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Forgive me my nonsense as I also forgive the nonsense of those who think they talk sense.
— Robert Frost
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Sharmuta Fri, May 15, 2009 11:09:58pm |
Forgive me my nonsense as I also forgive the nonsense of those who think they talk sense.-Robert Frost
I had no idea Frost spent time in DC.
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Dark_Falcon Fri, May 15, 2009 11:10:31pm |
I'll take the posting of the open thread as my cue to head off to bed. Goodnight, all.
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Dark_Falcon Fri, May 15, 2009 11:10:49pm |
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eddie- the Aggravator Fri, May 15, 2009 11:13:24pm |
Morning gang,
It's a rainy day here on the moors. What's it like in your neck of the woods?
"Forgive me my nonsense as I also forgive the nonsense of those who think they talk sense."
Sounds like good advice.
HOWEVER,
How about those who talk trillions?
Stimulating subject that!
Right Mr President?
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Van Helsing Fri, May 15, 2009 11:13:33pm |
Is Nancy Pelosi a liar or merely incompetent?
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zombie Fri, May 15, 2009 11:14:12pm |
An open thread?!?!?
But there's nothing to argue about in an open thread!
Where is the dramatic tension? The human conflict?
We need red meat! C'mon, throw us something to tussle over.
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Fenway_Nation Fri, May 15, 2009 11:14:26pm |
re: #8 Van Helsing
Is Nancy Pelosi a liar or merely incompetent?
You're not giving her enough credit- she could be both...
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Desert Dog Fri, May 15, 2009 11:14:35pm |
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Van Helsing Fri, May 15, 2009 11:14:38pm |
re: #7 eddie- the Aggravator
Rain. Nice thought. I'll get back to you at the end of July and see if we've had any.
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Desert Dog Fri, May 15, 2009 11:15:18pm |
re: #10 zombie
An open thread?!?!?
But there's nothing to argue about in an open thread!
Where is the dramatic tension? The human conflict?
We need red meat! C'mon, throw us something to tussle over.
You've tasted BLOOD and you want MORE, eh?
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Fenway_Nation Fri, May 15, 2009 11:15:34pm |
re: #10 zombie
Issue #1- Should the Muslima from the Muslima.com banner ads run for office?
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Dancing along the light of day Fri, May 15, 2009 11:15:59pm |
re: #10 zombie
Do you believe that Nancy Pelosi did not know about waterboarding in 2002?
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Van Helsing Fri, May 15, 2009 11:16:05pm |
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gmsc Fri, May 15, 2009 11:16:48pm |
Robert Frost himself reads Stopping by Woods on a Snowy Evening
(No, this isn't one of those dorky poetryanimations things. The video at the link above is the real Robert Frost reading his own work.)
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NJDhockeyfan Fri, May 15, 2009 11:17:04pm |
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Dancing along the light of day Fri, May 15, 2009 11:17:54pm |
re: #10 zombie
How would you propose to fix the California budget?
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WindHorse Fri, May 15, 2009 11:18:22pm |
I'm going out to clean the pasture spring.....
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freetoken Fri, May 15, 2009 11:18:41pm |
re: #10 zombie
An open thread?!?!?
But there's nothing to argue about in an open thread!
Oh, c'mon.. how about:
Open Marriage
Open Relationships
Open Borders
.... just to name a few.
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Sharmuta Fri, May 15, 2009 11:18:46pm |
We can always discuss a person's right to their own anatomy....
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Fenway_Nation Fri, May 15, 2009 11:19:54pm |
re: #20 NJDhockeyfan
Mopey '80s guy in convertible Orchestral Manouvers in the Dark (OMD for short).
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Clemente Fri, May 15, 2009 11:20:49pm |
re: #8 Van Helsing
Is Nancy Pelosi a liar or merely incompetent?
By her looks, una chupacabra; by her words, lately, an incompetent liar well out of her depth.
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Van Helsing Fri, May 15, 2009 11:20:51pm |
I was talking to my (adult) daughter the other day and she brought up the Palin 'I can see Russia from my house' canard. She knew it was BS, yet it stood and we heard almost nothing about Joe the Mouth Biden's Roosevelt on in TV in 1929 (which he actually said).
Why didn't biden's HUGE gaffe get anywhere near the air time of some marginal comedy dork's play on a Palin statement?
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Van Helsing Fri, May 15, 2009 11:22:03pm |
re: #26 Clemente
Never thought of her as a goat sucker. I figure she would have scared the goat away.
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WindHorse Fri, May 15, 2009 11:22:24pm |
re: #27 Van Helsing
....well....cause, like, what Joe meant was....like (you know) right.... right? and Sarah Palin was like a beauty queen or something....
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gmsc Fri, May 15, 2009 11:23:09pm |
re: #21 Floral Giraffe
How would you propose to fix the California budget?
First, split it into 2 new states – North California and South California . . . (North gets Silicon Valley)
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Abu Al-Poopypants Fri, May 15, 2009 11:24:30pm |
re: #27 Van Helsing
Why didn't biden's HUGE gaffe get anywhere near the air time of some marginal comedy dork's play on a Palin statement?
That was a rhetorical question, right?
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NJDhockeyfan Fri, May 15, 2009 11:24:44pm |
Man tried to hire prostitute for his son, 14
LONDON (Reuters Life!) – A man who tried to hire a prostitute to take his 14-year-old son's virginity as a present was spared jail by a British court on Friday.
The Polish national took the boy out in his car and allowed him to pick out the prostitute, who was standing at the side of the road in the red-light district of Nottingham, central England.
But the 42-year-old father was arrested because the teenager had chosen an undercover police officer, Nottingham Crown Court heard.
The man, who cannot be named for legal reasons, was handed a 10-month prison sentence, suspended for a year, after he admitted a charge of trying to solicit a woman to have sex with a child, the Press Association reported.
My great-grandfather did this for my grandfather. That was a long time ago in Denmark.
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Fenway_Nation Fri, May 15, 2009 11:25:12pm |
re: #27 Van Helsing
Let's not forget his comment about all Indians working at 7-11.
/Still waiting for an update on who torched Palin's church, MSM
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Van Helsing Fri, May 15, 2009 11:25:40pm |
re: #26 Clemente
By her looks, una chupacabra; by her words, lately, an incompetent liar well out of her depth.
Yet she will (or maybe not, now) be in charge of how I believe 15% of the GDP (medical expenditures) are going to be dealt with in this country.
No one in congress as far as I can see is up to the task of administering their own office let alone the huge chunks of the economy they've now confiscated.
Scary shit, boys and girls.
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Syrah Fri, May 15, 2009 11:25:44pm |
re: #27 Van Helsing
I was talking to my (adult) daughter the other day and she brought up the Palin 'I can see Russia from my house' canard. She knew it was BS, yet it stood and we heard almost nothing about Joe the Mouth Biden's Roosevelt on in TV in 1929 (which he actually said).
Why didn't biden's HUGE gaffe get anywhere near the air time of some marginal comedy dork's play on a Palin statement?
For many people, telling a lie to achieve a good end is not only justified, but a pious act.
For many on what we call the Left, politics is religion. (Not that there aren't those on the right with the same problem, they just don't run media networks.)
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Desert Dog Fri, May 15, 2009 11:26:00pm |
re: #30 gmsc
First, split it into 2 new states – North California and South California . . . (North gets Silicon Valley)
Have Max Zorin place explosives along the San Andreas and let it slide into the Pacific. Then, I would have ocean front property (in Arizona)
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Van Helsing Fri, May 15, 2009 11:26:09pm |
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freetoken Fri, May 15, 2009 11:26:37pm |
....
Open Primaries
Open Universities
Open Minds
...
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redc1c4 Fri, May 15, 2009 11:27:05pm |
re: #10 zombie
An open thread?!?!?
But there's nothing to argue about in an open thread!
Where is the dramatic tension? The human conflict?
We need red meat! C'mon, throw us something to tussle over.
i offered to meet you, and you declined....
wanna argue about that? %-)
/white smoke
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Desert Dog Fri, May 15, 2009 11:27:26pm |
re: #38 freetoken
....
Open Primaries
Open Universities
Open Minds
...
open bottle
open mouth
dead brain cells
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zombie Fri, May 15, 2009 11:27:54pm |
OK, let's get the ball rolling:
Human activity causes global warming. But the problem is not the manner in which we power our civilizations, or where on the globe that power is generated or expended, but rather the fact that there are simply too many people for the planet to support. We will never solve the global warming problem or the ecological destruction problem or the "social injustice" problem until we massively decrease the number of people on the planet.
But how to do that? Humans like to have sex. You just can't stop 'em from doing it. And without some kind of intervention, sex makes babies. So: What do we do the slow down and then reverse the population explosion?
- Forced abortions, as in China?
- "Abstinence"-only sex education, a la Christians/Bush?
- Give every 12-year girl a reversible tubal ligation, similar to Brave New World?
- Hand out condoms by the fistful every day at school, starting in sixth grade?
- Have a bunch of wars, and kill as many people as possible, just for the sake of decreasing the population?
- Encourage the anti-vaccination crazies, so that diseases and plagues run rampant and bring down the population to a manageable level?
- Legalize all hard drugs so we just kill ourselves en masse with overdoses?
- Tax motherhood?
- Totalitarian intervention of your choice?
Or do we just let the babies keep comin', until we all drown in a tidal wave of death when the sea levels rise?
Your assignment: Find at least three statements in the above comment you strongly disagree with.
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gmsc Fri, May 15, 2009 11:27:59pm |
re: #36 Desert Dog
Have Max Zorin place explosives along the San Andreas and let it slide into the Pacific. Then, I would have ocean front property (in Arizona)
Didn't Lex Luthor already do that?
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Van Helsing Fri, May 15, 2009 11:28:06pm |
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Van Helsing Fri, May 15, 2009 11:28:32pm |
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zombie Fri, May 15, 2009 11:28:43pm |
re: #16 Fenway_Nation
Issue #1- Should the Muslima from the Muslima.com banner ads run for office?
I'd vote for her.
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Desert Dog Fri, May 15, 2009 11:28:50pm |
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redc1c4 Fri, May 15, 2009 11:29:23pm |
re: #36 Desert Dog
Have Max Zorin place explosives along the San Andreas and let it slide into the Pacific. Then, I would have ocean front property (in Arizona)
except, contrary fucks that we are, the PRC would still be there, the golden island of legend, and y'all would fall into the sea.
/surfs up!
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zombie Fri, May 15, 2009 11:29:26pm |
re: #17 Floral Giraffe
Do you believe that Nancy Pelosi did not know about waterboarding in 2002?
Nancy Pelosi watches waterboarding porn every night.
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gmsc Fri, May 15, 2009 11:29:37pm |
re: #36 Desert Dog
Have Max Zorin place explosives along the San Andreas and let it slide into the Pacific. Then, I would have ocean front property (in Arizona)
Otisburg? OTISBURG?!?
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Desert Dog Fri, May 15, 2009 11:29:45pm |
re: #44 Van Helsing
Open sores
That's in the morning when that hot babe you picked up the night before comes into view, sans lager goggles.
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zombie Fri, May 15, 2009 11:30:12pm |
re: #21 Floral Giraffe
How would you propose to fix the California budget?
Pray for a 9.6 earthquake so we all just slide into the sea.
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Desert Dog Fri, May 15, 2009 11:30:55pm |
re: #55 zombie
Pray for a 9.6 earthquake so we all just slide into the sea.
My brother lives in Pleasanton. He tells me that when the big one hits, the rest of the USA will slide into the Atlantic
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zombie Fri, May 15, 2009 11:31:00pm |
re: #23 freetoken
Oh, c'mon.. how about:
Open Marriage
Open Relationships
Open Borders
.... just to name a few.
Those polyamorous Mexicans are the source of all our problems!
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gmsc Fri, May 15, 2009 11:31:10pm |
re: #55 zombie
Pray for a 9.6 earthquake so we all just slide into the sea.
Post-9.6 California earthquake tourism video:
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freetoken Fri, May 15, 2009 11:31:34pm |
re: #41 zombie
[...] the fact that there are simply too many people for the planet to support.
Ummm....
Open legs?
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Van Helsing Fri, May 15, 2009 11:32:10pm |
re: #41 zombie
Nice.
I'll disagree with:
Forced abortions - I have that respect for life thing going
Anti-Vaccination - Please don't let your stoopid screw up my progeny
Totalitarian intervention - all those f***ers have ADHD. They'll never stick to the problem at hand.
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Syrah Fri, May 15, 2009 11:32:22pm |
re: #38 freetoken
....
Open Primaries
Open Universities
Open Minds
...
Open Primaries = The Politics of blandness.
Open Universities = More choices of where to go for lunch or for beer after class. (Don't know what Open Universities suggests.)
Open Minds = That scene in Total Recall where the Mutant Belly telepath makes Quaid remember the part of the dream he had forgotten.
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Desert Dog Fri, May 15, 2009 11:32:41pm |
re: #58 zombie
Those polyamorous Mexicans are the source of all our problems!
Damn polyamourous Mexicans!
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Van Helsing Fri, May 15, 2009 11:33:48pm |
re: #52 Desert Dog
That's in the morning when that hot babe you picked up the night before comes into view, sans lager goggles.
You knew me when I was younger? Damn, I'm lucky I still have both arms.
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capitalist piglet Fri, May 15, 2009 11:33:51pm |
re: #56 Gus 802
Anyone see Rawmuse lately?
I remember the last time I saw him...he got into it a little bit over the Tea Parties, I think, and that's the last time I remember him being here.
He's always fun to read. I hope he didn't leave for good or anything.
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zombie Fri, May 15, 2009 11:34:01pm |
re: #57 Desert Dog
My brother lives in Pleasanton. He tells me that when the big one hits, the rest of the USA will slide into the Atlantic
I like your brother already!
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Desert Dog Fri, May 15, 2009 11:34:33pm |
re: #64 Van Helsing
You knew me when I was younger? Damn, I'm lucky I still have both arms.
Coyote ugly, eh? :-)
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pat Fri, May 15, 2009 11:34:54pm |
Frankly, I think Pelosi may be mentally disturbed. Her behavior resembles psychiatric dissociation.
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Van Helsing Fri, May 15, 2009 11:35:43pm |
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Desert Dog Fri, May 15, 2009 11:36:02pm |
re: #68 pat
Frankly, I think Pelosi may be mentally disturbed. Her behavior resembles psychiatric dissociation.
Good thing she doesn't have a position of power that effects each and everyone of us, eh?
/
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Fenway_Nation Fri, May 15, 2009 11:36:59pm |
re: #68 pat
Frankly, I think Pelosi may be mentally disturbed. Her behavior resembles psychiatric dissociation.
Nah...those are just San Francisco values.
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Gus Fri, May 15, 2009 11:37:01pm |
re: #65 capitalist piglet
I remember the last time I saw him...he got into it a little bit over the Tea Parties, I think, and that's the last time I remember him being here.
He's always fun to read. I hope he didn't leave for good or anything.
Really? I hope not. I'd miss that pipe of his especially when he would talk about old gigs.
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Van Helsing Fri, May 15, 2009 11:37:03pm |
C'mon kids. Zombie's 41 had some interesting stuff. What are y'all waiting for?
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redc1c4 Fri, May 15, 2009 11:38:02pm |
re: #68 pat
Frankly, I think Pelosi may be mentally disturbed. Her behavior resembles psychiatric dissociation.
or just life as usual in the Bay Area......
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Pawn of the Oppressor Fri, May 15, 2009 11:38:15pm |
re: #55 zombie
Pray for a 9.6 earthquake so we all just slide into the sea.
I think we should kick everybody out and give it to the Jews as "Israel Mk.2", just in case Ahmedinejad makes good on his threats. It might be tough to make all that wine Kosher, but in the end I don't think the Israeli government could run it any worse.
/kidding... sorta
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pat Fri, May 15, 2009 11:39:02pm |
Kauai edges Waialua for Division II state softball title, 1-0
[Link: www.honoluluadvertiser.com...]
YES!
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redc1c4 Fri, May 15, 2009 11:39:14pm |
re: #73 Van Helsing
C'mon kids. Zombie's 41 had some interesting stuff. What are y'all waiting for?
it looked like a troll post, so i turned it in.....
/don't wanna get deleted.
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Gus Fri, May 15, 2009 11:40:11pm |
re: #77 redc1c4
it looked like a troll post, so i turned it in.....
/don't wanna get deleted.
/White smoke.
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gmsc Fri, May 15, 2009 11:40:25pm |
re: #73 Van Helsing
C'mon kids. Zombie's 41 had some interesting stuff. What are y'all waiting for?
Personally, I come to the open threads to relax. If you want to talk about controversial issues from the threads, they all still have their comments boxes open.
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Fenway_Nation Fri, May 15, 2009 11:41:07pm |
- Have a bunch of wars, and kill as many people as possible, just for the sake of decreasing the population?
'Agree' would be the wrong phrase, but I think that's the most likely one. I'm guessing the wars will be waged over diminished resources as much as anything idealogical.
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Van Helsing Fri, May 15, 2009 11:41:59pm |
re: #79 gmsc
Personally, I come to the open threads to relax. If you want to talk about controversial issues from the threads, they all still have their comments boxes open.
True. I was just late to the party tonight.
So how 'bout that Hubble repair?
Cool stuff.
I'm sooo easily distracted.
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Catttt Fri, May 15, 2009 11:42:11pm |
re: #45 gmsc
So open, their brains fall out.
-------------------------------------------
Nobody move! I dropped me brain! ~Captain Jack Sparrow
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Desert Dog Fri, May 15, 2009 11:42:28pm |
re: #79 gmsc
Personally, I come to the open threads to relax. If you want to talk about controversial issues from the threads, they all still have their comments boxes open.
That does! I'm going over to the intelligent design thread and down ding all of you heathens!
/
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Gus Fri, May 15, 2009 11:42:47pm |
re: #79 gmsc
Personally, I come to the open threads to relax. If you want to talk about controversial issues from the threads, they all still have their comments boxes open.
That's why we call it the LNDT. ;)
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Desert Dog Fri, May 15, 2009 11:44:43pm |
Well, it's been real and it's been fun....but, Mrs. Desert Dog has just informed me that my allotted LFG time has just expired......what a drag! Good night all
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pat Fri, May 15, 2009 11:45:16pm |
LOL. No I mean she may be mentally disturbed. For real. Megalomania is a sickness. Once thought to be a a royal prerogative, it is in fact a mental disease. I don't think this woman has had a follow up question in years. Proclamations are her specialty. It has taken Obama all of a month to enter this realm, BTW.
Of course Pink Freud knows of what I opine. That is her nic/specialty after all. :)
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Pawn of the Oppressor Fri, May 15, 2009 11:45:17pm |
Wow. There's a big blobby Line of Doom heading down towards DFW on the weather radar.
There is nothing in the world that can ever persuade me to live in the Red River area. They always get hammered by storm systems. I figure I've got to get off the computer at 3 AM, maybe 4 AM at the latest...
/
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gmsc Fri, May 15, 2009 11:45:24pm |
re: #82 Catttt
Nobody move! I dropped me brain! ~Captain Jack Sparrow
I guess that explains this, then:
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pbird Fri, May 15, 2009 11:45:49pm |
re: #73 Van Helsing
C'mon kids. Zombie's 41 had some interesting stuff. What are y'all waiting for?
I don't buy the premise that there are too many people. Weren't we all just bemoaning the fact that we aren't replacing our population in the civilized world? I think ol' Zombo is just trying to provoke.
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Dancing along the light of day Fri, May 15, 2009 11:45:56pm |
re: #50 Sharmuta
LOL! You made me look!
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Silvergirl Fri, May 15, 2009 11:46:31pm |
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Dustyvet Fri, May 15, 2009 11:46:39pm |
A duck walks into a bar and orders a beer and a sandwich.
The bartender looks at him and says, "But you're a duck."
"I see your eyes are working," replies the duck.
"And you talk!" exclaims the bartender.
"I see your ears are working," says the duck, "Now can I have
my beer and my sandwich, please?"
duck.gif"Certainly," says the bartender, "sorry about that, it's just we don't get many ducks in this pub. What are you doing round this way?"
"I'm working on the building site across the road," explains the duck. So the duck drinks his beer, eats his sandwich, pays and leaves.
This continues for 2 weeks. Then one day the circus comes to town. The ringleader of the circus comes into the pub and the bartender tells him about the incredible talking duck.
"Marvelous!" says the ringleader, "get him to come see me."
So the next day, the duck comes into the pub. The bartender says, "Hey, Mr Duck, I lined you up with a top job paying really good money!"
"Yeah?" says the duck, "Sounds great, where is it?"
"At the circus" says the bartender.
"The circus?" the duck enquires.
"That's right," replies the bartender.
"The circus? That place with the big tent? With all the animals? With the big canvas roof with the hole in the middle?" asks the duck.
"That's right!" says the bartender.
The duck looks confused and asks: "What the heck do they want with a dry waller?"
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Van Helsing Fri, May 15, 2009 11:48:16pm |
re: #89 pbird
Well, yeah. And so the zombie did (for me).
then again, it's late Friday night in my tz so what do I know.
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Silvergirl Fri, May 15, 2009 11:49:01pm |
re: #30 gmsc
First, split it into 2 new states – North California and South California . . . (North gets Silicon Valley)
What do we do with all our 50 state flags? Well, we would be working toward Obama's 57 states if we did that. Though we could keep it at 50 if Texas makes good on their secession rumblings.
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Pawn of the Oppressor Fri, May 15, 2009 11:49:14pm |
re: #92 Dustyvet
The duck looks confused and asks: "What the heck do they want with a dry waller?"
Heh.
Fun fact: The duck has been scientifically proven to be the world's funniest animal. If you tell a joke with an animal in it, make the animal a duck.
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Syrah Fri, May 15, 2009 11:50:02pm |
How about this for an open thread controversial topic.
Stephen Hawking, Richard Feynman and Carl Sagan playing Jeopardy.
Who would win?
(At the moment, only Hawking is still with with us, but if they were all still living . . . )
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gmsc Fri, May 15, 2009 11:50:20pm |
re: #96 Pawn of the Oppressor
Heh.
Fun fact: The duck has been scientifically proven to be the world's funniest animal. If you tell a joke with an animal in it, make the animal a duck.
Why a duck?
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Alberta Oil Peon Fri, May 15, 2009 11:50:34pm |
re: #41 zombie
OK, let's get the ball rolling:
Human activity causes global warming. But the problem is not the manner in which we power our civilizations, or where on the globe that power is generated or expended, but rather the fact that there are simply too many people for the planet to support. We will never solve the global warming problem or the ecological destruction problem or the "social injustice" problem until we massively decrease the number of people on the planet.
But how to do that? Humans like to have sex. You just can't stop 'em from doing it. And without some kind of intervention, sex makes babies. So: What do we do the slow down and then reverse the population explosion?
- Forced abortions, as in China?
- "Abstinence"-only sex education, a la Christians/Bush?
- Give every 12-year girl a reversible tubal ligation, similar to Brave New World?
- Hand out condoms by the fistful every day at school, starting in sixth grade?
- Have a bunch of wars, and kill as many people as possible, just for the sake of decreasing the population?
- Encourage the anti-vaccination crazies, so that diseases and plagues run rampant and bring down the population to a manageable level?
- Legalize all hard drugs so we just kill ourselves en masse with overdoses?
- Tax motherhood?
- Totalitarian intervention of your choice?Or do we just let the babies keep comin', until we all drown in a tidal wave of death when the sea levels rise?
Your assignment: Find at least three statements in the above comment you strongly disagree with.
Heh! I'll bite.
1. "Human activity causes global warming."
2. "But the problem is not the manner in which we power our civilizations, or where on the globe that power is generated or expended, but rather the fact that there are simply too many people for the planet to support."
3. "We will never solve the global warming problem or the ecological destruction problem or the "social injustice" problem until we massively decrease the number of people on the planet."
How's that for a start?
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Dustyvet Fri, May 15, 2009 11:51:06pm |
One day at kindergarten a teacher said to the class of 5-year-olds, "I'll give $2 to the child who can tell me who was the most famous man who ever lived."
An Irish boy put his hand up and said, "It was St Patrick".
The teacher said, "Sorry Sean, that's not correct."
Then a Scottish boy put his hand up and said, "It was St. Andrew."
The teacher replied, "I'm sorry, Hamish, that's not right either."
Finally, a Jewish boy raised his hand and said, "It was Jesus Christ." The teacher said, "That's absolutely right, Marvin, come up here and get your $2."
As the teacher was giving Marvin his money, she said, "You know Marvin, since you're Jewish, I was very surprised you said Jesus Christ." Marvin replied, "Yeah. In my heart I knew it was Moses, but business is business."
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Gus Fri, May 15, 2009 11:51:12pm |
re: #98 Van Helsing
A beautiful thing...
It is. I spent about 2 hours this morning watching the 2nd space walk. So much dedication.
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Van Helsing Fri, May 15, 2009 11:51:17pm |
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Sharmuta Fri, May 15, 2009 11:51:21pm |
re: #100 Syrah
How about this for an open thread controversial topic.
Stephen Hawking, Richard Feynman and Carl Sagan playing Jeopardy.
Who would win?
(At the moment, only Hawking is still with with us, but if they were all still living . . . )
I'll go with Sagan.
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Silvergirl Fri, May 15, 2009 11:51:44pm |
re: #100 Syrah
How about this for an open thread controversial topic.
Stephen Hawking, Richard Feynman and Carl Sagan playing Jeopardy.
Who would win?
(At the moment, only Hawking is still with with us, but if they were all still living . . . )
I don't know if they would beat that Ken Jennings contestant.
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pat Fri, May 15, 2009 11:52:00pm |
Why do people insists upon Canada Geese, 'Canadian Geese'? It is just wrong.
Reading elsewhere/
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gmsc Fri, May 15, 2009 11:52:19pm |
re: #106 Van Helsing
Because they float in water? Like witches?
So if she weighs the same as a duck, she's made of wood?
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Van Helsing Fri, May 15, 2009 11:52:56pm |
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gmsc Fri, May 15, 2009 11:54:05pm |
re: #108 Silvergirl
I don't know if they would beat that Ken Jennings contestant.
Even Ken Jennings had his off moments:
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Alberta Oil Peon Fri, May 15, 2009 11:54:13pm |
re: #109 pat
Why do people insists upon Canada Geese, 'Canadian Geese'? It is just wrong.
Reading elsewhere/
And why do they insist upon calling back bacon "Canadian Bacon?"
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gmsc Fri, May 15, 2009 11:54:47pm |
re: #115 Alberta Oil Peon
And why do they insist upon calling back bacon "Canadian Bacon?"
Canadi got back?
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Dustyvet Fri, May 15, 2009 11:55:24pm |
1. There is one word in the English language that is always pronounced incorrectly. What is it?
2. A man gave one son 10 cents and another son was given 15 cents. What time is it?
3. A boat has a ladder that has six rungs, each rung is one foot apart. The bottom rung is one foot from the water. The tide rises at 12 inches every 15 minutes. High tide peaks in one hour. When the tide is at it's highest, how many rungs are under water?
4. There is a house with four walls. Each wall faces south. There is a window in each wall. A bear walks by one of the windows. What color is the bear?
5. Is half of two plus two equal to two or three?
6. There is a room. The shutters are blowing in. There is broken glass on the floor. There is water on the floor. You find Sloppy dead on the floor. Who is Sloppy? How did Sloppy die?
7. How much dirt would be in a hole 6 feet deep and 6 feet wide that has been dug with a square edged shovel?
8. If I were in Hawaii and dropped a bowling ball in a bucket of water which is 45 degrees F, and dropped another ball of the same weight, mass,and size in a bucket at 30 degrees F, both of them at the same time, which ball would hit the bottom of the bucket first?
Same question, but the location is in Canada?
9. What is the significance of the following: The year is 1978, thirty-four minutes past noon on May 6th.
10. What can go up a chimney down, but can't go down a chimney up? (hint... chim chimminy)
11. If a farmer has 5 haystacks in one field and 4 haystacks in the other field, how many haystacks would he have if he combined them all in the center field?
12. What is it that goes up and goes down but does not move?
~~~~~~~~~~~~
Answers
1. The word "incorrectly." {Almost cracked your brain, didn't you?}
2. 1:45. The man gave away a total of 25 cents. He divided it between two people. Therefore, he gave a quarter to two.
3. None, the boat rises with the tide. Duh.
4. White. If all the walls face south, the house is at the North pole, and the bear, therefore, is a polar bear.
5. Three. Well, it seems that it could almost be either, but if you follow the mathematical orders of operation, division is performed before addition. So... half of two is one. Then add two, and the answer is three.
6. Sloppy is a (gold)fish. The wind blew the shutters in, which knocked his goldfish-bowl off the table, and it broke, killing him. {Poor Sloppy.}
7. None. No matter how big a hole is, it's still a hole: the absence of dirt. (And those of you who said 36 cubic feet are wrong for another reason, too. You would have needed the length measurement too. So you don't even know how much air is in the hole.)
8. Both questions, same answer: the ball in the bucket of 45 degree F water hits the bottom of the bucket last. Did you think that the water in the 30 degree F bucket is frozen? Think again. The question said nothing about that bucket having anything in it. Therefore, there is no water (or ice) to slow the ball down...
9. The time and month/date/year American style calendar are 12:34, 5/6/78.
10. An umbrella.
11. One. If he combines all of his haystacks, they all become one big stack.
12. The temperature.
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Van Helsing Fri, May 15, 2009 11:55:34pm |
re: #116 gmsc
Yaarrgghhh!
Of course, you can build bridges out of stone which causes a new set of problems.
And very bad jokes.
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Pawn of the Oppressor Fri, May 15, 2009 11:56:41pm |
re: #100 Syrah
How about this for an open thread controversial topic.
Stephen Hawking, Richard Feynman and Carl Sagan playing Jeopardy.
Who would win?
(At the moment, only Hawking is still with with us, but if they were all still living . . . )
Feynman.
Oh shit, maybe Sagan... But Hawking is Oxford-educated, that has to count towards some broad, trivial knowledge, doesn't it?
That's a harder question than it first appears.
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Sharmuta Fri, May 15, 2009 11:57:05pm |
re: #118 Dustyvet
1. There is one word in the English language that is always pronounced incorrectly. What is it?
"Incorrectly"
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Silvergirl Fri, May 15, 2009 11:57:19pm |
re: #113 gmsc
Even Ken Jennings had his off moments:
I didn't know he ever said that! Alex Trebek was quick on the comeback.
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Sharmuta Fri, May 15, 2009 11:58:07pm |
re: #118 Dustyvet
4. There is a house with four walls. Each wall faces south. There is a window in each wall. A bear walks by one of the windows. What color is the bear?
White
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Van Helsing Fri, May 15, 2009 11:58:07pm |
re: #122 Pawn of the Oppressor
This is bad, but Hawking can't push the button.
/runs, ducking
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Van Helsing Fri, May 15, 2009 11:58:39pm |
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Catttt Fri, May 15, 2009 11:59:41pm |
re: #124 gmsc
OK . . . not a lot of Marx brothers fans in this crowd.
Why not a chicken?
I love the Marx Bros. I even read Harpo's autobiography.
I GOTTA go to bed. My Siamese is beside himself.
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zombie Fri, May 15, 2009 11:59:42pm |
re: #103 Alberta Oil Peon
Heh! I'll bite.
1. "Human activity causes global warming."
