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1 FurryOldGuyJeans  Fri, Jun 12, 2009 11:18:24pm

I claim this thread in the name of all Lizardom!

2 Sharmuta  Fri, Jun 12, 2009 11:18:45pm
Watch what people are cynical about, and one can often discover what they lack.

Well- I don't know about that.

3 Fenway_Nation  Fri, Jun 12, 2009 11:19:29pm

Heya Friday Night lizards! Don't forget to buy Israeli bonds!

4 Gus  Fri, Jun 12, 2009 11:20:17pm

NOTAM: Endeavor launch has been postponed

Gaseous Hydrogen Leak Postpones Endeavour Launch
Fri, 12 Jun 2009 10:46:02 PM MDT

A gaseous hydrogen leak on a vent line for space shuttle Endeavour is postponing this morning's launch. The official scrub time was 12:26 a.m. EDT. Launch teams began draining Endeavour's external fuel tank of its liquid hydrogen and liquid oxygen at 12:06 a.m.

Fueling was halted after the leak was detected near the Ground Umbilical Carrier Plate, or GUCP, which attached to the external tank at its intertank area. The line leads from the GUCP back to the launch pad and to the "flare stack" where vented gaseous hydrogen is burned off.

The leak is similar to what happened during the first launch attempt of space shuttle Discovery's STS-119 mission in March.

After the leak is assessed, shuttle managers plan to meet Saturday morning to discuss what steps to take next, including targeting a new launch date for Endeavour's STS-127 mission to the International Space Station.

5 jcm  Fri, Jun 12, 2009 11:21:19pm

Night Honos!

J.S. Bach Toccata in G major BWV 916 Allegro

6 wiffersnapper  Fri, Jun 12, 2009 11:22:02pm

I was hopin' for an open.

7 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Jun 12, 2009 11:22:52pm

Time for me to get to bed. I'll be back in the morning.

8 pat  Fri, Jun 12, 2009 11:22:54pm

I am often cynical about what people lack.

9 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Jun 12, 2009 11:27:02pm

So, are lizards of the evening Gecko's?
Now, if THAT wasn't a mistake, GEEZ. Yuck!
I tried you tube. ICK!

10 The Other Les  Fri, Jun 12, 2009 11:27:24pm

re: #1 FurryOldGuyJeans

I claim this thread in the name of all Lizardom!

Oh, shove off!

11 Sharmuta  Fri, Jun 12, 2009 11:27:26pm

re: #9 Floral Giraffe

We are the Illuminaughty.

12 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Jun 12, 2009 11:28:30pm

re: #11 Sharmuta

We are the Illuminaughty.

LOLOL!
Still, need brain bleach for the you tube search.

13 FurryOldGuyJeans  Fri, Jun 12, 2009 11:28:50pm

re: #8 pat

I am often cynical about what people lack.

I am never lacking cynicism.

/ cranky old coot

14 FurryOldGuyJeans  Fri, Jun 12, 2009 11:29:25pm

re: #10 The Other Les

Oh, shove off!

Oh, neener, neener, neener! ;)

15 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Jun 12, 2009 11:29:40pm

re: #11 Sharmuta

We are the Illuminaughty.

That, or you ought to get spankins,,,,,

16 Sharmuta  Fri, Jun 12, 2009 11:30:03pm

I can haz spankings?!

17 Gus  Fri, Jun 12, 2009 11:30:16pm

re: #13 FurryOldGuyJeans

I am never lacking cynicism.

/ cranky old coot

I'm cynical about my cynicism therefore I probably need to be more cynical.

/

18 axegrinder  Fri, Jun 12, 2009 11:35:06pm

Did ya'll see the 7.4 million monkey digs in the last thread? Any ideas what they did with the rest after they spent the couple hundred thousand it probably cost to make that little playground? I'm guessing bribes and graft and expenses. Thoughts?

19 Sharmuta  Fri, Jun 12, 2009 11:38:56pm

I think the upgrade to the Spy is awesome, although I was half expecting to see the ratings color coordinated and negative links and comments to be shaded in pink while the positives were in green. I think it's a much improved feature though. The best blog just keeps getting better.

20 Pvt Bin Jammin  Fri, Jun 12, 2009 11:40:19pm

"Watch what people are cynical about, and one can often discover what they lack."

I saw a couple of people tonight who completely lacked empathy. No wonder I don't like them.

Hi lizards.

21 Fenway_Nation  Fri, Jun 12, 2009 11:41:22pm

re: #20 Pvt Bin Jammin

Hi PB&J!

22 freetoken  Fri, Jun 12, 2009 11:44:59pm

re: #19 Sharmuta

I was kind of hoping for a color change though, for the Spy, so the background would look different than a normal window. At first I thought dark grey, but on reconsideration perhaps a nice pastel lavender/plum would work (contrasts well with both the light green and light grey bubbles...)

23 pat  Fri, Jun 12, 2009 11:45:29pm

I got a new ANZA knife today.
[Link: store.anzaknivesonline.com...]

My wife immediately took it from me and said that she loved it. Would be good to wrap boxes and do general stuff. Told me to buy my own. Is that fair?

24 Sharmuta  Fri, Jun 12, 2009 11:46:10pm

re: #22 freetoken

There's room on the right for an advertisement.

25 Killian Bundy  Fri, Jun 12, 2009 11:46:20pm

re: #4 Gus 802

NOTAM: Endeavor launch has been postponed

Gaseous Hydrogen Leak Postpones Endeavour Launch

These vehicles shouldn't even be flying, we've already lost 40% of the fleet.

And you can pretty much forget about the follow on programs.

NASA worried about program future

For the first time since man set foot on the moon four decades ago, a president has ordered a wholesale review of the space program’s future and whether the U.S. can afford to — or even wants to — return to the moon or send humans hurtling toward Mars.

With new leadership poised to take command of NASA, the next few months could be pivotal to the jobs of thousands of space program employees and contractors who depend on NASA for their livelihoods. As the shuttle prepares for its future as a museum exhibit and cost projections for a new moon mission rise while the timetable slips, the space agency’s political future is very much in doubt.

Despite President Barack Obama’s repeated expressions of excitement about space exploration, his administration’s ongoing scrutiny of the manned program is stirring concern among NASA employees and aerospace contractors that jobs will be lost, multibillion-dollar contracts will be jeopardized and the planned return to the moon will be delayed or even scrapped.

It's a lot of wasted money.

/that could be money better spent feeding unions and community organizers and funding sex education for kindergärtners

26 Pvt Bin Jammin  Fri, Jun 12, 2009 11:46:35pm

re: #21 Fenway_Nation

Hi PB&J!

Shhhh...I might be slightly in violation of the Iron Fist rule. I won't stay long. I just get sick to death of certain 69 yr old Berkeley graduates. LOL

27 IslandLibertarian  Fri, Jun 12, 2009 11:47:41pm

"Oh yes, a spanking, a spanking! And after that, the oral s_x"
Zute, Castle Anthrax, MP&HG............

28 Digital Display  Fri, Jun 12, 2009 11:48:26pm

re: #24 Sharmuta

There's room on the right for an advertisement.

Good Morning Sharm! Hiya lizards!
how is everybody doing? I guess I need to check out the new and improved spy!

29 ArchangelMichael  Fri, Jun 12, 2009 11:49:37pm

Watching the Spy I see a lot of action in a 3 day old thread. Are the "Gotta get the last word in" trolls causing trouble?

30 Sharmuta  Fri, Jun 12, 2009 11:50:38pm

Hi, {Hoops}. I'm hanging in there. Found out earlier my grandpa is ill and in the hospital. He should be alright if he can hold off getting pneumonia. He's not trying very hard though. He misses grandma....

31 Gus  Fri, Jun 12, 2009 11:50:42pm

re: #29 ArchangelMichael

Sorry about all that dinging. Mostly it was for someone calling Salamantis "Sally" and being rather condescending.

32 Rustler  Fri, Jun 12, 2009 11:50:43pm

So I wonder how long it will be before the folks on Whale wars will be brought up on piracy or terrorism charges? And how long til Animal Planet is sued for encouraging this idiots and paying these idiots to videotape their attempts to sabotage a foreign countries ships.

33 FurryOldGuyJeans  Fri, Jun 12, 2009 11:51:22pm

re: #27 IslandLibertarian

"Oh yes, a spanking, a spanking! And after that, the oral s_x"
Zute, Castle Anthrax, MP&HG............

Porn actor tests positive for HIV; others have too
Jun. 12, 2009 09:49 AM
Los Angeles Times

LOS ANGELES -- Despite porn industry assurances that an adult film actress' recent positive HIV test is the first since a 2004 outbreak shut down production for a month, Los Angeles County health officials said Thursday at least 16 additional unpublicized cases of HIV have been confirmed in adult film performers.

The newly released data brings the number of HIV cases in porn performers in the last five years to 22, including the case that came to light this week.

The cases -- and what state and county health officials perceive as stonewalling by the Adult Industry Medical Healthcare Foundation that tests porn performers for sexually transmitted diseases -- is bringing renewed scrutiny to the estimated $12 billion dollar a year industry's long history of resisting regulation and condom use.

"AIM Healthcare has never been cooperative with us and our investigations," said Dean Fryer, spokesman of California's Division of Occupational Safety and Health. So far, the San Fernando Valley-based clinic has declined to tell county or state officials the name of the performer or her employer.

"You'd think they'd want to be a full partner in trying to prevent the spread of this disease," said Dr. Jonathan Fielding, health officer for Los Angeles County.

34 Syrah  Fri, Jun 12, 2009 11:51:39pm

re: #27 IslandLibertarian

"re: #27 IslandLibertarian

"Oh yes, a spanking, a spanking! And after that, the oral s_x"
Zute, Castle Anthrax, MP&HG............

Oh yes, a spanking, a spanking! And after that, the oral s_x"
Zute, Castle Anthrax, MP&HG............

Galahad: Well, I could stay a *bit* longer...

35 Smilla  Fri, Jun 12, 2009 11:51:41pm

I stopped posting on this site a while ago because I needed somewhere more activist. Now I've come back to see if you are onto the biggest outrage going on at the moment: Palin having to fight back at the disgusting comments made about her and her daughter by David Letterman. And what do I find? You haven't even covered it. Over at the Hillbuzz site, they have bitten into this fight like terriers and are not letting go. Everyone has been protesting to the network and their advertisers.

Where are the Lizard Army?

36 FurryOldGuyJeans  Fri, Jun 12, 2009 11:52:42pm

re: #29 ArchangelMichael

Watching the Spy I see a lot of action in a 3 day old thread. Are the "Gotta get the last word in" trolls causing trouble?

Just some really windbaggy idiot insulting a long standing lizard.

37 Digital Display  Fri, Jun 12, 2009 11:52:51pm

re: #30 Sharmuta

Hi, {Hoops}. I'm hanging in there. Found out earlier my grandpa is ill and in the hospital. He should be alright if he can hold off getting pneumonia. He's not trying very hard though. He misses grandma....

awwww That is sad...Poor man...I'll say a prayer for him tonight..and for you.
Be well friend....

38 FurryOldGuyJeans  Fri, Jun 12, 2009 11:53:28pm

re: #35 Smilla

Piss off, with all respect.

39 FurryOldGuyJeans  Fri, Jun 12, 2009 11:54:15pm

re: #31 Gus 802

Sorry about all that dinging. Mostly it was for someone calling Salamantis "Sally" and being rather condescending.

Rather condescending? Is a trifle more than just rather, and a long-winded blowhard to boot.

40 Pvt Bin Jammin  Fri, Jun 12, 2009 11:54:22pm

re: #30 Sharmuta

Hi, {Hoops}. I'm hanging in there. Found out earlier my grandpa is ill and in the hospital. He should be alright if he can hold off getting pneumonia. He's not trying very hard though. He misses grandma....

{Sharmuta} I am so sorry to hear. Keep him smiling.

41 Sharmuta  Fri, Jun 12, 2009 11:54:31pm

re: #35 Smilla

Hell- I thought the biggest outrage was trillions of dollars of deficit spending my great-great-grandchildren would be paying for.

But it's a washed up, has-been tv personality you say? Huh.

I think I'm cynical about other people's priorities.

42 Smilla  Fri, Jun 12, 2009 11:54:33pm

re: #38 FurryOldGuyJeans


No respect at all by the sound of it. stay in your armchairs Lizard Army. we'll continue the fight on our own.

43 Syrah  Fri, Jun 12, 2009 11:54:38pm

re: #35 Smilla

You may have misunderstood a few things . . .

44 ArchangelMichael  Fri, Jun 12, 2009 11:54:59pm

re: #36 FurryOldGuyJeans

Just some really windbaggy idiot insulting a long standing lizard.

Windbaggy idiots calling Salamantis "Sally"...

They should be dispatched with heavenly force.

45 IslandLibertarian  Fri, Jun 12, 2009 11:55:35pm

re: #33 FurryOldGuyJeans

Ladies and gentlemen, we're from OSHA, porn division..........

46 Gus  Fri, Jun 12, 2009 11:56:27pm

re: #39 FurryOldGuyJeans

Rather condescending? Is a trifle more than just rather, and a long-winded blowhard to boot.

Yep. OK, a motormouthed phorking asshole.

47 redc1c4  Fri, Jun 12, 2009 11:56:46pm

re: #23 pat

I got a new ANZA knife today.
[Link: store.anzaknivesonline.com...]

My wife immediately took it from me and said that she loved it. Would be good to wrap boxes and do general stuff. Told me to buy my own. Is that fair?

you're married: what does "f*ir" have to do with it?

and please, do not use the f-word on the LNDT or we will get fucking pissed.

48 Sharmuta  Fri, Jun 12, 2009 11:56:53pm

re: #37 HoosierHoops

re: #40 Pvt Bin Jammin

Thanks. I'll be visiting him sometime this weekend. Hopefully, we can get him to perk up.

49 Syrah  Fri, Jun 12, 2009 11:57:12pm

re: #42 Smilla

Do you find people are generally more agreeable and eager to follow your lead after you piss on their shoes?

50 Killian Bundy  Fri, Jun 12, 2009 11:57:13pm

re: #4 Gus 802

Endeavor launch has been postponed

Gee, that probably also defeats the purpose of having it on the pad "ready to launch" in case Atlantis needed to be rescued on the very dangerous Hubble repair mission.

/Atlantis and crew were screwed had it been damaged

51 Pvt Bin Jammin  Fri, Jun 12, 2009 11:57:50pm

re: #45 IslandLibertarian

Ladies and gentlemen, we're from OSHA, porn division..........

LOL I have had to deal with OSHA. I wonder how that works in the porn business?

52 Yankee Division Son  Fri, Jun 12, 2009 11:58:04pm
"Watch what people are cynical about, and one can often discover what they lack"


I've been under the impression this was a General George S. Patton Jr. quote. After some Googling, I'm beginning to think Patton was likely a fan of Fosdick, and apparently repeated this quote often.

53 IslandLibertarian  Fri, Jun 12, 2009 11:58:49pm

re: #35 Smilla

right wing wack-os are the enemy de jour.......
Letterman, Pelosi, Muslim terrorist murderer?....not interested.........
/Who is this Obimamama I'keep hearing about?

54 FurryOldGuyJeans  Fri, Jun 12, 2009 11:59:11pm

re: #42 Smilla

Then just piss off.

The nerve of some people coming in and shitting on our host's carpet.

55 Pvt Bin Jammin  Fri, Jun 12, 2009 11:59:21pm

re: #48 Sharmuta

I kid you not. Tell him something funny. I think it works.

56 Digital Display  Fri, Jun 12, 2009 11:59:30pm

re: #35 Smilla

I stopped posting on this site a while ago because I needed somewhere more activist. Now I've come back to see if you are onto the biggest outrage going on at the moment: Palin having to fight back at the disgusting comments made about her and her daughter by David Letterman. And what do I find? You haven't even covered it. Over at the Hillbuzz site, they have bitten into this fight like terriers and are not letting go. Everyone has been protesting to the network and their advertisers.

Where are the Lizard Army?

Oh please! It's been covered here from all angles...
And if you think the biggest story in politics is a late night jerk off making fun of Palin's daughter then you need to get a life..
You live on the edge don't you..

57 gmsc  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 12:00:00am

Today in History, June 13th:

Highlights of this day in history: The Pentagon Papers hits newsstands amid the Vietnam War; Thurgood Marshall nominated for the U.S. Supreme Court; The 'Miranda' warning; Pioneer 10 leaves solar system; Swing legend Benny Goodman dies.

Other notable June 13th events include:

1525 – Martin Luther marries Katharina von Bora, against the celibacy rule decreed by the Roman Catholic Church for priests and nuns.

1774 – Rhode Island becomes the first of Britain's North American colonies to ban the importation of slaves.

1977 – Convicted Martin Luther King Jr. assassin James Earl Ray is recaptured after escaping from prison three days before.

1997 – A jury sentences Timothy McVeigh to the death for his part in the 1995 Oklahoma City bombing.

2002 – The United States of America withdraws from the Anti-Ballistic Missile Treaty.

58 Gus  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 12:00:31am

re: #35 Smilla

I stopped posting on this site a while ago because I needed somewhere more activist. Now I've come back to see if you are onto the biggest outrage going on at the moment: Palin having to fight back at the disgusting comments made about her and her daughter by David Letterman. And what do I find? You haven't even covered it. Over at the Hillbuzz site, they have bitten into this fight like terriers and are not letting go. Everyone has been protesting to the network and their advertisers.

Where are the Lizard Army?

Uh, if you weren't a FNG you would have noticed that it was discussed in within the articles and OT. So before you come in here moaning you might want to get a clue as to what's going on.

59 redc1c4  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 12:00:45am

i'm not cynical, i'm experienced. Fosdick can FO.

60 Pvt Bin Jammin  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 12:01:03am

re: #42 Smilla

No respect at all by the sound of it. stay in your armchairs Lizard Army. we'll continue the fight on our own.

We're an Army here but we don't report to you.

61 redc1c4  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 12:01:21am

re: #58 Gus 802

Uh, if you weren't a FNG you would have noticed that it was discussed in within the articles and OT. So before you come in here moaning you might want to get a clue as to what's going on.

i doubt they make clues that small...... we'd have to trim to fit inside the point.

62 Sharmuta  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 12:01:23am

re: #35 Smilla

Hillbuzz?! Those frauds? Yeah- they really helped Sarah a lot, those guys. I mean- if it weren't for Hillbuzz, Sarah would still be in Alaska.

Oh- wait...

And knock yourself out going after Letterman- Lord knows he has it coming, but don't toss around your overblown hyperbole here that this is the greatest outrage ever. I'll again question your priorities. Getting Letterman canned isn't going to fix the fiscal mess in Washington. But you feel free to piss in the corner some more.

63 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 12:01:53am

re: #44 ArchangelMichael

Windbaggy idiots calling Salamantis "Sally"...

They should be dispatched with heavenly force.

re: #46 Gus 802

Yep. OK, a motormouthed phorking asshole.

What gets me about this particular windbaggy moron, A.W., is he is parsing individual lines and phrases with page after page of commentary. Boring beyond boring, this troll.

64 freetoken  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 12:02:34am

re: #24 Sharmuta

Just thought it would be interesting to do some experimental "interior" decorating.

/Especially since the rug has been p*ssed on so many times these past couple of months!

65 Fenway_Nation  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 12:04:11am

re: #32 Rustler

I hope you can take heart in this link, Rustler:

Earlier this month, Sea Shepherd leader Paul Watson - the environmentalist attention hog who spent most of the summer provoking Japanese whalers - issued a statement following the drowning deaths of three seal hunters north of Cape Breton. Seal hunters are "baby killers", wrote Watson, who "are seeking sympathy because some of their own died".

The anti-human tubster went on to describe the seal hunt as an "even greater tragedy" than the men's deaths. A few days later, fishermen led by Carl Beaupertuis advanced on Watson's ship while it was docked at St. Pierre, a French island off the Canadian coast, chopped through its lines with axes, and chased the Sea Sheperders away.

"We cut the ropes because the fishermen of St. Pierre don't accept what Paul Watson said," Beaupertuis told The Canadian Press. "He's not allowed to come in the harbour any more. It's finished for him."

Watson squealed about possible legal action, but French government official Andre Varcin was charmingly dismissive. "The prosecutor will deliver some reprimands and warnings, but I don't think there will be any convictions," he shrugged. Asked if Watson would be allowed to return, Varcin said: "He can return at his own risk and peril."

Hero quote, from fisherman Carl: "We don't accept those kinds of people in St. Pierre. If they want to come back, I tell you this time there's going to be some violence, 'cause we won't let him back in the harbour. No way."

66 Killian Bundy  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 12:04:15am

re: #35 Smilla

Over at the Hillbuzz site, they have bitten into this fight like terriers and are not letting go. Everyone has been protesting to the network and their advertisers.

What do you need us for then?

/Sarah Palin doesn't need any help

67 Gus  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 12:04:29am

re: #63 FurryOldGuyJeans

What gets me about this particular windbaggy moron, A.W., is he is parsing individual lines and phrases with page after page of commentary. Boring beyond boring, this troll.

I noticed that too. Heck the "Sally" and "Mustang Sally" bologna pisses me off. That's the kind of stuff that will piss me off when they do it to a regular I would even disagree with.

68 Gus  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 12:05:45am

re: #61 redc1c4

i doubt they make clues that small...... we'd have to trim to fit inside the point.

Hey Red. How's the rat hunting going?

69 axegrinder  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 12:05:47am

re: #41 Sharmuta

Hell- I thought the biggest outrage was trillions of dollars of deficit spending my great-great-grandchildren would be paying for.

But it's a washed up, has-been tv personality you say? Huh.

I think I'm cynical about other people's priorities.

I grew up watching Letterman. I always liked him until he went political. I was shocked when I heard his 'joke.' It wasn't just him telling it(I'm sure he didn't realize it was the 14 year old with Mom) but the laughter and lack of gasps and boo's from the audience that disappointed me. This is the culture we live in now, get used to it. I'm trying to. I guess I'm an old fashioned conservative geezer at 42.

70 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 12:06:20am

re: #30 Sharmuta

Hi, {Hoops}. I'm hanging in there. Found out earlier my grandpa is ill and in the hospital. He should be alright if he can hold off getting pneumonia. He's not trying very hard though. He misses grandma....

It has been several decades since I had any of my grandparents left to interact with. Cherish the time you have, they won't come again.

71 Sharmuta  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 12:07:11am

Trillions of dollars in deficit spending.

And I'm supposed to think Letterman is a bigger outrage.

That's fucked up, American Idol styled, "Look- shiny things!" politics. Feh!

I think letterman is a misogynistic asshole, but I'll keep my eye on the real ball.

72 redc1c4  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 12:07:45am

re: #68 Gus 802

Hey Red. How's the rat hunting going?

one shot, one kill so far...... can't stay up too late, as i'm driving HRH and a guest down to her dad's for the stepmom B-day festivities.

73 ArchangelMichael  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 12:08:12am

re: #67 Gus 802

I noticed that too. Heck the "Sally" and "Mustang Sally" bologna pisses me off. That's the kind of stuff that will piss me off when they do it to a regular I would even disagree with.

They could have said shit like that to Avanti or Spacejesus and I'd still want to punt them into trans-lunar injection.

74 Fenway_Nation  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 12:08:29am

re: #51 Pvt Bin Jammin

LOL I have had to deal with OSHA. I wonder how that works in the porn business?

OSHA Supervisor: Good news- that transfer you've been asking for has been approved. You've just been transferred to the Adult Entertainment Oversight Division of OSHA

OSHA Inspector: Yes! So when do I start?

OHSA Inspector: You report to the Gay Male Chubby Chaser Division first thing Monday......

/proving once again that not all things sound as good as they might if given enough scrutiny.

75 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 12:08:31am

weet dreams all!

76 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 12:08:46am

re: #60 Pvt Bin Jammin

We're an Army here but we don't report to you.

I barely report to myself; I don't need some part-timer trying to tell me what to do.

77 Gus  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 12:08:56am

re: #72 redc1c4

one shot, one kill so far...... can't stay up too late, as i'm driving HRH and a guest down to her dad's for the stepmom B-day festivities.

Hope it's a fun time.

78 Sharmuta  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 12:09:10am

re: #64 freetoken

Just thought it would be interesting to do some experimental "interior" decorating.

/Especially since the rug has been p*ssed on so many times these past couple of months!

What would be really cool is if we could customize the background, like picking our own color off a list. Purple or green or grey or blue. I want plaid!

79 gmsc  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 12:09:37am

From TJIC:

two similar colors with quite dissimilar properties

We all know that “dark fiber” is fiber optic cable that’s not being used.

It turns out that “black fiber” is something altogether different.

If you accidentally dig up a patch of in-use fiber, you get a phone call an hour or two later.

If you accidentally dig up a patch of dark fiber, you get a phone call a week or a month later.

…but if you dig up a patch of black fiber…

80 Gus  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 12:09:53am

re: #73 ArchangelMichael

They could have said shit like that to Avanti or Spacejesus and I'd still want to punt them into trans-lunar injection.

Exactly! TLI all the way. To the moon!

81 axegrinder  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 12:09:54am

re: #54 FurryOldGuyJeans

Then just piss off.

The nerve of some people coming in and shitting on our host's carpet.

Eloquent, but I'm pretty sure that's not the 'movement' he was hoping to get from us. Personally, I prefer the armchair.

82 Killian Bundy  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 12:10:29am

re: #72 redc1c4

can't stay up too late, as i'm driving HRH and a guest down to her dad's for the stepmom B-day festivities.

/that's going to put a crimp in your drinking

83 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 12:10:50am

re: #69 axegrinder

I grew up watching Letterman. I always liked him until he went political. I was shocked when I heard his 'joke.' It wasn't just him telling it(I'm sure he didn't realize it was the 14 year old with Mom) but the laughter and lack of gasps and boo's from the audience that disappointed me. This is the culture we live in now, get used to it. I'm trying to. I guess I'm an old fashioned conservative geezer at 42.

Late Night T.V. died for me when Carson retired. Letterman was a no-watch from the beginning, especially with his tantrum about not getting the gig Leno got.

84 redc1c4  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 12:11:11am

re: #76 FurryOldGuyJeans

I barely report to myself; I don't need some part-timer trying to tell me what to do.

i figure it's just another person to ignore.... %-)

85 Digital Display  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 12:11:29am

re: #76 FurryOldGuyJeans

I barely report to myself; I don't need some part-timer trying to tell me what to do.

What? you mean that it's not our job to protect the virtues of Sarah's daughters? Damn! where did I go wrong? Stupid politics! I thought I had it all figured out!

86 Pvt Bin Jammin  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 12:11:38am

re: #74 Fenway_Nation

/proving once again that not all things sound as good as they might if given enough scrutiny.

LOL

Damn. I feel bad for those women but why in the hell did they get into that biz?

87 redc1c4  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 12:11:44am

re: #82 Killian Bundy

/that's going to put a crimp in your drinking

i started early...... it's called planning ahead. %-)

88 Gus  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 12:11:48am

re: #83 FurryOldGuyJeans

Late Night T.V. died for me when Carson retired. Letterman was a no-watch from the beginning, especially with his tantrum about not getting the gig Leno got.

I read that Conan is killing Letterman in the ratings. I never liked Letterman at all.

89 redc1c4  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 12:12:07am

re: #86 Pvt Bin Jammin

LOL

Damn. I feel bad for those women but why in the hell did they get into that biz?

$$$

90 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 12:12:33am

re: #67 Gus 802

I noticed that too. Heck the "Sally" and "Mustang Sally" bologna pisses me off. That's the kind of stuff that will piss me off when they do it to a regular I would even disagree with.

I can tolerate an insult or two, I've tossed a few at our resident lefties myself. But the constant insults with the minutiae parsing crap was enough for me to just say *DING*.

91 Sharmuta  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 12:12:33am

re: #88 Gus 802

I read that Conan is killing Letterman in the ratings. I never liked Letterman at all.

NBC has always won that race.

92 freetoken  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 12:12:38am

re: #71 Sharmuta

We've conversed before about the ubiquitous misogyny (even though most of it is low level and not obvious) aimed at female politicians...

It is very difficult for many (most?) men (including myself) to take direction from a woman.

93 redc1c4  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 12:13:00am

re: #77 Gus 802

Hope it's a fun time.

like going to the dentist, by way of the proctologists office.

94 IslandLibertarian  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 12:13:21am

re: #41 Sharmuta

But it's a washed up, has-been tv personality you say?

Yes and he perfectly symbolizes the Liberal Elitist double standard that has run amok in our country. And that needs to be challenged, again and again and again.
It's more than Letterman. It's the unchallenged slander that has gone on since before Reagan. And it meshes with the financial quagmire "0"is leading us into in that we're just supposed to sit back and take whatever they say or do.

It's all important.

95 Syrah  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 12:13:23am

re: #78 Sharmuta

What would be really cool is if we could customize the background, like picking our own color off a list. Purple or green or grey or blue. I want plaid!

Or in Mandelbrot!

96 Pvt Bin Jammin  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 12:13:51am

re: #89 redc1c4

$$$

You couldn't pay me enough.

Good to see you Red. I'd better hit the hay. Nite.

97 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 12:14:26am

re: #88 Gus 802

I read that Conan is killing Letterman in the ratings. I never liked Letterman at all.

I have seen reports of both he is and he isn't. It matters not a whit to me, I watch DVDs most of the time now.

98 Killian Bundy  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 12:14:28am

re: #93 redc1c4

like going to the dentist, by way of the proctologists office.

Relax and enjoy it.

/when it's all over, you'll have a shit eating grin

99 Gus  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 12:14:29am

re: #93 redc1c4

like going to the dentist, by way of the proctologists office.

Ouch. I have a dull toothache now and am sitting on a donut. I do have a 1/2 pint of whiskey though. =]

100 gmsc  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 12:14:39am

re: #93 redc1c4

like going to the dentist, by way of the proctologists office.

101 gmsc  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 12:15:14am

re: #98 Killian Bundy

Relax and enjoy it.

/when it's all over, you'll have a shit eating grin

*RIMSHOT*

102 Sharmuta  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 12:15:44am

re: #92 freetoken

We've conversed before about the ubiquitous misogyny (even though most of it is low level and not obvious) aimed at female politicians...

It is very difficult for many (most?) men (including myself) to take direction from a woman.

Oh- I know! Most women do.

103 Gus  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 12:16:13am

re: #97 FurryOldGuyJeans

I have seen reports of both he is and he isn't. It matters not a whit to me, I watch DVDs most of the time now.

Yeah, doesn't matter to me either. I don't watch TV but watch what I can online and for free.

104 Fenway_Nation  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 12:16:26am

re: #94 IslandLibertarian

And all the clubs, diamonds, spades and hearts from Hussein Dolts initial house of cards haven't finished tumbling down when he starts working on two or three more houses of cards built on a foundation that's as solid as half-finished Jello-O.

105 Syrah  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 12:16:32am

Speaking of coarsening of the culture and TV.

I watched an episode of House at my brothers house tonight. It was the episode where Mr. Happiness pulls a tapeworm out of a girl's stomach. How does this thing stay on the air?

106 redc1c4  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 12:17:33am

re: #98 Killian Bundy

Relax and enjoy it.

/when it's all over, you'll have a shit eating grin

i don't give a crap....... i'd stay home, but stepmom is really nice: almost makes up for the rest of them.

107 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 12:18:05am

re: #85 HoosierHoops

What? you mean that it's not our job to protect the virtues of Sarah's daughters? Damn! where did I go wrong? Stupid politics! I thought I had it all figured out!

I am more intent on compromising the virtues of a lady or two local to me, thank you very much. ;)

Now I just need to find one.

108 redc1c4  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 12:18:52am

re: #105 Syrah

Speaking of coarsening of the culture and TV.

I watched an episode of House at my brothers house tonight. It was the episode where Mr. Happiness pulls a tapeworm out of a girl's stomach. How does this thing stay on the air?

i must have missed that one....... worm class was the best two days of 91Q training.

109 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 12:19:07am

re: #84 redc1c4

i figure it's just another person to ignore.... %-)

So many to ignore, so little attention to spare.

/ something like that, right?

110 IslandLibertarian  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 12:19:22am

re: #107 FurryOldGuyJeans

my ex wifes number is 808 368-...................

111 Sharmuta  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 12:19:27am

re: #94 IslandLibertarian

But it's a washed up, has-been tv personality you say?

Yes and he perfectly symbolizes the Liberal Elitist double standard that has run amok in our country. And that needs to be challenged, again and again and again.
It's more than Letterman. It's the unchallenged slander that has gone on since before Reagan. And it meshes with the financial quagmire "0"is leading us into in that we're just supposed to sit back and take whatever they say or do.

It's all important.

I don't know how many times folks need to say the media is the enemy, but other than writing to CBS, there isn't much I can do. I don't watch TV, so he's not getting ratings from me, and his advertisers aren't wooing me with their products. But I think we gain little from attacking the media on this point when the misogyny is cultural.

112 Zimriel  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 12:19:38am

re: #64 freetoken

Just thought it would be interesting to do some experimental "interior" decorating.

/Especially since the rug has been p*ssed on so many times these past couple of months!

I dunno, it's been a while since we last had a good, gamey troll in here.

113 redc1c4  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 12:19:47am

re: #109 FurryOldGuyJeans

So many to ignore, so little attention to spare.

/ something like that, right?

huh?

114 Fenway_Nation  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 12:20:12am

re: #108 redc1c4

91Q- did that make you Coms or signal?

115 redc1c4  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 12:20:18am

re: #110 IslandLibertarian

my ex wifes number is 808 368-...................

i thought it was 867-5309.......

116 Gus  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 12:21:01am

re: #112 Zimriel

I dunno, it's been a while since we last had a good, gamey troll in here.

You might have missed out on Osama bin Asshat.

117 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 12:21:03am

re: #110 IslandLibertarian

my ex wifes number is 808 368-...................

I already have one of those I am trying to ignore, thank you very much.

118 Fenway_Nation  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 12:21:24am

re: #115 redc1c4

Damn you Tommy Two-tone!

119 gmsc  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 12:21:57am

re: #115 redc1c4

i thought it was 867-5309.......

I got it! I got it! I got her number off the thread . . .

120 ArchangelMichael  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 12:22:00am

"Is it me or is the world rising?"

121 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 12:22:22am

re: #112 Zimriel

I dunno, it's been a while since we last had a good, gamey troll in here.

Osama bin Asshat and A.W. are stinking up the same thread; one is filleted and prepared for the grill, the other just rank and vile.

122 Zimriel  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 12:22:33am

re: #116 Gus 802

You might have missed out on Osama bin Asshat.

I did miss that... With a name like that, that must have been impressive.

123 redc1c4  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 12:22:38am

re: #114 Fenway_Nation

91Q- did that make you Coms or signal?

rx tech...... don't know what the new number is. typical army: they decide that ossifers and enlisted should have the same branch numbers, so, instead of cutting orders for a few thousands of zeros to match the 100's of thousands of enlisted swine, they do the opposite.

like anyone ever knew/cared/worried about what the LT's branch number was....

124 Gus  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 12:23:17am

re: #122 Zimriel

I did miss that... With a name like that, that must have been impressive.

The dude was weird. Got pretty vile towards the end before he was blocked.

125 davinvalkri  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 12:23:53am

re: #115 redc1c4

i thought it was 867-5309.......

Whose phone number is that exactly? The number's from some 80s pop song, but I can't place the name...

126 gmsc  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 12:24:03am
Watch what people are cynical about, and one can often discover what they lack.
— Harry Emerson Fosdick

Or, put in more modern terms by Coyote Blog:

1. I have observed before that many Nanny-state initiatives are driven by politician’s own personal experience and weaknesses. Mike Huckabee started a kids obesity program because he had trouble with his weight, and now Barack Obama regulates tobacco because he has had trouble quitting smoking:

Obama, who has spoken of his own struggle to quit smoking, praised the bill, saying it “will make history by giving the scientists and medical experts at the FDA the power to take sensible steps.”

Couldn’t politicians just focus on their own behavior without projecting their personal weaknesses on me? Let’s just be glad that we avoided whatever regulatory regime that would have occurred had these guys had a male enhancement issue.

127 gmsc  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 12:24:14am

re: #125 davinvalkri

Whose phone number is that exactly? The number's from some 80s pop song, but I can't place the name...

Jenny.

128 Digital Display  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 12:24:43am

re: #125 davinvalkri

Whose phone number is that exactly? The number's from some 80s pop song, but I can't place the name...

Jenny Jenny ..Who can I turn too?

129 axegrinder  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 12:24:44am

re: #94 IslandLibertarian

B-b-but Pelosi says she's going to pay for health care with higher taxes. Since Obama PROMISED he wouldn't raise taxes on the middle class we should be alright, right?/

We're going to stick it to the rich and help out the poor people and we're all going to feel better and the world will love us again, right?

Kum-by-ya....

130 redc1c4  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 12:24:54am

re: #125 davinvalkri

Whose phone number is that exactly? The number's from some 80s pop song, but I can't place the name...

131 Sharmuta  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 12:25:17am

I think 867-5309 is the only phone number the LGF filter doesn't catch.

132 Gus  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 12:25:35am

Tommy Tutone - Jenny

133 Syrah  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 12:25:36am

re: #108 redc1c4

i must have missed that one....... worm class was the best two days of 91Q training.

The worm part of the show was interesting (Tapeworm). It was the antisemitism that caught me off guard. I did not expect it. Is the guy supposed to be a jerk because he is dying from a painful and incurable disease al la Doc Holiday, or does he suffer from Tourette Syndrome?

134 gmsc  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 12:26:00am

re: #125 davinvalkri

Whose phone number is that exactly? The number's from some 80s pop song, but I can't place the name...

135 Fenway_Nation  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 12:26:02am

re: #123 redc1c4

Never paid close attention to much outside the 11 range.

136 gmsc  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 12:26:31am

re: #132 Gus 802

Tommy Tutone - Jenny


[Video]

re: #134 gmsc

[Video]

Congrats! You beat me to the exact same video!

137 IslandLibertarian  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 12:26:51am

re: #111 Sharmuta

All I can say is this is not an unimportant issue. It is the echo of continuous slander.
What can you do? That is for you to decide. Are you involved with your political party?
Are you writing letters? Do you try to educate your friends about the fiscal crisis we are facing? If yes, God Bless YOU!
I will never consider the Liberal spew unimportant.

Peace

138 axegrinder  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 12:27:05am

re: #103 Gus 802

Yeah, doesn't matter to me either. I don't watch TV but watch what I can online and for free.

Interesting. I stopped my satellite service a couple of months ago as well. If this is the trend, cable is in trouble.

139 Gus  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 12:27:07am

re: #136 gmsc

Congrats! You beat me to the exact same video!

I sorted by rating and went from there. You?

140 davinvalkri  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 12:27:09am

re: #133 Syrah

The worm part of the show was interesting (Tapeworm). It was the antisemitism that caught me off guard. I did not expect it. Is the guy supposed to be a jerk because he is dying from a painful and incurable disease al la Doc Holiday, or does he suffer from Tourette Syndrome?

My time on tvtropes.org tells me that the character is essentially misanthropic. He figures his patients lie to him all the time, is on painkillers for a gamy leg, and is generally an ass to his interns and colleagues. Why the hospital keeps him on I'll never know.

141 IslandLibertarian  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 12:27:18am

re: #115 redc1c4

i thought it was 867-5309.......

that's Jenni.............

142 gmsc  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 12:27:22am

re: #139 Gus 802

I sorted by rating and went from there. You?

Searched Google Video.

143 Digital Display  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 12:27:27am

re: #131 Sharmuta

I think 867-5309 is the only phone number the LGF filter doesn't catch.

Why is my phone ringing at 3:30am? Stop calling Lizards! Jenny doesn't live here..She went to work for america-corp in Africa

144 IslandLibertarian  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 12:27:57am

re: #117 FurryOldGuyJeans

I already have one of those I am trying to ignore, thank you very much.

I collect 'em...

145 axegrinder  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 12:28:06am

re: #130 redc1c4

Some ho's number on a bathroom stall. Jenny I think.

146 redc1c4  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 12:28:15am

re: #133 Syrah

The worm part of the show was interesting (Tapeworm). It was the antisemitism that caught me off guard. I did not expect it. Is the guy supposed to be a jerk because he is dying from a painful and incurable disease al la Doc Holiday, or does he suffer from Tourette Syndrome?

house is just a curmudgeonly misanthrope: he doesn't like anybody.

never seen an anti-semetic twist to it, but then again, HRH watches more than i do.

147 redc1c4  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 12:28:43am

re: #135 Fenway_Nation

Never paid close attention to much outside the 11 range.

which is where i started....... Harmony Church FTW!

148 Fenway_Nation  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 12:28:47am

re: #140 davinvalkri

Gotta love TV Tropes....even the head honco Lizard gets a shout-out.

149 Killian Bundy  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 12:28:50am

re: #125 davinvalkri

Whose phone number is that exactly? The number's from some 80s pop song, but I can't place the name...

/dial it in the Minneapolis/St. Paul area and you get Benjamin Franklin Plumbing – The Punctual Plumber

150 Sharmuta  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 12:28:54am

I had a cousin one year dress up as a cell phone for Halloween. The number on his "display" was: Jenny 867-5309.

151 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 12:29:00am

re: #124 Gus 802

The dude was weird. Got pretty vile towards the end before he was blocked.

At least he was an entertaining troll while he lasted. A.W. is just plain boring snark.

152 Gus  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 12:29:14am

re: #138 axegrinder

Interesting. I stopped my satellite service a couple of months ago as well. If this is the trend, cable is in trouble.

I think more people aren't watching TV. Wasn't too common several years ago but it's becoming a trend. There's better options like reading and just watching a DVD of a movie. Hulu has some decent movies here and there. No more commercials! Well, less anyway.

153 Killian Bundy  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 12:29:52am

re: #149 Killian Bundy

/Jenny the punctual plumber

154 redc1c4  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 12:30:09am

re: #145 axegrinder

Some ho's number on a bathroom stall. Jenny I think.

keyboard ate my answer

"i got it off the wall...."

155 Sharmuta  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 12:30:11am

re: #137 IslandLibertarian

I'm currently in a planning mode. I have plans, and people to help me.

156 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 12:30:35am

re: #150 Sharmuta

I had a cousin one year dress up as a cell phone for Halloween. The number on his "display" was: Jenny 867-5309.

And I thought being a large paper-mache pumpkin was cute, right up to when it started raining.

157 davinvalkri  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 12:30:45am

Okay, I ask the question "who's the girl in "867-5309" and get near a half-dozen answers, at least two with video, in six minutes or less. Screw google!

158 Gus  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 12:30:45am

re: #151 FurryOldGuyJeans

At least he was an entertaining troll while he lasted. A.W. is just plain boring snark.

True. That must be why OBA claimed he earned $400/hr yet couldn't finish a sentence or a thought. AW is a cut and paste nut.

159 Rustler  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 12:30:59am

re: #125 davinvalkri Jenny's number Tommi Twotone song.

160 redc1c4  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 12:31:05am

re: #152 Gus 802

I think more people aren't watching TV. Wasn't too common several years ago but it's becoming a trend. There's better options like reading and just watching a DVD of a movie. Hulu has some decent movies here and there. No more commercials! Well, less anyway.

we didn't even turn ours on tonight, to see what, if anything we could pick up.

/still haven't installed the converters.

161 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 12:31:53am

re: #152 Gus 802

I think more people aren't watching TV. Wasn't too common several years ago but it's becoming a trend. There's better options like reading and just watching a DVD of a movie. Hulu has some decent movies here and there. No more commercials! Well, less anyway.

I watch TV, just older shows like I Spy, McHale's Navy, M*A*S*H, and the like, all on DVD.

162 IslandLibertarian  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 12:31:59am

re: #155 Sharmuta

Godspeed!

