Our afternoon musical break: Patty Griffin performing “Heavenly Day,” a love song to her dog (she says). What an amazing voice.
This is from the “Three Girls and Their Buddy” tour, featuring Emmylou Harris, Patty Griffin, Shawn Colvin and Buddy Miller.
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What, me worry? Thu, Jan 6, 2011 2:18:10pm |
I’m really a cat person, although an animal lover in general. Anyway, we currently have 6 cats, 1 dog, lots of fish and Mr. Toad who shows up in the outside cat dish from time to time.
The pup, however, seems to have fended off a burglar the week before Christmas. We found evidence of a break-in, but nothing serious happened. I know it was her. She can be pretty ferocious.
I wish I could sing, I would have written a song for her. Instead we gave her lots of treats.
Patty Griffin has a heavenly voice, anyway :)
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freetoken Thu, Jan 6, 2011 2:18:11pm |
Hehe… get this:
Koch Industries has filed suit in Utah seeking to learn who’s behind a media hoax claiming the Wichita-based company was shifting its financial commitments for climate change research and advocacy to more environmentally friendly groups.
Koch issued a statement saying it filed the federal lawsuit in response to identity theft, theft of intellectual property and impersonation that extends beyond the boundaries of free speech.
The lawsuit against unknown defendants stems from a bogus website and fake news release issued last month. The company says the web-hosting companies that registered the domain name and hosted the bogus website are located in Utah.
The companies in question say they have complied with the subpoenas.
A little background: a while back someone put up a spoof Koch website that made Koch look like it was trying to amend its ways of astroturfing anti-environmental groups.
Now, the real Koch is upset, so they’re going to sue whatever person (college student?) was behind creating the fake website.
One could, I suppose, claim that Koch is only trying to protect their trademark and name. Yet, when one realizes the extent to which the Koch brothers have used shadowy connections (astroturfing, deception) to further their own agenda, including undermining national policy on environmental issues, the stunning hypocrisy stands out.
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Walter L. Newton Thu, Jan 6, 2011 2:21:52pm |
re: #2 freetoken
Hehe… get this:
A little background: a while back someone put up a spoof Koch website that made Koch look like it was trying to amend its ways of astroturfing anti-environmental groups.
Now, the real Koch is upset, so they’re going to sue whatever person (college student?) was behind creating the fake website.
One could, I suppose, claim that Koch is only trying to protect their trademark and name. Yet, when one realizes the extent to which the Koch brothers have used shadowy connections (astroturfing, deception) to further their own agenda, including undermining national policy on environmental issues, the stunning hypocrisy stands out.
Nope… their stunning business acumen stands out.
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Slap Thu, Jan 6, 2011 2:25:35pm |
What a tour — three of the sweetest singing voices in creation, sharing the stage.
Thanks for the post!
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freetoken Thu, Jan 6, 2011 2:26:27pm |
The Tea Partying Party has partying problems?
The 112th Congress might have to start all over again
Here’s something John Boehner might feel the need to cry about: Just two days into the 112th Congress, there’s a chance that the House might have to do all of its voting—including the roll call to elect a new Speaker—all over again.Per Roll Call’s Anna Palmer, House GOP leaders learned today that two of its members—Texas Rep. Pete Sessions and freshman Mike Fitzpatrick of Pennsylvania—weren’t on the House floor yesterday during the official swearing-in ceremony.
According to the Morning Call’s Colby Itkowitz, the two here hanging out at a shindig celebrating Fitzpatrick’s first day in Congress when they looked up and noticed on TV that the oath was being administered.
The two reportedly raised their hands and joined along with their comrades, but under House rules, that doesn’t count. Still, Sessions and Fitzpatrick continued to vote on the floor, even though they weren’t technically sworn in, and that could invalidate every single vote the House has taken since yesterday.
Republicans, led by Rules Committee chairman David Dreier, are now looking to draft a rule to allow the pair’s TV oath to count, but it would have to be approved by unanimous consent, and there’s no sign Democrats, who are looking to slow down next week’s planned vote on a repeal of President Obama’s health care plan, are willing to play ball.
Perhaps the GOP could use a group - Partying Anonymous?
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Usually refered to as anyways Thu, Jan 6, 2011 2:28:35pm |
The Conservative Constitution of the United States
We, the Real Americans, in order to form a more God-Fearing Union, establish Justice as we see it, Defeat Health-Care Reform, and Preserve and Protect our Property, our Guns and our Right Not to Pay Taxes, do ordain and establish this Conservative Constitution for the United States of Real America.
Article I. Congress shall have only the powers literally, specifically and expressly granted herein, and no others. That means definitely, without question, absolutely, no regulation of the Health Insurance or Financial Services industries.
The Senate of the United States shall be composed of two Senators from each State, elected not directly by the People, but by other people whom the People have elected to better represent the People.
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Usually refered to as anyways Thu, Jan 6, 2011 2:42:34pm |
WikiLeaks - China hiding military build-up
Australia’s intelligence agencies believe China is hiding the extent of a massive military build-up that goes beyond national defence and threatens regional stability, the latest WikiLeaks cables show.
A strategic assessment by the agencies found that China’s military spending for 2006 was $90 billion - double the $45 billion budget publicly announced by Beijing, Fairfax newspapers report.
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Alexzander Thu, Jan 6, 2011 2:44:41pm |
Any opinions on Daley at WH Chief of Staff? (Sorry if its been discussed already).
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Gus Thu, Jan 6, 2011 2:48:24pm |
re: #9 Alexzander
Any opinions on Daley at WH Chief of Staff? (Sorry if its been discussed already).
You can read through this.
LGF Pages - Will Obama anger the left again by hiring Bill Daley?
Excerpt:
“The Democratic Party — my lifelong political home — has a critical decision to make,” Daley wrote in 2009, one year before the devastating, for Democrats, 2010 midterms. “Either we plot a more moderate, centrist course or risk electoral disaster not just in the upcoming midterms but in many elections to come.” — William M. Daley
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blueraven Thu, Jan 6, 2011 2:49:11pm |
A beautiful rendition of “Mary” with Patti Griffin and Natalie Maines
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Political Atheist Thu, Jan 6, 2011 2:49:26pm |
re: #8 ozbloke
Damn. New advanced fighter/fighter-bomber, new carrier killer medium range ballistic missiles, and rumors of a first strike policy with nuclear weapons in a “crisis”. China’s policy is not regional or defensive. It’s going global and on the offense.
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Gus Thu, Jan 6, 2011 2:51:46pm |
re: #2 freetoken
Hehe… get this:
A little background: a while back someone put up a spoof Koch website that made Koch look like it was trying to amend its ways of astroturfing anti-environmental groups.
Now, the real Koch is upset, so they’re going to sue whatever person (college student?) was behind creating the fake website.
One could, I suppose, claim that Koch is only trying to protect their trademark and name. Yet, when one realizes the extent to which the Koch brothers have used shadowy connections (astroturfing, deception) to further their own agenda, including undermining national policy on environmental issues, the stunning hypocrisy stands out.
1998: J.P. Morgan advised Koch Industries Inc. as well as Isaac, Moises, Alberto, and Manuel Saba in the acquisition of their worldwide polyester production business of Hoechst A.G. to form KoSa. J.P. Morgan was also bookrunner of the USD1,085 billion loan for the acquisition.
Good cop. Bad cop.
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Usually refered to as anyways Thu, Jan 6, 2011 2:53:20pm |
re: #12 Rightwingconspirator
Damn. New advanced fighter/fighter-bomber, new carrier killer medium range ballistic missiles, and rumors of a first strike policy with nuclear weapons in a “crisis”. China’s policy is not regional or defensive. It’s going global and on the offense.
I don’t think there is any doubt that they will become a major player over the next decade. They will use there economic status to their advantage, who can blame them, any country in their position would do the same.
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Gus Thu, Jan 6, 2011 2:58:47pm |
About JPMorgan Retirement Plan Services
JPMorgan Retirement Plan Services provides bundled defined contribution services and administers investment options to almost 200 corporate clients, representing more than 1.2 million retirement plan participants. As the eighth-largest defined contribution recordkeeper ranked by assets, June 30 2006 (source: Pensions & Investments DC Record Keepers, November 27 2006), the business administers plan assets of $98 billion as of Jan. 31, 2007. CCA Strategies, a newly acquired business unit within JPMorgan Retirement Plan Services, provides a full suite of benefits consulting and actuarial services. Through this direct offering and alliances with other best-in-class providers, JPMorgan Retirement Plan Services integrates services for defined contribution, defined benefit, deferred compensation and stock-based compensation plans. Headquartered in Kansas City, MO, JPMorgan Retirement Plan Services employs more than 1,100 people and is a subsidiary of JPMorgan Chase. Its client list includes top-tier firms such as Goodyear, Hitachi America Ltd, Koch Industries and Pearson Inc.
JPMorgan Chase: Office of Environmental Affairs
The Office of Environmental Affairs reports to William Daley, Head of Corporate Responsibility and a member of the Operating Committee and is overseen by the Public Responsibility Committee of the Board. In addition, a firm-wide Environmental Oversight Committee made up of key business leaders is responsible for guiding the Office’s initiatives.
He’s also “current Midwest chairman of J.P. Morgan Chase.”
Any thoughts on incoming Chief of Staff for the Obama White House, William Daley, and his connection with JP Morgan whose client list includes the dreaded Koch Industries?
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BishopX Thu, Jan 6, 2011 3:01:09pm |
re: #12 Rightwingconspirator
They’re still less than a generation from having been occupied by foreign powers. I think they’re goal is that if they have to fight a war, they are going to do it elsewhere. Which is a logical position given the time and effort they’ve put into developing their infrastructure over the past 50 years.
The problem is they also have this thing about using muscular foreign policy to secure resources which is going to make things get really, really dicey.
