1 | Stanley Sea May 3, 2014 5:28:32pm |
@JeffersonObama @MeghanMcCain Deleted, it must have been good!
— Steve Dowdy (@Steverocks35) May 4, 2014
@JeffersonObama @Steverocks35 Or he yelled “get off my table” to someone.
— gcoat (@coat_gs) May 4, 2014
2 | Charles Johnson May 3, 2014 5:30:30pm |
The NBC News feed is good - no yammering anchor-things, just the raw feed. I actually find this unedited stuff more interesting than the main event sometimes.
4 | Stanley Sea May 3, 2014 5:33:10pm |
I’m helping CSPAN to their biggest viewership of the year.
5 | Charles Johnson May 3, 2014 5:33:41pm |
Let's hope they remembered to check for Medea Benjamin http://t.co/hcDIo7HnIi— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) May 4, 2014
7 | Stanley Sea May 3, 2014 5:36:15pm |
8 | sattv4u2 May 3, 2014 5:37:08pm |
re: #6 darthstar
Mmm…watching reporters eat.
each other?
Is this a LOST episode???
Those CANNIBALS!!!
9 | jaunte May 3, 2014 5:37:09pm |
Reference for everyone else who never heard of Joel McHale before tonight:
en.wikipedia.org
10 | sattv4u2 May 3, 2014 5:38:14pm |
11 | Stanley Sea May 3, 2014 5:38:21pm |
re: #9 jaunte
Reference for everyone else who never heard of Joel McHale before tonight:
en.wikipedia.org
The Soup? I remember that.
12 | Stanley Sea May 3, 2014 5:38:51pm |
re: #7 Stanley Sea
I think she’s at Rutgers?
nope
.@codepink on our way to #CorrespondentsDinner pic.twitter.com/cUmKG54k2l
— Medea Benjamin (@medeabenjamin) May 3, 2014
13 | ninja cat May 3, 2014 5:39:01pm |
re: #1 Stanley Sea
Wonder if it was the link to this not so great pic?
instagram.com
14 | sattv4u2 May 3, 2014 5:39:25pm |
15 | Stanley Sea May 3, 2014 5:40:07pm |
re: #13 ninja cat
Wonder if it was the link to this not so great pic?
instagram.com
Awww maybe? It is what it is.
17 | sattv4u2 May 3, 2014 5:40:52pm |
re: #13 ninja cat
Wonder if it was the link to this not so great pic?
instagram.com
Snapped in mid blink
I have a drawer full of old polaroids that never made it in to albums because someone in the photo was like that
18 | Stanley Sea May 3, 2014 5:41:22pm |
Michelle Obama has the best seat. Potus…..he has to make talk with the correspondence dinner guy.
19 | Charles Johnson May 3, 2014 5:42:37pm |
21 | Stanley Sea May 3, 2014 5:43:47pm |
re: #17 sattv4u2
Snapped in mid blink
I have a drawer full of old polaroids that never made it in to albums because someone in the photo was like that
PIMF
23 | Killgore Trout May 3, 2014 5:44:38pm |
re: #19 Charles Johnson
Uh oh.
They’re just ranting on the street like idiots. It’s what they do
We are outside #CorrespondentsDinner seeing gross comingling of “objective press” w politicos & celebs pic.twitter.com/ifBCYhwtqq— Medea Benjamin (@medeabenjamin) May 3, 2014
25 | jaunte May 3, 2014 5:45:04pm |
Sayin' nuttin' pic.twitter.com/mvKG9sR6Bb
There’s a better one.
26 | sattv4u2 May 3, 2014 5:45:57pm |
27 | Killgore Trout May 3, 2014 5:46:36pm |
A great victory for tolerance and diversity has been achieved
How Condoleezza Rice’s Rutgers commencement appearance fell apart in 88 days
“I am honored to have served my country. I have defended America’s belief in free speech and the exchange of ideas. These values are essential to the health of our democracy. But that is not what is at issue here,” she said. “As a professor for thirty years at Stanford University and as (its) former provost and chief academic officer, I understand and embrace the purpose of the commencement ceremony and I am simply unwilling to detract from it in any way.”
Rice wished good luck to the Rutgers graduates.
29 | First As Tragedy, Then As Farce May 3, 2014 5:48:45pm |
If I were president, I would mandate a dress code of t-shirts and cargo shorts for this sort of thing.
30 | Killgore Trout May 3, 2014 5:49:07pm |
Yeah!!! Go Rutgers!! VIDEO: Rutgers Protests Condoleezza Rice as Commencement Speaker https://t.co/gPlJGbzSel #Cancelcondi #NoRice— CODEPINK (@codepink) April 29, 2014
31 | sattv4u2 May 3, 2014 5:49:34pm |
re: #28 freetoken
We missed you on the Sterling embroglio.
Sterling Embroglio
I knew him
mom was English,, father, Italian
34 | jaunte May 3, 2014 5:51:03pm |
Please tell me someone has baked a cake shaped like the black box to serve the CNN table. #whcd
— pourmecoffee (@pourmecoffee) May 4, 2014
36 | Stanley Sea May 3, 2014 5:52:08pm |
re: #34 jaunte
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I saw Wolf earlier in the photo line, waiting to hear someone say “where’s the PLANE?”
37 | jaunte May 3, 2014 5:52:13pm |
Oglevoss RT @KagroX Winklegross RT @finansakrobat: Hahaha RT @jdharm: Winklevoss Twins eye f'ng Jessica Simpson #WHCD pic.twitter.com/ReWJR5SIpC
— Alex Christensen (@AlejoEC) May 4, 2014
38 | Charles Johnson May 3, 2014 5:52:47pm |
Just going through Adsense's review tab - it's amazing how much far right whargarbl is targeted at political sites.— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) May 4, 2014
And it's a constantly moving target - if you try to block their URLs they just come back with different ones linked to the same ads.— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) May 4, 2014
39 | jaunte May 3, 2014 5:52:58pm |
@JeffersonObama @LizSchmidt3 Makes my mouth water!! RT The Squirrel Canapes are over there bro! pic.twitter.com/KItrruXOSP #WHCD #DuckDynasty
— Danny Hozack (@DannyHozack) May 4, 2014
40 | Skip Intro May 3, 2014 5:53:46pm |
re: #37 jaunte
Those guys would be great in a Frankenstein remake.
Damn! I just don’t know what’s wrong with me tonight.
41 | freetoken May 3, 2014 5:54:03pm |
Amazing at the crowd one can get when you hang out a sign that says “free food”.
43 | Stanley Sea May 3, 2014 5:54:34pm |
re: #39 jaunte
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Can’t even tie his tie. Gotta keep the down homeishness up.
Such a fake. Being used by GOP as hate against gays. Nothing more.
44 | Killgore Trout May 3, 2014 5:54:57pm |
re: #28 freetoken
We missed you on the Sterling embroglio.
Meh, I didn’t really follow that story enough to form a strong opinion. I really can’t find much reason to oppose the outrage on that one.
45 | Skip Intro May 3, 2014 5:55:01pm |
re: #41 freetoken
Amazing at the crowd one can get when you hang out a sign that says “free food”.
“but only if you don’t need it”.
47 | Stanley Sea May 3, 2014 5:56:27pm |
re: #41 freetoken
Amazing at the crowd one can get when you hang out a sign that says “free food”.
I think they pay big for this. Or their companies do, then write it off.
48 | freetoken May 3, 2014 5:56:44pm |
I wonder if the hotel kitchen staff get minimum wage?
49 | Killgore Trout May 3, 2014 5:57:38pm |
50 | jaunte May 3, 2014 5:57:46pm |
Koch Brothers sitting at a table with Hannity and Issa. Quelle surprise!
— mata (@mataharikrishna) May 4, 2014
51 | freetoken May 3, 2014 5:58:38pm |
re: #47 Stanley Sea
I think they pay big for this. Or their companies do, then write it off.
Maybe. Isn’t it put on by the little conclave called White House Correspondants’ Association ?
I’d assumed that they picked up the tab.
52 | Floral Giraffe May 3, 2014 5:58:38pm |
You haven’t had bad food, until you go to a big event like this.
NOTHING is served properly, it’s all cold & you’re eating salad while the table next to you has finished desert!
53 | Stanley Sea May 3, 2014 5:59:34pm |
re: #48 freetoken
I wonder if the hotel kitchen staff get minimum wage?
Heard a little blurb earlier. They work hard. Most change from the past was no more smoking, hard booze down (bottles per table) wine & sweet cocktails up.
Seniority gets the best service position. i.e. POTUS. See that server, probably with Hilton 40 years.
omg my life.
56 | Stanley Sea May 3, 2014 6:01:49pm |
re: #54 jaunte
Hey, is that Don Draper?
Not in any shape or form. Except for the Brylcreem. And Remember Don is in the 60-70’s. Not 20fucking14.
58 | sattv4u2 May 3, 2014 6:03:21pm |
re: #57 Stanley Sea
1/2 hour. Got time to go & get avocados.
is that code for something!?!?
umm,, okay
The fat man sits on the park bench winking at squirrels!
61 | freetoken May 3, 2014 6:04:41pm |
Lots of hydrangeas in those flower arrangements?
Can’t really grok the color-thinking in this one.
62 | sattv4u2 May 3, 2014 6:04:45pm |
63 | Rev_Arthur_Belling May 3, 2014 6:05:32pm |
Before I even read the thread, I want to go on the record as saying the WHCD is one of the things I HATE with the heat of 1000 suns about the DC politico/media circle jerk.
Journalists shouldn’t be hosting such. They shouldn’t be socializing with politicians outside the office period. And the WH Correspondents Association (or whatever the formal name is) is utterly useless bunch of prima donnas preening because of their vaunted seats in the press room, which used to be a swimming pool (and is really tiny, at that).
64 | klys May 3, 2014 6:07:02pm |
re: #63 Rev_Arthur_Belling
Before I even read the thread, I want to go on the record as saying the WHCD is one of the things I HATE with the heat of 1000 suns about the DC politico/media circle jerk.
Journalists shouldn’t be hosting such. They shouldn’t be socializing with politicians outside the office period. And the WH Correspondents Association (or whatever the formal name is) is utterly useless bunch of prima donnas preening because of their vaunted seats in the press room, which used to be a swimming pool (and is really tiny, at that).
We might be better served if it was turned back into a swimming pool.
65 | sattv4u2 May 3, 2014 6:07:51pm |
re: #63 Rev_Arthur_Belling
But where to draw the line
We have journalists married to and related to politicians
We have politicians married to and related to execs of companies that lobby ,,, politicians
and on and on and on
66 | Skip Intro May 3, 2014 6:08:04pm |
re: #62 sattv4u2
Well, somebody had to. It’s the most pressing issue of the century.
67 | freetoken May 3, 2014 6:08:50pm |
re: #63 Rev_Arthur_Belling
Rulers have always had their courtesans.
68 | sattv4u2 May 3, 2014 6:08:56pm |
re: #66 Skip Intro
Well, somebody had to. It’s the most pressing issue of the century.
My pants need pressing too
Can you get to that soon also!!
69 | Skip Intro May 3, 2014 6:10:03pm |
re: #68 sattv4u2
My pants need pressing too
Can you get to that soon also!!
Sure. Where do you like the iron burns?
71 | sattv4u2 May 3, 2014 6:11:12pm |
re: #69 Skip Intro
Sure. Where do you like the iron burns?
