1 freetoken  Thu, Dec 20, 2012 5:31:19pm

Testimony from an expert on irrelevancy - we've reached the moebius strip of derp.

2 Kragar  Thu, Dec 20, 2012 5:31:38pm

Authentic Frontier Gibberish.

3 GeneJockey  Thu, Dec 20, 2012 5:32:12pm
Just think, she could have been Vice President

Worse - Cranky McAngry might have blown a fuse and she would have been...

Would have been...

No, I can't say it!

4 Achilles Tang  Thu, Dec 20, 2012 5:32:41pm

Maybe she has a plan C?

5 Skip Intro  Thu, Dec 20, 2012 5:32:45pm

So how much longer does she have her Fox contract?

6 The Ghost of a Flea  Thu, Dec 20, 2012 5:33:07pm

On the other hand, it's pretty impressive that they got an albatross to say human words. Or maybe she's more of a millstone.

7 Randall Gross  Thu, Dec 20, 2012 5:35:38pm
Well a Babylon girl ain't got no past
The Babylon girl got's to talk so fast
The Babylon men gonna be a boy
With the Babylon girl out looking for a joy
(In) Babylon

... she's just got to babble on.

8 HappyWarrior  Thu, Dec 20, 2012 5:37:49pm

I am glad she wasn't around back when Hitler was alive because Hitler being man of the year would go totally over her shallow brain. Even if you don't like Obama, Time made a decent argument for him being Man of the Year. So glad that we only have to deal with this woman's stupidity on cable news rather than being a heartbeat from the WH. We dodged a bullet in 2008 people. A big one.

9 Stanghazi  Thu, Dec 20, 2012 5:38:44pm

I will return to Sister Sarah the idiot in a sec, but this, THIS from the token RWNJ I follow. Most times I'm puking at her tweets/retweets, about to hit the unfollow button. But ah, sweet rewards.

10 EPR-radar  Thu, Dec 20, 2012 5:42:00pm

Semi-literate Constitution-thumper says what?

Here's the first of about 100,000,000 clues that you desperately need, Sarah Palin. "Unconstitutional" is not a synonym for "I disagree with it".

11 Varek Raith  Thu, Dec 20, 2012 5:44:26pm

This was the location of my universal translator.
Image: Sedan_Plowshare_Crater.jpg
Thanks, Sarah.

12 Gus  Thu, Dec 20, 2012 5:44:42pm

Why I tell ya'. Time Magazine is so irrelevant they even picked me one year as being an influential person in politics. How did that work our for me aye?

13 lawhawk  Thu, Dec 20, 2012 5:45:01pm

Well, isn't that something. After Boehner said he was going to put Plan B to a vote, he had to have a change of plans. Guess his caucus didn't exactly warm up to the plan after all. Not enough support in fact.

14 Joanne  Thu, Dec 20, 2012 5:45:13pm

Sarah was waiting for pathetic Greta (a Palin ass licker) to prop her up with a, "Are you kidding? You're the best thing to happen to the USA since Reagan!"

15 Stanghazi  Thu, Dec 20, 2012 5:45:13pm

re: #5 Skip Intro

So how much longer does she have her Fox contract?

I think it's up at end of year. She hasn't been around in a long time. They cut her off before the election. Why now?

16 Gus  Thu, Dec 20, 2012 5:45:25pm

I think Sarah Palin just self-derpricated herself. //

17 HappyWarrior  Thu, Dec 20, 2012 5:47:24pm

re: #13 lawhawk

Well, isn't that something. After Boehner said he was going to put Plan B to a vote, he had to have a change of plans. Guess his caucus didn't exactly warm up to the plan after all. Not enough support in fact.

Is their problem with it that it's not hardcore enough?

18 Charles Johnson  Thu, Dec 20, 2012 5:47:54pm

Boehner screwed the pooch.

19 lawhawk  Thu, Dec 20, 2012 5:48:43pm

re: #18 Charles Johnson

But he's still blaming Obama and Democrats for the failure to get something done.

20 wrenchwench  Thu, Dec 20, 2012 5:49:56pm

Later, lizards.

[Link: i.chzbgr.com...]