2. "But the problem is not the manner in which we power our civilizations, or where on the globe that power is generated or expended, but rather the fact that there are simply too many people for the planet to support."
3. "We will never solve the global warming problem or the ecological destruction problem or the "social injustice" problem until we massively decrease the number of people on the planet."How's that for a start?
A good start! And you didn't even get to the list of offensive options! Excellent disagreement skills.
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Sharmuta Fri, May 15, 2009 11:59:55pm |
I didn't see Dustyvet already posted the answers. That's what I get for not reading the entire post.
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gmsc Sat, May 16, 2009 12:00:00am |
Today in History, May 16th:
Highlights of this day in history: President Andrew Johnson survives a key vote at his Senate trial after his impeachment; First Oscars are presented; Actor Henry Fonda born; Singer Sammy Davis, Jr. and Muppets creator Jim Henson die.
Other notable May 16th events include:
1568 – Mary Queen of Scots flees to England.
1836 – Edgar Allan Poe marries his 13-year-old cousin Virginia.
1843 – The first major wagon train heading for the Pacific Northwest sets out on the Oregon Trail with one thousand pioneers from Elm Grove, Missouri.
1866 – The U.S. Congress eliminates the half dime coin and replaces it with the five cent piece, or nickel.
1920 – In Rome, Pope Benedict XV canonizes Joan of Arc as a saint.
1948 – Chaim Weizmann is elected the first President of Israel.
1951 – The first regularly scheduled transatlantic flights begin between John F Kennedy International Airport in New York City and Heathrow Airport in London, operated by El Al Israel Airlines.
1965 – The Campbell Soup Company introduces SpaghettiOs under its Franco-American brand.
1966 – The Communist Party of China issues the 'May 16 Notice', marking the beginning of the Cultural Revolution.
1988 – A report by United States' Surgeon General C. Everett Koop states that the addictive properties of nicotine are similar to those of heroin and cocaine.
19XX – Erik the Red is unleashed on an unsuspecting world. (My money is on the birth year being 1965 – Erik and SpaghettiOs just seem to go together.)
Happy Birthday, Erik!
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Dustyvet Sat, May 16, 2009 12:00:15am |
A brain walks into a bar and says, "I'll have a pint of beer please."
The barman looks at him and says "Sorry, I can't serve you."
"Why not?" askes the brain.
"You're already out of your head."
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Catttt Sat, May 16, 2009 12:00:34am |
Viaduct.
Why not a chicken?
That's the levee.
Oh - that's where the Jewish people live!
I once shot a bear in my pajamas........
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FurryOldGuyJeans Sat, May 16, 2009 12:00:41am |
re: #30 gmsc
First, split it into 2 new states – North California and South California . . . (North gets Silicon Valley)
3, Northern, Central, and Southern. Central is SF amd Bezerkley, Southern is San Angeles, and Northern is the rest.
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Erik The Red Sat, May 16, 2009 12:01:03am |
Happy Birthday to me. Happy Birthday to me. Happy Birthday to Erik. Happy Birthday to me.
Free drinks are over...............................> on the bar. Please help yourselves. :)
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Throbert McGee Sat, May 16, 2009 12:01:09am |
It just occurred to me that in the Mega Shark vs. Giant Octopus movie...
...they should've had Lorenzo Lamas play a character named "Heathcliff" while Debbie Gibson played "Catherine," so that in the trailers, posters, and other promos they could say:
Based on a story by Emily Brontë
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Dustyvet Sat, May 16, 2009 12:01:18am |
re: #132 Sharmuta
I didn't see Dustyvet already posted the answers. That's what I get for not reading the entire post.
:)....
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FurryOldGuyJeans Sat, May 16, 2009 12:01:37am |
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Alberta Oil Peon Sat, May 16, 2009 12:01:48am |
re: #137 Erik The Red
Happy Birthday to me. Happy Birthday to me. Happy Birthday to Erik. Happy Birthday to me.
Free drinks are over...............................> on the bar. Please help yourselves. :)
Happy birthday to you, Erik. May there be many more!
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Sharmuta Sat, May 16, 2009 12:02:04am |
Syrah- I had a feeling you'd like that read from Killgore.
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gmsc Sat, May 16, 2009 12:02:22am |
re: #131 Abu Al-Poopypants
Finally! A Marx brothers fan!
The rest of you – go watch The Cocoanuts NOW!
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Erik The Red Sat, May 16, 2009 12:02:38am |
re: #133 gmsc
Today in History, May 16th:
[Video]Highlights of this day in history: President Andrew Johnson survives a key vote at his Senate trial after his impeachment; First Oscars are presented; Actor Henry Fonda born; Singer Sammy Davis, Jr. and Muppets creator Jim Henson die.
Other notable May 16th events include:
1568 – Mary Queen of Scots flees to England.
1836 – Edgar Allan Poe marries his 13-year-old cousin Virginia.
1843 – The first major wagon train heading for the Pacific Northwest sets out on the Oregon Trail with one thousand pioneers from Elm Grove, Missouri.
1866 – The U.S. Congress eliminates the half dime coin and replaces it with the five cent piece, or nickel.
1920 – In Rome, Pope Benedict XV canonizes Joan of Arc as a saint.
1948 – Chaim Weizmann is elected the first President of Israel.
1951 – The first regularly scheduled transatlantic flights begin between John F Kennedy International Airport in New York City and Heathrow Airport in London, operated by El Al Israel Airlines.
1965 – The Campbell Soup Company introduces SpaghettiOs under its Franco-American brand.
1966 – The Communist Party of China issues the 'May 16 Notice', marking the beginning of the Cultural Revolution.
1988 – A report by United States' Surgeon General C. Everett Koop states that the addictive properties of nicotine are similar to those of heroin and cocaine.
19XX – Erik the Red is unleashed on an unsuspecting world. (My money is on the birth year being 1965 – Erik and SpaghettiOs just seem to go together.)
Happy Birthday, Erik!
Thanks gmsc for remembering. Not to far off. 1968.
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FurryOldGuyJeans Sat, May 16, 2009 12:03:47am |
re: #118 Dustyvet
There is one word in English that changes its pronunciation because of capitalization.
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gmsc Sat, May 16, 2009 12:04:17am |
re: #133 gmsc
Today in History, May 16th:
1965 – The Campbell Soup Company introduces SpaghettiOs under its Franco-American brand.
19XX – Erik the Red is unleashed on an unsuspecting world. (My money is on the birth year being 1965 – Erik and SpaghettiOs just seem to go together.)
Happy Birthday, Erik!
re: #137 Erik The Red
Happy Birthday to me. Happy Birthday to me. Happy Birthday to Erik. Happy Birthday to me.
Free drinks are over...............................> on the bar. Please help yourselves. :)
Cool! I even beat Erik to his own birthday wishes!
Happy birthday again, Erik!
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Dustyvet Sat, May 16, 2009 12:05:05am |
re: #145 Erik The Red
Thanks gmsc for remembering. Not to far off. 1968.
ON THIS SITE IN 1876...NOTHING HAPPEND...:)
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Syrah Sat, May 16, 2009 12:05:11am |
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pat Sat, May 16, 2009 12:05:26am |
The torture and murder of those kids in TJ really upsets me.
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Catttt Sat, May 16, 2009 12:06:25am |
re: #143 gmsc
Finally! A Marx brothers fan!
The rest of you – go watch The Cocoanuts NOW!
I used to take the crosstown bus in New Orleans to go see their movies. Over and over. This was obviously pre-video.
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gmsc Sat, May 16, 2009 12:07:03am |
re: #146 FurryOldGuyJeans
There is one word in English that changes its pronunciation because of capitalization.
Only one?
polish?
job?
august?
nice?
ranier?
said?
degas?
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Silvergirl Sat, May 16, 2009 12:08:37am |
re: #137 Erik The Red
Happy Birthday to me. Happy Birthday to me. Happy Birthday to Erik. Happy Birthday to me.
Free drinks are over...............................> on the bar. Please help yourselves. :)
Cheers, Erik. I've plugged in the crock pot full of Spaghettios. It's on the bar with the free drinks. Happy Birthday!
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gmsc Sat, May 16, 2009 12:09:34am |
My favorite quote from May 15th:
"Wait, McDonald's is only 16 days older than I am?!?"
-My mom
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Silvergirl Sat, May 16, 2009 12:09:44am |
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FurryOldGuyJeans Sat, May 16, 2009 12:09:46am |
re: #154 gmsc
Only one?
polish?
job?
august?
nice?
ranier?
said?
degas?
You sure didn't fall for my "brain teaser". ;)
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redc1c4 Sat, May 16, 2009 12:10:54am |
re: #137 Erik The Red
Happy Birthday to me. Happy Birthday to me. Happy Birthday to Erik. Happy Birthday to me.
Free drinks are over...............................> on the bar. Please help yourselves. :)
already all gone......
/and you knew i'd be thirsty.
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Alberta Oil Peon Sat, May 16, 2009 12:12:12am |
re: #143 gmsc
Finally! A Marx brothers fan!
The rest of you – go watch The Cocoanuts NOW!
Viaduct?
Growing up in Vancouver, B.C., it used to be an adventure to drive over the Georgia Viaduct with my parents. And one of the sights to be seen from that structure was a large gasometer, a storage vessel for town gas.
Both the gasometer and the old Georgia Viaduct are now long gone, the former having been rendered redundant by the advent of natural gas pipelines, and the latter's old steel structure being replaced by a modern concrete elevated roadway.
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redc1c4 Sat, May 16, 2009 12:12:52am |
re: #147 Iron Fist
I just ran across this. I like it:
That sums it up quite well.
old, but good, and needs to be read again.
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zombie Sat, May 16, 2009 12:12:58am |
re: #138 Throbert McGee
It just occurred to me that in the Mega Shark vs. Giant Octopus movie...
[Video]...they should've had Lorenzo Lamas play a character named "Heathcliff" while Debbie Gibson played "Catherine," so that in the trailers, posters, and other promos they could say:
That film definitely has next year's Best Picture Oscar wrapped up. Looks like a masterpiece!
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Catttt Sat, May 16, 2009 12:13:03am |
One more post.
I had a pastrami sandwich for lunch. The cats were on the patio, with the door open. I saved the Siamese a piece, because he really likes it. I had taken one bite when he showed up at my feet, expectantly. He could smell the pastrami from outside, obviously. I expect he would kill for pastrami.
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gmsc Sat, May 16, 2009 12:14:07am |
re: #166 Catttt
One more post.
I had a pastrami sandwich for lunch. The cats were on the patio, with the door open. I saved the Siamese a piece, because he really likes it. I had taken one bite when he showed up at my feet, expectantly. He could smell the pastrami from outside, obviously. I expect he would kill for pastrami.
I can relate!
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redc1c4 Sat, May 16, 2009 12:14:39am |
re: #158 gmsc
My favorite quote from May 15th:
"Wait, McDonald's is only 16 days older than I am?!?"
-My mom
you still live with your mom?
NTTIAWWT.......
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Van Helsing Sat, May 16, 2009 12:15:37am |
re: #163 Alberta Oil Peon
Viaduct?
Growing up in Vancouver, B.C., it used to be an adventure to drive over the Georgia Viaduct with my parents. And one of the sights to be seen from that structure was a large gasometer, a storage vessel for town gas.
Both the gasometer and the old Georgia Viaduct are now long gone, the former having been rendered redundant by the advent of natural gas pipelines, and the latter's old steel structure being replaced by a modern concrete elevated roadway.
Gastown section of Vancouver BC?
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Throbert McGee Sat, May 16, 2009 12:15:42am |
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redc1c4 Sat, May 16, 2009 12:15:43am |
re: #166 Catttt
One more post.
I had a pastrami sandwich for lunch. The cats were on the patio, with the door open. I saved the Siamese a piece, because he really likes it. I had taken one bite when he showed up at my feet, expectantly. He could smell the pastrami from outside, obviously. I expect he would kill for pastrami.
well, yes: he's Siamese.
/lurve them beasts
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FurryOldGuyJeans Sat, May 16, 2009 12:15:45am |
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redc1c4 Sat, May 16, 2009 12:17:07am |
re: #170 Throbert McGee
Well, at least Sharmuta got it.
from you?
now *there* is a pinch hit......
/white smoke
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Van Helsing Sat, May 16, 2009 12:17:26am |
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gmsc Sat, May 16, 2009 12:17:27am |
re: #166 Catttt
One more post.
I had a pastrami sandwich for lunch. The cats were on the patio, with the door open. I saved the Siamese a piece, because he really likes it. I had taken one bite when he showed up at my feet, expectantly. He could smell the pastrami from outside, obviously. I expect he would kill for pastrami.
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Fenway_Nation Sat, May 16, 2009 12:17:28am |
re: #133 gmsc
1965 – The Campbell Soup Company introduces SpaghettiOs under its Franco-American brand.
From season two of the Venture Brothers, Fallen Arches:
Jefferson Twilight: On three, we give him the old Rochambeau.
The Alchemist: Rock-paper-scissors?
Dr. Orpheus: What does a general from the American Revolution have to do with this ?
Jefferson Twilight: American Revolution? “Rochambeau” sounds, sounds French to me.
Dr. Orpheus: Well, yes, the Franco-American Forces.
Jefferson Twilight: They fought with Spaghetti-Os and meatballs?
The Alchemist: Why would a company called Franco-American make Italian food?
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Abu Al-Poopypants Sat, May 16, 2009 12:18:00am |
So I'm listening to this really nice live bootleg of Bill Laswell's Material just now and in the middle of one of the tracks an audio collage of edited-together GWB speeches comes on: "The American flag stands for corporate scandals, recession, stock market declines, blackmail, burning with cautering irons, mutilation with electric drills, cutting out tongues, terror, mass murder and war." F*CK HIM; he's not getting any more of my money.
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Erik The Red Sat, May 16, 2009 12:18:06am |
Thanks Lizards for the warm birthday wishes. You guys are great.
Posting will be light this weekend. We have friends from out of town spending the weekend with us. Lots of drinking to be done :)
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Alberta Oil Peon Sat, May 16, 2009 12:18:58am |
re: #169 Van Helsing
Gastown section of Vancouver BC?
Not really. Closer to Yaletown, actually. The Georgia Viaduct passed over the uppermost end of the section of inner harbor known as False Creek, and the gasometer stood in the industrial area along the False Creek shoreline.
Gastown was (is) closer to the Burrard Inlet waterfront.
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Throbert McGee Sat, May 16, 2009 12:19:55am |
re: #165 zombie
That film definitely has next year's Best Picture Oscar wrapped up. Looks like a masterpiece!
The beauty part is that they're both treyf, so Jewish moviegoers needn't feel conflicted about who to root for.
(But speaking as a goy, I think that octopus is MUCH tastier than shark.)
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Throbert McGee Sat, May 16, 2009 12:20:35am |
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FurryOldGuyJeans Sat, May 16, 2009 12:20:50am |
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gmsc Sat, May 16, 2009 12:21:18am |
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Van Helsing Sat, May 16, 2009 12:21:31am |
re: #180 Alberta Oil Peon
Haven't been near there in decades. Gastown was where we went to drink when the bars in Bellingham threw us out.
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Alberta Oil Peon Sat, May 16, 2009 12:22:24am |
re: #186 Van Helsing
Haven't been near there in decades. Gastown was where we went to drink when the bars in Bellingham threw us out.
Like the Iron Bull?
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Syrah Sat, May 16, 2009 12:22:41am |
re: #100 Syrah
How about this for an open thread controversial topic.
Stephen Hawking, Richard Feynman and Carl Sagan playing Jeopardy.
Who would win?
(At the moment, only Hawking is still with with us, but if they were all still living . . . )
I am going to put my money on Feynman.
Of the three, I think he may have had more varied life experiences, from teaching in Brazil (where he was also part of a Samba club) to cracking safes, to helping build things that go boom. Sagan might give him a run for it since he was at least able to make it on TV and wright readable novels. But then again, if all the questions were about physics, maybe only Hawking would be able to stay focused on the questions.
With that, I will bid you all a goodnight.
Saturday begins my work week, before sunrise no less.
At least the weather will be good.
Play nice.
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haakondahl Sat, May 16, 2009 12:22:59am |
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haakondahl Sat, May 16, 2009 12:25:14am |
re: #100 Syrah
How about this for an open thread controversial topic.
Stephen Hawking, Richard Feynman and Carl Sagan playing Jeopardy.
Who would win?
(At the moment, only Hawking is still with with us, but if they were all still living . . . )
Feynman would win, of course. Hawking would figure out how he did it, and Sagan would explain it all to us.
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FurryOldGuyJeans Sat, May 16, 2009 12:25:45am |
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Van Helsing Sat, May 16, 2009 12:26:28am |
re: #187 Alberta Oil Peon
Like the Iron Bull?
Doesn't ring a bell. Timeframe was mid-seventies. did I mention drinking?
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Fenway_Nation Sat, May 16, 2009 12:28:10am |
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Alberta Oil Peon Sat, May 16, 2009 12:28:33am |
re: #197 Van Helsing
Doesn't ring a bell. Timeframe was mid-seventies. did I mention drinking?
The Iron Bull was a roadhouse in or very near Bellingham that operated during that period. I went there once, but details are hazy.
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Silvergirl Sat, May 16, 2009 12:28:44am |
re: #197 Van Helsing
Doesn't ring a bell. Timeframe was mid-seventies. did I mention drinking?
Hey, aren't you the one who left without his Spaghettios? Here's a styro takeout for you.
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Sharmuta Sat, May 16, 2009 12:29:06am |
My question of the night is- why is european paper a different size?
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Alberta Oil Peon Sat, May 16, 2009 12:30:11am |
re: #202 Sharmuta
My question of the night is- why is european paper a different size?
Because the bathrooms are smaller, and everything else is sized to proportion.
Now ask me a hard question.
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Erik The Red Sat, May 16, 2009 12:31:02am |
Went to my first Muslim birthday party last week..
The musical chairs was a bit slow, but fuck me, pass the parcel was quick!
When I was a kid I used to pray every night for a new bike.
Then I realised that the Lord doesn't work that way, so I stole one and asked him to forgive me
I was walking down the road when I saw an Afghan bloke standing on a fifth floor balcony shaking a carpet.
I shouted up to him, "What's up Abdul, won't it fucking start?"
I parked in a disabled space today and a traffic warden shouted,
"Oi, what's your disability?"
I said, "Tourettes! Now fuck off.
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Silvergirl Sat, May 16, 2009 12:32:53am |
re: #198 gmsc
Is this better?
Infinitely! That is one well made toon. They captured the Siamese personality to perfection.
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gmsc Sat, May 16, 2009 12:33:36am |
re: #202 Sharmuta
My question of the night is- why is european paper a different size?
So they can claim American-sized paper is beneath them.
Seriously – Cecil Adams and The Straight Dope team are here to answer your question!
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Sharmuta Sat, May 16, 2009 12:34:13am |
re: #203 Alberta Oil Peon
Their paper is slightly longer and slightly slimmer than New World paper.
I just wonder why.
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redc1c4 Sat, May 16, 2009 12:34:58am |
re: #208 Sharmuta
Their paper is slightly longer and slightly slimmer than New World paper.
I just wonder why.
because they're fucked up?
applying the razor
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FurryOldGuyJeans Sat, May 16, 2009 12:36:06am |
re: #208 Sharmuta
Their paper is slightly longer and slightly slimmer than New World paper.
I just wonder why.
Maybe part of the reason is the rag content.
I really don't have a clue, I didn't even stay at a Holiday Inn last night.
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Sharmuta Sat, May 16, 2009 12:36:46am |
re: #207 gmsc
So they can claim American-sized paper is beneath them.
Seriously – Cecil Adams and The Straight Dope team are here to answer your question!
Interesting. Thanks, Hon.
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Silvergirl Sat, May 16, 2009 12:37:51am |
re: #207 gmsc
So they can claim American-sized paper is beneath them.
Seriously – Cecil Adams and The Straight Dope team are here to answer your question!
So it involves 'Enery the 8th, metric and Germans.
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FurryOldGuyJeans Sat, May 16, 2009 12:38:38am |
re: #208 Sharmuta
Their paper is slightly longer and slightly slimmer than New World paper.
I just wonder why.
Wiki has something to make your eyes glaze over regarding paper sizes.
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haakondahl Sat, May 16, 2009 12:39:09am |
re: #208 Sharmuta
Their paper is slightly longer and slightly slimmer than New World paper.
I just wonder why.
It's as close as they can get using their puny centimeters.
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Alberta Oil Peon Sat, May 16, 2009 12:39:36am |
re: #211 Sharmuta
Interesting. Thanks, Hon.
Well, if Walter were here tonight, he'd probably tell us that Maisey the parrot says the Denver Post is beneath her.
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Silvergirl Sat, May 16, 2009 12:42:19am |
re: #214 FurryOldGuyJeans
Wiki has something to make your eyes glaze over regarding paper sizes.
They're already glazing of their own accord.
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Sharmuta Sat, May 16, 2009 12:42:24am |
We now all know more about paper sizes then we ever hoped we know.
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FurryOldGuyJeans Sat, May 16, 2009 12:42:59am |
re: #218 Silvergirl
They're already glazing of their own accord.
I have a nice soft shoulder you can rest your weary head on. ;)
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redc1c4 Sat, May 16, 2009 12:43:29am |
re: #216 Alberta Oil Peon
Well, if Walter were here tonight, he'd probably tell us that Maisey the parrot says the Denver Post is beneath her.
yer shitting me, right?
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Alberta Oil Peon Sat, May 16, 2009 12:43:55am |
re: #219 Sharmuta
We now all know more about paper sizes then we ever hoped we know.
You're preaching to the quire.
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redc1c4 Sat, May 16, 2009 12:44:28am |
re: #220 FurryOldGuyJeans
I have a nice soft shoulder you can rest your weary head on. ;)
she's gonna be *really* mad when you glaze her eyes.....
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haakondahl Sat, May 16, 2009 12:45:33am |
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Silvergirl Sat, May 16, 2009 12:45:39am |
re: #220 FurryOldGuyJeans
I have a nice soft shoulder you can rest your weary head on. ;)
Is this what they teach you in those Utah schools?
No wait, that was Alex Trebek's comeback. I'm not thinking fast. Glazed brain that goes with the eyes.
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Spare O'Lake Sat, May 16, 2009 12:45:55am |
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redc1c4 Sat, May 16, 2009 12:46:23am |
re: #229 Silvergirl
Is this what they teach you in those Utah schools?
No wait, that was Alex Trebek's comeback. I'm not thinking fast. Glazed brain that goes with the eyes.
it'll cum to you shortly....
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gmsc Sat, May 16, 2009 12:46:42am |
re: #230 Spare O'Lake
Not much, what snew with you?
:)
Well, I just bought my first henway yesterday!
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Silvergirl Sat, May 16, 2009 12:47:06am |
No matter how much you push the envelope, it'll still be stationery.
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redc1c4 Sat, May 16, 2009 12:47:47am |
re: #230 Spare O'Lake
Not much, what snew with you?
sinew insist on using the same word over and over, i'll have to penalize you for being tendinitis.
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redc1c4 Sat, May 16, 2009 12:48:29am |
re: #232 gmsc
:)
Well, I just bought my first henway yesterday!
what's a henway?
/oldest one in the book
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Spare O'Lake Sat, May 16, 2009 12:48:30am |
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Silvergirl Sat, May 16, 2009 12:49:48am |
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haakondahl Sat, May 16, 2009 12:49:51am |
re: #234 redc1c4
sinew insist on using the same word over and over, i'll have to penalize you for being tendinitis.
As long as there's only one "i" in "penalize".
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gmsc Sat, May 16, 2009 12:51:18am |
Today's word, boys and girls is paronomasia.
Proper usage: LGF suffer from frequent bouts of paronomasia.
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Spare O'Lake Sat, May 16, 2009 12:54:04am |
re: #234 redc1c4
sinew insist on using the same word over and over, i'll have to penalize you for being tendinitis.
May I offer you some sapnin?
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Erik The Red Sat, May 16, 2009 12:56:43am |
˙pɐǝɥ ʎɯ ɹǝʌo uı ɯɐ ı ƃuıuund ʇɹɐʇs spɹɐzıl uǝɥʍ
Later. Stay scaly.
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gmsc Sat, May 16, 2009 12:57:56am |
re: #245 Spare O'Lake
May I offer you some sapnin?
Don't take it!
I have it on good authority that Spare O'Lake has female relatives that are known thespians, and other relatives that are practicing homo sapiens!
Spare O'Lake is also known to masticate on a regular basis, and has even openly matriculated on a campus of impressionable young men and women!
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Alberta Oil Peon Sat, May 16, 2009 12:58:12am |
re: #246 Erik The Red
˙pɐǝɥ ʎɯ ɹǝʌo uı ɯɐ ı ƃuıuund ʇɹɐʇs spɹɐzıl uǝɥʍ
Later. Stay scaly.
You must have typed this with the southern hemisphere of your brain, eh?
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gmsc Sat, May 16, 2009 12:58:16am |
re: #246 Erik The Red
˙pɐǝɥ ʎɯ ɹǝʌo uı ɯɐ ı ƃuıuund ʇɹɐʇs spɹɐzıl uǝɥʍ
Later. Stay scaly.
G'nite – enjoy your birthday weekend!
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Alberta Oil Peon Sat, May 16, 2009 1:05:37am |
Well, it's getting late, and I ought to be getting horizontal. Good night, all. Stay safe.
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gmsc Sat, May 16, 2009 1:05:56am |
Change!... Obama's Defense Cuts Cost St. Louis 30,000 Jobs
How's this for an economic stimulus?
Obama's defense cuts will cost St. Louis 30,000 local jobs.Obama's planned defense budget cutbacks will slow production of locally-built C-17 cargo planes and will eliminate the jobs of the employees who make them. KSDK has video.
KSDK reported:
Thousands of jobs could be in jeopardy at St. Louis' second largest employer: Boeing.
The aerospace company announced the government's planned defense budget cutbacks will slow production of two locally-built planes and eliminate the jobs of the employees who make them. Michael Moran has helped build hundreds, if not thousands, of C-17 cargo planes.
...The bottom line is Boeing needs to get through to President Obama, Congress and Secretary Gates. If not, they stand to lose more than 5,000 jobs at Boeing in St. Louis, and 30,000 total local jobs, including suppliers.
Boeing executives are reaching out to anyone who will listen. They're trying to get Congress to put the planes back in the budget.
It's just a shame Boeing is not a subsidiary of ACORN.
Then they would be hiring.Related... The Spectator reported today, "If somebody were deliberately trying to undermine the very fabric of these United States... he would do just about everything Barack Obama already has begun to do as president."
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gmsc Sat, May 16, 2009 1:06:29am |
re: #251 Alberta Oil Peon
Well, it's getting late, and I ought to be getting horizontal. Good night, all. Stay safe.
G'Nite, AOP!
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Fenway_Nation Sat, May 16, 2009 1:07:01am |
I'm still here- it's just that I got nothing witty or worthwhile to contribute.
Doesn't stop me 99% of the time.
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Alberta Oil Peon Sat, May 16, 2009 1:07:53am |
re: #253 gmsc
G'Nite, AOP!
Nite, GMSC. Have a great weekend. I have another day or two at work here, then I'm off for home.
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gmsc Sat, May 16, 2009 1:08:03am |
re: #254 Fenway_Nation
I'm still here- it's just that I got nothing witty or worthwhile to contribute.
Doesn't stop me 99% of the time.
Well, that doesn't stop you 9 . . . oh, never mind.
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Sharmuta Sat, May 16, 2009 1:08:54am |
re: #250 gmsc
Sorry- I was off reading another blog. Don't tell on me.
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Spare O'Lake Sat, May 16, 2009 1:09:51am |
re: #247 gmsc
Don't take it!
I have it on good authority that Spare O'Lake has female relatives that are known thespians, and other relatives that are practicing homo sapiens!
Spare O'Lake is also known to masticate on a regular basis, and has even openly matriculated on a campus of impressionable young men and women!
You must be referring to my inlaws.
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pink freud Sat, May 16, 2009 1:10:09am |
re: #86 pat
LOL. No I mean she may be mentally disturbed. For real. Megalomania is a sickness. Once thought to be a a royal prerogative, it is in fact a mental disease. I don't think this woman has had a follow up question in years. Proclamations are her specialty. It has taken Obama all of a month to enter this realm, BTW.
Of course Pink Freud knows of what I opine. That is her nic/specialty after all. :)
Wouldn't you know it! I run off to do some middle-of-the-night housecleaning and someone misses me! :-)
I do concur, Pat ...wholeheartedly.
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Fenway_Nation Sat, May 16, 2009 1:10:12am |
re: #252 gmsc
The Spectator reported today, "If somebody were deliberately trying to undermine the very fabric of these United States... he would do just about everything Barack Obama already has begun to do as president."
Kinda telling that Hugo Chavez and Robert Mugabe were among the first to welcome the 'new direction and tone coming from Washington'...
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redc1c4 Sat, May 16, 2009 1:11:45am |
re: #242 haakondahl
As long as there's only one "i" in "penalize".
how many are there in "pedantic"?
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BatGuano Sat, May 16, 2009 1:19:28am |
re: #260 Fenway_Nation
Good morning everyone. Fenway, are you saying they recognize their own?
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Silvergirl Sat, May 16, 2009 1:21:23am |
re: #250 gmsc
Hello?
HELLO? . . . hello? . . . hello? . . . hello?
What? Huh? I just slid off someone's shoulder and hit the keyboard.
I have to get to bed pronto!
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gmsc Sat, May 16, 2009 1:22:02am |
re: #266 Silvergirl
What? Huh? I just slid off someone's shoulder and hit the keyboard.
I have to get to bed pronto!
Sleep well, oh female of the silver persuasion.
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redc1c4 Sat, May 16, 2009 1:22:03am |
re: #266 Silvergirl
What? Huh? I just slid off someone's shoulder and hit the keyboard.
I have to get to bed pronto!
lucky them.
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Spare O'Lake Sat, May 16, 2009 1:23:54am |
re: #260 Fenway_Nation
Kinda telling that Hugo Chavez and Robert Mugabe were among the first to welcome the 'new direction and tone coming from Washington'...
Hugo will soon feel privileged to sit at the feet of the true master of nationalization.
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pink freud Sat, May 16, 2009 1:27:49am |
Goodmorning gmsc, sharm, fenway, spareolake, batguano ....and anyone I may have missed!
Something about doing the laundry and running the dishwasher in the middle of the night that I really like. I stop short at mopping the floors, though.
Oh, and the squirrels' breakfast is out.
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redc1c4 Sat, May 16, 2009 1:28:30am |
re: #271 pink freud
Goodmorning gmsc, sharm, fenway, spareolake, batguano ....and anyone I may have missed!
Something about doing the laundry and running the dishwasher in the middle of the night that I really like. I stop short at mopping the floors, though.
Oh, and the squirrels' breakfast is out.
chopped liver here.....
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gmsc Sat, May 16, 2009 1:29:38am |
The Dems play baseball:
Announcer: "And Pelosi hits the ball to deep left . . . as the balls fly, team captain 0bama signals to nationalize the outfield . . . "
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Sharmuta Sat, May 16, 2009 1:29:54am |
Good morning, Pink. It's a good thing you're busy. Littleoldlady will be here soon, and we'll need to look like we've been doing something. ;)
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gmsc Sat, May 16, 2009 1:29:54am |
re: #271 pink freud
Goodmorning gmsc, sharm, fenway, spareolake, batguano ....and anyone I may have missed!
