In today’s episode of “It’s Paleo Pat,” Pat Buchanan launches into a charming rant:
And frankly, I will say it … Bibi Netanyahu wants the United States to polish off Iran, he calls them the ‘worst regime on Earth’ … I mean, uh, Pipes! … a neocon, comes out and says ‘I want Ahmadinejad to win!’ I mean, why do they want him … they want a confrontation!
(Hat tip: Mere Rhetoric.)
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zombie Mon, Jun 22, 2009 11:40:55am |
What a nut. The MSM only gives him a platform in order to discredit the right.
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Walter L. Newton Mon, Jun 22, 2009 11:40:59am |
Well, I'm sure if Pat said it, then he speaks for ALL conservatives. Not.///
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Kenneth Mon, Jun 22, 2009 11:43:01am |
Will somebody please take Buchanan's microphone away?
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Nevergiveup Mon, Jun 22, 2009 11:43:03am |
I hate that anti-semite Buchanan but I said on a past thread that Bibi should have kept his big fat trap shut.
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Kosh's Shadow Mon, Jun 22, 2009 11:43:56am |
Buchanan's 15 minutes of fame should have ended years ago.
He and various Grand Dragons should be drinking somewhere, whining that nobody pays them any attention any more.
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Kosh's Shadow Mon, Jun 22, 2009 11:44:21am |
re: #1 zombie
What a nut. The MSM only gives him a platform in order to discredit the right.
You got it.
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King of the Douche, now you may bow Mon, Jun 22, 2009 11:44:58am |
Hey Pat, tell me the name of the girl dying on tape. Can you? Then piss up a rope mother fucker. Fuck that guy pisses me off.
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zombie Mon, Jun 22, 2009 11:46:01am |
re: #3 Sharmuta
pat buchanan need to stfu.
That's the whole problem. The networks won't let him shut up -- they gleefully give him the microphone as often as possible, so that he fulfills his role of making the "right wing" of American politics look demented. And, since Pat doesn't realize that every time he speaks he makes everyone around him embarrassed, he gladly grabs the mike and starts ranting. He'll never STFU. We can only hope that someone merely yanks away the soapbox from under his feet so we can stop listening to him.
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Gang of One Mon, Jun 22, 2009 11:46:34am |
And to think I used to enjoy listening to Sean Hannity before he became shrill and kept giving Buchanan a platform.
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Sharmuta Mon, Jun 22, 2009 11:47:08am |
This asshole is actually helping the iranian regime spreading this kind of propaganda. It's da joos! Kookspiracy! Why in the world he's allowed on television is beyond me.
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jcm Mon, Jun 22, 2009 11:47:32am |
re: #4 Kenneth
Will somebody please take Buchanan's microphone away?
And put it where the sun don't shine.....
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DaddyG Mon, Jun 22, 2009 11:48:20am |
Not all conservitives are dumb neandrathols, we just can't keep the stupidest of us off of the television.
(stolen from Jeff Foxworthy)
Woo Hoo two more and I've hit Karma 4000!
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Nevergiveup Mon, Jun 22, 2009 11:48:32am |
MSNBC--gee I can't get that on Fios? What a shame.
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Walter L. Newton Mon, Jun 22, 2009 11:49:15am |
OT - (But I found something someone may want)
I don't remember who in the last thread above was saying that the book "A Year in Treblinka" is out of print (I got a copy 5 years ago), but, here it is online... free...
[Link: www.zchor.org...]
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Dianna Mon, Jun 22, 2009 11:49:16am |
re: #1 zombie
What a nut. The MSM only gives him a platform in order to discredit the right.
And it works.
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hazzyday Mon, Jun 22, 2009 11:49:27am |
I wonder why anyone thanks Pat has a relevant opinion on anything.
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Filala Mon, Jun 22, 2009 11:49:31am |
He's such an idiot, he gives all Conservatives a bad name. Pat, please shut up !
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turn Mon, Jun 22, 2009 11:50:08am |
re: #1 zombie
What a nut. The MSM only gives him a platform in order to discredit the right.
I never thought of it that way, you have to be right about that in MSNBC's case but that still leaves me wondering why the hell Fox has him on.
