1 RealityBasedSteve  Oct 3, 2014 7:20:30pm

Damn…. now i’ve got to get a length of rope out and learn it.

RBS

2 Charles Johnson  Oct 3, 2014 7:30:13pm

I seem to have touched a nerve with this tweet.

3 wrenchwench  Oct 3, 2014 7:31:14pm

Later, lizards.

4 klys  Oct 3, 2014 7:36:19pm

Happy weekend Lizards. I’ll be back on Sunday. :)

5 Decatur Deb  Oct 3, 2014 7:39:44pm

Manning my candidate’s table at another AL town festival tomorrow. No free beer or BBQ at this one, but there will be Ylvises Elvises. At least this town is completely inside her district.

‘Nite, all.

6 De Kolta Chair  Oct 3, 2014 7:47:19pm

Miss ya, Doug Sahm, you brilliant wacko

Youtube Video

7 dog philosopher  Oct 3, 2014 7:48:15pm

ylvis prissli?

8 HappyWarrior  Oct 3, 2014 7:58:37pm

re: #2 Charles Johnson

I seem to have touched a nerve with this tweet.

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Oh no of course not.

9 jaunte  Oct 3, 2014 8:02:16pm

re: #2 Charles Johnson

I wonder if all the conservatives yelling that Ebola might become airborne realize it means they now believe in evolution?

I haven’t seen some of those arguments since the great LGF Creationist Exodus.

10 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Oct 3, 2014 8:02:40pm

Evening Lizards.

For my fellow gamers this looks like it could be amazing

oh and the guy set a new Guinness world record for fundraising for a game to the tune of $55 million.

11 HappyWarrior  Oct 3, 2014 8:03:07pm

Chef was a good movie but not one you wanna watch after dinner.

12 De Kolta Chair  Oct 3, 2014 8:04:30pm

re: #2 Charles Johnson

[Insert Charles Darwin What Me Worry? graphic here]

13 RealityBasedSteve  Oct 3, 2014 8:06:16pm

Well, I’m outta here. Hopefully I’m going on a recovery dive tomorrow, we’re hoping to find all the fins / masks /weights / other stuff people have dropped in 120 feet of water where you jump in at the quarry. Going to be COLD down there, and not overly warm tomorrow anyhow here in TN.

Should be a challenging dive for me, and a good learning experience.

Sleep well, and don’t take any ebola nickles.

RBS

14 De Kolta Chair  Oct 3, 2014 8:06:36pm

re: #11 HappyWarrior

Chef was a good movie but not one you wanna watch after dinner.

Never heard of it, but have you ever seen Lenny Henry’s BBC comedy, “Chef!” Very funny.

15 HappyWarrior  Oct 3, 2014 8:08:07pm

re: #14 De Kolta Chair

Never heard of it, but have you ever seen Lenny Henry’s BBC comedy, “Chef!” Very funny.

I have not. Will check it out even though sometimes British humor is a little dry for me.

16 Higgs Boson's Mate  Oct 3, 2014 8:16:27pm

Ever see neon waves? The sea here in south OC is alive with with phosphorescence. Beautiful, but no surfing for me tomorrow.

17 Archangelus  Oct 3, 2014 8:17:32pm

re: #10 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

Evening Lizards.

For my fellow gamers this looks like it could be amazing

Quite the understatement at this point.
I backed the project pretty much within less than an hour of its launch and the end product looks like it’s going to be so much grander than what was initially promised it has backers salivating.

It also helps that they’ve been churning out some kickass promotional videos such as this one (depicting an ingame world ‘commercial’ using the actual game engine):
Youtube Video

18 De Kolta Chair  Oct 3, 2014 8:18:38pm

re: #15 HappyWarrior

I have not. Will check it out even though sometimes British humor is a little dry for me.

Odd that there are scads of Brit coms on PBS channels, but nary an Irish comedy (no offense meant to Brits, ya wankers ya). Our local NYC PBS channel started showing Chris O’Dowd’s show “Moone Boy” tonight, but wouldn’t ya know I missed it because it’s so much fun being here.

19 Single-handed sailor  Oct 3, 2014 8:19:43pm

re: #16 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Ever see neon waves? The sea here in south OC is alive with with phosphorescence. Beautiful, but no surfing for me tomorrow.

I’ve seen it while sailing in the BVI, every splash of water glows.

20 freetoken  Oct 3, 2014 8:23:25pm

Speaking of public broadcasting, I’m wondering why NPR is promoting the IDiots.

21 Kragar  Oct 3, 2014 8:23:45pm

Wow, that was one of the knottiest songs I’ve ever heard

22 Stanley Sea  Oct 3, 2014 8:25:42pm

re: #16 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Ever see neon waves? The sea here in south OC is alive with with phosphorescence. Beautiful, but no surfing for me tomorrow.

I’ve seen it before in Encinitas. Phosphorescence. It was amazing.

23 Stanley Sea  Oct 3, 2014 8:26:43pm

re: #22 Stanley Sea

I’ve seen it before in Encinitas. Phosphorescence. It was amazing.

You stomped on the sand and it lit up too.

Incredible.

I’m so far from the beach now. So sad.

24 De Kolta Chair  Oct 3, 2014 8:28:18pm

re: #20 freetoken

Speaking of public broadcasting, I’m wondering why NPR is promoting the IDiots.

Haven’t they been doing that for ages now?

25 freetoken  Oct 3, 2014 8:29:52pm

re: #24 De Kolta Chair

Haven’t they been doing that for ages now?

NPR sorts of muddles through with a bit of everything, I think. Anyway, writers ought to do background research, but too often they don’t.

26 Kragar  Oct 3, 2014 8:30:51pm

My eldest just learned when she gets a surprise gift for doing well in her classes so far this year, “Is that it?” is not an acceptable response

27 Stanley Sea  Oct 3, 2014 8:32:04pm

re: #25 freetoken

NPR sorts of muddles through with a bit of everything, I think. Anyway, writers ought to do background research, but too often they don’t.

Have you followed the inewssource report on the vent farms?

excellent.

28 De Kolta Chair  Oct 3, 2014 8:32:11pm

re: #25 freetoken

NPR sorts of muddles through with a bit of everything, I think. Anyway, writers ought to do background research, but too often they don’t.

I will grant that they’re miles ahead of other US radio news outlets, but their Rolodex sorely needs an update, like since 1983. The same old bores doing the same old chores.

29 Editor in Chief  Oct 3, 2014 8:34:39pm

My wife just made her best pumpkin pie.

I had a slice with ice cream.

Tomorrow I get whipped cream.

30 wheat-dogghazi  Oct 3, 2014 8:34:45pm

For you coders:

Image: ftcl141003.gif

31 De Kolta Chair  Oct 3, 2014 8:36:56pm

re: #3 wrenchwench

That reminds me of the work of my old chum, the wonderful artist Matthew Palladino, whom if I may brag, and I will because he’s one cool customer, I’ve known since he was knee high to a zygote.

Here’s his site, please do check it out: matthewpalladino.com

32 Targetpractice  Oct 3, 2014 8:45:55pm

Hadn’t really kept up with news about Civilization: Beyond Earth until today, then sat down to watch the preview trailer…and now I have the burning desire to go reserve a copy.

33 Higgs Boson's Mate  Oct 3, 2014 8:46:32pm

Best phosphorescence I ever saw were the times I spent staring at the wake of the U.S.S. Lexington, while kicking it on the round down (The aft-most part of the flight deck) underway in the Gulf of Mexico. Fourteen hour days and a joint plus Youth! may have contributed to the poignancy of the moment.

34 Feline Fearless Leader  Oct 3, 2014 8:47:53pm

My niece got her care package box at college today. It contained:
- Monster chocolate bar (Trader Joes)
- Box of s’mores (Trader Joes)
- Trail Mix (Trader Joes)
- Ninja Dice (small game)
- Chinese Zodiac origami set - she described it as “cute”
- Cast plastic set of three river otters - described as “adorable”
- bottle of Werewolf brand “everything” pepper sauce

35 Charles Johnson  Oct 3, 2014 8:56:42pm
36 Charles Johnson  Oct 3, 2014 8:58:09pm
37 wheat-dogghazi  Oct 3, 2014 8:58:10pm

re: #35 Charles Johnson

Publishing the names of minors is possibly illegal, as well as as definitely unethical.

38 Higgs Boson's Mate  Oct 3, 2014 8:58:28pm

re: #35 Charles Johnson

What’s this “We publish” shit? Does CCJ have a tapeworm?

39 Targetpractice  Oct 3, 2014 9:00:08pm

re: #38 Higgs Boson’s Mate

What’s this “We publish” shit? Does CCJ have a tapeworm?

Nah, mouse in his pocket.//

The man seems dead-set on starting a panic, if not a riot. No fucking clue why, but I can only assume it’s because he gets off on being a troll.

40 sagehen  Oct 3, 2014 9:00:27pm

re: #18 De Kolta Chair

Odd that there are scads of Brit coms on PBS channels, but nary an Irish comedy (no offense meant to Brits, ya wankers ya). Our local NYC PBS channel started showing Chris O’Dowd’s show “Moone Boy” tonight, but wouldn’t ya know I missed it because it’s so much fun being here.

Lucky for you, it’s online
hulu.com

41 Rightwingconspirator  Oct 3, 2014 9:01:09pm

So got a few friends around, it’s warm, humid and we just ate pretty well. Seems to me the very next thing would be some Little Feat. Maybe Spanish Moon. Just to set that Friday night groove.

Video

You guys feeling it?

42 De Kolta Chair  Oct 3, 2014 9:03:00pm

re: #34 Feline Fearless Leader

A buddy of mine is in her junior year at Bennington College, and we make a point of sending her a cache of hot sauces every few months. Golly gee, we missed a shipment one time last year and caught holy hell from her. Luckily, we have sources in Arizona and New Mexico and were able to appease her highness with the good stuff. She had us scared for a whole week. Evidently, the grrrl needs her fix, but don’t we all?

43 wheat-dogghazi  Oct 3, 2014 9:04:02pm

I just watched a CNN International BackStory report from the chief medical correspondent. Three important points she made:

* People who have recovered from ebola bounce back quickly to complete health.
* A nursing student cared for four members of her family who had contracted ebola, using homemade hazmat equipment made from plastic bags, rubber boots (gumboots, as they call them in Africa), and rubber gloves.
* Building isolation wards is an excellent response, but someone has to be in charge of those wards to deal with incoming patients efficiently.

44 teleskiguy  Oct 3, 2014 9:04:47pm

re: #35 Charles Johnson

45 Higgs Boson's Mate  Oct 3, 2014 9:05:29pm

re: #39 Targetpractice

Bullshit is CCJ’s bread and butter.

46 Kragar  Oct 3, 2014 9:05:32pm
47 Feline Fearless Leader  Oct 3, 2014 9:05:54pm

re: #42 De Kolta Chair

A buddy of mine is in her junior year at Bennington College, and we make a point of sending her a cache of hot sauces every few months. Golly gee, we missed a shipment one time last year and caught holy hell from her. Luckily, we have sources in Arizona and New Mexico and were able to appease her withe some good stuff. She had us scared for a whole week. Evidently, the girrrl needs her fix, but don’t we all?

