From today’s demonstration at the hallowed ground of the abandoned Burlington Coat Factory building in lower Manhattan, the face of the anti-mosque movement.
Click to embiggen(Credit: Paul Gentile.)
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, Aug 22, 2010 3:32:44pm |
He was careful to spell stuff right… notice the penciled in letters?
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bratwurst Sun, Aug 22, 2010 3:32:47pm |
[insert your own “righteous gentile” joke here]
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Political Atheist Sun, Aug 22, 2010 3:33:54pm |
What a buffoon. Just imagine that trying to get a date.
*Dragon_Lady in room shudders*
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austin_blue Sun, Aug 22, 2010 3:34:08pm |
Nothing like a Confederate Swastika to show you are not a bigot.
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Killgore Trout Sun, Aug 22, 2010 3:34:50pm |
Click to embiggen
Clicking ensmallens.
Irony?
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webevintage Sun, Aug 22, 2010 3:36:17pm |
I’m just shaking my head.
I wonder if he is even from NYC?
I just saw this on Balloon Juice:
Black dude made the mistake of walking though the crowd….
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, Aug 22, 2010 3:37:07pm |
re: #4 austin_blue
The dude’s from Bayonne, NJ.
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Aceofwhat? Sun, Aug 22, 2010 3:37:09pm |
re: #4 austin_blue
Nothing like a Confederate Swastika to show you are not a bigot.
words, from my mouth, stolen
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theheat Sun, Aug 22, 2010 3:38:25pm |
I wonder if he braids the patriot beads in his own beard, or if his boyfriend does it for him.
//
The only thing that would make this better is if a tear was rolling down his face.
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Charles Johnson Sun, Aug 22, 2010 3:39:16pm |
re: #5 Killgore Trout
Heh. If you had a bigger window you’d see a bigger photo - 680 x 1024.
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Aceofwhat? Sun, Aug 22, 2010 3:39:34pm |
re: #8 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
The dude’s from Bayonne, NJ.
with apologies to lawhawk, it’s amazing how many different flavors of idiot hail from Jersey…
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Charles Johnson Sun, Aug 22, 2010 3:39:58pm |
You can almost read the tattoos on his knuckles at that resolution.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, Aug 22, 2010 3:41:06pm |
re: #7 webevintage
I had to make my computer silent… wife (the mean one is watching replay, pre-season football.)
Was that gigantic guy (not in the hardhat) making peace?
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the yankee Sun, Aug 22, 2010 3:41:55pm |
I don’t think he is stupid I think he is crazy!
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Killgore Trout Sun, Aug 22, 2010 3:42:15pm |
re: #7 webevintage
I’m just shaking my head.
I wonder if he is even from NYC?I just saw this on Balloon Juice:
[Video]Black dude made the mistake of walking though the crowd…
Wow. They even immediately realize it makes them look racist and it will end up on CNN.
“I bet he voted for Obama!”
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webevintage Sun, Aug 22, 2010 3:42:48pm |
re: #16 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I had to make my computer silent… wife (the mean one is watching replay, pre-season football.)
Was that gigantic guy (not in the hardhat) making peace?
I’m not sure…but I loved how the guy says “you motherfuckers don’t even know what I believe” to the crowd yelling at him.
(I do have to say that is a pretty white crowd there…kinda like a tea party rally)
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theheat Sun, Aug 22, 2010 3:43:05pm |
re: #14 Charles
I think he bites his fingernails. His cuticles look like crap.
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Jeff In Ohio Sun, Aug 22, 2010 3:43:39pm |
Maybe he was confused and thought it was bad poetry day.
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Aceofwhat? Sun, Aug 22, 2010 3:44:35pm |
re: #17 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I was kidding.
i figured. i shamelessly used your post to knock Jersey…it’s a bit of a reflex, i admit. i think it’s partially related to my Cleveland origins, sort of a “well at least i’m not from ___” thing.
gosh this couch is comfortable, doctor/
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Aug 22, 2010 3:44:48pm |
re: #4 austin_blue
Nothing like a Confederate Swastika to show you are not a bigot.
Point taken but I don’t see the Stars and Bars as equivalent to the Swastika. But this guy does require my Standing Answer to Neo-Confederates:
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Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut Sun, Aug 22, 2010 3:45:55pm |
That’s some thousand yard stare he’s got going on.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, Aug 22, 2010 3:45:56pm |
Well, at least this bigotry is in New York and y’all can’t blame us.
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Randall Gross Sun, Aug 22, 2010 3:46:14pm |
Now I’ve seen it all, a Neoconfederate who styles himself as a boondocks stooge…
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Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut Sun, Aug 22, 2010 3:46:47pm |
re: #28 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Who is ‘us’, sorry?
