Family Research Council’s Tony Perkins: Gay Rights Will Lead to the Extinction of Humanity

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Family Research Council president Tony Perkins told Washington Watch listeners last Friday that they should oppose gay equality because it will lead to the end of humanity.

Perkins agreed with a caller who said that gay people should be asked how they could exist “if it were not for physical relationship, intimacy between a man and a woman,” a point which followed a long rant about how President Obama is a Muslim under the influence of the Devil.

The FRC head responded that “the human race would be extinct within time if [homosexuality was] normal.”

Yes, because treating homosexuals with dignity and giving them legal rights means all humans everywhere will become gay. Apparently gay marriage is just so awesome that if people have the choice between it or regular marriage, regular marriage just doesn’t stand a chance.

More: Tony Perkins Fears Humanity Will Die Out Due to Gay Rights

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440 comments
1 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 12:56:23pm

That totally makes sense, because after “Loving v. Virginia” when interracial marriage was legalized, everybody became Black.

//

2 CriticalDragon1177  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 12:59:43pm

oh my gowd, evil Muslim Marxist Obama and da gays will destroy the world.

3 CriticalDragon1177  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 1:02:31pm

re: #1 Pie-onist Overlord

That totally makes sense, because after “Loving v. Virginia” when interracial marriage was legalized, everybody became Black.

//

There are a lot of racists who still insist that its going to cause that, and the destruction of civilization. Opposition to gay marriage and interracial marriage have a lot in common. Maybe one of us could find a bunch of quotes from racists opposing interracial marriage, and compare and contrast them to quotes from homophobes opposing same sex marriage now.

4 darthstar  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 1:14:12pm

Damn…and I had five bucks on humanity being wiped out by an asteroid…

5 Ian G.  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 1:16:03pm

re: #4 darthstar

Damn…and I had five bucks on humanity being wiped out by an asteroid…

Supervolcano. If Lake Toba don’t getcha, Yellowstone will.

Anyway, I just don’t get it. I’m supposed to want to become a homosexual when this stuff becomes legal? I’m just going to ditch my fiancee?

I think this tells us a lot more about what’s going on inside Tony Perkins’ head than we’d like to know.

6 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 1:16:17pm

I prefer to think arming everyone with guns will do that, not actually loving someone.

7 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave of the waffle light)  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 1:17:51pm

re: #5 Ian G.

Supervolcano. If Lake Toba don’t getcha, Yellowstone will.

Anyway, I just don’t get it. I’m supposed to want to become a homosexual when this stuff becomes legal? I’m just going to ditch my fiancee?

I think this tells us a lot more about what’s going on inside Tony Perkins’ head than we’d like to know.

The GOP has long since missed its chance to distance itself from whackjobs like him, they have become the very core and backbone of the party.

8 erik_t  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 1:18:24pm

No babies have been born in California (since nine months after June 28, 2013), Connecticut (Nov. 12, 2008), Iowa (Apr. 24, 2009), Massachusetts (May 17, 2004), New Jersey (Oct. 21, 2013), New Mexico (Dec. 19, 2013), Delaware (July 1, 2013), Hawaii (Dec. 2, 2013), Illinois (law will take effect June 1, 2014), Minnesota (Aug. 1, 2013), New Hampshire (Jan. 1, 2010), New York (July 24, 2011), Rhode Island (Aug. 1, 2013), Vermont (Sep. 1, 2009), Maine (Dec. 29, 2012), Maryland (Jan. 1, 2013), or Washington (Dec. 9, 2012).

That’s just science.

Confirmed. Fact.

9 GeneJockey  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 1:18:27pm

I’m always amazed that anyone says anything this stupid. It really does make me think the person saying it is really tempted.

Not me. I’d never give up the beauty of the female form in all it’s myriad versions for the hairy lumpiness and outdoor plumbing of the male form. Yeesh.

re: #4 darthstar

Damn…and I had five bucks on humanity being wiped out by an asteroid…

How were you planning to collect?
///

10 Bulworth  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 1:19:40pm
Family Research Council president Tony Perkins told Washington Watch listeners last Friday that they should oppose gay equality because it will lead to the end of humanity.

Isn’t Jesus’ Second Coming supposed to end humanity, too?

11 Charles Johnson  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 1:19:53pm

They never look more like ignorant backwoods hicks than when they say stuff like this.

12 RealityBasedSteve  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 1:20:26pm

Here are some poll results over time I posted last time this came up

Interracial Marriage
Interracial Marriage

Same Sex Marriage
SSM

RBS

13 erik_t  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 1:20:50pm

re: #9 GeneJockey

I’m always amazed that anyone says anything this stupid. It really does make me think the person saying it is really tempted.

I think most homophobic folks are just [insert flavor of dumbass here], but there is literally zero doubt with the likes of Tony Perkins and Bryan Fischer. The laser-like focus on the buttsecks is just too precise to ignore.

14 jaunte  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 1:21:42pm

Dog-in-the-Manger Party.

15 GeneJockey  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 1:22:44pm

re: #12 RealityBasedSteve

Here are some poll results over time I posted last time this came up

>Interracial Marriage
Interracial Marriage

>Same Sex Marriage
SSM

RBS

Holy crap - FOUR PERCENT in 1958?!? Whoa.

16 The Mountain That Blogs  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 1:22:59pm

re: #3 CriticalDragon1177

Maybe one of us could find a bunch of quotes from racists opposing interracial marriage, and compare and contrast them to quotes from homophobes opposing same sex marriage now.

“At present, no one—including social scientists, philosophers, and historians—can predict with any certainty what the long-term ramifications of widespread acceptance of same-sex marriage will be.”

name that quote!

17 Charles Johnson  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 1:23:20pm

Speaking of ignorant backwoods hicks, I watched Deliverance yesterday for the first time in years - that film is still pretty powerful.

18 aagcobb  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 1:23:44pm

re: #5 Ian G.

Supervolcano. If Lake Toba don’t getcha, Yellowstone will.

Anyway, I just don’t get it. I’m supposed to want to become a homosexual when this stuff becomes legal? I’m just going to ditch my fiancee?

I think this tells us a lot more about what’s going on inside Tony Perkins’ head than we’d like to know.

The only thing stopping him from marrying his rentboy is its illegal; we must save him from his unholy urges!///

19 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave of the waffle light)  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 1:24:00pm

re: #17 Charles Johnson

Speaking of ignorant backwoods hicks, I watched Deliverance yesterday for the first time in years - that film is still pretty powerful.

I’m sure it’s only gotten worse up in them hills…

20 erik_t  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 1:24:19pm

A corollary is that Tony Perkins doesn’t think religion is powerful enough to keep people from catching the ghey if the government decides to allow it, even though it’s an OMFG Tier I Übersin.

Sort of an interesting take on his God, if you ask me.

21 Kragar  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 1:24:25pm
22 geoffm33  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 1:24:51pm

re: #3 CriticalDragon1177

Maybe one of us could find a bunch of quotes from racists opposing interracial marriage, and compare and contrast them to quotes from homophobes opposing same sex marriage now.

Marriage Equality is one of the most provocative words in the English language”
― Clotye Murdock Larsson, Marriage Across the Color Line

23 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 1:24:52pm

re: #17 Charles Johnson

Speaking of ignorant backwoods hicks, I watched Deliverance yesterday for the first time in years - that film is still pretty powerful.

I watched Blazing Saddles again, with my daughter who had never seen it before.

Funniest. Movie. Ever.

24 Bulworth  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 1:25:04pm

Does Perkins know what Jesus said in Matthew 22 about there not being any marriage, and thus no more children, in Heaven?

#EndofHumanity

25 erik_t  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 1:25:23pm

re: #21 Kragar

When does Stan’s 2012 invasion get to my state? It’s getting boring and the cupcakes have grown cold and stale.

26 RealityBasedSteve  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 1:26:38pm

re: #15 GeneJockey

Holy crap - FOUR PERCENT in 1958?!? Whoa.

Now I don’t know what Gallups methods were back then in terms of normalizing results, but by any measure that’s tiny.

Thing that gets me, the RWNJs say “People are against SSM”, and yes, right now it’s right below 50% or so, but in ‘67 when Loving v. Virginia was decided, interracial marriage only had about a 20% approval rating.

RBS

27 RealityBasedSteve  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 1:27:54pm

re: #3 CriticalDragon1177

There are a lot of racists who still insist that its going to cause that, and the destruction of civilization. Opposition to gay marriage and interracial marriage have a lot in common. Maybe one of us could find a bunch of quotes from racists opposing interracial marriage, and compare and contrast them to quotes from homophobes opposing same sex marriage now.

Imagine How Stupid..

RBS

28 makeitstop  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 1:28:07pm

re: #21 Kragar

Madonna & Nicki Minaj are “witches” who signaled Satan’s 2012 invasion by publicly performing “occult rituals”

Satan invaded in 2012? Huh. I guess I was asleep that year and missed it.
/

29 Ian G.  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 1:29:00pm

re: #21 Kragar

I feel like if I played “conspiracy theory mad libs”, I still couldn’t come up with shit as bizarre as stuff that’s apparently truly believed by wingnuts.

30 BusyMonster  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 1:29:12pm

Here’s the thing about Tony Perkins: he’s an insecure man-child.

31 Dr. Matt  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 1:29:30pm

I thought Obamacare was going to lead to the extinction of mankind?! What gives????

32 geoffm33  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 1:30:53pm

re: #31 Dr. Matt

I thought Obamacare was going to lead to the extinction of mankind?! What gives????

Obamacare is the precursor to forced-gay-marriage. Which, as we all know now, will be the end of civilization.

33 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 1:30:59pm

This is just fucked up.

34 Dr. Matt  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 1:31:50pm

#Reliefghazi Reliefghazi Reliefghazi NEVER FORGET!!!!

35 erik_t  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 1:32:13pm

On the plus side, since marriage cures poverty*, at least we’re all going to be rich when the human race goes extinct!

* GOP confirmed science. Fact.

36 aagcobb  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 1:32:33pm

re: #27 RealityBasedSteve

Imagine How Stupid..

RBS

This is why I think when a case like Utah’s comes up to SCOTUS, ssm bans will be struck down nationally. Kennedy has been blazing the trail for homosexual rights in his decisions, and he will be the deciding vote and opinion writer when the time comes. I have a hard time imagining Kennedy would want history recording him as writing Plessy v. Ferguson instead of Loving v. Virginia.

37 Dr. Matt  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 1:33:16pm

re: #32 geoffm33

Obamacare is the precursor to forced-gay-marriage.

Will there be any sort of special classes before we’re forced into Teh Gay?

38 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 1:33:19pm

re: #14 jaunte

Dog-in-the-Manger Party.

There was actually a dog in the manger story in Cincinnati this past Christmas:

Gabriel the pitbull

39 aagcobb  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 1:34:18pm

re: #37 Dr. Matt

Will there be any sort of special classes before we’re forced into Teh Gay?

You will be required to pass interior decorating and fashion designing.///

40 Ian G.  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 1:34:23pm

re: #36 aagcobb

This is why I think when a case like Utah’s comes up to SCOTUS, ssm bans will be struck down nationally. Kennedy has been blazing the trail for homosexual rights in his decisions, and he will be the deciding vote and opinion writer when the time comes. I have a hard time imagining Kennedy would want history recording him as writing Plessy v. Ferguson instead of Loving v. Virginia.

Agreed. His vote on striking down DOMA suggests to me that he’s going to be the key on striking down SSM bans everywhere. Kennedy is going down in history with Earl Warren, while Scalia should end up in as good “esteem” as Roger Taney.

41 Kragar  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 1:34:34pm

I’m just wondering how I’m going to break it to my wife that we’re going to need to get divorced so we can give this gay marriage thing a try.
/

42 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 1:35:30pm

No wonder my internet service is lousy. The money isn’t going to maintenance.

Time Warner Cable Gets $61.3 Billion Offer

dealbook.nytimes.com

and, Google to Acquire Nest

investor.google.com

That’s the company that wants you to put complete control of your house on your cell phone.

43 aagcobb  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 1:36:21pm

re: #41 Kragar

I’m just wondering how I’m going to break it to my wife that we’re going to need to get divorced so we can give this gay marriage thing a try.
/

You won’t have to; Comrade Obama will issue an executive order dissolving all heterosexual marriages, then issue you your new same-sex marriage partner./

44 erik_t  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 1:36:51pm

re: #41 Kragar

I’m just wondering how I’m going to break it to my wife that we’re going to need to get divorced so we can give this gay marriage thing a try.
/

Wait until she hears about the next logical OMGbamacare step, where you’re required to gay-marry a dog.

///

45 geoffm33  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 1:37:26pm

re: #37 Dr. Matt

Will there be any sort of special classes before we’re forced into Teh Gay?

Your FEMA section commander will have all the information you need. //

46 RealityBasedSteve  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 1:38:13pm

re: #39 aagcobb

You will be required to pass interior decorating and fashion designing.///

geeze. I need GerAnimal tags to get my clothes to match. I had a friend tell me “I’ve seen your closet, even if you wanted to be gay, I’m not sure we’d let you”. Will there be affirmative action for those of us who don’t understand why you can’t wear a plaid shirt with a striped tie? I mean, they are both blue…

RBS

47 Dr. Matt  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 1:39:25pm

re: #45 geoffm33

Your FEMA section commander will have all the information you need. //

I can never get a meeting with her; she’s too busy having abortions and forcing other women to have abortions.

48 simoom  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 1:39:29pm

re: #205 darthstar

More Robert Gates deflating GOP dreams.

I typed up most of the transcript from that Today show clip. The last bit, that I didn’t include, was an exchange about his empathy for wounded veterans.

Gates is now saying he never meant to imply that the President said his opposition to the Iraq Surge was political, instead he meant that the president was saying other people’s opposition had been. Gates is also now saying that the reservations about how the Afghan war was going did not occur prior to committing to the strategy, but came up, the next year, in private (clearly not so private) conversations between the president and Gates, where the president expressed concerns about whether the strategy was working. Gates also, once again, says that he agrees with all the decisions the president made, including his schedule for the draw-down and his current future planning.

Yeah, Gates’ narrative is all over the place, but this really should be the end of what happened all last week on Fox, and on the Sunday shows, where politicians and pundits and partisan anchors kept claiming Gates had revealed Obama’s opposition to the Iraq surge had been all political, and that Obama’s support for the Afghan surge had been all politics as well. He’s now explicitly rebutted both claims.

Lauer: “You surprised by the reaction?”

Gates: “Not really surprised, but, in a way, disappointed that the book has been, sort of, hijacked by people along the political spectrum to serve their own purposes, taking quotes out of context and so on. It’s sort of part of the political warfare in Washington that I decry in the book.”

Lauer: “You say taken out of context. Reading the book there are a lot of times you level a very stark criticism at someone and then a couple of sentences later, or paragraphs later or maybe pages later you kind of ease back on and say, ‘well actually I kind of agreed with that person.’ But you’re a veteran. You served for eight presidents actually. You’ve been in Washington a long time. You know that it’s the grenade you throw more than the pull back that’s going to make the headlines. You had to know that this would happen.”

Gates: “Well, I wasn’t surprised by it and the truth is I think the book is very even handed. I don’t vilify anybody and I make clear that I have a lot of respect for both president Bush and president Obama and just like on Afghanistan I think that, you know, what has been lost in the news media is that I actually agreed with virtually every decision president Obama made on Afghanistan.”

Lauer: “You agree with those decisions after saying you thought the president had lost his belief in the mission or his passion in the mission and by the way, it’s not something you say just once in the book. By my count you said it about eight times using terms like you, ‘expected more commitment to the cause’ that you ‘doubted his support for the mission’ and you said that he was ‘skeptical if not outright convinced that it would fail.’ So you made a pretty strong point in the book the he didn’t believe in the mission.”

