1 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Wed, Feb 13, 2013 4:20:49pm

Not to got OT so early but just heard a press conference by police regarding the Dorner stand off. They said “burners” are incendiary CS gas grenades and they believe it possible that those may have caused the fire but they are still investigating.

2 Kragar (Antichrist )  Wed, Feb 13, 2013 4:27:18pm

Sheriff Joe: Doing everything he can to get child molesters and reactionary gun nuts into schools with your kids.

3 Kragar (Antichrist )  Wed, Feb 13, 2013 4:31:09pm

Millions of hours is technically 115 years…

4 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Feb 13, 2013 4:33:08pm

Too Pathetic!

5 EPR-radar  Wed, Feb 13, 2013 4:33:43pm

re: #2 Kragar (Antichrist )

Sheriff Joe: Doing everything he can to get child molesters and reactionary gun nuts into schools with your kids.

Arpaio is just getting like minded people in the schools, people that he can trust and relate to.

6 b_sharp  Wed, Feb 13, 2013 4:33:54pm

re: #4 FemNaziBitch

Too Pathetic!

For?

7 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Feb 13, 2013 4:35:09pm

re: #6 b_sharp

For?

anything really.

Can you think of anything more pathetic? Today anyway?

8 b_sharp  Wed, Feb 13, 2013 4:36:48pm

re: #7 FemNaziBitch

anything really.

Can you think of anything more pathetic? Today anyway?

Glenn Beck?
Rush Limbaugh?
Sean Hannity?
Fox sNews?

I guess not.

9 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Feb 13, 2013 4:37:45pm

re: #8 b_sharp

Glenn Beck?
Rush Limbaugh?
Sean Hannity?
Fox sNews?

I guess not.

compared to Steven Seagal?

10 Lidane  Wed, Feb 13, 2013 4:38:29pm
11 b_sharp  Wed, Feb 13, 2013 4:41:15pm

re: #9 FemNaziBitch

compared to Steven Seagal?

He/she/it needs to be really pathetic to be more pathetic than the people I mentioned, but Seagal nails it.

12 Kragar (Antichrist )  Wed, Feb 13, 2013 4:42:44pm

re: #11 b_sharp

He/she/it needs to be really pathetic to be more pathetic than the people I mentioned, but Seagal nails it.

HOW DARE YOU MOCK HIS 115+ YEARS OF TRAINING!

13 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Feb 13, 2013 4:42:57pm

re: #11 b_sharp

He/she/it needs to be really pathetic to be more pathetic than the people I mentioned, but Seagal nails it.

yeah

14 Varek Raith  Wed, Feb 13, 2013 4:44:44pm

re: #12 Kragar (Antichrist )

HOW DARE YOU MOCK HIS 115+ YEARS OF TRAINING!

Yeah, still laughing at that one.

15 JeffFX  Wed, Feb 13, 2013 4:45:41pm

A friend sent me “info” on the National Weather Service arming up.
This turns out to be a typo fed into the Infowars lackwits, promoted by the super-genius Drudge. Brief article mentioning the start of the hysteria

Has anyone here documented how this absurd rumor propagated beyond Drudge?

16 SpaceJesus  Wed, Feb 13, 2013 4:45:41pm

Rubio on his water bottle moment: It happened because of ‘God’

[Link: www.examiner.com…]


hahaha

17 JeffFX  Wed, Feb 13, 2013 4:47:02pm

re: #16 SpaceJesus

Rubio on his water bottle moment: It happened because of ‘God’

[Link: www.examiner.com…]

hahaha

He knows his supporters. They eat that crap up with a smile.

18 Kragar (Antichrist )  Wed, Feb 13, 2013 4:47:03pm

The Nine Most Insane Quotes From The NRA’s New Apocalyptic Op-Ed

Wednesday afternoon, National Rifle Association Executive Vice President Wayne LaPierre published a bizarre, paranoid screed on the Daily Caller outlining a series of wildly implausible scenarios in which (among other things) the police will cease to exist because of the deficit and al-Qaeda will provoke the government into stealing your guns. Here are the nine most absurd quotes from LaPierre’s piece:

Cutting it down to my favorite 2:

6. Thanks To Obama, There Will Soon Be No Cops: “Meanwhile, President Obama is leading this country to financial ruin, borrowing over a trillion dollars a year for phony “stimulus” spending and other payoffs for his political cronies. Nobody knows if or when the fiscal collapse will come, but if the country is broke, there likely won’t be enough money to pay for police protection. And the American people know it.”

