Texas Gov. Rick Perry Indicted by Grand Jury For Abuse of Power

If convicted, the GOP’s rising star for 2016 faces a maximum of 109 years in prison
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Wingnut creationist governor Rick Perry is having a bad day. A very bad day: Texas Governor Rick Perry Indicted by Grand Jury.

AUSTIN (KXAN) - A grand jury has handed up an indictment against Gov. Rick Perry in connection with the investigation into an effort to force Travis County District Attorney Rosemary Lehmberg to resign.

Read the Indictment

At the center of the issue is a complaint about intimidation stemming from Perry’s threat to veto of $7.5 million in state funding to the Public Integrity Unit run by Lehmberg’s office. The threat came after she pleaded guilty to drunk driving and served a 45-day sentence; Perry called on her to step down but she refused to resign her position. Perry then vetoed the funding for the PIU.

A grand jury was called to determine whether or not Perry broke the law when he threatened to veto the funding. As a result they issued indictments on two felony charges: abuse of official capacity and coercion of public servant. If found guilty on the charges, Perry could be sentenced to a maximum 109 years in prison.

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1 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Aug 15, 2014 4:41:16pm

His decision now: Cut a deal and make a mint on talk shows, or face it down and make an even bigger mint/score mad GOP points. Takes the risk of losing but potentially a lot more lucrative.

2 Kid A  Aug 15, 2014 4:41:52pm

Dear God,

Until this day, I doubted that you existed.

Sincerely,

Kid A

3 Dr Lizardo  Aug 15, 2014 4:42:47pm

re: #1 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

His decision now: Cut a deal and make a mint on talk shows, or face it down and make an even bigger mint/score mad GOP points. Takes the risk of losing but potentially a lot more lucrative.

If he loses, he’ll gain instant “political martyr” status in the eyes of the GOP.

4 nines09  Aug 15, 2014 4:43:23pm

Sweet. Very, very, very SWEET. Hoo Hoo!

5 Targetpractice  Aug 15, 2014 4:44:00pm

re: #1 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

His decision now: Cut a deal and make a mint on talk shows, or face it down and make an even bigger mint/score mad GOP points. Takes the risk of losing but potentially a lot more lucrative.

Think it depends on how seriously he takes the possibility of jail time. He seemed to think it pretty serious, as he tried to avoid being seen entering the court house, only to find out the only way through was the door to the office of the very DA he tried to run out of office. So he’ll try to cut a backroom deal that he can quickly bury before next fall.

6 b.d.  Aug 15, 2014 4:45:17pm

Cheer up Rick, you can cut that prison sentence in half with good behavior.

7 Boyo  Aug 15, 2014 4:46:29pm

is it just me or maybe coincidence that all of the “juiciest” news happen to come out on or around friday evening?

8 nines09  Aug 15, 2014 4:47:24pm

re: #1 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

His decision now: Cut a deal and make a mint on talk shows, or face it down and make an even bigger mint/score mad GOP points. Takes the risk of losing but potentially a lot more lucrative.

If he steps down him and Newt “Forever Disgraced Former Speaker Of The House” Gingrich could do a “Tag Team Tour Of GOP Politicians Who Stepped Down To Avoid Jail Time But Hold Their Religious Views Up AS Sacrosanct” Or just call it “Grifters On Parade”.

9 TedStriker  Aug 15, 2014 4:48:06pm
Perry’s attorney released a statement about an hour after his indictment saying:

“The veto in question was made in accordance with the veto authority afforded to every governor under the Texas Constitution. We will continue to aggressively defend the governor’s lawful and constitutional action, and believe we will ultimately prevail.

Keep fucking that pig, hopefully all the way out of office and into the state pen, Governor Perry.

10 lawhawk  Aug 15, 2014 4:48:47pm

re: #7 Boyo

is it just me or maybe coincidence that all of the “juiciest” news happen to come out on or around friday evening?

That’s the joy of a Friday night news dump. It’s like a box of chocolate. You never know what you’re going to get.

11 Teukka  Aug 15, 2014 4:51:02pm

re: #7 Boyo

is it just me or maybe coincidence that all of the “juiciest” news happen to come out on or around friday evening?

No. Neither is astroturfed Wingnut outrage or muddying of the waters shortly before juicy news about their heroes breaks.

12 Lidane  Aug 15, 2014 4:51:12pm

Me right now:

Youtube Video

Hahahahaha… this is awesome. I love it! Fuck you, Rick Perry. :D

13 Boyo  Aug 15, 2014 4:51:53pm

re: #10 lawhawk

low attention span + weekend = the great cleanser

14 Charles Johnson  Aug 15, 2014 4:52:39pm
15 ObserverArt  Aug 15, 2014 4:54:23pm

Didn’t everyone just know something like this was going to come out about Ricky Pee? Too cocky and too I’m gonna do it my way.

There goes his last shot at running for President. He’s done.

And I asked in the last thread, is it time for him to can the glasses if he was wearing them to look smarter? His arrogance just surpassed his smarts.

16 Charles Johnson  Aug 15, 2014 4:54:49pm
17 nines09  Aug 15, 2014 4:54:53pm

Speaking of Jerk Offs…

18 Kid A  Aug 15, 2014 4:55:15pm

I guess the glasses idea didn’t work out so well.

19 Kid A  Aug 15, 2014 4:57:43pm

re: #17 nines09

Speaking of Jerk Offs…..

When did Rush Limbaugh start playing for KISS??!!

20 nines09  Aug 15, 2014 4:59:12pm

re: #19 Kid A

When did Rush Limbaugh start playing for KISS??!!

Fugly, eh? Him and Rush could have a Fug-Off.

21 lawhawk  Aug 15, 2014 4:59:52pm

I have mixed feelings about this indictment (which fits all of two pages). The governor of Texas has a tremendous amount of power and discretion, including line item veto of legislation (it’s a state with a weak legislature). He’s arguably within his rights to deny this agency funding over what he views corruption/malfeasance by an official in the agency.

The stronger of the two counts is coersion of a public official to force them to bend to his will (in other words force a resignation) by withholding the funding for the agency.

As a strong governor state, Texas puts a whole lot of power in the office. There isn’t a whole lot of recourse to decisions made. This case would break new ground in that respect, and if he’s prosecuted and convicted, it would set precedent on the limits of the position.

I’m not sure people would be comfortable with that outcome, since it would open up pretty much any governor in Texas to similar charges on decisions that deny funding. You can argue that this is a one-off case, because of the spat between him and the DA, but the repercussions will be felt for a long time (and not just in TX - other states and other prosecutors will be looking at decisions made that are political but questionable, and prosecute on that basis).

22 jaunte  Aug 15, 2014 5:00:49pm

August, 2013:
Travis County Will Fund Public Integrity Unit

The Travis County Commissioners Court agreed on Tuesday to restore some money to the Travis County district attorney’s Public Integrity Unit after Gov. Rick Perry in June eliminated state funding for the office. The five-member commissioners court voted 4-1 on the proposal, which will cost Travis County taxpayers about $1.8 million next year.

The funding fight was the latest in a series of struggles for embattled Travis County District Attorney Rosemary Lehmberg, who was arrested for and convicted of drunken driving in April. Despite pressure from lawmakers and Perry, Lehmberg refused to resign. Perry cut funding for the integrity unit — which investigates public corruption, insurance fraud and motor fuels tax fraud — for the next two years, arguing in his veto explanation that “the person charged with ultimate responsibility of that unit has lost the public’s confidence.”

……………..

After the hearing, Lehmberg declined to answer questions about the personal fallout from her April conviction, but said she was working “steadfastly” to regain voters’ confidence.

“It is not Rick Perry’s job to fire me or to relieve me,” Lehmberg said. “He did not elect me, Travis County voters elected me, and I answer to them.”

