Overnight Open Thread
I thought I’d begin by reading a poem by Shakespeare, but then I thought, why should I? He never reads any of mine.
— Spike Milligan
I thought I’d begin by reading a poem by Shakespeare, but then I thought, why should I? He never reads any of mine.
— Spike Milligan
2 | ryannon Sun, Jul 11, 2010 10:49:56pm |
3 | ryannon Sun, Jul 11, 2010 10:52:10pm |
Seven posters silently watching us circle each other:
THUNDERDOME!
Two idiots enter, four leave!
4 | Bagua Sun, Jul 11, 2010 10:54:34pm |
re: #2 ryannon
You’re a hard act to follow, Bagua.
That little fish is well into the bathypelagic zone, which starts at 1,000 metres deep. The well head is about 1524 meters deep.
6 | ryannon Sun, Jul 11, 2010 10:55:48pm |
re: #4 Bagua
That little fish is well into the bathypelagic zone, which starts at 1,000 metres deep. The well head is about 1524 meters deep.
And you’re not making it any easier…
/
7 | Varek Raith Sun, Jul 11, 2010 10:59:30pm |
re: #6 ryannon
And you’re not making it any easier…
/
The fish would asplode if brought to the surface.
9 | ryannon Sun, Jul 11, 2010 11:04:07pm |
re: #7 Varek Raith
The fish would asplode if brought to the surface.
Definitely. He needs to stay down there.
I wish him well.
10 | Bagua Sun, Jul 11, 2010 11:05:15pm |
The BaguaPage has some new features about the dramatic events taking place with the BP Oil Leak. The MC252 Well.
and
BP Oil Leak EndGame, Part II: The Capping Stack
Part II will have some additional material added.
11 | Bagua Sun, Jul 11, 2010 11:07:13pm |
re: #7 Varek Raith
The fish would asplode if brought to the surface.
Actually, no. The deeper-water fish are mostly water which doesn’t compress or decompress.
12 | Varek Raith Sun, Jul 11, 2010 11:07:46pm |
re: #11 Bagua
Actually, no. The deeper-water fish are mostly water which doesn’t compress or decompress.
D’oh!
Thanks!
:)
13 | ryannon Sun, Jul 11, 2010 11:10:27pm |
What I find odd is that no one has ever asked you how you’ve come by all this very specialized knowledge - as in, do you work in the industry, or are you just making stuff up.
Reine thinks the world of you, so I have to conclude it’s the former - or similar.
Tuan Bagua, mystery man.
14 | ryannon Sun, Jul 11, 2010 11:11:18pm |
15 | Varek Raith Sun, Jul 11, 2010 11:12:06pm |
re: #13 ryannon
What I find odd is that no one has ever asked you how you’ve come by all this very specialized knowledge - as in, do you work in the industry, or are you just making stuff up.
Reine thinks the world of you, so I have to conclude it’s the former - or similar.
Tuan Bagua, mystery man.
You don’t think he’s…one of… them, do you?
16 | Cato the Elder Sun, Jul 11, 2010 11:13:14pm |
OK, how about a little Guillaume Dufay to round out the evening/open up the morning?
17 | ryannon Sun, Jul 11, 2010 11:13:22pm |
18 | Bagua Sun, Jul 11, 2010 11:15:34pm |
re: #13 ryannon
What I find odd is that no one has ever asked you how you’ve come by all this very specialized knowledge - as in, do you work in the industry, or are you just making stuff up.
Reine thinks the world of you, so I have to conclude it’s the former - or similar.
Tuan Bagua, mystery man.
As I s’plained to reine.de.tout: I worked a couple months for Roto-Rooter which makes me about as competent as the BP engineers.
19 | iceweasel Sun, Jul 11, 2010 11:16:41pm |
re: #13 ryannon
What I find odd is that no one has ever asked you how you’ve come by all this very specialized knowledge - as in, do you work in the industry, or are you just making stuff up.
On the other hand, people feel the need to troll LVQ all the time about his credentials, despite multiple assurances from Charles and others that he’s got the skills and got the talent.
Perhaps the reason is just that it’s only assholes who need to do such things?
20 | Varek Raith Sun, Jul 11, 2010 11:18:39pm |
re: #18 Bagua
As I s’plained to reine.de.tout: I worked a couple months for Roto-Rooter which makes me about as competent as the BP engineers.
Can you fix my shower drain?
Would tossing a thermal detonator down it unclog it?
21 | Bagua Sun, Jul 11, 2010 11:18:42pm |
re: #19 iceweasel
Let’s not fight tonight dear, it was many months ago and has been dropped.
22 | Cato the Elder Sun, Jul 11, 2010 11:19:09pm |
re: #19 iceweasel
On the other hand, people feel the need to troll LVQ all the time about his credentials, despite multiple assurances from Charles and others that he’s got the skills and got the talent.
Perhaps the reason is just that it’s only assholes who need to do such things?
Or perhaps LVQ should go ahead and tone down the calls for executing “deniers”.
Just sayin’.
23 | ryannon Sun, Jul 11, 2010 11:19:55pm |
re: #19 iceweasel
On the other hand, people feel the need to troll LVQ all the time about his credentials, despite multiple assurances from Charles and others that he’s got the skills and got the talent.
Perhaps the reason is just that it’s only assholes who need to do such things?
Well, in the first place, it’s clear that Bagua is just making shit up.
But he’s humble about it.
By the way, I hope you’re not saying that I’ve ever trolled LVQ.
Or is this an attempt at rapprochement?
24 | iceweasel Sun, Jul 11, 2010 11:21:21pm |
re: #21 Bagua
Let’s not fight tonight dear, it was many months ago and has been dropped.
I wasn’t addressing you. Just making the point that if you had ‘haters’, that’s how they would behave towards you.
Have a nice night, and, as requested before, please don’t address me again. Thanks.
25 | Bagua Sun, Jul 11, 2010 11:21:41pm |
re: #20 Varek Raith
Can you fix my shower drain?
Would tossing a thermal detonator down it unclog it?
Actually, that would work. Little explosives are used routinely in deep drilling. You drop an iron bar down the pipe to activate them, when it hits the explosive pack it explodes.
27 | Bagua Sun, Jul 11, 2010 11:24:13pm |
re: #24 iceweasel
I wasn’t addressing you. …
Of course you were, and that re-post is more baiting. However, I will ignore you.
28 | iceweasel Sun, Jul 11, 2010 11:24:17pm |
re: #23 ryannon
By the way, I hope you’re not saying that I’ve ever trolled LVQ.
If you have, I don’t recall it, sorry.
I do hope you weren’t trying to imply that demands that one present credentials automatically mean such demands are justified, though.
Have a nice night!
29 | ryannon Sun, Jul 11, 2010 11:25:13pm |
re: #28 iceweasel
If you have, I don’t recall it, sorry.
I do hope you weren’t trying to imply that demands that one present credentials automatically mean such demands are justified, though.
Have a nice night!
What the hell is all this?
Best ignore it.
30 | Bagua Sun, Jul 11, 2010 11:25:49pm |
31 | ryannon Sun, Jul 11, 2010 11:27:44pm |
Take a DEEP breath: Underworld: Two Months Off
Possibly the worst video of all times and one of the most sublime tracks:
32 | Irenicum Sun, Jul 11, 2010 11:27:47pm |
Please guys. Get over each other. I try to have as few people as possible living inside my head. I recommend it!
33 | ryannon Sun, Jul 11, 2010 11:30:41pm |
re: #32 Irenicum
Please guys. Get over each other. I try to have as few people as possible living inside my head. I recommend it!
Tell it to your friend, Irenicum.
And then go back and read the progression of posts in this thread if you have any doubts.
34 | ryannon Sun, Jul 11, 2010 11:32:02pm |
re: #32 Irenicum
I’m not even casting any blame - just saying that it’s just as disturbing for me.
If you can’t say anything nice to someone, just don’t say it!
35 | ryannon Sun, Jul 11, 2010 11:35:56pm |
Wouldn’t it be great if the three of us managed to arrange a truce? Or even pass the peace-pipe?
36 | Irenicum Sun, Jul 11, 2010 11:35:58pm |
re: #33 ryannon
Ha ha, you’re funny. I like when you have something worthwhile to say, just like anyone else. I’m just tired of watching these stupid games played between aggrieved parties. Not a big fan of drama. I’d prefer to see issues debated, not personalities. And as far as not saying anything nice, don’t say it, isn’t that just a wee bit hypocritical?
37 | Irenicum Sun, Jul 11, 2010 11:37:13pm |
re: #35 ryannon
I agree. But the peace has to begin on my side for it to work. No peace has ever worked that required the other side to act first.
38 | iceweasel Sun, Jul 11, 2010 11:37:21pm |
re: #34 ryannon
I’m not even casting any blame - just saying that it’s just as disturbing for me.
If you can’t say anything nice to someone, just don’t say it!
But I did say something nice.
I agreed with you that no one was bothering to demand Bagua’s papers or credentials, and suggested that’s because it’s only hostile assholes that would repeatedly do that to a poster who’s a regular and knows his stuff.
The point being that there are no such hostile assholes here who would do that to Bagua.
39 | ryannon Sun, Jul 11, 2010 11:37:26pm |
re: #36 Irenicum
Ha ha, you’re funny. I like when you have something worthwhile to say, just like anyone else. I’m just tired of watching these stupid games played between aggrieved parties. Not a big fan of drama. I’d prefer to see issues debated, not personalities. And as far as not saying anything nice, don’t say it, isn’t that just a wee bit hypocritical?
Well, it’s been established that I’m an awful hypocrite.
Just go back far enough, and you’ll find the evidence.
Isn’t it possible to live in the present on this forum?
40 | Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light) Sun, Jul 11, 2010 11:37:45pm |
Better a dead thread than a passive-aggreesive flaming match.
later
41 | Cato the Elder Sun, Jul 11, 2010 11:39:35pm |
Personally, all I can say is, LVQ has put me off forever from caring about AGW.
I figure, anyone that hysterical just has to be wrong somewhere.
I don’t care if he’s wrong in the science, the prognostications, or the toolaroom-foolaroom-tra-la-la-diddy-o, he’s wrong somewhere.
And this is me not giving a fuck anymore.
42 | Irenicum Sun, Jul 11, 2010 11:39:56pm |
re: #40 ralphieboy
Ha. And here I am being Switzerland again.
43 | ryannon Sun, Jul 11, 2010 11:40:17pm |
re: #38 iceweasel
But I did say something nice.
I agreed with you that no one was bothering to demand Bagua’s papers or credentials, and suggested that’s because it’s only hostile assholes that would repeatedly do that to a poster who’s a regular and knows his stuff.The point being that there are no such hostile assholes here who would do that to Bagua.
Ok - I just didn’t get it.
There’s been a wee bit of tension between us lately, and it was difficult for me to believe that things weren’t starting up again.
We’ve both been extremely hard on each other in the past, but it’s pretty clear that it’s not a lot of fun - at least not for me.
Wouldn’t it be great if we could save our energy for battles that really count?
44 | Bagua Sun, Jul 11, 2010 11:41:21pm |
re: #38 iceweasel
But I did say something nice.
I agreed with you that no one was bothering to demand Bagua’s papers or credentials, and suggested that’s because it’s only hostile assholes that would repeatedly do that to a poster who’s a regular and knows his stuff.The point being that there are no such hostile assholes here who would do that to Bagua.
No, the point being to imply I am a “hostile asshole” as it was I who was questioning Ludwig’s credentials many months ago. Yet Ludwig and I have obviously moved beyond our troubles for several months, yet here you are baiting me with it to interrupt my BP Oil Spill updates.
46 | Irenicum Sun, Jul 11, 2010 11:43:10pm |
re: #41 Cato the Elder
Cato. I can understand your revulsion at the extremes of what LVQ has said, including calls for execution. But please don’t let that behavior put you off to the science behind the issue. Even Charles has spoken out against that kind of rhetoric. Look past it. And I say that as a friend of LVQ.
47 | ryannon Sun, Jul 11, 2010 11:44:12pm |
I mean, we’re supposed to be intelligent.re: #45 boxhead
Hi all… just got in. wassup tonite?
rapprochement.
48 | Irenicum Sun, Jul 11, 2010 11:44:32pm |
re: #43 ryannon
I like what you said here. I really do feel sometimes like Rodney King asking if we could just only get along.
50 | ryannon Sun, Jul 11, 2010 11:45:38pm |
It’s staring us in the face.
