GOP Platform Embraces Shariah Panic

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As Todd Akin weathers the storm of disapproval in heroic right wing fashion, tied to the mast and ears plugged with wax, Republicans in Tampa are busily putting the finishing touches on a batshit insane 2012 platform, featuring total criminalization of abortion and the paranoid xenophobic fantasy that Islamic law is about to take over the courtrooms of America: GOP Embraces Anti-Shariah.

While leaders like Speaker Boehner and Sen. John McCain were rightly praised for taking a strong stand against Rep. Michele Bachmann’s witch hunt against Muslims in the U.S. government, don’t give the party of Lincoln a pass on Islamophobia just yet. In Tampa this week, GOP leaders adopted a plank to their platform supporting a ban on foreign law and aimed at Shariah, the Islamic religious law that many conservatives insist is secretly insinuating itself in the U.S. The platform still has to be approved by the entire convention in a vote next week, but generally, most things approved by the platform committee make it into the final platform.

TPM’s Ryan Reilly reports that the man behind the effort to add the amendment is none other than Kris Kobach, Kansas’ secretary of state who moonlights as an anti-immigration activist. Kobach wrote Arizona’s infamous SB-1070 “papers please” immigration law, and advised a handful of other states on their similar laws cracking down on undocumented migrants. Kobach is (or at least was during the primary) an adviser to Mitt Romney’s presidential campaign, and likely the man behind Romney’s “self-deportation” immigration policy.

But Kobach is nothing if not prolific, and apparently he has now taken up the fight against Shariah. Critics charge that just as the threat of undocumented immigration is used to justify discrimination against Hispanics, the spectre of Shariah is used to justify discrimination against Muslims.

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172 comments

1 Kragarghazi  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 3:30:42pm

Since we don't want foreign religious texts influencing our laws, does that mean we can toss out the Bible?

2 calochortus  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 3:32:05pm

They don't want Sharia law since there are a few minor differences from their preferred legal system and no one wants competition or confusion.

3 aagcobb  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 3:32:54pm

re: #1 Kragar

Since we don't want foreign religious texts influencing our laws, does that mean we can toss out the Bible?

No, silly. Supply-side Jesus is pure American.

4 darthstar  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 3:32:58pm
5 The Ghost of a Benghazi Flea  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 3:33:00pm

GOP promises to hunt down eco-terrorist Captain Nemo.

GOP to deploy SEAL teams against COBRA.

GOP to write Stand Your Ground legislation providing for lethal self-defense in anticipation of grey alien abduction and anal probing.

Border fence will repel chupacabras and Chinese hopping vampires, says GOP.

6 Batmanghazi  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 3:33:35pm

re: #1 Kragar

Since we don't want foreign religious texts influencing our laws, does that mean we can toss out the Bible?

Nothing the right advocates is found in there anyway.

7 Daniel Ballard  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 3:34:02pm

I'm confused. Why would the GOP fear sharia? Maybe it's not conservative or theocratic enough?
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8 jaunte  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 3:34:11pm
9 Kragarghazi  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 3:35:02pm
Kobach is (or at least was during the primary) an adviser to Mitt Romney’s presidential campaign, and likely the man behind Romney’s “self-deportation” immigration policy.

Kobach Compares Homosexuality To Polygamy, Drug Use During GOP Platform Committee Meeting

Pat Kerby, an RNC delegate from Nevada, introduced the amendment, arguing that “under the constitution, every American gets treated equally under the law.”

But Kobach, who is best know as the chief architect of Arizona’s xenophobic SB 1070 law and advises the Romney campaign on immigration issues, opposed the amendment by comparing LGBT people to drug users and polygamists:

Our government routinely judges situations where you might regard people completely affecting themselves like for example the use of controlled substances, like polygamy that is voluntarily entered in to. We condemn those activities even though they are not hurting other people at least directly. So this is worded way to broadly for inclusion in the platform.

The amendment was defeated by a voice vote.

10 Charles Johnson  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 3:35:21pm

Even Dana Loesch is bailing on Todd Akin.

11 Benghazzy Ben Ross  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 3:35:30pm

Jobs.

12 jaunte  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 3:36:55pm

re: #10 Charles Johnson

Just because he "failed a soundbite?"

13 Kragarghazi  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 3:37:54pm

re: #10 Charles Johnson

Even Dana Loesch is bailing on Todd Akin.

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14 Benghazzy Ben Ross  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 3:38:04pm

re: #12 jaunte

Just because he "failed a soundbite?"

Wasn't she defending him a day or two ago?

This is confusing me!

15 abolitionist  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 3:38:24pm

Distraction is a magician's #1 skill, but it's not limited to entertainers.

16 Batmanghazi  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 3:38:30pm

re: #10 Charles Johnson

Even Dana Loesch is bailing on Todd Akin.

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Oh come on, Dana. All he needs to do is clarify the difference between legitimate and illegitimate rape some more.

17 allegro  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 3:38:49pm

re: #14 Mocking Jay

Wasn't she defending him a day or two ago?

This is confusing me!

I think that was this morning.

18 Kragarghazi  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 3:39:10pm

re: #14 Mocking Jay

Wasn't she defending him a day or two ago?

This is confusing me!

That was before he wasn't one of them anymore.

19 Targetpractice  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 3:39:13pm

re: #10 Charles Johnson

Even Dana Loesch is bailing on Todd Akin.

