Clarisas acting and that rust belt industrial location really worked. Love the old patched up clown shoes. Couple of interesting focus pulls too.

The other killer joke

Youtube Video

Youtube Video

I never understood the Red Balloon, even as a child.

re: #4 ggt

I never understood the Red Balloon, even as a child.

Youtube Video

Ok, I stopped it at the clown. Creeped me out.

watch those yellow eyelid marks!

Do not go for these “annonymous ominous looming threat” films. Somebody tell me how it ends…

Morning limited Honcos.

we got two polo teams

re: #8 ralphieboy

Do not go for these “annonymous ominous looming threat” films. Somebody tell me how it ends…

Ponies

re: #10 ralphieboy

we got two polo teams

I’m not being the horse this time.

water polo?

Morning, all

Did you see the beebees?

They are smiling!

Frank Rocks:

You can’t write a chord ugly enough to say what you want sometimes, so you have to rely on a giraffe filled with whipped cream

We’ll have to ask Floral about this …

I once had a rose named after me and I was very flattered. But I was not pleased to read the description in the catalogue: no good in a bed, but fine up against a wall.
Eleanor Roosevelt

Heh.

The faceless threat that still hounds us through the industrial wasteland of America: privatized Social Security. Sees that the GOP conadidates still cling to this notion, despite the debacle under Bush. newsmax.com

twelve users online! Volleyball!!!

re: #19 ralphieboy

twelve users online! Volleyball!!!

IF we play beach volleyball we could have 3 games going at once.

re: #18 ralphieboy

The faceless threat that still hounds us through the industrial wasteland of America: privatized Social Security. Sees that the GOP conadidates still cling to this notion, despite the debacle under Bush. [Link: www.newsmax.com…]

Of course SS is small potatoes. Medicare and Medicaid are the real cost drivers in the future. That is where our efforts should be focused.

Also,

Good Morning Honcos!

re: #21 rwdflynavy

Of course SS is small potatoes. Medicare and Medicaid are the real cost drivers in the future. That is where our efforts should be focused.

Also,

Good Morning Honcos!

I thought we were now: skanks?

Honco Skanks!

re: #21 rwdflynavy

Of course SS is small potatoes. Medicare and Medicaid are the real cost drivers in the future. That is where our efforts should be focused.

Efforts to cut costs or efforts to abolish/privatize?

re: #22 ggt

I thought we were now: skanks?

Honco Skanks!

Why am I always the last to hear about these things?!?!
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re: #23 ralphieboy

Efforts to cut costs or efforts to abolish/privatize?

Cut costs/modify. I don’t think it should be abolished or privatized.

Happy Gilmore’s grandma dies.:(
news.yahoo.com

I’m looking for a source for high quality vitamins and supplements.

Can anyone here offer up some suggestions?

re: #27 researchok

I’m looking for a source for high quality vitamins and supplements.

Can anyone here offer up some suggestions?

I’ve always been happy with Country Life.. I get them at the local health food store.

This is kinda freakin’ me out.

It’s r/x drug deaths —not illegal drugs.

I don’t know if they are cross-referencing illegal drug crime related deaths. But still, it’s scary. Chemists start messing with the chemical structure of morphine and making better and stronger pain meds —has it’s consequences.

re: #27 researchok

I’m looking for a source for high quality vitamins and supplements.

Can anyone here offer up some suggestions?

Food chart.
healthalternatives2000.com

re: #28 ggt

I’ve always been happy with Country Life.. I get them at the local health food store.

Thanks. I like the gluten free aspect (trying to head off any blood sugar problems in advance!).

There seems to be a wide variety of products out there, some good some not so good.

Have you heard anything about FoodScience?

re: #30 Cannadian Club Akbar

Food chart.
[Link: www.healthalternatives2000.com…]

That’s a keeper.

Thanks.

Also, vitamin/dosage recommendations are all over the map. Any reliable sources you guys are aware of?

re: #31 researchok

Thanks. I like the gluten free aspect (trying to head off any blood sugar problems in advance!).

There seems to be a wide variety of products out there, some good some not so good.

Have you heard anything about FoodScience?

No never. I knew someone that worked with Country Life and thought they were reputable people—unlike some other’s he knew.

It is very difficult because there is little regulation. (there is a bill, IIRC, that they are trying to get thru Congress, but it is frought with political implications).

Make sure any herbals you get are “standardized”. Meaning you get the equal parts of the same part of the plant in each capsule. You don’t want stems and seeds in one and leaf in another .. .

I take the Country Life Multi-for Women because I like the additional herbals in it. I’m not sure that the vitamin part is any different than what you’d get at Walgreen’s. Walgreen’s is sure cheaper.

re: #32 researchok

That’s a keeper.

Thanks.

Also, vitamin/dosage recommendations are all over the map. Any reliable sources you guys are aware of?

Links in here.
fnic.nal.usda.gov

re: #33 ggt

No never. I knew someone that worked with Country Life and thought they were reputable people—unlike some other’s he knew.

It is very difficult because there is little regulation. (there is a bill, IIRC, that they are trying to get thru Congress, but it is frought with political implications).

Make sure any herbals you get are “standardized”. Meaning you get the equal parts of the same part of the plant in each capsule. You don’t want stems and seeds in one and leaf in another .. .

I take the Country Life Multi-for Women because I like the additional herbals in it. I’m not sure that the vitamin part is any different than what you’d get at Walgreen’s. Walgreen’s is sure cheaper.

The vitamin/supplement business is one industry is one that would benefit from more regulation.

A little bit of research and you realize it is a cross between caveat emptor and the Wild West.

re: #32 researchok

That’s a keeper.

Thanks.

Also, vitamin/dosage recommendations are all over the map. Any reliable sources you guys are aware of?

I did a big study of that about 15 years ago. There is a big differene between the USRDA and what is Optimal for each individual. I think the USRDA is 500 mg of Vit C and what that is is the minimum to prevent scurvy. I smoke and can tolerate up to 4000 mg a day.

Best to do your own research—starting with the USRDA and go from there. You can’t OD on the water soluable vitamins, so C, B and A in the form of beta-carotene. There is a lot to learn.

I’ve always found this book (available at most health food stores) very helpful.

I’m going to order the book. Clearly, I havea lot to learn on the subject.

Now, how do you reliably determine what is optimal dosage for oneself?

re: #35 researchok

As long as shit is called “natural” there are no regulations (that I know of, I could be wrong). Ever notice when a “natural weight loss” pill comes around, the commercials say “when taken with a proper diet and exercise program”? Really? I hate those people. And I know about phen-phen and so on, which is just speed.

re: #38 Cannadian Club Akbar

As long as shit is called “natural” there are no regulations (that I know of, I could be wrong). Ever notice when a “natural weight loss” pill comes around, the commercials say “when taken with a proper diet and exercise program”? Really? I hate those people. And I know about phen-phen and so on, which is just speed.

I hear that.

There is no reason the supplement industry should remain unregulated.

At the very lest, there ought to be minium standards of quality.

re: #35 researchok

The vitamin/supplement business is one industry is one that would benefit from more regulation.

A little bit of research and you realize it is a cross between caveat emptor and the Wild West.

There are a lot of quack ideas out that that make a lot of sense until you do your own research. And everybody’s body is different.

I find I need LOTS of B-complex at certain times of the month and other’s not so much. I don’t notice much of a difference with other vitamins on a day-to-day basis. What I notice is that I either get sick or I don’t.

As usual, stay away from carbs, & soda. There are literally 2 or 3 aisles at every grocery store that are nothing but carbs! I don’t even go down them. Pay for GOOD BREAD. Pay for GOOD EGGS. What you save by not walking down the carb aisles more than makes-up for the extra you pay for better products. Buy Organic produce! The pesticide thing is real.

re: #37 researchok

I’m going to order the book. Clearly, I havea lot to learn on the subject.

Now, how do you reliably determine what is optimal dosage for oneself?

when your pets start giving you financial and legal advice, take ten milligrams less!!
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re: #37 researchok

I’m going to order the book. Clearly, I havea lot to learn on the subject.

Now, how do you reliably determine what is optimal dosage for oneself?

I can tell when I’m lacking in a nutrient just by the way I feel. Also, ever notice when your body is lacking a vitamin, when you eat/drink something with that vitamin, it taste really good? Start a diary.

re: #37 researchok

I’m going to order the book. Clearly, I have a lot to learn on the subject.

Now, how do you reliably determine what is optimal dosage for oneself?

research, research, research.

I made a couple of spreadsheets years ago that helped me along the learning curve. It was necessary just to keep dosages straight. Some products are marketed in mgs, some in i.u.’s (international units). I had to figure the equivalent to keep myself from going crazy.