23 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 15, 2014 5:02:26pm
24 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 15, 2014 5:03:21pm

25 Pie-onist Overlord  Aug 15, 2014 5:03:31pm

I’m outta here!

26 Kid A  Aug 15, 2014 5:04:02pm

Fixed News on Perry. *crickets*

27 b.d.  Aug 15, 2014 5:04:09pm

re: #23 Pie-onist Overlord

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He’s not baking a pie is he?

28 Kragar  Aug 15, 2014 5:04:21pm

Operation “Sneak out past the wife to get the kids ice cream” was a complete success

29 TedStriker  Aug 15, 2014 5:04:41pm

re: #17 nines09

Speaking of Jerk Offs…..

re: #19 Kid A

When did Rush Limbaugh start playing for KISS??!!

re: #20 nines09

Fugly, eh? Him and Rush could have a Fug-Off.

WTF, Gene?

30 goddamnedfrank  Aug 15, 2014 5:05:51pm

To be fair Rosemary Lemberg does appear to be a real piece of work. Here’s a video from her booking:

Youtube Video

But the thing is the judicial process played out, she served her time and won a civil lawsuit seeking to remover her from office. My guess though is that Perry only sought to remove her because she’s a lesbian and ran as a democrat. Because otherwise alcoholism and DUI convictions aren’t that big a deal in Texas politics. Texas didn’t even have an open container law until 2001, and only acquiesced to avoid losing federal highway funds.

31 Kragar  Aug 15, 2014 5:05:54pm
32 b.d.  Aug 15, 2014 5:06:56pm
33 jaunte  Aug 15, 2014 5:08:22pm

re: #30 goddamnedfrank

Kevin Brady has represented the 8th District in Texas since 1996, was convicted of a DUI in 2005 and re-elected handily.

34 jamesfirecat  Aug 15, 2014 5:09:05pm

So just so I understand this, the issue that the owner of a company did something that was bad, Perry said step down or I punish your company, she did not and he punished the company?

So much for corporations being people….

35 TedStriker  Aug 15, 2014 5:09:11pm

re: #32 b.d.

For the sake of Texas, Governor Perry should resign following his indictment on two criminal felony counts involving abuse of office.
— Joaquin Castro (@JoaquinCastrotx) August 15, 2014

Nice thought, but it’ll never happen; Perry will have to be dragged out of the governor’s mansion.

36 b.d.  Aug 15, 2014 5:09:13pm

Statement from the Texas Democratic Party:

Austin, TX - Rick Perry was just indicted on two counts of abuse of official capacity and coercion. Texas Democratic Party Chairman Gilberto Hinojosa released the following statement:

“Governor Rick Perry has brought dishonor to his office, his family and the state of Texas. Texans deserve to have leaders that stand up for what is right and work to help families across Texas. The indictment today shows a failure of Governor Perry to follow the law. This is systematic of a broader problem: Ken Paxton is facing a possible indictment and Attorney General Abbott has refused to rule on whether Governor Perry can use taxpayer dollars to cover his legal expenses.

We call on Governor Perry to immediately step down from office.

Texans deserve real leadership and this is unbecoming of our Governor.”

burntorangereport.com

37 klys  Aug 15, 2014 5:09:45pm

re: #34 jamesfirecat

So just so I understand this, the issue that the owner of a company did something that was bad, Perry said step down or I punish your company, she did not and he punished the company?

So much for corporations being people….

Well, if by company you mean district attorney…

38 Kid A  Aug 15, 2014 5:10:11pm

re: #33 jaunte

Kevin Brady has represented the 8th District in Texas since 1996, was convicted of a DUI in 2005 and re-elected handily.

He’s in my district.

39 Charles Johnson  Aug 15, 2014 5:10:46pm
40 lawhawk  Aug 15, 2014 5:11:21pm

re: #14 Charles Johnson

And the Democrat that “pushed” worked in law enforcement, and the rule was never adopted. His argument is essentially the same as the Ferguson PD, and other LEOs who didn’t want to release the officer’s name. It’s a position that has support within the LEO community, but is antithetical to an open police force with proper oversight.

41 Kid A  Aug 15, 2014 5:11:25pm

He will never resign. This will be the biggest fundraising tactic for Perry this state has ever seen. Trust me.

42 jaunte  Aug 15, 2014 5:11:43pm

re: #39 Charles Johnson

Just like clockwork.

43 goddamnedfrank  Aug 15, 2014 5:12:01pm

re: #34 jamesfirecat

So just so I understand this, the issue that the owner of a company did something that was bad, Perry said step down or I punish your company, she did not and he punished the company?

So much for corporations being people….

Not a company, a State prosecutorial department, ironically the one that investigates ethical breaches by politicians.

44 jaunte  Aug 15, 2014 5:13:02pm

Oh yes. Don’t throw us in that Perry Patch!

45 Kid A  Aug 15, 2014 5:13:12pm

re: #39 Charles Johnson

You were saying?…

46 wrenchwench  Aug 15, 2014 5:13:52pm
47 jamesfirecat  Aug 15, 2014 5:14:09pm

re: #43 goddamnedfrank

Not a company, a State prosecutorial department, ironically the one that investigates ethical breaches by politicians.

Wow really?

So Perry is going to be getting his ass investigated by the friends /coworkers of the person he tried to blackmail?

I am gonna need more popcorn…

48 Kragar  Aug 15, 2014 5:14:21pm

re: #42 jaunte

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Just like clockwork.

49 jamesfirecat  Aug 15, 2014 5:14:25pm

re: #46 wrenchwench

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Oops.

50 nines09  Aug 15, 2014 5:16:33pm

re: #48 Kragar

All of them and don’t forget the Muslim Brotherhood.

51 TedStriker  Aug 15, 2014 5:16:52pm

re: #48 Kragar

The Bilderburgers.

52 b.d.  Aug 15, 2014 5:17:11pm

So the old adage is true, a grand jury will indict a ham.

53 nines09  Aug 15, 2014 5:17:32pm

re: #48 Kragar

The Cartels and The Kenyans too.

54 piratedan  Aug 15, 2014 5:17:47pm

re: #48 Kragar

my real estate agent has said that there is a real dearth of dormant volcano lairs available on the market….. curse you Obama!

55 Kid A  Aug 15, 2014 5:17:56pm
56 b.d.  Aug 15, 2014 5:18:35pm
57 lawhawk  Aug 15, 2014 5:19:29pm

re: #55 Kid A

Oh, and if he is convicted (which I’m dubious of), he’d never be able to handle a firearm again. Ouchie.

58 Kragar  Aug 15, 2014 5:20:02pm

re: #51 TedStriker

The Bilderburgers.

I still plan to run a chain of libertarian themed diners called “Bilderburgers”

59 Kid A  Aug 15, 2014 5:20:20pm

re: #56 b.d.

60 piratedan  Aug 15, 2014 5:21:18pm

re: #56 b.d.

its as if the GOP has a real issue with the DNC actually fundraising on the real foibles of GOP politicians and the things that they say and do in public. I guess that’s the problem with the damn media these days, you denigrate it, you buy it and once you do, nobody believes it anymore.

61 jaunte  Aug 15, 2014 5:21:45pm
Mr. Perry appeared to take the investigation into his actions in the Lehmberg case seriously, hiring a prominent defense lawyer, David Botsford, to represent him. According to information on the state comptroller’s web site, the governor’s office has paid Mr. Botsford nearly $80,000 since June.
mobile.nytimes.com
62 Kragar  Aug 15, 2014 5:21:58pm
63 Kid A  Aug 15, 2014 5:21:58pm

re: #57 lawhawk

Oh, and if he is convicted (which I’m dubious of), he’d never be able to handle a firearm again. Ouchie.

