What Michelle Obama Really Said
Deaf viewers weigh in
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262 comments
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laZardo Thu, Sep 15, 2011 6:54:37pm |
From the forum thread:
posts from hell
As an expert lip reader....... I have to agree with the previous posters..One of the most easiest lip reading tasks ever. You guys should be paying us.
CONSPIRACY!!!oneonety
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jamesfirecat Thu, Sep 15, 2011 6:58:01pm |
10:Republicans cook up outrageous outrage.
20: People with more solid grasp on reality laugh at those who proclaim outrageous outrage.
30: Outrageous outrage totally disproven.
40: Republicans double down on outrageous outrage.
50: Go to 10.
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(I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Thu, Sep 15, 2011 6:59:08pm |
This reminds me of "Applause-Gate" in its magnitude of derpiness.
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Atlas Fails Thu, Sep 15, 2011 7:00:20pm |
What do a bunch of deaf people know about talking? They can't even hear!
/Probable Dim Hoft response
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jaunte Thu, Sep 15, 2011 7:01:05pm |
re: #3 jamesfirecat
Alternate 40:
Completely ignore 10, 20 and 30, move on to next shiny outrage.
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Schadenfreude 'r' Us Thu, Sep 15, 2011 7:01:13pm |
If she were a REAL Amurrkan she'd have been a girl scout or something patriotic and learned to fold that flag herself!
//
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Gus Thu, Sep 15, 2011 7:04:22pm |
Beyond pathetic. Who are these people and how do they brush their teeth in the morning and put on their house slippers?
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Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, Sep 15, 2011 7:04:29pm |
Glad to see the translation. I knew there had to be someone out there who could read lips and not speculate.
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Alexzander Thu, Sep 15, 2011 7:04:31pm |
re: #4 000G
This reminds me of "Applause-Gate" in its magnitude of derpiness.
Absolutely.
Its actually quite incredible how little scandal has befallen the Obamas.
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Bubblehead II Thu, Sep 15, 2011 7:06:42pm |
I hope yo like it.
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(I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Thu, Sep 15, 2011 7:08:26pm |
re: #4 000G
This reminds me of "Applause-Gate" in its magnitude of derpiness.
Oh yeah, and in both this and that, understanding and taking serious the deaf play an integral part of debunking the phony outrages.
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Kragar Thu, Sep 15, 2011 7:10:00pm |
The deaf are all handicapped, and that means they get government handouts all the time, so of course they'll cover for Obama.
/Do I really need a tag?
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Gus Thu, Sep 15, 2011 7:10:01pm |
It's official. Reading or writing right wing blogs causes cognitive dysfunction and may lead to a permanent mental disability. At the very least it causes a rapid decrease in IQ points.
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Atlas Fails Thu, Sep 15, 2011 7:11:50pm |
re: #7 C1nnabar
If she were a REAL Amurrkan she'd have been a girl scout or something patriotic and learned to fold that flag herself!
//
Girl scouts!?! The same girl scouts who came out as (gasp!) neutral on abortion and gay rights? They're not patriotic, they're communists, obviously. A better alternative would be the God-fearing American Heritage Girls.
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Hector1980 Thu, Sep 15, 2011 7:12:00pm |
This really shows how stupid some people are.
They looked what they wanted to see. "All this for a flag" doesn't match the First Lade and the President body language in the clip. “Amazing how they fold that flag.” does.
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Kragar Thu, Sep 15, 2011 7:12:03pm |
OT
Went to my Kids' Back to School night, and it seemed like only maybe 1/3 of the parents showed up. Left me feeling depressed. On the bright side, my older daughter's teacher says she's been making real progress with her IEP this year and seems to be catching up, so there is that.
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jaunte Thu, Sep 15, 2011 7:13:34pm |
re: #3 jamesfirecat
10:Republicans cook up outrageous outrage.
20: People with more solid grasp on reality laugh at those who proclaim outrageous outrage.
30: Outrageous outrage totally disproven.
40: Republicans double down on outrageous outrage.
50: Go to 10.
50: But Solyndra!
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jaunte Thu, Sep 15, 2011 7:19:20pm |
re: #20 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
It's the next important thing to talk about, so no one has to admit they were wrong about what Michelle Obama said about the flag.
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Kragar Thu, Sep 15, 2011 7:21:00pm |
re: #21 jaunte
It's the next important thing to talk about, so no one has to admit they were wrong about what Michelle Obama said about the flag.
"LOOK! A HUGE DISTRACTING THING!"
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Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, Sep 15, 2011 7:21:20pm |
You know, I didn't really care what Michelle Obama said about the flag. I don't think the majority of American's cared either.
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Kragar Thu, Sep 15, 2011 7:22:16pm |
re: #23 ggt
You know, I didn't really care what Michelle Obama said about the flag. I don't think the majority of American's cared either.
But how can they manufacture outrage if you don't give a shit? Why do you hate America?
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CuriousLurker Thu, Sep 15, 2011 7:22:17pm |
Massive effing WINGNUT FAIL. Gawd, they make me sick.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Thu, Sep 15, 2011 7:23:22pm |
re: #25 CuriousLurker
Massive effing WINGNUT FAIL. Gawd, they make me sick.
Dumb, ignorant confederates.
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jaunte Thu, Sep 15, 2011 7:23:32pm |
Here we go again:
In a Thursday letter, over 50 House Republicans, led by Rep. Jeff Flake (R-AZ), pushed Speaker John Boehner (R-OH) to make steep cuts to discretionary spending in the next fiscal year, reneging on the agreement the parties struck to resolve the debt limit standoff. [Link: tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com...]
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Batman Thu, Sep 15, 2011 7:26:54pm |
This just in: Michelle Obama amazed at the simple task of folding a flag. Is she simple-minded? We report, you decide. Next up, we'll ask a panel of hot blonde lawyers if they think Michelle Obama could fold a map, if she didn't have people on taxpayer payroll to do it for her.
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Kragar Thu, Sep 15, 2011 7:28:58pm |
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Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, Sep 15, 2011 7:29:10pm |
re: #28 nonsense
This just in: Michelle Obama amazed at the simple task of folding a flag. Is she simple-minded? We report, you decide. Next up, we'll ask a panel of hot blonde lawyers if they think Michelle Obama could fold a map, if she didn't have people on taxpayer payroll to do it for her.
Maybe, she was amazed at the whole process, not just the flag folding. It is pretty cool to watch the choreography of it all.
But, I don't really care.
Next . . . Did you see Bubblehead II's thougtful Pages?
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Gus Thu, Sep 15, 2011 7:29:16pm |
re: #28 nonsense
This just in: Michelle Obama amazed at the simple task of folding a flag. Is she simple-minded? We report, you decide. Next up, we'll ask a panel of hot blonde lawyers if they think Michelle Obama could fold a map, if she didn't have people on taxpayer payroll to do it for her.
You have a job as a producer for Fox "News".
//
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Four More Tears Thu, Sep 15, 2011 7:29:25pm |
re: #28 nonsense
This just in: Michelle Obama amazed at the simple task of folding a flag. Is she simple-minded? We report, you decide. Next up, we'll ask a panel of hot blonde lawyers if they think Michelle Obama could fold a map, if she didn't have people on taxpayer payroll to do it for her.
Dude, you are really good at this.
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Kragar Thu, Sep 15, 2011 7:29:57pm |
re: #28 nonsense
This just in: Michelle Obama amazed at the simple task of folding a flag. Is she simple-minded? We report, you decide. Next up, we'll ask a panel of hot blonde lawyers if they think Michelle Obama could fold a map, if she didn't have people on taxpayer payroll to do it for her.
And how many times have you properly folded an American flag according to the official rules?
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jaunte Thu, Sep 15, 2011 7:30:20pm |
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Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, Sep 15, 2011 7:30:41pm |
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Varek Raith Thu, Sep 15, 2011 7:30:42pm |
BREAKING: U.S. Supreme Court Grants Stay of Execution To Duane Edward Buck
A “petition for a writ of certiorari” is a request for the Supreme Court to hear a case, so this stay lasts until the Court either decides Buck’s case on the merits or decides not to decide his case at all. As Marie Diamond reported earlier today, Buck, who is black, was sentenced to die after a psychologist testified that African-Americans are more likely to be violent.
