings might push on Loose Cannon to straighten up and fly right. If people start drawing comparisons between the two courtrooms, one wonders if she has any sense of dignity and professionalism that might be stung by the results.

Hope springs eternal!

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Joe Bacon ✅  Aug 11, 2023 • 5:51:25pm

Sore loser.

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Belafon  Aug 11, 2023 • 5:51:29pm

We are watching Marcel the Shell with Shoes On. If you haven’t seen it, please do.

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Backwoods Sleuth  Aug 11, 2023 • 5:53:16pm

re: #14 Joe Bacon ✅

Sore loser.

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we see how well it worked out for that last guy

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Joe Bacon ✅  Aug 11, 2023 • 5:54:55pm

Talk of national abortion ban shows that Republicans don’t know what to do after Roe

Tuesday’s vote in Ohio, in which voters rejected a proposal that would have stopped movement toward enshrining abortion rights in the state’s constitution, is only the most recent in a series of events to show that states’ rights are not what the Republicans had hoped they’d be.

And now that states’ rights are backfiring in some states, some GOP voters are reversing themselves. They are warming up to the idea of using what they would call “Big Government” to get what they want. In the process, they are revealing their true position on states’ rights.

And that they don’t know what to do post-Roe.

After the Dobbs ruling, 83 percent of GOP voters said that politicians “should leave decisions on abortion restrictions up to the states” rather than “push for further restrictions on abortion nationwide,” according to the Post’s Aaron Blake, who looked at polling last summer by CNN.

But today, Blake said, the percentage of GOP voters who prefer that politicians enact a national ban on abortion “has doubled, to 34 percent. They now lean in favor of state-level restrictions 66 percent to 34 percent.” It’s another example of the rightwing media’s influence.

Blake is right to say that too much can be said of this. He’s also right to say that these things often start small and snowball. The GOP pushed to overturn Roe for decades without expecting to succeed. The next few years could see a similarly cynical push, paving the way, when political conditions are right, for what could be an actual national ban.

“Should the party continue to drift in favor of supporting federal restrictions,” Blake wrote, “that could apply pressure on congressional Republicans and GOP presidential candidates to move in that direction.”

But I think we should be mindful of the larger point about the Republicans’ true position on states’ rights. They’re for states’ rights when they yield the right results but against them when they don’t.

And we should also be mindful of this - they don’t know what to do.

alternet.org

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EPR-radar  Aug 11, 2023 • 5:55:28pm

re: #14 Joe Bacon ✅

Dear Mr. Bailey. Offer accepted.

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Belafon  Aug 11, 2023 • 5:55:32pm

re: #14 Joe Bacon ✅

Sore loser.

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How many Republicans complained about Judge Chutkan saying that the first amendment isn’t absolute?

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Barefoot Grin  Aug 11, 2023 • 5:55:53pm

re: #15 Belafon

We are watching Marcel the Shell with Shoes On. If you haven’t seen it, please do.

Heard a great review, but it fell off of my radar. On the plane I watched the Woody Harrelson remake of a Spanish film called Champions. I really enjoyed it. Check it out.

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EPR-radar  Aug 11, 2023 • 5:57:05pm

re: #17 Joe Bacon ✅

Same shit, different day. “States rights” to have slavery in the South, and a Fugitive slave clause in the constitution.

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Nerdy Fish  Aug 11, 2023 • 5:59:18pm

re: #14 Joe Bacon ✅

“I will die on this front porch before I give up any of my Second Amendment freedoms.” And nothing of value will be lost.

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jaunte  Aug 11, 2023 • 6:00:08pm

re: #14 Joe Bacon ✅

“Bailey has received more than $50M in support from cardboard box businessman Dick Uihlein”
en.wikipedia.org

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Nerdy Fish  Aug 11, 2023 • 6:01:54pm

Here’s a hint to the gun-fuckers who quote lines like “Molon Labe” at us liberals: When the ancient Spartans told the Persians to “come and take them,” they actually did.

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Joe Bacon ✅  Aug 11, 2023 • 6:05:36pm

‘Guess what she just did’: Legal expert says Fani Willis charged a Trump ‘warm up’ case

A legal expert on Friday said a Georgia case unrelated to Donald Trump could be a “tell” for a prosecutor investigating the former president over allegations he tried to overturn the Peach State’s 2020 election.

“IMPORTANT tell re coming Georgia indictment of Trump,” Norm Eisen wrote on his social media account.

Eisen suggested that a Fulton County Grand Jury’s indictment of eight suspected gang members in a pandemic unemployment insurance conspiracy scam under the state’s Racketeer Influence and Corrupt Organizations Act could be a ‘warm up’ for a case against Trump, perhaps under the same law.

Fulton County District Attorney Fani Willis’ office announced the indictment Wednesday.

“Guess what she just did,” Eisen said.

“Fani Willis is one of the most experienced RICO prosecutors in the country & so she knows to warm up a grand jury with another RICO case first before you bring them the big 1,” Eisen added.

CNN reports that Willis is likely to indict at least 12 people in connection with the 2020 elections case.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Aug 11, 2023 • 6:07:02pm

re: #14 Joe Bacon ✅

Sore loser.

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I’m starting to think that Republicanism needs to be defined as a mental illness in the next DSM update.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Aug 11, 2023 • 6:11:09pm

re: #25 Joe Bacon ✅

CNN reports that Willis is likely to indict at least 12 people in connection with the 2020 elections case.

C’mon Lindsay! You can do it!

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Charles Johnson  Aug 11, 2023 • 6:12:45pm

Sometimes it hits me again that this country elected someone like Donald Trump and can’t be trusted not to make the same mistake.

Damn.

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wrenchwench  Aug 11, 2023 • 6:18:53pm

re: #28 Charles Johnson

Sometimes it hits me again that this country elected someone like Donald Trump and can’t be trusted not to make the same mistake.

Damn.

We were not prepared for the post-Obama backlash.

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DodgerFan1988  Aug 11, 2023 • 6:23:51pm
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teleskiguy  Aug 11, 2023 • 6:25:52pm

Bluesky invite up for grabs.

Go.

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Shiplord Kirel: From behind wingnut lines  Aug 11, 2023 • 6:26:56pm

re: #14 Joe Bacon ✅

Sore loser.

Your terms are acceptable Mr. Bailey. Just ask Craig Robertson.

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jaunte  Aug 11, 2023 • 6:29:41pm

re: #32 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie

Your terms are acceptable Mr. Bailey

I heard that in Jimmy Stewart’s voice.

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Captain Ron  Aug 11, 2023 • 6:33:20pm
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wrenchwench  Aug 11, 2023 • 6:37:07pm

Mastodon

Mastodon

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Captain Ron  Aug 11, 2023 • 6:38:24pm
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Dave In Austin  Aug 11, 2023 • 6:41:30pm

Jesus!

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Joe Bacon ✅  Aug 11, 2023 • 6:46:03pm

re: #29 wrenchwench

We were not prepared for the post-Obama backlash.

I saw it coming because I saw Jesusbot family members foaming at the mouth and letting their racism run unchecked like the dam was broke.

I saw it coming because of the callers I deal with at work who loved shooting their mouths off about how they hated “N-Words”.

I saw it coming because of the hate that oozed from Rush Limbaugh and clones like Rose and Quinn in Pittsburgh, The Regular Guys in Los Angeles who were fired from KLSX for their racism and other Rush wannabes

I saw it coming because of the hate that oozed from Rick Wilson’s megachurch and spread throughout megachurches in the US.

I saw it coming from right wing websites like Free Republic, Drudge, RedState.

And I saw how billionaires poured endless money into amplifying the 24/7 Republican Bullshit Machine.

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Dave In Austin  Aug 11, 2023 • 6:48:52pm

Mastodon

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teleskiguy  Aug 11, 2023 • 6:51:45pm

Mastodon

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wrenchwench  Aug 11, 2023 • 6:55:41pm

re: #38 Joe Bacon ✅

You certainly have a finger on the pulse, there.

Trump’s involvement with Russia took me by surprise. Hell, the fact he got elected took me by surprise.

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Jay C  Aug 11, 2023 • 6:56:30pm

re: #23 jaunte

“Bailey has received more than $50M in support from cardboard box businessman Dick Uihlein”
en.wikipedia.org

That reads fairly strange: makes it sound like Dick Uihlein is an actual cardboard box (📦 stuffed with money, of course). Which he very well may be.

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The Ghost of a Flea  Aug 11, 2023 • 7:10:39pm
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Joe Bacon ✅  Aug 11, 2023 • 7:11:54pm

Just waiting for the Pittsburgh Version—a Primanti Brothers Pastrami, Fries & Cole Slaw version…

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ipsos  Aug 11, 2023 • 7:13:41pm

re: #44 Joe Bacon ✅

Guess where I ate lunch today?

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teleskiguy  Aug 11, 2023 • 7:15:08pm

Mastodon

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jaunte  Aug 11, 2023 • 7:17:24pm

re: #43 The Ghost of a Flea

PNWGuerilla: another rural life wasted on shooting and shitposting.

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Shiplord Kirel: From behind wingnut lines  Aug 11, 2023 • 7:19:44pm

re: #37 Dave In Austin

Jesus!

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Arkansas Negro Boys’ Industrial School

The boys lived in a 1936 Works Progress Administration building described by Time as “rickety”. Governor of Arkansas Orval Faubus (perhaps best known for his role in the Little Rock school segregation fight) visited the school in January 1958, saying “They really need help. They are using some old wood stoves which should be replaced”, but Faubus had in fact reduced the budget by $7,100.

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teleskiguy  Aug 11, 2023 • 7:21:02pm

Steve Silberman made me cry a few days ago.

Mastodon

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wrenchwench  Aug 11, 2023 • 7:23:09pm

re: #47 jaunte

PNWGuerilla: another rural life wasted on shooting and shitposting.

Shitshooting and shitposting.

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darthstar  Aug 11, 2023 • 7:28:50pm

re: #49 teleskiguy

Steve Silberman made me cry a few days ago.

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Days Between - August 1-9 - Jerry’s birthday to the date he died. It really is a special time of year.

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jaunte  Aug 11, 2023 • 7:33:04pm

@couts.bsky.social

Judge Viar, welcome to national press attention

MARION — In an unprecedented raid Friday, local law enforcement seized computers, cellphones and reporting materials from the Marion County Record office, the newspaper’s reporters, and the publisher’s home.

Eric Meyer, owner and publisher of the newspaper, said police were motivated by a confidential source who leaked sensitive documents to the newspaper, and the message was clear: “Mind your own business or we’re going to step on you.”

The city’s entire five-officer police force and two sheriff’s deputies took “everything we have,” Meyer said, and it wasn’t clear how the newspaper staff would take the weekly publication to press Tuesday night.

The raid followed news stories about a restaurant owner who kicked reporters out of a meeting last week with U.S. Rep. Jake LaTurner, and revelations about the restaurant owner’s lack of a driver’s license and conviction for drunken driving.
kansasreflector.com

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teleskiguy  Aug 11, 2023 • 7:33:06pm

re: #51 darthstar

This same thing goes down in December with Frank Zappa, of which I participated online for a few years. Zappa died on 4 December. He was born on 21 December. We call it Zappadan. Heh.

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jaunte  Aug 11, 2023 • 7:34:30pm

marionrecord.com

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Captain Ron  Aug 11, 2023 • 7:34:31pm
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The Ghost of a Flea  Aug 11, 2023 • 7:34:46pm

re: #47 jaunte

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teleskiguy  Aug 11, 2023 • 7:36:05pm

re: #53 teleskiguy

Zappadan will go down on my FB and Bluesky this year. 17 days, once a day I post a Zappa tune.

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jaunte  Aug 11, 2023 • 7:37:48pm

re: #46 teleskiguy

One of my mother’s watercolors; my sister and me hiking in the San Juan mountains,
summer, 1969.

