Old School Sunday Night Open Thread
What can you even say about the open thread? It’s open. It’s a thread. It wants to be filled with comments.
This is how I write while waiting for the season premier of The Walking Dead to start…
What can you even say about the open thread? It’s open. It’s a thread. It wants to be filled with comments.
This is how I write while waiting for the season premier of The Walking Dead to start…
1 | Kragar Sun, Oct 14, 2012 6:06:06pm |
Bit the bullet and spent the day cleaning out the bedroom.
I'm spent.
2 | erik_t Sun, Oct 14, 2012 6:06:32pm |
They made a reality show of Scott Brown's campaign staff?
3 | Mostly sane, most of the time. Sun, Oct 14, 2012 6:06:58pm |
*Tries desperately to come up with something witty and earth shattering*
*Fails*
4 | Kragar Sun, Oct 14, 2012 6:07:16pm |
Flip side of cleaning the bedroom, I don't have a fucking clue where anything is anymore.
5 | Page 3 in the Binder of Women Sun, Oct 14, 2012 6:08:59pm |
re: #3 Mostly sane, most of the time.
*Tries desperately to come up with something witty and earth shattering*
*Fails*
Cleaning bedroom is trending. I'm thinking of making a breakfast sandwich for dinner. whooooo.
Watching premier of Walking Dead. For the first time in my memory they are showing a premier on the west coast in the same time as the east coast.
Pretty impressive.
7 | Mostly sane, most of the time. Sun, Oct 14, 2012 6:09:40pm |
re: #5 Stanley Sea
Cleaning bedroom is trending. I'm thinking of making a breakfast sandwich for dinner. whooooo.
Watching premier of Walking Dead. For the first time in my memory they are showing a premier on the west coast in the same time as the east coast.
Pretty impressive.
My bedroom needs cleaning, but you see, the rest of the house requires cleaning as well, and other people see that part.
8 | Targetpractice Sun, Oct 14, 2012 6:10:32pm |
re: #1 Kragar
Bit the bullet and spent the day cleaning out the bedroom.
I'm spent.
Meanwhile, I did something constructive...by building up my squad for the final mission in XCOM. Only planted 'bout half of them, including two of my three espers.
9 | Dark_Falcon Sun, Oct 14, 2012 6:12:40pm |
I'm hoping the Texans knock the Packers for another loss.
10 | Kragar Sun, Oct 14, 2012 6:12:56pm |
re: #8 Targetpractice
Meanwhile, I did something constructive...by building up my squad for the final mission in XCOM. Only planted 'bout half of them, including two of my three espers.
Finished my first run thru last night, only had one Psyker. Kind of anticlimactic. Mind controlled a Muton and charged him in as a scout, the last room agroed and the Ethereal charged forward and got cut down in reaction fire.
11 | Dark_Falcon Sun, Oct 14, 2012 6:14:18pm |
13 | AntonSirius Sun, Oct 14, 2012 6:17:08pm |
Imani/ABL just put it up on her site and Balloon Juice, but ex-South Carolina Gov Mark Sanford said about the second debate, "Obama’s going to come out in this case much more forcefully, and he’s going to throw a lot of spears."
That's more of a fog horn than a dog whistle. Sheesh.
14 | Targetpractice Sun, Oct 14, 2012 6:18:18pm |
re: #10 Kragar
Finished my first run thru last night, only had one Psyker. Kind of anticlimactic. Mind controlled a Muton and charged him in as a scout, the last room agroed and the Ethereal charged forward and got cut down in reaction fire.
That's all I have right now, remarkably she's one of only two that's been around since pretty much the beginning. The first bought it in the Overseer attack, and the second died because she missed the second shot against an Ethereal. 75% chance to hit and she missed it at close range. Never have I wanted so much to throw a computer out the window.
15 | Lidane Sun, Oct 14, 2012 6:19:43pm |
I'm not watching The Walking Dead until the 9pm showing. If anyone here spoils this episode for me, imma get all Hulk Smash up in here.
16 | Dark_Falcon Sun, Oct 14, 2012 6:20:04pm |
re: #13 AntonSirius
Imani/ABL just put it up on her site and Balloon Juice, but ex-South Carolina Gov Mark Sanford said about the second debate, "Obama’s going to come out in this case much more forcefully, and he’s going to throw a lot of spears."
That's more of a fog horn than a dog whistle. Sheesh.
Obama should reply by saying: "How about you and I settle this in a 10 mile race on the Appalachian Trail?"
17 | Kragar Sun, Oct 14, 2012 6:21:02pm |
re: #14 Targetpractice
That's all I have right now, remarkably she's one of only two that's been around since pretty much the beginning. The first bought it in the Overseer attack, and the second died because she missed the second shot against an Ethereal. 75% chance to hit and she missed it at close range. Never have I wanted so much to throw a computer out the window.
Run and Gun, 100% chance to hit, and ... MISSED!
GDIAF!!!!
Was running a heavy, a sniper, a medic support, a rifle support, and 2 assault
18 | Dark_Falcon Sun, Oct 14, 2012 6:21:05pm |
re: #10 Kragar
Finished my first run thru last night, only had one Psyker. Kind of anticlimactic. Mind controlled a Muton and charged him in as a scout, the last room agroed and the Ethereal charged forward and got cut down in reaction fire.
Did you get to see Looper?
19 | Page 3 in the Binder of Women Sun, Oct 14, 2012 6:21:25pm |
re: #15 Lidane
I'm not watching The Walking Dead until the 9pm showing. If anyone here spoils this episode for me, imma get all Hulk Smash up in here.
hee.
20 | Kaessa Sun, Oct 14, 2012 6:22:04pm |
Spent the day in my pajamas surfing the net with a cat on my lap most of the day. Oh, and pain pills.
I need to buy Guild Wars 2 and start playing an MMO again.
21 | Kragar Sun, Oct 14, 2012 6:22:05pm |
re: #18 Dark_Falcon
Did you get to see Looper?
No, I vaguely know its a time travel something or other but wasn't paying it any attention.
22 | Gus Sun, Oct 14, 2012 6:22:41pm |
@gottalaff @marnus3 @nytupelo7 @motherjones Mao Tse-Mitt twitter.com/Gus_802/status...— Gus (@Gus_802) October 15, 2012
23 | Sheila Broflovski Sun, Oct 14, 2012 6:23:36pm |
I started watching Walking Dead but I just can't get into it.
1. Where do they get gas for their cars?
2. If zombies are already dead, how does shooting, stabbing or impaling them make them deader? Don't they just get back up again?
24 | Kaessa Sun, Oct 14, 2012 6:24:15pm |
re: #18 Dark_Falcon
Did you get to see Looper?