It’s time to throw in the towel and admit victory: a win-win situation for everyone if we can just move on.
51 | boxhead Sun, Jul 11, 2010 11:45:58pm |
re: #47 ryannon
I mean, we’re supposed to be intelligent.
rapprochement.
yes.. i agree… so… be intelligent! :)
52 | ryannon Sun, Jul 11, 2010 11:48:18pm |
54 | Bagua Sun, Jul 11, 2010 11:49:25pm |
55 | boxhead Sun, Jul 11, 2010 11:49:29pm |
re: #52 ryannon
thx… just got home… dealing with hungry dog and stuff.. :)
57 | Bagua Sun, Jul 11, 2010 11:51:35pm |
58 | ryannon Sun, Jul 11, 2010 11:52:14pm |
re: #54 Bagua
Where’s Poopzilla?
Flopped down on the covers right next to me, just below the Dell, and grunting like a little pig: it’s a sign that he want’s his morning affection. And he’ll get up, walk over and bite me if I don’t give it to him.
59 | boxhead Sun, Jul 11, 2010 11:53:49pm |
60 | ryannon Sun, Jul 11, 2010 11:54:34pm |
In the end, that’s what everyone wants: a little fucking affection, dammit!
Is that so hard for people to understand?
61 | Cato the Elder Sun, Jul 11, 2010 11:55:01pm |
re: #46 Irenicum
Cato. I can understand your revulsion at the extremes of what LVQ has said, including calls for execution. But please don’t let that behavior put you off to the science behind the issue. Even Charles has spoken out against that kind of rhetoric. Look past it. And I say that as a friend of LVQ.
I have never yet understood what “accepting the science” has to do with anything else in the world.
I totally accept the science that says we’re all fucked in the long run. Nothing in science or politics or policy or planning or planethood has ever shown me what the fuck to do about it, except perhaps to become, as LVQ already is in larval form, an ecofascist and kill a whole lotta people in the hopes that will help.
Sorry, not on board with that.
“But billions will die.”
And so will I.
So mote it be.
63 | Bagua Sun, Jul 11, 2010 11:56:39pm |
re: #58 ryannon
Flopped down on the covers right next to me, just below the Dell, and grunting like a little pig: it’s a sign that he want’s his morning affection. And he’ll get up, walk over and bite me if I don’t give it to him.
Yikes! Respect the bird!
(I tried linking to poopzilla’s photo but it is deleted)
64 | boxhead Sun, Jul 11, 2010 11:56:41pm |
re: #57 Bagua
maybe 1 minute left in overtime Spain scored.. Dutch was one player short due to Red card.
65 | Irenicum Sun, Jul 11, 2010 11:56:47pm |
As I just said on the other thread, g’nite gang. Good fun as always. See y’all later.
66 | boxhead Sun, Jul 11, 2010 11:57:32pm |
re: #65 Irenicum
As I just said on the other thread, g’nite gang. Good fun as always. See y’all later.
late
67 | Bagua Sun, Jul 11, 2010 11:58:13pm |
re: #65 Irenicum
As I just said on the other thread, g’nite gang. Good fun as always. See y’all later.
Goodnight Irenicum.
68 | Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light) Sun, Jul 11, 2010 11:58:18pm |
re: #64 boxhead
maybe 1 minute left in overtime Spain scored.. Dutch was one player short due to Red card.
It was a lame game, more than 20 fouls in the first half alone.
Some games can be fun to watch, this one wasn’t.
69 | Irenicum Sun, Jul 11, 2010 11:59:05pm |
Weirdness. My feed just totally freezed. LGF has been acting up lately. I’ve also found myself signed out more often too. Very strange.
70 | ryannon Sun, Jul 11, 2010 11:59:22pm |
re: #63 Bagua
Yikes! Respect the bird!
(I tried linking to poopzilla’s photo but it is deleted)
I have so much more than respect for him. He’s totally saved my ass.
Let me see if I can find the photo I posted….
71 | boxhead Sun, Jul 11, 2010 11:59:48pm |
re: #68 ralphieboy
It was a lame game, more than 20 fouls in the first half alone.
Some games can be fun to watch, this one wasn’t.
yep… beer helps though…
72 | ryannon Mon, Jul 12, 2010 12:00:27am |
re: #69 Irenicum
Weirdness. My feed just totally freezed. LGF has been acting up lately. I’ve also found myself signed out more often too. Very strange.
The servers can’t stand the mes-entente either.
73 | Cato the Elder Mon, Jul 12, 2010 12:00:41am |
re: #71 boxhead
yep… beer helps though…
Beer helps everything. I’m counting on it to get me through this AGW-plagued summer.
74 | Bagua Mon, Jul 12, 2010 12:01:21am |
re: #69 Irenicum
Weirdness. My feed just totally freezed. LGF has been acting up lately. I’ve also found myself signed out more often too. Very strange.
No, that happens. It is a lot of data for the browser to handle. Which one do you use?
75 | boxhead Mon, Jul 12, 2010 12:02:23am |
re: #73 Cato the Elder
Beer helps everything. I’m counting on it to get me through this AGW-plagued summer.
lol.. here in Los Angeles it is the coldest I have seen in a while! but i feel your pain from a few summers ago
76 | Irenicum Mon, Jul 12, 2010 12:03:21am |
re: #74 Bagua
I typically use Firefox, but switched to Chrome for a bit. Back to FF now.
77 | ryannon Mon, Jul 12, 2010 12:03:56am |
Poopzilla, if the share-code works:
[IMG]i4.photobucket.com
78 | SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Jul 12, 2010 12:04:19am |
re: #63 Bagua
Yikes! Respect the bird!
(I tried linking to poopzilla’s photo but it is deleted)
My MIL has adopted a baby woodpecker.
79 | boredtechindenver Mon, Jul 12, 2010 12:04:27am |
Damn, posted this on the downstairs after it died:
There are many good reasons to watch “Glee”, but my favorite reason is to see what Brittany will say next.
And on the quasi subject of Glee, who wants to see Dianna Agron and Lea Michele star “Wicked”. I know I do. And it would fit with the original stars having both appeared on “Glee’.
“Did you know that dolphins are just gay sharks?”
80 | Bagua Mon, Jul 12, 2010 12:05:34am |
re: #76 Irenicum
I typically use Firefox, but switched to Chrome for a bit. Back to FF now.
Yep, happens a lot in firefox. Especially if you have other tabs open. Firefox doesn’t handle over about 400 megabyte of memory before it goes all wonky. You check by opening task manager and looking at the memory usage for firefox.exe
81 | ryannon Mon, Jul 12, 2010 12:06:42am |
re: #78 SanFranciscoZionist
My MIL has adopted a baby woodpecker.
Is she feeding it by hand? I presume she knows what to do if you say she’s ‘adopted it’.
If not, I can recommend forums or even people near her who can answer any questions she might have….
83 | ryannon Mon, Jul 12, 2010 12:08:51am |
re: #82 Bagua
Nope, it’s gone. Now go check your twitter.
You nuked my twitter account last week.
And it’s ‘gone’ for me too, but the original is still there on my photobucket account.. Something’s not working.
85 | Bagua Mon, Jul 12, 2010 12:12:40am |
re: #83 ryannon
Yep, now take all your cash and give it to the man wearing the black hat in front of the car rental on 82 Avenue De La Grande Armee. If all goes well I’ll restore Poopzillah and your twitter followers.
86 | Bagua Mon, Jul 12, 2010 12:14:35am |
88 | SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Jul 12, 2010 12:15:42am |
re: #81 ryannon
Is she feeding it by hand? I presume she knows what to do if you say she’s ‘adopted it’.
If not, I can recommend forums or even people near her who can answer any questions she might have…
I don’t know if she knows what she’s doing, but it’s eating lots of crickets—she does feed it by hand—and seems to be growing new feathers, and be in good spirits. It knows that her RV is home, and when it gets bored with trying to fly, it hops up the steps and waits to be let back in.
If you have links, please do let me know. She reported with disgust after a web search that all of the sites basically said that if you have to ask what they need, you shouldn’t have one. They apparently don’t know my MIL if they thought that would deter her.
90 | Irenicum Mon, Jul 12, 2010 12:16:52am |
re: #89 SanFranciscoZionist
Same here. For real this time. Nite all.
91 | ryannon Mon, Jul 12, 2010 12:16:54am |
heh - keep the money, I’ve got my magic bird:
92 | ryannon Mon, Jul 12, 2010 12:18:58am |
SFZ: I’ll post the info the next time you’re on.
93 | Cato the Elder Mon, Jul 12, 2010 12:20:38am |
Five Sons
Ick hev se nisch op de scholen gebracht,
ick hev nisch eemal över se gelacht.
Se gant nisch speelen op de straten.
Ick hev se op de wilde see gesant,
iren leevesten vader to seeken.
De een, de starv den bidderen dod.
De anner, de starv von hunger so groot.
De dridde, de wart gehangen.
De veerde, de bleev op de wilde see dod.
De fiefte flut achter dem lande.
Un as se nu op ‘n kerkhof kam,
da reef se Got, iren himmlischen vader an,
und bedet all mit fliete,
dat er Got wol de sünnen vergeeven,
und haalen er in sin rieke.
Ick hev se nisch op de scholen gebracht,
ick hev nisch eemal över se gelacht.
Se gant nisch speelen op de straten.
Ick hev se op de wilde see gesant,
iren leevesten vader to seeken.
Translation on request.
94 | Bagua Mon, Jul 12, 2010 12:22:01am |
re: #91 ryannon
It is a fascinating bird. I had doves for some time. But mostly in the cage. I never knew how social they were. I also had a rescued wild dove, but it wouldn’t accept its cage when it matured. It would flap like it was trying to fly so I let it go wild.
95 | Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light) Mon, Jul 12, 2010 12:26:31am |
re: #93 Cato the Elder
Das macht mich platt.
96 | ryannon Mon, Jul 12, 2010 12:26:42am |
re: #94 Bagua
It is a fascinating bird. I had doves for some time. But mostly in the cage. I never knew how social they were. I also had a rescued wild dove, but it wouldn’t accept its cage when it matured. It would flap like it was trying to fly so I let it go wild.
And there you go. I’ve had the ‘Zilla for almost three years exactly this month. He’s totally transformed my life. I’ll tell you about it some time when you’re here and we’re having a drink and a cigar.
97 | ryannon Mon, Jul 12, 2010 12:31:06am |
re: #94 Bagua
It is a fascinating bird. I had doves for some time. But mostly in the cage. I never knew how social they were. I also had a rescued wild dove, but it wouldn’t accept its cage when it matured. It would flap like it was trying to fly so I let it go wild.
I’m certain that rock doves (the original name for pigeons) and doves in general, go way, way back in the annals of domestication. In the middle east, people are still happy to have one or two living free somewhere on the exterior of their house. They’ll attach to a person and a place and never leave. It can go on for generations, and is considered to bring good luck, harmony and all sorts of positive things.
They’re a symbol of the freaking Holy Spirit, after all.
98 | Bagua Mon, Jul 12, 2010 12:31:42am |
re: #96 ryannon
It’s remarkable. I’m thinking of buying a bird. My doves lived in cages in the rafters. They cooed a lot, but they always had company, 2 or 3 birds to the cage.
99 | ryannon Mon, Jul 12, 2010 12:35:19am |
re: #98 Bagua
It’s remarkable. I’m thinking of buying a bird. My doves lived in cages in the rafters. They cooed a lot, but they always had company, 2 or 3 birds to the cage.
If you bought a largish bird or two (as in a couple) would you let them fly freely in your place? Normally, they’ll ‘home’ in a suitable cage and sleep and eat there - even if they’re freed. There’s a really adorable species of little birds called ‘Inseparables’ (at least in French) - kind of parrot-like and beautifully colored. All they like to do is hang out and be affectionate with each other….I’ll see if I can find some pics…
100 | ClaudeMonet Mon, Jul 12, 2010 12:42:30am |
re: #84 ryannon
That’s a beautiful pigeon (or rock dove, if you prefer that name). I know a hilarious joke about a blue pigeon, but I can’t tell it here as it’s possibly VERY offensive to one ethnic group.
101 | Bagua Mon, Jul 12, 2010 12:42:44am |
The Capping Stack
Below is a photo of the 3 Ram Stack (aka Sealing Cap) on top of the yellow Transition Spool. These are the actual components being tested.
