What GOP Racism? Illinois GOP Chairman Emails Ugly Racist Attack

“Miss queen is being used like a street walker”
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You know how Republican Party leaders constantly deny that there’s a significant number of racists among them?

Well, uh … what about when the racists are the Republican Party leaders? Erika Harold, GOP Candidate, Targeted in Racially Charged Attack by Jim Allen, Illinois GOP Official.

An Illinois Republican Party chairman apologized Wednesday after unleashing a racially charged attack on a black female congressional candidate.

In an email sent to Doug Ibendahl, a Chicago attorney who runs the independent website Republican News Watch, Montgomery County Republican Party chairman Jim Allen had harsh words for former Miss America and GOP congressional candidate Erika Harold, who announced earlier this month that she would mount a primary challenge against Rep. Rodney Davis (R-Ill.) next year.

“Rodney Davis will win and the love child of the D.N.C. will be back in Shitcago by May of 2014 working for some law firm that needs to meet their quota for minority hires,” Allen, a Davis supporter, wrote in the Tuesday email. “The little queen touts her abstinence and she won the crown because she got bullied in school,,,boohoo..kids are cruel, life sucks and you move on.. Now, miss queen is being used like a street walker and her pimps are the DEMOCRAT PARTY and RINO REPUBLICANS.”

UPDATE at 6/20/13 12:08:16 pm

RNC Chairman Calls for Resignation of Jim Allen - GOP

RNC Chairman Reince Priebus released the following statement in response to comments made by Jim Allen, Chairman of the Montgomery County, Illinois, Republican Party:

“The astonishingly offensive views expressed by Chairman Allen have absolutely no place among the leaders of our party at any level. His behavior is inexcusable and must not be tolerated. He should apologize to Erika Harold and resign immediately.”

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175 comments
1 erik_t  Thu, Jun 20, 2013 12:03:36pm

Damned Chicago-style thug politics!!!

Er, wait a minute…

2 Kragar  Thu, Jun 20, 2013 12:03:54pm

Well, I’d hate to see what he would have called her if she was a Democrat.
/

3 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Thu, Jun 20, 2013 12:04:06pm

The stupidity of this is as offensive as the racism, honestly.

4 Sol Berdinowitz  Thu, Jun 20, 2013 12:04:29pm

He has since apologized for it, for whatever that’s worth

5 Dr. Matt  Thu, Jun 20, 2013 12:04:54pm
Now, miss queen is being used like a street walker and her pimps are the DEMOCRAT PARTY and RINO REPUBLICANS.”

What exactly does the Democrat [sic] Party have to do with her and this campaign? Christ, these racists/RWNJs are dense.

6 HappyWarrior  Thu, Jun 20, 2013 12:04:57pm

And they wonder why they have a problem with women voters. What a cheese dick.

7 Sionainn  Thu, Jun 20, 2013 12:05:29pm

re: #4 Sol Berdinowitz

He has since apologized for it, for whatever that’s worth

It’s worth nothing. Who even thinks like that, let alone type it out or say it out loud?

8 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Thu, Jun 20, 2013 12:05:43pm

re: #5 Dr. Matt

Point of factual accuracy, too: Generally a streetwalker only has one pimp.

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9 Sol Berdinowitz  Thu, Jun 20, 2013 12:06:25pm

re: #7 Sionainn

It’s worth nothing. Who even thinks like that, let alone type it out or say it out loud?

and I am sure he only did so due to pressure from within his party and threats to withdraw support and funding

10 Bulworth  Thu, Jun 20, 2013 12:06:30pm

Stay classy, Repubs

11 wrenchwench  Thu, Jun 20, 2013 12:07:01pm

re: #7 Sionainn

It’s worth nothing. Who even thinks like that, let alone type it out or say it out loud?

Yeah, he has revealed himself. Apology is not enough. If he knows it was wrong to say this, he needs to do whatever it is that will make him stop thinking like this.

12 erik_t  Thu, Jun 20, 2013 12:07:25pm

re: #7 Sionainn

It’s worth nothing. Who even thinks like that, let alone type it out or say it out loud?

A Republican.

13 EPR-radar  Thu, Jun 20, 2013 12:07:34pm

re: #4 Sol Berdinowitz

He has since apologized for it, for whatever that’s worth

It is worth less than nothing. This Jim Allen freak needs to go.

14 Bulworth  Thu, Jun 20, 2013 12:08:21pm
“Rodney Davis will win and the love child of the D.N.C. will be back in Shitcago by May of 2014 working for some law firm that needs to meet their quota for minority hires,”

Patriotism. Loves America. Not Americans. But loves Amercia.

//

15 Charles Johnson  Thu, Jun 20, 2013 12:08:26pm

RNC Chairman Calls for Resignation of Jim Allen - GOP

RNC Chairman Reince Priebus released the following statement in response to comments made by Jim Allen, Chairman of the Montgomery County, Illinois, Republican Party:

“The astonishingly offensive views expressed by Chairman Allen have absolutely no place among the leaders of our party at any level. His behavior is inexcusable and must not be tolerated. He should apologize to Erika Harold and resign immediately.”

16 Dr. Matt  Thu, Jun 20, 2013 12:08:39pm

re: #4 Sol Berdinowitz

He has since apologized for it, for whatever that’s worth

He’s only sorry he was exposed as a racist/conservative.

17 HappyWarrior  Thu, Jun 20, 2013 12:08:43pm

re: #11 wrenchwench

Yeah, he has revealed himself. Apology is not enough. If he knows it was wrong to say this, he needs to do whatever it is that will make him stop thinking like this.

You mean stop being a Republican and conservative?

18 Kragar  Thu, Jun 20, 2013 12:08:44pm

You know, if this keeps up, the GOP rebranding effort might not be able to recover.
/

19 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Thu, Jun 20, 2013 12:08:54pm

re: #15 Charles Johnson

Interestingly decisive action. Let’s see if it goes anywhere.

20 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut  Thu, Jun 20, 2013 12:09:35pm

re: #15 Charles Johnson

Will Preibus also declare Limbaugh persona non grata for saying much more offensive stuff?

Nope.

21 Kragar  Thu, Jun 20, 2013 12:09:47pm

re: #19 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

Interestingly decisive action. Let’s see if it goes anywhere.

I predict Reince is told to stay out of state GOP business.

22 Gus  Thu, Jun 20, 2013 12:10:22pm

re: #15 Charles Johnson

RNC Chairman Calls for Resignation of Jim Allen - GOP

Hey, it appears that Robert Byrd is in your Tweet about this. Unless someone in this story is his doppelganger.

23 HappyWarrior  Thu, Jun 20, 2013 12:10:55pm

re: #20 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

Will Preibus also declare Limbaugh persona non grata for saying much more offensive stuff?

Nope.

Of course not. And he’s got nothing but praise for F.W Jackson here in Virginia who if you see downstairs said that the Great Society was worse for African Americans than slavery. And his oft quoted remarks that Planned Parenthood is as bad if not worse than the KKK.

24 jaunte  Thu, Jun 20, 2013 12:12:01pm

re: #18 Kragar

You know, if this keeps up, the GOP rebranding effort might not be able to recover.
/

I think the Romney bumper stickers used a font style popularized by the Romans; maybe the graphics for the 2016 campaign will move up into the Dark Ages.