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researchok Thu, Jan 6, 2011 3:01:50pm |
re: #15 Gus 802
About JPMorgan Retirement Plan Services
JPMorgan Chase: Office of Environmental Affairs
He’s also “current Midwest chairman of J.P. Morgan Chase.”
Any thoughts on incoming Chief of Staff for the Obama White House, William Daley, and his connection with JP Morgan whose client list includes the dreaded Koch Industries?
Only that this won’t make the news.
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BishopX Thu, Jan 6, 2011 3:02:08pm |
re: #15 Gus 802
I’m less worried about his ties to Koch than I am about his ties to J.P Morgan. We don’t need more bankers near the Whitehouse.
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Political Atheist Thu, Jan 6, 2011 3:02:53pm |
re: #14 ozbloke
Quite so. My biggest concern is about issues like the Spratly islands far more than Taiwan. Or an attempt to push the US Navy out of local yet international waters. That submarine stunt is exactly like the ways the US Navy sub fleet would intimidate the Soviets back in the day. Put a bunch of warships with opposing territorial policies in close proximity-skirmishes and accidents often follow.
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Gus Thu, Jan 6, 2011 3:03:02pm |
re: #9 Alexzander
Any opinions on Daley at WH Chief of Staff? (Sorry if its been discussed already).
It really hasn’t been discussed. I’m sure this has the potential for causing a great deal of discomfort with many folks. He’s some more Daley fun:
William Daley: Positive and negative reaction
NEGATIVE
Sen. Tom Harkin (D-Iowa)
“I believe that they just tilt too far towards that Wall Street crowd, and they’re going to keep moving in that direction, and that’s not where I think we need to go.”
Justin Ruben, executive director of MoveOn.org
“With Wall Street reporting record profits while middle class Americans continue to struggle in a deep recession, the announcement that William Daley, who has close ties to the Big Banks and Big Business, will now lead the White House staff is troubling and sends the wrong message to the American people.”
Adam Green of the Progressive Change Campaign.
“This was a real mistake by the White House. Bill Daley consistently urges the Democratic Party to pursue a corporate agenda that alienates both Independent and Democratic voters. If President Obama listens to that kind of political advice from Bill Daley, Democrats will suffer a disastrous 2012.”
Robert Weissman, president of Public Citizen
“Why in the world is President Barack Obama selecting as his chief of staff a person who comes from the very Wall Street that wrecked the economy and who is an ardent supporter of the job-offshoring, NAFTA-style trade agreements that have hollowed out the industrial heartland?”
Michelle Malkin
“Instead of distancing himself from the favor-trading Wall Street fat cats who have earned the ire of both anti-bailout tea party activists and anti-corporate liberals, Obama remains wedded, embedded and indebted to the worst kind.”
Ellen S. Miller, co-founder of the Sunlight Foundation
“As the chief of staff, he is the gatekeeper, and that means real power in Washington. Just about any way you look at it, it creates a huge potential for a conflict of interest.”
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Killgore Trout Thu, Jan 6, 2011 3:03:18pm |
re: #15 Gus 802
Any thoughts on incoming Chief of Staff for the Obama White House, William Daley, and his connection with JP Morgan whose client list includes the dreaded Koch Industries?
I don’t think it’s a problem. They hired a firm he worked for to manage their retirement program. I don’t think it’s a big deal.
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Gus Thu, Jan 6, 2011 3:04:51pm |
re: #21 Killgore Trout
I don’t think it’s a problem. They hired a firm he worked for to manage their retirement program. I don’t think it’s a big deal.
I don’t either. But, we typically see “guilt by association” with these bits of news. I do enjoy the double standard though. Especially considering his association with the US Chamber of Commerce. Etc., etc.
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Political Atheist Thu, Jan 6, 2011 3:04:59pm |
re: #21 Killgore Trout
The media keeps saying banker, banker. But there is a lot more to this guy than that. “Evil Banker” is becoming a meme for politics.
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Gus Thu, Jan 6, 2011 3:06:02pm |
re: #23 Rightwingconspirator
The media keeps saying banker, banker. But there is a lot more to this guy than that. “Evil Banker” is becoming a meme for politics.
Big banks! Chamber of Commerce! Eleventy!
//
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Walter L. Newton Thu, Jan 6, 2011 3:06:09pm |
re: #20 Gus 802
It really hasn’t been discussed. I’m sure this has the potential for causing a great deal of discomfort with many folks. He’s some more Daley fun:
And the answer is… say this along with me… Plutocrats and Kleptocrats … I knew you could!
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Gus Thu, Jan 6, 2011 3:06:47pm |
re: #25 Walter L. Newton
And the answer is… say this along with me… Plutocrats and Kleptocrats … I knew you could!
The revolving door is still turning. ;)
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garhighway Thu, Jan 6, 2011 3:06:57pm |
re: #17 researchok
Only that this won’t make the news.
Why would it? Are we are going to tar him with the entire JPM client list? That’s absurd on its face.
The guy’s a centrist. Most responsible posters here LIKE centrists, and spend a lot of time complaining about the extremists on both sides.
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Gus Thu, Jan 6, 2011 3:07:40pm |
re: #27 garhighway
Why would it? Are we are going to tar him with the entire JPM client list? That’s absurd on its face.
The guy’s a centrist. Most responsible posters here LIKE centrists, and spend a lot of time complaining about the extremists on both sides.
OK. I’ll drop the bomb. It won’t “make the news” because he’s not a Republican.
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garhighway Thu, Jan 6, 2011 3:09:14pm |
re: #28 Gus 802
OK. I’ll drop the bomb. It won’t “make the news” because he’s not a Republican.
When did “centrist appointed to White House post” become bad news?
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Walter L. Newton Thu, Jan 6, 2011 3:09:35pm |
re: #26 Gus 802
The revolving door is still turning. ;)
You could search over and over on LGF for the last 3 or so years, and you will find my comments, over and over, pointing out the fact that barely NO POLITICIAN gets a seat of any sort in Washington DC unless they are already of a use to big money, or they learn how to play the game real fast and and put their name on the list of Plutocrats and Kleptocrats.
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Usually refered to as anyways Thu, Jan 6, 2011 3:09:54pm |
re: #19 Rightwingconspirator
Quite so. My biggest concern is about issues like the Spratly islands far more than Taiwan. Or an attempt to push the US Navy out of local yet international waters. That submarine stunt is exactly like the ways the US Navy sub fleet would intimidate the Soviets back in the day. Put a bunch of warships with opposing territorial policies in close proximity-skirmishes and accidents often follow.
This point by BishopX is relevent.
“The problem is they also have this thing about using muscular foreign policy to secure resources which is going to make things get really, really dicey.”
My concern about your post was China’s ability to put its submarine there without being noticed.
I’m waiting to see when they start investing more in the EU$.
The saving grace at the moment may be a weak EU economy.
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garhighway Thu, Jan 6, 2011 3:11:33pm |
re: #30 Walter L. Newton
You could search over and over on LGF for the last 3 or so years, and you will find my comments, over and over, pointing out the fact that barely NO POLITICIAN gets a seat of any sort in Washington DC unless they are already of a use to big money, or they learn how to play the game real fast and and put their name on the list of Plutocrats and Kleptocrats.
Would you say that having worked for “big money” ought to be disqualifying?
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Gus Thu, Jan 6, 2011 3:14:02pm |
re: #29 garhighway
When did “centrist appointed to White House post” become bad news?
It’s not bad news as I’ve already stated. But Obama spent a good part of last year harping on Chamber of Commerce and “big banks” and he goes ahead and hires a “big bank” honcho (JP Morgan Chase) and someone that not only gets a green light from the CoC but has done some work for the CoC. It’s purely a sign of a manipulative and hypocritical political system that Obama is not past engaging in. So 6 months later the Chamber of Commerce is suddenly OK?
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Walter L. Newton Thu, Jan 6, 2011 3:14:24pm |
re: #30 Walter L. Newton
You could search over and over on LGF for the last 3 or so years, and you will find my comments, over and over, pointing out the fact that barely NO POLITICIAN gets a seat of any sort in Washington DC unless they are already of a use to big money, or they learn how to play the game real fast and and put their name on the list of Plutocrats and Kleptocrats.
As an addendum to my comment above… but it’s partisan blindness that will keep all these crooks in power, because when it comes down to how Joe Public reacts to these machinations, it’s my Plutocrats and Kleptocrats are not as bad as your Plutocrats and Kleptocrats.
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Lidane Thu, Jan 6, 2011 3:15:13pm |
You just can’t make this stuff up:
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garhighway Thu, Jan 6, 2011 3:15:42pm |
re: #33 Gus 802
It’s not bad news as I’ve already stated. But Obama spent a good part of last year harping on Chamber of Commerce and “big banks” and he goes ahead and hires a “big bank” honcho (JP Morgan Chase) and someone that not only gets a green light from the CoC but has done some work for the CoC. It’s purely a sign of a manipulative and hypocritical political system that Obama is not past engaging in. So 6 months later the Chamber of Commerce is suddenly OK?
Could it be that he was complaining about something particular that the CoC was doing, not that all the people that worked there were evil?
Just a thought.
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Political Atheist Thu, Jan 6, 2011 3:15:42pm |
re: #31 ozbloke
The Navy wanted a new low frequency sonar to find these subs even in shallow waters. However it apparently kills whales big time. So a judge had limited testing.
Another point- The Russians may have shared “walker sub” technology. A spy had sold our best technology for quiet propellers on the subs. Suddenly the Russian subs got much harder to detect. I’d bet the Chinese have that technology.
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researchok Thu, Jan 6, 2011 3:16:56pm |
re: #27 garhighway
Why would it? Are we are going to tar him with the entire JPM client list? That’s absurd on its face.
The guy’s a centrist. Most responsible posters here LIKE centrists, and spend a lot of time complaining about the extremists on both sides.
You have a point- but political expediency trumps all.
