Poll: Large Majority Approve of Obama’s SOTU Proposals

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Interesting numbers for the President’s first SOTU speech, from a CBS News-Knowledge Networks poll: Poll: 83% of Speech Watchers Approve of Obama’s State of the Union Proposals.

A large majority of Americans who watched President Obama’s State of the Union Address generally approve of the proposals he outlined in his speech, according to a CBS News Poll conducted online by Knowledge Networks immediately after the President’s address.

Of the randomly selected 522 speech viewers questioned by CBS, 83 percent said they approved of the proposals the President made. Just 17 percent disapproved — typical of the high support a president generally receives among those who choose to watch the State of the Union. In January 2002 — when George W. Bush gave the State of the Union Address a year into his presidency — 85% of speech watchers approved.

Six in 10 of those asked said they thought Mr. Obama conveyed a clear plan for creating jobs, and seven in 10 said his plans for the economy will help ordinary Americans. Another seven in 10 said President Obama has the same priorities for the country as they have.

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1 lawhawk  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 11:28:35am

That's a whole lot of people who will find themselves disappointed when those plans don't happen.

2 generalsparky  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 11:28:58am

And 42% think he can actually accomplish the proposals. So he has great ideas but his follow through kinda sucks.

3 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 11:29:19am

They didn't ask me. But honestly? I don't know what he proposed. Were there concrete tangible proposals? Or were they more "pie in the sky" theoretical esoteric ideas.

4 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 11:29:48am

re: #2 generalsparky

And 42% think he can actually accomplish the proposals. So he has great ideas but his follow through kinda sucks.

So, his "bench" sucks.

5 generalsparky  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 11:30:19am

re: #4 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

So, his "bench" sucks.

"snort"

6 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 11:30:45am

re: #1 lawhawk

That's a whole lot of people who will find themselves disappointed when those plans don't happen.

The SOTU speech is aimed at mostly at people who don't really follow politics. The average American tunes in for 5-10 minutes and will like pretty much anything they hear.

7 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 11:30:50am

Nuclear!

8 Daniel Ballard  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 11:33:07am

Okay but can he make it happen?
Nuclear. Against his own party?
Jobless rate down at a rate of 2% or more per annum?
Sign a jobs bill
Sign a medical reform bill? With less than a supermajority.

9 Ben Hur  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 11:33:46am

Let the punditry (?) be absorbed.

10 The Sanity Inspector  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 11:34:15am

Of the randomly selected 522 speech viewers questioned by CBS, 83 percent said they approved of the proposals the President made. Just 17 percent disapproved — typical of the high support a president generally receives among those who choose to watch the State of the Union.

A self-selecting sample, then. Nice of CBS to point that out.

11 Soap_Man  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 11:34:21am

Reposting from previous thread, since everyone just ditched it:

Just in!! New Fox News poll on SOTU:

Approve: 8%
Disapprove: 114%
No opinion: 4%

///

12 jaunte  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 11:34:26am

It's an ambitious list.

-- Taking $30 billion of the money Wall Street banks have repaid to the government and devoting it to helping community banks make loans to small businesses, along with a package of tax incentives to fuel small-business growth and hiring.

-- Construction of "safe" nuclear plants and continued investment in biofuel and "clean coal" technologies. Also suggested that "tough decisions" must be made on opening areas to offshore energy exploration.

-- A $10,000 tax credit for four years of college, an increase in Pell Grants and a cap on student loan payments.

-- A freeze in federal discretionary spending for three years, beginning in 2011.

-- An initiative to increase U.S. exports.

-- Using an executive order to create a federal debt commission.

-- That Congress pass laws to regulate campaign activity after the Supreme Court struck down restrictions on corporate activity.
[Link: www.washingtonpost.com...]

13 krypto  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 11:34:33am

Never fear - there will soon be a FOX news poll showing that 125% disapprove of Obama's proposals.

14 Ben Hur  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 11:35:11am

re: #11 Soap_Man

re: #13 krypto

!

15 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 11:35:24am

Lefties are claiming: McDonnell Rebuttal Heavily Underwritten By Wall Street

I wouldn't be surprised if this were true. The Republicans have a problem when it comes to being the mouthpiece for the oil industry on global warming and Pharmaceutical companies on healthcare reform. Wall street writing Republican talking points doesn't seem to be much of a stretch..

16 Soap_Man  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 11:35:47am

re: #13 krypto

Never fear - there will soon be a FOX news poll showing that 125% disapprove of Obama's proposals.

Ha! Beat ya on that snappy little joke. :)

17 drcordell  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 11:35:48am

re: #10 The Sanity Inspector

Of the randomly selected 522 speech viewers questioned by CBS, 83 percent said they approved of the proposals the President made. Just 17 percent disapproved — typical of the high support a president generally receives among those who choose to watch the State of the Union.

A self-selecting sample, then. Nice of CBS to point that out.

Not really sure what the other option for polling is? How can you poll people about the SOTU who didn't actually watch the speech?

18 jaunte  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 11:39:33am

The federal debt commission will be a tough one...


Senate says 'no' to federal debt commission Obama endorsed
...The proposal the Senate rejected Tuesday would have created an 18-member commission that comprised 10 Democrats and eight Republicans. It would have proposed funding changes for the politically sensitive programs that Congress and the White House traditionally are reluctant to change — notably cuts to Social Security and Medicare — and higher taxes.

If 14 of the 18 panel members agreed on a plan in a vote after the Nov. 2 midterm elections, the plan would have been submitted to Congress, which then would have been required to vote on it by Dec. 23. A three-fifths majority of each house of Congress would have been needed for passage.

Congressional leaders were skittish about approving an independent commission: They didn't want the legislature's power diluted, and they didn't want to be forced into making difficult choices about cutting popular retirement and health care programs or raising taxes.
[Link: www.mcclatchydc.com...]

19 vxbush  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 11:39:55am

As I admitted in the previous thread, I didn't watch the SOTU. I'm going to try and read it tonight, but one impression I've received from the press is that Obama didn't give specific directives for things he wanted to do this year. He gave general ideas, but no specific things. Is that impression accurate?

20 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 11:41:25am

re: #15 Killgore Trout

Lefties are claiming: McDonnell Rebuttal Heavily Underwritten By Wall Street

I wouldn't be surprised if this were true. The Republicans have a problem when it comes to being the mouthpiece for the oil industry on global warming and Pharmaceutical companies on healthcare reform. Wall street writing Republican talking points doesn't seem to be much of a stretch..

But the unions...

/I thought McDonnell's rebuttal was very well staged and delivered.

21 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 11:41:36am

re: #19 vxbush

I started out watching it, but turned to "20,000 Leagues Under the Sea".

I don't know either.

22 Soap_Man  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 11:41:59am

re: #17 drcordell

Not really sure what the other option for polling is? How can you poll people about the SOTU who didn't actually watch the speech?

Pollster: Hello, do you have an opinion on the State of the Union?
Voter: Yes. It sucked. I strongly disapprove.
Pollster: Okay, first I will ask if you watched the whole speech.
Voter: I didn't watch any of it.
Pollster: Than how do you have an opinion?
Voter: I don't need to watch it. He's an idiot.

23 SixDegrees  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 11:42:31am

re: #1 lawhawk

That's a whole lot of people who will find themselves disappointed when those plans don't happen.

"I never said change was going to be easy."

Of course, he never said hope was going to be hollow or turn into despair, either. Yet that seems to be the consensus among a large group of progressives interviewed on NPR this afternoon.

What we're seeing is the danger of running as a blank slate. When all those aspirations people scribble all over you don't come to pass, you're the one who takes the blame for their overreach.

24 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 11:42:51am

re: #22 Soap_Man

Pollster: Hello, do you have an opinion on the State of the Union?
Voter: Yes. It sucked. I strongly disapprove.
Pollster: Okay, first I will ask if you watched the whole speech.
Voter: I didn't watch any of it.
Pollster: Than how do you have an opinion?
Voter: I don't need to watch it. He's an idiot.

Yeh, I suspect that a lot of the polling reflects opinions about the president, not the speech. In any year.

25 Only The Lurker Knows  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 11:42:59am

re: #19 vxbush

IMHO, yes. He is doing the same thing he did with HCR. Throwing a bunch of ideas out and telling Congress to make it happen. In the event is does, he gets the credit. In the event it fails, he can point his finger at Congress and say (with a straight face) that they are the ones that failed, not him.

26 Ben Hur  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 11:43:11am

re: #20 SanFranciscoZionist

But the unions...

/I thought McDonnell's rebuttal was very well staged and delivered.

Superficially, I thought he looked like he was right out of Hollywood casting.

27 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 11:43:37am

re: #26 Ben Hur

He's my guy, and I agree with you.

28 SanFranciscoZionist  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 11:44:40am

re: #26 Ben Hur

Superficially, I thought he looked like he was right out of Hollywood casting.