22 HappyWarrior  Thu, Dec 20, 2012 5:51:49pm

re: #21 Varek Raith

Way to fail.
Boehner's Plan B fiscal cliff bill pulled amid dissension in GOP caucus

How long until we get Speaker Cantor? Boehner obviously can't control his caucus.

23 freetoken  Thu, Dec 20, 2012 5:52:21pm

On a different but not wholly unrelated topic, and getting back to one of my subjects from earlier in the year, this month Newsweek, in its fading glory, published a cover article by Bart Ehrman on why the infancy birth narratives of Jesus in the Gospels are not history and not to be taken as true.

As expected, it raised the ire of fundamentalists and evangelicals, who have put out numerous writings and videos denouncing Ehrman yet again. The objectors cite a long list of supposed proofs - all of which have been thoroughly dismissed over many years by many scholars and researchers.

Anyway, point being, is that our society is composed of, in no small part, of a large group of people who are not willing to open engage in discussing the foundations of their worldviews - how they make sense of the world around them.

And the concept of "evidence" is twisted until non-existence is proof of some thing being true.

So, it doesn't surprise me that this same society of ours has broken down in the public, political dialogue, between those who embrace the modern view of evidence, data, and knowledge, and those who cling to beliefs created explicitly to comfort them but full of pitfalls that accompany hiding one's head.

24 Targetpractice  Thu, Dec 20, 2012 5:53:22pm

re: #18 Charles Johnson

Boehner screwed the pooch.

Boehner just ended his Speakership. The final vote's not til Jan 3rd, but after tonight, I don't think anybody realistically thinks he's a lock to keep his job. Seriously, if he couldn't get a vote on this bill, even with the blessing of Norquist, how does he expect to get anything Obama would agree to passed?

25 Gus  Thu, Dec 20, 2012 5:55:02pm

re: #18 Charles Johnson

Boehner screwed the pooch.

Boehner's a goner.

26 William Barnett-Lewis  Thu, Dec 20, 2012 5:58:30pm

Cantor's got a Boner...

27 Varek Raith  Thu, Dec 20, 2012 5:59:38pm

Dear, GOP,
We.
Are.
Tired.
Of.
This.
SHIT!

28 Targetpractice  Thu, Dec 20, 2012 6:00:32pm

The biggest egg on Boehner's face? Here's what he was saying 7 hours ago:

Boehner: Obama Can’t Stand Up To His Own Party

House Speaker John Boehner (R-OH) said on Thursday that the reason so-called fiscal cliff negotiations have stalled is that President Obama is having some trouble standing up to his own party on entitlement cuts.

"I'm convinced the president is unwilling to stand up to his own party," Boehner said at a press conference on Capitol Hill.

29 Iwouldprefernotto  Thu, Dec 20, 2012 6:00:58pm

re: #25 Gus

Boehner's a goner.

They need a real conservative......

30 Varek Raith  Thu, Dec 20, 2012 6:01:11pm

re: #28 Targetpractice

The biggest egg on Boehner's face? Here's what he was saying 7 hours ago:

Boehner: Obama Can’t Stand Up To His Own Party

My irony meter just initiated cold fusion.
WTF.

31 jamesfirecat  Thu, Dec 20, 2012 6:01:36pm

So will the newspaper headlines discussing this event refer to it as Boehner's Boner? Don't worry pic is SFW.

32 HappyWarrior  Thu, Dec 20, 2012 6:01:38pm

re: #27 Varek Raith

Dear, GOP,
We.
Are.
Tired.
Of.
This.
SHIT!

They seem to think the American people actually like this crap. Would love for the American people in the midterms to return them to their minority party status in the House but given how incumbency is, I wouldn't bet on it even if it looks like it will be a Democratic year. We really fucked up giving them the House in 2010.

33 HappyWarrior  Thu, Dec 20, 2012 6:02:37pm

re: #28 Targetpractice

The biggest egg on Boehner's face? Here's what he was saying 7 hours ago:

Boehner: Obama Can’t Stand Up To His Own Party

Yeah, I saw that here. I thought it was pretty funny coming from someone who lives in cowering fear of his own caucus. And it turned out to be true too.