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Dave In Austin  Aug 11, 2023 • 7:37:54pm
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teleskiguy  Aug 11, 2023 • 7:39:15pm

re: #58 jaunte

what a generous share

THIS IS BEAUTIFUL! Your talents have come into focus a little more. 🙂

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Aug 11, 2023 • 7:39:33pm

re: #29 wrenchwench

We were not prepared for the post-Obama backlash.

Which is why I change my registration from independent to Democratic Party.

No because I was fond of the Democratic Party, but because when Obama first ran it was clear that the racists were coming out of the closet in droves.

And the GOP, and many of allegedly neutral media, welcomed them.

So I knew we were in for a long haul of fighting back the atavism.

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jaunte  Aug 11, 2023 • 7:39:51pm

re: #60 teleskiguy

You can see the rain shower coming in the upper right!

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teleskiguy  Aug 11, 2023 • 7:40:26pm

re: #58 jaunte

my tear ducts in my eyes opened up

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teleskiguy  Aug 11, 2023 • 7:42:24pm

re: #62 jaunte

You can see the rain shower coming in the upper right!

Your mother was just as good if not better than Norman Rockwell.

I’m all kinds of emotional looking at these things. Pure beauty.

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retired cynic  Aug 11, 2023 • 7:43:42pm

re: #32 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie

Your terms are acceptable Mr. Bailey. Just ask Craig Robertson.

Have you ever heard him? We had that distinct non-favor in the last election here. He must not have two brain cells to rub together.

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Captain Ron  Aug 11, 2023 • 7:45:35pm
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teleskiguy  Aug 11, 2023 • 7:46:36pm

re: #58 jaunte

I think this is the coolest thing ever shared by a Lizard *at this moment.*

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darthstar  Aug 11, 2023 • 7:47:51pm

Greg Abbot scored another kill…evil motherfucker that he is.

Mastodon

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teleskiguy  Aug 11, 2023 • 7:49:36pm

No one wants a Bluesky invite? I got one.

I’m logging out at 9:30 pm MDT, which is in, like, 50 minutes. Then I’ll go elsewhere to hand out this stupid shit.

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bratwurst  Aug 11, 2023 • 7:50:19pm

re: #69 teleskiguy

No one wants a Bluesky invite? I got one.

I’m logging out at 9:30 pm MDT, which is in, like, 50 minutes. Then I’ll go elsewhere to hand out this stupid shit.

Hit me!

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teleskiguy  Aug 11, 2023 • 7:54:55pm

re: #70 bratwurst

R2l4OU5RbEsyb1VaTWtmdjlHRnljRUNvZTQ0NW1jUjB2RGsreUFBU3RGWnN5bFdsdE9ab3prTEJGWVBhekpDS0EwNFp1TVBrMVBkZk9UVko0SnlrZW1rNVp2RGp5djlaTnBjd2YyR1g2Y0E9OjokxRRh44lcpZ6WtLlTeC45

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teleskiguy  Aug 11, 2023 • 7:56:11pm

OK, someone took my bluesky invite

***smoke bomb***

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Captain Ron  Aug 11, 2023 • 7:58:33pm

Ha ha.

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jaunte  Aug 11, 2023 • 7:59:03pm

Mastodon

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wrenchwench  Aug 11, 2023 • 8:06:21pm

Mastodon

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Captain Ron  Aug 11, 2023 • 8:07:33pm
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Captain Ron  Aug 11, 2023 • 8:16:52pm
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jaunte  Aug 11, 2023 • 8:25:20pm

re: #77 Captain Ron

“The question is,” said Humpty Dumpty, “which is to be master… that’s all.”

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bratwurst  Aug 11, 2023 • 8:25:34pm

re: #71 teleskiguy

Thank you! Have been feeling terrible about continuing to use a service that a white supremacist bought to generate revenue for other white supremacists, but not at all sure where to go.

I’d only ever dipped my toe into an alternative before via Post..and that was enough to slow down my interest in other alternatives until things settled a bit.

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Jay C  Aug 11, 2023 • 8:25:41pm

re: #59 Dave In Austin

What did Joe say? I can’t get the clip to load

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jaunte  Aug 11, 2023 • 8:27:10pm

re: #80 Jay C
YouTube has it:

Joe Biden spars with Michigan autoworker over guns

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darthstar  Aug 11, 2023 • 8:32:08pm

Shorter Biden: “Don’t pull that dumbfuck GOP “Biden’s anti-gun” talking point with me. Why do you need a 100 round magazine to hunt, you shitty shot with no idea what you’re talking about.”

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Romantic Heretic  Aug 11, 2023 • 8:32:38pm

re: #14 Joe Bacon ✅

Promise?

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piratedan  Aug 11, 2023 • 8:35:24pm

re: #76 Captain Ron
If true, Vanderbilt is in some very deep shit indeed.

All those federals dollars that help keep the lights on, those Medicare reimbursements, federal research grants…

all potentially gone.

All they had to do was tell the State “Fuck You, HIPAA says no” and call the Feds.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Aug 11, 2023 • 8:36:05pm

re: #72 teleskiguy

Someone took mine too.

So that’s three I have lured into the den of iniquity.

I wonder how fast the user base of Blue Sky is now growing.

Bsky really needs more tools, more way to find things. They really need a “trending” capability.

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darthstar  Aug 11, 2023 • 8:37:51pm

re: #85 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Someone took mine too.

So that’s three I have lured into the den of iniquity.

I wonder how fast the user base of Blue Sky is now growing.

Bsky really needs more tools, more way to find things. They really need a “trending” capability.

I have a code available too now…so I guess that makes me a potential transmitter. Not sure how I feel about infecting others.

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darthstar  Aug 11, 2023 • 8:39:12pm

Mastodon

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Romantic Heretic  Aug 11, 2023 • 8:40:03pm

re: #26 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Categorized under ‘Addiction’.

Since they are hate and anger addicts to a person.

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darthstar  Aug 11, 2023 • 8:40:35pm

Mastodon

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darthstar  Aug 11, 2023 • 8:42:20pm

Oh, he’s losing his shit over Hunter right now on his platform.

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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 11, 2023 • 8:43:04pm

re: #38 Joe Bacon ✅

I saw it coming because I saw Jesusbot family members foaming at the mouth and letting their racism run unchecked like the dam was broke.

……….

I saw it coming from right wing websites like Free Republic, Drudge, RedState.

And I saw how billionaires poured endless money into amplifying the 24/7 Republican Bullshit Machine.

When our brother started using the term uppity to describe Obama’s administration and insisted that the president needs to be deferential to corporate leaders, I certainly feared for the future of our nation, but I thought it was going to be a “normal” GOP leader beholden to plutocrats, rather than a Putin-loving traitor and bully who wants to overthrow our Constitution, a Huntsman not a Trump.

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darthstar  Aug 11, 2023 • 8:45:36pm

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CleverToad  Aug 11, 2023 • 8:46:57pm

re: #46 teleskiguy

re: #58 jaunte

These are both great pictures!

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silverdolphin  Aug 11, 2023 • 8:53:25pm

re: #81 jaunte

YouTube has it:

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Video

Biden was dark Brandon before we even had a word for it. from 2020

‘You’re a damn liar’: Joe Biden lashes out at voter in Iowa

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So Cal Greek Hippie  Aug 11, 2023 • 8:53:54pm

Pizza and Salad at Toppers

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jaunte  Aug 11, 2023 • 8:56:13pm

re: #90 darthstar

He’s got a lot of shit to lose. It could take months.

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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 11, 2023 • 9:02:36pm

re: #55 Captain Ron

I know more people who have had covid this month than the last 3 years combined.

They all believed the lies that covid was over, and they all took masks off and went “back to normal”.

Have to say it was the postings here on Physics Girl that concerned me; I assume she was vaccinated and yet she is suffering from a terrible life-threatening case of Long COVID.

Few are masking these days; for those that are, there was this bizarre article. According to a study published in Frontiers in Psychology [in February]. “Our results consistently demonstrated that self-perceived unattractive individuals were more willing to wear a mask, as they believed it would benefit their attractiveness,” the authors noted in the report.

***Edited to add part of the original tweet that was omitted.

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darthstar  Aug 11, 2023 • 9:02:38pm

re: #96 jaunte

He’s got a lot of shit to lose. It could take months.

Put more psyllium husk in his diet coke.

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darthstar  Aug 11, 2023 • 9:04:59pm

Trump’s Truth Social tipped off FBI about the Utah asshole who got himself killed for threatening President Biden. Funny how that happens.

The social media company owned by former President Donald Trump in March tipped off the FBI about threats made by a Utah man who was fatally shot Wednesday by FBI agents as they attempted to arrest him for threatening to kill President Joe Biden, NBC News reported. Truth Social notified the FBI after Craig Deleeuw Robertson posted a threat to kill Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg Jr., according to a senior law enforcement official who spoke to NBC.

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darthstar  Aug 11, 2023 • 9:17:08pm

Yet.

Bedtime for me. Play safe, y’all.

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CleverToad  Aug 11, 2023 • 9:21:03pm

re: #58 jaunte

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One of my mother’s watercolors; my sister and me hiking in the San Juan mountains,
summer, 1969.

I keep looking at this, fascinated by how she conveyed sunlight and shadow.
Brilliant technique, beautiful result.

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Targetpractice  Aug 11, 2023 • 9:22:29pm

Ah, the stereotypical nosey old busy-body: “Yeah, I’m just going to come to the desk to grab a few things because I’m not feeling well so I can’t stay to chat…but I want to know all about the reason you’ve been away from work for a week without telling me ahead of time.”

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Captain Ron  Aug 11, 2023 • 9:44:39pm
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Belafon  Aug 11, 2023 • 9:50:54pm

re: #102 Targetpractice

Ah, the stereotypical nosey old busy-body: “Yeah, I’m just going to come to the desk to grab a few things because I’m not feeling well so I can’t stay to chat…but I want to know all about the reason you’ve been away from work for a week without telling me ahead of time.”

“The government was training me to be an assassin, but I had to go back for more training because I was killing dumb shits who asked stupid questions.”

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Targetpractice  Aug 11, 2023 • 9:51:31pm

re: #103 Captain Ron

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I think I might be more worried about dying from the venom than I would a prolonged erection. But that’s just me.

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Targetpractice  Aug 11, 2023 • 9:53:12pm

re: #104 Belafon

“The government was training me to be an assassin, but I had to go back for more training because I was killing dumb shits who asked stupid questions.”

“The answers to your questions in no particular order: No, surgery, and full Brazilian.”

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William Lewis  Aug 11, 2023 • 9:56:16pm

Each night we call many of the other decent hotels/motels in town and check occupancy rates. Just called the folks across the street - “yeah we have 106 tonight” I thought you only had 105 rooms? “That’s the problem” oops!

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Captain Ron  Aug 11, 2023 • 10:06:27pm
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I Would Prefer Not To  Aug 11, 2023 • 10:23:24pm

Gaetz can be trumps cell mate. No senate approval needed.

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Captain Ron  Aug 11, 2023 • 10:24:44pm
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mmmirele  Aug 11, 2023 • 10:37:32pm

Ammo[n] Bundy has been fucking around, and he’s now found out. I cannot find an article that details what this is about…yet, but it appears to be related to his shenanigans protesting St. Luke’s hospital.

However, the St. Luke’s hospital system took Ammo to court today to stop any sham transfers of property so they can collect their $52.5 million judgment. St. Luke’s sued for defamation and won a default judgment because Ammo decided he didn’t want to fight the suit.

Ammo says he has no plans to turn over anything to pay the lawsuit.

idahostatesman.com

ETA: This contempt of court charge has to do with his refusal to show up for the defamation case St. Luke’s filed against him.

boisestatepublicradio.org

I’d remind everyone that the sheriff of Gem County didn’t want to serve papers to Ammo because he was afraid for his people from the *cough* law-abiding *cough* Bundy.

