2 | missliberties Sat, Jan 4, 2014 11:33:05am |
That was so freaking awesome!!
What do they do? Have folks sitting around watching every show, so they can see who is being naughty or nice? They called the show before it was even over?
Best of all, if you are going to put money behind shit, than show your face and stand behind it. Or are the Kochs a bunch of rich whiney cowards who want to put up millions for their agenda, while hiding in the closet?
3 | makeitstop Sat, Jan 4, 2014 11:36:53am |
Ahh, she’s just reading from a script. She’s kinda interesting, though.
/
4 | wrenchwench Sat, Jan 4, 2014 11:37:01am |
”..the selection of stories that we cover on the show reflects my belief as the host….”
WHOODA THUNK IT???!?
6 | Justanotherhuman Sat, Jan 4, 2014 11:38:12am |
re: #2 missliberties
That was so freaking awesome!!
What do they do? Have folks sitting around watching every show, so they can see who is being naughty or nice? They called the show before it was even over?
Best of all, if you are going to put money behind shit, than show your face and stand behind it. Or are the Kochs a bunch of rich whiney cowards who want to put up millions for their agenda, while hiding in the closet?
They have their minions to do it.
Good on Rachel for calling their asses out.
7 | Justanotherhuman Sat, Jan 4, 2014 11:39:15am |
Yikes!
Oceanfront home encrusted in ice in Scituate. #wbz #wbznews pic.twitter.com/czQNhNlWlt— kim tunnicliffe (@KimWBZ) January 4, 2014
I can’t imagine you could keep this place very warm…
8 | William Barnett-Lewis Sat, Jan 4, 2014 11:39:20am |
re: #3 makeitstop
Ahh, she’s just reading from a script. She’s kinda interesting, though.
/
Hush, or KT will hear you and start using that line.
9 | Charles Johnson Sat, Jan 4, 2014 11:40:29am |
Exclusive Rachel Maddow Interview Part 1: On Ratings, Reckless Romney, and More
Prior to our interview, TRMS Executive Producer Bill Wolff walked me through the paces of the program’s showprep, some of which centers around a massive handwritten whiteboard. One of Rachel’s little handwritten notes on the board is about Virginia Governor Bob McDonnell, but it casually refers to him simply as “Governor Ultrasound,” a moniker she uses for him on the show. That’s not a put-on, that’s what she really calls him, that’s how he is known around the office. The Rachel Maddow you get on TV is absolutely authentic.
That show prep begins at around noon, as Wolff lists possible stories on that white board, while Rachel reads and writes in her office. From about 2 to 3 pm, Rachel and her staff go over the whiteboard, making notes and narrowing down or combining the stories into the six or seven segments you see on the show. From three on, Rachel and the show’s writers and producers put the show together, keeping an eye out for late developments like Monday’s Romney hidden video bombshell that throws the earlier plan out the window.
Both Rachel and Wolff are quick to share credit with the staff, who are charged with maintaining TRMS’ distinctive Maddowian voice, which they accomplish seamlessly. Rachel does have a hand in all of the writing, and writes several complete segments a week, but her staff makes it seem, to the viewer, as if she has written and polished every tile in the mosaic of stories they construct every night.
10 | wrenchwench Sat, Jan 4, 2014 11:41:37am |
re: #8 William Barnett-Lewis
Hush, or KT will hear you and
startcontinue to useusingthat line.
You must have missed the previous thread…
11 | makeitstop Sat, Jan 4, 2014 11:42:00am |
re: #8 William Barnett-Lewis
Hush, or KT will hear you and start using that line.
Where do you think I got it?
14 | William Barnett-Lewis Sat, Jan 4, 2014 11:43:59am |
Had a crash to contend with (that computer is still rebuilding, alas) so I must have missed it during that time.
smh
16 | b_sharp Sat, Jan 4, 2014 11:45:05am |
re: #14 William Barnett-Lewis
Had a crash to contend with (that one is still rebuilding, alas, so I must have missed it during that time.
smh
Why did it crash?
17 | darthstar Sat, Jan 4, 2014 11:45:21am |
People Nowadays. — Oh Myyy pic.twitter.com/6DqtKTwKyR— George Takei (@GeorgeTakei) January 4, 2014
18 | darthstar Sat, Jan 4, 2014 11:46:22am |
19 | ramex Sat, Jan 4, 2014 11:46:54am |
You would think Phil Robertson’s supporters would want to speak up for Rachel Maddow’s first amendment rights being threatened. Wait… no you wouldn’t.
21 | Killgore Trout Sat, Jan 4, 2014 11:47:51am |
re: #9 Charles Johnson
….writes several complete segments a week, but her staff makes it seem, to the viewer, as if she has written and polished every tile in the mosaic of stories they construct every night.
yeah, it’s not a secret. Nobody could single handedly write and research an hour long monologue every day, it’s just not possible.
22 | ObserverArt Sat, Jan 4, 2014 11:48:28am |
re: #3 makeitstop
Ahh, she’s just reading from a script. She’s kinda interesting, though.
/
Probably. At least from what I read.
/
23 | Ryan King Sat, Jan 4, 2014 11:48:34am |
re: #21 Killgore Trout
yeah, it’s not a secret. Nobody could single handedly write and research an hour long monologue every day, it’s just not possible.
And who believes that she does the whole show herself?
24 | Charles Johnson Sat, Jan 4, 2014 11:49:35am |
re: #21 Killgore Trout
yeah, it’s not a secret. Nobody could single handedly write and research an hour long monologue every day, it’s just not possible.
I think you missed this part of the sentence:
Rachel does have a hand in all of the writing…
25 | BongCrodny Sat, Jan 4, 2014 11:50:12am |
Hey! It’s Randolph and Mortimer Duke! Mor-tay!!
26 | Charles Johnson Sat, Jan 4, 2014 11:51:27am |
re: #21 Killgore Trout
yeah, it’s not a secret. Nobody could single handedly write and research an hour long monologue every day, it’s just not possible.
And the point is that your claim Maddow just parrots words others write for her is simply not true.
27 | Lidane Sat, Jan 4, 2014 11:51:48am |
re: #21 Killgore Trout
No shit. There is an entire staff working on Rachel’s show. This is not news.
It ALSO doesn’t invalidate the fact that she has a significant hand in what is said and done on her show. It’s got her name on it.
28 | Killgore Trout Sat, Jan 4, 2014 11:53:15am |
re: #24 Charles Johnson
I think you missed this part of the sentence:
Once again we’re in agreement. Maddow, the producers, management, etc choose the topics and editorial direction and a staff of writers does the script. It’s how TV is done.
29 | missliberties Sat, Jan 4, 2014 11:53:31am |
You know what else the Koch brothers get ultra defensive about….. talk of income inequality. Or how wages have stayed stagnant, while the uber wealthy make more in five minutes than a lowly hard working regular guy makes in a whole year. They don’t have a good answer for that and they don’t like it when folks talk about it.
My question for the Koch DudeBros, is why are they always hiding?
30 | ObserverArt Sat, Jan 4, 2014 11:54:18am |
re: #27 Lidane
No shit. There is an entire staff working on Rachel’s show. This is not news.
It ALSO doesn’t invalidate the fact that she has a significant hand in what is said and done on her show. It’s got her name on it.
She didn’t build that!
/ ..wait, what?
31 | makeitstop Sat, Jan 4, 2014 11:54:18am |
re: #28 Killgore Trout
Once again we’re in agreement. Maddow, the producers, management, etc choose the topics and editorial direction and a staff of writers does the script. It’s how TV is done.
Try to be a little more dismissive next time.
32 | Ryan King Sat, Jan 4, 2014 11:54:20am |
All these poor souls that believe she writes every word in her show, all by herself, only to be mistaken because Management writes every word.
Call the Juxtaposition Police, we have an Article 6 infraction.