We saw that last night. It was much better than I thought it would be.
25 | Dark_Falcon Sun, Oct 14, 2012 6:24:56pm |
re: #21 Kragar
No, I vaguely know its a time travel something or other but wasn't paying it any attention.
You should, since its good. And though its a slight spoiler, I can tell you that part of the story is the emergence of visible Psyker powers. At first just as parlor tricks, but later... [stopping to ensure I'm not going to cause a problem by continuing]
26 | Kragar Sun, Oct 14, 2012 6:25:03pm |
re: #23 Sheila Broflovski
I started watching Walking Dead but I just can't get into it.
1. Where do they get gas for their cars?
2. If zombies are already dead, how does shooting, stabbing or impaling them make them deader? Don't they just get back up again?
1. Siphoning, plus they're on foot most of the time.
2. Destruction of the brain or spinal column stops the body.
27 | Bob Dillon Sun, Oct 14, 2012 6:25:07pm |
Anyone feel there may be teething issues with the server? Sometimes rocket fast - sometime hesitation.
28 | Mocking Jay Sun, Oct 14, 2012 6:25:59pm |
Oh thank Jeebus the comic con is over. I just want to curl up into a ball. So sick of Walking Dead... their faces were on all of the badges.
29 | b_sharp Sun, Oct 14, 2012 6:26:10pm |
re: #23 Sheila Broflovski
I started watching Walking Dead but I just can't get into it.
1. Where do they get gas for their cars?
2. If zombies are already dead, how does shooting, stabbing or impaling them make them deader? Don't they just get back up again?
They're controlled by a virus in their brains that triggers electrical impulses to their muscles. A hit to the brain severs the nerves. This was 'splained in season 1 CDC visit.
30 | JamesWI Sun, Oct 14, 2012 6:26:17pm |
re: #23 Sheila Broflovski
I started watching Walking Dead but I just can't get into it.
1. Where do they get gas for their cars?
2. If zombies are already dead, how does shooting, stabbing or impaling them make them deader? Don't they just get back up again?
1. They've shown them siphoning other cars occasionally, though that doesn't take into account that gas doesn't stay good for that long.
2. These zombies come back when the virus or whatever causes some minimal brain activity, so killing the brain still works.
31 | Bob Dillon Sun, Oct 14, 2012 6:26:42pm |
re: #18 Dark_Falcon
Did you get to see Looper?
Saw Looper a few days ago. Impressed. Better than I expected.
32 | Kragar Sun, Oct 14, 2012 6:26:46pm |
re: #25 Dark_Falcon
You should, since its good. And though its a slight spoiler, I can tell you that part of the story is the emergence of visible Psyker powers. At first just as parlor tricks, but later... [stopping to ensure I'm not going to cause a problem by continuing]
I will eventually at some point. We don't go out to movies unless its a big one.
33 | Page 3 in the Binder of Women Sun, Oct 14, 2012 6:27:16pm |
re: #15 Lidane
I'm not watching The Walking Dead until the 9pm showing. If anyone here spoils this episode for me, imma get all Hulk Smash up in here.
Turn off your twitter.
34 | Mocking Jay Sun, Oct 14, 2012 6:27:20pm |
re: #15 Lidane
I'm not watching The Walking Dead until the 9pm showing. If anyone here spoils this episode for me, imma get all Hulk Smash up in here.
They see dead people...
35 | Lidane Sun, Oct 14, 2012 6:27:43pm |
re: #23 Sheila Broflovski
I started watching Walking Dead but I just can't get into it.
1. Where do they get gas for their cars?
2. If zombies are already dead, how does shooting, stabbing or impaling them make them deader? Don't they just get back up again?
Kragar answered 1 and 2.
The main thing to realize about The Walking Dead is that the title doesn't refer to the zombies. It refers to the survivors. The zombies themselves are an ever-present danger, but the real threat comes from all the other survivors that you meet.
36 | Dark_Falcon Sun, Oct 14, 2012 6:27:50pm |
re: #32 Kragar
I will eventually at some point. We don't go out to movies unless its a big one.
May I post the spoiler? It's something I want your reaction to. I can do so in a way as it won't give away everything.
37 | Sheila Broflovski Sun, Oct 14, 2012 6:28:28pm |
Next question: Has anyone watched Revolution? Is it worth watching?
38 | Lidane Sun, Oct 14, 2012 6:29:33pm |
re: #33 Stanley Sea
Turn off your twitter.
Heh. The last place I'd go right now is Twitter. Not until after I watch the episode and also watch Talking Dead afterwards.
39 | b_sharp Sun, Oct 14, 2012 6:29:43pm |
re: #33 Stanley Sea
Turn off your twitter.
You stop tweeting spoilers!
I had to turn off twitter 'cause of you.
Bad. Bad.
40 | MittDoesNotCompute Sun, Oct 14, 2012 6:29:55pm |
re: #11 Dark_Falcon
Here's one for you rock fans who lean left:
41 | Kragar Sun, Oct 14, 2012 6:30:30pm |
re: #36 Dark_Falcon
May I post the spoiler? It's something I want your reaction to. I can do so in a way as it won't give away everything.
I don't mind. I can't remember the last time a movie really surprised me.
OK, I take that back. There was a B horror movie with Jessica Biel that had a nice twist to it, but that was it.
42 | Targetpractice Sun, Oct 14, 2012 6:30:48pm |
re: #35 Lidane
Kragar answered 1 and 2.
The main thing to realize about The Walking Dead is that the title doesn't refer to the zombies. It refers to the survivors. The zombies themselves are an ever-present danger, but the real threat comes from all the other survivors that you meet.
The Walking Dead is very much a Romero-style zombie apocalypse. The virus or whatever it is reanimates even those who die from means other than bites, the struggle is more against other humans than the walkers, and overarching theme is surviving in a world where humanity is no longer the top of the food chain.
43 | b_sharp Sun, Oct 14, 2012 6:30:48pm |
re: #35 Lidane
Kragar answered 1 and 2.
The main thing to realize about The Walking Dead is that the title doesn't refer to the zombies. It refers to the survivors. The zombies themselves are an ever-present danger, but the real threat comes from all the other survivors that you meet.
It's a commentary on human nature.
44 | Lidane Sun, Oct 14, 2012 6:33:57pm |
OK. While I wait to watch The Walking Dead, I just saw this. It looks so badass. This is a film after my own heart:
45 | Gus Sun, Oct 14, 2012 6:34:42pm |
@gottalaff Here's a black and white vintage photo version. Romney's secret past revealed!! twitter.com/Gus_802/status...— Gus (@Gus_802) October 15, 2012
46 | Mattand Sun, Oct 14, 2012 6:35:23pm |
re: #35 Lidane
Kragar answered 1 and 2.