Ammo has to either pay $10K tonight to get out, or he’ll be in jail until Monday, when he’ll have to go before a judge. I suspect he’s in for the weekend.

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Belafon  Aug 11, 2023 • 10:52:05pm

From John Cole, a WVU grad:

In other news, decades of financial malfeasance and bad management is leading to an absolute bloodletting at WVU, with multiple programs discontinued including MS and PHD programs in mathematics, the MFA in creative writing, the ENTIRE Foreign Languages Department, 1/3 of the English department, and so on. You will be relieved to learn that no administrators will lose their jobs, and the consulting firm they hired will be paid in full

Also, his mom fell and has a radial fracture just below the ball in her shoulder.

balloon-juice.com

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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 11, 2023 • 10:55:17pm

re: #111 mmmirele

Ammo[n] Bundy has been fucking around, and he’s now found out. I cannot find an article that details what this is about…yet, but it appears to be related to his shenanigans protesting St. Luke’s hospital.

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However, the St. Luke’s hospital system took Ammo to court today to stop any sham transfers of property so they can collect their $52.5 million judgment. St. Luke’s sued for defamation and won a default judgment because Ammo decided he didn’t want to fight the suit.

Ammo says he has no plans to turn over anything to pay the lawsuit.

idahostatesman.com

ETA: This contempt of court charge has to do with his refusal to show up for the defamation case St. Luke’s filed against him.

boisestatepublicradio.org

I’d remind everyone that the sheriff of Gem County didn’t want to serve papers to Ammo because he was afraid for his people from the *cough* law-abiding *cough* Bundy.

Ammo has to either pay $10K tonight to get out, or he’ll be in jail until Monday, when he’ll have to go before a judge. I suspect he’s in for the weekend.

This is tiring; too many people seem to ignore legal judgements against them. How is it that Alex Jones is still broadcasting and has not paid out anything. It’s an outrage that he is permitted to continue to spread his lies without any repercussions.

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Belafon  Aug 11, 2023 • 10:56:50pm

re: #113 Hecuba’s daughter

This is tiring; too many people seem to ignore legal judgements against them. How is it that Alex Jones is still broadcasting and has not paid out anything. It’s an outrage that he is permitted to continue to spread his lies without any repercussions.

We should start telling people that Alex’s true last name is Biden.

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Targetpractice  Aug 11, 2023 • 11:08:23pm

re: #107 William Lewis

Each night we call many of the other decent hotels/motels in town and check occupancy rates. Just called the folks across the street - “yeah we have 106 tonight” I thought you only had 105 rooms? “That’s the problem” oops!

We were already oversold but I had a room to upgrade one of the arrivals…and then the aftermath of our head housekeeper quitting reared its ugly head and I got complaints of dirty rooms within 2 hours that meant I had to transfer one room and upgrade another so now if all three of my remaining arrivals show up I’m going to have to tell one of them they’re SOL.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 11, 2023 • 11:08:38pm

In Nebraska, a judge is mulling whether it’s legal to send threats to publicly execute atheists and kidnap her children because one is a transgender boy (they accused her of paedophilia).

Judge mulling motion to dismiss lawmaker Megan Hunt’s defamation suit against Freedom Coalition

In Calvinball court antics, the courts here also decided that LB-574 (the combo hate trans people and ban abortion care) does not violate the state constitution’s rule against two subjects in a law because they are both healthcare.

Judge dismisses LB 574 lawsuit, says abortion and gender care are health care

Nevermind the whole conservative argument against both abortion and transgender care is they are not healthcare.

(Both articles Nebraska Examiner, August 11, 2023)

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 11, 2023 • 11:20:44pm

re: #21 EPR-radar

Same shit, different day. “States rights” to have slavery in the South, and a Fugitive slave woman clause in the constitution.

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Targetpractice  Aug 11, 2023 • 11:27:44pm

re: #116 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

In Nebraska, a judge is mulling whether it’s legal to send threats to publicly execute atheists and kidnap her children because one is a transgender boy (they accused her of paedophilia).

Judge mulling motion to dismiss lawmaker Megan Hunt’s defamation suit against Freedom Coalition

In Calvinball court antics, the courts here also decided that LB-574 (the combo hate trans people and ban abortion care) does not violate the state constitution’s rule against two subjects in a law because they are both healthcare.

Judge dismisses LB 574 lawsuit, says abortion and gender care are health care

Nevermind the whole conservative argument against both abortion and transgender care is they are not healthcare.

(Both articles Nebraska Examiner, August 11, 2023)

There’s always a “but…” in any law when a Republican is inconvenienced. The law says you can’t pass a bill that addresses two different subjects but Republicans don’t have the votes necessary to pass two separate bills so we just allow this one to go under the broad category of “health.”

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 11, 2023 • 11:28:29pm

re: #58 silverdolphin

Love all the GOP attempts to find Joe Biden guilty of Bribery. The Supreme Court has narrowed that definition so far that it is virtually impossible to find any politician guilty of bribery. There has to be an official act in direct connecion to the bribe. Only the dumbest polticians would ever be caught by this. As someone wrote, unless a gavel fell there was no bribe.

SO even if Joe was corrupt, he is smart enough to not be guilty of bribery.

That politician was found: Former Representative Jeff Fortenberry (R-NE1), who literally took a cash bribe in a paper bag from a Nigerian billionaire (they do exist) at an event in California.

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Targetpractice  Aug 12, 2023 • 12:03:08am

For folks who enjoy a bit of late-night “Eat the Rich” entertainment, here’s the second half of the video I posted a couple weeks ago of the couple living in a $500,000 house on which they owed $30,000 in unpaid rent being evicted to the tune of “I JUST NEED MORE TIME!!!”

Half Million Dollar House Evicted: Tenant is 15 minutes late and 29,000 Dollars Short- Part 2

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Captain Ron  Aug 12, 2023 • 12:09:42am
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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 12, 2023 • 12:09:43am

Your state on fascism.

MARION — In an unprecedented raid Friday, local law enforcement seized computers, cellphones and reporting materials from the Marion County Record office, the newspaper’s reporters, and the publisher’s home.

Eric Meyer, owner and publisher of the newspaper, said police were motivated by a confidential source who leaked sensitive documents to the newspaper, and the message was clear: “Mind your own business or we’re going to step on you.”

The city’s entire five-officer police force and two sheriff’s deputies took “everything we have,” Meyer said, and it wasn’t clear how the newspaper staff would take the weekly publication to press Tuesday night.

(more)

Police stage ‘chilling’ raid on Marion County newspaper, seizing computers, records and cellphones (Kansas Reflector, August 11, 2023)

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 12, 2023 • 12:21:40am

Ukrainian Scouts Are Inside Robotyne, The First Russian Strongpoint On The Road To Melitopol (Forbes, August 11, 2023)

Liberating the city of Melitopol from its Russian occupiers is one of the top objectives of Ukraine’s long-anticipated southern counteroffensive.

But the Russian garrison in Tokmak stands between the Ukrainian counteroffensive corps and Melitopol. And the garrison in Robotyne stands between the Ukrainians and Tokmak.

A trio of Ukrainian army brigades has been on Robotyne’s proverbial doorstep for weeks now, probing and eroding Russian defenses at high cost to themselves. And on or just before Friday, elements of a reconnaissance battalion working alongside the combat brigades marched a couple of hundred yards down the T0408, the main road running north to south along the west side of Robotyne.

A trooper from the 100-person Skala Battalion snapped a selfie next to a Robotyne city sign just southwest of the cemetery on the municipality’s northern edge. Significantly, the sign lies south of the first major trenchline anchoring Russian positions in Robotyne.

(more)

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 12, 2023 • 12:28:43am

A rural Kansas bank fell for an unspecified scam, resulting in FDIC closing the institution for insolvency.

Heartland Tri-State Bank, Elkhart, KS (FDIC)

Regulator: Failed Kansas bank ‘victim of a scam’ (American Banker, August 4, 2023)

The failure of Heartland Tri-State Bank in Elkhart, Kansas, was hastened by fraud, according to a state official.

“The bank fell victim to a scam,” Kansas Banking Commissioner David Herndon told American Banker Friday.

Herndon said that he was not privy to details such as who perpetrated the scam, but it was his understanding that a federal investigation was ongoing. He said Heartland self-reported the incident.

Kansas regulators seized Heartland last Friday and appointed the Federal Deposit Insurance Corp. as receiver. It marked the fourth failure of 2023. The FDIC entered into a purchase and assumption agreement with Dream First Bank of Syracuse, Kansas, to assume all of the deposits and many of the assets of Heartland.

(more)

The bank has $139,000,000 in assets. Kansas regulators say this failure is unrelated to the failure of Silicon Valley Bank in California.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Aug 12, 2023 • 12:49:20am

re: #112 Belafon

Besides the overall student enrollement decline (which is itself a story that informs us of the state of the State of West Virginia), there’s this:

The news release sent out by WVU explained the decision to eliminate the Department of World Languages, Literatures and Linguistics and its seven programs. The university said the review showed student interest in the programs is very low and declining. It cited a number of other universities have eliminated foreign language requirements in connection with its majors. WVU is reviewing similar plans. It also said it could partner with a fellow Big 12 university and offer foreign languages online to WVU students.

This is a long-term trend.

The learning of a foreign language is hard for most of us (and I do mean me.)

It’s something that cannot be bluffed through in college. It’s actually hard unless you are one of those people for whom learning languages as an adult (even as a young adult) is straight forward.

When I went to college I did not have a foreign language requirement, because I was in majors where that had already been the case for many years. Foreign language requirements for a B.S. didn’t exist, while at my university some B.A. programs did require such.

Engineering majors also typically did not have a foreign language requirement.

The deeper problem going forward, though, is that English will not always be the dominant language for science and engineering.

It is now, of course.

But a hundred years from now that could change.

Latin was the language of academia for centuries… until it wasn’t.

The darker side of all of this: Americans feel they don’t have to be interested in other cultures. I bet most young people in WV have never been outside the of the US. I bet most people in WV never deal with people from other parts of the world.

It’s an oddly self-destructive thing: sitting back in provincialism while one’s life is ever more dependent upon world events and global commerce.

But it’s where we’re at today.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Aug 12, 2023 • 12:55:40am

re: #125 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Since I was looking at the WV news site, it offered up the following story from yesterday:

Man jumps to death after exiting ambulance in Charleston

A man jumped out of an ambulance in Charleston Friday afternoon and then jumped over the side of an interstate bridge. He was pronounced dead at the scene.

Authorities said it happened at about 12:30 p.m. on Interstate 77 not far from the Leon Sullivan Way exit.

The ambulance had slowed in traffic and the patient was able to get out of the vehicle.

[…]

The rest of the story doesn’t give any more relevant details.

I don’t know about you, but the few times I have been in an ambulance (on the way to the hospital) I was in no shape to go jumping out of the ambulance.

And how does one actually do that? Even if the vehicle is moving slowly, is not the patient laying down on a gurney?

Were there not attendants in back?

Or is this one of those cases that seem to be found only in fictional TV crime shows?

Is this an X-File?

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ericblair  Aug 12, 2023 • 1:35:27am

Looks like Dr Feelgood was having a bit of a bad trip. LOCK HIM UP

Just think about how much of an asshole he must have been for a cop to lock up a gooper congresscritter in Texas.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 12, 2023 • 1:52:31am

re: #165 EPR-radar

Don’t these GOP pigfuckers ever get tired of lying all the time?

As long as the lie is in service to acquiring more power, no.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Aug 12, 2023 • 1:52:37am

Watching some automobile reviews on Youtube - I am not in the market (and may never be again) but I thought it interesting to see where the automobile market in the US is today.