25 Charles Johnson  Thu, Jun 20, 2013 12:12:19pm

re: #22 Gus

Hey, it appears that Robert Byrd is in your Tweet about this. Unless someone in this story is his doppelganger.

Yeah, my automatic photo grabber grabbed the wrong photo automatically. Fixed it, but Twitter caches this stuff, so it will take a little while to show up there.

26 darthstar  Thu, Jun 20, 2013 12:12:30pm

Related…sort of.

27 Gus  Thu, Jun 20, 2013 12:13:57pm

re: #25 Charles Johnson

Yeah, my automatic photo grabber grabbed the wrong photo automatically. Fixed it, but Twitter caches this stuff, so it will take a little while to show up there.

Roger.

28 DelusionDeluge  Thu, Jun 20, 2013 12:14:24pm

Somebody also might want to let Reince know that there’s gambling going on at The Bellagio.

29 wrenchwench  Thu, Jun 20, 2013 12:14:45pm

re: #17 HappyWarrior

You mean stop being a Republican and conservative?

That would be the logical conclusion. Not holding my breath, though.

30 HappyWarrior  Thu, Jun 20, 2013 12:15:34pm

re: #26 darthstar

Related…sort of.

Another clown from the 2010 wave that will be collecting unemployment in a couple years.

31 HappyWarrior  Thu, Jun 20, 2013 12:16:13pm

re: #29 wrenchwench

That would be the logical conclusion. Not holding my breath, though.

Nah I am not either. But it really does seem that being a sexist and racist prick is par the course for being a conservative Republican these days.

32 Sol Berdinowitz  Thu, Jun 20, 2013 12:16:19pm

re: #26 darthstar

Maine Governor Denounces Democratic Budget Using Anal Rape Joke

a man with a great future in his party. wonder when they will tap him for the VP slot…

33 Lidane  Thu, Jun 20, 2013 12:16:26pm

Hey Reince! How’s that rebranding workin’ out for ya?

34 leftynyc  Thu, Jun 20, 2013 12:16:52pm

Jury selected in Trayvon Martin case - 6 women, 5 white. Anyone know why it’s only 6?

reuters.com

35 piratedan  Thu, Jun 20, 2013 12:17:01pm

re: #31 HappyWarrior

that’s a feature, not a bug….. ///

36 lawhawk  Thu, Jun 20, 2013 12:17:03pm

re: #19 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

Interestingly decisive action. Let’s see if it goes anywhere.

Calls for Reince Priebus to step down? /

37 HappyWarrior  Thu, Jun 20, 2013 12:17:07pm

re: #32 Sol Berdinowitz

a man with a great future in his party. wonder when they will tap him for the VP slot…

I don’t think he has any sex appeal. If he walked around calling himself a mama grizzly though……..

38 GeneJockey  Thu, Jun 20, 2013 12:17:24pm

re: #26 darthstar

Related…sort of.

“I’m kind of a combination of an ANALYST, and a THERAPIST. So I decided to call myself and Analrapist.” - Dr. Tobias Funke.

39 HappyWarrior  Thu, Jun 20, 2013 12:17:38pm

re: #35 piratedan

that’s a feature, not a bug….. ///

Mmm hmm.

40 HappyWarrior  Thu, Jun 20, 2013 12:18:07pm

re: #38 GeneJockey

“I’m kind of a combination of an ANALYST, and a THERAPIST. So I decided to call myself and Analrapist.” - Dr. Tobias Funke.

“You really should carry around a recorder and listen to the things you say.”
Michael Bluth.

41 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Jun 20, 2013 12:18:20pm

DERP
Bush actually DID all the stuff he’s blamed for.

42 Kragar  Thu, Jun 20, 2013 12:18:25pm

re: #34 leftynyc

Jury selected in Trayvon Martin case - 6 women, 5 white. Anyone know why it’s only 6?

reuters.com

Local statutes I would guess.

43 piratedan  Thu, Jun 20, 2013 12:18:42pm

re: #20 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

Will Preibus also declare Limbaugh persona non grata for saying much more offensive stuff?

Nope.

Question: what’s the difference?

multi-million dollar campaign dollar fundraising generator vs. shit-kicker county chairman

44 Joanne  Thu, Jun 20, 2013 12:18:48pm

re: #34 leftynyc

Jury selected in Trayvon Martin case - 6 women, 5 white. Anyone know why it’s only 6?

reuters.com

Because it is not a capitol case.

45 EPR-radar  Thu, Jun 20, 2013 12:19:34pm

re: #19 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

Interestingly decisive action. Let’s see if it goes anywhere.

It’s probably only decisive because the target was a GOP candidate for office.

46 GeneJockey  Thu, Jun 20, 2013 12:19:49pm

re: #41 Vicious Babushka

DERP
Bush actually DID all the stuff he’s blamed for.

“When will Obama finally take responsibility for all those things that happened before he was inaugurated?”

47 Gus  Thu, Jun 20, 2013 12:20:57pm

By the way. This farm bill was defeated by the Democrats because it contained too many cuts, etc.

clerk.house.gov

48 Sol Berdinowitz  Thu, Jun 20, 2013 12:21:04pm

re: #46 GeneJockey

“When will Obama finally take responsibility for all those things that happened before he was inaugurated?”

It’s just like getting a neurotic girlfriend who blames you for everything all her previous jerky boyfriends did to her…

49 Kragar  Thu, Jun 20, 2013 12:21:06pm

re: #40 HappyWarrior

“You really should carry around a recorder and listen to the things you say.”
Michael Bluth.

“I’m afraid I prematurely shot my wad on what was supposed to be a dry run if you will, so I’m afraid I have something of a mess on my hands.”

50 Gus  Thu, Jun 20, 2013 12:22:17pm

ICYMI

51 Ian G.  Thu, Jun 20, 2013 12:22:38pm

re: #4 Sol Berdinowitz

It ain’t worth a dime.

52 Vicious Babushka  Thu, Jun 20, 2013 12:22:43pm

Not watching the vid, but I assume that Bryan is talking about Exodus Int. going out of business and not that “Christian Discipline” freakshow.

53 GeneJockey  Thu, Jun 20, 2013 12:23:19pm

re: #48 Sol Berdinowitz

It’s just like getting a neurotic girlfriend who blames you for everything all her previous jerky boyfriends did to her…

Can’t the GOP just boil the rabbit already, so we can drown them in the bathtub and then shoot them when they turn out not to be dead?
//

54 HappyWarrior  Thu, Jun 20, 2013 12:23:41pm

re: #52 Vicious Babushka

Not watching the vid, but I assume that Bryan is talking about Exodus Int. going out of business and not that “Christian Discipline” freakshow.

Uh you may want to check Lawrence Vs. Texas there pal. Move back to the Dark Ages please though Bryan. Your family really misses you there and your one son has the Plague and he misses his Daddy.

55 Sol Berdinowitz  Thu, Jun 20, 2013 12:23:51pm

re: #52 Vicious Babushka

There is no right to engage in sexually perverse behavior

There is no BIBLICAL right to it, but we are not a theocracy yet…

56 HappyWarrior  Thu, Jun 20, 2013 12:24:57pm

re: #45 EPR-radar

It’s probably only decisive because the target was a GOP candidate for office.

