Overnight Open Thread

Charles Johnson

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People have learned to escape reality very well but too often lose their way back.

— Eugene J. Martin

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Our Precious Bodily Fluids Sat, Jun 4, 2011 10:22:56pm

Yes.

Youtube Video

Dancing along the light of day Sat, Jun 4, 2011 10:48:34pm

We've gotta get out of here, if it's the last thing we ever do!

Youtube Video

A Man for all Seasons Sat, Jun 4, 2011 10:50:35pm

re: #2 Floral Giraffe

We've gotta get out of here, if it's the last thing we ever do!

[Video]

Hey you...I'm back home

Dancing along the light of day Sat, Jun 4, 2011 10:51:40pm

re: #3 HoosierHoops

Hey you...I'm back home

Quieter, now.
Did you have fun?

A Man for all Seasons Sat, Jun 4, 2011 10:53:02pm

re: #4 Floral Giraffe

Quieter, now.
Did you have fun?

I did some country dancing tonight..I learned the 2 step..Sort of

Dancing along the light of day Sat, Jun 4, 2011 10:54:44pm

re: #5 HoosierHoops

Avoided crushing toes, I hope?

A Man for all Seasons Sat, Jun 4, 2011 10:56:31pm

re: #6 Floral Giraffe

Avoided crushing toes, I hope?

I did pretty good...I think...Nobody slapped me..Lots of fun for country music

Dancing along the light of day Sat, Jun 4, 2011 10:58:21pm

re: #7 HoosierHoops

I got a rock to skip 12 times today!
My new record!
I think the lifeguards think I'm a crazy lady!
LOL!

Dancing along the light of day Sat, Jun 4, 2011 10:59:50pm

re: #7 HoosierHoops

So, if I send you a link will you look?
Mr. Crackberry!

A Man for all Seasons Sat, Jun 4, 2011 11:04:05pm

re: #9 Floral Giraffe

So, if I send you a link will you look?
Mr. Crackberry!

Yes! Can you believe how country the music was tonight? I danced a two step to Pink Cadillac by Bruce Springsteen tonight...Only in Oklahoma
/I called Floral tonight so she could hear the music

Dancing along the light of day Sat, Jun 4, 2011 11:05:58pm

re: #10 HoosierHoops

The man is dancing in Oklahoma & doesn't wear boots.
It's a sin, I'm telling you!
///
He';s a Prince!

freetoken Sat, Jun 4, 2011 11:06:23pm

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Dancing along the light of day Sat, Jun 4, 2011 11:17:45pm

I saw some California Quail this morning.
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

They are excellent!

Dancing along the light of day Sat, Jun 4, 2011 11:22:36pm

Good night, all.
Sleep tight.
Sleep a deep & restful sleep.
& if a *smooch* will help, there's on laid softly on your cheek.

freetoken Sun, Jun 5, 2011 12:28:05am

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freetoken Sun, Jun 5, 2011 1:11:10am

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freetoken Sun, Jun 5, 2011 2:32:20am

A pop chart topper from 1951:

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Of all the top pop hits from the late 40's and early 50's, he is one of the few artists whose work has held up 60 years later.

researchok Sun, Jun 5, 2011 3:13:35am

Motning, all

Darth Vader Gargoyle Sun, Jun 5, 2011 3:32:16am

re: #18 researchok

Motning, all

Motning to you too!

Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, Jun 5, 2011 3:36:00am

re: #18 researchok

Mottning...

Darth Vader Gargoyle Sun, Jun 5, 2011 3:55:23am

re: #20 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Mottning...

Man you are Old!
//

Flounder Sun, Jun 5, 2011 4:09:51am

re: #20 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Quite the axe that long haired hippie got!

King of the Douche, now you may bow Sun, Jun 5, 2011 4:36:45am

Went on a 2 mile walk this motning, stopped by a local Shell station. Turns out someone tried to rob them Monday night. I know the woman working that night. A guy walked in, said "Gimme the money"!! She said no. Then he said "Gimme some smokes, then"!! She said, "You got ID"? He left and was later caught robbing a 7-11. Heh.
And good motning honcos!!

Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, Jun 5, 2011 4:41:26am

re: #21 rwdflynavy

I'm just sayin'... Good Motning.

Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, Jun 5, 2011 4:42:42am

Really. Good Mott'sning.

King of the Douche, now you may bow Sun, Jun 5, 2011 4:44:43am

re: #25 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Really. Good Mott'sning.

The berry one is the best!!

Fat Bastard Vegetarian Sun, Jun 5, 2011 4:46:18am

I gotta get ready for church. Good Motning, y'all.

Flounder Sun, Jun 5, 2011 4:59:38am

re: #27 Fat Bastard Vegetarian

Which summer dress you wearing?
/

King of the Douche, now you may bow Sun, Jun 5, 2011 5:00:19am

re: #28 Shropshire_Slasher

Which summer dress you wearing?
/

Probably the one with the pie stains on it.
/

Flounder Sun, Jun 5, 2011 5:02:16am

Oh, and thanks FBV, I'm making bacon and pancakes while singing Mott the Hoople.

Sol Berdinowitz Sun, Jun 5, 2011 5:36:30am

Man, like I need TV when I got T Rex...

King of the Douche, now you may bow Sun, Jun 5, 2011 6:29:08am

So, while looking at jobs on Craig's List, I came across a post that said that employers can fire you at any time for no reason what so ever in Florida. Hmm. Incorrect!!! You do need a reason to fire someone unless you have them on a probationary period when they first start, usually 90 days. After that, you document any time they screw up and write them up if the offense calls for it. The employee must sign the write up and it goes in their file. What I find amusing is that the poster probably believes what he/she wrote, and others will take the post as gospel and the stupidity will continue.

laZardo Sun, Jun 5, 2011 6:32:50am

re: #32 Cannadian Club Akbar

jobs on Craig's List

There's your problem. :P

PhillyPretzel Sun, Jun 5, 2011 6:32:50am

re: #32 Cannadian Club Akbar
True. I was trying to explain something to a co-worker after they saw something on the internet that was wrong. It was an up hill battle but I got them at least to listen to the truth.