163 Gus  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 12:32:06am

re: #160 redc1c4

we didn't even turn ours on tonight, to see what, if anything we could pick up.

/still haven't installed the converters.

I gave my coupons (for the convertors) to a friend.

164 gmsc  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 12:32:12am

re: #157 davinvalkri

Okay, I ask the question "who's the girl in "867-5309" and get near a half-dozen answers, at least two with video, in six minutes or less. Screw google!

That's nothing. Google returns 195,000 responses in .08 seconds!

165 Rustler  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 12:32:16am

re: #114 Fenway_Nation
91 series should be medical thought 91q was er nurse?

166 davinvalkri  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 12:32:20am

re: #160 redc1c4

we didn't even turn ours on tonight, to see what, if anything we could pick up.

/still haven't installed the converters.

Remind me again why it was so important we all go digital again?

167 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 12:32:50am

re: #144 IslandLibertarian

I collect 'em...

I can give you mine, real cheap. ;)

168 gmsc  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 12:33:26am

re: #166 davinvalkri

Remind me again why it was so important we all go digital again?

Because it's digital, and digital is better than analog, so digital should be the one true way, and because, er, um . . .

/////

169 Gus  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 12:33:36am

re: #161 FurryOldGuyJeans

I watch TV, just older shows like I Spy, McHale's Navy, M*A*S*H, and the like, all on DVD.

McHale's Navy was a great show. Early MASH was really good too. I have a thing about Rockford Files and Simon and Simon. Don't get those shows anymore. Everything's kind of weird on TV these days.

170 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 12:34:36am

re: #166 davinvalkri

Remind me again why it was so important we all go digital again?

Bandwidth usage. Digital will allow more channels with less bandwidth being used. And the picture will be crystal clear.

171 redc1c4  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 12:35:13am

re: #166 davinvalkri

Remind me again why it was so important we all go digital again?

so they could resell that bandwidth so someone else..... the digital transmissions are UHF, and the old channels were VHF

172 Digital Display  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 12:35:16am

re: #166 davinvalkri

Remind me again why it was so important we all go digital again?

It frees up a shit load of bandwidth...We can divide those freq's up for cell phone and digital uses...

173 gmsc  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 12:35:19am

re: #169 Gus 802

McHale's Navy was a great show. Early MASH was really good too. I have a thing about Rockford Files and Simon and Simon. Don't get those shows anymore. Everything's kind of weird on TV these days.

No, no. It's "edgy"!

////

BTW, here's the best new show on TV, IMHO.

174 IslandLibertarian  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 12:35:24am

Time to hit the books....big test in 1 1/2 weeks.........and it's all because of "The New World Order"........(at least that's my theory on it)
later 'tiles

175 redc1c4  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 12:35:42am

re: #170 FurryOldGuyJeans

Bandwidth usage. Digital will allow more channels with less bandwidth being used. And the picture will be crystal clear.

however, the programming will still be tripe.

176 Rustler  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 12:35:45am

re: #140 davinvalkri Because he's supposedly a brilliant Doctor, and some exceptions must be made for brilliance.

177 Sharmuta  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 12:35:58am

re: #166 davinvalkri

Remind me again why it was so important we all go digital again?

The power of George Lucas compels us. The power of George Lucas compels us. The power of George Lucas compels us. The power of George Lucas compels us.

178 davinvalkri  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 12:36:09am

re: #170 FurryOldGuyJeans

Bandwidth usage. Digital will allow more channels with less bandwidth being used. And the picture will be crystal clear.

Sure, but now?! In the middle of all kinds of economic crap, the government is subsidizing the conversion? WTF?
Oh, and as to what you could watch with your shiny new converter box that's not overly liberal or insane...
Jeopardy, Mythbusters, Good Eats, Band of Brothers. Ha!

179 Gus  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 12:36:30am

re: #173 gmsc

No, no. It's "edgy"!

////

BTW, here's the best new show on TV, IMHO.

Ah! You caught me! I admit. I watched all three of the episodes online. It's pretty funny and accurate.

180 IslandLibertarian  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 12:36:40am

re: #170 FurryOldGuyJeans

Bandwidth usage. Digital will allow more channels with less bandwidth being used. And the picture will be crystal clear.

and easier to control our imaginations.........

/ok, really going to study NOW.

181 axegrinder  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 12:36:40am

re: #156 FurryOldGuyJeans

And I thought being a large paper-mache pumpkin was cute, right up to when it started raining.

Depends whos wearing it. If it's you, probably not so cute(no offense) if it's, say, Jessica Alba, then pretty damn cute.

182 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 12:36:52am

re: #173 gmsc

No, no. It's "edgy"!

////

BTW, here's the best new show on TV, IMHO.

Another show I will not watch, thanks for the heads up.

183 redc1c4  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 12:37:33am

re: #165 Rustler

91 series should be medical thought 91q was er nurse?

91 is no longer medical, as of a few years ago.... it's now eighty something.

Q has been Rx Tech since well before 92.....

184 gmsc  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 12:38:00am

re: #182 FurryOldGuyJeans

Another show I will not watch, thanks for the heads up.

Why not? It's constantly poking fun at the Al Gore crowd!

185 Rustler  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 12:38:47am

re: #166 davinvalkri //To make people buy new tv's to stimulate the economy.

186 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 12:40:05am

re: #178 davinvalkri

Sure, but now?! In the middle of all kinds of economic crap, the government is subsidizing the conversion? WTF?
Oh, and as to what you could watch with your shiny new converter box that's not overly liberal or insane...
Jeopardy, Mythbusters, Good Eats, Band of Brothers. Ha!

The transition was scheduled to happen years ago, was scheduled to happen back in February, but was delayed to let Congress throw a few more millions into subsidizing converters.

From a purely technical standpoint the transition is one of the best things to happen during these bad economic times, the bandwidth that is freed up will be better used by new technologies that might drive the next upswing.

187 redc1c4  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 12:40:12am

re: #184 gmsc

Why not? It's constantly poking fun at the Al Gore crowd!

not sure if it was that one, but likely: we heard all the rave reviews this spring so we tried it out.

after about 5 mikes, we looked at each other and both said "next".

"television is called a medium because it is neither rare, nor well done."
Ernie Kovacs

188 redc1c4  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 12:40:38am

re: #186 FurryOldGuyJeans

The transition was scheduled to happen years ago, was scheduled to happen back in February, but was delayed to let Congress throw a few more millions into subsidizing converters.

From a purely technical standpoint the transition is one of the best things to happen during these bad economic times, the bandwidth that is freed up will be better used by new technologies that might drive the next upswing.

what upswing, inflation?

189 Gus  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 12:40:40am

re: #184 gmsc

Why not? It's constantly poking fun at the Al Gore crowd!

Call 1-800- What Would Algore Do?

Some of the characters are a bit neurotic though which can be unnerving to some viewers. I'm still testing the waters.

190 davinvalkri  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 12:41:17am

re: #186 FurryOldGuyJeans

The transition was scheduled to happen years ago, was scheduled to happen back in February, but was delayed to let Congress throw a few more millions into subsidizing converters.

From a purely technical standpoint the transition is one of the best things to happen during these bad economic times, the bandwidth that is freed up will be better used by new technologies that might drive the next upswing.

Fair enough, but why does the government need to provide the free coupons?

191 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 12:41:55am

re: #188 redc1c4

what upswing, inflation?

The next economic upswing, at least that is the theory. We all know how good theory matches political shenanigans.

192 axegrinder  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 12:42:13am

NCIS is the best show on tv right now i think. I download it off the internet. I used to watch JAG and CSI:New York.

193 Rustler  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 12:42:18am

re: #183 redc1c4
Ahh so the infantry change swept thru the rest of the army with the MOS changes?

194 Gus  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 12:42:40am

re: #190 davinvalkri

Fair enough, but why does the government need to provide the free coupons?

Payback to the telecom lobbyists. Sort of like the farm subsidies.

195 gmsc  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 12:42:50am

re: #189 Gus 802

Call 1-800- What Would Algore Do?

Some of the characters are a bit neurotic though which can be unnerving to some viewers. I'm still testing the waters.

It seems like Mike Judge has taken a few notes on humor from Futurama since he did King of the Hill. As far as his style goes, I think it has improved!

196 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 12:44:44am

re: #190 davinvalkri

Fair enough, but why does the government need to provide the free coupons?

For poor people is the theory, those who can't afford to buy a digital/HD TV. After the transition anyone with an older NTSC TV who doesn't have cable, satellite, or a converter will lose TV access.

This is the theory being pushed by Congress, not me. You really expect Congress to pass up the opportunity to buy votes?

197 Sharmuta  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 12:45:35am

Getting back to "Smilla" again- I also wonder where it is written that all political blogs have to cover the same stories. I mean- how dare some blog owner do their own thing. Some nerve, going your own way and not parroting talking points.

It's an outrage, I tell you. An outrage! Just slightly less of an outrage than letterman, but still. Outrageous!

198 Gus  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 12:45:51am

re: #195 gmsc

It seems like Mike Judge has taken a few notes on humor from Futurama since he did King of the Hill. As far as his style goes, I think it has improved!

True. "Bantu" the adopted white South African that gets "African American" put on his drivers license. Some of that stuff you couldn't get away with in a mainstream office environment and especially in a gubernment job.

199 redc1c4  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 12:46:20am

re: #193 Rustler

Ahh so the infantry change swept thru the rest of the army with the MOS changes?

don't know about that: 11 was one of the few enlisted MOS numbers to *not* change. in my 20 years of laughing at stupid ideas, it strikes me as one of the dumbest, and that's saying a boat load.

200 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 12:47:07am

re: #197 Sharmuta

Getting back to "Smilla" again- I also wonder where it is written that all political blogs have to cover the same stories. I mean- how dare some blog owner do their own thing. Some nerve, going your own way and not parroting talking points.

It's an outrage, I tell you. An outrage! Just slightly less of an outrage than letterman, but still. Outrageous!

I'm doing my part in "punishing" Letterman; I ain't watching him.

I've never watched him, so I am the man's Marquis de Sade. ;)

201 gmsc  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 12:48:48am

re: #198 Gus 802

True. "Bantu" the adopted white South African that gets "African American" put on his drivers license. Some of that stuff you couldn't get away with in a mainstream office environment and especially in a gubernment job.

I love in the first episode, when they go into the "One Earth" grocery store ("Save-Mart?!? We can't go there! They don't even have a mission statement!"), and there's a board about what is considered good, and what is considered bad among environmentalists. If you watch closely, some of the same things change sides several times in the same minute.

202 Fenway_Nation  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 12:49:06am

I'd watch Letterman if they had 'Very special surprise guest Todd Palin' make an appearence.

203 Killian Bundy  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 12:49:09am

Wow, before I forget, Greg Gutfeld just made the comparison that sending 13 Uighurs to Palau is the population equivalent of sending 181.000 Uighurs to the United States.

/I guess $200 million goes a long way for accepting 13 Uighurs even if the accepting population doesn't want them

204 Gus  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 12:49:50am

re: #197 Sharmuta

Getting back to "Smilla" again- I also wonder where it is written that all political blogs have to cover the same stories. I mean- how dare some blog owner do their own thing. Some nerve, going your own way and not parroting talking points.

It's an outrage, I tell you. An outrage! Just slightly less of an outrage than letterman, but still. Outrageous!

The kicker is that it was discussed by folks at LGF. I saw it but didn't take part. And we've covered that and more at LGF more so than the other blogs these whiners keep referencing.

205 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 12:49:51am

re: #199 redc1c4

don't know about that: 11 was one of the few enlisted MOS numbers to *not* change. in my 20 years of laughing at stupid ideas, it strikes me as one of the dumbest, and that's saying a boat load.

You must have busted a gut at the Navy's attempt to use a system for tracking aircraft maintenance the Air Force determined was totally and completely unusable, VIDS-MAF.

206 redc1c4  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 12:49:55am

make that "2 shots, 2 kills"...... the first one squealed as he dropped off the feeder and out of the tree..... the 2nd one, not so much. just a wet thud and a quiet tumble to the ground. both bodies will be gone before dawn.

207 Digital Display  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 12:50:25am

re: #203 Killian Bundy

Wow, before I forget, Greg Gutfeld just made the comparison that sending 13 Uighurs to Palau is the population equivalent of sending 181.000 Uighurs to the United States.

/I guess $200 million goes a long way for accepting 13 Uighurs even if the accepting population doesn't want them

You send me 200 million and I'll lock all those fuckers in my basement...

208 gmsc  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 12:50:30am

re: #202 Fenway_Nation

I'd watch Letterman if they had 'Very special surprise guest Todd Palin' make an appearence.

Probably best to keep the Palins, especially Willow, away from David Letterman.

209 capitalist piglet  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 12:50:37am

re: #202 Fenway_Nation

I'd watch Letterman if they had 'Very special surprise guest Todd Palin' make an appearence.

Yep. This stuff would stop like a watch at Hiroshima.

210 davinvalkri  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 12:51:14am

re: #202 Fenway_Nation

I'd watch Letterman if they had 'Very special surprise guest Todd Palin' make an appearence.

Would there be blood?

211 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 12:51:30am

re: #204 Gus 802

The kicker is that it was discussed by folks at LGF. I saw it but didn't take part. And we've covered that and more at LGF more so than the other blogs these whiners keep referencing.

That is the usual problem with the whiners, they are a day late and a dollar short coming to a party already over. We'd already done our dance and moved on by the time most of these idiots read about it at the other blogs.

212 Sharmuta  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 12:51:45am

re: #204 Gus 802

The kicker is that it was discussed by folks at LGF. I saw it but didn't take part. And we've covered that and more at LGF more so than the other blogs these whiners keep referencing.

If it's not a front page post, some people think we haven't discussed it. I think it shows ignorance of how LGF functions, frankly.

213 Killian Bundy  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 12:51:50am

re: #203 Killian Bundy

Wow, before I forget, Greg Gutfeld just made the comparison that sending 13 Uighurs to Palau is the population equivalent of sending 181.000 Uighurs to the United States.

/I guess $200 million goes a long way for accepting 13 Uighurs even if the accepting population doesn't want them

They were at Tora Bora.

/China wants all their Uighurs back, save the U.S. taxpayers the #200 million and only TOTUS knows what else he's promised

214 freetoken  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 12:52:00am

re: #160 redc1c4

we didn't even turn ours on tonight, to see what, if anything we could pick up.

/still haven't installed the converters.

Not having a TV, the whole deadline thing went past me without a notice... It wasn't until I saw a story on the BBC website today that I remembered there even was a deadline for the switch-off.

215 redc1c4  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 12:52:18am

re: #205 FurryOldGuyJeans

You must have busted a gut at the Navy's attempt to use a system for tracking aircraft maintenance the Air Force determined was totally and completely unusable, VIDS-MAF.

missed that: the army is an endless source of entertainment to the properly cynical experienced trooper, as are the koolade drinkers who get mad at you because you're laughing and asking uncomfortable questions.

216 Sharmuta  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 12:52:40am

re: #214 freetoken

Not having a TV, the whole deadline thing went past me without a notice... It wasn't until I saw a story on the BBC website today that I remembered there even was a deadline for the switch-off.

I'm planning on being the last American to convert to digital. :D

217 redc1c4  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 12:53:07am

re: #207 HoosierHoops

You send me 200 million and I'll lock all those fuckers in my basement...

they can stay in my backyard...... i figure each one will feed the raccoons for a week or so.

218 Rustler  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 12:53:26am

re: #199 redc1c4 they kept the 11 but were converting everyone to 11x when I got out generic infantry with Identifyers for mos following paygrade like p for airborne and v for ranger but now its supposed to be 11x2m for an e5 mech infantry instead of 11m2 like it used to be.

219 redc1c4  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 12:53:31am

re: #216 Sharmuta

I'm planning on being the last American to convert to digital. :D

you don't use your fingers?

220 Gus  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 12:54:05am

re: #211 FurryOldGuyJeans

re: #212 Sharmuta

Exactly. And one has to really pay attention. The generalizations are mind boggling.

221 redc1c4  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 12:55:02am

re: #218 Rustler

they kept the 11 but were converting everyone to 11x when I got out generic infantry with Identifyers for mos following paygrade like p for airborne and v for ranger but now its supposed to be 11x2m for an e5 mech infantry instead of 11m2 like it used to be.

how stupid........ and how typical.

i was 11H10/B10, long ago.

222 davinvalkri  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 12:55:09am

re: #219 redc1c4

you don't use your fingers?

Boo!

223 Rustler  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 12:55:15am

re: #203 Killian Bundy
Plus the 200 million is far more than that countied GDP. Palau's GDP is about 150-160million with approximately 120 million of that coming as a result of the scuba diving and sorkeling industry.

224 redc1c4  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 12:55:56am

re: #212 Sharmuta

If it's not a front page post, some people think we haven't discussed it. I think it shows ignorance of how LGF functions, frankly.

are these formal functions?

/damn dress code nazis

225 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 12:56:32am

re: #212 Sharmuta

If it's not a front page post, some people think we haven't discussed it. I think it shows ignorance of how LGF functions, frankly.

Some people just don't realize lgf is the leader in most things, not the follower.

But let 'em come here and whine, I've got a gnarly hand-carved cane I can use to "larn 'em".

226 Rustler  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 12:56:44am

re: #221 redc1c4
Yep what is it 173,000 enlisted and about 9,000 officers in hte army but infantry MOS's had to change. Probably because the Lt's couldn't figure it out if the change hit them.

227 redc1c4  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 12:57:13am

that's it: i'm for bed, after a good evenings w*rk.

enjoy the fruitcup, and tell LoL i still owe her a phone call... if i can find her number on the wall. %-)

/white smoke

L8r!

228 Killian Bundy  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 12:57:15am

re: #216 Sharmuta

I'm planning on being the last American to convert to digital. :D

Good for you.

/as of now, you have zero TV channels and you're going to pay, by weight, to recycle any old TVs you have

229 Gus  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 12:57:25am

re: #223 Rustler

Plus the 200 million is far more than that countied GDP. Palau's GDP is about 150-160million with approximately 120 million of that coming as a result of the scuba diving and sorkeling industry.

160 million? That's enough for 21 snub-nosed monkey feng shut habitats.

Sans the monkeys.

//

230 Sharmuta  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 12:57:25am

re: #224 redc1c4

are these formal functions?

/damn dress code nazis

It's only formal when littleoldlady breaks out the linen napkins.

231 Rustler  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 12:57:44am

re: #226 Rustler

infantryEnlisted MOS's


Fixed it.

232 Gus  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 12:58:01am

re: #229 Gus 802

Oops.

Feng shui.

233 gmsc  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 12:59:43am

re: #229 Gus 802

160 million? That's enough for 21 snub-nosed monkey feng shut habitats.

Sans the monkeys.

//

re: #232 Gus 802

Oops.

Feng shui.

I like "feng shut" better.
;)

234 axegrinder  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 12:59:53am

re: #217 redc1c4

they can stay in my backyard...... i figure each one will feed the raccoons for a week or so.

Yeah, I always figured an easy fix would be a horrible mishap enroute to wherever they're being transferred. Use an air france jet or one of those rafts the Cubans or Haitians are always capsizing.

just sayin'

235 littleoldlady  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 1:00:37am

Oy. My number is on yet ANOTHER wall?!

re: #230 Sharmuta

It's only formal when littleoldlady breaks out the linen napkins.

And the family silver...

236 Gus  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 1:00:59am

re: #233 gmsc

I like "feng shut" better.
;)

Yeah. Feng shut sounds like the anti feng shui.

237 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 1:01:16am

re: #226 Rustler

And here, having been Navy, I only had to learn a bunch of symbols.

238 redc1c4  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 1:01:22am

re: #226 Rustler

Yep what is it 173,000 enlisted and about 9,000 officers in hte army but infantry MOS's had to change. Probably because the Lt's couldn't figure it out if the change hit them.

i got in trouble once (teetee trouble) for saying, where his nibs could hear, that the only reason there were officers in the army was to attend meetings and to sign for stuff.

Top asked me why i said it, and i replied "because it's true"..... Top: "well yes, but did you HAVE to say it where Lt Lew could hear you?".....

what a useless turd he was..... we gave him a Report of Survey as a going away gift when he was transferred: ~$40K bet he learned to do 10% monthly inventories after that.

239 Gus  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 1:02:15am

OK, I keep seeing Flyers1974 posting in LGF Spy but don't see them here. Am I imagining things?

240 Sharmuta  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 1:02:48am

re: #239 Gus 802

I think it's an overnight thread from the other night.

241 Sharmuta  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 1:03:22am

re: #240 Sharmuta

I think it's an overnight thread from the other night.

Yep- last night's.

242 Gus  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 1:03:29am

re: #240 Sharmuta

I think it's an overnight thread from the other night.

Ah, OK. I thought that might be the case early on.

243 Digital Display  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 1:03:56am

re: #235 littleoldlady

Oy. My number is on yet ANOTHER wall?!

And the family silver...

Littleoldlady!

244 littleoldlady  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 1:04:33am

Hoosier! :-)

Wow! Up early?

245 Digital Display  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 1:05:36am

re: #244 littleoldlady

Hoosier! :-)

Wow! Up early?

I'm on Vacation..Flying up north to go fishing Monday at my Cabin..Having fun!

246 Sharmuta  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 1:06:23am

re: #235 littleoldlady

Oy. My number is on yet ANOTHER wall?!

You're so famous, you're infamous.

247 gmsc  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 1:07:05am

re: #235 littleoldlady

Oy. My number is on yet ANOTHER wall?!

And the family silver...

littleoldjenny?

248 littleoldlady  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 1:07:30am

re: #245 HoosierHoops

Oh boy! Have lots of fun! :-)

re: #246 Sharmuta

Sharmuta! :-)

I see we're continuing the conversation from last night... ;-)

249 littleoldlady  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 1:08:16am

re: #247 gmsc

gmsc! :-)

I guess I need more coffee...

/who's Jenny?

250 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 1:08:39am

re: #237 FurryOldGuyJeans

And here, having been Navy, I only had to learn a bunch of symbols.

Oh, bloody hell! No more Mess Specialists?!?

This new Navy sucks! ;)

251 Sharmuta  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 1:09:06am

re: #249 littleoldlady

/who's Jenny?

Some chick- supposedly you call her for a good time. I got her number off the wall.

252 gmsc  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 1:09:09am

re: #249 littleoldlady

gmsc! :-)

I guess I need more coffee...

/who's Jenny?

I thought "your number off the wall" referred to the song "Jenny", better known as "867-5309".

253 Killian Bundy  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 1:09:27am

So, TOTUS has no problem continuing the extraordinary rendition program that sends terrorists to countries like Egypt or Syria to do the torture that we won't do and TOTUS gets all sanctimonious about torture.

It's crazy. We routinely send terrorist to other countries to be proxy tortured in our name.

/and yet we'll pay $200 million+ to keep our handful of Chinese Uighur terrorists away from China who emphatically wants their citizens for free

254 Fenway_Nation  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 1:09:54am

re: #245 HoosierHoops

You bringing the grenades?

255 littleoldlady  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 1:09:58am

There's a song about it? I just remember it as an old joke...

256 Gus  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 1:10:00am

Still the best sounding version on Youtube...

Little Old Lady from Pasadena

The California of lore.

257 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 1:10:25am

re: #253 Killian Bundy

So, TOTUS has no problem continuing the extraordinary rendition program that sends terrorists to countries like Egypt or Syria to do the torture that we won't do and TOTUS gets all sanctimonious about torture.

It's crazy. We routinely send terrorist to other countries to be proxy tortured in our name.

/and yet we'll pay $200 million+ to keep our handful of Chinese Uighur terrorists away from China who emphatically wants their citizens for free

And we piss off the Brits for a twofer with the Uighur fiasco.

258 littleoldlady  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 1:11:46am

Hiya, Gus! :-)

259 Gus  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 1:12:25am

re: #258 littleoldlady

Hiya, Gus! :-)

Howdy Littleoldlady. LTNS. Hope all is well.

260 Sharmuta  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 1:12:28am

Militants kill 5 Philippine marines in ambush

Al-Qaida-linked militants holding an Italian Red Cross worker captive killed five Philippine marines and wounded 10 others in an ambush Saturday on a southern island. One police officer was wounded.

261 gmsc  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 1:13:01am

re: #255 littleoldlady

There's a song about it? I just remember it as an old joke...

Yep! See #132.

That's probably where the joke started.

262 Sharmuta  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 1:13:13am

W D "LTNS" M?

263 Fenway_Nation  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 1:13:22am

re: #257 FurryOldGuyJeans

And we piss off the Brits for a twofer with the Uighur fiasco.

The Uiguhrs got better DVDs than Gordon Brown?

264 Gus  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 1:13:29am

re: #262 Sharmuta

W D "LTNS" M?

Long time no see.

265 Digital Display  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 1:13:49am

I just watched the most bizarre movie of all time..The way of the gun...
The last line of the movie...Somebody says Your prayers are always answered just not in the order they are received....
Damn... alot of people got shot...so this is life at 4am

266 gmsc  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 1:14:11am

re: #262 Sharmuta

W D "LTNS" M?

Late Night Niking Stread?

(Translation: You've had too much of the LNDT!)

267 Sharmuta  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 1:14:11am

re: #264 Gus 802

TY. IJNTGAGWTTM.

268 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 1:14:37am

Privacy May Be a Victim in Cyberdefense Plan
By THOM SHANKER and DAVID E. SANGER
Published: June 12, 2009
The New York Times

WASHINGTON — A plan to create a new Pentagon cybercommand is raising significant privacy and diplomatic concerns, as the Obama administration moves ahead on efforts to protect the nation from cyberattack and to prepare for possible offensive operations against adversaries’ computer networks.

President Obama has said that the new cyberdefense strategy he unveiled last month will provide protections for personal privacy and civil liberties. But senior Pentagon and military officials say that Mr. Obama’s assurances may be challenging to guarantee in practice, particularly in trying to monitor the thousands of daily attacks on security systems in the United States that have set off a race to develop better cyberweapons.

Much of the new military command’s work is expected to be carried out by the National Security Agency, whose role in intercepting the domestic end of international calls and e-mail messages after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks, under secret orders issued by the Bush administration, has already generated intense controversy.

There is simply no way, the officials say, to effectively conduct computer operations without entering networks inside the United States, where the military is prohibited from operating, or traveling electronic paths through countries that are not themselves American targets.

269 Rustler  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 1:14:57am

I'm still curious how the hell Animal planet thinks the little note about the views expressed in the following program are not the views of the program or it's sponsers get's it out of the responsibility it has for paying these people to sabotage a foreign countries ships. It's in the opening credits how there big reason is to disable the Nishimaru(the flag ship of the japanese whaling fleet which processes the Whales.) These things are acts of piracy. I used to get a laugh at em because they seemed so incompetant but the more I see the more I worry these idiots will do something serious. I just hope they are finally captured and tried as pirates.

270 littleoldlady  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 1:15:29am

re: #261 gmsc

Um...I do believe the joke is a bit older than the 80's, gmsc.

/gah. whippersnappers! ;-)

271 Gus  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 1:15:30am

re: #267 Sharmuta

TY. IJNTGAGWTTM.

Que?

272 Sharmuta  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 1:16:01am

re: #271 Gus 802

I was making a joke.

273 gmsc  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 1:16:18am

re: #270 littleoldlady

Um...I do believe the joke is a bit older than the 80's, gmsc.

/gah. whippersnappers! ;-)

I think I'm missing something here. What the joke, exactly?

274 littleoldlady  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 1:16:40am

Sharmuta,

Thanks for asking!

/was about to take out the IV for inserting coffee into my brain ;-)

275 Gus  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 1:17:41am

re: #272 Sharmuta

I was making a joke.

Ah OK. That's sort of like when I say something like COMNAVNERVPERSPLANT. It's a direct order to a Corporal-Captain-CPO.

//

276 littleoldlady  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 1:17:49am

re: #273 gmsc

"For a good time, call _____" is older than an 80's song.

/anyone have any Advil™?

278 gmsc  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 1:18:49am

re: #276 littleoldlady

"For a good time, call _____" is older than an 80's song.

/anyone have any Advil™?

OH - the graffiti. Got it. Thanks!

279 Fenway_Nation  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 1:19:14am

re: #269 Rustler

Not neccecarily- but like I posted earlier, they've worn out their welcome with their shennanigans, too:

Earlier this month, Sea Shepherd leader Paul Watson - the environmentalist attention hog who spent most of the summer provoking Japanese whalers - issued a statement following the drowning deaths of three seal hunters north of Cape Breton. Seal hunters are "baby killers", wrote Watson, who "are seeking sympathy because some of their own died".

The anti-human tubster went on to describe the seal hunt as an "even greater tragedy" than the men's deaths. A few days later, fishermen led by Carl Beaupertuis advanced on Watson's ship while it was docked at St. Pierre, a French island off the Canadian coast, chopped through its lines with axes, and chased the Sea Sheperders away.

"We cut the ropes because the fishermen of St. Pierre don't accept what Paul Watson said," Beaupertuis told The Canadian Press. "He's not allowed to come in the harbour any more. It's finished for him."

Watson squealed about possible legal action, but French government official Andre Varcin was charmingly dismissive. "The prosecutor will deliver some reprimands and warnings, but I don't think there will be any convictions," he shrugged. Asked if Watson would be allowed to return, Varcin said: "He can return at his own risk and peril."

Hero quote, from fisherman Carl: "We don't accept those kinds of people in St. Pierre. If they want to come back, I tell you this time there's going to be some violence, 'cause we won't let him back in the harbour. No way."

280 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 1:21:25am

re: #275 Gus 802

Ah OK. That's sort of like when I say something like COMNAVNERVPERSPLANT. It's a direct order to a Corporal-Captain-CPO.

//

Might you have meant COMNAVSURFLANT? ;)

281 Gus  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 1:21:37am

re: #277 gmsc

Who is the last celebrity you would expect to be tired of seeing 0bama on TV?

He's actually surpassed my Britney Spears quota. Sometime around June of last year. I still see him when I'm buying a soft drink and in the magazine racks.

282 Sharmuta  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 1:22:54am
283 Gus  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 1:23:39am

re: #280 FurryOldGuyJeans

Might you have meant COMNAVSURFLANT? ;)

Nice. I knew right away it was the Atlantic fleet. Command Navy Surface Fleet Atlantic. Right?

284 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 1:23:47am

re: #282 Sharmuta

I would have guessed Oprah.

I was thinking the same thing, but then reality struck and I realized she will never tire of the Chosen One.

285 Sharmuta  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 1:24:39am

re: #284 FurryOldGuyJeans

I was thinking the same thing, but then reality struck and I realized she will never tire of the Chosen One.

That's why she's the last one I'd think would be sick of him.

286 Gus  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 1:24:46am

re: #282 Sharmuta

I would have guessed Oprah.

Obama

Oprah

//

287 Killian Bundy  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 1:25:12am

ECOMCON

COINTELPRO

/like that

288 gmsc  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 1:25:23am

re: #284 FurryOldGuyJeans

I was thinking the same thing, but then reality struck and I realized she will never tire of the Chosen One.

You can pull any kind of wool (or any other fiber) over Oprah's eyes, though. She' convinced that all 0bama has to do to fix the economy is to visualize hard enough and read all the books put out by "The Secret" publishers.

289 Gus  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 1:27:03am

Obama is the new Uma.

Uma

Oprah

Obama

//Brought to you by Coke Zero.

/

290 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 1:27:08am

re: #283 Gus 802

Nice. I knew right away it was the Atlantic fleet. Command Navy Surface Fleet Atlantic. Right?

Commander, Naval Surface Force, U.S. Atlantic Fleet actually.

You have no idea much I was trying to decipher the gibberish you wrote. Something dealing with Atlantic personnel is as far as I got. ;)

291 Sharmuta  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 1:29:53am

re: #289 Gus 802

Obama is the new Uma.

Uma

Oprah

Obama

//Brought to you by Coke Zero.

/

Funny when you remember letterman's terrible "Uma/Oprah" gag at the Oscars years ago.

292 Killian Bundy  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 1:30:00am

re: #288 gmsc

You can pull any kind of wool (or any other fiber) over Oprah's eyes, though. She' convinced that all 0bama has to do to fix the economy is to visualize hard enough and read all the books put out by "The Secret" publishers.

/and you wonder why the markets are poised to explode to the upside, yet frightened by the Obama reality, holding the markets back for as far as the eye can see?

293 Gus  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 1:30:35am

re: #290 FurryOldGuyJeans

Commander, Naval Surface Force, U.S. Atlantic Fleet actually.

You have no idea much I was trying to decipher the gibberish you wrote. Something dealing with Atlantic personnel is as far as I got. ;)

Yeah, I was just kidding. The Navy acronyms are always impressive though

294 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 1:33:00am

re: #293 Gus 802

Yeah, I was just kidding. The Navy acronyms are always impressive though

Then wallow in the Naval acronyms all you want. ;)

295 gmsc  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 1:34:14am

re: #291 Sharmuta

Funny when you remember letterman's terrible "Uma/Oprah" gag at the Oscars years ago.

Stupid Uma tricks?

296 Gus  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 1:34:21am

re: #291 Sharmuta

Funny when you remember letterman's terrible "Uma/Oprah" gag at the Oscars years ago.

That I remember. It's almost like one could say Obama/Letterman. ;)

297 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 1:34:47am

re: #277 gmsc

Who is the last celebrity you would expect to be tired of seeing 0bama on TV?

Strange, he's one of the first I expected to "break" from the mind control of the Chosen One.

298 Fenway_Nation  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 1:35:31am

re: #289 Gus 802

Can't a Venezualan just enjoy a Coke Zero while kicking back and watching Globovision anymore?

299 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 1:37:08am

re: #292 Killian Bundy

/and you wonder why the markets are poised to explode to the upside, yet frightened by the Obama reality, holding the markets back for as far as the eye can see?

The uncertainty of any stable financial future engendered by Congress and Obama and their "pull it out of our asses" approach to governance is just staggeringly scary.

300 Gus  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 1:37:18am

re: #298 Fenway_Nation

Can't a Venezualan just enjoy a Coke Zero while kicking back and watching Globovision anymore?

Oh the irony. Never doubt the ability for Hugo Chavez to provide us with entertainment. :)

301 ArchangelMichael  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 1:38:40am

re: #298 Fenway_Nation

Can't a Venezualan just enjoy a Coke Zero while kicking back and watching Globovision anymore?

Must be buying into the Artificial Sweetners = poison moonbattery. What's next Hugo? Banning the MMR vaccine? I double dog dare you.

302 littleoldlady  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 1:38:54am

re: #299 FurryOldGuyJeans

I figure we're about to hit the perfect storm...high inflation + higher fuel costs + more taxes.

If either cap and trade or a government healthcare plan are passed, we are finished.

303 Fenway_Nation  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 1:39:20am

re: #300 Gus 802

If there's a prohibiton on Zero....does that mean 0bama can't set foor in Caracas?

304 Sharmuta  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 1:39:32am

Holocaust Museum Shooting, Other Recent Attacks Prove Domestic Extremism a Threat

A month before a suspected white supremacist walked into the Holocaust Memorial Museum in downtown Washington and opened fire, the Department of Homeland Security warned that domestic right-wing extremism was the most pressing domestic terrorist threat that the country faced.

Conservatives were outraged that the DHS analysts had singled out antiabortion and antitax radicals for scrutiny. But the report was part of a series that DHS compiles on domestic dangers from all sides of the political spectrum, an area that's taken a back seat to overseas threats.

A series of recent incidents shows the prescience of those reports and illustrates the worrying reality that terrorism often comes from inside the homeland. Worse still, the reports caution that such attacks are likely to happen again. In the past two weeks, the country has seen the bombing of a Starbucks coffee shop in New York City, the arrest of four men for allegedly plotting to blow up synagogues and shoot down planes, the shooting of two soldiers at an Army recruitment center in Arkansas, the assassination of a doctor inside a Kansas church, and the shooting at the Holocaust Museum. Although these are not all cases of right-wing extremism, each is an example of domestic terrorism. "We still face threats from al Qaeda," FBI chief Robert Mueller warned Congress in May during a briefing on threats facing the nation. "But we must also focus on less well-known terrorist groups, as well as homegrown terrorists."

305 Fenway_Nation  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 1:40:21am

re: #302 littleoldlady

Don't forget Card Check!

306 Killian Bundy  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 1:40:29am

TOTUs, leader of the free world.

More like, he doesn't even have the self control to quit smoking, and it shows.

/name one world leader that hasn't totally rolled him already

307 gmsc  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 1:40:43am

re: #303 Fenway_Nation

If there's a prohibiton on Zero....does that mean 0bama can't set foor in Caracas?

*RIMSHOT*

308 Digital Display  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 1:40:58am

Shooter (2007) a wounded sniper sniper (Mark Walberg) plots revenge against that betray him. 2 1/2 stars.
Ok it's 4:30 in the morning and I'm watching movies..
But Mark is a stud....I don't care what he does..That man is a stud actor..
Did you guys know that the show Entourage is based on his life?
I don't want to be Mike.I wanna be Mark! *wink*

309 Sharmuta  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 1:41:47am

re: #308 HoosierHoops

I was going to watch a movie too, but I didn't want to miss fruitcup.

310 Fenway_Nation  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 1:42:05am

re: #304 Sharmuta

In the past two weeks, the country has seen the bombing of a Starbucks coffee shop in New York City, the arrest of four men for allegedly plotting to blow up synagogues and shoot down planes, the shooting of two soldiers at an Army recruitment center in Arkansas LA LA LA LA LA NOTHING TO SEE HERE! MOVE ALONG NOW! the assassination of a doctor inside a Kansas church, and the shooting at the Holocaust Museum. Although these are not all cases of right-wing extremism, each is an example of domestic terrorism.

/MSM

311 littleoldlady  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 1:42:18am

re: #305 Fenway_Nation

Don't forget Card Check!

Fenway! :-)

Chump change!

312 gmsc  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 1:42:53am

re: #302 littleoldlady

I figure we're about to hit the perfect storm...high inflation + higher fuel costs + more taxes.

If either cap and trade or a government healthcare plan are passed, we are finished.

At least we can start messig with liberal's emotions (note I don't say minds).

Hey - 0bama passed that "Buy American" provision – How dare you display your hatred of 0bama and America by driving that Toyota Prius. Buy a GM or a Chrysler and show your love for America! 0bama liked it so much, he took over the company!

313 littleoldlady  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 1:43:17am

NOBODY MOVE!

314 Sharmuta  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 1:43:17am

re: #310 Fenway_Nation

Frankly- they're not giving the islamic bomb plot it's due either.

315 Gus  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 1:43:26am

re: #303 Fenway_Nation

If there's a prohibiton on Zero....does that mean 0bama can't set foor in Caracas?

He could try the empathy angle when he was snorting some coke and smoking some weed while discussing Marxism and globalism during his Columbia days. Of course the records on that haven't been released.

The "O" man is probably Jonsing for a cigaret now and contemplating Iran while having Xuxa and Sabado Gigante flashbacks.

Am I allowed to say this here?

//

316 Killian Bundy  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 1:43:30am

re: #309 Sharmuta

I was going to watch a movie too, but I didn't want to miss fruitcup.

You admittedly have no TV.

/how does that work?

317 Sharmuta  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 1:43:45am

re: #313 littleoldlady

NOBODY MOVE!

Um- if I don't move, I can't type. :p

318 gmsc  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 1:43:49am

re: #313 littleoldlady

NOBODY MOVE!

Slowly I turn . . .

319 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 1:43:51am

re: #302 littleoldlady

I figure we're about to hit the perfect storm...high inflation + higher fuel costs + more taxes.

If either cap and trade or a government healthcare plan are passed, we are finished.

Bloomberg.com reported earlier:

June 12 (Bloomberg) -- Health-care overhaul legislation being drafted by House Democrats will include $600 billion in tax increases and $400 billion in cuts to Medicare and Medicaid, Ways and Means Committee Chairman Charles Rangel said.

So forget any EXPANSION of coverage, this new health-care scam is actually going to be the beginning of a REDUCTION of care and will be the start of rationing.

320 Sharmuta  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 1:44:17am

re: #316 Killian Bundy

Where did I say that?

321 gmsc  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 1:44:20am

re: #316 Killian Bundy

You admittedly have no TV.

/how does that work?

They have movies on "computer" now . . .

322 littleoldlady  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 1:44:25am

re: #319 FurryOldGuyJeans

So forget any EXPANSION of coverage, this new health-care scam is actually going to be the beginning of a REDUCTION of care and will be the start of rationing.

Eeeeeeeeeeyup!

323 littleoldlady  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 1:46:20am

re: #322 littleoldlady

PLUS, (I read in a spinoff link that I won't be able to find now...) the Congressional Budget Office is about to come out with the REAL costs of such a plan, and the Dems and the administration are scrambling to make sure nobody finds out.

/wheeeeeee!
//are we having fun yet?

324 Fenway_Nation  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 1:46:53am

re: #308 HoosierHoops

Fuck that.....our own Chief Lizard did a review of Shooter- it was reworked from the Stephen Hunter book to a America-is-evil-with-U.S. Soldiers-massacring-civilians-in-Africa-to-accomodate eeeeeevil oil-companies storyline by insipid left-wing hacks.

/Squeal like a pig, Ned Beatty.

325 gmsc  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 1:46:58am

re: #318 gmsc

Slowly I turn . . .

326 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 1:47:03am

re: #322 littleoldlady

Eeeeeeeeeeyup!

I learned the drill having the VA as my primary care. The suckers that bought the bullshit will be whining and crying they got lied to, and I won't be shedding a single tear.

327 Killian Bundy  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 1:48:09am

re: #320 Sharmuta

Where did I say that?

I'm planning on being the last American to convert to digital. :D

/you have zero TV

328 Digital Display  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 1:48:16am

re: #313 littleoldlady

NOBODY MOVE!

Mark just shot everybody in the movie..That has got to be fun...The director says it's the end now shot everybody in sight! Weeeee! He never ran out of bullets ...Which is nice! LOL

329 Sharmuta  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 1:49:05am

re: #327 Killian Bundy

That means I somehow don't own one capable of playing videos or DVDs?

330 Gus  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 1:49:30am

re: #323 littleoldlady

PLUS, (I read in a spinoff link that I won't be able to find now...) the Congressional Budget Office is about to come out with the REAL costs of such a plan, and the Dems and the administration are scrambling to make sure nobody finds out.

/wheeeeeee!
//are we having fun yet?

Hey, I can't wait! The Dems are coming to save me!

Howard Dean and that guy that lost in Virginia. Terry MCauliffe.

//Gasping for air.

331 Fenway_Nation  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 1:50:03am

re: #314 Sharmuta

Jeez Sharm....haven't you heard? The bomb plot was instigated by the FBI's informant and these poor misguided yoots went along because they were so blinded by hate and rage from BushCoHalliburtonZionazi occupayshun of Iraq......

/latest MSM spin

332 Digital Display  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 1:50:11am

re: #324 Fenway_Nation

Fuck that.....our own Chief Lizard did a review of Shooter- it was reworked from the Stephen Hunter book to a America-is-evil-with-U.S. Soldiers-massacring-civilians-in-Africa-to-accomod ate eeeeeevil oil-companies storyline by insipid left-wing hacks.

/Squeal like a pig, Ned Beatty.

You can't buy more fun at 4:30am....Well ok you can but it's a family blog..

333 Fenway_Nation  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 1:51:46am

re: #332 HoosierHoops

Just ask LittleOldLady and JewPublican....

334 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 1:51:56am

re: #323 littleoldlady

PLUS, (I read in a spinoff link that I won't be able to find now...) the Congressional Budget Office is about to come out with the REAL costs of such a plan, and the Dems and the administration are scrambling to make sure nobody finds out.