I hate to sound cynical but this is likely the correct answer. I am glad he condemned it but I think Reince wouldn’t have vocalized an objection if the candidate had been a Democratic opponent rather than a R primary opponent.

57 darthstar  Thu, Jun 20, 2013 12:25:16pm
58 Bulworth  Thu, Jun 20, 2013 12:25:36pm

re: #52 Vicious Babushka

Not watching the vid, but I assume that Bryan is talking about Exodus Int. going out of business and not that “Christian Discipline” freakshow.

Freedom. Liberty. How the fck do they work?

59 Kragar  Thu, Jun 20, 2013 12:26:03pm

re: #50 Gus

ICYMI

Youtube Video

60 Bulworth  Thu, Jun 20, 2013 12:26:17pm

re: #55 Sol Berdinowitz

Creeping Sharia law

61 Sol Berdinowitz  Thu, Jun 20, 2013 12:27:00pm

re: #58 Bulworth

Freedom. Liberty. How the fck do they work?

We have the freedom to obey (Bryan Fischer’s outdated, patriarchal, misogynistic, homophobic view of ) God’s Will

62 The Mountain That Blogs  Thu, Jun 20, 2013 12:27:06pm

re: #49 Kragar

“I’m afraid I prematurely shot my wad on what was supposed to be a dry run if you will, so I’m afraid I have something of a mess on my hands.”

There are so many poorly chosen words in that sentence.

63 b.d.  Thu, Jun 20, 2013 12:27:35pm
Jury selected in Trayvon Martin case - 6 women, 5 white. Anyone know why it’s only 6?

Zimmerman shot the other 6?

64 Kragar  Thu, Jun 20, 2013 12:27:40pm

re: #52 Vicious Babushka

Not watching the vid, but I assume that Bryan is talking about Exodus Int. going out of business and not that “Christian Discipline” freakshow.

Define perverse please Bryan.

65 Bulworth  Thu, Jun 20, 2013 12:27:41pm

re: #52 Vicious Babushka

I forgot that part of the Constitution that says we must do whatever Bryan Fischer says. //

66 Bulworth  Thu, Jun 20, 2013 12:28:18pm

re: #64 Kragar

He knows it when he sees it, and that should be good enough for all of us. //

67 HappyWarrior  Thu, Jun 20, 2013 12:28:27pm

Someoen should just retweet Fischer a gay porn link from Redtube and put FREEDOM in large letters. He just doesn’t seem to get the freedom to fuck is part of freedom as well.

68 darthstar  Thu, Jun 20, 2013 12:28:35pm

re: #33 Lidane

Hey Reince! How’s that rebranding workin’ out for ya?

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69 GeneJockey  Thu, Jun 20, 2013 12:28:41pm

re: #52 Vicious Babushka

I wish there were some consistency of thought on the Right - even within any given wingnut. On the one hand, they claim to embrace the Bill of Rights and the 9th Amendment:

The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people.

On the other, they insist that if a right is not explicitly stated in the Constitution or the Bill of Rights, it doesn’t exist.

70 HappyWarrior  Thu, Jun 20, 2013 12:28:47pm

re: #64 Kragar

Define perverse please Bryan.

Anything that’s not with him.

71 darthstar  Thu, Jun 20, 2013 12:29:49pm

re: #58 Bulworth

72 HappyWarrior  Thu, Jun 20, 2013 12:30:10pm

re: #69 GeneJockey

I wish there were some consistency of thought on the Right - even within any given wingnut. On the one hand, they claim to embrace the Bill of Rights and the 9th Amendment:

On the other, they insist that if a right is not explicitly stated in the Constitution or the Bill of Rights, it doesn’t exist.

The most annoying are the double standards. Like they claim to love the 10th amendment but when a state say passes a ballot option legalizing same sex marriage, they claim that’s tyranny and that we need to ban ssm on a federal level.

73 Kragar  Thu, Jun 20, 2013 12:30:18pm

re: #62 The Mountain That Blogs

There are so many poorly chosen words in that sentence.

“Time for me to take off my receptionist skirt and put on my Barbara Streisand in the Prince Of Tides ass-masking therapist pantsuit.”

74 lawhawk  Thu, Jun 20, 2013 12:31:18pm

re: #69 GeneJockey


Read it all. It’s a link to a Salon piece that dissembles the GOP and right wing talking points about what the Founders would or wouldn’t consider to be essential rights - and how the Bill of Rights was not something that the Federalists considered necessary and that they would create far more limited rights by spelling out what could or couldn’t be done by the government instead of the checks and balances found in the Constitution proper.

75 lawhawk  Thu, Jun 20, 2013 12:33:58pm

re: #66 Bulworth

Kinda like the hypocritical Rev. Flavel in Porky’s 2 - who had no problem watching porno films with his pals, but railed on and on about Shakespeare, etc.

76 HappyWarrior  Thu, Jun 20, 2013 12:34:26pm

re: #74 lawhawk

Read it all. It’s a link to a Salon piece that dissembles the GOP and right wing talking points about what the Founders would or wouldn’t consider to be essential rights - and how the Bill of Rights was not something that the Federalists considered necessary and that they would create far more limited rights by spelling out what could or couldn’t be done by the government instead of the checks and balances found in the Constitution proper.

Damn good article LH even if it is critical of my alma mater’s name sake. And honestly Washington’s freeing of his slaves upon his wife’s death makes me respect him more than I do Jefferson, Henry, and Mason. Of course ultimately I admire those like Adams, Franklin, and the others who never saw a need to own human beings.

77 lawhawk  Thu, Jun 20, 2013 12:34:35pm

re: #64 Kragar

Define perverse please Bryan.

Good Christian sex. As opposed to wild pagan sex. I’ll know it when I see it.

78 freetoken  Thu, Jun 20, 2013 12:34:36pm

Speaking of GOP and racism, here’s an article by Coates that refutes Ron Paul’s idea that Lincoln could have avoided the civil war by buying slaves:

No, Lincoln Could Not Have “Bought The Slaves”

79 Kragar  Thu, Jun 20, 2013 12:34:51pm

re: #75 lawhawk

Kinda like the hypocritical Rev. Flavel in Porky’s 2 - who had no problem watching porno films with his pals, but railed on and on about Shakespeare, etc.

A Porky’s reference?

Well played Sir. Well played.

80 GeneJockey  Thu, Jun 20, 2013 12:36:40pm

re: #74 lawhawk

Read it all. It’s a link to a Salon piece that dissembles the GOP and right wing talking points about what the Founders would or wouldn’t consider to be essential rights - and how the Bill of Rights was not something that the Federalists considered necessary and that they would create far more limited rights by spelling out what could or couldn’t be done by the government instead of the checks and balances found in the Constitution proper.

REVISIONIST HISTORY!!!11!!! TEH FRAMERS WORKED TIRELESSLY TO END SLAVERY 8 DECADES LATER!!!

Yes, absolutely. The Constitution defines the limits of the Government’s authority, not the limits of the rights of the citizenry.

In essence, folks like Fischer are saying the government has a compelling interest in the most private of interactions between citizens.