The main thing to realize about The Walking Dead is that the title doesn't refer to the zombies. It refers to the survivors. The zombies themselves are an ever-present danger, but the real threat comes from all the other survivors that you meet.
re: #43 Gangnam Style
It's a commentary on human nature.
Huh. Never put 2 and 2 together on that. Pretty cool.
47 | KoolEarl Sun, Oct 14, 2012 6:35:54pm |
Gravis Marketing: CO: Obama up 48-46
Not familiar with this firm or their reputation/track record
48 | Sheila Broflovski Sun, Oct 14, 2012 6:36:12pm |
Walking Dead is just not my cup of tea. I'm just not into zombie movies. Well, I liked Zombieland and Shawn of the Dead, but I don't like serious zombie drama.
49 | Gus Sun, Oct 14, 2012 6:36:35pm |
re: #47 KoolEarl
Gravis Marketing: CO: Obama up 48-46
Not familiar with this firm or their reputation/track record
Former fax bomber marketing guy.
50 | JamesWI Sun, Oct 14, 2012 6:37:19pm |
re: #47 KoolEarl
Gravis Marketing: CO: Obama up 48-46
Not familiar with this firm or their reputation/track record
They've released some of the worst polls I've ever seen, usually skewed heavily for Republicans . I believe it was their last Colorado poll where they had Mitt winning 56% of the black vote.
51 | Kragar Sun, Oct 14, 2012 6:37:26pm |
re: #48 Sheila Broflovski
Walking Dead is just not my cup of tea. I'm just not into zombie movies. Well, I liked Zombieland and Shawn of the Dead, but I don't like serious zombie drama.
I waiting for World War Z. The book was good and I hope they didn't butcher it in the film. Hopefully they keep the battle of Yonkers in it.
52 | goddamnedfrank Sun, Oct 14, 2012 6:37:27pm |
How long will a decapitated zombie head continue to try and bite? The zombies have no metabolic needs, require no food or oxygen?
I'm seeing an appalling lack of hygienic precaution on the part of the survivors.
53 | b_sharp Sun, Oct 14, 2012 6:37:38pm |
re: #48 Sheila Broflovski
Walking Dead is just not my cup of tea. I'm just not into zombie movies. Well, I liked Zombieland and Shawn of the Dead, but I don't like serious zombie drama.
My two favourite zombie movies.
54 | MittDoesNotCompute Sun, Oct 14, 2012 6:37:49pm |
re: #47 KoolEarl
Gravis Marketing: CO: Obama up 48-46
Not familiar with this firm or their reputation/track record
Don't trust them...there was some issues here with a survey they did 2-3 weeks ago, because it looked really shaky like complete and total fantasy.
55 | b_sharp Sun, Oct 14, 2012 6:38:52pm |
re: #52 goddamnedfrank
How long will a decapitated zombie head continue to try and bite? The zombies have no metabolic needs, require no food or oxygen?
I'm seeing an appalling lack of hygienic precaution on the part of the survivors.
Everyone has the virus. Once they die they become.
56 | Dark_Falcon Sun, Oct 14, 2012 6:39:25pm |
re: #41 Kragar
I don't mind. I can't remember the last time a movie really surprised me.
OK, I take that back. There was a B horror movie with Jessica Biel that had a nice twist to it, but that was it.
It turns out the 'Big Bad' in the movie is the first truly powerful Psyker (though the power is called telekenisis), so strong as to be able to cause someone's heart to be crushed simply by willing it. When I saw that it kind of made a 40K connection for me, especially as the mild version of the power is presented as a kind of limited 'step up' for humans.
57 | Targetpractice Sun, Oct 14, 2012 6:39:57pm |
re: #51 Kragar
I waiting for World War Z. The book was good and I hope they didn't butcher it in the film. Hopefully they keep the battle of Yonkers in it.
If the Battle of Yonkers on film looks anything like this, it will be supremely awesome. Though, I've heard talk that they're looking at the possibility of stretching the whole story out over three movies, rather than just one.
58 | Mattand Sun, Oct 14, 2012 6:40:04pm |
Speaking of horror shows: did anyone catch the O'Reilly/Stewart debate? Was it worth it? Did Bill O set a new smugness per minute ratio? Did Stewart hold back because, for some reason, he wants Bill back on the Daily Show?
59 | Kragar Sun, Oct 14, 2012 6:40:18pm |
re: #52 goddamnedfrank
How long will a decapitated zombie head continue to try and bite? The zombies have no metabolic needs, require no food or oxygen?
I'm seeing an appalling lack of hygienic precaution on the part of the survivors.
Depending on the source material in question, the general consensus is a viral zombie will survive for about 5 years before it wears itself to nothing. The virus infecting the host kills off the normal bacteria and insects which would naturally decompose the corpse.
60 | Targetpractice Sun, Oct 14, 2012 6:40:41pm |
re: #59 Kragar
Depending on the source material in question, the general consensus is a viral zombie will survive for about 5 years before it wears itself to nothing. The virus infecting the host kills off the normal bacteria and insects which would naturally decompose the corpse.
Been reading the Zombie Survival Guide again?
61 | b_sharp Sun, Oct 14, 2012 6:40:45pm |
re: #52 goddamnedfrank
How long will a decapitated zombie head continue to try and bite? The zombies have no metabolic needs, require no food or oxygen?
I'm seeing an appalling lack of hygienic precaution on the part of the survivors.
Viruses need live cells and blood flow to reproduce.
62 | Mattand Sun, Oct 14, 2012 6:41:04pm |
And speaking of zombies, been playing waaaaay too much Left 4 Dead 2 lately.
63 | Kragar Sun, Oct 14, 2012 6:41:45pm |
64 | Kragar Sun, Oct 14, 2012 6:42:34pm |
re: #56 Dark_Falcon
It turns out the 'Big Bad' in the movie is the first truly powerful Psyker (though the power is called telekenisis), so strong as to be able to cause someone's heart to be crushed simply by willing it. When i saw that it kind of made a 40K connection for me, especially as the mild version of the power is presented as a kind of limited 'step up' for humans.
Neat.
You ever check out Alphas?
65 | Mocking Jay Sun, Oct 14, 2012 6:43:04pm |
re: #51 Kragar
I waiting for World War Z. The book was good and I hope they didn't butcher it in the film. Hopefully they keep the battle of Yonkers in it.
Wait, they have a battle in my town?
