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1 Sharmuta  Tue, Nov 3, 2009 3:15:25pm

Weezer rocks. So under-appreciated.

2 Daniel Ballard  Tue, Nov 3, 2009 3:17:46pm

Ahhh This Is nice. Turning it up now.

3 Charles Johnson  Tue, Nov 3, 2009 3:17:56pm

Full size of the album cover. Great shot.

Image: 51B3bKVglNL._SS500_.jpg

4 Daniel Ballard  Tue, Nov 3, 2009 3:20:37pm

Was the girl Meagan Fox with new hair?

5 jeremy0114  Tue, Nov 3, 2009 3:21:14pm

Nice... What a hottie... Makes me want to pull out the '29 delivery for one more spin before winter...

6 reine.de.tout  Tue, Nov 3, 2009 3:21:21pm

CHARLES - I tried to buy a book for my Kindle in your Amazon Store. The book has a Kindle version, but I could only get to the hard-cover version in the "LGF Store". To get the Kindle version, I had to just to to Amazon, not through LGF. Shouldn't I be able to make purchases through your link for anything that Amazon has? Or just the things that are in the "LGF" store?

7 MandyManners  Tue, Nov 3, 2009 3:22:06pm

If I didn't love my Calvin, that would make and excellent avatar.

8 Mich-again  Tue, Nov 3, 2009 3:22:48pm

re: #3 Charles

How'd they get the dog to float like that?
/

9 Charles Johnson  Tue, Nov 3, 2009 3:23:07pm

re: #6 reine.de.tout

CHARLES - I tried to buy a book for my Kindle in your Amazon Store. The book has a Kindle version, but I could only get to the hard-cover version in the "LGF Store". To get the Kindle version, I had to just to to Amazon, not through LGF. Shouldn't I be able to make purchases through your link for anything that Amazon has? Or just the things that are in the "LGF" store?

Kindle books don't go through the associate program right now. When people buy Kindle books, there's no cut to the associate, e.g., me. I guess that's why they don't show up in the LGF associate store...

11 reine.de.tout  Tue, Nov 3, 2009 3:24:08pm

re: #9 Charles

Kindle books don't go through the associate program right now. When people buy Kindle books, there's no cut to the associate, e.g., me. I guess that's why they don't show up in the LGF associate store...

Oh.
Sorry 'bout that.

12 Killgore Trout  Tue, Nov 3, 2009 3:24:33pm

re: #10 Killgore Trout
Oops, wrong thread. Istink.

13 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You  Tue, Nov 3, 2009 3:25:58pm

re: #8 Mich-again

How'd they get the dog to float like that?
/

There was an alien anti-gravity ray involved...

/or maybe a strip of bacon. ;)

14 SixDegrees  Tue, Nov 3, 2009 3:28:37pm

In the good news column: Bardwell Resigns.

The Louisiana JoP who refused to marry interracial couples called it quits today. Took a bit longer than I had expected - and hoped - but good riddance.

15 webevintage  Tue, Nov 3, 2009 3:29:15pm

re: #9 Charles

Kindle books don't go through the associate program right now. When people buy Kindle books, there's no cut to the associate, e.g., me. I guess that's why they don't show up in the LGF associate store...

well that kinda sucks...

16 Daniel Ballard  Tue, Nov 3, 2009 3:30:43pm

re: #3 Charles
Great break in my afternoon there.
A humble attempt to return the favor. The lyrics work with the previous thread...
Say it ain't so.

[Link: www.youtube.com...]

17 Killgore Trout  Tue, Nov 3, 2009 3:31:49pm

re: #16 Rightwingconspirator

They really are a great band.

18 jhrhv  Tue, Nov 3, 2009 3:32:30pm

I used to play that Buddy Holly happy days them video they did that was on I think the Win95 install cd all the time. Yes Weezer does rock.

19 jhrhv  Tue, Nov 3, 2009 3:37:30pm

Should have included this.

Weezer - Buddy Holly

20 karmic_inquisitor  Tue, Nov 3, 2009 3:37:37pm

Charles -

This video lacks warnings on sex and violence. You will never make it as a social conservative.

Thank goodness.

21 wrenchwench  Tue, Nov 3, 2009 3:39:41pm

The guy that introduced me to Weezer had his own band in Seattle, but it must not have been a great one, because he was a bike mechanic. He still shaved his legs, even though he had not raced in 10 years. He said it was because his wife liked it. Then she left him, but he kept on shavin'.

22 Mich-again  Tue, Nov 3, 2009 3:41:51pm

What will the Right Wing Purity Council make of this. Pagan Rites for Queens GOP Council Candidate

Forget the mayoral, comptroller and public advocate races. The best political show in town is taking place in Bayside, Queens where leaders are wrestling with the question of whether a strong Republican city council nominee should be forced from his race -- just because he's a card-carrying pagan.

The candidate in question is GOP council nominee Dan Halloran who was revealed in a September 17 story in the Queens Tribune to be a member of a religious organization that is, well - heathen. Here's how the Tribune described it:

"Halloran is the 'First Atheling,' or King, of Normandy, a branch of the Theod faith of pre-Christian Heathen religions assembled in the Greater New York area. A group of dedicated fellow pagans swear their allegiance to him through oaths of fidelity, allowing luck from a series of ancient gods - specifically the 'Norse' or 'Germanic' gods Odin, Tyr and Freyr - to pass through the King to his kinsmen."

23 Daniel Ballard  Tue, Nov 3, 2009 3:48:00pm

re: #17 Killgore Trout

I'm old enough to be a classic rocker. Ever heard of the vast Cal Jam concert? But ya know fresh music is like fresh produce.

24 Irenicum  Tue, Nov 3, 2009 3:48:39pm

Great video. Sorry guys, but I'd go with the hot babe!

25 Daniel Ballard  Tue, Nov 3, 2009 3:48:39pm

re: #19 jhrhv

embedding disabled?

26 Irenicum  Tue, Nov 3, 2009 3:49:52pm

re: #3 Charles

When I first looked at the cover I wasn't sure if the dog was flying or humping. Thanks for the clarification!

27 Irenicum  Tue, Nov 3, 2009 3:52:11pm

re: #14 SixDegrees

I just saw that on twitter too. It's about frikkin' time! Good riddance is right.

28 Daniel Ballard  Tue, Nov 3, 2009 3:54:35pm

re: #27 Irenicum


[Link: www.cnn.com...]

29 Tiny Alien Kitties are Watching You  Tue, Nov 3, 2009 4:00:43pm

I can't get over how bad George Hutchins campaign website is, he is running for GOP in the 4th district in North Carolina in 2010.

It has everything, bright red background, RANDOM capitalization OF words, multiple font colors, random quotes and slogans, banners for a dozen different far right groups, "Supports FOX News" banners featured prominently at the top and then scattered around elsewhere. The Alamo!, Windsor castle (wtf?), Teddy Roosevelt as a rough rider, and Ronald Reagan in Berlin.

It looks worse than most teenagers myspace pages that I have seen, or at least more busy. Maybe his grandson made the page for him or something?

[Link: www.georgehutchins.com...]

30 Dionysus  Tue, Nov 3, 2009 4:01:24pm

Not a bad song, but Weezer has been fading, they should have quit after Maladroit.