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Varek Raith Thu, Sep 15, 2011 7:31:26pm |
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Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, Sep 15, 2011 7:31:58pm |
re: #37 Varek Raith
BREAKING: U.S. Supreme Court Grants Stay of Execution To Duane Edward Buck
Unfucking believable.
Only in Texas?
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Gus Thu, Sep 15, 2011 7:32:46pm |
re: #37 Varek Raith
BREAKING: U.S. Supreme Court Grants Stay of Execution To Duane Edward Buck
WTF? And this was only back in 1997? Damn, what a screwed up state.
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Four More Tears Thu, Sep 15, 2011 7:33:06pm |
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Sep 15, 2011 7:33:25pm |
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Thu, Sep 15, 2011 7:33:47pm |
Today has been a good day of debunking wingnut lies.
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Atlas Fails Thu, Sep 15, 2011 7:34:13pm |
re: #39 ggt
Unfucking believable.
Only in Texas?
Don't be so tough on the Texas justice system. I'm sure Iran and Syria are just as bad.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, Sep 15, 2011 7:34:29pm |
re: #42 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Well, fudge (but I didn't say fudge).
You have fudge? No nuts?
I haven't had really good fudge in a long time. . . . .
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Thu, Sep 15, 2011 7:36:37pm |
re: #39 ggt
re: #37 Varek Raith
As Marie Diamond reported earlier today, Buck, who is black, was sentenced to die after a psychologist testified that African-Americans are more likely to be violent.
But remember... Texas doesn't have any particular racial problems - so say all the hypersensitive types here.
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Mad Prophet Ludwig Thu, Sep 15, 2011 7:37:39pm |
re: #44 Atlas Fails
Don't be so tough on the Texas justice system. I'm sure Iran and Syria are just as bad.
Be careful with that Broad Brush TM... virgin ears might be offended.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, Sep 15, 2011 7:37:42pm |
re: #46 LudwigVanQuixote
re: #37 Varek Raith
As Marie Diamond reported earlier today, Buck, who is black, was sentenced to die after a psychologist testified that African-Americans are more likely to be violent.
But remember... Texas doesn't have any particular racial problems - so say all the hypersensitive types here.
Only Texas Judges?
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Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, Sep 15, 2011 7:38:12pm |
re: #47 LudwigVanQuixote
Be careful with that Broad Brush TM... virgin ears might be offended.
virgin ears?
I don't want to know . . .
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Kragar Thu, Sep 15, 2011 7:38:12pm |
re: #43 LudwigVanQuixote
Today has been a good day of debunking wingnut lies.
But Rick Perry is still magical, right?
The land rejoicing still involves droughts and fires, right?
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Varek Raith Thu, Sep 15, 2011 7:38:41pm |
re: #47 LudwigVanQuixote
Be careful with that Broad Brush TM... virgin ears might be offended.
I'M OFFENDED!!!
/
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SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Sep 15, 2011 7:38:54pm |
I interrupt this to let all of you WOW players know that my husband has a new Tauren paladin named---
Moojahid.
Because he's a paladin, you see. And a Tauren.
I now return all of you to responding to the First Lady's less-inflammatory-than-hoped-for-statement.
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Varek Raith Thu, Sep 15, 2011 7:39:26pm |
re: #49 ggt
virgin ears?
I don't want to know . . .
Yeah, you really don't.
The internet has warped mah fragile mind!
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Kragar Thu, Sep 15, 2011 7:39:36pm |
re: #52 SanFranciscoZionist
I interrupt this to let all of you WOW players know that my husband has a new Tauren paladin named---
Moojahid.
Because he's a paladin, you see. And a Tauren.
I now return all of you to responding to the First Lady's less-inflammatory-than-hoped-for-statement.
I went with Cowvalier
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SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Sep 15, 2011 7:40:05pm |
re: #2 SidewaysQuark
My God, she hates America.
I'm sure she said that in a really hostile way. Like, snidely.
/(It really is amazing watching one of those formal flag-folding exercises, which I assume is what they're looking at.)
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Varek Raith Thu, Sep 15, 2011 7:40:28pm |
re: #52 SanFranciscoZionist
I interrupt this to let all of you WOW players know that my husband has a new Tauren paladin named---
Moojahid.
Because he's a paladin, you see. And a Tauren.
I now return all of you to responding to the First Lady's less-inflammatory-than-hoped-for-statement.
Lol.
A Tauren paladin is odd enough..
XD
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Kragar Thu, Sep 15, 2011 7:40:53pm |
re: #53 Varek Raith
Yeah, you really don't.
The internet has warped mah fragile mind!
Rule 34 Ear
...
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darthstar Thu, Sep 15, 2011 7:40:58pm |
"Amazing how they fold that flag" or "I'm gazing at that old fat hag"??? Maybe Virginia Foxx was in the audience...
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Kragar Thu, Sep 15, 2011 7:41:29pm |
re: #56 JasonA
Taurens can be paladins now?
Yeah, since the last big release.
Dwarves can be Shaman now too.
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Atlas Fails Thu, Sep 15, 2011 7:41:43pm |
re: #47 LudwigVanQuixote
Be careful with that Broad Brush TM... virgin ears might be offended.
Hey, the Texans I know are great people. I even have some family from down there. Their judicial system is fucked to the core, though.
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Varek Raith Thu, Sep 15, 2011 7:41:45pm |
re: #60 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Yeah, since the last big release.
Dwarves can be Shaman now too.
Lol@WoW
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Four More Tears Thu, Sep 15, 2011 7:41:48pm |
re: #59 darthstar
You spent eight days lost at sea?
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Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, Sep 15, 2011 7:43:23pm |
WOW talk.
I just learned the difference between Orks and Orcs.
I am pitifully behind.
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Targetpractice Thu, Sep 15, 2011 7:43:29pm |
re: #53 Varek Raith
Yeah, you really don't.
The internet has warped mah fragile mind!
All the Internet did was prove to me that, as warped as I may think I am, there are millions out there far worse than I.
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Kragar Thu, Sep 15, 2011 7:44:06pm |
re: #64 ggt
WOW talk.
I just learned the difference between Orks and Orcs.
I am pitifully behind.
Orks >>> Orcs
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Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, Sep 15, 2011 7:44:20pm |
re: #65 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
All the Internet did was prove to me that, as warped as I may think I am, there are millions out there far worse than I.
And that's only the small percentage of people who actually use the internet for something other than work.
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darthstar Thu, Sep 15, 2011 7:44:30pm |
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Atlas Fails Thu, Sep 15, 2011 7:44:48pm |
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Four More Tears Thu, Sep 15, 2011 7:44:57pm |
re: #65 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
All the Internet did was prove to me that, as warped as I may think I am, there are millions out there far worse than I.
The internet has allowed this resident of Plato's cave to twist his neck around and see the outside, only to realize that the shadows are so much better to look at.
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darthstar Thu, Sep 15, 2011 7:45:23pm |
re: #69 Atlas Fails
You love watching your neighbors watch TV?
Oh, I didn't realize the gators were set free.
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Four More Tears Thu, Sep 15, 2011 7:45:25pm |
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Vicious Babushka Thu, Sep 15, 2011 7:45:39pm |
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SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Sep 15, 2011 7:45:44pm |
re: #23 ggt
You know, I didn't really care what Michelle Obama said about the flag. I don't think the majority of American's cared either.
I would have been rather offended if the First Lady, at a major public event, had said what she was supposed to have said.
Then again, I never thought she had said that, so...
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Charleston Chew Thu, Sep 15, 2011 7:45:57pm |
re: #10 Alexzander
Absolutely.
Its actually quite incredible how little scandal has befallen the Obamas.
I think there's a connection. The absurd propagation of this and similar non-scandals reminds us of just how disciplined and scandal-free the personal and professional lives of a black Democrat First Family has to be. And I'm sure they're well aware.
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darthstar Thu, Sep 15, 2011 7:46:00pm |
re: #72 JasonA
Love that commercial.
Me too...but it's still not enough to make me trust a financial institution.
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Varek Raith Thu, Sep 15, 2011 7:46:00pm |
re: #64 ggt
WOW talk.
I just learned the difference between Orks and Orcs.
I am pitifully behind.
NEED MOAR DAKKA!
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Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, Sep 15, 2011 7:46:22pm |
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Four More Tears Thu, Sep 15, 2011 7:46:33pm |
re: #76 darthstar
Me too...but it's still not enough to make me trust a financial institution.