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garhighway Thu, Jan 6, 2011 3:18:12pm |
re: #34 Walter L. Newton
As an addendum to my comment above… but it’s partisan blindness that will keep all these crooks in power, because when it comes down to how Joe Public reacts to these machinations, it’s my Plutocrats and Kleptocrats are not as bad as your Plutocrats and Kleptocrats.
Or we could want the smartest people we can get to do the jobs (which are shitty jobs in many ways), and it happens that some of those smart people have, at one time or another, been hired by a big company. Because big companies like hiring smart guys.
Or not.
I suppose we could just hire hobos and drunks: they have pretty pure pedigrees.
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Walter L. Newton Thu, Jan 6, 2011 3:20:35pm |
re: #39 garhighway
Or we could want the smartest people we can get to do the jobs (which are shitty jobs in many ways), and it happens that some of those smart people have, at one time or another, been hired by a big company. Because big companies like hiring smart guys.
Or not.
I suppose we could just hire hobos and drunks: they have pretty pure pedigrees.
And of course, let’s make believe you never read my comment. I was not talking about smart people or dumb people or hobo’s or drunks, I was talking about very well place, intelligent Plutocrats and Kleptocrats.
How’d you miss that? Could it be a partisan reason?
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Gus Thu, Jan 6, 2011 3:20:45pm |
re: #38 researchok
You have a point- but political expediency trumps all.
Much of the reason here is for the upcoming 2012 campaign. Daley was also “a member of Vice President Al Gore’s 2000 presidential campaign team.” It’s not so much a policy decision as it is pure politics.
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researchok Thu, Jan 6, 2011 3:22:03pm |
re: #41 Gus 802
Much of the reason here is for the upcoming 2012 campaign. Daley was also “a member of Vice President Al Gore’s 2000 presidential campaign team.” It’s not so much a policy decision as it is pure politics.
And pure politics will smooth over his support for the FTA.
And the unions are quiet.
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BishopX Thu, Jan 6, 2011 3:23:03pm |
re: #31 ozbloke
TBH china’s sovereign wealth fund may prove to be a saving grace. If they are heavily invested in potential conflict zones they are less likely to start a shooting war.
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researchok Thu, Jan 6, 2011 3:23:18pm |
re: #40 Walter L. Newton
And of course, let’s make believe you never read my comment. I was not talking about smart people or dumb people or hobo’s or drunks, I was talking about very well place, intelligent Plutocrats and Kleptocrats.
How’d you miss that? Could it be a partisan reason?
Oh yeah, you’re ready for France.
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Usually refered to as anyways Thu, Jan 6, 2011 3:23:35pm |
Does anyone know any background on this story, I hadn’t heard of it before?
State of War, by James Risen
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Gus Thu, Jan 6, 2011 3:24:18pm |
re: #42 researchok
And pure politics will smooth over his support for the FTA.
And the unions are quiet.
Of course. Daley was the go to guy for both NAFTA and the China FTA. Yet suddenly Richard Trumka (AFL-CIO) is at loss for words:
“The president is of course entitled to choose a chief of staff in whom he has complete confidence. Yet President Obama and his Administration will ultimately be judged by results — whether the economy recovers robustly and begins to generate good jobs on the scale needed to improve the lives of working people. The president needs a chief of staff who will reach out to diverse constituencies and make sure that the voices of ordinary Americans are heard in the White House.”
I tell ya’. Being an independent means you get to see the “humor” coming from all sides.
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Walter L. Newton Thu, Jan 6, 2011 3:25:33pm |
re: #44 researchok
Oh yeah, you’re ready for France.
Well, since I got laid off two days ago, there’s not much else I can do but sit back and enjoy the up coming trip… it’s paid for, saved and paid for it over the last few years, I may as well not stress over the job situation right now, or I will have wasted a ton of money.
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Gus Thu, Jan 6, 2011 3:25:36pm |
re: #46 Gus 802
Of course. Daley was the go to guy for both NAFTA and the China FTA. Yet suddenly Richard Trumka (AFL-CIO) is at loss for words:
I tell ya’. Being an independent means you get to see the “humor” coming from all sides.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Thu, Jan 6, 2011 3:26:50pm |
re: #35 Lidane
You just can’t make this stuff up:
eventually I saw His Figure, wreathed in twilight, standing atop a mountain
and His name was Luap Nor: The Goldbearer
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Walter L. Newton Thu, Jan 6, 2011 3:27:32pm |
re: #45 ozbloke
Does anyone know any background on this story, I hadn’t heard of it before?
State of War, by James Risen
Those were those funny, inside cover, last page, comic books adverts for “You Too Can Make An Atomic Bomb (and fool your friends)” products.
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Amory Blaine Thu, Jan 6, 2011 3:28:31pm |
Shit’s getting weird.
Thousands Of Dead Doves Fall From The Sky In Italy
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Gus Thu, Jan 6, 2011 3:28:43pm |
re: #48 Gus 802
china free trade agreement site:aflcio.org
Hard not to miss the second link pointing to McCain. Yet the China FTA was brought to you by Bill Clinton and William Daley.
The Democrats also have an 11th Commandment.
“Thou shalt not speak ill of any fellow Republican Democrat.”
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Usually refered to as anyways Thu, Jan 6, 2011 3:29:08pm |
re: #43 BishopX
TBH china’s sovereign wealth fund may prove to be a saving grace. If they are heavily invested in potential conflict zones they are less likely to start a shooting war.
I don’t necessarily think the build up is to start wars.
I think the will use their position for a greater say in world politics and economic policy on the world stage.
I believe they will expect to dictate to the world as they do over their population.
As you have mentioned we are seeing some of their economic policies it the green technology contracts they are asking others to sign.
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Thu, Jan 6, 2011 3:29:22pm |
I swear half the people who are into this ron paul gold standard stuff do it because they just think gold being the currency is cool, sorta almost in a dungeons and dragons/rennaissance fair way
I wonder if they’re also into solving disputes with fencing
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Thu, Jan 6, 2011 3:29:37pm |
re: #51 Amory Blaine
the DEAD risin from the GRAVES
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Thu, Jan 6, 2011 3:30:30pm |
re: #50 Walter L. Newton
Those were those funny, inside cover, last page, comic books adverts for “You Too Can Make An Atomic Bomb (and fool your friends)” products.
“what the…these are Legos! Well, crap.”
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Gus Thu, Jan 6, 2011 3:31:00pm |
re: #51 Amory Blaine
Shit’s getting weird.
Thousands Of Dead Doves Fall From The Sky In Italy
It’s just a “news trend”. Review these and you’ll see this is nothing new.
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Amory Blaine Thu, Jan 6, 2011 3:31:22pm |
re: #28 Gus 802
OK. I’ll drop the bomb. It won’t “make the news” because he’s not a Republican.
How’s that? It’s plastered all over the blogs already.
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researchok Thu, Jan 6, 2011 3:31:52pm |
re: #45 ozbloke
Does anyone know any background on this story, I hadn’t heard of it before?
State of War, by James Risen
Risen states in his book, “It’s not clear who originally came up with the idea, but the plan [to give Tehran nuclear blueprints] was first approved by Clinton.”
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Gus Thu, Jan 6, 2011 3:31:59pm |
re: #58 Amory Blaine
How’s that? It’s plastered all over the blogs already.
Yeah. OK. I’ll retract that statement.
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Walter L. Newton Thu, Jan 6, 2011 3:32:59pm |
re: #57 Gus 802
It’s just a “news trend”. Review these and you’ll see this is nothing new.
I’ve been posting similar information, both in links and comments, for the last 4 days… doesn’t matter… people are gullible, and it’s language like “Shit’s getting weird” that just keeps the myths alive.
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researchok Thu, Jan 6, 2011 3:33:37pm |
re: #57 Gus 802
It’s just a “news trend”. Review these and you’ll see this is nothing new.
‘Environmental’ sells
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Amory Blaine Thu, Jan 6, 2011 3:34:19pm |
re: #57 Gus 802
It’s just a “news trend”. Review these and you’ll see this is nothing new.
But it’s important for me to think this is a new phenomenon so I may live in fear of the unknown.
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researchok Thu, Jan 6, 2011 3:35:31pm |
re: #63 Amory Blaine
But it’s important for me to think this is a new phenomenon so I may live in fear of the unknown.
I think the powers that be would prefer you to live in ‘terror’.
/
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Gus Thu, Jan 6, 2011 3:35:37pm |
re: #63 Amory Blaine
But it’s important for me to think this is a new phenomenon so I may live in fear of the unknown.
Yep. Could be the infamous Cloaking Flying Cats.
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Walter L. Newton Thu, Jan 6, 2011 3:36:57pm |
re: #63 Amory Blaine
But it’s important for me to think this is a new phenomenon so I may live in fear of the unknown.
It’s not a phenomena.
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Amory Blaine Thu, Jan 6, 2011 3:37:12pm |
re: #65 Gus 802
Yep. Could be the infamous Cloaking Flying Cats.
If cats start dropping from the sky then shit really is getting weird.
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researchok Thu, Jan 6, 2011 3:37:52pm |
re: #65 Gus 802
Yep. Could be the infamous Cloaking Flying Cats.
Mossad cats.
Let’s be accurate, OK?
/
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Walter L. Newton Thu, Jan 6, 2011 3:38:40pm |
re: #67 Amory Blaine
If cats start dropping from the sky then shit really is getting weird.
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Gus Thu, Jan 6, 2011 3:38:49pm |
re: #67 Amory Blaine
If cats start dropping from the sky then shit really is getting weird.
A mass of dead birds followed by a trail of kitty litter and hair balls.
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Usually refered to as anyways Thu, Jan 6, 2011 3:38:51pm |
re: #59 researchok
If thats the MBF coming out I’ll play just for a moment.
As I said, I have not heard anything about this but I will respond to your comment.