81 HappyWarrior  Thu, Jun 20, 2013 12:37:03pm

re: #78 freetoken

Speaking of GOP and racism, here’s an article by Coates that refutes Ron Paul’s idea that Lincoln could have avoided the civil war by buying slaves:

No, Lincoln Could Not Have “Bought The Slaves”

This is a good article too. Frankly though, Paul’s argument falls flat on its face when it can be brought to attention that 9/13 CSA states had already
seceded by the time Abraham Lincoln became the 16th president in March 1861. Historical fact has a well known bias against Ron Paul’s moronic ideology.

82 darthstar  Thu, Jun 20, 2013 12:37:17pm

re: #75 lawhawk

Kinda like the hypocritical Rev. Flavel in Porky’s 2 - who had no problem watching porno films with his pals, but railed on and on about Shakespeare, etc.

They don’t make movies like Porky’s anymore. That’s a good thing.

83 Kragar  Thu, Jun 20, 2013 12:38:04pm

Harvey: Gay Marriage Will Lead to a Generation Of ‘Barbarians’

As Harvey explained it, if gay marriage ever becomes accepted at part of the culture norm, it will fundamentally warp the worldview of children who will grow up thinking that it is okay to marry someone of the same sex. And if that ever happens, “it will revolutionize the psychology and spiritual development” of children by removing the fundamental “security level” that all previous generations understood.

“It’s going to mess with their hearts, their minds, their spirits, and their bodies,” Harvey warned. “I think that we are looking toward; I don’t know that this is, maybe it’s too strong a word, but raising barbarians”:

84 Kragar  Thu, Jun 20, 2013 12:38:41pm

re: #82 darthstar

They don’t make movies like Porky’s anymore. That’s a good thing.

So you never saw American Pie?

85 goddamnedfrank  Thu, Jun 20, 2013 12:39:32pm

re: #83 Kragar

Harvey: Gay Marriage Will Lead to a Generation Of ‘Barbarians’

I’m not sure he realizes how awesome that makes gay marriage sound.

86 HappyWarrior  Thu, Jun 20, 2013 12:39:41pm

re: #84 Kragar

So you never saw American Pie?

American Pie got boring after the first one. Just my humble millennial opinion.

87 Sol Berdinowitz  Thu, Jun 20, 2013 12:40:03pm

re: #78 freetoken

Speaking of GOP and racism, here’s an article by Coates that refutes Ron Paul’s idea that Lincoln could have avoided the civil war by buying slaves:

No, Lincoln Could Not Have “Bought The Slaves”

Although for the price tag of the Civil War, they could have afforded to free them all…

Instead we had to wrestle them out of the owners’ hands the hard way…

88 darthstar  Thu, Jun 20, 2013 12:40:33pm

re: #84 Kragar

So you never saw American Pie?

Cheap imitation.

89 Kragar  Thu, Jun 20, 2013 12:40:54pm

re: #86 HappyWarrior

American Pie got boring after the first place. Just my humble millennial opinion.

Oh, I agree. But they still make stupid comedies like that.

90 wrenchwench  Thu, Jun 20, 2013 12:41:47pm

The most annoying thing about having the internet cut out every 45 minutes or so is that I can’t post a comment that says ‘godammed internet just went out again’. So here it is in advance of the next occasion.

91 Kragar  Thu, Jun 20, 2013 12:41:52pm

re: #85 goddamnedfrank

I’m not sure he realizes how awesome that makes gay marriage sound.

Its a she, and who doesn’t like Barbarians?

Well, besides the Romans, I mean.

92 HappyWarrior  Thu, Jun 20, 2013 12:42:01pm

re: #89 Kragar

Oh, I agree. But they still make stupid comedies like that.

Brings in the dough for sure. I’m going to pitch American Retirement Home on my 60th birthday to the studios.

93 GeneJockey  Thu, Jun 20, 2013 12:42:27pm

re: #78 freetoken

Speaking of GOP and racism, here’s an article by Coates that refutes Ron Paul’s idea that Lincoln could have avoided the civil war by buying slaves:

No, Lincoln Could Not Have “Bought The Slaves”

The very idea of compensating slaveowners for no longer being allowed to do one of the most vile things humans do is perverse. Paying people to stop doing something morally reprehensible?

94 HappyWarrior  Thu, Jun 20, 2013 12:43:51pm

You know though on the subject of same sex marriage and kids. If you’re honest with a kid about gay people and don’t make them out to be perverted outsiders, you’d be amazed with how tolerant kids are on the subject. Harvey seems to be projecting her old discomfort with homosexuals and homosexuality on to children.

95 Joanne  Thu, Jun 20, 2013 12:44:37pm

re: #94 HappyWarrior

You know though on the subject of same sex marriage and kids. If you’re honest with a kid about gay people and don’t make them out to be perverted outsiders, you’d be amazed with how tolerant kids are on the subject. Harvey seems to be projecting her old discomfort with homosexuals and homosexuality on to children.

Not to mention how much kids wouldn’t give a shit.

96 Kragar  Thu, Jun 20, 2013 12:44:37pm

I wonder how many God fearing Christian men stay up late at night worried that a band of marauding barbarians will raid their home and carry them off and force them into a gay marriage.

97 HappyWarrior  Thu, Jun 20, 2013 12:44:52pm

re: #93 GeneJockey

The very idea of compensating slaveowners for no longer being allowed to do one of the most vile things humans do is perverse. Paying people to stop doing something morally reprehensible?

Yeah but that’s Ron Paul. He’s you know the same guy that let his protege write nasty racist newsletters in his name and then acted like he had nothing ot do with it. Expecting him to talk reasonably on slavery is asking a lot of his sorry ass.

98 sattv4u2  Thu, Jun 20, 2013 12:44:57pm

re: #90 wrenchwench

The most annoying thing about having the internet cut out every 45 minutes or so is that I can’t post a comment that says ‘godammed internet just went out again’. So here it is in advance of the next occasion.

The gov’t watchers need the time out to read all your stuff!

99 HappyWarrior  Thu, Jun 20, 2013 12:46:18pm

re: #95 Joanne

Not to mention how much kids wouldn’t give a shit.

Seriously. Many kids these days just shrug it off. They’re a lot more mature on the subject then we the first half of the millennials were on the subject.

100 kirkspencer  Thu, Jun 20, 2013 12:46:45pm

re: #93 GeneJockey

The very idea of compensating slaveowners for no longer being allowed to do one of the most vile things humans do is perverse. Paying people to stop doing something morally reprehensible?

It is, I agree, perverse. Yet is it any more perverse than seeing hundreds of thousands dead?

I would happily pay fortunes to see people stop doing the morally reprehensible — provided that meant they would truly stop. It’s possible slavery could have been stopped in such a fashion, with concurrent laws against slavery. But it’s also unlikely.

101 GeneJockey  Thu, Jun 20, 2013 12:46:56pm

re: #97 HappyWarrior

Yeah but that’s Ron Paul. He’s you know the same guy that let his protege write nasty racist newsletters in his name and then acted like he had nothing ot do with it. Expecting him to talk reasonably on slavery is asking a lot of his sorry ass.

