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1 Charles Johnson  Fri, Jun 17, 2011 5:30:05pm

Check out the earth-shaking new look for the Tag Cloud, in the left sidebar. Now with much more cloud-like appearance, thanks to CSS 3 background color opacity manipulations and other subtle CSS effects.

You’ll feel as if you’re flying through the clouds above Paris, France.

2 wrenchwench  Fri, Jun 17, 2011 5:32:25pm

re: #1 Charles

Fluffy!

3 sod  Fri, Jun 17, 2011 5:34:37pm

I miss the days of the 1x1 pixel transparent .gif and when it was cool to use tables for layout.

4 Charles Johnson  Fri, Jun 17, 2011 5:36:52pm

re: #3 sod

I miss the days of the 1x1 pixel transparent .gif and when it was cool to use tables for layout.

I sure don’t.

I actually looked recently at the code for a table based design I did for a client long ago. The horror.

Looked great in all the hot browsers - Internet Explorer 5, Netscape 4, and even IE5 for the Mac. But a freaking nightmare to maintain.

Those were not the days.

5 researchok  Fri, Jun 17, 2011 5:38:49pm

No cloud on my screen

6 researchok  Fri, Jun 17, 2011 5:39:23pm

Never mind.

I got it

7 researchok  Fri, Jun 17, 2011 5:40:54pm

Bad Craziness, Republican Party, Right Wing

For better or worse, that about sums it up as of late.

8 sod  Fri, Jun 17, 2011 5:48:21pm

re: #4 Charles

I guess I forgot my sarc tag! I know design patterns and best practices have improved for the better - but complexity has increased as well.

I do think that CSS still requires (required?) sort of ugly hacks for obtaining certain layouts that you’d think would be simple out of the box. Like columns that extend to the bottom of the page even though your content doesn’t and the 3 column liquid layout with fixed sides and variable width middle… or something like that.

I haven’t done enough presentation code to really speak to the current state of things - it just seems like at first, some common layouts which could easily be accomplished with tables were much more difficult and unreliable across browsers with CSS.

9 albusteve  Fri, Jun 17, 2011 5:48:24pm

re: #7 researchok

Bad Craziness, Republican Party, Right Wing

For better or worse, that about sums it up as of late.

craziness all across the globe…interesting times

10 Skeetghazi  Fri, Jun 17, 2011 5:49:48pm

re: #1 Charles

Check out the earth-shaking new look for the Tag Cloud, in the left sidebar. Now with much more cloud-like appearance, thanks to CSS 3 background color opacity manipulations and other subtle CSS effects.

You’ll feel as if you’re flying through the clouds above Paris, France.

Is it perpetual? Or updates daily? (clueless question)

11 What, me worry?  Fri, Jun 17, 2011 5:50:32pm

re: #4 Charles

I sure don’t.

I actually looked recently at the code for a table based design I did for a client long ago. The horror.

Looked great in all the hot browsers - Internet Explorer 5, Netscape 4, and even IE5 for the Mac. But a freaking nightmare to maintain.

Those were not the days.

Netscape. Now there’s a blast from the past!

I noticed the change in the tags under the articles, too, a couple days ago. Very slick, indeed.

Re the film. I wish he would have lingered a little longer in the woodsy areas. In full screen, it almost seems you’re there.

12 Political Atheist  Fri, Jun 17, 2011 5:54:13pm

Beautiful work. I like the scenes of him working in there.

13 Charles Johnson  Fri, Jun 17, 2011 5:54:23pm

re: #10 Stanley Sea

Is it perpetual? Or updates daily? (clueless question)

Updates about every 60 seconds.

14 Charles Johnson  Fri, Jun 17, 2011 5:56:06pm

The Tag Storm (every LGF tag on one page) now uses the same extra-cloud-like CSS code.

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com…]

15 Skeetghazi  Fri, Jun 17, 2011 5:58:33pm

re: #13 Charles

Updates about every 60 seconds.

fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck

(sorry, just had to, it’s Friday ya know)

16 Skeetghazi  Fri, Jun 17, 2011 5:59:02pm

re: #15 Stanley Sea

fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck

(sorry, just had to, it’s Friday ya know)

OH, IT’S YOUR TAGS.

Bummer

17 Charles Johnson  Fri, Jun 17, 2011 5:59:58pm

re: #15 Stanley Sea

fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck

(sorry, just had to, it’s Friday ya know)

I see what you did there!

18 sattv4u2  Fri, Jun 17, 2011 6:00:35pm

re: #15 Stanley Sea

fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck fuck

(sorry, just had to, it’s Friday ya know)

Multiple times, but just once a week!?!?!

//
((bad satt ,, ,bad bad bad !!))

19 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Jun 17, 2011 6:01:44pm

re: #16 Stanley Sea

OH, IT’S YOUR TAGS.

Bummer

LOL! Silly wabbit, trix are for kids!

20 What, me worry?  Fri, Jun 17, 2011 6:02:19pm

re: #16 Stanley Sea

OH, IT’S YOUR TAGS.

Bummer

lol I went to check.

21 Political Atheist  Fri, Jun 17, 2011 6:02:44pm

re: #17 Charles

Does the tag cloud include page tags?

22 Kragar  Fri, Jun 17, 2011 6:03:26pm

re: #18 sattv4u2

Multiple times, but just once a week!?!?!

//
((bad satt ,, ,bad bad bad !!))

“Do you know he only makes love to me 12 times a year?”
“Well, once a month is not so bad.”
“No, he makes love to me 12 times in one night and then, zip, nothing!”

23 sod  Fri, Jun 17, 2011 6:04:32pm

re: #15 Stanley Sea

Try as I might, I don’t get it.

24 Charles Johnson  Fri, Jun 17, 2011 6:05:05pm

re: #21 Rightwingconspirator

Does the tag cloud include page tags?

No, it’s just the entry tags - that’s one of many things on the development to-do list.

25 sattv4u2  Fri, Jun 17, 2011 6:05:10pm

re: #23 sod

Try as I might, I don’t get it.

Maybe if you tried a different cologne!

/

26 Skeetghazi  Fri, Jun 17, 2011 6:05:18pm

re: #23 sod

Try as I might, I don’t get it.

I lamely tried to fuck with the tag cloud.

27 sattv4u2  Fri, Jun 17, 2011 6:06:45pm

re: #26 Stanley Sea

I lamely tried to fuck with the tag cloud.

Next time, try dinner and a few drinks 1st, at the very least!

28 Skeetghazi  Fri, Jun 17, 2011 6:08:31pm

re: #27 sattv4u2

Next time, try dinner and a few drinks 1st, at the very least!

Taking me awhile to get my groove back.

29 sod  Fri, Jun 17, 2011 6:08:36pm

re: #26 Stanley Sea

I lamely tried to fuck with the tag cloud.

So you want to take tag cloud out behind the middle school and get it pregnant??!!

30 Skeetghazi  Fri, Jun 17, 2011 6:09:05pm

re: #29 sod

So you want to take tag cloud out behind the middle school and get it pregnant??!!

Lame was the key word.

31 sattv4u2  Fri, Jun 17, 2011 6:09:26pm

re: #28 Stanley Sea

Taking me awhile to get my groove back.

no problem

It will be the 70’s again soon

The 2070’s

32 boxhead  Fri, Jun 17, 2011 6:09:29pm

re: #26 Stanley Sea

I lamely tried to fuck with the tag cloud.