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Nothing quite as amusing as watching rats scatter from a sinking ship.

20 Benghazzy Ben Ross  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 3:39:33pm

re: #17 allegro

I think that was this morning.

Okay, now your just fucking with me.

21 jaunte  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 3:39:42pm

re: #14 Mocking Jay

Tomorrow she will have always been opposed to Akin.

22 The Ghost of a Benghazi Flea  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 3:40:22pm

re: #21 jaunte

Tomorrow she will have always been opposed to Akiin.

And if Akin nonetheless wins she'll be crowing about it.

23 makeitstopghazi  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 3:40:23pm

re: #20 Mocking Jay

Okay, now your your're just fucking with me.

Fixed.

24 wrenchwench  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 3:40:25pm

Now more than ever:

Frank says:

Government is the Entertainment Division of the military-industrial complex. -- from the Real Frank Zappa Book

25 Targetpractice  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 3:40:36pm

re: #21 jaunte

Tomorrow she will have always been opposed to Akin.

We've always been at war with Eastasia.

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26 The Ghost of a Benghazi Flea  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 3:42:46pm

re: #25 Targetpractice

We've always been at war with Eastasia.

/

But have we been legitimately at war with Eastasia?

27 goddamnedfrank  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 3:43:49pm

re: #10 Charles Johnson

Even Dana Loesch is bailing on Todd Akin.

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At least she's not couching it in terms of her non existent sense of personal integrity, but instead basing it on pure electoral expedience. The mainstream GOP is still hoping to bluff their way out of the situation, hoping that people won't realize that all Akin did was accurately, if clumsily articulate the party's absolutist position.

28 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 3:44:50pm

they really are shooting themselves in the foot here. The platform is going to be a gold mine for mockery on late night TV and by the media at large.

29 makeitstopghazi  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 3:44:51pm
30 Gus  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 3:45:12pm

re: #21 jaunte

Tomorrow she will have always been opposed to Akin.

And the day after she'll blame the librul media!! for causing her to change her mind.

31 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 3:45:53pm

re: #29 makeitstop

OT: Heh. That's my boss...

Dee Snider To Paul Ryan: We’re Not Gonna Take Your Use Of Our Music

Cool.

Good, I was hoping TS would tell them to stuff it.

32 andres  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 3:45:54pm

So, it's 6:46pm EST... Did Akin bail out?

33 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 3:46:07pm

re: #32 andres

So, it's 6:46pm EST... Did Akin bail out?

nope, doubled down.

34 andres  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 3:46:34pm

re: #30 Gus

And the day after she'll blame the librul media!! for causing her to change her mind.

Not because of that. She'll blame the liberal media because they didn't retroactively clarify her position.

35 Targetpractice  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 3:46:39pm

re: #21 jaunte

Tomorrow she will have always been opposed to Akin.

But seriously, that's pretty much what we're already hearing. You know, "This is why the Democrats spent $1.5 million to get him elected in the primary!" They're trying to set up the usual win-win, where if he loses they say "We never really supported him," but if he wins they go "We knew he could rise above the adversity and win!"

36 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 3:48:15pm

*facepalm*

"... so virtually nobody other than the Family Research Council and yours truly—even Rush apparently now is out saying he's gotta step aside, so everybody is gang tackling Todd Akin. Now you talk about a forcible situation, you talk about somebody being a victim of kind of forcible assault, that would be Todd Akin." - Bryan Fischer

37 jaunte  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 3:48:30pm

News release from Emily's List:

GOP: Todd Akin, He’s Just Like Us! Republican Congressmen Voting Records are Indistinguishable from Akin’s

“I wish Todd Akin’s backwards thinking made him an outlier,” said EMILY’s List President Stephanie Schriock. “But the truth is, he’s totally in line with today’s Republican Party. EMILY’s List is offering women voters a compelling alternative, with strong Democratic women running for House and Senate all over the country. And the Republican representatives they’re looking to replace have voting records virtually indistinguishable from Todd Akin’s. Today’s GOP is a party of extremists, from the Romney-Ryan ticket on down, and women are going to reject their anti-woman agenda this November at the ballot.”

Vice Presidential candidate Paul Ryan enjoys a 93% score voting with Rep. Akin.

38 RadicalModerate  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 3:48:32pm

I've gotten to the point that I honestly believe that there will be either a speaker at the GOP convention, or at the very least a presence of paraphernalia on the convention floor in view of cameras that will openly state "Vote for the White guy".

39 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 3:49:35pm

re: #38 RadicalModerate

I've gotten to the point that I honestly believe that there will be either a speaker at the GOP convention, or at the very least a presence of paraphernalia on the convention floor in view of cameras that will openly state "Vote for the White guy".

three words...purple...heart...bandaids...

40 Renaissance_Man  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 3:49:36pm

re: #33 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

nope, doubled down.

Odds are he will still win.

Seriously - the mainstream Conservativist voter is now close to a cultist. No amount of facts or ugliness from the people they're voting for will shake the central tenet of their faith, which is a blind, burning hatred of Democrats and liberals.

These people actively seek out sources to feed them hate. What could possibly make a dent in that?

41 SpaceJesus  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 3:50:19pm

I wonder what Axelrod is doing right now

42 Sionainn  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 3:50:25pm

re: #30 Gus

And the day after she'll blame the librul media!! for causing her to change her mind.

No, she'll claim the librul media are vicious bullies who so outrageously attacked such a righteous Christian man like Akin that he now can't possibly win.