He did, didn't he? I approved of the strong, confident tone. He didn't have the whiny, attacking note that these things often take on, the touch with his daughter was very effective...it was nicely put together.

29 researchok  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 11:46:24am

The numbers don't surprise me. He attracted conservatives when he promised nuclear power, coal technology, domestic off shore drilling and immigration enforcement.

He sounded reasonable and centrist. How reality plays out is another matter.

30 Ben Hur  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 11:46:29am

Like I said, give the pundits/MSM/Etc the time to do their thing.

When Hillary debated Lazio during her Senate run, the immediate polling showed that he won.

Then there editorials, etc, about how he was "abusive" to female Hillary, yada yada yada, and the later polls showed that SHE won the debate.

Then again, on style, O is the one.

31 Radicchio ad Absurdum  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 11:47:29am

re: #26 Ben Hur

I didn't watch the rebuttle, but you are probably not far off. I long time ago, I read a book called The Power Game which described how Congress entered the TV age as an institution and how it is used as a political tool, etc. It is out of date now as it was written about the time the internet was becoming popular (or even before), but it was a fascinating look at behind the scenes of the game.

32 vxbush  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 11:47:37am

re: #25 Bubblehead II

IMHO, yes. He is doing the same thing he did with HCR. Throwing a bunch of ideas out and telling Congress to make it happen. In the event is does, he gets the credit. In the event it fails, he can point his finger at Congress and say (with a straight face) that they are the ones that failed, not him.

And that seems to be a fundamentally different way to act with Congress, is it not? I seem to recall (perhaps selective memory) that previous presidents have always used the SOTU to present their bills and plans for the next year, using the SOTU as the launching ground for the initiatives for the next year--in essence giving Congress a heads-up for the year's focus.

Obama seems to be doing less directing of Congress. Which is reasonable, given the separation of powers, but it is a change from the past.

33 MrSilverDragon  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 11:47:45am

OK folks, time for me to head out into the field. Y'all have a great day, a wonderful night, and a pleasant tomorrow!

34 Gus  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 11:50:03am

CBS links to the poll data in a PDF:

CBS NEWS/KNOWLEDGE NETWORKS POLL

For release: January 27th, 2010
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

...
SPEECH VIEWERS AND PARTY AFFILIATION

Americans who watched the speech are more Democratic than the nation as a whole. That is not surprising; historically, a President’s supporters are more likely than his opponents to watch State of the Union addresses. 44% of speech viewers in this poll are Democrat and 21% are Republican. In the most recent CBS News poll of all Americans, conducted January 14-17, 2010, the breakdown is more even between the parties: 36% Democrat and 28% Republican.

SPEECH VIEWERS AND AMERICANS’ PARTY AFFILIATION

Democrat 44% - Viewers and 36% - All Americans
Republican 21 - Viewers and 28 - All Americans
Independent 35 - Viewers and 36 - All Americans

Knowledge Networks and Gallup have similar numbers with regards to party affiliation 36 (D), 28 (R), 36 (I) and 34 (D), 28 (R), 36 (I). However, as you can see the "Speech Viewers" was weighted towards Democrats (44% Democrats vs. 21% Republicans).

35 wrenchwench  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 11:51:11am

re: #15 Killgore Trout

Lefties are claiming: McDonnell Rebuttal Heavily Underwritten By Wall Street

I wouldn't be surprised if this were true. The Republicans have a problem when it comes to being the mouthpiece for the oil industry on global warming and Pharmaceutical companies on healthcare reform. Wall street writing Republican talking points doesn't seem to be much of a stretch..

I missed McDonnell's rebuttal. I was getting an in-person rebuttal from a Rush-listening analyst. :O

36 Girth  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 11:52:22am

re: #28 SanFranciscoZionist

He did, didn't he? I approved of the strong, confident tone. He didn't have the whiny, attacking note that these things often take on, the touch with his daughter was very effective...it was nicely put together.

I didn't like the breaks for applause with a totally sympathetic audience.

37 krypto  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 11:52:30am

re: #16 Soap_Man

Ha! Beat ya on that snappy little joke. :)

Check the times on the posts - you beat me by just 12 seconds. I should have typed faster.

38 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 11:52:46am

By the way... I'm sick as crap, now my gout is flaring up... made 2g's this morning.

Suck on it, illness!

39 DaddyG  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 11:52:49am

re: #19 vxbush

As I admitted in the previous thread, I didn't watch the SOTU. I'm going to try and read it tonight, but one impression I've received from the press is that Obama didn't give specific directives for things he wanted to do this year. He gave general ideas, but no specific things. Is that impression accurate?

Typically Presidential (and I mean that in the most Bi-Partisan way).

40 Buck  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 11:53:53am

Obama is Zelig. He is great at saying what you want to hear.

41 lawhawk  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 11:54:11am

re: #17 drcordell

Those who read the transcript online online or watched it?

It is different to read the speech than to hear or watch it given.

If you just read the speech, you would never have known about the Alito response to Obama's SCt comments. Different experience.

42 DaddyG  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 11:54:24am

re: #26 Ben Hur

Superficially, I thought he looked like he was right out of Hollywood casting.

We're going to put our pretty guy up against their pretty guy. Take that John Edwards!

43 Mocking Jay  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 11:54:47am

re: #35 wrenchwench

I missed McDonnell's rebuttal. I was getting an in-person rebuttal from a Rush-listening analyst. :O

Need a hug?

44 DaddyG  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 11:56:01am

re: #37 krypto

Check the times on the posts - you beat me by just 12 seconds. I should have typed faster.


Soap Man typed it first in the last thread. He's psycic!

45 Mocking Jay  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 11:56:06am

re: #38 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

By the way... I'm sick as crap, now my gout is flaring up... made 2g's this morning.

Suck on it, illness!

Wow. I'm sick. And am on the recovery end of a bad gout attack. I feel your pain, FBV.

46 wrenchwench  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 11:58:16am

re: #43 JasonA

Need a hug?

Thanks, it's OK. He only needed about the same amount of time as Mcdonnell used to vent.

I've learned some here at LGF about getting along with people who don't always agree.

47 DaddyG  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 11:58:21am

There is a Lech Walesa here who would like to talk to you about your anti-pole bias. /

48 DaddyG  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 11:59:02am

re: #46 wrenchwench

I've learned some here at LGF about getting along with people who don't always agree.

Just remember that I am always right and things will go swimmingly. /

49 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 12:00:31pm

re: #46 wrenchwench

Sometimes, it is as simple as posting a snarky reply and then deleting it. That's what I do, anyway.

50 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 12:00:33pm

Re: the blame it on Bush

Here's your tu quoque for the day

"To understand the State of the Union, we must look not only at where we are and where we’re going but where we’ve been. The situation at this time last year was truly ominous. [...] First, we must understand what’s happening at the moment to the economy. Our current problems are not the product of the recovery program that’s only just now getting under way, as some would have you believe; they are the inheritance of decades of tax and tax, and spend and spend. [...] The only alternative being offered to this economic program is a return to the policies that gave us a trillion-dollar debt, runaway inflation, runaway interest rates and unemployment," Ronald Reagan, in his first SOTU address.

[Link: andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com...]

51 The Sanity Inspector  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 12:00:46pm

re: #13 krypto

Never fear - there will soon be a FOX news poll showing that 125% disapprove of Obama's proposals.

I watched it on CNN. I didn't hang around for the wrap-up, but before I turned it off, the anchor immediately pronounced the speech "substantial".

52 wrenchwench  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 12:00:49pm

re: #48 DaddyG

Just remember that I am always right and things will go swimmingly. /

*smiles and nods*

53 Sheila Broflovski  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 12:00:54pm

How is he going to create all these awesome jobs?

Get congress to declare war, on Iran, on North Korea, on all the countries in the "Axis of Evil."

Go into wartime mode, not half assed like it is now, but a full out wartime mode like during WW2. Get Disney and Warner Bros. and "Family Guy" "The Simpsons" and of course "South Park" to make patriotic cartoons.

Then when we have whipped the enemy's ass, our boys come home to unprecedented prosperity.

Hey it worked in the '40's and '50's.

54 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 12:01:18pm

re: #45 JasonA

Wow. I'm sick. And am on the recovery end of a bad gout attack. I feel your pain, FBV.

Gout is teh suck!

55 Dancing along the light of day  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 12:01:44pm

re: #48 DaddyG

Just remember that I am always right and things will go swimmingly. /

Yes, dear.

56 SixDegrees  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 12:02:04pm

re: #24 SanFranciscoZionist

Yeh, I suspect that a lot of the polling reflects opinions about the president, not the speech. In any year.

