It’s kind of amazing, but Governor Mark Sanford actually seems to believe he can remain in office despite his propensity for disappearing without notice and lying about the reason.
Byron York: Serious questions remain for Mark Sanford.
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MrSilverDragon Fri, Jun 26, 2009 10:04:30am |
I have one question for him, and one question alone...
"Was it really worth it, dude?"
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MikeAlv77 Fri, Jun 26, 2009 10:04:38am |
This guy leaves his job for a few days to dip his wick and thinks a quick apology is all he needs to do... wow...
My wife would have just shot me and removed the middle man...
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CIA Reject Fri, Jun 26, 2009 10:05:05am |
Remain in office? What does he think he's going to do- change parties and become a Democrat?
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Jun 26, 2009 10:06:02am |
re: #2 MikeAlv77
He went down there for a little "wink wink nudge nudge"?
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buster Fri, Jun 26, 2009 10:06:29am |
I guess this sort of thing should be left to Presidents
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Kosh's Shadow Fri, Jun 26, 2009 10:07:00am |
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alegrias Fri, Jun 26, 2009 10:07:02am |
re: #3 CIA Reject
Remain in office? What does he think he's going to do- change parties and become a Democrat?
re: #3 CIA Reject
Remain in office? What does he think he's going to do- change parties and become a Democrat?
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John McCain whom Sanford supported in 1999 and 2000's Republican primary, should advise Sanford on how to do this and have your cake and eat it too.
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Sharmuta Fri, Jun 26, 2009 10:07:49am |
The most serious is whether Sanford’s frame of mind will allow him to carry out his duties as governor. His passionate love affair with an Argentine woman appears to be a classic case of a middle-aged man who wants out of his life.
If he doesn't want his job, he should quit. He can't tell his wife he wants out of the marriage, or the people that he wants to resign- he creates a situation where all of that will be questioned and dealt with for him by others. Kind of cowardly, imo.
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wrenchwench Fri, Jun 26, 2009 10:09:02am |
It’s kind of amazing, but Governor Mark Sanford actually seems to believe he can remain inofficehis marriage despite his propensity for disappearing without notice and lying about the reason.
ETFY
[Embellished That For You]
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Dahveed Fri, Jun 26, 2009 10:09:09am |
Time to resign Governor. You're an embarassment.
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Jun 26, 2009 10:09:16am |
re: #6 taxfreekiller
Most important vote in 20 years just now going in in Congress.
Will America get gut shot by loon liberal environmental nut jobs?
Looks like it.
So, call your Congress person.
Just say no.[Link: www.firstgov.com...]
Mine wouldn't listen to me. She's a hard-left loon.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Jun 26, 2009 10:09:27am |
re: #3 CIA Reject
Remain in office? What does he think he's going to do- change parties and become a Democrat?
If he was a Dem it would be a "personal issue."
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Land Shark Fri, Jun 26, 2009 10:09:30am |
This guy is a real nut case. He's obviously unfit to hold the office of governor, to disappear without telling someone so he can go cavort with his mistress in Argentina is the height of irresponsibility. What about his duties to the people of the state, clearly that's small potatoes to this fool. Any South Carolina resident with half a brain should want that dufus outta there!
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MandyManners Fri, Jun 26, 2009 10:09:32am |
I saw a Republican on Fox this morning giving him what-for, saying he'll call for an investigation into the money Sanford spent on his trip.
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MandyManners Fri, Jun 26, 2009 10:10:13am |
And, what about the money the state spent looking for him? He should pay that back, too.
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tfc3rid Fri, Jun 26, 2009 10:10:16am |
Who cahhhhzzz... He's a jerk...
What about Cap and Tax (alternatively known as the end of American prosperity act).
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Buster Fri, Jun 26, 2009 10:10:29am |
re: #6 taxfreekiller
Most important vote in 20 years just now going in in Congress.
Will America get gut shot by loon liberal environmental nut jobs?
Looks like it.
So, call your Congress person.
Just say no.[Link: www.firstgov.com...]
As the rest of the world comes to their senses....
[Link: online.wsj.com...]
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jcm Fri, Jun 26, 2009 10:10:37am |
I don't care much for philandering. But that's not the main issue.
Dereliction of Duty is a major issue.
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redc1c4 Fri, Jun 26, 2009 10:11:02am |
re: #14 Dark_Falcon
Mine wouldn't listen to me. She's a hard-left loon.
i live in CA: no sense calling any of them........
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BlueCanuck Fri, Jun 26, 2009 10:11:16am |
re: #20 redc1c4
here's a good question for him: "WTF were you thinking?"
He wasn't, or if he was it was with the wrong head.
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alegrias Fri, Jun 26, 2009 10:11:30am |
Sanford's blubbering and sanctimonious self-analysis is embarrassment enough for his state to throw the bum out.
Then there's misappropriation of state funds to support his foreign affair.
Tacking on extra legs on "state" flights to Brazil, to make extra stops in Argentina?
This guy thinks he's McCain's younger more Southern libertarian version.
Be gone, jump, run, fly to Argentina, just leave the state and country.
We've got bigger problems than your stupid problems.
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Jun 26, 2009 10:11:37am |
re: #11 taxfreekiller
Just follow the loon Democrat environmental nut jobs like California.
This is where it will take you America.
[Link: www.nytimes.com...]
The best chance to stop this bill is in the Senate. There it needs 60 votes and that will be harder to do. Which Dem Senators can we peel off? Those in places like Colorado and Montana come to mind. Also perhaps Casey in Pennsylvania.
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MikeAlv77 Fri, Jun 26, 2009 10:11:43am |
re: #5 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
He went down there for a little "wink wink nudge nudge"?
Yep, supposed to be some hot brunette...
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MandyManners Fri, Jun 26, 2009 10:11:47am |
re: #10 Sharmuta
If he doesn't want his job, he should quit. He can't tell his wife he wants out of the marriage, or the people that he wants to resign- he creates a situation where all of that will be questioned and dealt with for him by others. Kind of cowardly, imo.
He shoulda' just bought a Corvette.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Jun 26, 2009 10:11:54am |
I haven't been following the story closely. I was assuming the reason he went down there was to break it off or something.
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Jun 26, 2009 10:12:11am |
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MandyManners Fri, Jun 26, 2009 10:12:38am |
re: #22 jcm
I don't care much for philandering. But that's not the main issue.
Dereliction of Duty is a major issue.
So is his spending the tax-payers' money.
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alegrias Fri, Jun 26, 2009 10:12:49am |
re: #20 redc1c4
here's a good question for him: "WTF were you thinking?"
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Who cares, just get him off the stage.
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MrSilverDragon Fri, Jun 26, 2009 10:13:05am |
re: #20 redc1c4
here's a good question for him: "WTF were you thinking?"
He was thinking "I'm a politician, therefore I'm better than everyone else, so I'm exempt from the rules."
/note, I don't believe that of ALL politicians, but I believe there are plenty of them who think that way.
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lawhawk Fri, Jun 26, 2009 10:13:08am |
Sanford is simply following in the illustrious footsteps of the following (in no particular order):
Eliot Spitzer (D-NY)
Jim McGreevey (D-NJ)
Barney Frank (D-MA)
Gerry Studds (D-MA)
Charles Rangel (D-NY)
William Jefferson (D-LA)
Ted Stevens (R-AK)
Chris Dodd (D-CT)
And many many more...