Gates: “Well, first of all, what gets conflated is the fact that I said along the way that, when he made those decisions, particularly for the Afghan surge, in November of 2009, I absolutely believe that he was convinced it would work. I think that his reservations grew, and the way that I outline it in the book is that his reservation began to grow in the spring of 2010, but as late as December 2010 he was still saying we’re on the right track in Afghanistan. So, it was in our private conversations where he would express these reservations about whether it was working, but the decisions were right, and I believe that he believed that it would work. [crosstalk] But let me just say Matt that, in a way, it parallels president Bush in 2006, when president Bush began to have reservations about whether his strategy in Iraq was working.”

Lauer: “But, as he started to, perhaps, believe in the success of that mission less, you’re still signing deployment orders for people to go over there. As Secretary of Defense did you have a bad feeling about that. Did you ever confront the president about his lack of passion for the mission at that time?”

Gates: “I talked to his chief of staff, Rahm Emanuel, about the need for the president to take ownership of the war, and I did talk to the president about the need to speak out about the importance of the war and why it was important for the troops to be there.”

Lauer: “As this criticism is leveled by you, in the book, of the Commander in Chief, the acting Commander of Chief, at a time when some forty-thousand US troops are in harms way, do you think that by calling him into question, at this stage, that it is either dangerous or dishonorable?”

Gates: “Well, neither. I think the decisions have all been made, with respect to Afghanistan. I agree with those decisions. We’re going to be out of there in December of 2014. I agree with the decisions for a residual force. I agreed with the presidents deployment draw-downs that we had.”

Lauer: “You don’t think that it undermines his credibility with the troops he is Commander in Chief of right now?

Gates: “No I don’t.”

Lauer: “Let me move on to another subject, and this is one that’s gotten a lot of attention. You recount a conversation between Hillary Clinton and the president, talking about George Bush’s surge in Iraq, where you basically say that Hillary told the president that her opposition to the surge had been political because she was facing him in the Iowa primary and the president conceded vaguely that his opposition to the Iraq Surge had also been political. That’s a pretty strong statement. I think that people have a right to know, not ‘conceded vaguely’, what exactly did the president say?”

Gates: “Well, what I say in the book was that the president conceded that a lot of the opposition to the surge had been political. He never said that his opposition had been political, and in fact, his opposition was consistent with his opposition to the war all along. The thing about Hillary’s comment, that caught my attention, was first of all, obviously, I was on the other side of that issue in the spring of 2007, but it was such an anomaly. Because in the whole time that I served with Secretary Clinton I never heard her, as Secretary of State, discuss domestic politics in any way shape or form as influencing her recommendations to the president or her views on issues of national security.”

Lauer: “But this revelation, that perhaps her opposition was purely political because of the Iowa primary. Do you think that will or should hurt her in her political ambitions down the road?”

Gates: “No, I think there’s a difference between when your in the Senate and you’re campaigning for office and when you have responsibility of office, and when she had the responsibilities of office I never heard her bring domestic politics into the issue.”

49 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 1:39:46pm

re: #46 RealityBasedSteve

geeze. I need GerAnimal tags to get my clothes to match. I had a friend tell me “I’ve seen your closet, even if you wanted to be gay, I’m not sure we’d let you”. Will there be affirmative action for those of us who don’t understand why you can’t wear a plaid shirt with a striped tie? I mean, they are both blue…

RBS

Almost Laura Ashley, if you wore the floral pants.

50 Charles Johnson  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 1:39:51pm

51 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 1:41:23pm

re: #12 RealityBasedSteve

Here are some poll results over time I posted last time this came up

>Interracial Marriage
Interracial Marriage

>Same Sex Marriage
SSM

RBS

Did they just poll white people, or all people?

52 RealityBasedSteve  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 1:41:32pm

re: #49 Justanotherhuman

Almost Laura Ashley, if you wore the floral pants.

See, I had to google Laura Ashley…. I’m headed for the straight person work camps for sure now. Been good knowing ya all.

RBS

53 S'latch  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 1:42:01pm

Because with just over 7,206,135,000 people on the planet, sex which may not produce more offspring is not helpful.

The population growth today has been a meager 155,516 so far.

54 geoffm33  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 1:42:04pm

re: #50 Charles Johnson

“Oh my.”
— George Takei

“Oh, that’s nasty”
— Cleveland

55 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 1:42:05pm

re: #17 Charles Johnson

Speaking of ignorant backwoods hicks, I watched Deliverance yesterday for the first time in years - that film is still pretty powerful.

It must be a guy thing, I never got that movie.

Well, I liked the dueling banjos.

56 RealityBasedSteve  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 1:45:04pm

re: #51 FemNaziBitch

Did they just poll white people, or all people?

Based on what I can find on their site, it looks like the ‘58 results was whites only, but in 68 and beyond they were breaking it out by race.

RBS

57 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 1:46:10pm

re: #56 RealityBasedSteve

Based on what I can find on their site, it looks like the ‘58 results was whites only, but in 68 and beyond they were breaking it out by race.

RBS

So, really the charts you posted are not valid.

58 Charles Johnson  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 1:46:14pm

re: #55 FemNaziBitch

It must be a guy thing, I never got that movie.

Well, I liked the dueling banjos.

I actually read the novel by James Dickey before I ever saw the film. It’s an incredible book.

Deliverance (Modern Library 100 Best Novels) eBook: James Dickey: Books

59 GeneJockey  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 1:46:49pm

re: #41 Kragar

I’m just wondering how I’m going to break it to my wife that we’re going to need to get divorced so we can give this gay marriage thing a try.
/

You don’t have to get divorced. One of you could convert.
///

60 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 1:47:22pm

re: #58 Charles Johnson

I actually read the novel by James Dickey before I ever saw the film. It’s an incredible book.

Deliverance (Modern Library 100 Best Novels) eBook: James Dickey: Books

I’ll put it in the queue.

61 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 1:48:06pm

re: #59 GeneJockey

You don’t have to get divorced. One of you could convert.
///

I was thinking about that. Will there be subsidies for the procedure?

62 geoffm33  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 1:49:41pm

re: #61 FemNaziBitch

I was thinking about that. Will there be subsidies for the procedure?

GREAT, NOW MY TAXES ARE GOING TO GO UP!!!!

63 RealityBasedSteve  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 1:51:31pm

re: #57 FemNaziBitch

So, really the charts you posted are not valid.

I would say that they do validly represent the data, they come directly from Gallup’s site. I don’t have access to the methodology and crosstabs from those surveys, but they do a good job of summarizing them on the link. It is clear that from ‘68 on they are tracking the opinion of blacks as a group.

RBS

64 BusyMonster  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 1:53:10pm

I came back to add that if getting gay married will guarantee the extinction of Tony Perkins, I’m all for it. Bend me ovah.

65 Dr. Matt  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 1:53:50pm

Beagle goes to great lengths to get some chicken nuggets (Video)

66 Jack Burton  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 1:57:39pm

re: #50 Charles Johnson

Youtube Video

67 Kragar  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 1:58:13pm
68 b.d.  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 1:58:49pm

If everyone were gay then Tony wouldn’t have to worry about Obamacare paying for birth control.

69 Lidane  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 2:01:00pm

re: #67 Kragar

70 Stephen T.  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 2:02:38pm

re: #23 Pie-onist Overlord

I watched Blazing Saddles again, with my daughter who had never seen it before.

Funniest. Movie. Ever.

My daughter is currently nine-and-a-half. I’m looking forward to the day I can share all my favorite movies with her. I’ve shared some, but the age gate on the others means they’ll have to wait.

71 Kragar  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 2:05:47pm

re: #70 Stephen T.

My daughter is currently nine-and-a-half. I’m looking forward to the day I can share all my favorite movies with her. I’ve shared some, but the age gate on the others means they’ll have to wait.

My 12 year old isn’t mature enough to watch the same movies my 10 year old does.

72 Dr. Matt  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 2:07:06pm
Two shot after dispute over noise in theater

“I can’t believe people would bring a gun to a movie,” added Cummings, a Marine who served in Vietnam.

Watch the RWNJs denigrate yet another veteran……

73 GlutenFreeJesus  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 2:08:30pm

Tony Perkins, THIS is for you.

74 Political Atheist  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 2:09:22pm

Gay Rights Will Lead to the Extinction of Humanity


This is just deeply, profoundly delusional. Is this supposed to make people walking with dinosaurs look plausible by comparison or something?

75 darthstar  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 2:11:20pm
76 allegro  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 2:12:53pm

re: #74 Political Atheist

Gay Rights Will Lead to the Extinction of Humanity

This is just deeply, profoundly delusional. Is this supposed to make people walking with dinosaurs look plausible by comparison or something? This is just deeply, profoundly delusional. Is this supposed to make people walking with dinosaurs look plausible by comparison or something?

It can apparently create echoes.

77 William Barnett-Lewis  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 2:13:37pm

re: #71 Kragar

My 12 year old isn’t mature enough to watch the same movies my 10 year old does.

I’ve shared youtube clips of things like the fireside bean meal and the pie fight but my just turned 12 year old son isn’t ready for the whole movie.

Sharing Monty Python & the Holy Grail though was a blast but the best so far? Princess Bride.

78 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 2:15:12pm
“We want to promote the idea of the unity between the West and Russia on the basis of common Christian roots,” Sevastianov told Inside the Vatican magazine in 2009. “We believe in this alliance among traditional Christian countries…and we believe that, with a united voice, we can be a strong force against the radical secular world which has become dominant in our societies.”

also Paged

79 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 2:15:55pm

re: #46 RealityBasedSteve

geeze. I need GerAnimal tags to get my clothes to match. I had a friend tell me “I’ve seen your closet, even if you wanted to be gay, I’m not sure we’d let you”. Will there be affirmative action for those of us who don’t understand why you can’t wear a plaid shirt with a striped tie? I mean, they are both blue…

RBS

I’m not so sure this stuff took off, because obviously you have to spend a lot of money. For most men, a lavender tie, or pink shirt, with a conservative suit is stretching it. Or torn jeans with a store-advertisement t-shirt, to show you’re a “hip” shopper. I like color on men, which is why I like “ethnic” clothes, also, like dashikis.

Men in Plaid Do Mix

nytimes.com

80 Bulworth  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 2:17:07pm
“We believe in this alliance among traditional Christian countries…and we believe that, with a united voice, we can be a strong force against the radical secular world which has become dominant in our societies freedom.”
81 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 2:17:10pm

re: #72 Dr. Matt

I doubt it. This shooting is not justifiable, and I doubt anyone will defend him. We don’t even know if he had a valid CCW permit or even if he legally owned the gun he used.

82 darthstar  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 2:17:51pm
83 GeneJockey  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 2:19:25pm

re: #77 William Barnett-Lewis

I’ve shared youtube clips of things like the fireside bean meal and the pie fight but my just turned 12 year old son isn’t ready for the whole movie.

Sharing Monty Python & the Holy Grail though was a blast but the best so far? Princess Bride.

My kids are strange, and different. Largely, different from each other. The older one, when he was little, would get frightened by movies and leave the room during scary parts. During the “Fly my pretties!” scene in ‘Wizard of Oz’, he went outside, found a box to stand on, and watched from outside the window. I thought that showed a remarkable emotional self-awareness, putting distance between him and the scary bit by putting a window in between.

The younger boy would want to watch scary movies, and would watch all the way through, then complain that we’d let him watch because it scared him.

Nowadays, the older one wants to watch movies with us, whereas the younger one, if we ever sit down as a family to watch something, will slip off to his room instead.

84 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 2:19:58pm

re: #78 FemNaziBitch

also Paged

When the Ruskies say they want to be your friend, that’s a good time to look out for the disguised gun.

/Somewhat kidding, but not entirely.

85 Lidane  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 2:20:05pm

re: #75 darthstar

Edward Snowden’s relationship with Wikileaks shouldn’t surprise anyone.

86 Eclectic Cyborg  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 2:21:36pm

re: #72 Dr. Matt

Watch the RWNJs denigrate yet another veteran……

And the shooting happened at a showing for a War movie…what are the odds?

87 Eclectic Cyborg  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 2:22:13pm

re: #84 Dark_Falcon

When the Ruskies say they want to be your friend, that’s a good time to look out for the disguised gun.

/Somewhat kidding, but not entirely.

In Soviet Russia, Gun fires you!

88 Dr. Matt  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 2:24:21pm

re: #72 Dr. Matt

Two shot after dispute over noise in theater

“I can’t believe people would bring a gun to a movie,” added Cummings, a Marine who served in Vietnam.

The suspect was identified as Curtis Reeves, a retired Tampa police officer. He has been arrested on a charge of second degree homicide.

89 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 2:24:59pm
90 Eclectic Cyborg  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 2:25:01pm

re: #88 Dr. Matt

An ex-cop REALLY should have known better.

91 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 2:25:05pm

re: #72 Dr. Matt

Watch the RWNJs denigrate yet another veteran……

“Reeves, a retired Tampa police officer, was arrested and charged with second-degree murder.”

Used to the gun.

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92 darthstar  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 2:25:35pm

re: #84 Dark_Falcon

/Somewhat kidding, but not entirely.

Calling them Ruskies kind of gave that away.

93 Dr Lizardo  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 2:26:50pm

A note to all Oregon-based Lizards - it would seem that norovirus (viral gastroenteritis) cases are on the uptick, not entirely untypical for the time of year.

I’ve had it before - blecch, no fun.

kgw.com

94 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 2:27:08pm

gaaaaaaaah……

Family Sues Omaha Police Department After Parking Ticket Home Raid

In March, 32 officers flooded an Omaha, Neb., home in an attempt to recover video evidence of police misconduct and brutality, a new lawsuit claims.

It all goes downhill after that…

95 Bulworth  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 2:28:01pm

re: #88 Dr. Matt

Meet the next Teabag Party candidate for Congress.

96 Eclectic Cyborg  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 2:28:43pm

re: #93 Dr Lizardo

A note to all Oregon-based Lizards - it would seem that norovirus (viral gastroenteritis) cases are on the uptick, not entirely untypical for the time of year.

I’ve had it before - blecch, no fun.

kgw.com

I CLEARLY remember getting the Norovirus and how crappy it made me feel…in 2002. Yes, though it was 12 years ago I still remember crystal clear how that damned bug tore up my insides for the better part of a week.

97 Dr. Matt  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 2:29:54pm

re: #91 Justanotherhuman

“Reeves, a retired Tampa police officer, was arrested and charged with second-degree murder.”

Used to the gun.

Read more: myfoxtampabay.com
Follow us: @myfoxtampabay on Twitter | FOX13TampaBay on Facebook

And it was an off-duty cop that was inside the theater that detained the shooter; too bad he didn’t intervene earlier.

98 JustMark  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 2:30:10pm

re: #21 Kragar

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I thought Ozzy already had this covered?

99 Mattand  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 2:30:13pm

re: #81 Dark_Falcon

I doubt it. This shooting is not justifiable, and I doubt anyone will defend him. We don’t even know if he had a valid CCW permit or even if he legally owned the gun he used.

Honestly, so what if he did have a permit? This just speaks to the sick, destructive abusive relationship America has with firearms.

It just hurts my head that so many people in this country can’t go to the fucking corner mailbox without having some kind of weapon strapped to their person.

100 Dr Lizardo  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 2:34:48pm

re: #96 Eclectic Cyborg

I CLEARLY remember getting the Norovirus and how crappy it made me feel…in 2002. Yes, though it was 12 years ago I still remember crystal clear how that damned bug tore up my insides for the better part of a week.