33 | Lidane Sat, Jan 4, 2014 11:54:56am |
re: #28 Killgore Trout
Except that Rachel writes her own script. She’s not just fed lines from other people and told to read them. She’s got a PhD in public policy, for fuck’s sake. Your tiresome act of pretending it’s all just staged theater belittles her education and her hard work.
34 | Ryan King Sat, Jan 4, 2014 11:56:16am |
Lady Half Gov just returned from a cabin and posted on Facebook:
So resolutions shall be repeated here to hold myself accountable in 2014:
1) Eat more meat.
2) Help others make the Federal Government as irrelevant in our lives as possible.
3) Live out Coach John Wooden’s “Pyramid of Success”, encouraging everyone to do our individual part to live with industriousness, self-discipline and selflessness so we, collectively as a nation, can restore America to her exceptionalism. Certainly don’t wait for politicians or cultural icons to do it - it’s imperative we do our own individual part.
But wait, there’s more:
Here’s #4: Be even more aggressive in calling out media for practicing lapdog laziness. Hey reporters, we know that once Barack Obama got elected you bailed on keeping government accountable; you’ve been abject failures there. Case in point: Nixon’s presidency was over once reporters busted him for allowing his people to spy on political opponents. Today, the Obama Presidency’s hallmark is spying (in addition to violating economic and Constitutional liberties), for which you celebrate Barack Obama. Transparently hypocritical, much?
35 | jaunte Sat, Jan 4, 2014 11:56:32am |
Did anyone ever claim that Maddow’s show was a single-handed effort? I missed that.
36 | Killgore Trout Sat, Jan 4, 2014 11:56:44am |
re: #33 Lidane
Except that Rachel writes her own script.
Then what do the writers do? The article says she writes a couple segments per week on her own. Who writes the rest of them?
37 | darthstar Sat, Jan 4, 2014 11:58:56am |
@Todd__Kincannon @JeffersonObama Kincannon: small penis; small mind. http://t.co/x2ai8S1rB9— Roland M. Franklin (@Roland29201) January 4, 2014
The link is an email Todd sent with a picture of his dick.
The rest of the thread is pretty funny.
38 | Iwouldprefernotto Sat, Jan 4, 2014 11:59:14am |
re: #36 Killgore Trout
Then what do the writers do? The article says she writes a couple segments per week on her own. Who writes the rest of them?
I give up.
39 | makeitstop Sat, Jan 4, 2014 11:59:17am |
re: #29 missliberties
You know what else the Koch brothers get ultra defensive about….. talk of income inequality. Or how wages have stayed stagnant, while the uber wealthy make more in five minutes than a lowly hard working regular guy makes in a whole year. They don’t have a good answer for that and they don’t like it when folks talk about it.
My question for the Koch DudeBros, is why are they always hiding?
Let’s remember where their vast wealth initially came from.
A People’s History of Koch Industries: How Stalin Funded the Tea Party Movement
They probably wouldn’t want to talk about that, either.
40 | Lidane Sat, Jan 4, 2014 11:59:20am |
re: #36 Killgore Trout
And again you belittle and dismiss her because she doesn’t exist in a neat, pre-fab MBF world just for you.
Rachel has a PhD in public policy. She takes the topics she talks about seriously. She does research, and she has a heavy hand in her own goddamn show. Just because you want to pretend that it’s all fed to her by other people doesn’t invalidate that.
41 | Charles Johnson Sat, Jan 4, 2014 11:59:44am |
re: #28 Killgore Trout
Once again we’re in agreement. Maddow, the producers, management, etc choose the topics and editorial direction and a staff of writers does the script. It’s how TV is done.
No, actually, we aren’t in agreement about this at all. The interview I just posted shows that Maddow controls the editorial direction of her show, that she has a hand in all the writing, and that she writes quite a few complete segments entirely by herself.
Yes, she has a staff. That’s not evidence for your claims that she’s just a talking head saying whatever management wants her to say.
42 | makeitstop Sat, Jan 4, 2014 12:01:53pm |
re: #40 Lidane
And again you belittle and dismiss her because she doesn’t exist in a neat, pre-fab MBF world just for you.
Rachel has a PhD in public policy. She takes the topics she talks about seriously. She does research, and she has a heavy hand in her own goddamn show. Just because you want to pretend that it’s all fed to her by other people doesn’t invalidate that.
She was a Rhodes Scholar as well, no?
Rachel is smart, successful and accomplished. Maybe someone’s a tad jealous.
43 | ObserverArt Sat, Jan 4, 2014 12:02:50pm |
re: #36 Killgore Trout
Then what do the writers do? The article says she writes a couple segments per week on her own. Who writes the rest of them?
So, no idea what a script is, eh? No idea how she could not write it all yet still lay down an outline? Outline, like a script, the direction the show will go.
Oh, you mean she has to script it all? Words are fun aren’t they? Like people in many ways.
44 | RealityBasedSteve Sat, Jan 4, 2014 12:02:56pm |
The ability to follow the money trail is getting harder and harder with the changes that are being suggested and made. Right now it’s possible to make very large contributions to one of the various special interest groups who specialize in “Advocacy and Education” (which is a legal fig leaf more and more), claim a tax deduction, and not have to have your name listed.
Some (the right) would argue that “Forcing people to make their name available opens them up to abuse from the left”, but that argument really doesn’t cut it for me.
Here is what I would like to see.
1. Any contribution to any organization that endorses OR opposes any candidate CAN NOT be tax deductible. Put a reasonable limit on the amount that any one individual can contribute, both to an individual candidate and during any given political cycle.
2. Any contribution to any organization that is a true Advocacy and Education based can be tax deductible, but the names and amount have to be made available.
3. Any organization that wants a tax-deductible / non-profit status has to make the names and amounts of ALL donors available.
I’m sure that I haven’t considered all the aspects of this, but that’s ok with me for now. This is a strategic level overview, not a tactical implementation.
To begin to imagine that I have as much access and influence with my local congresscritter or state rep as the NPO that can donate basically unlimited amounts into that individuals PAC is laughable. Lets try and even things up a bit somehow.
RBS
And a pony… I want a pony.
45 | Charles Johnson Sat, Jan 4, 2014 12:05:27pm |
Julian Assange Gave A Very Peculiar Response When He Was Asked About 'Getting Snowden Out Of The US' http://t.co/AE8DhJAcGE— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) January 4, 2014
46 | bratwurst Sat, Jan 4, 2014 12:06:21pm |
re: #42 makeitstop
Rachel is smart, successful and accomplished. Maybe someone’s a tad jealous.
I would say more of a contrarian who shows his low regard for most people here by attacking someone many of us respect.
47 | missliberties Sat, Jan 4, 2014 12:07:28pm |
re: #15 Lidane
Rachel continues to be awesome. Good for her.
I don’t think folks are fully aware of the far reaching agenda of the Kochs.
Love that Rachel moxie. Why do they need to hide? She aint gonna read their script. They are welcome to come on the show and speak for themselves.
The Kochs have quietly pushed free market purists on several school boards, and state universities, spending millions to usurp longtime qualified locals who don’t know how to ‘think right’ about the wonders of pure freedom that would be unleashed by worshipping at the altar of unfettered capitalism.
49 | Lidane Sat, Jan 4, 2014 12:08:23pm |
re: #35 jaunte
Did anyone ever claim that Maddow’s show was a single-handed effort? I missed that.
She’s just like Bugs Bunny in this cartoon, don’tcha know:
Rachel does it all — sets, lighting, cameras, editing, wardrobe, hair, makeup, etc. If anyone else helps her out, she’s just a useless puppet for The Man.
50 | GlutenFreeJesus Sat, Jan 4, 2014 12:09:25pm |
re: #36 Killgore Trout
Then what do the writers do? The article says she writes a couple segments per week on her own. Who writes the rest of them?
Seriously. Who put a bug up your butt?
51 | Eventual Carrion Sat, Jan 4, 2014 12:09:43pm |
re: #36 Killgore Trout
Then what do the writers do? The article says she writes a couple segments per week on her own. Who writes the rest of them?