31 Irenicum  Tue, Nov 3, 2009 4:02:00pm

re: #28 Rightwingconspirator

Thanks. I just posted the same news to my FB page.

32 freetoken  Tue, Nov 3, 2009 4:02:35pm

re: #29 ausador

Perhaps he studied website design at The Shrieky Harpy Institute for Better Web Sites?

33 Aye Pod  Tue, Nov 3, 2009 4:03:34pm

The Indelicates "America" - Winner Of the Prestigious VPME best Video Award 2008

34 wrenchwench  Tue, Nov 3, 2009 4:03:37pm

re: #30 Dionysus

Not a bad song, but Weezer has been fading, they should have quit after Maladroit.

Welcome, hatchling.

35 Cato the Elder  Tue, Nov 3, 2009 4:03:38pm

That dog looks a lot like my dog. Only on meth...

Keep innocent dogs off drugs!

36 SixDegrees  Tue, Nov 3, 2009 4:05:28pm

re: #29 ausador

I can't get over how bad George Hutchins campaign website is, he is running for GOP in the 4th district in North Carolina in 2010.

It has everything, bright red background, RANDOM capitalization OF words, multiple font colors, random quotes and slogans, banners for a dozen different far right groups, "Supports FOX News" banners featured prominently at the top and then scattered around elsewhere. The Alamo!, Windsor castle (wtf?), Teddy Roosevelt as a rough rider, and Ronald Reagan in Berlin.

It looks worse than most teenagers myspace pages that I have seen, or at least more busy. Maybe his grandson made the page for him or something?

[Link: www.georgehutchins.com...]

Looks home made. It reminds me of the sort of "design" we used to see when desktop typesetting first became available to the masses. I was in the printing business at the time, and had done "real" typesetting for years, and...well, there's just something about a single page that uses every single typeface available on the user's machine, in every available primary color, that makes me cringe.

We used to call it "ransom note typography" and this web site has exactly the same look to it.

37 Daniel Ballard  Tue, Nov 3, 2009 4:06:41pm

re: #31 Irenicum
Sharing good news is far more fun.

re: #30 Dionysus

Welcome. Sorry to disagree first off but I'm glad they keep writing and playing. who knows when they might really get better than ever? How else to kick up those tiny little play lists on uber-corporate FM?

38 oh_dude  Tue, Nov 3, 2009 4:07:38pm

Weezer is funny, but that dog is even funnier :-) HEE HEE!

BTW, if there are any Seinfeld fans out there, Amazon is having a sale on all of the complete season DVD sets for $15! each. Regularly $29.99-$35.00

39 Daniel Ballard  Tue, Nov 3, 2009 4:08:01pm

Off to the subway and home!

40 oh_dude  Tue, Nov 3, 2009 4:08:35pm

re: #38 oh_dude

Woops! Here's the link.

41 Digital Display  Tue, Nov 3, 2009 4:08:51pm

My new favorite Album: Shaw-Blades Influences

911 may I help you?
Yes.. I think I'm having a heart attack
Why sir?
Charles just posted a track from Shaw-Blades
Sir?
Yes..He posted a track from Shaw-Blades..
Sir? I'm not seeing that on LGF
Send an ambulance stat...I'm not feeling so well
Sir? Is this a crank call?
No Shaw-blades on LGF?
No sir..
Is there Anybody at the Fire dept that knows CPR?
Yes sir..
Well ...What is taking so long?
/

42 Aye Pod  Tue, Nov 3, 2009 4:09:47pm

re: #29 ausador

I can't get over how bad George Hutchins campaign website is, he is running for GOP in the 4th district in North Carolina in 2010.

It has everything, bright red background, RANDOM capitalization OF words, multiple font colors, random quotes and slogans, banners for a dozen different far right groups, "Supports FOX News" banners featured prominently at the top and then scattered around elsewhere. The Alamo!, Windsor castle (wtf?), Teddy Roosevelt as a rough rider, and Ronald Reagan in Berlin.

It looks worse than most teenagers myspace pages that I have seen, or at least more busy. Maybe his grandson made the page for him or something?

[Link: www.georgehutchins.com...]

Looks like a cross between Pammy Gellers site and David Icke's site. Whoever designed it almost certainly has mental issues.

43 The Left  Tue, Nov 3, 2009 4:10:48pm

re: #32 freetoken

Perhaps he studied website design at The Shrieky Harpy Institute for Better Web Sites?

The Shrieking Harpy Insititute for Technology: S.H.I.T.

44 Sheila Broflovski  Tue, Nov 3, 2009 4:15:09pm

re: #29 ausador

I can't get over how bad George Hutchins campaign website is, he is running for GOP in the 4th district in North Carolina in 2010.

It has everything, bright red background, RANDOM capitalization OF words, multiple font colors, random quotes and slogans, banners for a dozen different far right groups, "Supports FOX News" banners featured prominently at the top and then scattered around elsewhere. The Alamo!, Windsor castle (wtf?), Teddy Roosevelt as a rough rider, and Ronald Reagan in Berlin.

It looks worse than most teenagers myspace pages that I have seen, or at least more busy. Maybe his grandson made the page for him or something?

[Link: www.georgehutchins.com...]

OMFG that is migraine-inducing.

45 wrenchwench  Tue, Nov 3, 2009 4:18:22pm

re: #41 HoosierHoops

My new favorite Album: Shaw-Blades Influences

911 may I help you?
Yes.. I think I'm having a heart attack
Why sir?
Charles just posted a track from Shaw-Blades
Sir?
Yes..He posted a track from Shaw-Blades..
Sir? I'm not seeing that on LGF
Send an ambulance stat...I'm not feeling so well
Sir? Is this a crank call?
No Shaw-blades on LGF?
No sir..
Is there Anybody at the Fire dept that knows CPR?
Yes sir..
Well ...What is taking so long?
/

FTFY. Not that I want to see you have a heart attack...

46 reine.de.tout  Tue, Nov 3, 2009 4:18:30pm

Some interesting twitter items from Jake Tapper:


prelim exit poll data: 57% NJ voters, 51% VA voters approve Obama overall job performance

prelim exit poll data: 90% NJ voters + 85% VA voters worried about direction of the economy

prelim exit poll data, NJ: 19% say they cast their vote in part to express support for Obama, 20% in opposition, 60% not a factor

prelim exit poll data, VA: 18% say they cast their vote in part to express support for Obama, 24% in opposition, 55% not a factor

47 Irenicum  Tue, Nov 3, 2009 4:18:56pm

So apparently the reincarnated V enterprise is starting on ABC tonight and some on the left are saying that it's got anti Obama code in it. This should be fun. I wonder if orally taitz will "discover" pics of Barack eating hamsters! He's a space lizard after all!!! aaa!!!

48 The Sanity Inspector  Tue, Nov 3, 2009 4:21:03pm

re: #44 Alouette

OMFG that is migraine-inducing.

It looks like a geocities site circa 1998.

49 The Sanity Inspector  Tue, Nov 3, 2009 4:22:31pm

It is indeed a groovy cover. However, the single most groovy album cover in the history of recorded music is Thelonious Monk's "Underground".

50 austin_blue  Tue, Nov 3, 2009 4:23:13pm

re: #3 Charles

Full size of the album cover. Great shot.