I see zombies is listed, although not very large. Everyone knows zombies are real. Zombies are evil. Zombies vote for the tea party. I just hate zombies!

33 sod  Fri, Jun 17, 2011 6:10:37pm

re: #25 sattv4u2

Maybe if you tried a different cologne!

/

Crap, I just got that one. The work week must have taken its toll.

34 ProBosniaLiberal  Fri, Jun 17, 2011 6:11:07pm

re: #32 boxhead

That second to last part maybe right.

//

35 sattv4u2  Fri, Jun 17, 2011 6:13:34pm

re: #30 Stanley Sea

Parade is tomorrow

I actually tried to get a relatively cheap flight to Boston. Thought long and hard about one I did find, but I’m going up there at the end of the month for a visit anyway, so I just couldn;t justify the extra $$$


Me :(

36 Political Atheist  Fri, Jun 17, 2011 6:14:35pm

re: #24 Charles

No, it’s just the entry tags - that’s one of many things on the development to-do list.

Their own tag cloud might be cool under the page column when you get to that. And thanks for your work keeping this site up so well.

37 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Jun 17, 2011 6:19:18pm

re: #4 Charles

I sure don’t.

I actually looked recently at the code for a table based design I did for a client long ago. The horror.

Looked great in all the hot browsers - Internet Explorer 5, Netscape 4, and even IE5 for the Mac. But a freaking nightmare to maintain.

Those were not the days.

“You know the Good Old Days weren’t always good,
And Tomorrow ain’t as bad as it see-e-ems.”

Billy Joel, Keepin’ the Faith

38 researchok  Fri, Jun 17, 2011 6:22:10pm

Quiet tonight

39 Political Atheist  Fri, Jun 17, 2011 6:23:40pm

re: #38 researchok

Quiet tonight


Well happy Friday to all on this side of the dateline, happy Saturday to the rest!

40 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Jun 17, 2011 6:24:06pm

re: #39 Rightwingconspirator

Well happy Friday to all on this side of the dateline, happy Saturday to the rest!

How did this week treat you, RWC?

41 sattv4u2  Fri, Jun 17, 2011 6:24:16pm

Am I a bad person for saying GOOD at this!?!?!
[Link: www.brownsvilleherald.com…]

I mean, I feel terrible for the people in that town, caught between two drug cartels shooting it up in the streets, and I know this guys death alone will do NOTHING to curb the drug abuse and violence like this (it will at least in the short term probably increase the violence)

But ,,, {spit}

42 sattv4u2  Fri, Jun 17, 2011 6:24:43pm

re: #39 Rightwingconspirator

Well happy Friday to all on this side of the dateline, happy Saturday to the rest!

umm,,, it’s Wednesday here !!!

//

43 Skeetghazi  Fri, Jun 17, 2011 6:25:07pm

re: #35 sattv4u2

Parade is tomorrow

I actually tried to get a relatively cheap flight to Boston. Thought long and hard about one I did find, but I’m going up there at the end of the month for a visit anyway, so I just couldn;t justify the extra $$$

Me :(

My friend’s brother is there. Has season tix he sells, but he went to all the games and is going to be there tomorrow.

My question. Is there a GPS on the cup? Wouldn’t that be cool? I want to track the damn thing!

44 Usually refered to as anyways  Fri, Jun 17, 2011 6:25:31pm

Almost lunchtime here, anyone wanna know Friday nights sports results?
Pay via paypal $10

45 Political Atheist  Fri, Jun 17, 2011 6:26:11pm

re: #40 Dark_Falcon

How did this week treat you, RWC?

Just fine my friend. Been working the day gig and in the evenings on the outline/shot list for a short video project with LWC.

46 Political Atheist  Fri, Jun 17, 2011 6:27:22pm

re: #40 Dark_Falcon

How was your week? Good sales?

47 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Jun 17, 2011 6:27:49pm

re: #45 Rightwingconspirator

Just fine my friend. Been working the day gig and in the evenings on the outline/shot list for a short video project with LWC.

Glad to hear it.

48 sattv4u2  Fri, Jun 17, 2011 6:28:27pm

re: #43 Stanley Sea

Is there a GPS on the cup? Wouldn’t that be cool?

Aaahhh,,, the places it’s been,, the stories it could tell

I think thats one of the coolest things in sports. Each member of the team gets to take it for “X” number of days,,,, neat!

49 albusteve  Fri, Jun 17, 2011 6:30:29pm

re: #41 sattv4u2

Am I a bad person for saying GOOD at this!?!?!
[Link: www.brownsvilleherald.com…]

I mean, I feel terrible for the people in that town, caught between two drug cartels shooting it up in the streets, and I know this guys death alone will do NOTHING to curb the drug abuse and violence like this (it will at least in the short term probably increase the violence)

But ,,, {spit}

these guys are like toxic pests…if the federales cannot find them, their rivals will…good riddance to bad trash….how long before the US employs drones to find these guys?…they make the Taliban look like Boy Scouts

50 Skeetghazi  Fri, Jun 17, 2011 6:30:51pm

re: #48 sattv4u2

Is there a GPS on the cup? Wouldn’t that be cool?

Aaahhh,,, the places it’s been,, the stories it could tell

I think thats one of the coolest things in sports. Each member of the team gets to take it for “X” number of days,,, neat!

Agree.

51 boxhead  Fri, Jun 17, 2011 6:31:48pm

re: #48 sattv4u2

Is there a GPS on the cup? Wouldn’t that be cool?

Aaahhh,,, the places it’s been,, the stories it could tell

I think thats one of the coolest things in sports. Each member of the team gets to take it for “X” number of days,,, neat!

I agree… Following the Cup on Google Earth would be very cool.

Hockey, overall, is just way cool. Image, the players actually shake hands after the game. wow

52 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Jun 17, 2011 6:34:57pm

re: #46 Rightwingconspirator

How was your week? Good sales?

No joy. I woke up with high hopes, but they faded within minutes today when I threw up acid then found blood in mucus I coughed up. This faded away within 1/2 hour, but I waited till about 8am to make sure I wasn’t sick (stomach flus are highly contagious). I feel fine now but I lost two hours of call time then watched three of my best leads fall. I did get one very strong lead late in the day, and I’ve got 9 days left. The month started well and it will end well. I am not worried.

53 Skeetghazi  Fri, Jun 17, 2011 6:36:25pm

re: #48 sattv4u2

OK, this is making the rounds with my hockey friends.

This was my first year to hockey, and damn I got into it. It will be a part of my repertoire from now on.

So I’m watching game 7 with these Boston folks, and when Thomas won the Conn Smythe award, I yelled out “it looks like a cake!!”

Well, that comment has traveled back to Boston. I’m kinda famous in that girl/sports kind of way.

The Cake Trophy - I committed sacrilege

54 sattv4u2  Fri, Jun 17, 2011 6:37:54pm

re: #51 boxhead

I agree… Following the Cup on Google Earth would be very cool.