People under her direction.
52 | Bridgeghazi: Never Forget!!11!!!!11 Sat, Jan 4, 2014 12:10:01pm |
re: #37 darthstar
Was, was that really Todd’s Little Richard?
53 | GlutenFreeJesus Sat, Jan 4, 2014 12:10:30pm |
I’d love to see the Koch family on Undercover Boss. But we all know that will never happen. Ever.
54 | missliberties Sat, Jan 4, 2014 12:11:10pm |
re: #35 jaunte
Or any show for that matter. Of course every show has producers, researchers etc. Rachel has an exceptional staff. Her stories are interesting and often not in sync with the ‘talking points’ of the day, that most other shows succumb to.
55 | gwangung Sat, Jan 4, 2014 12:11:47pm |
re: #21 Killgore Trout
yeah, it’s not a secret. Nobody could single handedly write and research an hour long monologue every day, it’s just not possible.
Yet you keep making idiotic statements like “her saying what the producers tell her to” and minimizing her role.
That’s dishonest.
56 | Backwoods_Sleuth Sat, Jan 4, 2014 12:12:05pm |
I’m seeing a few more reports about this now.
BREAKING: Center of Iraqi city of Fallujah falls fully into hands of al-Qaida group, police say: http://t.co/2OljjRYDhu
— The Associated Press (@AP) January 4, 2014
57 | Stanley Sea Sat, Jan 4, 2014 12:13:39pm |
re: #42 makeitstop
She was a Rhodes Scholar as well, no?
Rachel is smart, successful and accomplished. Maybe someone’s a tad jealous.
Someone just wants attention again. It’s all KT’s got.
58 | Killgore Trout Sat, Jan 4, 2014 12:15:03pm |
re: #40 Lidane
And again you belittle and dismiss her because she doesn’t exist in a neat, pre-fab MBF world just for you.
Actually one of the reasons I don’t care for her show is it does fit into a “neat, pre-fab” world. It’s a show with a target demographic that doesn’t include me. I’m not at all surprised that she’s opposed to the Koch bros., I knew that already. I’m not surprised she refuses to give them the retraction they asked for. Opposition to Koch Bros. projects is editorial policy on all the MSNBC shows and has been for quite some time. I know a lot of people find this exciting and refreshing and it is just what I would have predicted her response would be.
59 | Iwouldprefernotto Sat, Jan 4, 2014 12:16:32pm |
I don’t watch her show a lot, but the few times I have she has given credit to her producers. I’ve even seen her dragging them out to be on camera and report their findings.
60 | Eventual Carrion Sat, Jan 4, 2014 12:17:47pm |
re: #56 Backwoods_Sleuth
I’m seeing a few more reports about this now.
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And AQ thanks the US profusely.
61 | gwangung Sat, Jan 4, 2014 12:18:12pm |
re: #58 Killgore Trout
Actually one of the reasons I don’t care for her show is it does fit into a “neat, pre-fab” world. It’s a show with a target demographic that doesn’t include me.
You need to do better than that. Not-Kilgore is a BIG category and does not particularly discriminate among different varieties of Not-Kilgore thought, particularly among observations that are obvious and those that are non-obvious and not often heard.
It’s sloppy and lazy thinking as it now stands.
62 | Iwouldprefernotto Sat, Jan 4, 2014 12:18:25pm |
63 | Killgore Trout Sat, Jan 4, 2014 12:18:53pm |
re: #56 Backwoods_Sleuth
I’m seeing a few more reports about this now.
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Yeah, that’s a bummer. For a while there it looked like Iraq might hold together but regional instability and spillover from Syria isn’t going to stop anytime soon. What a mess.
64 | makeitstop Sat, Jan 4, 2014 12:19:17pm |
re: #62 Iwouldprefernotto
Has the right wing blamed Obama yet?
It’s the weekend. I figure they’ll really get into it in earnest on Monday morning.
65 | Lidane Sat, Jan 4, 2014 12:22:26pm |
re: #58 Killgore Trout
It’s a show with a target demographic that doesn’t include me.
Not enough pepper spray for your tastes, eh?
So basically, because you’re intellectually lazy you see fit to dismiss an educated, successful woman who offers an opinion you don’t agree with just because her show has a staff. Gotcha.
66 | GlutenFreeJesus Sat, Jan 4, 2014 12:23:23pm |
67 | Ming Sat, Jan 4, 2014 12:25:09pm |
re: #47 missliberties
The Kochs have quietly pushed free market purists on several school boards, and state universities, spending millions to usurp longtime qualified locals who don’t know how to ‘think right’ about the wonders of pure freedom that would be unleashed by worshipping at the altar of unfettered capitalism.
I agree with your comment. I think it’s worth emphasizing that many on the right wing sing the praises of “the free market”, but don’t practice what they preach. Are the Koch brothers against special tax breaks, specifically for the oil industry? Are they against the hundreds of billions of dollars in farm subsidies that go to red states? Do they favor simplifying our Soviet-style ultra-complex tax code?
I don’t know any of these details. But I sometimes would love to ask people like the Koch brothers what exactly they mean by “pure freedom”, “the free market”, or “unfettered capitalism”.
68 | wrenchwench Sat, Jan 4, 2014 12:36:24pm |
Do we EVER acknowledge that Romney politics entrench the poverty & hopelessness that leave Black families unable to keep their babies?— Amadi Lang Syne (@amaditalks) January 4, 2014
69 | dog philosopher Sat, Jan 4, 2014 12:36:29pm |
Pope Francis is calling for a change in the culture of seminaries, saying priests who are taught only to toe the line will become “little monsters.”
…
“Problems are not solved simply by forbidding doing this or that. Dialogue as well as confrontation are needed,” he said.
…
“Formation [of future priests] is a work of art, not a police action,” he added. “We must form their hearts. Otherwise we are creating little monsters. And then these little monsters mold the people of God. This really gives me goose bumps.”
…
“Just think of the religious who have hearts as sour as vinegar,” he said at one point. “They are not made for the people. In the end, we must not form administrators, managers — but fathers, brothers, traveling companions.”
…
“This is really very important to me: the need to become acquainted with reality by experience, to spend time walking on the periphery in order really to become acquainted with the reality and life-experiences of people,” he said.
“If this does not happen we then run the risk of being abstract ideologists or fundamentalists, which is not healthy.”
this advice should have a much wider application beyond merely catholic seminarians
70 | Killgore Trout Sat, Jan 4, 2014 12:37:09pm |
Marines’ Post-Benghazi Forces Rescue Embassy Personnel -
Marines escorted U.S. State Department personnel aboard a plane Friday, evacuating much of the embassy in Juba, South Sudan, as the conflict there escalated and put the safety of the embassy at risk. It’s the latest action for the Marine Corps task force established last year to respond to such emergencies, and it’s unlikely their involvement in Africa will wane anytime soon. In fact, the Marines’ response in South Sudan comes despite the creation last year of a U.S. Army crisis-response unit that was supposed to handle emergencies in the region. And if recent movements are any indication, the force faces the prospect of mission creep as instability across the region raises the prospect of more violence in Egypt, Libya and other countries. The Special Purpose Marine Air Ground Task Force-Crisis Response, as the Marine Corps unit is known, was established in the wake of the Benghazi debacle last spring to respond by air to crises across northern Africa, primarily from bases in Morón, Spain, and Sigonella, Italy, with KC-130J planes and MV-22B tilt-rotor Ospreys.
71 | Backwoods_Sleuth Sat, Jan 4, 2014 12:41:01pm |
Smile break:
“@CrazyEwen: Nana, Nana, Nana, Nana, Batman pic.twitter.com/IvWDCRihRU” @halksmush
— Mike (@Dark_Blue_Box) January 4, 2014
72 | AlexRogan Sat, Jan 4, 2014 12:44:02pm |
re: #21 Killgore Trout
yeah, it’s not a secret. Nobody could single handedly write and research an hour long monologue every day, it’s just not possible.