He won’t be convicted, but he will raise a shitload of money because the wingnuts will make him a martyr.

64 De Kolta Chair  Aug 15, 2014 5:23:01pm

If he does end up spending time breaking rocks, I can think of one he can start with that begins with an N.

65 b.d.  Aug 15, 2014 5:24:20pm

re: #59 Kid A

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The official wingnut approved candidate list only does contain 3 names right now, right?
*Dr. Ben Carson
*Ted Cruz
*Rick Perry

Am I leaving anyone off?

66 jaunte  Aug 15, 2014 5:24:36pm

NYT:

[Ms. Lehmberg] plays a powerful role in Austin in overseeing the Public Integrity Unit. At the time of Mr. Perry’s veto last year, prosecutors in the unit had been investigating a state agency called the Cancer Prevention and Research Institute of Texas, which finances cancer research and prevention programs. The agency — one of Mr. Perry’s signature initiatives — came under scrutiny by state lawmakers after accusations of mismanagement and corruption; a former official there was indicted last year for his handling of an $11 million grant.
mobile.nytimes.com

67 jaunte  Aug 15, 2014 5:25:19pm

Former CPRIT Executive Indicted on Charges of Deception

A Travis County grand jury has indicted Jerry Cobbs, a former high-ranking official with the Cancer Prevention and Research Institute of Texas, on charges that he unlawfully secured the execution of an $11 million grant for Peloton Therapeutics, a Dallas-based biotechnology firm.

The Travis County Public Integrity Unit opened an investigation into former CPRIT officials shortly after the CPRIT Oversight Committee disclosed in November 2012 that the institute had awarded that grant without proper scientific review.

68 Dave In Austin  Aug 15, 2014 5:25:37pm

So how many Texans do we have on this board anyway???

69 jaunte  Aug 15, 2014 5:27:00pm

re: #68 Dave In Austin

Seven or eight that I know of, probably more.

70 b.d.  Aug 15, 2014 5:27:06pm

re: #68 Dave In Austin

So how many Texans do we have on this board anyway???

Ft. Worth here.

71 Kragar  Aug 15, 2014 5:27:06pm
72 Charles Johnson  Aug 15, 2014 5:28:21pm
73 nines09  Aug 15, 2014 5:29:14pm

re: #65 b.d.

The official wingnut approved candidate list only does contain 3 names right now, right?
*Dr. Ben Carson
*Ted Cruz
*Rick Perry

Am I leaving anyone off?

List Of Potential Saviors Of The ‘Merican Scheme

74 Lidane  Aug 15, 2014 5:29:28pm

re: #72 Charles Johnson

Being an open lesbian is an abuse of power? Wow. Someone tell Ellen DeGeneres.

75 Kragar  Aug 15, 2014 5:29:38pm

re: #72 Charles Johnson

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So what?

76 Charles Johnson  Aug 15, 2014 5:29:42pm
77 Charles Johnson  Aug 15, 2014 5:29:58pm
78 jaunte  Aug 15, 2014 5:30:13pm

2012:

Cancer Cronyism

“…Six years ago, the Cancer Prevention and Research Institute of Texas (CPRIT) was founded. Voters funded the institute with $3 billion of bonded indebtedness over 10 years.
………….

“…News reports indicate the best formula for winning a grant from CPRIT involves having a political connection to either the governor or lieutenant governor of Texas. One significant campaign donor to Rick Perry didn’t even go into the cancer cure business until after CPRIT was founded, and then he got the millions he needed from the taxpayer fund. An $18 million dollar grant was awarded to a Houston cancer project after pressure from a politically connected venture capitalist that had given $360,000 to the campaigns of Dewhurst. The proposal had undergone only a cursory review, which originally resulted in rejection. “

Loot!

79 Stanley Sea  Aug 15, 2014 5:30:22pm

re: #23 Pie-onist Overlord

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Awesome!!!!!

80 b.d.  Aug 15, 2014 5:31:06pm

re: #73 nines09

List Of Potential Saviors Of The ‘Merican Scheme

LOL, Scott Walker.

I imagine they’ll howl again when he gets indicted too.

81 Kid A  Aug 15, 2014 5:31:25pm

re: #70 b.d.

Ft. Worth here.

The Woodlands here. The reddest county in Texas, if not the country, sadly.

82 Eventual Carrion  Aug 15, 2014 5:31:50pm

re: #72 Charles Johnson

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If he’s done nothing wrong, he has nothing to worry about.

83 jaunte  Aug 15, 2014 5:33:38pm

re: #81 Kid A

Spring Branch here, almost on I-10.

84 nines09  Aug 15, 2014 5:33:46pm

re: #80 b.d.

LOL, Scott Walker.

I imagine they’ll howl again when he gets indicted too.

It’s like a Roll Call Of Future Potential Parolees.

85 lawhawk  Aug 15, 2014 5:34:23pm
86 Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 15, 2014 5:34:23pm

Sooo…Dewhurst might get to be governor after all?

hahahahahaaaa

87 prairiefire  Aug 15, 2014 5:34:37pm

re: #23 Pie-onist Overlord

He looks good! Has he been watching his weight?

88 Stanley Sea  Aug 15, 2014 5:35:59pm

re: #64 De Kolta Chair

If he does end up spending time breaking rocks, I can think of one he can start with that begins with an N.

DING!!!

89 Kragar  Aug 15, 2014 5:36:54pm
90 Charles Johnson  Aug 15, 2014 5:37:58pm

Do you believe that asshole Andrew Marcus? That’s how he deals with a direct question about linking to a white supremacist group? Good fucking grief.

91 b.d.  Aug 15, 2014 5:38:13pm

I’d bet that Perry now gets around to that issue of air conditioning Texas prisons before he leaves office.

//

92 nines09  Aug 15, 2014 5:39:39pm

re: #90 Charles Johnson

Must not be a big deal to him or his readers. Think about that.

93 blueraven  Aug 15, 2014 5:40:27pm

The investigation into Perry’s signature agency - the Cancer Prevention and Research Institute of Texas - by the district attorney’s office continued after the veto.

In December, a former CPRIT director was indicted for steering an $11 million award past normal vetting procedures. The funding went to Peloton Therapeutics, whose big investor also was a large donor to Perry.

94 De Kolta Chair  Aug 15, 2014 5:40:41pm

Public Integrity Unit? At least now we know what that third department was Perry couldn’t remember wanting to get rid of.

Oops!

95 allegro  Aug 15, 2014 5:41:18pm

re: #68 Dave In Austin

So how many Texans do we have on this board anyway???

Houston here.

96 majii  Aug 15, 2014 5:41:52pm

If Perry is asked about this while he’s on his early campaign for POTUS, I won’t be surprised if he blames his indictment on the president or democrats and accuses us of trying to derail his presidential campaign. The sad thing will be witnessing the way the RWers close ranks around him and defend him, even though he’s been indicted. They are so predictable.

97 Bubblehead II  Aug 15, 2014 5:42:42pm

[lurkon] Evening Lizards. Just a fly by post to wish you all well. [/lurkon]

98 Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 15, 2014 5:42:43pm

re: #68 Dave In Austin

So how many Texans do we have on this board anyway???

MrBWS’s brother lives in Mesquite, does that count?

99 jaunte  Aug 15, 2014 5:42:57pm
100 Kragar  Aug 15, 2014 5:45:03pm
101 ausador  Aug 15, 2014 5:45:41pm

re: #21 lawhawk

I have mixed feelings about this indictment (which fits all of two pages). The governor of Texas has a tremendous amount of power and discretion, including line item veto of legislation (it’s a state with a weak legislature). He’s arguably within his rights to deny this agency funding over what he views corruption/malfeasance by an official in the agency.

The stronger of the two counts is coersion of a public official to force them to bend to his will (in other words force a resignation) by withholding the funding for the agency.

