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1 blue_like_jazz  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:03:02am

Cannon in D Mosque

2 Killgore Trout  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:03:06am

Cannon Ackbar!

3 phoenixgirl  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:04:05am

what next, hiding in the basement of a hospital? firing rockets from a school? /

4 SWPaul  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:05:15am

They keep finding bigger and bigger weapons in there. It's only a matter a time before they find a battering ram or something. BTW, those bullets to that thing were HUGE!

5 Kragar  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:05:15am

Rusted out POS. You would think for a people dedicated to the destruction of Israel, they would take care of their tools better.

/Yes, I'm still bitching about this.

6 karmic_inquisitor  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:05:18am

How dare Israel enter a sacred Mosque! War crime!

/

7 pegcity  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:05:19am

im sorry but i thought Anti Aircraft guns were just part of your standard Mosque decor?

8 Dizzy  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:05:25am

Sorry if this has been posted before. It is a literal human shield. Video at Elder of Ziyon.

IDF, most awesome!

9 scottishbuzzsaw  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:05:30am

It's there only to help facilitate worship.
/

10 Wyatt Earp  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:06:00am

Someone should tell the terrorist's "fodder." Heh.

11 baconeatingkaffir  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:06:16am

That's not a cannon.. its just something they got in the mail in a CAIR package!

12 SWPaul  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:06:26am

re: #3 phoenixgirl

Holding their mothers in a choke-hold while firing pot shots at IDF soldiers.

13 Last Mohican  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:06:26am

That's not an anti-aircraft cannon. It's a pipe organ. It just happens to only play one note.

14 quickslow87  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:06:29am

Clearly, the Zionists planted it. Hamas only desires peace.

/sarc

15 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:06:33am

Not a canon?
Hmmmm, how 'bout THAT!

16 Guanxi88  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:06:37am

Looking at that AA gun, I can't help thinking - How come my shul don't got one?

17 Oh no...Sand People!  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:06:39am

They have replaced the loud speakers for calling people to prayer with firing the cannon. I promise. That's what Mr. Hamaslamist told me.

/

18 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:07:34am

The thing looks ancient.
Do the Palis not know about oiling their weapons?

19 Guanxi88  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:07:44am

re: #5 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Rusted out POS. You would think for a people dedicated to the destruction of Israel, they would take care of their tools better.

/Yes, I'm still bitching about this.

Hey, from what I hear, that's about par for the course over there. Seems that maintenance just ain't on their to-do list. Ever.

20 pegcity  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:08:07am

the muslim call to worship has now been replaced with 50 caliber machine gun blasts,

coming to London, Paris and Oakland soon.

21 doppelganglander  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:08:27am

What, you guys don't keep cannons in your church basement? Last year, we had a swell picnic and set off a bunch of mortars in the general direction of the Presbyterian church. They were pretty steamed, but you know our motto: Ecumenical Understanding through Superior Firepower.

/

22 Ojoe  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:08:29am

Mosque means target I guess

23 DaddyG  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:08:41am

...but ...but it wouldn't fit in the collection box.

/

24 Dainn  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:09:50am

That is not a gun. It's a holy artifact of justice. Add this to the long list of crimes against the Zionist state.

25 Kenneth  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:10:13am

So what's the big deal? We have a canon in our church...

what, not the same kind?

26 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:10:14am

Diana Buttu will still lie about it.

27 Dainn  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:10:50am

re: #21 doppelganglander

Interfaith dialogue the middle eastern way.

28 lawhawk  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:11:20am

I just had someone commenting on my blog that they were not Hamas supporter, but that Hamas serves other useful purposes:

...establishing hospitals, education systems, libraries and other services...

I just finished ripping the guy a new one - noting that Hamas has no problem using schools, businesses, residences, hospitals, and mosques as ammo dumps to carry out their war against Israel. It makes no reason to attempt to argue that there's a difference between political and military wings of Hamas because both have the same goals, and both are answerable to the same people. The endgame sought by both is the same - Israel's destruction and the imposition of Islamic law.

Hamas does what it does precisely because it needs to further indoctrinate another generation in Islamist ideology, and putting out a few schools achieves that goal. Building a hospital (which actually was an Israeli built hospital, but which Hamas now uses as a command and control center and ammo dump) doesn't alter the fact of who Hamas is and their ultimate goals.

These videos just highlight that Hamas has only one goal in mind, and it isn't peaceful coexistence with Israel.

29 Randall Gross  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:11:24am

If there are weapons there, then it's mosque nix to me.

30 Taqiyyotomist  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:11:27am

re: #9 scottishbuzzsaw

You may remove the sarc tag, because you are absolutely, 100% correct.

31 CIA Reject  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:11:31am

Oh, all mosques have those. Why the one right here in town has-

Hey...

32 alegrias  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:11:53am

re: #7 pegcity

im sorry but i thought Anti Aircraft guns were just part of your standard Mosque decor?

* * * *
It's really a large pipe in the organ to play Pachelbel's Canon.

33 seekeroftruth  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:12:16am

Hey CNN - How about showing this video?

34 Randall Gross  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:12:21am

/pimf mosque nichts

35 angrymimi  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:12:22am

Their ignorance continues to amaze me....how can a group of people so backassward do anything with success?

36 [deleted]  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:12:38am
37 lawhawk  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:12:44am

[Salim Abu Aziz reveals a nuclear weapon]
Salim Abu Aziz: Do you know what this is?
Harry: I know what this is...
[Salim smiles]
Harry: This is an espresso machine.
[Salim frowns]
Harry: No, no wait. It's a snow cone maker.
[Salim approaches Harry]
Harry: Is it a water heater? /True Lies

38 DaddyG  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:12:48am

Q. What do you call a Mosque with an Anti-aircraft Cannon?

A. Target aquired!

39 SasquatchOnSteroids  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:13:05am

They'll be begging for the "right of return" for that altar ornament in about 3 seconds.

40 Taqiyyotomist  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:13:28am

All this is only "amazing" if you think the Devil does not exist.

41 opnion  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:13:42am

They only store weapons there in case the Crusaders come back, you know the Templars or something.

42 tokyobk  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:13:56am

the cannon of Islamic literature.

43 Buck  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:13:56am

Come on guys.... there are no weapons in the Mosque... that would be wrong.

Who are you gonna believe? Me or your lying eyes?

/daily kossak

44 angrymimi  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:14:10am

re: #40 Taqiyyotomist

All this is only "amazing" if you think the Devil does not exist.

Ahh...right...good point....

45 CIA Reject  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:14:12am

re: #40 Taqiyyotomist

All this is only "amazing" if you think the Devil does not exist.

Very true

46 lawhawk  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:14:17am

re: #32 alegrias

No no no... It's just the Hamas Symphony Orchestra's homage to the 1812 Oveture in 50mm cal.

47 Nevergiveup  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:14:40am

maybe they pray to the cannon like they prayed to the ICBM in beneath the planet of the apes. or one of them ape movies.

48 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:14:47am

re: #33 seekeroftruth

Hey CNN - How about showing this video?

You DO mean, don't you ... this video of Israeli soldiers emplacing one of their own anti-aircraft guns inside a Muslim mosque?

*GASP* ... th' HORROR of it!

/

49 Taqiyyotomist  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:14:51am

re: #41 opnion

They only store weapons there in case the Crusaders come back, you know the Templars or something.

Your lips ---> God's ears.

50 experiencedtraveller  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:15:01am

It is an old weapon. Looks like a .50 calibre. My first guess is old Russian (originally tank mounted?) weapon modified with a new mount.

51 Opinionated  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:15:16am

Thou should not Kill.

52 lawhawk  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:15:34am

Hamas really has a hard on for the 1812 oveture.

53 doppelganglander  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:15:42am

re: #41 opnion

They only store weapons there in case the Crusaders come back, you know the Templars or something.

Which is a legitimate concern, if you believe the History Channel.

54 angrymimi  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:15:44am

I was looking at the drawings on the floor - the one in particular with the the fist, fist with index finger pointed up and the fist with a "peace" sign...anyone know what that is meant to say?

55 bulwrk  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:15:51am

re: #38 DaddyG

What do you call a mosque without a weapons bunker?

Under construction.

56 Taqiyyotomist  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:16:04am

One day, hopefully soon, the historical image of the Crusades will be rehabilitated in the eyes of the (kuffar, civilized, rational) world.

57 Boxy_brown  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:16:30am

re: #13 Last Mohican

That's not an anti-aircraft cannon. It's a pipe organ. It just happens to only play one note.

I heard Arafat played the skin-flute.

58 Taqiyyotomist  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:17:18am

I gotta go. Before I post more on what I really think.
God bless you all, God bless Israel.

59 subsailor68  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:17:21am

I'm a little rusty on the Crusades, but didn't they start after the Moslems took Jerusalem? In other words, didn't the Moslems start it?

Kinda like Hamas and the rockets?

60 experiencedtraveller  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:17:32am

re: #52 lawhawk

Hamas really has a hard on for the 1812 oveture.

You should probably remind them that Tchaikovsky wrote the 1812 Overture in response to a big victory: the Russian defeat of Napolean.

61 alegrias  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:17:44am

re: #46 lawhawk

No no no... It's just the Hamas Symphony Orchestra's homage to the 1812 Oveture in 50mm cal.

* * *
Does the Hamas Mosque "Orchestra" use Russian or Chinese percussion "accompaniments"?

Hope & changey inquiring minds want to know, because this piece is traditionally played in Washington DC after the fireworks on the Mall!

62 DaddyG  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:17:51am

re: #57 Boxy_brown

I heard Arafat played the skin-flute.

He was first chair!

63 wrenchwench  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:18:01am

The convergence of mosques and weapons always remind me of this post. Especially comment #2.

64 angrymimi  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:18:14am

re: #58 Taqiyyotomist

I SO understand. Have a good afternoon!

65 phoenixgirl  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:18:16am

i can't hear vid's from youtube, my speakers work, and the sound is up on youtube and my computer....anyone else having this problem? any solution?

66 mean Gene  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:18:36am

Clean that thing or it may blow up in your face!
Maybe that wasn't true but I was always trained to clean every firearm after use.
IDF must have Hamas on the run to leave a weapon in that filthy state.
Seems as though it won't be long now before Hamas is totally repudiated as the ''strong horse'' of Gaza.

67 opnion  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:19:02am

re: #53 doppelganglander

Which is a legitimate concern, if you believe the History Channel.


Well, the Templars have morphed into Free Masons & Shriners as I understand it are part of it. I can see a bunch of guys on tricycles, wearing Fez's attacking the Palistinians. It could happen.

68 Kenneth  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:19:18am

re: #59 subsailor68

All of the lands in the Levant invaded by the Crusaders were previously Christian lands that were occupied by Muslim invaders.

69 subsailor68  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:19:49am

re: #68 Kenneth

All of the lands in the Levant invaded by the Crusaders were previously Christian lands that were occupied by Muslim invaders.

Thanks! That's what I remembered.

70 Son of the Black Dog  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:19:52am

re: #13 Last Mohican

That's not an anti-aircraft cannon. It's a pipe organ. It just happens to only play one note.

Well, the four barrel 40mm of WWII was referred to as a "Chicago Piano".

71 redc1c4  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:19:55am

did they find the Holy Hand Grenade yet?

72 Age Of Freedom  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:20:07am

That's a defensive Cannon found in a defensive Mosque.

73 Dianna  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:20:21am

re: #59 subsailor68

I'm a little rusty on the Crusades, but didn't they start after the Moslems took Jerusalem? In other words, didn't the Moslems start it?

Kinda like Hamas and the rockets?

After a substantial interval, yes.

Runciman's three-volume history is quite good.

74 LGoPs  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:20:26am

re: #35 angrymimi

Their ignorance continues to amaze me....how can a group of people so backassward do anything with success?

That's the point. They don't do anything with success.

75 LGoPs  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:20:52am

re: #71 redc1c4

did they find the Holy Hand Grenade yet?

That's in Antioch.....

76 DaddyG  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:21:09am

re: #72 Age Of Freedom

That's a defensive Cannon found in a defensive Mosque.

I find the defensiveness of Hamas and the MSM offensive.

77 subsailor68  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:21:18am

re: #73 Dianna

After a substantial interval, yes.

Runciman's three-volume history is quite good.

Good heavens, I'd forgotten Runciman. Thanks so much for the reminder...I've got to find a set again.

78 dhg4  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:21:30am

re: #46 lawhawk

No no no... It's just the Hamas Symphony Orchestra's homage to the 1812 Oveture in 50mm cal.

Calvin's favorite piece of classical music. :-)

79 opnion  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:21:44am

re: #59 subsailor68

I'm a little rusty on the Crusades, but didn't they start after the Moslems took Jerusalem? In other words, didn't the Moslems start it?

Kinda like Hamas and the rockets?

It has become a Liberal article of faith that the European Crusaders were gangsters. There were definitely excess's but the Crusades can be read as Christian Europe pushing back.

80 Boxy_brown  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:21:51am

re: #66 mean Gene


Clean that thing or it may blow up in your face!

x-nay on the een-klay, let nature take it's course. You routinely see these idiots blowing themselves up on internet videos. More proof of Darwinism for Charles.

81 little boomer  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:21:59am

Now it's a legit target. Blow up the mosque.

82 jcbunga  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:21:59am

Religion of Peace.

I don't think it means what they think it means.

83 [deleted]  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:22:14am
84 Kenneth  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:22:39am

re: #63 wrenchwench

Wow! great archival post! Note the date: April 16, 2001. Charles was wondering about what was going on inside the mosque. Well, in less than 5 months time, he found out.

85 DaddyG  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:23:01am

Perhaps its there to defend against ManBearPig?

86 beblebrox  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:23:03am

re: #70 Son of the Black Dog

Well, the four barrel 40mm of WWII was referred to as a "Chicago Piano".

Is that derived from the fact that a tommy gun during Prohibition was called a "chicago typewriter"?

87 subsailor68  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:23:17am

re: #79 opnion

It has become a Liberal article of faith that the European Crusaders were gangsters. There were definitely excess's but the Crusades can be read as Christian Europe pushing back.

Yeah...what was that turgid piece of crap movie, "Kingdom of Heaven"? I couldn't even get through it.

88 reine.de.tout  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:23:23am

re: #52 lawhawk

Hamas really has a hard on for the 1812 oveture.


[Video]

two of the buildings in that video were in Baton Rouge, where I live, and one of them was a building where I worked for many years, and was on the State Capitol steps when they brought it down.

89 LGoPs  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:23:26am

re: #83 Iron Fist

Mohammedans with weapons? Unpossible!

Inconceivable......

90 mean Gene  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:24:02am

re: #85 DaddyG

Perhaps its there to defend against ManBearPig?

More like the ManBearApePig.

91 [deleted]  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:24:15am
92 angrymimi  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:24:23am

re: #74 LGoPs

Have any idea on the drawings on the floor and their interpretation?

93 jcbunga  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:24:44am

re: #85 DaddyG

Perhaps its there to defend against ManBearPig?

Be cereal

94 Dainn  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:24:44am

re: #74 LGoPs

That's the point. They don't do anything with success.

They have succeeded in currying the favor of the world media while losing every possible military battle and blatently using thier nation as a platform for launching terrorist attacks on a democracy.

That has to count for something.

95 Guanxi88  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:24:47am

re: #92 angrymimi

Have any idea on the drawings on the floor and their interpretation?

Looks like Sunday School gone very, very wrong.

96 Age Of Freedom  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:25:21am

re: #76 DaddyG

I find the defensiveness of Hamas and the MSM offensive.

Seriously.

97 Peacekeeper  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:25:24am

What's the connection between Islam and weapons? Puzzling.

98 Marvo76  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:25:43am

I have been trying to enlighten two idiots on the Electric campfire, luckily Mean gene has helped some, but as of last night I gave up. For them it is always those evil Jooos and they should never be there in the first place, when I reminded them about Moses, David and Saul they write it off as fiction, I now know why they say "don't cast your pearls before swine" I would rather be here with the educated folks, at least you guys "get it"

99 Taqiyyotomist  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:25:46am

re: #59 subsailor68

I'm a little rusty on the Crusades, but didn't they start after the Moslems took Jerusalem? In other words, didn't the Moslems start it?

Kinda like Hamas and the rockets?

They were a very human response to Centuries of Islamic takeover. Muslims expanded into Europe quite non-peacefully, for hundreds of years, sowing nothing but destruction, dhimmitude, and death. That the Crusaders attached the Cross of Jesus Christ to their HUMAN endeavor is irrelevant. They did need a rallying point. Whether Christ would have done what the Crusaders did is beside the point. Humans can only take so many centuries of the brutality that is Islam. Think "Braveheart", only all across Europe, and over a MUCH longer timespan. Longshanks was Amish compared to the Ottoman horde. The Crusades were not "Christian", they just appropriated the image. They were a reasonable human reaction to a few hundred years of murderous rampaging Muslim aggression.

I spit copious quantities of hawkkkk-pthyu on those who use the Crusades as an excuse for Islam's current "back-to-the-basics" approach to the Jihad. "Well, Christians did it, so why don't you shut your hole all religions are the same yadda yadda yadda BANG"

100 angrymimi  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:25:54am

I was looking for some great ideas!

re: #95 Guanxi88

Looks like Sunday School gone very, very wrong.

101 notutopia  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:25:54am

50 cal machine gun with incendiary rounds

[Link: vids.myspace.com...]

102 LGoPs  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:26:03am

re: #92 angrymimi

Have any idea on the drawings on the floor and their interpretation?

Sorry, my video is blocked....can't see any of it.

103 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:26:07am

re: #6 karmic_inquisitor

How dare Israel enter a sacred Mosque! War crime!

/

I hope they took pigs with them.

104 [deleted]  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:26:21am
105 Guanxi88  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:26:49am

re: #97 Peacekeeper

What's the connection between Islam and weapons? Puzzling.

Like the Sikhs, who wear the small silver necklace pendant knife? Same idea, just a little bigger.

106 alegrias  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:26:53am

OT, "Catholic" leaders crushed islam--though it took 800 years on the plains in Spain. King Ferdinand & Queen Isabel rallied their troops to take back cannon-filled minarets and convert them to cathedral bell towers.

La Giralda in Seville Spain is a beautiful converted former minaret, next to the Seville Cathedral.

107 [deleted]  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:27:03am
108 subsailor68  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:27:04am

re: #99 Taqiyyotomist

Thanks! I really like your take on it.

109 Guanxi88  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:27:39am

re: #105 Guanxi88

Like the Sikhs, who wear the small silver necklace pendant knife? Same idea, just a little bigger.

Purely symbolic, you understand.

110 LGoPs  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:27:41am

re: #94 Dainn

They have succeeded in currying the favor of the world media while losing every possible military battle and blatently using thier nation as a platform for launching terrorist attacks on a democracy.

That has to count for something.

Although their ammunition supply of suicide bombers will eventually run out. There ain't no reloading mechanism for a splodeydope.......

111 Son of the Black Dog  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:28:34am

re: #86 beblebrox

Is that derived from the fact that a tommy gun during Prohibition was called a "chicago typewriter"?

Yep.

112 SasquatchOnSteroids  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:28:51am

re: #92 angrymimi

Have any idea on the drawings on the floor and their interpretation?

That's um....errr... a representation of jihad as an internal struggle.

113 subsailor68  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:29:22am

re: #110 LGoPs

Although their ammunition supply of suicide bombers will eventually run out. There ain't no reloading mechanism for a splodeydope.......

Kind of like the German pilots during the Battle of Britain? IIRC, the RAF boys would bail out over England and fly again, but the Germans ended up in either the Channel or a British POW camp.

114 angrymimi  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:30:12am

or is it?

re: #112 SasquatchOnSteroids

That's um....errr... a representation of jihad as an internal struggle.

115 Steve  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:30:26am

I want to see the exploding Korans!

116 subsailor68  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:30:37am

Well, to clarify, I'm not comparing the German pilots to splodeydopes.

:-)

117 debutaunt  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:30:49am

re: #46 lawhawk

No no no... It's just the Hamas Symphony Orchestra's homage to the 1812 Oveture in 50mm cal.

1812 Swingle Singers version -

118 opnion  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:30:57am

re: #87 subsailor68

Yeah...what was that turgid piece of crap movie, "Kingdom of Heaven"? I couldn't even get through it.

That movie was flat out awful. Riddley Scott gave CAIR the editing privileges that they demanded.
Did you see it far enough to hear the Balin character try to rally the troops to defend Jeruslem?
He said crap like , our shrines & holy things are no more holy than theirs, will you stand with me?
Not exactly Rockne firing up at half time.

119 Marvo76  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:31:02am

re: #107 taxfreekiller

Marvo76

-67

seems your getting the education

I just get more ammo from here, I always believed in Israel. The Uss Liberty is another one of their reasons to hate the Jooos. I personally hope they do make a decisive victory, and the sooner the better, since I have seen an article today which says they are getting ready to hit Iran in the coming days leading up to the inaguration, I bleieve this is new info, and not what was shown a few months ago

120 subsailor68  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:31:44am

re: #118 opnion

That movie was flat out awful. Riddley Scott gave CAIR the editing privileges that they demanded.
Did you see it far enough to hear the Balin character try to rally the troops to defend Jeruslem?
He said crap like , our shrines & holy things are no more holy than theirs, will you stand with me?
Not exactly Rockne firing up at half time.

LOL! Or Henry V's Saint Crispin Day speech.

121 Killian Bundy  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:31:58am

Avatar test for newsjunkie.

/Miss Izzy1

122 LGoPs  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:32:03am

re: #113 subsailor68

Kind of like the German pilots during the Battle of Britain? IIRC, the RAF boys would bail out over England and fly again, but the Germans ended up in either the Channel or a British POW camp.

Exactly....one of the advantages when you're defending home base, so to speak. An interesting bit of trivia is that it's arguable that the Battle of Britain was lost because of the lack of an auxiliary/droppable fuel tank on the ME-109. They were short legged and thus didn't have any appreciable loiter time over England to fully protect their bombers......

123 carefulnow  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:32:16am

re: #84 Kenneth

Wow! great archival post! Note the date: April 16, 2001. Charles was wondering about what was going on inside the mosque. Well, in less than 5 months time, he found out.

No wait. That date couldn't be from 2001. There's a glitch. I didn't start reading this blog until after September 11th. This post is from 2002 or later. Charles? Wasn't there a vast reregistering in 2004? Did that bump off the date of the above post?

124 MJ  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:32:20am

OT:

Clinton rules out negotiations with Hamas

WASHINGTON (AFP) – US secretary of state Hillary Clinton on Tuesday ruled out negotiations with the Palestinian Islamist militant group Hamas unless it drops its extremist stance, saying her position is "absolute."
"On Israel, you cannot negotiate with Hamas until it renounces violence, recognizes Israel and agrees to abide by past agreements. That is just for me an absolute," Clinton told a Senate confirmation hearing.
"That is the United States government's position. That is the president-elect's position," she said after a senator suggested it is "naive and illogical" to pursue diplomacy with governments opposed to Israel.
She echoed the stance of the outgoing administration of President George W. Bush which is supporting Egyptian efforts to mediate a ceasefire following an 18-day Israeli war to stop Hamas rocket attacks.

[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

125 lukas  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:32:41am

Will the UNRWA clowns demand an investigation of this? I am sure they can find a good reason for this large piece of ordnance in a mosque.

126 smokefire  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:32:45am

[Link: switch3.castup.net...]

Gaza cam is up again

127 angrymimi  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:32:47am

Where is this article you refer to?

re: #119 Marvo76

128 Son of the Black Dog  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:32:56am

re: #101 notutopia

50 cal machine gun with incendiary rounds

[Link: vids.myspace.com...]

Guy doesn't have the headspace set correctly, or he wouldn't have to keep pulling the charging lever to chamber a fresh round.

129 subsailor68  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:33:09am

re: #122 LGoPs

Exactly....one of the advantages when you're defending home base, so to speak. An interesting bit of trivia is that it's arguable that the Battle of Britain was lost because of the lack of an auxiliary/droppable fuel tank on the ME-109. They were short legged and thus didn't have any appreciable loiter time over England to fully protect their bombers......

Very interesting. I knew the ME-109's had a short time on target, but didn't know it was because of the fuel tank configuration. Thanks.

130 opnion  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:33:30am

re: #99 Taqiyyotomist

They were a very human response to Centuries of Islamic takeover. Muslims expanded into Europe quite non-peacefully, for hundreds of years, sowing nothing but destruction, dhimmitude, and death. That the Crusaders attached the Cross of Jesus Christ to their HUMAN endeavor is irrelevant. They did need a rallying point. Whether Christ would have done what the Crusaders did is beside the point. Humans can only take so many centuries of the brutality that is Islam. Think "Braveheart", only all across Europe, and over a MUCH longer timespan. Longshanks was Amish compared to the Ottoman horde. The Crusades were not "Christian", they just appropriated the image. They were a reasonable human reaction to a few hundred years of murderous rampaging Muslim aggression.

I spit copious quantities of hawkkkk-pthyu on those who use the Crusades as an excuse for Islam's current "back-to-the-basics" approach to the Jihad. "Well, Christians did it, so why don't you shut your hole all religions are the same yadda yadda yadda BANG"

As well put as I have ever heard it.

131 [deleted]  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:33:56am
132 Outrider  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:34:08am

Cant say I've ever seen anyone store ammo and weapons quite like Arabs do. "Hey Achmed, just dump them new shells over in the corner there. Yeah, don't mind the C-4. Excuse the mess, the maid can't come in this week due to the raids you know."

133 MandyManners  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:34:11am

re: #124 MJ

AFP is calling her the SoS already?

134 [deleted]  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:34:15am
135 [deleted]  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:34:17am
136 Conservative in Liberal Hands  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:34:17am

But seriously, to my uneducated eyes the weapon appears to be portable (barely). The bottom of the tripod has a tire on it. Does Hamas move their inventory around?

137 doppelganglander  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:34:23am

re: #67 opnion

Well, the Templars have morphed into Free Masons & Shriners as I understand it are part of it. I can see a bunch of guys on tricycles, wearing Fez's attacking the Palistinians. It could happen.

They're a real menace standing in the intersections around here, collecting money so poor children can go to the circus. And dear God, the clowns! The CLOOOOOOOOWNS!

138 Taqiyyotomist  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:34:47am

re: #108 subsailor68

No, thank you. It is a very layman's take on it, just my opinion. I haven't read any scholarly three-volume, ponderous, ten-pound tomes on the issue.

I once tried to read a three-volume set from the late 1800s on the Protestant Reformation. I got to page 20.

139 Marvo76  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:35:27am

saw this article today, see what you think...
[Link: www.newsmax.com...]

140 LGoPs  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:35:28am

re: #131 Iron Fist

What the hell is he shooting at? The top of the mountain? And he had a lot of jams or failure to feeds. M-2s are generally pretty reliable. Either the gun is dirty, the ammo is dirty, or the gun needs some work.

