Colonel Gadafi will not be bringing his all-girl bodyguard squad, bedouin tent, and fabulous wardrobe to Englewood, New Jersey, after all.
Instead, he’ll confine his visit to Manhattan. No word on whether he plans to pitch his tent at Turtle Bay.
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laZardo Sat, Aug 29, 2009 9:30:42am |
That is a lot of different spellings for the crazy colonel's name.
| 4 |
Walter L. Newton Sat, Aug 29, 2009 9:31:41am |
re: #3 laZardo
That is a lot of different spellings for the crazy colonel's name.
Could we all just agree on one spelling, like "terrorist?"
| 5 |
Last Mohican Sat, Aug 29, 2009 9:34:23am |
No word on whether he plans to pitch his tent at Turtle Bay.
Welll, in a figurative sense, he and his terrorist dictator ilk have already had their tent pitched at Turtle Bay for years.
| 8 |
debutaunt Sat, Aug 29, 2009 9:35:57am |
re: #4 Walter L. Newton
Could we all just agree on one spelling, like "terrorist?"
Does Muammar mean what I think it means?
| 10 |
realwest Sat, Aug 29, 2009 9:37:12am |
re: #6 unrealizedviewpoint
President's delivering eulogy now.
Is that being streamed anywhere do you know?
| 11 |
laZardo Sat, Aug 29, 2009 9:37:43am |
re: #4 Walter L. Newton
Could we all just agree on one spelling, like "terrorist?"
After that big photo-badge uniform thing, I'm thinking "troll."
| 12 |
calcajun Sat, Aug 29, 2009 9:37:47am |
It's shameful they way we treat this man, just because he won't give up the secret to his eleven herbs and spices...
Oops- wrong Colonel.
/
| 13 |
realwest Sat, Aug 29, 2009 9:37:58am |
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cliffster Sat, Aug 29, 2009 9:38:21am |
re: #10 realwest
Is that being streamed anywhere do you know?
I'm certain it will be on YouTube many times over
| 17 |
debutaunt Sat, Aug 29, 2009 9:39:08am |
re: #9 laZardo
OT, but Obama's speaking at Ted Kennedy's funeral now.
I hope he doesn't slip up and go off script.
| 18 |
realwest Sat, Aug 29, 2009 9:39:36am |
re: #14 jcm
Is he pulling a Wellstone? Did he name it KennedyCare yet?
| 19 |
calcajun Sat, Aug 29, 2009 9:40:13am |
re: #17 debutaunt
I'm sure there is a back-up teleprompter in there.
| 20 |
Truck Monkey Sat, Aug 29, 2009 9:40:30am |
re: #17 debutaunt
I hope he doesn't slip up and go off script.
That's what makes it fun. Like the flying Walendas working without a safety net.
| 21 |
debutaunt Sat, Aug 29, 2009 9:40:48am |
re: #18 realwest
Is he pulling a Wellstone? Did he name it KennedyCare yet?
Hey, this isn't a prescription - it's more like a liquor store list.
| 22 |
KenJen Sat, Aug 29, 2009 9:41:07am |
Maybe he could borrow Ringling Bros. and Barnum Bailey's tent. Would be appropriate- yes?
| 24 |
Bob Dillon Sat, Aug 29, 2009 9:41:15am |
He has an elevator phobia.
[Link: abcnews.go.com...]
| 25 |
Racer X Sat, Aug 29, 2009 9:42:36am |
re: #17 debutaunt
I hope he doesn't slip up and go off script.
His head is bobbing back and forth like a chihuahua in the back window of a Chevy. Teleprompter is ON.
| 27 |
Racer X Sat, Aug 29, 2009 9:43:29am |
Is it just me or is Obama going grey real fast?
| 28 |
realwest Sat, Aug 29, 2009 9:43:36am |
re: #24 Bobibutu
Hi Bobibutu! Wish he had set up his tent in Central Park, cause then we'd see just how tough those female bodyguards are! LOL!
| 31 |
MandyManners Sat, Aug 29, 2009 9:45:22am |
re: #27 Racer X
Is it just me or is Obama going grey real fast?
Only his hairdresser knows for sure.
| 32 |
unrealizedviewpoint Sat, Aug 29, 2009 9:45:50am |
re: #27 Racer X
Is it just me or is Obama going grey real fast?
Head of grey paint by November 2012.
| 34 |
laZardo Sat, Aug 29, 2009 9:46:29am |
re: #27 Racer X
Is it just me or is Obama going grey real fast?
W had a lot less gray hair in 2001, that's for sure. Stress of the job.
| 35 |
realwest Sat, Aug 29, 2009 9:46:42am |
re: #27 Racer X
All Presidents do - y'all have to be made of sturdy stock to withstand the rigors of that office.
I wouldn't do it no matter what you paid me...,
uh, well, the healtcare benefits maybe would change my mind!
| 38 |
pre-Boomer Marine brat Sat, Aug 29, 2009 9:47:23am |
re: #31 MandyManners
Only his hairdresser knows for sure.
That's true, but Chicago is widely known for Grecian palms.
| 39 |
Truck Monkey Sat, Aug 29, 2009 9:47:27am |
re: #32 unrealizedviewpoint
Head of grey paint by November 2012.
He should just shave it off. Maybe he still will. Black dudes look good with a shaved head.
| 41 |
laZardo Sat, Aug 29, 2009 9:49:43am |
re: #39 Truck Monkey
He should just shave it off. Maybe he still will. Black dudes look good with a shaved head.
Nothing beats the classic look:
/'cause everybody loves kung-fu fighting~
| 42 |
cliffster Sat, Aug 29, 2009 9:49:49am |
re: #39 Truck Monkey
He should just shave it off. Maybe he still will. Black dudes look good with a shaved head.