Hockey, overall, is just way cool. Image, the players actually shake hands after the game. wow

Most have played with/against each other through two avenues for years

In Canada, it’s the Junior “A” and “B” leagues from the time they;re in their early teens till they get drafted, and even then, there are only a handful of teams in those leagues

In the USA, if a kid didn’t go up to Canada to join a “B” league team, they went to one of only a handful of BIG TIME Hockey schools

Boston College,, Boston University,, Minnesota/ Duluth,,,, U of Denver,,, Maine,,,

By the time they’re in the pros, they’ve known each other for about a decade already

55 boxhead  Fri, Jun 17, 2011 6:38:28pm

re: #49 albusteve

these guys are like toxic pests…if the federales cannot find them, their rivals will…good riddance to bad trash…how long before the US employs drones to find these guys?…they make the Taliban look like Boy Scouts

I thought I read that the Zapatistas have mobilized in response to the drug cartel violence. There was a huge turnout of armed “freedom fighters”. But now I cannot find the article I read the other day.

hmmmm

56 sattv4u2  Fri, Jun 17, 2011 6:39:10pm

re: #53 Stanley Sea

OK, this is making the rounds with my hockey friends.

This was my first year to hockey, and damn I got into it. It will be a part of my repertoire from now on.

So I’m watching game 7 with these Boston folks, and when Thomas won the Conn Smythe award, I yelled out “it looks like a cake!!”

Well, that comment has traveled back to Boston. I’m kinda famous in that girl/sports kind of way.

The Cake Trophy - I committed sacrilege

When I get “home”, I’ll ask around

If anyone says anything,, I can PROUDLY tell them I KNOW THAT PERSON!!

57 boxhead  Fri, Jun 17, 2011 6:40:04pm

re: #54 sattv4u2

yes… but the hand shake line is an official part of the game. Just like Little League does it. Not like basketball players doing group hugs and grab ass after a game.

58 albusteve  Fri, Jun 17, 2011 6:40:37pm

re: #54 sattv4u2

Most have played with/against each other through two avenues for years

In Canada, it’s the Junior “A” and “B” leagues from the time they;re in their early teens till they get drafted, and even then, there are only a handful of teams in those leagues

In the USA, if a kid didn’t go up to Canada to join a “B” league team, they went to one of only a handful of BIG TIME Hockey schools

Boston College,, Boston University,, Minnesota/ Duluth,,, U of Denver,,, Maine,,,

By the time they’re in the pros, they’ve known each other for about a decade already

all that, and in the end, the game can barely sustain it’s TV viewers…I think the simplicity bores people…the fighting is laughable

59 boxhead  Fri, Jun 17, 2011 6:42:41pm

re: #58 albusteve

all that, and in the end, the game can barely sustain it’s TV viewers…I think the simplicity bores people…the fighting is laughable

wow… Even the LA Kings fans are the most loyal in Los Angeles with a majority of sell outs. I will admit watching on TV pales in comparison to watching live. But if you get hooked, you are hooked.

and the fighting is what it is… NFL is far more violent.

60 sattv4u2  Fri, Jun 17, 2011 6:44:14pm

re: #58 albusteve

all that, and in the end, the game can barely sustain it’s TV viewers…I think the simplicity bores people…the fighting is laughable

Years ago, FOX SPORTS made an attempt to make the game easier to “view” by the casual fan when it highlighted the puck in red (with a short red tail following it) veiwership actually went up that year but FOX and thr NHL couldn;t agree on an extension

That said, it is and always will be a regional sport. Here in Atlanta, where there are a LOT of transplants on any given night at a Thrashers game there are more “away” jerseys and fans in the stands than “home” ones, and for the second time Atlanta has lost it’s hockey team

61 Skeetghazi  Fri, Jun 17, 2011 6:44:38pm

Photographers stranded at airport film themselves having a blast

Here’s a lighthearted video as we sign off for the weekend — photographers Larry Chen and Joe Ayala recently found themselves stuck overnight at Dallas Fort-Worth Airport with $30,000 in photographic equipment (including Canon 5D Mark IIs and GoPros, so they decided to make best use of the opportunity and film themselves fooling around in the empty airport.

From Peta Pixel (RWC, I hope you follow this blog)

62 Political Atheist  Fri, Jun 17, 2011 6:45:18pm

re: #52 Dark_Falcon

Well best wishes with the health issue, sounds like you were right to be cautious.

63 Political Atheist  Fri, Jun 17, 2011 6:47:21pm

re: #61 Stanley Sea

Photographers stranded at airport film themselves having a blast

From Peta Pixel (RWC, I hope you follow this blog)

I do now!

64 albusteve  Fri, Jun 17, 2011 6:47:29pm

re: #59 boxhead

wow… Even the LA Kings fans are the most loyal in Los Angeles with a majority of sell outs. I will admit watching on TV pales in comparison to watching live. But if you get hooked, you are hooked.

and the fighting is what it is… NFL is far more violent.

of course the NFL is more violent, but it’s not sanctioned….throw a punch and you’re ejected, same for the NBA…these patsy fights in the NHL are so juvenile it turns a lot of people off…jus sayin…I don’t disregard whatever passes for skill in the game, it’s just so boring it puts me to sleep

65 sattv4u2  Fri, Jun 17, 2011 6:47:37pm

re: #52 Dark_Falcon

{{{manly hug}}}

Go get Em, Tiger

66 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin  Fri, Jun 17, 2011 6:48:06pm

re: #52 Dark_Falcon

Sounds awful. Hope this gets better.

67 boxhead  Fri, Jun 17, 2011 6:49:23pm

re: #64 albusteve

of course the NFL is more violent, but it’s not sanctioned…throw a punch and you’re ejected, same for the NBA…these patsy fights in the NHL are so juvenile it turns a lot of people off…jus sayin…I don’t disregard whatever passes for skill in the game, it’s just so boring it puts me to sleep

A brain bruising tackle is absolutely sanctioned.

68 boxhead  Fri, Jun 17, 2011 6:50:08pm

time to cook food….. later all

69 albusteve  Fri, Jun 17, 2011 6:50:39pm

re: #67 boxhead

A brain bruising tackle is absolutely sanctioned.

it’s legal…why is fighting legal in the NHL?…because without it views would vanish

70 Killgore Trout  Fri, Jun 17, 2011 6:53:33pm

want
Image: 2198308.jpg
/Very un-zen-like of me

71 Four More Tears  Fri, Jun 17, 2011 6:53:45pm

I really hope this Juan Cole story goes nowhere.

72 William Barnett-Lewis  Fri, Jun 17, 2011 6:54:33pm

re: #52 Dark_Falcon

Take care of yourself, DF. Hopefully you’ll shake it and get your sales.

Now I just need a client so I can finish paying off the Winchester 94 I put on layaway this week ;)

73 Skeetghazi  Fri, Jun 17, 2011 6:55:14pm

re: #69 albusteve

it’s legal…why is fighting legal in the NHL?…because without it views would vanish

Nah, you got the puck you get the aggression. Just escalates. And this series wasn’t too bad for fights. Bad hits/dirty pool, yes. (Nathan Horton) But fights were not that prevalent.

74 sattv4u2  Fri, Jun 17, 2011 6:55:24pm

re: #69 albusteve

it’s legal…why is fighting legal in the NHL?…because without it views would vanish

Not “legal”

You get penalized for it

Thrown out of the game for multiples in “a’” game

75 Skeetghazi  Fri, Jun 17, 2011 6:56:06pm

re: #69 albusteve

Steve - check out this click of the Nathan Horton hit

[Link: www.sportsnet.ca…]

76 sattv4u2  Fri, Jun 17, 2011 6:56:38pm

re: #73 Stanley Sea

Nah, you got the puck you get the aggression. Just escalates. And this series wasn’t too bad for fights. Bad hits/dirty pool, yes. (Nathan Horton) But fights were not that prevalent.