43 aagcobb  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 3:50:56pm

re: #36 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

*facepalm*

I sincerely appreciate Akin mistakenly telling the truth about his beliefs, because it could keep the Senate in democratic hands. If more Republicans would just tell the truth, we'd have a democratic landslide.

44 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 3:51:04pm

re: #40 Renaissance_Man

sadly he could still win. Thus showing that Missouri is as bat-shit insane as the rest.

45 Targetpractice  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 3:51:32pm

re: #41 SpaceJesus

I wonder what Axelrod is doing right now

Probably laughing his ass off.

46 Ben G. Hazi  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 3:51:42pm

re: #10 Charles Johnson

Even Dana Loesch is bailing on Todd Akin.

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*cough*BULLSHIT*cough*

47 RadicalModerate  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 3:51:58pm

re: #39 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

three words...purple...heart...bandaids...

Yeah, I was thinking of that, and whether we would see this one make an appearance again.

[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]

48 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 3:52:28pm

Sounds like a tropical storm/hurricane may hit during the repulican convention. Now if I believed in jebus I'd take that as a sign from god that they need to be a bit more tolerant, they'll take it as a sign they are too tolerant.

49 Gus  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 3:53:10pm
50 SpaceJesus  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 3:53:40pm

re: #48 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

yeah, i got this one

51 Targetpractice  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 3:53:47pm

re: #49 Gus

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It's like goldy or bronzy, only it's made of iron.

52 aagcobb  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 3:54:00pm

re: #48 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

Sounds like a tropical storm/hurricane may hit during the repulican convention. Now if I believed in jebus I'd take that as a sign from god that they need to be a bit more tolerant, they'll take it as a sign they are too tolerant.

If only Romney hadn't removed repeal of DADT from the platform, God wouldn't have smited us!/

53 Daniel Ballard  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 3:54:17pm

Tonight's campaign strategy meeting with Obama
"What our my next move in my campaign?"

Answer-"Nothing, nothing needed at all"

54 wrenchwench  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 3:54:28pm

re: #29 makeitstop

OT: Heh. That's my boss...

Dee Snider To Paul Ryan: We’re Not Gonna Take Your Use Of Our Music

Cool.

LOL

“There is almost nothing he stands for that I agree with except the use of the P90X.”

55 Benghazzy Ben Ross  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 3:55:44pm

re: #49 Gus

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This campaign season isn't going to stop getting weirder, is it?

56 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 3:55:48pm
57 aagcobb  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 3:56:06pm

re: #53 Daniel Ballard

Tonight's campaign strategy meeting with Obama
"What our my next move in my campaign?"

Answer-"Nothing, nothing needed at all"

I wonder if anyone has tried to spin Romney's call on Akin to quit as his "Sister Souljah" moment?

58 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 3:56:10pm

re: #55 Mocking Jay

No.

59 Kragarghazi  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 3:56:58pm

re: #41 SpaceJesus

I wonder what Axelrod is doing right now

60 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 3:57:29pm

re: #59 Kragar

I regret I have but only one upding to give for that cult 80's reference.

61 The Ghost of a Benghazi Flea  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 3:58:12pm

re: #38 RadicalModerate

I've gotten to the point that I honestly believe that there will be either a speaker at the GOP convention, or at the very least a presence of paraphernalia on the convention floor in view of cameras that will openly state "Vote for the White guy".

If the reports are to be believed, Donald Trump is bringing an Obama impersonator.

You know, to proxy-humiliate.

62 allegro  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 3:59:35pm

re: #61 The Ghost of a Flea

If the reports are to be believed, Donald Trump is bringing an Obama impersonator.

You know, to proxy-humiliate.

Still smarting over that dinner speech, huh? He was pretty much eviscerated in a hilarious kinda way.

63 Gus  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 4:00:03pm

re: #61 The Ghost of a Flea

If the reports are to be believed, Donald Trump is bringing an Obama impersonator.

You know, to proxy-humiliate.

Classy.

64 Targetpractice  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 4:00:25pm

re: #61 The Ghost of a Flea

If the reports are to be believed, Donald Trump is bringing an Obama impersonator.

You know, to proxy-humiliate.

Because what better way to show just how mature and honorable a party the GOP is than to engage in make-believe on prime-time TV?

65 Benghazzy Ben Ross  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 4:01:04pm

re: #61 The Ghost of a Flea

If the reports are to be believed, Donald Trump is bringing an Obama impersonator.

You know, to proxy-humiliate.

It's too bad he can't do that to Obama's face. You know, like the President did to Trump at the Correspondent's Dinner last year. The night before he killed Bin Laden.

66 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 4:01:43pm

re: #61 The Ghost of a Flea

oh we all know they will do something to embarrass and humiliate themselves in front of the rest of the nation. Of course they will never feel said embarrassment and humiliation.

67 wrenchwench  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 4:01:43pm

re: #61 The Ghost of a Flea

If the reports are to be believed, Donald Trump is bringing an Obama impersonator.

You know, to proxy-humiliate.

I'm horrible, but I hope they use a white guy in blackface.

68 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 4:02:02pm

re: #67 wrenchwench

I'm horrible, but I hope they use a white guy in blackface.

undoubtedly they will.

69 Kragarghazi  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 4:02:24pm

re: #61 The Ghost of a Flea

If the reports are to be believed, Donald Trump is bringing an Obama impersonator.