Don’t be afraid to ask the crazy people at the health food store for info. Take what you like and leave the rest. Ask everyone—doctors, nurses …pharmacists are a great resource.

re: #40 ggt

There are a lot of quack ideas out that that make a lot of sense until you do your own research. And everybody’s body is different.

I find I need LOTS of B-complex at certain times of the month and other’s not so much. I don’t notice much of a difference with other vitamins on a day-to-day basis. What I notice is that I either get sick or I don’t.

As usual, stay away from carbs, & soda. There are literally 2 or 3 aisles at every grocery store that are nothing but carbs! I don’t even go down them. Pay for GOOD BREAD. Pay for GOOD EGGS. What you save by not walking down the carb aisles more than makes-up for the extra you pay for better products. Buy Organic produce! The pesticide thing is real.

I have cut out soda entirely (fruit juices as well). Now, I drink water or green tea drinks exclusively.

My carb consumption has gone down dramatically but it is disconcerting to find out just how many ‘hidden carbs’ are out there.

I have lost weight but as of late I seem to have plateaued. More exercise in my future…!

re: #42 Cannadian Club Akbar

I can tell when I’m lacking in a nutrient just by the way I feel. Also, ever notice when your body is lacking a vitamin, when you eat/drink something with that vitamin, it taste really good? Start a diary.

That’s a damn good, practical idea.

What supplements are you taking?

Also ResearchOK, you really, really need to read labels for foods bought off the shelf. And I’m sure most produce sections already have nutrients listed.

re: #43 ggt

research, research, research.

I made a couple of spreadsheets years ago that helped me along the learning curve. It was necessary just to keep dosages straight. Some products are marketed in mgs, some in i.u.’s (international units). I had to figure the equivalent to keep myself from going crazy.

Don’t be afraid to ask the crazy people at the health food store for info. Take what you like and leave the rest. Ask everyone—doctors, nurses …pharmacists are a great resource.

What supplements are you on?

re: #46 Cannadian Club Akbar

Also ResearchOK, you really, really need to read labels for foods bought off the shelf. And I’m sure most produce sections already have nutrients listed.

Yeah, I’m on the less processed, the better plan.

re: #42 Cannadian Club Akbar

I can tell when I’m lacking in a nutrient just by the way I feel. Also, ever notice when your body is lacking a vitamin, when you eat/drink something with that vitamin, it taste really good? Start a diary.

So true, pay attention to your body.

It will crave what it really needs.

Another tool is HALT (STB)—Hungry, Angry, Lonely, Tired. (I add Sick, Thirsty and Board)

When you are feeling hungry, lousy or depressed, ask your self if you are any of the above. Often we think we are hungry and craving something when really we are one of the other categories. People overeat and eat the wrong things because of emotional reasons. Recognizing your triggers can be really helpful in maintaining health. Sometimes a bottle of water can do a world of good—get rid of a headache, perk me up, etc.

re: #39 researchok

I hear that.

There is no reason the supplement industry should remain unregulated.

At the very lest, there ought to be minium standards of quality.

That would destroy most of the supplement market, because they haven’t undergone any testing that shows that they have beneficial effects. Most of them don’t, for the ordinary person.

The funny part is my wife, a scientist and soon-to-be doctor, who knows that there has been no clinical trial that’s show Airborne to be effective— still uses it.

re: #47 researchok

What supplements are you on?

The multi-vitamin I mentioned above (with iron), and xtra V-C. A b-complex certain times of the month. oh, and a fish oil pill.

re: #49 ggt

So true, pay attention to your body.

It will crave what it really needs.

Another tool is HALT (STB)—Hungry, Angry, Lonely, Tired. (I add Sick, Thirsty and Board)

When you are feeling hungry, lousy or depressed, ask your self if you are any of the above. Often we think we are hungry and craving something when really we are one of the other categories. People overeat and eat the wrong things because of emotional reasons. Recognizing your triggers can be really helpful in maintaining health. Sometimes a bottle of water can do a world of good—get rid of a headache, perk me up, etc.

I just favorited this comment.

Excellent advice.

re: #50 Obdicut

That would destroy most of the supplement market, because they haven’t undergone any testing that shows that they have beneficial effects. Most of them don’t, for the ordinary person.

The funny part is my wife, a scientist and soon-to-be doctor, who knows that there has been no clinical trial that’s show Airborne to be effective— still uses it.

Homeopathic is the biggest scam out there, IMHO.

Still, there is the placebo effect —I guess it is worth the money if it works for people. …

re: #49 ggt

I’m on a 1400 calorie a day diet at the moment, and it’s amazing how quickly my body has adjusted to it and how quickly I’m satiated by a small meal. But you’re absolutely right that when I’m upset, I have the urge for food— which is why it’s good to keep celery around. Crunching that stuff up is very therapeutic.

Oh, and alcohol in any significant amount will really mess with your hunger feelings. As well as being highly calorific on its own.

re: #52 researchok

I just favorited this comment.

Excellent advice.

Might help if I spelled everything correctly. Bored, not board.

re: #50 Obdicut

That would destroy most of the supplement market, because they haven’t undergone any testing that shows that they have beneficial effects. Most of them don’t, for the ordinary person.

The funny part is my wife, a scientist and soon-to-be doctor, who knows that there has been no clinical trial that’s show Airborne to be effective— still uses it.

I absolutely agree.

What little research I’ve done only highlighted the disparity in quality of products out there.

It really is snake oil v.2.0 out there in many instances.

re: #45 researchok

That’s a damn good, practical idea.

What supplements are you taking?

I don’t take any. I just know about stuff. The more you read, the more you’ll remember. Slice of cheese, 6 to 9 grams of fat. 4 OZ. hamburger, 21 grams of fat and so on. And remember, a salad does you no good when you put 4 oz or so of Ranch dressing on it (28 grams of fat), plus cheese, plus flavored croutons, plus meat, yada, yada….and then there’s salt content….

Also when reading labels, look at the serving size in regards to salt, sugar, fat, etc. Some companies dropped their serving sizes to make products more attractive.

re: #57 Cannadian Club Akbar

I don’t take any. I just know about stuff. The more you read, the more you’ll remember. Slice of cheese, 6 to 9 grams of fat. 4 OZ. hamburger, 21 grams of fat and so on. And remember, a salad does you no good when you put 4 oz or so of Ranch dressing on it (28 grams of fat), plus cheese, plus flavored croutons, plus meat, yada, yada…and then there’s salt content…

Salad that is nothing but iceberg lettuce is a waste of time.

I’ve had some of the best complements on chopped salads containing 5 or 6 different types of leaves. I go with the Jane Brody school of cooking —make it pretty. Dark leaves, light leaves, red and purple leaves —some orange from carrots —complete the color wheel and you probably have a good salad. two tsp of a good oil and vinegar dressing and mmmmmmm.

re: #57 Cannadian Club Akbar

Yep. And chicken (white meat) and lean pork are so, so much less calorific than fatty beef or the fattier portions of pork. You can eat much more chicken than you can beef and get the same calories out of it, especially if you discard the yummy skin.

Onions are one of my main staples; they take flavor really well, so cooking them in a bit of beef broth gives them a very beefy flavor, but they’re quite low on calories, high in fiber, and full of all sorts of other great vitamins.

For anyone trying to diet, I highly suggest lots of beef-broth-and-onions soup. It’s a great replacement for burgers, steaks, sausages, etc.

Oh and brush your teeth and use mouthwash a lot. I’m serious— I think sometimes we eat just to try to get whatever musty taste in our mouth out of it.

re: #54 Obdicut

I’m on a 1400 calorie a day diet at the moment, and it’s amazing how quickly my body has adjusted to it and how quickly I’m satiated by a small meal. But you’re absolutely right that when I’m upset, I have the urge for food— which is why it’s good to keep celery around. Crunching that stuff up is very therapeutic.

Oh, and alcohol in any significant amount will really mess with your hunger feelings. As well as being highly calorific on its own.

I’m on the rabbit plan, somewhat. At least one meal a day where I consume an entire romaine lettuce.

I’m trying to keep to a 1700-1800 calorie diet, with a 90 mins a day of moderate exercise. I walk with 5 lb ankle weights.

Of course, never ending work as of late makes that more of an effort than it ought to be.

re: #59 ggt

With any leafy veggie, go dark green. Iceberg actually is high in Vitamin K, though. And FWIW, to much dark leafy greens can give you kidney stones.:)

re: #62 Cannadian Club Akbar

With any leafy veggie, go dark green. Iceberg actually is high in Vitamin K, though. And FWIW, to much dark leafy greens can give you kidney stones.:)

Now you tell me.
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re: #61 researchok

I’m on the rabbit plan, somewhat. At least one meal a day where I consume an entire romaine lettuce.

