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1 b_Snark  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 3:04:09pm

Too many layers.

2 freetoken  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 3:05:44pm

Hah, this reminds me of a comment I left downstairs:

National Racists Online still demonstrating how willing they are to do whatever possible to avoid accepting the truth:

Buzzfeed’s Illiterate Insinuation

See, the real problem is leftist illiterates like Buzzfeed, not the reality about which the whole story ought to be about.

That NRO article includes this:

[...] Conservatives and Republicans have for too long ceded pop culture’s influence to the Left. If we continue to allow progressives to construct a linear historical narrative that casts conservatives and the Republican party as the villains in every piece, we can kiss goodbye to ever winning a national election again.

One thing is clear, the"conservatives and Republicans" certainly have ceded the Onion to that evul "left".

3 austin_blue  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 3:07:01pm

So close to believable it's scary.

4 freetoken  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 3:07:22pm

Good news - not today:

Warming study forsees state water shortage

The future of water for drinking and irrigation looks increasingly bleak throughout California and the world's northern regions as the changing global climate shrinks mountain snowpacks and speeds early runoffs, Stanford researchers forecast.

Decreases in winter snowpacks are likely to be most noticeable during the next 30 years and will continue to shrink through the century, according to an analysis of future climate trends by a team of specialists led by Noah Diffenbaugh at Stanford's Department of Environmental Earth System Science.

"One clear result is that western North America shows the most rapid and largest response to the continued emissions of greenhouse gases when it comes to early snowmelt and spring runoff," Diffenbaugh said.

The result, he and his colleagues say, will be less runoff water for irrigation during the season when California's high-value crops need it most for growing, and also more early springtime flooding that can strain dams and reservoirs before the water reaches lowland cities.

[...]

Not a good long term prognosis.

5 freetoken  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 3:15:07pm

On Showtime, tomorrow:

Oliver Stone's Untold History of the United States

Will probably be more ceding to the "left" the "narrative", about which NRO whines.

6 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 3:22:55pm

Evening Lizardim.

7 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 3:27:43pm

re: #5 freetoken

On Showtime, tomorrow:

Oliver Stone's Untold History of the United States

Will probably be more ceding to the "left" the "narrative", about which NRO whines.

Stone is nutty enough as to provide National Review with enough fodder for days. He'll blurt out conspiracy theories and they'll bat them down. But its a mistake thinking Oliver Stone speaks "for the left", he really only speaks for himself. But as long as generalizations aren't inappropriately made, there's nothing wrong with having fun smacking down conspiracy theories.

As for Stone himself, he's complicated. Having served in Vietnam seems to have been the defining time of his life, and it left him (understandably) deeply suspicious of authority.

8 freetoken  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 3:32:56pm

The wages of sports is death:

The most psychotically profane rant you'll ever hear from a golf coach at a Christian college.

A lot of people ask us why we didn't play more team sports as a youth (not really), and this rant is our answer. We just don't want a coach to waste his breath and energy with a profanity-laden attack on our competence when our own inner voice is shouting stuff like this at us all day long. The clip starts with a nice buildup of even-tempered post-game analysis from this Huntingdon College golf coach, but if you get bored advance to the potty-mouthed explosion at 1:55. We are impressed by the Christian college coach's vast arsenal of profanity, but based on some of the stats he's bellowing we have to agree, these guys suck at golf.

Here's the vid, the rant starts at 1:55:

And sure enough:

HUNTINGDON GOLF COACH DISMISSED

Who knew that golf, GOLF, could cause such a brouhaha?

9 Killgore Trout  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 3:38:14pm

Finally got power wired into my new security system panel. It took two days of planning and thought because these old houses have wires running all over the place and it damn hard to figure out what's still connected and what it might be connected to. I should have all doors and windows secured in a few days.

10 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 3:39:07pm

re: #9 Killgore Trout

Finally got power wired into my new security system panel. It took two days of planning and thought because these old houses have wires running all over the place and it damn hard to figure out what's still connected and what it might be connected to. I should have all doors and windows secured in a few days.

Good for you. I hope that helps you sleep better at night.

12 freetoken  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 3:41:09pm

Remember all that whining by the oil-addicted "conservatives" lamenting how the libruls are keeping us from drilling for our own oil, but that just 90 miles off our shore commie Cuba was going to be a fount of the delicious lubricious fluid? Gingrich et. al., they all joined in this lament.

Well, it was all nonsense, of course, as over the decades petroleum engineers and geologists had concluded that the eastern Gulf was a possibly good play for natural gas but unlikely to be so for crude petroleum.