You know, to proxy-humiliate.

Wow, I'm guessing a "You're fired" skit coming soon from Donald.

Laaaaaame.

70 andres  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 4:02:25pm

re: #40 Renaissance_Man

Odds are he will still win.

Seriously - the mainstream Conservativist voter is now close to a cultist. No amount of facts or ugliness from the people they're voting for will shake the central tenet of their faith, which is a blind, burning hatred of Democrats and liberals.

These people actively seek out sources to feed them hate. What could possibly make a dent in that?

There's a chance the damage won't be localized. That's why Romney team is full panic mode over this. It's yet another issue the Dems can hang on the National Republicans, which will trickle down to other local races, which will then suffer due to association.

71 wrenchwench  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 4:03:54pm

re: #70 andres

There's a chance the damage won't be localized. That's why Romney team is full panic mode over this. It's yet another issue the Dems can hang on the National Republicans, which will trickle down to other local races, which will then suffer due to association.

Reverse coattails. Coattails you trip over, and then they strangle you.

72 The Ghost of a Benghazi Flea  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 4:04:18pm

re: #61 The Ghost of a Flea

If the reports are to be believed, Donald Trump is bringing an Obama impersonator.

You know, to proxy-humiliate.

PS -- I added the link to the Mediaite page that explains where the speculation comes from.

73 darthstar  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 4:04:47pm

With the margin of error, Romney losing black vote by 106%.

74 wrenchwench  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 4:07:17pm

re: #73 darthstar

With the margin of error, Romney losing black vote by 106%.

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OK, I guess the blackface isn't needed. Suggestion withdrawn.

75 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 4:08:00pm

re: #71 wrenchwench

Reverse coattails. Coattails you trip over, and then they strangle you.

he has coat hangers though...

76 Benghazzy Ben Ross  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 4:08:14pm

re: #73 darthstar

With the margin of error, Romney losing black vote by 106%.

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Okay, but how many of them will actually be able to vote come November 6th, hm?

77 The Ghost of a Benghazi Flea  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 4:08:42pm

re: #73 darthstar

With the margin of error, Romney losing black vote by 106%.

They're just ungrateful because Romney stood up to the NAACP and told them he wasn't going to pony up free money for Cadillacs and T-bones.//

78 Mattand  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 4:09:36pm

re: #40 Renaissance_Man

Odds are he will still win.

Seriously - the mainstream Conservativist voter is now close to a cultist. No amount of facts or ugliness from the people they're voting for will shake the central tenet of their faith, which is a blind, burning hatred of Democrats and liberals.

These people actively seek out sources to feed them hate. What could possibly make a dent in that?

This, unfortunately.

The fact Akin has embraced truly inhuman views towards rape victims and is still in the lead speaks volumes of the typical Missouri Republican/conservative.

Some people earlier said that it's too early to judge by these numbers, but I'm not that optimistic. I have utter faith in the modern conservative's inability to realize how batshit their party is.

79 austin_blue  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 4:09:47pm

I've got a few minutes before my City Commission meeting tonight, so I'd just like to chime in and note that the RNC's handling of this campaign is the biggest clusterfuck I've ever seen. The Party Platform is the topper.

How can they possibly win?

80 aagcobb  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 4:10:54pm

re: #79 austin_blue

I've got a few minutes before my City Commission meeting tonight, so I'd just like to chime in and note that the RNC's handling of this campaign is the biggest clusterfuck I've ever seen. The Party Platform is the topper.

How can they possibly win?

8.3% unemployment. Otherwise, it would be a landslide for Obama.

81 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 4:11:03pm

re: #79 austin_blue

I've got a few minutes before my City Commission meeting tonight, so I'd just like to chime in and note that the RNC's handling of this campaign is the biggest clusterfuck I've ever seen. The Party Platform is the topper.

How can they possibly win?

if you can't dazzle them with brilliance, then baffle them with bullshit.

82 Gus  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 4:11:11pm

Oops!

[Link: web.archive.org...]

83 wrenchwench  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 4:11:17pm

re: #79 austin_blue

I've got a few minutes before my City Commission meeting tonight, so I'd just like to chime in and note that the RNC's handling of this campaign is the biggest clusterfuck I've ever seen. The Party Platform is the topper.

How can they possibly win?

Supposedly nobody ever really cares about the platform.

That was before Twitter, though...

84 Decatur Deb  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 4:11:28pm

re: #79 austin_blue

I've got a few minutes before my City Commission meeting tonight, so I'd just like to chime in and note that the RNC's handling of this campaign is the biggest clusterfuck I've ever seen. The Party Platform is the topper.

How can they possibly win?

Low turnout.

85 Kragarghazi  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 4:11:29pm

re: #79 austin_blue

I've got a few minutes before my City Commission meeting tonight, so I'd just like to chime in and note that the RNC's handling of this campaign is the biggest clusterfuck I've ever seen. The Party Platform is the topper.

How can they possibly win?

Money, intimidation, and exploiting people's ignorance.

86 Charles Johnson  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 4:13:29pm
87 Benghazzy Ben Ross  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 4:13:35pm

re: #85 Kragar

Money, intimidation, and exploiting people's ignorance.

And money. Don't forget money. Lots and lots o' money.

I shot some money into the air,
Where it came from I know not where...