Something about doing the laundry and running the dishwasher in the middle of the night that I really like. I stop short at mopping the floors, though.
Oh, and the squirrels' breakfast is out.
Good morning!
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Spare O'Lake Sat, May 16, 2009 1:31:19am |
re: #271 pink freud
Goodmorning gmsc, sharm, fenway, spareolake, batguano ....and anyone I may have missed!
Something about doing the laundry and running the dishwasher in the middle of the night that I really like. I stop short at mopping the floors, though.
Oh, and the squirrels' breakfast is out.
Until you made that mopping comment you were definitely hired.
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pink freud Sat, May 16, 2009 1:31:22am |
re: #277 Sharmuta
Good morning, Pink. It's a good thing you're busy. Littleoldlady will be here soon, and we'll need to look like we've been doing something. ;)
Haha! Good morning, sharm! Yes, she is such a slave driver, I have heard ....
I've been missing her. Damn semester!
;-)
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redc1c4 Sat, May 16, 2009 1:33:48am |
re: #276 pink freud
How's the rat killin'?
the willy little shits are being difficult..... it's almost like the adapt to the pressures on them.
/ %-)
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pink freud Sat, May 16, 2009 1:33:50am |
re: #279 Spare O'Lake
I've got those stone square floors nearly throughout and I just love the way they feel under my bare feet when they are squeaky clean ...which they aren't because I have been working like a fiend in my yard. Tomorrow I will wash them well, I've just had enough for tonight. It's LATE!
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redc1c4 Sat, May 16, 2009 1:34:52am |
re: #277 Sharmuta
Good morning, Pink. It's a good thing you're busy. Littleoldlady will be here soon, and we'll need to look like we've been doing something. ;)
i'm drinking steadily.... doesn't that count for something?
/besides a BAC
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pink freud Sat, May 16, 2009 1:35:27am |
Ahum ..... one more 4.0 semester under my belt, folks. :-)
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redc1c4 Sat, May 16, 2009 1:35:47am |
re: #284 pink freud
You mean they ...evolve!?
naw: that can't be it.... i'm guessing it's an intelligent design.
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pink freud Sat, May 16, 2009 1:36:32am |
re: #287 redc1c4
naw: that can't be it.... i'm guessing it's an intelligent design.
Nope, I'm not getting drug into *that* conversation!
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redc1c4 Sat, May 16, 2009 1:37:27am |
re: #286 pink freud
Ahum ..... one more 4.0 semester under my belt, folks. :-)
well, this semester, i have to A's, a W and whatever i get in the pointless law class.....
next semester is pass/fail post graduate credits.
after that i can think about getting my bachelors.
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gmsc Sat, May 16, 2009 1:37:50am |
Obama's Vision Deficit
After 100 days, the new president has revealed himself as an effective salesman of exhausted ideas.
This article is just a fountain of great quotes:
President Barack Obama is about as visionary as the guy who invented Dippin' Dots, Ice Cream of the Future.
he's moving full speed ahead toward policy prescriptions that already had less fizz than a case of Billy Beer back when Jimmy Carter was urging us all to wear sweaters and turn down our thermostats. Instead of thinking outside the box, Obama is nailing it shut from the inside.
our chief visionary officer is talking about a one-size-fits-all solution that will surely bomb even bigger than NBC's Supertrain.
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Fenway_Nation Sat, May 16, 2009 1:37:56am |
re: #270 Spare O'Lake
Rommel Chavez... you magnificent bastard, *I read your book*!
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littleoldlady Sat, May 16, 2009 1:39:29am |
Sharmuta,
I'm not worried about pink, since I've been sending her my laundry and it's been coming back in tip top condition.
Sooooo, what have you been doing, Sharmuta?
;-)
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pink freud Sat, May 16, 2009 1:41:09am |
re: #289 redc1c4
well, this semester, i have to A's, a W and whatever i get in the pointless law class.....
next semester is pass/fail post graduate credits.
after that i can think about getting my bachelors.
I think it's cool that they admitted you into that grad class w/o your bachelors (paralegal, was it? ...I can't remember now.)
Pass/fail ....sigh ....I've no such luck, dammit. I could have used that on those godawful statistics courses I had to take. I'm tickled they are all behind me, but I hate the B's. (Shhh! Don't tell littleoldlady!)
Congrats on your high scores. And for plugging away at it. And for suffering the assholes .....
(I know of which I speak.)
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Sharmuta Sat, May 16, 2009 1:41:43am |
re: #293 littleoldlady
Oh- I've been reading up on a few things here and there and missing you.
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pink freud Sat, May 16, 2009 1:42:34am |
Goodmorning, LittleoldLADY! Goodmorning!
:-)
:-)
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littleoldlady Sat, May 16, 2009 1:45:41am |
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pink freud Sat, May 16, 2009 1:46:00am |
re: #301 Sharmuta
Goodgrief, littleoldlady! Your reputation seems to have suffered since last I was here this late! You been crackin' the whip or sumpin?
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redc1c4 Sat, May 16, 2009 1:46:41am |
re: #295 pink freud
I think it's cool that they admitted you into that grad class w/o your bachelors (paralegal, was it? ...I can't remember now.)
Pass/fail ....sigh ....I've no such luck, dammit. I could have used that on those godawful statistics courses I had to take. I'm tickled they are all behind me, but I hate the B's. (Shhh! Don't tell littleoldlady!)
Congrats on your high scores. And for plugging away at it. And for suffering the assholes .....
(I know of which I speak.)
you are too kind..... i haven't done anything.
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littleoldlady Sat, May 16, 2009 1:47:42am |
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pink freud Sat, May 16, 2009 1:48:24am |
re: #306 littleoldlady
pink! pink! pink! :-) :-) :-)
Cutie pie. Sugar buns. I have missed you! :-)
New avatar? Is that chocolate? Hmm ...Sharm has been influencing you, I see ....
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pink freud Sat, May 16, 2009 1:49:20am |
re: #305 redc1c4
you are too kind..... i haven't done anything.
Listen here, old man ...I am about your age and I am doing it, so I KNOW how tough it is ....
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littleoldlady Sat, May 16, 2009 1:49:54am |
Oh yeah, sure. I've been eating chocolate since Sharmuta was just a gleam in her daddy's eye.
/like I need INFLUENCE
//sheesh!
;-)
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pink freud Sat, May 16, 2009 1:50:58am |
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Sharmuta Sat, May 16, 2009 1:51:28am |
littleoldlady commands respect. She is standing up, after all.
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pink freud Sat, May 16, 2009 1:53:36am |
Is there anyone here that thinks as I do that we will see Pelosi announce her resignation?
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Sharmuta Sat, May 16, 2009 1:54:21am |
re: #314 pink freud
Is there anyone here that thinks as I do that we will see Pelosi announce her resignation?
The thought hadn't even crossed my mind.
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gmsc Sat, May 16, 2009 1:55:41am |
re: #314 pink freud
Is there anyone here that thinks as I do that we will see Pelosi announce her resignation?
Hoping for? Yes.
Expect to actually see happen? No.
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littleoldlady Sat, May 16, 2009 1:55:49am |
pink,
You always make all A's!
/I'd be disappointed if you didn't.
//schmarty pants! ;-)
The kid is home. Made it through the semester okay.
And I am the heck, thanks for asking. ;-)
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pink freud Sat, May 16, 2009 1:56:43am |
re: #316 Sharmuta
The thought hadn't even crossed my mind.
There are some discernible cracks in her facade. That's reason number one.
She may become too much of a liability for 0bama. He may insist. That's reason number two.
/just my two cents
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BatGuano Sat, May 16, 2009 1:57:14am |
re: #314 pink freud
It would take pressure from above for that to happen and even then she would resist. In short, no.
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pink freud Sat, May 16, 2009 1:57:22am |
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Fenway_Nation Sat, May 16, 2009 1:57:37am |
re: #314 pink freud
Not until after a whole lotta wagon-circling by the Dems.
I mean, I'm pretty sure she wasn't the only Dem who knew about this.....just the highest-ranking one at present.
It's entirely possible that Holder drops this and the Justice Dept. makes this a non-issue upon seeing how many Dems knew what they did.
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redc1c4 Sat, May 16, 2009 1:57:40am |
re: #309 pink freud
Listen here, old man ...I am about your age and I am doing it, so I KNOW how tough it is ....
then maybe i should be at your school or verse visa.....
antrho 101 and eng comp 028 were a snooze. law 01 is a joke, and math 115 kicked my ass. 3 classes i barely had to show up for, and one it didn't matter what i tried t do.
you got all A's....
is there any other part you want to rub in, or will that be enough therapy for now?
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littleoldlady Sat, May 16, 2009 1:57:51am |
re: #313 Sharmuta
littleoldlady commands respect. She is standing up, after all.
Which makes me about the same height as everyone who's sitting down! ;-)
/Equality! Yeah!
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pink freud Sat, May 16, 2009 1:59:29am |
re: #323 Fenway_Nation
I have a feeling she is about to go under the bus. Just have to wait and see. However, I think we've probably heard the last of the 'truth commission'.
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littleoldlady Sat, May 16, 2009 2:00:13am |
Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™
Fruitcup is on the buffet ----------------->
Help yourselves!
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pink freud Sat, May 16, 2009 2:00:45am |
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littleoldlady Sat, May 16, 2009 2:01:44am |
re: #326 pink freud
You've got to give her credit for hubris, at least. Thinking she can take on the CIA and win.
/either that, or mind-numbing stupidity...
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BatGuano Sat, May 16, 2009 2:01:49am |
re: #327 littleoldlady
Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™
Fruitcup is on the buffet ----------------->
Help yourselves!
Thank you littleoldlady, I missed lunch.
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Fenway_Nation Sat, May 16, 2009 2:02:01am |
re: #326 pink freud
I have a feeling she is about to go under the bus. Just have to wait and see. However, I think we've probably heard the last of the 'truth commission'.
Huh.....must've been more 'truth' than they bargained for.
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UncleRancher Sat, May 16, 2009 2:02:20am |
re: #327 littleoldlady
Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™
Fruitcup is on the buffet ----------------->
Help yourselves!
Thanks again lol! *yum*
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gmsc Sat, May 16, 2009 2:02:21am |
re: #325 littleoldlady
Which makes me about the same height as everyone who's sitting down! ;-)
/Equality! Yeah!
Memory expert Harry Lorayne once gave a presentation to a convention of the Little People of America.
His big closing memory demonstration is, after meeting everyone in the audience (usually shortly before the presentation), he asks everyone to stand up, and then sit down as he calls their names!
In this room, he asked everyone to stand up, and the tables looked unfortunately empty. The head of the association looked around, then looked at Harry and said, "You're an amazing magician, Mr. Lorayne! That's the first time anyone made an entire audience disappear!"
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littleoldlady Sat, May 16, 2009 2:02:22am |
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gmsc Sat, May 16, 2009 2:03:07am |
re: #327 littleoldlady
Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™
Fruitcup is on the buffet ----------------->
Help yourselves!
Yummy! Thanks!
(Oh, and save some in the freezer for b-day boy Erik, who is off enjoying a b-day weekend!)
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Fenway_Nation Sat, May 16, 2009 2:03:19am |
re: #329 littleoldlady
San Francisco Values.
She thought she could take on the Catholic Church and win...
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littleoldlady Sat, May 16, 2009 2:03:54am |
Sharmuta! :-)
UncleRancher! :-)
gmsc! :-)
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haakondahl Sat, May 16, 2009 2:04:55am |
re: #314 pink freud
Is there anyone here that thinks as I do that we will see Pelosi announce her resignation?
Nope.
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littleoldlady Sat, May 16, 2009 2:04:57am |
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pink freud Sat, May 16, 2009 2:05:09am |
re: #329 littleoldlady
You've got to give her credit for hubris, at least. Thinking she can take on the CIA and win.
/either that, or mind-numbing stupidity...
I believe she has fatally overestimated herself and her importance, this time.
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UncleRancher Sat, May 16, 2009 2:09:04am |
re: #329 littleoldlady
You've got to give her credit for hubris, at least. Thinking she can take on the CIA and win.
/either that, or mind-numbing stupidity...
Both.
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littleoldlady Sat, May 16, 2009 2:10:16am |
re: #342 pink freud
I believe you are right. The Catholic Church is one thing ...what are they going to do? Sic the Illuminati on her?...the CIA is altogether something else. They know where the bodies are buried.
What worries me is what the Obama folks are sliding under the radar while this "distraction" is going on.
/Never Waste a Good Crisis
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Fenway_Nation Sat, May 16, 2009 2:11:02am |
Well...that should just about do it for me. Figured I'd stay up just enough to get me some fruitcup...
Weet dreams, honcos and honquettes!
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littleoldlady Sat, May 16, 2009 2:12:05am |
'Night, Fenway! :-)
and HAPPY BIRTHDAY, ERIK!
/...wherever you are
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BatGuano Sat, May 16, 2009 2:12:29am |
re: #334 gmsc
Iread a book in the 70's by Harry Lorayne and Jerry Lucas. I didn't study it because my memory was pretty good back then and it was a lot of work.
I was lazy. :)
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Fenway_Nation Sat, May 16, 2009 2:12:29am |
re: #346 pink freud
Good night, psychoanalyst of the rose-tinted persuasion.
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gmsc Sat, May 16, 2009 2:12:43am |
re: #345 Fenway_Nation
Well...that should just about do it for me. Figured I'd stay up just enough to get me some fruitcup...
Weet dreams, honcos and honquettes!
...and Fenway is out of the park! Good night!
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littleoldlady Sat, May 16, 2009 2:13:03am |
Honquettes sounds like something that goes on a spit on the barbeque...
/or maybe I'm just hungry?
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gmsc Sat, May 16, 2009 2:13:25am |
re: #348 BatGuano
Iread a book in the 70's by Harry Lorayne and Jerry Lucas. I didn't study it because my memory was pretty good back then and it was a lot of work.
I was lazy. :)
That's the book that got me started on a life of geekery! Well, that and James Burke's documentaries.
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pink freud Sat, May 16, 2009 2:15:06am |
re: #344 littleoldlady
I believe you are right. The Catholic Church is one thing ...what are they going to do? Sic the Illuminati on her?...the CIA is altogether something else. They know where the bodies are buried.
What worries me is what the Obama folks are sliding under the radar while this "distraction" is going on.
/Never Waste a Good Crisis
It's not just her scuffle with Panetta. Knowing 0bama's hubris as we do and how he adheres to a strict authority hierarchy - with himself perched atop it all - I believe he is threatened by her and - as he has done with so many others - will use this as a legitimate excuse to rid himself of one he sees as a challenge to his power.
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BatGuano Sat, May 16, 2009 2:15:37am |
re: #352 gmsc
That's the book that got me started on a life of geekery! Well, that and James Burke's documentaries.
Oh,Lord:Connections, the Day The Universe Changed: The reason TV was invented.
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pink freud Sat, May 16, 2009 2:16:00am |
re: #351 littleoldlady
Honquettes sounds like something that goes on a spit on the barbeque...
/or maybe I'm just hungry?
I am too. I need chocolate. I blame you.
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littleoldlady Sat, May 16, 2009 2:16:29am |
re: #353 pink freud
He needed her to steamroll healthcare reform through Congress.
I would have thought he would have waited until after that...
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UncleRancher Sat, May 16, 2009 2:17:25am |
re: #356 littleoldlady
He needed her to steamroll healthcare reform through Congress.
I would have thought he would have waited until after that...
Whenever they use that word "reform", just hang onto your wallet.
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littleoldlady Sat, May 16, 2009 2:17:50am |
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pink freud Sat, May 16, 2009 2:18:24am |
re: #356 littleoldlady
He needed her to steamroll healthcare reform through Congress.
I would have thought he would have waited until after that...
You can bet they're brainstorming the whole thing ten ways from Sunday.
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UncleRancher Sat, May 16, 2009 2:18:55am |
re: #355 pink freud
I am too. I need chocolate. I blame you.
Save the world ~~ It's the only one with chocolate.
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Sharmuta Sat, May 16, 2009 2:19:06am |
Sometimes needing chocolate is not littleoldlady's fault.
At those time it's a honco-Illuminaughty conspiracy.
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pink freud Sat, May 16, 2009 2:20:27am |
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littleoldlady Sat, May 16, 2009 2:23:43am |
re: #357 UncleRancher
For some inexplicable reason, this whole thing is reminding me of the breakup of Ma Bell.
/yeah, I'm old :-/
Healthcare is the only thing I really worry about NOT being able to reverse after we get rid of Obama. I was worried about cap and trade, too, but it looks as though that one won't pass.
/...trying to get my Worry Ducks in order
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pink freud Sat, May 16, 2009 2:24:13am |
Ok folks, time for me to get some sleep. I'll make one last prediction. When the announcement comes, it will be that she is retiring due to health problems. Not a word about the CIA or waterboarding.
OffBack to dreamland.
LOL! We'll see.
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gmsc Sat, May 16, 2009 2:24:28am |
re: #367 pink freud
Ok folks, time for me to get some sleep. I'll make one last prediction. When the announcement comes, it will be that she is retiring due to health problems. Not a word about the CIA or waterboarding.
OffBack to dreamland.LOL! We'll see.
G'Nite, pink!
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gmsc Sat, May 16, 2009 2:25:19am |
re: #365 littleoldlady
For some inexplicable reason, this whole thing is reminding me of the breakup of Ma Bell.
/yeah, I'm old :-/
No, old is when you say, "For some inexplicable reason, this whole thing is reminding me of the breakup of Standard Oil."
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pink freud Sat, May 16, 2009 2:26:31am |
re: #371 littleoldlady
Ah! Landsman! ;-)
Whoa. You beat me at the dobash pic! BEAUTIFUL!
/what an image to take to bed with me ......
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littleoldlady Sat, May 16, 2009 2:26:46am |
re: #370 gmsc
No, old is when you say, "For some inexplicable reason, this whole thing is reminding me of the breakup of Standard Oil."
Or something that has to do with McDonalds... ;-)
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littleoldlady Sat, May 16, 2009 2:27:25am |
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gmsc Sat, May 16, 2009 2:28:06am |
re: #375 littleoldlady
It's the Hungarian in me.
/try "dobosh torte" next time... ;-)
Henceforth known as the "dobosh torte" law.
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UncleRancher Sat, May 16, 2009 2:28:20am |
re: #365 littleoldlady
Worry ducks. This latest incident with the torture nonsense is a biggie. *banging head against wall* If those "in charge" can be so absolutely naive over a thing like this how can they possibly be left in charge of protecting us from enemies foreign and domestic? Perhaps these are the enemies-domestic.
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pink freud Sat, May 16, 2009 2:29:34am |
re: #370 gmsc
No, old is when you say, "For some inexplicable reason, this whole thing is reminding me of the breakup of Standard Oil."
Now you're speaking my language. Good ole Huey Long.
/a chicken in every pot and every man a king
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BatGuano Sat, May 16, 2009 2:30:12am |
If you all haven't seen this; It's amazing.
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UncleRancher Sat, May 16, 2009 2:34:01am |
CURE FOR CONSTIPATION
If you are bothered by occasional or frequent constipation, look in the mirror and repeat the following phrase three times in succession when symptoms occur:
"My financial and personal well being are totally in the hands of Barack Obama, Joe Biden, Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi, Tim Geithner, Rahm Emmanual, Barney Frank, John Murtha, Chris Dodd, and Al Gore.
If that doesn't scare the s... out of you, then you are probably destined to be backed up for the rest of your life.
There is no need to thank me for this advice, I'm just doing it as a public service.
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littleoldlady Sat, May 16, 2009 2:35:38am |
tfk! :-)
WOW! I never get to see you anymore. Hope you are well!
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TheMatrix31 Sat, May 16, 2009 2:38:43am |
re: #381 UncleRancher
CURE FOR CONSTIPATION
If you are bothered by occasional or frequent constipation, look in the mirror and repeat the following phrase three times in succession when symptoms occur:
"My financial and personal well being are totally in the hands of Barack Obama, Joe Biden, Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi, Tim Geithner, Rahm Emmanual, Barney Frank, John Murtha, Chris Dodd, and Al Gore.
If that doesn't scare the s... out of you, then you are probably destined to be backed up for the rest of your life.
There is no need to thank me for this advice, I'm just doing it as a public service.
Awesome advice. We'll see how it works soon.
/too much info?
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BatGuano Sat, May 16, 2009 2:42:29am |
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Sharmuta Sat, May 16, 2009 2:45:13am |
re: #382 taxfreekiller
rain
going to get to drive to Dallas in the rain
tea party planing time
rain , to much rain, bad for the wheat this time of year,
Stay dry!
And make some "Balanced Budget Amendment NOW!" signs. Please.
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UncleRancher Sat, May 16, 2009 2:50:19am |
*nodding off*
Nite-all. It's been fun. See you all farther up the creek. /UR
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littleoldlady Sat, May 16, 2009 2:52:12am |
Goodnight, all you sleepyheads.
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littleoldlady Sat, May 16, 2009 3:01:43am |
re: #395 Sharmuta
I hate playlists. (My youtube foo stinks...) "You're still the one" was supposed to come up.
/did it?
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littleoldlady Sat, May 16, 2009 3:10:57am |
Okay, I hate to leave Sharmuta here all alone...
/although there's no one more capable on LGF
But we're supposed to be getting rain, too, and I need to do some outside stuff before everything falls apart.
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littleoldlady Sat, May 16, 2009 3:12:04am |
Music to garden by?
;-)
WOW! A Laura Nyro sound-alike! EXCELLENT! Thank you! :-)
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Sharmuta Sat, May 16, 2009 3:13:54am |
re: #401 littleoldlady
Glad you liked it- have a great day!
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littleoldlady Sat, May 16, 2009 3:16:14am |
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Throbert McGee Sat, May 16, 2009 3:21:06am |
re: #362 Sharmuta
Thank GOD the cocoa plant evolved. Brilliant work, Lord.
But because of Adam's sin, God permitted Satan to bring white chocolate into the world.
(If you freeze-frame that '80s commercial, you can see a SNAKE in the tree that the Maxfield Parrish chick is swinging in...
...and they're actually singing "N - E - S - T - HELL - E - S" -- listen carefully, with discernment!)
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eddie- the Aggravator Sat, May 16, 2009 3:55:24am |
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bbuddha Sat, May 16, 2009 4:09:02am |
re: #404 Throbert McGee
and white chocolate just isn't as good as dark chocolate. extra dark lindt truffles are my favorite Yum!
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eddie- the Aggravator Sat, May 16, 2009 4:11:59am |
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Mithrax Sat, May 16, 2009 4:14:15am |
Woohoo! Jays won and Boston lost!
*snoopydances*
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bbuddha Sat, May 16, 2009 4:21:57am |
re: #410 eddie- the Aggravator
nice (sarc) mattress covers apparently do wonders. we had to use them in the dorms when I went to college.
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Steffan Sat, May 16, 2009 4:22:22am |
Obama wants to be compared, favorably, to FDR.
FDR, he ain't.
Herbert Hoover, however.....
Obama is following in Herbert Hoover’s footsteps on taxes and spending. In the Great Depression, Hoover raised marginal tax rates to 63%, and went on a deficit spending binge. Similarly, Obama has proposed higher marginal tax rates, which will produce another $1.9 trillion in tax increases. One of Obama’s own advisers now says that “the barrage of tax increases proposed in President Barack Obama’s budget could, if enacted by Congress, kill any chance of an early and sustained recovery.” He compares Obama’s tax increases to those that deepened the Great Depression.
Hoover imposed regressive taxes that burdened consumers, like the Revenue Act of 1932. Obama is now doing the same thing through his proposed $2 trillion cap-and-trade carbon tax. Obama privately admitted to the San Francisco Chronicle (which didn’t report it) that under his “plan of a cap and trade system, electricity rates would necessarily skyrocket.” As Obama admitted, that cost would be directly passed “on to consumers” — just the way Herbert Hoover’s 1932 excise tax increase was. Although the tax’s supporters claim it will cut greenhouse gas emissions, it may perversely increase them and also result in dirtier air. It is also chock full of corporate welfare, regional favoritism, political pay-offs, and give-aways to special interests.
Provisions in the Porkulus bill have ignited trade wars with Mexico and Canada, affecting thousands of jobs.
If he was trying to deliberately wreck our economy, I can't see anything he would do differently, or to more ill effect.
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bbuddha Sat, May 16, 2009 4:25:50am |
From fox news. An attorney for the El Monte, Calif., Police Officers Association said the kick to the head delivered by an officer to a car-chase suspect lying on the ground was a legally justified "distraction blow," the Los Angeles Times reported. I saw that on the news the other day. legally justified? I think the atty is really reaching. Of course that is what they do. The mental gymnastics I'm exposed to in my dealings with lawyers sometimes gives me an actual headache.
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TheMatrix31 Sat, May 16, 2009 4:29:43am |
re: #414 Steffan
Obama wants to be compared, favorably, to FDR.
FDR, he ain't.
Herbert Hoover, however.....
Provisions in the Porkulus bill have ignited trade wars with Mexico and Canada, affecting thousands of jobs.
If he was trying to deliberately wreck our economy, I can't see anything he would do differently, or to more ill effect.
That's a freakin' EXCELLENT link. EXCELLENT!
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SixDegrees Sat, May 16, 2009 4:31:25am |
re: #414 Steffan
One of Obama’s own advisers now says that “the barrage of tax increases proposed in President Barack Obama’s budget could, if enacted by Congress, kill any chance of an early and sustained recovery.” He compares Obama’s tax increases to those that deepened the Great Depression.
What advisor was that?
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eddie- the Aggravator Sat, May 16, 2009 4:33:52am |
re: #413 bbuddha
When I was a member of the "Uncle Sam's Misguided Children" scout club they were referred to as fart sacks
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TheMatrix31 Sat, May 16, 2009 4:34:53am |
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bbuddha Sat, May 16, 2009 4:35:13am |
re: #417 SixDegrees
What advisor was that?
There is no doubt in my mind, that is a correct assesment. Didn't know that he picked any advisor that would say that out loud.
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bbuddha Sat, May 16, 2009 4:36:38am |
re: #418 eddie- the Aggravator
OK I get the usmc, what does the scout club refer to?
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SixDegrees Sat, May 16, 2009 4:43:20am |
re: #419 TheMatrix31
OK. Let's look at the quote again:
One of Obama’s own advisers now says that “the barrage of tax increases proposed in President Barack Obama’s budget could, if enacted by Congress, kill any chance of an early and sustained recovery.” He compares Obama’s tax increases to those that deepened the Great Depression.
Feldstein was chairman of the Council of Economic Advisors - under President Reagan. I think Obama may have appointed him to sit on one of his economic boards, but the article strongly implies a much larger and important role. This sort of overblown rhetoric has a bad habit of backfiring when the truth comes out.
What did the other advisors on the same panel have to say? See the problem? It's cherry-picking, and it calls into question every other fact presented in the rest of the article as a result.
People really need to take a deep breath and approach this rationally. The fine mist of spittle being sprayed on these issues is going to lead to their acceptance and make them impervious to criticism.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, May 16, 2009 4:49:25am |
*Yawns...Stretches...Rubs eyes...(Grieg's Peer Gynt, Morning Mood plays)
Morning Y'all!
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SixDegrees Sat, May 16, 2009 4:50:26am |
re: #420 bbuddha
There is no doubt in my mind, that is a correct assesment. Didn't know that he picked any advisor that would say that out loud.
Perhaps he's more broad-minded than you've come to believe. Such an appointment - of a former Reagan appointee - certainly lends credence to such a view.
I don't see much that's helpful here; it's after-the-fact criticism, Monday-morning quarterbacking at it's worst. It would be far better to offer concrete counter-proposals and solid support for why they are more sound than to play the ObamaSaidItSoItMustBeBad game that the Left has played with Bush's various proposals over the last several years.
What's needed is real leadership. Not juvenile jeering.
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aboo-Hoo-Hoo Sat, May 16, 2009 4:51:54am |
Obama’s U.N. Mistake is anything but
America is now on a collision course with Israel.....Apparently Obama prefers a playing field with 57 members of the Organization of the Islamic Conference, 22 members of the Arab League — most of whom don’t recognize the right of Israel to exist — and one Jewish state. A great idea — if the purpose is to ensure Israel comes begging for American protection.
The U.N. presidential statement also makes laudatory references to another third-party venture, the 2002 Arab “Peace” Initiative. That’s a Saudi plan to force Israel to retreat to indefensible borders in advance of what most Arab states still believe will be a final putsch down the road. America’s U.N. ambassador, Susan Rice, announced to the Security Council that “we intend to integrate the Arab Peace Initiative into our own approach.”
Make no mistake: This U.N. move, made with U.S. approval, sets America on a well-calculated collision course with Israel.
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Steffan Sat, May 16, 2009 5:01:36am |
re: #417 SixDegrees
What advisor was that?
Doesn't say. My bet is that none of The One's advisors dare to come out openly against him for fear of reprisal -- the Chicago School of politics is somewhat unfriendly towards stool pigeons.
On another matter, James Taranto hit one out of the park:
Everyone knows by now what happened: Pelosi was encouraging the Angry Left as it demanded retribution against Bush administration officials for their efforts to protect America from terrorist attacks in the wake of 9/11. Now that she has been exposed as complicit in those efforts, she is reaping the whirlwind of hatred that she helped stir up. And she is going to war with the CIA--a war in which even someone with much more intelligence than Nancy Pelosi would be vastly outmatched.
This Reuters dispatch on the Pelosi performance gave us a big smile:
The troubles of House Speaker Nancy Pelosi threatened to divert Democrats from President Barack Obama's economic agenda when many Americans would like to put Bush-era controversies behind them.In journalese, many, like some, is a first-person singular pronoun. As it happens, we agree with Reuters that many Americans would like to put Bush-era controversies behind them. But we thought so even before one of those controversies reached the verge of consuming a leading Democrat.
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bbuddha Sat, May 16, 2009 5:03:12am |
re: #424 SixDegrees
Perhaps he's more broad-minded than you've come to believe. Such an appointment - of a former Reagan appointee - certainly lends credence to such a view.
I don't see much that's helpful here; it's after-the-fact criticism, Monday-morning quarterbacking at it's worst. It would be far better to offer concrete counter-proposals and solid support for why they are more sound than to play the ObamaSaidItSoItMustBeBad game that the Left has played with Bush's various proposals over the last several years.
What's needed is real leadership. Not juvenile jeering.
Oh, I don't think so. And as you said in your prev post. Obama appointed him to sit on one of his economic boards. He certainly doesn't qualify as an insider. The other point you made about offering counter proposals hasn't worked so well. Obama and the dem congress are acting as if his win was a landslide (it wasn't, even against a very politically weak opponent) and that as such they should move this country as far left as quickly as possible. I don't believe everything he says is bad, I also don't believe that he means everything he says.
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Steffan Sat, May 16, 2009 5:05:31am |
re: #421 bbuddha
OK I get the usmc, what does the scout club refer to?
Rangers/Pathfinders/Recon. The best of the best.
Trust me on this: You do not want these people to be angry with you.
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Steffan Sat, May 16, 2009 5:10:32am |
re: #423 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
*Yawns...Stretches...Rubs eyes...(Grieg's Peer Gynt, Morning Mood plays)
Morning Y'all!