8. It’s Just That The Collapse Of Civilization Is Right Around The Corner: “We, the American people, clearly see the daunting forces we will undoubtedly face: terrorists, crime, drug gangs, the possibility of Euro-style debt riots, civil unrest or natural disaster.”

DOGS AND CATS LIVING TOGETHER! MASS HYSTERIA!

19 EPR-radar  Wed, Feb 13, 2013 4:47:05pm

re: #12 Kragar (Antichrist )

HOW DARE YOU MOCK HIS 115+ YEARS OF TRAINING!

It was millions of hours of training, so that would come out to several times 115 years. Such a ‘tactical expert’ should know better than to leave such an irresistible target in view.

20 Kragar (Antichrist )  Wed, Feb 13, 2013 4:47:55pm

re: #16 SpaceJesus

Rubio on his water bottle moment: It happened because of ‘God’

[Link: www.examiner.com…]

hahaha

Its a message from God. He said “Don’t vote for this putz.”

21 Kragar (Antichrist )  Wed, Feb 13, 2013 4:48:28pm

re: #19 EPR-radar

It was millions of hours of training, so that would come out to several times 115 years. Such a ‘tactical expert’ should know better than to leave such an irresistible target in view.

I did say 115+. The + makes all the difference.

22 EPR-radar  Wed, Feb 13, 2013 4:48:41pm

re: #16 SpaceJesus

Rubio on his water bottle moment: It happened because of ‘God’

[Link: www.examiner.com…]

hahaha

I don’t feel like mocking him too hard for that — after all, his thirst at that moment was the only honest part of his speech.

23 Kragar (Antichrist )  Wed, Feb 13, 2013 4:49:30pm

re: #22 EPR-radar

I don’t feel like mocking him too hard for that — after all, his thirst at that moment was the only honest part of his speech.

“That is some high quality H2O.”

24 SpaceJesus  Wed, Feb 13, 2013 4:51:53pm

I’m going to go get a beer now. Because of god.

25 b_sharp  Wed, Feb 13, 2013 4:52:07pm

re: #22 EPR-radar

I don’t feel like mocking him too hard for that — after all, his thirst at that moment was the only honest part of his speech.

It meant nothing.

26 Egregious Philbin  Wed, Feb 13, 2013 4:53:05pm

Arpaio is our state’s embarrassment, but, the local media here is really pissing him off, they keep asking the actual lawman who nearly beat Joke in the last election for soundbites whenever there is a matter involving actual law. The only reason Arpaio won was that there are still voters out there who managed to live past the age of 85.

27 EPR-radar  Wed, Feb 13, 2013 4:53:23pm

re: #25 b_sharp

It meant nothing.

Which is a considerable improvement over the recycled Romney stump speech that was the rest of his little performance.

28 Mich-again  Wed, Feb 13, 2013 4:54:27pm

If Rubio were President and the phone rang at 4AM, I hope he would have a bottle of water handy.

29 Mich-again  Wed, Feb 13, 2013 4:55:21pm

re: #23 Kragar (Antichrist )

“That is some high quality H2O.”

Mama said, Alligators are ornery cause they got all them teeth and no toothbrush.

30 FemNaziBitch  Wed, Feb 13, 2013 4:55:51pm

bbl

31 EPR-radar  Wed, Feb 13, 2013 4:57:59pm

re: #29 Mich-again

Mama said, Alligators are ornery cause they got all them teeth and no toothbrush.

Reminds me of one of the more amusing characterizations I’ve read: “… he had the disposition of a Fer de Lance with a toothache”.

32 Charles Johnson  Wed, Feb 13, 2013 4:58:12pm

re: #16 SpaceJesus

Rubio on his water bottle moment: It happened because of ‘God’

[Link: www.examiner.com…]

hahaha

A lot of people don’t realize it, but this is one of the Big Guy’s most awesome powers - the power to instantly dry up mouths.

33 JeffFX  Wed, Feb 13, 2013 4:58:51pm

re: #32 Charles Johnson

A lot of people don’t realize it, but this is one of the Big Guy’s most awesome powers - the power to instantly dry up mouths.

Are you sure you’re not thinking of marijuana?