As expected, many Youtube commenters love to hate on the makers, the government, etc., mostly about EVs and so forth.

What I gather is that there is a tension, a strong tension, between what people say they want (in an automobile) and what they will ever get.

This goes beyond the typical envy-induced frustration.

Physics is forcing automobile design and electric vehicles, with the limitations of batteries, show this very strongly.

Americans still want huge vehicles that gobble up gasoline. At least in large enough numbers that makers present monsters as their latest and greatest.

And because all-electric vehicles are expensive to stand up as an industry, the vehicles are quite a bit more expensive than their ICE counterparts.

What these whiners may not realize is that there is simply no future for big ICE vehicles.

The ones currently for sale in the US are part of a genus that is going extinct.

One can make all-electric plug-in vehicles with decent range. But the vehicles are small-ish.

Chinese companies are really embracing this change. But their vehicles are not on offer here.

And I am not surprised that the Koreans (Hyundai/Kia) are leading the way with more-affordable (but still expensive) electric vehicles in the US.

Cultural changes unfolding, driven by resource limitations, are going to continue to make American politics quite volatile.

The big car is a sign of American virility. Changing that is still apparently many years off.

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ericblair  Aug 12, 2023 • 2:12:42am

re: #129 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Americans still want huge vehicles that gobble up gasoline. At least in large enough numbers that makers present monsters as their latest and greatest.

That’s the problem: there is a subset of Americans who will pay a ridiculous premium for huge pickemup trucks and SUVs, and manufacturers are therefore going where the profit is because duh. I’m a big fan of the F150 Lightning even though I’d never buy one, since it would be replacing a huge gas-guzzler with a huge non-gas-guzzler at least.

I think someone here posted the graphic showing that some of the popular trucks and SUVs had worse front sightlines than an M1 Abrams main battle tank. Unreal.

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Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus  Aug 12, 2023 • 2:19:12am

re: #130 ericblair

I think someone here posted the graphic showing that some of the popular trucks and SUVs had worse front sightlines than an M1 Abrams main battle tank. Unreal.

Watched a recent review of an electric vehicle, and one of its nifty gimmicks was that there were lights intense enough on the front that it will project warnings on the road ahead of you, to get your attention if you’re about to hit something, etc.

Well, ok, that’s neat. But maybe if the vehicle was designed so the driver was not insulated so much from the environment the said driver might be more aware of what is going on.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅  Aug 12, 2023 • 2:24:17am

re: #67 teleskiguy

I think this is the coolest thing ever shared by a Lizard *at this moment.*

And it also demonstrates watercolor paintings have solid strokes and brilliance.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅  Aug 12, 2023 • 2:25:59am

re: #69 teleskiguy

No one wants a Bluesky invite? I got one.

I’m logging out at 9:30 pm MDT, which is in, like, 50 minutes. Then I’ll go elsewhere to hand out this stupid shit.

I’ll take it if you haven’t given it away.

ETA - yup, gone. So slow

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Aug 12, 2023 • 2:26:45am

re: #129 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

I always liked the hybrid like a Prius. Electric but has gasoline as a backup. I’m not sold on 100% battery driven cars.

My bigger thing is that I drive once a week now (if that) and my car isn’t too happy about that. I’m not sure how an electric car would fare sitting idle for so long and batteries in electric cars are ungodly expensive to replace.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅  Aug 12, 2023 • 2:28:39am

re: #87 darthstar

The three potatoes are pre-vodka, right? So it was only vodka…

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Aug 12, 2023 • 2:33:23am

re: #134 Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅

I’ll take it if you haven’t given it away.

I’ll hit you next time I have one if you haven’t gotten one first.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Aug 12, 2023 • 2:38:35am

Grrrrrrrrrrrrrr! Freaking Wordle. 5/6

RHNSeXJjTEFMY0h4eXNnSDB4ZkRicVJJY1A0aHVvUnVGQ1RlOXdXcjlNbDAxS0NBV2c1MHZYRmdRTkN1cm1BRGRMejlhanBVc0srNEFTZXVJT0psL2Q3RnVrVEJ3UU9BVHV5OFcvTjRMamxWU2o4dnRzYVR4MFZEUFJyQklWZE4zYTFqeE10Sm9vaEh1Y1J1VE1QZjBicXBqT3d6bVQ4OWlScEU0c2phVDlNSnJsRlpWWHJ2ZDRHUEFUTExFcnpSOjpYbOm8Dny7926GHHVTdFBt

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austin_blue  Aug 12, 2023 • 2:39:52am

4:37 CDT here in South Austin and the Australia/France game has ended 120 minutes of scoreless play and are going to Penalty Kicks to decide who goes to the Semifinals.

I hate PKs, as I have long stated. Horrible way to decide a game.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 12, 2023 • 2:43:18am

(10:58)
According to a New York Times analysis of federal records, Trump is spending more than he’s taking in, and more than 30% of all campaign funds are being spent on his legal fees.

‘Try to keep Donald Trump out of jail’: Trump’s legal firestorm strains campaign cash flow

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Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅  Aug 12, 2023 • 2:48:58am

re: #137 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

I’ll hit you next time I have one if you haven’t gotten one first.

Thanky

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 12, 2023 • 2:51:34am

re: #140 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

(10:58)
According to a New York Times analysis of federal records, Trump is spending more than he’s taking in, and more than 30% of all campaign funds are being spent on his legal fees.

If indeed that Georgia indictment comes down this next week, as many anticipate, that 30% is gonna jump quite significantly.

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Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅  Aug 12, 2023 • 2:51:35am

re: #140 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Good - let him bleed cash. Problem is, rubes and Russian / dumb banks keep giving him money

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 12, 2023 • 3:02:06am

Take a trip on the Sunflower Murasaki, the newest ferry of the Sunflower Line, from Beppu to Osaka:

Brand New Sunflower Ferry in Japan | Trying the Semi Private Capsule

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austin_blue  Aug 12, 2023 • 3:03:50am

Nine rounds of PKs. France missed 4, Australia missed 3, and are through.

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William Lewis  Aug 12, 2023 • 3:13:29am

re: #145 austin_blue

Nine rounds of PKs. France missed 4, Australia missed 3, and are through.

Next up, Columbia vs England. That could be interesting.

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Targetpractice  Aug 12, 2023 • 3:13:37am

re: #121 Captain Ron

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Personally, I don’t think it’s a matter of what info the prosecutor has so much as how he got it. There’s really not a single part of this whole shitshow that doesn’t have Trump’s bloated orange ass hovering over it. Even the IRS investigation that seemed to be on the up-and-up now looks questionable in light of the obvious bias of the GQP’s “whistleblowers” admitting under oath that they were champing at the bit to bring practically any charges they felt they could justify on the flimsiest of evidence and felt the DOJ was holding them back.

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austin_blue  Aug 12, 2023 • 3:14:05am

Oops—-TEN rounds of PKs. The most in World Cup history, men or women. Still a shitty way to end a match.

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Barefoot Grin  Aug 12, 2023 • 3:18:56am

re: #125 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Besides the overall student enrollement decline (which is itself a story that informs us of the state of the State of West Virginia), there’s this:

This is a long-term trend.

The learning of a foreign language is hard for most of us (and I do mean me.)

It’s something that cannot be bluffed through in college. It’s actually hard unless you are one of those people for whom learning languages as an adult (even as a young adult) is straight forward.

When I went to college I did not have a foreign language requirement, because I was in majors where that had already been the case for many years. Foreign language requirements for a B.S. didn’t exist, while at my university some B.A. programs did require such.

Engineering majors also typically did not have a foreign language requirement.

The deeper problem going forward, though, is that English will not always be the dominant language for science and engineering.

It is now, of course.

But a hundred years from now that could change.

Latin was the language of academia for centuries… until it wasn’t.

The darker side of all of this: Americans feel they don’t have to be interested in other cultures. I bet most young people in WV have never been outside the of the US. I bet most people in WV never deal with people from other parts of the world.

It’s an oddly self-destructive thing: sitting back in provincialism while one’s life is ever more dependent upon world events and global commerce.

But it’s where we’re at today.

Americans not learning foreign languages is an embarrassment. Areas in particular that need more humanities and foreign language training are engineering and tech. There is no field that expects complete competence by graduation. For that reason I think of it as either a gateway to proficiency or as a kind of anthropology course (if taught well). That’s just my opinion (signed, someone who has taught a foreign language at high school and college level in the past with pride). But the part about “and no administrative jobs were lost” hurts because that bloating has been happening for over 20 years and in most colleges and universities you could hire 1.5 or 2 faculty for each administrator.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 12, 2023 • 3:21:57am

(6:28) Sean Hannity of FOX News Channel seems to think the GOP went too far on abortion, and now they’re paying the price.

See Fox’s Hannity surrender as Dobbs decision destroys GOP

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William Lewis  Aug 12, 2023 • 3:22:45am

re: #150 Barefoot Grin

Americans not learning foreign languages is an embarrassment. Areas in particular that need more humanities and foreign language training are engineering and tech. There is no field that expects complete competence by graduation. For that reason I think of it as either a gateway to proficiency or as a kind of anthropology course (if taught well). That’s just my opinion (signed, someone who has taught a foreign language at high school and college level in the past with pride). But the part about “and no administrative jobs were lost” hurts because that bloating has been happening for over 20 years and in most colleges and universities you could hire 1.5 or 2 faculty for each administrator.

I’m reminded of the old saw about what do you call someone who speaks three languages? Trilingual. Two Languages? Bilingual. One Language? American.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 12, 2023 • 3:23:12am

re: #143 Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅

Good - let him bleed cash. Problem is, rubes and Russian / dumb banks keep giving him money

If they’re giving him money, they’re not giving other Republican candidates money. His endless criming isn’t only hurting him, it’s hurting the whole party.

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Barefoot Grin  Aug 12, 2023 • 3:28:35am

re: #152 William Lewis

I’m reminded of the old saw about what do you call someone who speaks three languages? Trilingual. Two Languages? Bilingual. One Language? American.

I’m in Okinawa now helping with an English language program for kids run by a guy who is passionate about giving Okinawan kids a chance to experience the world outside. He saw me and said, “you look like a marine grunt, but since you speak Japanese everyone will be extra nice to you.”

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 12, 2023 • 3:31:02am

We’re planning on going to see “Oppenheimer” at the Midwest Theatre in Scottsbluff this evening. They do not sell tickets on-line (too many people have no Internet service), so you must line up outside the theatre to buy tickets.

My wife injured her knee badly yesterday taking a bad step. Although it’s improving, she’s still using two canes to walk. She’s not sure if she’s going to be able to stand in a line to buy tickets.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 12, 2023 • 3:34:04am

Other paper authors are weighing in on this as well.

Via BlueSky:

David Shiffman, Ph.D.* 22h
When you see a peer-reviewed scientific journal article, it often says “pay $35 to read this.”

Did you know that $0 of that goes to the authors of the article?

Just email us and we’ll be happy to send you a copy for free. We’re usually thrilled that anyone cares. 🧪🦑🦈

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Nojay UK  Aug 12, 2023 • 3:34:38am

re: #149 austin_blue

Oops—-TEN rounds of PKs. The most in World Cup history, men or women. Still a shitty way to end a match.

Top football teams win by not letting the other side score. Teams these days are mostly defensive players with maybe one star striker in the roster who gets the glory and the goals. It’s rare for an international game to result in a lot of goals because both sides normally have very good defensive players and maybe two or three good strikers between them.

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William Lewis  Aug 12, 2023 • 3:44:36am

re: #156 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Other paper authors are weighing in on this as well.

Via BlueSky:

When I could still read enough on twitter to stay on top of a couple of scientific accounts, I had several of them providing me with free pdfs of papers I’d not be able to afford access to otherwise. Most were simply thrilled that an old school amateur in the field was interested in reading their work.