White dudes look, as Dave Barry says, "like a giant thumb"
| 43 |
midwestgak Sat, Aug 29, 2009 9:50:49am |
| 45 |
Racer X Sat, Aug 29, 2009 9:51:17am |
Iraqi who threw shoes at Bush to be released early
If you think the Libyan guy got a hero's welcome, wait till you see what they do to this guy.
I'm thinking Obama will make him the new footwear Czar.
| 46 |
MandyManners Sat, Aug 29, 2009 9:51:20am |
re: #38 pre-Boomer Marine brat
That's true, but Chicago is widely known for Grecian palms.
There should be a permanent ban on puns.
| 47 |
Bob Dillon Sat, Aug 29, 2009 9:51:45am |
re: #28 realwest
When the leader sleeps, the soldier stays awake, and it’s the women who do the fighting. Gaddafi trusts his security to ladies only. The head of the Libyan Jamahiriya has a total of 300-400 girls on his security detail. According to the official story, all of them are virgins. Selection is done by Gaddafi himself. This whim has an explanation for it: In ancient times, they believed that the best guards were either virgins or lesbians, the underlying belief being that they could sense threats, the so-called “wind of death.” The girls were even sterilized to make them more aggressive toward men. There can be different views on these stories, but it was the girls with Kalashnikovs who saved Gaddafi’s life several times. During the assassination, they shielded him from gunfire and grenades. One died, two others were wounded. The bodyguards are with Gaddafi day and night. Each of them can handle several strong men. According to some sources, most of the girls are Cuban.
---
I think he's serious about these gals abilities ...
| 48 |
laZardo Sat, Aug 29, 2009 9:52:02am |
re: #45 Racer X
As long as Adidas isn't made haraam, I'm fine with that.
| 49 |
Truck Monkey Sat, Aug 29, 2009 9:52:15am |
re: #42 cliffster
White dudes look, as Dave Barry says, "like a giant thumb"
Yup. Very few of us white dudes can pull off the bald look.
| 50 |
pre-Boomer Marine brat Sat, Aug 29, 2009 9:53:22am |
re: #46 MandyManners
There should be a permanent ban on puns.
*wave back*
/oops, better add a sarc tag!
| 51 |
Racer X Sat, Aug 29, 2009 9:53:27am |
GOP senator signals fading hopes on health care
In the Republicans' weekly radio and Internet address on Saturday, Enzi said any health care legislation must lower medical costs for Americans without increasing deficits and the national debt.
"The bills introduced by congressional Democrats fail to meet these standards," he said.
| 52 |
Cato the Elder Sat, Aug 29, 2009 9:54:21am |
Not supposed to crack jokes at a funeral, folks.
That's for the wake.
And we weren't invited to the wake.
| 53 |
realwest Sat, Aug 29, 2009 9:54:22am |
re: #47 Bobibutu
Yeah, but Central Park after dark is an entirely different matter. For one thing the muggers are better armed!
BTW, y'all got a link for that assassination attempt?
| 54 |
badger1970 Sat, Aug 29, 2009 9:54:40am |
I'm too busy rearranging my socks to listen to apathetic words about someone that was born into wealth and privilege only to squander it into debauchery and the belief of politics above all else. sorry
Every time I hear Gadafi's name, I'm thinking of The Clash video and Reagan bombing the crap out of his palace.
Now for OT: The IRB needs to limit the importance of penalty goals in a match. It's like watching the NFL with a field goal kicking contest (in a dome). (After watching Tri-nation matches 2,3,4.)
| 55 |
MandyManners Sat, Aug 29, 2009 9:55:18am |
For pity's sake. Why can't adult females be called "WOMEN"?!
| 56 |
Cato the Elder Sat, Aug 29, 2009 9:56:13am |
re: #42 cliffster
White dudes look, as Dave Barry says, "like a giant thumb"
The lucky ones do. The others look like another body part.
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unrealizedviewpoint Sat, Aug 29, 2009 9:56:16am |
So the funeral's in MA? ...that means the burial in Arlington is tomorrow?
| 58 |
laZardo Sat, Aug 29, 2009 9:56:44am |
re: #55 MandyManners
For pity's sake. Why can't adult females be called "WOMEN"?!
BECAUSE THEY'RE NOT MEN WITH TWO EXTRA LETTERS.
/ q:
| 59 |
cliffster Sat, Aug 29, 2009 9:56:59am |
re: #55 MandyManners
For pity's sake. Why can't adult females be called "WOMEN"?!
I remember referring to some women as "girls" and receiving your wrath awhile back. I think they were athletes, like, "those girls can really play". I guess your convictions remain strong :^)
| 60 |
Shug Sat, Aug 29, 2009 9:57:03am |
| 61 |
Truck Monkey Sat, Aug 29, 2009 9:57:50am |
re: #57 unrealizedviewpoint
So the funeral's in MA? ...that means the burial in Arlington is tomorrow?
This afternoon. The whole mespuchah is coming down to Arlington this afternoon.
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Cato the Elder Sat, Aug 29, 2009 9:58:05am |
re: #55 MandyManners
For pity's sake. Why can't adult females be called "WOMEN"?!
Because we're not all PC and shit here?
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unrealizedviewpoint Sat, Aug 29, 2009 9:58:40am |
re: #61 Truck Monkey
This afternoon. The whole mespuchah is coming down to Arlington this afternoon.
Late in the day burial.
| 64 |
MandyManners Sat, Aug 29, 2009 9:58:52am |
re: #57 unrealizedviewpoint
So the funeral's in MA? ...that means the burial in Arlington is tomorrow?
His carbon footprint survives his death.
| 65 |
Truck Monkey Sat, Aug 29, 2009 9:58:59am |
re: #56 Cato the Elder
The lucky ones do. The others look like another body part.