/wheeeeeee!
//are we having fun yet?

If the real cost of this health care scam runs true to form as the costs for this bailout fiasco, I expect the costs to be at least quadruple the amount, taxes and reduction in current services, as reported by Bloomberg.

335 Rustler  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 1:54:47am

re: #316 Killian Bundy

Thought she only had no cable which means VHS/DVD and comp downloads still possible.

336 Killian Bundy  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 1:54:53am

re: #329 Sharmuta

That means I somehow don't own one capable of playing videos or DVDs?

/yeah, well, anyone crowing about not having a TV signal, yet crowing about videos (VCR) and DVDs doesn't impress me as credible

337 Sharmuta  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 1:55:14am

re: #336 Killian Bundy

I'm crushed.

338 littleoldlady  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 1:55:40am

Has my kid been here lately?

/nobody tells me nuttin'!

339 gmsc  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 1:56:47am

re: #338 littleoldlady

Has my kid been here lately?

/nobody tells me nuttin'!

littleyoungkid?

340 littleoldlady  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 1:57:18am

re: #339 gmsc

Jewpublican!

341 Killian Bundy  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 1:57:19am

re: #335 Rustler

Thought she only had no cable

/and if you don't have a digital conversion box you have zero TV now, period

342 Gus  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 1:57:21am

Night all.

343 Rustler  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 1:58:12am

re: #336 Killian Bundy Why with mvies she's not supporting the whack jobs on tv by denying htem at least 1 person to view their advertisments. And there are some good movies out there that are worht wathing. Not many are recent tho.

344 Killian Bundy  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 1:59:08am

re: #337 Sharmuta

I'm crushed.

Good for you.

/Killian Bundy, nothing more, nothing less

345 Rustler  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 1:59:16am

re: #341 Killian Bundy
That doesn't negate the ability to watch a movie tho. Not supporting cable/sattelite providers doesn't mean she has to live in a sound free house.

346 Fenway_Nation  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 1:59:22am

re: #342 Gus 802

'Nite Gus! Sure you can't hang around for a few more minutes...

/I see that fruitcup a comin'- it's comin' round the bend....

347 littleoldlady  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 2:00:04am

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet ---------------->
Help yourselves!

348 gmsc  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 2:00:04am

re: #342 Gus 802

Night all.

'Niters, Gus!

349 Sharmuta  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 2:00:18am

re: #335 Rustler

Thought she only had no cable which means VHS/DVD and comp downloads still possible.

I don't watch TV anymore. I have no need for it. I do still like to watch some movies though, but why anyone cares about my television habits is beyond me. I think more people should ditch the idiot box.

350 gmsc  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 2:00:25am

re: #347 littleoldlady

Good morning, afternoon, evening *everyone*!™

Fruitcup is on the buffet ---------------->
Help yourselves!

Yummy! I guess we can move now!

351 Digital Display  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 2:00:34am

re: #342 Gus 802

Night all.

Good Night! The shooter was a cool movie...What's next? Stand by

352 Rustler  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 2:00:38am

re: #341 Killian Bundy
And shouldn't need the converter box for most more recent tv's anything that was able to recive a cable or sattelite signal directly won't need the box for the digital tv.

353 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 2:00:54am

re: #341 Killian Bundy

/and if you don't have a digital conversion box you have zero TV now, period

And with the crap currently on, news and entertainment, that is a bad thing?

354 Sharmuta  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 2:01:10am

re: #347 littleoldlady

Thank you, littleoldlady.

355 littleoldlady  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 2:01:25am

Fenway! :-)

356 littleoldlady  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 2:02:02am

gmsc! :-)

Well...okay. ;-)

Sharmuta! :-)

357 gmsc  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 2:02:04am

re: #216 Sharmuta

I'm planning on being the last American to convert to digital. :D

I had no idea you lived in Alabama . . .
////////

358 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 2:03:04am

re: #357 gmsc

I had no idea you lived in Alabama . . .
////////

I was thinking the Ozarks. ;)

359 Killian Bundy  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 2:03:08am

re: #345 Rustler

That doesn't negate the ability to watch a movie tho. Not supporting cable/sattelite providers doesn't mean she has to live in a sound free house.

/careful who you worship, I've been here four years longer than you, not that there's anything wrong with that

360 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 2:04:21am

re: #359 Killian Bundy

/careful who you worship, I've been here four years longer than you, not that there's anything wrong with that

KT, is that you? ;)

361 freetoken  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 2:04:27am

re: #347 littleoldlady

Fruitcup is on the buffet ---------------->

Hoorayyyy... just in time for my cottage cheese dinner (still working on the weight).

Oh... it looks like Red is still working in the kitchen?

362 Sharmuta  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 2:04:48am

re: #353 FurryOldGuyJeans

And with the crap currently on, news and entertainment, that is a bad thing?

Why anyone would give a shit about my television is strange. Who fucking cares? Fucking weird, man.

363 Digital Display  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 2:05:06am

re: #349 Sharmuta

I don't watch TV anymore. I have no need for it. I do still like to watch some movies though, but why anyone cares about my television habits is beyond me. I think more people should ditch the idiot box.

It's 5am...I'm watching movies.And I think back on those old days when I was a little kid hanging on the couch with my mom eating popcorn and watching old movies...Those are the best moments in life...

364 littleoldlady  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 2:06:12am

re: #361 freetoken

freetoken! :-)

I'll have some of that, thankyewverymuch!

I've decided to outsource some of my worrying, and your recipe is just the thing to help me do it!

365 Killian Bundy  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 2:06:18am

re: #362 Sharmuta

Why anyone would give a shit about my television is strange. Who fucking cares? Fucking weird, man.

/maybe because you're the one who broached the subject?

366 Sharmuta  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 2:08:16am

re: #365 Killian Bundy

Freetoken brought it up. Go psycho on his television habits.

367 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 2:09:04am

re: #362 Sharmuta

Why anyone would give a shit about my television is strange. Who fucking cares? Fucking weird, man.

You will never see me recommending some current TV crap show. My life is void enough without filling it with more TV.

Now, if I could spend some time watching with a lovely lady that might be a different story. ;)

368 Killian Bundy  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 2:09:06am

re: #366 Sharmuta

Freetoken brought it up. Go psycho on his television habits.

/lick yourself

369 freetoken  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 2:10:25am

re: #364 littleoldlady


I've decided to outsource some of my worrying, and your recipe is just the thing to help me do it!

According to the secret forumula:

100ml gin
60ml sweet vermouth
60ml Campari
20ml Cointreau
40ml fresh lemon juice
2 dashes angostura bitters
500ml good quality lemonade or ginger ale

Take a two-pint pitcher, half fill with ice and add the garnish fruits. These should be lemon, lime, orange, apple, cucumber, strawberries and mint, but anything else goes! Add the alcoholic ingredients and stir; fill up the pitcher with ice and add the lemonade. Serve in chilled glasses and (depending on your generosity) with fruit forks.

370 Digital Display  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 2:12:12am

re: #369 freetoken

Wow...A drink with bitters...never seen that before...

371 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 2:12:26am

re: #369 freetoken

I like this better. ;)

372 littleoldlady  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 2:13:19am

Geez...talk about a boring subject to pick a fight over...

How 'bout them Phillies?

373 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 2:14:35am

re: #372 littleoldlady

Geez...talk about a boring subject to pick a fight over...

How 'bout them Phillies?

What about the weather?

374 littleoldlady  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 2:14:43am

re: #369 freetoken

I see I'm going to have to buy a ml measurer! ;-)

375 Throbert McGee  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 2:14:47am

re: #276 littleoldlady

"For a good time, call _____" is older than an 80's song.

/anyone have any Advil™?

The gay singer/songwriter Mark Weigle did a cover of that song, changing "Jenny" to "Jimmy."

Of course, it puts a different spin on it because "Jenny" wouldn't have written her own phone number on a restroom wall -- rather, she was the victim of someone else's prank -- whereas "Jimmy" himself might have put his number up because he was closeted (paging Larry Craig!), lonely, or just plain horny.

Weigle's "Rainbow Ride," which catalogues some of the worst aspects of contemporary gay male culture (and he has a very listenable voice):

♫♪
You can try to disappear into your crystal
You can lie about the bullet in your pistol
You can read Out magazine for guidance
You can be Abercrombie's advertisement... ♫♪

376 Digital Display  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 2:15:11am

re: #372 littleoldlady

Geez...talk about a boring subject to pick a fight over...

How 'bout them Phillies?

Ever hear my story when i got robbed in Philly? It's freaking funny

377 gmsc  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 2:15:36am

Good night, all!

378 Sharmuta  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 2:15:57am

I've never been to Philly, but if I go, I'm visiting Dr. Franklin's grave.

379 freetoken  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 2:16:03am

re: #371 FurryOldGuyJeans

"Dr. Cindy"?

/yeah, right, she had her D.L. - "Doctor of Love"

380 littleoldlady  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 2:16:07am

re: #376 HoosierHoops

I did, but you can post it again.

/PLEASE!

;-)

381 littleoldlady  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 2:16:31am

Hiya, Throbert! :-)

382 freetoken  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 2:16:37am

re: #377 gmsc

'nite gmsc.

383 Sharmuta  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 2:16:52am

re: #377 gmsc

Good night. I'm headed out too.

384 littleoldlady  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 2:16:58am

'Night, gmsc!

/smart boy! ;-)

385 littleoldlady  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 2:17:14am

'Night, Sharmuta! :-)

386 littleoldlady  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 2:18:33am

re: #378 Sharmuta

BTW, I highly recommend The National Constitution Center.

387 Fenway_Nation  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 2:19:09am

re: #372 littleoldlady

Geez...talk about a boring subject to pick a fight over...

How 'bout them Phillies?


How 'bout them Phillies? indeed....

388 Killian Bundy  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 2:19:23am

65.5 LGF comments per day, 24/7/365 for 851 days and I'm a psycho?

/at least I only have one LGF incarnation

389 Throbert McGee  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 2:20:32am

BTW, good morning to all, and thanks to littleoldlady for the marvelous fruitcup. I crashed in bed early yesterday evening after a long afternoon hiking around DC with a friend, and so I'm awake uncommonly early (rather than overnighting it to fruitcup time).

Have bread dough rising in the oven now... multigrain with fresh dillweed. Should be mighty tasty slathered in melted butter for breakfast.

390 littleoldlady  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 2:20:57am

re: #387 Fenway_Nation

talloldman is going to the game on Sunday.

/VERY excited!

391 littleoldlady  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 2:21:57am

re: #389 Throbert McGee

I LOVE dill bread!

/you're going to share, right? ;-)

392 freetoken  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 2:22:28am

re: #368 Killian Bundy

Killian - I don't have a TV, and for most of the past 20 years haven't had one, or if I did (in Japan, came with the apartment) it was off nearly all the time.

You might find it strange, but I got either bored with most of it, or felt like I was being manipulated by the rest. (Both the advertising schemes as well as the whole gov't dance with HDTV.)

I do watch some video, a few movies, some from online sources (like Hulu.) But they are the programs that I want to watch, that are interesting or enlightening to me, at a time when I choose.

/In Japan it was sometimes useful to watch TV just to absorb the culture and the language. As in other countries, the professional broadcasters have the clearest speech.

393 Digital Display  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 2:27:39am

re: #380 littleoldlady

I did, but you can post it again.

/PLEASE!

;-)

Heheheh
So i'm in a hotel in Philly TDY to close the shipyard..My buddies said they were coming by to party but I told them never mind I just want to hang..enjoy some movies..sorry sharmmm..
So anyway it's late at night....I'm naked under the sheets a sleep when there is a loud banging on the door...oh shit..they are drunk..I'm laying there silent when all of a sudden somebody walks in the door to the foot of my bed....It's this really tall black man...(would have been a good wing man in ball...he had length)
When we saw each other we both freaked...I jumped out of bed with only a sheet and chased him down the Stairs...I think it was the 11th floor but it felt like a 1000 floor... I'm screaming at him I'm going to kick your ass and he is yelling you ain't catching me white boy!
I chased him out to the street in front of the Hotel..out of breathe.gasping for air naked in only a sheet...yelling catch him!
I can't be anymore embarrassed than that..LOL

394 Digital Display  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 2:28:38am

re: #389 Throbert McGee

BTW, good morning to all, and thanks to littleoldlady for the marvelous fruitcup. I crashed in bed early yesterday evening after a long afternoon hiking around DC with a friend, and so I'm awake uncommonly early (rather than overnighting it to fruitcup time).

Have bread dough rising in the oven now... multigrain with fresh dillweed. Should be mighty tasty slathered in melted butter for breakfast.

You f'n rock..Now I'm hungry!

395 Rustler  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 2:30:44am

Laters all be safe.

396 littleoldlady  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 2:33:51am

re: #393 HoosierHoops

GOT PIX?

Flapping in the wind...I mean the sheet, of course!

;-)

397 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 2:34:11am

Admiral Abramovich launches his £300million (US$494million) mega-yachtski: The world's biggest (and it even has its own submarine)
By Mail Foreign Service
Last updated at 10:33 PM on 12th June 2009

It is the biggest private yacht in existence and comes with a missile-detection system, two helipads, a luxury spa, swimming pool and a miniature submarine.

But when you're Russian oligarch Roman Abramovich, only the most ostentatious displays of wealth will do.

His latest baby is the Eclipse, a 557-footer reported to have cost a staggering £300million.

As it glided out of the Blohm & Voss shipyard, in Hamburg, Germany, it was so breathtaking that many stopped to watch, barely able to believe their eyes.

To keep the oligarch safe, the Eclipse has a military-grade missile defence system, armour-plating around Abramovich's master suite and bullet-proof windows.

There is also a private submarine, which doubles as an escape pod.

398 littleoldlady  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 2:35:05am

'Night, Rustler! :-)

399 Digital Display  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 2:36:31am

re: #396 littleoldlady

GOT PIX?

Flapping in the wind...I mean the sheet, of course!

;-)

It was like a bad dream..running through the Lobby with only a sheet on...mad as fuck.screaming..and everybody looks at me like I'm insane...
That's my life....:)

400 Killian Bundy  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 2:37:02am

re: #392 freetoken

I don't have a TV

You're not affected.

/but if you have a TV, it doesn't work anymore without cable, satellite, or converter box, that was my point

401 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 2:37:14am

Obama’s issues crumbling
By Dick Morris
Posted: 06/09/09 04:51 PM [ET]

At last, there is convincing evidence that Obama’s poll numbers may be descending to earth. While his approval remains high — and his personal favorability is even higher — the underlying numbers suggest that a decline may be in the offing. Even as he stands on his pedestal, the numbers under his feet are crumbling.

According to a Rasmussen poll, more voters now trust Republicans more than Democrats to handle the economy, by a margin of 45-39. Scott Rasmussen notes that “this is the first time in over two years of polling that the GOP has held the advantage on this issue.” Last month, he had the Democrats holding a one-point lead, but they lost it in June’s polling.

And the Democratic leads over Republicans on their core issues are also dropping. Particularly interesting is the Democratic decline over healthcare, from an 18-point lead in May to only 10 points now.

A Gallup poll also confirms that the president’s personal ratings are high, but the underlying data less so. While 67 percent of voters give Obama personal favorable ratings and 61 percent approve of his job performance (Rasmussen has his job approval lower, at 55 percent), they give him much lower ratings on specific issues.

Gallup shows Obama getting only 55 percent approval on his handling of the economy (down from 59 percent in February) and finds that only 45 percent approve of his handling of federal spending while 46 percent approve of his treatment of the budget deficit.

As it becomes clearer that the deficit caused by spending has landed us in a new economic crisis, entirely of Obama’s own making, his popularity and job performance are likely to drop as well.

The old recession — that the public says was caused by Bush — shows signs of winding down. But the new recession and/or inflation — triggered by Obama’s massive deficits — is just now coming upon us.

402 Throbert McGee  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 2:43:00am

re: #391 littleoldlady

I LOVE dill bread!

/you're going to share, right? ;-)

Well of course, if you can wait around for another hour or so -- I just punched down the dough and it's doing the second rise before baking.

/salivating in anticipation

403 Rustler  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 2:44:01am

re: #400 Killian Bundy
Not true most newer TV's have a digital tuner already only older model analog tv's will need the converter boxes.

If you have a digital TV set, you will not need any additional equipment (with the exception of an antenna) to receive over-the-air digital broadcast programming. However if you have an analog TV set, a digital converter box must be connected between the antenna and the analog TV to receive and display over-the-air digital programming.

404 littleoldlady  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 2:48:49am

re: #399 HoosierHoops

It was like a bad dream..running through the Lobby with only a sheet on...mad as fuck.screaming..and everybody looks at me like I'm insane...
That's my life....:)

Don't feel too badly. At least once a week I'm out in my backyard early in the morning in my jammies, yelling my head off chasing a flock of whitetail deer.

/someday one of my neighbors will stop laughing long enough to call the police! ;-)

405 littleoldlady  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 2:49:31am

re: #402 Throbert McGee

Wish I could wait... :-(

/verybigsigh

Good day, ALL!™

406 Killian Bundy  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 2:53:07am

re: #403 Rustler

Not true most newer TV's have a digital tuner already only older model analog tv's will need the converter boxes.

Okay busted, I own two large screen Samsungs that are capable of over the air tuning, but I have cable. I don't proudly claim to be . . .

I'm planning on being the last American to convert to digital. :D

/not taking back the lick herself, 65+ comments per day for 871 days is [insert adjective here] bizarre

407 Digital Display  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 3:01:39am

Do you lizards think that when Charles wakes up he picks up a guitar and plays some wicked fucking licks. Then makes breakfast and reads the blog?
Good morning Charles!

408 UncleRancher  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 3:01:51am

It just crossed my mind... That alien civilization at some outer fringe of the universe that has been monitoring our TV transmissions and planning to visit us has just seen our runup to elections and then termination of our society when all the TV transmitters were simultaneously turned off.

/I know it's late, and I got here too late for fruitcup.

409 Killian Bundy  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 3:04:37am

re: #408 UncleRancher

I got here too late for fruitcup.

/you can't be too late for fruit cup, only too early

410 TheMatrix31  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 3:07:27am

re: #401 FurryOldGuyJeans

Obama’s issues crumbling
By Dick Morris
Posted: 06/09/09 04:51 PM [ET]

Would have been nice if they realized this shit on November 3rd.

411 UncleRancher  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 3:08:50am

re: #409 Killian Bundy

/you can't be too late for fruit cup, only too early

Ok, but what about those aliens. Maybe they are on the way to take over now that we're all gone. What about THAT?

412 Rustler  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 3:13:43am

re: #411 UncleRancher It will be years before they see our election footage.

413 Digital Display  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 3:16:55am

Oh for pete sake...
It's 6am I started the sweep of like a 1000 channels I have on cable...I've been meaning to do that for along time...Did you know Fox has a channel just for Soccer? I can now keep up with all the latest news and reports 24/7..
I should have been a cable exec..

414 Killian Bundy  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 3:17:30am

re: #411 UncleRancher

Ok, but what about those aliens. Maybe they are on the way to take over now that we're all gone. What about THAT?

Ask littleoldlady.

/at a certain point, reality rears it's ugly head, bob and weave, don't take no for an answer

415 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 3:17:31am

re: #412 Rustler

It will be years before they see our election footage.

Kodos has already seen it.

416 UncleRancher  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 3:19:08am

re: #412 Rustler

It will be years before they see our election footage.

I know. They have the same problem we have. Time and distance. I'm thinking of the children. What if all the aliens have little square britches and they feel like they have to rescue us now? So they mount a rescue attempt and bankrupt their little countries burning all their resources to get here so they can save us.

417 rightside  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 3:24:08am

Morning Lizards.

418 Killian Bundy  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 3:25:28am

Pump It

/VAW-116

419 UncleRancher  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 3:25:48am

re: #413 HoosierHoops

Oh for pete sake...
It's 6am I started the sweep of like a 1000 channels I have on cable...I've been meaning to do that for along time...Did you know Fox has a channel just for Soccer? I can now keep up with all the latest news and reports 24/7..
I should have been a cable exec..

Same thing for satellite tv. I got one of them dish things. There are only about 5 channels I ever watch. Talk about a vast wasteland. If the aliens ever do figure out how to intercept that stuff they will assume learn that our males are all impotent.

420 Digital Display  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 3:26:04am

re: #417 rightside

Morning Lizards.

Good morning Rightside! I'm officially on Vacation So I've been here all night watching movies and saying hi to all the lizards dropping in....
Weeeee! LOL

421 Rustler  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 3:28:00am

In and out had a tour bus check in last night but is quieter than I thought this morning maybe everyone will stay in their rooms til I get off shift at 0700.

422 rightside  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 3:30:12am

re: #420 HoosierHoops

Cool, I am getting ready for sons graduation from high school.

Congrats to Pittsburgh!

423 Killian Bundy  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 3:34:32am
424 Digital Display  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 3:37:08am

re: #422 rightside

Cool, I am getting ready for sons graduation from high school.

Congrats to Pittsburgh!

.
That is awesome...You must be very proud..

425 TheMatrix31  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 3:38:06am

I'd kill to have the Fox Soccer Channel, but none of the dedicated soccer channels (FSC, Setanta, GolTV) are in HD. I'd get annoyed, so we haven't ordered them.

426 UncleRancher  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 3:39:18am

re: #422 rightside

Cool, I am getting ready for sons graduation from high school.

Congrats to Pittsburgh!

Most excellent and congratulations to the young man.
I've got 3 graduated and 4 to go.

427 rightside  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 3:41:40am

re: #424 HoosierHoops

I am thanks!

re: #426 UncleRancher

Thank you, I have one more to go!

428 Digital Display  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 3:42:30am

re: #425 TheMatrix31

I'd kill to have the Fox Soccer Channel, but none of the dedicated soccer channels (FSC, Setanta, GolTV) are in HD. I'd get annoyed, so we haven't ordered them.

In Amsterdam at 10pm you get the following choices..
CNN international
Soccer
500 hundred channels of sex...
/thank god for subtitles

429 whiterasta  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 3:44:23am

Who is more annoying? That twit with the fake upper-class English accent, Bear Grylls or the bounty hunter dude with the over the top mullet?

430 haakondahl  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 3:45:50am

re: #428 HoosierHoops

In Amsterdam at 10pm you get the following choices..
CNN international
Soccer
500 hundred channels of sex...
/thank god for subtitles

["Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh."]

431 UncleRancher  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 3:47:51am

re: #429 whiterasta

I like the stupid criminal show with comments by celebrity second-class skaters and has-been actors.

432 whiterasta  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 3:49:04am

re: #428 HoosierHoops

re: #431 UncleRancher

I don't think I have seen that one....Thank G-d.

433 Digital Display  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 3:49:23am

re: #430 haakondahl

["Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh. Oh."]

No seriously those folks are into reality sex programming.Everybody calls in and without subtitles you can't roll off the couch laughing...It is a gas...
But wait! I only watched CNN international....that's my story and I'm sticking to it..

434 soxfan4life  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 3:50:39am

re: #427 rightside


Congrats on the graduation and how bout those Penguins?

435 Shiplord Kirel  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 3:53:00am

A tip for business IT types: If you have online ordering or credit application software, please make sure that it will recognize numbered streets as actual streets. I recently had a charge account application rejected because the moronic software would not recognize the name of my numbered street as part of a real address. I tried St, ST, str, and even STREET after the number, with and without a period (.) but it kept insisting that this was not a real street name. I also tried using just the street number without the appended "street" abbreviation but that wouldn't work either. It turned out, believe it or not, that the software would recognize "21th st" ("twenty-firth" street, I suppose) but not "21st st."
Here in Lubbock, an actual majority of residences are on numbered rather than named streets so you would think that someone would have figured this out before now.

436 IslandLibertarian  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 3:55:54am

ok, I put in over 3 hours of study for an upcoming test..........dropped in for a fruitcup, but the winged termites are swarming my monitor, it's 12:54, so I'm going to stack some Z's.
Power to the Correct People!
(They don't need government stimulus.)

g'nite 'tiles.........

437 WhiteRasta  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 3:56:54am

Gone sailing. See y'all later.

438 Shiplord Kirel  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 3:58:02am

Barack Obama was born on August 4st (August fourst) 1961, according to his nirth certificate.

439 UncleRancher  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 3:58:28am

Ok. Got to run too. Got hay down and it looks like rain.

440 rightside  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 4:01:53am

re: #434 soxfan4life

Thank you, and I was really happy they won it!

441 soxfan4life  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 4:06:23am

re: #440 rightside

Thank you, and I was really happy they won it!


Such a young team too, they should be good for a long time if they can manage the salary cap well.

442 rightside  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 4:07:50am

Did you hear the fans boo Bettman during the presentation? Classy!

443 soxfan4life  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 4:15:03am

re: #442 rightside

I'm no fan of Bettman, but hockey seems to be on the upswing so he's doing something right. But booing the commissioner on hockey's biggest night is not good. Did you see the New Years Classic might be at Fenway this coming season? Never thought outdoor hockey would catch on like it did.

444 Rancher  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 4:15:47am

Dinnerjacket wins in a landslide as I predicted. Actually I thought he wouldn't make the fraud that obvious. What happens now?

445 Rustler  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 4:17:43am

re: #444 Rancher
Obama invites him to Washington and throws a big Suarree to celebrate.

446 soxfan4life  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 4:18:06am

re: #444 Rancher

Dinnerjacket wins in a landslide as I predicted. Actually I thought he wouldn't make the fraud that obvious. What happens now?


Same thing as if Dinnerjacket lost, the mullahs will still be in charge and Dinnerjacket will continue to taunt 0bama.

447 soxfan4life  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 4:19:43am

re: #445 Rustler


Isn't he coming for July 4th cookout with 0?

448 Rustler  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 4:22:15am

re: #447 soxfan4life
//I think so isn't that when Obama is gonna start the new Anti American Leagues anuall meet and greet?

449 Steffan  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 4:23:21am

Back in my misspent youth, there were two stations in LA that played all-night movies: Channel 5 (KTLA) and channel 11 (KTTV).

The two movies I remember the best were "Retik the Moon Menace" and "Pop Gear."

The former was cobbled together from a Commando Cody serial called "Radar Men From The Moon." The latter was a Brit semi-documentary on the British Invasion of 1964. I've been looking for either or both on CD, but have yet to luck out.

Incidentally, Clayton Moore (aka the Lone Ranger) was a bad guy working for Retik, and the special effects, such as they were, were beyond lame.

Then again, whattaya want for nothing? A rubber biscuit?

/Hi-Yo Silver.

450 Steffan  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 4:26:56am

re: #435 Shiplord Kirel

A tip for business IT types: If you have online ordering or credit application software, please make sure that it will recognize numbered streets as actual streets. I recently had a charge account application rejected because the moronic software would not recognize the name of my numbered street as part of a real address. I tried St, ST, str, and even STREET after the number, with and without a period (.) but it kept insisting that this was not a real street name. I also tried using just the street number without the appended "street" abbreviation but that wouldn't work either. It turned out, believe it or not, that the software would recognize "21th st" ("twenty-firth" street, I suppose) but not "21st st."
Here in Lubbock, an actual majority of residences are on numbered rather than named streets so you would think that someone would have figured this out before now.

Did you try spelling the street name out?

"Twenty-First St." should work, I would think. If it doesn't, you don't want that card.

There's a reason they don't put legs on computers.

451 Rustler  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 4:27:57am

re: #447 soxfan4life
Actually doesn't look like it was an invitation to dinner jacket but rather an allowing of ambassadors to invite Iranian ambassadors to other 4th cookouts.

[Link: weeklypoliticalreview.blogspot.com...]

452 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 4:29:23am

re: #450 Steffan

So they can't run whilst you smite them?

453 3 wood  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 4:30:40am

Good morning.

I heard the Messiah yesterday taking credit for "hope and change" in Iran because of his apology speech in the mideast a few weeks ago.

So how did that work out, oh Annointed One?

And some of the folks who were anticipating dinnerjacket being voted out by the youth vote were, to say the least, extremely naive.

Now, how is the Messiah going to blame Bush for this, I wonder?

454 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 4:32:00am

Saturday Mornin' Wood!

455 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 4:34:40am

re: #453 3 wood

I just don't get it. Everything I have read about Iran showed that Dinnerjacket was hated there. Was it that reporting was so wrong? Did he cheat? WTF?

I was sure today would bring a new day in Iran.

I was wrong.

456 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 4:35:03am

What kind of country allows voter fraud in this day and time?

457 Rustler  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 4:35:33am

re: #455 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I'm willing to bet a lot of Acorn style trickery, as well as interferance from the mullahs.

458 3 wood  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 4:38:55am

Congrats to the Penguins for winning the Stanley Cup.

I also hope that the league looks at how many opposition players the Redwings injured with vicious hits on the boards, away from the puck, and deals with them appropriately. They did it to the Blackhawks, and to the Penguins that I saw. It was a throwback to the goon hockey play of the 1970's and it was really disgusting.

I'm all for good clean checking in hockey. But this was getting to the point with the Redwings of goon hockey with the intent to injure. If the league does not stop it, I'm afraid somebody is going to retaliate next year and a Redwing, who probably had nothing to do with the goon play this year, will get seriously hurt.

459 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 4:40:30am

re: #457 Rustler

See? I'm not so sure... Let's say two million out of 40 million voted for the opponent. The 2mil take to the streets shouting "fraud!".

Looks like voter fraud to me.

I'm guessing the reporting was wildly wrong and Dinnerjacket may not be loved, but they like his hard line.

I so hope I am wrong.

460 3 wood  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 4:41:51am

re: #455 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

I just don't get it. Everything I have read about Iran showed that Dinnerjacket was hated there. Was it that reporting was so wrong? Did he cheat? WTF?

I was sure today would bring a new day in Iran.

I was wrong.

Veg, first of all the election was fixed. If you had grown up in Chicago you would understand it completely. The existing power brokers own the election process. They will not allow the opposition to win, whatever it takes.

461 Rustler  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 4:41:58am

re: #458 3 wood
Good year for Sports in Pittsburg Steelers and penguins both won championships right?

462 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 4:42:15am

re: #458 3 wood

They almost killed Sidney last night from what I read.

I was kind of rooting for Detroit. That cesspool has so little to brighten the skies.

463 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 4:42:57am

re: #461 Rustler

Here come the Pirates!
/

464 3 wood  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 4:44:57am

re: #456 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

What kind of country allows voter fraud in this day and time?

The US for one. Come to Chicago during any election. It's so open you will not believe it.

My mother was "voting" Democratic in Chicago for years after she died. I tried to get her name taken off the voting roles and they called the Police on me, claiming I was causing a disturbance in the office. I called the newspapers and they refused to report it.

I ended up having to spend a lot of money through an attorney to go to court and get her name taken off.

465 3 wood  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 4:46:22am

re: #461 Rustler

Good year for Sports in Pittsburg Steelers and penguins both won championships right?

Sure, but the Pirates have no hope.

Speaking of bad baseball, it's time to back up the truck for the White Sox. They are really bad.

466 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 4:46:30am

re: #464 3 wood

I considered adding a sarc tag on that one....

467 Kenneth  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 4:49:47am

For some reason the usual media adoration is missing when Obama went to the golf course... maybe it's because he basically sucks at golf.

Best part: at 0:35 seconds when his Blackberry flies off his belt clip.

468 3 wood  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 4:49:52am

Got to run to a music festival for the weekend.

See ya!

469 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 4:50:16am

re: #468 3 wood

Hope the sounds are sweet.

470 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 4:51:48am

re: #467 Kenneth

No complaints here. He's a better golfer than I am.

471 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 4:52:25am

re: #467 Kenneth

Not surprised he golfs "lefty" though.

472 Kenneth  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 4:55:05am

re: #470 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

The joke isn't really on Obama. No law says he has to be a good golfer. The joke is on the fawning media which usually drools over the One's athletic prowess. They wisely avoided broadcasting his crappiness because you can't spin a poor golf stroke.

473 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 4:58:23am

re: #472 Kenneth

Yeah. Funny. Bush wasn't allowed to play golf. Had to stop playing, "We're at war and he goes golfing?".

474 Spare O'Lake  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 5:00:06am

Good Morning LGF.

475 rightside  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 5:01:32am

re: #443 soxfan4life

I watched the one being held in Buffalo (where I grew up), it was awesome. It is the coolest game on earth. The Stanley Cup is the best trophy in sports.

476 rightside  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 5:02:55am

Ok, have a great day all, heading out for graduation.

Have a safe weekend, Lizards.

477 Spare O'Lake  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 5:03:03am

So Ahmadinejad has apparently won the phony non-election in a landslide (over 62.6%).
Gee, is it possible that most Iranians are NOT secret lovers of the West?
Or that most Iranians heartily approve of Iran's push to develop nukes and are in favour of Iranian empire?

478 Throbert McGee  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 5:05:13am

re: #435 Shiplord Kirel

It turned out, believe it or not, that the software would recognize "21th st" ("twenty-firth" street, I suppose)

"Twenty-wunth"

479 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 5:10:10am

re: #467 Kenneth

Now, I'm not complaining about his golfing, but just think... Had he gone golfing with the Chicago "Power-brokers" before they chose him... they'd have laughed all the way home and never thought of him again.

480 Rustler  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 5:10:16am

re: #473 Fat Bastard Vegetarian Anyone know if Obama has had the White House bowling alley converted to a BBall court yet?

481 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 5:11:36am

re: #480 Rustler

Kind of a low ceiling...don'tcha think?

482 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 5:16:31am

Good to be a boy.

483 songbird  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 5:19:34am

Happy Saturday, Lizards!

I'm going to enjoy today with my dear husband by going to the Farmer's Market and swimming later.

After living in the desert, being here is like being at a resort!

484 Rustler  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 5:20:24am

re: #481 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Well that was one on of those campaign comments a bowling alley is boring better to take Foreign heads of state to the BBall court. You know because heads of state are usually such young healthy individuals.

485 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 5:21:10am

re: #484 Rustler

The stupidity is just...well...stupid.

486 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 5:21:38am

re: #483 songbird

Swimming at the Farmer's Market?

487 [deleted]  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 5:21:39am
488 Rustler  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 5:23:32am

re: #481 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Ouch

The full exchange went like this:

Leno: I imagine the bowling alley has been just burned and closed down.
Obama: No, no. I have been practicing all –- (audience laughter)
Leno: Really? Really?
Obama: I bowled a 129. (Audience laughter and applause.)
Leno: No, that’s very good. Yes. That’s very good, Mr. President.
Obama: It’s like — it was like Special Olympics, or something. (Audience laughter.)
Leno: No, that’s very good.
Obama: No, listen, I’m making progress on the bowling, yes.

will try to find where he talked about replacing it with bball court next had missed this one.

489 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 5:25:08am

Well. I'd love to sit around and chat longer; but you guys suck!
/

490 songbird  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 5:26:14am

re: #486 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Swimming at the Farmer's Market?

That would be just a bit difficult. Swimming through the piles of vegetables!

491 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 5:27:05am

re: #490 songbird

That would be just a bit difficult. Swimming through the piles of vegetables!

mmmmmmmmmm

492 Rustler  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 5:27:31am

re: #485 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Here is an article without the exact quote but talking about Obama maybe leaving it. If you look at the Picture of it it's kinda obvious why, since there isnt enough room to turn it into a BBall court.

493 Chekote  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 5:27:41am

I came here to GET AWAY from all the overblown outrage about Letterman. An idiot comedian makes a tasteless, stupid joke and it is being treated as the biggest story among right wing blogs while Obama and the Dems are getting ready to take over our healthcare system. No wonder the conservative movement is in the crapper.

494 songbird  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 5:28:52am

re: #487 Iron Fist

Happy Saturday, songbird! Long time no see. Hope all is well with you.

I was offline for a while since we did not have reliable internets while we were moving. It was a long trek from Las Cruces, MD to Maryland, but I'm glad we are here. Right now I'm looking for work as a music teacher/German teacher in the school system or a community college.

It's good to be back on LGF.

495 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 5:29:21am

re: #492 Rustler

Can you imagine one of those kids giving 0bama an elbow to the mouth? Secret Service opening fire....

496 BlueCanuck  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 5:30:04am

re: #495 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Can you imagine one of those kids giving 0bama an elbow to the mouth? Secret Service opening fire....

Nah, it would just be a full body tackle. Still, would you count that as a foul?

497 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 5:30:10am

re: #494 songbird

Where is Las Cruces, MD?

Not on Google Earth.

498 Chekote  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 5:30:18am
Gee, is it possible that most Iranians are NOT secret lovers of the West?
Or that most Iranians heartily approve of Iran's push to develop nukes and are in favour of Iranian empire?

I am wonder the same thing. Maybe ACORN was involved. :)

499 [deleted]  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 5:31:38am
500 reine.de.tout  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 5:31:48am

re: #497 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Where is Las Cruces, MD?

Not on Google Earth.

I'm betting that was a typo, and that he/she menat Las Cruces NM

501 songbird  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 5:31:59am

re: #497 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Where is Las Cruces, MD?

Not on Google Earth.

Major OOPS! Las Cruces, NM...40 miles north of El Paso!

502 Rustler  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 5:33:09am

re: #497 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
She meant NM MD is her new state :P

503 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 5:33:49am

re: #500 reine.de.tout

Ya think?

Hiya Toots...I'm running out. Well, walking briskly.

See y'all later.

504 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 5:34:20am

re: #502 Rustler

"Humor is a hobby of mine"

Peace!

505 songbird  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 5:34:47am

re: #504 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

"Humor is a hobby of mine"

Peace!

And we love you for it!

506 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 5:36:16am

re: #505 songbird

I'll bet I'm the most popular of the worthless lizards!

507 Rustler  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 5:45:11am

re: #506 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Hey FBV that gold paint stuff is dangerous :P. Oh wait NM Mythbusters busted that one carry on.

508 Rancher  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 5:46:30am

Iranians taking to the streets crying voter fraud.

509 SasquatchOnSteroids  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 5:47:15am

re: #467 Kenneth

For some reason the usual media adoration is missing when Obama went to the golf course... maybe it's because he basically sucks at golf.



Best part: at 0:35 seconds when his Blackberry flies off his belt clip.

I've seen better swings in a condemned playground.
~Bob Hope (I think)

510 rustler  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 5:51:24am

New avatar Fluffy wanted an extra PETA member a day as usage rights to his image :P.

511 Chekote  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 5:59:33am

re: #508 Rancher

Iranians taking to the streets crying voter fraud.

If the reports are correct about Iranians being pro-west, wanting change, etc. we should see some serious civil unrest.

512 Jewels (AKA Julian)  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 6:00:20am

and for our newer lizards

Caribbean Lamb Curry (serves 4-6)

2 pounds boned leg of lamb
4 tablespoons of curry powder
3 garlic cloves, crushed
1 large onion, chopped
4 thyme springs or 3 teaspoon dried thyme
3 bay leaves
1 teaspoon ground allspice
2 tablespoons vegetable oil
4 tablespoons butter or margarine
3.5 cups of stock or water
1 fresh hot chili pepper, chopped
cooked rice, to serve
cilantro springs, to garnish

Step 1: cut the meat into 2-inch cubes, discarding excess fat and gristle

Step 2: place the lamb, curry powder, garlic, onion, thyme, bay leaves, allspice, and oil into a large bowl and mix. Marinate in the fridge for 3 hours or overnight.

Step 3: melt the butter or margarine in a large heavy saucepan, add the seasoned lamb and fry over a moderate heat for about 10 minutes, turning meat frequently.

Step 4: stir in the stock and chili pepper and bring to a boil. Reduce the heat, cover the pan, and simmer for 1.5 hours, or until meat is tender. Serve with rice, garnish with Cilantro.

513 Jewels (AKA Julian)  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 6:01:01am

Jamaican Jerk Marinade

1/2 c. whole Jamaican pimento berries
4 Scotch Bonnet chiles, seeds and stems
removed, chopped
10 scallions, chopped
1/2 c. chopped onion
4 cloves garlic, chopped
4 bay leaves, crushed
1 3-inch piece of ginger, peeled and chopped
1/3 c. fresh thyme
1 t. nutmeg
1 t. ground cinnamon
1 t. salt
1 T. black pepper
1/4 c. vegetable oil
1/4 c. key lime juice

Roast berries in dry skillet until aromatic, about 2 minutes. Remove
and crush into powder.
Put powder and all ingredients into blender. Remove and store in a
jar in refrigerator.


Jamaican Jerk Barbecued Ribs

1 cup Jerk Marinade (1)
1 tablespoon Sugar
2 tablespoons Basalmic Vinegar
4 pounds Pork Spareribs
Commercial BBQ Sauce

Combine marinade, sugar and vinegar. Marinate ribs for 4+ hours. The
longer the hotter. Set drip pan in grill to provide for indirect
heat. Use a low fire. Cook for 1 1/2 hours turning and brushing
frequently with the marinade. Brush ribs with BBQ sauce during the
last 15 minutes of cooking.

514 Rancher  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 6:01:56am

re: #511 Chekote

If the reports are correct about Iranians being pro-west, wanting change, etc. we should see some serious civil unrest.

Riot police are out in force and cell phone text messaging is blocked.

515 [deleted]  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 6:10:33am
516 formercorpsman  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 6:12:46am

re: #508 Rancher

Any links?

517 Jewels (AKA Julian)  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 6:14:45am

Cajun ‘Popcorn’ shrimp

2 lbs raw crayfish tails, peeled, or small shrimp, shell and deveined
2 eggs
1 cup white wine (very dry)
.5 cup fine cornmeal (or all purpose flour, if not available)
.5 cup all purpose flour
1 tablespoon snipped fresh chives
1 garlic clove, crushed
.5 teaspoon fresh thyme leaves
.25 teaspoon salt
.25 teaspoon cayenne pepper
.25 teaspoon ground black pepper
oil, for deep frying

For the mayonnaise
1 egg yolk
2 teaspoons Dijon mustard
1 tablespoon white vinegar
1 cup olive or vegetable oil
.5 cup fresh basil leaves, chopped
salt and ground black pepper

Step 1: rinse the crayfish or shrimp in cold water. Drain well and set aside in a cool place

Step 2: mix together the eggs and wine in a small bowl

Step 3: in a mixing bowl, combine the cornmeal and/or flour, chives, garlic, thyme, salt cayenne, and pepper. Gradually whisk in the egg mixture, blending well. Cover the batter and let stand for one hour at room temperature.

Step 4: For the mayonnaise, combine the egg yolk, mustard, vinegar in a mixing bowl and add salt and pepper to taste. Add the oil ina thin stream, beating vigiously with a wire whisk. When the mixture is thick and smooth, stir in the basil. Cover and chill until ready to serve.

518 [deleted]  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 6:16:46am
519 reine.de.tout  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 6:17:37am

re: #517 Jewels (AKA Julian)

Cajun ‘Popcorn’ shrimp

2 lbs raw crayfish tails, peeled, or small shrimp, shell and deveined
2 eggs
1 cup white wine (very dry)
.5 cup fine cornmeal (or all purpose flour, if not available)
.5 cup all purpose flour
1 tablespoon snipped fresh chives
1 garlic clove, crushed
.5 teaspoon fresh thyme leaves
.25 teaspoon salt
.25 teaspoon cayenne pepper
.25 teaspoon ground black pepper
oil, for deep frying

For the mayonnaise
1 egg yolk
2 teaspoons Dijon mustard
1 tablespoon white vinegar
1 cup olive or vegetable oil
.5 cup fresh basil leaves, chopped
salt and ground black pepper

Step 1: rinse the crayfish or shrimp in cold water. Drain well and set aside in a cool place

Step 2: mix together the eggs and wine in a small bowl

Step 3: in a mixing bowl, combine the cornmeal and/or flour, chives, garlic, thyme, salt cayenne, and pepper. Gradually whisk in the egg mixture, blending well. Cover the batter and let stand for one hour at room temperature.

