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Drudge Report Falsely Attributes Quote to President Obama: “I’m a Black Man”

These people are sick in the head
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And now, Drudge Report is getting into the false quotation game.

This morning, President Obama gave the commencement speech at Morehouse College, a historically African-American university; it was an inspiring speech calling on members of the African-American community to be good role models and strive to do what’s right.

So naturally, the right wing media are completely losing their shit again. This is Drudge’s take on it, and notice that he went frame by frame through the video until he found what he obviously thought was the most unflattering image possible:

Here’s a transcript of the prepared speech — the words “I’m a black man,” which Drudge put in quotation marks, do not appear in the speech. The link for Drudge’s headline goes to a Washington Post article, and the words “I’m a black man” do not appear in that article either. Drudge simply made it up.

Pure-D race-baiting dishonesty from the right wing. In other words, business as usual.

UPDATE at 5/19/13 6:10:13 pm

Breitbart hack Matthew Boyle is fake outraged:

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197 comments

1 Targetpractice  Sun, May 19, 2013 2:44:51pm

Ah Drudge Report, a site that looks every bit as “modern” as it did in ‘98. If only it were still as relevant.

2 Tigger2  Sun, May 19, 2013 2:44:53pm

I hope every minority puts the GOP into permanent exile.

3 Iwouldprefernotto  Sun, May 19, 2013 2:49:00pm

This is worse than Watergate.

4 erik_t  Sun, May 19, 2013 2:49:34pm

The halfway-through-tie-straightening chucklegrimace. I know it well.

As if this image is even infinitesimally bothersome to any man who is not already looking to be offended.

5 DelusionDeluge  Sun, May 19, 2013 2:50:07pm

The tone-deafness of the right is breathtaking. Drudge really thinks he’s making some kind of commentary by using that photo. That photo is AWESOME. And I imagine a large majority of the country thinks so too.

6 Tigger2  Sun, May 19, 2013 2:51:42pm

re: #5 DelusionDeluge

The tone-deafness of the right is breathtaking. Drudge really thinks he’s making some kind of commentary by using that photo. That photo is AWESOME. And I imagine a large majority of the country thinks so too.

That Pic shows a good sense of humor to me.

7 erik_t  Sun, May 19, 2013 2:51:57pm

Seriously, this is the oh-damnit-I-fucked-up-my-tie-my-wife-is-going-to-give-me-an-earful-I’d-better-make-fun-of-myself-a-little face. There is no other face anything like it.

8 SanFranciscoZionist  Sun, May 19, 2013 2:51:57pm

re: #3 Iwouldprefernotto

This is worse than Watergate.

Admit it: Nixon never said he was a black man.

9 AntonSirius  Sun, May 19, 2013 2:54:01pm

This is a fuller excerpt from Obama’s Moorhouse… excuse me, Morehouse commencement address as Drudge heard it:

Public enemy servin’ time! They drew the line, y’all
To criticize me for some crime. Nevertheless
They could not understand that I’m a black man
And I could never be a veteran
On the strength, the situation’s unreal
I got a raw deal… so I’m goin’ for the steel

10 Charles Johnson  Sun, May 19, 2013 2:54:33pm

re: #5 DelusionDeluge

The tone-deafness of the right is breathtaking. Drudge really thinks he’s making some kind of commentary by using that photo. That photo is AWESOME. And I imagine a large majority of the country thinks so too.

I agree, sane people will see it that way, but Drudge’s intent was to make him look “uppity.”

11 Charles Johnson  Sun, May 19, 2013 2:56:32pm

The racism is getting so incredibly blatant these days.

12 Dr Lizardo  Sun, May 19, 2013 2:59:33pm

re: #11 Charles Johnson

The racism is getting so incredibly blatant these days.

Personally, I’m just waiting for one of the more prominent right-wingers - Limbaugh, Hannity, Beck, Coulter, Malkin, et al - to just come right out and say, “America’s biggest problem is that we have a ni-CLANG in the White House.”

I figure it’s only a matter of another year, at most.

13 A Mom Anon  Sun, May 19, 2013 3:03:16pm

re: #11 Charles Johnson

I saw this on the local channels this morning, one striking thing to me was that the governor couldn’t be bothered to show up. Or our senators, or any elected Republicans, unless I missed something. I’m fairly certain all the federal level Dems were there and so was the Mayor of Atlanta. I wonder why….could it be that Morehouse being a black college made them a bit, um, uneasy? Nah, couldn’t be that…

14 Targetpractice  Sun, May 19, 2013 3:03:25pm

re: #10 Charles Johnson

I agree, sane people will see it that way, but Drudge’s intent was to make him look “uppity.”

He’s playing to his audience, who these days seem to be the Alex Jones crowd who are in a state of perpetual seething that a black man not only won the presidency, but then won reelection.

15 BigPapa  Sun, May 19, 2013 3:04:51pm

Outrageous. But even if he did say it… so the hell what.

Chumming the sewage canal.

16 Vicious Babushka  Sun, May 19, 2013 3:04:57pm

Fake Quotes: It’s not just for Twitter anymore.

17 Charles Johnson  Sun, May 19, 2013 3:06:32pm

This explains Breitbart hack Matthew Boyle’s tweet:

It’s unreal how hateful and obsessed the right wing is.

18 AntonSirius  Sun, May 19, 2013 3:06:48pm

re: #12 Dr Lizardo

Personally, I’m just waiting for one of the more prominent right-wingers - Limbaugh, Hannity, Beck, Coulter, Malkin, et al - to just come right out and say, “America’s biggest problem is that we have a ni-CLANG in the White House.”

I figure it’s only a matter of another year, at most.

It’ll only happen if we get the miracle GOP-repudiating midterm results that gives the Dems an opportunity to actually do something over the final two years of Obama’s presidency.

At that point they’ll literally have nothing to lose, so they might as well go down with crosses… err, guns blazing.

19 austin_blue  Sun, May 19, 2013 3:08:02pm

Best wishes to Oklahoma, Kansas, and Nebraska Lizards tonight. OK City just got pounded.

20 Vicious Babushka  Sun, May 19, 2013 3:08:05pm
21 stabby  Sun, May 19, 2013 3:08:37pm

re: #16 Vicious Babushka

Fake Quotes: It’s not just for Twitter anymore.

This is a very careful administration, fake is all they can get on it.

Obama must know what he’s playing against, he knows that being squeaky clean is his best defense.

22 stabby  Sun, May 19, 2013 3:10:35pm

re: #18 AntonSirius

It’ll only happen if we get the miracle GOP-repudiating midterm results that gives the Dems an opportunity to actually do something over the final two years of Obama’s presidency.

At that point they’ll literally have nothing to lose, so they might as well go down with crosses… err, guns blazing.

They LOSE and LOSE and LOSE. They took a bad gamble, going for the racist fringe, but they’re too cowardly to even attempt to get the party back under control now. It’s a wild ride toward one party rule, once the Republican party is no longer nationally electable.

23 andres  Sun, May 19, 2013 3:14:09pm

re: #11 Charles Johnson

The racism is getting so incredibly blatant these days.

At this stage, the only way they can up themselves right now is if the Tea Partiers start walking in white sheets.