Niece is not massively into spicy yet. So just a bottle of something now and then. Mainly assembling “neat” things I come across which are small and I think will amuse her. And then fill in the box with Trader Joe’s goodies.

48 Higgs Boson's Mate  Oct 3, 2014 9:09:14pm

re: #46 Kragar

it won’t be long before CCJ predicts incipient panic and then yells “Fire!” in a crowded movie theater.

49 Targetpractice  Oct 3, 2014 9:10:05pm

re: #43 wheat-dogghazi

I just watched a CNN International BackStory report from the chief medical correspondent. Three important points she made:

* People who have recovered from ebola bounce back quickly to complete health.
* A nursing student cared for four members of her family who had contracted ebola, using homemade hazmat equipment made from plastic bags, rubber boots (gumboots, as they call them in Africa), and rubber gloves.
* Building isolation wards is an excellent response, but someone has to be in charge of those wards to deal with incoming patients efficiently.

One thing I’ve heard recently is that, unlike past Ebola outbreaks where the fatality rate ran as high as 90%, the current epidemic has been roughly 50%, mostly due to the better equipped hospitals in Africa being able to address early symptoms and combat dehydration in infected patients. So the idea of Ebola as a death sentence is wildly overstated.

50 HappyWarrior  Oct 3, 2014 9:10:12pm

re: #18 De Kolta Chair

Odd that there are scads of Brit coms on PBS channels, but nary an Irish comedy (no offense meant to Brits, ya wankers ya). Our local NYC PBS channel started showing Chris O’Dowd’s show “Moone Boy” tonight, but wouldn’t ya know I missed it because it’s so much fun being here.

I do like Irish comedy. Really the comedies of the McDonagh brothers. In Bruges is my favorite comedy in some years.

51 HappyWarrior  Oct 3, 2014 9:11:17pm

Another day, Another instance of CCJohnson being a pathetic dick.

52 teleskiguy  Oct 3, 2014 9:11:45pm

Motherfucking crazy goddamned right wing tweet word salad of the decade.

53 wheat-dogghazi  Oct 3, 2014 9:12:44pm

re: #49 Targetpractice

One thing I’ve heard recently is that, unlike past Ebola outbreaks where the fatality rate ran as high as 90%, the current epidemic has been roughly 50%, mostly due to the better equipped hospitals in Africa being able to address early symptoms and combat dehydration in infected patients. So the idea of Ebola as a death sentence is wildly overstated.

Yes, so the fear mongering in the USA is just ridiculous. One guy in Dallas is not writing a death sentence for thousands of people.

54 De Kolta Chair  Oct 3, 2014 9:12:57pm

re: #46 Kragar

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Dostoyevsky himself couldn’t have have dreamt up the shithead that is Charles C. Go Fuck Yourself Johnson.

55 HappyWarrior  Oct 3, 2014 9:13:01pm

re: #52 teleskiguy

Motherfucking crazy goddamned right wing tweet word salad of the decade.

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Yes you care about America so much Chuckles.

56 Targetpractice  Oct 3, 2014 9:13:05pm

re: #52 teleskiguy

Motherfucking crazy goddamned right wing tweet word salad of the decade.

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So it’s better we cut off our nose to spite our face, to increase the chance that the US is ill-equipped to deal with a major health crisis just to please the NRA.

57 wheat-dogghazi  Oct 3, 2014 9:15:00pm

re: #52 teleskiguy

Guns kill people. It’s a verifiable statistic. A surgeon general is supposed to advise on the health of the nation. So the SG nominee was doing his job. Only RWNJs find that a problem.

58 Targetpractice  Oct 3, 2014 9:16:01pm

re: #53 wheat-dogghazi

Yes, so the fear mongering in the USA is just ridiculous. One guy in Dallas is not writing a death sentence for thousands of people.

While Ebola is a deadlier kettle of fish overall, this whole matter is smacking of SARS/Swine flu/H1N1 and other assorted health scares of the past. At least with those there was a worry that an infected person might infect others just by being in the same room. With Ebola, you have to take conscious action and come in unprotected contact with the sufferer’s body fluids to be in danger.

59 HappyWarrior  Oct 3, 2014 9:17:43pm

re: #57 wheat-dogghazi

Guns kill people. It’s a verifiable statistic. A surgeon general is supposed to advise on the health of the nation. So the SG nominee was doing his job. Only RWNJs find that a problem.

And gun violence quite frankly is a big problem in this country but I can see why anyone who dares to mention that infuriates an ammosexual like Chuckles.

60 sagehen  Oct 3, 2014 9:18:11pm

re: #56 Targetpractice

So it’s better we cut off our nose to spite our face, to increase the chance that the US is ill-equipped to deal with a major health crisis just to please the NRA.

He didn’t want to ban guns. He wanted to compile statistics. That’s all. Just COUNT how many how many gun deaths are where, how many are preventable accidents, that sort of thing.

61 Targetpractice  Oct 3, 2014 9:18:45pm

re: #57 wheat-dogghazi

Guns kill people. It’s a verifiable statistic. A surgeon general is supposed to advise on the health of the nation. So the SG nominee was doing his job. Only RWNJs find that a problem.

Guns have killed more people in the US in the last 3 months than Ebola has.

62 Kragar  Oct 3, 2014 9:19:10pm

Why the NRA Is Blocking Obama’s Surgeon General Nominee

“Murthy has medical and business degrees from Yale, works as an attending physician and instructor at Brigham and Women’s Hospital at Harvard Medical School and has founded several health businesses and nonprofits. He has also expressed support for limited gun safety measures like a ban on assault weapons, mandatory safety training and limits on ammunition”

HE WANTS TO BAN ALL THE GUNS!

63 jaunte  Oct 3, 2014 9:19:57pm

re: #60 sagehen

But any information collected on guns inevitably leads to banning and seizing guns, and Nazis, according to noted gun experts.

64 HappyWarrior  Oct 3, 2014 9:20:06pm

re: #62 Kragar

Why the NRA Is Blocking Obama’s Surgeon General Nominee

“Murthy has medical and business degrees from Yale, works as an attending physician and instructor at Brigham and Women’s Hospital at Harvard Medical School and has founded several health businesses and nonprofits. He has also expressed support for limited gun safety measures like a ban on assault weapons, mandatory safety training and limits on ammunition”

HE WANTS TO BAN ALL THE GUNS!

How tyrannical. Really fuck the NRA. Fuck them for continuing to demonize anyone who doesn’t think that guns are the greatest invention since language.

65 Rightwingconspirator  Oct 3, 2014 9:20:31pm

re: #45 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Bullshit is CCJ’s bread and butter.

And we have the knife.

66 jaunte  Oct 3, 2014 9:21:22pm

“Noted” gun experts, passing notes on email, Twitter and Facebook.

67 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Oct 3, 2014 9:23:15pm

re: #16 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Squid are showing up? *grabs fishing pole*

68 Higgs Boson's Mate  Oct 3, 2014 9:23:29pm

re: #58 Targetpractice

While Ebola is a deadlier kettle of fish overall, this whole matter is smacking of SARS/Swine flu/H1N1 and other assorted health scares of the past. At least with those there was a worry that an infected person might infect others just by being in the same room. With Ebola, you have to take conscious action and come in unprotected contact with the sufferer’s body fluids to be in danger.

House Republicans will vote to take action when Ebola becomes transmissible to sheep.

69 HappyWarrior  Oct 3, 2014 9:24:12pm

re: #68 Higgs Boson’s Mate

House Republicans will vote to take action when Ebola becomes transmissible to sheep.

They would probably vote to fund a cure for Ebola if it included a repeal of Obamacare.

70 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Oct 3, 2014 9:27:29pm

re: #17 Archangelus

I liked wing commander back in the day. If they keep this playable with a mouse and keyboard and no need for a joystick i will definitely check it out.

71 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Oct 3, 2014 9:28:30pm

Right now i am thoroughly enjoying Middle Earth: Shadows of Mordor it’s amazeballs

72 De Kolta Chair  Oct 3, 2014 9:33:09pm

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73 Higgs Boson's Mate  Oct 3, 2014 9:35:56pm

re: #70 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

Still modding and playing modded versions of The Elder Scrolls: Morrowind and Fallout 3. I will buy no game that costs more than $19.95 or that requires Steam.

74 Higgs Boson's Mate  Oct 3, 2014 9:37:06pm

re: #72 De Kolta Chair

How did he miss San Diego?

75 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Oct 3, 2014 9:38:46pm

re: #73 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Still modding and playing modded versions of The Elder Scrolls: Morrowind and Fallout 3. I will buy no game that costs more than $19.95 or that requires Steam.

That’s seriously old school. I personally like steam since i have over 80 games in my library on it lol. I don’t buy a lot of games because so many are disappointments, Shadow Of Mordor has been well worth it so far.

76 Targetpractice  Oct 3, 2014 9:39:09pm

re: #73 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Still modding and playing modded versions of The Elder Scrolls: Morrowind and Fallout 3. I will buy no game that costs more than $19.95 or that requires Steam.

Meanwhile, I sit over here and keep wondering when Bethesda’s gonna drop the act and announce they’re working on Fallout 4.

77 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Oct 3, 2014 9:45:06pm

re: #76 Targetpractice

Meanwhile, I sit over here and keep wondering when Bethesda’s gonna drop the act and announce they’re working on Fallout 4.

I honestly would love to see a Fallout MMO

78 Higgs Boson's Mate  Oct 3, 2014 9:46:30pm

re: #75 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

That’s seriously old school. I personally like steam since i have over 80 games in my library on it lol. I don’t buy a lot of games because so many are disappointments, Shadow Of Mordor has been well worth it so far.

Old school to be true. On the other hand, the 3D modelling, scripting, etc. necessary to create a mod and have it work in the game is an engrossing pastime of its own. Why buy a new game when I can make an old one new again?

79 Targetpractice  Oct 3, 2014 9:46:59pm

re: #77 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

I honestly would love to see a Fallout MMO

Not sure that’s going to happen anytime soon. More to the point, considering had badly they fucked the Elder Scrolls MMO, I’d rather they never try to make a Fallout MMO. It’s kinda hard to have a Lone Wanderer when there’s several thousand in the queue behind you, waiting to turn in the same quest.

80 Kragar  Oct 3, 2014 9:47:07pm

re: #77 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

I honestly would love to see a Fallout MMO

There was a Fallout Online in development, but its currently cancelled.

81 Kragar  Oct 3, 2014 9:48:17pm

re: #79 Targetpractice

Not sure that’s going to happen anytime soon. More to the point, considering had badly they fucked the Elder Scrolls MMO, I’d rather they never try to make a Fallout MMO. It’s kinda hard to have a Lone Wanderer when there’s several thousand in the queue behind you, waiting to turn in the same quest.

I stopped playing the ES MMO in beta, it was so bad.

82 Targetpractice  Oct 3, 2014 9:48:54pm

re: #80 Kragar

There was a Fallout Online in development, but its currently cancelled.