Would it be the fault of the one who conceives an idea, or the one who makes the plan and has it carried out?
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Amory Blaine Thu, Jan 6, 2011 3:41:43pm |
re: #69 Walter L. Newton
My mom has that exact chicken hat for her cat. I feel sorry for him when he has to wear it for our amusement.
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Usually refered to as anyways Thu, Jan 6, 2011 3:42:05pm |
Anyone else having twitter issues?
Twitter is over capacity.
Please wait a moment and try again. For more information, check out Twitter Status »
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Stanley Sea Thu, Jan 6, 2011 3:42:09pm |
re: #27 garhighway
Why would it? Are we are going to tar him with the entire JPM client list? That’s absurd on its face.
The guy’s a centrist. Most responsible posters here LIKE centrists, and spend a lot of time complaining about the extremists on both sides.
EXACTLY
| 76 |
researchok Thu, Jan 6, 2011 3:42:55pm |
re: #71 ozbloke
If thats the MBF coming out I’ll play just for a moment.
As I said, I have not heard anything about this but I will respond to your comment.
Would it be the fault of the one who conceives an idea, or the one who makes the plan and has it carried out?
The issue in the end, is irrelevant- and I’m not sure of Risen’s claims.
The Iranians have a Russian designed and built reactor.
I suspect that in a post Chernobyl world the Iranians would have a built an American designed reactor if given a choice.
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Amory Blaine Thu, Jan 6, 2011 3:43:36pm |
re: #74 ozbloke
Anyone else having twitter issues?
Twitter is over capacity.
Please wait a moment and try again. For more information, check out Twitter Status »
Twitters down? No tweets? Birds falling out of the sky!!WTF ARRRGghh!!!
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researchok Thu, Jan 6, 2011 3:44:03pm |
re: #73 Amory Blaine
My mom has that exact chicken hat for her cat. I feel sorry for him when he has to wear it for our amusement.
I’m more worried about your mom.
///
| 80 |
Stanley Sea Thu, Jan 6, 2011 3:46:10pm |
re: #74 ozbloke
Anyone else having twitter issues?
Twitter is over capacity.
Please wait a moment and try again. For more information, check out Twitter Status »
It’s up, try try try again.
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wrenchwench Thu, Jan 6, 2011 3:46:26pm |
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Usually refered to as anyways Thu, Jan 6, 2011 3:46:41pm |
re: #77 Amory Blaine
Twitters down? No tweets? Birds falling out of the sky!!WTF ARRRGghh!!!
It’s the end of the world as we know it
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researchok Thu, Jan 6, 2011 3:47:00pm |
re: #81 wrenchwench
Good thing it’s not raining gold.
That would hurt.
I’m tough.
I could deal with that.
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Gus Thu, Jan 6, 2011 3:48:13pm |
re: #83 researchok
I’m tough.
I could deal with that.
That’s where a hardshell helmet with a tinfoil underlayment comes in handy.
//
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researchok Thu, Jan 6, 2011 3:51:56pm |
re: #82 ozbloke
It’s the end of the world as we know it
[Video]
When done with that video, I’ll bet that guy had some serious munchies.
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Stanley Sea Thu, Jan 6, 2011 3:52:47pm |
ThePlumLineGS
Constitution-worshipping Tea Party chieftains Michele Bachmann and Steve King missed today’s reading: [Link: wapo.st…]
They will be called on their hypocrisy.
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Usually refered to as anyways Thu, Jan 6, 2011 3:53:39pm |
re: #86 researchok
When done with that video, I’ll bet that guy had some serious munchies.
From the colors for boxes and text, I would suggest he is an 80’s web designer.
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blueraven Thu, Jan 6, 2011 3:55:08pm |
re: #75 Stanley Sea
EXACTLY
The Daley appt will be a big deal for the far left and the far right, the rest of us, not so much.
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researchok Thu, Jan 6, 2011 3:56:15pm |
re: #90 ozbloke
From the colors for boxes and text, I would suggest he is an 80’s web designer.
Or 70’s disco
Or 60’s psychedelic
| 94 |
Usually refered to as anyways Thu, Jan 6, 2011 3:57:12pm |
re: #92 researchok
Or 60’s psychedelic
You may have it there, hippie web designer with a mid life crisis.
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Stanley Sea Thu, Jan 6, 2011 3:57:20pm |
re: #90 ozbloke
From the colors for boxes and text, I would suggest he is an 80’s web designer.
But the words to that song! Love it.
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researchok Thu, Jan 6, 2011 3:58:04pm |
re: #94 ozbloke
You may have it there, hippie web designer with a mid life crisis.
With a passion for THC
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Usually refered to as anyways Thu, Jan 6, 2011 3:58:11pm |
re: #95 Stanley Sea
But the words to that song! Love it.
Words? Who cares, did you see those colors.
Groovy
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researchok Thu, Jan 6, 2011 4:00:32pm |
re: #98 Gus 802
It’s raining men!
//
Same lousy weather here.
Word is it’s raining women in California.
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b_sharp Thu, Jan 6, 2011 4:02:29pm |
re: #98 Gus 802
It’s raining men!
//
Obviously, that is an indication that global warming is a hoax. There was no prediction made by the warmists that men will fall from the sky.
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wrenchwench Thu, Jan 6, 2011 4:04:57pm |
re: #100 b_sharp
Obviously, that is an indication that global warming is a hoax. There was no prediction made by the warmists that men will fall from the sky.
Have you taken the temperature of the men?
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Gus Thu, Jan 6, 2011 4:05:03pm |
re: #99 researchok
Same lousy weather here.
Word is it’s raining women in California.
No rain here. It never rains in Denver — typically it’s just showers. Just had that little bit of snow last week.
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Amory Blaine Thu, Jan 6, 2011 4:05:23pm |
From The New York Times: Health Spending Rose in ’09, but at Low Rate
“Total national health spending grew by 4 percent in 2009, the slowest rate of increase in 50 years, as people lost their jobs, lost health insurance and deferred medical care, the federal government reported on Wednesday. “
From The LA Times: Blue Shield of California seeks rate hikes of as much as 59% for individuals
“Another big California health insurer has stunned individual policyholders with huge rate increases — this time it’s Blue Shield of California seeking cumulative hikes of as much as 59% for tens of thousands of customers March 1.”
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Walter L. Newton Thu, Jan 6, 2011 4:06:07pm |
I’m appalled. For the last 40 years, reasonable people have tried to expunge the “N” word from our vocabulary, a derogatory term that has no place in modern society.
And no where is this word more abused and flaunted than in the trashy pulp novel “Adventures of Huckleberry Finn”. And recently a sensitive and well meaning publisher reprinted the story, with that offensive word remove, in an attempt to resurrect this crude excuse for literature from the dust bin of history.
So, what does CNN do… they publish an opinion piece that uses the WHOLE WORD, bluntly and blatantly, in an attempt to undermine 40 or more years of improving race relations.
I won’t even link to the offending article, you can find it yourself if you want to waste your time… if you do, send an email to CNN and let them know just what you think of this outrage.
Disgusting.
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researchok Thu, Jan 6, 2011 4:06:20pm |
re: #102 Gus 802
No rain here. It never rains in Denver — typically it’s just showers. Just had that little bit of snow last week.
California weather is more appealing.
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b_sharp Thu, Jan 6, 2011 4:06:25pm |
re: #101 wrenchwench
Have you taken the temperature of the men?
All I have available are anal probes. I ain’t goin’ anywhere near a man while I’m armed with an anal probe.
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researchok Thu, Jan 6, 2011 4:07:29pm |
re: #104 Walter L. Newton
I’m appalled. For the last 40 years, reasonable people have tried to expunge the “N” word from our vocabulary, a derogatory term that has no place in modern society.
And no where is this word more abused and flaunted than in the trashy pulp novel “Adventures of Huckleberry Finn”. And recently a sensitive and well meaning publisher reprinted the story, with that offensive word remove, in an attempt to resurrect this crude excuse for literature from the dust bin of history.
So, what does CNN do… they publish an opinion piece that uses the WHOLE WORD, bluntly and blatantly, in an attempt to undermine 40 or more years of improving race relations.
I won’t even link to the offending article, you can find it yourself if you want to waste your time… if you do, send an email to CNN and let them know just what you think of this outrage.
Disgusting.
I advised the French to go to full alert.
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b_sharp Thu, Jan 6, 2011 4:08:11pm |
re: #104 Walter L. Newton
I’m appalled. For the last 40 years, reasonable people have tried to expunge the “N” word from our vocabulary, a derogatory term that has no place in modern society.
And no where is this word more abused and flaunted than in the trashy pulp novel “Adventures of Huckleberry Finn”. And recently a sensitive and well meaning publisher reprinted the story, with that offensive word remove, in an attempt to resurrect this crude excuse for literature from the dust bin of history.
So, what does CNN do… they publish an opinion piece that uses the WHOLE WORD, bluntly and blatantly, in an attempt to undermine 40 or more years of improving race relations.
I won’t even link to the offending article, you can find it yourself if you want to waste your time… if you do, send an email to CNN and let them know just what you think of this outrage.
Disgusting.
I agree, it is disgusting to rewrite a classic work of art. What’s next, a bra for Venus?
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Walter L. Newton Thu, Jan 6, 2011 4:08:23pm |
re: #107 researchok
I advised the French to go to full alert.
Yea… I’m sort of edged up this evening… huh?
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Gus Thu, Jan 6, 2011 4:09:21pm |
re: #108 b_sharp
I agree, it is disgusting to rewrite a classic work of art. What’s next, a bra for Venus?
We now await the cleansed history of WWII.
| 111 |
Walter L. Newton Thu, Jan 6, 2011 4:09:31pm |
re: #108 b_sharp
I agree, it is disgusting to rewrite a classic work of art. What’s next, a bra for Venus?
Agree? I’m appalled that anyone would want to publish this with the offensive words… maybe this story should be destroyed totally… taken out of the historical record all together?