And sure enough, the results are coming in:

Cuba’s Prospects for an Oil-Fueled Economic Jolt Falter With Departure of Rig

Cuba’s hopes of reviving its economy with an oil boom have produced little more than three dry holes, persuading foreign oil companies to remove the one deepwater rig able to work in Cuban waters so it could be used for more lucrative prospects elsewhere.

[...]

13 Killgore Trout  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 3:43:57pm

re: #10 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too

Good for you. I hope that helps you sleep better at night.

It took me a few days to sleep normally again but I'm feeling better now. What I need mostly now is peace of mind when I leave the house for grocery shopping or errands. The break in was a needed wake up for me. I was lulled into complacency and wasn't even locking my doors. Portland is a really safe town but it was bound to happen sooner or later.

14 OhNoZombies!  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 3:49:51pm

LOL.
Don't give them any ideas....
It'll be ORCA II or something.

15 b_Snark  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 3:51:25pm

re: #14 OhNoZombies!

LOL.
Don't give them any ideas....
It'll be ORCA II or something.

As long as it isn't SPERM.

16 OhNoZombies!  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 3:51:59pm

re: #15 b_snark

As long as it isn't SPERM.

Dear god no!!!

17 Charles Johnson  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 3:52:46pm

A Petraeus scandal timeline at the new open source fact-checking site WeCheck.org:

[Link: wecheck.org...]

18 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 3:54:05pm

re: #14 OhNoZombies!

LOL.
Don't give them any ideas....
It'll be ORCA II or something.

ORCA was a badly executed disaster, that Mitt Romney of all people should have foreseen and avoided. That he knew better and still fucked up means that he deserved to lose the election. He forgot the lessons that made him rich and thus earned the EPIC FAIL.

19 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 3:54:21pm

re: #17 Charles Johnson

A Petraeus scandal timeline at the new open source fact-checking site WeCheck.org:

[Link: wecheck.org...]

You know this isn't going to prevent the wingnuts from continuing to pound the table.

20 jamesfirecat  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 3:54:52pm

re: #18 Dark_Falcon

ORCA was a badly executed disaster, that Mitt Romney of all people should have foreseen and avoided. That he knew better and still fucked up means that he deserved to lose the election. He forgot the lessons that made him rich and thus earned the EPIC FAIL.

You mean he had forgotten the importance of inheriting everything from you father?

21 erik_t  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 3:55:56pm

re: #17 Charles Johnson

A Petraeus scandal timeline at the new open source fact-checking site WeCheck.org:

[Link: wecheck.org...]

Sample size of one, this seems a lot more promising than the previous collection of 'factchecking' folk.

22 The Mountain That Blogs  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 3:59:01pm

re: #20 jamesfirecat

He most certainly has not.

23 aagcobb  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 4:03:12pm

re: #18 Dark_Falcon

ORCA was a badly executed disaster, that Mitt Romney of all people should have foreseen and avoided. That he knew better and still fucked up means that he deserved to lose the election. He forgot the lessons that made him rich and thus earned the EPIC FAIL.

I would love for Nate Silver to do an analysis as to how much better Romney would've done if those 30,000 volunteers had engaged in traditional GOTV activities rather than being left hanging by ORCA.

24 OhNoZombies!  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 4:06:34pm

It's interesting that Cantor didn't spill the beans right before the election.

25 Decatur Deb  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 4:08:08pm

Is it Waterloo yet?

26 erik_t  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 4:08:29pm

re: #24 OhNoZombies!

It's interesting that Cantor didn't spill the beans right before the election.

I think it would take an extraordinarily ballsy person to rock the boat so severely at that point, especially when it would have been such a personal call. If it were perceived to have backfired, it'd be on him and him personally. He'd be politically crucified.

27 Killgore Trout  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 4:09:40pm

re: #21 erik_t

Sample size of one, this seems a lot more promising than the previous collection of 'factchecking' folk.

Not so fast check out their front page or recent "fact checks"
[Link: wecheck.org...]

Does Planned Parenthood provide mammograms [?] FALSE
(Sources: FOX news, prolife groups)
Did Barack Obama vote to deny rights to infant abortion survivors [?] TRUE
(Sources: NRO, youtube, and a broken link to WaPo)
Will Obamacare raise taxes on Americans earning less than $250,000 [?] TRUE
(Sources: Washington Times, youtube)

...The site looks less reliable than Wikipedia.