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kansas Mon, Jun 22, 2009 11:51:05am |
re: #1 zombie
What a nut. The MSM only gives him a platform in order to discredit the right.
Is this why at tea parties we seem to see Nazi's and Paulians?
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Nevergiveup Mon, Jun 22, 2009 11:51:06am |
re: #24 turn
I never thought of it that way, you have to be right about that in MSNBC's case but that still leaves me wondering why the hell Fox has him on.
I hardly ever see him on FOX.
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Kosh's Shadow Mon, Jun 22, 2009 11:51:15am |
re: #1 zombie
What a nut. The MSM only gives him a platform in order to discredit the right.
And to blame the Joooos.
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turn Mon, Jun 22, 2009 11:52:02am |
re: #26 Nevergiveup
I hardly ever see him on FOX.
I've seen him on Hanity quite a bit over the years.
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DaddyG Mon, Jun 22, 2009 11:52:17am |
Let's pitch in and buy Pat a one way ticket to Tehran where he can go on the news and shoot off his mouth all he wants. Or in his case when he starts criticizing the regime de jour they can help him shoot it off.
(note to Stinky: Not advocating violence just illustrating the liberties we have in the US that the Mullahs may not extend to all pundits)
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kansas Mon, Jun 22, 2009 11:52:18am |
I guess the Iranian protesters don't have any guns of their own?
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anchors_aweigh Mon, Jun 22, 2009 11:52:37am |
Iran will fall the same way as the former USSR, internal revolution. It may happen this year, or it may happen in 10 years, either way, US geo-politics should be oriented towards undermining the present hostile regime in Iran.
Unfortunately, our new administration is re-orienting policies to solidify the current Iranian regime.
We need to get on the right side of history, because when the current Iranian regime falls, the US had better been on the side of freedom and liberty and not the side of repression.
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yma o hyd Mon, Jun 22, 2009 11:52:41am |
re: #28 Kenneth
Anybody really surprised about that?
I've yet to see or read anything by a LLL not supporting Ahmadinejad ....
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Kosh's Shadow Mon, Jun 22, 2009 11:53:01am |
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NonNativeTexan Mon, Jun 22, 2009 11:53:04am |
What is Pat's viewership anyway? I haven't seen him live or taped
on television for years. He is not revelant, has not been for years.
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DaddyG Mon, Jun 22, 2009 11:53:06am |
re: #29 turn
I've seen him on Hanity quite a bit over the years.
He's like a bad boil that keeps coming to the surface when inflamed.
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Nevergiveup Mon, Jun 22, 2009 11:54:02am |
re: #29 turn
I've seen him on Hanity quite a bit over the years.
Lately? Since it's baseball season I am more likely watching that than Fox anyway and getting the news online.
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Kosh's Shadow Mon, Jun 22, 2009 11:54:23am |
re: #32 anchors_aweigh
Iran will fall the same way as the former USSR, internal revolution. It may happen this year, or it may happen in 10 years, either way, US geo-politics should be oriented towards undermining the present hostile regime in Iran.
Unfortunately, our new administration is re-orienting policies to solidify the current Iranian regime.
We need to get on the right side of history, because when the current Iranian regime falls, the US had better been on the side of freedom and liberty and not the side of repression.
The administration is already on the wrong side with respect to Israel, for all their platitudes that they "support" Israel.
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Rexatosis Mon, Jun 22, 2009 11:54:35am |
Let's see, MSNBC and CNBC run re-runs and info-mercials all weekend long instead of covering a news story of global implications, then when we get to Monday they roll out Pat "write a red meat speech for VP Agnew" Buchanan to argue the long ago historically discredited "splendid isolationism" position abandoned by the GOP on 7 December 1941 (Pat seems not to have gotten that memo delivered by the Japanese Imperial Navy), and we are supposed to take GE news seriously? This isn't news, it's farce (unless the masses believe Uncle Pat, then it's tragedy).
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Kenneth Mon, Jun 22, 2009 11:54:46am |
re: #34 Kosh's Shadow
Better yet, they should be sharing a rope.
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DaddyG Mon, Jun 22, 2009 11:54:47am |
re: #31 kansas
I guess the Iranian protesters don't have any guns of their own?
The point of no return is when the people with guns join the protesters. I wonder how much physical power is behind the regular army vs. the brute squads?