The way I played golf Tuesday, I’d like to burn my irons, as well as my putter and driver
72 | Rev_Arthur_Belling May 3, 2014 6:13:31pm |
re: #65 sattv4u2
Any journalist married to a politician should be reassigned to another beat nowhere near politics (I’m looking at you Andrea Mitchell).
Any politician married to a journalist should recuse him/herself from any legislation related to media, and should refuse coverage from his/her spouse.
For that matter, any self-respecting journalist who marries a politician should probably find another line of work, like P.R.
As for the politician/lobbyist thing, I have nothing to say about that. Most lobbyists could be scourged from K Street and I wouldn’t shed a single tear.
73 | Skip Intro May 3, 2014 6:14:51pm |
OK, now I see why this thread’s so dead. It’s just a video of people eating.
I hope everybody at the Duck Dynasty table said their prayers first.
74 | freetoken May 3, 2014 6:15:13pm |
As riveting as watching people eat is, I think I’ll go for a walk.
75 | sattv4u2 May 3, 2014 6:15:15pm |
re: #72 Rev_Arthur_Belling
I’d take it a step further
How about no politician being able to work for a lobbying company or PR firm until 4 years after he/she leaves office
76 | sattv4u2 May 3, 2014 6:15:37pm |
re: #74 freetoken
As riveting as watching people eat is, I think I’ll go for a walk.
why not go eat and let other people watch YOU !!!?
77 | Rev_Arthur_Belling May 3, 2014 6:16:16pm |
re: #75 sattv4u2
How about 1 year for every year he/she was in office? The political/lobbying revolving door is sickening.
78 | Skip Intro May 3, 2014 6:17:24pm |
re: #75 sattv4u2
Never happen. Free speech, you know.
Hey, how about a Supreme Court Justice who has a wife who’s a lobbyist? Any conflicts there?
79 | sattv4u2 May 3, 2014 6:18:37pm |
re: #78 Skip Intro
Never happen. Free speech, you know.
Hey, how about a Supreme Court Justice who has a wife who’s a lobbyist? Any conflicts there?
Same as the one(s) I mentioned above
No better, no worse
80 | Rev_Arthur_Belling May 3, 2014 6:19:51pm |
re: #78 Skip Intro
I think there was actually a case he should have recused himself on a few years ago because she was lobbying on that issue. Of course the bastard didn’t do any such thing.
81 | klys May 3, 2014 6:21:11pm |
re: #80 Rev_Arthur_Belling
I think there was actually a case he should have recused himself on a few years ago because she was lobbying on that issue. Of course the bastard didn’t do any such thing.
I guess we’ll just vote him out of office to express our displeasure! Same as any other politician!
///
82 | sattv4u2 May 3, 2014 6:22:29pm |
re: #81 klys
I guess we’ll just vote him out of office to express our displeasure! Same as any other politician!
///
Even when “we” can, “we” don;t!!!
83 | Skip Intro May 3, 2014 6:23:26pm |
re: #80 Rev_Arthur_Belling
My opinion is that a SC Justice, being one of only nine, has a hell of a lot more influence on the laws of this country than a politician who may only be one of 100 or 500+.
Of course, you might think that a SC Justice, having a lifetime appointment and not having to scramble for money would have higher standards of propriety.
Apparently not, though.
84 | Rev_Arthur_Belling May 3, 2014 6:23:49pm |
re: #81 klys
Ha! There was a post at Lawyers, Guns & Money the other day arguing that there should be some kind of restriction on SCOTUS justices’ service, because they usually don’t retire when they should (because of incapacitation due to senility or some other disability).
I’d be down with term limits on justices.
85 | Stanley Sea May 3, 2014 6:25:46pm |
86 | Rev_Arthur_Belling May 3, 2014 6:25:57pm |
re: #83 Skip Intro
You’ll get no argument from me on any of those points.
87 | klys May 3, 2014 6:30:13pm |
re: #82 sattv4u2
Even when “we” can, “we” don;t!!!
As is normal, it’s an article that is tangentially related to the topic at hand, mostly due to the phrase “conflict of interest.”
Although I agree that the effect lawmakers can have on companies that they may own stock in is one that should be addressed, it is a somewhat different one than the topic under discussion which primarily related to spousal conflict of interest.
(And, for the record, the bill under discussion a) died in committee and b) seems consistent with her overall positions.)
88 | sattv4u2 May 3, 2014 6:31:24pm |
re: #86 Rev_Arthur_Belling
You’ll get no argument from me on any of those points.
But I paid for an argument!!
90 | Skip Intro May 3, 2014 6:33:05pm |
I thought I just saw Donald Sterling’s, uhh, personal assistant walk by in the background.
A guest of Barbara Walters?
91 | Stanley Sea May 3, 2014 6:33:14pm |
Susan Rice getting Duck Dynasty dude’s autograph.
oh for fucks sake
94 | Skip Intro May 3, 2014 6:36:19pm |
95 | Dark_Falcon May 3, 2014 6:36:59pm |
re: #91 Stanley Sea
Susan Rice getting Duck Dynasty dude’s autograph.
oh for fucks sake
Maybe she enjoys duck hunting.
96 | Killgore Trout May 3, 2014 6:37:42pm |
re: #91 Stanley Sea
Susan Rice getting Duck Dynasty dude’s autograph.
oh for fucks sake
It might surprise you to learn that these people DC don’t actually hate the other side. They just make a show of it to excite the rubes voters
97 | Killgore Trout May 3, 2014 6:38:35pm |
98 | sattv4u2 May 3, 2014 6:39:16pm |
re: #96 Killgore Trout
It might surprise you to learn that these people DC don’t actually hate the other side. They just make a show of it to excite the
rubesvoters
Exactically
They rub elbows WAY more than this once a year shindig
99 | Varek Raith May 3, 2014 6:39:25pm |
re: #97 Killgore Trout
You’re free to tolerate homophobes.
I won’t.
If that’s ‘hate’ in your book, then whatever man.
100 | Rev_Arthur_Belling May 3, 2014 6:39:38pm |
re: #96 Killgore Trout
Some do, some don’t. There are quite a few of the teabagger caucus who genuinely hate the “Democrat party” politicians. I have no doubt of that.
Edit: And I truly believe Sally Quinn hated the Clintons.
101 | Killgore Trout May 3, 2014 6:41:11pm |
re: #98 sattv4u2
Exactically
They rub elbows WAY more than this once a year shindig
The Clintons and Bushes get along just fine in real life
102 | sattv4u2 May 3, 2014 6:42:00pm |
103 | klys May 3, 2014 6:42:04pm |
re: #99 Varek Raith
You’re free to tolerate homophobes.
I won’t.
If that’s ‘hate’ in your book, then whatever man.
Careful, that’s getting awfully close to infringing on their free speech.
Racism, however, is ok to speak out against. There is nothing wrong with outrage against companies and people using their free market veto on that. Just not homophobia and bigotry against gay people.
//
I’m sorry, the logic pretzel machine has failed. Please reboot and try again later.
104 | Killgore Trout May 3, 2014 6:44:43pm |
re: #100 Rev_Arthur_Belling
Some do, some don’t. There are quite a few of the teabagger caucus who genuinely hate the “Democrat party” politicians. I have no doubt of that.
Edit: And I truly believe Sally Quinn hated the Clintons.
It happens but it’s thankfully rare
105 | Charles Johnson May 3, 2014 6:46:24pm |
You may be tired of politics, but politics never gets tired of you.— Charles Johnson (@Green_Footballs) May 4, 2014
107 | Varek Raith May 3, 2014 6:47:19pm |
If only the Mozilla CEO wanted to ban marriage between blah people.
Only then we could protest him!
e_e
108 | Killgore Trout May 3, 2014 6:47:39pm |
110 | First As Tragedy, Then As Farce May 3, 2014 6:50:59pm |
Whitehouse Correspondents Dinner confirming all the cynicism expressed in “House of Cards”…
113 | Dark_Falcon May 3, 2014 6:52:50pm |
re: #106 sagehen
So what do we think of Michelle’s dress?
I say say its [insert appropriately flattering adjective]. :)
114 | sattv4u2 May 3, 2014 6:53:05pm |
115 | Skip Intro May 3, 2014 6:54:16pm |
re: #114 sattv4u2
I can see they picked the wrong person to be the M.C.
116 | sattv4u2 May 3, 2014 6:54:37pm |
re: #106 sagehen
So what do we think of Michelle’s dress?
Mrs Satty doesn’t like me thinking about dresses!
117 | sattv4u2 May 3, 2014 6:54:49pm |
118 | sattv4u2 May 3, 2014 6:55:19pm |
119 | Stanley Sea May 3, 2014 6:59:32pm |
re: #109 Stanley Sea
THIS is the best part.
No one watched the video. It was great history of the press corps.
120 | sattv4u2 May 3, 2014 6:59:51pm |
And on that note the long quiet drive home beckons!
121 | Skip Intro May 3, 2014 7:01:28pm |
So now it’s turned into the Academy Awards. “I wanna thank ……”
123 | Stanley Sea May 3, 2014 7:10:01pm |
This year, the White House Correspondents’ Association is celebrating its 100th anniversary, and it plans to posthumously honor the first African-American reporter to cover a presidential news conference.
That recognition is 70 years overdue.
124 | Skip Intro May 3, 2014 7:11:02pm |
re: #123 Stanley Sea
Freepers go ballistic.
“OH goody…we yet again get to hear it for the poor opressed black folks and women folk…..(Im gonna barf!)”
and
“Anyone keeping a count of “raysiss white boys” getting some free sh$t tonight?
I see mostly blacks, wymin, and a few other assorted minorities. Must be “reparations time” in the old town tonight.”
125 | freetoken May 3, 2014 7:11:51pm |
I do wonder if in decades to come there will be a WHCA. I can easily imagine a future where a new President decides to open up press interviews to online sources only.
The current WHCA president mentioned he worked for McClatchy. They have had to fight off rumors of being bought. So many old time news organizations are already gone, and many that are left still have not secured a good business model in the new digital world.
126 | First As Tragedy, Then As Farce May 3, 2014 7:22:32pm |
“The Secret Service doesn’t let me drive off the property”
that was actually somewhat amusing
127 | jaunte May 3, 2014 7:25:33pm |
“The lengths we have to go to to get CNN coverage these days.”
Boom.
129 | sagehen May 3, 2014 7:32:31pm |
“Orange is the New Black.”
ETA:
aarrgh! One Second!!
You got some fast fingers there.
130 | Dark_Falcon May 3, 2014 7:33:12pm |
re: #127 jaunte
“The lengths we have to go to to get CNN coverage these days.”
Boom.
All the president has to do is thank the US Navy for its efforts to find MH370 and CNN would come running.
131 | William of Orange May 3, 2014 7:33:26pm |
“Orange is the new black”.
That was a good one!
Yes, that’s me, watching live from the Netherlands. It’s 4:30AM over here!
132 | Dark_Falcon May 3, 2014 7:34:25pm |
re: #131 William of Orange
“Orange is the new black”.
That was a good one!
But enough about John Boehner…
134 | Charles Johnson May 3, 2014 7:39:26pm |
Rick Perry's “high school” pic.twitter.com/47SEGCGHyO— Ethan Klapper (@ethanklapper) May 4, 2014
135 | First As Tragedy, Then As Farce May 3, 2014 7:39:59pm |
Holy shit, given that Rick Perry’s property was called “n*****head Ranch” I was suddenly expecting that bit to play out differently than it did.
