Top US Communication Studies Mailing List Publishes David Duke Article

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Posted yesterday at the moderated listserv of the National Communication Association, one of the two top organizations for scholars in the field of Communication: an antisemitic diatribe by David Duke. And unless someone is using his name, this disgusting article was posted by “racialist” writer Lawrence Auster—who has viciously attacked me for my opposition to European fascists.

Liberal academics, white supremacists, and “anti-jihadists.” One big happy family.

(Hat tip: Mere Rhetoric.)

UPDATE at 1/16/09 10:30:14 am:

An update at Mere Rhetoric: Mere Rhetoric: Top US Communication Listserv: Hey, How About Some Anti-Israel David Duke Pamphlets?

UPDATE 2009-01-16 - CRTNET is now claiming that they’re an unmoderated listserv. That’s a little weird since they have “submission guidelines” that emphasize professional standards and civility. It’s also going to be news to Penn State and the University of Iowa and the University of Oklahoma since they, like me, are under the impression that it’s a moderated listserv just like it’s always been.

UPDATE at 1/16/09 3:17:05 pm:

According to an email we received, Auster was the victim of an impersonation in this case, and did not post the Duke article to the listserv. We still have the issue of how it was approved for the list, however.

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132 comments

lawhawk Fri, Jan 16, 2009 9:17:07am

There are none so blind as those who choose not to see.

Killgore Trout Fri, Jan 16, 2009 9:20:15am

I doubt Auster was nicjacked, he published his contact info with the article.

itellu3times Fri, Jan 16, 2009 9:20:32am

Lawrence Auster, [log in to unmask]
You Want Proof of the Zionist Control of Congress - Here it is!

On January 9th the U.S. Congress passed House Resolution 34 in support of the Zionist Terrorist Massacre in Gaza, a loss of life for Palestine proportionate to one thousand 9-11 attacks on America!

By David Duke

What does "log in to unmask" mean? It's already signed by David Duke.

Zionist control of Congress ... gawd, how I wish someone were in control of Congress ...

x-wing Fri, Jan 16, 2009 9:20:50am

racialist? Are the "racists" jumping on the PC bandwagon now?

pegcity Fri, Jan 16, 2009 9:21:42am

Charles didn't you get the memo Antisemitic is hip again, its 1938 baby

Guanxi88 Fri, Jan 16, 2009 9:21:49am

Is anybody watching anything over there, or did it pass because it condemned the right people?

Age Of Freedom Fri, Jan 16, 2009 9:22:20am

It's gotta be by David Duke. Damn, what a vermin of an "article".

Opinionated Fri, Jan 16, 2009 9:22:21am

Anti Semitism is everywhere these days.

You can not even read a stock market message board on Yahoo without encountering [off topic] anti semitic diatribes.

But here is what is the glaring part: with even public calls on American streets for violence against Jews, no media outlet or person in
Governmental authority has chosen to comment and criticise.

Bad times are coming.

Sharmuta Fri, Jan 16, 2009 9:22:27am

Lest we forget:

When David Duke attended an Euro-Rus conference in Dendermonde, Belgium, he stayed the weekend with a local Vlaams Belang council member. The council member, Karin Milik, and her husband Thierry De Rijcke (the personal bodyguard of party leader Filip deWinter) are close personal friends of David Duke.

What are the odds?!

Bloodnok Fri, Jan 16, 2009 9:22:50am

So are these more "imaginary" enemies, RS n' Pam? Huh?

midwestgak Fri, Jan 16, 2009 9:22:55am

He's got it right. If you are upside down.

subsailor68 Fri, Jan 16, 2009 9:23:10am

Sorry to go OT so soon, but for fans of Horace Rumpole, this is a sad day:

‘Rumpole of the Bailey’ creator dead at 85

John Mortimer may have been a bit of a leftist, but a world with no new Rumpole stories is a sadder place.

I liked this quote from the article:

His legal career took in everything from divorce cases to murders — and he said he preferred the latter.

“Matrimonial clients hate each other so much and use their children to hurt each other in beastly ways,” he once said. “Murderers have usually killed the one person in the world that was bugging them and they're usually quite peaceful and agreeable.”

R.I.P.

Guanxi88 Fri, Jan 16, 2009 9:23:42am

re: #9 Sharmuta

Lest we forget:

What are the odds?!

Eh, maybe they were neighbors? Maybe their kids went to the same schools? I don't think we can conclude anything about any of the people you named based SOLELY on the fact that they move together in such limited circles.

DistantThunder Fri, Jan 16, 2009 9:24:17am

David Duke is probably happy to be part of any group that will have him considering he is such an outcast here in America.

Ojoe Fri, Jan 16, 2009 9:24:28am

Don't these guys know about "I will bless them that bless thee and curse them that curse thee"?

Sharmuta Fri, Jan 16, 2009 9:26:01am

More David Duke ♥ euro-fascists.

ORD neighbor Fri, Jan 16, 2009 9:26:34am

Political spectrum often as a circle, not as a line.

Kosh's Shadow Fri, Jan 16, 2009 9:26:35am

Who's the moderator of this list? Goebbels?
"Communications studies" - related to what passes for "journalism" today, isn't it? They probably already were thinking the same things, even the Jewish reporters.

My hope is that the public has better sense, and that might be the case the way newspaper circulation is dropping faster than Bill Clinton's pants.

Jetpilot1101 Fri, Jan 16, 2009 9:27:48am

re: #3 itellu3times

What does "log in to unmask" mean? It's already signed by David Duke.

Zionist control of Congress ... gawd, how I wish someone were in control of Congress ...