102 | ryannon Mon, Jul 12, 2010 12:45:16am |
re: #98 Bagua
Here’s a typical image of Inseparables. Note that they’re much smaller than the photo would indicate:
103 | Cato the Elder Mon, Jul 12, 2010 12:46:10am |
104 | ryannon Mon, Jul 12, 2010 12:47:32am |
re: #100 ClaudeMonet
That’s a beautiful pigeon (or rock dove, if you prefer that name). I know a hilarious joke about a blue pigeon, but I can’t tell it here as it’s possibly VERY offensive to one ethnic group.
‘Pigeon’ is fine with me. Rock doves goes back to the time when they used to inhabit rock outcropping and cliffs. Today, it’s on rooftops and windowsills, and they’re known as pigeons.
105 | Bagua Mon, Jul 12, 2010 12:48:02am |
re: #102 ryannon
Yep, called love birds stateside.
106 | ryannon Mon, Jul 12, 2010 12:50:27am |
re: #105 Bagua
Yep, called love birds stateside.
Ah yes, of course. I had forgotten that!
107 | Bagua Mon, Jul 12, 2010 1:01:51am |
I keep crashing my firefoxes as I have too many ROV feed open.
108 | ryannon Mon, Jul 12, 2010 1:05:23am |
re: #107 Bagua
I keep crashing my firefoxes as I have too many ROV feed open.
With XP on a mid-range Dell portable that looks like it was nuked, I moved to Chrome and never looked back. Rarely ever crashes, and when it does, it remembers all the tabs that were open and put’s you right back where where. Perhaps not as many bells and whistles as firefox, but I’m certain that Google is working on all kinds of add-ons. Which I eschew: I like the leanest browser possible.
109 | ryannon Mon, Jul 12, 2010 1:06:54am |
BRB - have to check the mail, as I’m expecting a package from Amazon.
110 | Bagua Mon, Jul 12, 2010 1:08:40am |
re: #108 ryannon
I have some feeds on IE now, I think I’ll move them to Crome. I also have SeaMonkey with some other feed. Yet firefox still gets overloaded.
111 | ryannon Mon, Jul 12, 2010 1:15:18am |
re: #110 Bagua
I have some feeds on IE now, I think I’ll move them to Crome. I also have SeaMonkey with some other feed. Yet firefox still gets overloaded.
Since it sounds like your running part of NASA’s operations through your own computer, it makes sense. When in doubt, add memory - I guess.
112 | Bagua Mon, Jul 12, 2010 1:18:35am |
8 gig already, and quad core. I never come close to maxing out. It is the browsers that are unable to handle the load.
113 | ryannon Mon, Jul 12, 2010 1:23:36am |
re: #112 Bagua
8 gig already, and quad core. I never come close to maxing out. It is the browsers that are unable to handle the load.
Well, there’s your answer right there.
Here’s a video I hope you’ve never seen before: the remote cam’s up in the air, and not underwater. I just love the damn look on his face:
115 | chouch Mon, Jul 12, 2010 1:40:18am |
So this week was up at the cabin and who did I run into? Larry the Cable guy. The popular comic/conservative is just 3 cabins down on the same lake I was staying at. He’s a really nice guy, even if his political rants are a bit nuts and he’s a terrible comedian.
116 | ryannon Mon, Jul 12, 2010 1:44:01am |
I’m starting to crash. Good morning to all, and have a nice day…
119 | Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light) Mon, Jul 12, 2010 2:05:44am |
CREATIONGATE!
Scientists admit that Earth is probably younger than previously assumed:
and if they can err by 70 miliion years, than what data have these fellows “cooked” to come up with the biblically inaccurate “4.5-billion-years-old” heresy?
Adam and Eve walked the Earth with dinosaurs!
122 | WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Jul 12, 2010 2:44:50am |
i don’t need to be a global citizen
because i’m blessed by nationality
i’m member of a growing populace
we enforce our popularity
there are things that
seem to pull us under
and there are things
that drag us down
but there’s a power
and a vital presence
thats lurking all around
we’ve got the american Jesus
see him on the interstate
we’ve got the american Jesus
he helped build the
president’s estate
i feel sorry
for the earth’s population
‘cuz so few
live in the U.S.A.
at least the foreigners
can copy our morality
they can visit but they cannot stay
only precious few
can garner the prosperity
it makes us walk
with renewed confidence
we’ve got a place to go when we die
and the architect resides right here
we’ve got the american Jesus
overwhelming millions every day
(exercising his authority)
he’s the farmers barren fields
the force the army wields
the expession in the faces
of the starving children
the power of the man
he’s the fuel that drives the clan
he’s the motive and conscience
of the murderer
he’s the preacher on t.v.
the false sincerity
the form letter that’s written
by the big computers
he’s the nuclear bombs
and the kids with no moms
and i’m fearful that
he’s inside me
124 | rwdflynavy Mon, Jul 12, 2010 3:06:58am |
Good Morning Lizards!
This morning’s Simpson quote:
“Marge, don’t discourage the boy! Weaseling out of things is important to learn. It’s what separates us from the animals! Except the weasel.”
Present weasels excepted, Ice!
Off to the Salt Mines. Later Lizards
125 | WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Jul 12, 2010 3:10:47am |
Marge: “Homer, have you been up all night eating cheese?”
Homer: “I think I’m blind!”
126 | WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Jul 12, 2010 3:11:53am |
Sex on Wheels
128 | Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light) Mon, Jul 12, 2010 3:24:13am |
re: #127 Gus 802
AGW denialism lives on.
One can stil even maintain a healthy skepticism about the A in AGW, but most denialists even refuse to recognize the GW part.
And if that fails to convince, then they attack the scientists (“Climategate”), and failing that, they attack science itself (Creationism)
130 | Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light) Mon, Jul 12, 2010 3:29:39am |
re: #129 MandyManners
ROPMA hits again?
At least 64 people have died in two blasts in the Ugandan capital, Kampala.
Wonder when America is going to host the World Cup….
132 | Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light) Mon, Jul 12, 2010 3:42:56am |
Post-World Cup depression, I guess…
134 | Targetpractice Mon, Jul 12, 2010 3:43:41am |
135 | hellosnackbar Mon, Jul 12, 2010 3:50:42am |
#93 Cato the Elder,
That seems like “plat” Cato??
Incidentally the epitaph on Spike Milligan’s grave reads:
I told you I was ill!
136 | Targetpractice Mon, Jul 12, 2010 3:52:44am |
For my epitaph, I’m considering:
“This Space For Rent”
137 | Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light) Mon, Jul 12, 2010 3:52:55am |
re: #133 MandyManners
We have a team?
Come come, now. They are the reason I follow the World Cup; I generally ignore European league play and the European Cup.
My deep, secret Euroweenie liberal desire is to see President obama, as the final act of his administration in 2017, win the World Cup 2020 in America.
And to establish Death Panels fior all remaining Medicare recipients, of course.
/
139 | Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light) Mon, Jul 12, 2010 3:53:30am |
re: #136 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
For my epitaph, I’m considering:
“This Space For Rent”
Epitaph on the bluesman’s tombstone:
He didn’t wake up this mornin’…
141 | Flounder Mon, Jul 12, 2010 3:58:57am |
Work laptop was finally updated to IE8, now I can post/read comments, YAY!
143 | Flounder Mon, Jul 12, 2010 4:05:03am |
I probably won’t stick around too long, but I enjoyed Charles post about the Civil War, it is amazing how ignorant people are of our history. Read Michael and Jeff Shaara’s novels on the Civil War. If you ever get a chance, head to Gettysburg PA, it is a beautiful town, good for a long weekend!
146 | RogueOne Mon, Jul 12, 2010 4:11:19am |
re: #48 Irenicum
I like what you said here. I really do feel sometimes like Rodney King asking if we could just only get along.
One of my fav “In Living Color” bits ever:
STAY IN THE CAR!
Youtube Video
We may have won the battle but the early bird got the worm.
147 | WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Mon, Jul 12, 2010 4:21:43am |
148 | thedopefishlives Mon, Jul 12, 2010 4:31:56am |
Morning Lizardim. It’s a beautiful day in the neighborhood here in the wild north country. Looking at a nice (relatively) easy week, capped off with a visit to the new Target Field for myself and my family.
149 | Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light) Mon, Jul 12, 2010 4:35:23am |
re: #140 MandyManners
Actually, it was a serious question.
Well, seriously, our teams are getting better with each World CUp, by 2020, we night even have a serious contender.
150 | rwdflynavy Mon, Jul 12, 2010 4:37:30am |
re: #137 ralphieboy
Come come, now. They are the reason I follow the World Cup; I generally ignore European league play and the European Cup.
My deep, secret Euroweenie liberal desire is to see President obama, as the final act of his administration in 2017, win the World Cup 2020 in America.
And to establish Death Panels fior all remaining Medicare recipients, of course.
/
Given his track record, you might want a better spokesman!!
152 | Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light) Mon, Jul 12, 2010 4:46:47am |
re: #151 MandyManners
I don’t see soccer catching on here for a while. In my opinion, it’s akin to watching grass grow.
Well, more watching like grass being trampled.
I don’t see it ever reaching the level of other established pro sports, but it will continue to grow. If nothing else, demographic developments tend to favor it.
153 | rwdflynavy Mon, Jul 12, 2010 4:50:02am |
Governors Voice Grave Concerns on Immigration
Approaching third rail status?
154 | Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light) Mon, Jul 12, 2010 4:59:00am |
Iimmigration has been a third rail too long, now Arizona has started throwing its undocumented aliens onto the tracks. Other states will likely follow.
And of course, this is one issue where the Republicans have noting to gain by offering anything constructive, but rather letting the Democrats suffer politically over trying to resolve it.
155 | rwdflynavy Mon, Jul 12, 2010 5:00:32am |
re: #154 ralphieboy
Iimmigration has been a third rail too long, now Arizona has started throwing its
undocumentedillegal aliens onto the tracks. Other states will likely follow.And of course, this is one issue where the Republicans have noting to gain by offering anything constructive, but rather letting the Democrats suffer politically over trying to resolve it.
156 | rwdflynavy Mon, Jul 12, 2010 5:07:20am |
“Calling an illegal immigrant as undocumented worker is like calling a meth dealer an unlicensed pharmacist.”
158 | thedopefishlives Mon, Jul 12, 2010 5:11:02am |
159 | Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light) Mon, Jul 12, 2010 5:11:06am |
re: #155 rwdflynavy
If you wanna beat on this with the Big Stick of Righteous Indignation, then flail away. We are all aware of their legal status.
162 | Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light) Mon, Jul 12, 2010 5:12:03am |
Wail away, Mandy. THEY’RE ILLEGAL! THEY SHOULD ALL BE ROUNDED UP AND SENT HOME! Feel better?
167 | Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light) Mon, Jul 12, 2010 5:19:32am |
re: #164 MandyManners
Then, why try the euphemism?
Yunno, my sister-in-law did not marry the father of their children until some years after they were born, but I did not feel compelled to refer to him as “the father of my bastard nephew”…
Of course those undocuemted aliens are ILLEGAL, but most of them - save the coyotes, drug and gun runners - are doing nothing else illegal, they are just working and trying to earn a living that they cannot earn at home.
168 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Jul 12, 2010 5:20:07am |
re: #154 ralphieboy
And of course, this is one issue where the Republicans have noting to gain by offering anything constructive, but rather letting the Democrats suffer politically over
tryingdoing little or nothing to resolve it.
I would have written the exact same paragraph, with that small exception.
169 | Targetpractice Mon, Jul 12, 2010 5:20:40am |
re: #167 ralphieboy
Yunno, my sister-in-law did not marry the father of their children until some years after they were born, but I did not feel compelled to refer to him as “the father of my bastard nephew”…
Of course those undocuemted aliens are ILLEGAL, but most of them - save the coyotes, drug and gun runners - are doing nothing else illegal, they are just working and trying to earn a living that they cannot earn at home.
And before I was fired, I was a hard-working man trying to earn a living. That wouldn’t have gotten me out of a speeding ticket if caught on my way to work doing 10 over the limit.
173 | Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light) Mon, Jul 12, 2010 5:28:25am |
re: #172 MandyManners
And, shame on you for dragging a child into this in order to make a point.
you made me bring it up - I do see a disctinction in many cases between “illegal” (as in criminal) and “undocumented”, as with their children and dependents.
174 | Targetpractice Mon, Jul 12, 2010 5:29:10am |
re: #173 ralphieboy
you made me bring it up - I do see a disctinction in many cases between “illegal” (as in criminal) and “undocumented”, as with their children and dependents.
Are these people breaking the law as it stands right now, yes or no?