28 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 4:10:38pm

re: #20 jamesfirecat

You mean he had forgotten the importance of inheriting everything from you father?

If you mean his business sense, then yes. Romney used to be a management consultant, and he parlayed that experience to get investors to give him the funds used to set up Bain Capital.

At this point, I'm reminded overwhelming of the US Mark XIII Air-Launched Torpedo, which hamstrung American torpedo bombers until late 1943. Like ORCA, it was badly flawed and the people in the Navy who should have called attention to the flaws covered them up to make themselves look good, with the result that a number of Japanese ships escaped destruction. As someone who had likely seen this sort of situation and known better, Mitt Romney is to be faulted doubly hard for ORCA's failure.

29 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 4:11:43pm

re: #23 aagcobb

I would love for Nate Silver to do an analysis as to how much better Romney would've done if those 30,000 volunteers had engaged in traditional GOTV activities rather than being left hanging by ORCA.

Drop him an email, he might do that. I myself don't think it would have swayed the election by itself, but I think it might have given Romney a win in Florida.

30 Stanghazi  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 4:13:17pm

re: #26 erik_t

I think it would take an extraordinarily ballsy person to rock the boat so severely at that point, especially when it would have been such a personal call. If it were perceived to have backfired, it'd be on him and him personally. He'd be politically crucified.

We could only wish.

31 Obdicut  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 4:13:41pm

re: #27 Killgore Trout

Yeah, it looks like the other factchecking sites. Politifact said the same thing about mammograms. Glad you're starting to see that just becomes someone says they're a factchecker, it doesn't actually imbue them with any special factchecking powers.

32 erik_t  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 4:15:08pm

re: #27 Killgore Trout

Not so fast check out their front page or recent "fact checks"
[Link: wecheck.org...]

...The site looks less reliable than Wikipedia.

Unfortunate but unsurprising. I don't know how one could construct such a system such that it were resistant to Paulbots or the equivalent.

Maybe you can't.

33 Obdicut  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 4:15:39pm

re: #21 erik_t

Sample size of one, this seems a lot more promising than the previous collection of 'factchecking' folk.

Nah. This is open-source, meaning it's just going to be trolled endlessly.

34 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 4:16:34pm

re: #30 Stanghazi

We could only wish.

And that he would have been right wouldn't have redeemed him. It just would have resulted in a subterranean burn of Butthurt.

35 Targetpractice  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 4:16:45pm

re: #26 erik_t

I think it would take an extraordinarily ballsy person to rock the boat so severely at that point, especially when it would have been such a personal call. If it were perceived to have backfired, it'd be on him and him personally. He'd be politically crucified.

Not to mention that it would take focus further off the economy, which the GOP expected to be the issue that would take them to the White House.

36 Vicious Babushka  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 4:19:50pm

THERE IS A LOT OF DISAPPOINTMENT IN LIFE, KID. GET USED TO IT.

37 Killgore Trout  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 4:20:32pm

re: #31 Obdicut

[Link: www.politifact.com...]

Our ruling

Obama said that "there are millions of women all across the country who rely on Planned Parenthood for not just contraceptive care; they rely on it for mammograms, for cervical cancer screenings."

The critics have a point that Planned Parenthood does not actually provide mammograms; instead, the organization refers patients who need them offsite. Supporters of Planned Parenthood also have a point that the organization serves as an important link between some female patients and the mammograms a doctor determines they need.

On several occasions, Obama has oversimplified and exaggerated what Planned Parenthood does, but he’s also not entirely wrong that the group makes it possible for many women to get mammograms they need. On balance, we rate the statement Half True.

They are correct about that.
WeCheck says....
[Link: wecheck.org...]

Conclusion

1. Planned Parenthood President said that the organization provides mammograms

2. Undercover calls to Planned Parenthood revealed that the organization does not provide mammograms

3. Planned Parenthood is not certified by HHS to provide mammograms

Result: FALSE

They are not correct. It doesn't look like a very reliable site for fact checking.

38 Killgore Trout  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 4:22:05pm

re: #32 erik_t

Unfortunate but unsurprising. I don't know how one could construct such a system such that it were resistant to Paulbots or the equivalent.

Maybe you can't.

Yeah, Wikipeida is an ok starting point for discussions but any open source site is going to be shitty on controversial or political topics.

39 ProGunLiberal  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 4:23:46pm

re: #38 Killgore Trout

Often because some activist is camps on the article. I've seen this a few times.