Depending on who you ask, Interplay was anywhere from late development stages to early Alpha on a Fallout MMO when Bethesda took them to court for failure to meet the requirements of the contract that sold the rest of the franchise over to them.

83 Higgs Boson's Mate  Oct 3, 2014 9:50:44pm

re: #79 Targetpractice

“Three Dog here! You won’t believe the latest news: 43,295 escapees from Vault 101 are tearing up the Wasteland looking for their collective father.”

84 Targetpractice  Oct 3, 2014 9:52:29pm

Fallout is a franchise that’s been built on the idea that you, the player, are the person whose actions will shape the future of the Wasteland. Turning it into an MMO where you’re J. Random Schlub who is killing ten radroaches for an NPC would totally kill that experience.

85 De Kolta Chair  Oct 3, 2014 9:53:55pm

Tim Schafer and Double Fine will soon release the remastered version of Grim Fandango. Great googamooga!

86 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Oct 3, 2014 9:54:28pm

re: #78 Higgs Boson’s Mate

Old school to be true. On the other hand, the 3D modelling, scripting, etc. necessary to create a mod and have it work in the game is an engrossing pastime of its own. Why buy a new game when I can make an old one new again?

I used to help run a perpetual world in Neverwinter Nights. I know how it goes timewise to do scripting. It is definitely a labor of love.

87 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Oct 3, 2014 9:55:32pm

re: #81 Kragar

I stopped playing the ES MMO in beta, it was so bad.

I played the MMO briefly. I didn’t think it was that bad.

88 Targetpractice  Oct 3, 2014 9:55:59pm

re: #85 De Kolta Chair

Tim Schafer and Double Fine are going to release the remastered version of Grim Fandango. Great googamooga!

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Now that is old school gaming. From that golden time when adventure gaming was big.

89 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Oct 3, 2014 9:57:31pm

A couple of oldies but goodies that are currently on steam are the original Baldur’s Gate enhanced to run at higher resolutions and to include the ability to play online (not just lan) and a redo of the old Shadowrun game that was on genesis/snes.

90 De Kolta Chair  Oct 3, 2014 10:01:47pm

re: #88 Targetpractice

Now that is old school gaming. From that golden time when adventure gaming was big.

A few years ago, Revolution released updated versions of the first two Broken Sword games. This old point & clicker was in seventh heaven, as opposed to Sierra ‘s 7th guest (pun intended).

Favorite computer game of all time: Space Quest 2: Vohaul’s Revenge.

Yup, that’s as high tech as the game gets, folks.

91 Targetpractice  Oct 3, 2014 10:05:04pm

re: #90 De Kolta Chair

A few years ago, Revolution released updated versions of the first two Broken Sword games. This old point & clicker was in seventh heaven, as opposed to Sierra ‘s 7th guest (pun intended).

[Favorite computer game of all time: Space Quest 2: Vohaul’s Revenge.]

I miss puzzle games like 7th Guest, the kind that you’d push yourself to the point of beating your head against the nearest wall on a difficult puzzle. Nowadays, “puzzles” in games amount to “Find items in Room A, use on door in Room B,” i.e. the Resident Evil approach.

92 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Oct 3, 2014 10:06:52pm

re: #91 Targetpractice

I miss puzzle games like 7th Guest, the kind that you’d push yourself to the point of beating your head against the nearest wall on a difficult puzzle. Nowadays, “puzzles” in games amount to “Find items in Room A, use on door in Room B,” i.e. the Resident Evil approach.

Not always. The Assassin’s Creed series had some really decent and frustrating ones, especially in the earlier games.

93 Higgs Boson's Mate  Oct 3, 2014 10:08:10pm

re: #86 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

I used to help run a perpetual world in Neverwinter Nights. I know how it goes timewise to do scripting. It is definitely a labor of love.

To be sure. It’s a nice rush when the NPC/Asset/Quest you’ve created works seamlessly in the gameworld. My hat’s off to Bethesda for making the games moddable and for providing the tools and the documentation to enable aspiring mod makers to get a start.

94 Targetpractice  Oct 3, 2014 10:10:05pm

re: #92 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

Not always. The Assassin’s Creed series had some really decent and frustrating ones, especially in the earlier games.

Key word is “had.” Don’t think I’ve seen some really good puzzle games since Silent Hill 4. Most games now just make you clean out a dungeon just to find the item you need to advance the storyline.

95 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Oct 3, 2014 10:10:54pm

re: #93 Higgs Boson’s Mate

To be sure. It’s a nice rush when the NPC/Asset/Quest you’ve created works seamlessly in the gameworld. My hat’s off to Bethesda for making the games moddable and for providing the tools and the documentation to enable aspiring mod makers to get a start.

Yeah i had skyrim and a ton of mods. Had a lot of fun with it. Bioware did a great job with their toolkit and IDE for creating new stuff in NWN. One person even remade eye of the beholder using it.

96 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Oct 3, 2014 10:12:42pm

re: #94 Targetpractice

Key word is “had.” Don’t think I’ve seen some really good puzzle games since Silent Hill 4. Most games now just make you clean out a dungeon just to find the item you need to advance the storyline.

I only say had because I just finished the last of the AC games and am waiting for Unity. Granted the puzzles in the newer ones are a bit more visual but they are still pretty decent.

97 goddamnedfrank  Oct 3, 2014 10:13:18pm

re: #91 Targetpractice

I miss puzzle games like 7th Guest, the kind that you’d push yourself to the point of beating your head against the nearest wall on a difficult puzzle. Nowadays, “puzzles” in games amount to “Find items in Room A, use on door in Room B,” i.e. the Resident Evil approach.

There are some good side scrolling action puzzle games out there like Braid, Trine and Trine 2 that can make you think a bit. Some of the solutions in Braid are downright counterintuitive but the game as a whole is incredibly well crafted and unique.

The Trine games are just gorgeous to look at and each room has multiple valid solutions that can usually be solved by at least two of the three hot-switchable characters. Trine 2 on my new MBP 15” Retina display is easily the most stunningly beautiful game I’ve ever seen.

KAMI is an interesting puzzle game with a paper folding theme, simple and very calming.

98 prairiefire  Oct 3, 2014 10:15:10pm

I like to read the gamer threads. My daughter still builds on Minecraft.

99 Targetpractice  Oct 3, 2014 10:15:42pm

Though I don’t know why I’m pining for puzzle games of yore so much when I spend more time these days playing games like Fallout or Mass Effect. After I finish this latest run in ME, I’ll probably flip a coin to decide whether to replay Bioshock Infinite or Deus Ex.

100 prairiefire  Oct 3, 2014 10:17:06pm

My husband is freaking out over the baseball game.

101 De Kolta Chair  Oct 3, 2014 10:17:41pm

re: #88 Targetpractice

Tim Schafer of Monkey Island, Grin Fandango, Full Trottle fame appeared at a gamers symposium at my nephew’s high school last year. He excitedly texted me though the whole thing.

And with that I bid ya’ll adieu until next time.

102 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance  Oct 3, 2014 10:20:08pm

re: #99 Targetpractice

MYST was another good puzzle game.

103 goddamnedfrank  Oct 3, 2014 10:21:04pm

re: #89 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

A couple of oldies but goodies that are currently on steam are the original Baldur’s Gate enhanced to run at higher resolutions and to include the ability to play online (not just lan) and a redo of the old Shadowrun game that was on genesis/snes.

Both Shadowrun Returns and the Dragonfall Directors Cut DLC are worth getting for anybody who was into the Shadowrun Universe. Haven’t played the SNES reboot, will wait until they finish porting it over to the Director’s Cut engine.

104 Targetpractice  Oct 3, 2014 10:21:51pm

re: #102 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

MYST was another good puzzle game.

Loved MYST. Except the music puzzle. I hated that with a passion.

105 bluebonnetbunny  Oct 3, 2014 10:32:47pm

re: #2 Charles Johnson
Hi Charles - Shortly after I re-tweeted your tweet my Twitter account was locked for ” unusual activity”. That’s the first time I’ve ever been locked out in 4 years and almost 19K Tweets. But, I’m sure the timing was just a coincidence. Keep hitting those nerves!

106 Targetpractice  Oct 3, 2014 10:45:12pm

Actually, if there’s a game genre that I think still has a lot of potential, it’s the various survival games that are big on throwing characters into a randomly generated world and expecting them to survive off either what they can find or what they can craft.

107 Higgs Boson's Mate  Oct 3, 2014 11:09:30pm

re: #106 Targetpractice

Having spent some time in game dev I can tell you that randomly generated worlds are a complete bitch for first person games. Coding a map generator capable of generating a sizeable map with enough features to be interesting while remaining navigable by a player character on foot is an unperfected art. If that wasn’t enough, there’s the need to present the player with a defined goal beyond just existing in the gameworld. Accomplishing a goal requires trigger events, usually tied to locations, which must themselves be allocated by the map generator.

If you could get the financing, assemble a team, and forgo throttling anyone from Marketing you’d have an epic game.

108 darthstar  Oct 3, 2014 11:13:12pm

#Vote, fuckers!

109 Eclectic Cyborg  Oct 3, 2014 11:22:45pm

Man did I ever put the hours in on that one. 1996. Good times had by all.

But don’t even get me started on that joke of a movie they put out a few years back.

110 William Barnett-Lewis  Oct 3, 2014 11:43:13pm

I really miss games like wizardry, might & magic, bard’s tale, and so on. Those rpgs were the ones I spent the time on. For whatever reason games like the modern D&D derived ones, while pretty, just aren’t as much fun. For me, ymmv, and all that…

111 Timothy Watson  Oct 3, 2014 11:57:12pm

re: #85 De Kolta Chair

Tim Schafer and Double Fine will soon release the remastered version of Grim Fandango. Great googamooga!

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Remastered Grim Fandango? *heart melts*

Now, all I need to make my life complete is a new X-wing or TIE Fighter game.

112 Timothy Watson  Oct 4, 2014 12:00:14am

re: #96 Brother Holy Cruise Missile of Mild Acceptance

I only say had because I just finished the last of the AC games and am waiting for Unity. Granted the puzzles in the newer ones are a bit more visual but they are still pretty decent.

For some reason, I absolutely love Assassin’s Creed. I think it’s something about the bonus objectives (I started with Assassin’s Creed III, which came with my PS3 when I bought it, and worked my way through the series), completing the bonus objectives helps fulfill my OCD or something.

113 Timothy Watson  Oct 4, 2014 12:02:27am

Oh, and my long awaited need for a remake/sequel to Alpha Centauri will finally be fulfilled later this month when Civilization: Beyond Earth gets released!

114 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Oct 4, 2014 12:09:30am

re: #90 De Kolta Chair

A few years ago, Revolution released updated versions of the first two Broken Sword games. This old point & clicker was in seventh heaven, as opposed to Sierra ‘s 7th guest (pun intended).

Favorite computer game of all time: Space Quest 2: Vohaul’s Revenge.

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Yup, that’s as high tech as the game gets, folks.

I’m a Sierra fan, but I much prefer their VGA graphics (like, absolutely - both to higher- and to lower-res).

