Palestinians Booby Trap Zoo, Blame Israel

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Hamas is trying to wring some sympathy out of the world’s animal lovers, with a propaganda video accusing the Israelis of targeting the Gaza Zoo for a heinous massacre:

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It might be more believable if the IDF hadn’t already taken their own video, showing the same zoo wired up with explosives by Hamas:

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(Hat tip: Killgore.)

UPDATE at 1/26/09 7:18:57 pm:

Here’s a look at what life was like for animals in the Gaza Zoo under Hamas’ tender loving care:

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742 comments
1 Outrider  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 7:14:19pm

They have to get some targets

2 NYCHardhat  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 7:14:30pm

When in doubt, blame the Jews./

3 victor_yugo  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 7:14:39pm

PWN3D

4 ArmyWife  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 7:15:19pm

Go Killgore, go killgore, it's your birthday...

5 karmic_inquisitor  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 7:15:28pm

Isn't that the zoo where Nahoul threw rocks at the Lions? Wonder if any animal rights activists ever got a hold of that?

6 Maximu§  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 7:15:39pm

Lies on top of lies.

7 Sharmuta  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 7:15:41pm

PETA will be condemn hamas...... when?

8 SummerSong  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 7:15:55pm

Goons

9 Dianna  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 7:17:07pm

Good job, Killgore!

And it's just disgusting.

10 solomonpanting  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 7:17:09pm

"This camel was pregnant."
"Hey, I was out of town at the time of conception."

11 ArmyWife  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 7:17:20pm

re: #7 Sharmuta

Next week. They need to finish the sea kitten campaign first.

12 Maximu§  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 7:17:37pm

Poor animals, they have more dignity than most Palestinians and those aninmals are certainly better parents to their young.

13 Dianna  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 7:17:58pm

re: #7 Sharmuta

PETA will be condemn hamas...... when?

I think they actually did get irritated with them once, over a donkey. Though they seem to have gotten a pass on the turtle that got chopped up on the beach.

14 karmic_inquisitor  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 7:18:05pm

BTW - notice that it is gulfnews.com

Obama is a fool if he thinks that going on Al Arabiya is going to get him a straight audience with the Arab World. This video shows that Arabs are regularly fed hate filled propaganda by their "news" outlets and that is unlikely to change.

15 ArmyWife  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 7:18:41pm

re: #12 Maximu§

They all come to my farm! It will be Palestinian Animal Sanctuary! (Think my husband will notice the lions?)

16 Dianna  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 7:19:03pm

re: #12 Maximu§

Poor animals, they have more dignity than most Palestinians and those aninmals are certainly better parents to their young.

There are days when I am convinced it would be hard to be much worse.

Then I read the newspaper, and become convinced that we need to start over.

17 jorline  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 7:19:09pm

Sorry for the quick OT.

President Obama Does First Formal TV Interview as President with Al-Arabiya

Her we go...Iran will have unconditional access to the WH soon.

18 Maine's Michael  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 7:19:10pm

I sense a winner for the palestinians here.

The Jews got nothing but mere evidence.

19 JacksonTn  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 7:20:07pm

re: #17 jorline

Sorry for the quick OT.

President Obama Does First Formal TV Interview as President with Al-Arabiya

Her we go...Iran will have unconditional access to the WH soon.

Big surprise? ...I think not ...the winds are starting to blow ...

20 NYCHardhat  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 7:20:12pm

Phew! I feel safer already.

21 Silhouette  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 7:20:36pm
It is wired from here to the school.

When the words wired and school are in the same sentence, it SHOULD ONLY be referring to teenagers who are nervous over their studies.

22 Dianna  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 7:20:37pm

re: #15 ArmyWife

They all come to my farm! It will be Palestinian Animal Sanctuary! (Think my husband will notice the lions?)

"Honey, is that a lion?"

"Yes."

"What's it doing here?"

"Recuperating."

"...goodnight."

23 Maximu§  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 7:20:37pm

re: #15 ArmyWife

They all come to my farm! It will be Palestinian Animal Sanctuary! (Think my husband will notice the lions?)

Those Palestinians have no business running a Zoo, they can't even take care of their own kids.

24 ArmyWife  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 7:20:48pm

I was up pretty late last night working on staffing issues, so I am going to hit the rack. Y'all be good, I'll check in manana.

25 Desert Dog  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 7:21:30pm

"All the Animals aren't in the Zoo, the Hamas house as a few...."

26 Dianna  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 7:21:33pm

re: #21 Silhouette

Or me - I was a terrible coffee fiend.

27 gmsc  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 7:22:20pm

re: #24 ArmyWife

I was up pretty late last night working on staffing issues, so I am going to hit the rack. Y'all be good, I'll check in manana.

manana?

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28 stevieray  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 7:22:25pm

Get ready to email the second video to all MSM outlets who fall for the propaganda... (if "fall" is the correct word... more like "joyously participate in the propaganda campaign"...)

29 Truck Monkey  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 7:22:40pm

re: #4 ArmyWife

Go Killgore, go killgore, it's your birthday...

That's BirFday.....

30 Killgore Trout  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 7:23:02pm

re: #4 ArmyWife

Go Killgore, go killgore, it's your birthday...


I gotta do the dance...

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31 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 7:23:37pm

re: #17 jorline

Sorry for the quick OT.

President Obama Does First Formal TV Interview as President with Al-Arabiya

Her we go...Iran will have unconditional access to the WH soon.

On Al-Arabiya?!
Of course, he might as well have done it on Caliphate Nazi News.

32 Silhouette  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 7:24:50pm

The Israelis are so intent on filming the fuse and the booby traps. "Show the school. Show the fuse. I'm showing the fuse."

They knew when they saw it that they'd be blamed.

33 jaunte  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 7:25:05pm

Every life in Gaza is fodder for Pallywood Productions.
"Yes, camels were harmed in making this film. Because we're imprisoned by da joooos!"

34 NYCHardhat  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 7:25:21pm

This makes no sense.

35 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 7:25:42pm

Maybe the new Grad-model Katyusha rockets on the way are for defending the zoo.

36 Sheila Broflovski  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 7:25:43pm

Hamas killer bee tortures cats and caged lions.

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37 albusteve  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 7:26:38pm

heh...Hamas should be hunted down and eliminated...right, here we go again....Israel fucked up but they have their own fantasy they live in...everybody has a fantasy world....in mine Hamas would die one by one until there is no more Hamas...these pukes even rule the UN...hahaha...

38 Killgore Trout  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 7:26:46pm

What's really heartbreaking to think about is that the Israelis foiled the original plot to blow up the zoo. After the Israelis left they blew it up and shot the animals anyways. The IDF did a very good job about releasing these videos but they really should have released much more.

39 Sharmuta  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 7:27:02pm

These people don't care about the animals anymore than they care about their own people. I would think their economy couldn't handle supporting a zoo. Why do they even have a zoo- other than allowing Nahoul to treat the animals cruelly?

These poor creatures should be taken to real zoos in a developed country.

40 Sheila Broflovski  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 7:27:31pm

re: #38 Killgore Trout

What's really heartbreaking to think about is that the Israelis foiled the original plot to blow up the zoo. After the Israelis left they blew it up and shot the animals anyways. The IDF did a very good job about releasing these videos but they really should have released much more.

The Israelis are f&cked no matter what they do.

41 NYCHardhat  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 7:28:07pm

re: #39 Sharmuta

Why do they even have a zoo?

Singles club?

42 gmsc  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 7:28:14pm

re: #34 NYCHardhat

This makes no sense.

I'll start paying attention to headlines like that after the first time I read one that says, "White Males Hardest Hit".

I swear, if the Earth were about to explode, the headline would read, "World about to end - Poor, minorities, handicapped hardest hit".

43 Killgore Trout  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 7:28:22pm

re: #40 Alouette

The Israelis are f&cked no matter what they do.


History will tell the tale. I think they'll do fine in the long run.

44 albusteve  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 7:28:22pm

re: #39 Sharmuta

These people don't care about the animals anymore than they care about their own people. I would think their economy couldn't handle supporting a zoo. Why do they even have a zoo- other than allowing Nahoul to treat the animals cruelly?

These poor creatures should be taken to real zoos in a developed country.

how about solving the problem?....kill Hamas

45 NYCHardhat  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 7:29:04pm

re: #42 gmsc

I'll start paying attention to headlines like that after the first time I read one that says, "White Males Hardest Hit".

I swear, if the Earth were about to explode, the headline would read, "World about to end - Poor, minorities, handicapped hardest hit".

We never matter.

46 Opinionated  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 7:29:26pm

Jimmy Carter believes trustworthy Hamas and condemns the Zionist camel killers.

47 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 7:29:33pm

Expecting some further proof that Al gore is right tonight. Gotta get ready to save my family.

Good night.

Good work KT.

As always, thanks Charles.

49 esch  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 7:30:01pm

re: #34 NYCHardhat

This makes no sense.

I predict that will be used to silence all discussion of terrorism. Gotta stop scaring disadvantaged people, ya know.

50 NYCHardhat  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 7:30:38pm

re: #48 MandyManners

Evil minds that plot destruction,
Sorcerers of death's construction.


[Video]

The Sabbath rules.

51 Opinionated  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 7:31:02pm

But is the Rooster OK? That's what matters.

What did the dastardly Zionists do to the Rooster with the golden throat.

52 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 7:31:52pm

BOLTON: A circular negotiations game?

Iran's nuclear weapons program will necessarily be high on the foreign-policy agenda for newly inaugurated President Obama. During the campaign, Candidate Barack Obama argued strenuously that he could do a better job negotiating with Iran than his opponents. His task now, however, is significantly complicated by the three weeks of recent fighting in the Gaza Strip, and the impending Israeli elections on Feb. 10.

Given its longstanding and extensive financial support, arms supplies and other aid for Hamas, Iran's reaction to the three-week pounding administered by Israel will be significant both for Gaza and for the larger question of Iran's hegemonic aspirations in the Middle East. In fact, during the intense fighting, many wondered why Iran seemed to confine its response to the purely rhetorical, calling for Muslims to support Hamas, assassinate various Israeli officials, and, as usual, eliminate Israel entirely.

Once the fighting stopped, Iranian Foreign Minister Manouchehr Mottaki proclaimed "the victory of the Islamic resistance and the heroic people of Gaza" against Israel. That may come as news to Hamas terrorists who remained in Gaza and survived (as opposed to many of their leaders who fled during the Israeli attack), since Israel unquestionably did major damage to Hamas' forces, weapons supplies and infrastructure.

In Iran's peculiar calculus, however, as with Hezbollah during the 2006 war with Israel, having Hamas merely survive nonetheless constitutes a victory. After all, Hamas remains viable as a terrorist threat to Israel, which has yet again withdrawn from Gaza, and in some international circles Israel has been damaged by negative reactions to its self-defense against years of terrorist rocket attacks, a perverse but tangible public-relations victory for Hamas.

53 Opilio  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 7:32:21pm

re: #42 gmsc

I'll start paying attention to headlines like that after the first time I read one that says, "White Males Hardest Hit".

Headline of the (not too distant) future:

PFL Obama issues Executive Order: New Affirmative Action Programs to be instituted at all levels of society, White Males Hardest Hit.

54 gmsc  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 7:33:13pm

Minorities, women, gays lobby for Obama jobs - White Males Hardest Hit

Not all of construction workers will be helped by 0bama's stimulus package - White Males Hardest Hit

55 Sharmuta  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 7:33:36pm

If they really cared about the animals in their zoo, they wouldn't have booby trapped it, nor would they continue to wage war on their neighbor which they know will lead to retaliation and put their women, children and zoo animals in jeopardy.

They don't care about the lives of their people or animals- only death.

56 Truck Monkey  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 7:33:54pm

I find it funny that the Paliwood Spokestool said that the Israelis fired at the Lions in their cages and missed. How bad a shot do you have to be to shoot into a cage occupied by big cats and miss? That is about as believable as the Israeli genocide in Gaza. Some genocide. They only got 1300 (high est.). The sad thing is that there are actually people out there that believe it.

57 gmsc  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 7:34:23pm

re: #7 Sharmuta

PETA will be condemn hamas...... when?

...as soon as Hamas kills more animals with their actions than PETA have with theirs.

58 Silhouette  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 7:34:28pm

Taxes raised. White Males Hardest Hit.

59 Sharmuta  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 7:34:33pm

re: #56 Truck Monkey

How bad a shot do you have to be to shoot into a cage occupied by big cats and miss?

Imperial Stormtrooper bad.

60 sattv4u2  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 7:35:02pm

re: #56 Truck Monkey

I find it funny that the Paliwood Spokestool said that the Israelis fired at the Lions in their cages and missed. How bad a shot do you have to be to shoot into a cage occupied by big cats and miss? That is about as believable as the Israeli genocide in Gaza. Some genocide. They only got 1300 (high est.). The sad thing is that there are actually people LIBERALS out there that believe it.

61 Opinionated  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 7:35:37pm

re: #53 Opilio

Headline of the (not too distant) future:

PFL Obama issues Executive Order: New Affirmative Action Programs to be instituted at all levels of society, White Males Hardest Hit.

That's not a joke. That's reality.

No Jobs For White Males: Robert Reich

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62 karmic_inquisitor  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 7:35:43pm

Nahoul!

And you have to love the end of the clip where Sarah says that this was shown so children knew what NOT to do to animals because those actions are WRONG.

So maybe Sarah will come on and tell us that the whole war in Gaza - with all of Hamas' tactics - were to demonstrate to people what NOT to do in a war because those actions are WRONG.

63 sattv4u2  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 7:35:43pm

re: #58 Silhouette

Taxes raised. White Males Hardest Hit Finally Do Whats Right.

Rev James Lowery!

64 MandyManners  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 7:36:21pm

Cousin Bessie finally breaks her silence and sends a message to Hamas.

65 Maximu§  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 7:36:30pm

I would give a months pay to see the Lion's break loose and run wild on the streets of Gaza.

66 gmsc  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 7:36:35pm

re: #59 Sharmuta

Imperial Stormtrooper bad.

TV Trope: Imperial Stormtrooper Marksmanship Academy

67 sattv4u2  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 7:36:51pm

re: #63 sattv4u2

Rev James Joseoh Lowery!

Engage memory brain function before typing

68 Digital Display  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 7:36:57pm

re: #63 sattv4u2

Rev James Lowery!

Hey Satt! what up? I'm watching College Ball..But..what's new?

69 Silhouette  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 7:37:12pm

re: #59 Sharmuta

Imperial Stormtrooper bad.

These Blast points... too accurate for Sand People, only Imperial Storm Troopers are so precise.

/Obi wan was sorely mistaken

70 gmsc  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 7:37:14pm

re: #63 sattv4u2

Rev James Lowery!

Rev. James Lowery gives inaugural prayer - White Males Hardest Hit

71 sattv4u2  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 7:37:37pm

re: #68 HoosierHoops

Hey Satt! what up? I'm watching College Ball..But..what's new?

Same old same old. 40 minutes into a 12 hour shift! Oh joy, oh joy!

72 Kragar  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 7:37:55pm

Gee, who do I think is more likely to be cruel to animals? The side which waged a restrained, selective attack when they had every reason to wipe their enemy into the sea or the side which deliberately attacks civilians and straps bombs to their own children?

Hmmm, tough call.

73 newsjunkie_ky  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 7:38:49pm

Have you all seen this parody of the 'i pledge' video.

74 Truck Monkey  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 7:39:23pm

re: #63 sattv4u2

Rev James Lowery!

The Rymin' Revs lovely poem reminded me of spending summers at my girlfriends cabin. Because they were using an old septic system the rule was as follows: "If it's brown, flush it down. If its Yellow, keep it mellow." Thank god there was nothing about what to do if you saw something red!

75 jhrhv  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 7:39:39pm

I don't even know what to say these people are sickening and disgusting. Explosives in their homes their houses of worship in their schools and zoo's every place you can find civilians and children. But it's all the Jews fault and Jimmah tells us we can trust them. I want to Jimmah in a cage and to throw stones at him.

76 Bob Dillon  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 7:39:54pm

Check out:

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

Ya'alon, who is eighth on Likud's Knesset list, opened the first session of the three-day Jerusalem Conference with a Zionist speech of the old-fashioned, hard-hitting kind, that outlined a new strategy for Israel: no more retreats.

“We suffer from inertia in our way of thought,” Ya'alon said. “We pretend that there is a Palestinian entity which has recognized Israel. But from the dawn of Zionism there has not been an Arab movement that was willing to recognize Israel as the sovereign state of the Jewish nation. Mahmoud Abbas said it well before Annapolis: "Why should Judaism, this religion, have a state?" But we didn't want to listen. We blur this in the political and public debate.”

77 Digital Display  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 7:41:04pm

re: #71 sattv4u2

Same old same old. 40 minutes into a 12 hour shift! Oh joy, oh joy!

Bummer Dude.. I've got a tip for you when you fill out the backets..
Okla is really impressive this year..Pick them at least once..Could be the Kansas this year in the brackets..

78 Silhouette  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 7:41:20pm

Your old TV just received a pardon.

The switch to digital pushed back until June.

79 MandyManners  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 7:41:52pm

Skippy is not pleased at all.

80 Kragar  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 7:42:22pm

re: #73 newsjunkie_ky

Have you all seen this parody of the 'i pledge' video.

The Devil cannot stand to be mocked.

81 Sharmuta  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 7:42:38pm

re: #66 gmsc

TV Trope: Imperial Stormtrooper Marksmanship Academy

I was told there would be no math!

82 Ringo the Gringo  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 7:42:42pm

Have you all seen the new Hamas regulation body armor?

83 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 7:43:29pm

That blasted zoo--I have no idea whose idea it was, or why, but it's just been endless trouble. They had a lion stolen from it a few years ago, finally got her back...

84 JacksonTn  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 7:43:30pm

OT ...does anyone know where you can see the interview that The One is giving tonight on the Arabblahblah (I dont' know the name) station ...will it be online anywhere live feed ...I am looking but can't find anything ...

85 sattv4u2  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 7:43:38pm

re: #74 Truck Monkey

The Rymin' Revs lovely poem reminded me of spending summers at my girlfriends cabin. Because they were using an old septic system the rule was as follows: "If it's brown, flush it down. If its Yellow, keep it mellow." Thank god there was nothing about what to do if you saw something red!

Sleep in a different room than her !

86 Mich-again  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 7:44:10pm

I think the level of evil makes the term "booby trapped" inappropriate here.

The word "booby" should never be used to describe machinations of the death cult.

87 sattv4u2  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 7:44:27pm

re: #77 HoosierHoops

Bummer Dude.. I've got a tip for you when you fill out the backets..
Okla is really impressive this year..Pick them at least once..Could be the Kansas this year in the brackets..

Yeah,, I've been watching them. Big writ-up last week in Sports Ill about the brothre act they have there too!

88 solomonpanting  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 7:44:36pm

If a Congo warlord can be brought up on charges that he trained children to kill, why not extend the same courtesy to Hamas?

89 Bubbaman  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 7:44:46pm

Is this a sick metaphor or what? The animals are certainly more civilized than their keepers. But with the way the world is today, nothing surprises me. We've realized an Orwellian maddness where the moral is immoral and the righteous are now deemed heinous. Where 9/11 terrorists are give quarter by our POTUS while the victims are short-shafted. Where criminals are appointed to the highest offices in our government while the average citizen is squeezed by ever increasing regulations and restrictions...

90 gmsc  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 7:44:46pm

re: #81 Sharmuta

I was told there would be no math!

How can I break this to you gently, Sharmuta? First, take a close look at my avatar . . .

91 Noam Sayin'  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 7:44:56pm

re: #30 Killgore Trout

Told ya...

92 newsjunkie_ky  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 7:45:05pm

Still can't believe that geitner (sp) got confirmed. weenie republicans.

93 MandyManners  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 7:45:34pm

Rocky is waiting!

(I just wanna' hug the stuffing out of him.)

95 Mich-again  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 7:45:54pm

re: #92 newsjunkie_ky

Still can't believe that geitner (sp) got confirmed. weenie republicans.

A tax cheat in charge of the IRS. Its perfect really.

96 gmsc  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 7:46:39pm

re: #78 Silhouette

Your old TV just received a pardon.

The switch to digital pushed back until June.

Youtube Video
97 NYCHardhat  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 7:47:03pm

Later Lizards.

98 Mich-again  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 7:47:16pm

re: #88 solomonpanting

If a Congo warlord can be brought up on charges that he trained children to kill, why not extend the same courtesy to Hamas?

Gaza is the UN's antfarm.

99 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 7:47:19pm

re: #92 newsjunkie_ky

Still can't believe that geitner (sp) got confirmed. weenie republicans.

I would love to see Turbo Tax demand an apology or sue him.

100 Dianna  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 7:47:20pm

re: #66 gmsc

TV Trope: Imperial Stormtrooper Marksmanship Academy

Was it you that turned me on to TV Tropes? Because I'm going through them and laughing. If so, thank you!

101 Silhouette  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 7:47:28pm

Obama team finds the Bush team used Windows XP.

News reaction: OMG! What technological dinosaurs. That is so 3 years ago. Clearly, symbolic of how old and out of touch the whole GOP is, and they cannot handle the issues of the modern age.

Obama and Dems postpone switch from analog TB to digital four months.

News reaction. OMG! How thoughtful of Obama to be concerned for all the poor who would be left behind by this thoughtless technological advancement. It is the right thing to do to wait.

102 Killgore Trout  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 7:47:55pm

re: #91 Noam Sayin'

;)

103 newsjunkie_ky  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 7:48:13pm

re: #94 Alouette

I like Iowahawk's version.

Me, too.
The site 'Big Hollywood' really likes Iowahawk.

104 esch  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 7:48:15pm

re: #95 Mich-again

A tax cheat in charge of the IRS. Its perfect really.

It's more appropriate than you can imagine. I've actually read some of the code & regs.

105 gmsc  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 7:48:27pm

re: #100 Dianna

Was it you that turned me on to TV Tropes? Because I'm going through them and laughing. If so, thank you!

Yep!

You're welcome.

106 Gort  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 7:48:41pm

Thank G-d the Joooos spared the Unicorn exhibit.

/

107 Westward Ho  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 7:48:49pm

I saw this on the newspapers where it was blamed on da Jooos and was utterly outraged at the wanton cruelty. I am glad it was not done by the Israelis as it was a utterly despicable act.

108 Mich-again  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 7:49:28pm

re: #104 esch

I've actually read some of the code & regs.

Lots of people have read some of the code and regs. But I would bet not a single person has read all of them.

109 newsjunkie_ky  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 7:49:35pm

re: #95 Mich-again

A tax cheat in charge of the IRS. Its perfect really.


We need to compile a list of the crappy things the 0 has already done in less than a week.
Socialism, here we come.

110 MandyManners  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 7:50:29pm

re: #107 Westward Ho

I saw this on the newspapers where it was blamed on da Jooos and was utterly outraged at the wanton cruelty. I am glad it was not done by the Israelis as it was a utterly despicable act.

What can YOU do to address this issue? Can you write a letter to the editor, laying out the evidence to prove otherwise?

111 Opilio  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 7:50:30pm

re: #61 Opinionated

That's not a joke. That's reality.

No Jobs For White Males: Robert Reich

Youtube Video

I can attest that when it became my turn to be "downsized" after 27 years with my former employer, my fellow downsizees were all – with one exception – white, male, 40-50ish, with an average of about 20 years with the company. The demographics of the surviving group were mostly 30-somethings, 60% male, and about 50% Asian (including many H1B's).

112 gmsc  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 7:50:43pm

re: #100 Dianna

Was it you that turned me on to TV Tropes? Because I'm going through them and laughing. If so, thank you!

re: #100 Dianna

Was it you that turned me on to TV Tropes? Because I'm going through them and laughing. If so, thank you!

Ever see the New Media Are Evil TV Trope? You gotta love this quote:

CSI New York had an episode where Reed, a blogger, tried to get Mac to give information on the Taxicab Killer. Mac refuses, so Reed proceeds to make something up. This whips up hysteria enough that three cabbies murder some random cabbie that they suspect to be the killer, except he was a cop. Considering that bloggers like Charles Johnson made their bones exposing malfeasance in old media, this is Anvilicious with a corrupt anvil.

113 Noam Sayin'  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 7:51:01pm

To be fair, Charles, you should have labeled that last one as a public service announcement.

/

114 esch  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 7:51:06pm

re: #108 Mich-again

I'll wager you're right. Especially not any Treasury Sec.

115 A Kiwi Infidel  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 7:51:08pm

Just caught up with this.

When will the world wake up, more to the point, when will the effing media stop giving these animals PR blow jobs. I couldnt watch the last vid, on youtube, why the eff is it still on youtube?

Clearly these pally kids are taught animals are there to be treated cruelly, to ensure any sense of humanity and kindness is crushed from their souls.

What a pack of sick fuckin bastards they are..................sorry, I try to avoid strong language but I am bloody angry!