But but... Raise your rate CD!
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Four More Tears Thu, Sep 15, 2011 7:46:54pm |
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Targetpractice Thu, Sep 15, 2011 7:47:02pm |
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SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Sep 15, 2011 7:47:21pm |
re: #33 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
And how many times have you properly folded an American flag according to the official rules?
I've tried. At one school I taught at, one of the kids took it upon himself to take care of our flag, since the school hadn't a clue. (A first bad sign.)
I think we did something that wasn't shameful, but certainly didn't have the dazzle of what they do at proper military ceremonies.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, Sep 15, 2011 7:47:28pm |
re: #79 JasonA
But but... Raise your rate CD!
to .000025% apr?
I remember when passbook savings accounts paid 5.25% and that rate had been the same so long, I thought it was just the way it was.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Sep 15, 2011 7:47:35pm |
I guess every White House PR folks have had conversations with the POTUS and First Ladies and others to watch what they say because there are always going to be lip readers in the crowd.
They had to be extra careful with the Obamas, I'm sure.
"Now, Mrs. Obama. We all know how you hate America and are trying to hasten its destruction. But you just can't talk it in public. And please ask your husband not to refer to you in public as 'Comrade'. Talk about your plan on tossing out the Constitution anytime you feel like it when you are in the Executive Quarters or in the Oval office."
/
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Gus Thu, Sep 15, 2011 7:47:35pm |
On the Texas death penalty stay...
But under cross-examination, Quijano acknowledged to prosecutors that certain factors are associated with violent crime. For instance, the prosecutor asked, "The race factor, black, increases the future dangerousness for various complicated reasons; is that correct?"
"Yes," Quijano replied.
The jury concluded that Buck, a black man, would continue to be violent, and sentenced him to death.
[Link: www.chron.com...]
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Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, Sep 15, 2011 7:47:58pm |
re: #82 SanFranciscoZionist
I've tried. At one school I taught at, one of the kids took it upon himself to take care of our flag, since the school hadn't a clue. (A first bad sign.)
I think we did something that wasn't shameful, but certainly didn't have the dazzle of what they do at proper military ceremonies.
We had to learn in Girl Scouts.
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SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Sep 15, 2011 7:49:10pm |
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Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, Sep 15, 2011 7:49:30pm |
re: #85 Gus 802
On the Texas death penalty stay...
But under cross-examination, Quijano acknowledged to prosecutors that certain factors are associated with violent crime. For instance, the prosecutor asked, "The race factor, black, increases the future dangerousness for various complicated reasons; is that correct?"
"Yes," Quijano replied.
The jury concluded that Buck, a black man, would continue to be violent, and sentenced him to death.
[Link: www.chron.com...]
Black is a factor? What about his crimes?
Black is a factor? What about his history?
Black is a factor?
Black is a factor?
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Gus Thu, Sep 15, 2011 7:49:43pm |
The State of Texas only wants to execute this murderer for the sole reason that he is black. If Buck had been a white man, he would not have been sentenced to death.
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Kragar Thu, Sep 15, 2011 7:49:45pm |
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Charleston Chew Thu, Sep 15, 2011 7:49:46pm |
re: #55 SanFranciscoZionist
I'm sure she said that in a really hostile way. Like, snidely.
/(It really is amazing watching one of those formal flag-folding exercises, which I assume is what they're looking at.)
Once again the First Lady has confounded her enemies by displaying normal mundane human behavior.
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Varek Raith Thu, Sep 15, 2011 7:50:20pm |
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jaunte Thu, Sep 15, 2011 7:50:22pm |
re: #85 Gus 802
"The race factor, black, increases the future dangerousness for various complicated reasons; is that correct?"
This must be why my son keeps getting stopped by the police for walking through the neighborhood he's lived in for 18 years.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Sep 15, 2011 7:50:45pm |
C.D. Bales: [shouting through the front door] Ten more seconds and I'm leaving!
Roxanne Kowalski: [opening the door] What did you say?
C.D. Bales: I said, ten more seconds and I'm leaving! Wait a second! What did you think I said?
Roxanne Kowalski: I thought you said, "Earn more sessions by sleeving."
C.D. Bales: Well, what the hell does that mean?
Roxanne Kowalski: I don't know. That's why I came out
-Roxanne
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Kragar Thu, Sep 15, 2011 7:51:28pm |
re: #94 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
C.D. Bales: [shouting through the front door] Ten more seconds and I'm leaving!
Roxanne Kowalski: [opening the door] What did you say?
C.D. Bales: I said, ten more seconds and I'm leaving! Wait a second! What did you think I said?
Roxanne Kowalski: I thought you said, "Earn more sessions by sleeving."
C.D. Bales: Well, what the hell does that mean?
Roxanne Kowalski: I don't know. That's why I came out
-Roxanne
Trouble at the mill...
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Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, Sep 15, 2011 7:51:33pm |
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Targetpractice Thu, Sep 15, 2011 7:51:35pm |
re: #89 Gus 802
The State of Texas only wants to execute this murderer for the sole reason that he is black. If Buck had been a white man, he would not have been sentenced to death.
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darthstar Thu, Sep 15, 2011 7:52:17pm |
re: #91 Charleston Chew
Once again the First Lady has confounded her enemies by displaying normal mundane human behavior.
In twenty years these same people will loudly be remembering what a sweet and wonderful first lady she was.
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HappyWarrior Thu, Sep 15, 2011 7:54:04pm |
The fact that this was made in to a nontroversy at all says volumes about those who did. Seriously what a bunch of deranged losers.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Sep 15, 2011 7:55:14pm |
Why do I keep checking Drudge? Look at the Banner... click the link...
What disconnect? Utter horseshit.
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Atlas Fails Thu, Sep 15, 2011 7:55:15pm |
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Four More Tears Thu, Sep 15, 2011 7:55:15pm |
Wow. I've seen all of those Ally Bank commercials. But up until it was mentioned in this thread I could swear I had never heard of them. Yet I remember each and every one of those spots. Weird.
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Targetpractice Thu, Sep 15, 2011 7:55:19pm |
re: #99 HappyWarrior
The fact that this was made in to a nontroversy at all says volumes about those who did. Seriously what a bunch of deranged losers.
Thought it pretty fitting that such a non-troversy sparks up the day after the last one involving cries of "paranoia!" over Obama's campaign setting up a site devoted to debunking such bullshit accusations.
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HappyWarrior Thu, Sep 15, 2011 7:55:29pm |
OT but I am back from seeing Hangover Part II. Had laughs but not as funny as the first one or Bridesmaids. The monkey is sweet though as monkeys are.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, Sep 15, 2011 7:55:33pm |
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Gus Thu, Sep 15, 2011 7:56:33pm |
Previous request for stay. Actual court document:
On cross-examination, the prosecutor questioned Dr. Quijano regarding the several factors that he had mentioned during direct examination. At one point, the prosecutor — without objection from Buck’s defense counsel — asked Dr. Quijano about his consideration of both race and sex as relevant factors in his future-dangerousness analysis, which led to the following exchange:
Q: You have determined that the sex factor, that a male is more violent than a female because that’s just the way it is, and that the race factor, black, increases the future dangerousness for various complicated reasons; is that correct?
A: Yes.
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HappyWarrior Thu, Sep 15, 2011 7:56:52pm |
re: #103 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
Thought it pretty fitting that such a non-troversy sparks up the day after the last one involving cries of "paranoia!" over Obama's campaign setting up a site devoted to debunking such bullshit accusations.
Yeah these people are the definition of paranoid. Really I just looked at the First Lady's face and it's clear as day that she's moved by the ceremony. I mean shit you can still disagree with someone politically without thinking they hate the country. A fact lost one those right wing bloggers who have a fantasy of the Obamas burning flags and laughing evilly and chanting in Arabic.
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jaunte Thu, Sep 15, 2011 7:57:38pm |
re: #108 Gus 802
And the Guvner is the Republican front-runner.
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Kragar Thu, Sep 15, 2011 7:58:48pm |
re: #108 Gus 802
Texas is a third world country.
LIES!
3rd world countries at least try to move forward, not back.
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Gus Thu, Sep 15, 2011 7:58:49pm |
re: #109 jaunte
And the Guvner is the Republican front-runner.
A match made in heaven. The GOP always had a thing for South American dictators.