177 | Ericus58 Mon, Jul 12, 2010 5:33:37am |
Swiss authorities reject US extradition of Polanski
“Authorities in Switzerland have decided not to extradite film director Roman Polanski to the US to face sentencing for a case dating back to 1977.
Polanski, 76, has been under house arrest in his Swiss chalet since December 2009 pending the decision.
He is wanted in the US over a conviction for unlawful sex with a 13-year-old girl.
The Swiss Justice Minister said the “measures of restriction on his liberty have been lifted.”“
Justice Denied.
I await the celebration parties in Hollywood and among liberals.
178 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Jul 12, 2010 5:34:50am |
Whew! That was close… almost overslept the garbage trucks…
180 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Jul 12, 2010 5:37:23am |
Oh, holy hell.
Congress is back.
181 | Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light) Mon, Jul 12, 2010 5:37:30am |
re: #176 MandyManners
I “made” you bring it up? How? I held a gun to your head?
You pressed the point. Yes they are BREAKING THE F*CKING LAW!!!
I will make a point of mentioning that at every further opportunity in the course of any discussion of ILLEGAL immigration.
182 | Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light) Mon, Jul 12, 2010 5:38:21am |
re: #177 Ericus58
Swiss authorities reject US extradition of Polanski
[Link: news.bbc.co.uk…]
“Authorities in Switzerland have decided not to extradite film director Roman Polanski to the US to face sentencing for a case dating back to 1977.
Polanski, 76, has been under house arrest in his Swiss chalet since December 2009 pending the decision.
He is wanted in the US over a conviction for unlawful sex with a 13-year-old girl.
The Swiss Justice Minister said the “measures of restriction on his liberty have been lifted.”“
Justice Denied.
I await the celebration parties in Hollywood and among liberals.
Boy, talk about illegal aliens…
183 | Mad Al-Jaffee Mon, Jul 12, 2010 5:38:54am |
re: #177 Ericus58
He’s an old man, he’s not dangerous anymore, AND he made Chinatown! Just let him live in peace!
/
186 | Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light) Mon, Jul 12, 2010 5:42:19am |
re: #183 Mad Al-Jaffee
He’s an old man, he’s not dangerous anymore, AND he made Chinatown! Just let him live in peace!
/
and it is entirely unlikely that he will be sodomizing any more thirteen-year-old girls, and heck, they don’teven make Quaaludes anymore
/
187 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Jul 12, 2010 5:45:55am |
Gosh, it would be terrible to be under house arrest in my Swiss Chalet.
188 | Ericus58 Mon, Jul 12, 2010 5:47:17am |
See, this is where I have a meltdown on this issue.
How many in the Entertainment industry decry crimes against children in the world…. but if it involves one of their own - oh, the glib defensive remarks and moral waffling begins.
Crimes against children deserve harsh punishment.
I don’t care who is involved either - political persuasion, religious or social background. Scum preying bastards.
190 | Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light) Mon, Jul 12, 2010 5:47:58am |
re: #187 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Gosh, it would be terrible to be under house arrest in my Swiss Chalet.
Especially if the nearest thirteen-year-old lived in the next village, and the pharmacy that sells bootleg Mexican Quaaludes was even farther away…
191 | Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light) Mon, Jul 12, 2010 5:52:41am |
There was the lame excuse that Polanski fled the USA because he feared the authorities, based on his experiences in the Eastern Bloc.
Of course, one has to ask, why did he flee to America then if he feared the authorities there?
192 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Jul 12, 2010 5:54:03am |
193 | Ericus58 Mon, Jul 12, 2010 5:54:05am |
There was a case several years back in Texas.
A karate instructor kidnapped a boy and went on a several state travel run and molested the boy during his run.
He was caught and sent back to Texas. As he was led - smiling at the TV news crew taping his return - the group passed by a wall mounted phone where upon a man standing there turned and put a gun against the instructor heads and shot Him once. The smiling offender dropped like a sack of potato’s.
It was the boy’s father.
I can understand his actions. I don’t support his actions, but I understand his mindset.
194 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Jul 12, 2010 5:56:57am |
re: #193 Ericus58
Those Texans and their prisoner transfers…
195 | Ericus58 Mon, Jul 12, 2010 5:58:01am |
re: #194 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Those Texans and their prisoner transfers…
They didn’t use Con-Air….
199 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Jul 12, 2010 6:01:58am |
Typos and misspellings aside; I’ve noticed that I frequently use ellipses (…) and parentheses (for asides and whatnot) in my writing . I wonder what an analyst would say about that?
200 | Ericus58 Mon, Jul 12, 2010 6:02:00am |
re: #196 MandyManners
What happened to the dad?
He was acquitted on temporary insanity defense by a jury.
The video has one of the LEO’s (County Sheriff?) exclaim right after the shooting the dad’s name in a comment that was emotional and sad. He was known to them.
201 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Jul 12, 2010 6:02:39am |
re: #195 Ericus58
They didn’t use Con-Air…
Well, they didn’t get Mr. Ruby where he was s’posed to be either.
202 | Targetpractice Mon, Jul 12, 2010 6:02:41am |
re: #191 ralphieboy
There was the lame excuse that Polanski fled the USA because he feared the authorities, based on his experiences in the Eastern Bloc.
Of course, one has to ask, why did he flee to America then if he feared the authorities there?
According to the arguments I kept hearing, the reason he fled was because the judge and DA were looking to railroad his ass, throwing out the plea bargain agreement to probation only and instead jail him and then deport him. Of course, who was making this claim? That’s right: His lawyer.
As for the coming celebrations amongst the Hollywood crowd, expect to hear this over and over again: “She’s already forgiven him!” So long as you flee the country and pay off the victims to forgive you later, drugging and raping 13-yr old girls is A-Ok with the folks in Hollywood.
208 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Jul 12, 2010 6:06:48am |
re: #207 MandyManners
Haven’t seen him in a while.
209 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Jul 12, 2010 6:07:34am |
Really. Can’t Congress take a few more weeks off?
210 | Bubblehead II Mon, Jul 12, 2010 6:08:12am |
211 | rwdflynavy Mon, Jul 12, 2010 6:08:43am |
re: #181 ralphieboy
You pressed the point. Yes they are BREAKING THE F*CKING LAW!!!
I will make a point of mentioning that at every further opportunity in the course of any discussion of ILLEGAL immigration.
Great! Thanks.
212 | Targetpractice Mon, Jul 12, 2010 6:12:14am |
re: #209 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Really. Can’t Congress take a few more weeks off?
Hell, let them take the rest of the year off. They’ve done enough damage already.
213 | Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light) Mon, Jul 12, 2010 6:12:47am |
216 | Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light) Mon, Jul 12, 2010 6:16:16am |
re: #202 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
According to the arguments I kept hearing, the reason he fled was because the judge and DA were looking to railroad his ass, throwing out the plea bargain agreement to probation only and instead jail him and then deport him. Of course, who was making this claim? That’s right: His lawyer.
As for the coming celebrations amongst the Hollywood crowd, expect to hear this over and over again: “She’s already forgiven him!” So long as you flee the country and pay off the victims to forgive you later, drugging and raping 13-yr old girls is A-Ok with the folks in Hollywood.
Just remember, Hollywood, if it can happen to Roman Polanski, it can happen to you:
When the came for the paedophile sodomizers, I said nothing because I only sodomized adults.
When they came for the prescription drug abusers I said nothing, because I had a doctor who got me everything legally.
And when they came for me, there was nobody left, so I had to flee to Switzerland…
217 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Jul 12, 2010 6:19:59am |
re: #214 MandyManners
Good! Thanks. He’s a nice guy. I had lunch with him once.
He’s almost my age, looks 20 years younger than me tho.
I hate him.
218 | thedopefishlives Mon, Jul 12, 2010 6:20:36am |
re: #180 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Oh, holy hell.
Congress is back.
Prepare for a new age of suffering and destruction!
222 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Jul 12, 2010 6:29:03am |
227 | iceweasel Mon, Jul 12, 2010 6:31:57am |
re: #221 Matt Hedges
Yep.
“…`moderate Muslims’ in London warn the government: `I’m a peaceful fellow myself, but I can’t speak for my excitable friends. Nice little G7 advanced Western democracy you got here. Shame if anything were to happen to it.’”
-Mark Steyn
Mark Steyn, genocide apologist:
I’ll merely note the manner in which Steyn dismisses the possibility of mass genocide of Muslims in Europe as a final solution to the Islamist problem. It “won’t accomplish much.” And America would be “changed beyond recognition.” More than it was by dropping nukes on Japan? More than by authorizing torture and indefinitely suspending habeas corpus? Nah - Steyn is fine with all that. But he draws the line at a mass genocide of Muslims. Why? It might hurt us and “won’t accomplish much.” Damn.
Troll alert.
233 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Jul 12, 2010 6:37:43am |
re: #226 Matt Hedges
So, if you’re on a ledge and a spider happens to be there; you don’t notice that the sky is blue or think of riding fences?
234 | Political Atheist Mon, Jul 12, 2010 6:37:48am |
re: #232 MandyManners
Heh.All we need is a reverse ctrl-f function. Hide by the selected criteria.. Rather than find. Just a teeny addition to the Tools.
236 | thedopefishlives Mon, Jul 12, 2010 6:40:05am |
238 | Authoritarian F*ckpuddles Mon, Jul 12, 2010 6:42:04am |
re: #60 ryannon
In the end, that’s what everyone wants: a little fucking affection, dammit!
Is that so hard for people to understand?
That seems like a place we can make progress from. You should have no problem understanding the following either then :
Nobody wants an end to this drama more than me. But please, ask Bagua how he can possibly hope to have civil relations with someone he maintains is a psychopath and a sociopath? How can he possibly pretend to be the one seeking peace while doing that? Ask him why it is that he refuses to apologise to iceweasel and retract the disgusting slurs that he has repeatedly made against her?
His refusal to do that is what is stopping the possibility of peace here - it doesn’t take a genius to see that.
If he won’t retract, I guess the only other solution is avoidance. I’ve told him many times what he needs to do, and I’m still waiting. But the offer is still there.
240 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Jul 12, 2010 6:42:19am |
re: #235 Matt Hedges
Where does it say it’s paraphrased. Looks like a direct quote from a book.
241 | Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light) Mon, Jul 12, 2010 6:43:48am |
re: #221 Matt Hedges
Yep.
“…`moderate Muslims’ in London warn the government: `I’m a peaceful fellow myself, but I can’t speak for my excitable friends. Nice little G7 advanced Western democracy you got here. Shame if anything were to happen to it.’”
-Mark Steyn
A lot of folks will insist that there cannot be any distinction between Islam and Islamism, that Islam is a political religion and all True Believers are by definition jihadists and supports of Sharia.
I find it funny that those who interpret and define the Koran this way are either mullahs or militant anti-Islamists…
243 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Jul 12, 2010 6:45:49am |
re: #235 Matt Hedges
It seems as everyone who has ever showed up here and immediately got into a fight with someone did not have a long shelf life.
Slow down. You may have important things to say.
245 | iceweasel Mon, Jul 12, 2010 6:47:03am |
re: #240 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Where does it say it’s paraphrased. Looks like a direct quote from a book.
It is a direct quote, FBV. Thanks.
Someone has been here before. I will be extremely apologetic and welcoming should I be wrong, I promise. Just a heads up.
248 | garhighway Mon, Jul 12, 2010 6:49:21am |
Way OT: I just got back from a presentation by a corporate economist for a Fortune 500 company that I cannot name. He was presenting a series of scenarios based on bull, bear and consensus views of the US and world economies through 2015.
The highlights of the consensus view, which he thinks is what happens absent weird monetary policy (significant tightening) or some other unforeseen shock:
> 14 million new jobs created between now and end of 2014 (but that only gets the unemployment rate to 6.5%by 2014)
> Inflation and interest rates remain low throughout
> Federal deficit to decline from 10% of GDP to 7% by 2014 (driven by increased tax revenues from economic recovery and lapsing of Bush tax cuts)
> Personal savings rate increases to 5.2% by 2014
I wouldn’t have gotten any of this from reading the papers. There, all you get is doom and gloom.
At any rate, I thought you all might be interested. Most of the stuff we all get to read is from political economists with an ax to grind. This guy is a pro making predictions based on what his data and experience (and a model with 10,000+ equations for the US economy) and doing so to advise his employer, so he is pretty highly motivated to be right.
249 | Authoritarian F*ckpuddles Mon, Jul 12, 2010 6:49:26am |
re: #235 Matt Hedges
Well, Iceweasel deserves a massive `FAIL’ for quoting Andrew Sullivan, for starters.