66 | AntonSirius Sun, Oct 14, 2012 6:43:34pm |
re: #48 Sheila Broflovski
Walking Dead is just not my cup of tea. I'm just not into zombie movies. Well, I liked Zombieland and Shawn of the Dead, but I don't like serious zombie drama.
See if you can find a film called Fido that came out a few years ago. It's kind of like Pleasantville or Leave It To Beaver, but with zombies. If Shaun and Zombieland are your thing, it'll be right up your alley.
67 | Dark_Falcon Sun, Oct 14, 2012 6:43:43pm |
68 | Targetpractice Sun, Oct 14, 2012 6:44:47pm |
re: #65 Mocking Jay
Wait, they have a battle in my town?
Not so much a battle as a rout. One of the survivors interviewed for the book declares that the battle was supposed to regain people's confidence in the military and the government. Instead, the message ended up being "Kiss your ass goodbye."
69 | Sheila Broflovski Sun, Oct 14, 2012 6:44:47pm |
re: #66 AntonSirius
See if you can find a film called Fido that came out a few years ago. It's kind of like Pleasantville or Leave It To Beaver, but with zombies. If Shaun and Zombieland are your thing, it'll be right up your alley.
I enjoyed Shawn and Zombieland, but not so damn much that I want to seek out other zombie spoofs.
70 | b_sharp Sun, Oct 14, 2012 6:44:55pm |
re: #64 Kragar
Neat.
You ever check out Alphas?
First season was like a kid's show, second season has become more serious.
I do like Gary.
71 | goddamnedfrank Sun, Oct 14, 2012 6:45:01pm |
re: #55 Gangnam Style
Everyone has the virus. Once they die they become.
Then why did that one guy die from a zombie bite in Season One? Some other kind of bacterial infection? They also cautioned against cooking and eating that deer that Daryl killed because a zombie had been gnawing on it. If they've all got the virus that wouldn't have been an issue. I'm guessing the characters don't know shit but this is season three now, I want some answers before this turns into a gigantic viewer donkey punch like LOST.
72 | Mostly sane, most of the time. Sun, Oct 14, 2012 6:45:08pm |
The family is watching Amazing Grace.
Sherlock just died, and Dumbledore is praising Wilberforce.
That's how they classify these things.
If you didn't know that William Pitt died before the abolition of the slave trade, sorry for spoiling the ending for you.
73 | b_sharp Sun, Oct 14, 2012 6:45:40pm |
re: #66 AntonSirius
See if you can find a film called Fido that came out a few years ago. It's kind of like Pleasantville or Leave It To Beaver, but with zombies. If Shaun and Zombieland are your thing, it'll be right up your alley.
Didn't like it. Not enough action.
74 | Killgore Trout Sun, Oct 14, 2012 6:45:50pm |
Taliban unhappy with press coverage of their assassination attempt on 14 year old girl. Taliban plans attacks on media
Taliban plan attacks on media outlets, journalists
According to sources, the Taliban felt that the media has become biased against them and was giving ‘undue’ coverage to the attack on Malala and portraying them as the ‘worst people on earth’.
The militants were reported to have held meetings and decided to suspend all their current operations and activities in the country and directed field comman
ders and fighters to divert their attention towards media organisations instead of the government and security forces.
In this regard, the sources said, the militants had selected12 suicide bombers and tasked them to target media organisations, particularly the electronic media and some foreign media organisations and their workers, in Peshawar, Islamabad, Lahore and Karachi and wherever they found them.
“The suicide bombers have particularly been directed to target offices, vehicles and journalists individually who had become a party and were issuing fatwas or decrees against the Taliban,” TTP sources said.
75 | KoolEarl Sun, Oct 14, 2012 6:46:17pm |
re: #50 JamesWI
Thanks James. I looked into Gravis
and it does seem like a serious bunco outfit
76 | JamesWI Sun, Oct 14, 2012 6:46:17pm |
re: #71 goddamnedfrank
Then why did that one guy die from a zombie bite in Season One? Some other kind of bacterial infection? They also cautioned against cooking and eating that deer that Daryl killed because a zombie had been gnawing on it. If they've all got the virus that wouldn't have been an issue. I'm guessing the characters don't know shit but this is season three now, I want some answers before this turns into a gigantic viewer donkey punch like LOST.
None of them knew about them all being infected until recently (except for one of them, who kept it a secret)
79 | Lidane Sun, Oct 14, 2012 6:46:57pm |
GOP Senate candidate's son: "we have the opportunity" to send Obama back to Kenyahuff.to/QmtFyh— Huffington Post (@HuffingtonPost) October 15, 2012
80 | Targetpractice Sun, Oct 14, 2012 6:47:08pm |
re: #71 goddamnedfrank
Then why did that one guy die from a zombie bite in Season One? Some other kind of bacterial infection? They also cautioned against cooking and eating that deer that Daryl killed because a zombie had been gnawing on it. If they've all got the virus that wouldn't have been an issue. I'm guessing the characters don't know shit but this is season three now, I want some answers before this turns into a gigantic viewer donkey punch like LOST.
The comic book treats everything very Romero-esque, so the bites don't transmit a virus so much as cause a massive infection from bacteria in the zombie's saliva. Remember that a person's mouth is not the cleanest thing in the world, a dead one's even less so.
81 | Lidane Sun, Oct 14, 2012 6:47:41pm |
The pull of Twitter is too strong. Back later before I spoil myself.
82 | Kragar Sun, Oct 14, 2012 6:48:02pm |
re: #67 Dark_Falcon
No, what's it about?
Its a SciFi series, first season is on Netflix, about mutant humans developing. The show follows a doctor and the team he's found working for the government to track down and stop dangerous ones.
83 | Killgore Trout Sun, Oct 14, 2012 6:49:09pm |
Zombie movies always scared me too much to enjoy. I only started to appreciate the genre after seeing 28 Days.
84 | b_sharp Sun, Oct 14, 2012 6:50:04pm |
re: #71 goddamnedfrank
Then why did that one guy die from a zombie bite in Season One? Some other kind of bacterial infection? They also cautioned against cooking and eating that deer that Daryl killed because a zombie had been gnawing on it. If they've all got the virus that wouldn't have been an issue. I'm guessing the characters don't know shit but this is season three now, I want some answers before this turns into a gigantic viewer donkey punch like LOST.
During the first year not everyone was infected and the virus was deadly. The CDC visit tried to explain it all, but I missed some of it. I'll have to re-watch that episode.
I suspect the virus mutated into a dormant strain.