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researchok Thu, Jan 6, 2011 4:10:00pm |
re: #109 Walter L. Newton
Yea… I’m sort of edged up this evening… huh?
You are in fine form.
Works for me.
As for being edgy, well, it’s been a tough couple of days for you.
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b_sharp Thu, Jan 6, 2011 4:11:15pm |
re: #111 Walter L. Newton
Agree? I’m appalled that anyone would want to publish this with the offensive words… maybe this story should be destroyed totally… taken out of the historical record all together?
How about we worry about where we are and where we’re going instead of where we were?
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Killgore Trout Thu, Jan 6, 2011 4:11:24pm |
re: #103 Amory Blaine
From The New York Times: Health Spending Rose in ’09, but at Low Rate
From The LA Times: Blue Shield of California seeks rate hikes of as much as 59% for individuals
It may be too late for healthcare reform. Let’s hope this works.
| 115 |
wrenchwench Thu, Jan 6, 2011 4:11:37pm |
re: #102 Gus 802
No rain here. It never rains in Denver — typically it’s just showers. Just had that little bit of snow last week.
It’s raining indoors here. No precipitation outside for almost a week, but the snow on the roof only melts a little bit each day. It starts to drip in the hall right outside my office around noon, and stops when it freezes at night.
Fortunately I’m a renter, but I’ve been trying for the absentee landlady to get a roofer to fix it for months. Supposedly mine is the next job on the list, and has been for weeks.
The sound of the dripping is driving me nuts.
| 116 |
Gus Thu, Jan 6, 2011 4:11:49pm |
Now we have to work on Lincoln: “why did Yankees almost instantly discover gold in California, which had been trodden upon and overlooked by Indians and Mexican greasers for centuries?” — Abraham Lincoln
| 117 |
Amory Blaine Thu, Jan 6, 2011 4:12:42pm |
re: #113 b_sharp
How about we worry about where we are and where we’re going instead of where we were?
My Native American wife likes to watch westerns. Go figure.
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researchok Thu, Jan 6, 2011 4:12:51pm |
re: #110 Gus 802
We now await the cleansed history of WWII.
As in an Oliver Stone effort- ‘Hitler was just misunderstood’,
I hear he’ll blame the bad behavior on a peanut allergy, not being breast fed and late toilet training.
| 119 |
Bubblehead II Thu, Jan 6, 2011 4:13:18pm |
re: #108 b_sharp
Why not. It worked for Justice Department.
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Gus Thu, Jan 6, 2011 4:14:28pm |
re: #114 Killgore Trout
It may be too late for healthcare reform. Let’s hope this works.
Health insurance premiums will only go down over the next decade.
//
| 121 |
researchok Thu, Jan 6, 2011 4:14:56pm |
re: #114 Killgore Trout
It may be too late for healthcare reform. Let’s hope this works.
I’d bet on it being too late.
We’re headed for a hybrid system, I believe.
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b_sharp Thu, Jan 6, 2011 4:15:11pm |
re: #115 wrenchwench
It’s raining indoors here. No precipitation outside for almost a week, but the snow on the roof only melts a little bit each day. It starts to drip in the hall right outside my office around noon, and stops when it freezes at night.
Fortunately I’m a renter, but I’ve been trying for the absentee landlady to get a roofer to fix it for months. Supposedly mine is the next job on the list, and has been for weeks.
The sound of the dripping is driving me nuts.
Record the sound and put it on your landlord’s message machine.
| 123 |
wrenchwench Thu, Jan 6, 2011 4:15:46pm |
Here’s an audio cure for the sound of dripping:
| 124 |
b_sharp Thu, Jan 6, 2011 4:16:14pm |
re: #117 Amory Blaine
My Native American wife likes to watch westerns. Go figure.
You have a native wife? Cool. Welcome to the club.
| 125 |
Gus Thu, Jan 6, 2011 4:16:52pm |
re: #111 Walter L. Newton
Agree? I’m appalled that anyone would want to publish this with the offensive words… maybe this story should be destroyed totally… taken out of the historical record all together?
Good point. We better start re-writing the letters of Thomas Jefferson, Benjamin Franklin, etc. Or the Lincoln debates. We can’t let future generation have a realistic impression of who these gentleman really were. We must re-write the works of history to reflect modern day morals and standards.
| 126 |
b_sharp Thu, Jan 6, 2011 4:17:05pm |
| 127 |
researchok Thu, Jan 6, 2011 4:18:43pm |
re: #111 Walter L. Newton
Agree? I’m appalled that anyone would want to publish this with the offensive words… maybe this story should be destroyed totally… taken out of the historical record all together?
Remember sarc tags?
| 128 |
Bubblehead II Thu, Jan 6, 2011 4:18:53pm |
re: #126 b_sharp
I thought this to be quite humorous. Last paragraph.
When former Attorney General Edwin Meese released a report on pornography in the 1980s, photographers dived to the floor to capture the image of him raising the report in the air, with the partially nude female statue behind him.
| 129 |
wrenchwench Thu, Jan 6, 2011 4:19:37pm |
re: #122 b_sharp
Record the sound and put it on your landlord’s message machine.
She’s a thousand miles away. I don’t know whether she’s even been to this town, but her grandfather built the building next door.
Apparently there’s only one roofer in town, and he works when he wants to. He should get the recording. Funny, his daughter works next door on the other side, which is the same building I’m in, and her office has been water-damaged a couple of times, but nobody bothered to tell my poor landlady that she needed a new roof.
| 130 |
b_sharp Thu, Jan 6, 2011 4:21:11pm |
re: #125 Gus 802
Good point. We better start re-writing the letters of Thomas Jefferson, Benjamin Franklin, etc. Or the Lincoln debates. We can’t let future generation have a realistic impression of who these gentleman really were. We must re-write the works of history to reflect modern day morals and standards.
We celebrate the sacrifices our military made in recent conflicts every year in an attempt to remind us what political errors to avoid. Aside from the intrinsic value we place on classic art, that art serves to show us where we were, how far we’ve come and what to avoid.
| 131 |
b_sharp Thu, Jan 6, 2011 4:21:55pm |
re: #128 Bubblehead II
I thought this to be quite humorous. Last paragraph.
When former Attorney General Edwin Meese released a report on pornography in the 1980s, photographers dived to the floor to capture the image of him raising the report in the air, with the partially nude female statue behind him.
Brilliant thinking on their part.
| 133 |
b_sharp Thu, Jan 6, 2011 4:27:09pm |
Since I’m all alone I can do what I want. Time to take off the clothes.
Weee!
Ouch!
| 134 |
Gus Thu, Jan 6, 2011 4:27:57pm |
re: #130 b_sharp
We celebrate the sacrifices our military made in recent conflicts every year in an attempt to remind us what political errors to avoid. Aside from the intrinsic value we place on classic art, that art serves to show us where we were, how far we’ve come and what to avoid.
Yep. Taken to its extreme why stop at Huckleberry Finn? What about the history of civil rights? The history of men like George Wallace or the Southern Strategy and Lee Atwater’s words. Our children will grow up to have the wrong impression of American history (and other nations). The n-word was part of that vernacular that communicates the viciousness of that period of time which we still see, although in lessor part, to this day.
| 135 |
Bubblehead II Thu, Jan 6, 2011 4:31:02pm |
re: #132 b_sharp
I done killed it.
Nah, been like this all day. a rash of posts then a quite spell. Been tempted to post you tube links to some of my favorite singers just to keep it from being dead. So far I have been able to resist that impulse.
| 136 |
wrenchwench Thu, Jan 6, 2011 4:31:16pm |
Hey Stanley, do you know whether beekiller will ever come back again?
| 137 |
ProBosniaLiberal Thu, Jan 6, 2011 4:31:18pm |
Anyone have an opinion on the imminent referendum (1/9) on independence for South Sudan?
| 138 |
Mostly sane, most of the time. Thu, Jan 6, 2011 4:32:13pm |
re: #137 ProLifeLiberal
Anyone have an opinion on the imminent referendum (1/9) on independence for South Sudan?
None whatsoever. Haven’t heard of it. What’s the story?
| 139 |
reloadingisnotahobby Thu, Jan 6, 2011 4:32:50pm |
re: #133 b_sharp
Close the blinds………..
Oh..Please!
Why would you have a tattoo there???
| 140 |
b_sharp Thu, Jan 6, 2011 4:33:27pm |
re: #134 Gus 802
Yep. Taken to its extreme why stop at Huckleberry Finn? What about the history of civil rights? The history of men like George Wallace or the Southern Strategy and Lee Atwater’s words. Our children will grow up to have the wrong impression of American history (and other nations). The n-word was part of that vernacular that communicates the viciousness of that period of time which we still see, although in lessor part, to this day.
It’s important our descendants see the bad as well as the good of our past. Hiding the negative aspects of our culture is a form of cultural repression that isolates our kids from important lessons some gave their lives for us to learn.
| 141 |
b_sharp Thu, Jan 6, 2011 4:34:31pm |
re: #139 reloadingisnotahobby
Close the blinds…
Oh..Please!
Why would you have a tattoo there???
You weren’t supposed to see that.
| 142 |
Bubblehead II Thu, Jan 6, 2011 4:35:24pm |
re: #138 EmmmieG
None whatsoever. Haven’t heard of it. What’s the story?
| 143 |
reloadingisnotahobby Thu, Jan 6, 2011 4:35:59pm |
We have a very sick puppy…….
I have no idea what …but the…never mind!
The vet has seen him and gave me a mop bucket!
..That is a bad sign !
| 144 |
Bubblehead II Thu, Jan 6, 2011 4:37:41pm |
re: #143 reloadingisnotahobby
Eat something he shouldn’t have?
| 145 |
Mostly sane, most of the time. Thu, Jan 6, 2011 4:40:43pm |
My opinion on the referendum:
There will be no clear winner, by which I mean that the vote will be dirty, full of violence, and both sides will claim victory.