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turn Mon, Jun 22, 2009 11:54:49am |
re: #36 DaddyG
He's like a bad boil that keeps coming to the surface when inflamed.
I quit watching Hanity btw, not because of Pat but because the program is boring to me without Colmes.
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Kosh's Shadow Mon, Jun 22, 2009 11:56:13am |
re: #35 NonNativeTexan
What is Pat's viewership anyway? I haven't seen him live or taped
on television for years. He is not revelant, has not been for years.
His viewership is high enough for them to keep him on the air.
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MJ Mon, Jun 22, 2009 11:56:35am |
The antisemitic Michael Scheuer on Fox as well as on CNN has been sprouting the same line as Buchanan.
It's the new meme for the antisemitic crowd.
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Rexatosis Mon, Jun 22, 2009 11:57:21am |
RE# 35 NonNativeTexan
Pat doesn't have viewership, he's on MSNBC.
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A.W. Mon, Jun 22, 2009 11:57:58am |
Btw, i heard his script was written by andrew sullivan
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Spartacus50 Mon, Jun 22, 2009 11:58:50am |
Does anyone here remember his failed presidential campaigns?
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dhg4 Mon, Jun 22, 2009 11:59:06am |
First of all Daniel Pipes clarified his comment. Not that it would matter to paleo-Pat.
Still I find it hard to distinguish Buchanan's rantings much different in substance from those of Robert Kaiser. To be sure Kaiser uses less inflamatory language. Or even consider the recent Glenn Kessler profile of Dennis Ross, portraying Ross as being too "pro-Israel."
Buchanan, of course, uses incendiary language, but the charge that Israel/Jews has/have too much influence is all too prevalent in our political discourse.
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turn Mon, Jun 22, 2009 11:59:30am |
re: #37 Nevergiveup
Lately? Since it's baseball season I am more likely watching that than Fox anyway and getting the news online.
I think I saw him on Fox in the last few weeks IIRC. I know MSNBC has him on almost daily, on Morning Joe. I must admit I never realized his dislike of Israel nor his tie in with the white nationalists until I stared reading LGF. Prior to that I had respect for him being a presidential candidate and all, not any more. Oh man that video of that women dying was horrible, I watched it right after lunch and nearly lost it. She died, and I'm no expert on watching people die.
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Occasional Reader Mon, Jun 22, 2009 12:00:05pm |
re: #34 Kosh's Shadow
re: #28 Kenneth
George Galloway shilling for Ahmadinejad
They should be sharing a cell.
But who would be the "wife"?
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American Sabra Mon, Jun 22, 2009 12:01:01pm |
re: #32 anchors_aweigh
Iran will fall the same way as the former USSR, internal revolution. It may happen this year, or it may happen in 10 years, either way, US geo-politics should be oriented towards undermining the present hostile regime in Iran.
Unfortunately, our new administration is re-orienting policies to solidify the current Iranian regime.
We need to get on the right side of history, because when the current Iranian regime falls, the US had better been on the side of freedom and liberty and not the side of repression.
I think that's one of the most intelligent things I read on here for quite some time.
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MJ Mon, Jun 22, 2009 12:02:36pm |
Just a point of fact. Pipes did say something like that ( taken out of context by the antisemitic Buchanan ) and then had second thoughts:
A throwaway line of mine at the Heritage Foundation on June 3 has turned into a minor internet sensation. Here it is, as presented by the left-wing journalist who broke the story:
"I'm sometimes asked who I would vote for if I were enfranchised in this election, and I think that, with due hesitance, I would vote for Ahmadinejad," Pipes said. The reason, Pipes went on, is that he would "prefer to have an enemy who's forthright and obvious, who wakes people up with his outlandish statements."
I then went on more fully to explain this opinion at "Rooting for Ahmadinejad," where I provided the context that this selective quote omitted:
whoever is elected president, whether Mahmoud Ahmadinejad or his main opponent, Mir Hossein Mousavi, will have limited impact on the issue that most concerns the outside world – Iran's drive to build nuclear weapons, which Khamene'i will presumably continue apace, as he has in prior decades. Therefore, while my heart goes out to the many Iranians who desperately want the vile Ahmadinejad out of power, my head tells me it's best that he remain in office.