115 Kragar  Oct 4, 2014 12:18:39am

re: #110 William Barnett-Lewis

I really miss games like wizardry, might & magic, bard’s tale, and so on. Those rpgs were the ones I spent the time on. For whatever reason games like the modern D&D derived ones, while pretty, just aren’t as much fun. For me, ymmv, and all that…

I miss some of the old Travellers based games. Just an upgradeable ship, a star map and off you go.

116 Kragar  Oct 4, 2014 12:21:42am

And now, Night Lords Terminators, aka The Atramentar

117 goddamnedfrank  Oct 4, 2014 12:35:07am

Mr. Creepsauce Esquire is back with more retardation.

118 goddamnedfrank  Oct 4, 2014 1:39:52am
119 wheat-dogghazi  Oct 4, 2014 1:47:39am

Hong Kong police arrest 19 counter-protesters, saying some have connection with Triads.
bbc.com

120 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 4, 2014 3:08:51am

re: #61 Targetpractice

Guns have killed more people in the US in the last 3 months than Ebola has.

Then people should stop coming into contact with gun vomit…

121 sattv4u2  Oct 4, 2014 3:24:52am

So between the meds I’m on coupled with too many hours of work and the lack of sleep, I ALMOST just brushed my teeth with this
Image: ch-130_2z.jpg

instead of this

Image: colgate-toothpaste.jpg

122 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 4, 2014 3:30:02am

re: #121 sattv4u2

So between the meds I’m on coupled with too many hours of work and the lack of sleep, I ALMOST just brushed my teeth with this
Image: ch-130_2z.jpg

instead of this

Image: colgate-toothpaste.jpg

I almost washed my hands with toothpaste (Crest toothpaste in a weird non-tube dispenser)

Germans are fond of packaging mustard, mayonnaise and horseradish in toothpaste tubes.

123 sattv4u2  Oct 4, 2014 3:40:01am

re: #122 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Germans are fond of packaging mustard, mayonnaise and horseradish in toothpaste tubes

Hey Klaus, this hot dog ,, it tastes oddly ,,, minty!!!

124 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Oct 4, 2014 3:51:55am

re: #123 sattv4u2

Hey Klaus, this hot dog ,, it tastes oddly ,,, minty!!!

Ja, ja this is a new Minzzahnpastahotdogsorte. Now essen!

125 William Barnett-Lewis  Oct 4, 2014 3:53:52am

re: #122 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

I almost washed my hands with toothpaste (Crest toothpaste in a weird non-tube dispenser)

Germans are fond of packaging mustard, mayonnaise and horseradish in toothpaste tubes.

The various meat products in those tunes always boggled me. Heck of a way to serve pate…

126 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Oct 4, 2014 3:58:09am
5) Isn’t Hell just a “state of mind?”


No, it is not. It is an actual geographical location, just as Heaven is. It is located in the center of the earth currently, according to 49 different verses in the Bible.
soulchoiceministries.com

lololol

127 sattv4u2  Oct 4, 2014 3:58:33am

re: #125 William Barnett-Lewis

The various meat products in those tunes always boggled me. Heck of a way to serve pate…

The most famous Meat-Loaf Tune

Youtube Video

128 Timothy Watson  Oct 4, 2014 4:09:07am

re: #126 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

lololol

Hell is wherever McChuckleNuts is going when he dies.

129 William Barnett-Lewis  Oct 4, 2014 4:10:35am

re: #127 sattv4u2

The most famous Meat-Loaf Tune

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“smartphone ” &,” autocorrect “: which is less true?

130 wheat-dogghazi  Oct 4, 2014 4:11:40am

re: #126 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

So, where is Heaven? Don’t tell me they say “up there.”

131 sattv4u2  Oct 4, 2014 4:14:47am

re: #130 wheat-dogghazi

So, where is Heaven? Don’t tell me they say “up there.”

I found where the landing strip for it is!!

google.com

132 Timothy Watson  Oct 4, 2014 4:17:36am

re: #131 sattv4u2

I found where the landing strip for it is!!

google.com

In Georgia? Fuck it, I’m intentionally going to Hell if that’s the other choice.

133 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 4, 2014 4:20:27am

re: #125 William Barnett-Lewis

The various meat products in those tunes always boggled me. Heck of a way to serve pate…

tube steak, anyone?

134 sattv4u2  Oct 4, 2014 4:23:57am

re: #132 Timothy Watson

In Georgia? Fuck it, I’m intentionally going to Hell if that’s the other choice.

Don’t knock it till you’ve tried it

I’ve been living here 16 years now. There’s a lot to like (as long as, like anywhere else, you ignore the crazies) ((and no,, there aren’t abundantly more than anywhere else I’ve lived,,,, Massachusetts, where I was born/ raised and spent most of my 1st 45 years )))

135 Timothy Watson  Oct 4, 2014 4:26:32am

re: #134 sattv4u2

Don’t knock it till you’ve tried it

I’ve been living here 16 years now. There’s a lot to like (as long as, like anywhere else, you ignore the crazies) ((and no,, there aren’t abundantly more than anywhere else I’ve lived,,,, Massachusetts, where I was born/ raised and spent most of my 1st 45 years )))

You might have a point, it seems like I’m surrounded by idiots or crazies here in Virginia (one of the crazies was an Oklahoma City truther [she thinks the federal government was responsible for the Oklahoma City bombing] and ran for state Delegate as Republican a couple years ago).

136 sattv4u2  Oct 4, 2014 4:29:43am

re: #135 Timothy Watson

You might have a point, it seems like I’m surrounded by idiots or crazies here in Virginia (one of the crazies was an Oklahoma City truther [she thinks the federal government was responsible for the Oklahoma City bombing] and ran for state Delegate as Republican a couple years ago).

Yeah. The crazy bus has stops everywhere. It would be nirvana if those in the center, those that lean left and lean right could somehow convince those on the fringes that it would be a good idea if we gave them 2-3 connected states somewhere that they could have if they promise not to make any cross-border incursions!!

137 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Oct 4, 2014 4:32:47am

re: #130 wheat-dogghazi

So, where is Heaven? Don’t tell me they say “up there.”

And why not?

Youtube Video

138 sattv4u2  Oct 4, 2014 4:38:47am

What is WRONG with people!!!

nbcbayarea.com

Woman Steals Wheelchair From Man, 65, From UN Plaza: SF Police

139 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Oct 4, 2014 4:44:20am

re: #138 sattv4u2

I suppose mental illness.

140 Decatur Deb  Oct 4, 2014 4:44:24am

re: #136 sattv4u2

Yeah. The crazy bus has stops everywhere. It would be nirvana if those in the center, those that lean left and lean right could somehow convince those on the fringes that it would be a good idea if we gave them 2-3 connected states somewhere that they could have if they promise not to make any cross-border incursions!!

The difference is that here in Alabama they don’t seem crazy, just ‘folks’.

Off to change that. BBL

141 sattv4u2  Oct 4, 2014 4:45:35am

re: #139 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

I suppose mental illness.

In a way, I hope (if you know what I mean)

142 sattv4u2  Oct 4, 2014 4:46:15am

re: #140 Decatur Deb

The difference is that here in Alabama they don’t seem crazy, just ‘folks’.

Off to change that. BBL

Nobody that’s teh crazy thinks that they are anything but just “folks”

143 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Oct 4, 2014 4:52:15am

re: #141 sattv4u2

In a way, I hope (if you know what I mean)

The behavior (hopping into the wheelchair to ride away) doesn’t make much sense otherwise.

144 sattv4u2  Oct 4, 2014 4:56:10am

re: #143 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

The behavior (hopping into the wheelchair to ride away) doesn’t make much sense otherwise.

yeah, but you never know

Sometimes, teh crazies MAKE sense and the sensible’s make teh crazy!

145 Mike Lamb  Oct 4, 2014 5:01:45am

Up at 3:30 AM to start smoking a 7.5 lb boneless pork butt for football later on.

Wing Commander is one of my absolute favorite series. Chris Roberts knows his stuff, although I couldn’t get into Strike Commander and Privateer as much.

Favorite series was probably Ultima, up until Ascension, which never happened.

The original Legend of Zelda might still be the best adventure RPG ever.

146 sattv4u2  Oct 4, 2014 5:03:51am

re: #145 Mike Lamb

Up at 3:30 AM to start smoking a 7.5 lb boneless pork butt

You must have a HUGE piece of Zig Zag rolling paper for that!!!!

147 darthstar  Oct 4, 2014 5:12:50am

re: #146 sattv4u2

Up at 3:30 AM to start smoking a 7.5 lb boneless pork butt

You must have a HUGE piece of Zig Zag rolling paper for that!!!!

148 sattv4u2  Oct 4, 2014 5:13:59am

re: #147 darthstar

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Dude,, this butt is SO mellow !! !

149 sattv4u2  Oct 4, 2014 5:15:57am

re: #147 darthstar

btw Didn’t I tell you Peavy was a bulldog when you guys got him??

Love his intensity

150 Flounder  Oct 4, 2014 5:32:51am

Ladies and gentlemen I give you the 2015 NYC Taxi Drivers Calendar!

151 sattv4u2  Oct 4, 2014 5:34:51am

re: #150 Flounder

Ladies and gentlemen I give you the 2015 NYC Taxi Drivers Calendar!

No wonder I have an Uber account!!!
//

152 darthstar  Oct 4, 2014 5:47:32am

re: #149 sattv4u2

btw Didn’t I tell you Peavy was a bulldog when you guys got him??

Love his intensity

He’s like a bulldog with Tourette’s…trying to imagine a conversation between him and Pence in the dugout yesterday.

FAAARGH!
PRMK!
GROOT!
WRULFRGRM!

153 sattv4u2  Oct 4, 2014 5:48:18am

re: #152 darthstar

He’s like a bulldog with Tourette’s…trying to imagine a conversation between him and Pence in the dugout yesterday.

FAAARGH!
PRMK!
GROOT!
WRULFRGRM!

heh

MOST of his conversations are with,,, well,, HIMSELF !

154 darthstar  Oct 4, 2014 5:50:20am

re: #153 sattv4u2

heh

MOST of his conversations are with,,, well,, HIMSELF !

Yeah…and most of the time he looks like he’s calling himself ‘Fucker’

How about those Dodgers though? Kershaw set a new MLB record.

155 darthstar  Oct 4, 2014 5:53:05am
156 sattv4u2  Oct 4, 2014 5:53:46am

re: #154 darthstar

Yeah…and most of the time he looks like he’s calling himself ‘Fucker’

How about those Dodgers though? Kershaw set a new MLB record.
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Playoffs are a total different animal than the regular season

157 darthstar  Oct 4, 2014 6:02:10am

re: #156 sattv4u2

Playoffs are a total different animal than the regular season

That’s what I told my Pittsburg fan friend when he said he expected the Giants to get pounded because that’s what happened when they were in SF.

Game 1 is in the books. Now it’s all about game 2. Another old guy on the hill for us today…Tim Hudson.

158 wheat-dogghazi  Oct 4, 2014 6:04:30am

Deleted. made a mistake

159 wheat-dogghazi  Oct 4, 2014 6:06:00am

re: #147 darthstar

A super blunt! I hope she’s not bogarting it.