116 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 7:51:14pm

Who can afford to live in California anymore?

Schwarzenegger Wants To Tax Golf, Auto Repairs

Golf course owners and some of their customers are teed off at California Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger. So are veterinarians, auto mechanics and amusement park operators.

Their anger is directed at the Republican governor's proposal to extend the state sales tax to cover more services, an idea that has surfaced in other states as they race to plug crippling budget deficits. The Center on Budget and Policy Priorities, a research clearinghouse, predicts such deficits nationwide could reach $350 billion by 2011.

Schwarzenegger wants to help close a nearly $42 billion state budget deficit by taxing rounds of golf, auto repairs, veterinary care, amusement park and sporting event admissions and appliance and furniture repairs.

Democratic Gov. David Paterson in New York has proposed levies on MP3 downloads, taxi rides, movies, concerts, sporting events, and personal services such as haircuts, manicures and massages.

Schwarzenegger's fellow Republican in Utah, Gov. Jon Huntsman, has shelved a proposal to tax attorney and accounting services but promises to bring it back next year.

Service taxes in other states include levies on pet grooming, water well drilling, fur storage, massages, shoe repairs, swimming pool cleaning, taxidermy, and dating and diaper services. But that doesn't make the groups affected by Schwarzenegger's proposal feel any better.

117 Killgore Trout  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 7:52:05pm

re: #115 A Kiwi Infidel

I try to avoid strong language but I am bloody angry!


You're getting there. Good on ya

118 jwb7605  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 7:52:13pm

I had to open comments to upding the topic.
Is that new?

119 Maximu§  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 7:52:48pm

re: #111 Opilio

I can attest that when it became my turn to be "downsized" after 27 years with my former employer, my fellow downsizees were all – with one exception – white, male, 40-50ish, with an average of about 20 years with the company. The demographics of the surviving group were mostly 30-somethings, 60% male, and about 50% Asian (including many H1B's).

In other words, the Smart ones were let go and than replaced with Dummies.

120 Dianna  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 7:52:55pm

re: #112 gmsc

I hadn't got there yet; I've been rationing myself to only a few pages per evening.

121 A Kiwi Infidel  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 7:53:05pm

re: #116 NJDhockeyfan

Who can afford to live in California anymore?

Schwarzenegger Wants To Tax Golf, Auto Repairs


Arnold Schwarzenegger, the Terminator the Liquidator

122 akak  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 7:53:06pm
Riots erupted in Bahrain on Monday following the arrest of three prominent Shiite activists. Riot police fired tear gas at knots of youths hurling stones and burning car tires in protest over the early morning arrests.
The demonstrations began in the morning soon after news filtered out over the arrest of Hasan Mushaima, head of the HAQ Movement for Liberty and Democracy; Abdul Jalil Sengace, the group's spokesman; and Sheik Mohammed Habib al-Moqdad, a cleric who has repeatedly condemned the alleged discrimination against Bahrain's majority Shiites. (AP)

/shame couldn't happen to a nicer bunch!

123 Ojoe  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 7:53:35pm

re: #42 gmsc

This white male has no building design work at all in the office right now & that means a few months to a year out, no construction jobs in the field.

124 notutopia  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 7:53:38pm

OT Vatican News Release
Vatican: Comments by Holocaust denier unacceptable
[Link: www.google.com...]

125 jaunte  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 7:53:40pm

Here's a similar 2004 Chicago Tribune story on a Gaza zoo; very much the same story as today:
"Has anyone seen ostriches, songbirds, an 80-pound sea turtle, a kangaroo or a cobra? If so, please contact Mohammed Ahmed Juma, who says he is missing hundreds of birds and animals from his privately run zoo.

(No prizes for guessing who he blames).
[Link: www.encyclopedia.com...]

126 Kragar  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 7:54:30pm

re: #116 NJDhockeyfan

Who can afford to live in California anymore?

Schwarzenegger Wants To Tax Golf, Auto Repairs

Funny how the vast majority of budget gaps come from cost overruns due to illegals, yet the idea is never to crack down on the illegals.

127 Ojoe  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 7:54:32pm

re: #96 gmsc

"Digital" means "finger". Which one?

128 Salem  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 7:55:12pm

re: #17 jorline

Sorry for the quick OT.

President Obama Does First Formal TV Interview as President with Al-Arabiya

Her we go...Iran will have unconditional access to the WH soon.

If Obama is aiming to creep Americans out, he's off to a spectacular start.

129 Ojoe  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 7:55:30pm

re: #124 notutopia

Yes! The Pope reads LGF.

I bet he has an account here.

130 A Kiwi Infidel  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 7:55:38pm

re: #117 Killgore Trout

You're getting there. Good on ya

Thanks for that post, KT, it just pisses me off that the media fall for all this crap. Its not just the sick behaviour of the Fakes, but how the MSM are supporting them in their sick lies.

(calm, peace and calm, breath in..........breath out...........)

131 notutopia  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 7:56:26pm

re: #129 Ojoe

Yes! The Pope reads LGF.

I bet he has an account here.

I think some of his critics here perhaps sent emails to Rome...

132 Mich-again  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 7:56:26pm

re: #109 newsjunkie_ky

We need to compile a list of the crappy things the 0 has already done in less than a week.


How about this assinine comment from The One. President Obama Sends Off George Mitchell to Middle East:

"Compared to steroids, this is going to be a breeze," said President Obama, referring to special envoy to the Middle East George Mitchell's investigation of steroid use by Major League Baseball players in 2006 and 2007...

Obama said the immediate goals would be to "solidify the cease-fire, ensure Israel's security, also ensure that Palestinians in Gaza are able to get the basic necessities they need and that they can see a pathway towards long-term development that will be so critical in order for us to achieve a lasting peace," ...

Compared to steroids, this is going to be a breeze. Making jokes about Israel's security. Classy.

133 Bloodnok  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 7:56:31pm

re: #129 Ojoe

Yes! The Pope reads LGF.

I bet he has an account here.

I vote he's Jurassic Slappass

134 Scion9  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 7:57:01pm

re: #7 Sharmuta

PETA will be condemn hamas...... when?

PETA has already condemned us all for our existence. Singling out Hamas seems unnecessary.

135 A Kiwi Infidel  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 7:57:04pm

re: #129 Ojoe

Yes! The Pope reads LGF.

I bet he has an account here.


Winston06....?

136 Ringo the Gringo  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 7:57:22pm

re: #116 NJDhockeyfan

Who can afford to live in California anymore?

Schwarzenegger Wants To Tax Golf, Auto Repairs

They just changed the parking meters in my neighborhood; a quarter will now get you seven minutes!...and the meters now take credit cards!

137 Catttt  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 7:57:23pm

I'm truly surprised there were any animals still alive in the zoo. Remember that sea turtle story from last year?

Rare Giant Sea Turtle Slaughtered in Gaza for Rare "Aphrodisiac" Blood

Video shows the dead turtle and lots of bloody, gloating Palis.

138 Ojoe  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 7:57:24pm

re: #132 Mich-again

I cannot believe the cheapness of that man

139 Maximu§  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 7:57:43pm

re: #123 Ojoe

This white male has no building design work at all in the office right now & that means a few months to a year out, no construction jobs in the field.

I'm in the construction business, the majority of workers on a jobsite are white and hispanic. In 20 years, I can count the number of Blacks Ive seen doing construction labor on one hand. I think its been (3).

140 karmic_inquisitor  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 7:58:02pm

re: #132 Mich-again

Compared to steroids, this is going to be a breeze. Making jokes about Israel's security. Classy.

Obama in the Middle East - idiocy on steroids.

141 sattv4u2  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 7:58:23pm

re: #129 Ojoe

Yes! The Pope reads LGF.

I bet he has an account here.

Winston,, he was just testing us yesterday!

142 Ojoe  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 7:58:46pm

re: #139 Maximu§

Hispanics often do first class work.

I have seen few blacks, you are right about that.

143 Catttt  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 7:59:08pm

re: #127 Ojoe

"Digital" means "finger". Which one?

Al's.

144 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 7:59:12pm

Michael Lerner is back from the Inauguration, and e-mailing me. A little peeved that Obama gave insufficient props to the anti-war movement, but, you know, hopeful.

Hopefully, Hillary will tell Obama not to get too close. Rabbi Lerner gloms.

145 Killgore Trout  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 7:59:14pm

re: #130 A Kiwi Infidel

(calm, peace and calm, breath in..........breath out...........)

Youtube Video
146 Perpetua  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 7:59:17pm

So, when I read this post, I went over to the Youtube site and left a comment that the video was questionable and one other person followed up. I am wondering why no one else from LGF has gone over to vote down the video and leave comments that it is a fraud or vote up our comments that it is a fraud.

147 Occasional Reader  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 7:59:41pm

re: #132 Mich-again

Compared to steroids, this is going to be a breeze. Making jokes about Israel's security. Classy.

Wow. We have a teenager in charge of the country. I feel so much better, don't you?

148 Ojoe  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 7:59:43pm

re: #143 Catttt

Alfred's?

149 Sharmuta  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 7:59:43pm

re: #133 Bloodnok

I vote he's Jurassic Slappass

LOL!

150 newsjunkie_ky  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 7:59:58pm

re: #128 Salem

If Obama is aiming to creep Americans out, he's off to a spectacular start.

OMG! This is telling.

151 Gort  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 7:59:58pm

re: #7 Sharmuta

PETA will be condemn hamas...... when?

When PETA shifts their focus to animal-on-animal aggression...

152 gmsc  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:00:25pm

re: #116 NJDhockeyfan

Who can afford to live in California anymore?

Schwarzenegger Wants To Tax Golf, Auto Repairs

If he taxes golf, that's going to seriously hamper the hunt for the real killers!

153 sattv4u2  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:00:38pm

re: #151 Gort

When PETA shifts their focus to animal-on-animal aggression...

Why would PETA care what one Hamas member does to anothre?

154 reine.de.tout  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:00:43pm

re: #124 notutopia

OT Vatican News Release
Vatican: Comments by Holocaust denier unacceptable
[Link: www.google.com...]


Great! I guess.
Great damage has been done; this statement is too late.
But I guess better late than never.

155 JacksonTn  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:01:00pm

I hate to link to Hufftrash but it is the only source I can find on the interview right now:

[Link: www.huffingtonpost.com...]

I would like to see the video ....

156 Mich-again  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:01:02pm

re: #138 Ojoe

I cannot believe the cheapness of that man

Again. This is the quote from Obama.

"Compared to steroids, this is going to be a breeze,"

Obama jokes that bringing peace to the Middle East will be a breeze compared to arm-twisting millionaire athletes to submit to drug testing as a precondition for employment. What an absolutely stupid thing to say.

157 sattv4u2  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:01:27pm

re: #154 reine.de.tout

Great! I guess.
Great damage has been done; this statement is too late.
But I guess better late than never.

Would have been hard to condemn the statement BEFORE it was made !

just sayin

158 solomonpanting  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:01:39pm

re: #136 Ringo the Gringo

They just changed the parking meters in my neighborhood; a quarter will now get you seven minutes!...and the meters now take credit cards!

I recently read an article where local officials expressed reservations about raising the rates of some parking meters to four dollars an hour. Some merchants complained they were losing business because some customers refused to be extorted.

159 Ojoe  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:01:54pm

re: #154 reine.de.tout

The Catholic church is 2,000 years old, they have a different idea of "late" than most people. This was pretty early for them, actually.

160 Catttt  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:02:21pm

re: #139 Maximu§

I'm in the construction business, the majority of workers on a jobsite are white and hispanic. In 20 years, I can count the number of Blacks Ive seen doing construction labor on one hand. I think its been (3).

My ex is in construction (electrician). They'd hire black guys from the hood they were working in to be helpers. Some would have potential (no pun intended) and would be offered a job, starting at helper, with schooling to work their way up. None ever took the offer - they didn't want to leave the hood. Sounds goofy, but I saw it happen over and over.

161 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:02:35pm

Oh, and the IDF has recruited eight eland.

162 gmsc  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:02:37pm

re: #136 Ringo the Gringo

They just changed the parking meters in my neighborhood; a quarter will now get you seven minutes!...and the meters now take credit cards!

Have you seen the new SF parking meters? They're networked!

As more of them are used, the price per minute goes up, and as fewer are used, the price-per-minute goes down.

163 WriterMom  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:02:46pm

re: #115 A Kiwi Infidel

Let it out!

164 newsjunkie_ky  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:02:59pm

re: #132 Mich-again
Good one. What a total a$$wipe.
I'm saving it to a file.
Anyone else have one, post or email me.

165 Maximu§  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:03:01pm

re: #142 Ojoe

Hispanics often do first class work.

I have seen few blacks, you are right about that.

I didn't mean it as raciest comment, but Blacks don't seem to do hard-labor anymore (for the most part). I'm sure there are exceptions.

166 gman  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:03:08pm

Surprisingly, I found coverage of the "Nahoul goes to the Zoo" video segment in the PETA archives. The comment section was quite revealing:

I really wouldn't trust "Palestinian Media Watch" - this program was probably not palestinian at all. PMW has in the past, presented Egyptian, Jordanian and Saudi programs as Palestinians, meaning they cannot be trusted. It is run by Itamar Marcus, an illegal settler who lives on stolen Palestinian land. Besides, Israel is not free from animal cruelty itself. This is pro-Israel propananda and shame on PETA for posting it. Just like poz.com posted a baseless story that Yasser Arafat died of AIDS, which was sourced from World Net Daily, and lying pro-Israel propaganda website.
It's true that Palestinians have a long way in terms of animal rights, but what is also true is that Palestinians treat animals better than Israelis treat Palestinians!
Let's be balanced here

ahhh the old "well the Israelis are even worse, so there" argument.

167 Sharmuta  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:03:57pm

re: #151 Gort

It would just be nice if an organization that cares about animals did something to save these poor animals in gaza- they don't belong there. They belong in a real facility that can care for them. I don't need jokes- I'm quite serious. I don't even care if it's an animal rights group. Anyone anywhere care to rescue these animals?

168 Ojoe  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:03:58pm

re: #156 Mich-again

Obama, foolish beyond measure.

God help our country.

169 MarineGrunt  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:04:13pm
This camel was pregnant, she was due in a month

, with Achmed Jr. ?

170 Ojoe  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:04:45pm

re: #165 Maximu§

I can see that after slavery they want to take a break, I mean that in a kind way.

171 sattv4u2  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:04:49pm

re: #159 Ojoe

The Catholic church is 2,000 years old, they have a different idea of "late" than most people. This was pretty early for them, actually.

good point, and there's a reason for that. If you think the US gov't is a big bueraucracy, try doing a flow chart from Catholic Church parish priest up to Pope

172 gmsc  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:05:03pm

re: #78 Silhouette

Your old TV just received a pardon.

The switch to digital pushed back until June.

CHANGE!™

173 karmic_inquisitor  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:05:25pm

re: #156 Mich-again

Obama jokes that bringing peace to the Middle East will be a breeze compared to arm-twisting millionaire athletes to submit to drug testing as a precondition for employment. What an absolutely stupid thing to say.

We should make that statement into his "Mission Accomplished".

Just repeat it every freakin' time the guy has to deal with another situation there.

174 Catttt  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:05:56pm

Charles - awesome juxtapositioning of vids.

175 unrealizedviewpoint  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:05:58pm

re: #162 gmsc

Have you seen the new SF parking meters? They're networked!

As more of them are used, the price per minute goes up, and as fewer are used, the price-per-minute goes down.

That sounds like capitalism, supply & demand. WTF's it doing in SF?

176 VioletTiger  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:06:03pm

I'd like a moment with that Bee. I can't believe that bastard swung that poor cat by its tail.

177 WriterMom  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:06:09pm

Is it just me, or has The Annointed One actually had a pretty craptastic week, PR wise? I heard his approvals are down 15%, he's managed to piss off all the Republicans, the entire pro-life world, families of 9/11 victims and all of us who will NEVER FORGET and NEVER FORGIVE, and directed his attention-AS POTUS toward a talk-show radio host. Plus, he gaffetastically said "I WON" in response to criticism ("I won, lalallalalaal I am 10 years old), talked about how hot his wife is..and made some pretty great f^ck ups for American national security. What a week!

178 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:06:14pm

re: #156 Mich-again

Obama jokes that bringing peace to the Middle East will be a breeze compared to arm-twisting millionaire athletes to submit to drug testing as a precondition for employment. What an absolutely stupid thing to say.

At this point, I think the 0ne has proven beyond a shadow of a doubt that he is incapable of the job he just got.

Unless he plans to nuke Israel. I doubt he's going to nuke Iran and Syria, which might go far towards making peace in the mideast. Of course, I understand the solution is more complicated.

179 Bloodnok  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:06:14pm

re: #156 Mich-again

Obama jokes that bringing peace to the Middle East will be a breeze compared to arm-twisting millionaire athletes to submit to drug testing as a precondition for employment. What an absolutely stupid thing to say.

Arrogant, childish, low-rent, boorish twit.

/sorry, President arrogant, childish, low-rent, boorish twit.

180 Ojoe  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:06:28pm

re: #173 karmic_inquisitor

re: #156 Mich-again

Obama jokes that bringing peace to the Middle East will be a breeze compared to arm-twisting millionaire athletes to submit to drug testing as a precondition for employment. What an absolutely stupid thing to say.

"It's above my steroid level."

181 Sheila Broflovski  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:06:55pm

re: #137 Catttt

I'm truly surprised there were any animals still alive in the zoo. Remember that sea turtle story from last year?

Rare Giant Sea Turtle Slaughtered in Gaza for Rare "Aphrodisiac" Blood

Video shows the dead turtle and lots of bloody, gloating Palis.

And the Israeli marine biologists had just tagged it and released it back to the sea.

182 Mich-again  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:07:11pm

re: #168 Ojoe

Obama, foolish beyond measure.

God help our country.

Getting in spats with talk radio hosts, joking about Israel's security, and promising to increase regulations on already strangled industries. Obama has a paid idiot advising him. Unless he's flying solo or maybe listening to his wife too much. Someone needs to rein him in before this turns into Vaudeville.

183 gmsc  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:07:19pm

re: #175 unrealizedviewpoint

That sounds like capitalism, supply & demand. WTF's it doing in SF?

Well, that's what happens with any form of socialism. Eventually they run out of other people's money.

When they run out of other people's money, they have to try something capitalist to actually make more money. That should show you how bad the situation in SF is right now.

184 Bloodnok  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:07:19pm

re: #177 WriterMom

Is it just me, or has The Annointed One actually had a pretty craptastic week, PR wise? I heard his approvals are down 15%, he's managed to piss off all the Republicans, the entire pro-life world, families of 9/11 victims and all of us who will NEVER FORGET and NEVER FORGIVE, and directed his attention-AS POTUS toward a talk-show radio host. Plus, he gaffetastically said "I WON" in response to criticism ("I won, lalallalalaal I am 10 years old), talked about how hot his wife is..and made some pretty great f^ck ups for American national security. What a week!

It ain't just you!

185 WriterMom  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:08:03pm

re: #184 Bloodnok

GOOD!

186 MandyManners  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:08:03pm

re: #156 Mich-again

Obama jokes that bringing peace to the Middle East will be a breeze compared to arm-twisting millionaire athletes to submit to drug testing as a precondition for employment. What an absolutely stupid thing to say.

Oh, no. No one is that stupid.

Do you have a link?

187 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:08:14pm

PETA should love this...

HB.1729

For every child, 2 years of age or younger, acquired by the United States Department of Agriculture Food and Nutrition Service, the parent of the child will receive either a cash payment of 2000 dollars or 3000 dollars will be deposited in a medical savings plan.
HB.1729 is designed to increase the income level of the family or single parent, which will help them to become a self-sustainable member of society, reduce our burden of over-population and break the cycle of crime that is prevalent among our low-income citizens.

This will also enable more parents to enter the job market, becoming freed from dependency on multiple government programs.

The act will not rely on taxpayers money. It will pay for itself from the sales of the food products created from the children enrolled in the program. The low cost of the food product will also benefit all Americans, as it can be used as a substitute for higher priced meats.

/sarcasm alert/satire alert/sarcasm alert/satire alert/sarcasm alert

(from A Modest Proposal by WLN (C) 2008)

188 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:08:27pm

re: #177 WriterMom

Is it just me, or has The Annointed One actually had a pretty craptastic week, PR wise? I heard his approvals are down 15%, he's managed to piss off all the Republicans, the entire pro-life world, families of 9/11 victims and all of us who will NEVER FORGET and NEVER FORGIVE, and directed his attention-AS POTUS toward a talk-show radio host. Plus, he gaffetastically said "I WON" in response to criticism ("I won, lalallalalaal I am 10 years old), talked about how hot his wife is..and made some pretty great f^ck ups for American national security. What a week!

At this rate, he'll have a lower approval rating than GWB ever had - after a month.
After another month, the US will be the laughing stock of the world.

189 WriterMom  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:08:59pm

re: #178 Kosh's Shadow

Woefully incapable of doing this job. What a job to not be able to do.

190 SummerSong  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:09:24pm

re: #136 Ringo the Gringo

They just changed the parking meters in my neighborhood; a quarter will now get you seven minutes!...and the meters now take credit cards!

Sounds like Laguna Beach meters, except you also have to move your car every two hours.

191 jaunte  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:09:29pm

"At the very start of an appearance today with George Mitchell, his special Middle East envoy, President Obama was heard to joke that "compared to steroids, this is going to be a breeze,"
[Link: www.cbsnews.com...]

192 Maximu§  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:09:38pm

re: #170 Ojoe

I can see that after slavery they want to take a break, I mean that in a kind way.

After a couple of hundred years, I would think break time is over. Hard physical work is good for a young Man, my first job was digging ditches for a plumbing contractor.

193 Sharmuta  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:09:40pm

I'm going to write a couple zoos and see if they won't save these animals.

194 Mich-again  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:09:44pm

re: #186 MandyManners

Do you have a link?

Here is one.
President Obama Sends Off George Mitchell to Middle East: 'Compared to Steroids, This is Going to Be a Breeze'

195 [deleted]  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:09:54pm
196 MandyManners  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:10:01pm

re: #177 WriterMom

Is it just me, or has The Annointed One actually had a pretty craptastic week, PR wise? I heard his approvals are down 15%, he's managed to piss off all the Republicans, the entire pro-life world, families of 9/11 victims and all of us who will NEVER FORGET and NEVER FORGIVE, and directed his attention-AS POTUS toward a talk-show radio host. Plus, he gaffetastically said "I WON" in response to criticism ("I won, lalallalalaal I am 10 years old), talked about how hot his wife is..and made some pretty great f^ck ups for American national security. What a week!

I just wanted to repeat that.

197 Frank N Stein  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:10:12pm

re: #18 Maine's Michael

I sense a winner for the palestinians here.

The Jews got nothing but mere evidence.

The evidence will be suppressed as "Zionist propaganda" while the Palestinian version will be accepted without questioning as the Palestinians are unbiased and are known for providing accurate reports on every subject. Fake, but accurate. That's the media's standard.

198 newsjunkie_ky  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:10:28pm

POTUS bho the epitome of 'the peter principle'.

199 Mich-again  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:10:54pm

re: #195 Iron Fist

Not just Israel's security. Our security as well.

Eggs-actly.

200 J.S.  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:10:55pm

re: #177 WriterMom

He's also spent the entire week in bashing Bush (ditto for the MSM), and in overturning every single feature of Bush's policies...David Gergen has characterized it as a revolution, and that the 0 wants to "transform the world"...change America beyond recognition...both in terms of domestic policy (the economy, and undercutting the Detroit automakers), and in terms of foreign policy (shafting Israel?)

201 Elcid  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:10:57pm

re: #177 WriterMom

Is it just me, or has The Annointed One actually had a pretty craptastic week, PR wise? I heard his approvals are down 15%, he's managed to piss off all the Republicans, the entire pro-life world, families of 9/11 victims and all of us who will NEVER FORGET and NEVER FORGIVE, and directed his attention-AS POTUS toward a talk-show radio host. Plus, he gaffetastically said "I WON" in response to criticism ("I won, lalallalalaal I am 10 years old), talked about how hot his wife is..and made some pretty great f^ck ups for American national security. What a week!

Hope and Change is what the majority wanted. They got it and just exactly the way, they wanted it. Poor USA.

202 WriterMom  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:11:30pm

re: #195 Iron Fist

What ever he shoves up Israel's butt, you can be sure will be shoved up America's too. Anyone comfortable with this jerk strong-arming Israel should be equally prepared for it to haunt them in the US. It will haunt the whole western world.

203 Sharmuta  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:11:43pm

They claim they can't even feed their population- how the hell are they feeding lions?!

204 melinwy  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:11:45pm

re: #179 Bloodnok

Arrogant, childish, low-rent, boorish twit.

/sorry, President arrogant, childish, low-rent, boorish twit.

Can anyone imagine what the headlines would be if Bush
had said this?