And anyone else notice that in that supposed quote, 90% of it is paraphrased? Why, if Steyn were such a genocidal maniac spewing hatred, wouldn’t it be easier just to quote him in full?
Pretty sure Charles has had something to say about Steyn’s extremist views as well.
250 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Jul 12, 2010 6:50:58am |
re: #248 garhighway
Well, from his charts to God’s ears.
251 | Authoritarian F*ckpuddles Mon, Jul 12, 2010 6:51:09am |
re: #241 ralphieboy
A lot of folks will insist that there cannot be any distinction between Islam and Islamism, that Islam is a political religion and all True Believers are by definition jihadists and supports of Sharia.
I find it funny that those who interpret and define the Koran this way are either mullahs or militant anti-Islamists…
Yep. Maybe should come up with a term that embraces both lots - ‘Team Apocalpyse’ or something.
252 | thedopefishlives Mon, Jul 12, 2010 6:52:11am |
re: #251 Jimmah
Yep. Maybe should come up with a term that embraces both lots - ‘Team Apocalpyse’ or something.
Bringing about the end of the world, one angry rambling screed at a time.
253 | Killgore Trout Mon, Jul 12, 2010 6:53:36am |
re: #248 garhighway
At any rate, I thought you all might be interested. Most of the stuff we all get to read is from political economists with an ax to grind. This guy is a pro making predictions based on what his data and experience (and a model with 10,000+ equations for the US economy) and doing so to advise his employer, so he is pretty highly motivated to be right.
Agreed. There is a big difference between what real economists and pundits have to say about the economy. It’s really complicated stuff and unfortunately the MSM does a lousy job of reporting on economic issues.
254 | garhighway Mon, Jul 12, 2010 6:53:53am |
re: #250 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Well, from his charts to God’s ears.
It was interesting. He says that corporate America is sitting on a huge pile of cash that will finance their recovery. Housing starts will recover some, but won’t get anywhere near their highest levels in the last cycle. And China’s GDP will grow by more $$ than ours. That will be the first time someone outgrew the US in absolute terms since we surpassed GBR in the 1800’s.
255 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Jul 12, 2010 6:54:26am |
re: #245 iceweasel
Brand new Lizards generally have to take a few days to learn how the quote, reply, link functions work.
Ones that have been banned more than once, then caught should know better.
256 | Political Atheist Mon, Jul 12, 2010 6:54:52am |
I would have bet I’d never ever see this headline.
Shameless page pimping, yet who would have thought the NRA would be too moderate for the GOP?!?
257 | iceweasel Mon, Jul 12, 2010 6:55:13am |
re: #249 Jimmah
Pretty sure Charles has had something to say about Steyn’s extremist views as well.
Uh-huh. The douchebag who also recently revealed Charles’s private email.
I so TOTALLY believe that an ordinary person would register here to promote Steyn!1! In the morning! And start off on LGF by attacking libs and promoting Muslim hate!
Whatever. Obvious troll is obvious. Get a clue, people.
259 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Jul 12, 2010 6:56:32am |
re: #255 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Brand new Lizards generally have to take a few days to learn how the quote, reply, link functions work.
Ones that have been banned more than once, then caught should know better.
I’ve also seen folks who snuck back in obviously ask, “How does this reply thing work”…
Better just to take a while and fake it, but not mention it, and not use it too quickly.
260 | thedopefishlives Mon, Jul 12, 2010 6:56:48am |
re: #257 iceweasel
Uh-huh. The douchebag who also recently revealed Charles’s private email.
Okay, I’ll admit that’s news to me. Not Cool (tm).
261 | Bubblehead II Mon, Jul 12, 2010 6:56:56am |
L8R Gators. Time to finish getting ready for w*rk.
263 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Jul 12, 2010 6:58:34am |
re: #262 Matt Hedges
So, the portions highlighted are not direct quotes from his writing?
265 | Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light) Mon, Jul 12, 2010 6:59:25am |
re: #251 Jimmah
Yep. Maybe should come up with a term that embraces both lots - ‘Team Apocalpyse’ or something.
These are often the same folks who will tell you that Judaism and Zionism are identical. “Team Apocalypse” does seem to fit. As does “Team Bonehead”
268 | reine.de.tout Mon, Jul 12, 2010 7:00:08am |
re: #253 Killgore Trout
Agreed. There is a big difference between what real economists and pundits have to say about the economy. It’s really complicated stuff and unfortunately the MSM does a lousy job of reporting on economic issues.
MSM does a lousy job of reporting on any complicated issue, particularly when they try to speak for the experts, and try to interpret what has been said (rather than reporting what was said).
269 | iceweasel Mon, Jul 12, 2010 7:00:47am |
re: #263 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
So, the portions highlighted are not direct quotes from his writing?
Bingo, FBV. Busted.
270 | Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light) Mon, Jul 12, 2010 7:01:42am |
re: #264 MandyManners
Are they Primaitists? Will they try to institute the Orangutaria law and force us all to hang from branches and cover our women in furry coats?
272 | rwdflynavy Mon, Jul 12, 2010 7:02:53am |
re: #246 MandyManners
The changes are good but, are hardly sufficient. What about a woman who dated a man for a month and he became abusive? She can’t get an RO?
ROs are worthless. I recommend she get a gun instead.
273 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Jul 12, 2010 7:03:05am |
re: #268 reine.de.tout
MSM does a lousy job of reporting on any complicated issue, particularly when they try to speak for the experts, and try to interpret what has been said (rather than reporting what was said).
You’ve gotta admit; the MSM needs to boil the news down for idiots.
Unfortunately, not everyone is an idiot. The non-idiots suffer.
275 | rwdflynavy Mon, Jul 12, 2010 7:03:44am |
re: #271 Matt Hedges
How old is this Iceweasel character? Middle-school age or higher?
Dude, FBV gave you some good advice. You are on a quick downward spiral. Slow down.
276 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Jul 12, 2010 7:04:13am |
re: #271 Matt Hedges
Dude. I might agree with you on things you say; but, I’m not going to read you. You’re an unfriendly sort who just wants to fight.
278 | Authoritarian F*ckpuddles Mon, Jul 12, 2010 7:05:12am |
re: #257 iceweasel
Uh-huh. The douchebag who also recently revealed Charles’s private email.
I so TOTALLY believe that an ordinary person would register here to promote Steyn!1! In the morning! And start off on LGF by attacking libs and promoting Muslim hate!
Whatever. Obvious troll is obvious. Get a clue, people.
Yep - it’s sooooo obvious. He’s openly lying about what he knows about Steyn’s views.
281 | Authoritarian F*ckpuddles Mon, Jul 12, 2010 7:06:11am |
I’m out too - have a good one folks :)
286 | iceweasel Mon, Jul 12, 2010 7:09:42am |
re: #278 Jimmah
Yep - it’s sooo obvious. He’s openly lying about what he knows about Steyn’s views.
Every. Time.
And it’s always the same people who want to welcome it. Always the same people who want to defend it. Always the same people who like it all the more— if it jumps right in and attacks libs and hates on muslims. And especially if it will pick a fight right away with someone they don’t like! Cos that’s so totally how new people act! If they were unfairly attacked!
Not including FBV, dopefish, and others who will, y’know, take a look.
Some peeps might want to question why they’re so eager to take the word of a brand new person over someone who’s been here for a while, that’s all.
288 | Mad Al-Jaffee Mon, Jul 12, 2010 7:10:47am |
Some folks at Dummycratic Underground react to the Polanksi news:
Good for the Swiss
The prosecution of this ancient demeanor is senseless.
The issue is whether there is any reason to continue this obsessive persecution. The Swiss say no, and I say good for them.
I’m glad he won’t have to serve time in one of America’s wretched prisons.
There are lots of good things about the US. It’s vengeful criminal justice and disgraceful penal systems aren’t among them.
291 | reine.de.tout Mon, Jul 12, 2010 7:14:44am |
re: #288 Mad Al-Jaffee
Some folks at Dummycratic Underground react to the Polanksi news:
Good for the Swiss
The prosecution of this ancient demeanor is senseless.The issue is whether there is any reason to continue this obsessive persecution. The Swiss say no, and I say good for them.
I’m glad he won’t have to serve time in one of America’s wretched prisons.
There are lots of good things about the US. It’s vengeful criminal justice and disgraceful penal systems aren’t among them.
I’m speechless.
Substitute “Roman Catholic Priest” for “Roman Polanski”, and what would the reaction be?
I’m not suggesting priests should get away with it, I am very disgusted by the Church’s tepid response to pedophile priests. I’m just as disgusted by these folks’ reaction to the Polanski news.
293 | Mad Al-Jaffee Mon, Jul 12, 2010 7:24:33am |
295 | Ericus58 Mon, Jul 12, 2010 7:26:31am |
I’ll take Mark Steyn over Andrew Sullivan - every single time.
296 | lawhawk Mon, Jul 12, 2010 7:26:41am |
re: #288 Mad Al-Jaffee
Unbelievable. The guy was accused of raping a 13 year old. Child rape. Statutory rape. And he fled the country rather than face justice in California. Finally, there was a chance that justice could be served in the US - both for the rape charges and for his fleeing of the country to avoid justice. Now, the Swiss have decided otherwise.
Nice.
298 | Mad Al-Jaffee Mon, Jul 12, 2010 7:30:21am |
re: #296 lawhawk
Unbelievable. The guy was accused of raping a 13 year old. Child rape. Statutory rape. And he fled the country rather than face justice in California. Finally, there was a chance that justice could be served in the US - both for the rape charges and for his fleeing of the country to avoid justice. Now, the Swiss have decided otherwise.
Nice.
And meanwhile, Lindsey Lohan’s going to jail. Where’s the justice?!
301 | Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light) Mon, Jul 12, 2010 7:33:49am |
re: #291 reine.de.tout
I’m speechless.
Substitute “Roman Catholic Priest” for “Roman Polanski”, and what would the reaction be?
I’m not suggesting priests should get away with it, I am very disgusted by the Church’s tepid response to pedophile priests. I’m just as disgusted by these folks’ reaction to the Polanski news.
Is that why they call it the Roman Catholic Church?
302 | Mad Al-Jaffee Mon, Jul 12, 2010 7:35:36am |
303 | darthstar Mon, Jul 12, 2010 7:39:02am |
304 | NJDhockeyfan Mon, Jul 12, 2010 7:41:46am |
305 | darthstar Mon, Jul 12, 2010 7:42:20am |
re: #296 lawhawk
Unbelievable. The guy was accused of raping a 13 year old. Child rape. Statutory rape. And he fled the country rather than face justice in California. Finally, there was a chance that justice could be served in the US - both for the rape charges and for his fleeing of the country to avoid justice. Now, the Swiss have decided otherwise.
Nice.
Actually, he confessed in 1979. Just heard on NPR that he’d struck a plea with the DA and the Judge wouldn’t honor it, which is why he ran. Switzerland is saying that the details over sentencing weren’t released, so they’re deeming him a free man. Not that I agree with it, mind you.
309 | Mad Al-Jaffee Mon, Jul 12, 2010 7:47:12am |
re: #307 MandyManners
Ooh. Tag-teamed on the rating button. I’m wounded.
Is that what the kids, etc.
311 | garhighway Mon, Jul 12, 2010 7:53:07am |
re: #268 reine.de.tout
MSM does a lousy job of reporting on any complicated issue, particularly when they try to speak for the experts, and try to interpret what has been said (rather than reporting what was said).
Plus they usually need conflicting views to portray an issue, so you end up with two guys with axes to grind. Better to find the mainstream view and explain it, but then you don’t have conflict.
312 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Jul 12, 2010 7:56:05am |
re: #297 NJDhockeyfan
Good morning!
I just axed about you an hour or so ago. Glad you’re amongst the breathing.
313 | garhighway Mon, Jul 12, 2010 7:56:32am |
re: #308 MandyManners
The court is not obligated to “honor” any deal if it believes it’s not in the inteterst of justice.
Exactly right. In every plea deal I have ever seen, the defendant is reminded that he has bargained for a prosecutor’s recommendation, and the judge is free to impose whatever sentence he or she sees fit, within the confines of the law. And then he has to say that he understands that, on the record.
315 | NJDhockeyfan Mon, Jul 12, 2010 7:57:09am |
re: #306 MandyManners
If you don’t mind sharing, what was wrong with you?