His problem is that he’s a Propertarian, not a libertarian. The right of property exceeds all others, so that being denied the ownership of something you never should have owned requires compensation.

102 Gus  Thu, Jun 20, 2013 12:48:30pm
103 HappyWarrior  Thu, Jun 20, 2013 12:48:36pm

re: #101 GeneJockey

His problem is that he’s a Propertarian, not a libertarian. The right of property exceeds all others, so that being denied the ownership of something you never should have owned requires compensation.

Right, I don’t like libertarian ideology much because I find it too absolutionist but I won’t insult libertarians by calling Ron Paul on of them even if many of them love him. And you’re right. He’s a propertarian. He values property above all else over the individual and he’s also an extreme states righter. He’d be also with states sending drug users to life as long as there was no federal interference with it.

104 wrenchwench  Thu, Jun 20, 2013 12:48:39pm

re: #83 Kragar

Harvey: Gay Marriage Will Lead to a Generation Of ‘Barbarians’

Linda Harvey:

She is the wife of Tom Harvey and the mother of two children.

I hope one of her kids gay-marries someone with the surname of ‘Milk’ and chooses to hyphenate.

105 lawhawk  Thu, Jun 20, 2013 12:48:49pm

re: #92 HappyWarrior

Heck, they’re going to be releasing a Hangover movie with the cast replaced by 60-70 somethings. Last Vegas.

And I didn’t think the Hangover movies were particularly funny. I just don’t get Zach Galifianakis’ appeal or humor.

106 Gus  Thu, Jun 20, 2013 12:49:01pm
107 Minor_L  Thu, Jun 20, 2013 12:49:25pm

re: #3 Absalom, Absalom, Obdicut

I can’t believe that a sitting legislator writes like that. He sounds like a 13 year old writing in a junior high slam book. It’s like when Sarah Palin says “lamestream media.” Anti-intellectualism is rampant among these people.

108 EPR-radar  Thu, Jun 20, 2013 12:49:56pm

re: #93 GeneJockey

The very idea of compensating slaveowners for no longer being allowed to do one of the most vile things humans do is perverse. Paying people to stop doing something morally reprehensible?

Not to mention that the idea of paying people to end slavery totally ignores the radicalization in the US South in the decades leading up to the civil war. Dominant elements in antebellum society had convinced themselves that slavery was a positive good.

They would not have sold at any price if it meant ending slavery.

109 Kragar  Thu, Jun 20, 2013 12:50:05pm

re: #105 lawhawk

Heck, they’re going to be releasing a Hangover movie with the cast replaced by 60-70 somethings. Last Vegas.

And I didn’t think the Hangover movies were particularly funny. I just don’t get Zach Galifianakis’ appeal or humor.

Its been a long, long time since I’ve seen a funny comedy.

110 HappyWarrior  Thu, Jun 20, 2013 12:51:18pm

re: #105 lawhawk

Heck, they’re going to be releasing a Hangover movie with the cast replaced by 60-70 somethings. Last Vegas.

And I didn’t think the Hangover movies were particularly funny. I just don’t get Zach Galifianakis’ appeal or humor.

It’s a good cast at least. As for the Hangover series. I liked the first one just great but they didn’t need one let alone two sequels. Honestly my favorite comedies are ones that you don’t a need sequel for or rather a sequel wasn’t forced. I’ve really gotten into the dark comedies of the McDonagh brothers: In Bruges, The Guard, Seven Psychopaths. All ones that you can just end on one note. The Big Lebowski works that way too.

111 GeneJockey  Thu, Jun 20, 2013 12:51:32pm

re: #100 kirkspencer

It is, I agree, perverse. Yet is it any more perverse than seeing hundreds of thousands dead?

I would happily pay fortunes to see people stop doing the morally reprehensible — provided that meant they would truly stop. It’s possible slavery could have been stopped in such a fashion, with concurrent laws against slavery. But it’s also unlikely.

That’s the thing, though - it never was a possibility. The economy of the South was built on free labor. Even after slavery was abolished, the quasi-slavery of sharecropping combined with segregation and oppression took its place. The South would not have accepted it, and would not have stopped.

Honestly, as I get older, I think more and more that the South got off far too easy.

112 Charles Johnson  Thu, Jun 20, 2013 12:52:09pm

Beyond parody.

113 sattv4u2  Thu, Jun 20, 2013 12:52:16pm

re: #105 lawhawk

I just don’t get Zach Galifianakis’ appeal or humor.

Same here

The sad sack, oh whoa is me character was much better played in the silent era by the Buster Keatons and Harold Lloyds

114 HappyWarrior  Thu, Jun 20, 2013 12:54:08pm

re: #113 sattv4u2

I just don’t get Zach Galifianakis’ appeal or humor.

Same here

The sad sack, oh whoa is me character was much better played in the silent era by the Buster Keatons and Harold Lloyds

That’s not really his character. He’s more like “I’m a 30 something year old man and I act like a 12 year old boy.”

115 freetoken  Thu, Jun 20, 2013 12:54:30pm

Reading blog entries and even many “letters to the editor” in local news outlets the phrase that keeps coming to mind is Practiced Polemics.

All the heated screeching that the professional polemicists have perfected now is being mimicked quite well at the local level, where not only entire phrases are lifted but entire arguments are in most part copied, complete with vile and bile, and put under the pen name of whoever is going through the motions to do the posting.

Language as a human creation fundamentally works that way - we copy what we hear and see. So it is no surprise that we humans after a good 6 or 7 thousand run of writing use this tool to further our emotional outbursts.

I could use any of a thousand daily “letters” available online, but here is a classic case:

Time for all good men to help their country

So, today I was reading how, supposedly, the NSA spying program foiled a plan to bomb the New York subway system and a few thoughts came to mind.

First, knowing what a glory grabber Mr. “I Killed Bin Laden” is, if this were true, don’t you think he would have been crowing about it long ago? Second, I thought why is this Earth- shattering information conveniently leaking out now in the middle of this huge scandal? […]

The systematic dismantling of our country’s Bill of Rights and the trampling of as well as flat- out disregard of the constitutionally-guaranteed 4th Amendment right against unreasonable search and seizure by this administration is doing to this country what terrorist groups have, up until this point, been unable to do.

This administration, the “most transparent in history,” is, whether through malice or ignorance, covertly destroying from within the very fabric of our Constitution; [..]

Sadly, many Americans live their daily lives in a coma of ignorance — trusting every word that the mainstream media force feeds them as they suckle at the teat of welfare programs and other free government subsidies and all the while turn a blind eye to the fact that their freedoms are slowly being stolen.

[…]

But how can the government simply print money you might ask? Isn’t a dollar worth one dollar’s worth of precious metal or something? Nope. One dollar is worth exactly its weight in paper. Richard Nixon ended the convertibility of the dollar to gold on Aug. 15, 1971. Some even believe that the gold reserves that were once in Fort Knox aren’t even there anymore.

And where is God? While our Constitution guarantees freedom of religion, that has somehow been perverted and twisted into meaning that no one can express their religious views. In short, the American people have kicked God to the curb. […]

John Snyder

Hubert

It’s just the usual list of wingnut talking points. Yet the author, John Snyder, uses the eloquence available to those who have studied English and its grammar to put the polish on the same old list of complaints. Snyder uses phrases he has seen and heard before, but does not create a logical, coherent argument. He’s practiced polemics. What he has not done is logical, analytical thinking. Induction nor deduction are part of the practice here, but rather the using of emotionally ladened words and phrases.