34 EPR-radar  Thu, Dec 20, 2012 6:03:50pm

re: #32 HappyWarrior

They seem to think the American people actually like this crap. Would love for the American people in the midterms to return them to their minority party status in the House but given how incumbency is, I wouldn't bet on it even if it looks like it will be a Democratic year. We really fucked up giving them the House in 2010.

The real pain in 2010 was at the state level, where the GOP made serious gains in state houses. 2010 being a census year, they were able to lock in much of the gains via redistricting.

35 freetoken  Thu, Dec 20, 2012 6:04:32pm

re: #32 HappyWarrior

They seem to think the American people actually like this crap.

Not really their concern. To many of those Republican congressmen, their constituency are behind them solidly. Note that the reelection of Obama brought only small changes to the House, partly through redistricting, but also because the hardest hard core of the tea partying right show up to vote, while the young trendy types that love Obama will skip voting in mid terms.

I don't look forward to the 2014 elections.

36 Political Atheist  Thu, Dec 20, 2012 6:04:44pm

Oh boy. Just got a call from my Dad who keeps falling for the Faux News crap. He's all full of whatever they are saying today. I snapped and cussed him out for trying to lecture me again with a pack of lies.

Almost instantly I reminded myself of who I was talking to, apologized profusely. Three times. On the up side we made arrangements for Christmas dinner with a promise of no politics.

A few times I have printed out charts and graphs and Pages to show him how empty of real content his favorite news source is. Then he watches the news again for a week or so and it's on again.

Well this time dinner at a steak joint will be on me.

But I still feel like a heel. Coming from Dad it just kills me.

37 HappyWarrior  Thu, Dec 20, 2012 6:05:14pm

re: #34 EPR-radar

The real pain in 2010 was at the state level, where the GOP made serious gains in state houses. 2010 being a census year, they were able to lock in much of the gains via redistricting.

Yep. Really if I have a beef with the Democratic base, it's that they don't turn out as much in non presidential election years. The off year elections and midterms are just as important for the country.

38 Joanne  Thu, Dec 20, 2012 6:05:14pm

re: #32 HappyWarrior

They seem to think the American people actually like this crap. Would love for the American people in the midterms to return them to their minority party status in the House but given how incumbency is, I wouldn't bet on it even if it looks like it will be a Democratic year. We really fucked up giving them the House in 2010.

Boy, you can sure say that again. And gerrymandering will screw us for a decade or more.

39 Stanghazi  Thu, Dec 20, 2012 6:05:59pm

AND....again, Sister Sarah is pushed out of the "news"

PHEW

40 Kragar  Thu, Dec 20, 2012 6:06:48pm

re: #29 Iwouldprefernotto

They need a real conservative......

Obviously. Real conservatives always win.

41 Skip Intro  Thu, Dec 20, 2012 6:07:03pm

re: #29 Iwouldprefernotto

They need a real conservative......

How about Louie Gohmert ? He's crazy enough for the baggers, and as a bonus his last name almost sounds the same as Boehner.

42 Gus  Thu, Dec 20, 2012 6:07:23pm

Fail.

43 HappyWarrior  Thu, Dec 20, 2012 6:08:23pm

re: #42 Gus

[Embedded content]

Fail.

They really need to find someone good to challenge him in 2014 for his district. That guy needs to be running scared for his political life.

44 EPR-radar  Thu, Dec 20, 2012 6:08:26pm

re: #42 Gus

[Embedded content]

Fail.

"When needed"? OK. They can adjourn until the midterm election results of 2014 are in.

45 Targetpractice  Thu, Dec 20, 2012 6:10:00pm

re: #42 Gus

[Embedded content]

Fail.

Boehner needs some time to lick his wounds.

46 jamesfirecat  Thu, Dec 20, 2012 6:10:40pm

re: #37 HappyWarrior

Yep. Really if I have a beef with the Democratic base, it's that they don't turn out as much in non presidential election years. The off year elections and midterms are just as important for the country.

I'm Incumbency Bob and have you heard the news?
The way the system works there ain't no way I can lose....