34 wrenchwench  Wed, Feb 13, 2013 4:59:35pm

re: #32 Charles Johnson

A lot of people don’t realize it, but this is one of the Big Guy’s most awesome powers - the power to instantly dry up mouths.

Aqua Buddha?

35 Varek Raith  Wed, Feb 13, 2013 4:59:40pm

re: #16 SpaceJesus

Rubio on his water bottle moment: It happened because of ‘God’

[Link: www.examiner.com…]

hahaha

See, I didn’t mock him before because I saw nothing really mock worthy about it.
Now?
HAHAHAHAHAHA, mock on!

36 Lidane  Wed, Feb 13, 2013 4:59:59pm
37 SpaceJesus  Wed, Feb 13, 2013 5:00:25pm

re: #32 Charles Johnson

So God gave Marco a dry mouth to get him to shut up, and Marco defied His will by grabbing a bottle of Evian?

38 EPR-radar  Wed, Feb 13, 2013 5:01:43pm

re: #32 Charles Johnson

A lot of people don’t realize it, but this is one of the Big Guy’s most awesome powers - the power to instantly dry up mouths.

An alternative POV is that Republican talking points have approached such density in lies/minute that either large amounts of water are needed to deliver them, or a liar of rare talent is needed to deliver them while seeming natural and sincere.

39 Charles Johnson  Wed, Feb 13, 2013 5:01:45pm

re: #37 SpaceJesus

So God gave Marco a dry mouth to get him to shut up, and Marco defied His will by grabbing a bottle of Evian?

It was a test of Rubio’s will and devotion to the inevitability of … something.

40 Lidane  Wed, Feb 13, 2013 5:02:46pm

re: #16 SpaceJesus

Rubio on his water bottle moment: It happened because of ‘God’

[Link: www.examiner.com…]

hahaha

God: Responsible for which team wins the Super Bowl, as well as dry mouth.

Anything else, like poverty, disease, evil, Justin Bieber, etc.? That’s all the fault of teh ghey. Totally.

41 Mich-again  Wed, Feb 13, 2013 5:03:24pm

re: #37 SpaceJesus

So God gave Marco a dry mouth to get him to shut up, and Marco defied His will by grabbing a bottle of Evian?

Rubio turned water into whine.. ( stolen from Twitter)

42 Lidane  Wed, Feb 13, 2013 5:07:34pm
43 b_sharp  Wed, Feb 13, 2013 5:08:50pm

re: #42 Lidane

Ayn Rand was a philosophical pretender with a shit understanding of the human mind.

44 EPR-radar  Wed, Feb 13, 2013 5:12:15pm

re: #43 b_sharp

Ayn Rand was a philosophical pretender with a shit understanding of the human mind.

Ayn Rand’s relation with communism was very similar to the relation of a Satanist with Christianity.

In both cases, the underlying world view is accepted, and then all of the more superficial elements of dogma are reversed.

45 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Feb 13, 2013 5:12:23pm

re: #15 JeffFX

A friend sent me “info” on the National Weather Service arming up.
This turns out to be a typo fed into the Infowars lackwits, promoted by the super-genius Drudge. Brief article mentioning the start of the hysteria

Has anyone here documented how this absurd rumor propagated beyond Drudge?

They’re gonna shoot the fuck outa the next superstorm! That should stop all this stupid global warming which doesn’t exist!

46 JeffFX  Wed, Feb 13, 2013 5:14:09pm

re: #45 Vicious Babushka

I think it’s supposed to be part of all agencies arming up to oppress the American people…or something. It makes me sad when someone I know regurgitates Infowars, but I think I got through to him.

47 Lidane  Wed, Feb 13, 2013 5:14:24pm

re: #43 b_sharp

Ayn Rand was a philosophical pretender with a shit understanding of the human mind.

Yes. And she’s somehow become the patron saint of the modern right wing. It’s so weird.

48 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Feb 13, 2013 5:14:26pm

DERP

49 Lidane  Wed, Feb 13, 2013 5:15:17pm

re: #48 Vicious Babushka

Yeah, because McDonald’s will go bankrupt immediately.

WTF.

50 Kragar (Antichrist )  Wed, Feb 13, 2013 5:15:42pm

re: #48 Vicious Babushka

DERP

THEY CAN HAVE MY MCNUGGETS WHEN THEY PRY THEM FROM MY PUDGY GREASY HANDS!
/

51 JeffFX  Wed, Feb 13, 2013 5:16:02pm

re: #48 Vicious Babushka

These people who proudly announce that they’re not smarter than a teenager are a hoot.

