Video: President Obama Sings Al Green at the Apollo Theatre
And not too shabbily either
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After the divisive fear-mongering of the GOP debate, this is like a drink of clean, cold water.
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jaunte Thu, Jan 19, 2012 8:56:21pm |
Obama says the election would be "as stark a choice as we have seen."
The president told top donors in New York that he had made American foreign policy stronger during his first term, vowing that U.S. support for Israel's security is "nonnegotiable." He also defended his administration's approach to Iran, saying even Tehran has acknowledged that U.S. sanctions are having an impact.
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Obama said the election would be "as stark a choice as we have seen," noting that he shared similar views with 2008 GOP nominee John McCain on banning torture, climate change and closing the prison at Guantanamo Bay, Cuba. "If you've been listening to the Republican debates, they have moved. I've stayed here. They've gone in a different direction."
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jaunte Thu, Jan 19, 2012 8:57:44pm |
If he'll sing the whole song, he could have the election in the bag.
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freetoken Thu, Jan 19, 2012 8:58:26pm |
re: #1 jaunte
I really don't know what to think. I'm hoping many people across this country, people who actually take time out of their day once every two years on a Tuesday and go vote, will see how driven by the fringe the GOP has become.
However, many people simply do not vote. And, many people who vote do so with the strangest of motivations.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Thu, Jan 19, 2012 9:05:06pm |
What happens if he sings Barry White?
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Thu, Jan 19, 2012 9:05:36pm |
Do we get a few baby states for Christmas?
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freetoken Thu, Jan 19, 2012 9:06:42pm |
The American Electorate and the current GOP:
Teaching school children evolution is foundation for Godlessness
E. Scott Cracraft's letter in the Jan. 12 Laconia Daily Sun concerned a proposed bill that would have creationism taught along side evolution in science classes in public schools. Scott says, that, "Science is what can be empirically demonstrated. Otherwise, it is a matter of faith or philosophy," and that the theory of evolution meets that criteria and that creationism does not.
Let's start there. [...] In fact, I think I can make a better case for the Biblical creation account being empirical, and if not empirical at least reasonable, than Scott can for the theory of evolution.
What we know of history seems to support that the early chapters of Genesis are actual history [...]
Teaching our children evolution in school these past generations has provided a foundation for Godlessness in our generations and all of the evils that goes along with it. [...]
Darwin vs. design — if one is taught, should the other be required?
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"Darwin did his study and his theory many, many, many years ago," said state Rep. Sue Allen (right), R-Town & Country, a co-sponsor of the bill. "I think research and science have changed so much over time that it's naive to believe one theory such as evolution without considering the other options."
The legislation, introduced by state Rep. Rick Brattin (right), R-Harrisonville, with five co-sponsors, is known as the Missouri Standard Science Act. It starts off with three definitions, from "analogous naturalistic process" through "biological evolution" to "biological intelligent design," which it says is "a hypothesis that the complex form and function observed in biological structures are the result of intelligence and, by inference, that the origin of biological life and the diversity of all original species on earth are the result of intelligence."
Inherent within that definition, the bill adds, is the existence of a designer:
"Intelligence-directed action is necessary to exceed the limits of natural species change, which is a combination of autogenous species change and environmental effected species change," says one section.
Adds another: "The lack of significant present-day observable changes in species due to random variation, mutation, natural selection, adaptation, segregation, or other naturalistic mechanisms implies intelligence as the cause for all original species."
Given those assumptions, the bill says, both Darwin and design must get equal treatment in Missouri classrooms, down to an equal number of pages of material in textbooks and supplemental material if needed. In all standard science courses using empirical data, "only such data which has been verified or is currently capable of being verified by observation or experimentation shall be taught."
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Brattin, who sponsored the bill, told the Beacon it is all about bringing objectivity to the classroom.
[...]
"We don't know what happened 10 million years ago. We don't know what happened 100 million years ago. It's all theory."
[...]
So, if this electorate decides who is President, then.... ?
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freetoken Thu, Jan 19, 2012 9:07:29pm |
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Thu, Jan 19, 2012 9:10:14pm |
re: #7 freetoken
What happens if he sings Barry Manilow?
No. That would be like dividing by zero, or letting the matter and the anti-matter touch.
Barry's too white.
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austin_blue Thu, Jan 19, 2012 9:14:55pm |
Mittens will retaliate with an Osmand Brother's medley!
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jaunte Thu, Jan 19, 2012 9:15:21pm |
re: #6 freetoken
"The lack of significant present-day observable changes in species due to random variation, mutation, natural selection, adaptation, segregation, or other naturalistic mechanisms implies intelligence as the cause for all original species."
Not too well read in their chosen subject.
The Angry Astronomer responds:
"...here's a quick recap:
-The bill admits that evolution is a theory and ID is a hypothesis.
-It promptly tosses that distinction out the window to engage in some false equivocation.
-It incorrectly defines most of its terms.
-It throws out all of the typical Creationist/ID false claims against evolution and pretends that they're 1) honest criticisms and 2) a positive argument for ID.
-Leaves a wide open door to promote the Christian God as the identity of the Designer.
-Appoints non-experts to develop classroom material.
[Link: angryastronomer.blogspot.com...]
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Dark_Falcon Thu, Jan 19, 2012 9:16:39pm |
re: #4 EmmmieG
What happens if he sings Barry White?
Then we get dire warnings from Robert Stacy McCain and Patrick Buchanan about how
BARACK HUSSEIN OBAMA IS AN OBSTREPEROUS NEGRO MUSLIM WHO IS TRYING TO SEDUCE WHITE WOMEN!!!11
I really wish I was kidding.
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MittDoesNotCompute Thu, Jan 19, 2012 9:17:38pm |
re: #8 EmmmieG
No. That would be like dividing by zero, or letting the matter and the anti-matter touch.
Barry's too white.
C'mon...you don't want to see President Obama belt out Copacabana?
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erik_t Thu, Jan 19, 2012 9:17:52pm |
Likable 2012 presidential candidate? What is this?
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austin_blue Thu, Jan 19, 2012 9:19:32pm |
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Kragar Thu, Jan 19, 2012 9:22:13pm |
re: #10 jaunte
Not too well read in their chosen subject.
The Angry Astronomer responds:
The universe is a product of Intelligent design.
That intelligence created it over billions of years using observable processes that can be studied and explained via science.
Or do they want to say God isn't omnipotent and couldn't create the universe unless it was by hocus pocus?
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jaunte Thu, Jan 19, 2012 9:23:25pm |
From the comments at Angry Black Lady Chronicles
(Tirades and Tumors from My Busted Mind-Head):
ABL:
Can I just say how awesome it is to see a black president singing Al Green at the Apollo? I mean, can we just stop and think about how momentous that is?Hot damn.
[Link: www.angryblacklady.com...]
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Thu, Jan 19, 2012 9:25:32pm |
re: #12 talon_262
C'mon...you don't want to see President Obama belt out Copacabana?
What has been heard cannot be unheard.
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Kragar Thu, Jan 19, 2012 9:26:01pm |
re: #16 jaunte
From the comments at Angry Black Lady Chronicles
(Tirades and Tumors from My Busted Mind-Head):
On the other hand, the current GOP crop is now desperately trying to figure out what they're going to do for the talent portion of the show.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Thu, Jan 19, 2012 9:26:54pm |
re: #18 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
On the other hand, the current GOP crop is now desperately trying to figure out what they're going to do for the talent portion of the show.
First one to juggle flaming batons wins my vote.
(Not really. I can't actually think of anything that would make me vote for Newt.)
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Kragar Thu, Jan 19, 2012 9:29:25pm |
re: #19 EmmmieG
First one to juggle flaming batons wins my vote.
(Not really. I can't actually think of anything that would make me vote for Newt.)
Calista drops the magic curtain, Newt jumps out and says "SHE TURNED ME INTO A NEWT!"
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Thu, Jan 19, 2012 9:29:51pm |
re: #20 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Calista drops the magic curtain, Newt jumps out and says "SHE TURNED ME INTO A NEWT!"
Newts can't be president.
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William Barnett-Lewis Thu, Jan 19, 2012 9:30:30pm |
re: #18 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
On the other hand, the current GOP crop is now desperately trying to figure out what they're going to do for the talent portion of the show.
Just imagine the swimsuit competition!!!
Ayeeee!!!!!!!!!!!!! My Eyes!!!!!
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Thu, Jan 19, 2012 9:31:09pm |
re: #22 wlewisiii
Just imagine the swimsuit competition!!!
Ayeee!!! My Eyes!!!
No. Just no.
Have you no mercy?
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Kragar Thu, Jan 19, 2012 9:35:51pm |
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jaunte Thu, Jan 19, 2012 9:37:06pm |
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Thu, Jan 19, 2012 9:37:07pm |
re: #10 jaunte
Did you know we only have theories about what is in the center of the Earth?
Nobody can go there and verify, so we're doing the best we can.
My vote is that there is really a big glowing sphere with candy stalactites and streams of molten chocolate in which unicorns dance and frolic.
Okay, so maybe it's all just molten lava going around and around in a convection current causing the earth to have magnetic poles. A girl can still dream, can't she?
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Kragar Thu, Jan 19, 2012 9:39:30pm |
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Amory Blaine Thu, Jan 19, 2012 9:40:41pm |
Young Newt vs. Dwight Schrute: Do you see the resemblance?
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austin_blue Thu, Jan 19, 2012 9:45:34pm |
Actually, it's just a big metal ball turning slightly slower than the rest of our planet, inducing magnetic fields (Science! Physics!)
Actually, I would like to note that when Mittens and his wife got married in The Big Temple in Salt Lake City, her parents were barred from the ceremony. They weren't Mormons.
How hard did that suck for them?
I mean, really? Your daughter is getting married and you have to stand outside because you are not worthy?
Pfft.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Thu, Jan 19, 2012 9:46:16pm |
re: #29 austin_blue
Actually, it's just a big metal ball turning slightly slower than the rest of our planet, inducing magnetic fields (Science! Physics!)
Actually, I would like to note that when Mittens and his wife got married in The Big Temple in Salt Lake City, her parents were barred from the ceremony. They weren't Mormons.
How hard did that suck for them?
I mean, really? Your daughter is getting married and you have to stand outside because you are not worthy?
Pfft.
Mitt and Ann were married back in the day when you got married first then got sealed shortly thereafter. Her parents were at the wedding.
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engineer cat Thu, Jan 19, 2012 9:48:15pm |
intelligent design
why is the fourth dimension stuck so that it only goes in one direction?
and is that a bug or a design flaw?
and has a bug report been logged for it?
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Dark_Falcon Thu, Jan 19, 2012 9:49:26pm |
re: #29 austin_blue
Actually, it's just a big metal ball turning slightly slower than the rest of our planet, inducing magnetic fields (Science! Physics!)
Pfft.
Fuckin' magnets, how do they work?
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engineer cat Thu, Jan 19, 2012 9:51:49pm |
re: #29 austin_blue
Actually, it's just a big metal ball turning slightly slower than the rest of our planet, inducing magnetic fields
that explains why disco balls are venerated as holy icons
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William Barnett-Lewis Thu, Jan 19, 2012 9:53:20pm |
re: #30 EmmmieG
Mitt and Ann were married back in the day when you got married first then got sealed shortly thereafter. Her parents were at the wedding.