I was at a grocery store in Tennessee and within 4 minutes I passed out. Apparently I have a big blood clot in my head and the doctors have no idea what caused it. They have to wait till the middle of September to check my brain again and see what caused it.
320 | NJDhockeyfan Mon, Jul 12, 2010 7:58:30am |
re: #312 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I just axed about you an hour or so ago. Glad you’re amongst the breathing.
Thanks FBV. Most everyone here has been very nice to me since I came back. LGF lizards are the best.
321 | Mad Al-Jaffee Mon, Jul 12, 2010 7:58:57am |
322 | darthstar Mon, Jul 12, 2010 8:01:39am |
Israeli intelligence taking a hit from IDF report on Mavi Marmara
Jpost:
No plan B, not aborting/delaying when they saw people armed with clubs on the decks willing to resist…
There’s a paragraph on a slug taken from a soldier’s knee that didn’t come from an Israeli gun, though, so that should negate any mistakes the commandos made in the eyes of many.
Still, it’s surprising that the internal investigation wasn’t all glowing praise - honestly, I was expecting a Bush-admin style whitewash of the whole affair. Good for them.
323 | NJDhockeyfan Mon, Jul 12, 2010 8:01:51am |
re: #319 MandyManners
Oh, wow. On blood-thinners?
I take two pills called Levetiracetam every day which is supped to keep the problem from repeating. I have no idea what it is. I just do what I’m told.
324 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Jul 12, 2010 8:03:26am |
Don’t get all stupid and not do what you are told on this.
326 | Mad Al-Jaffee Mon, Jul 12, 2010 8:06:58am |
327 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Jul 12, 2010 8:07:32am |
GOOD NEWS!
Niece is back on Murikan soil from Afganistan. The whole family breathed a sigh of relief yesterday.
She was a convoy driver.
Scared the shit out of us every day she was gone.
328 | NJDhockeyfan Mon, Jul 12, 2010 8:09:22am |
329 | Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut Mon, Jul 12, 2010 8:10:06am |
re: #323 NJDhockeyfan
Remember that if you feel uncomfortable at all with the care you’re getting, to seek a second opinion. Blood clots in the brain are nothing to be fucked around with. Waiting until mid-September seems weird to me. Also, Levetiracetam is a pretty powerful anti-convulsant epileptic medication not a blood-thinner per se, with some serious side effects.
If you’re happy with your doctor and the care you’re getting ignore me, but just remember that there is nothing wrong with seeking a second opinion.
330 | NJDhockeyfan Mon, Jul 12, 2010 8:11:39am |
BTW…my friend and his son stopped by yesterday. His son is going back to Israel in 3 weeks and will be joining the IDF. He’s been in Israel for the past year training.
331 | NJDhockeyfan Mon, Jul 12, 2010 8:13:30am |
re: #329 Obdicut
Remember that if you feel uncomfortable at all with the care you’re getting, to seek a second opinion. Blood clots in the brain are nothing to be fucked around with. Waiting until mid-September seems weird to me. Also, Levetiracetam is a pretty powerful anti-convulsant epileptic medication not a blood-thinner per se, with some serious side effects.
If you’re happy with your doctor and the care you’re getting ignore me, but just remember that there is nothing wrong with seeking a second opinion.
Thank you. My wife is a nurse and she knows exactly what is going on. I am letting her take care of that because I have no idea what I have or not have.
332 | reine.de.tout Mon, Jul 12, 2010 8:13:52am |
re: #327 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
GOOD NEWS!
Niece is back on Murikan soil from Afganistan. The whole family breathed a sigh of relief yesterday.
She was a convoy driver.
Scared the shit out of us every day she was gone.
Glad to hear this! Afghanistan is a dangerous place to be. One of my HS friends had a son there, he just got back, as well. She was on cloud nine …
NJD - so sorry to hear of your troubles!
Prayers and good wishes for you.
333 | lawhawk Mon, Jul 12, 2010 8:13:58am |
re: #322 darthstar
The Israelis take their military ops quite seriously. In fact, it’s when the reports aren’t sufficiently harsh that the public in Israel and the military raise hackles. They want to know what went wrong so they can avoid the mistakes in the future.
Each one of these kinds of ops is a teaching scenario for future commandos. It goes to the ethos of the Israeli military and how they have to be on top of things all the time.
334 | Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut Mon, Jul 12, 2010 8:14:21am |
re: #331 NJDhockeyfan
That’s a good plan. I hope it works out for the best, that you escape any side effects, and that you make a full recovery and get treatment that prevents it every from happening again.
335 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Jul 12, 2010 8:14:49am |
re: #329 Obdicut
He lives near one of the best medical facilities in the world.
Probably not going there tho… there’s a doctor in Kroger now…
/
336 | Charles Johnson Mon, Jul 12, 2010 8:14:59am |
Matt Hedges is using a proxy IP address, which is specifically prohibited in the registration terms. Not to mention the blatant trolling. This is almost certainly a previously banned idiot, and is now banned again.
339 | darthstar Mon, Jul 12, 2010 8:16:13am |
re: #336 Charles
Matt Hedges is using a proxy IP address, which is specifically prohibited in the registration terms. Not to mention the blatant trolling. This is almost certainly a previously banned idiot, and is now banned again.
Who is Matt Hedges? Benson &’s butt?
340 | NJDhockeyfan Mon, Jul 12, 2010 8:16:27am |
re: #334 Obdicut
That’s a good plan. I hope it works out for the best, that you escape any side effects, and that you make a full recovery and get treatment that prevents it every from happening again.
They did an angiogram two Fridays ago and I have too much blood for them to see what the problem is. I have to go back in Sept for another one.
341 | Charles Johnson Mon, Jul 12, 2010 8:16:56am |
So let me get something else straight — it doesn’t bother anyone that Mark Steyn revealed a private email from me, for no good reason except to help Pamela Geller smear me?
342 | Mad Al-Jaffee Mon, Jul 12, 2010 8:17:02am |
re: #331 NJDhockeyfan
Thank you. My wife is a nurse and she knows exactly what is going on. I am letting her take care of that because I have no idea what I have or not have.
That’s good, but you should still talk to your doctor about the medication. Every time I’ve been prescribed a drug (something that hasn’t happened in years, knock on wood) I ask the doctor to describe how it works in layman’s terms.
343 | Killgore Trout Mon, Jul 12, 2010 8:17:17am |
Deal speculation drives BP shares further off lows
Speculation that BP will be sold in parts or a whole gave a further lift to the embattled oil giant’s shares Monday as the company said that the cost of cleaning up the Gulf of Mexico oil spill reached $3.5 billion.
….
Meanwhile, the U.K. government has hinted it may allow a bid for BP.“As I understand, there is no immediate takeover planned. In the event that there was [an attempt] the areas where the government [can step in] are very narrow unless it is a matter of national security,” said Business Secretary Vince Cable to the U.K. daily, CityAM. “BP is a strong company with a strong cash flow. If there was a takeover attempt, we would look at it but our powers are restricted.”
The asset sale speculation comes as BP said the cost of the response to the oil escape has reached $3.5 billion. That tab includes the cost of the spill response, containment, relief well drilling, grants to the Gulf states, claims paid, and federal costs.
Analysts have said the final BP tab could be as much as $70 billion.
344 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Jul 12, 2010 8:17:35am |
re: #340 NJDhockeyfan
They did an angiogram two Fridays ago and I have too much blood for them to see what the problem is. I have to go back in Sept for another one.
345 | NJDhockeyfan Mon, Jul 12, 2010 8:18:20am |
re: #341 Charles
So let me get something else straight — it doesn’t bother anyone that Mark Steyn revealed a private email from me, for no good reason except to help Pamela Geller smear me?
I’ve been out but that sounds like a really shitty thing to do. What an asshole.
346 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Jul 12, 2010 8:19:20am |
re: #341 Charles
Sorry… shifted to gaze pretty quick… didn’t follow.
347 | Walter L. Newton Mon, Jul 12, 2010 8:19:38am |
re: #291 reine.de.tout
I’m speechless.
Substitute “Roman Catholic Priest” for “Roman Polanski”, and what would the reaction be?
I’m not suggesting priests should get away with it, I am very disgusted by the Church’s tepid response to pedophile priests. I’m just as disgusted by these folks’ reaction to the Polanski news.
Well, it seem not everyone is disgusted.
348 | darthstar Mon, Jul 12, 2010 8:20:26am |
Crap…time to get dressed and go to work…later all.
349 | NJDhockeyfan Mon, Jul 12, 2010 8:20:47am |
350 | Walter L. Newton Mon, Jul 12, 2010 8:22:10am |
re: #341 Charles
So let me get something else straight — it doesn’t bother anyone that Mark Steyn revealed a private email from me, for no good reason except to help Pamela Geller smear me?
Are you talking to ALL OF US, or just Matt?
No, it’s not cool that Steyn revealed you private email. But the disgust or lack of disgust may have to do with lack of knowledge. This is the first time I’ve seen the point made that he did this.
Not cool.
351 | Charles Johnson Mon, Jul 12, 2010 8:23:42am |
Also on Mark Steyn — please note that when he revealed my private email he also said very clearly that he has no problem with making alliances with fascist groups like the Vlaams Belang. That should tell you everything you need to know.
Steyn is one of the so-called “intellectuals” who plays fast and loose with statistics, to give anti-Muslim bigotry a veneer of respectability.
352 | Ebetty Mon, Jul 12, 2010 8:25:38am |
re: #337 Ebetty
pimf …. good morning to all. & especially to @NJDhockeyfan
353 | Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut Mon, Jul 12, 2010 8:26:07am |
re: #340 NJDhockeyfan
That makes more sense. Your wife has a lot better idea— and motive— for taking care of you than I do. Glad you’ve got her.
354 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Jul 12, 2010 8:26:13am |
Somebody stole my entire morning. Later.
355 | NJDhockeyfan Mon, Jul 12, 2010 8:26:41am |
re: #332 reine.de.tout
NJD - so sorry to hear of your troubles!
Prayers and good wishes for you.
Thank you. I will heal and be better than before.
356 | laZardo Mon, Jul 12, 2010 8:27:35am |
Forget Chuck Norris facts, here’s Dick Cheney facts.
/also g’devening.
357 | Mad Al-Jaffee Mon, Jul 12, 2010 8:28:09am |
re: #355 NJDhockeyfan
Thank you. I will heal and be better than before.
What doesn’t kill you can only make you stronger.
358 | iceweasel Mon, Jul 12, 2010 8:32:17am |
re: #341 Charles
So let me get something else straight — it doesn’t bother anyone that Mark Steyn revealed a private email from me, for no good reason except to help Pamela Geller smear me?
Oh, it bothered some of us.
359 | NJDhockeyfan Mon, Jul 12, 2010 8:32:51am |
re: #354 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Somebody stole my entire morning. Later.
Bastards! /
Have a great day!
360 | Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut Mon, Jul 12, 2010 8:33:40am |
re: #351 Charles
I don’t understand the stakes that some writers and bloggers play at; they seem to regard everything as an apocalyptic confrontation, meaning that even obvious violations of taboos— revealing a private email to do something other than correct a falsehood, calling for violence against other people, accusations of traitorous intent— seems to be acceptable.
It’s baffling, as baffling as the stalker blog or any other sort of obsession. Hyperbole rules the day, and those who are unwilling to engage in it are usually demonized for that very reason.
361 | iceweasel Mon, Jul 12, 2010 8:36:35am |
re: #360 Obdicut
I don’t understand the stakes that some writers and bloggers play at; they seem to regard everything as an apocalyptic confrontation, meaning that even obvious violations of taboos— revealing a private email to do something other than correct a falsehood, calling for violence against other people, accusations of traitorous intent— seems to be acceptable.
It’s baffling, as baffling as the stalker blog or any other sort of obsession. Hyperbole rules the day, and those who are unwilling to engage in it are usually demonized for that very reason.
Steyn is a genocidal fuckwit and an opportunistic craven bastard. Always was. IMO.
362 | NJDhockeyfan Mon, Jul 12, 2010 8:37:10am |
Anne Frank’s Biography Published as Graphic Novel
A graphic novel version of Anne Frank’s biography was released in the Netherlands.
The 160-page book, launched last Friday, uses text and illustrations to tell Anne’s story and make connections between her life and historical events during the period.
According to Anne Frank House Museum spokeswoman Annemarie Bekker, the Amsterdam museum wants to use the book to make Anne’s story more available to teenagers from age 14.