205 Gort  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:11:51pm

re: #167 Sharmuta

It is a sad situation for the zoo animals, and I truly hope there is some help for them them. I'm just not so sure PETA would involve themselves without some evil pharmaceutical corporation to lay the blame on.

206 Elcid  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:12:03pm

re: #195 Iron Fist

Hey IF...how the hell are ya'?

207 karmic_inquisitor  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:12:09pm

re: #198 newsjunkie_ky

POTUS bho the epitome of 'the peter principle'.

Problem he has long since risen past his level of incompetency.

208 MandyManners  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:12:18pm

re: #189 WriterMom

C'mere, sweetie. MWAH!

209 gmsc  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:12:19pm

re: #177 WriterMom

Is it just me, or has The Annointed One actually had a pretty craptastic week, PR wise? I heard his approvals are down 15%,

ARGH! Math Pet Peeve!

No, it's down 15 percentage points, not 15%. From 83% approval down 15 percentage points, to 68% approval, would actually be a drop of just over 18%.

(Roughly 18.0722891566% to get more precise)

210 WriterMom  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:12:21pm

re: #196 MandyManners

That's the way I see it, baby. And I'm thinking it's going to get way more gaffetastic FAST.

211 Killgore Trout  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:12:22pm

re: #146 Perpetua

I am wondering why no one else from LGF has gone over to vote down the video and leave comments that it is a fraud or vote up our comments that it is a fraud.


There's a variety of opinion here on that topic. I often disagree with Charles on this point. I want Islamists to post these videos on you tube. I found the vid of Hamas using children as spotters a few weeks ago. The video was titled something like "Israeli warcrimes" posted by a Hamas supporter. I also found another video labeled something like "Jewish aggression" which showed Hamas fighters using an ambulance. Unfortunately that one was too blurry to be conclusive. The MSM is not going to show us this stuff but the Islamists are more than happy to post videos of their morally repulsive behaviour and even brag about it. I say we let them.

212 Dianna  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:12:36pm

re: #175 unrealizedviewpoint

That sounds like capitalism, supply & demand. WTF's it doing in SF?

It was actually created to punish people who drive.

213 sattv4u2  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:12:41pm

re: #203 Sharmuta

They claim they can't even feed their population- how the hell are they feeding lions?!

Fatah members who have "fallen" off of roofs

214 gmsc  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:13:10pm

re: #203 Sharmuta

They claim they can't even feed their population- how the hell are they feeding lions?!

Maybe they're feeding their starved population to the lions.

215 WriterMom  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:13:17pm

re: #208 MandyManners

LOL. You know what a 'kuni' is in Farsi?

Ask JCM.

216 Mich-again  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:13:29pm

re: #203 Sharmuta

They claim they can't even feed their population- how the hell are they feeding lions?!

How do they dispose of their fellow Gazans they murder?

217 Sharmuta  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:13:30pm

re: #205 Gort

I'm going to contact the DC, San Diego, and Omaha zoos.

218 WriterMom  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:13:44pm

re: #209 gmsc

OOOH you're geeking out on me. Cute.

219 solomonpanting  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:14:43pm

re: #132 Mich-again

I listened to the linked speech by Obama and didn't hear him make the steroids reference. But, he does sound like he needs to attend a twelve-step speech program of On-and-on-and-on.

220 WriterMom  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:14:44pm

re: #213 sattv4u2

Or committed suicide by a bullet to the back of their heads.

221 Ojoe  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:15:02pm

re: #209 gmsc

At that rate, in a little over 5 weeks, his approval will be zero.

222 MandyManners  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:15:20pm

re: #194 Mich-again

Here is one.
President Obama Sends Off George Mitchell to Middle East: 'Compared to Steroids, This is Going to Be a Breeze'

I am speechless.

223 Maximu§  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:15:31pm

re: #196 MandyManners

I just wanted to repeat that.

Hmmmm, whats up for next week?

Oh, The Dali-Bama will call for a "ban" on all Nuclear weapons starting with America's weapons first. Its a bigger version of the Liberals "gun-free" zones they have created in the worst cities for crime.

224 Dr. Shalit  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:15:38pm

re: #7 Sharmuta

PETA will be condemn hamas...... when?

NEVER - Jamais Hamas! Down deep they are SOULMATES.

-S-

225 gmsc  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:15:39pm

re: #218 WriterMom

OOOH you're geeking out on me. Cute.

To me, Pi is more than just an avatar . . .
;)

226 melinwy  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:15:39pm

re: #204 melinwy

Can anyone imagine what the headlines would be if Bush
had said this?

oops forgot the nobama quote
At the very start of an appearance today with George Mitchell, his special Middle East envoy, President Obama was heard to joke that "compared to steroids, this is going to be a breeze,"

227 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:15:41pm

re: #200 J.S.

He's also spent the entire week in bashing Bush (ditto for the MSM), and in overturning every single feature of Bush's policies...David Gergen has characterized it as a revolution, and that the 0 wants to "transform the world"...change America beyond recognition...both in terms of domestic policy (the economy, and undercutting the Detroit automakers), and in terms of foreign policy (shafting Israel?)

Back during the campaign, I called it: change = revolution.

228 Sheila Broflovski  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:15:45pm

re: #203 Sharmuta

They claim they can't even feed their population- how the hell are they feeding lions?!

They're feeding them the children that they claim Israel killed.

229 Pietr  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:15:54pm

re: #172 gmsc

CHANGE!™

gmsc-I went to your post, as a fave, one who might answer. This thread is avalanching, so it's hard to read, let alone keep up. How does one get Charles to review a link-because I have 2-here they are:

[Link: www.newsmax.com...]

[Link: www.newsmax.com...]

230 WriterMom  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:16:11pm

re: #200 J.S.

That family has NO CLASS.

231 [deleted]  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:16:15pm
232 karmic_inquisitor  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:16:17pm

re: #204 melinwy

Can anyone imagine what the headlines would be if Bush
had said this?

Especially when you consider that Bush was a baseball team owner. They would have just slammed him for being way out of his depth.

233 Ojoe  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:16:27pm

re: #222 MandyManners

"A breeze"?

This is unfathomable stupidity and ignorance.

234 Sharmuta  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:16:33pm

Please help me save the gaza zoo animals

National Zoo
San Diego Zoo
Omaha's Henry Doorly Zoo

Thanks!

235 MandyManners  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:16:57pm

re: #216 Mich-again

How do they dispose of their fellow Gazans they murder?

Aw, c'mon. That's just plain mean.

236 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:17:01pm

Here we go again...

Israel mulling 1,000-for-1 prisoner exchange, open borders with Gaza as part of truce negotiations

Trading 1,000 prisoners for one soldier may seem lop-sided, but that is precisely the deal that Israel is considering, according to several published reports.

Hamas negotiator Ayman Taha said that Israel had offered the release of 1,000 Palestinian prisoners in exchange for the return of Staff Sgt. Gilad Shalit, an Israeli soldier captured by Palestinian militants in 2006, two Israeli newspapers, The Jerusalem Post and Haaretz, reported, attributing the quotes to an Egyptian newspaper.

Shalit, who was born in Israel and holds both French and Israeli citizenship, is believed to still be alive, and French president Nicolas Sarkozy said during a visit to Israel last week that Shalit's return is an important part of any long-term peace in the region.

In addition to the prisoner exchange, Taha said that Israel had offered to open the border crossings between Israeli and Gaza, a possibility the Jerusalem Post confirmed with Israeli defense sources on Sunday.

237 reine.de.tout  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:17:31pm

re: #157 sattv4u2

Would have been hard to condemn the statement BEFORE it was made !

just sayin

Well, duh!
Not thinking straight, am I tonight?

Actually- this guys views were not a secret to anyone, and I think some of this could have been made clear before now, that's all I was trying to say, not very clearly, obviously.

238 [deleted]  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:17:35pm
239 solomonpanting  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:17:40pm

re: #219 solomonpanting

I listened to the linked speech by Obama and didn't hear him make the steroids reference. But, he does sound like he needs to attend a twelve-step speech program of On-and-on-and-on.

I just saw jaunte's #191 link.

240 jaunte  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:17:41pm

re: #235 MandyManners


Fatahburger; its more than just LA's favorite.

241 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:17:45pm

re: #213 sattv4u2

Fatah members who have "fallen" off of roofs

Boy, they haven't even reached the Roman level of combat of lions vs whoever.
Or maybe it is because the Jooos destroyed the coliseum.
/last line sarc

242 gmsc  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:18:03pm

re: #229 Pietr

gmsc-I went to your post, as a fave, one who might answer. This thread is avalanching, so it's hard to read, let alone keep up. How does one get Charles to review a link-because I have 2-here they are:

[Link: www.newsmax.com...]

[Link: www.newsmax.com...]

Do you mean review a post for consideration for a front page story/thread?

243 newsjunkie_ky  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:18:10pm

Wonder how many of the people who voted for the 0ne, so they could tell their grandchildren they voted for 'hope and change' and the first AA president, will admit they voted for him in years to come?
'Yes, I voted to elect the 0ne and that is why you have to stand in the bread line today. Ain't Socialism grand.'

244 MandyManners  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:18:43pm

re: #210 WriterMom

That's the way I see it, baby. And I'm thinking it's going to get way more gaffetastic FAST.

Interesting times we live in.

245 unrealizedviewpoint  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:19:12pm

re: #188 Kosh's Shadow

At this rate, he'll have a lower approval rating than GWB ever had - after a month.
After another month, the US will be the laughing stock of the world.

I was directed to watch CNN and managed to catch a few minutes of coverage. Unfortunately, with the assistance of the MFM and the comedy media the 20 Yr-olds watch, it'll be a couple years longer than a couple of weeks.

Have you seen this from Stewart: [Link: www.comedycentral.com...]

246 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:19:12pm

re: #231 Iron Fist

You don't see many African-Americans in the tech side of industry very often, either. I've only worked with one. He was a good, hard worker and talented programmer. But he's the only black I've seen in the tech industry, including my time in school, in my entire career.

You don't see as many women as you do men, either, but there really is no comparison. It is troubling, because the tech field is the sector of the economy that is expanding at the greatest rate, or one of the greatest rates, in the entire economy. the rising tide may lift all boats, but there's no denying that some boats will rise farther and faster than others.

Not in the Denver area, it was big, it's taken a tumble like you wouldn't believe.

247 Macker  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:19:16pm

re: #17 jorline

Sorry for the quick OT.

President Obama Does First Formal TV Interview as President with Al-Arabiya

Her we go...Iran will have unconditional access to the WH soon.

Shows you where The One™'s priorities lie.

248 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:19:19pm

re: #236 NJDhockeyfan

Here we go again...

Israel mulling 1,000-for-1 prisoner exchange, open borders with Gaza as part of truce negotiations

That should mean 1000 for 1 deaths. If one Israeli is killed, 1000 palis get killed, for it to be proportionate.
Now I understand how Israel used "disproportionate" force - they didn't kill enough Hamssholes!

249 WriterMom  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:19:39pm

re: #234 Sharmuta

It would probably be easier to write to the zoo in Jerusalem and see if they can take care of the animals at least temporarily.

250 Occasional Reader  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:19:44pm

re: #177 WriterMom

Is it just me, or has The Annointed One actually had a pretty craptastic week, PR wise? I heard his approvals are down 15%, he's managed to piss off all the Republicans, the entire pro-life world, families of 9/11 victims and all of us who will NEVER FORGET and NEVER FORGIVE, and directed his attention-AS POTUS toward a talk-show radio host. Plus, he gaffetastically said "I WON" in response to criticism ("I won, lalallalalaal I am 10 years old), talked about how hot his wife is..and made some pretty great f^ck ups for American national security. What a week!

SILENCE!

GUARDS! SEIZE HER!

251 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:19:53pm

re: #243 newsjunkie_ky

Wonder how many of the people who voted for the 0ne, so they could tell their grandchildren they voted for 'hope and change' and the first AA president, will admit they voted for him in years to come?
'Yes, I voted to elect the 0ne and that is why you have to stand in the bread line today. Ain't Socialism grand.'

And that's why Grandma will be seeing Dr. Kervorkian tomorrow. Bye.

252 J.S.  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:19:58pm

re: #227 Kosh's Shadow

I thought (erroneously) that Obama would be more cautious, or more of a pragmatist...

253 MandyManners  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:20:03pm

re: #215 WriterMom

LOL. You know what a 'kuni' is in Farsi?

Ask JCM.

I like 'coons. They help tidy up nature.

254 WriterMom  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:20:16pm

re: #244 MandyManners

Like the Chinese curse.

255 Mich-again  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:20:55pm

No returns for searching "Gaza" at zooborns.com.

Apparently animals only ever die there.

256 Pietr  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:20:58pm

re: #242 gmsc

Do you mean review a post for consideration for a front page story/thread?

Yes-you are dead on, as usual!

257 Gort  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:21:32pm

re: #234 Sharmuta

Transportation costs would likely be significant, possible impediment to moving them state-side. Not without a paragraph in the 825bn boondoggle anyway.

Might an alternative be closer and more cost-effective? Perhaps the Baghdad Zoo? (no sarc tag).

258 pat  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:21:35pm

Little late here, but LGF had this same booby trap depicted in an earlier piece on the Muslomaniacs booby trapping the place earlier. Same 12 electrical cable etc.

259 [deleted]  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:21:36pm
260 Macker  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:21:42pm

re: #251 Kosh's Shadow

And that's why Grandma will be seeing Dr. Kervorkian tomorrow. Bye.

I'm surprised БХО didn't sign Dr. Death up as Secretary of Health & Human Services.

261 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:21:43pm

re: #252 J.S.

I thought (erroneously) that Obama would be more cautious, or more of a pragmatist...

I never expected he'd be THIS bad. He's done more damage in days than I thought he'd do in months.

262 WriterMom  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:22:08pm

re: #250 Occasional Reader

You'll have to catch me first!

I, WriterMom of Canada pledge!
I pledge to continue to MOCK the Annointed Messiahbama.
I pledge
I pledge blah blah blah

/take the pledge, dude

/pass the bong

263 pat  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:22:18pm

I really think Geraldo is a hysterical prick.

264 albusteve  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:22:31pm

re: #234 Sharmuta

Please help me save the gaza zoo animals

National Zoo
San Diego Zoo
Omaha's Henry Doorly Zoo

Thanks!

send them to Gitmo....seriously, the place is huge

265 MandyManners  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:22:56pm

re: #223 Maximu§

Hmmmm, whats up for next week?

Oh, The Dali-Bama will call for a "ban" on all Nuclear weapons starting with America's weapons first. Its a bigger version of the Liberals "gun-free" zones they have created in the worst cities for crime.

Part of me thinks he won't. I have no justification for that. It's just an idea.

Another part of me hopes he will 'cause it's gonna' light up conservatives.

266 Occasional Reader  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:23:55pm

re: #262 WriterMom

You'll have to catch me first!

I, WriterMom of Canada pledge!
I pledge to continue to MOCK the Annointed Messiahbama.
I pledge
I pledge blah blah blah

/take the pledge, dude

/pass the bong

Your hate speech against The One has not gone unnoticed. I am alerting the Canadian ThoughtCrime Commissariat.

267 gmsc  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:23:58pm

re: #230 WriterMom

That family has NO CLASS.

Cue Thornton Mellon . . .

268 MandyManners  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:23:59pm

re: #240 jaunte

*whack*

WE'RE TALKING ABOUT PEOPLE HERE.

269 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:24:04pm

re: #263 pat

I really think Geraldo is a hysterical prick.

No, Andy Dick is an hysterical prick.

270 newsjunkie_ky  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:24:07pm

re: #251 Kosh's Shadow

And that's why Grandma will be seeing Dr. Kervorkian tomorrow. Bye.

And, if nancy pelousi has her way, we'll go the way of China, 1 child per family.
The 0ne does love China.
Have you all seen this about The 0ne's little blue book?

271 Mich-again  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:24:15pm

re: #264 albusteve

send them to Gitmo....seriously, the place is huge

And Islands are great places for evolution to happen in fast forward.

272 William  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:24:34pm

Such a shame the lion didn't get a piece of the "bee" in the 3rd video, he would have received the full Siegfried & Roy treatment.

273 Maximu§  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:24:46pm

re: #248 Kosh's Shadow

That should mean 1000 for 1 deaths. If one Israeli is killed, 1000 palis get killed, for it to be proportionate.
Now I understand how Israel used "disproportionate" force - they didn't kill enough Hamssholes!

If Max ran the IDF, heres how that deal would go down: Do the trade, load the Palestinians on buses driven by Hamas drivers, hit the buses with airstrikes.

Hunker down and weather the s**tstorm afterwards.

274 MandyManners  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:25:03pm

re: #254 WriterMom

Like the Chinese curse.

Oh, indeed. Indeed.

275 jaunte  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:25:03pm

re: #268 MandyManners

You are correct, my pun was in bad taste.

276 Achilles Tang  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:25:10pm

It will be interesting to see which MSM and or EU outlets publish the Hamas version.

277 WriterMom  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:25:21pm

re: #266 Occasional Reader

They know me quite well. I only wish I could share the details of how I torment them. Alas-it's a big bad intratubie and stuff....

278 Scion9  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:25:21pm

re: #203 Sharmuta

They claim they can't even feed their population- how the hell are they feeding lions?!

Youtube Video

Two birds, one stone.

279 Hobbes  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:25:22pm

re: #147 Occasional Reader

Wow. We have a teenager in charge of the country. I feel so much better, don't you?

Not actually a teenager, but, he wants to act and be accepted as one of them.

280 OldLineTexan  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:25:26pm

re: #266 Occasional Reader

Your hate speech against The One has not gone unnoticed. I am alerting the Canadian ThoughtCrime Commissariat.

Unfortunately, they actually have one.

281 Dianna  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:25:51pm

re: #263 pat

I really think Geraldo is a hysterical prick.

What did he do now?

282 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:25:57pm

re: #270 newsjunkie_ky

Have you all seen this about The 0ne's little blue book?

Yep, I have one on order. Can't wait to get it. I intend to annotate it, greatly increase it's value.

283 Mich-again  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:26:09pm

re: #235 MandyManners

Aw, c'mon. That's just plain mean.

Who buries the ones Hamas kills off for conspiring (allegedly) against Hamas?

284 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:26:26pm

re: #270 newsjunkie_ky

And, if nancy pelousi has her way, we'll go the way of China, 1 child per family.
The 0ne does love China.
Have you all seen this about The 0ne's little blue book?

Yes, I'd better get mine before my community organizer takes me to a re-education camp.
/sarc. Maybe I should get some weapons instead. I live near this place

285 MandyManners  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:26:32pm

re: #275 jaunte

You are correct, my pun was in bad taste.

Why should we be as bad as the enemy?

286 OldLineTexan  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:26:36pm

re: #275 jaunte

You are correct, my pun was in bad taste.

No, Charlie, it just tastes bad.

287 Mich-again  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:26:41pm

re: #276 Naso Tang

It will be interesting to see which MSM and or EU outlets publish the Hamas version.

All of them. Search it.

288 J.S.  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:26:47pm

re: #280 OldLineTexan

and, sadly, it's not all that funny either...

289 gmsc  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:26:48pm

re: #256 Pietr

Yes-you are dead on, as usual!

Just use the Contact link at the top of the page in the left sidebar. It should open up a short space with room for your email address, subject, and message.

290 Dr. Shalit  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:26:53pm

re: #236 NJDhockeyfan

Here we go again...

Israel mulling 1,000-for-1 prisoner exchange, open borders with Gaza as part of truce negotiations

NJDhf -

Shalit is my cousin. I am unsure whether to feel complimented that his captors believe he is worth 1000 of them or feel that Israel is getting a Lousy Deal. I shall make no further comment on the matter because:

A. I want him Home.

B. I just might say things I would be sorry for tomorrow morning.

C. For A and B above, think I should say and do "Nite-All."

-S-

291 Occasional Reader  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:26:54pm

re: #277 WriterMom

They know me quite well. I only wish I could share the details of how I torment them. Alas-it's a big bad intratubie and stuff....

You do realize that tormenting the ThoughtCrime Commissariat is, itself, a ThoughtCrime, don't you? (They're a protected class, you see.)

292 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:27:20pm

re: #217 Sharmuta

I'm going to contact the DC, San Diego, and Omaha zoos.

God bless, and good luck. The problem may not be getting a zoo to take them, but getting Hamas to let them go.

Let us know how it goes?

293 OldLineTexan  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:27:22pm

re: #281 Dianna

What did he do now?

He had a massive hissy defending Blago. Insisted (screamed) that the impeachment was a kangaroo court.

294 Pietr  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:27:33pm

re: #265 MandyManners

Part of me thinks he won't. I have no justification for that. It's just an idea.

Another part of me hopes he will 'cause it's gonna' light up conservatives.

But, you'd be wrong in that wish, Ms Manners-he can destroy our nuclear deterrent with an order to the DOD-trying to sieze our guns would take a Constitutional amendment. Be afraid of his unilaterally disarming us-write your Representatives-that is SURRENDER!

295 gmsc  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:28:09pm

re: #286 OldLineTexan

No, Charlie, it just tastes bad.

Youtube Video
296 jaunte  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:28:25pm

re: #285 MandyManners

You're right.

297 WriterMom  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:28:56pm

re: #270 newsjunkie_ky

I spoke to a colleague from China a few weeks ago...an only child-a female. She said that most of her friends are unmarried and childless-they saw how unhappy most of the parents were and are completely put off of marriage and having a child. She also talked to me about the demographic imbalance (man made-unprecedented). I looked at her and said-communists...they're bastards. She nodded sadly.

298 melinwy  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:29:07pm

re: #290 Dr. Shalit

NJDhf -

Shalit is my cousin. I am unsure whether to feel complimented that his captors believe he is worth 1000 of them or feel that Israel is getting a Lousy Deal. I shall make no further comment on the matter because:

A. I want him Home.

B. I just might say things I would be sorry for tomorrow morning.

C. For A and B above, think I should say and do "Nite-All."

-S-

my prayers are with you and your family

299 Dianna  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:29:27pm

re: #293 OldLineTexan

He had a massive hissy defending Blago. Insisted (screamed) that the impeachment was a kangaroo court.

Oh.

How...fascinating, in a train-wreck sort of way.

Has Geraldo been drinking heavily?

300 MandyManners  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:29:28pm

re: #283 Mich-again

Who buries the ones Hamas kills off for conspiring (allegedly) against Hamas?

I don't know.

Surely the dictates of Mo. come into play and the dead are treated according to his word.

Oh, dear. No. Please, tell me that they are buried in a fitting manner.

Tell me that, Mich. Or, tell me the opposite.

I don't recall ever DEMANDING a link here but, I am DEMANDING a link now.

301 WriterMom  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:30:22pm

re: #290 Dr. Shalit

Thank you for making the abstract concrete. I pray he is alive and will be home soon, G-d willing.

302 pat  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:30:25pm

Obama The Oblivious.
That is how he shall be remembered. Like the ancient Chinese Emperors who thought they were God, and turned out to be the laughing stocks of the world.

303 OldLineTexan  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:30:36pm

re: #299 Dianna

Oh.

How...fascinating, in a train-wreck sort of way.

Has Geraldo been drinking heavily?

I hear his moustache is badly in need of rehab, but there's been no attempt at intervention yet.

304 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:30:46pm

re: #298 melinwy

my prayers are with you and your family

Mine too.

305 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:30:50pm

re: #290 Dr. Shalit

NJDhf -

Shalit is my cousin. I am unsure whether to feel complimented that his captors believe he is worth 1000 of them or feel that Israel is getting a Lousy Deal. I shall make no further comment on the matter because:

A. I want him Home.

B. I just might say things I would be sorry for tomorrow morning.

C. For A and B above, think I should say and do "Nite-All."

-S-

WOW...prayers for you and your family.

306 MandyManners  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:31:23pm

re: #294 Pietr

But, you'd be wrong in that wish, Ms Manners-he can destroy our nuclear deterrent with an order to the DOD-trying to sieze our guns would take a Constitutional amendment. Be afraid of his unilaterally disarming us-write your Representatives-that is SURRENDER!

Ummmmmmmmmmm....no. It does not work that way.

DON'T DRINK THE GATORADE.

307 NY Nana  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:31:41pm

re: #76 Bobibutu

'Boogie' has a message for you. ;)

Youtube Video
308 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:31:42pm

OT -

Officials: Family planning money may be dropped

[Link: apnews.myway.com...]

309 [deleted]  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:31:50pm
310 MandyManners  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:32:15pm

re: #296 jaunte

You knew that already.

311 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:32:19pm

re: #302 pat

Obama The Oblivious.
That is how he shall be remembered. Like the ancient Chinese Emperors who thought they were God, and turned out to be the laughing stocks of the world.

'Although they were always ready, the Danes had very bad memories, and would forget they had already been paid the Dane-geld, and come back for it. By that time, Aethelred was always Unready again."