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Charles Johnson Sun, Aug 22, 2010 3:47:02pm |
Wow. This is really really bad.
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theheat Sun, Aug 22, 2010 3:47:32pm |
re: #27 Obdicut
Did I leave the iron plugged in? Oh crap…
//
Happens whenever I dress up and go anywhere.
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Killgore Trout Sun, Aug 22, 2010 3:48:04pm |
re: #7 webevintage
Can you make out what the the guy in the suit is telling him at about 2:50? I can’t make it out.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, Aug 22, 2010 3:48:36pm |
re: #28 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Oh… I thought the “y’all” would give away what I meant.
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Jeff In Ohio Sun, Aug 22, 2010 3:48:52pm |
re: #4 austin_blue
Hey man, he just celebrating his heritage. Oh…right..what you said.
When we were in Nashville, In. this summer for the wife’s reunion, I saw they have a store that sells only Confederate garb and knick knacks. Nashville, In. is a big destination for the weekend warrior bikers, and they love their Confederate doo-rags and coffe mugs. Anyway, I was getting ready to go in and see if they had any black folk for sale, but my better half suggested I shouldn’t…well, I think what she said was ‘Over my dead body.’
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, Aug 22, 2010 3:49:39pm |
re: #31 Charles
So is the big “Robert Barone” looking guy trying to make peace or trouble?
I can’t get the audio!
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ReamWorks SKG Sun, Aug 22, 2010 3:49:45pm |
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Gus Sun, Aug 22, 2010 3:50:14pm |
re: #7 webevintage
I’m just shaking my head.
I wonder if he is even from NYC?I just saw this on Balloon Juice:
[Video]Black dude made the mistake of walking though the crowd…
I thought the Park 51 opponents were saying that it wasn’t about race and or religion. That is to say that they were also claiming to welcome and have Muslims (although this man is not) amongst their ranks. Apparently not and anyone who was perceived as having any characteristics of appearing to be Muslim would be turned upon by an angry crowd at this protest.
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Randall Gross Sun, Aug 22, 2010 3:50:15pm |
re: #31 Charles
Just like the far right in Belgium chanting “nie mosqee!” over and over.
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Jeff In Ohio Sun, Aug 22, 2010 3:50:44pm |
re: #8 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
The dude’s from Bayonne, NJ.
Hey, I got arrested in Bayonne once. Good times!!
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Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut Sun, Aug 22, 2010 3:51:50pm |
re: #38 Gus 802
And they started shouting “Mohammed is a pig”, too.
But sure, they love moderate Muslims.
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windsagio Sun, Aug 22, 2010 3:52:57pm |
I’m very happy that I now know what his sign says!
And of course its a goddamn pun.
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Cato the Elder Sun, Aug 22, 2010 3:53:22pm |
This guy has better hair than Pam Geller, and his face is less wrinkly, too.
I’ll take him over her any day.
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Gus Sun, Aug 22, 2010 3:53:31pm |
re: #41 Obdicut
And they started shouting “Mohammed is a pig”, too.
But sure, they love moderate Muslims.
Bigots.
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reine.de.tout Sun, Aug 22, 2010 3:55:36pm |
re: #7 webevintage
I’m just shaking my head.
I wonder if he is even from NYC?I just saw this on Balloon Juice:
[Video]
Black dude made the mistake of walking though the crowd…
Whoa.
That was a really ugly incident.
My jaw is on the floor …
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reine.de.tout Sun, Aug 22, 2010 3:57:28pm |
re: #45 reine.de.tout
Whoa.
That was a really ugly incident.
My jaw is on the floor …
I say, on a thread that’s dead ‘cause the video became a thread of its own while I watched - goin’ upstairs …
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Dark_Falcon Sun, Aug 22, 2010 3:59:11pm |
And here’s another good answer to the Johnny Reb in Red:
The last verse is especially on point, as is the chorus:
So we’re springing to the call from the east and from the west,
Shouting the Battle Cry of Freedom!
And we’ll hurl the Rebel crew from the land we love the best,
Shouting the Battle Cry of Freedom!The Union Forever!
Hurrah, boys, hurrah!
Down with the traitors, and up with the Stars!
While we rall ‘round the flag boys, we rally once again,
Shouting the Battle Cry of Freedom!
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TedStriker Sun, Aug 22, 2010 4:01:54pm |
Mr. Dixie-flag-shirt-wearing, creepy-cross-face-tattoo-having xenophobe, you are a bigoted tool furthering the twisted goals of other bigoted tools, not to mean furthering the goals of the Islamist assholes who people like you say you’re against (and whom Iman Rauf has a track record of being against).
