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1 Charles Johnson  Sun, Jan 6, 2013 5:39:42pm

The cover for the recorded version of this song cycle is amazing, too.

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2 Charles Johnson  Sun, Jan 6, 2013 5:43:03pm

I started watching this video earlier today and couldn’t stop, ended up watching all the way through. What an amazing show this was.

3 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Jan 6, 2013 5:44:00pm

re: #2 Charles Johnson

I started watching this video earlier today and couldn’t stop, ended up watching all the way through. What an amazing show this was.

You’ve got an ear for it, Charles.

4 Charles Johnson  Sun, Jan 6, 2013 5:49:53pm

One of my favorite things about Secret Story is that Pat doesn’t play that guitar synth with the cheesy fake trumpet sound. I’ve never understood what he likes about that annoying instrument.

5 Killgore Trout  Sun, Jan 6, 2013 6:04:47pm

An interesting article on the new Iran Sanctions

New Iran sanctions target industry in bid for deal curbing nuclear program

New U.S. sanctions have broadened the front in the West’s escalating economic conflict with Iran, targeting large swaths of the country’s industrial infrastructure even as Iranian leaders are indicating a willingness to resume negotiations on the country’s nuclear program. (lol-ed)

While some previous U.S. sanctions targeted individuals and firms linked to Iran’s nuclear industry, the new policies are closer to a true trade embargo, designed to systematically attack and undercut Iran’s major financial pillars and threaten the country with economic collapse, the officials say.

“This is effectively blacklisting whole sectors of the Iranian economy,” said Mark Dubowitz, executive director of the Foundation for the Defense of Democracy, a think tank. “The goal is to create a chilling effect on all nonhumanitarian commercial trade with Iran.”

By broadening the focus to entire industries, the new effort is intended to make it harder for Iran to evade sanctions through front operations, a time-honored practice in the Islamic republic, said Dubowitz, author of several studies on sanctions policy. “It was a game of whack-a-mole that the United States could never win,” he said.

Since “Think tanks” are interesting to me these days: Foundation for Defense of Democracies
OMG! Neocons!

6 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Jan 6, 2013 6:11:21pm

re: #5 Killgore Trout

An interesting article on the new Iran Sanctions

New Iran sanctions target industry in bid for deal curbing nuclear program

Since “Think tanks” are interesting to me these days: Foundation for Defense of Democracies
OMG! Neocons!

No “trolling”! Bad Killgore!

/Kidding. Good work.

7 Gus  Sun, Jan 6, 2013 6:14:03pm

re: #5 Killgore Trout

An interesting article on the new Iran Sanctions

New Iran sanctions target industry in bid for deal curbing nuclear program

Since “Think tanks” are interesting to me these days: Foundation for Defense of Democracies
OMG! Neocons!

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8 b_sharp  Sun, Jan 6, 2013 6:21:13pm

re: #7 Gus

Image: cliff-may-pamela.jpg

Eww. Did you have to? Without adding a clown nose and shoes first?

9 Killgore Trout  Sun, Jan 6, 2013 6:26:06pm

re: #6 Dark_Falcon

No “trolling”! Bad Killgore!

/Kidding. Good work.

Although I can’t find any evidence I suspect Def o’ Democracies probably wrote the legislation. You’d think that’s the kind of thing they’d put in the article.

10 Gus  Sun, Jan 6, 2013 6:28:35pm

re: #9 Killgore Trout

Although I can’t find any evidence I suspect Def o’ Democracies probably wrote the legislation. You’d think that’s the kind of thing they’d put in the article.

Must have been some Republican.

[Scratches head.]

11 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Jan 6, 2013 6:32:58pm
12 Lidane  Sun, Jan 6, 2013 6:34:21pm

SourceWatch: Cliff May

He’s a PNAC nutjob. Zero credibility.

13 prairiefire  Sun, Jan 6, 2013 6:35:57pm

re: #9 Killgore Trout

It’s been reported on NPR that the most recent sanctions over the last 18 months have been quite difficult for the Iranians.
The less control the government has over its own money, the more the Iranian people are straining against the government.

14 Stanghazi  Sun, Jan 6, 2013 6:36:24pm

re: #12 Lidane

SourceWatch: Cliff May

He’s a PNAC nutjob. Zero credibility.