Now though, it’s impossible to keep up with them without being logged in and I refuse to give that to Elmo the Boi Nazi.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 12, 2023 • 3:49:10am

re: #158 William Lewis

When I could still read enough on twitter to stay on top of a couple of scientific accounts, I had several of them providing me with free pdfs of papers I’d not be able to afford access to otherwise. Most were simply thrilled that an old school amateur in the field was interested in reading their work.

Now though, it’s impossible to keep up with them without being logged in and I refuse to give that to Elmo the Boi Nazi.

When my wife was helping me research my Dupuytren’s contracture issues, she obtained several studies from different countries on the effects of Phenobarbital of exacerbating the problem. The authors were all thrilled she wrote them to ask about their research into such an esoteric topic of medicine.

At the time I was trying to figure out why the disorder started when I was in my forties. My own poking around public Websites like WebMD didn’t give me any answers.

My wife was able to find a number of researchers who actually studied the problem, then directly wrote them for summaries of their papers. They all responded back with their full papers.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 12, 2023 • 3:53:50am
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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Aug 12, 2023 • 3:57:57am

re: #143 Colère Tueur de Lapin ✅

Good - let him bleed cash. Problem is, rubes and Russian / dumb banks keep giving him money

And let the rubes keep sending him money. It’s less money going to other republicans. Bankrupt the whole lot of them.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 12, 2023 • 4:02:53am

I have no BlueSky invitation codes available. I am not worthy to distribute them.

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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  Aug 12, 2023 • 4:05:11am

re: #132 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Watched a recent review of an electric vehicle, and one of its nifty gimmicks was that there were lights intense enough on the front that it will project warnings on the road ahead of you, to get your attention if you’re about to hit something, etc.

Well, ok, that’s neat. But maybe if the vehicle was designed so the driver was not insulated so much from the environment the said driver might be more aware of what is going on.

Designed in compensating because people suck at driving

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Aug 12, 2023 • 4:08:25am

re: #153 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

If they’re giving him money, they’re not giving other Republican candidates money. His endless criming isn’t only hurting him, it’s hurting the whole party.

And I’m 100% on board with that.

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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  Aug 12, 2023 • 4:11:38am

re: #162 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

I have no BlueSky invitation codes available. I am not worthy to distribute them.

Maybe they don’t make it all the way to nebraska

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Nerdy Fish  Aug 12, 2023 • 4:25:46am

There’s a rare moment.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 12, 2023 • 4:37:48am

re: #30 DodgerFan1988

The Florida GOP statesman’s dinner attendees will be all men because Ben Shapiro can’t get women to come.

Women are supposed to be home raising children, tending to the household and taking care of their figure so their men don’t feel compelled to cheat on them.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 12, 2023 • 4:38:50am

re: #32 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie

Losing Illinois gubernatorial candidate Darren Bailey (R) speaks out against the Illinois Supreme Court’s decision upholding an assault rifle ban: “I will die on this front porch before I give up any of my Second Amendment freedoms.”

Assault rifles were certainly part of the Original Intent of the 2A.

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austin_blue  Aug 12, 2023 • 4:38:55am

re: #157 Nojay UK

Top football teams win by not letting the other side score. Teams these days are mostly defensive players with maybe one star striker in the roster who gets the glory and the goals. It’s rare for an international game to result in a lot of goals because both sides normally have very good defensive players and maybe two or three good strikers between them.

But games are won or lost by controlling the mid-field play, and Wiegman is a master at putting together a game plan. She shifted the Team to a 3-2-3-2 formation and they went from no offense to a 6-goal win in the second game of Group Stage.

But Columbia scored the first goal tonight and England capitalized on a defensive error to tie at the death of the 1st half.

Colombia likes chaos football and have tremendous speed. They are better on the break and should have the lead at the half. But England have a better bench. It should be a cracking second half!

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 12, 2023 • 4:41:47am

re: #29 wrenchwench

We were not prepared for the post-Obama backlash.

They just could not force themselves to admit that if you work hard and apply yourself, you can achieve the highest public office in the land regardless of your race, religion or social standing.

Having a black man do that was too much American Dream for them.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 12, 2023 • 4:45:26am

re: #55 Captain Ron

I know more people who have had covid this month than the last 3 years combined.

They all believed the lies that covid was over, and they all took masks off and went “back to normal”.

I had to take one last week as my elderly next-door neighbor was hospitalized with it and I had recently taken him grocery shopping.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 12, 2023 • 4:46:52am

Remember to ignore every person who tells you the pandemic is over and you don’t need to wear a mask or keep your distance. They do not have your health interests at heart.

WHO declares ‘Eris’ Covid strain a variant of interest as cases rise globally (The Guardian, August 9, 2023)

You have to read in between the lines here. The idea that this variant doesn’t seem to create more severe disease papers over the fact there are more than two states to this disease (recovery and death).

A new strain of Covid-19 has been designated as a variant of interest by the World Health Organization, although the public health risk has been judged as low.

The variant, known as EG.5 or “Eris”, is related to an Omicron subvariant called XBB.1.9.2, and is growing in prevalence globally, with countries including the UK, China and US among those affected.

However, the WHO suggested the variant does not pose a particular threat. “Based on the available evidence, the public health risk posed by EG.5 is evaluated as low at the global level,” the agency said, adding that the risk appeared to be on a par with other circulating variants of interest.

“While EG.5 has shown increased prevalence, growth advantage, and immune escape properties, there have been no reported changes in disease severity to date,” the WHO added.

Christina Pagel, professor of operational research at University College London, said that while the variant was growing in prevalence and appeared to be better at evading the immune system, allowing it to outcompete other variants, there was no evidence that it caused more severe disease.

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Scientists and researchers are usually cautious about what they write or say. That makes prognostications about disease virulence subject to hijacking and lying about severity by economists (who don’t care about how many people die as long as quarterly profit margins are met) and conservatives (who lie for fun and practice).

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 12, 2023 • 4:48:12am

re: #59 Dave In Austin

He is not afraid to take these people on and tell them when they are full of shit and not let them spread their “viral video” narratives.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 12, 2023 • 4:48:47am

re: #168 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Assault rifles were certainly part of the Original Intent of the 2A.

I’m not a fan of that particular argument (the framers didn’t envision AR-15s) because you can apply that to other rights (the framers didn’t envision the Internet).

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Targetpractice  Aug 12, 2023 • 4:50:54am

re: #168 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Assault rifles were certainly part of the Original Intent of the 2A.

Own a musket for home defense, since that’s what the founding fathers intended.

Four ruffians break into my house. “What the devil?” As I grab my powdered wig and Kentucky rifle.

Blow a golf ball sized hole through the first man, he’s dead on the spot.

Draw my pistol on the second man, miss him entirely because it’s smoothbore and nails the neighbors dog.

I have to resort to the cannon mounted at the top of the stairs loaded with grape shot, “Tally ho lads” the grape shot shreds two men in the blast, the sound and extra shrapnel set off car alarms.

Fix bayonet and charge the last terrified rapscallion. He Bleeds out waiting on the police to arrive since triangular bayonet wounds are impossible to stitch up.

Just as the founding fathers intended.

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Nerdy Fish  Aug 12, 2023 • 4:54:49am

re: #175 Targetpractice

“An Englishman’s home is his castle,” complete with the 12-lb smoothbore field gun mounted on the roof to repel roaming packs of feral cavalry.

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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  Aug 12, 2023 • 4:57:10am

re: #174 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

I’m not a fan of that particular argument (the framers didn’t envision AR-15s) because you can apply that to other rights (the framers didn’t envision the Internet).

1. Control your weapon at all times
2. Rights AND responsibilities

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Nerdy Fish  Aug 12, 2023 • 4:58:24am

re: #177 Dangerman (sigh…only in America)

1. Control your weapon at all times
2. Rights AND responsibilities

Butbutbut unique among all the amendments in the Constitution, the Second Amendment says SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED!!! That means you can’t take it away!!!///

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austin_blue  Aug 12, 2023 • 4:58:28am

Russo scores a lovely goal for the Lionesses. 2-1 England.

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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  Aug 12, 2023 • 4:59:01am

re: #175 Targetpractice

Own a musket for home defense, since that’s what the founding fathers intended.

Four ruffians break into my house. “What the devil?” As I grab my powdered wig and Kentucky rifle.

Blow a golf ball sized hole through the first man, he’s dead on the spot.

Draw my pistol on the second man, miss him entirely because it’s smoothbore and nails the neighbors dog.

I have to resort to the cannon mounted at the top of the stairs loaded with grape shot, “Tally ho lads” the grape shot shreds two men in the blast, the sound and extra shrapnel set off car alarms.

Fix bayonet and charge the last terrified rapscallion. He Bleeds out waiting on the police to arrive since triangular bayonet wounds are impossible to stitch up.

Just as the founding fathers intended.

+1

(we had rapscallions with dinner last night)

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 12, 2023 • 4:59:46am

re: #155 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

We’re planning on going to see “Oppenheimer” at the Midwest Theatre in Scottsbluff this evening. They do not sell tickets on-line (too many people have no Internet service), so you must line up outside the theatre to buy tickets.

That concept blows my mind. America is supposed to be a first-world country.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 12, 2023 • 5:00:53am

re: #157 Nojay UK

Top football teams win by not letting the other side score. Teams these days are mostly defensive players with maybe one star striker in the roster who gets the glory and the goals. It’s rare for an international game to result in a lot of goals because both sides normally have very good defensive players and maybe two or three good strikers between them.

You just summed up why I find soccer so boring.

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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  Aug 12, 2023 • 5:01:17am

re: #178 Nerdy Fish

Butbutbut unique among all the amendments in the Constitution, the Second Amendment says SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED!!! That means you can’t take it away!!!///

So people in jail should be allowed to have guns?

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austin_blue  Aug 12, 2023 • 5:03:46am

re: #183 Dangerman (sigh…only in America)

So people in jail should be allowed to have guns?

Scofflaws, yes. Felons, no.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 12, 2023 • 5:03:58am

re: #181 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

That concept blows my mind. America is supposed to be a first-world country.

I find it interesting how the terms “First World, Second World, Third World” have morphed in definition over my life.

“First World” meant those nations aligned with the USA and its allies, “Second World” meant those aligned with the USSR, and “Third World” meant those nations not aligned with either.

Since the collapse of most communist governments, “Second World” has fallen out of usage, while “First World” morphed into “developed and rich” while “Third World” morphed into “underdeveloped and poor.”

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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  Aug 12, 2023 • 5:06:24am

re: #184 austin_blue

Scofflaws, yes. Felons, no.

But SHALL NOT BE INFRINGED!!!

The felons will say they’re being fringed

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 12, 2023 • 5:07:14am

re: #185 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

The nomenclature I always hear is “developed world”, “developing world” and “underdeveloped world”.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 12, 2023 • 5:08:14am

re: #183 Dangerman (sigh…only in America)

So people in jail should be allowed to have guns?

That has been argued before.

Felony convictions are apparently not a bar any more as well.

Man Convicted of Nonviolent Crime Can Own Gun, U.S. Court Rules (New York Times, June 6, 2023)

A federal appeals court ruled on Tuesday that a man who committed a nonviolent crime cannot be legally prevented from owning a firearm — a potential setback to gun regulations spurred by a Supreme Court ruling last year that vastly expanded the right to bear arms.

In an 11-to-4 ruling, the U.S. Court of Appeals for the Third Circuit in Philadelphia overturned court decisions against Bryan Range, a Pennsylvania resident who had sued the state after being blocked from buying a shotgun over a conviction for lying on a benefits application in the 1990s.

In a majority opinion, Judge Thomas M. Hardiman repeatedly cited the Supreme Court ruling last June, written by Justice Clarence Thomas, in which the majority established a new standard that dictated that gun laws conform to “historical tradition” dating to the 18th and 19th centuries.