141 | Lancelot Link May 3, 2014 7:48:02pm |
re: #134 Charles Johnson
Aren’t those the bullies who stole MoreScience High School?
142 | sagehen May 3, 2014 7:50:24pm |
When the baby is born, do we give Bill Clinton a cigar?
143 | First As Tragedy, Then As Farce May 3, 2014 7:52:37pm |
I’ve never heard of Joel McHale before tonight, but now I know that he sucks as a comic.
144 | ninja cat May 3, 2014 7:53:25pm |
re: #138 William of Orange
Underwhelmed. Opened with a good zinger but I think several lines have been over the line.
145 | allegro May 3, 2014 7:57:11pm |
re: #143 First As Tragedy, Then As Farce
I’ve never heard of Joel McHale before tonight, but now I know that he sucks as a comic.
That is being real generous. Who is this guy?
147 | allegro May 3, 2014 8:00:38pm |
The only thing possibly worse than his jokes is his delivery.
148 | William of Orange May 3, 2014 8:05:15pm |
Glad that’s over. Next time Colbert again please…
It’s 5AM here,
I’m off to bed. See ya.
149 | jaunte May 3, 2014 8:05:30pm |
CNN has just begun a search for Joel McHale's agent. #WHCD
— Rocky Mountain Mike (@RockyMntnMike) May 4, 2014
150 | Pie-onist Overlord May 3, 2014 8:09:01pm |
Somebody is not amused.
Filthy-mouthed NBC comic gets standing ovation from #WHCD— toddstarnes (@toddstarnes) May 4, 2014
151 | Kragar May 3, 2014 8:10:45pm |
So dang hot here, wife didn’t feel like cooking. I dove into the fridge, pulled out some grilled mushroom chickens we had earlier in the week, diced it up with some green onions and other stuff and made us some omelets. Turned out pretty good.
152 | sagehen May 3, 2014 8:11:07pm |
re: #146 jaunte
Here’s something funny.
Gee… you’d think they could fire up the BBQ for some beef ribs….
153 | klys May 3, 2014 8:11:13pm |
re: #151 Kragar
So dang hot here, wife didn’t feel like cooking. I dove into the fridge, pulled out some grilled mushroom chickens we had earlier in the week, diced it up with some green onions and other stuff and made us some omelets. Turned out pretty good.
There are not words for how grateful I am that the AC went in last year, although today finally cooled off.
154 | Kragar May 3, 2014 8:13:30pm |
re: #153 klys
There are not words for how grateful I am that the AC went in last year, although today finally cooled off.
We’ve got AC, but don’t want to run it too much if we don’t have to.
155 | klys May 3, 2014 8:16:36pm |
re: #154 Kragar
We’ve got AC, but don’t want to run it too much if we don’t have to.
I am currently home all the time and get cranky in the heat. It runs.
I don’t let him turn it down too much though.
156 | klys May 3, 2014 8:17:12pm |
re: #155 klys
I am currently home all the time and get cranky in the heat. It runs.
I don’t let him turn it down too much though.
Also, it was a high of 95-97 three days this week. That gets up to 80+ in the house.
157 | Killgore Trout May 3, 2014 8:18:58pm |
There has been outrage
Jeremy Clarkson: BBC gave me final warning
Top Gear presenter Jeremy Clarkson says the BBC has told him he will be sacked if he makes “one more offensive remark, anywhere, at any time”.
158 | Kragar May 3, 2014 8:21:27pm |
That little bit of golden mushroom gravy left over in the omelet turned out pretty good.
159 | Targetpractice May 3, 2014 8:23:30pm |
re: #157 Killgore Trout
There has been outrage
Jeremy Clarkson: BBC gave me final warning
And then he’ll be brought back after Top Gear fans give them hell for the decision.
160 | klys May 3, 2014 8:23:50pm |
re: #159 Targetpractice
And then he’ll be brought back after Top Gear fans give them hell for the decision.
It’s like the free market has an effect or something.
162 | CuriousLurker May 3, 2014 8:29:12pm |
re: #146 jaunte
Here’s something funny.
LOL, what, all those rugged Real American™ manly men can’t go out and hunt down some food & cook it for themselves? What about Bundy’s cows?
164 | b_sharp May 3, 2014 8:29:55pm |
re: #162 CuriousLurker
LOL, what, all those rugged Real AmericanTM manly men can’t go out and hunt down some food & cook it for themselves? What about Bundy’s cows?
I don’t think the cows know how to pull the trigger.
165 | klys May 3, 2014 8:30:04pm |
re: #162 CuriousLurker
LOL, what, all those rugged Real AmericanTM manly men can’t go out and hunt down some food & cook it for themselves? What about Bundy’s cows?
He’s not going to accommodate any freeloaders.
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166 | Targetpractice May 3, 2014 8:31:53pm |
re: #162 CuriousLurker
LOL, what, all those rugged Real AmericanTM manly men can’t go out and hunt down some food & cook it for themselves? What about Bundy’s cows?
Hell, what about Bundy? They’re squatting on his land, shouldn’t he play good host and help cover their food costs?
167 | CuriousLurker May 3, 2014 8:37:39pm |
How in the hell are they supposed to survive during this new civil war/revolution they have planned if they’re already running out of MREs after a couple of weeks and whining for handouts?
I wish they’d send the National Guard or whoever to roll up there in a heavily armored convoy complete with tanks & air cover to deliver them some MREs, just to watch them piss their pants.
168 | jaunte May 3, 2014 8:40:31pm |
re: #167 CuriousLurker
They really aren’t too smart. One of the people out there ran out of gas on the way from NC (according to his twitter TL) some stranger in Texas gave him $200 to get to Nevada.
169 | teleskiguy May 3, 2014 8:41:31pm |
Greetings Lizards.
Did my first mountaineering trek of 2014 today, on the south slopes of Mt. Sherman in CO. Don’t tell anyone, but I went the wrong way and did a summit of neighboring Mt. Sheridan. Oops.
Snow climbing was excellent. Half way up I was cursing myself for not bringing my skis.
Mountain biking one day, mountaineering the next. http://t.co/LebXM4ycy3— Charlie Vogel (@teleskiguy) May 4, 2014
170 | CuriousLurker May 3, 2014 8:41:57pm |
Charles: I don’t know if you’re watching, but I just noticed that the HTML character entity for ™ is getting lost and turned into a plain old TM when the comment gets quoted. Same thing happens in the Spy.
172 | CuriousLurker May 3, 2014 8:42:57pm |
re: #168 jaunte
They really aren’t too smart. One of the people out there ran out of gas on the way from NC (according to his twitter TL) some stranger in Texas gave him $200 to get to Nevada.
*facepalm*
173 | CuriousLurker May 3, 2014 8:44:29pm |
174 | klys May 3, 2014 8:45:14pm |
re: #173 CuriousLurker
Nice!
I got a needle threader. The sparkle thread is EVIL. But at least I’ve been able to move forward.
175 | teleskiguy May 3, 2014 8:50:59pm |
I just noticed somewhere in my Twitter timeline something about Chief Justice of the Alabama Supreme Court Roy Moore (the same zealot that wanted a stone cutout of the 10 Commandments in front of the court) saying something about how the first amendment to our Constitution only applies to Christians.
I. Just. Can’t.
176 | CuriousLurker May 3, 2014 8:55:01pm |
re: #174 klys
I got a needle threader. The sparkle thread is EVIL. But at least I’ve been able to move forward.
Well, at least your women aren’t…
I love #journaling, but if I see one more big eyed, pencil necked, bow lipped, winsome waif with her head cocked ot one side I'm gonna HURL.— CuriousLurker (@CuriousLurker) May 3, 2014
I get frustrated with the journaling stuff sometimes because of all the crafters and… gah. Glimmer mist, perfect pearls, faeries, butterflies, mermaids… Oh, and babies, they love those creepy tiny polymer clay dolls that look like babies, and the baby-shaped silicone fondant molds. Who in the hell wants to eat fondant that looks like a newborn baby?
177 | klys May 3, 2014 8:57:48pm |
re: #176 CuriousLurker
Well, at least your women aren’t…
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I get frustrated with the journaling stuff sometimes because of all the crafters and… gah. Glimmer mist, perfect pearls, faeries, butterflies, mermaids… Oh and babies, they love those creepy tiny polymer clay dolls that look like babies, and the baby-shaped silicone fondant molds. Who in the hell wants to eat fondant that looks like a newborn baby?
One of my favorite designers is a …more art-deco style? So it at least avoids some of it.
Lord help me the day I start this pattern though.
178 | CuriousLurker May 3, 2014 9:06:40pm |
re: #177 klys
One of my favorite designers is a …more art-deco style? So it at least avoids some of it.
Lord help me the day I start this pattern though.
Oh wow, that’s gorgeous. I love art nouveau & art deco—all the late 19th to early 20th century stuff—and the “golden age” illustrators like Edmund Dulac. The kinds of faeries those guys drew were amazing.
My favorite building in NYC the Chrysler.
179 | klys May 3, 2014 9:12:21pm |
re: #178 CuriousLurker
Oh wow, that’s gorgeous. I love art nouveau & art deco—all the late 19th to early 20th century stuff—and the “golden age” illustrators like Edmund Dulac. The kinds of faeries those guys drew were amazing.
My favorite building in NYC the Chrysler.
THERE’S THE WORD I WAS ACTUALLY THINKING OF.
Cross stitching is funny because there really are a ton of different styles and everyone finds something that works for them but I definitely lean in that direction versus the old-style samplers or whatever.
Or babies. I definitely don’t stitch babies.
180 | Mattand May 3, 2014 9:13:37pm |
re: #63 Rev_Arthur_Belling
Before I even read the thread, I want to go on the record as saying the WHCD is one of the things I HATE with the heat of 1000 suns about the DC politico/media circle jerk.
Journalists shouldn’t be hosting such. They shouldn’t be socializing with politicians outside the office period. And the WH Correspondents Association (or whatever the formal name is) is utterly useless bunch of prima donnas preening because of their vaunted seats in the press room, which used to be a swimming pool (and is really tiny, at that).
Agree 1000%.
181 | Rightwingconspirator May 3, 2014 9:17:52pm |
182 | CuriousLurker May 3, 2014 9:24:26pm |
183 | CuriousLurker May 3, 2014 9:39:05pm |
Okay, totally different subject before I call it a night. I was just checking to see if there was some setting that would let me change the default thumbnail size when searching with Google Images and I found this in the settings:
The link goes to this page. NO, Google, I don’t want you to give me “private” results based on what you consider “relevant information” from my other Google products, nor do I want you to help me with any other damned thing, I just want you to return search results.
Yeah, I’m gonna worry about the NSA looking at my phone call meta data when Google & every other private company’s marketing department is up in my business all day every day. How many of those little “member” discount cards do you carry around? You know, the ones for the drug store, the grocery store, the pet supplies place, etc? Credit cards? Debit card? Library card? Those people know every damned intimate detail of your life, all they way down to how much toilet paper you use every month. Gah!
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184 | CuriousLurker May 3, 2014 9:42:44pm |
Okay, if anybody’s still here, I’m out. Have a good night.
186 | Lidane May 3, 2014 9:48:17pm |
Joel McHale is made for scripted TV like his show Community. He’s not a very good stand up comic at all. His delivery isn’t warm enough for live shows, IMO. It’s like going to see Bill Maher live. He’s good when he’s doing political humor but the rest of his jokes fall flat because he’s not funny beyond that.