There's that. And that there really weren't any actual proposals put forward, but rather a flurry of ideas, at least some of which ought to appeal to pretty much everyone. I'm all for the repeal of DADT and allowing openly gay people to serve in the military, for example, but I didn't hear how that's going to come about - only that it's going to be "worked toward." Same with the other thoughts that were floated. I doubt there's anyone who doesn't think reducing the deficit is a good idea, and finds it easy to agree that it ought to be done. But the rubber hasn't met the road on that notion, either, apart from a hollow "spending cap" that, at best, will shave about 1.5% off the already colossal annual deficit - if no one pulls an end run around it, as Congress assuredly will. Same with health care, although the description offered last night for health care - a competitive, privately run enterprise - seems nearly 180 degrees away from what Congress has been trying to pass for the last year. And sure, people need jobs, and the assurance of low unemployment rates. Who wouldn't? How is that going to happen? Well...the Supreme Court is an asshole!!! Look over there...!


I guess the word I'm looking for here is "platitudes." That's what I heard, with little in the way of actual proposals. It's no wonder those who bothered to answer were largely positive. It's like the answer you'd get if you asked if someone thought sex was OK or not, without bothering to mention that you're offering Madeleine Albright as a partner.

57 cliffster  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 12:02:38pm

re: #54 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Gout is teh suck!

Stay away from those hot dogs

58 The Sanity Inspector  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 12:02:40pm

re: #46 wrenchwench

Thanks, it's OK. He only needed about the same amount of time as Mcdonnell used to vent.

I've learned some here at LGF about getting along with people who don't always agree.

Encountering other people who are intelligent, informed, honest, and yet still disagree is a pleasure--once I accept that they actually exist.

59 wrenchwench  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 12:02:55pm

re: #49 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Sometimes, it is as simple as posting a snarky reply and then deleting it. That's what I do, anyway.

The meat world equivalent is tongue-biting. Can vegetarians do that?

60 Ben Hur  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 12:03:15pm

re: #46 wrenchwench

Thanks, it's OK. He only needed about the same amount of time as Mcdonnell used to vent.

I've learned some here at LGF about getting along with people who don't always agree.

DId you end it with, "Well, then sir, I DOWN DING you!"

61 Ben Hur  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 12:04:02pm

re: #38 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

By the way... I'm sick as crap, now my gout is flaring up... made 2g's this morning.

Suck on it, illness!

Stop eating those veggies, and start smoking them.

62 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 12:04:05pm

re: #57 cliffster

and sweetbreads. Gotta cut down on the sweetbreads.

I had a friend with gout problems once, who thought that they meant danishes and stuff.

Seriously. Until I explained it, he was clueless.

Didn't say I had a smart friend, did I?

63 theliel  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 12:04:13pm

re: #60 Ben Hur

DId you end it with, "Well, then sir, I DOWN DING you!"

You win.
I gotta remember that one.

64 John Neverbend  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 12:04:42pm

re: #38 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

By the way... I'm sick as crap, now my gout is flaring up... made 2g's this morning.

Suck on it, illness!

Sorry to hear that. Did you know that gout used to be known as "The Rich Man's disease" or even "The Disease of Kings"?

65 wrenchwench  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 12:05:01pm

re: #60 Ben Hur

DId you end it with, "Well, then sir, I DOWN DING you!"

I'm gonna save that for next time!

66 lawhawk  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 12:05:05pm

re: #60 Ben Hur


... you get nothing. You lose. Good day Sir! /Willy Wonka

67 Aceofwhat?  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 12:05:09pm

re: #50 Stanley Sea

Sorta tough on you that your best tu quoque example is one in which the orator was ultimately proven to be right about a couple of things, isn't it?

68 Mocking Jay  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 12:06:05pm

re: #54 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Gout is teh suck!

Ever try going to sleep during the worst part of it and have a little voice in your head point out that your life wouldn't be all that much worse if the foot was just gone? Yeah, it's the suck. But it's gotten me to change my diet for the better. Ah well.

69 Soap_Man  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 12:06:13pm

Nate Silver posted a word analysis. It's very informative. (And no, he didn't count how many times Obama used "I" or "me".)

70 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 12:06:14pm

re: #64 John Neverbend

Yep. Cause it was a rich diet (lot's of organ meats) that would make it flare up. I have no idea why mine is flaring up. Haven't even drank (drunk?) that much beer lately.

71 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 12:06:32pm

re: #67 Aceofwhat?

Sorta tough on you that your best tu quoque example is one in which the orator was ultimately proven to be right about a couple of things, isn't it?

And the current blame isn't partially correct?

72 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 12:07:43pm

Wingnuts upstage Chris Mathews for blatant racism.....
The Lesson of an Affirmative Action President (via Crazy Pam)

By James Lewis

Obama was elected to universal Hosannas because he is black. It wasn't a secret. That's why the Left around the world went into ecstasies when Obama ran and got elected.
...
Hillary Clinton was going to dictate racial and gender preferences for medical school admissions under HillaryCare. You can bet that reverse-racism is all over the 2,200 pages of ObamaCare. It's reverse-racism forever!
...
Today it's not just blacks -- it's women, homosexuals, and illegal aliens.
....
Nobody can point to Obama's anti-terrorist policies and say that's wildly incompetent -- without fearing they will be accused of racism.

From a temporary policy to give black people a better chance in life, we have now arrived at a Marxist goal of universal equality for everyone -- except for white, male, heterosexual, and excessively normal people (Blacks aren't "normal"?-ed).
....
American blacks today are more bitter and more racially enraged than ever before, after forty years of affirmative action. Affirmative action hasn't helped women, who now have to work two jobs, one at home and one for income, especially because so many men have walked away from their families under liberal cultural values.
....
.....Obama will be around for the next forty years blaming White America for his own folly.

It doesn't get much more blatant that this.

73 Mocking Jay  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 12:08:04pm

re: #69 Soap_Man

Nate Silver posted a word analysis. It's very informative. (And no, he didn't count how many times Obama used "I" or "me".)

How can one offer a proper analysis without a personal pronoun count???

74 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 12:08:05pm

re: #68 JasonA

Hmm, I didn't know that gout was a Lizard disease. I haven't had a flare-up in 2-3 years (knock on wood), but boy is it nasty when it does.

75 Mocking Jay  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 12:09:31pm

re: #74 oaktree

Hmm, I didn't know that gout was a Lizard disease. I haven't had a flare-up in 2-3 years (knock on wood), but boy is it nasty when it does.

Dinosaurs suffered from gout. Fact.

76 Ben Hur  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 12:09:47pm

re: #50 Stanley Sea

Re: the blame it on Bush

Here's your tu quoque for the day

[Link: andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com...]

I recommend that everyone read the whole thing:

[Link: www.nationalcenter.org...]

This time, however, things are different. We have an economic program in place completely different from the artificial quick-fixes of the past. It calls for a reduction of the rate of increase in Government spending, and already that rate has been cut n early in half. But reduced spending alone isn't enough. We've just implemented the first and smallest phase of a three-year tax-rate reduction designed to stimulate the economy and create jobs.

Already interest rates are down to 15 3/4 percent, but they must still go lower. Inflation is down from 12.4 percent to 8.9, and for the month of December it was running at an annualized rate of 5.2 percent.

If we had not acted as we did, things would be far worse for all Americans than they are today. Inflation inflation, taxes and interest rates would all be higher.

A year ago, Americans' faith in their governmental process was steadily declining. Six out of ten Americans were saying they were pessimistic about their future.

A new kind of defeatism was heard. Some said our domestic problems were uncontrollable that we had to learn to live with the-seemingly endless cycle of high inflation and high unemployment.

There were also pessimistic predictions about the relationship between our Administration and this Congress. It was said we could never work together. Well, those predictions were wrong. The record is clear, and I believe that history will remember this as an era of American renewal, remember this Administration as an Administration of change and remember this Congress as a Congress of destiny.

Together, we not only cut the increase in Government spending nearly in half, we brought about the largest tax reductions and the most sweeping changes in our tax structure since the beginning of this century. And because we indexed future taxes to the r ate of inflation, we took away Government's built-in profit on inflation and its hidden incentive to grow larger at the expense of American workers.

77 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 12:09:52pm

re: #75 JasonA

The herbivores, or the carnivores?

78 Ben Hur  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 12:10:19pm

Together, after 50 years of taking power away from the hands of the people in their states and local communities we have started returning power and resources to them.

Together, we have cut the growth of new Federal regulations nearly in half. In 1981, there were 23,000 fewer pages in the Federal Register, which lists new regulations, than there were in 1980. By deregulating oil, we've come closer to achieving energy i independence and help bring down the costs of gasoline and heating fuel.

Together, we have created an effective Federal strike force to combat waste and fraud in Government. In just six months it has saved the taxpayers more than $2 billion, and it's only getting started.

Together, we've begun to mobilize the private sector not to duplicate wasteful and discredited Government programs but to bring thousands of Americans into a volunteer effort to help solve many of America's social problems.

Together, we've begun to restore that margin of military safety that insures peace. Our country's uniform is being worn once again with pride.

