Jim ‘Dim’ Hoft: ‘We’re All Birthers Now’

Jim Hoft single-handedly lowers the right wing’s IQ even more
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World Net Daily lunatic Jerome Corsi has appeared twice on the vile white supremacist radio show “Political Cesspool,” which explains why he continues to promote the right wing’s Birther conspiracy theory; he’s an unreconstructed racist himself.

DERPCorsi has released another book on the subject (now the featured story on the front page of Drudge Report), drawing the attention of the right’s dumbest blogger, Jim “Dim” Hoft, in a harmonic convergence of sheer idiocy: Birther Nation… Drudge: New Book Reveals Obama’s True Identity | The Gateway Pundit.

Hoft’s comment:

Leftie heads explode…
‘MISSING RECORDS IN HAWAII, MISSING RECORDS IN KENYA, MISSING RECORDS IN INDONESIA’…

We’re all birthers now.

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84 comments
1 Varek Raith  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 10:14:22am

The Derp is strong with this one.

2 HappyWarrior  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 10:14:53am

Translation, we're dumbasses and this is our coming out party.

3 Eclectic Infidel  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 10:16:01am

Derp!

4 Jeff In Ohio  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 10:18:04am

Missing brains on the rightwing blogosphere.

5 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 10:18:38am

How can the records be missing when we've all seen the COLB?

Are they actually implying that the state of Hawaii would falsify a government document? That's pretty big.

6 Obdicut  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 10:20:16am

Corsi is also one of the very strange people who believe oil is abiogenic, that is, that it's produced by chemical processes rather than the decomposition of living matter.

He also said "President Bush is pursuing a globalist agenda to create a North American Union".

What a freak.

7 Varek Raith  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 10:21:16am

Later gators.

Here's a bit of sanity.

Youtube Video
8 Iwouldprefernotto  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 10:22:57am

What you are saying is that we are going to have to listen to the birther nonsense for another six years. What sin did I commit to deserve this?

9 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 10:22:57am

re: #2 HappyWarrior

Translation, we're dumbasses and this is our coming out party.

Long white dress coming out, or rainbow flag coming out?

10 Nevertires  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 10:23:38am

Summed up nicely in Charles' words:

"harmonic convergence of sheer idiocy"

11 BongCrodny  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 10:24:01am

We’re all birthers now.

Not me, asshole.

12 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 10:24:22am

re: #5 EmmmieG

How can the records be missing when we've all seen the COLB?

Are they actually implying that the state of Hawaii would falsify a government document? That's pretty big.

And that the Republican governor of Hawaii repeatedly lied to cover it up.

Yeah. After a certain point, they're accusing people by implication of some pretty astonishingly illegal stuff, but they never let themselves be pinned down to an actual statement like "Yes, I believe that Laura Lingle is a liar."

13 blueraven  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 10:24:46am

re: #9 SanFranciscoZionist

Long white dress coming out, or rainbow flag coming out?

Long white robes and the gadsen flag coming out.

14 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 10:24:47am

re: #6 Obdicut

Corsi is also one of the very strange people who believe oil is abiogenic, that is, that it's produced by chemical processes rather than the decomposition of living matter.

He also said "President Bush is pursuing a globalist agenda to create a North American Union".

What a freak.

Oh yeah, the NAU! And the amero!

I had a student who believed in that.

15 Charles Johnson  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 10:28:02am

A partial guest list for Political Cesspool:

[Link: webcache.googleusercontent.com...]

Notice that Ted Nugent is there, as are Pat Buchanan and Bay Buchanan, several GOP politicians, Corsi, and many others whose names you'll recognize.

Also note that Political Cesspool is not trying to hide anything -- they're absolutely open about their white supremacism. All of these people knew exactly what the show was about.

16 Obdicut  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 10:28:10am

re: #14 SanFranciscoZionist

Corsi is also a 9/11 truther.