Will Cuppy, I believe

312 unrealizedviewpoint  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:32:20pm

re: #293 OldLineTexan

He had a massive hissy defending Blago. Insisted (screamed) that the impeachment was a kangaroo court.

Geraldo defending Blago? What? No. Where? O'Reilly?

313 Ojoe  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:32:27pm

re: #304 SanFranciscoZionist

Also mine if you don't mind Catholic ones.

314 unrealizedviewpoint  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:33:38pm

re: #308 Walter L. Newton

OT -

Officials: Family planning money may be dropped

[Link: apnews.myway.com...]

Some good news for a bad day.

315 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:34:20pm

re: #309 Iron Fist

Well, that's why I'm working in the theatre and not programming full time. I'm not crazy, I like 80 thou a year instead of the 18 thou I get now. If there was work, I'd have found it, I have 30 years.

I'm not saying it's not out there, but the Denver area is very age minded, as in 30 something.

Nuff said?

316 Pietr  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:34:20pm

re: #289 gmsc

I've used that before-never even got a reply, even after becoming a member. I never sent links, but did send questions I hoped to get answers to. I'll consider it for future use, but have had no response previously...:>((

317 [deleted]  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:34:25pm
318 newsjunkie_ky  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:34:52pm

re: #297 WriterMom

I spoke to a colleague from China a few weeks ago...an only child-a female. She said that most of her friends are unmarried and childless-they saw how unhappy most of the parents were and are completely put off of marriage and having a child. She also talked to me about the demographic imbalance (man made-unprecedented). I looked at her and said-communists...they're bastards. She nodded sadly.


I do feel bad for those poor people. That woman in China that paid someone to strangle her 9 year old son so she could have another child with her new husband is beyond belief.
Old nancy wants to bring back the eugenics movement to help the states deal with the costs and burdens of too many children.

319 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:35:08pm

re: #314 unrealizedviewpoint

Some good news for a bad day.

Not really, they will find another way to get the money out there. Have you ever seen a politician who promised to give away some money not find a way to do it? Get real.

320 VioletTiger  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:35:30pm

re: #194 Mich-again

Here is one.
President Obama Sends Off George Mitchell to Middle East: 'Compared to Steroids, This is Going to Be a Breeze'


Does he realize he IS the president, not just playing one on TV?

321 Occasional Reader  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:35:46pm

Good night.

322 Shr_Nfr  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:36:00pm

Once again, I take a bit of issue over the characterization of the last film. He is not really injuring the animals involved and "hostess" of the show comes on in the last part of it to say that they are only showing this to teach people how not to behave. She then scolds the bee and tells him that his behaviour was very very wrong and he should not do it again. For once Hamas sent a good message. We here would not have done it the same way, but I agree with the message that they were trying to communicate to the kids watching.

323 JacksonTn  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:36:41pm

Obama Muslim Interview Part 1:

Youtube Video

Obama Muslim Interview Part 2:

Youtube Video
324 newsjunkie_ky  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:36:46pm

re: #308 Walter L. Newton

OT -

Officials: Family planning money may be dropped

[Link: apnews.myway.com...]

if obama actually did this and gets them to pull that then I will give him his due.

325 MandyManners  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:36:46pm

re: #317 Iron Fist

I try to be considerably worse than my enemies. It tends to cut down on the people who want to be my enemy.

Within the previous context, you would feed your vanquished opponents to animals?

326 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:37:30pm

Olbermann Suggests Gitmo Inspired Innocent Ex-Detainee to Become Al-Qaeda Leader


If we are to believe Keith Olbermann’s latest wild theory, an innocent, mild mannered furniture salesman and humanitarian from Riyadh may have been inspired to become an al-Qaeda leader because he was falsely imprisoned at Guantanamo Bay, courtesy of Olbermann’s favorite target, the Bush administration, who "created [his] reason for hating us."

Even for Keith Olbermann, this takes the cake, and makes you wonder if the rumors are true that the MSNBC host doesn’t really believe half of what he says, but only recites his rants and conspiracy theories for ratings. In light of reports that a former Guantanamo Bay detainee, Said Ali al-Shihri, who was released in 2007 and has now become an al-Qaeda leader in Yemen believed responsible for a September embassy bombing, Olbermann seemed to seriously suggest that al-Shihri may have been an innocent man when he was first jailed at Gitmo, and then became a terrorist leader as a result of his imprisonment. The Countdown host plugged the story before a commercial break: "But perhaps the real question is: Since we never tried him, never found him guilty, and the Bush administration set him free, what if he wasn’t a terrorist in the first place but we turned him into one by sending him to Gitmo?"

327 Ojoe  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:37:36pm

re: #320 VioletTiger

I think the O has no sense of reality because the culture here did not deal him reality all along, just the unearned advantages of affirmative action, either officially or absorbed by osmosis.

328 MandyManners  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:37:48pm

re: #321 Occasional Reader

Good night.

*snooze*

329 newsjunkie_ky  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:38:33pm

re: #326 NJDhockeyfan

Olbermann Suggests Gitmo Inspired Innocent Ex-Detainee to Become Al-Qaeda Leader

the man continues to be deranged.

330 J.S.  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:38:42pm

re: #322 Shr_Nfr

I don't think you "get it." The whole juxtaposition of these videos (taken at different times, etc.) is what's important. It reveals the sheer, outlandish, disgusting HYPOCRISY of HAMAS. the video "message" which you're praising, OBVIOUSLY, means nothing when one considers HOW HAMAS BEHAVES. Don't you see this?

331 Shr_Nfr  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:39:00pm

re: #320 VioletTiger

Narcissistic Personality Disorder does things like that. No breeze there until they get rid of Hez and Hamas to the last shaheed shithead.

332 gmsc  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:39:05pm

re: #316 Pietr

I've used that before-never even got a reply, even after becoming a member. I never sent links, but did send questions I hoped to get answers to. I'll consider it for future use, but have had no response previously...:>((

I don't know that it gets you a reply. I think you either get your link posted or not.

Another way is to have a post with certain links, and have many people upding it, so it gets noticed.

333 pat  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:39:17pm

Actually a President can disarm America, it has been done before. Wilson is the most known, but Carter reduced our Navy Fleet by 25%. The President can also order a stand down, and redeployment, out of hand. This has been done many times. Clinton had orders not to fire back, Reagan had guards in Lebanon with empty guns, Bush , perhaps unbeknown to him, had a lawyer execute an instruction that Mosques were not to be targeted, thus letting Omar escape into one.

334 VioletTiger  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:39:21pm

re: #322 Shr_Nfr

Once again, I take a bit of issue over the characterization of the last film. He is not really injuring the animals involved and "hostess" of the show comes on in the last part of it to say that they are only showing this to teach people how not to behave. She then scolds the bee and tells him that his behaviour was very very wrong and he should not do it again. For once Hamas sent a good message. We here would not have done it the same way, but I agree with the message that they were trying to communicate to the kids watching.


How do you know he hadn't injured the animals? How would you like to be swung around by your tail to show children they shouldn't swing you by your tail?

335 unrealizedviewpoint  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:39:28pm

re: #290 Dr. Shalit

There are no words. Many lizards are thinking of you and yours, many are praying.

336 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:39:41pm

re: #315 Walter L. Newton

Well, that's why I'm working in the theatre and not programming full time. I'm not crazy, I like 80 thou a year instead of the 18 thou I get now. If there was work, I'd have found it, I have 30 years.

I'm not saying it's not out there, but the Denver area is very age minded, as in 30 something.

Nuff said?

I've found a few places in MA that are interested in experience. It isn't always easy, though.

337 solomonpanting  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:40:32pm

re: #326 NJDhockeyfan

Obama Oprah Olbermann

Agent double oh zero.

338 pat  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:40:32pm

re: #311 SanFranciscoZionist

LOL, I like it.

339 [deleted]  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:40:33pm
340 slokat  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:40:58pm

Hhmmm, Zoological link to the threads topic - albeit quite dated: Ancient Armored Whales

...or as the article points out, maybe it's just turtles.

341 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:41:05pm

re: #322 Shr_Nfr

Once again, I take a bit of issue over the characterization of the last film. He is not really injuring the animals involved and "hostess" of the show comes on in the last part of it to say that they are only showing this to teach people how not to behave. She then scolds the bee and tells him that his behaviour was very very wrong and he should not do it again. For once Hamas sent a good message. We here would not have done it the same way, but I agree with the message that they were trying to communicate to the kids watching.

So, the means justifies the end?

342 MandyManners  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:41:21pm

re: #331 Shr_Nfr

Narcissistic Personality Disorder does things like that. No breeze there until they get rid of Hez and Hamas to the last shaheed shithead.

NPD.

343 gmsc  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:41:50pm

re: #340 slokat

Hhmmm, Zoological link to the threads topic - albeit quite dated: Ancient Armored Whales

...or as the article points out, maybe it's just turtles.

Yeah, but to get to the "turtles" part of the article, you have to go all the way down.
;)

344 albusteve  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:41:51pm

re: #325 MandyManners

Within the previous context, you would feed your vanquished opponents to animals?

render unto Ceasar....

345 unrealizedviewpoint  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:41:54pm

re: #319 Walter L. Newton

Not really, they will find another way to get the money out there. Have you ever seen a politician who promised to give away some money not find a way to do it? Get real.

The news is: Family planning monies (abortion dollars) will be delayed. That's good news.

346 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:42:00pm

Ted Nugent for United States Senate

The United States Senate desperately needs an inspiring patriot who has demonstrated exceptional talent, leadership, intelligence and integrity. The venerable Ted Nugent is a man who conservatives know well and respect. He is someone who could attract votes outside party lines with his bold and refreshing candor and unapologetically bring back traditional manhood to a group that has long been castrated by political correctness.
347 Sharmuta  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:42:14pm

re: #257 Gort

My guess is those three zoos would have the contacts needed to best help those animals.

348 Scion9  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:42:22pm

re: #322 Shr_Nfr

I think you kind of missed the point.

349 darkster2400  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:42:30pm

here's another example of life under Hamas:
Hamas Spice Girls?

350 swamprat  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:43:10pm

re: #325 MandyManners

Slowly!

351 Shr_Nfr  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:43:26pm

re: #330 J.S.

I get it, believe me I get it. However, juxtaposition is a method to associate actions with each other even if they are disparate and I will not take the bait. That is a method that the MSM uses to justify things. I saw the IDF zoo pictures when they were first made. I know their content.

352 darkster2400  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:43:28pm

re: #346 NJDhockeyfan

he could play lead guitar in the Senate Band

353 MandyManners  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:43:37pm

re: #290 Dr. Shalit

I bow before you, sir.

354 Pietr  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:43:50pm

re: #317 Iron Fist

I try to be considerably worse than my enemies. It tends to cut down on the people who want to be my enemy.

I make that plain as well. It's funny when a 61 year old tells a teen to twenties idiot, "Go ahead-make My day"....and as the idiot
(and friends, usually) look in your eyes-and see nothing but darkness-they mumble more threats/bluster/whatever-but they go away-fast as they can, without APPARENTLY retreating. One day, I may meet one who is as unafraid of DEATH as me.....It'd be interesting....Cheers.

355 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:44:15pm

re: #349 darkster2400


OT -

I thought you left. Just like a bad migraine, you keep coming back.

Back to our regularly scheduled topic.

356 avanti  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:44:51pm

re: #177 WriterMom

Is it just me, or has The Annointed One actually had a pretty craptastic week, PR wise? I heard his approvals are down 15%, he's managed to piss off all the Republicans, the entire pro-life world, families of 9/11 victims and all of us who will NEVER FORGET and NEVER FORGIVE, and directed his attention-AS POTUS toward a talk-show radio host. Plus, he gaffetastically said "I WON" in response to criticism ("I won, lalallalalaal I am 10 years old), talked about how hot his wife is..and made some pretty great f^ck ups for American national security. What a week!


To be fair and balanced, his approval is up a point and the second highest early poll in history. The 15 point story seems to be a apples and oranges comparison with how he handled the transition. It is early and well could drop.

poll

357 Sharmuta  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:44:52pm

re: #292 SanFranciscoZionist

God bless, and good luck. The problem may not be getting a zoo to take them, but getting Hamas to let them go.

Let us know how it goes?

I agree- but the attention these zoos could bring to the issue is large.

358 albusteve  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:44:53pm

re: #352 darkster2400

he could play lead guitar in the Senate Band

he's a marginal guitarist...so that works I suppose...

359 Archimedes  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:45:00pm

Palestinians have become so ridiculous their arguments might as well be "We attack them, so then they think they have to attack us. So what we have to do to defend ourselves? Huh? They attack us in response, so we have to set booby trap in zoo. See? It all goes back to the occupation. And even if we weren't occupied, they weren't thinking about occupying us. It's the thought that counts. See?"

And the msm laps it up, of course.

360 Maximu§  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:45:06pm

Time to blast away on Gears of War 2....cya all tomarrow. We sure could use some good news.

361 Gort  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:45:21pm

re: #324 newsjunkie_ky

If he actually did appeal for removal of family planning funds from the 'stimulus bill', you can bet it was motivated by political calculation: Give up a little bit now to appear 'reasonable' but take a lot more later on.

362 Mich-again  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:45:22pm

re: #300 MandyManners

Surely the dictates of Mo. come into play and the dead are treated according to his word.

Fatah rolls like this..

Three days ago, his soldiers exhumed four bodies that had been hastily buried in one of the prison basements, he says wearily. They were able to identify a fellow al-Qassam Brigades member, Nasser al-Juju. They believe he was killed shortly before he was discovered: "The others have been lying in this basement for a long time."

Hamas rolls like this..

But Khaled Abu Toameh — the brave and distinguished correspondent for The Jerusalem Post — has reported that 35 Fatah activists have been summarily executed, while more than twice that number have been shot in the legs or had their hands broken.
363 darkster2400  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:45:53pm

re: #355 Walter L. Newton

Pardon me - you object to my postings here? What do you think I have done wrong now?

Look at your post above at 269 - please.....

364 NY Nana  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:46:04pm

/Bad, bad Israel..here is one of their cruel zoos, in Jerusalem, and other animal torture sites, in some more cities in tiny Israel.

The Israelis treat the zoo inhabitants at least 1,000,000 times better than the arabs treat their children. Homicide bombing is a career with no future.

365 slokat  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:46:20pm

re: #343 gmsc

thanks, sometimes my humor is too subtle to be noticed...

366 Hobbes  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:46:37pm

re: #298 melinwy

my prayers are with you and your family

Ditto.

367 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:46:55pm

re: #363 darkster2400

Pardon me - you object to my postings here? What do you think I have done wrong now?

Look at your post above at 269 - please.....

Oops, silly me. I must have you confused with someone else. My apology.

368 Dianna  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:47:13pm

re: #346 NJDhockeyfan

I wish to point out that the one article he wrote for American Spectator was incoherent drivel, and contained the words - I kid you not - "My balls are very hairy."

No.

369 albusteve  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:47:28pm

re: #356 avanti

To be fair and balanced, his approval is up a point and the second highest early poll in history. The 15 point story seems to be a apples and oranges comparison with how he handled the transition. It is early and well could drop.

poll

this fixation on polls has led to trouble in the past...who gives a shit, it's just another worthless poll...not worthy of any attention

370 swamprat  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:47:38pm

re: #327 Ojoe

I think the O has no sense of reality because the culture here did not deal him reality all along, just the unearned advantages of affirmative action, either officially or absorbed by osmosis.


What's the matter with you? He's OBAMA, fool!

/sarc

371 darkster2400  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:47:45pm

re: #367 Walter L. Newton

you are a very sarcastic person - how come you didn't object to some of the later language on the other thread?

What is wrong with my postings here?

372 MandyManners  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:47:54pm

re: #344 albusteve

render unto Ceasar....

Huh?

373 Kragar  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:47:55pm

re: #368 Dianna

I wish to point out that the one article he wrote for American Spectator was incoherent drivel, and contained the words - I kid you not - "My balls are very hairy."

No.

They have creams to take care of that.

374 newsjunkie_ky  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:48:18pm

re: #361 Gort

If he actually did appeal for removal of family planning funds from the 'stimulus bill', you can bet it was motivated by political calculation: Give up a little bit now to appear 'reasonable' but take a lot more later on.


You are right.
He really scares the sh1t out of me.

375 Mich-again  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:48:20pm

I don't like Ted all that much but there is no doubt I would vote for him over either Karl Levin or Debbie Stabbincow.

376 Bloodnok  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:48:25pm

re: #347 Sharmuta

My guess is those three zoos would have the contacts needed to best help those animals.

I just sent a message to the Jerusalem zoo.

377 notutopia  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:48:37pm

Dr. Shalit, my heartfelt sorrow and prayers are being said for the misery you and your family have been enduring. May your dear cousin be returned to his mother Israel and to your family. No matter what the cost.
Amen.

378 [deleted]  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:48:52pm
379 MandyManners  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:49:01pm

re: #344 albusteve

render unto Ceasar....

.

380 Sharmuta  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:49:05pm

re: #376 Bloodnok

I just sent a message to the Jerusalem zoo.

Thank you so much!

381 J.S.  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:49:24pm

re: #351 Shr_Nfr

what? "bait?" What are you talking about? Explain, please...since I really doubt (from what I'm reading) that you "get it." (I have limited time here, so I may not get around to answering you, if you decide to reply..)

382 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:49:35pm

re: #368 Dianna

I wish to point out that the one article he wrote for American Spectator was incoherent drivel, and contained the words - I kid you not - "My balls are very hairy."

No.

I'll take "hairy balls" over nutless politicians any day.. LOL

383 Dianna  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:50:04pm

re: #373 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

They have creams to take care of that.

Perhaps he should use them, and not tell us about it.

I will never be able to take that man seriously.

384 albusteve  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:50:16pm

re: #372 MandyManners

Huh?


feed your enemies to the beasts...Ceasar did altho htere is some dispute as to who the beasts were...he won a civil war and was less than kind to the losers

385 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:51:00pm

re: #371 darkster2400

you are a very sarcastic person - how come you didn't object to some of the later language on the other thread? What is wrong with my postings here?

Would you like me to start a poll on the word you used on the other thread. I guess you didn't read or pay attention to anything that some other Lizards said about your use of that word.

Yes, I am very sarcastic, and satirical, sometimes funny, sometimes course, a little crazy but generally I play nicely with most people.

386 gmsc  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:51:20pm

"The poor have hope,
The Rich can buy soap."
-Lee Marvin an Clint Eastwood

Youtube Video
387 Macker  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:51:22pm

re: #282 Walter L. Newton

Yep, I have one on order. Can't wait to get it. I intend to annotate it, greatly increase it's value.

Would it make good Target Practice?

388 OldLineTexan  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:51:55pm

Maybe dingos ate your enemies...

389 Bloodnok  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:53:46pm

re: #380 Sharmuta

Thank you so much!

I basically said that I understood that they are a zoo and as such they are not responsible for solving these political problems. But with respect to the safety of these animals any attention that they could give the matter would be wonderful indeed. I also let 'em know about a nice pro-Israel website where they could see these videos (hint-hint).

390 avanti  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:53:55pm

re: #369 albusteve

this fixation on polls has led to trouble in the past...who gives a shit, it's just another worthless poll...not worthy of any attention

Fine with me, but if he does really drop 15 points in the Gallop, I'll bet a beer it gets mentioned. I think polls this early are just silly BTW.

391 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:54:09pm

re: #378 Iron Fist

Let's just say the "rays" from Boulder has seeped out all over this area. If you are middle aged, male and white, you need not apply. There is so much diversity in employment here, you need a master degree in HR to prevent your company from being sued for what ever.

It's very depressing.

392 OldLineTexan  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:55:15pm

re: #391 Walter L. Newton

Let's just say the "rays" from Boulder has seeped out all over this area. If you are middle aged, male and white, you need not apply. There is so much diversity in employment here, you need a master degree in HR to prevent your company from being sued for what ever.

It's very depressing.

This is why I am thankful to have my job. The above is a standard model.

393 Render  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:55:16pm

re: #379 MandyManners

You rang?

LURCH,
R

394 melinwy  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:55:29pm

[Link: www.timesonline.co.uk...]

Mark Thompson, the Director-General of the BBC, is quite right to refuse to broadcast the appeal of the Disaster Emergency Committee (DEC) for humanitarian relief for Gaza, but not for the reason he thinks. He is under the impression that it will damage the BBC's reputation for impartiality in reporting the Israel-Palestine question, but the fact is that the BBC does not have any such reputation, having for years been institutionally pro-Palestinian and anti-Israeli. The reason that his decision is brave and right, however, is that many of the 13 charities that make up the DEC are even more mired in anti-Israeli assumptions than the BBC itself.

395 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:55:30pm

re: #387 Macker

Would it make good Target Practice?

I don't know. And I'm not going to use my copy to find out. I am going to keep it in my pocket, read it every day, always have a pen nearby so I can make notes in it, put it next to my bed at nighttime while I am asleep, and thank Obama...

LOL

396 albusteve  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:56:06pm

re: #391 Walter L. Newton

Let's just say the "rays" from Boulder has seeped out all over this area. If you are middle aged, male and white, you need not apply. There is so much diversity in employment here, you need a master degree in HR to prevent your company from being sued for what ever.

It's very depressing.

botox and a sex change Walter...give it a shot

397 OldLineTexan  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:56:28pm

re: #395 Walter L. Newton

I don't know. And I'm not going to use my copy to find out. I am going to keep it in my pocket, read it every day, always have a pen nearby so I can make notes in it, put it next to my bed at nighttime while I am asleep, and thank Obama...

LOL

If you put it under your pillow, perhaps the Obama rayz will seep upwards into yer noggin.

398 newsjunkie_ky  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:56:29pm

Milestone..........

"....of the 1.4 million that attended Obama's inauguration, only 14 missed
work."

399 Scion9  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:56:33pm

re: #391 Walter L. Newton

Sounds like being in the Baltimore-Washington Corridor, or NoVa. All the 'diversity' applies, except you also need security clearance.

400 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:57:12pm

re: #392 OldLineTexan

This is why I am thankful to have my job. The above is a standard model.

No kidding. I really advise all my friends, even my best friend who is only 37, to keep the damn job. Bite your lip and stay. I've kept this guy in a job for 10 years only because I practically have to tie him down when he gets antsy.

He thanks me a lot.

401 [deleted]  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:57:20pm
402 MandyManners  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:57:28pm

Wee One has had some issues.

Later.

403 OldLineTexan  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:57:41pm

re: #399 Scion9

Sounds like being in the Baltimore-Washington Corridor, or NoVa. All the 'diversity' applies, except you also need security clearance.

Man, that's racist. Don't you have to have a nirth certifikit to get one of those?

/////////

404 slokat  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:57:43pm

re: #396 albusteve

Damn, talking about being out of brain bleach at the wrong time...

/

405 darkster2400  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:58:22pm

re: #385 Walter L. Newton

so why did you not also object to language in comments 670 and 671 in that thread? And why did you use the language above about Andy Dick?

Like YOU said - this is not my site - NOR yours. Start a poll all you want - some will agree with you (as some did) and some with me (as some did) - also look at the flow of my responses and the inaccurate way you characterized them.....

I guess you'll get your way - I cannot be bothered to deal with your sarcasm while I post legitimate comments - so I'll leave - thanks a bunch

406 gmsc  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:58:26pm

re: #402 MandyManners

Wee One has had some issues.

Later.

{Mandy}
{Wee One}

407 OldLineTexan  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:59:26pm

re: #400 Walter L. Newton

No kidding. I really advise all my friends, even my best friend who is only 37, to keep the damn job. Bite your lip and stay. I've kept this guy in a job for 10 years only because I practically have to tie him down when he gets antsy.

He thanks me a lot.

Kepp on keepin' on. I am 46, the yougest child is 9. I got a few years left before I can tune in turn on, and drop out. Maybe eat yucca in the wilderness with Euell Gibbons' ghost.

408 realwest  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:59:32pm

Good evening y'all - gee I'm really late tonight, but had chores which had to be attended to. What are we talking about?

409 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:59:41pm

re: #399 Scion9

Sounds like being in the Baltimore-Washington Corridor, or NoVa. All the 'diversity' applies, except you also need security clearance.

I have 85p clearance (I believe that the correct designation). I did a couple of months at Lockheed/Martin about 4 years ago. But, I'm 56, male and white. Laid off from the DOE after 13 years as a contractor 5 years ago and only have had a few short term contracts since then.

410 christmasghost  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:59:50pm

i didn't have time to read all the comments but did anyone else have an overwhelming urge to let those lions out of their cage?

411 MandyManners  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:59:56pm

re: #402 MandyManners

Wee One has had some issues.

Later.


BTW, that's the same name I have for The Kid.

Does anyone have any problem with that?

I didn't think so.

Fuck you if you do.

412 Sharmuta  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 8:59:58pm

OT: Chili Cheese Fritos are from the devil.