All thought they were entitled to remain in their positions despite ethical flaps, clear criminality, and/or controversy surrounding their infidelities depending on their individual circumstances.
It's a bipartisan effort to remain in power despite their actions that show them unsuited to remain in office - and in some cases, their constitutents made it a point to reelect them on multiple occasions.
A few, like Mark Foley, were tossed, but that's the exception rather than the rule.
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CIA Reject Fri, Jun 26, 2009 10:13:18am |
re: #9 alegrias
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John McCain whom Sanford supported in 1999 and 2000's Republican primary, should advise Sanford on how to do this and have your cake and eat it too.
re: #15 Cannadian Club Akbar
If he was a Dem it would be a "personal issue."
Actually, as alegrais points out, he may well have survived- but since he's identified with the "social conservative / religious right" he is now tagged as a HYPOCRITE by the press and hence he's toast.
The fact that he's a lying, philandering, unfaithful scumbag notwithstanding.
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MandyManners Fri, Jun 26, 2009 10:13:33am |
re: #30 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I haven't been following the story closely. I was assuming the reason he went down there was to break it off or something.
It doesn't matter. He disappeared and spent other people's money.
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MikeAlv77 Fri, Jun 26, 2009 10:14:21am |
re: #32 MandyManners
So is his spending the tax-payers' money.
I feel it is important to a degree. If a guy can lie to his wife, lying to the public is even easier. It shows character. He has none. If this guy would chuck it all to go screw someone while married imagine what he'd do for a little money....
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albusteve Fri, Jun 26, 2009 10:14:39am |
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Shiplord Kirel Fri, Jun 26, 2009 10:14:44am |
He certainly has his defenders and apologists among the usual suspects. It's odd that the advocates of traditional values have forgotten one of the most important and most traditional: the sense of duty. According to early media reports, nobody in the state administration knew where Sanford was, including the state police commander and the Adjutant General. As far as I am concerned this jerk abandoned his post and should be sacked immediately. The police commander and adjutant-general could be jailed if they did this, btw.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Jun 26, 2009 10:14:45am |
I've never been with a woman from Argentina, but I doubt it is so good I would throw away a career and a marriage and break up my family.
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Sharmuta Fri, Jun 26, 2009 10:14:45am |
A number of social conservatives have said that Sanford's survival in South Carolina depends on whether he is able to reconcile with his wife. The Palmetto Council, an important local social conservative organization, issued a statement saying Sanford "told the truth with apparent contrition -- and contrition is a start."
I really don't care about his private life. The problem here is he abdicated his duty to the people of South Carolina with his bender. Placing pressure on a politician's personal life shouldn't be the business of politics unless it's criminal. This is a private matter.
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Desert Dog Fri, Jun 26, 2009 10:15:03am |
We all wish you luck with your new career, Ex-Gov. Sanford - Bub-bye.
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Desert Dog Fri, Jun 26, 2009 10:16:01am |
re: #43 Sharmuta
I really don't care about his private life. The problem here is he abdicated his duty to the people of South Carolina with his bender. Placing pressure on a politician's personal life shouldn't be the business of politics unless it's criminal. This is a private matter.
And, if he misused Public funds for his personal life, it is boarding on criminality
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doppelganglander Fri, Jun 26, 2009 10:16:12am |
I've been more sympathetic to him than most of you, but I agree he needs to resign.
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jcm Fri, Jun 26, 2009 10:16:17am |
re: #32 MandyManners
So is his spending the tax-payers' money.
I haven't been following it closely, as soon as he went AWOL that was enough for me.
He did it on the taxpayers dime?
Dereliction of Duty and misappropriation of funds?
Hang 'em high.
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MandyManners Fri, Jun 26, 2009 10:16:19am |
re: #39 MikeAlv77
I feel it is important to a degree. If a guy can lie to his wife, lying to the public is even easier. It shows character. He has none. If this guy would chuck it all to go screw someone while married imagine what he'd do for a little money....
Part of me does not care WHAT he was doing down there. He disappeared, spent tax dollars and caused tax dollars to be spent.
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sngnsgt Fri, Jun 26, 2009 10:16:56am |
re: #7 buster
I guess this sort of thing should be left to Presidents
LOL! Leave this kind of thing to professionals.
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alegrias Fri, Jun 26, 2009 10:17:00am |
OT
Governor Sarah Palin's visiting her National Guard troops in Kosovo.
(Remember Pres. Clinton promised US would be in Bosnia only ONE year?)
No hanky panky--Palin doesn't pal around.
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doppelganglander Fri, Jun 26, 2009 10:17:23am |
re: #45 Desert Dog
And, if he misused Public funds for his personal life, it is boarding on criminality
I believe he's said he'll repay the state for any funds he used on his little getaway.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Jun 26, 2009 10:17:23am |
re: #38 MandyManners
I agree.
I keep deleting a dirty line. I really want to post it. But, alas, I'll get killed. Someone act shocked and I'll feel like I did it and that way I won't have to.
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Sharmuta Fri, Jun 26, 2009 10:18:02am |
re: #45 Desert Dog
And, if he misused Public funds for his personal life, it is boarding on criminality
That's not my problem. My problem is political circles pressuring him to reconcile with his wife in order to save his job. He should lose his job because he did a crappy job, not because of his marriage issues.
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MandyManners Fri, Jun 26, 2009 10:18:41am |
re: #47 jcm
I haven't been following it closely, as soon as he went AWOL that was enough for me.
He did it on the taxpayers dime?
Dereliction of Duty and misappropriation of funds?
Hang 'em high.
From what I've heard, yes, he spent tax money. The Republican on Fox this morning said it's about $90,000.00. Even though he's said he'll pay it back, the representative said it's the same as a bank robber who promises to pay back the money he stole at gun-point.
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alegrias Fri, Jun 26, 2009 10:18:50am |
re: #41 Shiplord Kirel
He certainly has his defenders and apologists among the usual suspects. It's odd that the advocates of traditional values have forgotten one of the most important and most traditional: the sense of duty. According to early media reports, nobody in the state administration knew where Sanford was, including the state police commander and the Adjutant General. As far as I am concerned this jerk abandoned his post and should be sacked immediately. The police commander and adjutant-general could be jailed if they did this, btw.
* * *
Agree, major dereliction by ALL who conspired to cover this shit up.
In the military, you're supposed to resign when you disgrace yourself, and rat out those who lie, cheat & steal., I believe. (fact check me please)
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wrenchwench Fri, Jun 26, 2009 10:19:03am |
re: #52 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I agree.
I keep deleting a dirty line. I really want to post it. But, alas, I'll get killed. Someone act shocked and I'll feel like I did it and that way I won't have to.
I can't believe you posted that!
/
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albusteve Fri, Jun 26, 2009 10:19:12am |
re: #53 Sharmuta
That's not my problem. My problem is political circles pressuring him to reconcile with his wife in order to save his job. He should lose his job because he did a crappy job, not because of his marriage issues.
forgiveness is highly over rated imo
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DaddyG Fri, Jun 26, 2009 10:19:15am |
As one of our esteemed Lizards noted earlier, its not the infidelity that is the problem with him staying in office. Any McDonalds fry cook would have been fired after 5 days AWOL much less the Chief Executive of a whole state.