85 | Dark_Falcon Sun, Oct 14, 2012 6:50:23pm |
re: #74 Killgore Trout
Taliban unhappy with press coverage of their assassination attempt on 14 year old girl. Taliban plans attacks on media
Taliban plan attacks on media outlets, journalistsders and fighters to divert their attention towards media organisations instead of the government and security forces.
In this regard, the sources said, the militants had selected12 suicide bombers and tasked them to target media organisations, particularly the electronic media and some foreign media organisations and their workers, in Peshawar, Islamabad, Lahore and Karachi and wherever they found them.
“The suicide bombers have particularly been directed to target offices, vehicles and journalists individually who had become a party and were issuing fatwas or decrees against the Taliban,” TTP sources said.
That's the signature tactic of a morally bankrupt insurgency; When they get caught having done something hideous, their reaction is to attack those who call it hideous. Sadly, Pakistan being Pakistan, it may well work. It's not really that hard to kill a reporter over there, and most people become far less willing to speak the truth once its been demonstrated that there are people willing and able to kill you for doing so. It's even worse for news agencies, as they have offices that in many cases cannot be adequately hardened against a VBIED.
86 | Kragar Sun, Oct 14, 2012 6:50:41pm |
re: #70 Gangnam Style
First season was like a kid's show, second season has become more serious.
I do like Gary.
It did develop over the first season, which I liked. Haven't watched the second season at all yet.
87 | Dark_Falcon Sun, Oct 14, 2012 6:50:44pm |
88 | b_sharp Sun, Oct 14, 2012 6:51:35pm |
re: #74 Killgore Trout
Taliban unhappy with press coverage of their assassination attempt on 14 year old girl. Taliban plans attacks on media
Taliban plan attacks on media outlets, journalistsders and fighters to divert their attention towards media organisations instead of the government and security forces.
In this regard, the sources said, the militants had selected12 suicide bombers and tasked them to target media organisations, particularly the electronic media and some foreign media organisations and their workers, in Peshawar, Islamabad, Lahore and Karachi and wherever they found them.
“The suicide bombers have particularly been directed to target offices, vehicles and journalists individually who had become a party and were issuing fatwas or decrees against the Taliban,” TTP sources said.
They turn the rest of the Muslim world against them and they'll be the ones in trouble.
89 | Dark_Falcon Sun, Oct 14, 2012 6:51:44pm |
re: #84 Gangnam Style
During the first year not everyone was infected and the virus was deadly. The CDC visit tried to explain it all, but I missed some of it. I'll have to re-watch that episode.
I suspect the virus mutated into a dormant strain.
It typically doesn't pay to quickly kill your host, even if you are a virus.
90 | goddamnedfrank Sun, Oct 14, 2012 6:52:14pm |
Wow, hypothetical speculation about stillborn fetus ripping its way out of a living Mom. AMC - our shit is dark.
91 | Killgore Trout Sun, Oct 14, 2012 6:52:24pm |
re: #85 Dark_Falcon
It's only going to change when the protests against assassinating teen girls dwarf the protests against cartoons and youtube clips. Sadly, that's not happening anytime soon.
92 | Kragar Sun, Oct 14, 2012 6:52:58pm |
re: #83 Killgore Trout
Zombie movies always scared me too much to enjoy. I only started to appreciate the genre after seeing 28 Days.
28 Days later was good. 28 Weeks later was utter and complete crap.
The original "Return of the Living Dead" always freaked me out because they had unkillable zombies. The zombies were intelligent, individual parts would keep coming, and if you burned them, the ashes could be used to reanimate more corpses.
93 | Digital Display Sun, Oct 14, 2012 6:53:04pm |
I'd like to say how much I appreciate the kind comments from all of you lizards about my late son, David. I hit a serious funk every 10-13.
Now I need to get out of bed, turn sports off, shove the laptop aside get a shower and go out to dinner. ( I haven't eaten for about 30 hours )
Go somewhere and toast him with a few shots of the most expensive booze at the Mont.
Now.. I love you guys and gals but in a few hours you cannot hold me accountable for anything I post.. Just tell me to fucking shut up and take a sleeping pill.
Regards,
The Hoopster
94 | Charles Johnson Sun, Oct 14, 2012 6:53:34pm |
re: #90 goddamnedfrank
Wow, hypothetical speculation about stillborn fetus ripping its way out of a living Mom. AMC - our shit is dark.
The TV version isn't as dark as the graphic novels. But it's close.
95 | b_sharp Sun, Oct 14, 2012 6:53:56pm |
re: #89 Dark_Falcon
It typically doesn't pay to quickly kill your host, even if you are a virus.
That's true.
96 | Dark_Falcon Sun, Oct 14, 2012 6:54:10pm |
re: #90 goddamnedfrank
Wow, hypothetical speculation about stillborn fetus ripping its way out of a living Mom. AMC - our shit is dark.
That's an abortion need even Paul Ryan would support.
97 | Sionainn Sun, Oct 14, 2012 6:54:33pm |
re: #93 Digital Display
I'd like to say how much I appreciate the kind comments from all of you lizards about my late son, David. I hit a serious funk every 10-13.
Now I need to get out of bed, turn sports off, shove the laptop aside get a shower and go out to dinner. ( I haven't eaten for about 30 hours )
Go somewhere and toast him with a few shots of the most expensive booze at the Mont.
Now.. I love you guys and gals but in a few hours you cannot hold me accountable for anything I post.. Just tell me to fucking shut up and take a sleeping pill.
Regards,
The Hoopster
{{{Hoops}}}
98 | Killgore Trout Sun, Oct 14, 2012 6:55:02pm |
For the zombie fans: an indy film that looks pretty cool
"The Battery"
99 | b_sharp Sun, Oct 14, 2012 6:55:30pm |
re: #93 Digital Display
I'd like to say how much I appreciate the kind comments from all of you lizards about my late son, David. I hit a serious funk every 10-13.
Now I need to get out of bed, turn sports off, shove the laptop aside get a shower and go out to dinner. ( I haven't eaten for about 30 hours )
Go somewhere and toast him with a few shots of the most expensive booze at the Mont.
Now.. I love you guys and gals but in a few hours you cannot hold me accountable for anything I post.. Just tell me to fucking shut up and take a sleeping pill.
Regards,
The Hoopster
Take care my friend.
100 | freetoken Sun, Oct 14, 2012 6:55:31pm |
re: #48 Sheila Broflovski
Walking Dead is just not my cup of tea. I'm just not into zombie movies. Well, I liked Zombieland and Shawn of the Dead, but I don't like serious zombie drama.
I find that WD is a bit too intense (and forcibly so) for my tastes, but it does have its merits.