Maybe his head space and timing are off....? Although that would likely blow the gun apart. We were always warned about that.

141 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:35:44am

re: #87 subsailor68

Yeah...what was that turgid piece of crap movie, "Kingdom of Heaven"? I couldn't even get through it.

What really bugged me most about that movie was Baldwin the Leper, with no lips and half a tongue, speaking like a BBC announcer.

142 subsailor68  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:36:22am

re: #132 Outrider

Cant say I've ever seen anyone store ammo and weapons quite like Arabs do. "Hey Achmed, just dump them new shells over in the corner there. Yeah, don't mind the C-4. Excuse the mess, the maid can't come in this week due to the raids you know."

Heh. I had a friend years ago who did some contract work in the Middle East. He came back and bitched about how unreliable the trucks were. Every time something broke, the Arabs wouldn't try to fix it, they'd just say "It's Allah's will."

My friend's conclusion: "Allah don't fix nothin."

143 wrenchwench  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:36:30am

re: #117 debutaunt

1812 Swingle Singers version -

I gotta admit, I fast-forwarded through the middle, but that was great, in a bizarre sort of way.

144 Taqiyyotomist  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:36:52am

re: #135 buzzsawmonkey

The exploding Korans are available from Mahmoud's Joke & Jihad, along with rubber scimitars, chattering false teeth, the Civilian-to-Jihadi-to-Civilian Transformation Kit, the rubber practice ventriloquism face that looks like Bill Maher, and a host of other exciting items. Check out our website!

LMAO!@!

145 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:36:53am

re: #124 MJ

OT:

Clinton rules out negotiations with Hamas

WASHINGTON (AFP) – US secretary of state Hillary Clinton on Tuesday ruled out negotiations with the Palestinian Islamist militant group Hamas unless it drops its extremist stance, saying her position is "absolute."
"On Israel, you cannot negotiate with Hamas until it renounces violence, recognizes Israel and agrees to abide by past agreements. That is just for me an absolute," Clinton told a Senate confirmation hearing.
"That is the United States government's position. That is the president-elect's position," she said after a senator suggested it is "naive and illogical" to pursue diplomacy with governments opposed to Israel.
She echoed the stance of the outgoing administration of President George W. Bush which is supporting Egyptian efforts to mediate a ceasefire following an 18-day Israeli war to stop Hamas rocket attacks.

[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

Meanwhile, the 0's people are setting up ways of talking behind her back.
Is it true that the campaign worker who called Hillary a "monster" is on the State Dept transition team?

146 shiek al beif salami  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:37:09am

Only we in the West make a distinction between sacred and secular, or government and god. The sooner the West sets aside its self-imposed naivete about Mohammedanism, the sooner we will see the beginning of the end to this 1400 year-old monstrosity.

147 Joan Not of Arc  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:37:12am

No! I don't believe it! Only Americans defile mosques. This must be some sort of Illuminati trick!

148 newsjunkie_ky  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:37:20am

re: #121 Killian Bundy

Avatar test for newsjunkie.

/Miss Izzy1


Thank you Killian.

149 bloodnok  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:37:30am

re: #123 carefulnow

No wait. That date couldn't be from 2001. There's a glitch. I didn't start reading this blog until after September 11th. This post is from 2002 or later. Charles? Wasn't there a vast reregistering in 2004? Did that bump off the date of the above post?

It must be pre September 11, because Charles would have known EXACTLY what the significance of the event was if it took place after 9/11. Or I could be wrong.

150 yma o hyd  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:37:30am

re: #124 MJ

OT:

Clinton rules out negotiations with Hamas

WASHINGTON (AFP) – US secretary of state Hillary Clinton on Tuesday ruled out negotiations with the Palestinian Islamist militant group Hamas unless it drops its extremist stance, saying her position is "absolute."
"On Israel, you cannot negotiate with Hamas until it renounces violence, recognizes Israel and agrees to abide by past agreements. That is just for me an absolute," Clinton told a Senate confirmation hearing.
"That is the United States government's position. That is the president-elect's position," she said after a senator suggested it is "naive and illogical" to pursue diplomacy with governments opposed to Israel.
She echoed the stance of the outgoing administration of President George W. Bush which is supporting Egyptian efforts to mediate a ceasefire following an 18-day Israeli war to stop Hamas rocket attacks.

[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

We'll see how much of that survives, and for how long, amongst the Arabists at Foggy Bottom!

151 subsailor68  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:37:32am

re: #138 Taqiyyotomist

No, thank you. It is a very layman's take on it, just my opinion. I haven't read any scholarly three-volume, ponderous, ten-pound tomes on the issue.

I once tried to read a three-volume set from the late 1800s on the Protestant Reformation. I got to page 20.

Now that's a hoot! Congrats on getting to page 20....I'm waiting for the musical.

152 Age Of Freedom  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:37:45am

Looks like the Nazi tradition of fascist caricatures and drawings are taken to the next level in the arab world. Amazing what the IDF soldiers found in what would is the center worship of the Religion Of Peace MA™.

But since the MSM jumped on the Maximum Jihad bandwagon then we'll see (a lot) more of ROPMA™.

153 baconeatingkaffir  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:38:34am

re: #142 subsailor68

Heh. I had a friend years ago who did some contract work in the Middle East. He came back and bitched about how unreliable the trucks were. Every time something broke, the Arabs wouldn't try to fix it, they'd just say "It's Allah's will."

My friend's conclusion: "Allah don't fix nothin."

When I was in the emirates during my AF time we used to pray that none of our guys would have to be medevaced by the locals because of that very reason. Lookingback now I gues it wa silly because everyone knows they have defense contractors to deal with maitenance. Arabs wouldnt get their hands dirty and there's not passage in the Koran about rotor blades.

154 subsailor68  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:38:38am

re: #141 Alouette

What really bugged me most about that movie was Baldwin the Leper, with no lips and half a tongue, speaking like a BBC announcer.

Aren't those traits of all BBC announcers?

155 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:39:13am

re: #142 subsailor68

Heh. I had a friend years ago who did some contract work in the Middle East. He came back and bitched about how unreliable the trucks were. Every time something broke, the Arabs wouldn't try to fix it, they'd just say "It's Allah's will."

My friend's conclusion: "Allah don't fix nothin."

May all their weapons need "Allah"s fixing.

156 [deleted]  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:39:30am
157 Son of the Black Dog  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:39:30am

re: #113 subsailor68

Kind of like the German pilots during the Battle of Britain? IIRC, the RAF boys would bail out over England and fly again, but the Germans ended up in either the Channel or a British POW camp.

The limiting factor on how many fighters the RAF could put up to face the Luftwaffe wasn't how fast they could build aircraft, but how fast they could train pilots.

158 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:39:41am

re: #154 subsailor68

Aren't those traits of all BBC announcers?

BBC announcers have only half a brain.

159 Outrider  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:39:46am

re: #135 buzzsawmonkey

The exploding Korans are available from Mahmoud's Joke & Jihad, along with rubber scimitars, chattering false teeth, the Civilian-to-Jihadi-to-Civilian Transformation Kit, the rubber practice ventriloquism face that looks like Bill Maher, and a host of other exciting items. Check out our website!

Is this where I can get an Achmed "I keel you" puppet?

160 MJ  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:40:07am

re: #145 Kosh's Shadow

Meanwhile, the 0's people are setting up ways of talking behind her back.
Is it true that the campaign worker who called Hillary a "monster" is on the State Dept transition team?

Yes, Samantha Power is on the transition team:
[Link: www.huffingtonpost.com...]

161 Killian Bundy  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:40:18am

Avatar test for newsjunkie.

/Miss Izzy2

162 scottishbuzzsaw  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:40:33am

re: #158 Alouette

BBC announcers have only half a brain.

You're in a generous mood today.

163 Taqiyyotomist  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:40:43am

re: #151 subsailor68

Now that's a hoot! Congrats on getting to page 20....I'm waiting for the musical.

Well, thing is, I'm really interested in history, but it seems that historians, and especially theologians from the late 1800s, "are to riveting, engaging writing as Mt. Rushmore is to animation." to paraphrase some wit. I say I made it to page 20, but I was asleep by page 15.

164 subsailor68  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:40:51am

re: #157 Son of the Black Dog

The limiting factor on how many fighters the RAF could put up to face the Luftwaffe wasn't how fast they could build aircraft, but how fast they could train pilots.

Yep...did you ever get to see the British mini-series from years ago - Piece of Cake? I loved it - sad as it was.

165 Oh no...Sand People!  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:40:52am

re: #118 opnion

That movie was flat out awful. Riddley Scott gave CAIR the editing privileges that they demanded.
Did you see it far enough to hear the Balin character try to rally the troops to defend Jeruslem?
He said crap like , our shrines & holy things are no more holy than theirs, will you stand with me?
Not exactly Rockne firing up at half time.

If you have to rely on the 'pseudoandreia' you may as well make it worth it.

/Gates of Fire, Steven Pressfield reference...FYI

166 Silhouette  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:40:52am

re: #63 wrenchwench

The convergence of mosques and weapons always remind me of this post. Especially comment #2.

But things sure have changed since comment #1.

I knew there was a reason why I have never allowed my son to have any type of toy gun or anything that ever resembled while growing up

Right, lady. The problem was caused by playing with toy guns. /

167 Buck  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:40:55am

Seriously... how do you get that through a tunnel?

I mean how did they get that into Gaza?

168 debutaunt  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:41:10am

re: #160 MJ

Yes, Samantha Power is on the transition team:
[Link: www.huffingtonpost.com...]

Any visible tire tracks on her?

169 [deleted]  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:41:20am
170 doppelganglander  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:41:22am

re: #106 alegrias

OT, "Catholic" leaders crushed islam--though it took 800 years on the plains in Spain. King Ferdinand & Queen Isabel rallied their troops to take back cannon-filled minarets and convert them to cathedral bell towers.

La Giralda in Seville Spain is a beautiful converted former minaret, next to the Seville Cathedral.

Yes, it is. However, in the case of the Mezquita at Cordoba, the modifications were not an architectural improvement. The Renaissance nave and other features look out of place in an otherwise beautiful building.

171 Son of the Black Dog  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:41:28am

re: #122 LGoPs

Exactly....one of the advantages when you're defending home base, so to speak. An interesting bit of trivia is that it's arguable that the Battle of Britain was lost because of the lack of an auxiliary/droppable fuel tank on the ME-109. They were short legged and thus didn't have any appreciable loiter time over England to fully protect their bombers......

When Goering was informed that American fighter planes had been spotted over Hamburg, his response was, "We have lost the war."

172 baconeatingkaffir  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:41:39am

re: #167 Buck

Seriously... how do you get that through a tunnel?

I mean how did they get that into Gaza?

That was part of the Humanitarian Aid From Iran.

173 shiek al beif salami  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:41:46am

re: #152 Age Of Freedom

Mohammedans are a caricature of the Nazis.

174 Opinionated  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:41:48am

One of Israel's - and likely NATO's too- dangerous foreign policy delusions is that they have a friend in Muslim Turkey.

Turkish Prime Minister Recep Tayyip Erdogan on Tuesday reiterated his harsh criticism against Israel Operation Cast Lead aimed at restoring calm to the South of Israel.

Speaking to the Turkish Parliament in Ankara in a session that was carried by local television, Erdogan said his words were "less harsh than the white phosphorous shells used by the Israeli army."

"Whoever does not express resentment over the killing of civilians, including women and children, loses his self respect," Erdogan was quoted by Israel Radio as saying.

Erdogan said his criticism did not stem from anti-Semitism and emphasized that in the past he had termed anti-Semitism a crime against humanity.

BUT of course, villains are the Jews and their media:

But he then continued to say that "media outlets supported by Jews are disseminating false reports on what happens in Gaza, finding unfounded excuses to justify targeting of schools, mosques and hospitals."

[Link: www.jpost.com...]

175 treefish  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:41:49am

The religion of peace. Peace of hardware that is.

176 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:41:50am

re: #146 shiek al beif salami

Only we in the West make a distinction between sacred and secular, or government and god. The sooner the West sets aside its self-imposed naivete about Mohammedanism, the sooner we will see the beginning of the end to this 1400 year-old monstrosity.

Islamicists do too. Sacred is Islam, and anything that advances Islam; everything else is secular. Everything secular must be made sacred, or destroyed.
And that includes the use of force to kill nonbelievers or make them convert. The tools for such force are quite holy.

177 [deleted]  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:41:59am
178 newsjunkie_ky  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:42:01am

It's on threads such as this that I lurk. Were I to post my feelings I would get the banning stick.

179 Silhouette  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:42:17am

re: #167 Buck

Seriously... how do you get that through a tunnel?

I mean how did they get that into Gaza?

Brought in an ambulance? A UN "humanitarian aid" truck?

180 MandyManners  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:42:25am

re: #159 Outrider

Is this where I can get an Achmed "I keel you" puppet?

Why Dunham doesn't have a fatwah on him is a mystery.

181 subsailor68  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:42:40am

re: #163 Taqiyyotomist

Well, thing is, I'm really interested in history, but it seems that historians, and especially theologians from the late 1800s, "are to riveting, engaging writing as Mt. Rushmore is to animation." to paraphrase some wit. I say I made it to page 20, but I was asleep by page 15.

Man, I love that analogy...guess that's why there's a Bulwar-Lytton (sp?) contest, eh?

182 LGoPs  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:42:47am

re: #153 baconeatingkaffir

When I was in the emirates during my AF time we used to pray that none of our guys would have to be medevaced by the locals because of that very reason. Lookingback now I gues it wa silly because everyone knows they have defense contractors to deal with maitenance. Arabs wouldnt get their hands dirty and there's not passage in the Koran about rotor blades.

I used to fly Saudia a lot when I worked over there. One time on a trip to Jeddah we had to turn around almost at the halfway point of the trip because the pilots discovered that maintenance hadn't put enough fuel in to make it to Jeddah........prayed a lot when I was flying over there......

183 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:42:55am

re: #160 MJ

Yes, Samantha Power is on the transition team:
[Link: www.huffingtonpost.com...]

OK. Obama is setting up Hillary to be stabbed in the back. I'm sure of it now.

184 MJ  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:43:06am

re: #150 yma o hyd

We'll see how much of that survives, and for how long, amongst the Arabists at Foggy Bottom!

Yeah. Still don't know who Obama will name as his Arab/Israeli Special envoy. The NYT is promoting Miller, the worst of the bunch, but even they realize he doesn't have much of a chance:

[Link: www.nytimes.com...]

185 Taqiyyotomist  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:43:14am

re: #166 Silhouette

Yes, I was also taken aback by that. I wonder if she's still with us, under a new nic, and if so, if her stand on firearms has changed since '01.

186 opnion  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:43:20am

re: #120 subsailor68

LOL! Or Henry V's Saint Crispin Day speech.

Right it balin's speech had nothing to do with a "Band of Brothers"
It was more like, "Ya know I mean we're here & this Saladin guy is coming anyway, so ya know maybe we shoud try to stop him , but they're not really that bad." I am only mildly exaggerating.

187 [deleted]  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:43:21am
188 Kenneth  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:43:37am

Israel hitting Gaza with disputed shells
(AP/Abdel Kareem Hana)


They have provided some of the more dramatic photos of the nighttime Israeli attacks on Gaza: Shells that burst above Gaza City and send bright smoky tentacles out over the neighborhoods.

The shells not only provide dramatic photos, they also appear to contain controversial white phosphorus, which is banned from use as a weapon against civilians.

Note the reporters name, and then you can understand why he is confused about which weapons are "banned from use as a weapon against civilians" ...Isralei white phosphrus is banned, ...while apparently Hamas rockets are OK for "use as a weapon against civilians".

By the way: white phosphorus is not a banned weapon.

189 MandyManners  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:43:39am

re: #167 Buck

Seriously... how do you get that through a tunnel?

I mean how did they get that into Gaza?

Piece by piece? By boat?

190 Son of the Black Dog  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:43:47am

re: #131 Iron Fist

What the hell is he shooting at? The top of the mountain? And he had a lot of jams or failure to feeds. M-2s are generally pretty reliable. Either the gun is dirty, the ammo is dirty, or the gun needs some work.

See my No. 128.

/lots of rounds through a .50

191 mean Gene  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:43:54am

US/Israel arms shipments are being thwarted, like this one:
US cancels Israel arms shipment over Greek objections

WASHINGTON (AFP) — The US military has to had to cancel a planned shipment of munitions from a Greek port to a US warehouse in Israel due to objections from Athens, a Pentagon spokesman said on Tuesday.

"I think the Greek government had some issue with the offloading of some of that shipment in their country and so we are finding alternative means of getting that entire shipment to its proper destination in Israel," spokesman Geoff Morrell told a news conference.

"I don't think we've come to a final resolution on how or when that will take place."

The shipment had been agreed last summer before the current Israeli offensive in Gaza, he said.

He said the United States had operated the munitions stockpile for nearly 20 years and that Israel "can ask for permission to access" the munitions.

He said he did not know the nature of Greece's objection and whether it was related to security or political concerns.
[Link: www.google.com...]

192 debutaunt  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:44:08am

re: #181 subsailor68

Man, I love that analogy...guess that's why there's a Bulwar-Lytton (sp?) contest, eh?

[Link: www.bulwer-lytton.com...]

Hilarious contest!

193 Outrider  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:44:09am

re: #142 subsailor68

Heh. I had a friend years ago who did some contract work in the Middle East. He came back and bitched about how unreliable the trucks were. Every time something broke, the Arabs wouldn't try to fix it, they'd just say "It's Allah's will."

My friend's conclusion: "Allah don't fix nothin."

yup. It's always InsaAllah or masaAllah. Pretty much covers the range of things not happening, bad things happened or you want to happen.

Relieves one of responsibilities don't you know.

194 subsailor68  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:44:22am

re: #186 opnion

Right it balin's speech had nothing to do with a "Band of Brothers"
It was more like, "Ya know I mean we're here & this Saladin guy is coming anyway, so ya know maybe we shoud try to stop him , but they're not really that bad." I am only mildly exaggerating.

Jeepers, that gets the blood a'boilin.

:-)

195 baconeatingkaffir  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:44:49am

re: #182 LGoPs

I used to fly Saudia a lot when I worked over there. One time on a trip to Jeddah we had to turn around almost at the halfway point of the trip because the pilots discovered that maintenance hadn't put enough fuel in to make it to Jeddah........prayed a lot when I was flying over there......

A friend of mine was telling me about flying saudia back from Thailand to Riyadh. The 747 had a mosque in the back of the plane. Alot of people were going back and forth and it want prayer time. He stuck his head in the curtains later on and saw 2 empty whiskey bottles.

196 Kenneth  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:45:12am

I'm worried about the inevitable outrage as offended Muslims pour into the streets to protest this violation of the sacred mosques by Hamas as weapons bunkers and military firing positions.

Not.

197 subsailor68  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:45:16am

re: #192 debutaunt

[Link: www.bulwer-lytton.com...]

Hilarious contest!

Oh thanks for that link! (Bookmarked it.)

198 CIA Reject  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:45:17am

re: #135 buzzsawmonkey

The exploding Korans are available from Mahmoud's Joke & Jihad, along with rubber scimitars, chattering false teeth, the Civilian-to-Jihadi-to-Civilian Transformation Kit, the rubber practice ventriloquism face that looks like Bill Maher, and a host of other exciting items. Check out our website!

AH HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA *BREATH* HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA *SNORT* *Chuckle*
*ahem*
Heh!

199 newsjunkie_ky  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:45:23am

re: #183 Kosh's Shadow

OK. Obama is setting up Hillary to be stabbed in the back. I'm sure of it now.


I can see that happening. Get her out of the senate then clobber her. She hasn't resigned her senate seat yet though has she?

200 Steve  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:45:28am

re: #117 debutaunt

1812 Swingle Singers version -

Debutaunt: That was great. still laughing

201 debutaunt  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:46:24am

re: #200 Steve

Debutaunt: That was great. still laughing

nevernevernevernever

202 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:47:08am

re: #193 Outrider

yup. It's always InsaAllah or masaAllah. Pretty much covers the range of things not happening, bad things happened or you want to happen.

Relieves one of responsibilities don't you know.

So they should realize it is Allah's will that they're getting their asses kicked in Gaza. And in 1948, 1956, 1967, and 1973.
Allah loves his servants so much he wants them all to join him in paradise.

203 LGoPs  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:47:21am

re: #195 baconeatingkaffir

A friend of mine was telling me about flying saudia back from Thailand to Riyadh. The 747 had a mosque in the back of the plane. Alot of people were going back and forth and it want prayer time. He stuck his head in the curtains later on and saw 2 empty whiskey bottles.

I wouldn't be surprised. There was a common perception that the Saudi's believed that Allah could only see them while in the Kingdom. Once you were wheels-up I guess anything could go........

204 [deleted]  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:47:21am
205 Buck  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:47:21am

re: #191 mean Gene

US/Israel arms shipments are being thwarted, like this one:
US cancels Israel arms shipment over Greek objections

WASHINGTON (AFP) — The US military has to had to cancel a planned shipment of munitions from a Greek port to a US warehouse in Israel due to objections from Athens, a Pentagon spokesman said on Tuesday.

This is exactly why Israel has to make their own.... When a real crunch comes down, we can depend on no one.

"Those trains full of jews? Vacationing jews...."

206 Outrider  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:47:25am

re: #169 Iron Fist

The only M-2s I've ever been around were at Knob Creek. There must have been over a dozen of them there (including a quad-.50 AA site). I didn't see any of them jam or fail to feed, and they were going at it pretty hot and heavy. If it were an FAL doing this, I'd suspect that the gas regulator wasn't set right, but I don't think an M-2 has one of those.

And head-space issues would potentially make the gun dangerous to shoot. I like a .50, but I don't even know where I'd put one if I could afford it :-(

on the back of your pick up truck

207 doppelganglander  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:47:34am

re: #166 Silhouette

It's bizarre to see a thread with only 3 comments, and the preceding and subsequent threads with none at all. If that thread was posted today, Catherine would have gotten schooled.

208 yma o hyd  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:47:37am

re: #183 Kosh's Shadow

OK. Obama is setting up Hillary to be stabbed in the back. I'm sure of it now.

Heh.
If there's to be backstabbing, my money is on Hillary!
Lets not forget - she's got Bubba.
Obama - who's he got? WAB?

209 Taqiyyotomist  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:47:48am

re: #188 Kenneth

No sh**. Wow. Are there any weapons that have been ok'ed for use against civilians? That is a surreal quote.

210 Killian Bundy  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:47:54am

Avatar test for newsjunkie.

/Miss Izzy2 (take 2)

211 notutopia  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:48:10am

re: #167 Buck

Seriously... how do you get that through a tunnel?

I mean how did they get that into Gaza?

Taken down, in pieces, one man can easily carry it. The stand in that mosque is another issue. It was rolled into place and set up. Had to be transported in a truck.

212 baconeatingkaffir  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:48:26am

re: #206 Outrider

on the back of your pick up truck


I mean it worked pretty good in somalia.

213 MandyManners  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:48:40am

re: #208 yma o hyd

Heh.
If there's to be backstabbing, my money is on Hillary!
Lets not forget - she's got Bubba.
Obama - who's he got? WAB?

WAB's CBF is pretty scarey.

214 jcm  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:48:43am

So, what the problem?

Everyplace of worship should have anti-aircraft capabilities!

//////

215 Outrider  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:48:48am

re: #180 MandyManners

Why Dunham doesn't have a fatwah on him is a mystery.

maybe they consider it flattering? ;-)>

216 Son of the Black Dog  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:48:58am

re: #164 subsailor68

Yep...did you ever get to see the British mini-series from years ago - Piece of Cake? I loved it - sad as it was.

No, but I'll look to see if I can get it on DVD. Thanks.

217 Steve  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:49:00am

re: #135 buzzsawmonkey

Thanks, will give it a look;-P

218 Last Mohican  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:49:01am

re: #209 Taqiyyotomist

No sh**. Wow. Are there any weapons that have been ok'ed for use against civilians? That is a surreal quote.

Qassam rockets. Katyusha rockets. The U.N. has approved these for use against civilians.

219 mean Gene  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:49:03am

re: #145 Kosh's Shadow

Meanwhile, the 0's people are setting up ways of talking behind her back.
Is it true that the campaign worker who called Hillary a "monster" is on the State Dept transition team?

Samantha Power.
Yes, she quit the campaign after calling Hillary a ''monster.''
She also openly hates Israel.
The Baltimore Jewish Times, MD - Dec 30, 2008 said that the ZOA has slammed Obama’s transition team for including strident Israel critic Samantha Power.
But there's more.
According to this:
[Link: www.washingtonpost.com...]
Power is part of a transition team helping Clinton assume her duties as secretary of state.

220 Age Of Freedom  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:49:13am

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221 MJ  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:49:25am

re: #208 yma o hyd

Heh.
If there's to be backstabbing, my money is on Hillary!
Lets not forget - she's got Bubba.
Obama - who's he got? WAB?

He would have had Richardson whose a record as a backstabber is pretty impressive but he got caught before he could get in.

222 Marvo76  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:49:30am

re: #183 Kosh's Shadow

OK. Obama is setting up Hillary to be stabbed in the back. I'm sure of it now.

LOL who says she isn't getting ready to do the same to him? She IS a Clinton after all....

223 [deleted]  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:49:43am
224 shiek al beif salami  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:50:07am

re: #176 Kosh's Shadow

I recently moved back from a former Soviet republic in central Asia that boasted, according to them, several of Islam's most holy sites. I never learned how the holiness rating system worked, where it was housed institutionally, and under whose authority it operated, but after a thorough googling of the topic, I felt authorized by myself to call islamic holiness what it is: bullshit. For all I know, my dog's ass is a Mohammedan holy site.

225 Kenneth  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:50:10am

re: #183 Kosh's Shadow

re: #160 MJ

Yes, Samantha Power is on the transition team:
[Link: [Link: www.huffingtonpost.com...]...]

OK. Obama is setting up Hillary to be stabbed in the back. I'm sure of it now.

Samantha Power advocated using US troops to occupy Israel and force a 2 state "peaceful" solution on the troublesome Zionists.

Now she's on Obama's team.

Think about it.

226 Opinionated  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:50:19am

re: #196 Kenneth

I'm worried about the inevitable outrage as offended Muslims pour into the streets to protest this violation of the sacred mosques by Hamas as weapons bunkers and military firing positions.

You sir, do not understand Islam.

Any sort of weapon inside a Mosque is permissible. A cartoon depicting a weapon inside a Mosque is blasphemous.

227 subsailor68  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:50:45am

re: #216 Son of the Black Dog

No, but I'll look to see if I can get it on DVD. Thanks.

Hope this link works for ya:

Piece of Cake

228 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:50:50am
229 Peacekeeper  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:51:04am

Many of you claim that Islam is backward and stuck in the seventh century. This proves you're wrong! How many flak cannons does the vatican have?