Clearly he has allowed his personal problems to interfere with his job. Perhaps the citizens of South Carolina can do him a favor and give him some more personal time to get his act straight.
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Dianna Fri, Jun 26, 2009 10:19:17am |
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Kosh's Shadow Fri, Jun 26, 2009 10:19:27am |
re: #20 redc1c4
here's a good question for him: "WTF were you thinking?"
Someone should tell him
"Stop thinking with your dipstick, laddie!"
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subsailor68 Fri, Jun 26, 2009 10:19:29am |
Here's my question for Governor Sanford:
How do you solve a problem like Maria?
How do you catch a cloud and pin it down?
How do you find a word that best describes you?
A flibbertijibbet! A will-o'-the wisp! A clown!
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Mike Nargizian Fri, Jun 26, 2009 10:19:49am |
re: #34 MrSilverDragon
He was thinking "I'm a politician, therefore I'm better than everyone else, so I'm exempt from the rules."
/note, I don't believe that of ALL politicians, but I believe there are plenty of them who think that way.
Him being a politician had nothing to do with this imo... thats your own projection..... except that perhaps women are more attracted to powerful guys... except she's Argentinian and likely could give a crap that hes a governor of some state...
He was probably thinking I'mnot happy and 49 and met a beautiful younger woman... simple as that....
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BlueCanuck Fri, Jun 26, 2009 10:20:03am |
re: #52 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I agree.
I keep deleting a dirty line. I really want to post it. But, alas, I'll get killed. Someone act shocked and I'll feel like I did it and that way I won't have to.
*mouth wide* OMG why did you have to say that?
/there you go.
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alegrias Fri, Jun 26, 2009 10:20:12am |
re: #43 Sharmuta
I really don't care about his private life. The problem here is he abdicated his duty to the people of South Carolina with his bender. Placing pressure on a politician's personal life shouldn't be the business of politics unless it's criminal. This is a private matter.
* * *
He should take his "private matter" off the public stage, there's plenty of eager beavers ready to lead if this moron can't focus on his job.
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MandyManners Fri, Jun 26, 2009 10:20:15am |
re: #52 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I agree.
I keep deleting a dirty line. I really want to post it. But, alas, I'll get killed. Someone act shocked and I'll feel like I did it and that way I won't have to.
Is this it? A stiff dick has no conscience.
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Unakite Fri, Jun 26, 2009 10:20:38am |
Monica Conyers pleads guilty to conspiracy
Sex on the right, corruption on the left.
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MandyManners Fri, Jun 26, 2009 10:21:11am |
re: #53 Sharmuta
That's not my problem. My problem is political circles pressuring him to reconcile with his wife in order to save his job. He should lose his job because he did a crappy job, not because of his marriage issues.
Aren't they implicitly telling his wife to reconcile with him?
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Sharmuta Fri, Jun 26, 2009 10:21:26am |
re: #57 albusteve
He disappeared. He failed the people of South Carolina, and he may have mis-spent money. That is all that should matter as far as him remaining governor goes. He should resign.
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Killgore Trout Fri, Jun 26, 2009 10:21:29am |
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wrenchwench Fri, Jun 26, 2009 10:21:29am |
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Velvet Elvis Fri, Jun 26, 2009 10:21:36am |
I've been saying he sounds bipolar. The rashness. The thinking he could get away with it. The failure to plan.
Sane people just. don't. do. shit. like..this.
(and I'm one to know)
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Sharmuta Fri, Jun 26, 2009 10:21:55am |
re: #68 MandyManners
Aren't they implicitly telling his wife to reconcile with him?
Yes. I don't think it's their place.
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Desert Dog Fri, Jun 26, 2009 10:22:27am |
re: #53 Sharmuta
That's not my problem. My problem is political circles pressuring him to reconcile with his wife in order to save his job. He should lose his job because he did a crappy job, not because of his marriage issues.
What he and his wife do now is up to them. As for his political future, I'd say it's over. He cannot recover from this.
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CIA Reject Fri, Jun 26, 2009 10:22:29am |
re: #68 MandyManners
Aren't they implicitly telling his wife to reconcile with him?
Yes, they are. And it's despicable.
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DaddyG Fri, Jun 26, 2009 10:22:31am |
re: #57 albusteve
forgiveness is highly over rated imo
And kind of hollow unless it is following repentance.
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sngnsgt Fri, Jun 26, 2009 10:22:56am |
re: #52 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I agree.
I keep deleting a dirty line. I really want to post it. But, alas, I'll get killed. Someone act shocked and I'll feel like I did it and that way I won't have to.
OMFG! Stinky Beaumont is going to get you!
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albusteve Fri, Jun 26, 2009 10:23:01am |
re: #69 Sharmuta
He disappeared. He failed the people of South Carolina, and he may have mis-spent money. That is all that should matter as far as him remaining governor goes. He should resign.
there is no sympathy in resignation....he is a weak man on many levels....and I simply disdain cheaters...they are the worst of all
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Gretchen Fri, Jun 26, 2009 10:23:06am |
Ummmmm...the guy is a nut but who cares? We have cap and trade on the floor of congress and a health plan bill that will actually make a difference in the lives of Americans. Unfortunately a horrible difference.
Sanford is a creep but it isn't like he hired a prostitute, drown a campaign worker, lied in a civil rights suit, had a prostitution ring operating out of his townhouse, impregnated a campaign worker while using his wife's breast cancer as a campaign tool, made millions off legislation that benefited his lobbyist spouse, blah, blah blah.
He needs to go but in light of all the crap going on in congress and with King Obama I couldn't care less about this guy.
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debutaunt Fri, Jun 26, 2009 10:23:38am |
re: #22 jcm
I don't care much for philandering. But that's not the main issue.
Dereliction of Duty is a major issue.
Philandering is a big tip-off in the character department.
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Land Shark Fri, Jun 26, 2009 10:23:41am |
re: #69 Sharmuta
Couldn't agree more. And if the fool doesn't resign on his own, the state legislature should kick his irresponsible ass out of office.
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MandyManners Fri, Jun 26, 2009 10:23:47am |
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MandyManners Fri, Jun 26, 2009 10:24:09am |
re: #75 CIA Reject
Yes, they are. And it's despicable.
I wish she would tell them to shut the fuck up.
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Jun 26, 2009 10:24:15am |
re: #66 MandyManners
Is this it? A stiff dick has no conscience.
That's why take the man's attention off his dick by kicking him in the balls. I am a man, but just once I'd like to see the wronged wife boot the cheater where the sun don't shine.
Off to work. TTYT
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Jun 26, 2009 10:24:28am |
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Sharmuta Fri, Jun 26, 2009 10:24:32am |
re: #78 albusteve
there is no sympathy in resignation....he is a weak man on many levels....and I simply disdain cheaters...they are the worst of all
It boils down to not being able to perform his duties- no matter how we came to know about it. He should resign if he has any integrity.
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albusteve Fri, Jun 26, 2009 10:24:39am |
re: #76 DaddyG
And kind of hollow unless it is following repentance.
I'm the Dirty Harry type, not the St Paul type...I could care less about the metaphysical aspect of it
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MandyManners Fri, Jun 26, 2009 10:24:57am |
re: #81 Land Shark
Couldn't agree more. And if the fool doesn't resign on his own, the state legislature should kick his irresponsible ass out of office.
Can it do that?