I may well be misunderstanding something here - I take it, then, these are two separate ceremonies? With the wedding being what is more, uhm, conventionally considered as marriage happening then with "sealed" being a Latter-Day Saints specific ceremony? I'm sorry if I'm mangling this, but I am interested in learning more.
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austin_blue Thu, Jan 19, 2012 9:53:39pm |
re: #30 EmmmieG
Mitt and Ann were married back in the day when you got married first then got sealed shortly thereafter. Her parents were at the wedding.
I've still got a huge problem when a daughter's parents can attend the actual civil marriage ceremony, but not of the rites of a particular religion, in this case the "sealing".
Why weren't they allowed to attend?
Just tremendously odd.
But then, I'm a Deist.
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aagcobb Thu, Jan 19, 2012 9:53:56pm |
re: #21 EmmmieG
Newts can't be president.
Found out tonight that Newt's middle name is Leroy. Its the only thing I like about him.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Thu, Jan 19, 2012 9:54:57pm |
re: #34 wlewisiii
I may well be misunderstanding something here - I take it, then, these are two separate ceremonies? With the wedding being what is more, uhm, conventionally considered as marriage happening then with "sealed" being a Latter-Day Saints specific ceremony? I'm sorry if I'm mangling this, but I am interested in learning more.
Nowadays you can't do it that way, but back in the 60's you can't.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Thu, Jan 19, 2012 9:55:56pm |
re: #37 EmmmieG
Wait, could do it that way. My parents were married that way, which is why I know about it.
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Dark_Falcon Thu, Jan 19, 2012 9:56:05pm |
re: #37 EmmmieG
Nowadays you can't do it that way, but back in the 60's you can't.
If you see this in time, use the pencil.
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William Barnett-Lewis Thu, Jan 19, 2012 9:57:51pm |
re: #38 EmmmieG
Wait, could do it that way. My parents were married that way, which is why I know about it.
Thank you, things make a bit more sense.
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austin_blue Thu, Jan 19, 2012 9:57:52pm |
re: #32 Dark_Falcon
Fuckin' magnets, how do they work?
Oh, my goodness:
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
(Nice that it's back up today!)
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ElCapitanAmerica Thu, Jan 19, 2012 10:03:32pm |
Did he sing this after watching tonights debate? Seems to be in a great mood.
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Dark_Falcon Thu, Jan 19, 2012 10:03:37pm |
re: #41 austin_blue
Oh, my goodness:
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
(Nice that it's back up today!)
Sorry, a member of my gaming group is an ICP fan, though he does not wear makeup.
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ProGunLiberal Thu, Jan 19, 2012 10:10:34pm |
re: #43 Dark_Falcon
I always thought ICP was rather stupid.
My opinion of their fans is quite a bit lower.
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ProGunLiberal Thu, Jan 19, 2012 10:14:02pm |
Oh, right I have some FB statuses from the MSA President to share. I want your opinion on how vicious I should be next week, on a scale from one to 10.
I am leaning towards 13
I just heard a girl cusses, she looks like a monkey in my head already! Seriously
Actually yes, but I'm making a point here. Guys and girls are not the same is so many aspects
I want to rip the Salafi troglodyte a new mother-fucking asshole.
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Lidane Thu, Jan 19, 2012 10:15:17pm |
re: #19 EmmmieG
First one to juggle flaming
batonschainsaws wins a coupon for the same health care that the GOP wants for the poor.
FTFY
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Thu, Jan 19, 2012 10:15:35pm |
re: #45 ProLifeLiberal
Does he swear? In that case, he's a hypocrite. There aren't two sets of Ten Commandments--one for the ladies and one for the gentlemen.
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ProGunLiberal Thu, Jan 19, 2012 10:16:39pm |
re: #47 EmmmieG
Mild swearing. No F-word or anything.
I'm the real life Cid Highwind on the other hand.
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Opal Thu, Jan 19, 2012 10:16:44pm |
He may have just won the vote of every woman who has even the tiniest bit of estrogen still in her system. That includes Betty White.
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Dark_Falcon Thu, Jan 19, 2012 10:18:39pm |
re: #45 ProLifeLiberal
Oh, right I have some FB statuses from the MSA President to share. I want your opinion on how vicious I should be next week, on a scale from one to 10.
I am leaning towards 13
I want to rip the Salafi troglodyte a new mother-fucking asshole.
13 seems about right. But you seriously need to check that rage of yours PLL. I sometimes have pent-up anger, but yours is far worse. You need to find a constructive way to let it out, or it'll consume you.
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Mostly sane, most of the time. Thu, Jan 19, 2012 10:18:49pm |
re: #48 ProLifeLiberal
Mild swearing. No F-word or anything.
I'm the real life Cid Highwind on the other hand.
Hmm. Well, he's free to find swearing unattractive if he doesn't do it himself, but he should avoid the word "monkey."
Just...always. Unless you're at the zoo in front of the primates cage.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Thu, Jan 19, 2012 10:21:08pm |
re: #51 EmmmieG
Just...always. Unless you're at the zoo in front of the primates cage.
Quit staring through my bedroom window, please. I say that for your own protection, really.
/
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ProGunLiberal Thu, Jan 19, 2012 10:23:27pm |
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Lidane Thu, Jan 19, 2012 10:23:32pm |
re: #42 ElCapitanAmerica
Did he sing this after watching tonights debate? Seems to be in a great mood.
After watching tonight's debate, he probably started dancing. If that's his competition, he's got nothing to worry about.
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William Barnett-Lewis Thu, Jan 19, 2012 10:28:36pm |
re: #50 Dark_Falcon
13 seems about right. But you seriously need to check that rage of yours PLL. I sometimes have pent-up anger, but yours is far worse. You need to find a constructive way to let it out, or it'll consume you.
Gotta agree with DF here. I'd seriously suggest you take up a martial art. It's not all that important what - bare hand, blade or firearms - but the discipline will help you keep that hard core rage under control. PROVERBIAL - ask me how I know ... ;)
Fear and anger are the two things that lead straight to hell. That is true in both of our traditions.
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Dark_Falcon Thu, Jan 19, 2012 10:29:48pm |
re: #53 ProLifeLiberal
For the record, this is Cid Highwind:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=iHmv-41oKNw
He swears...a little bit.
Edit: Why won't the link set in properly?
re: #50 Dark_FalconI'll try. When I feel isolated in the real world, I tend to react like a cornered badger. Add the stress otherwise, and I become like a cornered wolverine.
I get it, I really do. But because of that I also understand the dire risks if you don't find a safe way to vent. You're liable to finally just blow up on a wingnut or Salafist. And while I would cry no tears if either such person got their ass kicked, I'd much rather not have to write you a snail mail letter because you got sent to jail for beating an asshole up.
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ProGunLiberal Thu, Jan 19, 2012 10:31:46pm |
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Dark_Falcon Thu, Jan 19, 2012 10:41:08pm |
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sagehen Thu, Jan 19, 2012 10:43:11pm |
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William Barnett-Lewis Thu, Jan 19, 2012 10:43:32pm |
I'm winding down, Just take care, ok? I'd prefer to do with you than without you.
L8r.
William
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Lidane Thu, Jan 19, 2012 10:49:24pm |
The Evil New Tactic Behind Anonymous’ Massive Megaupload Revenge Attack
The hacktivist collective Anonymous is in the middle of a huge revenge spree after the Feds shut down popular filesharing site Megaupload today. But they're using an evil new tactic that tricks people into helping their attack if they click an innocuous link.
The Department of Justice, MPAA and Universal Music websites have all been taken down in the past hour as part of Operation Megaupload, which is shaping up to be the biggest Anonymous campaign in months.
Here's one reason they've been able to muster so much firepower: Anonymous members are distributing a link that ropes internet users into an illegal DDoS attack against these websites simply by clicking it. The link is being shared widely on Twitter and in Anonymous chat rooms, often with no context except that it relates to Operation Megaload. I clicked it a few minutes ago because it was being spammed in an Anonymous chatroom and found myself instantly DDoSing Universalmusic.com, my computer rapidly pinging the page with no way to stop except quickly closing the window.
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Kragar Thu, Jan 19, 2012 10:54:32pm |
re: #61 Lidane
The Evil New Tactic Behind Anonymous’ Massive Megaupload Revenge Attack
Yeah, this will end well.
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Dark_Falcon Thu, Jan 19, 2012 10:54:51pm |
re: #61 Lidane
The Evil New Tactic Behind Anonymous’ Massive Megaupload Revenge Attack
That's rotten. They trick others into doing their dirty work. "Internet Freedom For Me, But Not For Thee!" seems to be the motto of Anonymous.
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Lidane Thu, Jan 19, 2012 10:55:47pm |
re: #62 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Yeah, this will end well.
Seriously.
I'm all for opposing both SOPA and PIPA, but that's beyond the pale. Tricking people into unknowingly committing a felony on your behalf? That's just wrong.
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Kragar Thu, Jan 19, 2012 10:57:53pm |
re: #64 Lidane
Seriously.
I'm all for opposing both SOPA and PIPA, but that's beyond the pale. Tricking people into unknowingly committing a felony on your behalf? That's just wrong.
Using someone else's computer to launch cyber attacks is a separate crime in and of itself, I think.
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Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Thu, Jan 19, 2012 11:01:52pm |
re: #65 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Using someone else's computer to launch cyber attacks is a separate crime in and of itself, I think.
IIRC, bouncing through a state computer, like that of grade school principle at a public school, could get a hacker life in prison.
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Kragar Thu, Jan 19, 2012 11:04:17pm |
re: #66 Slumbering Behemoth
IIRC, bouncing through a state computer, like that of grade school principle at a public school, could get a hacker life in prison.
Sure, it comes down to a case by case basis, but I'm sure a prosecutor would be willing to accept a sworn statement of "I didn't realize what the program was doing" if it meant hitting the source with several thousand counts of illegal usage.
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AK-47% Thu, Jan 19, 2012 11:06:37pm |
re: #6 freetoken
These people are letting us know how clueless they are about science and how it works, something they taught us in the sixth grade: it is an empirical, objective study of the world.
And they do not understand what a scientific theory is: namely a hypothesis supported by facts.
And Darwins hypothesis, that creatures evolve through natural selection, is supported by countless facts from all brances of science and physics.
That makes it a theory. An incredibly well founded theory.
Any hypothesis that requires the existence of a supernatural being cannot be confirmed by empirical, objective methods and cannot become a theory in the scientific sense.
Christ, even the Pope says he sees to inherent conflict between Evolution and Biblical Creation. Only ignorant literalists refuse to see that the two are separate issues.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Thu, Jan 19, 2012 11:08:06pm |
re: #63 Dark_Falcon
That's rotten. They trick others into doing their dirty work. "Internet Freedom For Me, But Not For Thee!" seems to be the motto of Anonymous.
They are a bunch of stupid a-holes.
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palomino Thu, Jan 19, 2012 11:10:01pm |
re: #68 ralphieboy
Just amazing how the right, in some ways, hasn't progressed since the infamous monkey trial. To many of them, it's still 1925 and we're all still in small town Tennessee.
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Thu, Jan 19, 2012 11:10:45pm |
re: #70 palomino
Just amazing how the right, in some ways, hasn't progressed since the infamous monkey trial. To many of them, it's still 1925 and we're all still in small town Tennessee.