52 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Feb 13, 2013 5:16:27pm

re: #49 Lidane

Yeah, because McDonald’s will go bankrupt immediately.

WTF.

Only the franchises. Those are “small business” ya know!

53 EPR-radar  Wed, Feb 13, 2013 5:16:43pm

re: #47 Lidane

Yes. And she’s somehow become the patron saint of the modern right wing. It’s so weird.

She gives a patina of respectability to the robber baron philosophy. For this, all else can be forgiven (i.e., atheism and being for abortion rights).

54 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Feb 13, 2013 5:19:06pm

FOOD STAMPS SHOULD BE NO MORE THAN ONE BOWL OF GRUEL PER DAY!

55 Charles Johnson  Wed, Feb 13, 2013 5:19:18pm

re: #47 Lidane

Yes. And she’s somehow become the patron saint of the modern right wing. It’s so weird.

I know how to completely end the strange right wing adoration of Ayn Rand - just force the wingnuts to actually read one of her books all the way through. That would put a stop to this foolishness, right quick.

56 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Feb 13, 2013 5:21:23pm

WHAT RIGHT-WING RACISM?

57 JeffFX  Wed, Feb 13, 2013 5:21:27pm

re: #55 Charles Johnson

Even if you could post the text of Atlas Shrugs to TheBlaze, they wouldn’t read it and instead would believe whatever their misleaders tell them to believe.

58 EPR-radar  Wed, Feb 13, 2013 5:22:18pm

re: #57 JeffFX

Even if you could post the text of Atlas Shrugs to TheBlaze, they wouldn’t read it and instead would believe whatever their misleaders tell them to believe.

In other words, they would treat it the same way as any other sacred text (e.g., the Bible).

59 b_sharp  Wed, Feb 13, 2013 5:22:59pm

How much of Ron Paul’s understanding of economics comes from Ayn Rand (who likely read and misunderstood Adam Smith)?

60 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Feb 13, 2013 5:23:11pm

DA FUQ?

61 wrenchwench  Wed, Feb 13, 2013 5:24:35pm

re: #56 Vicious Babushka

WHAT RIGHT-WING RACISM?

Don’t forget Obama spent 20 under Jeremiah Wright. Black Liberation Theology is deep in his DNA.

If he understood DNA, he would understand that racism is just stupid. But no, he goes for the stupid.

62 Single-handed sailor  Wed, Feb 13, 2013 5:25:31pm

re: #48 Vicious Babushka

DERP

Yep that $8/hr minimum California set in 2008 caused all the fast food restaurants to go out of business. //

63 Kragar (Antichrist )  Wed, Feb 13, 2013 5:25:53pm

re: #53 EPR-radar

She gives a patina of respectability to the robber baron philosophy. For this, all else can be forgiven (i.e., atheism and being for abortion rights).

When I write a steampunk superhero movie, my villian will be called “The Robber Baron.”

64 EPR-radar  Wed, Feb 13, 2013 5:26:00pm

re: #56 Vicious Babushka

OK, so this particular wingnut is a Lamarckian evolutionist…

65 Gus  Wed, Feb 13, 2013 5:26:02pm

re: #55 Charles Johnson

I know how to completely end the strange right wing adoration of Ayn Rand - just force the wingnuts to actually read one of her books all the way through. That would put a stop to this foolishness, right quick.

“John Galt” is an atheist throughout.

66 b_sharp  Wed, Feb 13, 2013 5:26:11pm

re: #60 Vicious Babushka

DA FUQ?

I suspect $9.00/hr is a 24% increase in the previous minimum wage where he’s from so he extrapolates the 24% to inflation in the entire economy, which is nonsense since inflation is driven primarily by commodities.

67 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Feb 13, 2013 5:26:23pm

re: #62 Single-handed sailor

Yep that $8/hr minimum California set in 2008 caused all the fast food restaurants to go out of business. //

WALMART WILL GO OUT OF BUSINESS!1! THEN WEAR WILL WE BYE ARE AMMO?

68 b_sharp  Wed, Feb 13, 2013 5:26:59pm

re: #63 Kragar (Antichrist )

When I write a steampunk superhero movie, my villian will be called “The Robber Baron.”

Not the Rubber Baron?