He was one of the guys behind the Swiftboating smears.

He's about as scummy as you can get.

17 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 10:29:06am

re: #15 Charles

A partial guest list for Political Cesspool:

[Link: webcache.googleusercontent.com...]

Notice that Ted Nugent is there, as are Pat Buchanan and Bay Buchanan, several GOP politicians, Corsi, and many others whose names you'll recognize.

Also note that Political Cesspool is not trying to hide anything -- they're absolutely open about their white supremacism. All of these people knew exactly what the show was about.

You said Ted Nugent. Hehehehe.

Some day I'm going to take a picture of the poster at the archery range and post it here. Mullet-o-rama.

18 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 10:29:23am

No, Mr. Hoft, we're not all birthers. Just you.

19 Shiplord Kirel  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 10:29:49am

re: #5 EmmmieG

How can the records be missing when we've all seen the COLB?

Are they actually implying that the state of Hawaii would falsify a government document? That's pretty big.

Under a Republican administration no less. My TP neighbor explains that by invoking the usual conspiracist rationale that the Hildabeast machine's stolen FBI files include some juicy blackmail material on the GOP officials involved. Just why Hillary would lend her famous dirt files to the Obama campaign, or how they could reliably blackmail everyone who might get involved is left unexplained.

20 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 10:31:22am

re: #19 Shiplord Kirel

Under a Republican administration no less. My TP neighbor explains that by invoking the usual conspiracist rationale that the Hildabeast machine's stolen FBI files include some juicy blackmail material on the GOP officials involved. Just why Hillary would lend her famous dirt files to the Obama campaign, or how they could reliably blackmail everyone who might get involved is left unexplained.

If Hilary could get him thrown out, it would already be done.

21 wrenchwench  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 10:31:32am

re: #15 Charles

A partial guest list for Political Cesspool:

[Link: webcache.googleusercontent.com...]

Notice that Ted Nugent is there, as are Pat Buchanan and Bay Buchanan, several GOP politicians, Corsi, and many others whose names you'll recognize.

Also note that Political Cesspool is not trying to hide anything -- they're absolutely open about their white supremacism. All of these people knew exactly what the show was about.

Paul Babeu, sheriff of Pinal County, AZ, should be added to that list. Also to the list of those who said "it was a mistake" and "I had no idea." And I believe he also blamed a member of his staff for signing him up.

22 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 10:33:16am

re: #20 EmmmieG

If Hilary could get him thrown out, it would already be done.

Yeah. Basically, I'm supposed to believe that the Clinton campaign, the McCain campaign, and every birther nut for the past however the hell long it's been have come up with no smoking gun on Obama, but for Corsi it's revealed?

Seriously.

23 Nevertires  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 10:34:37am

re: #19 Shiplord Kirel

And there is another acid-test/logic test of this. Hillary Clinton appears to me to be quite the adept street-fighter. Wouldn't she have taken out Obama on eligibility grounds if she had the knowledge?

Man, either I have on my simpleton hat or the birthers are blind to grade 1 logic.

Not looking for justification as to Obama's citizenship - I just truly don't understand how these people are so blind and ignorant.

24 Nevertires  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 10:35:01am

re: #20 EmmmieG

I'm late to the party again!

25 Obdicut  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 10:35:05am

re: #15 Charles

Guests include:

Gordon Baum - CEO, Council of Conservative Citizens
Tarry Beasley - Attorney, Activist, Sons of the Confederate Veterans
Filip DeWinter - Member of Belgium Parliament (Vlaams Belang)
Gottfried Dulias - Former Luftwaffe Fighter Pilot /Survivor of Bolshevik Gulags, Author
David Duke - Author and former Louisiana State Representative
Doug French - Editor of Liberty Watch Magazine; columnist for LewRockwell.com
Scott Goldsmith - Owner of Dixie Republic
Michael Andrew Grissom - Celebrated Author of Confederate Heritage Books
Dr. Michael Hill - President of the League of the South
Bill Johnson - Chairman, American Third Position

26 General Nimrod Bodfish  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 10:35:16am

re: #8 Iwouldprefernotto

What you are saying is that we are going to have to listen to the birther nonsense for another six years. What sin did I commit to deserve this?