413 OldLineTexan  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 9:00:22pm

re: #402 MandyManners

Wee One has had some issues.

Later.

If that's one of those double entendres, take it easy on the lad.

414 gmsc  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 9:00:31pm

BBL - I have some personal projects to attend to.

415 darkster2400  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 9:00:42pm

re: #411 MandyManners

oooooo - watch out - Walter Newton the language cop will get you for that.......oh Walter?

416 OldLineTexan  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 9:01:01pm

re: #408 realwest

Good evening y'all - gee I'm really late tonight, but had chores which had to be attended to. What are we talking about?

Not a g-damned thing.

/

417 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 9:01:11pm

re: #405 darkster2400

That was quick. Bye.

418 itellu3times  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 9:01:17pm

re: #309 Iron Fist

I knew that they were having problems in Silly Valley, but a lot of that had to do with all of the other insane bullshit that goes along with being in Silly Valley. Where I am, things are considerably better. I'm in no danger of losing my job (unless I die, but that won't trouble me :-), and I'm making the best money that I've ever made in my life. I might could get a little more money if I shopped around, but my work environment is also about as good as I could hope to have.

There a couple of places in town that might be a little more fun (Remotech does robots for EOD and related things), but I am well satisfied where I'm at. I know I'm luckey to have the job I do, I don't doubt that.

But I'd have thought work in tech would be relatively good pretty much anywhere major in the United States. It is troubling to learn that I'm wrong about that.

Tech has always been very "age-ist", you turn 40 and half the jobs out there are closed to you. Well, maybe the bottom half, and what did you want, but even so. What hurts the most is that average salaries in the field have been going down for twenty years, and down sharply in the last ten, and down VERY sharply in the last three. Many reasons for that, H-1B workers and outsourcing being the largest, but not at all the only one.

So, it's still a relatively good way to make a living, compared to digging ditches, but it's less good from year to year, both as an industry and as the individual ages, and the combination really hurts.

419 Killgore Trout  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 9:01:26pm
"Before someone comes I will leave this cage"

I just realized how cleverly Charles put together this post. Heh.

420 MandyManners  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 9:01:28pm

Goodness.

421 [deleted]  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 9:01:46pm
422 darkster2400  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 9:01:55pm

re: #417 Walter L. Newton

typical - don't respond....

423 OldLineTexan  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 9:02:08pm

re: #412 Sharmuta

OT: Chili Cheese Fritos are from the devil.

Is that good, or bad?

424 Sharmuta  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 9:03:04pm

re: #423 OldLineTexan

They're addicting.

425 Charles Johnson  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 9:03:33pm

re: #322 Shr_Nfr

Once again, I take a bit of issue over the characterization of the last film. He is not really injuring the animals involved and "hostess" of the show comes on in the last part of it to say that they are only showing this to teach people how not to behave. She then scolds the bee and tells him that his behaviour was very very wrong and he should not do it again. For once Hamas sent a good message. We here would not have done it the same way, but I agree with the message that they were trying to communicate to the kids watching.

What the hell are you talking about? What's happening in that video is obvious animal abuse. You don't swing cats around by their tails and throw rocks at lions to demonstrate how NOT to treat animals. This is "a good message?" Are you nuts?

426 albusteve  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 9:03:47pm

re: #422 darkster2400

typical - don't respond....

stick around eh?....just lurk for awhile you know?

427 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 9:03:57pm

re: #407 OldLineTexan

Kepp on keepin' on. I am 46, the yougest child is 9. I got a few years left before I can tune in turn on, and drop out. Maybe eat yucca in the wilderness with Euell Gibbons' ghost.

You got it. The way things are going, no need to rock the boat. Just recently (I think you know this) but I have a company that may be interested in me, will know more this week, but still, I really don't care so much what I am doing right now, as long as I can pay the bills, which are about 900 a month.

So, yep, keep on keeping on and big deep breaths.

428 MandyManners  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 9:04:08pm

Ergo

429 slokat  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 9:04:14pm

re: #409 Walter L. Newton

So, you need to establish a good way to get grounded, so that the energy has a easy path to follow?

/electrical analogy off

430 OldLineTexan  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 9:04:38pm

re: #424 Sharmuta

They're addicting.

Oh. I cannot be allowed Cheetos for basically the same reason.

431 darkster2400  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 9:04:39pm

re: #426 albusteve

?

432 realwest  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 9:04:43pm

re: #416 OldLineTexan
Hey that can't be true - we're always talking about something out here!
How are ya doing tonight OLT?

433 newsjunkie_ky  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 9:05:28pm

Good night you all.

434 OldLineTexan  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 9:05:35pm

re: #427 Walter L. Newton

It's been said, but best of luck and let us know.

435 Dianna  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 9:05:59pm

re: #422 darkster2400

Little advice:

When people start sniping back and forth over the course of several threads, it gets really tiresome to the rest of us. Particularly those of us who have no clue what you two are going on about.

Disagreements should be limited to one thread.

Coldness and scrolling-over for a few days to weeks works well, too.

Even if you cordially despise someone, the best way to deal with it is by keeping interaction to a minimum.

436 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 9:06:24pm

Too late to save the planet...

Global warming is 'irreversible'

A team of environmental researchers in the US has warned many effects of climate change are irreversible.

The scientists concluded global temperatures could remain high for 1,000 years, even if carbon emissions can somehow be halted.

Their report was sponsored by the US Department of Energy and comes as President Obama announces a review of vehicle emission standards.

Go ahead and buy your SUVs. It doesn't matter anymore.

437 Westward Ho  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 9:06:25pm

In a war all incidents which potray the enemy as psychopaths ought to be investigated thoroughly as the incident is of immense propaganda value to the other side. The killing of babies by Iraqi soldiers is a classic case in deceitfully motherfuckerizing the other.

438 albusteve  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 9:06:30pm

re: #431 darkster2400

?

dont let anyone run you off...

439 legalpad  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 9:06:39pm

re: #411 MandyManners

BTW, that's the same name I have for The Kid.

Does anyone have any problem with that?

I didn't think so.

Fuck you if you do.

LOL! I get on and this is the first thing I read -

440 OldLineTexan  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 9:06:56pm

re: #432 realwest

Hey that can't be true - we're always talking about something out here!
How are ya doing tonight OLT?

Suddenly, I want Cheetos...

/

Actually, I am about to turn in. Kind of a long day, but I did get to play with rusty rectangles of quarter inch plate steel...

441 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 9:06:56pm

re: #418 itellu3times

Tech has always been very "age-ist", you turn 40 and half the jobs out there are closed to you. Well, maybe the bottom half, and what did you want, but even so. What hurts the most is that average salaries in the field have been going down for twenty years, and down sharply in the last ten, and down VERY sharply in the last three. Many reasons for that, H-1B workers and outsourcing being the largest, but not at all the only one.

So, it's still a relatively good way to make a living, compared to digging ditches, but it's less good from year to year, both as an industry and as the individual ages, and the combination really hurts.

And at this point in my life, since I am single, I don't need the 80 thousand that I was making 5 years ago. I saw some things coming, saw my ex-wife going south etc. so I started paying off stuff and I came out with a 20 year old's budget.

But, even those 40 thousand a year jobs are going to the 30's something. It seems that 30 years in IT as an analyst and programmer doesn't count so much.

442 Dianna  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 9:07:01pm

re: #433 newsjunkie_ky

Night!

443 NY Nana  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 9:07:48pm

re: #30 Killgore Trout

Happy birthday, and many, many more!

Youtube Video
444 Westward Ho  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 9:08:11pm
Suffer the Little Children
Every big media event needs what journalists and flacks alike refer to as "the hook." An ideal hook becomes the central element of a story that makes it newsworthy, evokes a strong emotional response, and sticks in the memory. In the case of the Gulf War, the "hook" was invented by Hill & Knowlton. In style, substance and mode of delivery, it bore an uncanny resemblance to England's World War I hearings that accused German soldiers of killing babies.

On October 10, 1990, the Congressional Human Rights Caucus held a hearing on Capitol Hill which provided the first opportunity for formal presentations of Iraqi human rights violations. Outwardly, the hearing resembled an official congressional proceeding, but appearances were deceiving. In reality, the Human Rights Caucus, chaired by California Democrat Tom Lantos and Illinois Republican John Porter, was simply an association of politicians. Lantos and Porter were also co-chairs of the Congressional Human Rights Foundation, a legally separate entity that occupied free office space valued at $3,000 a year in Hill & Knowlton's Washington, DC office. Notwithstanding its congressional trappings, the Congressional Human Rights Caucus served as another Hill & Knowlton front group, which - like all front groups - used a noble-sounding name to disguise its true purpose.80

Only a few astute observers noticed the hypocrisy in Hill & Knowlton's use of the term "human rights." One of those observers was John MacArthur, author of The Second Front, which remains the best book written about the manipulation of the news media during the Gulf War. In the fall of 1990, MacArthur reported, Hill & Knowlton's Washington switchboard was simultaneously fielding calls for the Human Rights Foundation and for "government representatives of Indonesia, another H&K client. Like H&K client Turkey, Indonesia is a practitioner of naked aggression, having seized . . . the former Portuguese colony of East Timor in 1975. Since the annexation of East Timor, the Indonesian government has killed, by conservative estimate, about 100,000 inhabitants of the region."81

MacArthur also noticed another telling detail about the October 1990 hearings: "The Human Rights Caucus is not a committee of congress, and therefore it is unencumbered by the legal accouterments that would make a witness hesitate before he or she lied. ... Lying under oath in front of a congressional committee is a crime; lying from under the cover of anonymity to a caucus is merely public relations."82

In fact, the most emotionally moving testimony on October 10 came from a 15-year-old Kuwaiti girl, known only by her first name of Nayirah. According to the Caucus, Nayirah's full name was being kept confidential to prevent Iraqi reprisals against her family in occupied Kuwait. Sobbing, she described what she had seen with her own eyes in a hospital in Kuwait City. Her written testimony was passed out in a media kit prepared by Citizens for a Free Kuwait. "I volunteered at the al-Addan hospital," Nayirah said. "While I was there, I saw the Iraqi soldiers come into the hospital with guns, and go into the room where . . . babies were in incubators. They took the babies out of the incubators, took the incubators, and left the babies on the cold floor to die."83

Three months passed between Nayirah's testimony and the start of the war. During those months, the story of babies torn from their incubators was repeated over and over again. President Bush told the story. It was recited as fact in Congressional testimony, on TV and radio talk shows, and at the UN Security Council. "Of all the accusations made against the dictator," MacArthur observed, "none had more impact on American public opinion than the one about Iraqi soldiers removing 312 babies from their incubators and leaving them to die on the cold hospital floors of Kuwait City."84

At the Human Rights Caucus, however, Hill & Knowlton and Congressman Lantos had failed to reveal that Nayirah was a member of the Kuwaiti Royal Family.

445 christmasghost  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 9:08:19pm

re: #425 Charles

someone actually said that?
WTF?
and i suppose he would be giving hamas a standing ovation if they showed a pedophile raping a kid as long as someone pointed out to him that that wasn't a good thing to do.

this was animal abuse, totally cruel. can you even fathom how horrible it would be to be an animal in that sh*thole?
look at how they treat women and children........

446 Archimedes  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 9:08:26pm

re: #436 NJDhockeyfan

Too late to save the planet...

Global warming is 'irreversible'

Go ahead and buy your SUVs. It doesn't matter anymore.

"A team of environmental researchers"

Al Gore and the Dixy Chix?

447 [deleted]  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 9:08:36pm
448 realwest  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 9:08:37pm

re: #433 newsjunkie_ky
Hey {news} hope it wasn't something I said!
BTW, if you're still hanging around, you might want to check your e-mail.

449 Hobbes  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 9:08:58pm

Good night!

450 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 9:08:58pm

re: #410 christmasghost

i didn't have time to read all the comments but did anyone else have an overwhelming urge to let those lions out of their cage?

Actually, I was thinking she/he/it was lucky that Harry Potter wasn't there with his wand.

I'm not a Peta fan, but I do think there are minimum standards for keeping animals in a zoo. (Who keeps housecats in a zoo?)

451 OldLineTexan  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 9:09:05pm

re: #436 NJDhockeyfan

Too late to save the planet...

Global warming is 'irreversible'


Go ahead and buy your SUVs. It doesn't matter anymore.

You can't undrown a polar bear...

452 rawmuse  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 9:09:18pm

re: #436 NJDhockeyfan

Too late to save the planet...

Global warming is 'irreversible'

Go ahead and buy your SUVs. It doesn't matter anymore.

I want a new one, but the one I have only has 45k miles on it, and it is 8 years old.

453 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 9:09:45pm

re: #435 Dianna

Little advice:

When people start sniping back and forth over the course of several threads, it gets really tiresome to the rest of us. Particularly those of us who have no clue what you two are going on about.

Disagreements should be limited to one thread.

Coldness and scrolling-over for a few days to weeks works well, too.

Even if you cordially despise someone, the best way to deal with it is by keeping interaction to a minimum.

Well than, that was my fault since I started the sniping. He used the "c" word in a earlier thread, and for some reason he just couldn't understand that that was way beyond the bounds of normal discourse here at LGF.

So, he kept it up, on and on, and he finally said he was gone, for good.

And then he pop back up here. I reacted and, tongue in cheek, started in on him.

It's not his fault, not on this thread.

454 darkster2400  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 9:09:50pm

re: #438 albusteve

thanks for the support

455 Bloodnok  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 9:10:02pm

re: #443 NY Nana

WHAT on EARTH was that?

LMAO!

456 Sharmuta  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 9:10:12pm

re: #445 christmasghost

Yes, someone said that- Charles quoted it.

457 FrogMarch  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 9:10:17pm

is it any wonder the leftists are in love with the Palis?

sick Fkers

458 realwest  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 9:10:24pm

re: #440 OldLineTexan
Well I hope you haven't turned it yet - what did you mean when you said " play with rusty rectangles of quarter inch plate steel..."?

459 Ojoe  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 9:10:54pm

re: #436 NJDhockeyfan

The world was way warmer for about 95% of geologic history, than it is now. The glacial - interglacial cycle is an anomaly.

460 Westward Ho  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 9:10:55pm
At the Human Rights Caucus, however, Hill & Knowlton and Congressman Lantos had failed to reveal that Nayirah was a member of the Kuwaiti Royal Family. Her father, in fact, was Saud Nasir al-Sabah, Kuwait's Ambassador to the US, who sat listening in the hearing room during her testimony. The Caucus also failed to reveal that H&K vice-president Lauri Fitz-Pegado had coached Nayirah in what even the Kuwaitis' own investigators later confirmed was false testimony.
461 avanti  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 9:11:24pm

Thought I'd just drop this toy ball in the room for you to kick around.

Climate change

I won't touch it with a keyboard from the other coast.:)

462 albusteve  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 9:11:40pm

re: #453 Walter L. Newton

Well than, that was my fault since I started the sniping. He used the "c" word in a earlier thread, and for some reason he just couldn't understand that that was way beyond the bounds of normal discourse here at LGF.

So, he kept it up, on and on, and he finally said he was gone, for good.

And then he pop back up here. I reacted and, tongue in cheek, started in on him.

It's not his fault, not on this thread.

let it go...he's okay

463 NY Nana  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 9:11:43pm

re: #455 Bloodnok

If Killgore sees it, he can explain! ;)

Samuel Adams...Bostonian by any chance?

464 darkster2400  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 9:12:06pm

re: #453 Walter L. Newton

and when you drag it another thread, why don't you at least put it all in the correct context - I did not exactly do what you alleged

Sorry to all lizards - including Walter - for this disruption - thought I could start afresh but I guess not

Thanks Walter

night night - really!

465 Dianna  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 9:13:10pm

re: #453 Walter L. Newton

Well than, that was my fault since I started the sniping. He used the "c" word in a earlier thread, and for some reason he just couldn't understand that that was way beyond the bounds of normal discourse here at LGF.

So, he kept it up, on and on, and he finally said he was gone, for good.

And then he pop back up here. I reacted and, tongue in cheek, started in on him.

It's not his fault, not on this thread.

Walter, really, I didn't want to know.

Maybe we all ought to be a little more forgiving.

466 Archimedes  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 9:13:20pm

re: #459 Ojoe

The world was way warmer for about 95% of geologic history, than it is now. The glacial - interglacial cycle is an anomaly.

Yes, the best lecture I've seen on global warming is one given my the professor of geology, Bob Carter.

It's in four parts, starting here:

Youtube Video
467 OldLineTexan  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 9:13:23pm

re: #458 realwest

Well I hope you haven't turned it yet - what did you mean when you said " play with rusty rectangles of quarter inch plate steel..."?

Stacking the little 33-lb buggers into dead weights for some vibration tests. Swapping them off and on various test configurations.

I've been ruining my jeans daily for a week with them. Possibly my back as well, but not yet. ;)

468 Bloodnok  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 9:13:34pm

re: #463 NY Nana

If Killgore sees it, he can explain! ;)

Samuel Adams...Bostonian by any chance?

I am! NH by birth, Boston by job. (North End)

469 [deleted]  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 9:13:36pm
470 Westward Ho  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 9:13:43pm

The point behind these long quotes is that such sensational & strongly emotional events can change the outcomes in a conflict and the IDF should be defending itself more thoroughly against this new blood libel.

471 realwest  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 9:14:00pm

re: #447 Iron Fist
Hey Fist! Can't be 40, why only 10 years ago it was 50!
Where the hell are they gonna find people UNDER 40 to replace the 50+ year olds?!
:)
Chill my friend, I suspect your work is excellent and your age won't really matter; it really only matters to those who are shortsighted enough to think that somone can do the work, solve the problems of someone with your experience, virtually right out of school.

472 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 9:14:13pm

re: #465 Dianna

Walter, really, I didn't want to know.

Maybe we all ought to be a little more forgiving.

Maybe, depends on the situation. But I agree (and like) your advice to keep thread flames on the thread of topic.

473 FrogMarch  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 9:14:34pm

re: #412 Sharmuta

OT: Chili Cheese Fritos are from the devil.

I didn't know Stan could cook?

474 Dianna  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 9:14:52pm

re: #469 Iron Fist

Not much point in any of the other horseshit, although I'll admit I used to like the occasional brawl myself. After a while, you get to where you've said the same damn thing the same damn way to six different people, and decided the game weren't worth the candle.

In essence, yes.

475 solomonpanting  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 9:15:30pm

re: #461 avanti

Thought I'd just drop this toy ball in the room for you to kick around.

Climate change

I won't touch it with a keyboard from the other coast.:)

"People have imagined that if we stopped emitting carbon dioxide the climate would go back to normal in 100 years, 200 years; that's not true," climate researcher Susan Solomon said in a teleconference.

She should define "normal".

476 albusteve  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 9:15:30pm

re: #465 Dianna

Walter, really, I didn't want to know.

Maybe we all ought to be a little more forgiving.

agreed...past that I won't say....younger, newer posters deserve a break...he's trying to fit in that's all

477 Dianna  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 9:15:47pm

Well, I'm going to walk my dogs and head for bed.

Goodnight, lizards!

478 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 9:15:53pm

re: #469 Iron Fist

Not much point in any of the other horseshit, although I'll admit I used to like the occasional brawl myself. After a while, you get to where you've said the same damn thing the same damn way to six different people, and decided the game weren't worth the candle.

Ok... everyone, I read Dianna's advice, I agreed that she has a good point, I said I shouldn't have pulled a argument into this thread, and I apologized, ok.

Did I miss anything?

479 Ojoe  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 9:15:56pm

re: #466 Archimedes

"futile fee--goodery." Good.

480 Archimedes  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 9:16:11pm

re: #473 FrogMarch

I didn't know Stan could cook?

I don't know about Stan, but

Yan Can Cook!

481 slokat  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 9:17:19pm

re: #476 albusteve

agreed...past that I won't say....younger, newer posters deserve a break...he's trying to fit in that's all

possibly, but also using up good will at a reckless pace...

482 OldLineTexan  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 9:17:19pm

re: #480 Archimedes

I don't know about Stan, but

Yan Can Cook!

And he was entertaining, too.

Nytol!

483 albusteve  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 9:17:27pm

re: #478 Walter L. Newton

Ok... everyone, I read Dianna's advice, I agreed that she has a good point, I said I shouldn't have pulled a argument into this thread, and I apologized, ok.

Did I miss anything?

yes...sincerity

484 realwest  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 9:17:53pm

re: #467 OldLineTexan
Well crap - never mind your back - there's always workman's comp for that, but ruining good pairs of jeans - which btw, I find are harder and harder to find - is just unacceptable! Ya gotta find something besides jeans to wear - and while you're at it, how's about a weight belt, too?!

485 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 9:18:28pm

Anyone see this example of media bias courtesy of WaPo?

As Relatives Lay Dead, Bleeding Gazans Prayed

ZAYTOUN, Gaza -- Just before dawn on Jan. 4, a sledgehammer crashed through the living-room wall of the home of Almaz al-Samuni in this southern enclave of Gaza City, pounding a hole wide enough for someone to poke a rifle through while shouting in a language she didn't understand.

"Get out of the house now," an Israeli soldier ordered, this time in accented Arabic, she recalled. Almaz, small for her age of 13, and her family quickly did as they were told, heading for her uncle Wael's house nearby, where by daybreak 92 family members had packed in thigh-to-thigh. It was a week into Israel's 22-day war with Hamas.

486 christmasghost  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 9:19:14pm

re: #450 Emmmieg


who keeps housecats in a zoo ?
douchebags.

sharmuta...... yes, i get that i guess it was a rhetorical holy shit that just flew out of me.i just can't wrap my mind around how sick,sick,sick these people are and then there is someone on this site that is sicker? the 'bee' in the film is an ignorant idiot form the 3rd century....so what the hell is the person on this thread's excuse?

487 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 9:19:23pm

Well, after a unpleasant day spend fixing problems caused by other people instead of selling and worrying about layoffs, I'm down in the dumps. Has anyone got any good news for me today?

488 [deleted]  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 9:19:40pm
489 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 9:19:58pm

re: #485 NJDhockeyfan

Anyone see this example of media bias courtesy of WaPo?

As Relatives Lay Dead, Bleeding Gazans Prayed

Yes, I see the bias.
Any other country would have lobbed a grenade, and there would have been no one left to complain.

490 notutopia  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 9:20:31pm

OT
Obama to Gaza, and The Middle East,
"The US is not your enemy"

See at 7:36 on the vid. Obama is asked a question specifically regarding accomplishments of "his first administration".
[Link: williamamos.wordpress.com...]

491 Sharmuta  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 9:20:40pm

re: #487 Dark_Falcon

Well, after a unpleasant day spend fixing problems caused by other people instead of selling and worrying about layoffs, I'm down in the dumps. Has anyone got any good news for me today?

Some fascist sympathizers got the stick today. Does that count?

492 realwest  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 9:20:46pm

re: #477 Dianna Good night Dianna - sleep well!

493 Racer X  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 9:20:47pm

re: #412 Sharmuta

OT: Chili Cheese Fritos are from the devil.

Had that for lunch yesterday. It was good.

494 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 9:20:51pm

re: #487 Dark_Falcon

Well, after a unpleasant day spend fixing problems caused by other people instead of selling and worrying about layoffs, I'm down in the dumps. Has anyone got any good news for me today?

Iran doesn't have nuclear weapons yet.
The EU blames Hamas for the mess in Gaza.

495 Bloodnok  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 9:20:52pm

Goodnight Lizards!

496 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 9:21:15pm

re: #483 albusteve

yes...sincerity

Ah, come on, Stevie. You're breakin' your Uncle Walt's heart here. You know me Stevie, I'd give you da shirt off me back, but that's a low-blow Stevie (taps Stevie's cheek with his right hand), ya know your Uncle is drippin' sincerity... ya got that Stevie boy?

:)

497 Stonemason  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 9:21:22pm

re: #461 avanti

AGW is a hoax, the climate changes all the time, has for 4.5 billion years, thank God too, or we wouldn't be here.

498 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 9:22:10pm

re: #485 NJDhockeyfan

Anyone see this example of media bias courtesy of WaPo?

As Relatives Lay Dead, Bleeding Gazans Prayed

Typical and disgustingly predictable. The WaPo thinks that this sort of thing is winning them friends, when in fact they are wounding the only friend they have in the Middle East.

499 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 9:22:43pm

re: #497 Stonemason

AGW is a hoax, the climate changes all the time, has for 4.5 billion years, thank God too, or we wouldn't be here.

Mister smartypants. What was the climate like BEFORE 4.5 billion years ago.
/

500 slokat  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 9:22:44pm

re: #487 Dark_Falcon

Yeah, that's also the good news... the problems were caused by other people & you have the ability to fix them.

no sarc - sounds like my life (I still strife to find satisfaction were ever it manages to hide itself).

501 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 9:23:02pm

re: #491 Sharmuta

Some fascist sympathizers got the stick today. Does that count?