I’m trying to keep to a 1700-1800 calorie diet, with a 90 mins a day of moderate exercise. I walk with 5 lb ankle weights.

Of course, never ending work as of late makes that more of an effort than it ought to be.

I know there are 100000000000 books about diets out there, but go to the library and check out “The Zone”. That diet, you eat 5-6 times a day, smaller portions, but the one I believe in if I ever decide to diet.

re: #62 Cannadian Club Akbar

I love the bitter greens, myself. Mustard greens, spinach, broccoli rabe, arugala, dandelion, escarole. But I have a bitter tooth to compare to most people’s sweet tooth.

re: #62 Cannadian Club Akbar

With any leafy veggie, go dark green. Iceberg actually is high in Vitamin K, though. And FWIW, to much dark leafy greens can give you kidney stones.:)

Everything in moderation.

a bit of Kale, spinach and fresh garlic in every salad is my rule of thumb.

There was a time when I took a clove of garlic every day as if it were a capsule. I swear it helped me stay healthy one winter —hubby made me stop because I started smelling like an (immigrant). He didn’t use such nice words.

I’m big on the neti-pot also. I think using it keeps a lot of toxins out of the lungs and blood stream. And Obdi is right about dental/mouth health —brush your tongue!

re: #65 Obdicut

I love the bitter greens, myself. Mustard greens, spinach, broccoli rabe, arugala, dandelion, escarole. But I have a bitter tooth to compare to most people’s sweet tooth.

I’ve been known to eat half a bag of baby spinach while I’m preparing the salad.

re: #65 Obdicut

I love the bitter greens, myself. Mustard greens, spinach, broccoli rabe, arugala, dandelion, escarole. But I have a bitter tooth to compare to most people’s sweet tooth.

The bitterness can be offset with a dressing made with balsamic vinegar, sweet and low, a little olive oil. I don’t have a recipe in front of me. But I like bitter as well.

re: #64 Cannadian Club Akbar

I know there are 100000000000 books about diets out there, but go to the library and check out “The Zone”. That diet, you eat 5-6 times a day, smaller portions, but the one I believe in if I ever decide to diet.

I have his follow up book, the Omega Zone.

Skimmed through it, need to read it.

I take fish oil pills daily. Can’t do the krill oil pills, seafood allergy.

re: #64 Cannadian Club Akbar

I know there are 100000000000 books about diets out there, but go to the library and check out “The Zone”. That diet, you eat 5-6 times a day, smaller portions, but the one I believe in if I ever decide to diet.

I’ve seen good results from The Zone —kinda a modified Atkins Diet. I learned a lot from the Atkins book. Wouldn’t do the “pure” version of the diet, tho.

re: #69 researchok

I have his follow up book, the Omega Zone.

Skimmed through it, need to read it.

I take fish oil pills daily. Can’t do the krill oil pills, seafood allergy.

There are alternatives—Black Current Seed oil, I think is one.

re: #65 Obdicut

I love the bitter greens, myself. Mustard greens, spinach, broccoli rabe, arugala, dandelion, escarole. But I have a bitter tooth to compare to most people’s sweet tooth.

The south would be a food paradise for you.

Bitter greens everywhere.

re: #71 ggt

There are alternatives—Black Current Seed oil, I think is one.

I haven’t even heard of that!

re: #68 Cannadian Club Akbar

The bitterness can be offset with a dressing made with balsamic vinegar, sweet and low, a little olive oil. I don’t have a recipe in front of me. But I like bitter as well.

Have you seen this line? The Fig and Walnut is wonderful and you only need a tsp or so.

re: #70 ggt

I’ve seen good results from The Zone —kinda a modified Atkins Diet. I learned a lot from the Atkins book. Wouldn’t do the “pure” version of the diet, tho.

Why not?

re: #69 researchok

I have his follow up book, the Omega Zone.

Skimmed through it, need to read it.

I take fish oil pills daily. Can’t do the krill oil pills, seafood allergy.

Just make sure with fish oil, you’re getting Omega 3 fatty acids, not Omega 6 (bad). Many people think eating Salmon is good, and it is, but farm raised salmon is high in Omega 6. That’s why it’s $5 lb. vs. $13 lb (wild, line caught)

re: #72 researchok

California was great for it too, especially since you had the combination of the Southern, Italian, and Chinese traditions of bitter greens.

Here in NYC they’re not quite as great, but you do get ramps during season, which are awesome if trendy.

re: #75 researchok

Why not?

I don’t eat meat. It would be very difficult and IMHO dangerous to try to do the Atkins as a vegetarian. If you pay the Atkins people a lot of money, they will give you the veggie version of their diet and help you monitor your health.

re: #75 researchok

Why not?

Atkins is no sugar, carbs, etc. But meat, meat, meat. But people abuse that by eating a pound of bacon with a 6 egg omelet. Not exactly what Atkins was talking about.

re: #77 Obdicut

California was great for it too, especially since you had the combination of the Southern, Italian, and Chinese traditions of bitter greens.

Here in NYC they’re not quite as great, but you do get ramps during season, which are awesome if trendy.

Has your wife gone through the nutrition portion of her medical schooling yet? If so, what did she come home with that piqued your interest?

All this healthy food talk, NOW I have a craving for a Big Mac and a supersized fries! !!

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re: #81 sattv4u2

All this healthy food talk, NOW I have a craving for a Big Mac and a supersized fries! !!

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Fries are a health food when dipped into a chocolate milkshake. Mmmmmm…
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re: #73 researchok

I haven’t even heard of that!

This is really challenging my memory. There are female specific reasons for some diet changes —things that can affect hormones balances. I think that is where I heard about the ——oh, it was an alternative to Evening Primrose—which is an estrogen producer (precurser whatever).

never mind.

re: #79 Cannadian Club Akbar

You get ketoacidosis, too, from the Atkins diet, which isn’t good for you, and a lot of the weight loss is dehydration from it.

Michael Pollan’s “In Defense of Food” is a pretty good diet guide that isn’t a diet guide.

re: #81 sattv4u2

All this healthy food talk, NOW I have a craving for a Big Mac and a supersized fries! !!

//

I gave all that up a few months ago. I’m really trying to get healthy.

My burger quotient is one per week.

Truth is, I do feel better.

re: #83 ggt

This is really challenging my memory. There are female specific reasons for some diet changes —things that can affect hormones balances. I think that is where I heard about the —-oh, it was an alternative to Evening Primrose—which is an estrogen producer (precurser whatever).

never mind.

LOL

re: #82 Cannadian Club Akbar

Fries are a health food when dipped into a chocolate milkshake. Mmmm…
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Fries are better than starving.

Truth be told, I allow myself 3 or 4 fries and I leave the rest on my plate. Unless they are sweet potato fries. Then I’m just screwed.

re: #85 researchok

I gave all that up a few months ago. I’m really trying to get healthy.

My burger quotient is one per week.

Truth is, I do feel better.

With a burger, skip the mayo and load the veggies. Avocado is a great addition, if you like it. And have fries, just bake them. And also remember, ketchup is just sugar.

re: #88 Cannadian Club Akbar

With a burger, skip the mayo and load the veggies. Avocado is a great addition, if you like it. And have fries, just bake them. And also remember, ketchup is just sugar.

I do that. And lately, I give up the bun too.

My condiments now are mustard and dill relish.

I also learned a lot from Jane Brody’s Good Food Book.

Great Ratatouille recipe.

re: #89 researchok

I do that. And lately, I give up the bun too.

My condiments now are mustard and dill relish.

White anything (buns, breads, pasta) aren’t as good for you as a wheat product. Having said that, if you offer me wheat anything, there will be a fight.:)

re: #88 Cannadian Club Akbar

A butter is the devil. Use a light misting of oil to cook things in instead of butter. My wife just bought me a hand-pumped mister (no pun intended) and I freaking love it.

And use the fat-free half-and-half for your coffee instead the real stuff.

And avoid bread. That part Atkins had right. Pollan goes into great detail about why bread usually represents about the worst possible approach to calories and food.

re: #92 Obdicut

A butter is the devil. Use a light misting of oil to cook things in instead of butter. My wife just bought me a hand-pumped mister (no pun intended) and I freaking love it.

And use the fat-free half-and-half for your coffee instead the real stuff.

And avoid bread. That part Atkins had right. Pollan goes into great detail about why bread usually represents about the worst possible approach to calories and food.

I think it is better to get your carbs from good whole-grain bakery bread than from chips or fritos—tho.

Bread can be good food. Just no more than a slice a day.

Hubby tries to get all the meat from a local butcher — there always seems to be one in every community, instead of the grocery store.

re: #85 researchok

I gave all that up a few months ago. I’m really trying to get healthy.