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doppelganglander Fri, Jun 26, 2009 10:25:04am |
re: #83 MandyManners
I wish she would tell them to shut the fuck up.
I think there is approximately zero chance she'll take him back.
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MandyManners Fri, Jun 26, 2009 10:25:32am |
re: #84 Dark_Falcon
That's why take the man's attention off his dick by kicking him in the balls. I am a man, but just once I'd like to see the wronged wife boot the cheater where the sun don't shine.
Off to work. TTYT
It's happened before.
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debutaunt Fri, Jun 26, 2009 10:25:32am |
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Henchman Ghazi-808 Fri, Jun 26, 2009 10:25:33am |
Sanford needs to go, as if the GOP doesn't have enough problems:
[Link: www.sfgate.com...]
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NJDhockeyfan Fri, Jun 26, 2009 10:25:35am |
This is rich...
Sanford says he'll reimburse state for $12,000 South America trip
COLUMBIA, S.C. - South Carolina Gov. Mark Sanford is telling his state agency chiefs that he's sorry for keeping them in the dark when he went to see Argentina to see his mistress.
The Republican on Friday held his typical public meeting with the agency chiefs, but started with apologies and likening his confession and future to the biblical plight of King David.
...The governor has not addressed the legal questions, but Sanford on Thursday said he would pay back an undisclosed amount for the nine-day trip to Brazil and Argentina for which taxpayers paid $12,000 last year. That includes $8,687 for Sanford's plane ticket, and $453 in lodging.
"I made a mistake while I was there in meeting with the woman who I was unfaithful with," the governor said in a statement.
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MikeAlv77 Fri, Jun 26, 2009 10:25:36am |
re: #86 Sharmuta
It boils down to not being able to perform his duties- no matter how we came to know about it. He should resign if he has any integrity.
And there is the kicker... from what he did, it shows he has no integrity.. very intertwined
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solomonpanting Fri, Jun 26, 2009 10:25:40am |
It was only after The State got in touch with the governor's office, saying it had copies of several incriminating emails between Sanford and the Argentine woman, that Sanford scheduled a news conference and confessed.
Is it against the law and/or an invasion of privacy to obtain and/or publish private phone calls? Wasn't this what all of the critics of Bush's Homeland Security's monitoring of calls were complaining about?
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MandyManners Fri, Jun 26, 2009 10:25:53am |
re: #84 Dark_Falcon
That's why take the man's attention off his dick by kicking him in the balls. I am a man, but just once I'd like to see the wronged wife boot the cheater where the sun don't shine.
Off to work. TTYT
But, maybe the better place to nail him is his wallet.
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doppelganglander Fri, Jun 26, 2009 10:25:58am |
re: #89 MandyManners
Can it do that?
I suppose they could impeach him. They've certainly got grounds. Then again, it would require a special session and if the Lieutenant Governor is not calling for his resignation, I doubt there's the political will to do it.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Jun 26, 2009 10:26:09am |
re: #67 Unakite
Monica Conyers pleads guilty to conspiracy
Sex on the right, corruption on the left.
If a married male Republican had an affair with a corrupt woman Democrat, Obama would take credit for bringing the parties together.
//
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MandyManners Fri, Jun 26, 2009 10:26:21am |
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alegrias Fri, Jun 26, 2009 10:26:34am |
re: #53 Sharmuta
That's not my problem. My problem is political circles pressuring him to reconcile with his wife in order to save his job. He should lose his job because he did a crappy job, not because of his marriage issues.
* * *
Sanford could have been leading the charge against Cap & Trade right now if he had his priorities straight. He could have been leading the charge on the issues you care about, balanced budget bla bla bla.
Instead, he's sucking oxygen out of IMPORTANT issues.
Sanford's become an issue. Time for him to go.
We need an Eisenhower leading D-Day against hostile Cap & Trade, healthcare takeovers and feckless foreign policy.
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albusteve Fri, Jun 26, 2009 10:26:39am |
re: #86 Sharmuta
It boils down to not being able to perform his duties- no matter how we came to know about it. He should resign if he has any integrity.
well his honesty and his honor are shot to pieces...we'll see if there is anything left...but he should have resigned yesterday
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Land Shark Fri, Jun 26, 2009 10:26:40am |
re: #89 MandyManners
I'm sure they could, dereliction of duty, defrauding the state, for starters.
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Wendya Fri, Jun 26, 2009 10:26:44am |
Mark Sanford.
Yet one more reason I'm glad I don't live in South Carolina.
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MandyManners Fri, Jun 26, 2009 10:27:15am |
re: #90 doppelganglander
I think there is approximately zero chance she'll take him back.
I'd have his crap boxed and booted to the curb.
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CIA Reject Fri, Jun 26, 2009 10:27:17am |
re: #90 doppelganglander
I think there is approximately zero chance she'll take him back.
What really frosts me is that, on top of abandoning his duties as govenor, he runs out to cheat on his wife and children on Father's Day weekend!
How low can you get?
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MandyManners Fri, Jun 26, 2009 10:28:11am |
re: #92 debutaunt
When trust is gone, it's over.
If I hear one person defend him by saying she's a ball-breaking bitch or he just couldn't help himself for some other reason, I'll go bat-poo crazy.
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doppelganglander Fri, Jun 26, 2009 10:28:28am |
re: #107 CIA Reject
What really frosts me is that, on top of abandoning his duties as govenor, he runs out to cheat on his wife and children on Father's Day weekend!
How low can you get?
That really bothered me, especially when I found out he and his wife had been married only 20 years - meaning the kids were still quite young. What does that teach your sons?
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loudguitars Fri, Jun 26, 2009 10:28:54am |
Sanford is a dirt bag! Why do conservatives have to resign when they commit adultery? When liberal can commit crimes and their career is improved.
Obama's shady home purchase from felons. Tax Cheat Tim Geitner? Should Barney Frank resign? Why didn't William "cold cash" Jefferson resign? John Conyers wife is a felon. Did Clinton resign for adultery and lying under oath? Diane Feinstein is dirty. Pelosi's family hired illegal aliens at their winery and she pushed legislation to exempt companies from taxation and regulation in which she had a financial stake? Chris Dodd is a liar and received favors from Country Wide mortgage.
Conservatives generally hold ourselves to a higher standard and that is why we call for Sanford's resignation. He is a lying dirt bag. But Liberals appear to have no moral center and as long as their "political" agenda is being advanced. The world is upside down!
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MandyManners Fri, Jun 26, 2009 10:28:58am |
re: #94 NJDhockeyfan
This is rich...
Sanford says he'll reimburse state for $12,000 South America trip
likening his confession and future to the biblical plight of King David.
NARCISSIST ALERT!
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Cygnus Fri, Jun 26, 2009 10:29:09am |
re: #60 Kosh's Shadow
Someone should tell him
"Stop thinking with your dipstick, laddie!"
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eschew_obfuscation Fri, Jun 26, 2009 10:29:17am |
re: #94 NJDhockeyfan
This is rich...
Sanford says he'll reimburse state for $12,000 South America trip
Holy Poop! How does one spend $8,700 on a plane ticket? Private charter? Couldn't have been commercial.
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MandyManners Fri, Jun 26, 2009 10:29:46am |
re: #99 doppelganglander
I suppose they could impeach him. They've certainly got grounds. Then again, it would require a special session and if the Lieutenant Governor is not calling for his resignation, I doubt there's the political will to do it.