And a bunch of us are still just monkeys, to them.
Stupid a-holes.
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AK-47% Thu, Jan 19, 2012 11:14:23pm |
re: #70 palomino
Just amazing how the right, in some ways, hasn't progressed since the infamous monkey trial. To many of them, it's still 1925 and we're all still in small town Tennessee.
When they say "I want my country back!", that is the country they want back...
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Jimmi the Grey Thu, Jan 19, 2012 11:17:47pm |
re: #6 freetoken
Let's start there. [...] In fact, I think I can make a better case for the Biblical creation account being empirical, and if not empirical at least reasonable, than Scott can for the theory of evolution.
"We don't know what happened 10 million years ago. We don't know what happened 100 million years ago. It's all theory."
Umm...now granted it's been awhile since I browsed the Old Testament, but I seem to recall that exsistence hasn't been around that long according to the book of Genesis. O_o
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OhCrapIHaveACrushOnSarahPalin Thu, Jan 19, 2012 11:19:23pm |
re: #53 ProLifeLiberal
For the record, this is Cid Highwind:
He swears...a little bit.
Edit: Why won't the link set in properly?
re: #50 Dark_Falcon
I'll try. When I feel isolated in the real world, I tend to react like a cornered badger. Add the stress otherwise, and I become like a cornered wolverine.
Not worth it, getting yourself worked up or in worse trouble, over socon garbage.
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AK-47% Thu, Jan 19, 2012 11:20:34pm |
re: #73 Jimmi the Grey
Umm...now granted it's been awhile since I browsed the Old Testament, but I seem to recall that exsistence hasn't been around that long according to the book of Genesis. O_o
If you feel compelled to take the Bible literally, then you must reject Evolution. If you are open-minded to see the Bible allegorically, then there is room for Evolution.
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Kragar Thu, Jan 19, 2012 11:21:53pm |
re: #73 Jimmi the Grey
Umm...now granted it's been awhile since I browsed the Old Testament, but I seem to recall that exsistence hasn't been around that long according to the book of Genesis. O_o
Sumerians Look On In Confusion As God Creates World
According to recently excavated clay tablets inscribed with cuneiform script, thousands of Sumerians—the first humans to establish systems of writing, agriculture, and government—were working on their sophisticated irrigation systems when the Father of All Creation reached down from the ether and blew the divine spirit of life into their thriving civilization.
"I do not understand," reads an ancient line of pictographs depicting the sun, the moon, water, and a Sumerian who appears to be scratching his head. "A booming voice is saying, 'Let there be light,' but there is already light. It is saying, 'Let the earth bring forth grass,' but I am already standing on grass."
"Everything is here already," the pictograph continues. "We do not need more stars."
Historians believe that, immediately following the biblical event, Sumerian witnesses returned to the city of Eridu, a bustling metropolis built 1,500 years before God called for the appearance of dry land, to discuss the new development. According to records, Sumerian farmers, priests, and civic administrators were not only befuddled, but also took issue with the face of God moving across the water, saying that He scared away those who were traveling to Mesopotamia to participate in their vast and intricate trade system.
Moreover, the Sumerians were taken aback by the creation of the same animals and herb-yielding seeds that they had been domesticating and cultivating for hundreds of generations.
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Jimmi the Grey Thu, Jan 19, 2012 11:30:19pm |
re: #76 Kragar (Proud to be Kafir)
Caught that Onion piece the other day. Good stuff.
re: #75 ralphieboy
I'm actually open minded enough to believe I have no clue as to the force/intelligence/series-of-random-occurrences that caused everything to work out the way it has. But I've seen a lot of good evidence showing me how it went about getting this way.
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Shiplord Kirel Thu, Jan 19, 2012 11:32:59pm |
Gingrich is probably the most intelligent person in the Republican field, which is a bit like being the leper with the most fingers. He is also an utterly amoral and corrupt individual with no redeeming virtues unless you're paying him to abuse, deceive, and cheat people. I have heard certain misguided Democrats compare him to Nixon in that respect. That analogy is completely unfair, unfair to Nixon that is. Nixon was married to the same woman for 43 years. He died less than a year after she did. Liberals today sometimes forget that Nixon created the EPA and proposed a health care plan that was not substantially different from Obama's, both complete anathema to today's GOP.
Nixon was a true Machiavellian genius in foreign affairs, which no current Republican shows any sign of even trying to be. If Tricky Dick were president today, he would already have been to Tehran. While there, he would have filched the nukes and most of the oil, pilfered the palace silverware, and left Ahmedinejad happy and pleased to have been of service.
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AK-47% Thu, Jan 19, 2012 11:45:38pm |
re: #77 Jimmi the Grey
Caught that Onion piece the other day. Good stuff.
re: #75 ralphieboy
I'm actually open minded enough to believe I have no clue as to the force/intelligence/series-of-random-occurrences that caused everything to work out the way it has. But I've seen a lot of good evidence showing me how it went about getting this way.
Godless Heathen!!!
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Kragar Thu, Jan 19, 2012 11:52:26pm |
re: #78 Shiplord Kirel
Gingrich is probably the most intelligent person in the Republican field, which is a bit like being the leper with the most fingers. He is also an utterly amoral and corrupt individual with no redeeming virtues unless you're paying him to abuse, deceive, and cheat people. I have heard certain misguided Democrats compare him to Nixon in that respect. That analogy is completely unfair, unfair to Nixon that is. Nixon was married to the same woman for 43 years. He died less than a year after she did. Liberals today sometimes forget that Nixon created the EPA and proposed a health care plan that was not substantially different from Obama's, both complete anathema to today's GOP.
Nixon was a true Machiavellian genius in foreign affairs, which no current Republican shows any sign of even trying to be. If Tricky Dick were president today, he would already have been to Tehran. While there, he would have filched the nukes and most of the oil, pilfered the palace silverware, and left Ahmedinejad happy and pleased to have been of service.
If Watergate had never happened, Nixon would probably be remembered as one of our better Presidents
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Jimmi the Grey Thu, Jan 19, 2012 11:52:31pm |
re: #79 ralphieboy
Godless Heathen!!!
///
Precisely why I don't let my friend in Memphis or my friend in Kansas City talk me into moving there from my liberal heaven of Oregon. I would not do well in JesusLand.
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engineer cat Fri, Jan 20, 2012 12:00:35am |
re: #78 Shiplord Kirel
well, i mostly agree. even with all the hostility that nixon had generated by the time he became president, mostly because of his blatant red baiting campaign tactics and hostile relationships with reporters and other people, his rapprochements with "red" china and the ussr met with universal approval
i always say that his worst problem was that he was emotionally unfit to be president
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Dark_Falcon Fri, Jan 20, 2012 12:09:55am |
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engineer cat Fri, Jan 20, 2012 12:24:13am |
tap tap tap is this thing on?
...debate nites always lead to comment fatigue...
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boxhead Fri, Jan 20, 2012 12:54:56am |
damn... not bad at all Pres.... now if he can do Al Green's voice in debates, he would smash them. Maybe he could reach the brown note. That would be awesome!
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boxhead Fri, Jan 20, 2012 1:41:36am |
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Obdicut Fri, Jan 20, 2012 3:10:29am |
[Link: www.courthousenews.com...]
A salesman who went to a customer's home to give him an estimate for a security system claims the man didn't like the contract, lunged at him with a fork, bit off part of his ear and broke 10 of his ribs before "three deputies and two Tasers" managed to pull him off.
Yaqub Bham sued David Nienberg in Harris County Court.
Bham says his employer, nonparty ADT, sent him to Nienberg's home on Dec. 14, 2011."Nienberg became angry while reviewing the contract for a security system. When Bham offered to change the contract or draw up another one, Nienberg took Bham's backpack with his vehicle keys in it, and refused to surrender it," according to the complaint.
It continues: "Nienberg then lunged at Bham with a fork. Nienberg's relatives took the fork away, but Nienberg nevertheless managed to get Bham in a choke hold, beat him, and bite him.
"Even after police arrived at his residence, Nienberg refused to let go of Bham. Ultimately, it took three deputies and two Tasers to pull Nienberg off of Bham.
"As a result of the attack, a portion of Bham's ear was bitten off by Nienberg, and he broke 10 ribs."
Anyone seen FBV this morning? Does he have both his ears?
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Jan 20, 2012 3:38:48am |
re: #91 Obdicut
My wife (after hearing this story) just told me I need to start working out.
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Obdicut Fri, Jan 20, 2012 3:46:31am |
Fucking toner. Would be cheaper to fill up my printer with fine Columbian cocaine.
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Darth Vader Gargoyle Fri, Jan 20, 2012 3:48:17am |
re: #95 Obdicut
Fucking toner. Would be cheaper to fill up my printer with fine Columbian cocaine.
Just buy a new printer. You'll probably save some money and it comes with toner!
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Jan 20, 2012 3:52:45am |
I'm actually surprised that we don't hear of more salespeople being attacked in homes.
I know people who do this who are close to verbally abusive.
I know people who will pull shenanagans with a contract...
Just takes the wrong customer (or right one depending upon perspective) to snap.
I had a customer a few weeks ago tell me flat out, "I don't believe you." It kind of hurt my feelings, but I laughed at him and said, "Of course you don't. I wouldn't believe such a handsome, smooth-talker either."
He chuckled, I proved what I was saying, they purchased my stuff.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Jan 20, 2012 3:53:47am |
re: #95 Obdicut
Fucking toner. Would be cheaper to fill up my printer with fine Columbian cocaine.
I have a Brother fax/copier/scanner... 40.00 for toner every year (the cartridge at staples is over a hundred bucks, I go to the refill guy.)
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Obdicut Fri, Jan 20, 2012 3:55:43am |
re: #98 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I have a Brother fax/copier/scanner... 40.00 for toner every year (the cartridge at staples is over a hundred bucks, I go to the refill guy.
I should have got it done on the cheap like that, but I just kept putting it off and now I'm running off to Staples at 7:00 in the morning like a big jackass and paying $80.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Jan 20, 2012 3:57:21am |
re: #99 Obdicut
I should have got it done on the cheap like that, but I just kept putting it off and now I'm running off to Staples at 7:00 in the morning like a big jackass and paying $80.
"The printer ran out of toner" is the new "The dog ate my homework."
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Jan 20, 2012 4:06:02am |
re: #97 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
By the way, that was not meant to be an assumption that the salesperson from the story was crooked.
The customer sounded deranged.
The ethnicity of the guy (assumption from his name) may have also played into the customer's attack on him. We have folks of different races who go into houses. I hear stories of racism (in every direction imaginable).
One lady I work with (she's black) had a customer say (I shit you not),
"So, are you staying in town tonight? I don't think there is a hotel on the black side of town."
She replied, "Yes, I am staying in town. But I have to stay in one of the white hotels."
They did not get her sarcasm.
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Darth Vader Gargoyle Fri, Jan 20, 2012 4:10:49am |
I'm interviewing for my next job on the OSD staff. Some good indicators:
My potential boss's boss wants to meet for a drink at the Irish pub near the Pentagon.
He is a graduate of Virginia Tech (me too)
He is a graduate of ICAF (I hope to be in June)
Here's hoping...