My burger quotient is one per week.

Truth is, I do feel better.

That’s the ‘counter-placebo effect’, the conviction that it’s good for you if it hurts, deprives, or tastes like shit.

If you want to feel like a teenager, eat like a teenager.

re: #92 Obdicut

See, certain things I won’t make without butter (screw you margarine!!) But that’s a Southern thing I guess. (I actually made a Butter Pie in cooking class in High Skool!!)

re: #95 Cannadian Club Akbar

See, certain things I won’t make without butter (screw you margarine!!) But that’s a Southern thing I guess. (I actually made a Butter Pie in cooking class in High Skool!!)

I think butter is better, health wise, than margarine anyway.

We know what is in Butter!

re: #95 Cannadian Club Akbar

Yeah, I’m lucky in that my mom tended more towards the Italian than the French cooking tradition, and so it’s olive oil— still calorific, but better for you and you need less of it— rather than butter that is my staple for cooking things in.

re: #93 ggt

I think it is better to get your carbs from good whole-grain bakery bread than from chips or fritos—tho.

Bread can be good food. Just no more than a slice a day.

Hubby tries to get all the meat from a local butcher — there always seems to be one in every community, instead of the grocery store.

I switched from bread to Kashi heart to heart whole grain crackers.

I miss bread, but I’ll live.

re: #97 Obdicut

Yeah, I’m lucky in that my mom tended more towards the Italian than the French cooking tradition, and so it’s olive oil— still calorific, but better for you and you need less of it— rather than butter that is my staple for cooking things in.

Do you eat pasta?

re: #96 ggt

I think butter is better, health wise, than margarine anyway.

We know what is in Butter!

True. Margarine is just oil, as is mayo. But mayo also has egg yolks.

re: #94 Decatur Deb

That’s the ‘counter-placebo effect’, the conviction that it’s good for you if it hurts, deprives, or tastes like shit.

If you want to feel like a teenager, eat like a teenager.

Is a burger really all that bad. McDonald’s-yes. But good lean beef from a local butcher? without a bun???

Red meat has a lot of good stuff in it.

re: #94 Decatur Deb

That’s the ‘counter-placebo effect’, the conviction that it’s good for you if it hurts, deprives, or tastes like shit.

If you want to feel like a teenager, eat like a teenager.

Man, I wish that were true!

re: #100 Cannadian Club Akbar

True. Margarine is just oil, as is mayo. But mayo also has egg yolks.

hydrogenated, hyphenated and astroturfed!

It’s the processing that makes it scary to me.

re: #99 researchok

Do you eat pasta?

Not with any frequency. Most pasta dished are still delicious if you remove the pasta and up the veggie content. Pasta is like bread, and pretty damn calorific.

I also find that pasta makes me hungrier— it’s a side effect of those easily-absorbed calories from the refined flour.

So, for my Pasta Primavera these days, I leave out the pasta entirely, and add onions to it in long strips, cooked not as much as the other vegetables to give them that textural resistance that’s similar to al dente pasta.

re: #101 ggt

Is a burger really all that bad. McDonald’s-yes. But good lean beef from a local butcher? without a bun???

Red meat has a lot of good stuff in it.

A McDonald’s burger without cheese isn’t that bad for you in a pinch. Their burgers are only 1.6 OZ. And get a side of apples. And don’t let the fruit juice fool you, it’s just sugar.

re: #94 Decatur Deb

That’s the ‘counter-placebo effect’, the conviction that it’s good for you if it hurts, deprives, or tastes like shit.

If you want to feel like a teenager, eat like a teenager.

Yeah, I’m not really into deprivation. I’m not good at it.

I don’t follow a caloric restriction diet or really any diet (which has it’s downsides). I eat when I am hungry and stay away from the bad stuff.

I also eat to live, not the other way around. So a slice of cheese and a tomato or a bowl of flax cereal are fine with me.

re: #103 ggt

hydrogenated, hyphenated and astroturfed!

It’s the processing that makes it scary to me.

Like I said, I’m trying to eat much less processed foods.

It really does make a difference.

re: #102 researchok

Man, I wish that were true!

I almost got away with that, until very recently. Now I actually have to think a little about intake. At 67, I think my warranty has long expired.

re: #107 researchok

Like I said, I’m trying to eat much less processed foods.

It really does make a difference.

Jack Lalane never ate processed food. Good rule.

re: #101 ggt

Is a burger really all that bad. McDonald’s-yes. But good lean beef from a local butcher? without a bun???

Red meat has a lot of good stuff in it.

I grind my own meat. Beef, well-stripped of fat, is still pretty calorific but it’s so flavorful that that’s really okay.

I do highly suggest grinding your own meat, since it cuts the risk of bacterial contamination down by a factor of about a hundred.

And it tastes better. Use a strip of bacon per pound of well-cleaned beef to restore the fat, and you’ll have a damn delicious burger.

re: #104 Obdicut

Not with any frequency. Most pasta dished are still delicious if you remove the pasta and up the veggie content. Pasta is like bread, and pretty damn calorific.

I also find that pasta makes me hungrier— it’s a side effect of those easily-absorbed calories from the refined flour.

So, for my Pasta Primavera these days, I leave out the pasta entirely, and add onions to it in long strips, cooked not as much as the other vegetables to give them that textural resistance that’s similar to al dente pasta.

pasta de olio with wilted spinach and roasted garlic.

mmmmmmmm

re: #110 Obdicut

I grind my own meat. Beef, well-stripped of fat, is still pretty calorific but it’s so flavorful that that’s really okay.

I do highly suggest grinding your own meat, since it cuts the risk of bacterial contamination down by a factor of about a hundred.

And it tastes better. Use a strip of bacon per pound of well-cleaned beef to restore the fat, and you’ll have a damn delicious burger.

THAT sounds like work!

My dogs would like to live in your house.

re: #105 Cannadian Club Akbar

Yeah, one of the worst mistakes ‘health nuts’ make is drinking tons of fruit shakes and smoothies, as though somehow fructose doesn’t count. It’s another good point Pollan makes in his book; the more effort that’s gone in to refining a food— like juicing it— the higher its calorific profile will be and the less nutritive it’ll be.

re: #108 Decatur Deb

I almost got away with that, until very recently. Now I actually have to think a little about intake. At 67, I think my warranty has long expired.

Plenty of life lest in those old bones, I predict!

You come across as 20 years younger

re: #112 ggt

THAT sounds like work!

My dogs would like to live in your house.

I’m a workaholic in pretty much every aspect of my life. If it’s worth doing it’s worth overdoing.

“If it comes out of a window, it probably isn’t good for you”

—my old neighbor

re: #110 Obdicut

I grind my own meat. Beef, well-stripped of fat, is still pretty calorific but it’s so flavorful that that’s really okay.

I do highly suggest grinding your own meat, since it cuts the risk of bacterial contamination down by a factor of about a hundred.

And it tastes better. Use a strip of bacon per pound of well-cleaned beef to restore the fat, and you’ll have a damn delicious burger.

I want to eat at your house.

Today.

Now.

re: #110 Obdicut

I grind my own meat. Beef, well-stripped of fat, is still pretty calorific but it’s so flavorful that that’s really okay.

I do highly suggest grinding your own meat, since it cuts the risk of bacterial contamination down by a factor of about a hundred.

And it tastes better. Use a strip of bacon per pound of well-cleaned beef to restore the fat, and you’ll have a damn delicious burger.

If you look at food borne illness breakouts, it usually with burger meat or beef sausage. The bacteria will grown on the outside of the muscle which can be killed with cooking. But when you mix it all up and don’t cook to well done, all bets are off. And Mad Cow, well, we’re just fucked. Can’t kill it.

re: #114 researchok

…snip

You come across as 20 years younger

That’s what my wife said when I was 32.

re: #119 Decatur Deb

That’s what my wife said when I was 32.

Naturally, you agreed with your wife.

Naturally.

re: #120 researchok

Naturally, you agreed with your wife.

Naturally.

But I shot another spitball when she turned around.

re: #120 researchok

Naturally, you agreed with your wife.

Naturally.

He’s still here, ain’t he?
;)

I’m going to try to get a couple hours sleep before I have to go to work.

Have a great morning all!

re: #118 Cannadian Club Akbar

And the ground meat in the store is coming from like twenty different cows, and the grinder has been exposed to meat from probably about a hundred cows that day.

When you grind at home, you can select a single large piece of beef to grind. So instead of running the risk of contamination from every single piece of beef that passed through that grinder, you’re just running the risk from one. So even if you decide to cook on the rarer side, you’re much safer.

re: #122 Varek Raith

He’s still here, ain’t he?
;)

My point exactly!

re: #123 ggt

I’m going to try to get a couple hours sleep before I have to go to work.