Last time I had it was in 2010, when I was living in Berlin. No fun; only lasted for two or three days, but yeech…..felt like hell.

Mostly norovirus is an inconvenience, but it can be a life-threatening issue for infants, the elderly or folks with chronic illnesses or compromised immune systems.

101 Political Atheist  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 2:35:43pm

re: #76 allegro

Thx, got distracted with a phone call and trying that wingnut font.

102 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 2:36:36pm

re: #99 Mattand

Honestly, so what if he did have a permit? This just speaks to the sick, destructive abusive relationship America has with firearms.

It just hurts my head that so many people in this country can’t go to the fucking corner mailbox without having some kind of weapon strapped to their person.

Hurts my head, too.
I don’t go anywhere much anymore because CCW is really a thing here, and I know too many people here, who have their CCW permits, who I wouldn’t trust alone with sharp objects, much less loaded weapons.

103 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 2:40:00pm

re: #94 Backwoods_Sleuth

gaaaaaaaah……

Family Sues Omaha Police Department After Parking Ticket Home Raid

It all goes downhill after that…

Damn, that made me want to cry at the injustice. Horrible—not that many cops at a Mafia take-down. But poor people? And did you notice that the 6 cops already there didn’t bother going into the house until all that backup arrived?

104 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 2:41:12pm
105 Lidane  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 2:41:15pm

So the original owner of the Younger Feline Overlord talked to the vet’s office and is willing to let me adopt her. Turns out we live on the same street, but a few blocks from each other. He wants to meet in person first, I guess to decide if he likes me and thinks kitty would be in a good home. The boyfriend is going with me.

With luck, I’ll get to keep her. I’d be thrilled, since the older Feline Overlord needs a friend and I’ve gotten attached to her.

106 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 2:41:25pm

re: #103 Justanotherhuman

Damn, that made me want to cry at the injustice. Horrible—not that many cops at a Mafia take-down. But poor people? And did you notice that the 6 cops already there didn’t bother going into the house until all that backup arrived?

Nebraska is a strange place.

107 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 2:42:16pm

re: #105 Lidane

So the original owner of the Younger Feline Overlord talked to the vet’s office and is willing to let me adopt her. Turns out we live on the same street, but a few blocks from each other. He wants to meet in person first, I guess to decide if he likes me and thinks kitty would be in a good home. The boyfriend is going with me.

With luck, I’ll get to keep her. I’d be thrilled, since the older Feline Overlord needs a friend and I’ve gotten attached to her.

Younger Feline Overlord has obviously chosen you.

Thus, the decision has been made.

108 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 2:42:16pm

re: #105 Lidane

So the original owner of the Younger Feline Overlord talked to the vet’s office and is willing to let me adopt her. Turns out we live on the same street, but a few blocks from each other. He wants to meet in person first, I guess to decide if he likes me and thinks kitty would be in a good home. The boyfriend is going with me.

With luck, I’ll get to keep her. I’d be thrilled, since the older Feline Overlord needs a friend and I’ve gotten attached to her.

oh, GREAT outcome! Hope it works out!

110 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 2:45:51pm
111 Decatur Deb  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 2:46:20pm

re: #57 FemNaziBitch

So, really the charts you posted are not valid.

Pssst. Yesterday’s Sociology is rarely valid tomorrow. Anthropology, however, reaches eternal truths usually available only to Theology.

112 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 2:47:53pm

re: #81 Dark_Falcon

I doubt it. This shooting is not justifiable, and I doubt anyone will defend him. We don’t even know if he had a valid CCW permit or even if he legally owned the gun he used.

I suppose Reeves could always say the theater was his second home. Hey, it’s FL…

/////

113 Dr. Matt  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 2:49:11pm

re: #112 Justanotherhuman

I suppose Reeves could always say the theater was his second home. Hey, it’s FL…

/////

Reeves is an ex-cop, i.e., an NRA good guy with a gun.

114 darthstar  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 2:50:04pm

Boss offered a 6k raise. Asked for double that and backed it up with my accomplishments over the last six months. Also suggested a title change with more responsibility/accountability (to justify my target salary). We’ll see what happens. Either way, I feel good about how I handled it.

115 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 2:50:20pm

re: #99 Mattand

The guy was a retired cop. In most places in the US retired police officers are allowed to carry firearms, the assumption being that they’ve proven themselves responsible with them.

116 CriticalDragon1177  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 2:51:57pm

re: #15 GeneJockey

Holy crap - FOUR PERCENT in 1958?!? Whoa.

I know, things sure have changed!

117 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 2:52:37pm

re: #113 Dr. Matt

Reeves is an ex-cop, i.e., an NRA good guy with a gun.

He kills a father who was talking to his kid & maybe cutting up a bit before the movie even started? Yeah, the bastard is a real good guy…deprived the child of his father and almost both parents.

Second degree murder in FL carries a life sentence. I hope he gets it.

118 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 2:52:47pm

Here is another graphic that shows only party delineations —from 1933.

119 dog philosopher  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 2:52:58pm

re: #78 FemNaziBitch

common Christian roots

would that be like turnips and rutabagas?

120 CriticalDragon1177  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 2:53:17pm

re: #27 RealityBasedSteve

Imagine How Stupid..

RBS

Thanks, I saw your previous comment, with that picture in it.

121 GeneJockey  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 2:53:37pm

re: #113 Dr. Matt

Reeves is an ex-cop, i.e., an NRA good guy with a gun.

But No True Scotsman Good Guy With A Gun would do such a thing!

122 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 2:54:53pm

re: #119 dog philosopher

would that be like turnips and rutabagas?

Only if they are both white.

123 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 2:56:53pm
124 Dr Lizardo  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 2:57:51pm

re: #116 CriticalDragon1177

I know, things sure have changed!

I believe it was Warren Beatty who once commented that in his lifetime, he’d seen what he would’ve thought unthinkable in his youth; African-American women mainstreamed as sex symbols to the general popular culture, including to white male youth.

I believe he was speaking in the context of Halle Berry or Tyra Banks. It was in the late 90s, if I recall.

125 Mattand  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 2:58:14pm

re: #115 Dark_Falcon

The guy was a retired cop. In most places in the US retired police officers are allowed to carry firearms, the assumption being that they’ve proven themselves responsible with them.

Doesn’t really make me feel that much better, to be honest. One former cop I know pulled this same stunt outside a bar years ago. Knowing him as I do, I’m still shocked he didn’t murder the guy right then and there.

It would not surprise me to learn the cop has a history of threatening and beating people while on the job.

126 CriticalDragon1177  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 2:58:56pm

re: #33 Pie-onist Overlord

My response to the two of them.

127 Dr. Matt  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 3:00:05pm

A former cop, who is TRAINED on when and when not to use a weapon, murders an armed man…..and teabaggers think the entire populace should be armed. Idiots.

128 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 3:03:38pm

re: #124 Dr Lizardo

I believe it was Warren Beatty who once commented that in his lifetime, he’d seen what he would’ve thought unthinkable in his youth; African-American women mainstreamed as sex symbols to the general popular culture, including to white male youth.

I believe he was speaking in the context of Halle Berry or Tyra Banks. It was in the late 90s, if I recall.

Hmm. I always liked Angela Bassett, but my son had a real crush on Halle Berry.

129 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 3:04:08pm
130 Charles Johnson  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 3:04:36pm

131 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 3:05:17pm

re: #125 Mattand

Doesn’t really make me feel that much better, to be honest. One former cop I know pulled this same stunt outside a bar years ago. Knowing him as I do, I’m still shocked he didn’t murder the guy right then and there.

It would not surprise me to learn the cop has a history of threatening and beating people while on the job.

Lots of predators become cops —they are drawn by the perceived power the job comes with.

Wish there was a way to psych test all those who apply. But Sociopaths are good at beating the tests.

132 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 3:05:26pm

re: #130 Charles Johnson

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Another comic from the Johnson Crate, I assume.

133 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 3:05:57pm

re: #69 Lidane

[Embedded image]

You want your state to secede from the Union?

Tell me again how you are of the Party of Lincoln.

134 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 3:06:24pm

re: #128 Justanotherhuman

Hmm. I always liked Angela Bassett, but my son had a real crush on Halle Berry.

Whitney Houston, I think was the first black women seen as an acceptable sex symbol by white men.

135 Dr Lizardo  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 3:07:02pm

re: #128 Justanotherhuman

Hmm. I always liked Angela Bassett, but my son had a real crush on Halle Berry.

Halle Berry is stunning, so that’s quite understandable. Angela Bassett as well for that matter.

136 thedopefishlives  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 3:08:41pm

Evening Lizardim.

137 The Ghost of a Flea  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 3:08:48pm

re: #130 Charles Johnson

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Who’s the cover artist?

I ask because it looks like Jack Kirby, but I’m not articulate enough in comics art to grasp why I have that thought. The jaw line, the posture?

138 Dr Lizardo  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 3:08:48pm

re: #134 FemNaziBitch

Whitney Houston, I think was the first black women seen as an acceptable sex symbol by white men.

Yep. This photo set many a white guys heart racing:

139 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 3:10:10pm

re: #130 Charles Johnson

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Rawhide Kid is the first Gay Superhero.

140 aagcobb  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 3:12:00pm

Nichelle Nichols was pretty hot, and she had that famous kiss with Shatner!

141 dog philosopher  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 3:12:08pm

re: #138 Dr Lizardo

Yep. This photo set many a white guys heart racing:

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how about lena horne way way before that?

142 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 3:12:27pm


technically, at this point, isn’t all currency theoretical? There isn’t enough gold or land to back the currency in circulation. Trust and Faith in the US Government? really?

143 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 3:12:57pm

re: #141 dog philosopher

how about lena horne way way before that?

curvy, elegant and most of all, talented.

144 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 3:14:17pm

Nichelle

because I’m a trekkie, I’ve always loved her.

145 Mattand  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 3:17:05pm

re: #137 The Ghost of a Flea

Who’s the cover artist?

I ask because it looks like Jack Kirby, but I’m not articulate enough in comics art to grasp why I have that thought. The jaw line, the posture?

Undoubtedly Kirby.

146 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 3:17:37pm

Nichelle’s authobiography was good. She has a resume a mile long.

147 Dr Lizardo  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 3:18:41pm

re: #141 dog philosopher

how about lena horne way way before that?

Oh, yeah…..or Dorothy Dandridge:

There was a TV program here once on ČT1 about various now-forgotten actors, and Dorothy Dandridge was called the “black Marilyn Monroe”.

148 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 3:20:16pm


with that, I have to feed the dogs.

bbl

149 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 3:21:00pm

re: #147 Dr Lizardo

Oh, yeah…..or Dorothy Dandridge:

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There was a TV program here once on ČT1 about various now-forgotten actors, and Dorothy Dandridge was called the “black Marilyn Monroe”.

Halle Berry made a movie about her.

150 William Barnett-Lewis  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 3:21:26pm

re: #141 dog philosopher

Or Josephine Baker en.wikipedia.org

151 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 3:21:39pm

Christie should know about fraud…

Chris Christie vetoes bill allowing transgender people to get new birth certificates

nj.com

TRENTON - Gov. Chris Christie vetoed a bill today that would have permitted people who underwent a clinical sex change procedure to amend their gender designation on their birth certificates.

“Christie said changing a birth certificate would create opportunities for “fraud, deception and abuse, and should therefore be closely scrutinized and sparingly approved.”

“Since 1984, state law has required the Department of Health to issue new birth certificates to people who have undergone sex change surgery. But not every transgender person goes that route, with some choosing hormone therapy instead. “

152 The Ghost of a Flea  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 3:21:58pm

re: #145 Mattand

Undoubtedly Kirby.

I thought so, but would rather ask than guess.

153 Dr. Matt  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 3:25:03pm

Here is a photo of the shooting victim and his wife (Chad and Nicole Oulson):

154 thedopefishlives  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 3:25:27pm

re: #153 Dr. Matt

Wait, what happened?

155 Dr Lizardo  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 3:25:39pm

re: #150 William Barnett-Lewis

Or Josephine Baker en.wikipedia.org [Embedded image]

Ahh, yes…..the Bronze Venus, not only the toast of Paris, but active in the French Resistance during WWII.

After the war, for her underground activity, Baker received the Croix de guerre and the Rosette de la Résistance, and was made a Chevalier of the Légion d’honneur by General Charles de Gaulle

en.wikipedia.org

156 Dr. Matt  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 3:27:02pm

re: #154 thedopefishlives

Wait, what happened?

A former Tampa cop shot and killed a guy in a theatre over a dispute about texting.

157 thedopefishlives  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 3:27:23pm

re: #156 Dr. Matt

A former Tampa cop shot and killed a guy in a theatre over a dispute about texting.

No, we don’t have a gun problem, no sirree.

158 Dr Lizardo  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 3:28:59pm

re: #150 William Barnett-Lewis

And I forgot to add:

…Baker was found lying peacefully in her bed surrounded by newspapers with glowing reviews of her performance. She was in a coma after suffering a cerebral hemorrhage. She was taken to Pitié-Salpêtrière Hospital, where she died, aged 68, on April 12, 1975. Her funeral was held at L’Église de la Madeleine. The only American-born woman to receive full French military honors at her funeral, Baker locked up the streets of Paris one last time.

159 Charles Johnson  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 3:30:25pm

160 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 3:31:25pm

re: #134 FemNaziBitch

Whitney Houston, I think was the first black women seen as an acceptable sex symbol by white men.

Well, when I was a young teen back in the ’50s, I was fascinated by Lena Horne and Dorothy Dandridge—both beauties who had fame as singers but were never accepted as establishment leading ladies, even though Dandridge was nominated for an Academy Award for Carmen Jones and a Golden Globe for Porgy and Bess. Due to her leftist views, Horne was blacklisted. To me, they were beautiful, talented women—why couldn’t they be leading ladies, just like Marilyn Monroe, Lana Turner or any white actress?

161 Decatur Deb  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 3:33:49pm

re: #134 FemNaziBitch

Whitney Houston, I think was the first black women seen as an acceptable sex symbol by white men.

Image: 7YpPuxp.jpg

162 Dr Lizardo  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 3:35:32pm

re: #160 Justanotherhuman

Well, when I was a young teen back in the ’50s, I was fascinated by Lena Horne and Dorothy Dandridge—both beauties who had fame as singers but were never accepted as establishment leading ladies, even though Dandridge was nominated for an Academy Award for Carmen Jones and a Golden Globe for Porgy and Bess. Due to her leftist views, Horne was blacklisted. To me, they were beautiful, talented women—why couldn’t they be leading ladies, just like Marilyn Monroe, Lana Turner or any white actress?

Sadly, times were different, and in some circles, I imagine they’ve never changed. Read the Wiki entry on Josephine Baker, not only the Toast of Paris but considered a hero of the French Resistance and given full military honors at her funeral.

That America of the time rejected her is disgraceful; that there are still some Americans who would look down on her because she was a black woman is appalling.

163 Dr Lizardo  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 3:36:51pm

re: #161 Decatur Deb

Image: 7YpPuxp.jpg

The Kiss That Enraged Redneckistan!!

164 Archangelus  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 3:38:12pm

re: #162 Dr Lizardo

That there are still some Americans who would look down on others because they are black is appalling.

165 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 3:39:44pm

re: #163 Dr Lizardo

The Kiss That Enraged Redneckistan!!

It doesn’t count! Shatner is a Canadian!

166 Dr Lizardo  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 3:41:12pm

re: #164 Archangelus

That there are still some Americans who would look down on others because they are black is appalling.

All too true.

167 Dr Lizardo  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 3:41:43pm

re: #165 Justanotherhuman

It doesn’t count! Shatner is a Canadian!

FALSE FLAG!!11!

