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1 albusteve  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:04:00pm

oh no…

2 Stan the Demanded Plan  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:04:29pm

I can bet you a pile of money it’s going to be different than the shit we’ve read the last few days. Thank dog.

3 albusteve  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:05:03pm

I hope the spectacle is not larger than the message

4 prairiefire  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:05:10pm

Thanks, Charles.

5 Charles Johnson  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:05:27pm

Aaron Copeland is an excellent opener.

6 Alexzander  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:05:33pm

re: #3 albusteve

Agreed.

7 prairiefire  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:05:34pm

re: #3 albusteve

I hope the spectacle is not larger than the message

Copeland sounds large.

8 Charles Johnson  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:05:50pm

Sorry, I mean ‘Copland.’

9 brookly red  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:06:13pm

re: #2 Stanley Sea

I can bet you a pile of money it’s going to be different than the shit we’ve read the last few days. Thank dog.

I can bet you a pile of money it will be called one of the greatest speeches in history… nice music so far.

10 Gus  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:06:19pm

re: #2 Stanley Sea

I can bet you a pile of money it’s going to be different than the shit we’ve read the last few days. Thank dog.

Seriously. I hope so and think it will. I trust Obama will hit the right tone.

11 Alexzander  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:06:21pm

Is the Copeland piece famous for being featured in a particular film or anything like that? Not sure where I know it from.

12 sattv4u2  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:06:26pm

Thanks Charles

President Obama,,, Americans of all stripes are with you today!

13 Decatur Deb  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:07:40pm

re: #11 Alexzander

Is the Copeland piece famous for being featured in a particular film or anything like that? Not sure where I know it from.

He paraphrased himself in “Rodeo” IIRC.

14 elizajane  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:07:47pm

re: #3 albusteve

I hope the spectacle is not larger than the message

He’s already been to visit the victims and the families of the deceased, and spent some time at Giffords’ bedside with her husband. Quiet and personal before doing the public stuff. That’s a good message right there.

15 prairiefire  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:07:55pm

re: #12 sattv4u2

Thanks Charles

President Obama,,, Americans of all stripes are with you today!

{{satt}} Give this hippie a hug.

16 Stan the Demanded Plan  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:08:13pm

marcambinder

Trumpets and timpani of Copeland’s “Fanfare for the Common Man” set the tone of the service.

17 sattv4u2  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:08:46pm

re: #15 prairiefire

{{satt}} Give this hippie a hug.

At least buy me dinner 1st ,,, flowers ,, a card ,, SOMETHING!!

18 Charles Johnson  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:09:15pm

This is going to drive the wingnuts crazy.

19 Alexzander  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:09:20pm

How moderated do you think these opening remarks are?

20 Charles Johnson  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:09:27pm

(A short drive.)

21 Stan the Demanded Plan  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:09:34pm

Takes us back to the place we should be. The sadness, the loss.

22 sattv4u2  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:09:48pm

re: #18 Charles

This is going to drive the wingnuts crazy.

One can’t be driven to where one already is!

23 Alexzander  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:10:03pm

re: #18 Charles

Hahaha, absolutely.

24 Stan the Demanded Plan  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:10:07pm

davidnakamura

Obama sitting next to #giffords intern Daniel Hernandez, who aided her at shooting scene #memorial

25 Decatur Deb  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:10:48pm

re: #18 Charles

This is going to drive the wingnuts crazy.

“He’s not Kenyan, he’s Kiowa”

26 Gus  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:10:55pm

re: #22 sattv4u2

One can’t be driven to where one already is!

You speak wisely He Who Walks With Chestnuts.

27 SpaceJesus  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:11:08pm

what is this witchcraft?!

-republicans

28 Stan the Demanded Plan  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:11:30pm

re: #26 Gus 802

This speaker just gave you the go-ahead for humor. OK

29 Alexzander  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:11:32pm

Who was it that said recently that Obama wanted to give America back to the first nations as our new overlords?

30 prairiefire  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:11:38pm

tears.

31 Stan the Demanded Plan  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:11:51pm

First speaker is Dr. Carlos Gonzales, who offers a Native American blessing

32 sattv4u2  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:12:39pm

re: #26 Gus 802

You speak wisely He Who Walks With Chestnuts.

I once had chestnuts roasting on an open fire!
Thats what I get for falling asleep too close to the campfire!

33 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:12:41pm

Winger reaction to the native blessing:


THEY’RE NOT CHRISTIAN

Youtube Video

//

34 Charles Johnson  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:13:01pm

Sure enough. They’re going crazy on Twitter about the applause.

35 Cineaste  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:13:07pm

OT: man arrested for threatening to kill a seattle democratic congressman and it’s pretty clear who this guy listens to on the radio (hint: it’s not NPR):

[Link: www.seattlepi.com…]

36 Alexzander  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:13:43pm

re: #34 Charles

Any good hash tags to follow?

37 Charles Johnson  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:14:15pm

re: #36 Alexzander

Any good hash tags to follow?

#tcot is the center of bad craziness, always.

38 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:14:36pm

Oh and since he pronounced Tucson correctly and spoke of it as his people’s land I am sure he’s gonna get major shit.

39 Cineaste  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:15:07pm

re: #37 Charles

#tcot is the center of bad craziness, always.

#TCOT = Total Crazy On Twitter…

40 Stan the Demanded Plan  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:15:23pm

WestWingReport

Besides Rep. Giffords, Obama also met w/her staff & families, first responders etc. 80-90 people altogether, White House says

41 Charles Johnson  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:15:29pm

Somebody really should tell the college students to knock it off, though.

42 wrenchwench  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:15:31pm

re: #34 Charles

Sure enough. They’re going crazy on Twitter about the applause.

Not a somber crowd. Dr. Gonzales’s Mexican heritage was greeted warmly, to say the least.

43 Cineaste  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:16:07pm

At the risk of being crass, this guy needs to loosen his belt. That’s not a good look…

44 Alexzander  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:16:25pm

Yeah the constant cheering as if this is a concert is a little embarrassing.

45 Stan the Demanded Plan  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:16:35pm

I guess the program is called “Together we Thrive”

Thrive on!

46 albusteve  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:16:44pm

re: #43 Cineaste

At the risk of being crass, this guy needs to loosen his belt. That’s not a good look…

yeah right

47 prairiefire  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:16:45pm

The right better not start to bitch about positive push back to tragedy.

48 abolitionist  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:16:45pm

Found a related article: Obama visits Giffords, others at Arizona hospital

TUCSON, Ariz. (AP) - President Barack Obama flew to Arizona Wednesday and headed straight to Rep. Gabrielle Giffords’ bedside to pay his respects to the wounded lawmaker as he sought to unify a mourning nation.
[snip]
49 Cineaste  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:16:54pm

re: #44 Alexzander

Yeah the constant cheering as if this is a concert is a little embarrassing.

*this*

50 MinisterO  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:17:10pm

re: #18 Charles

This is going to drive the wingnuts crazy.

I really can’t wait to see how they’ll spin it this time. Will they find a cause for outrage? Or will it be that Obama is out of touch with the average American? Maybe they’ll say it was boring, a failure to use this opportunity. Who knows? So exciting.

51 moderatelyradicalliberal  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:17:42pm

re: #25 Decatur Deb

Actually, President Obama was adopted into the Crow Nation. I believe his name is Barack Black Eagle.

Isn’t that cool? :)

52 Stan the Demanded Plan  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:17:47pm

daveweigel

Just read POTUS speech. You’ll remember why a bunch of people voted for him. /SPOILER
2 minutes ago via Echofon

53 Lidane  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:17:59pm

We’ve finally come full circle, and they’re now blaming the victim:

Tucson Tea Party Founder Blames Giffords For Getting Shot: ‘The Real Case Is That She Had No Security’

54 prairiefire  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:18:51pm

re: #52 Stanley Sea

daveweigel

Just read POTUS speech. You’ll remember why a bunch of people voted for him. /SPOILER
2 minutes ago via Echofon

from weigel no less.

55 Fozzie Bear  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:19:04pm

re: #20 Charles

(A short drive.)

lol

56 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:19:17pm

re: #53 Lidane

We’ve finally come full circle, and they’re now blaming the victim:

Tucson Tea Party Founder Blames Giffords For Getting Shot: ‘The Real Case Is That She Had No Security’

not surprised, it seems part of being a conservative to blame the victim these days.

57 Decatur Deb  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:19:24pm

re: #51 moderatelyradicalliberal

Actually, President Obama was adopted into the Crow Nation. I believe his name is Barack Black Eagle.

Isn’t that cool? :)

Triple citizenship again?

58 Charles Johnson  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:19:32pm

David Corn also tweeted that the conclusion of Obama’s speech is a stunner.

59 moderatelyradicalliberal  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:19:39pm

re: #53 Lidane

Fuck these people.

60 SpaceJesus  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:20:02pm

re: #53 Lidane

We’ve finally come full circle, and they’re now blaming the victim:

Tucson Tea Party Founder Blames Giffords For Getting Shot: ‘The Real Case Is That She Had No Security’

if only the 9 year old had a gun this never would have happened

-the nra

61 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:20:21pm

hopefully he gets up there soon, want to hear his speech but will most likely be driving home, unless it’s on NPR and someone knows the channel for the LA NPR.