/to quote Lynyrd Skynyrd, this Southern man don’t need you around anyhow…
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elbruce Sun, Aug 22, 2010 4:16:55pm |
I agree with the gentleman in the photo that the “mosque-a-raid” is indeed over, but I would take that term to refer to the slanderous lies that the right have been spreading about it.
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TedStriker Sun, Aug 22, 2010 4:18:05pm |
re: #35 Jeff In Ohio
Hey man, he just celebrating his heritage. Oh…right..what you said.
When we were in Nashville, In. this summer for the wife’s reunion, I saw they have a store that sells only Confederate garb and knick knacks. Nashville, In. is a big destination for the weekend warrior bikers, and they love their Confederate doo-rags and coffe mugs. Anyway, I was getting ready to go in and see if they had any black folk for sale, but my better half suggested I shouldn’t…well, I think what she said was ‘Over my dead body.’
Ain’t that a little far north for Confederate “aficionados”?
/living in the “real” Nashville (in Tennessee)…
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Jeff In Ohio Sun, Aug 22, 2010 4:22:25pm |
re: #51 talon_262
Ain’t that a little far north for Confederate “aficionados”?
/living in the “real” Nashville (in Tennessee)…
Naw, if your going to project that bad ass ‘rebel spirit’ with weekend biking, a Confederate doo-rag is a vital accessory for the clueless and weak willed.
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mjm1374 Sun, Aug 22, 2010 4:36:06pm |
yet again, a little piece of my dies every time I see some moron like this trying to claim he is a real American, I begin to wonder if he is right and I am wrong.
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reidr Sun, Aug 22, 2010 4:44:30pm |
re: #38 Gus 802
I thought the Park 51 opponents were saying that it wasn’t about race and or religion. That is to say that they were also claiming to welcome and have Muslims (although this man is not) amongst their ranks. Apparently not and anyone who was perceived as having any characteristics of appearing to be Muslim would be turned upon by an angry crowd at this protest.
Well, for a good number of opponents, it clearly is about being proudly bigoted, and here they are. I would hope that the ones you’re referring to would be rightly horrified by this protest and would re-think their “but my feelings are hurt!” answer to polls.
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Red fish Sun, Aug 22, 2010 4:59:04pm |
This person is no more a representative of the anti-mosque group than any other person who was there. To post his photo and insinuate that everyone who believes that the mosque is planned for the wrong area is just like him is just plain wrong. Think for yourselves and don’t fall for this crap.
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Amory Blaine Sun, Aug 22, 2010 5:00:32pm |
There is no rag more vile than the confederate flag.
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Charles Johnson Sun, Aug 22, 2010 5:02:25pm |
re: #55 Red fish
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jaunte Sun, Aug 22, 2010 5:02:35pm |
re: #55 Red fish
Let me fix that.
Think for yourself and don’t fall for the anti-constitutionalist’s crap.
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Red fish Sun, Aug 22, 2010 5:07:20pm |
I stand by what I said.
Too many times people pick someone out of a crowd who is different and then label him as representative of that group. The other hundreds of people there probably looked a lot like you, but that wouldn’t make a “headline photo” would it?
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reidr Sun, Aug 22, 2010 5:08:56pm |
re: #60 Red fish
I stand by what I said.
Too many times people pick someone out of a crowd who is different and then label him as representative of that group. The other hundreds of people there probably looked a lot like you, but that wouldn’t make a “headline photo” would it?
Hey, you seen that new video going around? The one with the ugly, bigoted mob?
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Amory Blaine Sun, Aug 22, 2010 5:10:33pm |
re: #61 reidr
Hey, you seen that new video going around? The one with the ugly, bigoted mob?
That mob, is not representative of the anti-mosque mob…
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reidr Sun, Aug 22, 2010 5:12:46pm |
re: #62 Amory Blaine
That mob, is not representative of the anti-mosque mob…
How can you be so sure? And where do you draw the line? When do we start to be concerned about the amount of outright anti-muslim bigotry? Personally, I’m also concerned about the repressed bigotry, too.
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Amory Blaine Sun, Aug 22, 2010 5:13:16pm |
re: #55 Red fish
This person is no more a representative of the anti-mosque group than any other person who was there. To post his photo and insinuate that everyone who believes that the mosque is planned for the wrong area is just like him is just plain wrong. Think for yourselves and don’t fall for this crap.
Bigotry is more palatable when it wears a 3 piece suit?