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Charleston Chew Thu, Sep 15, 2011 7:59:33pm |
re: #98 darthstar
In twenty years these same people will loudly be remembering what a sweet and wonderful first lady she was.
Considering the age of Fox News viewers, they'll be lucky to still be alive in 20 years.
Especially after the GOP gut SS & Medicare and fills the air and water with pollution.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, Sep 15, 2011 7:59:40pm |
re: #111 Gus 802
A match made in heaven. The GOP always had a thing for South American dictators.
It's the drug money . . .
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jaunte Thu, Sep 15, 2011 8:00:06pm |
Here's a little Texas connection to the next big outrageous outrage:
Bush admin pushed Solyndra loan guarantee for two years
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Sep 15, 2011 8:00:48pm |
re: #104 HappyWarrior
OT but I am back from seeing Hangover Part II. Had laughs but not as funny as the first one or Bridesmaids. The monkey is sweet though as monkeys are.
I liked it more than the first one.
Two movies I've seen this week? The Debt (Fan-freaking-tastic).
Today I saw "My Idiot Brother". 20 times better than the reviews and than I thought it would be. I actually thought it was a very sweet movie.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Thu, Sep 15, 2011 8:01:27pm |
I am still going with:
My nylons are starting to sag.
If you eat that pie I will nag.
The girls are going to play a game of tag.
I'm really starting to feel this jet lag.
That waitress was such a hag.
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Gus Thu, Sep 15, 2011 8:02:05pm |
re: #114 jaunte
Here's a little Texas connection to the next big outrageous outrage:
Bush admin pushed Solyndra loan guarantee for two years
...
But! But! But Bush wasn't really a Republican!
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SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Sep 15, 2011 8:02:45pm |
re: #86 ggt
We had to learn in Girl Scouts.
I never got that far. We looked it up on the Internet.
This was the school where they thought it would be OK to fly the U.S. flag below Mexico's on Cinco De Mayo.
I explained.
Then they thought it would be OK to fly Mexico's flag under the U.S.'s.
I explained.
It was a long staff meeting.
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HappyWarrior Thu, Sep 15, 2011 8:03:04pm |
re: #115 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I liked it more than the first one.
Two movies I've seen this week? The Debt (Fan-freaking-tastic).
Today I saw "My Idiot Brother". 20 times better than the reviews and than I thought it would be. I actually thought it was a very sweet movie.
I liked the first one more. But it was good to see Mike Tyson make a cameo. I was disappointed that President Clinton did not since I had heard that he would. I want to see the Debt and I trust your review. Same thing with My Idiot Brother since Zooey Deschanel plays one of Paul Rudd's sisters and I love Zooey.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, Sep 15, 2011 8:03:40pm |
re: #116 EmmmieG
I am still going with:
My nylons are starting to sag.
If you eat that pie I will nag.
The girls are going to play a game of tag.
I'm really starting to feel this jet lag.
That waitress was such a hag.
I don't get this bag.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Sep 15, 2011 8:03:45pm |
re: #119 HappyWarrior
(she plays a lesbianese)
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Thu, Sep 15, 2011 8:04:05pm |
re: #33 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
And how many times have you properly folded an American flag according to the official rules?
Cub Scouts learn at the age of 8.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, Sep 15, 2011 8:04:41pm |
re: #122 EmmmieG
Cub Scouts learn at the age of 8.
Actually, I think we learned in Brownie Scouts.
I think we had a flag ceremony every meeting.
It was soooo long ago. I remember we had to wear gloves.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, Sep 15, 2011 8:05:35pm |
Monster Puppy and Old Man Dog are now protecting their respective rawhides from each other. Chewing, watching, protecting.
It's so strange.
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BongCrodny Thu, Sep 15, 2011 8:06:06pm |
re: #26 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
Dumb, ignorant confederates.
Whoa! Deja vu!
Theoretically, I should be able to upding any post about deja vu twice.
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HappyWarrior Thu, Sep 15, 2011 8:06:17pm |
re: #121 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
(she plays a lesbianese)
Yeah I saw that in the review. Her girl friend is played by Quincy Jones' daughter Rashida who I find also attractive.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Thu, Sep 15, 2011 8:06:21pm |
re: #15 Atlas Fails
Girl scouts!?! The same girl scouts who came out as (gasp!) neutral on abortion and gay rights? They're not patriotic, they're communists, obviously. A better alternative would be the God-fearing American Heritage Girls.
We can't. My family's not welcome in the American Heritage Girls.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, Sep 15, 2011 8:06:57pm |
re: #128 EmmmieG
We can't. My family's not welcome in the American Heritage Girls.
Do we want to know why?
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Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, Sep 15, 2011 8:07:36pm |
re: #126 BongCrodny
Whoa! Deja vu!
Theoretically, I should be able to upding any post about deja vu twice.
I think you'd have to repost it for it to be truly deja vu
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Thu, Sep 15, 2011 8:07:36pm |
re: #129 ggt
Do we want to know why?
We're Mormons. You pretty much have to be mainstream Christians.
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BongCrodny Thu, Sep 15, 2011 8:08:41pm |
re: #130 ggt
I think you'd have to repost it for it to be truly deja vu
I could swear I already did that...
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goddamnedfrank Thu, Sep 15, 2011 8:09:59pm |
re: #116 EmmmieG
I am still going with:
My nylons are starting to sag.
If you eat that pie I will nag.
The girls are going to play a game of tag.
I'm really starting to feel this jet lag.
That waitress was such a hag.
Did you remember to tivo JAG?
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Sep 15, 2011 8:09:59pm |
re: #121 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
(she plays a lesbianese)
Oh! She plays a lesbianese with another actress that I have the hots for. Rashida (freakin') Jones. RAWR.
The mind wandered a bit.
Interesting factoid? Rashida Jones is Quincy Jones' daughter.
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Four More Tears Thu, Sep 15, 2011 8:10:11pm |
I'm eating strawberry shortcake and you're not.
That is all.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Sep 15, 2011 8:10:33pm |
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Targetpractice Thu, Sep 15, 2011 8:11:12pm |
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Four More Tears Thu, Sep 15, 2011 8:11:41pm |
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Thu, Sep 15, 2011 8:11:45pm |
re: #135 JasonA
I'm eating strawberry shortcake and you're not.
That is all.
If you were a real American, you'd be eating apple pie.
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Four More Tears Thu, Sep 15, 2011 8:12:16pm |
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Thu, Sep 15, 2011 8:13:29pm |
re: #140 JasonA
I'm not. I'm a Liberal.
Then I'm surprised you're not eating tiramasu, or flan, or some such furrin dessert.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Sep 15, 2011 8:13:32pm |
re: #134 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Oh, and Peggy Lipton's her mommy.
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HappyWarrior Thu, Sep 15, 2011 8:13:57pm |
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brainiac-dumdum Thu, Sep 15, 2011 8:14:26pm |
re: #5 Atlas Fails
What do a bunch of deaf people know about talking? They can't even hear!
/Probable Dim Hoft response
I guffawed
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SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Sep 15, 2011 8:17:12pm |
re: #128 EmmmieG
We can't. My family's not welcome in the American Heritage Girls.
Do they not take Mormons, or is there some more specific, scandalous incident of which we should all be made aware?
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Sep 15, 2011 8:19:45pm |
re: #135 JasonA
I'm having turnip greens.
.
.
.
.
you win.
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freetoken Thu, Sep 15, 2011 8:22:12pm |
re: #135 JasonA
I'm eating strawberry shortcake and you're not.
That is all.
I'm eating freshly picked figs.
It's a wonderful time of the year.
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darthstar Thu, Sep 15, 2011 8:22:15pm |
re: #147 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I'm having turnip greens.
.
.
.
.
you win.
I made a pizza with garlic, olive oil, mozzarella, pancetta and corn. Warmed the oil and garlic with a bit of tomato paste and harissa first...came out quite nice.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Sep 15, 2011 8:23:35pm |
re: #149 darthstar
I got a rock.
-Charlie Brown
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Thu, Sep 15, 2011 8:24:44pm |
re: #145 SanFranciscoZionist
Do they not take Mormons, or is there some more specific, scandalous incident of which we should all be made aware?
They say anyone can join, but the first half of their creed specifies the Triune God, which would also lock out all those who don't believe in Christ.