I second that. David Duke should be happy that the "Zionists" are in control of Congress because it means his archenemy is a body of morons, imbeciles, idiots, incompetents, buffoons, (shall I go on?). Hey David, this is currently what resides in Congress, should be pretty easy to defeat don't ya think?

jwb7605 Fri, Jan 16, 2009 9:28:11am

re: #17 ORD neighbor

Political spectrum ~~often~~ as a circle, not as a line.

My sentiments for the last 25 years.
I ignored politics up to that point.

Sharmuta Fri, Jan 16, 2009 9:28:50am

re: #13 Guanxi88

There's quite a bit of evidence based on various recurring themes.

maddogg Fri, Jan 16, 2009 9:29:17am

re: #18 Kosh's Shadow

My hope is that the public has better sense

That hope is pretty thin. Common sense has grown most uncommon, as it is incompatible with moonbat thought and ideals.

karmic_inquisitor Fri, Jan 16, 2009 9:29:17am

So does the National Communications Society publish a "word of the day?"

If they do, today's should be "Asshole"

Last Mohican Fri, Jan 16, 2009 9:29:39am

There is no more consistent theme in human history than this: few ideas, beliefs, or values can unite people and bring them together the way an intense, violent hatred of Jews can.

jwb7605 Fri, Jan 16, 2009 9:29:51am

re: #21 Sharmuta

There's quite a bit of evidence based on various recurring themes.

you calling Cog?
(I don't disagree)

Texas Heathen Fri, Jan 16, 2009 9:29:58am

re: #18 Kosh's Shadow

My hope is that the public has better sense, and that might be the case the way newspaper circulation is dropping faster than Bill Clinton's pants.

ROTFLMAO

Opinionated Fri, Jan 16, 2009 9:31:58am

Without the universal acknowledgement- the way Duke is acknowledged- the anti Semitic motivated opinions of Carter and Buchanan and Mearsheimer and Walt and Brzezinski and so many others- are more damaging.

realwest Fri, Jan 16, 2009 9:32:05am

re: #16 Sharmuta
Hey Sharm - thanks for posting that - I hearted it cause I keep forgetting where it is.
There are "counter-jihadists" who should be hanging their heads in shame right now.
You could argue (unsuccesfully imo) that some of the WN groups in Europe aren't really "facists" or "Anti-Semites" - but NO ONE WITH ONE FUNCTIONING BRAN CELL could say that about David Duke. Or support those who support David Duke.

subsailor68 Fri, Jan 16, 2009 9:32:43am

David Duke's a dick,
His politics are sick,
His racist take,
Make no mistake,
Means he's a giant....

Waste of oxygen.

notutopia Fri, Jan 16, 2009 9:32:46am

Sick. Sick. Sick and twisted minds of evil men.

This Duke Org. article was submitted by Lawrence Auster in requests asking for sharing info on:
Assignments for Intercultural Communication, Mabry O'Donnell
Mabry M. O'Donnell, Ph.D.
Hillyer Professor of Literature, Rhetoric, and Oratory
McCoy Professor of Communication
Marietta College

I wonder if she actually used this info in her lectures?

Also, Note the P.S.
at the end of the article......
-David Duke [Link: www.davidduke.com...]

yma o hyd Fri, Jan 16, 2009 9:32:58am

re: #24 Last Mohican

There is no more consistent theme in human history than this: few ideas, beliefs, or values can unite people and bring them together the way an intense, violent hatred of Jews can.

Just so.

And regardless of how this war in Gaza ends, or when: the one thing i am grateful for, in an odd way, is that it has brought the antisemites out of their hidey-holes.
We now know who they are, where they are and how many of them there are.
They've dropped their masks - now we can see whom to fight against!

DistantThunder Fri, Jan 16, 2009 9:33:24am

OT parade magazine has Obama's letter to his daughters.

What kind of person divulges his personal correspondence with his young daughters?

Self aggrandizing.

Kragar Fri, Jan 16, 2009 9:33:45am

I love how racist assholes like DD will suddenly find a reason to support the Palis if it means he can attack Jews.

Digital Display Fri, Jan 16, 2009 9:34:04am

re: #28 realwest

Hey Sharm - thanks for posting that - I hearted it cause I keep forgetting where it is.
There are "counter-jihadists" who should be hanging their heads in shame right now.
You could argue (unsuccesfully imo) that some of the WN groups in Europe aren't really "facists" or "Anti-Semites" - but NO ONE WITH ONE FUNCTIONING BRAN CELL could say that about David Duke. Or support those who support David Duke.

bran cells with milk is good in the morning..

Last Mohican Fri, Jan 16, 2009 9:34:08am

re: #8 Opinionated

But here is what is the glaring part: with even public calls on American streets for violence against Jews, no media outlet or person in
Governmental authority has chosen to comment and criticise.

Bad times are coming.

Not only will anyone comment or criticize... I think underlying that indifference is the presupposition that this violent hatred is perfectly reasonable. When someone demonstrates in Manhattan holding a sign that says "kill all the Jews," the general reaction is "well, of course he feels that way, look at the horrible things the Jews are doing in the Middle East."

In past (and sometimes in the present) it was "well of course he feels that way, the Jews killed Jesus." Or "the Jews caused the bubonic plague." Or "the Jews control all the banks and steal everyone's money." Or "the Jews kill babies and drink their blood."

If the same sign had said "kill all the n*ggers," you can bet that nobody would be rationalizing reasons why it's okay to feel that way.

Indeed, bad times are coming.

scottishbuzzsaw Fri, Jan 16, 2009 9:34:35am

re: #31 yma o hyd

Just so.

And regardless of how this war in Gaza ends, or when: the one thing i am grateful for, in an odd way, is that it has brought the antisemites out of their hidey-holes.
We now know who they are, where they are and how many of them there are.
They've dropped their masks - now we can see whom to fight against!