Hence the name Richard Cranium.
| 66 |
Gang of One Sat, Aug 29, 2009 9:59:07am |
| 67 |
cliffster Sat, Aug 29, 2009 9:59:33am |
re: #62 Cato the Elder
Because we're not all PC and shit here?
Dude, you oughta just let it go. Don't say I didn't warn you.
| 70 |
unrealizedviewpoint Sat, Aug 29, 2009 10:00:34am |
re: #68 Westward Ho
I thought that burial in Arlington cemetry was for war heroes only.
I think we can make exceptions for Senators & family of killed President's.
| 71 |
Gang of One Sat, Aug 29, 2009 10:00:48am |
re: #68 Westward Ho
I thought that burial in Arlington cemetry was for war heroes only.
I think he was hero in the War on Poverty® or something.
///
| 73 |
badger1970 Sat, Aug 29, 2009 10:01:08am |
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Bob Dillon Sat, Aug 29, 2009 10:01:12am |
re: #53 realwest
In October 1993, there was an unsuccessful assassination attempt on Gaddafi by elements of the Libyan army.
Just references to - no specifics.
here's one: [Link: www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org...]
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Truck Monkey Sat, Aug 29, 2009 10:01:33am |
re: #70 unrealizedviewpoint
I think we can make exceptions for Senators & family of killed President's.
Ted Kennedy served.
| 78 |
midwestgak Sat, Aug 29, 2009 10:01:52am |
| 79 |
unrealizedviewpoint Sat, Aug 29, 2009 10:02:06am |
| 82 |
Shug Sat, Aug 29, 2009 10:02:23am |
| 83 |
MandyManners Sat, Aug 29, 2009 10:02:25am |
re: #50 pre-Boomer Marine brat
*wave back*
/oops, better add a sarc tag!
Just don't flip me the finger.
| 84 |
vxbush Sat, Aug 29, 2009 10:03:15am |
FYI: Arlington's rules:
The persons specified below are eligible for ground burial in Arlington National Cemetery. The last period of active duty of former members of the Armed Forces must have ended honorably. Interment may be casketed or cremated remains.Any active duty member of the Armed Forces (except those members serving on active duty for training only).
Any veteran who is retired from active military service with the Armed Forces.
Any veteran who is retired from the Reserves is eligible upon reaching age 60 and drawing retired pay; and who served a period of active duty (other than for training).
Any former member of the Armed Forces separated honorably prior to October 1, 1949 for medical reasons and who was rated at 30% or greater disabled effective on the day of discharge.
Any former member of the Armed Forces who has been awarded one of the following decorations:
Medal of Honor
Distinguished Service Cross (Navy Cross or Air Force Cross)
Distinguished Service Medal
Silver Star
Purple Heart
The President of the United States or any former President of the United States.
Any former member of the Armed Forces who served on active duty (other than for training) and who held any of the following positions:
An elective office of the U.S. Government
Office of the Chief Justice of the United States or of an Associate Justice of the Supreme Court of the United States.
An office listed, at the time the person held the position, in 5 USC 5312 or 5313 (Levels I and II of the Executive Schedule).
The chief of a mission who was at any time during his/her tenure classified in Class I under the provisions of Section 411, Act of 13 August 1946, 60 Stat. 1002, as amended (22 USC 866) or as listed in State Department memorandum dated March 21, 1988.
Any former prisoner of war who, while a prisoner of war, served honorably in the active military, naval, or air service, whose last period of military, naval or air service terminated honorably and who died on or after November 30, 1993.
The spouse, widow or widower, minor child, or permanently dependent child, and certain unmarried adult children of any of the above eligible veterans.
The widow or widower of:
a member of the Armed Forces who was lost or buried at sea or officially determined to be missing in action.
a member of the Armed Forces who is interred in a US military cemetery overseas that is maintained by the American Battle Monuments Commission.
a member of the Armed Forces who is interred in Arlington National Cemetery as part of a group burial.
The surviving spouse, minor child, or permanently dependent child of any person already buried in Arlington National Cemetery.
The parents of a minor child, or permanently dependent child whose remains, based on the eligibility of a parent, are already buried in ANC. A spouse divorced from the primary eligible, or widowed and remarried, is not eligible for interment.
Provided certain conditions are met, a former member of the Armed Forces may be buried in the same grave with a close relative who is already buried and is the primary eligible.
| 85 |
Cato the Elder Sat, Aug 29, 2009 10:03:22am |
| 88 |
yesandno Sat, Aug 29, 2009 10:04:16am |
What a shame...
The heavens are crying...
maybe a tent on the roof of the UN would be possible.
///
| 89 |
realwest Sat, Aug 29, 2009 10:04:35am |
re: #70 unrealizedviewpoint
We reviewed all that jazz in the DT on the day Ted died.
Y'all can also look up Arlington in Wiki or just google for Arlington - their are a number of non- war hereos - hell some non-vets buried in Arlington's sacred ground.
| 91 |
unrealizedviewpoint Sat, Aug 29, 2009 10:04:49am |
| 92 |
pre-Boomer Marine brat Sat, Aug 29, 2009 10:04:50am |
re: #83 MandyManners
Just don't flip me the finger.
*eyes widening, swallows hard, nods vigorously*
Yes, ma'am.
| 93 |
cliffster Sat, Aug 29, 2009 10:05:51am |
re: #85 Cato the Elder
Plus, well, it's almost a decade. Show me anyone's picture at, say, 50, and then at 60...
| 94 |
MandyManners Sat, Aug 29, 2009 10:06:52am |
re: #92 pre-Boomer Marine brat
*eyes widening, swallows hard, nods vigorously*
Yes, ma'am.
Is that you, Marcel?
| 95 |
wrenchwench Sat, Aug 29, 2009 10:07:04am |
re: #84 vxbush
The surviving spouse, minor child, or permanently dependent child of any person already buried in Arlington National Cemetery.