The startling events in Iran in the week since the election, however, have transformed Mousavi from a hack Islamist politician into the unlikely symbol of dreams for a more secular and free Iran. In the words of Abbas Milani, my colleague at the Hoover Institution, "If Ahmadinejad survives, it will be on the back of a Tiananmen-style crackdown. If Mousavi prevails, it will be on a wave of reformist sentiment." While that reformist sentiment may not shake the regime and is unlikely to stop the nuclear weapons program, it does hold out hope for substantial change.
Accordingly, I no longer want Ahmadinejad to serve as president for a second term but prefer Mousavi in that position. Better yet, of course, would be for neither of them to hold power but for the entire fetid Islamic Republic of Iran to collapse. While confident that process is underway. I have no idea if it is weeks or decades ahead. Whatever it requires, Mousavi as president hastens the process. (June 20, 2009)
[Link: www.danielpipes.org...]
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MacDuff Mon, Jun 22, 2009 12:03:33pm |
re: #47 Spartacus50
Does anyone here remember his failed presidential campaigns?
Absolutely, and "FAILED" is the key word, thank God!
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Darwin Akbar Mon, Jun 22, 2009 12:09:57pm |
Regarding what Daniel Pipes initially said, it's not all that different from the "positive" aspects of having Hamas in charge of Gaza. Like Dinnerjacket, Hamas says what it means and it means what it says. When they say they want to kill all the Jews, there should be (except in the little peanut-sized brains of the likes of Jimmy Carter and Juan Cole) no room for doubt as to what they mean.
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_RememberTonyC Mon, Jun 22, 2009 12:10:56pm |
buchanan is a nazi ... and I'm sure he'd be proud of the label.
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Land Shark Mon, Jun 22, 2009 12:12:43pm |
Pat Buchanan makes my skin crawl. I was going to call him a weasel but that would be unfair and disrespectful. To the weasels.
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dhg4 Mon, Jun 22, 2009 12:12:52pm |
re: #54 Darwin Akbar
Regarding what Daniel Pipes initially said, it's not all that different from the "positive" aspects of having Hamas in charge of Gaza. Like Dinnerjacket, Hamas says what it means and it means what it says. When they say they want to kill all the Jews, there should be (except in the little peanut-sized brains of the likes of Jimmy Carter and Juan Cole) no room for doubt as to what they mean.
Yes, but as MJ and I pointed out above, Pipes, upon further investigation changed his views. He doesn't believe that Mousavi, despite his origins, could prevail unless there was a major change in Iran.
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haakondahl Mon, Jun 22, 2009 12:26:17pm |
re: #25 kansas
Is this why at tea parties we seem to see Nazi's and Paulians?
It's connected. We used to be better at cleaning house. Now, we'll be lucky to escape the flames.
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jpkoch Mon, Jun 22, 2009 12:27:11pm |
I think if the Iranian people are able to throw off the oppression of the Mullahs, President Bush will be greatly vindicated. Despite his other obvious problems, he stood by the Iraqis when no when else would. The Left (and many "moderates") said horrible things about him, and he was threatened with war crime trials and impeachment for his efforts.
While AQ and Sadr's armies butchered the Iraqi people, our soldiers and Bush were the only friends they had. The Dems (with Obama shouting the loudest) declared the war a miserable failure and wanted to retreat and declare defeat.
The fact that there is a free Iraq must have figured into the uprising. If Iran's Mullahs fall, and a better regime is created, Obama and the Dems will have a lot of explaining to do.
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haakondahl Mon, Jun 22, 2009 12:32:31pm |
re: #60 jpkoch
I think if the Iranian people are able to throw off the oppression of the Mullahs, President Bush will be greatly vindicated. Despite his other obvious problems, he stood by the Iraqis when no when else would. The Left (and many "moderates") said horrible things about him, and he was threatened with war crime trials and impeachment for his efforts.
While AQ and Sadr's armies butchered the Iraqi people, our soldiers and Bush were the only friends they had. The Dems (with Obama shouting the loudest) declared the war a miserable failure and wanted to retreat and declare defeat.
The fact that there is a free Iraq must have figured into the uprising. If Iran's Mullahs fall, and a better regime is created, Obama and the Dems will have a lot of explaining to do.