Yet no doubt Mr. Snyder would considered himself well educated.

Perhaps because he gets all the confirmation he needs by watching and reading those from whom he is copying - NRO, Fox News, Limbaugh, and the like?

How many “Mr. Snyder”s are there out there?

116 Kragar  Thu, Jun 20, 2013 12:56:04pm

re: #110 HappyWarrior

It’s a good cast at least. As for the Hangover series. I liked the first one just great but they didn’t need one let alone two sequels. Honestly my favorite comedies are ones that you don’t a need sequel for. I’ve really gotten into the dark comedies of the McDonagh brothers: In Bruges, The Guard, Seven Psychopaths. All ones that you can just end on one note. The Big Lebowski works that way too.

Does Snatch count as a comedy? I laughed my ass off watching that.

117 sattv4u2  Thu, Jun 20, 2013 12:56:21pm

re: #114 HappyWarrior

That’s not really his character. He’s more like “I’m a 30 something year old man and I act like a 12 year old boy.”

Saw about half an hour of the Hangover

He looked/ seemed sad sacky to me

118 HappyWarrior  Thu, Jun 20, 2013 12:56:44pm

re: #116 Kragar

Does Snatch count as a comedy? I laughed my ass off watching that.

i am not sure. I suppose part comedy, part heist film?

119 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi  Thu, Jun 20, 2013 12:57:47pm

re: #107 Minor_L

I can’t believe that a sitting legislator writes like that. He sounds like a 13 year old writing in a junior high slam book. It’s like when Sarah Palin says “lamestream media.” Anti-intellectualism is rampant among these people.

He’s a county party chairman. I don’t think he’s a sitting legislator.

120 Dr. Matt  Thu, Jun 20, 2013 12:58:10pm

I have a question for some tech knowledgeable lizards out there. I’m look for a high-capacity flash memory card (> 32 GB) and there are many different variations: SDHC, SDXC, SDHC/SDXC, SDSDX, SDCFX, etc., etc.,

What do these designations mean?

121 HappyWarrior  Thu, Jun 20, 2013 12:58:20pm

re: #117 sattv4u2

Saw about half an hour of the Hangover

He looked/ seemed sad sacky to me

Sure but his character archetype really isn’t “Woe is me.” The character of Alan is more of an immature manchild than a woe is me type. Just my impression from seeing the first two Hangovers. He’s a loser but he doesn’t know he’s a loser. When I think of a woe is me type, I think of someone who knows they’re a loser and wants everyone else to know that they know they’re a loser.

122 NJDhockeyfan  Thu, Jun 20, 2013 12:58:38pm

Uh oh

123 Kragar  Thu, Jun 20, 2013 12:58:40pm

re: #118 HappyWarrior

i am not sure. I suppose part comedy, part heist film?

“For ever action, there is a reaction. And a Pikey reaction… is quite a fucking thing.”

124 freetoken  Thu, Jun 20, 2013 12:58:48pm

Speaking of GOP and racism:

E.W. Jackson Says the Government Is Worse for Black People Than Slavery

Virginia Republican lieutenant governor candidate E. W. Jackson said that the American government has been worse for “the black family” than slavery was during an event on Wednesday to celebrate Juneteenth, the holiday marking the end of slavery. “In 1960 most black children were raised in two parent monogamous families,” Jackson said, according to the Virginia Daily Press. “By now, by this time, we only have 20 percent of black children being raised in two-parent monogamous families with a married man and woman raising those children. It wasn’t slavery that did that. It was government that did that trying to solve problems that only God can solve, and that only we as human beings can solve.”

While many of Jackson’s controversial statements are unique to him — that yoga can leave you vulnerable to satanic possession, that Planned Parenthood is like the KKK, that evolution isn’t real because monkeys can’t talk — this idea is not. Republicans have long been attacked for using welfare as a code word to rally racist whites — as recently as the 2012 election. You can’t say the n-word anymore, GOP strategist Lee Atwater famously explained, but you can say you want to cut welfare, and racist whites will know what you’re talking about. Think of this slavery-wasn’t-all-bad theory as having evolved to counter that: It’s not cutting welfare that’s racist — welfare itself is racist!

In 2011, the Iowa evangelical group The Family Leader had Republican presidential candidates sign a pledge that said black families were better off under slavery. […]

125 HappyWarrior  Thu, Jun 20, 2013 12:59:18pm

re: #122 NJDhockeyfan

Uh oh

Yikes. That’s where I grew up but FC is a hugeass county.

126 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Jun 20, 2013 12:59:27pm

re: #115 freetoken

And now, the BBC 4 News for Parrots…

127 GeneJockey  Thu, Jun 20, 2013 12:59:45pm

re: #114 HappyWarrior

That’s not really his character. He’s more like “I’m a 30 something year old man and I act like a 12 year old boy.”

I really don’t get movies where the main character(s) get into endless shit because they insist on standing by their idiot friends, who keep getting them into deeper and deeper shit.

Even SHAUN of the Dead, and I LOVE SHAUN of the Dead!

128 Dr Lizardo  Thu, Jun 20, 2013 12:59:57pm

re: #96 Kragar

I wonder how many God fearing Christian men stay up late at night worried that a band of marauding barbarians will raid their home and carry them off and force them into a gay marriage.

Bryan Fischer does.

129 HappyWarrior  Thu, Jun 20, 2013 1:00:08pm

re: #124 freetoken

Speaking of GOP and racism:

E.W. Jackson Says the Government Is Worse for Black People Than Slavery

Well, he’s sort of right. The American government is what allowed slavery to continue to exist some 75 years after the Constitution’s ratification but I don’t think that is what he means.

130 darthstar  Thu, Jun 20, 2013 1:00:16pm

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131 Gus  Thu, Jun 20, 2013 1:01:48pm

Drones.

132 Gus  Thu, Jun 20, 2013 1:02:31pm

re: #112 Charles Johnson

Beyond parody.

Derp. The House GOP wanted this bill to pass.

clerk.house.gov

133 Minor_L  Thu, Jun 20, 2013 1:02:31pm

re: #122 NJDhockeyfan

This made me immediately think of the anti-vaccination crowd, even though I have no proof it has anything to do with that.

134 freetoken  Thu, Jun 20, 2013 1:03:04pm

I see the guy as resigned.

135 sattv4u2  Thu, Jun 20, 2013 1:03:06pm

re: #131 Gus

Drones.

Yeah
Some people do prattle on and on and on!!
/

136 freetoken  Thu, Jun 20, 2013 1:03:22pm

Who knew the Rinsed One was so powerful?

137 HappyWarrior  Thu, Jun 20, 2013 1:03:38pm

re: #127 GeneJockey

I really don’t get movies where the main character(s) get into endless shit because they insist on standing by their idiot friends, who keep getting them into deeper and deeper shit.

Even Sean of the Dead, and I LOVE Sean of the Dead!