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Jan 20, 2012 4:19:18am |
Obama has a higher singing voice than I imagined.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Jan 20, 2012 4:20:06am |
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Darth Vader Gargoyle Fri, Jan 20, 2012 4:21:03am |
re: #104 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Are you both in the Navy?
heh
He is a big wig Assistant Deputy Under Secretary of Defense. Never been in the military but spent his first 15 or so working on Navy projects...
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Jan 20, 2012 4:23:10am |
re: #105 rwdflynavy
He is a big wig Assistant Deputy Under Secretary of Defense. Never been in the military but spent his first 15 or so working on Navy projects...
So for the purposes of a job interview... Yes!
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Obdicut Fri, Jan 20, 2012 4:23:44am |
re: #105 rwdflynavy
He is a big wig Assistant Deputy Under Secretary of Defense. Never been in the military but spent his first 15 or so working on Navy projects...
So you're having lunch with Teddy Roosevelt?
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Darth Vader Gargoyle Fri, Jan 20, 2012 4:25:32am |
re: #107 Obdicut
So you're having lunch with Teddy Roosevelt?
If he ever lead a charge up San Juan hill it ain't in his bio..
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Jan 20, 2012 4:26:23am |
re: #107 Obdicut
So you're having lunch with Teddy Roosevelt?
I hope not. I hear that before you are allowed to have a meeting with him you have to grow a handle-bar mustache and you have to rassel with him for a half hour naked in a half-frozen creek.
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Our Precious Bodily Fluids Fri, Jan 20, 2012 4:29:04am |
re: #102 rwdflynavy
My potential boss's boss wants to meet for a drink at the Irish pub near the Pentagon.
A lot of military sci-fi movies start this way. They're going to tell you something about alien technology and/or a mysterious disease outbreak, and right as they get to the scary part, you're going to start to feel woozy. As you start to go dark, you realize they put something in your drink. You wake up days later in a shack somewhere on a tropical island / the Middle East / Siberia with nothing but a radio and The Artifact to guide you.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Jan 20, 2012 4:30:38am |
Some fiber cereals should come with a warning label.
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Shropshire_Slasher Fri, Jan 20, 2012 4:31:51am |
re: #112 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
For whom? Co-workers?
I blame it on the dog.
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Darth Vader Gargoyle Fri, Jan 20, 2012 4:33:10am |
re: #112 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Some fiber cereals should come with a warning label.
I loved the old Colon-Blow commercial on SNL
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Jan 20, 2012 4:33:17am |
re: #111 negativ
Or rather than sci-fi, intrigue... he feels woosy... realizes he's been poisoned and hands you a briefcase and says, "You must get this MacGuffin to Washington!"
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Darth Vader Gargoyle Fri, Jan 20, 2012 4:33:56am |
re: #109 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I hope not. I hear that before you are allowed to have a meeting with him you have to grow a handle-bar mustache and you have to rassel with him for a half hour naked in a half-frozen creek.
I've worked in the Pentagon twice already. I've done much more distateful things than that!!
//
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Jan 20, 2012 4:34:09am |
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Jan 20, 2012 4:36:09am |
Sara Burke's death reminds me how bat-shit crazy/brave the X Games athletes are. That is very sad.
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Darth Vader Gargoyle Fri, Jan 20, 2012 4:36:15am |
re: #117 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Stuff should be called "Fiber Explosion".
I'm just sayin'...
may cause abdominal distention, consult a physician...
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Darth Vader Gargoyle Fri, Jan 20, 2012 4:37:51am |
Running over the the library, be right back.
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Obdicut Fri, Jan 20, 2012 4:38:54am |
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Jan 20, 2012 4:42:08am |
[Link: video.search.yahoo.com...]
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Jan 20, 2012 4:53:29am |
Very funny line from Big Bang Theory last night.
"Live long and suck it, Zachery Quinto!"
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Obdicut Fri, Jan 20, 2012 4:55:16am |
I'm watching an anti-drug ad has some killer music that makes me want to do drugs.
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Darth Vader Gargoyle Fri, Jan 20, 2012 5:03:32am |
re: #124 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Very funny line from Big Bang Theory last night.
"Live long and suck it, Zachery Quinto!"
I absolutely love that show! When Sheldon gave Amy Farah Fowler a tiara a couple weeks ago, I thought I was going to wet my pants!!
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Jan 20, 2012 5:04:11am |
re: #125 Obdicut
I'm watching an anti-drug ad has some killer music that makes me want to do drugs.
I swear, Obdi... I heard Bill Hicks' voice saying that in my head as I read it.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Jan 20, 2012 5:05:22am |
re: #126 rwdflynavy
It was pre-empted last night by the UVA game, so they showed it at 1:38am this morning.
Loves me some DVR.
White people problems.
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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Fri, Jan 20, 2012 5:08:27am |
re: #36 aagcobb
Found out tonight that Newt's middle name is Leroy. Its the only thing I like about him.
Great. Now I have a visual of Newt sprinting into the next debate shouting "Leeroooy Ginnnngricch!!".
Good morning Lizards.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Fri, Jan 20, 2012 5:11:56am |
re: #125 Obdicut
I'm watching an anti-drug ad has some killer music that makes me want to do drugs.
linky?
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Darth Vader Gargoyle Fri, Jan 20, 2012 5:20:05am |
re: #128 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
It was pre-empted last night by the UVA game, so they showed it at 1:38am this morning.
Loves me some DVR.
DVR is like high speed internet. Once you have one you never want to give it up.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Jan 20, 2012 5:24:21am |
re: #131 rwdflynavy
I didn't know that it had been pre-empted, ran upstairs (only one system with DVR, [more white people problems] and saw the game was on.
Saw a friend post on FB that he had to wake up at 1:38 to watch it.
He's a total BBT Fanboy. I love the show, but I'll be damned if I'm doing that.
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JRCMYP Fri, Jan 20, 2012 5:25:19am |
Thanks for posting that Charles. One of the things that I appreciate about Obama is that he laughs at his own jokes. Underneath the "No drama Obama" I suspect is a complete and utter goofball.
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Darth Vader Gargoyle Fri, Jan 20, 2012 5:25:29am |
re: #132 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I didn't know that it had been pre-empted, ran upstairs (only one system with DVR, [more white people problems] and saw the game was on.
Saw a friend post on FB that he had to wake up at 1:38 to watch it.
He's a total BBT Fanboy. I love the show, but I'll be damned if I'm doing that.
I set it to tape on the DVR. I didn't know it had been pre-empted, wonder if it still taped...
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Jan 20, 2012 5:29:21am |
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Obdicut Fri, Jan 20, 2012 5:29:55am |
re: #130 Sergey Romanov
It streamed past on hulu.
The ads on Hulu are freaking hilarious in their targeting. I get also assaulted with policy ads pleading me to support drug courts-- which I do-- but the guys who are the spokespeople are all rockstars and either obvious or admitted drug fiends. Rehabilitated maybe, but certainly an odd choice of spokesperson.
Tell me that ain't trippy shit.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Fri, Jan 20, 2012 5:31:35am |
re: #136 Obdicut
Well, you posted the ad here. It works.
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Obdicut Fri, Jan 20, 2012 5:32:24am |
re: #137 Sergey Romanov
I can't find the anti-drug ad, but yeah, that one is a classic.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Jan 20, 2012 5:33:11am |
re: #133 JRCMYP
Thanks for posting that Charles. One of the things that I appreciate about Obama is that he laughs at his own jokes. Underneath the "No drama Obama" I suspect is a complete and utter goofball.
I think that he can laugh at himself; but he strikes me as a "the most serious president since Nixon".
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Obdicut Fri, Jan 20, 2012 5:34:42am |
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Fri, Jan 20, 2012 5:35:47am |
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Our Precious Bodily Fluids Fri, Jan 20, 2012 5:43:26am |
re: #141 Sergey Romanov
Trying to imagine how that squirrel would look in anti-Krokodil ads...
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Fri, Jan 20, 2012 5:45:48am |
re: #142 negativ
Trying to imagine how that squirrel would look in anti-Krokodil ads...
It's alchohol-specific though. Delirium tremens = belaya goryachka = belochka = belka = squirrel.
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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Fri, Jan 20, 2012 6:05:41am |
re: #143 Sergey Romanov
It's alchohol-specific though. Delirium tremens = belaya goryachka = belochka = belka = squirrel.
Given that squirrels are sort of jittery that makes sense visually as well.
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Petero1818 Fri, Jan 20, 2012 6:12:16am |
OT: In all the hoopla over Newt's alleged home run last night attacking the media for bringing up his open marriage proposal in the run up to the primary, I found the following article to be particularly interesting as it pegs Newt as the architect of a multi-million dollar campaign run a week prior to the Election which focussed on nothing more than the Clinton - Lewinsky affair.
[Link: www.washingtonpost.com...]
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Petero1818 Fri, Jan 20, 2012 6:14:14am |
By the way, I just realized that this whole open marriage thing is merely evidence for Newt's profound love of his ex wife. He loved her so much he proposed marriage twice. Once regular, and once open style.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Fri, Jan 20, 2012 6:15:08am |
re: #146 Petero1818
By the way, I just realized that this whole open marriage thing is merely evidence for Newt's profound love of his ex wife. He loved her so much he proposed marriage twice. Once regular, and once open style.
He probably meant good old biblical polygamy.
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Petero1818 Fri, Jan 20, 2012 6:22:21am |
I think someone's Pac should run an ad in Florida that shows how Newt keeps trading in older wives for younger models as he gets older. I would think that might touch a nerve with the older women in Florida. Perhaps with the conclusion that with a President Gingrich, America might find itself in a similar predicament when Newt throws America under the bus in favor of a new and hotter country, like say, Turks & Caicos.
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Killgore Trout Fri, Jan 20, 2012 6:23:20am |
Top of the Rec List at Dkos....
Occupy movement goes to Harlem, screws up completely.
Protesters broadcast their anger with signs and jeers, including Bob Nash, who came to protest from Cold Spring Harbor with a sign criticizing Obama for his relationship with Wall Street.
“Wall Street has been bailed out and the American people have been sold out because of Obama,” he said.Others sang, “Obama is a Nazi.”
Passersby said they were angered by the protesters’ presence. One group of four encouraged protesters with signs to “use that shit for toilet paper.”
“They have a right to protest, but not to classify him as a Hitler,” Harlem resident Wesley Ward said. “He came in when the seat was hot. He ain’t kill nobody like Hitler did.”
This is what happens when you go from being a 99% movement channeling the broadly accepted views of the American people to just another leftwing white liberal bitchfest.
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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Fri, Jan 20, 2012 6:34:45am |
re: #145 Petero1818
OT: In all the hoopla over Newt's alleged home run last night attacking the media for bringing up his open marriage proposal in the run up to the primary, I found the following article to be particularly interesting as it pegs Newt as the architect of a multi-million dollar campaign run a week prior to the Election which focussed on nothing more than the Clinton - Lewinsky affair.
[Link: www.washingtonpost.com...]
Given Newt's unhappiness with the media can I have a pipedream that he and the media agree to a trial separation and *all* the media will thus ignore Newt totally for the next 12 months?
We can call it the "Huntsman Treatment".
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Gretchen G.Tiger Fri, Jan 20, 2012 6:36:04am |
Morning all!
Brat Puppy is 1 year old today.
How are you-all?