Unless it’s these chapter.

24 Vicious Babushka  Sun, May 19, 2013 3:14:26pm

LOL

25 Tigger2  Sun, May 19, 2013 3:15:56pm

re: #24 Vicious Babushka

LOL

Get with the program Ryan ya RINO. /

26 stabby  Sun, May 19, 2013 3:16:26pm

re: #24 Vicious Babushka

It turns out that it’s the Republican party that is having a bad week.

27 Targetpractice  Sun, May 19, 2013 3:16:56pm

re: #24 Vicious Babushka

LOL

McConnell was the same way, continuing to drone on for more investigations, but refusing to come out and either accuse the White House of a coverup or even use the “I” word.

28 BigPapa  Sun, May 19, 2013 3:18:23pm

Madness.

29 Dr Lizardo  Sun, May 19, 2013 3:18:35pm

re: #18 AntonSirius

It’ll only happen if we get the miracle GOP-repudiating midterm results that gives the Dems an opportunity to actually do something over the final two years of Obama’s presidency.

At that point they’ll literally have nothing to lose, so they might as well go down with crosses… err, guns blazing.

If that happens, the RW’ers will totally lose it. The screeching hatred will reach a crescendo that makes the crap we’re seeing now look tame in comparison.

30 stabby  Sun, May 19, 2013 3:21:37pm

re: #29 Dr Lizardo

If they have any intelligence at all, they’ll go quiet try to convince the public that they’re not ALL nuts and hope people forget about the last 6 years.

The question is, can they face the fact that they made a bad gamble and that every damn thing they’ve done since Bush has been a mistake.

Hell Iraq and the tax cuts were huge mistakes too.

When was the last time they didn’t suck?

31 andres  Sun, May 19, 2013 3:22:07pm

re: #23 andres

Err… Sorry Charles, I had a snafu. The phone screen is quite small and I messed the clicking. I did not intend to recommend my own comment.

32 Dr Lizardo  Sun, May 19, 2013 3:30:18pm

re: #30 stabby

If they have any intelligence at all, they’ll go quiet try to convince the public that they’re not ALL nuts and hope people forget about the last 6 years.

The question is, can they face the fact that they made a bad gamble and that every damn thing they’ve done since Bush has been a mistake.

Hell Iraq and the tax cuts were huge mistakes too.

When was the last time they didn’t suck?

The GOP’s problem is their base, which has become ever-increasingly insane. Extremists have disproportionate power within the GOP; the party leadership cannot simply jettison them, as much as they may want to, without becoming non-viable as a national political party. The GOP needs the Deep South and the Intermountain West; without those states, they’re done.

The GOP created a political Frankenstein’s Monster that’s now running amok. My guess is that GOP leadership is hoping the base will eventually mellow out, or if nothing else, die off so they can replaced with more sane voters.

33 moderatelyradicalliberal  Sun, May 19, 2013 3:32:36pm

re: #9 AntonSirius

This is a fuller excerpt from Obama’s Moorhouse… excuse me, Morehouse commencement address as Drudge heard it:

LOL Moorhouse!

34 Iwouldprefernotto  Sun, May 19, 2013 3:34:44pm

re: #30 stabby

If they have any intelligence at all, they’ll go quiet try to convince the public that they’re not ALL nuts and hope people forget about the last 6 years.

The question is, can they face the fact that they made a bad gamble and that every damn thing they’ve done since Bush has been a mistake.

Hell Iraq and the tax cuts were huge mistakes too.

When was the last time they didn’t suck?

Sometime in the 1960s

35 Dr Lizardo  Sun, May 19, 2013 3:38:52pm

Speaking of the GOP and all things insane, the FBI has now joined the campaign finance probe into Michelle Bachmann (R-Mars).


The FBI is investigating complaints of alleged campaign finance violations in Rep. Michele Bachmann’s presidential campaign.

The FBI joins the Office of Congressional Ethics, the Federal Elections Commission and an Iowa state Senate ethics committee in probing whether Bachmann’s presidential campaign paid an Iowa state senator from her MichelePAC, a fund that should not have been used for campaign expenses, and whether the state senator stole the email list of an Iowa home-school group from another Bachmann staffer, Barbara Hekki, prior to the Iowa caucuses in January, 2012.

More here: minnpost.com

36 Targetpractice  Sun, May 19, 2013 3:41:01pm

re: #34 Iwouldprefernotto

Sometime in the 1960s

Goldwater chose the wrong side of the Civil Rights movement and sort of set the stage for the shit we’re seeing today, but at the very least he was sane. Back in the day, political differences aside, the parties saw each other as honorable gentlemen (being such is different) and ideology often took a backseat to compromise when it meant getting things done.

Then again, I may just be a bit of an idealist.

37 A Mom Anon  Sun, May 19, 2013 3:42:52pm

re: #32 Dr Lizardo

That’s a process that is going to take a decade at least. Meanwhile there’s so much more damage they are hellbent on doing.

38 sagehen  Sun, May 19, 2013 3:44:23pm

re: #9 AntonSirius

This is a fuller excerpt from Obama’s Moorhouse… excuse me, Morehouse commencement address as Drudge heard it:

It takes a nation of millions to hold him back.

39 AntonSirius  Sun, May 19, 2013 3:45:22pm

re: #33 moderatelyradicalliberal

LOL Moorhouse!

Glad somebody got it…

40 NJDhockeyfan  Sun, May 19, 2013 3:45:35pm

I’ve been working on my bedroom floor, ripping up carpet and sanding the floor all day. Now I’m taking a break for a bite to eat and surfing the cable I find live coverage of tornados in Oklahoma. Unreal.

41 Dr Lizardo  Sun, May 19, 2013 3:47:39pm

re: #37 A Mom Anon

That’s a process that is going to take a decade at least. Meanwhile there’s so much more damage they are hellbent on doing.

I figure it’ll take about 20 years before they return to some level of normalcy. And they can do a hell of a lot of damage in that period of time.

42 moderatelyradicalliberal  Sun, May 19, 2013 3:49:20pm

re: #39 AntonSirius

Glad somebody got it…

I got it immediately. Very clever. ;)

43 NJDhockeyfan  Sun, May 19, 2013 3:49:22pm

Shit, a big cell is headed for Tulsa. My brother lives there.

44 Targetpractice  Sun, May 19, 2013 3:50:32pm

re: #43 NJDhockeyfan

Shit, a big cell is headed for Tulsa. My brother lives there.

Here’s hoping nothing comes of it.

45 NJDhockeyfan  Sun, May 19, 2013 3:52:26pm

re: #44 Targetpractice

Here’s hoping nothing comes of it.

There is already reports of an EF5 tornado. I forgot where they said it was but they said the town has been leveled.

46 sagehen  Sun, May 19, 2013 3:52:29pm

re: #30 stabby

If they have any intelligence at all, they’ll go quiet try to convince the public that they’re not ALL nuts and hope people forget about the last 6 years.

The question is, can they face the fact that they made a bad gamble and that every damn thing they’ve done since Bush has been a mistake.

Hell Iraq and the tax cuts were huge mistakes too.