40 OhNoZombies!  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 4:24:02pm

re: #36 Vicious Babushka

THERE IS A LOT OF DISAPPOINTMENT IN LIFE, KID. GET USED TO IT.

[Embedded content]

When my kids act like that, the last thing I want to do is upload it to YouTube.
So not cute.

41 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 4:24:03pm

re: #38 Killgore Trout

Yeah, Wikipeida is an ok starting point for discussions but any open source site is going to be shitty on controversial or political topics.

Open source will forever be ruled by monomaniacs, because everyone else eventually gets tired of the DERP! and leaves.

42 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 4:25:31pm

re: #41 Dark_Falcon

Open source will forever be ruled by monomaniacs, because everyone else eventually gets tired of the DERP! and leaves.

This is also a reason why we at LGF should be thankful for Charles and for Stinky: They can and do act to get rid of the worst of the monomaniacs and thus help keep the blog fact-based.

43 freetoken  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 4:26:27pm

Why are we still arguing whether PP provides mammograms?

Did I miss a memo or something?

44 freetoken  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 4:35:27pm

With all the hand wringing on the right and by the permanent racists, over a supposed coming "amnesty" for illegal immigrants, we sometimes forget that many nations have similar problems (including xenophobia):

EU RULES CHANGE WILL BRING MORE MIGRANTS

MINISTERS are powerless to stop tens of thousands more Eastern European migrants heading to Britain in a new European Union borders shake-up next year, Theresa May admitted yesterday.

The Home Secretary warned the Government is legally unable to block Romanian and Bulgarian citizens from coming to the UK under an expansion of EU “freedom of movement”.

Instead, she vowed to curb access to benefits and NHS treatment for EU immigrants in an attempt at making Britain a less attractive destination for new arrivals.

Five-year-old quotas known as “transitional controls” are due to expire at the end of December 2013 as part of the enlargement of the EU’s single market.

It will give 29 million Bulgarians and Romanians the unrestricted right to live and work in the UK.

[...]

Hmmm... I doubt the battle cry of BULGARIANS!! or ROMANIANS!! would work here in the US.

45 goddamnedfrank  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 4:36:44pm

re: #37 Killgore Trout

[Link: www.politifact.com...]

They are correct about that.

Not really, they have an obnoxious, pedantic little point that could be equally applied to Medicare and Medicaid, or any species of private insurance. People rely on them to pay for their care, but they don't actually "provide" any kind of treatment. Planned Parenthood arranges the grants and other agreements that makes mammograms and other preventative care available to low income patients. They aren't just an important link, for such patients PP is crucial.

46 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 4:37:21pm

re: #42 Dark_Falcon

This is also a reason why we at LGF should be thankful for Charles and for Stinky: They can and do act to get rid of the worst of the monomaniacs and thus help keep the blog fact-based.

Stinky and his faithful banhammer have earned a place in the Internet Hall of Fame, methinks.

47 Obdicut  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 4:38:18pm

re: #37 Killgore Trout

They are not correct. It doesn't look like a very reliable site for fact checking.

They are correct. Planned Parenthood doesn't do mammograms, and they're not certified to do them. It's a narrow truth, similar to what you'll see at Politifact or Factcheck. obviously, this site is going to be even sloppier and it'll be less reliable, but the point I'm (hah!) trying to make to you is the same one I always make and you always waft away from-- that just because something is labeled 'factchecker' doesn't mean that it has any more credibility than any other source. Credibilty comes from the record you establish, and the factchecking sites have all had major, major fuckups which show their unreliability.

48 wrenchwench  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 4:41:21pm

Here Petraeus is trashed by the same guy who trashed Stanley McChrystal, Michael Hastings. Michael Hastings also had the same agent as Paula Broadwell.

'Media-military industrial complex' indeed.

49 Obdicut  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 4:43:12pm

Heh. I've just realized what the various factcheck sites remind me of. Another site that sometimes has very trenchant and useful information and sometimes is peddling absolute bullshit:

Cracked.com: 6 Historical Villains Who Were Actually OK Guys

50 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 4:44:51pm

re: #49 Obdicut

Heh. I've just realized what the various factcheck sites remind me of. Another site that sometimes has very trenchant and useful information and sometimes is peddling absolute bullshit:

Cracked.com: 6 Historical Villains Who Were Actually OK Guys

The Mrs. Fish and I enjoy picking apart Cracked articles. You're exactly right - sometimes they are perfectly on point, sometimes they run in the exact opposite direction.