62 wrenchwench  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:20:46pm

I’ll have to read it later.

Adios, lizards.

63 Fozzie Bear  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:20:52pm

re: #44 Alexzander

College students. Probably many drunk. What can you do?

64 Decatur Deb  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:21:30pm

re: #61 Dreggas

hopefully he gets up there soon, want to hear his speech but will most likely be driving home, unless it’s on NPR and someone knows the channel for the LA NPR.

89.3

65 Bubblehead II  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:21:43pm

re: #60 SpaceJesus

if only the 9 year old had a gun this never would have happened

-the nra

Out of line. One doesn’t expect a 9 yr old to defend herself.

66 SpaceJesus  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:21:48pm

re: #63 Fozzie Bear

I know one person there right now. He might be, actually.

67 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:21:49pm

re: #64 Decatur Deb

89.3

Los angeles?

68 recusancy  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:21:58pm

re: #61 Dreggas

hopefully he gets up there soon, want to hear his speech but will most likely be driving home, unless it’s on NPR and someone knows the channel for the LA NPR.

[Link: www.npr.org…]

69 Stan the Demanded Plan  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:22:01pm

hero

70 albusteve  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:22:24pm

re: #62 wrenchwench

I’ll have to read it later.

Adios, lizards.

resent them, and move on

71 Decatur Deb  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:22:27pm

re: #67 Dreggas

Los angeles?

Yeah per the googles—KPCC

72 SpaceJesus  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:22:44pm

re: #65 Bubblehead II


parodying the nra’s platform that if everyone had a gun then less gun crime would happen.

73 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:23:05pm

re: #71 Decatur Deb

Yeah per the googles—KPCC

thanks.

74 Stan the Demanded Plan  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:23:20pm

Old school to be somber.

Thrive on.

75 prairiefire  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:23:22pm

re: #61 Dreggas

hopefully he gets up there soon, want to hear his speech but will most likely be driving home, unless it’s on NPR and someone knows the channel for the LA NPR.

Look on the lower part of the dial 85-95.

76 Bubblehead II  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:23:41pm

re: #72 SpaceJesus

parodying the nra’s platform that if everyone had a gun then less gun crime would happen.

Still not appropriate.

77 Cineaste  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:23:46pm

I always find it strange the way we need to write a narrative about such events and part of that narrative must be a hero who we rally around. Not that this guy didn’t do great things, just interesting the mythic pedestal that gets constructed.

78 moderatelyradicalliberal  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:24:04pm

re: #57 Decatur Deb

LOL!

It was really sweet. He has Crow “parents” and he said he liked the idea of having parents again. And then joked that he couldn’t have another wife though.

79 prairiefire  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:24:04pm

re: #74 Stanley Sea

Old school to be somber.

Thrive on.

We will be jubilant and triumphant in the face of threats and intimidation!

80 Cineaste  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:24:18pm

re: #76 Bubblehead II

Still not appropriate.

Lighten up, Francis.

81 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:24:36pm

re: #65 Bubblehead II

Out of line. One doesn’t expect a 9 yr old to defend herself.

One doesn’t expect people to blame a shooting victim for having been shot.

82 albusteve  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:24:39pm

re: #74 Stanley Sea

Old school to be somber.

Thrive on.

crank up some Stones!

83 moderatelyradicalliberal  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:25:43pm

re: #77 Cineaste

I like having a big, gay, Latino hero.

84 Stan the Demanded Plan  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:25:45pm

pwire

Find a television to watch Obama’s speech. I promise you will want to see this one.

85 Alexzander  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:26:00pm

re: #77 Cineaste

I always find it strange the way we need to write a narrative about such events and part of that narrative must be a hero who we rally around. Not that this guy didn’t do great things, just interesting the mythic pedestal that gets constructed.

Some deep collective psychology at play there.

86 Cineaste  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:26:42pm

re: #83 moderatelyradicalliberal

I like having a big, gay, Latino hero.

Definitely not knocking the guy. What he did is amazing and he deserves to be looked up to. It’s extra sweet that he’s latino and gay. Just interesting the way we narrate these events for ourselves.

87 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:26:48pm

uh oh he said E Pluribus Unum….

88 Political Atheist  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:27:16pm

We are all Tusconians, we are all Arizonans, we are all Americans.

You rock Daniel Hernandez.

89 Fozzie Bear  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:27:17pm

this is the kind of celebration of selfless acts we need. i love this guy.

fuck that guy with the gun. this is about humans being human.

90 prairiefire  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:27:28pm

omg, I love him.

91 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:27:38pm

re: #86 Cineaste

Definitely not knocking the guy. What he did is amazing and he deserves to be looked up to. It’s extra sweet that he’s latino and gay. Just interesting the way we narrate these events for ourselves.

I think it’s the way we tell a story. There has to be a protagonist. It’s unsettling when someone messes with that.

92 Linden Arden  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:27:40pm

re: #58 Charles

David Corn also tweeted that the conclusion of Obama’s speech is a stunner.

Wow. Corn and Weigel.

I wish for a less harsh tone but do not expect such from Beck, Limbaugh, Boortz, and Hannity.

They traffic in lies to fulfill ad quotas.

93 SpaceJesus  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:27:53pm

this guy rules

94 Bubblehead II  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:28:05pm

re: #80 Cineaste

Lighten up, Francis.

Nope, not going to happen. Not when a defenseless 9 yo was killed.

95 Fozzie Bear  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:28:28pm

omg i think i just went gay for this guy. thats how awesome he is.

96 Stan the Demanded Plan  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:28:40pm

pwire

Find a television to watch Obama’s speech. I promise you will want to see this one.

97 Charles Johnson  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:29:33pm

Great speech. I’m changing my mind about the applause, too. It’s as if Tucson is giving a big middle finger to the vicious killer.

98 Stan the Demanded Plan  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:30:04pm

Hell, they are cheering Brewer. enuf said.

99 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:30:08pm

wow not even one republican mentioned by Brewer when thanking people for coming…

100 moderatelyradicalliberal  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:30:08pm

re: #86 Cineaste

I think whenever there is a bad guy, we want a good guy. I’d like to think that I could make myself useful in a situation like this, but I have no idea of knowing and don’t even want to find out. Plus, a lot of people are saying what he did may have saved her life. He kept her from chocking on her own blood and kept pressure on the wound.

101 Political Atheist  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:30:38pm

re: #60 SpaceJesus

Wrong timing, at the least.

102 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:31:03pm

Brewer is being classy, she just lost the wingnut vote…

103 Stan the Demanded Plan  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:31:24pm

WestWingReport

This Daniel Hernandez is a fine young man - and whether he likes the moniker or not - he is indeed a hero

104 Political Atheist  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:31:25pm

re: #77 Cineaste

Coping tools.

105 recusancy  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:31:27pm

re: #99 Dreggas

wow not even one republican mentioned by Brewer when thanking people for coming…

Boehner’s having cocktails in DC

106 Charles Johnson  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:31:49pm

I almost don’t believe the sheer ugliness that’s pouring out of #tcot. Except that I do believe it, unfortunately.

107 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:31:57pm

Hot Air readers are claiming Brewer was being booed. I didn’t hear it.

108 Gus  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:32:07pm

Think I’ll go watch this in private.

109 shai_au  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:32:19pm

Some of the live memorial comments over at Hot Air are truly disgusting. Shameful.

110 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:32:39pm

re: #105 recusancy

Boehner’s having cocktails in DC

I heard that. My jaw literally dropped hearing that no important republican, not even the states senators, were attending. It’s just incredible.

111 moderatelyradicalliberal  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:32:39pm

re: #105 recusancy

Oh come on. He choked up on the House floor. What more do you want?

///

112 Charles Johnson  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:32:46pm

re: #107 Killgore Trout

Hot Air readers are claiming Brewer was being booed. I didn’t hear it.

I didn’t hear boos.

113 Fozzie Bear  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:32:49pm

re: #102 Dreggas

The GOP needs to tear itself in half. It will happen, because it’s the only way to make a home for moderates. Republicans are starting to ‘pick sides’. This could be the political catharsis the GOP needs to clean house.

God I hope so.

114 albusteve  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:32:49pm

re: #105 recusancy

Boehner’s having cocktails in DC

why not?
have a drink…

115 moderatelyradicalliberal  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:33:10pm

re: #110 Dreggas

John Kyle is there. I saw him.

116 Fozzie Bear  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:33:33pm

I have the sound way up, on very good speakers. There were no boos.

117 avanti  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:33:35pm

re: #109 shai_au

Some of the live memorial comments over at Hot Air are truly disgusting. Shameful.

Yea, the comments like the singer of the anthem looked like he just rolled out of a bar are typical.

118 Stan the Demanded Plan  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:33:41pm

re: #114 albusteve

why not?
have a drink…

Don’t you worry Steve.

119 Jadespring  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:33:56pm

re: #100 moderatelyradicalliberal

I think whenever there is a bad guy, we want a good guy. I’d like to think that I could make myself useful in a situation like this, but I have no idea of knowing and don’t even want to find out. Plus, a lot of people are saying what he did may have saved her life. He kept her from chocking on her own blood and kept pressure on the wound.