I don’t know. The first Hangover is great IMO and I liked Horrible Bosses too. The worst comedies though today are the ones that rely on pop culture references rather than actual plot developments. That’s why I love the McDonagh brothers movies. Martin’s actually a playwright by training so he’s got great experience in using narrative. They usually also have some good music too. Not often you get a film that has a soundtrack that features a neat modern band like Deer Tick and some good alt country like Van Zandt.

138 Kragar  Thu, Jun 20, 2013 1:03:51pm

Feds Probe Firm That Did Snowden Background Check

Federal officials are conducting a criminal investigation of the private company that performed a 2011 security background check on Edward Snowden, the former National Security Agency contractor who leaked some of the nation’s most closely held secrets to the media, a U.S. senator said Thursday.

Sen. Claire McCaskill (D., Mo.) said that USIS, the largest contractor that conducts security background checks for the federal government, is being scrutinized over allegations of a “systematic failure to conduct investigations.”

The probe isn’t directly connected to Mr. Snowden’s leaks, although Ms. McCaskill said USIS was responsible for his 2011 background investigation. Ms. McCaskill’s comments came at the start of a Senate hearing to examine the government’s security background check in the wake of Mr. Snowden’s leaks.

139 Charles Johnson  Thu, Jun 20, 2013 1:04:20pm

re: #132 Gus

Derp. The House GOP wanted this bill to pass.

clerk.house.gov

Conservatives are excellent at fooling themselves into believing failures are wins.

140 Gus  Thu, Jun 20, 2013 1:04:49pm

re: #135 sattv4u2

Yeah
Some people do prattle on and on and on!!
/

Drones.Drones.Drones.Drones.

141 HappyWarrior  Thu, Jun 20, 2013 1:05:17pm

re: #139 Charles Johnson

Conservatives are excellent at fooling themselves into believing failures are wins.

We didn’t really lose the 2012 election, Obama got less votes than he did before!

142 lawhawk  Thu, Jun 20, 2013 1:05:19pm

re: #127 GeneJockey

-1 for getting the name wrong.

repeat after me:

Shaun of the Dead.

Now write out 100x on the blackboard. /

143 Dr Lizardo  Thu, Jun 20, 2013 1:05:25pm

re: #139 Charles Johnson

Conservatives are excellent at fooling themselves into believing failures are wins.

We lost. HUZZAH!!

144 sattv4u2  Thu, Jun 20, 2013 1:06:08pm

re: #140 Gus

Drones.Drones.Drones.Drones.

I’m getting VERY sleepy !!!

146 Kragar  Thu, Jun 20, 2013 1:06:36pm

re: #127 GeneJockey

I really don’t get movies where the main character(s) get into endless shit because they insist on standing by their idiot friends, who keep getting them into deeper and deeper shit.

Even Sean of the Dead, and I LOVE Sean of the Dead!

I really can’t stand “comedies” where the whole plot is the main character just being uncomfortable the whole time. Meet the Fockers comes to mind as an example, but so many movies seem to revolve around this. I don’t see the humor there.

147 EPR-radar  Thu, Jun 20, 2013 1:06:41pm

re: #111 GeneJockey

That’s the thing, though - it never was a possibility. The economy of the South was built on free labor. Even after slavery was abolished, the quasi-slavery of sharecropping combined with segregation and oppression took its place. The South would not have accepted it, and would not have stopped.

Honestly, as I get older, I think more and more that the South got off far too easy.

The options available at the end of the civil war weren’t good. The military occupation of the South was known by all to be essentially temporary, so it had no ability to make lasting change. The North was also compromised by its own issues of race and class.

So I think it was pretty much inevitable that the Confederacy would get off lightly.

However, I think the verdict of history can remain very harsh —- i.e., IMO the Confederacy/Slavery is the most concentrated locus of pure evil in US history.

That is the turd the present day neo-Confederates in the GOP are trying to polish. They really are trying to brand themselves as the party of Evil.

148 Gus  Thu, Jun 20, 2013 1:06:59pm

re: #144 sattv4u2

I’m getting VERY sleepy !!!

I’m already there.

149 GeneJockey  Thu, Jun 20, 2013 1:07:10pm

re: #142 lawhawk

-1 for getting the name wrong.

repeat after me:

Shaun of the Dead.

Now write out 100x on the blackboard. /

Nobody’s perfect. Anyone could flush his socks down the toilet.

150 Sol Berdinowitz  Thu, Jun 20, 2013 1:07:50pm

re: #124 freetoken

Speaking of GOP and racism:

E.W. Jackson Says the Government Is Worse for Black People Than Slavery

They cannot get away from that “Democrats wanna keep blacks down on the plantation” meme.

Nobody outside the party buys it, I see it as part of an internal party dispute: to what extent should they even try to reach out to blacks and minorities.

The argument seems to be that black people just got no sense of acting in their own self-interest, (I remember hearing Pyjamas Media proclaim that “blacks never had it as good as they did under Ronald Reagan”) and therefore will be ever beholden to the Pary of Free Stuff.

The only way to move the GOP forward, it seems, is to further “empower” its base by excluding as many potential Democratic voters from the election process by voter ID legislation or redistricting.

151 sattv4u2  Thu, Jun 20, 2013 1:08:17pm

re: #148 Gus

I’m already there.

stop hoggin’ the pillows

152 Sol Berdinowitz  Thu, Jun 20, 2013 1:08:49pm

re: #138 Kragar

Feds Probe Firm That Did Snowden Background Check

The government outsources background checks? That is beyond perverse.

153 GeneJockey  Thu, Jun 20, 2013 1:09:04pm

re: #147 EPR-radar

The options available at the end of the civil war weren’t good. The military occupation of the South was known by all to be essentially temporary, so it had no ability to make lasting change. The North was also compromised by its own issues of race and class.

So I think it was pretty much inevitable that the Confederacy would get off lightly.

However, I think the verdict of history can remain very harsh —- i.e., IMO the Confederacy/Slavery is the most concentrated locus of pure evil in US history.

That is the turd the present day neo-Confederates in the GOP are trying to polish. They really are trying to brand themselves as the party of Evil.

This, although the genocide of the Native Americans gives it a good run for its money.

154 dragonath  Thu, Jun 20, 2013 1:09:22pm

re: #115 freetoken

And the same thing is repeated in every single newspaper and forum in the entire country. I for one appreciate the Juxtaposition of gold bug fantasies with “God” in the next paragraph.

And what, exactly, makes these precious metals precious? Thousands of like minded Mr. Snyders coveting and fawning over the magic rock? You might as well base the world economy on Iridium.

155 Kragar  Thu, Jun 20, 2013 1:09:31pm

re: #152 Sol Berdinowitz

The government outsources background checks? That is beyond perverse.

Been that way for years.

156 engineer cat  Thu, Jun 20, 2013 1:10:04pm

re: #30 HappyWarrior

Another clown from the 2010 wave that will be collecting unemployment in a couple years.

clown wave!

157 freetoken  Thu, Jun 20, 2013 1:12:52pm

re: #154 dragonath

Well, you know, “Gold” is just an anagram for l’God, a well used term in a tiny village in the Lorraine were they use the French article with the English derivative of the German noun.