79 Ben Hur  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 12:11:02pm

The only alternative being offered to this economic program is a return to the policies that gave us a trillion-dollar debt, runaway inflation, runaway interest rates and unemployment.

The doubters would have us turn back the clock with tax increases that would offset the personal tax-rate reductions already passed by this Congress.

Raise present taxes to cut future deficits, they tell us. Well, I don't believe we should buy that argument. There are too many imponderables for anyone to predict deficits or surpluses several years ahead with any degree of accuracy. The budget in place when I took office had been projected as balanced. It turned out to have one of the biggest deficits in history. Another example of the imponderables that can make deficit projections highly questionable: A change of only one percentage point in unemployment can alter a deficit up or down by some $25 billion.

As it now stands, our forecasts, which we're required by law to make, will show major deficits, starting at less than $100 billion and declining, but still too high.

More important, we are making progress with the three keys to reducing deficits: economic growth, lower interest rates and spending control. The policies we have in place will reduce the deficit steadily, surely and, in time, completely.

Higher taxes would not mean lower deficits. If they did, how would we explain tax revenues more than doubled just since 1976, yet in that same six-year period we ran the largest series of deficits in our history. In 1980 tax revenues increased by $54 bil lion, and in 1980 we had one of our all-time biggest deficits.

Raising taxes won't balance the budget. It will encourage more Government spending and less private investment. Raising taxes will slow economic growth, reduce production and destroy future jobs, making it more difficult for those without jobs to find th em and more likely that those who now have jobs could lose them.

So I will not ask you to try to balance the budget on the backs of the American taxpayers. I will seek no tax increases this year and I have no intention of retreating from our basic program of tax relief. I promised the American people to bring their taxes x rates down and keep them down to provide them incentives to rebuild our economy, to save, to invest in America's future. I will stand by my word. Tonight I'm urging the American people: Seize these new opportunities to produce, to save, to invest, and t together we'll make this economy a mighty engine of freedom, hope and prosperity again.

Now the budget deficit this year will exceed our earlier expectations. The recession did that. It lowered revenues and increased costs. To some extent, we're also victims of our own success. We've brought inflation down faster than we thought we could an d in doing this we've deprived Government of those hidden revenues that occur when inflation pushes people into higher income tax brackets. And the continued high interest rates last year cost the Government about $5 billion more than anticipated.

We must cut out more nonessential Government spending and root out more waste, and we will continue our efforts to reduce the number of employees in the Federal work force by 75,000.

80 Ben Hur  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 12:11:21pm

yada yada yada...

81 webevintage  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 12:11:22pm

re: #2 generalsparky

And 42% think he can actually accomplish the proposals. So he has great ideas but his follow through kinda sucks.

You mean the follow though of Congress sucks, right?

82 Mocking Jay  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 12:11:31pm

re: #77 oaktree

The herbivores, or the carnivores?

Carnivores from what I've read.

[Link: www.enchantedlearning.com...]

83 MandyManners  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 12:11:37pm

re: #76 Ben Hur

I recommend that everyone read the whole thing:

[Link: www.nationalcenter.org...]

This time, however, things are different. We have an economic program in place completely different from the artificial quick-fixes of the past. It calls for a reduction of the rate of increase in Government spending, and already that rate has been cut n early in half. But reduced spending alone isn't enough. We've just implemented the first and smallest phase of a three-year tax-rate reduction designed to stimulate the economy and create jobs.

Already interest rates are down to 15 3/4 percent, but they must still go lower. Inflation is down from 12.4 percent to 8.9, and for the month of December it was running at an annualized rate of 5.2 percent.

If we had not acted as we did, things would be far worse for all Americans than they are today. Inflation inflation, taxes and interest rates would all be higher.

A year ago, Americans' faith in their governmental process was steadily declining. Six out of ten Americans were saying they were pessimistic about their future.

A new kind of defeatism was heard. Some said our domestic problems were uncontrollable that we had to learn to live with the-seemingly endless cycle of high inflation and high unemployment.

There were also pessimistic predictions about the relationship between our Administration and this Congress. It was said we could never work together. Well, those predictions were wrong. The record is clear, and I believe that history will remember this as an era of American renewal, remember this Administration as an Administration of change and remember this Congress as a Congress of destiny.

Together, we not only cut the increase in Government spending nearly in half, we brought about the largest tax reductions and the most sweeping changes in our tax structure since the beginning of this century. And because we indexed future taxes to the r ate of inflation, we took away Government's built-in profit on inflation and its hidden incentive to grow larger at the expense of American workers.

I miss Reagan.

84 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 12:13:02pm

re: #82 JasonA

All that rich organ meat from taking a stegosaurus down I bet. OM NOM NOM.

Not surprised about it at all. The body finds wondrous ways of trying to deal with metabolic by-products.

85 vxbush  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 12:13:53pm

re: #69 Soap_Man

Nate Silver posted a word analysis. It's very informative. (And no, he didn't count how many times Obama used "I" or "me".)

I actually really like this. It's really useful.

86 Mad Al-Jaffee  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 12:13:57pm

re: #62 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

My bandleader has Gout and Arthritis. It was so bad a few months ago, he couldn't barely move his left index finger. Not good for a guitarist.

87 Mocking Jay  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 12:14:51pm

re: #84 oaktree

All that rich organ meat from taking a stegosaurus down I bet. OM NOM NOM.

Not surprised about it at all. The body finds wondrous ways of trying to deal with metabolic by-products.

Wondrously painful ways. Oh how I wish I had it in my hand instead of my ankle.

88 DaddyG  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 12:14:55pm

re: #49 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Sometimes, it is as simple as posting a snarky reply and then deleting it. That's what I do, anyway.

Chicken! /

89 DaddyG  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 12:16:05pm

re: #51 The Sanity Inspector

I watched it on CNN. I didn't hang around for the wrap-up, but before I turned it off, the anchor immediately pronounced the speech "substantial".


It was his longest.

90 Aceofwhat?  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 12:17:11pm

re: #71 Stanley Sea

And the current blame isn't partially correct?

IMHO, they're not even remotely comparable. I can blame a lot of things on Carter. Price controls? What an idiot...what is this, Venezuela?

But this recession was gonna go down whether it was Bush or Kerry at the helm. Pick your C+ Yale GPA...

91 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 12:17:17pm

re: #87 JasonA

I had it initially in the knee. The follow-ups since then have both been big toe. Same side. Same time of year (three years running.) Still haven't figured out what the exact trigger event/food is. I'm just careful, and quick to take a few Motrin when I feel a twinge coming on.

92 sattv4u2  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 12:17:38pm

re: #89 DaddyG

It was his longest.

Noy really

He started talking to us in the spring of 2008 and hasn't stopped since!!

//

93 Mocking Jay  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 12:19:02pm

re: #91 oaktree

I had it initially in the knee. The follow-ups since then have both been big toe. Same side. Same time of year (three years running.) Still haven't figured out what the exact trigger event/food is. I'm just careful, and quick to take a few Motrin when I feel a twinge coming on.

Left ankle for me, every time. A fellow sufferer has suggested that Aleve is the way to go, so I'll give that a shot next time.

94 sattv4u2  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 12:19:07pm

re: #91 oaktree

I had it initially in the knee. The follow-ups since then have both been big toe. Same side. Same time of year (three years running.) Still haven't figured out what the exact trigger event/food is. I'm just careful, and quick to take a few Motrin when I feel a twinge coming on.

Are you a beer drinker?

95 DaddyG  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 12:19:20pm

re: #64 John Neverbend

Sorry to hear that. Did you know that gout used to be known as "The Rich Man's disease" or even "The Disease of Kings"?

I wonder if Tiger Woods has any diseases endemic to golfers?

96 Ojoe  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 12:19:55pm

Who Watched.

Caveat lector media obsletua.

97 MandyManners  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 12:20:40pm

re: #96 Ojoe

Who Watched.

Caveat lector media obsletua.

Engrish?

98 webevintage  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 12:20:41pm

re: #72 Killgore Trout

Wingnuts upstage Chris Mathews for blatant racism...
The Lesson of an Affirmative Action President (via Crazy Pam)

By James Lewis

It doesn't get much more blatant that this.

Oh goody, another white hetro guy whining about how the gov't is out to give all his stuff to women, gays and brown folks.
If only we could all remember our place.
whaaaaa....my little violin it does not care....

99 Kragar  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 12:20:45pm

The conclusions they took from this poll just seems too flaky to be taken seriously to me. Looking at their methods, the results would always seem to skew in favor of diehard presidential supporters ending up as the majority of those being polled, regardless of who held office.

100 Ojoe  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 12:20:52pm

re: #96 Ojoe

obsoletua

PIMF

101 Ojoe  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 12:21:35pm

re: #97 MandyManners

Latin with a misspelling, meaning

Let the reader of the old media beware.

102 MandyManners  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 12:22:51pm

re: #101 Ojoe

Latin with a misspelling, meaning

Let the reader of the old media beware.