Again, research to admire.

15 Killgore Trout  Sun, Jan 6, 2013 6:40:54pm

re: #12 Lidane

SourceWatch: Cliff May

He’s a PNAC nutjob. Zero credibility.

Yet Obama just signed into law the legislation that he loves (and was possibly authored by his group). Hmmm…

16 Killgore Trout  Sun, Jan 6, 2013 6:42:44pm

re: #15 Killgore Trout

Yet Obama just signed into law the legislation that he loves (and was possibly authored by his group). Hmmm…

…and could throw the Iranian economy over the edge.

17 Lidane  Sun, Jan 6, 2013 6:44:39pm

re: #15 Killgore Trout

Kinda throws a wrench into the works for the lunatics who think Obama’s a socialist, eh?

18 Dark_Falcon  Sun, Jan 6, 2013 6:46:15pm

re: #17 Lidane

Kinda throws a wrench into the works for the lunatics who think Obama’s a socialist, eh?

But that’s less likely to bother May, since he’d rather get the bill signed than hate on Obama.

19 Killgore Trout  Sun, Jan 6, 2013 6:48:27pm

re: #17 Lidane

Kinda throws a wrench into the works for the lunatics who think Obama’s a socialist, eh?

Could it be there’s some bipartisan support for toppling the mullahs? This insanity must be stopped!
/

20 Gus  Sun, Jan 6, 2013 7:02:03pm

Don’t understand what KT’s point is here but the tougher Iran sanctions was authored by Sen Robert Menendez, Robert (D-NJ). I believe he cooperated with Schumer, Kirk, and Liberman.

S.AMDT.3232
Amends: S.3254
Sponsor: Sen Menendez, Robert [NJ] (submitted 11/29/2012) (proposed 11/29/2012)

AMENDMENT PURPOSE:
To enhance sanctions imposed with respect to Iran.

TEXT OF AMENDMENT AS SUBMITTED: CR S7243-7246

This was an amendment to S.3254, the National Defense Authorization Act.

This included the new NDAA provisions. Obama signed “with reservations” again. Menendez has a relationship with FDD. It appears that his co-author was Mark Kirk. Some outlets report that he signed but was opposed to the tougher sanctions (citation needed). I was able to locate the following:

Statement by the Press Secretary on the Presidential Determination Pursuant to Section 1245(d)(4)(B) and (C) of the National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2012

Today the President made the determination required under Section 1245(d)(4)(B) and (C) of the National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal Year 2012 regarding the supply of petroleum and petroleum products from countries other than Iran.

The analysis contained in the Energy Information Administration’s report of October 25, 2012, indicates that although production disruptions continue to remove some oil from the market and the international response to concerns about Iran’s nuclear activities may have increased demand for non-Iranian crude oil, production increases in other countries and weaker demand growth overall have mitigated oil market tightness to a degree.

There currently appears to be sufficient supply of non-Iranian oil to permit foreign countries to significantly reduce their import of Iranian oil, taking into account current estimates of demand, increased production by countries other than Iran, inventories of crude oil and petroleum products, and available strategic petroleum reserves. In this context, it is notable that many purchasers of Iranian crude oil have reduced their purchases or announced they are in productive discussions with alternative suppliers.

Foreign Policy reported: White House opposed new Iran sanctions

21 SpaceJesus  Sun, Jan 6, 2013 7:39:17pm

talon still around? i had to run to dinner earlier

22 Gus  Sun, Jan 6, 2013 7:40:48pm

re: #21 SpaceJesus

talon still around? i had to run to dinner earlier

Upstairs.


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 Frank says:

I feel it's better to sing about these things ourselves and perform them with the people who it happened to than to have some journalist one day say 'then in 1971, one time when they were at the mudshark hotel...' But people have problems with things of a glandular nature in connection with things of a musical nature. They say why, music is way up here, and glands are way down there and they can't get 'em together, but then they are hypocritical because they take a band that doesn't sing about such things directly and couches their language a little and does it with a little choreography and say that that's great and that's real rock and roll. I maintain that there's no difference, we're just honest enough to get up and say 'this is this and that's that and here you are and respond to it' and the response is 'why... I'm hip, but of course I am offended'.