Said it then, will say it again

The Bruins won that series when Horton took that hit

77 Skeetghazi  Fri, Jun 17, 2011 7:00:10pm

Hockey = soccer on ice with boxing.

BRUINS!

78 Skeetghazi  Fri, Jun 17, 2011 7:04:25pm

re: #71 JasonA

I really hope this Juan Cole story goes nowhere.

Disagree

79 Four More Tears  Fri, Jun 17, 2011 7:07:21pm

re: #78 Stanley Sea

Disagree

I really don’t want to think any American administration could do this. All I’m saying is that I don’t want it to be true.

80 sattv4u2  Fri, Jun 17, 2011 7:07:30pm

re: #77 Stanley Sea

Hockey = soccer on ice with boxing.

BRUINS!

Been a helluva 10 year span for this Boston Sports fan

Patriots 2002
Patriots 2004
Red Sox 2004
Patriots 2005
Red Sox 2007
Celtics 2008
Bruins 2011

:)

81 Four More Tears  Fri, Jun 17, 2011 7:08:55pm

Oh…

My…

God…

Japan scientist synthesizes meat from human feces

Okay, just give me the goddamn soylent green already.

82 Interesting Times  Fri, Jun 17, 2011 7:09:58pm

re: #81 JasonA

Japan scientist synthesizes meat from human feces

Ah, so that’s what Taco Bell uses in place of ground beef…

83 sattv4u2  Fri, Jun 17, 2011 7:11:43pm

re: #81 JasonA

Oh…

My…

God…

Japan scientist synthesizes meat from human feces

Okay, just give me the goddamn soylent green already.

I could have gone the rest of my days without knowing that!

84 Skeetghazi  Fri, Jun 17, 2011 7:13:59pm

re: #79 JasonA

I really don’t want to think any American administration could do this. All I’m saying is that I don’t want it to be true.

Gotcha. But I believe it’s true. (gut liberal feeling and all that)

85 Bear  Fri, Jun 17, 2011 7:17:29pm

re: #72 wlewisiii

Hope you got an OK from the UN for the 94//

86 windsagio  Fri, Jun 17, 2011 7:21:46pm

re: #84 Stanley Sea

It wouldn’t be the first time Bush, let alone a Republican President had done something like this.

(hint: “This memorandum addresses the matter of how we can maximize the fact of our incumbency in dealing with persons known to be active in their opposition to our Administration; stated a bit more bluntly—how we can use the available federal machinery to screw our political enemies”)

87 prairiefire  Fri, Jun 17, 2011 7:24:26pm

Happy Weekend, lizards!

88 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Jun 17, 2011 7:24:50pm

re: #66 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin

Sounds awful. Hope this gets better.

It’s all better now. It went away within an hour. I was just being careful.

89 Skeetghazi  Fri, Jun 17, 2011 7:24:53pm

re: #86 windsagio

Hey Windy, you need to bring back an avatar with a cat. Just saying.

90 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Jun 17, 2011 7:26:05pm

re: #72 wlewisiii

Take care of yourself, DF. Hopefully you’ll shake it and get your sales.

Now I just need a client so I can finish paying off the Winchester 94 I put on layaway this week ;)

Very nice. My dad’s getting himself a Remington 870 shotgun, so it looks like this might be the famous Gun Thread.

91 sattv4u2  Fri, Jun 17, 2011 7:27:03pm

re: #87 prairiefire

Happy Weekend, lizards!

Not for another hour and a half!!

(not counting the long, quiet drive home)

92 albusteve  Fri, Jun 17, 2011 7:27:29pm

re: #90 Dark_Falcon

Very nice. My dad’s getting himself a Remington 870 shotgun, so it looks like this might be the famous Gun Thread.

best shotgun ever made…but he should get a pumper

93 sattv4u2  Fri, Jun 17, 2011 7:27:50pm

re: #89 Stanley Sea

Hey Windy, you need to bring back an avatar with a cat. Just saying.

That IS the cat!!!
Take a tab of acid and see!!

///

94 windsagio  Fri, Jun 17, 2011 7:28:05pm

re: #89 Stanley Sea

I actually want to, I just can’t replace the one I have once I turn it off >

95 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Jun 17, 2011 7:29:02pm

re: #92 albusteve

best shotgun ever made…but he should get a pumper

That is a pump-action, Steve.

96 sattv4u2  Fri, Jun 17, 2011 7:29:26pm

re: #95 Dark_Falcon

That is a pump-action, Steve.

are we still talking about the shotgun!?!

/

97 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Jun 17, 2011 7:30:00pm

re: #96 sattv4u2

are we still talking about the shotgun!?!

/

Yes.

98 albusteve  Fri, Jun 17, 2011 7:30:38pm

re: #91 sattv4u2

Not for another hour and a half!!

(not counting the long, quiet drive home)

to hell with quiet…get yourself a couple of subdudes cd’s…

99 albusteve  Fri, Jun 17, 2011 7:31:16pm

re: #95 Dark_Falcon

That is a pump-action, Steve.

870 comes as an auto loader too

100 Bear  Fri, Jun 17, 2011 7:32:21pm

re: #99 albusteve

re: #99 albusteve

870 comes as an auto loader too

What??

101 sattv4u2  Fri, Jun 17, 2011 7:32:46pm

re: #98 albusteve

to hell with quiet…get yourself a couple of subdudes cd’s…

[Video]

Nahh

After being in this place for 12 (+) hours ,, QUIET is BLISS!!

102 albusteve  Fri, Jun 17, 2011 7:32:53pm

re: #100 Bear

re: #99 albusteve

What??

semi-auto…
auto loader

103 recusancy  Fri, Jun 17, 2011 7:37:25pm

re: #3 sod

I miss the days of the 1x1 pixel transparent .gif and when it was cool to use tables for layout.

Downding for that.

104 What, me worry?  Fri, Jun 17, 2011 7:39:37pm

re: #61 Stanley Sea

Ahhh TSA hard at work, I see…

105 windsagio  Fri, Jun 17, 2011 7:40:33pm

re: #89 Stanley Sea

OMG TEH KITTIES!

106 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Jun 17, 2011 7:41:11pm

re: #99 albusteve

870 comes as an auto loader too

That I had forgotten. Thank you for reminding me.

107 albusteve  Fri, Jun 17, 2011 7:42:04pm

re: #103 recusancy

Downding for that.

oh my!…ding crazy

108 Skeetghazi  Fri, Jun 17, 2011 7:42:48pm

re: #104 marjoriemoon

Ahhh TSA hard at work, I see…

Ah, once you’re in, you’re in.

109 What, me worry?  Fri, Jun 17, 2011 7:43:44pm

re: #108 Stanley Sea

Ah, once you’re in, you’re in.

I guess! It’s very cute and entertaining, but I find it a bit troubling.

110 Skeetghazi  Fri, Jun 17, 2011 7:44:02pm

re: #105 windsagio

OMG TEH KITTIES!

Don’t see a cat.

(anyone here get the Steve Elkington reference?)

111 sattv4u2  Fri, Jun 17, 2011 7:45:23pm

re: #109 marjoriemoon

I guess! It’s very cute and entertaining, but I find it a bit troubling.