Excellent point, yma...though it has been a shock to see it so widespread in this day and age.

wrenchwench Fri, Jan 16, 2009 9:34:59am

What is Penn State's responsibility in this? I see they are also hosting Arun Gandhi.

University Park, Pa. — Honoring Rev. Martin Luther King Jr.'s legacy of service and compassion, and remembering the words of a 1959 speech King gave to a group of 26,000 students marching in support of equal rights, the 2009 Martin Luther King commemoration at Penn State's University Park campus urges everyone to "Make a Career of Humanity."
The Jan. 12-23 events of celebration and remembrance commemorating King's memory will feature Arun Gandhi, peace activist and grandson of Mahatma Gandhi, as keynote speaker for the Martin Luther King Evening Celebration, which will be held from 6-8 p.m. on Wednesday, Jan. 21, at Eisenhower Auditorium.

realwest Fri, Jan 16, 2009 9:35:30am

re: #34 HoosierHoops
Thanks Hoops.
In the future I'll make sure to PIMF and to read your posts more carefully.

Opinionated Fri, Jan 16, 2009 9:35:54am

As an antidote to Duke, read what Mark Twain wrote more then 100 years ago.

Concerning The Jews

[Link: www.fordham.edu...]

formercorpsman Fri, Jan 16, 2009 9:35:59am

re: #32 DistantThunder

Without a doubt.

They are doing their best to create the next Camelot.

Again, this clown comes out of nowhere, and they are ready to declare him an f'n saint.

karmic_inquisitor Fri, Jan 16, 2009 9:36:00am

BTW - Fresh evidence published in WSJ of Iran trying to skirt sanctions to beef up its Nuclear Weapons program.

Looks like other Gulf states are providing the US with intelligence.

J.S. Fri, Jan 16, 2009 9:36:43am

Oh, the irony. And there's a prof in Missouri who's asking for a "syllabus for a course on Hate Speech or Hateful/Hurtful Speech".

Dainn Fri, Jan 16, 2009 9:36:48am

David Duke should thank the "Zionists" for keeping his delusion relevent.

The rhetoric in that message sounds like something you would hear at a KKK thinktank.

Digital Display Fri, Jan 16, 2009 9:36:50am

re: #38 realwest

Thanks Hoops.
In the future I'll make sure to PIMF and to read your posts more carefully.

My H key is going out on my laptop.. Every single post i have to check for missing H's.
Good afternoon RW!

Kragar Fri, Jan 16, 2009 9:37:05am

re: #37 wrenchwench

What is Penn State's responsibility in this? I see they are also hosting Arun Gandhi.

Arun Gandhi is an anti-semitic POS whose only taken as relevant because of his Grandfather.

karmic_inquisitor Fri, Jan 16, 2009 9:37:40am

re: #44 HoosierHoops

My H key is going out on my laptop.. Every single post i have to check for missing H's.
Good afternoon RW!

Tat sucks oosier oops.

Kosh's Shadow Fri, Jan 16, 2009 9:37:46am

re: #45 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Arun Gandhi is an anti-semitic POS whose only taken as relevant because of his Grandfather.

Who was also an anti-Semite.

General Nimrod Bodfish Fri, Jan 16, 2009 9:37:56am

OT, but does anyone have a working Roostercam link? The one I have isn't working now for some reason.

midwestgak Fri, Jan 16, 2009 9:37:57am

re: #32 DistantThunder

OT parade magazine has Obama's letter to his daughters.

What kind of person divulges his personal correspondence with his young daughters?

Self aggrandizing.

The same kind of person who divulges his paper message placed in a stone Wall.

Jetpilot1101 Fri, Jan 16, 2009 9:38:33am

re: #44 HoosierHoops

My H key is going out on my laptop.. Every single post i have to check for missing H's.
Good afternoon RW!

Do you have a MacBook? I own one, love the machine but I have to mash on the H key to make sure it types.

Sharmuta Fri, Jan 16, 2009 9:38:57am

re: #25 jwb7605

you calling Cog?
(I don't disagree)

No- there is a lot of evidence to show vlaams belang is not the good intentioned saviors of europe some other bloggers think they are:

Vlaams Belang

abolitionist Fri, Jan 16, 2009 9:39:23am

That's a "JEWISH STATE," not a multicultural or multireligious state, but a state exclusively dedicated to Jews. The controlled media had not a word in criticism of the resolution supporting Israel as an ethnic and religious state exclusively dedicated to Jews!

Dear Kaffir Duke:

Please re-check your mail for that once-in-a-lifetime invitation to visit Mekkah, ok? Probably just an oversight that it hasn't arrived yet.

Dark_Falcon Fri, Jan 16, 2009 9:39:48am

The Democrats started as the party of the KKK. If they let David Duke publish on their lists, the liberals owning the lists will have brought their party full circle and in so doing will validate Michael Savage's name for them: Demonrats.

winston06 Fri, Jan 16, 2009 9:41:10am

I am not so sure if 1st Amend. is a good thing for Hitler like people

itellu3times Fri, Jan 16, 2009 9:41:25am

re: #12 subsailor68

Did you see Patrick McGoohan also died a few days ago?

Ricardo Montalban got all the press.

RIP, #6.

Dainn Fri, Jan 16, 2009 9:41:33am

re: #51 Sharmuta

No- there is a lot of evidence to show vlaams belang is not the good intentioned saviors of europe some other bloggers think they are:

Vlaams Belang

Dead on. The saving grace is that VB's talking points are so often undermined by their members' own careless interviews: racism will out.

[deleted] Fri, Jan 16, 2009 9:41:46am

Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Jan 16, 2009 9:42:15am

I thought David Duke stopped being a racist.