51 William Barnett-Lewis  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 4:45:00pm

re: #43 freetoken

Why are we still arguing whether PP provides mammograms?

Did I miss a memo or something?

Nah, KT's still trying to prove that politifact, et al, aren't a bunch of partisan losers.

52 gwangung  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 4:46:41pm

re: #28 Dark_Falcon

If you mean his business sense, then yes. Romney used to be a management consultant, and he parlayed that experience to get investors to give him the funds used to set up Bain Capital.

At this point, I'm reminded overwhelming of the US Mark XIII Air-Launched Torpedo, which hamstrung American torpedo bombers until late 1943. Like ORCA, it was badly flawed and the people in the Navy who should have called attention to the flaws covered them up to make themselves look good, with the result that a number of Japanese ships escaped destruction. As someone who had likely seen this sort of situation and known better, Mitt Romney is to be faulted doubly hard for ORCA's failure.

I tend to look at it is that he was a consultant with expertise in financing. He had very little of the expertise in production and management that other CEOs had, particularly in high tech and manufacturing. That allowed him to think he had skills in managing thousands of people, but he really didn't. His background was more in the financial industry, which doesn't necessarily carry over even to other industries in the rivate sector, let alone government.

53 b_Snark  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 4:55:50pm

I rate this thread 4 crocoducks of truthiness.

54 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 4:56:36pm

re: #52 gwangung

I tend to look at it is that he was a consultant with expertise in financing. He had very little of the expertise in production and management that other CEOs had, particularly in high tech and manufacturing. That allowed him to think he had skills in managing thousands of people, but he really didn't. His background was more in the financial industry, which doesn't necessarily carry over even to other industries in the rivate sector, let alone government.

Even so, he should have known better.

55 erik_t  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 4:56:58pm

re: #53 b_snark (Fact-Checker Extrordinaire)

I rate this thread 4 crocoducks of truthiness.

Four crocoducks? Why, that's Antennae Awash territory!

56 andres  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 4:57:12pm

re: #18 Dark_Falcon

ORCA was a badly executed disaster, that Mitt Romney of all people should have foreseen and avoided. That he knew better and still fucked up means that he deserved to lose the election. He forgot the lessons that made him rich and thus earned the EPIC FAIL.

The ORCA disaster is merely what happens when a CEO doesn't get any pushback from his employees.

And this isn't just one isolated incident in the campaign. There were many bad decisions done during the whole campaign. You can discount some mistakes as some underling error, but with the amount they were churning mistakes, it had an industrial complex feeling.

57 b_Snark  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 4:58:18pm

re: #53 b_snark (Fact-Checker Extrordinaire)

I rate this thread 4 crocoducks of truthiness.

I rate this comment 'Mostly Useless'

58 b_Snark  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 4:59:02pm

re: #55 erik_t

Four crocoducks? Why, that's Antennae Awash territory!

Let me grab you a banana.

59 Four More Tears  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 5:01:37pm

Evening, Lizards. So what happened in Benghazi today?

60 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 5:02:08pm

Tonight debuts the episode of Mythbusters where they accidentally fired a cannonball through someone's house. WIN.

61 b_Snark  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 5:02:54pm

re: #60 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too

Tonight debuts the episode of Mythbusters where they accidentally fired a cannonball through someone's house. WIN.

They have all the fun.

62 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 5:03:36pm

re: #61 b_snark (Fact-Checker Extrordinaire)

They have all the fun.

They opened the show with a sincere apology for the incident occurring and that they were glad nobody got hurt. I've never seen the Mythbuster crew so serious.

63 blueraven  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 5:09:34pm

Photo of Jill Kelley/husband with Petraeus/wife

Image: kelley_247734a.JPG

64 Lidane  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 5:21:27pm

re: #18 Dark_Falcon

ORCA was a badly executed disaster, that Mitt Romney of all people should have foreseen and avoided. That he knew better and still fucked up means that he deserved to lose the election. He forgot the lessons that made him rich and thus earned the EPIC FAIL.

ORCA wasn't just a disaster. It was total amateur hour. They didn't even turn it on until Election Day. WTF.

So much for business acumen.

65 Lidane  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 5:23:01pm

re: #60 Douchecanoe and Ryan Too

Tonight debuts the episode of Mythbusters where they accidentally fired a cannonball through someone's house. WIN.

And next week, Mythbusters is going to have Alton Brown on the show.

So much nerdiness in one place. I may never recover.