"I'm not dead yet!"
| 97 |
pre-Boomer Marine brat Sat, Aug 29, 2009 10:07:59am |
| 99 |
Silvergirl Sat, Aug 29, 2009 10:08:45am |
re: #34 laZardo
W had a lot less gray hair in 2001, that's for sure. Stress of the job.
Nonstop campaigning is very demanding.
| 100 |
Walter L. Newton Sat, Aug 29, 2009 10:08:45am |
Could someone explain to me why we are making fun of a man who just died?
| 101 |
blangwort Sat, Aug 29, 2009 10:09:20am |
Just think, we won't get the opportunity to make jokes like this.
Oh well. I'm sure the comedians of the world will miss him.
| 102 |
Silvergirl Sat, Aug 29, 2009 10:10:04am |
re: #99 Silvergirl
Nonstop campaigning is very demanding.
My mistake. I thought we were still on the subject of President Obama.
| 103 |
MandyManners Sat, Aug 29, 2009 10:10:30am |
| 104 |
blangwort Sat, Aug 29, 2009 10:10:49am |
| 105 |
Cato the Elder Sat, Aug 29, 2009 10:11:23am |
re: #100 Walter L. Newton
Could someone explain to me why we are making fun of a man who just died?
Because jokes about carbon footprints and corpulence are always welcome?
Really, Walter, I'm with you.
| 106 |
midwestgak Sat, Aug 29, 2009 10:11:29am |
re: #100 Walter L. Newton
Could someone explain to me why we are making fun of a man who just died?
Human nature exposed.
| 107 |
debutaunt Sat, Aug 29, 2009 10:12:11am |
| 108 |
Silvergirl Sat, Aug 29, 2009 10:12:14am |
re: #100 Walter L. Newton
Could someone explain to me why we are making fun of a man who just died?
We? I didn't know you were. I'm not.
I thought it might at least wit till he's in the ground, but apparently not.
| 112 |
debutaunt Sat, Aug 29, 2009 10:13:21am |
| 114 |
Truck Monkey Sat, Aug 29, 2009 10:13:30am |
| 115 |
MandyManners Sat, Aug 29, 2009 10:13:39am |
re: #100 Walter L. Newton
Could someone explain to me why we are making fun of a man who just died?
Mine was not a joke.
| 116 |
Silvergirl Sat, Aug 29, 2009 10:14:03am |
| 117 |
Westward Ho Sat, Aug 29, 2009 10:14:32am |
Thanks for the info on Arlington guys, there are more than 300,000 people buried there
| 118 |
pre-Boomer Marine brat Sat, Aug 29, 2009 10:14:47am |
re: #103 MandyManners
A mime is a terrible thing to lose.
The perfect response to that would be silence, but that doesn't work here
/heh, we still have Sophie, even though they're not related
| 119 |
Charles Johnson Sat, Aug 29, 2009 10:14:56am |
Was there something unclear in my previous statements that I wouldn't tolerate bashing Ted Kennedy?
If you want to indulge the crappiest side of yourself, go do it at another blog. There are lots of places that will have no problem letting you post any nasty comments you like. If you post them here, you're going to lose your account.
| 120 |
Bob Dillon Sat, Aug 29, 2009 10:15:19am |
re: #111 cliffster
Perhaps it's just that when someone who you find contemptible is being praised on every media outlet as a hero, you react like that...
And the young, who are unaware of this mans history, will eat it up.
| 122 |
midwestgak Sat, Aug 29, 2009 10:15:54am |
re: #114 Truck Monkey
Mary Tyler Moore?
Oh. That was a funny episode. And looked into our souls. We do laugh to get through tough times.
| 123 |
wee fury Sat, Aug 29, 2009 10:15:54am |
Arlington National Cemetery is a beautiful place.
| 124 |
Cato the Elder Sat, Aug 29, 2009 10:15:56am |
re: #117 Westward Ho
Thanks for the info on Arlington guys, there are more than 300,000 people buried there
And every one of them a War Hero! Not a shirker among 'em.
Psst, wanna buy a bridge?
| 130 |
NJDhockeyfan Sat, Aug 29, 2009 10:19:48am |
| 131 |
midwestgak Sat, Aug 29, 2009 10:20:04am |
re: #124 Cato the Elder
And every one of them a War Hero! Not a shirker among 'em.
Psst, wanna buy a bridge?
I bought the Brooklyn. Which one do you have in mind?
| 132 |
pre-Boomer Marine brat Sat, Aug 29, 2009 10:20:30am |
Back to Gadafi, how popular is he inside Libya?
| 134 |
Charles Johnson Sat, Aug 29, 2009 10:21:14am |
re: #133 Baelzar
Apparently, you thought I was joking.
| 136 |
samsgran1948 Sat, Aug 29, 2009 10:21:28am |
| 137 |
sattv4u2 Sat, Aug 29, 2009 10:21:45am |
OT
New device allows the blind to 'see' with their tongues
[Link: gmy.news.yahoo.com...]
NEW!?!?!?Hell ,,, We Lizards have been doing that for eons!
| 138 |
Killgore Trout Sat, Aug 29, 2009 10:21:50am |
re: #132 pre-Boomer Marine brat
Back to Gadafi, how popular is he inside Libya?
Dictators don't have to be popular. I don't think it matters.
| 139 |
Cato the Elder Sat, Aug 29, 2009 10:22:00am |
re: #131 midwestgak
I bought the Brooklyn. Which one do you have in mind?
I was thinking of this nice structure in Minnesota. Here's a picture. Sorry, it's not on Google Earth, for some reason. Trust me.
| 140 |
midwestgak Sat, Aug 29, 2009 10:22:31am |
re: #139 Cato the Elder
I was thinking of this nice structure in Minnesota. Here's a picture. Sorry, it's not on Google Earth, for some reason. Trust me.