What’s your fucking point, KT?
73 | wrenchwench Sat, Jan 4, 2014 12:44:37pm |
74 | Snarknado! Sat, Jan 4, 2014 12:47:36pm |
Meanwhile, it’s a sunny day in the Bay Area, weather in the high ’60s (sorry everyone east of me!) and I’m going out into it. See y’all later!
(Go Rachel! Go Rachel! GO RACHEL!)
75 | Charles Johnson Sat, Jan 4, 2014 12:48:08pm |
Positano, Italy - the Golden Hour. pic.twitter.com/TiN17P5GhN— Picamotor (@Pica_motor) January 4, 2014
76 | ObserverArt Sat, Jan 4, 2014 12:54:21pm |
So, Kilgore, do you support the Koch Brothers and all their methods of setting up and/or backing various political groups they can ‘script’ into doing politically predictable stances to support their interests?
What kind of sources do you support and trust, or is that cynicism all encompassing and you trust no one other than your own views on everything? And should you trust no one, then doesn’t your own view become prefabbed preconception?
77 | dog philosopher Sat, Jan 4, 2014 12:55:05pm |
re: #67 Ming
Do they favor simplifying our Soviet-style ultra-complex tax code?
was there really an ‘ultra-complex’ tax code in the soviet union?
78 | Romantic Heretic Sat, Jan 4, 2014 12:55:40pm |
I find it amusing that the person with the biggest balls in journalism is a woman.
79 | Backwoods_Sleuth Sat, Jan 4, 2014 12:56:28pm |
This Arctic cold thing that’s coming reminds me of January 19-20, 1985.
I was at my amateur radio club’s annual club holiday party in Joliet. After dinner & festivities, drove the short distance to a friend’s house in New Lenox to continue said festivities. A bottle of wine in my car had frozen in the very few hours during the dinner. On the way to New Lenox, my oil filter exploded (it was frozen as well).
Spent that Sunday bundled up in many blankets on my friend’s living room sofa, watching ice build up inside the house along the window and door frames.
That was the year that Chicago recorded a record low of −27 °F coupled with 25 mph winds to produce a wind chill of −77 °F, also never recorded before in Chicago.
Seriously, once in a lifetime was more than enough for me.
80 | Charles Johnson Sat, Jan 4, 2014 12:56:40pm |
+91° 21' 67.4956, -71° 96' 44.5640 pic.twitter.com/lrvkPYMl2l— Google Street (@GoogIeStreets) January 4, 2014
81 | makeitstop Sat, Jan 4, 2014 12:57:52pm |
Well, this must have been jolly fun…
82 | Romantic Heretic Sat, Jan 4, 2014 12:59:36pm |
re: #29 missliberties
You know what else the Koch brothers get ultra defensive about….. talk of income inequality. Or how wages have stayed stagnant, while the uber wealthy make more in five minutes than a lowly hard working regular guy makes in a whole year. They don’t have a good answer for that and they don’t like it when folks talk about it.
My question for the Koch DudeBros, is why are they always hiding?
They’re hoping that when the revolution comes they’ll have enough time to escape with all their money. A wall of obvious minions will protect them.
83 | thedopefishlives Sat, Jan 4, 2014 1:04:12pm |
re: #79 Backwoods_Sleuth
My very first winter here in Minnesota (2006-2007), it got bitterly cold during January and February, in the well-below-zero vein like we’re having this weekend. It was my first experience with cold that frigid, and I spent it in a drafty old cabin that leaked like a sieve. My truck would barely roll over in the mornings and I burned so much gas letting it idle long enough to warm up.
84 | CuriousLurker Sat, Jan 4, 2014 1:05:05pm |
re: #65 Lidane
Not enough pepper spray for your tastes, eh?
So basically, because you’re intellectually lazy you see fit to dismiss an educated, successful woman who offers an opinion you don’t agree with just because her show has a staff. Gotcha.
If you think about it, KT rarely if ever talks about which news shows’ target demographic does include him (if there are any that do). He also manages to avoid revealing news sources he considers reliable, thereby avoiding any criticism or ridicule of his own sources.
All he does is point & laugh at items he’s cherry-picked from liberal sources we’re likely to respect or identify with, portraying their liberal audiences—or in the case of blogs, their active members—as credulous, bobble-headed sheeple who exist in an echo chamber and like it that way (unlike himself, who is neither left nor right, but an independent thinker and very special snowflake). Why? Because he knows it’ll make us twitch and because always straddling the fence & playing the part of contrarian gives him deniability.
Why does he like to make us twitch? I don’t know.
Maybe he’s just bored and does it for shits & giggles.
Maybe it makes him feel superior.
Maybe he really & truly cares about everyone here and believes his efforts are helping us (though you’d think the hostility he encounters would give him a clue that his method isn’t working).
Maybe it’s performance art and he’s doing it for some unknown 3rd party’s entertainment.
Who knows? And at the end of the day, who really cares? We all have interests & activities outside this blog and can walk away from it any time we choose.
As a matter of fact, now that I think of it, Charles is the only one who can’t easily pull the plug and walk away from LGF. Hmm… interesting.
85 | Romantic Heretic Sat, Jan 4, 2014 1:10:05pm |
re: #67 Ming
I don’t know any of these details. But I sometimes would love to ask people like the Koch brothers what exactly they mean by “pure freedom”, “the free market”, or “unfettered capitalism”.
Like all people of their ilk, they care nothing for freedom or capitalism. They are only concerned about power and wealth.
Which is why they are working so hard to remake the country in their image. When America is a wholly owned subsidiary of Koch Industries they will be the most powerful and most wealthy. Furthermore, they would cheerfully support Communism if it made them more wealthy and powerful.
In fact, as I’ve noted before, many ‘capitalists’ (inheriting money does not make a person a capitalist) agree with Marx’s analysis of capitalism and work hard to make it so. Their only two points of dissent are they believe this form of capitalism is a good thing and the class war their behaviour provokes will be won by them.
86 | Backwoods_Sleuth Sat, Jan 4, 2014 1:10:40pm |
re: #83 thedopefishlives
My very first winter here in Minnesota (2006-2007), it got bitterly cold during January and February, in the well-below-zero vein like we’re having this weekend. It was my first experience with cold that frigid, and I spent it in a drafty old cabin that leaked like a sieve. My truck would barely roll over in the mornings and I burned so much gas letting it idle long enough to warm up.
I spent my younger years in New York State, from Malone to Buffalo, then almost 20 of my young adult years in solidly in the lake effect snow area south of Chicago.
Which is why I chose to spend my “declining years” in eastern Kentucky, which normally has mild winters. You know the kind: “oh yay! pretty snow! oooh…temps dropping to the 20s tonight, fire up that woodstove!”
I so totally hate sub-zero temps, especially with 20-30 mph winds.
Be forewarned everyone…I am going to haz a VERY SERIOUS grumpy Monday & Tuesday…
87 | Just never mind. Sat, Jan 4, 2014 1:11:20pm |
Ok, Lizards….
Say your prayers for the Hoopster.
It’s going down to -55F in Wisconsin tonight & he’s SO not prepared!
88 | Backwoods_Sleuth Sat, Jan 4, 2014 1:11:44pm |
re: #84 CuriousLurker
Ha! I was thinking “performance art” just a few minutes ago.
Needs mohr frogs though…
90 | Romantic Heretic Sat, Jan 4, 2014 1:12:02pm |
91 | thedopefishlives Sat, Jan 4, 2014 1:12:09pm |
re: #87 Floral Giraffe
Ok, Lizards….
Say your prayers for the Hoopster.
It’s going down to -55F in Wisconsin tonight & he’s SO not prepared!
Yeah, I’ve been thinking about him a lot over the course of this cold snap, being my (virtual) neighbor and all.
92 | Backwoods_Sleuth Sat, Jan 4, 2014 1:12:52pm |
re: #87 Floral Giraffe
Ok, Lizards….