I think I prefer Bobby Russell.
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bbuddha Sat, May 16, 2009 5:11:05am |
re: #428 Steffan
Oh, I trust you on that. I don't delude myself that I'm any match for any of the special forces.
My better half, former navy, is helping me work on my shooting skills though. Maybe I'll be a sniper in my next incarnation
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bbuddha Sat, May 16, 2009 5:20:15am |
gotta go now, I think I have enough coffee in me to face the garden
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notutopia Sat, May 16, 2009 5:21:49am |
Forgive me my nonsense as I also forgive the nonsense of those who think they talk sense.
— Robert Frost
"Forgive me my sense if it offends, but I'll say it anyway" - notutopia
"Whole nations depends on technology. Stop the wheels for two days and you'd have riots. Think of Los Angeles or New York with no electricity. Or a longer view, fertilizer plants stop. Or a longer view yet, no new technology for ten years. What happens to our standard of living?... Yet the damned fools won't pay ten minutes' attention a day to science and technology. How many people know what they're doing? Where do these carpets come from? The clothes you're wearing? What do carburetors do? Where do sesame seeds come from? Do you know? Does one voter out of thirty? They won't spend ten minutes a day thinking about the technology that keeps them alive." - Larry Niven and Jerry Pournelle, Lucifer's Hammer
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dingleB Sat, May 16, 2009 5:36:42am |
re: #428 Steffan
Did you ever get the chance to jump out of a OV-10 Bronco as a pathfinder? We could only get a stick of 4 in the bird, and whomever was on the TeamO's shitlist was the first one out.
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smokefire Sat, May 16, 2009 5:37:21am |
re: #425 aboo-Hoo-Hoo
All you Jews that thought HE was a friend to Israel......................Well, time you woke up and smelled the coffee.
Remember he spent 20+ years in THAT church listening to THAT Anti-Semitic Preacher spouting filth, and you still think he is a friend to Israel and the Jews?
Get your heads out of your asses before it's too late.
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96RoadKing Sat, May 16, 2009 5:42:53am |
re: #432 notutopia
Lucifer's Hammer -- Now that'd make a good movie...!
Unfortunately, the Lefty's would probably make it an ode to Manmade Climate Change and the need for renewable energy...
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eon Sat, May 16, 2009 5:43:06am |
re: #425 aboo-Hoo-Hoo
Obama’s U.N. Mistake is anything but
Good Morning, Lizards.
It would be accurate to postulate that, for reasons best known to himself (and which perhaps even he does not fully understand), The One believes that the "roadmap to peace" in the MidEast lies in a replay of France and Britain's "responses" to German expansionism in Austria and (then-) Czechoslovakia in the 1930s. On the principle of, "If we give them what they want, nobody gets hurt".
This of course completely disregards the Arab states' own rhetoric (remember, they define that word differently than we do), in which they swear repeatedly and on everything they hold sacred to do a lot more than just "hurt" Israel, to say nothing of their plans for the West in general. The end result of such a process this time around is most likely exactly what it was in Europe sixty years ago.
But I think that, once more, The One simply does not believe this. Like Stanley Baldwin, Neville Chamberlain, and Eduard Daladier', he is so entranced by his own highly fabulated worldview that he refuses to see reality, or even acknowledge its existence. (This would be consistent with his behavior on other subjects as well, but I digress.)
As for the idea that he wants Israel to "run to America for protection", my guess is, "no". Rather, he wants the entire "MidEast Problem" to just "go away"- and in the interests of both "multiculturalism" and pandering to his base on the far left, he is perfectly willing to let Israel be erased from the face of the Earth to achieve this- as long as he doesn't have to get his hands dirty in the process. (Ask yourself- what are the odds that, faced with another scenario similar to the Yom Kippur War of 1973, that The One would go as far as Nixon did to save Israel? Very low, I suspect.)
In the minds of The One and his underlings, Israel is roughly equivalent to his party's view of South Vietnam in 1973; an unwanted burden, and a handicap to "better relations" with people they want to get next to. Not realizing, or caring, that now as then, the people they are so determined to have a romance with will view their "accommodation" as merely "proper obeisance", and are going to give them absolutely nothing in return.
(The more things change, the more they stay the same.)
cheers
eon
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eon Sat, May 16, 2009 5:50:19am |
re: #438 96RoadKing
But he MEANS well!
So did the other three gents I mentioned. All of the above seem woefully ignorant of exactly which road is "paved with good intentions".
cheers
eon
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smokefire Sat, May 16, 2009 5:56:32am |
We are so FUCKED.
The sad thing is, a lot of us don't even know it, and those that do, are ridiculed, or worse called racists
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96RoadKing Sat, May 16, 2009 5:58:59am |
re: #439 eon
I agree fully with your your points. The Big Zero has an uncanny ability to look at what is happening, completely disregard history or human behavior, and make the most disastrous decision possible.
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quickjustice Sat, May 16, 2009 6:03:21am |
I don't think Obama "means" anything of the sort. America's foreign entanglements are expensive, and require a robust military with global capabilities. The U.S. can't afford such a military and the expansion of domestic social programs Obama proposes.
For this reason, Obama wants to disengage America from the world. Whatever the shortest and easiest path is to disengagement is his policy. Abandoning Israel and Eastern Europe, for example, is the shortest and easiest path. Letting the Islamic Republic of Iran have its way is the shortest and easiest path. Abandoning Iraq and Afghanistan is the shortest and easiest path. The only thing impeding Obama is the realization that any foreign policy that clearly threatens American lives here at home will be a political disaster, causing catastrophic defeat for Democrats in the elections.
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Dar ul Harbarian Sat, May 16, 2009 6:10:22am |
Good Morning.
After a night of drinking alone I am ready for a nice bike ride.
It is nice not to be as old as you thought you were.
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realwest Sat, May 16, 2009 6:14:05am |
Good morning y'all - from a warmish (60 degrees going up to 83 degrees, currently 97% humidity) and cloudy, sticky Charlotte!
How is everyone doing this morning?
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eon Sat, May 16, 2009 6:14:25am |
re: #442 quickjustice
I don't think Obama "means" anything of the sort. America's foreign entanglements are expensive, and require a robust military with global capabilities. The U.S. can't afford such a military and the expansion of domestic social programs Obama proposes.
For this reason, Obama wants to disengage America from the world. Whatever the shortest and easiest path is to disengagement is his policy. Abandoning Israel and Eastern Europe, for example, is the shortest and easiest path. Letting the Islamic Republic of Iran have its way is the shortest and easiest path. Abandoning Iraq and Afghanistan is the shortest and easiest path. The only thing impeding Obama is the realization that any foreign policy that clearly threatens American lives here at home will be a political disaster, causing catastrophic defeat for Democrats in the elections.
I concur. The One's vision is that of a utopian absolutist, who (like the POTUS in Clancy's The Sum of All Fears) believes he can "reclaim America's soul" and "lead by example" around the world. Like his idol, Jimmy Carter, he wants to "focus like a laser beam" on remaking the American economy, culture, and ultimately even psyche, into a more "egalitarian" form (no losers, but also no winners, everyone gets what he defines as "their fair share"). He seems to also believe that once he's rebuilt America his way, the rest of the world will be so overcome by his "magnificent example" that they will instantly cast aside all their hatreds (to say nothing of their AKs, RPGs, and nuclear warheads) and join us in rapt adulation of... himself.
To him, the rest of the world is an unwelcome distraction, except when he is busy apologizing to it for our past sins, real, imagined, or existing only in his own fabulated alternative reality. He will forgive the rest of the world for everything (with a few exceptions- like Israel); he will forgive us absolutely nothing, and blame us for things we never even did.
Ultimately, The One is most likely to go down in history, not a second, secular Savior (which is, I suspect, how he views himself)- but as a monument to the destructive power of hubris and narcissism.
cheers
eon
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realwest Sat, May 16, 2009 6:18:14am |
re: #444 Iron Fist
Good morning Iron Fist! But doncha remember how Carter said it was OUR fault (everday Americans, I mean) because we were caught up in a "malaisse" that was creating or at least continuing the inflation and poorly performing economy? I mean it wasn't Carter's fault, it was OUR fault.
After Obama can no longer credibly claim it's "Bush's fault" how long until we get to another "malaisse" sorta speech about how ordinary Americans (except for members of the UAW, of course) aren't doing enough?
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_RememberTonyC Sat, May 16, 2009 6:19:09am |
I want to thank "Jimmah," who posted a you tube clip of george galloway on a British TV show on the previous thread. it was a fantastic 7:00 long clip.
galloway, as you know is an apologist for every islamist group in the world. and in this clp, he actually has the gall to say the following to his on camera tormentor:
"I have no respect for men who beat up on women." (not an exact quote, but that is the gist of it)
It was beyond laughable, considering the islamist culture treats women worse than animals. But I guess you can't spell galloway without gall.
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realwest Sat, May 16, 2009 6:21:37am |
And just cause I'm drinking my coffee now and I like this ditty - here for y'all's listening pleasure is:
[Link: www.imeem.com...]
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Digital Display Sat, May 16, 2009 6:28:00am |
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_RememberTonyC Sat, May 16, 2009 6:28:13am |
re: #450 HoosierHoops
Good Morning Lizards!
'Sup Hoosier .... I will be at game 7 in Boston tomorrow night ... if I see Bill Simmons, I'll send him your best!
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sattv4u2 Sat, May 16, 2009 6:28:40am |
re: #443 Dar ul Harbarian
Good Morning.
After a night of drinking alone I am ready for a nice bike ride.
It is nice not to be as old as you thought you were.
Every time I engage in some physical activity, the next morning reminds me how old I really am!
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sattv4u2 Sat, May 16, 2009 6:29:43am |
re: #453 HoosierHoops
Hi Satt! How are you today?
Cup a coffee by my side, dog at my feet, wife and son asleep, me on LGF, don't have to be to work till 10 tomorrow morning
Life is good!
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sattv4u2 Sat, May 16, 2009 6:30:18am |
re: #454 _RememberTonyC
'Sup Hoosier .... I will be at game 7 in Boston tomorrow night ... if I see Bill Simmons, I'll send him your best!
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Digital Display Sat, May 16, 2009 6:31:11am |
re: #454 _RememberTonyC
'Sup Hoosier .... I will be at game 7 in Boston tomorrow night ... if I see Bill Simmons, I'll send him your best!
No f'g way!
TonyC you Bastard! I am so jealous...
I've never been to a game 7....
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sattv4u2 Sat, May 16, 2009 6:31:33am |
re: #454 _RememberTonyC
'Sup Hoosier .... I will be at game 7 in Boston tomorrow night ... if I see Bill Simmons, I'll send him your best!
envious stare
Although I will admit sitting in front of my hi def 40' flat screen is a good alternative
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_RememberTonyC Sat, May 16, 2009 6:32:27am |
re: #458 HoosierHoops
No f'g way!
TonyC you Bastard! I am so jealous...
I've never been to a game 7....
me neither, at least not as a fan. I'll be in section 9 sticking pins in my Dwight Howard voodoo doll!
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eon Sat, May 16, 2009 6:32:49am |
re: #444 Iron Fist
It is interesting that he seems to be doing this with, if not malice aforethought, then with his eyes wide open to the fact that he is following a policy that will be harmful to the economy. I'll admit I am afraid of the direction we are going in. I am especially worried about inflation. I'm old enough to remember Carter, and how disasterous his economic policy was.
With that in mind, I think I've finally figured out what he's going to do with Chrysler and GM.
The two car companies form a "two-state problem" for The One;
A. They make automobiles, which his supporters on the left view as evil; smelly, polluting, dangerous, and they encourage peasants to move around as they will instead of doing what they should- ride public transport while listening to piped-in "rational" Muzak (like NPR's All Things Considered) and reading "approved" news sources (like the Utne Reader and the New Yorker, as opposed to, say, the Weekly Standard). His supporters would love to see the car companies die, period.
B. But- They are huge union employers. Specifically the UAW, which moved Heaven, Earth, and a big chunk of H**l to put The One in the Oval Office- and now are demanding their "just due".
His problem is, how to keep the UAW happy while not p***ing off his "deep green" cohorts?
Well, when he says he wants them to "sell more cars", even "green" ones- he's lying. (Big surprise.) You don't do that by killing off dealers. However, doing so is a reasonable measure, if what you really want is to convert the car companies to something else.
I believe the key is the "guidelines" for Chrysler which state that their first priority is to fulfill all UAW "contract obligations"- i.e., pay wages, bonuses, benefits, all the Dear Sirs and Brothers sitting in the Job Bank, etc.- as opposed to making and selling cars. Rather like Dilbert's pointy-haired boss, he thinks "If we cut expenses enough, we can be profitable withouit selling anything". How?
In a word, TARP.
Remember, the TARP money went to Chrysler and GM first. And from Chrysler, at least, straight to the UAW.
My hypothesis is that The One intends that Chrysler and GM become little more than "holding companies". In essence, false fronts, existing for the sole purpose of funneling TARP money to the UAW. In return, UAW keeps delivering votes and 527 funds to The One and his minions, even if Chrysler or GM never makes or sells another vehicle, ever.
It's a very Chicago way of doing business, and I'm sure The One thinks he can keep it going almost forever, as long as the TARP money holds out. And he can always raise taxes to ensure that- he thinks.
Of course, eventually, we'll run out of people who can pay the taxes- but I'm pretty sure that The One simply doesn't believe that.
cheers
eon
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_RememberTonyC Sat, May 16, 2009 6:33:35am |
re: #459 sattv4u2
envious stare
Although I will admit sitting in front of my hi def 40' flat screen is a good alternative
usually that's my favorite spot too. but the Celtics NEED me there tomorrow night, so I bit the bullet and paid up :)
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Digital Display Sat, May 16, 2009 6:34:50am |
re: #460 _RememberTonyC
me neither, at least not as a fan. I'll be in section 9 sticking pins in my Dwight Howard voodoo doll!
GO BOSTON!
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_RememberTonyC Sat, May 16, 2009 6:35:29am |
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sattv4u2 Sat, May 16, 2009 6:35:49am |
re: #460 _RememberTonyC
me neither, at least not as a fan. I'll be in section 9 sticking pins in my Dwight Howard voodoo doll!
What Rivers should do is with about 4 minutes left in the half, put Mickey Moore on Howard every time Orlando gets the ball. Moore fouls Howard 6 times for free throws, Howard makes only 3-4 of them
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jcm Sat, May 16, 2009 6:37:05am |
Morning Honcos!
Obama nominates Durkan as Seattle U.S. attorney
Jenny Durkan, a prominent Seattle defense attorney and longtime friend, confidante and lawyer to Gov. Chris Gregoire, has been nominated by President Obama to be the Seattle-based U.S. Attorney for Western Washington.
John McKay was in this position and one of the eight axed by Pres. Bush. Local speculation is he was cut for not investigating the '04 election even with sufficient probable cause to launch an investigation.
Durkin was the lead (D) attorney when the (R)s launched the court challenge to the '04 election.
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sattv4u2 Sat, May 16, 2009 6:37:29am |
re: #465 sattv4u2
What Rivers should do is with about 4 minutes left in the half, put Mickey Moore on Howard every time Orlando gets the ball. Moore fouls Howard 6 times for free throws, Howard makes only 3-4 of them
Throws Orlando's rhythm off ending the half hoping it carries over to the 2nd half
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realwest Sat, May 16, 2009 6:37:49am |
re: #450 HoosierHoops
Hi there Hoops! I was just getting some more coffee when y'all came on board!
How are you today?
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_RememberTonyC Sat, May 16, 2009 6:38:58am |
re: #465 sattv4u2
What Rivers should do is with about 4 minutes left in the half, put Mickey Moore on Howard every time Orlando gets the ball. Moore fouls Howard 6 times for free throws, Howard makes only 3-4 of them
You know, I was thinking something very similar about Moore. I think Doc should put him on Rashard Lewis for 3 minutes here and there. Lewis shoots over Glen Davis and Brian Scalabrine easily. And while Moore is inept for the most part, his length at leats will make it harder for lewis to get clean looks at the hoop. Kendrick Perkins has played Howard well, but I agree that Moore could use some of his fouls against Dwight at strategic times.
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sattv4u2 Sat, May 16, 2009 6:40:54am |
re: #469 _RememberTonyC
You know, I was thinking something very similar about Moore. I think Doc should put him on Rashard Lewis for 3 minutes here and there. Lewis shoots over Glen Davis and Brian Scalabrine easily. And while Moore is inept for the most part, his length at leats will make it harder for lewis to get clean looks at the hoop. Kendrick Perkins has played Howard well, but I agree that Moore could use some of his fouls against Dwight at strategic times.
Lewis would go around Moore like a begger going around the Public Gardens
untouched
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Digital Display Sat, May 16, 2009 6:41:04am |
re: #468 realwest
Hi there Hoops! I was just getting some more coffee when y'all came on board!
How are you today?
Hey RealWest! I'm doing well today..It's rainy out today..Weather sucks..
I was hoping to have the pool open by now and me sitting out there with my feet in the pool and blogging in the morning...BUT NOOOOO!
*wink*
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sattv4u2 Sat, May 16, 2009 6:42:04am |
re: #472 HoosierHoops
Hey RealWest! I'm doing well today..It's rainy out today..Weather sucks..
I was hoping to have the pool open by now and me sitting out there with my feet in the pool and blogging in the morning...BUT NOOOOO!
*wink*
So you don't go out and get wet in the pool because it's ,,,,, ummm,, wet outside !?!?!?!?!?!?
///
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_RememberTonyC Sat, May 16, 2009 6:42:20am |
re: #471 sattv4u2
Lewis would go around Moore like a begger going around the Public Gardens
untouched
maybe moore could fall down and draw a charge :)
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_RememberTonyC Sat, May 16, 2009 6:43:28am |
So long for now ... time to do some weeding on this nice New England spring morning. I'll check in later on.
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sattv4u2 Sat, May 16, 2009 6:43:46am |
re: #474 _RememberTonyC
maybe moore could fall down and draw a charge :)
Moore should be in for either what I said, or when Orlando puts in Gortat so Perkins and Davis don't pick up any fouls guarding him!
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Digital Display Sat, May 16, 2009 6:43:56am |
re: #469 _RememberTonyC
You know, I was thinking something very similar about Moore. I think Doc should put him on Rashard Lewis for 3 minutes here and there. Lewis shoots over Glen Davis and Brian Scalabrine easily. And while Moore is inept for the most part, his length at leats will make it harder for lewis to get clean looks at the hoop. Kendrick Perkins has played Howard well, but I agree that Moore could use some of his fouls against Dwight at strategic times.
Perkins has taken Howard to school...
How is that defense working out for ya Howard? If KG was healthy this series would have been over...
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Digital Display Sat, May 16, 2009 6:45:25am |
re: #473 sattv4u2
So you don't go out and get wet in the pool because it's ,,,,, ummm,, wet outside !?!?!?!?!?!?
///
Exactly! I need a hot sun..Clear water and cold beer on Saturdays..
Bows head...Amen.
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realwest Sat, May 16, 2009 6:47:26am |
re: #461 eon
Good day to you eon! By golly I think you have finally figured out what he's going to do with Chrysler and GM!
And that's why the Liberals Left are so afraid of the Tea Parties. Trying to hook them up to truly despicable people (Pam Gellers, Neo-Nazi's) or just depressing and mindless folks like Ron Paul and Alan Keyes is simply a way to dismiss the tea parties as nothing more than, well.......nothing.
The reality is that those Americans who haven't been fooled by the "Rock Star" persona of Obama (which covers, btw, the Left, Middle and Right spectrums of the body Politic that actually - you know - thinks about things -) hear that Moodys may downgrade United States Treasury Bonds next year from Triple A to Double A BECAUSE the deficit being proposed will equal 62% of our GNP and they are PISSED OFF ABOUT IT.
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sattv4u2 Sat, May 16, 2009 6:47:40am |
re: #479 HoosierHoops
Exactly! I need a hot sun..Clear water and cold beer on Saturdays..
Bows head...Amen.
Start with the (many) beers then the hot sun won;t be an issue!
When we go to our So Carolina place, we're often at the beach when a rainstorm pops up. Unless there's lightning, we just sit it out either on our beach chairs or in the water. I mean, WTF, we were there to get wet anyway!
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sattv4u2 Sat, May 16, 2009 6:50:39am |
Derrick Jackson,,,, Boston Globe
Straight out of the Lefty Conspiracy/ Hate Handbook
no WONDER what once was one of the 4 best papers in the country is on life support
[Link: www.boston.com...]
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realwest Sat, May 16, 2009 6:50:45am |
re: #466 jcm Good morning jcm! So what you're saying is that with that appointment Obama has permanently put Washington in the Blue State category and can use ACORN in states which still have a modicum of common sense and decency?!
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jcm Sat, May 16, 2009 6:51:16am |
Blinky floundering.........
FLUSTERED PELOSI ATTEMPTS TO EXPLAIN WHAT SHE KNEW WHEN REGARDING WATERBOARDING
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Aye Pod Sat, May 16, 2009 6:53:01am |
re: #448 _RememberTonyC
I want to thank "Jimmah," who posted a you tube clip of george galloway on a British TV show on the previous thread. it was a fantastic 7:00 long clip.
galloway, as you know is an apologist for every islamist group in the world. and in this clp, he actually has the gall to say the following to his on camera tormentor:
"I have no respect for men who beat up on women." (not an exact quote, but that is the gist of it)
It was beyond laughable, considering the islamist culture treats women worse than animals. But I guess you can't spell galloway without gall.
Cheers! The article I found the video embedded in, from Harry's Place:
[Link: www.hurryupharry.org...]
Galloways hypocrisy is now legendary. I'm still wondering why he hasn't been arrested yet for giving money to terrorists though...
and on a lighter note...
Heh.
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jcm Sat, May 16, 2009 6:54:10am |
re: #483 realwest
Good morning jcm! So what you're saying is that with that appointment Obama has permanently put Washington in the Blue State category and can use ACORN in states which still have a modicum of common sense and decency?!
Let's put it this way. If the vote fraud benefits the (D)s don't expect anything from the US Attorney's office.
In all fairness the (R)s blew their challenge case. And the resulting case law makes proving vote fraud in WA virtually impossible.
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realwest Sat, May 16, 2009 6:54:54am |
re: #470 Iron Fist Hey Bro' - you know I've been doing a lot of thinking about Republicans these days and I'm not so sure that it's incompetency so much as a lack of agreement as to which, say, 3 Democrat policies are the better targets politically. Target acquitision is SO important in "warfare" and it seems that Republicans have SO MANY TARGETS to shoot at that they are simply holding fire.
I think they ought to follow the realwest method of infantry warfare in Vietnam: Spray and pray baby, Rock and Roll!
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eddie- the Aggravator Sat, May 16, 2009 6:56:25am |
re: #421 bbuddha
bbuddha,
It's just a sarcastic referrence to the USMC.......
Sort of like calling it: The Crotch instead of the Corp.
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realwest Sat, May 16, 2009 6:56:33am |
re: #472 HoosierHoops
LOL! Well look at it this way Hoops - y'all can still dangle your feet in the water and blog, it'll just have to be a big ole muddy pothole or something like that!
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MandyManners Sat, May 16, 2009 6:56:43am |
Whose woods these are I think I know.
His house is in the village though;
He will not see me stopping here
To watch his woods fill up with snow.
My little horse must think it queer
To stop without a farmhouse near
Between the woods and frozen lake
The darkest evening of the year.
He gives his harness bells a shake
To ask if there is some mistake.
The only other sound's the sweep
Of easy wind and downy flake.
The woods are lovely, dark and deep.
But I have promises to keep,
And miles to go before I sleep,
And miles to go before I sleep.
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jcm Sat, May 16, 2009 6:58:59am |
Pro-Gun Amendment pass in US Senate.
'Yes' to guns in national parks
The amendment passed 67-29 on Tuesday. Twenty-seven Democrats joined 39 Republicans and one independent in support.It was attached to a bill imposing restrictions on credit card companies.
Coburn, R-Okla., sponsored the measure, which he said would protect the Second Amendment rights of law-abiding citizens. The amendment allows firearms in parks and wildlife refuges, as long as they are allowed by federal, state and local law.
"If an American citizen has a right to carry a firearm in their state, it makes no sense to treat them like a criminal if they pass through a national park while in possession of a firearm," Coburn said.
Twenty-seven Democrats joined 39 Republicans and one independent in supporting the amendment, which was attached to a bill imposing restrictions on credit card companies. The amendment was approved 67-29.
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eddie- the Aggravator Sat, May 16, 2009 7:00:02am |
re: #440 smokefire
Truer words were never spoken!
The smoking lamp is lit......so smoke 'em if you got 'em.
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eon Sat, May 16, 2009 7:00:40am |
re: #480 realwest
Good day to you eon! By golly I think you have finally figured out what he's going to do with Chrysler and GM!
And that's why theLiberalsLeft are so afraid of the Tea Parties. Trying to hook them up to truly despicable people (Pam Gellers, Neo-Nazi's) or just depressing and mindless folks like Ron Paul and Alan Keyes is simply a way to dismiss the tea parties as nothing more than, well.......nothing.
The reality is that those Americans who haven't been fooled by the "Rock Star" persona of Obama (which covers, btw, the Left, Middle and Right spectrums of the body Politic that actually - you know - thinks about things -) hear that Moodys may downgrade United States Treasury Bonds next year from Triple A to Double A BECAUSE the deficit being proposed will equal 62% of our GNP and they are PISSED OFF ABOUT IT.
Morning, realwest. I think you're right.
I have to admit that I almost got my first laugh out of The One yesterday, when I heard his speech about "we can't keep borrowing money" and "our grandchildren will have to pay for this". H. Beam Piper would call that the "drunkard's morning-after resolution" ("I'll go on the wagon after I drain this bottle"). In essence, he was saying, "We can't do what I just did"- with practically everyone not part of his own party warning him not to do it.
Interestingly enough, the ones most likely to be seriously honked off about Moody's action will be the single biggest foreign holder of Treasuries at present; the People's Republic of China. If the old men in the Forbidden City need quick liquidity, those bonds will be harder to unload in a hurry, and won't bring as big a return.
If this were an earlier day (say, back when I carried a sidearm for a living), I'd advise Moody's to have somebody tip them of any late-night meetings at No. 15 Bow String Alley in Beijing.
/Former HQ of PLA "Cultural Affairs Section"- equivalent to KGB Mokkrye Dela, immortalized in Fleming's 007 novels as SMERSH.
cheers
eon
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realwest Sat, May 16, 2009 7:02:43am |
re: #491 jcm
Huh - how many "Independents" are there in the US Senate? I can only think of Joe Lieberman - someone whom I'd be astonished to find supporting that postition!
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jcm Sat, May 16, 2009 7:04:15am |
If your school doesn't meet standards, what is one to do?
Cheat of course.
Rapid Rise in Some WASL Scores Suspicious
Earlier this week, KIRO Team 7 Investigators proved how a little, flagrant cheating on the WASL can dramatically improve scores.
It's for the children, remember that, it's for the children.
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sattv4u2 Sat, May 16, 2009 7:05:36am |
re: #495 jcm
If your school doesn't meet standards, what is one to do?
Cheat of course.
Rapid Rise in Some WASL Scores Suspicious
It's for the children, remember that, it's for the children.
Well, that just PROVES all we need to do is spend more money on public education!
//
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jcm Sat, May 16, 2009 7:06:17am |
re: #494 realwest
Huh - how many "Independents" are there in the US Senate? I can only think of Joe Lieberman - someone whom I'd be astonished to find supporting that postition!
Lieberman and Sanders, VT.
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Kenneth Sat, May 16, 2009 7:06:20am |
re: #484 jcm
Heck of a job, Blinky!
Also worth watching is Krauthammer's dissection of Pelosi's self-imolation
He points out Pelosi's lies and that she has declared herself at war with the CIA. Not a smart move.
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eon Sat, May 16, 2009 7:07:24am |
re: #494 realwest
Huh - how many "Independents" are there in the US Senate? I can only think of Joe Lieberman - someone whom I'd be astonished to find supporting that postition!
I could see Lieberman supporting it, in the interests of getting the credit-card bill (which he supports) through. The only other "independent" I'm aware of in the Senate is Bernie Sanders (I-VT), who is only an "Independent" because there was no space on the card for "Communist".
Quote from same;
If people really understood Communism, they'd beg to live under it.
Tell that to half of Europe, Bernie. But do it by email.
/Not face to face.
cheers
eon
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opnion Sat, May 16, 2009 7:07:41am |
Good morning. I'm glad that Nancy Pelosi clarified her comments about being lyed to by the CIA. She now says that it was really the "Bush" Administartion that lyed. This even though the CIA did the briefing.
Hmmmmmmm
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realwest Sat, May 16, 2009 7:07:53am |
re: #493 eon
Oh yeah, the ChiComs Peoples Republic of China are most assuredly gonna get PISSED OFF if in fact Moody's goes that route. And frankly from what I've read of "unexpectedly falling Tax Revenues" (largely due to the ever increasing unemployment rolls) the Deficit next year will be far greater than the $1.8 TRILLION projected now. But Moody's and the rest be damned, National Healthcare here we come!
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MandyManners Sat, May 16, 2009 7:08:06am |
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sattv4u2 Sat, May 16, 2009 7:08:48am |
re: #480 realwest
Moodys may downgrade United States Treasury Bonds next year from Triple A to Double A BECAUSE the deficit being proposed will equal 62% of our GNP and they are PISSED OFF ABOUT IT.
I would venture to say that over 90% of the populace neither knows nor cares. It won;t change one opinion of The One. Those of us that know what he's doing still will, those of us that voted for him still would!
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Kenneth Sat, May 16, 2009 7:09:39am |
re: #487 realwest
That's it exactly: no fire control. The GOP is leaderless, it's every man for himself, shooting wild. That's no way to win a battle.
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Digital Display Sat, May 16, 2009 7:09:42am |
re: #498 Kenneth
Heck of a job, Blinky!
Also worth watching is Krauthammer's dissection of Pelosi's self-imolation
He points out Pelosi's lies and that she has declared herself at war with the CIA. Not a smart move.
It's a delicious meltdown...I love seeing Pelosi get her karma points..
Hope this takes months to resolve...
She gone
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realwest Sat, May 16, 2009 7:09:49am |
re: #497 jcm
Sanders? From Vermont you say? How long has Sanders been an Independent and what was he before that, do you know?
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sattv4u2 Sat, May 16, 2009 7:10:10am |
re: #497 jcm
Lieberman and Sanders, VT.
I don;t think he meant "independent" as in party affiliation. I think it's more voting record. Sandres votes with the dems 100% of the time
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Ateam Sat, May 16, 2009 7:11:03am |
re: #437 eon
"(Ask yourself- what are the odds that, faced with another scenario similar to the Yom Kippur War of 1973, that The One would go as far as Nixon did to save Israel? Very low, I suspect.)"
Truth is that even not Nixon saved Israel during 1973 war. We ourselves did. With the blood of about 3,000 dead (comparing to the amount of populations at this time, it's reflects in USA terms 270,000 - 5 times all the casualties in all the years fighting Vietnam. And we are talking here only about 3 weeks).
Another truth was that Nixon threatened Israel against lunching a prevention-strike before the Arabs took actions, and also help beaten Egypt to release the 2nd Armin sieged by IDF, near the end of this war.