I suppose you could just ignore it. I've known atheists to just join Cub Scouts anyway. I was looking over the website, and I think they've softened a bit. When I looked into it when my daughter was much younger, I recall a strong statement that you had to accept the creed.
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jaunte Thu, Sep 15, 2011 8:26:11pm |
More Solyndra / solar energy business info:
Chinese cheaters? How China dominates solar
...snip...
Remarkably, even with all the pressure from China, the U.S. is a net exporter of solar products to the country. A new report issued by GTM Research and the Solar Energy Industries Association shows that America had a $247 million solar trade surplus with China in 2010, mostly because of polysilicon and equipment shipments.
"Yeah, that's great. But we're just sending the raw materials and buying back the finished goods," explained Suniva's Bryan Ashley. "That's a going-out-of-business strategy. Pretty soon they'll figure out how to produce quality polysilicon and they'll be doing it all themselves. We need to re-learn how to make things in this country."
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Lidane Thu, Sep 15, 2011 8:26:13pm |
Remember the wingnut douchebag who said that registering the poor to vote is un-American?
Well, here's his latest gem of derpitude:
Vadum: Obama's Jobs Bill Could Give 'Un-American' ACORN $15 Billion To Help Poor People Vote
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Gus Thu, Sep 15, 2011 8:26:44pm |
Made some more panorama images from my road trip...
Image: Salt-Lake-Pano.jpg
Image: Medicine-Bow-Pano.jpg
Image: Snowy-Range-Pano.jpg
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WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Thu, Sep 15, 2011 8:27:21pm |
re: #154 Lidane
what's less American than voting? :D
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Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, Sep 15, 2011 8:30:19pm |
I'm having fresh ice coffee with cream and sugar.
made it myself!
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Gus Thu, Sep 15, 2011 8:32:57pm |
re: #159 jaunte
I badly need to go see a mountain soon.
I can suggest several place but I'm sure you know those as well. Medicine Bow is a really nice out of the way area and little used. But if you go north from Rocky Mountain National Park you can go to Medicine Bow. Then up towards the Grand Tetons and Yellowstone and straight towards Glacier National Park. Beyond into Canada of course.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, Sep 15, 2011 8:35:16pm |
I reallly don't get the whole mountain mystique.
I could, however, look at the Great Lakes or the Ocean forever.
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jaunte Thu, Sep 15, 2011 8:35:51pm |
Marine #DakotaMeyer becomes 3rd living recipient of the Medal of Honor for saving 36 in Afghanistan.
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Dark_Falcon Thu, Sep 15, 2011 8:38:51pm |
re: #19 jaunte
50: But Solyndra!
That's relevant for some purposes, but it does not impact on the Obamas directly. Its vanishingly unlikely Barack Obama had any involvement with the Solynda loans; He just praised them as part of his normal political activities. So it does reflect bad judgement on the part of relevant part of the executive branch to have loaned that money, but not on the Chief Executive himself.
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HappyWarrior Thu, Sep 15, 2011 8:43:28pm |
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Sep 15, 2011 8:45:53pm |
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Digital Display Thu, Sep 15, 2011 8:45:57pm |
You Lizards hear about that new #1 movie in America? Contagion?
You know everybody dies..Right? Well except for Charlie Sheen..
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Thu, Sep 15, 2011 8:46:25pm |
re: #167 HoosierHoops
You Lizards hear about that new #1 movie in America? Contagion?
You know everybody dies..Right? Well except for Charlie Sheen..
That's because Tiger Blood is not susceptible to viruses.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Sep 15, 2011 8:46:34pm |
re: #167 HoosierHoops
Ix-nay on the oiler-spay.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Thu, Sep 15, 2011 8:47:11pm |
re: #169 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Ix-nay on the oiler-spay.
How about...Everyone dies except for the sparkly vampires?
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Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, Sep 15, 2011 8:47:53pm |
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SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Sep 15, 2011 8:48:21pm |
re: #167 HoosierHoops
You Lizards hear about that new #1 movie in America? Contagion?
You know everybody dies..Right? Well except for Charlie Sheen..
I actually had to watch that Charlie Sheen interview with the tiger blood and all for my Psychopathology class.
Because it's not so often that someone has a manic episode and gets interviewed by Katie Couric while they're doing it.
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Digital Display Thu, Sep 15, 2011 8:49:15pm |
re: #169 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Ix-nay on the oiler-spay.
I ran that through Google interpreter for French.. I got nothing..
What am I doing wrong?
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Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, Sep 15, 2011 8:49:22pm |
re: #172 SanFranciscoZionist
I actually had to watch that Charlie Sheen interview with the tiger blood and all for my Psychopathology class.
Because it's not so often that someone has a manic episode and gets interviewed by Katie Couric while they're doing it.
You know, I missed all that.
I'm not sorry.
Is it on youtube?
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Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, Sep 15, 2011 8:49:45pm |
re: #173 HoosierHoops
I ran that through Google interpreter for French.. I got nothing..
What am I doing wrong?
It's a form of latin
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freetoken Thu, Sep 15, 2011 8:49:59pm |
re: #167 HoosierHoops
There was a big Japanese movie several years ago that was pretty much a bust as far as reviews and sales, but had it's moments IMO. Many named Western stars, mostly in English. Apocalyptic in nature, it's online for free:
The new movie Contagion may be better, but in the end it's all the same idea.
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SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Sep 15, 2011 8:50:06pm |
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celticdragon Thu, Sep 15, 2011 8:50:16pm |
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Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, Sep 15, 2011 8:50:36pm |
re: #178 celticdragon
RED WONZ GO FASTERRR!
Thus saith Gork, or possibly Mork.
I only listen to Varek.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Sep 15, 2011 8:52:10pm |
re: #176 freetoken
I'm listening to the book "Strain" right now. Freakin' disturbing.
I think we'll die of some type of "Captain Trips" thing before AGW or a meteor gets us.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Thu, Sep 15, 2011 8:52:20pm |
re: #88 ggt
Black is a factor? What about his crimes?
Black is a factor? What about his history?
Black is a factor?
Black is a factor?
You sound surprised.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, Sep 15, 2011 8:52:22pm |
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Digital Display Thu, Sep 15, 2011 8:52:53pm |
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Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, Sep 15, 2011 8:52:55pm |
re: #181 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
You sound surprised.
I know, I shouldn't.
IT'S FREAKIN 2011!
2011!
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Sep 15, 2011 8:53:13pm |
re: #170 EmmmieG
Great. "Sparkly vampires"; just what the world needs.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, Sep 15, 2011 8:53:15pm |
re: #183 HoosierHoops
I get it..You are saying my Satire Tonight really sucks..Ok..OK
/
You don't like mine?
:(
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celticdragon Thu, Sep 15, 2011 8:53:28pm |
re: #154 Lidane
Remember the wingnut douchebag who said that registering the poor to vote is un-American?
Well, here's his latest gem of derpitude:
Vadum: Obama's Jobs Bill Could Give 'Un-American' ACORN $15 Billion To Help Poor People Vote
They guy is a walking Godwin violation.
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Targetpractice Thu, Sep 15, 2011 8:53:29pm |
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Thu, Sep 15, 2011 8:53:54pm |
re: #115 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I liked it more than the first one.
Two movies I've seen this week? The Debt (Fan-freaking-tastic).
I need to see this one. Heard great things about it.
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Dark_Falcon Thu, Sep 15, 2011 8:54:02pm |
re: #180 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I'm listening to the book "Strain" right now. Freakin' disturbing.
I think we'll die of some type of "Captain Trips" thing before AGW or a meteor gets us.
Don't worry about that too much. It's not something you can do much about other than be prepared personally, and worrying too much leaves you sick and in pain.
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jaunte Thu, Sep 15, 2011 8:54:03pm |
re: #188 Targetpractice, Worst of Both Worlds
The boat sinks.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, Sep 15, 2011 8:55:05pm |
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Sep 15, 2011 8:55:06pm |
re: #189 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
I need to see this one. Heard great things about it.
A brutally honest movie.
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celticdragon Thu, Sep 15, 2011 8:55:11pm |
re: #180 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I'm listening to the book "Strain" right now. Freakin' disturbing.
I think we'll die of some type of "Captain Trips" thing before AGW or a meteor gets us.
My money is on weaponized Ebola.
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Interesting Times Thu, Sep 15, 2011 8:55:15pm |
re: #180 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I think we'll die of some type of "Captain Trips" thing before AGW or a meteor gets us.