Digital Display Fri, Jan 16, 2009 9:42:18am

re: #50 Jetpilot1101

Do you have a MacBook? I own one, love the machine but I have to mash on the H key to make sure it types.

What is it about the H key?
I've got a dual core Dell..Instead of the H key I think I'll just use the * key.

wrenchwench Fri, Jan 16, 2009 9:43:44am

re: #45 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Arun Gandhi is an anti-semitic POS whose only taken as relevant because of his Grandfather.

Exactly.

Dainn Fri, Jan 16, 2009 9:43:50am

Beware extremist organizations that try to appear moderate.

Digital Display Fri, Jan 16, 2009 9:43:57am

re: #55 itellu3times

Did you see Patrick McGoohan also died a few days ago?

Ricardo Montalban got all the press.

RIP, #6.

I think he really made the movie braveheart awesome...
/ Well really the French princess was totally awesome also.

subsailor68 Fri, Jan 16, 2009 9:43:59am

re: #55 itellu3times

Did you see Patrick McGoohan also died a few days ago?

Ricardo Montalban got all the press.

RIP, #6.

I did see about Patrick McGoohan...also sad. The only comfort is, in Mortimer's case we have Rumpole (books and series) and in McGoohan's case we have film and television (e.g. Braveheart).

Godspeed to both of them.

Sharmuta Fri, Jan 16, 2009 9:44:05am

Charles- if a man is judged by his enemies, then you're a great man indeed.

Dainn Fri, Jan 16, 2009 9:44:48am

re: #58 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I thought David Duke stopped being a racist.

/

Yeah. I think I heard that on Donahue years ago. He's more of a civil rights personality now. //

Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Jan 16, 2009 9:45:20am

This may sound silly, but I am beginning to miss the days of the Bush Administration.

notutopia Fri, Jan 16, 2009 9:45:41am

re: #64 Sharmuta

Charles- if a man is judged by his enemies, then you're a great man indeed.

Amen Sharmuta.
{Charles}

maddogg Fri, Jan 16, 2009 9:46:38am

re: #54 winston06

I am not so sure if 1st Amend. is a good thing for Hitler like people

Sure it is. Makes keeping track of enemies of humanity sure and simple.

Digital Display Fri, Jan 16, 2009 9:47:22am

re: #64 Sharmuta

Charles- if a man is judged by his enemies, then you're a great man indeed.

I know one thing.. I checked out Charles on Wiki and had no idea he was such an awesome jazz guitarist.. 29 albums? totally cool.. I want to live my life vicariously through Charles..:)

jcm Fri, Jan 16, 2009 9:47:35am

Closing date for Gitmo is slipping.....re: #65 Dainn

Yeah. I think I heard that on Donahue years ago. He's more of a civil rights personality now. //

Just like the Grand Keagel Robert Byrd!

realwest Fri, Jan 16, 2009 9:47:51am

re: #54 winston06 Interesting point. However I fully support the First Amendment - even, perhaps especially where nut jobs - dangerous nut jobs even - like David Duke get their views heard.
I'm convinced that Thomas Jefferson was right about it all when he said he valued the free marketplace of ideas where people could evaluate all points of view.
Besides, who would you suggest gets the right to decide who gets the protection of the First Amendment?

[deleted] Fri, Jan 16, 2009 9:48:18am

[deleted] Fri, Jan 16, 2009 9:48:53am

Son of the Black Dog Fri, Jan 16, 2009 9:49:21am

re: #44 HoosierHoops

My H key is going out on my laptop.. Every single post i have to check for missing H's.
Good afternoon RW!

Shouldn't be a problem. Just learn to type in a Cockney accent.

Dark_Falcon Fri, Jan 16, 2009 9:49:28am

re: #66 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

This may sound silly, but I am beginning to miss the days of the Bush Administration.

It's not silly. We are about to enter into 4 years of an administration that will not even pretend to listen to people like us unless it absolutely has to. The left has power in this country such as it has not had since the 1970's. We're not screwed, but we are going to spend at least the next 2 years getting beaten about the head and shoulders.

[deleted] Fri, Jan 16, 2009 9:50:16am

jcm Fri, Jan 16, 2009 9:50:17am

re: #70 jcm

Closing date for Gitmo is slipping.....

Just like the Grand Keagel Robert Byrd!

Mixing up my comments.

Pfft.

bulwrk Fri, Jan 16, 2009 9:50:18am

re: #53 Dark_Falcon

If they let David Duke publish on their lists, the liberals owning the lists will have brought their party full circle

That would imply that they actually ever changed.They have never stopped being racist they're just more nuanced about it.

itellu3times Fri, Jan 16, 2009 9:50:27am

re: #63 subsailor68

McGoohan - The Prisoner. Acted in two Columbo episodes, directed most of the 1980s/90s ones. Secret Agent Man. Turned down the James Bond role before they gave it to Sean Connery.

Silhouette Fri, Jan 16, 2009 9:50:33am

re: #49 midwestgak

The same kind of person who divulges his paper message placed in a stone Wall.

Which speaks to exactly the comment I was about to make.

The Bible speaks of people who pray loudly on the street corners, and says instead we should pray quietly in our closets. The point being that those on the street corners aren't interested in talking to God, but in having everyone around them see them being such 'good, religious' people.

Likewise, a man who publishes his letter to his daughters isn't so much interested in parenting as he is getting praise from everyone who sees him for being such a 'good and loving' parent.

Vicious Babushka Fri, Jan 16, 2009 9:50:36am

Who still reads listservs? That is like, so 1990's.

subsailor68 Fri, Jan 16, 2009 9:51:38am

re: #73 Iron Fist

At least as Americans, almost alone in all the world, you have the advantage of being armed, with the cost of getting what you want being the main barrier to entry at least up to a certain point. If you've got the money to spend, chances are you can get what you want unless what you want is extremely exotic.