“Not everyone has read Anne Frank’s diary,” she said in a statement to CNN. “The mission of the museum is to make the life story of Anne Frank accessible to as large an audience as possible, especially the younger generations.”
The biography was written by Sid Jacobson and illustrated by Ernest Colon, both Americans. They also co-created the best-selling graphic novel “The 9/11 Commission Report.”
Publisher Hill & Wang plans to release the book in the United States later this month and in Britain in the fall, with translations in German, Italian and French also planned.
363 | Mad Al-Jaffee Mon, Jul 12, 2010 8:39:13am |
364 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Jul 12, 2010 8:41:08am |
re: #356 laZardo
When Dick Cheney has a heart attack, no one in DC dies for the next 24 hours. Death is back home in the ninth ward p*ssing himself.
heh
365 | laZardo Mon, Jul 12, 2010 8:41:32am |
re: #362 NJDhockeyfan
The biography was written by Sid Jacobson and illustrated by Ernest Colon, both Americans. They also co-created the best-selling graphic novel “The 9/11 Commission Report.”
PUSHING THE CONSPIRACY TO THE NAIVE YOOTH!
/ wait for it.
366 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Jul 12, 2010 8:42:40am |
re: #363 Mad Al-Jaffee
Another LeBron casualty.
367 | abolitionist Mon, Jul 12, 2010 8:48:07am |
Critics: US too low-key on Islamic radicalism talk
WASHINGTON – The Obama administration’s recent move to drop rhetorical references to Islamic radicalism is drawing fire in a new report warning the decision ignores the role religion can play in motivating terrorists.
Several prominent counterterror experts are challenging the administration’s shift in its recently unveiled National Security Strategy, saying the terror threat should be defined in order to fight it.
[snip]
368 | thedopefishlives Mon, Jul 12, 2010 8:49:45am |
re: #341 Charles
So let me get something else straight — it doesn’t bother anyone that Mark Steyn revealed a private email from me, for no good reason except to help Pamela Geller smear me?
It bothered me. Privacy is a big thing in my neck of the woods. More so when talking about completely unhinged nutjobs like the shrieking harpy.
369 | iceweasel Mon, Jul 12, 2010 8:50:31am |
I couldn’t have hoped for a better demonstration of the AM Wingnut Wave than the way those people were willing to embrace their newest bestest pal Matt Hedges— even after I called him a troll, gave you the freakin links to Mark Steyn exposing Charles’s email, and pointed out he’s a genocidal anti-muslim bigot.
Some of you just loved him anyway.
Cheers.
370 | NJDhockeyfan Mon, Jul 12, 2010 8:50:40am |
Hezbollah Has List Of Israeli Targets - Report
A senior Hezbollah official said Sunday he has a list of Israeli targets to hit in the event of a war, The Associated Press reported.
Hezbollah commander Nabil Quaouk said the Lebanese Shia movement was on “high alert,” following Israel’s recent release of maps and aerial photographs allegedly revealing Hezbollah’s expanding presence in southern Lebanon.
“Let the Israeli leaders know that the Resistance also has a bank of targets” the Lebanese news site Ya Libnan quoted Quaouk as saying.
Israel’s declassification of information which apparently shows Hezbollah’s military capabilities to attack Israel fueled speculation that the government is trying to garner public support for a future war.
The Jerusalem Post, an English-language Israeli newspaper, reported Wednesday that the Israeli military views Hezbollah’s potential to infiltrate Israel as “the primary threat.”
In a recent report obtained by French news wire Agence France-Presse, UN chief Ban Ki-Moon warned that “a resumption of hostilities” between Israel and Lebanon could lead to a “devastating” war, following Israel’s April allegations of a Syrian arms transfers to the movement.
371 | Walter L. Newton Mon, Jul 12, 2010 8:51:50am |
re: #369 iceweasel
I couldn’t have hoped for a better demonstration of the AM Wingnut Wave than the way those people were willing to embrace their newest bestest pal Matt Hedges— even after I called him a troll, gave you the freakin links to Mark Steyn exposing Charles’s email, and pointed out he’s a genocidal anti-muslim bigot.
Some of you just loved him anyway.
Cheers.
Who loves him?
372 | Ericus58 Mon, Jul 12, 2010 8:53:19am |
373 | thedopefishlives Mon, Jul 12, 2010 8:53:23am |
re: #369 iceweasel
Honestly, Ice, I didn’t see anyone speaking out in his defense. I saw a few people telling him to tone it down because he “could” have something useful to say, though.
374 | lawhawk Mon, Jul 12, 2010 8:53:29am |
re: #370 NJDhockeyfan
Hizbullah’s list of targets is pretty much the same as it’s always been. Try to hit major population centers inside Israel with as many casualties as possible. Hit major infrastructure and the more Israelis who die, the better. That’s the same as it’s always been.
Right now, they’re posturing because they’ve been exposed once again regrouping and rearming, just as critics have been warning for years. Israel is within its sovereign rights to defend itself from Hizbullah, and if Hizbullah tries something - it could be considered a state-act of war, since Hizbullah is party of and to the Lebanese government. Far from being a moderating effect on Hizbullah, the terrorist group will pull the rest of the country into yet another devastating war.
375 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Mon, Jul 12, 2010 8:53:56am |
re: #367 abolitionist
Gosh. No wonder I stopped reading comments on news stories.
376 | Walter L. Newton Mon, Jul 12, 2010 8:55:20am |
re: #373 thedopefishlives
Honestly, Ice, I didn’t see anyone speaking out in his defense. I saw a few people telling him to tone it down because he “could” have something useful to say, though.
That was what I was asking in re: #371 Walter L. Newton.
I haven’t been on this thread all night, just got here in the last hour, didn’t read the whole thread, but glanced over it. I don’t see any outward glowing support for Steyn at all, except for “Matt” and his comments.
That’s why I asked “who?”
377 | Slap Mon, Jul 12, 2010 8:55:44am |
re: #293 Mad Al-Jaffee
Whoops, there’s my signal:
Progs!
(Saw them AT A CLUB after “The Missing Piece”. Stunning.)
378 | CarleeCork Mon, Jul 12, 2010 8:57:27am |
re: #160 MandyManners
Undocumented? Don’t you mean, “illegal”? They’re breaking the law.
So are they companies/individuals hiring them.
379 | Walter L. Newton Mon, Jul 12, 2010 9:00:00am |
re: #378 CarleeCork
So are they companies/individuals hiring them.
Correctomundo… illegal, companies and immigrants are both doing something illegal. And the companies should be held in much more accountability since they are companies operating in this country, legally, and should be well aware of the laws, and well aware of why they are breaking them.
380 | iceweasel Mon, Jul 12, 2010 9:00:53am |
re: #372 Ericus58
“AM Wingnut Wave”
This. Again.
Yeah. The really outrageous thing that happened here today was me using that term.
Bye for now.
381 | Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light) Mon, Jul 12, 2010 9:06:23am |
re: #378 CarleeCork
So are they companies/individuals hiring them.
and need we add that if all these companies just abeyed the law, there would no longer be any reason for these prople to come here seeking work?
just like adding that without drug users, the drug smugglers would have to find other markets
Hmmm
Just like saying that if food companies produced only healthy, low-calorie snacks at prohibitively high prices, then lard-butt, orally-fixated couch potatoes like me would not be so overweight?
/
382 | Slap Mon, Jul 12, 2010 9:08:19am |
re: #369 iceweasel
I dunno, Ice. I came in and noticed the deleted posts, was able to glean something from quotes within other posts.
What I see, sometimes — and, of course, feel free to attach whatever weight you believe my observation might have — is what I consider a sometimes surprising willingness to NOT leap to the troll conclusion right away. Bear in mind, my opinion is based on less than a year’s steady observation here. My own shit detector and lack of patience for idiots, particularly aggressive ones, leads me to leap to that conclusion the minute I see a configuration of words that has that particular trollaraoma. Depending on the specific nature of the comment, I’ll often downding reflexively; if things go south, I’ll report.
I find there to be a perhaps less-than-justified willingness to accept these folks at face value at first, which is in general an admirable trait. But I also suspect there might be some who extend the friendly hand in the “give ‘em enough rope” philosophy, to get them to expose the ugliest part of their body. (FZ reference.)
Most times, though, the Negatives have been excised by the time I start reading.
383 | abolitionist Mon, Jul 12, 2010 9:08:54am |
re: #375 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Gosh. No wonder I stopped reading comments on news stories.
I’m liking Google Chrome’s feature that automatically offers to translate a page that happens to be displayed in some other common language than English. The language list is fairly long. This helps broaden sources of both news and commentary.
384 | Walter L. Newton Mon, Jul 12, 2010 9:09:31am |
re: #381 ralphieboy
and need we add that if all these companies just abeyed the law, there would no longer be any reason for these prople to come here seeking work?
just like adding that without drug users, the drug smugglers would have to find other markets
Hmmm
Just like saying that if food companies produced only healthy, low-calorie snacks at prohibitively high prices, then lard-butt, orally-fixated couch potatoes like me would not be so overweight?
/
Nobody is forcing you or anyone else to put lard-butted foods into your mouth. Those who want to, will, and they will find companies that will accommodate their obsession with eating themselves into bad health. It’s legal.
385 | NJDhockeyfan Mon, Jul 12, 2010 9:10:27am |
‘Draw Muhammad’ artist placed on execution hit list; her online sites disappear
A radical Islamic leader has placed Molly Norris — the artist who helped spawn the recent “Everybody Draw Mohammad Day!” before distancing herself from the campaign — on an execution hit list, according to the New York Daily News.FBI officials alerted Norris to what they are treating as a “very serious threat,” according to the report.
The Islamic leader is Yemeni-American cleric Anwar al-Awlaki, a New Mexico-born 39-year-old who has been called arguably the highest-profile English-speaking supporter of violent jihad. Awlaki has been linked to the recent Times Square bombing attempt and reportedly inspired Texas’s Fort Hood massacre.
Awlaki reportedly says that Norris is a “prime target” for execution and that her “proper abode is hellfire.”
387 | Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light) Mon, Jul 12, 2010 9:13:03am |
re: #384 Walter L. Newton
Nobody is forcing you or anyone else to put lard-butted foods into your mouth. Those who want to, will, and they will find companies that will accommodate their obsession with eating themselves into bad health. It’s legal.
Nobody is forcing those companies to hire illegal aliens, except the fact that they are under fierce competition from other companies who do…
And who pay bribes to local officials to turn a blind eye and send contributions to politicians to make sure they undertake no serious measures to curb illegal immigration…
390 | garhighway Mon, Jul 12, 2010 9:16:12am |
A quick, fun read:
The Columbia Journalism Review covers the world of journalism (and especially business journalism) is an interesting way. This piece notes a WSJ editorial page piece that really exemplifies where the WSJ has gone in the last few years.
391 | Walter L. Newton Mon, Jul 12, 2010 9:16:35am |
re: #387 ralphieboy
Nobody is forcing those companies to hire illegal aliens, except the fact that they are under fierce competition from other companies who do…
And who pay bribes to local officials to turn a blind eye and send contributions to politicians to make sure they undertake no serious measures to curb illegal immigration…
You didn’t address my comment to your comment. Nobody is forcing anyone to do anything, but you seem to feel that lard-butted people are put at some disadvantage because certain foodstuff are available to them.
Evidently I agree with your feelings about companies and hiring of illegals aliens.
So, now do you think you can address the part of your comment 2 posts ago that deals with the food issue?
392 | Stonemason Mon, Jul 12, 2010 9:16:57am |
re: #387 ralphieboy
Anyone who has thier lawn mowed by an illegal, eats the lettuce picked, has thier bags carried, gets in the taxi, dishes washed, walls painted, block layed, stucco applied…the list is incredibly long. If citizens turn a blind eye to the problem, the politicians will too.
393 | Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light) Mon, Jul 12, 2010 9:18:29am |
re: #391 Walter L. Newton
You didn’t address my comment to your comment. Nobody is forcing anyone to do anything, but you seem to feel that lard-butted people are put at some disadvantage because certain foodstuff are available to them.
Evidently I agree with your feelings about companies and hiring of illegals aliens.
So, now do you think you can address the part of your comment 2 posts ago that deals with the food issue?
Yes, and I refer to original comment at the end of the section about being a lard-butt couch potato:
/
Don’t worry Walter, we’ll have plenty else to argue about down the thread…
394 | Walter L. Newton Mon, Jul 12, 2010 9:20:48am |
re: #393 ralphieboy
Yes, and I refer to original comment at the end of the section about being a lard-butt couch potato:
/
Don’t worry Walter, we’ll have plenty else to argue about down the thread…
Got it… you won’t.