Thank you.

103 robdouth  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 12:22:55pm
Just 17 percent disapproved — typical of the high support a president generally receives among those who choose to watch the State of the Union. In January 2002 — when George W. Bush gave the State of the Union Address a year into his presidency — 85% of speech watchers approved.

I would argue that these numbers are not "interesting" as Charles proposed but the exact opposite. Droll and meaningless. Bush got 85% also? Therefore the numbers are meaningless.

104 Blueheron  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 12:23:10pm

re: #3 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

They didn't ask me. But honestly? I don't know what he proposed. Were there concrete tangible proposals? Or were they more "pie in the sky" theoretical esoteric ideas.


I'll drink to that.
I liked the ideas of off shore oil drilling and nuclear plants but I wonder if the Pubs want that what they have to give HIM to get those concessions.

In any case high speed rail in Florida? I understand they been going to build that for a very long time. It sounds like a good talking point for Demos down here to avoid being thrown out in November.
I think I will vote to throw them out anyway because if it is a good idea the new Pubs should be all for it after we vote them in.

105 The Sanity Inspector  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 12:24:00pm

re: #69 Soap_Man

Nate Silver posted a word analysis. It's very informative. (And no, he didn't count how many times Obama used "I" or "me".)

To me, the whole word count thing in a speech is like comparing how many bricks are in a tudor mcmansion vs. a split-level ranch. It's beside the point.

106 tripletdad1996  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 12:24:30pm

All the conservatives I've talked to at work today, 10+, say they didn't watch it, I'm the only conservative that did. So given that conservatives didn't watch it, I can believe 84% of the people that did liked what he said.

107 cliffster  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 12:24:48pm

I have a question about SQL. Is this the right blog for that?

108 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 12:25:36pm

I'm just going to hang out with the majority of the people who watched the speech here, who must be just TOTALLY KAARAAAZY because they're not dissecting and raging over everything the president said, saying things like "we're fucked" and attacking the competence of the first lady.

What's up, 83% majority? Give me a high-five!

109 Mocking Jay  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 12:25:57pm

re: #103 robdouth

I would argue that these numbers are not "interesting" as Charles proposed but the exact opposite. Droll and meaningless. Bush got 85% also? Therefore the numbers are meaningless.

That was also a few months after 9/11, when we were more united than at any point since.

110 sattv4u2  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 12:26:00pm

re: #107 cliffster

I have a question about SQL. Is this the right blog for that?

SQUIRRELS!?!?!

//

111 badger1970  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 12:26:03pm

re: #106 tripletdad1996

"I don't know how he won. Everyone I talked to voted for the other guy."- old quote

I believe the poll sampling was listed above.

112 robdouth  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 12:26:17pm

re: #106 tripletdad1996

I didn't watch it, but not because I don't support Obama's policies. I just refuse to watch these kind of pep rallies. I think the last one I was able to stomach was the 2002 one after the 9/11 attacks. Otherwise I find something to do that will interfere with my ability to watch it because nothing good ever comes from them.

113 Kragar  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 12:26:17pm

BULLSHIT ALERT

Hamas Says Killed Israeli Civilians By Mistake

The Islamist group Hamas, rejecting charges of war crimes in a U.N. report, said on Thursday three Israeli civilians killed in rocket attacks by its members during Israel's Gaza offensive last year were hit by mistake.

Hamas said the explanation was part of its 52-page response to a U.N. report on last year's Gaza war by a panel led by jurist Richard Goldstone, which accused it of targeting civilians by firing hundreds of rockets on Israeli communities.

"The killing of three Israeli civilians as alleged by Israel and as mentioned in the Goldstone report was by mistake and the target was military installations inside the Zionist cities," said Salah al-Bardaweel, a senior Hamas official.

"Resistance fighters were warned against hitting civilians."

However, New York-based Human Rights Watch rejected the Islamists' claim of unintentionally targeting civilians and even noted comments by Hamas leaders during the three-week conflict that said attacks against Israeli civilians were acceptable.

"Hamas's claim that rockets were intended to hit Israeli military targets and only accidentally harmed civilians is belied by the facts," the rights group said.

114 Charles Johnson  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 12:26:32pm

re: #72 Killgore Trout

Wingnuts upstage Chris Mathews for blatant racism...
The Lesson of an Affirmative Action President (via Crazy Pam)

By James Lewis

It doesn't get much more blatant that this.

James Lewis is the American Thinker blogger who wrote that I had been taken in by sekrit double agents trying to make the Vlaams Belang look bad:

[Link: www.americanthinker.com...]

115 The Left  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 12:26:47pm

re: #108 WindUpBird

I'm just going to hang out with the majority of the people who watched the speech here, who must be just TOTALLY KAARAAAZY because they're not dissecting and raging over everything the president said, saying things like "we're fucked" and attacking the competence of the first lady.

What's up, 83% majority? Give me a high-five!

Booyahkasha!
/ali g and uk ref.

116 sattv4u2  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 12:27:18pm

re: #114 Charles

James Lewis is the American Thinker blogger who wrote that I had been taken in by sekrit double agents trying to make the Vlaams Belang look bad:

[Link: www.americanthinker.com...]

heh ,, they don't need anyones help!!!

117 Mad Al-Jaffee  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 12:27:28pm

re: #110 sattv4u2

SQUIRRELS!?!?!

//

MOOSE?

118 tradewind  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 12:28:04pm

Speaking of interesting numbers....
[Link: www.rasmussenreports.com...]

119 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 12:28:27pm

re: #114 Charles

James Lewis is the American Thinker blogger who wrote that I had been taken in by sekrit double agents trying to make the Vlaams Belang look bad:

[Link: www.americanthinker.com...]

Ah, thanks. I tried to look into his background but couldn't figure out who he is. I guess the EuroFascist support explains it.

120 sattv4u2  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 12:28:40pm

OT

The Oklahoma Womens basketball coach is H O T !

(we now return you to your regularly scheduled program)

121 Ben Hur  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 12:28:42pm

re: #108 WindUpBird

I'm just going to hang out with the majority of the people who watched the speech here, who must be just TOTALLY KAARAAAZY because they're not dissecting and raging over everything the president said, saying things like "we're fucked" and attacking the competence of the first lady.

What's up, 83% majority? Give me a high-five!

HERE.

122 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 12:29:37pm

re: #117 Mad Al-Jaffee

MOOSE?

Sarah?

123 Blueheron  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 12:29:38pm

re: #108 WindUpBird

I'm just going to hang out with the majority of the people who watched the speech here, who must be just TOTALLY KAARAAAZY because they're not dissecting and raging over everything the president said, saying things like "we're fucked" and attacking the competence of the first lady.

What's up, 83% majority? Give me a high-five!

Did you like the speech or not?

124 Mad Al-Jaffee  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 12:29:45pm

re: #120 sattv4u2

OT

The Oklahoma Womens basketball coach is H O T !

(we now return you to your regularly scheduled program)

Picture please?

One of my high school friends is married to the University of Maryland Lady Terps' coach.

125 Mad Al-Jaffee  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 12:29:59pm

re: #122 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Sarah?

Fearless Leader?

126 MandyManners  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 12:30:08pm

re: #121 Ben Hur

HERE.

Uh...that's not sugar dude. You forgot you were fappin'

What?

127 Aceofwhat?  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 12:30:18pm

re: #114 Charles

bwahahahaha! i thought when you wrote that the other day that some random poster said that...not a person who takes themselves as seriously as he does...

//so how's the pay in double sekrit land//

128 MandyManners  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 12:30:26pm

Duh.

129 wrenchwench  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 12:31:34pm

re: #119 Killgore Trout

Ah, thanks. I tried to look into his background but couldn't figure out who he is. I guess the EuroFascist support explains it.

Too damn many James Lewises out there. I think he's the same guy as the one at PJM.

130 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 12:31:43pm

re: #72 Killgore Trout

Cool, I'm a women-homosexual-or-illegal aliens! I'm taking over the country!

Identity politics and demonizing the other. Reminds me of my coworker who freaked out right before the presidential election because she thought "under Obama, only blacks will get welfare!" It was pretty great impotent rage, no doubt cornfed by hysterical talk screamers on the AM dial. When will these guys learn, they're just not going to be relevant until their policies aren't exclusionary and xenophobic?

There is this problem of having to change the mind of their base, which seems to be...getting more and more extreme, day by day.

131 DaddyG  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 12:32:04pm

re: #118 tradewind

Speaking of interesting numbers...
[Link: www.rasmussenreports.com...]

I love the town categories "Gay friendly resort - academic - middle mass..." I can imagine if they did that in the Atlanta area metro: "Gay friendly Midtown - Hip Hop Downtown - WASPish suburbs - Redneck mountain dwellers..."