88 andres  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 4:13:52pm

re: #79 austin_blue

I've got a few minutes before my City Commission meeting tonight, so I'd just like to chime in and note that the RNC's handling of this campaign is the biggest clusterfuck I've ever seen. The Party Platform is the topper.

How can they possibly win?

SuperPACs.

89 Varek Raith  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 4:14:28pm

You didn't hear this from me but,
The Vatican in foreign.
Pass it on.

90 Benghazzy Ben Ross  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 4:14:42pm

re: #86 Charles Johnson

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They're not mad at him for having these caveman views. They're mad at him for damaging the brand.

91 darthstar  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 4:16:00pm

re: #90 Mocking Jay

They're not mad at him for having these caveman views. They're mad at him for damaging the brand.

The brand was already damaged. He just made it impossible to deny that fact anymore.

92 funky chicken  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 4:16:26pm

re: #40 Renaissance_Man

I'd like to argue with you, but my dad has become one of them. It's been difficult to watch.

93 Benghazzy Ben Ross  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 4:17:36pm

re: #92 funky chicken

I'd like to argue with you, but my dad has become one of them. It's been difficult to watch.

My mom has, too.

{{{the funk}}}

94 Varek Raith  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 4:18:42pm

re: #92 funky chicken

I'd like to argue with you, but my dad has become one of them. It's been difficult to watch.

re: #93 Mocking Jay

My mom has, too.

{{{the funk}}}

My dad is convinced an Obama 2nd term will end the US.
My mom just laughs.

95 Ben G. Hazi  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 4:21:11pm

re: #94 Varek Raith

re: #93 Mocking Jay

My dad is convinced an Obama 2nd term will end the US.
My mom just laughs.

Your dad's been hitting the MJ and listening to Alex Jones, hasn't he?

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96 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 4:21:31pm

re: #92 funky chicken

my parents are the same, very hard to watch. TV tuned to Faux News 24/7, radio tuned to rush and glenn beck, believed Sarah Palin was some sort of second coming.

97 funky chicken  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 4:21:47pm

{{{support group}}}

98 Benghazzy Ben Ross  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 4:23:10pm

re: #96 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

my parents are the same, very hard to watch. TV tuned to Faux News 24/7, radio tuned to rush and glenn beck, believed Sarah Palin was some sort of second coming.

This Akin kerfluffle was the first Republican fuckup I've been able to mention to her without hearing about how bad Dems are too.

99 Obdicut  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 4:24:08pm

I've actually had the reverse. My dad didn't believe in evolution when I was a kid. I remember him mocking the idea, and it being one of the first moments where I realized that my parents were fallible, since evolution always made sense to me.

But he got better, and now even enjoys the topic of evolution. It coincided with him getting therapy and becoming less of an angry man. Wonder if there's a link there.

100 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 4:24:41pm

re: #99 Obdicut

nah, my dad got therapy and meds and is still a wingnut.

101 darthstar  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 4:28:52pm
102 Stanghazi  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 4:29:46pm

Hey everyone!

How was you're day?

103 OhNoBenghazi!  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 4:29:52pm

re: #61 The Ghost of a Flea

If the impersonator is any good, he'll PWN Trump just like the real one did at 2011's Correspondent's Dinner.

104 kirghazi  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 4:30:22pm

re: #103 OhNoZombies!

If the impersonator is any good, he'll PWN Trump just like the real one did at 2011's Correspondent's Dinner.

Depends on how badly he wants his paycheck.

105 Lidane  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 4:30:51pm

re: #41 SpaceJesus

I wonder what Axelrod is doing right now

Laughing his ass off.

106 Benghazzy Ben Ross  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 4:31:32pm

re: #102 Stanley Sea

[Embedded content]

Hey everyone!

How was you're day?

Legitimate.

107 Gus  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 4:32:06pm

re: #102 Stanley Sea

[Embedded content]

Hey everyone!

How was you're day?

Well. It might have a margin of error of, say, about 4 percent. Which means he could have 4 percent of the black vote. Or! Negative 4 percent of the black vote.

//

108 Lidane  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 4:32:46pm

re: #56 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

*double facepalm*

Rape doesn't lead to pregnancy theory has roots in Nazi concentration camps

Up next: The "pro-life" fanatics disavow the rape/pregnancy theory because we all know that the Nazis were libruls.

/half-sarc

109 Neutral President  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 4:34:56pm

re: #56 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

*double facepalm*

Rape doesn't lead to pregnancy theory has roots in Nazi concentration camps

And here I thought that the Wingnuts just believed in Pillowpants the Vagina Troll from Clerks 2.

110 Gus  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 4:35:09pm

re: #108 Lidane

Up next: The "pro-life" fanatics disavow the rape/pregnancy theory because we all know that the Nazis were libruls.

/half-sarc

...

National SOCIALISM!!

111 Gus  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 4:36:33pm

In a strange twist... Ron Paul gets 4 percent of black voters.

Thus beating Mitt Romney.

//

112 OhNoBenghazi!  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 4:38:44pm

re: #104 kirkspencer

I would start a Leftie fund -- with commercials.
Sarah Mclachlan would sing 'In the Arms of Angels', and our little hearts would be bleeding everywhere.
Won't you please help the man who PWNED Donald Trump?

113 Lidane  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 4:42:45pm

Hmmm...