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Gretchen G.Tiger Fri, Jan 20, 2012 6:37:01am |
re: #148 Petero1818
I think someone's Pac should run an ad in Florida that shows how Newt keeps trading in older wives for younger models as he gets older. I would think that might touch a nerve with the older women in Florida. Perhaps with the conclusion that with a President Gingrich, America might find itself in a similar predicament when Newt throws America under the bus in favor of a new and hotter country, like say, Turks & Caicos.
Newt is is a fat, pompous hypocrite.
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Daniel Ballard Fri, Jan 20, 2012 6:37:37am |
re: #151 ggt
Morning all!
Brat Puppy is 1 year old today.
How are you-all?
Happy Friday!
& virtual puppy treats for the bday doggie.
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Decatur Deb Fri, Jan 20, 2012 6:39:08am |
re: #149 Killgore Trout
Top of the Rec List at Dkos...
Occupy movement goes to Harlem, screws up completely.This is what happens when you go from being a 99% movement channeling the broadly accepted views of the American people to just another leftwing white liberal bitchfest.
Electoral math--Obama loses .01 percent of his base, picks up .5 percent of the independant moderates.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Fri, Jan 20, 2012 6:39:18am |
re: #153 Rightwingconspirator
Happy Friday!
& virtual puppy treats for the bday doggie.
Brat Puppy says "num, crunch, gulp!"
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sattv4u2 Fri, Jan 20, 2012 6:39:24am |
re: #151 ggt
Morning all!
Brat Puppy is 1 year old today.
How are you-all?
Happy Birthday, Brat
Einstein and McDuff send a virtual butt sniff!
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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Fri, Jan 20, 2012 6:41:12am |
re: #151 ggt
Morning all!
Brat Puppy is 1 year old today.
How are you-all?
Is Brat Puppy now a permanent title, or will there be graduation to Brat Dog?
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Killgore Trout Fri, Jan 20, 2012 6:41:16am |
re: #154 Decatur Deb
Electoral math--Obama loses .01 percent of his base, picks up .5 percent of the independant moderates.
I think Obama played it pretty well. He's given some lip service to OWS but has kept his distance. Smart move.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Fri, Jan 20, 2012 6:42:33am |
re: #157 oaktree
Is Brat Puppy now a permanent title, or will there be graduation to Brat Dog?
He'll probably retain the Puppy surname until another little one magically appears in the household. Old Man Dog is only 8, so it will probably be a while. I have a 3 dog limit.
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sattv4u2 Fri, Jan 20, 2012 6:42:51am |
re: #158 Killgore Trout
I think Obama played it pretty well. He's given some lip service to OWS but has kept his distance. Smart move.
Others sang, “Obama is a Nazi.”
I guess some weren't satisfied with the lip service only approach!
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Daniel Ballard Fri, Jan 20, 2012 6:43:10am |
re: #158 Killgore Trout
Too bad they went astray. All they had to do was stay on the economic injustice and corporate excess message which was quite valuable. Now it's just a herd of bitching fools.
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Decatur Deb Fri, Jan 20, 2012 6:44:21am |
re: #161 Rightwingconspirator
Too bad they went stray. All they had to do was stay on the economic injustice and corporate excess message which was quite valuable. Now it's just a herd of bitching fools.
Mobs can be handy, but they don't have an off switch. The Robespierre Effect.
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Gretchen G.Tiger Fri, Jan 20, 2012 6:46:32am |
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Jan 20, 2012 6:47:12am |
re: #163 sattv4u2
I'm more nervous about what Obdi posted upthread.
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sattv4u2 Fri, Jan 20, 2012 6:47:48am |
re: #165 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I'm more nervous about what Obdi posted upthread.
ggeeeezzzz,,, now you're going to make me scroll back and guess which post you're talking about?
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Gretchen G.Tiger Fri, Jan 20, 2012 6:48:51am |
The owners of Brat Puppy's littermates are sending e-birthday wishes with pictures of each Pup as they look now.
awwwwww!
It's amazing how different they all look.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Jan 20, 2012 6:50:04am |
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Gretchen G.Tiger Fri, Jan 20, 2012 6:50:05am |
I actually watched part of the debate last night. I concluded that Newt is living in his own, special, reality.
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Killgore Trout Fri, Jan 20, 2012 6:50:31am |
re: #161 Rightwingconspirator
Too bad they went stray. All they had to do was stay on the economic injustice and corporate excess message which was quite valuable. Now it's just a herd of bitching fools.
I still think it would have been tough even if they did stay on the economic message. The 99%/class warfare focus might have kept the left on board but I quickly became uncomfortable with the mob mentality taking these themes too far. For example, in DC they started blocking streets and only allowing shitty cars to pass. Expensive cars were blocked.
It's really hard to argue against raising taxes on the rich but demonizing a small segment of the population gets creepy really quick.
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RogueOne Fri, Jan 20, 2012 6:50:31am |
re: #166 Lidane
Breaking: Harry Reid Cancels Senate Debate Over Protect IP Act
I don't think they were expecting all this heat. They're going to regroup and try to figure out how to get it passed and keep their jobs at the same time.
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Interesting Times Fri, Jan 20, 2012 6:50:37am |
canadiancynic CC
Don't play with your food! All right, then ... i.imgur.com/okozS.jpg
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sattv4u2 Fri, Jan 20, 2012 6:52:31am |
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Gretchen G.Tiger Fri, Jan 20, 2012 6:52:58am |
re: #177 sattv4u2
Nope
4 leopards and 2 gazelles voting on what to have for lunch!
the gazelles really get a vote?
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sattv4u2 Fri, Jan 20, 2012 6:53:18am |
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Petero1818 Fri, Jan 20, 2012 6:53:21am |
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Gretchen G.Tiger Fri, Jan 20, 2012 6:53:42am |
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Lidane Fri, Jan 20, 2012 6:55:08am |
re: #173 RogueOne
I don't think they were expecting all this heat. They're going to regroup and try to figure out how to get it passed and keep their jobs at the same time.
When major sites like Google and Wikipedia are protesting and bringing attention to the issue, people are going to notice.
I hope that both PIPA and SOPA go down in flames. Shame on the legislators who support it, no matter what letter is after their name.
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sattv4u2 Fri, Jan 20, 2012 6:55:17am |
re: #172 Killgore Trout
they started blocking streets and only allowing shitty cars to pass. Expensive cars were blocked.
"Raise your arms and twinkle your fingers of you think this car is shitty enough to pass"
"Raise your arms and twinkle your fingers of you think this car is shitty enough to pass"
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RogueOne Fri, Jan 20, 2012 6:55:31am |
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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Fri, Jan 20, 2012 6:55:55am |
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Jan 20, 2012 6:56:14am |
re: #163 sattv4u2
Imagine calling in "fat" to work.
"Hey, boss. You remember that I was fat yesterday? Well... uh... today? I'm kind of ... fatter... I can't fit through the door of my house. Uh... nooot gonna be able to make it in."
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sattv4u2 Fri, Jan 20, 2012 6:57:36am |
re: #188 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Imagine calling in "fat" to work.
"Hey, boss. You remember that I was fat yesterday? Well... uh... today? I'm kind of ... fatter... I can't fit through the door of my house. Uh... nooot gonna be able to make it in."
"And ,,umm,, can you have someone bring me my Twinkie stash from my locker"
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Jan 20, 2012 6:58:26am |
re: #187 oaktree
What protects one from the Secondhand Lions Treatment?
(Besides bringing a skeet machine.)
Nothing. Nothing at all.
People thought that was a funny sequence.
Scared the poop out of me.
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Decatur Deb Fri, Jan 20, 2012 6:59:34am |
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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Fri, Jan 20, 2012 7:00:13am |
re: #184 Lidane
When major sites like Google and Wikipedia are protesting and bringing attention to the issue, people are going to notice.
I hope that both PIPA and SOPA go down in flames. Shame on the legislators who support it, no matter what letter is after their name.
Dear CongressCritters,
Your lobbyists telling you that PIPA and SOPA are good for the American people and thus won't be opposed and will help your reelection chances are only representing one side of the issue. Knowledge is not evil, it's simply a tool in helping you make an informed decision. Learn something before voting on these bills beyond the the numbers on those contribution checks.
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NJDhockeyfan Fri, Jan 20, 2012 7:00:59am |
Unions give hints of Super Bowl ruckus
INDIANAPOLIS – As the dysfunction in the Indiana House dragged on Thursday, worries over a Super Bowl protest began to rise.
Indiana is set to host one of the sporting world’s biggest events on Feb. 5.
Some think Democrats fighting a controversial labor bill are trying to drag out the debate until then so protests about the issue get maximum publicity.
Teamsters at the Indiana Statehouse on Thursday wore shirts with Super Bowl XLVI circled and crossed out. And a familiar chant this week from union supporters was “Occupy Super Bowl.”
Fears of picket lines, manufactured traffic snarls and other protests are floating around the building. NFL Players Association Executive Director Demaurice Smith said in a national interview this week that players could participate in protests if it helps raise the level of the debate.
GOP House Speaker Brian Bosma said it’s unfortunate that the threats against the Super Bowl are getting specific and real.
“One of the things that’s concerned me about the entire atmosphere that has been created here is it’s an atmosphere of threat and intimidation,” he said. “It’s not the best place to try to make law, but we won’t be intimidated out of doing what people think is right.”
Senate President Pro Tem David Long, R-Fort Wayne, said it would be a shame for Democrats to allow their supporters “to interfere with the biggest event that’s ever hit Indianapolis or the state of Indiana.”
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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Fri, Jan 20, 2012 7:03:57am |
re: #189 sattv4u2
"And ,,umm,, can you have someone bring me my Twinkie stash from my locker"
(Hartmann)
Are you allowed to have food in the barracks Pvt Pyle?
(/Hartmann)
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sattv4u2 Fri, Jan 20, 2012 7:03:59am |
re: #192 Decatur Deb
They vote with their hooves.
Or as the leopards call them,, after dinner floss!
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Lidane Fri, Jan 20, 2012 7:05:09am |
re: #193 oaktree
Since my MBA program centers on digital media, we've been talking about SOPA and PIPA a lot this week. It's unavoidable, especially since we spent an entire course talking about Digital Law, and copyright in particular.
One of the profs tagged both bills as a back-door attempt at passing ACTA as legislation. I think he might be on to something.
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NJDhockeyfan Fri, Jan 20, 2012 7:06:35am |
Hamas bans singing competition in Gaza
JERUSALEM (AP) - Organizers of the Palestinian version of "American Idol" said Thursday the Gaza Strip's Hamas rulers have banned residents from participating in the popular reality show.
The organizers said Hamas told them the program is "indecent," in what appears to be a new attempt by the fundamentalist militant Muslim group to crack down on behavior it sees as contrary to its conservative interpretation of Islam.
In the past, Hamas has banned women from riding on the backs of motorbikes, women from smoking water pipes, and men from working in hair salons _ saying such practices were immodest. Not all bans are imposed uniformly.
The ban on competing in New Star came around the same time that Hamas police beat up members of Gaza's tiny Shiite minority while they tried to hold a religious ceremony.
Alaa al-Abed, the chief producer of the "New Star" program, said the edict would prevent Gaza's 12 contestants from competing in the upcoming second round of the competition Thursday night. It will be broadcast next month. He said he was informed of the decision last Saturday.
"This is more serious than Hamas just killing fun in Gaza _ they are limiting the freedoms of the people, according to their whims," al-Abed said.
There was no official comment from Hamas.