There will be rioting.
There will be death.
This is the Sudan, so there may be no way to prevent it.
Of course, I didn’t need to research for that. It’s Africa & Oil, mixed.
| 146 |
Stanley Sea Thu, Jan 6, 2011 4:41:28pm |
re: #136 wrenchwench
Hey Stanley, do you know whether beekiller will ever come back again?
He’s MIA. No idea. Hope he’s ok, probably got a life to lead and all that.
| 147 |
Gus Thu, Jan 6, 2011 4:41:48pm |
re: #140 b_sharp
It’s important our descendants see the bad as well as the good of our past. Hiding the negative aspects of our culture is a form of cultural repression that isolates our kids from important lessons some gave their lives for us to learn.
This is from A Note on the Word “Ni**er” by Randall Kennedy, Professor of Law, Harvard University
Given the power of “ni**er” to wound, it is important to provide a context within which presentation of that term can be properly understood. It is also imperative, however, to permit present and future readers to see for themselves directly the full gamut of American cultural productions, the ugly as well as the beautiful, those that mirror the majestic features of American democracy and those that mirror America’s most depressing failings.
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reloadingisnotahobby Thu, Jan 6, 2011 4:42:19pm |
re: #144 Bubblehead II
I’ve looked all over the yard….Cat poop some times…But he has a bacterial
infection …so yes He ate some thing bad!
I’ve told him a thousand times if I’ve told him ……He’s a dog!
| 149 |
Killgore Trout Thu, Jan 6, 2011 4:43:42pm |
Beck Fearmongers About Contrails, Government Purposely Inflating Food Prices
Fish birds, Ice cream, contrails!
| 150 |
reloadingisnotahobby Thu, Jan 6, 2011 4:44:51pm |
re: #149 Killgore Trout
Leave Ice cream out of this please!!!
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Gus Thu, Jan 6, 2011 4:46:07pm |
A couple of more interesting takes:
…This is actually much worse, because the invocation of ni**er by Twain is not a moral failing. But because of our needs, Twain isn’t good enough. Because we can’t handle the story of who we were, and evidently who we are, Twain must be summoned up from the dead and, all against himself, submitted before the edits of amateurs.This is our system of fast-food education laid bare: Children are roaming the halls singing “Sexy Bitch,” while their neo-Confederate parents are plotting to chop the penis off Michelangelo’s David, and clamoring for Gatsby and Daisy to be reunited…
Taking the History Out of ‘Huck Finn’
…But erasing “ni**er” from Huckleberry Finn—or ignoring our failures—doesn’t change anything. It doesn’t provide racial enlightenment, or justice, and it won’t shield anyone from the legacy of slavery and racial discrimination. All it does is feed the American aversion to history and reflection. Which is a shame. If there’s anything great about this country, it’s in our ability to account for and overcome our mistakes. Peddling whitewashed ignorance diminishes America as much as it does our intellect…
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Thu, Jan 6, 2011 4:47:53pm |
re: #151 Gus 802
A couple of more interesting takes:
The irony, of course, is that HF is about Huck Finn coming to see Jim as a person, and helping Jim to freedom. It’s almost a story about America, coming to see black people as people, with rights.
Read Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur’s Court. Twain hated slavery.
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Killgore Trout Thu, Jan 6, 2011 4:49:31pm |
re: #151 Gus 802
A couple of more interesting takes:
It’s absurd but this debate about banning or censoring Huck Finn happens every year or two. They’ll probably do it eventually.
| 154 |
Mostly sane, most of the time. Thu, Jan 6, 2011 4:50:13pm |
re: #153 Killgore Trout
It’s absurd but this debate about banning or censoring Huck Finn happens every year or two. They’ll probably do it eventually.
Wouldn’t it be simpler to just wait for the time machines? Then someone can go back and tell Twain to pick another word.
| 155 |
ProBosniaLiberal Thu, Jan 6, 2011 4:51:43pm |
re: #137 ProLifeLiberal
Small explanation of the situation
This referendum was part of a peace agreement to end the Civil War between the Christian South and Muslim North. I personally support the South seceding. Muslims are supposed to treat People of the Book well. Yet, the government of Omar al-Bashir has completely violated this. Therefore, they cannot be trusted to keep rule of the area.
| 156 |
Stanley Sea Thu, Jan 6, 2011 4:52:11pm |
re: #147 Gus 802
Ah, I’m trying to find specific posts, found a couple below. But the ones I trust and I think they have divergent views are Ta Nehisi Coates of the Atlantic, and Jason Whitlock (who turned me on to LGF. thanks Jason!) sportswriter for Foxsports, was at the Kansas City Star.
[Link: www.theatlantic.com…]
[Link: www.theatlantic.com…]
Can’t find the Jason Whitlock posts, but they are there.
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albusteve Thu, Jan 6, 2011 4:52:25pm |
re: #153 Killgore Trout
It’s absurd but this debate about banning or censoring Huck Finn happens every year or two. They’ll probably do it eventually.
it’s very disappointing, considering the state of public education, that this is even an issue…IMO nobody has the right to alter Twains words, print them and gain a profit
| 158 |
Killgore Trout Thu, Jan 6, 2011 4:52:31pm |
re: #152 EmmmieG
The irony, of course, is that HF is about Huck Finn coming to see Jim as a person, and helping Jim to freedom. It’s almost a story about America, coming to see black people as people, with rights.
Read Connecticut Yankee in King Arthur’s Court. Twain hated slavery.
True but he wasn’t PC. In Innocents Abroad he routinely refers to other cultures and “savages” and “uncultured”. He was a man of his times, although an enlightened one.
I still think it’s important for people to be able to read his original works and understand them for what they are (or were).
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Thu, Jan 6, 2011 4:54:05pm |
re: #157 albusteve
it’s very disappointing, considering the state of public education, that this is even an issue…IMO nobody has the right to alter Twains words, print them and gain a profit
But…but Disney made up a sequel to the Hunchback of Notre Dame. (Which, considering that Quasimodo DIED in the real one, is quite a feat.)
Quasimodo got to sing some more, and a cute girl to love.
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wrenchwench Thu, Jan 6, 2011 4:55:38pm |
re: #156 Stanley Sea
…Jason Whitlock (who turned me on to LGF. thanks Jason!) sportswriter for Foxsports, was at the Kansas City Star.
A sports guy? How did that happen?
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Bubblehead II Thu, Jan 6, 2011 4:56:10pm |
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Bear Thu, Jan 6, 2011 4:56:25pm |
Wonder if Stephen Foster’s songs have to be rewritten if they are to be played today.
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Gus Thu, Jan 6, 2011 4:59:10pm |
re: #159 EmmmieG
But…but Disney made up a sequel to the Hunchback of Notre Dame. (Which, considering that Quasimodo DIED in the real one, is quite a feat.)
Quasimodo got to sing some more, and a cute girl to love.
The “happy version” of the Hunchback of Notre Dame.
Our future.
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albusteve Thu, Jan 6, 2011 4:59:15pm |
re: #162 Bear
Wonder if Stephen Foster’s songs have to be rewritten if they are to be played today.
or Snoop Dog’s
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albusteve Thu, Jan 6, 2011 5:00:09pm |
re: #163 Gus 802
The “happy version” of the Hunchback of Notre Dame.
Our future.
“frankly my dear, I give a damn”
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Walter L. Newton Thu, Jan 6, 2011 5:01:21pm |
re: #125 Gus 802
Good point. We better start re-writing the letters of Thomas Jefferson, Benjamin Franklin, etc. Or the Lincoln debates. We can’t let future generation have a realistic impression of who these gentleman really were. We must re-write the works of history to reflect modern day morals and standards.
(Sorry I didn’t answer sooner… had to go to the back… just got back… robbed it).
Thanks goodness someone understands my point.
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reloadingisnotahobby Thu, Jan 6, 2011 5:01:35pm |
re: #162 Bear
Camp town races five miles long ..Do Da!
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Walter L. Newton Thu, Jan 6, 2011 5:03:15pm |
re: #166 Walter L. Newton
Bank… bank… PIMF
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albusteve Thu, Jan 6, 2011 5:03:50pm |
history is being rewritten, why not printed fiction?
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cliffster Thu, Jan 6, 2011 5:03:54pm |
re: #160 wrenchwench
A sports guy? How did that happen?
It is possible to keep up with sports AND have intelligence…
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reloadingisnotahobby Thu, Jan 6, 2011 5:04:21pm |
Yep!
I know who Stephen Foster was….I have no idea why ..but it’s just right there in my brain…which is …ah…over there.>>>>
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Walter L. Newton Thu, Jan 6, 2011 5:04:28pm |
re: #163 Gus 802
Evidently my sarcasm got something started while I was gone… I almost took the cheap move and mentioned Sarah Palin (always pushes the right buttons).
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reloadingisnotahobby Thu, Jan 6, 2011 5:05:27pm |
re: #168 Walter L. Newton
Bank… bank… PIMF
You robbed the Bank??
…Shhhh every one !!
Walter will share!
;-)
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Stanley Sea Thu, Jan 6, 2011 5:05:38pm |
re: #160 wrenchwench
A sports guy? How did that happen?
He made a post about how much he was into the election, and how he started reading many many blogs. I swear he mentioned LGF, but if he didn’t, one of his links took me here.
I lurked of course for quite awhile. The folks here @ election time were, uh, rather strong against Obama.
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b_sharp Thu, Jan 6, 2011 5:05:59pm |
re: #172 reloadingisnotahobby
Yep!
