Pat Robertson: Simple Africans More Likely to Experience Miracles Than Over-Educated Americans

We’re missing out by not being ignorant
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Pat Robertson, the nutty uncle of the evangelist right, neatly sums up the problem with America in this clip from Right Wing Watch: Americans have too much book learnin’, and it keeps them from seeing miracles all the time like they do in Africa, where they’re “simple and humble.”

I think he hits the wingnut trifecta in this one: anti-intellectual, anti-science and patronizingly racist.

“Well, we are so sophisticated, we think we’ve got everything figured out, we know about evolution, we know about Darwin, we know about all these things that says God isn’t real, we know about all this stuff,” Robertson lamented, “in many schools, in the most advanced schools, we have been inundated with skepticism and secularism.”

Unlike these too-educated Americans, “overseas they are simple and humble” and are more ready to accept miracles.

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164 comments
1 engineer cat  Tue, Apr 2, 2013 12:54:40pm

“there’s a seeker born every minute!”

2 darthstar  Tue, Apr 2, 2013 12:55:50pm

Simple, humble, and ready to accept miracles. Sounds like the Romneys…except for the simple and humble part.

3 Targetpractice  Tue, Apr 2, 2013 12:56:06pm
Unlike these too-educated Americans, “overseas they are simple and humble” and are more ready to accept miracles.

Translation: We’re being revealed as the hucksters and frauds we’ve always been and it’s costing us money!

4 darthstar  Tue, Apr 2, 2013 12:56:29pm

re: #1 engineer cat

“there’s a seeker born every moment!”

Image: Harry_Potter_and_Snitch.JPG

5 darthstar  Tue, Apr 2, 2013 12:57:55pm

re: #3 Targetpractice

Pat Robertson is a glorified carnival barker.

6 jamesfirecat  Tue, Apr 2, 2013 12:57:57pm

I bet they are also more likely to be abducted by aliens…

7 erik_t  Tue, Apr 2, 2013 12:58:43pm

So Robertson’s God is less powerful than scientific understanding? Good to know.

8 Single-handed sailor  Tue, Apr 2, 2013 1:01:52pm
Americans have too much book learnin’, and it keeps them from seeing miracles all the time like they do in Africa, where they’re “simple and humble.”

Yeah, and witches are always stealing their penises.

9 HappyWarrior  Tue, Apr 2, 2013 1:02:40pm

I am sure Liberia felt it was a real miracle when you helped out Charles Taylor, Pat.

10 Charles Johnson  Tue, Apr 2, 2013 1:02:46pm

That’s pretty much what he’s saying.

11 HappyWarrior  Tue, Apr 2, 2013 1:08:30pm

It’s worth noting that Pat Robertson’s father was a staunch segregationist senator. So, my surprise that he’s using racist bullshit is nil.

12 Blue Point  Tue, Apr 2, 2013 1:09:19pm

If he has the ear of God why does he need my money?

13 Lidane  Tue, Apr 2, 2013 1:09:51pm

What right wing racism?

14 darthstar  Tue, Apr 2, 2013 1:09:54pm

re: #12 Blue Point

If he has the ear of God why does he need my money?

God’s ear doesn’t accept collect calls.

15 Interesting Times  Tue, Apr 2, 2013 1:10:12pm

I’ll believe in miracles when the GOP abandons its gibbering anti-science idiocy and treats poor/LGBT/non-white/non-Christians with dignity and respect.

16 Blue Point  Tue, Apr 2, 2013 1:11:32pm

“Why can I not see these miracles, Pat?” Because you have an education and can see right through them. Here. Hit yourself repeatedly with this rock. You may see the light.

17 darthstar  Tue, Apr 2, 2013 1:14:30pm

re: #15 Interesting Times

I’ll believe in miracles when the GOP abandons its gibbering anti-science idiocy and treats poor/LGBT/non-white/non-Christians with dignity and respect.

18 victor27  Tue, Apr 2, 2013 1:19:27pm

Arthur C. Clarke famously said

“Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic.”

But he was encouraging technology, and looking towards the future, not wishing us back to a “simpler and humbler” time.

Besides, one of Clarke’s other favorite sayings was this:

“The universe is not only stranger than we imagine, it’s stranger than we can imagine.”

Intellectual humility writ large.

19 engineer cat  Tue, Apr 2, 2013 1:22:01pm

Well, we are so sophisticated, we think we’ve got everything

i don’t believe anything i hear, and only half of what i see, and you talk too much, preacher man

20 Political Atheist  Tue, Apr 2, 2013 1:26:25pm

re: #19 engineer cat

Pat is sadly hosting well past the sell by date.

21 Charles Johnson  Tue, Apr 2, 2013 1:28:10pm

He may sound like a crazy uncle, but ol’ Pat still has millions of viewers who watch this show, believe everything he says, and take it to heart.

22 iceweasel  Tue, Apr 2, 2013 1:29:53pm

If only you loved God enough, he would HEAL you of your chronic sickness!

23 wrenchwench  Tue, Apr 2, 2013 1:30:47pm

Maybe Pat should put on some work clothes, give up the fancy studio, and do his broadcast without makeup. Isn’t that what God is looking for?

24 freetoken  Tue, Apr 2, 2013 1:33:47pm

re: #21 Charles Johnson

He was a pioneer of using television networking to build up and rally the American religious “conservatives”, and Robertson is responsible for bringing many of prominent religiously minded social activists/politicians to fame.

25 Eventual Carrion  Tue, Apr 2, 2013 1:35:04pm

re: #16 Blue Point

“Why can I not see these miracles, Pat?” Because you have an education and can see right through them. Here. Hit yourself repeatedly with this rock. You may see the light.

Smart enough to know that that lighter flame is just flammable gas ignited by a spark and not the work of a god commanding fire from his hand.

26 iceweasel  Tue, Apr 2, 2013 1:35:20pm

re: #24 freetoken

He was a pioneer of using television networking to build up and rally the American religious “conservatives”, and Robertson is responsible for bringing many of prominent religiously minded social activists/politicians to fame.

Put your hands on this TeeVee set and you will be HEALED!

27 Dancing along the light of day  Tue, Apr 2, 2013 1:35:39pm

re: #22 iceweasel

Ice, baby!
*waves*

28 Dancing along the light of day  Tue, Apr 2, 2013 1:36:12pm

re: #26 iceweasel

Give me money to keep broadcasting and you will be healed!