As a strong governor state, Texas puts a whole lot of power in the office. There isn’t a whole lot of recourse to decisions made. This case would break new ground in that respect, and if he’s prosecuted and convicted, it would set precedent on the limits of the position.

I’m not sure people would be comfortable with that outcome, since it would open up pretty much any governor in Texas to similar charges on decisions that deny funding. You can argue that this is a one-off case, because of the spat between him and the DA, but the repercussions will be felt for a long time (and not just in TX - other states and other prosecutors will be looking at decisions made that are political but questionable, and prosecute on that basis).

True, but I think the complaint here is not that he used the veto, it is that he said “If you don’t resign I will veto your departments funding” and then he did it. He implicated himself in coercion by publicly making the threat previous to his subsequent action.

Not that I think that this will go anywhere, but technically it does seem to fit the statutory requirement for the charge.

102 Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 15, 2014 5:46:05pm
103 Eventual Carrion  Aug 15, 2014 5:46:45pm

re: #95 allegro

Houston here.

Lived ~12 years in Houston. My oldest son and his wife live and teach school in San Antonio. I left in ‘91. Can’t really say I miss it much, I like the seasons I grew up with here in PA (although it has been weird this summer).

104 Kragar  Aug 15, 2014 5:47:09pm

Whoa, Stonekettle is going off:

When the police refer to the black population as “animals,” on record, to a reporter, it’s about race.

When the population is predominately black and the police force is predominately white, it’s about race.

When the dialog focuses on the dead teenager’s appearance, his clothing, his friends, his school record, his family, his habits and haunts and hangouts, when the media publically debates whether he was a “good son” or a “thug,” it’s about race.

When the media openly speculates about the victim’s possible drug use or criminal history, it’s about race.

When your perception of the dead teen’s guilt or innocence is determined by which political party you belong to or which political pundit you listen to, it’s about race.

When you attempt to justify the death of a black teenager because other black people smashed windows and lit shit on fire in protest, it’s about race.

105 Skip Intro  Aug 15, 2014 5:48:01pm

This is actually a brilliant campaign tactic by Perry. He’ll raise more money and get more free air time on all of the RWNJ outlets than his competitors. As an added bonus, he’s a victim, a Christian man being oppressed by an evil devil-worshiping lesbian.

Maybe those glasses really did make him smarter.

106 jaunte  Aug 15, 2014 5:48:06pm
107 Lidane  Aug 15, 2014 5:49:38pm

re: #99 jaunte

They won’t. He’s a rich white guy. He’ll be okay.

108 jaunte  Aug 15, 2014 5:50:41pm
109 Lidane  Aug 15, 2014 5:50:58pm

re: #21 lawhawk

Texas is actually a WEAK governor state. Perry doesn’t have much power of his own. The real power is in the hands of the Lt. Governor because they run the Legislature.

110 De Kolta Chair  Aug 15, 2014 5:51:27pm

On a lighter note, my nephew turned 21 a couple of weeks ago and has been doing a bang up job buying me drinks at several of the dive bars I’ve taken him to since he was a toddler.

111 Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 15, 2014 5:51:45pm

re: #108 jaunte

112 jaunte  Aug 15, 2014 5:52:48pm

Open, like right out in front of the bears and everyone.

113 b.d.  Aug 15, 2014 5:52:59pm

re: #108 jaunte

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YOU’RE A LESBIAN, YOUR INDICTMENT IS INVALID

114 jaunte  Aug 15, 2014 5:55:02pm

Texas Gov. Rick Perry was indicted Friday by a grand jury* for allegedly abusing his power by carrying out a threat to withhold funds from state prosecutors working in the public corruption unit.

nydailynews.com

*orientation unknown

115 RealityBasedSteve  Aug 15, 2014 5:55:37pm

re: #111 Backwoods_Sleuth

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I heard that having an open lesbian in the barn makes the cows milk go sour. /true_fact

RBS

116 Kragar  Aug 15, 2014 5:55:41pm
117 Belafon  Aug 15, 2014 5:56:43pm

re: #21 lawhawk

Other than the line item veto, the Texas governor is the weakest in the country. It can appoint only one office. It doesn’t have anything to do with budgets. It can call special sessions.

118 allegro  Aug 15, 2014 5:57:20pm

re: #116 Kragar

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She stuffed the grand jury with lesbians.

119 jaunte  Aug 15, 2014 5:57:57pm

re: #118 allegro

What are all these Greek islanders doing on a Texas jury?

120 lawhawk  Aug 15, 2014 5:57:59pm

re: #109 Lidane

Arguable, considering that Perry’s now had the ability to turn over control of pretty much every agency he can appoint to his lackeys and political cronies.

121 allegro  Aug 15, 2014 5:58:33pm

re: #118 allegro

She stuffed the grand jury with lesbians.

Her COVEN of lesbians.

122 William of Orange  Aug 15, 2014 5:59:21pm

Hahaha!

So now we truly have here a Republican Rod Blagojevic.

123 allegro  Aug 15, 2014 5:59:49pm

re: #122 William of Orange

Hahaha!

So now we truly have here a Republican Rod Blagojevic.

He’s got better hair.

124 RealityBasedSteve  Aug 15, 2014 5:59:51pm

re: #121 allegro

Her COVEN of lesbians.

I thought a large group of lesbians was referred to as a soft-ball team.

RBS

125 Kragar  Aug 15, 2014 6:00:15pm
126 Eventual Carrion  Aug 15, 2014 6:00:29pm

re: #121 allegro

Her COVEN of lesbians.

Bakers dozen of ‘em.

127 jaunte  Aug 15, 2014 6:00:42pm
128 Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 15, 2014 6:00:46pm

re: #119 jaunte

What are all these Greek islanders doing on a Texas jury?

I thought they were all actors?!

129 De Kolta Chair  Aug 15, 2014 6:01:22pm

re: #124 RealityBasedSteve

I thought a large group of lesbians was referred to as a soft-ball team.

RBS

That’s an underhanded remark.

130 allegro  Aug 15, 2014 6:01:23pm

re: #124 RealityBasedSteve

I thought a large group of lesbians was referred to as a soft-ball team.

RBS

Not for WITCH hunts!

Ba da boom

131 Lidane  Aug 15, 2014 6:01:25pm

re: #122 William of Orange

Hahaha!

So now we truly have here a Republican Rod Blagojevic.

Yes, but with better hair.

132 klys  Aug 15, 2014 6:02:34pm

Regarding the tweet above about possible motive, with the investigation into funding decisions for a separate agency, who would have taken control of that if she had resigned? Anyone familiar with it and able to say?

133 De Kolta Chair  Aug 15, 2014 6:04:18pm

re: #127 jaunte

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Anyone who runs is a lesbian! Anyone who stands still is a well-disciplined lesbian!

134 Kragar  Aug 15, 2014 6:04:19pm
135 Charles Johnson  Aug 15, 2014 6:05:05pm
136 Gus  Aug 15, 2014 6:05:46pm
137 allegro  Aug 15, 2014 6:05:57pm

I don’t think Josh is very smart.

138 Stanley Sea  Aug 15, 2014 6:06:22pm

re: #123 allegro

He’s got better hair.

re: #131 Lidane

Yes, but with better hair.

WTF you Texans!

Blago was a Pantene commercial.

139 Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 15, 2014 6:06:39pm

BEE!!!!

140 allegro  Aug 15, 2014 6:07:32pm

re: #138 Stanley Sea

WTF you Texans!

Blago was a Pantene commercial.

An homage to Molly Ivens who coined the term Governor Goodhair.

141 Kid A  Aug 15, 2014 6:07:44pm

Oh, for fuck’s sake.

142 b.d.  Aug 15, 2014 6:07:46pm

OPEN CARRY - YES!
OPEN LESBIANS - NO!