Say your prayers for the Hoopster.
It’s going down to -55F in Wisconsin tonight & he’s SO not prepared!
dayum…
93 | thedopefishlives Sat, Jan 4, 2014 1:13:16pm |
re: #86 Backwoods_Sleuth
I spent most of my formative years on the Illinois plain and just off the southeast corner of Lake Michigan. It never seemed to get as cold on the lake as it does up here, though.
94 | b_sharp Sat, Jan 4, 2014 1:13:39pm |
re: #87 Floral Giraffe
Ok, Lizards….
Say your prayers for the Hoopster.
It’s going down to -55F in Wisconsin tonight & he’s SO not prepared!
No central heat?
95 | Just never mind. Sat, Jan 4, 2014 1:14:13pm |
re: #91 thedopefishlives
He’s thinking about burning furniture, if the power goes off.
It’s DAMN cold!
96 | b_sharp Sat, Jan 4, 2014 1:14:49pm |
re: #95 Floral Giraffe
He’s thinking about burning furniture, if the power goes off.
It’s DAMN cold!
What the hell is he living in, a log cabin?
97 | Backwoods_Sleuth Sat, Jan 4, 2014 1:16:46pm |
re: #93 thedopefishlives
I spent most of my formative years on the Illinois plain and just off the southeast corner of Lake Michigan. It never seemed to get as cold on the lake as it does up here, though.
True, but lots and LOTS of snow. I worked about 10 miles west of my house there, I would roll into town with my car covered in snow and people would be looking at me thinking “where the hell did you just come from?”
The lake effect stopped about 2 miles west of my farm. Go from three feet of snow to dry pavement as if there was a force field installed.
98 | RealityBasedSteve Sat, Jan 4, 2014 1:18:24pm |
re: #87 Floral Giraffe
Ok, Lizards….
Say your prayers for the Hoopster.
It’s going down to -55F in Wisconsin tonight & he’s SO not prepared!
Even when you’re prepared, -55 is going to be brutal and then some.
RBS
99 | Kid A Sat, Jan 4, 2014 1:19:01pm |
@BryanJFischer It's called “winter” you insufferable, bible-thumping twat.
— Eric Christian Smith (@ericphototx) January 4, 2014
100 | William Barnett-Lewis Sat, Jan 4, 2014 1:20:06pm |
re: #79 Backwoods_Sleuth
This Arctic cold thing that’s coming reminds me of January 19-20, 1985.
I was at my amateur radio club’s annual club holiday party in Joliet. After dinner & festivities, drove the short distance to a friend’s house in New Lenox to continue said festivities. A bottle of wine in my car had frozen in the very few hours during the dinner. On the way to New Lenox, my oil filter exploded (it was frozen as well).
Spent that Sunday bundled up in many blankets on my friend’s living room sofa, watching ice build up inside the house along the window and door frames.
That was the year that Chicago recorded a record low of −27 °F coupled with 25 mph winds to produce a wind chill of −77 °F, also never recorded before in Chicago.Seriously, once in a lifetime was more than enough for me.
I remember that cold wave but I was in the Army stationed in Kansas with the 1st Infantry. The wind came down from Canada across those damn plains with nothing to slow it down. We were out on maneuvers and I drew KP that day. Halfway through the day when 75% of one Infantry Battalion had gone down from cold injuries, they pulled the plug on the exercise.
And then forgot about the mess unit. We had broken down everything but one tent and one cook stove we were using for heat. The walls of the GP Large were frozen solid and we just huddled around the stove hoping they’d remember us before we ran out of gas for the stove. They did but barely. It sputtered out as we loaded ourselves onto the truck to go back to the barracks. I pray that hell is hot because the cold hell of norse myth seems even worse to me than that after that night on KP.
101 | Killgore Trout Sat, Jan 4, 2014 1:20:56pm |
re: #84 CuriousLurker
Well, not that you’re asking me but I’ll answer anyways.
Not much cable news appeals to me. I suppose the closest thing would be BBC which has nice coverage of international, foreign policy stuff. I dislike the TV format because it’s too passive, the viewer just absorbs what their told. With print stories it’s easier to stop reading, google the author, pause and check a fact, look up the author of a quote, etc. For editorial stuff I like Daily Beast, Foreign Policy, Christian Science Monitor, and NYT. I like the longer format and more nuanced opinions over short simplistic partisan stuff.
102 | AntonSirius Sat, Jan 4, 2014 1:20:58pm |
re: #52 People For The Ethical Treatment Of Sarah Palin
Was, was that really Todd’s Little Richard?
Or his toy Kincannon?
103 | thedopefishlives Sat, Jan 4, 2014 1:21:27pm |
re: #97 Backwoods_Sleuth
True, but lots and LOTS of snow. I worked about 10 miles west of my house there, I would roll into town with my car covered in snow and people would be looking at me thinking “where the hell did you just come from?”
The lake effect stopped about 2 miles west of my farm. Go from three feet of snow to dry pavement as if there was a force field installed.
Yeah, even a good old-fashioned Minnesota blizzard can’t hold a candle to the lake effect snow. We had an April snowstorm that left us without power for 4 days. The tall drift at the top of the driveway was over the hood of our truck; I had to cut it down with a shovel and a snowblower so that Dad could get out to town to get us water. It turned out later that the generator we were running was capable of running the well pump, had we wanted to use it.
104 | Kid A Sat, Jan 4, 2014 1:21:45pm |
The Republican outreach to gays continues:
@David__Healy @NikitaZol Yeah because “GodWasAHomoToo” is a valid argument. Yes an argument that you are a sick fag.
— Anthony Capo (@tonykeywest) January 4, 2014
105 | b_sharp Sat, Jan 4, 2014 1:21:46pm |
re: #98 RealityBasedSteve
Even when you’re prepared, -55 is going to be brutal and then some.
RBS
He needs to build an igloo. If properly built, the snow acts as an insulator and the temperature inside won’t go much below 0C.
but then again, a properly built insulted house with central heating seldom goes below room temperature.
106 | Dr Lizardo Sat, Jan 4, 2014 1:21:47pm |
re: #87 Floral Giraffe
Ok, Lizards….
Say your prayers for the Hoopster.
It’s going down to -55F in Wisconsin tonight & he’s SO not prepared!
I’ve never been in anything that cold. Coldest I’ve been in is -4 F. Berlin, 2010.
107 | Killgore Trout Sat, Jan 4, 2014 1:22:00pm |
re: #87 Floral Giraffe
Ok, Lizards….
Say your prayers for the Hoopster.
It’s going down to -55F in Wisconsin tonight & he’s SO not prepared!
Damn, I’ll say a prayer in a Siberian accent for added warmth bonus.
108 | ObserverArt Sat, Jan 4, 2014 1:23:37pm |
Sending warm thoughts to ‘hoops!
Sounds like central Ohio is in for this cold dip starting tomorrow night and all through Tuesday. We may see -10 with some wind.
And Sleuth, that cold you wrote about in ‘85. It may not be the exact same snap, but I remember one time that year when it was around -10 or less here in Columbus and I went out to start my VW Rabbit (‘80) and warm it up. I got in, cranked it over and was planning on letting it warm slowly. I was getting ready to go back in the house and as I got out of the car, my usual routine of shutting the car off and getting out took over. I meant to leave the key in the ignition and keep it running. No problem though…I was able to remove the key and car stayed running. Damn thing was so cold, the springs on the connectors in the switch must have been cold and damp with a thin coat of ice enough, they stayed in the on position. Never had that happen before or since.
109 | Eventual Carrion Sat, Jan 4, 2014 1:24:02pm |
re: #99 Kid A
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And that annoying 3rd grade lesson about the water cycle. Heat causes water to evaporate into the atmosphere, water is suspended in atmosphere until conditions cause it to fall back to earth as precipitation (rain, snow, hail, etc). More heat means, more moisture evaporated into the atmosphere, which means more comes down as precipitation. Is he not smarter than a 3rd grader?