Step 4: For the mayonnaise, combine the egg yolk, mustard, vinegar in a mixing bowl and add salt and pepper to taste. Add the oil ina thin stream, beating vigiously with a wire whisk. When the mixture is thick and smooth, stir in the basil. Cover and chill until ready to serve.

May I grab this for Volume 2?

520 Killgore Trout  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 6:18:16am

Raw Video of Pirate Assault on the Liberty Sun

The wind and the alarms make the audio a little annoying but it's still a very interesting video.

521 Jewels (AKA Julian)  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 6:18:27am

#517 cont:

Step 5: heat 3 inches of oil in a large skillet or deep fryer to a temp of 350 F. dip the seafood into the batter and fry in small batches for 2-3 minutes until golden brown. Turn as necessary for even coloring. Remove with a slotted spoon and drain on paper towels. Serve hot with the mayo

522 Jewels (AKA Julian)  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 6:18:40am

re: #519 reine.de.tout

yes

523 _RememberTonyC  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 6:19:42am

Regarding iran, this fraudelent election that allows dinnerjacket to stay in power is actually what I was hoping would happen. I thought the mullahs would be smart enough to let moussavi win and pretend that a faux "reformer" had actual power in iran. this would have fooled much of the world, especially the likes of the gullible Obama. But with this rigged election that keeps the current president in power, there is now NO QUESTION AT ALL that iran's mullahs are corrupt liars and even the fucktard leftists have to recognize it.

524 Rancher  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 6:20:51am

re: #516 formercorpsman

Any links?

Here.

525 Sharmuta  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 6:22:08am

I do not believe the election results in Iran.

526 reine.de.tout  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 6:22:39am

re: #522 Jewels (AKA Julian)

yes

thank you!

527 VioletTiger  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 6:23:02am

re: #517 Jewels (AKA Julian)

Yum, but must use shrimp as they are no crawfish in Jersey!

528 Jewels (AKA Julian)  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 6:23:09am

re: #525 Sharmuta

who would?

529 Jewels (AKA Julian)  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 6:24:11am

Yakitori Chicken
6 tsp shoyu (Japanese soy sauce)
6 tsp mirin
4 tbsp sake
2 tbsp ultrafine sugar
4 skinless boneless chicken thighs or 2 chicken breasts (14 oz/400g or thereabouts, cut into 24 chunks)
4 scallions, cut into 18 short lengths

Step 1. Soak 6 wooden skewers in water for at least 20 minutes to prevent burning.
Step 2. put the Shoyu, mirin, sake, and sugar in a small pan and bring to a boil. Reduce the heat and let simmer for 1 minute, then remove from the heat and let cool. Separate out a little of the mixture to dribble over the skewers
Step: Bring the broiler to high. Thread 4 pieces of chicken and 4 pieces of scallions on each skewer, then brush the skewers with the Sauce mix. Cook under the broiler for 4 minutes, then turn over and brush with more mix. Cook additional 4 minutes, or until chicken is tend and cooked through. Serve the skewers after drizzling the remains of the reserved sauce

530 _RememberTonyC  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 6:24:23am

re: #525 Sharmuta

I do not believe the election results in Iran.

the percentages alone are unbelievable.

531 formercorpsman  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 6:24:30am

re: #524 Rancher

Interesting.

532 VioletTiger  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 6:24:56am

re: #525 Sharmuta

I do not believe the election results in Iran.

I'm not sure it was a real election. I'm also not sure much would change if the new guy got in, although not having to listen to Marmalade Dinnerjacket would be a plus.

533 Jewels (AKA Julian)  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 6:25:05am

Beef with Cactus Pieces

Serves 6
2 pounds braising beef, cut into 2 inch cubes
2 tablespoons corn oil
1 onion, finely chopped
2 garlic cloves, chopped
1-2 jalapeno peppers, seeded and chopped
1 can (4 oz) nopalitos (cactus pieces) rinsed and chopped
2 cans (10 oz each) tomatillos (Mexican green tomatoes)
.5 cup chopped fresh cilantro
beef stock (optional)
salt and freshly ground black pepper
chopped fresh cilantro, to garnish

Step 1: Pat the beef cubes dry with paper towels. Heat the oil in a frying pan and sauté the beef cubes a few at a time, until browned all over. Using a slotted spoon, transfer the beef to a flameproof pan

Step 2: add the onion and garlic to the oil remaining in the frying pan and sauté until the onion is tender. Add oil as needed. Transfer to the pan, along with the jalapenos.

Step 3: add the nopalitos and tomatillos, with the can juices, to the pan. Still in the cilantro until well mixed. Add beef stock as needed, season with salt and pepper.

Step 4: bring to a slow simmer, cover and cook at a low heat for about 2.5 hrs, or until beef is very tender. Serve sprinkled with chopped cilantro.

534 Jewels (AKA Julian)  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 6:27:16am

Tom Yam Gong (Spicy Lemon Grass Soup with Shrimp)

Serves 4-6
1 lb jumbo shrimp
4 cups chicken stock or water
3 lemon grass stalks
10 kaffir lime leaves, torn in half
8 oz can straw mushrooms, drained
3 tablespoons fish sauce
.25 cup lime juice
2 tablespoons chopped scallion
1 tablespoon cilantro leaves
4 red chilies, seeded and chopped
2 scallions, finely chopped

Step 1: shell and devein the shrimp and set aside, Rinse the shrimp shells and place ina large saucepan with the stock or water and bring to a boil.

Step 2: bruise the lemongrass stalks with the blunt edge of a knife and add them to the stock, together with half the lime leaves. Simmer gently for 5-6 minutes, until the stalks change colour and the stock is fragrant.

Step 3: Strain the stock and return to the saucepan and reheat. Add the mushrooms and shrimp, then cook until the shrimp turn pink

Step 4: Stir in the fish sauce, scallions, lime juice, cilantro, red chilies and the rest of the lime leaves. Taste and adjust the seasoning. It should be sour, salty, spicy and hot.

535 Sharmuta  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 6:28:55am

re: #530 _RememberTonyC

the percentages alone are unbelievable.

Agreed.

re: #532 VioletTiger

I'm not sure it was a real election. I'm also not sure much would change if the new guy got in, although not having to listen to Marmalade Dinnerjacket would be a plus.

I don't think it was a real election- it was a stage show like what saddam used to do, but the result was fixed, and the Iranian people will feel betrayed. They already do since they're taking to the streets.

536 VioletTiger  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 6:30:57am

re: #533 Jewels (AKA Julian)


Cactus? Seriously? I have never seen a can of that. Where do you buy it?

537 Jewels (AKA Julian)  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 6:32:44am

re: #536 VioletTiger

[Link: www.gourmetsleuth.com...]

538 SixDegrees  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 6:33:26am

re: #536 VioletTiger

Cactus? Seriously? I have never seen a can of that. Where do you buy it?

Try your local yuppie food store; Whole Foods, for example. Not sure if they carry it, but it's available.

And there's always the Internet. Amazon has lots of weird foods that are hard to find elsewhere.

539 _RememberTonyC  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 6:33:38am

re: #535 Sharmuta

I don't think it was a real election- it was a stage show like what saddam used to do, but the result was fixed, and the Iranian people will feel betrayed. They already do since they're taking to the streets.


now is exactly the time our special forces need to funnel whatever assistance they can to the protesters in iran. i have always felt that one of the benefits of our presence "next door" would be to help any homegrown iranian opposition at a time of possible revolution. I just hope that our dear leader feels "hope and change" in iran is worth encouraging in real ways. I know Dubya would be on board with this!

540 Jewels (AKA Julian)  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 6:34:26am

re: #538 SixDegrees

try yer mexican food section in A Hy-Vee or any of yer larger groceries

541 Sharmuta  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 6:34:31am

re: #539 _RememberTonyC

Pretty sure Iranian Hope and Change will go under the bus with 0bama.

542 VioletTiger  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 6:34:53am

re: #535 Sharmuta

I knew some Iranians a long time ago when I was in college. It was at the time the Shah was kicked out. They were nice women (they taught me how to henna my hair!) and I often wonder what ever happened to them. I don't know if they went back to Iran, though I hope they didn't. If they managed to stay here, they are much better off.

543 right_wing2  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 6:34:56am

re: #528 Jewels (AKA Julian)

Obama & the left?

544 Jewels (AKA Julian)  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 6:35:50am

Mole Poblano De Guajolote

Serves 6-8

6-8 lbs turkey, cut into serving sized pieces
1 onion, chopped
1 garlic clove, chopped
salt
6 tablespoons lard or corn oil
fresh cilantro and 2 tablespoons toasted sesame seeds to garnish

Sauce
6 dried ancho chilies
4 dried pastille chilies
4 dried mulatto chilies
1 drained canned chipotle chili, seeded and chopped (optional)
2 onions, chopped
2 garlic cloves, chopped
1 lb tomatoes, peeled and chopped
1 stale tortilla, shredded
.33 cup raisins
1 cup almonds, ground
3 tablespoons sesame seeds, ground
.5 tsp coriander seeds, ground
1 teaspoon ground cinnamon
.5 teaspoon anise
.25 ground black peppercorns
4 tablespoons lard or corn oil
1.5 oz unsweetened chocolate, broken into cooking squares
1 teaspoon sugar
salt and fresh ground pepper

cooking tip: roasting the dried chilies lightly, taking care not to burn them, brings out the flavour and is worth the extra effort

Step 1: place the turkey peices into a saucepan or flameproof casserole large enough to hold them in one layer comfortably. Add the onion and garlic, and add enough cold water to cover. Season with salt, cover and cook for about an hour or until turkey is tender.

Step 2: meanwhile, put the ancho, pastille and mulatto chilies ina dry frying pan over a low heat and roast them for a few minutes, shaking the pan frequently. Remove the stems and shake out the seeds. Tear the pods into small bits and put these in a bowl. Ad sufficient water to cover and soak, turning from time to time, for 30 minutes or until soft.

Step 3: lift out the turkey pieces and pat dry with paper towels. Reserve the stock in a measuring jug. Heat the lard in a large heavy frying pan and sauté the turkey until lightly brown all over. Transfer to a plate and set aside. Reserve any oil left in the frying pan.

Step 4: transfer the chilies, along with the water in which they have been soaked, intoa food processor, at the chipotle chilie with the onions, garlic, tomatoes, tortilla, raisins, ground almonds and spices. Process until puree. If necessary do this in batches.

Step 5: Add the lard to the fat remaining in the frying pan used for sautéing the turkey. Heat the mix, then add the chili and spice paste. Cook, stirring, for about 5 minutes.

Step 6: transfer the mixture to the pan or casserole in which the turkey was originally cooked. Stir in two cups of the turkey stock (make up the difference with water of necessary). Add the chocolate and season with salt and pepper. Cook over a low heat until the chocolate is melted. Stir in the sugar. Ad the turkey and more stock if needed. Cover the pan and simmer gently for 30 minutes. Serve garnished with fresh cilantro and sprinkled with the sesame seeds.

545 _RememberTonyC  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 6:36:15am

re: #541 Sharmuta

Pretty sure Iranian Hope and Change will go under the bus with 0bama.

i fear you are right because mr "smartest man ever to be President" has no common sense or moral compass.

546 realwest  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 6:37:33am

Good morning y'all - from a warm (73 degrees going up to 91 degrees, with the usual T-Storms and all predicted for later today) but currenetly sunny and bright Charlotte!
How is everyone this morning?

547 VioletTiger  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 6:38:05am
548 Rancher  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 6:38:15am

Mousavi brags about blowing up the Khobar Towers and killing thousands of Iraqi prisoners during the Iraq Iran war. However he holds out hope for better relations with the west and less abuse from the religious police. He would certainly continue the nuke program and I think most Iranians support that. Most reform efforts would fail because the Mullahs control the courts but it would have been a sop for leaders like Obama. I think the Ayatollah wanted Mousavi to win but Ahmadinejad's control of the Interior Ministry gave him the means to steal this election.

549 _RememberTonyC  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 6:38:15am

re: #546 realwest

Good morning y'all - from a warm (73 degrees going up to 91 degrees, with the usual T-Storms and all predicted for later today) but currenetly sunny and bright Charlotte!
How is everyone this morning?


How's it going young fella?

550 jcm  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 6:38:16am

re: #525 Sharmuta

I do not believe the election results in Iran.

re: #528 Jewels (AKA Julian)

who would?

Rabbit Bait does.......

Morning Honcos....

The Mad Mullahs sent a message to Obama, "no unclenched fist you padaer-e-sag!"

551 Chekote  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 6:38:20am
Cactus? Seriously? I have never seen a can of that. Where do you buy it?

If there are Hispanic grocery stores in your area, try there. A lot cheaper than Whole Foods or other yuppie stores.

552 realwest  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 6:38:29am

And here's a choice cartoon from Day by Day for y'all :
[Link: www.daybydaycartoon.com...]

553 right_wing2  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 6:39:23am

re: #517 Jewels (AKA Julian)

Cajun ‘Popcorn’ shrimp

2 lbs raw crayfish tails, peeled, or small shrimp, shell and deveined

All I can think of when I see '...shrimp, shelled & deveined' is Lowell from 'Wings' asking Faye 'Who's Sheldon Deveined?'

554 VioletTiger  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 6:39:30am

re: #546 realwest

Good morning y'all - from a warm (73 degrees going up to 91 degrees, with the usual T-Storms and all predicted for later today) but currenetly sunny and bright Charlotte!
How is everyone this morning?

Morning real, things are just fine here in Jersey. Finishing my coffee so I can get out to the grocery store before the shore traffic gets bad.
How are you feeling?

555 Jewels (AKA Julian)  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 6:40:11am

Mushrooms with Chipotle Chilies

Serves 6
4 cups button mushrooms
4 tablespoons olive oil
1 onion, finely chopped
2 garlic cloves, chopped
2 drained canned chipotle chilies, rinsed and sliced
salt
chopped fresh cilantro, to garnish

Step 1: wipe the mushrooms gentle with kitchen paper. Heat the olive oil in a heavy frying pan and add the mushrooms, onion, garlic, and sliced chipotles. Stir to coat the vegetables in oil

Step 2: Fry the mixture over a medium heat for 6-8 minutes until onions and mushrooms are tender, Season to taste with salt and serve on small individual plates, sprinkled with fresh cilantro

556 realwest  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 6:40:11am

re: #549 _RememberTonyC
Not bad, ole Timer! I honestly don't know how it's going so far; it's gonna take another cup of coffee for me to tell!

557 SasquatchOnSteroids  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 6:41:11am

Fox steals more than 100 shoes

It seems a vixen stole them for her cubs to play with

So, she's the sole suspect ?

558 Chekote  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 6:41:12am

Let's say that a democratic revolution takes place in Iran as a result of this phoney election, will the people who have been claiming that some ethinic groups "can't handle democracy" (Pat Buchanan) shut up?

559 Sharmuta  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 6:41:42am

re: #548 Rancher

The mullahs are going to continue the nuke program- the president of Iran wouldn't be able to stop it, so on that front we haven't lost anything.

560 jcm  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 6:41:53am

re: #556 realwest

Not bad, ole Timer! I honestly don't know how it's going so far; it's gonna take another cup of coffee for me to tell!

Mornin' Real how do you like your coffee? Just brewed a pot of Guatemalan.

561 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 6:42:29am

Riot police clash with Ahmadinejad opponents after vote

Angry supporters of Iran's defeated presidential candidate Mir Hossein Mousavi pelted baton-wielding police and set rubbish bins on fire on Saturday in protest at the vote results.

A furious mob shouting "Down with the dictator!" threw stones at the police who hit back with sticks to try to disperse demonstrators gathered around central Tehran's Vanak Square, an AFP correspondent said.

Protestors, including women, were also hit with sticks in Tehran's Valiasr Street as riot police on motorbikes moved in to break up a gathering outside Mousavi's office, the correspondent said.

"They have ruined the country and they want to ruin it more over the next four years,"

While I don't believe Obama would dare congratulate Ahmadi 'The Still Living Terrorist' Nejad, the fact-of-the-matter and more frightening aspect, I honestly don't know that Obama won't legitimize Iran's electoral farce by congratulating Ahmad on his success.

We'll see. Or...lets hope we don't.

562 jcm  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 6:42:47am

re: #557 SasquatchOnSteroids

Fox steals more than 100 shoes

So, she's the sole suspect ?

Hold your tongue.
It's to early to pun.

563 _RememberTonyC  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 6:43:12am

re: #556 realwest

Not bad, ole Timer! I honestly don't know how it's going so far; it's gonna take another cup of coffee for me to tell!

caffene always helps at this time of the day. my wife is getting her hair done so i get to goof off for awhile before she drags me kicking and screaming to the nursery to buy stuff she wants me to plant. hope you have a wonderful day today.

564 realwest  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 6:43:24am

re: #554 VioletTiger
Good morning VioletTiger - I'm doing well enough I reckon - how are you doing today?

And what the heck is this Saturday or something - there's only 71 folks logged in right now!

565 Lincolntf  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 6:43:33am

Morning all.
So I take it that Mahmoud is still da man in Iran? Oh joy.

566 Jewels (AKA Julian)  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 6:43:55am

re: #561 aboo-Hoo-Hoo

Don't worry...he will use the same intellectual rigor at determining legitimacy that Jimmy Carter Does

567 SasquatchOnSteroids  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 6:44:22am

re: #562 jcm

Hold your tongue.
It's to early to pun.

You've never eaten Honey Puns for breakfast ?
OK, enough....

568 FrogMarch  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 6:44:28am

Hi all.
Obamacare: Say Goodbye to Private Insurance.

569 jcm  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 6:44:30am

re: #561 aboo-Hoo-Hoo

Riot police clash with Ahmadinejad opponents after vote

While I don't believe Obama would dare congratulate Ahmadi 'The Still Living Terrorist' Nejad, the fact-of-the-matter and more frightening aspect, I honestly don't know that Obama won't legitimize Iran's electoral farce by congratulating Ahmad on his success.

We'll see. Or...lets hope we don't.

A timely statement from the White House:

"We fully support the Iranian people in seeking fair elections and their right to live in a system with the consent of the governed."

Not gonna' hold my breath.

570 realwest  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 6:44:31am

re: #557 SasquatchOnSteroids Oh noes, PLEASE not a pun thread this early, PLEASE!

571 jcm  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 6:45:19am

re: #565 Lincolntf

Morning all.
So I take it that Mahmoud is still da man in Iran? Oh joy.

The Iranians got the short end of the stick... again!

572 realwest  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 6:46:11am

re: #560 jcm
Good morning jcm - thanks but I already got myself a cup of fresh brewed Kona - light and sweet!
How are you doing today my friend?!

573 _RememberTonyC  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 6:46:51am

we need to do whatever we can to help the opposition in iran to fight off the mullahs. we MUST have assets in iraq that can be funneled to the forces of good in iran.

574 SasquatchOnSteroids  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 6:47:35am

re: #570 realwest

Your request is approved. Because it's you.
Have a good day.

575 realwest  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 6:48:19am

re: #566 Jewels (AKA Julian)

Don't worry...he will use the same intellectual rigor at determining legitimacy that Jimmy Carter Does

Gee, Jewels - do you think Obama can riase his game high enough to get over that bar that Carter has set?!?

576 jcm  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 6:49:10am

re: #572 realwest

Good morning jcm - thanks but I already got myself a cup of fresh brewed Kona - light and sweet!
How are you doing today my friend?!

Cool morning, overcast. What I'm about to say is a state secret it will damage the carefully cultivated image of Seattle as being wet, gray and soggy. We are on our 25 day of sunny weather.

577 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 6:49:17am

re: #566 Jewels (AKA Julian)

LOL ...swell, that really made my day.

578 realwest  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 6:49:58am

re: #574 SasquatchOnSteroids Why thank you Big Foot - that's truly appreciated!

579 Jewels (AKA Julian)  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 6:50:25am

re: #575 realwest

at the rate he's going? he'll surpass carter insude the year

580 Sharmuta  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 6:50:45am

re: #573 _RememberTonyC

we need to do whatever we can to help the opposition in iran to fight off the mullahs. we MUST have assets in iraq that can be funneled to the forces of good in iran.

Our president is not the sort of person to promote armed conflict- he will not help the Iranian people. And it's unlikely Iraqis would care to help Iranians. I can' imagine anyone would be interested in helping the Iranians arm themselves for revolution- except maybe Israel.

581 sattv4u2  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 6:50:52am

re: #576 jcm

Cool morning, overcast. What I'm about to say is a state secret it will damage the carefully cultivated image of Seattle as being wet, gray and soggy. We are on our 25 day of sunny weather.

wow ,, you're just 5 days away from your yearly allottment!

582 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 6:51:48am

re: #569 jcm

ugh.

583 Rancher  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 6:52:08am
Iranian Interior Minister Sadeq Mahsouli has declared that the 10th presidential elections were conducted in a manner that ruled out the possibility of voter fraud.

So there!

584 realwest  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 6:52:46am

re: #579 Jewels (AKA Julian) Yeah, I know.
We are SO screwed.

585 jcm  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 6:52:47am

re: #581 sattv4u2

wow ,, you're just 5 days away from your yearly allottment!

We're close to drying up and blowing away!

586 Jewels (AKA Julian)  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 6:52:48am

Chinese Barbecued Pork

Serves 4 to 6

1.5 lbs pork tenderloin (2-3 tenderloins)
1 medium rib celery, finely chopped
1 medium carrot, finely chopped
1 medium onion, finely chopped
1 tablespoon minced fresh ginger
5 strips fresh tangerine or orange zest (each 2 x .3 inches; removed with a vegetable peeler)
.67 cup rice wine or dry sherry
.33 cup soy sauce
.33 cup pure maple syrup
2 tablespoons Asian (dark) sesame oil

1.trim the tenderloins of excess fat or sinew. Mix the celery, carror, onion, ginger, zest, sherry, soy sauce, maple syrup, and 1 tablespoon of sesame oil in a baking dish and mix. Ad the tenderloins, coating them. Cover and let marinate in the refrigerator 24-48 hrs, turning occasionally.
2.preheat over or grill to medium high.
3.Remove tenderloins from the marinade and dry with paper towels. Strain marinade into a small saucepan and bring to a boil over a medium-high heat. Boil until thick and syrupy (5-8 minutes).
4.Brush tenderloins with remaining 1 tablespoon of soy sauce. Arrange tenderloins on hot grate and grill, turning with tongs until pork is brown and cooked through (16 minutes or so). Brush with heated marinade after about 10 minutes.
5.transfer tenderloins to cutting board and let coil for 5 minutes. Cut as needed.

587 Jewels (AKA Julian)  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 6:53:07am

Chicken Tikka

Serves 6

3.5 cups chicken, skinned, boned, and cubed
1 teaspoon ginger pulp
1 teaspoon garlic pulp
1 teaspoon chili powder
.25 teaspoon tumeric
1 teaspoon salt
.67 cup plain yogurt
4 tablespoons lemon juice
1 tablespoon chopped fresh cilantro
1 tablespoon vegetable oil
1 small onion, cut into rings, lime wedges, and fresh cilantro to garnish


Step 1: In a medium mixing bowl combine the chicken pieces, ginger and garlic pulp, chili powder, tumeric, salt, plain yogurt, lemon juice, and fresh cilantro and let marinate for at least 2 hours.

Step 2: Place the Marinated Chicken on a broiler tray or in a flameproof dish lined with foil, and baste with the vegetable oil.

Step 3: Preheat the broiler to medium. Broil the chicken for about 15-20 minutes until cooked, turning and basting 2-3 times. Serve garnished with onion, lime, salad, and cilantro.

588 sattv4u2  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 6:53:31am

re: #580 Sharmuta

Our president is not the sort of person to promote armed conflict

I was surprised he didn't name Rodney "can't we all just get along" King as Sec State

589 Lincolntf  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 6:53:48am

re: #583 Rancher

Good to know.
For a minute there I was worried that an autocratic theocracy might be a tough place to pull off a fair election. My fears were obviously unfounded.

590 _RememberTonyC  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 6:53:54am

re: #580 Sharmuta

Our president is not the sort of person to promote armed conflict- he will not help the Iranian people. And it's unlikely Iraqis would care to help Iranians. I can' imagine anyone would be interested in helping the Iranians arm themselves for revolution- except maybe Israel.

but if there is unrest in iran, how does our country help the forces of good? because if there is an overthrow of the mullahs, we want to be associated with that outcome. how can (should) we help?

591 realwest  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 6:54:38am

re: #576 jcm 25 straight days? Ya mean to tell me that the Moonbatticus Seattleus may blossom from a mushroom to a weed?!

592 Jewels (AKA Julian)  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 6:54:39am

Masala Mashed Potatoes

Serves 4
3 Potatoes
1 Tablespoon Fresh Mint and Cilantro, Mixed
1 teaspoon mango powder
1 teaspoon salt
1 teaspoon crushed black peppercorns
1 fresh red chili, chopped
1 fresh green chili, chopped
4 tablespoons margarine

Step 1: boil the potatoes until soft enough to be mashed, mash them down using a masher

Step 2: Blend together the chopped herbs, mango powder, salt, pepper, chilies, and margarine to form a paste

Step 3: Stir the mixture into the mashed potatoes and mix together with a fork. Serve warm as an accompaniment

593 Jewels (AKA Julian)  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 6:55:03am

Balti Potatoes:

Serves 4

3 table spoons corn oil
½ teaspoon white cumin seeds
3 curry leaves
1 teaspoon dried crushed read chilies
½ teaspoon mixed onion, mustard and fenugreek seeds
½ teaspoon fennel seeds
3 garlic cloves
½ teaspoon shredded ginger
2 onions, sliced
6 new potatoes, sliced thinly
1 tablespoon chopped fresh cilantro
1 fresh red chili, seeded and sliced
1 fresh green chili, seeded and sliced

Step 1: heat the oil in a deep round-bottomed frying pan or Karaki. Low the heat slightly and add the cumin seeds, curry leaves, dried red chilies, mixed onion, mustard & fenugreek seeds, fennel seeds, garlic cloves and ginger. Fry for 1 minute, then add the onions, and fry for 5 more minutes, or until onions are a golden brown

Step 2: Add the potatoes, cilantro, and fresh red and green chilies and mix well. Cover the pan tightly with a lid or foil, making sure that foil does not touch the food. Cook over low heat for 7 minutes, or until the potatoes are tender.

Step 3: remove the pan from the heat, take off the foil and serve hot.

594 jcm  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 6:56:37am

re: #591 realwest

25 straight days? Ya mean to tell me that the Moonbatticus Seattleus may blossom from a mushroom to a weed?!

Should be well cured by the Hemp Festival in August!

;-)

595 _RememberTonyC  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 6:58:01am

i think i'm gonna take my walk early today ... BBL ... have a good one, y'all.

596 haakondahl  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 6:58:39am

Recall that the current regime in Iran *is* Hope and Change--the "student's revolution" of 1979. And so what if they were cruelly manipulated by bearded men with anything but progressive intentions? It was garden variety anti-American sentiment combined with a passive US administration whihc saw no need to "interfere". And once you get the students in on anything, the left won't condemn it, no matter how many people need to die.

So the American left finds itself in a pickle--they know that behind the religious cabal, behind the hawkish president, behind the nuclear arms program and the genocidal intent, there is an object lesson in the perils of what so many on the left want now--garden variety anti-American (or anti-globalization, or anti-Bush) sentiment among disaffected youth around the world to go unopposed, indeed supported by a passive or approving US administration.

597 realwest  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 6:58:54am

re: #586 Jewels (AKA Julian)
and
re: #587 Jewels (AKA Julian)
Um, how is it that you're coming up with recipes this early in the morning for stuff like that, not, say, fresh strawberry Omlettes or something?

598 right_wing2  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 6:58:55am

re: #584 realwest

Exactly what I wanted to put on my personalized tag: WASS

State wouldn't let me use that though (potentially vulgar because of the ASS), so I went with WASVS. We Are So VERY Screwed

599 sattv4u2  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 6:59:13am

RE: IRAN

Look, I've been being told for teh past 3 decades or so that the "youth in Iran really really likes the west. That the academics really really like our culture, hate the mullahs and are working for their overthrow by fostering unrest with the young"

3 decades,,,, 3! And NOTHING has changed there. Mush like China any "rebellion" will be quickly and quietly squashed by the military who are behlden to the mullahs. And like China the only way changes will be made is if the mullahs decided to open up the country for international and/ or American companies to set up shops there for cheap labor, and seeing China, India et al already have that market cornered, IT AIN'T HAPPNIN!

600 FrogMarch  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 6:59:19am

Jewels is making dinner. Come hungry.

601 jcm  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 6:59:46am

Meanwhile Lil' Kim tightens his clench......

North Korea declares all-out push for nuclear weapons
Regime retaliates against fresh UN sanctions by announcing it will turn all its plutonium into bomb material

North Korea has declared it will weaponise all its plutonium stocks and threatened military action against the United States and its allies after the UN security council imposed new sanctions to punish Pyongyang for last month's underground nuclear test.

A spokesman for the country's foreign ministry today acknowledged for the first time that North Korea is developing a uranium enrichment programme and said it would be "impossible" to abandon its nuclear ambitions.

In a defiant statement, the spokesman said that "the whole amount of the newly extracted plutonium [in the country] will be weaponised" and that "more than one-third of the spent fuel rods has been reprocessed to date".

How's that open dialogue workin' out for ya' Mr. President?

602 realwest  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 7:00:27am

re: #595 _RememberTonyC
Take care my friend - and hey, how's about walking an extra mile or so for me - I could use the exercise!

603 right_wing2  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 7:00:30am

re: #579 Jewels (AKA Julian)

at the rate he's going? he'll surpass carter insude the year month

Fixed

604 Rancher  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 7:00:45am

re: #590 _RememberTonyC

... if there is an overthrow of the mullahs, we want to be associated with that outcome.


Maybe not. In the Middle East pride trumps all else, many were happy that we got rid of Saddam but were nevertheless outraged that we had to do it for them.

605 Jewels (AKA Julian)  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 7:01:02am

re: #597 realwest

1) never been good at cooking breakfasts

and

2) going throuhg my recipie file

606 right_wing2  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 7:01:58am

re: #593 Jewels (AKA Julian)

I hope all these recipes will be in the cookbook

607 realwest  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 7:03:56am

re: #598 right_wing2
Good morning and I must say that was an excellent substitute!
AND I have to congratulate you on your Avatar - especially when clicked upon to get the bigger photo-art. Did y'all create that yourself?

It is TRULY SUPERB.

608 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 7:04:27am

re: #575 realwest

Hey real,

How you doin? Meant to get back to you the other day on something and got side-tracked...can't remember what, now. lol

Anywho, from my perspective on the way things are going and seem to be headed; it's sure looking like the Carter era will be a bright shiny period of prosperity & peace compared to what we've got coming with(and as a result of) Obama.

Spooky, very spooky, man.

609 Lincolntf  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 7:05:00am

re: #599 sattv4u2

Yup. If I had a nickel for every time someone told me that "student uprisings" and "moderate clerics" were inevitably going to cause a shift in the Iranian body politic, I'd be buried in nickels.
If the mullahs are ever going to be removed from power (highly doubtful in our lifetimes) it's going to take a real civil war. The situation is not going to be remedied in public squares or Universities, it'll take fighting in the mountains, deserts and cities of the entire country. There's no easy way out.

610 realwest  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 7:05:18am

re: #605 Jewels (AKA Julian) AH! Well don't let me stop you - thank God for copy and paste!

611 jcm  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 7:05:22am

re: #599 sattv4u2

RE: IRAN

Look, I've been being told for teh past 3 decades or so that the "youth in Iran really really likes the west. That the academics really really like our culture, hate the mullahs and are working for their overthrow by fostering unrest with the young"

3 decades,,,, 3! And NOTHING has changed there. Mush like China any "rebellion" will be quickly and quietly squashed by the military who are behlden to the mullahs. And like China the only way changes will be made is if the mullahs decided to open up the country for international and/ or American companies to set up shops there for cheap labor, and seeing China, India et al already have that market cornered, IT AIN'T HAPPNIN!

Nothing has changed correct nothing will change.....

1) The "fearful, fatalistic, apathy" of the Inshallah culture of Islam is deeply rooted. It presents a large block to taking action. To overcome that they need the following.

2) The youths need to see a way of achieving success, not ending up against a wall or at the end of the rope. Such success can only come with strong support for internal regime change from the west.

3) The west should be clear and unequivocal in it's support for regime change both publicly and covertly. The Reagan model used in Poland in the '80s is a perfect example.

612 right_wing2  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 7:05:34am

re: #607 realwest

Thanks. No, I found that somewhere not too long after 9/11, if I remember right.

613 sattv4u2  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 7:06:33am

ALSO RE: IRAN

20 Million votes

0 Purple Fingers

(for any "progerssives" lurking, guess President Bush was right after all)

614 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 7:06:35am

re: #586 Jewels (AKA Julian)

Hey Jewels, that's a dynamite recipe and works great on baby-backs which I've got brewing for tomorrow. Thanks.

615 Jewels (AKA Julian)  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 7:07:32am

re: #606 right_wing2

That's what they are there for :)

616 sattv4u2  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 7:08:07am

re: #611 jcm

The youths need to see a way of achieving success, not ending up against a wall or at the end of the rope.

For decades, after graduation, their way of success is getting out of the country

617 jcm  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 7:08:18am

Somebody with way too much time on their hands.

618 Rancher  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 7:09:40am

re: #599 sattv4u2

Don't discount the fact that the Republican Guard has its fingers in every business in Iran. Business gets bad enough the military might very well support change. Rafsanjani, one of the richest men in the country and head of the Expediency Council and the Council of Experts, two of Iran’s most powerful councils of mullahs, hates Ahmadinejad. The problem is Europe won't support any strong sanctions on Iranian businesses, hell not too long ago GE was still doing business with Tehran.

619 Sharmuta  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 7:11:00am

One of the morons at the stalker blog thinks all anti-Semitism comes from the left.

What about pat buchanan and ron paul and stormfront and david duke?

620 jcm  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 7:11:16am

re: #616 sattv4u2

The youths need to see a way of achieving success, not ending up against a wall or at the end of the rope.

For decades, after graduation, their way of success is getting out of the country

Ding.

When we left in '76 the median income in Iran was $3000 a year. Since then there has been double digit inflation year on year and median income has dropped to $300.

The the repressive regime, and no hope for a new government. Yep the only way is out.

621 jcm  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 7:11:50am

re: #619 Sharmuta

One of the morons at the stalker blog thinks all anti-Semitism comes from the left.

What about pat buchanan and ron paul and stormfront and david duke?

Stupidity knows no bounds.

622 Killgore Trout  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 7:13:22am

Michelle Malkin is pushing a new conspiracy theory today about Americorps. I can't believe she still has readers after the dozens of bogus scandals she's been pushing lately.

623 realwest  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 7:13:27am

re: #608 aboo-Hoo-Hoo
Hi aboo! I can't remember it either - imagine that - I'm already an old fart - what's your excuse? LOL!
As for the Carter/Obama comparison, other than they are both DEMS and are taking us down the road to rack and ruin, there is no comparison. The minute Jimmy Carter announced publicly that the "military option" was off the table as a means of obtaining the return of our 54 citizens held hostage by the "students" (of whom Amadinnerjacket was one) he killed his chances of being re-elected. Obama, OTOH, is making and proposing to make truly structural changes in the way America is governed and the way American's feel about our nation. We are becoming less and less a nation where hard work, "sweat equity" and some luck can enable you to make it, and more and more a "Mr. Government can I PLEASE have......." President Obama is all the more dangerous because he has youth and the MSM on his side.
Remember "Nightline" started the week after the Iranian Hostages were taken and Ted Koppel was then a true journalist - he kept us informed without all the political snickering and/or applauding that the MSM now feeds us 24/7.

624 sattv4u2  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 7:13:42am

re: #618 Rancher

Rafsanjani, one of the richest men in the country and head of the Expediency Council and the Council of Experts, two of Iran’s most powerful councils of mullahs, hates Ahmadinejad.

Yet not powerful nor rich enough to prevent Ahmadinejad from "getting" 2/3rds of the vote!

There have been rich strong players behind the scenes there for decades, to no avail. Still, like then, what the mullahs want the mullahs get. And much like North Korea, as long as the top (read mullahs) get their wealth (which due to oil they will) they control the Guard

625 Killgore Trout  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 7:14:29am

re: #619 Sharmuta

I saw that too. A lot of conservatives are stuck with a revised history of left-right politics and there's no getting through to them.

626 realwest  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 7:15:14am

re: #612 right_wing2
Well it was a helluva great find, I'm telling you!

627 Jewels (AKA Julian)  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 7:15:19am

re: #619 Sharmuta

Not all Anti- Semitism comes from the Left, but a not insignificant portion DOES comes form the left.

But really, if one looks at it, most if not all Anti-Semitism comes from the More Authoritarian Branches of the Left and Right.

Right I tend to classify as advocating more personal freedom based, and the left as more statist.

But that's jsut me

628 sattv4u2  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 7:15:20am

re: #619 Sharmuta

One of the morons at the stalker blog thinks all anti-Semitism comes from the left.

What about pat buchanan and ron paul and stormfront and david duke?

Well ,,, if the left wants too I'll trade those three for a hot female lefty to, be named later
(and paranthetically, David Duke has run as both a republican and a democrat in his bids for office)

629 jcm  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 7:16:27am

re: #618 Rancher

Don't discount the fact that the Republican Guard has its fingers in every business in Iran. Business gets bad enough the military might very well support change. Rafsanjani, one of the richest men in the country and head of the Expediency Council and the Council of Experts, two of Iran’s most powerful councils of mullahs, hates Ahmadinejad. The problem is Europe won't support any strong sanctions on Iranian businesses, hell not too long ago GE was still doing business with Tehran.

The Regular Army would support change but the real power lines in the Revolutionary Guard in Iran (Republican is Iraq I get them mixed up to). The Regular military high command has been purged, plane crashes and other creative means. The RG is fanatically loyal to the Mullahs.

630 nyc redneck  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 7:17:31am

re: #616 sattv4u2

The youths need to see a way of achieving success, not ending up against a wall or at the end of the rope.

For decades, after graduation, their way of success is getting out of the country

just imagine the young people stuck in iran today. listening to stupid o's speeches as he fawns over and praises islam. and giving them no inspirational words abt. individual rights, democracy or freedom.
what a disappointment.
they must see right thru the idiot.

631 realwest  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 7:19:08am

re: #617 jcm
Very clever indeed! Thanks for that one jcm!

632 avanti  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 7:19:25am

re: #622 Killgore Trout

Michelle Malkin is pushing a new conspiracy theory today about Americorps. I can't believe she still has readers after the dozens of bogus scandals she's been pushing lately.

You have a lot of folks on the right that are upset over BHO's policies, more so because he's still popular and they are looking for anything to grab on to. It's human nature, and some will cater to the frustration.

633 Honorary Yooper  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 7:20:02am

re: #619 Sharmuta

One of the morons at the stalker blog thinks all anti-Semitism comes from the left.

What about pat buchanan and ron paul and stormfront and david duke?

Yeah, I saw that as well. I see little difference between them and their lefty cousins over at DU and other such places. We are good to be done with them here at LGF. They are as blind to the antisemitism from the right as those at DU are blind to the antisemitism on the left.

Gotta love revisionists.
/

634 jcm  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 7:21:02am

re: #630 nyc redneck

just imagine the young people stuck in iran today. listening to stupid o's speeches as he fawns over and praises islam. and giving them no inspirational words abt. individual rights, democracy or freedom.
what a disappointment.
they must see right thru the idiot.

Having to show up at the mosque on Friday, chant death to America, death to Israel, on occasion have to take part in one of those mass demonstration the MSM calls the "Arab Street" (wrong so many ways). Is it any wonder drug use is so high in Tehran?

635 Jewels (AKA Julian)  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 7:22:09am

Hot Chicken Curry

Serves 4

2 Tablespoons corn oil
¼ teaspoon fenugreek seeds
¼ teaspoon onion seeds
2 onions, chopped
½ teaspoon garlic pulp
½ teaspoon ginger pulp
1 teaspoon ground coriander
1 teaspoon chili powder
1 teaspoon salt
1 ¾ cups canned tomatoes (or fresh if you prefer)
2 tablespoons lemon juice
2 ½ cups chicken, skinned, boned and cubed
3 fresh green chilies, chopped
½ red bell pepper, cut into chunks
½ green bell pepper, cut into chunks
fresh cilantro sprigs

Step 1: in a medium sauce pan, heat the oil and fry the fenugreek and onion seeds until the turn a shade darker. Ad the chopped onions, garlic and ginger and fry for about 5 minutes until the onions turn golden brown, turn heat to very low.

Step 2. Mix the ground coriander, chili powder, salt, canned tomatoes and lemon juice in a separate bowl.

Step 3. pour this mix into the saucepan. Turn heat to medium for about 3 minutes while stir-frying.

Step 4. Add chicken and stir fry for 5-7 minutes.

Step 5. Add the fresh cilantro, green chilis and red and green bell peppers. Lower heat , cover saucepan and simmer for about 10 minutes until chicken is cooked.

Step 6. Serve hot, with cilantro sprigs

636 Honorary Yooper  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 7:22:18am

re: #35 Smilla

Fuck you, asshole.
-The Terminator

637 Jewels (AKA Julian)  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 7:22:22am

Mulligatwany soup (serves 4)

4 Tablespoons butter or oil
2 large Chicken pieces, about 12 ounces each
1 onion chopped
1 carrot chopped
1 small turnip chopped
1 tablespoon curry powder
4 cloves
6 black peppercorns, crushed
¼ cup lentels
3 ¼ cups chicken stock
¼ cup golden raisins
Salt and Ground black pepper

Step 1: melt the butter or heat the oil in a large saucepan, then brown the chicken over a brisk heat. Transfer chicken to a plate.

Step 2: add the chopped onion, carrot, and turnip to the sauce pan and cook, stirring occasionally, until lightly coloured. Stir in curry powder, cloves, peppercorns, and cook for 1-2 minutes before adding lentils

Step 3: pour in stock, bring to a boil. Add chicken and golden raisins and any juices from the plate. Cover and simmer for about 1.25 hours.

4. Remove chicken from pot. Strip bones and chop flesh into desired size, then return to pot.

638 jcm  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 7:24:09am

PJTV Andrew Klavin... The Bumper Sticker Police!

If War is not the Answer; what is the question?

639 right_wing2  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 7:24:29am

re: #619 Sharmuta

One of the morons at the stalker blog thinks all anti-Semitism comes from the left.

What about pat buchanan and ron paul and stormfront and david duke?

Exactly why I refuse to read anything by Buchanan. Unfortunately, I haven't had any luck at getting Human Events to drop his column. They won't even respond to my e-mails making that suggestion.

640 Sharmuta  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 7:25:32am

realwest? Will you please add my grandpa to the prayer list? He's in the hospital and I think prayer would help him.

641 sattv4u2  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 7:25:59am

re: #638 jcm

Whenever I', in a parking lot ands see someone with that "war is not the answer" sticker, I ALWAYS say to them

"it really depends on the question, doesn't it?"

642 Lincolntf  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 7:26:35am

re: #622 Killgore Trout

What's the conspiracy theory? The fact that Michelle Obama is involved in CNCS? You believe that that isn't true? The fact that Kevin Johnson stole (and was forced to pay back) almost half a million dollars from AmeriCorps? That's simply a fact.
I see no conspiracy (or theory) in Malkin's article.

643 jcm  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 7:28:26am

re: #641 sattv4u2

Whenever I', in a parking lot ands see someone with that "war is not the answer" sticker, I ALWAYS say to them

"it really depends on the question, doesn't it?"

Good work!

644 Lincolntf  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 7:28:55am

re: #642 Lincolntf

Here's the link for those who haven't seen it.