I learned something today watching the TV. The founder of E-Z-Wider papers was a ski bum in Vermont. He made a lot of money off selling papers, then one day decided to buy a small cafe called Green Mountain Coffee Roasters. He expanded it. It’s now known as Keurig Green Mountain, because the company bought Keurig.

Robert P. Stiller is 331 on the Forbes 400 list. forbes.com

And he has lots of time to ski now.

160 darthstar  Oct 4, 2014 6:13:29am
161 sattv4u2  Oct 4, 2014 6:35:24am

umm,,,,,,,okay!!!

During questioning by Sparta Police Department cops, Reese explained that his sword wielding was commonplace: “Reese told officers he always answers the door with a sword to protect himself against religious people.”

thesmokinggun.com

Me ,, I just answer the door in my untied/ open in the front bathrobe to
protect myself against religious people!!

162 darthstar  Oct 4, 2014 6:42:14am

re: #161 sattv4u2

Those little fuckers want $10 for a bag of popcorn. Ten bucks! I bought one, once…because I like caramel popcorn…but now I tell them where they can put their ten dollar bags when I see them. The girl scouts charge $4 a box for cookies…COOKIES! Those you at least have to make. Ten bucks for popcorn. Screw those kids. Sword guy should have run one through and said, “Okay, who wants a merit badge for first aid? Bobby doesn’t look like he’s got much time.”

163 darthstar  Oct 4, 2014 6:42:24am

/

164 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Oct 4, 2014 6:43:09am

re: #161 sattv4u2

umm,,,,,,,okay!!!

During questioning by Sparta Police Department cops, Reese explained that his sword wielding was commonplace: “Reese told officers he always answers the door with a sword to protect himself against religious people.”

thesmokinggun.com

Me ,, I just answer the door in my untied/ open in the front bathrobe to
protect myself against religious people!!

Well, I would ask, what exactly did the guy mean by a “sword”.

165 sattv4u2  Oct 4, 2014 6:43:45am

re: #162 darthstar

BOY SCOUT TROOP FOUND IN WOODS WITH DISMEMBERED BODY,,,,,, LEFT HAND WAS HOLDING A SWORD

166 sattv4u2  Oct 4, 2014 6:45:02am

re: #164 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

Well, I would ask, what exactly did the guy mean by a “sword”.

Picture link in article

(click “seen here”)

167 darthstar  Oct 4, 2014 6:47:16am

re: #166 sattv4u2

Picture link in article

(click “seen here”)

Oh, he’s either Ninja or Samurai…well, that explains everything.

168 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Oct 4, 2014 6:51:14am

re: #167 darthstar

Oh, he’s either Ninja or Samurai…well, that explains everything.

He’s just another Robin.

169 Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 4, 2014 6:55:08am

All the old time games discussed overnight here reminded me how much I enjoyed Zork back in the day. My oldest stepson and I had huge convoluted maps we drew, with annotations, as we went along.
For old times sake, I just downloaded Zork (and ZorkII and ZorkIII, I don’t remember playing those) to play it again during the cold dreary days of winter.

170 sattv4u2  Oct 4, 2014 6:55:39am

And on that note, the long quiet drive home beckons

171 Romantic Heretic  Oct 4, 2014 7:05:37am

re: #118 goddamnedfrank

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I have a counter-proposition, Chuckie.

Proposed: People like you that hate themselves are the biggest danger to society that exist.

172 darthstar  Oct 4, 2014 7:05:43am
173 darthstar  Oct 4, 2014 7:15:37am

Heh…apparently the #IAmRepublican promotion couldn’t find actual Republicans, so they also used stock photos.

aattp.org

174 darthstar  Oct 4, 2014 7:16:11am
175 darthstar  Oct 4, 2014 7:19:06am

Dear god, the ad is so desperate…

176 wheat-dogghazi  Oct 4, 2014 7:19:58am

So, I watched the latest Godzilla movie. It’s not bad, but would have been more fun in the theater. There’s lots of science-y nitpicks I have with the movie, but here’s the one that bugs me the most.

A nuclear warhead explodes just off the coast of northern California. I mean, really, just off the coast, in an excursion boat, that happens to have a GPS-controlled autopilot, with only a few minutes to spare before it goes blooey. That boat could not have been more than 5 miles (or knots, if you want to be nautical) at sea when the warhead detonated.

Yet the helicopter that rescued our hero manages to escape. They watch the damn thing go off. There is no shock wave, or resulting tsunami, nor radiation. Just a bright flash and a little, baby mushroom cloud.

Sorry, scriptwriters, that warhead would have blasted the ‘copter out of the sky and toasted most of the Bay Area, with lingering radiation effects. Like, you know, Hiroshima and Nagasaki, but worse.

And aren’t those things really heavy? I doubt the handful of soldiers sent to retrieve it could have *run* with the thing so easily.

OK, nitpicking mode off.

177 darthstar  Oct 4, 2014 7:21:16am
178 thedopefishlives  Oct 4, 2014 7:23:25am

Morning Lizardim.

179 Dave In Austin  Oct 4, 2014 7:27:04am

Heh……

180 Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 4, 2014 7:29:32am

Thanks to everyone for voting for my goofy hound dog…she’s headed to the quarter finals!
Even though it’s a just plan silly competition, I have a ridiculous smile at the moment.

181 Dark_Falcon  Oct 4, 2014 7:30:21am

re: #35 Charles Johnson

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182 thedopefishlives  Oct 4, 2014 7:31:13am

re: #181 Dark_Falcon

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Ugh. The punk is a vile troll. This isn’t journalism, it’s fucking stupid.

183 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Oct 4, 2014 7:32:04am

re: #175 darthstar

If you need to prove you are a human being…
(No gay or Muslim or atheist or poor Republicans? Hmmm…)

184 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator  Oct 4, 2014 7:34:29am

re: #183 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

The not so subtle message is: those libtards want you to think Republicans are not humans. Republicans are the real victims!

185 GlutenFreeJesus  Oct 4, 2014 7:38:28am

re: #176 wheat-dogghazi

A nuke didn’t even tickle the big bad monsters, yet the soldier boys are running around with guns shooting at them. Makes sense, no? Heh.

186 GlutenFreeJesus  Oct 4, 2014 7:39:18am

re: #184 Islamo-Masonic Conspirator

They aren’t humans as much as they are stock photos available to anyone on the Internet. For free.

187 Dave In Austin  Oct 4, 2014 7:39:54am

The Pillows of Japan

Youtube Video

188 darthstar  Oct 4, 2014 7:40:07am
189 darthstar  Oct 4, 2014 7:43:14am

re: #182 thedopefishlives

Ugh. The punk is a vile troll. This isn’t journalism, it’s fucking stupid.

Aside from the several dozen people who mock him and argue with him on Twitter, does anyone pay attention to what he says?

190 wheat-dogghazi  Oct 4, 2014 7:43:18am

re: #186 GlutenFreeJesus

They aren’t humans as much as they are stock photos available to anyone on the Internet. For free.

Some you need to pay for. They are royalty-free, meaning the photog only gets paid once for each purchase.

This is not to say you can’t just scrape the photos off a website, if you’re really cheap. But istock.com and other stock-photo sites watermark their images.

191 darthstar  Oct 4, 2014 7:43:53am

Dear Texas…the French didn’t lose their shit like you are.

192 darthstar  Oct 4, 2014 7:45:22am

It’s becoming more and more evident that, while Ebola is a deadly disease, in first world countries it’s not fatal. Proper hospitals seem to be the key.

193 darthstar  Oct 4, 2014 7:45:59am
194 wheat-dogghazi  Oct 4, 2014 7:47:00am

re: #181 Dark_Falcon

Real journalists do not publish the names of children without the permission of local law enforcement and the kids’ parents. It’s SOP. Big Chuck must have missed that lecture.

195 thedopefishlives  Oct 4, 2014 7:49:02am

re: #189 darthstar

Aside from the several dozen people who mock him and argue with him on Twitter, does anyone pay attention to what he says?

But but but award-winning journalist!

196 Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 4, 2014 7:49:52am

Crap, I just learned that my sister who is a year younger than me had a heart attack yesterday.
Fortunately, she is doing OK and the doctors are deciding if surgery is necessary.

197 thedopefishlives  Oct 4, 2014 7:51:14am

re: #196 Backwoods_Sleuth

Crap, I just learned that my sister who is a year younger than me had a heart attack yesterday.
Fortunately, she is doing OK and the doctors are deciding if surgery is necessary.

{{{Backwoods}}}

Prayers for you, your sister, and your family.

198 wheat-dogghazi  Oct 4, 2014 7:51:20am

re: #196 Backwoods_Sleuth

Crap, I just learned that my sister who is a year younger than me had a heart attack yesterday.
Fortunately, she is doing OK and the doctors are deciding if surgery is necessary.

Hope everything goes well.

199 Dr Lizardo  Oct 4, 2014 7:55:59am

re: #193 darthstar

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Not just for Germans, either……it’s tuition-free for international students as well, so fuck going to a US university - head on over to Germany!!

200 Higgs Boson's Mate  Oct 4, 2014 7:58:11am

re: #176 wheat-dogghazi

And aren’t those things really heavy? I doubt the handful of soldiers sent to retrieve it could have *run* with the thing so easily.

The W54 warhead, developed in the early Sixties, weighed around 51 lbs in the MK-54 version deployed by the Army as a part of the Davy Crockett weapon. The MK-54 was a sub-kiloton device with a yield equivalent to 10-20 tons of TNT.

201 wheat-dogghazi  Oct 4, 2014 7:59:18am

re: #185 GlutenFreeJesus

A nuke didn’t even tickle the big bad monsters, yet the soldier boys are running around with guns shooting at them. Makes sense, no? Heh.

Just one of many holes in the plot.

202 wheat-dogghazi  Oct 4, 2014 8:01:11am

re: #200 Higgs Boson’s Mate

The W54 warhead, developed in the early Sixties, weighed around 51 lbs in the MK-54 version deployed by the Army as a part of the Davy Crockett weapon. The MK-54 was a sub-kiloton device with a yield equivalent to 10-20 tons of TNT.

Ah, so the weight and the yield are about right for what the movie shows.

I retract those nitpicks.

203 danarchy  Oct 4, 2014 8:21:34am

re: #199 Dr Lizardo

Not just for Germans, either……it’s tuition-free for international students as well, so fuck going to a US university - head on over to Germany!!

Just wondering, I am assuming this is just state universities, not the private universities in Germany.

204 wrenchwench  Oct 4, 2014 8:22:58am

Balloon Fiesta!

205 Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 4, 2014 8:26:04am
206 wrenchwench  Oct 4, 2014 8:26:44am

re: #196 Backwoods_Sleuth

Crap, I just learned that my sister who is a year younger than me had a heart attack yesterday.
Fortunately, she is doing OK and the doctors are deciding if surgery is necessary.

{{{BWS + sister}}}

207 Dark_Falcon  Oct 4, 2014 8:42:47am

re: #35 Charles Johnson

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re: #191 darthstar

Dear Texas…the French didn’t lose their shit like you are.