You’d probably be surprised what you are capable of. I hope you are never put in a situation where you have to find out though.

Seriously though, everyone should get some basic first aid training and repeat it every so often. In an emergency it’s amazing what you end up remembering. If you have it in there somewhere already, it comes automatically.

At least that’s what I’ve found.

120 moderatelyradicalliberal  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:33:56pm

re: #112 Charles

I didn’t either.

121 albusteve  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:34:47pm

re: #118 Stanley Sea

Don’t you worry Steve.

nothing to worry about here

122 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:35:29pm

re: #109 shai_au

Some of the live memorial comments over at Hot Air are truly disgusting. Shameful.

Oh, how cute. From Hot Air:

But I can’t say I’m cheered by the overt “branding,” replete with … souvenir t-shirts? It may not be the White House that’s behind it, but then, we no longer need facts to blame politicians for stuff they didn’t do.

123 Lidane  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:35:30pm

Uh-oh. She’s quoting Lincoln. Watch the neo-Confederate yahoos call her a RINO now.

124 moderatelyradicalliberal  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:35:57pm

re: #119 Jadespring

I’ll just pray that I will always be surprised at what I’m capable of in a good way.

125 Stan the Demanded Plan  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:36:06pm

This is making me feel all bipartisany

126 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:36:16pm

re: #115 moderatelyradicalliberal

John Kyle is there. I saw him.

Good.

127 Decatur Deb  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:36:38pm

Cool if a re-birth of sanity began to ripple out of Arizona.

128 Lidane  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:36:47pm

Lots of cheers for Janet Napolitano. Heads are no doubt asploding on Twitter right now.

129 SpaceJesus  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:37:04pm

Oh here comes the winger splurge

130 brookly red  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:37:09pm

not feeling Janet… sorry

131 MarkAM  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:37:21pm

re: #125 Stanley Sea

She wasn’t bad. Got a little overly-God-God-God and incoherent at the end, but the overall message was creditable.

132 Fozzie Bear  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:37:35pm

re: #125 Stanley Sea

This is making me feel all bipartisany

This is why I hope Obama gives a GREAT speech. The country desperately needs a “holy crap we are all Americans” moment right now.

133 Fozzie Bear  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:38:18pm

re: #130 brookly red

not feeling Janet… sorry

She’s a little dry, but boring is ok. I like boring. I miss boring politics.

134 SpaceJesus  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:38:59pm

re: #130 brookly red


don’t wanna wait until she’s more than 15 seconds in?

135 Stan the Demanded Plan  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:39:03pm

WestWingReport

A company called “Risk Management” on site in Tucson says crowd size indoors 14,300; overflow in football stadium: 10,000

136 Cineaste  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:39:05pm

re: #94 Bubblehead II

Nope, not going to happen. Not when a defenseless 9 yo was killed.

Nobody was actually suggesting that a child should have to defend themselves.

Personally, I wonder if maybe that clip had been normal sized and not oversized this sick asshole would have run out of ammo before he turned the gun on that poor child. We just don’t know. But the NRA is sure as shit going to defend his right to have all those extra bullets just in case he needs ‘em. That was the point of the comment.

137 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:39:20pm

re: #131 MarkAM

She wasn’t bad. Got a little overly-God-God-God and incoherent at the end, but the overall message was creditable.

re: #125 Stanley Sea

This is making me feel all bipartisany

She mentioned god… there goes that bipartisany.

138 brookly red  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:39:22pm

re: #133 Fozzie Bear

She’s a little dry, but boring is ok. I like boring. I miss boring politics.

she is doing OK here & now…

139 Surabaya Stew  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:39:30pm

re: #130 brookly red

not feeling Janet… sorry

Don’t be sorry, I don’t feel Janet either; its what I have a spouse for.

:-D

140 charlz  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:39:39pm

re: #131 MarkAM

She wasn’t bad. Got a little overly-God-God-God and incoherent at the end, but the overall message was creditable.

Is PBS delayed broadcast? She isn’t done yet.

141 Stan the Demanded Plan  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:40:08pm

re: #140 charlz

Talking about Gov. Brewer.

142 Fozzie Bear  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:40:28pm

re: #140 charlz

Yeah we must be seeing different fees now. Holder is JUST taking podium here.

143 Fozzie Bear  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:40:37pm

re: #142 Fozzie Bear

*feeds

144 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:40:43pm

I don;t think a college audience was the best choice for this event.

145 Stan the Demanded Plan  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:40:50pm

And #tcot EXPLODES

146 prairiefire  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:40:51pm

ABC just broke programming for it

147 MarkAM  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:41:09pm

re: #137 Walter L. Newton

Mentioning God is one thing. A whole lotta God is too much for me.

148 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:41:29pm

re: #144 Killgore Trout

although it’s a nice touch to see a prayer get applause instead of the usual mumbles of “amen”.

149 Fozzie Bear  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:41:35pm

This is a bit much churchyness for me.

150 Lidane  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:41:39pm

Hmm. Even a postive response for Eric Holder. More heads asploding.

I hope that Obama’s speech is a barn burner. The rage from the right that will follow it will be epic.

151 Linden Arden  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:41:52pm

Rudy Guiliani is getting a little jealous now.

152 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:42:06pm

re: #147 MarkAM

Mentioning God is one thing. A whole lotta God is too much for me.

You’ll survive.

153 major tom  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:42:07pm

I wonder what the costs of managing the President’s personal security in Arizona compares to the costs incurred when he visits Iraq.

154 brookly red  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:42:11pm

re: #147 MarkAM

Mentioning God is one thing. A whole lotta God is too much for me.

well look, it is a memorial service

155 Lidane  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:42:12pm

Oops. Sorry for the double post!

156 MarkAM  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:42:20pm

And Holder reading Paul…meh.

157 Fozzie Bear  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:42:23pm

re: #151 Linden Arden

9-11 !!!

158 Stan the Demanded Plan  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:42:31pm

re: #147 MarkAM

Mentioning God is one thing. A whole lotta God is too much for me.

re: #149 Fozzie Bear

This is a bit much churchyness for me.

Me too, but this keeps it apolitical, and on point as a “memorial”

Waiting for President Obama.

159 Cineaste  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:42:31pm

re: #100 moderatelyradicalliberal

I think whenever there is a bad guy, we want a good guy. I’d like to think that I could make myself useful in a situation like this, but I have no idea of knowing and don’t even want to find out. Plus, a lot of people are saying what he did may have saved her life. He kept her from chocking on her own blood and kept pressure on the wound.

It’s an interesting subject for me. I was once, in a very different situation, in a similar position where I helped someone who was in incredible danger. They viewed me as the person who saved them, something which I doubted given the nature of their injury and the treatment I could muster, but it really messed with my head over the years trying to deal with the emotions of having that role projected on you.

160 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:42:35pm

Meanwhile in Florida

161 MarkAM  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:42:54pm

re: #152 Walter L. Newton

For the time being, yeah.

162 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:42:57pm

re: #145 Stanley Sea

And #tcot EXPLODES

NEO CONSERVATISM IS ABOUT TO


E*P*L*O*D*E

163 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:43:00pm

re: #149 Fozzie Bear

This is a bit much churchyness for me.

It is a memorial thing. Prayers are standard stuff.

164 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:43:02pm

re: #156 MarkAM

And Holder reading Paul…meh.

Turn it off.

165 brookly red  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:43:12pm

re: #150 Lidane

Hmm. Even a postive response for Eric Holder. More heads asploding.

I hope that Obama’s speech is a barn burner. The rage from the right that will follow it will be epic.

don’t worry, CNN has already called it “monumental”

166 Fozzie Bear  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:43:15pm

re: #158 Stanley Sea

re: #149 Fozzie Bear

Me too, but this keeps it apolitical, and on point as a “memorial”

Waiting for President Obama.

Yes. I don’t mind it too much. If this calms people down, i’m all for it.

167 moderatelyradicalliberal  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:43:16pm

re: #149 Fozzie Bear

I’m not minding the churchyness so much.

168 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:43:29pm

re: #149 Fozzie Bear

This is a bit much churchyness for me.

I don’t care for the applause.

I can handle the churchiness.

169 albusteve  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:43:53pm

re: #144 Killgore Trout

I don;t think a college audience was the best choice for this event.

me neither….bad move

170 Charles Johnson  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:44:04pm

Wingnuts now complaining that we didn’t have a service like this for the Fort Hood shootings.

171 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:44:15pm

re: #161 MarkAM

For the time being, yeah.

I’m getting concerned. Maybe you need an exorcism. Get rid of all those god cooties. I make house calls.

172 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:44:21pm

re: #145 Stanley Sea

And #tcot EXPLODES

Actual photography of angry #tcot tweeters

173 zora  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:44:25pm

amazing introduction.

174 charlz  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:44:31pm

re: #165 brookly red

don’t worry, CNN has already called it “monumental”

And I bet he wrote it himself, too. I love that in a President.

175 SpaceJesus  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:44:37pm

The UoA president is kind of encouraging the students somewhat in his tone

176 Major Tom  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:44:56pm

He’s grey’d a bit.