29 freetoken  Tue, Apr 2, 2013 1:36:24pm

For example, the current hot token of the right wing, Ben Carson, has been pushed by Robertson and his network for some time, e.g.:

Dr. Ben Carson: The Hollywood Story

Robertson was pushing Carson long before the GOP hierarchy discovered him.

30 freetoken  Tue, Apr 2, 2013 1:37:21pm

Speaking of Carson, Weigel dismantles the whole right wing talking point:

If You’re Paying Attention to the Words People Use, You’re Obviously a Racist

31 erik_t  Tue, Apr 2, 2013 1:38:49pm

The greatest honor I, an alleged thinking creation of God, could do to such a God is to use the awesome special brain he gave me to explain away the apparent miracles around me.

I will truly never understand the opposing school of thought. It’s not irrational, it’s quite literally anti-rational.

32 iceweasel  Tue, Apr 2, 2013 1:40:47pm

re: #31 erik_t

The greatest honor I, an alleged thinking creation of God, could do to such a God is to use the awesome special brain he gave me to explain away the apparent miracles around me.

I will truly never understand the opposing school of thought. It’s not irrational, it’s quite literally anti-rational.

That first paragraph is pretty much straight-up Descartes.

re: #27 Dancing along the light of day

Ice, baby!
*waves*

hey cutie! How the heck are you?

33 kirkspencer  Tue, Apr 2, 2013 1:41:52pm

re: #31 erik_t

The greatest honor I, an alleged thinking creation of God, could do to such a God is to use the awesome special brain he gave me to explain away the apparent miracles around me.

I will truly never understand the opposing school of thought. It’s not irrational, it’s quite literally anti-rational.

Is it not possible that God is lonely and seeks not peons but partners? Let us master the building of this universe that He may say, “Welcome, friend. Now let us work True miracles together.”

34 freetoken  Tue, Apr 2, 2013 1:44:42pm
35 Jimmah  Tue, Apr 2, 2013 1:44:55pm
36 Dancing along the light of day  Tue, Apr 2, 2013 1:44:57pm

re: #32 iceweasel

Fabulous, and you?

37 iceweasel  Tue, Apr 2, 2013 1:47:34pm

re: #33 kirkspencer

Is it not possible that God is lonely and seeks not peons but partners? Let us master the building of this universe that He may say, “Welcome, friend. Now let us work True miracles together.”

Is it not possible that God is rather busy and seeks not partners but peons? Let us master the building of this universe that we might seek to build another. He may say, “Beat it, peon. If only you weren’t so edumacated I might work a miracle.”

38 erik_t  Tue, Apr 2, 2013 1:51:18pm

re: #34 freetoken

Funny Vanity Fair jab:

Play Republicans-Supporting-Gay-Marriage Bingo!

Well….

STUART STEVENS: First, I think we have to say, 200 hours ago, Hillary Clinton hadn’t announced that she was for gay marriage. The 2008 Democratic platform that Barack Obama ran on was not for gay marriage. So I think it’s good to take a step back and look at where the country is on this and where people are thinking about it and looking into their hearts and coming to a decision. I think to try to divide this between political lines is really the wrong way to go. And it’s clearly not a party issue when you have Hillary Clinton following Rob Portman. I don’t think people are looking at it as an R and D issue.

THEY DON’T ALL SUPPORT IT EITHER!!!!1

Quicker on the draw than I expected.

39 freetoken  Tue, Apr 2, 2013 1:52:17pm

Over educated Americans Brits… would Pat approve?


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40 iceweasel  Tue, Apr 2, 2013 1:54:13pm

re: #36 Dancing along the light of day

Fabulous, and you?

We’re spiffy, thanks for asking! :) Glad to hear you’re doing well.

41 Jimmah  Tue, Apr 2, 2013 1:54:49pm
42 goddamnedfrank  Tue, Apr 2, 2013 1:55:45pm

Is it not possible that God recognized its incompatibility with Creation, and abandoned it out of kindness?

43 freetoken  Tue, Apr 2, 2013 1:55:56pm

Gee… I wonder how this will play out in wingnutville?

James Hansen retires from NASA

He’s 72 and obviously been eligible to retire for a while.

De-shackled from the controls put on government employees, I wonder what will happen now?

44 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Tue, Apr 2, 2013 1:56:59pm

re: #21 Charles Johnson

He may sound like a crazy uncle, but ol’ Pat still has millions of viewers who watch this show, believe everything he says, and take it to heart.

They’re obviously too smart dumb to not believe in miracles.

45 iceweasel  Tue, Apr 2, 2013 1:57:38pm

re: #42 goddamnedfrank

Is it not possible that God recognized its incompatibility with Creation, and abandoned it out of kindness?

What do you mean by incompatibility with Creation?

46 Targetpractice  Tue, Apr 2, 2013 1:58:42pm

re: #43 freetoken

Gee… I wonder how this will play out in wingnutville?

James Hansen retires from NASA

He’s 72 and obviously been eligible to retire for a while.

De-shackled from the controls put on government employees, I wonder what will happen now?

He was forced out because he was drawing too much attention to the government’s lies! They have to keep the hoax going!

47 Jimmah  Tue, Apr 2, 2013 1:59:51pm
48 freetoken  Tue, Apr 2, 2013 2:00:20pm

re: #46 Targetpractice

First comment on the CBS news online story:

MSGBARTLETT says:In other words, the guy is a liberal kook. Good riddance, dont let the screen door designed to exchange dense hot air from an area of high pressure into an area of lower pressure hit you in the butt on the way out.

Classic butt-hurt from the know-nothings.

49 iossarian  Tue, Apr 2, 2013 2:01:05pm

re: #38 erik_t

Well….

Quicker on the draw than I expected.

That Republican effort at deflection is awesome because it both admits that being anti-gay marriage is wrong (hey, Democrats used to have this position too!), and that Republicans are still mostly anti-gay marriage, or “looking into their hearts” as he puts it.

50 freetoken  Tue, Apr 2, 2013 2:06:56pm

Ben Carson is picking up all the right friends:


Ben Carson’s New Ally: Anti-Gay Bigot Bill Donohue

51 kirkspencer  Tue, Apr 2, 2013 2:07:05pm

re: #43 freetoken

Gee… I wonder how this will play out in wingnutville?

James Hansen retires from NASA

He’s 72 and obviously been eligible to retire for a while.

De-shackled from the controls put on government employees, I wonder what will happen now?

Off-hand, it’ll be met with ugly glee that would only be topped by seeing Mann go away.