[Link: ecx.images-amazon.com...]

Charles-

Very interesting article in the Science Times today on Creationism in the Islamic World. Note that a) we can't get a look at Kingdom textbooks, and b) Kingdom-funded schools in the West are much more likely to produce YECs (50% in Canada vs. 20% in Pakistan). Good stuff!

[Link: www.nytimes.com...]

51 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Nov 3, 2009 4:28:06pm

The Weezer guitar tone is immense, I love it.

52 austin_blue  Tue, Nov 3, 2009 4:29:39pm

re: #49 The Sanity Inspector

It is indeed a groovy cover. However, the single most groovy album cover in the history of recorded music is Thelonious Monk's "Underground".

As opposed to this:

Image: johnbult.JPG

And that, my friends, was a *marketing decision*.

53 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Nov 3, 2009 4:30:22pm

re: #29 ausador

That Hutchins site is BREATHTAKING. It reminds me of The Practice Internet my friend made. (warning, makes MIDI noise)

54 Dionysus  Tue, Nov 3, 2009 4:32:18pm

re: #34 wrenchwench

Catching the registration windows here is near impossible, it took months.

re: #37 Rightwingconspirator

Maybe, but it's not often bands late in their careers make a high quality album when their recent material hasn't been too hot, but we can hope. I got the red album right when it came out but only found a couple good tracks, so I won't be rushing out to get this one, maybe I'll borrow it.

55 ArchangelMichael  Tue, Nov 3, 2009 4:32:45pm

re: #53 WindUpBird

That Hutchins site is BREATHTAKING. It reminds me of The Practice Internet my friend made. (warning, makes MIDI noise)

Epic...

56 Capitalist Tool  Tue, Nov 3, 2009 4:34:22pm

re: #54 Dionysus

Catching the registration windows here is near impossible, it took months.

re: #37 Rightwingconspirator

Maybe, but it's not often bands late in their careers make a high quality album when their recent material hasn't been too hot, but we can hope. I got the red album right when it came out but only found a couple good tracks, so I won't be rushing out to get this one, maybe I'll borrow it.


Sample Sample

58 SpaceJesus  Tue, Nov 3, 2009 4:36:50pm

I knew I liked Charles for some reason

59 abbyadams  Tue, Nov 3, 2009 4:37:04pm

re: #29 ausador

WOW. Just, wow.

We must use all of our resources NOW, to prevent ALL future U.S. Generations from suffering under the same bondage which were forced upon all of us, due to the so-called 1964 Civil Rights Act.

Whoa.

60 Mad Al-Jaffee  Tue, Nov 3, 2009 4:37:27pm

Good one from The Onion tonight:

[Link: www.theonion.com...]

The Glenn Beck video story is pretty funny, but I don't know it it's appropriate to post here.

61 Wozza Matter?  Tue, Nov 3, 2009 4:37:39pm

do any of you want to destroy my sweater?...

62 Daniel Ballard  Tue, Nov 3, 2009 4:40:15pm

Breaking News
TMOBILE is near totally down nationally. Your truly is stuck with out a ride home since I can not reach the wife... If you have Tmobile, plan on land lines for a bit until this is fixed. Geez after sidekick you would think they would lewarn...

63 Ojoe  Tue, Nov 3, 2009 4:40:22pm
64 Taqyia2Me  Tue, Nov 3, 2009 4:41:33pm

re: #63 Ojoe

Upding for the awesome beauty but not the burned out nature of same...

65 Capitalist Tool  Tue, Nov 3, 2009 4:41:59pm

re: #29 ausador

The editor apparently never made it past freshman comp.

66 Ojoe  Tue, Nov 3, 2009 4:42:21pm

re: #64 Taqyia2Me

The fires were beautiful in a way too.

BBL

67 Shiplord Kirel  Tue, Nov 3, 2009 4:42:33pm

re: #29 ausador

I can't get over how bad George Hutchins campaign website is, he is running for GOP in the 4th district in North Carolina in 2010.

It has everything, bright red background, RANDOM capitalization OF words, multiple font colors, random quotes and slogans, banners for a dozen different far right groups, "Supports FOX News" banners featured prominently at the top and then scattered around elsewhere. The Alamo!, Windsor castle (wtf?), Teddy Roosevelt as a rough rider, and Ronald Reagan in Berlin.

It looks worse than most teenagers myspace pages that I have seen, or at least more busy. Maybe his grandson made the page for him or something?

[Link: www.georgehutchins.com...]

Wow! That is seriously messed up. He has a "Stop Marijuana Use" banner but says nothing about other hallucinogens. Maybe there's a reason.

68 webevintage  Tue, Nov 3, 2009 4:42:59pm

re: #47 Irenicum

So apparently the reincarnated V enterprise is starting on ABC tonight and some on the left are saying that it's got anti Obama code in it. This should be fun. I wonder if orally taitz will "discover" pics of Barack eating hamsters! He's a space lizard after all!!! aaa!!!

hahahahaha
We were watching the old show earlier and I had forgotten about the hamsters.

All I hope is that V is good.
The new shows this season have sucked and with LOST not on until next year and Battlestar gone (and Caprica? where is Caprica?) I've got my fingers crossed that I'll get a scifi fix from it.

69 Irenicum  Tue, Nov 3, 2009 4:43:30pm

re: #67 Shiplord Kirel

Yeah, he's obviously all methed up.
/?

70 Mad Al-Jaffee  Tue, Nov 3, 2009 4:43:40pm

re: #13 ausador

There was an alien anti-gravity ray involved...

/or maybe a strip of bacon. ;)

No, they just took the baby from that Nirvana album cover and photoshopped it.

71 Irenicum  Tue, Nov 3, 2009 4:45:44pm

re: #68 webevintage

Yeah, the new Prisoner is coming out very soon too. And it stars Jesus! OK, it's Jim Caviezel. I own the old show and still love it. I hope the new one isn't too bad.

72 Gearhead  Tue, Nov 3, 2009 4:45:56pm

re: #67 Shiplord Kirel

...other hallucinogens. Maybe there's a reason.

Those are required for the site's colors to appear calm and soothing.

73 jhrhv  Tue, Nov 3, 2009 4:48:08pm

re: #49 The Sanity Inspector

I've always liked this album cover. This one is from back in the days when they were actually albums.

King Crimson 21st Century Schizoid Man

74 Irenicum  Tue, Nov 3, 2009 4:48:14pm

re: #68 webevintage

Actually, the only show I really like right now is Better Off Ted. It's incredibly funny and has very smart writing.

75 Irenicum  Tue, Nov 3, 2009 4:49:34pm

re: #73 jhrhv

Some serious acid going on there. That was some great music though.

76 Bloodnok  Tue, Nov 3, 2009 4:49:47pm

For fans of chicken pickin' and rockabilly. James Burton, Albert Lee and Chet Atkins.

77 Sharmuta  Tue, Nov 3, 2009 4:51:55pm

Is albusteve here? I thought he might find this tasty.

78 MandyManners  Tue, Nov 3, 2009 4:53:18pm

re: #39 Rightwingconspirator

Off to the subway and home!

You live in the subway?

79 Capitalist Tool  Tue, Nov 3, 2009 4:53:43pm

re: #68 webevintage

hahahahaha
We were watching the old show earlier and I had forgotten about the hamsters.