Limbaugh Dismantles Akin’s Junk Science, While Competitor Huckabee Guilts Rape Victims Who Have Abortions

So there’s something rather astonishing about watching Limbaugh be more reasonable on a women’s health issue than Huckabee, as has been the case as both men have covered Rep. Todd Akin’s deplorable remarks about whether women can get pregnant as the result of rape. In the midst of peddling conspiracy theories about poll sampling and nailing down his pro-life bona fides, Limbaugh made a fairly good point on his show today: that comments like Akin’s are the result of a closed community reaching for any arguments they can make, no matter how specious, to convince listeners to of their position.

114 b_snark  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 4:48:13pm

re: #102 Stanley Sea

[Embedded content]

Hey everyone!

How was you're day?

In pain.

I was crawling around in the crawl space under a building pulling cat 5e for 3 hours. I'm 57 years old and almost 50lbs over weight. It didn't work well.

And I bumped my head on a joist.

115 allegro  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 4:51:59pm

re: #114 b_sharp

In pain.

I was crawling around in the crawl space under a building pulling cat 5e for 3 hours. I'm 57 years old and almost 50lbs over weight. It didn't work well.

And I bumped my head on a joist.

Is the joist OK?

///

116 Schadenfreude 'r' Us  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 4:54:12pm

re: #56 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

*double facepalm*

Rape doesn't lead to pregnancy theory has roots in Nazi concentration camps

Actually, it goes back to the middle ages. It was thought that a woman had to have an orgasm to conceive (after all, men have them when they ejaculate), therefore a woman who conceived had to have enjoyed the experience, therefore must not have been raped.

Almost as insane a chain of reasoning then as it is today.

117 Stanghazi  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 4:54:16pm

re: #114 b_sharp

In pain.

I was crawling around in the crawl space under a building pulling cat 5e for 3 hours. I'm 57 years old and almost 50lbs over weight. It didn't work well.

And I bumped my head on a joist.

Pulling cat 5e? Need better explanation than that.

118 allegro  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 4:56:50pm

And now for some really important news: Roger Clemens going to the minors

119 b_snark  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 4:57:22pm

re: #115 allegro

Is the joist OK?

///

I didn't ask. I was busy bleeding.

I'm a man, I can only do one thing at a time.

120 b_snark  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 4:58:34pm

re: #117 Stanley Sea

Pulling cat 5e? Need better explanation than that.

Pulling my wire. Network cable. 8 stranded, 22 gauge twisted pair wire.

121 Mentis Fugit  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 5:00:03pm

re: #116 Someone Please Beam Me Up!

Actually, it goes back to the middle ages. It was thought that a woman had to have an orgasm to conceive (after all, men have them when they ejaculate), therefore a woman who conceived had to have enjoyed the experience, therefore must not have been raped.

Almost as insane a chain of reasoning then as it is today.

Wimmin can have organasms too??!?!!

122 wrenchwench  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 5:02:31pm

re: #113 Lidane

Hmmm...

Limbaugh Dismantles Akin’s Junk Science, While Competitor Huckabee Guilts Rape Victims Who Have Abortions

Rush engages his brain on this occasion in order to show his audience that he's smarter than Huckabee, his new competitor.

123 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 5:02:41pm

re: #119 b_sharp

I didn't ask. I was busy bleeding.

I'm a man, I can only do one thing at a time.

Speaking of this, the Red Cross keeps calling me because they're down in their blood supply.

However, I'm still within the 8 week window.

Just in case anyone's feeling altruistic.

124 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 5:03:02pm

re: #122 wrenchwench

Rush engages his brain on this occasion in order to show his audience that he's smarter than Huckabee, his new competitor.

ding ding ding, we have a winna!

125 Gus  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 5:06:22pm
126 freetoken  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 5:07:27pm

re: #125 Gus

He's going for extra martyr points.

127 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 5:07:40pm

re: #125 Gus

ROFLMAO. Does he realize it's too late to drop out and have someone take his place? Not that he cares.

128 Ben G. Hazi  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 5:08:14pm

re: #114 b_sharp

In pain.

I was crawling around in the crawl space under a building pulling cat 5e for 3 hours. I'm 57 years old and almost 50lbs over weight. It didn't work well.

And I bumped my head on a joist.

Been there, done that last year when pulling Ethernet and coax in my new house last year during/right after construction.

Good times indeed...

129 William Barnett-Lewis  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 5:08:28pm

re: #114 b_sharp

In pain.

I was crawling around in the crawl space under a building pulling cat 5e for 3 hours. I'm 57 years old and almost 50lbs over weight. It didn't work well.

And I bumped my head on a joist.

Could be worse, I fell through a false ceiling once while trying to extend a 10base2 network. Our X-terms couldn't do cat 5.

130 JamesWI  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 5:09:44pm

re: #125 Gus

"The liberal media is trying to make me drop out." I didn't realize every single Republican politician in the country is now considered part of the "liberal media."

131 freetoken  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 5:10:08pm

Dana Milbank's unusually adroit insight this afternoon:

Signs of divine intervention for Republicans?

Has God forsaken the Republican Party?

Well, sit in judgment of what’s happened in the past few days:

●A report comes out that a couple dozen House Republicans engaged in an alcohol-induced frolic, in one case nude, in the Sea of Galilee, where Jesus is believed to have walked on water, calmed the storm and, nearby, turned water into wine and performed the miracle of the loaves and fishes.

●Rep. Todd Akin, Missouri’s Republican nominee for Senate, suggests there is such a thing as “legitimate rape” and purports that women’s bodies have mysterious ways to repel the seed of rapists. He spends the next 48 hours rejecting GOP leaders’ demands that he quit the race.