110 | thedopefishlives Sat, Jan 4, 2014 1:24:16pm |
On this side of the St. Croix, Governor Mark Dayton has already closed the schools for Monday and many businesses are already telling their workers not to come in. My employer is one of them, but like a crazy idiot, I am probably going to try to get into the office.
111 | b_sharp Sat, Jan 4, 2014 1:24:45pm |
re: #109 Eventual Carrion
And that annoying 3rd grade lesson about the water cycle. Heat causes water to evaporate into the atmosphere, water is suspended in atmosphere until conditions cause it to fall back to earth as precipitation (rain, snow, hail, etc). More heat means, more moisture evaporated into the atmosphere, which means more comes down as precipitation. Is he not smarter than a 3rd grader?
Probably not.
112 | William Barnett-Lewis Sat, Jan 4, 2014 1:26:10pm |
re: #110 thedopefishlives
On this side of the St. Croix, Governor Mark Dayton has already closed the schools for Monday and many businesses are already telling their workers not to come in. My employer is one of them, but like a crazy idiot, I am probably going to try to get into the office.
I’ll grant this to the idiot, but Walker wanted to do the same but the Governor doesn’t have the authority to do that in Wisconsin. Figures that one of the few good things he wanted to do he can’t while he can do all kinds of things to screw the state up…
113 | Killgore Trout Sat, Jan 4, 2014 1:28:07pm |
re: #101 Killgore Trout
Well, not that you’re asking me but I’ll answer anyways.
Not much cable news appeals to me. I suppose the closest thing would be BBC which has nice coverage of international, foreign policy stuff. I dislike the TV format because it’s too passive, the viewer just absorbs what their told. With print stories it’s easier to stop reading, google the author, pause and check a fact, look up the author of a quote, etc. For editorial stuff I like Daily Beast, Foreign Policy, Christian Science Monitor, and NYT. I like the longer format and more nuanced opinions over short simplistic partisan stuff.
I forgot to add Mother Jones. I don’t really consider them an outlet for reliable news but I will read their editorials. Quite often they are surprising and have a fresh perspective I hadn’t considered before.
114 | Just never mind. Sat, Jan 4, 2014 1:28:16pm |
re: #96 b_sharp
What the hell is he living in, a log cabin?
Pretty much. He’s just moved there & is TOTALLY unprepared!
115 | Backwoods_Sleuth Sat, Jan 4, 2014 1:29:18pm |
re: #110 thedopefishlives
On this side of the St. Croix, Governor Mark Dayton has already closed the schools for Monday and many businesses are already telling their workers not to come in. My employer is one of them, but like a crazy idiot, I am probably going to try to get into the office.
Pretty sure you’ll be changing your mind about that…
;)
116 | Backwoods_Sleuth Sat, Jan 4, 2014 1:30:17pm |
re: #114 Floral Giraffe
Pretty much. He’s just moved there & is TOTALLY unprepared!
Is it too late for him to find a hotel that will let Winston stay with him?
ETA: Because that is what I would STRONGLY suggest he do…
117 | thedopefishlives Sat, Jan 4, 2014 1:31:04pm |
re: #115 Backwoods_Sleuth
Pretty sure you’ll be changing your mind about that…
;)
Oh, I probably will. I’m not worried about the house, the Mrs. Fish has that covered; and the car has just had its latest round of routine maintenance and is ready to fly. It’s trying to navigate around all the other people as stupid as I am that’s the problem.
118 | b_sharp Sat, Jan 4, 2014 1:31:21pm |
re: #116 Backwoods_Sleuth
Is it too late for him to find a hotel that will let Winston stay with him?
Yes, if possible.
119 | Backwoods_Sleuth Sat, Jan 4, 2014 1:31:48pm |
re: #117 thedopefishlives
Oh, I probably will. I’m not worried about the house, the Mrs. Fish has that covered; and the car has just had its latest round of routine maintenance and is ready to fly. It’s trying to navigate around all the other people as stupid as I am that’s the problem.
^^THIS^^
120 | CuriousLurker Sat, Jan 4, 2014 1:32:29pm |
re: #101 Killgore Trout
Well, not that you’re asking me but I’ll answer anyways.
Not much cable news appeals to me. I suppose the closest thing would be BBC which has nice coverage of international, foreign policy stuff. I dislike the TV format because it’s too passive, the viewer just absorbs what their told. With print stories it’s easier to stop reading, google the author, pause and check a fact, look up the author of a quote, etc. For editorial stuff I like Daily Beast, Foreign Policy, Christian Science Monitor, and NYT. I like the longer format and more nuanced opinions over short simplistic partisan stuff.
Interesting, thanks. I don’t much like cable news either and in its place have come to depend on many of the same sources you mention (except for the Daily Beast). Maybe one day soon you’ll post a link to an article by one of them and we can all discuss it like grown-ups for a change.
Believe it or not, I miss the “old” (pre-Occupy) KT.
121 | b_sharp Sat, Jan 4, 2014 1:34:18pm |
re: #114 Floral Giraffe
Pretty much. He’s just moved there & is TOTALLY unprepared!
So you’re saying he has no heat in the house? Oh shit.
-55F (-48C) is nothing to fuck around with. Neither is burning wood inside a house, CO2 and CO build up to dangerous levels.
Does he have a basement?
122 | Killgore Trout Sat, Jan 4, 2014 1:35:18pm |
re: #120 CuriousLurker
Believe it or not, I miss the “old” (pre-Occupy) KT.
Believe it or not, I am the old pre-occupy KT. You shouldn’t miss me, I’m right here.
123 | William Barnett-Lewis Sat, Jan 4, 2014 1:36:49pm |
re: #122 Killgore Trout
Believe it or not, I am the old pre-occupy KT. You shouldn’t miss me, I’m right here.
No. No, he’s not. You got scared and became some one else. The rest of us still mourn the loss.
124 | Justanotherhuman Sat, Jan 4, 2014 1:42:38pm |
Exposed skin could get frostbite within 10 min in what’s coming to NE Ohio…
ALERT | A WINTER STORM WARNING has now been issued Sunday for all of NE OHio. Details @ http://t.co/pVYr9R84DT pic.twitter.com/SjBh1v7LmI— WKYC Channel 3 News (@wkyc) January 4, 2014
I hope they get everyone off the streets and people show some common sense, like staying indoors.
125 | thedopefishlives Sat, Jan 4, 2014 1:42:52pm |
Just went out and re-attached a board that had fallen out of Outdoor Cat’s kitteh house. Hopefully she will be able to stay warm through this cold. It has a heater pad in it and the Mrs. Fish lined it with ripped-up old jeans and cardboard boxes.
126 | Just never mind. Sat, Jan 4, 2014 1:43:58pm |
re: #116 Backwoods_Sleuth
I tried, but he can’t get out from where he is now.
127 | thedopefishlives Sat, Jan 4, 2014 1:44:32pm |
re: #126 Floral Giraffe
I tried, but he can’t get out from where he is now.
Ugh. I hope he will be okay. This weekend is going to be rough.
128 | Backwoods_Sleuth Sat, Jan 4, 2014 1:44:33pm |
re: #126 Floral Giraffe
I tried, but he can’t get out from where he is now.
well, crap. Hard-headed he is…
129 | CuriousLurker Sat, Jan 4, 2014 1:44:42pm |
re: #122 Killgore Trout
Believe it or not, I am the old pre-occupy KT. You shouldn’t miss me, I’m right here.
Heh, I had a feeling you were gonna say that. Sorry, but I disagree, and now, sadly, it’s gotten to the point where many feel guarded & hostile towards your mere appearance in a thread. I don’t think it’s a group delusion. Whatever the cause, it makes it damned near impossible to have a civil discussion with you, and I hope thing change this year. Speaking of—Happy New Year.