52 freetoken  Tue, Apr 2, 2013 2:08:38pm

re: #51 kirkspencer

The know-nothings believe their own hateful propaganda. They actually believe climate change is a “hoax” so they think it has to be promulgated as such by a few hoaxers.

53 goddamnedfrank  Tue, Apr 2, 2013 2:09:52pm

re: #45 iceweasel

What do you mean by incompatibility with Creation?

Well, if I had power over all mankind I would be a tyrant. With best of intentions sure, but that’s just self awareness. From the perspective of much of humanity I’d be a massive buzzkill. If we’re being honest with ourselves, and why should God be any different, power corrupts. It’s why the old testament God is such a gigantic prick, that’s realistic, people would be pissing you off constantly, and after several thousand years even the most well adjusted personality is going to fucking lose it, fly off the handle and drown everything.

Then there’s the whole fate vs. free will thing. Why would God endow man with free will if there’s some kind of actual plan for everything, I mean that’s a huge handicap. I think if there is or ever was a God actually worth worshiping that early on they separated themselves completely from Creation out of love.

“You either die a hero, or you live long enough to see yourself become the villain.”

54 Dancing along the light of day  Tue, Apr 2, 2013 2:11:17pm

re: #37 iceweasel

Minions! HE wants minions!
LOL!

55 Kragar  Tue, Apr 2, 2013 2:14:07pm

If there is a hell, Pat Robertson has reserved seating.

56 iceweasel  Tue, Apr 2, 2013 2:14:51pm

re: #53 goddamnedfrank

I think if there is or ever was a God actually worth worshiping that early on they separated themselves completely from Creation out of love.

Well, “worthy of worship” is problematic— Is he omnipotent, omniscient, and omnibenevolent? because if he is all three, he surely could have created a universe better than this one.

57 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Tue, Apr 2, 2013 2:17:01pm

re: #55 Kragar

If there is a hell, Pat Robertson has reserved seating.

If there is a hell I want front row seats.

58 Kragar  Tue, Apr 2, 2013 2:17:26pm

Fischer: Homosexuality Is Immoral Because God Says So

On his broadcast today, Fischer dedicated an entire segment to making the case that God says homosexuality is immoral and that is all there is too it and so this ought to be the central argument made against it every single time.

“God’s wisdom trumps man’s wisdom every time,” Fischer declared, “and it does so in every circumstance … It is immoral behavior and we shouldn’t have any hesitation in saying that. We ought to have no qualms about declaring that it is immoral, sinful behavior. How do we know that? Because we have God’s perspective, we have God’s counsel, we have God’s wisdom and that trumps man’s wisdom. It does not matter what man says about homosexual conduct; we know that it is immoral and sinful behavior because God has revealed that to us in his word and has revealed it to us in nature”:

Simple solution: Subpoena God and let him make his argument in court. If he chooses not to appear, he’s waived his right to have his argument heard.

59 iceweasel  Tue, Apr 2, 2013 2:17:54pm

Mr. Deity and the Evil:

60 goddamnedfrank  Tue, Apr 2, 2013 2:19:00pm

re: #56 iceweasel

because if he is all three, he surely could have created a universe better than this one.

Maybe he did, and we got stuck with a Beta, an abandonware version of Creation.

61 iceweasel  Tue, Apr 2, 2013 2:20:28pm

re: #60 goddamnedfrank

Maybe he did, and we got stuck with a Beta, an abandonware version of Creation.

I could believe that. :)

62 [deleted]  Tue, Apr 2, 2013 2:21:25pm
63 goddamnedfrank  Tue, Apr 2, 2013 2:23:35pm
64 ProBosniaLiberal  Tue, Apr 2, 2013 2:24:15pm

Just saw this story:

Hardy Jackson’s final farewell

A man most recognized for the loss of his wife during hurricane Katrina passed away over the weekend after a year-long battle with lung cancer.

You have to wonder how many will end up dying because of the Health Effects of Katrina. I would imagine it would be worse than 9/11’s health impact, just because the scale is so much bigger.

65 Charles Johnson  Tue, Apr 2, 2013 2:28:03pm

By the way, that libertarian freak is at it again: twitter.com

66 mgardener  Tue, Apr 2, 2013 2:28:45pm

So Jesus on a toast of bread was not a “miracle” ????
Who knew?????
When I read this, I imagined God as the ‘soup nazi’ from Seinfeld leaning over and pointing indiscriminately at the US of A and saying,
” no miracles for you” You know too much!!!!!!

67 Political Atheist  Tue, Apr 2, 2013 2:32:58pm

re: #65 Charles Johnson

Just a real bundle of hate and anger there. Need my Tyvek HazMat overalls and a respirator to approach. That dude is gonna pop.

68 iceweasel  Tue, Apr 2, 2013 2:36:57pm

re: #65 Charles Johnson

By the way, that libertarian freak is at it again: twitter.com

Wow, what a freak!

You support war crimes that kill innocent people. You have blood on your hands. I hope you die of an aneurysm.

Nice.

69 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Tue, Apr 2, 2013 2:37:57pm

Hey! I want to make $50/hr at home.

No wait, I already make more than that.

Forget it.

70 wrenchwench  Tue, Apr 2, 2013 2:39:32pm

re: #68 iceweasel

Wow, what a freak!

Nice.

At least Local Media Monitor leaves off the ‘hope you die’ part.

71 iceweasel  Tue, Apr 2, 2013 2:39:51pm

re: #69 Walking Spanish Down the Hall

Hey! I want to make $50/hr at home.

No wait, I already make more than that.

Forget it.

Heisenberg showed the way…///

/obligatory Breaking Bad ref.

72 iceweasel  Tue, Apr 2, 2013 2:40:16pm

re: #70 wrenchwench

At least Local Media Monitor leaves off the ‘hope you die’ part.

Ok, that made me laugh!

73 iceweasel  Tue, Apr 2, 2013 2:43:12pm
You support drone strikes. You have blood on your hands. I hope you die of a heart attack, you worthless sociopath.

Someone seriously needs a mirror….

74 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Tue, Apr 2, 2013 2:44:03pm

re: #71 iceweasel

Heisenberg showed the way…///

/obligatory Breaking Bad ref.

I make my living selling drunks.

75 erik_t  Tue, Apr 2, 2013 2:44:35pm

re: #73 iceweasel

The only parts of the deleted post I’m seeing are those in blockquotes.

Just sayin’.