177 Stan the Demanded Plan  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:45:09pm

ha ha ha

suck it tcot

178 MarkAM  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:45:12pm

re: #171 Walter L. Newton

LOL and you were just starting to tick me off…first time you’ve gone after me. I’ll count it as a blessing.

179 Fozzie Bear  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:45:12pm

Oh shit shut up kids!

180 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:45:14pm

More actual footage of #tcot tweeters

181 ProBosniaLiberal  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:45:26pm

Churchiness doesn’t bother me. In fact, I think I like it to point. Though the rambucious college students bother me.

182 brookly red  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:45:31pm

re: #170 Charles

Wingnuts now complaining that we didn’t have a service like this for the Fort Hood shootings.

well, we didn’t…

183 MarkAM  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:45:39pm

G’night. I’m gonna watch it on the teevee.

184 Jadespring  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:45:41pm

How do I see a twitter feed again. Without being on twitter?

185 researchok  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:45:52pm

re: #170 Charles

Wingnuts now complaining that we didn’t have a service like this for the Fort Hood shootings.

We did.

And Obama was most moving. Remember the coins- how hew took a a moment in front of each picture of the victims?

Extraordinary, really.

186 SpaceJesus  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:45:59pm

the woo woo shit needs to stop in a big way

187 Surabaya Stew  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:46:09pm

re: #160 WindUpBird

Meanwhile in Florida

I like 2 of the other stories on there:

“Family: Mortuary Treated Woman’s Body Like Dead “Meat”

“Florida Professor Arrested for Having a ‘Suspicious’ Bagel on a Plane”


What is it about Florida that makes for such oddness?

188 Stan the Demanded Plan  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:46:10pm

re: #184 Jadespring

no can do, well kinda. sign up!

189 Bubblehead II  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:46:25pm

re: #136 Cineaste

Let’s just agree to disagree. I found SJ’s comment to be inappropriate and I made that apparent. Nothing more.

190 moderatelyradicalliberal  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:46:59pm

re: #159 Cineaste

I actually think bravery is a gift, like singing or being good at math. It makes sense that people who are brave feel embarrassed by all of the attention they might get because to them it was a natural response. When it comes to the “flight or fight” response, we admire the fighters. Whatever the situation was, you probably could have run away or looked for someone else to help, but you didn’t. And it’s a more rare response than you may know.

191 Fozzie Bear  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:47:00pm

The applause is starting to piss me off for some reason.

192 albusteve  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:47:05pm

re: #186 SpaceJesus

the woo woo shit needs to stop in a big way

thrive on!

193 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:47:21pm

I notice Tammy Bruce is doing her best song and dance on twitter [Link: twitter.com…]

Look at me! I’m the bronze medal Ann Coulter!

194 Surabaya Stew  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:47:28pm

re: #170 Charles

Wingnuts now complaining that we didn’t have a service like this for the Fort Hood shootings.

Well of course we didn’t; where was President Palin leading the bedside excution of Major Hassan before the prayer ceremony?
///

195 recusancy  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:47:30pm

re: #191 Fozzie Bear

The applause is starting to piss me off for some reason.

Me too.

196 Stan the Demanded Plan  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:47:33pm

re: #192 albusteve

thrive on!

:) stevie

197 Girth  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:47:37pm

Just like a sekrit Moozlim to reference Scripture.
///

198 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:47:43pm

re: #178 MarkAM

LOL and you were just starting to tick me off…first time you’ve gone after me. I’ll count it as a blessing.

Hmmmm… first time… how did I miss you… let me check my list… I see the mistake… I had your name listed as Make Um… easy mistake.

199 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:47:47pm

re: #182 brookly red

well, we didn’t…

Obama went and spoke.

And in this case, one of the dead is a federal judge, and a Congresswoman was wounded.

200 moderatelyradicalliberal  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:47:47pm

re: #173 zora

Yeah, I liked it too.

201 Jadespring  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:47:54pm

re: #188 Stanley Sea

no can do, well kinda. sign up!

I have seen them before. I just can’t remember the site or feed thingy I did it on. :( I just remember you could make different columns for different feeds.

202 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:48:08pm

Tammy Bruce on twitter:

He “kneels to pray with us today” And will “stand by you tomorrow” Because of course this is all about him
less than 5 seconds ago via web
He’s already got the fake accent going! He’s ready!
less than a minute ago via web
I say keep on cheering you ghouls! Keep it going!
1 minute ago via web
Obscene and shocking hooting. it’s like a rock concert. Standing ovation. For what?
1 minute ago via web
Introducing Urkel. Mobama is trying real hard to not smile. Obama’s got the I’m really Serious About This look
2 minutes ago via web
“I think you can see by out program and the reaction of the audience to how deeply we were affected by the tragedy.” Actually, no.
3 minutes ago via web
“This is the Lord’s word.” More applause! Woo hoo!
3 minutes ago via web
Let’s just hope lightning does not strike that arena
4 minutes ago via web
Oh I see! The Obama Admin are the New Priests. Holder also reading fro Bible. Shouldn’t they be reading from Mao’s Little Red Book?
5 minutes ago via web
Eric Holder, the guy suing the pants off the state.
6 minutes ago via web
So we have a Mexican ‘Not a Medicine Man” and Napolitano reading from the Bible? And it gets applause? This is insane.
6 minutes ago via web
I had to walk away. Did Pat get a standing ovation?
7 minutes ago via web
Uh, is Pat trying to sound like she really understands what it is she saying? What is going on here?
7 minutes ago via web
Oh great Napolitano up next.
10 minutes ago via web
Finally, someone mentions God. Brewer, “May God bless the USA”
10 minutes ago via web

203 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:48:20pm

re: #187 Surabaya Stew

I like 2 of the other stories on there:

“Family: Mortuary Treated Woman’s Body Like Dead “Meat”

“Florida Professor Arrested for Having a ‘Suspicious’ Bagel on a Plane”

What is it about Florida that makes for such oddness?

The humidity?

204 ProBosniaLiberal  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:48:21pm

re: #187 Surabaya Stew

The constant sunniness? Maybe Hurricanes? I’m not sure, but it is seems to be the repository of weird people in the US.

205 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:48:38pm

re: #191 Fozzie Bear

The applause is starting to piss me off for some reason.

I was a little worried when Obama first stepped up but the audience is calming down a little bit.

206 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:48:40pm

re: #191 Fozzie Bear

The applause is starting to piss me off for some reason.

It doesn’t sound like a memorial service.

207 Stan the Demanded Plan  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:48:48pm

re: #202 WindUpBird

SHE IS A FUCKED UP BITCH.

for Palin

208 moderatelyradicalliberal  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:49:08pm

re: #199 SanFranciscoZionist

I think it made sense that a military memorial service would be more austere.

209 brookly red  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:49:12pm

re: #199 SanFranciscoZionist

Obama went and spoke.

And in this case, one of the dead is a federal judge, and a Congresswoman was wounded.

oh yes, my bad they are more important then mere soldiers…

210 KingKenrod  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:49:16pm

re: #193 WindUpBird

I notice Tammy Bruce is doing her best song and dance on twitter [Link: twitter.com…]

Look at me! I’m the bronze medal Ann Coulter!

She’s pathetic.

211 Fozzie Bear  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:49:16pm

re: #202 WindUpBird

These are some ugly, ugly people on tcot.

212 Stan the Demanded Plan  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:49:36pm

re: #210 KingKenrod

She’s pathetic.

For Palin

213 Major Tom  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:50:00pm

The applause seem like their introducing them to come out… It’s just a little inappropriate.

214 Cineaste  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:50:04pm

re: #189 Bubblehead II

Let’s just agree to disagree. I found SJ’s comment to be inappropriate and I made that apparent. Nothing more.

done

*handshake*

215 Charles Johnson  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:50:29pm

The applause is really wrong now.

They need to stop.

216 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:50:30pm

I love Tammy Bruce because she’s sort of what kind of calculating evil nasty person I would be if I had no art skills of any kind and was also just a cynical misanthropic jerk who knew how to manipulate conservatives

Luckily I’m not awful and I have a more fulfilling profession, so I’m not Tammy Bruce!


I kinda watch her “technique” of stoking the crazies and watch for it AS technique, the sorts of skills stand up comics have, the ability to sculpt this stuff and focus it

217 moderatelyradicalliberal  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:50:51pm

re: #202 WindUpBird

What a hateful, awful, bitter bitch. Seriously, who pissed in her Wheaties?

218 Fozzie Bear  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:51:07pm

Ok the applause is now really bothering me. Why would you clap at that moment?

219 Bubblehead II  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:51:38pm

re: #214 Cineaste

done

*handshake*

and done.

220 Stan the Demanded Plan  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:51:50pm

WestWingReport

Some tinge of a campaign event on part of the crowd. But Obama, who usually interacts w/crowds, is not. Instead wearing a somber expression

221 researchok  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:52:03pm

re: #218 Fozzie Bear

Ok the applause is now really bothering me. Why would you clap at that moment?

The constant applause may diminish the impact of the speech.