Have a great morning all!

Thanks for the help and advice!

re: #124 Obdicut

And the ground meat in the store is coming from like twenty different cows, and the grinder has been exposed to meat from probably about a hundred cows that day.

When you grind at home, you can select a single large piece of beef to grind. So instead of running the risk of contamination from every single piece of beef that passed through that grinder, you’re just running the risk from one. So even if you decide to cook on the rarer side, you’re much safer.

That’s the big thing.

No ground beef made from 100 carcasses.

Real dialogue:

Me: “I love it when I find I have forgotten half a candy bar in my fridge at work”

Wife and daughter (in chorus): “What the hell is half a candy bar?’

re: #124 Obdicut

Yes. I failed to mention that I meant meat from processing plants. But they do take samples every 30 or 45 minutes. But yea, do it at home.

Alright, time for my AM exercise/walk effort (headed to Obdi’s for a burger or three).

Later, all.

Thanks for all the input.

I’m inspired

re: #129 Cannadian Club Akbar

Yes. I failed to mention that I meant meat from processing plants. But they do take samples every 30 or 45 minutes. But yea, do it at home.

Grind your meat at home

Got it!

re: #127 researchok

That’s the big thing.

No ground beef made from 100 carcasses.

there are certain parts of the cow they don’t use anymore, IIRC. Spinal meat, brain, etc.

re: #127 researchok

Plus, it’s fun; you can grind the spices right into it, you can control the texture with a spattering of breadcrumbs, you can play with flavor by using different kinds of fat— the use of bacon fat rather than keeping the original beef fat totally changes the taste, in a wonderful way. It becomes almost veal-like. I also like using turkey fat as a replacement, or duck fat. They both give a very rich, smoky, dark feel to the burger.

I still have not yet perfected making pork sausage, though. Getting the consistency right is very hard— mine tend to separate, fall apart, or be overly solid.

Sausage fest.
:P

re: #133 Obdicut

Plus, it’s fun; you can grind the spices right into it, you can control the texture with a spattering of breadcrumbs, you can play with flavor by using different kinds of fat— the use of bacon fat rather than keeping the original beef fat totally changes the taste, in a wonderful way. It becomes almost veal-like. I also like using turkey fat as a replacement, or duck fat. They both give a very rich, smoky, dark feel to the burger.

I still have not yet perfected making pork sausage, though. Getting the consistency right is very hard— mine tend to separate, fall apart, or be overly solid.

Use ice cold water as a binder if you don’t already. That’s how I learned to make it.

re: #129 Cannadian Club Akbar

Yeah, they do what they can, and I totally respect my local butcher, but you can’t really fight the numbers. Just like you’re a lot more likely to get a staph infection from going to the hospital rather than to a small doctor’s clinic in order to get a minor wound taken care of.

re: #135 Cannadian Club Akbar

Thanks, i hadn’t heard that. Do you have a basic recipe you could give me? I don’t even really know what a good base to start from is; stuff I’ve found on the internet is all over the place.

re: #124 Obdicut

And the ground meat in the store is coming from like twenty different cows, and the grinder has been exposed to meat from probably about a hundred cows that day.

When you grind at home, you can select a single large piece of beef to grind. So instead of running the risk of contamination from every single piece of beef that passed through that grinder, you’re just running the risk from one. So even if you decide to cook on the rarer side, you’re much safer.

Modern meat packing has taught me the joys of mechanically separated poultry, meat slurry, and blood meal.

re: #137 Obdicut

Thanks, i hadn’t heard that. Do you have a basic recipe you could give me? I don’t even really know what a good base to start from is; stuff I’ve found on the internet is all over the place.

Uh, add onion, celery, garlic, cayenne pepper for hotter sausage, sugar, etc. Double grind it (large grind, then smaller) And make sure to use Fennel seed.

re: #139 Cannadian Club Akbar

simplyrecipes.com

I like this because it tells one important fact: Put your grinding tools in the freezer. Makes life easier.

re: #140 Cannadian Club Akbar

Thanks man, that’s exactly what I needed. Bookmarked.

You can also make homemade corned beef hash. Just cook a corned beef, let cool, grind away. Add taters, onion, celery, spices….

re: #142 Cannadian Club Akbar

You can also make homemade corned beef hash. Just cook a corned beef, let cool, grind away. Add taters, onion, celery, spices…

Wife does that with leftovers. Hash is a fav, home-made or canned.

Alright. Time for me to get into the writing zone. I’ve set myself a goal of finishing my book by Halloween.

Now I’m hungry.
CCA, make me some food!
/

re: #145 Varek Raith

Now I’m hungry.
CCA, make me some food!
/

English muffin, topped with crab cakes, poached eggs, Bearnaise sauce, served with pearled new potatoes? Or just run of the mill stuffed French Toast with berries?

re: #146 Cannadian Club Akbar

English muffin, topped with crab cakes, poached eggs, Bearnaise sauce, served with pearled new potatoes? Or just run of the mill stuffed French Toast with berries?

Run of the mill?
That’s fancy compared to the stuff I make!
:)

Morning Cupcakes! You’ll have to speak up a little this morning, my ears are still ringing from the show yesterday:

Youtube Video

re: #147 Varek Raith

Run of the mill?
That’s fancy compared to the stuff I make!
:)

Toaster strudels rule!!

re: #147 Varek Raith

Run of the mill?
That’s fancy compared to the stuff I make!
:)

Actually, you grind cereal (corn flakes) and use texas toast bread. Bread in the eggies, then press into the cereal. Weigh it down in the pan with another pan. Cream Cheese and berries between the slices, cut and arrange it fancy like. Top with whipped cream and more berries. That will be $10, please.:)

Dog stuff. BBIAB

So, yesterday, sitting at home, about 1:30 in the afternoon, my son informs me that he’s going to the Homecoming Dance at his school. Well, we already knew he was going and figured he’d wear the dress clothes he has,, NOPE,,he asks if he can rent a tux. Mind you, the time,, AND ,, he wants to leave the house by 5:15 to go meet the group he’s going with
SO,, after three calls to rental places, none of which had one available on 4 hours notice, we went to an outlet store. 3 hours later he was fitted, picked one out, had the pants hemmed, NOW he tells us he needs flowers for his “date”. Wifey scrambles to three florists (all closed) then to the supermarket where she buys flowers, comes home and makes a wrist corsage!
Showered, dressed and out the door by 5:20 to the Monroe Courthouse for pictures! (to follow)

Ahhh ,,, teenage boys!!

re: #152 sattv4u2

Did he ask for beer dinner money?

re: #153 Cannadian Club Akbar

Did he ask for beer dinner money?

No need

We did a couple of hits of acid after he showered

re: #154 sattv4u2

No need

We did a couple of hits of acid after he showered

And a RoofieCosmo for his date?
///

re: #155 Cannadian Club Akbar

And a RoofieCosmo for his date?
///

“Just sniff these nice flowers I got for you!”

late to the diet/exercise thread but I didn’t notice anyone mention weight training or calorie confusion (ex: 1400 one day, 1200 the next, etc.). Both will help with breaking a plateau.

Don’t know how it all ended up. I had to leave for work before he got home last night/ this morning

re: #157 RogueOne

late to the diet/exercise thread but I didn’t notice anyone mention weight training or calorie confusion (ex: 1400 one day, 1200 the next, etc.). Both will help with breaking a plateau.

I eat 2500 calories a day and only exercise (run) when being chased.

re: #159 Cannadian Club Akbar

I eat 2500 calories a day and only exercise (run) when being chased.

I’m over 3000 a day (thanks to massive amounts of soda again) and that’s down from years past. A couple years ago I noticed my body fat percentage was a lot higher than it used to be and assumed it was due to my metabolism slowing down with age. Once I got back into weight training and got my muscle mass back into line my metabolism picked back up. I look/feel great and I’m back to eating/drinking what I want. Win/win.

re: #160 RogueOne

The only drawback has been with my spouse. She’s bored with the constant posing and she’s asked that I stop sending nude pics of myself to her while she’s at work.

re: #161 RogueOne

The only drawback has been with my spouse. She’s bored with the constant posing and she’s asked that I stop sending nude pics of myself to her while she’s at work.

Can;t get any work done at the office with all the co-workers laughing, huh!?!?

re: #160 RogueOne

A good way to gain muscle is to limit your protein consumption per serving. IIRC, your body can only absorb so much at a time. 10-20 grams per serving, or something like that. Plus, working out really helps you sleep through the night, generally uninterrupted.

re: #162 sattv4u2

Can;t get any work done at the office with all the co-workers laughing, huh!?!?