King of the Douche, now you may bow Sun, Jun 5, 2011 6:34:24am

re: #33 laZardo

There's your problem. :P

I have an interview on Tuesday for a job I found there, so shuttup!!
//

King of the Douche, now you may bow Sun, Jun 5, 2011 6:36:06am

re: #34 PhillyPretzel

True. I was trying to explain something to a co-worker after they saw something on the internet that was wrong. It was an up hill battle but I got them at least to listen to the truth.

Nirth certifkit?
/

Flounder Sun, Jun 5, 2011 6:38:33am

re: #35 Cannadian Club Akbar

It rubs the lotion on its skin, or else it gets the hose again

Obdicut Sun, Jun 5, 2011 6:40:07am

re: #32 Cannadian Club Akbar

Uh, I"d check that. Florida seems to be an 'at-will employment' state with no implied contract exception.

[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]

PhillyPretzel Sun, Jun 5, 2011 6:42:13am

re: #36 Cannadian Club Akbar
No. Actually it was what Teddy Roosevelt said many years ago. "Speak softly and carry a big stick. He insisted it was, "walk softly..." I show him the original quote in "Oxford's Book of Quotations." He reluctantly agreed after he saw the entry.

King of the Douche, now you may bow Sun, Jun 5, 2011 6:49:55am

re: #38 Obdicut

OK. And they receive compensation if fired. But the company can fight it, which is why I said you document all disciplinary actions.

Obdicut Sun, Jun 5, 2011 6:52:17am

re: #40 Cannadian Club Akbar

OK. And they receive compensation if fired. But the company can fight it, which is why I said you document all disciplinary actions.

No, an at-will statue means that an employee can be let go with no compensation and no warning whatsoever.

The only thing that would be disputed would be unemployment benefits.

King of the Douche, now you may bow Sun, Jun 5, 2011 6:53:52am

re: #41 Obdicut

No, an at-will statue means that an employee can be let go with no compensation and no warning whatsoever.

The only thing that would be disputed would be unemployment benefits.

I consider unemployment pay compensation.

WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Sun, Jun 5, 2011 6:56:15am

It's a very Victorian world, and when I was writing Spook Country I kept running up against that feeling that the world I'm actually trying to predict is becoming more Victorian, not less. Less middle class, more like Mexico, more like Mexico City. And I think that's probably not a good direction.

—William Gibson, in interview with Amazon.com

Obdicut Sun, Jun 5, 2011 6:56:49am

re: #42 Cannadian Club Akbar

I consider unemployment pay compensation.

Okay. Well, it's not-- it's a fund that both the worker and the company pays into over time. Compensation is money given voluntarily (or obliged by contract) by the company to an employee when they're let go. It's independent from unemployment insurance.

So, it really does look like the person was right; you can fire someone for 'no reason' in Florida, since it's a "at-will" state.

California is the same way.

King of the Douche, now you may bow Sun, Jun 5, 2011 7:03:58am

re: #44 Obdicut

I know some companies here gave compensation to laid off employees (Aurthur Anderson comes to mind) with 6 moths of bennies. I also know my step dad was laid off after 20 years and they told him they wouldn't fight if he filed for unemployment.
I worked for a company for 3 1/2 years, got fired/laid off and they fought it. I received 1 unemployment check. They fought it. The state then sent me a letter saying they wanted the money back that was sent to me. Ya, that'll happen.

darthstar Sun, Jun 5, 2011 7:06:37am

Salutations, citizens.

Obdicut Sun, Jun 5, 2011 7:06:58am

re: #45 Cannadian Club Akbar

Yeah, so, you see, compensation is independent from unemployment insurance-- which itself is no sure thing. A friend of mine got fired 'for cause' after showing up drunk after the death of his son, and had to fight for months and months for his unemployment insurance-- on the rationale that having put in 15 years of good work shouldn't get obviated by a single bad episode.

By the way, in Florida, it looks like Florida is even more at-will than California; California has the implied contract exception, whereas Florida doesn't.

So, in California, if the employee manual lays out the steps that have to be used to fire someone, that's an implied contract. In Florida, it's not. So be careful; that Craigslist poster was right, even if the employee handbook sets out a certain path for firing people, it doesn't actually have to be followed unless it forms part of an actual contract.

King of the Douche, now you may bow Sun, Jun 5, 2011 7:12:57am

re: #47 Obdicut

I go by what I know. The companies I have worked for explain the companies policies as far as fire able offenses during orientation. I wanna say the employee signs a paper that said he/she understood what was said at the orientation. But I haven't worked for a major corporation in 16 years.

Varek Raith Sun, Jun 5, 2011 7:15:57am

re: #46 darthstar

Salutations, citizens.

I'm an illegal extraterrestrial.

Obdicut Sun, Jun 5, 2011 7:16:23am

re: #48 Cannadian Club Akbar

I go by what I know. The companies I have worked for explain the companies policies as far as fire able offenses during orientation

Well, read the Wiki article that I linked. It doesn't matter if they explain the policies, it's not actually a legally binding policy. They can still fire someone in violation of their own policy.

I wanna say the employee signs a paper that said he/she understood what was said at the orientation.

If they have an actual contract, that overrides at-will employment, obviously. But most of those 'these are the ways you can get fired' say that those are things that will get you fired, and still reserve the right to fire you at-will.

King of the Douche, now you may bow Sun, Jun 5, 2011 7:20:08am

re: #50 Obdicut

Alrighty. Guess I've never worked for someone who just tells me to leave. Major corps always cover their asses when dealing with unemployment. Which is why I said earlier that companies will document/write up employees.

funky chicken Sun, Jun 5, 2011 7:21:58am

Eww. The ad is for an "anti-Romneycare Ron Paul moneybomb."