143 De Kolta Chair  Aug 15, 2014 6:08:01pm

re: #137 allegro

I don’t think Josh is very smart.

And judging by his avatar, his Star Trek cosplay is only ho hum.

144 Skip Intro  Aug 15, 2014 6:08:15pm

re: #127 jaunte

What’s he hunting in that pic? Border crossers? Or is this a ride at the VietNamLand amusement park?

Shouldn’t he, at least, be wearing his glasses?

145 allegro  Aug 15, 2014 6:08:20pm

Garr I hate autocorrect so much.

146 jaunte  Aug 15, 2014 6:08:54pm

re: #100 Kragar

Apparently mentioning race whistles up the legions of the uninformed:

…..

147 Kragar  Aug 15, 2014 6:09:21pm
148 RealityBasedSteve  Aug 15, 2014 6:10:16pm

re: #142 b.d.

OPEN CARRY - YES!
OPEN LESBIANS - NO!

What about Open Carry Lesbians? (sounds like something Q. Tarantino would do)

RBS

149 Charles Johnson  Aug 15, 2014 6:10:32pm
150 Skip Intro  Aug 15, 2014 6:11:03pm

re: #148 RealityBasedSteve

What about Open Carry Lesbians? (sounds like something Q. Tarantino would do)

RBS

That would have made a great movie title in the 1970s.

151 lawhawk  Aug 15, 2014 6:11:05pm

re: #148 RealityBasedSteve

That’s Fox Force Five.

152 Lidane  Aug 15, 2014 6:11:38pm

re: #138 Stanley Sea

WTF you Texans!

Blago was a Pantene commercial.

Pfft. Blago looked like a cross between Mayor Quimby and Donald Trump’s toupee.

153 Lidane  Aug 15, 2014 6:12:40pm

re: #140 allegro

An homage to Molly Ivens who coined the term Governor Goodhair.

Yep. She also called George W. “Shrub” since he was the little Bush.

154 Charles Johnson  Aug 15, 2014 6:13:01pm
155 klys  Aug 15, 2014 6:13:05pm

Now, now, there’s plenty of awards to give out at the corrupt governor beauty pageant.

156 WhatEVs  Aug 15, 2014 6:13:40pm

re: #56 b.d.

157 lawhawk  Aug 15, 2014 6:14:12pm

re: #154 Charles Johnson

An overflowing sewer system after a foot of rain fell in 2 hours. Not too shabby for someone constantly being reminded that they’re irrelevant by the same bunch of nutters.

158 Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 15, 2014 6:14:56pm
159 Gus  Aug 15, 2014 6:15:17pm

Wingnuts are so weird.

160 De Kolta Chair  Aug 15, 2014 6:15:51pm

re: #156 Joanne

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Your first choice is Ted Cruz, second is Perry and third…uhm…Ooops

That is funny as all get out.

161 Backwoods_Sleuth  Aug 15, 2014 6:15:51pm
162 Kragar  Aug 15, 2014 6:16:42pm

re: #154 Charles Johnson

163 Gus  Aug 15, 2014 6:16:48pm

re: #154 Charles Johnson

[Embedded content]

Stormfront -> @gatewaypundit -> Drudge Report -> Fox News -> GOP

164 lawhawk  Aug 15, 2014 6:17:43pm
165 De Kolta Chair  Aug 15, 2014 6:17:53pm

re: #161 Backwoods_Sleuth

Being indicted will help Rick Perry in 2016. In fact, not being indicted will end up being a seriously liability in the GOP primary.

The last GOP prez primary was all about selling books and the 2016 primaries will be all about being booked.

166 RealityBasedSteve  Aug 15, 2014 6:17:57pm

re: #151 lawhawk

That’s Fox Force Five.

I had to look that one up… and almost disapeared into a blackhole regarding the “tarantino-verse” and the ties to Kill Bill.

Extra ++++’s to you for it.

RBS

167 Charles Johnson  Aug 15, 2014 6:18:27pm

re: #163 Gus

Stormfront -> @gatewaypundit -> Drudge Report -> Fox News -> GOP

Yes, but the GOP carefully removes the overtly racist elements.

168 freetoken  Aug 15, 2014 6:20:10pm

Speaking of Texas, the Dallas Morning News online edition pimped ICR with a poorly researched, or maybe even intentionally ambiguous, article:

Dallas researchers out to scientifically prove biblical version of creation

It’s a whole bunch of MBF.

169 b.d.  Aug 15, 2014 6:20:34pm

re: #167 Charles Johnson

Yes, but the GOP carefully removes the overtly racist elements.

The telephone game applied to the wingnut media.

170 Kid A  Aug 15, 2014 6:20:41pm

re: #166 RealityBasedSteve

I had to look that one up… and almost disapeared into a blackhole regarding the “tarantino-verse” and the ties to Kill Bill.

Extra ++++’s to you for it.

RBS

Pulp Fiction, I thought.

171 lawhawk  Aug 15, 2014 6:20:59pm

re: #166 RealityBasedSteve

I had to look that one up… and almost disapeared into a blackhole regarding the “tarantino-verse” and the ties to Kill Bill.

Extra ++++’s to you for it.

RBS

That’s the Deadly Viper Assassination Squad.

Fox Force Five was the fictional tv show pilot that Mia Wallace starred in and talked about over dinner with Vincent Vega in Pulp Fiction.

172 Kid A  Aug 15, 2014 6:21:27pm

re: #171 lawhawk

++++++

173 jaunte  Aug 15, 2014 6:22:48pm

re: #168 freetoken

Christian apologetics are in Morris’ blood. His father, Henry Madison Morris, founded creation science. A college professor and hydraulic engineer, he co-authored The Genesis Flood in 1961, which argued that the epic biblical rainstorm was responsible for the geologic signatures scientists use to support their theory of an ancient planet.

The earth doesn’t look old, creationists say, it looks flooded. Morris founded ICR in San Diego in 1970, as a research arm of the growing “young-earth” creationist movement. The nonprofit moved to Dallas in 2006 and now employs six members of the Morris family.dallasnews.com

Very comfy.

174 wrenchwench  Aug 15, 2014 6:23:29pm

Later, lizards.

175 jaunte  Aug 15, 2014 6:24:27pm

re: #168 freetoken

That article actually has the “if the oceans were so old, they would be saltier” claim.

176 RealityBasedSteve  Aug 15, 2014 6:24:44pm

re: #171 lawhawk

That’s the Deadly Viper Assassination Squad.

Fox Force Five was the fictional tv show pilot that Mia Wallace starred in and talked about over dinner with Vincent Vega in Pulp Fiction.

yes…. but you can draw a connection from Fox Five to the Deadly Viper Assassination Squad…

reddit.com

177 De Kolta Chair  Aug 15, 2014 6:25:53pm

re: #171 lawhawk

That’s the Deadly Viper Assassination Squad.

Fox Force Five was the fictional tv show pilot that Mia Wallace starred in and talked about over dinner with Vincent Vega in Pulp Fiction.

The Kill Bill’s are my favorite flicks by Q, though Inglourious Basterds is a close second if only for showing Hitler getting his face shot off. That’s entertainment!

178 lawhawk  Aug 15, 2014 6:25:58pm

re: #176 RealityBasedSteve

True. It was the pilot brought to “real” life in the Quentin-universe.

179 Charles Johnson  Aug 15, 2014 6:27:16pm
180 freetoken  Aug 15, 2014 6:29:52pm

re: #175 jaunte

The DMN website embeds the propaganda piece from ICR without any comment.

It’s a video full of errors.

But DMN is presenting it as some sort of “news”.

181 freetoken  Aug 15, 2014 6:31:10pm

Remember, the DMN exists solely to make money for its owners.

And in Texas they probably can make more money catering to creationists than in correcting them.