I’m sure as hell not looking forward to his Christmas cards!!

re: #164 Cannadian Club Akbar

I’m sure as hell not looking forward to his Christmas cards!!

I’ve never seen a mistletoe hung from THAT before!!

re: #163 Cannadian Club Akbar

A good way to gain muscle is to limit your protein consumption per serving. IIRC, your body can only absorb so much at a time. 10-20 grams per serving, or something like that. Plus, working out really helps you sleep through the night, generally uninterrupted.

I think that might be a myth. In order to rebuild muscle mass you need a lot of protein. It was easier for me to use a supplement than it was to eat that much meat/tuna. You need a minimum of 1 gram per lb of body weight and most people suggest 1 1/2 to 2 grams per. I was using 50 per/3x a day in addition to my normal meals.

4:15 games on CBS today: Cincy/Denver, Houston/Miami, NE/SD. If my local CBS shows the Miami game, I’m gonna be pissed.

re: #164 Cannadian Club Akbar

I’m sure as hell not looking forward to his Christmas cards!!

I’ve never been shy. You should have seen the valentines greeting I sent out to all my friends this year. Me in a heart shaped hot tub rubbing my nipples. They all seemed to enjoy it.

re: #167 Cannadian Club Akbar

4:15 games on CBS today: Cincy/Denver, Houston/Miami, NE/SD. If my local CBS shows the Miami game, I’m gonna be pissed.

I’ll see what I can do!!

re: #168 RogueOne

I’ve never been shy. You should have seen the valentines greeting I sent out to all my friends this year. Me in a heart shaped hot tub rubbing my nipples. They all seemed to enjoy it.

Of course they did

Who doesn’t need a free dart board!

re: #170 sattv4u2

Of course they did

Who doesn’t need a free dart board!

you don’t have to hint around, of course I’d be happy to send you a copy!

re: #166 RogueOne

I think that might be a myth. In order to rebuild muscle mass you need a lot of protein. It was easier for me to use a supplement than it was to eat that much meat/tuna. You need a minimum of 1 gram per lb of body weight and most people suggest 1 1/2 to 2 grams per. I was using 50 per/3x a day in addition to my normal meals.

I know you need a lot of protein. I was thinking of 120 g/day over 5-6 servings. Maybe I’m thinking of body builders getting ready for competition. (my old roommate was a body builder)

re: #171 RogueOne

you don’t have to hint around, of course I’d be happy to send you a copy!

Please do

And included, please make sure there are knitting needles to stick into my eyeballs

re: #172 Cannadian Club Akbar

I know you need a lot of protein. I was thinking of 120 g/day over 5-6 servings. Maybe I’m thinking of body builders getting ready for competition. (my old roommate was a body builder)

Quite interesting. It drives home the point that eating smaller portioned meals of less than 15-10 grams of protein is optimal. It also tells us that ingesting 40 grams of protein whey for post-workout drink is not only a waste of money as it gets excreted or is converted into carbs and then stored as body fat, among other things.
bale.wordpress.com

Not sure of the source, but this is what I remember.

brb

re: #172 Cannadian Club Akbar

At 18 I was 6’4” and 155lbs. When I went to basic training they would take the fat kids food and give it to me. After 8 weeks of that I gained exactly 1 lb. 2 straight years of constant exercise got me another 10 lbs. Once I started taking the protein supplement I gained almost 30 lbs in a little more than 2 years. My belief is the additional protein was the biggest factor. That and I changed from strength training to a combo of strength/body building. Most people don’t know/understand that those are 2 different types of muscle mass, at least I didn’t.

re: #176 RogueOne

I used to take a “dynamic weight gain” product. Mixed with some milk, ice cream and some fruit, it came out to a 900 calorie shake.

re: #177 Cannadian Club Akbar

I used to take a “dynamic weight gain” product. Mixed with some milk, ice cream and some fruit, it came out to a 900 calorie shake.

jeebus! That’s a ton of calories at one sitting. Why so much?

re: #177 Cannadian Club Akbar

I used to take a “dynamic weight gain” product. Mixed with some milk, ice cream and some fruit, it came out to a 900 calorie shake.

I did the same thing,
cept I replaced the “dynamic weight gain” product with a “rum” product

re: #178 RogueOne

jeebus! That’s a ton of calories at one sitting. Why so much?

At the time I was hitting the gym 4 days a week and only weighed about 130. I was only 18. But I also ate 5 times a day on top of it.

re: #176 RogueOne

At 18 I was 6’4” and 155lbs. When I went to basic training they would take the fat kids food and give it to me. After 8 weeks of that I gained exactly 1 lb. 2 straight years of constant exercise got me another 10 lbs. Once I started taking the protein supplement I gained almost 30 lbs in a little more than 2 years. My belief is the additional protein was the biggest factor. That and I changed from strength training to a combo of strength/body building. Most people don’t know/understand that those are 2 different types of muscle mass, at least I didn’t.

My roomie drinks Muscle Milk.

Whenever I go to the store and he asks me to get him a bottle, I always ask “regular or extra lead?”

He never takes the hint.

re: #181 BongCrodny

Muscle milk? I used regular whey protein. It’s a LOT cheaper than it was 15-20 years ago. It’s only like $5/lb.

If you want to be thin, smoke weed 3x a week. It’s science!

Marijuana smokers are thinner, less likely to be obese than non-smokers, according to new study
articles.nydailynews.com

re: #183 RogueOne

If you want to be thin, smoke weed 3x a week. It’s science!

Marijuana smokers are thinner, less likely to be obese than non-smokers, according to new study
[Link: articles.nydailynews.com…]

I was actually taught that in high skool Health Class. WTF took these people so long? (I also asked the teacher how this could be true considering getting the munchies. That didn’t go over well)

re: #184 Cannadian Club Akbar

I was actually taught that in high skool Health Class. WTF took these people so long? (I also asked the teacher how this could be true considering getting the munchies. That didn’t go over well)

I wondered about that, you wouldn’t think twinkies are diet food. I doubt it’s the THC that’s keeping them thin, I wonder what the common trait is besides the marijuana that might be a factor.

re: #185 RogueOne

I wondered about that, you wouldn’t think twinkies are diet food. I doubt it’s the THC that’s keeping them thin, I wonder what the common trait is besides the marijuana that might be a factor.

Check this.
drsamgirgis.com

Gov’t Stats Reveal Demographics of Adult Marijuana Users
opposingviews.com

typically younger than 50 and white. I wonder if they tend to smoke cigarettes too.

re: #186 Cannadian Club Akbar

maybe it is the THC. Doesn’t nicotine do the same thing?

re: #188 RogueOne

maybe it is the THC. Doesn’t nicotine do the same thing?

Nicotine is a stimulant. But when people quit smoking, it’s not just because of losing the stimulant, it’s also because you’re not killing taste buds, therefore stuff taste better. I know when I didn’t have money for cigarettes I ate loads of food, about 3x the normal amount.

re: #189 Cannadian Club Akbar

I vaguely remember reading something years ago that suggested that it was more than the stimulant effect, that it somehow kept your body from being able to store as much fat. Maybe it’s this:

stbweb02.stb.sun.ac.za

I assumed once lieberman retired the seat would go/stay dem but maybe not:

Lieberman may support Republican in race for his Senate seat next year
thehill.com

Retiring Sen. Joe Lieberman (Conn.), the Democrat-turned-independent, who has had a rocky relationship with his former party over the years, says he may back the Republican nominee in the race for his seat.

Lieberman told The Hill he may endorse former Rep. Chris Shays (R-Conn.), a longtime friend. But he is not expected to make a decision before next year.

Lieberman and Shays have known each other for more than 35 years. They met as members of the Connecticut state legislature and Lieberman’s mother was a loyal political supporter of Shays.

Shays could make a good candidate.

This will be an interesting race to watch too:

Elizabeth Warren draws similar fire from Sen. Brown, Dem primary opponents
thehill.com

re: #190 RogueOne

I vaguely remember reading something years ago that suggested that it was more than the stimulant effect, that it somehow kept your body from being able to store as much fat. Maybe it’s this:

[Link: stbweb02.stb.sun.ac.za…]

Check this.
ajcn.org

Article on taste buds and smoking.
webmd.com

re: #194 Cannadian Club Akbar

Article on taste buds and smoking.
[Link: www.webmd.com…]

How do you smoke a taste bud?

re: #195 sattv4u2

How do you smoke a taste bud?

No, no, you smoke tasty bud.

re: #195 sattv4u2

How do you smoke a taste bud?

suck a cherry through your recently cleaned pipe.

re: #197 RogueOne

suck a cherry through your recently cleaned pipe.

{{getyermindouttatheguttersatty}}

Alrighty. Gonna get a nap before drinking beer and watching football. BBL.

and I have some work I need to accomplish. Enjoy the day folks.

re: #183 RogueOne

If you want to be thin, smoke weed 3x a week. It’s science!