Is it also more serious than killing Israelis?
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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Fri, Jan 20, 2012 7:06:41am |
re: #196 sattv4u2
Or as the leopards call them,, after dinner floss!
Hehe. Reminds me of the neat little science thing in North America where someone looked at how antelope were massively faster than any existing predator and made the hypothesis that there had been a fast predator about that went extinct. An lo and behold fossil cheetah eventually turned up.
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NJDhockeyfan Fri, Jan 20, 2012 7:09:27am |
That was quick, I gotta run, work is calling again :)
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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Fri, Jan 20, 2012 7:13:32am |
re: #197 Lidane
Since my MBA program centers on digital media, we've been talking about SOPA and PIPA a lot this week. It's unavoidable, especially since we spent an entire course talking about Digital Law, and copyright in particular.
One of the profs tagged both bills as a back-door attempt at passing ACTA as legislation. I think he might be on to something.
That is sort of chilling. And without India and China signing onto it the enforcement via border crossing thing is going to run strong. Plus the constant thorn of privacy violations in the name of national security.
Nothing like another arbitrary search and potentially destroy process to worry about. (This is one reason I avoid taking my personal laptop overseas. Not that there is pirated material on it, but it's far too easy for a claim to be made that there is a violation and then having it seized.)
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Sheila Broflovski Fri, Jan 20, 2012 7:15:14am |
re: #172 Killgore Trout
I still think it would have been tough even if they did stay on the economic message. The 99%/class warfare focus might have kept the left on board but I quickly became uncomfortable with the mob mentality taking these themes too far. For example, in DC they started blocking streets and only allowing shitty cars to pass. Expensive cars were blocked.
It's really hard to argue against raising taxes on the rich but demonizing a small segment of the population gets creepy really quick.
Well, we have two new cars but they are low-end models, would we be allowed to pass or would they smash a headlamp or two?
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BishopX Fri, Jan 20, 2012 7:16:38am |
re: #201 oaktree
The US already claims unlimited rights to search and/or image your hard drives if you cross a national border. ACTA and SOPA/PIPA aren't going to change that.
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Killgore Trout Fri, Jan 20, 2012 7:16:57am |
re: #202 Alouette
Well, we have two new cars but they are low-end models, would we be allowed to pass or would they smash a headlamp or two?
It's hard to tell, from the videos I saw the process was pretty arbitrary.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Jan 20, 2012 7:18:02am |
re: #204 Killgore Trout
He's wearing a fifty dollar tie! BURN HIM!
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prairiefire Fri, Jan 20, 2012 7:18:58am |
He has got to be the dag gum sexiest president ever.
Ev ~er.
Sheesh, Al Green. It's like shooting fish in a barrel.
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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Fri, Jan 20, 2012 7:19:29am |
re: #203 BishopX
The US already claims unlimited rights to search and/or image your hard drives if you cross a national border. ACTA and SOPA/PIPA aren't going to change that.
I do suspect they will have a chilling effect on ISP activity across borders. And since my internet access from work goes from here to Brazil to get out and then back to the US to look at LGF I expect it would get even slower. :(
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Jan 20, 2012 7:21:01am |
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Fri, Jan 20, 2012 7:23:20am |
Morning Lizardim. Happy Friday from the snowy wild north country. Temperatures are still bitterly cold, which means the snow should be dry and powdery, and thus easy to manage. At least, that's the hope.
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prairiefire Fri, Jan 20, 2012 7:24:34am |
re: #208 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
You are completely forgetting Millard Fillmore.
Mmmm... Mmmmillard...
Well, I do like a hawk nosed man.
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iossarian Fri, Jan 20, 2012 7:27:14am |
re: #208 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
You are completely forgetting Millard Fillmore.
Mmmm... Mmmmillard...
Fillmore - great porn name.
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prairiefire Fri, Jan 20, 2012 7:30:32am |
My transmission is going out in my van this morning. When I put it in drive, it almost can't do it. The TCE(?) light came on in and the D light was blinking.
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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Fri, Jan 20, 2012 7:32:32am |
re: #209 thedopefishlives
Morning Lizardim. Happy Friday from the snowy wild north country. Temperatures are still bitterly cold, which means the snow should be dry and powdery, and thus easy to manage. At least, that's the hope.
Hovering around freezing here in Philly. Supposed to snow and then sleet/ice pellets overnight. Then rain by Monday.
I'd rather have the powder snow and the bitter cold.
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Decatur Deb Fri, Jan 20, 2012 7:34:38am |
re: #213 prairiefire
My transmission is going out in my van this morning. When I put it in drive, it almost can't do it. The TCE(?) light came on in and the D light was blinking.
Cheap fixes first. Check the transmission fluid level, after reading the procedure in the manual. (It's not linear).
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Fri, Jan 20, 2012 7:38:06am |
re: #214 oaktree
Hovering around freezing here in Philly. Supposed to snow and then sleet/ice pellets overnight. Then rain by Monday.
I'd rather have the powder snow and the bitter cold.
Me too. Although I did choose to work from home and sit this round out. It's supposed to be a bit heavier than our other snows thus far this year.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Jan 20, 2012 7:38:19am |
re: #214 oaktree
Hovering around freezing here in Philly. Supposed to snow and then sleet/ice pellets overnight. Then rain by Monday.
I'd rather have the powder snow and the bitter cold.
Could be worse. You could be in the Northwest. Nasty-brrr-icky-danger.
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prairiefire Fri, Jan 20, 2012 7:46:42am |
re: #215 Decatur Deb
We are going to take it in tomorrow morning. It has 119,000 miles on it.
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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Fri, Jan 20, 2012 7:51:47am |
re: #217 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Could be worse. You could be in the Northwest. Nasty-brrr-icky-danger.
Bad enough that the Pacific Northwest tree octopus are coming down to look for warm spots?
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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Fri, Jan 20, 2012 7:58:34am |
re: #218 prairiefire
We are going to take it in tomorrow morning. It has 119,000 miles on it.
My Forrester just got past 85,000 miles. I'll have to drive it slower in order to make it last longer.
;)
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HappyWarrior Fri, Jan 20, 2012 7:58:49am |
Not a bad Al Green impression. And a great song too.
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lawhawk Fri, Jan 20, 2012 8:00:18am |
Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. We're finally supposed to get a winter snow around here overnight into tomorrow, so I'm actually looking forward to that (get to try out the new snowblower after all). Meanwhile, the weekend can't come soon enough following one hellacious commute this morning.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Jan 20, 2012 8:01:50am |
re: #220 oaktree
My Forrester just got past 85,000 miles. I'll have to drive it slower in order to make it last longer.
;)
AAAaaaRRRrrrGGGgggHHHhhh!!!
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kirkspencer Fri, Jan 20, 2012 8:08:35am |
re: #197 Lidane
Since my MBA program centers on digital media, we've been talking about SOPA and PIPA a lot this week. It's unavoidable, especially since we spent an entire course talking about Digital Law, and copyright in particular.
One of the profs tagged both bills as a back-door attempt at passing ACTA as legislation. I think he might be on to something.
They - and the DMCA - are also attempts to roll back the first sale doctrine.
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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Fri, Jan 20, 2012 8:08:57am |
re: #223 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
AAAaaaRRRrrrGGGgggHHHhhh!!!
Nothing like bringing in a Lizard in-joke for a giggle on a Friday morning.
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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Fri, Jan 20, 2012 8:10:08am |
Hmm, the Supreme Court just tossed the federal court Texas redistricting map. Back to Square One?
[Link: firstread.msnbc.msn.com...]
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Jan 20, 2012 8:10:24am |
I have 327K on my Highlander. I think I'm going to have to do my first real repair. Wheel bearing.
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Daniel Ballard Fri, Jan 20, 2012 8:12:31am |
re: #172 Killgore Trout
The best message they had was separating wealth from politics. But they failed to stay on target, much as you say. Like Gus pointed out, when they went far lefty and threw down for Bradley manning / Wikileaks they screwed themselves, right there. I have this chapter of the mini doc that I have not released, mostly because turning Lomokino footage into digital is a time consuming monster.
But I'll say this-The footage from the days before and after the eviction shows such a dramatic decline in the whole atmosphere and quality of participation it was a shock. When the deranged can step up and yell mic check ramble and be largely ignored all you have is a camp for the untreated mentally ill. I may find the inclination to finish that. But it won't be kind.
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Killgore Trout Fri, Jan 20, 2012 8:14:03am |
re: #228 Rightwingconspirator
When the deranged can step up and yell mic check ramble and be largely ignored all you have is a camp for the untreated mentally ill. I may find the inclination to finish that. But it won't be kind.
Heh.
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Decatur Deb Fri, Jan 20, 2012 8:15:15am |
re: #227 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I have 327K on my Highlander. I think I'm going to have to do my first real repair. Wheel bearing.
Shade-tree afternoon. It's probably cost effective to do new brakes just because the wheels are off.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Jan 20, 2012 8:16:03am |
re: #228 Rightwingconspirator
From the beginning? I couldn't imagine OWS turning... well... you know... all... uh... BOINNNG!
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Daniel Ballard Fri, Jan 20, 2012 8:17:09am |
re: #229 Killgore Trout
Heh.
I left something out. In your predictions of the arc of Occupy, you were dead on.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Jan 20, 2012 8:18:59am |
re: #230 Decatur Deb
Shade-tree afternoon. It's probably cost effective to do new brakes just because the wheels are off.
I can knock off a brake job in an hour. Never done a wheel bearing. The part's 225.00 labor is 100... think it's worth a hundred bucks to make sure that my wheel doesn't fall off later.
Mechanic cross threaded my lugs the other day, they had to torque them off... I saw them using a crowbar to get the wheel off.
Wonder if they broke my wheel bearing.
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sattv4u2 Fri, Jan 20, 2012 8:19:21am |
re: #228 Rightwingconspirator
But it won't be kind.
Maybe if you set it to dramatic or a comical musical background ,,,,,
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sattv4u2 Fri, Jan 20, 2012 8:20:14am |
re: #233 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Wonder if they broke my wheel bearing.
Thats easy to check
Hit the highway and crank it up to about 100 mph!
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Fri, Jan 20, 2012 8:20:35am |
re: #232 Rightwingconspirator
I left something out. In your predictions of the arc of Occupy, you were dead on.
Making these predictions is easy. Case in point:
There is a danger of more moderate OWSers falling out (as weather gets colder, etc.), and socialist fanatics taking the center stage. Then all the claims about "Marxists" will come true, and this may degenerate into something less than benevolent, not to mention absolutely inefficient.
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Fri, Jan 20, 2012 8:20:41am |
re: #233 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I can knock off a brake job in an hour. Never done a wheel bearing. The part's 225.00 labor is 100... think it's worth a hundred bucks to make sure that my wheel doesn't fall off later.
Mechanic cross threaded my lugs the other day, they had to torque them off... I saw them using a crowbar to get the wheel off.
Wonder if they broke my wheel bearing.
Possibly. Your wheel bearings are probably pressed on, so you may need to set yourself up with a ghetto press.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Jan 20, 2012 8:21:13am |
re: #235 sattv4u2
Wonder if they broke my wheel bearing.
Thats easy to check
Hit the highway and crank it up to about 100 mph!
Oh, no. It's noisy. Wasn't noisy until I got my car back.