69 Kragar (Antichrist )  Wed, Feb 13, 2013 5:29:59pm

re: #68 b_sharp

Not the Rubber Baron?

That is my steampunk porno movie.

70 wrenchwench  Wed, Feb 13, 2013 5:30:08pm

Image: hEAF8B400.jpg

Later, lizards.

71 Lidane  Wed, Feb 13, 2013 5:32:29pm

re: #55 Charles Johnson

I know how to completely end the strange right wing adoration of Ayn Rand - just force the wingnuts to actually read one of her books all the way through. That would put a stop to this foolishness, right quick.

72 Lidane  Wed, Feb 13, 2013 5:33:45pm

re: #60 Vicious Babushka

DA FUQ?

Typical right wing economic illiteracy. Another child left behind.

73 Mich-again  Wed, Feb 13, 2013 5:34:45pm

Raising the minimum wage will put a few more dollars into the pockets of consumers at the low end of the wage scale who turn around and pump most of their cash right back into their local economy. Businesses do better when there are more consumers who have disposable income to spend. To simply look at a rise in minimum wage as a detriment to business’ profits is typical half-baked economics from the GOP.

74 jaunte  Wed, Feb 13, 2013 5:37:10pm

re: #73 Mich-again

“Raising the minimum wage to $9 an hour would restore its real value to what it was at the beginning of the Reagan Administration.”
[Link: www.whitehouse.gov…]

75 Gus  Wed, Feb 13, 2013 5:38:52pm

re: #73 Mich-again

Raising the minimum wage will put a few more dollars into the pockets of consumers at the low end of the wage scale who turn around and pump most of their cash right back into their local economy. Businesses do better when there are more consumers who have disposable income to spend. To simply look at a rise in minimum wage as a detriment to business’ profits is typical half-baked economics from the GOP.

Would also lower food stamp costs.

76 Charles Johnson  Wed, Feb 13, 2013 5:39:18pm

I absolutely hated Atlas Shrugged. One of the few books I’ve read in my life that I had a strong negative reaction to. The characters and viewpoint seemed sociopathic to me.

77 Mattand  Wed, Feb 13, 2013 5:40:16pm

re: #55 Charles Johnson

I know how to completely end the strange right wing adoration of Ayn Rand - just force the wingnuts to actually read one of her books all the way through. That would put a stop to this foolishness, right quick.

From what I’ve heard about Rand’s writing style, it would put a stop to their ever wanting to read again. Which book has a 46 page monologue from one of the main characters? The Fountainhead?

78 Kragar (Antichrist )  Wed, Feb 13, 2013 5:41:46pm

re: #76 Charles Johnson

I absolutely hated Atlas Shrugged. One of the few books I’ve read in my life that I had a strong negative reaction to. The characters and viewpoint seemed sociopathic to me.

79 Mattand  Wed, Feb 13, 2013 5:43:49pm

I know I’m repeating myself, but I get the impression if you want to see what would happen in an Objectivist society, play Bioshock.

Looking forward to Bioshock: Infinite next month. One of the themes it deals with is American exceptionalism run amok. Should be fun to watch the nitwits on Fox News lose their shit over it.

80 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Wed, Feb 13, 2013 5:47:10pm

re: #76 Charles Johnson

I really liked it when I read it, but I was an arrogant 16 year old who was angry at the world and trapped in a small town.

81 Lidane  Wed, Feb 13, 2013 5:48:20pm

re: #76 Charles Johnson

The characters and viewpoint seemed sociopathic to me.

That’s because they were. Ayn Rand’s entire worldview was fucked-up.

82 Kragar (Antichrist )  Wed, Feb 13, 2013 5:48:32pm

re: #79 Mattand

I know I’m repeating myself, but I get the impression if you want to see what would happen in an Objectivist society, play Bioshock.

Looking forward to Bioshock: Infinite next month. One of the themes it deals with is American exceptionalism run amok. Should be fun to watch the nitwits on Fox News lose their shit over it.

Would you kindly let us know what you think of it?

83 erik_t  Wed, Feb 13, 2013 5:48:52pm

re: #80 Glenn Beck’s Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut

I really liked it when I read it, but I was an arrogant 16 year old who was angry at the world and trapped in a small town.

O’friggin’bligatory.

There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old’s life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged . One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world. The other, of course, involves orcs.

84 Killgore Trout  Wed, Feb 13, 2013 5:49:21pm
85 gwangung  Wed, Feb 13, 2013 5:50:13pm

re: #56 Vicious Babushka

Liberation theology is a CHRISTIAN theology.