230 LGoPs  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:51:06am

re: #209 Taqiyyotomist

No sh**. Wow. Are there any weapons that have been ok'ed for use against civilians? That is a surreal quote.

'Sploding bodies have been given the Good Housekeeping Seal of Approval by the lunatic left.........

231 opnion  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:51:08am

re: #137 doppelganglander

They're a real menace standing in the intersections around here, collecting money so poor children can go to the circus. And dear God, the clowns! The CLOOOOOOOOWNS!

They can clown the Pali's to death. Everybody hates clowns.
I even hated the speaker at Jack in the Box.

232 andopolis  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:51:12am

Was the cannon at least facing Mecca?

233 Kenneth  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:51:13am

re: #209 Taqiyyotomist

No sh**. Wow. Are there any weapons that have been ok'ed for use against civilians? That is a surreal quote.

You're not paying attention: if the Arabs use them against Jews, then anything goes. Geesh, do I have to explain everything?

234 Outrider  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:51:27am

re: #202 Kosh's Shadow

So they should realize it is Allah's will that they're getting their asses kicked in Gaza. And in 1948, 1956, 1967, and 1973.
Allah loves his servants so much he wants them all to join him in paradise.

nice touch. ;-)>

235 [deleted]  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:51:37am
236 Peacekeeper  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:51:47am

re: #223 Iron Fist

I thought that if your headspacing was wrong, the case could rupture. That would be bad on any gun, but on a .50 that would be disasterous.

One of the neat things they had a Knob Creek was a sawed-off .50. It had maybe a twelve or fourteen inch barrel. It created a massive fireball everytime as it fired. Not real practical, but still impressive.

Sometimes impressive is practical...

237 Kenneth  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:51:47am

re: #226 Opinionated

You missed my sarcasm. But I agree with you.

238 Opinionated  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:52:01am

re: #214 jcm

So, what the problem?

Everyplace of worship should have anti-aircraft capabilities!

//////

Even if not for worship and least for BINGO night.

When someone wins, they fire off a round.

239 jcm  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:52:04am

re: #209 Taqiyyotomist

No sh**. Wow. Are there any weapons that have been ok'ed for use against civilians? That is a surreal quote.

Wrong question.... ;-)
It depends on WHO is using them. Only Israelis and Americans are precluded from using weapons, everyone else? Go for it, the worlds is a free fire zone.

240 sattv4u2  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:52:06am

re: #199 newsjunkie_ky

I can see that happening. Get her out of the senate then clobber her. She hasn't resigned her senate seat yet though has she?

No. She's too smart to give that up before being confirmed!
On that note, isn't it great that we'll now have 3 senators (Dems, of course) that weren't elected (Hillarys Obamas and Bidens seats), with 2 of them really questionable! One 'appointed' by Blago and the other 9New York) to be appointed by a governor that wasn't elected !

241 Last Mohican  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:52:13am

re: #223 Iron Fist

You're talking about the Knob Creek Gun Range, right? "Home of the nation's largest machine gun shoot and military gun show"?

How close is that to the distillery where they make Knob Creek bourbon?

242 Son of the Black Dog  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:52:16am

re: #174 Opinionated

Israel HAD a friend in Turkey, when they had a secular government.

243 [deleted]  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:52:20am
244 lawhawk  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:52:20am

re: #188 Kenneth

The only ones disputing the shells are the human rights groups that couldn't find an international law that they couldn't misapply or misread as long as it applies to Israel.

No where do these same groups apply any measure of logic or international law to the terrorists in Hamas, whose every action constitutes war crimes and calls to genocide - a crime against humanity.

Hamas' charter demands genocide and ethnic cleansing. Yet these groups are silent.

WP is a legal and permissible weapon, and but for Hamas attacking Israel, WP would not be even fielded (along with the Israeli forces that are now engaged in killing Hamas in and around Gaza).

245 [deleted]  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:52:21am
246 baconeatingkaffir  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:52:38am

re: #224 shiek al beif salami

I recently moved back from a former Soviet republic in central Asia that boasted, according to them, several of Islam's most holy sites. I never learned how the holiness rating system worked, where it was housed institutionally, and under whose authority it operated, but after a thorough googling of the topic, I felt authorized by myself to call islamic holiness what it is: bullshit. For all I know, my dog's ass is a Mohammedan holy site.

Ithink I was in the museum in topkapi where they have the Imam reading the koran24/7 and one of ol mo's sweaters and shoes. That said... FOLLOW THE SACRED GOURD OF JERUSALEM! (apologies to the life of bryan)

247 Opinionated  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:53:01am

re: #237 Kenneth

You missed my sarcasm. But I agree with you.

I didn't miss your sarcasm. Just attempted to add to it.

248 Texas Heathen  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:53:09am

re: #169 Iron Fist

I like a .50, but I don't even know where I'd put one if I could afford it :-(

In your place of worship or your local elementary school of course.
/

249 shiek al beif salami  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:53:33am

re: #214 jcm

They believe Jesus will return on a cloud and they want to be ready to shoot him down before he messes up the whole allah thing.

250 yma o hyd  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:54:17am

re: #213 MandyManners

WAB's CBF is pretty scarey.

Without doubt - thats why Bubba will beat her hands down: charm gets results, CBF just puts people's backs up.

251 CIA Reject  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:55:16am

re: #195 baconeatingkaffir

A friend of mine was telling me about flying saudia back from Thailand to Riyadh. The 747 had a mosque in the back of the plane. Alot of people were going back and forth and it want prayer time. He stuck his head in the curtains later on and saw 2 empty whiskey bottles.

A friend of mine worked on the interior design for King Fadh's personal 747. Sucker had three bars in it! When he asked about it he was told that the prohibition on alcohol only applied 'on earth', so when you're flying it's OK to drink 'cause you are not 'on earth'.

/RIGHT!

252 redc1c4  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:55:22am

re: #169 Iron Fist

The only M-2s I've ever been around were at Knob Creek. There must have been over a dozen of them there (including a quad-.50 AA site). I didn't see any of them jam or fail to feed, and they were going at it pretty hot and heavy. If it were an FAL doing this, I'd suspect that the gas regulator wasn't set right, but I don't think an M-2 has one of those.

And head-space issues would potentially make the gun dangerous to shoot. I like a .50, but I don't even know where I'd put one if I could afford it :-(

didn't watch the video, but you can have the headspace correct, but still have the timing FUBAR.

if the timing is off, Ma Deuce get's cranky.

253 carefulnow  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:55:54am

re: #149 bloodnok

It must be pre September 11, because Charles would have known EXACTLY what the significance of the event was if it took place after 9/11. Or I could be wrong.

Hmmm. I stand corrected.

254 jcm  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:56:09am

re: #249 shiek al beif salami

They believe Jesus will return on a cloud and they want to be ready to shoot him down before he messes up the whole allah thing.

See it's a freedom of religion thing! The juice are deny them that!
////

Just a quick stop. Gotta run.

255 LGoPs  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:56:28am

re: #250 yma o hyd

Without doubt - thats why Bubba will beat her hands down: charm gets results, CBF just puts people's backs up.

Who are WAB and CBF? I tracked back thru the string but couldn't riddle it out.....

256 yma o hyd  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:56:37am

re: #221 MJ

He would have had Richardson whose a record as a backstabber is pretty impressive but he got caught before he could get in.

Heh.
Obama not off to a good start, is he!

257 Outrider  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:56:37am

re: #243 Iron Fist

I don't think it'd fit in my convertable, and my other car is a Harley. It'd look impressive as hell, but I'd think the recoil would be a bitch...

just had this mental image of a M2 mounted on a bike/sidecar and just what would happen when that .50 cut loose. ROFL

258 [deleted]  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:56:57am
259 Killian Bundy  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:56:59am

re: #178 newsjunkie_ky

It's on threads such as this that I lurk. Were I to post my feelings I would get the banning stick.

/checketh your e-mail for dog avatars

260 MJ  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:57:12am

re: #228 Alouette

European Court of Human Rights rules that Chabad Jewish movement is "fanatical, dangerous and radical."

Much more so than any movement in Islam, right Eurodhimmis?

Pure antisemitism.

261 baconeatingkaffir  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:57:21am

re: #257 Outrider

just had this mental image of a M2 mounted on a bike/sidecar and just what would happen when that .50 cut loose. ROFL


Yeah but I still think it would be easier to find a parking space.

262 LGoPs  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:57:33am

re: #251 CIA Reject

A friend of mine worked on the interior design for King Fadh's personal 747. Sucker had three bars in it! When he asked about it he was told that the prohibition on alcohol only applied 'on earth', so when you're flying it's OK to drink 'cause you are not 'on earth'.

/RIGHT!

see my # 203. You just confirmed it........
:)

263 lifeofthemind  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:57:48am

Hello, hasn't it gotten better yet?

264 right_wing2  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:58:03am

It's there to help the explosive growth of Islam

265 Kenneth  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:58:13am

Only an a moonbat academic could think the idea of sending a huge US army to occupy Israel, Gaza & the West Bank to enforce a 2 state solution and "build" an independent Palestine is a not only a good idea, but even remotely feasible. Insanity.

Nice to see she's one of Obama's closest advisers!

266 baconeatingkaffir  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:58:27am

Speatking of Muslims and their seperate but equal has anyone seen this yet? Muslim Google

267 mean Gene  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:58:57am

re: #226 Opinionated

You sir, do not understand Islam.

Any sort of weapon inside a Mosque is permissible. A cartoon depicting a weapon inside a Mosque is blasphemous.

Yes, I forget the twisted reasoning but the Koran forbids saying anything disparaging about a Muslim or Islam EVEN if it is TRUE!
I had seen this used by Muslims in the same business on the same street to literally KILL the competition!
The mob doesn't wait for a legal arrest, trial and conviction, they just murder the supposed ''disparager'' on the spot.
In that instance it was Muslim-on-Muslim crime so.
But the principle certainly applies to the dhimmi or the infidel, right?

268 Kragar  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:59:08am

re: #257 Outrider

just had this mental image of a M2 mounted on a bike/sidecar and just what would happen when that .50 cut loose. ROFL

Just remembered an old GI Joe comic where one of the Joes used to go around firing an M-2 from the hip.

269 CIA Reject  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:59:09am

re: #204 buzzsawmonkey

That much enjoyment deserves an upding.

ANYTHING that mocks that smug little schmuck Maher is hilarious.

270 Son of the Black Dog  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:59:30am

re: #206 Outrider

on the back of your pick up truck

About a year ago I saw an ad where some guy in Indiana was selling a full military Humvee, complete with an (inop) .50. Now THAT'S something that would get you some respect in traffic.

271 Outrider  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:59:33am

re: #265 Kenneth

Only an a moonbat academic could think the idea of sending a huge US army to occupy Israel, Gaza & the West Bank to enforce a 2 state solution and "build" an independent Palestine is a not only a good idea, but even remotely feasible. Insanity.

Nice to see she's one of Obama's closest advisers!

especially from a group against the whole Armies, violence, warfare, etc type thing anyway. Except when it furthers their agenda apparently.

272 CapeCoddah  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:59:36am

Good Afternoon everyone!
I just got back from a visit to a zoo where I was allowed to play with a new lion cub. A friend took these pics, he is gorgeous. Not named yet. It was a blast.
http://s327.photobucket.com/albums/k455/hlgavigan/

273 yma o hyd  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 11:59:58am

re: #229 Peacekeeper

Many of you claim that Islam is backward and stuck in the seventh century. This proves you're wrong! How many flak cannons does the vatican have?

Excellent point - a similar question was asked by Stalin, iirc, as well.

Vatican - still standing.

Soviet Union - not so much ...

ROP - we'll see!

274 [deleted]  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:00:17pm
275 [deleted]  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:00:19pm
276 Taqiyyotomist  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:00:20pm

re: #225 Kenneth

Samantha Power advocated using US troops to occupy Israel and force a 2 state "peaceful" solution on the troublesome Zionists.

Now she's on Obama's team.

Think about it.

I've been thinking about it. And when I bring up what I fear, I am told,
"Ah, that will never happen."
I get that response about a lot of things which I see trends towards.

277 lifeofthemind  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:00:25pm

re: #266 baconeatingkaffir

Speatking of Muslims and their seperate but equal has anyone seen this yet? Muslim Google

Can you see what it gets that isn't in the English version of Google, on a search of jews and pigs for instance?

278 right_wing2  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:00:42pm

re: #258 Iron Fist

A college friend & I are heading there in April. The budget's a bit tight to do the shooting either one of us would like to, but it'll be worth the trip. Maybe things will look a little better cash-wise next year.

279 Steve  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:00:50pm

re: #266 baconeatingkaffir

Speatking of Muslims and their seperate but equal has anyone seen this yet? Muslim Google

I googled "PIG" and got:
[Link: www.muslumangoogle.com...]

Anybody know what it means?

280 LGoPs  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:01:10pm

re: #268 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Just remembered an old GI Joe comic where one of the Joes used to go around firing an M-2 from the hip.

That would sure never happen in real life. Well maybe one round before the guy got knocked into next week........

281 Kenneth  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:01:40pm

re: #276 Taqiyyotomist

It's happening. Believe it.

282 shiek al beif salami  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:02:06pm

re: #251 CIA Reject

On flights from the middle east, I was always amazed at how few of the abayehs that walked onto a plane ever walked off in Europe. And the cart full of miniatures was usually depleted by flight's end.

I wonder if Fadh's 747 has a "I Heart Islam" sticker on the back bumper? And I also wonder if he still has to drive his '06 747 because of the collapse of oil prices?

283 [deleted]  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:02:09pm
284 lifeofthemind  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:02:19pm

re: #275 buzzsawmonkey

OT

Hacker changes Synagogue Website to Pro-Hamas Message.

Israel needs to train security teams and send them covertly to Europe and North America and India. The governments can not defend the Jews, Israel must

285 bloodnok  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:02:23pm

re: #275 buzzsawmonkey

OT

Hacker changes Synagogue Website to Pro-Hamas Message.

“For Palestine For Gazza (sic) For Hamas.”

They want to give Palestine to an English footballer?

286 Opinionated  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:02:30pm

re: #267 mean Gene

When a picture is worth a thousand posts.

Image: behead_those_who_insult_islam.jpg

287 redc1c4  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:02:44pm

re: #128 Son of the Black Dog

Guy doesn't have the headspace set correctly, or he wouldn't have to keep pulling the charging lever to chamber a fresh round.

sounds more like a timing issue....... i can't get the video to play to tell for sure.

heaspace being off gives you a much more exciting issue than just having to pull back the charging handle lots. %-)

288 mean Gene  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:02:50pm

Poor Hillary.
I hope she hasn't already given up her Senate seat, because she's not long for the 0bama administration.
TV news just showed her saying absolutely she would never negotiate with Hamas until they gave up violence, changed their charter to recognize Israel and agreed to more.
Samantha Powers will have her job in weeks if not months.

289 baconeatingkaffir  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:02:51pm

re: #277 lifeofthemind

I googled "yahudi" which is turkish for jew and wthis is what I got

Yasak
Bu web sayfasına erişim izniniz yok veya bu web sayfası Hizmet Şartları ihlalleri nedeniyle devre dışı bırakılmış.

Yasak means forbidden.

290 Outrider  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:02:52pm

re: #270 Son of the Black Dog

About a year ago I saw an ad where some guy in Indiana was selling a full military Humvee, complete with an (inop) .50. Now THAT'S something that would get you some respect in traffic.

sure make them damn soccer moms and their freaking mini vans back the hell off. ;-)>

291 Kragar  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:02:53pm

re: #280 LGoPs

That would sure never happen in real life. Well maybe one round before the guy got knocked into next week........

Nope, the joys of comic books. He would fire full belts from the hips.

Here he is

292 MandyManners  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:02:54pm

re: #255 LGoPs

Who are WAB and CBF? I tracked back thru the string but couldn't riddle it out.....

WAB is WhneyAssBitch and CBF is CatButtFace.

293 Ayatollah Ghilmeini  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:02:55pm

It is precisely because they don't respect their own houses of worship that they lose. If you don't respect your self and where you worship, your motivation for fighting is weak and you don't come through in the clutch.

Hamas is going to have to send their troops back to the fire hoops for extra practice!

294 [deleted]  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:02:58pm
295 Taqiyyotomist  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:03:23pm

re: #253 carefulnow

Hmmm. I stand corrected.

"I could be wrong"
"I stand corrected."

"What are 'phrases you'll never see at DKos or Huffpo', Alex?"

296 LGoPs  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:03:32pm

re: #292 MandyManners

WAB is WhneyAssBitch and CBF is CatButtFace.

Thanks......LOL

297 yma o hyd  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:03:51pm

re: #255 LGoPs

Who are WAB and CBF? I tracked back thru the string but couldn't riddle it out.....

Ahh - they are Mandy's poingnant acronyms for Obamas wife, created during the election campaign:

WAB = Whiney A*** Bitch
CBF = Cat Butt Face.

298 MJ  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:03:59pm

re: #275 buzzsawmonkey

OT

Hacker changes Synagogue Website to Pro-Hamas Message.

"...As battles raged in Gaza on Tuesday, Jan. 6, an anti-Israel computer hacker altered the Web site of the Bay Ridge Jewish Center so that visitors were greeted with this message: “Death to Israel.”

Anti-Israel hacker? I thought the Left and the MSM keep telling us that Jews and Zionists are two different things? That you can be anti-Zionist but not be Anti-Jew? So why would this poor, misguided individual attack a Jewish Center's web site?

299 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:04:16pm

When I go to church, why am I always the one that has to sit next to the warhead? Everybody sits on the other side, stares at me, and flinches every time I sit or stand.

300 [deleted]  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:04:22pm
301 lifeofthemind  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:04:23pm

re: #289 baconeatingkaffir

I googled "yahudi" which is turkish for jew and wthis is what I got

Yasak
Bu web sayfasına erişim izniniz yok veya bu web sayfası Hizmet Şartları ihlalleri nedeniyle devre dışı bırakılmış.

Yasak means forbidden.

Thanks, that makes everything perfectly clear

302 Son of the Black Dog  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:04:43pm

re: #223 Iron Fist

I thought that if your headspacing was wrong, the case could rupture. That would be bad on any gun, but on a .50 that would be disasterous.

Too little headspace will result in a failure to fire and/or feed the next round. Too much headspace (a lot too much) could give you a case rupture, although more likely you'd get a failure to fire because the bolt wouldn't seat.

303 baconeatingkaffir  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:05:11pm

re: #301 lifeofthemind

Where are the google lawyers when you need them?

304 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:05:16pm

re: #218 Last Mohican

Qassam rockets. Katyusha rockets. The U.N. has approved these for use against civilians.

No, because the UN doesn't believe there are any Israeli civilians. Even a newborn will be in the IDF, so he's not a civilian.
/well, the UN hasn't said it, but Hamas has.

305 Kenneth  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:05:46pm

re: #303 baconeatingkaffir

Where are the google lawyers when you need them?

Cashing cheques from China.

306 Steve  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:06:01pm

re: #289 baconeatingkaffir

I googled "yahudi" which is turkish for jew and wthis is what I got

Yasak
Bu web sayfasına erişim izniniz yok veya bu web sayfası Hizmet Şartları ihlalleri nedeniyle devre dışı bırakılmış.

Yasak means forbidden.

thanks I was wondering what Yasak means. Got the same thing when I googled 'pig.'

307 Outrider  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:06:17pm

re: #289 baconeatingkaffir

I googled "yahudi" which is turkish for jew and wthis is what I got

Yasak
Bu web sayfasına erişim izniniz yok veya bu web sayfası Hizmet Şartları ihlalleri nedeniyle devre dışı bırakılmış.

Yasak means forbidden.

everything I entered, I got the same thing.... the Yasak thing. must be that kaffir thinking

308 lifeofthemind  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:06:17pm

re: #303 baconeatingkaffir

Where are the google lawyers when you need them?

On the other side
"Do no evil"
spit

309 mean Gene  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:06:19pm

re: #304 Kosh's Shadow

No, because the UN doesn't believe there are any Israeli civilians. Even a newborn will be in the IDF, so he's not a civilian.
/well, the UN hasn't said it, but Hamas has.

As have the 60 countries in the UN where Sharia Law is the law of their land.
They're getting close to a majority.

310 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:06:40pm

Is anyone else here watching the Gaza webcam?
I've tried three links. All are showing the same scene, BUT no audio.

Anyone else getting audio?

311 CIA Reject  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:07:04pm

re: #262 LGoPs

see my # 203. You just confirmed it........
:)

Yup! And that's another thing that annoys me about islam- "religions" that reduce the relationship between G*d and man to some kind of "gotcha" game are really irritating...

312 baconeatingkaffir  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:07:07pm

re: #306 Steve

It also mentions something about the "prophets teaching" or sothing like that. I thought google was a "non-prophet " organization?

313 redc1c4  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:07:09pm

re: #270 Son of the Black Dog

About a year ago I saw an ad where some guy in Indiana was selling a full military Humvee, complete with an (inop) .50. Now THAT'S something that would get you some respect in traffic.

one year someone called the CHP because our BN scout platoon, in their gun jeeps, was outposting all the freeway interchanges to make sure the cinvoy stayed on track....

314 lifeofthemind  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:07:20pm

re: #310 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Is anyone else here watching the Gaza webcam?
I've tried three links. All are showing the same scene, BUT no audio.

Anyone else getting audio?

All I got was a Hamas hospital propaganda video

315 Opinionated  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:07:23pm

re: #275 buzzsawmonkey

“Death to Israel.”

They definitely lose points when judged for originality.

316 Guanxi88  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:07:34pm

re: #294 buzzsawmonkey

That's disgusting.

That's worse than disgusting - that's freakin' disturbing. Hey, just a heads-up - you frum out there, you're dangerous, you get it? You are the problem according to these guys, not the folks howling for your blood, but you. And guys like me, who aren't so observant, we're suspect, evidently.

I know the L-rd spared Sodom for Lot's sake, but He eventually go him out of there, and let justice be done. Just saying, maybe a trip abroad is in order?

317 yma o hyd  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:07:43pm

re: #285 bloodnok

“For Palestine For Gazza (sic) For Hamas.”

They want to give Palestine to an English footballer?

And alcoholic (yes, its sad) ex-footballer, at that ...

318 opnion  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:07:44pm

re: #286 Opinionated

When a picture is worth a thousand posts.

[Link: mypetjawa.mu.nu...]

Beheadings & now Crucifixions. I don't see why we can't do business with these people & really should have more immigrate.

319 Killgore Trout  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:07:59pm

Official Hamas Youtube channel?
AlQassamTube

320 newsjunkie_ky  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:08:04pm

re: #259 Killian Bundy

/checketh your e-mail for dog avatars


Thank you.

321 Kragar  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:08:10pm

re: #309 mean Gene

As have the 60 countries in the UN where Sharia Law is the law of their land.
They're getting close to a majority.

Restore the Caliphate! Then give the Caliphate 1 seat in the UN and tell the rest to GTFO. Fuck their majority.

322 Guanxi88  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:08:11pm

re: #304 Kosh's Shadow

No, because the UN doesn't believe there are any Israeli civilians. Even a newborn will be in the IDF, so he's not a civilian.
/well, the UN hasn't said it, but Hamas has.

Say something once, why say it again?

323 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:08:15pm

re: #310 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Here let me help.

COCKLE-DOO-DLE-DOOOOOO!

BOOM!

RAT-A-TAT-TAT!

CALL TO WORSHIP!

COCKLE-DOO-DLE-DOOOOOO!

324 Leonidas Hoplite  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:08:15pm

re: #129 subsailor68

Very interesting. I knew the ME-109's had a short time on target, but didn't know it was because of the fuel tank configuration. Thanks.

The Luftwaffe was designed to support the operations of the army, thus short range fighters and twin-engine bombers. If they had possessed a true long-range strategic capability the continent would still be goose-stepping. Of course, the way things are going that is likely to happen anyway.

325 Killian Bundy  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:08:26pm

Judging by the bent wheel, it doesn't look like that ancient, poorly maintained 40mm anti-aircraft "cannon" is readily mobile, if even operable.

/it's certainly not in a firing position and I didn't see any rounds for it

326 Outrider  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:08:27pm

re: #298 MJ

Anti-Israel hacker? I thought the Left and the MSM keep telling us that Jews and Zionists are two different things? That you can be anti-Zionist but not be Anti-Jew? So why would this poor, misguided individual attack a Jewish Center's web site?

according to the photos Zombie took, all that went away. They were finally using the word Jew, as well as Zionist. Lots of anti-Jewish sentiment in those photos.

327 Ayatollah Ghilmeini  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:08:45pm

re: #272 CapeCoddah

Good Afternoon everyone!
I just got back from a visit to a zoo where I was allowed to play with a new lion cub. A friend took these pics, he is gorgeous. Not named yet. It was a blast.
http://s327.photobucket.com/albums/k455/hlgavigan/

corrected linky

328 Big Steve  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:08:45pm

re: #312 baconeatingkaffir

It also mentions something about the "prophets teaching" or sothing like that. I thought google was a "non-prophet " organization?

Google Non Profit......oh that was a good one. I sure hope note in that I own some of their stock. You might, if you weren't being sarcastic, be referring to Wikipedia.

329 shiek al beif salami  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:08:53pm

re: #315 Opinionated

They got it mostly right, though. If they changed "to" to "from", they'd be dead-nuts on.

330 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:09:16pm

re: #314 lifeofthemind

All I got was a Hamas hospital propaganda video

Yeah, I got that earlier. Now they're showing the real stuff -- a very fierce fire burning in the distance, growing larger by the half-hour.

331 baconeatingkaffir  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:09:26pm

re: #313 redc1c4

one year someone called the CHP because our BN scout platoon, in their gun jeeps, was outposting all the freeway interchanges to make sure the cinvoy stayed on track....

I remember as an SP augmentee doing a convoy in Gfermany and some guy weaving in and out of the deuce and a halfs in a ford cortina. One of the Southern boys in our truck popped up with his weapon and Herman ze German left about a mile of skidmarks on the autobahn not tomention what he must have left in his pants.

332 alegrias  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:09:27pm

re: #145 Kosh's Shadow

Meanwhile, the 0's people are setting up ways of talking behind her back.
Is it true that the campaign worker who called Hillary a "monster" is on the State Dept transition team?

* ** *
Samantha Powers! Harvahd professor!

333 Outrider  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:09:36pm

re: #306 Steve

thanks I was wondering what Yasak means. Got the same thing when I googled 'pig.'

same when goggling naked women. Even when putting it into arabic. ;-)>

334 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:09:46pm

re: #322 Guanxi88

Say something once, why say it again?

Are you saying there are psycho killers around?

335 lifeofthemind  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:10:02pm

re: #285 bloodnok

“For Palestine For Gazza (sic) For Hamas.”

They want to give Palestine to an English footballer?

Works for me

Boss we think we have a plan.

336 [deleted]  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:10:05pm
337 Guanxi88  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:10:14pm

re: #334 Kosh's Shadow

Are you saying there are psycho killers around?