I’ll watch POTUS do his bit later, but it seems like I didn’t miss much with Joel McHale.
187 | Lidane May 3, 2014 9:50:09pm |
re: #166 Targetpractice
Hell, what about Bundy? They’re squatting on his land, shouldn’t he play good host and help cover their food costs?
They should offer to pay him back in 20 years.
188 | Rightwingconspirator May 3, 2014 10:03:41pm |
189 | klys May 3, 2014 10:08:00pm |
re: #188 Political Atheist
It can really be mind-boggling, the difference in the shot between color and B&W.
I get to shoot in Ireland next week. Oh man.
190 | Rightwingconspirator May 3, 2014 10:11:21pm |
re: #189 klys
It can really be mind-boggling, the difference in the shot between color and B&W.
I get to shoot in Ireland next week. Oh man.
Officially jealous here… Good for you!
We went out after condors and birds of prey. Where I could see birds, no parking, no vantage. Then I got to a good vantage. No birds. So I started messing with whatever was there. Whew drove 250 rt miles for that.
191 | klys May 3, 2014 10:16:09pm |
re: #190 Political Atheist
Officially jealous here… Good for you!
We went out after condors and birds of prey. Where I could see birds, no parking, no vantage. Then I got to a good vantage. No birds. So I started messing with whatever was there. Whew drove 250 rt miles for that.
It’ll mostly be in Dublin; we’ll see what I find in the way of bus tours or whatever.
Also, Waterford. MUST GET TO WATERFORD.
On the black and white thing, I’ve posted this shot of OF before:
Here’s the same shot in color.
192 | darthstar May 3, 2014 10:16:48pm |
Obama Fox News will have a hard time convincing viewers that Hillary is from Kenya #WHCD #Benghazi pic.twitter.com/ySZGrZDDGP— Benny vessey (@Bennyvessey) May 4, 2014
193 | darthstar May 3, 2014 10:17:08pm |
Obama at #WHCD: “These days, Republicans give John Boehner a harder time than they give me! Which means… orange really IS the new black.”— Sunny Hundal (@sunny_hundal) May 4, 2014
194 | wheat-doggha -- oo bird outside my window May 3, 2014 10:22:07pm |
I discovered a new way to make panoramas yesterday. Microsoft has a free tool called Image Composition Editor. I wanted to update a Wikipedia article with a new panorama of the university where I work. Microsoft’s ICE took my four shots and stitched them into one in just a few seconds. Here’s the result:
This is Jishou University, Jishou, China
Here’s the link to the ginormous size pano. Image: Panoramic_view_of_Jishou_from_Jishou_University.png
195 | freetoken May 3, 2014 10:27:08pm |
re: #159 Targetpractice
Apparently there have been complaints from certain quarters about the BBC paying too much to on-air personalities. The BBC is looking to downsize their payroll, lowering salaries for the top presenters. To reach that end they are trying to push some of the older and more highly paid presenters out the door, the replacements for whom will be younger and get smaller salaries.
197 | FemNaziBitch May 3, 2014 10:47:25pm |
re: #188 Political Atheist
Okay this shot just surprised me in post. Shot today in the Ojai Valley.
Same one in color-To me not such an interesting look at all
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I like the color version because the depth of field seems more discernible. It’s striking.
199 | FemNaziBitch May 3, 2014 11:21:33pm |
200 | FemNaziBitch May 3, 2014 11:26:31pm |
vocabulary word of the morning:
Oobleck is a non-Newtonian fluid that behaves unlike other fluids. Flowing freely, it behaves as a regular liquid, but when a force is applied, it is more like a solid. If you pick oobleck up with your hands, it will easily flow through your fingers. If you squeeze or punch it, it will resist and feel like a solid. In large enough quantities, you can even walk on it! Oobleck can also dance to music, when spread out onto a sheet pan or plastic wrap and placed over a subwoofer. The pressure from the sound waves causes it to thicken as it moves.
For this experiment, you will need:
201 | Targetpractice May 3, 2014 11:27:27pm |
Gotta a derp-friend wingnut who’s absolutely convinced that reports of the militia running wild in Bunkerville are all lies. Says he won’t accept any report from the media because they’re “paid lying shills.”
202 | Varek Raith May 3, 2014 11:30:17pm |
re: #201 Targetpractice
Gotta a derp-friend wingnut who’s absolutely convinced that reports of the militia running wild in Bunkerville are all lies. Says he won’t accept any report from the media because they’re “paid lying shills.”
Sigh.
203 | Eclectic Cyborg May 3, 2014 11:32:58pm |
It’s early Sunday morning so I decided to go ahead and update the LGF Hymnal. Here are today’s selections:
Crown him with many clowns - The ballad of Glenn Greenwald
Come Thou Font of every Blessing
How great Thou aren’t - The Sarah Palin Song
It is well with my Code
205 | Targetpractice May 3, 2014 11:34:13pm |
re: #202 Varek Raith
Sigh.
Yeah, won’t say why he thinks the whole things a fabrication, but he’s convinced it is. And won’t do anything keep stamping his food and demanding “proof,” though I know any proof I provide will just be written off. If I presented video of Bundy himself out there demanding to see IDs, he’d probably tell me that the video is obviously falsified.
206 | Bubblehead II May 3, 2014 11:40:18pm |
Now 40 minutes into my 53rd year. Sigh.
Morning Lizards
208 | FemNaziBitch May 3, 2014 11:44:28pm |
re: #205 Targetpractice
Yeah, won’t say why he thinks the whole things a fabrication, but he’s convinced it is. And won’t do anything keep stamping his food and demanding “proof,” though I know any proof I provide will just be written off. If I presented video of Bundy himself out there demanding to see IDs, he’d probably tell me that the video is obviously falsified.
Ask him what “proof” he would accept?
210 | FemNaziBitch May 3, 2014 11:46:31pm |
I’ve decided that for some people god = random chance.
They can’t accept that no matter how well they follow the rules bad things can happen to them for no apparent reason.
Therefore, there must be a god and he must have a plan.
211 | FemNaziBitch May 3, 2014 11:46:53pm |
re: #210 FemNaziBitch
I’ve decided that for some people god = random chance.
They can’t accept that no matter how well they follow the rules bad things can happen to them for no apparent reason.
Therefore, there must be a god and he must have a plan.
and they are at the center of it.
212 | Targetpractice May 3, 2014 11:47:08pm |
re: #208 FemNaziBitch
Ask him what “proof” he would accept?
Just did. I imagine that when I finally do get it an answer, it’ll be a lot of handwaving.
213 | FemNaziBitch May 3, 2014 11:48:18pm |
re: #212 Targetpractice
Just did. I imagine that when I finally do get it an answer, it’ll be a lot of handwaving.
I don’t want it to be true, so even if you buy me a plane ticket and drive me to the site of the event and I see with my own eyes, I’ll assume you have drugged me and I’m hallucinating!!!
214 | Targetpractice May 3, 2014 11:48:37pm |
re: #204 Varek Raith
Updated firefox, hate the gui changes.
It’s caused some sort of memory leak issue with my computer, so bad that I had to go into the config to turn off caching to memory and disk. And even that only looks like it strangles the leak, rather than fixing it. The other two computers in my house have updated without an issue, so I’m thinking it’s one of my extensions. But which one…that’s the tricky part.
215 | FemNaziBitch May 3, 2014 11:49:10pm |
re: #214 Targetpractice
It’s caused some sort of memory leak issue with my computer, so bad that I had to go into the config to turn off caching to memory and disk. And even that only looks like it strangles the leak, rather than fixing it. The other two computers in my house have updated without an issue, so I’m thinking it’s one of my extensions. But which one…that’s the tricky part.
macbook is sooooo much easier.
216 | Targetpractice May 3, 2014 11:49:49pm |
re: #213 FemNaziBitch
I don’t want it to be true, so even if you buy me a plane ticket and drive me to the site of the event and I see with my own eyes, I’ll assume you have drugged me and I’m hallucinating!!!
I’m almost tempted to post a link to the Daily Kos diary that includes pictures of militia thugs “attending” a city council meeting and the police reports of threats made to the hotel that BLM agents stayed at during the roundup.
217 | FemNaziBitch May 3, 2014 11:50:32pm |
re: #216 Targetpractice
I’m almost tempted to post a link to the Daily Kos diary that includes pictures of militia thugs “attending” a city council meeting and the police reports of threats made to the hotel that BLM agents stayed at during the roundup.
This is really pissing me off.
who are the Jihadi thugs now?
218 | FemNaziBitch May 3, 2014 11:51:17pm |
So, they found confirmed another element (or something) #117?
Did I get that right?
219 | FemNaziBitch May 3, 2014 11:53:31pm |
Yes, I did.
2nd Vocabulary Word for the morning:
Ununseptium is the superheavy artificial chemical element with temporary symbol Uus and atomic number 117. The element, also known as eka-astatine or simply element 117,
220 | Bubblehead II May 3, 2014 11:55:12pm |
re: #218 FemNaziBitch
So, they found another element (or something) #117?
Did I get that right?
Yep and it lasts for only a few milliseconds.
Boffins confirm super-heavy Element 117 does exist - albeit briefly
221 | FemNaziBitch May 3, 2014 11:56:10pm |
re: #220 Bubblehead II
Yep and it lasts for only a few milliseconds.
Boffins confirm super-heavy Element 117 does exist - albeit briefly
Boffins! I love that word.
Yes, It’s all too much mathlikestuff for me, but the idea that there is still more to the world to be learned is a very cool thing.
I like it.
222 | FemNaziBitch May 3, 2014 11:58:42pm |
Well, all, I have to be up in 4 hours for the annual MS walk. Team Oscar has reached it’s stretch goal of 10K which we didn’t think we’d do this year. We got over $2K in the last 3 days!
$10K is 2 months worth of MS drugs for someone without insurance.
Every little bit helps.
223 | Floral Giraffe May 3, 2014 11:59:11pm |
re: #206 Bubblehead II
Now 40 minutes into my 53rd year. Sigh.
Morning Lizards
Happy birthday to you!
(Sung badly off key!!!)
224 | Bubblehead II May 4, 2014 12:02:15am |
re: #221 FemNaziBitch
Boffins! I love that word.
Yes, It’s all too much mathlikestuff for me, but the idea that there is still more to the world to be learned is a very cool thing.
I like it.
I like reading the Reg. They tend to be , shall we say, irreverent while at the same time factual. Must be that dry British humour.
226 | freetoken May 4, 2014 12:27:04am |
Continuing on with Schnittke’s Requiem:
227 | goddamnedfrank May 4, 2014 1:01:24am |
re: #191 klys
It’ll mostly be in Dublin; we’ll see what I find in the way of bus tours or whatever.
Also, Waterford. MUST GET TO WATERFORD.
On the black and white thing, I’ve posted this shot of OF before:
Here’s the same shot in color.
I reconverted the color to b&w, because flat imagery makes me sad. Also cropped it to get rid of the distracting fence rail, and made it square because it really wants to be square.
229 | goddamnedfrank May 4, 2014 1:21:03am |
re: #227 goddamnedfrank
If you have pretty much any version of Photoshop made in the last decade there’s a really good easy to remember method for b&w conversion that gives you decent control over tonal relationships.
First make two hue / saturation adjustment layers.
On the top adjustment layer bring the saturation down to zero.