No. If it goes well, Obama will get the credit for the awakening on his watch, and if it goes poorly, Bush will get the blame for de-stabilizing the region.
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_RememberTonyC Mon, Jun 22, 2009 12:35:47pm |
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lostlakehiker Mon, Jun 22, 2009 12:38:20pm |
The worst line in Buchanan's response is when he said that Iran `had an election', giving that as a reason why Iran isn't as bad as North Korea.
They had elections in Iraq during Saddam's reign. He won handily, taking every last single vote. Buchanan, by his silence about the transparently fraudulent nature of the recent Iranian regime's 'counting' of the ballots, suggests that they had a real election.
For shame.
The best line is when he goes on to say that North Korea is worse. That is, after all, true. NK has nukes right now, and right now is threatening nuclear war if the U.S. or anybody interferes with its shipping weapons, of any nature, to anybody. If NK is determined to make good on this threat, there will be nuclear war. We aren't going to stand by and permit NK to sell missiles and nukes to the Taliban, say.
Maybe NK is bluffing. If not, they're insane; the leadership would not survive that war and the people would suffer terribly.
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FightingBack Mon, Jun 22, 2009 12:43:17pm |
For Pat, any theocracy is good. Except in Israel, of course.
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RadicalRon Mon, Jun 22, 2009 12:48:13pm |
Patrick Jew-hatin' Buchanan is being rehabilitated by some on the right, such as Hannity and FoxNews.
Although Hannity hasn't made him a regular guest yet, the same can be said for loony Ron Paul.
Why?
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haakondahl Mon, Jun 22, 2009 12:55:52pm |
Pat Buchanan: Netanyahu and Neocons Conspiring to Exploit Iran Protesters
Will nobody rid us of the tiresome prick?
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Ezekiel2517 Mon, Jun 22, 2009 1:00:00pm |
Who let Grandpa Munster out of the dungeon?
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haakondahl Mon, Jun 22, 2009 1:02:37pm |
re: #66 haakondahl
Will nobody rid us of the tiresome prick?
Off of the airwaves, that is. Just to be clear.
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Lee Coller Mon, Jun 22, 2009 1:05:08pm |
Mike Gallagher referred to Buchanan as "someone he respected" on his radio show this morning.
What is wrong with all these conservatives? They seem not to realize the ilk that Buchanan is.
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Joel Mon, Jun 22, 2009 1:08:02pm |
re: #11 Gang of One
And to think I used to enjoy listening to Sean Hannity before he became shrill and kept giving Buchanan a platform.
Buchanan is a regular on MSNBC.
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Land Shark Mon, Jun 22, 2009 1:11:02pm |
re: #10 zombie
You said it. I don't understand Hannity and Fox News giving that stupid idiot a platform to speak from. He's just an ignorant windbag.
I used to enjoy listening to Hannity, now when ever I hear him I keep thinking "is he going to put that creep Buchanan on?" then I change stations and never find out if he did.
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Joel Mon, Jun 22, 2009 1:14:04pm |
re: #5 Nevergiveup
I hate that anti-semite Buchanan but I said on a past thread that Bibi should have kept his big fat trap shut.
What do you mean big fat trap shut?
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looking closely Mon, Jun 22, 2009 1:21:13pm |
#s 1,3,4,10, etc
Couldn't agree with you more.
IMO, Buchanan probably doesn't need more attention here either.
There is a a fine line between "exposing" someone and giving them extra publicity/coverage.
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Areopagitica Mon, Jun 22, 2009 1:47:42pm |
I saw this on Morning Joe while eating breakfast last week. MJ is really the only show I watch on msnbc but the constant presence of Herr Pat continues to astound me and I'm curious if msnbc gets a lot of angry mail about him. I was really hoping that Pat's last book absolving Hitler and blaming Winston Churchill for WWII and the nazi atrocities that went along with it would have forced the network to take him off the air. Even Scarborough's guests on that episode called the book intellectually dishonest and wrong. I don't know why he keeps appearing.
Is anyone else sick and tired of this blame the Jooos mantra peddled by the extreme right, leftists and the crazy mullahs that think the Jooos are behind the protests in Iran? I mean some of these crazies have to stop buying into these conspiracy theories. Its holding back civilization.