101 | Dark_Falcon Sun, Oct 14, 2012 6:55:58pm |
re: #91 Killgore Trout
It's only going to change when the protests against assassinating teen girls dwarf the protests against cartoons and youtube clips. Sadly, that's not happening anytime soon.
The problem is that we don't just kill someone for protesting our actions, whereas the Taliban do. A genuine set of moral principals is quite an expensive thing. Very much worthwhile, but you pay for it.
102 | Killgore Trout Sun, Oct 14, 2012 6:57:05pm |
re: #92 Kragar
I actually think 28 Weeks had serious promise but dropped the ball. It had the bones of a great sequel but they fucked it up.
103 | geoduck Sun, Oct 14, 2012 6:57:08pm |
re: #51 Kragar
I waiting for World War Z. The book was good and I hope they didn't butcher it in the film. Hopefully they keep the battle of Yonkers in it.
Unfortunately, it sounds like they took the name and pretty much tossed the plot. The film's also had massive behind-the-scene problems and undergone extensive re-shoots, so any WWZ fans should probably dial their hopes way back.
104 | Targetpractice Sun, Oct 14, 2012 6:57:19pm |
re: #89 Dark_Falcon
It typically doesn't pay to quickly kill your host, even if you are a virus.
Not always. Consider Ebola, which basically liquifies your innards. It worked in humans for so long due to causing the victim to bleed out, spreading the infection to others when they tried to render assistance or cleanse the body for burial.
Most zombie films that deal with viruses take the bent that the purpose of creating a zombie is the virus creating an ambulatory carrier in order to actively seek out new hosts.
105 | Dark_Falcon Sun, Oct 14, 2012 6:58:39pm |
re: #104 Targetpractice
Not always. Consider Ebola, which basically liquifies your innards. It worked in humans for so long due to causing the victim to bleed out, spreading the infection to others when they tried to render assistance or cleanse the body for burial.
Most zombie films that deal with viruses take the bent that the purpose of creating a zombie is the virus creating an ambulatory carrier in order to actively seek out new hosts.
Hence my use of the word 'typically'. There a almost always exceptions to a rule.
107 | Page 3 in the Binder of Women Sun, Oct 14, 2012 7:01:01pm |
re: #90 goddamnedfrank
Wow, hypothetical speculation about stillborn fetus ripping its way out of a living Mom. AMC - our shit is dark.
walking dead. yeah
108 | Kragar Sun, Oct 14, 2012 7:01:11pm |
re: #102 Killgore Trout
I actually think 28 Weeks had serious promise but dropped the ball. It had the bones of a great sequel but they fucked it up.
I threw my hands up in disgust when they find the most valuable person in England, lock her into a military security lab, and Robert Carlyle walks in , bypassing multiple security measures and not encountering a single guard, gets infected, then immediately finds more victims to start it all over again.
109 | b_sharp Sun, Oct 14, 2012 7:01:24pm |
re: #104 Targetpractice
Not always. Consider Ebola, which basically liquifies your innards. It worked in humans for so long due to causing the victim to bleed out, spreading the infection to others when they tried to render assistance or cleanse the body for burial.
Most zombie films that deal with viruses take the bent that the purpose of creating a zombie is the virus creating an ambulatory carrier in order to actively seek out new hosts.
That uses the ES strategy of spreading quickly through blood contact. Most viruses use a different ESS. It's amazing how many strategies there are out there.
110 | Page 3 in the Binder of Women Sun, Oct 14, 2012 7:02:19pm |
re: #94 Charles Johnson
The TV version isn't as dark as the graphic novels. But it's close.
and is going to get better. only those who want to, need to watch.
meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
112 | Dark_Falcon Sun, Oct 14, 2012 7:03:08pm |
re: #108 Kragar
I threw my hands up in disgust when they find the most valuable person in England, lock her into a military security lab, and Robert Carlyle walks in , bypassing multiple security measures and not encountering a single guard, gets infected, then immediately finds more victims to start it all over again.
Indeed. I was actually watching the movie but changed the channel when I saw that. It was just such a bit of bad writing and lax standards of writer supervision that I could not suspend my disbelief over it.
113 | b_sharp Sun, Oct 14, 2012 7:03:48pm |
re: #110 Stanley Sea
and is going to get better. only those who want to, need to watch.
meeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
No more spoilers please.
114 | Mostly sane, most of the time. Sun, Oct 14, 2012 7:06:31pm |
115 | Kragar Sun, Oct 14, 2012 7:07:07pm |
116 | Mostly sane, most of the time. Sun, Oct 14, 2012 7:08:23pm |
re: #115 Kragar
Brad Pitt was his alter ego the whole time.
Bruce Willis was actually a ghost the whole time.
118 | Kragar Sun, Oct 14, 2012 7:09:40pm |
re: #116 Mostly sane, most of the time.
Bruce Willis was actually a ghost the whole time.
The bad guy was his dad.
119 | Targetpractice Sun, Oct 14, 2012 7:10:43pm |
120 | Mostly sane, most of the time. Sun, Oct 14, 2012 7:11:04pm |
121 | Dark_Falcon Sun, Oct 14, 2012 7:11:13pm |
Here's a new song from a band we all know, that bears on what we've been talking about:
122 | AntonSirius Sun, Oct 14, 2012 7:11:57pm |
re: #106 Charles Johnson
Whoa. That was intense.
I'm pleased that in the new ep there was a distinct lack of the kind of stupid, inconsistent characterizations that pretty much ruined season two for me.
123 | Kragar Sun, Oct 14, 2012 7:12:10pm |
re: #120 Mostly sane, most of the time.
They're making it out of dead people.
No one renewed. Carousel was a lie.
124 | Mostly sane, most of the time. Sun, Oct 14, 2012 7:13:08pm |
Mom's dead. He's just a schizophrenic killer.
125 | makeitstop Sun, Oct 14, 2012 7:13:40pm |
Gah. Discovery is running a show about secret societies, with Alex Jones.
In other news, my wife is aghast at the VW commercial that uses Rush's 'Fly By Night.'
127 | Sheila Broflovski Sun, Oct 14, 2012 7:14:14pm |
re: #124 Mostly sane, most of the time.
Mom's dead. He's just a schizophrenic killer.
They are proclaimed the co-winners before they can eat the poison berries!
128 | AntonSirius Sun, Oct 14, 2012 7:14:19pm |
re: #123 Kragar
No one renewed. Carousel was a lie.
He made the whole thing up based on crap pinned to the bulletin board.
131 | Kragar Sun, Oct 14, 2012 7:16:29pm |
re: #128 AntonSirius
He made the whole thing up based on crap pinned to the bulletin board.