76 Dancing along the light of day  Tue, Apr 2, 2013 2:46:19pm

re: #73 iceweasel

We both look cute!
No wait…

77 ProBosniaLiberal  Tue, Apr 2, 2013 2:46:32pm

re: #75 erik_t

No, that’s not the deleted post.

The deleted post was a spam.

78 Charles Johnson  Tue, Apr 2, 2013 2:49:05pm

There’s a spammer somewhere in Pakistan who thinks he’s being tricky.

79 iceweasel  Tue, Apr 2, 2013 2:49:15pm

re: #75 erik_t

The only parts of the deleted post I’m seeing are those in blockquotes.

Just sayin’.

?? Didn’t quote or talk about the deleted post.

73 is about the crazy glibertarian’s twitter feed.

80 Dancing along the light of day  Tue, Apr 2, 2013 2:50:33pm

re: #79 iceweasel

I don’t WANT or need to know what a “crazy gilbertarin” is
Thank you ever so…
:)

81 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Tue, Apr 2, 2013 2:51:38pm

This is my post post.

82 Dancing along the light of day  Tue, Apr 2, 2013 2:51:59pm

For Jimmah….


I am being loud this afternoon!
83 Kragar  Tue, Apr 2, 2013 2:55:51pm

Louie Gohmert Opposes Gun Control Because Gay Marriage Leads to Bestiality

In fact, I had this discussion with some wonderful, caring Democrats earlier this week on the issue of, well, they said “surely you could agree to limit the number of rounds in a magazine, couldn’t you? How would that be problematic?”

And I pointed out, well, once you make it ten, then why would you draw the line at ten? What’s wrong with nine? Or eleven? And the problem is once you draw that limit ; it’s kind of like marriage when you say it’s not a man and a woman any more, then why not have three men and one woman, or four women and one man, or why not somebody has a love for an animal?

There is no clear place to draw the line once you eliminate the traditional marriage and it’s the same once you start putting limits on what guns can be used, then it’s just really easy to have laws that make them all illegal.

Earlier in the discussion, Gohmert called on Christians to take a more active role in politics … because otherwise their churches are going to be forced to hire cross-dressing Satan-worshipers:

84 iceweasel  Tue, Apr 2, 2013 2:57:36pm

re: #83 Kragar

otherwise their churches are going to be forced to hire cross-dressing Satan-worshipers:

Goddamnit, your post cut off just as it was getting really interesting.

85 erik_t  Tue, Apr 2, 2013 2:59:48pm

re: #83 Kragar

Louie Gohmert Opposes Gun Control Because Gay Marriage Leads to Bestiality

That man is a national treasure, and by treasure I mean cover-your-eyes embarrassment.

86 Backwoods_Sleuth  Tue, Apr 2, 2013 3:01:07pm

re: #21 Charles Johnson

He may sound like a crazy uncle, but ol’ Pat still has millions of viewers who watch this show, believe everything he says, and take it to heart.

Well, there you have it. Proof that lots of folks here are indeed unsophisticated enough to believe in miracles.
He refudiates his own stupid argument…

87 Kragar  Tue, Apr 2, 2013 3:02:05pm

Warning: Link goes to WND

WND: Reince Priebus must go!

I have but one question to ask you: Do you take kindly to the very recent remarks from Republican National Committee Chairman Reince Priebus calling Christian Republicans Old Testament heretics for not supporting same-sex marriage in America? He went on further to tell the GOP to modernize the party if they expect to win future national elections.


I am calling for you today to come together with me and the Black Robe Brigade to insist as both Christians and Republican voters that Chairman Priebus resign. His failures outnumber his accomplishments, unless of course you consider his abandonment of conservative voters who stand against same-sex marriage and the attack against our Second Amendment accomplishments.

88 Kragar  Tue, Apr 2, 2013 3:02:25pm

re: #84 iceweasel

Goddamnit, your post cut off just as it was getting really interesting.

Just go to the link

89 Jimmah  Tue, Apr 2, 2013 3:04:00pm

re: #88 Kragar

Just go to the link

I think she was making a joke :)

90 erik_t  Tue, Apr 2, 2013 3:04:51pm

re: #87 Kragar

Warning: Link goes to WND

WND: Reince Priebus must go!

Invest in popcorn futures.

91 Dancing along the light of day  Tue, Apr 2, 2013 3:05:21pm

re: #84 iceweasel

Goddamnit, your post cut off just as it was getting really interesting.

Spews. Now I have to clean up my keyboard!

92 ProBosniaLiberal  Tue, Apr 2, 2013 3:09:25pm

Meanwhile, because I have FB, I see how people I thought gave a damn and have been telling me how they are constantly busy are out doing stuff.

It’s dawning on me that I am not important to anyone. People want to know why I am angry? This is why. The feeling of knowing no matter how hard I have worked to try and improve, it will never be enough. That, and the fact anger is at least a distraction from falling into a bottomless pit of despair.

I feed the anger on Norway so I won’t end up imploding completely.

93 Jimmah  Tue, Apr 2, 2013 3:09:41pm

I’m off to fly me whippets!

Night all.

94 Targetpractice  Tue, Apr 2, 2013 3:10:49pm

re: #87 Kragar

Warning: Link goes to WND

WND: Reince Priebus must go!

Circular firing squad. Ready! Fire! Aim!

95 Dancing along the light of day  Tue, Apr 2, 2013 3:11:14pm

re: #93 Jimmah

It’s daytime here, and, AHEM, the whippets don’t need flying.
Just saying!

97 Targetpractice  Tue, Apr 2, 2013 3:19:25pm
98 ProBosniaLiberal  Tue, Apr 2, 2013 3:20:07pm

re: #92 ProBosniaLiberal

Yes, I do realize I am becoming as angry and bitter as someone several times my age. At least I won’t implode.

99 Kragar  Tue, Apr 2, 2013 3:22:02pm

Limbaugh freaks out: ‘Vladimir Putin is saying things I agree with’ on LGBT rights

“It freaks me out,” Limbaugh said. “I have to tell ya, it freaks me out that Vladimir Putin is saying things that I agree with. The Russian president has opposed the adoption of Russian orphans by lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender foreign couples, and has instructed the government and supreme court there to prepare changes to existing law by July 1.”

He added it’s “ironic” that he now agrees with Putin, even after growing up fearing the Russians and being told that liberals secretly love Soviet-style communism.