Me too

I mean, not a killjoy or anything

But I hope THEY cleaned the mens room,, and what up with banging on an airlines keyboard,, and going into a restaurants kitchen

OTOH ,,, those could have been “staged” ( I hope)

112 sattv4u2  Fri, Jun 17, 2011 7:45:52pm

re: #110 Stanley Sea

Don’t see a cat.

(anyone here get the Steve Elkington reference?)

Yes ,, (except for the no part)

113 albusteve  Fri, Jun 17, 2011 7:46:36pm

re: #112 sattv4u2

Yes ,, (except for the no part)

who is Steve Elkington?

114 windsagio  Fri, Jun 17, 2011 7:48:05pm

humm, it doesn’t work when I click on my avatar for some reason.

115 Skeetghazi  Fri, Jun 17, 2011 7:48:15pm

re: #113 albusteve

who is Steve Elkington?

South African Golfer

116 Skeetghazi  Fri, Jun 17, 2011 7:50:01pm

re: #115 Stanley Sea

South African Golfer

look up Jim Rome/Steve Elkington/Cat

maybe there’s a recording. I heard it live - prob 5 years ago, but it was epic.

117 Skeetghazi  Fri, Jun 17, 2011 7:52:55pm
118 Skeetghazi  Fri, Jun 17, 2011 7:53:16pm

typo, oops

119 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Jun 17, 2011 7:54:58pm

BTW, if anyone gets a Twitter follower called @218822, block that follower. It’s a Stalker account. That account started following me and when I checked its profile it was just continuous hate-spew.

This has been a public service announcement from Falcon’s Sight Troll Detection Service. We now return to your regularly scheduled Friday night thread.

120 Skeetghazi  Fri, Jun 17, 2011 7:56:28pm

re: #117 Stanley Sea

Classic Steve Elckington

I hope you are listening. This is classic.

121 windsagio  Fri, Jun 17, 2011 7:57:02pm

re: #110 Stanley Sea

What I do for you :p

122 albusteve  Fri, Jun 17, 2011 7:57:17pm

re: #120 Stanley Sea

I hope you are listening. This is classic.

nah, to obscure for me

123 Skeetghazi  Fri, Jun 17, 2011 7:58:32pm

re: #121 windsagio

What I do for you :p

I see the new avatar, I click, it’s the oldie (girl with bags on her hands) I reload. NO CAT. wtf

124 What, me worry?  Fri, Jun 17, 2011 7:58:40pm

re: #111 sattv4u2

Me too

I mean, not a killjoy or anything

But I hope THEY cleaned the mens room,, and what up with banging on an airlines keyboard,, and going into a restaurants kitchen

OTOH ,,, those could have been “staged” ( I hope)

I’ve been through those areas of DFW many times, well not the kitchen, and there’s usually someone somewhere. When they came in at the gate and stayed there after everyone left - late at night, then it could be empty, but they would have already been cleared through security coming in, you know, so probably not a security problem.

I’m obsessing, I think lol It was cute.

125 windsagio  Fri, Jun 17, 2011 7:59:38pm

re: #123 Stanley Sea

sometimes you need to redo the window: Its a giant cat dressed like the Phantom of the Opera tho’.

[Link: www.pixiv.net…]

126 sattv4u2  Fri, Jun 17, 2011 8:00:21pm

re: #124 marjoriemoon

I’ve been through those areas of DFW many times, well not the kitchen, and there’s usually someone somewhere. When they came in at the gate and stayed there after everyone left - late at night, then it could be empty, but they would have already been cleared through security coming in, you know, so probably not a security problem.

I’m obsessing, I think lol It was cute.

Been in many an airport that late,,, stranded for one reason or another,,

Read ,, sleep,,,,, pee,,,, repeat

127 sattv4u2  Fri, Jun 17, 2011 8:03:48pm

SO

after going 2-11 in their 1st 13 games, the Red Sox have reeled off a 40-16 record since!!!

40-16

128 CuriousLurker  Fri, Jun 17, 2011 8:03:49pm

re: #4 Charles

I sure don’t.

I actually looked recently at the code for a table based design I did for a client long ago. The horror.

Looked great in all the hot browsers - Internet Explorer 5, Netscape 4, and even IE5 for the Mac. But a freaking nightmare to maintain.

Those were not the days.

Oh, gawd. The memories. All the hacks, browser quirks, and tables nested 4 & 5 deep because a client or designer insisted on something. The font tags. The inline attributes. The sliced & diced images.

Then the client would inevitably want you to move part of the layout, causing you to have to you tamper with all of your delicately balanced tables and reslice the graphics. And if the site was more than 10 pages, or if there were no includes, or if you miscalculated a global search & replace… *whimper*

You couldn’t pay me enough money to go back to those days.

129 Skeetghazi  Fri, Jun 17, 2011 8:03:57pm

re: #126 sattv4u2

Been in many an airport that late,,, stranded for one reason or another,,

Read ,, sleep,,, pee,,, repeat

Squeeze your body between the arm rests of the seats to somehow try to stretch out.

130 sattv4u2  Fri, Jun 17, 2011 8:05:08pm

re: #129 Stanley Sea

Squeeze your body between the arm rests of the seats to somehow try to stretch out.

Puter bag as a pillow
Coat that usually covers you from neck to waistline trying to cover you from head to toe

Ah,, good times

131 Kragar  Fri, Jun 17, 2011 8:05:09pm

So, the big tournament tomorrow I’ve been prepping all week for…

is next saturday, not tomorrow, got the dates wrong.

132 albusteve  Fri, Jun 17, 2011 8:05:21pm

re: #127 sattv4u2

SO

after going 2-11 in their 1st 13 games, the Red Sox have reeled off a 40-16 record since!!!

40-16

wanna feel good?…the Cubs beat the Yankees today

133 sattv4u2  Fri, Jun 17, 2011 8:05:33pm

re: #132 albusteve

wanna feel good?…the Cubs beat the Yankees today

I KNOW!!!!

134 CuriousLurker  Fri, Jun 17, 2011 8:06:09pm

re: #129 Stanley Sea

*waves* Hey, girl. Have you been behaving yourself?

135 albusteve  Fri, Jun 17, 2011 8:06:35pm

re: #133 sattv4u2

I KNOW!!!

BONER!

136 sattv4u2  Fri, Jun 17, 2011 8:07:02pm

re: #135 albusteve

BONER!

hey , at my age.. I’ll take em however they come!

137 Kragar  Fri, Jun 17, 2011 8:07:10pm

re: #135 albusteve

BONER!

Do we have to talk about him again?
/

138 albusteve  Fri, Jun 17, 2011 8:07:44pm

re: #137 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Do we have to talk about him again?
/

satt?…he’s a regular

139 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Jun 17, 2011 8:08:00pm

re: #132 albusteve

wanna feel good?…the Cubs beat the Yankees today

Go Cubs Go,
Go Cubs Go,
Hey Chicago, Wadaya Say?
The Cubs beat the Yanks today!

140 Kragar  Fri, Jun 17, 2011 8:08:28pm

re: #138 albusteve

satt?…he’s a regular

I was confusing boner with wiener.

141 Skeetghazi  Fri, Jun 17, 2011 8:08:33pm

re: #134 CuriousLurker

*waves* Hey, girl. Have you been behaving yourself?

barely. my goal.