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Amory Blaine Sun, Aug 22, 2010 5:13:42pm |
re: #63 reidr
How can you be so sure? And where do you draw the line? When do we start to be concerned about the amount of outright anti-muslim bigotry? Personally, I’m also concerned about the repressed bigotry, too.
I was being sarcastic.
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Charles Johnson Sun, Aug 22, 2010 5:14:34pm |
re: #60 Red fish
I stand by what I said.
Too many times people pick someone out of a crowd who is different and then label him as representative of that group. The other hundreds of people there probably looked a lot like you, but that wouldn’t make a “headline photo” would it?
Yeah. Here’s one that looks much better.
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reidr Sun, Aug 22, 2010 5:14:43pm |
re: #65 Amory Blaine
I was being sarcastic.
Sorry, that sounded serious and I haven’t pigeon-holed you yet….
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Mongo only pawn... in game of life. Sun, Aug 22, 2010 5:16:38pm |
By the looks of it, the masquerade never really ended, nor will it end, ink is permanent, with this dude. That picture is worth a thousand words.
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jaunte Sun, Aug 22, 2010 5:18:11pm |
re: #66 Charles
Yeah. Here’s one that looks much better.
Of course that one may not be representative of all the weapon-themed trailers at the event.
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HappyWarrior Sun, Aug 22, 2010 6:45:51pm |
Yep the mosque opponents aren’t bigots at all and we’re just a bunch of liberal hysterics for even suggesting a thing.
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MotorCityBadboy Sun, Aug 22, 2010 7:03:29pm |
Wow… and he has the nerve to show his tatooed face and the rebel flag in public? Who killed more americans and was a direct threat to the government of the United States, Muslims or the confederacy??
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HappyWarrior Sun, Aug 22, 2010 7:08:42pm |
re: #72 MotorCityBadboy
Wow… and he has the nerve to show his tatooed face and the rebel flag in public? Who killed more americans and was a direct threat to the government of the United States, Muslims or the confederacy??
Kinda funny isn’t it? The opponents of Park51 say it’s insensitive to the families of the 9-11 victims yet many these same people belittled people who found South Carolina flying the confederate flag insensitive.
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Sun, Aug 22, 2010 8:59:30pm |
Anyone remember when the wingnuts cheered when Coulter savaged 9-11 wives who questioned the party line? And now somehow it is all for the noble purpose of protecting the sensibilities of the victim’s families?
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Sun, Aug 22, 2010 9:02:09pm |
re: #55 Red fish
This person is no more a representative of the anti-mosque group than any other person who was there. To post his photo and insinuate that everyone who believes that the mosque is planned for the wrong area is just like him is just plain wrong. Think for yourselves and don’t fall for this crap.
Ohh I already came to the conclusion that the people getting outraged by this were mostly semi-literate, Fox indoctrinated, frightened, inbred, angry, rednecks some time ago.
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ClaudeMonet Sun, Aug 22, 2010 9:48:56pm |
re: #35 Jeff In Ohio
Hey man, he just celebrating his heritage. Oh…right..what you said.
When we were in Nashville, In. this summer for the wife’s reunion, I saw they have a store that sells only Confederate garb and knick knacks. Nashville, In. is a big destination for the weekend warrior bikers, and they love their Confederate doo-rags and coffe mugs. Anyway, I was getting ready to go in and see if they had any black folk for sale, but my better half suggested I shouldn’t…well, I think what she said was ‘Over my dead body.’
My friend Tony, who describes himself as “mostly black, part white, one-eighth Cherokee, and who the f*** knows what else” and who claims his Cherokee name translates as “Dances Like White Man”, would probably do something like that. His wife (white) just shakes her head when he gets like this and says things like, “He’s nuts. That’s why we’ve been together for over 20 years.”
You should see the reaction of people who don’t either of us when we do our usual greeting, courtesy of Mel Brooks—
Me: Shvartzes!
Tony: Dey darker than we are!
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ClaudeMonet Sun, Aug 22, 2010 9:51:57pm |
re: #36 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
So is the big “Robert Barone” looking guy trying to make peace or trouble?
I can’t get the audio!
IMO he looks like a peace-keeping type, as in, “Don’t hassle him, it may be what he or someone wants”. If someone that size says, “Cool it”, I’m cooling it. The guy in the blue hardhat seemed to get the message; it’s amazing how often that happens when someone a foot taller and a foot wider than you delivers it.
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ClaudeMonet Sun, Aug 22, 2010 9:56:24pm |
re: #51 talon_262
Ain’t that a little far north for Confederate “aficionados”?