If the Repbulican on Fox this morning is any indication of the party's feelings down there, there is the will.
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Desert Dog Fri, Jun 26, 2009 10:29:54am |
re: #110 doppelganglander
That really bothered me, especially when I found out he and his wife had been married only 20 years - meaning the kids were still quite young. What does that teach your sons?
He had done more damage than just hurting the political party he belongs to or the State he is allegedly running....he has damaged his family. That is the worst part of this mess....
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MikeAlv77 Fri, Jun 26, 2009 10:30:04am |
re: #108 MandyManners
If I hear one person defend him by saying she's a ball-breaking bitch or he just couldn't help himself for some other reason, I'll go bat-poo crazy.
But the girl from Argentina was real hot.....
/////
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Henchman Ghazi-808 Fri, Jun 26, 2009 10:30:20am |
re: #109 Sharmuta
I agree. He's dead weight and we don't need this right now.
I think he's more of a liability Sharm.
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doppelganglander Fri, Jun 26, 2009 10:30:31am |
From Sanford's Wiki page, this is really funny - a helpful map showing the relative positions of Atlanta and Buenos Aires. In case you didn't know they are very far apart.
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
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McJenny50 Fri, Jun 26, 2009 10:30:46am |
Not defending, just asking...
Didn't he tell his staff he was leaving and that he "might" go hiking? Sounds like people DID know he was going away and that he wasn't definite about just where.
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MandyManners Fri, Jun 26, 2009 10:30:47am |
re: #103 albusteve
well his honesty and his honor are shot to pieces...we'll see if there is anything left...but he should have resigned yesterday
If you have neither honor nor honesty, what's left?
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Desert Dog Fri, Jun 26, 2009 10:30:52am |
re: #115 eschew_obfuscation
Holy Poop! How does one spend $8,700 on a plane ticket? Private charter? Couldn't have been commercial.
It is if you walk up to the counter the day of the flight and say "one roundtrip to Buenos Aires, first class, please"
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Pacificlady Fri, Jun 26, 2009 10:30:56am |
His relationship with his wife is personal. However, his lack of common sense and irresponsibility to the citizens of South Carolina is inexcusable, but they should decide whether he should remain or not. BTW, his wife (or soon-to-be ex-wife) is very classy. As my friend always says, men think with their small brain, not the one in their head.
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reine.de.tout Fri, Jun 26, 2009 10:31:03am |
re: #112 loudguitars
I'm glad that "conservatives" are bothered enough by this behavior to want him to resign.
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MandyManners Fri, Jun 26, 2009 10:31:10am |
re: #104 Land Shark
I'm sure they could, dereliction of duty, defrauding the state, for starters.
They need to get going on this.
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eschew_obfuscation Fri, Jun 26, 2009 10:31:15am |
re: #112 loudguitars
Sanford is a dirt bag! Why do conservatives have to resign when they commit adultery? When liberal can commit crimes and their career is improved.
Obama's shady home purchase from felons. Tax Cheat Tim Geitner? Should Barney Frank resign? Why didn't William "cold cash" Jefferson resign? John Conyers wife is a felon. Did Clinton resign for adultery and lying under oath? Diane Feinstein is dirty. Pelosi's family hired illegal aliens at their winery and she pushed legislation to exempt companies from taxation and regulation in which she had a financial stake? Chris Dodd is a liar and received favors from Country Wide mortgage.Conservatives generally hold ourselves to a
higherstandard and that is why we call for Sanford's resignation. He is a lying dirt bag. But Liberals appear to have no moral center and as long as their "political" agenda is being advanced. The world is upside down!
FTFY ;-)
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doppelganglander Fri, Jun 26, 2009 10:31:56am |
re: #121 McJenny50
Not defending, just asking...
Didn't he tell his staff he was leaving and that he "might" go hiking? Sounds like people DID know he was going away and that he wasn't definite about just where.
He deliberately deceived them and made no provision for running the state in his absence. That's dereliction of duty.
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MandyManners Fri, Jun 26, 2009 10:32:07am |
re: #107 CIA Reject
What really frosts me is that, on top of abandoning his duties as govenor, he runs out to cheat on his wife and children on Father's Day weekend!
How low can you get?
Gotta' beg to differ. Adultery is an act that breaks the bonds of marriage, not of parentage.
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DaddyG Fri, Jun 26, 2009 10:32:11am |
re: #84 Dark_Falcon
That's why take the man's attention off his dick by kicking him in the balls. I am a man, but just once I'd like to see the wronged wife boot the cheater where the sun don't shine.
Off to work. TTYT
John Wayne Bobbit can tell you all about that.
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Henchman Ghazi-808 Fri, Jun 26, 2009 10:32:14am |
Sanford's next campaign theme:
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albusteve Fri, Jun 26, 2009 10:32:46am |
re: #122 MandyManners
If you have neither honor nor honesty, what's left?
for me, it would be nothing...my principles are all I have
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MandyManners Fri, Jun 26, 2009 10:33:02am |
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Henchman Ghazi-808 Fri, Jun 26, 2009 10:33:14am |
re: #122 MandyManners
If you have neither honor nor honesty, what's left?
I had an old Brit lady friend: she used to say 'Men are just a dick and a stomach.'
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reine.de.tout Fri, Jun 26, 2009 10:33:35am |
re: #108 MandyManners
If I hear one person defend him by saying she's a ball-breaking bitch or he just couldn't help himself for some other reason, I'll go bat-poo crazy.
His wife has shown such class and grace.
And I am so very very glad she was not persuaded to "stand with him" at some press conference.
He got himself into this mess.
He needs to have the guts to face this alone, without depending on his wife to try to lend him some sort of "credibility".
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MandyManners Fri, Jun 26, 2009 10:33:50am |
re: #121 McJenny50
Not defending, just asking...
Didn't he tell his staff he was leaving and that he "might" go hiking? Sounds like people DID know he was going away and that he wasn't definite about just where.
That's another lie he told.
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BlueCanuck Fri, Jun 26, 2009 10:33:56am |
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albusteve Fri, Jun 26, 2009 10:34:02am |
re: #124 Pacificlady
His relationship with his wife is personal. However, his lack of common sense and irresponsibility to the citizens of South Carolina is inexcusable, but they should decide whether he should remain or not. BTW, his wife (or soon-to-be ex-wife) is very classy. As my friend always says, men think with their small brain, not the one in their head.
really?...get out much?
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doppelganglander Fri, Jun 26, 2009 10:34:23am |
re: #131 MandyManners
Gotta' beg to differ. Adultery is an act that breaks the bonds of marriage, not of parentage.
But his absence on Father's Day says to his sons, 1) you are not important to me, and 2) it's okay for a man to treat the mother of his children this way. That's devastating.
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Land Shark Fri, Jun 26, 2009 10:34:30am |
re: #115 eschew_obfuscation
Holy Poop! How does one spend $8,700 on a plane ticket? Private charter? Couldn't have been commercial.
He probably flew business or first class. I've flown several times to Argentina, always in coach 'cause the fare on business or first was several thousand dollars, at least. I seem to recall on one trip it was about $ 6,000.00 on business class round trip out of Miami. Since I'm one of the owners of the business, it's money out of my pocket and we aren't that big a company. I'd rather get it in a bonus at the end of the year.