182 Stanley Sea  Aug 15, 2014 6:33:47pm
183 Fairly Sure I'm Still Obdicut  Aug 15, 2014 6:36:59pm

re: #182 Stanley Sea

That could be a coroner’s vehicle.

184 Stanley Sea  Aug 15, 2014 6:40:29pm

EMT wasn’t called? Coroner only?

185 De Kolta Chair  Aug 15, 2014 6:40:54pm

re: #183 Fairly Sure I’m Still Obdicut

That could be a coroner’s vehicle.

The coroner’sre: #182 Stanley Sea

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I don’t know about that. My late sainted mother-in-law was taken away in a similar conveyance, and by very nice folks too.

186 darthstar  Aug 15, 2014 6:41:00pm
187 klys  Aug 15, 2014 6:41:10pm

re: #184 Stanley Sea

EMT wasn’t called? Coroner only?

Supposedly the ambulance stopped by on their way back from another call.

They would not have stayed once it was established that he had passed.

188 WhatEVs  Aug 15, 2014 6:41:45pm

re: #184 Stanley Sea

EMT wasn’t called? Coroner only?

After being shot several times I find it unlikely that EMT was needed. And did the cop really want a surviving victim witness?

189 William of Orange  Aug 15, 2014 6:42:22pm

100 YEARS AGO TODAY.

The Panama canal was opened.

190 Rightwingconspirator  Aug 15, 2014 6:44:34pm

re: #182 Stanley Sea

Dispatch logs will tell if medical assistance was summoned.

191 Stanley Sea  Aug 15, 2014 6:45:36pm

re: #190 Rightwingconspirator

Dispatch logs will tell if medical assistance was summoned.

I think they said they were called.

192 Stanley Sea  Aug 15, 2014 6:46:04pm

re: #191 Stanley Sea

I think they said they were called.

What ev. It’s all fucked up.

193 De Kolta Chair  Aug 15, 2014 6:46:23pm

re: #189 William of Orange

100 YEARS AGO TODAY.

The Panama canal was opened.

The New Yorker recently ran a very interesting piece about a rival canal being planned to cross Nicaragua that’s being bankrolled by a shadowy Chinese billionaire. Very fishy.

newyorker.com

Btw, the New Yorker site is totally free through September, including their archives.

194 Charles Johnson  Aug 15, 2014 6:48:28pm
195 bratwurst  Aug 15, 2014 6:50:39pm

re: #193 De Kolta Chair

The New Yorker recently ran a very interesting piece about a rival canal being planned to cross Nicaragua that’s being bankrolled by a shadowy Chinese billionaire. Very fishy.

newyorker.com

I paged this story 6 months ago. I think the bottom line is that all of the Chinese money in the world is going to have an extremely hard time overcoming the major geographic challenges.

196 freetoken  Aug 15, 2014 6:51:47pm

re: #194 Charles Johnson

Let me get this straight - a guy who in one sentence claims Satan is the source of Obama’s whatever in the next sentence is calling you a troll?

197 Skip Intro  Aug 15, 2014 6:52:47pm

re: #194 Charles Johnson

Probably because those hate groups are going to be a key GOP constituency by 2016. As the Fox News/Talk Radio audience dies off, the GOP has to look somewhere to keep the party alive.

198 De Kolta Chair  Aug 15, 2014 6:52:47pm

re: #195 bratwurst

I paged this story 6 months ago. I think the bottom line is that all of the Chinese money in the world is going to have an extremely hard time overcoming the major geographic challenges.

Thanks much for reminding me of your very insightful article, and I agree with the points you made.

199 freetoken  Aug 15, 2014 6:53:19pm

re: #195 bratwurst

I paged this story 6 months ago. I think the bottom line is that all of the Chinese money in the world is going to have an extremely hard time overcoming the major geographic challenges.

But, once all the water melts in Antarctica then a canal through Nicaragua will be more straightforward.

200 RealityBasedSteve  Aug 15, 2014 6:53:47pm

I have a problem in the house with drosophila melanogaster. Apparently a piece of fruit has fallen somewhere behind my desk, because I now have a swarm of fruit flies. Could be worse, they don’t bite, they aren’t creepy, I remember having milk bottles full of them in high school biology, and breeding them to get my mutant breed of red-eyed dwarf winged fruitflies.

RBS

201 Eventual Carrion  Aug 15, 2014 6:56:02pm

re: #195 bratwurst

I paged this story 6 months ago. I think the bottom line is that all of the Chinese money in the world is going to have an extremely hard time overcoming the major geographic challenges.

I was just looking at a map of Nicaragua and the shortest route from one side to the other is right through a huge reserve. Plus through Lake Nicaragua, bringing all kinds of foreign critters in to fuck with the ecosystem.

202 Skip Intro  Aug 15, 2014 6:56:33pm

re: #199 freetoken

But, once all the water melts in Antarctica then a canal through Nicaragua will be more straightforward.

I read the other day that because of climate change, the Panama Canal is going to have trouble getting enough water to fill the locks from the lakes it relies on.

theguardian.com

203 bratwurst  Aug 15, 2014 6:57:17pm

re: #201 Eventual Carrion

I was just looking at a map of Nicaragua and the shortest route from one side to the other is right through a huge reserve. Plus through Lake Nicaragua, bringing all kinds of foreign critters in to fuck with the ecosystem.

It is an environmental catastrophe in the making, and the lake itself is only about half as deep as it would need to be anyway!

204 De Kolta Chair  Aug 15, 2014 6:57:27pm

re: #199 freetoken

But, once all the water melts in Antarctica then a canal through Nicaragua will be more straightforward.

After the Yellowstone Caldera blows, it’ll be smooth sailing from China to Europe, so how do you like them apples, Daniel Smartypantalones Ortega?!!

205 Charles Johnson  Aug 15, 2014 6:57:39pm
206 freetoken  Aug 15, 2014 6:57:50pm

re: #203 bratwurst

It is an environmental catastrophe in the making, and the lake itself is only about half as deep as it would need to be anyway!

Nothing 200 feet of sea level rise can’t solve.

207 freetoken  Aug 15, 2014 6:59:00pm

re: #205 Charles Johnson

You are asking someone who believes that - (1) Lucifer is real and (2) really behind Obama - to be serious.

Good luck.

208 Rightwingconspirator  Aug 15, 2014 6:59:10pm

re: #192 Stanley Sea

What ev. It’s all fucked up.

Indeed. Holding feet to the fire is next for county and city PD. With power must come accountability.

209 Lidane  Aug 15, 2014 7:00:37pm
210 Varek Raith  Aug 15, 2014 7:01:24pm

Those are some serious charges.
Yeesh.

211 freetoken  Aug 15, 2014 7:03:16pm

What gets me about that DMN creationism piece is that it is clearly been put up for a reason. Yes, ultimately to make money for the owners of the DMN, but I mean reasons more immediate.

The writer is a regular on the paper, even an award winner. I have a hard time believing he couldn’t have submitted a hundred different stories on other topics.

Why the story appears at this time is what I am wondering. Could it be related to the upcoming elections?

212 De Kolta Chair  Aug 15, 2014 7:03:29pm

re: #205 Charles Johnson

[Embedded content]

The irony of righties attacking Alinsky is that his book “Rules for Radicals” is a veritable textbook for Teabaggers. The least they could do is give the man his propers.

213 SpaceJesus  Aug 15, 2014 7:04:38pm

this is the best headline ive read in a long time

214 Stanley Sea  Aug 15, 2014 7:05:00pm

re: #200 RealityBasedSteve

I have a problem in the house with drosophila melanogaster. Apparently a piece of fruit has fallen somewhere behind my desk, because I now have a swarm of fruit flies. Could be worse, they don’t bite, they aren’t creepy, I remember having milk bottles full of them in high school biology, and breeding them to get my mutant breed of red-eyed dwarf winged fruitflies.