Reservations at the Japanese rest 9 pm.

I’ve been lurking during my day - lost productivity and all that - but only live evenings.

Miss ya!

142 Kragar  Fri, Jun 17, 2011 8:08:57pm

re: #139 Dark_Falcon

Go Cubs Go,
Go Cubs Go,
Hey Chicago, Wadaya Say?
The Cubs beat the Yanks today!

Is that the game with the pitcher?

143 albusteve  Fri, Jun 17, 2011 8:09:08pm

re: #139 Dark_Falcon

Go Cubs Go,
Go Cubs Go,
Hey Chicago, Wadaya Say?
The Cubs beat the Yanks today!

the Cub Bowl
of course Jeter is down on the IR

144 sattv4u2  Fri, Jun 17, 2011 8:09:23pm

re: #142 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Is that the game with the pitcher?

I usually watch with a pitcher

of beer

145 CuriousLurker  Fri, Jun 17, 2011 8:10:44pm

re: #141 Stanley Sea

barely. my goal.

Reservations at the Japanese rest 9 pm.

I’ve been lurking during my day - lost productivity and all that - but only live evenings.

Miss ya!

Miss you too. I’ll eventually get back in the swing of things. ;o)

146 Skeetghazi  Fri, Jun 17, 2011 8:11:20pm

ABL just re-tweeted me. hooo

147 albusteve  Fri, Jun 17, 2011 8:12:14pm

re: #142 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

Is that the game with the pitcher?

yeah, and a catcher…w00t!

148 Kragar  Fri, Jun 17, 2011 8:14:04pm

re: #147 albusteve

yeah, and a catcher…w00t!

So you’re telling me Bryan Fischer considers the game a hate crime?

149 ProBosniaLiberal  Fri, Jun 17, 2011 8:14:36pm

Turkey is beginning to act right with Syria:

[Link: warincontext.org…]

150 albusteve  Fri, Jun 17, 2011 8:15:53pm

re: #148 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

So you’re telling me Bryan Fischer considers the game a hate crime?

I’m sure he does…wonder what he thinks of rassling…
DEATH TO RASSLERS!
(bunch of groping fags)

151 windsagio  Fri, Jun 17, 2011 8:17:09pm

re: #146 Stanley Sea

that was still my favorite thing of the week, I think.

“There used to be art here. Now there are cocks.”

152 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Jun 17, 2011 8:20:23pm

re: #148 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

So you’re telling me Bryan Fischer considers the game a hate crime?

He thinks everything but Church services a “hate crime”.

/kidding but barely

153 sattv4u2  Fri, Jun 17, 2011 8:20:35pm

Well,, that didn’t take long

Keith Olbermann hints at Anthony Weiner talk show on Al Gore’s network

Read more: [Link: www.cbsnews.com…]

154 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Jun 17, 2011 8:21:21pm

re: #153 sattv4u2

Well,, that didn’t take long

Keith Olbermann hints at Anthony Weiner talk show on Al Gore’s network

Read more: [Link: www.cbsnews.com…]

Weiner and Olbermann deserve each other.

155 albusteve  Fri, Jun 17, 2011 8:22:08pm

re: #153 sattv4u2

Well,, that didn’t take long

Keith Olbermann hints at Anthony Weiner talk show on Al Gore’s network

Read more: [Link: www.cbsnews.com…]

as Charlie used to say…where two fools met
those guys are utterly hopeless

156 windsagio  Fri, Jun 17, 2011 8:23:40pm
157 Skeetghazi  Fri, Jun 17, 2011 8:25:40pm

re: #151 windsagio

that was still my favorite thing of the week, I think.

“There used to be art here. Now there are cocks.”

OMG post the link!

158 windsagio  Fri, Jun 17, 2011 8:26:24pm
159 Kragar  Fri, Jun 17, 2011 8:27:31pm

re: #157 Stanley Sea

OMG post the link!



link

160 albusteve  Fri, Jun 17, 2011 8:28:41pm

re: #159 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)


link

you look a lot like her…good old mom

161 sattv4u2  Fri, Jun 17, 2011 8:29:17pm

Gaddafi on Libyan TV pledges to defeat NATO

[Link: ca.news.yahoo.com…]

The TV station said the speech was from “a telephone call from the brother leader on June 17.”

heh

More likely from a telephone BOOTH on the road out of the country!!

162 Skeetghazi  Fri, Jun 17, 2011 8:29:33pm

re: #158 windsagio

Image: 550x-art-on-wall.jpg

LOL, epic

163 windsagio  Fri, Jun 17, 2011 8:29:57pm

I’ll be frank, I still love Weiner.

(pauses for snickers)

once he fucked up, people were coming out of the ratholes cackling with glee, but he was something Congress needed, somebody to yell right back at the GOP douchebags.

I just wish he’d been at that Texas meeting when they were saying speaking your first language was ‘insulting’.

164 freetoken  Fri, Jun 17, 2011 8:31:16pm

re: #4 Charles

Tables were good for… making tables!

Information presented in table format is very useful for comparisons. I kind of wish we could have tables in the Pages - I’ve at times wanted to do A vs B comparisons.

165 ProBosniaLiberal  Fri, Jun 17, 2011 8:32:10pm

So, apparently one of my friends believes that the US cannot be trusted to do anything outside the US.

Same friend is Pakistani, and has said something like “Bangladeshis are not true Muslims.”

????????

I trust her, and she is sweet (most of the time) but…….

166 albusteve  Fri, Jun 17, 2011 8:33:07pm

re: #163 windsagio

I’ll be frank, I still love Weiner.

(pauses for snickers)

once he fucked up, people were coming out of the ratholes cackling with glee, but he was something Congress needed, somebody to yell right back at the GOP douchebags.

I just wish he’d been at that Texas meeting when they were saying speaking your first language was ‘insulting’.

that about says it all…pop politics

167 Skeetghazi  Fri, Jun 17, 2011 8:34:21pm

re: #163 windsagio

I’ll be frank, I still love Weiner.

(pauses for snickers)

once he fucked up, people were coming out of the ratholes cackling with glee, but he was something Congress needed, somebody to yell right back at the GOP douchebags.

I just wish he’d been at that Texas meeting when they were saying speaking your first language was ‘insulting’.

Exactly. He was the one who stood up to the GOP bullshit. But he fucked up. He has no clout anymore. All I can say is it’s a fucking shame

168 Interesting Times  Fri, Jun 17, 2011 8:34:54pm

re: #163 windsagio

once he fucked up, people were coming out of the ratholes cackling with glee, but he was something Congress needed, somebody to yell right back at the GOP douchebags.

…and that’s the thing that infuriates me most about what he did: he knew damn well he was providing a needed service, and also knew damn well the right would do anything to take him down…so why on earth did he give them the rope to hang him with??

169 windsagio  Fri, Jun 17, 2011 8:36:07pm

re: #168 publicityStunted

Power is a big aphrodisiac, or maybe he got off on the risk >>

re: #166 albusteve

wut?