“In sum, we reject the government’s contention that only ‘law-abiding, responsible citizens’ are counted among ‘the people’ protected by the Second Amendment,” wrote Judge Hardiman, a George W. Bush appointee who was on President Donald J. Trump’s short list to serve on the Supreme Court after the death of Justice Antonin Scalia in 2016.

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Florida Panhandler  Aug 12, 2023 • 5:08:58am

re: #111 mmmirele

Ammo[n] Bundy has been fucking around, and he’s now found out. I cannot find an article that details what this is about…yet, but it appears to be related to his shenanigans protesting St. Luke’s hospital.

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However, the St. Luke’s hospital system took Ammo to court today to stop any sham transfers of property so they can collect their $52.5 million judgment. St. Luke’s sued for defamation and won a default judgment because Ammo decided he didn’t want to fight the suit.

Ammo says he has no plans to turn over anything to pay the lawsuit.

idahostatesman.com

ETA: This contempt of court charge has to do with his refusal to show up for the defamation case St. Luke’s filed against him.

boisestatepublicradio.org

I’d remind everyone that the sheriff of Gem County didn’t want to serve papers to Ammo because he was afraid for his people from the *cough* law-abiding *cough* Bundy.

Ammo has to either pay $10K tonight to get out, or he’ll be in jail until Monday, when he’ll have to go before a judge. I suspect he’s in for the weekend.

This Bundy clown probably fever dreams of Seal Team types coming to bust him out of any prison and then taking over the state government. Instead what is much more likely is that once it is known that after Fucking Around, you Find Out his support system quickly dispersed and melts away leaving him alone with craptacular life results.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 12, 2023 • 5:09:26am

The sun is up, so I’m going to lie down. Catch y’all later.

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 12, 2023 • 5:17:37am

In the Oppression Olympics, a Massachusetts Catholic couple is objecting that the state doesn’t allow them to oppress LGBT+ foster children in the name of Christianity.

Anti-LGBTQ+ couple cries religious discrimination after their foster parent application was denied (LGBTQ Nation, August 10, 2023)

A Catholic couple is suing after their foster parent application was denied due to their anti-LGBTQ+ beliefs.

The lawsuit (thirty-seven page filing, PDF) was filed by Michael and Catherine Burke against the Massachusetts Department of Children and Families (DCF). It states that DCF wrote that the couple was denied because they “would not be affirming to a child who identified as LGBTQIA.”

The state’s Foster Child Bill of Rights declares that all foster children “shall be treated with respect by DCF staff, foster parents and providers without regard to race, ethnicity, sexual orientation, gender identity, religion, and/or disability.”

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TarHellion  Aug 12, 2023 • 5:21:04am

re: #166 Nerdy Fish

Had a stare at it for a bit - then made the right guess for the birbie

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Anymouse 🌹🏡😷  Aug 12, 2023 • 5:21:06am

re: #191 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

A similar case is being heard now from a Protestant family in Oregon.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 12, 2023 • 5:33:06am

re: #193 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

A similar case is being heard now from a Protestant family in Oregon.

If you choose to publicly exercise your right to be a bigot you cannot not expect other priveleges (adoption is not a right) to remaion uninfringed.

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darthstar  Aug 12, 2023 • 5:41:14am

c.im

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darthstar  Aug 12, 2023 • 5:41:55am

re: #195 darthstar

c.im

Gah….

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HRH Stanley Sea  Aug 12, 2023 • 5:48:40am

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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  Aug 12, 2023 • 5:50:20am

re: #188 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

That has been argued before.

Felony convictions are apparently not a bar any more as well.

Man Convicted of Nonviolent Crime Can Own Gun, U.S. Court Rules (New York Times, June 6, 2023)

(more)

I get where you’re going
I said in jail.
After all, if “shall not be infringed” is in fact absolute like they say

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 12, 2023 • 5:51:46am

re: #198 Dangerman (sigh…only in America)

I get where you’re going
I said in jail.
After all, if “shall not be infringed” is in fact absolute like they say

Felons have been denied their rights, How can they expect to win them back without weapons?

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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  Aug 12, 2023 • 5:55:22am

re: #199 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Felons have been denied their rights, How can they expect to win them back without weapons?

What sense does it make that only the guards have guns?
How do inmates protect themselves?
From each other. And from the guards with the guns.

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Dangerman (sigh...only in America)  Aug 12, 2023 • 6:05:12am
Michigan Republican state Rep. Matt Maddock hosted a pool party fundraiser in August for the 16 fake electors…

Maddock warned the crowd that “If the government continues to weaponize these departments against conservatives and the citizens that are then the taxpayers … Someone’s going to get so pissed

Someone but not one of them. Cowards

Against conservatives. Note what’s missing: who committed crimes

There gonna ” impeach” everyone because it’s their only weapon left. Screw the will of the voters

Link

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darthstar  Aug 12, 2023 • 6:05:21am

Mastodon

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darthstar  Aug 12, 2023 • 6:08:19am

Sasha, better call the office and let them know you won’t be able to get home before Monday…

Mastodon

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Teukka  Aug 12, 2023 • 6:09:22am

My surprised face, etc. etc. etc.

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jeffreyw  Aug 12, 2023 • 6:10:46am

It’s Caturday!

Good morning!

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Nerdy Fish  Aug 12, 2023 • 6:13:05am

re: #202 darthstar

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You are having a bad problem and you will not go to Crimea today. Or possibly ever.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 12, 2023 • 6:16:22am

re: #202 darthstar

Yandex is showing the bridge as closed.

That’s from about a minute or so ago (15:16 Central European Time).

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darthstar  Aug 12, 2023 • 6:23:32am

re: #207 Dr Lizardo

Yandex is showing the bridge as closed.

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That’s from about a minute or so ago (15:16 Central European Time).

And to think all those beach goers just checked out of their AirBnBs…

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Joe Bacon ✅  Aug 12, 2023 • 6:25:02am

During an appearance on MSNBC’s “The Katie Phang Show” on Saturday morning, Hugo Lowell of the Guardian claimed lawyers for Donald Trump got off to a rough start with Judge Tanya Chutkan during a hearing Friday afternoon.

According to the reporter who was in Chutkan’s courtroom on Friday for the start of a trial where the judge laid down the law about how she will conduct his trial on charges related to his attempts to subvert the 2020 election, the judge at one point put her face in her hands as accusations were made against the Joe Biden administration for “coming after” the ex-president.

Asked by host Phang about the “body language” of Trump and the judge during the proceedings, Lowell stated Chutkan was clearly unhappy with the former president’s lawyers harping on the fact that the trial would impact their client’s third presidential campaign.

“The judge was sympathetic to some of the Trump lawyers’ arguments, they were making the case that you know, being a defense lawyer is difficult, especially with a client like Trump and I think she kind of accepted that, she has a defense background herself,” he explained.

“But at other times I think she kind of grew exasperated by all the discussions about politics, at one point she had her face in her hands and rolled her eyes when there was another discussion about the Biden Administration coming after Trump,” he continued. “So I think Trump’s lawyer John Lauro picked up on that a little bit, and shifted course at the hearing.”

“So clearly that was something he thought was gonna be a loser and changed tack,” he added.

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Dr Lizardo  Aug 12, 2023 • 6:25:37am

re: #208 darthstar

And now, Russia is “vowing retaliation” for what describes as a “terrorist attack”, yet they also say nothing happened… 🤡

Russia’s Foreign Ministry condemned on Saturday what it called Ukraine’s “terrorist attack” on the Crimean Bridge, saying it put innocent civilians’ lives at risk, and vowed retaliation.

“There can be no justification for such barbaric actions and they will not go unanswered,” ministry spokeswoman Maria Zakharova said in a statement on the Telegram messaging app.

Earlier, Russia’s Defence Ministry said its forces had thwarted a Ukrainian rocket attack on the 12-mile (19 km) bridge, which links Russian-annexed Crimea to Russia across the Kerch Strait.

The ministry said Russian forces had also shot down a number of Ukrainian drones targeting the peninsula.

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Teukka  Aug 12, 2023 • 6:27:12am

(If there’s an embed fail:
Christianity Today Editor: Evangelicals Call Jesus “Liberal” and “Weak”
A former evangelical leader is sounding the alarm about the direction his religion is headed in. )

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Joe Bacon ✅  Aug 12, 2023 • 6:27:57am

Another great appointment made by il Duce!

DeSantis-appointed lead of Florida’s affordable housing has ‘very surprising’ financial history

And what could that be??????

Spokesperson Katie Betta said in a text message to the news outlet, “Our office was made aware that Mr. DiNapoli was being placed on administrative leave due to some personnel matters.”

Regarding DiNapoli’s personal history, Miami Herald notes:

After decades of working in wealth management in New York City, he lost his job with the financial services firm UBS, where a customer — who said DiNapoli was her brother — accused him of stealing her money and forging her name on a check. Creditors were garnishing DiNapoli’s bank accounts. His nearly 10-acre equestrian estate in Ocala was in foreclosure and his homeowners association was pursuing him for past dues. In 2017, he filed for bankruptcy.

alternet.org

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Teukka  Aug 12, 2023 • 6:39:32am
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A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS  Aug 12, 2023 • 6:47:00am

re: #166 Nerdy Fish

There’s a rare moment.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 12, 2023 • 6:56:28am

re: #211 Teukka

“When we get to the point where the teachings of Jesus himself are seen as subversive to us, then we’re in a crisis.”

Mz Fox News-viewing brother and SiL quit their Episcopalian church for being too “woke”. I guess they had no trouble finding a new church more in line with their sensibilities.

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Belafon  Aug 12, 2023 • 7:05:48am

I thought of a funny shirt to poke at Christians: Real men only have 19 ribs.

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A hollow voice says: Abort SCOTUS  Aug 12, 2023 • 7:07:12am

Agapanthus!

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Belafon  Aug 12, 2023 • 7:07:45am

The incoming freshman class at the University of Oklahoma is 5100 kids. Anyone other than Anymouse live in a town with a smaller population?

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Belafon  Aug 12, 2023 • 7:08:46am

re: #211 Teukka

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(If there’s an embed fail:
Christianity Today Editor: Evangelicals Call Jesus “Liberal” and “Weak”
A former evangelical leader is sounding the alarm about the direction his religion is headed in. )

“So you admit Jesus was a liberal.”

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Nerdy Fish  Aug 12, 2023 • 7:08:49am

re: #218 Belafon

The incoming freshman class at the University of Oklahoma is 5100 kids. Anyone other than Anymouse live in a town with a smaller population?

Yes.

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Belafon  Aug 12, 2023 • 7:12:04am

re: #218 Belafon

That class, if it were a town, would be the 425th largest city in Texas out of 1800.

texas-demographics.com

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Markm1960  Aug 12, 2023 • 7:14:50am

re: #218 Belafon

The incoming freshman class at the University of Oklahoma is 5100 kids. Anyone other than Anymouse live in a town with a smaller population?

Central Illinois town I live in is about 4500, maybe 5000 in the greater metropolitan area. 14000 people and two stop lights in the county. It’s a very trumpy area.

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Belafon  Aug 12, 2023 • 7:16:36am

re: #222 Markm1960

Central Illinois town I live in is about 4500, maybe 5000 in the greater metropolitan area. 14000 people and two stop lights in the county. It’s a very trumpy area.

OU is a rather interesting school in that half the population is from Texas. I’m beginning to think 2/3 of those are from the DFW area.

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nines09  Aug 12, 2023 • 7:19:30am

re: #218 Belafon

Yes. My borough population as of 2021 is 1636. But we live in a cluster of boroughs and townships so the area population is larger.