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opnion Sat, May 16, 2009 7:11:05am |
re: #501 realwest
Oh yeah, the
ChiComsPeoples Republic of China are most assuredly gonna get PISSED OFF if in fact Moody's goes that route. And frankly from what I've read of "unexpectedly falling Tax Revenues" (largely due to the ever increasing unemployment rolls) the Deficit next year will be far greater than the $1.8 TRILLION projected now. But Moody's and the rest be damned, National Healthcare here we come!
Morning Real. Yeah National Health care on the way.
For those who get rationed or denied treatment, they can just remind themselves that living is overrated & gaze at their Chia Obama.
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jcm Sat, May 16, 2009 7:12:46am |
re: #496 sattv4u2
Well, that just PROVES all we need to do is spend more money on public education!
//
The WASL itself is a disaster. Teachers are spending a good part of the time teaching to the test.
Sample high school math question:
A 4 feet by 4 feet dartboard has a 2 foot square target. What is the probability that a random throw that hits the dartboard will hit the target? Explain your answer in detail.
That doesn't mean show an equation.
It means explain how you think about it. And the thought process is give tons of partial credit.
In the real world there is one answer, how you think about is irrelevant.
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Kenneth Sat, May 16, 2009 7:13:17am |
re: #500 opnion
Keep digging, Nancy, keep on digging! In fact, I think you should mention all the other Democrats who were briefed lied to by the CIA. We would love to hear what they have to say about it, too.
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Aye Pod Sat, May 16, 2009 7:13:40am |
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realwest Sat, May 16, 2009 7:13:52am |
re: #498 Kenneth Good morning Kenneth! I'm actually astonished that Pelosi managed to grab Speaker of the House, her being dumber than a truckload of rocks and all.
But boy, if ever there was a part of the Federal Government NOT to go to war with, and this includes the IRS, it's the CIA.
I'll lay odds that Blinky won't be Speaker beyond Labor Day at the latest. I mean, she can't even LIE convincingly - didja see that "press conference" where she kept moving away from the podium, then back, then away, then back and blamed some of her idiocy on pages being "out of order"! Hey Blinky - if you tell the truth you won't have to worry about whether you're on or off your prepared text, ya know?!
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sattv4u2 Sat, May 16, 2009 7:14:12am |
re: #502 MandyManners
Isn't Sanders a representative?
re: #506 realwest
Sanders? From Vermont you say? How long has Sanders been an Independent and what was he before that, do you know?
Leahy and Sanders
Sanders is actually a Socialist
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
Sanders is a self-described democratic socialist, but because he does not belong to a formal political party, he appears as an independent on the ballot. Sanders caucuses with the Democratic Party and is counted as a Democrat for the purposes of committee assignments
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Kenneth Sat, May 16, 2009 7:14:47am |
re: #505 HoosierHoops
It's a delicious meltdown...I love seeing Pelosi get her karma points..
Hope this takes months to resolve...
She gone
I'm praying for plenty of collateral damage!
| 517 |
realwest Sat, May 16, 2009 7:15:48am |
re: #500 opnion Good morning opnion my friend! How are you doing this morning?
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jcm Sat, May 16, 2009 7:16:09am |
re: #502 MandyManners
Isn't Sanders a representative?
Bernard "Bernie" Sanders (born September 8, 1941) is the junior United States Senator from Vermont, elected on November 7, 2006. Before becoming Senator, Sanders represented Vermont's at-large district in the United States House of Representatives for 16 years.
He causes with the (D)s, big time lib.
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Digital Display Sat, May 16, 2009 7:16:22am |
re: #513 realwest
Good morning Kenneth! I'm actually astonished that Pelosi managed to grab Speaker of the House, her being dumber than a truckload of rocks and all.
But boy, if ever there was a part of the Federal Government NOT to go to war with, and this includes the IRS, it's the CIA.
I'll lay odds that Blinky won't be Speaker beyond Labor Day at the latest. I mean, she can't even LIE convincingly - didja see that "press conference" where she kept moving away from the podium, then back, then away, then back and blamed some of her idiocy on pages being "out of order"! Hey Blinky - if you tell the truth you won't have to worry about whether you're on or off your prepared text, ya know?!
Pelosi has been weighed and measured..
And found wanting
She be gone bro...
I love it! Bye baby bye bye
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UncleRancher Sat, May 16, 2009 7:16:41am |
re: #511 Kenneth
Keep digging, Nancy, keep on digging! In fact, I think you should mention all the other Democrats who were
briefedlied to by the CIA. We would love to hear what they have to say about it, too.
Here's the biggest problem with Fancy Nancy Pants-on-fire. The theory of holes is completely lost on her.
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Kenneth Sat, May 16, 2009 7:17:27am |
re: #513 realwest
I saw her press conference... delicious! Krauthammer gave a wonderful post-mortum. Check it out.
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realwest Sat, May 16, 2009 7:17:34am |
re: #503 sattv4u2
Moodys may downgrade United States Treasury Bonds next year from Triple A to Double A BECAUSE the deficit being proposed will equal 62% of our GNP and they are PISSED OFF ABOUT IT.
I would venture to say that over 90% of the populace neither knows nor cares. It won;t change one opinion of The One. Those of us that know what he's doing still will, those of us that voted for him still would!
Geez, that's really depressing. I mean REALLY depressing. I wonder how many more folks have to lose their jobs before most folks finally "get it"?
| 523 |
MandyManners Sat, May 16, 2009 7:17:39am |
It's fun stepping on your dick this early in the morning.
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sattv4u2 Sat, May 16, 2009 7:18:11am |
re: #510 jcm
Teachers are spending a good part of the time teaching to the test.
In public schools, absolutly. I had this very discussion with my sons Algebra and Biology teachers. He's in a private high school. Both teachers left public school systems for the very reason.
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eon Sat, May 16, 2009 7:19:06am |
re: #510 jcm
The WASL itself is a disaster. Teachers are spending a good part of the time teaching to the test.
Sample high school math question:
A 4 feet by 4 feet dartboard has a 2 foot square target. What is the probability that a random throw that hits the dartboard will hit the target? Explain your answer in detail.That doesn't mean show an equation.
It means explain how you think about it. And the thought process is give tons of partial credit.In the real world there is one answer, how you think about is irrelevant.
4E2=16, 2E2=4, 16/4= 4, 1/4 of board is target, probability of random impact on board being within target area 25%.
That's assuming the "2 foot square" area is actually 2' on each side. If it is in fact only 2 square feet, the probability is halved, i.e. 12.5 %.
One of the "problems" with narrative problems is that English, or really any other language, is inherently imprecise compared to mathematics, and often has difficulty conveying mathematical concepts accurately.
cheers
eon
| 527 |
Kenneth Sat, May 16, 2009 7:20:19am |
re: #523 MandyManners
It's fun stepping on your dick this early in the morning.
Hot date last night?
| 528 |
sattv4u2 Sat, May 16, 2009 7:20:44am |
re: #522 realwest
Geez, that's really depressing. I mean REALLY depressing. I wonder how many more folks have to lose their jobs before most folks finally "get it"?
Most never will. They lose their jobs, they
STEP 1 blame greedy corporations.
STEP 2 look to the gov't to take care of them
STEP 3 find that it's better (easier) to be taken care of than to take care of yourself
STEP 4 vote for the people that promise to keep taking care of you
| 529 |
realwest Sat, May 16, 2009 7:21:33am |
re: #504 Kenneth
That's it exactly: no fire control. The GOP is leaderless, it's every man for himself, shooting wild. That's no way to win a battle.
Well it's surely no way to win a war, but in battles - or more specifically small unit ambushes/counter ambushes that is the way to go.
The problem is, as I said, there are SO many targets out there, that wannabe National Republican Leaders can't seem to figure out which are the ones with which they want to be associated - and remember they HAVE to be careful or they are likely to get the Joe The Plumber treatment from the MSM.
| 530 |
UncleRancher Sat, May 16, 2009 7:22:55am |
re: #526 eon
4E2=16, 2E2=4, 16/4= 4, 1/4 of board is target, probability of random impact on board being within target area 25%.
That's assuming the "2 foot square" area is actually 2' on each side. If it is in fact only 2 square feet, the probability is halved, i.e. 12.5 %.
One
of the "problems" with narrative problems is that English, or really
any other language, is inherently imprecise compared to mathematics,
and often has difficulty conveying mathematical concepts accurately.cheers
eon
Crucial point: For that to work the probability of hitting any point on the board must be uniformly distributed. That would be an anomaly, since the shooter is probably aiming for the target and the distribution is more likely something other than uniform.
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haakondahl Sat, May 16, 2009 7:23:54am |
re: #510 jcm
The WASL itself is a disaster. Teachers are spending a good part of the time teaching to the test.
Sample high school math question:
A 4 feet by 4 feet dartboard has a 2 foot square target. What is the probability that a random throw that hits the dartboard will hit the target? Explain your answer in detail.That doesn't mean show an equation.
It means explain how you think about it. And the thought process is give tons of partial credit.In the real world there is one answer, how you think about is irrelevant.
What's worse, the colloqualism "two foot square" probably means a four sqare foot target, but how could you be sure?
| 533 |
sattv4u2 Sat, May 16, 2009 7:24:02am |
| 534 |
jcm Sat, May 16, 2009 7:25:21am |
re: #524 sattv4u2
Teachers are spending a good part of the time teaching to the test.In public schools, absolutly. I had this very discussion with my sons Algebra and Biology teachers. He's in a private high school. Both teachers left public school systems for the very reason.
When funding, teacher ratings etc... are all in part based on testing it's hard to get out of that loop.
It shouldn't be that hard, with or without testing, students should be expected to have a certain level of competence. That can be show either with a big "final" test or you can show the student's progression through the year with quizzes or worksheets, you don't have to call it a test. But any time a student show they can do work independently, that works for me.
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Kronocide Sat, May 16, 2009 7:25:25am |
re: #533 sattv4u2
I don't like snickers. I prefer Reeses Cups
In keeping the sexual organ refs going, I like Mounds.
| 536 |
MandyManners Sat, May 16, 2009 7:25:26am |
| 537 |
SixDegrees Sat, May 16, 2009 7:25:53am |
re: #526 eon
4E2=16, 2E2=4, 16/4= 4, 1/4 of board is target, probability of random impact on board being within target area 25%.
That's assuming the "2 foot square" area is actually 2' on each side. If it is in fact only 2 square feet, the probability is halved, i.e. 12.5 %.
One of the "problems" with narrative problems is that English, or really any other language, is inherently imprecise compared to mathematics, and often has difficulty conveying mathematical concepts accurately.
cheers
eon
Also - just to cause more trouble - this assumes that tosses at the board are uniformly distributed over the board's entire area. In real life, this isn't a safe assumption unless the board is at a terrific distance. At normal distances for darts, the distribution will be Gaussian. Just to make things even more complicated, it then depends on where the center of the target is relative to the center of the board.
The problem is extremely poorly stated. In a math or physics context, the only reasonable answer is, "There isn't enough information given to answer the question."
| 538 |
opnion Sat, May 16, 2009 7:26:08am |
re: #517 realwest
Good morning opnion my friend! How are you doing this morning?
Doing well Real & I hope today finds you & yours well.
| 539 |
Bloodnok Sat, May 16, 2009 7:26:21am |
| 540 |
SixDegrees Sat, May 16, 2009 7:26:21am |
re: #530 UncleRancher
Crucial point: For that to work the probability of hitting any point on the board must be uniformly distributed. That would be an anomaly, since the shooter is probably aiming for the target and the distribution is more likely something other than uniform.
Damn; you beat me to it.
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Kenneth Sat, May 16, 2009 7:26:25am |
re: #529 realwest
The dems are pretty good at keeping the GOP of balance and shooting wild. They keep throwing up distractions and with the media's help, the GOP are running in circles. The republicans need a strong leader and a clear direction. Until they do, the Dems will have free run.
| 542 |
haakondahl Sat, May 16, 2009 7:26:31am |
re: #526 eon
4E2=16, 2E2=4, 16/4= 4, 1/4 of board is target, probability of random impact on board being within target area 25%.
That's assuming the "2 foot square" area is actually 2' on each side. If it is in fact only 2 square feet, the probability is halved, i.e. 12.5 %.
One of the "problems" with narrative problems is that English, or really any other language, is inherently imprecise compared to mathematics, and often has difficulty conveying mathematical concepts accurately.
cheers
eon
I agree that the barely literate morons who wrote the test have not worded the question well, but for something as simple as this, English has an abundance of precision. The problem is that the test writers were unfamiliar with either math or English.
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rain of lead Sat, May 16, 2009 7:26:38am |
re: #516 momcat
Good Morning everyone. I would like to Wish Rain of Lead a Happy Birthday!
thanks momcat
to steal a line
"if I had known I was going to live this long, I would have taken better
care of myself." :-)
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Digital Display Sat, May 16, 2009 7:27:33am |
re: #543 rain of lead
thanks momcat
to steal a line"if I had known I was going to live this long, I would have taken better
care of myself." :-)
happy Birthday!
| 545 |
MandyManners Sat, May 16, 2009 7:27:34am |
| 546 |
UncleRancher Sat, May 16, 2009 7:27:49am |
re: #537 SixDegrees
Also
- just to cause more trouble - this assumes that tosses at the board
are uniformly distributed over the board's entire area. In real life,
this isn't a safe assumption unless the board is at a terrific
distance. At normal distances for darts, the distribution will be
Gaussian. Just to make things even more complicated, it then depends on
where the center of the target is relative to the center of the board.The
problem is extremely poorly stated. In a math or physics context, the
only reasonable answer is, "There isn't enough information given to
answer the question."
Also not stated is the assumption that the target area is in the center of the board.
| 548 |
sattv4u2 Sat, May 16, 2009 7:28:03am |
re: #535 BigPapa
In keeping the sexual organ refs going, I like Mounds.
What do you think goes into my Reeses CUPS!
| 549 |
realwest Sat, May 16, 2009 7:28:41am |
re: #518 jcm
Yep and according to Wiki - Howard Dean no less says Sanders votes with the Dems 98% of the time.
| 551 |
SixDegrees Sat, May 16, 2009 7:29:03am |
re: #546 UncleRancher
Also not stated is the assumption that the target area is in the center of the board.
Yeah; I mentioned that. Maybe I wasn't clear, either. ;-)
| 554 |
opnion Sat, May 16, 2009 7:30:21am |
re: #511 Kenneth
Keep digging, Nancy, keep on digging! In fact, I think you should mention all the other Democrats who were
briefedlied to by the CIA. We would love to hear what they have to say about it, too.
Every time she issues a new statement, she makes things worse.
She brought all of this on herself. If you are vulnerable don't introduce a subject. She just couldn't help herself, yet the Dems continue claiming that Sarah Palin is stupid.
| 555 |
UncleRancher Sat, May 16, 2009 7:30:44am |
re: #551 SixDegrees
Yeah; I mentioned that. Maybe I wasn't clear, either. ;-)
You sure did. I need to read faster. ;-)
| 556 |
realwest Sat, May 16, 2009 7:30:55am |
re: #521 Kenneth
Hey my friend, I'm feeling kinda lazy today - do y'all have that link for Krauthammer or is it the same as the thread Charles put up yesterday?
| 557 |
jcm Sat, May 16, 2009 7:30:56am |
re: #526 eon
4E2=16, 2E2=4, 16/4= 4, 1/4 of board is target, probability of random impact on board being within target area 25%.
That's assuming the "2 foot square" area is actually 2' on each side. If it is in fact only 2 square feet, the probability is halved, i.e. 12.5 %.
One of the "problems" with narrative problems is that English, or really any other language, is inherently imprecise compared to mathematics, and often has difficulty conveying mathematical concepts accurately.
cheers
eon
The question is imprecise, my question is then. How does a Math question get into a math test where it's unclear what one of the factors is?
That's where teaching to the test comes in. Teachers have to define if 2 foot square target means 2 square feet, or 2 x 2 ft.
If the fuzziness was gone, merely teaching math skills would suffice.
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sattv4u2 Sat, May 16, 2009 7:31:16am |
re: #549 realwest
Yep and according to Wiki - Howard Dean no less says Sanders votes with the Dems 98% of the time.
See my 507 and 514. I dispute Deans #. I dare him to show me where/ when Sanders has NOT voted with the dems, either in Congress or the Senate
| 559 |
rain of lead Sat, May 16, 2009 7:31:38am |
re: #547 MandyManners
thanks MM
this morning momcat and my girl had a yummy choc cheesecake for me.
cheesecake goes really well with coffee :)
| 560 |
jcm Sat, May 16, 2009 7:31:52am |
re: #542 haakondahl
I agree that the barely literate morons who wrote the test have not worded the question well, but for something as simple as this, English has an abundance of precision. The problem is that the test writers were unfamiliar with either math or English.
Both....
They are educators.
| 561 |
sattv4u2 Sat, May 16, 2009 7:32:27am |
re: #553 MandyManners
No quips about malted milk balls?
sounds like a surgical procedure
Doctor
",,, then, we had to quip his malted milk balls"
| 562 |
Kronocide Sat, May 16, 2009 7:32:33am |
re: #553 MandyManners
I prefer Chocolate Salty Balls from my man Chef.
| 563 |
Killgore Trout Sat, May 16, 2009 7:32:52am |
Saturday stupid....
China's yuan 'set to usurp US dollar' as world's reserve currency
The amount of complete nonsense being spouted by really smart people these days is just overwhelming.
| 564 |
Digital Display Sat, May 16, 2009 7:33:19am |
re: #559 rain of lead
thanks MM
this morning momcat and my girl had a yummy choc cheesecake for me.
cheesecake goes really well with coffee :)
Mama makes a mean cherry cheesecake..My favorite twice a year sin
| 565 |
rain of lead Sat, May 16, 2009 7:33:33am |
re: #552 momcat
lord knows I need all the help I can get.
| 566 |
realwest Sat, May 16, 2009 7:33:36am |
re: #528 sattv4u2
OK, KNOCK IT OFF! That's just too much depression for one day and it's only10:30M here (Eastern)!
| 567 |
Lincolntf Sat, May 16, 2009 7:34:25am |
re: #541 Kenneth
Morning all.
While both a clear direction and a strong leader will be needed to win elections, for now we only need a clear direction. Let the leader who represents that direction emerge over time. I'm a supporter of Romney in, but I want him to take his lead from me, not the other way around.
| 568 |
sattv4u2 Sat, May 16, 2009 7:35:13am |
re: #566 realwest
OK, KNOCK IT OFF! That's just too much depression for one day and it's only10:30M here (Eastern)!
hey,, don';t blame me, it's the system
Educate a voter, he/she might vote for you once
Buy a voter, you have a voter for life!
| 569 |
rain of lead Sat, May 16, 2009 7:35:41am |
re: #564 HoosierHoops
cheesecake ...of any kind....food of the gods.
| 570 |
eon Sat, May 16, 2009 7:35:56am |
re: #518 jcm
Bernard "Bernie" Sanders (born September 8, 1941) is the junior United States Senator from Vermont, elected on November 7, 2006. Before becoming Senator, Sanders represented Vermont's at-large district in the United States House of Representatives for 16 years.
He causes with the (D)s, big time lib.
And it's interesting to note that, even in defiantly-liberal VT (home of Howard "The Scream" Dean, among others), it took what P.J. O'Rourke would call an "elect-a-fool" year election to get Bernie into the upper chamber.
/There are apparently only a certain amount of truly dangerously dumb voters in the Green Mountain State. Still probably enough to make Ethan Allen roll over in his grave, though.
cheers
eon
| 571 |
realwest Sat, May 16, 2009 7:36:06am |
re: #543 rain of lead
Hey there rain of lead - Happy Birthday and many, many more!
And to steal one of MY favorite lines: just remember,it's never too late to have a happy childhood!
:)
| 572 |
Bloodnok Sat, May 16, 2009 7:37:28am |
re: #545 MandyManners
Hard toffee is a good thing to find.
When I was visiting NH last week my mom's dog nearly managed to finish a bag of Werthers Originals that was on the kitchen counter. He must have known he couldn't eat any more because he took the second bag that was up there and hid it in the cushions of the couch, unopened.
Little bastard.
| 573 |
Afrocity Sat, May 16, 2009 7:37:39am |
Nice day here in Chicago. I am going to start working out finally. 125lbs- currently. Target 119lbs. I am going to do a combination of thread mill, and weight lighting, followed by yoga.
| 574 |
MandyManners Sat, May 16, 2009 7:37:40am |
I saw Mr. Hottie yesterday when I drove my his place. I waved. He waved. I about fainted.
| 575 |
MandyManners Sat, May 16, 2009 7:38:43am |
re: #572 Bloodnok
When I was visiting NH last week my mom's dog nearly managed to finish a bag of Werthers Originals that was on the kitchen counter. He must have known he couldn't eat any more because he took the second bag that was up there and hid it in the cushions of the couch, unopened.
Little bastard.
Give that dog a laxative.
| 576 |
sattv4u2 Sat, May 16, 2009 7:39:09am |
re: #574 MandyManners
I saw Mr. Hottie yesterday when I drove my his place. I waved. He waved. I about fainted.
That was you I waved too!?!?!
| 577 |
Bloodnok Sat, May 16, 2009 7:39:12am |
| 578 |
Digital Display Sat, May 16, 2009 7:39:53am |
re: #573 Afrocity
Nice day here in Chicago. I am going to start working out finally. 125lbs- currently. Target 119lbs. I am going to do a combination of thread mill, and weight lighting, followed by yoga.
Good morning! Hope today finds you well
| 579 |
Kronocide Sat, May 16, 2009 7:40:09am |
Cheesecake, very good. Especially with lilikoi drizzle.
But Chocolate Haupia 'takes the cake' on cheesecake.
| 580 |
MandyManners Sat, May 16, 2009 7:40:33am |
re: #576 sattv4u2
That was you I waved too!?!?!
You were over-seeing a bunch of guys taking down a tree?
| 581 |
MandyManners Sat, May 16, 2009 7:41:00am |
| 582 |
sattv4u2 Sat, May 16, 2009 7:41:17am |
Speaking of the dog, mines got that "daddy lets go to the park" look in his eyes
The two and a half acres I have out back isn't good enough for him!
| 583 |
rain of lead Sat, May 16, 2009 7:42:11am |
| 584 |
sattv4u2 Sat, May 16, 2009 7:42:11am |
re: #580 MandyManners
You were over-seeing a bunch of guys taking down a tree?
nope,,, I was overseing myself planting blueberry plants, though! Does that count?
| 585 |
UncleRancher Sat, May 16, 2009 7:42:21am |
re: #582 sattv4u2
Speaking of the dog, mines got that "daddy lets go to the park" look in his eyes
The two and a half acres I have out back isn't good enough for him!
Socializing is important for the dog.
| 587 |
Afrocity Sat, May 16, 2009 7:42:37am |
re: #578 HoosierHoops
Thanks Hoops.
May be in your area. Have a Job interview in Indiana.
| 588 |
realwest Sat, May 16, 2009 7:42:52am |
re: #573 Afrocity
Good morning to you! I checked out your blog yesterday and I must say it's really quite good! Is this the first time you're ever run a blog and do y'all REALLY run it by yourself?
I mean, it's really good; far better than anything I could ever do!
| 589 |
MandyManners Sat, May 16, 2009 7:43:06am |
re: #584 sattv4u2
nope,,, I was overseing myself planting blueberry plants, though! Does that count?
Aren't they covered in pricks?
| 590 |
jcm Sat, May 16, 2009 7:43:25am |
re: #580 MandyManners
You were over-seeing a bunch of guys taking down a tree?
He cuts down trees?
The Horror! The Horror!
| 591 |
Afrocity Sat, May 16, 2009 7:43:41am |
re: #574 MandyManners
I saw Mr. Hottie yesterday when I drove my his place. I waved. He waved. I about fainted.
(Turns fan towards MandyManners)
| 592 |
MandyManners Sat, May 16, 2009 7:43:52am |
| 593 |
UncleRancher Sat, May 16, 2009 7:44:19am |
re: #592 MandyManners
Oh, goodness. I played Paul Bunyan's mom in a play in fifth grade.
Sounds painful!
| 594 |
sattv4u2 Sat, May 16, 2009 7:44:27am |
re: #585 UncleRancher
Socializing is important for the dog.
He doesn't, though. Theres a great park within 3 miles of my house. It has lots of open spaces plus 2 seperate enclosed doggie parks (one for dogs under 20 lbs, the other for those over)
He's 12 pounds and there are always 10-15 other dogs in there. he has ZERO interest in them, nor does he care when another dog walks neaar us in the park
| 595 |
realwest Sat, May 16, 2009 7:45:16am |
re: #574 MandyManners
Uh, Mandy, fainting while driving past Mr. Hottie's place could get you in an accident. Not going to impress him with that.
I'd suggest strolling along, waiving and then "fainting" - much less danger involved and y'all might get some mouth to mouth resuscitation!
:)
| 596 |
MandyManners Sat, May 16, 2009 7:45:32am |
re: #590 jcm
He cuts down trees?
The Horror! The Horror!
And, he drives a big truck. And, an SUV. He also oppresses horses for profit.
| 597 |
sattv4u2 Sat, May 16, 2009 7:45:48am |
| 598 |
MandyManners Sat, May 16, 2009 7:45:55am |
| 599 |
MandyManners Sat, May 16, 2009 7:46:21am |
| 600 |
Afrocity Sat, May 16, 2009 7:46:31am |
re: #588 realwest
Good morning to you! I checked out your blog yesterday and I must say it's really quite good! Is this the first time you're ever run a blog and do y'all REALLY run it by yourself?
I mean, it's really good; far better than anything I could ever do!
Yep all by my lonesome. Thanks realwest and so far so good. Only three haters- liberal whack jobs and some guy that hates my anti-affirmative action stance. Says that I think all blacks are stupid. I said that AA is basically saying that you need a give us a job because of our color and nothing else. So which one thinks we are stupid?
| 601 |
haakondahl Sat, May 16, 2009 7:46:48am |
re: #596 MandyManners
And, he drives a big truck. And, an SUV. He also oppresses horses for profit.
Half of them are being oppressed. The other half are being LIBERATED.
| 603 |
Digital Display Sat, May 16, 2009 7:46:55am |
re: #582 sattv4u2
Speaking of the dog, mines got that "daddy lets go to the park" look in his eyes
The two and a half acres I have out back isn't good enough for him!
Did you see my panicked post a few days ago? Winston somehow got out of the backyard..40 minutes later and a mile and a half away i found him chasing a cat..When I called him with tears in my eyes he ran at me full speed with that look in his eyes.." I almost got him daddy!'
I wanted to kick his ass so bad....
| 604 |
Afrocity Sat, May 16, 2009 7:47:44am |
re: #598 MandyManners
I keep smelling salts at hand.
In case you get the vapors...loosen that corset a bit./
| 605 |
MandyManners Sat, May 16, 2009 7:47:45am |
re: #595 realwest
Uh, Mandy, fainting while driving past Mr. Hottie's place could get you in an accident. Not going to impress him with that.
I'd suggest strolling along, waiving and then "fainting" - much less danger involved and y'all might get some mouth to mouth resuscitation!
:)
I'll just stick with having my toes curl involuntarily.
| 606 |
sattv4u2 Sat, May 16, 2009 7:48:29am |
re: #603 HoosierHoops
I wanted to kick his ass so bad....
but instead you hugged and scratched him, took him home and gave him treats!
| 607 |
MandyManners Sat, May 16, 2009 7:48:33am |
| 608 |
MandyManners Sat, May 16, 2009 7:49:28am |
re: #601 haakondahl
Half of them are being oppressed. The other half are being LIBERATED.
Ummm...huh?
| 609 |
rain of lead Sat, May 16, 2009 7:49:50am |
well I'm out.
gotta busy day.
thank you all for the many kind wishes.
I'll check back later tonite
| 610 |
UncleRancher Sat, May 16, 2009 7:49:57am |
Got to run. Chores. I leave this in your capable hands.
Cheers /UR
| 611 |
MandyManners Sat, May 16, 2009 7:50:24am |
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Kronocide Sat, May 16, 2009 7:50:28am |
Maybe a Paul Bunyan statue could be the new leader of the conservative constituency. Speaks softly (actually, not at all) and carries a big stick.
Can't open mouth for the foot insertion.
No negatives, no past history to be exploited by the gossipnazis.
Hm...
| 613 |
MandyManners Sat, May 16, 2009 7:51:04am |
The Kid's having a friend come over today. Gotta' tidy a bit.
| 614 |
MandyManners Sat, May 16, 2009 7:51:55am |
re: #612 BigPapa
Maybe a Paul Bunyan statue could be the new leader of the conservative constituency. Speaks softly (actually, not at all) and carries a big stick.
Can't open mouth for the foot insertion.
No negatives, no past history to be exploited by the gossipnazis.
Hm...
What about the rumors about him and Babe?
| 615 |
jcm Sat, May 16, 2009 7:52:24am |
re: #612 BigPapa
Maybe a Paul Bunyan statue could be the new leader of the conservative constituency. Speaks softly (actually, not at all) and carries a big stick.
Can't open mouth for the foot insertion.
No negatives, no past history to be exploited by the gossipnazis.
Hm...
He's a LOGGER!
| 616 |
Digital Display Sat, May 16, 2009 7:52:47am |
re: #587 Afrocity
Thanks Hoops.
May be in your area. Have a Job interview in Indiana.
Wow!
If you are in the Indy area drop me a line..I consider you a friend and you've got a friend in the Indy area..
My Nic is blue....
| 619 |
eon Sat, May 16, 2009 7:54:14am |
Well, I have to run.
Have a great day, Lizards.
cheers
eon
| 620 |
Afrocity Sat, May 16, 2009 7:54:49am |
re: #616 HoosierHoops
Wow!
If you are in the Indy area drop me a line..I consider you a friend and you've got a friend in the Indy area..
My Nic is blue....
I have your email already and you have mine. You are one of the first lizards to welcome me. I will never forget that. This job will be near Bloomington. I am not sure about living in Indiana.
| 621 |
Kronocide Sat, May 16, 2009 7:55:12am |
OH.... DAMN! Another brilliant idea challenged by reality, within 5 posts no less. I suppose I should just go the Ministry of Information and edit some more history.
| 622 |
realwest Sat, May 16, 2009 7:55:33am |
re: #600 Afrocity
No need to thank me - you earned it!
But I gotta say I have ALWAYS been against Affirmative Action for moral reasons: it's just WRONG to discriminate against ANYONE based on Race. And I believe that most of the folks who were involved in starting Affirmative Action meant well; Democrats in the South and their effin' Jim Crow laws and literacy tests for voting and all HAD kept Black folks from the opportunity to realize the American Dream, but I still thought there ought to be a better way than to legislatively approve racial discrimination.
In this, I think the Rev's Jackson, Jackson Jr. (is he a Rev?) Sharpton and I disagree, thereby further buttressing my argument!
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jcm Sat, May 16, 2009 7:55:53am |
NYT in the tank, as usual.
In Detainee Furor, a Rare Dent in Pelosi Armor
As for the speaker, she no doubt faces a difficult period. But few think the sharp focus on the interrogation matter is a serious threat to the authority of Ms. Pelosi, a powerful figure who weathered previous Republican assaults with hardly a scratch.“It is an embarrassment,” said Ross K. Baker, an expert on Congress at Rutgers University, “and clearly nobody wants to be embarrassed, particularly a speaker of the House. But other than that, there is nothing here that threatens her job.”