Obdicut Sun, Jun 5, 2011 7:22:21am

re: #51 Cannadian Club Akbar

Yes, they do. That's the purpose of their policies, mostly, to avoid paying unemployment. However, that Craigslist poster was actually right; Florida companies can fire people without cause.

darthstar Sun, Jun 5, 2011 7:23:35am

re: #47 Obdicut

So, in California, if the employee manual lays out the steps that have to be used to fire someone, that's an implied contract. In Florida, it's not. So be careful; that Craigslist poster was right, even if the employee handbook sets out a certain path for firing people, it doesn't actually have to be followed unless it forms part of an actual contract.

I've got an employee who is "on his way out"...I was going to put him on a Performance Improvement Plan (PIP) but learned, when talking to corporate HR about how long a period to set it up for that it was all abritrary. I don't need to PIP him at all. I do need to hire someone who can fill his role on my team, so he'll be around until that happens.

I just got rid of another employee who wasn't delivering - lots of talk, no results. Fortunately, he self-selected himself out. Told me he needed to work from home 3 days a week to take care of his child because his wife didn't like putting her in daycare (she works full-time too). Then he said he was having a hard time doing the amount of work I was asking of him (writing automation test cases and executing them) with all his family responsibilities, so we needed to reduce his load or he would have to quit. I accepted his ultimatum and wished him well. Dumb bastard gave up 124k a year because his wife and mother-in-law didn't like taking a two year old to child care.

darthstar Sun, Jun 5, 2011 7:24:21am

re: #49 Varek Raith

I'm an illegal extraterrestrial.

My leader is out of the office today...you'll have to try back later.

Killgore Trout Sun, Jun 5, 2011 7:24:44am

The Palestinians are testing out their new gimmick of rushing the borders and getting themselves killed again...

Israel fires tear gas, warning shots at protest in Golan Heights

Israeli troops fired tear gas and warning shots as protesters tried to cross the heavily fortified border between Syria and the Golan Heights, the Israeli military said Sunday.

Syrian television said six protesters were killed and dozens were wounded in the Palestinian protests marking the anniversary of the 1967 Six Day War.

King of the Douche, now you may bow Sun, Jun 5, 2011 7:27:01am

re: #54 darthstar

If I ever give up 124K/year, please slap me. But not until then.:)

darthstar Sun, Jun 5, 2011 7:27:08am

re: #56 Killgore Trout

The Palestinians are testing out their new gimmick of rushing the borders and getting themselves killed again...

I can see why they'd shoot protesters...fences are expensive to fix.

Killgore Trout Sun, Jun 5, 2011 7:31:09am

re: #58 darthstar

I can see why they'd shoot protesters...fences are expensive to fix.

I'm sure they're all just peace activists anyways.
/

PhillyPretzel Sun, Jun 5, 2011 7:34:05am

re: #56 Killgore Trout
Article from The Wall Street Journal about same incident: [Link: online.wsj.com...]

darthstar Sun, Jun 5, 2011 7:34:20am

re: #59 Killgore Trout

I'm sure they're all just peace activists anyways.
/

You'd think that a group of people willing to die for their cause and a group of people willing to kill for theirs would be mutually compatible.

I know this isn't a joking matter, but what would be the worst thing that could happen if the protesters were allowed to just jump up and down behind the fence shouting (maybe tear down a few sections) and burn themselves out after six or eight hours? It's a protest - not an invasion.

darthstar Sun, Jun 5, 2011 7:38:16am

re: #60 PhillyPretzel

Article from The Wall Street Journal about same incident: [Link: online.wsj.com...]

According to the Israel army, protesters gathered in the morning at a hilltop on the Syrian side of the border within walking distance of the Golan Heights village of Majdal Shams. When the demonstrators began to march toward the border, soldiers tried to ward them off with verbal warnings and by firing into the air, said the spokesperson. Ignoring the calls, dozens of demonstrators then crossed the Syrian border and continued toward the Israeli line through the United Nations-monitored demilitarized zone.

"IDF forces were left with no choice but to open fire," said an army spokeswoman, who accused the Syrian government of permitting a border "provocation" in order to distract attention from the weeks-long revolt against the regime of President Bashar Assad.

Somehow, I think arresting processing, and deporting would be one other option to consider.

Okay...taking an internet break for now. See you all later.

ElCapitanAmerica Sun, Jun 5, 2011 7:41:57am

re: #54 darthstar

You guys are paying a tester/QA person 124K a year? That's crazy!!!

ElCapitanAmerica Sun, Jun 5, 2011 7:43:59am

Back to politics.

So I missed the Ice Queen's interview on Fox this morning, but it seems she (predictably) doubled-down on her version of the Paul Revere story.

Which is why this article got her exactly right;
[Link: blogs.forbes.com...]

Many politicians, of all political parties, make mistakes in speeches. That would certainly include the President and, even more certainly, the Vice-President.

But what they all tend to have in common is that, once the mistake is brought to their attention, they apologize for their error and set the record straight.

I can only think of two politicians on the scene today who do otherwise.

Michele Bachmann simply clams up after some of her super-goofs and moves on, preferring to rely on the flub being forgotten when the news cycle passes.

Sarah Palin, on the other hand, likes to double-down and dig the hole deeper. Not only does she not apologize for mistakes, she drags it out by defending the errors and encouraging her followers to do the same. She knows that her people believe pretty much anything she says so accuracy is not a high priority to her.

Killgore Trout Sun, Jun 5, 2011 7:44:08am

re: #61 darthstar

You'd think that a group of people willing to die for their cause and a group of people willing to kill for theirs would be mutually compatible.

I know this isn't a joking matter, but what would be the worst thing that could happen if the protesters were allowed to just jump up and down behind the fence shouting (maybe tear down a few sections) and burn themselves out after six or eight hours? It's a protest - not an invasion.