Don't touch me, I'm a real live wire.

338 Silhouette  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:10:17pm

re: #275 buzzsawmonkey

So the helpful headline writer diluted "Death to Israel" to just a "pro-Hamas message?"

"Golly, Martha. A pro-Hamas message don't sound too bad. Wunder wut they wrote?"

339 mean Gene  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:10:27pm

This is so sad./
Image: r1645453159.jpg

Hardline demonstrators burn posters of U.S. President-elect Barack Obama, during a demonstration in support of the people of Gaza, in front of the Swiss Embassy in Tehran January 13, 2009.
REUTERS/Stringer (IRAN)


I don't think empty-handed talking with them will be enough anymore.
Poor foolish American voters.

340 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:10:34pm

re: #323 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Here let me help.

COCKLE-DOO-DLE-DOOOOOO!
BOOM!
RAT-A-TAT-TAT!
CALL TO WORSHIP!
COCKLE-DOO-DLE-DOOOOOO!

Thank you VERRRRY much.
I feel better already.
(-:

341 LGoPs  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:10:43pm

re: #311 CIA Reject

Yup! And that's another thing that annoys me about islam- "religions" that reduce the relationship between G*d and man to some kind of "gotcha" game are really irritating...

Ed Zachary. Somebody upstream mentioned the abayeh's coming off on flights to Europe. Same in reverse...I always knew we were approaching the Kingdom when the women, dressed in western attire, would disappear and then reappear all blacked out.........some beautiful women by the way....

342 yma o hyd  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:11:12pm

re: #288 mean Gene

Poor Hillary.
I hope she hasn't already given up her Senate seat, because she's not long for the 0bama administration.
TV news just showed her saying absolutely she would never negotiate with Hamas until they gave up violence, changed their charter to recognize Israel and agreed to more.
Samantha Powers will have her job in weeks if not months.

Save you compassion - I seriously doubt that Samantha will be able to stand up to a Hildebeast in the full regalia of SecState.

Samatha may be a moonbat icon - Hillary does have experience of 'life in Washington'.
Very unequal contest.

343 mean Gene  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:11:37pm

re: #321 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Restore the Caliphate! Then give the Caliphate 1 seat in the UN and tell the rest to GTFO. Fuck their majority.

Promise them that and stand back to watch the carnage as they fight for who gets to be the Caliph!
That'll keep 'em busy for a couple of generations at least!

344 lifeofthemind  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:12:00pm

re: #330 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Yeah, I got that earlier. Now they're showing the real stuff -- a very fierce fire burning in the distance, growing larger by the half-hour.

Thank you, now I have it for what it is worth that is fierce

345 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:12:00pm

re: #325 Killian Bundy

Judging by the bent wheel, it doesn't look like that ancient, poorly maintained 40mm anti-aircraft "cannon" is readily mobile, if even operable.

/it's certainly not in a firing position and I didn't see any rounds for it

I saw the IDF fellows laying out a couple of belts on the floor.

346 mean Gene  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:12:12pm

At #339 the link is to a Photo.

347 Guanxi88  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:12:14pm

re: #342 yma o hyd

Save you compassion - I seriously doubt that Samantha will be able to stand up to a Hildebeast in the full regalia of SecState.

Is that the one with the spiky helmet?

348 MandyManners  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:12:17pm

It's 10:12. Do you know where your rooster is?

349 Silhouette  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:12:43pm

re: #323 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Here let me help.

COCKLE-DOO-DLE-DOOOOOO!

BOOM!

RAT-A-TAT-TAT!

CALL TO WORSHIP!

COCKLE-DOO-DLE-DOOOOOO!

And yet I watched it for 2 hours last night, facinated.

What is wrong with me?

350 Guanxi88  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:12:51pm

re: #348 MandyManners

It's 10:12. Do you know where your rooster is?

Scared sh*tless in Gaza.

351 Outrider  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:12:58pm

re: #313 redc1c4

one year someone called the CHP because our BN scout platoon, in their gun jeeps, was outposting all the freeway interchanges to make sure the cinvoy stayed on track....

California for you. Back in the mid 80s, we had an exercise in Texas that encompassed the entire state. III Corps went to the outer reaches on all four sides for a playing field and the civilians loved it.

There were convoys out on the far back roads as well as interstates. Many ranchers made land available for armor and mechanized operations. Choppers and aircraft were all over the skies.

352 bloodnok  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:13:05pm

re: #348 MandyManners

It's 10:12. Do you know where your rooster is?

Please pay attention to the giant clock. Do what it says.

353 Opinionated  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:13:07pm

Who has to die in the United States before the great hope of humanity makes a comment denouncing the occurring and calls to violence against the American Jewish community?

354 CIA Reject  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:13:33pm

re: #282 shiek al beif salami

On flights from the middle east, I was always amazed at how few of the abayehs that walked onto a plane ever walked off in Europe. And the cart full of miniatures was usually depleted by flight's end.

I wonder if Fadh's 747 has a "I Heart Islam" sticker on the back bumper? And I also wonder if he still has to drive his '06 747 because of the collapse of oil prices?

Another friend of mine says the only thing that will pacify the middle east is if we can supply every Arab household with air conditioning, cable TV, and Budweiser. I think he may be on to something....

355 Taqiyyotomist  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:13:41pm

re: #321 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Restore the Caliphate! Then give the Caliphate 1 seat in the UN and tell the rest to GTFO. Fuck their majority.

Amen. I've been thinking that for years. The OIC is what, 53?, 57 nations? 57 seats at the UN. That's BS. They should have one.

The other bonus to an Official re-establishment of The Caliphate? We can Officially declare war upon it. Therefore, it will never happen.

356 Killian Bundy  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:14:01pm

re: #345 pre-Boomer Marine brat

I saw the IDF fellows laying out a couple of belts on the floor.

/those are .50 cal rounds

357 wiffersnapper  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:14:02pm

I thought mosques were used for Islam, the religion of peace, not pieces!

358 [deleted]  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:14:04pm
359 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:14:11pm

I may have fixed something on my spell checker. Is the spell check in LGF or in MY computer? Obama is my President Elect. May I say Oy?

360 Killgore Trout  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:14:38pm

Man escapes stoning, awaits second attempt......

Men stoned to death for adultery in Iran


Officials say two men in Iran have been stoned to death for adultery and murder, while another escaped death only by digging his way out of the hole where he was buried to face a similar fate, according to media reports.

The sentences follow sharp criticism by human rights groups of Iran's use of such punishments.

Judiciary spokesman Alireza Jamshidi Tuesday told reporters about the stonings, which took place in the northeastern city of Mashhad about 20 days ago, the reports said.

According to the Mashhad prosecutor, the men had committed various crimes, including adultery and murder, Jamshidi said.

In the practice, the men are buried up to their chests and people pelt them with stones until they die.

A third was supposed to have been stoned to death, however he went free by climbing out of the stone hole. He still awaits punishment.

361 LGoPs  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:14:41pm

re: #311 CIA Reject

Yup! And that's another thing that annoys me about islam- "religions" that reduce the relationship between G*d and man to some kind of "gotcha" game are really irritating...

I saw enough hypocricy over there to fill me for a lifetime. And I won't get holier than thou about it because I'm a pretty poor Catholic myself, but......I don't insist that you follow my religion or I'll cut your head off either. And that makes all the difference......

362 baconeatingkaffir  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:15:12pm

re: #343 mean Gene

Promise them that and stand back to watch the carnage as they fight for who gets to be the Caliph!
That'll keep 'em busy for a couple of generations at least!

Naah we shoudl givem all lifetime subscriptions to hustler and playboy. That'll keep em busy. My brother was tellng me that during his last tour in Iraq 2 year ago they were using some baathist guy's abandoned apartment for an Observation Post and as curious GIs do.. they nosed through all his stuff and found the whole Ron Jeremy collection on dvd. He said it made for an interesting 2 days.

363 bloodnok  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:15:28pm

re: #359 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I may have fixed something on my spell checker. Is the spell check in LGF or in MY computer? Obama is my President Elect. May I say Oy?

Drugs are bad mmkay?

364 CIA Reject  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:15:43pm

re: #302 Son of the Black Dog

Too little headspace will result in a failure to fire and/or feed the next round. Too much headspace (a lot too much) could give you a case rupture, although more likely you'd get a failure to fire because the bolt wouldn't seat.

Can you adjust headspace on the M-2?

365 lifeofthemind  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:15:46pm

Picturing clueless MSM effort to find a story that excuses weapons in Mosques.

Maybe it was being demilitarized, you know sanctified as a symbol of the struggle, like a knights sword hanging on the wall or on his tomb in a cathedral, sure that works

366 Taqiyyotomist  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:15:48pm

re: #326 Outrider

according to the photos Zombie took, all that went away. They were finally using the word Jew, as well as Zionist. Lots of anti-Jewish sentiment in those photos.

I saw a sign at another site (in the links, from a protest) which said "Upgrade to Holocaust 2.0" These people need imprisonment.

367 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:15:49pm

Obama is my President Elect. May I say Oy?

Well I'll be danged. The spell check is in my computer. Got tired of seeing Obama underlined every time I typed his name. Yay!

368 lawhawk  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:15:50pm

re: #360 Killgore Trout

Under Islamic law, if you escape a stoning, you are considered free and not subject to another stoning for that crime. They're progressive, you see. /snicker

369 beblebrox  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:16:09pm

Something burning big time on te Gazacam.

370 [deleted]  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:16:11pm
371 shiek al beif salami  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:16:17pm

re: #360 Killgore Trout

Stone hole?

372 sattv4u2  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:16:33pm

Palastines New Battle Cry

A Cannon In Every Mosque and a Rooster For Every LiveLink

373 bloodnok  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:16:39pm

re: #367 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Obama is my President Elect. May I say Oy?

Well I'll be danged. The spell check is in my computer. Got tired of seeing Obama underlined every time I typed his name. Yay!

Ah, I see.

374 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:16:45pm

re: #368 lawhawk

Under Islamic law, if you escape a stoning, you are considered free and not subject to another stoning for that crime. They're progressive, you see. /snicker

Double Jihady?

375 doppelganglander  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:17:04pm

re: #354 CIA Reject

Another friend of mine says the only thing that will pacify the middle east is if we can supply every Arab household with air conditioning, cable TV, and Budweiser. I think he may be on to something....

I concur, but I think they deserve something better than Bud.

/Beer thread!

376 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:17:28pm

My intuition says the IDF just might be going on the low side with their Hamas kill-count -- especially with the IAF strikes.

If I was a fly-on-the-cosmic-wall, I wouldn't be surprised to see twice the number that the IDF is claiming.

/I hope I'm not projecting my desires

377 Desert Dog  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:17:31pm

re: #368 lawhawk

Under Islamic law, if you escape a stoning, you are considered free and not subject to another stoning for that crime. They're progressive, you see. /snicker

Yes, they just stone the guy that brought the stones to the stoning

378 [deleted]  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:17:37pm
379 CIA Reject  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:18:26pm

re: #361 LGoPs

I saw enough hypocricy over there to fill me for a lifetime. And I won't get holier than thou about it because I'm a pretty poor Catholic myself, but......I don't insist that you follow my religion or I'll cut your head off either. And that makes all the difference......

Amen!

380 sattv4u2  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:18:51pm

re: #378 buzzsawmonkey

The Gazacam doesn't have just one rooster. There are many roosters.

Who has the rooster roster?

Roger the Dodger Runs the Rooster Roster

381 bloodnok  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:19:11pm

re: #378 buzzsawmonkey

The Gazacam doesn't have just one rooster. There are many roosters.

Who has the rooster roster?

Roscoe has it at his rostrum.

382 [deleted]  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:19:25pm
383 bloodnok  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:20:17pm

re: #380 sattv4u2

Roger the Dodger Runs the Rooster Roster

Sounds like Bill Cosby.

384 mjwsatx  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:20:28pm

I think this video pretty much puts to rest the canard that the religious wing of Hamas is separate from the military wing. In Hamasastan all wings fly together.

385 yma o hyd  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:20:41pm

re: #347 Guanxi88

Is that the one with the spiky helmet?

And the full-on stiletto boots ...

386 lawhawk  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:20:48pm

re: #367 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Obama is my President Elect. May I say Oy?

Well I'll be danged. The spell check is in my computer. Got tired of seeing Obama underlined every time I typed his name. Yay!

You could always join the LoyalOppositionTM, formed November 5, 2008, and remaining in effect until Obama is out of office. Country first.

387 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:20:49pm

re: #373 bloodnok

Did you know that? I didn't know that.

388 lifeofthemind  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:21:17pm

Looking at that webcam I know that the Hamas supporters look forward to the night that it is pointing North and that glow on the horizon will be Tel Aviv under nuclear attack.. An image just like this may be what we see.

389 CapeCoddah  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:21:18pm

re: #327 Ayatollah Ghilmeini

corrected linky

Well, thanks, that is one of five shots. I always have a nasty time with those link things, any ideas on how to get the other four up there, I am not sure how else to do it?

390 CIA Reject  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:21:21pm

re: #375 doppelganglander

I concur, but I think they deserve something better than Bud.

/Beer thread!

Not on my dime they don't! If my tax dollars are gonna keep anybody in Hacker or Warsteiner it's gonna be me! :-)

391 Kenneth  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:21:36pm

re: #376 pre-Boomer Marine brat

The astonishing thing is how few people have been killed. After 18 days of fighting, and only 1000 killed? If the Israelis really did intend on "wiping out the Palestinians" as Abbas claimed, they're doing a piss poor job of it.

392 bloodnok  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:21:39pm

re: #383 bloodnok

Sounds like Bill Cosby.


393 bloodnok  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:22:01pm

re: #387 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Did you know that? I didn't know that.

I always thought it was a LGF thang.

394 alegrias  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:22:01pm

re: #365 lifeofthemind

Picturing clueless MSM effort to find a story that excuses weapons in Mosques.

Maybe it was being demilitarized, you know sanctified as a symbol of the struggle, like a knights sword hanging on the wall or on his tomb in a cathedral, sure that works

* * * *
Yes, NPR's Garrison Keillor will use the old protestant hymn "A Mighty Fortress" to excuse Hamas' war crime of weapons storage in religious buildings.

395 [deleted]  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:22:37pm
396 shiek al beif salami  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:22:47pm

re: #375 doppelganglander

The only sure way to pacify the Middle East is with goats, lots of goats.

Otherwise, they'll lose that lovin' feeling.

397 Taqiyyotomist  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:22:55pm

Anyone ever seen a progressive cable TV channel called "Free Speech TV"?

It's a marxist production, the anchors look like they're on quayludes, and each and every story is so far to the left it makes MSNBC look like a bastion of conservatism and rationality.

The funniest thing a friend and I noticed about the "news" station, was the "crawl" at the bottom of the screen, how un-freakin-believably S-L-O-W it goes. Moonbats have reading problems? You should see it...it's about 1/4 the speed of the CNN or FOX ticker. Maybe slower.

398 Kenneth  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:23:17pm

Which reminds me, has anybody checked what's in the basement at the Little Mosque on the Prairie?

399 scottishbuzzsaw  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:23:20pm

re: #389 CapeCoddah

Well, thanks, that is one of five shots. I always have a nasty time with those link things, any ideas on how to get the other four up there, I am not sure how else to do it?

You can scroll through the rest, upper right at link...very cute lion cub, by the way.

400 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:23:22pm

re: #393 bloodnok

Me too. Now I can go and add somethings to my dictionary that it checks every time. Like showc & href for replies, etc.

401 [deleted]  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:23:35pm
402 lifeofthemind  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:23:48pm

Who is in charge of the barbeque sauce for all those roosters, they will need some one to take charge of basting them but Hamas should be full of skilled specialists for that work.

403 Peacekeeper  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:24:00pm

Gives a new meaning to the term: "canon law".

404 LGoPs  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:24:27pm

re: #396 shiek al beif salami

The only sure way to pacify the Middle East is with goats, lots of goats.

Otherwise, they'll lose that lovin' feeling.

Be careful, You might be goating them into more violence....

405 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:24:42pm

re: #391 Kenneth

The astonishing thing is how few people have been killed.

Yes!

406 Guanxi88  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:24:56pm

All right, on the Gaza cam - is that thing on a loop, is there some sort of big-ass flare on the ground, or did one of the innumerable piles of refuse that litter every Arab city catch fire?

407 bloodnok  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:25:14pm

Jeremiah Wright was once a very prolific rooster.

408 CIA Reject  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:25:16pm

re: #395 Iron Fist

Yeah, I guess the Obamessiahh qualifies as a Marxist, but at the same time, he is religious, which is a big no-no to Marxists. It's kind of hard to worship yourself as a god and still claim to be an atheist. We've got, what, seven more days? Then four long years. I couldn't be dreading it much more if I were facing lockup in a super-max hell-hole.

After next week those folks may be a lot safer than those who work in NYC or DC.

409 lifeofthemind  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:25:52pm

re: #401 buzzsawmonkey

A Mighty Fortran is Our Code.

Fortran left me feeling weak, like I had a Code in de Dose.

410 LGoPs  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:25:52pm

re: #397 Taqiyyotomist

Anyone ever seen a progressive cable TV channel called "Free Speech TV"?

It's a marxist production, the anchors look like they're on quayludes, and each and every story is so far to the left it makes MSNBC look like a bastion of conservatism and rationality.

The funniest thing a friend and I noticed about the "news" station, was the "crawl" at the bottom of the screen, how un-freakin-believably S-L-O-W it goes. Moonbats have reading problems? You should see it...it's about 1/4 the speed of the CNN or FOX ticker. Maybe slower.

That's 'cause "Libtards are Illiterate".......

411 alegrias  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:26:10pm

re: #406 Guanxi88

All right, on the Gaza cam - is that thing on a loop, is there some sort of big-ass flare on the ground, or did one of the innumerable piles of refuse that litter every Arab city catch fire?

* * *
Yes, garbage collection might as well be advanced rocket science!

412 Ben Hur  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:26:12pm

re: #8 Dizzy

Sorry if this has been posted before. It is a literal human shield. Video at Elder of Ziyon.

IDF, most awesome!

I'm pretty sure that's not from this military campaign.

413 CapeCoddah  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:26:13pm

re: #399 scottishbuzzsaw

You can scroll through the rest, upper right at link...very cute lion cub, by the way.

Ah, so you can! thanks a million, I hate putting those things together, they never work properly for me!

415 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:26:27pm

re: #401 buzzsawmonkey

A Mighty Fortran is Our Code.

I C you're back at it.
How long did it take you to cobol that one together?

416 MandyManners  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:26:35pm

For some reason, this movie's been bouncing around my brain this afternoon.


417 DeafDog  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:26:36pm

re: #395 Iron Fist

Yeah, I guess the Obamessiahh qualifies as a Marxist, but at the same time, he is religious, which is a big no-no to Marxists. It's kind of hard to worship yourself as a god and still claim to be an atheist. We've got, what, seven more days? Then four long years. I couldn't be dreading it much more if I were facing lockup in a super-max hell-hole.

My TV is smart. When Obama comes on - the channel gets changed.

418 [deleted]  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:26:48pm
419 Son of the Black Dog  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:27:03pm

re: #364 CIA Reject

Can you adjust headspace on the M-2?

Yeah, there's supposed to be a gauge that comes with the receiver, held on by a metal chain. When changing barrels, you screw the fresh barrel up to where it touches the gauge, then back off to the next detente. A WWII/Korea infantry vet taught me how to set it without the gauge, if you really needed to.

Note to all: my experience with the .50 is now more than 40 years old.

420 Kragar  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:27:06pm

re: #406 Guanxi88

All right, on the Gaza cam - is that thing on a loop, is there some sort of big-ass flare on the ground, or did one of the innumerable piles of refuse that litter every Arab city catch fire?

By setting their buildings on fire, Hamas hopes to foil Israeli night vision equipment and prevent the IAF from bombing those buildings.

DOH!

421 DaddyG  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:27:24pm

re: #402 lifeofthemind

Who is in charge of the barbeque sauce for all those roosters, they will need some one to take charge of basting them but Hamas should be full of skilled specialists for that work.

Basting not blasting.

422 Texas Heathen  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:27:31pm

re: #352 bloodnok

Please pay attention to the giant clock. Do what it says.

Whoa. I read that a little differently (another word for rooster)

423 shiek al beif salami  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:27:32pm

re: #404 LGoPs

Now I'm thinking chains, whips, leather, Yassir's brother Nossir, and a goat.

Is this what is known as the Middle East piece process?

424 yma o hyd  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:27:40pm

re: #376 pre-Boomer Marine brat

My intuition says the IDF just might be going on the low side with their Hamas kill-count -- especially with the IAF strikes.

If I was a fly-on-the-cosmic-wall, I wouldn't be surprised to see twice the number that the IDF is claiming.

/I hope I'm not projecting my desires

I'm thinking to meself that this latest increase in boots-on-the-ground (reservists) might mean that the special forces are now in with a good chance of success. Thus we'll have a lowish count for the time being because the IDF can't claim these dead hamassholes as due to airstrikes.
But I'm sure there's some fierce silent taking-out of them thugs going on right now.

425 Peacekeeper  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:27:40pm

Ask the Imam special Gaza edition

Dear Imam:
By Mohammed most holy! Jewish soldiers have entered our mosque and touched sacred armaments with their filthy hands. Is it allowed to fight with these weapons after the UN gives them back to us?

426 CIA Reject  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:27:56pm

re: #401 buzzsawmonkey

A Mighty Fortran is Our Code.

AHHHH! you're givin' me flashbacks man!

427 Render  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:28:00pm

Russian KPV/ZPU-1 14.5mm heavy machine gun. Technically not a cannon, as it doesn't fire explosive shells.

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

A leftover from long ago, but still very dangerous.

The North Vietnamese/VC used theirs expressly for hunting helicopters. In single and twin mounts they provided the backbone of the Soviet era light AAA, until replaced by the 23mm. Even after being "replaced" they are still in use all over the world. Very common in various African conflicts. Well noted for their range and hitting power.

Several nations still make ammo for them, including Egypt and China.

This one looks kinda like it was modified from a late 40's ground mount, removed from an older BRDM/BTR-70 turret, or pulled from a ZPU-2 or ZPU-4 mounting. The mount it's on is not standard, and although the wheels are present, the standard AA gun sight is missing.

Hey, if you don't actually aim your guns when you fire them, who needs a gun sight?

The round breach, conical flash hider, and 40 round belts are the key identifiers here.

IVAN'S
HAMMER,
R

428 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:28:06pm

Ground ops going on over yonder?
Don't know why else a parachute flare would be dropped.

429 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:28:12pm

re: #395 Iron Fist

Yeah, I guess the Obamessiahh qualifies as a Marxist, but at the same time, he is religious, which is a big no-no to Marxists. It's kind of hard to worship yourself as a god and still claim to be an atheist. We've got, what, seven more days? Then four long years. I couldn't be dreading it much more if I were facing lockup in a super-max hell-hole.

He's only religious as far as it helped his street cred.

430 alegrias  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:28:23pm

re: #414 Kenneth

61 former detainees from its military prison at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, appear to have returned to terrorism since their release from custody.

* * *
Coming Soon to Broadway or Near You!

They want to be in America,
Everything's free in America

431 mean Gene  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:28:28pm

Was that one of those apartment buildings we saw last night on Gazacam?

432 LGoPs  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:28:32pm

re: #419 Son of the Black Dog

Yeah, there's supposed to be a gauge that comes with the receiver, held on by a metal chain. When changing barrels, you screw the fresh barrel up to where it touches the gauge, then back off to the next detente. A WWII/Korea infantry vet taught me how to set it without the gauge, if you really needed to.

Note to all: my experience with the .50 is now more than 40 years old.

Mine's about 20 years old but you are correct.....

433 WriterMom  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:28:34pm

re: #425 Peacekeeper

Heh.

434 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:28:48pm
436 doppelganglander  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:29:09pm

re: #390 CIA Reject

Not on my dime they don't! If my tax dollars are gonna keep anybody in Hacker or Warsteiner it's gonna be me! :-)

I wasn't going to go that far. I just think we might get better results with, say, Sam Adams.

437 lifeofthemind  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:29:13pm

re: #421 DaddyG

Basting not blasting.

They need a Boss Baster

438 sattv4u2  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:29:15pm

re: #397 Taqiyyotomist

Anyone ever seen a progressive cable TV channel called "Free Speech TV"?

It's a marxist production, the anchors look like they're on quayludes, and each and every story is so far to the left it makes MSNBC look like a bastion of conservatism and rationality.

The funniest thing a friend and I noticed about the "news" station, was the "crawl" at the bottom of the screen, how un-freakin-believably S-L-O-W it goes. Moonbats have reading problems? You should see it...it's about 1/4 the speed of the CNN or FOX ticker. Maybe slower.

You've gottren ot wrong. It's not that the veiwers are slow readers, it's that those at the TV station are slow thinkers and typists!@

439 Taqiyyotomist  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:29:21pm

re: #410 LGoPs
Well, I did think, maybe it's that slow because a lot of non-English-speaking people watch it. Then I thought, no...non-US moonbats can probably speak and read English better than our domestic variety. Nope, my first instinct was right, I'll bet my last quatloo. FSTV was inundated with calls and emails from frustrated Paulians and moonbats, telling them to slow down the crawl.

440 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:29:30pm

re: #419 Son of the Black Dog

Yeah, there's supposed to be a gauge that comes with the receiver, held on by a metal chain. When changing barrels, you screw the fresh barrel up to where it touches the gauge, then back off to the next detente. A WWII/Korea infantry vet taught me how to set it without the gauge, if you really needed to.

Note to all: my experience with the .50 is now more than 40 years old.

They still work the same way, same gun.

/they don't make 'em like that anymore... B-52 and M1911 neither...

441 mattm  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:29:44pm

So that's what my church is missing.

/sarc

I'm sure the MSM will cover this.

442 Guanxi88  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:29:45pm

re: #437 lifeofthemind

They need a Boss Baster

Well, I think there's bound to be at least one Master Baster in their ranks, no?

443 Texas Heathen  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:30:04pm

re: #414 Kenneth

big F*cking surprise there.

444 sattv4u2  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:30:09pm

re: #437 lifeofthemind

They need a Boss Baster

I think Billy Mays sells one!

445 [deleted]  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:30:18pm
446 yma o hyd  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:30:24pm

re: #388 lifeofthemind

Looking at that webcam I know that the Hamas supporters look forward to the night that it is pointing North and that glow on the horizon will be Tel Aviv under nuclear attack.. An image just like this may be what we see.

If thats what they wish for - God forbid it ever happening! - then they'll pay for their wish, in the highest currency.
Of that I am certain, should it happen.

447 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:30:27pm

re: #409 lifeofthemind

Fortran left me feeling weak, like I had a Code in de Dose.

I C this pun thread will SNOBOL.

448 alegrias  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:30:37pm

re: #441 mattm

So that's what my church is missing.