LOL.
| 141 |
Cato the Elder Sat, Aug 29, 2009 10:22:54am |
re: #138 Killgore Trout
Dictators don't have to be popular. I don't think it matters.
Nevertheless, I think he's pretty popular.
| 142 |
pre-Boomer Marine brat Sat, Aug 29, 2009 10:23:22am |
re: #138 Killgore Trout
Dictators don't have to be popular. I don't think it matters.
heh, yes, I know.
Still, some (like Hugo C) have a following.
I'm just curious.
| 143 |
Truck Monkey Sat, Aug 29, 2009 10:23:28am |
re: #132 pre-Boomer Marine brat
Back to Gadafi, how popular is he inside Libya?
I think that he won re-election to Colonel with 99.45% of the vote.
| 144 |
jcm Sat, Aug 29, 2009 10:23:33am |
re: #138 Killgore Trout
Dictators don't have to be popular. I don't think it matters.
100,000 will show up in a spontaneous show of love and admiration.
Show up or else...
| 145 |
unrealizedviewpoint Sat, Aug 29, 2009 10:23:46am |
Surely, you folks (who speak ill of the dead) have liberal friends? No?
Would you say such horrible things if today was the day of their burial?
| 146 |
calcajun Sat, Aug 29, 2009 10:23:46am |
re: #138 Killgore Trout
Dictators don't have to be popular. I don't think it matters.
"Like me or I'll kill you" pretty much sums up the attitude.
| 147 |
Killgore Trout Sat, Aug 29, 2009 10:24:28am |
Got the Tandori lamb shanks in the big green egg this morning. I'm trying a new technique of indirect cooking over a pan of water with garlic, ginger and herbs. I'm thinking about adding some peppers. Should be ready in about 12 hours.
| 148 |
calcajun Sat, Aug 29, 2009 10:25:11am |
re: #147 Killgore Trout
Got the Tandori lamb shanks in the big green egg this morning. I'm trying a new technique of indirect cooking over a pan of water with garlic, ginger and herbs. I'm thinking about adding some peppers. Should be ready in about 12 hours.
What wood are you using?
| 149 |
sattv4u2 Sat, Aug 29, 2009 10:25:37am |
re: #147 Killgore Trout
Got the Tandori lamb shanks in the big green egg this morning. I'm trying a new technique of indirect cooking over a pan of water with garlic, ginger and herbs. I'm thinking about adding some peppers. Should be ready in about 12 hours.
Heading to the airport now. I'll bring my own fork
| 150 |
badger1970 Sat, Aug 29, 2009 10:25:49am |
The Machiavellian tenet of "...better feared than loved" come to mind, but it doesn't hurt to have adoring throngs of peasants waving flags than AKs.
| 151 |
Truck Monkey Sat, Aug 29, 2009 10:25:50am |
re: #147 Killgore Trout
Got the Tandori lamb shanks in the big green egg this morning. I'm trying a new technique of indirect cooking over a pan of water with garlic, ginger and herbs. I'm thinking about adding some peppers. Should be ready in about 12 hours.
I'll be there. Do we need a side dish or some liquor?
| 152 |
Gang of One Sat, Aug 29, 2009 10:25:52am |
Getting back OT, I actually live in Englewood. I went to the yeshiva [The Moriah Hebrew Day School] that shares a perimeter with the Libyan mission. Mayor Mike Wildes [a family friend] and Rabbi Boteach were quite vocal about their opposotion to Qaddafi's arrival here. It was pretty much the buzz at the two largest Modern Orthodox schuls here -- East Hill Synagogue and Ahavath Torah. Although I did not go to services this AM [at a small congregation, Shomrei Emunah], word gets around very quickly at the shabbos luncheons here.
| 153 |
Cato the Elder Sat, Aug 29, 2009 10:26:37am |
re: #145 unrealizedviewpoint
Surely, you folks (who speak ill of the dead) have liberal friends? No?
Would you say such horrible things if today was the day of their burial?
Or, mutatis mutandis, when my best conservative friend dies, am I going to talk about what an effin' fascist she was?
| 154 |
Gang of One Sat, Aug 29, 2009 10:27:09am |
| 155 |
sattv4u2 Sat, Aug 29, 2009 10:27:10am |
| 156 |
Killgore Trout Sat, Aug 29, 2009 10:27:51am |
re: #148 calcajun
What wood are you using?
I'm just using coals. Since the cooking time is so long I think wood would add too much smokey flavor over time. If the fire starts to die down I'll throw on some pear wood.
| 157 |
cliffster Sat, Aug 29, 2009 10:28:00am |
| 158 |
Truck Monkey Sat, Aug 29, 2009 10:28:11am |
Susan Estrich is on Fox right now. My g-d she looks different. Her plastic surgery is very well done. Her voice seems to have changed too.
| 159 |
realwest Sat, Aug 29, 2009 10:28:58am |
re: #153 Cato the Elder
Or, mutatis mutandis, when my best conservative friend dies, am I going to talk about what an effin' fascist she was?
Probably.
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Shug Sat, Aug 29, 2009 10:29:25am |
re: #156 Killgore Trout
I'm just using coals. Since the cooking time is so long I think wood would add too much smokey flavor over time. If the fire starts to die down I'll throw on some pear wood.
I agree that too much smoke would really interfere with the tandoori spices.
Sounds really nice though.
12 hrs of low and slow those babies ought to be pretty tender
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Killgore Trout Sat, Aug 29, 2009 10:29:25am |
re: #151 Truck Monkey
I'll be there. Do we need a side dish or some liquor?
I'm no amature; I'm plenty stocked with booze. Side dish will be Spinach Daal and rice.
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Truck Monkey Sat, Aug 29, 2009 10:30:11am |
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Cato the Elder Sat, Aug 29, 2009 10:30:22am |
re: #159 realwest
Probably.