AmeriCorps shenanigans

645 Killgore Trout  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 7:29:40am

No google cache for this one yet but I'll link the the search page instead....
Unbelievable Coincidences Surrounding Holocaust Museum Shooting
By Pat Buchanan (Published at White Civil Rights)


At first when I heard the news of the shooting at the Holocaust Museum, it seemed like an unfortunate incident that would set back the pro-White movement. Lone nut shootings never do us any good. They create a hyper-emotional reaction that crooked politicians use to pass gun bans and hate crime legislation.

There is however a truly impressive number of strange circumstances and coincidences surrounding this shooting.
...
The thought of an 88 year old with a website is more than a little suspicious.
...
Add to this, a long list of big political events surrounding this shooting. Right wing political parties have just scored a series of victories in Europe. The British Nationalist Party (BNP) just won its first seats in the European parliament. Through an amazing “coincidence,” von Brunn allegedly has ties with the BNP.
....
Obama’s recent trip to visit various Muslim countries is another major coincidence. I’m sure the Israelis are more than a little ticked off with Obama for this. What better way to get his attention back on the Jews and their favorite propaganda issue, the Holocaust, than to arrange a shooting incident at the Holocaust museum. If the CIA could have mind control assassins, I strongly suspect the Mossad has figured this out too. Add to this the fact that von Brunn shot a Black guard at the Holocaust museum. Another coincidence designed to refocus Obama on the Jews. (I’d like to know if a Black guard is normally assigned to the front door of that museum or if this was some last minute change.)

Conspiracies are a fact of life and things like mind control experiments are very real.
....
Mind control appears to work best on the weak-minded, and what better candidate than someone 88 years old, who may be suffering from Alzheimer’s Disease?

The Jews’ Holocaust museum is all about brainwashing White children into believing Jewish lies intended to give White people a guilt complex. Attacking that museum is a mistake because it paves the way for a lot more whiny Jewish guilt-mongering, and feeds the stereotype of anti-Semites as being violent.

The Jews are the biggest murderers of the twentieth century. Jews were the founders and masters of Communism, which killed tens of millions of White Christians in Europe. Why don’t we have a museum dedicated to the well-documented and much larger mass murders of White Christians under Communism? Why do we only have a museum dedicated to alleged Jewish suffering (which an increasing number of brave historians have concluded is a load of war propaganda)?


Yikes!

646 realwest  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 7:29:42am

re: #640 Sharmuta
Absolutely will do - do you want to be any more specific (you can e-mail me if you'd rather)?

647 Sharmuta  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 7:30:36am

re: #646 realwest

He has a blood infection and he's not trying real hard to get better.... He misses grandma.

648 Killgore Trout  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 7:30:53am

re: #642 Lincolntf

Sorry but I don't take this stuff seriously enough to even look into anymore. It's all nonsense.

649 jcm  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 7:31:01am

re: #644 Lincolntf

Here's the link for those who haven't seen it.

AmeriCorps shenanigans

I don't see it as a conspiracy. Obama can replace the IG, just like GWB and WJC could replace AGs. As with many things with BHO it smells funny.

650 Killgore Trout  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 7:31:35am

re: #639 right_wing2

see 645

651 Lincolntf  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 7:31:43am

re: #648 Killgore Trout

Embezzling from public agencies is nonsense? Good to know.

652 reine.de.tout  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 7:32:37am

re: #645 Killgore Trout

No google cache for this one yet but I'll link the the search page instead....
Unbelievable Coincidences Surrounding Holocaust Museum Shooting
By Pat Buchanan (Published at White Civil Rights)


Yikes!

Yikes indeed!
What a really nasty piece of work!
I feel like washing my brain after reading that.

653 jcm  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 7:33:04am

re: #645 Killgore Trout

No google cache for this one yet but I'll link the the search page instead....
Unbelievable Coincidences Surrounding Holocaust Museum Shooting
By Pat Buchanan (Published at White Civil Rights)


Thanks KT, I'm heading to DECON now!

Send it to the Large Lizard that's a worth a thread or tree.

I think I'll hurl too.

Yikes!

654 realwest  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 7:33:10am

re: #647 Sharmuta
Ah geez Shar - I'm so sorry to hear that, I truly am.
Do the doc's have any kind of diagnosis/prognosis yet?
How old is he and how long ago did your grandmother pass away?

655 Lincolntf  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 7:33:34am

re: #649 jcm

There is no "conspiracy theory", that's just what people say when they don't want to look at an issue honestly. It's an easy out.
The part about KJ (I'll have to go find another link for that one) is worse than Michelle big-footing the agency.

656 KenJen  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 7:34:02am

re: #638 jcm

PJTV Andrew Klavin... The Bumper Sticker Police!



If War is not the Answer; what is the question?

I would love to be a Bumper Sticker police officer. Dream job. I saw one the other day. I was pulling up to a red light. The car in front had a large O on it in the Obama style. As I got closer I saw the small word shit next to it.

657 realwest  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 7:34:06am

re: #648 Killgore Trout

Sorry but I don't take this stuff seriously enough to even look into anymore. It's all nonsense.

Then why do you "report" on it? And how do you know it's shennagins?

658 jcm  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 7:34:35am

re: #645 Killgore Trout

Should I up ding that for a good post, or down ding for content......

Up it is.

659 sattv4u2  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 7:34:45am

re: #643 jcm

Good work!

been doing it for years. I LOVE the looks on their faces. A few have actively tried to engage me in convo, about how Iraq was a disaster. Vietnam ,, blah blah

So I say

"China is 20 miles off the coast of California. It's bombing San Diego, L.A., San Fran, Seattle and Portland

You can either
A) surrender and give them California
B) fight back (i.e. go to war)
C) show them your bumper sticker to impress upon them that War Is Not The Answer

you have 30 seconds to choose"

660 Sharmuta  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 7:34:48am

re: #654 realwest

He should be fine if we can keep him from getting pneumonia. Gram passed away about a year and a half ago.

661 reine.de.tout  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 7:35:17am

re: #649 jcm

I don't see it as a conspiracy. Obama can replace the IG, just like GWB and WJC could replace AGs. As with many things with BHO it smells funny.

My understanding is that an Inspector General replacement requires notice or participation by Congress - different than AG, which is purely presidential whim.

662 Jewels (AKA Julian)  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 7:35:44am

re: #653 jcm

oy......

663 jcm  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 7:37:24am

re: #661 reine.de.tout

My understanding is that an Inspector General replacement requires notice or participation by Congress - different than AG, which is purely presidential whim.

New info.... changes the story....
Who's congress to tell The One how to run things?

664 realwest  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 7:38:03am

re: #660 Sharmuta
OK - BBIAM!

665 MandyManners  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 7:39:24am

re: #645 Killgore Trout

No google cache for this one yet but I'll link the the search page instead....
Unbelievable Coincidences Surrounding Holocaust Museum Shooting
By Pat Buchanan (Published at White Civil Rights)


Yikes!

He's a fucking Nazi.

666 Lincolntf  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 7:39:38am

Here's a short bit on KJ. It appears that he only has to pay back about 75 grand of the money he "misappropriated" (read:stole).
His "non-profit" org. will pay the remaining hundreds of thousands of dollars.

KJ

667 MandyManners  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 7:40:02am

re: #645 Killgore Trout

No google cache for this one yet but I'll link the the search page instead....
Unbelievable Coincidences Surrounding Holocaust Museum Shooting
By Pat Buchanan (Published at White Civil Rights)


Yikes!

And, he's fucking crazy.

668 Jewels (AKA Julian)  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 7:40:44am

OT: And this weeks review is

[Link: www.escapistmagazine.com...]

669 Sharmuta  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 7:40:52am

re: #665 MandyManners

He's a fucking Nazi.

He can't be. The stalkers say all anti-Semitism is from the left.

670 realwest  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 7:41:01am

re: #661 reine.de.tout

My understanding is that an Inspector General replacement requires notice or participation by Congress - different than AG, which is purely presidential whim.


You are correct - but I think you meant US Attorneys, not the AG. And note that the US Attorney involved in this is an "Acting" US Attorney. I think "acting" because Obama hasn't yet gotten around to naming all the new US Attorneys.

671 sattv4u2  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 7:41:12am

re: #645 Killgore Trout

No google cache for this one yet but I'll link the the search page instead....
Unbelievable Coincidences Surrounding Holocaust Museum Shooting
By Pat Buchanan (Published at White Civil Rights)

KILGORE ,,,, that was NOT written by Pat Buchanan, as you're trying to say. It's JAMES BUCHANAN, who runs the org WHITE CIVIL RIGHTS


Retraction please.
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

672 MandyManners  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 7:41:12am

Mind-control assassin? He sounds straight out of David Icke's mental illness.

673 jcm  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 7:41:40am

re: #670 realwest

You are correct - but I think you meant US Attorneys, not the AG. And note that the US Attorney involved in this is an "Acting" US Attorney. I think "acting" because Obama hasn't yet gotten around to naming all the new US Attorneys.

My bad I said AG, US Attys is correct.

674 MandyManners  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 7:41:56am

re: #671 sattv4u2

No google cache for this one yet but I'll link the the search page instead....
Unbelievable Coincidences Surrounding Holocaust Museum Shooting
By Pat Buchanan (Published at White Civil Rights)

KILGORE ,,,, that was NOT written by Pat Buchanan, as you're trying to say. It's JAMES BUCHANAN, who runs the org WHITE CIVIL RIGHTS


Retraction please.
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

Oh, wow. Thanks.

I knew Pat was quite off but, not that off.

675 realwest  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 7:42:05am

re: #660 Sharmuta On The List now, will be published in Sunday's DT.

676 sattv4u2  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 7:42:13am

re: #671 sattv4u2

No google cache for this one yet but I'll link the the search page instead....
Unbelievable Coincidences Surrounding Holocaust Museum Shooting
By Pat Buchanan (Published at White Civil Rights)

KILGORE ,,,, that was NOT written by Pat Buchanan, as you're trying to say. It's JAMES BUCHANAN, who runs the org WHITE CIVIL RIGHTS


Retraction please.
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

677 Killgore Trout  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 7:42:15am

re: #658 jcm

It's so outrageous that I almost believe that it might not have been written by Pat. I don't see it posted on his site.

678 Sharmuta  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 7:42:16am

Except the story says "James Buchanan".

679 reine.de.tout  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 7:42:18am

re: #663 jcm

New info.... changes the story....
Who's congress to tell The One how to run things?

Sen. Chuck Grassley, R-Iowa, in a letter to Obama, pointed to a law requiring that Congress be given the reasons an IG is fired. He cited a Senate report saying the requirement is designed to ensure that inspectors general are not removed for political reasons. Grassley said Walpin had identified millions of dollars in AmeriCorps funds that were wasted or misspent and “it appears he has been doing a good job.”

680 jcm  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 7:42:27am

re: #672 MandyManners

Mind-control assassin? He sounds straight out of David Icke's mental illness.

We're fine tuning the chemtrails to achieve results on a individual level!

BWAHAHAHAHAHA!

////////////

681 jcm  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 7:43:13am

re: #677 Killgore Trout

It's so outrageous that I almost believe that it might not have been written by Pat. I don't see it posted on his site.

Possible, with his recent trajectory...

682 Killgore Trout  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 7:43:24am

re: #671 sattv4u2

No google cache for this one yet but I'll link the the search page instead....
Unbelievable Coincidences Surrounding Holocaust Museum Shooting
By Pat Buchanan (Published at White Civil Rights)

KILGORE ,,,, that was NOT written by Pat Buchanan, as you're trying to say. It's JAMES BUCHANAN, who runs the org WHITE CIVIL RIGHTS

Retraction please.
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

Ah, nice catch! I knew something was amiss. Thanks.

683 Lincolntf  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 7:43:34am

re: #671 sattv4u2

Heh. If Killgore retracted every one of his posts that turned out to be misleading he'd have another 10,000 posts to his name.

684 sattv4u2  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 7:43:54am

re: #678 Sharmuta

Except the story says "James Buchanan".

James Buchanan runs the org WHITE CIVIL RIGHTS. This was NOT written by Pat, as Kilgore stated

685 Killgore Trout  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 7:44:09am

re: #683 Lincolntf

fuck you.

686 realwest  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 7:44:18am

re: #666 Lincolntf
That can't be right, Lincolntf! If KJ had to repay anything personally, that would mean he'd done something wrong and we all know, according to Killgore, that that's all rubbish!

687 jcm  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 7:44:27am

re: #671 sattv4u2

No google cache for this one yet but I'll link the the search page instead....
Unbelievable Coincidences Surrounding Holocaust Museum Shooting
By Pat Buchanan (Published at White Civil Rights)

KILGORE ,,,, that was NOT written by Pat Buchanan, as you're trying to say. It's JAMES BUCHANAN, who runs the org WHITE CIVIL RIGHTS

Retraction please.
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

Thanks,

James Buchanan is vile......

688 Killgore Trout  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 7:44:59am

re: #686 realwest

Downding.

689 right_wing2  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 7:45:20am

re: #626 realwest

The sad thing is I think I lost it when my computer crashed back in December. If I can find a copy, I'll see if I can send it to you.

690 sattv4u2  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 7:45:27am

re: #687 jcm

Thanks,

James Buchanan is vile......

Well ,,, Pat can be also ///, but this guy James is out there where the buses don;t run.

691 haakondahl  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 7:45:29am

re: #619 Sharmuta

One of the morons at the stalker blog thinks all anti-Semitism comes from the left.

What about pat buchanan and ron paul and stormfront and david duke?

Leftists.

692 Sharmuta  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 7:45:54am

re: #684 sattv4u2

And Killgore has never shied away from corrections and admitting when he's in error.

However- I'd like to know the stalker reaction to that piece of vileness since they think all anti-Semitism comes from the left. This James Buchanan seems pretty right wing to me.

693 Sharmuta  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 7:46:40am

re: #691 haakondahl

LOL! Naturally....

694 Sharmuta  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 7:47:22am

re: #675 realwest

On The List now, will be published in Sunday's DT.

Thank you.

695 realwest  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 7:47:26am

re: #671 sattv4u2
Good morning! Uh, I went to your link and got:
"This page has been deleted. The deletion log for the page is provided below for reference.

07:12, 20 January 2008 Jayron32 (talk %P% contribs) deleted "James Buchanan (activist)" ‎ (CSD A7 (Bio): Biographical article that does not assert significance)"

But it was a nice shade of pink!

696 reine.de.tout  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 7:47:39am

re: #670 realwest

You are correct - but I think you meant US Attorneys, not the AG. And note that the US Attorney involved in this is an "Acting" US Attorney. I think "acting" because Obama hasn't yet gotten around to naming all the new US Attorneys.

Yes, you're right, US Attorney is what I meant.

In this case, though, Obama is trying to replace an Inspector General, and that requires a notice to Congress.

Reports are that this guy received an e-mail telling him to resign immediately or he would be fired. I'll see if I can find a link.

697 jcm  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 7:47:58am

re: #690 sattv4u2

Well ,,, Pat can be also ///, but this guy James is out there where the buses don;t run.

I don't think roads, or phone lines go out that far.

698 sattv4u2  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 7:47:59am

re: #645 Killgore Trout

re: #688 Killgore Trout

Downding.

And one for your 645 for reflexively jumping to a conclusion AND changing the name from James to Pat

BTW,,, did you sprain an ankle when you jumped?

699 sattv4u2  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 7:48:52am

re: #695 realwest

Good morning! Uh, I went to your link and got:
"This page has been deleted. The deletion log for the page is provided below for reference.

07:12, 20 January 2008 Jayron32 (talk %P% contribs) deleted "James Buchanan (activist)" ‎ (CSD A7 (Bio): Biographical article that does not assert significance)"

But it was a nice shade of pink!

Yes ,, seems as if Wike (ey al) want nothing to do with this peice of human trash

700 right_wing2  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 7:49:13am

re: #650 Killgore Trout

Maybe H.E. will finally start to listen to my suggestion?

701 haakondahl  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 7:49:38am

re: #627 Jewels (AKA Julian)

Not all Anti- Semitism comes from the Left, but a not insignificant portion DOES comes form the left.

But really, if one looks at it, most if not all Anti-Semitism comes from the More Authoritarian Branches of the Left and Right.

Right I tend to classify as advocating more personal freedom based, and the left as more statist.

But that's jsut me

According to Salamantis, racism is the defining characteristic of the right.

702 Sharmuta  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 7:49:39am

re: #698 sattv4u2

What part of his #682 did you miss. He made a mistake and acknowledged it.

703 Killgore Trout  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 7:49:41am

re: #698 sattv4u2

It was an honest mistake and I thanked you for correcting me. I don't know what more you could expect.

704 Killgore Trout  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 7:50:22am

re: #702 Sharmuta

It really gets tiresome around here some days.

705 sattv4u2  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 7:50:24am

re: #692 Sharmuta

re: #685 Killgore Trout

fuck you.

And Killgore has never shied away from corrections and admitting when he's in error.

And he does it so graciously!

706 Lincolntf  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 7:51:25am

re: #698 sattv4u2

I love that he actually had to change the name manually. Classic Killgore.

707 sattv4u2  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 7:51:50am

re: #704 Killgore Trout

It really gets tiresome around here some days.

Something we 100% agree on!

708 reine.de.tout  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 7:52:30am

re: #670 realwest

You are correct - but I think you meant US Attorneys, not the AG. And note that the US Attorney involved in this is an "Acting" US Attorney. I think "acting" because Obama hasn't yet gotten around to naming all the new US Attorneys.

It appears the guy got a phone call from the WH giving him an hour to resign

But he didn't.

709 Chekote  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 7:52:42am
You have a lot of folks on the right that are upset over BHO's policies, more so because he's still popular and they are looking for anything to grab on to. It's human nature, and some will cater to the frustration.

Exactly on point. But it is getting out of hand and they are creating some real damage to the conservative movement. After the election, I watched Beck and enjoyed his show. Now I am embarrassed to admit that I went to his "We Surround Them" event. My seconds thoughts began the movement he started crying during his 9/12 broadcast. It has been downhill since. His recent comment that the holocaust attack was a sign of things to come is downright irresponsible. Instead of
harping on idiot Letterman, the conservative movement would be better served by reining in Beck, Malkin, etc.

710 sattv4u2  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 7:53:51am

re: #702 Sharmuta

What part of his #682 did you miss. He made a mistake and acknowledged it.

Sharm ,, you DO know that he PURPOSEFULLY changed the name from James to Pat, don;t you?

Directly from the link, it CLEARLY states James B.

He cut and pasted that, and then changed the JAMES to PAT

Thats NOt a "mistake"

sorry

711 realwest  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 7:54:20am

re: #683 Lincolntf
HEY - listen my friend, that was a) not even remotely true and b) totally unnecessary.
I'm just saying this to you as you friend, ok?

712 Lincolntf  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 7:55:01am

re: #710 sattv4u2

Uh Oh, now you're a conspiracy theorist!

713 Sharmuta  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 7:55:43am

re: #710 sattv4u2

How do you know he "purposefully" changed the name? Where you in the room when he did that?

714 Lincolntf  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 7:55:44am

re: #711 realwest

Thanks for the input.

715 sattv4u2  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 7:56:06am

re: #712 Lincolntf

Uh Oh, now you're a conspiracy theorist!

and a tea bagger!

716 realwest  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 7:57:46am

re: #688 Killgore Trout
Why downding Killgore? You did say that MM's site had some bullshit on it about this situation and now we find out that KJ has to personally repay $75,000 - that means it's either bullshit or not bullshit - and frankly if Kevin Johnson has to personally come out of pocket for $75k I'm inclined to believe it's not as much bullshit as you at least suspect.

717 albusteve  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 7:57:47am

piling on is not a good thing...it has a cheezy bully quality to it

718 right_wing2  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 7:57:59am

RealWest:

I found that picture, if you're interested

719 [deleted]  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 7:58:17am
720 realwest  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 7:58:22am

re: #689 right_wing2
Hey Thanks - if you can find it; if not don't sweat it!

721 Lincolntf  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 7:59:07am

re: #719 sattv4u2

Seems pretty obvious to me, but I'm just some dumb right-winger.

722 wrenchwench  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 7:59:35am

G'morning, honcos. No complaints from me this morning. I read the first couple of chapters of Corrie ten Boom's A Prisoner and Yet over breakfast. Nothing like reading about trying to sleep in prison with a pillow containing rotting straw to make one appreciate a shower more than ever.

723 haakondahl  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 8:00:04am

re: #710 sattv4u2

Sharm ,, you DO know that he PURPOSEFULLY changed the name from James to Pat, don;t you?

Directly from the link, it CLEARLY states James B.

He cut and pasted that, and then changed the JAMES to PAT

Thats NOt a "mistake"

sorry

If the name were within the blockquote, or at least after the part where he typed "(Published at ...)", then your case would be unassailable. As it is, it's he said / he said, and I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt. By a slim margin, but KT is the only person who knows how it got there, and he says it's a mistake. It's the sort of mistake I might make, and would certainly prefer the benefit of the doubt if I confuse two assholes momentarily.

724 Sharmuta  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 8:00:06am

re: #719 sattv4u2

Oh come the fuck on! He said it was an honest mistake. I have no reason to doubt him because he already said sorry and thank you. But carry on and God forbid you ever make a mistake.

725 haakondahl  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 8:01:55am

By the way, I won't be checking the link from a gov't network, even if it is MWR, so I'll have to argue third-hand all the way.

726 brucee  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 8:02:15am

re: #455 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

He didn't just cheat, it was a coup. Of course when the same group designs, runs, supervises the election with no external monitoring and then investigates potential complaints, it's highly likely that election turns into selection.

Conservatives in Iran lose whenever voter turnout is large, 60% is usually the tipping point. That's when cheating becomes ineffective. This time turnout went past 80%, so Ahamadinejad and Leader were toast.

There are rumors flying around that it was a fatwa from Khamenei that Ahamadinejad must win with a landslide because Mousavi will be a threat to country and Islam.

Fars News, the semi official Revolutionary Guards news service announced a rather accurate prediction of results and declared Ahmadinejad winner last night, long before Interior Ministry officials even started releasing the initial counts. They pulled the news off their website later.

Now police are beating protesters on the streets.

727 right_wing2  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 8:02:24am

re: #720 realwest

Just found it a few minutes ago

728 sattv4u2  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 8:02:27am

re: #724 Sharmuta

Oh come the fuck on! He said it was an honest mistake. I have no reason to doubt him because he already said sorry and thank you. But carry on and God forbid you ever make a mistake.

heh,,,, a mistake is putting on one black sock and one navy blue one while dressing without a light on

ON PURPOSE is putting 2 white socks on, then saying fuck that, and CHANGing one to a black one

Can you see the difference.

729 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 8:03:02am

Official: Obama Administration Skeptical of Iran's Election Results

U.S. officials are casting doubt over the results of Iran's election, in which the government declared President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad the winner Saturday.

U.S. analysts find it "not credible" that challenger Mir Hossein Mousavi would have lost the balloting in his hometown or that a third candidate, Mehdi Karoubi, would have received less than 1 percent of the total vote, a senior U.S. officials told FOX News.

Gee, weally? The story closes:

The dominant view among Obama administration officials, though not uncontested, is that the regime will look so bad as a result of whipping up Iranian hopes for democracy and then squelching them that the regime may feel compelled to show some conciliatory response to President Obama's gestures of engagement.

Uh-huh...the Mullah's would order Obamicorns© and multicolor CandyPharts© to placate the populace for rigging the elections.

got it.

730 Lincolntf  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 8:03:34am

re: #728 sattv4u2

We might as well let it go. Killgore gets a free pass for his faux-quote. Some animals are more equal than others.

731 Killgore Trout  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 8:03:35am

re: #706 Lincolntf

I love that he actually had to change the name manually. Classic Killgore.

It was quicker to type rather than cut and paste between windows. It was an honest mistake. I thanked you for the correction and updinged it. So now you are accusing me of intentionally defaming Pat Buchanan? Give me a break, you're on the wrong blog, pal.

732 [deleted]  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 8:04:08am
733 jcm  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 8:04:19am

Post election unrest in Tehran - Iran

Raw amateur footage from Tehran, Iran, 13 JUN 2009.

Got these just now via Twitter.

734 Sharmuta  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 8:04:37am

GAZE GAZE GAZE

735 sattv4u2  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 8:05:02am

re: #730 Lincolntf

We might as well let it go. Killgore gets a free pass for his faux-quote. Some animals are more equal than others.

dare I upding you for that?

oh ,,, what the hell!

736 Lincolntf  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 8:05:10am

re: #731 Killgore Trout

I accused you of defaming Pat Buchanan? Where did that happen, or did you just make another "mistake"?

737 Sharmuta  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 8:05:23am

And don't link racist trash.

738 Killgore Trout  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 8:05:38am

re: #732 sattv4u2

Stop linking to that site.

739 MandyManners  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 8:05:43am

re: #729 aboo-Hoo-Hoo

Official: Obama Administration Skeptical of Iran's Election Results


Uh-huh...the Mullah's would order Obamicorns© and multicolor CandyPharts© to placate the populace for rigging the elections.

got it.

the regime may feel compelled to show some conciliatory response to President Obama's gestures of engagement.

Typical narcissistic bullshit.

740 albusteve  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 8:06:22am

re: #730 Lincolntf

We might as well let it go. Killgore gets a free pass for his faux-quote. Some animals are more equal than others.

you call the pounding you administer a free pass?...what more do you want?...you should drop it and move on

741 Killgore Trout  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 8:06:25am

re: #734 Sharmuta

Yeah, this is getting out of control.

742 brucee  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 8:06:58am

re: #514 Rancher

Riot police are out in force and cell phone text messaging is blocked.

And they have guns, people don't. Some governments don't want people to carry guns. One wonders why.

Also Communications Minister still doesn't know who shut down SMS service, which by the way is run by his ministry.

743 jcm  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 8:07:22am

Iranians chant for overthrow of Ahmadinejad

If my Persian is still any good the refrain is "Mahmoud has to go."

744 Rancher  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 8:07:31am

re: #624 sattv4u2

re: #629 jcm

I'm not so sure the Mullahs got what they wanted, they let Mousavi run for a reason. The Revolutionary Guards, (my mistake) are more loyal to Ahmadinejad than the Mullahs, at least for now, at least in the higher echelons. It's like the Soviet Union used to be and China still is, power is housed in different institutions and positions and there is no one monolithic leader, not even the Supreme Leader. I think we have a power grab here by Ahmadinejad and the Mullahs are going along for the moment. It could get interesting.

745 Killgore Trout  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 8:07:37am

BTW, the mix up of Pat and James aside, it's still an article worthy of discussion.

746 MandyManners  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 8:08:18am

EVERYONE take a chill-pill.

747 Sharmuta  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 8:08:29am

re: #741 Killgore Trout

So- how about that rigged iranian election?

748 jcm  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 8:08:37am

re: #742 brucee

And they have guns, people don't. Some governments don't want people to carry guns. One wonders why.

Also Communications Minister still doesn't know who shut down SMS service, which by the way is run by his ministry.

Pasadaran are in every agency and ministry.

749 Killgore Trout  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 8:08:58am

re: #743 jcm

I haven't been following the story. Any chance of civil unrest?

750 MandyManners  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 8:09:25am

re: #745 Killgore Trout

BTW, the mix up of Pat and James aside, it's still an article worthy of discussion.

Really? The rantings and ravings of a genuine White Power kook are worthy of discussion?

751 realwest  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 8:10:09am

re: #701 haakondahl

According to Salamantis, racism is the defining characteristic of the right.


Well first of all Anti-Semitism isn't racial bigotry it's relgious bigotry.
And secondly, as much as I respect Salamantis, I would take issue with his statement. Kindly remember that the Democratic Party ruled the South when it tried to leave the Union, the Democratic Party (you know, the party of FDR, LBJ et. al.) ran the South up through the late 1960's with their fucking Jim Crow Laws and Voter Literacy tests and the Dem's ran Arkansas when Ike threated to sic the 82dn Airborne on Governor Orville Faubus for defying the SCOTUS in Brown v. Board of Education. Moreover the Dems ran the (mostly) Northern Cities like Boston who tried to defy bussing as a means to achieving racial segregation.
And I sincerely doubt that there was a racist bone in either Barry Goldwater, William F. Buckley, Jr. or John McCain's bodies.
OTOH, It's apparent at least to me that there is a lot of racism -black vs white on the part of some notable figures today, e.g., "Rev." Jeremiah Wright and Obama getting something over 95% of the Black American vote.
It's a problem with painting with such a broad brush, IMO.

752 Killgore Trout  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 8:10:20am

re: #747 Sharmuta

I haven't paid much attention. I doubt anything is going to change. Sham electionas are par for the course and I think the Iranian people are a long ways away from overthrowing the government.

753 MandyManners  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 8:10:43am

re: #743 jcm

You speak Farsi?

754 brucee  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 8:10:44am

re: #733 jcm

Post election unrest in Tehran - Iran

Raw amateur footage from Tehran, Iran, 13 JUN 2009.

Got these just now via Twitter.


They're chanting "Death to this fraudulent government."

755 Lincolntf  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 8:10:55am

I'm gonna go mow the lawn.

756 Killgore Trout  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 8:11:36am

re: #750 MandyManners

Yes, they're insane and quite dangerous. I'm pretty sure we're going to see much more violence from them over the next few years.

757 Sharmuta  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 8:11:49am

re: #755 Lincolntf

Be sure to do it perfectly. We wouldn't want anyone harassing you if you made a mistake.

758 Killgore Trout  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 8:12:59am

re: #757 Sharmuta

....and make sure not to mow a neighbor's lawn. That would be outrageously bad.

759 haakondahl  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 8:13:01am

re: #732 sattv4u2

in the link provided by KT it clearly states "By James Buchanan".

www.whitecivilrights.com

Iron Fist rule?

In KT's post, it says "By Pat Buchanan (Published at ...)", and that is in the part which HE wrote. He obviously did not cut & paste the part which says "published at ..." from that place, unless they refer to themselves that way, in the header of an article right there. I bet they don't, but as I said, I'm not going to check from here. If you say that they do, then fine.

But that means that the "Pat Buchana" part was obviously NOT pasted in along with the article and selectively not selected for blockquote, then edited.

Rather, it looks like all of the parts not in the blockquote were penned by KT, and he probably keyed on the name Buchanan, fixed on that loathsome image, and wrote Pat Buchanan when the editing was done.

So I can't go there with you, unless you tell me that over at that site, it says "By James Buchanan (Published at ...)".

760 jcm  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 8:13:06am

re: #744 Rancher

re: #629 jcm

I'm not so sure the Mullahs got what they wanted, they let Mousavi run for a reason. The Revolutionary Guards, (my mistake) are more loyal to Ahmadinejad than the Mullahs, at least for now, at least in the higher echelons. It's like the Soviet Union used to be and China still is, power is housed in different institutions and positions and there is no one monolithic leader, not even the Supreme Leader. I think we have a power grab here by Ahmadinejad and the Mullahs are going along for the moment. It could get interesting.

I often when get all the "guards" mixed up....

My read, and what I hear from the expat community is that the Mullah's grip is pretty solid and they play games with their own people, give them hope then pull it out of reach. And with western perceptions.

If anything, I see the hardliners fed up and reasserting control. This also means they mean be closer than farther from nukes, and issuing ultimatums. They can't afford any "mistakes" this close to the finish line.

761 MandyManners  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 8:13:16am

re: #756 Killgore Trout

Yes, they're insane and quite dangerous. I'm pretty sure we're going to see much more violence from them over the next few years.

They're not worth discussing. To me, they're just as nuts as David Icke.

762 nyc redneck  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 8:13:56am

re: #729 aboo-Hoo-Hoo

Official: Obama Administration Skeptical of Iran's Election Results

Uh-huh...the Mullah's would order Obamicorns© and multicolor CandyPharts© to placate the populace for rigging the elections.

got it.

of course they are "skeptical." they wanted dinnerjac bounced out so o could take credit for inspiring the people of iran.
rush played a clip yesterday of o saying, 'after my speech in cairo we tried to send a message that there is a possibility of "change".'
it was incredible how exuberant he sounded abt. his ability to effect major changes in the m.e. by the power of his empty words.
what a conceited fool.

763 realwest  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 8:14:04am

re: #717 albusteve
Yeah, and it's also sort of Junior High Schoolish as well.
We are (I believe) all adults out here and the amount of vitriol here seems to increase day by day. It's unpleasant, non-informative and not worthy of LGF's high standards in my not so fucking humble opinion.

764 realwest  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 8:14:41am

re: #718 right_wing2
Hey I am! My nic's in blue if y'all can e-mail it to me!
Thanks!

765 Sharmuta  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 8:14:44am

re: #759 haakondahl

So I can't go there with you, unless you tell me that over at that site, it says "By James Buchanan (Published at ...)".

And it doesn't.

766 jcm  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 8:15:14am

re: #749 Killgore Trout

I haven't been following the story. Any chance of civil unrest?

Yes.

Successful?

Doubtful.

Unless the west and Obama issue statement clearly supporting regime change.

The election is a Potemkin village. It's all about power struggles in Iran and adjusting western political attitudes toward Iran.

767 albusteve  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 8:15:30am

re: #756 Killgore Trout

Yes, they're insane and quite dangerous. I'm pretty sure we're going to see much more violence from them over the next few years.

I am too...they told me not to go there last year but here we are...my fear is that extremists will eventually pack up and become sophisticated to the point that it becomes a huge issue...it can happen and it will...roving bands of clandestine killers or thatever

768 albusteve  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 8:17:12am

re: #758 Killgore Trout

....and make sure not to mow a neighbor's lawn. That would be outrageously bad.

only if she's a left wing disabled lesbian...let's be fair

769 Killgore Trout  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 8:18:59am

re: #759 haakondahl

Thanks. Also, Pat was the topic of discussion on the thread at the time which made it an easy mistake to make. It's just insane that regular lizards think I'm intentionally defaming someone as vile as Pat Buchanan.

770 jcm  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 8:19:08am

re: #767 albusteve

I am too...they told me not to go there last year but here we are...my fear is that extremists will eventually pack up and become sophisticated to the point that it becomes a huge issue...it can happen and it will...roving bands of clandestine killers or thatever

I really hope your crystal ball has a major malfunction ongoing.

That sanity will prevail and we don't go that route. Speaking out against the radical right and loony left will help..... I think.....

771 realwest  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 8:19:58am

re: #752 Killgore Trout

I haven't paid much attention. I doubt anything is going to change. Sham electionas are par for the course and I think the Iranian people are a long ways away from overthrowing the government.


Yeah, I agree - I think it's gonna take some violence from the Iranian people to change Iran and despite all the "news" about unrest among Iranians I sure as hell haven' seen it.

772 haakondahl  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 8:21:35am

re: #751 realwest

Well first of all Anti-Semitism isn't racial bigotry it's relgious bigotry.
And secondly, as much as I respect Salamantis, I would take issue with his statement. Kindly remember that the Democratic Party ruled the South when it tried to leave the Union, the Democratic Party (you know, the party of FDR, LBJ et. al.) ran the South up through the late 1960's with their fucking Jim Crow Laws and Voter Literacy tests and the Dem's ran Arkansas when Ike threated to sic the 82dn Airborne on Governor Orville Faubus for defying the SCOTUS in Brown v. Board of Education. Moreover the Dems ran the (mostly) Northern Cities like Boston who tried to defy bussing as a means to achieving racial segregation.
And I sincerely doubt that there was a racist bone in either Barry Goldwater, William F. Buckley, Jr. or John McCain's bodies.
OTOH, It's apparent at least to me that there is a lot of racism -black vs white on the part of some notable figures today, e.g., "Rev." Jeremiah Wright and Obama getting something over 95% of the Black American vote.
It's a problem with painting with such a broad brush, IMO.

Well, my friend, good luck convincing Sal. Perhaps Goldwater, Buckley, and McCain were not True Rightists, or were ignorant of their own motives.

I'm not going to get into all the dinging and name-calling, but I thought that Sal had a pretty good debate partner last night. Evenly matched.

773 Killgore Trout  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 8:23:22am

re: #768 albusteve

I got in touch with a gay a lesbian charity for her a few weeks ago. It's surprising how fast they got to work. They designated the spot in front of her house a handicapped parking space so nobody can take her spot. They installed a handrail to help her get into her house, volunteers show up once a week or so to do yardwork and a city van shows up to drive her around (I assume helping with errands or doctor visits). It's only been like 3 weeks since I called. Pretty impressive.

774 sattv4u2  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 8:23:29am

RE: IRAN

Once again, for over 3 decades we've been hearing how the youth love western culture and how the academics are fostering 'unrest'.
We used to hear the same thing about the Iraqi people (much more limited, I grant you, but there were always rumblings)

Much like the Iraqis, nothing will change in Iran unless and until an outside power FORCES it to change, and with the current climate in Washington as well as the UN, IT AIN'T HAPPNIN

775 albusteve  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 8:24:08am

re: #770 jcm

I really hope your crystal ball has a major malfunction ongoing.

That sanity will prevail and we don't go that route. Speaking out against the radical right and loony left will help..... I think.....

we have excellent law enforcement and conspiracy laws too...our ace in the hole...my nightmare scenario is nothing short of a plunge into the third world...we'll see...radical religionists seem to be waxing

776 haakondahl  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 8:24:17am

re: #769 Killgore Trout

Thanks. Also, Pat was the topic of discussion on the thread at the time which made it an easy mistake to make. It's just insane that regular lizards think I'm intentionally defaming someone as vile as Pat Buchanan.

Shut up you fat lesbian.

777 Sharmuta  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 8:24:18am

re: #773 Killgore Trout

I got in touch with a gay a lesbian charity for her a few weeks ago. It's surprising how fast they got to work. They designated the spot in front of her house a handicapped parking space so nobody can take her spot. They installed a handrail to help her get into her house, volunteers show up once a week or so to do yardwork and a city van shows up to drive her around (I assume helping with errands or doctor visits). It's only been like 3 weeks since I called. Pretty impressive.

You're such a bastard. ;)

778 realwest  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 8:24:35am

re: #767 albusteve
Hey my friend - "it can happen and it will...roving bands of clandestine killers or thatever"
do you really believe that? I mean (the topics have been all over the board this morning!) do you think roving bands of Neo-Nazi's are gonna go around killing people?

779 Killgore Trout  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 8:24:59am

re: #773 Killgore Trout

I got in touch with a gay and lesbian


You stink! You intentionally omitted the "nd" to perpetuate your fascist lies!
/

780 sattv4u2  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 8:25:04am

re: #773 Killgore Trout

I got in touch with a gay a lesbian charity for her a few weeks ago. It's surprising how fast they got to work. They designated the spot in front of her house a handicapped parking space so nobody can take her spot. They installed a handrail to help her get into her house, volunteers show up once a week or so to do yardwork and a city van shows up to drive her around (I assume helping with errands or doctor visits). It's only been like 3 weeks since I called. Pretty impressive.

Good for you. Must be a relief for you knowing that someone (other than you) is looking out for her

781 NelsFree  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 8:25:14am

Good Morning all,

Have you seen this headline on Drudge?
US-cities-may-have-to-be-bulldozed-in-order-to-survive

[Link: www.telegraph.co.uk...]

Dozens of US cities may have entire neighbourhoods bulldozed as part of drastic "shrink to survive" proposals being considered by the Obama administration to tackle economic decline.

Rather than summer-ize the article (especially since it is still Spring), I shall include the most recent and, in my humble opinion, cogent post:

"Just remember that it was the UAW (auto union) that killed Flint and ran GM and Buick out of the area. Also, regarding the dilapidated city of Detroit this is also another failed Democrat/Progressive idea. To the commenter who says that progressives are full of new ideas and that conservatives have none -- all of Michigan has been and is now a failed progressive idea. Just because something is new to you doesn't mean that it is new to everyone else. New Orleans and Galveston have a brighter future then Michigan -- and they were both destroyed by hurricanes!
The rest of the USA should look at Michigan as the future for the rest of the country if the Democrats have their way -- unions, high taxes, entitlement society, out of control government, and mostly power hungry political leaders who are beholden to special interest. All and all this is not a bad idea but the federal government should have nothing to do with it. These decisions should be made at the state and local levels. (italics mine, I always wanted to do that someday -ed.) This idea doesn't make Obama smart, it just makes the leadership in Flint stupid for not doing this decades ago. What do you expect? Twenty years ago they thought they were going to save the city by creating a automotive themed amusement park called 'Auto World'."

I believe the poster, MIWingman, gets it.

782 Rancher  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 8:26:02am

It was Iranian students who overthrew the Shaw while under the gun of a very oppressive regime. What's different, why can't it happen again?

783 realwest  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 8:26:27am

re: #769 Killgore Trout
I'm not even sure it's possible to defame someone like Pat Buchanan. At least not over neo-nazi's and his connections with same.

784 albusteve  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 8:26:57am

re: #773 Killgore Trout

I got in touch with a gay a lesbian charity for her a few weeks ago. It's surprising how fast they got to work. They designated the spot in front of her house a handicapped parking space so nobody can take her spot. They installed a handrail to help her get into her house, volunteers show up once a week or so to do yardwork and a city van shows up to drive her around (I assume helping with errands or doctor visits). It's only been like 3 weeks since I called. Pretty impressive.

all very good...maybe you should hand over a small check for their efforts, seeing how it's a relief for you as well :)....good job amigo

785 NelsFree  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 8:27:03am

re: #769 Killgore Trout

It's just insane that regular lizards think I'm intentionally defaming someone as vile as Pat Buchanan.

Instead of defaming, could you defang him?
/h

786 Killgore Trout  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 8:27:35am

re: #777 Sharmuta

Eeeevil! Well, I gotta run out to the hydroponics store to spread more lies. I have plans to do some writing this afternoon so maybe I'll have something for you this weekend.

787 1SG(ret)  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 8:27:37am

re: #779 Killgore Trout
He is gone, and was asked to drop the matter, but you continue to dig. Classy!

788 realwest  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 8:28:01am

re: #770 jcm
Well it's either that or let the Radical Right and Loony Left fight it out amongst themselves, while we adults try to solve the multitude of problems we face.

789 sattv4u2  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 8:28:36am

re: #782 Rancher

It was Iranian students who overthrew the Shaw while under the gun of a very oppressive regime. What's different, why can't it happen again?

Because the Shah had a very tenuous relationship with the military. Some of the generals were on his side, but the rank and file despised him

In this instance, the rank and file of the most powerful arm of the military is clearly on the mullahs side

790 MandyManners  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 8:29:13am

re: #782 Rancher

It was Iranian students who overthrew the Shaw while under the gun of a very oppressive regime. What's different, why can't it happen again?

The Shah did not have total control over the populace as the mullahs have.

791 realwest  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 8:30:25am

re: #772 haakondahl
Well I didn't see the debate and don't know who is debate partner was, and I'm not at all sure I could convince Sal of any deeply held belief of his, but that I couldn't convince Sal doesn't mean that I'm wrong about it, ya know?

792 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 8:30:29am

re: #790 MandyManners

The Shah did not have total control over the populace as the mullahs have.

I was writing the same comment, but, you said it first. Correct. There was a lot of support from the mullahs behind the students. This time, they have no one higher up who is on their side.

793 jcm  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 8:30:30am

re: #774 sattv4u2

RE: IRAN

Once again, for over 3 decades we've been hearing how the youth love western culture and how the academics are fostering 'unrest'.
We used to hear the same thing about the Iraqi people (much more limited, I grant you, but there were always rumblings)

Much like the Iraqis, nothing will change in Iran unless and until an outside power FORCES it to change, and with the current climate in Washington as well as the UN, IT AIN'T HAPPNIN

Iran it's possible without military intervention. The internal struggle can largely be described as Persian v. Islamic. The large youth segement identifies more with the Persian than Islamic.