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Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Jun 26, 2009 10:34:32am |
My fucking Congressman is on the fence with cap and trade. Can't get through to his office in DC. He'd better do the right thing. He lost a car dealership with all the closings. He votes yes, he'll lose his next election.
I'll help with that.
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solomonpanting Fri, Jun 26, 2009 10:34:42am |
re: #112 loudguitars
Why do conservatives have to resign when they commit adultery? When liberal can commit crimes and their career is improved.
Double standards and low expectations.
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Cygnus Fri, Jun 26, 2009 10:34:46am |
re: #140 BlueCanuck
And very high lawyer fees.....
/
And disillusioned kids. They also pay the price.
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MandyManners Fri, Jun 26, 2009 10:34:46am |
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MikeAlv77 Fri, Jun 26, 2009 10:35:20am |
re: #140 BlueCanuck
And very high lawyer fees.....
/
Sounds like a bad MasterCard commercial...
Ticket to Argentina to frolick with mistress: $8374
Room to frolick with: $ 475
Throwing away a promising career, marriage and hurting everyone you know: Priceless
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irongrampa Fri, Jun 26, 2009 10:35:33am |
re: #102 alegrias
True. Unfortunately, she's busy administering Alaska just now.
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DaddyG Fri, Jun 26, 2009 10:35:53am |
re: #139 MandyManners
That's another lie he told.
What the Appalacian trail thing?
His staffers misheard him when he said he was going out to "poke some Agentinian tail"
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MandyManners Fri, Jun 26, 2009 10:35:55am |
re: #136 BigPapa
I had an old Brit lady friend: she used to say 'Men are just a dick and a stomach.'
That's putting it a bit too far.
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MandyManners Fri, Jun 26, 2009 10:36:13am |
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Cygnus Fri, Jun 26, 2009 10:36:42am |
re: #135 MandyManners
*whackwhackwhackwhack*
The *whack* is back! How are you and your family doing?
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MandyManners Fri, Jun 26, 2009 10:36:59am |
re: #138 reine.de.tout
His wife has shown such class and grace.
And I am so very very glad she was not persuaded to "stand with him" at some press conference.
He got himself into this mess.
He needs to have the guts to face this alone, without depending on his wife to try to lend him some sort of "credibility".
Now I have that infernal song "Stand by your Man" playing in my head. THANKS A LOT!
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BlueCanuck Fri, Jun 26, 2009 10:37:18am |
re: #136 BigPapa
I had an old Brit lady friend: she used to say 'Men are just a dick and a stomach.'
That's not totally true. I do usually use my brain to think of other things. Let me get back to you on that one though.
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MandyManners Fri, Jun 26, 2009 10:37:55am |
re: #142 doppelganglander
But his absence on Father's Day says to his sons, 1) you are not important to me, and 2) it's okay for a man to treat the mother of his children this way. That's devastating.
True but, the core betrayal is of his vows.
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Dianna Fri, Jun 26, 2009 10:38:03am |
Forgive the OT, but I got an alert about this story, and I'm laughing my head off.
It's from World Net Daily, which is about as credible as the Weekly World News, so I merely link it for amusement value:
Ark of the Covenant to be Unveiled in Ethiopia
Now, a quick word: there is a fairly old occult speculation that places the Ark in Ethiopia. A reporter by the name of Hancock went mad while following this trail and wrote a book that is an absolutely fascinating portrait of deteriorating sanity.
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KenJen Fri, Jun 26, 2009 10:38:13am |
re: #107 CIA Reject
What really frosts me is that, on top of abandoning his duties as govenor, he runs out to cheat on his wife and children on Father's Day weekend!
How low can you get?
It's as low as it gets. His wife is a strong person, she is probably used to this behavior being related to the Kennedy's and all. She will be fine. I feel really,really bad for the boys.
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alegrias Fri, Jun 26, 2009 10:38:23am |
re: #96 solomonpanting
Is it against the law and/or an invasion of privacy to obtain and/or publish private phone calls? Wasn't this what all of the critics of Bush's Homeland Security's monitoring of calls were complaining about?
* * *
using government computers/PDAs/cell phones for personal purposes is NOT protected.
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MandyManners Fri, Jun 26, 2009 10:38:46am |
re: #150 DaddyG
What the Appalacian trail thing?
His staffers misheard him when he said he was going out to "poke some Agentinian tail"
LOL! I wonder how many really knew where he was.
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reine.de.tout Fri, Jun 26, 2009 10:39:05am |
re: #124 Pacificlady
His relationship with his wife is personal. However, his lack of common sense and irresponsibility to the citizens of South Carolina is inexcusable, but they should decide whether he should remain or not. BTW, his wife (or soon-to-be ex-wife) is very classy. As my friend always says, men think with their small brain, not the one in their head.
aw, c'mon.
That might be true of some men at some point in their lives; but it is not universally true.
My husband the Roi is incredibly sexy, and steadfast, faithful and just wonderful in almost every way.
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BlueCanuck Fri, Jun 26, 2009 10:39:14am |
re: #158 Dianna
It was linked yesterday I think from another source as well. Check under the History links at the top of the page. Have to go back two days for it to show up.
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DaddyG Fri, Jun 26, 2009 10:39:19am |
Lets not bash men here. Put the blame where it lies. Medicare coverage for cheap Viagra. /
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MandyManners Fri, Jun 26, 2009 10:39:48am |
re: #153 Cygnus
The *whack* is back! How are you and your family doing?
Hanging in there, thank you.
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jcm Fri, Jun 26, 2009 10:39:53am |
re: #80 debutaunt
Philandering is a big tip-off in the character department.
True that.
It's his Philandering that lead to being AWOL and stealing.
But the reason he should be gone is the AWOL and stealing.
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Sharmuta Fri, Jun 26, 2009 10:40:01am |
re: #138 reine.de.tout
His wife has shown such class and grace.
And I am so very very glad she was not persuaded to "stand with him" at some press conference.
He got himself into this mess.
He needs to have the guts to face this alone, without depending on his wife to try to lend him some sort of "credibility".
Exactly- I think he's a coward.
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Desert Dog Fri, Jun 26, 2009 10:40:15am |
re: #158 Dianna
Forgive the OT, but I got an alert about this story, and I'm laughing my head off.
It's from World Net Daily, which is about as credible as the Weekly World News, so I merely link it for amusement value:
Ark of the Covenant to be Unveiled in Ethiopia
Now, a quick word: there is a fairly old occult speculation that places the Ark in Ethiopia. A reporter by the name of Hancock went mad while following this trail and wrote a book that is an absolutely fascinating portrait of deteriorating sanity.
Dr. Jones, we need you to go to Ethiopia
| 170 |
MandyManners Fri, Jun 26, 2009 10:40:26am |
re: #155 vxbush
That may depend on the man, my dear.
The easiest way to a man's heart is through his chest.
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Mad Al-Jaffee Fri, Jun 26, 2009 10:40:36am |
re: #158 Dianna
I remember that movie, with the melting/exploding Nazi heads!
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BARACK THE VOTE Fri, Jun 26, 2009 10:40:48am |
re: #136 BigPapa
I had an old Brit lady friend: she used to say 'Men are just a dick and a stomach.'
At least your Brit lady friend didn't say they were only "spotted dick".