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Are Texans really losing it, or is it just some internet trolls? Because from where I sit it seems to be just the latter.

208 wheat-dogghazi  Oct 4, 2014 8:48:19am

re: #207 Dark_Falcon

Are Texans really losing it, or is it just some internet trolls? Because from where I sit it seems to be just the latter.

The official response from Dallas authorities was spot-on. They’re handling it as they should. Chuckie J. and the (Other) Fearmongers* are the ones losing their shit over Mr Duncan’s misfortune.

* New band name suggestion

209 Dark_Falcon  Oct 4, 2014 8:52:17am

re: #208 wheat-dogghazi

The official response from Dallas authorities was spot-on. They’re handling as they should. Chuckie J. and the (Other) Fearmongers* are the ones losing their shit over Mr Duncan’s misfortune.

* New band name suggestion

Charles C. Johnson is just being butthurt because Thomas Eric Duncan has already proven himself to be a better man than CCJ could ever hope to be:

It appears an act of compassion led Thomas Eric Duncan to contract Ebola, and become the first patient diagnosed with the deadly disease on U.S. soil.

Just four days before he boarded a plane bound for Dallas, Texas, Duncan helped carry his landlord’s convulsing pregnant daughter to a Liberian clinic to be treated for Ebola, The New York Times reports.

The woman, named by The New York Times as 19-year-old Marthalene Williams died the next day, after being turned away from the overcrowded hospital that didn’t have room for her.

The landlord’s son and three neighbors who came in contact with the woman also died soon afterwards.

But Mr Duncan wasn’t showing any symptoms when he arrived at a Monrovia airport on September 19, and therefore was allowed on a flight out of Liberia bound for the U.S.

210 Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 4, 2014 8:52:42am

I googled the image and it’s an interesting story.

Breaking up the flat agricultural areas of Argentina’s Pampas is a guitar formed entirely out of trees. Stretching for 2/3 of a mile, the multi-colored instrument was created by one Argentine farmer to memorialize his wife who tragically died at the age of 25.

more at: atlasobscura.com

211 Dark_Falcon  Oct 4, 2014 8:53:50am

My own thought is that CCJ is a racist who can’t stand the idea of a [n-word] being a better man than he is, so he turns the black man into some sort of monster.

212 Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 4, 2014 8:56:04am

re: #211 Dark_Falcon

My own thought is that CCJ is a racist who can’t stand the idea of a [n-word] being a better man than he is, so he turns the black man into some sort of monster.

CCJ is an attention whore with delusions of grandeur.

213 Targetpractice  Oct 4, 2014 8:57:44am

re: #212 Backwoods_Sleuth

CCJ is an attention whore with delusions of grandeur adequacy.

214 Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 4, 2014 9:05:10am

My daughter-in-law in Kankakee said it was snowing there this morning.
Guess I won’t complain much about the frost forecast for tonight in the backwoods…

216 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 4, 2014 9:11:46am

re: #193 darthstar

Germany just eliminated tuition while Americans drowning in $1.2 trillion student loan debt

Germany had instituted a small tuition fee (around $600 per semester) in some states. It was still less than a third of the cheapest in-state tuition in the USA. But even that was too much.

Students can also get a stipend of around $700 per month, which they do have to pay back.

No country has a long-term interest in producing classes of college graduates who are already burdened with massive debt.

217 Targetpractice  Oct 4, 2014 9:15:34am

re: #216 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Germany just eliminated tuition while Americans drowning in $1.2 trillion student loan debt

Germany had instituted a small tuition fee (around $600 per semester) in some states. It was still less than a third of the cheapest in-state tuition in the USA. But even that was too much.

Students can also get a stipend of around $700 per month, which they do have to pay back.

No country has a long-term interest in producing classes of college graduates who are already burdened with massive debt.

Except the US, where long-term debt makes educated workers more desperate for any job they can find, making exploiting them easier. When the guy working for you knows that working unpaid overtime is the difference between a job and debt collectors, he’ll grin and bear it.

218 Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 4, 2014 9:16:24am
220 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 4, 2014 9:16:54am

re: #217 Targetpractice

Except the US, where long-term debt makes educated workers more desperate for any job they can find, making exploiting them easier. When the guy working for you knows that working unpaid overtime is the difference between a job and debt collectors, he’ll grin and bear it.

That is a short-term advantage, and then only for some. We as a whole are only just beginning to see the long-term effects.

221 Dark_Falcon  Oct 4, 2014 9:17:19am

re: #215 Varek Raith

Antonin Scalia Would Really Hate the Secular Guy Who Framed the Constitution

Michael Luciano can bray like an ass with the best of them. Believing that Satan is real does not make someone a “religious fanatic”. Nor does the fact that James Madison held different views on matters such as chaplains in the military from Antonin Scalia mean that Mr. Justice Scalia would “hate” President Madison. Justice Scalia is entirely capable of disagreeing with someone without hating them.

Luciano’s piece is overwrought and actively hostile from the get-go. It will not convince anyone who is not already a committed liberal.

222 Targetpractice  Oct 4, 2014 9:21:21am

re: #220 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

That is a short-term advantage, and then only for some. We as a whole are only just beginning to see the long-term effects.

I think it’s becoming obvious to more and more people that much of the short-term planning of the past 30+ years is coming back to bite a whole lot of people in the ass. All those years of “putting off til tomorrow” when it came to things like covering pensions and education are now coming back to haunt those who thought the tax cuts passed instead would lead to growth that would cover the cuts.

223 Ryan King  Oct 4, 2014 9:22:05am

re: #219 Varek Raith

Budget Cuts “Eroded Our Ability to Respond” to Ebola, Says Top Health Official

Wingnuts cry about government largesse and try to cut budgets, then cry about government failures when the budgets are cut.

This is why Bircherism, libertarianism, and capitalism make convenient bedfellows.

224 Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 4, 2014 9:22:37am
225 Editor in Chief  Oct 4, 2014 9:22:39am

re: #196 Backwoods_Sleuth

Crap, I just learned that my sister who is a year younger than me had a heart attack yesterday.
Fortunately, she is doing OK and the doctors are deciding if surgery is necessary.

Hugs
{{{B_S}}}

226 sattv4u2  Oct 4, 2014 9:24:07am

re: #196 Backwoods_Sleuth

Crap, I just learned that my sister who is a year younger than me had a heart attack yesterday.
Fortunately, she is doing OK and the doctors are deciding if surgery is necessary.

damn

Sorry,,,,, good thoughts on the way

227 Dr Lizardo  Oct 4, 2014 9:24:39am

re: #224 Backwoods_Sleuth

#BREAKING “Baby Doc” Duvalier, the former dictator of Haiti has died

228 sattv4u2  Oct 4, 2014 9:24:41am

re: #224 Backwoods_Sleuth

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wow,, I thought he had taken the eternal dirt nap decades ago!!

229 Dr Lizardo  Oct 4, 2014 9:25:24am

re: #197 thedopefishlives

{{{Backwoods}}}

Prayers for you, your sister, and your family.

Hoping for the best here in Ostrava.

230 Charles Johnson  Oct 4, 2014 9:26:37am

re: #189 darthstar

Aside from the several dozen people who mock him and argue with him on Twitter, does anyone pay attention to what he says?

Unfortunately, yes. He’s been getting links at Drudge Report.

231 PhillyPretzel  Oct 4, 2014 9:26:51am

re: #196 Backwoods_Sleuth

You and your family are in my prayers.

232 Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 4, 2014 9:27:05am

re: #228 sattv4u2

wow,, I thought he had taken the eternal dirt nap decades ago!!

That was his father, Papa Doc, who died in 1971.
Baby Doc (who just died of a heart attack) was 61 years old.

233 Targetpractice  Oct 4, 2014 9:28:06am

re: #219 Varek Raith

Budget Cuts “Eroded Our Ability to Respond” to Ebola, Says Top Health Official

“The Republicans are the party that says government doesn’t work and then they get elected and prove it.”

234 darthstar  Oct 4, 2014 9:29:10am
235 sattv4u2  Oct 4, 2014 9:29:28am

re: #232 Backwoods_Sleuth

That was his father, Papa Doc, who died in 1971.
Baby Doc (who just died of a heart attack) was 61 years old.

Oh,, I knew that

I thought the Baby took the dive shortly after he ,,umm,,,,, accepted early retirement!!

236 Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 4, 2014 9:29:52am

re: #235 sattv4u2

Oh,, I knew that

I though the Baby took the dive shortly after he ,,umm,,,,, accepted early retirement!!

heh…

237 Kid A  Oct 4, 2014 9:30:10am

With CCJ’s track record of bullshit, can’t Twitter just ban his account and be done with him?

238 darthstar  Oct 4, 2014 9:30:41am

re: #230 Charles Johnson

Unfortunately, yes. He’s been getting links at Drudge Report.

My brother reads Drudge. He’s a political retard. And a lawyer.

239 Varek Raith  Oct 4, 2014 9:30:54am

re: #237 Kid A

With CCJ’s track record of bullshit, can’t Twitter just ban his account and be done with him?

That would require integrity on twitter’s part.
Something they lack.

240 Kid A  Oct 4, 2014 9:31:06am

re: #238 darthstar

My brother reads Drudge. He’s a political retard. And a lawyer.

I know a lot of dumbass lawyers.

242 PhillyPretzel  Oct 4, 2014 9:31:43am

re: #237 Kid A

They have to make a solid case so that if (most likely) he sues they will be covered.

243 Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 4, 2014 9:31:52am

um, yeah…

244 darthstar  Oct 4, 2014 9:32:26am

re: #241 Dark_Falcon

Photo Of The Day: Your dog poses with a rifle, my cat actually knows how they work.

Sniper Kitteh

Guns and pussy, guns and pussy…is that all you think about?

245 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 4, 2014 9:32:30am

re: #236 Backwoods_Sleuth

heh…

I done forgot, he even had the gall to return to Haiti in after years of exile. Following all the other disasters that had befallen that country, his arrival was only a bit of an aftershock…

246 ausador  Oct 4, 2014 9:33:31am

That is why he applied for a visa months ago, and why he waited so long to seek treatment here, also why he accepted a prescription from hospital and went back home on the first visit? Idiots…

247 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)  Oct 4, 2014 9:33:38am

re: #243 Backwoods_Sleuth

um, yeah…

Ebola: Texas official says there is a lot of “misinformation and erroneous fear” surrounding people in quarantine ]

“Misinformation and erroneous fear” is stock in trade for a lot of modern journalists and pundits…

248 Dark_Falcon  Oct 4, 2014 9:34:47am

re: #246 ausador

That is why he applied for a visa months ago, and why he waited so long to seek treatments here, also why he accepted a prescription from hospital and went back home on the first visit? Idiots…

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Forget it Jake, its Chinatown.

249 Targetpractice  Oct 4, 2014 9:35:28am

re: #247 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

“Misinformation and erroneous fear” is stock in trade for a lot of modern journalists and pundits…

See als: CNN coming out within minutes of the first CDC press conference ending to tell people to look out for flu-like symptoms as a sign of Ebola infection.