Because if the Israelis establish the precedent that they'll allow mobs of people to tear down sections of fence and cross over the Palestinians will use that as a method to resume suicide bombings inside of Israel. The border fence is the only thing preventing suicide bombings and to let Palestinians cross at will just defeats the purpose.
No other country in the world would allow this. Why should Israel be expected to allow it?

Lidane Sun, Jun 5, 2011 7:44:15am

El Oh El....someone actually encouraged Frank Gaffney to run for POTUS.

That would be a hoot. And it would make the debates even more hilarious.

Lidane Sun, Jun 5, 2011 7:46:11am

Also, Rick Santorum continues to be a frothy mix of fail:

Rick Santorum: Obama’s Support For Entitlements Shows He Doesn’t Believe America Is Exceptional

PhillyPretzel Sun, Jun 5, 2011 7:48:43am

re: #67 Lidane
Oh gee Rick is opening his mouth again. oy.

Varek Raith Sun, Jun 5, 2011 7:53:36am

re: #67 Lidane

Also, Rick Santorum continues to be a frothy mix of fail:

Rick Santorum: Obama’s Support For Entitlements Shows He Doesn’t Believe America Is Exceptional

American Exceptionalism.
What nonsense.

Obdicut Sun, Jun 5, 2011 7:55:16am

re: #69 Varek Raith

Exceptionlism is something we create for ourselves.

Like, for example, a nation that did its best to give all its citizens a chance, to feed hungry children, to help those who are direly sick and unable to work, to provide health care for its citizens-- that's an exceptional society.

darthstar Sun, Jun 5, 2011 7:55:29am

re: #65 Killgore Trout

No other country in the world would allow this. Why should Israel be expected to allow it?

See America, United States of.

Obdicut Sun, Jun 5, 2011 8:05:59am

re: #71 darthstar

If a bunch of people tried to storm across one of the security checkpoints on the border with Mexico, I'm fairly sure that we would, indeed, tear gas them and fire rubber bullets at them.

Now, if people stormed from the Canadian side, we'd probably be taken by surprise and they'd be lopping our heads off with razor-sharp ice skates before we could say "Eh?"

In fact, we have used tear gas at the Mexico border.

[Link: www.npr.org...]

and that's using it in response to rock throwing, not a crowd rushing the border.

Killgore Trout Sun, Jun 5, 2011 8:09:35am

re: #72 Obdicut

It's also worth noting that the Syrian government will kill many more of its own people today than Israel.

Killgore Trout Sun, Jun 5, 2011 8:14:12am

Zionist stink water.

A Palestinian protester is sprayed with water containing a foul smelling substance fired by Israeli troops during clashes at Qalandiya checkpoint, near the West Bank city of Ramallah June 5, 2011.

BongCrodny Sun, Jun 5, 2011 8:20:17am

re: #67 Lidane

Also, Rick Santorum continues to be a frothy mix of fail:

Rick Santorum: Obama’s Support For Entitlements Shows He Doesn’t Believe America Is Exceptional

I just wish some reporter would ask "If America is so exceptional, how come we can't afford anything anymore?"

Killgore Trout Sun, Jun 5, 2011 8:20:28am

Meanwhile this is what the Syrian government is up to today....

Liveleak Video

No stink water, no tear gas and i'm guessing those aren't rubber bullets.

Killgore Trout Sun, Jun 5, 2011 8:24:45am

Although the frogs have made a huge dent in the slug population there are still too many slugs to grow my edible mushrooms. A promising looking mushroom popped up yesterday but was attacked by slugs last night. I have about 100 tadpoles in the pond so my slug problem should be over in a few months.

Killgore Trout Sun, Jun 5, 2011 8:26:32am

The wingnut outrageous outrage of the day...
What would Michelle say? President Obama wolfs down TWO chili dogs and fries... the day after his wife unveils new dietary guide
Wienergate!

PhillyPretzel Sun, Jun 5, 2011 8:27:21am

re: #77 Killgore Trout
I forgot where I saw it but I believe there is a slug trap that uses beer to bait the slimy things.

funky chicken Sun, Jun 5, 2011 8:28:14am

re: #78 Killgore Trout

He's skinny, and probably eats healthy for most meals. It's kinda weird how obsessed these people are with Obama's dining habits.

Killgore Trout Sun, Jun 5, 2011 8:28:57am

re: #79 PhillyPretzel

I forgot where I saw it but I believe there is a slug trap that uses beer to bait the slimy things.

It really doesn't work very well. It catches some slugs but about 50% drink their fill of beer and crawl away. I got tired of feeding perfectly good beer to those bastards.

Obdicut Sun, Jun 5, 2011 8:29:59am

re: #78 Killgore Trout

I must have missed the speech Michelle gave where she said every meal you eat for the rest of your life has to be healthy or you suck.

darthstar Sun, Jun 5, 2011 8:30:13am

re: #79 PhillyPretzel

I forgot where I saw it but I believe there is a slug trap that uses beer to bait the slimy things.

My grandmother used to use beer traps for slugs...she'd set an alumium pie plate over the tray of beer to keep it from getting watered down by rain or sprinklers. It would fill with slugs in a couple of days. Just noticed our two Coleus by the front door have slug damage...may have to put out a trap or two myself.

Four More Tears Sun, Jun 5, 2011 8:30:18am

re: #78 Killgore Trout

The wingnut outrageous outrage of the day...
What would Michelle say? President Obama wolfs down TWO chili dogs and fries... the day after his wife unveils new dietary guide
Wienergate!

And if he were scarfing down a veggie-burger they'd say the guy was whipped.

Killgore Trout Sun, Jun 5, 2011 8:30:41am

re: #80 funky chicken

He's skinny, and probably eats healthy for most meals. It's kinda weird how obsessed these people are with Obama's dining habits.

They are also missing the point. You can eat chilidogs and fries guilt free if you eat healthy most of the time. You just can't do it every day.