“To the left, and still today, the United States was the great Satan,” Limbaugh insisted. “And so now here’s a KGB officer who is — this guy is what he is, he’s an old communist — and he’s speaking out against the popular issue of the day in Russia.”

Ironic, yeah, that is the word for it.

100 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Tue, Apr 2, 2013 3:22:40pm

re: #98 ProBosniaLiberal

Yes, I do realize I am becoming as angry and bitter as someone several times my age. At least I won’t implode.

Well then stop it.

101 HappyWarrior  Tue, Apr 2, 2013 3:22:40pm

re: #83 Kragar

Louie Gohmert Opposes Gun Control Because Gay Marriage Leads to Bestiality

I see that Louie Gohmert is still on some really bad drugs. Most batshit member of the House and that’s a hard award to win when you have so many other batshits to compete with.

102 HappyWarrior  Tue, Apr 2, 2013 3:24:12pm

re: #99 Kragar

Limbaugh freaks out: ‘Vladimir Putin is saying things I agree with’ on LGBT rights

Ironic, yeah, that is the word for it.

Yeah that’s not irony at all. Wait till he finds out he agrees with the North Korean communists on GLBT equality. His poor head will splode.

103 Charles Johnson  Tue, Apr 2, 2013 3:24:28pm

re: #92 ProBosniaLiberal

Meanwhile, because I have FB, I see how people I thought gave a damn and have been telling me how they are constantly busy are out doing stuff.

It’s dawning on me that I am not important to anyone. People want to know why I am angry? This is why. The feeling of knowing no matter how hard I have worked to try and improve, it will never be enough. That, and the fact anger is at least a distraction from falling into a bottomless pit of despair.

I feed the anger on Norway so I won’t end up imploding completely.

Dude, this is not appropriate to post at LGF; we’re not a therapy session, and it sounds like you should be talking person to person with someone about this. If you feel like you need help, you should do something to get that help. Posting comments like that at LGF is not getting help.

I had to suspend your account before for this kind of stuff. Don’t make me do it again.

104 William of Orange  Tue, Apr 2, 2013 3:24:43pm

Hang on…

Most advanced schools been inundated with skepticism and secularism? So in effect is he saying that the least advanced schools teach according to the Gospel and believe in creationism?


I say, there is some truth in there…

105 ProBosniaLiberal  Tue, Apr 2, 2013 3:26:04pm

re: #100 Walking Spanish Down the Hall

And the alternative being what? I tried a number of things to solve the situation. They don’t work. I have nearly no family support, and no social support otherwise.

Bit gunshy about wanting to put myself out there without knowing someone is there to help, you know?

106 Targetpractice  Tue, Apr 2, 2013 3:28:30pm

re: #99 Kragar

Limbaugh freaks out: ‘Vladimir Putin is saying things I agree with’ on LGBT rights

Ironic, yeah, that is the word for it.

Come on Rush, be honest, you love that old-time authoritarianism, so long as its not aimed at you.

107 HappyWarrior  Tue, Apr 2, 2013 3:31:06pm

re: #106 Targetpractice

Come on Rush, be honest, you love that old-time authoritarianism, so long as its not aimed at you.

I sometimes think that their only problem with communist regimes isn’t the authoritarianism on civil liberties but rather the economics. I mean given how many right wingers I see who admire Pinochet, I don’t think I am sounding hyperbolic in saying that.

108 iceweasel  Tue, Apr 2, 2013 3:33:39pm

re: #107 HappyWarrior

I sometimes think that their only problem with communist regimes isn’t the authoritarianism on civil liberties but rather the economics. I mean given how many right wingers I see who admire Pinochet, I don’t think I am sounding hyperbolic in saying that.

I don’t think you’re being hyperbolic at all, and I think many of them admire authoritarianism on civil liberties, even if they claim to deplore it.

109 HappyWarrior  Tue, Apr 2, 2013 3:35:52pm

re: #108 iceweasel

I don’t think you’re being hyperbolic at all, and I think many of them admire authoritarianism on civil liberties, even if they claim to deplore it.

I’ve said it here before but I love how many of them think support for LGBT rights = communism. Regimes like North Korea, the PRC, and during its existence, the USSR were some of the most repressive towards GLBT people. Hell the most anti-communist person I know is also the most pro gay rights person I know.

110 Tigger2005  Tue, Apr 2, 2013 3:44:24pm

“But, if we assume your God’s existence, doesn’t that mean your God created us with these brains and with the ability to learn stuff and think rationally? Doesn’t that suggest your God might WANT us to learn stuff and think rationally, and fulfill our potential?”

“No. Because our brains were messed up in The Fall. Adam and Eve were childlike and humble and trusting. They had everything provided for them and didn’t have to think or any desire to do so. With The Fall, sin entered into us and we took up learning and reasoning because we were arrogant enough to think we could be like God and could figure it all out ourselves and live without God’s help.”

“Wait a minute. Do you think Adam and Eve were created without any sin or flaw? After all, could a perfect God create less than perfect creatures? If Adam and Eve were originally without sin, how could they have committed the ORIGINAL sin—eating from the tree of knowledge of good and evil? That had to require a level of independent thought and rationalization they shouldn’t have been capable of. The Serpent shouldn’t have been able to convince them to eat from the tree…his arguments should have been meaningless to them. So actually, God had to have created humans with the capacity for sin—free will, independent thought. It didn’t come from The Fall—we were, essentially, created already fallen. We had the ability, the outcome was inevitable. For that matter, God had to have created ANGELS with the capacity for sin, since Lucifer sinned and fell. Why exactly did God do this? Why did a perfect God create a universe with a built-in flaw? Your explanation is ‘God works in mysterious ways.’ Mine is, ‘Your God is really f’d up.’”

112 iceweasel  Tue, Apr 2, 2013 3:47:09pm

re: #110 Tigger2005

So actually, God had to have created humans with the capacity for sin. For that matter, he had to have created ANGELS with the capacity for sin, since Lucifer sinned and fell. Why exactly did God do this? Why did a perfect God create a universe with a built-in flaw?

If he’s omniscient, he already knew that it had flaws. And if he’s omnipotent, he could have created us (and the universe) without flaws.

Your explanation is ‘God works in mysterious ways.’ Mine is, ‘Your God is really f’d up.’”

Works for me. :)

113 AlexRogan  Tue, Apr 2, 2013 3:49:10pm

re: #99 Kragar

Limbaugh freaks out: ‘Vladimir Putin is saying things I agree with’ on LGBT rights

Ironic, yeah, that is the word for it.