RBS

ewe. take care of it stat.

215 Amory Blaine  Aug 15, 2014 7:05:33pm

Who won the pool?

///

216 kirkspencer  Aug 15, 2014 7:06:20pm

re: #70 b.d.

Ft. Worth here.

Houston (almost Spring) here. Texan neither by birth or preference, but by the call of the only employment I could get.

217 Skip Intro  Aug 15, 2014 7:06:35pm

re: #207 freetoken

You are asking someone who believes that - (1) Lucifer is real and (2) really behind Obama - to be serious.

Good luck.

How could DimJim have left out the commies? There’s a direct link from Lucifer to Alinsky (about whom I still have no idea what he did to beat out a couple of hundred thousand other really bad people), but not Stalin or Mao?

218 Charles Johnson  Aug 15, 2014 7:06:36pm
219 De Kolta Chair  Aug 15, 2014 7:06:43pm

re: #215 Amory Blaine

Who won the pool?

///

Blake Farenthold?

220 Gus  Aug 15, 2014 7:12:04pm
221 Varek Raith  Aug 15, 2014 7:12:49pm

re: #220 Gus

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Lol.

222 klys  Aug 15, 2014 7:13:02pm

re: #132 klys

Regarding the tweet above about possible motive, with the investigation into funding decisions for a separate agency, who would have taken control of that if she had resigned? Anyone familiar with it and able to say?

I ended up looking this up and Perry would have been able to name her replacement, had she resigned. Which likely would have been a Republican willing to look the other way on Perry’s potential involvement in the funding decisions for the Cancer Research and Prevention stuff.

223 Lidane  Aug 15, 2014 7:13:24pm

re: #220 Gus

WE’RE ALL HEADED TO TEH GULAGS! OBUMMER IZ GOING TO ROUND US UP IN CATTLE CARS LIKE DA JOOZ! ELEVENTY!

224 jaunte  Aug 15, 2014 7:15:12pm

re: #220 Gus

Ivan Denisovitch: “I can live with D’Souza, O’Keefe, Rick Perry, and Scott Walker, but please keep Charles C out.”

225 b.d.  Aug 15, 2014 7:16:02pm

re: #220 Gus

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The award winning journalist is on to us!

226 Charles Johnson  Aug 15, 2014 7:17:01pm
227 Eventual Carrion  Aug 15, 2014 7:18:11pm

re: #220 Gus

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Yes, I hear it all the time how Dems want to kill all Repubs using their second amendment remedy’s. Next time we won’t come unarmed. We have them in our sights.

228 Gus  Aug 15, 2014 7:19:37pm
229 freetoken  Aug 15, 2014 7:19:42pm

re: #223 Lidane

What I don’t like about that embedded someecard, and not liked since I first saw it, is that it is not true.

Many people did not survive GWB’s war in Iraq. Mostly Iraqis, but Americans died too.

230 blueraven  Aug 15, 2014 7:19:53pm

re: #68 Dave In Austin

So how many Texans do we have on this board anyway???

Just outside Austin here. North shore of Lake Travis. Been in Austin and surrounding area since 1978.

231 GunstarGreen  Aug 15, 2014 7:20:06pm

re: #220 Gus

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Hey, all Republicans have to do is stop being criminal scum, and they won’t keep getting indicted.

232 Lidane  Aug 15, 2014 7:20:24pm
233 Kragar  Aug 15, 2014 7:21:12pm
234 RealityBasedSteve  Aug 15, 2014 7:22:24pm

re: #220 Gus

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I want the position of Crafts and Recreation Czar in the Gulag. I’ll have them making broochs with sea-shells and little macaroni letters…. trivets from popsicle sticks, tiles and plaster, and of course, the ever popular boondoggling.

For the ones that earn it… maybe some metal rubbing art and possibly even soap carving.

I’ll make them suffer…

RBS

235 De Kolta Chair  Aug 15, 2014 7:22:38pm

Charles C. Johnson, award-winning journalist: who, what, where, when and, most importantly, why?

236 Gus  Aug 15, 2014 7:23:52pm

Yeah, it’s a conspiracy of liberals. Which is why Ray Nagin and Rod Blagojevich are in prison right now. Yeah, “they” just target conservatives.

237 RealityBasedSteve  Aug 15, 2014 7:24:21pm

re: #235 De Kolta Chair

Charles C. Johnson who?

The one who isn’t Icarus.

238 freetoken  Aug 15, 2014 7:25:57pm

re: #236 Gus

Yeah, it’s a conspiracy of liberals. Which is why Ray Nagin and Rod Blagojevich are in prison right now. Yeah, “they” just target conservatives.

Those two were merely sacrificial lambs goats offered up to AlinskyObama’s god, Lucifer.

239 jamesfirecat  Aug 15, 2014 7:25:57pm

re: #220 Gus

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If I might Jim carry in liar lair,,,

STOP BREAKING THE LAW LOSER!

240 Gus  Aug 15, 2014 7:26:42pm
241 b.d.  Aug 15, 2014 7:27:38pm

Do the gulags come before or after the FEMA camps?

242 Gus  Aug 15, 2014 7:27:46pm
243 Charles Johnson  Aug 15, 2014 7:27:56pm
244 Charles Johnson  Aug 15, 2014 7:28:10pm
245 jaunte  Aug 15, 2014 7:28:11pm

re: #241 b.d.

Do the gulags come before or after the FEMA camps?

I think it’s a conservative Twitter thing.

246 freetoken  Aug 15, 2014 7:28:34pm

re: #241 b.d.

Do the gulags come before or after the FEMA camps?

Aren’t the gulags the inner ring of punishment within the FEMA camps?

247 b.d.  Aug 15, 2014 7:31:09pm

re: #246 freetoken

Aren’t the gulags the inner ring of punishment within the FEMA camps?

Like the cooler in Stalag 13?

248 WhatEVs  Aug 15, 2014 7:33:16pm

re: #207 freetoken

You are asking someone who believes that - (1) Lucifer is real and (2) really behind Obama - to be serious.

Good luck.

They believe Obama is the anti Christ. That right there is scary stuff a large number if republicans believe that.

249 allegro  Aug 15, 2014 7:33:22pm

I thought a gulag was something that happened after one ate rotten fish.

250 Varek Raith  Aug 15, 2014 7:33:39pm

re: #246 freetoken

Aren’t the gulags the inner ring of punishment within the FEMA camps?

Dude, shut up.
;)

251 Kragar  Aug 15, 2014 7:33:59pm

They caught that POS MMA fighter

252 Eventual Carrion  Aug 15, 2014 7:34:25pm

re: #245 jaunte

I think it’s a conservative Twitter thing.

FEMA camps are for re-education, gulags are for the incorrigible.

253 De Kolta Chair  Aug 15, 2014 7:34:35pm

re: #247 b.d.

Like the cooler in Stalag 13?

Mmmm, William Holden spent a lot of his time in Africa working on environmental causes. Holy moly, it all makes sense now — William Holden was Hitler!

Oh wait, that was Stalag 17. Never mind. Schultz!!!!!

254 Charles Johnson  Aug 15, 2014 7:36:35pm
255 psddluva4evah  Aug 15, 2014 7:38:12pm

re: #209 Lidane

Something to smile at after the frustration of this damn day.

Now let’s hope lil Mo’ne stays on the straight and narrow path, cause if she strays just a little, well…ya know…

Ugh, I’ve become very pessimistic as of late.

256 Eventual Carrion  Aug 15, 2014 7:38:56pm

re: #254 Charles Johnson

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Why yes, I am a minion of Satan. But my duties are mostly ceremonial.