All I hope is that V is good.
The new shows this season have sucked and with LOST not on until next year and Battlestar gone (and Caprica? where is Caprica?) I've got my fingers crossed that I'll get a scifi fix from it.


V seems to be typical droll predictable TV fare... finding now, after about the 1st 6 minutes of the program, that I've wandered back to my keyboard, unconcerned with earth's fate, rather thinking it wouldn't be too bad in the clutches of Lizarddom.

80 Shiplord Kirel  Tue, Nov 3, 2009 4:54:28pm

Also on Hutchens's site:
"Teddy Roosevelt...Roughrider...last US President in direct combat."

It depends on what one might mean by direct but I think JFK's encounters with the Japanese were pretty direct. Harry Truman commanded a WW1 artillery battery whose guns had a maximum range of just 7500 yards and were well within reach of German counter-battery fire, not to mention the odd sniper and fast-moving infantry advance. Bush 41's combat experience involved the rather direct process of bombing and strafing Japanese forces. Being shot down into the sea with the loss of your crewmates is certainly not a subtle gesture by the other side.

Perhaps Hutchens is under the impression that TR was already President when he led the Rough Riders up Kettle Hill in 1898?

81 jhrhv  Tue, Nov 3, 2009 4:55:05pm

re: #75 Irenicum

Back in the mid 80's I went to a Robert Fripp concert. It was Robert Fripp and the League of Crafty Guitarists. It was 12 guys all playing guitars. No singing no other instruments. It was in an auditorium that could hold about 500. There were less then 100 people there. The power went out about halfway through the concert. They unplugged from their amps moved their chairs to the front of the stage and told everyone to move down closer to the stage liked it happened all the time. They played the rest of the show in emergency lighting. Great great show.

82 ArchangelMichael  Tue, Nov 3, 2009 4:55:16pm

re: #68 webevintage

Caprica is supposed to air its first post-pilot episode Jan 22, 2010.

83 Achilles Tang  Tue, Nov 3, 2009 4:56:27pm

A question about vaccination and swine flue in particular, please. This for a conversation where a family member needs education that is not from a family member; me.

I could google this and I know the answers, but does anyone have a good authoritative link, scientific, that best summarizes the reasons for getting vaccinated for Swine flu, particularly for the young?

84 KingKenrod  Tue, Nov 3, 2009 4:57:36pm

I love the Spike Jonze video to "Undone".

The music video for "Undone" was Weezer's first music video. According to Rivers' Edge: The Weezer Story by John D. Luerssen, the band insisted that the video not have anything to do with a sweater. Yet Geffen received twenty five treatments for the video, all involving sweaters. The video marks one of the early directorial efforts of Spike Jonze, whose pitch was simply "A blue stage, a steadicam, a pack of wild dogs."[3] The $60,000 video was shot on a steadicam in one unbroken take, featuring the band playing to a sped up version of the song. When played at a slower speed, the illusion is created that the band is playing the song in the correct time, yet moving in slow motion. The one take was shot over twenty five times and the final version is somewhere between shot #15 and shot #20, in which the band had abandoned the idea of taking the video seriously at all. The humor was brought on by the frustration of shooting the same take over and over to a sped up version of the song as well as the fact that one of the dogs defecated on Patrick Wilson's bass drum pedal. The video became an instant hit on MTV.[4]
85 jhrhv  Tue, Nov 3, 2009 4:57:36pm

re: #83 Naso Tang

Go to the CDC website. They lay it out in plain terms.

86 Randall Gross  Tue, Nov 3, 2009 5:00:54pm

So far people only think they've seen change. Wait until they start internalizing their computers...

[Link: www.popsci.com...]

87 MandyManners  Tue, Nov 3, 2009 5:01:25pm

re: #83 Naso Tang

A question about vaccination and swine flue in particular, please. This for a conversation where a family member needs education that is not from a family member; me.

I could google this and I know the answers, but does anyone have a good authoritative link, scientific, that best summarizes the reasons for getting vaccinated for Swine flu, particularly for the young?

[Link: www.cdc.gov...]

88 Capitalist Tool  Tue, Nov 3, 2009 5:02:50pm

re: #75 Irenicum

Some serious acid going on there. That was some great music though.


Oh, did you mean there or did you mean there or were you meaning the there that's already here?

89 Dancing along the light of day  Tue, Nov 3, 2009 5:03:03pm

re: #86 Thanos

So far people only think they've seen change. Wait until they start internalizing their computers...

[Link: www.popsci.com...]

Very cool! I was suprised at how big a pacemaker actually is!

90 webevintage  Tue, Nov 3, 2009 5:04:36pm

re: #82 ArchangelMichael

Caprica is supposed to air its first post-pilot episode Jan 22, 2010.

Thanks.
I know "google is your friend". I would wonder when it was coming on and then find something more interesting to google.
"The Plan" is at the top of Netflix, but it has the red VERY LONG WAIT next to it.

91 Sharmuta  Tue, Nov 3, 2009 5:05:46pm

More John Mayer:

92 freetoken  Tue, Nov 3, 2009 5:07:33pm

Well... who won?

93 HelloDare  Tue, Nov 3, 2009 5:08:19pm

BREAKING NEWS: NBC calls Virginia governor's race for GOP's McDonnell

94 brookly red  Tue, Nov 3, 2009 5:09:03pm

re: #93 HelloDare

BREAKING NEWS: NBC calls Virginia governor's race for GOP's McDonnell

CNN too...

95 TheMatrix31  Tue, Nov 3, 2009 5:09:46pm

Fuck yeah!

96 HelloDare  Tue, Nov 3, 2009 5:10:00pm

re: #94 brookly red

CNN too...

Healthcare bill go bye-bye.

97 MandyManners  Tue, Nov 3, 2009 5:10:17pm

re: #92 freetoken

Well... who won?

The guy with the most votes.

98 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Tue, Nov 3, 2009 5:10:34pm

Saw some election "shenanigans" today. Studied a bit, went and voted...

Got to the polls, there was a "sample" Republican ballot sitting on the registration table.

Maybe someone just left it there...

99 freetoken  Tue, Nov 3, 2009 5:11:11pm

re: #97 MandyManners

The guy with the most votes.

Tell that to Al Gore...

/ducks

100 brookly red  Tue, Nov 3, 2009 5:11:28pm

re: #96 HelloDare

Healthcare bill go bye-bye.

I won't believe that till I see the body.

101 brookly red  Tue, Nov 3, 2009 5:14:41pm

re: #97 MandyManners

The guy with the most votes.

at least the margin is big enough that it's not the guy with the best lawyers this time.

102 Shiplord Kirel  Tue, Nov 3, 2009 5:15:28pm

Yikes! I'm starting to wonder if the George Hutchins website isn't some kind of hoax. The guy not only has a batshit site design, he actually is batshit and only half literate besides:

"All major civilizations, since the beginning of recorded time, have fallen into DECLINE, and DECAY, once the majority citizens of each society, had ACCEPTED GAY MALE HOMOSEXUAL BEHAVIOR, to be normal standards of conduct, in open public places."


He goes on to blame this gay male homosexual behavior (I guess he's ok with lesbians) for the decline and fall of Greece, Rome, the British Empire, Weimar Germany, and California. Oddly, he goes on to include a pic of himself posing in a public bathhouse, the Roman baths at the aptly named Bath, England to be exact.