Certainly you can get .50 sniper rifles and belt-fed machineguns without much effort other than scaring up the cash. Pistols and rifles are even easier to come across. There really is no excuse for not having a reasonable minimal arsenal in most of the country.

Amen to that. Just yesterday, three friends and I made a trip to Bass Pro. I bought all the 9mm, .38 cal, 12 ga., 16 ga., .22 long rifle, 30-06, .410 ga. I could get my hands on. (Friends took care of the .40 cal, .45 cal, and .223).

itellu3times Fri, Jan 16, 2009 9:51:54am

re: #81 Alouette

Who still reads listservs? That is like, so 1990's.

What else can I do with this here acoustic coupler?

Former Belgian Fri, Jan 16, 2009 9:52:05am

Laurence Auster was actually born Jewish (he converted to Episcopalianism): he is a cousin of the novelist Paul Auster.

Actually, Wikipedia claims he has criticized paleocons like Pate Pukecannon for antisemitism in the past...

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

Is there no chance at all that Auster sent this as "an example of the antisemitic tripe peddled by David POS Duke"?

There are unfortunately enough Jewish antisemites out there that we should be careful not to invent new ones.

realwest Fri, Jan 16, 2009 9:52:21am

re: #35 Last Mohican
Methinks the bad times arrived on November 4th, 2008. We just don't know yet HOW bad those times will be.
BTW, I'm always leery of taking a few street protesters as evidence of anything but their own idiocy. Most rational and intelligent folks are too busy working (or these days trying to find work) to participate in such bullshit.

Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Jan 16, 2009 9:52:32am

I am totally serious. Looked at the top ten and there was a short and sweet from Charles...from the final speech thread. Simply said, "Well done, President Bush". I got a lump in my throat.

With all his failings, I don't remember a president who tried any harder.

Former Belgian Fri, Jan 16, 2009 9:52:41am

re: #72 buzzsawmonkey

My point exactly, Buzz.

Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Jan 16, 2009 9:52:50am

BBL

Silhouette Fri, Jan 16, 2009 9:52:52am

re: #55 itellu3times

Did you see Patrick McGoohan also died a few days ago?

Ricardo Montalban got all the press.

RIP, #6.

Jim Henson died the same day as Sammy Davis, Jr. And Sammy got all the press. Nothing against Mr. Davis, but I consider that backwards. You can walk into almost any store or home in America and see evidence of Henson's life work.

lawhawk Fri, Jan 16, 2009 9:53:23am

All Obama statements come with an expiration date. All Obama statements about anything are subject to reality and fact checks, starting with his walk back from closing Gitmo within hours of taking office to now seeking to have it closed by the end of the first time.

Give him a few more hours, and he'll be saying that his presidency will be considered successful if Gitmo is closed by 2020.

notutopia Fri, Jan 16, 2009 9:54:34am

re: #72 buzzsawmonkey

I'm not familiar with this site or its purpose, but is it not at least conceivable that this Duke piece was posted--as some of the outrageous material from Hamas and Hezbollah is posted here--for the purpose, not of endorsing it, but of showing the participants the true nature of Duke and his evil?

It is conceivable. I too, have never used this site as a
communications resource.
But, the works of Duke is racist, anti-semetic, and
socialistic. Why would this site allow the posting suggestion to remain there? Why hasn't Mabry M. O'Donnell, Ph.D.
Hillyer Professor of Literature, Rhetoric, and Oratory
McCoy Professor of Communication
Marietta College or anyone else using that site dissented the article's submission on it or it's ideological suggestions.....

DistantThunder Fri, Jan 16, 2009 9:54:56am

re: #80 Silhouette

Which speaks to exactly the comment I was about to make.

The Bible speaks of people who pray loudly on the street corners, and says instead we should pray quietly in our closets. The point being that those on the street corners aren't interested in talking to God, but in having everyone around them see them being such 'good, religious' people.

Likewise, a man who publishes his letter to his daughters isn't so much interested in parenting as he is getting praise from everyone who sees him for being such a 'good and loving' parent.

It's another redflag that Obama is trying to present himself to us as a person, but who he really is not.

opnion Fri, Jan 16, 2009 9:55:11am

When you read these diatribes from people like David Duke, you can shrug & just consider the source. The problem is that anti-Semiticism has corrupted academia & much on the MSM.
Think about how deeply the average person looks at an issue. What they are hearing is that Israel is indiscriminately killing civilians in Gaza, rather than going out of their way to avoid that. Context? You hear very little now about the provocation.

Kosh's Shadow Fri, Jan 16, 2009 9:55:22am

re: #81 Alouette

Who still reads listservs? That is like, so 1990's.

The press. They're back in 1938.

yma o hyd Fri, Jan 16, 2009 9:55:54am

re: #39 Opinionated

As an antidote to Duke, read what Mark Twain wrote more then 100 years ago.

Concerning The Jews

[Link: www.fordham.edu...]

I especially loved the last two paragraphs:

'He has made a marvellous fight in this world, in all the ages; and has done it with his hands tied behind him. He could be vain of himself, and be excused for it. The Egyptian, the Babylonian, and the Persian rose, filled the planet with sound and splendor, then faded to dream-stuff and passed away; the Greek and the Roman followed, and made a vast noise, and they are gone; other peoples have sprung up and held their torch high for a time, but it burned out, and they sit in twilight now, or have vanished.