/sarc

I'm sure the MSM will cover this.

* * *
You know how empty the average "Fellowship Hall" is!

449 shiek al beif salami  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:30:48pm

re: #438 sattv4u2

Or the alternative energy they broadcast (narrowcast?) with is slow.

450 bulwrk  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:30:50pm

re: #397 Taqiyyotomist

The funniest thing a friend and I noticed about the "news" station, was the "crawl" at the bottom of the screen, how un-freakin-believably S-L-O-W it goes. Moonbats have reading problems? You should see it...it's about 1/4 the speed of the CNN or FOX ticker. Maybe slower.

Look at their target audience when stoned it appears to scroll at normal speed

451 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:31:00pm

re: #416 MandyManners

I'm thinking about the one with the bomb at the altar....

Beneath the Planet of the Apes

452 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:31:16pm

A jet, I betcha, and fairly close by.

453 lifeofthemind  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:31:37pm

I swear pulling that little juvenilia out of everyone was like pulling teeth, I work for my dings.

454 Son of the Black Dog  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:31:47pm

re: #398 Kenneth

Which reminds me, has anybody checked what's in the basement at the Little Mosque on the Prairie?

No, but the landing pattern for the Indianapolis airport goes directly over the biggest mosque in the state. Very low over.

455 CIA Reject  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:31:54pm

re: #419 Son of the Black Dog

Yeah, there's supposed to be a gauge that comes with the receiver, held on by a metal chain. When changing barrels, you screw the fresh barrel up to where it touches the gauge, then back off to the next detente. A WWII/Korea infantry vet taught me how to set it without the gauge, if you really needed to.

Note to all: my experience with the .50 is now more than 40 years old.

Cool! I didn't know you could do that, makes sense though- thanks!

456 Taqiyyotomist  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:31:54pm

re: #425 Peacekeeper

Ask the Imam special Gaza edition

Dear Imam:
By Mohammed most holy! Jewish soldiers have entered our mosque and touched sacred armaments with their filthy hands. Is it allowed to fight with these weapons after the UN gives them back to us?

Nominated for Comment of the Day. You should go to Ask the Imam and really post that question, and see if they answer. That's just perfect.

We really need a Comment of the Day.

457 Killian Bundy  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:32:29pm

re: #427 Render

Russian KPV/ZPU-1 14.5mm heavy machine gun.

That's not what's in the video.

/look at the size when the soldier's head is next to the barrel, more like 40mm

458 lifeofthemind  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:32:46pm

re: #446 yma o hyd

If thats what they wish for - God forbid it ever happening! - then they'll pay for their wish, in the highest currency.
Of that I am certain, should it happen.

It is hard to deter those who want to die

459 Marvo76  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:33:40pm

re: #414 Kenneth

61 former detainees from its military prison at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba, appear to have returned to terrorism since their release from custody.

I think we should return them to their home countries from about 20,000 feet, with one of them acme parachutes packed with an anvil.....

460 Leonidas Hoplite  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:33:42pm

re: #457 Killian Bundy

That's not what's in the video.

/look at the size when the soldier's head is next to the barrel, more like 40mm

Those aren't 40mm shells in the belt, though the ammo could be for another weapon

461 Texas Heathen  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:33:50pm

re: #437 lifeofthemind

They need a Boss Baster

or a master baster

462 Ford_Prefect  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:34:21pm
A Cannon in a Hamas Mosque

I don't know why everyone is pointing fingers at Hamas. Those weapons are clearly a plant by the infidel juice.

////

463 Texas Heathen  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:34:34pm

re: #442 Guanxi88

guanxi beat me to it. D'oh

464 baconeatingkaffir  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:34:42pm

re: #459 Marvo76

I think they could swim home or row home in a rubber dinghy. Its a long way to peshawar baby!

465 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:34:43pm

You know... if those pesky Juice didn't fly their jets inside mosques, they wouldn't need AA there.

Juice are tricky people. Skilled, too.

466 Guanxi88  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:34:44pm

re: #461 Texas Heathen

or a master baster

Please see my earlier:

re: #442 Guanxi88

Well, I think there's bound to be at least one Master Baster in their ranks, no?

467 thefallingman  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:35:04pm

Is this really a story? I remember that mosques were the jihadis favorite place to cache weapons back in Iraq. Usually we'd send Iraqi Army troops into mosques we knew had them and they'd come back out with truckfuls of munitions. Probably holy weapons.

On a tangent, I hope everybody knows that the word is pronounced "cash" and not "cash-ay" as so many people say it.

468 bulwrk  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:35:11pm

re: #457 Killian Bundy

The think it might be an old Russian 23mm,the ammo box sitting on the hopper tray is too small for 40mm.

469 CapeCoddah  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:35:15pm

re: #459 Marvo76

I think we should return them to their home countries from about 20,000 feet, with one of them acme parachutes packed with an anvil.....

Hold the chute, just the anvil

470 Guanxi88  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:35:20pm

re: #463 Texas Heathen

guanxi beat me to it. D'oh

Scary, are all us Lone Star Heathens so juvenile?

471 Killian Bundy  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:35:24pm

re: #460 Leonidas Hoplite

Those aren't 40mm shells in the belt, though the ammo could be for another weapon

/those are .50 cal rounds

472 Son of the Black Dog  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:35:27pm

re: #401 buzzsawmonkey

A Mighty Fortran is Our Code.

I'm afraid that most people on the web have no clue about FORTRAN, COBOL, or punchcards. (My spellcheck doesn't even recognize the word "punchcards".) How soon we forget where we came from.

473 CIA Reject  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:36:01pm

re: #436 doppelganglander

I wasn't going to go that far. I just think we might get better results with, say, Sam Adams.

OK, but only Boston Lager and THAT'S IT! :-)

474 yma o hyd  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:36:18pm

re: #452 pre-Boomer Marine brat

A jet, I betcha, and fairly close by.

I'm getting a different view now.
What I don't understand - why are thre so many lights on? I thought they had no electricity?

475 sattv4u2  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:36:18pm

re: #467 thefallingman

On a tangent, I hope everybody knows that the word is pronounced "cash" and not "cash-ay" as so many people say it.

Make sure you tell that to John "Jenjis Kahn" F'n Kerry!

476 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:36:27pm

re: #471 Killian Bundy

/those are .50 cal rounds

50 cal and 23 mm will look about the same...

477 CapeCoddah  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:36:44pm

re: #473 CIA Reject

OK, but only Boston Lager and THAT'S IT! :-)

No cherry wheat?

478 Taqiyyotomist  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:36:50pm

re: #450 bulwrk

The funniest thing a friend and I noticed about the "news" station, was the "crawl" at the bottom of the screen, how un-freakin-believably S-L-O-W it goes. Moonbats have reading problems? You should see it...it's about 1/4 the speed of the CNN or FOX ticker. Maybe slower.

Look at their target audience when stoned it appears to scroll at normal speed

Oh, I don't know about all that. We watched it while stoned. In fact, it is highly (no pun) recommended that you be on something if you watch that garbage. Not acid. FSTV would probably result in a really bad trip.

Seriously though, even stoned, we could only take about 10 minutes of that utter insanity (to be mild).

479 Ben Hur  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:36:57pm

re: #294 buzzsawmonkey

That's disgusting.

I agree.

Jews do not share European values.

European values have drowned Europe, Africa, etc in blood.

480 Killian Bundy  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:37:09pm

re: #468 bulwrk

The think it might be an old Russian 23mm,the ammo box sitting on the hopper tray is too small for 40mm.

/what ever it is, it's a relic piece of junk

481 sattv4u2  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:37:33pm

re: #474 yma o hyd

I'm getting a different view now.
What I don't understand - why are thre so many lights on? I thought they had no electricity?

I'll bet there are thousands of small generators around. Lots of the smoke I've seen looks like it could be coming from strikes on diesel reserves

482 LGoPs  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:37:51pm

"Mohammed, I told you to bring me a Canon: a regulation or dogma decreed by a church council b: a provision of canon law.......not a Cannon......you stupid head"......

483 Marvo76  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:37:52pm

re: #454 Son of the Black Dog

No, but the landing pattern for the Indianapolis airport goes directly over the biggest mosque in the state. Very low over.

I didn't know they had one that close, I thought the biggest one was down in Blomington...not far from IU

484 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:38:20pm

re: #481 sattv4u2

I'll bet there are thousands of small generators around. Lots of the smoke I've seen looks like it could be coming from strikes on diesel reserves

So much for the standard practice of dropping the electrical grid first...

485 redc1c4  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:38:22pm

re: #351 Outrider

California for you. Back in the mid 80s, we had an exercise in Texas that encompassed the entire state. III Corps went to the outer reaches on all four sides for a playing field and the civilians loved it.

There were convoys out on the far back roads as well as interstates. Many ranchers made land available for armor and mechanized operations. Choppers and aircraft were all over the skies.

well, one weekend we were going south to Camp Pendleton and some wise acre wrote "Next stop Nicaragua" on the last truck in the convoy......

everyone was wondering why we were getting all the strange looks. %-)

/5th Amendment

486 Desert Dog  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:38:40pm

re: #480 Killian Bundy

/what ever it is, it's a relic piece of junk

I agree, and that machine gun in that mosque is pretty junky too

487 jaunte  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:38:40pm

There's a drawing in the video of some hands chained (to the al Aqsa mosque?). Does anyone here know what that's supposed to represent?

488 Outrider  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:38:42pm

re: #366 Taqiyyotomist

I saw a sign at another site (in the links, from a protest) which said "Upgrade to Holocaust 2.0" These people need imprisonment.

their cloak of using euphemisms has been yanked off and they are revealed for he anti-Jewish crowd we have always known they are.

Same with the leftists and their agenda of destroying the traditional family life, that too has come into the open.

Now what has happened in the last few months that would cause these people to reveal their true feelings? ;-)>

489 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:38:45pm

re: #472 Son of the Black Dog

I'm afraid that most people on the web have no clue about FORTRAN, COBOL, or punchcards. (My spellcheck doesn't even recognize the word "punchcards".) How soon we forget where we came from.

And when most people watch a movie like "Run Silent, Run Deep", and see a officer spinning wheels on some big thing with lots of dials, do they have a clue as to what that was?

490 Tardis  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:39:03pm

re: #376 pre-Boomer Marine brat

My intuition says the IDF just might be going on the low side with their Hamas kill-count -- especially with the IAF strikes.

If I was a fly-on-the-cosmic-wall, I wouldn't be surprised to see twice the number that the IDF is claiming.

/I hope I'm not projecting my desires

They may only be counting those that are confirmed either with eyes on the ground, or through a drone camera. Others in a vehicle or building or spider hole were not visualized and so not included.

491 redc1c4  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:39:11pm

re: #457 Killian Bundy

That's not what's in the video.

/look at the size when the soldier's head is next to the barrel, more like 40mm

IIRC, they can come with a water jacket..... i agree with Render.

14.5MM

492 sattv4u2  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:39:41pm

re: #484 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

So much for the standard practice of dropping the electrical grid first...

I wouldn't abandon that practice. It eliminates electricity to the majority. From the night scenes I've seen 'lectricity looks spotty, at best, indicating generators

493 yma o hyd  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:39:46pm

re: #481 sattv4u2

I'll bet there are thousands of small generators around. Lots of the smoke I've seen looks like it could be coming from strikes on diesel reserves

Good one - that hadn't occurred to me ...

494 Peacekeeper  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:39:57pm

Al Jazeera interview:

Q; Have you always been devoted to the struggle?

A: By the beard of the prophet yes! I remember as a small boy we would go down to the mosque basement to get away from the heat. There we would play with the stacks of rifles and rockets. Sometimes I would sit in the gunner's chair and spin the cannon around like that western whore June Fonda....

495 redc1c4  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:40:09pm

re: #480 Killian Bundy

/what ever it is, it's a relic piece of junk

since it's russian, i'll bet you it'd w*rk if you cleaned it up.

496 Guanxi88  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:40:29pm

re: #490 Tardis

Others in a vehicle or building or spider hole were not visualized and so not included.

Is that what those "visualize world peace" stickers on Volvos and Subaru's are talking about?

497 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:40:39pm

re: #490 Tardis

That's precisely what I'm thinking.

498 doppelganglander  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:40:40pm

re: #473 CIA Reject

OK, but only Boston Lager and THAT'S IT! :-)

Deal. Let's schedule a meeting of the Beer for Burkhas Committee so we can sample the donations before we ship them over. All are welcome.

499 so.cal.swede  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:40:43pm

40mm Pipe Organ, Made by Bofors.

500 sattv4u2  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:40:44pm

re: #487 jaunte

There's a drawing in the video of some hands chained (to the al Aqsa mosque?). Does anyone here know what that's supposed to represent?

GUESS ,,, the Zionists holding the Palis hostage in their own land!

501 Leonidas Hoplite  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:41:01pm

re: #489 pre-Boomer Marine brat

And when most people watch a movie like "Run Silent, Run Deep", and see a officer spinning wheels on some big thing with lots of dials, do they have a clue as to what that was?

Isn't that a range-finding computer? Think I saw one on the fleet boat at Pearly Harbor. Something similar in the main turrets in the Massachusetts and New Jersey.

502 [deleted]  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:41:05pm
503 funky chicken  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:41:08pm
504 Marvo76  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:41:15pm

re: #472 Son of the Black Dog

I'm afraid that most people on the web have no clue about FORTRAN, COBOL, or punchcards. (My spellcheck doesn't even recognize the word "punchcards".) How soon we forget where we came from.


LOL I can remember Mom made a wreath for Christmas one year out of old punchcards, the thing was actually quite pretty...

505 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:41:19pm

re: #492 sattv4u2

I wouldn't abandon that practice. It eliminates electricity to the majority. From the night scenes I've seen 'lectricity looks spotty, at best, indicating generators

Oh, I wasn't advocating dropping the SOP... only disliking the idea that the perps have glommed onto a workaround.

That pisses me off.

506 Nevergiveup  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:41:32pm

22:20 Italy Jews: Pope Benedict`s recent remarks negate 50 years of interfaith progress

Anybody know what the Pope said?

507 scottishbuzzsaw  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:41:43pm

re: #477 CapeCoddah

No cherry wheat?

Make mine Cream Stout...

508 Tardis  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:41:45pm

re: #409 lifeofthemind

Fortran left me feeling weak, like I had a Code in de Dose.

A Hex on you.

509 Taqiyyotomist  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:42:03pm

re: #489 pre-Boomer Marine brat

And when most people watch a movie like "Run Silent, Run Deep", and see a officer spinning wheels on some big thing with lots of dials, do they have a clue as to what that was?

Hey, I cranked up a Victrola today. Sounded really nice, although the records were pretty scratchy. First time I'd ever heard one.

510 Tigger2005  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:42:06pm

re: #40 Taqiyyotomist

All this is only "amazing" if you think the Devil does not exist.

Huh?

511 Marvo76  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:42:06pm

re: #479 Ben Hur

I agree.

Jews do not share European values.

European values have drowned Europe, Africa, etc in blood.

Europeans have values? who'da thunk it?

////

512 lifeofthemind  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:42:27pm

Poor gaza roosters. How can they get any sleep with big glowing fires and things going whump all night? PETA will get right on this.

513 alegrias  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:42:31pm

re: #467 thefallingman

Is this really a story? I remember that mosques were the jihadis favorite place to cache weapons back in Iraq. Usually we'd send Iraqi Army troops into mosques we knew had them and they'd come back out with truckfuls of munitions. Probably holy weapons.

On a tangent, I hope everybody knows that the word is pronounced "cash" and not "cash-ay" as so many people say it.

* * *
Thanks for your service.

Just knowing American troops' experiences in Iraq are similar to the IDF's against Hamas' tactics is comforting.

Hamas' tricks are so busted.

514 Guanxi88  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:42:35pm

re: #495 redc1c4

since it's russian, i'll bet you it'd w*rk if you cleaned it up.

True that, just look at those crappy mosin-nagants - they still shoot, even after being issued to Soviets.

515 Outrider  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:42:40pm

re: #485 redc1c4

well, one weekend we were going south to Camp Pendleton and some wise acre wrote "Next stop Nicaragua" on the last truck in the convoy......

everyone was wondering why we were getting all the strange looks. %-)

/5th Amendment

did you get Down South?

516 sattv4u2  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:42:54pm

re: #506 Nevergiveup

22:20 Italy Jews: Pope Benedict`s recent remarks negate 50 years of interfaith progress

Anybody know what the Pope said?

"MazelTof" ?

517 so.cal.swede  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:43:29pm

re: #506 Nevergiveup

22:20 Italy Jews: Pope Benedict`s recent remarks negate 50 years of interfaith progress

Anybody know what the Pope said?

probably something along the lines of "The Muslim spiritual leadership should open their arms to a wider dialogue between religious leaders".

how dare he?

/

518 CIA Reject  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:43:38pm

re: #472 Son of the Black Dog

I'm afraid that most people on the web have no clue about FORTRAN, COBOL, or punchcards. (My spellcheck doesn't even recognize the word "punchcards".) How soon we forget where we came from.

I used to interview applicants for jobs that required "low level" programming knowledge. As a test I kept a plastic write ring from a 9 track tape in my desk drawer. If I was relatively sure an applicant knew his stuff, but wanted to make sure, I'd drop it on the desk and ask "what's that?"

All of the old-timers knew immediately, the youngsters not so much...

519 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:44:14pm

There's our friend!

520 Killian Bundy  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:44:15pm

re: #495 redc1c4

since it's russian, i'll bet you it'd w*rk if you cleaned it up.

/it'd be suicide to try and fire something like that at Israeli aircraft

521 Son of the Black Dog  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:44:15pm

re: #432 LGoPs

Mine's about 20 years old but you are correct.....

re: #440 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

They still work the same way, same gun.

/they don't make 'em like that anymore... B-52 and M1911 neither...

The other night I pointed out a .50 on the TV. My wife couldn't believe that they predate WWII.

522 uncc_compman  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:44:22pm

re: #512 lifeofthemind

Poor gaza roosters. How can they get any sleep with big glowing fires and things going whump all night? PETA will get right on this.

Speaking of PETA, we can't call fish "fish" anymore, they are sea kittens.

523 yma o hyd  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:44:37pm

re: #512 lifeofthemind

Poor gaza roosters. How can they get any sleep with big glowing fires and things going whump all night? PETA will get right on this.

Heh - he's just called!

524 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:44:42pm

re: #520 Killian Bundy

/it'd be suicide to try and fire something like that at Israeli aircraft

Right up their ally, then!

525 Green Helmet Guy  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:44:43pm

It was their Madfaa Ramadan (Ramadan cannon), you know the one that they fire to end the fast...Duh!
/

526 alegrias  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:44:44pm

re: #482 LGoPs

"Mohammed, I told you to bring me a Canon: a regulation or dogma decreed by a church council b: a provision of canon law.......not a Cannon......you stupid head"......

* * *
They do have a canonically obligatory state of war against we infidels.

527 lifeofthemind  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:44:52pm

re: #504 Marvo76

LOL I can remember Mom made a wreath for Christmas one year out of old punchcards, the thing was actually quite pretty...

A third of a century ago I worked with thousands of punch cards, running data sets through an AMDAHL under MVS-XA

528 Render  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:45:02pm

re: #457 Killian Bundy

[Link: www.fas.org...]

Image: kpv_02.jpg

Note the round breach in the second link.

===

Got WaW yet? I have my MG-42 back...

WELL
FEARED,
R

529 sattv4u2  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:45:06pm

re: #522 uncc_compman

Speaking of PETA, we can't call fish "fish" anymore, they are sea kittens.

But can I still say "It tastes just like fish"?

530 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:45:23pm

re: #521 Son of the Black Dog

The other night I pointed out a .50 on the TV. My wife couldn't believe that they predate WWII.

WW1, too, right... as in M1902?

531 Taqiyyotomist  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:45:33pm

re: #510 Tigger2005

Huh?

This comes as no surprise at all to those who know who the spirit behind it all is. The greatest deceptions the world has ever known: Islam is peaceful, Israel is Nazilike, the Globe is Warming and its all Your Fault, Communism is Good. All have one architect, and he's convinced a large portion of the world he doesn't exist.

532 Outrider  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:45:34pm

re: #504 Marvo76

LOL I can remember Mom made a wreath for Christmas one year out of old punchcards, the thing was actually quite pretty...

hey, I remember them wreaths. Ma made a couple of them too. And they did look pretty good when done.

533 Silhouette  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:46:04pm

re: #504 Marvo76

LOL I can remember Mom made a wreath for Christmas one year out of old punchcards, the thing was actually quite pretty...

We made hundreds of those for the PTA one year. My dad was president and I remember the garage full of punchcards, and we'd all work on them. Staple, staple, staple. I remember they were bingo prizes.

It reminds me of the people who use CDs as decoration, such as hanging from a rearview mirror. I went to a Cherokee festival, and a couple of the young lads had CDs woven into their dance costumes. I'd never noticed that CDs have their own beauty.

534 Dustyvet  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:46:13pm

re: #18 pre-Boomer Marine brat

The thing looks ancient.
Do the Palis not know about oiling their weapons?

Hamas was not paying attention in weapons class...oil, oil, oil...Twits!

PVT ACHMED CLEAN THAT WEAPON!

535 CIA Reject  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:46:22pm

re: #477 CapeCoddah

No cherry wheat?


....mmmmmm Cherry Wheat.........

*SNAP* Ah, no, no fancy stuff! Not on the taxpayers anyway. Maybe they can con it out of the UN.

536 Bob Dillon  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:46:30pm

re: #518 CIA Reject

I used to interview applicants for jobs that required "low level" programming knowledge. As a test I kept a plastic write ring from a 9 track tape in my desk drawer. If I was relatively sure an applicant knew his stuff, but wanted to make sure, I'd drop it on the desk and ask "what's that?"

All of the old-timers knew immediately, the youngsters not so much...

That is wickedly funny.

537 LGoPs  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:46:32pm

re: #521 Son of the Black Dog

The other night I pointed out a .50 on the TV. My wife couldn't believe that they predate WWII.

Heck, 1911's predate WWII by about 30 years. And I carried one as my sidearm until the late 80's, early 90's. Good weapon and sorry the Army went to Baretta's...

538 so.cal.swede  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:46:41pm

re: #529 sattv4u2

But can I still say "It tastes just like fish"?

"tastes like kittens"?

539 [deleted]  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:46:47pm
540 Marvo76  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:46:50pm

re: #522 uncc_compman

Speaking of PETA, we can't call fish "fish" anymore, they are sea kittens.

IN the words of B. Bunny, "what a buncha maroons"

541 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:46:54pm

re: #534 Dustyvet

Hamas was not paying attention in weapons class...oil, oil, oil...Twits!

PVT ACHMED CLEAN THAT WEAPON!

It's Russian. Prolly works better covered in rust and filth.

542 MandyManners  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:46:56pm

re: #506 Nevergiveup

22:20 Italy Jews: Pope Benedict`s recent remarks negate 50 years of interfaith progress

Anybody know what the Pope said?

Huh?

543 lifeofthemind  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:47:18pm

re: #530 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

WW1, too, right... as in M1902?

We have the Maxim gun and they have not

544 right_wing2  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:47:27pm

re: #336 Iron Fist

The .50 must be less than I was expecting. I was guessing something close to $10/round!

I've got a 9mm that I'll bring and the cash that I can afford to spend. It'll be more for the experience of being there than actually blowing holes in things. :)

545 Dustyvet  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:47:32pm

re: #534 Dustyvet

Hamas was not paying attention in weapons class...oil, oil, oil...Twits!

PVT ACHMED CLEAN THAT WEAPON!

"This my weapon, this is my gun"

546 LGoPs  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:47:34pm

re: #526 alegrias

* * *
They do have a canonically obligatory state of war against we infidels.

What's this we you speak of kemosabe.....?
:)

547 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:47:35pm

re: #489 pre-Boomer Marine brat

And when most people watch a movie like "Run Silent, Run Deep", and see a officer spinning wheels on some big thing with lots of dials, do they have a clue as to what that was?

TDC - torpedo data computer. Allowed the sub to calculate where the torpedo should go based on the bearings, angle on the bow, calculated speed of the target, etc., and communicated the gyro angle to the torpedo.

Somewhere on the web are or were the technical manuals for the Fleet Boats.

548 Vicious Babushka  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:47:46pm

re: #522 uncc_compman

Speaking of PETA, we can't call fish "fish" anymore, they are sea kittens.

So that would make cats what, cannibals?

549 CapeCoddah  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:47:55pm

re: #522 uncc_compman

Speaking of PETA, we can't call fish "fish" anymore, they are sea kittens.

They should go sleep with the fishes...I mean sea kittens

550 Silhouette  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:47:56pm

re: #512 lifeofthemind

Poor gaza roosters. How can they get any sleep with big glowing fires and things going whump all night? PETA will get right on this.

Look! It's dawn. (crow) Wait, there is sunrise again. (crow). And again. (crow)

Dark, light, dark, light. How's a poor fowl to get rest?

551 jaunte  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:48:39pm

re: #525 Green Helmet Guy

Now that's pretty funny:

One relates that the Ramadan cannon dates back to 859 AH (Hijri), when the ruler of Egypt was busy toying with his new cannon in the open courtyard atop the Citadel overlooking Cairo. The cannon went off accidentally and a loud boom reverberated everywhere. It was Ramadan at sunset.
552 kcladderman  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:48:56pm

re: #506 Nevergiveup

22:20 Italy Jews: Pope Benedict`s recent remarks negate 50 years of interfaith progress

Anybody know what the Pope said?

Read it here

553 Marvo76  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:49:17pm

re: #533 Silhouette

speaking of CD's I saw where someone was using them( old ones) to make a parabolic reflector for a solar water heater. Made sense to me...

554 Dustyvet  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:49:40pm

re: #545 Dustyvet

"This my weapon, this is my gun"

555 Outrider  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:49:47pm

re: #533 Silhouette

We made hundreds of those for the PTA one year. My dad was president and I remember the garage full of punchcards, and we'd all work on them. Staple, staple, staple. I remember they were bingo prizes.

It reminds me of the people who use CDs as decoration, such as hanging from a rearview mirror. I went to a Cherokee festival, and a couple of the young lads had CDs woven into their dance costumes. I'd never noticed that CDs have their own beauty.

by drilling little holes in the CDs you can make a mobile out of them and hang them in the garden. They work super well at keeping birds, to include crows out of the gardens. And they look pretty cool to boot. (hah! pun unintended)

556 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:49:53pm

re: #527 lifeofthemind

A third of a century ago I worked with thousands of punch cards, running data sets through an AMDAHL under MVS-XA

I still have a box of punched cards in the basement, from when I used an IBM 1130 in high school. I doubt the cards are readable any more, even if the equipment could be found.

557 CIA Reject  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:50:05pm

re: #498 doppelganglander

Deal. Let's schedule a meeting of the Beer for Burkhas Committee so we can sample the donations before we ship them over. All are welcome.