168 thedopefishlives  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 3:44:13pm

re: #163 Dr Lizardo

The Kiss That Enraged Redneckistan!!

Boldly going where no white man had gone before. And, clearly, enjoying it.

169 Dr Lizardo  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 3:45:05pm

re: #168 thedopefishlives

Boldly going where no white man had gone before. And, clearly, enjoying it.

lol

170 freetoken  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 3:46:25pm

re: #150 William Barnett-Lewis

Josephine Baker was one of the great beauties of dance.

Her name was invoked by Bruno in the recent season of Strictly Come Dancing, in describing one of the dancers in the series (and the best dancer by far, but who didn’t win… the British public chose the white girl who was married to the soccer star), who had significant recent African ancestry and thus was darker skinned than most Brits.

I think the praise went over the heads of most of the viewers, but the British audience perhaps grasped it more than an American audience would.

171 Decatur Deb  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 3:47:08pm

re: #168 thedopefishlives

Boldly going where no white man had gone before. And, clearly, enjoying it.

All kinds of pioneer—Moms Mabley

en.wikipedia.org

172 William Barnett-Lewis  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 3:52:22pm

re: #134 FemNaziBitch

Whitney Houston, I think was the first black women seen as an acceptable sex symbol by white men.

FWIW I always liked Janet Jackson better that way.

173 freetoken  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 3:52:46pm

Since I’m doing the Amazon Prime test run I’ve been viewing some of the videos available, and finally watched Horror In The Wind, which fails in many ways as a movie, and is about as un-subtle as a message film can be.

Yet I found parts of it disarmingly humorous, such as the progression of shoe styles of the President.

Hmm…. I wonder what kind of shoes Tony Perkins wears…

174 Kragar  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 3:53:29pm

6 Sneaky Ways Movies and TV Shows Outsmarted the Censors

#6. William Shatner Forced NBC to Air the First Interracial Kiss

In 1968, the Star Trek cast and crew were filming the episode “Plato’s Stepchildren,” which featured aliens using mind control to force Captain Kirk (William Shatner) to make out with Communications Officer Uhura (Nichelle Nichols). You know: standard classic Star Trek stuff. Star Trek just wasn’t Star Trek if Kirk wasn’t being goaded by an alien god into some sort of sexual harassment. But when it came time to shoot that scene, the director and some NBC suits got uncomfortable — not because of the weird consent issues (this was the ’60s, after all; slapping a woman was considered foreplay), but because Nichols is black. Up until that point, scripted interracial kisses on television just weren’t done. The actors wanted to shoot the scene as it was, but since they weren’t in charge, there was only one thing they could do: sabotage.

Show creator Gene Roddenberry had suggested a compromise: they’d shoot two versions of the scene, one with the kiss, and one with a hug, and use whichever worked better. Everyone knew which version NBC was going to want to use, but luckily Shatner had a plan. See, a director can’t see exactly what the camera is picking up — only the camera operator can. So while they were shooting the versions of the scene that would preserve the purity of the white race, Shatner positioned himself so that the director couldn’t see his face, stared right into the camera, and made a bunch of stupid faces.

The director, thinking he’d won, immediately called a wrap and sent everyone home. It wasn’t until they were going over the dailies that they realized what had happened. They were forced to run the scene as originally scripted, resigning themselves to having to face an explosion of controversy that (twist!) never happened.

Truly, it was a leap forward for human rights, although whether Shatner was fighting for the progression of society or just couldn’t stand to miss an opportunity to get busy on national television is anybody’s guess.

175 Dr Lizardo  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 3:54:48pm

re: #172 William Barnett-Lewis

FWIW I always liked Janet Jackson better that way.

Sade Adu.

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176 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 3:57:03pm

The hypocrisy of white men always astounded me. White men always wanted Black women, they simply didn’t want to be seen with them. They couldn’t because it would mean that they approved of “race mixing” and then “their” women would be “fair game” for Black men. Black women have always borne white men’s babies in this country, since its inception, many times as a result of coercion or rape.

That’s how racism and sexism work together. If anything, “protection of white womanhood” is the basis of most of racist thought in this country.

177 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 3:58:58pm

re: #173 freetoken

Since I’m doing the Amazon Prime test run I’ve been viewing some of the videos available, and finally watched Horror In The Wind, which fails in many ways as a movie, and is about as un-subtle as a message film can be.

Yet I found parts of it disarmingly humorous, such as the progression of shoe styles of the President.

Hmm…. I wonder what kind of shoes Tony Perkins wears…

I read the reviews and, apparently, it sucks.

178 freetoken  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 3:59:42pm

re: #177 Pie-onist Overlord

I read the reviews and, apparently, it sucks.

It ought to be thought of as a cult film, and will appeal only to those who like quirky if flawed films.

179 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 4:02:03pm

re: #178 freetoken

It ought to be thought of as a cult film, and will appeal only to those who like quirky if flawed films.

Like “The Human Centipede”?

ucccchhh.

180 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 4:02:03pm

re: #178 freetoken

It ought to be thought of as a cult film, and will appeal only to those who like quirky if flawed films.

How good could it be if made in New Mexico with unknowns?

181 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 4:03:46pm
182 Dr Lizardo  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 4:05:59pm

re: #179 Pie-onist Overlord

Like “The Human Centipede”?

ucccchhh.

Ahh, transgressive film.

I got snookered into watching “A Serbian Film”. Gadzooks! I’m no prude, not by any stretch of the imagination, but that film was over the top, to put it mildly. The director stated it was some kind of political commentary, but to be honest, I really didn’t see any political statement. Maybe I missed it, or perhaps the critique was too subtle, but I have no desire to view it again.

And this is from someone who’s seen “Salo, or The 120 Days of Sodom” by Pasolini, and in that film, I did see a commentary on Fascism.

183 ObserverArt  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 4:06:05pm

re: #27 RealityBasedSteve

Imagine How Stupid..

RBS

I know how many of those people are going to look in 40 years.

Dead.

Most of the people in the photo standing up for traditional marriage are 60 or more, or pushing it. They will not be around to be the blockheads they are. Another form of natural change. In some cases, not a bad thing for humanity.

And I say that as I push near 60. So, no sarc tag. However…a lot of My G…G…G…G Generation should have died before they got old…and stupid.

Peace ‘n’ Love to hate. Hippie waste. A bunch of them were duds then and are duds now, that is what fashion gets you.

184 dog philosopher  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 4:11:56pm

Perkins: Gay Rights Will Lead to the Extinction of

i think any humanity in perkins’ psyche has already suffered extinction…

185 Lidane  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 4:13:43pm

In the ongoing derpfest of $15/HR MINIMUM WAGE = ROBOTS TAKING OVER:

DO YOU REALLY THINK MCDONALDS WILL BE PAYING BURGER FLIPPERS $15 PER HOUR?

186 freetoken  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 4:14:05pm

re: #179 Pie-onist Overlord

The film explicitly makes fun of Fox News and the American wingnut right. E.g., the President’s name is “Pat Robertson”. The movie is guaranteed to offend at least 2/3rds of the American viewing public.

187 dog philosopher  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 4:14:18pm

re: #183 ObserverArt

I know how many of those people are going to look in 40 years.

Dead.

Most of the people in the photo standing up for traditional marriage are 60 or more, or pushing it. They will not be around to be the blockheads they are. Another form of natural change. In some cases, not a bad thing for humanity.

And I say that as I push near 60. So, no sarc tag. However…a lot of My G…G…G…G Generation should have died before they got old…and stupid.

Peace ‘n’ Love to hate. Hippie waste. A bunch of them were duds then and are duds now, that is what fashion gets you.

i’m pushing 60 so hard i think it fell over

188 Eclectic Cyborg  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 4:14:19pm

I’m embarking on an interesting experiment. I am growing a full beard for the first time since I was 19.

I really don’t want to think about how much white it will have in it.

189 freetoken  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 4:14:56pm

re: #185 Lidane

Maybe fast-food franchises aren’t really needed for Homo sapiens after all?

190 Gus  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 4:16:15pm
191 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 4:16:35pm

re: #185 Lidane

In the ongoing derpfest of $15/HR MINIMUM WAGE = ROBOTS TAKING OVER:

DO YOU REALLY THINK MCDONALDS WILL BE PAYING BURGER FLIPPERS $15 PER HOUR?

How much do you think they will have to pay a robotics specialist for maintenance, and for repair when it inevitably breaks down, since they are too cheap to pay for regular maintenance schedule?

Hint: MOAR THEN $15/HR

192 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 4:16:49pm

re: #182 Dr Lizardo

Ahh, transgressive film.

I got snookered into watching “A Serbian Film”. Gadzooks! I’m no prude, not by any stretch of the imagination, but that film was over the top, to put it mildly. The director stated it was some kind of political commentary, but to be honest, I really didn’t see any political statement. Maybe I missed it, or perhaps the critique was too subtle, but I have no desire to view it again.

And this is from someone who’s seen “Salo, or The 120 Days of Sodom” by Pasolini, and in that film, I did see a commentary on Fascism.

I just read about it in Wikipedia, and almost got sick. Absolutely beyond my imagination, totally.

Don’t know how you sat through it. What sick mind can think up “newborn porn”?

193 thedopefishlives  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 4:16:49pm

re: #190 Gus

Jeebus, it’s like a stabbity calamity out there.

194 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 4:17:42pm

See #191

195 Gus  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 4:17:43pm

re: #193 thedopefishlives

Jeebus, it’s like a stabbity calamity out there.

Seriously. Was looking for shootings and suddenly found a bunch of stabbings. Weird.

196 Eclectic Cyborg  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 4:17:49pm

re: #190 Gus

Clearly, we need more good guys with knives.

197 Gus  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 4:18:07pm
198 darthstar  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 4:19:34pm

re: #190 Gus

Sam’s Mortuary. You stab ‘em, we slab ‘em.

199 Eclectic Cyborg  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 4:20:14pm

Expect the wingnuts to be all over this:
‘Octomom’ charged with welfare fraud

200 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 4:20:29pm

TWITTER FAIL
Dumbass, you support Israel, did you know they provide abortions for all female citizens who want them?

201 Gus  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 4:20:44pm
202 thedopefishlives  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 4:21:14pm

re: #199 Eclectic Cyborg

Expect the wingnuts to be all over this:
‘Octomom’ charged with welfare fraud

Funny, didn’t she used to be a right-wing heroine? Now she gets to see the flip side of that coin.

203 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 4:21:31pm

re: #199 Eclectic Cyborg

Expect the wingnuts to be all over this:
‘Octomom’ charged with welfare fraud

Hey, she was just doing the “quiverfull” thingy…

204 Killgore Trout  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 4:21:32pm

re: #190 Gus

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It’s getting starry out there.

205 Eclectic Cyborg  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 4:21:40pm

re: #201 Gus

Cue wingnut warbling about how “more guns make cities safer”.

206 Eclectic Cyborg  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 4:22:09pm

re: #203 Justanotherhuman

Hey, she was just doing the “quiverfull” thingy…

She’s not married! Slut!

207 Gus  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 4:22:26pm
208 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 4:23:09pm

DERP.
Obama wrote an autobiography, which hit the bestseller lists and stayed at the top when he was elected POTUS.
And meanwhile this is way less than the Waltons lose every day in the sofa cushions.

209 Gus  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 4:23:15pm

re: #204 Killgore Trout

It’s getting starry out there.

West Virginia chemical spill is worse than Hiroshima and Gov. Christie is worse than Nixon. Carry on my good sir.

210 Lidane  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 4:23:25pm

So not only did the Younger Feline Overlord’s original owner let us take her, but he gave us contact info for the vet he was taking her to AND he gave us $20 to cover the fee to change ownership on her microchip with the service he’s registered at. My mind = blown.

Funny thing is, he said when she lived with him, she had a habit of getting out and escaping, but coming back at the end of the day. Since she’s been with us, she has never once tried to leave. Maybe because we have a cat and she has a friend? Either way, she’s now mine. I’m over the moon. :D

211 Romantic Heretic  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 4:24:30pm

re: #4 darthstar

Damn…and I had five bucks on humanity being wiped out by an asteroid…

I suspect you’ll have trouble collecting on that if it should happen.

212 Eclectic Cyborg  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 4:24:40pm

Every time my cat has escaped, she’s stayed very close to the house, even times when she’s been out for hours on end.

I’m glad because I love her and wouldn’t want her running away from me.

213 thedopefishlives  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 4:24:51pm

re: #209 Gus

West Virginia chemical spill is worse than Hiroshima and Gov. Christie is worse than Nixon. Carry on my good sir.

Not often that I profess to my state of birth, but my heart goes out to my fellow Mountaineers. I don’t know anything about the chemical spill involved, is there any possibility of getting this cleared up in a non-lifetime-spanning time frame?

214 freetoken  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 4:24:52pm

This reminds me of what I observed today:

The local super-market chain has a sale on bag navel oranges, those monster things that are bigger than grapefruit with massive rinds and little flavor, and which come in red net bags. $5 for a bag.

I guess the buyers think they are getting a deal, but the local farmers sell much better fruit at the farmers markets around the county, and there are several such markets around the area.

But just like people who are addicted to McDonalds/BurgerKing/etc., these orange buyers have been programmed to buy on sight, not on flavor or quality.

I find the whole thing depressing, because when I talk to the local farmers they mention that traffic is down in some locales. People just aren’t buying the locally grown stuff, picked fresh. Rather, they want the packaged, fumigated, and waxed things in the market.

If people are unable or unwilling to distinguish the good from the crap, in what that they put in their mouth, why should we believe any different about what they put in their ears or in front of their eyes?

This I consider a symptom of the bigger problem we face, when looking at the deconstruction of society the glibertarian corporate types are advancing. A very small few will end up controlling a great deal of the wealth, while the masses are just programmed to do what they are told.

This probably sounds all elitist of me and what-not, but it’s what I’ve come to conclude after trying to swim upstream for many years.

215 Dr Lizardo  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 4:25:06pm

re: #192 Justanotherhuman

I just read about it in Wikipedia, and almost got sick. Absolutely beyond my imagination, totally.

Don’t know how you sat through it. What sick mind can think up “newborn porn”?

“A Serbian Film” is just ick.

Perhaps the director, Spasojević, liked to imagine he was making something like Pasolini’s “Salo”, but if that’s the case, he was either smoking some exceptionally powerful weed or snorting coke.

I can understand the point Pasolini was trying to make about the moral depravity of Fascism - it’s abundantly clear. I don’t understand what Spasojević was trying to do, aside from shock audiences.

The two things are not at all the same. It’s like with Gaspar Noe’s “Irreversible”, another difficult film to watch, yet it too makes it point about the consequences of revenge and violence.

“A Serbian Film” is just shock-porn.

216 Killgore Trout  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 4:25:23pm

re: #201 Gus

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Interesting to see a decline in Chicago, still pretty bad though. Everytime I see the rampant news coverage of a shooting involving white legal gun owners in a red state (like the movie theater shooting today, I always check Chicago for a bit of perspective. There’s a serious problem with gun crime in this country but not necessarily the one reflected in press coverage.

217 thedopefishlives  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 4:25:41pm

re: #210 Lidane

So not only did the Younger Feline Overlord’s original owner let us take her, but he gave us contact info for the vet he was taking her to AND he gave us $20 to cover the fee to change ownership on her microchip with the service he’s registered at. My mind = blown.

Funny thing is, he said when she lived with him, she had a habit of getting out and escaping, but coming back at the end of the day. Since she’s been with us, she has never once tried to leave. Maybe because we have a cat and she has a friend? Either way, she’s now mine. I’m over the moon. :D

Hooray for feline overlords and friendly owners.