I know who Stephen Foster was…I have no idea why ..but it’s just right there in my brain…which is …ah…over there.>>>>
You actually know where your brain is? You lucky bastard.
| 177 |
wrenchwench Thu, Jan 6, 2011 5:06:21pm |
re: #170 cliffster
It is possible to keep up with sports AND have intelligence…
Oops, I did not mean to denigrate sports guys. I’m not much of a sports fan, but I used to read Jim Murray’s column all the time because he was such a great writer.
| 178 |
reloadingisnotahobby Thu, Jan 6, 2011 5:06:46pm |
re: #176 b_sharp
No trick!!
I have a string tied to it!
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Stanley Sea Thu, Jan 6, 2011 5:06:51pm |
re: #170 cliffster
It is possible to keep up with sports AND have intelligence…
Fuck yeah. Hi Cliff! How’s life?
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cliffster Thu, Jan 6, 2011 5:07:16pm |
re: #152 EmmmieG
The irony, of course, is that HF is about Huck Finn coming to see Jim as a person, and helping Jim to freedom.
the real meaning of things doesn’t matter though, you know
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Bubblehead II Thu, Jan 6, 2011 5:08:39pm |
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reloadingisnotahobby Thu, Jan 6, 2011 5:08:56pm |
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cliffster Thu, Jan 6, 2011 5:10:26pm |
re: #179 Stanley Sea
Fuck yeah. Hi Cliff! How’s life?
Great! Santa brought my kids a wii so I’ve been spending a lot of time with my little girl playing super Mario brothers. Who knew game consoles could bring you closer with your kids? How are things for you?
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reloadingisnotahobby Thu, Jan 6, 2011 5:10:31pm |
re: #170 cliffster
It is possible to keep up with sports AND have intelligence…
LOL….Your kidding right?
You’ve never met my son in law…..
| 187 |
Walter L. Newton Thu, Jan 6, 2011 5:11:40pm |
re: #185 cliffster
Great! Santa brought my kids a wii so I’ve been spending a lot of time with my little girl playing super Mario brothers. Who knew game consoles could bring you closer with your kids? How are things for you?
So can sharing a joint.
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reloadingisnotahobby Thu, Jan 6, 2011 5:11:51pm |
re: #184 b_sharp
Boxers or briefs?
You can never too careful!
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reloadingisnotahobby Thu, Jan 6, 2011 5:12:41pm |
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Stanley Sea Thu, Jan 6, 2011 5:13:31pm |
re: #185 cliffster
Great! Santa brought my kids a wii so I’ve been spending a lot of time with my little girl playing super Mario brothers. Who knew game consoles could bring you closer with your kids? How are things for you?
Excellenty. (compare to eleventy) Changes in my life, all good.
Wii golf? I would hope.
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cliffster Thu, Jan 6, 2011 5:16:54pm |
re: #191 Stanley Sea
Excellenty. (compare to eleventy) Changes in my life, all good.
Wii golf? I would hope.
Good to hear. Golf? Of course. Haven’t picked up TW2011 yet but that’ll come this weekend.
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Bubblehead II Thu, Jan 6, 2011 5:19:54pm |
re: #188 reloadingisnotahobby
Boxers or briefs?
You can never too careful!
And they must be comfortable. Don’t want to take the chance of traumatizing the Brain now do we?
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b_sharp Thu, Jan 6, 2011 5:20:57pm |
re: #194 Bubblehead II
And they must be comfortable. Don’t want to take the chance of traumatizing the Brain now do we?
Brains tend to shrink from any sort of trauma.
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Walter L. Newton Thu, Jan 6, 2011 5:21:46pm |
I got silly and I found a frog
In the water by a hollow log
And I shook it at her
And I said “This frog’s for you”
Jim Stafford
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PT Barnum Thu, Jan 6, 2011 5:23:56pm |
re: #198 b_sharp
I have several silk boxers.
My wife loves me.
Until they attacked you, thus starting the Boxer Rebelllion, or a Brief Uprising
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wrenchwench Thu, Jan 6, 2011 5:24:51pm |
re: #200 PT Barnum
Until they attacked you, thus starting the Boxer Rebelllion, or a Brief Uprising
The Wedgie War.
| 202 |
Bubblehead II Thu, Jan 6, 2011 5:25:12pm |
re: #198 b_sharp
I have several silk boxers.
My wife loves me.
Bought my Wife a bunch of Silk for Christmas (No, I will not link to them). She love me. While I was at it, I bought some for myself. I love me to.
| 204 |
darthstar Thu, Jan 6, 2011 5:25:50pm |
| 205 |
Charles Johnson Thu, Jan 6, 2011 5:28:19pm |
Breitbart’s really getting worked up now on Twitter.
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darthstar Thu, Jan 6, 2011 5:30:38pm |
re: #205 Charles
Breitbart’s really getting worked up now on Twitter.
Breitbart probably obsesses about how many followers he has and follows random people in the hopes they’ll follow him back.
| 208 |
Bubblehead II Thu, Jan 6, 2011 5:30:57pm |
re: #205 Charles
Breitbart’s really getting worked up now on Twitter.
What’s got his knickers in a knot now?
| 209 |
Charles Johnson Thu, Jan 6, 2011 5:31:07pm |
re: #207 darthstar
Breitbart probably obsesses about how many followers he has and follows random people in the hopes they’ll follow him back.
I’m having a lot of fun winding him up.
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darthstar Thu, Jan 6, 2011 5:31:13pm |
| 211 |
Charles Johnson Thu, Jan 6, 2011 5:31:39pm |
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wrenchwench Thu, Jan 6, 2011 5:32:23pm |
re: #205 Charles
Breitbart’s really getting worked up now on Twitter.
Where’d Boo Radley come from? And “shut-in”? Maybe he isn’t sleeping at night…
| 213 |
Charles Johnson Thu, Jan 6, 2011 5:33:52pm |
re: #212 wrenchwench
Where’d Boo Radley come from? And “shut-in”? Maybe he isn’t sleeping at night…
Some kind of strange insult that’s supposed to destroy my power. He’s funny.
| 214 |
Stanley Sea Thu, Jan 6, 2011 5:34:02pm |
re: #211 Charles
[Link: twitter.com…]
That’s Bohelert on his twitter page right? WTF, dude is such a victim. And we know how perpetual victims react right?
| 215 |
Killgore Trout Thu, Jan 6, 2011 5:36:08pm |
re: #211 Charles
That reminds me that his “Big” sites sure flopped. No big names, no breaking stories, wingnut blogs rarely link to him. Looks like his exclusive videos have caused too much embarrassment.
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Charles Johnson Thu, Jan 6, 2011 5:38:05pm |
re: #214 Stanley Sea
That’s Bohelert on his twitter page right? WTF, dude is such a victim. And we know how perpetual victims react right?
Yeah, he uses a picture of Eric Boehlert as his icon. Some kind of tribal thinking going on there — he’s stealing Boehlert’s soul or something.
Breitbart has some important screws loose.
| 218 |
Walter L. Newton Thu, Jan 6, 2011 5:40:00pm |
Just in time for my trip…
Smuggled weapons raise fresh concerns over French aviation security
Two journalists have questioned the robustness of aviation security throughout France after successfully boarding domestic flights from two of the country’s busiest airports armed with a weapon concealed in their hand-luggage.
Linda Bendali and Mathieu Lere, filming a special report for France 2 television channel, boarded a morning flight from Charles de Gaulle to Nice on November 8 and returned to Paris from Marseille airport without being stopped by any of the passenger screening controls put in place by airport authorities.
What makes the report so alarming is both the ease with which the 9-mm semi-automatic handgun was disassembled, placed into two separate pieces of hand-luggage and carried onto the plane, and the incredibly close occurrence of the incidents, both happening within hours of each other.
Lovely…
| 219 |
Stanley Sea Thu, Jan 6, 2011 5:40:10pm |
re: #216 Charles
Yeah, he uses a picture of Eric Boehlert as his icon. Some kind of tribal thinking going on there — he’s stealing Boehlert’s soul or something.
Breitbart has some important screws loose.
bizarre
| 220 |
Charles Johnson Thu, Jan 6, 2011 5:41:00pm |
re: #215 Killgore Trout
That reminds me that his “Big” sites sure flopped. No big names, no breaking stories, wingnut blogs rarely link to him. Looks like his exclusive videos have caused too much embarrassment.
Even the hard core wingnuts are slightly embarrassed by his Shirley Sherrod smear. That one was so obviously fraudulent it even hurt his standing in the right wing. And it takes a lot to do that.
| 221 |
WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Thu, Jan 6, 2011 5:43:34pm |
Why would anyone treat a guy who just has weird yellow copies of his head as his twitter background as any kind of news source
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Charles Johnson Thu, Jan 6, 2011 5:45:34pm |
re: #221 WindUpBird
Why would anyone treat a guy who just has weird yellow copies of his head as his twitter background as any kind of news source
That’s not his head - it’s Eric Boehlert of Media Matters. Yes — he has one of his worst enemies as his avatar.
He also retweets anything negative that gets posted about him on Twitter. He seems to feed on negative energy like a psychic lamprey.
| 223 |
Walter L. Newton Thu, Jan 6, 2011 5:46:28pm |
BB later… supper… homemade Miso… and sandwiches (I need meat).
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Political Atheist Thu, Jan 6, 2011 5:48:03pm |
re: #223 Walter L. Newton
I love that Miso soup. Never had home made. Wonderful stuff.
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Vicious Babushka Thu, Jan 6, 2011 5:48:06pm |
re: #35 Lidane
You just can’t make this stuff up:
Why not make money out of twinkies? Then at least when the Apocalypse comes, you can eat it.
| 226 |
jaunte Thu, Jan 6, 2011 5:48:09pm |
Media Matters Timeline of Breitbart’s Sherrod smear
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Dark_Falcon Thu, Jan 6, 2011 5:49:20pm |
re: #20 Gus 802
It really hasn’t been discussed. I’m sure this has the potential for causing a great deal of discomfort with many folks. He’s some more Daley fun:
The more liberal wing of the Democratic party has never liked Bill Daley. It’s not just his largely pro-business career, but also his origins. His being the son of Richard J. Daley identifies him in their mind with the Chicago Machine, which is not a liberal party of the Democratic party.
| 228 |
Vicious Babushka Thu, Jan 6, 2011 5:50:08pm |
re: #159 EmmmieG
But…but Disney made up a sequel to the Hunchback of Notre Dame. (Which, considering that Quasimodo DIED in the real one, is quite a feat.)