When was the last time they didn’t suck?

Bush the Elder. Tonedeaf on domestic issues, not much of a campaigner, but on foreign policy he was awesomesauce.

His Iraq war took 6 months, and cost $0.

His greatest achievement is what *didn’t* happen — when the wall came down, he smoothed the reunification of Germany, independence of a dozen former Soviet States, and end of the cold war to look like just another ordinary quiet day.

47 erik_t  Sun, May 19, 2013 3:58:29pm

re: #46 sagehen

His greatest achievement is what *didn’t* happen — when the wall came down, he smoothed the reunification of Germany, independence of a dozen former Soviet States, and end of the cold war to look like just another ordinary quiet day.

I’m not sure how of that was his doing, but that’s a positive statement in and of itself. The independence of (eg) Romania isn’t our story. It’s theirs. We shouldn’t talk about HW Bush heavily in such contexts. It’s probably to his credit that we don’t, either positive or negative.

48 Dr Lizardo  Sun, May 19, 2013 4:01:31pm

re: #46 sagehen

Bush the Elder. Tonedeaf on domestic issues, not much of a campaigner, but on foreign policy he was awesomesauce.

His Iraq war took 6 months, and cost $0.

His greatest achievement is what *didn’t* happen — when the wall came down, he smoothed the reunification of Germany, independence of a dozen former Soviet States, and end of the cold war to look like just another ordinary quiet day.

I gotta give Bush the Elder props on the foreign policy front, especially in regard to the end of the Cold War, the reunification of Germany, Desert Storm. He was a good foreign policy President.

God only knows the end of the Cold War could’ve been a disastrous affair, but with his help on that matter, it wasn’t. Things turned out pretty well, all things considered. Hell, when I was growing up, I never would’ve imagined that I’d be living in a former Eastern Bloc nation - yet here I am, and the transition most of the Eastern Bloc made [with the exception of Yugoslavia] is one of the better achievements of the 20th Century.

49 moderatelyradicalliberal  Sun, May 19, 2013 4:02:05pm

Fear of a Black Planet indeed. I swear this is what they hear anytime Obama says something.

50 efuseakay  Sun, May 19, 2013 4:05:03pm

re: #28 BigPapa

Madness.

SPARTA!

51 A Mom Anon  Sun, May 19, 2013 4:05:38pm

re: #49 moderatelyradicalliberal

Needs more Black. And Blackity Black Blackness.

52 Targetpractice  Sun, May 19, 2013 4:07:34pm

re: #46 sagehen

Bush the Elder. Tonedeaf on domestic issues, not much of a campaigner, but on foreign policy he was awesomesauce.

His Iraq war took 6 months, and cost $0.

His greatest achievement is what *didn’t* happen — when the wall came down, he smoothed the reunification of Germany, independence of a dozen former Soviet States, and end of the cold war to look like just another ordinary quiet day.

Bush the Elder’s greatest crime in the party base’s eyes, the crime for which invoking his name is enough to make a Republican spit and cross themselves, is acknowledging that his boss’ years of military adventurism and unrestrained DoD spending had resulted in the sort of deficits that the GOP wishes they could accuse Obama of. And that he chose to address those deficits with higher taxes instead of believing in the magic of the “free market.”

53 moderatelyradicalliberal  Sun, May 19, 2013 4:07:41pm

re: #51 A Mom Anon

Needs more Black. And Blackity Black Blackness.

Oh, come on now. Nobody has that much.

54 NJDhockeyfan  Sun, May 19, 2013 4:12:59pm

Whoa

55 moderatelyradicalliberal  Sun, May 19, 2013 4:14:01pm

re: #54 NJDhockeyfan

Whoa

Apparently it is a mile wide.

56 Egregious Philbin  Sun, May 19, 2013 4:14:44pm

Drudge…I am a petty man

57 Dr Lizardo  Sun, May 19, 2013 4:16:43pm

re: #54 NJDhockeyfan

Whoa

Holy crap. Is that in OKC?

58 Backwoods_Sleuth  Sun, May 19, 2013 4:17:30pm

re: #54 NJDhockeyfan

yowser….

59 erik_t  Sun, May 19, 2013 4:18:02pm

re: #57 Dr Lizardo

Holy crap. Is that in OKC?

Google Maps indicates that even OKC proper has a bunch of nearly empty land. We must be cautious.

60 NJDhockeyfan  Sun, May 19, 2013 4:18:55pm

re: #57 Dr Lizardo

Holy crap. Is that in OKC?

Yes. Also reports of grapefruit sized hail.

Check this out. I would not want to see this outside my car window.

61 NJDhockeyfan  Sun, May 19, 2013 4:21:38pm

Yikes!

62 Kragar  Sun, May 19, 2013 4:22:21pm

40 years ago, my Mom’s family basically cut all ties with her because she married my Dad when she was expected to stay at home to take care of the relatives and her brothers and sisters. Her parents wrote her out of their wills and her sister and older brother haven’t said a word to her in decades.

They showed up on my Mom’s doorstep today, apparently homeless and living out of a beat up car, saying now that my Dad was dead, they could be a family again and they would be moving in to “take care of her.”

My mom threatened to turn the dog on them and said she had 911 ready on the phone and if she ever sees them again, she would file a restraining order and charge them with trespassing/stalking her.

Fucking hell.

63 Dr Lizardo  Sun, May 19, 2013 4:23:41pm

re: #59 erik_t

Google Maps indicates that even OKC proper has a bunch of nearly empty land. We must be cautious.

Damn.

You can watch livestreaming here from OKC.

news9.com

64 stabby  Sun, May 19, 2013 4:30:24pm

re: #62 Kragar

That’s all impressive in a bad way.

:/ Not that my family is all good.

65 AntonSirius  Sun, May 19, 2013 4:36:22pm

re: #62 Kragar

40 years ago, my Mom’s family basically cut all ties with her because she married my Dad when she was expected to stay at home to take care of the relatives and her brothers and sisters. Her parents wrote her out of their wills and her sister and older brother haven’t said a word to her in decades.

They showed up on my Mom’s doorstep today, apparently homeless and living out of a beat up car, saying now that my Dad was dead, they could be a family again and they would be moving in to “take care of her.”

My mom threatened to turn the dog on them and said she had 911 ready on the phone and if she ever sees them again, she would file a restraining order and charge them with trespassing/stalking her.

Fucking hell.

I’ve got an aunt and uncle who have gone full metal wingnut back in Tennessee, but we’ve managed to stay on (barely) speaking terms. I can’t imagine having things degenerate that badly with my folks. That’s an incredibly awful situation to be stuck in.

66 The Ghost of a Flea  Sun, May 19, 2013 4:36:30pm

I think he’s saying the sheriff president is near.

67 darthstar  Sun, May 19, 2013 4:39:04pm

re: #66 The Ghost of a Flea

I think he’s saying the sheriff president is near.

It’s all they ever say.

68 Kragar  Sun, May 19, 2013 4:39:35pm

re: #65 AntonSirius

I’ve got an aunt and uncle who have gone full metal wingnut back in Tennessee, but we’ve managed to stay on (barely) speaking terms. I can’t imagine having things degenerate that badly with my folks. That’s an incredibly awful situation to be stuck in.