250 Bear  Oct 4, 2014 9:36:03am

re: #247 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

Don’t think that is anything new.

251 Ryan King  Oct 4, 2014 9:36:29am

re: #240 Kid A

I know a lot of dumbass lawyers.

I have very wealthy clients that leave me wondering how they succeeded in business. I think the prioritization is:

1. Drive, ideas, vision
2. Blink stinking luck
3. Smarts
4. PROFIT!

252 Dark_Falcon  Oct 4, 2014 9:39:44am

re: #247 Wendell Zurkowitz (slave to the waffle light)

“Misinformation and erroneous fear” is stock in trade for a lot of modern journalists and pundits…

Shortened for accuracy. It’s always been like this and newspapers 100 years ago reacted to epidemics with fearmongering and hyperbole as well.

Most US media outlets exist to make money, and their coverage goes where profit can be made.

253 Kid A  Oct 4, 2014 9:39:59am

re: #248 Dark_Falcon

Forget it Jake, its Chinatown.

She’s my sister, she’s my daughter.

254 Kid A  Oct 4, 2014 9:41:15am

re: #252 Dark_Falcon

Shortened for accuracy. It’s always been like this and newspapers 100 years ago reacted to epidemics with fearmongering and hyperbole as well.

Most All US media outlets exist to make money, and their coverage goes where profit can be made.

255 Romantic Heretic  Oct 4, 2014 9:41:27am

re: #223 Ryan King

Wingnuts cry about government largesse and try to cut budgets, then cry about government failures when the budgets are cut.

This is why Bircherism, libertarianism, and capitalism make convenient bedfellows.

They’ll never say so out loud but they want the government to fail. As Paul Krugman sarcastically put it, “If government did anything good then people wouldn’t understand that government is bad.”

Also, I believe many of them, the theocrats and authoritarian chief among them, want the government to collapse so they can institute the dictatorship they think America should be. So that lesser beings and the unpatriotic should suffer as they deserve.

256 sattv4u2  Oct 4, 2014 9:41:53am

Whats that I hear!?!?!

Why yes, it’s my pillows, tantalizing with their ethereal allure

257 sattv4u2  Oct 4, 2014 9:42:26am

laterz taterz

258 Romantic Heretic  Oct 4, 2014 9:43:07am

re: #196 Backwoods_Sleuth

Crap, I just learned that my sister who is a year younger than me had a heart attack yesterday.
Fortunately, she is doing OK and the doctors are deciding if surgery is necessary.

Strength and positive vibes heading your way.

259 Ryan King  Oct 4, 2014 9:44:03am

re: #240 Kid A

I know a lot of dumbass lawyers.

Oh boy: I had a client for a large project, a real estate lawyer who’s father is a mover/shaker in NY. He was famous for closing a giant deal.

He was already very difficult to deal with. Had no problem cc’ing his own lawyer any time there seemed to be some issue or question as an implied threat.

We moved through the project and came to requesting a large deposit for a lot of equipment, which set him off. After a few days of terse emails, he finally let slip that he only just read our contract after we requested the large deposit for the next phase.

He wired the $ the next day.. then returned to his traditional dickishness.

A lawyer that doesn’t read contracts… gotta LOL.

260 Targetpractice  Oct 4, 2014 9:44:21am

re: #256 sattv4u2

Whats that I hear!?!?!

Why yes, it’s my pillows, tantalizing with their ethereal allure

Do not be tempted by its siren call!
/

261 Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 4, 2014 9:45:03am
262 Varek Raith  Oct 4, 2014 9:47:41am

Ebola ruled out for patient in Washington, D.C., who had symptoms that could be associated with the virus, health officials say.

Per CNN banner.

263 Varek Raith  Oct 4, 2014 9:48:02am

Sorry CNN, no freakout in my area for u!

264 Ryan King  Oct 4, 2014 9:48:24am

re: #255 Romantic Heretic

They’ll never say so out loud but they want the government to fail. As Paul Krugman sarcastically put it, “If government did anything good then people wouldn’t understand that government is bad.”

Also, I believe many of them, the theocrats and authoritarian chief among them, want the government to collapse so they can institute the dictatorship they think America should be. So that lesser beings and the unpatriotic should suffer as they deserve.

They want the government to be weaker so they won’t be regulated and can have their own ‘security.’ They being the elite Randian capitalists.

Yes, I would agree except for total collapse. Government is in their way, weak government can be controlled by them. So spending marketing $ to talk trash about and weaken confidence in the government is an advertising expense.

265 Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 4, 2014 9:50:04am

re: #262 Varek Raith

Ebola ruled out for patient in Washington, D.C., who had symptoms that could be associated with the virus, health officials say.

Per CNN banner.

I’ll wait for CNN’s ebola simulator…

266 Ryan King  Oct 4, 2014 9:51:24am

I actually have a Brown MandM clause in my contract, though it has nothing to do with Brown MnM’s per se.

Nobody has ever mentioned it. Amazing.

267 ObserverArt  Oct 4, 2014 9:51:26am

Alright, coming in from the sidelines to make a quick comment or two.

For the love of all that is good, would someone or something work to shut little Chucky Cheesy Johnson the hell up.

It will be for everyone’s health, especially his own. He is just way too much to take. What an attention monger.

268 Dark_Falcon  Oct 4, 2014 9:51:47am

re: #264 Ryan King

And who do you think the “elite Randian capitalists” are, pray tell? Please cite examples other than Charles and David Koch. They get cited in that way too often and David at least gives too much to charity to be considered an Objectivist.

269 A Mom Anon  Oct 4, 2014 9:54:19am

re: #217 Targetpractice

The new thing now is “comp time” instead of overtime. The last two jobs The Husband has had have pulled this shit. Anything over 40 hours and you get to take the rest of the day/week off. And then the bosses bitch when no one is there to do what needs done.

50K is not a lot of money to pay a skilled laborer like my husband. By the time we pay a stupid amount for health insurance (300 dollars per paycheck, 600 a month- and this isn’t great insurance by a long shot) and taxes come out, he’s making 600 dollars and some change a week. I’m not sure how a family is supposed to make it on that. I can’t imagine where we’d be if either of us had college loans to pay off too. We’re not living a big life either, we’re constantly cutting back to make ends meet. Right now I’m selling off stuff on a garage sale site so I can afford the dentist. Yay American Dream.

270 Targetpractice  Oct 4, 2014 9:54:30am

re: #261 Backwoods_Sleuth

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“Four legs good, two legs better!”

271 Ryan King  Oct 4, 2014 9:55:44am

re: #268 Dark_Falcon

You mean besides Scaife, Mellon, and Adelson, and these persons?

272 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Oct 4, 2014 9:56:59am

re: #268 Dark_Falcon

And who do you think the “elite Randian capitalists” are, pray tell? Please cite examples other than Charles and David Koch. They get cited in that way too often and David at least gives too much to charity to be considered an Objectivist.

Peter Thiel. Pierre Omydar (sp?). Pretty much any of the Silicon Valley “entrepreneurs.”

273 Ryan King  Oct 4, 2014 9:58:45am

A lot of Silli Valley execs give money to the right and the left.

274 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Oct 4, 2014 10:00:32am

re: #273 Ryan King

A lot of Silli Valley execs give money to the right and the left.

This is true. But I think it’s Thiel who wants to build a libertarian floating island, right?

275 Dark_Falcon  Oct 4, 2014 10:01:04am

re: #273 Ryan King

A lot of Silli Valley execs give money to the right and the left.

Because they want to ensure they have influence regardless of which party is in power. Someone doing that is more interested in gains for his business than political ideology.

276 A Mom Anon  Oct 4, 2014 10:02:37am

re: #268 Dark_Falcon

Giving to charity is a bullshit cover move to legitimize damages. It doesn’t erase the amount of polluting they do to the environment. It doesn’t erase the damage they’ve done to our political process with their front groups and bullshit “think tanks”. it doesn’t erase what they’ve done to destroy labor unions, or teachers unions, public schools, the list is long. Maybe instead of investing all this money in undoing the best programs we have they could fund them, or take that money and pay workers more, donate to school districts in need(NOT private schools), invest in helping fix the infrastructure that helped make them rich. There’s a long list of things they could do, if they actually gave a rat’s butt about the American people.

You want other names? Here’s some; Sheldon Adelson, David Purdue (lying his ass off to be GA’s next governor), the people running all those mining companies that run unsafe operations, the people in charge of all the companies parking their money overseas instead of paying their fair share of taxes. The Koch brothers aren’t some poor downtrodden and unfairly treated gentlemen, they deserve every derisive comment and news article written about them. Every. Stinking. Word.

277 ObserverArt  Oct 4, 2014 10:05:05am

re: #275 Dark_Falcon

Because they want to ensure they have influence regardless of which party is in power. Someone doing that is more interested in gains for his business than political ideology.

And sometimes it is just smarter to can political ideology and be flat out practical.

278 wrenchwench  Oct 4, 2014 10:05:26am

re: #275 Dark_Falcon

Because they want to ensure they have influence regardless of which party is in power. Someone doing that is more interested in gains for his business than political ideology.

Interest in gains for one’s business IS a political ideology. To be specific, it could be called ‘Elite Randian Capitalism’.

279 Ryan King  Oct 4, 2014 10:05:35am

re: #274 Rev_Arthur_Belling

Yes, that rings the Memory Bell. Another Silli Valley mover and shaker did buy an island, and the honeymoon appears to be over.

Not exactly Galt’s Island, but here we have a clear example of one man holding most of the power on an island. And somehow this is supposed to be for the good of all?

280 A Mom Anon  Oct 4, 2014 10:07:08am

re: #275 Dark_Falcon

There’s also a point in time where “growing your business” ends up being more like shitting on workers so you can squirrel away more money than you’d ever need in 10 lifetimes and not reinvest in jack squat to make your business better by treating your workers like they matter. Bigger is not always better, hell, it’s not even always more profitable in the long term. This short sighted and selfish line of thinking is KILLING the middle class who are the biggest drivers of our consumer based economy.

281 Ryan King  Oct 4, 2014 10:07:28am

re: #276 A Mom Anon

Giving to charity may have other causes: ego, pity, or their own sense of guilt. Or they just want to help people. Giving to charity does not in and of itself break some Objectivist commandment and prove you’re not an Ayn Rand lover.

282 Ryan King  Oct 4, 2014 10:08:53am

re: #277 ObserverArt

And sometimes it is just smarter to can political ideology and be flat out practical.

Oh shit, you just sunk my Libertarian Battleship!

283 Feline Fearless Leader  Oct 4, 2014 10:09:13am

re: #222 Targetpractice

I think it’s becoming obvious to more and more people that much of the short-term planning of the past 30+ years is coming back to bite a whole lot of people in the ass. All those years of “putting off til tomorrow” when it came to things like covering pensions and education are now coming back to haunt those who thought the tax cuts passed instead would lead to growth that would cover the cuts.

Or, that was just the short-term selling point used for starting to rollback the New Deal, Square Deal, and all the other progressive things that ruined things for America since 1900.

284 Dark_Falcon  Oct 4, 2014 10:11:41am

re: #282 Ryan King

Oh shit, you just sunk my Libertarian Battleship!