He also states that "Open Persecution of GAY MALE HOMOSEXUALS is NOT Recommended..."
Not recommended? Is it only a suggestion? Are would-be persecutors still free to go against this recommendation?

103 Capitalist Tool  Tue, Nov 3, 2009 5:15:50pm

a Hawkwind Master of the Universe cover

104 Capitalist Tool  Tue, Nov 3, 2009 5:19:34pm

re: #102 Shiplord Kirel

Yikes! I'm starting to wonder if the George Hutchins website isn't some kind of hoax. The guy not only has a batshit site design, he actually is batshit and only half literate besides:


He goes on to blame this gay male homosexual behavior (I guess he's ok with lesbians) for the decline and fall of Greece, Rome, the British Empire, Weimar Germany, and California. Oddly, he goes on to include a pic of himself posing in a public bathhouse, the Roman baths at the aptly named Bath, England to be exact.

He also states that "Open Persecution of GAY MALE HOMOSEXUALS is NOT Recommended..."
Not recommended? Is it only a suggestion? Are would-be persecutors still free to go against this recommendation?

That guy is so far gone and clueless- He's really the Slim Whitman of politics.

105 jhrhv  Tue, Nov 3, 2009 5:20:03pm

I thought Skeletor was the Master Of The Universe?

106 Capitalist Tool  Tue, Nov 3, 2009 5:20:33pm

re: #105 jhrhv

I thought Skeletor was the Master Of The Universe?


You are.

107 HelloDare  Tue, Nov 3, 2009 5:20:45pm

re: #102 Shiplord Kirel

That website is scary. Looks like it was art directed by a psychotic clown. And then there are the actual words.

108 freetoken  Tue, Nov 3, 2009 5:21:18pm

re: #102 Shiplord Kirel

Seems to be a real person of that nature:

George Hutchins

Member of the "Constitution Party", if that helps.

109 brookly red  Tue, Nov 3, 2009 5:21:46pm

re: #102 Shiplord Kirel

He also states that "Open Persecution of GAY MALE HOMOSEXUALS is NOT Recommended..."
Not recommended? Is it only a suggestion? Are would-be persecutors still free to go against this recommendation?

/ sounds like he want the persecutors to say in the closet

110 HelloDare  Tue, Nov 3, 2009 5:21:52pm

re: #104 Capitalist Tool

That guy is so far gone and clueless- He's really the Slim Whitman of politics.

No. Slim Whitman's jacket is only one color.

111 ~Fianna  Tue, Nov 3, 2009 5:21:52pm

re: #102 Shiplord Kirel

Yikes! I'm starting to wonder if the George Hutchins website isn't some kind of hoax. The guy not only has a batshit site design, he actually is batshit and only half literate besides:


He goes on to blame this gay male homosexual behavior (I guess he's ok with lesbians) for the decline and fall of Greece, Rome, the British Empire, Weimar Germany, and California. Oddly, he goes on to include a pic of himself posing in a public bathhouse, the Roman baths at the aptly named Bath, England to be exact.

He also states that "Open Persecution of GAY MALE HOMOSEXUALS is NOT Recommended..."
Not recommended? Is it only a suggestion? Are would-be persecutors still free to go against this recommendation?

Have you seen the Sanford and Son and Al Joelson minstrel makeup parts yet?

Wow. Just wow.

112 Achilles Tang  Tue, Nov 3, 2009 5:22:04pm

re: #104 Capitalist Tool

I clicked on that and couldn't find my sunglasses fast enough. Have I missed something, or are you giving airwaves to a nobody?

113 jhrhv  Tue, Nov 3, 2009 5:22:14pm

re: #106 Capitalist Tool

Please tell my wife. I've tried. She doesn't believe me for some reason.

114 Shiplord Kirel  Tue, Nov 3, 2009 5:22:57pm

re: #108 freetoken

Seems to be a real person of that nature:

George Hutchins

Member of the "Constitution Party", if that helps.

Yes, that explains it.

115 Achilles Tang  Tue, Nov 3, 2009 5:23:44pm

re: #113 jhrhv

Please tell my wife. I've tried. She doesn't believe me for some reason.

No bones in you know what could be the reason...

116 reine.de.tout  Tue, Nov 3, 2009 5:23:49pm

re: #113 jhrhv

Please tell my wife. I've tried. She doesn't believe me for some reason.

It's because you're going about it the wrong way.
Tell your wife she is the mistress of the universe.
And treat her as such.
And then she will believe you.

117 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Nov 3, 2009 5:24:11pm

I went to a vigil at Richmond High this afternoon for about half an hour.

On a more cheerful note, I have learned that one of the gym-class volleyball teams has named itself "We The People"

118 jhrhv  Tue, Nov 3, 2009 5:24:47pm

re: #116 reine.de.tout

That's a good idea. I think the reason she doesn't think I am is because she thinks she is.

119 Capitalist Tool  Tue, Nov 3, 2009 5:25:32pm

re: #110 HelloDare

re: #112 Naso Tang

more Slim
Sorry, Naso T... links work for me.

120 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Nov 3, 2009 5:25:35pm

re: #14 SixDegrees

In the good news column: Bardwell Resigns.

The Louisiana JoP who refused to marry interracial couples called it quits today. Took a bit longer than I had expected - and hoped - but good riddance.

Now he'll have more time to make his bathroom available to people of all races.

121 webevintage  Tue, Nov 3, 2009 5:25:37pm

Looks like VA has gone all the way for the GOP...

122 avanti  Tue, Nov 3, 2009 5:25:40pm

re: #96 HelloDare

Healthcare bill go bye-bye.

You are dreaming.

123 brookly red  Tue, Nov 3, 2009 5:26:08pm

re: #116 reine.de.tout

might be better to use the term queen than mistress, if ya know what I mean...

124 TheMatrix31  Tue, Nov 3, 2009 5:26:44pm

re: #122 avanti

If he IS dreaming, at least its not this nightmare we live in every day.

125 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Nov 3, 2009 5:27:02pm

re: #22 Mich-again

What will the Right Wing Purity Council make of this. Pagan Rites for Queens GOP Council Candidate

I don't know, but is there any particular reason why this man's religion should make him a bad candidate?

126 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Nov 3, 2009 5:27:52pm

re: #26 Irenicum

When I first looked at the cover I wasn't sure if the dog was flying or humping. Thanks for the clarification!

It looks happy, regardless. Happy-looking dogs always cheer me up.

127 freetoken  Tue, Nov 3, 2009 5:28:17pm

Hey, Mr. George Hutchins is a fan of Rush Limbaugh:

[Link: 74.125.95.132...]

Who would have guessed that one?

128 Achilles Tang  Tue, Nov 3, 2009 5:29:23pm

re: #119 Capitalist Tool

re: #112 Naso Tang

more Slim
Sorry, Naso T... links work for me.

I was commenting on the Hutchins link, which I won't repeat.

129 Capitalist Tool  Tue, Nov 3, 2009 5:30:11pm

re: #123 brookly red

might be better to use the term queen than mistress, if ya know what I mean...

the Queen said: if I had to, I'd be King.
the King laughed, because he had to.


two too

130 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Nov 3, 2009 5:30:58pm

re: #61 wozzablog

do any of you want to destroy my sweater?...