Until my Mom mentioned them showing up, I had literally forgotten they even existed.

69 Vicious Babushka  Sun, May 19, 2013 4:42:13pm
70 AntonSirius  Sun, May 19, 2013 4:44:27pm

re: #68 Kragar

Until my Mom mentioned them showing up, I had literally forgotten they even existed.

She sounds like a strong lady. Although having not seeing them for 40 years, they would almost be strangers at that point.

71 Bubblehead II  Sun, May 19, 2013 4:44:53pm

Evening Lizards. How are you tonight?

72 Vicious Babushka  Sun, May 19, 2013 4:51:09pm
73 NJDhockeyfan  Sun, May 19, 2013 4:54:37pm

Not good.

74 freetoken  Sun, May 19, 2013 4:55:08pm

Drudge has been the leading yellow journalist for quite some time.

That the “news” industry is in full time fabrication mode is just one more evidence that the desperation to keep consumer eyes on their products is driving the industry over the edge.

The big topic among television executives these days is called “ratings erosion”. Across the board, the ability of networks to keep viewers is declining. For the first time the number of cable television subscribers has declined.

Digital on-demand products, courtesy of the world wide internet, has forced producers of viewable products into extreme competition.

And yes, telling lies is just another marketing tool.

75 Single-handed sailor  Sun, May 19, 2013 4:56:22pm

I’ve been watching it on KFOR and ChaserTV. There is now a second tornado in the area.

76 NJDhockeyfan  Sun, May 19, 2013 4:57:49pm
77 Single-handed sailor  Sun, May 19, 2013 4:58:35pm

Third tornado spinning up.

78 NJDhockeyfan  Sun, May 19, 2013 5:00:01pm

Pretty cool 3-D image.

79 Vicious Babushka  Sun, May 19, 2013 5:01:29pm
80 Romantic Heretic  Sun, May 19, 2013 5:02:31pm

re: #62 Kragar

Good for her.

81 Stanghazi  Sun, May 19, 2013 5:12:01pm

Has Hoops been here? Hope he’s ok.

82 freetoken  Sun, May 19, 2013 5:12:20pm

The inability of the “press” to present accurately very complex issues is often lamented here.

So when I see AFP produce yet another wire story, this one with the headline “Study: Climate change slowed over last decade but may speed up again”, I just know that when I read it I’ll turn in my grave (which fortunately I’m not wholly in yet.)

The physical concepts of “temperature”, “warming”, etc. just don’t mean what many people think they do.

83 Varek Raith  Sun, May 19, 2013 5:14:09pm

re: #62 Kragar

Wowzers.

84 freetoken  Sun, May 19, 2013 5:14:21pm

I’ll get back to my favorite topic of the year - the magick of words.

Words have magickal powers. With just the right utterance of the right words - incantations - human decisions can be changed.

Amazing, really. Our species is barely differentiated from the the other large apes, as far as anatomy is concerned. It seems our biggest difference is this: language.

Words have power.

Words are magickal.

85 Varek Raith  Sun, May 19, 2013 5:19:56pm

The Divine Spirit of Language

86 freetoken  Sun, May 19, 2013 5:21:39pm

Here’s the actual Nature Geosciences paper:

Energy budget constraints on climate response

I expect the word choices used (in the summary) to be challenged. It’s behind a paywall.

Note - this is a “correspondence” and not a full paper.

That is a distinction that various talking-head outlets will not make, but it is important. What it means is that the claims were not reviewed as well as a full paper would have been. And it means the authors could get away with sloppier wording. Additionally, it means that Nature hid even the summary behind a paywall (while abstracts of papers are normally open to all, in order to be indexed broadly.)

Anyway, the Inhofe crowd will jump on it without caring about what the authors really meant, just because of the magick wording “slowed” or “lower”.

Remember, words are magickal, and powerful.

Drudge proves that everyday.

87 PhillyPretzel  Sun, May 19, 2013 5:24:02pm

re: #81 Stanghazi

I think I saw his name on line the other day.

88 Varek Raith  Sun, May 19, 2013 5:24:42pm

re: #87 PhillyPretzel

I think I saw his name on line the other day.

IIRC, he lives in OK.

89 freetoken  Sun, May 19, 2013 5:25:29pm

BTW this raises another peeve of mine - journals charging exorbitant fees for reading papers.

All the research in these papers on climate are pretty much government funded, with tax money, at public institutions.

In some other fields - astronomy, genetics, etc., open publication is becoming the standard.

Nature publishing group is against that, of course, since they exist to charge money to publish research.

I’m not against publishers making money, but I am against public research being squirreled away behind private paywalls.

90 PhillyPretzel  Sun, May 19, 2013 5:34:09pm

re: #81 Stanghazi

littlegreenfootballs.com

This the latest post I could find from Hoops. I hope he is okay too.

91 freetoken  Sun, May 19, 2013 5:35:16pm

Note these headlines:

“Dire climate outlook despite warming ‘pause’”

“Climate slowdown means extreme rates of warming ‘not as likely”

“Study: Global warming took decade-long pause, outlook still dire”

No wonder the Inhofe crowd can declare victory.

Besides the correspondence writers not meaning what the deniers think they meant, the assertion being made about “extreme rates” is just more bad wording and misunderstanding.

“Rate” implies change over a period of time. Except in medicine (and they have their own screwy definition of the word.) The misuse of the word “rate”, along with similar poor language creations such as “point in time”, “acceleration” (when velocity is meant), is endemic.

And, when the Trenberth paper came out a few weeks ago about ocean heat uptake one of the possible implications - not tested yet - is that it means the ultimate change per doubling of CO2 in the atmosphere could be greater than previous averaged changed agreed upon by the IPCC authors.

Anyway, it’s a bunch of UK scientists being sloppy in their wording again, this time the leads are from Oxford, and not the East Anglia. Sometimes I think the Brits do these things just so they can generate press in order to keep themselves in the news, as American (and other nations) have stolen the spotlight in these areas with ease.

92 NJDhockeyfan  Sun, May 19, 2013 5:37:52pm

Damn. I hope everyone is ok.

93 freetoken  Sun, May 19, 2013 5:42:23pm

Here’s the new and improved SPC page:

spc.noaa.gov

It looks like the action will move to the upper Mississippi valley over night.

94 freetoken  Sun, May 19, 2013 5:44:19pm

Storms all over the place:

kamala.cod.edu

95 SteveMcGazi  Sun, May 19, 2013 5:46:10pm

Once upon a time, I was travelling with my family on a cross country trip with a trailer and we stayed at a bunch of KOA’s (most awesome trip ever!). Anyway, when we stayed for a night in Des Moines, there was a severe thunderstorm warning, so my dad had us sit in the van, figuring that if a tornado came along we would just drive perpendicular to its path. I don’t know how safe that is, but it seemed like a better idea than sitting it out in the trailer. For the record, it was an awesome thunderstorm with lightning, thunder, hail and lots of wind.

96 PhillyPretzel  Sun, May 19, 2013 5:46:12pm

Image: noaa.gif

It is a big front going through the center of the nation.