Ms. Pelosi is not the only one with political exposure. Should any investigation determine that the C.I.A. misled members of Congress, the result could be severely damaging to the agency and to the Republican leaders who have relentlessly pressed the issue against Ms. Pelosi.
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Killgore Trout Sat, May 16, 2009 7:56:12am |
BNP endorses eugenics...........
The Nasty Party
On the morning of 25 February the Conservative Party announced the tragic news that Ivan Cameron, the six-year-old son of Conservative Party leader David Cameron and his wife Samantha, who suffered from cerebral palsy and epilepsy, had died. In a rare show of unity figures from across the political spectrum united to send their condolences and best wishes to the heartbroken family.
....
In a cruel and warped outburst against those who had expressed their condolences at the death of Ivan Cameron, Jeff Marshall (pictured), the central London BNP organiser, who lives in Whitechapel, wrote: “We live in a country today which is unhealthily dominated by an excess of sentimentality towards the weak and unproductive. No good will come of it.”Not content with attacking those mourning the death of a severely disabled child who brought “joy and love to those around him”, Marshall continued in his sick tirade, stating that although it would be “a kindness” to kill children with disabilities, this was not the same as advocating such a measure as compulsory state policy. “But so what if it is,” he asked. “At least we would all know where we stand. There is actually not a great deal of point in keeping these sort of people alive, after all.”
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Kenneth Sat, May 16, 2009 7:56:37am |
realwest:
Krauthammer on Pelosi: Utter Disaster
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Magalaga Ding Dong Sat, May 16, 2009 7:56:41am |
GUYS! I NEED SOME HELP REMEMBERING SOMETHING - what was the name of that guy who went from country to country dancing with the folks there?
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Walter L. Newton Sat, May 16, 2009 7:56:46am |
re: #621 BigPapa
OH.... DAMN! Another brilliant idea challenged by reality, within 5 posts no less. I suppose I should just go the Ministry of Information and edit some more history.
Ministry of Truth. Ha, you were trying to edit more history.
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Digital Display Sat, May 16, 2009 7:57:01am |
re: #606 sattv4u2
I wanted to kick his ass so bad....
but instead you hugged and scratched him, took him home and gave him treats!
He acts like he is man's best friend or something..
It's funny..I've never had a pet before..We raised 5 kids..But I can't even go pee without Winston standing guard outside the door..Just in case some shit goes down..LOL
AND CRAP! AFROCITY!
I said i blued my nic..But I didn't..It is now
| 629 |
Walter L. Newton Sat, May 16, 2009 7:57:10am |
re: #626 Magalaga Ding Dong
GUYS! I NEED SOME HELP REMEMBERING SOMETHING - what was the name of that guy who went from country to country dancing with the folks there?
Ru Paul!
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Afrocity Sat, May 16, 2009 7:57:13am |
re: #622 realwest
He is a reverend, so are most of the black leaders. It is from back in the day when only the black church could produce leaders.
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jcm Sat, May 16, 2009 7:58:24am |
re: #625 Kenneth
realwest:
Krauthammer on Pelosi: Utter Disaster
She couldn't remember her current truth....
BWAHAHAHAHA!
| 632 |
Killgore Trout Sat, May 16, 2009 8:02:12am |
God hates fags Jews.....
Militant anti-gay church turns its sights on Jews
After years of focusing on gays and lesbians with its protests, the Westboro Baptist Church has a new target - the Jewish community.The Topeka, Kan.-based church, which features the slogan "God Hates Fags," protested at three Jewish sites here last Friday afternoon. The protests are part of a series of upcoming rallies that will bring members of the church to Jewish community institutions in Omaha, St. Louis, South Florida and Providence in the next few weeks, according to the church's Web site and fliers the group is distributing that list scheduled protests and proclaim "Jews Killed the Lord Jesus."
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kansas Sat, May 16, 2009 8:02:48am |
Four months and Obama has turned on his own spending policy. That and now 1100 GM and 800 Chrysler dealers will be closed resulting the loss of at least 100,000 jobs. I guess all we can do is watch the country go down the shitter.
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Digital Display Sat, May 16, 2009 8:03:09am |
re: #620 Afrocity
I have your email already and you have mine. You are one of the first lizards to welcome me. I will never forget that. This job will be near Bloomington. I am not sure about living in Indiana.
Bloomington fucking rocks..Great place to live..Very very pretty..College town..lots of single guys..Wink.. I have some close friends who just graduated from IU that live there..And believe me..You'd love them..Good kids..
The quality of life is very high there..Get the fuck out of the rat race..
| 635 |
jcm Sat, May 16, 2009 8:03:33am |
re: #632 Killgore Trout
God hates
fagsJews.....
Militant anti-gay church turns its sights on Jews
Inbred morons.
| 636 |
Kenneth Sat, May 16, 2009 8:05:06am |
re: #632 Killgore Trout
Well that was a surprise. Not. For any hate group, it's always a short walk to Jew hating.
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realwest Sat, May 16, 2009 8:05:13am |
re: #623 jcm
“It is an embarrassment,” said Ross K. Baker, an expert on Congress at Rutgers University, “and clearly nobody wants to be embarrassed, particularly a speaker of the House. But other than that, there is nothing here that threatens her job.”
"Ms. Pelosi is not the only one with political exposure. Should any investigation determine that the C.I.A. misled members of Congress, the result could be severely damaging to the agency and to the Republican leaders who have relentlessly pressed the issue against Ms. Pelosi."
Don't ya love the way the NYTimes is able to, simultaneously, ignore the implications of the Speaker of the House, the third person in line for the Presidency, lying to the public not to mention the CIA (which as an institution does not LIKE folks who lie about them - hell, they ain't even overly fond of folks who tell the truth about 'em!) and then threatening folks for calling her on her lies?
| 638 |
Killgore Trout Sat, May 16, 2009 8:06:03am |
Swine flu is an inside job!
Swine Flu - A Zionist/American Conspiracy
| 639 |
Afrocity Sat, May 16, 2009 8:06:07am |
I will be back from time to time but only for a few minutes and during the day time when it is safe for me.
I miss some of you guys.
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jcm Sat, May 16, 2009 8:06:15am |
re: #637 realwest
“It is an embarrassment,” said Ross K. Baker, an expert on Congress at Rutgers University, “and clearly nobody wants to be embarrassed, particularly a speaker of the House. But other than that, there is nothing here that threatens her job.”
"Ms. Pelosi is not the only one with political exposure. Should any investigation determine that the C.I.A. misled members of Congress, the result could be severely damaging to the agency and to the Republican leaders who have relentlessly pressed the issue against Ms. Pelosi."
Don't ya love the way the NYTimes is able to, simultaneously, ignore the implications of the Speaker of the House, the third person in line for the Presidency, lying to the public not to mention the CIA (which as an institution does not LIKE folks who lie about them - hell, they ain't even overly fond of folks who tell the truth about 'em!) and then threatening folks for calling her on her lies?
(D) tactics, when caught attack the accuser.
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opnion Sat, May 16, 2009 8:06:52am |
re: #635 jcm
Inbred morons.
I have some clients in Topeka, they all loathe this Church.
It is hard to imagine that find supporters.
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Killgore Trout Sat, May 16, 2009 8:07:17am |
re: #636 Kenneth
I think it might also be a way to increase their appeal to the radical right. If Phelps gets mainstreamed I'll completely freak out.
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realwest Sat, May 16, 2009 8:07:29am |
re: #624 Killgore Trout
Good morning Killgore! Just wanted you to know that I reported that to Charles in the hope that he makes a thread out of it!
Don't get overly excited though, he hardly listens to me anyway!
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haakondahl Sat, May 16, 2009 8:07:58am |
re: #632 Killgore Trout
God hates
fagsJews.....
Militant anti-gay church turns its sights on Jews
It was only a matter of time. When Evil doesn't actually start with or end up at anti-Semitism, it at least pays its respects along the way.
| 645 |
Digital Display Sat, May 16, 2009 8:08:26am |
re: #639 Afrocity
I will be back from time to time but only for a few minutes and during the day time when it is safe for me.
I miss some of you guys.
Bye bye..Love the courage of your blog..email me..I'll give you my cell..
| 646 |
opnion Sat, May 16, 2009 8:09:20am |
re: #643 realwest
Good morning Killgore! Just wanted you to know that I reported that to Charles in the hope that he makes a thread out of it!
Don't get overly excited though, he hardly listens to me anyway!
What? Did you say something?
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kansas Sat, May 16, 2009 8:09:42am |
re: #632 Killgore Trout
Those people are completely insane and being from same planet as them is an embarrassment.
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kansas Sat, May 16, 2009 8:10:28am |
re: #649 kansas
Those people are completely insane and being from same planet as them is an embarrassment.
PS
Do they disprove evolution and intelligent design?
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Kenneth Sat, May 16, 2009 8:10:37am |
re: #637 realwest
Note the utter cluelessness of the NYT:
"the result could be severely damaging to the agency and to the Republican leaders who have relentlessly pressed the issue against Ms. Pelosi."
It never occurs to the partisan media that this could hurt the Democrats. In his mind, only Republicans or evil CIA agents could be lying.
| 652 |
jcm Sat, May 16, 2009 8:12:05am |
re: #641 opnion
I have some clients in Topeka, they all loathe this Church.
It is hard to imagine that find supporters.
It's about 35 members of one extended family.
Fred Phelps is a nasty piece of work.
| 653 |
Kenneth Sat, May 16, 2009 8:13:56am |
re: #642 Killgore Trout
Has Phelps ever been on Alex Jones' radio show? Now there's a marriage made in hell...
Maybe Glenn Beck can join them for a threesome
| 654 |
jcm Sat, May 16, 2009 8:14:39am |
re: #653 Kenneth
Has Phelps ever been on Alex Jones' radio show? Now there's a marriage made in hell...
Maybe Glenn Beck can join them for a threesome
BRAIN BLEACH STAT!
| 655 |
Walter L. Newton Sat, May 16, 2009 8:14:48am |
re: #642 Killgore Trout
I think it might also be a way to increase their appeal to the radical right. If Phelps gets mainstreamed I'll completely freak out.
The are just echoing what a lot of organized christian sects were saying for almost 1800 years. Islam helped after the 600's, but the church set the stage for anti-semitism.
| 656 |
opnion Sat, May 16, 2009 8:15:28am |
re: #652 jcm
It's about 35 members of one extended family.
Fred Phelps is a nasty piece of work.
Yeah, Fred is one evil, crazy hombre.
| 657 |
Digital Display Sat, May 16, 2009 8:15:38am |
It must be a lazy morning.. I miss Yma being here Saturday morning talking about our dogs...She must be off to dinner with some hot Welsh dude..
{YMA}
| 658 |
haakondahl Sat, May 16, 2009 8:16:30am |
re: #651 Kenneth
Note the utter cluelessness of the NYT:
It never occurs to the partisan media that this could hurt the Democrats. In his mind, only Republicans or evil CIA agents could be lying.
That's not cluelessness. That's calculated for effect.
| 659 |
jcm Sat, May 16, 2009 8:17:10am |
Gov. Gregoire signs executive order creating aerospace council
RENTON – Gov. Chris Gregoire today signed an executive order creating the Washington Council on Aerospace. The council will oversee state efforts to ensure that Washington remains the leading location in the world in which to design and build airplanes.
Hey! Chrissie!
How 'bout making WA State business friendly?
| 660 |
MandyManners Sat, May 16, 2009 8:17:35am |
re: #652 jcm
It's about 35 members of one extended family.
Fred Phelps is a nasty piece of work.
I can't help but wonder if there wasn't sexual abuse, too.
| 661 |
kansas Sat, May 16, 2009 8:17:52am |
re: #655 Walter L. Newton
The are just echoing what a lot of organized christian sects were saying for almost 1800 years. Islam helped after the 600's, but the church set the stage for anti-semitism.
Must have missed that in my history classes.
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jcm Sat, May 16, 2009 8:17:59am |
re: #655 Walter L. Newton
The are just echoing what a lot of organized christian sects were saying for almost 1800 years. Islam helped after the 600's, but the church set the stage for anti-semitism.
Very true. It's also incredibly ignorant.
| 663 |
jcm Sat, May 16, 2009 8:18:29am |
re: #660 MandyManners
I can't help but wonder if there wasn't sexual abuse, too.
Usually a part of this type of "clan."
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kansas Sat, May 16, 2009 8:18:48am |
re: #660 MandyManners
I can't help but wonder if there wasn't sexual abuse, too.
Phelp's son is also his grandson. You mean like that?
| 665 |
Killgore Trout Sat, May 16, 2009 8:19:38am |
re: #661 kansas
Must have missed that in my history classes.
Jews were horribly persecuted throughout European history.
| 667 |
Walter L. Newton Sat, May 16, 2009 8:20:13am |
re: #657 HoosierHoops
It must be a lazy morning.. I miss Yma being here Saturday morning talking about our dogs...She must be off to dinner with some hot Welsh dude..
{YMA}
Ok, I can add a dog story. My girlfriend has three. One is a part dingo herding sort of dog, and he loves to go "collect" people, by using moving vehicles. If mom is going to pick her kid at school, the dog will jump through an open widow to get into the car to go pick up the student.
The dog has been trying to figure out a way to get on that really big yellow vehicle, the school bus, so he can go collect all those kids at the same time.
The pup just loves riding in the car.
| 668 |
Digital Display Sat, May 16, 2009 8:20:37am |
re: #660 MandyManners
I can't help but wonder if there wasn't sexual abuse, too.
OMG Mandy..That man is sick.. From your link..
Phelps said he left home for good in 1980 after a terror-filled childhood in which Fred Phelps beat him and his siblings during outbursts of violence.
He should go to the police monday morning and file a report and put that man in jail...
| 669 |
realwest Sat, May 16, 2009 8:20:48am |
re: #635 jcm
From your link (actually Killgore's):
"In Washington, the group first picketed the funeral of former congressman Jack Kemp, and then protested outside the ADL offices, the U.S. Holocaust Memorial Museum and the city's largest synagogue, Washington Hebrew Congregation. (The group positioned itself across the street from the museum - on the edge of the National Mall - meaning that visitors to the museum that afternoon did not even necessarily see them when entering the facility.)
Margie Phelps and three fellow church members stood on the sidewalk and held signs stating that "God Hates Israel," "Jews Killed Jesus," "America Is Doomed," "Israel Is Doomed," and "ADL Jew Bullies." One of the four women had an Israeli flag tied around her waist that dragged on the ground; she stepped on the flag as she walked."
WHY oh WHY am I NEVER AROUND when stuff like that happens? I mean, I do believe in Freedom of Speech - and sometimes the most "intolerant speech" gets your cause more attention, but I also believe that in some circumstances, exercising your right to Freedom of Speech ought to have IMMEDIATE and SIGNIFICANT consequences.
| 670 |
haakondahl Sat, May 16, 2009 8:21:11am |
On the Fred Phelps thing, I hope y'all won't mind if I repost something I wrote and posted a couple of years ago. Some UCLA Professor had written a paper which amounted to anti-Semitism, and reading it just gave me a profound sinking feeling. The link to Charles' post about the article is here, and I'll put my piece up in my next comment.
| 671 |
shiplord kirel Sat, May 16, 2009 8:21:17am |
re: #642 Killgore Trout
I think it might also be a way to increase their appeal to the radical right. If Phelps gets mainstreamed I'll completely freak out.
As always, follow the money trail. My take is that the Phelpers are running low on loot and they're trying to emulate various academic and media whores by tapping into the vast bounty of petrodollar propaganda funding.
| 672 |
haakondahl Sat, May 16, 2009 8:21:28am |
13 March 2007
UCLA Prof, Harbinger
The Things I Do Not Know
I do not know why this article by UCLA literature professor Saree Makdisi hits me so hard. It hits me harder than most others which are just like it, and that is a large number, to be sure. Hatred of Jews is not in short supply these days, and articles like this one come frequently, and more frequently as time goes by.
He is not saying anything which hasn't been said before, or even recently, and he contributes nothing original to the current wave of Jew-Hatred. He is only harping on the same Neo-Nazi talking points which have made the rounds from Gaza and Jeddah to Paris and D.C. and back. The media closes the loop for this self-reinforcing putrid system of fevered beliefs, but this has not always been the case.
I do not know why the current round of Jew-Hatred has sprung up so quickly, or why it has done so now as opposed to some other time. I suppose it has to do with other global tensions, but this disease seems not to require a predicate. We might just as well pin it on the fictitious Man-Made Global Warming as on any other world syndrome--this is a phenomenon which occurs in lean times as well as fat, in peacetime as well as war, and in dictatorships as well as democracies.
It has been around as long as Jewry and Judaism have. "Anti-Semitism" is hardly a modern problem, and it does not need the 24-hr news cycle in order to spread. But that is its vector in the Western world these days. And as Jew Hatred has been around for as long as Jews have, it seems that only sometimes does it flare up, become malignant, metastasize. In our time, the media serve as gatekeepers, like it or not, of ideas admitted to the public discussion. But in this, the media re only a reflection of ourselves, of course. We are uneducated and proud, lazy and defiant, ignorant and smug, uncritical and unapologetic. We as a global society can no longer tell good sense from horseshit without somebody telling us which is which. And because the media reflect us, and because we follow the media, we have become lost. Nobody is minding the store.
Now all sorts of madness are discussed in reasonable terms, desperate battles of honorable men are debated and denigrated by cowards in places of respect, and piece by piece, each layer of our global civilization is eroded for want of maintenance, for want of defense, and exposes the layer beneath it.
The slippery slope does not lead away. It leads inward, and each time we fail to do the right thing, fail to take a risk for the sake of our way of life, fail to take a malcontent to task for disrupting the system which protects us all, we allow another of the million minor Satans to advance a step further down the slope, into our heart.
As a man goes, so goes his society. Seen individually, there are more pressing and more dire problems than "Anti-Semitism". Millions have died in North Korea, while a handful have died from Jew Hatred in the same period. Birthrates alone pose a far greater challenge to the longevity of Western Civilization than any particular ideology, no matter how malign. And in fact, the Earth may be getting hotter, say due to the Sun, and things may get quite unpleasant on this planet for every living thing.
But looking at problems individually is the recipe for failure. When humanity stops defending itself against suicidal ideas, Anti-Semitism is the vanguard. Whenever the Hatred of Jews becomes something otherwise rational people debate calmly, the entire world is in for a bad time.
I am not a Christian, or a Jew, or any other religion for that matter. I'm what you might call a "show-me" fundamentalist. But one thing my scientific outlook has shown me is that there is a Hell, it exists on Earth, it is created by man, and good people must fight evil or it will kill us all.
Using this article as a barometer, Hell is coming back.
And I don't know why.
| 673 |
Walter L. Newton Sat, May 16, 2009 8:22:21am |
re: #661 kansas
Must have missed that in my history classes.
Probably did. A lot of christian have, or else they will use the Scotsman logic "well, they weren't really christians." Yep, I guess there were millions and millions of believers who didn't realize that they weren't saved by jesus.
I guess the only "true" christians were a few holds outs on a mountain top in southern France.
| 674 |
FurryOldGuyJeans Sat, May 16, 2009 8:22:22am |
re: #659 jcm
Gov. Gregoire signs executive order creating aerospace council
Hey! Chrissie!How 'bout making WA State business friendly?
Easier to give tax breaks to businesses they can later revoke. Friendly is in the eye of the legislature.
| 675 |
realwest Sat, May 16, 2009 8:22:54am |
re: #639 Afrocity
Um, I don't follow your comment: "during the day time when it is safe for me." and my nic is in blue if you'd care to e-mail me what you mean by that.
| 676 |
irongrampa Sat, May 16, 2009 8:23:02am |
I see that Jon Huntsman has been tapped for Ambassador to China.
Obviously an attempt to appoint at least ONE person not suffering from tax problems.
| 677 |
Walter L. Newton Sat, May 16, 2009 8:23:05am |
re: #665 Killgore Trout
Jews were horribly persecuted throughout European history.
They weren't really christians, remember that Killgore. Are you trying to start something :)
| 679 |
Lincolntf Sat, May 16, 2009 8:24:31am |
re: #678 Occasional Reader
Say "Hi" to the Starship Troopers for me, will ya'?
| 680 |
Digital Display Sat, May 16, 2009 8:24:42am |
re: #667 Walter L. Newton
Ok, I can add a dog story. My girlfriend has three. One is a part dingo herding sort of dog, and he loves to go "collect" people, by using moving vehicles. If mom is going to pick her kid at school, the dog will jump through an open widow to get into the car to go pick up the student.
The dog has been trying to figure out a way to get on that really big yellow vehicle, the school bus, so he can go collect all those kids at the same time.
The pup just loves riding in the car.
LOL
I bought a doggie camera you put on his collar..It takes a picture every pre arranged time.every couple minutes...Then you down load them from a USB cable to your computer...
Funny crap..watching what Winston is doing during the day..
I wish I was a dog
| 681 |
Killgore Trout Sat, May 16, 2009 8:25:31am |
re: #677 Walter L. Newton
They weren't really christians, remember that Killgore. Are you trying to start something :)
It wasn't long ago that fights over this stuff would get really viscous here.
| 682 |
SixDegrees Sat, May 16, 2009 8:25:44am |
re: #623 jcm
NYT in the tank, as usual.
I think we should have that potentially threatening investigation; I think it's extremely important to know if the CIA is misleading members of Congress and anyone else, as Pelosi claims.
The CIA is nothing if not thorough when it comes to keeping all sorts of information on hand - meeting times and dates, lists of attendees, meeting minutes, the briefing material presented, and the backup documentation used to produce that material. I say - bring it on. If the CIA is somehow misleading anyone, the American public certainly has a right to know about the utterly massive coverup being used to fudge this mountain of supporting evidence. Let's name names, and find out exactly who knew what, and when.
| 683 |
FurryOldGuyJeans Sat, May 16, 2009 8:25:51am |
re: #620 Afrocity
I have your email already and you have mine. You are one of the first lizards to welcome me. I will never forget that. This job will be near Bloomington. I am not sure about living in Indiana.
Maybe you'll remember me anyway, beautiful lady.
Time to spread the wings and soar.
| 684 |
jcm Sat, May 16, 2009 8:26:13am |
re: #674 FurryOldGuyJeans
Easier to give tax breaks to businesses they can later revoke. Friendly is in the eye of the legislature.
I'd have to go dig it out, but about 10 years before Boeing HQ pulled out and moved to Chicago, Boeing wrote a letter to Olympia saying that WA wasn't business friendly. That Boeing only tax breaks didn't help much, all the suppliers to Boeing etc... need help.
If nothing changes, Boeing will be be a memory for WA State in 10-20 years. GA and AL will be building the planes.
I've been around WA long enough to know old timers call it Boeing's, as in the possession of Bill. We've come a long way.
| 685 |
Killgore Trout Sat, May 16, 2009 8:26:27am |
| 686 |
MandyManners Sat, May 16, 2009 8:26:27am |
| 687 |
vxbush Sat, May 16, 2009 8:26:38am |
re: #683 FurryOldGuyJeans
Maybe you'll remember me anyway, beautiful lady.
Time to spread the wings and soar.
Bloomington, Indiana, Afrocity? For some of us, that's holy ground. :D
| 688 |
jcm Sat, May 16, 2009 8:26:50am |
re: #678 Occasional Reader
Drive-by "hello" from Buenos Aires.
Live posting for the beach?
Pictures man pictures!
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kansas Sat, May 16, 2009 8:28:43am |
Walter:
You said: They are just echoing what a lot of organized christian sects were saying for almost 1800 years. Islam helped after the 600's, but the church set the stage for anti-semitism.
I said I must have missed that.
Then you said: " Probably did. A lot of christian have, or else they will use the Scotsman logic "well, they weren't really christians." Yep, I guess there were millions and millions of believers who didn't realize that they weren't saved by jesus.I guess the only "true" christians were a few holds outs on a mountain top in southern France."
I suppose I should have said, do you have any proof that there were a lot of organized christian sects say shit like these morons did for almost 1800 years? What is a lot of, and which organized sects. In my whole life I have never heard crap like comes out of that evil bunch of sickos.
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realwest Sat, May 16, 2009 8:31:04am |
re: #671 shiplord kirel
Good morning shiplord kirel! I updinged your post, but "they're trying to emulate various academic and media whores by tapping into the vast bounty of petrodollar propaganda funding." gives them WAAAAY too much credit for anything resembling intelligent thinking. I think it's more an evolution of sorts: first hate the soldiers and their families, then hate the "Jewish Cabal" that started the War. And frankly, Phelp's constant harping about "fags" makes me wonder if there isn't a little bit of projection there.
| 692 |
FurryOldGuyJeans Sat, May 16, 2009 8:31:09am |
re: #687 vxbush
Bloomington, Indiana, Afrocity? For some of us, that's holy ground. :D
Then why did you quote me, eh? ;)
| 693 |
Walter L. Newton Sat, May 16, 2009 8:31:43am |
re: #681 Killgore Trout
It wasn't long ago that fights over this stuff would get really viscous here.
They still will. It doesn't matter. It doesn't take much study to understand that most anti-semitism was fuel by the various christian sects, starting with the Roman church. Luther was a well know anti-semite.
Islam built on the existing anti-semitism, and turned it into literal doctrine. That wouldn't have been possible if the rest of the civilized world at the time didn't agree.
Nope, it's only been the last 150 years or so where the various christian sect have reexamined their stance on Jews and their relationship to the church and the world.
Even Vatican II had to address the problem. If the problem didn't exist, then how come the largest christian sect had to correct it at a major church conclave?
| 695 |
VegasRick Sat, May 16, 2009 8:31:58am |
re: #685 Killgore Trout
Killgore, I am not a RP fan at all but you sure pick out some stupid stories to try to make him look bad
"It is certainly nothing personal against Mr. Palmer. In fact, Congressman Paul admires him greatly. Dr. Paul opposes using public monies for any and all of these gold medals given to private citizens, just on principle. Not to mention, it is unconstitutional to use taxpayer dollars in this way. He even suggested on the House Floor before he voted against Rosa Parks's medal that if it meant so much to the Members of Congress, why not fund the award out of their own pockets? He pulled $100 out of his own wallet, but had no other takers. At a time like this when all budgets are stretched so thin, it seems especially inappropriate to lavish gifts like this on private citizens, as much as he may admire the individual."
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FurryOldGuyJeans Sat, May 16, 2009 8:32:16am |
re: #688 jcm
Live posting for the beach?
Pictures man pictures!
Man Pictures?!? No way! Topless woman pictures is the requirement! ;)
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jcm Sat, May 16, 2009 8:33:24am |
re: #696 FurryOldGuyJeans
Man Pictures?!? No way! Topless woman pictures is the requirement! ;)
LOL!
Whew, good catch!
| 698 |
Killgore Trout Sat, May 16, 2009 8:33:32am |
re: #695 VegasRick
Killgore, I am not a RP fan at all but you sure pick out some stupid stories to try to make him look bad
I just thought it was a funny story. Lighten up, Francis.
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FurryOldGuyJeans Sat, May 16, 2009 8:34:36am |
re: #693 Walter L. Newton
They still will. It doesn't matter. It doesn't take much study to understand that most anti-semitism was fuel by the various christian sects, starting with the Roman church. Luther was a well know anti-semite.
Islam built on the existing anti-semitism, and turned it into literal doctrine. That wouldn't have been possible if the rest of the civilized world at the time didn't agree.
Nope, it's only been the last 150 years or so where the various christian sect have reexamined their stance on Jews and their relationship to the church and the world.
Even Vatican II had to address the problem. If the problem didn't exist, then how come the largest christian sect had to correct it at a major church conclave?
Didn't JPII make amends as well? Or was that just to science and Galileo?
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realwest Sat, May 16, 2009 8:35:01am |
re: #676 irongrampa
Yeah, I can't hardly WAIT until the good Ambassador starts talking to the Chinese about Cap and Trade, seeing as how China is the nation which is the single biggest polluter on the planet.
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VegasRick Sat, May 16, 2009 8:35:07am |
re: #698 Killgore Trout
I just thought it was a funny story. Lighten up, Francis.
Shirley I must have missed the funny part.
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Walter L. Newton Sat, May 16, 2009 8:35:10am |
re: #690 kansas
Walter:
You said: They are just echoing what a lot of organized christian sects were saying for almost 1800 years. Islam helped after the 600's, but the church set the stage for anti-semitism.
I said I must have missed that.Then you said: " Probably did. A lot of christian have, or else they will use the Scotsman logic "well, they weren't really christians." Yep, I guess there were millions and millions of believers who didn't realize that they weren't saved by jesus.I guess the only "true" christians were a few holds outs on a mountain top in southern France."
I suppose I should have said, do you have any proof that there were a lot of organized christian sects say shit like these morons did for almost 1800 years? What is a lot of, and which organized sects. In my whole life I have never heard crap like comes out of that evil bunch of sickos.
Why don't you do a little research. Just because you never "heard" anyone say it, doesn't mean it didn't exist, on a very large scale. Granted, if you look at by other comments above, I go into some detail.
Yes, in the last 150 years or so, there has been a reexamining of anti-semitism and christianity, and things are slowly changing, but the whole foundation for anti-semitism from about the 3rd century on, was the church, and the church's support of the secular government and their anti-semitism.
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
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shiplord kirel Sat, May 16, 2009 8:35:35am |
Just went to the Phelpers' hate site (no link here but it's easy enough to find).
It's pretty dull stuff except for the amusingly extravagant rhetoric ("the antichrist bloody beast Obama" will become "king of the world"). The big Zero is also denounced as a Muslim, a hyporcrite and a bastard (*yawn*).
The Phelpers obviously don't care much for Muslims, anymore than for Jews or almost anyone else, but we have seen many times that the purveyors of oil-tick largesse will overlook anti-Muslim bigotry if enough Jew-hate is displayed along with it.
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Lincolntf Sat, May 16, 2009 8:37:04am |
Here's a depressing, infuriating story for those of you who haven't read it.
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Walter L. Newton Sat, May 16, 2009 8:37:14am |
re: #699 FurryOldGuyJeans
Didn't JPII make amends as well? Or was that just to science and Galileo?
Correct. I guess this never happened, and the pope and other christian leaders over the last 150 years have been apologizing for something that didn't exist.
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rightwinger3 Sat, May 16, 2009 8:37:24am |
re: #695 VegasRick
Killgore, I am not a RP fan at all but you sure pick out some stupid stories to try to make him look bad
Come on Rick, EVERYBODY is an RP fan. Admit it, you, like me, voted for RP in every LGF poll.
/
| 707 |
FurryOldGuyJeans Sat, May 16, 2009 8:37:32am |
re: #695 VegasRick
Killgore, I am not a RP fan at all but you sure pick out some stupid stories to try to make him look bad
RP is doing that all by himself, the stories just are bringing it to light.
Sad that the Right by and large is increasingly falling for the con the man is running.
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tradewind Sat, May 16, 2009 8:38:46am |
May there be many more:
Love, love, love this. On so many levels.
AI is such a bunch of d'bags.
[Link: www.breitbart.com...]
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, May 16, 2009 8:39:32am |
re: #689 jcm
In junior high school, the front tire fell off of our bus.
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tradewind Sat, May 16, 2009 8:40:07am |
re: #710 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
In the Obama administration, all four wheels are coming off the bus.