That's a wedge which can be exploited.

IF ANYONE IN DC HAD ANY FUCKING SENSE AT ALL!

Sorry for yelling. But I love Iran and the people, and it sticks in my craw that that [deleted] Rabbit Bait sold Iran down the tubes and no one in the last 30 years has done anything about the war the Mad Mullahs in Iran have waged on us at the expense of the Iranian people.

794 sattv4u2  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 8:30:36am

re: #787 1SG(ret)

He is gone, and was asked to drop the matter, but you continue to dig. Classy!

Thanks ,,, still here though!

795 albusteve  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 8:31:10am

re: #778 realwest

Hey my friend - "it can happen and it will...roving bands of clandestine killers or thatever"
do you really believe that? I mean (the topics have been all over the board this morning!) do you think roving bands of Neo-Nazi's are gonna go around killing people?

it sounds simplistic, that's just the nature of my posts...roving bands?...I dunno, but it seems reasonable to me that somebody will up the ante sooner or later...I know it sounds dramatic

796 haakondahl  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 8:31:17am

re: #774 sattv4u2

RE: IRAN

Once again, for over 3 decades we've been hearing how the youth love western culture and how the academics are fostering 'unrest'.
We used to hear the same thing about the Iraqi people (much more limited, I grant you, but there were always rumblings)

Much like the Iraqis, nothing will change in Iran unless and until an outside power FORCES it to change, and with the current climate in Washington as well as the UN, IT AIN'T HAPPNIN

The problem is that things change. People in Iran are exactly like us--the sway first one way and then the other, and can be stubborn or capricious. While it's all well and good to say that we should not overestimate the amount of Western values in Iranian society, so should we not underestimate it. Effectively, we cannot realistically estimate it, as estimates of even our own political mood vary in effectiveness.
So it's not as though the Iranian middle-class is solidly in our camp, yet they are not solidly against us either. They are people who have been through a lot of crap, and in turn, dished out a lot of crap. A lot like us indeed.
The key difference to me is that our process basically works, and their process basically does not, so that our nation is capable of a far more "enlightened" set of policies, and while far from perfect, still the best that mankind has to show. But it's not because Iranians are quite for or against us--although their government certainly fits into one of those camps.

797 realwest  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 8:31:43am

re: #773 Killgore Trout
Excellent work on your and their parts, Killgore!

798 MandyManners  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 8:32:31am

re: #792 Walter L. Newton

I was writing the same comment, but, you said it first. Correct. There was a lot of support from the mullahs behind the students. This time, they have no one higher up who is on their side.

The mullahs rule.

799 pingjockey  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 8:32:48am

Mornin' all! From a humid and warm eastern Wa. T-storms galore.
I don't think the army will back the population of Iran in overthrowing the mad mullahs. IIRC, Iran has a young population, majority less than 40 years old. The potential is there for a dynamic society IMO, but with the mullahs in charge, it will remain a damn theocratic mess.

800 MandyManners  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 8:33:27am

Hey, Cato the Elder?

FCBBHO!

Neener.

801 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 8:34:17am

re: #800 MandyManners

Hey, Cato the Elder?

FCBBHO!

Neener.

LOL

802 Sharmuta  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 8:34:42am

There are four constants:

Death
Taxes
Change
Charlatans

803 jcm  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 8:35:23am

re: #790 MandyManners

The Shah did not have total control over the populace as the mullahs have.

The Shah was loosening the reins slowly, he was giving he Parliament more and more power.

The Shah's two major bugaboos, were communists agitators and drugs. There wasn't any give on those two, you got executed then had a fair trial and convicted.

When the unrest started, and I've seen plenty of evidence it was a lot of KGB agitation, the Shah wanted to avoid bloodshed. The the clincher was Rabbit Bait completely pulling the rug out, and not going for a middle of the road option.

804 pingjockey  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 8:35:35am

re: #800 MandyManners
Heh!

805 jcm  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 8:36:29am

re: #799 pingjockey

Mornin' all! From a humid and warm eastern Wa. T-storms galore.
I don't think the army will back the population of Iran in overthrowing the mad mullahs. IIRC, Iran has a young population, majority less than 40 years old. The potential is there for a dynamic society IMO, but with the mullahs in charge, it will remain a damn theocratic mess.

PING!

We were worried about you. We thought you might have been carried away by 50 foot nuclear wasps from Hanford!

806 pingjockey  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 8:37:01am

Note to self: Get new glasses. Thought previous thread said "Chinese Monkey SUB"!

807 albusteve  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 8:37:28am

re: #800 MandyManners

Hey, Cato the Elder?

FCBBHO!

Neener.

neener is not a word, you rube...
it's latin derivative is....therefore....
whatever

808 MandyManners  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 8:38:10am

re: #803 jcm

The Shah was loosening the reins slowly, he was giving he Parliament more and more power.

The Shah's two major bugaboos, were communists agitators and drugs. There wasn't any give on those two, you got executed then had a fair trial and convicted.

When the unrest started, and I've seen plenty of evidence it was a lot of KGB agitation, the Shah wanted to avoid bloodshed. The the clincher was Rabbit Bait completely pulling the rug out, and not going for a middle of the road option.

Golly. I wonder what happened to all those Commie agitators once the mullahs took over.

809 sattv4u2  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 8:38:22am

re: #806 pingjockey

Note to self: Get new glasses. Thought previous thread said "Chinese Monkey SUB"!

The meat is a little gamey, but on one of those fresh baked rolls with lettuce, tomatoe and mayo, it's pretty good for $5.00

810 pingjockey  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 8:38:31am

re: #805 jcm
I swear to God, I thought an article from the Onion had made it into the Wenatchee paper! What a hoot, radioactive wasps! Mwahahaha!

811 MandyManners  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 8:38:40am

re: #807 albusteve

neener is not a word, you rube...
it's latin derivative is....therefore....
whatever

Neener is, too, a word.

812 haakondahl  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 8:39:15am

re: #781 NelsFree

Good Morning all,
Dozens of US cities may have entire neighbourhoods bulldozed as part of drastic "shrink to survive" proposals being considered by the Obama administration to tackle economic decline.

Well why doesn't the leadership of those cities simply declare them failure-free zones, much like the foreclosure moratoria? And why doesn't the federal government simply print money and truck it in there, along with some experts who will threaten and cajole those in the city government into stepping down and being replaced by hand-picked men from Washington?

It's simple, really.

813 jcm  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 8:39:16am

re: #806 pingjockey

Note to self: Get new glasses. Thought previous thread said "Chinese Monkey SUB"!

It turned into that

326 realwest

Uh, don't y'all go giving up you day job there my freind! They didn't EAT the nirth certificate, it was captured by Chinese Communists who took it down into a littoral waters deisel operated submarine, which the monkeys then steered the sub into the sonar array and when the Chinese opened the hatch, the Monkey's retrieved it, only to be shot at long range (with tranquilizer darts, tranquilizer darts by SEAL Snipers on the McCain) while other SEALS stole the Nirth Certificate and gave it to the captain of the USS McCain!
And then his dog ate it.
The end.
814 Deseeded  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 8:39:27am

re: #703 Killgore Trout

"A man doesn't automatically get my respect. He has to get down in the dirt and beg for it." -Jack Handy

:D

815 pingjockey  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 8:39:32am

re: #807 albusteve
Neener is a word, ask any 3rd grader.

816 jcm  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 8:39:50am

re: #808 MandyManners

Golly. I wonder what happened to all those Commie agitators once the mullahs took over.

They got to help for awhile......

Then held up a wall briefly...

817 sattv4u2  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 8:39:51am

re: #808 MandyManners

Golly. I wonder what happened to all those Commie agitators once the mullahs took over.

Short hop across the border to what is now Turkminestan in the old USSR

818 VioletTiger  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 8:39:57am

re: #793 jcm

The Iranians I've known have all identified themselves as Persians.

819 MandyManners  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 8:40:00am

re: #809 sattv4u2

The meat is a little gamey, but on one of those fresh baked rolls with lettuce, tomatoe and mayo, it's pretty good for $5.00

It goes well with horse radish.

820 swamprat  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 8:40:21am

re: #800 MandyManners

Hey, Cato the Elder?

FCBBHO!

Neener.

I dinged you up because I despise you!

821 pingjockey  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 8:40:41am

re: #813 jcm
Bwahahaha!

822 MandyManners  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 8:41:16am

NEENER NEENER NEENER NEENER NEENER NEENER NEENER NEENER
NEENER NEENER NEENER NEENER NEENER NEENER NEENER NEENER
NEENER NEENER NEENER NEENER NEENER NEENER NEENER NEENER
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NEENER NEENER NEENER NEENER NEENER NEENER NEENER NEENER

823 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 8:41:18am

re: #807 albusteve

neener is not a word, you rube...
it's latin derivative is....therefore....
whatever

The word was used in the Roman Senate all the time, and once at a bawdy little roadhouse on the Via Delarosa.

824 haakondahl  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 8:41:34am

re: #809 sattv4u2

The meat is a little gamey, but on one of those fresh baked rolls with lettuce, tomatoe and mayo, it's pretty good for $5.00

I saw the same thing, but wondered if it was nuclear-powered or diesel-electric.

825 albusteve  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 8:41:36am

re: #811 MandyManners

Neener is, too, a word.

nice punctuation!

826 aboo-Hoo-Hoo  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 8:41:42am

re: #802 Sharmuta

There are four constants:

Death
Taxes
Change
Charlatans

Particularly in the current setting...DON'T FORGET THE effin UNICORNS.

827 Deseeded  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 8:41:55am

re: #822 MandyManners

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NEENER NEENER NEENER NEENER NEENER NEENER NEENER NEENER
NEENER NEENER NEENER NEENER NEENER NEENER NEENER NEENER

Oh man, I was waiting for this! Hahaha

828 NelsFree  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 8:42:17am

re: #806 pingjockey

Note to self: Get new glasses. Thought previous thread said "Chinese Monkey SUB"!

See my #450 on that thread. Heh.

829 MandyManners  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 8:42:21am

re: #820 swamprat

I dinged you up because I despise you!

I despise you, too!

830 realwest  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 8:42:41am

re: #782 Rancher
Well I apologize if I seemed unduly pessimistic, but please remember that the Shah of Iran was - in his own way - every bit as nutty as Ahmadinnerjacket. And he was sick - dying, actually, when Ayatollah Khomeini was allowed back into the country. I think that Iran CAN shake off the shackles of the Mullah's, but it won't happen from outside Iran and it ain't gonna happen inside Iran until there is some sort of cataclysmic event in the country. Iran is a virtually Prison with all dissenters or would be dissenters from the Mullocracy in hard "lock down." Had the US under Carter been more, ah, forthright in demanding and obtaining the release of our civilians held hostage after the "students" overran our embassy in 1979, perhaps things would be different. But the younger Iranians haven't forgotten that it was in fact the Mullahs who stuck it to the Great Satan and I fear have not the ability or means to militarily throw off their shackles and no reason AT ALL to believe they'd get any help from the U.S.

831 Sharmuta  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 8:42:46am

re: #781 NelsFree

I wonder how reducing the amount of taxable land will help cities.

832 sattv4u2  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 8:42:52am

re: #824 haakondahl

I saw the same thing, but wondered if it was nuclear-powered or diesel-electric.

oh ,, THAT kind of SUB. I must be getting hungry. All I saw was the Subway ad going through my head, with their 5 dollar foot longs!

833 MandyManners  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 8:43:09am

re: #825 albusteve

nice punctuation!

That's what all the boys say.

834 Deseeded  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 8:43:12am

re: #706 Lincolntf

Link, you're on a rampage this morning, what's with the spite? (I'm late to the party.)

835 jcm  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 8:43:28am

re: #818 VioletTiger

The Iranians I've known have all identified themselves as Persians.

Many do, I know some that insist on Iranian. They're bound and determined to change the stereotype.

If the Mad Mullahs ever get their necktie party, I'd bet we'd see he country's name change to the Persian Republic, or something like that. The name Iran has some interesting ties to the 3rd Reich, I'll see if I can turn up the links.

836 Jewels (AKA Julian)  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 8:43:31am

re: #701 haakondahl

YEs. but that's a buggered theory, so I ignore it :)

837 jcm  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 8:43:59am

re: #822 MandyManners

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NEENER '12!

838 MandyManners  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 8:44:19am

re: #827 Deseeded

Oh man, I was waiting for this! Hahaha

Mary Fucking Sunshine, at your service.

839 [deleted]  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 8:44:23am
840 albusteve  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 8:44:33am

re: #833 MandyManners

That's what all the boys say.

boys? BOYS?...what's wrong with MEN?

841 Deseeded  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 8:44:53am

re: #837 jcm

I want to see bumper stickers that read "Neener/Neener '12"

842 swamprat  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 8:45:20am

re: #827 Deseeded

Thank you for the advice,(long ago) about freezing tofu to get it to marinate better. Works.

843 MandyManners  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 8:45:26am

re: #835 jcm

Many do, I know some that insist on Iranian. They're bound and determined to change the stereotype.

If the Mad Mullahs ever get their necktie party, I'd bet we'd see he country's name change to the Persian Republic, or something like that. The name Iran has some interesting ties to the 3rd Reich, I'll see if I can turn up the links.

Derivation of "Aryan"?

844 Deseeded  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 8:45:36am

re: #838 MandyManners

Mary Fucking Sunshine, at your service.

Well, give me a couple pieces of burnt wheat bread with too much butter and 12 pieces of bacon!

845 pingjockey  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 8:45:41am

re: #835 jcm
What? Was the Shahs' father a Nazi?

846 jcm  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 8:45:48am

re: #824 haakondahl

I saw the same thing, but wondered if it was nuclear-powered or diesel-electric.

Have to be a diesel to get close enough to snag the array. Nucs always have pumps and power plants going, and ChiCom nuke boats are noisy. Kilo class boats, the ChiComs bought 10 and copied more, are quiet as a thief submerged.

847 [deleted]  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 8:45:57am
848 razorbacker  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 8:46:14am

re: #781 NelsFree

And? So what.

From my childhood 'til now Tichnor, Nady, Grady, Moscow, Rhower, Pendleton, Weber, Humphrey, Slovak, and about a hundred more small communities in the Delta have disappeared. Now no more than wide spots by the road with foundation blocks showing where homes and businesses used to be.

Jobs dried up, people left.

It is only a matter of degree to speak of Detroit, Memphis, Philadelphia, etc.

849 sattv4u2  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 8:46:18am

re: #831 Sharmuta

I wonder how reducing the amount of taxable land will help cities.

There is little to zero "tax revenue" derived from empty and abandoned city or bank owend properties. Turn that land over to a developer to make upscale condos IN the city (highly sought after just before the real estate crach) and those lands now become prpoerty tax cash cows.

850 NelsFree  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 8:46:41am

re: #813 jcm

The original USS JOHN S. McCAIN:
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

851 realwest  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 8:47:02am

re: #802 Sharmuta I'm afraid I have to add to your list:
Death
Taxes
Change
Charlatans
Decent People Trying to help others.

852 jcm  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 8:47:07am

re: #843 MandyManners

Derivation of "Aryan"?

DING!

They were trying strengthen ties at the time.

853 BlueCanuck  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 8:47:15am

re: #843 MandyManners

Derivation of "Aryan"?

I believe so. Persians are from original Aryan stock, the real mccoy, not the Hitler fantasy. It is also comes from the name of the Aryan plateau a geological feature in Iran.

854 Sharmuta  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 8:47:24am

re: #849 sattv4u2

Then the developers can bulldoze it, if that's what they want.

855 Deseeded  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 8:47:39am

re: #842 swamprat

No problemo! A woman I work with told me about that a couple years ago and I was shocked how much easier it was to marinade.

856 Jewels (AKA Julian)  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 8:47:48am

re: #843 MandyManners

The Original Aryans came from the Indian subcontinent area, which leads to all sorts of "?" when reading Hitlers gibberish

857 MandyManners  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 8:47:57am

Petey has escaped again. bbiab

858 albusteve  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 8:48:06am

re: #830 realwest

Well I apologize if I seemed unduly pessimistic, but please remember that the Shah of Iran was - in his own way - every bit as nutty as Ahmadinnerjacket. And he was sick - dying, actually, when Ayatollah Khomeini was allowed back into the country. I think that Iran CAN shake off

859 pingjockey  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 8:48:14am

re: #846 jcm
The Iranians have 4, IIRC. However running a D/E boat is very...um, technically challenging!

860 jcm  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 8:50:37am

re: #859 pingjockey

The Iranians have 4, IIRC. However running a D/E boat is very...um, technically challenging!

Once they get over the whole "pig boat" thing shouldn't be too hard.

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861 albusteve  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 8:51:00am

re: #858 albusteve

bad foo

862 NelsFree  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 8:51:16am

re: #831 Sharmuta

I wonder how reducing the amount of taxable land will help cities.

From what I read, the land most likely will come under government control. The remaining residents may see a tax increase to cover the expense. Progressive!
The article also stated that city services would be eliminated to the cleared areas. No police needed for a hayfield, no water/sewer, electrical, so reduced infrastructure cost.

863 sattv4u2  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 8:51:49am

re: #854 Sharmuta

Then the developers can bulldoze it, if that's what they want.

To play devils advocate, why should they if they know that
the gov't is ready willing and able too?
I was interested in a property near where I live. There was a house on it that was literally falling down. The owner wanted to sell me the property "as is". I balked. 10 months later he knocked down the house (I'm not sure if he was ordered to by the board of health or not, but thats possible) I went back to him with the same offer I made before. he accepted. Saved me the cost of knocking the house down, carting away the rubble and paying for the disposal

864 Deseeded  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 8:52:13am

re: #751 realwest

Well first of all Anti-Semitism isn't racial bigotry it's religious bigotry.

OTOH, It's apparent at least to me that there is a lot of racism -black vs white on the part of some notable figures today, e.g., "Rev." Jeremiah Wright and Obama getting something over 95% of the Black American vote.
It's a problem with painting with such a broad brush, IMO.

I wish that people could understand the difference between race and religion. It has been blurred so much by the left that if I claimed I was Jedi, and there were enough people also claiming it, they'd put it on the next f*cking census as Race.

865 realwest  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 8:52:25am

re: #805 jcm

PING!

We were worried about you. We thought you might have been carried away by 50 foot nuclear wasps from Hanford!


ROTFLMAO!

866 jcm  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 8:53:00am

re: #845 pingjockey

What? Was the Shahs' father a Nazi?

Pro-Nazi.

Ties to Hitler led to plots against British and Jews

Iran's axis with the Third Reich began during the prewar years, when it welcomed Nazi Gestapo agents and other operatives to Tehran, allowing them to use the city as a base for Middle East agitation against the British and the region's Jews.
867 NelsFree  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 8:53:18am

re: #848 razorbacker
You left out, "economies of scale", and a vague suggestion of a "neener".
/h

868 pingjockey  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 8:53:22am

re: #860 jcm
Heh! The Turks damn near drowned a whole crew off of San Diego back in the late 70s. They had been given one of our retired diesel boats and had left a hatch open so "Allah" would be able to go in the boat with them!

869 reine.de.tout  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 8:54:28am

re: #773 Killgore Trout

I got in touch with a gay a lesbian charity for her a few weeks ago. It's surprising how fast they got to work. They designated the spot in front of her house a handicapped parking space so nobody can take her spot. They installed a handrail to help her get into her house, volunteers show up once a week or so to do yardwork and a city van shows up to drive her around (I assume helping with errands or doctor visits). It's only been like 3 weeks since I called. Pretty impressive.

Also it's impressive that you bothered to make that call.

870 littleoldlady  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 8:55:28am

re: #848 razorbacker

It is only a matter of degree to speak of Detroit, Memphis, Philadelphia, etc.

Question about this idea...

Chances are - at least in Philadelphia, which I am most familiar with - the properties that are going to be "returned to nature" are not government owned but private property.

/y'all remember private property, yes?
//from before The Obama Era...

That's a heck of a lot of eminent domain dollars, isn't it? So these cities that are already in financial distress are going to PAY for the properties, PAY for the destruction/transformation of the properties, and turn them into perpetual non-taxable entities?

This makes sense?

871 jcm  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 8:55:46am

re: #868 pingjockey

Heh! The Turks damn near drowned a whole crew off of San Diego back in the late 70s. They had been given one of our retired diesel boats and had left a hatch open so "Allah" would be able to go in the boat with them!

We won't mention the USS Guitarro.....

*okay the Navy didn't do it...*

872 realwest  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 8:56:06am

re: #822 MandyManners
Sigh. Well, I guess I'll have to withdraw my comment in #788 above.
Damn!
/

873 NelsFree  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 8:56:07am

re: #863 sattv4u2

Well, Sat, in your case the Property Owner paid out of his own pocket to do what he wanted. In the case of the article, the Government pays to demolish. That comes out of everyone's pocket, as taxes.

874 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 8:56:18am

re: #862 NelsFree

From what I read, the land most likely will come under government control. The remaining residents may see a tax increase to cover the expense. Progressive!
The article also stated that city services would be eliminated to the cleared areas. No police needed for a hayfield, no water/sewer, electrical, so reduced infrastructure cost.

This sounds so much like "central planning," similar to parts of the Soviet Union method of government.

Plus, the fact that the land sudden;y becomes part of the federal government, this really stinks.

But, it seem par for the course in Obama's move to a soft socialism.

875 pingjockey  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 8:56:32am

re: #865 realwest
Heh. Have to give y'all geography lessons! I'm damn near in the center of the state and Hanford is south! All this radioactivity they're trying to clean up is from one of the WWII plutonium bomb reactors. So you had bomb making going on up into the 60s, IIRC. Plutonium contamination is worse than power plant contamination. It is a damn big mess.

876 Stuart Leviton  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 8:57:45am

Comment on why the Iranian elections might be fraudulent:

According to the binomial theorem, if a fair coin is flipped a large number of times, the number of heads will be between 40 and 60 percent (approximately).

What this means is that if the Iranian presidential elections are between two 'good' candidates, and that the elections are not rigged, then we can expect the winner to have at most 60% of the popular vote.

Three landslide examples from the American elections are Lyndon Johnson's landslide victory over Barry Goldwater. Johnson garnered 61.1% while Goldwater received only 38.5%. Or when Ronald Wilson Reagan trounced James Earl Carter in 1980, Carter got trounced having earned only 41% of the vote (Reagan got 50.7%). A third contest, between Reagan and Mondale, the numbers were 58.8% to 40.6%. Keep these numbers in mind when you hear about Ahmadinejad receiving anything greater than 60% of the vote. While it is possible that Ahmadinejad did garner 66% of the popular vote, the number is suspect.

For a final example: Most baseball teams play between .400 and .600 baseball. Those of you who are Los Angeles Dodgers fans however know that you have an outstanding team this year. And those of you who are Washington Nationals fans - who are playing at around .250 - please, take the condolences of this lifelong Chicago Cubs fan.

877 Sharmuta  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 8:57:50am

I'm too lazy to look up-thread- realwest, I hope I said thank you, but if I didn't- thank you.

878 VioletTiger  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 8:57:53am

re: #845 pingjockey


Back when I just started college, I was in a school that had a sizable population of Iranians. There were pro-shah and anti-shah students. I was friends with the pro-shah ones. The anti-shah students would protest the shah. At first they walked in a circle with signs with bags over their heads chanting 'the shah is a fascist butcher, down with the shah'. They said the shah had spies there who would hurt them or their families. Then they ditched the bags and started to enjoy their American-protected freedom to protest. Of course, none of us knew anything about the shah, and I still don't know for sure if he was good or bad. The American students did join in, of course, and staged a food fight one night to protest the shah. It seemed funny at the time, but then came the hostage situation and things ceased to be humorous.

879 jcm  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 8:58:21am

re: #875 pingjockey

Heh. Have to give y'all geography lessons! I'm damn near in the center of the state and Hanford is south! All this radioactivity they're trying to clean up is from one of the WWII plutonium bomb reactors. So you had bomb making going on up into the 60s, IIRC. Plutonium contamination is worse than power plant contamination. It is a damn big mess.

Don't listen to him...

He's a downwinder, all those years breathing the interesting stuff blowing in from Hanford has affected him.....

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880 sattv4u2  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 8:58:49am

re: #873 NelsFree

Well, Sat, in your case the Property Owner paid out of his own pocket to do what he wanted. In the case of the article, the Government pays to demolish. That comes out of everyone's pocket, as taxes.

I understand that, but the question posed was that if the private developer wanted the property, why shouldn't they pay to demolish it. I stated why would they if the gov;'t was going too. Sorry, but the developer WILL if he has too, but if he doesn;'t ,,,,,,

881 pingjockey  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 8:59:10am

re: #871 jcm
OOPS!

882 Deseeded  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 8:59:16am

I wish there was a way to directly reply/quote from LGF Spy....

883 jcm  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 8:59:27am

re: #876 Stuart Leviton

No randomness at all.

The Mad Mullahs won't relinquish power. The president is their handpicked stooge.

End of Story.

884 jcm  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 8:59:52am

re: #881 pingjockey

OOPS!

What's a little water?

;-)

885 jmctigret  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 9:00:00am

“If you put the federal government in charge of the Sahara Desert, in five years there’d be a shortage of sand.”

- -Nobel prize-winning economist Milton Friedman (1912-2006)

886 VioletTiger  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 9:00:29am

re: #876 Stuart Leviton

It seems very unlikely that in a 4-way race someone would get that big of a percentage. I think they gave Dinnerjacket all of the 2 lesser candidates votes to avoid a run-off. It just doesn't add up.

887 razorbacker  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 9:00:44am

re: #867 NelsFree

You left out, "economies of scale", and a vague suggestion of a "neener".
/h

You will very seldom see me resort to 'neener' or any other childhood taunt.

I will, however, sometimes chuck out a 'economy of scale' or 'what goes around comes around'.

It is demonstratively difficult to hold onto a city once the jobs leave. For some reason, the whole 'well, we're not worried, we'll just sell each other hamburgers and social services' crowd simply do not convince in the long run. It may be a long decline, and it may be a slow decline, but the end result is death.

888 NelsFree  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 9:01:06am

re: #874 Walter L. Newton
Walter! I miss your bowler!

889 pingjockey  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 9:01:37am

re: #878 VioletTiger
I was in Sonar school in 1977 with some Iranian sailors. They were going to get 4 ships built to order for the Shah. They never got those ships and I wonder what happened to those guys.

890 MandyManners  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 9:01:57am

re: #887 razorbacker

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891 Stuart Leviton  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 9:01:58am

re: #883 jcm

No randomness at all.

The Mad Mullahs won't relinquish power. The president is their handpicked stooge.

End of Story.

I agree with you. I just wanted to provide the statistical reasoning for fellow lizards as to why the electoral numbers are suspect.

892 VioletTiger  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 9:02:18am
893 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 9:02:49am

re: #888 NelsFree

Walter! I miss your bowler!

Thanks. But I decided that picture really didn't wasn't me anymore, since it's 8 years old, a character picture of me from a show, hair and beard all dyed, and I was 200 pounds bigger than. So, I thought it was time for something more current.

894 MandyManners  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 9:03:16am

re: #888 NelsFree

Walter! I miss your bowler!

Bring back the bowler!

895 Kronocide  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 9:03:23am

Has the UN completed it's draft Resolution on The Great Monkey Snub yet?

896 MandyManners  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 9:03:46am

re: #893 Walter L. Newton

Thanks. But I decided that picture really didn't wasn't me anymore, since it's 8 years old, a character picture of me from a show, hair and beard all dyed, and I was 200 pounds bigger than. So, I thought it was time for something more current.

Got one with a hat?

897 wrenchwench  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 9:03:48am

Need to wake up.

898 razorbacker  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 9:03:57am

re: #870 littleoldlady

Question about this idea...

Chances are - at least in Philadelphia, which I am most familiar with - the properties that are going to be "returned to nature" are not government owned but private property.

/y'all remember private property, yes?
//from before The Obama Era...

That's a heck of a lot of eminent domain dollars, isn't it? So these cities that are already in financial distress are going to PAY for the properties, PAY for the destruction/transformation of the properties, and turn them into perpetual non-taxable entities?

This makes sense?

Respectfully, let me mention that property is worth exactly what someone else is willing to pay for it. Just as property in Nady is now worth zip, so property in these larger cities is worth zip, if no one is willing to pay zip+one for it.

It doesn't matter if it is public or private. That property in those small towns was privately owned, too.

899 NelsFree  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 9:04:06am

re: #880 sattv4u2

I am in favor of less government at all levels, resulting in lower taxes, resulting in more freedom of choice. I shall not ask the government to do for me what I can do for myself.

900 VioletTiger  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 9:04:45am

re: #889 pingjockey

I was in Sonar school in 1977 with some Iranian sailors. They were going to get 4 ships built to order for the Shah. They never got those ships and I wonder what happened to those guys.

If they were pro-shah I hope they didn't go back to Iran. I didn't appreciate the situation back then.

901 pingjockey  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 9:04:45am

BBIAB

902 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 9:04:55am

re: #896 MandyManners

Got one with a hat?

No. I guess I can take one.

903 realwest  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 9:04:59am

re: #875 pingjockey
Well ok, then, next time (and you KNOW there will be a next time) something possibly terrible happens in Washington State, I'll try to find map of the State before worrying about you or jcm and warning you!
Now where the hell did I put that map...............!

904 jcm  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 9:05:01am

re: #893 Walter L. Newton

Thanks. But I decided that picture really didn't wasn't me anymore, since it's 8 years old, a character picture of me from a show, hair and beard all dyed, and I was 200 pounds bigger than. So, I thought it was time for something more current.

A shadow of your former self. 200lbs! I am impressed!

905 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 9:05:45am

Five 'll get whatever-you-want that the Ashura Brigades (specially-trained anti-riot police, the "SS" of the Baseej) are out in Tehran's streets.

906 MandyManners  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 9:05:46am

re: #895 BigPapa

Has the UN completed it's draft Resolution on The Great Monkey Snub yet?

Snub the monkey.


907 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 9:05:55am

re: #904 jcm

A shadow of your former self. 200lbs! I am impressed!

It was easy, I stopped drinking booze.

908 albusteve  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 9:06:18am

re: #902 Walter L. Newton

No. I guess I can take one.

loan you my Kangol...would look good on you

909 NelsFree  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 9:06:22am

re: #887 razorbacker

You may have missed my /humor tag. Heh.

910 [deleted]  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 9:06:27am
911 Stuart Leviton  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 9:06:37am

If Adolph Hitler ran in a fair presidential election again, he would gain at least 40% of the vote. That is according to the binomial theorem. The thought of Hitler gaining 40% of the vote in an American contest has always bothered me.

912 realwest  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 9:06:39am

re: #877 Sharmuta
Ah, I believe you did, Shar, but you're welcome either or both times!

913 MandyManners  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 9:06:42am

re: #902 Walter L. Newton

I like hats.

914 Deseeded  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 9:07:08am

re: #907 Walter L. Newton

It was easy, I stopped drinking booze.

Amazing what a couple less drinks will do. I went from 195 to 173 this year so far. However, I still enjoy the vodka/club soda with a little lemon. :D

915 KenJen  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 9:07:26am

re: #876 Stuart Leviton

Comment on why the Iranian elections might be fraudulent:

According to the binomial theorem, if a fair coin is flipped a large number of times, the number of heads will be between 40 and 60 percent (approximately).

What this means is that if the Iranian presidential elections are between two 'good' candidates, and that the elections are not rigged, then we can expect the winner to have at most 60% of the popular vote.

Three landslide examples from the American elections are Lyndon Johnson's landslide victory over Barry Goldwater. Johnson garnered 61.1% while Goldwater received only 38.5%. Or when Ronald Wilson Reagan trounced James Earl Carter in 1980, Carter got trounced having earned only 41% of the vote (Reagan got 50.7%). A third contest, between Reagan and Mondale, the numbers were 58.8% to 40.6%. Keep these numbers in mind when you hear about Ahmadinejad receiving anything greater than 60% of the vote. While it is possible that Ahmadinejad did garner 66% of the popular vote, the number is suspect.

For a final example: Most baseball teams play between .400 and .600 baseball. Those of you who are Los Angeles Dodgers fans however know that you have an outstanding team this year. And those of you who are Washington Nationals fans - who are playing at around .250 - please, take the condolences of this lifelong Chicago Cubs fan.

There is your monkey wrench.

916 [deleted]  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 9:07:32am
917 MandyManners  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 9:08:06am

re: #910 taxfreekiller

To violate the 4th Amendment on the basis of an anonymous call?!

918 KenJen  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 9:08:32am

re: #907 Walter L. Newton

It was easy, I stopped drinking booze.

Hi Walter. Look'in good.

919 [deleted]  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 9:08:41am
920 Stuart Leviton  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 9:09:08am

re: #915 KenJen

I agree with you. Now if only someone can help the Washington Nationals.

921 [deleted]  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 9:09:21am
922 Digital Display  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 9:10:07am

re: #913 MandyManners

I like hats.

Good morning good looking!
At work we have theme days.Yesterday it was haiwaiin shirt day...ok I've got lots of those. We have wear your favorite hat day...I have never worn a hat.
I don't wear them..
Walter would fit right in....LOL

923 razorbacker  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 9:11:23am

re: #909 NelsFree

You may have missed my /humor tag. Heh.

Naw, I caught it. My point was that I don't use a lot of motherfucking profanity, nor resort to childish taunts even when dealing with a candy-assed fag pussy.

Note that I am not speaking in your direction.

I know how; I simply find it counter-productive.

924 Sharmuta  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 9:11:29am

Clashes erupt in Iran over disputed election

Supporters of the main election challenger to Mahmoud Ahmadinejad clashed with police and set up barricades of burning tires Saturday as authorities claimed the hard-line president was re-elected in a landslide. The rival candidate said the vote was tainted by widespread fraud and his followers responded with the most serious unrest in the capital in a decade.

Several hundred demonstrators — many wearing the trademark green colors of pro-reform candidate Mir Hossein Mousavi's campaign — chanted "the government lied to the people" and gathered near the Interior Ministry as the final count from Friday's presidential election was announced. It gave 62.6 percent of the vote to Ahmadinejad and 33.75 to Mousavi — a former prime minister who has become the hero of a youth-driven movement seeking greater liberties and a gentler face for Iran abroad.

Mousavi rejected the result as rigged and urged his supporters to resist a government of "lies and dictatorship."

925 NelsFree  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 9:11:37am

re: #911 Stuart Leviton

binomial: Consisting of or relating to two names or terms.
Word!

926 Rancher  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 9:12:19am

I think what will finally bring about change in Iran is a change in the Guards support and I believe that can happen if economic forces continue to stress the populace. High oil prices has given this regime longer legs than it deserves, the youth are a force, and a cataclysmic event may be coming soon from Israel. If the election fraud has started a crack in the Mullahs power then an attack from Israel followed by a military response by Iran in Gaza and Lebanon will add further pressure. Hezbollah and Hamas aren't cheap. The populace, including the military, may initially get behind the regime when attacked by an outside force but I don't think it will be sustained, especially if the oil income is disrupted.

927 realwest  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 9:12:29am

re: #916 Iron Fist

Terrorist supporters from the get-go. Weren't the Hashashim from Iran, too? A long history of terror support. They've been supporting terrorists since before the Democrats decided to support them.


Now that's what I'd call hyperbole!

928 irongrampa  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 9:13:14am

Good morning from the Adirondacks--beautiful sunny day, temps in the mid 70's. Love it.

Project Ford is done, you can barely hear the engine run, and the overheating problem has vanished. A thgorough test drive (couple days) and my friend can enjoy his vehicle.

929 [deleted]  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 9:13:17am
930 littleoldlady  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 9:13:40am

re: #898 razorbacker

razorbacker! :-)

Well, yeah...I would expect "respectfully"! ;-)

Still trying to figure out how this would work, though. Again, using Philadelphia as an example, while there are plenty of abandoned and distressed homes, they tend to be interspersed among viable houses that people own and live in, rather than entire blocks or neighborhoods. To make this idea work they'd have to put people out of their homes. It won't be cheap.

And then the upshot will be the city gets to fire police, firemen and trash collectors?

Hmmm...I'm going to sell tickets for this act!

931 Digital Display  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 9:14:00am

re: #911 Stuart Leviton

If Adolph Hitler ran in a fair presidential election again, he would gain at least 40% of the vote. That is according to the binomial theorem. The thought of Hitler gaining 40% of the vote in an American contest has always bothered me.

Oh for Pete's sake....If that isn't over the top i don't know what is....

932 Spare O'Lake  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 9:14:35am

The Islamic Republic of Iran is an existential threat to the existence of the State of Israel.
The people of Iran are responsible for the longstanding existence of their anti-Western, anti-American, anti-Semitic, whacko right-wing religious extremist regime. For these many years since the islamic revolution, there has been no substantial opposition, and certainly no armed resistance.
Millions of pro-Western Iranians live in exile, but they are not representative of the political views of the domestic Iranian population.
The sooner we stop deluding ourselves that most Iranians in Iran are wonderful people secretly opposed to the shariah regime, the better.
Iran must be stopped.

933 Digital Display  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 9:15:08am

re: #928 irongrampa

Good morning from the Adirondacks--beautiful sunny day, temps in the mid 70's. Love it.

Project Ford is done, you can barely hear the engine run, and the overheating problem has vanished. A thgorough test drive (couple days) and my friend can enjoy his vehicle.

I love Lake George...Spent a week there once..how far away are youo from there?

934 realwest  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 9:15:16am

re: #914 Deseeded
Um, excuse me, but if you're actually counting the number of drinks you have each year, y'all need to seriously think about stopping altogether. And yes, as a recovering alcoholic (6+ years sober) I know it's hard to do, but y'all really ought to consider it.

935 NelsFree  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 9:15:17am

re: #923 razorbacker

Naw, I caught it. My point was that I don't use a lot of motherfucking profanity, nor resort to childish taunts even when dealing with a candy-assed fag pussy.

Note that I am not speaking in your direction.

I know how; I simply find it counter-productive.

You really need a hug.
I call group hug on Razorbacker!
*hug*
Who loves ya, baby?

936 [deleted]  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 9:15:29am
937 MandyManners  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 9:15:54am

re: #923 razorbacker

Whatcha' gonna' create today?

938 jcm  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 9:16:07am

re: #910 taxfreekiller

Texas lgf posters.

Call Gov. Perry asap, or e-mail, or fax or go where he is and plead with him to veto Senate Bill 1440 with its current Democrat party amendments.

Important:
1. Allows one anonymous call the Texas Child Protective Services to allow them to send Child Protective and or other law enforcement

WITHOUT A WARRANT

to bust your front door down and obtain "evidence" of any alleged child endangerment.
1. without probable cause
2. one anonymous call
They do intend to destroy the Constitution and will use your own children to do so, evil to the commie core.

[Link: www.texasonline.gov...]

WA is already like that.

DSHS (Dept. Social & Health Services) and it's divisions CPS (Child Protective Services) and CWS (Child Welfare Services) are seriously broken and out of control.

Investigators: Attorney ignores slew of experts in Poca's case

The KING 5 Investigators are exposing more problems in the case of "Poca," the 4-year-old child from Snohomish County who was abruptly taken from her foster parents more than a month ago. That was the only stable home the child had ever known.

This is just the latest in a long history of misconduct, malfeasance, and neglect.

939 [deleted]  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 9:16:14am
940 lincolntf  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 9:16:23am

Holy hell it's hot outside. Just mowed the front lawn and I feel like I ran a freakin' marathon. I think I'm actually too spent to even get in the pool.

941 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 9:16:54am

re: #911 Stuart Leviton

If Adolph Hitler ran in a fair presidential election again, he would gain at least 40% of the vote. That is according to the binomial theorem. The thought of Hitler gaining 40% of the vote in an American contest has always bothered me.

Well, thank goodness the "binomial theorem" is only a theorem, and not statistical fact, or else we'd all be in trouble.

Point is, there is no way you can slot political elections into some sort of math like you are trying.

Bad example.

942 realwest  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 9:17:05am

re: #921 taxfreekiller
Good morning my friend! Um, could y'all use the "reply" button instead of typing in comment numbers? Makes it easier to follow your drift.

943 wrenchwench  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 9:17:11am

re: #892 VioletTiger

Cute-Based Crime

I bookmarked that site. How I never saw it before today, I just don't know....

944 [deleted]  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 9:17:27am
945 irongrampa  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 9:17:36am

re: #933 HoosierHoops

About 15 minutes. What a tremendously gorgeous area. Only downside is the insect life this time of year.
I;ll match our mosquitos against anyone's--they make up in ferocity what they may lack in size.

946 Sharmuta  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 9:17:44am

re: #924 Sharmuta

Clashes erupt in Iran over disputed election

"Many Iranians went to the people because they wanted to bring change," said Mousavi supporter Nasser Amiri, a hospital clerk in Tehran. "Almost everybody I know voted for Mousavi but Ahmadinejad is being declared the winner. The government announcement is nothing but widespread fraud. It is very, very disappointing. I'll never ever again vote in Iran."

Sad.

947 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 9:18:24am

re: #914 Deseeded

Amazing what a couple less drinks will do. I went from 195 to 173 this year so far. However, I still enjoy the vodka/club soda with a little lemon. :D

I was not drinking a couple of drink. My average evening intake was a six pack of Mickeys and one or two pints of southern. That's a lot of empty calories.

948 Digital Display  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 9:18:25am

re: #940 lincolntf

Holy hell it's hot outside. Just mowed the front lawn and I feel like I ran a freakin' marathon. I think I'm actually too spent to even get in the pool.

*pushes Lincoln into the pool*
How do you like me now?
/morning

949 realwest  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 9:18:33am

re: #922 HoosierHoops
Hey hiya Hoops! I thought y'all were on vacation?! That's the message I got when I sent you a second e-mail yesterday!
How are ya?

950 jcm  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 9:18:38am

re: #916 Iron Fist

Terrorist supporters from the get-go. Weren't the Hashashim from Iran, too? A long history of terror support. They've been supporting terrorists since before the Democrats decided to support them.

Persian yes. The modern export of terror is linked more to Islam. Reza Pahlavi knew that the Sovs were his biggest threat so kept the mullahs from exporting anything which would cause problems.

951 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 9:19:37am

BBIAM (doing laundry)

952 pingjockey  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 9:19:58am

re: #938 jcm
Those 3 depts. are run by radical libs, with lotsa unworkable theories and halfassed, half baked liberal ideas. I was in Florida 20 years ago and their dshs did the same thing. The step father drowned the little girl in a toilet. NO ONE from dshs was ever held accountable. Goddamn them.

953 haakondahl  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 9:20:10am

re: #846 jcm

Have to be a diesel to get close enough to snag the array. Nucs always have pumps and power plants going, and ChiCom nuke boats are noisy. Kilo class boats, the ChiComs bought 10 and copied more, are quiet as a thief submerged.


Yes, yes, yes, but what about the monkeys?

954 NelsFree  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 9:20:14am

re: #940 lincolntf

Holy hell it's hot outside. Just mowed the front lawn and I feel like I ran a freakin' marathon. I think I'm actually too spent to even get in the pool.


We'll get in the pool for you!
*splash!*
/hey, toss me the ring!

955 BlueCanuck  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 9:20:19am

re: #936 Iron Fist

A crutch, as in the type used to beat in the small minded people who won't get anything else. :)

/big words confuse them.

956 vxbush  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 9:20:32am

re: #911 Stuart Leviton

If Adolph Hitler ran in a fair presidential election again, he would gain at least 40% of the vote. That is according to the binomial theorem. The thought of Hitler gaining 40% of the vote in an American contest has always bothered me.

As a mathematician, I can tell you that you are dead wrong. The binomial theorem predicts no such thing.

Get your math straight.