218 Gus  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 4:25:54pm

re: #213 thedopefishlives

Not often that I profess to my state of birth, but my heart goes out to my fellow Mountaineers. I don’t know anything about the chemical spill involved, is there any possibility of getting this cleared up in a non-lifetime-spanning time frame?

Don’t know yet. Haven’t actually read anything trustworty yet coming out of West Virginia. The official line is that it’s clearing up. Not sure about a time frame.

219 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 4:26:01pm

*FACE PALM*

220 thedopefishlives  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 4:26:42pm

re: #218 Gus

Don’t know yet. Haven’t actually read anything trustworty yet coming out of West Virginia. The official line is that it’s clearing up. Not sure about a time frame.

Well, the official line was also that there wasn’t a problem, at least until people started getting sick.

221 darthstar  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 4:27:05pm

There are some people, who when you hear them say “zombie apocalypse”, make you think it’s entirely possible. It’s like, Yeah, I’d want to be on his team in the zombie apocalypse.

222 RealityBasedSteve  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 4:27:21pm

re: #190 Gus

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is that a commentary on the knife thread downstairs?

RBS

223 Killgore Trout  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 4:27:25pm

Anyone watching the awesome Christie bridge scandal epic special on MSNBC? I might even turn on my tv for this one.

224 ObserverArt  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 4:28:05pm

re: #82 darthstar

Cruz, Paul and Rubio have formed and alliance, but Christie has the immunity idol, so they can’t get rid of him. #Bridgegate #Survivor

Oh mah gawd…it is The Unholy Trinity!

999 upside down 666…Herman Cain was sent to prepare us for the beast.

225 Gus  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 4:28:12pm

re: #222 RealityBasedSteve

is that a commentary on the knife thread downstairs?

RBS

Missed that. Oh, wait. Forgot about that. Ha! Subliminal man!

226 Gus  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 4:28:53pm

re: #216 Killgore Trout

Interesting to see a decline in Chicago, still pretty bad though. Everytime I see the rampant news coverage of a shooting involving white legal gun owners in a red state (like the movie theater shooting today, I always check Chicago for a bit of perspective. There’s a serious problem with gun crime in this country but not necessarily the one reflected in press coverage.

America largely ignores black victims. Or in part. This just happened on the week of Christmas. First time I heard about it…

227 Eclectic Cyborg  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 4:29:27pm

re: #224 ObserverArt

Oh mah gawd…it is The Unholy Trinity!

I heard this in Jim Ross’ voice.
(pro wrestling commentator)

228 GlutenFreeJesus  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 4:30:20pm

re: #189 freetoken

Maybe fast-food franchises aren’t really needed for Homo sapiens after all?

They aren’t needed for anyone.

229 RealityBasedSteve  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 4:30:29pm

re: #210 Lidane

So not only did the Younger Feline Overlord’s original owner let us take her, but he gave us contact info for the vet he was taking her to AND he gave us $20 to cover the fee to change ownership on her microchip with the service he’s registered at. My mind = blown.

Funny thing is, he said when she lived with him, she had a habit of getting out and escaping, but coming back at the end of the day. Since she’s been with us, she has never once tried to leave. Maybe because we have a cat and she has a friend? Either way, she’s now mine. I’m over the moon. :D

RBS does the “happy dance” for Lidane. So it wasn’t a “sad-happy”, turns out that it’s a “Happy Happy”.

RBS

230 freetoken  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 4:30:38pm

re: #227 Eclectic Cyborg

I heard this in Jim Ross’ voice.
(pro wrestling commentator)

Apparently he’s signed a deal with Fox Sports now that he is no longer working for WWE. Apparently he’s going to be one of their college sports commentators.

231 Gus  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 4:30:40pm

re: #223 Killgore Trout

Anyone watching the awesome Christie bridge scandal epic special on MSNBC? I might even turn on my tv for this one.

I thought someone else came up with this new “theory.”

232 Romantic Heretic  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 4:31:20pm

re: #30 BusyMonster

Here’s the thing about Tony Perkins: he’s an insecure man-child crazier than a snake’s armpit.

FTFY.

233 freetoken  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 4:32:33pm

re: #228 GlutenFreeJesus

They aren’t needed for anyone.

I’m sure the Blattella germanica find them of value.

234 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 4:32:34pm

re: #214 freetoken

This reminds me of what I observed today:

The local super-market chain has a sale on bag navel oranges, those monster things that are bigger than grapefruit with massive rinds and little flavor, and which come in red net bags. $5 for a bag.

I guess the buyers think they are getting a deal, but the local farmers sell much better fruit at the farmers markets around the county, and there are several such markets around the area.

But just like people who are addicted to McDonalds/BurgerKing/etc., these orange buyers have been programmed to buy on sight, not on flavor or quality.

I find the whole thing depressing, because when I talk to the local farmers they mention that traffic is down in some locales. People just aren’t buying the locally grown stuff, picked fresh. Rather, they want the packaged, fumigated, and waxed things in the market.

>If people are unable or unwilling to distinguish the good from the crap, in what that they put in their mouth, why should we believe any different about what they put in their ears or in front of their eyes?

This I consider a symptom of the bigger problem we face, when looking at the deconstruction of society the glibertarian corporate types are advancing. A very small few will end up controlling a great deal of the wealth, while the masses are just programmed to do what they are told.

This probably sounds all elitist of me and what-not, but it’s what I’ve come to conclude after trying to swim upstream for many years.

I passed over 6 different bags of oranges at the supermarket today. They just didn’t “look” right. The last ones I got were from CA and were just “okay”. When I was a kid in Miami (back in the stone age), the oranges were pretty good. No navels, lots of juicy oranges with flavor, not those dyed orange things you see these days (the color was more yellow than orange). People used to order crates of Indian River oranges for xmas presents—it used to be a real treat to get one of those if you didn’t live there.

235 freetoken  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 4:32:58pm

re: #231 Gus

I thought someone else came up with this new “theory.”

TEACH THE CONTROVERSY!!

236 Gus  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 4:33:23pm

How many bridge scandal “theories” are we up to now? 3 or 4? I’m losing count. Even TPM is getting dibs on this new “alternate theory” trend. It’s weird. Never seen anything like this.

237 darthstar  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 4:33:59pm
238 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 4:34:20pm
239 RealityBasedSteve  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 4:35:55pm

re: #212 Eclectic Cyborg

Every time my cat has escaped, she’s stayed very close to the house, even times when she’s been out for hours on end.

I’m glad because I love her and wouldn’t want her running away from me.

When I lived in Tacoma, I had a Maine Coon Cat, who would occasionally go out when I was working in my little flower plot or something. One evening he got out while I was bringing in some groceries or something. By the time I realized he was missing it was an hour or two. I looked all over the Apt. complex calling him (he would come to the sound of his name), couldn’t find him. This was pre-microchip days, but he had a collar with his name and my phone number.

Went back home, started to make up some flyers. About that time the phone rang, and somebody asked “Do you own a cat named Sam?”. Turns out that he had gone to an apt on the other side of the complex and meowed and pawed at the door until they opened it. He just strolled in, ate some of their cat’s food, and was busy taking a nap.

I came down and collected him, he was pleased, but not overwhelmed to see me. I think he liked the food at the other place better.

RBS

240 Eclectic Cyborg  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 4:36:42pm

re: #230 freetoken

Apparently he’s signed a deal with Fox Sports now that he is no longer working for WWE. Apparently he’s going to be one of their college sports commentators.

He’ll do well with that, he’s a huge Sooners fan.

241 Kragar  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 4:39:25pm
242 Killgore Trout  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 4:41:00pm

re: #226 Gus

America largely ignores black victims. Or in part. This just happened on the week of Christmas. First time I heard about it…

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Sad story. I don’t think I’ve even heard a gunshot since I left Chicago 10 years ago. Fun city but it’s dangerous as hell.

243 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 4:41:10pm

HURR HURR

244 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 4:41:45pm

That meme doesn’t even make any sense, and is also racist.

245 thedopefishlives  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 4:42:43pm

re: #244 Pie-onist Overlord

That meme doesn’t even make any sense, and is also racist.

As are most of the right-wing memes.

246 ObserverArt  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 4:43:42pm

re: #102 Backwoods_Sleuth

Hurts my head, too.
I don’t go anywhere much anymore because CCW is really a thing here, and I know too many people here, who have their CCW permits, who I wouldn’t trust alone with sharp objects, much less loaded weapons.

And that is so sad isn’t it? They carry guns to make themselves safer from criminals and they make the same areas unsafer for everyone else.

How bad is the damn crime in your area? I know in Columbus it has been going down somewhat…as the city and area grows and grows.

And yes, I know there will be some who disagree. But I believe in the simple results of more guns, more chances for stupid shit, more injuries and deaths. Take the guns going off in the stores lately. Only going to get worse. These are humans (I hope, still in question in some cases) and we know what humans are cable of and not.

I still think the media share some responsibility for making a crime that happened three states over sound like it happened outside your very door. A great recent example…the knockout game coverage. It’s happening everywhere you know.

I remember how there was a carjacking, a drive-by shooting, a home invasion every day on the news when all of the terms were first being used. And many times the crimes were just crimes that happened before but now they had new fashionable names to beat us all over the head with.

Do not most FBI and even local and regional stats show crime going down for the last many years? That is in the not so good economic times too. How freaking low would they be if everyone had a chance for a good paying job and a few other social changes that might influence those stats.

247 lawhawk  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 4:44:31pm

re: #238 Backwoods_Sleuth

That’s such a great photo. It’s showing the USS Arizona steaming up the East River towards the Brooklyn Navy Yard. It’s between the Brooklyn and Manhattan Bridges with Lower Manhattan in the background.

The Woolworth Building is in the background; it’s the tallest building in the world at the time.

This is close to the same vista today.

248 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 4:44:35pm

HURR HURR
Hey idiot! This is what gas prices were during the Reign of Bush.

249 Killgore Trout  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 4:44:52pm

re: #236 Gus

How many bridge scandal “theories” are we up to now? 3 or 4? I’m losing count. Even EPM is getting dibs on this new “alternate theory” trend. It’s weird. Never seen anything like this.

I used to get frustrated with the press because they were slow and very shy about speculation. I guess I still don’t mind speculation but I think there might be a problem with influencing public opinion with theories that probably aren’t true.

250 thedopefishlives  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 4:48:26pm

re: #249 Killgore Trout

As I’ve mentioned before, the media are trying to stay ahead of the bloggers and the Twits by publishing early and often. The problem is that this comes at the expense of accuracy in reporting, so their credibility takes a hit in the process, basically making them no better than the “amateur media”.

251 Gus  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 4:48:46pm
252 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 4:49:39pm

re: #244 Pie-onist Overlord

That meme doesn’t even make any sense, and is also racist.

That’s the truth, and it makes me angry.

///

253 Eclectic Cyborg  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 4:50:08pm

re: #251 Gus

Wow, that looks older than ‘64.

254 aagcobb  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 4:50:23pm

re: #248 Pie-onist Overlord

HURR HURR
Hey idiot! This is what gas prices were during the Reign of Bush.

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Its amazing what will happen to gas prices when a massive global economic crisis crushes demand.

255 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 4:50:32pm

Wingnuts hear a bunch of lies on Faux Noise but they think IT TEH TROOF!!!11!!!!!

256 Gus  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 4:50:35pm

re: #253 Eclectic Cyborg

Wow, that looks older than ‘64.

It’s 1964.

257 b.d.  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 4:51:35pm

re: #248 Pie-onist Overlord

HURR HURR
Hey idiot! This is what gas prices were during the Reign of Bush.

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How much was their house worth then vs. today?

258 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 4:52:45pm

re: #257 b.d.

How much was their house worth then vs. today?

HURR HURR OBAMA RUINED MY CAREER OF HOUSE FLIPPING!!!!!1!!!!!

259 dog philosopher  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 4:52:46pm

re: #244 Pie-onist Overlord

That meme doesn’t even make any sense, and is also racist.

Strawman Liberal Manufacturing Still Growth Industry

easily beating Game of Thrones in fantasy universe genre

260 Killgore Trout  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 4:53:50pm

re: #250 thedopefishlives

As I’ve mentioned before, the media are trying to stay ahead of the bloggers and the Twits by publishing early and often. The problem is that this comes at the expense of accuracy in reporting, so their credibility takes a hit in the process, basically making them no better than the “amateur media”.

I think that’s true, the media are competing with twitter, bloggers and online media. I think rampant speculation might hurt old school news outlets like CNN, CBS, etc. but the partisan activist news networks have a built in audience that doesn’t care much about accuracy.
BTW, I’ve been thinking that 60 minutes has simply given up on credibility and are just going to run their show into the ground, cashing in while they can. Other mainstream outlets will probably do the same.

261 Hercules Grytpype-Thynneghazi  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 4:53:51pm

re: #248 Pie-onist Overlord

HURR HURR
Hey idiot! This is what gas prices were during the Reign of Bush.

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Yeah, the posted prices came in the middle of an economic crisis that had, at that point, cost something like 3 million Americans their jobs. Let’s have another crisis like that so we can have low prices again.

262 RealityBasedSteve  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 4:53:52pm

re: #254 aagcobb

Its amazing what will happen to gas prices when a massive global economic crisis crushes demand.

Crude Prices Adjusted for Inflation

263 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 4:54:02pm

Goddamnit, this is so wrong.

Ex-cops acquitted in beating death of homeless man in California

cnn.com

I hope this man’s family gets some justice from the Feds. That was nothing but police brutality.

264 Gus  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 4:55:51pm

This country is only getting started. This world. 1964 things were still a mess. Before that even more. Turn of the century, NYC was rather disgusting save for the wealthy. Slums and tenements everywhere. No building codes. People living in shacks. I remember still seeing people living in shacks when we traveled down south during the 70s. The Great Depression. We’re still recovering from the Great Depression and have effectively been largely using a war like economy to keep things working.

265 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 4:56:15pm

Kristen is so full of never-ending hilarious DERP (read the whole time line for hilarious hilarity)

266 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 4:57:32pm

re: #246 ObserverArt

Crime here is pretty much just illegal prescription drug related, the occasional burglary sprees (also related to prescription drug abuse), public intoxication, DWI and domestic violence.
We’re extremely rural (average population density is about 13 people per square mile), overwhelming white (99%) with 28.5% of the population below the poverty level.
Police and court reports in the local newspaper have the same names over and over and over.

267 Eclectic Cyborg  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 4:57:49pm

Libprogtard…wasn’t that something from the Hobbit movie?

268 Gus  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 4:57:51pm
269 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 4:57:55pm

WHAT IF THEY ARE ALREADY WORKING AT WALMART & MCD’S U MORONS

270 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 4:58:30pm

re: #251 Gus

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Lots of places here still look like that.

271 Gus  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 4:59:31pm
272 dog philosopher  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 5:00:40pm

re: #267 Eclectic Cyborg

Libprogtard…wasn’t that something from the Hobbit movie?

not Liptograd, the soviet City of Fats?

273 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 5:01:19pm

re: #264 Gus

This country is only getting started. This world. 1964 things were still a mess. Before that even more. Turn of the century, NYC was rather disgusting save for the wealthy. Slums and tenements everywhere. No building codes. People living in shacks. I remember still seeing people living in shacks when we traveled down south during the 70s. The Great Depression. We’re still recovering from the Great Depression and have effectively been largely using a war like economy to keep things working.

I saw outhouses in the early 1970s in Pineville, NC (now a BR community of Charlotte) and couldn’t believe it. You can still go into some of the rural areas around here and see awful poverty. Even around here, houses are abandoned and left to decay, with no oversight from the county about tearing down or ridding the neighborhoods of eyesores.

274 ObserverArt  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 5:01:24pm

re: #223 Killgore Trout

Anyone watching the awesome Christie bridge scandal epic special on MSNBC? I might even turn on my tv for this one.