132 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 12:32:17pm

re: #121 Ben Hur

HERE.

ahahah WELL PLAYED :D

133 sattv4u2  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 12:32:51pm

re: #124 Mad Al-Jaffee

Picture please?

One of my high school friends is married to the University of Maryland Lady Terps' coach.

I'll have to look one up in GOOGLE,,, i'm at work and we're doing a satellite coaches show for OU

lets see ,, here

[Link: images.google.com...]

134 SixDegrees  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 12:33:18pm

OK, I'll just state upfront that I loathe and despite WalMart and all they stand for.

But their latest commercial is...well, either hilarious or terrifying, depending on your views about clowns:

Youtube Video
135 vxbush  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 12:33:37pm

re: #105 The Sanity Inspector

To me, the whole word count thing in a speech is like comparing how many bricks are in a tudor mcmansion vs. a split-level ranch. It's beside the point.

I can understand that position, but I rather liked seeing which "buzzwords" were used. He compared Obama's speech yesterday with the one Obama gave a year ago and several other SOTU speeches by Bush, Clinton, Bush 41, Nixon, etc. Very interesting to see how certain topics bubble to the top for each.

136 Mad Al-Jaffee  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 12:33:48pm

re: #133 sattv4u2

I'll have to look one up in GOOGLE,,, i'm at work and we're doing a satellite coaches show for OU

lets see ,, here

[Link: images.google.com...]

Thanks. My father went to OU.

137 Kragar  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 12:34:22pm

re: #134 SixDegrees

KILL IT WITH FIRE!

138 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 12:34:31pm

re: #123 Blueheron

Did you like the speech or not?

I did! I give it a solid B.

Not one mention of Getting Our Ass To Mars or Human animal hybrids :D

139 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 12:34:37pm

re: #134 SixDegrees

Funny as hell, IMO.

Bret Favre's Sears commercials are cool too.

140 DaddyG  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 12:34:43pm

re: #133 sattv4u2

I'll have to look one up in GOOGLE,,, i'm at work and we're doing a satellite coaches show for OU

lets see ,, here

[Link: images.google.com...]

I bet Bobby Knight couldn't have coached a whole game in high heels without breaking an ankle.

141 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 12:35:10pm

re: #94 sattv4u2

Not consistently. And alcohol (beer) isn't a primary trigger since I've had flare-ups during a period when I wasn't drinking at all.

Alcohol consumption for me is a on-and-off thing. Glass of wine now and then. A beer now and then, usually when out with friends. Harder stuff now and then when I'm in the mood. Mainly drink water, tea, and coffee (and a lot less of the last since work went back to the mass-consumption coffee packs that taste really awful.)

My personal opinion is that my flare-ups (usually in the fall) are a combination of less exercise (due to weather getting colder), vegetable consumption dropping a bit post harvest, and I suspect an increased consumption of seafood right around that time. Less one food kicking it off, then a combination of litte triggers pushing it over a threshold.

And since then I've definitely kept my water intake at a higher level and kept an eye out to keep myself properly hydrated. (Having a kidney stone or two bouncing around is another reason to keep up on that.)

142 DaddyG  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 12:35:13pm

re: #134 SixDegrees

OK, I'll just state upfront that I loathe and despite WalMart and all they stand for.

But their latest commercial is...well, either hilarious or terrifying, depending on your views about clowns:

[Video]


That there is funny - I don't care who ya are!

143 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 12:35:16pm

re: #140 DaddyG

I bet Bobby Knight couldn't have coached a whole game in high heels without breaking an ankle.

It's hard to hurl chairs wearing heels.

144 The Left  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 12:35:26pm

re: #119 Killgore Trout

Ah, thanks. I tried to look into his background but couldn't figure out who he is. I guess the EuroFascist support explains it.

American Thinker should be known now as "American Stinker", given that they now give the Shrieking Harpy space-- and they were the primary disseminaters of the odious Jack Cashill and his columns proclaiming that Ayers is the author of all of Obama's books.

They're still pumping out Cashill columns, btw. He's been working that particular lie since 2008, there and elsewhere.
Just fyi.

145 sattv4u2  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 12:35:40pm

re: #134 SixDegrees

OK, I'll just state upfront that I loathe and despite WalMart and all they stand for.

But their latest commercial is...well, either hilarious or terrifying, depending on your views about clowns:

[Video]

An instant classic

I love the ventriloguist Jeff Dunhams "WALTER" character

"Welcome to WALMART ,,, get your crap and get out!"

146 Kragar  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 12:36:01pm

re: #143 WindUpBird

It's hard to hurl chairs wearing heels.

Its more a question of technique

147 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 12:36:23pm

re: #107 cliffster

I have a question about SQL. Is this the right blog for that?

I'll take a shot at it. Email me via the nick.

148 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 12:36:24pm

re: #145 sattv4u2

An instant classic

I love the ventriloguist Jeff Dunhams "WALTER" character

"Welcome to WALMART ,,, get your crap and get out!"

Ever notice how much Biden looks like Walter (with more hair)?

149 sattv4u2  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 12:36:29pm

re: #146 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Its more a question of technique

Points for disatnce and accuracy!

150 Blueheron  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 12:36:45pm

re: #138 WindUpBird

I did! I give it a solid B.

Not one mention of Getting Our Ass To Mars or Human animal hybrids :D

I liked it too but now in the sober light of day I don't know if I like it.
You have to give it to him he is a stem winder.

151 sattv4u2  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 12:36:57pm

re: #148 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Ever notice how much Biden looks like Walter (with more hair)?

EXACTLY !!! Same furrowed brow, even when smiling!

152 cliffster  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 12:37:45pm

re: #139 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Funny as hell, IMO.

Bret Favre's Sears commercials are cool too.

Brett Favre monday-morning quarterback commercial

Youtube Video
153 sattv4u2  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 12:38:01pm

re: #141 oaktree

Not consistently. And alcohol (beer) isn't a primary trigger since I've had flare-ups during a period when I wasn't drinking at all.

Alcohol consumption for me is a on-and-off thing. Glass of wine now and then. A beer now and then, usually when out with friends. Harder stuff now and then when I'm in the mood. Mainly drink water, tea, and coffee (and a lot less of the last since work went back to the mass-consumption coffee packs that taste really awful.)

My personal opinion is that my flare-ups (usually in the fall) are a combination of less exercise (due to weather getting colder), vegetable consumption dropping a bit post harvest, and I suspect an increased consumption of seafood right around that time. Less one food kicking it off, then a combination of litte triggers pushing it over a threshold.

And since then I've definitely kept my water intake at a higher level and kept an eye out to keep myself properly hydrated. (Having a kidney stone or two bouncing around is another reason to keep up on that.)

a simple "NO" would have sufficed!!

///j/k

154 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 12:38:27pm

re: #151 sattv4u2

look at pics from last night. It was uncanny. I even mentioned it. Exact facial expression. I'm sure that they have to practice an hour and a half expression.

Can you imagine the camera on you for an hour and a half? Trying to look interested in something someone was saying?

155 webevintage  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 12:38:46pm

re: #134 SixDegrees

OK, I'll just state upfront that I loathe and despite WalMart and all they stand for.

But their latest commercial is...well, either hilarious or terrifying, depending on your views about clowns:

Dear God, all of the above.


Clowns are Satan's Minions

156 Gus  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 12:38:59pm

Oh boy. Just saw this breaking news at the LA Times.

House panel plans hearing into Toyota recalls

Why do we need a hearing for this?

157 DaddyG  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 12:39:48pm

re: #143 WindUpBird

It's hard to hurl chairs wearing heels.

I was in the Marching Band at Illinois in 1983 and had a front row seat to the Bo Shembechler KneePad throw.

158 sattv4u2  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 12:40:09pm

re: #156 Gus 802

Oh boy. Just saw this breaking news at the LA Times.

House panel plans hearing into Toyota recalls

Why do we need a hearing for this?

For the CHILDREN!!!!!

(I'm sure someone will!!)

159 MandyManners  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 12:40:34pm

re: #156 Gus 802

Oh boy. Just saw this breaking news at the LA Times.

House panel plans hearing into Toyota recalls

Why do we need a hearing for this?

They love to hear their own voices?

160 Mocking Jay  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 12:40:34pm

re: #156 Gus 802

Oh boy. Just saw this breaking news at the LA Times.

House panel plans hearing into Toyota recalls

Why do we need a hearing for this?

I wonder the same thing during every steroid hearing. It's like these guys don't have more important things to do...

161 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 12:40:35pm

Back to work. Let's hope i make a couple more grand today. I could sure use it.

Take luck!

162 tradewind  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 12:40:38pm

re: #134 SixDegrees

My complete fave commercial is the e-trader baby who used his profits to hire a clown, but ' kind of underestimated the creep factor '.

163 Gus  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 12:40:47pm

re: #158 sattv4u2

For the CHILDREN!!!

(I'm sure someone will!!)

For something. I thought that's why we had Federal agencies.