222 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:52:18pm

re: #209 brookly red

oh yes, my bad they are more important then mere soldiers…

I’m not having this discussion. I’m already getting too pissed.

223 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:52:20pm

re: #210 KingKenrod

She’s pathetic.

Well, that doesn’t really get to the problem

the problem is she’s a talented, smart, clever person who has realized she can do this and so does. And that’s sort of America’s problem, that we have this culture that is so susceptible to this sort of rhetoric.

Not really susceptible. Vulnerable. America has a pervasively compromised immune system for this stuff. We just eat it up.

224 Fozzie Bear  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:52:33pm

re: #221 researchok

yeah, sadly I think it will.

225 jamesfirecat  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:52:46pm

re: #112 Charles

I didn’t hear boos.

Were you chanting “BOO” or “BOO-URNS”?

226 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:52:52pm

re: #218 Fozzie Bear

Ok the applause is now really bothering me. Why would you clap at that moment?

The applause is a minor symptom of the same problem, the politics-as-NFL game

root for our side! root for their side!

227 Stan the Demanded Plan  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:53:04pm

listen.

228 albusteve  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:53:09pm

re: #206 SanFranciscoZionist

It doesn’t sound like a memorial service.

more like a pep rally

229 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:53:20pm

re: #218 Fozzie Bear

Ok the applause is now really bothering me. Why would you clap at that moment?

It’s an audience of college kids, excited to see the president and attend a televised speech. They can’t help it.

230 Fozzie Bear  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:53:24pm

Obama needs to talk over the applause. imo

231 moderatelyradicalliberal  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:53:31pm

Yeah ok, the clapping. Maybe people just don’t know what to do with themselves.

Of course this is nothing compared to the Coretta Scott Kind funeral. You guys should be really glad this isn’t a mostly black crowd. LOL!

232 researchok  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:53:31pm

re: #224 Fozzie Bear

yeah, sadly I think it will.

The rhythm is being mitigated.

233 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:53:33pm

re: #221 researchok

The constant applause may diminish the impact of the speech.

agree wholeheartedly

234 Political Atheist  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:53:38pm

re: #228 albusteve

More like an Irish wake.

235 Decatur Deb  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:53:50pm

The tone of the applause is changing—somber applause.

236 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:53:57pm

re: #230 Fozzie Bear

Obama needs to talk over the applause. imo

I’m in a really bad mood, so if I start getting inflammatory, poke me :D

237 Linden Arden  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:54:04pm

re: #228 albusteve

more like a pep rally

Or an Irish wake.


Believe me - I have been to a few.

238 Stan the Demanded Plan  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:54:10pm

He’s talking about the dead. fuck the applause outrage

239 brookly red  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:54:26pm

re: #222 SanFranciscoZionist

I’m not having this discussion. I’m already getting too pissed.

no need to discuss… it is what it is.

240 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:54:32pm

re: #229 Killgore Trout

It’s an audience of college kids, excited to see the president and attend a televised speech. They can’t help it.

Ahh I didn’t know that

that makes more sense

241 SpaceJesus  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:54:40pm

i cant believe this shit

242 Stan the Demanded Plan  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:54:40pm

THIS

243 Linden Arden  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:54:47pm

re: #234 Rightwingconspirator

More like an Irish wake.

by seconds!

244 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:54:58pm

re: #239 brookly red

no need to discuss… it is what it is.

Yeah. It’s a fucking smear made up to discredit Obama.

245 ProBosniaLiberal  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:55:30pm

re: #202 WindUpBird

Who is the Tammy Bruce? I haven’t heard of her.

246 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:55:40pm

re: #231 moderatelyradicalliberal

Yeah ok, the clapping. Maybe people just don’t know what to do with themselves.

Of course this is nothing compared to the Coretta Scott Kind funeral. You guys should be really glad this isn’t a mostly black crowd. LOL!

I’ve been to wakes with laughter and applause but they were a reaction to the atmosphere and speeches. The Applause, hoot and whistles aren’t really appropriate to the tone of the speeches.

247 Jadespring  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:55:57pm

re: #237 Linden Arden

Or an Irish wake.

Believe me - I have been to a few.

Yeah I was just going to say the same thing. I’ve been to one of those and a service that was more woo yah he rocked (the man that died) then somber. It was really unsettling and not what I was used too.

248 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:56:10pm

re: #245 ProLifeLiberal

Who is the Tammy Bruce? I haven’t heard of her.

Country and Western singer… big hit was “Stand by My Man.”

249 brookly red  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:56:21pm

re: #244 SanFranciscoZionist

Yeah. It’s a fucking smear made up to discredit Obama.

yes of course…

250 Lidane  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:56:26pm

re: #248 Walter L. Newton

That’s Tammy Wynette.

251 Political Atheist  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:56:41pm

re: #243 Linden Arden

GMTA

252 Charles Johnson  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:56:53pm

Wow. Gabby opened her eyes. That’s pretty amazing, just 5 days after being shot through the head.

253 Bubblehead II  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:57:00pm

re: #234 Rightwingconspirator

More like an Irish wake.

Actually, I see it more as a Celebration Of Life.

254 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:57:09pm

re: #250 Lidane

That’s Tammy Wynette.

It was a joke… you missed it.

255 ProBosniaLiberal  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:57:15pm

re: #252 Charles

Yeah, and a good reason to cheer.

256 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:57:27pm

Giffords open her eyes for the first time since the shooting, says Obama. That is very good news and the applause is glorious to hear.

257 jamesfirecat  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:57:44pm

re: #209 brookly red

oh yes, my bad they are more important then mere soldiers…

The people who died in Fort Hood were soldiers… they signed up and agreed to put their lives on the line… they doubtlessly didn’t expect to give their lives for America the way they ended up doing but they were ready for it all the same….

The people who were killed by the shootings in Arizona had no interest in making war… and that is what makes their deaths all the more tragic and regrettable…

258 SpaceJesus  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:57:46pm

are the u of a students gonna rush the stage after this and hang from the podium

259 Political Atheist  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:58:04pm

re: #253 Bubblehead II

I’ll take that.

260 SpaceJesus  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:58:16pm

ok well now the cheering is kinda ok

261 moderatelyradicalliberal  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:58:26pm

re: #245 ProLifeLiberal

Former President of NOW out in LA. Now makes a living as a right wing, pro-gun, lesbian radio host. She also once said the Obamas were “trash in the White House”. She’s quite the charmer and has a major crush on Sarah Palin.

262 brookly red  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:58:36pm

re: #252 Charles

Wow. Gabby opened her eyes. That’s pretty amazing, just 5 days after being shot through the head.

it is indeed…

263 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:59:16pm

re: #257 jamesfirecat

The people who died in Fort Hood were soldiers… they signed up and agreed to put their lives on the line… they doubtlessly didn’t expect to give their lives for America the way they ended up doing but they were ready for it all the same…

The people who were killed by the shootings in Arizona had no interest in making war… and that is what makes their deaths all the more tragic and regrettable…

I don’t think any soldier at Ft. Hood had planned to make war in a cafeteria… on base… in the United States.

264 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:59:29pm

re: #258 SpaceJesus

are the u of a students gonna rush the stage after this and hang from the podium

hahahahah

265 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:59:47pm

re: #258 SpaceJesus

are the u of a students gonna rush the stage after this and hang from the podium

They’ll bring out the prize cannon

266 brookly red  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 5:59:58pm

re: #257 jamesfirecat

The people who died in Fort Hood were soldiers… they signed up and agreed to put their lives on the line… they doubtlessly didn’t expect to give their lives for America the way they ended up doing but they were ready for it all the same…

The people who were killed by the shootings in Arizona had no interest in making war… and that is what makes their deaths all the more tragic and regrettable…

it would have been nice if they had a memorial, just saying.

267 recusancy  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:00:38pm

re: #266 brookly red

it would have been nice if they had a memorial, just saying.

They did.

268 What, me worry?  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:00:50pm

re: #229 Killgore Trout

It’s an audience of college kids, excited to see the president and attend a televised speech. They can’t help it.

I think also it’s also about a release… that city has been suffering for 5 days now, in shock over this. They needed a time to scream and yell. It’s part joy over the president and part release of emotions.

I found myself actually laughing with friends after my father’s memorial service which I thought, myself was inappropriate, but I was happy to have closure.

Same for Obama too, I think.

269 Fozzie Bear  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:00:56pm

re: #258 SpaceJesus

re: #265 WindUpBird

At the end Obama is going to body surf across the crowd.

270 recusancy  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:01:03pm

re: #266 brookly red

it would have been nice if they had a memorial, just saying.

[Link: www.c-spanvideo.org…]

271 Political Atheist  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:01:11pm

If I may repeat my previous request. If you agree write your rep.
All of the people who stepped up deserve our highest award for bravery

272 Girth  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:01:28pm

re: #266 brookly red

it would have been nice if they had a memorial, just saying.

You mean this one?

[Link: www.c-spanvideo.org…]

273 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:01:30pm

re: #260 SpaceJesus

ok well now the cheering is kinda ok

it’s a very strange feeling, because it’s like this release of tension and horror that doesn’t really compute, I cna totally understand though

274 Bubblehead II  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:01:31pm

I find the lone clapping by Pres. Obama to be a bit disconcerting though.