Or a royal fuck-up from industrial agriculture:
The bacteria had been tested--as it turns out in a careless and very unscientific mannner--by scientists working for the biotech industry and was believed to be safe for the environment. Fortunately a team of independent scientists, headed by Dr. Elaine Ingham of Oregon State University, decided to run their own tests on the gene-altered Klebsiella planticola. What they discovered was not only startling, but terrifying--the biotech industry had created a biological monster--a genetically engineered microorganism that would kill all terrestrial plants.
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SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Sep 15, 2011 8:55:28pm |
re: #177 SanFranciscoZionist
Oh yes.
Not really worth seeing, except for clinical purposes, or just as a trainwreck. The grandiosity that often goes with manic episodes is in full force.
Our professor said, "There are substance abuse issues, and clearly possibly a personality disorder as well, but just try to focus on the bipolar symptoms for this assignment.
Classic manic problem: he feels great, and has no intention of seeking treatment. People describe full-blown mania as feeling like heroin, or orgasm. Convincing someone that they have a problem while they're feeling like that is pretty hard.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, Sep 15, 2011 8:55:48pm |
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Sep 15, 2011 8:56:15pm |
re: #190 Dark_Falcon
I didn't say I was worried. Just said that's the way I think the human race'll go bye-bye.
Just think... all those possums crossing the road safely.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, Sep 15, 2011 8:56:43pm |
re: #196 SanFranciscoZionist
Not really worth seeing, except for clinical purposes, or just as a trainwreck. The grandiosity that often goes with manic episodes is in full force.
Our professor said, "There are substance abuse issues, and clearly possibly a personality disorder as well, but just try to focus on the bipolar symptoms for this assignment.
Classic manic problem: he feels great, and has no intention of seeking treatment. People describe full-blown mania as feeling like heroin, or orgasm. Convincing someone that they have a problem while they're feeling like that is pretty hard.
And the side-effects from meds can be counter-productive.
Horrible, horrible illness.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Thu, Sep 15, 2011 8:56:45pm |
re: #107 HappyWarrior
Yeah these people are the definition of paranoid. Really I just looked at the First Lady's face and it's clear as day that she's moved by the ceremony. I mean shit you can still disagree with someone politically without thinking they hate the country. A fact lost one those right wing bloggers who have a fantasy of the Obamas burning flags and laughing evilly and chanting in Arabic.
Paranoid and delusional, because they view ALL of us that way. They look at all of us that way, because we all look alike to them, from Prince to the Obamas to Miles Davis.
Delusional, yet demanding respect from those whom they give none.
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SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Sep 15, 2011 8:57:20pm |
re: #198 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I didn't say I was worried. Just said that's the way I think the human race'll go bye-bye.
Just think... all those possums crossing the road safely.
Kinky Friedman says he hopes there's a world where intelligent armadillos scoop out humans, dry them, and sell them as novelty baskets.
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Targetpractice Thu, Sep 15, 2011 8:57:36pm |
re: #180 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I'm listening to the book "Strain" right now. Freakin' disturbing.
I think we'll die of some type of "Captain Trips" thing before AGW or a meteor gets us.
So, does this mean I'll see you in Boulder?
/
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Thu, Sep 15, 2011 8:57:48pm |
re: #193 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
A brutally honest movie.
Last movie like that I saw was The White Ribbon. F'ed up movie...instant favorite.
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Alexzander Thu, Sep 15, 2011 8:59:02pm |
re: #202 SanFranciscoZionist
Are you currently studying to enter some kind of mental health profession?
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celticdragon Thu, Sep 15, 2011 8:59:06pm |
re: #195 publicityStunted
That is a variation of Grey Ooze.
Self-replicating machines of the macroscopic variety were originally described by mathematician John von Neumann, and are sometimes referred to as von Neumann machines. The term grey goo was coined by nanotechnology pioneer Eric Drexler in his 1986 book Engines of Creation,[4] stating that "we cannot afford certain types of accidents."
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austin_blue Thu, Sep 15, 2011 8:59:35pm |
re: #167 HoosierHoops
You Lizards hear about that new #1 movie in America? Contagion?
You know everybody dies..Right? Well except for Charlie Sheen..
Hoops! Thanks for the cold front! No rain, but we topped out at 96 today! Yay!
Oh, wait, cold front, 96, hmmm...
Anyway, here's our drought status:
[Link: droughtmonitor.unl.edu...]
and our forecast through the end of the year:
[Link: www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov...]
Oofah.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Thu, Sep 15, 2011 9:00:02pm |
re: #184 ggt
IT'S FREAKIN 2011!
2011!
Same old dumb confederate mentality, different millennium. Expecting much from them will only leave one disappointed.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, Sep 15, 2011 9:02:17pm |
Monster Puppy and Old Man dog started some male-oriented bantering about their respective rawhides.
Roughly translated I think it went something like:
Old Man Dog: My rawhide is bigger than yours.
Monster Puppy: You chew like a pussy.
Old Man Dog: Yeah, coming from someone who tries to hump his sister,
At that point, I took all the rawhides and put them on top of the fridge.
They are both quiet now.
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Targetpractice Thu, Sep 15, 2011 9:03:09pm |
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freetoken Thu, Sep 15, 2011 9:03:38pm |
re: #207 austin_blue
[Link: droughtmonitor.unl.edu...]
Let not your heart be troubled, for Rick Perry has prayed for you, and we know that Rick Perry and God have a special thing going wrt atmospheric phenomena.
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HappyWarrior Thu, Sep 15, 2011 9:03:44pm |
re: #200 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
Paranoid and delusional, because they view ALL of us that way. They look at all of us that way, because we all look alike to them, from Prince to the Obamas to Miles Davis.
Delusional, yet demanding respect from those whom they give none.
I know how they are. It's pathetic is what it is. Funny how they think they're the enlightened ones and it's the Obamas and others who are the real racist ones. Racism is first and foremost a disease of denial if you ask me.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, Sep 15, 2011 9:04:09pm |
re: #214 HappyWarrior
I know how they are. It's pathetic is what it is. Funny how they think they're the enlightened ones and it's the Obamas and others who are the real racist ones. Racism is first and foremost a disease of denial if you ask me.
Disease of Fear.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Sep 15, 2011 9:04:16pm |
re: #202 SanFranciscoZionist
One of my favorite "The Far Side" comics.
Elephant leaning on a crutch, one leg's a stump; talking on a pay-phone, says, "They made it into a what?"
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Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, Sep 15, 2011 9:04:51pm |
re: #216 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
One of my favorite "The Far Side" comics.
Elephant leaning on a crutch, one leg's a stump; talking on a pay-phone, says, "They made it into a what?"
How many elephants . . .
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HappyWarrior Thu, Sep 15, 2011 9:05:16pm |
re: #215 ggt
Disease of Fear.
It's that too but denial in the sense that the other race's humanity is denied. Look at the comments that you see on the right wing blogs that compare them to animals. Racism at its first step is denying humanity. It's fear too and I agree with that but I feel it's about denial first.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Sep 15, 2011 9:06:51pm |
re: #217 ggt
For every set of horseshoes human beings use for luck
Somewhere in this world's a barefoot horse.
-Allen Sherman
G'NIGHT KNUCKLEHEADS!
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Thu, Sep 15, 2011 9:07:33pm |
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SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Sep 15, 2011 9:07:53pm |
re: #205 Alexzander
Are you currently studying to enter some kind of mental health profession?
Yeah, I'm doing courses toward an MFT. My new dream for what I want to be when I grow up is to have a private counseling practice.
My special interests right now are hoarding behavior, and teenagers with substance abuse problems, but we shall see...
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Digital Display Thu, Sep 15, 2011 9:09:21pm |
re: #207 austin_blue
Hoops! Thanks for the cold front! No rain, but we topped out at 96 today! Yay!
Oh, wait, cold front, 96, hmmm...
Anyway, here's our drought status:
[Link: droughtmonitor.unl.edu...]
and our forecast through the end of the year:
[Link: www.cpc.ncep.noaa.gov...]
Oofah.
So it was like 103 yesterday and 61 degrees today.. I'm getting used to it now...It's a drought so I figure we will flood next week and my car will float away..Something is going to happen any day now..I know it..It's Oklahoma...I often wonder..If you were an Indain here hundreds of years ago.. Why would you stay? I'd be gone the first spring...See you guys later...Go West young Indian...