Quasimodo got to sing some more, and a cute girl to love.
Esmeralda also died in the original.
| 229 |
darthstar Thu, Jan 6, 2011 5:50:39pm |
re: #211 Charles
[Link: twitter.com…]
Breitbart is about two years away from needing a bad comb-over.
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webevintage Thu, Jan 6, 2011 5:51:48pm |
re: #205 Charles
Breitbart’s really getting worked up now on Twitter.
“Boo Radley”?
My goodness the crazy is flowing.
Maybe he has been drinking?
| 231 |
Charles Johnson Thu, Jan 6, 2011 5:53:08pm |
re: #230 webevintage
He just finished reading ‘To Kill a Mockingbird’. He’s probably studying up on tried and true methods of race-baiting.
| 232 |
WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Thu, Jan 6, 2011 5:54:02pm |
re: #222 Charles
That’s not his head - it’s Eric Boehlert of Media Matters. Yes — he has one of his worst enemies as his avatar.
He also retweets anything negative that gets posted about him on Twitter. He seems to feed on negative energy like a psychic lamprey.
ahhh okay! it’s not internet, it’s INTERNET!!! Bleah
| 233 |
Dark_Falcon Thu, Jan 6, 2011 5:55:15pm |
re: #212 wrenchwench
Where’d Boo Radley come from? And “shut-in”? Maybe he isn’t sleeping at night…
It’s from Harper Lee’s To Kill a Mockingbird. I don’t really understand the reference. It’s doesn’t really work as an insult, given that Boo Radley saves Scout from a fire and turns out to be a decent man.
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darthstar Thu, Jan 6, 2011 5:55:28pm |
re: #231 Charles
He just finished reading ‘To Kill a Mockingbird’. He’s probably studying up on tried and true methods of race-baiting.
Reading it? Books on tape is more like it.
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brookly red Thu, Jan 6, 2011 5:56:24pm |
re: #225 Alouette
Why not make money out of twinkies? Then at least when the Apocalypse comes, you can eat it.
fried twinkies is one of the first signs of the Apocalypse coming…
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brookly red Thu, Jan 6, 2011 6:09:51pm |
re: #235 brookly red
fried twinkies is one of the first signs of the Apocalypse coming…
awww crap, did I kill the thread?
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Thu, Jan 6, 2011 6:12:10pm |
Ted Nugent is sometimes really great: [Link: popwatch.ew.com…]
I don’t care how crazy he is, THAT WAS FUNNY
| 239 |
Bubblehead II Thu, Jan 6, 2011 6:12:39pm |
re: #235 brookly red
fried twinkies is one of the first signs of the Apocalypse coming…
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Stanley Sea Thu, Jan 6, 2011 6:12:46pm |
re: #231 Charles
He just finished reading ‘To Kill a Mockingbird’. He’s probably studying up on tried and true methods of race-baiting.
He has a lot to learn from Atticus.
| 241 |
Linden Arden Thu, Jan 6, 2011 6:17:47pm |
Has anyone posted this?
Bill O’Reilly tells atheist that God exists because no one can explain how ocean tides work
| 242 |
Decatur Deb Thu, Jan 6, 2011 6:20:51pm |
re: #37 Rightwingconspirator
The Navy wanted a new low frequency sonar to find these subs even in shallow waters. However it apparently kills whales big time. So a judge had limited testing.
Another point- The Russians may have shared “walker sub” technology. A spy had sold our best technology for quiet propellers on the subs. Suddenly the Russian subs got much harder to detect. I’d bet the Chinese have that technology.
Don’t think it was a “spy”, IIRC it was Toshiba.
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Dark_Falcon Thu, Jan 6, 2011 6:21:26pm |
re: #240 Stanley Sea
He has a lot to learn from Atticus.
He’s more interested in learning from the prosecutor who race baits to get Tom Robinson convicted of a rape he did not commit. Breitbart is probably annoyed that Robinson refuses to passively accept execution, choosing instead an escape attempt that forces the guards to shoot him.
| 245 |
Political Atheist Thu, Jan 6, 2011 6:22:31pm |
re: #242 Decatur Deb
The spy, Walker revealed how vulnerable they were. Then they went after the technology to be less vulnerable. They had no clue before the spy.
| 246 |
brookly red Thu, Jan 6, 2011 6:23:31pm |
re: #243 BishopX
Uh oh, the moon is a librul plot.
/no, no… the other way around, librulas are lunatics… ;)
| 247 |
tradewind Thu, Jan 6, 2011 6:24:26pm |
Oh dear…. not only does Rep. Anthony Weiner refer to himself in the third person, he actually resorts to ’ Wait for it ’ in an attempt to make his point.
Not since Jamie Gorelick has a public figure been so appropriately named.
| 248 |
tradewind Thu, Jan 6, 2011 6:26:52pm |
re: #243 BishopX
Oh, way bigger than a mere plot. At least a section.
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Bubblehead II Thu, Jan 6, 2011 6:27:02pm |
re: #242 Decatur Deb
Don’t think it was a “spy”, IIRC it was Toshiba.
It was . They sold the Soviets the vertical milling machines needed to produce the quieter props.
“In 1987, Toshiba Machine, a subsidiary of Toshiba, was accused of illegally selling CNC milling machines used to produce very quiet submarine propellers to the Soviet Union in violation of the CoCom agreement, an international embargo on certain countries to COMECON countries. The Toshiba-Kongsberg scandal involved a subsidiary of Toshiba and the Norwegian company Kongsberg Vaapenfabrikk. The incident strained relations between the United States and Japan, and resulted in the arrest and prosecution of two senior executives, as well as the imposition of sanctions on the company by both countries.[4] The US had always relied on the fact that the Soviets had noisy boats, so technology that would make the USSR’s submarines harder to detect created a significant threat to America’s security. Senator John Heinz of Pennsylvania said “What Toshiba and Kongsberg did was ransom the security of the United States for $517 million.”
The Bubblehead II family doesn’t knowing buy Toshiba products to this day.
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Decatur Deb Thu, Jan 6, 2011 6:27:09pm |
re: #245 Rightwingconspirator
The spy, Walker revealed how vulnerable they were. Then they went after the technology to be less vulnerable. They had no clue before the spy.
Yup. Then Toshiba sold them the machining methods. They’re on my list.
| 251 |
Bubblehead II Thu, Jan 6, 2011 6:27:58pm |
re: #245 Rightwingconspirator
The spy, Walker revealed how vulnerable they were. Then they went after the technology to be less vulnerable. They had no clue before the spy.
This is also true.
| 253 |
Bubblehead II Thu, Jan 6, 2011 6:32:04pm |
re: #252 Decatur Deb
We’ve got a two-shopper boycott.
Assholes put me and my Shipmates life on the line. I think I have a valid reason not to purchase their products.
| 254 |
Decatur Deb Thu, Jan 6, 2011 6:34:12pm |
re: #253 Bubblehead II
Assholes put me and my Shipmates life on the line. I think I have a valid reason not to purchase their products.
Wasn’t joking—there’s a lot of stuff I don’t buy if I can sort out the pukes that make it.
| 255 |
Dark_Falcon Thu, Jan 6, 2011 6:34:20pm |
re: #249 Bubblehead II
True. The results are still felt today, as the Russians have finally started launching new nuclear subs again. The new class of cruise missile sub (with 1 complete and another building) are extremely quiet at low speed.
| 256 |
Decatur Deb Thu, Jan 6, 2011 6:36:50pm |
re: #200 PT Barnum
Until they attacked you, thus starting the Boxer Rebelllion, or a Brief Uprising
That’s not the same as the Thong Wars, is it?
| 257 |
tradewind Thu, Jan 6, 2011 6:38:08pm |
re: #233 Dark_Falcon
Not having any insight into the mind of BB, I would bet he’s reaching for the Radley-as-recluse/collector angle.
Operative word there ’ reaching ‘.
| 258 |
Dark_Falcon Thu, Jan 6, 2011 6:39:52pm |
re: #257 tradewind
Not having any insight into the mind of BB, I would bet he’s reaching for the Radley-as-recluse/collector angle.
Operative word there ’ reaching ‘.
Good catch. That’s a major reach, but it would at least be defensible.
| 259 |
tradewind Thu, Jan 6, 2011 6:43:34pm |
re: #239 Bubblehead II
Fried Twinkies are for wusses.
You have to live dangerously and go for the State Fair deep fried butter.
[Link: www.google.com…]
Yeah, it’s not a misprint.
| 260 |
tradewind Thu, Jan 6, 2011 6:46:05pm |
Great meal, but there’s that yawning dishwasher ….
Night.
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Bubblehead II Thu, Jan 6, 2011 7:33:31pm |
re: #254 Decatur Deb
Works for me. I remember when this first came out. The Navy Exchange pulled anything and everything that had to do with Toshiba off the shelves.
| 262 |
Bubblehead II Thu, Jan 6, 2011 7:38:12pm |
re: #259 tradewind
gaaaaaaahhhhhhh. I like butter, in fact it is the only thing I will cook with, but that is just totally disgusting.
| 263 |
Bubblehead II Thu, Jan 6, 2011 7:43:48pm |
| 264 |
SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Jan 6, 2011 7:45:05pm |
re: #241 Linden Arden
Has anyone posted this?
Bill O’Reilly tells atheist that God exists because no one can explain how ocean tides work
Speaking as a believer, that seems like a terrible thing to stake your belief in God on. What happens when we figure the tides out?
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