PhillyPretzel Sun, Jun 5, 2011 8:30:42am

re: #81 Killgore Trout
Okay. I do not have much of a garden.

King of the Douche, now you may bow Sun, Jun 5, 2011 8:31:22am

re: #78 Killgore Trout

The wingnut outrageous outrage of the day...
What would Michelle say? President Obama wolfs down TWO chili dogs and fries... the day after his wife unveils new dietary guide
Wienergate!

Chili dogs actually have all 4 food groups when made proper. Dog/chili=meat/protein. Dairy isn't in the new list. Bun=grains. Tomatoes used to make the chili=fruit. Onions=vegggies.

Vicious Babushka Sun, Jun 5, 2011 8:32:34am

re: #78 Killgore Trout

The wingnut outrageous outrage of the day...
What would Michelle say? President Obama wolfs down TWO chili dogs and fries... the day after his wife unveils new dietary guide
Wienergate!

I saw that. What's the problem? Chili dogs are awesome.

funky chicken Sun, Jun 5, 2011 8:33:57am

re: #78 Killgore Trout

Holy cow, the comments to that article....morons

Killgore Trout Sun, Jun 5, 2011 8:34:03am

Instapundit wonders why the British press are the ones to blow the lid off the great chili dog scandal. A letter from a reader....

This is one of the many little revolutions brought on by the Internet and Web. As the Clinton administration discovered, the existence of well-written, well-researched newspapers in English, readily available to the American reader, but beyond their ability to control, threaten, or manipulate has permanently changed the media landscape. Merely by being able to read the British press, we start to see how much the American press has always been manipulated by the American political establishment.
Somebody should write a book about this.

King of the Douche, now you may bow Sun, Jun 5, 2011 8:34:43am

re: #88 Alouette

I saw that. What's the problem? Chili dogs are awesome.

True. And this chili sauce, which is the best, is actually made from pinto beans.
[Link: www.castleberrys.com...]

Political Atheist Sun, Jun 5, 2011 8:35:41am

Good morning from gray Sunday Los Angeles. Just to start my morning I put this on. Candyrat Records net radio.

[Link: www.candyrat.com...]

Obdicut Sun, Jun 5, 2011 8:35:43am

re: #89 funky chicken

Yep. And the few reasonable ones:

It's about the totality of one's diet, not about one meal. The President is fit, active and healthy. He can afford a little All-American food once in awhile. This is a non-story designed just to make the president look bad. Pointless post.
- Monica Edwards, Deer Park, TX, 04/6/2011 21:53

was downrated at negative 608.

Sol Berdinowitz Sun, Jun 5, 2011 8:36:09am

re: #32 Cannadian Club Akbar

. What I find amusing is that the poster probably believes what he/she wrote, and others will take the post as gospel and the stupidity will continue.

The Interwebs makes it easy to obtain information, the challenge lies in obtaining verification and qualification of the informtation.

Whever I relate anything I have heard, I make a point of adding where I read it or heard it.

Four More Tears Sun, Jun 5, 2011 8:36:19am

re: #90 Killgore Trout

Instapundit wonders why the British press are the ones to blow the lid off the great chili dog scandal. A letter from a reader...

WHY WONT CNN REPORT ON THE CHILLY DAWGZ??!?!!??!1?!

King of the Douche, now you may bow Sun, Jun 5, 2011 8:37:14am

re: #95 JasonA

It will part of Fox News Special report.
/

King of the Douche, now you may bow Sun, Jun 5, 2011 8:40:03am

re: #96 Cannadian Club Akbar

It will part be of Fox News Special report.
/

King of the Douche, now you may bow Sun, Jun 5, 2011 8:41:49am

Wow. I suck.

darthstar Sun, Jun 5, 2011 8:43:40am

re: #98 Cannadian Club Akbar

Wow. I suck.

But you don't suck enough to work for Fox.

100

King of the Douche, now you may bow Sun, Jun 5, 2011 8:44:25am

re: #99 darthstar

But you don't suck enough to work for Fox.

I'm also not blond.

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sattv4u2 Sun, Jun 5, 2011 8:45:41am

re: #100 Cannadian Club Akbar

I'm also not blond.

Keep working the docks, you soon will be!

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jaunte Sun, Jun 5, 2011 8:47:03am

re: #93 Obdicut

Always nice to see some reasonable voices coming out of Texas.

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King of the Douche, now you may bow Sun, Jun 5, 2011 8:47:46am

re: #101 sattv4u2

Keep working the docks, you soon will be!

I usually wear a wig when working the docks. Wait, what?
/

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Killgore Trout Sun, Jun 5, 2011 8:50:03am

[Link: www.daylife.com...]

A wounded protester is dragged away from the Syrian-Israeli border near the Druze village of Majdal Shams in the Golan Heights June 5, 2011.

Notice the Peaceful Protester is in full military camouflage uniform.

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darthstar Sun, Jun 5, 2011 8:50:49am

re: #100 Cannadian Club Akbar

I'm also not blond.

But you do have a sense of fashion.
Image: epic-fail-fashion-fail.jpg

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PhillyPretzel Sun, Jun 5, 2011 8:51:49am

re: #105 darthstar
eww.

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King of the Douche, now you may bow Sun, Jun 5, 2011 8:52:00am

re: #105 darthstar

But you do have a sense of fashion.
Image: epic-fail-fashion-fail.jpg

I was drunk and needed the money!!

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sattv4u2 Sun, Jun 5, 2011 8:52:23am

re: #105 darthstar

But you do have a sense of fashion.
Image: epic-fail-fashion-fail.jpg

That you even knew that photo existed is very alarming

NTTAWWT!!!!

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King of the Douche, now you may bow Sun, Jun 5, 2011 8:52:49am

re: #104 Killgore Trout

[Link: www.daylife.com...]

Notice the Peaceful Protester is in full military camouflage uniform.