Well, more than a few RWNJs have traditionally loved them some authoritarian strongmen, haven’t they?

114 Charles Johnson  Tue, Apr 2, 2013 3:53:46pm

Never a dull moment.

115 A Mom Anon  Tue, Apr 2, 2013 3:54:53pm

re: #105 ProBosniaLiberal

If you have insurance, go now and find yourself a therapist who deals with people who have Autism Spectrum Disorders. There are plenty of them out there but you have to be willing and persistent sometimes to find one. Talk therapy makes a big difference. But it’s up to you, you’re an adult and seem to be pretty bright. There are plenty of local autism support groups and various advocacy groups that might help too, but you have to be willing to accept the help.

I’m a mom to a young man with Asperger’s, the social isolation is crippling and not something you need to have continue. There are places to get help but you have to be open and willing to search. Make some calls, meet some people and families dealing with the same issues as you, they are out there. Social skills classes, meetups with others like yourself, helping others on the spectrum through local groups and talk therapy would probably go a long way to break through the isolation you feel. But your mileage may vary….

116 Targetpractice  Tue, Apr 2, 2013 4:02:54pm

re: #113 AlexRogan

Well, more than a few RWNJs have traditionally loved them some authoritarian strongmen, haven’t they?

Hell, I imagine if I described to them Nazi Germany without telling them who I was describing, they’d love it. What’s that, the government promotes marriage, children, and obedience to the nation? Teaches boys about military service, duty, and honor, while teaching girls how to be good wives and mothers? Declares family to be one of the most important things to the nation? And outlaws homosexuality, with those who are found out being jailed and “helped”?

117 theheat  Tue, Apr 2, 2013 4:09:15pm

Africa: famine, starvation, drought, rape, crooked governments, bullshit superstitions, lack of health care, dying babies, AIDS… Yes, what a blessing. // Fuck you, Pat.

118 Cardio (formerly JRCMYP)  Tue, Apr 2, 2013 4:12:17pm

re: #5 darthstar

Pat Robertson is a glorified carnival barker.

FTFY.

119 Stanley Sea  Tue, Apr 2, 2013 4:13:51pm

OT iPad help. Took photo, how do I reduce below 400k?

And

m.youtube.com

120 Stanley Sea  Tue, Apr 2, 2013 4:15:02pm

re: #113 AlexRogan

Well, more than a few RWNJs have traditionally loved them some authoritarian strongmen, haven’t they?

They love ole bare chested Putin more than their own POTUS. It’s been clear.

121 AlexRogan  Tue, Apr 2, 2013 4:23:27pm

re: #120 Stanley Sea

They love ole bare chested Putin more than their own POTUS. It’s been clear.

Thing is, in the mythical Red Dawn scenario (either version), they’d either be among the first ones against the wall (because the occupiers would view them as a threat) or would be among the first to curry favor with and collaborate with the occupiers, IMO.

122 Kragar  Tue, Apr 2, 2013 4:23:37pm

Rep. Amash: ‘More sensible’ to ban abortions after three days and ‘certain’ birth control

A libertarian-leaning Republican congressman from Michigan who has been billed as the “new Ron Paul” says that he would ban “abortion-causing” birth control and a woman’s right to choose abortion more than three days after conception.

In an interview published on Monday, Rep. Justin Amash (R-MI) told Reason‘s Nick Gillespie that he favored as little federal government as possible on issues like same sex marriage.

“I don’t think there should be federal definition of marriage,” Amash explained. “So I think the federal government should just stay out of this. Really, marriage should be a private contract that has nothing to do with government.”

But when it came to abortion, the Michigan Republican said that he wanted to see the government take a major role in forcing women to go through with unwanted pregnancies.

“It’s a tricky question, but where we have it now is not correct,” Amash insisted. “It should be closer to the point of conception, whether it’s instantly or the first three days. I think that’s more sensible. That’s what I think would be correct.”

You sir, are a fucking moron.

123 Stanley Sea  Tue, Apr 2, 2013 4:25:55pm

No one knows how to reduce photo on iPad?

124 Kragar  Tue, Apr 2, 2013 4:26:58pm

re: #123 Stanley Sea

No one knows how to reduce photo on iPad?

Hold it further away?

125 William Barnett-Lewis  Tue, Apr 2, 2013 4:30:29pm

re: #123 Stanley Sea

No one knows how to reduce photo on iPad?

open it then file/save as?

126 Kragar  Tue, Apr 2, 2013 4:31:14pm

Tennessee Republicans threaten to kill GOP voucher bill over fear of funding Muslim schools

Republican lawmakers in Tennessee are threatening to block Republican Gov. Bill Haslam’s school voucher bill over fears that Muslim schools could receive funding.

The Knoxville News Sentinel reported on Monday that Haslam hinted that he would withdraw his bill after objections from Republican lawmakers that it was not broad enough and that the vouchers could be used by Islamic schools.

Over the weekend, state Sen. Jim Tracy (R) had told The Murfreesboro Post that he had “considerable concern” that tax dollars could go to schools that teach principles from the Quran.

127 Romantic Heretic  Tue, Apr 2, 2013 4:31:30pm

re: #98 ProBosniaLiberal

Yes, I do realize I am becoming as angry and bitter as someone several times my age. At least I won’t implode.

Try reciting this mantra. It helps me a lot.

To be angered by evil is to partake of it, stupid. - Phrases of Import and Salvation, Chapter IX, The Book of Universal Truths and Other Humorous Anecdotes

128 Stanley Sea  Tue, Apr 2, 2013 4:33:30pm

re: #124 Kragar

Hold it further away?

re: #125 William Barnett-Lewis

open it then file/save as?

Nah, there is no save as. It’s just in the gallery. Apple shit

129 CuriousLurker  Tue, Apr 2, 2013 4:34:16pm

re: #123 Stanley Sea

No one knows how to reduce photo on iPad?

I have an old (1st gen) iPad, but I think you should be able to email it to yourself at a smaller size, then save the smaller version when you receive it.

130 Charles Johnson  Tue, Apr 2, 2013 4:35:07pm

That New York bribery story is amazing.

npr.org

Makes you really wonder how often they do this kind of stuff and get away with it.

131 NJDhockeyfan  Tue, Apr 2, 2013 4:35:22pm

Report: Federal Prosecutor Withdraws From Aryan Brotherhood Of Texas Case

An assistant U.S. attorney in Houston has withdrawn from a large federal case against alleged members of the Aryan Brotherhood of Texas prison gang, the defense attorney for one of the case’s 34 defendants told The Dallas Morning News on Tuesday.