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darthstar  Aug 12, 2023 • 7:19:42am

re: #209 Joe Bacon ✅

“So clearly that was something he thought was gonna be a loser and changed tack,” he added.

He did change tack…after she repeatedly admonished him verbally and said that this was a criminal trial and only the evidence relative to the criminal charges would be heard.

Coming out of the gate swinging at President Biden was made for TV courtroom drama. This is actually a pretty good argument against televising the trial, though I still think it should be televised.

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darthstar  Aug 12, 2023 • 7:20:46am

Around 6K in El Granada, 13K in Half Moon Bay….but we’re a suburb of San Francisco and the peninsula, so we got a few million people near us.

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darthstar  Aug 12, 2023 • 7:23:12am

This is a nice breakthrough for Ukraine…may it expand along the banks of the Dnipro so they have a safe passage out of Russian artillery range.

Mastodon

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Florida Panhandler  Aug 12, 2023 • 7:24:17am

re: #211 Teukka

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(If there’s an embed fail:
Christianity Today Editor: Evangelicals Call Jesus “Liberal” and “Weak”
A former evangelical leader is sounding the alarm about the direction his religion is headed in. )

Calling Jesus “weak” is literally the mental journey Hitler undertook as a youth when he was raised Catholic but later in life rejected Christianity as “weak” and not fitting into his visions for racial and nationalistic supremacy. This is exactly the mental journey that has been the Conservative American experience for the past 50 years.

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 12, 2023 • 7:32:11am

re: #218 Belafon

The incoming freshman class at the University of Oklahoma is 5100 kids. Anyone other than Anymouse live in a town with a smaller population?

roughly 700

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Teukka  Aug 12, 2023 • 7:34:02am

re: #228 Florida Panhandler

Calling Jesus “weak” is literally the mental journey Hitler undertook as a youth when he was raised Catholic but later in life rejected Christianity as “weak” and not fitting into his visions for racial and nationalistic supremacy. This is exactly the mental journey that has been the Conservative American experience for the past 50 years.

“Tell everyone you’re Satan’s minion without saying you’re Satan’s minion” challenge? 🤔

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Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 12, 2023 • 7:34:42am

re: #228 Florida Panhandler

Calling Jesus “weak” is literally the mental journey Hitler undertook as a youth when he was raised Catholic but later in life rejected Christianity as “weak” and not fitting into his visions for racial and nationalistic supremacy. This is exactly the mental journey that has been the Conservative American experience for the past 50 years.

You highlight a clear link between Fascism and Fundamentalism.

“The poor will be with us always!” is one of their favorite cherries to pick, it highlights the nbotion that helping poor people just takes away their will to be self-sufficient.

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Nerdy Fish  Aug 12, 2023 • 7:35:30am

I guess I should’ve stated, my town at last census is around 2400 people.

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wrenchwench  Aug 12, 2023 • 7:49:06am

Otter attacks three women

[…]
Otter attacks with injuries or fatalities are so rare that biologists have tracked a very specific number: There have only been 59 documented attacks by otters of all species.

Since 1875.

Worldwide.

[…]

Otter behavior expert Heide Island, a professor at Pacific University in Oregon, agreed: While otter attacks are exceedingly uncommon, the aggressive nature of this mad mustelid can be explained.

She told the Daily Montanan that most of the time, wild river otters avoid interaction with humans. But they can become aggressive while defending their territory, their young or food sources. And just from the limited information she’s seen published on the most recent Montana attack, she believes several of the criteria could have been met.

[…]

By strange coincidence, the attack on the Jefferson River isn’t the only otter-related news making headlines.

California authorities are searching for an otter, named “Otter 841,” which has developed a habit of going after surfers near Santa Cruz, prompting U.S. Fish and Wildlife Officials to plea with the curious public not to disturb otters.

[…]

The Orcas have recruited a continental division.

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Yeah Sure WhatEVs  Aug 12, 2023 • 7:51:46am

re: #199 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Felons have been denied their rights, How can they expect to win them back without weapons?

Except the right to vote. Can’t have that.

235
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 12, 2023 • 7:52:30am

re: #234 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Except the right to vote. Can’t have that.

Unless they win it back by force of arms.

236
Nerdy Fish  Aug 12, 2023 • 7:54:29am

re: #235 Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))

Unless they win it back by force of arms.

Which is why the right-wingers claim the Second Amendment is the most important, because without the ability to indiscriminately murder large numbers of people, how could we ever hope to retain our other rights?

237
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 12, 2023 • 7:58:27am

re: #236 Nerdy Fish

Which is why the right-wingers claim the Second Amendment is the most important, because without the ability to indiscriminately murder large numbers of people, how could we ever hope to retain our other rights?

It the only way to keep us safe from the abuses of a tyrannical government.

Which is by definition,” any government you did not vote for, accuse of having stolen an election or otherwise disagree with”.

238
Joe Bacon ✅  Aug 12, 2023 • 8:02:55am

That Tree Of Liberty is sure thirsty for blood…

239
Florida Panhandler  Aug 12, 2023 • 8:08:48am

re: #140 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

(10:58)
According to a New York Times analysis of federal records, Trump is spending more than he’s taking in, and more than 30% of all campaign funds are being spent on his legal fees.

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This report shows the absolute desperation Trump now feels and how serious this whole thing is… he apparently is actually PAYING his lawyers.

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Hecuba's daughter  Aug 12, 2023 • 8:09:53am

re: #138 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Grrrrrrrrrrrrrr! Freaking Wordle. 5/6

[Embedded content]

Par for me

Click to Reveal

Wordle 784 4/6

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⬜🟩🟩🟩⬜
🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩

The group: 4,4,5,5

241
I Would Prefer Not To  Aug 12, 2023 • 8:12:06am

I’m off to AC to play a poker tournament on Sunday. Wish me luck.

blue sky code in private for the first lucky lizard

OVk3Vng1b2wrYURvYlBuODc4N0pwRVByVE1ieXRYTkhFRXR6djJYdXMraz06OmU+mIQJU7bVTvLZQHAuVSk=

242
Eventual Carrion  Aug 12, 2023 • 8:15:23am

re: #79 bratwurst

Thank you! Have been feeling terrible about continuing to use a service that a white supremacist bought to generate revenue for other white supremacists, but not at all sure where to go.

I’d only ever dipped my toe into an alternative before via Post..and that was enough to slow down my interest in other alternatives until things settled a bit.

Followed

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wrenchwench  Aug 12, 2023 • 8:15:46am

re: #240 Hecuba’s daughter

Par for me

[Embedded content]

Four on the floor.

Click to Reveal

Wordle 784 4/6*

⬜⬜🟩⬜⬜
⬜⬜🟩⬜⬜
⬜⬜🟩🟩🟩
🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩

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darthstar  Aug 12, 2023 • 8:25:38am

Mastodon

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Nerdy Fish  Aug 12, 2023 • 8:30:52am

re: #244 darthstar

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Unlike any of those, election interference is a crime, so there’s an argument to be made that being unjustly targeted during a campaign could be illegal. He’s got the burden of proving that he’s being unjustly targeted, by proving his innocence of the charges at issue, which seems… unlikely.

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HRH Stanley Sea  Aug 12, 2023 • 8:31:31am

re: #243 wrenchwench

Four on the floor.

[Embedded content]

Same, all Verde

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247
Joe Bacon ✅  Aug 12, 2023 • 8:45:09am

re: #241 I Would Prefer Not To

I’m off to AC to play a poker tournament on Sunday. Wish me luck.

Good luck!!!!!

Memories of weekend Chess, Bridge and Go tournaments I used to play in.

Now I just play on the internet or spar with computer programs.

248
Eventual Carrion  Aug 12, 2023 • 8:45:24am

re: #138 Yeah Sure WhatEVs

Grrrrrrrrrrrrrr! Freaking Wordle. 5/6

[Embedded content]

Same here

Qjk2cEZXbG1ZWFRDSnpBUlNYdFI4UVl3UnJwblhNR29RRjE5NkVwQkJVOTJuTklGQm9pSFNaYXR1U0VzeXZPRVhUWFhxT1kzeUJnK0kzVHN6V0lvMHpia3R0WFFTMjZvSXVZMS9OUFM0akMxanRrV0hlZHRYS2h6T2dVQkhGWGl6ZHc0TFJQN3FLdnNPREw3a0huMTQ2MTkrcThGR2hmdzBpb2trZStvc0xOODBpMTVrcXorYTZBVzNZOUN2a25XOjqJEzwjVqYRMaoJw9+1nHC4

249
Eclectic Cyborg  Aug 12, 2023 • 8:49:30am

5 club for me too.

Wordle 784 5/6

⬛⬛⬛⬛⬛
⬛🟨⬛🟨⬛
🟨⬛⬛🟨⬛
🟩🟩🟩⬛⬛
🟩🟩🟩🟩🟩

250
Eventual Carrion  Aug 12, 2023 • 8:51:14am

re: #156 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Other paper authors are weighing in on this as well.

Via BlueSky:

I used to be able to get scientific and medical papers for free when I worked at a large hospital system. The hospital system paid a yearly fee for access for doctors, nurses, medical techs and such. Even tho I was in IT I still had access to them. I don’t know what the yearly fee was, but I would bet it was not cheap.

251
Thanos  Aug 12, 2023 • 8:56:12am

Good morning all.

252
Dr. Matt  Aug 12, 2023 • 9:14:18am

This was a tough one.

Connections
Puzzle #62
🟩🟩🟩🟨
🟦🟦🟦🟦
🟨🟨🟨🟨
🟩🟪🟪🟪
🟪🟪🟪🟪
🟩🟩🟩🟩

253
Dr. Matt  Aug 12, 2023 • 9:19:49am

re: #244 darthstar

[Embedded content]

Last year I was pulled over for speeding because I was running late for an appointment. This was APPOINTMENT INTERFERENCE. .

254
darthstar  Aug 12, 2023 • 9:20:39am

Comfy VRBO for a week. View from the hot tub does not suck.

255
darthstar  Aug 12, 2023 • 9:21:54am

re: #252 Dr. Matt

This was a tough one.

Connections
Puzzle #62
🟩🟩🟩🟨
🟦🟦🟦🟦
🟨🟨🟨🟨
🟩🟪🟪🟪
🟪🟪🟪🟪
🟩🟩🟩🟩

I got it in four.
Purple
Blue
Green
Yellow

256
Belafon  Aug 12, 2023 • 9:22:05am

re: #253 Dr. Matt

Last year I was pulled over for speeding because I was running late for an appointment. This was APPOINTMENT INTERFERENCE. .

If you were going to see your doctor, they could be interfering with medical care.

257
Hecuba's daughter  Aug 12, 2023 • 9:30:58am

re: #252 Dr. Matt

This was a tough one.

Connections
Puzzle #62
🟩🟩🟩🟨
🟦🟦🟦🟦
🟨🟨🟨🟨
🟩🟪🟪🟪
🟪🟪🟪🟪
🟩🟩🟩🟩

Solved in 4.

Click to Reveal

Connections
Puzzle #62
🟩🟩🟩🟩
🟨🟨🟨🟨
🟪🟪🟪🟪
🟦🟦🟦🟦

Yesterday was a fail.

258
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 12, 2023 • 9:34:25am

re: #256 Belafon

If you were going to see your doctor, they could be interfering with medical care.

And if you were on your way to overturn an election it would interfering with Patriotic Duties

259
Backwoods Sleuth  Aug 12, 2023 • 9:34:27am

re: #166 Nerdy Fish

mine was a surprise

VmloV2lIMDBJYURFMENQOGU3amlxNzZMQy9obHdUdzBvUXJFV0ZQempZR2hYbVFzM3JvTDFrdnFYcStlaU80cHJ5RmpibUFvcXpiN2FJblZ3T3ZwSEE9PTo63IEgeFbSk4R48x5gNLaSwA==

260
Eventual Carrion  Aug 12, 2023 • 9:34:46am

re: #218 Belafon

The incoming freshman class at the University of Oklahoma is 5100 kids. Anyone other than Anymouse live in a town with a smaller population?