257 RealityBasedSteve  Aug 15, 2014 7:42:59pm

re: #256 Eventual Carrion

Why yes, I am a minion of Satan. But my duties are mostly ceremonial.

do you get Key-Man pricing at the gift shop on logo stuff?

RBS

258 Jack Burton  Aug 15, 2014 7:44:08pm

re: #232 Lidane

Right Wing Watch @RightWingWatch
Follow
Far-right pastor: Obama will soon issue an executive order to declare himself “Dictator for Life” bit.ly

Just like Bush did… oh yeah

Just like Clinton did… ohhh

Seriously… ノット ジス シット アゲン

259 Kragar  Aug 15, 2014 7:44:27pm

re: #254 Charles Johnson

260 De Kolta Chair  Aug 15, 2014 7:44:44pm

re: #256 Eventual Carrion

Why yes, I am a minion of Satan. But my duties are mostly ceremonial.

Does the job come with a Welsh corgi or do you have to summon one yourself?

261 Varek Raith  Aug 15, 2014 7:45:20pm

re: #256 Eventual Carrion

Why yes, I am a minion of Satan. But my duties are mostly ceremonial.

It’s really only a fancy title these days.

262 goddamnedfrank  Aug 15, 2014 7:45:36pm

All hail Peppermint Butler!

263 Jack Burton  Aug 15, 2014 7:45:56pm

re: #254 Charles Johnson

Wait… in league with Satan…

You played hockey with Miroslav Satan???

I never knew that.

/

264 Eventual Carrion  Aug 15, 2014 7:46:23pm

re: #257 RealityBasedSteve

do you get Key-Man pricing at the gift shop on logo stuff?

RBS

I have my eye on the horn helmet that shoots beer out of one horn and whiskey out of the other. It is killer at the puppy B-B-Q’s.

265 Kragar  Aug 15, 2014 7:47:35pm

Youtube Video

266 Charles Johnson  Aug 15, 2014 7:47:47pm

Not sure how to react when John Cole acts friendly toward me.

267 Varek Raith  Aug 15, 2014 7:47:53pm

re: #262 goddamnedfrank

All hail Peppermint Butler!

[Embedded image]

Youtube Video

268 Eventual Carrion  Aug 15, 2014 7:47:56pm

re: #260 De Kolta Chair

Does the job come with a corgi?

No, cookies.

269 Eventual Carrion  Aug 15, 2014 7:48:27pm

re: #261 Varek Raith

It’s really only a fancy title these days.

Looks good on a resume tho’.

270 Kragar  Aug 15, 2014 7:50:00pm

re: #267 Varek Raith

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Marceline FTW

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271 b.d.  Aug 15, 2014 7:50:08pm

re: #266 Charles Johnson

Not sure how to react when John Cole acts friendly toward me.

He’s a strange bird, roll with it.

272 De Kolta Chair  Aug 15, 2014 7:51:19pm

re: #268 Eventual Carrion

No, cookies.

Good idea. Less filling that way. I reckon the Dark Lord likes his minions to be in tip top shape. Pip pip, damn all souls to hell and all that. Jolly good.

273 piratedan  Aug 15, 2014 7:55:01pm

re: #266 Charles Johnson

he’s attempting sobriety (and I applaud his efforts in doing so) and tbh, you guys are on the same side on a wide variety of issues.

274 Eventual Carrion  Aug 15, 2014 7:55:15pm

re: #272 De Kolta Chair

Good idea. Less filling that way. I reckon the Dark Lord likes his minions to be in tip top shape. Pip pip, damn all souls to hell and all that. Jolly good.

No more calling him Dark Lord, he now wants to be known as Betty.

// Sorry Kung Pow

275 psddluva4evah  Aug 15, 2014 7:56:38pm
276 psddluva4evah  Aug 15, 2014 7:58:24pm
277 De Kolta Chair  Aug 15, 2014 7:59:00pm

re: #274 Eventual Carrion

No more calling him Dark Lord, he now wants to be known as Betty.

// Sorry Kung Pow

I’m not a registered theologian so I’m speaking out my arse, but I’ll bet real money that God and the Devil Betty’s boss are both big fans of the Goon Show.

278 WhatEVs  Aug 15, 2014 7:59:45pm

re: #254 Charles Johnson

Let’s see if this works…

google.ca

279 RealityBasedSteve  Aug 15, 2014 8:01:04pm

re: #274 Eventual Carrion

No more calling him Dark Lord, he now wants to be known as Betty.

// Sorry Kung Pow

Betty Page… Devil

Where do I sign up?

280 WhatEVs  Aug 15, 2014 8:01:52pm

re: #275 psddluva4evah

I’m shocked. Shocked I say!

Ok, not even remotely.

281 Belafon  Aug 15, 2014 8:02:02pm

re: #266 Charles Johnson

You and John are actually both very passionate and trying for the same goal. Yeah, you don’t agree on the methods for everything, but you really do want the same thing. You two should view the skirmishes as the road bumps they are rather than thinking they are the main issue.

282 psddluva4evah  Aug 15, 2014 8:02:16pm
283 Kragar  Aug 15, 2014 8:02:54pm

Youtube Video

284 Eventual Carrion  Aug 15, 2014 8:04:39pm

re: #279 RealityBasedSteve

Betty Page… Devil

Where do I sign up?

Told you. The parties are hot (well, they are right next to the lava pits). And you get LaVey drunk and smoked up, what a hoot.

285 sagehen  Aug 15, 2014 8:06:20pm

OT: I bought the couch of my dreams today…

I’ve been looking for more than a month, I wanted an odd size and I haven’t liked any of what I’ve seen at various stores. But on my way to dinner, had a few minutes to spare and noticed a charming window display at Pottery Barn, stopped in and… there it was. The perfect color, the perfect fabric, the perfect firmness, the perfect shaped arms… an enormous sectional that 2/3 is the perfect size for the spot I want it in, the other 1/3 is the perfect housewarming gift for my cousin’s kid who just got his first apartment. And miracle of miracles, it was a floor sample. Marked down by 75% from original retail price (which price was already within the range I was willing to pay). When I finish my happy dance, I can start looking for the perfect rug to go with it.

286 De Kolta Chair  Aug 15, 2014 8:06:42pm

re: #283 Kragar

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I take back every complaint I’ve ever uttered about the internet.

287 goddamnedfrank  Aug 15, 2014 8:07:28pm

Adventure Time went from something distinctly good to one of the best television series ever when they decided to evolve Ice King from a joke of a villain into Ooo’s tragic hero.

Youtube Video

288 De Kolta Chair  Aug 15, 2014 8:10:22pm

re: #284 Eventual Carrion

Told you. The parties are hot (well, they are right next to the lava pits). And you get LaVey drunk and smoked up, what a hoot.

So what’s Sammy Davis, Jr. really like?

289 Belafon  Aug 15, 2014 8:11:44pm

re: #287 goddamnedfrank

The Ice King’s evolution has been great (the story with him and Marceline brings tears), there’s enough intrigue around Princess Bubblegum to keep me watching, and Peppermint Butler is creepy awesome.

290 Hyped Up On Ganja  Aug 15, 2014 8:39:31pm

re: #68 Dave In Austin

Oh Here, Here!

291 dell*nix  Aug 15, 2014 9:02:07pm

re: #230 blueraven

Houston, Westheimer and HW6.

292 dell*nix  Aug 15, 2014 9:31:56pm

re: #279 RealityBasedSteve

What a school teacher!

293 De Kolta Chair  Aug 15, 2014 9:39:36pm

re: #292 dell*nix

What a school teacher!

The three R’s — readin’, rightin’ and rockin’!

294 DobermanBoston  Aug 16, 2014 9:46:20am

re: #58 Kragar

I still plan to run a chain of libertarian themed diners called “Bilderburgers”

“We cheerfully accept gold bullion.”


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