It might. When did it happen?

502 Sharmuta  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 9:23:31pm

re: #501 Dark_Falcon

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

On this thread.

503 Erik The Red  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 9:23:48pm

re: #488 Iron Fist

Thanks, man. I'm taking the whole 40 thing pretty hard. I'd never anticipated living this long. I mean, that's great, I guess, but it is something of a surprise. I've got six more months to croak, though. who knows? Stranger things have happened.

Morning Lizards. 39 was harder for me. Didn't want to get out of bed the whole day and did not celebrate. I had a big party for my 40th and the booze and friends got me through that one. Not so bad Iron just another day in the grand scheme of things.

504 Sharmuta  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 9:23:49pm

re: #493 Racer X

Had that for lunch yesterday. It was good.

They are tasty!

505 Ojoe  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 9:25:04pm

re: #466 Archimedes

Thank you that was great.I bookmarked it.

506 melinwy  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 9:25:24pm

re: #485 NJDhockeyfan

Anyone see this example of media bias courtesy of WaPo?

As Relatives Lay Dead, Bleeding Gazans Prayed

The shelling of Zaytoun has become a flash point in the debate over whether Israel did enough to prevent the loss of civilian life while targeting fighters from Hamas, the Islamist movement that controls the Gaza Strip. Hamas fighters operated in residential areas throughout the conflict and targeted Israeli civilians with rockets, killing three during Israel's offensive.

I'm not sure how anyone can say this with a straight face when in fact, hamas used kids as shields. To question whether Israel did enough to prevent civilian life?

507 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 9:25:34pm

re: #503 Erik The Red

Morning Lizards. 39 was harder for me. Didn't want to get out of bed the whole day and did not celebrate. I had a big party for my 40th and the booze and friends got me through that one. Not so bad Iron just another day in the grand scheme of things.

It there any IT work there in SA (I believe you are in SA, I know Africa somewhere)?

508 Killgore Trout  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 9:25:41pm

re: #443 NY Nana

Favorited. Thanks.

509 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 9:25:47pm

re: #500 slokat

Yeah, that's also the good news... the problems were caused by other people & you have the ability to fix them.

no sarc - sounds like my life (I still strife to find satisfaction were ever it manages to hide itself).

That's some good news but the bad news is that all the time I had to spend cleaning up messes kept me from getting the sales I needed. I'm worried about missing my quota and whether I'll be able to keep my job. Tomorrow looks to be a good day but today was just a misery.

510 slokat  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 9:25:48pm

re: #499 Walter L. Newton

Mister smartypants. What was the climate like BEFORE 4.5 billion years ago.
/

It snowed the tuesday before, then cleared...

511 BlueCanuck  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 9:26:10pm

re: #499 Walter L. Newton

Mister smartypants. What was the climate like BEFORE 4.5 billion years ago.
/

Efffing cold. Let me put it this way, you wouldn't have to worry about keeping your drinks cold. Warming them up would have been preferrable.

/that whole close to Absolute Zero thing you know.

512 albusteve  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 9:26:20pm

re: #481 slokat

possibly, but also using up good will at a reckless pace...

dont be so judgemental

513 Stonemason  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 9:26:28pm

re: #499 Walter L. Newton

Just like that link you posted yesterday, we will all find out when the collider is up and running...or so they say.

Of course, it could just swallow us all....

514 Killgore Trout  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 9:26:37pm

PBS is showing a great documentary about Oppenheimer. Time to eat da feesh.
/Namaste,, y'all

515 realwest  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 9:26:40pm

re: #488 Iron Fist Whoa, hey 'bro - WTF is it with you've got six more months before turning 40?!
Hell I never expected to reach a number of various ages but somehow I did. I DO wish now that, as Mickey Mantle once said "If I'd known I was gonna live this long I'd a taken better care of myself". Course, there wasn't anyway I could have prevented the cancer, but still I think my quality of life would be better now if I had taken better care of myself.
Y'all take care of yourself as best you can - for your GF, your friends and family and for us.

516 Pietr  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 9:26:52pm

re: #421 Iron Fist

LOL-too true.....at least your story had a friendly end. Around here, the missus always worries the gang idjits I PO will come for a drive by. I don't-I always figure they understand that continuing anything will be VERY bad (if I'm still alive), after they start any crap. But she may be right-I'm crediting their intelligence, according to her. If I'm right, I'm crediting them with survival instinct....Cheers.

517 Racer X  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 9:27:00pm

re: #504 Sharmuta

They are tasty!

I first tried Chili Cheese Fritos at a Nascar race. Hooked.

518 albusteve  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 9:27:06pm

re: #488 Iron Fist

Thanks, man. I'm taking the whole 40 thing pretty hard. I'd never anticipated living this long. I mean, that's great, I guess, but it is something of a surprise. I've got six more months to croak, though. who knows? Stranger things have happened.


ornriness is a virtue...you will live long and prosper

519 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 9:27:26pm

re: #514 Killgore Trout

PBS is showing a great documentary about Oppenheimer. Time to eat da feesh.
/Namaste,, y'all

Namaste ("You've got to go back, Killgore")

520 Maximu§  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 9:27:28pm

re: #488 Iron Fist

Thanks, man. I'm taking the whole 40 thing pretty hard. I'd never anticipated living this long. I mean, that's great, I guess, but it is something of a surprise. I've got six more months to croak, though. who knows? Stranger things have happened.

Don't you go croaking on me IF.

521 Kosh's Shadow  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 9:28:26pm

re: #499 Walter L. Newton

Mister smartypants. What was the climate like BEFORE 4.5 billion years ago.
/

About 3.0K, so we have had global warming since then.

522 rawmuse  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 9:28:42pm

re: #514 Killgore Trout

PBS is showing a great documentary about Oppenheimer. Time to eat da feesh.
/Namaste,, y'all

Watching that now. Pretty good.

523 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 9:28:49pm

re: #518 albusteve

ornriness is a virtue...you will live long and prosper

Then I should be spitting nails when I'm 90. Right?

524 realwest  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 9:29:13pm

re: #515 realwest ADDENDUM - hey bro' - I just realized you're upset about turning 40 - FORTY! Geez, it was 50 and then 60 that got me all upset, forty was a walk in the park!

525 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 9:29:17pm

re: #522 rawmuse

Watching that now. Pretty good.

That show is a bomb.

526 sngnsgt  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 9:29:32pm

re: #436 NJDhockeyfan

Now's a good time to find cheap, low mileage used SUV's at used car lots. When gas prices went through the roof recently, (George Bushs' fault of course/) people were trading them in for whatever small rice burning car they could find. Now, used car lots are full of them and want to unload them quick!

527 albusteve  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 9:29:39pm

re: #496 Walter L. Newton

Ah, come on, Stevie. You're breakin' your Uncle Walt's heart here. You know me Stevie, I'd give you da shirt off me back, but that's a low-blow Stevie (taps Stevie's cheek with his right hand), ya know your Uncle is drippin' sincerity... ya got that Stevie boy?

:)

flog yourself and videotape it :)

528 [deleted]  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 9:29:43pm
529 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 9:30:18pm

re: #514 Killgore Trout

PBS is showing a great documentary about Oppenheimer. Time to eat da feesh.
/Namaste,, y'all

And G4 has the Adult Entertainment Expo 09 on right now.

Decisions...decisions...

530 Catttt  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 9:30:56pm

re: #487 Dark_Falcon

Well, after a unpleasant day spend fixing problems caused by other people instead of selling and worrying about layoffs, I'm down in the dumps. Has anyone got any good news for me today?

Cheer up - no good news, but what the heck. Do something fun - have a nice dinner. Pet the cat. :D Read or watch something funny on TV.

VP Biden says this: "It's worse, quite frankly, than anyone thought it was and it's [getting] worse every day. There's no good news and no good news on the immediate horizon." You can always count on Joe to be brutally frank.

531 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 9:31:35pm

re: #527 albusteve

flog yourself and videotape it :)

Your wish is my command...

Youtube Video
532 Sharmuta  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 9:31:57pm

re: #508 Killgore Trout

Is it your birthday?

533 slokat  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 9:33:22pm

re: #532 Sharmuta

Is it your birthday?

The guy didn't sing, "happy birthday Killgore Trout", so the evidence is unclear...
/

534 Sharmuta  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 9:33:37pm

Iron Fist- just have a second 39th birthday. My father did it for years.

535 realwest  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 9:34:21pm

re: #516 Pietr Hey Pietr - what does PO mean?

536 BlueCanuck  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 9:34:35pm

re: #534 Sharmuta

Iron Fist- just have a second 39th birthday. My father did it for years.

So if a women hits 29 years of age, and holds a that. A man can do it at 39?

/wimps. Be proud of your age. :)

537 avanti  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 9:34:47pm

Obama axes family planning funds

Nancy will not be happy.

538 realwest  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 9:35:05pm

re: #534 Sharmuta
So did Jack Benny - heck he practically made a career out of it!

539 Maximu§  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 9:35:07pm

re: #528 Iron Fist

I got a new switchblade today. It was from the second company I'd ordered it from. The first one sent me the automatic email, and then nothing. At least they didn't charge my card.

The knife itself is pretty interesting. It has an unusual blade shape and action. overall, I'm pleased with this company.

Another switchblade company that I've done good business with is Switchblades.it They are in Italy. I ordered one knife from them before Christmas, and I have another on order. They are a little pricey (they want to be paid in euros), but they have good, tight blades. I've gotten damascus blades on the two I've ordered so, while they were pricey, they also give good value for the money.

How's that for something good?

Nice blades, but abit pricey.....Big 5 always has some nice sales and a $20 knife cuts just as well as a $189 knife.

540 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 9:35:20pm

So, I'm out of my depth here, but 4.whatever billion years ago, wasn't it really, really hot underground (if underground stayed there), and really cold above ground and especially at night because there wasn't an atmosphere to keep the air in?

So, you know, you could keep the food hot and the drinks cold, I suppose. 'Cept there wasn't much to drink yet.

541 Age Of Freedom  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 9:35:40pm

Excellent post, Charles.

This topic should be emailed to every IP address in the universe.

542 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 9:35:42pm

re: #530 Catttt

Cheer up - no good news, but what the heck. Do something fun - have a nice dinner. Pet the cat. :D Read or watch something funny on TV.

VP Biden says this: "It's worse, quite frankly, than anyone thought it was and it's [getting] worse every day. There's no good news and no good news on the immediate horizon." You can always count on Joe to be brutally frank.

I know. There's nothing but to hold on until spring. If I want any good news, I'll have to make it myself. Sorry about the despair, but I needed to vent after a brutal last two days.

543 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 9:35:48pm

It's three degrees (f) outside. Maisey the Parrot is packing, has a little suitcase with a sign on the side, The Amazon or Bust.

544 Erik The Red  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 9:36:07pm

re: #507 Walter L. Newton

It there any IT work there in SA (I believe you are in SA, I know Africa somewhere)?

I am not in IT, I own a gas station. My bil is in the computer business and he says things are slow atm. I would not recommend coming here. Weather and climate great, not much else. Hence my return to the US in mid year.

Been meaning to ask. Can any Lizards put me in contact with a business broker in the Orlando area? I am looking at buying another gas station over there and could us any assistance in finding a good station foe sale.
Thanks

545 BlueCanuck  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 9:36:39pm

re: #543 Walter L. Newton

Can't really blame her. After all she is from tropical rainforests.

546 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 9:37:07pm

re: #543 Walter L. Newton

It's three degrees (f) outside. Maisey the Parrot is packing, has a little suitcase with a sign on the side, The Amazon or Bust.

What is she packing? Little tropical muu muus?

547 Catttt  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 9:37:08pm

re: #542 Dark_Falcon

I know. There's nothing but to hold on until spring. If I want any good news, I'll have to make it myself. Sorry about the despair, but I needed to vent after a brutal last two days.

I understand completely. Last week, for me, sucked. This too shall pass.

548 Dustyvet  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 9:37:11pm

re: #46 Opinionated

Jimmy Carter believes trustworthy Hamas and condemns the Zionist camel killers.

Jimmy Carter: Hamas can be trusted

Youtube Video
549 slokat  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 9:37:42pm

re: #533 slokat

...although the presence of happy, gay male cheerleaders + the lack of intelligent design in the production does lean towards the opposing view...

550 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 9:38:16pm

re: #546 Emmmieg

What is she packing? Little tropical muu muus?

No, a feathered boa!

551 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 9:38:19pm

re: #541 Age Of Freedom

Excellent post, Charles.

This topic should be emailed to every IP address in the universe.

Yes, it should. The IDF did itself a great favor by posting these videos. They give Israel's supports evidence to hit back with when terrorists and the supporters trump up fake Israeli 'war crimes'. Seeing the truth gives me some hope that the goods guys might win in the end.

552 rawmuse  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 9:38:24pm

re: #537 avanti

This entire business of taking tax money, as yet uncollected, and paying it out to political cronies is now an obscenity. With the confirmation of Geithner today, our entire tax system has become a laughingstock.

553 realwest  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 9:38:42pm

re: #528 Iron Fist
Hey Fist - what did y'all get from Switchblades.it and did you have any problems having it shipped here? I thought switchblades were considered VERY damn illegal where you live, no?!

554 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 9:39:31pm

re: #548 Dustyvet

Jimmy Carter: Hamas can be trusted


[Video]

Carter: If no Palestine, Israel sees 'catastrophe'

NEW YORK (AP) — Former President Jimmy Carter said Monday that Israel will face a "catastrophe" unless it revives the Mideast peace process and establishes an independent Palestinian state.

In an interview with The Associated Press, he said Arabs will outnumber Jews in the Holy Land in the foreseeable future.

555 FrogMarch  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 9:39:33pm

re: #543 Walter L. Newton

It's three degrees (f) outside. Maisey the Parrot is packing, has a little suitcase with a sign on the side, The Amazon or Bust.

sheeet. I'm glad I'm not there.

556 Scion9  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 9:39:40pm

re: #548 Dustyvet


Jimmy Carter: Hamas can be trusted

I do trust Hamas. Given the opportunity they will do exactly what they say they want to do. There is no mistrust there at all.

557 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 9:40:07pm

re: #552 rawmuse

This entire business of taking tax money, as yet uncollected, and paying it out to political cronies is now an obscenity. With the confirmation of Geithner today, our entire tax system has become a laughingstock.

Really, don't pay them and see how much you are laughing. The only folks laughing are the jerks in DC.

558 [deleted]  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 9:40:31pm
559 albusteve  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 9:40:53pm

re: #523 Walter L. Newton

Then I should be spitting nails when I'm 90. Right?

oh the horror....

560 rawmuse  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 9:41:16pm

re: #557 Walter L. Newton

I already paid them. I am self employed. I have to pay them the money before I make it.

561 Sharmuta  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 9:41:48pm

re: #536 BlueCanuck

So if a women hits 29 years of age, and holds a that. A man can do it at 39?

/wimps. Be proud of your age. :)

I went one better- I'm "28". But hey! Nana's 12.

562 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 9:41:57pm

re: #555 FrogMarch

sheeet. I'm glad I'm not there.

Where is not there?

Actually, Maisey the PArrot is warm and fine. Sitting on her perch, head tucked into her wing (no, they don't do that to keep warm, it's to center their balance over the perch) and sleeping.

563 slokat  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 9:42:02pm

re: #559 albusteve

oh the horror....

...well it could be a stage show.

564 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 9:42:55pm

If you're really depressed, Drudge's headline is a bit of fun right now. What kind of idiots schedule global warming hearings in the middle of winter? Even I know better than that, and I've never worked in politics in my life.

Global warming sounds GOOD right now.

565 albusteve  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 9:43:49pm

re: #563 slokat

...well it could be a stage show.


I'm plotting his demise as we speak....mmwwaahahaha...

566 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 9:45:18pm

re: #558 Iron Fist

Oh dear. You're a steel freak. You own knives. You go on forums. Do you go on knife forums? Then you've probably met my father.

Not kidding. He's actually a great guy.

567 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 9:45:38pm

re: #565 albusteve

I'm plotting his demise as we speak....mmwwaahahaha...

Whatever happened to Fay Wray / That delicate satin-draped frame / As it clung to her thigh / How I started to cry / 'Cause I wanted to be dressed just the same.

568 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 9:45:44pm

re: #554 NJDhockeyfan

In other news, Barack Obama has announced that he intends to use two of his teams of unicorns to pull Jimmy Carter's head out of his own ass.

/kidding, but I wish it was that simple

569 Scion9  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 9:45:58pm

re: #557 Walter L. Newton

Really, don't pay them and see how much you are laughing. The only folks laughing are the jerks in DC.

It's Krokodil humor. The mirthless grin and chuckle of the privileged and protected towards those under their thumb. We aren't the ones that are supposed to be laughing.

570 realwest  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 9:46:39pm

re: #542 Dark_Falcon
Y'all don't have to answer this question Dark_Falcon, but I've sorta been in and out of LGF for a few days, what's happened over the last two days that has you
in such despair?

571 Dustyvet  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 9:47:35pm

It's not Dusty...but it's close...


Image: DSC_7055%2Bcopy.jpg

572 realwest  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 9:47:58pm

re: #548 Dustyvet
Hey Dusty! How are ya doing tonight?

573 Pietr  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 9:48:22pm

re: #535 realwest

Hey Pietr - what does PO mean?

Acronym for P*ss Off...when I'm trying to be user friendly-otherwise, I say it outright...:>))

574 Dustyvet  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 9:48:39pm

re: #572 realwest

Hey Dusty! How are ya doing tonight?

Doing well...and you?

575 karmic_inquisitor  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 9:49:45pm

re: #475 solomonpanting

She should define "normal".

The standard changes.

Take whatever the reading is today and then declare 90% of it "normal" then hold a presser that we are 10% above normal.

From the press clipping she makes some assertions that aren't supported by data available. Maybe it is bad reporting of re report. Nonetheless, some assertions don't hold water. For instance, Antarctic Ice is accumulating and not melting as claimed (evn though there is a portion where it is because of volcanic activity). Another is the claim that carbon dioxide is a persistent gas for hundreds of years - ever seen a tree? And let's not forget the claim that "you just can't see levels go down after turning it off". When Mt Pinatubo exploded and put enough particles in the air to cool the planet a bit, the CO2 readings at Mauna Loa dropped notice ably. It wasn't like carbon production stopped - instead, ocean surfaces cooled.

One thing she does point out that is supportable is that the oceans have a great deal of mass and that they slowly warm and slowly cool. She doesn't mention that there is at least 50 times more CO2 in the oceans than in the atmosphere. And what Pinatubo demonstrated was that ocean cooling sucks CO2 out of the atmosphere and warming kicks it back out, and that if it cools rapidly the CO2 levels change rapidly.

Anyway, this paper and the Mann paper released earlier this week (which borders on a fraud) are the warm up act for the scare circus that Al Gore is ready to perform later this week in the form of testimony to Congress.

576 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 9:49:47pm

re: #570 realwest

Y'all don't have to answer this question Dark_Falcon, but I've sorta been in and out of LGF for a few days, what's happened over the last two days that has you
in such despair?

Difficult customers and poor sales. I might still be able to pull off a tolerable month. though and the fact that I made my quotas for both of the last two months helps. I'm not dead out, but it's been a rough month.

577 [deleted]  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 9:49:49pm
578 Alberta Oil Peon  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 9:51:33pm

re: #436 NJDhockeyfan

Too late to save the planet...

Global warming is 'irreversible'

Go ahead and buy your SUVs. It doesn't matter anymore.

Hot damn! I'm gonna plant me some mango trees. I can use the handles of my old snow shovels to stake 'em up until they get big and strong.

579 BlueCanuck  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 9:51:39pm

re: #561 Sharmuta

Ah, so when you hit the peak of perfection. . . . . . .


/white smoke

580 realwest  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 9:51:45pm

re: #571 Dustyvet
Shoot, here I was thinking you were younger than that!
:

581 [deleted]  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 9:51:49pm
582 NY Nana  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 9:52:28pm

re: #561 Sharmuta

I went one better- I'm "28". But hey! Nana's 12.

You peeked at my nirth certificate! I'm telling.

583 Dustyvet  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 9:53:11pm

re: #580 realwest

Shoot, here I was thinking you were younger than that!
:

I got the beard and the hair...:) Minus the wrinkles...:)

584 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 9:53:20pm

White House e-mail system crashes

So the new White House finally gets its e-mail up and running smoothly, and then what happens?

The entire system crashes Monday morning.

The last e-mail from the White House press office before the breakdown arrived just before 9 a.m. Monday, advising that President Barack Obama's event on energy independence in the East Room would be open to all media, instead of just the smaller group of reporters and photographers that typically follows the president.

The malfunction left inboxes in the White House complex and across town eerily empty.

585 Stonemason  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 9:53:32pm

re: #575 karmic_inquisitor

Follows the plot of State of Fear rather well, I wonder what major event is scheduled to occur?

586 realwest  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 9:54:48pm

re: #573 Pietr Uh, do y'all make it a habit to piss off gangbangers? (takes four strides to the right of Pietr).

587 Pietr  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 9:55:22pm

re: #571 Dustyvet

It's not Dusty...but it's close...


[Link: 4.bp.blogspot.com...]

My beard isn't as long, and has darker coloring in it-but my hair is still black/brown, tho some white strands can be observed, if one looks closely....LOL.

588 realwest  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 9:56:21pm

re: #574 Dustyvet Not too bad, I guess - just tired from doing a lot of chores and all. Glad to hear you're doing well though.

589 karmic_inquisitor  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 9:56:24pm

re: #585 Stonemason

Follows the plot of State of Fear rather well, I wonder what major event is scheduled to occur?

Same with the "stimulus" package needed for our "depression".

These are the same assholes who just told us that we have left an era of fear and will now focus on our hopes. Then they fear monger the country into a shift to socialism

590 Sharmuta  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 9:57:38pm

re: #582 NY Nana

You peeked at my nirth certificate! I'm telling.

Don't you give me your sauce, little lady! ;)

591 Stonemason  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 9:57:47pm

re: #589 karmic_inquisitor

Yup, the goal all along, socialism, 'cause they know what is good for us better than we do.

592 Maximu§  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 9:58:00pm

re: #558 Iron Fist

I'm a collector. I have $10 knives up to a matched pair of Japanese swords (daisho), with 8192 layer blades that set me back almost two grand. They cost more than any other weapon I've ever had. They are gorgeous.

I don't mind spending good money for good steel. I wish I could afford a microtech OTF switchblade. They run about $400. Maybe something custom from Wilson Combat...

I have a Katana Samurai sword that I paid $1800 for. It has a 27" tempered steel blade with a beautiful lacquered wood sheath. I keep it right next to my bed...the blade I really liked cost $17,500 and that was something to behold.

593 realwest  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 9:58:57pm

re: #576 Dark_Falcon
What is it you sell - and are you in your own business?

594 logboy  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 9:59:36pm

re: #589 karmic_inquisitor

Same with the "stimulus" package needed for our "depression".

These are the same assholes who just told us that we have left an era of fear and will now focus on our hopes. Then they fear monger the country into a shift to socialism

When I'm depressed, I find that large quantities of alcohol and half naked women stimulate me better than money.

Just sayin.

595 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 9:59:40pm

re: #541 Age Of Freedom

Excellent post, Charles.

This topic should be emailed to every IP address in the universe.

Well, there is a "Share" button on every thread, just above the "Spinoff Links" flippy triangle thing.

/just sayin'

596 NY Nana  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 10:01:43pm

re: #590 Sharmuta

Don't you give me your sauce, little lady! ;)

ROTFL!

597 Dustyvet  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 10:02:02pm

VIERA: But Hamas has said that its goal is to destroy Israel. How can you involve them in a peace process when they've said their goal is to destroy Israel, and they don't recognize Israel?

CARTER: I'm not here to defend Hamas, but to tell you what they have pledged to me, and publicly; that if any agreement is negotiated between Fatah leaders and Israel, that Hamas will accept the agreement if it's submitted to the Palestinian people in a referendum. And that's a very good step forward, and I think they will do that because of their own self interest. And Hamas complied very thoroughly with the cease-fire agreement that I had worked out for last June the nineteenth. For five months there were no rockets fired until Israel did attack Gaza again on November the fourth.

Can I stop laughing now Jimmy...?

598 Archimedes  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 10:02:08pm

Rush Limbaugh's AlGore Doomsday Clock is down to 7 years exactly. Well, it will be in a little over 15 hours.

Still there from three years ago. You can see it at the bottom of the page. Mouse over it for the explosion effect.

[Link: www.rushlimbaugh.com...]

599 logboy  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 10:02:22pm

Is it just me or are things very quiet around here tonight?

600 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 10:02:35pm

re: #592 Maximu§

I have a Katana Samurai sword that I paid $1800 for. It has a 27" tempered steel blade with a beautiful lacquered wood sheath. I keep it right next to my bed...the blade I really liked cost $17,500 and that was something to behold.