Include me in.

*burp*

558 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:50:31pm

re: #554 Dustyvet

[Video]

Best scene in war movie history.

559 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:50:32pm

re: #547 Kosh's Shadow

And that generation was gear-driven -- totally mechanical.

560 Nevergiveup  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:50:42pm

re: #552 kcladderman

Read it here

Thanks.

561 lifeofthemind  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:50:45pm

re: #550 Silhouette

Look! It's dawn. (crow) Wait, there is sunrise again. (crow). And again. (crow)

Dark, light, dark, light. How's a poor fowl to get rest?

"Eminent worthies" are perfectly capable of having a meeting to discuss this issue as a product of Israel's senseless aggression against innocents, while ignoring the rockets landing on Sderot.

562 Silhouette  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:51:01pm

re: #506 Nevergiveup

22:20 Italy Jews: Pope Benedict`s recent remarks negate 50 years of interfaith progress

Anybody know what the Pope said?

"Turns out it said we are to remain a celebrant."

563 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:51:01pm

re: #556 Kosh's Shadow

Have a problem with OCD/Hoarding?

564 lostlakehiker  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:51:07pm

Who was that mosqued gunman?

565 redc1c4  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:51:11pm

re: #515 Outrider

did you get Down South?

nope......

566 Killian Bundy  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:51:21pm

re: #528 Render

Right, now look at the video where the soldier is standing next to the barrel.

/it has a greater diameter than what you're posting

567 Son of the Black Dog  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:51:25pm

re: #483 Marvo76

I didn't know they had one that close, I thought the biggest one was down in Blomington...not far from IU

Naw, I was flying through Indy one day and saw it out the window when we were on approach, and thought, "DAMN - that's a MOSQUE". Later checked, and found that there's lots of Muslims in the Indy area.

568 lifeofthemind  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:51:26pm

Webcam moved! focused on flare now shifted left

569 96RoadKing  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:51:44pm

Ahhhhhh. The logic and peace found in Lizard World. I feel my blood pressure lowering after dealing with my petty personal problems.

How wonderful...

570 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:52:05pm

re: #559 pre-Boomer Marine brat

And that generation was gear-driven -- totally mechanical.

Yes, as were the computers in the ships. There were also computers used to guide the big guns of the surface Navy, everything from 5" to 16". They were all mechanical, using cams, and were even capable of firing the guns while the ship was rolling, when the angle was right.

571 Nevergiveup  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:52:11pm

Removing cats to protect birds backfires on island

[Link: www.jpost.com...]

MEMO to the Global Warming crowd: Don't fuck with mother nature!

572 A.W.  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:52:25pm

Btw, i prefer to call them "HamAss."

573 beblebrox  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:52:35pm

re: #508 Tardis

A Hex on you.

There are only 10 kinds of people in the world

/old Binary code joke

574 Dustyvet  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:52:48pm

re: #524 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Right up their ally, then!

But I sir I fired at the IAF Aircraft...

You hit the the frigging market place idiot!

575 Dustyvet  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:53:08pm

re: #558 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Best scene in war movie history.

Yup...:)

576 Marvo76  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:53:09pm

re: #559 pre-Boomer Marine brat

And that generation was gear-driven -- totally mechanical.


the fire control for a Battleship was totally gear driven, but they could drop shells from the ship over 18 miles inland within a thousand feet of the target...It worked good, but just like the armor plate of that era, i doubt we have the technology today to recreate it...

577 Silhouette  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:53:16pm

re: #555 Outrider

by drilling little holes in the CDs

Isn't there already a hole?

/runs, ducks

578 so.cal.swede  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:53:19pm

re: #573 beblebrox

There are only 10 kinds of people in the world

/old Binary code joke

those who understand binary, and those who don't?

579 reine.de.tout  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:53:38pm

re: #506 Nevergiveup

22:20 Italy Jews: Pope Benedict`s recent remarks negate 50 years of interfaith progress

Anybody know what the Pope said?

No, but Cardinal Renato Martino made some really atrocious and stupid statements.

And the Times Online seems to think those comments may put the visit in jeapordy.

580 uncc_compman  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:53:52pm

re: #574 Dustyvet

But I sir I fired at the IAF Aircraft...

You hit the the frigging market place idiot!

Good thing we can always blame it on the IAF!

//

581 lifeofthemind  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:53:54pm

re: #570 Kosh's Shadow

Yes, as were the computers in the ships. There were also computers used to guide the big guns of the surface Navy, everything from 5" to 16". They were all mechanical, using cams, and were even capable of firing the guns while the ship was rolling, when the angle was right.

Heard that Rickover had a rule that all the controls in his subs had to be analog, he wanted his operators in control and not passive spectators, except for the nuke plant the ships looked old deliberately

582 Silhouette  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:54:02pm

re: #539 buzzsawmonkey

re: #532 Outrider

You folded...you spindled...you mutilated?!?

I folded and I mutiliated, but I swear, I never spindled.

We're Baptists.

583 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:54:06pm

re: #563 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Have a problem with OCD/Hoarding?

Part of my computer museum.
Abacus (modern)
1920's typewriter and adding machine
newer typewriters
slide rules
PDP-8e (need a teletype for it)
Apple ][
C64 (no monitor right now)

584 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:54:16pm

re: #574 Dustyvet

But I sir I fired at the IAF Aircraft...

You hit the the frigging market place idiot!

I think you are describing a higher level of leadership than really exists in Hamas.

585 Marvo76  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:54:51pm

re: #567 Son of the Black Dog

Naw, I was flying through Indy one day and saw it out the window when we were on approach, and thought, "DAMN - that's a MOSQUE". Later checked, and found that there's lots of Muslims in the Indy area.

Next wave at me if you come in from the Motheast, I live about 30 miles from the place on the approach route, up in Anderson...

586 Dustyvet  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:55:05pm

re: #582 Silhouette

I folded and I mutiliated, but I swear, I never spindled.

We're Baptists.

Oh the humanity of it...:)

587 Bob Dillon  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:55:13pm

re: #556 Kosh's Shadow

I still have a box of punched cards in the basement, from when I used an IBM 1130 in high school. I doubt the cards are readable any more, even if the equipment could be found.

Probably readable .. just not feed-able - the cards would have absorbed moisture from the air and increased in thickness. Thus jamming at the throat knife in any unit record card reader.

588 redc1c4  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:55:15pm

re: #566 Killian Bundy

Right, now look at the video where the soldier is standing next to the barrel.

/it has a greater diameter than what you're posting

but look at the flash cone at the muzzle..... not that big at all.

589 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:55:26pm

re: #563 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Have a problem with OCD/Hoarding?

Although I consider the cards part of my computer museum (forgot disk platters from 14" dia, 1 MB drives, magtape, and DECtape), my wife would agree with you.

590 Son of the Black Dog  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:56:25pm

re: #518 CIA Reject

I used to interview applicants for jobs that required "low level" programming knowledge. As a test I kept a plastic write ring from a 9 track tape in my desk drawer. If I was relatively sure an applicant knew his stuff, but wanted to make sure, I'd drop it on the desk and ask "what's that?"

All of the old-timers knew immediately, the youngsters not so much...

Good test!

591 DaddyG  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:56:27pm

re: #488 Outrider

their cloak of using euphemisms has been yanked off and they are revealed for he anti-Jewish crowd we have always known they are.

Same with the leftists and their agenda of destroying the traditional family life, that too has come into the open.

Now what has happened in the last few months that would cause these people to reveal their true feelings? ;-)>

Uh... I uh dunn-O?

592 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:56:40pm

re: #575 Dustyvet

Yup...:)

I wonder how many investigations and charges would be filed if a DI performed that speech in today's military?

I can see Gunny Hartman serving 20 to life for sexual harassment, alone. Big rocks into little ones...

593 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:56:50pm

re: #581 lifeofthemind

Heard that Rickover had a rule that all the controls in his subs had to be analog, he wanted his operators in control and not passive spectators, except for the nuke plant the ships looked old deliberately

I can understand. I get nervous with fly-by-wire with no backup. And I work with computers. (Maybe that's why I'm nervous!)

594 Dustyvet  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:56:59pm

re: #584 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

I think you are describing a higher level of leadership than really exists in Hamas.

No disrespect intended LT, but I just flashed on a Hamas 2nd LT...:)...I going to have bad dreams the rest of the day.

595 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:57:08pm

re: #583 Kosh's Shadow

Dude; get help.

596 Oh no...Sand People!  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:57:45pm

re: #251 CIA Reject

A friend of mine worked on the interior design for King Fadh's personal 747. Sucker had three bars in it! When he asked about it he was told that the prohibition on alcohol only applied 'on earth', so when you're flying it's OK to drink 'cause you are not 'on earth'.

/RIGHT!

Is that for REAL!?

597 [deleted]  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:57:53pm
598 Marvo76  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:57:57pm

re: #583 Kosh's Shadow

I actually could use a slide rule at one time, I took Electronics in the mid 70's and our teacher was an old school guy who thought using a caluculator made you lazy (that and a Texas instruments cost over $50 at the time)

599 Sunlight  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:58:18pm

I love it. Joe the plumber says that the U.S. and international media is asking him for his opinion and then they show Joe trying to get a German reporter to say anything about Hamas destroying the green houses Israel left behind in Gaza. She refused. They're afraid and not courageous. So they get Joe to say things.

600 ear-to-hear  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:58:22pm

re: #9 scottishbuzzsaw

It's there only to help facilitate worship.
/

Exactly. Why would anyone be surprised to find this in their house of worship? These people worship death (they say it themselves), and by extension, they worship the god of death, who is not the God of Israel.


'Them that hate Me, love death'.

601 RoughRider  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:58:23pm

re: #6 karmic_inquisitor

How dare Israel enter a sacred Mosque! War crime

Not to mention defiling the 6,547,312th holiest site in Islam with their Zionist presence.

602 lifeofthemind  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:58:26pm

re: #573 beblebrox

There are only 10 kinds of people in the world

/old Binary code joke

In economics they had Leontieff input output analysis, the limiting factor that decided how many inputs ad outputs would be tracked turned out to be the tolerance of his graduate students working it out with adding machines.

603 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:58:26pm

There's some serious ground fighting going on over yonder.

604 yma o hyd  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:58:37pm

I just had a sign saying 'Access blocked' on the roostercam - and now its gone Kiwi!

(Thats All Black for those who don't know their rugby!)

605 alegrias  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:58:43pm

OT, Thank George Bush for this:

Evening at the Embassy of Iraq
Wednesday, February 4 Price Increases 5 pm Friday

Now an ally of the United States, tonight we step onto Iraqi soil as we experiences centures of Iraqu culture. Tonight, sample Iraqi food, drinks, music, film, and art. We'll hear a special greeting from the Ambassador and will meet him and other Iraqi diplomats.
(Click here for details)

from: events@thingstodoDC.com

606 Son of the Black Dog  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:59:02pm

re: #530 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

WW1, too, right... as in M1902?

I'm not sure about the M-2 design itself, but the .50 round was a German WWI development.

607 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:59:05pm

re: #597 buzzsawmonkey

re: #598 Marvo76

re: #593 Kosh's Shadow

Ah geez...surrounded by nerds!

608 Digital Display  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:59:09pm

re: #581 lifeofthemind

Heard that Rickover had a rule that all the controls in his subs had to be analog, he wanted his operators in control and not passive spectators, except for the nuke plant the ships looked old deliberately


Fire control in a nuclear sub is very advanced..There is nothing analog to it..

609 Dustyvet  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:59:17pm

re: #592 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

I wonder how many investigations and charges would be filed if a DI performed that speech in today's military?

I can see Gunny Hartman serving 20 to life for sexual harassment, alone. Big rocks into little ones...

Holding up my stress card...:)

Had a friend that the first time he has handed a stress card, he ate it right in front of the kid who produced it.

610 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:59:22pm

re: #594 Dustyvet

No disrespect intended LT, but I just flashed on a Hamas 2nd LT...:)...I going to have bad dreams the rest of the day.

You mean the most dangerous man in the world with a map and a compass?

/except a Hamas 2LT wouldn't be able to read the map or use the compass.

(I don't take offence at LT jokes... been there, done that... got the nom de guerre "LT Commo Wire" once myself just crossing a friggin' road.)

611 reine.de.tout  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:59:26pm

re: #604 yma o hyd

I just had a sign saying 'Access blocked' on the roostercam - and now its gone Kiwi!

(Thats All Black for those who don't know their rugby!)

Yma - I'm getting the Roostercam video at this link.

612 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:59:34pm

re: #595 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Dude; get help.

The Boston computer museum closed, so even if I want to give the stuff somewhere, there is no place near to take it.
And I forgot the old manuals -
IBM 704, 705, 709, 7040, 7090,
and Maniac II.
Those I could probably donate somewhere. There are projects that keep items like these to show how computers developed over time.
All I'd need are scanned images of them. Much easier to store stuff on the computer.

613 lifeofthemind  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 12:59:38pm

re: #593 Kosh's Shadow

I can understand. I get nervous with fly-by-wire with no backup. And I work with computers. (Maybe that's why I'm nervous!)

You don't want Homer Simpson "flying" the plane?

614 opnion  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:00:15pm

re: #601 RoughRider

Not to mention defiling the 6,547,312th holiest site in Islam with their Zionist presence.


I thought that was Peoria.

615 doppelganglander  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:00:59pm

re: #531 Taqiyyotomist

This comes as no surprise at all to those who know who the spirit behind it all is. The greatest deceptions the world has ever known: Islam is peaceful, Israel is Nazilike, the Globe is Warming and its all Your Fault, Communism is Good. All have one architect, and he's convinced a large portion of the world he doesn't exist.

Keyser Soze?

616 Son of the Black Dog  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:01:57pm

re: #537 LGoPs

Heck, 1911's predate WWII by about 30 years. And I carried one as my sidearm until the late 80's, early 90's. Good weapon and sorry the Army went to Baretta's...

Carried an M1911A1 all over Vietnam as a courier. Agree with you - would still carry one in preference to a 9mm.

617 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:01:58pm

re: #612 Kosh's Shadow

Just because something is old; does not make it antique.

I am the king of "haven't used it in 6 months? Throw it out!"

Somewhere between you and me there is probably a sensible thought process.

618 yma o hyd  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:02:12pm

re: #611 reine.de.tout

Yma - I'm getting the Roostercam video at this link.

Thanks - I refreshed the page - its back now.
Was just so amazed to see this 'No access' sign!

619 lifeofthemind  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:02:16pm

re: #608 HoosierHoops

Fire control in a nuclear sub is very advanced..There is nothing analog to it..

Rickover is gone, the traditionalists hated him, his photo in his Naval Academy yearbook was on a detachable page.

620 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:02:45pm

re: #609 Dustyvet

Holding up my stress card...:)

Had a friend that the first time he has handed a stress card, he ate it right in front of the kid who produced it.

Dear Lord... it is worse than I thought. Gotta protect the little goons from any hardship... not like they are getting ready for people trying to kill them or anything. As it is, I'm preparing myself for the day in the coming weeks when DADT disappears and gays can serve openly, though I shudder to find out what that really means, perhaps assless-chaps.

621 Dustyvet  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:02:46pm

re: #604 yma o hyd

I just had a sign saying 'Access blocked' on the roostercam - and now its gone Kiwi!

(Thats All Black for those who don't know their rugby!)

622 Outrider  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:03:02pm

re: #583 Kosh's Shadow

Part of my computer museum.
Abacus (modern)
1920's typewriter and adding machine
newer typewriters
slide rules
PDP-8e (need a teletype for it)
Apple ][
C64 (no monitor right now)

wonder if any kids can even identify an abacus or slide rule.

Hey there's no power plug on this Underwood!

623 Killian Bundy  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:03:59pm

re: #588 redc1c4

but look at the flash cone at the muzzle..... not that big at all.

/upon further review, I'll admit it's too small to be a 40 mm, but the ammo they found with it is larger than 14.5mm

624 LGoPs  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:04:03pm

re: #616 Son of the Black Dog

Carried an M1911A1 all over Vietnam as a courier. Agree with you - would still carry one in preference to a 9mm.

I have a very nice S&W Model 645 that's a fairly close approximate. Except its clip holds 8 rounds, not 7. Nice weapon.

625 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:04:18pm

Somebody who's not A.D.D. able to watch the cam long enough to see an explosion and count the seconds before it is heard to give some distance to the explosions?

626 Marvo76  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:04:24pm

What the sam hell is a stress card? At great lakes they just sent you to IT to work out the stress LOL...

627 [deleted]  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:04:54pm
628 lifeofthemind  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:05:04pm

re: #622 Outrider

wonder if any kids can even identify an abacus or slide rule.

Hey there's no power plug on this Underwood!

Children used to learn mechanical drawing, excellent skills, now they just learn to play with CAD

629 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:05:09pm

re: #625 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Somebody who's not A.D.D. able to watch the cam long enough to see an explosion and count the seconds before it is heard to give some distance to the explosions?

I'm cued up to do that.

630 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:05:57pm

re: #622 Outrider

wonder if any kids can even identify an abacus or slide rule.

Hey there's no power plug on this Underwood!

Sat my son down at a late version IBM Selectric about 5 years ago. He laughed and laughed. But, I still think it was a pretty good joke.

631 Dustyvet  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:06:09pm

re: #621 Dustyvet

[Video]

Better one

632 [deleted]  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:06:14pm
633 CIA Reject  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:06:25pm

re: #581 lifeofthemind

Heard that Rickover had a rule that all the controls in his subs had to be analog, he wanted his operators in control and not passive spectators, except for the nuke plant the ships looked old deliberately

A lot of the gear on submarines appears "old" because of the outrageous shock requirements it has to meet and remain functional. The crew may all be dead, but by G*d that pot is still gonna make coffee! :-)

634 Silhouette  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:06:29pm

re: #617 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Just because something is old; does not make it antique.

People are often VERY disappointed when they find out grandma's stamp collection with those "really old" stamps from the 1930s are worth little more than face value.

635 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:06:42pm

re: #626 Marvo76

What the sam hell is a stress card? At great lakes they just sent you to IT to work out the stress LOL...

Apparently something a recruit can pull out when they feel the DI is pushing too hard and they need them to back off.

/by definition, this is a bad thing unless its one of those extremely rare cases where you have a DI who is unprofessional and gets into S&M...

636 reine.de.tout  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:06:43pm

re: #618 yma o hyd

Thanks - I refreshed the page - its back now.
Was just so amazed to see this 'No access' sign!

Did it look like this?

637 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:06:43pm

re: #629 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Thanks! Wanna go ride a bike?

638 [deleted]  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:07:00pm
639 Outrider  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:07:06pm

re: #626 Marvo76

What the sam hell is a stress card? At great lakes they just sent you to IT to work out the stress LOL...

thought that was what push ups were for?

640 Marvo76  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:07:08pm

I know we used it to figure log/anilog and do formulas for calculating resistance power, inductance and capacitance.....It was kinda fun but now my eyes are to the point I don't think I could read the lines right....

641 Digital Display  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:07:11pm

re: #627 buzzsawmonkey

You might as well give up now.

Truth to tell, I never learned to properly use a slide rule--to my father's deep disappointment. I do, however, believe that students should still be forced to learn how to use one rather than be permitted to use calculators; the slide rule is a tool in which the intellect has to be engaged, while the calculator merely does the work for you and spits out the answer.

The former is a means for education; the latter moves the student down the road of laziness and stupidity.

GAK! *Head explodes!*
slide rule? slide rules should be against the law..except maybe in China.

642 vagabond trader  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:07:29pm

So sick of these guys, but Hil's gonna fix everything.

sarc/

643 DaddyG  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:08:09pm

re: #630 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Sat my son down at a late version IBM Selectric about 5 years ago. He laughed and laughed. But, I still think it was a pretty good joke.

I did most of my undergraduate writing on one of those things. Avacado green with a type ball. I was thrilled with the auto-correct function (one letter at a time) because it was such a time saver. Of course if you ran out of correction ribbon you had to do it manually with a slip of correction paper, or white out the page and re-type.

644 lifeofthemind  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:08:13pm

re: #633 CIA Reject

A lot of the gear on submarines appears "old" because of the outrageous shock requirements it has to meet and remain functional. The crew may all be dead, but by G*d that pot is still gonna make coffee! :-)

I once knew a fellow who's Father is on the Thresher.

645 Silhouette  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:08:20pm

re: #622 Outrider

wonder if any kids can even identify an abacus or slide rule.

Hey there's no power plug on this Underwood!

I had a two-yr-old in the store the other day, who looked at the bead thingy and said, "Ab'cus."

646 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:08:23pm

re: #598 Marvo76

I actually could use a slide rule at one time, I took Electronics in the mid 70's and our teacher was an old school guy who thought using a caluculator made you lazy (that and a Texas instruments cost over $50 at the time)

Got a slide rule for college; used it freshman year. At the time, a "scientific" calculator, the SR-10 (scientific in that it had square root and scientific notation), was over $100.
For the next year, I had an SR-50, with all the functions we take for granted in a $15 scientific calculator today, only for $150. Of course, it had rechargeable batteries, because LEDs used so much power.
Senior year, I got an HP-67, which had a magnetic card to store programs and data.
Still have the slide rule and calculators.

647 CIA Reject  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:08:23pm

re: #596 Oh no...Sand People!

Is that for REAL!?

That's what he was told by the contracting rep who was, I assume, acting for the Royal Family.

648 [deleted]  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:08:59pm
649 Spare O'Lake  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:09:01pm

re: #556 Kosh's Shadow

I still have a box of punched cards in the basement, from when I used an IBM 1130 in high school. I doubt the cards are readable any more, even if the equipment could be found.

LOL. You should have kept a few Mickey Mantle Rookie cards instead.

In my introductory computer class in Grade 10 we designed and wrote simple little elementary programs using Fortran IV. We did not have a computer on site, or even a card punch machine, so we used to fill in dots on the cards using special pencils. Then the cards were shipped to another school which had an IBM 360. There was a turn-around time of 3 or 4 days, and then we would get our cards back with a print-out from a huge mechanical printer. Once during the term we were given a tour of the computer room at the other school - the computer filled up half of the room and the card reader alone was the size of a bread box.
It was all so impressive.

650 Bob Dillon  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:09:08pm

re: #625 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Somebody who's not A.D.D. able to watch the cam long enough to see an explosion and count the seconds before it is heard to give some distance to the explosions?

Someone estimated the distance of 3-4 miles a couple of days ago.

651 lifeofthemind  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:09:11pm

re: #638 buzzsawmonkey

Mechanical drawing was easily the toughest class I took in high school.

The kids always looked real cute with their T-squares sticking out of the book bags

652 tokyobk  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:09:38pm

re: #641 HoosierHoops

Abacusesus es, er abaci, called soroban in Japan, are actually kind of cool and if you learn to use them it makes mental math really easy.

653 [deleted]  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:10:20pm
654 Marvo76  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:10:27pm

well all, gotta get off here and get some stuff ready to take to my grandparents,they are shut ins and we made a big batch of turkey and noodles last night for dinner, gonna take them some in a care package....then back to work diggin the floor out of my rental so I can replumb....joy joy joy...(///)

655 DeafDog  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:10:40pm

re: #643 DaddyG

I did most of my undergraduate writing on one of those things. Avacado green with a type ball. I was thrilled with the auto-correct function (one letter at a time) because it was such a time saver. Of course if you ran out of correction ribbon you had to do it manually with a slip of correction paper, or white out the page and re-type.

The worst part - at least for me - was having to write everything out long hand before I could type it. It's a huge timesaver to be be able to draft on the PC instead.

656 Dustyvet  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:10:41pm

You Can't Roller Skate in a Buffalo Herd


Cuz you'll get stuff on your skates...


657 LGoPs  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:10:52pm

re: #646 Kosh's Shadow

re: #598 Marvo76

I actually could use a slide rule at one time, I took Electronics in the mid 70's and our teacher was an old school guy who thought using a caluculator made you lazy (that and a Texas instruments cost over $50 at the time)


Got a slide rule for college; used it freshman year. At the time, a "scientific" calculator, the SR-10 (scientific in that it had square root and scientific notation), was over $100.
For the next year, I had an SR-50, with all the functions we take for granted in a $15 scientific calculator today, only for $150. Of course, it had rechargeable batteries, because LEDs used so much power.
Senior year, I got an HP-67, which had a magnetic card to store programs and data.
Still have the slide rule and calculators.

Hell, all I had me was an abycuss.....you spoled rich kids..........
:)

658 yma o hyd  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:10:55pm

re: #621 Dustyvet

Heh. watch how our lads answered to the Haka last autumn:


659 Outrider  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:10:58pm

re: #630 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Sat my son down at a late version IBM Selectric about 5 years ago. He laughed and laughed. But, I still think it was a pretty good joke.

I'm one of those "keep it because I may need it" types. I still have the old mechanical drawing box sets, slide rules, mechanical typewriters, electric typewriter, Vic- 20, C-64, Apple IIe as well as everything that went with them.

660 Digital Display  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:11:04pm

re: #644 lifeofthemind

I once knew a fellow who's Father is on the Thresher.

Boy..that was bad..sorry to hear that.

661 Silhouette  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:11:23pm

I challenge you to try to write SHELL OIL on your slide rule.

662 doppelganglander  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:12:07pm

re: #643 DaddyG

I did most of my undergraduate writing on one of those things. Avacado green with a type ball. I was thrilled with the auto-correct function (one letter at a time) because it was such a time saver. Of course if you ran out of correction ribbon you had to do it manually with a slip of correction paper, or white out the page and re-type.

The first time my kids went to the National Gallery Sculpture Garden in Washington, DC, they were utterly mystified by this work by Claes Oldenburg.

663 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:12:27pm

re: #661 Silhouette

I challenge you to try to write SHELL OIL on your slide rule.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

664 tokyobk  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:12:30pm

re: #653 buzzsawmonkey

And if you don't learn how to use them you start abacussing a blue streak.

Hey Ho! I dinged you up at least in case no one else does!

665 [deleted]  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:12:56pm
666 Outrider  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:13:15pm

re: #645 Silhouette

I had a two-yr-old in the store the other day, who looked at the bead thingy and said, "Ab'cus."

excellent. Who trained her? ;-)>

667 Soona'  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:13:23pm

re: #620 Vet_Missing_Parts (1LT, Ret)

Dear Lord... it is worse than I thought. Gotta protect the little goons from any hardship... not like they are getting ready for people trying to kill them or anything. As it is, I'm preparing myself for the day in the coming weeks when DADT disappears and gays can serve openly, though I shudder to find out what that really means, perhaps assless-chaps.

Crotchless boxer shorts.
//:p

668 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:13:24pm

re: #643 DaddyG

I did most of my undergraduate writing on one of those things. Avacado green with a type ball. I was thrilled with the auto-correct function (one letter at a time) because it was such a time saver. Of course if you ran out of correction ribbon you had to do it manually with a slip of correction paper, or white out the page and re-type.