And your Socialist Aircraft Carrier as well. ;)

285 ObserverArt  Oct 4, 2014 10:12:25am

re: #277 ObserverArt

And sometimes it is just smarter to can political ideology and be flat out practical.

Hey Dark_Falcon, I see you updinged this comment. Do you think the Republican party is ever going to get to the point to can the political ideology and try to be practical?

It would actually help them politically. Go figure.

But they seem too damn dense to figure out it is their wacky ideology that hurts them.

286 Dark_Falcon  Oct 4, 2014 10:16:50am

re: #280 A Mom Anon

That’s not a “point in time”, that’s the result of bad decisions sometimes made by some business owners. Seeking to grow a business is not a dishonorable motive, nor is it always opposed by employees. Steelworkers and pipe-fitters have welcomed the domestic expansion of the oil industry, knowing it means more work for them, while the Teamsters welcome expansions of Koch Transportation, since the company’s truck drivers are members of that union.

287 Ryan King  Oct 4, 2014 10:17:31am

re: #284 Dark_Falcon

And your Socialist Aircraft Carrier as well. ;)

What’s impractical about socialism? Libertarianism and socialism are not really comparable.

288 Ryan King  Oct 4, 2014 10:18:34am

Nobody considers growing or expanding a business a dishonorable motive.

289 Dark_Falcon  Oct 4, 2014 10:19:25am

re: #285 ObserverArt

Neither major party can afford to “can political ideology”, because the political base of both parties is now ideological. The party that tried to do so would simply collapse. Ideology is the foundation of post-1960’s partisanship.

290 Rev_Arthur_Belling  Oct 4, 2014 10:20:21am

re: #286 Dark_Falcon

That’s not a “point in time”, that’s the result of bad decisions sometimes made by some business owners. Seeking to grow a business is not a dishonorable motive, nor is it always opposed by employees. Steelworkers and pipe-fitters have welcomed the domestic expansion of the oil industry, knowing it means more work for them, while the Teamsters welcome expansions of Koch Transportation, since the company’s truck drivers are members of that union.

Union leadership hasn’t always been “progressive.” Big surprise.

292 Ryan King  Oct 4, 2014 10:24:25am

Exclusive: Ted Nugent notes how blacks continue to vote for party that destroyed them
Read more at wnd.com

Oh Ted… blacks are ‘destroyed.’

Totally Not Racist. Not at all. You’re racist for even thinking it’s racist because it’s not racist so therefore you’re racist.

293 Dark_Falcon  Oct 4, 2014 10:25:58am

re: #290 Rev_Arthur_Belling

Union leadership hasn’t always been “progressive.” Big surprise.

I never argued it was. The Teamsters have always had a pragmatic frame of mind.

294 Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 4, 2014 10:30:09am

Making individual-size pork pies and Cornish pastys (and variations thereof) today.
Most will end up in the freezer for quick meals.
The kitchen will be a mess by evening…

295 Charles Johnson  Oct 4, 2014 10:31:58am

re: #221 Dark_Falcon

Michael Luciano can bray like an ass with the best of them. Believing that Satan is real does not make someone a “religious fanatic”. Nor does the fact that James Madison held different views on matters such as chaplains in the military from Antonin Scalia mean that Mr. Justice Scalia would “hate” President Madison. Justice Scalia is entirely capable of disagreeing with someone without hating them.

Luciano’s piece is overwrought and actively hostile from the get-go. It will not convince anyone who is not already a committed liberal.

I’m not a fan of Luciano, but the fact is that Scalia’s statements were absolutely horrible. He’s explicitly denying the intent of the founders to create a wall of separation between church and state, and I have no idea why you’d defend something like that.

And yes, I do find it very troubling that a Supreme Court justice believes in a literal Satan. This kind of fanaticism has no place in the nation’s highest court, but there it is. Scalia is a prototype right wing nutjob, in a position of great power, and he’s doing a lot of damage to the country.

296 Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 4, 2014 10:32:02am
297 Ryan King  Oct 4, 2014 10:33:03am

re: #288 Ryan King

Nobody considers growing or expanding a business a dishonorable motive.

I just expanded my business. A lot. And I pay my employees well and put a lot of effort into training them and investing them in the business.

Silli Valley has it’s warts, but many companies did this in it’s rise and the whole of Silli Valley has done well. Coincidence?

298 ObserverArt  Oct 4, 2014 10:35:35am

re: #295 Charles Johnson

I’m not a fan of Luciano, but the fact is that Scalia’s statements were absolutely horrible. He’s explicitly denying the intent of the founders to create a wall of separation between church and state, and I have no idea why you’d defend something like that.

And yes, I do find it very troubling that a Supreme Court justice believes in a literal Satan. This kind of fanaticism has no place in the nation’s highest court, but there it is. Scalia is a prototype right wing nutjob, in a position of great power, and he’s doing a lot of damage to the country.

Amen!!!

299 A Mom Anon  Oct 4, 2014 10:36:46am

re: #286 Dark_Falcon

I never said it was a bad thing. What’s bad is this idea that there’s such a thing as unlimited expansion at any cost- that making more and more money is the ONLY goal of business. That’s the kind of thinking that brought us an economic crash not so long ago. Remember the thinking that houses and real estate in general would only go up in value? Didn’t turn out so well did it? Same goes for businesses. There’s such a thing as slow, steady and sustainable growth over time. I have no issue with that at all. What I have a problem with is this illusion that the heads of big businesses are always right and their insatiable need to buy off government at all levels so they can skirt by regulations and rules that benefit EVERYONE. Companies can become too large and too powerful, and yes, I believe that is wrong and harmful.

My husband just lost a friend in a chemical plant explosion. Because the company bypassed rules and his boss insisted he check a valve that was not his to check (there are protocol to follow in these situations- for good reason). It exploded in his face, blinding him and burning his lungs and severely burning another worker over 40 percent of his body. The resulting scabbing of his lungs as he healed deprived his brain of oxygen and he died a week ago. Leaving a family behind. All because of the need to cut corners to save a few bucks on overtime pay. That is a corporate mindset that is toxic and poisons the entire business’ atmosphere. The only way to corral that is to have enforceable rules, and maybe some CEOs need to be held responsible and spend some time at Club Fed to drive that point home.

300 Dark_Falcon  Oct 4, 2014 10:37:05am

re: #295 Charles Johnson

And yes, I do find it very troubling that a Supreme Court justice believes in a literal Satan. This kind of fanaticism has no place in the nation’s highest court, but there it is. Scalia is a prototype right wing nutjob, in a position of great power, and he’s doing a lot of damage to the country.

If believing Satan exists is the mark of a fanatic, then you must mark down Pope Francis I as a fanatic, and myself as well.

I respect you, Charles, but you are wrong on this one.

301 Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 4, 2014 10:39:37am

MrBWS just walked in from his weekly trip to the next county and handed me a box of Boy Scout popcorn ($15!!!!).
Me: “it’s nowhere near as good as Girl Scout cookies.”
Him: “yeah, but equal time ya know.”

302 Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 4, 2014 10:42:22am

re: #300 Dark_Falcon

If believing Satan exists is the mark of a fanatic, then you must mark down Pope Francis I as a fanatic, and myself as well.

I respect you, Charles, but you are wrong on this one.

Satan is not a literal entity…he’s a boogieman for people who need to fix blame for shit that happens.
That is MY belief and you take great liberties in saying that I (and Charles) am wrong on this.

303 wrenchwench  Oct 4, 2014 10:42:27am

re: #300 Dark_Falcon

If believing Satan exists is the mark of a fanatic, then you must mark down Pope Francis I as a fanatic, and myself as well.

I respect you, Charles, but you are wrong on this one.

Popes are always fanatics.

304 Dark_Falcon  Oct 4, 2014 10:42:38am

re: #301 Backwoods_Sleuth

MrBWS just walked in from his weekly trip to the next county and handed me a box of Boy Scout popcorn ($15!!!!).
Me: “it’s nowhere near as good as Girl Scout cookies.”
Him: “yeah, but equal time ya know.”

Boy Scout popcorn is also perfect for eating when Sarah Palin finally says something about Ebola. The stupidity will be profound and prolonged,

305 Charles Johnson  Oct 4, 2014 10:48:02am

re: #303 wrenchwench

Popes are always fanatics.

It’s the definition of the job.

306 Charles Johnson  Oct 4, 2014 10:49:17am

re: #300 Dark_Falcon

If believing Satan exists is the mark of a fanatic, then you must mark down Pope Francis I as a fanatic, and myself as well.

I respect you, Charles, but you are wrong on this one.

Yes, I consider it fanaticism to believe there’s a supernatural demon that tries to harm human beings. Go figure.

307 ObserverArt  Oct 4, 2014 10:50:07am

re: #300 Dark_Falcon

If believing Satan exists is the mark of a fanatic, then you must mark down Pope Francis I as a fanatic, and myself as well.

I respect you, Charles, but you are wrong on this one.

Wrong is not the correct word as it is based on facts.

Faith is not fact. What facts support the idea of Satan? If God is belief over fact so too is Satan.

And other religious beliefs do not have a Satan. Are they wrong too?

And yes, by pure definition the Pope is a fanatic.

Charles is dealing with facts and that is why our forefathers were smart to keep religion out of government. Just the same way that Jesus dude did when he talked about what was Caeser’s and what was Gods.

308 Dr. Matt  Oct 4, 2014 10:58:27am

re: #300 Dark_Falcon

If believing Satan exists is the mark of a fanatic, then you must mark down Pope Francis I as a fanatic, and myself as well.

I respect you, Charles, but you are wrong on this one.

Claiming someone is wrong because they don’t share your faith/beliefs is approaching fanatical.

309 Dark_Falcon  Oct 4, 2014 11:01:46am

re: #308 Dr. Matt

Claiming someone is wrong because they don’t share your faith/beliefs is approaching fanatical.

That’s not what I was saying: I was saying that it is wrong to label the belief that Satan exists as “fanaticism”.

310 Backwoods_Sleuth  Oct 4, 2014 11:10:45am

Interesting that when bad things happen to people that extremist religious people disagree with, it’s “God’s wrath”.
When it happens to their side, it’s Satan’s fault…

311 sagehen  Oct 4, 2014 11:20:15am

re: #288 Ryan King

Nobody considers growing or expanding a business a dishonorable motive.

Hollowing out that business in pursuit of short-term benefit to management/stockholders; leaving a fragile structure that will collapse but ME&MINE will have left by then and not get caught in it…

That’s the problem with the incentive structure of Randian economics.

312 urbanmeemaw  Oct 4, 2014 11:35:10am

re: #196 Backwoods_Sleuth

Crap, I just learned that my sister who is a year younger than me had a heart attack yesterday.
Fortunately, she is doing OK and the doctors are deciding if surgery is necessary.

{{{BackwoodSleuth}}} You’ve sure had your share of stuff to deal with here lately.

313 William Barnett-Lewis  Oct 4, 2014 12:20:54pm

re: #212 Backwoods_Sleuth

CCJ is an attention whore with delusions of grandeur.adequecy.

FTFY.


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