The defense attorney, Richard O. Ely II, told the Morning News that he received an email Tuesday morning from the prosecutor, Jay Hileman, in which Hileman informed Ely that he was off the case.

Ely, a former prosecutor who described himself as a good friend of Hileman’s, told the Morning News that Hileman is likely concerned about his family after the recent killings of two prosecutors in Kaufman County, Texas.

“He’s obviously made a decision based on something,” Ely said.

Angela Dodge, a spokesperson for the U.S. Attorney’s Office in Houston, did not confirm or deny the Hileman’s withdrawal to the Morning News. TPM’s attempts to reach Dodge were not immediately successful.

132 Romantic Heretic  Tue, Apr 2, 2013 4:36:05pm

re: #107 HappyWarrior

I sometimes think that their only problem with communist regimes isn’t the authoritarianism on civil liberties but rather the economics. I mean given how many right wingers I see who admire Pinochet, I don’t think I am sounding hyperbolic in saying that.

And yet people get pissed at me, and I mean really pissed when I say capitalism is more comfortable with authoritarian political systems than with democracy. Not to say capitalism and democracy can’t have a good working relationship. Just that they’ll never be friends.

That belief cost me a good friendship. The end of which made me begin to realize how ‘conservatives’ are starting to lose it.

133 Stanley Sea  Tue, Apr 2, 2013 4:37:12pm

re: #129 CuriousLurker

I have an old (1st gen) iPad, but I think you should be able to email it to yourself at a smaller size, then save the smaller version when you receive it.

I will try, but the thrill is gone.

Bought a new mop. know what my evening entails.

134 Charles Johnson  Tue, Apr 2, 2013 4:37:37pm

re: #123 Stanley Sea

No one knows how to reduce photo on iPad?

Here’s a $2 app called Reduce that looks like it would do the trick:

itunes.apple.com

135 Targetpractice  Tue, Apr 2, 2013 4:38:30pm

re: #132 Romantic Heretic

And yet people get pissed at me, and I mean really pissed when I say capitalism is more comfortable with authoritarian political systems than with democracy. Not to say capitalism and democracy can’t have a good working relationship. Just that they’ll never be friends.

That belief cost me a goof friendship. The end of which made me begin to realize how ‘conservatives’ are starting to lose it.

Capitalism and democracy sorta fall apart when you remember that everybody is entitled to representation, not just the wealthy and connected.

136 engineer cat  Tue, Apr 2, 2013 4:39:22pm

re: #130 Charles Johnson

That New York bribery story is amazing.

npr.org

Makes you really wonder how often they do this kind of stuff and get away with it.

New York State Sen. Malcolm Smith, a Democrat, was led from his Queens home in handcuffs Tuesday morning after being arrested for allegedly trying to buy his way on to the Republican ticket in this year’s New York City mayoral election.

buy your way on to the republican ticket in an election in queens???

“my good man, i have a bridge to hell that you might be interested in buying”

137 Stanley Sea  Tue, Apr 2, 2013 4:40:32pm

re: #134 Charles Johnson

Thanks

138 kirkspencer  Tue, Apr 2, 2013 4:42:18pm

re: #132 Romantic Heretic

And yet people get pissed at me, and I mean really pissed when I say capitalism is more comfortable with authoritarian political systems than with democracy. Not to say capitalism and democracy can’t have a good working relationship. Just that they’ll never be friends.

That belief cost me a goof friendship. The end of which made me begin to realize how ‘conservatives’ are starting to lose it.

Two points for consideration.

a) capitalism isn’t a political system. It’s an economic system. Major problems happen when people try to make capitalism their political system.

b) There is more than one flavor of capitalism, some of which are much more compatible with democracy than others.

139 AlexRogan  Tue, Apr 2, 2013 4:42:42pm

re: #126 Kragar

Tennessee Republicans threaten to kill GOP voucher bill over fear of funding Muslim schools

*facepalm*

These bigoted throwbacks are who much of the rest of my state voted into office; it doesn’t surprise me that they’re willing to kill school vouchers, simply because people other than “Christians” might wish to take advantage of it.

140 Backwoods_Sleuth  Tue, Apr 2, 2013 4:43:36pm
141 wrenchwench  Tue, Apr 2, 2013 4:45:11pm

re: #126 Kragar

Tennessee Republicans threaten to kill GOP voucher bill over fear of funding Muslim schools

And yet they still try to sell their voucher policies as ‘minority outreach’, including in their rebranding/autopsy document.

142 Single-handed sailor  Tue, Apr 2, 2013 4:46:26pm

re: #140 Backwoods_Sleuth

Wondering now what kind of vacuum God has.
Hoover?
Oreck?
or the tubes kind?

Dyson of course!

143 Targetpractice  Tue, Apr 2, 2013 4:46:27pm

re: #139 AlexRogan

*facepalm*

These bigoted throwbacks are who much of the rest of my state voted into office; it doesn’t surprise me that they’re willing to kill school vouchers, simply because people other than Christians might wish to take advantage of it.

“We totally support religious freedom and school choice!”
“Some Muslim parents might want to send their kids to schools teaching Islamic beliefs using these vouchers.”
“Down with vouchers!”

144 makeitstop  Tue, Apr 2, 2013 4:47:53pm

re: #136 engineer cat

New York State Sen. Malcolm Smith, a Democrat, was led from his Queens home in handcuffs Tuesday morning after being arrested for allegedly trying to buy his way on to the Republican ticket in this year’s New York City mayoral election.

buy your way on to the republican ticket in an election in queens???

“my good man, i have a bridge to hell that you might be interested in buying”

The GOP ticket is less crowded, and with fewer other Democrats with huge war chests.

Bloomberg got on the Republican ticket when he ran for mayor for the same reasons. Not saying he bought his way in, although I guess anything is possible.

145 CuriousLurker  Tue, Apr 2, 2013 4:48:11pm

re: #134 Charles Johnson

Here’s a $2 app called Reduce that looks like it would do the trick:

itunes.apple.com

Pretty nifty. (Didi I just say nifty? O_o) But it won’t work on my ancient iPad, dammit. Maybe I’ll get it for my iPod Touch though…

NO. STOP IT. I do NOT need another app.