Does it have snowflakes, Santa, a reindeer, or bells with ribbons on it? If so, probably.

131 Mad Al-Jaffee  Tue, Nov 3, 2009 5:31:18pm

Christopher Walken covers a pop song:

132 Shiplord Kirel  Tue, Nov 3, 2009 5:31:30pm

re: #111 ~Fianna

Have you seen the Sanford and Son and Al Joelson minstrel makeup parts yet?

Wow. Just wow.

Just saw it. He calls the NC Republican chairman a "cowardly rabbit" for taking exception to his comparison of Obama and his associates (real and alleged) to characters on Sanford and Son, so there is some hope for NC after all. It's unfortunate that this doofus was ever assocatied with Elizabeth Dole btw.

133 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Nov 3, 2009 5:32:58pm

re: #68 webevintage

hahahahaha
We were watching the old show earlier and I had forgotten about the hamsters.

All I hope is that V is good.
The new shows this season have sucked and with LOST not on until next year and Battlestar gone (and Caprica? where is Caprica?) I've got my fingers crossed that I'll get a scifi fix from it.

My cousin and I watched it secretly--well, maybe not as secretly as we thought. We were in a camper trailer, and our grandparents were theoretically unaware that we were watching TV in the next room of the trailer. Our grandparents weren't deaf.

134 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Nov 3, 2009 5:33:38pm

re: #71 Irenicum

Yeah, the new Prisoner is coming out very soon too. And it stars Jesus! OK, it's Jim Caviezel. I own the old show and still love it. I hope the new one isn't too bad.

Isn't he the one who was struck by lightning twice while playing Jesus?

135 Mr. Crankypants  Tue, Nov 3, 2009 5:34:09pm

re: #110 HelloDare

But can he make Martian's heads explode?

136 austin_blue  Tue, Nov 3, 2009 5:34:15pm

re: #96 HelloDare

Healthcare bill go bye-bye.

Great! It's a healthcare lobbyists dream!

[Link: www.infoplease.com...]

Yep, let's not change *anything*!

137 reine.de.tout  Tue, Nov 3, 2009 5:35:35pm

re: #123 brookly red

might be better to use the term queen than mistress, if ya know what I mean...

Well. . . .as you can see, it's the term I use!

138 Capitalist Tool  Tue, Nov 3, 2009 5:35:53pm

re: #134 SanFranciscoZionist

Isn't he the one who was struck by lightning twice while playing Jesus?

The SAME 1.

139 brookly red  Tue, Nov 3, 2009 5:36:41pm

re: #137 reine.de.tout

Well. . . .as you can see, it's the term I use!

touche

140 avanti  Tue, Nov 3, 2009 5:36:50pm

re: #124 TheMatrix31

If he IS dreaming, at least its not this nightmare we live in every day.

Even if the Dems lose all the local elections, it changes little in the balance in power. The Virgina race was lost weeks ago, NY 23 was a Republican seat, NJ has a crappy Dem Governor. The scary thing might be if the conservatives sweep them all, the loony right well take it as a sign they are on the correct path nationally.

141 reine.de.tout  Tue, Nov 3, 2009 5:37:05pm

re: #111 ~Fianna

Have you seen the Sanford and Son and Al Joelson minstrel makeup parts yet?

Wow. Just wow.

FIANNA -
Have you finished the proofing yet?

142 Killgore Trout  Tue, Nov 3, 2009 5:37:45pm

re: #136 austin_blue

I think they'll pass something. Healthcare reform is far from dead.

143 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Nov 3, 2009 5:37:45pm

re: #102 Shiplord Kirel

Yikes! I'm starting to wonder if the George Hutchins website isn't some kind of hoax. The guy not only has a batshit site design, he actually is batshit and only half literate besides:


He goes on to blame this gay male homosexual behavior (I guess he's ok with lesbians) for the decline and fall of Greece, Rome, the British Empire, Weimar Germany, and California. Oddly, he goes on to include a pic of himself posing in a public bathhouse, the Roman baths at the aptly named Bath, England to be exact.

He also states that "Open Persecution of GAY MALE HOMOSEXUALS is NOT Recommended..."
Not recommended? Is it only a suggestion? Are would-be persecutors still free to go against this recommendation?

God have mercy.

Um, how does he feel about straight male homosexuals? Just a question...

144 brookly red  Tue, Nov 3, 2009 5:38:08pm

re: #134 SanFranciscoZionist

Isn't he the one who was struck by lightning twice while playing Jesus?

But lighting never strikes twic... oooh, never mind.

145 Capitalist Tool  Tue, Nov 3, 2009 5:39:10pm

re: #132 Shiplord Kirel

Just saw it. He calls the NC Republican chairman a "cowardly rabbit" for taking exception to his comparison of Obama and his associates (real and alleged) to characters on Sanford and Son, so there is some hope for NC after all. It's unfortunate that this doofus was ever assocatied with Elizabeth Dole btw.


Knew a guy like this fool in the Army; not only a full- time @$$, but exceedingly dim.

146 Sharmuta  Tue, Nov 3, 2009 5:40:29pm

Thanos-

Club For Growth Spent $1 Million in NY-23. Is This a Bad Omen for the GOP in 2010?

The Atlantic’s Chris Good has an interesting breakdown on who spent what on New York’s hotly-contested 23rd congressional district race. The big news: The Club for Growth spent more than $1 million in support of Conservative Party candidate Doug Hoffman. That’s slightly less than the $1.1 million the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee chipped in behalf of Democrat Bill Owens. Meanwhile, the National Republican Congressional Committee spent roughly $897,000—most of that money spent on ads directly challenging Owens, as opposed to building up Dede Scozzafava, a moderate Republican who dropped out of the race over the weekend.

147 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Nov 3, 2009 5:40:29pm

re: #138 Capitalist Tool

The SAME 1.

You'd think that might be taken as a sign. I mean, I'm not much for omens, but getting struck by lightning MORE THAN ONCE while engaged in such a project must mean something.

148 TheMatrix31  Tue, Nov 3, 2009 5:40:49pm

re: #140 avanti

I'm sorry, I'll take anything if it means that things like healthcare, Cap N' Trade, etc are drowned and put to sleep.

149 reine.de.tout  Tue, Nov 3, 2009 5:41:21pm

More interesting stuff from Jake Tapper:

more exit poll: in VA voters "very" worried about economy went for McDonnell 73-26 percent. In NJ, they went for Christie 59-36 percent.

in VA McDonnell won independents 62-37%. in NJ, Christie won them 58-33%. but indies in VA a much bigger factor.

In both states, sharp drop-off of voters under 30 from 2008. Bad news for Ds.

here's why NJ was competitive: 53% had unfavorable view of Corzine; 49% had unfavorable view of Christie.

150 Dancing along the light of day  Tue, Nov 3, 2009 5:41:24pm

re: #147 SanFranciscoZionist

You need to move away from that big tree?
/

151 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Nov 3, 2009 5:41:29pm

re: #102 Shiplord Kirel

I saw the "recommended" thing on that site, and I laughed myself silly. It's like his entire site was translated from English to Japanese and back again through Babelfish. I'm emailing it to all my friends as we speak.