I'm sure his pack he was carrying was full of lollipops and Twinkies.

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sattv4u2 Sun, Jun 5, 2011 8:54:10am

re: #104 Killgore Trout

[Link: www.daylife.com...]

Notice the Peaceful Protester is in full military camouflage uniform.

C'mon,, kids here flock to Army/Navy surplus stores for their duds all the time!!

Palestinian protesters in Syria who rushed towards a border fence

ummm,, maybe they were using the fence as a finish line for the 100 yard dash!!

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darthstar Sun, Jun 5, 2011 8:54:17am

re: #108 sattv4u2

That you even knew that photo existed is very alarming

NTTAWWT!!!

I was looking for a different photo but saw that one and knew it was right for the occasion.

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Political Atheist Sun, Jun 5, 2011 8:56:07am

This reminds me of Jeff Beck

Ray Montford spirit runner

Youtube Video

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sattv4u2 Sun, Jun 5, 2011 8:56:20am

re: #111 darthstar

I was looking for a different photo but saw that one and knew it was right for the occasion.

Don't EVEN tell me what your GOOGLE search parameters were!!

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BongCrodny Sun, Jun 5, 2011 8:58:41am

re: #111 darthstar

I was looking for a different photo but saw that one and knew it was right for the occasion.

I would have thought it better for the Andrew Breitbart/James O'Keefe thread, but you would have needed two asses for that one.

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darthstar Sun, Jun 5, 2011 8:59:41am

re: #113 sattv4u2

Don't EVEN tell me what your GOOGLE search parameters were!!

"epic fail" - that's it.
I really like this one...wish I could get a full-size copy without the fail caption for my desktop wallpaper.

Image: the_epic_fail.jpg

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Varek Raith Sun, Jun 5, 2011 9:07:00am

Kristol Stumbles Onto The Truth: GOP Shouldn’t Focus On Corporate Taxes, ‘Corporations Have A Ton Of Cash’

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Obdicut Sun, Jun 5, 2011 9:07:22am

re: #115 darthstar

Why, what's the dolphin going to do to him?

Is it rape? Dolphins like rape.

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Obdicut Sun, Jun 5, 2011 9:08:13am

re: #116 Varek Raith

Kristol Stumbles Onto The Truth: GOP Shouldn’t Focus On Corporate Taxes, ‘Corporations Have A Ton Of Cash’

The GOP desire to let corporations move money out of the US is a very odd one.

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sattv4u2 Sun, Jun 5, 2011 9:08:33am

re: #115 darthstar

"epic fail" - that's it.
I really like this one...wish I could get a full-size copy without the fail caption for my desktop wallpaper.

Image: the_epic_fail.jpg

For some strange reason I can't convince my wife to let me have this one

[Link: modernfamilytvseries.blogspot.com...]

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jaunte Sun, Jun 5, 2011 9:08:51am

re: #116 Varek Raith

Republicans are not only looking to cut the corporate tax rate, but they have been pushing to open a permanent tax loophole by switching to what’s known as a “territorial” corporate tax system, which would mean that corporations could permanently park money offshore and never pay taxes on it.

Exceptionalism!

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darthstar Sun, Jun 5, 2011 9:13:56am

re: #117 Obdicut

Why, what's the dolphin going to do to him?

Is it rape? Dolphins like rape.

Heh...good eye...I wasn't paying close enough attention. That is a dolphin.

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Political Atheist Sun, Jun 5, 2011 9:16:11am

HarshPalin movie review-NY Post
Excerpt
If you’re hopeful (or worried) that this movie is the secret trigger for a Palin relaunch, don’t be. Even if you fixed the blaring soundtrack and took out all the symbols of the cataclysmic evil opposing Palin (barking dogs, disaster footage, a closeup of Rosie O’Donnell), you’d still be left with a hopeless sputtering jumble.

Paged

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Lidane Sun, Jun 5, 2011 9:17:47am

re: #118 Obdicut

The GOP desire to let corporations move money out of the US is a very odd one.

Especially since they constantly beat the populist drum about how great America and American products are. You'd think they'd want to keep all that corporate cash here instead.

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sattv4u2 Sun, Jun 5, 2011 9:17:54am

re: #121 darthstar

Heh...good eye...I wasn't paying close enough attention. That is a dolphin.

They're all not Flipper!!

Killer dolphins baffle marine experts
[Link: www.telegraph.co.uk...]

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King of the Douche, now you may bow Sun, Jun 5, 2011 9:19:06am

re: #117 Obdicut

Why, what's the dolphin going to do to him?

Is it rape? Dolphins like rape.

Dolphin rape.

Youtube Video

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Varek Raith Sun, Jun 5, 2011 9:19:32am

re: #123 Lidane

Especially since they constantly beat the populist drum about how great America and American products are. You'd think they'd want to keep all that corporate cash here instead.

To the GOP corporations >>> America

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sattv4u2 Sun, Jun 5, 2011 9:20:28am

re: #125 Cannadian Club Akbar

Dolphin rape.

[Video]

NOTE TO SELF

next time I go snorkeling, do NOT put a can of sardines in my shorts!

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King of the Douche, now you may bow Sun, Jun 5, 2011 9:21:09am

re: #127 sattv4u2

NOTE TO SELF

next time I go snorkeling, do NOT put a can of sardines in my shorts!

Ya. Stick with the shrimp that's already there.
/

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Lidane Sun, Jun 5, 2011 9:21:15am

re: #126 Varek Raith

To the GOP corporations >>> America

Exceptionalism!