275 Major Tom  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:01:34pm

re: #268 marjoriemoon

That makes a lot of sense.

276 What, me worry?  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:01:40pm

I think he’s being very kind and sincere and he’s connecting with the audience.

277 Jadespring  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:01:44pm

re: #266 brookly red

it would have been nice if they had a memorial, just saying.

Uh… there was one. Obama even spoke at it.

278 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:01:58pm

Here we go.

279 Linden Arden  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:02:04pm

re: #274 Bubblehead II

I find the lone clapping by Pres. Obama to be a bit disconcerting though.

Mike location.

280 Alexzander  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:02:04pm

“…to impose some order on the chaos, to make sense of the senseless.”

281 Reginald Perrin  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:02:19pm

re: #267 recusancy

They did.

Don’t you understand?….the little fella is very very concerned.

282 Charles Johnson  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:02:27pm

re: #266 brookly red

it would have been nice if they had a memorial, just saying.

There was. With a speech by President Obama.

283 albusteve  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:02:27pm

gun safety laws?

284 Lidane  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:02:27pm

re: #277 Jadespring

Pfft. Stop bringing facts into the discussion. They make it harder to demagogue against Obama.

///

285 McSpiff  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:02:27pm

re: #12 sattv4u2

Thanks Charles

President Obama,,, Americans of all stripes are with you today!

Proud to hear you say that satt.

286 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:02:32pm

re: #269 Fozzie Bear

re: #265 WindUpBird

At the end Obama is going to body surf across the crowd.

no no no

he’s gonna leave the stage, and then he’s going to come back with the dudes from Melvins and they’ll bust out a terrifying rendition of “Revolve”

287 jaunte  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:02:53pm

re: #277 Jadespring

Uh… there was one. Obama even spoke at it.

[Link: www.monstersandcritics.com…]

288 Jadespring  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:03:02pm

re: #284 Lidane

Pfft. Stop bringing facts into the discussion. They make it harder to demagogue against Obama.

///

Okay sorry. My bad. :(

289 jamesfirecat  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:03:02pm

re: #263 Walter L. Newton

I don’t think any soldier at Ft. Hood had planned to make war in a cafeteria… on base… in the United States.

They didn’t plan on doing it, but they still signed up to give their lives.

Their deaths were a senseless waste but because they were soldiers it probably doesn’t tug at our heart strings quite as much as when innocent civilians are killed.

I’m not saying if that’s right or wrong, I’m just saying it is how it is… for me at least….

290 recusancy  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:03:05pm

re: #266 brookly red

it would have been nice if they had a memorial, just saying.

It would have been nice if you remembered it.

291 brookly red  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:03:45pm

re: #282 Charles

There was. With a speech by President Obama.

yes true, not with this kind of fanfare though… oh well.

292 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:04:05pm

re: #267 recusancy

They did.

The president spoke.

293 moderatelyradicalliberal  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:04:10pm

re: #266 brookly red

They did. The president spoke at the memorial. All of the soilders who were killed had their boots, helmets and riles up on stage. You can even watch the video on CSPAN.

It was televised and written about. How did you miss that?

294 palomino  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:04:13pm

re: #182 brookly red

well, we didn’t…

do facts matter to you AT ALL?

295 McSpiff  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:04:43pm

re: #291 brookly red

stop embarrassing yourself and just admit you were wrong.

296 Stan the Demanded Plan  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:04:50pm

re: #291 brookly red

yes true, not with this kind of fanfare though… oh well.

Oh just shut up and listen

297 jamesfirecat  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:04:50pm

re: #278 Killgore Trout

Here we go.

////James Fireact unlocked the Achievement Thread-Derailer!

298 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:04:50pm

re: #290 recusancy

It would have been nice if you remembered it.

Oh he doesn’t care! He’s getting his information from talk radio and RW blogs, he’s taking the pre-chewed memes and he’s just repeating them here. I bet the fort hood vs tucson thing is already a giant thing.

299 SpaceJesus  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:05:14pm

any news on fred phelps and his bullcrap?

300 recusancy  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:05:14pm

re: #296 Stanley Sea

Oh just shut up and listen

This.

301 bratwurst  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:05:16pm

re: #266 brookly red

it would have been nice if they had a memorial, just saying.

What part of THEY HAD A MEMORIAL SERVICE AND OBAMA SPOKE THERE FOR 15 minutes is beyond your ability to comprehend?

Youtube Video
302 jamesfirecat  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:05:46pm

re: #291 brookly red

yes true, not with this kind of fanfare though… oh well.

///MORN HARDER YOU BASTARDS MORN HARDER!

303 brookly red  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:05:47pm

re: #296 Stanley Sea

Oh just shut up and listen

rotating title?

304 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:05:50pm

re: #299 SpaceJesus

any news on fred phelps and his bullcrap?

They canceled the protest.

305 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:05:56pm

re: #291 brookly red

yes true, not with this kind of fanfare though… oh well.

There was no memorial!

yeah there was


Yeah but Obama didn’t show up!


yeah he did.

But they didn’t clap as much!


you’re a joke.

306 TedStriker  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:06:15pm

re: #145 Stanley Sea

And #tcot EXPLODES

#tcot can go sit on a sharp stick…

307 moderatelyradicalliberal  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:06:23pm

re: #290 recusancy

I guess it wasn’t really that important to him.

308 spiderx  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:06:32pm

Tammy Bruce figured out that she could make quite a bit of money and get quite a bit of fame if she ramped up the vitriol. She used to be a liberal but I didn’t pay a whole lot.

309 Stan the Demanded Plan  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:06:35pm

TheFix

“What we cannot do is use this tragedy as one more occasion to turn on each other.” — President Obama to HUGE applause.

310 albusteve  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:06:38pm

I love my scroll wheel

311 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:06:45pm

re: #295 McSpiff

stop embarrassing yourself and just admit you were wrong.

Oh come on, if I had motorized goalposts on a truck chassis I could just move wherever I wished, I’D USE THEM TOO! :D

312 Political Atheist  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:06:46pm

“To listen to each other more carefully”
Words to remember.

313 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:07:25pm

re: #310 albusteve

I love my scroll wheel

COTD

314 moderatelyradicalliberal  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:07:40pm

re: #304 Killgore Trout

I wonder if it was the law that was passed or the bikers who will be there? Because I doubt it was human decency, that changed their minds.

315 Bubblehead II  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:07:57pm

re: #268 marjoriemoon

I found myself actually laughing with friends after my father’s memorial service which I thought, myself was inappropriate, but I was happy to have closure.

I know the feeling. When my MIL got the message that her husband had passed away it was hilarious. They didn’t know how to use a cell phone or voice mail. Sad/funny at the same time

316 Reginald Perrin  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:08:21pm

re: #301 bratwurst

What part of THEY HAD A MEMORIAL SERVICE AND OBAMA SPOKE THERE FOR 15 minutes is beyond your ability to comprehend?


[Video]

It wasn’t included in the talking points.

317 Stan the Demanded Plan  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:08:30pm

How well we have loved

318 Dante41  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:08:34pm

Wow. He’s been in office two years and his hair is already turning gray.

319 palomino  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:08:40pm

re: #291 brookly red

yes true, not with this kind of fanfare though… oh well.

Always a knee-jerk qualification from you. You just can’t help yourself, huh?

320 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:08:42pm

re: #314 moderatelyradicalliberal

I wonder if it was the law that was passed or the bikers who will be there? Because I doubt it was human decency, that changed their minds.

they’d get on a plane, heda there, and be surrounded by tarps and angel wings and revving motorcycles and they realized they had other plans!

321 SpaceJesus  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:09:05pm

re: #314 moderatelyradicalliberal


real danger to themselves this time


take note you never see westboro protest a funeral in rough neighborhoods

322 Decatur Deb  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:09:10pm

re: #314 moderatelyradicalliberal

I wonder if it was the law that was passed or the bikers who will be there? Because I doubt it was human decency, that changed their minds.

It’s reported they allowed themselves to be bought off with radio time.

323 Lidane  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:09:22pm

re: #318 Dante41

Running the country ages a man. Clinton went from silver and grey to completely white hair by the end of his first term, IIRC.

324 KingKenrod  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:09:24pm

Can anyone imagine Pres. Palin giving a speech this good?

325 Political Atheist  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:09:38pm

re: #318 Dante41

They all do. 3x speed aging.

326 Stan the Demanded Plan  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:09:39pm

re: #319 palomino

Always a knee-jerk qualification from you. You just can’t help yourself, huh?

he doesn’t love

gah

327 moderatelyradicalliberal  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:09:39pm

re: #291 brookly red

Dude, really?

328 What, me worry?  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:09:52pm

re: #314 moderatelyradicalliberal

I wonder if it was the law that was passed or the bikers who will be there? Because I doubt it was human decency, that changed their minds.

I think Gov Brewer signed it into law this morning. 1000 feet away, was it?

329 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:10:06pm

re: #297 jamesfirecat

///James Firecat unlocked the Achievement Thread-Derailer!

James, perhaps a trollcat is called for.