If I were you I wouldn’t trust them as a legit source.

/// C’m’on Kilgore, you walked into that one.

////// I’m watching Bluejackets hockey, let me know how you like Maddow!

275 ObserverArt  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 5:02:59pm

re: #227 Eclectic Cyborg

I heard this in Jim Ross’ voice.
(pro wrestling commentator)

The trilateral brain ommision!!!

276 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 5:08:07pm

Snow White this is wrong HOW?

277 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 5:09:40pm
278 Amory Blaine  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 5:09:44pm

re: #196 Eclectic Cyborg

Clearly, we need more good guys with knives.

279 ObserverArt  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 5:10:10pm

re: #249 Killgore Trout

I used to get frustrated with the press because they were slow and very shy about speculation. I guess I still don’t mind speculation but I think there might be a problem with influencing public opinion with theories that probably aren’t true.

See #238…That ship has sailed!

Also the cat’s out of the bag and someone left the barn doors open.

Fun with old phrases, /

280 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 5:18:22pm
281 Charles Johnson  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 5:21:10pm

re: #237 darthstar

The thing is, Miles gave that look to everybody.

282 Gus  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 5:22:47pm

re: #281 Charles Johnson

The thing is, Miles gave that look to everybody.

I was gonna say.

283 Gus  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 5:23:16pm

re: #280 Justanotherhuman

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What in fuckity fuck? Just looked up this case. Yeesh.

Death of Kelly Thomas

284 dog philosopher  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 5:23:24pm

re: #281 Charles Johnson

The thing is, Miles gave that look to everybody.

is it true that miles lost his voice because he couldn’t stop himself from screaming at somebody during rehearsal right after he had had an operation on his vocal cords?

285 Gus  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 5:25:13pm
286 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 5:27:43pm

re: #283 Gus

What in fuckity fuck? Just looked up this case. Yeesh.

Death of Kelly Thomas

Yes, and a terrible miscarriage of justice today.

287 Charles Johnson  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 5:28:52pm

re: #284 dog philosopher

I believe that’s what Miles wrote in his autobiography, but who knows if it’s true. There’s also a rumor he was punched in the throat by someone he pissed off.

288 Gus  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 5:29:40pm

re: #286 Justanotherhuman

Yes, and a terrible miscarriage of justice today.

SNAFU.

289 Charles Johnson  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 5:30:02pm

I actually met Kenny G long before he hit it big, when he was playing sax with Jeff Lorber. They did a bunch of gigs opening for Stanley Clarke.

290 Charles Johnson  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 5:32:18pm

Yay! Finally worked out how to make the Image Library sorting work correctly, and show the most recently uploaded items at the top, using PHP’s very poorly documented SPL Iterator classes.

291 Charles Johnson  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 5:33:10pm
292 William Barnett-Lewis  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 5:35:20pm

re: #289 Charles Johnson

I actually met Kenny G long before he hit it big, when he was playing sax with Jeff Lorber. They did a bunch of gigs opening for Stanley Clarke.

He always struck me as a talented player even if I didn’t care for his style.

293 dog philosopher  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 5:37:05pm

re: #289 Charles Johnson

I actually met Kenny G long before he hit it big, when he was playing sax with Jeff Lorber. They did a bunch of gigs opening for Stanley Clarke.

i didn’t know that he was ever a jazz player

certainly on what cuts of his i’ve heard he doesn’t attempt to play anything like a jazz solo

294 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 5:39:29pm

Not to worry, TWC customers…

295 Gus  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 5:42:58pm
296 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 5:45:34pm

Well, some good news.

Senate confirms Obama’s final pick to serve on key federal court

washingtonpost.com

“Senators voted 55 to 43 to confirm Robert L. Wilkins to serve on the U.S. Court of Appeals for the D.C. Circuit, which is widely considered the second-most influential federal court in the nation because it handles most cases regarding White House activities and federal rules and regulations and often is a stepping stone for future Supreme Court justices.

“Wilkins joins Patricia Millett and Cornelia “Nina” Pillard as the most recent additions to the court. Another Obama nominee, Sri Srinivasan, joined the court in May. With those four picks now seated, Democratic appointees will hold a 7 to 4 majority on the bench.

(snip)

“The issue came to a head in November, when Republicans blocked consideration of Wilkins, Millett and Pillard and other Obama picks to lead federal agencies. In response, Senate Democrats voted to change Senate procedure so that only a majority of senators need to agree to end debate on a nominee. Previously, at least 60 votes were required in order to proceed to a confirmation vote.”

297 CuriousLurker  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 5:52:21pm

Just stopping by to drop off a couple of sanity check pics to help put things back in perspective and remind you what’s really important: feline overlords.

Meet Timmy. Timmy wants something and he wants it NOW, so stop screwing around with your stupid human stuff already.

Timmy the cat

More photos of Timmy
Photographer’s Flickr Photostream: zweiff

Also meet this guy, Stripes the Tomcat, who’s basically a honey badger:

Neighborhood Tomcat

A family several doors down from us has, over the years, taken in numerous neighborhood cats. Irresponsible neighbors from the surrounding streets frequently let their cats roam free and these particular neighbors have made a habit of putting out food for the wandering cats. Over the years, several of these cats have officially adopted them. The most notorious is this Tomcat, Stripes. He’s a huge male and likes to sun himself in the middle of the sidewalk in front of their house, refusing to move for anyone, people or dogs included. He’s really a nice guy, but has learned the power of intimidation over the years and clearly owns his patch of sidewalk. Twice daily, he also goes on walks with the patriarch of the family and the family dog. While the dog and owner make their way around the block, Stripes follows them closely, never lagging more than a few steps behind.

flickr.com

298 Amory Blaine  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 5:53:09pm

I use TW for Road Runner because around here it is the best available. Expensive, but I can use the full pipe with no data caps. Right now I’m at 50/5 for 65 a month. Not impressive upload speeds, but there’s nothing else available. They also recently started charging $7/month for the modem. So I’m going to buy one instead. It’s been a pretty rock solid connection for the last 15 years. I dropped their cable about 5 years ago.

299 bratwurst  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 5:53:44pm

Bill O’Reilly: Brit Hume “Was Right On” To Say Christie Seen As Bully In Today’s Feminized World

I guess REAL MASCULINE MEN like Bill don’t know the difference between a falafel and a loofah!

300 Gus  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 5:54:11pm

re: #297 CuriousLurker

Just stopping by to drop off a couple of sanity check pics to help put things back in perspective and remind you what’s really important: feline overlords.

Meet Timmy. Timmy wants something and he wants it NOW, so stop screwing around with your stupid human stuff already.

Timmy the cat

More photos of Timmy
Photographer’s Flickr Photostream: zweiff

Also meet this guy, Stripes the Tomcat, who’s basically a honey badger:

Timmy sure does take a lot of selfies. //

302 Charles Johnson  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 6:00:26pm

303 Political Atheist  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 6:04:24pm

re: #302 Charles Johnson

Depending on who you ask that’s either renewable energy or an eagle blender.

304 Kragar  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 6:07:10pm

re: #303 Political Atheist

Depending on who you ask that’s either renewable energy or an eagle blender.

It can be both.

305 b_sharp  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 6:09:57pm

re: #303 Political Atheist

Depending on who you ask that’s either renewable energy or an eagle blender.

Lots of eagle blenders and crow bludgeons out there, including every tall building.

306 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 6:11:21pm

Reeves has been charged with second-degree murder.

nbcmiami.com

307 Political Atheist  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 6:12:33pm

re: #304 Kragar

Yep. Thing is which is the bigger threat-Global warming and climate change or the blades?

308 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 6:15:22pm

This is the asshole who “won the right” to kill the black rhino in Namibia.

facebook.com

On Dec 24, he wrote:

“Tomorrow Morning. Someone’s Dream Hunt will come true. Thanks to all of you who Believe in our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. Please Post Your Dream Hunt because tomorrow morning your Dream may come true. Merry Christmas and God Bless You All.”

He gets a lot of hate comments.

He’s a pro:

outdoorchannel.com

309 simoom  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 6:16:33pm

Gates on his VP Biden denunciation (“in the wrong on nearly every major foreign policy and national security issue over the past four decades.”) He actually agreed with Biden on foreign policy during the Obama administration, and apparently that statement was all about various times Biden opposed GOP legislation dating back to at least the Reagan administration:

news.yahoo.com

Gates also stood by his withering criticism of Vice President Joe Biden, who he writes has been “in the wrong on nearly every major foreign policy and national security issue over the past four decades.”

Asked to name specifically what Biden had gotten wrong, Gates ticked off a litany of what he termed errors in judgment, including Biden’s vote against a bill granting aid to Vietnam in the aftermath of the war when Biden had first joined the Senate. He also criticized Biden’s opposition to several Reagan administration defense bills as well as to the first Gulf War.

Yet Gates also described Biden as a “stand-up guy” and acknowledged they had agreed on “almost every major foreign policy question that came before the Obama administration.”

And from his CBS book promotion interview, there was this anecdote:

cbsnews.com

“One time when I agreed with him on something — often Admiral Mullen, the Chairman of the Joint Chiefs, and I would ride back to the Pentagon together from the White House — and Mullen turned to me at one point [and] said, ‘You know that you agreed with the vice president this morning.’ And I said, ‘Yeah, that’s why I’m rethinking my position.’”

310 Gus  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 6:17:02pm

re: #305 b_sharp

Lots of eagle blenders and crow bludgeons out there, including every tall building.

Power Line Collisions and Electrocutions

311 jaunte  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 6:18:07pm
312 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 6:18:27pm

re: #306 Backwoods_Sleuth

Reeves has been charged with second-degree murder.

nbcmiami.com

And it’ll go hard on him. Ex-cops who are sent to prison generally have to be held in some type of protective custody, as too many prison inmates relish the chance to hurt or kill someone who used to wear a badge. They are generally housed separately from sex offenders, though, because even dirty cops tend to hate rapists with a passion.

313 Kragar  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 6:18:30pm

re: #307 Political Atheist

Yep. Thing is which is the bigger threat-Global warming and climate change or the blades?

Obviously the greatest threat is that they are an eyesore to Trump’s golf course

314 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 6:21:14pm

re: #313 Kragar

Obviously the greatest threat is that they are an eyesore to Trump’s golf course

That’s just the best funded argument.

315 Kragar  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 6:23:14pm

re: #314 Dark_Falcon

That’s just the best funded argument.

Which according to the Prosperity Gospel, means Jesus supports it

316 Gus  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 6:23:22pm
317 b_sharp  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 6:23:46pm

re: #307 Political Atheist

Yep. Thing is which is the bigger threat-Global warming and climate change or the blades?

That’s the problem. It’s also one reason I support intelligent use of nuke plants.

318 Single-handed sailor  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 6:24:22pm

re: #303 Political Atheist

Depending on who you ask that’s either renewable energy or an eagle blender.

I worked for US Windpower in 1983. We were trying to mitigate bird kills back then. 30 years later and still no solution. I’m not sure there is one.

/I don’t miss climbing the towers though.

319 b_sharp  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 6:24:42pm

re: #310 Gus

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Power Line Collisions and Electrocutions

We really do a number on the ecosystem.

320 Pie-onist Overlord  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 6:25:17pm

re: #313 Kragar

Obviously the greatest threat is that they are an eyesore to Trump’s golf course

They mess up his hair!

321 dog philosopher  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 6:25:45pm

re: #320 Pie-onist Overlord

They mess up his hair!

best explanation for it i’ve heard so far…

322 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 6:26:30pm

re: #315 Kragar

Which according to the Prosperity Gospel, means Jesus supports it

And I regard that Randian derivative of the Mandate of Heaven as foolish, shortsighted, and unchristian.

323 Political Atheist  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 6:27:19pm

re: #318 Single-handed sailor

I’d love to get permission to really photograph a wind farm. Which would include some shots from the top if I could get to. But they are very secure. And the couple times I tried to get permission it was not just no it was hella no.

324 Political Atheist  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 6:28:27pm

re: #319 b_sharp

Nuke power and underground lines. Costly but so is the status quo

325 b_sharp  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 6:28:30pm

re: #323 Political Atheist

I’d love to get permission to really photograph a wind farm. Which would include some shots from the top if I could get to. But they are very secure. And the couple times I tried to get permission it was not just no it was hella no.

Dress up as a chicken.

326 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 6:28:46pm

re: #323 Political Atheist

I’d love to get permission to really photograph a wind farm. Which would include some shots from the top if I could get to. But they are very secure. And the couple times I tried to get permission it was not just no it was hella no.

I photographed several windfarms when I was in Scotland, but it was always raining.
The turbines are really very impressive.

327 Kragar  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 6:30:16pm

re: #320 Pie-onist Overlord

They mess up his hair!

He should leave it in the box then.

328 b_sharp  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 6:30:46pm

re: #324 Political Atheist

Nuke power and underground lines. Costly but so is the status quo

I’m not going to feel the worst of AGW/CC but my grandkids will. That really saddens me. Especially since it’s all because of somebody’s pocket book.

329 b_sharp  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 6:31:14pm

re: #327 Kragar

He should leave it in the box then.

As long as the box has air holes.

330 RealityBasedSteve  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 6:31:50pm

re: #326 Backwoods_Sleuth

I photographed several windfarms when I was in Scotland, but it was always raining.
The turbines are really very impressive.

When I did the RAGBRAI (an annual ride of 10,000 cyclists across Iowa) I rode by wind turbines for miles and miles. I hadn’t realized how BIG they really were. For some reason I was thinking they weren’t industrial sized units. (which makes no sense, but I had never really thought about it). Wind, solar, Geothermal are all good sources, but I think in the long run we need nuclear, something like the latest generation of pebble bed reactors that are designed that if something fails, their default state is “not trying to turn into a molten mass of radioactive goo”.

RBS

331 Political Atheist  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 6:32:08pm

re: #328 b_sharp

As I get into my 5th decade I’d much rather advocate for those grandkids than be one of those “I got mine” insufferable assholes.

332 Justanotherhuman  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 6:32:29pm

More on that “hunt” of the black rhino.

Rhino Hunt Auction Stirs More Controversy

news.nationalgeographic.com

I condemn this kind of activity as “conservation”, but OTOH, I don’t think those people who are threatening others are in any way maintaining a higher “ethical” standard. In fact, their threats are pretty damned ridiculous, and in some cases, criminal.

333 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 6:37:29pm

re: #332 Justanotherhuman

More on that “hunt” of the black rhino.

Rhino Hunt Auction Stirs More Controversy

news.nationalgeographic.com

I condemn this kind of activity as “conservation”, but OTOH, I don’t think those people who are threatening others are in any way maintaining a higher “ethical” standard. In fact, their threats are pretty damned ridiculous, and in some cases, criminal.

Concur. Of course, the wingnuts aren’t defending the hunt because they’re a bit miffed: The wingnuts hoped this was a chance to hunt a RINO and they were dreaming of bagging Lindsey Graham.

334 Single-handed sailor  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 6:37:40pm

re: #323 Political Atheist

I’d love to get permission to really photograph a wind farm. Which would include some shots from the top if I could get to. But they are very secure. And the couple times I tried to get permission it was not just no it was hella no.