(Is anyone here on Boardgamegeek? Site reminds me of GROGnads posts)

152 austin_blue  Tue, Nov 3, 2009 5:42:41pm

re: #142 Killgore Trout

I think they'll pass something. Healthcare reform is far from dead.

Agreed. The status quo is unsustainable.

153 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Nov 3, 2009 5:42:57pm

re: #148 TheMatrix31

I'm sorry, I'll take anything if it means that things like healthcare, Cap N' Trade, etc are drowned and put to sleep.

But you're still okay with public health care for the military like Tricare, right? ;-)

154 brookly red  Tue, Nov 3, 2009 5:43:35pm

re: #150 Floral Giraffe

You need to move away from that big tree?
/

but I really really want that apple..

155 TheMatrix31  Tue, Nov 3, 2009 5:44:23pm

re: #153 WindUpBird

I've heard some horror stories about that program.

156 Capitalist Tool  Tue, Nov 3, 2009 5:44:56pm

re: #147 SanFranciscoZionist

You'd think that might be taken as a sign. I mean, I'm not much for omens, but getting struck by lightning MORE THAN ONCE while engaged in such a project must mean something.


You just know Caviezel was twisting knobs over it, trying to tune in on WTH is goin' on?

157 SanFranciscoZionist  Tue, Nov 3, 2009 5:46:15pm

re: #150 Floral Giraffe

You need to move away from that big tree?
/

"Let's put it this way, if trouble were lightning, he'd be standing on top of a mountain in a thunderstorm, wearing copper armor, and waving a staff and shouting "All gods are bastards."

158 wee fury  Tue, Nov 3, 2009 5:46:47pm

re: #154 brookly red

but I really really want that apple..

You can buy one at the Apple Store.

159 MittDoesNotCompute  Tue, Nov 3, 2009 5:47:49pm

re: #120 SanFranciscoZionist

Now he'll have more time to make his bathroom available to people of all races.

I hope a visitor drops a big log in the bowl at the ex-JOP's house...you know, the kind that take several flushes, a plunger, a plumber's snake, Drano, and some dynamite to get rid of.

///

160 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Nov 3, 2009 5:48:13pm

re: #142 Killgore Trout

I think they'll pass something. Healthcare reform is far from dead.

Yep. Sorry, Republicans. It's not going away. Something will pass. We can argue on what, and how, and who it covers, and what it covers, and whether Reid is a douchebag (yes) but some form of reform will pass. And it won't be Marxism, it won't have death panels or murder councils or vivisection politburos. It might be efficient, it might be inefficient, but it'll be at least the beginning of a solution to the titanic ball of utter bullshit that is health care in America now.

And Michelle Bachmann will weep and rend her garments and her makeup will run and Keyboard Cat will play her off and the world will keep spinning 'round the sun.

161 brookly red  Tue, Nov 3, 2009 5:48:24pm

re: #158 wee fury

You can buy one at the Apple Store.

no shit, this vista crap is making me crazy.

162 brookly red  Tue, Nov 3, 2009 5:50:28pm

re: #159 talon_262

I hope a visitor drops a big log in the bowl at the ex-JOP's house...you know, the kind that take several flushes, a plunger, a plumber's snake, Drano, and some dynamite to get rid of.

///

more fiber dude...

163 Capitalist Tool  Tue, Nov 3, 2009 5:50:30pm

re: #161 brookly red

no shit, this vista crap is making me crazy.

Then you might want to consider Windows 7.
No wait... you might want to wait for Service Pack 1, at least- or better yet, SP3.
But it might be New Vista 3 by then...

164 Racer X  Tue, Nov 3, 2009 5:50:37pm

Health care change is coming, no doubt about it. Thats the good news.

Keeping the government as far away from it as possible will be the challenge.

165 Dancing along the light of day  Tue, Nov 3, 2009 5:50:39pm

re: #157 SanFranciscoZionist

"Let's put it this way, if trouble were lightning, he'd be standing on top of a mountain in a thunderstorm, wearing copper armor, and waving a staff and shouting "All gods are bastards."

Holding a golf umbrella!
LOL!

166 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, Nov 3, 2009 5:51:19pm

Tonight on NOVA: Becoming Human Pt. 1

Part 1 of 3. The evolutionary arc of humans is explored, beginning with what may have led to the split from the apes. The documentary details the discovery of Selam, a nearly complete child fossil.

167 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Nov 3, 2009 5:51:20pm

re: #155 TheMatrix31

I've heard some horror stories about that program.

Yeah? I've heard some great things about it.

...from my buddies who are actually in the military. Yes, despite my appearance, I know guys who serve. My friends who grew up as the children of military parents who brag about their awesome military dental care. You can give me your horror stories, and I will respond in kind about private insurance considering being raped a "pre-existing condition."

168 brookly red  Tue, Nov 3, 2009 5:51:38pm

re: #163 Capitalist Tool

Then you might want to consider Windows 7.
No wait... you might want to wait for Service Pack 1, at least- or better yet, SP3.
But it might be New Vista 3 by then...


never again.

169 Jetpilot1101  Tue, Nov 3, 2009 5:52:14pm

OT: It appears that the Virginia races are total routes. The democrats are getting soundly defeated. I don't think these elections say anything about what will happen in 2010 but it is interesting that a state that went for Mr. Obama in 2008 has soundly rejected the democrat candidate one year later.

170 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Nov 3, 2009 5:52:48pm

re: #168 brookly red

never again.

Obviously you are not a core computer gamer. 8-) Windows! The necessary evil.

171 Dark_Falcon  Tue, Nov 3, 2009 5:53:13pm

re: #164 Racer X

Health care change is coming, no doubt about it. Thats the good news.

Keeping the government as far away from it as possible will be the challenge.

Quite Concur.

172 Velvet Elvis  Tue, Nov 3, 2009 5:54:23pm

re: #149 reine.de.tout


In both states, sharp drop-off of voters under 30 from 2008. Bad news for Ds.
.

Deeds ran by criticizing Obama. What did they expect?

173 Aye Pod  Tue, Nov 3, 2009 5:54:54pm

John Mayer - Your Body Is A Wonderland

174 Velvet Elvis  Tue, Nov 3, 2009 5:55:14pm

Things are looking good for the gay marriage referendum out of Maine.

175 TheMatrix31  Tue, Nov 3, 2009 5:55:31pm

re: #164 Racer X

Health care change is coming, no doubt about it. Thats the good news.

Keeping the government as far away from it as possible will be the challenge.

And THAT...will never happen.

176 austin_blue  Tue, Nov 3, 2009 5:58:11pm

re: #164 Racer X

Health care change is coming, no doubt about it. Thats the good news.

Keeping the government as far away from it as possible will be the challenge.

Because Medicare has been such a Major Fail.

177 Racer X  Tue, Nov 3, 2009 6:01:26pm

re: #176 austin_blue

Because Medicare has been such a Major Fail.

Yep.

Which is why I wonder why so many Americans are in such a rush to let the government get more involved in health care. I want them to back the fuck away a bit.

178 Slumbering Behemoth Stinks  Tue, Nov 3, 2009 6:02:08pm

re: #170 WindUpBird

Obviously you are not a core computer gamer. 8-) Windows! The necessary evil.