●Weather forecasts show that a storm, likely to grow into Hurricane Isaac, may be chugging toward . . . Tampa, where Republicans will open their quadrennial nominating convention on Monday.

Coincidence? Or part of some Intelligent Design?

[... various examples of religious idiocy]

132 b_snark  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 5:11:45pm

Charles, can I make a suggestion?

You seem to be doing some good work in making LGF Twitter friendly, which IMHO is a good thing.

If a user stays with the regular thread and doesn't use the spy, there are two sizable white spaces on either side of the comment form that can probably be used.

My suggestion is this;

When a user tweets one of the comments from the thread, append a hashtag like #LGF or #LIZARD to the the tweet. Make a floating webpage, the size of one of the white spaces, that links to a #LGF list were we can reply or retweet. If you make it a modeless dialog that we can set to be always in front, we can see the realtime effects of our tweets. Something like below.

Just a suggestion.

133 Benghazzy Ben Ross  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 5:12:38pm

re: #130 JamesWI

"The liberal media is trying to make me drop out." I didn't realize every single Republican politician in the country is now considered part of the "liberal media."

I think he's trying to fellate those few who still support him.

134 Gus  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 5:12:57pm
135 Benghazzy Ben Ross  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 5:13:50pm

re: #131 freetoken

Dana Milbank's unusually adroit insight this afternoon:

Signs of divine intervention for Republicans?

Hm.

Hmmm.

Dastardly, mischievous ideas are revealing themselves to me right now.

136 Gus  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 5:14:00pm

Notice I'm being polite. ;)

137 freetoken  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 5:14:08pm

re: #134 Gus

RINOs!

138 Stanghazi  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 5:15:16pm

re: #120 b_sharp

Pulling my wire. Network cable. 8 stranded, 22 gauge twisted pair wire.

Of course my thought was meow.

139 Gus  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 5:15:40pm

Hell. Sean Hannity was trying to get him to drop on his own show. Face to face. On Fox News...

LIBRUL MEDIA!!111ty

140 Lidane  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 5:16:05pm

Heh:

141 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 5:16:19pm

Mkay.

So I saw this story, but I'm back and forth on it.

[Link: www.abc15.com...]

First of all, suing the city is stupid. Just publicize their stupidity so they'll change the rule. If the water were commercially packaged, I don't see the problem.

Secondly, the story doesn't say whether you had to talk about Jesus with her. It appears, from her comments, that the religious talk was optional, and she was expressing her religious beliefs by helping people out.

In which case, that's what Christianity is supposed to be. Standing outside when it's 112, giving other people water. Of course, Jesus doesn't require stupidity, so you could stand in the shade.

142 Ben G. Hazi  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 5:16:28pm

re: #139 Gus

Hell. Sean Hannity was trying to get him to drop on his own show. Face to face. On Fox News...

LIBRUL MEDIA!!111ty

No one ever said that RWNJs were founts of logic...

143 b_snark  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 5:16:46pm

re: #129 William Barnett-Lewis

Could be worse, I fell through a false ceiling once while trying to extend a 10base2 network. Our X-terms couldn't do cat 5.

I wired a school with 10base2 back in 1999. I then re-wired it to 10baseT in 2004.

Lots of fun.

I've never fallen through the ceiling though, I'm not much of a ceiling cat, I'm more of a basement cat.

144 wrenchwench  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 5:16:56pm

re: #138 Stanley Sea

Of course my thought was meow.

As in, his cat was named 5e? OK, yeah, b_sharp could be that weird.

145 sattv4u2  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 5:18:13pm

re: #143 b_sharp

I wired a school with 10base2 back in 1999. I then re-wired it to 10baseT in 2004
\

Stop

You're making me hot!

146 b_snark  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 5:18:15pm

re: #136 Gus

Notice I'm being polite. ;)

Yes, I did. What's wrong?

147 Charles Johnson  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 5:18:38pm

re: #134 Gus

148 b_snark  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 5:18:57pm

re: #138 Stanley Sea

Of course my thought was meow.

My cats eat my hand if I pull their tails.

149 Gus  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 5:20:31pm

re: #147 Charles Johnson

[Embedded content]

Unbelievable. I sent him one more:

150 Lidane  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 5:20:56pm

Just in case you don't already feel old:

151 freetoken  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 5:21:51pm

re: #147 Charles Johnson

The rabid right online is really trying to rally for Akin.

152 Kragarghazi  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 5:21:52pm

re: #147 Charles Johnson

[Embedded content]

Bryan Fischer said Akin was raped by the Liberal media. All this media attention must be God's will. He should accept the blessing he had been given.

153 PhillyPretzel  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 5:22:36pm

re: #149 Gus

Some people do not know how to make an exit let alone a graceful one.

154 Lidane  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 5:23:18pm
155 Digital Display  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 5:25:06pm

I spent the weekend in the Ozarks.. Sunday I posted that the backlash Ads on TV were the most devastating Political ads I had ever seen in my lifetime.
I predicted ( Big deal anybody could see it ) That Akins was dead meat.. Fucking period Amen..
After an 18 hour snooze in Oklahoma Winston and I woke up to Rove saying there was no way Akins could survive this. No Shit? I can proudly say I'm way ahead of Rove in the Political world..( I could make millions..Does he have a daughter I could marry? )

156 The Ghost of a Benghazi Flea  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 5:26:25pm

re: #152 Kragar

Bryan Fischer said Akin was raped by the Liberal media. All this media attention must be God's will. He should accept the blessing he had been given.