330 researchok  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:10:10pm

Obama honoring the Fort Hood victims with medals

Youtube Video
331 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:10:12pm

re: #321 SpaceJesus

real danger to themselves this time

take note you never see westboro protest a funeral in rough neighborhoods

In Arizona, it is unwise to taunt Arizonans because they really have a deep and abiding love for firearms

332 brookly red  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:10:13pm

re: #323 Lidane

Running the country ages a man. Clinton went from silver and grey to completely white hair by the end of his first term, IIRC.

true that… not a job I would want

333 Major Tom  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:10:17pm

re: #324 KingKenrod

Maybe if she had some people supplying extra hands.

334 abolitionist  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:10:27pm

re: #324 KingKenrod

Can anyone imagine Pres. Palin giving a speech this good?

/You betcha

335 palomino  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:10:38pm

re: #301 bratwurst

What part of THEY HAD A MEMORIAL SERVICE AND OBAMA SPOKE THERE FOR 15 minutes is beyond your ability to comprehend?


[Video]

The fact that he’s a Dem who did something good. Not to ever be acknowledged by partisan toolery.

336 darthstar  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:10:38pm

Healing words from the President. I’m glad I got to see this.

337 SpaceJesus  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:10:51pm

re: #331 WindUpBird

I think the UoA kids would have beaten them to death. I really do.

338 albusteve  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:10:58pm

re: #313 WindUpBird

COTD

POHB

339 moderatelyradicalliberal  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:11:01pm

re: #321 SpaceJesus

Well, I think Tuscon would have been a really rough neighborhood this time.

340 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:11:03pm

re: #324 KingKenrod

Can anyone imagine Pres. Palin giving a speech this good?

Well, yes, but good in the way that watching Santa Claus Conquers the Martians while stoned is “good”.

341 researchok  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:11:20pm

Good speech

342 Surabaya Stew  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:11:22pm

re: #318 Dante41

Wow. He’s been in office two years and his hair is already turning gray.

I’m supprised its not white. Mine cerainly would be if I had 1/4 the chalenges and pressure any president does!

343 Charles Johnson  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:11:36pm

What an enormous contrast with Sarah Palin’s statement.

344 Lidane  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:11:44pm

Uh oh. He just called for worthy debate. Watch the wingnuts froth.

345 Stan the Demanded Plan  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:11:59pm

re: #336 darthstar

Healing words from the President. I’m glad I got to see this.

tears here

346 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:12:00pm

re: #337 SpaceJesus

I think the UoA kids would have beaten them to death. I really do.

I’m just imaging a teeming horde of skinny college kids with clever haircuts just going all PC LOAD LETTER

347 Girth  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:12:15pm

re: #343 Charles

What an enormous contrast with Sarah Palin’s statement.

She fucked up releasing that video this morning.

348 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:12:21pm

re: #318 Dante41

Wow. He’s been in office two years and his hair is already turning gray.

It takes it out of a man. Bush looked like he’d been drawn and quartered at the end of eight years.

349 jamesfirecat  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:12:29pm

re: #329 Dark_Falcon

James, perhaps a trollcat is called for.

What subject exactly?

350 moderatelyradicalliberal  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:12:32pm

re: #337 SpaceJesus

Yeah, I think an ass whipping was highly probable.

351 What, me worry?  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:12:34pm

re: #315 Bubblehead II

I found myself actually laughing with friends after my father’s memorial service which I thought, myself was inappropriate, but I was happy to have closure.

I know the feeling. When my MIL got the message that her husband had passed away it was hilarious. They didn’t know how to use a cell phone or voice mail. Sad/funny at the same time

It’s a weird thing. You need closure. Burials and memorial services give that to the community and the family. There’s almost a happy release. This whole town has been suffering here. You walk through your life like a zombie, feeling disconnected. You want the comfort of other people and my goodness, the president! So I think it’s almost a natural response.

352 darthstar  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:12:35pm

re: #343 Charles

What an enormous contrast with Sarah Palin’s statement.

You really can’t compare the two. Palin is defensive and acting out of self interest. President Obama is trying to bridge a divide and get people to think beyond their own bubbles.

353 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:12:39pm

re: #348 SanFranciscoZionist

It takes it out of a man. Bush looked like he’d been drawn and quartered at the end of eight years.

Yeah Bush entered the gig looking young!

354 moderatelyradicalliberal  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:13:01pm

re: #348 SanFranciscoZionist

And Clinton had a heart attack.

355 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:13:10pm

re: #348 SanFranciscoZionist

It takes it out of a man. Bush looked like he’d been drawn and quartered at the end of eight years.

Leftist violent rhetoric :)

356 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:13:11pm

re: #350 moderatelyradicalliberal

Yeah, I think an ass whipping was highly probable.

You know there’s some 19 year old college kid who wants to be the guy that took a swing at Fred Phelps with his skateboard

357 Stan the Demanded Plan  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:13:43pm

WestWingReport

On Christina “so trusting, so deserving of our love, let’s make sure the loss of every one of these people (helps us) become better people”

for you not watching

358 Surabaya Stew  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:13:46pm

re: #343 Charles

What an enormous contrast with Sarah Palin’s statement.

Yeah, I noticed the lack of blood libel accusiations coming from Obama; whats up with that?
///

359 researchok  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:13:56pm

That’s bad.

Good.

But bad.

360 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:14:07pm

re: #356 WindUpBird

You know there’s some 19 year old college kid who wants to be the guy that took a swing at Fred Phelps with his skateboard

Let’s what the rhetoric… next thing you know some kid will read something like this and decide to do this… words have meaning.

361 albusteve  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:14:08pm

getting a bit windy here

362 moderatelyradicalliberal  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:14:08pm

re: #356 WindUpBird

LOL! But, I was actually thinking about the little girl’s father.

363 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:14:11pm

Lovely sentiments.

That Sandra Day O’Conner in the front row? She looks great!

364 palomino  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:14:11pm

re: #343 Charles

What an enormous contrast with Sarah Palin’s statement.

Because Sarah has to play the victim and constantly air her grievance at the MSM, who treated her so badly by asking questions and actually expecting answers.

She’s a joke…she claims her words don’t create a climate of implied violence, but other people’s criticisms have now put her in danger.

365 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:14:23pm

re: #347 Girth

She fucked up releasing that video this morning.

yeah aside from the normal us versus them, that just seemed like bad strategy to me


I get the feeling Sarah Palin’s handlers are not all on the same page

366 prairiefire  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:14:36pm

“The forces that divide us are not as strong as those that unite us.”

367 jamesfirecat  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:14:36pm

re: #348 SanFranciscoZionist

It takes it out of a man. Bush looked like he’d been drawn and quartered at the end of eight years.

Imagine what would have happened to John McCain if he had won…

368 Major Tom  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:14:45pm

Oh know. I just thought of what the Insane Right is going to say about this…

369 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:15:15pm

re: #348 SanFranciscoZionist

It takes it out of a man. Bush looked like he’d been drawn and quartered at the end of eight years.

Men tend to enter the office late forties, early fifties. The body goes to shit at that point on most of us.

370 Stan the Demanded Plan  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:15:17pm

Christina.

371 McSpiff  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:15:34pm

re: #367 jamesfirecat

Imagine what would have happened to John McCain if he had won…

He’d look like he’s about 12. Buffer overflow.

372 darthstar  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:15:48pm

re: #368 Major Tom

Oh know. I just thought of what the Insane Right is going to say about this…

President Obama could have stayed in Washington and they’d say the same things. Fuck ‘em. They’re just defensive and looking to distract. They deserve to be ignored - especially by the media.

373 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:16:10pm

re: #360 Walter L. Newton

Let’s what the rhetoric… next thing you know some kid will read something like this and decide to do this… words have meaning.

If I can’t acknowledge that people would love to see Phelps get a beatdown, this ain’t no kind of internet :D

374 prairiefire  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:16:12pm

*******

375 Girth  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:16:17pm

holy shit

376 Fozzie Bear  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:16:28pm

wow

377 SpaceJesus  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:16:29pm

re: #356 WindUpBird


I think it would have been more than just one guy

378 Lidane  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:16:52pm

Wow. Amazing stuff.

379 Donna Ballard  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:16:52pm

Ya know, I warms my heart to see our president comfort and speak the word that really need to say. Probably the best speech I’ve heard from him yet. And coming from me that’s quite a compliment!

380 Jadespring  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:16:53pm

woah

381 Dante41  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:16:53pm

That, Ladies and Gentlemen, is a Grand Slam in speech form.

382 McSpiff  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:17:02pm

…What did i just miss?

383 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:17:14pm

re: #377 SpaceJesus

I think it would have been more than just one guy

well yes :D

384 Big Steve  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:17:22pm

President Obama is doing a great job in this speech. I am proud of him.

385 Walter L. Newton  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:17:30pm

re: #382 McSpiff

…What did i just miss?

Depends who you ask.

386 moderatelyradicalliberal  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:17:44pm

re: #381 Dante41

That is my President and I’ll never be sorry I voted for him.

387 Lidane  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:18:25pm

re: #386 moderatelyradicalliberal

That is my President and I’ll never be sorry I voted for him.

Agreed.