Marijuana smokers are thinner, less likely to be obese than non-smokers, according to new study
[Link: articles.nydailynews.com…]

I’d weigh in on this topic, but I broke the scale.

I know all of you are going to be really upset by this so I hate to break it to you:

Pat Boone: Birther

On Bachmann: “I think she would make a good president…I don’t know yet whether or not she’s electable in today’s climate, but we would be in good hands….I don’t know whether the country’s ready to elect a woman.”

On gay marriage: “I have many friends, and always have had, who are homosexual..and Rock Hudson was one. So I’m not a homophobe..but I’ve seen some of the consequences of the lifestyle…everyone who opposes marriage between a man and a woman was born of a man and woman.”

On whether he thinks Obama was born in the U.S: “I don’t. I was in Kenya about a year and a half ago and everybody said, “you know he was born here.”…Why else would he be hiding all his records? He is spending millions of dollars so we do not have his records..And experts have already looked at and been able to verify that this long form document is a fraud.
“But the media ignores it….a total fraud. A photo-shopped fraud.”

On Obama’s religion: “Growing up in Indonesia, he used to read the Koran in Arabic..so that was instilled in him as a young boy…he hasn’t celebrated any Christian holidays in the White House, but he does Ramadan.” That may be a surprise to those who have attended, say the White House Easter Prayer Breakfast. Apparently, Pat’s invite is..cough..cough…in the mail.

re: #21 rwdflynavy

Of course SS is small potatoes. Medicare and Medicaid are the real cost drivers in the future. That is where our efforts should be focused.

Also,

Good Morning Honcos!

Quite Concur.

re: #202 BigPapa

I know all of you are going to be really upset by this so I hate to break it to you:

Pat Boone: Birther

On Bachmann: “I think she would make a good president…I don’t know yet whether or not she’s electable in today’s climate, but we would be in good hands….I don’t know whether the country’s ready to elect a woman.”

On gay marriage: “I have many friends, and always have had, who are homosexual..and Rock Hudson was one. So I’m not a homophobe..but I’ve seen some of the consequences of the lifestyle…everyone who opposes marriage between a man and a woman was born of a man and woman.”

On whether he thinks Obama was born in the U.S: “I don’t. I was in Kenya about a year and a half ago and everybody said, “you know he was born here.”…Why else would he be hiding all his records? He is spending millions of dollars so we do not have his records..And experts have already looked at and been able to verify that this long form document is a fraud.
“But the media ignores it….a total fraud. A photo-shopped fraud.”

On Obama’s religion: “Growing up in Indonesia, he used to read the Koran in Arabic..so that was instilled in him as a young boy…he hasn’t celebrated any Christian holidays in the White House, but he does Ramadan.” That may be a surprise to those who have attended, say the White House Easter Prayer Breakfast. Apparently, Pat’s invite is..cough..cough…in the mail.

To quote Laura Ingram: Shut up and sing, Pat!

Honestly, I don’t know why anyone would think that a singer is a good person to get political advice from. Most of them are left-wing political morons (U2 and Green Day are partial exceptions) and Pat Boone only differs in that he is a right-wing political moron.

Talking about food, here is an extract from yesterday’s local paper. This is why the BS about the role of charities in fighting an economic crisis doesn’t work. A friend who volunteers at the United Way information center says it is true of our local efforts in general.

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For the fifth straight year, the (newspaper) and …snip.. Area United Way Food Bank teamed up this summer to raise money for the hungry.

Subscribe to a Solution, a program in which envelopes were inserted into issues of the (paper) for the purpose of soliciting donations to the food bank, raised $7,260 this year. Unfortunately, that number is far lower than in previous years. The fundraiser reached its peak in its second year with $20,000, and last year’s total was $9,000.

“Our donations have slacked off in what I believe to be a direct relationship with the state of the economy,” said Julie Gonzalez, special projects coordinator for the food bank. “This year has been the toughest year we have experienced in fundraising during my five years with the food bank.”

The money is used to supply food to the food bank’s member agencies, which include churches and soup kitchens, among others.

According to Gonzalez, each dollar the food bank receives provides six meals to feed the needy.

“We hope Subscribe to a Solution will gain momentum again as the economy improves, but for now we are very grateful for the funds we have received,” she said.

re: #202 BigPapa

I know all of you are going to be really upset by this so I hate to break it to you:

Pat Boone: Birther

The only reason I was upset is because when I was about 7-8 y/o, mom made me where white shoes because she liked Pat Boone and he always wore them

In the 50 years since, I got over it!

re: #206 sattv4u2

I know all of you are going to be really upset by this so I hate to break it to you:

Pat Boone: Birther

The only reason I was upset is because when I was about 7-8 y/o, mom made me where white shoes because she liked Pat Boone and he always wore them

In the 50 years since, I got over it!

I just hate that Little Richard ripped off his song.

Youtube Video

re: #207 Decatur Deb

umm,,,, ”’errrr,,, the still photo 1:42 in

Pat Boone ,,, the XXX film star years ?!?!?!

re: #205 Decatur Deb

Talking about food, here is an extract from yesterday’s local paper. This is why the BS about the role of charities in fighting an economic crisis doesn’t work. A friend who volunteers at the United Way information center says it is true of our local efforts in general.

…snip..
For the fifth straight year, the (newspaper) and …snip.. Area United Way Food Bank teamed up this summer to raise money for the hungry.

Subscribe to a Solution, a program in which envelopes were inserted into issues of the (paper) for the purpose of soliciting donations to the food bank, raised $7,260 this year. Unfortunately, that number is far lower than in previous years. The fundraiser reached its peak in its second year with $20,000, and last year’s total was $9,000.

“Our donations have slacked off in what I believe to be a direct relationship with the state of the economy,” said Julie Gonzalez, special projects coordinator for the food bank. “This year has been the toughest year we have experienced in fundraising during my five years with the food bank.”

The money is used to supply food to the food bank’s member agencies, which include churches and soup kitchens, among others.

According to Gonzalez, each dollar the food bank receives provides six meals to feed the needy.

“We hope Subscribe to a Solution will gain momentum again as the economy improves, but for now we are very grateful for the funds we have received,” she said.

It’s a major problem, no doubt. When things get better, I think charities need to have ways to sock money away against bad years instead of expanding their programs as much as they otherwise would have. That might need a change in the law, though, but I feel promotion of such savings would be a good idea.

re: #209 Dark_Falcon

It’s a major problem, no doubt. When things get better, I think charities need to have ways to sock money away against bad years instead of expanding their programs as much as they otherwise would have. That might need a change in the law, though, but I feel promotion of such savings would be a good idea.

As long as charities are spending their money on their stated purpose and not embezzling it, then I don’t thereis much the government can or would have to say about how much they spend…

re: #209 Dark_Falcon

It’s a major problem, no doubt. When things get better, I think charities need to have ways to sock money away against bad years instead of expanding their programs as much as they otherwise would have. That might need a change in the law, though, but I feel promotion of such savings would be a good idea.

Yeah—they could invest it in AIG.

Gotta run. BBL

re: #207 Decatur Deb

I just hate that Little Richard ripped off his song.

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he wrote it, not Boone

re: #213 albusteve

he wrote it, not Boone

Does that need snark hashes?

re: #214 Decatur Deb

Does that need snark hashes?

I am the Oracle of Truth

re: #215 albusteve

I am the Oracle of Truth

I saw “Rock Around the Clock” as a first-round showing.

re: #216 Decatur Deb

I saw “Rock Around the Clock” as a first-round showing.

you win a case of Geritol

re: #217 albusteve

you win a case of Geritol

It goes well with a nice liver and fava beans.

Geriattrition: consistently responding to somebody who is much younger and stupider than you with the end result of them giving up and going away.

Yes, I just made that up. Coffee is really good this AM.

Paul Ryan, Herman Cain Push For Tax Increases On Middle Class

Rep. Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) said on Sunday that House Republicans would oppose President Barack Obama’s payroll tax cuts for both employers and employees, arguing that the policy had already failed to provide a sufficient boost to the economy. “It hasn’t worked,” Ryan said, suggesting the current temporary tax cut should be allowed to expire, which will amount to a 50 percent tax hike on workers making less than $106,000 per year.

He also said he opposes the president’s proposal to require millionaires to pay the same tax rate as the middle class, known as the Buffett plan. “Class warfare might make for good politics, but it makes for rotten economics,” Ryan said.

Given their recent antics they just might get their wish. We’re so fucked.

The one lesson we come to learn is that it sucks to be middle class…

Be poor, benefit from social services, pay almost no taxes.