If there's conclusive proof that there is no compassionate god in this universe, this is it.

To believe that Obama wasn't born in the US, despite all of the evidence that says he was, means you're one of two things: a hardcore racist or skull-fucking stupid.

27 avanti  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 10:35:33am

Bachmann is no longer a birther, she Finnegan figured out Obama posted his Birth certificate on the net:


Bachmann

28 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 10:37:24am

re: #25 Obdicut

Guests include:

Gordon Baum - CEO, Council of Conservative Citizens
Tarry Beasley - Attorney, Activist, Sons of the Confederate Veterans
Filip DeWinter - Member of Belgium Parliament (Vlaams Belang)
Gottfried Dulias - Former Luftwaffe Fighter Pilot /Survivor of Bolshevik Gulags, Author
David Duke - Author and former Louisiana State Representative
Doug French - Editor of Liberty Watch Magazine; columnist for LewRockwell.com
Scott Goldsmith - Owner of Dixie Republic
Michael Andrew Grissom - Celebrated Author of Confederate Heritage Books
Dr. Michael Hill - President of the League of the South
Bill Johnson - Chairman, American Third Position

Former Luftwaffe Fighter Pilot?

Seriously?

29 Merryweather  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 10:37:29am

Oh hell, let's just have an almighty conspiracy convergence.

After being dropped from a flying saucer by aliens in Kenya, Barack Obama's real, extraterrestrial parents were detained in Area 51 and his real birth certificate sent to Fort Knox which was specifically built to house it - the gold story is just a cover-up of the cover up.

Then, at the tender age of 2, CIA agents programmed him to kill and took him to the grassy knoll, where he shot JFK. He then spent the next 6 years learning how to use cameras and parade in a spacesuit in order to fake the moon landing in a Hollywood backlot in 1969.

I mean, if we're all nuts now, we may as well make Jim Hoft and co look like amateurs.

30 Obdicut  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 10:37:52am

re: #25 Obdicut

Cut that off:

Bill Johnson - Chairman, American Third Position

That means he's a fascist.

The main precursors of Third Position politics are National Bolshevism, a synthesis of nationalism and Bolshevik communism, and Strasserism, a radical, mass-action and worker-based form of Nazism.

An appropriately named radio show. Fascists being given air time. Holy shit.

31 wrenchwench  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 10:38:22am

re: #27 avanti

Bachmann is no longer a birther, she Finnegan figured out Obama posted his Birth certificate on the net:

Bachmann

When Coulter says that, they say she's "turning liberal". I wonder whether Bachmann is immune to that.

32 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 10:39:34am

re: #31 wrenchwench

When Coulter says that, they say she's "turning liberal". I wonder whether Bachmann is immune to that.

Who says that? What schmucks! Ann Coulter is not turning liberal! Ann Coulter will never turn liberal! I may not like Ann, but she will by-God always be a hardliner semi-psychotic conservative pundit!!

33 SteveMcG  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 10:40:35am

re: #28 SanFranciscoZionist

Poor bastard was probably a POW in Siberia. Too bad.

34 avanti  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 10:40:50am

re: #31 wrenchwench

When Coulter says that, they say she's "turning liberal". I wonder whether Bachmann is immune to that.

The sad thing is, I don't think she even knew about the certificate of live birth until it was shown to her. I expect she'll back track in 1-2-3.....

35 Merryweather  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 10:42:02am

re: #34 avanti

The sad thing is, I don't think she even knew about the certificate of live birth until it was shown to her. I expect she'll back track in 1-2-3...

Nah, when you're a Republican, you only have to backtrack when you insult/fail to show sufficient deference to El Rushbo.