The Jew saw them all, beat them all, and is now what he always was, exhibiting no decadence, no infirmities of age, no weakening of his parts, no slowing of his energies, no dulling of his alert and aggressive mind. All things are mortal but the Jew; all other forces pass, but he remains. What is the secret of his immortality? '

Nice!

jwb7605 Fri, Jan 16, 2009 9:56:12am

re: #51 Sharmuta

No- there is a lot of evidence to show vlaams belang is not the good intentioned saviors of europe some other bloggers think they are:

Vlaams Belang

Let me play Cog (since he's apparently absent), for a second.
(This is directed at LGF commenters, in general)
This is meant as constructive criticism.

Providing a link that demonstrates a point is a good thing.
Providing a link demonstrates the point beginning with "www.littlegreenfootballs...." is marginal.

As we've noticed over the last few days, "the MSM" (and/or UPI) picks up and probably monitors LGF. I'm afraid of eventually seeing "these guys agree with themselves, and they are all [fill-in-the-horror].

"Monitors" will be quick to point out the circularity of our arguments ... and totally ignore the links to the outside reference from that inside reference.

This is not a criticism, just a caution. I picked up on this today, clicking on several links. I mentally started thinking "never mind, it's just a reference to us from a while back".

If I start doing that, guess what the external world will do?

It's a complete pain in the keester, but the technique of noting that a topic was covered by LGF several times here (Sharmuta's search) and supported by articles like this and this might be worth the extra drill-down to the outside casual observer.

Dainn Fri, Jan 16, 2009 9:56:59am

re: #90 lawhawk

Yup. We are back in the Clinton era where all decisions are subject to polls and focus group analysis. We say evidence of this when his staffer said to Canada don't worry, we are being protectionist for the election only.

itellu3times Fri, Jan 16, 2009 9:57:04am

re: #84 Former Belgian

Laurence Auster was actually born Jewish (he converted to Episcopalianism): he is a cousin of the novelist Paul Auster.

Actually, Wikipedia claims he has criticized paleocons like Pate Pukecannon for antisemitism in the past...

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

Is there no chance at all that Auster sent this as "an example of the antisemitic tripe peddled by David POS Duke"?

I dunno, maybe it's all obvious to the listserv audience, you know how ingrown such things get ... sorta like LGF, ...

... but the general rule is, who needs crap like that for any purpose at all?

J.S. Fri, Jan 16, 2009 9:57:15am

re: #72 buzzsawmonkey

This is one of those academic listserv(s), and it's supposed to have a moderator...(Frankly, almost all listserv's I've ever read are notoriously off topic, profane, stupid -- basically, unless it's tightly controlled, and most are not controlled, it's a waste of time...-- the best Listserv(s) are usually in the academic, scientific fields -- not in the sociology/political science/humanities...) But, a hate piece posted by Auster -- I figure it's being posted for approval/disseminating "info" reasons and not to critique it...(Isn't Auster a "blogger"? -- I never thought of him as an "academic", btw).

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midwestgak Fri, Jan 16, 2009 9:57:45am

re: #90 lawhawk

All Obama statements come with an expiration date.

You statement comes with a money back guarantee. :)

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[deleted] Fri, Jan 16, 2009 9:58:35am

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SaneInMN Fri, Jan 16, 2009 9:59:26am

Sorry, but "scholars in the field of Communication", is an absolute oxymoron. When I was a graduate student, I made some extra cash tutoring athletes. I attempted to aid them in passing BASIC dumbed-down biology. About 50% failed miserably. Want to guess what was the most popular major to declare in order to get out of the College of Arts and Sciences (and hence, avoid biology and foreign language classes)?

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subsailor68 Fri, Jan 16, 2009 10:00:56am

re: #101 Iron Fist

Yeah, some calibers are still in short supply, especially .223. But Wally World has a special on 12 ga. 00 buck right now. $10 for 15 rounds. It's not exactly dirt cheap, but given the way thing are headed it is at least reasonable.

Not sure where ya are, but our Wally World (live in the Texas Hill Country) is just about out of everything! (Thus our trip to San Antonio - but hey, had a great lunch at Maggiano's, so it's not all bad.)

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[deleted] Fri, Jan 16, 2009 10:01:17am

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Charles Johnson Fri, Jan 16, 2009 10:01:28am

re: #72 buzzsawmonkey

I'm not familiar with this site or its purpose, but is it not at least conceivable that this Duke piece was posted--as some of the outrageous material from Hamas and Hezbollah is posted here--for the purpose, not of endorsing it, but of showing the participants the true nature of Duke and his evil?

Sure, it's possible, but there's no obvious sign of it. I scrolled back through the previous dozen or so messages and this doesn't appear to be a response to any particular discussion.

Even if that's the case, though, it's still pretty strange to post a Duke rant to an academic mailing list.

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PayBackTime Fri, Jan 16, 2009 10:02:35am

I wish david duke was in one of the hamas bunkers that fatah has courteously supplied to the IAF.

david puke can join his hero SHITler in Hell.

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SaneInMN Fri, Jan 16, 2009 10:03:19am

re: #102 SaneInMN

Start reloading. Great thing to do when your cooped up here in MN in
-27 deg. weather. Save a little money, create better ammunition (if you do your part), and get the satisfaction of "rolling your own". However, use the factory stuff for your "carry gun".

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3 wood Fri, Jan 16, 2009 10:04:06am

OT:

The market is down about half a percent, based on the dividend slashing going on in the financial sector.

Financials drive market moves and dive in dividend

NEW YORK (MarketWatch) -- The financial shares driving the market higher on Friday were basking in a glow rarely seen in recent months, with S&P 500 investors in 2009 facing the worst dividends in at least half a century.