Nice. Hope you're well, Realwest. I think better of you than you do of me, apparently.
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Killgore Trout Sat, Aug 29, 2009 10:30:34am |
re: #160 Shug
12 hrs of low and slow those babies ought to be pretty tender
Last time I did it the meat dried out a little. Hopefully the pan of water will solve that problem.
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unrealizedviewpoint Sat, Aug 29, 2009 10:31:09am |
Rx: The Interstate Insurance Competition Cure
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pat Sat, Aug 29, 2009 10:31:51am |
re: #158 Truck Monkey
Susan Estrich is on Fox right now. My g-d she looks different. Her plastic surgery is very well done. Her voice seems to have changed too.
Likely cut out the whiskey for the weekend in honor of Ted'd passing.
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badger1970 Sat, Aug 29, 2009 10:32:05am |
re: #153 Cato the Elder
Too bad they don't teach Latin in schools.
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Gang of One Sat, Aug 29, 2009 10:32:53am |
re: #163 Cato the Elder
Nice. Hope you're well, Realwest. I think better of you than you do of me, apparently.
Cato, although I can't speak for Real, I think he was just funnin' ya.
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avanti Sat, Aug 29, 2009 10:33:34am |
re: #59 cliffster
I remember referring to some women as "girls" and receiving your wrath awhile back. I think they were athletes, like, "those girls can really play". I guess your convictions remain strong :^)
I'll mention to my 60 old wife that "girls night out" is inappropriate when talking about her Wednesday line dancing. /
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Cato the Elder Sat, Aug 29, 2009 10:33:51am |
Since Mandy was serious about the carbon thing, I suggest we pass a law forbidding airplanes from carrying dead people to their last resting places.
Of course, we'll need Arlington Easts in Iraq and Afghanistan, to start with. But that shouldn't be a problem for anyone.
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Silvergirl Sat, Aug 29, 2009 10:33:58am |
I was thinking of Ted's brother Bobby Kennedy today and the impromptu speech he gave to a crowd of black Americans who hadn't yet been told of the death of MLK Jr. It was supposed to be a campaign stop, but he turned out to be the one to give the the news of the assassination.
So I ask you tonight to return home, to say a prayer for the family of Martin Luther King, yeah that's true, but more importantly to say a prayer for our own country, which all of us love - a prayer for understanding and that compassion of which I spoke. We can do well in this country. We will have difficult times. We've had difficult times in the past. And we will have difficult times in the future. It is not the end of violence; it is not the end of lawlessness; and it's not the end of disorder.
But the vast majority of white people and the vast majority of black people in this country want to live together, want to improve the quality of our life, and want justice for all human beings that abide in our land.
Let us dedicate ourselves to what the Greeks wrote so many years ago: to tame the savageness of man and make gentle the life of this world.
Let us dedicate ourselves to that, and say a prayer for our country and for our people. Thank you very much.
It's all the more meanigful thinking he was gone himself a couple months later.
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Cato the Elder Sat, Aug 29, 2009 10:35:33am |
re: #167 badger1970
Too bad they don't teach Latin in schools.
True. I had to teach myself. And I'm Roman!
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realwest Sat, Aug 29, 2009 10:36:20am |
re: #163 Cato the Elder
Nice. Hope you're well, Realwest. I think better of you than you do of me, apparently.
When you refer to your best conservative friend as "she" and facist, I don't think it funny. And when you're talking about her dying, I find it even less amusing.
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jcm Sat, Aug 29, 2009 10:37:41am |
re: #167 badger1970
Too bad they don't teach Latin in schools.
Alas, I can't find an image of the window in question, I might have to go take one.
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calcajun Sat, Aug 29, 2009 10:37:48am |
re: #156 Killgore Trout
I'm just using coals. Since the cooking time is so long I think wood would add too much smokey flavor over time. If the fire starts to die down I'll throw on some pear wood.
I usually do that, too-- not the pear wood. But, I heard that once meat hits 140, it stops absorbing the smoke flavor. I just go to coals at that point or transfer it to the oven at 200
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Walter L. Newton Sat, Aug 29, 2009 10:38:20am |
re: #167 badger1970
Too bad they don't teach Latin in schools.
They taught latin in my school, required.
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jcm Sat, Aug 29, 2009 10:39:08am |
re: #178 Walter L. Newton
They taught latin in my school, required.
The used to have classes called Rhetoric and Logic too...
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Killgore Trout Sat, Aug 29, 2009 10:40:02am |
re: #177 calcajun
, I heard that once meat hits 140, it stops absorbing the smoke flavor.
Interesting. I hadn't heard that before.
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Walter L. Newton Sat, Aug 29, 2009 10:40:15am |
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Cato the Elder Sat, Aug 29, 2009 10:40:54am |
re: #173 realwest
When you refer to your best conservative friend as "she" and facist, I don't think it funny. And when you're talking about her dying, I find it even less amusing.
It was a hypothetical, Real. And "she" because I was being PC, for once. I had no one in particular in mind. No one is dead in my crowd. And I was replying to someone else's speculative query.
Go soak your head.
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cliffster Sat, Aug 29, 2009 10:41:04am |
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debutaunt Sat, Aug 29, 2009 10:41:41am |
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calcajun Sat, Aug 29, 2009 10:43:04am |
re: #180 Killgore Trout
Heard that on one of the Food Net's shows.
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NJDhockeyfan Sat, Aug 29, 2009 10:43:13am |
New bizarre twists in Clayton bombing
A federal search warrant obtained by the Post-Dispatch connects a former Democratic campaign strategist to a Clayton bombing last year that seriously injured an attorney.
About two months after the October bombing, federal law enforcement officials searched the downtown loft of Milton H. "Skip" Ohlsen III, seeking "evidence related to the planning, execution, and/or cover-up of the bombing in Clayton, Missouri, on October 16, 2008." Ohlsen in recent weeks has been at the center of a swirling political scandal that is threatening the political careers of at least two Missouri Democratic legislators.