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Alcove-One Mon, Jun 22, 2009 1:55:22pm |
"Conscience makes cowards of us all"
MSNBC's answer to "conservatives". Paleo Pat and Morning Shmo
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Alcove-One Mon, Jun 22, 2009 1:56:22pm |
I guess Paleo Pat is a nazi only when he disagrees with Barry O.
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Zimriel Mon, Jun 22, 2009 2:04:19pm |
re: #46 A.W.
Btw, i heard his script was written by andrew sullivan
Sullivan did yeoman's work about Iran. However Sullivan is as bad an anti-Semite as is Buchanan; which is what informs his talk about "the Khamenei-Neocon agreement". Ace had Sullivan's number on his 19 June posts.
If anything, Sullivan is worse. At least Buchanan doesn't pretend to be an idealist. Those of us who do give a shit about Iran, will be directed over to Sullivan's site, and will see the (good) work he's done on raising awareness; but will also see his musings about how Israelis, I mean Jews, uh, "neo-cons" secretly want a nuclear and despotic Iran. To the casual reader, either the reader will take anti-Semitism more seriously or else will take Iranians less seriously.
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BLBfootballs Mon, Jun 22, 2009 2:46:47pm |
What an embarrassment. In addition to his shameless sophism, Buchanan's distaste for democracy makes him one of the most convenient tools available for the Left to continually inflate as an image of "mainstream" rightism.
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BLBfootballs Mon, Jun 22, 2009 2:47:45pm |
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captdiggs Mon, Jun 22, 2009 2:57:56pm |
Buchanan is getting teary eyed at the possibility of losing a naziesque regime.
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Joel Mon, Jun 22, 2009 5:21:28pm |
Pat Buchanan has a man crush on "Bibi (his name is Benjamin) Netanyahu.
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Sco Mon, Jun 22, 2009 5:30:31pm |
It is disgraceful that Joe Scarborough, CNN, FOX put this guy on the tube and let his disgusting rants go unchallenged.
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Joel Mon, Jun 22, 2009 5:39:52pm |
There is no doubt in my mind that Buchanan
1. is a closeted homosexual (not that there is anything wrong with that) who has a thing for tough Israeli leaders such as Ariel Sharon and Benjamin Netanyahu
2. Is a total anti-Semite.
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aaron's rantblog Mon, Jun 22, 2009 5:55:23pm |
re: #58 SFGoth
Childless Pat is shooting blanks.re: #58 SFGoth
He needs to get laid.
Childless Pat is either flaccid or shooting blanks.
Don't just blame MSNBC. WND and TownHall's writers have an opportunity to withhold their columns en masse until Pat's weekly screed is pulled. It's gutless Conservatives who aren't willing to walk out who show tacit approval of Pat by their silence on the matter.
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sffilk Tue, Jun 23, 2009 6:11:24am |
re: #35 NonNativeTexan
What is Pat's viewership anyway? I haven't seen him live or taped
on television for years. He is not revelant, has not been for years.
He's not relevant, but he's a regular member of the panel on the McLaughlin Group on a weekly basis.
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sffilk Tue, Jun 23, 2009 6:24:03am |
re: #83 Joel
There is no doubt in my mind that Buchanan
1. is a closeted homosexual (not that there is anything wrong with that) who has a thing for tough Israeli leaders such as Ariel Sharon and Benjamin Netanyahu
2. Is a total anti-Semite.
I'd love to hear more about #1, since I've never heard that bandied about regarding this "person."
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aaron's rantblog Tue, Jun 23, 2009 6:28:27pm |
Wikipedia:
Göring was known for his extravagant tastes and garish clothing. Hans-Ulrich Rudel, the top Stuka pilot of the war, recalled twice meeting Göring dressed in outlandish costumes: first, a medieval hunting costume, practicing archery with his doctor, and second, dressed in a russet toga fastened with a golden clasp, smoking an abnormally large pipe. Italian Foreign Minister Ciano once noted Göring wearing a fur coat looking like what "a high grade prostitute wears to the opera."
Yes, it would be a sweet slice of schadenfreude to learn that Pat was cut from the same cloth.
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