957 Digital Display  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 9:20:43am

re: #949 realwest

Hey hiya Hoops! I thought y'all were on vacation?! That's the message I got when I sent you a second e-mail yesterday!
How are ya?

Yup...I'm on vacation..We fly out monday morning to the lake...
How's it Real?

958 razorbacker  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 9:21:18am

re: #930 littleoldlady

Ma'am, I don't argue your points. But, if you'll think it through you'll come to the discovery that those lone holdouts will eventually disappear, too.

Most people, and Gaia help me I don't know why, don't like living in isolation. Those city services will die, just as the cities have.

Memory and human stubborness are powerful things.

They'll keep New Orleans from being abandoned, even though it is below sea level and is going to flood again, eventually.

But human history is full of mighty cities of the past, now so long gone that no-one can point to their location.

959 wrenchwench  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 9:21:54am

You just never know who is going to reek of patchouli these days. Just had a woman in here, in her late 60's, I'd guess, not looking like a hippy at all. Short hair, well-groomed, but I could not breathe in her presence. And I turned on the fan. Now I'm goiong to go burn some piñon incense.

960 realwest  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 9:22:03am

re: #930 littleoldlady
Hi there {littleoldlady} - hope you're doing well today - or as well as can be expected.
And either it's MUCH LATER than I thought or you're up MUCH EARLIER than usual! LOL!

961 MandyManners  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 9:22:14am

re: #938 jcm

Desmond's a monster.

962 Gretchen G.Tiger  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 9:22:16am

Good Morning Lizards! It's raining in the Very Far Western Suburbs of Chicagoland right now.

Not on for long. If you don't hear from me again, have a great day.

For now, How are you-all and what are we talking about?

963 NelsFree  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 9:22:35am

/wipes off with towel

Thanks, I needed that. Guess now I'll...go mow the lawn!
Bye, all.

964 realwest  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 9:23:03am

re: #931 HoosierHoops

Oh for Pete's sake....If that isn't over the top i don't know what is....


Go significantly further upthread and you'll see what is!

965 BlueCanuck  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 9:23:20am

re: #930 littleoldlady

Good morning oh bearer of fruit cup goodness. What are you doing still online at this time of the day. ;)

966 Spare O'Lake  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 9:23:31am

re: #924 Sharmuta

Clashes erupt in Iran over disputed election

tweedledum and tweedledee.

967 Buck  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 9:23:41am

re: #893 Walter L. Newton

Thanks. But I decided that picture really didn't wasn't me anymore, since it's 8 years old, a character picture of me from a show, hair and beard all dyed, and I was 200 pounds bigger than. So, I thought it was time for something more current.

congrats on losing the weight.

968 realwest  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 9:24:47am

re: #936 Iron Fist
Hey Bro' - your grandmother was Fucking "A" right about that!
:)

969 Stuart Leviton  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 9:24:50am

re: #941 Walter L. Newton

Well, thank goodness the "binomial theorem" is only a theorem, and not statistical fact, or else we'd all be in trouble.

Point is, there is no way you can slot political elections into some sort of math like you are trying.

Bad example.

Hi Walter.

Isn't saying the binomial theorem is only a theorem like saying the Theory of Evolution is only one of many competing theories? I hope the Gallup people don't find out that "there is no way you can slot political elections into some sort of math".

970 pingjockey  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 9:24:53am

re: #964 realwest
Right there at the edge of the precipice!

971 razorbacker  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 9:26:00am

re: #937 MandyManners

Whatcha' gonna' create today?

Jobs, Baby.

Good jobs. Green jobs. High-paying jobs where you don't have to show up, but where beautiful people come to your home and give you 'happy ending' massages if you feel a bit under the weather.

Jobs with 53 weeks of paid vacations, jobs where you never grow old, or fall ill, or get fat, or lose weight, or your hair turn white. Jobs that never leave, or get made redundant.

Created a couple million of them, then got out of bed so I could create a few million more.

972 VegasRick  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 9:26:15am

re: #966 Spare O'Lake

tweedledum and tweedledumberdee.

FTFY

973 jcm  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 9:26:41am

re: #953 haakondahl

Yes, yes, yes, but what about the monkeys?

Realwest had the truth of it.......

326 on the last thread....

nirth certificate, it was captured by Chinese Communists who took it down into a littoral waters deisel operated submarine, which the monkeys then steered the sub into the sonar array and when the Chinese opened the hatch, the Monkey's retrieved it, only to be shot at long range (with tranquilizer darts, tranquilizer darts by SEAL Snipers on the McCain) while other SEALS stole the Nirth Certificate and gave it to the captain of the USS McCain!
And then his dog ate it.
The end.
974 realwest  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 9:26:46am

re: #940 lincolntf
Hey there - if y'all can hobble over to the pool, just fall in!

975 Stuart Leviton  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 9:26:46am

re: #956 vxbush

As a mathematician, I can tell you that you are dead wrong. The binomial theorem predicts no such thing.

Get your math straight.

Please, revisit your statistics books.

976 MandyManners  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 9:26:53am

Oh, for fuck's sake. MSNBC is running a piece on the "conspiracy" behind the death of Princess Diana.

977 vxbush  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 9:27:29am

re: #969 Stuart Leviton

Hi Walter.

Isn't saying the binomial theorem is only a theorem like saying the Theory of Evolution is only one of many competing theories? I hope the Gallup people don't find out that "there is no way you can slot political elections into some sort of math".

Excuse me, but the binomial theorem has nothing to do with statistics. You're thinking of the binomial distribution. The theorem has to do with the expansion of the expression (a + b)n for values of n ranking from a natural number N up to infinity.

978 VioletTiger  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 9:28:05am

re: #943 wrenchwench

I bookmarked that site. How I never saw it before today, I just don't know....

I love F-You Penguin. That guy is a riot.

979 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 9:28:12am

re: #977 vxbush

Excuse me, but the binomial theorem has nothing to do with statistics. You're thinking of the binomial distribution. The theorem has to do with the expansion of the expression (a + b)n for values of n ranking from a natural number N up to infinity.

Neener!

980 vxbush  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 9:28:26am

re: #975 Stuart Leviton

Please, revisit your statistics books.

As I said, you're talking distribution, not theorem. Get your terminology straight. And your supposition greatly depends on the values of p and q in your distribution.

Try again.

981 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 9:28:41am

Just posted in the spin-offs.

An OpEd in Pakistan's Dawn:

(second paragraph)
The suicide bombing at the Jamia Naeemia mosque in Lahore on Friday, in which the head cleric Dr Sarfraz Naeemi lost his life, is an urgent reminder that the fight against the Taliban is nothing less than a battle for the future of Islam and how the religion is to be practiced and interpreted in Pakistan.

There are those who get it -- possibly more of them than we're inclined to realize.

982 MandyManners  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 9:28:42am

re: #971 razorbacker

Jobs, Baby.

Good jobs. Green jobs. High-paying jobs where you don't have to show up, but where beautiful people come to your home and give you 'happy ending' massages if you feel a bit under the weather.

Jobs with 53 weeks of paid vacations, jobs where you never grow old, or fall ill, or get fat, or lose weight, or your hair turn white. Jobs that never leave, or get made redundant.

Created a couple million of them, then got out of bed so I could create a few million more.

Where's my unicorn?

983 realwest  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 9:28:56am

re: #957 HoosierHoops
It be just fine, thankew very much!

984 Digital Display  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 9:29:05am

re: #969 Stuart Leviton

Hi Walter.

Isn't saying the binomial theorem is only a theorem like saying the Theory of Evolution is only one of many competing theories? I hope the Gallup people don't find out that "there is no way you can slot political elections into some sort of math".

Really dude...Don't throw math terms around here about politics.
You are really splashing around in the shallow end of the pool.

985 Sharmuta  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 9:29:50am

re: #976 MandyManners

Oh, for fuck's sake. MSNBC is running a piece on the "conspiracy" behind the death of Princess Diana.

The irony is, of course, that the media helped kill her. They used that woman almost every day of her life as the Princess- hounded her mercilessly for years on end. Chased her around town. Created the hype for her photographs and enabled the paparazzi her drunk driver was trying to escape from.

The media makes me sick.

986 irongrampa  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 9:29:54am

re: #976 MandyManners

It's their idea of a relevant topic.

987 pingjockey  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 9:30:00am

re: #977 vxbush

Thank you. I was racking my brain and couldn't think of what I was trying to say. Damn CRS disease.

988 razorbacker  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 9:31:25am

re: #940 lincolntf

Holy hell it's hot outside. Just mowed the front lawn and I feel like I ran a freakin' marathon. I think I'm actually too spent to even get in the pool.


Just a minute. I'll open the door and turn the air conditioning down.

Should be cooling off any minute now.

989 jcm  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 9:31:27am

re: #961 MandyManners

Desmond's a monster.

The whole system in this state is a monster.

The law is parents have 18 months to get their shit together. This is so kids don't get yanked through the system for years. Poca's is at 4 years, and the parents have never gotten it together.

Our current foster girl, is at 10 months in the system. Mom is not doing any of the court order services, she won't even provided a diaper bag during her twice weekly visits. She decided since baby didn't like here prescription medicine she wasn't going to give it.

The case worker is still working on reunification with mom, despite no progress and only 8 months to go to close the case by law.

The boys we adopted the case took 3 years.

990 albusteve  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 9:31:30am

re: #985 Sharmuta

The irony is, of course, that the media helped kill her. They used that woman almost every day of her life as the Princess- hounded her mercilessly for years on end. Chased her around town. Created the hype for her photographs and enabled the paparazzi her drunk driver was trying to escape from.

The media makes me sick.

perfect example of how the MSM gets people killed....I say that with no reservation at all

991 pingjockey  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 9:31:43am

Heh! Jimmah is in Ramallah and is pontificating on Iran. He's still a Goddamned idiot.

992 vxbush  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 9:31:46am

re: #987 pingjockey

Thank you. I was racking my brain and couldn't think of what I was trying to say. Damn CRS disease.

For once, my math is useful on LGF! Yes! I knew my day would come. :D

993 vxbush  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 9:31:59am

re: #987 pingjockey

Thank you. I was racking my brain and couldn't think of what I was trying to say. Damn CRS disease.

Wait: CRS disease?

994 jcm  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 9:32:12am

re: #985 Sharmuta

The irony is, of course, that the media helped kill her. They used that woman almost every day of her life as the Princess- hounded her mercilessly for years on end. Chased her around town. Created the hype for her photographs and enabled the paparazzi her drunk driver was trying to escape from.

The media makes me sick.

DING!

995 littleoldlady  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 9:32:29am

re: #958 razorbacker

Well, perhaps you're right, but I seriously doubt it will happen in Philadelphia.

Here's what typically happens in this town: "poor starving artists" discover a cheap, run-down neighborhood, they move in one by one, renovate, start forming a community of sorts...the next thing you know the yuppies (or GenWhatever they're calling the 20-30 year olds these days) move in, expensive condos are built, et voila! suburbanites are showing up every Saturday night for dinner at the latest chi-chi restaurant.

;-)

996 realwest  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 9:32:44am

re: #973 jcm
Thank you for repeating that again! I reckon you really did ROTFLMAO when you read it the first time.

BTW, did you catch my follow-up: The Captain's dog's name was BO and he's a waterdog!

997 jcm  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 9:33:13am

re: #991 pingjockey

Heh! Jimmah is in Ramallah and is pontificating on Iran. He's still a Goddamned idiot.

There you go insulting idiots the world over!

;-P

998 callahan23  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 9:33:25am

re: #976 MandyManners

Oh, for fuck's sake. 'PM' a German magazine that is the only possible counterpart of 'Popular Mechanics' has it's feature story for this month:

"The Illuminati - And the powers they are nowadays still yielding."

Conspiracy seems to sell well in these times.
Yuck.
%P% %P% %P%
! ! ! Hello Lizardia! ! !

999 Sharmuta  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 9:33:39am

re: #990 albusteve

perfect example of how the MSM gets people killed....I say that with no reservation at all

I remember a few years back- some Hollywood star was complaining about the paparazzi and their spokesperson said that one day, the pap was going to get someone killed. I said, "HELLO! Her name was DIANA!"

1000 jcm  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 9:33:45am

re: #996 realwest

Thank you for repeating that again! I reckon you really did ROTFLMAO when you read it the first time.

BTW, did you catch my follow-up: The Captain's dog's name was BO and he's a waterdog!

Even better!

1001 littleoldlady  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 9:33:49am

re: #960 realwest

{realwest}! :-)

Just a little driveby.

/this urban unrenewal idea has been bugging me... ;-)

We're okay. How's by you?

1002 MandyManners  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 9:34:04am

The car was crashed by remote control!

1003 Digital Display  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 9:34:04am

re: #998 callahan23

Oh, for fuck's sake. 'PM' a German magazine that is the only possible counterpart of 'Popular Mechanics' has it's feature story for this month:

Conspiracy seems to sell well in these times.
Yuck.
%P% %P% %P%
! ! ! Hello Lizardia! ! !

What up bro? Good to see you!

1004 pingjockey  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 9:34:18am

re: #993 vxbush
Can't Remember Shit, closely related to CRAFT disease, Can't Remember A Fucking Thing!

1005 realwest  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 9:34:29am

re: #976 MandyManners

Oh, for fuck's sake. MSNBC is running a piece on the "conspiracy" behind the death of Princess Diana.

What, do y'all think there's anything currently newsworthy they could do a show about?!
/

1006 MandyManners  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 9:35:18am

The Jews killed Diana because she supported a "Palestinian" state!

1007 BlueCanuck  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 9:35:29am

re: #995 littleoldlady

Urban renewal. Seen it here in Toronto in many older neighborhoods. Once you know what to look for it's easy to spot. If you have the money you can make a mint by speculating on the latest renewal.

1008 vxbush  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 9:35:41am

re: #1004 pingjockey

Can't Remember Shit, closely related to CRAFT disease, Can't Remember A Fucking Thing!

ROTFLMAO! I seem to have that problem too, but the math stuff has entered long-term memory and therefore is less volatile.

Heh.....

1009 littleoldlady  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 9:35:49am

BlueCanuck! :-)

How am I going to see you if I don't show up at "off" (for me) times? ;-)

1010 MandyManners  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 9:35:50am

I'm gonna' get some lunch before I shoot my television. bbiab

1011 realwest  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 9:35:55am

re: #981 pre-Boomer Marine brat Just an excellent comment and link. Thank you for that!

1012 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 9:36:00am

re: #998 callahan23

Oh, for fuck's sake. 'PM' a German magazine that is the only possible counterpart of 'Popular Mechanics' has it's feature story for this month:

Conspiracy seems to sell well in these times.
Yuck.
%P% %P% %P%
! ! ! Hello Lizardia! ! !

It seems a lot of scientific magazine are playing that game. Archeology magazine (house organ of the AIA), had a recent issue with the headline "Atlantic Found" and inside was an article on a Atlantic theme hotel in Dubai or some place like that.

Slop.

1013 Sharmuta  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 9:36:44am

The Princess died of the same sort of injury that Natasha Richardson died of. Had the ambulance in Paris been able to get out of the tunnel, and had been able to get Diana to the hospital- she could have been saved.

She died because of the paparazzi traffic in the tunnel.

Bastards.

1014 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 9:36:48am

Just a note from my drive last night--if I were going to put an Obama sticker on my car (no on both counts--Obama and stickers on my car), I would be darn sure that it wasn't directly above a sticker that said "Pure Evil." Placement dude, placement.
No, I didn't get a picture. I was driving.

1015 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 9:36:54am

re: #1012 Walter L. Newton

It seems a lot of scientific magazine are playing that game. Archeology magazine (house organ of the AIA), had a recent issue with the headline "Atlantic Found" and inside was an article on a Atlantic theme hotel in Dubai or some place like that.

Slop.

Correction : Atlantis

1016 BlueCanuck  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 9:37:03am

re: #1009 littleoldlady

Well, you may be seeing a bit more of me. I finally got the coveted day shift. Start next Wednesday. :)

1017 vxbush  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 9:37:28am

re: #1012 Walter L. Newton

It seems a lot of scientific magazine are playing that game. Archeology magazine (house organ of the AIA), had a recent issue with the headline "Atlantic Found" and inside was an article on a Atlantic theme hotel in Dubai or some place like that.

Slop.

Oh, dear. I was hoping it hadn't fallen to that level of shlock.

1018 Stuart Leviton  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 9:37:44am

re: #977 vxbush

Excuse me, but the binomial theorem has nothing to do with statistics. You're thinking of the binomial distribution. The theorem has to do with the expansion of the expression (a + b)n for values of n ranking from a natural number N up to infinity.

Ooops! You're right. I stand corrected. The binomial theorem sits behind the binomial distribution.

1019 jcm  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 9:37:52am

re: #1004 pingjockey

Can't Remember Shit, closely related to CRAFT disease, Can't Remember A Fucking Thing!

Is that anything like WDIPI?

Where Did I Put It.

1020 littleoldlady  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 9:38:16am

re: #1016 BlueCanuck

Well, you may be seeing a bit more of me. I finally got the coveted day shift. Start next Wednesday. :)

HURRAY! :-)

/mazel tov!
//...wait...does that mean you'll be online at 5 am?

1021 pingjockey  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 9:38:25am

Y'all do know if we get to 1024 posts, we'll turn into a Fast Fourier Transform algorithm!
BTW, when someone says a 'shitload' it equals 1024. My sonar electronics instructor told me so!

1022 callahan23  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 9:39:04am

re: #1003 HoosierHoops

What up bro? Good to see you!

All systems operate nominal. ;-) Thanks for asking my friend. Are you enjoying your vacation yet or are you still in working schedule mode?
I will now only be briefly online as I am soon goin' on the prowl.

1023 vxbush  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 9:39:19am

re: #1018 Stuart Leviton

Ooops! You're right. I stand corrected. The binomial theorem sits behind the binomial distribution.

Thank you. I'm a professional.

1024 razorbacker  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 9:39:19am

re: #982 MandyManners

Where's my unicorn?

Some promises have been overtaken by the course of events.

Some slight reduction in expectations may be necessary.

I have checked, and it seems that your unicorn has been replaced by a spavined goat with one horn broken off.

Sorry about that.

1025 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 9:39:24am

re: #1011 realwest

Just an excellent comment and link. Thank you for that!

You're welcome.

Hardly wanting to wish harm on these clerics, but ... the more of this that happens, the better the chances for both defeating the Taliban/al Qaida and turning Islam around. The Taliban are digging their own grave (that is, if the Pak Army has balls.)

1026 realwest  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 9:39:29am

re: #989 jcm
I've said this before and it bears repeating: what you and yours have done for the children you've taken under your wings is remarkable and wonderful. We need a whole lot more folks like you.

1027 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 9:39:35am

re: #1017 vxbush

Oh, dear. I was hoping it hadn't fallen to that level of shlock.

As I correct myself above, the word should be "Atlantis."

1028 BlueCanuck  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 9:39:54am

re: #1020 littleoldlady

HURRAY! :-)

/mazel tov!
//...wait...does that mean you'll be online at 5 am?

Not quite, but I will have to get up earlier to get myself organized and out the door. I do need about an hour or so of tea, toast, and internet time before I move my butt. :)

1029 pingjockey  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 9:40:34am

re: #1019 jcm
Same family of brain dysfunction!

1030 wrenchwench  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 9:40:45am

re: #1021 pingjockey

Y'all do know if we get to 1024 posts, we'll turn into a Fast Fourier Transform algorithm!
BTW, when someone says a 'shitload' it equals 1024. My sonar electronics instructor told me so!

"Shitload" = a lot

"Fuckwad" = a whole lot

"Brick" = even more than that

/high school

1031 realwest  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 9:40:50am

re: #998 callahan23
Hey there (callahan23) how the heck are you today?

1032 jcm  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 9:41:01am

re: #1013 Sharmuta

The Princess died of the same sort of injury that Natasha Richardson died of. Had the ambulance in Paris been able to get out of the tunnel, and had been able to get Diana to the hospital- she could have been saved.

She died because of the paparazzi traffic in the tunnel.

Bastards.

Once they got clear they drove slow to the hospital so as not to jar her.

I'm convinced if she'd had the same accident with the same injuries the same distance from the trauma center in Seattle she would have survived.

Cops would have clear the fucking paparazzi out of the way. The she would have advanced car during the extrication, intervention in the Medic unit and been in the ER within minutes and in surgery in less than an hour.

1033 realwest  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 9:42:00am

re: #1001 littleoldlady
We're about the same. Glad to see you and hear from you! {lol}!

1034 Digital Display  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 9:42:06am

re: #1022 callahan23

All systems operate nominal. ;-) Thanks for asking my friend. Are you enjoying your vacation yet or are you still in working schedule mode?
I will now only be briefly online as I am soon goin' on the prowl.

Not going back to work for 9 days.Fly out monday to the lake...
It's always good to see you bud

1035 KenJen  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 9:42:13am

Hi Hoops! Thanks for the miny pep talk the other day. My pity party is over. I'm finally out of the bottoms comments. That really sucked.

1036 jcm  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 9:42:16am

re: #1021 pingjockey

Y'all do know if we get to 1024 posts, we'll turn into a Fast Fourier Transform algorithm!
BTW, when someone says a 'shitload' it equals 1024. My sonar electronics instructor told me so!

One little ole' kB a shitload?

You're dating yourself!
/;-P

1037 callahan23  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 9:42:33am

re: #1015 Walter L. Newton

Correction : Atlantis

The German magazine does really feature that article in it's entrails.
It is an abomination to the genre of those types of magazines. Rationality doesn't seem to sell that well on these shores.

1038 vxbush  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 9:42:36am

re: #1027 Walter L. Newton

As I correct myself above, the word should be "Atlantis."

But that's still really lame. Do they not publish any that qualifies as scholarly, even if written for the lay audience?

1039 albusteve  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 9:42:46am

re: #1034 HoosierHoops

Not going back to work for 9 days.Fly out monday to the lake...
It's always good to see you bud

fish tacos?

1040 wrenchwench  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 9:42:54am

re: #1022 callahan23

All systems operate nominal. ;-) Thanks for asking my friend. Are you enjoying your vacation yet or are you still in working schedule mode?
I will now only be briefly online as I am soon goin' on the prowl.

Have a good prowl, callahan. I gotta go work on some bikes. Later, lizards!

1041 Sharmuta  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 9:43:29am

re: #1032 jcm

Her sons didn't have to lose their mother. I know most people don't care about a spoiled royal, but I think it's a tragedy. I don't appreciate the revisionism Mandy said msnbc is promoting. The media has Diana's blood on their hands as far as I'm concerned- every bit as much as the driver.

1042 razorbacker  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 9:43:30am

re: #995 littleoldlady

That's kind of the best case senario for a lot of places.

It happens. I'd think that the whole 'starving for the sake of art' thing may lose it's panache once everyone is hungry, though. No sense in suffering if it don't make you special.

1043 littleoldlady  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 9:43:30am

People want food (the nerve of them!) - and there's nothing in the house...

I'd better get moving, I guess.

Good day, ALL™ [redux]

1044 Cato the Elder  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 9:43:53am

re: #800 MandyManners

Hey, Cato the Elder?

FCBBHO!

Neener.

"Heart of my heart, were it more,
More would be laid at your feet"
As it is all I can give
Is an upding to make your day sweet.

[with deep apologies to Algernon Charles Swinburne]

1045 BlueCanuck  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 9:45:25am

Bye littleoldlady. Have a good day.

1046 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 9:45:25am

re: #1021 pingjockey

Y'all do know if we get to 1024 posts, we'll turn into a Fast Fourier Transform algorithm!
BTW, when someone says a 'shitload' it equals 1024. My sonar electronics instructor told me so!

You really like AlGoreRhythms?
I'll do a voodoo dance and give you a hex Fourier faster transformation.

1047 jcm  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 9:45:33am

re: #1041 Sharmuta

Her sons didn't have to lose their mother. I know most people don't care about a spoiled royal, but I think it's a tragedy. I don't appreciate the revisionism Mandy said msnbc is promoting. The media has Diana's blood on their hands as far as I'm concerned- every bit as much as the driver.

Diana was a very decent person who got used horribly, by the royals and the media.

1048 callahan23  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 9:46:11am

re: #1031 realwest

Hey there (callahan23) how the heck are you today?

Well thank you I am actually doin' fine and looking forward to go on the prowl. ;-)
Not that I expect much to come off of it though. You sound pretty cheery yourself, I hope you are well!

1049 pingjockey  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 9:46:13am

re: #1036 jcm

Heh. I remember teaching the processing circuits and the algorithm took 3 pages in the manual! The kids liked to flipped out when they saw it!

1050 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 9:46:57am

re: #1038 vxbush

But that's still really lame. Do they not publish any that qualifies as scholarly, even if written for the lay audience?

They have in the past. The American Institute of Archeology is a well know organization, been around a long time, so has the house organ, but they have taken to sensational headlines and some stories that stretch the credibility of their editorial direction.

It's not that any of the article are full of junk science, but the way they are marketing the magazine is more like "tabloid" style screaming half-truth headlines and other gimmicky articles.

1051 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 9:47:26am

BBIAM (Laundry)

1052 pingjockey  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 9:47:51am

re: #1046 pre-Boomer Marine brat
Mwahaha! AlGoreRythms....Polar bears dancing while the polar ice cap melt!

1053 callahan23  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 9:47:53am

re: #1040 wrenchwench

Have a good prowl, callahan. I gotta go work on some bikes. Later, lizards!

Later {wrenchwench}

1054 Digital Display  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 9:48:08am

re: #1035 KenJen

Hi Hoops! Thanks for the miny pep talk the other day. My pity party is over. I'm finally out of the bottoms comments. That really sucked.

Hey there Jen...Good to see you...It was my 1 year birthday yesterday here.
I was once got down dinged cause I made a joke about the Grateful Dead..It hurt my feelings..So I stear clear of that topic..Haha
Never mind once that I hung in the sound room with Roger Buffalo during a recording.....Must not touch the Dead....Downding heaven!
LOL

1055 BlueCanuck  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 9:49:00am

BBIAB, work duties beckon.

1056 vxbush  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 9:49:14am

Och. I have to restart my machine; I installed some new software. Back in a bit.

1057 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 9:49:35am

re: #1052 pingjockey

Mwahaha! AlGoreRythms....Polar bears dancing while the polar ice cap melt!

Somehow I just KNEW you were familiar with that software.
After all, ... it's a subroutine.

1058 Sharmuta  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 9:49:53am

re: #1047 jcm

Diana was a very decent person who got used horribly, by the royals and the media.

She still gets used by the media. They still drag her out to get ratings or sell their trashy magazines.

I stopped purchasing glossy mags when People magazine published a photo of Kurt Cobain's dead body on the floor from the neck down. I found it disgusting that any organization would reward a photographer for violating such a scene. I wrote them and told them they should be ashamed of themselves- some day his daughter will see that photo. They wrote me back that it was fitting because it captured the "mood" of the scene. Bastards then had the gall to say they wouldn't publish photos of Diana dying in the back seat of the car.

Hypocrites.

1059 notutopia  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 9:50:35am

Watch what people are cynical about, and one can often discover what they lack.

— Harry Emerson Fosdick


Money! I'm cynical about money. And yes, it's because I'm lacking a whole lot LESS of it since Obama has taken the throne.

1060 realwest  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 9:50:55am

re: #1025 pre-Boomer Marine brat Well the Regular Paki Army does indeed have balls and equipment and training from the Chinese and from the U.S.
Don't have a link handy, but the Regular Pakistani Army is killing the Taliban by the truckload and just re-took control of the largest town in SWAT. Seems the folks who live in SWAT (who are returning by the thousands) are doing to the Taliban and Al-Q what the Iraqi's finally started to do: point out their hiding places and when and where they move to the Pakistani Army.
I think, though there's a way to go, that the Taliban and Al-Q are finished in SWAT - they violated the first rule of guerrilla warfare: You MUST get the populace on your side to be successful.

1061 pingjockey  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 9:51:18am

re: #1057 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Heh.

1062 KenJen  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 9:51:24am

re: #1054 HoosierHoops

Hey there Jen...Good to see you...It was my 1 year birthday yesterday here.
I was once got down dinged cause I made a joke about the Grateful Dead..It hurt my feelings..So I stear clear of that topic..Haha
Never mind once that I hung in the sound room with Roger Buffalo during a recording.....Must not touch the Dead....Downding heaven!
LOL

Happy belated Lizard B-day. I totally forgot. Hope you got bunches of updings.

1063 pingjockey  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 9:52:51am

re: #1060 realwest
The SoBs keep blowing up mosques! Hopefully the people have had enough!

1064 razorbacker  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 9:53:15am

re: #995 littleoldlady

Where I currently live used to be a town. Old old-timers have pointed to where the post office used to be, and shown me the field where the general store was, and the foundations where the hotel existed.

Now all that is left is a one-room building that formerly held the school, now closed up and called a 'community center', though there is no community to be the center of.

I have to go for a while. My wife wants me to bestir myself and help put the two rooms worth of stuff back into that tiny hall closet I had to empty so that the HVAC folks could get into the attic.

I need to have a garage sale, but I'd have to clean out the garage enough to get into it, first.

It's always something.

1065 jcm  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 9:53:18am

re: #1049 pingjockey

Heh. I remember teaching the processing circuits and the algorithm took 3 pages in the manual! The kids liked to flipped out when they saw it!

Only 3 pages? And they flipped?

1066 albusteve  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 9:54:57am

re: #1060 realwest

Well the Regular Paki Army does indeed have balls and equipment and training from the Chinese and from the U.S.
Don't have a link handy, but the Regular Pakistani Army is killing the Taliban by the truckload and just re-took control of the largest town in SWAT. Seems the folks who live in SWAT (who are returning by the thousands) are doing to the Taliban and Al-Q what the Iraqi's finally started to do: point out their hiding places and when and where they move to the Pakistani Army.
I think, though there's a way to go, that the Taliban and Al-Q are finished in SWAT - they violated the first rule of guerrilla warfare: You MUST get the populace on your side to be successful.

thanks for the reminder...I was very skeptical that the Pakis would chase the Taliban down and in fact said that they would not...I was wrong...I was banking on the refugees becoming part of their strategy and if it was it didn't work so well

1067 pingjockey  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 9:55:22am

re: #1065 jcm
3 pages, in very small numbers! Teaching octal and hexadecimal was a chore. Binary they picked up easily.

1068 pingjockey  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 9:57:26am

Hmmm...Charles and Stinky must be sleeping in.

1069 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 9:58:02am

re: #1060 realwest

Well the Regular Paki Army does indeed have balls and equipment and training from the Chinese and from the U.S.
Don't have a link handy, but the Regular Pakistani Army is killing the Taliban by the truckload and just re-took control of the largest town in SWAT. Seems the folks who live in SWAT (who are returning by the thousands) are doing to the Taliban and Al-Q what the Iraqi's finally started to do: point out their hiding places and when and where they move to the Pakistani Army.
I think, though there's a way to go, that the Taliban and Al-Q are finished in SWAT - they violated the first rule of guerrilla warfare: You MUST get the populace on your side to be successful.

(Last one first) Yes, there's been an undercurrent of opposition to the Taliban, even in the FATA, since they bailed out of Afghanistan and began disrupting the Pak local power structure. A lot of tribal leaders have been killed, which is why the Taliban now have secure areas inside Pakistan.

(to the first) No, the Pak Army is out-classed "on the ground" -- in the mountain redoubts.

1070 kansas  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 9:58:27am

Good News! Obama has "found" the money to pay for health care.
[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

Plus
Monkeys fly out of my butt....pictures at 10.

1071 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 9:59:57am

Jimmy Carter's reaction to the Iranian election...

"I don't think it will have any real effect because the same president will be there as has been there before. So there won't be any change. I think that the election has brought a lot of opposition to his policies in Iran and I'm sure he'll listen to the opposition and maybe he'll modify some of his positions."

I want some of what he's smoking.

[Link: news.bbc.co.uk...]

1072 Cato the Elder  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 10:00:24am

re: #998 callahan23

Oh, for fuck's sake. 'PM' a German magazine that is the only possible counterpart of 'Popular Mechanics' has it's feature story for this month:

"The Illuminati - And the powers they are nowadays still yielding."

Conspiracy seems to sell well in these times.
Yuck.
%P% %P% %P%
! ! ! Hello Lizardia! ! !

Um, hello? It's an article about Dan Brown's book of that name ("Angels and Demons" is "Illuminati" in German), and the film - and the money to be made out of such things.

Not about any supposedly realexistierende "Illuminati".

And the power they yield - not wield, as one might expect - is that of coining money from the credulity of readers and viewers dumb enough to want a rerun of "The DaVinci Code".

Perhaps not a totally irrelevant sidelight to be thrown on things by a magazine devoted to rationality.

Sorry to spoil your rant, though.

1073 Last Mohican  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 10:01:13am

Now that we're over 1000 comments, does anyone want to know what I think?

I think interleague play is lame.

1074 pingjockey  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 10:01:55am

re: #1071 Walter L. Newton
No frakkin' doubt! That is some really good shit!

1075 jcm  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 10:02:25am

re: #1067 pingjockey

3 pages, in very small numbers! Teaching octal and hexadecimal was a chore. Binary they picked up easily.

We I do trouble shooting I have to read the binary 8bit signal off the scope and translate into hex, when I've been doing a lot of 'em I'll see the signal and translate directly into hex.

The fun starts if I have to turn the hex back into assembly.

1076 vxbush  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 10:02:36am

Ah. that's better. Okay, I see I missed Jimmy Carter. That's perfectly fine by me.

1077 pingjockey  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 10:03:14am

re: #1073 Last Mohican
The frakkin' DH is lame, too.

1078 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 10:03:26am

re: #1070 kansas

Good News! Obama has "found" the money to pay for health care.
[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

Plus
Monkeys fly out of my butt....pictures at 10.

"The bulk of the new $313 billion in savings would come from cutting or reducing the growth of payments to hospitals, medical equipment manufacturers and laboratories — though the major cuts don't target doctors, Orszag said."

So, in short, in order to afford socialized healthcare, he is going to force the medical equipment manufacturers to make cheaper medical equipment. Sounds like a plan to me. OMG.

1079 bbcrackmonkey  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 10:03:42am

The Iranian elections were transparently fraudulent. One of the minor candidates actually had his vote total decrease after they counted more votes, and another minor candidate had less votes than he did campaign supporters.

The numbers are phony and made from whole cloth. They do not reflect ANY of the pre-election polling or the exit polling, and the Revolutionary Guards and Basij were out in FULL FORCE just waiting to attack Mousavi supporters the night of the election.

Mousavi himself was arrested by the IRG while on his way to plead his case to the clerics. Last I heard he is under house arrest. With all the talk of reform and the people coloring themselves green the IRG got scared it would be another Orange Revolution and they'd be out on their asses. Well now they just may get a Revolution.

1080 Sharmuta  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 10:03:58am

re: #1073 Last Mohican

Now that we're over 1000 comments, does anyone want to know what I think?

I think interleague play is lame.

Not as lame as tying in the all star game.

1081 KenJen  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 10:04:29am

re: #1070 kansas

Good News! Obama has "found" the money to pay for health care.
[Link: news.yahoo.com...]

Plus
Monkeys fly out of my butt....pictures at 10.

The article left out the part where Obama will sign a presidential order demanding that all Americans not get sick for the next 10 years.

1082 MandyManners  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 10:04:49am

re: #1071 Walter L. Newton

Jimmy Carter's reaction to the Iranian election...

"I don't think it will have any real effect because the same president will be there as has been there before. So there won't be any change. I think that the election has brought a lot of opposition to his policies in Iran and I'm sure he'll listen to the opposition and maybe he'll modify some of his positions."

I want some of what he's smoking.

[Link: news.bbc.co.uk...]

I don't.

1083 pingjockey  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 10:05:49am

re: #1075 jcm
That should be entertaining!

1084 Digital Display  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 10:06:15am

re: #1073 Last Mohican

Now that we're over 1000 comments, does anyone want to know what I think?

I think interleague play is lame.

Why? You don't want to see the Mets play the Yankees? The Cubs play the White Sox.The A's play the Giants? The Angels play the Dodgers?

1085 jcm  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 10:07:04am

re: #1071 Walter L. Newton

Jimmy Carter's reaction to the Iranian election...

"I don't think it will have any real effect because the same president will be there as has been there before. So there won't be any change. I think that the election has brought a lot of opposition to his policies in Iran and I'm sure he'll listen to the opposition and maybe he'll modify some of his positions."

I want some of what he's smoking.

[Link: news.bbc.co.uk...]

Rabbit Bait likes dictators, after all they speak for the people.

1086 Kronocide  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 10:07:36am

re: #1071 Walter L. Newton

I think that the election has brought a lot of opposition to his policies in Iran and I'm sure he'll listen to the opposition and maybe he'll modify some of his positions."

[Link: news.bbc.co.uk...]

Oh. My. God. Does anybody ever learn?

1087 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 10:07:43am

re: #989 jcm

The whole system in this state is a monster.

The law is parents have 18 months to get their shit together. This is so kids don't get yanked through the system for years. Poca's is at 4 years, and the parents have never gotten it together.

Our current foster girl, is at 10 months in the system. Mom is not doing any of the court order services, she won't even provided a diaper bag during her twice weekly visits. She decided since baby didn't like here prescription medicine she wasn't going to give it.

The case worker is still working on reunification with mom, despite no progress and only 8 months to go to close the case by law.

The boys we adopted the case took 3 years.

I'm not sure it really about the children in cases like that. It may be more about the social workers desire to show soldarity with poor people and not condemn them. It also appears that the child is not white while the foster parents are. That could also be an explanation.

1088 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 10:07:44am

re: #1072 Cato the Elder

Um, hello? It's an article about Dan Brown's book of that name ("Angels and Demons" is "Illuminati" in German), and the film - and the money to be made out of such things.

Not about any supposedly realexistierende "Illuminati".

And the power they yield - not wield, as one might expect - is that of coining money from the credulity of readers and viewers dumb enough to want a rerun of "The DaVinci Code".

Perhaps not a totally irrelevant sidelight to be thrown on things by a magazine devoted to rationality.

Sorry to spoil your rant, though.

I think callahan23's reference to this story, and my comments above about "Archeology" magazine is the bigger issue here Cato. This once respected magazine are taking a tabloid feel about them.

As I mentioned above, the last issue of Archeology Magazine, published by the AIA, had a headline "Atlantis Found" and the article was about an Atlantis themed hotel in Dubai.

That's cheap, period. Let the sceptic publications deal with the "Angels and Demons" discussions and hopefully the science magazine will deal with pure science.

I don't like the crossover tactics they are taking.

1089 Last Mohican  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 10:07:56am

re: #1077 pingjockey

The frakkin' DH is lame, too.

Agreed. So far, we have:

1. Interleague play
2. DH
3. Tie in the all-star game

I would also like to add

4. That little hill sloping up to the center field wall that they have in Houston.

1090 jcm  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 10:08:08am

re: #1083 pingjockey

That should be entertaining!

Fortunately, mostly I get to design and build the test hardware and leave the code to the code monkeys.

1091 albusteve  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 10:08:13am

re: #1084 HoosierHoops

Why? You don't want to see the Mets play the Yankees? The Cubs play the White Sox.The A's play the Giants? The Angels play the Dodgers?

and get rid of the pant legs dragging in the dirt...lose all the bling too

1092 KenJen  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 10:09:17am

re: #1079 bbcrackmonkey

The Iranian elections were transparently fraudulent. One of the minor candidates actually had his vote total decrease after they counted more votes, and another minor candidate had less votes than he did campaign supporters.

The numbers are phony and made from whole cloth. They do not reflect ANY of the pre-election polling or the exit polling, and the Revolutionary Guards and Basij were out in FULL FORCE just waiting to attack Mousavi supporters the night of the election.

Mousavi himself was arrested by the IRG while on his way to plead his case to the clerics. Last I heard he is under house arrest. With all the talk of reform and the people coloring themselves green the IRG got scared it would be another Orange Revolution and they'd be out on their asses. Well now they just may get a Revolution.

Pre-election/exit polling must be very scary for the voter. Gotta wonder who's doing the polling. The Republican Guard? Everyone must say they are voting for or voted for dinnerjacket.

1093 Last Mohican  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 10:10:26am

re: #1084 HoosierHoops

Why? You don't want to see the Mets play the Yankees? The Cubs play the White Sox.The A's play the Giants? The Angels play the Dodgers?

No. If they make the world series, as in 1989 for example, then it's extra-exciting. Otherwise, it's lame. Mainly because it disrupts the otherwise beautiful symmetry of the game, and makes things unfair. Why should one team be forced to play the best team from the other league, but compete in their division against others who don't? Not fair.

1094 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 10:10:43am

re: #1072 Cato the Elder

Um, hello? It's an article about Dan Brown's book of that name ("Angels and Demons" is "Illuminati" in German), and the film - and the money to be made out of such things.

Cato, Angels and Demons" is "Engel und Dämonen" in German. The Dan Brown book is about the ILLUMINATI. I don't think you even know what you are talking about.

1095 MandyManners  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 10:10:48am

re: #1090 jcm

Fortunately, mostly I get to design and build the test hardware and leave the code to the code monkeys.

Code monkey?


1096 pingjockey  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 10:11:00am

re: #1089 Last Mohican
I like the new "retro" ball parks. That little hill maybe a bit much, though. Asymmetrical ball parks are fun.

1097 Last Mohican  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 10:12:09am

re: #1091 albusteve

and get rid of the pant legs dragging in the dirt...lose all the bling too

I'll support that. I'm fine with the pants going all the way down to the shoe, showing no sock, if they want. But pulled all the way down below the shoe so that they drag in the dirt? Lame.

1098 jcm  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 10:12:14am

re: #1089 Last Mohican

Agreed. So far, we have:

1. Interleague play
2. DH
3. Tie in the all-star game

I would also like to add

4. That little hill sloping up to the center field wall that they have in Houston.

Don't forget: Lights at Wrigley!

1099 jcm  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 10:12:50am

re: #1096 pingjockey

I like the new "retro" ball parks. That little hill maybe a bit much, though. Asymmetrical ball parks are fun.

You been to Safeco?

The funding shenanigans pissed me off, but damn that's a nice park.

1100 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 10:13:50am

re: #1090 jcm

Fortunately, mostly I get to design and build the test hardware and leave the code to the code monkeys.

Yeah, be sanctimonious.
I hear you've been taking them to the prom.
/just TRY to deny it!

1101 callahan23  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 10:14:28am

re: #1088 Walter L. Newton

I think callahan23's reference to this story, and my comments above about "Archeology" magazine is the bigger issue here Cato. This once respected magazine are taking a tabloid feel about them.

As I mentioned above, the last issue of Archeology Magazine, published by the AIA, had a headline "Atlantis Found" and the article was about an Atlantis themed hotel in Dubai.

That's cheap, period. Let the sceptic publications deal with the "Angels and Demons" discussions and hopefully the science magazine will deal with pure science.

I don't like the crossover tactics they are taking.

Thank you I was distracted but you are right, you stated my initial intent.

Cato is correct however in that he states that the book as well as the movie "Angels and Demons" was translated and sold as "Illuminati" in Germany.

1102 realwest  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 10:14:34am

re: #1063 pingjockey
Well, from news reports (keep that caveat in mind) they sure do seem to be - as I said, they are now being pointed out to the Pakistani Regular Army who apparently have NO QUALMS AT ALL about killing the Taliban and Al-Quaeda when they find 'em. And the Regular Pakistani Army has been, at least as reported by AP (!) killing them literally by the truckloads.
When Al-Q and their stooges the Taliban, have to resort to blowing up mosques, you know they've lost the confidence of the populace.

1103 Last Mohican  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 10:14:45am

re: #1096 pingjockey

I like the new "retro" ball parks. That little hill maybe a bit much, though. Asymmetrical ball parks are fun.