Play with the hue slider on the bottom adjustment layer. You’ll see the various parts of your black and white conversion change in relation to one another depending on the corresponding color hues in the original image. This essentially duplicates the use of traditional color filters on the camera without having to alter exposure.
The nice thing about this method vs. more sophisticated tools like the channel mixer or selective color layers is that it’s very quick and intuitive, you don’t have to think about the colors, you just stop the slider where you think the best overall image is.
230 | wheat-doggha -- oo bird outside my window May 4, 2014 1:27:36am |
re: #229 goddamnedfrank
I really need to learn how to use PS better. You just taught me a new thing.
232 | Justanotherhuman May 4, 2014 4:11:08am |
Since it’s Sunday and I knew no one would be here, I read the whole blog.
WHCD not interesting and jokes here were probably better.
And the chick and the egg omelet sounds delicious, Kragar. : )
Now, time to make a small one for breakfast.
233 | Rev_Arthur_Belling May 4, 2014 4:22:57am |
re: #194 wheat-doggha — oo bird outside my window
This is really weird, but the ICE link is 404. Even searching with Google, all the links are 404. Hmm.
234 | Justanotherhuman May 4, 2014 5:10:37am |
I’ve had to go into Charlotte 2 days, Fri and Sun. I noticed far more motorcycles, “crotch rockets”, mopeds and bicycles on the road there who have to share the road. Although there are bicycle lanes in many places, the mopeds and other motorized 2 wheelers share the same lanes as autos, of course and Charlotte is one of those “sprawling” metros. I was mainly on the eastside of Charlotte, but most cars seemed to be 5 yrs old or older; saw very few really late model, or new vehicles. I don’t think these days too many people can afford both a house and car payment, and used cars are in demand. They are around here, also.
I think the economy over the past dozen years has managed to establish a very large lower working class of people who struggle to keep up and aren’t being helped by those “titans of capitalism” who seek only to increase their own coffers. Used goods are also in demand; the thrift stores are always crowded. The lower working class are renting apts or buying used mobile homes in lots tucked within the city limits (skirting middle class suburban enclaves), actually cheaper than renting in many cases. You can buy one of those that are covered under City regs for less than $10K, and pay a tiny lot rent of about $300/mo. I know this because my ex-DIL just did it, paying $4K for a 2BR, 1-1/2 bath. Her total pmt is around $600 for both the lot rent and trailer (and that will be paid off in about 4 yrs).
I’d rather rent and let someone else take care of repairs and the landscaping, and now just look for collectibles. Sat I scored 4 Johnson Bros fruit dishes that are probably 50-60 yrs old (pattern was from 1954 to 1965) and they’re in excellent shape. $2 for the lot. Like everything else, this venerable old English company was bought by Wedgewood in 1966 and now all of what’s left of its brand is made in China now—1,000 jobs were lost in Stoke.
236 | Rev_Arthur_Belling May 4, 2014 5:15:26am |
237 | Justanotherhuman May 4, 2014 5:17:09am |
re: #233 Rev_Arthur_Belling
This is really weird, but the ICE link is 404. Even searching with Google, all the links are 404. Hmm.
Maybe this would help (scroll down a bit).
238 | Justanotherhuman May 4, 2014 5:24:35am |
re: #236 Rev_Arthur_Belling
Mac. This is the first search result in Google:
This should be the download for your MAC:
ETA: I got that download here (scroll down): en.softonic.com
239 | NJDhockeyfan May 4, 2014 5:32:25am |
240 | Justanotherhuman May 4, 2014 5:36:21am |
Good summary of happenings in Ukraine.
Video: Anger and frustration in Ukraine amid unrest in Odessa
241 | wheat-doggha -- oo bird outside my window May 4, 2014 5:43:24am |
re: #233 Rev_Arthur_Belling
This is really weird, but the ICE link is 404. Even searching with Google, all the links are 404. Hmm.
Works for me. research.microsoft.com
242 | Justanotherhuman May 4, 2014 5:44:03am |
243 | Justanotherhuman May 4, 2014 5:47:19am |
re: #239 NJDhockeyfan
Good morning lizards!
How about some Eagle to start the day?
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How about some Linda instead?
245 | Rev_Arthur_Belling May 4, 2014 5:53:40am |
re: #241 wheat-doggha — oo bird outside my window
This is what I see in chrome. Address:
research.microsoft.com
Edit: It’s no big deal, I was just curious about the software. I probably wouldn’t use it, but I have some photographer friends who might find it useful.
246 | Justanotherhuman May 4, 2014 5:59:01am |
re: #244 Bubblehead II
Here’s some Patti Page.
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Pure 50s. I remember her well. : ) I was 9 when this came out.
247 | NJDhockeyfan May 4, 2014 6:05:57am |
248 | Bubblehead II May 4, 2014 6:11:44am |
249 | NJDhockeyfan May 4, 2014 6:18:07am |
Sometimes all you need is just a guitar….
250 | Justanotherhuman May 4, 2014 6:19:13am |
251 | NJDhockeyfan May 4, 2014 6:28:40am |
#BREAKING Pro-Russian militants attack police HQ in Ukraine's Odessa— Agence France-Presse (@AFP) May 4, 2014
252 | Dark_Falcon May 4, 2014 6:32:50am |
re: #251 NJDhockeyfan
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In what strength, I wonder? With the Crimea gone, Ukraine cannot afford to lose Odessa. If the pro-Russia forces take any major government buildings there, the Ukrainian government is going to have to take them back, regardless of how Putin may use such an action.
253 | NJDhockeyfan May 4, 2014 6:39:25am |
254 | Sionainn May 4, 2014 6:39:39am |
Good morning, Lizards!
I’m wondering if I’m misremembering this. Way back in September of 2012, wasn’t there a video posted here in Libya of attackers at the consulate claiming that they were protesting the video? If there was, would someone please help me out with a link? I can’t find it in my search. Thanks!
255 | Killgore Trout May 4, 2014 6:40:30am |
re: #252 Dark_Falcon
In what strength, i wonder? With the Crimea gone, Ukraine cannot afford to lose Odessa. If the pro-Russia forces take any major government buildings there, the Ukrainian government is going to have to take them back, regardless of how Putin may use such an action.
Nope. Putin needs Odessa and Ukraine is going to have to learn to live without it. Ukraine can’t win and it’s very doubtful we are going to go to war with Russia over this. Puntin can have Odessa and then he’ll move on Transnistria. Not much we can do about it.
256 | NJDhockeyfan May 4, 2014 6:52:50am |
re: #252 Dark_Falcon
In what strength, I wonder? With the Crimea gone, Ukraine cannot afford to lose Odessa. If the pro-Russia forces take any major government buildings there, the Ukrainian government is going to have to take them back, regardless of how Putin may use such an action.
It’s not looking good. They took over without a fight and freed their comrades.
City of #Odessa is back at the centre of the storm. Pro-Russian crowd storms the main police station, frees 30+ prisoners #Ukraine— James Mates (@jamesmatesitv) May 4, 2014
257 | NJDhockeyfan May 4, 2014 6:59:14am |
Separatists running wild in Odessa it seems. They frce police to release separatist prisoners. Will pro Ukrainians now come out ?— bruce springnote (@BSpringnote) May 4, 2014
258 | Dark_Falcon May 4, 2014 6:59:37am |
re: #255 Killgore Trout
Nope. Putin needs Odessa and Ukraine is going to have to learn to live without it. Ukraine can’t win and it’s very doubtful we are going to go to war with Russia over this. Puntin can have Odessa and then he’ll move on Transnistria. Not much we can do about it.
Ukraine can’t do without a port, Killgore and they’re not just going to concede their entire coastline. Over Odessa, they’ll fight, even though they can’t win a stand up fight. Because being choked to death is worse than going down in a hail of gunfire.
259 | Dark_Falcon May 4, 2014 7:04:39am |
And moreover, Russia doesn’t need Odessa. Sevastopol is the main port for the Black Sea Fleet and between it and Novorossiysk Russia already has two major ports on the Black Sea.
260 | wheat-doggha -- oo bird outside my window May 4, 2014 7:11:15am |
re: #245 Rev_Arthur_Belling
This is what I see in chrome. Address:
research.microsoft.comEdit: It’s no big deal, I was just curious about the software. I probably wouldn’t use it, but I have some photographer friends who might find it useful.
That’s weird. I click the link you included, and the page comes up fine. Can you get to research.microsoft.com?
261 | wheat-doggha -- oo bird outside my window May 4, 2014 7:15:40am |
re: #255 Killgore Trout
Nope. Putin needs Odessa and Ukraine is going to have to learn to live without it. Ukraine can’t win and it’s very doubtful we are going to go to war with Russia over this. Puntin can have Odessa and then he’ll move on Transnistria. Not much we can do about it.
Why does Putin need Odessa? For that matter, why does Putin need any territory outside the existing Russian Federation? He’s got plenty of territory already, and he should get the hell out of Crimea.
Are you some kind of Putin apologist? Or is Ukraine an “expendable” country, like, say, Austria, Poland or Czechoslovakia were in the 1930s?
262 | Rev_Arthur_Belling May 4, 2014 7:15:44am |
re: #260 wheat-doggha — oo bird outside my window
Even weirder, here’s what I get when I go to the link you just posted.
Error page
An error page itself isn’t that big a deal, but the fact that you were able to access it and I’m getting an error page - that’s weird.
Maybe MS doesn’t like me. :)
263 | Killgore Trout May 4, 2014 7:17:22am |
re: #259 Dark_Falcon
And moreover, Russia doesn’t need Odessa. Sevastopol is the main port for the Black Sea Fleet and between it and Novorossiysk Russia already has two major ports on the Black Sea.
He needs Odessa to break the ” blockade of Transnistria”. Check it out on the map. Odessa is easier to grab and hold. Otherwise Putin needs to take and hold all of Southern Ukraine for a land route. Much easier to grab just Odessa and then he’ll have a port city.
264 | wheat-doggha -- oo bird outside my window May 4, 2014 7:17:57am |
re: #262 Rev_Arthur_Belling
Well, I get that, too, now. So you can at least get to the index page. I don’t understand why the link to ICE is not working for you, though.
265 | Justanotherhuman May 4, 2014 7:18:25am |
House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif.: ‘I would rather pass comprehensive immigration reform than win the elections in November’ - @upwithsteve
end of alert
266 | Rev_Arthur_Belling May 4, 2014 7:18:36am |
On an OT note, I checked my “Karma” just now and somewhere over the weekend, I crossed 1,000! Not sure what that means, and nowhere near some of the Karma levels of the other commenters here, but thanks for making a n00b feel welcome.
267 | wheat-doggha -- oo bird outside my window May 4, 2014 7:19:45am |
re: #263 Killgore Trout
He needs Odessa to break the ” blockade of Transnistria”. Check it out on the map. Odessa is easier to grab and hold. Otherwise Putin needs to take and hold all of Southern Ukraine for a land route. Much easier to grab just Odessa and then he’ll have a port city.
I repeat, why does Putin need any territory outside the existing Russian borders? Russia has plenty of ports already.
268 | Rev_Arthur_Belling May 4, 2014 7:20:05am |
re: #265 Justanotherhuman
House Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif.: ‘I would rather pass comprehensive immigration reform than win the elections in November’
Sadly, thanks to GOP intransigence and gerrymandering, she probably won’t get either.