Mine was done on a Smith-Corona manual portable. No electric cord, either. Used the correction tape or white-out.
Although three of us used the DecSystem 10 to write a project. Printout was all upper case. They changed the rules after we did it. First case of Word Processing that I know of, but TECO was certainly not WYSIWYG.

669 DaddyG  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:13:50pm

re: #655 DeafDog

The worst part - at least for me - was having to write everything out long hand before I could type it. It's a huge timesaver to be be able to draft on the PC instead.

What is this "draft" you speak of. ;-)

670 loppyd  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:14:02pm

Just got home, flipped on the TV and saw this.

Senators Raise Questions About Geithner's Nomination at Treasury

Sen. Charles E. Grassley, ranking Republican on the Senate Finance Committee, is raising questions about a housekeeper who worked briefly for Treasury Secretary-nominee Timothy Geithner without proper immigration papers, and multiple years when Mr. Geithner didn't pay Social Security and Medicare taxes for himself.

Senate Finance Committee Chairman Max Baucus (D., Mont.) has summoned committee members to his office this afternoon to air the matter ahead of any public confirmation hearing.

Team O has put out a statement which I will link when I locate...

671 Digital Display  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:14:09pm

re: #659 Outrider

I'm one of those "keep it because I may need it" types. I still have the old mechanical drawing box sets, slide rules, mechanical typewriters, electric typewriter, Vic- 20, C-64, Apple IIe as well as everything that went with them.

If your computer ever dies you can hook up the Apple iie and a 300 baud modem and dial back into LGF.

672 Silhouette  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:14:53pm

re: #662 doppelganglander

The first time my kids went to the National Gallery Sculpture Garden in Washington, DC, they were utterly mystified by this work by Claes Oldenburg.

The funniest thing was when my kids heard a 'dialup connection' noise and asked, "What's that?"

Never mind always having the internet; they had never known a world without wireless.

673 bombarafat  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:15:20pm

Ummm that's not a cannon that's part of the pipe organ for the chorus.

674 Son of the Black Dog  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:15:24pm

re: #576 Marvo76

the fire control for a Battleship was totally gear driven, but they could drop shells from the ship over 18 miles inland within a thousand feet of the target...It worked good, but just like the armor plate of that era, i doubt we have the technology today to recreate it...

Once saw a visual of the shot fall from an Iowa class overlaid on the outline of the Pentagon. Every round was inside, or mostly inside, the outer ring.

675 midwestgak  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:15:30pm

re: #641 HoosierHoops

GAK! *Head explodes!*
slide rule? slide rules should be against the law..except maybe in China.

Head turns to see who called.

676 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:15:37pm

re: #665 buzzsawmonkey

The impressiveness was largely due to that gray crackle-finish paint on the metal housings; you knew you were in the presence of something technical and scientific.

Whatever happened to that gray crackle-finish? I'd love to see it on a laptop.

How about those huge consoles with lots of blinking lights? I want an old IBM 360 panel.
That showed you were really using a COMPUTER!

677 A.W.  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:15:52pm

Dang, i thought i had a clever joke about the canons of islam. but about 300 bastards beat me to it.

678 Dustyvet  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:15:53pm

re: #658 yma o hyd

Heh. watch how our lads answered to the Haka last autumn:

Well done Wales!

679 Tardis  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:16:00pm

re: #573 beblebrox

There are only 10 kinds of people in the world

/old Binary code joke

Two 'che.

680 yma o hyd  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:16:16pm

re: #636 reine.de.tout

Did it look like this?

No - just a blue background with the words 'No access' in white.

681 Nevergiveup  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:16:22pm

re: #670 loppyd

Just got home, flipped on the TV and saw this.

Senators Raise Questions About Geithner's Nomination at Treasury

Team O has put out a statement which I will link when I locate...

Gee I don't really know anything about this guy, but if he is qualified, lets not go down the nanny road again. Fine him and move on. There are so many other UNQUALIFIED Obama appointees out there.

682 MandyManners  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:16:25pm

What does a slide rule do?

683 LGoPs  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:16:52pm

re: #674 Son of the Black Dog

Once saw a visual of the shot fall from an Iowa class overlaid on the outline of the Pentagon. Every round was inside, or mostly inside, the outer ring.

Make a helluva sniper weapon. As long as your target is a small town....

684 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:16:53pm

re: #671 HoosierHoops

If your computer ever dies you can hook up the Apple iie and a 300 baud modem and dial back into LGF.

I have a 1200 baud modem, just in case I don't want to deal with the 300 baud acoustic coupler one.

685 A.W.  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:16:53pm

Now look, all they wanted to do was play the 1812 overture. is that so wrong?

lol

686 loppyd  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:17:00pm

re: #681 Nevergiveup

Gee I don't really know anything about this guy, but if he is qualified, lets not go down the nanny road again. Fine him and move on. There are so many other UNQUALIFIED Obama appointees out there.

It's not just the nanny. He failed to pay his OWN taxes.

687 Digital Display  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:17:03pm

re: #675 midwestgak

Head turns to see who called.

Hiya! Cold today isn't it..Thursday is supposed to be real bad.

688 [deleted]  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:17:10pm
689 Nevergiveup  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:17:19pm

re: #682 MandyManners

What does a slide rule do?

Leaves a nasty scar on the forehead.

690 jcm  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:17:20pm

re: #659 Outrider

I'm one of those "keep it because I may need it" types. I still have the old mechanical drawing box sets, slide rules, mechanical typewriters, electric typewriter, Vic- 20, C-64, Apple IIe as well as everything that went with them.

There is a company in Seattle that makes money "recovering" data from old media. Company upgrades and an old format is unreadable either software, or hardware changes, then the company needs to access the old files they go to this recovery outfit.

691 exredtory  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:17:28pm

The ammo and gun looks like maybe the "Dushka" which is the Russian counterpart to the .50 cal @ 12.7-mm: [Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

IIRC, the "Chicago piano" was the quad array of 1.1" guns used for AA on U.S. ships until superceded by the quad 20-mm oerlikon and 40-mm Bofors (neutrality is profitable): [Link: www.navweaps.com...]

"Chicago typewriter" referred to the chatter of the Thompson .45, but the musical portmanteau may have evolved from the movie cliche of gangsters concealing their Tommy guns in violin, or more likely, the larger viola cases. I supposed you'd need a double-bass viol case to tote an M2 around in.

I guess that thing ended up in the stairwell as the goons were trying to get it to the roof.

Allahu Ack-Ack!

692 Soona'  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:17:42pm

re: #627 buzzsawmonkey

You might as well give up now.

Truth to tell, I never learned to properly use a slide rule--to my father's deep disappointment. I do, however, believe that students should still be forced to learn how to use one rather than be permitted to use calculators; the slide rule is a tool in which the intellect has to be engaged, while the calculator merely does the work for you and spits out the answer.

The former is a means for education; the latter moves the student down the road of laziness and stupidity.

And I can just hear the old farts when the slide rule was invented. "Lazy bastards, can't cut notches on their legs anymore. Bah"!
//

693 Peacekeeper  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:17:48pm

Gaza vs Mogadishu. The title may sound moonbattish, but its being ironic. A very thoughtful piece.

694 CIA Reject  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:17:58pm

re: #644 lifeofthemind

I once knew a fellow who's Father is on the Thresher.

Funny you should mention that. Years ago I worked with a guy who once worked on a 3 man civilian contractor team that tested sonar gear on submarines during sea trials. One man would ride on the sub to tend the gear and the other two would ride on a "chase" ship on the surface. My friend (being all of 5' 2" tall) usually rode in the submarine, but they had a new guy they were breaking in on this one cruise so they decided, on the plane up to the shipyard, that the new guy would ride the sub on that trial and my friend would ride the surface ship.

The submarine was the Thresher and the sea trial was her last mission.

Makes you think...

695 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:17:59pm

Hamas reinforcments being sent in.

696 Nevergiveup  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:18:13pm

re: #686 loppyd

It's not just the nanny. He failed to pay his OWN taxes.

Oh well that's a horse of a different color. Never mind.

697 CapeCoddah  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:18:17pm

re: #670 loppyd

Just got home, flipped on the TV and saw this.

Senators Raise Questions About Geithner's Nomination at Treasury

Team O has put out a statement which I will link when I locate...

Hey Loppy, E-mail me when you get a chance, we should start planning a N.E. lizard meet!

698 DeafDog  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:18:31pm

re: #669 DaddyG

What is this "draft" you speak of. ;-)

Only when party schedule permitted.

699 LGoPs  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:18:31pm

re: #682 MandyManners

What does a slide rule do?

Slide Rule # 1: If you enter at the top, you come out at the bottom.....
:)

700 bulwrk  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:18:51pm

re: #682 MandyManners

Really I thought a slide rule was something like you can't go down backwards.

701 Bloodnok  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:18:58pm

re: #682 MandyManners

What does a slide rule do?

It dirties a baserunner's pants.

702 doppelganglander  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:19:09pm

re: #672 Silhouette

The funniest thing was when my kids heard a 'dialup connection' noise and asked, "What's that?"

Never mind always having the internet; they had never known a world without wireless.

Your kids must be a bit younger than mine. We had a dial-up in the mid-90s. I remember the first time we got on line, via CompuServe, and saw an exhibit of dinosaurs at the University of Hawaii. They were all under 7 and extremely impressed.

703 midwestgak  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:19:13pm

re: #687 HoosierHoops

Hiya! Cold today isn't it..Thursday is supposed to be real bad.

It will be bitter. Iv'e been shoveling even the least little bit of snow away from my garage door because it is going to turn to stone real soon.

704 lifeofthemind  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:19:17pm

re: #660 HoosierHoops

Boy..that was bad..sorry to hear that.

Bright kid, he went to St Johns, drank like a fish, knew important people

705 Dustyvet  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:19:18pm

re: #695 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Hamas reinforcments being sent in.

Can you see if their taller then 4' 2"...?

706 [deleted]  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:19:21pm
707 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:19:25pm

re: #682 MandyManners

What does a slide rule do?

It adds logarithms, which means it multiplies.
Here is a site on them
Used before the days of electronic calculators. Wearing one on the belt was the badge of a geek.
Reminds me, I still have a circular one I used in high school. When I'm famous, it will be in a museum somewhere.....

708 gmsc  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:20:02pm

OT: "Ann coulter should be drawn and quartered." - bizarre political discussion on a discussion board geared toward performing magicians.

709 Nevergiveup  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:20:08pm

re: #700 bulwrk

Really I thought a slide rule was something like you can't go down backwards.

Unless it's a government job then ass backwards faces front?

710 DaddyG  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:20:12pm

re: #682 MandyManners

What does a slide rule do?

I'm seeing Johnny Carson holding an envelope to his head that says "How did the constipated engineer work out his problem?"

711 UberInfidel67  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:20:15pm

re: #589 Kosh's Shadow I have an old IBM 386 with 16K if you are interested. lol Seriously, I have one : /

712 lawhawk  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:20:30pm

re: #670 loppyd

Is the Obama statement basically "It's Bush's fault?!"

Geithner is the current chair of the NY Fed.

713 filetandrelease  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:20:33pm

re: #529 sattv4u2

But can I still say "It tastes just like fish"?

I always release the ones I catch anyway.

714 loppyd  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:20:54pm

Team O not ready to throw Geither under the bus just yet:

Geithner Made Honest Mistakes On Taxes, Obama Spokesman Says


WASHINGTON -- Tim Geithner, President-elect Barack Obama's nominee to head the Treasury Department, made "honest mistakes" on taxes and is the right person for the job, an Obama spokesman said Tuesday. "He made a common mistake on his taxes, and was unaware that his part-time housekeeper's work authorization expired for the last three months of her employment," incoming White House press secretary Robert Gibbs said in a statement. Earlier Tuesday, Sen. Charles Grassley, R-Iowa, raised questions about the housekeeper and multiple years when Geithner didn't pay Social Security and Medicare taxes for himself.

Riiiiiiight.

715 jcm  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:20:55pm

re: #674 Son of the Black Dog

Once saw a visual of the shot fall from an Iowa class overlaid on the outline of the Pentagon. Every round was inside, or mostly inside, the outer ring.

You want a cool fire mechanical fire control computer....
Torpedo Data Computer from the WWII fleet boats.
Keyport Undersea Warfare Museum has a working one.

716 Silhouette  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:20:56pm

re: #688 buzzsawmonkey

If you want to really blow their minds, make them use a dial phone.

I DID! We had one in the lobby at a hotel in DC. I made them dial our home phone number just to show them how long it took. They kept messing up, too (didn't go all the way around or it slipped) so I made them start over until they got all 11 numbers in a row correct.

Make 'em appreciate the modern age.

717 KenJen  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:21:05pm

re: #169 Iron Fist

The only M-2s I've ever been around were at Knob Creek. There must have been over a dozen of them there (including a quad-.50 AA site). I didn't see any of them jam or fail to feed, and they were going at it pretty hot and heavy. If it were an FAL doing this, I'd suspect that the gas regulator wasn't set right, but I don't think an M-2 has one of those.

And head-space issues would potentially make the gun dangerous to shoot. I like a .50, but I don't even know where I'd put one if I could afford it :-(

Next machine gun shoot at Knob Creek April 3,4,5. Fun stuff!

718 notutopia  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:21:07pm

For those of us asking what can we do to help Israel win against Hamas......
This just posted by Ymedad.
The citizens of Israel.
[Link: myrightword.blogspot.com...]

719 Nevergiveup  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:21:10pm

re: #701 Bloodnok

It dirties a baserunner's pants.

Unless your Ty Cobb, then it leaves a few scars in your groin.

720 doppelganglander  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:21:27pm

re: #686 loppyd

It's not just the nanny. He failed to pay his OWN taxes.

Another graduate of the Leona Helmsley School of Tax Accounting?

721 loppyd  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:21:38pm

re: #712 lawhawk

Is the Obama statement basically "It's Bush's fault?!"

Geithner is the current chair of the NY Fed.

Makes it even more egregious.

722 Soona'  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:21:41pm

re: #686 loppyd

It's not just the nanny. He failed to pay his OWN taxes.

Isn't that considered acceptable character by the dems?

723 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:21:49pm

re: #711 UberInfidel67

I have an old IBM 386 with 16K if you are interested. lol Seriously, I have one : /

No, that is too new for my museum.
Thanks, though.

724 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:22:10pm

Machine cannon.
Helicopter?

725 Silhouette  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:22:31pm

re: #685 A.W.

Now look, all they wanted to do was play the 1812 overture. is that so wrong?

lol

For you.

726 Nevergiveup  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:22:33pm

re: #722 Soona'

Isn't that considered acceptable character by the dems?

I don't know, I'll have to ask Charlie Rangle?

727 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:22:41pm

So, I am gathering that at many Lizards houses McGuyver could basically find enough crap to save the world from just about anything.

728 yma o hyd  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:22:43pm

re: #678 Dustyvet

Well done Wales!

We had them on the rack in the first half - but being the All Blacks, they came out in the second half all guns blazing.
They had to play their best rugby of their season to beat us - and they did us the honour of fielding their top team.
The English, next week, got beaten far worse, and the All Blacks just fielded their third string.

Yeah, losing is bad, but making the victors work flat out for it, and getting compliments after the match for giving them the best game they had all season is pretty good.

729 [deleted]  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:23:47pm
730 Bloodnok  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:23:50pm

re: #720 doppelganglander

Another graduate of the Leona Helmsley School of Tax Accounting?

And the Mitt Romney Domestic Hiring Service.

731 Silhouette  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:23:56pm

re: #706 buzzsawmonkey

Properly used, a slide rule can be used to work out anything from simple multiplication and division up through advanced calculus.

I'm confused. The only straight answer came from buzz?!

732 yma o hyd  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:24:00pm

re: #682 MandyManners

What does a slide rule do?

Slides and rules?
Rules to slide?

I never could figure out how the damn things worked ...

733 [deleted]  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:25:13pm
734 notutopia  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:25:16pm

re: #717 KenJen

Next machine gun shoot at Knob Creek April 3,4,5. Fun stuff!


[Link: www.machinegunshoot.com...]

735 Nevergiveup  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:25:26pm

re: #682 MandyManners

What does a slide rule do?

Well actually if truth be told: It put a man on the moon!

736 Dustyvet  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:25:34pm

re: #728 yma o hyd

We had them on the rack in the first half - but being the All Blacks, they came out in the second half all guns blazing.
They had to play their best rugby of their season to beat us - and they did us the honour of fielding their top team.
The English, next week, got beaten far worse, and the All Blacks just fielded their third string.

Yeah, losing is bad, but making the victors work flat out for it, and getting compliments after the match for giving them the best game they had all season is pretty good.

This dummy once walked into a Leeds United shop, and asked to purchase a Manchester United coffee mug...:(

737 [deleted]  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:25:47pm
738 Render  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:26:11pm

re: #566 Killian Bundy

Walk around pictures of a ZPU-1 on its original ground mount.

[Link: svsm.org...]

It's a big massively overbuilt gun. Typical of Soviet era weapons, it's actually much bigger and heavier then it needed to be.

KB, you don't wanna bet me on this...

The Russians never made a 40mm weapon. They made several different 37mm weapons prior to and during the war, but those were withdrawn from production and service soon after the war.

===

Soviet 14.5mm rounds are closer in size to the 12.7mm/50cal then to 23mm. Soviet 23mm rounds are quite large.

The ZPU-1, although very large for its caliber, can be broken down into several smaller loads for transport.

===

I'd lay money that this was an Egyptian weapon, declared obsolete and smuggled to HAMAS by a friendly/corrupt Egyptian military officer. Or, it's a leftover from the Egyptian occupation.

I'd also lay money that the ammo belt in the video are of Egyptian production.

NEW
KEYBOARD!,
R

739 MandyManners  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:26:49pm

Thanks for the answers and the grins!

740 lifeofthemind  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:27:00pm

re: #691 exredtory

The ammo and gun looks like maybe the "Dushka" which is the Russian counterpart to the .50 cal @ 12.7-mm: [Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

IIRC, the "Chicago piano" was the quad array of 1.1" guns used for AA on U.S. ships until superceded by the quad 20-mm oerlikon and 40-mm Bofors (neutrality is profitable): [Link: www.navweaps.com...]

"Chicago typewriter" referred to the chatter of the Thompson .45, but the musical portmanteau may have evolved from the movie cliche of gangsters concealing their Tommy guns in violin, or more likely, the larger viola cases. I supposed you'd need a double-bass viol case to tote an M2 around in.

I guess that thing ended up in the stairwell as the goons were trying to get it to the roof.

Allahu Ack-Ack!

Dangerous place Chicago

741 Outrider  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:27:07pm

re: #671 HoosierHoops

If your computer ever dies you can hook up the Apple iie and a 300 baud modem and dial back into LGF.

sure. log in, go out and burn one. Type a comment, go out and burn one. Type in new comments and go out and burn one. lol

742 midwestgak  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:27:15pm

re: #735 Nevergiveup

Well actually if truth be told: It put a man on the moon!

I always thought it was a rocket and lunar lander that did that. Huh. Who knew?/

743 Dustyvet  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:27:16pm

re: #735 Nevergiveup

Well actually if truth be told: It put a man on the moon!

Gee and hear i thought all these years it was a LEM...:)

744 Silhouette  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:27:23pm

re: #735 Nevergiveup

Well actually if truth be told: It put a man on the moon!

Aye, and created the world's first nuclear bomb.

Something the Iranians have worked for decades on, with computers, AND all the technology already invented.

745 Spare O'Lake  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:28:01pm

World media: Israel 'endangers roots of our civilization'

Sounds to me like a veiled threat of a holy war.

746 Dustyvet  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:28:12pm

re: #742 midwestgak

I always thought it was a rocket and lunar lander that did that. Huh. Who knew?/

GMTA...:)

747 yma o hyd  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:28:39pm

re: #736 Dustyvet

This dummy once walked into a Leeds United shop, and asked to purchase a Manchester United coffee mug...:(

Oh-mi-gawd!

Did the dummy walk out alive?

748 Kenneth  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:28:53pm

re: #487 jaunte

There's a drawing in the video of some hands chained (to the al Aqsa mosque?). Does anyone here know what that's supposed to represent?

The Muslim myth of replacement theology has enslaved the people to a violent death cult.

749 newsjunkie_ky  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:29:01pm

testing new avatar. Thanks to Killian Bundy.

750 scottishbuzzsaw  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:29:07pm

re: #708 gmsc

OT: "Ann coulter should be drawn and quartered." - bizarre political discussion on a discussion board geared toward performing magicians.

Go Scott!

I'm just sorry we've reached the point where supporting basic Constitutional rights is deemed "being on a high horse".
751 lifeofthemind  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:29:27pm

Sky is getting lighter and the fire is slowly increasing , I think today will be a big push

752 Outrider  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:29:33pm

re: #676 Kosh's Shadow

How about those huge consoles with lots of blinking lights? I want an old IBM 360 panel.
That showed you were really using a COMPUTER!

how about entire freezing cold rooms filled with consoles with tapes? I was assigned to Augsburg, Germany in '73 and there was an enormous room full of nothing but.

753 Dustyvet  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:29:38pm

re: #747 yma o hyd

Oh-mi-gawd!

Did the dummy walk out alive?

Well yeah...:) After the shop keeper told me where to go...:)

754 midwestgak  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:29:49pm

re: #746 Dustyvet

GMTA...:)

Right back at ya :)

755 Soona'  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:30:22pm

re: #728 yma o hyd

We had them on the rack in the first half - but being the All Blacks, they came out in the second half all guns blazing.
They had to play their best rugby of their season to beat us - and they did us the honour of fielding their top team.
The English, next week, got beaten far worse, and the All Blacks just fielded their third string.

Yeah, losing is bad, but making the victors work flat out for it, and getting compliments after the match for giving them the best game they had all season is pretty good.

(Yawn)

756 yma o hyd  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:30:38pm

re: #749 newsjunkie_ky

testing new avatar. Thanks to Killian Bundy.

Its still the old one ...

757 Outrider  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:30:44pm

re: #688 buzzsawmonkey

If you want to really blow their minds, make them use a dial phone.

the huge, heavy black ones? lol

758 Digital Display  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:30:47pm

re: #731 Silhouette

I'm confused. The only straight answer came from buzz?!

That's not the Buzz I knew! under the Bus you go!

759 Tardis  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:30:58pm

re: #682 MandyManners

What does a slide rule do?

Rule 1. One at at time.
Rule 2. Feet first.
Rule 3. No climbing up the slide.

760 Kragar  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:31:17pm

re: #724 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Machine cannon.
Helicopter?

Must be a mosque somewhere close

761 newsjunkie_ky  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:31:34pm

re: #756 yma o hyd

Its still the old one ...


Hit refresh, I did and it changed to Izzy.
Let me know.

762 KenJen  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:31:57pm

re: #734 notutopia

[Link: www.machinegunshoot.com...]

Thanks. Im still learning how to re: to a comment. Bad I know.

763 loppyd  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:32:01pm

re: #722 Soona'

Isn't that considered acceptable character by the dems?

He's supposed to pay MORE so someone else can pay less?

764 [deleted]  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:32:04pm
765 Nevergiveup  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:32:05pm

re: #759 Tardis

Rule 1. One at at time.
Rule 2. Feet first.
Rule 3. No climbing up the slide.

Those are girl rules right?

766 Occasional Reader  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:32:09pm

"So, little boy, what do you want for Eid-al-Fitr?"

An official Red Army KPV/ZPU-1 14.5mm range model heavy machine gun with a compass in the stock and this thing that tells time!

"You'll shoot your eye out, kid."

767 yma o hyd  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:32:14pm

re: #753 Dustyvet

Well yeah...:) After the shop keeper told me where to go...:)

I bet he didn't use refined, polite expressions!

;-)

768 lifeofthemind  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:32:15pm

Everyone is feeling geeky today, Belmont Club has a thread on tiny networked sensors

769 midwestgak  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:32:16pm

re: #757 Outrider

the huge, heavy black ones? lol

LOL but not compatible. The phone cord was permanently attached.

770 Dustyvet  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:32:22pm

re: #758 HoosierHoops

That's not the Buzz I knew! under the Bus you go!

771 yochanan  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:32:27pm

re: #702 doppelganglander

reminds me when i used the term 'broken record' and my kid pipped up and said WHAT'S A RECORD and he wasn't kidding. he had never seen one.

772 Son of the Black Dog  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:32:32pm

re: #686 loppyd

It's not just the nanny. He failed to pay his OWN taxes.

Treasury Secretary is over the IRS. Not paying one's taxes is probably a no-no for this position.

773 jcm  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:32:46pm

OH BLOODY HELL!

Washington Court: Teachers Can Have Sex With 18-Year-Old Students

That's the decision of a three-judge panel of the Washington Court of Appeals, which on Tuesday ordered the dismissal of a case brought against Hoquiam High School's former choir teacher.

The teacher, Matthew Hirschfelder, was charged with first-degree sexual misconduct with a minor. He challenged a judge's refusal to dismiss his case. The appeals court unanimously agreed that the state law is vague, and that the Legislature only intended to forbid sexual contact between school employees and students who are 16 or 17.

Hirschfelder was 33 in 2006, at the time of the alleged relationship with the young woman. He resigned the next year.

774 reine.de.tout  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:33:01pm

re: #731 Silhouette

I'm confused. The only straight answer came from buzz?!

I just visisted this site. Check it out.

775 bulwrk  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:33:40pm

re: #764 buzzsawmonkey

Yes, with the nice, slow return action on the dial.

And make them dial a number with lots of zeros in it.

776 loppyd  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:33:44pm

re: #772 Son of the Black Dog

Treasury Secretary is over the IRS. Not paying one's taxes is probably a no-no for this position.

But team O says it's cool.

777 yma o hyd  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:33:44pm

re: #755 Soona'

(Yawn)

Oi!

You all talk about football - one little remark about my favourite sport doesn't do any damage, now does it!

778 Dustyvet  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:33:48pm

re: #767 yma o hyd

I bet he didn't use refined, polite expressions!

;-)

Your right...:)

779 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:34:02pm

bbl

780 Nevergiveup  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:34:06pm

re: #772 Son of the Black Dog

Treasury Secretary is over the IRS. Not paying one's taxes is probably a no-no for this position.

Oh I don't know about that, we are about to have a CIA head who has no INTELLIGENCE experience?

781 [deleted]  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:34:12pm
782 filetandrelease  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:34:35pm

re: #729 Iron Fist
I like to tell my PETA friends that nothings dies of old age in the ocean. Then again my truck bumper sticker usually does the trick.

PETA People for Eating Tasty Aminmals.

783 Bob Dillon  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:34:42pm

re: #707 Kosh's Shadow

It adds logarithms, which means it multiplies.
Here is a site on them
Used before the days of electronic calculators. Wearing one on the belt was the badge of a geek.
Reminds me, I still have a circular one I used in high school. When I'm famous, it will be in a museum somewhere.....