170 albusteve  Fri, Jun 17, 2011 8:36:15pm

re: #168 publicityStunted

…and that’s the thing that infuriates me most about what he did: he knew damn well he was providing a needed service, and also knew damn well the right would do anything to take him down…so why on earth did he give them the rope to hang him with??

the right didn’t bring him down, BO did…he became despised by his own supporters

171 windsagio  Fri, Jun 17, 2011 8:37:23pm

oops, burgertime! BBIAB >

172 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Jun 17, 2011 8:37:40pm

re: #168 publicityStunted

…and that’s the thing that infuriates me most about what he did: he knew damn well he was providing a needed service, and also knew damn well the right would do anything to take him down…so why on earth did he give them the rope to hang him with??

He wasn’t being reflective. He found the crouch shots titilating and fun and he was enjoying himself. His “package” was doing his thinking. Not the first man lead to ruin by his penis, nor the 1001st.

173 ProBosniaLiberal  Fri, Jun 17, 2011 8:37:46pm

re: #163 windsagio

Want me to substitute? I have 300% more insults than Wiener, and some revolve around calling the opposition traitors! :)

174 windsagio  Fri, Jun 17, 2011 8:38:07pm

re: #173 ProLifeLiberal

I would love for you to get elected man, go for it!

175 What, me worry?  Fri, Jun 17, 2011 8:39:09pm

re: #168 publicityStunted

…and that’s the thing that infuriates me most about what he did: he knew damn well he was providing a needed service, and also knew damn well the right would do anything to take him down…so why on earth did he give them the rope to hang him with??

He’s a sex machine!

176 What, me worry?  Fri, Jun 17, 2011 8:41:01pm

Oh that needs to be live.

177 ProBosniaLiberal  Fri, Jun 17, 2011 8:41:32pm

re: #172 Dark_Falcon

Nor the last. Not by a very long shot. Men will act stupid about their stuff until the end of time.

178 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Jun 17, 2011 8:41:40pm

re: #173 ProLifeLiberal

Want me to substitute? I have 300% more insults than Wiener, and some revolve around calling the opposition traitors! :)

Just try those insults, and I’ll give you more pushback than you can handle.

179 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Jun 17, 2011 8:42:48pm

re: #177 ProLifeLiberal

Nor the last. Not by a very long shot. Men will act stupid about their stuff until the end of time.

Quite Concur.

180 sattv4u2  Fri, Jun 17, 2011 8:43:28pm

re: #168 publicityStunted

and also knew damn well the right would do anything to take him down.

Huh??
Someone on “the right” took/ sent the photos,, someone on “the right” told him to say his account was hacked/ pranked??
He was brought down by his own foibles followed by his own arrogance.

I have no use for any politician, regardless of the letter that follows their name to treat the public that way

181 What, me worry?  Fri, Jun 17, 2011 8:43:46pm

I am SO over the Weiner.

182 Interesting Times  Fri, Jun 17, 2011 8:44:48pm

re: #169 windsagio

Power is a big aphrodisiac, or maybe he got off on the risk

Then have a regular affair with no photographic evidence o_O I mean, how could you not know that risqué photos of yourself, sent to others, can later be sold by said others to a tabloid blog of choice?? I heard the first woman to come forward (forget her name) was paid as much as $10,000 for the photos she released. And he was being twitter-stalked by breitbots as well - did it not occur to him at least once that the women he was chatting with could potentially be right-wing blog bait??

That degree of reckless stupidity just boggles my mind.

183 sattv4u2  Fri, Jun 17, 2011 8:45:23pm

re: #181 marjoriemoon

I am SO over the Weiner.

He’ll be with us until the next arrogant SOB messes up

And even then, the networks will trip over themselves to get Weiners reaction!!

184 albusteve  Fri, Jun 17, 2011 8:46:19pm

re: #180 sattv4u2

and also knew damn well the right would do anything to take him down.

Huh??
Someone on “the right” took/ sent the photos,, someone on “the right” told him to say his account was hacked/ pranked??
He was brought down by his own foibles followed by his own arrogance.

I have no use for any politician, regardless of the letter that follows their name to treat the public that way

a perfect example of the bipartisan bullshit tearing this country apart…

185 ProBosniaLiberal  Fri, Jun 17, 2011 8:47:19pm

re: #165 ProLifeLiberal

I want some advice on this. I tend to get moralistic on things, and have lost friends to it, and have pushed others away (one became Tea Partier, and tried to convince me to come over.).

When friends have such off the wall ideas, what do you do. It isn’t the Libya thing that is the worst (it offends me), it’s the Bangladesh thing. What she is saying has been said before. It had bad consequences.

186 sattv4u2  Fri, Jun 17, 2011 8:48:44pm

re: #185 ProLifeLiberal

I want some advice on this. I tend to get moralistic on things, and have lost friends to it, and have pushed others away (one became Tea Partier, and tried to convince me to come over.).

When friends have such off the wall ideas, what do you do. It isn’t the Libya thing that is the worst (it offends me), it’s the Bangladesh thing. What she is saying has been said before. It had bad consequences.

2 avenues

accept their beliefs and move along
don’t accept them and alienate them further, with the end result of losing a friend

187 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Jun 17, 2011 8:48:51pm

re: #134 CuriousLurker

*waves* Hey, girl. Have you been behaving yourself?

I hope not!
It’s more fun!

188 Dancing along the light of day  Fri, Jun 17, 2011 8:49:48pm

re: #145 CuriousLurker

Uterati for the win!

189 albusteve  Fri, Jun 17, 2011 8:50:36pm

re: #185 ProLifeLiberal

I want some advice on this. I tend to get moralistic on things, and have lost friends to it, and have pushed others away (one became Tea Partier, and tried to convince me to come over.).

When friends have such off the wall ideas, what do you do. It isn’t the Libya thing that is the worst (it offends me), it’s the Bangladesh thing. What she is saying has been said before. It had bad consequences.

ask yourself…is politics the basis for friendship?…you can figure it out yourself, you don’t need advice from others

190 Skeetghazi  Fri, Jun 17, 2011 8:50:47pm

re: #175 marjoriemoon

He’s a sex machine!

[Video]

OK, heard on the evil NPR today submissions of listeners of their Dad’s fav songs when Dad was the same age as you.

James Brown was #1.

191 freetoken  Fri, Jun 17, 2011 8:53:31pm

re: #185 ProLifeLiberal

Time.

Give people time to change.

Just occasionally ask her questions about subjects or aspects of events about which she otherwise would not (apparently) consider.

Opening up new avenues of thought helps people change.

Otherwise, steve (189) has a good point - on what is your friendship based?

192 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Jun 17, 2011 8:54:42pm

re: #185 ProLifeLiberal

I want some advice on this. I tend to get moralistic on things, and have lost friends to it, and have pushed others away (one became Tea Partier, and tried to convince me to come over.).

When friends have such off the wall ideas, what do you do. It isn’t the Libya thing that is the worst (it offends me), it’s the Bangladesh thing. What she is saying has been said before. It had bad consequences.

Thankfully, India invaded shortly thereafter and won Bangladesh it’s independence. The real danger is that a mind looking to call other Muslims “not real Muslims” is a mindset vulnerable to Salafism. And Salafism is a mortal danger to us all.

193 What, me worry?  Fri, Jun 17, 2011 8:55:10pm

re: #190 Stanley Sea

OK, heard on the evil NPR today submissions of listeners of their Dad’s fav songs when Dad was the same age as you.

James Brown was #1.

LOL My dad was born in 1926, so I’d say the Rat Pack, but then he went on a Willy Nelson stint in the 70s.