Samurai swords are nice but do you have Samarai Obama?

601 Pietr  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 10:02:37pm

re: #586 realwest

Uh, do y'all make it a habit to piss off gangbangers? (takes four strides to the right of Pietr).

Naw, RW-I just don't have a habit of letting them go all bad on me....and I'm not the one who has run scared, yet. Reached for my cigarrettes while trashing one around a year ago-he was driving like an A**ho;e-and they peeled out....LOL. Apparently, they thought I was going for my gun....:>O

602 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 10:04:17pm

re: #593 realwest

What is it you sell - and are you in your own business?

I can't answer the first question as it would tend to reveal I bit more about me than I'd like. Suffice it to say I work in retail. I got a good job last summer, now I'm fighting to keep it.

603 rawmuse  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 10:04:40pm

re: #599 logboy

Is it just me or are things very quiet around here tonight?

I have not been posting as much lately, or even lurking as much. I went from vacation straight in to being worked like a mule. Can't gripe, I guess.

604 Dustyvet  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 10:04:42pm

re: #599 logboy

Is it just me or are things very quiet around here tonight?

I'm playing with my mental blocks..:)

605 Gort  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 10:05:02pm

re: #600 NJDhockeyfan

Samurai swords are nice but do you have Samarai Obama?

It's a good thing it's not morning, my coffee would be all over the keyboard!

606 realwest  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 10:05:29pm

re: #577 Iron Fist
Huh - when you first mentioned the CRKT 1130A knife that you might be getting, I looked at it (from the online catelogue you linked to) and it didn't look like a switchblade to me - had a thumb screw and nice cross guard and I'm not used to seeing switchblades with either feature.
Still got my ole A.G. Russell boot/belt double edged knives but that's about the only steel I now own that's worth anything. Sure wish I could pick up a Randall FS-1 somewhere though.

607 Pietr  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 10:06:29pm

re: #604 Dustyvet

I'm playing with my mental blocks..:)

And trying to use them to block "the voices".........LOL. Evening Dustyvet....:>))

608 Sharmuta  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 10:07:49pm

re: #596 NY Nana

Whipper snapper. {Nana}- that I could give you a laugh made my night.

609 Dustyvet  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 10:07:52pm

re: #607 Pietr

And trying to use them to block "the voices".........LOL. Evening Dustyvet....:>))

Allo...:) Nah, I got one of them moon bat tin hats for that...:)

610 logboy  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 10:08:52pm

re: #604 Dustyvet

I'm playing with my mental blocks..:)

Be careful not to hurt yourself.

611 realwest  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 10:09:32pm

re: #592 Maximu§
Hey there Maximu§ - do y'all know who has the largest and allegedly most valuable collection of those swords in the world?
I'll give you one clue: this person also has the largest and most valuable collection of guitars in the World (all according to the Discovery Channel).

612 NY Nana  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 10:10:08pm

re: #508 Killgore Trout

Still is your birthday...enjoy!

I found that video by pure, blind luck.

613 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 10:10:12pm

Ann Coulter live on John Caldera's talk show right now, on KOA. She appears for an hour almost once a week on his show.

[Link: www.850koa.com...]

614 rawmuse  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 10:10:38pm

re: #611 realwest

Steve Miller?

615 realwest  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 10:11:14pm

re: #594 logboy
That's funny, cause I find that large amounts of money help me find large quantities of alcohol and half naked women!

616 NY Nana  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 10:11:32pm

re: #608 Sharmuta

{Sharm} My sides still hurt, so help me!

617 realwest  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 10:14:04pm

re: #602 Dark_Falcon
OK, well I surely do hope business picks up for you real
soon!

618 Maximu§  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 10:14:11pm

re: #611 realwest

Hey there Maximu§ - do y'all know who has the largest and allegedly most valuable collection of those swords in the world?
I'll give you one clue: this person also has the largest and most valuable collection of guitars in the World (all according to the Discovery Channel).

You got me...I always wanted a room full of weapons, battle axes on the walls, swords, suits of armor, spears, shields etc etc...

619 realwest  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 10:15:44pm

re: #614 rawmuse Nope, focus more on the Samuri Blades - the guitar part shocked me but not the blades part!

620 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 10:16:40pm

re: #600 NJDhockeyfan

Samurai swords are nice but do you have Samarai Obama?

I heard it has a special secret action move: If you pull its talk string without its teleprompter accessory, it sticks its foot in its mouth.

621 Pietr  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 10:16:59pm

re: #618 Maximu§

You got me...I always wanted a room full of weapons, battle axes on the walls, swords, suits of armor, spears, shields etc etc...

Doesn't everyone? Tho, I'd like to have a castle to store them in-after I see it insulated a bit better....LOL.

622 slokat  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 10:18:38pm

Speaking of Hamas - Marching for Hamas

623 Sharmuta  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 10:19:09pm

re: #616 NY Nana

I love you, {Nana}. I'm glad I could bring a little mirth to you. Have a good night- I'm off to finish my part two of The Two Towers extended edition.

624 Gort  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 10:19:11pm

re: #620 Dark_Falcon

I heard it has a special secret action move: If you pull its talk string without its teleprompter accessory, it sticks its foot in its mouth.

Ah, I think that would the the Pugilist Plugs that sticks foot in mouth.
Obamurai stutters, stammers and stumbles.

625 realwest  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 10:20:02pm

re: #618 Maximu§
Ok, another hint: a movie martial artist.

626 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 10:20:16pm

re: #617 realwest

OK, well I surely do hope business picks up for you real
soon!

Thanks. Sorry for the caution but I've been surprised more than once about how easy it is to find someone based on relatively minor information. I'm careful enough to avoid identity theft, but I've found it wise to limit personal information.

627 Dustyvet  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 10:20:17pm

re: #621 Pietr

Doesn't everyone? Tho, I'd like to have a castle to store them in-after I see it insulated a bit better....LOL.

I visited here on a trip to the UK, in January 2000. Dang cold in the castle...

[Link: www.skiptoncastle.co.uk...]

628 rawmuse  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 10:20:32pm

re: #625 realwest

Jackie Chan

629 slokat  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 10:20:39pm

re: #625 realwest

Ok, another hint: a movie martial artist.

Chuck?

630 Killian Bundy  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 10:20:58pm

Obama's Showdown Over Nukes

The latest U.S. nuclear showdown doesn't involve a foreign enemy. Instead it pits President Barack Obama against his Defense Secretary, Robert Gates, and concerns the question of whether America needs a new generation of nuclear warheads. While serving under former President George W. Bush, Gates had repeatedly called for the Reliable Replacement Warhead (RRW) program to be put into operation, because the nation's current nukes — mostly produced in the 1970s and '80s — are growing so old that their destructive power may be in question.

. . .

But Obama doesn't buy that logic. Shortly after taking the oath of office on Tuesday, he turned what had been a campaign promise into an official presidential commitment: the new Administration "will stop the development of new nuclear weapons," the White House declared flatly on its website, with no equivocation, asterisks or caveats.

Youtube Video

/as they say, may you live in interesting times

631 NY Nana  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 10:22:02pm

re: #584 NJDhockeyfan

/There's good news tonight!

632 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 10:22:09pm

re: #624 Gort

Ah, I think that would the the Pugilist Plugs that sticks foot in mouth.
Obamurai stutters, stammers and stumbles.

Well, even with the teleprompter, the Obama doll only says four things:

1. Unity!
2. Hope!
3. Change!
4. Present.

633 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 10:23:07pm

re: #626 Dark_Falcon

Thanks. Sorry for the caution but I've been surprised more than once about how easy it is to find someone based on relatively minor information. I'm careful enough to avoid identity theft, but I've found it wise to limit personal information.

Ha, and I use my real name, real picture (well, I'm 150 pounds lighter now) and my avatar links to my web site with my address and phone number.

If an identity thief started to dig into my personal life, he would be sending me money and a apology note.

634 sngnsgt  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 10:23:08pm

re: #534 Sharmuta

Iron Fist- just have a second 39th birthday. My father did it for years.

I'm on my 2nd, 2nd 39th and feeling younger every day!

635 realwest  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 10:23:10pm

re: #626 Dark_Falcon
Hey, no sweat my friend, I understand. Oh, damn, I forgot to tell you that someone sent me an e-mail one day about a topic of forming grass roots organizations which this lizardette had a small part in out here, and all, and said if Dark_Falcon wants my e-mail addy to give it to you.

636 Maximu§  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 10:23:42pm

re: #625 realwest

Ok, another hint: a movie martial artist.

Your kill'n me! Ok, Jackie Chan?

637 Dustyvet  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 10:23:54pm

re: #632 Dark_Falcon

Well, even with the teleprompter, the Obama doll only says four things:

1. Unity!
2. Hope!
3. Change!
4. Present.

The deluxe model says 5.

Can I just eat my waffle.

638 slokat  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 10:24:26pm

What message does this send? President Obama Does First Formal TV Interview as President with Al-Arabiya

639 Maximu§  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 10:25:37pm

I wanna go to bed, but my 90 lb. America Bulldog is laying in my spot...:(

640 logboy  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 10:26:04pm

re: #615 realwest

That's funny, cause I find that large amounts of money help me find large quantities of alcohol and half naked women!

Touché.

641 Killian Bundy  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 10:26:12pm

Steven Seagal

/next question

642 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 10:26:47pm

re: #640 logboy

Touché.

You two keep talking about half-naked woman. What in the hell happened to the other half, you loose it?

643 Maximu§  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 10:27:20pm

re: #641 Killian Bundy

Steven Seagal

/next question

That was my first guess and I choose Jackie Chan.....

644 Dustyvet  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 10:27:37pm

re: #642 Walter L. Newton

You two keep talking about half-naked woman. What in the hell happened to the other half, you loose it?

36 key boards since the 1st of the year...

645 capitalist piglet  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 10:27:42pm

So I guess they're pushing out the date for the conversion on the whole television thingy to June.

But I digress.

646 BlueCanuck  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 10:29:30pm

re: #642 Walter L. Newton

Well, you have to start that way. The challenge of wits begins to remove the other half.

/sometimes the alcohol helps, sometimes it don't.

647 Gort  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 10:29:36pm

re: #640 logboy

With all of the alcohol and naked women, perhaps we need that contraception clause back on the table.

/

648 capitalist piglet  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 10:29:41pm

re: #637 Dustyvet

The deluxe model says 5.

Can I just eat my waffle.

And "Yes. We. Can!"

649 NJDhockeyfan  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 10:30:03pm

Ex-Guantanamo inmates rearrested

SAUDI authorities have rearrested nine Islamist militants, including former inmates of the US military detention centre at Guantanamo Bay in Cuba, the interior ministry said.

The ministry yesterday said the nine Saudi nationals had undergone a rehabilitation program for Islamist militants arrested in the kingdom and for returnees from the notorious US prison.

"Since the start of the rehabilitation program, nine people, who had taken part in the program, have been rearrested," a ministry official told state news agency SPA.

"Some of them had returned from Guantanamo," the official said.

The comments come in the wake of reports that two men who had been released from Guantanamo and went through the rehabilitation program had resurfaced in Yemen and had rejoined al-Qaeda.

650 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 10:30:10pm

re: #644 Dustyvet

36 key boards since the 1st of the year...

On that note, I'm off to bed.

Click on my name and you will see my address on my web site, send me the bill for the keyboard, it was worth it.

We have them at Goodwill down the street for 1.99 each. I don't even clean my anymore, just buy one at Goodwill about every 4 months.

651 Dustyvet  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 10:30:53pm

re: #647 Gort

With all of the alcohol and naked women, perhaps we need that contraception clause back on the table.

/

"Klaatu barada nikto"

652 Dustyvet  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 10:31:24pm

re: #650 Walter L. Newton

On that note, I'm off to bed.

Click on my name and you will see my address on my web site, send me the bill for the keyboard, it was worth it.

We have them at Goodwill down the street for 1.99 each. I don't even clean my anymore, just buy one at Goodwill about every 4 months.

Cools...:)

653 realwest  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 10:31:40pm

re: #618 Maximu§
And
re: #628 rawmuse
And
re: #629 slokat
Nope the correct answer is Steven F. Seagal !
And although it doesn't mention his collections, it does provide some interesting info on him here
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

654 NY Nana  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 10:31:44pm

re: #623 Sharmuta

{Love you, Sharm}

It is a week today that we were screwed, and seeing the poll numbers go down is fun...buyers remorse?

I am still angry as hell, but hope to get a lot more laughs out of this miserable, disgraceful excuse of a president and his merry band of thieves.

As long as they do not do something really evil, we should see the last of them sooner than we expected, as so many hypnotized robots worshiped The One..but now? They are sloooowly realizing that The Emperor has no clothes! *My eyes* *My eyes*!

Have a quiet evening, and sweet dreams later!

655 Walter L. Newton  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 10:32:29pm

re: #646 BlueCanuck

Well, you have to start that way. The challenge of wits begins to remove the other half.

/sometimes the alcohol helps, sometimes it don't.

My problem now a days is some of these females are wearing to much hardware. Ever snag an expensive blouse on a nose ring. Maybe I should have not tried to slip it over her head.

And like the things in their lips. They get stuck in zippers and sometimes the magnet latch in my wallet grabs something and the next thing I know, my wallet is pinned to on of their ears.

656 logboy  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 10:32:41pm

re: #642 Walter L. Newton

You two keep talking about half-naked woman. What in the hell happened to the other half, you loose it?

Nah, under the Obama stimulus plan I had to pay half to the government in taxes.

657 Killian Bundy  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 10:32:52pm

re: #645 capitalist piglet

So I guess they're pushing out the date for the conversion on the whole television thingy to June.

But I digress.

Digital TV delay cost some TV channels $40,000/month

/like four extra months is going to help the morons who couldn't bother to get conversion boxes in the last two years

658 realwest  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 10:33:46pm

re: #641 Killian Bundy
Ah, you've played this game before, grasshopper! LOL!
Ok, who owns - or at least owned the second largest and most valuable guitar collection in the world?

659 Dustyvet  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 10:33:57pm

re: #653 realwest

And
re: #628 rawmuse
And
re: #629 slokat
Nope the correct answer is Steven F. Seagal !
And although it doesn't mention his collections, it does provide some interesting info on him here
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

What's the "F" stand for?

660 unrealizedviewpoint  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 10:36:01pm

re: #638 slokat

What message does this send? President Obama Does First Formal TV Interview as President with Al-Arabiya

He's sending the message he told us he'd send, if elected. Keeping promises.
/

661 slokat  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 10:36:22pm

re: #659 Dustyvet

What's the "F" stand for?

fat futile female bashing f***wad!

662 realwest  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 10:36:32pm

re: #642 Walter L. Newton
Nah, logboy had some excuse about taxes! I personally think he just lost his!
:)

663 Gort  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 10:36:45pm

re: #657 Killian Bundy

Two million waiting on their coupon for analog to digital converter from the government....

/Even if I can't watch my Hero O on The View HD, at least my gas tank will be filled and rent paid right away.

664 BryanS  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 10:36:58pm

re: #657 Killian Bundy

Digital TV delay cost some TV channels $40,000/month

/like four extra months is going to help the morons who couldn't bother to get conversion boxes in the last two years

Get on with the switch already...hope the delay bill doesn't pass.

665 NY Nana  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 10:36:59pm

re: #638 slokat

What message does this send? President Obama Does First Formal TV Interview as President with Al-Arabiya

Exactly the message Hussein wants to send. He has shown the real Hussein.

666 Dustyvet  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 10:37:21pm

A priest, Jesus, and an old man tee off.

The priest drives the green within 5 yards of the hole.

Jesus slices the ball and it goes into the water hazard. He quickly runs across the water and hits his second onto the green 2 inches from the hole.

The old man tees off with a short worm burner that trickles into the hazard. Soon after a fish eats the ball and swims across the pond with it in its mouth. Just then an eagle swoops down and snatches the fish with the golf ball and flies off. The eagle loses its grip and drops the fish on the green. The fish then spits out the ball and it rolls into the hole for a hole in one.

Jesus turns to the old man and replies, "Play fair dad!"

667 SteveC  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 10:38:37pm

re: #645 capitalist piglet

So I guess they're pushing out the date for the conversion on the whole television thingy to June.

But I digress.

Damnit! I was hoping that my digital box had some kind of filter which would remove those stupid "Things Change on February 17!" ads from my TV.

668 Dustyvet  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 10:38:56pm

re: #666 Dustyvet

A priest, Jesus, and an old man tee off.

The priest drives the green within 5 yards of the hole.

Jesus slices the ball and it goes into the water hazard. He quickly runs across the water and hits his second onto the green 2 inches from the hole.

The old man tees off with a short worm burner that trickles into the hazard. Soon after a fish eats the ball and swims across the pond with it in its mouth. Just then an eagle swoops down and snatches the fish with the golf ball and flies off. The eagle loses its grip and drops the fish on the green. The fish then spits out the ball and it rolls into the hole for a hole in one.

Jesus turns to the old man and replies, "Play fair dad!"

Thread Number 666...I am so screwed!

669 Kragar  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 10:39:25pm

re: #666 Dustyvet

The version I heard was Moses, Jesus, and the old man. Moses parted the water at the water hazard.

670 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 10:39:54pm

re: #645 capitalist piglet

WHAT?!? And here I had this whole ritual blood sacrifice party set up for the occasion next month. All these decorations and set pieces designed around non-euclidean geometry (and you know what a pain that is).

Damnit! All the big names were gonna be there, too. There was even gonna be a huge "Dance Dance Revolution" competition.

You can't just re-schedule something like that. What a rip off!

671 realwest  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 10:40:09pm

re: #659 Dustyvet
I don't know and don't give an F what it is, neither!

672 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 10:40:25pm

re: #635 realwest

Hey, no sweat my friend, I understand. Oh, damn, I forgot to tell you that someone sent me an e-mail one day about a topic of forming grass roots organizations which this lizardette had a small part in out here, and all, and said if Dark_Falcon wants my e-mail addy to give it to you.

Give me a couple days to get an anonymous email account together. and thank you for your kind words. This is for you:

Youtube Video
673 Dustyvet  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 10:40:39pm

re: #671 realwest

I don't know and don't give an F what it is, neither!

Grouch...:)

674 SteveC  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 10:41:01pm

re: #657 Killian Bundy

Digital TV delay cost some TV channels $40,000/month

/like four extra months is going to help the morons who couldn't bother to get conversion boxes in the last two years

Why can't we just announce the date, and if you haven't changed over by then, it's your fault? Does that make too much sense?!?!?

675 Kragar  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 10:41:52pm

re: #674 SteveC

Why can't we just announce the date, and if you haven't changed over by then, it's your fault? Does that make too much sense?!?!?

Why worry about personal responsibility at this point?

676 Maximu§  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 10:42:07pm

re: #668 Dustyvet

Thread Number 666...I am so screwed!

Yer gonna Burn for that one!

677 Dustyvet  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 10:42:41pm

re: #676 Maximu§

Yer gonna Burn for that one!

Is it hot in here, or is it just me...:)

678 BryanS  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 10:42:57pm

$40k/station/mo in extra electricity costs ain't very green.

679 Erik The Red  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 10:43:03pm

re: #666 Dustyvet


Was waiting for the hopen thread to start posting today's bad jokes but ..

This man goes to confession and says, "Forgive me father for I have sinned." The priest asks if he would like to confess his sins and the man replies that he used the "F-word" over the weekend.

The priest says, "Oh okay, just say three Hail Marys and try to watch your language."

The man replies that he would like to confess as to why he said the "F-word". The priest sighs and tells him to continue.

Well father I played golf on Sunday with my buddies instead of going to church.

The priest says, "And you got upset over that and swore?"

The man replied, "No, that wasn't why I swore. On the first tee I duck-hooked my drive well left into the trees."

The priest said, "And that's when you swore."

The man replied, a little testily because of the constant interruptions, "No, it wasn't. When I walked up the fairway, I noticed my ball got a lucky bounce and I had a clear shot to the green. However, before I could hit the ball, a squirrel ran by and grabbed my ball and scurried up a tree."

The priest asked, "Is that when you said the 'F-word'?"

The man replied, "No, because an eagle then flew by and caught the squirrel in its sharp talons and flew away."

The priest let out a breath and queried, "Is that when you swore?"

The man replied, "No, because the eagle flew over the green and the dying squirrel let go of my golf ball and it landed within 5 inches of the hole."

The priest screamed, "Don't tell me you missed the fucking putt!"

680 rawmuse  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 10:43:47pm

A man checks in to a hotel with his family, not wanting the kids to surf the adult channels, he tells the receptionist
"May I please have the pr0n channels disabled?"
She responded, "You sick freak, all we have is the REGULAR pr0n!"

681 LeePro  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 10:43:56pm

re: #631 NY Nana

/There's good news tonight!

Excellent post {Nana}! Felt really old when I realized I was very familiar with the likes of Edward R. Murrow. Eric Sevareid and Walter Winchell, but the link about AA was the clincher! Excellent, excellent info there for those inclined.

Wrote a book, myself about the subject — its beginnings and superb growth in Memphis — for my senior project when I returned to complete my degree in the 1990s.

~20 years soon!

682 gmsc  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 10:44:04pm

re: #645 capitalist piglet

So I guess they're pushing out the date for the conversion on the whole television thingy to June.

But I digress.

We were promised CHANGE!™, weren't we?

683 realwest  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 10:44:28pm

re: #672 Dark_Falcon Thank you kindly! Great song!

684 Rustler  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 10:44:43pm

re: #56 Truck Monkey Shooting land fish in a cage instead of sea kittens in a barrel?

685 BryanS  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 10:45:11pm

re: #678 BryanS

According to the latest fox news update, guess it already passed. Kind of like groundhogs day except we have 4 more months of those damned commercials.

686 realwest  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 10:45:43pm

re: #677 Dustyvet
Just you, Dusty, just you..............and would y'all mind standing a bit furher away - like say, a mile or so?!

687 tradewind  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 10:45:55pm

Here's a goodwill gesture the US can make: loan the Pals this exhibit for their zoo.
Please don't throw peanuts into the cage.
[Link: ph.news.yahoo.com...]

688 SteveC  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 10:46:01pm

re: #675 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Why worry about personal responsibility at this point?

Seriously....

Moving on, I went to visit my grandmother last Friday. 95 years old, can't see well, uses hearing aids. She asked me if I watched the "Thing in Washington."

I had the TV on, but I wasn't really paying attention, grandma.

"I can't watch that man," she said. "He bothers me."

Well, hell, 95 years old and still telling the truth! (He bothers me too, grandma!)

689 Dustyvet  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 10:47:07pm

re: #686 realwest

Just you, Dusty, just you..............and would y'all mind standing a bit furher away - like say, a mile or so?!

Otays...taking bat and ball and going home...

690 BlueCanuck  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 10:47:26pm

re: #666 Dustyvet

Jesus and Moses were down at Pebble Beach playing around of golf. They got to one hole with a wicked water trap. Moses took one look and turned to Jesus and said, "I think you are going to need the 5 iron for this shot."
Jesus says, "Nope, I have seen Tiger Woods do it with the 3 iron, so that's what I am going to use." Sure enough he uses the 3 iron, and into the water hazard it goes. So Moses parts the water, and retrieves Jesus golf ball, an on the return states again that the 5 iron would be best. Jesus insists that Tiger Woods uses the 3 iron so that's what he's going to use. This happens two more times with the same results, and Moses retrieving the ball.

And so the fourth time it happens, Moses goes to Jesus, "Enough, you can retrieve your own golf ball."
So Jesus walks on water and picks up his wall and returns to the shore.

A golfer sees this and goes to Moses, "Who does that guy think he is? Jesus Christ?"

And Moses goes, "Nope, today it's Tiger Woods."


/forgive me for being so sacreligous. . . . .

691 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 10:47:44pm

re: #682 gmsc

I was told there would be rainbows and unicorns.

692 capitalist piglet  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 10:48:27pm

Well, I guess it (the digital conversion delay) still has to make it through the House, but The One is for it, so it's probably a done deal.

Obama doesn't want his base to miss a single minute of his fawning news coverage. Get those people converter boxes, dammit!

693 Dustyvet  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 10:48:52pm

In Heaven:

The cooks are French,
The policemen are English,
The mechanics are German,
The lovers are Italian,
The bankers are Swiss.


In Hell:

The cooks are English,
The policemen are German,
The mechanics are French,
The lovers are Swiss,
The bankers are Italian.

694 capitalist piglet  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 10:49:24pm

re: #691 Slumbering Behemoth

I was told there would be rainbows and unicorns.

Check the commode off the Oval Office.

695 gmsc  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 10:49:30pm

re: #691 Slumbering Behemoth

I was told there would be rainbows and unicorns.

Yep, you were. And Sharmuta was told there would be no math.

How do I break this to you?