Windmills are very dangerous. They have to shut down rows of windmills before service personnel can even drive out to do any work on a machine. If a blade breaks free it can be thrown a half of a mile. They call that a LOBA (Loss of Blade Accident)

335 dog philosopher  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 6:44:37pm

re: #185 Lidane

In the ongoing derpfest of $15/HR MINIMUM WAGE = ROBOTS TAKING OVER:

DO YOU REALLY THINK MCDONALDS WILL BE PAYING BURGER FLIPPERS $15 PER HOUR?

i believe they have sold nearly one of these machines so far…

336 RealityBasedSteve  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 6:44:44pm

re: #334 Single-handed sailor

Windmills are very dangerous. They have to shut down rows of windmills before service personnel can even drive out to do any work on a machine. If a blade breaks free it can be thrown a half of a mile. They call that a LOBA (Loss of Blade Accident)

I would imagine that the whole tower would be in danger of collapse if that occurred, the unbalanced force rotating like that isn’t something that you can just damp out.

I’m no engineer, but I do know when the feces hits the fan.

RBS

337 andres  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 6:46:25pm

re: #333 Dark_Falcon

Concur. Of course, the wingnuts aren’t defending the hunt because they’re a bit miffed: The wingnuts hoped this was a chance to hunt a RINO and they were dreaming of bagging Lindsey Graham.

Hmmm… Graham is not black, AFAIK, and the permit is for a black RINO.

// Just sayin’. :P

338 RealityBasedSteve  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 6:48:28pm

re: #337 andres

Hmmm… Graham is not black, AFAIK, and the permit is for a black RINO.

// Just sayin’. :P

Oh, so they are going after Colin Powell?

RBS

339 Single-handed sailor  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 6:50:36pm

re: #336 RealityBasedSteve

I would imagine that the whole tower would be in danger of collapse if that occurred, the unbalanced force rotating like that isn’t something that you can just damp out.

I’m no engineer, but I do know when the feces hits the fan.

RBS

LOBAs can indeed result in a LOMA or LOTA.

340 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 6:52:14pm

re: #337 andres

Hmmm… Graham is not black, AFAIK, and the permit is for a black RINO.

// Just sayin’. :P

I didn’t want to bring in a race angle, because I worried about how it sounded and I didn’t want to anger any of my fellow lizards.

341 RealityBasedSteve  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 6:52:32pm

re: #339 Single-handed sailor

LOBAs can indeed result in a LOMA or LOTA.

Ok, I’m guessing that LOTA is Loss Of Tower Accident, but what is LOMA?

RBS

342 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 6:54:17pm

re: #341 RealityBasedSteve

Ok, I’m guessing that LOTA is Loss Of Tower Accident, but what is LOMA?

RBS

Loss of Money Accident?

343 dog philosopher  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 6:55:41pm

re: #341 RealityBasedSteve

Ok, I’m guessing that LOTA is Loss Of Tower Accident, but what is LOMA?

RBS

i know a town in california where you can pet a luma

344 Single-handed sailor  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 6:55:58pm

re: #341 RealityBasedSteve

Ok, I’m guessing that LOTA is Loss Of Tower Accident, but what is LOMA?

RBS

Loss of Machine Accident. The big box with the generator, transmission and blade pitch controls.

345 RealityBasedSteve  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 6:58:45pm

I redid one of the pens I did the other night. Didn’t like the rosewood with the grey satin finish, so I went rooting around in my supplies box and tried something different. This one I REALLY like.

I like this better.

I can’t bake, I can’t photoshop, but I can do crafts.

RBS

346 RealityBasedSteve  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 6:59:54pm

re: #344 Single-handed sailor

Loss of Machine Accident. The big box with the generator, transmission and blade pitch controls.

I know someone on the bicycling forum I’m on that was training to become a tech for wind turbine installations.

RBS

347 Backwoods_Sleuth  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 7:00:20pm

I’m thinking my cats could probably destroy the greenery in this before the day is finished…

348 ninja cat  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 7:03:26pm

re: #347 Backwoods_Sleuth

Two of mine are kittens, they could have it leveled within the hour.

349 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 7:04:23pm

re: #345 RealityBasedSteve

I redid one of the pens I did the other night. Didn’t like the rosewood with the grey satin finish, so I went rooting around in my supplies box and tried something different. This one I REALLY like.

I like this better.

I can’t bake, I can’t photoshop, but I can do crafts.

RBS

As beautiful a finish as a TAR-10.

Image: TAR-10wScopeinCase.jpg

350 RealityBasedSteve  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 7:09:47pm

re: #349 Dark_Falcon

As beautiful a finish as a TAR-10.

Image: TAR-10wScopeinCase.jpg

WOW… I love that case hardening. I’ve never seen colors like that. and that finish looks like an old fashioned hand rubbed linseed oil type finish. It sure didn’t come out of a rattle can of poly.

I can’t imagine what it’s like to do engraving like that too. You’re hitting a tiny chisel with a hammer and each stroke takes out a tiny shaving of metal. It’s not like you can grab an eraser and fix it. (sort of like how you don’t ever what to hear your tattoo guy say “How did you say you spelled that?”)

RBS

RBS

351 ninja cat  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 7:11:39pm

A very white man can’t dance .

352 Killgore Trout  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 7:15:16pm

Open world zombie survival game from one of the makers of Gary’s Mod
Youtube Video

353 simoom  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 7:17:01pm

re: #309 simoom

Huh, glancing at my post again I actually misread and mis-summarized that bolded Gates quote. He actually said the opposite of what I thought. Here’s his full line from the Couric interview:

“The truth is, except on Afghanistan, the Vice President and I agreed on almost every major foreign policy question that came before the Obama administration.”

He then goes on to explain his Biden broadside from the book with a long list of foreign policy & legislative disagreements he had with Biden from when Gates served in Republican administrations and Biden was a Senator.

354 simoom  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 7:19:36pm

re: #353 simoom

Wait, “came before” could be read as came in front of, instead of prior to. I think I maybe had it right the first time as then it’s more consistent with the rest of what he said… :P *shrug*

355 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 7:22:29pm

re: #350 RealityBasedSteve

WOW… I love that case hardening. I’ve never seen colors like that. and that finish looks like an old fashioned hand rubbed linseed oil type finish. It sure didn’t come out of a rattle can of poly.

I can’t imagine what it’s like to do engraving like that too. You’re hitting a tiny chisel with a hammer and each stroke takes out a tiny shaving of metal. It’s not like you can grab an eraser and fix it. (sort of like how you don’t ever what to hear your tattoo guy say “How did you say you spelled that?”)

RBS

RBS

It’s got a price to match the workmanship: $5,000. but for that your get a work of art that is also highly accurate.

BTW: I highlighted the 7.62mm Turnbull instead of the 5.56mm TAR-15 because I feel the .30caliber rifle is a better platform for elegance. 5.56mm has been sullied a bit by lunatics and wingnuts and its more a close range round, too. 7.62mm, though, is a good round for distance shooting and for hunting.

356 b_sharp  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 7:22:52pm

re: #331 Political Atheist

As I get into my 5th decade I’d much rather advocate for those grandkids than be one of those “I got mine” insufferable assholes.

Closing in on my 6th, my grandkids have become most important.

357 Gus  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 7:23:50pm

re: #355 Dark_Falcon

It’s got a price to match the workmanship: $5,000. but for that your get a work of art that is also highly accurate.

BTW: I highlighted the 7.62mm Turnbull instead of the 5.56mm TAR-15 because I feel the .30caliber rifle is a better platform for elegance. 5.56mm has been sullied a bit by lunatics and wingnuts and its more a close range round, too. 7.62mm, though, is a good round for distance shooting and for hunting.

$136,024

358 b_sharp  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 7:24:10pm

re: #345 RealityBasedSteve

I redid one of the pens I did the other night. Didn’t like the rosewood with the grey satin finish, so I went rooting around in my supplies box and tried something different. This one I REALLY like.

I like this better.

I can’t bake, I can’t photoshop, but I can do crafts.

RBS

Really nice job.
Making good money from them?

359 b_sharp  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 7:24:49pm

re: #345 RealityBasedSteve

I redid one of the pens I did the other night. Didn’t like the rosewood with the grey satin finish, so I went rooting around in my supplies box and tried something different. This one I REALLY like.

I like this better.

I can’t bake, I can’t photoshop, but I can do crafts.

RBS

Is that a piece of oak behind it?

Does oak make good pens?

360 b_sharp  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 7:26:12pm

re: #350 RealityBasedSteve

WOW… I love that case hardening. I’ve never seen colors like that. and that finish looks like an old fashioned hand rubbed linseed oil type finish. It sure didn’t come out of a rattle can of poly.

I can’t imagine what it’s like to do engraving like that too. You’re hitting a tiny chisel with a hammer and each stroke takes out a tiny shaving of metal. It’s not like you can grab an eraser and fix it. (sort of like how you don’t ever what to hear your tattoo guy say “How did you say you spelled that?”)

RBS

RBS

Have you ever used titanium and coloured it with electrolysis?

361 Charles Johnson  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 7:27:15pm
362 GlutenFreeJesus  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 7:27:24pm

re: #94 Backwoods_Sleuth

gaaaaaaaah……

Family Sues Omaha Police Department After Parking Ticket Home Raid

It all goes downhill after that…

That shit makes me so sad, and angry.

363 b_sharp  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 7:27:30pm

Who left all the damn wine bottles laying around here?

You guys are supposed to clean up after yourselves.

364 RealityBasedSteve  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 7:29:20pm

re: #358 b_sharp

Really nice job.
Making good money from them?

It’s a hobby, make 100-200 a month from it, I’m trying to find a good location to put some in, either as a straight supplier, or if they wanted to eliminate any risk, on a consignment basis. There isn’t really any stores or shops here where I live that are a good match for them.

RBS

365 sagehen  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 7:31:02pm

re: #364 RealityBasedSteve

It’s a hobby, make 100-200 a month from it, I’m trying to find a good location to put some in, either as a straight supplier, or if they wanted to eliminate any risk, on a consignment basis. There isn’t really any stores or shops here where I live that are a good match for them.

RBS

Try etsy.com

366 RealityBasedSteve  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 7:31:42pm

re: #359 b_sharp

Is that a piece of oak behind it?

Does oak make good pens?

Yep, that’s piece of oak from home depot. I’ve got a pen I carry often that is home depot oak.

re: #360 b_sharp

Have you ever used titanium and coloured it with electrolysis?

I’ve used hardware that was either a black Ti or gold colored Ti. Nitrate. Both are great finishes, super durable. Never tried doing electrolysis.

RBS

367 b_sharp  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 7:31:45pm

re: #364 RealityBasedSteve

It’s a hobby, make 100-200 a month from it, I’m trying to find a good location to put some in, either as a straight supplier, or if they wanted to eliminate any risk, on a consignment basis. There isn’t really any stores or shops here where I live that are a good match for them.

RBS

Good stuff. I’m looking for a retirement project that will give me extra cash.

Your crazy glue trick is pretty cool. Guitar repair uses it too, even adding colour before application.

368 RealityBasedSteve  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 7:32:18pm

re: #365 sagehen

Try etsy.com

Click on my name :)

RBS

369 palomino  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 7:32:48pm

re: #201 Gus

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Those are just facts. It’s much more important to be afraid of people all the time, especially blacks, for things that were much worse 30 years ago.

370 b_sharp  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 7:36:29pm

re: #366 RealityBasedSteve

Yep, that’s piece of oak from home depot. I’ve got a pen I carry often that is home depot oak.

I’ve used hardware that was either a black Ti or gold colored Ti. Nitrate. Both are great finishes, super durable. Never tried doing electrolysis.

RBS

Anodizing aluminum and coloring Ti are similar processes in how they use electricity and an acid to modify their colours.

Ever tried using aluminum and anodizing it?
Aluminum cuts much like wood.

371 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 7:38:16pm

re: #361 Charles Johnson

Mattel’s new M-16 Marauder. (1967)

Where’d you find that ad?

372 b_sharp  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 7:38:44pm

re: #366 RealityBasedSteve

Yep, that’s piece of oak from home depot. I’ve got a pen I carry often that is home depot oak.

RBS

I have quite a bit of wood like cherry, maple, bird’s eye maple, alder, birch, oak, pine, spruce laying around.

373 Political Atheist  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 7:43:24pm

Well kinda screwed up mah dinner. Hot dog buns frozen solid. Nathans dog all cooked up. Tomato pickle mustard etc.

So I wind up with a NY dog (Nathans) done in Chicago trim but on a toasted english muffin. It’s my diversity dog. ///

374 b_sharp  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 7:45:52pm

re: #373 Political Atheist

Well kinda screwed up mah dinner. Hot dog buns frozen solid. Nathans dog all cooked up. Tomato pickle mustard etc.

So I wind up with a NY dog (Nathans) done in Chicago trim but on a toasted english muffin. It’s my diversity dog. ///

Hey, whatever works.

375 palomino  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 7:47:30pm

re: #312 Dark_Falcon

And it’ll go hard on him. Ex-cops who are sent to prison generally have to be held in some type of protective custody, as too many prison inmates relish the chance to hurt or kill someone who used to wear a badge. They are generally housed separately from sex offenders, though, because even dirty cops tend to hate rapists with a passion.

He’s a 71-year old ex-cop. I seriously doubt if he’s gonna be housed with 22-year old murderers looking for someone to toss their salads.

But your concern for his welfare is duly noted…and weird.

376 Romantic Heretic  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 7:54:51pm

re: #338 RealityBasedSteve

Oh, so they are going after Colin Powell?

RBS

They might find that a rather difficult hunt. Like hunting bandersnatchi on Jinx.

377 GlutenFreeJesus  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 7:55:38pm

re: #312 Dark_Falcon

And it’ll go hard on him. Ex-cops who are sent to prison generally have to be held in some type of protective custody, as too many prison inmates relish the chance to hurt or kill someone who used to wear a badge. They are generally housed separately from sex offenders, though, because even dirty cops tend to hate rapists with a passion.

He should have thought about that before he killed a guy texting during movie previews.

378 RealityBasedSteve  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 7:56:22pm

re: #375 palomino

He’s a 71-year old ex-cop. I seriously doubt if he’s gonna be housed with 22-year old murderers looking for someone to toss their salads.

But your concern for his welfare is duly noted…and weird.

I don’t think the concern is weird. When the state takes the step of taking somebody’s liberty away and confining them, they SHOULD also take the responsibility of providing for that individual’s basic safety and medical needs. I don’t care what crime a person committed, the sentence didn’t include rape and physical abuse. I’m a believer in punishment when deemed necessary, but it’s the state that should administer it.

Truth is that a cop would, by definition, be a target in prison. The state has a responsibility to maintain, at a minimum, his personal safety. If that requires segregation from the general population in the prison, so be it.

RBS

379 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 7:57:59pm

re: #345 RealityBasedSteve

I redid one of the pens I did the other night. Didn’t like the rosewood with the grey satin finish, so I went rooting around in my supplies box and tried something different. This one I REALLY like.

I like this better.

I can’t bake, I can’t photoshop, but I can do crafts.

RBS

Beautimus!

380 Charles Johnson  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 7:58:42pm

re: #371 Dark_Falcon

Where’d you find that ad?

It’s the back cover of this DC comic:

381 Romantic Heretic  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 8:01:16pm

re: #361 Charles Johnson

Mattel’s new M-16 Marauder. (1967)

I had one of those when I was a kid.

But this was my favourite toy gun. I’m amazed I didn’t suffer any hearing damage.

Youtube Video

382 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 8:02:53pm

re: #375 palomino

He’s a 71-year old ex-cop. I seriously doubt if he’s gonna be housed with 22-year old murderers looking for someone to toss their salads.

But your concern for his welfare is duly noted…and weird.

I was just noting what is liable to happen to the man. Unless he is shown to have become mentally incompetent (which at 71 is a possibility), thenI have no sympathy for him. In his rage he violated the law he once swore to uphold.

All that said, Florida law does not provide for the death penalty for his crime, so I do not wish to see him killed in prison. My only concern where he is concerned is that justice be done.