Be rich: benefit from deductions and deferrals, pay almost no taxes.

Be middle class: get squeezed both ways to pay for both

re: #220 Killgore Trout

They are mind numbingly stupid.

Let tax cuts expire on less than $106k earners, we’re for it.

Increase taxes on all, including millionaires: class warfare

Fucktarded. I hope they run with this, I cannot wait for the Tea Party to respond to this.

re: #220 Killgore Trout

Paul Ryan, Herman Cain Push For Tax Increases On Middle Class

Given their recent antics they just might get their wish. We’re so fucked.

Class Warfare!!!

re: #219 BigPapa

Geriattrition: consistently responding to somebody who is much younger and stupider than you with the end result of them giving up and going away.

Yes, I just made that up. Coffee is really good this AM.

That would be a “sniglet”, a word that should exist, but doesn’t. They were a feature of Laugh-In or a similar show. Our family favorite is “barkuuming”, giving the dog time to scarf dropped food.

re: #207 Decatur Deb

I just hate that Little Richard ripped off his song.

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That’s like saying Nirvana ripped off “Lake of Fire,” Jeff Buckley ripped off “Hallelujah,” or Led Zeppelin ripped off “When the Levee Breaks.”

re: #224 Decatur Deb

That would be a “sniglet”, a word that should exist, but doesn’t. They were a feature of Laugh-In or a similar show. Our family favorite is “barkuuming”, giving the dog time to scarf dropped food.

Stipulate: to incoherently mumble the words to an REM song.

re: #225 Atlas Fails

That’s like saying Nirvana ripped off “Lake of Fire,” Jeff Buckley ripped off “Hallelujah,” or Led Zeppelin ripped off “When the Levee Breaks.”

Sorry—I thought everyone would know about Tutti Fruitti. (Jeff Buckley did cover Leonard Cohen, so I’m guessing the others are rips too?)

re: #224 Decatur Deb

That would be a “sniglet”, a word that should exist, but doesn’t. They were a feature of Laugh-In or a similar show. Our family favorite is “barkuuming”, giving the dog time to scarf dropped food.

Hah! Just the other day I was just explaining to a friend my habit of mashing words together, when I started and where I got the idea. It was a Showtime show in my late teens, forget the name but remember the actor’s face. This was before Foxworthy picked up the torch a la Redneck Style sniglets. It’s one of my insufferable things that my friends put up with and my wife will occasionally pity laugh for me.

Barkuming, brilliant.

re: #225 Atlas Fails

That’s like saying Nirvana ripped off “Lake of Fire,” Jeff Buckley ripped off “Hallelujah,” or Led Zeppelin ripped off “When the Levee Breaks.”

Ahem

Hallelujah is a Leonard Cohen original.

Michele Bachmann: the gift that keeps on giving. ROFL.

Bachmann: Obama Just ‘Sat On His Hands’ And Let Mubarak Fall

Michele Bachmann argued that President Obama should have tried to stop Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak from falling, saying that “we saw President [Hosni] Mubarak fall while President Obama sat on his hands.”

Bachmann was speaking to about 400 people at the California Republican convention Friday, and as the National Journal reports, blamed President Obama’s for “the hostilities of the Arab spring,” which saw the toppling of regimes in Egypt, Tunisia and Libya and pro-democracy protests across the region.

re: #225 Atlas Fails

That’s like saying Nirvana ripped off “Lake of Fire,” Jeff Buckley ripped off “Hallelujah,” or Led Zeppelin ripped off “When the Levee Breaks.”

“Lake of Fire” is a Meat Puppets song. Just FYI.

re: #228 BigPapa

Hah! Just the other day I was just explaining to a friend my habit of mashing words together, when I started and where I got the idea. It was a Showtime show in my late teens, forget the name but remember the actor’s face. This was before Foxworthy picked up the torch a la Redneck Style sniglets. It’s one of my insufferable things that my friends put up with and my wife will occasionally pity laugh for me.

Barkuming, brilliant.

Ah! There’s wiki on it—I had the wrong show.

en.wikipedia.org

re: #220 Killgore Trout
We have had Homeland security, two wars and a recession. Of course taxes must go up.
In the sense of fairness, and to quiet the class warfare whiners, middle class taxes should go up a little, and more as we go up the economic ladder. I happen to favor a taller progressive tax scale. I see no reason a ten million dollar income needs to be at the same rate as a fifty million dollar income. For a person or a corporation.

But I do very strongly object to tax reform in the “end the Bush tax cuts” method. That is a partisan approach to an economic problem. It’s more about post Bush anger than economics. Fixing the problem beats fixing the blame. I find it highly unlikely that the best tax chart is exactly what we had before the Bush cuts. I for one am not afraid of the tax charts we had in Clinton’s term.

There is potential for the development of political sniglets:

“Mexicution”: Gov Perry’s notion of clemency.

re: #230 Lidane

Michele Bachmann: the gift that keeps on giving. ROFL.

Bachmann: Obama Just ‘Sat On His Hands’ And Let Mubarak Fall

It’s nice that Michele cares so much about a dictator.

re: #220 Killgore Trout

Paul Ryan, Herman Cain Push For Tax Increases On Middle Class

Given their recent antics they just might get their wish. We’re so fucked.

As I’ve argued before, Republicans like Ryan and Cain aren’t really anti tax, they’re anti tax on the wealthy and corporations but the middle class and poor, tax away!

re: #236 HappyWarrior

As I’ve argued before, Republicans like Ryan and Cain aren’t really anti tax, they’re anti tax on the wealthy and corporations but the middle class and poor, tax away!

But when you point that out, you’re the one who’s all about “class warfare”.

re: #229 blueraven

Ahem

Hallelujah is a Leonard Cohen original.

That was my point. Buckley’s version was not the original, but it is the most popular, and considered by many to be the definitive version. Same goes for Nirvana’s “Lake of Fire” and Led Zep’s “When the Levee Breaks.”

(btw, I like Cohen and think the original “Hallelujah” was great, maybe even better than Buckley’s. It’s hard to deny that Buckley’s is the most well-known, though.)

re: #238 Atlas Fails

That was my point. Buckley’s version was not the original, but it is the most popular, and considered by many to be the definitive version. Same goes for Nirvana’s “Lake of Fire” and Led Zep’s “When the Levee Breaks.”

(btw, I like Cohen and think the original “Hallelujah” was great, maybe even better than Buckley’s. It’s hard to deny that Buckley’s is the most well-known, though.)

Thought that was where you were going, but don’t know Nirvana—my kid’s music.

re: #237 Lidane

But when you point that out, you’re the one who’s all about “class warfare”.

I know. It’s class warfare to point that out but it’s dandy for Republican candidates to compare welfare recipients to animals.

re: #237 Lidane

But when you point that out, you’re the one who’s all about “class warfare”.

= people who cry racism are the real racists

We’re dealing with teenager logic here folks. Problem is many of our ‘leaders’ in government are guilty of it.

Lunch—BBL

re: #238 Atlas Fails

That was my point. Buckley’s version was not the original, but it is the most popular, and considered by many to be the definitive version. Same goes for Nirvana’s “Lake of Fire” and Led Zep’s “When the Levee Breaks.”

(btw, I like Cohen and think the original “Hallelujah” was great, maybe even better than Buckley’s. It’s hard to deny that Buckley’s is the most well-known, though.)

Speaking of Leonard Cohen and covers, I really like Rufus Wainwright’s cover of Chelsea Hotel #2. Damn that’s emotional. Not a Cohen song but another cover I really like is Harry Nilsson’s cover of Badfinger’s Without You.

Sarchasm: uncomfortably cynical jokes about failing bridges when crossing one.

re: #239 Decatur Deb

Thought that was where you were going, but don’t know Nirvana—my kid’s music.

Nirvana was great. Please don’t judge them by the generation of emo high school Kurt Cobain wannabes who related to their music because mom and dad wouldn’t let them borrow the car.

re: #235 HappyWarrior

It’s nice that Michele cares so much about a dictator who approved & helped the Lockerbie bomber.

Just had to add that tidbit.

re: #246 Rightwingconspirator

Just had to add that tidbit.

Mubarak did? I know Qaddafi did but didn’t know Mubarak was involved with Lockerbie.

re: #247 HappyWarrior

Mubarak did? I know Qaddafi did but didn’t know Mubarak was involved with Lockerbie.

Oh crap I mixed up two lowlife dictators. That’s embarrassing. I better get a coffee. My bad.

re: #248 Rightwingconspirator

Oh crap I mixed up two lowlife dictators. I better get a coffee. My bad.

All good, she’s been pretty defensive of Mohmmar too though.

We had a bit of rain (the first good rain in a month or two) and I heard my new crop of frogs croaking for the first time this morning.