164 Kragar  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 12:40:50pm

re: #154 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

look at pics from last night. It was uncanny. I even mentioned it. Exact facial expression. I'm sure that they have to practice an hour and a half expression.

Can you imagine the camera on you for an hour and a half? Trying to look interested in something someone was saying?

Its easy if you picky someone who is easily excited. Imagine if this guy were there

165 DaddyG  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 12:41:29pm

re: #156 Gus 802

Oh boy. Just saw this breaking news at the LA Times.

House panel plans hearing into Toyota recalls

Why do we need a hearing for this?

Congress is always out in front on the Monday Morning Quarterbacking and Dead Horse Beating.

166 MandyManners  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 12:41:43pm

re: #164 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Its easy if you picky someone who is easily excited. Imagine if this guy were there

The Secret Service would be all over him.

167 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 12:41:59pm

re: #138 WindUpBird

The cat lords vetoed that idea beforehand.

168 Kragar  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 12:42:00pm

re: #156 Gus 802

Oh boy. Just saw this breaking news at the LA Times.

House panel plans hearing into Toyota recalls

Why do we need a hearing for this?

It makes it seems like they're doing something.

169 Gus  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 12:42:35pm

re: #160 JasonA

I wonder the same thing during every steroid hearing. It's like these guys don't have more important things to do...

Exactly. They had those baseball/steroid hearing and when they were done everyone was like, "OK, they all said they didn't take steroids." Jump to one year later and after millions of dollars spent on hearing we get the confessions from some of the baseball players.

170 tradewind  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 12:42:43pm

re: #95 DaddyG

Woodus Promiscuous.

171 Ben Hur  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 12:43:56pm

Pete Townshend's Face is All Over Miami, But Probably Not How He'd Like

Back in early January, a South Florida child abuse prevention group wanted The Who off the Super Bowl halftime show. Pete Townshend was arrested in 2003 on "suspicion of possessing child pornography." He was cleared, saying he was doing research for a project on child abuse. UK police cleared him. Well, evidently that wasn't enough because now this is going around.

pre-Hassan, Hassan defense?

172 Gus  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 12:44:14pm

re: #168 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

It makes it seems like they're doing something.

Yep. A PR move. Another chance for them to play "Mr. Smith goes to Washington."

173 DaddyG  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 12:44:29pm

re: #170 tradewind

Woodus Promiscuous.


That's a disease of the Putter.

174 MandyManners  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 12:44:53pm

re: #173 DaddyG

That's a disease of the Putter.

They have meds for that now.

175 Silvergirl  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 12:45:15pm

re: #143 WindUpBird

It's hard to hurl chairs wearing heels.

Speak for yourself, WUB. I've got it down.

176 Mocking Jay  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 12:45:38pm

Oh fer cryin' out loud. CNN is on the Alito thing again. Is it really that bad to mouth something to yourself in response to a comment?

177 Obdicut  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 12:45:49pm

re: #174 MandyManners

Yeah, but they're hard to take. They don't go down easily. Kind of tastes like wood, especially in the morning.

178 Mocking Jay  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 12:45:58pm

re: #175 Silvergirl

Speak for yourself, WUB. I've got it down.

Kinky.

179 tradewind  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 12:46:03pm

re: #173 DaddyG

Whatever it is, it sounds rough.

180 Aceofwhat?  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 12:46:08pm

re: #176 JasonA

Oh fer cryin' out loud. CNN is on the Alito thing again. Is it really that bad to mouth something to yourself in response to a comment?

Especially when you're right!?

181 DaddyG  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 12:46:31pm

re: #177 Obdicut

Yeah, but they're hard to take. They don't go down easily. Kind of tastes like wood, especially in the morning.


The splinters are a birch.

182 tradewind  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 12:47:08pm

re: #176 JasonA

Especially when you're right and POTUS, who should know better, is wrong on a point of fact?

183 Mocking Jay  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 12:47:27pm

re: #180 Aceofwhat?

Especially when you're right!?

I don't care about right or wrong in this case. The man was just sitting there and said something to himself. I can't make a big deal out of this.

184 Silvergirl  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 12:47:48pm

re: #66 lawhawk

... you get nothing. You lose. Good day Sir! /Willy Wonka

Nearly always in my changeable list of top ten films.

185 MandyManners  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 12:48:02pm

re: #177 Obdicut

Yeah, but they're hard to take. They don't go down easily. Kind of tastes like wood, especially in the morning.

Grind it up.

186 webevintage  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 12:48:14pm

re: #69 Soap_Man

Nate Silver posted a word analysis. It's very informative. (And no, he didn't count how many times Obama used "I" or "me".)

ZOMG!!!11111!!!!
OBAMBI did not use the words FREE or FREEDOM or LIBERTY or TERROR or TERRORISIM or ISLAMOFASCIST. He hates us, why does he HATE America. THINK of the CHILDRENS!
/////

(has to be the meme somewhere on the intertubes today)

It is an interesting group of charts though...

187 DaddyG  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 12:48:19pm

re: #176 JasonA

Oh fer cryin' out loud. CNN is on the Alito thing again. Is it really that bad to mouth something to yourself in response to a comment?


I thought the minority party gave the response not the Supreme Court?

188 tradewind  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 12:48:45pm

re: #183 JasonA

If he had known he was going to receive grief like that, I bet he wishes he had pulled a Wilson.

189 Ben Hur  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 12:49:17pm

re: #182 tradewind

Especially when you're right and POTUS, who should know better, is wrong on a point of fact?

What the hell does Alito know.

Was he a constitutional law "professor"?

190 Locker  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 12:49:25pm

re: #183 JasonA

I don't think it's a big deal either but these 24 hour media organizations are ravenous for content. It seems there is a large body of content, every single day, that isn't a big deal. Just have to fill up those pages I guess...

191 Mocking Jay  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 12:49:58pm

re: #190 Locker

I don't think it's a big deal either but these 24 hour media organizations are ravenous for content. It seems there is a large body of content, every single day, that isn't a big deal. Just have to fill up those pages I guess...

Haiti's old news already.

192 Ben Hur  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 12:50:10pm

re: #186 webevintage

ZOMG!!!11111!!!
OBAMBI did not use the words FREE or FREEDOM or LIBERTY or TERROR or TERRORISIM or ISLAMOFASCIST. He hates us, why does he HATE America. THINK of the CHILDRENS!
///

(has to be the meme somewhere on the intertubes today)

It is an interesting group of charts though...

You forgot Victory.

193 DaddyG  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 12:50:29pm

re: #183 JasonA

I don't care about right or wrong in this case. The man was just sitting there and said something to himself. I can't make a big deal out of this.

It was easier for the cameras to find him when Obama referenced the court than it would have been to pick out any individual senator or representative for a reaction. The lesson here is when the President picks you out in the SOTU don't pick your nose or mutter to yourself.

194 Gus  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 12:50:39pm

re: #187 DaddyG

I thought the minority party gave the response not the Supreme Court?

If that's the case let's review the tape and see who else was mouthing words to themselves. Get lip readers to review and translate. Maybe start using parabolic microphones to pick up the conversations.

I see Harry Reid fell asleep.

195 Ojoe  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 12:50:49pm

Free speech includes the right to silently make comments with your lips during a presidential speech.

196 Silvergirl  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 12:50:58pm

re: #154 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

look at pics from last night. It was uncanny. I even mentioned it. Exact facial expression. I'm sure that they have to practice an hour and a half expression.

Can you imagine the camera on you for an hour and a half? Trying to look interested in something someone was saying?

Infinitely tough. Acting sincere is a drain. It's gotta be there. Or it's not.

197 Obdicut  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 12:51:06pm

re: #185 MandyManners

Ow.

198 DaddyG  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 12:51:06pm

re: #188 tradewind

If he had known he was going to receive grief like that, I bet he wishes he had pulled a Wilson.


I don't think he's into volleyballs like that.

199 tradewind  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 12:51:14pm

re: #189 Ben Hur

Seriously.
Actually, I'm more irked by Obama's bald-faced one re the lobbyists that he nevuh, evuh, allows into Pandora.//

200 Mocking Jay  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 12:51:23pm

re: #193 DaddyG

I could be wrong, but I don't think Justices are as used to the spotlight as Congressmen, either.

201 Ben Hur  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 12:52:21pm

re: #199 tradewind

Seriously.
Actually, I'm more irked by Obama's bald-faced one re the lobbyists that he nevuh, evuh, allows into Pandora.//

Occasionally, it felt as if he was campaigning....against himself.

202 DaddyG  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 12:52:21pm

re: #195 Ojoe

Free speech includes the right to silently make comments with your lips during a presidential speech.


Are obscene gestures with your lips and tongue protected too? /

203 Silvergirl  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 12:53:00pm

re: #198 DaddyG

I don't think he's into volleyballs like that.

WILSON!