36 blueraven  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 10:42:52am

re: #25 Obdicut

Guests include:

Gordon Baum - CEO, Council of Conservative Citizens
Tarry Beasley - Attorney, Activist, Sons of the Confederate Veterans
Filip DeWinter - Member of Belgium Parliament (Vlaams Belang)
Gottfried Dulias - Former Luftwaffe Fighter Pilot /Survivor of Bolshevik Gulags, Author
David Duke - Author and former Louisiana State Representative
Doug French - Editor of Liberty Watch Magazine; columnist for LewRockwell.com
Scott Goldsmith - Owner of Dixie Republic
Michael Andrew Grissom - Celebrated Author of Confederate Heritage Books
Dr. Michael Hill - President of the League of the South
Bill Johnson - Chairman, American Third Position

AND...Gary Puckett - Lead Singer of "Gary Puckett and the Union Gap"
Huh?

37 darthstar  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 10:43:16am

re: #27 avanti

Bachmann is no longer a birther, she Finnegan figured out Obama posted his Birth certificate on the net:

Bachmann


Bachmann uses the same head-fake and nod to the birthers that she's really on their side in answering the question...

Stephanopoulos: Well I have the president’s certificate right here. It’s certified, it’s got a certification number. It’s got the registrar of the state signed. It’s got a seal on it. And it says 'this copy serves as prima facie evidence of the fact of birth in any court proceeding.'

Bachmann: Well, then that should settle it.

Stephanopoulos: So it’s over?

Bachmann: That’s what should settle it. I take the president at his word and I think– again I would have no problem and apparently the president wouldn’t either. Introduce that, we’re done. Move on.

Stephanopoulos: Well this has been introduced. So this story is over?

Bachmann: Well as long as someone introduces it I guess it’s over.

Stephanopoulos: It’s right there.

Bachmann: Yeah, there you go. Because that is not the main issue facing the United States right now.

38 Charles Johnson  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 10:43:18am

re: #34 avanti

The sad thing is, I don't think she even knew about the certificate of live birth until it was shown to her. I expect she'll back track in 1-2-3...

I'm certain that she did know. Bachmann is a shameless liar.

And notice that even as she seems to say Birtherism is "over," she still uses the weasel words, "I take the President at his word." That's a deliberate political ploy, implying there might still be some doubt.

39 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 10:45:21am

Why are these people not demanding an immediate investigation into corruption in Hawaii?

Hmmm?

40 Gus  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 10:45:36am

Quiet simply the Republican Party has become the Birther Party because they made bad choices.

//

41 The Left  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 10:46:06am

re: #35 Merryweather

Nah, when you're a Republican, you only have to backtrack when you insult/fail to show sufficient deference to El Rushbo.

I'm sorry, Rush.

42 SanFranciscoZionist  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 10:47:55am

re: #33 SteveMcG

Poor bastard was probably a POW in Siberia. Too bad.

Yeah, the story appears to be, after some quick Googling, that he was shot down in 1945, and ended up in the Gulag.

He claims to have been an ace, and apparently, WW2 buffs have been sifting through his claims trying to verify the story. He may be inflating or falsifying his war record in some way--people on the war history blogs seem rather skeptical.

But, er...let's just say that his political tendencies remain questionable.

43 Gus  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 10:51:16am

Now just because people showed up on the Political Cesspool doesn't mean anything. It was probably simply a case of them making bad choices.

//

44 The Left  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 10:54:50am

re: #40 Gus 802

Quiet simply the Republican Party has become the Birther Party because they made bad choices.

//

To derp, or not to derp? Fuck it, we'll derp it LIVE!

Youtube Video
45 Gus  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 10:56:44am

re: #44 iceweasel

To derp, or not to derp? Fuck it, we'll derp it LIVE!

[Video]

Jim Hoft. How did he get here?