86 Lidane  Wed, Feb 13, 2013 5:52:28pm

re: #85 gwangung

Liberation theology is a liberal CHRISTIAN theology.

FTFY

The Catholic Church has railed against liberation theology for ages because it was considered too Marxist. Ex-Pope Benedict in particular hated it.

87 Mattand  Wed, Feb 13, 2013 5:52:47pm

re: #82 Kragar (Antichrist )

Would you kindly let us know what you think of it?

Sure. Just make sure you’re not holding a golf putter when I present my review.

88 Gus  Wed, Feb 13, 2013 5:55:00pm
89 EPR-radar  Wed, Feb 13, 2013 5:55:21pm

re: #86 Lidane

FTFY

The Catholic Church has railed against liberation theology for ages because it was considered too Marxist. Ex-Pope Benedict in particular hated it.

It takes hard work and dedication to make up something like the prosperity gospel (or even the RCC’s cozy relations with the powers that be) with the new testament as a starting point.

90 gwangung  Wed, Feb 13, 2013 5:55:22pm

re: #86 Lidane

FTFY

The Catholic Church has railed against liberation theology for ages because it was considered too Marxist. Ex-Pope Benedict in particular hated it.

Truth.

And not particularly related to Rev. Wright, who wasn’t Catholic.

91 Bubblehead II  Wed, Feb 13, 2013 5:58:36pm

re: #84 Killgore Trout

Oh Boy. From the comments section.

toon Today 11:02 AM

amazing, the whole cabin burned down to rubble, the body reduced to charred remains….but the drivers liciense!! the drivers liciense survived it all….
really?

but wait…didnt they say, in there very begining, he was trying to steal a boat in san diego and they knew it was him because they found his wallet and identification there…then how did it end up in a burned out cabin….

92 Killgore Trout  Wed, Feb 13, 2013 6:00:28pm

re: #91 Bubblehead II

Oh Boy.

toon Today 11:02 AM

amazing, the whole cabin burned down to rubble, the body reduced to charred remains….but the drivers liciense!! the drivers liciense survived it all….
really?

but wait…didnt they say, in there very begining, he was trying to steal a boat in san diego and they knew it was him because they found his wallet and identification there…then how did it end up in a burned out cabin….

Aliens?

93 EPR-radar  Wed, Feb 13, 2013 6:02:26pm

re: #77 Mattand

From what I’ve heard about Rand’s writing style, it would put a stop to their ever wanting to read again. Which book has a 46 page monologue from one of the main characters? The Fountainhead?

Galt’s speech is the high point (or low point) of Atlas Shrugged .

94 engineer cat  Wed, Feb 13, 2013 6:03:31pm

re: #81 Lidane

That’s because they were. Ayn Rand’s entire worldview was fucked-up.

if we call it “objectivism”, it’s an esoteric hobby philosophy adhered to by very few

if we call it “selfishness”, it’s endemic in the human tribe

what the difference is in practice, though, i couldn’t tell you

95 Kragar (Antichrist )  Wed, Feb 13, 2013 6:03:43pm

re: #93 EPR-radar

Galt’s speech is the high point (or low point) of Atlas Shrugged .

John Galt doesn’t strike me as the kind of man who unclogs his own sewage lines.

96 Bubblehead II  Wed, Feb 13, 2013 6:04:46pm

re: #92 Killgore Trout

Aliens?

Nah, nothing so simple.

[Link: latimesblogs.latimes.com…]

About 2 a.m., a citizen reported finding property belonging to Dorner on a street near Lindbergh Field, not far from the scene of the attempted boat theft. The property included a briefcase and Dorner’s LAPD badge.

97 EPR-radar  Wed, Feb 13, 2013 6:05:49pm

re: #94 engineer cat

if we call it “objectivism”, it’s an esoteric hobby philosophy adhered to by very few

if we call it “selfishness”, it’s endemic in the human tribe

what the difference is in practice, though, i couldn’t tell you

The objectivist believes that selfishness is a virtue.

Most ordinary selfish people aren’t willing to go that far.

This makes a surprising difference in practice —- the ‘greed is good’ business in the 80s set the stage for a large chunk of the troubles we face.

98 Killgore Trout  Wed, Feb 13, 2013 6:05:49pm

re: #96 Bubblehead II

Nah, nothing so simple.