146 Stanley Sea  Tue, Apr 2, 2013 4:49:31pm

I’m mopping it. Bbl

147 CriticalDragon1177  Tue, Apr 2, 2013 4:53:33pm

Charles Johnson,

I find it amazing that even Pat Robertson himself didn’t realize how stupid that made him look.

148 AlexRogan  Tue, Apr 2, 2013 4:58:20pm

re: #143 Targetpractice

“We totally support religious freedom and school choice!”
“Some Muslim parents might want to send their kids to schools teaching Islamic beliefs using these vouchers.”
“Down with vouchers!”

Yeah, pretty much.

149 Romantic Heretic  Tue, Apr 2, 2013 5:00:23pm

re: #138 kirkspencer

Two points for consideration.

a) capitalism isn’t a political system. It’s an economic system. Major problems happen when people try to make capitalism their political system.

b) There is more than one flavor of capitalism, some of which are much more compatible with democracy than others.

Agreed on a. When capitalism becomes a political system it reduces the people in it to no more than producing/consuming economic entities. Which isn’t too far from what we are now.

On b. I don’t know enough about economics to say, but I believe that capitalism is just subset of commerce. We’re just careless with our language so we label things that, in my opinion are not capitalism as capitalism. Things like the stock market, arbitrage and other speculative activities aren’t capitalism.

Now it occurs to me I’m being sloppy with my language. ;)

However I believe that any economic system is going to try to short circuit or corrupt any sort of democracy because, simply, democracy is often not good for business.

150 Dancing along the light of day  Tue, Apr 2, 2013 5:03:40pm

re: #133 Stanley Sea

I will try, but the thrill is gone.

Bought a new mop. know what my evening entails.

Mop? My kitchen floor, oooh, pretty please?

151 Interesting Times  Tue, Apr 2, 2013 5:16:31pm

Oh how lovely, moar genocide-denying derp 9_9

152 Stanley Sea  Tue, Apr 2, 2013 5:17:06pm

re: #150 Dancing along the light of day

Mop? My kitchen floor, oooh, pretty please?

Flo, the photo was of the daffodils. Came home to immense beauty on my patio. Cant figure how to downsize……Taking a break from the pre-mop BS. There’s a lot of pre mop BS. Ask why Tuesday night? Cause its not the weekend of sloth.

153 Stanley Sea  Tue, Apr 2, 2013 5:20:03pm

And Charles, Ty for the app rec. but I’ll never use it till I want to again, and I’m cheap!

154 Stanley Sea  Tue, Apr 2, 2013 5:21:51pm

Bbl later, my next break. Watching the finale of the walking dead again, over the dishwasher & washer. Mop forthcoming.

155 Kragar  Tue, Apr 2, 2013 5:33:54pm

Ben Carson: ‘Racist’ white liberals want me on ‘the plantation’

In an interview with arch-conservative radio host Mark Levin, rising African-American conservative avatar Dr. Ben Carson said on Monday that he believes that white liberals are “the most racist people there are,” and that they are critical of him solely because they want to keep him from leaving “the plantation.”

Carson blamed the recent flap over his comments equating same sex marriage with bestiality and child molestation on a full court press by the left to silence him by using his own words against him.

“They want to shut us up completely,” Carson said. “I represent an existential threat to them. They need to shut me up, they need to delegitimize me.”

Being a small minded idiot pretty much deligitimizes him enough already.

156 wrenchwench  Tue, Apr 2, 2013 5:35:46pm

re: #152 Stanley Sea

Ask why Tuesday night? Cause its not the weekend of sloth.

Image: tumblr_ly31hdcI4P1qzfsnio1_500.jpg

Later, lizards.

157 BongCrodny  Tue, Apr 2, 2013 5:36:14pm
“Well, we are so sophisticated, we think we’ve got everything figured out, we know about evolution, we know about Darwin, we know about all these things that says God isn’t real, we know about all this stuff,” Robertson lamented, “in many schools, in the most advanced schools, we have been inundated with skepticism and secularism.”

Shorter Pat Robertson: “Nobody’s buying my shtick any more. Need to expand to places where nobody’s ever heard of me.”

158 kirkspencer  Tue, Apr 2, 2013 5:36:56pm

re: #153 Stanley Sea

And Charles, Ty for the app rec. but I’ll never use it till I want to again, and I’m cheap!

Not an ipad guy but will mention my Win method in case there’s an ipad equivalent.

Open in MSpaint. Change physical size (keeping proportions) which coincidentally reduces memory size. If I’m aiming for memory I trial save and check the result, repeating till I get there.

159 Feline Fearless Leader  Tue, Apr 2, 2013 5:40:02pm

re: #158 kirkspencer

Not an ipad guy but will mention my Win method in case there’s an ipad equivalent.

Open in MSpaint. Change physical size (keeping proportions) which coincidentally reduces memory size. If I’m aiming for memory I trial save and check the result, repeating till I get there.

That’s what I do to stuff downloaded off my iPhone in order to get it to allowable size for posting here.

160 engineer cat  Tue, Apr 2, 2013 5:44:43pm

re: #152 Stanley Sea

Flo, the photo was of the daffodils. Came home to immense beauty on my patio. Cant figure how to downsize……Taking a break from the pre-mop BS. There’s a lot of pre mop BS. Ask why Tuesday night? Cause its not the weekend of sloth.

slothday afternoon comes before moanday mourning?

161 Stanley Sea  Tue, Apr 2, 2013 5:58:11pm

re: #155 Kragar

Ben Carson: ‘Racist’ white liberals want me on ‘the plantation’

Being a small minded idiot pretty much deligitimizes him enough already.

Anytime they drop the word “liberal” in your complaint makes it just that, political. If your care/complaint was about “people” you’d mention “people”

162 Stanley Sea  Tue, Apr 2, 2013 5:59:21pm

re: #158 kirkspencer

No ms paint on the iPad I can find. Muchas gracias.

163 Patricia Kayden  Tue, Apr 2, 2013 6:02:07pm

re: #58 Kragar

Even if God says homosexuality is wrong, since the US is a theocracy, why does that matter? Fischer needs to keep that nonsense to himself (and in his church).

164 chadu  Wed, Apr 3, 2013 7:06:19am

re: #143 Targetpractice

“We totally support religious freedom and school choice!”
“Some Muslim parents might want to send their kids to schools teaching Islamic beliefs using these vouchers.”
“Down with vouchers!”

Remember kids: Half of Americans are of below average intelligence, mathematically. /

Zero empathy, sympathy, or ability to understand other points of view until their noses are rubbed into one forcefully.


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