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VegasRick Sat, May 16, 2009 8:40:19am |
re: #706 rightwinger3
Come on Rick, EVERYBODY is an RP fan. Admit it, you, like me, voted for RP in every LGF poll.
/
The "What not to do" part of the story. Voted for him everytime.
| 713 |
Walter L. Newton Sat, May 16, 2009 8:40:24am |
re: #690 kansas
[Link: historicaltextarchive.com...]
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Altermite Sat, May 16, 2009 8:40:26am |
re: #711 tradewind
In the Obama administration, all four wheels are coming off the bus.
My bus had 8 wheels in school. It was a big bus.
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Digital Display Sat, May 16, 2009 8:40:26am |
re: #692 FurryOldGuyJeans
Then why did you quote me, eh? ;)
Law and Order IDBV
/innocent drive by victim
/
| 716 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, May 16, 2009 8:40:57am |
re: #711 tradewind
I sets 'em up? You knocks 'em down!
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kansas Sat, May 16, 2009 8:41:00am |
re: #702 Walter L. Newton
Well, I think we are arguing apples and oranges. I am talking about Phelps and you are talking about the history of anti-semitism in the church. Can we agree to not confuse this guy with anything other than mental illness?
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realwest Sat, May 16, 2009 8:41:04am |
re: #682 SixDegrees I agree completely. It's truly astounding to me that the CIA could give the same briefing to members of Congress, have a unanimous agreement about what that briefing was all about, and then have the CIA sneakily switch all the briefing materials and indeed, give her staff member totally different information.
I would GLADLY welcome a full and fair investigation, because this is NOT a question of someone remembering things differently than everyone else, I truly believe that this is a case of someone third in line for the Presidency LYING HER ASS OFF TO US AND TO THE CIA.
So by all means, let's have a full, fair and impartial investigation - and one that is truly transparent in nature.
| 719 |
SixDegrees Sat, May 16, 2009 8:41:25am |
re: #668 HoosierHoops
OMG Mandy..That man is sick.. From your link..
Phelps said he left home for good in 1980 after a terror-filled childhood in which Fred Phelps beat him and his siblings during outbursts of violence.He should go to the police monday morning and file a report and put that man in jail...
Phelps is a monster. But it's probably too late to file charges in this case. I don't know what the statute of limitations is for this sort of abuse, but it has probably expired. And even if it hasn't, there's no evidence other than the son's testimony - no bruises, no cuts, nothing to build a case with.
His best hope is simply to tell his story at this point. Phelps is insane; any attempt by him to refute his son will only make him look worse. He has a bad habit of spraying spittle whenever he speaks, and the accumulation of droplets on the camera lens wouldn't boost his side much.
Phelps is also obviously trying to boost his own self-image by asserting control over whoever is within his reach, be it his own family or his followers. The one thing he cannot abide is being ignored. He not only craves attention - he desperately needs it in order to validate himself. The best response to Phelps, the most destructing thing anyone can do to him, is to turn their back on him and walk away.
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tradewind Sat, May 16, 2009 8:42:15am |
re: #714 Altermite
But the BHO bus was underpowered from the get-go, and poorly equipped. Its design was chosen by the union employees, not management, so therefore deeply flawed.
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MandyManners Sat, May 16, 2009 8:42:30am |
Seven Native Americans who allege the Redskins football trademark is disparaging lost their trademark case against the NFL team today in the appeals court, which found there was too great a delay between when the Redskins mark was registered and when it was first challenged. Click here for a copy of the opinion.
The appeals court, in an opinion written by Judge David Tatel, did not explore the merits of the claim. Instead, the court ruled the Redskins defense of laches—that the team suffered trial and economic prejudice because of the delay in challenging the mark—is justified.
SNIP
| 723 |
FurryOldGuyJeans Sat, May 16, 2009 8:42:43am |
re: #700 realwest
Yeah, I can't hardly WAIT until the good Ambassador starts talking to the Chinese about Cap and Trade, seeing as how China is the nation which is the single biggest polluter on the planet.
They are also the largest holder of US Debt, so speaking "Truth to Power" won't happen because if the Chinese stop buying our debt O wouldn't be able to indenture further generations more than they already are with all this failed stimulus.
Push enough and the Chinese might actually call in the debt now. But then who else would buy all the worthless crap they make?
| 724 |
opnion Sat, May 16, 2009 8:42:45am |
re: #705 Walter L. Newton
Correct. I guess this never happened, and the pope and other christian leaders over the last 150 years have been apologizing for something that didn't exist.
Walter, wasn't the anti Semitism in Islam born from the Jews in Medina rejecting Mohammad & his new religion?
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NelsFree Sat, May 16, 2009 8:42:59am |
Good morning all,
I was out in the back snagging dragonflies with my prehensile tongue and thought I'd "way in" on a thread. So I made my "way in" to the house, and saw it was about nonsense, or foolishness. That reminded me of a quote in the Bible, New International Version. 2nd Corinthians, Chapter 11, verse 1. Paul writes:
"I hope you will put up with a little of my foolishness, but you are already doing that."
I should mention that it was the Apostle Paul, no relation to Ron.
My reading and understanding of the Bible is that Christians are instructed to go forth and preach the Gospel. There have been times when Christianity has been forced on people. I do not believe that these were truly in accordance with Biblical principles. I cannot find passages where inflicting violence on Jews or anyone else is justified. God will punish those whom He deems worthy of it. We humans can only offer peace through salvation.
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Altermite Sat, May 16, 2009 8:43:08am |
re: #717 kansas
Well, I think we are arguing apples and oranges. I am talking about Phelps and you are talking about the history of anti-semitism in the church. Can we agree to not confuse this guy with anything other than mental illness?
Being a gigantic ass doesn't make him mentally ill. Now, mental illness may play a part in the extremism of his beliefs, but those beliefs have some pretty deep roots, which seems to be what Walter is getting at.
| 727 |
tradewind Sat, May 16, 2009 8:43:22am |
re: #721 MandyManners
They could have changed it to the Washington ThinSkins....
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MandyManners Sat, May 16, 2009 8:43:32am |
re: #717 kansas
Well, I think we are arguing apples and oranges. I am talking about Phelps and you are talking about the history of anti-semitism in the church. Can we agree to not confuse this guy with anything other than mental illness?
A severe case of malignant narcissism and codependency.
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VegasRick Sat, May 16, 2009 8:43:41am |
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pingjockey Sat, May 16, 2009 8:44:31am |
Mornin' folks from a sunny North Central Wa state.
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Walter L. Newton Sat, May 16, 2009 8:45:53am |
re: #717 kansas
Well, I think we are arguing apples and oranges. I am talking about Phelps and you are talking about the history of anti-semitism in the church. Can we agree to not confuse this guy with anything other than mental illness?
Sure the guy is mentally ill. He has a pathological hatred for a number of groups and people. But, he didn't pull that hatred out of his butt. He is an extreme fundamentalist, and what he believes come from a long history of anti-this and anti-that, including anti-semitism which was a given among most christians for many many years.
Phelps may be a part of a dying breed, but, he is a prime historical example of what fuel a much larger hatred for century after century.
I'm sorry Kanas, I cannot separate the two.
| 732 |
VegasRick Sat, May 16, 2009 8:46:37am |
| 733 |
Digital Display Sat, May 16, 2009 8:46:41am |
re: #730 pingjockey
Mornin' folks from a sunny North Central Wa state.
Good morning from overcast Indiana..Weather sucks..We don't race cars really freeking fast when it is raining and overcast..Drying the track now
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NelsFree Sat, May 16, 2009 8:47:16am |
re: #681 Killgore Trout
It wasn't long ago that fights over this stuff would get really viscous here.
The viscosity would mire us all down. Thank Heaven for the API viscosimeter!
[Link: www.api.org...]
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pingjockey Sat, May 16, 2009 8:47:50am |
re: #733 HoosierHoops
Crap. Time trials. Can't go 200mph with a wet track.
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MandyManners Sat, May 16, 2009 8:48:11am |
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DEZes Sat, May 16, 2009 8:48:18am |
re: #733 HoosierHoops
Good morning from overcast Indiana..Weather sucks..We don't race cars really freeking fast when it is raining and overcast..Drying the track now
Morning Hoops, who's your pick for the 500?
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Steffan Sat, May 16, 2009 8:48:23am |
re: #434 dingleB
Did you ever get the chance to jump out of a OV-10 Bronco as a pathfinder? We could only get a stick of 4 in the bird, and whomever was on the TeamO's shitlist was the first one out.
I wasn't one, nor did I play one on TV, but I knew a few.
Very good people to have on your side.
| 739 |
FurryOldGuyJeans Sat, May 16, 2009 8:48:30am |
re: #717 kansas
Well, I think we are arguing apples and oranges. I am talking about Phelps and you are talking about the history of anti-semitism in the church. Can we agree to not confuse this guy with anything other than mental illness?
Phelps is just an heir to nearly two millennia of organized scapegoating.
| 740 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, May 16, 2009 8:48:42am |
Anybody watching NASA TV? Just putting a screw in is amazing to watch.
| 741 |
Lincolntf Sat, May 16, 2009 8:48:59am |
re: #735 pingjockey
Sure ya' can! (Just don't try to turn...)
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Walter L. Newton Sat, May 16, 2009 8:49:03am |
re: #724 opnion
Walter, wasn't the anti Semitism in Islam born from the Jews in Medina rejecting Mohammad & his new religion?
I never stated a start, I said Islam built on the existing anti-semitism. That may have been Islam's jumping off point, but Islam was not going to get any Christian disagreeing with them at the time.
| 743 |
Walter L. Newton Sat, May 16, 2009 8:49:40am |
re: #726 Altermite
Being a gigantic ass doesn't make him mentally ill. Now, mental illness may play a part in the extremism of his beliefs, but those beliefs have some pretty deep roots, which seems to be what Walter is getting at.
That's exactly what I am getting at.
| 744 |
Killgore Trout Sat, May 16, 2009 8:49:47am |
re: #734 NelsFree
Damn that automatic spell checker. Heh.
| 745 |
FurryOldGuyJeans Sat, May 16, 2009 8:49:57am |
re: #730 pingjockey
Mornin' folks from a sunny North Central Wa state.
Unusual, ain't it? Same here in the South Sound, sunny and getting warm.
Almost summer and finally spring arrives.
| 748 |
VegasRick Sat, May 16, 2009 8:51:06am |
re: #727 tradewind
They could have changed it to the Washington ThinSkins....
Bawney Fwanks voted for the name "Washington Teabaggers".
| 749 |
tradewind Sat, May 16, 2009 8:51:25am |
re: #689 jcm
When I had been flying for only a couple of months, I worked a hop that still used Convair 880 turboprop aircraft. We had to feather one engine (it caught fire) which was actually not such a big deal, but while I was reassuring the px, one of them whipped out a camera and started filming. When we landed, nada.. no reporters, no press. I can't tell you how many prepared cabins, engine shut dowqns, and in flight searches for bombs went totally unreported in the eighties and early nineties. I can remember landing in New Orleans once with a foamed runway and stuck gear on a 727, and no press. Something happened in the nineties that started the media frenzy for airline ' emergencies' that aren't, and I'm not sure exactly what it was.
| 750 |
MandyManners Sat, May 16, 2009 8:51:50am |
I gave The Kid a dose of the new medicine. Should be interesting in about 30 minutes.
| 751 |
kansas Sat, May 16, 2009 8:52:16am |
re: #731 Walter L. Newton
Sure the guy is mentally ill. He has a pathological hatred for a number of groups and people. But, he didn't pull that hatred out of his butt. He is an extreme fundamentalist, and what he believes come from a long history of anti-this and anti-that, including anti-semitism which was a given among most christians for many many years.
Phelps may be a part of a dying breed, but, he is a prime historical example of what fuel a much larger hatred for century after century.
I'm sorry Kanas, I cannot separate the two.
Maybe so. I just cringe when he pokes his slimy head out the sewer where it resides. Plus, he's from my state and the simple association is disturbing. Maybe he didn't pull all of the hatred from his butt, however I suspect that orifice and what he would like to have done with it has something to do with it.
| 752 |
pingjockey Sat, May 16, 2009 8:52:24am |
re: #745 FurryOldGuyJeans
We still haven't had any major runoff to speak of. The river rafters and kayakers aren't happy. Supposed to be 88 tomorrow and 91 Monday.
Mornin' Rightside.
| 753 |
Spare O'Lake Sat, May 16, 2009 8:52:25am |
re: #731 Walter L. Newton
Sure the guy is mentally ill. He has a pathological hatred for a number of groups and people. But, he didn't pull that hatred out of his butt. He is an extreme fundamentalist, and what he believes come from a long history of anti-this and anti-that, including anti-semitism which was a given among most christians for many many years.
Phelps may be a part of a dying breed, but, he is a prime historical example of what fuel a much larger hatred for century after century.
I'm sorry Kanas, I cannot separate the two.
In this day and age we are all quick to classify every vile form of behaviour as a mental illness of some kind.
But anti-semitism is not a mental illness. It is a culturally-transmitted attitude, which is learned by children from media, parents, siblings, peers, teachers, clergy and politicians.
| 754 |
FurryOldGuyJeans Sat, May 16, 2009 8:52:41am |
re: #750 MandyManners
I gave The Kid a dose of the new medicine. Should be interesting in about 30 minutes.
You still getting the vapors over the hunky neighbor?
| 755 |
tradewind Sat, May 16, 2009 8:52:49am |
re: #748 VegasRick
.....Brain bleach.....
On second thought, when Barney's involved, make it actual bleach.
| 756 |
kansas Sat, May 16, 2009 8:53:10am |
OT
Isn't this rich? Rove to testify about the firing of the US Attorneys while headline on MSNBC.
"Obama to oust group of U.S. attorneys"
| 757 |
Digital Display Sat, May 16, 2009 8:53:31am |
re: #737 DEZes
Morning Hoops, who's your pick for the 500?
The thing about Indy...And i live in the country and drive a back road to the track in a half an hour.I love em all! It is so much fun hanging at the track..I like marco..Danica..When you see what they do in person..it takes your breathe away...
| 758 |
NelsFree Sat, May 16, 2009 8:53:43am |
re: #742 Walter L. Newton
I never stated a start, I said Islam built on the existing anti-semitism. That may have been Islam's jumping off point, but Islam was not going to get any Christian disagreeing with them at the time.
Dear Walter,
Your last statement sounds a lot like a straw man arguement. How many Christians from the 7th Century were you able to poll to make that determination? Could you provide some basis for justifying your statement?
| 760 |
Walter L. Newton Sat, May 16, 2009 8:53:49am |
And anyone down dinging mine or any other Lizards comments about christianity and anti-semitism (which is happening), just a thought. Down dinging is not going to change the truth of history.
Facts are facts, and down dinging will not make it go away. Maybe paying attention to the facts and understanding that we need to be careful that we don't make these mistakes again is more productive then down dinging a comment on LGF.
| 762 |
MandyManners Sat, May 16, 2009 8:54:23am |
re: #754 FurryOldGuyJeans
You still getting the vapors over the hunky neighbor?
Only when I think of him.
| 763 |
tradewind Sat, May 16, 2009 8:54:39am |
re: #718 realwest
What the heck is Bob Graham's deal with Pelosi? He has to owe her something.......
| 764 |
realwest Sat, May 16, 2009 8:54:49am |
re: #704 Lincolntf Just fucking great. Kills a cop while trying to escape from police custody and is only convicted of manslaughter. Not murder. Not attemped escape.
It's truly sickening to me.
And I'm constantly amazed at the restraint LEO's show when they "arrest" scum like this instead of taking 'em out on the spot in what would HAVE to be justifiable homocide - it happened INSIDE A POLICE STATION for cryin' out loud; the murderer had a gun and had just shot a police officer and the other cops "disarmed him and arrested him ".
They are so much braver than I'll ever be.
| 765 |
Walter L. Newton Sat, May 16, 2009 8:55:23am |
re: #758 NelsFree
Dear Walter,
Your last statement sounds a lot like a straw man arguement. How many Christians from the 7th Century were you able to poll to make that determination? Could you provide some basis for justifying your statement?
Oh come on, see my comments above with links. Do a little research. You can't be serious?
| 766 |
FurryOldGuyJeans Sat, May 16, 2009 8:55:36am |
re: #762 MandyManners
Only when I think of him.
You got it bad, girl, you got it bad. ;)
Hope the Kid starts feeling better real soon.
| 767 |
MandyManners Sat, May 16, 2009 8:56:07am |
| 768 |
opnion Sat, May 16, 2009 8:56:21am |
re: #742 Walter L. Newton
I never stated a start, I said Islam built on the existing anti-semitism. That may have been Islam's jumping off point, but Islam was not going to get any Christian disagreeing with them at the time.
Not arguing that, but as I understand it , the Prophet thought that Jews would join him in his anti western religion & became infuriated when they didn't. That is when he strated taking slaves & executing.
Your point about the rampant anti semitism is well taken.
| 769 |
Steffan Sat, May 16, 2009 8:56:47am |
re: #444 Iron Fist
It is interesting that he seems to be doing this with, if not malice aforethought, then with his eyes wide open to the fact that he is following a policy that will be harmful to the economy. I'll admit I am afraid of the direction we are going in. I am especially worried about inflation. I'm old enough to remember Carter, and how disasterous his economic policy was.
Well, we know beyond a doubt that he is not a student of history.
Ten minutes' research would show him where he's going wrong, but he hasn't and won't do that research.
The way this is going, 2010 will be 1994 redux.
| 770 |
Walter L. Newton Sat, May 16, 2009 8:57:21am |
re: #758 NelsFree
re: #713 Walter L. Newton
[Link: historicaltextarchive.com...]
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
| 771 |
VegasRick Sat, May 16, 2009 8:57:51am |
re: #756 kansas
OT
Isn't this rich? Rove to testify about the firing of the US Attorneys while headline on MSNBC.
"Obama to oust group of U.S. attorneys"
Damn! Where is Avani and/or Cognito when you need them to explain all of this to us!
/
| 772 |
jcm Sat, May 16, 2009 8:57:56am |
re: #749 tradewind
When I had been flying for only a couple of months, I worked a hop that still used Convair 880 turboprop aircraft. We had to feather one engine (it caught fire) which was actually not such a big deal, but while I was reassuring the px, one of them whipped out a camera and started filming. When we landed, nada.. no reporters, no press. I can't tell you how many prepared cabins, engine shut dowqns, and in flight searches for bombs went totally unreported in the eighties and early nineties. I can remember landing in New Orleans once with a foamed runway and stuck gear on a 727, and no press. Something happened in the nineties that started the media frenzy for airline ' emergencies' that aren't, and I'm not sure exactly what it was.
Media likes to play up the fear. Remember that wall to wall coverage of that plane with the stuck nose wheel in LA a couple years ago.
Two or three hours of "it could turn into a flaming fire ball."
Then a professionally executed emergency landing.
| 773 |
MandyManners Sat, May 16, 2009 8:58:01am |
re: #766 FurryOldGuyJeans
You got it bad, girl, you got it bad. ;)
Hope the Kid starts feeling better real soon.
He's not sick. I'm working with his doctor on his ADHD.
| 775 |
Walter L. Newton Sat, May 16, 2009 8:58:52am |
re: #768 opnion
Not arguing that, but as I understand it , the Prophet thought that Jews would join him in his anti western religion & became infuriated when they didn't. That is when he strated taking slaves & executing.
Your point about the rampant anti semitism is well taken.
Ok, I agree with your premise.
My point about rampant anti-semitism is not well taken by all. I'm getting down dinged for almost every post.
Won't change facts.
| 776 |
pingjockey Sat, May 16, 2009 8:58:56am |
re: #771 VegasRick
These are Bush appointees and as such are racist, bigoted homophobes and must be thrown out! ////
| 777 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, May 16, 2009 8:59:37am |
| 778 |
MandyManners Sat, May 16, 2009 8:59:45am |
| 779 |
Killgore Trout Sat, May 16, 2009 8:59:59am |
Hmmmm....Hot Air posted a really lousy article from one of their new reader/editors on the front page titled "The Instruments of Wealth and how to destroy them". There's so much bad financial information out there from even reliable sources that it bums me out that Hot Air is promoting this crap from some random guy on the internet.
Hot Air is the last remaining "conservative" blog that I still read and take somewhat seriously but if this keeps up I'll have to get rid of them. What a drag.
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kansas Sat, May 16, 2009 9:00:39am |
re: #777 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
You are always an up-ding in my heart.
heh
You and Walter keep talking about dingers and people are gonna start to wonder.
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Walter L. Newton Sat, May 16, 2009 9:01:09am |
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pingjockey Sat, May 16, 2009 9:01:10am |
re: #773 MandyManners
Mandy, who did his diagnoses? My kids school try to say my middle boy now 15 was ADHD, he was just a normal 9 yr old. My prayers that things work out ok.
| 783 |
Shug Sat, May 16, 2009 9:01:16am |
Rules of flying
Fighter pilot don't like rules. It's all they can do to memorize these:
1 Flying isn't dangerous. Crashing is dangerous.
2 Takeoff is optional. Landing is mandatory.
3 If you push the stick forward, the houses get bigger. If you pull the stick back, they get smaller. If you keep pulling the stick back, they get bigger again.
.
4 The only time you have too much fuel is when you're on fire.
5 The motor runs the air conditioning. If it stops, expect to start sweating.
6 When in doubt, hold your altitude. No one has yet collided with the sky.
7 A good landing is one you can walk away from. A great landing is one where the aircraft is still useable.
8 If it takes full power to taxi to the ramp you've landed gear up.
9 The probability of survival is inversely proportional to the angle of arrival. Large angle of arrival, small probability of survival and vice versa.
10 It's best if your number of landings equals your number of takeoffs.
11 You start with a full bag of luck and an empty bag of experience. The trick is to fill the bag of experience before you empty the bag of luck.
12 In skirmishes between objects made of aluminum going hundreds of miles per hour and the ground going zero miles per hour, the ground has yet to lose.
13 Good judgment comes from experience. Experience comes from bad judgment.
14 Keep the pointy end going forward.
15 Gravity is not just a good idea. It's the law.
16 The three most useless things to a pilot are the altitude above you, the runway behind you, and a tenth of a second ago
17 It's better to be down here wishing you were up there than up there wishing you were down here
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realwest Sat, May 16, 2009 9:01:44am |
re: #723 FurryOldGuyJeans
Well just think how much the Chinese must love Obama's plans for the US to go green - further weakening an economy that the Chinese economy desperately needs.
And again, as I mentioned up thread, just how thrilled will the Chinese be when Moodys downgrades United States Treasury Bonds to double A (at best) from Triple A, making their existing holdings worth even less.
| 785 |
Walter L. Newton Sat, May 16, 2009 9:01:55am |
re: #780 kansas
You and Walter keep talking about dingers and people are gonna start to wonder.
"Ding, bloody dong." (a line from our current show).
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VegasRick Sat, May 16, 2009 9:02:11am |
re: #776 pingjockey
These are Bush appointees and as such are racist, bigoted homophobes and must be thrown out! ////
You forgot evil, cunning, raping, pillaging, murdering devils.
/
| 787 |
Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, May 16, 2009 9:02:20am |
re: #773 MandyManners
Mandy? One of the downsides for me for ADD meds is, I get kinda... well... bitchy. I get very impatient with other people. When I first started using the meds, wife (and kids) would stay the hell away from me.
Not a side effect, just shortened my fuse dramatically. May do the same kind of thing with The Kid.
| 788 |
Killgore Trout Sat, May 16, 2009 9:03:06am |
Rand Paul: Ron Paul's Son or Clone?
Disappointed soldiers in the Ron Paul Revolution, take heart. Your leader may have been defeated in '08, but He was not vanquished. For He hath given unto you a Son to continue His work.
And He shall be called Rand Paul. And He shall run for U.S. Senate in Kentucky. And He shall have gloriously curly locks of salt-and-pepper hair that shall drip with the oil that shall fuel a libertarian uprising!
And Rachel Maddow scored an interview with Him last night.
(You'll have to wade through some not-completely un-entertaining stuff involving Roberta McCain, Rush Limbaugh and Charlie Crist, but the Rand Paul interview begins at around the 3:15 mark.)
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opnion Sat, May 16, 2009 9:03:30am |
re: #775 Walter L. Newton
Ok, I agree with your premise.
My point about rampant anti-semitism is not well taken by all. I'm getting down dinged for almost every post.
Won't change facts.
You are historically accurate, unfortunately.
To me anti semiticism seems to go dormant & then reemerge in cycles.
The latest manifestation in the West does not seem to be driven by low lifes like Phelps. It now seems to be driven by Liberal academics & others of the "enlightened" class.
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CyanSnowHawk Sat, May 16, 2009 9:04:30am |
re: #782 pingjockey
Mandy, who did his diagnoses? My kids school try to say my middle boy now 15 was ADHD, he was just a normal 9 yr old. My prayers that things work out ok.
It's criminal how over-diagnosed ADHD is. It does a true disservice to those that really do have it and need help.
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pingjockey Sat, May 16, 2009 9:04:41am |
re: #775 Walter L. Newton
Walter, IIRC, the Islamists and MOST Christian churches were anti Jewish for centuries. The islamists still are of course, but hasn't the Christian accomodation with the Jews been a fairly (100 yrs) recent development?
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Altermite Sat, May 16, 2009 9:04:53am |
re: #787 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Mandy? One of the downsides for me for ADD meds is, I get kinda... well... bitchy. I get very impatient with other people. When I first started using the meds, wife (and kids) would stay the hell away from me.
Not a side effect, just shortened my fuse dramatically. May do the same kind of thing with The Kid.
I had the same issue. I mellowed out drastically when I stopped taking them once I graduated high school. School wasn't as easy, but I became way more civil, and friends became easier instead. Possible, really.
| 793 |
realwest Sat, May 16, 2009 9:05:15am |
re: #730 pingjockey
Good morning Ping! Hope you're well today - btw, did you happen to see my #471 from the previous thread before you turned in for the night?
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Kronocide Sat, May 16, 2009 9:06:48am |
re: #685 Killgore Trout
Arnie is a great golfer and a great man. I don't know how I would have voted on this one, but I'm with RP on this one. For once. RP!
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MandyManners Sat, May 16, 2009 9:07:07am |
re: #787 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Mandy? One of the downsides for me for ADD meds is, I get kinda... well... bitchy. I get very impatient with other people. When I first started using the meds, wife (and kids) would stay the hell away from me.
Not a side effect, just shortened my fuse dramatically. May do the same kind of thing with The Kid.
Adderall?
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Walter L. Newton Sat, May 16, 2009 9:07:08am |
re: #789 opnion
You are historically accurate, unfortunately.
To me anti semiticism seems to go dormant & then reemerge in cycles.
The latest manifestation in the West does not seem to be driven by low lifes like Phelps. It now seems to be driven by Liberal academics & others of the "enlightened" class.
Yep.
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VegasRick Sat, May 16, 2009 9:07:57am |
re: #788 Killgore Trout
"And Rachel Maddow scored an interview with Him last night."
And Rachel Maddow scored an interview with Him last night.
Oh wait!
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FurryOldGuyJeans Sat, May 16, 2009 9:08:06am |
re: #784 realwest
Well just think how much the Chinese must love Obama's plans for the US to go green - further weakening an economy that the Chinese economy desperately needs.
And again, as I mentioned up thread, just how thrilled will the Chinese be when Moodys downgrades United States Treasury Bonds to double A (at best) from Triple A, making their existing holdings worth even less.
Or what they thought of the "Buy American" do-nothing-feel-good proposal?
The devalued US debt holdings won't sting so bad if this happens:
China's yuan 'set to usurp US dollar' as world's reserve currency
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Altermite Sat, May 16, 2009 9:08:26am |
re: #789 opnion
You are historically accurate, unfortunately.
To me anti semiticism seems to go dormant & then reemerge in cycles.
The latest manifestation in the West does not seem to be driven by low lifes like Phelps. It now seems to be driven by Liberal academics & others of the "enlightened" class.
As someone who likes to think of himself as both a liberal and an academic, I have to disagree. 'liberal academics' should not be bunched into the same group- most of them honestly don't agree with eachother on most issues. Even if they were, they are hardly the sole cause- or even main cause- of anti semitism in the west. Our current example, Phelps, is a far cry from a liberal academic.
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realwest Sat, May 16, 2009 9:08:38am |
re: #739 FurryOldGuyJeans
"Phelps is just an heir to nearly two millennia of organized scapegoating."
I'm astounded at that comment. Phelps is certifiably insane and leader of what is, at best, a cult made up of mostly family members. He is most certainly not an heir to Christianity.
| 804 |
Walter L. Newton Sat, May 16, 2009 9:09:21am |
re: #791 pingjockey
Walter, IIRC, the Islamists and MOST Christian churches were anti Jewish for centuries. The islamists still are of course, but hasn't the Christian accomodation with the Jews been a fairly (100 yrs) recent development?
Yes, and that's what I have been saying in my thread of comments above on this subject.
| 805 |
Steffan Sat, May 16, 2009 9:09:36am |
re: #455 sattv4u2
Every time I engage in some physical activity, the next morning reminds me how old I really am!
Just remember, the alternative to growing old is really depressing.
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tradewind Sat, May 16, 2009 9:10:45am |
re: #783 Shug
#3.....unless you're in a stall, when you wanna shove it forward
#4....or when you need to land prematurely, such as right after takeoff, then the excess is, well, a liability..
#5 That's what APU's are for....
#10... not really... you probably should have a good number of go-arounds under your belt...
:)
I love exceptions.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sat, May 16, 2009 9:10:52am |
re: #798 MandyManners
Naw. I take Ritalin. But the effect would be the same. When I am focused, I am FOCUSED and wonder why everyone else is a complete scatter-brained idiot.
I take about 20 pills a year. Only take it when I need to focus (special situations where I need to be less creative, more task oriented).
It changes everything about who I am... class clown turns into mechanical engineer.
| 808 |
pingjockey Sat, May 16, 2009 9:11:04am |
re: #804 Walter L. Newton
And folks are taking issue with that?
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Walter L. Newton Sat, May 16, 2009 9:11:11am |
re: #803 realwest
"Phelps is just an heir to nearly two millennia of organized scapegoating."
I'm astounded at that comment. Phelps is certifiably insane and leader of what is, at best, a cult made up of mostly family members. He is most certainly not an heir to Christianity.
There we go, I was waiting for the Scotsman logic. Yep, they aren't really christians, the 1800 years or so of christian inspired anti-semitism wasn't really concocted by real christians.
| 810 |
FurryOldGuyJeans Sat, May 16, 2009 9:11:19am |
re: #803 realwest
"Phelps is just an heir to nearly two millennia of organized scapegoating."
I'm astounded at that comment. Phelps is certifiably insane and leader of what is, at best, a cult made up of mostly family members. He is most certainly not an heir to Christianity.
I didn't say he is an heir to Christianity, I said he is an heir to organized scapegoating, i.e. anti-Semitism.
| 811 |
pingjockey Sat, May 16, 2009 9:12:49am |
re: #809 Walter L. Newton
"If it isn't Scottish...It's CRAP"!
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reine.de.tout Sat, May 16, 2009 9:12:51am |
re: #809 Walter L. Newton
There we go, I was waiting for the Scotsman logic. Yep, they aren't really christians, the 1800 years or so of christian inspired anti-semitism wasn't really concocted by real christians.
I didn't read Realwest's comment that way.