[Link: latimesblogs.latimes.com…]

About 2 a.m., a citizen reported finding property belonging to Dorner on a street near Lindbergh Field, not far from the scene of the attempted boat theft. The property included a briefcase and Dorner’s LAPD badge.

Inside job, thermite paint, Mossad.

99 Killgore Trout  Wed, Feb 13, 2013 6:06:33pm

INCENDIARY DEVICE!

100 Gus  Wed, Feb 13, 2013 6:08:40pm

re: #98 Killgore Trout

Inside job, thermite paint, Mossad.

Told ya. Teh Juice killed Dorner!

//

101 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Wed, Feb 13, 2013 6:09:23pm

re: #99 Killgore Trout

INCENDIARY DEVICE!

Tear gas grenades are incendiary devices. It’s not their main purpose, but it is something they are.

102 danarchy  Wed, Feb 13, 2013 6:12:33pm

re: #100 Gus

Told ya. Teh Juice killed Dorner!

//

Why did you have to bring OJ into this…besides, isn’t he still in prison?

OJ throws Superbowl Party in prison

103 Gus  Wed, Feb 13, 2013 6:12:44pm

re: #101 Glenn Beck’s Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut

Tear gas grenades are incendiary devices. It’s not their main purpose, but it is something they are.

That’s why you need BurnSafe.

104 Mentis Fugit  Wed, Feb 13, 2013 6:15:37pm

re: #73 Mich-again

Raising the minimum wage will put a few more dollars into the pockets of consumers at the low end of the wage scale who turn around and pump most of their cash right back into their local economy. Businesses do better when there are more consumers who have disposable income to spend. To simply look at a rise in minimum wage as a detriment to business’ profits is typical half-baked economics from the GOP.

Henry Ford may have been an anti-Semitic crypto-Nazi scrote of the first water, but he understood at least that much.

I wonder if the trust fund plonkers wailing doom and gloom over an increase to the minimum wage imagine that the extra lolly will be stashed away in the Caymans, because that’s totally what they would do.

105 Gus  Wed, Feb 13, 2013 6:19:14pm

Fooking ankle. Anyway, it appears that most tear gas can cause fires. Also see Chemical Agents and Fire.

106 Killgore Trout  Wed, Feb 13, 2013 6:20:21pm

re: #100 Gus

Told ya. Teh Juice killed Dorner!

//

Max Blumenthal is already investigating.

107 EPR-radar  Wed, Feb 13, 2013 6:21:09pm

re: #104 Mentis Fugit

Henry Ford may have been an anti-Semitic crypto-Nazi scrote of the first water, but he understood at least that much.

I wonder if the trust fund plonkers wailing doom and gloom over an increase to the minimum wage imagine that the extra lolly will be stashed away in the Caymans, because that’s totally what they would do.

Too much money is being made by BS financial crap like derivatives etc. Thus, many of the uber-wealthy (even those that work for a living) have absolutely no appreciation that widespread demand is a good thing to have in an economy.

108 Kragar (Antichrist )  Wed, Feb 13, 2013 6:22:11pm

For first time in U.S. history, Republicans filibuster new defense secretary

Republicans demanding answers from President Barack Obama’s pick to head the Pentagon forced Senate leaders Wednesday to delay a vote, throwing Chuck Hagel’s confirmation into doubt.

Senators James Inhofe and Lindsey Graham have expressed strong opposition to rushing Hagel’s confirmation process, and after Hagel was narrowly approved by the Senate Armed Services Committee on Tuesday, the Republicans insisted they would try to block a vote in the full Senate.

“This is the first time in the history of our country that a presidential nominee for secretary of defense has been filibustered. What a shame,” Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid said on the floor of the chamber.

109 Gus  Wed, Feb 13, 2013 6:23:54pm

This might seem to be a stretch but calling it “incendiary tear gas” is a bit misleading since tear gas is by nature, incendiary.

110 Killgore Trout  Wed, Feb 13, 2013 6:24:14pm

Can’t wait until Valentine’s Day is over. The holiday itself doesn’t bother me but the advertising blitz on the radio makes it unbearable. The hype is worse than Christmas which at least has a “peace and good will” vibe thrown in. This Valentines stuff is just spend, spend, spend.

111 Bubblehead II  Wed, Feb 13, 2013 6:24:15pm

re: #108 Kragar (Antichrist )

We must first destroy this Country in order to save this Country.