They weren't pilgrims, they just all lived in the woods.
132 | Mostly sane, most of the time. Sun, Oct 14, 2012 7:16:36pm |
Black dies.
Dumbledore dies.
Snape was actually the good guy all along.
133 | engineer cat Sun, Oct 14, 2012 7:17:00pm |
i was thinking of putting up a page about zombie science denialists
134 | b_sharp Sun, Oct 14, 2012 7:18:34pm |
It doesn't take much to make this place peg my weird-shit-o-metre.
135 | Targetpractice Sun, Oct 14, 2012 7:19:27pm |
re: #131 Kragar
They weren't pilgrims, they just all lived in the woods.
He already killed the real guy responsible, but can't remember it.
136 | Mostly sane, most of the time. Sun, Oct 14, 2012 7:19:39pm |
re: #133 engineer cat
i was thinking of putting up a page about zombie science denialists
I think I would check the pulse of anyone denying zombies too strenuously.
Just a little suspicious, y'know.
137 | Kragar Sun, Oct 14, 2012 7:19:55pm |
Neo was a honeypot to trap hackers in the DMZ of the Machine Civilizations network so they could develop antivirus software to eliminate the Agent Smith rootkit.
138 | AntonSirius Sun, Oct 14, 2012 7:21:04pm |
re: #135 Targetpractice
He already killed the real guy responsible, but can't remember it.
I was just trying to figure out the best way to word that one...
139 | Gus Sun, Oct 14, 2012 7:21:09pm |
Let's summarize today's GOP for Sunday:
• Send Obama "back to Africa." -- Jason Thompson
• Obama will resort to being a "spear chucker." -- Mark Sanford
140 | Targetpractice Sun, Oct 14, 2012 7:21:11pm |
re: #137 Kragar
Neo was a honeypot to trap hackers in the DMZ of the Machine Civilizations network so they could develop antivirus software to eliminate the Agent Smith rootkit.
That actually makes much more sense than the movie did.
141 | Mostly sane, most of the time. Sun, Oct 14, 2012 7:21:18pm |
The Titanic hit an iceberg and sank.
Oh, wait, that wasn't exactly a surprise.
142 | Page 3 in the Binder of Women Sun, Oct 14, 2012 7:21:32pm |
I'm on poor people cable and I'm hearing 'DONT SPOIL IT?" hahaha for once.
143 | Dark_Falcon Sun, Oct 14, 2012 7:21:47pm |
re: #131 Kragar
They weren't pilgrims, they just all lived in the woods.
I'm actually planning to use one of the 'Rules' from The Village as a tagline for an upcoming Battletech game. The scenario is set on a wintery part of the planet Engadine, home to a nightmarish 3 meter tall pack predator called the Nolan. They pose a deadly risk for an conventional infantry or pilots of downed battlemechs and can even lightly damage powered battle armor.
Hence the Rule: Never enter the woods, that is where They wait.
144 | Kragar Sun, Oct 14, 2012 7:22:00pm |
re: #136 Mostly sane, most of the time.
I think I would check the pulse of anyone denying zombies too strenuously.
Just a little suspicious, y'know.
A buddy of mine in every RPG we ever played.
"And I destroy the head."
"Um, there are no zombies in this genre."
"Exactly the way I intend to keep it."
145 | Kragar Sun, Oct 14, 2012 7:24:22pm |
re: #140 Targetpractice
That actually makes much more sense than the movie did.
They tried to make it seem much more magical.
"NEO NO LONGER NEEDS TO BE PLUGGED IN!"
"So, he operates with a wireless connection now?"
"Well... yeah. Shut up."
146 | Page 3 in the Binder of Women Sun, Oct 14, 2012 7:26:10pm |
Exactly
Romney team says no tax specifics til after election.It's like Nixon's "secret plan to end Vietnam war"-and with same disastrous results.
— Jonathan Alter (@jonathanalter) October 14, 2012
147 | Targetpractice Sun, Oct 14, 2012 7:26:38pm |
re: #145 Kragar
They tried to make it seem much more magical.
"NEO NO LONGER NEEDS TO BE PLUGGED IN!"
"So, he operates with a wireless connection now?"
"Well... yeah. Shut up."
It made the end of Reloaded cool to see him do that, if only to keep us guessing until Revolutions came out. But then I saw Revolutions and spent the next week puzzling over just what the frak I'd paid to watch.
148 | Gretchen G.Tiger Sun, Oct 14, 2012 7:28:16pm |
Ok, loggin'-on from St. Louis --don't asky why.
How is life this evening with you-all?
149 | Targetpractice Sun, Oct 14, 2012 7:28:32pm |
re: #146 Stanley Sea
Exactly
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The big tell is all the talk, especially since the first debate, that the details of the tax plan will have to "negotiated" with Congress in a "bipartisan" fashion. Show of hands, how many here actually think a Romney administration and Republican House would negotiate anything with Democrats?
150 | Dark_Falcon Sun, Oct 14, 2012 7:28:45pm |
re: #146 Stanley Sea
Exactly
[Embedded content]
Nixon's plan of Vietnamization might well have worked, had Nixon not ruined its chances by covering up the Watergate Burglary.
151 | Kragar Sun, Oct 14, 2012 7:29:49pm |
re: #147 Targetpractice
It made the end of Reloaded cool to see him do that, if only to keep us guessing until Revolutions came out. But then I saw Revolutions and spent the next week puzzling over just what the frak I'd paid to watch.
My final opinion of Reloaded depended heavily on how things turned out in Revolutions.
Crap.
"Let's design mechs which need ammo run out to them, but keep an open cockpit where the pilot is exposed."
"Um, why don't we close the cockpit and arm them with those lightning guns we've got?"
"GET BACK TO THE RAVE AND LET THE GROWN UPS DO THE THINKING!"
152 | Targetpractice Sun, Oct 14, 2012 7:33:18pm |
re: #151 Kragar
My final opinion of Reloaded depended heavily on how things turned out in Revolutions.
Crap.
"Let's design mechs which need ammo run out to them, but keep an open cockpit where the pilot is exposed."
"Um, why don't we close the cockpit and arm them with those lightning guns we've got?"
"GET BACK TO THE RAVE AND LET THE GROWN UPS DO THE THINKING!"
"Our enemy is one whose primary weapons are surgically-sharp claws that can flay a man alive without any effort. So let's go ahead and build mechs with open cockpits so that we can make taking them out all the easier."
Part of the problem with applying real-world logic to movies, namely that we forget that in movie world, you gotta keep an open cockpit so you can see the actors get ripped to shreds. See also: Starship Troopers.