66 engineer cat  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 5:23:02pm

re: #18 Dark_Falcon

He forgot the lessons that made him rich

i would really like to know what you think those might have been

67 Four More Tears  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 5:23:40pm

re: #18 Dark_Falcon

And The Turning begins...

68 Lidane  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 5:24:32pm

re: #66 engineer cat

i would really like to know what you think those might have been

Looting and pillaging for fun and profit?

69 gwangung  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 5:25:28pm

re: #54 Dark_Falcon

Even so, he should have known better.

Oh, yeah. It was bush league behavior that any manager should have known better about. Just plain sloppy and ncmpetent.

70 Four More Tears  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 5:28:22pm

And so it came to pass, as Jay had foretold, that the Right wouldst open their eyes and recall that they had not actually like Willard "Mitt" Romney in the first damn place.

71 makeitstop  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 5:28:57pm

re: #66 engineer cat

i would really like to know what you think those might have been

Being born into a wealthy family? How could he forget that?

72 Lidane  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 5:31:20pm

re: #70 Four More Tears

And so it came to pass, as Jay had foretold, that the Right wouldst open their eyes and recall that they had not actually like Willard "Mitt" Romney in the first damn place.

Seriously. They didn't even like him in 2008. What made anyone in the GOP sure that voters would like him now?

73 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Nov 11, 2012 5:37:57pm

re: #67 Four More Tears

And The Turning begins...

Just wait for the Prestige.


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cycroft
Russ Campbell’s Blog: Bill C-23, Fair Elections Act Seems Now on Solid Ground
Now that a Sen­ate com­mit­tee has rec­om­mended nine changes to Bill C-23, Fair Elec­tions Act, the leg­is­la­tion seems pretty solid. And, since Pierre Poilievre has, ap­par­ently, in­di­cated pri­vately that he's open to changes, an amended ver­sion of the bill will likely be­come law by this sum­mer. We would prob­a­bly have got­ten to this point ear­lier had not the min­is­ter re­spon­si­ble for the bill ...

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MichaelJ
Live now - 2014 Rip Curl Pro Bells Beach - ASP World Tour
More: 2014 Rip Curl Pro Bells Beach - ASP Iconic Bells Beach in Victoria, Australia once again hosts the world's best surfers for the 41st running of the Bells Beach Contest. New feature in this broadcast: drone cam!

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Why the Temperature of the Yellow Sea Is a Big Deal, and Other Questions About the South Korean Ferry Disaster
The boat ran into trouble several dozen miles from Jindo, an island that sticks out of South Korea's southwestern corner like a little toe. Jindo is surrounded by a group of even smaller islands that are slightly farther afield from the mainland. The ferry was curving around those small islands at the time it issued a distress call. What caused the disaster? We ...

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Idle Drifter
Calgary stabbings: How knife crime in Canada can cause ‘moral panic’
What Calgary police chief Rick Hanson called the "worst mass murder" in the city's history didn't end at the barrel of a gun. Instead, the 22-year-old suspect identified on Tuesday as Matthew de Grood is accused of entering the kitchen at a house party, taking "a large knife" and using it to fatally stab four men and one woman, all of whom were students ...

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aagcobb
New York Electoral College: State Joins National Popular Vote Interstate Compact.
Ben Mathis-Lilley, Slate: New York Electoral College: State Joins National Popular Vote Interstate Compact. Instead of pushing for a Constitutional amendment, which would have to be ratified in 38 states, advocates ask individual state legislatures to pass an agreement: that they'll pledge all their presidential electors to the winner of the national popular vote as soon as enough other states pass the law to ...

3 days, 23 hours ago
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Political Atheist
The Insane History of Rockets at Jet Propulsion Laboratories
The Rocket Boys In the late 1930s, a group of Caltech graduate students were booted off campus after blowing up (part of!) their building during a rocket test gone awry. Unwilling to give up on the joy of semi-controlled explosions, the students and a few of their friends headed into the San Gabriel Mountains. They picked a deserted gully -- Arroyo Seco -- ...

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iossarian
Drug Companies Want Your Money
Two thematically-related stories on the BBC at the moment: UK drug company Glaxo 'paid bribes to Polish doctors' UK drug company GlaxoSmithKline is facing a criminal investigation in Poland for allegedly bribing doctors, BBC Panorama has discovered. Tamiflu: Millions wasted on flu drug, claims major report Hundreds of millions of pounds may have been wasted on a drug for flu that works no better ...

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 Frank says:

It would be easier to pay off the national debt overnight than to neutralize the long-range effects of OUR NATIONAL STUPIDITY.