/
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BlueCanuck Fri, Jun 26, 2009 10:40:54am |
re: #170 MandyManners
The easiest way to a man's heart is through his chest.
Preferably with a 10mm right?
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alegrias Fri, Jun 26, 2009 10:41:05am |
re: #144 Cannadian Club Akbar
My fucking Congressman is on the fence with cap and trade. Can't get through to his office in DC. He'd better do the right thing. He lost a car dealership with all the closings. He votes yes, he'll lose his next election.
I'll help with that.
* * *
Call his local office in your district.
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irongrampa Fri, Jun 26, 2009 10:41:16am |
re: #164 DaddyG
Easy on the Viagra. Haven't rolled out of bed ONCE since taking it.
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Kosh's Shadow Fri, Jun 26, 2009 10:41:49am |
re: #158 Dianna
Forgive the OT, but I got an alert about this story, and I'm laughing my head off.
It's from World Net Daily, which is about as credible as the Weekly World News, so I merely link it for amusement value:
Ark of the Covenant to be Unveiled in Ethiopia
Now, a quick word: there is a fairly old occult speculation that places the Ark in Ethiopia. A reporter by the name of Hancock went mad while following this trail and wrote a book that is an absolutely fascinating portrait of deteriorating sanity.
Similar article in Israel National News
Well, it's Friday. Where is the Ark? Still in a government warehouse?
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Sharmuta Fri, Jun 26, 2009 10:41:56am |
re: #162 reine.de.tout
aw, c'mon.
That might be true of some men at some point in their lives; but it is not universally true.My husband the Roi is incredibly sexy, and steadfast, faithful and just wonderful in almost every way.
Women are just as capable of being driven by hormones. What is supposed to make us different from the animals is our ability to not act on our more base instincts. Sometimes, people fail.
| 178 |
MandyManners Fri, Jun 26, 2009 10:42:03am |
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DaddyG Fri, Jun 26, 2009 10:42:06am |
re: #158 Dianna Everyone knows the Arc of the Covenant is being stored in a secret government warehouse along with the crystal skulled aliens from area 51. Duh!
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Wendya Fri, Jun 26, 2009 10:42:10am |
re: #144 Cannadian Club Akbar
My fucking Congressman is on the fence with cap and trade. Can't get through to his office in DC. He'd better do the right thing. He lost a car dealership with all the closings. He votes yes, he'll lose his next election.
I'll help with that.
Mike Doyle (D) from Pennsylvania claims this bill will create jobs.
I've got news for him. It will cost jobs in my company.
| 183 |
Cygnus Fri, Jun 26, 2009 10:43:04am |
re: #158 Dianna
Forgive the OT, but I got an alert about this story, and I'm laughing my head off.
It's from World Net Daily, which is about as credible as the Weekly World News, so I merely link it for amusement value:
Ark of the Covenant to be Unveiled in Ethiopia
Now, a quick word: there is a fairly old occult speculation that places the Ark in Ethiopia. A reporter by the name of Hancock went mad while following this trail and wrote a book that is an absolutely fascinating portrait of deteriorating sanity.
For a really fun read on the subject, pick up The Copper Scroll by Joel Rosenberg. Great fiction, though the Copper Scroll is real.
| 184 |
Cannadian Club Akbar Fri, Jun 26, 2009 10:43:05am |
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Dianna Fri, Jun 26, 2009 10:43:10am |
re: #176 Kosh's Shadow
Similar article in Israel National News
Well, it's Friday. Where is the Ark? Still in a government warehouse?
That's a much saner article. I wonder why my news alert picked up the WND article? And so late!
| 186 |
Henchman Ghazi-808 Fri, Jun 26, 2009 10:43:20am |
re: #151 MandyManners
That's putting it a bit too far.
Yes of course. But in context, she didn't pick men well and this was her early 20's when women are painfully more mature than men. Still makes me chuckle hearing her say it snappy-like with her Brit accent, usually after getting flaked on or watching a group of us 20-somethings act like 20-somethings.
Sanford doesn't deserve that description, but his integrity is in a deep hole. The first thing he could do is resign and work on fixing his family situation before he tried getting back into politics.
| 187 |
jcm Fri, Jun 26, 2009 10:43:56am |
re: #121 McJenny50
Not defending, just asking...
Didn't he tell his staff he was leaving and that he "might" go hiking? Sounds like people DID know he was going away and that he wasn't definite about just where.
When a Gov. is out of touch he needs to sign off and transfer authority temporarily to the Lt. Gov.
If a emergency occurs the Lt. Gov. wouldn't have the power to activate the Nat. Guard. They'd have to waste time, trying to locate the Gov. then get a court order declaring the Gov. missing etc...
All the jackass had to do was say I'm taking a break for a few days, the Lt. Gov. is in charge, I cannot be reached.
| 188 |
Dianna Fri, Jun 26, 2009 10:44:04am |
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Killgore Trout Fri, Jun 26, 2009 10:44:11am |
Obama makes another statement on Iran.......
Iran election violence "outrageous," Obama says
"The rights of the Iranian people to assemble, to speak freely, to have their voices heard, those are universal aspirations," Obama said at a White House news conference."Their bravery in the face of brutality is a testament to their enduring pursuit of justice. The violence perpetrated against them is outrageous."
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kansas Fri, Jun 26, 2009 10:44:24am |
re: #30 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I haven't been following the story closely. I was assuming the reason he went down there was to break it off or something.
He didn't break it off, but he might have worn it out.
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DaddyG Fri, Jun 26, 2009 10:44:40am |
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DaddyG Fri, Jun 26, 2009 10:45:21am |
I have got to keep up with these threads. Darn me for trying to get work done on a Friday.
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lawhawk Fri, Jun 26, 2009 10:45:28am |
Just to keep everything in perspective, comes this quip on CNN:
Twitter crashed as users saw multiple "fail whales" -- the illustrations the site uses as error messages -- user FoieGrasie posting, "Irony: The protesters in Iran using twitter as com are unable to get online because of all the posts of 'Michael Jackson RIP.' Well done." The site's status blog said that Twitter had had to temporarily disable its search results, saved searches and trend topics.
Outstanding! Music legend dies, and nearly takes down one of the key communications efforts by the opposition to the Islamofascists in Tehran because everyone was rushing to say RIP to Michael Jackson. If only so many people cared for the millions at risk of subjugation in Iran today.
Instead, the media is devoting nearly all of the above the fold coverage to Jackson's death. It's a frakking circus, but I guess the public loves a circus. They're getting one.
Just as the House is set to vote on the cap and trade tax that will sap the US economy for years to come, and is preparing a health makeover that will undermine the delivery of health care for generations to come. After all, if the government can't even deliver on existing promises of health care to US veterans, why should anyone else think that they'll deliver quality care to everyone else?
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Land Shark Fri, Jun 26, 2009 10:46:47am |
re: #189 Killgore Trout
Nice to see our President finally growing a pair and telling it like it is.
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CIA Reject Fri, Jun 26, 2009 10:47:36am |
re: #175 irongrampa
Easy on the Viagra. Haven't rolled out of bed ONCE since taking it.
Just don't take iron pills while you're taking viagra.
You'll spin around and point North
| 198 |
wintercat Fri, Jun 26, 2009 10:51:51am |
I heard from a radio talk person yesterday that Sanford's admission was a political move to come clean now so people will have less emotion about this when he runs for President.