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Decatur Deb Fri, Jan 20, 2012 8:22:03am |
re: #233 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I can knock off a brake job in an hour. Never done a wheel bearing. The part's 225.00 labor is 100... think it's worth a hundred bucks to make sure that my wheel doesn't fall off later.
Mechanic cross threaded my lugs the other day, they had to torque them off... I saw them using a crowbar to get the wheel off.
Wonder if they broke my wheel bearing.
Nothing to the bearings, just messy. I got into all of this exactly because a national repair shop left my lugnuts thumb-tight decades ago. It's just self-defense to learn how to do crash-critical work if possible.
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Sheila Broflovski Fri, Jan 20, 2012 8:23:24am |
re: #228 Rightwingconspirator
The best message they had was separating wealth from politics. But they failed to stay on target, much as you say. Like Gus pointed out, when they went far lefty and threw down for Bradley manning / Wikileaks they screwed themselves, right there. I have this chapter of the mini doc that I have not released, mostly because turning Lomokino footage into digital is a time consuming monster.
But I'll say this-The footage from the days before and after the eviction shows such a dramatic decline in the whole atmosphere and quality of participation it was a shock. When the deranged can step up and yell mic check ramble and be largely ignored all you have is a camp for the untreated mentally ill. I may find the inclination to finish that. But it won't be kind.
"Mic check" is just a new word for an old technique of a mob denying free speech rights by drowning out anyone they don't agree with.
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Fri, Jan 20, 2012 8:25:55am |
re: #239 Decatur Deb
Nothing to the bearings, just messy. I got into all of this exactly because a national repair shop left my lugnuts thumb-tight decades ago. It's just self-defense to learn how to do crash-critical work if possible.
I think the only thing that scares me anymore when it comes to mechanical is transmissions. I've also never worked on steering before, but that at least I can do with the car up on jackstands and a good manual. My complete lack of confidence in dropping and rebuilding a transmission is why I had to sell my truck (totally burned up 3rd gear and overdrive).
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Killgore Trout Fri, Jan 20, 2012 8:28:25am |
re: #232 Rightwingconspirator
I left something out. In your predictions of the arc of Occupy, you were dead on.
Thanks, I'm still taking quite a bit of shit over it. It's been a tough time for a lot of us here on LGF.
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Decatur Deb Fri, Jan 20, 2012 8:29:11am |
re: #241 thedopefishlives
I think the only thing that scares me anymore when it comes to mechanical is transmissions. I've also never worked on steering before, but that at least I can do with the car up on jackstands and a good manual. My complete lack of confidence in dropping and rebuilding a transmission is why I had to sell my truck (totally burned up 3rd gear and overdrive).
Wouldn't do an automatic transmission, or one on a new expensive vehicle that I need. I've been all through the transfer case on the Rover, but that's because it's a hobby truck and all the mechanics for a Series III are dead.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Fri, Jan 20, 2012 8:30:50am |
re: #242 Killgore Trout
Thanks, I'm still taking quite a bit of shit over it. It's been a tough time for a lot of us here on LGF.
The only reason you're taking shit is because you made your anti-OWS case in a pretty shitty way. That's all there is to it.
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sattv4u2 Fri, Jan 20, 2012 8:31:21am |
re: #241 thedopefishlives
I think the only thing that scares me anymore when it comes to mechanical is transmissions.
Still brakes for me
If I screw up something in the transmission, more likely than not it won't kill me
If I screw up something in the brakes, more likely than not it will (or kill someone else)
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Daniel Ballard Fri, Jan 20, 2012 8:32:07am |
re: #242 Killgore Trout
Sometimes it's worth it. Why only speak up to agree?
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Fri, Jan 20, 2012 8:32:25am |
re: #245 sattv4u2
I think the only thing that scares me anymore when it comes to mechanical is transmissions.
Still brakes for me
If I screw up something in the transmission, more likely than not it won't kill me
If I screw up something in the brakes, more likely than not it will (or kill someone else)
Eh, I've gone multiple rounds with both drum and disc brakes. It's old hat to me by now.
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Killgore Trout Fri, Jan 20, 2012 8:33:02am |
I will admit that OWS was an interesting experiment. I actually kind of like some of the ideas from the Ad Busters guy. Not everything was without merit. However, it failed on almost every level. There were so many problems with structure, radical organizers, flawed idea of camping in parks, etc. Even if they had stayed on message and kept clear purpose they probably would have failed anyways.
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Decatur Deb Fri, Jan 20, 2012 8:33:25am |
re: #245 sattv4u2
I think the only thing that scares me anymore when it comes to mechanical is transmissions.
Still brakes for me
If I screw up something in the transmission, more likely than not it won't kill me
If I screw up something in the brakes, more likely than not it will (or kill someone else)
I trust myself and a good manual more than a kid with a mail-order mechanic's ticket.
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Jan 20, 2012 8:33:43am |
re: #244 Sergey Romanov
The only reason you're taking shit is because you made your anti-OWS case in a pretty shitty way. That's all there is to it.
I disagree. His "way" was shitty, mostly because people disagreed with him. People were even furious about factual links he made.
He was dead on. (Easy for me to say because I agreed with him from post one.)
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sattv4u2 Fri, Jan 20, 2012 8:35:18am |
re: #249 Decatur Deb
I trust myself and a good manual more than a kid with a mail-order mechanic's ticket.
thats why I make sure my guy is well schooled
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Killgore Trout Fri, Jan 20, 2012 8:36:24am |
re: #250 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I disagree. His "way" was shitty, mostly because people disagreed with him. People were even furious about factual links he made.
He was dead on. (Easy for me to say because I agreed with him from post one.)
I wouldn't have done it any other way. A kinder and gentler approach wouldn't have worked any better or worse.
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BishopX Fri, Jan 20, 2012 8:36:32am |
re: #250 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Yup, he was dead on about how all the rapey stabby priviliged white kids had it coming when they got the shit kickied out of them my the cops. Nothing to see here, more along.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Fri, Jan 20, 2012 8:37:08am |
re: #250 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I disagree. His "way" was shitty, mostly because people disagreed with him. People were even furious about factual links he made.
He was dead on. (Easy for me to say because I agreed with him from post one.)
Incorrect. He was not dead on ever on this issue. He employed demagoguery and inflammatory BS like calling all OWSers (as well as people here) stabbers, rapists, endorsed macings of defenseless girls, etc.
That OWS could fail was obvious pretty much to most involved back in October. KT doesn't take a prize for being "right all along", because he wasn't.
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Decatur Deb Fri, Jan 20, 2012 8:37:55am |
re: #251 sattv4u2
thats why I make sure my guy is well schooled
Always a good approach, if it can be done. The intertoobs have made it much easier to DIY and to quality-control local shops.
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jamesfirecat Fri, Jan 20, 2012 8:37:57am |
re: #250 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I disagree. His "way" was shitty, mostly because people disagreed with him. People were even furious about factual links he made.
He was dead on. (Easy for me to say because I agreed with him from post one.)
Talking about how much you enjoy seeing "Trust fund marxists" get pepper sprayed is a shitty way to make your point even if you agree with someone.
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sattv4u2 Fri, Jan 20, 2012 8:37:58am |
re: #253 BishopX
Yup, he was dead on about how all the rapey stabby priviliged white kids had it coming when they got the shit kickied out of them my the cops. Nothing to see here, more along.
Yup,,, when those rapey stabby priviliged white kids bum rushed the cops the cops SHOULD have given them all ice cream cones and merit badges!
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Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Jan 20, 2012 8:40:00am |
Aaand we're off...
But, I gotta go to work. Have fun.
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Fri, Jan 20, 2012 8:42:51am |
Mutually assured destruction, my ass. There goes the nuke.
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BishopX Fri, Jan 20, 2012 8:45:52am |
re: #257 sattv4u2
You mean when they people behind the police netting in NYC got pepper sprayed, or when the kids sitting on the sidewalk at UC Davis had pepper spray sprayed down their throats? How about when an 84 year woman was pepper sprayed in the face in Seattle? Where they all "bum rushing" the barricades? How about Scott Olsen, who wound up in the hospital with brain damge for coming to close to a police line. Or when Kayvan Sabehgi wound up with a lacerated spleen for asking apolice officer where he wanted him to go?
Yeah, they all had it coming.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Fri, Jan 20, 2012 8:47:03am |
Shropshire_Slasher, butthurt much?
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albusteve Fri, Jan 20, 2012 8:50:34am |
Etta James passed away at 79...
she was a sassy one....RIP
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albusteve Fri, Jan 20, 2012 8:52:26am |
re: #263 albusteve
Etta James passed away at 79...
she was a sassy one...RIP
ironically, she was discovered by Johnny Otis who died just yesterday...
two giants
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Killgore Trout Fri, Jan 20, 2012 8:54:05am |
re: #257 sattv4u2
Yup,,, when those rapey stabby priviliged white kids bum rushed the cops the cops SHOULD have given them all ice cream cones and merit badges!
Rapey is the new Free Love!
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sattv4u2 Fri, Jan 20, 2012 8:55:17am |
re: #260 BishopX
Yup,, that excuses all the drugs/rapes/thefts/property damage/assaults
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jamesfirecat Fri, Jan 20, 2012 8:56:26am |
re: #266 sattv4u2
Yup,, that excuses all the drugs/rapes/thefts/property damage/assaults
Do the drugs/rapes/thefts/property damage/assaults excuse it when the police go after innocent people?
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BishopX Fri, Jan 20, 2012 8:56:33am |
re: #266 sattv4u2
Becuase pepper spraying an 84 year old woman in the face is going to stop the homeless guy in the park from shitting on someones door step. Good police work there.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Fri, Jan 20, 2012 8:56:39am |
re: #266 sattv4u2
Yup,, that excuses all the drugs/rapes/thefts/property damage/assaults
Classic bait and switch.
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albusteve Fri, Jan 20, 2012 8:57:13am |
OWS still smoldering....heh
what a monumental bust
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sattv4u2 Fri, Jan 20, 2012 8:57:24am |
re: #267 jamesfirecat
Do the drugs/rapes/thefts/property damage/assaults excuse it when the police go after innocent people?
Not at all
And those individual police should be held accountable
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Fri, Jan 20, 2012 8:57:42am |
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garhighway Fri, Jan 20, 2012 8:57:48am |
re: #256 jamesfirecat
Talking about how much you enjoy seeing "Trust fund marxists" get pepper sprayed is a shitty way to make your point even if you agree with someone.
I wonder how many TFMs there are in the world (or at OWS)? I'm guessing it is a really low number.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Fri, Jan 20, 2012 8:58:10am |
re: #271 sattv4u2
Not at all
And those individual police should be held accountable
And all those individual OWSers should be held accountable.
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sattv4u2 Fri, Jan 20, 2012 8:59:52am |
re: #274 Sergey Romanov
And all those individual OWSers should be held accountable.
And not protected behind the other OWS people
So we're in agreement there!
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albusteve Fri, Jan 20, 2012 9:00:59am |
Palestinians to renew efforts for bid to U.N.
Talks with Israel delayed attempt
is that an intifada I smell?
[Link: www.washingtontimes.com...]
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kirkspencer Fri, Jan 20, 2012 9:01:54am |
re: #271 sattv4u2
Not at all
And those individual police should be held accountable
Individual police should be accountable but all supporters of OWS are guilty?