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ElCapitanAmerica Sun, Jun 5, 2011 9:25:05am

“You know what, I didn’t mess up about Paul Revere,” she said. “Here is what Paul Revere did. He warned the Americans that ‘the British were coming, the British were coming’ and they were going to try to take our arms. We got to make sure that we were protecting ourselves and shoring up all of our ammunitions and our fire arms so they couldn’t take it.”
“But remember, the British had been there,” Palin said. “Many soldiers for seven years in that area. Part of Paul Revere’s ride — it wasn’t just one ride — he was a courier, he was a messenger. Part of the ride was to warn British we’re already there. That, ‘Hey, you are not going to succeed. You are not going to take American arms. You are not going to beat our own well-armed persons, individual, private militia that we have.’ He did warn the British. And in a shout out, gotcha question that was asked of me, I answered candidly. And I know my American history.”

HAHAHAHA!!!

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PhillyPretzel Sun, Jun 5, 2011 9:27:39am

re: #130 ElCapitanAmerica
Obviously she never read Longfellow.

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jaunte Sun, Jun 5, 2011 9:27:56am

re: #130 ElCapitanAmerica

shoring up all of our ammunitions
and our fire arms so they couldn’t take it

English as a second language?

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ElCapitanAmerica Sun, Jun 5, 2011 9:29:28am

re: #132 jaunte

That's a cut and paste from this Daily Caller article, video embedded there.

[Link: dailycaller.com...]

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PhillyPretzel Sun, Jun 5, 2011 9:29:54am

re: #132 jaunte
The mouth is going and the brain cannot keep up.

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darthstar Sun, Jun 5, 2011 9:31:21am

re: #130 ElCapitanAmerica

HAHAHAHA!!!

So it was a "shout out, gotcha question"...I guess that deserves yet another exclusive on Fox to defend her stupidity. Insecurity is just a way of life for her.

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darthstar Sun, Jun 5, 2011 9:33:57am

re: #133 ElCapitanAmerica

That's a cut and paste from this Daily Caller article, video embedded there.

[Link: dailycaller.com...]

I love the 8bit graphic background...she looks like she's on a 70s children's science show on PBS...floating mysteriously in space.

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jaunte Sun, Jun 5, 2011 9:34:59am

re: #133 ElCapitanAmerica

More from your link:

Even your own Shep Smith there on Fox News – he announced the other day I was on some publicity tour. I wanted to say, Shep, take it one step further. What am I publicizing on tour? I’m publicizing Americana and our foundation and how important is it we learn about our past and our challenges and victories throughout American history so that we can successfully proceed forward very heady days, rough waters ahead of us, Chris.
[Link: dailycaller.com...]

A Great Americanan, proceeding forward very heady days!

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sattv4u2 Sun, Jun 5, 2011 9:35:35am

re: #132 jaunte

English as a second language?

re: #133 ElCapitanAmerica

That's a cut and paste from this Daily Caller article, video embedded there.

[Link: dailycaller.com...]

So Jeff Poors' "primary language" should be questioned!?!?

//(kinda)

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Obdicut Sun, Jun 5, 2011 9:35:41am

re: #130 ElCapitanAmerica

Oy.

And, it's a minor detail, but since she'd doubling-down:

He didn't warn that the British were coming. The American Colonists at that time period almost all though of themselves as British. That was what the war started from, not from an idea of independence, but that they wanted to be recognized and treated as full British subjects.

I like this bit:

Part of the ride was to warn British we’re already there.

Hey Brits! The Americans are in America already! Bet you didn't see that one coming!

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Varek Raith Sun, Jun 5, 2011 9:36:12am

re: #139 Obdicut

Oy.

And, it's a minor detail, but since she'd doubling-down:

He didn't warn that the British were coming. The American Colonists at that time period almost all though of themselves as British. That was what the war started from, not from an idea of independence, but that they wanted to be recognized and treated as full British subjects.

I like this bit:

Hey Brits! The Americans are in America already! Bet you didn't see that one coming!

Lol

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darthstar Sun, Jun 5, 2011 9:36:43am

Clip ends with Chris Wallace saying, "I take you at your word that you wanted to celebrate America's history..." "I take you at your word"...where have I heard that before?

MSNBC Video

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PhillyPretzel Sun, Jun 5, 2011 9:37:12am

re: #139 Obdicut

re: #140 Varek Raith

Motormouthitis.

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Spocomptonite Sun, Jun 5, 2011 9:39:31am

re: #85 Killgore Trout

They are also missing the point. You can eat chilidogs and fries guilt free if you eat healthy most of the time. You just can't do it every day.

Also exercise. Hell, I'm 150 lbs and can eat a whole pizza by myself, but then again I probably burn off more calories in a single cycling ride than is suggested for most people to ingest in an entire day.

Sometimes two people.

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sattv4u2 Sun, Jun 5, 2011 9:39:32am

re: #139 Obdicut

The British are coming, but they've already been here for years, seeing that WE are the British, so I have no idea if we, or they, or US are coming or going!!!
//

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Varek Raith Sun, Jun 5, 2011 9:39:34am

re: #142 PhillyPretzel

re: #140 Varek Raith

Motormouthitis.

Digginahole syndrome.

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lawhawk Sun, Jun 5, 2011 9:41:42am

re: #65 Killgore Trout

You're assuming that these are Palestinians, but I'd say that if they're coming from Syria, they're Syrians until proven otherwise. Assad's using them as a diversion to his slaughter of the opposition throughout the country, and he figures that if he gets something started along the Israel border, so much the better to regain control as the media focuses on Israel and not on his regime.

Thus far, all reports of casualties are coming from Syria - not Israel. Israeli media (and every other media outlet) has no other source to verify casualties.

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sattv4u2 Sun, Jun 5, 2011 9:42:00am

re: #143 Spocomptonite

Also exercise. Hell, I'm 150 lbs and can eat a whole pizza by myself, but then again I probably burn off more calories in a single cycling ride than is suggested for most people to ingest in an entire day.

Sometimes two people.

Show off

I get winded watching the old couple from across the street walk to their mailbox!

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BongCrodny Sun, Jun 5, 2011 9:42:47am

re: #144 sattv4u2

The British are coming, but they've already been here for years, seeing that WE are the British, so I have no idea if we, or they, or US are coming or going!!!
//

...and now for something completely different.