153 | Mostly sane, most of the time. Sun, Oct 14, 2012 7:34:17pm |
re: #148 ggt
Ok, loggin'-on from St. Louis --don't asky why.
How is life this evening with you-all?
Why?
154 | Dark_Falcon Sun, Oct 14, 2012 7:34:25pm |
re: #151 Kragar
My final opinion of Reloaded depended heavily on how things turned out in Revolutions.
Crap.
"Let's design mechs which need ammo run out to them, but keep an open cockpit where the pilot is exposed."
"Um, why don't we close the cockpit and arm them with those lightning guns we've got?"
"GET BACK TO THE RAVE AND LET THE GROWN UPS DO THE THINKING!"
The heavy machine guns (HMGs) made sense from a standpoint of continuous fire, though in reality they likely would have failed due to overheating prior to running out of ammo.
I did like the MG turrets on the Hammer, but its a scene that really made me want a World War II bomber movie, so that such a scene would be in its original place. The aircraft scene from Tron: Legacy made me feel the same way. I'd like a movie about a B-25 or A-26 crew during WWII, so audiences could see the origin of such scenes.
155 | Kragar Sun, Oct 14, 2012 7:35:03pm |
re: #152 Targetpractice
"Our enemy is one whose primary weapons are surgically-sharp claws that can flay a man alive without any effort. So let's go ahead and build mechs with open cockpits so that we can make taking them out all the easier."
Part of the problem with applying real-world logic to movies, namely that we forget that in movie world, you gotta keep an open cockpit so you can see the actors get ripped to shreds. See also: Starship Troopers.
Except it works just fine with Robert Downey in Iron Man.
156 | Targetpractice Sun, Oct 14, 2012 7:35:44pm |
re: #155 Kragar
Except it works just fine with Robert Downey in Iron Man.
Further demonstrating the awesomeness that is Robert Downey Jr.
157 | Dark_Falcon Sun, Oct 14, 2012 7:36:39pm |
re: #155 Kragar
Except it works just fine with Robert Downey in Iron Man.
Yes, but he's the namesake character, so he has to survive no matter what. He has the greatest of all movie powers on his side: Producer/Writer Fiat.
158 | AntonSirius Sun, Oct 14, 2012 7:39:18pm |
re: #152 Targetpractice
See also: Starship Troopers.
Except that things like that are supposed to be appallingly ludicrous and stupid in Starship Troopers...
159 | Targetpractice Sun, Oct 14, 2012 7:39:51pm |
re: #157 Dark_Falcon
Yes, but he's the namesake character, so he has to survive no matter what. He has the greatest of all movie powers on his side: Producer/Writer Fiat.
It's also because, as the main hero, his armor is distinctive and thus as much a part of the character. There's a limit to the customization of mechs if you intend to mass-produce them, as you would need to for a military force of any significant size.
160 | Kragar Sun, Oct 14, 2012 7:40:20pm |
re: #157 Dark_Falcon
Yes, but he's the namesake character, so he has to survive no matter what. He has the greatest of all movie powers on his side: Producer/Writer Fiat.
Doesn't matter, you can still see nameless trooper #3 get ripped out of his perfectly reasonable full environmental armor as opposed to tossing him in BMX gear and saying "Fuck it, close enough."
I'm talking to you, Verhoeven!
161 | Targetpractice Sun, Oct 14, 2012 7:43:47pm |
re: #160 Kragar
Doesn't matter, you can still see nameless trooper #3 get ripped out of his perfectly reasonable full environmental armor as opposed to tossing him in BMX gear and saying "Fuck it, close enough."
I'm talking to you, Verhoeven!
Well yeah, but at the same time, watching power armored soldiers drop in from orbit and reduce most of an enemy force to slag in under 30 minutes wouldn't be as "cool."
162 | Kragar Sun, Oct 14, 2012 7:54:45pm |
re: #161 Targetpractice
Well yeah, but at the same time, watching power armored soldiers drop in from orbit and reduce most of an enemy force to slag in under 30 minutes wouldn't be as "cool."
Except the bugs defeated them in the book at the first battle of Klendathu
163 | Targetpractice Sun, Oct 14, 2012 7:57:09pm |
re: #162 Kragar
Except the bugs defeated them in the book at the first battle of Klendathu
Quantity has a quality all of its own.
164 | Kragar Sun, Oct 14, 2012 7:59:44pm |
re: #163 Targetpractice
Quantity has a quality all of its own.
"Statistically, you will almost certainly die when assaulting a well-maintained fortress with a competent commander. You must strive to make your death useful." - Training Manual, Imperial penal legion
165 | Page 3 in the Binder of Women Sun, Oct 14, 2012 8:01:06pm |
re: #150 Dark_Falcon
Nixon's plan of Vietnamization might well have worked, had Nixon not ruined its chances by covering up the Watergate Burglary.
Oh really.
166 | Dark_Falcon Sun, Oct 14, 2012 8:09:53pm |
re: #165 Stanley Sea
Oh really.
Yes, really. Had Nixon not ruined his credibility, he would likely have been able to keep aid flowing to South Vietnam, as well as maintain the threat of air strikes if North Vietnam attacked the South again. That would have given Vietnamization a chance to work. By 1972 the Vietnam War was far more conventional than it had been in 1968, as the Viet Cong had been mostly destroyed in the Tet Offensive. The ARVN had a good chance to repel conventional offensives if they were properly supported. But Nixon threw away that chance along with his presidency, thrown away through mendacity and cluelessness to the point of stupidity.
167 | Kragar Sun, Oct 14, 2012 8:17:56pm |
I think its fair to say that without Watergate, Nixon would have been remembered as one of the more noted President to have served, looking at his work with China, setting up the EPA and other environmental acts, work in Vietnam, etc.
Instead, we had Watergate and his legacy went to crap.
168 | wheat-dogg Sun, Oct 14, 2012 8:24:19pm |
re: #113 Gangnam Style
No more spoilers please.
They're actually twins, and the bad guy is their father.
169 | AntonSirius Sun, Oct 14, 2012 8:44:03pm |
re: #168 wheatdogg
They're actually twins, and the bad guy is their father.
I thought it was that they were twins, and the other brother hides in the second cabinet.
170 | Lidane Sun, Oct 14, 2012 8:52:18pm |
re: #137 Kragar
Neo was a honeypot to trap hackers in the DMZ of the Machine Civilizations network so they could develop antivirus software to eliminate the Agent Smith rootkit.
I gave up on that series with the second film. I knew it was a bad sign when I fell asleep in the theater during the rave scene and didn't wake up until about 20 minutes before the end.
Never bothered to re-watch the second film and I've never seen the third.