97 SteveMcGazi  Sun, May 19, 2013 5:48:31pm

Sad thing is it’s a great show but somebody’s gonna get hurt. I remember sitting through Sandy in a boat on the Delaware River. The center of the storm passed within ten miles of me. When it was over, I figured the whole thing was overrated, until all the news from Jersey and New York came along.

98 Nemesis6  Sun, May 19, 2013 5:52:13pm

I don’t get why why this would matter. Even if he said it, it would be true, so what’s the big deal?

99 freetoken  Sun, May 19, 2013 5:53:10pm

re: #98 Nemesis6

It’s, well, you know… an uppity attitude.

100 PT Barnum  Sun, May 19, 2013 5:53:28pm
I don’t get why why this would matter. Even if he said it, it would be true, so what’s the big deal?

Because they’re all a bunch of bigoted assholes and him saying he’s black means that he was really born in Kenya and Sarah Palin is now President.

101 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Sun, May 19, 2013 5:56:04pm

re: #62 Kragar

40 years ago, my Mom’s family basically cut all ties with her because she married my Dad when she was expected to stay at home to take care of the relatives and her brothers and sisters. Her parents wrote her out of their wills and her sister and older brother haven’t said a word to her in decades.

They showed up on my Mom’s doorstep today, apparently homeless and living out of a beat up car, saying now that my Dad was dead, they could be a family again and they would be moving in to “take care of her.”

My mom threatened to turn the dog on them and said she had 911 ready on the phone and if she ever sees them again, she would file a restraining order and charge them with trespassing/stalking her.

Fucking hell.

Good for her. They likely want a portion of any insurance money.

102 SteveMcGazi  Sun, May 19, 2013 5:57:12pm

A couple of the black guys I work with would take exception to his being a black man. Remember, he had a white mother. I guess it matters somehow. But these same guys rejected a ziplock bag of dirt I brought home from a trip to Egypt. “That’s not Africa!” I just didn’t know what to say.

103 Stanghazi  Sun, May 19, 2013 5:57:49pm

re: #99 freetoken

It’s, well, you know… an uppity attitude.

Next thing you know their ultimate oooga booga fear comes true: he’s Malcolm X reincarnated.

104 SteveMcGazi  Sun, May 19, 2013 5:58:08pm

re: #100 PT Barnum

Because they’re all a bunch of bigoted assholes and him saying he’s black means that he was really born in Kenya and Sarah Palin is now President.

Try to avoid using those words. It gives me the willys.

105 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Sun, May 19, 2013 5:58:43pm

re: #69 Vicious Babushka

Way to go Alouette.

106 Kragar  Sun, May 19, 2013 5:59:19pm

re: #101 Walking Spanish Down the Hall

Good for her. They likely want a portion of any insurance money.

My mom said they looked like derelicts. She said they probably thought they could mooch free room and board from the grieving widow. She said they had 40 years to make their peace with her, and its too late now.

107 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Sun, May 19, 2013 5:59:38pm

re: #72 Vicious Babushka

A tad bit of projection there on his part.

108 Dark_Falcon  Sun, May 19, 2013 6:02:09pm

re: #15 BigPapa

Outrageous. But even if he did say it… so the hell what.

Chumming the sewage canal.

Agreed. It’s a big pot of nothing. The only bright spot is that if the speech was recorded it’ll be clear Obama didn’t say that, so its unlikely to get any TV traction.

109 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Sun, May 19, 2013 6:02:23pm

re: #82 freetoken

The inability of the “press” to present accurately very complex issues is often lamented here.

So when I see AFP produce yet another wire story, this one with the headline “Study: Climate change slowed over last decade but may speed up again”, I just know that when I read it I’ll turn in my grave (which fortunately I’m not wholly in yet.)

The physical concepts of “temperature”, “warming”, etc. just don’t mean what many people think they do.

Eliminate the affects of ENSO and other oscillations and the temp is heading up.

110 AlexRogan  Sun, May 19, 2013 6:03:20pm

re: #106 Kragar

My mom said they looked like derelicts. She said they probably thought they could mooch free room and board from the grieving widow. She said they had 40 years to make their peace with her, and its too late now.

Didn’t take them too long to come around, did it? Your dad hasn’t been gone that long and here they are, offering to “look after” your mom, even though they couldn’t be bothered to come around, call, or write in forty years.

As much as I’d love to try to help someone out who needs it if I can, this case is wayyy different; them just popping around like this reeks of opportunism.

Fuck them.

111 Dark_Falcon  Sun, May 19, 2013 6:04:35pm

re: #110 AlexRogan

Didn’t take them too long to come around, did it? Your dad hasn’t been gone that long and here they are, offering to “look after” your mom, even though they couldn’t be bothered to come around, call, or write in forty years.

As much as I’d love to try to help someone out who needs it if I can, this case is wayyy different.

Fuck them.

Quite Concur. Opportunist losers like that should be given the backhand and nothing more.

112 Romantic Heretic  Sun, May 19, 2013 6:06:27pm

re: #84 freetoken

I’ll get back to my favorite topic of the year - the magick of words.

Words have magickal powers. With just the right utterance of the right words - incantations - human decisions can be changed.

Amazing, really. Our species is barely differentiated from the the other large apes, as far as anatomy is concerned. It seems our biggest difference is this: language.

Words have power.

Words are magickal.

As a writer, I’m well aware of that.

There was an interesting article in Salon about how the GOP has set the debate concerning ‘entitlements’ just by using that word.

113 Romantic Heretic  Sun, May 19, 2013 6:08:31pm

re: #91 freetoken

Note these headlines:

“Dire climate outlook despite warming ‘pause’”

“Climate slowdown means extreme rates of warming ‘not as likely”

“Study: Global warming took decade-long pause, outlook still dire”

Why don’t they make it simple for people to understand? “You don’t shit where you live!”

114 SteveMcGazi  Sun, May 19, 2013 6:10:41pm

re: #113 Romantic Heretic

Why don’t they make it simple for people to understand? “You don’t shit where you live!”

Where are you supposed to shit?

115 Walking Spanish Down the Hall  Sun, May 19, 2013 6:11:18pm

re: #114 SteveMcGazi

Where are you supposed to shit?

Next door.

116 Apeman  Sun, May 19, 2013 6:12:37pm

I’m not sure where Hoops lives, but we’re getting some of the debris from OKC and Shawnee here in south Tulsa. It’s a bad day for a lot of folks here.

117 palomino  Sun, May 19, 2013 6:17:30pm

Read the speech. If anyone else had made it, the RW media that’s currently excoriating it (Drudge, WashTimes, RCP, Weekly Std, etc) would have loved it.

The speech is filled with tough love and warnings that you can’t expect anything to be given to you, you shouldn’t make excuses based on your race, and your hardships pale in comparison to previous generations of blacks. This is almost exactly what Republicans say whenever they bother to discuss race.

118 Dark_Falcon  Sun, May 19, 2013 6:20:34pm

re: #116 Apeman

I’m not sure where Hoops lives, but we’re getting some of the debris from OKC and Shawnee here in south Tulsa. It’s a bad day for a lot of folks here.

He’s in Norman, and I know there’s a warning there.