47 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Dec 20, 2012 6:11:07pm

re: #11 Varek Raith

This was the location of my universal translator.
Image: Sedan_Plowshare_Crater.jpg
Thanks, Sarah.

That, or there's a very big ant lion down there. Probably eats trucks and idiots looking for hidden flying saucers.
;)

48 Stanghazi  Thu, Dec 20, 2012 6:11:40pm
49 HappyWarrior  Thu, Dec 20, 2012 6:12:20pm

I wonder if Boehner's getting tired of the nuts within his own caucus.

50 Stanghazi  Thu, Dec 20, 2012 6:12:25pm
51 Stanghazi  Thu, Dec 20, 2012 6:13:22pm

Ha ha, yelling.

52 Stanghazi  Thu, Dec 20, 2012 6:13:52pm

re: #43 HappyWarrior

They really need to find someone good to challenge him in 2014 for his district. That guy needs to be running scared for his political life.

Remember stray bullet Cantor?

53 freetoken  Thu, Dec 20, 2012 6:14:15pm

re: #48 Stanghazi

"Quite literally"?

Which is the "literal":

"left"
"Capitol building"
"Boehner"

??

54 lawhawk  Thu, Dec 20, 2012 6:14:37pm

The guy who was in a Marine uniform outside a school turned out to have exaggerated his rank and service. Outstanding.

55 HappyWarrior  Thu, Dec 20, 2012 6:14:37pm

re: #52 Stanghazi

Remember stray bullet Cantor?

No, sorry. Refresh my memory. I know he resides in one of the most safest districts in the state of Virginia.

56 Varek Raith  Thu, Dec 20, 2012 6:14:54pm

re: #52 Stanghazi

Remember stray bullet Cantor?

Or the Va quake that was centered in his district as he was calling for no disaster relief without offsets nonsense?

57 [deleted]  Thu, Dec 20, 2012 6:15:28pm
58 Varek Raith  Thu, Dec 20, 2012 6:16:11pm

re: #55 HappyWarrior

No, sorry. Refresh my memory. I know he resides in one of the most safest districts in the state of Virginia.

[Link: voices.washingtonpost.com...]

59 HappyWarrior  Thu, Dec 20, 2012 6:16:20pm

re: #57 Iwouldprefernotto

Am I a bad person?

Every time I see a picture of Eric Cantor smiling I just want to smack him across the face.

He annoys me because he's such a partisan hack and he's the most powerful member of Congress from my state.

60 Kragar  Thu, Dec 20, 2012 6:16:31pm

re: #54 lawhawk

[Embedded content]

The guy who was in a Marine uniform outside a school turned out to have exaggerated his rank and service. Outstanding.

Twit.

61 freetoken  Thu, Dec 20, 2012 6:16:54pm

More on the "massacre of the innocents" being brought up in response to the Newtown massacre:

Is Matthew's "Death of Innocents" Episode Wholesale Invention?

The dark side of religion?

62 bratwurst  Thu, Dec 20, 2012 6:17:24pm
63 HappyWarrior  Thu, Dec 20, 2012 6:17:27pm

re: #58 Varek Raith

[Link: voices.washingtonpost.com...]

Oh yeah, I do. He's such an asshole. I dislike him more than I do Boehner. Boehner seems to at least want a solution. Cantor cares only about obstructing Obama and doing the Tea PArty's bidding.

64 EPR-radar  Thu, Dec 20, 2012 6:17:30pm

re: #57 Iwouldprefernotto

Am I a bad person?

Every time I see a picture of Eric Cantor smiling I just want to smack him across the face.

Nope. Since he looks like he'd dump anyone down an elevator shaft if there was $0.02 in it for him (and votes accordingly), self defense would apply.

65 Gus  Thu, Dec 20, 2012 6:18:08pm
66 Kragar  Thu, Dec 20, 2012 6:19:05pm

re: #56 Varek Raith

Or the Va quake that was centered in his district as he was calling for no disaster relief without offsets nonsense?

WE WILL REBUILD!!!

67 Targetpractice  Thu, Dec 20, 2012 6:19:13pm

re: #65 Gus

[Embedded content]

Oh yeah, tomorrow's gonna be interesting on Wall Street. Look out below!