696 realwest  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 10:49:33pm

re: #653 realwest
Uh, btw y'all - I just threw in guess who the name of the second largest,most valuable guitar collection is to just throw you off (although he WAS in the Discovery Channel's Documentary, talking about Segal's collection.
Steven Stills owns the Second most valuable and largest gutiar collection in the World - unless he lost a hunk of it when Katrina went through Christan Pass.

697 SanFranciscoZionist  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 10:50:20pm

re: #693 Dustyvet

In Heaven:

The cooks are French,
The policemen are English,
The mechanics are German,
The lovers are Italian,
The bankers are Swiss.


In Hell:

The cooks are English,
The policemen are German,
The mechanics are French,
The lovers are Swiss,
The bankers are Italian.

I would prefer it if the cooks were Chinese.

698 Dustyvet  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 10:50:25pm

Indifference will be the downfall of mankind, but who cares?

699 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 10:50:50pm

re: #691 Slumbering Behemoth

I was told there would be rainbows and unicorns.

I told you: Obama has had to divert his teams of unicorns. It takes 4 unicorns to pull a liberal's head out his or her ass. And there are an awful of LLL's needing the treatment, so the unicorns are going to be busy for a while.

700 slokat  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 10:50:59pm

re: #691 Slumbering Behemoth

I was told there would be rainbows and unicorns.

I was always skeptical about the unicorns that farted rainbows... in my life, any fart you could see was probably fatal.

701 realwest  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 10:51:14pm

re: #696 realwest
pimf Pass Christian.

702 gmsc  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 10:51:57pm

re: #691 Slumbering Behemoth

I was told there would be rainbows and unicorns.

Here you go...

Youtube Video
703 LeePro  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 10:52:15pm

re: #639 Maximu§

I wanna go to bed, but my 90 lb. America Bulldog is laying in my spot...:(

Oh, my!
Your bulldog is laying? You absolutely MUST take pictures of the eggs ! ! !

Oh, wait...
You meant your bulldog is lying in your spot.

704 slokat  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 10:53:07pm

re: #703 LeePro

I've never known a bulldog to lie...

705 Kragar  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 10:53:18pm

A man goes on a two month business trip to Europe and leaves his cat, to whom he’s very attached, with his brother. Three days before his return he calls his brother.

Brother 1: So how is my cat doing?

Brother 2: She's Dead

Brother 1: OMG she's dead? What do you mean she's dead! I loved that cat. Couldn't you think of a nicer way to tell me! I'm leaving in 3 days. You could have broken it to me a little more gently. You could have told me today that she got out of the house or something. Then when I called before I left you could have told me, well, we found her but she got up on the roof and we're having trouble getting her down. Then when I called you from the airport you could have told me the fire department was there with a net and scared her off the roof but she missed the net and unfortunately died instantly when she hit the ground.

Brother 2: I'm sorry...you're right...that was insensitive I won't let it happen again.

Brother 1: Alright, alright, forget about it. Anyway, how is Mom doing?

Brother 2: Well, Mom got up on the roof…

706 realwest  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 10:53:19pm

Well y'all I gotta go sleep now - I hope you all have a GREAT EVENING/EARLY MORNING and that I get the chance to see you all down the road.

Good night, all.

707 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 10:53:30pm

re: #693 Dustyvet

In Heaven:

The cooks are French,
The policemen are English,
The mechanics are German,
The lovers are Italian,
The bankers are Swiss.

In Hell:

The cooks are English,
The policemen are German,
The mechanics are French,
The lovers are Swiss,
The bankers are Italian.

I'd take all of those for heaven except the English police, given how useless the cops over there are these days. It would be better rendered: In Heaven, the cops and firemen are all from New York. The NYPD and FDNY know how to do their jobs.

708 gmsc  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 10:53:32pm

re: #703 LeePro

Oh, my!
Your bulldog is laying? You absolutely MUST take pictures of the eggs ! ! !

Oh, wait...
You meant your bulldog is lying in your spot.

I think I have a new phrase for doubting someone - "That's bulldog eggs!"

709 Erik The Red  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 10:54:17pm

couple was on their honeymoon, lying in bed, about ready to consummate
their marriage, when the new bride says to the husband, "I have a confession
to make, I'm not a virgin."

The husband replies, "That's no big thing in this day and age."

The wife continues, "Yeah, I've been with one other guy."

"Oh yeah? Who was the guy?"

"Tiger Woods."

"Tiger Woods the golfer?"

"Yeah."

"Well he's rich, famous and handsome. I can see why you went to bed with him."

The husband and wife then make passionate love. When they get done, the
husband gets up and walks to the telephone.

"What are you doing?" says the wife.
The husband says, "I'm hungry. I was going to call room service and get some
food."

"Tiger wouldn't do that."

"Oh yeah? What would Tiger do?"

"He'd come back to bed and do it a second time."

The husband puts down the phone and goes back to bed to make love with his
wife a second time. When they finish, he gets up and goes over to the phone.

"What are you doing?" she says.

The husband says, "I'm still hungry so I was going to get room service to get
some food."

"Tiger wouldn't do that."

"Oh yeah? What would Tiger do?"

"He'd come back to bed and do it one more time."

The guy slams down the phone and goes back to bed and makes love to his wife
one more time. When they finish he's tired and beat. He drags himself over to
the phone and starts to dial.

The wife asks, "Are you calling room service?"

"No! I'm calling Tiger Woods to find out what's par for this hole!"

710 SteveC  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 10:54:17pm

Right in the middle of the church service there is a flash of light and the Devil appears! The Pastor runs out the back door and the congregation heads for the exits, except for this one old man on the back pew.

"Mister," The Devil says. "Do you know who I am?"

"Yep."

"And I don't scare you?"

"Nope," the old man says. He hasn't moved a muscle.

After a long pause, the Devil asks "Why not?"

"I was married to your sister for forty years," the old man replies.

711 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 10:56:42pm

re: #702 gmsc

Here you go...


Ugg, I can actually feel my blood crystallizing when tha tis playing, its so sugary.

712 Kragar  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 10:58:43pm

A young man is a bar with some friends when an old man approaches their table, looks right at the young man and says "I fucked your mother!"

His friends are shocked, but the young man waves him off. A little later, the old man wanders by again "I slipped it to your Mom and she LOVED it!"

Again, his friends are outraged, but the young man ignores him.

Later still, the old man approaches the table. Before he can say anything, the young man stops him. "Dad, you're drunk. Go home to mom."

713 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 10:58:46pm

re: #694 capitalist piglet

Check the commode off the Oval Office.

No, no, no. It's the unicorns that are supposed to be shitting the rainbows. I ain't checking the OO toilet for nothin'.

re: #695 gmsc

I'm hip to the unicorn thing. My gov't issue unicorn arrived not too long ago, and it turned out to be nothing more than a worn out old donkey with a traffic cone tied to it's head.

But, um, what's this about math? Do you mean to tell me that not only do I NOT get my rainbow shitting unicorn, but now I have to do math. Dude! This whole administration is a rip-off.

BIG CHANGE IS RIPPING US OFF!

714 capitalist piglet  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 10:59:57pm

Okay, piglet will take a shot:

So a guy is having trouble picking up girls at the beach, and he asks his friend, a lifeguard, what his secret is.

His lifeguard buddy says, "Well, you gotta take a sock, and stuff it into your suit."

The guy shows up the next day, with a sock stuffed into his suit. Every girl he encounters is visibly repulsed.

Puzzled by this, he heads over to his lifeguard buddy's perch, and says, "Hey, I tried the sock thing you told me about, but it doesn't work! The response I get from chicks is even worse!"

The lifeguard says, "That's because you're supposed to put the sock in the front."

715 Erik The Red  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 11:00:11pm

I might be late

Frank joined a threesome; and as he'd had a very successful day he was invited back the next day for a game at 8 a.m.

"Look fellers, I'd sure like to play," said Frank, "but I could be two minutes late!"

Next morning he showed up right on time, played another lovely round but this time he played every stroke left-handed. Again, he was invited to join the threesome at 8 a.m. the following day.

"Sure, I'll be here," said Frank, "but remember I could be late, but it will only be a couple of minutes!"

"We'll wait," one of the golfers assured him. "But by the way, could you explain something that's been mystifying us all. Yesterday you played right-handed and today you played left-handed. Obviously you're proficient at both so how do you decided which way to play.'

"Ah well," Frank answered, "when I wake up in the morning, if my wife's lying on her right side, I play right-handed and if she's lying on her left side, I play left-handed. Simple as that."

"But what if she's lying on her back?"

"That's when I'm two minutes late!"

716 gmsc  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 11:00:27pm

re: #711 Dark_Falcon

Ugg, I can actually feel my blood crystallizing when tha tis playing, its so sugary.

Did you ever see the Simpsons episode where they parodied Thelma and Louise? Marge sees her new friend decked out in leathers, and strains to say, "Well, you look . . . er, nice."

The friend replies, "Marge, today isn't about 'nice', it's about . . ." (pops cassette into car's tape player, which begins playing) "Sunshine, lollipops, and rainbows everywhere . . . " (hurriedly pop tape out, flips it over, and pops it back into the player) "Welcome to the Jungle . . ."

717 capitalist piglet  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 11:01:49pm

re: #713 Slumbering Behemoth

No, no, no. It's the unicorns that are supposed to be shitting the rainbows. I ain't checking the OO toilet for nothin'.

Seriously? I have a friend who claims to produce both. I'll have to have a talk with him, I guess.

718 Erik The Red  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 11:01:52pm

Hold it like you would...

A woman is learning how to golf. She has been teaching herself to play for more than three months and she is really bad. She decides to consult a golf pro.

When she sees the golf pro, she explains how bad she is and he tells her to go ahead and hit the ball. She does. The ball goes about 50 yards into the brush slicing to the right. The golf pro says to the woman, "I can see that you have a lot of problems. Your stance is bad, your head is all over the place, and the worst thing is that grip."

When she asks what can be done to fix the situation, he suggests, "Grab the club gently, as if you were grabbing your husbands penis. When the feeling is right, go ahead and swing." She does just that and the ball goes off the tee perfectly straight for about 275 yards.

The golf pro says to the woman, "That is unbelievable, I didn't think you would do that well. But now on to the next problem. How do we get that golf club out of your mouth?"

719 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 11:02:20pm

re: #716 gmsc

Did you ever see the Simpsons episode where they parodied Thelma and Louise? Marge sees her new friend decked out in leathers, and strains to say, "Well, you look . . . er, nice."

The friend replies, "Marge, today isn't about 'nice', it's about . . ." (pops cassette into car's tape player, which begins playing) "Sunshine, lollipops, and rainbows everywhere . . . " (hurriedly pop tape out, flips it over, and pops it back into the player) "Welcome to the Jungle . . ."

Now that second song is a good one. Another Dark_Falcon favorite:

Youtube Video
720 Dustyvet  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 11:03:09pm

Politicians are like diapers.

They should be changed frequently ... and for the same reason

721 Erik The Red  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 11:03:22pm

It still hurts

A couple of women were playing golf one sunny Saturday morning. The first of the twosome teed off and watched in horror as her ball headed directly toward a foursome of men playing the next hole.

Indeed, the ball hit one of the men, and he immediately clasped his hands together at his crotch, fell to the ground and proceeded to roll around in evident agony.

The woman rushed down to the man and immediately began to apologize. She explained that she was a physical therapist: Please allow me to help.

I'm a physical therapist and I know I could relieve your pain if you'd allow me she told him earnestly.

Ummph, oooh, nnooo, I'll be alright...I'll be fine in a few minutes, he replied breathlessly as he remained in the fetal position still clasping his hands together at his crotch.

But she persisted, and he finally allowed her to help him. She gently took his hands away and laid them to the side, she loosened his pants, and she put her hands inside. She began to massage him. She then asked him: How does that feel? To which he replied: It feels great, but my thumb still hurts like hell.

722 Green Helmet Guy  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 11:04:45pm

Charles what about the time they killed that rare endangered sea turtle and the Reuters described how its part of the Palis "culture" and economy.

It was traditionally slaughtered (much in the same way terrorists slaughter infidels in those AL-Q videos), and its blood can be used as an aphrodisiac.

Save the turtles!
...
Unless its Palestinians who are doing the killing!

723 Erik The Red  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 11:04:48pm

Kawasaki

A businessman traveled to Japan to meet and play golf with a few Japanese business associates. Having nothing to do the night before his game, he decided to solicit the services of a prostitute.

Later, when they were in the throes of passion, she suddenly screamed out "Kawasaki!" Not knowing the translation, he figured it meant he was performing exceptionally well, and so he kept going.

Again she screamed, "Kawasaki! Kawasaki!" And again, he smiled proudly at this congratulation and continued.

Finally, she shrieked "KAWASAKI!" a third time, jumped out of bed and ran from the room. "Must have been too good for her!" he thought to himself, and went to sleep contented with himself.

The next day, while in the middle of his round of golf, one of his Japanese associates hit a perfect 6-iron off the tee right into the cup for a hole-in-one! Remembering his new word and wanting to impress his associates with his linguistic proficiency, the man yelled out Kawasaki!"

Perplexed, the Japanese golfer turned to him and asked, "What do you mean, wrong hole?"

724 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 11:07:20pm

re: #723 Erik The Red

Kawasaki

A businessman traveled to Japan to meet and play golf with a few Japanese business associates. Having nothing to do the night before his game, he decided to solicit the services of a prostitute.

Later, when they were in the throes of passion, she suddenly screamed out "Kawasaki!" Not knowing the translation, he figured it meant he was performing exceptionally well, and so he kept going.

Again she screamed, "Kawasaki! Kawasaki!" And again, he smiled proudly at this congratulation and continued.

Finally, she shrieked "KAWASAKI!" a third time, jumped out of bed and ran from the room. "Must have been too good for her!" he thought to himself, and went to sleep contented with himself.

The next day, while in the middle of his round of golf, one of his Japanese associates hit a perfect 6-iron off the tee right into the cup for a hole-in-one! Remembering his new word and wanting to impress his associates with his linguistic proficiency, the man yelled out Kawasaki!"

Perplexed, the Japanese golfer turned to him and asked, "What do you mean, wrong hole?"

LMAO!

725 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 11:07:22pm

re: #702 gmsc

:shudder: Why you sonova... Must. Find. Palette. Cleanser.

726 gmsc  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 11:08:25pm

Facing Increased Costs, Girl Scouts Downsize Cookie Boxes

It's always seemed a little too effortless to finish off a box of Girl Scout cookies, but if they are a little easier to dust off this year, it's not just in your head. To offset the cost increases of cookie ingredients, Girl Scouts of the USA made the decision to shrink its cookie boxes by a centimeter, package fewer cookies into boxes of Thin Mints, Do-si-dos, and Tagalongs, and reduce the size of its Lemon Chalet Crèmes.

According to the organization, the cost of flour rose by 30 percent, assorted cooking oils by 40 percent, and cocoa by at least 20 percent. The company felt this was the best method of dealing with increasing raw material prices. Alternatively, Girl Scouts could have used cheaper ingredients, or raised cookie prices from their current price of $3.50 per box.

This doesn't come as a surprise to me, since last year producers began rolling out shrunken products in reaction to the price of food on the rise. I'm secretly a bit excited — for once, the downsized box may be enough for me to stop short of a stomachache.

727 Erik The Red  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 11:09:17pm

Cost of a round of golf


It was a Sunday morning and four good buddies were at the first tee. Number one said, "This golf game is costing me dinner for my wife tonight."

Number two said, "That's nothing, I had to agree to my wife's parents spending the weekend with us."

"Ha!" said number three, "I had to give my old lady the credit card to go shopping."

Number four said "Boy are you guys ever screwed up. I woke up this morning and the wife asked what I was planning. I replied 'Golf course or intercourse?' She said, 'Take a sweater' and went back to sleep."

728 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 11:11:08pm

re: #717 capitalist piglet

Seriously? I have a friend who claims to produce both. I'll have to have a talk with him, I guess.

F*ck that, the person you need to talk to is his dealer.

729 Erik The Red  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 11:16:55pm

The hitman

One morning, a man approached the first tee, only to find another guy approaching from the other side. They began talking and decided to play 9 holes together.

After teeing off, they sat off down the fairway, continuing their chat.

"What do you do?" the first man asked.

"I'm a salesman. What about you?"

"I'm a hitman for the mob," replied the second man.

The hitman noticed that the 1st guy started getting a little nervous and continued. "Yeah. I'm the highest paid guy in the business. I'm the best." He stopped, sat down his bag of clubs, and pulled out a fancy, high powered rifle that was loaded with all types of scopes and sights. He than asked the man where he lived.

Still nervous the man replied, "In a subdivision just west of here."

The hitman placed the gun against his shoulder, faced west, peered into a scope and asked "What color roof ya' got?"

"Gray."

Then he asked "What color siding?"

"Yellow."

"You got a silver Toyota?"

"Yeah," replied the first man who was now completely amazed by the accuracy of the hitman's equipment. "That's my wife's car."

"That your red pickup next to it?"

Looking baffled the man asked if he could look through the scope.

Looking through the sights, he said "Hell. That's my buddy Jeff's truck. What the hell is he doing there if I'm..?"

The hitman looked through the scope once more. "Your wife a blond?"

"Yeah."

"Your buddy got black hair?"

"Yeah!"

"Well, I don't know how to tell you, but I think you've got a problem. They're going at it like a couple of teenagers in there." said the hitman.

"Problem?! THEY'VE got the problem! I want you to shoot both of them! Right now!"

The hitman paused and said, "Sure. But it'll cost you. Like I said, I'm the best. I get paid $5,000 per shot."

"I don't care! Just do it! I want you to shoot her right in the head, then shoot him right in the groin!"

The hitman agreed, turned, and took firing position. He carefully stared into the sights, taking careful aim. He then said, "You know what buddy. This is your lucky day. I think I can save you $5,000!"

730 SteveC  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 11:17:58pm

"I lost my job as a highway sign painter. I don't understand the French language," The man said as he sat down at the unemployment office.

The councilor looked at him strangely. "How did you even get that job? You don't understand French, but all highway signs here in Quebec have to be printed in both English and French."

"I paint the English text, and then e-mail a translation service. They respond with a French translation. On my last sign The English text said `No Right Turn on Red' and the French text said `I'll be out of the office for the rest of the week'.'"

731 Pietr  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 11:18:11pm

Got this a while back-let's see how it plays....

1. A vulture boards an airplane, carrying two dead raccoons. The
Stewardess looks at him and says, 'I'm sorry, sir, only one carrion
allowed per passenger.

2. Two fish swim into a concrete wall. The one turns to the other and
says, 'Dam!'

3. Two Eskimos sitting in a kayak were chilly, so they lit a fire in
the craft. Unsurprisingly, it sank, proving once again that you can't have your kayak and heat it, too.

4. Two hydrogen atoms meet. One says, 'I've lost my electron.' The
other says, 'Are you sure?' The first replies, 'Yes, I'm
positive.'

5. Did you hear about the Buddhist who refused Novocain during a root
canal? His goal: transcend dental medication.

6. A group of chess enthusiasts checked into a hotel and were standing
in the lobby discussing their recent tournament victories. After about an
hour, the manager came out of the office and asked them to disperse. "But why", they asked, as they moved off. 'Because,' he said, 'I can't stand chess-nuts boasting in an open foyer.'

7. A woman has twins and gives them up for adoption. One of them goes to a family in Egypt and is named Ahmal. The other goes to a family in Spain; they name him Juan. Years later, Juan sends a picture of himself to his birth mother. Upon receiving the picture, she tells her husband that she wishes she also had a picture of Ahmal. Her husband responds, 'They're twins! If you've seen Juan, you've seen Ahmal.'

8. A group of friars were behind on their belfry payments, so they
opened a small florist shop to raise funds. Since everyone liked to buy flowers from the men of God, a rival florist across town thought the competition was unfair. He asked the good fathers to close down, but they would not.
He went back and begged the friars to close. They ignored him. So, the
rival florist hired Hugh MacTaggart, the roughest and most vicious thug in town to 'persuade' them to close. Hugh beat up the friars and trashed
their store, saying he'd be back if they didn't close up shop.
Terrified, they did so, thereby proving that only Hugh can prevent florist friars.

9. Mahatma Gandhi, as you know, walked barefoot most of the time, which produced an impressive set of calluses on his feet. He also ate very little, which made him rather frail and, with his odd diet, he suffered from bad breath. This made him (Oh, man, this is SO BAD, it's good) a super calloused fragile mystic hexed by halitosis.

10. And, finally, there was the person who sent ten different puns to
friends, with the hope that at least one of the puns would make them
laugh.

No pun in ten did.

732 Rustler  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 11:19:03pm

re: #299 Dianna
From the Obamaid punchbowl.

733 Scion9  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 11:21:09pm

re: #730 SteveC

"I lost my job as a highway sign painter. I don't understand the French language," The man said as he sat down at the unemployment office.

The councilor looked at him strangely. "How did you even get that job? You don't understand French, but all highway signs here in Quebec have to be printed in both English and French."

"I paint the English text, and then e-mail a translation service. They respond with a French translation. On my last sign The English text said `No Right Turn on Red' and the French text said `I'll be out of the office for the rest of the week'.'"

This actually happened, except it was a Welsh sign.

734 NY Nana  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 11:22:31pm

re: #681 LeePro

Thanks, Lee. I remember each and every one. Mazel tov for completing your degree like you did!

My favorite memory is the radio in the kitchen when I was a little kid. It was on top of a high cabinet, so that I couldn't get at it.

My Mum zt"l listened to Lowell Thomas every weekday, at about 7 PM, and 1 day I asked why she always had that on, and she said 'I just love Lowell Thomas!'. I actually climbed up on a chair, stretched up, and turned the radio off!

My poor Mum was speechless, and made me climb off the chair carefully, and asked why in the world I did that. I told her that she should love my Dad, not Lowell Thomas!

All I know is that she had a very hard time keeping a straight face, and when I was seated at the table, she was on the phone to one of her sisters, trying to tell her in broken Yiddish, what I had said and done. My Mum and her sisters really could not speak Yiddish very well, and my cousins and I 'broke the code'early on.. ;)

When my Dad zt"l got home from work? I had eaten, as they ate after I was put in my bed...bet she told him!

Amazing what radio was like...it was on the radio I heard the horrific news about JFK's assassination..and stunned, I turned on TV...the rest I don't want to say now, as I had posted about it last week, IIRC..a radio was wonderful, as you had images in your mind...I still keep a local all-news station on all day.

{Lee} I have to go to sleep! I am falling asleep at the computer! /12 year olds need a lot of sleep!

Sweet dreams, all! G'nite, Lee.

735 SummerSong  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 11:23:47pm

re: #726 gmsc

Current price is $3.50 a box? Kid charged me $4 a box just yesterday!

Can't even trust a girl scout these days...tsk, tsk.

736 SteveC  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 11:24:58pm

re: #733 Scion9

This actually happened, except it was a Welsh sign.

?!?!?!

Truth is stranger than fiction!

737 lostlakehiker  Mon, Jan 26, 2009 11:29:12pm

re: #119 Maximu§

I can attest that when it became my turn to be "downsized" after 27 years with my former employer, my fellow downsizees were all – with one exception – white, male, 40-50ish, with an average of about 20 years with the company. The demographics of the surviving group were mostly 30-somethings, 60% male, and about 50% Asian (including many H1B's).


In other words, the Smart ones were let go and than replaced with Dummies.


Not bloody likely. The expensive ones were let go, perhaps. There's also the issue of age: a 40 year old may be just as good as a 30, but 15 years later, it's a different story. And the medical expenses rise as employees age. As long as employers are required to offer medical insurance to every worker, all at the same price regardless of the real cost, employers will rationally prefer younger workers when all else is close to equal.

Or maybe, just maybe, Asians are bright enough to make the cut. Ya think?

738 chemicalcorpse  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 4:30:39am

The absurdity of the two-state 'solution' manifests itself again; these poor bastards are deserving of nothing.

This comedy will continue to play out until one side prevails; there will never be any co-existence (it isn't desired on one side). Kind of like the inevitable divorce... can't reconcile when one of the parties has moved out and has another partner.

739 mean Gene  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 8:16:27am

Thanks for the ''before'' video, Charles.
Those lions were in the tiniest enclosure!
Can you imagine if American zoos allowed such a cramped existence for even smaller animals?
All Hell would break loose by the animal right's people.
And what's with a cat enclosure?
Here, we'd call that ''the pound."
Anyway.....Hamas rigs the joint so that even their own zoo keeper stays away and the animals die.
IDF comes in, finds all of that and defuses the explosives.
AND Israel is to blame?
I don't think so.

740 ashan  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 8:32:15am

I understand that the IDF rescued a couple of lions early in the fighting from, I believe, a different "zoo". The Palithug abuse of animals should be subject to an investigation. They treat the people as badly as the animals.

741 thefallingman  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 8:37:52am

Oh come on! Clearly these were defensive booby traps!

742 lawrior  Tue, Jan 27, 2009 9:21:54am

I have never so wished for a lion escape in all of my days.


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