And a reminder to everyone that Drudge is pimping Jerome Corsi's upcoming book today at Drudge Report. It's the big headline there with an image of the book cover, "Where's the Birth Certificate" and the headline which reads, "BOOK TO REVEAL OBAMA'S TRUE IDENTITY?"

46 iossarian  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 10:57:14am

re: #43 Gus 802

Now just because people showed up on the Political Cesspool doesn't mean anything. It was probably simply a case of them making bad choices.

//

I see what you did there.

47 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 10:57:28am

re: #45 Gus 802

Jim Hoft. How did he get here?

And a reminder to everyone that Drudge is pimping Jerome Corsi's upcoming book today at Drudge Report. It's the big headline there with an image of the book cover, "Where's the Birth Certificate" and the headline which reads, "BOOK TO REVEAL OBAMA'S TRUE IDENTITY?"

He's really Bruce Wayne.

48 Gus  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 10:57:37am

re: #46 iossarian

I see what you did there.

You did? Where? What? What did I do?

//

49 iossarian  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 10:57:58am

re: #48 Gus 802

You did? Where? What? What did I do?

//

ARE YOU SPEAKING FOR ME???

50 Gus  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 10:58:20am

re: #49 iossarian

ARE YOU SPEAKING FOR ME???

I'm just asking questions.

/

51 The Left  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 10:59:54am

re: #50 Gus 802

I'm just asking questions.

/

You're a regular Socrates. ;)

Image: lghr17100+old-school-statler-and-waldorf-poster.jpg

52 Gus  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 11:00:36am

re: #51 iceweasel

You're a regular Socrates. ;)

Image: lghr17100+old-school-statler-and-waldorf-poste r.jpg

I tend to think of myself as So-Crates. /

53 Achilles Tang  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 11:00:54am

re: #34 avanti

The sad thing is, I don't think she even knew about the certificate of live birth until it was shown to her. I expect she'll back track in 1-2-3...

I think that she has started to have second thoughts about how smart this approach may be, and may want to let Trump own it, if they both run.

54 thatthatisis  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 11:03:59am

I read the article up on Drudge Report. Published by WND? I'll bet the fact-checking was rigorous.......

I found it interesting that the book had "quietly" gone to print. So quietly it only hit the front page story, in big letters and with a photo, on Drudge Report.

55 Gus  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 11:04:01am

re: #51 iceweasel

You're a regular Socrates. ;)

Image: lghr17100+old-school-statler-and-waldorf-poste r.jpg

Image: waldorf-and-statler-print-c12295981.jpg

56 Gus  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 11:05:14am

Would Ayn Rand have been a birther? Discuss.

57 The Left  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 11:05:34am

re: #55 Gus 802

Image: waldorf-and-statler-print-c12295981.jpg

That's still the best one.

58 blueraven  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 11:05:42am

re: #36 blueraven

AND...Gary Puckett - Lead Singer of "Gary Puckett and the Union Gap"
Huh?

Oh here is another "celebrity" of sorts on the Political Cesspool guest list:

Hutton Gibson - Author and father of Mel Gibson

Shocka //

59 Romantic Heretic  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 11:06:36am

Sigh. So sad to see this level of mental illness on public display.

Honestly, Jim, Jerome, get help.

60 The Left  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 11:06:45am

re: #56 Gus 802

Would Ayn Rand have been a birther? Discuss.

Ayn Rand would support dynamiting Capital Hill, because the columns are no good. /

61 Gus  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 11:07:47am

re: #60 iceweasel

Ayn Rand would support dynamiting Capital Hill, because the columns are no good. /

She probably would have been fascinated with Timothy McVeigh.

62 The Left  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 11:08:27am

re: #61 Gus 802

She probably would have been fascinated with Timothy McVeigh.

What a he-man. A rugged individualist. /

63 Gus  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 11:09:19am

re: #62 iceweasel

What a he-man. A rugged individualist. /

And most importantly! An anti-collectivist!