I like the idiosyncratic designs too. They give the parks character. But a hill on the playing field? Lame. Next thing you know they'll have a little windmill out by the shortstop, where if the ball happens to go into the little hole in the bottom, it'll fly out toward the second baseman.

Major league baseball parks shouldn't be turned into miniature gold courses. I'm surprised more outfielders don't hurt themselves on that stupid hill.

1104 pingjockey  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 10:16:16am

re: #1099 jcm
Yep. The funding was "iffy". It is a nice ballpark.

1105 Kronocide  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 10:17:01am

re: #1095 MandyManners

That's great! Sent it to my programmers for their approval.

Programmer Joke:

How can you tell when a programmer is an extrovert?
...
..
.
.
.

He looks at your shoes when he talks to you.

1106 jcm  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 10:17:02am

re: #1100 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Yeah, be sanctimonious.
I hear you've been taking them to the prom.
/just TRY to deny it!

Prom got canceled, the downturn and all. Hardware jockeys and code monkeys, all work and no play.

1107 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 10:17:16am

re: #1101 callahan23

Thank you I was distracted but you are right, you stated my initial intent.

Cato is correct however in that he states that the book as well as the movie "Angels and Demons" was translated and sold as "Illuminati" in Germany.

No, it was sold as "Illuminati." It is incorrect on Cato's part, and on your part, to claim that it was translated as Illuminati. It was marketed under that title, which is common in cross-cultural marketing.

I was being a bit exacting if anything, but my point still stands.

1108 callahan23  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 10:17:18am

But seriously Sis' 'n Bros', Lizards 'n friends probably I'll be back tonight. BBL

1109 pingjockey  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 10:17:38am

re: #1103 Last Mohican
IIRC, that hill was copied from one in one of the 'old' ball parks.

1110 Rancher  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 10:18:08am
Secretary of State Hillary Clinton says the U.S. hopes the outcome of Iran's presidential election reflects the "genuine will and desire" of Iranian citizens.


There's that word again.

1111 MandyManners  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 10:19:25am

re: #1105 BigPapa

That's great! Sent it to my programmers for their approval.

Programmer Joke:

How can you tell when a programmer is an extrovert?
...
..
.
.
.

He looks at your shoes when he talks to you.

HA!

Charles posted that video ages ago.

1112 jcm  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 10:20:21am

re: #1110 Rancher

There's that word again.

I do not think that word means what they think it means.

1113 MandyManners  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 10:20:32am

re: #1108 callahan23

But seriously Sis' 'n Bros', Lizards 'n friends probably I'll be back tonight. BBL

Have a great day!

1114 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 10:20:55am

re: #1106 jcm

Prom got canceled, the downturn and all. Hardware jockeys and code monkeys, all work and no play.

Awwwwwwwwwwwww

:D

1115 realwest  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 10:21:54am

Well y'all it's been real, but I gotta go eat some lunch now. I hope you all have a GREAT day and that I get the chance to see you all down the road.

1116 Cato the Elder  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 10:22:14am

re: #1094 Walter L. Newton

Cato, Angels and Demons" is "Engel und Dämonen" in German. The Dan Brown book is about the ILLUMINATI. I don't think you even know what you are talking about.

You're so sure of yourself, one is almost reluctant to burst your bubble.

Illuminati von Dan Brown (German Amazon site)

Originaltitel: Angels and Demons

The Germans and other furriners often change the titles of books if they think they'll sell better than a direct translation.

The "larger point" is that PM is questioning the origin of people's fascination with conspiracy theories. A sellout? If you like. I happen to think it's a good question to ask, especially as people's search for the next apocolyptogasm seems to be intensifying.

1117 Deseeded  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 10:22:46am

re: #715 sattv4u2

and a tea bagger!

I hung with Link in Worcester back in his Massachusetts day, and he was the most polite and cordial person I have ever argued with. His online persona gets a bit of crap from time to time! AHahahha!

1118 Cato the Elder  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 10:23:07am

re: #1107 Walter L. Newton

No, it was sold as "Illuminati." It is incorrect on Cato's part, and on your part, to claim that it was translated as Illuminati. It was marketed under that title, which is common in cross-cultural marketing.

I was being a bit exacting if anything, but my point still stands.

A distinction without a difference.

1119 Kronocide  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 10:23:48am

There are 10 kinds of people in the world. Those that know binary and those that don't.

1120 Killgore Trout  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 10:23:52am

Why the hell should I feel sorry, says girl soldier who abused Iraqi prisoners at Abu Ghraib prison


In this deeply disturbing interview, the trailer trash torturer who appalled the world by appearing in shocking 'souvenir' photographs remains utterly unrepentant and says she has 800 MORE torture photos that could rock the White House

Yeesh.

1121 Last Mohican  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 10:23:59am

re: #1109 pingjockey

IIRC, that hill was copied from one in one of the 'old' ball parks.

There was more than one old park with such a hill. I just googled this a bit. One was Crosley Field, where the Reds played from 1912 until 1970. There's a nice little discussion of the "terrace," as it was called, on that Wikipedia page. Apparently, in the old parks, the hills were natural features of the terrain that were already there before the parks were built. But the current one in Houston was totally artificial, added because, well, just for lameness' sake. Also, the Houston one is a 30-degree incline, twice that of the terrace at Crosley Field.

1122 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 10:26:05am

re: #1116 Cato the Elder

You're so sure of yourself, one is almost reluctant to burst your bubble.

Illuminati von Dan Brown (German Amazon site)

Originaltitel: Angels and Demons

The Germans and other furriners often change the titles of books if they think they'll sell better than a direct translation.

The "larger point" is that PM is questioning the origin of people's fascination with conspiracy theories. A sellout? If you like. I happen to think it's a good question to ask, especially as people's search for the next apocolyptogasm seems to be intensifying.

It was MARKETED as "Illuminati von Dan Brown." You stated that Angels and Demons was TRANSLATED as "Illuminati." That's not correct. That's the only issue I had with the title and the way you described it.

Thanks for the reply, Bubble Boy. Neener.

1123 lincolntf  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 10:26:08am

I finally got up the energy to hop in the pool. Aaaaahhhh... Of course I felt kind of guilty as my cats sat on the patio staring at me. I wish they could swim.

1124 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 10:26:58am

re: #1123 lincolntf

I finally got up the energy to hop in the pool. Aaaaahhhh... Of course I felt kind of guilty as my cats sat on the patio staring at me. I wish they could swim.

And how is you computer, wet?

1125 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 10:27:48am

re: #1106 jcm

Prom got canceled, the downturn and all. Hardware jockeys and code monkeys, all work and no play.

The company won't chip in for a PROM? Even after you guys voluteered to be bussed rather than taking your own cars?

1126 jcm  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 10:27:54am

re: #1123 lincolntf

I finally got up the energy to hop in the pool. Aaaaahhhh... Of course I felt kind of guilty as my cats sat on the patio staring at me. I wish they could swim.

Cats can swim.

They choose not to.

1127 Cato the Elder  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 10:28:19am

re: #1094 Walter L. Newton

Cato, Angels and Demons" is "Engel und Dämonen" in German. The Dan Brown book is about the ILLUMINATI. I don't think you even know what you are talking about.

I see where your confusion arose. My original comment was "Angels and Demons" is "Illuminati" in German.

To be absolutely precise: [The book] "Angels and Demons" is [sold as] "Illuminati" in German.

Happy now? Next time I'll be sure to spell it out from the start.

1128 Deseeded  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 10:28:53am

re: #1124 Walter L. Newton

And how is you computer, wet?

Probably a Mac. I need to hate on this guy from the state of Mass more. He probably runs a Mac and has pretentious glasses and drinks crappy beer. :D

1129 MandyManners  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 10:29:00am
1130 jcm  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 10:29:03am

re: #1125 pre-Boomer Marine brat

The company won't chip in for a PROM? Even after you guys voluteered to be bussed rather than taking your own cars?

Nope, if we asked again they told us we'd have to ScRAM.

1131 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 10:29:06am

re: #1127 Cato the Elder

I see where your confusion arose. My original comment was "Angels and Demons" is "Illuminati" in German.

To be absolutely precise: [The book] "Angels and Demons" is [sold as] "Illuminati" in German.

Happy now? Next time I'll be sure to spell it out from the start.

That will help, I'm dense. Neener:)

1132 Sharmuta  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 10:29:14am

re: #1120 Killgore Trout

Hey- check your email.

1133 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 10:29:50am

Well, the man did learn his politics in Chicago where a riot or two is a pro forma thing:

Obama "excited" by Iran's robust election debate
Fri Jun 12, 2009 1:42pm EDT
By David Alexander

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - President Barack Obama said on Friday he was hopeful the robust debate taking place in Iran's presidential election would advance his administration's efforts to engage longtime U.S. rival Tehran in new ways.

"We are excited to see what appears to be a robust debate taking place in Iran," Obama told reporters when asked about the Iranian election during an event at the White House.

"Whoever ends up winning the election in Iran, the fact there has been a robust debate hopefully will advance our ability to engage them in new ways," he said.

1134 poteen  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 10:30:24am

re: #1129 MandyManners

She's a sociopath.

Bill Clinton would.do her.

1135 lincolntf  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 10:30:36am

re: #1117 Deseeded

Hey Deseeded, how's it hanging?
Those were the good old days when Rocco, Sven, and whoever the other kooks/ Libs were on WNL would get all foamy and agitated just at the sight of my screenname. Good times...

1136 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 10:30:45am

re: #1128 Deseeded

Probably a Mac. I need to hate on this guy from the state of Mass more. He probably runs a Mac and has pretentious glasses and drinks crappy beer. :D

Well, you're wrong on all accounts, but I'll let him tell you if he wants. And please, don't bring your arguments into my comments by riding on my comments like that.

Got it?

1137 Sharmuta  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 10:31:55am

Video from Tehran

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

1138 Cathypop  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 10:32:11am

re: #1123 lincolntf

I finally got up the energy to hop in the pool. Aaaaahhhh... Of course I felt kind of guilty as my cats sat on the patio staring at me. I wish they could swim.


Cats can swim. They just hate to be thrown into pools.

1139 poteen  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 10:32:16am

re: #1129 MandyManners

Hey MM. Looks like Charles' experiment dragging LGF to the left didn't take yesterday.

1140 Deseeded  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 10:32:25am

re: #1133 FurryOldGuyJeans

By politics alone, Obama would be happy if Kodos (Simpsons) was in power because it means no change and no happiness but a lot of pyramid building for Ahmadinejad. :)

1141 Last Mohican  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 10:32:41am

re: #1134 poteen

Bill Clinton would.do her.

He's also a sociopath.

Actually, my tentative diagnosis is that he's a sociopath, and she's a psychopath.

1142 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 10:33:21am

re: #1126 jcm

Cats can swim.

They choose not to.

Growing up we had a cat that demanded on taking baths or showers with people. She would HOWL if she wasn't allowed to get dripping wet, and then run all over the house.

1143 Deseeded  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 10:33:26am

re: #1136 Walter L. Newton

Well, you're wrong on all accounts, but I'll let him tell you if he wants. And please, don't bring your arguments into my comments by riding on my comments like that.

Got it?

Got it good, man.

1144 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 10:33:27am

re: #1130 jcm

Nope, if we asked again they told us we'd have to ScRAM.

I see. I assumed you'd be gone in a flash.

1145 BlueCanuck  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 10:33:39am

re: #1133 FurryOldGuyJeans

"Whoever ends up winning the election in Iran, the fact there has been a robust debate hopefully will advance our ability to engage them in new ways," he said.

Engage them in new ways? Well all we have done is talk and send strongly worded letters. What other way is there to engage them? Bended knee?

1146 Dark_Falcon  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 10:33:48am

re: #1133 FurryOldGuyJeans

Well, the man did learn his politics in Chicago where a riot or two is a pro forma thing:

Obama "excited" by Iran's robust election debate
Fri Jun 12, 2009 1:42pm EDT
By David Alexander

Chicago election refrain in 1924:

"Who'll carry the 42nd and 43rd Wards?

O'Bannion, in his pistol pockets!"

(Dean O'Bannion was the head of the North Side Gang at the time, and one the city's biggest bootleggers)

1147 MandyManners  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 10:34:01am

re: #1133 FurryOldGuyJeans

Well, the man did learn his politics in Chicago where a riot or two is a pro forma thing:

Obama "excited" by Iran's robust election debate
Fri Jun 12, 2009 1:42pm EDT
By David Alexander

"Whoever ends up winning the election in Iran, the fact there has been a robust debate hopefully will advance our ability to engage them in new ways," he said.

Fucking narcissist.

1148 irongrampa  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 10:34:55am

re: #1123 lincolntf

They CAN swim, you realize.


Just sayin.....

1149 MandyManners  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 10:34:58am

re: #1134 poteen

Bill Clinton would.do her.

If I were a man I wouldn't put my wahoo anywhere near her.

1150 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 10:35:28am

re: #1147 MandyManners

"Whoever ends up winning the election in Iran, the fact there has been a robust debate hopefully will advance our ability to engage them in new ways," he said.

Fucking narcissist.

The only "new" way we haven't tried is a military option.

1151 Sharmuta  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 10:35:38am

re: #1137 Sharmuta

Video from Tehran

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

They are chanting "we want freedom!"

1152 Pvt Bin Jammin  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 10:35:55am

Good morning, lizards. Arrgh, I am in a mood today. Getting the blue screen error on my computer on a regular basis now, ever since an update. Not only that but the little tv in my computer room isn't on cable like the rest of the house. This HDTV crap sucks. I can't get CBS or ABC and have a humming sound on all of the other channels.

1153 MandyManners  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 10:35:57am

re: #1139 poteen

Huh?

1154 Sharmuta  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 10:36:03am

That gave me chills.

1155 haakondahl  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 10:36:09am

re: #981 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Just posted in the spin-offs.

An OpEd in Pakistan's Dawn:


There are those who get it -- possibly more of them than we're inclined to realize.

Speaking from Afghanistan, I can tell you that is absolutely correct. nevermind Islam--this is a war between the decent and the savage, and we continue to be surprised by who is really on which side, every damned day.

1156 cygnus  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 10:37:16am

re: #1142 FurryOldGuyJeans

Growing up we had a cat that demanded on taking baths or showers with people. She would HOWL if she wasn't allowed to get dripping wet, and then run all over the house.

That's amazing. My kitty likes to drink from the bathroom sink, but will then carefully wipe his paws to remove even the tiniest drop of water.

1157 Deseeded  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 10:37:22am

re: #1147 MandyManners

"Whoever ends up winning the election in Iran, the fact there has been a robust debate hopefully will advance our ability to engage them in new ways," he said.

Fucking narcissist.

In my Frosh English class in college we had to read a piece called "Narcissism Is Necessary". The engineers in class with me all wrote contrary theses to that book. It was a good exercise to understand the failings of a culture that moves to identity over substance....the engineers were the only ones that got good grades....I think our Prof was on the right path! :D

1158 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 10:37:30am

re: #1147 MandyManners

"Whoever ends up winning the election in Iran, the fact there has been a robust debate hopefully will advance our ability to engage them in new ways," he said.

Fucking narcissist.

He should try having a robust debate with some of the Baseej who (cough cough) "went to the polls".

1159 Last Mohican  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 10:37:34am

re: #1147 MandyManners

"Whoever ends up winning the election in Iran, the fact there has been a robust debate hopefully will advance our ability to engage them in new ways," he said.

Fucking narcissist.

I was stunned by that quote too. His connection with reality really is quite weak. It would be just as reasonable to say "Whoever ends up winning the Stanley Cup, the fact that there has been a robust competition hopefully will advance our ability to engage Iran in new ways."

1160 lincolntf  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 10:37:59am

re: #1148 irongrampa

That seems to be the general consensus, but I've only ever known one cat that actually did swim (little runt named Motormouth that my aunt had).
My female cat fell in the pool last year and sank like a stone. I jumped over the side to get her before anything happened but she wasn't really swimming. It was like she was trying to, but her legs were to scrawny to propel her to the surface. My older male cat sits on the edge sometimes and I just know he's contemplating a dip.

1161 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 10:38:33am

re: #1152 Pvt Bin Jammin

Good morning, lizards. Arrgh, I am in a mood today. Getting the blue screen error on my computer on a regular basis now, ever since an update. Not only that but the little tv in my computer room isn't on cable like the rest of the house. This HDTV crap sucks. I can't get CBS or ABC and have a humming sound on all of the other channels.

Funny, I took the Microsoft update push this week, and something keeps turning off McAfee SystemGaurd, from a automatic start setting to a manual start setting, and I know of one other person who is having issues with XP since the push this week.

And in the past, McAfee said that the problem was something that Microsoft was doing in upgrades. And that was a year ago, now the problem has returned.

What kind of crap did they hand us.

1162 haakondahl  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 10:38:46am

re: #1142 FurryOldGuyJeans

Growing up we had a cat that demanded on taking baths or showers with people. She would HOWL if she wasn't allowed to get dripping wet, and then run all over the house.

pssst. that was a dog.

1163 MandyManners  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 10:39:02am

re: #1157 Deseeded

In my Frosh English class in college we had to read a piece called "Narcissism Is Necessary". The engineers in class with me all wrote contrary theses to that book. It was a good exercise to understand the failings of a culture that moves to identity over substance....the engineers were the only ones that got good grades....I think our Prof was on the right path! :D

Have you ever heard of Lasch's Culture of Narcissism?

1164 [deleted]  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 10:39:30am
1165 Killgore Trout  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 10:39:44am

re: #1129 MandyManners

I couldn't read the whole thing. I thought she was still in jail.

1166 jcm  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 10:39:59am

re: #1144 pre-Boomer Marine brat

I see. I assumed you'd be gone in a flash.

If I was volatile I might, but I'm non.

1167 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 10:40:38am

re: #1164 taxfreekiller

People of Iran who can read lgf's.

Use your crops and or how you plow the fields to make arrows pointing to the locations of the nuke stuff, no need of them being real close, just make an arrow in any field pointing to any nuke facility you know about, our National Security Agency satellites will be able to map the locations from that, the RG's can not deal with every little field in Iran, and they can not make enough fake arrows to foil the deal.

Then once we get a good real American back in as Pres. we can send the mullas info that we know where the nuke stuff is and will bomb it
unless they allow you to have fair and open elections. Then if you in fact do vote them back in via a fair and open election and still build
nukes ,,,and work with the crazy loon in N. Korea, the final deal will not be of our choosing, yours.

Like that.

Welcome to the 21st century. I suspect we know exactly where their nukes are.

1168 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 10:41:14am

re: #1162 haakondahl

pssst. that was a dog.

No, it was a cat. Dogs don't shred your lap with their claws.

1169 Deseeded  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 10:41:18am

re: #1163 MandyManners

Have you ever heard of Lasch's Culture of Narcissism?

I have not! Is it telling? I may want to pick it up.

1170 Cato the Elder  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 10:41:26am

Some will shoot the messenger, some will scorn the source, but Paul Krugman yesterday nailed the problem with the GOP's mainstreaming of irrational nutbag extremism:

The Big Hate

Last line, for the impatient: Politicians and media organizations wind up such people at their, and our, peril.

Warning: NYT link, NSFW if you work for Fox

1171 haakondahl  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 10:41:31am

re: #1152 Pvt Bin Jammin

Good morning, lizards. Arrgh, I am in a mood today. Getting the blue screen error on my computer on a regular basis now, ever since an update. Not only that but the little tv in my computer room isn't on cable like the rest of the house. This HDTV crap sucks. I can't get CBS or ABC and have a humming sound on all of the other channels.

pssst. that humming sound *is* CBS

1172 Kronocide  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 10:42:01am

re: #1120 Killgore Trout

Stay classy Lynddie!

1173 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 10:42:25am

re: #1166 jcm

If I was volatile I might, but I'm non.

*muttering*
(how th' heck do ya' make TTL into teetotaler?!?!?)

1174 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 10:43:27am

Eeep! 10,000 karma!

*faints*

1175 poteen  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 10:43:27am

re: #1153 MandyManners

He moved the content to the left of the page. Hence the pun. You were logged in then, weren't you? If not , I'm sorry.

1176 Sharmuta  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 10:43:38am

re: #1171 haakondahl

pssst. that humming sound *is* CBS

LMAO!

Seriously, PBJ- try the hotline.

1177 lincolntf  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 10:43:47am

re: #1170 Cato the Elder

"Last line, for the impatient: Politicians and media organizations wind up such people at their, and our, peril."

Absolutely true. If politicians and the media hadn't spent years deriding our soldiers as torturers and occupiers, Pvt. Long might still be alive today.

1178 Deseeded  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 10:45:13am

re: #1167 Walter L. Newton

BTW, didn't mean to hijack. I have been a friend of lincolntf for awhile. He was a good debater here in the Mass area and I'm really happy he's here on LGF. I told him about back in 07 and he had missed the registrations. Great mind and always debating! :D

I haven't met up with link for a couple years now as he moved to NC. Probably the best thing he ever did in Mass!

-IF anyone needs a Bioprocess Engineer in NC, SC, TX let me know! I can move! :D

1179 Killgore Trout  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 10:45:36am

re: #1170 Cato the Elder


What will the consequences be? Nobody knows, of course, although the analysts at Homeland Security fretted that things may turn out even worse than in the 1990s — that thanks, in part, to the election of an African-American president, “the threat posed by lone wolves and small terrorist cells is more pronounced than in past years.”

And that’s a threat to take seriously. Yes, the worst terrorist attack in our history was perpetrated by a foreign conspiracy. But the second worst, the Oklahoma City bombing, was perpetrated by an all-American lunatic. Politicians and media organizations wind up such people at their, and our, peril.


It's tough to judge but I'd say things are far worse than the Clinton area. I'm still coming to grips with how quickly the evolution into dangerous conspiracy nuts has happened. I don't see any signs that this progression is slowing. Things are getting dangerous.

1180 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 10:45:47am

re: #1174 FurryOldGuyJeans

Eeep! 10,000 karma!

*faints*

Nice to see that you completed a 10K run.
/and at YOUR age, too!

1181 FrogMarch  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 10:45:50am

re: #1172 BigPapa

Stay classy Lynddie!

Really. Because of her actions, America suffered. Her actions were not only wrong - they were a gift to the left. The left who so desperate
for any defeating "see I told you so" moment they could find.

1182 irongrampa  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 10:45:51am

Can't understand the preoccupation with DESTROYING Iran's nuke sites. Certainly a good idea, but denying ACCESS would work as well. imho.

If we were really serious, Iran would be blockaded-nothing going in or out. That, plus disabling their electrical grid and refinery capacity would likelycripple Iran fatally within months, if not sooner. Easily done, on our part.

1183 Cato the Elder  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 10:46:30am

re: #1168 FurryOldGuyJeans

No, it was a cat. Dogs don't shred your lap with their claws.

LOL. That depends on what you're trying to do with the dog in your lap.

1184 reine.de.tout  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 10:46:47am

re: #1174 FurryOldGuyJeans

Eeep! 10,000 karma!

*faints*


Heh.
.

I went over 10,000 myself sometime recently and did even see it happen.

1185 Pvt Bin Jammin  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 10:47:50am

re: #1161 Walter L. Newton

Funny, I took the Microsoft update push this week, and something keeps turning off McAfee SystemGaurd, from a automatic start setting to a manual start setting, and I know of one other person who is having issues with XP since the push this week.

And in the past, McAfee said that the problem was something that Microsoft was doing in upgrades. And that was a year ago, now the problem has returned.

What kind of crap did they hand us.

I don't know but I just got the blue screen again. Trying to report the error and it isn't even connecting to the microsoft server this time.

If I disappear from LGF, lizards, it's not that I don't like you. LOL

1186 Kronocide  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 10:48:00am

re: #1184 reine.de.tout

IN Liberian dollars I'm over 10,000,000 Karma.

1187 KenJen  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 10:48:15am

re: #1177 lincolntf

"Last line, for the impatient: Politicians and media organizations wind up such people at their, and our, peril."

Absolutely true. If politicians and the media hadn't spent years deriding our soldiers as torturers and occupiers, Pvt. Long might still be alive today.

Yes, but dont forget that if the DHS was doing their job Pvt.Long might still be alive today. I hold them most responsible.

1188 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 10:48:33am

re: #1180 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Nice to see that you completed a 10K run.
/and at YOUR age, too!

I got tired just THINKING about doing a run like that. It would be a 3 fortnight run with me and my walker. :Þ

1189 FrogMarch  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 10:48:39am

State Run Media Slams Palin for Defending Her 14 Year-Old Daughter

Yahoo editorializes and calls Palin "Awkward".

I wonder if Yahoo would ever say that about any democrat? I think not.

1190 Cato the Elder  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 10:48:50am

re: #1185 Pvt Bin Jammin

I don't know but I just got the blue screen again. Trying to report the error and it isn't even connecting to the microsoft server this time.

If I disappear from LGF, lizards, it's not that I don't like you. LOL

One of my Facebook pals reports that the new MS update crashes Firefox.

1191 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 10:49:44am

re: #1178 Deseeded

BTW, didn't mean to hijack. I have been a friend of lincolntf for awhile. He was a good debater here in the Mass area and I'm really happy he's here on LGF. I told him about back in 07 and he had missed the registrations. Great mind and always debating! :D

I haven't met up with link for a couple years now as he moved to NC. Probably the best thing he ever did in Mass!

-IF anyone needs a Bioprocess Engineer in NC, SC, TX let me know! I can move! :D

Got it. I realized that AFTER my post, when you posted to lincolntf. No problem :)

1192 reine.de.tout  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 10:50:26am

re: #1186 BigPapa

IN Liberian dollars I'm over 10,000,000 Karma.

Ha.
I got one of those e-mails the other day, addressed simply to "Dear e-mail onwer".

1193 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 10:50:29am

Israel stands alone....is that really a big surprise?

Israeli officials: Iran vote shows growing threat
By KARIN LAUB – 5 hours ago

JERUSALEM (AP) — The apparent re-election of hardline Iranian President Mahmoud Ahmadinejad underscores the growing threat posed by Tehran and its nuclear ambitions, two senior Israeli politicians said Saturday, urging the world not to engage in dialogue with Iran.

However, Deputy Foreign Minister Danny Ayalon and Vice Premier Silvan Shalom expressed their personal views and not those of the Israeli government, said government spokesman Mark Regev. He said it was not clear when the Israeli government would make a formal statement.

Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu has argued that Iran's nuclear ambitions, not Israel's conflict with the Palestinians, should occupy the world's attention.

Friction has been growing between Israel and the U.S. over Netanyahu's refusal to endorse the idea of Palestinian statehood and a settlement freeze, as sought by the Obama administration.

Netanyahu is to deliver a major policy speech Sunday to clarify his positions. An election victory by hardliners in Iran could strengthen his argument.

1194 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 10:50:36am

re: #1188 FurryOldGuyJeans

It would be a 3 fortnight run ... my walker. :Þ

Not furlong.

/heh, me too

1195 Pvt Bin Jammin  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 10:50:57am

re: #1171 haakondahl

Heh. I am not getting See BS in at all and rescanned again this morning.re: #1176 Sharmuta

Thanks, Sharm. I might just have to do that. Maybe tomorrow.

1196 slokat  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 10:51:56am

re: #1190 Cato the Elder

One of my Facebook pals reports that the new MS update crashes Firefox.

Firefox did an automatic update yesterday, I'm having no problems with Firefox and/or XP

1197 jcm  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 10:52:01am

re: #1173 pre-Boomer Marine brat

*muttering*
(how th' heck do ya' make TTL into teetotaler?!?!?)

When you TTL is 12 hops you don't have time?

1198 Deseeded  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 10:52:39am

re: #1191 Walter L. Newton

Got it. I realized that AFTER my post, when you posted to lincolntf. No problem :)

Haha! phew! Coldest summer in New England in a long time. I can't even take my hot peppers out to the garden yet and my cucumbers are very upset. Who's protesting the extraordinary heats now? :D

1199 Sharmuta  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 10:52:54am

re: #1195 Pvt Bin Jammin

As for your computer- have you thought about resetting it with "system restore" to a day before the updates?

1200 Pvt Bin Jammin  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 10:52:54am

re: #1190 Cato the Elder

One of my Facebook pals reports that the new MS update crashes Firefox.

I do use Firefox.

1201 Kronocide  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 10:52:57am

re: #1189 FrogMarch

That's pretty despicable. Nice pick of Palin, she looks fired up. Go Girl!

1202 jcm  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 10:52:57am

re: #1196 slokat

Firefox did an automatic update yesterday, I'm having no problems with Firefox and/or XP

I did XP critical updates at work yesterday, bogged my machine down. Probably do a roll back on Monday.

1203 MandyManners  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 10:53:05am

re: #1195 Pvt Bin Jammin

SHOOT YER COMPUTER!

1204 jcm  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 10:54:23am

re: #1200 Pvt Bin Jammin

I do use Firefox.

re: #1202 jcm

I did XP critical updates at work yesterday, bogged my machine down. Probably do a roll back on Monday.

The bog down after the update was FF using 50-60% CPU, my CAD program can hit 80-90 when rendering or or tasks.

1205 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 10:54:41am

Ayatollah Ali Khamenei ... urged the nation to unite behind Ahmadinejad, calling the result a "divine assessment."

We're most definitely NOT in Kansas, Toto.

1206 Deseeded  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 10:55:09am

re: #685 Killgore Trout

fuck you.

Got up because it's fun! :D

Kilgore, hi!

1207 Cato the Elder  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 10:55:51am

re: #1192 reine.de.tout

Ha.
I got one of those e-mails the other day, addressed simply to "Dear e-mail onwer".

I put an offer of services up on my local Craigslist a while back.

The only non-pr0n responses I got were a couple of African-based translation scams.

Never, ever saw one of those before in 25 years as a professional dragoman.

1208 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 10:56:19am

re: #1202 jcm

I did XP critical updates at work yesterday, bogged my machine down. Probably do a roll back on Monday.

At times I am grateful I still am running 98SE. M$ chose to not screw it up any more. ;)

1209 lincolntf  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 10:56:28am

re: #1178 Deseeded

Are you out of work up there? The Research Triangle (and a few other "bio-tech-zones") down here in NC are always ranked as one of the best places for people in your (general) field to get jobs. Of course, I don't know if the economy has trashed that conventional wisdom.
Playing any softball this year?

1210 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 10:56:37am

re: #1197 jcm

When you TTL is 12 hops you don't have time?

OUCH!
*muttering*
(Damn, th' &@^#% just took a byte outta me!)

1211 jcm  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 10:57:47am

re: #1208 FurryOldGuyJeans

At times I am grateful I still am running 98SE. M$ chose to not screw it up any more. ;)

You should try this one, I hear it's rock solid.

1212 Deseeded  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 10:58:23am

re: #683 Lincolntf

Heh. If Killgore retracted every one of his posts that turned out to be misleading he'd have another 10,000 posts to his name.

Haha, you certainly don't shy away from controversy! Ahahaha! I was really angry after that pod cast we did...and they never published it everywhere because of how critical it was to the Dems in MA. Stardawg was so pissed at you! I chalked that up to a good victory for Link! :D

1213 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 10:58:53am

re: #1190 Cato the Elder

One of my Facebook pals reports that the new MS update crashes Firefox.

Well, the new updates this week from MS certainly turned off McAfee Systemguards, which monitors unauthorized changes to your system, which I suspect that MS had to turn off to install the upgrades, BUT, now I can't keep Systemguards to stay on in the "automatic" start mode. And twice it has disabled itself all together. I'm monitoring the status in "services."

And I know of someone who has had some new problems this week, AFTER the update push.

I suspect we will be hearing more about this.

1214 debutaunt  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 10:59:00am

re: #1203 MandyManners

SHOOT YER COMPUTER!

Where are the 'toodles' located?

1215 ErnieG  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 10:59:30am

re: #1190 Cato the Elder

One of my Facebook pals reports that the new MS update crashes Firefox.

Reminds me of the old saying, "Windows Ain't Done 'til Lotus Won't Run."

1216 Last Mohican  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 11:00:07am

re: #1205 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Ayatollah Ali Khamenei ... urged the nation to unite behind Ahmadinejad, calling the result a "divine assessment."

We're most definitely NOT in Kansas, Toto.

Well no, but we could almost be in Virginia. That's where, on October 22, 2008, Obama told his supporters "I feel like we got a righteous wind at our backs here."

Rule of thumb: when a politician claims to be God's candidate, vote for the other one.

1217 MandyManners  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 11:00:39am

re: #1214 debutaunt

Where are the 'toodles' located?

Is that code for testicles?

1218 lincolntf  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 11:01:14am

re: #1212 Deseeded

Oh shit, I remember that. That was hilarious. Nobody there had ever met me before and they were like "WTF is up with this guy?".
I think Stardawg actually thought about throwing punches when we were outside. Memory is a bit hazy but I do remember having a blast.
Of course they never broadcast it, the dweebs.

1219 jcm  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 11:01:54am

re: #1205 pre-Boomer Marine brat

Ayatollah Ali Khamenei ... urged the nation to unite behind Ahmadinejad, calling the result a "divine assessment."

We're most definitely NOT in Kansas, Toto.

Divine my ass.....
The Mad Mullahs counted the ballots in Qom.

1220 Deseeded  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 11:02:04am

re: #1217 MandyManners

Is that code for testicles?

Well if that were the case, every lizard has like seven toodles!

1221 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 11:02:08am

re: #1216 Last Mohican

Well no, but we could almost be in Virginia. That's where, on October 22, 2008, Obama told his supporters "I feel like we got a righteous wind at our backs here."

Rule of thumb: when a politician claims to be God's candidate, vote for the other one.

Amen ... urp ... I mean, you're exactly right!

1222 debutaunt  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 11:02:38am

re: #1217 MandyManners

Is that code for testicles?

That video is hilarious!

1223 bbcrackmonkey  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 11:03:08am

I am so goddamned furious right now.

The Iranian people were robbed blind last night.

It was so blatant. Mahmoud by 2/3 majority? It's ridiculous. Preposterous. If Mahmoud had that many supporters they would be celebrating instead of rioting like they are now. The Election board approved by all four candidates to monitor the election has determined this election to be a fraud and will not accept the results.

There were massive voter irregularities and the phony statistics show Dinnerjacket winning Mousavi's own home province by a good margin. This is obviously rigged by the Revolutionary Guards and SCIRI to keep the IRG military industrial complex and the clerical fascists in power.

1224 pre-Boomer Marine brat  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 11:04:10am

re: #1219 jcm

Divine my ass.....
The Mad Mullahs counted the ballots in Qom.

Why do I suspect that's why they call th' blankety-blank thing, the Expediency Council?

1225 Pvt Bin Jammin  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 11:04:39am

re: #1203 MandyManners

SHOOT YER COMPUTER!

I am about ready to. LOL Blued out again so I am back here on IE6! We'll see what happens.

1226 FurryOldGuyJeans  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 11:05:01am

re: #1211 jcm

You should try this one, I hear it's rock solid.

I did try it back when I was working at CompUSA and going to trade shows. Got a free copy of ME at some shindig M$ was hosting that I installed on my computer, which promptly broke every software program on the thing, even M$ products. I also got Win2K that I never could get to install with my current hardware.

I have noticed that upgrading a Windows-based OS is usually nothing but problematical. I know several people who had ME preinstalled on new PCs and they never had a problem that was not hardware related or their own fault with installing some shi'ite software.

1227 Cato the Elder  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 11:05:03am

re: #1213 Walter L. Newton

Well, the new updates this week from MS certainly turned off McAfee Systemguards, which monitors unauthorized changes to your system, which I suspect that MS had to turn off to install the upgrades, BUT, now I can't keep Systemguards to stay on in the "automatic" start mode. And twice it has disabled itself all together. I'm monitoring the status in "services."

And I know of someone who has had some new problems this week, AFTER the update push.

I suspect we will be hearing more about this.

Just can't wait to see how MS will kowtow to the Chinese and work overtime to make sure their OS plays nice with "Green Dam", the commie-government-mandated "parental control" program that doubles as Big Brother spyware.

Apparently "Green Dam" is also eminently hackable by non-commie-government persons, putting every computer purchased in China after July 1 at high risk for botfarming.

The response of the West's software and hardware manufacturers who want to sell in China has been, shall we say, muted. [Read: They would do the same thing here if asked.]

1228 MandyManners  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 11:05:11am

FREETOWN (Reuters) – Police in Sierra Leone have called in the army and fire brigade to try to take back control of a police station which has been overrun by hundreds of venomous snakes.

Snake charmers have tried in vain to lure the beasts, mostly cobras and vipers, out of Gerihun police station in the southern district of Bo. Attempts to smoke them out also failed.

Officers and residents wanting to report crimes have grown too afraid to come to the building.

"Even during work time when statements are being taken, these snakes can come out in dozens. Inhabitants have found it difficult to report cases to the police," station spokesman Brima Kota said.

SNIP

1229 Walter L. Newton  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 11:05:36am

re: #1223 bbcrackmonkey

I am so goddamned furious right now.

The Iranian people were robbed blind last night.

It was so blatant. Mahmoud by 2/3 majority? It's ridiculous. Preposterous. If Mahmoud had that many supporters they would be celebrating instead of rioting like they are now. The Election board approved by all four candidates to monitor the election has determined this election to be a fraud and will not accept the results.

There were massive voter irregularities and the phony statistics show Dinnerjacket winning Mousavi's own home province by a good margin. This is obviously rigged by the Revolutionary Guards and SCIRI to keep the IRG military industrial complex and the clerical fascists in power.

Whew. What was you r first clue? :)

1230 itellu3times  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 11:06:05am

re: #1223 bbcrackmonkey

Has Jimmy blessed it yet?

1231 debutaunt  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 11:06:54am

re: #1229 Walter L. Newton

Iranian Acorns.

1232 jcm  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 11:11:58am

re: #1226 FurryOldGuyJeans

I did try it back when I was working at CompUSA and going to trade shows. Got a free copy of ME at some shindig M$ was hosting that I installed on my computer, which promptly broke every software program on the thing, even M$ products. I also got Win2K that I never could get to install with my current hardware.

I have noticed that upgrading a Windows-based OS is usually nothing but problematical. I know several people who had ME preinstalled on new PCs and they never had a problem that was not hardware related or their own fault with installing some shi'ite software.

NT was a joy to install, real driver issue. You had to exactly the right driver or it'd BSOD on you. But once it was up and running, it was solid, till you added something.

XP is pretty good, I drive my XP system at work pretty hard and don't have many issues.

I also have a Vista install, and it's been pretty good other than it's wireless sucks. Vista needs major horsepower to run decently, way above what MS calls the mins.

1233 bungie  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 11:14:20am

I don't have a lot of time to post or read here, but I'm out there talking to a lot of people, and I hear a lot of minorities talking about Obama. This week I've been hearing all sorts of anti-Obama stuff. Curiously, no one seems to like his interfering with corporate salaries! This from people earning less than $35,000 a year! Why? I was told, "He's killing the American dream." This from an Hispanic mom of four from L.A.

I'm thinking her plan all along was for these kids of hers to be getting one of those corporate salaries someday. . . .

1234 jcm  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 11:14:50am

re: #1223 bbcrackmonkey

I am so goddamned furious right now.

The Iranian people were robbed blind last night.

It was so blatant. Mahmoud by 2/3 majority? It's ridiculous. Preposterous. If Mahmoud had that many supporters they would be celebrating instead of rioting like they are now. The Election board approved by all four candidates to monitor the election has determined this election to be a fraud and will not accept the results.

There were massive voter irregularities and the phony statistics show Dinnerjacket winning Mousavi's own home province by a good margin. This is obviously rigged by the Revolutionary Guards and SCIRI to keep the IRG military industrial complex and the clerical fascists in power.

The Iranian people were robbed when the worthless POS Rabbit Bait pulled the rug out from under the Shah and greenlighted the "Saint" (Bait's emissary who met Khomeini words) to take over.

1235 haakondahl  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 11:15:31am

From that moronic Palin/Letterman article on Yahoo:

[Letterman] jokes about all politicians but it's becoming clearer where his sympathies lie — something that Palin and her supporters sensed in their criticisms.

Found that with both hands, did you?

1236 Deseeded  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 11:19:38am

re: #1209 lincolntf

Nope, I'm employed but feeling really squished. The resume is out and I'd like to travel and sell biomedical devices.

The last two years we had salaries stopped and no promotions....feeling like I'd get stuck in my current process engineer role.

1237 jcm  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 11:20:01am

re: #1235 haakondahl

From that moronic Palin/Letterman article on Yahoo:

Found that with both hands, did you?

But somebody had to hold the flashlight....

1238 debutaunt  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 11:22:49am

re: #1235 haakondahl

From that moronic Palin/Letterman article on Yahoo:


Found that with both hands, did you?

Letterman is loaded with incisive, snarky jokes about Obama - you just wait and see how he mocks Michelle and the kids.

1239 jcm  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 11:23:00am

re: #1236 Deseeded

Nope, I'm employed but feeling really squished. The resume is out and I'd like to travel and sell biomedical devices.

The last two years we had salaries stopped and no promotions....feeling like I'd get stuck in my current process engineer role.

We're replacing and adding a few Test and Product engineers, a couple new products are in the pipe which will increase our head count.

1240 SurferDoc  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 11:23:30am

re: #1226 FurryOldGuyJeans

I did try it back when I was working at CompUSA and going to trade shows. Got a free copy of ME at some shindig M$ was hosting that I installed on my computer, which promptly broke every software program on the thing, even M$ products. I also got Win2K that I never could get to install with my current hardware.

I have noticed that upgrading a Windows-based OS is usually nothing but problematical. I know several people who had ME preinstalled on new PCs and they never had a problem that was not hardware related or their own fault with installing some shi'ite software.

I had a 'special edition' of ME from COMPUSA that I ran on one computer for years without any problems.

1241 Deseeded  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 11:29:16am

re: #1239 jcm

Wow, thanks, j, but do you think a Chem Process Eng can fit there? Looks like a lot of EEs and such. Love to take this offline of you think there is a need for Statistics and DOE. :)

1242 jcm  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 11:29:53am

re: #1241 Deseeded

Wow, thanks, j, but do you think a Chem Process Eng can fit there? Looks like a lot of EEs and such. Love to take this offline of you think there is a need for Statistics and DOE. :)

We have a Fab in MN, chem processes there.

1243 Deseeded  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 11:31:17am

re: #1242 jcm

We have a Fab in MN, chem processes there.

Will send you my resume. Thank you!

1244 jcm  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 11:31:18am

re: #1242 jcm

We have a Fab in MN, chem processes there.


A PE with a chem process background could hurt, PE manages a product line, we stuff happens in the fab sometimes our EE's are lost.

1245 jcm  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 11:32:34am

re: #1244 jcm

A PE with a chem process background could hurt, PE manages a product line, we stuff happens in the fab sometimes our EE's are lost.

couldn't hurt... PIMF

1246 Deseeded  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 11:33:38am

re: #1244 jcm

A PE with a chem process background could hurt, PE manages a product line, we stuff happens in the fab sometimes our EE's are lost.

Wait, your site has no link to an email...

I have an account at lex.lesotho@gmail.com for you to send info to. I will send it from my real email. :D

Can't be too careful these days.

1247 jcm  Sat, Jun 13, 2009 11:40:11am

re: #1246 Deseeded

Wait, your site has no link to an email...

I have an account at lex.lesotho@gmail.com for you to send info to. I will send it from my real email. :D

Can't be too careful these days.

Better yet, my nic is email blue, click it send it and I'll pass it around.

1248 Pass The Moonbaticide  Sun, Jun 14, 2009 4:44:50am

TEST :

Nene1 , If you're online , please reply on this thread.

1249 Nene1  Sun, Jun 14, 2009 4:45:48am

re: #1248 Pass The Moonbaticide

Test: It works you are a nut.


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