The Clayton bombing injured attorney John L. Gillis of the Armstrong Teasdale firm. But investigators now believe Gillis was not the intended target of the bomb that exploded next to his car in the parking garage at 190 Carondelet Plaza.
Instead, as the Post-Dispatch first reported Monday evening on STLtoday.com, authorities suspect the bomb was intended for Richard J. Eisen, a former Husch Blackwell Sanders attorney. Eisen has led legal battles against Ohlsen and had an office in the Clayton building that was bombed.
Eisen, now an attorney at Growe, Eisen, Karlen, Eilerts & Ruth, LLC, represented Ohlsen's ex-wife, Michelle, in a divorce that was filed in December 2007. He also represented a Maryland Heights man who obtained a temporary restraining order against Ohlsen.
Holy crap!
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realwest Sat, Aug 29, 2009 10:43:51am |
re: #182 Cato the Elder
"Go soak your head." Well I'm certainly glad you think more of me than I do of you. Saves me from making a retort which might get me banned.
And you and I know which "conservative friend" your "she" meant.
Coy doesn't become you Cato.
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calcajun Sat, Aug 29, 2009 10:43:59am |
re: #181 Walter L. Newton
Prove it to me?
If she weighs the same as a duck, then she's made of wood and therefore a witch.
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midwestgak Sat, Aug 29, 2009 10:44:05am |
re: #179 jcm
The used to have classes called Rhetoric and Logic too...
Both where taught in the college I went to. Not in HS.
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Dad O' Blondes Sat, Aug 29, 2009 10:44:41am |
re: #37 Racer X
A lack of direct comment from His Holiness carries little significance. And as pointed out in the linked article, the influence of the Kennedy family in American Roman Catholicism has waned over the years.
In the end, Ted Kennedy, will go out the same way he came in and in the eyes of God, he is simply a man. Like all of us, Ted Kennedy will account for the ledger representing his accomplishments and failures.
I'm quite sure though, the Pope, and many of the faithful, will remember Ted Kennedy in their prayers.
.
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calcajun Sat, Aug 29, 2009 10:44:48am |
re: #187 realwest
"Coyto"? Sounds like a breed of Asian fish.
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badger1970 Sat, Aug 29, 2009 10:45:09am |
re: #178 Walter L. Newton
My mother, pre-Vatican II was sternly taught it. My school (WHS '89, WI) only Spanish (which I learned more working summer jobs at a canning plant) and truth be told, that teacher was not very good.
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Killgore Trout Sat, Aug 29, 2009 10:45:10am |
re: #186 NJDhockeyfan
Yeah, that's a freaky story. I still can't figure out if the motive was personal or political. Maybe a little of both.
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Killgore Trout Sat, Aug 29, 2009 10:47:37am |
re: #190 Dad O' Blondes
I'm quite sure though, the Pope, and many of the faithful, will remember Ted Kennedy in their prayers.
Most American Catholics don't really pay much attention to the Vatican anyways. In political terms, that's probably a good thing anyways. We wouldn't want the Pope dictating how American politicians vote.
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Cato the Elder Sat, Aug 29, 2009 10:48:03am |
re: #187 realwest
"Go soak your head." Well I'm certainly glad you think more of me than I do of you. Saves me from making a retort which might get me banned.
And you and I know which "conservative friend" your "she" meant.
Coy doesn't become you Cato.
You're full of it. I had no one in mind.
And I'm never coy. If I had meant Sarah, you'd bloody well have known it. Anyway, she's not conservative, she's wack, and she's too stupid to be a fascist. And I wish her long life so I can mock her here and elsewhere.
Now, about that head? You'll need to pull it out before you can soak it.
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realwest Sat, Aug 29, 2009 10:49:03am |
re: #186 NJDhockeyfan
From your link: "Eisen, a former president of the St. Louis County Bar Association, said Monday that authorities had not told him that he was the intended target of the bombing. "I can tell you that no member of any law enforcement agency has ever indicated that to me," he said. "
Assuming that's true, I wonder why he wasn't warned?
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NJDhockeyfan Sat, Aug 29, 2009 10:49:49am |
re: #193 Killgore Trout
It seems Missouri has a few political scandals going on right now. Are they competing with Illinois?
ST. LOUIS -Missouri state Sen. Jeff Smith and Rep. Steve Brown today pleaded guilty to felony charges related to Smith's 2004 campaign for the U.S. Congress.
Gov. Jay Nixon called a special election for Nov. 3 to fill the two vacancies.
"The charges to which these officials pleaded guilty are a violation of the public’s trust, and their resignations are both necessary and appropriate," Nixon said in a statment.Smith, Brown and a former Smith campaign worker, Nick Adams, pleaded guilty in U.S. District Court in St. Louis to of conspiracy to obstruct justice in a Federal Elections Commission investigation in the aftermath of the 2004 Congressional election won by Russ Carnahan. Additionally, Smith and Adams pleaded guilty to another county of conspiracy to obstruct justice in a federal grand jury investigation this year.
Smith and Brown, both Democrats from St. Louis, also resigned their seats today.
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Charles Johnson Sat, Aug 29, 2009 10:49:53am |
By the way, since people have posted it in the spinoff links several times already, I'm going to delete links to that ugly article by Mark Steyn. National Review, which started as a home for rational conservatism, has really taken a turn for the worse with that one.
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Cato the Elder Sat, Aug 29, 2009 10:50:41am |
re: #199 Charles
By the way, since people have posted it in the spinoff links several times already, I'm going to delete links to that ugly article by Mark Steyn. National Review, which started as a home for rational conservatism, has really taken a turn for the worse with that one.
And Mark Steyn lost me some time ago, already.