If he wins, it is going to be spun as God's Will, you realize. This will have been a trial sent to test the GOP and demarcate the sincere from the RINO.

The spiral of ideological purity is one hell of drug.

157 Targetpractice  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 5:26:59pm

re: #150 Lidane

Just in case you don't already feel old:

[Embedded content]

Kurt Cobain? Who was that?

///

158 Stanghazi  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 5:27:03pm

Taking the Palin stance. Blame the lamestream liberal media for your egregious faults.

It happened, it will keep happening.

Hey, it's not morning, but has anyone posted Biden's comment about squealing pigs??

hahaha. See tomorrow @ 8.

159 b_snark  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 5:27:47pm

re: #144 wrenchwench

As in, his cat was named 5e? OK, yeah, b_sharp could be that weird.

;-P

160 b_snark  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 5:29:49pm

re: #157 Targetpractice

Kurt Cobain? Who was that?

///

Smack!

161 CuriousLurker  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 5:30:51pm
...and the paranoid xenophobic fantasy that Islamic law is about to take over the courtrooms of America: GOP Embraces Anti-Shariah.

Great. Just freaking wonderful.

Hey, Muslims—TAG—you're it!!11!

*headdesk*

162 PhillyPretzel  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 5:37:54pm

re: #161 CuriousLurker

I wonder how they would react to this guy. [Link: encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com...]

163 Interesting Times in Benghazi  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 5:39:27pm

re: #161 CuriousLurker

My personal theory is that most of that anti-Muslim demagoguery (at least in the US at this time) is a deeply evil and cynical ploy to throw more fuel onto the hate-Obama fire - if you saw the #thingsThatEnrageRepublicans tag, one of the dribbling wingnuts who trolled it spewed forth a slew of epithets against the president, "Muslim" being one. Talentless hack Hank Williams Jr. did the same thing. Hate Obama, hate anything connected to him, no matter how tenuous that connection may be. And if innocent people are harmed in the process, eh, who cares? realpolitik to protect the Koch Brothers' tax breaks.

/gag

164 CuriousLurker  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 5:42:34pm

re: #162 PhillyPretzel

I wonder how they would react to this guy. [Link: encyclopedia.thefreedictionary.com...]

LOL, no kidding.

BTW, I'll have you know that I think of you every time I go to The Free Dictionay site. Every. Single. Time. ;)

165 PhillyPretzel  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 5:43:53pm

re: #164 CuriousLurker

Thanks. I got the website from a student I was tutoring a few years ago. I have used it ever since.

166 CuriousLurker  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 5:47:16pm

re: #163 Interesting Times

My personal theory is that most of that anti-Muslim demagoguery (at least in the US at this time) is a deeply evil and cynical ploy to throw more fuel onto the hate-Obama fire - if you saw the #thingsThatEnrageRepublicans tag, one of the dribbling wingnuts who trolled it spewed forth a slew of epithets against the president, "Muslim" being one. Talentless hack Hank Williams Jr. did the same thing. Hate Obama, hate anything connected to him, no matter how tenuous that connection may be. And if innocent people are harmed in the process, eh, who cares? realpolitik to protect the Koch Brothers' tax breaks.

/gag

I suspect you're right. I think they may also be planning to push things to the limit with Muslims in order to try to force him (and maybe other Dems) to react in some way to defend us, then *BOOM* they'll be all over him. He's pretty smart though, so I hope he's thinking a few steps ahead of them.

167 William Barnett-Lewis  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 5:51:07pm

re: #157 Targetpractice

Kurt Cobain? Who was that?

///

A lamestream pop musician?

(g,d & r)

168 Mostly sane, most of the time.  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 7:02:35pm

re: #150 Lidane

Just in case you don't already feel old:

[Embedded content]

When I entered college, Janis Joplin had always been dead.

169 CriticalDragon1177  Tue, Aug 21, 2012 8:55:53pm

Charles Johnson

Hopefully all the republicans who endorse this anti sharia craze will go down in flames come next election. We really don't need more bigoted discriminatory laws.

170 Dr Lizardo  Wed, Aug 22, 2012 6:30:23am

re: #161 CuriousLurker

Great. Just freaking wonderful.

*headdesk*

Someone better not tell the wingnuts and the GOP there's a frieze of Muhammad (saas) in the Supreme Court Building as one of the "lawgivers of history";it's on the North Frieze. On his left is Charlemagne, and to his right is the Byzantine Emperor Justinian.

IT'S TEH CRREEPING SHARIAH!11! AND ITZ BEEN CRREEPING FOR A LONG TIME, OMG!11ty! ///

171 CuriousLurker  Wed, Aug 22, 2012 6:35:00am

re: #170 Dr Lizardo

LOL, I totally forgot about that!

ZOMG, it's been the Supreme Sharia Court all along!!11! Someone get Michele Bachmann on the phone stat!

172 Dr Lizardo  Wed, Aug 22, 2012 6:59:23am

re: #171 CuriousLurker

LOL, I totally forgot about that!

TAT'S WHY JUSTIS ROBERTS RULED FOR OBAMACARE!!! HE'S A SEEKRIT AYATOLLAH !!11! ///


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