269 | NJDhockeyfan May 4, 2014 7:20:47am |
Today is Audrey Hepburn’s birthday
270 | Killgore Trout May 4, 2014 7:20:47am |
re: #261 wheat-doggha — oo bird outside my window
Why does Putin need Odessa? For that matter, why does Putin need any territory outside the existing Russian Federation? He’s got plenty of territory already, and he should get the hell out of Crimea.
Are you some kind of Putin apologist? Or is Ukraine an “expendable” country, like, say, Austria, Poland or Czechoslovakia were in the 1930s?
I’m very much opposed to Putin’s expansionism but I’m also opposed to making threats and red lines that we aren’t going to enforce. Obama says military options are not on the table and nobody thinks sanctions are going to dissuade Putin. Maybe the next administration will have better ideas but I’m not seeing any good options here.
271 | andres May 4, 2014 7:22:07am |
re: #267 wheat-doggha — oo bird outside my window
I repeat, why does Putin need any territory outside the existing Russian borders? Russia has plenty of ports already.
To force Ukraine into their fold once again?
272 | darthstar May 4, 2014 7:22:24am |
@DCPlod pic.twitter.com/ked4fiNvfH— Sean McCabe (@darthstar99) May 4, 2014
273 | Killgore Trout May 4, 2014 7:23:12am |
re: #263 Killgore Trout
He needs Odessa to break the ” blockade of Transnistria”. Check it out on the map. Odessa is easier to grab and hold. Otherwise Putin needs to take and hold all of Southern Ukraine for a land route. Much easier to grab just Odessa and then he’ll have a port city.
Taking all of southern Ukraine for a land route would cut off Odessa from the rest of Ukraine anyways. Either way, Kiev loses Odessa.
274 | Dark_Falcon May 4, 2014 7:24:01am |
re: #263 Killgore Trout
He needs Odessa to break the ” blockade of Transnistria”. Check it out on the map. Odessa is easier to grab and hold. Otherwise Putin needs to take and hold all of Southern Ukraine for a land route. Much easier to grab just Odessa and then he’ll have a port city.
That makes no sense. If he wants to send supplies to Transnistria, he could get that without fighting. Attacking Odessa guarantees that things will get very ugly, since its not something Ukraine can accept.
275 | Rev_Arthur_Belling May 4, 2014 7:26:41am |
This is hilarious:
Julia Louis-Dreyfuss and Joe Biden promo:
276 | Justanotherhuman May 4, 2014 7:27:14am |
re: #270 Killgore Trout
I’m very much opposed to Putin’s expansionism but I’m also opposed to making threats and red lines that we aren’t going to enforce. Obama says military options are not on the table and nobody thinks sanctions are going to dissuade Putin. Maybe the next administration will have better ideas but I’m not seeing any good options here.
The US may still have the largest share of the world’s wealth (even though people like us don’t get it), but that doesn’t mean that we’re the policemen of the world, either.
I think Europe and NATO have a bigger stake in what’s going on than the US, and they would be the obvious defenders of Ukraine. The US can help with “boots on the ground” only as a part of NATO, not an individual country. Otherwise, we can send Ukraine equipment and supplies, as much as we wish.
277 | wheat-doggha -- oo bird outside my window May 4, 2014 7:27:43am |
re: #270 Killgore Trout
Well, then rephrase your statements to reflect this opinion. Saying Putin needs Odessa or southern Ukraine connotes approval of his expansionism. Putin doesn’t need Odessa. He wants Odessa. That’s a big difference.
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278 | Killgore Trout May 4, 2014 7:29:10am |
re: #274 Dark_Falcon
That makes no sense. If he wants to send supplies to Transnistria, he could get that without fighting. Attacking Odessa guarantees that things will get very ugly, since its not something Ukraine can accept.
It’s not just supplies. Putin wants permanent trade routes in and out of Transnistria without pesky duties, taxes and customs fees paid to other countries.
Putin: “The people of Transnistria should be allowed to decide their fate themselves”
“They have their own opinions about their fate. Democracy let them live as they want. We should continue negotiations with Moldova, Transnistria. We should lift the blockage from the Transnistrian region,” he said.
279 | wheat-doggha -- oo bird outside my window May 4, 2014 7:32:34am |
280 | Justanotherhuman May 4, 2014 7:35:26am |
Everyone is so sick of war, no one wants to get involved outside of the country in conflict.
281 | ObserverArt May 4, 2014 7:39:02am |
re: #280 Justanotherhuman
Everyone is so sick of war, no one wants to get involved outside of the country in conflict.
Amen.
Well, everyone except one Kilgore Trout, LGF member.
I think. I am not sure. I am only guessing. Maybe.
Is that clear?
: )
282 | Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut May 4, 2014 7:42:00am |
re: #255 Killgore Trout
Nope. Putin needs Odessa and Ukraine is going to have to learn to live without it. Ukraine can’t win and it’s very doubtful we are going to go to war with Russia over this. Puntin can have Odessa and then he’ll move on Transnistria. Not much we can do about it.
What does Putin need Odessa for, Killgore?
283 | Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut May 4, 2014 7:43:01am |
re: #278 Killgore Trout
It’s not just supplies. Putin wants permanent trade routes in and out of Transnistria without pesky duties, taxes and customs fees paid to other countries.
Putin: “The people of Transnistria should be allowed to decide their fate themselves”
Obviously trade routes are worth starting invasions that destroy your international credibility when it comes to upholding treaties and dealing with trading partners.
If that were actually Putin’s reasoning, he’d be a deeply stupid man, which I don’t think he is.
284 | Killgore Trout May 4, 2014 7:43:41am |
re: #280 Justanotherhuman
Everyone is so sick of war, no one wants to get involved outside of the country in conflict.
Agreed, recent polling shows that US public opinion is against international involvement. A war with Russia over it’s expansion would be very unpopular.
285 | Bubblehead II May 4, 2014 7:43:44am |
re: #278 Killgore Trout
It’s not just supplies. Putin wants permanent trade routes in and out of Transnistria without pesky duties, taxes and customs fees paid to other countries.
Putin: “The people of Transnistria should be allowed to decide their fate themselves”
Did you even bother to read the FIRST link you provided? Because the way I read it, it’s a win/win for everybody except Russia and smugglers
It should be noted that the registration process for Transnistrian businesses in Chisinau is free of charge and that all import / export duties are paid to the Transnistrian administration.
This I think is the real reason this shit is going down.
Moldova has been able to achieve the partial economic reintegration of Transnistria.
And this is something Putin doesn’t want to happen.
* Edited for clarity
286 | Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut May 4, 2014 7:45:16am |
re: #284 Killgore Trout
Agreed, recent polling shows that US public opinion is against international involvement. A war with Russia over it’s expansion would be very unpopular.
War with Russia would be fucking stupid beyond belief, and nobody except the most insane assholes actively thinks it should happen.
287 | Killgore Trout May 4, 2014 7:47:53am |
re: #285 Bubblehead II
This I think is the real reason this shit is going down.
Moldova has been able to achieve the partial economic reintegration of Transnistria.
And this is something Putin doesn’t want to happen.
Agreed. When Putin takes Transnistria he may annex it or leave it as a semi-autonomous region but the taxes and duties will go to Moscow via his “customs union” thing he’s putting together.
288 | Justanotherhuman May 4, 2014 7:48:13am |
More proof that those “pro-Russians” in eastern Ukraine are a blend of reactionary types (such as the ‘baggers in the US) and Russian provocateurs.
Meet the self-proclaimed ‘people’s mayor’ of Ukraine’s Slaviansk
I really don’t see how Ukraine could function as a democracy at all while its leaders, like Yanuk, were taking direction from Russia and enriching themselves at the same time. A veil of fascism remains over Ukraine at the moment, which would take years and a number of reforms to make democracy a real feature of the country. “Democratic” elections don’t ensure that; they’re just elections and can always be manipulated by those who want to maintain power, as we’re seeing in country after country.
289 | Romantic Heretic May 4, 2014 7:49:10am |
re: #206 Bubblehead II
Now 40 minutes into my 53rd year. Sigh.
Morning Lizards
Is that all? ;)
Happy Birthday.
290 | wheat-doggha -- oo bird outside my window May 4, 2014 7:52:08am |
re: #287 Killgore Trout
Agreed. When Putin takes Transnistria he may annex it or leave it as a semi-autonomous region but the taxes and duties will go to Moscow via his “customs union” thing he’s putting together.
Sounds like the 18th century Stamp Act and similar tariffs. Tax the colonies to enrich the crown, as it were.
292 | Killgore Trout May 4, 2014 7:56:19am |
re: #290 wheat-doggha — oo bird outside my window
Sounds like the 18th century Stamp Act and similar tariffs. Tax the colonies to enrich the crown, as it were.
Yup. The weird thing is most of the properties Putin is absorbing into his tax union are pretty shitty economies on their own. I don’t understand the economics of it but I assume the Russians have some plan to make this all work out for them. Maybe the plan is just as simple as milking these shitty economies dry, enriching Moscow while leaving them to rot.
293 | Romantic Heretic May 4, 2014 7:57:02am |
re: #255 Killgore Trout
Nope. Putin needs Odessa and Ukraine is going to have to learn to live without it. Ukraine can’t win and it’s very doubtful we are going to go to war with Russia over this. Puntin can have Odessa and then he’ll move on Transnistria. Not much we can do about it.
I believe we’ll have to sooner or later. I don’t believe that Putin will stop short of The English Channel. He needs conflict with ‘Enemies of The Motherland’ to remain in power. If he stopped Russians would realize how badly he’s fucked up their country, and he’d suffer the same fate as the Romanovs.
So, he’s always going to be spoiling for a fight.
294 | Justanotherhuman May 4, 2014 7:59:31am |
President Bill Clinton will join tour of tornado damage Sunday
Read more: 4029tv.com
(snip)
“Clinton will join the Secretary of Homeland Security, Arkansas Governor Mike Beebe and Senator Mark Pryor to survey the damage and get an update on recovery in Faulkner County.
“President Obama is schedule to visit the area Wednesday, in his first visit to Arkansas since being elected president.”
295 | Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut May 4, 2014 8:04:28am |
re: #290 wheat-doggha — oo bird outside my window
Sounds like the 18th century Stamp Act and similar tariffs. Tax the colonies to enrich the crown, as it were.
This totally has nothing to do with anything, but the Stamp Act is actually fascinatingly convoluted. Basically, the UK kept a big standing army, but Parliament didn’t like having it in the UK in case a Napoleon type situation occurred or a crisis between the monarchy and the parliament. So most of the troops were garrisoned throughout the empire. The US didn’t actually need as many troops as it had to defend against American Indians, the British campaigns probably just inflamed problems and most actual indian attacks were beaten back by Colonial forces. This is complicated by Britain and France using the US as a proxy battlefield, but it was mostly Britain as the aggressor.
The Stamp Act was part of a series of taxes to get the Americans to pay for these troops, even though they were mostly just part of the political favor system in Britain; it was a good place to stick lower sons of the nobility and for middle-class guys looking to get ahead to get some service time. So it didn’t really wind up enriching the crown, but it enriched the people selling commissions.
The Americans didn’t like this shit first because of economic reasons, it was a big admin cost as well as the direct cost of the ‘stamp’, and most of the British manufacturers didn’t like it because it lowered their exports to the colonies and raised overhead for those that had invested in stuff in America. It later became important as an actual ‘constitutional’ issue for the Americans.
The Stamp Act was basically something that benefitted a certain narrow class (the officer class) and was opposed by a lot of other British interests. It got repealed in 1766, but the power to enact such taxes didn’t get repealed, so the Americans who had agitated against it weren’t satisfied by just repeal.