383 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 8:03:59pm

re: #380 Charles Johnson

It’s the back cover of this DC comic:

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Wow. I didn’t even know that bob Hope had a line of comic books.

384 Gus  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 8:04:06pm
385 RealityBasedSteve  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 8:04:20pm

re: #380 Charles Johnson

It’s the back cover of this DC comic:

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FWIW Charles. I always enjoyed it before when you did a little bit of the history / backstory on the comics you posted. /shameless_suckup_mode

RBS

386 Gus  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 8:05:58pm

“I can’t believe I got shot…”

387 RealityBasedSteve  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 8:07:05pm

re: #381 Romantic Heretic

I had one of those when I was a kid.

But this was my favourite toy gun. I’m amazed I didn’t suffer any hearing damage.

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Oh lordy, that puts me in the wayback machine. I had this one…

Youtube Video

RBS

388 FemNaziBitch  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 8:08:16pm

re: #375 palomino

He’s a 71-year old ex-cop. I seriously doubt if he’s gonna be housed with 22-year old murderers looking for someone to toss their salads.

But your concern for his welfare is duly noted…and weird.

The point being that he is still a human being. Crime does not change a person in to a thing to be abused for revenge or justice or any other reason.

He has basic rights —if convicted those cannot be taken away. He will lose the right to vote, freedom of movement and many others, but not food, clothing, shelter and medical care.

389 darthstar  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 8:17:40pm
390 darthstar  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 8:18:21pm

JFCRAC might make a good hashtag on Twitter.

391 Ryan King  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 8:22:33pm

re: #389 darthstar

392 RealityBasedSteve  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 8:23:39pm

re: #391 Ryan King

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“What finished with a higher GPA than Jim Hoff?”

RBS

393 Amory Blaine  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 8:25:25pm

What a stupid man down in Florida. Being retired and going to the movies must suck. All of that oppressive leisure time got in the way of his liberty.

394 Amory Blaine  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 8:26:27pm

re: #391 Ryan King

Even dumber than that box of hammers.

395 darthstar  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 8:26:54pm
396 Bubblehead II  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 8:28:06pm

re: #336 RealityBasedSteve

I would imagine that the whole tower would be in danger of collapse if that occurred, the unbalanced force rotating like that isn’t something that you can just damp out.

I’m no engineer, but I do know when the feces hits the fan.

RBS

When they do fail, They fail spectactually ……

Youtube Video

397 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 8:28:48pm

re: #389 darthstar

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Auctioning off a rifle in Lincoln’s honor would make sense, since he actually shot them. Auctioning any type of gun in Dr. king’s honor is inappropriate, given his belief in non-violence. It’s OK to disagree with that belief, but the fact that he sincerely held it should be respected.

But to invite Raphael Cruz as the keynote speaker of an event means the inviters are much worse than clueless: It’s means they are willing enablers of the Bad Craziness.

398 darthstar  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 8:29:45pm

re: #397 Dark_Falcon

Both were assassinated. End of discussion.

399 wrenchwench  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 8:31:47pm
400 Ryan King  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 8:38:24pm

re: #398 darthstar

Both were assassinated. End of discussion.

No, now it’s the end of the discussion.

No.. now.

Now.

Shut it.

401 Gus  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 8:38:27pm


Yet another stabbing death. Followed by a suicide.

402 darthstar  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 8:38:31pm

Never apply for a job on a telephone pole, no matter how many ways they spell ‘career’ wrong.

403 Gus  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 8:39:02pm
404 RealityBasedSteve  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 8:41:38pm

re: #402 darthstar

Never apply for a job on a telephone pole, no matter how many ways they spell ‘career’ wrong.

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and if just spelling career wrong were their only problem.

RBS

405 darthstar  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 8:44:17pm
406 wrenchwench  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 8:47:28pm
407 Kragar  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 8:48:50pm

408 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 8:49:42pm

re: #405 darthstar

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409 Gus  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 8:50:30pm

re: #405 darthstar

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410 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 8:51:50pm

re: #407 Kragar

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A space marine riding a Warg, will wonders never cease?

/I know its not a Warg, it’s my riff on GW.

411 Gus  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 8:51:52pm

re: #408 Dark_Falcon

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412 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 8:52:42pm

re: #411 Gus

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Retweeted.

413 Kragar  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 8:53:17pm

re: #410 Dark_Falcon

A space marine riding a Warg, will wonders never cease?

/I know its not a Warg, it’s my riff on GW.

From hell’s heart, I stab at thee…

414 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 8:54:07pm

re: #413 Kragar

From hell’s heart, I stab at thee…

Kragar Ahab.

415 RealityBasedSteve  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 8:54:42pm

re: #407 Kragar

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Those are great. When I did minitures back in the DnD days, I favored “Ford Engine Block Blue”. I think your’s are better.

I know you were going to post some onto a forum for their feedback. How was that?

EDIT: and how tall is a typical figurine?
RBS

416 Kragar  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 8:57:21pm

re: #415 RealityBasedSteve

Those are great. When I did minitures back in the DnD days, I favored “Ford Engine Block Blue”. I think your’s are better.

I know you were going to post some onto a forum for their feedback. How was that?

EDIT: and how tall is a typical figurine?
RBS

The average human figure is about 1” tall. I haven’t heard back from the forum yet.

417 Gus  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 8:57:45pm

re: #412 Dark_Falcon

Retweeted.

Some reporter for the Detroit Free Press made an incest joke about WV. Something about water safety going back to normal so “now they can go back to incest.”

418 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 9:00:47pm

re: #417 Gus

Some reporter for the Detroit Free Press made an incest joke about WV. Something about water safety going back to normal so “now they can go back to incest.”

Those sorts of things are rotten to say. I know Steven Colbert isn’t a malicious man, but what he said was still rotten to say. He should apologize.

Edited.

419 Gus  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 9:02:49pm

re: #418 Dark_Falcon

Those osrts of things are rotten to say. I know Steven Colbert isn’t a malicious man, but what he said was still rotten to say. He should apologize.

Yeah. I think he still has comedic license as opposed to a reporter. If that makes sense. Anyway, if these people think they’re FREE to say as they please then I’m FREE to call them on it.

420 Killgore Trout  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 9:05:19pm

re: #418 Dark_Falcon

Those osrts of things are rotten to say. I know Steven Colbert isn’t a malicious man, but what he said was still rotten to say. He should apologize.

Normally I don’t think comedians should apologize for jokes but Colbert and Stewart are in a grey area, a lot of people consider them journalists/commentators which is a bit different.

421 palomino  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 9:07:30pm

re: #378 RealityBasedSteve

I don’t think the concern is weird. When the state takes the step of taking somebody’s liberty away and confining them, they SHOULD also take the responsibility of providing for that individual’s basic safety and medical needs. I don’t care what crime a person committed, the sentence didn’t include rape and physical abuse. I’m a believer in punishment when deemed necessary, but it’s the state that should administer it.

Truth is that a cop would, by definition, be a target in prison. The state has a responsibility to maintain, at a minimum, his personal safety. If that requires segregation from the general population in the prison, so be it.

RBS

Yeah, that’s why I wrote the first paragraph I did. Putting a 71-year old in with a bunch of 18-35 year olds, also convicted of violent crimes, is probably a bad idea, period. Whether the elderly prisoner is a cop or not.

I’m not trying to minimize the suffering of inmates. My opinion is quite the opposite: we have far too many people locked up, often for far too long, and often for things that shouldn’t be crimes…often in inhumane conditions. And our society treats them—during and often AFTER incarceration—like human garbage, which is both immoral and counterproductive.

As for the shooter, his actions are just so outrageous and disproportional to the “threat” he faced that I can’t muster any particular concern for him at the moment. More concerned with his young wife and now fatherless kid.

422 Dark_Falcon  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 9:13:05pm

re: #421 palomino

Yeah, that’s why I wrote the first paragraph I did. Putting a 71-year old in with a bunch of 18-35 year olds, also convicted of violent crimes, is probably a bad idea, period. Whether the elderly prisoner is a cop or not.

I’m not trying to minimize the suffering of inmates. My opinion is quite the opposite: we have far too many people locked up, often for far too long, and often for things that shouldn’t be crimes…often in inhumane conditions. And our society treats them—during and often AFTER incarceration—like human garbage, which is both immoral and counterproductive.

As for the shooter, his actions are just so outrageous and disproportional to the “threat” he faced that I can’t muster any particular concern for him at the moment. More concerned with his young wife and now fatherless kid.

On that bolded part I agree entirely. And there won’t be a claim of self-defense if this goes to trial, since the judge won’t allow it. The man left the theater and then came back. Under any state’s law that is considered “voluntarily reentering the zone of danger” and it voids claims of self-defense,

423 palomino  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 9:14:17pm

re: #418 Dark_Falcon

Those osrts of things are rotten to say. I know Steven Colbert isn’t a malicious man, but what he said was still rotten to say. He should apologize.

Is your goal to drain ALL of the laughter from comedy?

We make jokes about EVERY region of the country, from Florida with all its fucked up crimes and weird daily goings-on to Alaska, with its alcohol and meth, to violent big cities (Chicago and Detroit, for example) to rural areas (WV and MS, for example) due to their particular problems.

Should ALL of this stop because sometimes people are offended when THEIR region is the butt of the joke? I live in southern California, I love it here; but I would hate like hell if comedians felt like they couldn’t make fun of it anymore.

424 Gus  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 9:15:06pm
425 palomino  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 9:17:01pm

re: #420 Killgore Trout

Normally I don’t think comedians should apologize for jokes but Colbert and Stewart are in a grey area, a lot of people consider them journalists/commentators which is a bit different.

It’s not a gray area. It’s on Comedy Central, a network with no actual news programs. No one with an IQ above 40 thinks that Stewart or Colbert are real journalists. It’s clearly a thing called satire, and it’s been around forever. Even before SNL gave Stewart and Colbert the blueprints for their shows.

426 Gus  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 9:17:49pm

re: #423 palomino

Is your goal to drain ALL of the laughter from comedy?

We make jokes about EVERY region of the country, from Florida with all its fucked up crimes and weird daily goings-on to Alaska, with its alcohol and meth, to violent big cities (Chicago and Detroit, for example) to rural areas (WV and MS, for example) due to their particular problems.

Should ALL of this stop because sometimes people are offended when THEIR region is the butt of the joke? I live in southern California, I love it here; but I would hate like hell if comedians felt like they couldn’t make fun of it anymore.

So if there was an earthquake in San Francisco it would be OK to make jokes about San Francisco right after the earthquake? And no one would say anything? I seriously doubt that.

427 Gus  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 9:19:52pm

And we’re supposed to win over West Virginians with this?

428 Gus  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 9:20:10pm
429 Gus  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 9:25:17pm

“Hey, it’s really too bad about your chemical spill. Had you been voting for Republicans this probably wouldn’t have happened. If you vote for Democrats they’ll help strengthen regulations to prevent this. Hope you enjoy your OBAMA WATER being delivered to you by SOCIALIST TRUCK. Oh, and by the way. You’re all a bunch of inbred, incestuous, redneck meth heads with barely a high school education. OK, that’s just a joke. Come on man, laugh.”

430 Gus  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 9:28:24pm

Charles Darwin married his first cousin, Emma Wedgwood.

431 Gus  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 9:28:55pm

“Albert Einstein and his first cousin (through his mother) and second cousin (through his father), Elsa Löwenthal née Einstein.”

432 palomino  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 9:30:36pm

re: #426 Gus

So if there was an earthquake in San Francisco it would be OK to make jokes about San Francisco right after the earthquake? And no one would say anything? I seriously doubt that.

How many documented deaths have there been in WV? It’s not like Colbert is dancing and laughing on the graves of thousands of people who just died yesterday.

Also, if you listen to Colbert’s piece in context, you’ll realize he’s clearly ridiculing the people in charge who let this happen. Not the poor residents who have to suffer.

We have earthquakes here in Cali, somewhere at least, on an almost weekly basis. Unless they’re huge and people die, yes, we and others joke about them. And nobody freaks out unless corpses are the butt of the joke.

433 palomino  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 9:40:55pm

re: #429 Gus

“Hey, it’s really too bad about your chemical spill. Had you been voting for Republicans this probably wouldn’t have happened. If you vote for Democrats they’ll help strengthen regulations to prevent this. Hope you enjoy your OBAMA WATER being delivered to you by SOCIALIST TRUCK. Oh, and by the way. You’re all a bunch of inbred, incestuous, redneck meth heads with barely a high school education. OK, that’s just a joke. Come on man, laugh.”

Comedy is about context.

Study George Carlin, Louis CK, Richard Pryor, Lenny Bruce and Bill Hicks for valuable lessons.

434 goddamnedfrank  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 9:44:05pm

re: #432 palomino

How many documented deaths have there been in WV? It’s not like Colbert is dancing and laughing on the graves of thousands of people who just died yesterday.

Also, if you listen to Colbert’s piece in context, you’ll realize he’s clearly ridiculing the people in charge who let this happen. Not the poor residents who have to suffer.

We have earthquakes here in Cali, somewhere at least, on an >almost weekly basis. Unless they’re huge and people die, yes, we and others joke about them. And nobody freaks out unless corpses are the butt of the joke.

Also, there is an ironic component to the WV spill, a region whose main industry and politics are driven heavily by abject hatred of regulation having its water supply poisoned as a result of irresponsible and poorly regulated private industry. This was a human disaster caused by human greed and stupidity, you can’t really compare it to a natural disaster like an earthquake, hurricane or tornado.

435 BeenHereAwhile  Mon, Jan 13, 2014 10:43:51pm

re: #55 FemNaziBitch

It must be a guy thing, I never got that movie.

Well, I liked the dueling banjos.

Here’s one of our artists, Martin Mull’s cover of Dueling Banjos:

Youtube Video

436 Lancelot Link  Tue, Jan 14, 2014 2:01:10am

re: #420 Killgore Trout

Colbert grew up in S. Carolina. I think he’s entitled to make jokes about the South.

437 Decatur Deb  Tue, Jan 14, 2014 3:04:20am

re: #428 Gus

John F. Kennedy campaigning in Logan County, West Virginia (1960)

Is the kid behind JFK holding a toy pistol to his mouth?


(And the photo sequences of the Turnbull ARs would be more impressive if they didn’t have magazines in the wells and the safeties on ‘Fire”.)

438 Swift2991  Tue, Jan 14, 2014 3:23:50pm

I heard of this study I’m now trying to find. The experiment was to find people who expressed homophobic thoughts, and those who didn’t. So they sat them down wired up, and showed them gay porn. Guess which ones experienced tumescence? Yeah, you’re right.

439 Swift2991  Tue, Jan 14, 2014 3:28:15pm

ncbi.nlm.nih.gov

It’s real, and it seems legit.

440 Swift2991  Wed, Jan 15, 2014 3:52:04pm

About the polling of whites on marriages between blacks and whites— My parents were pretty liberal, and what they got stuck on was, “How will they raise children with all the hate around?” In 1958, the hate and fear was so astronomically high that it’s difficult difficult to understand a poll number like that. It probably included a lot of people like my parents, who if you pushed them would say, “Sure, they have a right,” but really had no way of imagining that it would be real. For 100 years before, Jim Crow and its noxious influence had been normal. My dad was a druggist during the war, and he got a job in South Carolina running a store. So we went — well, that’s where I arrived six months later. His job was running the store, being the chief druggist for the whites, and, as Doc Beasely, the kindly old doctor who owned the drug store said, “Doctor to the blacks,” but he didn’t use the word “blacks.” They’d line up in the back of the store every day, and he’d “prescribe” and put in stitches and so on. Doc Beasely wouldn’t touch them. The social system put you in that deep freeze. It took a long time to thaw.


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