68 Charles Johnson  Thu, Dec 20, 2012 6:19:18pm
69 Targetpractice  Thu, Dec 20, 2012 6:20:14pm

re: #68 Charles Johnson

[Embedded content]

Winning!

71 Vicious Michigan Union Thug  Thu, Dec 20, 2012 6:23:34pm

re: #61 freetoken

More on the "massacre of the innocents" being brought up in response to the Newtown massacre:

Is Matthew's "Death of Innocents" Episode Wholesale Invention?

The dark side of religion?

According to Josephus, Herod did seek out and destroy any descendants of the Hashmonean priestly dynasty who would have been rivals to his throne. So that would have been historically correct. However Herod would not have been interested in the peasant class unless he thought they were fomenting a rebellion. Matthew co-opted Herod's destruction of the priestly caste who were his rivals, with a generic massacre that fit his own narrative.

72 Iwouldprefernotto  Thu, Dec 20, 2012 6:23:50pm

Did I delete my comment #57?

Was it deleted by Aliens?

Did Eric Cantor get to you?

73 dragonath  Thu, Dec 20, 2012 6:24:00pm

Wow, the Republican caucus has no discipline. They literally just fell over themselves trying to stick it to Obama.

74 freetoken  Thu, Dec 20, 2012 6:27:44pm

re: #71 Vicious Michigan Union Thug

One perspective on the origins of the Gospels, I think serious enough to hold up, is that the "Gospel of Matthew" (which no where claims to be written by a "Matthew") was cobbled together (at the end of the 1st century) from the earlier "Mark" or "Q" with the express intention of writing in more Jewish references, including writing Herod into the story to make it more "Jewish".

75 Targetpractice  Thu, Dec 20, 2012 6:28:11pm

Apparently Mark Levin was the guy Boehner chose to do his arm-twisting, and he was threatening committee chairmanships and assignments of anybody who wouldn't change their vote to support "Plan B."

76 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Thu, Dec 20, 2012 6:28:23pm

I'm not listening to Sarah. I don't have to and I'm not going to.

77 Gus  Thu, Dec 20, 2012 6:28:28pm
78 Targetpractice  Thu, Dec 20, 2012 6:29:46pm

re: #77 Gus

[Embedded content]

To listen to the Freepers, that seems to be the case. They're thrilled they got the cuts through, but think Boehner should have gone whole-hog and put up a bill to make all the tax cuts permanent and dared Obama not to sign it.

79 Varek Raith  Thu, Dec 20, 2012 6:30:05pm

re: #66 Kragar

WE WILL REBUILD!!!

Yeah, yeah.
You west coasters dissing us for the earthquake.
That's why I'll send a Cat 2 your way!
No need to thank me.
/:P

80 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Thu, Dec 20, 2012 6:30:58pm

New Zealand is still there. Hasn't been poofed away.

It's Blustery and Wet in my part of the world tho.

I'm not sure we are safe yet . . .

81 Varek Raith  Thu, Dec 20, 2012 6:31:35pm

re: #72 Iwouldprefernotto

Posts like that are a no-no.
Go to your room.

82 lawhawk  Thu, Dec 20, 2012 6:32:25pm

After GOPers in Congress were saying that they weren't going to fund the President's $60b Sandy recovery plan, and came up with a plan that provided just $20b, Gov. Christie just came out and said that he's calling on Congress to pass the full $60b plan because recovery wont come without it.

Oh, and he probably pissed off the gun lobby today because he's open to some form of gun control.

83 Varek Raith  Thu, Dec 20, 2012 6:32:30pm

re: #80 Holidays are Family Fun Time

New Zealand is still there. Hasn't been poofed away.

It's Blustery and Wet in my part of the world tho.

I'm not sure we are safe yet . . .

No, I set the timer for the EoW device to prime time EST.

84 freetoken  Thu, Dec 20, 2012 6:33:11pm

re: #82 lawhawk

Well, he won't be the 2016 nominee.

85 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Thu, Dec 20, 2012 6:33:25pm

re: #83 Varek Raith

No, I set the timer for the EoW device to prime time EST.