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zora Sun, Jun 5, 2011 9:43:13am

re: #60 PhillyPretzel

Article from The Wall Street Journal about same incident: [Link: online.wsj.com...]

According to the Israel army, protesters gathered in the morning at a hilltop on the Syrian side of the border within walking distance of the Golan Heights village of Majdal Shams. When the demonstrators began to march toward the border, soldiers tried to ward them off with verbal warnings and by firing into the air, said the spokesperson. Ignoring the calls, dozens of demonstrators then crossed the Syrian border and continued toward the Israeli line through the United Nations-monitored demilitarized zone.

"IDF forces were left with no choice but to open fire," said an army spokeswoman, who accused the Syrian government of permitting a border "provocation" in order to distract attention from the weeks-long revolt against the regime of President Bashar Assad.

from the link.

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ElCapitanAmerica Sun, Jun 5, 2011 9:44:08am

I'm surprised she didn't bring up the obscure Revere letter the Palin blogger defense league dug up. So she refuses to read books and even her own fan mail! She actually threw her defenders under the bus! Now they're going to have to DIG UP something to justify the claim that part of his mission (part of the ride as Palin says) was give the redcoats and warning/ultimatum!

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Spocomptonite Sun, Jun 5, 2011 9:45:23am

re: #130 ElCapitanAmerica

“You know what, I didn’t mess up about Paul Revere,” she said. “Here is what Paul Revere did. He warned the Americans that ‘the British were coming, the British were coming’ and they were going to try to take our arms. We got to make sure that we were protecting ourselves and shoring up all of our ammunitions and our fire arms so they couldn’t take it.”

“But remember, the British had been there,” Palin said. “Many soldiers for seven years in that area. Part of Paul Revere’s ride — it wasn’t just one ride — he was a courier, he was a messenger. Part of the ride was to warn British we’re already there. That, ‘Hey, you are not going to succeed. You are not going to take American arms. You are not going to beat our own well-armed persons, individual, private militia that we have.’ He did warn the British. And in a shout out, gotcha question that was asked of me, I answered candidly. And I know my American history.”

Oh gawd, someone could make soooooo many awesome T-shirts using quoted excerpts. Or a satirical illustrated children's book about American History as Mama Grizzly Sees It. SOMEBODY NEEDS TO DO THIS

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lawhawk Sun, Jun 5, 2011 9:45:32am

re: #149 zora

Moreover, Lebanon has taken steps to prevent further border incidents with Israel by declaring the area a military zone, but Syria's doing everything imaginable to precipitate another incident and raise the butcher's bill among Syrians or Palestinians.

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Spocomptonite Sun, Jun 5, 2011 9:48:11am

re: #147 sattv4u2

Show off

I get winded watching the old couple from across the street walk to their mailbox!

If it makes you feel better, I'm injured and can't cycle right now; in fact I have trouble lifting a gallon of milk OMG it's soooo heavy and like the biggest athletic accomplishment of my day.

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Obdicut Sun, Jun 5, 2011 9:49:18am

re: #150 ElCapitanAmerica

Yeah. Revere planned on being captured by the British. Totally! And then he just was all "You're not going to get our guns," rather than lying to them about how many militiamen were already assembled to confuse and deceive them.

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jaunte Sun, Jun 5, 2011 9:49:40am

re: #151 Spocomptonite

I'd just like to see her describe the process of shoring up ammunition.

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Mostly sane, most of the time. Sun, Jun 5, 2011 9:50:23am

Okay, I just learned something on wikipedia. I knew that Revere had been captured and never made it to Concord (he did make it to Lexington). I knew that someone had made it to Concord, but I thought it was the other man that started out with him, Dawes.

It was another man that they had run into who was, um, coming home at 1 am.

Revere lost his (borrowed) horse, but did manage to find Sam Adams and John Hancock to warn them, which was very important for the Revolutionary cause at that time.

Not sure where this fits in with Ms. Palin's

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Mostly sane, most of the time. Sun, Jun 5, 2011 9:51:46am

re: #156 EmmmieG

ideas.

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sattv4u2 Sun, Jun 5, 2011 9:52:19am

re: #153 Spocomptonite

If it makes you feel better, I'm injured and can't cycle right now
No, not particularly!!

I have trouble lifting a gallon of milk

Welcome to my world. I have an as yet to be diagnosed upper back/ shoulder/neck/left arm strain/pain/pull/muscle/nerve problem that depending on the angle of my arm at any given time results in a stabbing pain behind my left shoulder blade!

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sattv4u2 Sun, Jun 5, 2011 9:54:10am

re: #152 lawhawk

I have an idea!

Lets make sure that in any negotiations the Israelis give up the Golan Heights

THAT will make the region safer!!

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Spocomptonite Sun, Jun 5, 2011 9:55:14am

re: #155 jaunte

I'd just like to see her describe the process of shoring up ammunition.

Yeah. Either she'd mention musket balls and probably give an unintentionally hilarious sexual innuendo word salad, or she'd assume modern ammunition/cartridges/magazines and be unintentionally hilarious again.

Or she would include an actual shore. They shored shells at the sea shore?

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Spocomptonite Sun, Jun 5, 2011 9:57:33am

re: #158 sattv4u2

If it makes you feel better, I'm injured and can't cycle right now
No, not particularly!!

I have trouble lifting a gallon of milk

Welcome to my world. I have an as yet to be diagnosed upper back/ shoulder/neck/left arm strain/pain/pull/muscle/nerve problem that depending on the angle of my arm at any given time results in a stabbing pain behind my left shoulder blade!

Then to us and getting better! These central nervous systems are just too centralized if you ask me.

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hugh59 Sun, Jun 5, 2011 3:49:49pm

This is the end. Beautiful friend, the end.

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Dancing along the light of day Sun, Jun 5, 2011 3:50:37pm

re: #162 hugh59

You wanted the last post, or what?

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