But not so fast, the market caught up to the news:

"We saw that fourth-quarter dividends were very bad, and some of those companies actually paid out in the fourth quarter, and then reduced in November and December. The full impact has not been felt by investors yet, and more is on the way. Even on the optimistic side, we're probably going to get a 50-year record in the percent of decline over 2008," said Silverblatt.
Case in point: Bank of America Corp.'s dividend reduction from $1.28 to 4 cents, a slashing that brings the S&P 500 payout and yield down by 3.4%, according to Silverblatt's calculations.
Bank of America axed its dividend and posted its first loss since 1991 after the government said it would invest an additional $20 billion in the financial firm and guarantee $118 billion of assets as B. of A. digests Merrill Lynch & Co. Read Financial Stocks.
A former dividend aristocrat -- a term reserved for companies that have paid out at least 25 years in a row, hiking each time -- Bank of America's recent reduction follows an October reduction from $2.56 to $1.28 after more than a quarter of a century of increases.

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realwest Fri, Jan 16, 2009 10:04:22am

re: #96 jwb7605 Well you played "Cog" reasonably well, but Sharm's post was to an LGF article that contained dozens of links to outside LGF research concerning those Euro-Nazi groups and therefore provided, IMO, an excellent service to all LGFer's who weren't here when all this shit first started coming down.
Linking to an LGF thread that provides ALL THAT outside research is invaluable.

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Opinionated Fri, Jan 16, 2009 10:04:58am

re: #95 yma o hyd

Also there was an addendum written later by Twain where he corrected something he wrote in the initial piece. Appropriate against Duke and like smears.

Postscript--THE JEW AS SOLDIER

When I published the above article in 'Harper's Monthly,' I was ignorant --like the rest of the Christian world--of the fact that the Jew had a record as a soldier. I have since seen the official statistics, and I find that he furnished soldiers and high officers to the Revolution, the War of 1812, and the Mexican War. In the Civil War he was represented in the armies and navies of both the North and the South by 10 per cent of his numerical strength--the same percentage that was furnished by the Christian populations of the two sections. This large fact means more than it seems to mean; for it means that the Jew's patriotism was not merely level with the Christian's, but overpassed it. When the Christian volunteer arrived in camp he got a welcome and applause, but as a rule the Jew got a snub. His company was not desired, and he was made to feel it. That he nevertheless conquered his wounded pride and sacrificed both that and his blood for his flag raises the average and quality of his patriotism above the Christian's. His record for capacity, for fidelity, and for gallant soldiership in the field is as good as any one's. This is true of the Jewish private soldiers and of the Jewish generals alike. Major-General O. O. Howard speaks of one of his Jewish staff officers as being 'of the bravest and best;' of another--killed at Chancellorsville --as being 'a true friend and a brave officer;' he highly praises two of his Jewish brigadier-generals; finally, he uses these strong words: 'Intrinsically there are no more patriotic men to be found in the country than those who claim to be of Hebrew descent, and who served with me in parallel commands or more directly under my instructions.'

Fourteen Jewish Confederate and Union families contributed, between them, fifty-one soldiers to the war. Among these, a father and three sons; and another, a father and four sons.

In the above article I was neither able to endorse nor repel the common approach that the Jew is willing to feed upon a country but not to fight for it, because I did not know whether it was true or false. I supposed it to be true, but it is not allowable to endorse wandering maxims upon supposition--except when one is trying to make out a case. That slur upon the Jew cannot hold up its head in presence of the figures of the War Department. It has done its work, and done it long and faithfully, and with high approval: it ought to be pensioned off now, and retired from active service.

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PayBackTime Fri, Jan 16, 2009 10:05:22am

Correction to #106

I wish david duke was in one of the hamas bunkers whose location has courteously supplied to the IAF by Fatah.

david puke can join his hero SHITler and SNAKE Yassin in Hell.

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subsailor68 Fri, Jan 16, 2009 10:05:23am

re: #107 SaneInMN

Start reloading. Great thing to do when your cooped up here in MN in
-27 deg. weather. Save a little money, create better ammunition (if you do your part), and get the satisfaction of "rolling your own". However, use the factory stuff for your "carry gun".

Agree completely. I was at a range not long ago where a guy was sighting in a new scope. For fun, he tried groupings with both his "home loads" and factory loads. He was a terrific shot, but his groups were very different - with the factory loads much closer.

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jwb7605 Fri, Jan 16, 2009 10:06:58am

re: #107 SaneInMN

Start reloading. Great thing to do when your cooped up here in MN in
-27 deg. weather. Save a little money, create better ammunition (if you do your part), and get the satisfaction of "rolling your own". However, use the factory stuff for your "carry gun".

Is Minnesota one of the 19 states that want to make it a felony if you shoot a criminal and don't use "registered ammunition"?

Those are statewide (not national) initiatives, and I get the impression Minnesota might just push it through. No offense, but I use Jesse Ventura and Al Franken as examples.

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realwest Fri, Jan 16, 2009 10:07:29am

re: #110 Opinionated
Just Excellent. Thank you for posting that.

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[deleted] Fri, Jan 16, 2009 10:08:02am

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therewaslight Fri, Jan 16, 2009 10:08:35am

Limbic drivel.

David Duke is a jealous guy who wants a well-organised white state like the Jews have got their well-organised Jewish state. And he won't admit his hypocrisy.

Difference is if the Jews decided not to have their Jewish state they'd probably be wiped out under a non-Jewish government in pogroms or holocausts, as we've seen throughout history.

When the Eurowhites did decide to have a white state they turned it into America and promptly had two civil wars in 200 years. It's pretty much gone downhill since then.

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jwb7605 Fri, Jan 16, 2009 10:09:53am

re: #109 realwest

Well you played "Cog" reasonably well, but Sharm's post was to an LGF article that contained dozens of links to outside LGF research concerning those Euro-Nazi groups and therefore provided, IMO, an excellent service to all LGFer's who weren't here when all this shit first started coming down.
Linking to an LGF thread that provides ALL THAT outside research is invaluable.