296 | wheat-doggha -- oo bird outside my window May 4, 2014 8:25:00am |
re: #295 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut
—snip—
The Stamp Act was part of a series of taxes to get the Americans to pay for these troops, even though they were mostly just part of the political favor system in Britain; it was a good place to stick lower sons of the nobility and for middle-class guys looking to get ahead to get some service time.
I’ve learned recently that it is common in China for government officials to buy commissions in the PLA. This entitles them to wear a middle rank officer’s uniform, and I presume, to gain some additional economic benefits. When my friend told me he had just bought himself a colonel-ship in the PLA, I thought he was joking. He wasn’t.
A nation that uses its military to gain social status has serious social problems.
297 | ObserverArt May 4, 2014 8:31:59am |
Yeah, I’m a victim of watching Meet The Press again. However, I’m kind of glad I did watch today. They have Will I. Am as part of their round table panel today, and I have to give it to him. He is doing a good job and is making more sense with his questions to the panel than Jason Chaffetz is with the answers. He asked about health care and why that is even an issue and Chaffettz went and mentioned Obamacare.
Immediately Anita Dunn, Fmr. White House Communications Director jumped in and said that she understands Will I. Am’s question and how Chaffetz’s answer goes to Will I. Am’s frustration as a younger communicator with politics. She rightly pointed out that Will I. Am’s question was about Washington doing something through politics, but Chaffetz’s answer was just pure party politics and that is what it has done what Will I. Am called the younger peoples frustration and turn-off and disconnect.
Good stuff. I wonder if the larger point made in that exchange got through Chaffetz? Probably not.
And Will I. Am just closed the show with a nice comment about last evenings White House Correspondents dinner. He said there were politicians and a lot of “Celebriticians”…and Gregory cut the show with everyone chuckling.
I think Will I. Am has a good political future, should he go down that road. He impressed me and I am glad he is active in his community and working to help inner city kids turn it around.
299 | sattv4u2 May 4, 2014 9:10:23am |
re: #298 b_sharp
Where are you?
physically?
meta-physically?
financially??
spiritually!?!?!?
I’M SO CONFUSED!!!
300 | kirkspencer May 4, 2014 9:11:17am |
301 | Killgore Trout May 4, 2014 9:11:29am |
re: #293 Romantic Heretic
I believe we’ll have to sooner or later. I don’t believe that Putin will stop short of The English Channel. He needs conflict with ‘Enemies of The Motherland’ to remain in power. If he stopped Russians would realize how badly he’s fucked up their country, and he’d suffer the same fate as the Romanovs.
So, he’s always going to be spoiling for a fight.
I’m starting to think that might be a possibility.
302 | ObserverArt May 4, 2014 9:11:45am |
303 | sattv4u2 May 4, 2014 9:14:13am |
304 | Targetpractice May 4, 2014 9:17:11am |
305 | sattv4u2 May 4, 2014 9:17:46am |
My list of things TO DO Today
Mow the front lawn
Spray weed-eater at the entrance of our sub-division
Give one of the dogs a bath
Grocery shop
2nd coat of wood sealer on the back steps
Things that WILL get done off the list
Grocery shop
(hey,, ya gotta eat!!!)
306 | Lidane May 4, 2014 9:20:10am |
#MayThe4thBeWithYou pic.twitter.com/l0V8QH8yhc— Cute Overload (@CuteOverload) May 4, 2014
307 | Rev_Arthur_Belling May 4, 2014 9:21:11am |
re: #293 Romantic Heretic
I don’t believe that Putin will stop short of The English Channel.
Are you being serious here? I can’t see Putin going after Denmark, Germany or France. But maybe my geography is rusty.
308 | sattv4u2 May 4, 2014 9:21:37am |
309 | ObserverArt May 4, 2014 9:22:42am |
re: #301 Killgore Trout
I’m starting to think that might be a possibility.
Didn’t you also start to think that back when there were the first hints Putin was going to make a move on Crimea?
Why do I get the feeling what you are really concerned with is how bad this could all possibly look for President Obama and how you hope it affects Hillary come 2016?
Add in the Kerry outrage from last week and it looks like that is the real motivation.
All of course couched in your confusion over what it is you really think. Don’t you think you and all the members here would be better served with you just coming out and saying it? Then we cold at least debate your position instead having to walk through the mud(dle).
Maybe I’m wrong?
310 | b_sharp May 4, 2014 9:22:44am |
re: #299 sattv4u2
physically?
meta-physically?
financially??
spiritually!?!?!?
I’M SO CONFUSED!!!
You look it.
313 | b_sharp May 4, 2014 9:24:05am |
re: #303 sattv4u2
And when you do get here,,,, bring beer ,,,, and bbq’d wings ,,,
Brought the beer, but not the wings.
I brought ham and pineapple pizza instead.
Mushrooms on half.
314 | sattv4u2 May 4, 2014 9:25:17am |
re: #307 Rev_Arthur_Belling
Are you being serious here? I can’t see Putin going after Denmark, Germany or France. But maybe my geography is rusty.
Hyperbole, I think
I think he (Putin) has his eyes on carving out parts of “old” territories the former USSR had
I said yesterday, eastern Ukraine (draw a line just about straight down north to south from the furthest southeast corner of Belarus down to Odessa)
315 | sattv4u2 May 4, 2014 9:25:49am |
re: #313 b_sharp
Brought the beer, but not the wings.
I brought ham and pineapple pizza instead.
Mushrooms on half.
BE GONE, HEATHEN!!
316 | Killgore Trout May 4, 2014 9:26:12am |
317 | ObserverArt May 4, 2014 9:26:13am |
re: #307 Rev_Arthur_Belling
Are you being serious here? I can’t see Putin going after Denmark, Germany or France. But maybe my geography is rusty.
I think maybe the English Channel reference was just an example meaning that Putin isn’t going to stop doing whatever the hell he is doing until he is finished and not stop at some border or obstacle he could easily jump.
318 | ObserverArt May 4, 2014 9:27:01am |
319 | andres May 4, 2014 9:27:07am |
re: #278 Killgore Trout
It’s not just supplies. Putin wants permanent trade routes in and out of Transnistria without pesky duties, taxes and customs fees paid to other countries.
Putin: “The people of Transnistria should be allowed to decide their fate themselves”
You know who else decided their fate by themselves? Crimea, with Russian guns on their heads.
320 | Killgore Trout May 4, 2014 9:27:54am |
321 | Killgore Trout May 4, 2014 9:28:48am |
re: #319 andres
You know who else decided their fate by themselves? Crimea, with Russian guns on their heads.
They probably would have approved the referendum anyways. The guns and vote rigging was just a bonus.
322 | sattv4u2 May 4, 2014 9:29:35am |
re: #309 ObserverArt
I think we’re all confused, concerned and pretty much clueless as to what Putins end game is.
I don;t think the Bush admin had a handle on it, and I believe this admin is in the same quandary.
323 | bluebonnetbunny May 4, 2014 9:32:12am |
Everything that is wrong with the White House Correspondents Dinner, David Gregory and Meet The Press explained in one short video Youtube Video from the 2006 WHCD.
NBC didn’t need to hire psychologists to find out why the ratings for Meet The Press are collapsing. This video tells the tale.
324 | Killgore Trout May 4, 2014 9:33:12am |
re: #320 Killgore Trout
He also has an excellent and reasonable post on Benghazi
Ground Truth About Benghazi
The White House today finds itself in an awkward place of its own creation. What could have been a brief, manageable scandal has now become an extended one that may dog the administration for the rest of its second term, while trashing Hillary Clinton’s 2016 presidential ambitions to boot. Mainstream media outlets are no longer burying the story, and the White House ought not expect a pass anymore, particularly as reporters generally sympathetic to the administration are calling it out for its dishonesty over Benghazi. For this, the White House, again, has nobody to blame but themselves.
I hope the American public learns the truth about what happened at Benghazi, why, and what came in its aftermath, both in Libya and in Washington, DC. There are more than academic questions at play here. Truth and justice, by no means always the same thing in our nation’s capital, deserve an audience. I especially hope that the coming investigation avoids excessive partisanship of the sort so many Americans, including this one, feel is corroding our entire political system, but I’m not overly optimistic on that point, given the recent track record of both parties. I’ll settle for knowing what really happened to Chris Stevens, Sean Smith, Glen Doherty, and Tyrone Woods - and why.
325 | Rev_Arthur_Belling May 4, 2014 9:37:25am |
re: #324 Killgore Trout
That post about Benghazi is not reasonable at all. Just because he throws a “avoid partisanship” disclaimer in at the end doesn’t mean it’s “reasonable.” It’s retread GOP bullshit.
327 | Rightwingconspirator May 4, 2014 9:41:48am |
re: #314 sattv4u2
Hyperbole, I think
I think he (Putin) has his eyes on carving out parts of “old” territories the former USSR had
I said yesterday, eastern Ukraine (draw a line just about straight down north to south from the furthest southeast corner of Belarus down to Odessa)
We have a young mom neighbor. Ukrainian. Pro Putin. She has been an interesting person to chat with about a lot of this. And reading up on NATO expansion, may or may not be a factor in Putins actions. Did we break a deal to not expand NATO? Gorbachev says yes, academics say no. Those Warsaw pact populations did it on their own for economic reasons and Putin would of course never blame the west for that… Back and forth
328 | b_sharp May 4, 2014 9:42:29am |
re: #326 makeitstop
Smells like troll in here this morning.
Sorry, my stomach is upset and I have bad gas.
329 | sattv4u2 May 4, 2014 9:44:00am |
330 | sattv4u2 May 4, 2014 9:44:42am |
speaking of bad gas ,,, ANOTHER thing on the To Do list
Tune up the riding mower
331 | Killgore Trout May 4, 2014 9:50:32am |
re: #330 sattv4u2
speaking of bad gas ,,, ANOTHER thing on the To Do list
Tune up the riding mower
I still need to finish planting my quinoa then clear out a spot for borlotti beans. My goal this year is to not have the neighborhood’s tallest dandelion. I’ll be happy with second or third place.
332 | Rightwingconspirator May 4, 2014 9:53:30am |
Historical Flashback-My added bold of course. It may add something to the discussion about Ukraine.
Yeltsin Opposes Expansion Of NATO in Eastern Europe
By ROGER COHEN,
Published: October 2, 1993President Boris N. Yeltsin, apparently under pressure from his armed forces, has sent a letter to President Clinton opposing any expansion of NATO to include East European nations like Poland or the Czech Republic, Western diplomats said today.
Sent after President Yeltsin dissolved Parliament on Sept. 21 and embarked on a collision course with members opposed to his reforms, the letter amounts to sharp retreat from the position the Russian leader outlined during a visit to Warsaw in August. At the time he expressed understanding of Poland’s desire to join NATO and said it did not threaten Russian interests.
“Yeltsin calls it an elaboration of his position, but I’d describe it as furious backpedaling,” one diplomat who has seen a copy of the letter said. Clinton Undecided
NATO officials said that while debate on the issue of expanding the NATO alliance had been intense in Washington in the last month, President Clinton had not made up his mind on the question.
333 | Justanotherhuman May 4, 2014 9:54:07am |
re: #331 Killgore Trout
I still need to finish planting my quinoa then clear out a spot for borlotti beans. My goal this year is to not have the neighborhood’s tallest dandelion. I’ll be happy with second or third place.