Sauce for goose is sauce for gander.
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sattv4u2 Fri, Jan 20, 2012 9:03:11am |
re: #277 kirkspencer
Individual police should be accountable but all supporters of OWS are guilty?
Sauce for goose is sauce for gander.
And I said that,,,, where??
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Fri, Jan 20, 2012 9:03:25am |
re: #275 sattv4u2
And not protected behind the other OWS people
So we're in agreement there!
Dunno, dunno. Some folks seem to be hellbent to equate the concluding phase of the OWS (with skyrocketing extremism and also the increased level of lawbreaking) with OWS as it was started in October, and to tar all participants as some sort of hoodlums. If you're not one of them, we may be in agreement.
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sattv4u2 Fri, Jan 20, 2012 9:04:25am |
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sattv4u2 Fri, Jan 20, 2012 9:05:06am |
And on that note,,,, time to get ready for the long quiet drive TO work
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Daniel Ballard Fri, Jan 20, 2012 9:05:44am |
Hating on groups over the sins of individuals is what bigotry lives on & breathes. Cuts both ways cops and protesters.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Fri, Jan 20, 2012 9:05:58am |
re: #280 sattv4u2
If you're not one of them, we may be in agreement
see #278
#257 and #266 seem pretty non-specific, i.e. broad.
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kirkspencer Fri, Jan 20, 2012 9:06:46am |
re: #278 sattv4u2
And I said that,,, where??
Oh, now we get to play "it's not a quote" games?
I believe it was implied by your sarcastic response re: #257 sattv4u2
Yup,,, when those rapey stabby priviliged white kids bum rushed the cops the cops SHOULD have given them all ice cream cones and merit badges!
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sattv4u2 Fri, Jan 20, 2012 9:08:18am |
re: #283 Sergey Romanov
#257 and #266 seem pretty non-specific, i.e. broad.
#257 specifically calls out the ones that bum rushed cops
#266 specifically mentions the rapists, drug peddlers/users, property damage/ assault perps
Pretty specific I thought
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sattv4u2 Fri, Jan 20, 2012 9:09:30am |
TAKE 2
And on that note,,, time to get ready for the long quiet drive TO work
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Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Fri, Jan 20, 2012 9:09:43am |
I give up. I can't tell which of you are the OWS-Elizabots.
///
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Lidane Fri, Jan 20, 2012 9:10:07am |
re: #226 oaktree
Hmm, the Supreme Court just tossed the federal court Texas redistricting map. Back to Square One?
[Link: firstread.msnbc.msn.com...]
Awesome news. I can't wait to hear the whining from the Texas GOP.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Fri, Jan 20, 2012 9:10:12am |
re: #285 sattv4u2
#257 specifically calls out the ones that bum rushed cops
#266 specifically mentions the rapists, drug peddlers/users, property damage/ assault perpsPretty specific I thought
Except then #257 fails as a response to #253, which was not talking about "the ones that bum rushed cops"; while #266 continues the #257 line. So don't blame us for misinterpreting. ;)
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Daniel Ballard Fri, Jan 20, 2012 9:10:33am |
re: #287 sattv4u2
Safe drive there Satt! Play some music to pass the miles.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Fri, Jan 20, 2012 9:11:41am |
[Link: www.nbcnewyork.com...]
The CIA's top lawyer never approved sending a veteran agency officer to New York, where he helped set up police spying programs, The Associated Press has learned.
Such approval would have been required under the presidential order that Police Commissioner Ray Kelly said authorized the unusual assignment.
[...]
In a series of investigative reports since August, the AP has revealed that, with the CIA's help, the NYPD developed spying programs that monitored every aspect of Muslim life and built databases on where innocent Muslims eat, shop, work and pray. Plainclothes officers monitored conversations in Muslim neighborhoods and wrote daily reports about what they heard.
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allegro Fri, Jan 20, 2012 9:13:33am |
Regardless of what it ultimately - and likely inevitably - morphed into, OWS absolutely worked. It got the attention of media both local and national, captured the attention of even low-info voters, and it changed the dialog from deficit/austerity to income inequality, Wall street/Congress collusion, the need for consumer protection, etc. That Mitt Romney is referred to as Mr. 1% and the 99/1 theme is being played on a number of levels demonstrates the success of OWS that outlives actual occupation and THAT was the point of it, not the occupations themselves.
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Fri, Jan 20, 2012 9:14:32am |
re: #294 allegro
For me the result of the OWS will be clear from Obama's campaign. If Obama will stress the inequality angle, it is due to OWS.
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wrenchwench Fri, Jan 20, 2012 9:19:29am |
Etta James doing her first song produced with Johnny Otis:
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Obdicut Fri, Jan 20, 2012 9:21:37am |
re: #295 Sergey Romanov
You still can't figure out if they were just a chip of wood on the tide. I'd say the Wisconsin protesters deserve a lot of credit. The rebellion against the labor laws under Kasich was already going on, too.
I don't know how to tell if something is a motivator or just becomes highly recognized despite being a product rather than a motivator.
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albusteve Fri, Jan 20, 2012 9:22:08am |
re: #296 wrenchwench
Etta James doing her first song produced with Johnny Otis:
[Video]
just a few years back I saw her up in Telluride...two big studs helped her to a seat on the stage where she did her thing...she was still very lively, funny as hell and still had her pipes...definitely, one of a kind
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Fri, Jan 20, 2012 9:23:12am |
As OhCrap puts it, e_e
[Link: www.washingtonpost.com...]
John Demjanjuk, who was convicted last year of serving as a Nazi death camp guard, is asking for German state financial help to sue the country’s biggest-selling newspaper for alleged defamation, a court said Thursday.
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Fri, Jan 20, 2012 9:31:18am |
re: #288 oaktree
I give up. I can't tell which of you are the OWS-Elizabots.
///
Do you want to talk about OWS-Elizabots?
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Fri, Jan 20, 2012 9:31:58am |
re: #300 thedopefishlives
Do you want to talk about OWS-Elizabots?
Well, hello there, dear! Send me your photo :))))
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Fri, Jan 20, 2012 9:33:05am |
re: #301 Sergey Romanov
/
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Fri, Jan 20, 2012 9:36:28am |
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Lord Baron Viscount Duke Earl Count Planckton Fri, Jan 20, 2012 9:37:27am |
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kirkspencer Fri, Jan 20, 2012 9:37:33am |
re: #297 Obdicut
You still can't figure out if they were just a chip of wood on the tide. I'd say the Wisconsin protesters deserve a lot of credit. The rebellion against the labor laws under Kasich was already going on, too.
I don't know how to tell if something is a motivator or just becomes highly recognized despite being a product rather than a motivator.
No, I think they were more than that. The Wisconsin and Kasich protesters were significant, but they weren't raising the income inequality issue. The 99% meme is straight from the OWS.
The other thing the OWS did was move it from being "just" Wisconsin and Ohio to nationwide. The two states' protesters weren't seeing protests in other states solely in support of their actions.
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Daniel Ballard Fri, Jan 20, 2012 9:40:02am |
With the caveat that this is a Fox link, it is being reported that
"The chief of the Criminal Division of the U.S. Attorney’s Office in Arizona is refusing to testify before Congress regarding Operation Fast and Furious, the federal gun-running scandal that sent U.S. weapons to Mexico.
Read more: [Link: www.foxnews.com...]
Patrick J. Cunningham informed the House Oversight Committee late Thursday through his attorney that he will use the Fifth Amendment protection"
To me this just huge. Anytime a Federal official takes the 5th over actions taken on the job we should all take a much loser look. From early on many were suspecting this was just a RWNJ fake outrage-Now we get to this.
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Lidane Fri, Jan 20, 2012 9:40:20am |
Awesome. I just got my independent research project approved by my advisor. Now I just have to do the research. Heh.
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Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Fri, Jan 20, 2012 9:41:01am |
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BishopX Fri, Jan 20, 2012 9:44:23am |
re: #307 Rightwingconspirator
I don't think anyone thought there wasn't a story here, the question is, how high did it go. So far all the RWNJ (and congress) has been able to turn up is that Holder had the name mentioned to him a few times in weekly briefings. I have no doubt that there was a whole lot of stoopid in the ground in AZ and that some peoples careers are over, which is probably for the best.
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albusteve Fri, Jan 20, 2012 9:44:34am |
re: #307 Rightwingconspirator
With the caveat that this is a Fox link, it is being reported that
"Patrick J. Cunningham informed the House Oversight Committee late Thursday through his attorney that he will use the Fifth Amendment protection"Read more: [Link: www.foxnews.com...]
To me this just huge. Anytime a Federal official takes the 5th over actions taken on the job we should all take a much loser look. From early on many were suspecting this was just a RWNJ fake outrage-Now we get to this.
it's nothing, remember?...just an oversight that any administration might have done...nothing to see
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Daniel Ballard Fri, Jan 20, 2012 9:48:22am |
re: #310 BishopX
I don't think anyone thought there wasn't a story here, the question is, how high did it go. So far all the RWNJ (and congress) has been able to turn up is that Holder had the name mentioned to him a few times in weekly briefings. I have no doubt that there was a whole lot of stoopid in the ground in AZ and that some peoples careers are over, which is probly for the best.
So many downplayed this, particularly in the left leaning media online. If Issa had not kept the heat on it would have faded away. Many question his motives even as real issues emerged.
Who remembers the last time the 5th saved a Federal man? Was it maybe Ruby Ridge?
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lawhawk Fri, Jan 20, 2012 9:49:10am |
re: #311 Lidane
Personally, I prefer racks like these.
*hic*
It would have to be one heck of an overflowing rack though :)
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Obdicut Fri, Jan 20, 2012 9:49:42am |
re: #313 Rightwingconspirator
His motives are obvious, and terrible. The continued attempt of the right-wing media is to tie this directly to Holder or Obama.
Nobody is saying the program was great and fine and everything was wonderful.
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blueraven Fri, Jan 20, 2012 9:50:51am |
re: #307 Rightwingconspirator
With the caveat that this is a Fox link, it is being reported that
"Patrick J. Cunningham informed the House Oversight Committee late Thursday through his attorney that he will use the Fifth Amendment protection"Read more: [Link: www.foxnews.com...]
To me this just huge. Anytime a Federal official takes the 5th over actions taken on the job we should all take a much loser look. From early on many were suspecting this was just a RWNJ fake outrage-Now we get to this.
It proves Cunningham doesn't want to incriminate himself. The accounts dont match up between Cunningham and Department of Justice officials.
Look who's taking the 5th.
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darthstar Fri, Jan 20, 2012 9:51:03am |
re: #311 Lidane
Personally, I prefer racks like these.
*hic*
Those are nice racks...of course, the guy in me also likes a good tight rack.
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BishopX Fri, Jan 20, 2012 9:54:33am |
re: #313 Rightwingconspirator
Monica Goodling took the 5th in response to a questions about the 2006 US attorney scandal. It didn't help her much though.
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bratwurst Fri, Jan 20, 2012 9:55:31am |
re: #244 Sergey Romanov
The only reason you're taking shit is because you made your anti-OWS case in a pretty shitty way. That's all there is to it.
Well put. I agree with much of what he has had to say on topic, just not the way he chose to say it. A lot of posters here would have lost their accounts for acting out like that.
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wrenchwench Fri, Jan 20, 2012 9:56:20am |
Here's a nice rack.
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