130 | dog philosopher Sat, Jan 4, 2014 1:45:39pm |
re: #124 Justanotherhuman
Exposed skin could get frostbite within 10 min in what’s coming to NE Ohio…
I hope they get everyone off the streets and people show some common sense, like staying indoors.
the term ‘global warming’ has been such a red herring. we should be talking about Unusual Coldness + Unusual Warmness => Global Climate Change
131 | CuriousLurker Sat, Jan 4, 2014 1:46:09pm |
132 | dog philosopher Sat, Jan 4, 2014 1:46:57pm |
jehovah’s witnesses came around. tried to scare them off by discussing the Germanic Substrate Hypothesis…
133 | Decatur Deb Sat, Jan 4, 2014 1:47:12pm |
re: #78 Romantic Heretic
I find it amusing that the person with the biggest balls in journalism is a woman.
Always been a bit of that around:
134 | thedopefishlives Sat, Jan 4, 2014 1:47:26pm |
re: #132 dog philosopher
jehovah’s witnesses came around. tried to scare them off by discussing the Germanic Substrate Hypothesis…
We had a couple of kids from the Latter Day Saints the other night. Part of me wanted to tell the Mrs. Fish to let ‘em in just to keep ‘em warm. It’s a bit cold to be going door-to-door.
135 | Just never mind. Sat, Jan 4, 2014 1:47:41pm |
re: #122 Killgore Trout
Believe it or not, I am the old pre-occupy KT. You shouldn’t miss me, I’m right here.
I don’t miss you a bit! Because you’re still here!
{{{KT}}}
136 | Justanotherhuman Sat, Jan 4, 2014 1:49:15pm |
Now you all have me worried about HH. Hope he’ll be OK…
re: #130 dog philosopher
the term ‘global warming’ has been such a red herring. we should be talking about Unusual Coldness + Unusual Warmness => Global Climate Change
This is abnormal, what’s going on now. It’s to be expected in climate change. The entire country, with the exception of the west coast and southwest bottom, is pretty much in the freezer with this Arctic mass hanging over us.
137 | wrenchwench Sat, Jan 4, 2014 1:49:19pm |
re: #125 thedopefishlives
Just went out and re-attached a board that had fallen out of Outdoor Cat’s kitteh house. Hopefully she will be able to stay warm through this cold. It has a heater pad in it and the Mrs. Fish lined it with ripped-up old jeans and cardboard boxes.
She should be fine with a heater pad, but if you have wool stuff to add to the cotton stuff, she’ll be snuggly.
Mr. w never had pets until he took pity on a feral cat one winter. She would sleep in out newspaper recycling box, and he started putting a sock-wrapped bottle filled with hot water in it at night. We ended up coaxing her indoors, getting her spayed, and keeping her until we moved. She wasn’t tame enough to go with us, so we found her another home.
138 | Decatur Deb Sat, Jan 4, 2014 1:50:44pm |
re: #137 wrenchwench
She should be fine with a heater pad, but if you have wool stuff to add to the cotton stuff, she’ll be snuggly.
Mr. w never had pets until he took pity on a feral cat one winter. She would sleep in out newspaper recycling box, and he started putting a sock-wrapped bottle filled with hot water in it at night. We ended up coaxing her indoors, getting her spayed, and keeping her until we moved. She wasn’t tame enough to go with us, so we found her another home.
I guess that would work with frozen LDS missionaries.
139 | thedopefishlives Sat, Jan 4, 2014 1:51:28pm |
re: #137 wrenchwench
I’m a cat person, always have been. My cat was adopted from a young girl who worked at the grocery store who was getting rid of him. The Mrs. Fish bought her cat from the pet store in town. The outdoor cat was a rescue from the Mrs. Fish’s pet-abusing nieces and nephews. She had a daughter, whom we wound up giving to a no-kill shelter.
140 | Justanotherhuman Sat, Jan 4, 2014 1:53:32pm |
Fucking tourists!
Plane makes emergency landing on Major Deegan Expressway
They’re from CT—charge them for the inconvenience.
141 | Killgore Trout Sat, Jan 4, 2014 1:57:45pm |
re: #135 Floral Giraffe
I don’t miss you a bit! Because you’re still here!
{{{KT}}}
That’s the spirit!
142 | CuriousLurker Sat, Jan 4, 2014 2:00:01pm |
re: #137 wrenchwench
Heh, last month I bought a foot warmer heated mattress pad that covers the bottom 25” of the mattress from side-to-side, because my cats were always trying to bogart the small heating pad I used for my feet. Now all three of us are happy—my feet stay warm, and they rarely insist on sharing my blanket or sleeping on top of my back or side anymore.
143 | Eclectic Cyborg Sat, Jan 4, 2014 2:01:59pm |
AP Interview: MS Gov. Bryant supports drug testing for welfare recipients
Bryant: “If I was receiving any federal or state benefits to help raise my family, I’d be glad to take a drug test. I think that would be something that would be acceptable to me if I was receiving tax benefits. I work hard for my money. The federal government or the state government has a right, I think, to merely ask people who are receiving benefits through TANF to submit to a drug test so that we can identify if you’re abusing a substance and then how we go about treating you for that.”
He’s also standing firm on his decision to refuse the Medicaid expansion in the ACA:
AP: Your plan to expand community health centers could help provide more primary care coverage, but it wouldn’t cover hospitalization. Expanding Medicaid could help cover hospital expenses for some people who are currently uninsured.
Bryant: “For us to enter into an expansion program would be a fool’s errand. I mean, here we would be saying to 300,000 Mississippians, ‘We’re going to provide Medicaid coverage to you,’ and then the federal government through Congress or through the Senate, would do away with or alter the Affordable Care Act, and then we have no way to pay that. We have no way to continue the coverage.”
This state drives me mad sometimes.
144 | Backwoods_Sleuth Sat, Jan 4, 2014 2:03:06pm |
A few British weather-related tweets to lighten the atmosphere:
Debating whether to put the heating on or attempt an unprecedented fifth jumper
— VeryBritishProblems (@SoVeryBritish) November 20, 2013
Tutting at strong wind
— VeryBritishProblems (@SoVeryBritish) December 5, 2013
Being repeatedly told to “listen to that wind”
— VeryBritishProblems (@SoVeryBritish) December 23, 2013
145 | wrenchwench Sat, Jan 4, 2014 2:05:22pm |
re: #142 CuriousLurker
Heh, last month I bought a foot warmer heated mattress pad that covers the bottom 25” of the mattress from side-to-side, because my cats were always trying to bogart the small heating pad I used for my feet. Now all three of us are happy—my feet stay warm, and they rarely insist on sharing my blanket or sleeping on top of my back or side anymore.
That looks like a great idea…
146 | Varek Raith Sat, Jan 4, 2014 2:06:26pm |
re: #58 Killgore Trout
What did she say about the Koch Bros that needs to be retracted?
Specifics.
147 | Lidane Sat, Jan 4, 2014 2:10:52pm |
re: #143 Eclectic Cyborg
AP Interview: MS Gov. Bryant supports drug testing for welfare recipients
Ask Rick Scott how well that shit has worked out in Florida.
Drug testing welfare recipients is the new “PUNISH THE POOR!” on the right. It’s an easy emotional argument to make but in practice it’s a massive waste of time and state resources that would be better spent elsewhere.
148 | Dark_Falcon Sat, Jan 4, 2014 2:12:42pm |
re: #146 Varek Raith
What did she say about the Koch Bros that needs to be retracted?
Specifics.
Yeah, what is this kerfuffle about anyway?
149 | CuriousLurker Sat, Jan 4, 2014 2:13:12pm |
re: #145 wrenchwench
That looks like a great idea…
Oh, here—I just found this at The Weather Channel and thought of you:
Mongolarachne jurassica.
Yes, you’re now forever assocaited with bikes & spiders in my mind. LOL
150 | Justanotherhuman Sat, Jan 4, 2014 2:14:59pm |
Not such a Very British Problem…
Hoping a brisk walk will burn off the 50,000 calories you've consumed this week— VeryBritishProblems (@SoVeryBritish) December 28, 2013
I think I’ve gained at least 8 lbs since Thanksgiving. Damn it.