Absolutely, totally agree, and I was not dissing Sharmuta (or anybody else).
I just wanted to point out what happens when either the full text explanation doesn't accompany a link, and what probably happens when a non-LGF member views the comment.

My point is that an outside reader won't drill down.

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Adrenalyn Fri, Jan 16, 2009 10:10:32am

I just wish he'd change his party affiliation to "democrat" to more accurately reflect his values and the party of those values...

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[deleted] Fri, Jan 16, 2009 10:10:41am

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jwb7605 Fri, Jan 16, 2009 10:11:31am

re: #116 therewaslight

Limbic drivel.
[SNIP]

ding! rotating title nomination?

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subsailor68 Fri, Jan 16, 2009 10:12:57am

re: #119 Iron Fist

Sounds about like here in Texas. BTW, loved this line from the Girlfriend's article:

An electronic news service that covers outdoor news has even named Obama its "Gun Salesman of the Year."

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Opinionated Fri, Jan 16, 2009 10:12:59am

re: #114 realwest

Just Excellent. Thank you for posting that.

I enjoyed reading it myself. The more things change.....

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[deleted] Fri, Jan 16, 2009 10:14:00am

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Silhouette Fri, Jan 16, 2009 10:15:32am

re: #104 Iron Fist

Your example is much better than mine.

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Wishing Fri, Jan 16, 2009 10:17:44am

re: #39 Opinionated

As an antidote to Duke, read what Mark Twain wrote more then 100 years ago.

Concerning The Jews

[Link: www.fordham.edu...]

I just love Mark Twain. He was pals with my grandfather in Hartford, CT, back in the day. Both loved race horses.

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therewaslight Fri, Jan 16, 2009 10:17:59am

Limbic drivel.
David Duke is a jealous guy who wants a well-organised white state like the Jews have got their well-organised Jewish state. And he won't admit his hypocrisy.

Difference is if the Jews decided not to have their Jewish state they'd probably be wiped out under a non-Jewish government in pogroms or holocausts, as we've seen throughout history.

When the Eurowhites did decide to have a white state they turned it into America and promptly had two civil wars in 200 years. It's pretty much gone downhill since then. ~~And then they elected a black guy.~~

Would that have been too cheeky? :)

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yma o hyd Fri, Jan 16, 2009 10:19:35am

re: #110 Opinionated

Good old Mark Twain!

In the first paper he also said this, a propos Theodore herzl:

'...I am not the Sultan, and I am not objecting; but if that concentration of the cunningest brains in the world were going to be made in a free country (bar Scotland), I think it would be politic to stop it. It will not be well to let the race find out its strength. If the horses knew theirs, we should not ride any more.'

I loved that as well - excellent tongue-in-cheek writing!
Looks to me as if the Arabs are basically scared sh*tless by the Israelis. What they have been doing ever since the first Jewish settlers arrived would be called 'fear agression' in dog-training language.

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Pastorius Fri, Jan 16, 2009 11:21:41am

I haven't ever read Auster. I was aware of him because of Front Page and a few posts here.

I am surprised at how extreme this guy appears to be.

Interesting Auster link:

As I type, I'm glancing at some grotesque thing on ABC, about the Grinch and Christmas, in which humans interact in brotherhood with a variety of monstrous looking other species, and a little girl has a tender relationship with an unsettlingly hideous but sensitive and kind-hearted being called the Grinch ... How many whites will militate against vitally necessary immigration restrictions in the decades to come, how many young white females will be raped and murdered by nonwhites in the decades to come, because of the message of trusting and loving racial aliens that programs like this implant in them?

[Link: www.amnation.com...]

Here's another:

Biography:
White Nationalist Lawrence Auster, a New York City freelance writer, has written what Jared Taylor of American Renaissance has described as, “the best book now available on America's immigration policy. The Path to National Suicide is an articulate, undeceived, and utterly compelling appraisal of a national policy that is quietly, relentlessly changing the very character of our nation.” Mr. Auster stated at an American Renaissance Conference, “Either blacks accept the above facts; accept a society where white Western standards of law, behavior and intellectual life are dominant and where advancement will be open for blacks only on an individual, not a collective basis; accept their status as an ethnic minority and be grateful to be living in a white society where they have goods and opportunities undreamed of in a black society; or else, if blacks are not willing to accept these things, then to avoid race warfare there must be peaceful separation between the races.”

[Link: www.stormfront.org...]

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oneman Fri, Jan 16, 2009 11:31:29am

Sorry, CRTNET, but your mailing list is moderated. If you look at the list's published configuration, you'll see that the Send= keyword is set to

* Send= Editor,
* Send= confirm
* Send= non-member

This means that all submissions must be approved by an editor/moderator. The "Send= non-member" bit adds an additional level of security by requiring anyone who posts from an address that is not subscribed to the list to first confirm their own message before it is sent to the list moderator for approval.

Just the first Send= line would have been sufficient to force the message to be sent to a moderator for approval.

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fish Fri, Jan 16, 2009 11:55:09am

re: #61 Dainn

Beware extremist organizations that try to appear moderate.

The Democrat Party?

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Tigger2005 Fri, Jan 16, 2009 12:59:23pm

Well, they say they always die in threes. John Mortimer might not be as well known as Ricardo Montalban or Patrick McGoohan, but I guess he qualifies as the last member of the trifecta.

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Render Fri, Jan 16, 2009 4:11:13pm

Hey Larry...

I'm still waiting to hear from your lawyers.

It looks like you're overdue for a mental competency hearing.

You racist POS.

SUE
THIS,
R

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