I thought was he was saying was simply that Phelps and his crew (all 2 of 'em) don't have much influence in the current world of "Christianity".
| 813 |
FurryOldGuyJeans Sat, May 16, 2009 9:13:04am |
re: #808 pingjockey
And folks are taking issue with that?
At least two are taking issue by downdinging.
| 814 |
Walter L. Newton Sat, May 16, 2009 9:13:32am |
re: #808 pingjockey
And folks are taking issue with that?
Look at some of the comments related to mine above, and also check out the down dings I have been getting.
If you want, I really am not trying to bait anyone or rattle any cages. The topic of Phelps came up above, I made an observation about the history of anti-semitism, and not everyone agrees.
It's not something to make a big issue over, since it's historical fact, and no amount of disagreement or down dinging will negate it.
| 815 |
opnion Sat, May 16, 2009 9:13:54am |
re: #802 Altermite
As someone who likes to think of himself as both a liberal and an academic, I have to disagree. 'liberal academics' should not be bunched into the same group- most of them honestly don't agree with eachother on most issues. Even if they were, they are hardly the sole cause- or even main cause- of anti semitism in the west. Our current example, Phelps, is a far cry from a liberal academic.
My intent was not to smear all liberal academics. However a lot of the anti semitism comes from that quarter. They tie it all in with Israel & segue to Jews in general. I have seen it.
| 816 |
Killgore Trout Sat, May 16, 2009 9:14:01am |
re: #800 VegasRick
It's interesting to watch the lefties happily pushing the Republicans into Ron Paul land.
| 817 |
NelsFree Sat, May 16, 2009 9:14:18am |
re: #765 Walter L. Newton
Oh come on, see my comments above with links. Do a little research. You can't be serious?
My Dear Friend Walter,
I did a carefule search of your comments, and found no links. I have done research about the founding of Islam. Mohammed initially tried to convince the Jews that his revelations were supercedant to the Torah. Christians were also approached by the Companions about the "Final" prophet and his revelations superceding the Bible. Mo's anger against the Jews was significant, while troubles between Christians and Jews in the Arabian Peninsula during the 7th century were minimal.
It is my opinion that you have not sufficiently justified your position. So, that's my opinion. Allow my to close with another Biblical passage. 2nd Chronicles, Chapter 7, verse 3:
"He (God) is good, and his love endures forever".
I hope that you can spread God's love around.
Sincerely,
NelsFree
| 818 |
realwest Sat, May 16, 2009 9:14:26am |
re: #796 pingjockey Well it's hard for me to say; I did write it in response to something you said.
| 819 |
pingjockey Sat, May 16, 2009 9:14:42am |
RW, did read your post about the Tea Parties. I suspect that the good folks will get tired of the opportunists taking advantage and didinvite the lunatic fringe...I hope.
| 820 |
Walter L. Newton Sat, May 16, 2009 9:14:58am |
re: #816 Killgore Trout
It's interesting to watch the lefties happily pushing the Republicans into Ron Paul land.
Killgore, you have Ron Paul on the brain this morning. Can you talk about something different for a few comments, like the Tea Party or something :)
| 822 |
VegasRick Sat, May 16, 2009 9:16:17am |
re: #816 Killgore Trout
It's interesting to watch the lefties happily pushing the Republicans into Ron Paul land.
Yep. I am hoping that the dems go with howard scream next time around.
/
| 823 |
Walter L. Newton Sat, May 16, 2009 9:16:21am |
| 824 |
FurryOldGuyJeans Sat, May 16, 2009 9:16:36am |
re: #816 Killgore Trout
It's interesting to watch the lefties happily pushing the Republicans into Ron Paul land.
And many are willingly not putting up any fuss.
| 825 |
realwest Sat, May 16, 2009 9:17:12am |
re: #801 FurryOldGuyJeans
Yep but that story's been kicked around pretty well by economic folks who actually know what they are talking about; that story presumes that the Yuan will at some point be pegged to China's economic well being (sorta like the US Treasury Bonds) and that's not apt to happen until AFTER the US gets out of the economic depression it's in.
| 826 |
FurryOldGuyJeans Sat, May 16, 2009 9:17:41am |
re: #820 Walter L. Newton
Killgore, you have Ron Paul on the brain this morning. Can you talk about something different for a few comments, like the Tea Party or something :)
Heaven forbid he actually comment on Phelps. ;)
| 827 |
pingjockey Sat, May 16, 2009 9:17:51am |
| 828 |
Walter L. Newton Sat, May 16, 2009 9:17:55am |
re: #817 NelsFree
My Dear Friend Walter,
I did a carefule search of your comments, and found no links. I have done research about the founding of Islam. Mohammed initially tried to convince the Jews that his revelations were supercedant to the Torah. Christians were also approached by the Companions about the "Final" prophet and his revelations superceding the Bible. Mo's anger against the Jews was significant, while troubles between Christians and Jews in the Arabian Peninsula during the 7th century were minimal.
It is my opinion that you have not sufficiently justified your position. So, that's my opinion. Allow my to close with another Biblical passage. 2nd Chronicles, Chapter 7, verse 3:
"He (God) is good, and his love endures forever".
I hope that you can spread God's love around.Sincerely,
NelsFree
Your research of my comments weren't very careful. See my #770 with links, just for you.
And you can give me all the scripture you want, it's not going to negate the history of christianity and anti-semitism.
Sorry. Checkmate.
| 829 |
Desert Dog Sat, May 16, 2009 9:18:23am |
re: #820 Walter L. Newton
Killgore, you have Ron Paul on the brain this morning. Can you talk about something different for a few comments, like the Tea Party or something :)
This just in, the Republican party has closed down. Please refer all calls to Ron Paul, Right wing extremists, abortion clinic bombers, creationist & ID nuts and/or neo-Nazis.
There are no "good" conservatives left. (Pssst - they are hiding in fear or have "jumped ship to oh-so-progressive Dems")
/Killgore's wet dream
| 830 |
Walter L. Newton Sat, May 16, 2009 9:18:46am |
| 831 |
Kronocide Sat, May 16, 2009 9:19:29am |
re: #824 FurryOldGuyJeans
And many are willingly not putting up any fuss.
I stand against Ron Paul with all effort. He hates Arnold Palmer!
| 832 |
realwest Sat, May 16, 2009 9:19:40am |
re: #809 Walter L. Newton
EXCUSE ME. We are talking about TODAY Walter. And to say that Phelps represents Christianity today in any way shape or form is not the "Scotsmans Logic" (which btw, is a logical fallacy because it only can be used with people who believe in SOMETHING.).
| 833 |
pingjockey Sat, May 16, 2009 9:19:48am |
Phred Phelps and his ilk hate everyone not of their cult. Have run into them at a couple of funerals. Not nice people.
| 834 |
FurryOldGuyJeans Sat, May 16, 2009 9:19:50am |
| 835 |
Walter L. Newton Sat, May 16, 2009 9:20:00am |
re: #817 NelsFree
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
| 837 |
Kronocide Sat, May 16, 2009 9:21:02am |
re: #829 Desert Dog
This just in, the Republican party has closed down. Please refer all calls to Ron Paul, Right wing extremists, abortion clinic bombers, creationist & ID nuts and/or neo-Nazis.
Sometimes that just seems a little too close to reality.
| 838 |
Afrocity Sat, May 16, 2009 9:22:14am |
Back from my workout. Did not break a sweat but pretty good for being absent for almost a year.
Realwest, I get along better with the LGF crowd in the daytime. At night it was getting abusive which is why stay away. I like a majority of the people here and missed you guys which is why I fell off the wagon and came back. There is no reason for people to be verbally abusive. The good thing that came out of it was my blog. After being called a traitor by the left and a moby and fake here I just created my own place where I can be me.
I am thankful to Charles for letting me stay and will continue to love the lizards.
| 839 |
realwest Sat, May 16, 2009 9:23:17am |
re: #819 pingjockey
I not only hope so Ping, but I believe it. From that grassroots effort will emerge a national leader - who may or may not be on anyone's radar screen yet. Hell was Obama on anyone's radar screen (except perhaps King Richard and Obama's own) in 2002?
| 840 |
Walter L. Newton Sat, May 16, 2009 9:23:55am |
re: #832 realwest
EXCUSE ME. We are talking about TODAY Walter. And to say that Phelps represents Christianity today in any way shape or form is not the "Scotsmans Logic" (which btw, is a logical fallacy because it only can be used with people who believe in SOMETHING.).
Maybe I wasn't clear, or maybe I didn't quite understand you comment. All my point was, it that Phelps is displaying a position that was nurtured by a position that was prevalent in christian circles in the past, and even in my life time. Vatican II even had to address the issue, and that was as recent as the 1950's.
No, there is not as much rampant anti-semitism in the christian community anymore, but to think that Phelps came out of left field with this sort of thinking is to ignore the historical roots of what he is saying (and teaching).
No, Phelps is the product of something that was largely accepted in the christian church for many many centuries.
| 841 |
pingjockey Sat, May 16, 2009 9:24:06am |
re: #838 Afrocity
I never thought about that. You are right, it does get a little testy in the evening. BTW, welcome back.
| 842 |
FurryOldGuyJeans Sat, May 16, 2009 9:24:20am |
re: #838 Afrocity
Back from my workout. Did not break a sweat but pretty good for being absent for almost a year.
Realwest, I get along better with the LGF crowd in the daytime. At night it was getting abusive which is why stay away. I like a majority of the people here and missed you guys which is why I fell off the wagon and came back. There is no reason for people to be verbally abusive. The good thing that came out of it was my blog. After being called a traitor by the left and a moby and fake here I just created my own place where I can be me.
I am thankful to Charles for letting me stay and will continue to love the lizards.
I was wondering why you seemingly had left. Not cool.
Blued the nic if you want to send some mail.
| 843 |
Altermite Sat, May 16, 2009 9:25:30am |
re: #832 realwest
EXCUSE ME. We are talking about TODAY Walter. And to say that Phelps represents Christianity today in any way shape or form is not the "Scotsmans Logic" (which btw, is a logical fallacy because it only can be used with people who believe in SOMETHING.).
Saying that Walter said that Phelps represents christianity as a whole today is a massive strawman. He said that Phelps has some very strong roots in the past, though. And people are saying that anti-semitic christians of any time were not true christians. Which is a scotsman fallacy.
| 844 |
pingjockey Sat, May 16, 2009 9:25:48am |
re: #839 realwest
I really hope so. The msm is taking great delight in portraying the faaaar right loons as the face of the tea parties, not the regular folks who are fed up with gov't spending.
| 845 |
realwest Sat, May 16, 2009 9:26:39am |
re: #838 Afrocity Interesting. There does appear to be a different "crew" of LGFer's during the night time threads than there is during at least the Dead Threads.
Well I'm glad you're back for at least part of LGF and also glad that you were able to create your own blog as well.
| 846 |
opnion Sat, May 16, 2009 9:27:18am |
re: #832 realwest
EXCUSE ME. We are talking about TODAY Walter. And to say that Phelps represents Christianity today in any way shape or form is not the "Scotsmans Logic" (which btw, is a logical fallacy because it only can be used with people who believe in SOMETHING.).
Phelps is an evil nut & dismissed by most people.
It seems to me that the danger is anti semetic academics pounding it into the heads of students.
Well, off to assault the lawn.
| 847 |
FurryOldGuyJeans Sat, May 16, 2009 9:28:27am |
re: #841 pingjockey
I never thought about that. You are right, it does get a little testy in the evening. BTW, welcome back.
My two cents:
I come here to get away from the 24/7 Liberal outlook I am forced to endure living in the Seattle area. Nights is when the more egregious and outspoken lefties come to lecture us with the finer points of Leftoidism as if no one had ever heard it before.
| 848 |
VegasRick Sat, May 16, 2009 9:30:38am |
re: #828 Walter L. Newton
Your research of my comments weren't very careful. See my #770 with links, just for you.
And you can give me all the scripture you want, it's not going to negate the history of christianity and anti-semitism.
Sorry. Checkmate.
I'd bet that they would crown you if they could.
/
| 849 |
Killgore Trout Sat, May 16, 2009 9:30:47am |
re: #820 Walter L. Newton
Sorry, I just took my morning stroll through Stormfront and the Ron Paul forums. I'm done now.
| 850 |
pingjockey Sat, May 16, 2009 9:31:00am |
re: #847 FurryOldGuyJeans
You are on the wrong side of the hill, as we say over here on the east side! Now what is odd, if you get out of King and Pierce counties, going north, Skagit county is red. But the San Juans are bluer than hell.
| 851 |
pingjockey Sat, May 16, 2009 9:32:08am |
re: #849 Killgore Trout
You are a brave/crazy lizard. That could lower your IQ!
| 852 |
Afrocity Sat, May 16, 2009 9:32:09am |
re: #849 Killgore Trout
Sorry, I just took my morning stroll through Stormfront and the Ron Paul forums. I'm done now.
I saw Ron Paul's son on TV yesterday. He seems interesting.
| 853 |
Spare O'Lake Sat, May 16, 2009 9:32:56am |
re: #799 Walter L. Newton
Yep.
The Useful Anti-Semite:
When the economy turns down,
Run some Jews out of town.
If you're losing out at love,
Then give a Jew a shove.
If you lose your pay at the track,
Just give a Jew a smack.
If you're dissed by your wife,
You can give a Jew some strife.
If folks won't vote for you,
Then hang it on the dirty Jew.
And if you need someone to blame,
A Jew will always serve the game.
And when you need a sacrifice,
A Jew will usually do just nice.
/*spit*/
Excuse me while I wash my hands - this darn gun-oil stains everything...
| 854 |
FurryOldGuyJeans Sat, May 16, 2009 9:33:22am |
re: #850 pingjockey
You are on the wrong side of the hill
So true, and not for the reason you mentioned either. ;)
| 855 |
VegasRick Sat, May 16, 2009 9:33:29am |
re: #852 Afrocity
I saw Ron Paul's son on TV yesterday. He seems interesting.
Rachael Maddow scored with him.
| 856 |
Afrocity Sat, May 16, 2009 9:35:00am |
re: #847 FurryOldGuyJeans
My two cents:
I come here to get away from the 24/7 Liberal outlook I am forced to endure living in the Seattle area. Nights is when the more egregious and outspoken lefties come to lecture us with the finer points of Leftoidism as if no one had ever heard it before.
These are not lefties. Just curmudgeons. My we are all here in a room and if someone spoke to me like that in real time I would leave but I had began to care about lizards here so I check in. I have not seen Godfrey in awhile. Hope he's ok.
| 857 |
realwest Sat, May 16, 2009 9:35:45am |
re: #840 Walter L. Newton
Well I partially agree with you and partially disagree with you.
There can realistically be NO DOUBT that Anti-Semitism was "founded" or whatever by Christians among others.
But to say that Phelps is NOT a Christian is not "Scotsman's Logic" - he is a LUNATIC. All of his followers (at least as far as I can tell) are family members.
Phelps is to Christianity what Jeremiah Wright is to Christianity; both hide their brutal hatreds (Jews, homosexuals and - in Wright's case, at least, White people) behind their cloth collars. But those collars and the appellation of "reverends" is about all either one of them have in common with Christians.
| 858 |
pingjockey Sat, May 16, 2009 9:35:49am |
re: #854 FurryOldGuyJeans
I didn't mention a reason, I don't think. I just meant most of the westside is moonbat central and they outnumber us on the eastside, which is why we have 2 dipshit senators and a faux governor.
| 859 |
Desert Dog Sat, May 16, 2009 9:37:20am |
re: #837 BigPapa
Sometimes that just seems a little too close to reality.
Negative vibes make more negative vibes....I am not ready to jump on the Republicans are dead forever bandwagon just yet. In the not so distant past, the same thing was being said about the Dems. Now, they are back. But, as I have submitted here a few times, they are back because the Republicans governed poorly when they had the Congress and the Presidency. Bush also harmed the party with Iraq and his "style". The Democrats are back now because of the weariness of electorate towards the Republicans and the Obama phenomenon, not from the strength of their ideas.
This country is still divided into thirds: 1/3 conservative, 1/3 moderate and 1/3 liberal. The two groups on the ends will usually vote party lines. The middle third is the malleable segment of the electorate and they will vote with their pocket books (or, if a flashy charismatic snake oil salesman strikes their fancy). If the economy does not improve or actually gets worse, the Dems can try to pin it on Bush, but that's not going to stick. I see Obama and his current policies hitting a wall (hard) in the near future. He will lose his title as Flavor of the moment. The Republicans will come back, it's just a matter of time....and, then, after a run at things, the Dems will do the same.....this is a cycle, not a death of a party.
| 860 |
avanti Sat, May 16, 2009 9:37:30am |
re: #771 VegasRick
Damn! Where is Avani and/or Cognito when you need them to explain all of this to us!
/
What is the issue you want a comment on ? If it's just the firing of the previous administrations US attorney picks, all the POTUS's do that. I could find nothing on the news about the issue. linky ?
| 861 |
Killgore Trout Sat, May 16, 2009 9:37:38am |
re: #852 Afrocity
Ugh, don't get me started. He's a racist, and has strong support from White Nationalists. I don't think he's the candidate for you.
| 862 |
FurryOldGuyJeans Sat, May 16, 2009 9:37:50am |
re: #858 pingjockey
I didn't mention a reason, I don't think. I just meant most of the westside is moonbat central and they outnumber us on the eastside, which is why we have 2 dipshit senators and a faux governor.
You did mention a reason, as you did again. Geography.
I am on the wrong side of the hill, but not geographically. ;)
| 863 |
MandyManners Sat, May 16, 2009 9:38:01am |
The Kid is very calm, very still. This is strange.
| 864 |
pingjockey Sat, May 16, 2009 9:39:21am |
re: #862 FurryOldGuyJeans
Ah. My comprehension this morning is slow! Maybe the meds, but they're just antibiotics.
| 865 |
NelsFree Sat, May 16, 2009 9:39:26am |
re: #835 Walter L. Newton
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
My Dear and Earnest Colleague Walter,
Thank you very much for the links. I did indeed miss your earlier post which contained a link; I do not understand why my search function did not find it. I will take responsibility for not finding it and thereby apologize for said oversight.
The links provided give me much more insight into the actions of Christians in history. It is certainly disheartening to learn that many Christians over the years chose to harbor hostility toward Jews and in some cases acted on that hostility. Jesus taught us to love one another. That is certainly an unarguable point. Obviously we Christians need to be mindful of our obligations to love our brothers and sisters, and not to choose hate.
Once again, I am grateful to all my fellow Lizards for the edification we all receive by posting here. It it my opinion that all of us can agree on the evil nature of anti-Semitism, whenever and whoever perpetrates it.
Sincerely and humbly,
NelsFree
| 866 |
VegasRick Sat, May 16, 2009 9:39:33am |
re: #860 avanti
What is the issue you want a comment on ? If it's just the firing of the previous administrations US attorney picks, all the POTUS's do that. I could find nothing on the news about the issue. linky ?
re: #756 kansas
OT
Isn't this rich? Rove to testify about the firing of the US Attorneys while headline on MSNBC.
"Obama to oust group of U.S. attorneys"
| 867 |
Shug Sat, May 16, 2009 9:39:47am |
re: #863 MandyManners
The Kid is very calm, very still. This is strange.
Calm kids at night---mothers delight
Calm kids at morning---mothers take warning
| 868 |
Afrocity Sat, May 16, 2009 9:39:49am |
re: #861 Killgore Trout
Ugh, don't get me started. He's a racist, and has strong support from White Nationalists. I don't think he's the candidate for you.
I did not have a good impression of the guy. For one thing he was on Rachel Maddow- nuff said./
| 869 |
Desert Dog Sat, May 16, 2009 9:41:01am |
re: #868 Afrocity
I did not have a good impression of the guy. For one thing he was on Rachel Maddow- nuff said./
Isn't that like mixing matter and anti-matter? I am surprised your TV did not blow up.
| 871 |
Afrocity Sat, May 16, 2009 9:41:43am |
re: #862 FurryOldGuyJeans
You did mention a reason, as you did again. Geography.
I am on the wrong side of the hill, but not geographically. ;)
Talking about NYC? I used to live on UWS. Looks like Gillibrand is gonna get a run for her money. DINO or RINO or whatever she is.
| 872 |
realwest Sat, May 16, 2009 9:41:56am |
re: #843 Altermite
"And people are saying that anti-semitic christians of any time were not true christians. Which is a scotsman fallacy."
Which people are saying that? And as I've already pointed out "scotsmans fallacy" is a logical fallacy becase it can only be applied to people who believe in SOMETHING. It's sorta like an atheist saying (obviously without thinking) "God Bless you" when someone sneezes. A true Atheist would never say that.
| 873 |
FurryOldGuyJeans Sat, May 16, 2009 9:42:56am |
re: #871 Afrocity
Talking about NYC? I used to live on UWS. Looks like Gillibrand is gonna get a run for her money. DINO or RINO or whatever she is.
Was talking about Washington State and my advanced age. I am just a cranky old coot. ;)
| 874 |
pingjockey Sat, May 16, 2009 9:43:24am |
re: #871 Afrocity
No dear, WA. state. East/West divided by the Cascade mts and west is overwhelmingly blue and east is red.
| 875 |
Desert Dog Sat, May 16, 2009 9:43:26am |
re: #872 realwest
"And people are saying that anti-semitic christians of any time were not true christians. Which is a scotsman fallacy."
Which people are saying that? And as I've already pointed out "scotsmans fallacy" is a logical fallacy becase it can only be applied to people who believe in SOMETHING. It's sorta like an atheist saying (obviously without thinking) "God Bless you" when someone sneezes. A true Atheist would never say that.
They just say "Cover your mouth and quit sneezing on me, Typhoid Mary"
| 876 |
FurryOldGuyJeans Sat, May 16, 2009 9:43:49am |
re: #868 Afrocity
I did not have a good impression of the guy. For one thing he was on Rachel Maddow- nuff said./
And some people accused you of being a moby? PFFFFFFFT! ;)
| 878 |
avanti Sat, May 16, 2009 9:46:30am |
re: #866 VegasRick
OK, I'll wait for a specific question, just don't see what the issue is.
| 879 |
realwest Sat, May 16, 2009 9:46:32am |
re: #842 FurryOldGuyJeans
"I was wondering why you seemingly had left. Not cool."
Why not cool?
| 881 |
NelsFree Sat, May 16, 2009 9:48:24am |
re: #877 pingjockey
Later folks, yard work is yelling at me!
I, too, must detroy some greenery to save it. Bye, all.
Walter, 'I love ya, Man!'
| 882 |
pink freud Sat, May 16, 2009 9:48:35am |
A smallish bit of chum:
Seems that Tucker Carlson (one of MSNBC's dawgs) has been brought on board by Fox. There's something of the Ron Paul supporter about him.
| 883 |
debutaunt Sat, May 16, 2009 9:50:29am |
re: #882 pink freud
A smallish bit of chum:
Seems that Tucker Carlson (one of MSNBC's dawgs) has been brought on board by Fox. There's something of the Ron Paul supporter about him.
Does Tucker have a blimp?
| 884 |
Afrocity Sat, May 16, 2009 9:51:18am |
You have mail realwest.
I need to get out an enjoy the day.
| 885 |
FurryOldGuyJeans Sat, May 16, 2009 9:51:41am |
re: #879 realwest
"I was wondering why you seemingly had left. Not cool."
Why not cool?
Not cool getting called a moby and traitor. Not cool she felt compelled to leave because of the treatment of a few.
| 886 |
FurryOldGuyJeans Sat, May 16, 2009 9:52:22am |
| 887 |
Spare O'Lake Sat, May 16, 2009 9:53:16am |
re: #885 FurryOldGuyJeans
Not cool getting called a moby and traitor. Not cool she felt compelled to leave because of the treatment of a few.
Bullshit.
| 889 |
realwest Sat, May 16, 2009 9:53:40am |
re: #844 pingjockey
I really hope so. The msm is taking great delight in portraying the faaaar right loons as the face of the tea parties, not the regular folks who are fed up with gov't spending.
Well what else would you expect from the MSM? And a LOT of the members of the LEFT believe it as well because opportunists of the Right have tried to jump on board the tea parties as some sort of "leaders". In reality, reports from many of the Tea Parties which folks who had attended were kind enough to send to me, carried signs indicating strong dislike and disapproval of Democrats AND Republicans. And as I said, the Tea Parties after April 15, 2010 - when the Tax bites really start to chew on a lot of Americans, will be ENORMOUS in spite of what the opportunists and the MSM may say.
| 890 |
pink freud Sat, May 16, 2009 9:54:29am |
re: #883 debutaunt
Does Tucker have a blimp?
Could be, debutant, could be. I'd wager he's got more than enough hot air to fill it.
He personifies the low-life brand that has become MSNBC, though not as repulsive as Olberman. It really surprised me to see he'd been taken on by Fox. He was one of the top tier over at MSNBC.
| 891 |
FurryOldGuyJeans Sat, May 16, 2009 9:54:33am |
re: #878 avanti
Where is the outrage about O firing a bunch of attorneys? And as is being reported for even less cause than Bush had.
| 892 |
Sabnen Sat, May 16, 2009 9:56:00am |
Still working on Hubble.
One of the two astronauts comments that it is easier working in space than working in the pool on Earth. Then they fist bump each other!
I also saw a big piece of equipment with the letters IMAX on it . . . what that is doing up there have no idea.
[Link: www.nasa.gov...]
| 893 |
pink freud Sat, May 16, 2009 9:56:19am |
re: #885 FurryOldGuyJeans
Not cool getting called a moby and traitor. Not cool she felt compelled to leave because of the treatment of a few.
Her own behavior is what's responsible for her leaving, not that of anyone here. She was given a very fair shake here from all I've seen.
| 895 |
avanti Sat, May 16, 2009 9:56:47am |
re: #888 Shug
I like afrocity
I do too, even if we disagree politically. I was sorry to see her attacked and driven away by a few. She often spoke up for me even when we were on opposite side of a issue.
| 896 |
realwest Sat, May 16, 2009 9:58:43am |
re: #875 Desert Dog
They just say "Cover your mouth and quit sneezing on me, Typhoid Mary"
ROFL! Thanks for the chuckle.
| 897 |
FurryOldGuyJeans Sat, May 16, 2009 9:59:01am |
re: #887 Spare O'Lake
Bullshit.
Might I be able to inquire why you feel that way? I was just repeating what someone else said was their reasons for leaving and I expressed extreme umbrage at such bad behavior making someone feel less than welcome.
| 898 |
realwest Sat, May 16, 2009 10:00:21am |
re: #885 FurryOldGuyJeans
Ah, couldn't agree with you more, but I musta been off LGF at the time and didn't see that. Thanks.
| 899 |
Kronocide Sat, May 16, 2009 10:00:57am |
re: #859 Desert Dog
Negative vibes make more negative vibes....I am not ready to jump on the Republicans are dead forever bandwagon just yet.
I am not either and agree with your post. I don't mean to be negative, I consider myself a 'glasshalffuller' kinda lizard. But hey, sometimes you have to accept that it looks bleak, that is all. I do believe that it won't always be this way, nor should we wait for a 'hero' to come save us all.
| 900 |
Sabnen Sat, May 16, 2009 10:01:22am |
re: #894 Shug
Are they filming for a specific project down the road or is this just constantly running?
| 901 |
Kenneth Sat, May 16, 2009 10:01:38am |
re: #693 Walter L. Newton
Some folks might not like to hear what you are saying but it is true. Christian anti-semitism has a long and cruel history in Europe.
| 902 |
realwest Sat, May 16, 2009 10:02:16am |
Well y'all it's been........interesting today. I gotta go now but hope you all have a great day and that I get the chance to see you all down the road!
| 903 |
FurryOldGuyJeans Sat, May 16, 2009 10:02:47am |
re: #898 realwest
Ah, couldn't agree with you more, but I musta been off LGF at the time and didn't see that. Thanks.
I hadn't seen any of it either.
| 904 |
FurryOldGuyJeans Sat, May 16, 2009 10:03:43am |
re: #901 Kenneth
Some folks might not like to hear what you are saying but it is true. Christian anti-semitism has a long and cruel history in Europe.
Truth is always hard to swallow when it destroys one's self-righteousness.
| 905 |
avanti Sat, May 16, 2009 10:09:16am |
re: #891 FurryOldGuyJeans
Where is the outrage about O firing a bunch of attorneys? And as is being reported for even less cause than Bush had.
Clinton replaced them all when he was elected so did BHO. Bush could have done the same, but the issue was were they fired by Bush for political reasons by the POTUS that nominated them ?
Here's a
link
| 906 |
reine.de.tout Sat, May 16, 2009 10:13:25am |
re: #901 Kenneth
Some folks might not like to hear what you are saying but it is true. Christian anti-semitism has a long and cruel history in Europe.
Very true.
I think we may tend to "judge" things by our own experiences, and Christianity's anti-semitism in Europe is much more wide-spread and harsher than here in the US.
| 907 |
Kenneth Sat, May 16, 2009 10:17:07am |
Expulsion of the Jews from England
Take 5 minutes and google up a dozen more examples.
| 908 |
Spare O'Lake Sat, May 16, 2009 10:18:46am |
re: #897 FurryOldGuyJeans
Might I be able to inquire why you feel that way? I was just repeating what someone else said was their reasons for leaving and I expressed extreme umbrage at such bad behavior making someone feel less than welcome.
I'd rather not rehash it.
Suffice it to say that quite a few became extremely sceptical of certain behaviours and alleged biographical events concerning her image, her immediate family, uncle, firearms, etc.
She was not banned or driven off.
I say good luck to him/her.
| 909 |
Kenneth Sat, May 16, 2009 10:20:53am |
re: #906 reine.de.tout
{reine} Good to see you!
Walter was talking historically, but it is still true today.
| 910 |
doppelganglander Sat, May 16, 2009 10:23:07am |
re: #908 Spare O'Lake
I'd rather not rehash it.
Suffice it to say that quite a few became extremely sceptical of certain behaviours and alleged biographical events concerning her image, her immediate family, uncle, firearms, etc.
She was not banned or driven off.
I say good luck to him/her.
And that kind of bullshit is why I've lost all respect for you.
| 911 |
Kenneth Sat, May 16, 2009 10:23:33am |
IE 8 is crawling slower than Obama without a teleprompter. TIme to log off & update to Firefox. Later folks!
| 912 |
Spare O'Lake Sat, May 16, 2009 10:28:36am |
re: #909 Kenneth
{reine} Good to see you!
Walter was talking historically, but it is still true today.
The beast continues to live within each of us, always looking for an opportunity to emerge.
BTW, noone should take any of this talk about anti-semitism to mean that many Jews themselves are free of religious prejudice, or that any honest Jew would claim otherwise.
| 913 |
Spare O'Lake Sat, May 16, 2009 10:32:08am |
re: #910 doppelganglander
And that kind of bullshit is why I've lost all respect for you.
Do we actually know the true sex or race of any posters?
(With the exception of Walter).
| 914 |
Kenneth Sat, May 16, 2009 10:46:31am |
re: #838 Afrocity
Please keep posting here. You're one of the most interesting people on LGF. Your blog is excellent too.
| 915 |
Afrocity Sat, May 16, 2009 10:56:47am |
Thanks to those who are kind and support me. It means a lot to me. LGF is a special place. I will come back because there are people here that make it worth my while. We all have enough to battle with Obama in office without becoming small minded and petty.
God Bless.
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