Let us not forget the venerable Curta ... [Link: www.vcalc.net...]

784 Outrider  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:34:47pm

re: #727 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

So, I am gathering that at many Lizards houses McGuyver could basically find enough crap to save the world from just about anything.

I think it is a safe bet to say there are one hell of a lot of geeks on LGF. ;-)>

And the combined knowledge pool is awesome!

785 CIA Reject  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:34:50pm

BBL

786 scottishbuzzsaw  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:35:01pm

re: #768 lifeofthemind

Everyone is feeling geeky today, Belmont Club has a thread on tiny networked sensors


That's because Geeks are Sexy...

787 Nevergiveup  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:35:09pm

re: #781 buzzsawmonkey

My father had the yellow one.

I was still using one in college.

788 Ben Hur  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:35:14pm

Behold!

Aushwitz!

[Link: www.telegraph.co.uk...]

Strange. They don't seem to fear being exterminated.

789 loppyd  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:35:15pm

re: #773 jcm

OH BLOODY HELL!

Washington Court: Teachers Can Have Sex With 18-Year-Old Students

Sounds like the legislature needs to change the law to any student, regardless of age...

790 MJ  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:35:21pm

Despite CNN, the BBC, the NYT, Boston Globe, LA Times, MSNBC News, etc.:

Voters Still Say Palestinians to Blame, But 50% Say Israel Should Accept Truce

Two weeks of military action in the Gaza Strip has done nothing to move public opinion in America.
Today, 56% of voters nationwide say that the Palestinians are to blame for the current situation in Gaza while 13% say the Israelis are at fault. Two weeks ago, a nationwide survey of adults found that 55% placed the blame on the Palestinians and 13% pointed the finger at Israel.

791 doppelganglander  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:35:44pm

re: #757 Outrider

the huge, heavy black ones? lol

There's a new commercial out for the Mormon Church in which a woman uses a rotary phone (similar to this one) to ring up God and get all the answers. (The rest of us, apparently, are supposed to talk to the operators standing by to get a free copy of the Book of Mormon.) My daughter and I thought it gave the impression that the Lord is simply not up on the latest technology, and that kids today probably want the next generation in religious communications. I think God totally should have an iPhone.

792 MJ  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:35:46pm

re: #790 MJ

Link:
[Link: www.rasmussenreports.com...]

793 Kenneth  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:35:52pm

re: #682 MandyManners

What does a slide rule do?

Has something to do with baseball, I think.

794 yma o hyd  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:35:58pm

re: #761 newsjunkie_ky

Hit refresh, I did and it changed to Izzy.
Let me know.

Yay!

Thats so sweet!
Truly cuddlesome!

795 Spare O'Lake  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:36:10pm

re: #665 buzzsawmonkey

The impressiveness was largely due to that gray crackle-finish paint on the metal housings; you knew you were in the presence of something technical and scientific.

Whatever happened to that gray crackle-finish? I'd love to see it on a laptop.

The metallic finish sure was really cool.
And the data tape spools were also magnificent. Maybe Microsoft could design an "alta cucker" mode for their next operating system.

796 lifeofthemind  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:36:12pm

re: #767 yma o hyd

I bet he didn't use refined, polite expressions!

;-)

God protects children and fools. It is unlucky to hurt them. In Chicago I walked past the Blackstone Rangers and got chinese take-out. I was safe if I went alone and ate a cookie. If I had tried to look savvy I'd have been dead.

797 loppyd  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:36:16pm

re: #788 Ben Hur

Behold!

Aushwitz!

[Link: www.telegraph.co.uk...]

Strange. They don't seem to fear being exterminated.

The dude in the leather jacket has his hands behind his back like he's watching a parade.

798 Ayatollah Ghilmeini  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:36:50pm

re: #389 CapeCoddah

Ya mean put all the cute lion cub pics in one link like this?

799 SDC  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:36:53pm

As mentioned previously, the "cannon" is actually a 14.5mm (about .60 caliber) KPV heavy machine gun, designed by Vladimirov in Russia, but manufactured around the world in the former East Block countries and their one-time allies (like Egypt). This one is mounted on an improvised anti-aircraft mount, but they're normally seen as the secondary armament on BMPs and tanks, but have also been produced in infantry and AA-specific mounts.

800 Silhouette  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:36:55pm

re: #774 reine.de.tout

I just visisted this site. Check it out.

Nifty.

I've used one, but never owned one. They handed them out on the first day of engineering, with the idea that everyone-should-know-how-to-use-these-now-go-back-to-your-calculators. We used them that day and never again.

801 jcm  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:37:27pm

re: #774 reine.de.tout

I just visisted this site. Check it out.

If you don't have a slide rule, but want to play with one.
UniVirtual Slide Rule Emulator

802 lawhawk  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:37:27pm

re: #788 Ben Hur

Behold!

Aushwitz!

[Link: www.telegraph.co.uk...]

Strange. They don't seem to fear being exterminated.

Ummm... anyone want to take a gander at that photo. Has it been edited or adjusted in some way, because I do see pixelation around the bombs.

803 Amer-I-Can  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:37:54pm

"Oops... too much ordinance to carry out, we will just have to blow it in place..." hehehe

804 yma o hyd  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:37:56pm

re: #778 Dustyvet

Your right...:)

Heh.
That figures ...

Soccer, see - and English.

I shall refrain from saying more on that subject .

:-)

805 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:38:28pm

re: #772 Son of the Black Dog

Treasury Secretary is over the IRS. Not paying one's taxes is probably a no-no for this position.

What about people in charge of writing the tax code? What about them? (Pssst. Charlie. Over here.)

806 Kenneth  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:38:34pm

re: #780 Nevergiveup

Oh I don't know about that, we are about to have a CIA head President who has no INTELLIGENCE experience

807 jcm  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:38:56pm

re: #789 loppyd

Sounds like the legislature needs to change the law to any student, regardless of age...

What every happen to case law? Where those in positions of authority over others, teachers, doctors, etc... had a different standard.

These black robe tools just tossed that.

808 Dustyvet  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:39:01pm

re: #790 MJ

Despite CNN, the BBC, the NYT, Boston Globe, LA Times, MSNBC News, etc.:

Voters Still Say Palestinians to Blame, But 50% Say Israel Should Accept Truce

Two weeks of military action in the Gaza Strip has done nothing to move public opinion in America.
Today, 56% of voters nationwide say that the Palestinians are to blame for the current situation in Gaza while 13% say the Israelis are at fault. Two weeks ago, a nationwide survey of adults found that 55% placed the blame on the Palestinians and 13% pointed the finger at Israel.

Holy Father, you have a phone call, and it's good news and bad news.

Pope: Give me the good news first!

Priest: God's calling.

Pope: and the bad news?

Priest: it's collect from Salt Lake.

809 LGoPs  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:39:03pm

re: #802 lawhawk

Ummm... anyone want to take a gander at that photo. Has it been edited or adjusted in some way, because I do see pixelation around the bombs.

Now wait a minaret......

810 doppelganglander  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:39:18pm

re: #762 KenJen

I don't suppose you could be this guy, could you?

811 Nevergiveup  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:39:33pm

re: #806 Kenneth

I guess your not a big fan of community organizers?

812 Dustyvet  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:39:50pm

re: #804 yma o hyd

Heh.
That figures ...

Soccer, see - and English.

I shall refrain from saying more on that subject .

:-)

LOL, can I have a Yorkie Bar...:)

813 reine.de.tout  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:40:09pm

re: #688 buzzsawmonkey

If you want to really blow their minds, make them use a dial phone.

I do have an old dial-phone, and when daughter was young - well, it did indeed blow her mind, particularly how slow it was compared to push-button dialing.

She also one day asked me what sort of movies we rented and watched when I was a kid LOLOLOL!

She couldn't believe it when I said we had only one TV channel, and a black and white TV - and movie rentals were unheard of!

814 DeafDog  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:40:21pm

re: #772 Son of the Black Dog

Treasury Secretary is over the IRS. Not paying one's taxes is probably a no-no for this position.

You would think the same for the Chairman of the Ways and Means Committee, too,.....but don't confuse yourself with logic.

815 loppyd  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:40:30pm

Franken going to court to get seated


Attorneys for Minnesota Democrat Al Franken said they have filed a petition with the Minnesota Supreme Court to get their candidate seated in the Senate.

The move came a day after Gov. Tim Pawlenty (R) and Minnesota Secretary of State Mark Ritchie (D) rebuffed the campaign’s request to certify Franken's election.

Franken’s lawyers are citing federal law and the Constitution, which state that the governor and secretary of state must sign off on the winner of an election, and that a state should have two senators, respectively.

816 [deleted]  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:40:37pm
817 Kenneth  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:40:45pm

re: #811 Nevergiveup

They used to be called "communist agitators" didn't they?

818 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:40:48pm

re: #808 Dustyvet

Priest: it's collect from Salt Lake; and She told me to get you right now!

819 Outrider  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:40:58pm

re: #782 filetandrelease

I like to tell my PETA friends that nothings dies of old age in the ocean. Then again my truck bumper sticker usually does the trick.

PETA People for Eating Tasty Aminmals.

bet you were one of the "Nuke the whales" bumper sticker crowd. lol

Then again there is always the , "Eat a beaver, save a tree" bumper sticker philosophy.

820 Soona'  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:41:07pm

re: #777 yma o hyd

Oi!

You all talk about football - one little remark about my favourite sport doesn't do any damage, now does it!

I never said or even insinuated that you couldn't talk about.....whatever you were talking about.
//;)

821 jcm  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:41:23pm

re: #815 loppyd

Franken going to court to get seated

To bad it's not as the defendant in a felony vote fraud case.

822 loppyd  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:41:42pm

re: #807 jcm

What every happen to case law? Where those in positions of authority over others, teachers, doctors, etc... had a different standard.

These black robe tools just tossed that.

For sexual harassment cases, yes. But I only know the MA laws.

823 Silhouette  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:41:45pm

re: #816 buzzsawmonkey

I may be going a little too apocalyptic here, but I figure that if the country really falls apart under a combined series of terror attacks, knowing how to use a slide rule will be, perhaps not as necessary in the short run as knowing how to use a gun, but necessary for rebuilding society without having to rely on batteries.

That's okay. If that happens, I'll just go to that website and learn how.

/

824 Digital Display  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:41:45pm

re: #761 newsjunkie_ky

Hit refresh, I did and it changed to Izzy.
Let me know.

Look! It's Izzy the newsjunkie!

825 jcm  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:41:55pm

re: #819 Outrider

bet you were one of the "Nuke the whales" bumper sticker crowd. lol

Then again there is always the , "Eat a beaver, save a tree" bumper sticker philosophy.

NUKE ALL THE UNBORN GAY WHALES FOR JESUS!

826 experiencedtraveller  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:42:02pm

The long threads make my tiny vista laptop SCREAM IN PAIN.

827 reine.de.tout  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:42:10pm

re: #816 buzzsawmonkey

I may be going a little too apocalyptic here, but I figure that if the country really falls apart under a combined series of terror attacks, knowing how to use a slide rule will be, perhaps not as necessary in the short run as knowing how to use a gun, but necessary for rebuilding society without having to rely on batteries.

And also, some people will need to get over being finicky about how their food gets to their tables.

828 LGoPs  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:42:13pm

re: #780 Nevergiveup

Oh I don't know about that, we are about to have a CIA head who has no INTELLIGENCE experience?

Yeah, but Sarah Palin didn't have experience either and she spent a lot of money on clothes.......so there.
///

829 Outrider  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:42:18pm

re: #791 doppelganglander

There's a new commercial out for the Mormon Church in which a woman uses a rotary phone (similar to this one) to ring up God and get all the answers. (The rest of us, apparently, are supposed to talk to the operators standing by to get a free copy of the Book of Mormon.) My daughter and I thought it gave the impression that the Lord is simply not up on the latest technology, and that kids today probably want the next generation in religious communications. I think God totally should have an iPhone.

eh, He has always been "wireless". ;-)>

830 wrenchwench  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:42:23pm

re: #816 buzzsawmonkey

I may be going a little too apocalyptic here, but I figure that if the country really falls apart under a combined series of terror attacks, knowing how to use a slide rule will be, perhaps not as necessary in the short run as knowing how to use a gun, but necessary for rebuilding society without having to rely on batteries.

My brother may be glad to hear that. He has one framed in his office (at one of our National Laboratories) with a sign underneath that says "In case of emergency, Break Glass."

831 reine.de.tout  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:42:49pm

re: #830 wrenchwench

My brother may be glad to hear that. He has one framed in his office (at one of our National Laboratories) with a sign underneath that says "In case of emergency, Break Glass."

Smart guy, your brother.

832 Occasional Reader  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:43:29pm

re: #816 buzzsawmonkey

I may be going a little too apocalyptic here, but I figure that if the country really falls apart under a combined series of terror attacks, knowing how to use a slide rule will be, perhaps not as necessary in the short run as knowing how to use a gun, but necessary for rebuilding society without having to rely on batteries.

I'll just force you at gunpoint to do all that math stuff for me, smartypants.

833 Silhouette  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:43:51pm

re: #827 reine.de.tout

And also, some people will need to get over being finicky about how their food gets to their tables.

Yes, I tell them, I know exactly what goes into a hot dog, and they're delicious.

834 [deleted]  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:44:00pm
835 Outrider  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:44:06pm

re: #813 reine.de.tout

I do have an old dial-phone, and when daughter was young - well, it did indeed blow her mind, particularly how slow it was compared to push-button dialing.

She also one day asked me what sort of movies we rented and watched when I was a kid LOLOLOL!

She couldn't believe it when I said we had only one TV channel, and a black and white TV - and movie rentals were unheard of!

I was reading the other day (no link) there are still lots of old folks out there still renting them black phones from the phone company?

836 yma o hyd  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:44:08pm

re: #812 Dustyvet

LOL, can I have a Yorkie Bar...:)

With the greatest pleasure!

837 filetandrelease  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:44:16pm

re: #819 Outrider

Nah, I just find PETA particularly annoying. "Got Beer" and all their nonsense. If they got their way most of the people in the world would starve.

838 Nevergiveup  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:44:23pm

re: #817 Kenneth

They used to be called "communist agitators" didn't they?

Fellow travelers.

839 wrenchwench  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:44:25pm

re: #831 reine.de.tout

Smart guy, your brother.

Yeah, maybe. He also gave me one for my birthday, 35 years ago tomorrow....

840 loppyd  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:45:32pm

Have I mentioned lately how much I loathe Huckleberry Hound?

Via Hot Air

Oh my: Couric and Gibson were perfectly fair to Palin, says Huckabee


Huckabee, diplomatic and biblical, says the Alaskan governor “energized” the party. I ask him if she was treated fairly by the media. “There were a lot of unfair things. Sexist things that would never have been asked of a male candidate.” He pauses. “Now I must say I did not think that either the Charlie Gibson interview or the Katie Couric interviews were unfair. In fact, if anything, Katie Couric was extraordinarily gentle, even helpful. [Palin] just…I don’t know what happened. I can’t explain it. It was not a good interview. I’m being charitable.”
841 lifeofthemind  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:45:39pm

re: #816 buzzsawmonkey

I may be going a little too apocalyptic here, but I figure that if the country really falls apart under a combined series of terror attacks, knowing how to use a slide rule will be, perhaps not as necessary in the short run as knowing how to use a gun, but necessary for rebuilding society without having to rely on batteries.

If things get bad transistors will not work, one of the many many many bad things that happened to the US Navy is that they got rid of the Signalmen rating. Flags and morse code and semaphore will work when nothing else does.

842 Creeping Eruption  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:46:12pm

re: #837 filetandrelease

Nah, I just find PETA particularly annoying. "Got Beer" and all their nonsense. If they got their way most of the people in the world would starve.

Peta and Beer?! Everyone knows that Peta goes best with a nice Chardonnay.

843 yma o hyd  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:46:16pm

re: #820 Soona'

I never said or even insinuated that you couldn't talk about.....whatever you were talking about.
//;)

Good-oh!

If it was all gobbledegook to you, I'd be happy to explain!

:-))

844 Outrider  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:46:35pm

re: #833 Silhouette

Yes, I tell them, I know exactly what goes into a hot dog, and they're delicious.

same here. definitely not fussy about what goes on my plate, how it is made, or even if I have a plate.

Only caveat, I prefer it to not still be moving. ;-)>

845 reine.de.tout  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:47:06pm

re: #835 Outrider

I was reading the other day (no link) there are still lots of old folks out there still renting them black phones from the phone company?

My grandmother had one of those phones.

It was some kinda heavy. Would have made a great weapon, if you had need of something to throw at somebody.

The receiver alone was heavy to hold. I wish I knew just how much the entire thing weighed.

846 Occasional Reader  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:47:16pm

re: #834 buzzsawmonkey

Then you're really in trouble. I've always been terrible at math.

You'll get better as I switch to menacing you with successively heavier calibers.

847 Efoster  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:48:38pm

Guys, really. It's not a bad thing to have an AA gun in a religious structure. They use it for when they do their yearly concerts. Didn't you know it's the best thing to use for the Overture of 1812.

-Sorry, I just choked on my words....even I don't buy that.

848 formercorpsman  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:48:40pm

re: #791 doppelganglander

There's a new commercial out for the Mormon Church in which a woman uses a rotary phone (similar to this one) to ring up God and get all the answers. (The rest of us, apparently, are supposed to talk to the operators standing by to get a free copy of the Book of Mormon.) My daughter and I thought it gave the impression that the Lord is simply not up on the latest technology, and that kids today probably want the next generation in religious communications. I think God totally should have an iPhone.

Hey, I am not picking on anyone Mormon, but you have to admit, that is pretty damn funny.

849 jcm  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:48:49pm

re: #816 buzzsawmonkey

I may be going a little too apocalyptic here, but I figure that if the country really falls apart under a combined series of terror attacks, knowing how to use a slide rule will be, perhaps not as necessary in the short run as knowing how to use a gun, but necessary for rebuilding society without having to rely on batteries.

David Gelernter, Comp Sci prof at Yale (uni-bomber victim) stresses first principals, and doesn't like the early introduction of calculators and computer to students. He thinks, (and I agree) we need to understand whats going on inside the box, before we should use the box. Essentially it's a critical thinking argument, you have to be able to know the box is giving you a reasonable answer. That box is tool to make life easier, not replacing thinking about what's happening.

850 Son of the Black Dog  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:48:55pm

re: #816 buzzsawmonkey

I may be going a little too apocalyptic here, but I figure that if the country really falls apart under a combined series of terror attacks, knowing how to use a slide rule will be, perhaps not as necessary in the short run as knowing how to use a gun, but necessary for rebuilding society without having to rely on batteries.

Or after an EMP attack.

851 lifeofthemind  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:49:21pm

re: #834 buzzsawmonkey

Then you're really in trouble. I've always been terrible at math.

I use digital technology to do math

waves fingers

852 [deleted]  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:49:57pm
853 Soona'  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:50:40pm

re: #827 reine.de.tout

And also, some people will need to get over being finicky about how their food gets to their tables.

And the type of food that gets to their tables.

854 Spare O'Lake  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:51:03pm

re: #764 buzzsawmonkey

Yes, with the nice, slow return action on the dial.

Oh yeah man, and the accompanying mechanical whirring sound.

855 lifeofthemind  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:51:23pm

re: #849 jcm

David Gelernter, Comp Sci prof at Yale (uni-bomber victim) stresses first principals, and doesn't like the early introduction of calculators and computer to students. He thinks, (and I agree) we need to understand whats going on inside the box, before we should use the box. Essentially it's a critical thinking argument, you have to be able to know the box is giving you a reasonable answer. That box is tool to make life easier, not replacing thinking about what's happening.

My troops could do micro mini repair on the fire control computer, they knew what made the radar work. Now things go down and they send out for a part.

856 notutopia  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:52:40pm

re: #799 SDC

As mentioned previously, the "cannon" is actually a 14.5mm (about .60 caliber) KPV heavy machine gun, designed by Vladimirov in Russia, but manufactured around the world in the former East Block countries and their one-time allies (like Egypt). This one is mounted on an improvised anti-aircraft mount, but they're normally seen as the secondary armament on BMPs and tanks, but have also been produced in infantry and AA-specific mounts.

Pix please. Who is still making .60 cal ammo?

857 doppelganglander  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:53:16pm

re: #848 formercorpsman

Hey, I am not picking on anyone Mormon, but you have to admit, that is pretty damn funny.

I thought so. I do hope no Mormon lizards are offended.

858 Dustyvet  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:53:44pm

re: #836 yma o hyd

With the greatest pleasure!

Banging on computer trying to get the hard drive to spit out...:) Thanks you made my day.:)

859 exredtory  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:54:31pm

re: #757 Outrider

the huge, heavy black ones? lol

Hey, I still use mine at home ("from my cold, dead hands") - but it is a bit of a handicap when I reach locations that don't have the "stay online for a representative" option. Then

I use my cell.

Had a tradesman in once who needed to use my phone, and was flummoxed for a moment when confronted by the dial.

I still have my dad's old slide rule, too

860 KenJen  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:55:37pm

re: #810 doppelganglander

I don't suppose you could be this guy, could you?

Nope. Just a girl named Jen who lives in Kentucky.

861 buzzdroid  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 1:56:54pm

GAZACAM - ROOSTER IS EARLY!

must be getting in quick before the IDF fireworks start.

862 Kosh's Shadow  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 2:00:14pm

re: #783 Bobibutu

Let us not forget the venerable Curta ... [Link: www.vcalc.net...]

I friend of mine has one of those. It saved the designer from the gas chambers; he designed in a concentration camp. There was a Scientific American article on it a while ago

863 Marvo76  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 2:02:56pm

re: #780 Nevergiveup

Oh I don't know about that, we are about to have a CIA head who has no INTELLIGENCE experience?

That is just about eveyone in his cabinet isn't it?

864 Marvo76  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 2:08:38pm

re: #815 loppyd

Franken going to court to get seated

"But Judge, I cheated fair and square and they still won't let me have my way!" WAAAAA

865 Colonel Panik  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 2:19:49pm

re: #856 notutopia

Pix please. Who is still making .60 cal ammo?

That thing is the Communist Bloc equivalent of a Browning M-2 "Ma Deuce" .50 cal and was widely used among Warsaw Pact and Asian communist countries. I'd imagine ammo in that caliber is still being produced in Russia, "People's" China, L'il Kim's Hermit Kingdom, and a number of East European countries that may still field machineguns in that caliber.

866 SDC  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 2:23:43pm

re: #856 notutopia

Pix please. Who is still making .60 cal ammo?

You can see pics of the PKP (infantry) and ZPU (anti-aircraft) versions of the KPV at [Link: world.guns.ru...] ; this is a heavy machine gun chambered for the 14.5x115mm Soviet round, and 14.5mm translates to .57/100ths of an inch

867 SDC  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 2:27:17pm

Actually, the Soviets had TWO heavy machine guns for specific uses; one was the 12.7x108mm DShK (and it's simplified version, the DShKM), and the other is the 14.5x115mm KPV/KPVM seen above. Both of these were developed before WW2, and versions of both are still in current production.

868 suitepotato  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 2:31:18pm

Islam is a warrior's religion so using human shields, martyrdom, putting weapons in mosques, these are not too surprising and most of the people ignoring these news reports have at least a subliminal sense of that, so their reaction remains, "so what".

If you're a sci-fi type and having flashbacks to you know not what, go re-read Dune. Remember the reports made by the Harkonnen and Sardaukar about the Fremen under Paul. Every last man woman and child fighting for G-d is still held privately in many quarters to be the greatest thing. It's an absolutist and nihilist sense, but it's also entirely human which is why it is so frightening. You can see exactly where the thinking that leads to it starts and why it is so hard to resist.

869 Render  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 2:42:50pm

re: #856 notutopia

Egypt, China, and Romania, among others.

Since they all still heavily use the KPV/ZPU series 14.5mm guns, it would stand to reason that they would still make the ammo for them.

Considering how many other third world nations and terrorist groups that are still using the KPV/ZPU series, there is a market for the ammo.

If you search my nic on this thread, you'll find several pics...

As heavy machine guns go, the KPV/ZPU series really isn't all that old. It was designed in 1949 and remained in Soviet first line service right up until the early 1980's.

The round breach is the biggest tell-tale.

REALLY,
R

870 Render  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 2:51:28pm

re: #129 subsailor68

Another interesting piece of trivia...

The ME-109's last known combat operations were flown by the Israeli Air Force in 1948. It was called the S-199 in IAF service and was a flying death trap.

CRAZY
WORLD,
R

871 Green Helmet Guy  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 3:04:44pm

re: #551 jaunte

One relates that the Ramadan cannon dates back to 859 AH (Hijri), when the ruler of Egypt was busy toying with his new cannon in the open courtyard atop the Citadel overlooking Cairo. The cannon went off accidentally and a loud boom reverberated everywhere. It was Ramadan at sunset.


Now that's pretty funny:

And that my friends was one of the first "Work accidents" in Islamic history. However...it would not be the last...

872 So?  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 3:40:49pm

re: #38 DaddyG

Q. What do you call a Mosque with an Anti-aircraft Cannon?

A. Target aquired!

Mosquito

/you know how pesky they can be

873 JamesW  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 3:56:33pm

Praise the Lord and pass the ammunition!

874 Grandma  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 4:51:44pm

Not for nuttin’, a mosque translates to me anymore as an armory. And if the Gazan citizens permit these Islamic Gangbangers (Hamas) to store their explosives, munitions, drugs, guns, and other booty, etc. in their mosques, homes and schools, they are no less “innocent” than their counterparts here in the U.S. who allow themselves in so many of our inner cities to be ruled by the Crips, Bloods, Latin Kings, MS-13, Mongols, Hell’s Angels, etc. They’re not innocent because they’re all looking for something from those rotten groups for their own gain, a gain which they cannot figure out for themselves. Well that’s just unfortunate for them. They chose Hamas.

They’ve all sent their little boys (I guess they don't make little girls) in parades with black and green costumes and hateful chants and toy guns to promote the violence. Now, they want to be “innocent”. I don’t think so. And as far as “humanitarian aid” goes, first I want to find a real decent human being there that has earned that compassion. Then I'll buy into the humanitarian aid. I’ll not be standing on tiptoe waiting for that to appear. C’mon, Mainstream Media, get real, for crying out tears, and expose these gangbangers and their supporters in/and the population for who they really are.

So thanks for listening to Grandma’s version of anger tonight, and have a nice day.

875 Acidtrash  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 4:59:15pm
876 Thin Blue Line  Tue, Jan 13, 2009 9:54:05pm

Picnic Directions:

Turn left at the bottom of the stairs near the cannon, and then a quick right near the ammo boxes. Just push the Ak's aside and place the fruit salad on the table.

877 tyree  Wed, Jan 14, 2009 6:22:36am

That is what winds up on the donation plate in the religion of peace. Kind of like poker chips in Las Vegas churches. So don't show a lack of respect for their culture (of death).


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