Wingnut logic.

112 EPR-radar  Wed, Feb 13, 2013 6:26:48pm

re: #108 Kragar (Antichrist )

This article omits the fact that the Senate committee vote on Hagel was party-line.

Another instance of ‘there is no such thing as a moderate Republican’.

113 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Feb 13, 2013 6:27:38pm

re: #110 Killgore Trout

Can’t wait until Valentine’s Day is over. The holiday itself doesn’t bother me but the advertising blitz on the radio makes it unbearable. The hype is worse than Christmas which at least has a “peace and good will” vibe thrown in. This Valentines stuff is just spend, spend, spend.

Don’t have a girlfriend?

114 goddamnedfrank  Wed, Feb 13, 2013 6:30:06pm

re: #110 Killgore Trout

The holiday itself doesn’t bother me but the advertising blitz on the radio makes it unbearable.

LOL, people still listen to commercial radio?

115 Gus  Wed, Feb 13, 2013 6:31:24pm

re: #106 Killgore Trout

Max Blumenthal is already investigating.

Here ya go.

30,000 Drones Over America! Obama’s Weaponized Police State!

116 Gus  Wed, Feb 13, 2013 6:32:49pm

Guess people have forgotten about the old days when a cop could just say “halt in the name of the law” and could shoot you right there and then if you didn’t halt and no one would bat any eye.

117 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Wed, Feb 13, 2013 6:33:08pm

re: #109 Gus

This might seem to be a stretch but calling it “incendiary tear gas” is a bit misleading since tear gas is by nature, incendiary.

It’s misleading in that it sort of implies maybe that it’s being used as an incendiary, but not mentioning that it’s incendiary is also misleading because most people don’t know tear gas grenades are incendiary.

118 Gus  Wed, Feb 13, 2013 6:33:30pm

Dirigibles!

119 Gus  Wed, Feb 13, 2013 6:34:25pm

re: #117 Glenn Beck’s Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut

It’s misleading in that it sort of implies maybe that it’s being used as an incendiary, but not mentioning that it’s incendiary is also misleading because most people don’t know tear gas grenades are incendiary.

Well, it sort of implies that the police used it for incendiary purposes. That is to cause a fire. They’d have to prove that first.

120 Killgore Trout  Wed, Feb 13, 2013 6:34:46pm

re: #118 Gus

Dirigibles!

Steam punk drones!

121 EPR-radar  Wed, Feb 13, 2013 6:35:45pm

re: #116 Gus

Guess people have forgotten about the old days when a cop could just say “halt in the name of the law” and could shoot you right there and then if you didn’t halt and no one would bat any eye.

I wouldn’t want to return to those old days. If these are the rules, a cop could blow away anyone they don’t like, as long as there are no witnesses.

122 Gus  Wed, Feb 13, 2013 6:36:41pm

re: #120 Killgore Trout

Steam punk drones!

The Lincoln drone!

123 Gus  Wed, Feb 13, 2013 6:44:23pm

re: #121 EPR-radar

I wouldn’t want to return to those old days. If these are the rules, a cop could blow away anyone they don’t like, as long as there are no witnesses.

Well, the point being that many protections have been put in place over the years even though it’s still a work in progress.

124 Glenn Beck's Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut  Wed, Feb 13, 2013 6:47:35pm

re: #119 Gus

Well, it sort of implies that the police used it for incendiary purposes. That is to cause a fire. They’d have to prove that first.

Not really, no. It only sort of vaguely implies that, and in all the stories I’ve seen, they correctly say that these grenades can cause fire but were being used to try to get him to come out, and described the fire as a ‘risk’ of using them and not a purpose.

Free of context, maybe it’d be a weird thing to say but in context it’s completely reasonable to call them incendiary tear gas grenades, especially since they may have caused the fire.

125 Gus  Wed, Feb 13, 2013 6:50:28pm

re: #124 Glenn Beck’s Grand Unifying Theory of Obdicut

Not really, no. It only sort of vaguely implies that, and in all the stories I’ve seen, they correctly say that these grenades can cause fire but were being used to try to get him to come out, and described the fire as a ‘risk’ of using them and not a purpose.

Free of context, maybe it’d be a weird thing to say but in context it’s completely reasonable to call them incendiary tear gas grenades, especially since they may have caused the fire.

Yep. Shit happens. No loss.


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