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Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, Sep 15, 2011 9:09:52pm |
re: #218 HappyWarrior
It's that too but denial in the sense that the other race's humanity is denied. Look at the comments that you see on the right wing blogs that compare them to animals. Racism at its first step is denying humanity. It's fear too and I agree with that but I feel it's about denial first.
Fear is under denial.
One must have a reason to deny.
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SanFranciscoZionist Thu, Sep 15, 2011 9:09:52pm |
re: #214 HappyWarrior
I know how they are. It's pathetic is what it is. Funny how they think they're the enlightened ones and it's the Obamas and others who are the real racist ones. Racism is first and foremost a disease of denial if you ask me.
One of the sites I saw earlier today referred to 'what's coming out of Michelle Obama's big fat racist lips'. I thought there was a subtle irony to that, but I think they missed it.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Thu, Sep 15, 2011 9:11:05pm |
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HappyWarrior Thu, Sep 15, 2011 9:13:13pm |
re: #220 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
re: #215 ggt
Condi once called it a "birth defect". I disagree with disease analogies. They're perfectly capable of educating themselves out of it, but there are too many social perks not to. That's another reason they resent people with educations.
Dumb bigots.
True maybe disease isn't the best way of putting it but I do think racism at its base is about denial. If you deny a fellow human being's humanity then you can think the worst about them. I'd disagree with Condi on birth defect since I think it's something that is learned.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, Sep 15, 2011 9:14:57pm |
re: #226 HappyWarrior
True maybe disease isn't the best way of putting it but I do think racism at its base is about denial. If you deny a fellow human being's humanity then you can think the worst about them. I'd disagree with Condi on birth defect since I think it's something that is learned.
Denial is a reaction.
We fear that which we don't understand (among other things).
For some, it's easier to deny. Denial can also be a learned response.
but first there has to be something to respond to.
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HappyWarrior Thu, Sep 15, 2011 9:15:07pm |
re: #222 HoosierHoops
So it was like 103 yesterday and 61 degrees today.. I'm getting used to it now...It's a drought so I figure we will flood next week and my car will float away..Something is going to happen any day now..I know it..It's Oklahoma...I often wonder..If you were an Indain here hundreds of years ago.. Why would you stay? I'd be gone the first spring...See you guys later...Go West young Indian...
Got really cold here tonight. Was really unexpected because today was a normal late summer warm but not too hot Northern Virginia day but then when I went out to dinner and the movie it got cold fast. Knew it was calling for rain so I wore my windbreaker but I was shocked how cold it got and then I look at the forecast and it's gonna be like this for a while. Glad I packed more jeans then I did shorts for the school year. I prefer jeans anyhow. They go with more of my shirts.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Thu, Sep 15, 2011 9:15:24pm |
re: #218 HappyWarrior
It's that too but denial in the sense that the other race's humanity is denied. Look at the comments that you see on the right wing blogs that compare them to animals. Racism at its first step is denying humanity. It's fear too and I agree with that but I feel it's about denial first.
It's just more conservative self-loathing. They are innundated with anti-humanity ideas, firstly about themselves for having been born at all. When they dehumanize themselves like that, how are they going to treat anyone else.
Lol this is why they get laughed at when they demand "respect" from people they themselves do not respect. What kind of warped identity relies on that? LOL!
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Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, Sep 15, 2011 9:16:20pm |
re: #229 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
It's just more conservative self-loathing. They are innundated with anti-humanity ideas, firstly about themselves for having been born at all. When they dehumanize themselves like that, how are they going to treat anyone else.
Lol this is why they get laughed at when they demand "respect" from people they themselves do not respect. What kind of warped identity relies on that? LOL!
Exactly. One has to love oneself before one can love anyone else.
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HappyWarrior Thu, Sep 15, 2011 9:17:01pm |
re: #227 ggt
Denial is a reaction.
We fear that which we don't understand (among other things).
For some, it's easier to deny. Denial can also be a learned response.
but first there has to be something to respond to.
I do think there's definitely fear at play. Anyhow, my big history paper this semester is going to be on why late 19th century and early 20th century erupited in to violent Anti-Semitism during the times of the pogroms. Should make for some interesting research.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Thu, Sep 15, 2011 9:17:24pm |
re: #227 ggt
We fear that which we don't understand (among other things).
Ignorant people do that. They do that because they are taught that. They can unlearn it.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, Sep 15, 2011 9:19:28pm |
re: #232 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
Ignorant people do that. They do that because they are taught that. They can unlearn it.
Some are taught. For other's it is a knee-jerk response. Fear is an inborn survival tool. It get's all fucked-up as we become adults.
I don't have any answer beyond Education and Contraception.
Humans feel, then think. Unfortunately.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Thu, Sep 15, 2011 9:19:44pm |
re: #231 HappyWarrior
I do think there's definitely fear at play. Anyhow, my big history paper this semester is going to be on why late 19th century and early 20th century erupited in to violent Anti-Semitism during the times of the pogroms. Should make for some interesting research.
Yeah, scapegoating is a big one. Scapegoating is a major backdrop to Christianity, too. Are you looking at the Americas or Europe or both?
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HappyWarrior Thu, Sep 15, 2011 9:19:48pm |
We were discussing James Baldwin's Going to Meet the Man in my modern American lit course today. Professor is an older guy who was a college student during the Civil Rights years and is a white southerner, and the way he described the brutality towards the demonstrators. Man you just wanna shake your head in amazement. It amazed because this wasn't that long ago. I am not idealistic enough to believe that we'll fully eradicate racism but goddamn.
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prairiefire Thu, Sep 15, 2011 9:21:08pm |
re: #231 HappyWarrior
I do think there's definitely fear at play. Anyhow, my big history paper this semester is going to be on why late 19th century and early 20th century erupited in to violent Anti-Semitism during the times of the pogroms. Should make for some interesting research.
An interesting question is "why did the people of Poland, Austria, France give up their Jewish citizens so readily to the Nazis."
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HappyWarrior Thu, Sep 15, 2011 9:21:34pm |
re: #234 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
Yeah, scapegoating is a big one. Scapegoating is a major backdrop to Christianity, too. Are you looking at the Americas or Europe or both?
Just Russia as the course covers Russia from 1880-1930. The timing is perfect since 1881 is when the first truly violent pogroms occurred in the wake of the assassination of the Czar. Jews were scapegoated for it.Just terrible stuff. And yes in this case, the Eastern Orthodox church was very complicit in violence and hatred directed at the Jewish people.
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Dark_Falcon Thu, Sep 15, 2011 9:23:19pm |
re: #193 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
A brutally honest movie.
Very true. I've seen it and it is brutal without any graphic violence.
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Schadenfreude 'r' Us Thu, Sep 15, 2011 9:24:19pm |
re: #15 Atlas Fails
Girl scouts!?! The same girl scouts who came out as (gasp!) neutral on abortion and gay rights? They're not patriotic, they're communists, obviously. A better alternative would be the God-fearing American Heritage Girls.
Of course. My bad.
/ < ==you knew that, right?
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Thu, Sep 15, 2011 9:24:36pm |
re: #233 ggt
Some are taught. For other's it is a knee-jerk response. Fear is an inborn survival tool. It get's all fucked-up as we become adults.
I don't think so. Infants and toddlers don't act that way; they have to be taught about "difference" in the first place, by third parties. Doesn't take them long to learn, though.
It remains fucked up for them into adulthood because they are just lazy. Especially in our era of free libraries, community colleges and the internet. They resent all of those things.
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HappyWarrior Thu, Sep 15, 2011 9:25:58pm |
re: #236 prairiefire
An interesting question is "why did the people of Poland, Austria, France give up their Jewish citizens so readily to the Nazis."
That would be probably what I would have been looking for if I had taken the course on Nazi Germany. Went with the Russia one since I know the professor from taking his course on Modern Russia. I have written on the Holocaust before though. Wrote a paper about how the perception of hte Jewish people in WWII film has changed from the 1959 Diary of Anne Frank to films like Defiance. I for one love films that show the Jewish people fighting back with great courage against their oppressors. I always find myself as a non Jew asking myself if I would have had the courage to do the right thing (I mean I despise Anti-Semitism but it's hard to truly objectively answer that in the safety of a democracy and having never known any government even close to the Nazis ruling over me and my family.)