Of course Breitbart would probably blame McVeigh on a black and women's studies.

//

64 Killgore Trout  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 11:10:47am

This is interesting...
'Glenn Beck Threw Me Under the Bus': Breakfast with Andrew Breitbart

According to Mr. Breitbart, fellow Tea Partier Glenn Beck first joined him in editing and eviscerating Ms. Sherrod's 2010 N.A.A.C.P. speech on the radio, before publishing the unedited version on his Web site, discrediting Mr. Breitbart on television and calling for his apology.

"Next thing I know, I'm under complete attack without the support of Glenn Beck, who I thought was somebody I could count on," Mr. Breitbart told the Transom. "He threw me under the bus."

65 The Left  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 11:11:53am

re: #64 Killgore Trout

I'm surprised anyone can still fit under this bus they keep talking about. /

66 Shiplord Kirel  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 11:12:01am

Breaking news:
Vanity Fair confirms that award-winning photojournalist Tim Heatherington has been killed in Libya. According to other media reports, Getty photographer Chris Hondros, initially reported to have been gravely wounded in the same incident, has also died.

67 prairiefire  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 11:12:06am

re: #61 Gus 802

She probably would have been fascinated with Timothy McVeigh.

He was absolutely without remorse for his actions. Rand would love him.

68 mr.fusion  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 11:13:33am

Eff Matt Drudge. He knows exactly what he's doing which in my book makes him the worst of the worst

69 Killgore Trout  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 11:13:33am

re: #64 Killgore Trout

I suspect that's going to be Breitbart's defense in court. He's going to claim the video was edited by Glenn Beck. Since they're all liars there's no way to tell who's telling the truth.

70 Gus  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 11:15:12am

Yikes. Look at him!

Image: andrewbreitbart.jpg

Wow.

71 iossarian  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 11:17:10am

re: #70 Gus 802

Yikes. Look at him!

Image: andrewbreitbart.jpg

Wow.

Angry oppressed white man.

A VICTIM IN HIS OWN COUNTRY.

72 darthstar  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 11:17:13am

re: #70 Gus 802

Yikes. Look at him!

Image: andrewbreitbart.jpg

Wow.

Is that his happy face?

73 darthstar  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 11:18:26am

re: #71 iossarian

Angry oppressed white man.

A VICTIM IN HIS OWN COUNTRY.

Angry and oppressed because his net worth has skyrocketed since Obama was elected - along with all the other assholes trying to make a buck by being anti-black president.

74 Gus  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 11:19:09am

re: #72 darthstar

Is that his happy face?

Proctology exam face.

//

75 jaunte  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 11:19:36am

re: #72 darthstar

Better. That's his 'listening' face.

76 Gus  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 11:20:48am

re: #73 darthstar

Angry and oppressed because his net worth has skyrocketed since Obama was elected - along with all the other assholes trying to make a buck by being anti-black president.

I still think he fell into a rage against "liberals" after being rejected in Hollywood. He probably had dreams of being in the movie biz but just couldn't cut it. Instead, after being rejected he wrote "Hollywood Interrupted" to vent his anger at "liberal" Hollywood.

77 okonkolo  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 11:59:44am

Man, i haven't clicked on Drudge's page for a couple of years now and I have to say my life's a tiny bit better because of it. And I aint gonna look now.

78 thecommodore  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 12:05:19pm

I am usually loath to engage in political speculation, but try this scenario on for size:

So the Trump and the Bachmann, the Palin, the Huckabee and many other GOP politicos have either trumpeted the birther story or played footsie with it while the GOP leadership - especially Boehner and Cantor, get very uncomfortable when asked about it. Since the Trump has pushed this "story" front and center again, mainstreaming it, if you will, most, if not all, of the presumed GOP presidential candidates will start add it to their dance card - even folks like Pawlenty and Romney, and they all try to outcrazy each other to show that they are taking this "story" seriously. Then, during one of the first GOP primary debates, the flat out question is asked of the candidate who will go on to become the Republican nominee: "Governor/Senator, do you believe that President Obama was born in Hawaii?" and the answer given is rambling and contradictory going something like this: "Yes, I believe the President was born in Hawaii, but questions have arisen about his past that are troubling, which I think could easily be resolved if he showed his original long form birth certificate." .