I use this. Organic, and I know it’s there all the time.
334 | Killgore Trout May 4, 2014 9:56:58am |
re: #333 Justanotherhuman
I use this. Organic, and I know it’s there all the time.
If you throw a handful of that in the garden it’ll grow. The leaves are very tasty too.
335 | Justanotherhuman May 4, 2014 9:57:27am |
I’d say he’d better watch his back, if comments I’ve read are any indication.
Report: Sinn Fein leader Gerry Adams will be released without charge after being questioned over 1972 murder - @BBCBreaking
end of alert
336 | b_sharp May 4, 2014 10:03:11am |
I have my grandbaby here today. Boy does he demand attention. I can’t go more than 5 minutes without him asking (without words) for me to play on the floor with him.
He’s two years old now and he still isn’t talking. I’m convinced he’s autistic like his older brother and I’m hoping he’s as high functioning as well.
337 | ObserverArt May 4, 2014 10:08:05am |
re: #335 Justanotherhuman
I’d say he’d better watch his back, if comments I’ve read are any indication.
Report: Sinn Fein leader Gerry Adams will be released without charge after being questioned over 1972 murder - @BBCBreaking
end of alert
What’s being said? I haven’t caught too much about the story since they nabbed him the other day.
338 | Justanotherhuman May 4, 2014 10:09:15am |
Damn it.
Circus performers injured during show
“Providence Fire and Rescue are responding to the Dunkin Donuts Center where an unknown number of circus performers fell from rafters during a show Sunday afternoon.
“Multiple rescues are being called to the scene to transport performers to the hospital.
“An NBC 10 news crew is en route and will have the latest on turnto10.com and NBC 10 News at 6.”
339 | Dr Lizardo May 4, 2014 10:10:18am |
340 | jaunte May 4, 2014 10:10:19am |
ICYMI, From 'Darth Vader' To 'The Wolf': A Who's Who Of Putin's Sanctioned 'Insiders' http://t.co/WFv3UxtTCW
— RFE/RL (@RFERL) May 4, 2014
341 | ObserverArt May 4, 2014 10:11:21am |
re: #338 Justanotherhuman
Damn it.
Circus performers injured during show
“Providence Fire and Rescue are responding to the Dunkin Donuts Center where an unknown number of circus performers fell from rafters during a show Sunday afternoon.
“Multiple rescues are being called to the scene to transport performers to the hospital.
“An NBC 10 news crew is en route and will have the latest on turnto10.com and NBC 10 News at 6.”
Not good. That means kids were witnesses.
342 | Dr Lizardo May 4, 2014 10:11:39am |
re: #335 Justanotherhuman
I’d say he’d better watch his back, if comments I’ve read are any indication.
Report: Sinn Fein leader Gerry Adams will be released without charge after being questioned over 1972 murder - @BBCBreaking
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Indeed. In my personal opinion, Mr. Adams is up to his neck in all manner of things from the era of The Troubles.
344 | blueraven May 4, 2014 10:13:18am |
re: #336 b_sharp
I have my grandbaby here today. Boy does he demand attention. I can’t go more than 5 minutes without him asking (without words) for me to play on the floor with him.
He’s two years old now and he still isn’t talking. I’m convinced he’s autistic like his older brother and I’m hoping he’s as high functioning as well.
Perhaps. But my son barely spoke until he was 2.5 years old. I was very concerned and would express that to our pediatrician. He told me to wait a bit and see. Then about that time he started speaking in complete sentences. He is 22 now and has always had an excellent vocabulary beyond his years.
345 | Justanotherhuman May 4, 2014 10:13:42am |
346 | sattv4u2 May 4, 2014 10:16:47am |
re: #331 Killgore Trout
I still need to finish planting my quinoa then clear out a spot for borlotti beans. My goal this year is to not have the neighborhood’s tallest dandelion. I’ll be happy with second of third place.
yeah
My goal this summer was to not have to do all the mowing and weed spraying ,, BUT, ,, my son just told me he’s spending the summer at a friends apartment up near school where he just got a job offer. He’ll come home “some weekends” to help me out (says he) but I’m sure they’ll mostly be spent going to see old friends at night and sleeping all day!!
347 | Justanotherhuman May 4, 2014 10:19:57am |
348 | ObserverArt May 4, 2014 10:22:20am |
re: #345 Justanotherhuman
Just comments from various people who hate Sinn Fein and him, I suppose.
Sinn Féin accused of ‘blackmailing’ PSNI over Gerry Adams
Thanks for the link. The further link in the story is pretty good too. It’s about “Who were the ‘Disappeared’?” And that link breaks off into a whole slew of others on the individual stories. I’m gonna put that in the ‘must read’ bookmarks folder.
I don’t think I’ve ever seen too much on that back in the day much of this was going on. Of course, I was also just out of high school and readying for college…and America had enough of its own political crap going on with Viet Nam, Watergate, etc.
349 | jaunte May 4, 2014 10:24:12am |
re: #347 Justanotherhuman
Three are 55 and under, so fairly young.
350 | missliberties May 4, 2014 10:25:39am |
re: #325 Rev_Arthur_Belling
That post about Benghazi is not reasonable at all. Just because he throws a “avoid partisanship” disclaimer in at the end doesn’t mean it’s “reasonable.” It’s retread GOP bullshit.
More like….
The select Committee to smear Hillary…
351 | jaunte May 4, 2014 10:27:44am |
re: #325 Rev_Arthur_Belling
That post about Benghazi is not reasonable at all. Just because he throws a “avoid partisanship” disclaimer in at the end doesn’t mean it’s “reasonable.” It’s retread GOP bullshit.
Watching the hearings on CSPAN this morning, it’s pretty obvious that the GOP members are trying to get the witnesses to conform to their preferred narrative, even when facts don’t permit.
352 | ObserverArt May 4, 2014 10:33:15am |
re: #346 sattv4u2
yeah
My goal this summer was to not have to do all the mowing and weed spraying ,, BUT, ,, my son just told me he’s spending the summer at a friends apartment up near school where he just got a job offer. He’ll come home “some weekends” to help me out (says he) but I’m sure they’ll mostly be spent going to see old friends at night and sleeping all day!!
I give you credit for remembering how things were when you were younger. I’m not a parent, but it does seems sometimes some parents forget they were kids and how they thought then. You have the real view.
And now…off to stripping a bunch of old white oak woodwork pulled from my hallway. Got a lot to strip and it is beautiful, but has been through the inner city slum-landlord years. It’s too bad too, since it is all quarter-sawn and has the most interesting striping running through it. I figure, even if it has it’s gouges and scrapes and holes, all cleaned up, sanded and stained with a nice clear gloss varnish it is still going to look great.
When I get it done. This part is so, well…gooey, smelly and just sucks. Yuck. Luckily it is only a combination of what appears to be shellac with a coat or two of varnish on top of that.
I still wonder what the hall and staircase must have been like when new. I had a guy that made me some new replacement pocket doors tell me, my front entrance and staircase would fetch some major money if taken out and sold in a place like San Francisco.
353 | sattv4u2 May 4, 2014 10:36:58am |
re: #352 ObserverArt
I give you credit for remembering how things were when you were younger. I’m not a parent, but it does seems sometimes some parents forget they were kids and how they thought then. You have the real view.
Thanks
Wifeys non too happy that her “baby” won;t be here all summer but as I told her (and stated above) he’d be shuttered in his room asleep most of the day and out with friends (or over their houses,, or them over here) so we really wouldn’t see much of him anyway
This way, he earns some money, puts another notch on his resume pre-graduation, and what we DON’T see won;t bother us!!!
354 | Gus May 4, 2014 10:37:06am |
That was a funny Cliven Bundy joke but Obama's policies are more racist than Cliven's words could ever hope to be. #WHCD— Rania Khalek (@RaniaKhalek) May 4, 2014
355 | Charles Johnson May 4, 2014 10:42:22am |
356 | Gus May 4, 2014 10:43:17am |
358 | Sionainn May 4, 2014 10:46:08am |
re: #336 b_sharp
I have my grandbaby here today. Boy does he demand attention. I can’t go more than 5 minutes without him asking (without words) for me to play on the floor with him.
He’s two years old now and he still isn’t talking. I’m convinced he’s autistic like his older brother and I’m hoping he’s as high functioning as well.
Is it just the not talking that makes you think that? Just wondering because my daughter didn’t really speak until just after her 3rd birthday. She watched a lot of “Signing Time” on PBS, so she used signs and facial expressions to communicate with us.
359 | Gus May 4, 2014 10:47:01am |
re: #357 jaunte
Rania “Too many Jews at The Nation” Khalek.
She then went on a rant listing her grievances. Of course they included DRONES!
360 | Rightwingconspirator May 4, 2014 10:47:54am |
re: #346 sattv4u2
Looks like you might just hire some other local kid to earn some summer cash. That’s not all bad.
361 | Charles Johnson May 4, 2014 10:51:30am |
Conor Friedersdork has another ridiculous article about DRONES today, I see.
These people are just play-acting. If they really believed the shit they say, they’d be hiding out and living in abject fear, not writing articles for the Atlantic and posting asinine tweets.
362 | b_sharp May 4, 2014 10:51:52am |
re: #358 Sionainn
Is it just the not talking that makes you think that? Just wondering because my daughter didn’t really speak until just after her 3rd birthday. She watched a lot of “Signing Time” on PBS, so she used signs and facial expressions to communicate with us.
History of autism in the family and several other telltales from my other grandson’s childhood.
363 | sattv4u2 May 4, 2014 10:52:28am |
re: #360 Political Atheist
Looks like you might just hire some other local kid to earn some summer cash. That’s not all bad.
Yeah. The heavy-lifting stuff. The other stuff, I don’t mind. I have a riding mower for the backyard and right side of the driveways front of the house. Directly in front of the house the landscape is too “sculptured” for the rider so I have a regular lawn mower and I may hire someone to shove that around. Carrying the 4 gallon tank sprayer is a pain in the neck (and back, literally) so I would farm that out too
364 | Sionainn May 4, 2014 10:54:46am |
re: #362 b_sharp
History of autism in the family and several other telltales from my other grandson’s childhood.
Got it. Hope you are correct, then, in that he is high functioning. My 22-year-old nephew was finally diagnosed as autistic at age 17, after being diagnosed his whole life as having ADD and being medicated for it. He’s super smart and did very well in school. I just wish his diagnosis had been made when he was very young. There are skills that he could have and should have been working on to help him through life.
365 | jaunte May 4, 2014 10:57:44am |
re: #361 Charles Johnson
He must be watching you.
“…*An earlier version of this article erroneously called the aircraft a drone.”
366 | wrenchwench May 4, 2014 11:01:16am |
Matt Bors is also a fan of hers.
@RaniaKhalek Don't these people going at you also believe racism is a system or effect and not just intent? Your original point was clear.— Matt Bors (@MattBors) May 4, 2014
367 | b_sharp May 4, 2014 11:04:54am |
re: #364 Sionainn
Got it. Hope you are correct, then, in that he is high functioning. My 22-year-old nephew was finally diagnosed as autistic at age 17, after being diagnosed his whole life as having ADD and being medicated for it. He’s super smart and did very well in school. I just wish his diagnosis had been made when he was very young. There are skills that he could have and should have been working on to help him through life.
My daughter was diagnosed late, but my grandkid was diagnosed early enough that he attended special class throughout school and is doing quite well now.