151 | Eclectic Cyborg Sat, Jan 4, 2014 2:15:40pm |
Is it considered morbid that I like to occasionally go back and rewatch the plane strike footage from 9/11?
152 | missliberties Sat, Jan 4, 2014 2:18:21pm |
re: #67 Ming
But I sometimes would love to ask people like the Koch brothers what exactly they mean by “pure freedom”, “the free market”, or “unfettered capitalism”.
Sensible people would ask these questions, for chist’s sake!! Where are the journalists? It is unbelievable to me that the folks with a whit of common sense have let the media run away with this ‘supply side’ freedom crap.
Precious Alan Greenspan recently explained that the housing bubble was unpreventable, noting that capitalism does these things and is always preferrable to regulations which he labeled socialism. Pure capitalism in any country around the world is always preferrable to ‘socialism’ i.e. laws restricting markets! The absolutism expressed in his beliefs was a bit astounding and in my view absurd.
153 | CuriousLurker Sat, Jan 4, 2014 2:20:57pm |
re: #145 wrenchwench
That looks like a great idea…
It was $40 very well spent. Now they both have plenty of room to curl up or stretch out without any fur flying over who gets “the warm” (though there is still the occasional dust-up over preferred sides of the bed).
154 | CuriousLurker Sat, Jan 4, 2014 2:22:27pm |
Okay, time to make a fresh pot of coffee & some dinner.
Later, lizards.
155 | Just never mind. Sat, Jan 4, 2014 2:23:44pm |
re: #151 Eclectic Cyborg
Is it considered morbid that I like to occasionally go back and rewatch the plane strike footage from 9/11?
Yes, but I lost friends there, so my opinion is maybe a little different.
156 | wrenchwench Sat, Jan 4, 2014 2:31:08pm |
re: #149 CuriousLurker
Oh, here—I just found this at The Weather Channel and thought of you:
Mongolarachne jurassica.Yes, you’re now forever assocaited with bikes & spiders in my mind. LOL
Spiders are often associated with bikes, because people put them away in sheds and garages and forget about them. Then somebody hauls it out and brings it to me….
The first place to check if you suspect a spider has taken up residence on a bike is in the brake levers. Yes, right where you put your hands…
157 | wrenchwench Sat, Jan 4, 2014 2:34:38pm |
re: #151 Eclectic Cyborg
Is it considered morbid that I like to occasionally go back and rewatch the plane strike footage from 9/11?
It’s spectacular footage, in the literal sense. I watched it a lot after it happened, but I don’t think to go back and look again.
158 | Justanotherhuman Sat, Jan 4, 2014 2:42:30pm |
GG doing some self-congratulation at his twatter site; claims members of Congress were “spied on”, although their metadata was no more collected than any other person’s and subject to the same protections.
NSA statement does not deny 'spying' on members of Congress http://t.co/zOeNSLYM8x - Remember this document: http://t.co/kIC5l0CABc— Glenn Greenwald (@ggreenwald) January 4, 2014
159 | GlutenFreeJesus Sat, Jan 4, 2014 2:44:31pm |
re: #84 CuriousLurker
If you think about it, KT rarely if ever talks about which news shows’ target demographic does include him (if there are any that do). He also manages to avoid revealing news sources he considers reliable, thereby avoiding any criticism or ridicule of his own sources.
All he does is point & laugh at items he’s cherry-picked from liberal sources we’re likely to respect or identify with, portraying their liberal audiences—or in the case of blogs, their active members—as credulous, bobble-headed sheeple who exist in an echo chamber and like it that way (unlike himself, who is neither left nor right, but an independent thinker and very special snowflake). Why? Because he knows it’ll make us twitch and because always straddling the fence & playing the part of contrarian gives him deniability.
Why does he like to make us twitch? I don’t know.
Maybe he’s just bored and does it for shits & giggles.
Maybe it makes him feel superior.
Maybe he really & truly cares about everyone here and believes his efforts are helping us (though you’d think the hostility he encounters would give him a clue that his method isn’t working).
Maybe it’s performance art and he’s doing it for some unknown 3rd party’s entertainment.
Who knows? And at the end of the day, who really cares? We all have interests & activities outside this blog and can walk away from it any time we choose.
As a matter of fact, now that I think of it, Charles is the only one who can’t easily pull the plug and walk away from LGF. Hmm… interesting.
You could have saved yourself lots if time by just saying:
KT = Troll
160 | Feline Fearless Leader Sat, Jan 4, 2014 2:46:40pm |
re: #147 Lidane
Ask Rick Scott how well that shit has worked out in Florida.
Drug testing welfare recipients is the new “PUNISH THE POOR!” on the right. It’s an easy emotional argument to make but in practice it’s a massive waste of time and state resources that would be better spent elsewhere.
Would probably have better effect if they drug tested all their own legislators before giving them their paychecks.
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161 | Lidane Sat, Jan 4, 2014 2:49:37pm |
re: #160 Feline Fearless Leader
Would probably have better effect if they drug tested all their own legislators before giving them their paychecks.
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Better yet, pay them the median income in their districts instead of a six figure salary.
162 | RadicalModerate Sat, Jan 4, 2014 3:09:27pm |
re: #58 Killgore Trout
Actually one of the reasons I don’t care for her show is it does fit into a “neat, pre-fab” world. It’s a show with a target demographic that doesn’t include me. I’m not at all surprised that she’s opposed to the Koch bros., I knew that already. I’m not surprised she refuses to give them the retraction they asked for. Opposition to Koch Bros. projects is editorial policy on all the MSNBC shows and has been for quite some time. I know a lot of people find this exciting and refreshing and it is just what I would have predicted her response would be.
So let me get this straight.
You are giving ideological cover for the sons of the FOUNDER of the John Birch Society, and who still share those same far-right political views - including racism and antisemitism - over someone who is reporting on their shenanigans based on the semantics of who might be writing the script copy that she is reading on-air? Maddow is the managing editor of her show, which means she has final say on what is or isn’t said by her on the program.
163 | makeitstop Sat, Jan 4, 2014 3:13:56pm |
re: #161 Lidane
Better yet, pay them the median income in their districts instead of a six figure salary.
YES!!! Absolutely. Let them earn what their average constituent makes, and not a dime more.
164 | Just never mind. Sat, Jan 4, 2014 3:20:53pm |
re: #159 GlutenFreeJesus
I think it’s really RUDE to call other peoples opinions “trolling”.
This site is about discourse.
166 | Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi Sat, Jan 4, 2014 3:37:04pm |
re: #130 dog philosopher
the term ‘global warming’ has been such a red herring. we should be talking about Unusual Coldness + Unusual Warmness => Global Climate Change
Global Weirding
167 | GlutenFreeJesus Sat, Jan 4, 2014 3:38:17pm |
re: #164 Floral Giraffe
I think it’s really RUDE to call other peoples opinions “trolling”.
This site is about discourse.
When you repeatedly offer an “opinion” to spite the facts, it’s no longer discourse.
Check post 84 for a good rundown.
168 | Romantic Heretic Sat, Jan 4, 2014 6:20:41pm |
re: #133 Decatur Deb
Always been a bit of that around:
In one of my stories a woman documentary maker in 2800 AD travels on a ship named the Margaret Bourke-White.
169 | piratedan Sun, Jan 5, 2014 10:20:37am |
re: #162 RadicalModerate
So let me get this straight.
You are giving ideological cover for the sons of the FOUNDER of the John Birch Society, and who still share those same far-right political views - including racism and antisemitism - over someone who is reporting on their shenanigans based on the semantics of who might be writing the script copy that she is reading on-air? Maddow is the managing editor of her show, which means she has final say on what is or isn’t said by her on the program.
well, she’s no Sean Hannity….. /////