Sadly, you are correct sir. If I can't play Fallout on it, I don't want it.

179 austin_blue  Tue, Nov 3, 2009 6:02:42pm

re: #177 Racer X

Yep.

Which is why I wonder why so many Americans are in such a rush to let the government get more involved in health care. I want them to back the fuck away a bit.

Irony is lost on you.

180 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Nov 3, 2009 6:04:13pm

re: #164 Racer X

Health care change is coming, no doubt about it. Thats the good news.

Keeping the government as far away from it as possible will be the challenge.

Hey, if private industry could somehow make it work, I'd be fine with it. Right now, private industry is failing utterly. Monumental, breathtaking fail. Why IS it that health care providers are exempt from anti-trust? A curious thing, no?

"Health economist James Robinson found in 2003 that three large firms controlled more than 50% of enrollment in almost every state." (source: James Robinson and LA Times

I am not for Government Health Care. I am not hell-bent on single payer. I am for health care that is affordable for average humans, does not rape entrepreneurs and discourage entrepreneurship, does not ruin people's lives, bankrupt them, and cut them off because their babies are too fat.

I just want it to work. I am not an ideologue. Maybe you are. I don't care if private industry makes it work, if the government makes it work, if space aliens land in a flying freaking saucer and give everyone coverage.

Sometimes I think private industry is the solution, sometimes I think government is the solution. I guess that makes me EXTTREMIST LIBURALRLLHGBL!!!

181 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Tue, Nov 3, 2009 6:06:58pm

re: #177 Racer X

Yep.

Which is why I wonder why so many Americans are in such a rush to let the government get more involved in health care. I want them to back the fuck away a bit.

How much experience do you have with Medicare? I worked with people who recieved medicare as part of my gig in mental health. For years and years and years. I dealt with medicare all the time. And it was magnificent. It's the reason I'm so pro-reform. I have actually experienced how smooth and efficient Medicare works.

Ideology is not the answer to this problem.

182 Dona Quixote  Tue, Nov 3, 2009 6:08:07pm

What is wrong with the public option, ie allowing people who can't find private insurance to buy into a Medicare like program? I know so many people who would love to find any kind of coverage at all. And I knew people who died because they didn't have health care. If I know of people like that, doesn't everyone? What is the solution? Just let people who can't find coverage die? Can we live with that any longer? I'm finding it hard as it hits closer and closer to home. I'm not kidding. I would really like to know what the alternatives are.

183 The Sanity Inspector  Tue, Nov 3, 2009 6:14:10pm

re: #73 jhrhv

I've always liked this album cover. This one is from back in the days when they were actually albums.

King Crimson 21st Century Schizoid Man

Yes indeed...There's something about a gatefold album cover that a cd booklet can never replace.

184 austin_blue  Tue, Nov 3, 2009 6:15:13pm

re: #181 WindUpBird

How much experience do you have with Medicare? I worked with people who recieved medicare as part of my gig in mental health. For years and years and years. I dealt with medicare all the time. And it was magnificent. It's the reason I'm so pro-reform. I have actually experienced how smooth and efficient Medicare works.

Ideology is not the answer to this problem.

Here is what Medicare did for the elderly:

"The poverty rate among the elderly, for example, declined dramatically from 35.2 percent in 1959 to 10.1 percent in 2005 and is now lower than for any other age group."

Link: [Link: www.econlib.org...]

185 William Barnett-Lewis  Tue, Nov 3, 2009 6:21:08pm

re: #151 WindUpBird


(Is anyone here on Boardgamegeek? Site reminds me of GROGnads posts)

Yikes! I knew there was a reason to avoid the site...

William

186 Mr. Crankypants  Tue, Nov 3, 2009 6:22:07pm

re: #184 austin_blue

/but see that means that the cost of care goes up because not enough of them are dying off from lack of it. That's why we'll need death panels or Jack Kavorkian will take over as Surgeon General!

187 webevintage  Tue, Nov 3, 2009 6:24:04pm

My parents luuuvvv Medicare...I can only hope to live so long.

188 Achilles Tang  Tue, Nov 3, 2009 6:27:06pm

re: #177 Racer X

Yep.

Which is why I wonder why so many Americans are in such a rush to let the government get more involved in health care. I want them to back the fuck away a bit.

There are people who brag how their employer provided health care, without requiring qualification tests, cover everything; people like those in congress for example.

Then there are those who have an understanding with their doctor that nothing falling under the deductible is ever documented or submitted so that the for profit won't have a case to double the yearly increase that will come anyway.

Why don't you back the fuck off a bit when you have nothing of value to add?

189 wii42  Tue, Nov 3, 2009 6:35:02pm

Loved the video, wonder how the song would stand on its own, audio only.

190 Mr. Crankypants  Tue, Nov 3, 2009 6:38:15pm

re: #189 wii42

Yeah..I wonder that about a lot of artists these days...would Brittany Spears even have a career if she had to depend on the radio only for exposure?

I miss the days when you could be one homely SOB and still end up with a great career just because you were talented and could either play or sing or both.

191 Achilles Tang  Tue, Nov 3, 2009 6:41:09pm

re: #184 austin_blue

I have contact with a lot of people who are people on Medicaid.

Guess what? In this country if you live from paycheck to paycheck, or don't even have a paycheck then medical costs are the least of your problems. The services are free and the only reason the medical statistics for the group are bad is because they don't take advantage of the services until late in the game.

And that is not Obama socialism. It has been that way for many years. Want to guess who pays for it (which is not to say I mean to let them die)?

192 The Left  Tue, Nov 3, 2009 6:53:37pm

re: #191 Naso Tang

I have contact with a lot of people who are people on Medicaid.

Guess what? In this country if you live from paycheck to paycheck, or don't even have a paycheck then medical costs are the least of your problems. The services are free and the only reason the medical statistics for the group are bad is because they don't take advantage of the services until late in the game.


That isn't true.

According to a peer-reviewed study published earlier this year in the American Journal of Medicine, nearly 62 percent of all U.S. bankruptcies in 2007 were due to health care costs — and 78 percent of people who were driven into bankruptcy by their medical bills had insurance.


A lot of middleclass people live paycheck to paycheck. And even if you don't a lot of people are one medical emergency away from bankruptcy.

193 Dona Quixote  Tue, Nov 3, 2009 6:53:44pm

I think that access to free care is limited by the area you live in. In my state there is almost no access for working adults with low incomes. Most just pay cash for their doctors visits, use emergency rooms and pray. A Lot.

194 Achilles Tang  Tue, Nov 3, 2009 6:58:54pm

re: #192 iceweasel

A lot of middleclass people live paycheck to paycheck. And even if you don't a lot of people are one medical emergency away from bankruptcy.

If you don't have any assets and work part time or are on assistance and typically don't have a credit card or even a bank account, then what meaning is bankruptcy? It is protection from what?

I don't think you realize how many Americans live like that. I didn't until a few years ago.

195 John Vreeland  Tue, Nov 3, 2009 7:03:21pm

re: #30 I was playing a bunch of their old stuff and it hit me: It's all navel-gazing music.

196 wii42  Tue, Nov 3, 2009 7:04:55pm

re: #190 PT Barnum

...depend on the radio only ...

w00t - one of those flashbacks they warned us about.   Somebody cue the Buggles.


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