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quickjustice Fri, Jun 26, 2009 10:52:00am |
I'll repeat: I think Mrs. Sanford would be a great replacement for her husband.
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jcm Fri, Jun 26, 2009 10:54:36am |
re: #189 Killgore Trout
He still can't use the the words "freedom" or "liberty" can he.
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snowcrash Fri, Jun 26, 2009 10:58:16am |
re: #200 jcm
Rep Inslee WA is supporting the bill on CSPAN now.
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Dad O' Blondes Fri, Jun 26, 2009 10:59:11am |
He should resign.
Yikes, he authored these e-mails which everyone has read:
"My heart cries out for you, your voice, your body, the touch of your lips, the touch of your finger tips and an even deeper connection to your soul," Sanford wrote in one of the e-mails, dated last summer. "I could digress and say that you have the ability to give magnificent gentle kisses, or that I love your tan lines or that I love the curve of your hips, the erotic beauty of you holding yourself (or two magnificent parts of yourself) in the faded glow of the night's light .."
I can see the resignation speech now - Jim McGreevy version:
I am an Amorous American...
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BARACK THE VOTE Fri, Jun 26, 2009 11:00:36am |
Let's forget what party Sanford belongs to. Let's even try to forget he's a governor.
Let's just think about what he did, divorced (heh) from all political or partisan contexts.
Aren't his actions profoundly weird? This is a guy with a good job and rising future, a wife and 4 kids, and he chose to run away and abandon his job and his family and leave no word. For days.
It's so strange, This is someone who shot off his legs for love, sort of. I mean this is someone who hurt not only his family but himself and all his prospects *severely*. For what? Essentially an epistolary romance.
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jcm Fri, Jun 26, 2009 11:01:00am |
re: #201 snowcrash
Rep Inslee WA is supporting the bill on CSPAN now.
Cap-n-Trade?
I'm in Inslee's district.... just barely otherwise I'd be in McDimwitt's.
F'n turds.
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sagehen Fri, Jun 26, 2009 11:02:48am |
re: #35 lawhawk
Sanford is simply following in the illustrious footsteps of the following (in no particular order):
Eliot Spitzer (D-NY)
Jim McGreevey (D-NJ)
Barney Frank (D-MA)
Gerry Studds (D-MA)
Charles Rangel (D-NY)
William Jefferson (D-LA)
Ted Stevens (R-AK)
Chris Dodd (D-CT)And many many more...
All thought they were entitled to remain in their positions despite ethical flaps, clear criminality, and/or controversy surrounding their infidelities depending on their individual circumstances.
Elliot Spitzer and Jim McGreavy most certainly did not think they were entitled to remain in their positions. That's why they resigned the very day they had to confess.
David Vitter and Larry Craig did not resign, nor did John Ensign.
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horse Fri, Jun 26, 2009 11:22:57am |
It is now apparent this guy is a freakin' idiot on many levels; he needs to get his stupid a$$ out of office. Nothing so tragic as when a supposedly good person fails every aspect of their life in one fell swoop.
For his kids sake I hope he gets some help and starts behaving like an adult so they have a reasonable father figure for the rest of their lives.
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Dad O' Blondes Fri, Jun 26, 2009 11:33:25am |
re: #205 sagehen
Elliot Spitzer and Jim McGreavy most certainly did not think they were entitled to remain in their positions. That's why they resigned the very day they had to confess.
Good point.
But just to split some hairs:
1. Spitzer HAD to resign. His conduct was not just immoral, it was illegal. He was contracting services from a criminal enterprise, and he contracted some services across state lines, in violation of FEDERAL law.
2. McGreevey engaged in more notorious activity, and his own confessions of seeking anonymous gay sex in bathrooms and bookstores didn't help. He also appointed his gay-lover, foreign national, to New Jersey's top security post, a conflict of interest and an invalid appointment, as the gay lover could not gain national security clearance from the Feds because he was not a US citizen.
So while problematic, Sanford's behavior doesn't seem to rise to the obviously illegal Spitzer level.
Though disappearing for 5 days and using taxpayer funds to purchase plane tickets to Argentina to see his lover, presents some big-time judgement issues.
And last but not least -- anybody in Sanford's position who'd write e-mails like that should resign -- on principle.
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nyc redneck Fri, Jun 26, 2009 11:54:17am |
he seems unstable. it is so irresponsible for the guy to just disappear, his family not even knowing where he is. it really goes to character. it calls into question whether he is even able to perform his duties as gov. given his obvious state of mind. he is like an out of control love struck teenage boy. this is unbecoming
in a 50 yr. old married man w/ 4 children who has major political responsibilities.
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J.D. Fri, Jun 26, 2009 11:59:39am |
S.C. governor admits affair, apologizes
He, his wife, and his four sons at his inauguration, none of which/whom meant very much to him as it turns out.
He's toast.
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looking closely Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:28:29pm |
re: #205 sagehen
Elliot Spitzer and Jim McGreavy most certainly did not think they were entitled to remain in their positions. That's why they resigned the very day they had to confess.
David Vitter and Larry Craig did not resign, nor did John Ensign.
I'm pretty sure Spitzer did NOT resign the day he made his presser on the hooker scandal. He did so after a few days when it became clear he couldn't hang on.
On Sanford, there are a few good reasons why he might NOT resign/get impeached:
a. Whatever his lapse in judgment, its not clear he actually committed any CRIMES in this affair (ie unlike Spitzer). Certainly nothing like committing perjury (eg Bill Clinton), violating the Mann act or shuffling money around to avoid financial scrutiny (eg Spitzer).
At worst, it seems Sanford may have spent a relatively small amount of gov't money in "dual/use" type activities visiting his mistress on State-approved business. Looks bad, but the SC State legislators may decline to start throwing stones in THAT glass house.
b. Sanford is effectively a lame duck anyway. He's only got a little over a year in office left and can't run for re-election. The SC legislature would probably rather see him in office but significantly weakened rather than have to stand up to anyone stronger.
c. Meanwhile, the Lt. Governor in SC is not well-like either. There are multiple powerful individuals on both sides of the aisle eying the governor's seat, and none of them want to have to run against a high-profile "incumbent" (which is what Andre Bauer would be). So there is incentive from both parties to let Sanford stew for another year.
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Adrenalyn Fri, Jun 26, 2009 1:33:15pm |
don't resign
remind America that they re-elect democrats who do worse every time there is an election
need I list them.........?
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Ning The Merciless Fri, Jun 26, 2009 5:44:52pm |
This whole story is a huge waste of time. It shouldn't be of interest to anyone outside the borders of the State of South Carolina. Given that SC is a deep red state I imagine he is in a bit of trouble. But to most of the people fussing over this "Scandal" I would just like to say: the man's relationship with his wife, or lack thereof, is nobody's business except in that it has to be public so that it is not something he could be blackmailed over. Beyond that his personal life is just that - Personal.
Assuming I was a resident of SC then I might care about the possible mis-use of state funds or the part about being out of contact with the state government.
Meanwhile the House is passing this horrendously stupid energy bill but the media is saying - "Oooh Republicans, look over here, a scandal for you to talk about. What? No there's nothing happening in congress today why do you ask?" This was too convenient for Obama-lama-dingdong and Nan 'Stretch' Pelosi to work their mischief. The main stream media HAD to run with this story and blanket us with this BS.
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