119 Bubblehead II  Sun, May 19, 2013 6:21:00pm

Night Lizadsrs.

ironfist rule now in efeect.


Sleep welll

120 Apeman  Sun, May 19, 2013 6:22:14pm

re: #118 Dark_Falcon

Ah. There was an incredibly nasty tornado east of Norman, quite a few miles east though, so there’s a good chance he’s OK.

The middle of OK has had its action for today (emphasis on today). Tomorrow is actually expected to be the bad day.

121 Charles Johnson  Sun, May 19, 2013 6:24:34pm

re: #117 palomino

Read the speech. If anyone else had made it, the RW media that’s currently excoriating it (Drudge, WashTimes, RCP, Weekly Std, etc) would have loved it.

The speech is filled with tough love and warnings that you can’t expect anything to be given to you, you shouldn’t make excuses based on your race, and your hardships pale in comparison to previous generations of blacks. This is almost exactly what Republicans say whenever they bother to discuss race.

Absolutely - it’s a great speech in many ways. Inspiring.

In the right wing mind, this translates to “scary uppity black President.”

122 Dark_Falcon  Sun, May 19, 2013 6:24:57pm

re: #120 Apeman

Ah. There was an incredibly nasty tornado east of Norman, quite a few miles east though, so there’s a good chance he’s OK.

The middle of OK has had its action for today (emphasis on today). Tomorrow is actually expected to be the bad day.

Warnings still in effect west of me near De Kalb, IL.

123 Apeman  Sun, May 19, 2013 6:27:25pm

re: #122 Dark_Falcon

Be safe! These storms are particularly nasty, varying in intensity from minute to minute. I have friends from OK in Chicago, so I’m sure they’re keeping an eye on it as well.

124 Vicious Babushka  Sun, May 19, 2013 6:29:29pm
125 Dark_Falcon  Sun, May 19, 2013 6:30:20pm

re: #123 Apeman

Be safe! These storms are particularly nasty, varying in intensity from minute to minute. I have friends from OK in Chicago, so I’m sure they’re keeping an eye on it as well.

No warnings here in Cook County. If any are issued, I’ll take proper action.

126 Kragar  Sun, May 19, 2013 6:31:40pm

Tornadoes in Oklahoma?

Obviously they were arranged by Obama to distract America from Benghazi.
/

127 Dark_Falcon  Sun, May 19, 2013 6:48:39pm

re: #126 Kragar

Tornadoes in Oklahoma?

Obviously they were arranged by Obama to distract America from Benghazi.
/

If he was able to control the weather, then why hasn’t he just called lightning down on every Tea Party rally?

///

128 Vicious Babushka  Sun, May 19, 2013 6:51:07pm

BUT IN TEH 1870’S TEH DEMOGRATZ WAZ TEH RACISTS!!11 HERP DERP HURR HURR!!11!!

129 A Mom Anon  Sun, May 19, 2013 6:52:00pm

re: #92 NJDhockeyfan

One death confirmed at that location so far. It’s bad out there. Hope Hoops and Winston are OK.

130 Apeman  Sun, May 19, 2013 6:54:14pm
131 A Mom Anon  Sun, May 19, 2013 6:54:56pm

re: #122 Dark_Falcon

Stay Safe DF. It looks like things are still kind of far west from you.

132 Kragar  Sun, May 19, 2013 6:56:25pm

re: #127 Dark_Falcon

If he was able to control the weather, then why hasn’t he just called lightning down on every Tea Party rally?

///

The protective hand of God obviously.
///

133 Charles Johnson  Sun, May 19, 2013 7:09:02pm
134 Charles Johnson  Sun, May 19, 2013 7:12:56pm

World Net Daily, Townhall, and CNS are flooding the advertising zone tonight. You may see some pretty offensive anti-Obama ads, because they’ve bought those keywords.

If nothing else, they have money, and lots of it.

135 Dark_Falcon  Sun, May 19, 2013 7:16:15pm

re: #134 Charles Johnson

World Net Daily, Townhall, and CNS are flooding the advertising zone tonight. You may see some pretty offensive anti-Obama ads, because they’ve bought those keywords.

If nothing else, they have money, and lots of it.

Christ. Those asshats never quit, even beyond all sanity.

136 efuseakay  Sun, May 19, 2013 7:18:34pm

re: #125 Dark_Falcon

No warnings here in Cook County. If any are issued, I’ll take proper action.

The southern part if this system in IL seems to be breaking up. Thankfully!

137 Vicious Babushka  Sun, May 19, 2013 7:21:03pm

Why u not retweeting my awesome graphic? I haz a sad.

138 Vicious Babushka  Sun, May 19, 2013 7:22:31pm

Thank you Charles!

139 Dark_Falcon  Sun, May 19, 2013 7:23:26pm

re: #137 Vicious Babushka

Why u not retweeting my awesome graphic? I haz a sad.

Because there’s no need to slam Ronald Reagan, who can’t be blamed for wingnut hate directed at Obama.

140 Kragar  Sun, May 19, 2013 7:28:24pm

Virginia Republican: ‘Black civil rights leaders’ responsible for ‘genocide’

E.W. Jackson, a pastor and Harvard graduate who previous sought Virginia’s senate seat, is the party’s first African-American candidate for statewide office since the 1980s. He’s also part of a trio of fringe conservatives leading the Virginia Republican Party’s statewide ticket, joined by state Attorney General Ken Cuccinelli running for governor and state Sen. Mark Obenshain running for attorney general.

“The Democrat Party has created an unholy alliance between certain so-called civil rights leaders and Planned Parenthood, which has killed unborn black babies by the tens of millions,” he said in a video published to his official YouTube page. “Planned Parenthood has been far more lethal to black lives than the KKK ever was.”

During his last run for public office, Jackson insisted that the so-called 3/5ths clause in the Constitution, which counted slaves as 3/5ths of a man, was “an anti-slavery amendment” designed to reduce the voting power of slave-owning states. That woefully wrong theory was originally floated by Republican conspiracy theorist Glenn Beck and apparently repeated by Jackson without examination.

141 Vicious Babushka  Sun, May 19, 2013 7:29:09pm

re: #139 Dark_Falcon

Because there’s no need to slam Ronald Reagan, who can’t be blamed for wingnut hate directed at Obama.

It is in response to this:

142 Dark_Falcon  Sun, May 19, 2013 7:31:13pm

re: #141 Vicious Babushka

It is in response to this:

The thing is that someone else here already posted a 4-photo graphic showing Reagan having an umbrella held for him. So, the loon’s tweet was already invalidated.

143 Targetpractice  Sun, May 19, 2013 7:32:46pm

re: #140 Kragar

Virginia Republican: ‘Black civil rights leaders’ responsible for ‘genocide’

If Cucci and this nutter win in November, it may be time for me to rethink getting the fuck out of this state.

144 Dark_Falcon  Sun, May 19, 2013 7:36:05pm

re: #143 Targetpractice

If Cucci and this nutter win in November, it may be time for me to rethink getting the fuck out of this state.

Does Virginia have an open primary? If so, it might be time for some Operation: CHAOS-type crossover voting to keep the loon off the general election ballot.