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Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, Sep 15, 2011 9:27:09pm |
re: #236 prairiefire
An interesting question is "why did the people of Poland, Austria, France give up their Jewish citizens so readily to the Nazis."
I think it goes back to what I've called "objectifying" people or groups of people. When a group or person is viewed as "different", they are not considered as part of the group. "The Group" are US.
We have rights, We are normal, We are . . .
They are not We. They are viewed as "less than" We. Once a person or a group is defined as "less than" they are objectified. Literally seen or felt to be objects.
It makes rationalizing brutality so much easier on the human psyche. No need to feel guilt or responsibility . . . .
For Jews in history it has been exacerbated because they choose to keep themselves separated by their faith -- so they can be rationalized to 'WANT" to be "less than" and therefore deserving of whatever fate the "WE Group" dispenses.
Ugly stuff.
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Schadenfreude 'r' Us Thu, Sep 15, 2011 9:30:28pm |
re: #243 ggt
Constantine's Sword by James Carroll has an answer to that question... but it's several hundred pages long. Objectifying doesn't begin to cover it, in his view.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, Sep 15, 2011 9:30:45pm |
re: #240 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
I don't think so. Infants and toddlers don't act that way; they have to be taught about "difference" in the first place, by third parties. Doesn't take them long to learn, though.
It remains fucked up for them into adulthood because they are just lazy. Especially in our era of free libraries, community colleges and the internet. They resent all of those things.
Ever seen a baby or toddler shy away from a person wearing glasses?
My son wouldn't go near my husband when he first started wearing glasses. He was afraid because he had never seen glasses. It was different from what he was used to.
Same happens when a child brought up in a "white only" environment sees a black person for the first time. They are leery --what is this?
How well the baby/child deals with the fear is a combination of their disposition and how the adults handle the situation.
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laZardo Thu, Sep 15, 2011 9:31:00pm |
re: #243 ggt
It's one of humanity's base instincts. The fear of the outsider dating back to the first huddled "tribes." It may have worked then, against vicious animals and other tribes with spears and torches.
Religion gave us an excuse to "civilize" it.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, Sep 15, 2011 9:32:14pm |
re: #244 C1nnabar
Constantine's Sword by James Carroll has an answer to that question... but it's several hundred pages long. Objectifying doesn't begin to cover it, in his view.
and it's not on audio --yet.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, Sep 15, 2011 9:32:40pm |
Overnight thread and my cue to get some sleep.
Have a great morning all!
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Gretchen G.Tiger Thu, Sep 15, 2011 9:33:47pm |
re: #246 laZardo
It's one of humanity's base instincts. The fear of the outsider dating back to the first huddled "tribes." It may have worked then, against vicious animals and other tribes with spears and torches.
Religion gave us an excuse to "civilize" it.
Not just religion --society --money --power . . . .
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Alexzander Thu, Sep 15, 2011 9:33:48pm |
re: #221 SanFranciscoZionist
Yeah, I'm doing courses toward an MFT. My new dream for what I want to be when I grow up is to have a private counseling practice.
My special interests right now are hoarding behavior, and teenagers with substance abuse problems, but we shall see...
Awesome.
I am trying to decide what my next move will be. I nearly entered a couple of masters in counselling psychology programs last fall, and I am currently deciding whether I will apply again.
My particular interests are in depression, anxiety, and self-harm.
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Dark_Falcon Thu, Sep 15, 2011 9:36:08pm |
re: #244 C1nnabar
Constantine's Sword by James Carroll has an answer to that question... but it's several hundred pages long. Objectifying doesn't begin to cover it, in his view.
I read the reviews of that book and was not impressed. Even Gary Willis found reason to go after Carroll. Christianity had a problem dealing with "the Other", especially Jews, but Carroll seemed to think that the solution was to do away with any type of exclusion at all. And that is not practical. It is entirely reasonable for believers of a religion to exclude non-believers from key decisions about what they believe. What they may not do is unjustly attack those who do not believe ("unjustly is a phrase that can be abused and often is, but it is needed as a qualifier).
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TheSwedish Thu, Sep 15, 2011 9:47:19pm |
Mr. Johnson,
As a disabled (though not deaf) longtime reader, I was heartened to see you & your industrious commenters reach out so respectfully with the link to "alldeaf" (a site that, admittedly, I had not heard of until now but will bookmark). Oftentimes in the blogosphere, the word "retard" is thrown around casually, but you & the "lizards," with this no-nonsense post refreshingly free of "able-ist" language, treated the "alldeaf" crew as equal partners in the search for truth.
A blog post is, on the surface, a small thing, but the little touches of decency get noticed. Keep writing, all of you. I will keep reading.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Thu, Sep 15, 2011 9:49:04pm |
re: #237 HappyWarrior
Just Russia as the course covers Russia from 1880-1930. The timing is perfect since 1881 is when the first truly violent pogroms occurred in the wake of the assassination of the Czar. Jews were scapegoated for it.Just terrible stuff. And yes in this case, the Eastern Orthodox church was very complicit in violence and hatred directed at the Jewish people.
Ah. Sounds like a great course. I hope you keep us posted on the paper.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Thu, Sep 15, 2011 9:52:09pm |
re: #245 ggt
Same happens when a child brought up in a "white only" environment sees a black person for the first time. They are leery --what is this?
It's learned behavior, not innate, or natural. It's the norm, but it's not normal. Abnormal, lazy people enforce it to get special, unearned perks for themselves. We don't teach that to our children.
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boxhead Thu, Sep 15, 2011 11:32:05pm |
The Repugs are disgusting in their hate. Hate so deep it has permeating their souls, or what black object serving as such. The complete desire for Obama to be proven as hating USA has put them into a state I fear that only vast quantities of medication will help. Truly a miserable bunch.
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(I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Fri, Sep 16, 2011 2:00:07am |
re: #240 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
I don't think so. Infants and toddlers don't act that way; they have to be taught about "difference" in the first place, by third parties.
Not true. They "learn" about it on their own simply by being more and more familiar with the things and especially people they are around and comfortable with through continued exposure. "Toddler shyness" is a really common phenomenon, and it is most definitively not "taught".
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Eventual Carrion Fri, Sep 16, 2011 5:43:45am |
re: #33 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
And how many times have you properly folded an American flag according to the official rules?
I did it way back in boy scouts. I am not sure if it was all legal though since the boy scouts don't like pack leaders that sleep with men, and my pack leader slept with men. I know this because her son was in the pack too.
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Eventual Carrion Fri, Sep 16, 2011 5:47:49am |
re: #37 Varek Raith
BREAKING: U.S. Supreme Court Grants Stay of Execution To Duane Edward Buck
Ahh, the ever popular expert witness. Know what you call a person that graduated dead last in their class in medical school?
Doctor.
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Decatur Deb Fri, Sep 16, 2011 6:00:26am |
re: #254 OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin
It's learned behavior, not innate, or natural. It's the norm, but it's not normal. Abnormal, lazy people enforce it to get special, unearned perks for themselves. We don't teach that to our children.
re: #256 000G
Not true. They "learn" about it on their own simply by being more and more familiar with the things and especially people they are around and comfortable with through continued exposure. "Toddler shyness" is a really common phenomenon, and it is most definitively not "taught".
Really don't have a hard position on this question, though I suspect it's a complex interplay that produces the various kinds of racist behavior we see. Let's go to the scientists for this one. (And they will have a bit of a time sorting themselves from their subject matter.)
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Mickey Blumental Fri, Sep 16, 2011 6:53:56am |
Please, it's SO obvious that what she's really saying is "lets eat cute puppies for dinner tonight, to celebrate 911."
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(I Stand By What I Said Whatever It Was) Fri, Sep 16, 2011 7:30:10am |
re: #259 Decatur Deb
Let me add that "natural" does not neccessarily translate into "good" or even just "desireable". For instance, it is natural that many children will bite others (see [Link: ceep.crc.uiuc.edu...] on this). If that kind of behavior persists, they must be taught to let go of it.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Sat, Sep 17, 2011 9:13:59am |
re: #256 000G
"Toddler shyness" is far broader than "race" and doesn't explain why some toddlers may be shy -- if that's even the proper term -- around some "races", but not others. White children afraid of Black children wasn't my example, btw. I think it was a bad one, and would not have used it.
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