388 Varek Raith  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:18:34pm

re: #382 McSpiff

…What did i just miss?

Ditto.

389 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:18:51pm

re: #367 jamesfirecat

Imagine what would have happened to John McCain if he had won…

That was a real concern of mine. He’s an older man, and he has not lived a life that was easy on his body.

390 recusancy  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:19:15pm

re: #386 moderatelyradicalliberal

That is my President and I’ll never be sorry I voted for him.

It’s why I campaigned my ass off for him from the moment he declared.

391 Girth  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:19:18pm

Pick the end of that apart #tcot douchebags.

392 Fozzie Bear  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:19:25pm

that was absolutely perfect

393 Political Atheist  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:19:27pm

And God Bless you President Obama. That seals my 2012 vote rock freaking soilid.

394 brookly red  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:19:28pm

all in all a good speech…

395 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:20:00pm

“But what we can’t do is use this tragedy as one more occasion to turn on one another.”

Full transcript is on… Drudge.

396 Lidane  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:20:02pm

re: #390 recusancy

It’s why I campaigned my ass off for him from the moment he declared.

And it’s why I gave him money and supported him so fiercely from the start.

397 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:20:03pm

You can see people turning around looking at some antics in the stands.

398 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:20:04pm

yeah that was solid

399 moderatelyradicalliberal  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:20:04pm

re: #389 SanFranciscoZionist

And he chose a moron for his VP.

400 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:20:27pm

re: #397 Killgore Trout

You can see people turning around looking at some antics in the stands.

Did you see the guy with the My Chemical Romance hair

401 Major Tom  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:20:32pm

re: #397 Killgore Trout

antics?

402 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:20:59pm

re: #401 Major Tom

antics?

you know, tomfoolery, shenanigans

403 Fat Bastard Vegetarian  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:21:05pm

re: #401 Major Tom

antics?

You may rest assured there’s an asshole in the crowd somewhere.

404 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:21:13pm

re: #399 moderatelyradicalliberal

And he chose a moron for his VP.

Yeah. I might have risked voting for the man if he’d had a plausible understudy.

405 moderatelyradicalliberal  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:21:14pm

re: #390 recusancy

Thanks for that. I came late to the party. I didn’t think he could win until he took Iowa.

406 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:21:25pm

re: #394 brookly red

all in all a good speech…

I think it was a good speech and could have been very powerful. The audience was such a distraction and really reduced the impact of the event.

407 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:21:46pm

re: #349 jamesfirecat

What subject exactly?

You pic. Something suitable for smacking down talking points. It shouldn’t go after either side specifically, though.

408 prairiefire  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:21:46pm

re: #400 WindUpBird

Did you see the guy with the My Chemical Romance hair

Yes, it looked good.

409 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:21:46pm

Let’s see if they can manage a moment of silence.

410 Alexzander  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:22:05pm

“President Cool says Chill” - Drudge… ugh.

411 Major Tom  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:22:38pm

re: #410 Alexzander

You’re joking

412 recusancy  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:23:31pm

re: #411 Major Tom

You’re joking

Nope. Complete with a picture of him meant to look smug.

413 Alexzander  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:23:42pm

re: #411 Major Tom

You’re joking

*Shakes head*

414 Dante41  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:24:25pm

re: #413 Alexzander

*Shakes head*

Well, someone ignored what the speech said.

415 Fozzie Bear  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:24:30pm

re: #412 recusancy

There’s no floor. The depravity can always get lower.

416 moderatelyradicalliberal  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:24:37pm

re: #411 Major Tom

Nope. The jokes write themselves for that crowd nowadays.

417 Donna Ballard  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:24:42pm

My eldest brother lives there, in Tucson, less than ten miles away from there, where it all went down and I spoke to him on Saturday as this was being reported. RWC and I have spent a lot of time there in past years and it’s got to be one of the cleanest, neatest and nicest places I’ve ever been to. I know that the whole community is in still in shock, and will be for a long time to come. Our hearts go out to the people of Tucson and the whole state of Arizona, the families of the lost loved ones and to Congresswoman Gifford. I plan to go and visit the spot soon and lay some flowers in memory of the fallen.

418 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:24:50pm

re: #410 Alexzander

“President Cool says Chill” - Drudge… ugh.

The internet! everyone has an angle, Drudge is almost like a computer that calculates the most asshole move

419 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:25:36pm

re: #414 Dante41

Well, someone ignored what the speech said.

someone has a website to run, and masses to inflame

Father Coughlin would be proud

420 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:26:04pm

re: #415 Fozzie Bear

There’s no floor. The depravity can always get lower.

The depravity will descend to the point where it stops making money. Then it will stay there :D

421 WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.]  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:27:55pm

re: #417 Dragon_Lady

Just for the record, sometimes the places that look ‘Clean” and “Nice” and “neat”? sometimes that’s a symptom of a problem.

Portland is chaotic and grungy and dirty and sorta poor. But it’s also giving and creative, much like hippies. And nobody in Portland is going to start drawing on congressmen in a parking lot

422 Alexzander  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:28:05pm

There are a lot of great moments in the speech. Here is a very salient one:

If this tragedy prompts reflection and debate, as it should, let’s make sure it’s worthy of those we have lost. Let’s make sure it’s not on the usual plane of politics and point scoring and pettiness that drifts away with the next news cycle.

423 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:30:30pm

re: #393 Rightwingconspirator

And God Bless you President Obama. That seals my 2012 vote rock freaking soilid.

It does not get my vote, but it was still a good speech and it did him credit.

424 Political Atheist  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:31:34pm

re: #421 WindUpBird

And this time, ya got it wrong. “Sometimes” anything is possible. Tucson is a good city. Been there for a week or two every year for twenty five years.

425 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:31:52pm

re: #410 Alexzander

“President Cool says Chill” - Drudge… ugh.

“What fools these mortals wingnuts be!”

426 webevintage  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:32:03pm

re: #182 brookly red

well, we didn’t…

Late to the party, but the memorial at Fort Hood was chosen by the military I would assume. Here the state of AZ made the choice to go big. Two different incidents, two different memorials.
Both were a big “fuck you” to the haters.

427 Killgore Trout  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:32:25pm

re: #410 Alexzander

“President Cool says Chill” - Drudge… ugh.

ugh.

428 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:33:57pm

re: #419 WindUpBird

someone has a website to run, and masses to inflame

Father Coughlin would be proud

Father Coughlin was a priest. He actually would have been respectful regarding a funeral service, as the clergy are trained to be. Matt Drudge with this has actually descended beneath Coughlin and continues to dig.

429 Political Atheist  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:37:01pm

re: #423 Dark_Falcon

This follows a number of things that have impressed me of late. But yeah, great speech, and very sincere.

430 jamesfirecat  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:38:55pm

re: #425 Dark_Falcon

“What fools these mortals wingnuts be!”

And on that note, your LOL-Troll cat can be found on the next page…

431 Donna Ballard  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:42:52pm

re: #421 WindUpBird

Just for the record, sometimes the places that look ‘Clean” and “Nice” and “neat”? sometimes that’s a symptom of a problem.

Portland is chaotic and grungy and dirty and sorta poor. But it’s also giving and creative, much like hippies. And nobody in Portland is going to start drawing on congressmen in a parking lot

You know, as a rule I don’t like to down ding comments I don’t like just because I believe everyone has a right to their own opinion. But if I were to do it, That little snipe would be a prime candidate for one. I’m thinking about it. If I do, it will probably be the first one since I started posting here. You’ve never been there, I have. You’ve never shopped in that store where the shooting occured and talked to the people there. I have. The b.s. I have to put up with here in Los Angeles is so annoying and stressful that the atmosphere in Tucson is a very welcome breath of fresh air! When you’ver been there and seen what I then you have the right to your snippy little comment. Until then pretty please refrain!

432 mr.fusion  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:44:45pm

re: #410 Alexzander

“President Cool says Chill” - Drudge… ugh.

I mean………Goddammit

If you watched what I watched for the last hour and a half and that’s what you got out of it, then there’s just no hope

433 Dark_Falcon  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:46:28pm

re: #430 jamesfirecat

And on that note, your LOL-Troll cat can be found on the next page…

I don’t see it yet.

434 jamesfirecat  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:48:45pm

re: #433 Dark_Falcon

I don’t see it yet.

Thread not page, but its number 54

435 palomino  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:54:54pm

re: #361 albusteve

getting a bit windy here

It’s the Chicago way.

436 palomino  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 6:59:10pm

re: #428 Dark_Falcon

Father Coughlin was a priest. He actually would have been respectful regarding a funeral service, as the clergy are trained to be. Matt Drudge with this has actually descended beneath Coughlin and continues to dig.

As did Palin, who decided to make this day about herself with a self-absorbed, self-pitying little speech earlier. She’s still playing the victim over the 2008 electioin and the MSM in general. So why should today be different than any other?

As a Dem, I wish the GOP was dumb enough to nominate her. But I don’t think they are.

437 ryannon  Wed, Jan 12, 2011 7:27:49pm

re: #309 Stanley Sea

TheFix

“What we cannot do is use this tragedy as one more occasion to turn on each other.” — President Obama to HUGE applause.

Wanna bet?


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