158 Kragar  Thu, Jun 20, 2013 1:13:27pm

Budget Cuts Hamper Background Investigations For Pentagon Contractors

Due to a shortfall in funding, the Pentagon has been forced to forgo its usual investigations to update security clearances for contractors who work on some of the most highly classified projects in the country.

As a result of sequestration, the Pentagon is implementing across-the-board, untargeted cuts of approximately $41 billion in 2013. One of the programs hit by these blunt reductions is the Defense Security Service (DSS), the section of the Defense Department (DOD) tasked with issuing security clearances to the thousands of civilian staffers and contractors who work within the Pentagon.

159 lawhawk  Thu, Jun 20, 2013 1:13:38pm


That all follows fallout from Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke hinting yesterday that the Federal Reserve may scale back its asset purchases later this year, which sent foreign markets into a tailspin, which fed into the drop here in the US.

Oh, and additional concern that there’s a slowdown in the Chinese economy that appears to be more serious.

160 engineer cat  Thu, Jun 20, 2013 1:13:53pm

re: #154 dragonath

And the same thing is repeated in every single newspaper and forum in the entire country. I for one appreciate the Juxtaposition of gold bug fantasies with “God” in the next paragraph.

And what, exactly, makes these precious metals precious? Thousands of like minded Mr. Snyders coveting and fawning over the magic rock? You might as well base the world economy on Iridium.

i’m investing in latinum

161 Kragar  Thu, Jun 20, 2013 1:16:03pm

re: #154 dragonath

And the same thing is repeated in every single newspaper and forum in the entire country. I for one appreciate the Juxtaposition of gold bug fantasies with “God” in the next paragraph.

And what, exactly, makes these precious metals precious? Thousands of like minded Mr. Snyders coveting and fawning over the magic rock? You might as well base the world economy on Iridium.

Merchants invest in metals.

Survivors invest in equipment.

162 GeneJockey  Thu, Jun 20, 2013 1:16:04pm

re: #159 lawhawk

That all follows fallout from Federal Reserve Chairman Ben Bernanke hinting yesterday that the Federal Reserve may scale back its asset purchases later this year, which sent foreign markets into a tailspin, which fed into the drop here in the US.

Oh, and additional concern that there’s a slowdown in the Chinese economy that appears to be more serious.

Great. Just fucking great.

163 Gus  Thu, Jun 20, 2013 1:16:50pm
164 GeneJockey  Thu, Jun 20, 2013 1:18:11pm

re: #154 dragonath

And the same thing is repeated in every single newspaper and forum in the entire country. I for one appreciate the Juxtaposition of gold bug fantasies with “God” in the next paragraph.

And what, exactly, makes these precious metals precious? Thousands of like minded Mr. Snyders coveting and fawning over the magic rock? You might as well base the world economy on Iridium.

Right. Goldbugs talk about fiat currencies only having value because they all agree they have value, but exactly the same is true of gold.

165 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Jun 20, 2013 1:18:30pm

usnews.nbcnews.com

Hmm, that *would* be a bit of a game-changer. Though I don’t expect the former (and future) players would benefit as much as they think they should. Instead I think a lot of the market would dry up as a lot of colleges would consider dropping scholarship sports.

Once it becomes fully mercenary the programs that want to be de facto minor and training leagues for the professional leagues can take that role and the other colleges can move back towards concentrating on education.

166 EPR-radar  Thu, Jun 20, 2013 1:18:40pm

re: #153 GeneJockey

This, although the genocide of the Native Americans gives it a good run for its money.

US history is full of awful episodes (just like everyone else’s history, pretty much). There is no American exceptionalism in history.

It takes a special kind of perversity to pick out the single worst thing from that sorry record and try to more or less justify it. It used to be mainly ‘lost cause’ fools getting all misty-eyed about the Confederacy, but these days it has progressed to where “welfare is worse than slavery” is a standard issue GOP talking point.

167 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Jun 20, 2013 1:19:23pm

re: #161 Kragar

Merchants invest in metals.

Survivors invest in equipment.

Yea, look where the dinosaurs investment in that iridium meteor got them.
:p

168 EPR-radar  Thu, Jun 20, 2013 1:21:52pm

re: #165 Feline Fearless Leader

That would be delightful to see, if a class action suit forces collegiate athletes to be compensated.

How the NCAA can claim to be defending the principles of “amateur athletics” is beyond me.

169 Gus  Thu, Jun 20, 2013 1:22:04pm

—->

170 GeneJockey  Thu, Jun 20, 2013 1:25:43pm

re: #166 EPR-radar

US history is full of awful episodes (just like everyone else’s history, pretty much). There is no American exceptionalism in history.

It takes a special kind of perversity to pick out the single worst thing from that sorry record and try to more or less justify it. It used to be mainly ‘lost cause’ fools getting all misty-eyed about the Confederacy, but these days it has progressed to where “welfare is worse than slavery” is a standard issue GOP talking point.

I often wonder at the folks who talk about how God Blessed America, that we are somehow special in His eyes.

Maybe they’re right - God gave us this fertile land, with all manner of natural resources.

- And he populated it with a less technologically advanced people who were vulnerable to our childhood diseases.

- Then he provided another continent full of less technologically advanced people we could get to do our work for us for free.

- Then he made sure the country to the South, which owned some land we wanted, was not especially good at fighting, so we could take it from them.

Yeah, we’re God’s Righteous, that’s for sure.
//

171 Feline Fearless Leader  Thu, Jun 20, 2013 1:29:01pm

re: #168 EPR-radar

That would be delightful to see, if a class action suit forces collegiate athletes to be compensated.

How the NCAA can claim to be defending the principles of “amateur athletics” is beyond me.

There would be a lot of fallout from it. And I just somehow suspect that the athletic machine colleges would somehow take it out heavily on their various non-profitable programs that Title IX makes them sustain.

Plus I’m sure lots of accounting tricks and such would creep in that would keep the money in the NCAA and college administrations for the most part in any case.

172 Backwoods_Sleuth  Thu, Jun 20, 2013 1:36:28pm

re: #124 freetoken

Speaking of GOP and racism:

E.W. Jackson Says the Government Is Worse for Black People Than Slavery

yep, black families had it sooooo much better back in the days when mom was used for breeding stock and dad and the children could be sold away to keep up the plantation profit margin….

173 EPR-radar  Thu, Jun 20, 2013 1:55:40pm

re: #171 Feline Fearless Leader

There would be a lot of fallout from it. And I just somehow suspect that the athletic machine colleges would somehow take it out heavily on their various non-profitable programs that Title IX makes them sustain.

Plus I’m sure lots of accounting tricks and such would creep in that would keep the money in the NCAA and college administrations for the most part in any case.

That all seems very plausible to me. Fat cats gotta fat cat, after all.

I’m just very tired of the “let pretend this is amateur athletics” fairy tale at the bottom of this multi-billion $ per year enterprise.

174 danhenry1  Thu, Jun 20, 2013 8:46:31pm

I have not seen even one mention of Jim Allen on Fox News. So it can’t be true. Plenty of ‘Catholic Bashing’, by the President in Ireland, (I couldn’t see it), but he’ll what do I know? ‘her hair hung over her shoulder’.

175 danhenry1  Thu, Jun 20, 2013 8:48:17pm

Oh, go B’s.


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