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SanFranciscoZionist Sat, Aug 29, 2009 10:51:11am |
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Cato the Elder Sat, Aug 29, 2009 10:52:12am |
re: #190 Dad O' Blondes
A lack of direct comment from His Holiness carries little significance. And as pointed out in the linked article, the influence of the Kennedy family in American Roman Catholicism has waned over the years.
In the end, Ted Kennedy, will go out the same way he came in and in the eyes of God, he is simply a man. Like all of us, Ted Kennedy will account for the ledger representing his accomplishments and failures.
I'm quite sure though, the Pope, and many of the faithful, will remember Ted Kennedy in their prayers.
Amen.
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lostlakehiker Sat, Aug 29, 2009 10:52:16am |
re: #134 Charles
Apparently, you thought I was joking.
Orson Scott Card has a science fiction series in which a new institution has emerged: the Speaker for the Dead. The speaker tells the truth of a man's life, as nearly as he can discern it, including both bad and good, and if possible, the reasons and motives behind both.
To do this for Kennedy would be immensely difficult. There would be much to say on both sides of the ledger.
But we don't have that institution, and it is understood that this forum is not the place for efforts to fill the shoes of the "speaker".
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SanFranciscoZionist Sat, Aug 29, 2009 10:52:24am |
re: #39 Truck Monkey
He should just shave it off. Maybe he still will. Black dudes look good with a shaved head.
I think that might be a step too far in modernity for most people.
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SanFranciscoZionist Sat, Aug 29, 2009 10:53:47am |
re: #42 cliffster
White dudes look, as Dave Barry says, "like a giant thumb"
There was an unfortunate trend, when I was in college, for girls to shave their heads, or buzz their hair down to nothing.
Black girls often looked quite good.
It doesn't work so well if you're of the Caucasian persuasion.
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SanFranciscoZionist Sat, Aug 29, 2009 10:54:25am |
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realwest Sat, Aug 29, 2009 10:55:17am |
Well y'all I'm outta here - plumbers finally fixed everything and I've got chores to do.
Hope you all have a great day and that I get the chance to see you all down the road.
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MacDuff Sat, Aug 29, 2009 10:55:21am |
re: #206 SanFranciscoZionist
There was an unfortunate trend, when I was in college, for girls to shave their heads, or buzz their hair down to nothing.
Black girls often looked quite good.
It doesn't work so well if you're of the Caucasian persuasion.
Yeah, it make you look like an ax murderer or a Neo Nazi.
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SanFranciscoZionist Sat, Aug 29, 2009 10:55:38am |
re: #47 Bobibutu
When the leader sleeps, the soldier stays awake, and it’s the women who do the fighting. Gaddafi trusts his security to ladies only. The head of the Libyan Jamahiriya has a total of 300-400 girls on his security detail. According to the official story, all of them are virgins. Selection is done by Gaddafi himself. This whim has an explanation for it: In ancient times, they believed that the best guards were either virgins or lesbians, the underlying belief being that they could sense threats, the so-called “wind of death.” The girls were even sterilized to make them more aggressive toward men. There can be different views on these stories, but it was the girls with Kalashnikovs who saved Gaddafi’s life several times. During the assassination, they shielded him from gunfire and grenades. One died, two others were wounded. The bodyguards are with Gaddafi day and night. Each of them can handle several strong men. According to some sources, most of the girls are Cuban.
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I think he's serious about these gals abilities ...
Can they retire and get married, and then go into training or something?
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Gus Sat, Aug 29, 2009 10:56:20am |
re: #199 Charles
By the way, since people have posted it in the spinoff links several times already, I'm going to delete links to that ugly article by Mark Steyn. National Review, which started as a home for rational conservatism, has really taken a turn for the worse with that one.
I'm looking at the front page of NRO as we type. I agree with you. As they say in the vernacular regarding what NRO put there, that ain't cool. The man hasn't even been buried yet. Bad enough we've already heard about what he speaks of ad infinitum.
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debutaunt Sat, Aug 29, 2009 10:56:42am |
re: #205 MacDuff
Does that mean that Stevie Wonder is God?
That is the updated punchline. It used to be Ray Charles.
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Gus Sat, Aug 29, 2009 10:57:57am |
Regarding the topic we should thank Rep. Steve Rothman (D-NJ) for his efforts in canceling Gadafi's visit to Englewood, NJ.
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SanFranciscoZionist Sat, Aug 29, 2009 11:00:05am |
re: #146 calcajun
"Like me or I'll kill you" pretty much sums up the attitude.
Dictators rule through fear, but also through providing stuff, and giving people a sense of security. You don't want to be too unpopular.
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SanFranciscoZionist Sat, Aug 29, 2009 11:04:52am |
re: #209 MacDuff
Yeah, it make you look like an ax murderer or a Neo Nazi.
My rabbi once commented, in his adorable German accent, that it bothered him that perfectly nice young men now wore Doc Martens and shaved their heads for fashion's sake. It made it so much harder to tell if people were neo-Nazis or not.
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SanFranciscoZionist Sat, Aug 29, 2009 11:06:05am |
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Gus Sat, Aug 29, 2009 11:12:40am |
re: #216 SanFranciscoZionist
Sen. Lautenberg made a very good statement, as well. The Jersey leg. people really did not want this.
Longtime member that he is. I remember writing to him a great deal when I lived in New Jersey. Glad you brought him up because I looked up his Wiki and finally was reminded of who he replaced, Millicent Fenwick who was an interesting Republican of her time.
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Gus Sat, Aug 29, 2009 11:15:05am |
re: #217 Gus 802
Correction. He didn't replace Fenwick they just both ran for the senate.
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Age Of Freedom Sat, Aug 29, 2009 11:16:46am |
Charles,
Just for the sheer amount of name tags you placed for this topic, I would given this topic a hundred updings, if I could.
Good late morning laugh.
Thank you.
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