194 albusteve  Fri, Jun 17, 2011 8:57:04pm

Dear Abby…my best friend insists on wearing brown shoes with a blue suit…this defies all logic and reason , can you tell me how to continue this relationship in spite of this personal blasphemy?

195 albusteve  Fri, Jun 17, 2011 8:58:57pm

re: #193 marjoriemoon

LOL My dad was born in 1926, so I’d say the Rat Pack, but then he went on a Willy Nelson stint in the 70s.

my dad was all about Bing and Frank, and Glen Miller…hard to argue with those guys

196 sattv4u2  Fri, Jun 17, 2011 9:00:58pm

And on that note, the long quiet drive home beckons

197 ProBosniaLiberal  Fri, Jun 17, 2011 9:01:21pm

re: #192 Dark_Falcon

As I know from history. After all, the First Saudi State committed anti-Shia Massacres that I would consider Genocide because of sheer numbers.

That doesn’t count what they did to others they disagreed with.

Problem is with the intervention you mentioned, is that Pakistan still managed to kill 1.5-3 million Bengalis before India ended up entering full scale. It’s the fact that this mentality led to genocide that is bothering me to no end.

198 What, me worry?  Fri, Jun 17, 2011 9:03:01pm

re: #196 sattv4u2

And on that note, the long quiet drive home beckons

Safe travels, Satt.

199 Dark_Falcon  Fri, Jun 17, 2011 9:04:55pm

re: #197 ProLifeLiberal

As I know from history. After all, the First Saudi State committed anti-Shia Massacres that I would consider Genocide because of sheer numbers.

That doesn’t count what they did to others they disagreed with.

Problem is with the intervention you mentioned, is that Pakistan still managed to kill 1.5-3 million Bengalis before India ended up entering full scale. It’s the fact that this mentality led to genocide that is bothering me to no end.

Keep fighting it, keep reminding people where thoughts like that lead to. Saying “Never Again!” is easy, but making sure genocide doesn’t happen takes eternal vigilance. You’re doing the right thing staying heads up, PLL.

200 Kragar  Fri, Jun 17, 2011 9:08:41pm

re: #197 ProLifeLiberal

As I know from history. After all, the First Saudi State committed anti-Shia Massacres that I would consider Genocide because of sheer numbers.

That doesn’t count what they did to others they disagreed with.

Problem is with the intervention you mentioned, is that Pakistan still managed to kill 1.5-3 million Bengalis before India ended up entering full scale. It’s the fact that this mentality led to genocide that is bothering me to no end.

You’ve got to realize that before someone can step in to stop a genocide is that you need to be able to justify the dollar expenditure to the folks at home.
/wish that was sarc

201 ProBosniaLiberal  Fri, Jun 17, 2011 9:08:59pm

re: #199 Dark_Falcon

I favor Bangladesh in South Asia. They haven’t been nearly as affect by religious radicalism as Pakistan or India.

Pakistan, of course, is Islamist galore. But India has the BJP and RSS, among others. Bangladesh, though massively impoverished, has kept its nose clean radicalism wise.

202 albusteve  Fri, Jun 17, 2011 9:10:36pm

re: #200 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

You’ve got to realize that before someone can step in to stop a genocide is that you need to be able to justify the dollar expenditure to the folks at home.
/wish that was sarc

fighting for freedom worldwide, ala John Kennedy, is a dying notion

203 Four More Tears  Fri, Jun 17, 2011 9:12:10pm

re: #200 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

You’ve got to realize that before someone can step in to stop a genocide is that you need to be able to justify the dollar expenditure to the folks at home.
/wish that was sarc

I don’t remember the Kosovo intervention being sold like that, though.

204 ProBosniaLiberal  Fri, Jun 17, 2011 9:12:28pm

re: #200 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

This is one area where I say cost is damned.

Out of curiosity, I’m reading the released diplomatic cables from back then in Bangladesh. They are horrific.

205 windsagio  Fri, Jun 17, 2011 9:13:01pm

re: #200 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)

re: #203 JasonA

Yeah I think the issue is a little different. People are just philosophically opposed to interventions no matter what.

ESPECIALLY without some international mandate.

206 albusteve  Fri, Jun 17, 2011 9:16:16pm

re: #204 ProLifeLiberal

This is one area where I say cost is damned.

Out of curiosity, I’m reading the released diplomatic cables from back then in Bangladesh. They are horrific.

cost be damned?…cost of American lives?
why should we defend Pakistan?
9 times out of 10 the people we try to help hate out guts, and I won’t stand for Americans dying playing Monopoly in the ME or anywhere else…go in, smash the fuckers, and pull out…no tweeners like Afghanistan which is basically a disaster

207 ProBosniaLiberal  Fri, Jun 17, 2011 9:16:20pm

re: #202 albusteve

I’m hopeful that it isn’t quite dead yet. I also hope that the idea will be back as strong as before in the future.

Did I ever say that I think JFK was awesome? I don’t particularly care if he was a polygamist.

/quarter-sarc on last sentence

208 windsagio  Fri, Jun 17, 2011 9:17:43pm

re: #206 albusteve

Do you realize you just played both sides of an issue within the space of 6 minutes?

209 albusteve  Fri, Jun 17, 2011 9:19:05pm

re: #207 ProLifeLiberal

I’m hopeful that it isn’t quite dead yet. I also hope that the idea will be back as strong as before in the future.

Did I ever say that I think JFK was awesome? I don’t particularly care if he was a polygamist.

/quarter-sarc on last sentence

he’s hugely over rated in my book…the entire family of misfits is a disgrace…I deleted the rest of this post

210 ProBosniaLiberal  Fri, Jun 17, 2011 9:20:11pm

re: #206 albusteve

As I said, case of Genocide. Darfur would be an example of where we should have done something, but didn’t.

By the time the 2nd Iraq War rolled around, Saddam’s Genocides had ended years earlier. Afghanistan could have been handled better, but mistakes made have made it a quagmire.

211 albusteve  Fri, Jun 17, 2011 9:24:30pm

re: #210 ProLifeLiberal

As I said, case of Genocide. Darfur would be an example of where we should have done something, but didn’t.

By the time the 2nd Iraq War rolled around, Saddam’s Genocides had ended years earlier. Afghanistan could have been handled better, but mistakes made have made it a quagmire.

the feds don’t always react on principle….the polls are extremely important, and all the considerations of our allies…the expression of force is always the result of the political climate, and when things are aligned in such a way, then intervention is a big winner…miscalculate and it’s a big loser

212 Mr Pancakes  Fri, Jun 17, 2011 9:56:08pm

re: #80 sattv4u2

Been a helluva 10 year span for this Boston Sports fan

Patriots 2002
Patriots 2004
Red Sox 2004
Patriots 2005
Red Sox 2007
Celtics 2008
Bruins 2011

:)

Yep you’re right……. amazing

Here’s San Diego’s list for the last 45 years.

“crickets”

213 Semper Fi  Sat, Jun 18, 2011 5:46:31am

re: #80 sattv4u2

Been a helluva 10 year span for this Boston Sports fan

Patriots 2002
Patriots 2004
Red Sox 2004
Patriots 2005
Red Sox 2007
Celtics 2008
Bruins 2011

:)

I hadn’t realized until you posted this. What a terrific run of championships.

214 im_gumby_damnit  Sat, Jun 18, 2011 7:23:15am

That was brilliant. The results of his work were eye popping. Really nice stuff.


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