As of the 2020 census my town has a population of 5,541. So just a little more than 5100.

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Dr. Matt  Aug 12, 2023 • 9:40:32am

re: #256 Belafon

If you were going to see your doctor, they could be interfering with medical care.

Even more serious. It was an appointment at my dealership for ding repair, tire rotation, and oil change.

262
Eventual Carrion  Aug 12, 2023 • 9:40:36am

re: #252 Dr. Matt

This was a tough one.

Connections
Puzzle #62
🟩🟩🟩🟨
🟦🟦🟦🟦
🟨🟨🟨🟨
🟩🟪🟪🟪
🟪🟪🟪🟪
🟩🟩🟩🟩

Yeah it was.

Connections
Puzzle #62
🟨🟨🟨🟨
🟦🟪🟩🟦
🟩🟩🟩🟩
🟪🟪🟦🟦
🟪🟦🟪🟪
🟪🟪🟪🟦

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TedStriker  Aug 12, 2023 • 9:42:38am

re: #127 ericblair

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Looks like Dr Feelgood was having a bit of a bad trip. LOCK HIM UP

“DON’T YOU KNOW WHO I AM!!!”

264
Romantic Heretic  Aug 12, 2023 • 9:43:45am

re: #238 Joe Bacon ✅

That Tree Of Liberty is sure thirsty for blood…

Blood! Blood! Blood for the Blood God. Skulls for the Skull Throne.

Because most ‘evangelicals’ these days are Khorne worshippers, with a fair number of Nurgle worshippers mixed among them.

265
TedStriker  Aug 12, 2023 • 9:46:33am

re: #132 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Watched a recent review of an electric vehicle, and one of its nifty gimmicks was that there were lights intense enough on the front that it will project warnings on the road ahead of you, to get your attention if you’re about to hit something, etc.

Well, ok, that’s neat. But maybe if the vehicle was designed so the driver was not insulated so much from the environment the said driver might be more aware of what is going on.

A fellow Doug DeMuro watcher, I presume… ;-P

Yeah, Mercedes’ new EQS 580 electric SUV can project warnings onto the road ahead; when Doug said that and showed Mercedes’ promo images of the tech in action, I was impressed.

266
Nerdy Fish  Aug 12, 2023 • 9:46:51am

I don’t think it’s necessarily a hard and fast rule that Christians must be pacifists. But I for damn sure will question anybody who advocates for murdering people in cold blood, or enabling people to murder others more easily.

267
Axolotl  Aug 12, 2023 • 9:48:02am

re: #37 Dave In Austin

Jesus!

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I just can’t believe the first time I read about this was on this site.

I grew up in the same town as Cory Booker in NJ. We played football together. His parents had to have a white couple buy their house for them. Before I heard about that I thought my community was accepting of people of color. I learned later, much later that this was going on.

268
mmmirele  Aug 12, 2023 • 10:04:24am

re: #125 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

I *struggle* with learning Japanese. *Struggle*. It’s a lot harder than Spanish or French (both of which I studied in university). I mean, I know why that is, Japanese has many more complex elements than Spanish or French. The written language is a mix of two phonetic lettering systems (hiragana and katakana) and one logographic system (kanji). The sentence order is subject-object-verb, not subject-verb-object. Particles (kind of like prepositions, except they’re after the word) are everywhere. Verbs are not especially complex up until you start piling suffixes on. There are over 2,000 kanji you need to know to be literate and I’ll be damned if I can’t seem to push my knowledge past 500. But Japanese is compellingly fascinating to me—there’s a whole world of literature/manga I cannot read because it’s locked away and I am determined to learn it.

I don’t know that the people making policy in West Virginia have ever had the experience of having a whole new world of insight open up when you learn a second language. I doubt it.

269
BigPapa  Aug 12, 2023 • 10:05:03am

re: #267 Axolotl

I didn’t learn about Tulsa until maybe 5 years ago, from black folks on Twitter. I’m still learning about racist bullshit.

270
Unabogie  Aug 12, 2023 • 10:10:00am

One of the worst things that institutional racism does is “prove” that Black people are more likely to be criminals using the statistics that more Black people are in prison. They start by harassing Black kids, then arresting them in schools for stuff that white kids do and get nothing more than suspensions for, then using their “criminal records” to justify prison sentences for infractions like a bag of weed or drinking underage (which white kids do at a higher rate) and then crow about all the “Black crime” that is being stopped by the system.

Then, they underfund the prisons and make it impossible for people to re-enter society and complain about “recidivism rates” of Black men who can’t get a job once they get out.

I think about that often when another story of prison massacres gets attention.

271
dat_said  Aug 12, 2023 • 10:10:35am

re: #250 Eventual Carrion

I used to be able to get scientific and medical papers for free when I worked at a large hospital system. The hospital system paid a yearly fee for access for doctors, nurses, medical techs and such. Even tho I was in IT I still had access to them. I don’t know what the yearly fee was, but I would bet it was not cheap.

You can use researchgate.net to find papers. If the author hasn’t already uploaded, they often respond to a request. I also get email alerts for recent papers in JAMA publications: jamanetwork.com

272
FFL (GOP Delenda Est)  Aug 12, 2023 • 10:19:49am

re: #270 Unabogie

One of the worst things that institutional racism does is “prove” that Black people are more likely to be criminals using the statistics that more Black people are in prison. They start by harassing Black kids, then arresting them in schools for stuff that white kids do and get nothing more than suspensions for, then using their “criminal records” to justify prison sentences for infractions like a bag of weed or drinking underage (which white kids do at a higher rate) and then crow about all the “Black crime” that is being stopped by the system.

Then, they underfund the prisons and make it impossible for people to re-enter society and complain about “recidivism rates” of Black men who can’t get a job once they get out.

I think about that often when another story of prison massacres gets attention.

And overlooking that a big chunk of “white privilege” is that a lot of slack for minor infractions is granted to white children and adults that are convenient for police or minor officials to use to harass blacks or other minorities. Or anyone said local police or officials assign as an enemy to be intimidated or driven out. (I expect that “raid” of a newspaper in Marion is something along these lines as well.)

273
TedStriker  Aug 12, 2023 • 10:20:28am

re: #269 BigPapa

I didn’t learn about Tulsa until maybe 5 years ago, from black folks on Twitter. I’m still learning about racist bullshit.

And Rosewood, too.

274
Dr. Matt  Aug 12, 2023 • 10:21:01am

re: #156 Anymouse 🌹🏡😷

Other paper authors are weighing in on this as well.

Via BlueSky:

And in many cases the authors pay thousands to publish a peer reviewed paper. I have probably spent 10k this year alone on 4 papers in major journals.

275
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 12, 2023 • 10:21:16am

re: #273 TedStriker

And Rosewood, too.

And the Chicago Race Riots of 1919 that were enough to convince my granddad to relocate to Gary, Indiana

276
darthstar  Aug 12, 2023 • 10:27:07am

re: #259 Backwoods Sleuth

And fast.

277
Shiplord Kirel: From behind wingnut lines  Aug 12, 2023 • 10:32:10am

re: #268 mmmirele

I don’t know that the people making policy in West Virginia have ever had the experience of having a whole new world of insight open up when you learn a second language. I doubt it.

Indeed. In many ways, Brazil is a world unto itself, vast and complex, primitive and rough in places, dizzyingly sophisticated and nuanced in others. That world was open to me because I speak Portuguese. It is much easier to learn than Japanese but few Americans bother to do so.

278
Shiplord Kirel: From behind wingnut lines  Aug 12, 2023 • 10:46:08am
279
Backwoods Sleuth  Aug 12, 2023 • 10:48:27am

re: #276 darthstar

And fast.

I see what you did there…

280
Wendell Zurkowitz ((slave to the waffle light))  Aug 12, 2023 • 10:49:04am

What are middle-class values?

How about strong schools, workers’ rights, affordable housing and medical care?

281
Shiplord Kirel: From behind wingnut lines  Aug 12, 2023 • 10:49:29am
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Sherlock Hound  Aug 12, 2023 • 10:51:00am

re: #277 Shiplord Kirel: Fan of Big Bird, Bert, and Ernie

Indeed. In many ways, Brazil is a world unto itself, vast and complex, primitive and rough in places, dizzyingly sophisticated and nuanced in others. That world was open to me because I speak Portuguese. It is much easier to learn than Japanese but few Americans bother to do so.

When I taught myself French to cope with the Trump administration, it was like walking into an animal shelter to adopt a pet, only to have one of the pets adopt YOU. That has been my French experience: La langue Française choisi MOI!

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mmmirele  Aug 12, 2023 • 11:04:58am

re: #282 Sherlock Hound

When I taught myself French to cope with the Trump administration, it was like walking into an animal shelter to adopt a pet, only to have one of the pets adopt YOU. That has been my French experience: La langue Française choisi MOI!

Yeah, I feel like that with Japanese. I remember the Japanese textbooks I used to sell when I worked in a college bookstore in the 1980s (along with other languages). I never looked in them, because I just was.not.interested. It wasn’t until after I went to Japan in 2018 and 2019 that I was completely *blown away*. And now it’s Japanese4EVA.

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A Three Hour Tour  Aug 12, 2023 • 12:39:34pm

re: #125 Love-Child of Cassandra and Sisyphus

Besides the overall student enrollement decline (which is itself a story that informs us of the state of the State of West Virginia), there’s this:

This is a long-term trend.

The learning of a foreign language is hard for most of us (and I do mean me.)

It’s something that cannot be bluffed through in college. It’s actually hard unless you are one of those people for whom learning languages as an adult (even as a young adult) is straight forward.

When I went to college I did not have a foreign language requirement, because I was in majors where that had already been the case for many years. Foreign language requirements for a B.S. didn’t exist, while at my university some B.A. programs did require such.

Engineering majors also typically did not have a foreign language requirement.

The deeper problem going forward, though, is that English will not always be the dominant language for science and engineering.

It is now, of course.

But a hundred years from now that could change.

Latin was the language of academia for centuries… until it wasn’t.

The darker side of all of this: Americans feel they don’t have to be interested in other cultures. I bet most young people in WV have never been outside the of the US. I bet most people in WV never deal with people from other parts of the world.

It’s an oddly self-destructive thing: sitting back in provincialism while one’s life is ever more dependent upon world events and global commerce.

But it’s where we’re at today.

From my experience from almost a decade of living in West Virginia, most young West Virginians have rarely, if ever, traveled outside of West Virginia, unless they live in a border county or in the Northern and Eastern Panhandles, until they reach adulthood and can flee the state for a better life elsewhere, much to the sadness of the parents and grandparents they’ve left behind, which the state’s politicians (of both parties) leverage into their campaign ads which whine that “It’s such a shame our young have left West Virginia for those evil other states.”

IIRC, West Virginia is around 92% white and Christian (predominantly Baptist and Evangelical). Beckley, in Raleigh County, had a very small Jewish community. Fayetteville in Fayette County seemed anti-Catholic. (During a production of “Lillies of the Field” that I was in, the actresses playing nuns had to make sure that their crucifixes were turned so the audience couldn’t see Jesus nailed up in order to head off complaints from the audience, and the woman doing hair and makeup went on an aside about how Catholics worshipped Mary and weren’t really Christian.)

Many of the doctors and healthcare providers in Beckley were immigrants, however, largely it seemed from the Middle East, which made things awkward in the immediate aftermath of 9/11.

So yeah, this news out of WV is anything but good. West Virginia’s provincialism is killing its future.

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LadyBehir  Aug 12, 2023 • 1:38:25pm

re: #218 Belafon

4 times the size of my borough.


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