After it is established that this person is the presumptive nominee (probably sometime in the spring of 2012, a few months before the convention), Obama actually releases his long form birth certificate, which to the surprise of sane people, reveals that he was, in fact, born in Hawaii on August 4, 1961, and reveals no unsavory information (ie that he is a Muslim, or that Malcolm X, Muhammed Ali, or Gary Coleman is his real father). The usual birther nutjobs claim it's a forgery, but the GOP establishment clams up, and acts as if they never said anything about it. When asked about it by reporters actually committing journalism, the GOP gives a quick non-answer answer and ducks away into the limo. The birther story returns to it's rightful place on the fringe.

Then midway through the general campaign, say October 1, as Obama holds a slim 3-4 point edge over the GOP nominee, he produces an attack ad that shows the GOP nominee from the debate giving his contradictory answer, and it is part of a slew of ads that portray both the nominee and the Republican Party as being irresponsible and unstable. The nominees attempts to clarify convince no one since he stepped so far in this mess, he can't get out. Obama's lead surges and he wins in a near-record landslide.

Okay, I know this is probably reaching, but could a scenario like this actually play out?

79 Slap  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 12:13:16pm

re: #36 blueraven

AND...Gary Puckett - Lead Singer of "Gary Puckett and the Union Gap"
Huh?

Ah, the man who sang the creepiest single ever.

Read the lyrics to Young Girl.

There's a reason it hasn't emerged as an American Classic...

80 darthstar  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 12:23:04pm

re: #78 thecommodore

1. There is no "long form" birth certificate in Hawaii.
2. President Obama has already released an official copy of his birth certificate (cunningly labeled "certificate of live birth" - which Republicans are too retarded to realize is the same fucking thing)
3. Romney and even Bachmann are already trying to move away from the birther bullshit.
4. Trump - who is the only one really pushing this - is only doing this for publicity. He won't actually run, because that would mean disclosing his financial records (1billion in assets, 1.5 billion in debt) and divesting himself of anything that might pose a conflict of interest. That would be too much work.

The birther thing is only a way of keeping the Walmart crowd interested. They're not even considered in the general because they can only vote for the Republican, so the general election becomes a race to the middle, or even just left of center (remember McAingry talking about 'reaching across the aisle'? Of course, that all ended on November 4, 2008)

81 AntonSirius  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 12:38:01pm

re: #79 Slap

Ah, the man who sang the creepiest single ever.

Read the lyrics to Young Girl.

There's a reason it hasn't emerged as an American Classic...

You mean second creepiest.

Youtube Video
82 Lidane  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 1:14:19pm

Hey, Dim Hoft--

Unlike you, I have more than two brain cells to rub together. I also don't ignore the fact that Barack Obama's mother was an American citizen. In other words, no, I'm not a goddamn birther.

But hey, don't let my acceptance of reality stop you from being an ignorant, racist douchebag that clearly can't function in daily life without a crash helmet. To quote Caribou Barbie, that seems to be workin' out for ya.

No love,
Me

83 celticdragon  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 1:25:57pm

re: #6 Obdicut

Corsi is also one of the very strange people who believe oil is abiogenic, that is, that it's produced by chemical processes rather than the decomposition of living matter.

He also said "President Bush is pursuing a globalist agenda to create a North American Union".

What a freak.

Oh my God. One of those freaks who thinks that God is making oil every day for us to use.

84 Michael McBacon  Wed, Apr 20, 2011 5:32:33pm

Isn't his statement rather... collectivist?


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