145 Kragar  Sun, May 19, 2013 7:38:52pm

re: #144 Dark_Falcon

Does Virginia have an open primary? If so, it might be time for some Operation: CHAOS-type crossover voting to keep the loon off the general election ballot.

It does, which the GOP have been taking to the courts since 2004 to close.

146 Charles Johnson  Sun, May 19, 2013 7:41:48pm
147 Targetpractice  Sun, May 19, 2013 7:41:51pm

re: #144 Dark_Falcon

Does Virginia have an open primary? If so, it might be time for some Operation: CHAOS-type crossover voting to keep the loon off the general election ballot.

The nomination was announced this weekend, so the cut-off has come and gone. If anything, I’m almost convinced he was pushed via open primary just to further weigh down the ticket.

148 Targetpractice  Sun, May 19, 2013 7:55:35pm

*taps mic* Hello, is this thing on?

149 Political Atheist  Sun, May 19, 2013 7:59:48pm

re: #148 Targetpractice

Huh? *lifts head*

150 Kragar  Sun, May 19, 2013 7:59:59pm

re: #148 Targetpractice

*taps mic* Hello, is this thing on?

Nope.

151 Political Atheist  Sun, May 19, 2013 8:01:43pm

Let’s see if I can liven things up a bit with some C2C

152 Charles Johnson  Sun, May 19, 2013 8:02:41pm

Sane people may get tired, but the crazies never stop.

153 Kragar  Sun, May 19, 2013 8:04:20pm

re: #152 Charles Johnson

Sane people may get tired, but the crazies never stop.

154 Belafon  Sun, May 19, 2013 8:09:31pm

re: #152 Charles Johnson

Which is why we have to keep calling people like Hoft out, even if it is a pain having to discredit the same thing over and over. They will keep throwing shit; if someone doesn’t take the time to clean it up, we’ll just have shit everywhere. (Man, what a shitty analogy.)

155 Targetpractice  Sun, May 19, 2013 8:13:45pm

re: #152 Charles Johnson

Sane people may get tired, but the crazies never stop.

Dobbs and Hoft need to look into medication for their bad memory recall. Obama’s “If” statement was made on the 12th, two days after the press began leaking portions of the IG’s report that had only been made available to Congress, and two days before he stated that he deplored what the IRS had done and three days before the report was made public. It helps to remember that the allegations made in the first place, namely that the IRS had acted in a partisan manner and that the Tea Party had been singled out, were subsequently pulverized when the IG’s report actually became public.

156 Stanghazi  Sun, May 19, 2013 8:14:09pm

Weird Mad Men. That is all.

157 Targetpractice  Sun, May 19, 2013 8:26:40pm

Apparently the wingnuts I’ve been conversing with seem to think that, despite no criminal charges being involved in these “scandals,” they want the investigations to continue because “something” may turn up.

158 Stanghazi  Sun, May 19, 2013 8:34:46pm

re: #141 Vicious Babushka

It is in response to this:

Here’s Reagan for ya

fineartamerica.com

159 jaunte  Sun, May 19, 2013 8:37:57pm
160 Gus  Sun, May 19, 2013 8:38:07pm
161 Gus  Sun, May 19, 2013 8:38:42pm
162 Gus  Sun, May 19, 2013 8:39:24pm
163 Kragar  Sun, May 19, 2013 8:41:46pm

re: #157 Targetpractice

Apparently the wingnuts I’ve been conversing with seem to think that, despite no criminal charges being involved in these “scandals,” they want the investigations to continue because “something” may turn up.

It would be irresponsible not to conduct blind fishing expeditions to further their witch hunts.

164 Feline Fearless Leader  Sun, May 19, 2013 8:44:01pm

Ottawa beats Pittsburgh 2-1 with goal in 2nd OT period.

Everyone have a good and safe night.

165 Gus  Sun, May 19, 2013 8:46:14pm
166 Dark_Falcon  Sun, May 19, 2013 8:46:23pm

re: #164 Feline Fearless Leader

Ottawa beats Pittsburgh 2-1 with goal in 2nd OT period.

Everyone have a good and safe night.

Like the Red Wings, the Senators have decided to make a series of it. We’ll see if either can force the conference champs to six games. One thing is sure, the Red Wings are going down. Go Blackhawks!

167 klys and whatnot  Sun, May 19, 2013 8:47:53pm

I want to smash things. My baby sister was out working (surveying intersections) today down in AZ and some asshole threw a soda cup full of ice out the window of a car and hit her on the arm. Probably done deliberately. Even though someone got the license plate number and called it into the cops, when she called the cops they indicated that if she wants to try to press charges, she’ll have to fly back down to AZ for the trial - she’s left feeling really confused and upset and probably a little brushed off.

I hate humanity today.

168 Gus  Sun, May 19, 2013 8:50:10pm
169 Targetpractice  Sun, May 19, 2013 8:50:23pm

re: #159 jaunte

Indeed, the wingnuts have taken the CIA’s claims of having warned State as gospel, regarding any suggestions that the CIA’s full of shit and is trying to pass off its mistakes as State trying to deflect the blame.

171 Dark_Falcon  Sun, May 19, 2013 8:54:38pm

re: #167 klys

I want to smash things. My baby sister was out working (surveying intersections) today down in AZ and some asshole threw a soda cup full of ice out the window of a car and hit her on the arm. Probably done deliberately. Even though someone got the license plate number and called it into the cops, when she called the cops they indicated that if she wants to try to press charges, she’ll have to fly back down to AZ for the trial - she’s left feeling really confused and upset and probably a little brushed off.

I hate humanity today.

Help her pay for the trip if needed. These sort of “Fire in the hole!”* assholes need to be stepped on.

*: That what they were called in a couple of segments on The O’Reilly Factor, back before I stopped watching FNC entirely.

172 freetoken  Sun, May 19, 2013 8:55:30pm

re: #140 Kragar

Whenever today’s GOP promotes a black man in their ranks there is a very, very high probablility he is an ultra-fundamentalist, creationist, and all round religious loon.

173 Gus  Sun, May 19, 2013 8:56:02pm
174 freetoken  Sun, May 19, 2013 8:57:46pm

In today’s religious right GOP, the only way a descendent of Ham can make up for his ancestors sin is to out Jeeezzzuuu$$$$$$ the next guy.

175 Kragar  Sun, May 19, 2013 9:00:59pm

re: #174 freetoken

In today’s religious right GOP, the only way a descendent of Ham can make up for his ancestors sin is to out Jeeezzzuuu$$$$$$ the next guy.

To say nothing about the progeny of other lunch meats.

176 palomino  Sun, May 19, 2013 9:01:49pm

re: #140 Kragar

Virginia Republican: ‘Black civil rights leaders’ responsible for ‘genocide’

But, unlike the KKK, Planned Parenthood “kills babies” of all races and religions.

What the fuck is this guy talking about?

177 Dark_Falcon  Sun, May 19, 2013 9:04:28pm

re: #176 palomino

But, unlike the KKK, Planned Parenthood “kills babies” of all races and religions.

What the fuck is this guy talking about?

He’s attacking ‘civil rights leaders’ to please wingnuts.