204 tradewind  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 12:53:01pm

re: #200 JasonA

Obama broke Unwritten Rule # 1 re SCOTUS:
Thou Shalt Not Drag Them Into Politics.

205 Ojoe  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 12:53:25pm

re: #202 DaddyG

Like this?

"Pffiibbiiith."™


You bet.

206 DaddyG  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 12:53:32pm

re: #204 tradewind

Obama broke Unwritten Rule # 1 re SCOTUS:
Thou Shalt Not Drag Them Into Politics.

FDR kinda ruined it for him.

207 Gus  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 12:53:35pm

re: #201 Ben Hur

Occasionally, it felt as if he was campaigning...against himself.

I thought the president's remarks about "campaigning" was rather... ironic.

208 Ben Hur  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 12:54:20pm

I've had entirely too much coffee today.

209 Digital Display  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 12:54:23pm

re: #195 Ojoe

Free speech includes the right to silently make comments with your lips during a presidential speech.

I would have just flipped him off.. what could they do? He has a lifetime job

210 Ojoe  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 12:55:53pm

re: #209 HoosierHoops

"in good behavior."

(the Constitution)

211 Obdicut  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 12:56:01pm

re: #208 Ben Hur

One day I will invent anti-coffee, and we will all be able to achieve perfect caffeine balance.

212 Killgore Trout  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 12:56:06pm

Wingnut unhinged....
Breitbart Takes On MSNBC's Shuster Over O'Keefe Scandal (video)

Breitbart is spinning for his life.

213 Big Steve  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 12:56:09pm

regarding the Alito clip......I would have been happy if someone checked Ruth Bader Ginsburg's pulse....she wasn't looking too good there.

214 DaddyG  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 12:57:08pm

re: #213 Big Steve

regarding the Alito clip...I would have been happy if someone checked Ruth Bader Ginsburg's pulse...she wasn't looking too good there.


She spends at least an hour a day under a moon lamp to get that glow.

215 tradewind  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 12:57:24pm

re: #203 Silvergirl

[Link: www.sportsunlimitedinc.com...]

216 Ben Hur  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 12:57:47pm

re: #211 Obdicut

One day I will invent anti-coffee, and we will all be able to achieve perfect caffeine balance.

You know mine.

217 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 12:58:00pm

[PBS Logo]
[Alistair Sims]:
Tonight on Masterpiece Political Theater we show Part IV of our presentation of _White House: The Obama Years_ This episode open with the State of the Union Address, an entertaining American tradition that reached it's zenith with the WindUpBird interpretative dance presentation in 2017. However, the passage of the Get On With It Act of 2022 led to the current presentation of the President's Annual Message to Congress as a Twitter feed.

Of special note in this time period is that more attention and significance is attached to the tie knot that the President uses than the content of the speech itself.

//

218 MandyManners  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 12:58:26pm

re: #211 Obdicut

One day I will invent anti-coffee, and we will all be able to achieve perfect caffeine balance.

Valium?

219 Sheila Broflovski  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 12:58:43pm

re: #45 JasonA

Wow. I'm sick. And am on the recovery end of a bad gout attack. I feel your pain, FBV.

Stay away from red wine and mushrooms

220 lawhawk  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 12:59:26pm

re: #213 Big Steve

She's dealing with all kinds of health issues, and I'm surprised that she's still at it (probably the work is what keeps her going). Don't agree with her position on lots of issues, but she's been treated for colon and pancreatic cancer at different points in the past decade. That's got to have taken a toll on her physically.

221 MandyManners  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 1:00:09pm

re: #213 Big Steve

regarding the Alito clip...I would have been happy if someone checked Ruth Bader Ginsburg's pulse...she wasn't looking too good there.

re: #214 DaddyG

She spends at least an hour a day under a moon lamp to get that glow.

She's had cancer. Twice.

222 Obdicut  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 1:00:11pm

re: #218 MandyManners

I found out long ago that taking a few valium and a pot of coffee does not make me relaxed and alert.

Pretty trippy, though.

223 tradewind  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 1:01:24pm

re: #214 DaddyG

Colon resection after cancer, chemotherapy.......
Might have some effect on the complexion. I wish her Godspeed in her recovery, if not her agenda.

224 MandyManners  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 1:01:26pm

re: #222 Obdicut

I found out long ago that taking a few valium and a pot of coffee does not make me relaxed and alert.

Pretty trippy, though.

Sounds like a stepped-down version of a speed-ball.

225 Obdicut  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 1:02:15pm

re: #224 MandyManners

I'm a skinflint.

226 DaddyG  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 1:03:43pm

re: #220 lawhawk

re: #221 MandyManners

Oops- sorry. I am about as white as she is, that was meant to be a crack about her complexion (of which I share a similar tone due to my ancestry and constant indoor work) It was not meant to be as nasty as it came across.

227 Mocking Jay  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 1:04:40pm

re: #219 Alouette

Stay away from red wine and mushrooms

I was particularly sad when I heard I shouldn't eat mushrooms :( Love them on my pizza.

228 DaddyG  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 1:05:20pm

re: #227 JasonA

I was particularly sad when I heard I shouldn't eat mushrooms :( Love them on my pizza.

If you put anything on a pizza it automatically makes it good for you.

229 Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 1:05:32pm

re: #227 JasonA

Anchovies too... :(

230 ryannon  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 1:06:13pm

re: #97 MandyManners

Engrish?

Press '2'

231 DaddyG  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 1:06:19pm

re: #214 DaddyG

Reported myself - I didn't realize what bad taste that comment could be.

232 DaddyG  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 1:06:59pm

re: #228 DaddyG

If you put anything on a pizza it automatically makes it good for you.


Mind you I'm not an expert I only play one on the interwebs.

233 Gus  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 1:07:57pm

re: #212 Killgore Trout

Wingnut unhinged...
Breitbart Takes On MSNBC's Shuster Over O'Keefe Scandal (video)

Breitbart is spinning for his life.

MSNBC shenanigans not withstanding, I'm kind of astonished that many conservative see Andrew Breitbart as one of their spokesmen. There's no excuse for defending O'Keefe, et al, at this point considering the Federal complaint. But off he goes spinning as you say mumbling and stuttering and bringing up comparisons with Major Hasan and other conspiracies relating to the MSM. He looks and sounds like a stoner with a haircut.

234 reine.de.tout  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 1:09:17pm

re: #69 Soap_Man

Nate Silver posted a word analysis. It's very informative. (And no, he didn't count how many times Obama used "I" or "me".)

Very very interesting.

235 Ben Hur  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 1:14:01pm

re: #233 Gus 802

MSNBC shenanigans not withstanding, I'm kind of astonished that many conservative see Andrew Breitbart as one of their spokesmen. There's no excuse for defending O'Keefe, et al, at this point considering the Federal complaint. But off he goes spinning as you say mumbling and stuttering and bringing up comparisons with Major Hasan and other conspiracies relating to the MSM. He looks and sounds like a stoner with a haircut.

I humbly request that you STOP BLAMING THE WEED.

Thank you.

236 Page 3 in the Binder of Women  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 1:16:38pm

re: #235 Ben Hur

I humbly request that you STOP BLAMING THE WEED.

Thank you.

Otherwise the comment was ding-worthy.

237 Raven1  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 1:22:47pm

FAT BASTARD VEGETARIAN and JASONA- I had a few gout attacks and a friend suggested I eat cherries or drink cherry juice. It worked like a charm! I heartily recommend it, try it, you will not be disappointed. I have not had a gout attack since. Once in a while eat cherries. it works.

238 Jeff In Ohio  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 1:29:01pm

re: #211 Obdicut

One day I will invent anti-coffee, and we will all be able to achieve perfect caffeine balance.

it's called marijuana.

239 RogueOne  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 1:32:48pm

re: #34 Gus 802

CBS links to the poll data in a PDF:

CBS NEWS/KNOWLEDGE NETWORKS POLL

.....However, as you can see the "Speech Viewers" was weighted towards Democrats (44% Democrats vs. 21% Republicans).

That disparity seems pretty massive.

240 Gus  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 1:32:56pm

re: #235 Ben Hur

I humbly request that you STOP BLAMING THE WEED.

Thank you.

One can smoke marijuana and not be a stoner. One can also drink alcohol and not be a drunkard. Merriam Webster defines stoner as a person who habitually uses drugs or alcohol. There are more specific definitions based on the slang usage which specifies pot smoking. I've smoked many times in my life but never considered myself a stoner.

241 CarryOn  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 2:07:13pm

Yeah, we liked his campaign speeches, too. What he says and what he does are two totally different things. I wish he'd stop campaigning.

242 Vambo  Thu, Jan 28, 2010 6:10:53pm

re: #50 Stanley Sea

Re: the blame it on Bush

Here's your tu quoque for the day

[Link: andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com...]

spineless, irresponsible liberal always blaming their incompetence on someone ell.... OOPS THAT WAS REAGAN.


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