/living in the “real” Nashville (in Tennessee)…
Indiana was the state that came closest to a KKK takeover in the 1920s, and some of its rural areas are home to bigots as mean and vile as anything the actual South has.
IIRC (Jeff, please correct me if I’m wrong here), Nashville is an antiques wonderland, so perhaps antique thinking is also for sale all over there.
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elbruce Sun, Aug 22, 2010 11:30:49pm |
re: #75 LudwigVanQuixote
Anyone remember when the wingnuts cheered when Coulter savaged 9-11 wives who questioned the party line? And now somehow it is all for the noble purpose of protecting the sensibilities of the victim’s families?
As she put it, “nobody likes being lectured by a victim.”
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(I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Mon, Aug 23, 2010 5:06:37am |
Another flicker shot of Confederate Comrade:
[Link: www.flickr.com…]
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(I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Mon, Aug 23, 2010 5:25:52am |
Another few:
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I also love this one:
[Link: www.flickr.com…]
Another moment of hmmm:
[Link: www.flickr.com…]
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(I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Mon, Aug 23, 2010 5:28:23am |
Another: [Link: www.flickr.com…]
It’s really fascinating how in less than 24 hours after the event this coverage this available.
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(I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Mon, Aug 23, 2010 5:35:48am |
Even more:
[Link: www.flickr.com…]
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[Link: www.flickr.com…]
Another shot of the Marine Corps flag / rockets scene:
[Link: www.flickr.com…]
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Yashmak Mon, Aug 23, 2010 8:00:20am |
It never ceases to amaze me that people like this confederate shirt guy don’t realize that what they’re actually doing with their inflammatory/divisive displays, is strengthening the opposing side of the argument and weakening their own.
Of course, because I’m not opposed to the mosque/community center, I don’t really have a problem it. With any luck someone hit him with a beverage or frozen yogurt at some point.
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hellosnackbar Mon, Aug 23, 2010 9:19:04am |
Well this painted 21st century version of Custer certainly demonstrates the comic character of the protests.
It might interest you to know that a large anti-islamofascist demonstration
is to take place in the city of Bradford this Saturday.(UK)
The demo is from the EDL(English Defense League);and due to police requirements will be static(as opposed to a march).
The EDL has recently trimmed its membership;banning all people who have links with the BNP(very wise).
They have also refused ties with other fascist organisations such as Vlaams Belang.
There will also be a counter demonstration by members of the UAF(unite against fascism by left wing fascists such as the SWP(socialist workers party;
an old fashioned Trotskyist organisation)and of course Muslims(mostly of Pakistani origin).
The EDL demonstrators will be wearing a pig’s trotter on a string about their neck(c.f.crucifix against vampires)to lessen the threat of assault from Muslims.(this will not deter the infidels of the UAF of course).
A recent outrage was the daubing of “Islam will conquer all” on a war memorial;not to mention Islamic dickhead Anjem Choudary calling returning
Anglia Regiment soldiers murderers on their return to the UK.
Muslims are pretty silly indulging in such insult;as normally peaceful Brits
are aroused by such action.
There’s trouble ahead which will only result in peaceful Muslims suffering
for the behaviour of their mad co-religionists.
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Charles Johnson Mon, Aug 23, 2010 10:09:01am |
re: #87 hellosnackbar
You’re not seriously going to try to promote the EDL at my website, are you?
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hellosnackbar Mon, Aug 23, 2010 10:47:34am |
No not at all!I ‘ve tried to find what they stand for and who they are?
But the information is scanty.
I’m very circumspect about such organisations especially when information is lacking.
But I do know who the opposition are and they are old fashioned Trotskyists
and remnants of the movements like “militant tendency”who practically destroyed my country in the seventies.
Fortunately dear Maggie sorted them out to the point of almost total obscurity.
Perhaps you should follow what happens on Saturday Charles ;it may make for an interesting debate on an incident outside the US.
If you’re interested in my political stance I’m a “golden rule” liberal i.e conservative.
I admire the founding fathers(particularly Jefferson);and hope that dogma and faith based fascists suffer oblivion in the future.
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Pacific moderate Mon, Aug 23, 2010 10:49:14am |
I hadn’t realized that Custer fought for the Confederacy.
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califleftyb Mon, Aug 23, 2010 10:50:35am |
Meesque-a, Moosque-a, Mosque-ateer ! Mosque-a loon time now is here !
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hellosnackbar Mon, Aug 23, 2010 11:06:59am |
re: #90 Pacific moderate
I was merely commenting on his appearance; as far as I know Custer predated
the formation of the confederacy;but I could be wrong.
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