178 Gus  Sun, May 19, 2013 9:07:10pm

re: #174 freetoken

In today’s religious right GOP, the only way a descendent of Ham can make up for his ancestors sin is to out Jeeezzzuuu$$$$$$ the next guy.

Yep, it’s just the GOP.

179 Gus  Sun, May 19, 2013 9:07:46pm
180 freetoken  Sun, May 19, 2013 9:08:45pm

This is America, 2013: Remember that school, whose 4th grade quiz that included creationism got all the buzz a couple of weeks ago? A few days ago I linked to a report that said the brouhaha over the quiz was actually helping the school, bringing them attention and helping them raise money (by playing the victim card.) MSN did a story a couple of days ago which a local Fox affiliate is recycling tonight:

SC Christian school gets boost from controversial ‘science’ quiz

Anyway, a local news outlet pours on with their own story:

Blue Ridge quiz ignites firestorm

[…]

In what board chair Joy Hartsell says shows God is at work in the world, the controversy may be what saves the school from closing.

About six weeks ago, parents were told that the school would close May 31 because the founder and major donor would no longer make up the loss in operating expenses, said Diana Baker, the director.

“We may have found the path to get the money,” Hartsell said Friday.

So far, about $10,000 toward the $200,000 needed to stay open next fall has been received and more checks arrive in the mail every day, Baker said.

She said she received a $3,000 check on Thursday.

In addition, dozens of people have called, emailed or written letters to school officials, critics and supporters alike. One Christian organization in town sent Baker flowers.

[…]

Baker said the school teaches all subjects from a Biblical perspective but does not require that students or parents all believe the same thing.

“You can have space for people to disagree,” she said. “We are teaching kids how to think. Part of what we do in every class is to teach kids to articulate what they believe.”

She said students are taught that evolution is a theory. Secular textbooks are used in the older grades, she said.

“Our students are well versed,” said Hartsell, who has three children in the school. “They know evolution. The big bang theory. They are taught what the world believes. We believe the Bible and we teach from that context.

The school is accredited and the teachers have high academic standards, Baker said. […]

181 freetoken  Sun, May 19, 2013 9:10:11pm

re: #178 Gus

Yep, it’s just the GOP.

AFAIK, the GOP is the only mulit-state political party currently engaging in this. Even the Constitution party could, but they are even more selective and extreme in their candidates.

182 palomino  Sun, May 19, 2013 9:10:39pm

re: #152 Charles Johnson

Sane people may get tired, but the crazies never stop.

Hoft is a true cretin, probably has an extra chromosome.

Dobbs should know better, but he’s got a role to play on TV, so he gives his performance.

The outrage over the word “if” is misplaced. Obama wouldn’t be firing top officials at IRS if he was still in the “if something wrong happened” stage.

183 Gus  Sun, May 19, 2013 9:11:46pm
184 Gus  Sun, May 19, 2013 9:21:28pm

Fuck smart phones.

185 Gus  Sun, May 19, 2013 9:23:05pm
186 Kragar  Sun, May 19, 2013 9:23:38pm

I just learned that I have received the Holy Grail of sci-fi geekdom.

Build an alien race, technologies, ships, and strategies for them to use for use in a project which could mean 3 films featuring them, as well as some webisodes and other fiction.

So no pressure or anything.

187 klys and whatnot  Sun, May 19, 2013 9:26:09pm

re: #171 Dark_Falcon

Help her pay for the trip if needed. These sort of “Fire in the hole!”* assholes need to be stepped on.

*: That what they were called in a couple of segments on The O’Reilly Factor, back before I stopped watching FNC entirely.

I’m willing to and I support her in whatever decision she makes, but tonight I was mostly pushing her to go to urgent care tomorrow if the swelling or pain is still pretty bad.

188 Targetpractice  Sun, May 19, 2013 9:28:32pm

re: #186 Kragar

I just learned that I have received the Holy Grail of sci-fi geekdom.

Build an alien race, technologies, ships, and strategies for them to use for use in a project which could mean 3 films featuring them, as well as some webisodes and other fiction.

So no pressure or anything.

So…uhm…do I have to bow when I address you now?

//

189 Gus  Sun, May 19, 2013 9:30:10pm

Seems like a waste of time as usual. Good night.

190 Kragar  Sun, May 19, 2013 9:31:39pm

re: #188 Targetpractice

So…uhm…do I have to bow when I address you now?

//

It wouldn’t hurt.
/

191 jaunte  Sun, May 19, 2013 9:31:40pm

re: #186 Kragar

I hope you keep us up to date on your progress; it sounds like a great project.

192 Tigger2005  Sun, May 19, 2013 9:32:45pm

re: #180 freetoken

This is America, 2013: Remember that school, whose 4th grade quiz that included creationism got all the buzz a couple of weeks ago? A few days ago I linked to a report that said the brouhaha over the quiz was actually helping the school, bringing them attention and helping them raise money (by playing the victim card.) MSN did a story a couple of days ago which a local Fox affiliate is recycling tonight:

SC Christian school gets boost from controversial ‘science’ quiz

Anyway, a local news outlet pours on with their own story:

Blue Ridge quiz ignites firestorm

The stupid bbbuuuurrrrnnnnnnzzzzzz.

So MUCH overwhelming, disheartening stupidity and ignorance in that story. All delivered with firm conviction of the Righteousness and Truth of their Bronze Age beliefs.

193 jaunte  Sun, May 19, 2013 9:35:39pm

re: #180 freetoken

I wonder if the test designers could name any herbivorous animals with sharp teeth.

194 Kragar  Sun, May 19, 2013 9:36:29pm

re: #191 jaunte

I hope you keep us up to date on your progress; it sounds like a great project.

The first couple webisodes start shooting this summer. They’re casting later this month. I get to have some input there. We’re still working on scripts and the storyline as we develop it, but we want to get the abilities and technologies defined early for continuity and to avoid plotholes.

195 Dark_Falcon  Sun, May 19, 2013 9:45:43pm

Good Night, all.

196 7-y (Expectation of Great Things in Due Course)  Mon, May 20, 2013 7:45:25am

re: #167 klys

I want to smash things. My baby sister was out working (surveying intersections) today down in AZ and some asshole threw a soda cup full of ice out the window of a car and hit her on the arm. Probably done deliberately. Even though someone got the license plate number and called it into the cops, when she called the cops they indicated that if she wants to try to press charges, she’ll have to fly back down to AZ for the trial - she’s left feeling really confused and upset and probably a little brushed off.

I hate humanity today.

My wife was riding home from work last year one afternoon and a group of young men in a jeep threw a container of liquid at her and almost ran her off our dirt road. She called me at once and I was waiting for them when they went by my house 1.5 miles later, with a large cedar club in my hand, in the middle of the road.

They looked scared as hell and went through a fence and a corn field to avoid going by me on the road. They knew exactly what was going on.

197 BroncD  Mon, May 20, 2013 9:27:37am
Sorry to break it to you Mr. President, but your race is IRRELEVANT to all the problems and scandals facing the country right now. Which is why everyone in our comment section is going to make tons of racial (racist) jokes at your expense.

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