Did you syncronize it with the Atomic Clock?

86 Varek Raith  Thu, Dec 20, 2012 6:33:38pm

re: #85 Holidays are Family Fun Time

Did you syncronize it with the Atomac Clock?

Yep.

87 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Thu, Dec 20, 2012 6:33:52pm

re: #82 lawhawk

throwing bones . . .

88 goddamnedfrank  Thu, Dec 20, 2012 6:33:54pm

re: #84 freetoken

Well, he won't be the 2016 nominee.

He won't even be the 2016 nominee's ball washer.

89 lawhawk  Thu, Dec 20, 2012 6:34:04pm

re: #80 Holidays are Family Fun Time

Give it some time. It's not quite 12/21 in Mayan standard time. /

90 Gus  Thu, Dec 20, 2012 6:35:45pm
91 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Thu, Dec 20, 2012 6:36:07pm

I have no presents wrapped or under the tree.

I think I'm going with gift cards purchased at the local drug store this year.

92 Varek Raith  Thu, Dec 20, 2012 6:36:30pm

re: #90 Gus

[Embedded content]

Slackers.

93 Gus  Thu, Dec 20, 2012 6:36:57pm

re: #90 Gus

[Embedded content]

That was the 14th. Earlier this evening...

Eric Cantor's walk of shame after humiliating Plan B failure

Youtube Video
94 Gus  Thu, Dec 20, 2012 6:38:51pm

DOW futures now at -209.00

Continues a slow drop.

[Link: www.bloomberg.com...]

95 stabby  Thu, Dec 20, 2012 6:40:22pm

re: #88 goddamnedfrank

He won't even be the 2016 nominee's ball washer.

I can fantasize that he calls on the sane Republicans and "independents" (or just all Republicans) to storm the primaries and take them back from the Bircher/Tea-KKK/Fox-Coulter-Beck-Limbaugh-lobotomy zombies.

96 goddamnedfrank  Thu, Dec 20, 2012 6:41:22pm

How about a tax write off covering the purchase of a gun safe?

97 stabby  Thu, Dec 20, 2012 6:42:38pm

Any Republican bill named after an abortion pill was doomed to fail.

98 Holidays are Family Fun Time  Thu, Dec 20, 2012 6:43:06pm

free paper at Staples with coupon and reward membership:

99 Joanne  Thu, Dec 20, 2012 6:48:47pm

re: #65 Gus

There's your 2012pocolypse! 300 points

100 b_sharp  Thu, Dec 20, 2012 6:59:29pm

re: #99 Joanne

There's your 2012pocolypse! 300 points

What are we doing with an economic system based on emotion?

101 Dark_Falcon  Thu, Dec 20, 2012 7:04:24pm

re: #8 HappyWarrior

I am glad she wasn't around back when Hitler was alive because Hitler being man of the year would go totally over her shallow brain. Even if you don't like Obama, Time made a decent argument for him being Man of the Year. So glad that we only have to deal with this woman's stupidity on cable news rather than being a heartbeat from the WH. We dodged a bullet in 2008 people. A big one.

Time had a decent argument, but I still think the title should have gone to Mohammad Morsi. The problem is not enough Americans know who he is and what he's done.

102 Stanghazi  Thu, Dec 20, 2012 7:11:04pm

Reality check. I'm sharing here because I'm totally helpless at the moment.

My old roommate, who saved me when I needed a place STAT, in an accident last night while visiting family in Portland area. Brain surgery. Her family up there are not connected to us here who are totally freaking out.

103 Ming  Fri, Dec 21, 2012 8:24:27am

I was a registered Republican for 25 years, until 2009, and I hope they heal themselves, soon. But at some point, Republicans must confront the fact, unfortunate fact as it is, that they nominated Sarah Palin for Vice President of the United States. It won't be pretty. We all make big mistakes. (I made a very major mistake in my own life a few weeks ago, and I feel terrible about it.) But as unpleasant as it will be, Republicans simply must deal with this. Palin's mental illness has been all over TV, all over the world, for a long time now. Too long! Republicans cannot heal their party without CONFRONTING their great mistake of 2008.


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