395 | NJDhockeyfan Mon, Jul 12, 2010 9:26:03am |
IRAN: Judiciary official says woman to be stoned for husband’s murder, not just adultery
In a surprise announcement, a judiciary official in provincial Iran said a woman who had been convicted and sentenced to stoning for adultery had also been convicted of murder.
Sakineh Mohammadi Ashtiani, a 43-year-old mother of two in the Tabriz area, had been convicted of cheating on her late husband, apparently a murder victim, and sentenced to die by stoning, a ruling that is officially under review, according to Iranian judiciary officials.
But on Sunday, Malek Ejdar Sharifi, head of East Azerbaijan Province’s judiciary, told the official Islamic Republic News Agency (in Persian): “Sakineh Mohammadi Ashtiani has not been convicted of illicit sex only,” he said. “”She has been found guilty of numerous and extremely heavy offenses. She was sentenced to capital punishment [in 2006] in the criminal court in Tabriz, the center of the province, for committing murder, manslaughter and adultery.”
That’s fresh news. Up until Sharifi’s comments, Iranian officials and her lawyer said she was only convicted of adultery. Her lawyer, Mohammad Mostafai, said his client had been convicted of having a hand in her husband’s death but that the charge played no role in the death sentence against her, especially since her children did not want to pursue the murder charge against their mother. She was handed a 10-year sentence for the murder, her lawyer said.
“In the first place, the allegation was murder,” the lawyer told Babylon & Beyond. “She was accused of killing her husband, but as her children forgave her … she was pardoned and there was no more allegation against her. But to complicate the case, the court raised the issue of adultery.”
Sharifi declined to outline Ashtiani’s role in her husband’s death, saying it would be just too darn shocking for the public.
396 | harlequinade Mon, Jul 12, 2010 9:27:21am |
re: #31 ryannon
Take a DEEP breath: Underworld: Two Months Off
Possibly the worst video of all times and one of the most sublime tracks:
[Video]
UNDERWORLD! You have made my evening with this post (and yes, awful video)
:D
I have now joined the site, got the single, and am looking at what else I can give them money for :D
397 | rwdflynavy Mon, Jul 12, 2010 9:27:43am |
re: #356 laZardo
Forget Chuck Norris facts, here’s Dick Cheney facts.
/also g’devening.
After turning down an offer from Mafia Don, Cheney woke up with a horse head in his bed. He grabbed it, held it like a teddy bear, and went back to sleep.
Dick Cheney periodically goads Germany to invade Poland to prevent Europe from “going all sissy”.
Dick Cheney once killed a man with a paper clip. It took him three years, but eventually the man succumed to his wounds. He’s patient and evil, like a crocodile armed with a paper clip.
Dick Cheney used to write childrens’ stories under the pen name “H.P. Lovecraft.”
Cheney was shocked to find out that most people considered Sauron to be the bad guy in “The Lord Of The Rings” novels.
Awesomeness!
398 | Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light) Mon, Jul 12, 2010 9:28:15am |
re: #395 NJDhockeyfan
This is sounding like an Onion parody story gone terribly awry…as in it would be funny if it were not so deadly serious and offensive.
399 | Mad Al-Jaffee Mon, Jul 12, 2010 9:28:25am |
re: #395 NJDhockeyfan
IRAN: Judiciary official says woman to be stoned for husband’s murder, not just adultery
Also, after a great meal, she said “This piece of halibut is fit for Muhammed!”
400 | The Shadow Do Mon, Jul 12, 2010 9:58:13am |
re: #387 ralphieboy
Nobody is forcing those companies to hire illegal aliens, except the fact that they are under fierce competition from other companies who do…
And who pay bribes to local officials to turn a blind eye and send contributions to politicians to make sure they undertake no serious measures to curb illegal immigration…
Bribes are wholly unnecessary. All that an employer needs to establish hiring eligibility is a drivers license for ID. Dime a dozen. Ask Atta.
This is the travesty of it all and no one will tighten up on ID’s, at least not the libs.
401 | SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Jul 12, 2010 10:23:59am |
re: #177 Ericus58
Justice Denied.
I await the celebration parties in Hollywood and among liberals.
Most liberals who aren’t Hollywood people—ie, nearly all of us—feel exactly the same about Polanski as most conservatives. He is not a ‘liberal’ cause.
My life-long liberal Democrat father (an ex-cop) was dancing a jig…literally…when word came in that they’d arrested him.
402 | SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Jul 12, 2010 10:26:36am |
re: #193 Ericus58
There was a case several years back in Texas.
A karate instructor kidnapped a boy and went on a several state travel run and molested the boy during his run.
He was caught and sent back to Texas. As he was led - smiling at the TV news crew taping his return - the group passed by a wall mounted phone where upon a man standing there turned and put a gun against the instructor heads and shot Him once. The smiling offender dropped like a sack of potato’s.It was the boy’s father.
I can understand his actions. I don’t support his actions, but I understand his mindset.
Ellie Nessler did the same in California. Walked into the courtroom and shot the guy who raped her son.
My mother’s suggestion for sentencing was a hundred hours of community service.
We can’t let the law work like that, but it’s damn hard to condemn the killer in such a case.
403 | SanFranciscoZionist Mon, Jul 12, 2010 10:34:05am |
re: #264 MandyManners
I wouldn’t call those ‘monkey terrorists’. I would call those ‘monkey victims of terrorism’.
404 | goddamnedfrank Mon, Jul 12, 2010 10:42:18am |
re: #402 SanFranciscoZionist
Ellie Nessler did the same in California. Walked into the courtroom and shot the guy who raped her son.
My mother’s suggestion for sentencing was a hundred hours of community service.
We can’t let the law work like that, but it’s damn hard to condemn the killer in such a case.
Exactly, but what happens when you’re wrong:
Fairfield police have concluded that a 2-year-old girl was not molested by a neighbor her outraged father is accused of stabbing to death, a police official told The Associated Press Thursday.
Jonathon Edington, a 29-year-old attorney from Fairfield, is charged with killing Barry James on Aug. 28 after his wife told him of the abuse allegation, police said. Edington pleaded not guilty to the charge last week.
“We’re confident this 2-year-old was not molested,” said Capt. Gary MacNamara. “We are confident in our investigation that Mr. Edington did in fact kill Mr. James. We are as confident in our investigation that Mr. James did not molest the Edingtons’ daughter.”
MacNamara would not provide further details, but he did confirm that investigators interviewed the girl.
MacNamara also would not comment on whether the girl’s mother would be charged.
There’s a reason we’re supposed to have a rule of law.
406 | iceweasel Mon, Jul 12, 2010 1:13:11pm |
re: #382 Slap
I dunno, Ice. I came in and noticed the deleted posts, was able to glean something from quotes within other posts.
Slap, there were a couple of now deleted comments which weren’t quoted, the second or fourth or so comments he made, which made it abundantly clear that the Matt Hedges guy was a troll, with a special love for saying nasty things to liberals.
When I mention how “people loved him”, I was referring to the now banned troll Matt Hedges. That’s the point of the Wingnut Wave remark. People who hate liberals here so much and so enjoy creating an unpleasant atmosphere on the overnight thread for liberals that they’ll frantically welcome someone like Matt Hedges, an obvious troll, sockpuppet, and hater, and cheer him on. Even when it’s more than obvious that the guy hates Charles too.
That’s all. I don’t want to discuss it any more if that’s alright, I found it all quite upsetting.
407 | Authoritarian F*ckpuddles Mon, Jul 12, 2010 1:17:06pm |
408 | Authoritarian F*ckpuddles Mon, Jul 12, 2010 1:19:54pm |
re: #373 thedopefishlives
Honestly, Ice, I didn’t see anyone speaking out in his defense. I saw a few people telling him to tone it down because he “could” have something useful to say, though.
Oh please:
Busted.
409 | Mentis Fugit Mon, Jul 12, 2010 1:27:47pm |
re: #135 hellosnackbar
Incidentally the epitaph on Spike Milligan’s grave reads:
I told you I was ill!
Not quite; the church that managed the cemetery rejected the epitaph, so it reads “I told you I was ill” in Gaelic instead.
410 | iceweasel Mon, Jul 12, 2010 1:33:46pm |
re: #408 Jimmah
Oh please:
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com…]
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com…]
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com…]
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com…]
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com…]
Busted.
Coming soon, another remake of Memento: posters who forget what they have just read and written, and are doomed, doomed, to repeat it every day.
411 | Authoritarian F*ckpuddles Mon, Jul 12, 2010 1:52:26pm |
re: #371 Walter L. Newton
Who loves him?
Hey Walter - until you apologise to iceweasel for your disgusting remarks to her - I’d advise you not to address her again. She’s asked you the same before this.
412 | Gus Mon, Jul 12, 2010 2:04:22pm |
Pam Geller ≈ Robert Spencer ≈ Mark Steyn
Same horse, different color.
413 | iceweasel Mon, Jul 12, 2010 2:22:08pm |
re: #412 Gus 802
Pam Geller ≈ Robert Spencer ≈ Mark Steyn
Same horse, different color.
Same horse-shit. ;)
Yep.
(I consider Steyn more dangerous because he does so much to lend the bigotry a pseudo-intellectual veneer that Geller and Spencer can’t. )
414 | Gus Mon, Jul 12, 2010 2:27:05pm |
re: #413 iceweasel
Same horse-shit. ;)
Yep.
(I consider Steyn more dangerous because he does so much to lend the bigotry a pseudo-intellectual veneer that Geller and Spencer can’t. )
True that. And when they hear his faux-British accent milieu (I know he’s Canadian) that adds to the perception of intelligence.
415 | iceweasel Mon, Jul 12, 2010 2:31:07pm |
re: #414 Gus 802
True that. And when they hear his faux-British accent milieu (I know he’s Canadian) that adds to the perception of intelligence.
Plus he’s featured in major outlets. You go to Pammy’s site or Spenser’s, there is no excuse for not knowing who and what you’re dealing with. Steyn, on the other hand:
Since then, he has written for a wide range of publications, including the Jerusalem Post, The Orange County Register, Chicago Sun-Times, National Review, The New York Sun, The Australian, Macleans, Irish Times, National Post, The Atlantic Monthly, Western Standard and New Criterion.
Steyn’s website “SteynOnline” provides special commentary and access to many of his columns and other published work. He occasionally posts to the National Review Online group blog, The Corner.
Not to even mention radio and TV. I would seriously like to see this dirtbag exposed. IMO he does more damage than the other two.
The exposure of CJ’s email ought to have been a wakeup call to normal people. Steyn totally threw in with raving freaks like Geller and V-B. That’s who he is.
416 | Gus Mon, Jul 12, 2010 2:44:26pm |
re: #415 iceweasel
Not to even mention radio and TV. I would seriously like to see this dirtbag exposed. IMO he does more damage than the other two.
The exposure of CJ’s email ought to have been a wakeup call to normal people. Steyn totally threw in with raving freaks like Geller and V-B. That’s who he is.
People like Steyn are not cultural leaders, they are cultural critics. Like many of his ilk he cashed in on the post-911 anti-Muslim hysteria. While there are valid criticisms of certain aspects of Muslim culture he does not effectively create any change and serves mainly to entertain the already convinced.
He will not get many converts within the North American community let alone within the Middle Eastern Muslim community. In fact his somewhat volatile rhetoric has the reverse effect and only serves to further alienate the two divergent communities.
In general, he also speaks from arrogance since he always portrays Muslims as being always wrongs while painting the west as being always right. I believe this is called hubris.
417 | iceweasel Mon, Jul 12, 2010 2:59:08pm |
re: #416 Gus 802
Excellent. Yes. I’ll have more to say on it later; have to take off for a bit. I’ll think about it.
Later Gus, always a pleasure. Be well.
418 | Gus Mon, Jul 12, 2010 2:59:38pm |
re: #417 iceweasel
Excellent. Yes. I’ll have more to say on it later; have to take off for a bit. I’ll think about it.
Later Gus, always a pleasure. Be well.
OK, Ice. See you later!
419 | Authoritarian F*ckpuddles Mon, Jul 12, 2010 11:45:33pm |
re: #411 Jimmah
Hey Walter - until you apologise to iceweasel for your disgusting remarks to her - I’d advise you not to address her again. She’s asked you the same before this.
Downding from Bagua. Apparently Bagua is rather a fan of Walter’s disgusting, deleted comments. Just FYI.